Jan 16, 2024 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

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THE MEETING OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTY WEBSITE, ONCE YOU FIND THE AGENDA CLICK ON THE AGENDA ITEM TO SUPPORT THE MATERIALS, PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. SHOULD THE PRESENTER HAVE EXHIBITS OR PHOTOGRAPHS PLEASE PROVIDE MATERIALS FOR THE CLERK OF COURT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

FROM PASTOR FROM COLONIAL CHURCH. GOOD MORNING.

>> I AM ACTUALLY NOT MATT, SORRY FOR THE DISAPPOINTMENT.

HE IS SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER THAN I AM. HE IS NOT WELL TODAY.

PRIVILEGED AND HONORED TO BE HERE. LORD YOU PROMISE IN YOUR WORD IN 6511 THE WILL CROWN THE YEAR WITH YOUR GOODNESS AND YOUR PATH TO DRIP WITH ABUNDANCE SO I ASK FOR COUNTY AND COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU WOULD CROWN THE WITH YOUR GOODNESS THIS YEAR AN AMAZING YEAR OF AMAZING LEADERSHIP AND PRAY THAT YOU KEEP LEADERSHIP HEALTHY AND STRONG. MAY WISDOM COME FROM HEAVEN TO THIS ROOM AND PRAY FOR EVERY LEADER FOR OUR COUNTY. I ASK THAT YOU GIVE STRENGTH AND THE BACKBONE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND I PRAY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU BLESS THEM KEEP THEM HEALTHY AND STRONG AND FIT AND THEIR FAMILIES. HELP THEM CARRY THE BURDEN OF LEADING OUR COUNTY. I PRAY THIS IN THE NAME OF

JESUS CHRIST AMEN. >> NOW TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE LIEUTENANT COLONEL AIR FORCE. GOOD MORNING.

>> EVERYONE FACE THE FLAG AND FOLLOW ME .

[Proclamation Recognizing 100 Years of the St. Augustine Art Association]

PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD. >> ARE COMMISSIONED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA WHEREAS SAINT AUGUSTINE ART ASSOCIATION WAS FOUNDED JANUARY 18TH, 1924 AND IS THE 13TH OLDEST CONTINUALLY OPERATING ART ASSOCIATION IN THE UNITED STATES AND WHEREAS THE SAINT AUGUSTINE ART ASSOCIATION OUTREACH PROGRAM SERVES MANY INCLUDING THE BLIND, COMMUNITY BUSINESSES, ELDER GROUPS, LOCAL PUBLIC % SCHOOL STUDENTS AND OTHERS BY SHARING USER-FRIENDLY GALLERY IN THE HEART OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND WHEREAS THE ST. AUGUSTINE ART ASSOCIATION IS OPENED YEAR ROUND AND IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC WELCOMING 10,000 VISITORS ANNUALLY WHILE PRESERVING OUR RICH ARTISTIC HERITAGE AND FOSTERING A CREATIVE AND ACCESSIBLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ARTISTS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND SKILL LEVELS. AND WHEREAS THE ST. AUGUSTINE ART ASSOCIATION PLAYS A ROLE IN SUPPORTING ARTISTIC EXCELLENCE THROUGH EXHIBITIONS, ART SALES, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AND OUTREACH AND HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE EPICENTER OF THE LOCAL ART COMMUNITY. BE IT PROCLAIMED THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS

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COUNTY, JANUARY 16TH, 2024. >> THANK YOU. ART AT COLOR FIGURATIVELY AND LITERALLY TO OUR LIVES AND WE BENEFIT FROM SO MANY WAYS. TOO MANY TO NAME SO IT IS MY PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING 100 YEARS OF ART IN ST. AUGUSTINE. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> WE ARE SO THRILLED TO RECEIVE THIS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE COUNTY AND ST. AUGUSTINE AND ALL ARTISTS AND VOLUNTEERS AND BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY. WE ARE SO PROUD AND WE HOPE EVERYONE WILL STOP BY AT SOME POINT THIS YEAR AS WE CELEBRATE 100 YEARS. THANK YOU.

[Proclamation Recognizing Patti Greenough Day]

INTO THE RECORD? >> PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHNS COUNTY , FLORIDA WHERE PATTI GREENOUGH BECAME CEO OF EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE IN 1990 AND IN 33 YEARS EXPANDED EPIC FROM A SINGLE FOCUS ORGANIZATION WITH ONE CAMPUS, 14 STAFF AND A $300,000 BUDGET TO A MULTIFACETED BEHAVIOR HEALTHCARE SERVICE DELIVERY SYSTEM WITH SIX CAMPUSES IN MULTIPLE COUNTIES, 130 STAFF AND A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUDGET. WHEREAS SHE SUCCESSFULLY LED THE EFFORT TO BRING A 16 BED INPATIENT DETOX AND RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT CENTER TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS WELL AS OTHER CRITICAL SUBSTANCE USE AND MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AND WHEREAS HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF VARIOUS COMMUNITY NEEDS, PATTI GREENOUGH WAS AN INITIAL MEMBER OF COMMUNITY BOARDS AND WORKGROUPS THAT LED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF CRITICAL NEW ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE PATH PREVENTION COALITION, BETTY GRIFFIN HAS, JUVENILE AND ADULT DRUG COURTS, WEST AUGUSTINE WEED AND SEED STRATEGY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AND HOMELESS COALITION. WHEREAS PATTI GREENOUGH HAS HELD STATEWIDE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS SUCH AS THE CHAIR OF THE FLORIDA BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION, PRESIDENT OF THE AND DRUG ABUSE ASSOCIATION AND MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR BIG BROTHERS BIG SISTERS ASSOCIATION OF FLORIDA.

AND WHEREAS PATTI GREENOUGH HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR LEADERSHIP THROUGH PRESTIGIOUS AWARDS INCLUDING THE LEADER OF THE YEAR FROM THE FLORIDA ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE ASSOCIATION, FLORIDA DISTINGUISHED SERVICE MEDAL FROM THE ADJUNCT GENERAL OF THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD, BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE CHAMPION FROM BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE EXECUTIVE TO NAME A FEW. BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY , FLORIDA THAT JANUARY 16, 2024 BE COMMEMORATED AS PATTI GREENOUGH DAY HONORING AND RECOGNIZING LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMUNITY AS SHE RETIRES FROM EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE, LEAVING AN IMPACT ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS. PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA JANUARY 16TH, 2024.

CONTRIBUTION TO THIS COMMUNITY IS EXTENSIVE AND WE HOPE WE GOT IT ALL RIGHT AND IN THERE. IT IS AMAZING WHAT YOU HAVE

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONERS . FOR ADDING TO THE JOY OF MY RETIREMENT. WITH YOUR AMAZING RECLAMATION .

THROUGHOUT MY TENURE AT EPIC AS CEO IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK WITH AND LEARN FROM SUCH COMMITTED AND ENTHUSIASTIC STAFF . MANY OF WHICH ARE HERE TODAY AND PROFESSIONALS AND FRIENDS AROUND THE COMMUNITY. I AM APPRECIATIVE BEYOND MEASURE TO THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION HELPING INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS THE COUNTY COMMISSION. AS WELL AS OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIALS SUCH AS THE SHERIFF THAT'S HERE TODAY.

FOR ENRICHING MY EFFORTS IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'M GRATEFUL FOR CONTINUED AND WISE COUNCIL AND SUPPORT OF LEADERSHIP WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS , MANY ARE HERE TODAY. FINALLY, I AM ETERNALLY GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL FOR MY FAMILY FOR THEIR LOVE AND SUPPORT WHO ARE ALSO HERE TODAY. IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING AND PRIVILEGE AND TO BE PART OF THIS INCREDIBLE TRANSFORMATION OVER THE YEARS. WE HAVE DONE SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS TREMENDOUS HONOR AND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. THANK YOU.

[Acceptance of Proclamations]

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND,

PLEASE VOTE. PROCLAMATION . >> SORRY.

[Public Safety Update]

>> PROCLAMATION IS ACCEPTED. THAT BRINGS US INTO THE PUBLIC

SAFETY UPDATE. DIRECTOR. >> MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU. AS WE MOVE INTO THIS BRAND-NEW YEAR OF 2024 WE CONTINUE TO SEE OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND I BELIEVE WE ARE UP TO THREE FATALITIES ALREADY FOR THIS YEAR INSIDE OF THE COUNTY. IT WAS AN INITIATIVE OF THE SHERIFF TO HAVE A FULL-TIME AGGRESSIVE TRAFFIC UNIT AND DUI UNIT. I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF STATS FROM LAST YEAR IN 2023. FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW OVERALL CRASH DATA, BELIEVE IT OR NOT HAS DROPPED EVEN THOUGH TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO GROW. IT IS THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT DEPUTIES PUT INTO REDUCING THAT. WE ARE

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QUESTIONS. >> I WAS WONDERING, WHERE WERE

THE THREE FATALITIES? >> I KNOW WE HAD A COUPLE IN THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY. I DON'T REMEMBER, THE LATEST WAS AT SILVERLEAF IN THAT AREA. I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY THE

LOCATIONS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE CHIEF, GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. COUPLE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT REAL QUICK, THE FIRST IS THANKS TO THE SUPPORT OF THIS COMMISSION AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION WE PUT FORWARD NEW FIRETRUCKS INTO SERVICE. ENGINE 14 IN THE BOTTOM LEFT ON THE WEST AUGUSTINE KING STREET AREA.

ENGINE 15 AT THE TOP RIGHT, PINE ISLAND AND COULD YOU ONE, THE NEW TRUCK ON THE RIGHT IN THAT PICTURE FROM SOUTH PONTEVEDRA. SQUAD FOUR THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER COUNTY ROAD 208 AND INTERSTATE 95. THESE ARE APPARATUS TO REPLACE THE AGING FLEET. I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AND THANK CHIEF WILSON FOR HIS COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION. IT WAS A PRETTY BIG ENDEAVOR TO GET THE TRUCK SPELT AND STOCKED WITH EQUIPMENT AND GET THEM IN SERVICE. SECONDLY I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING COMING LATER THIS WEEK CALLED OPERATION SOUND THE ALARM, A SMOKE DETECTOR INSTALLATION EVENT FROM THE RED CROSS IN CONJUNCTION WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE WITH A GOAL TO MAKE SURE ALL HOMES HAVE SMOKE DETECTORS INSTALLED. THIS THURSDAY 9:00 UNTIL NOON THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD KICKING OFF IS THE WEST AUGUSTINE AREA WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY SOLOMON AND CALHOUN. THE RED CROSS, AND THE CITY WILL ALL BE WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD PASSING OUT SMOKE DETECTORS AND HELPING INSTALL. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PREREGISTER FOR THAT TO GET A SMOKE DETECTOR CONTACT THE RED CROSS AT 904-797-3851 AND INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AT THIS TIME I WOULD

[Clerk of Court's Report]

>> CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW TRUCKS.

>> KNOW WE HAVE OUR CLERK OF COURT.

>> MANAGER, COMMISSIONERS GOOD MORNING. I AM JOINED BY OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. WE ARE HERE TO BRING SUNSHINE ON A OTHERWISE GLOOMY DAY. AS OUR COMPTROLLER THROUGH SAFE YET AGGRESSIVE MONEY MANAGEMENT GENERATED OVER $20 MILLION IN EARNED INTEREST IN CALENDAR YEAR 2023. THIS IS A BIG DEAL, SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BRING THEM UP AND HIGHLIGHT AND BRAG ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS.

GENERATING DOLLARS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GENERATED FOR THE COUNTY. THERE ARE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, THEY HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED. THEY HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO VARIOUS FUNDS , BUT IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND, I HAVE A CHECK I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL ON THE FLOOR. IF WE CAN HAVE Y'ALL COME DOWN PLEASE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

I'M NOT USUALLY ONE FOR CROPS.

[Legislative Affairs Update]

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>> GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. LEGISLATIVE UPDATE FOR JANUARY. THIS WILL BE PRETTY QUICK JUST HITTING SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR THE FIRST MONTH OF SESSION. AS WE GO TO THE FIRST PAGE, A NUMBER OF BILLS TO WATCH. FIRST LOOKING AT HOUSE BILL ONE , THE SPEAKER'S PRIORITY ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR MINORS. WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVE GARRISON'S OFFICE, HE IS A MAJOR SUPPORTER. WE EXPECT THE BILL TO ADVANCE FORWARD IN THE LEGISLATURE. 1648 THE FUNDING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT , THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROPOSAL IN THAT A NUMBER OF THE SEMINAL GAMING COMPACT FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS. IT WILL EXPAND TRAILS, GREENWAY OPPORTUNITIES, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND WATER QUALITY PROJECTS BY INITIATING SEVERAL GRANT PROGRAMS. WE HOPE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS TO WORK ON THIS BILL TO HELP FIND WAYS TO BENEFIT ST.

JOHNS COUNTY , TO BEST POSITION ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE BILL WILL PROVIDE. WE ARE LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION LEGISLATION.

I HAVE NOTICED THREE OR FOUR BILLS ADDRESSING THE STATE WORK PROGRAM AND LOOKING AT HOW THE ALLOCATION RESOURCES WILL GO TO RHODES. WE WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE UP TO DATE ON ANY CHANGES THAT HAPPEN THROUGH D.O.T. FINALLY ONE OF THE LARGEST INITIATIVES OF THE LEGISLATURE 'S MENTAL HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE. THERE ARE FOUR OR FIVE BILLS RUNNING TOGETHER. MANY MAY CONSOLIDATE INTO A LARGER PACKAGE. WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS THAT THESE INITIATIVES CONTAIN MANY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE LICENSURE ABILITY ACROSS STATE LINES BRINGING ENHANCING MENTAL HEALTH WORKFORCE , THAT IS ONE COMPONENT IN SOME OF THESE BILLS. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THE POTENTIAL LEGISLATIVE VEHICLES THAT WILL BE HAPPENING. AS WE GO BACK TO TALLAHASSEE ON THE 24TH AND 25TH WE WILL BE LOOKING AT BILLS WHERE WE CAN ATTACH PRIORITIES AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE PRESUMPTIVE DISABILITY % EXPANSION FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, THE REGIONAL ESTUARY TASK FORCE AND THE WORLD DESIGNATION FOR HASTINGS. THE LAST PART I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY WHICH IS SENATE BILL 536 AND 1061. THE COMMUNITY-BASED CHILD WELFARE AGENCY BILL. THIS BILL ELIMINATES OR REDUCES CRITICAL FLEXIBILITY FOR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN RESOURCES TO PROVIDE MORE THAN 35% OF ALL DIRECT WELFARE SERVICES IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. IT JEOPARDIZES SERVICE PROVIDED THROUGH EXISTING CONTRACTS AND PLACES OVER 50% OR 50 STAFF AT RISK OF UNEMPLOYMENT. THE BILL WILL PROVIDE A FUNDING MODEL THAT HAS NOT BEEN FULLY VETTED BY COMMUNITY-BASED CARE AGENCIES WITH A POTENTIAL NEGATIVE FISCAL IMPACT TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS IS REQUESTING IF THE BOARD FINDS APPROPRIATE DIRECTION TO DRAFT A POLICY STATEMENT IN OPPOSITION OF SENATE BILL 536 AND HOUSE BILL 1061. I BELIEVE THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IS HERE TODAY AND AVAILABLE FOR SPECIFIC POLICY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS BILL.

>> THANK YOU, WOULD YOU MIND EXPANDING ON SOME OF THIS?

>> DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. SENATE BILL 536 FILED BY SENATOR GARCIA OUT OF THE ORLANDO AREA.

SEVERAL POINTS TO THE BILL. SOME OF THEM ARE VALID AND THESE TWO IN PARTICULAR WOULD HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON US. FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING IN-HOUSE CASE MANAGEMENT. THIS BILL AIMS TO SAY THAT NO MORE THAN 35% CAN

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AND ADDITIONALLY THIS SECOND PIECE OF THIS THAT IS CONCERNING AS THEY ARE PROPOSING A NEW FUNDING MODEL WHICH WE HAVE NOT SEEN YET. THEY PROVIDED A DRAFT LAST SUMMER , THE DRAFT HAD A NEGATIVE , THE DRAFT HAD A $-2 MILLION FISCAL IMPACT WHICH IS AROUND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY GIVE US IN 2021, TO ALLOW US TO COME UP TO WHERE WE NEED IT TO BE IN LINE WITH OTHERS ACROSS THE STATE. SO I THINK THE CONCERN IS NOT HAVE SEEN THIS FUNDING MODEL PROPOSAL. IT IS IN A PROPOSED LEGISLATION.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HAVE

QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? >> I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS , I HAVE HEARD ENOUGH AND I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH. KNOWING THE HISTORY OF THE BOARD I KNOW HENRY DEAN ASKED US TO OPPOSE A BILL A COUPLE YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW ANYWAY. ANYTIME TALLAHASSEE SENDS DOWN THIS , IT'S IMPORTANT WE SPEAK OUT NO MATTER THE OUTCOME OF THE BILLS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DRAFT A LETTER AND HAVE THE CHAIR SIGN A LETTER OPPOSING SENATE BILL 536 AND HOUSE BILL 1061 AND USE THE REMAINING THREE MONTHS OF THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS WITH LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION THE REASON IT'S

IMPORTANT THESE BILLS NOT PASS. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. TO HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> WE WILL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION. ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NON-WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THAT TO THE BOARD, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU.

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

>> NO MA'AM. >> NON-.

>> I HAVE DONE. >> NONE OF THEM SHARE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT, SORRY. >> WE WILL NOW OPEN UP FOR

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

SEEING NON-WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR

AGENDA. >> NO MA'AM.

>> NON-. >> I HAVE NONE.

>> NONE, AND NONE. >> I AM RECOMMENDING AND REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD PULL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 FROM THE AGENDA. LITIGATION HAS BEEN FILED AND IT IS MY LEGAL ADVICE THE BOARD NOT DISCUSS THIS MATTER IN PUBLIC AT THIS

TIME. >> OKAY MOTION TO ASKED TO PULL AGENDA ITEM 15 NOT TO BE RESET OR ANYTHING BECAUSE WE

ARE UNDER LITIGATION? >> LATER IN THE MEETING I WILL REQUEST A SHADE MEETING BE HELD IN THE FUTURE BUT THAT IS

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

>> OKAY THAT'S DISAPPOINTING. BACK TO THE BOARD I GUESS. DO

YOU NEED A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED IF YOU ALL AGREE. REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A MINISTERIAL MOTION. NO PUBLIC COMMENT, AT THIS TIME THERE'S PUBLIC, AVAILABLE ON EACH AENDA ITEM OR FOR ANYTHING REMOVED THE PUBLIC AND SPEAK AT 11:30 OR AT THE END OF THE

MEETING. >> I OBJECT.

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT? >> I AM ASKING FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> YOU HAVE NOT VOTED.

>> YOU ARE VERY RUDE MA'AM.

>> THIS IS YOUR FIRST WARNING. PLEASE SIT DOWN.

>> PLEASE BE POLITE. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO

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>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT, PLEASE

VOTE. >> OKAY. THAT PASSES 4-1.

[1. Vermeer Southeast Sales & Service, Inc. Economic Development Incentive Request.]

OKAY MOVING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

TODAY WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SEND A REQUEST FOR VERMEER SOUTHEAST SALES AND SERVICE. SO, VERMEER PRIMARILY SALES PARTS AND RELATED SERVICES AND MACHINERY FOR VARIOUS AGRICULTURAL AND MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS. THEY ARE PROPOSING A 32,000 SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. IT WILL INCLUDE OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL SPACE AND IT WILL SERVE AS THE REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS.

CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2025. THIS PROJECT WILL BRING AN ESTIMATED $7.7 MILLION INVESTMENT TO THE COUNTY AND CREATE 18 NEW HIGH WAGE JOBS AT 125% OF THE COUNTY AVERAGE ANNUAL WAGE.

THIS IS A LOCATION MAP SHOWING WHERE THE PROJECT IS , NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF U.S. ONE. SO, BASED ON THE 18 DIRECT JOBS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL CREATE THERE WILL BE AN ESTIMATED $1.75 MILLION IN LABOR INCOME ANNUALLY AND $3.3 MILLION ANNUALLY IN GROSS COUNTY PRODUCT. IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS IS A DETAILED ECONOMIC ANALYSIS REPORT WHICH EXPANDS ON THIS. LOOKING AT THE NEW INDUSTRY CATEGORY OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM THE PROJECT SCORED 5.5 POINTS BASED ON IT BEING A TARGETED INDUSTRY, THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY THE JOBS CREATED IN THE WAGE RATE OF THE JOBS. THEREFORE UNDER OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE VERMEER IS ENTITLED AND QUALIFIES FOR INCENTIVES OF 50% OF IMPACT FEES AND WATER SEWER CONNECTION FEES PAID.

TWO YEARS OF TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, GENERAL COUNTY, TWO YEARS OF AD VALOREM TAX GENERAL COUNTY PORTION AND EXPEDITED PERMITTING. THIS PUTS THE INCENTIVE TOTAL AT $118,784 AND IN YOUR BACK A MATERIAL THERE IS A COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS WHICH SHOWS A POSITIVE RETURN ON THE PROJECT. IF APPROVED STAFF WOULD WORK TO DRAFT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDA AND AS WITH ANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE ALL GRANTS ARE PERFORMANCE-BASED. NO PAYMENTS WILL BE MADE UNTIL PERFORMANCE MEASURES ARE MET. LASTLY I WANT TO NOTE CARLISLE KANE IS HERE WITH VERMEER SHOULD YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >> I AM CONCERNED ABOUT ONE THING. I LOOKED AT THE COMPANY, IT IS A GREAT REGIONAL COMPANY. THE REGIONAL AREA WOULD BE HERE. I CONCERN IS THE LOCATION. I DON'T MIND THE INCENTIVE BUT I WISH IT WERE CLOSER TO 95. IF DICK D'SOUZA IS HERE, THE INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY IS LITERALLY TWO LANES AND A WOMAN WAS KILLED BY A TRUCK AT THE CORNER WHERE IT GOES 25 MILES PER HOUR. I NOTICED ON THE REPORT IT SAYS EASY ACCESS FROM 95 TO OUR LOCATION WHICH WOULD EXPLAIN THE BULK OF INBOUND AND OUTBOUND ACTIVITY. WE WOULD HAVE SOME LOCAL TRAFFIC FROM U.S. 1 THAT WOULD HAVE TO TURN LEFT INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. THE BULK OF THE BUSINESS IS BUSINESS TO BUSINESS. MY CONCERN IS THE ONE OF TRUCKS ON THE NARROW ROAD THAT WILL NEVER BE WIDENED BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH A CONSERVATION AREA. ANY THOUGHTS? ESPECIALLY COMING FROM 95 IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THE INTERSECTION BY THE TRAIN WOULD BE BETTER FOR THEM TO GO ON U.S. 1.

>> SO, THERE IS AN OBLIGATION TO WIDENING AND APPROVING ALL INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. THEY'VE APPROACHED THE COUNTY THEY HAVE NOT YET REACHED THE THRESHOLD BUT THEY ARE STARTING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF. AT THE ONE CURVE

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APPLICANT. >> HOW FAR OFF IS THAT?

>> I CANNOT TELL YOU WHEN. THE REASON WHY THEY APPROACHED US IS BECAUSE IT WAS CHEAPER TO DO THE WORK NOW. THE BIGGEST ISSUE WAS RELEASING EASEMENT AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THEY NEED STAFF ASSISTANT WITH, BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THEM AND FOR THE COUNTY. I CANNOT GIVE A TIMELINE ON THAT ONE, I BELIEVE HE MAY BE HERE FOR THE PROJECT OFF THE CURVE AND HE WOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION. IT IS IN DESIGN GOING TO THE FIRST ROUND OF REVIEW BY STAFF AND HAVE SEEN THOSE PLANS PERSONALLY. THAT IS A MUCH MORE IMMINENT PROJECT WITH TURN LANES REQUIRED BEFORE ANY SITE IS OPENED BASED OFF OF LAND

DEVELOPMENT. >> TWO OR THREE YEARS?

>> I CANNOT GIVE YOU ANYTHING WITH THE PLAN. THEY ARE APPROACHING IT AND THE ENGINEER HAS APPROACHED US WANTING TO KNOW , THEY HAVE ASKED FOR THE OPINION WHERE SHOULD WE EXPAND EFFORTS OR FOR UPCOMING OBLIGATIONS THAT IS ONE THAT STAFF TOLD THEM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD FASTER. I CANNOT GIVE YOU A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THEY

WILL REACH THOSE THRESHOLDS. >> EVERYONE CUTS THROUGH THERE SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU.

>> WHILE YOU'RE THERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE. DOES THIS USE

HAVE ZONING? >> YES IT ALREADY HAS ZONING FOR ALL THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO DO THIS INDUSTRIAL WORK.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE ARE SORT OF , TO DETERMINE IF THE INCENTIVE IS WORTH IT. AND THEN FINANCIAL BENEFIT. I WAS CONFUSED BY THE LINE OF QUESTIONING BECAUSE THIS USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT. SO THEY CAN COME IN WHETHER OR NOT THEY GET THE INCENTIVE , WE'RE NOT DECIDING IF THE LAND CAN BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE. IT IS ALREADY ALLOWED.

>> YES OR. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DISCUSS NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO I AM REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE YOU HAVE FLORIDA TIES. FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY NOT KNOW, BOB GRAHAM WHEN HE WAS GOVERNOR FOR EIGHT YEARS AND SENATOR FOR 18 YEARS, THAT'S THE ONLY TIE HE EVER WAR, EVERY DAY, DIFFERENT COLORS, BUT THE FLORIDA TIE.

TEARING UP A LITTLE BIT WHEN I SEE THE TIE, GREAT WORK.

>> I UNDERSTAND IT WAS APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO, BUT IF IT IS PEOPLE'S LIVES AT STAKE. I'M JUST CONCERNED AND I SHOULD BE CONCERNED. I LIKE THAT THEY ARE OFFERING GOOD INCENTIVES FOR WORKERS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THINGS, BUT I WISHED I HAD MADE IT CLEAR IT HAD BEEN CLOSER TO THE FREEWAY.

FROM THE BOARD, LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE WILL NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. PLEASE COME FORWARD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>> GOOD MORNING. ONCE AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER JOSEPH FOR SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS. I HAPPEN TO LIVE CLOSE TO THE AREA. I AM ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK.

IT WAS NOT LONG AGO WE DISCUSSED AN INDUSTRIAL PARK NEAR IGP AND ST. MARK'S POND. WE MENTIONED TRUCKS THAT WILL BE EXITING 95, DRIVING DOWN INTERNATIONAL GOLF TO GET TO THAT. WHILE I UNDERSTAND IT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR THIS, I LOVE THE QUESTION. WHEN WILL THAT ROAD BE MUCH MORE CAPABLE OF HANDLING GIANT TRUCKS? LIKE SHE MENTIONED SOMEONE DID RECENTLY DIE HEAD ON. IT IS A TWO LANE ROAD, THEY MENTION A

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THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

AND COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. WOULD YOU PLEASE TABLE THE ITEM? THIS IS PLANNING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, VERY LITTLE PLANNING AT ALL. ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH. WE LET OTHERS TELL US WHAT TO DO. DON'T EVEN PUT IN THE MINUTES FOR WE SAY. CAN YOU IMAGINE? YOU USE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND SEE SO-AND-SO SPOKE ON THIS ISSUE CLICK HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE VIDEO, NOW YOU DON'T EVEN SAY WHAT PEOPLE SAID, THIS WILL NOT BE RECORDED IN YOUR MINUTES. TYPICAL ST. JOHNS COUNTY PLANNING IS THE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTOR WALKS IN AND TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO. AND YOU DO IT. THIS IS THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY STYLE OF PLANNING WHICH I WOULD SAY IS READY, FIRE, AIM.

PLEASE MOVE TO TABLE THIS. IN THE FUTURE YOU NEED TO INVOLVE NEIGHBORS IN PLANNING THINGS LIKE THIS. CAN WE EVER SEE A LIST OF EVERY SINGLE INCENTIVE INVESTMENT THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS GIVEN? AND A PROGRAMMATIC EVALUATION BY STAFF WITH ACTUAL EXPERTS AS TO WHETHER THE INCENTIVES WORKED.

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? OTHERWISE WE ARE LOOKING AT TAX REPUBLICANS WASTING MONEY AGAIN. THANK YOU.

TO USE THE OVERHEAD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

DORIS TAYLOR. I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS. DORIS TAYLOR.

THIS WAS IN THE PACKET. FIRST OF ALL MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR TODAY IS AN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES. SPECIFICALLY FROM YOUR PACKET TODAY , THEY ARE ASKING 50% OF THE IMPACT FEES TO BE WAIVED. SO, NOT ONLY IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NOT THERE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, BUT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT GIVING THESE PEOPLE PERMISSION TO NOT REALLY PAY FOR THEIR FAIR SHARE OF REMEDYING THAT SITUATION. ON THE SURFACE THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT EVERYBODY IS SCREAMING ABOUT BECAUSE WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE. PLEASE TABLE THIS AT THE VERY LEAST. OR VOTE NO. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH I HAVE TO AGREE, THAT ROAD CANNOT TAKE ANYMORE TRAFFIC. HAVE A QUESTION WHEN WILL THE DUMP CLOSE THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? AS I WILL CLOSE DOWN THAT MIGHT ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC. THERE IS ALSO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS BEING PUT IN NOW DIRECTLY ON IGP IN THAT AREA.

WE CANNOT TAKE ANYMORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD. IT IS GREAT THAT THEY WILL EXTEND THE ROAD OUT A LITTLE BIT. STRAIGHTEN OUT THE CURVE, BUT THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN STRAIGHTEN OUT THE CURVE ENOUGH BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ONE, THEIR TWO CURVES IN THE AREA. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE ACCIDENTS THAT YOU

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PLEASE HOLD OFF ON THIS UNTIL THINGS CAN BE FIXED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER. I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS HERE, THIS IS ABOUT AN INCENTIVE FOR AN EMPLOYER BRINGING JOBS TO THE COUNTY. WE WANT THEM TO RELOCATE REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR STUDENTS AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE.

VERMEER WORKS CLOSELY WITH TARGETED INDUSTRY. THEY WORK EXTENSIVELY WITH AGRICULTURE TIMBER AND RECYCLING. WITH CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING FIRMS. VERMEER HAS MET WITH THE FACULTY AT FIRST COAST TECHNICAL COLLEGE DIESEL AND HYDRAULICS PROGRAM AND HOPES TO REPLICATE THE TRAINING PROGRAM TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR STUDENTS TO GRADUATE AND ENTER FOR A HIGH-PAYING JOB. IT LETS STUDENTS WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT FIELD STAY IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, WORK IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND MAKE A LIVABLE WAGE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. ANOTHER INVESTMENT IN THE COUNTY THAT WILL REAP BENEFITS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. THANK

YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU.

LISTEN ABOUT THESE THINGS. IT OILS TO THIS. ALWAYS BOILS DOWN TO THIS. GREED OVER QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY ISSUES. GREED OVER QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFETY.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE? WITH NON-WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY BACK TO THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU. I FEEL THE NEED TO SAY AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE UNINTENTIONALLY UNDERSTANDING OR INTENTIONALLY NOT UNDERSTANDING WE CAN VOTE YES OR NO, WE CAN VOTE TO TABLE, AND THIS PROJECT CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD. THEY HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO OPERATE AS THEY SEE FIT ON THE PROPERTY. THERE IS NOTHING TODAY WE CAN DO TO STOP THE PROJECT AND THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES WITH THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT, I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO HAVE THE FAX. IF THEY CHOOSE TO ABSORB AND PROCESS AND MAKE THEIR PEACE THAT IS UP TO THEM BUT THE FACTS, NUMBER ONE ANDNUMBER TWO THE AGENDA ITEM FOR ME AS A PRIVATE SECTOR GUYS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IF WE MAKE THE INVESTMENT IN THIS COMPANY IF GETTING $724,000 ON RETURN IS A GOOD DEAL FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IF I SAW THAT DEAL IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR I WOULD SIGN QUICKLY THAT IS A FANTASTIC FINANCIAL BENEFIT FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY SO I'M GOING TO VOTE YES.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I DON'T KNOW IT IS A NOSTALGIC DAY FOR ME. I WANT TO TAKE ONE SECOND AND THINK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE THERE WHICH IS NOW 22,000 ACRES ON EITHER SIDE OF IGP.

COINCIDENTLY 24 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH I NEGOTIATED THE ACQUISITION OF 12 MILE SWAMP ON BEHALF OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. SO COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPING THERE. WHETHER OR NOT IT IS PUBLIC OWNERSHIP. ALSO I SORT OF FEEL BOTH WAYS. I DO AGREE TO SOME EXTENT WITH COMMISSIONER JOSEPH , I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS MADE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO IGP. I UNDERSTAND IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE, I DRIVE THE ROAD RELATIVELY FREQUENTLY. BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST WHETHER OR NOT WE APPROVE THIS IT IS AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PACKAGE. THE ADVOCATE HAS THE RIGHT AND IS ENTITLED TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH THIS IS FROM THE ECONOMIC

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WITH THAT SAID I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO INSTRUCT THE COUNTY TO DRAFT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT AGREEMENT FOR SOUTHIE SALES AND SERVICE AND PROPOSED AGREEMENT FOR CONSIDERATION AT A LATER REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF WE VOTE NO WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE MONEY CORRECT? IT IS GREAT TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE BEGGING PEOPLE TO COME HERE. EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE HERE SO I WANT TO CLARIFY. IS THAT TRUE?

>> YOU'RE ASKING ME? IF WE VOTE NO IN THE COUNTY WOULD NOT GIVE INCENTIVE LAID OUT IN THE AGENDA ITEM. YOU ARE RIGHT.

[2. 2024 Roadway and Transportation Alternatives List of Priority Projects (LOPP).]

>> THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. WELCOME BACK.

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. DICK D'SOUZA HERE TO PRESENT THE 2024 ROADWAY AND TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE PRIORITY PROJECTS REFERRED TO AS THE LOPP ANNUAL PROCESS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND THIS IS THE RENDITION THIS YEAR BEFORE WE SEND IT TO THE TPO WHICH GOES ON TO THE STATE FOR FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.

THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY GROUP IS A GROUP THAT MEETS ON ANNUAL BASIS COMPRISED OF STAFF MEMBERS AND WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND MEMBERS FROM OUR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE INVITED.

WE HOLD THE MEETING IN NOVEMBER , PRIORITIZE THE LIST TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WE WILL PRESENT TO YOU SHORTLY.

THE OBJECTIVE IS TO PRIORITIZE FUNDING FOR CONSIDERATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2030 FOR THE FIVE-YEAR WORK PROGRAM , CURRENTLY ON AT THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING IN 29. THIS IS THE ROUND FOR NEXT YEAR'S FIVE-YEAR WORK PLAN. COMPRISED OF A COUPLE OF LISTS, FIRST THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM CONSISTING OF REGIONAL AND LOCAL PRIORITY ROADWAYS , CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT ROADWAYS , NEW ROADS WITHIN THE NETWORK. THE REGIONALIST REMAINS THE SAME FOR THE TOP FIVE WITH STATE ROUTE 16 EXPANDING DESCRIPTION. LAST YEAR THE COMMISSION VOTED TO MOVE STATE ROUTE 16 FROM PRIORITY NUMBER FIVE UP TO PRIORITY NUMBER ONE WHICH REMAINS UNCHANGED , BUT WE HAVE EXPANDED THE SCOPE SO INSTEAD OF BEING WIDENING WITH TWO LANES WE INCREASED IT FROM THE CURRENT TWO LANES ALL THE WAY THROUGH STATE ROAD 312 AND INCORPORATED IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE INTERSECTION. SOME ON THE LOCAL PRIORITY LIST LIKE THE INTERSECTION ACROSS FROM PUBLIC WORKS. THEY ARE ALL INCLUDED IN ONE LARGER WATER SCOPED PROJECT AT THE ADVICE OF D.O.T. TO INCREASE A CHANCE OF RECEIVING FUNDING. ALONG THE PARKWAY IT WAS ON THE LIST, NOW IT IS FUNDED ON CONSTRUCTION SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU WILL SEE.

WILL CLICK THE REGIONAL PROJECT LIST, PARKWAY MOVED UP TO FUNDED, TOP-FIVE IS UNCHANGED WAS STAY ROAD 16, COUNTY ROAD, COULD YOU ONE AND NOW INCLUDING PINE ISLAND AND THEN 207 THE WIDENING OF THAT AND THE REST OF THE LIST IS UNCHANGED. MOVING ON TO LOCAL PREDATORS, KING STREET IN THE CITY MOVES INTO THE FUNDED AND THEN REMAINING UNCHANGED. YOU WILL SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF LOCAL PRIORITIES NUMBER 12 IS COUNTY ROAD 305 EXTENSION WHICH IS THE EXTENSION FROM THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY TO THE SOUTH. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THERE WAS DEBATE WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY GROUP ON THE INCLUSION OF THIS. WE DID ALLOW EVERYBODY TO HAVE THEIR SAY WITH STAFF RECOMMENDING WE KEEP THE ROADWAY ON THE LIST ALTHOUGH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PRIORITIES EVERYONE AT STAFF LOVE UNDERSTANDS THE EXTENSION OF THIS ROAD ALL THE WAY SOUTH IS GOING TO OPEN UP THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COUNTY FOR DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT WANTING TO SEE THAT HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON.'S WE ARE KEEPING IT AT THE BOTTOM. NOT A LARGE PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY, BUT

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ALTERNATIVES, THIS LIST REMAINS UNCHANGED, WE DID CHANGE SOME NOMENCLATURE TO MATCH NAMES WHERE THE STATE REFERS TO THINGS MAINLY DEALING WITH THE VILLANO TRAIL.

ST. JOHNS RIVER LOOP NUMBER ONE, THE NORTHERN SECTION , SECTION 3 IS NUMBER THREE AND THEN THE REMAINING SECTION OF SECTION 2 IS NUMBER FOUR AND WE OF THE ORANGE TRAIL NOMENCLATURE CHANGED THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE LOOP .

NUMBER FIVE AND THE OTHER TWO REMAIN UNCHANGED. THE SIDEWALK TO SCHOOLS REMAINS UNCHANGED. THIS IS THE DIRECT LIST WE GET FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEY HAVE ELECTED TO NOT MAKE CHANGES TO THE LIST AT THIS TIME. REQUEST IS TO HAVE BOARD APPROVAL OF THE LIST AS PRESENTED OR ANY CHANGES YOU WISH TO MAKE AND THEN THIS WOULD BE TRANSMITTED TO THE TPO FOR INCLUSION WITH THE D.O.T. FOR FUNDING FOR NEXT YEAR. I AM HERE AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE HERE FOR OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER . >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE TRAILS PLEASE? REPRESENTATIVE STEVENSON MADE A REQUEST, WAS

THAT THE ORANGE DALE? >> ORANGE DALE TO THE MICHAEL ARE SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO MOVE UP TO THE TOP THREE THAT IS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WHICH WOULD PAN OUT THIS IS A HIGHLY VISIBLE PROJECT AND RELEASE FUNDING FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. ANY FOR THE QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE.

>> I KNOW WHERE THE TRAIL WOULD GO, OPENING UP RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND ALTERNATIVES TO DRIVING CARS.

REPRESENTATIVE STEVENSON HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR THAT FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD MOVE THAT INTO THE TOP THREE.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

LAST SUMMER I WAS ASKED TO TESTIFY TO THE TRAILS COMMISSION, AS SHE CONSIDERED HERSELF CONFLICTED SO I SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY SUPPORTING THIS TRAIL AND ALSO I WANT TO SAY AGAIN FOR ME THIS IS A NO-BRAINER BECAUSE BASICALLY IT'S USING A LOT OF ALREADY PUBLICLY OWNED LAND.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. THE TRAIL WOULD BE IN BOTH THE RIVER PRESERVE, PUBLIC LAND, PARTS OF LAND THAT IS PRESERVED THROUGH DRI , A GOOD PORTION OF THE SWAMP WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND PART OF THE SILVERLAKE PROJECT AND CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT WERE DONATED 20 YEARS AGO FIRST APPROVED. WITH THAT SAID THIS IS NOT THE BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICE TO GET TREMENDOUS RECREATION ACTIVITY AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS WILDERNESS TRAIL. I DON'T MEAN TO DRAG IT OUT,

BUT JUST A LITTLE HISTORY. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

OKAY THAT WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> GOOD MORNING. 703 PINEHURST PLACE. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED ME TO SERVE ON THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION CITIZENS ADVISORY COUNCIL. THE GOAL IS TO REPRESENT VIEWS OF NEIGHBORS RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION AND ROAD ISSUES. FIRST-ORDER THAN MR. DICK D'SOUZA FOR KINDNESS TRANSPARENCY FAIRNESS, PATIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURTESY AND RESPONSIVENESS. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS ROADBUILDING PRIORITIES, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT WE SEEM TO BE UNABLE TO GET THE VISION OF MOVING PEOPLE AND NOT JUST CARS. FOR INSTANCE, WE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT THE WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 207. YES, THERE IS A LOT OF INCREASED GROWTH, BUT WHY NOT FOCUS ON SOME FORM OF PEOPLE MOVEMENT OTHER THAN CARS? IT STRIKES ME THAT A SIX LANE ROAD IN THIS AREA OF THE

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BEEN TELLING YOU THIS FOR YEARS, TELLING PRIOR BOARDS THE SAME THING. WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY GOING INTO ROADBUILDING AND LITTLE OR NOTHING INTO MOVING PEOPLE. WHEN THEY HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER SITTING HERE WHO WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO VOTED AGAINST DOUBLING TRANSIT FARES. WE ARE CRUEL TO WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY WITH PLANNING AND APPROPRIATIONS, WITH PRIORITIES. HOW ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TRAILS MAY BE MOBILITY INHIBITED SO TO SPEAK OR DON'T HAVE AUTOMOBILES OR DON'T NEED THEM OR CAN'T AFFORD THEM HOW ARE THEY TO GET AROUND? THE COUNCIL ON AGING SUNSHINE BUSES ARE NOT EVEN DISCUSSED. $1 MILLION A YEAR IS THAT IT? WE ARE NOT GETTING WHAT WE ARE PAYING FOR. THEY DON'T EVEN RUN BUSES ON SUNDAYS. DON'T EVEN RUN BUSES ON SUNDAYS. HOW ARE FOLKS GOING TO GET TO CHURCH WITHOUT A CAR? DON'T EVEN HAVE FIVE OR SIX BUSES GOING PAST ANY GIVEN POINT AT ANY GIVEN TIME. IF YOU WANTED TO GO TO THE ANASTASIA PUBLIC LIBRARY FROM WHERE I LIVE, I HAVE TO TAKE TWO BUSES. BAD PLANNING IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND IT REMINDS ME OF A SERIES OF CARTOONS IN THE POLITICAL CARTOON DOONESBURY WHERE ONE OF THE CHARACTERS UNCLES WAS ARRESTED FOR BRIBERY IN A BRIBERY SCANDAL IN OKLAHOMA INVOLVING ROAD BUILDERS WHEN IN REAL LIFE IT WAS LIKE 25 STATES WERE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WERE SENT TO PRISON FOR TAKING BRIBES FROM PEOPLE WHO SELL ROADBUILDING MATERIALS. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE DISCLOSURE OF LOBBYIST IN THE COUNTY. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE ON THE RECORD EVERY SINGLE CONTACT YOU HAVE ON ROADBUILDING IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SINCE YOU HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING ON THE BOARD BECAUSE I WOULD SURE LIKE TO KNOW. WE DON'T EVEN REQUIRE LOBBY DISCLOSURES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THERE COULD BE 20 LOBBYIST HERE AND WE WOULD NEVER KNOW. THEY ARE NOT WEARING NASCAR JACKETS FOR THE ROADBUILDING INDUSTRY AND WE HAVE SEEN THEIR WORK AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO THE COUNTY OUR BEAUTY AND NATURE, OUR WAY OF LIFE AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD MORE ROADS. CAN SOME ESTATE ON THE RECORD OF THE ROADS LISTED IN THIS DOCUMENT HOW MANY ARE ALREADY FUNDED AND PLEASE ASK COUNCIL TO STATE ON THE RECORD IS BEING INCLUDED IN THIS LIST CONSIDERED APPROPRIATION? ARE WE APPROPRIATE MONEY IN THESE DAYS ONCE A YEAR WITHOUT DISCUSSING THE COST? WHO BENEFITS? THE ROAD BUILDERS. CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS REPUBLICAN ECONOMICS , THIS IS NOT RIGHT, THIS IS NOT ANY WAY TO DECIDE OUR FUTURE.

>> I THINK IT IS GREAT 16 HAS BEEN PUT TO THE TOP OF THE LIST. I HATE TO TELL YOU THIS LIST 16 HAS BEEN ON THERE SINCE 2005 TO HAVE IMPROVED, 2005 THEY LOOKED AT IMPROVING 16.

THE SECOND ITEM ON THE LIST IS 2209 DUMPING OUT ONTO 16.

WHY? WHEN 16 IS NOT FIXED YET? WHY ARE WE TAKING A ROAD THROUGH TO 16 TO DUMP ALL THAT TRAFFIC ON THERE? IS IT BECAUSE OF A DEVELOPER NOW THEY CAN BUILD MORE HOMES ON 2209?

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>> HELLO AGAIN. COMPLEX ISSUE. I DISAGREE THAT WE ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY ON ROADS. I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND WIDEN ROADS. I AGREE THAT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT PEOPLE MOVING.

I THINK WE NEED ALL OF THE ABRUPT AS THE APPROACH. SORT OF TONGUE-IN-CHEEK BUT MAYBE NOT. ONE IDEA IS WE HAVE WATERWAYS. WHY ARE WE NOT RUNNING FERRIES ? I HAVE LIVED OTHER PLACES WITH GOOD WATERWAYS AND THEY RUN FERRIES AND MOVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. ANOTHER WAY TO MOVE PEOPLE MAY BE. WHY DON'T WE HAVE HELIPORT'S. WE GET A PARKING LOTS FROM ONE REGION OF THE COUNTY TO ANOTHER WITH PARKING LOTS WHERE YOU CAN RENT CARS AND BICYCLES HOUR. THEY DO THAT IN CITIES. WE NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THAT IS NOT HAPPENING WITH THIS HODGEPODGE AND STOP GIVING GIFTS TO THE DEVELOPERS. YOU JUST VOTED TO LET ANOTHER DEVELOPER JUST PAY HALF OF THE IMPACT FEES. WHY? THEY WILL DO THE PROJECT ANYWAY, THEY DON'T NEED THAT BUT WE DO BECAUSE WE HAD PROBLEMS. STOP GIVING AWAY OUR MONEY TO THE DEVELOPERS AND START SPENDING 100% OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYERS. SO YES ALL OF THE ABOVE. IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS. I KNOW SOME OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST FOR A LONG TIME. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE LIST? SOMETHING YOU CAN PRESENT TO SAY WE ARE DOING SOMETHING? YOU ARE ON THE LIST.

DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING AT ALL? I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE LIST AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ON THE LISTS FOR A LONG TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF IT MEANS ANYTHING. THANK YOU.

RESIDENT OF BEACH WALK AND WE WERE PROMISED A GOLF CART COMMUNITY AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT WHILE EXPANDING SIDEWALKS IF YOU COULD CREATE GOLF CART ACCESS TO BOTH THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF BEACH WALK OF ART ON 210 SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD TO THE TRAFFIC ON 210 WHEN WE TRY TO GO TO SAY PUBLIX. MAYBE WE CAN CROSS THE STREET. WE HAVE A PUBLIX WE CANNOT GOLF CART TO IT, FOR THE INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE. THERE IS A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL GOING IN AT BEACON LAKE AND WE CANNOT GOLF CART TO THAT, WE CANNOT CROSS 210. WE CANNOT GOLF CART TO OUR OWN RETAIL BEACH WALK RETAIL. WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE SOME KIND OF PATH BETWEEN THE HOMES SO WE CAN PARK AND WALK TO THE RETAIL INSTEAD OF JUST GOLF CARDING IN. YOU HAVE 1000 HOMES AND IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF THE INTERSECTIONS OF 210 GOING ON TO 210 AND WE HAVE TROPHY LAKE AND WE CAN'T GOLF CART TO IT. THERE IS NO PARKING LOT. HOW DO WE GET TO IT? WE HAVE TO WALK TO AND HALF MILES? IT IS A HOT TOPIC IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ASK YOU GUYS TO DO THIS OR AM I DOING IT RIGHT RIGHT NOW? WE'RE TALKING, HE HAS BEEN HELPFUL AND HE CAME TO VISIT AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO

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>> YOU ARE DOING IT. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> QUICKLY, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY LAST WEDNESDAY EVENING FOR TWO HOURS WITH MARK AND 50 OTHER RESIDENTS AND THIS IS ONE ISSUE WE DISCUSSED. MIKE IS LOOKING INTO IT WITH RESPECT TO THE GOLF CART AND THE PATH ISSUE AND SEVERAL OTHER MAJOR ISSUES THAT THEY FACE LET'S JUST SAY

SORT OF SURPRISING. >> AS A COMMUNITY WE UNDERSTAND IT IS CONTENTIOUS THERE IS THE EXPANSION , THE EXPANSION OVER ONE, YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FROM HIM. WE UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD ALSO KEEP US IN MIND AS WHAT WE WERE PROMISED AND WHAT THE PUD WAS AND HOW IT WAS DESCRIBED TO THE COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE BUYING INTO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO? SEEING THAT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.

TPO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION. I WANT TO SAY BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION I WAS SELECTED CHAIRMAN OF THE TPO IN THE LAST MEETING AND IT IS A PUBLIC MEETING. FDOT IS IN THE ROOM WITH AGENCIES WHO FUND AND CONTROL TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE REGION ALL IN THE ROOM I WOULD WELCOME ANYBODY WHO HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE IS FUNDED TO PLEASE COME TO JACKSONVILLE.

AND ATTEND AND ASK QUESTIONS, WE ARE PUBLIC, THERE JUST LIKE WE DO HERE. WITH THAT MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2024 ST. JOHNS COUNTY ROADWAY AND TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE LIST PRIORITY PROJECTS WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WE MOVE ON STILL UP TO THE TOP THREE OF THE TRAILS LIST. FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PLANNING

ORGANIZATION. >> SECOND.

[3. Public Hearing *CDD 2023-01 Greenbriar CDD.]

>> OKAY EMOTION AND A SECOND. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER THREE. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> NO MEETINGS. >> I DID NOT HAVE MEETINGS BUT I DID SPEAK WITH WEDNESDAY JANUARY 10TH AND BRIEFLY TO

DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITEM. >> NO MEETINGS.

>> NO RECORD OF MEETINGS. >> NO MEETINGS.

>> OKAY GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS MICHAEL ECKERT WITH THE FIRM KUTACK ROCK HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE PETITION TO ESTABLISH THE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. A COUPLE THINGS I WOULD NOTE THIS IS NOT DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL AND THE CD WOULD NOT HAVE ZONING POWERS IT IS MORE OF A FINANCING AND LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION ENTITY WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO ESTABLISH. THE REQUEST IS TO ESTABLISH OVER 1304 ACRES. WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR SPECIAL CONSENT FOR RECREATION WHICH ALLOWS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO FUND RECREATION AMENITIES AND FOR SECURITY UNDER THE STATUTE INCLUDING FENCES WALLS AND GATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. FROM A PROCESS OF WHAT WE GO THROUGH TODAY BRIEFLY TALKING ABOUT ESTABLISHMENT , STAFF REPORT INCLUDES GOOD INFORMATION. IT IS A LITTLE DUPLICATIVE OF THIS PRESENTATION. AND THEN THE ANALYSIS OF FINDINGS AND THE CONCLUSION. ALL CDD'S ARE ESTABLISHED UNDER CHAPTER 190 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE CHARTER FOR ALL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I BELIEVE THERE IS OVER 800. CDD IS A LOCAL UNIT OF SPECIAL USE GOVERNMENT SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW, PUBLIC RECORDS, AND BOARD MEMBERS ARE SUBJECT TO A LOT OF THE SAME ETHICS REQUIREMENTS THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE TOO INCLUDING THE NEW FOUR HOURS OF ETHICS TRAINING THAT WERE

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SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM, ON-SITE ROADWAYS WITH A SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF ROAD WIDENING OF GREENBRIAR . COUNTY PARK ACCESS ROAD INCLUDED IN STREETLIGHTING, UNDERGROUND AND TYPICAL COMMON AREA LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION AND SITE AMENITIES.

ESTIMATE OF COST FOR WHAT'S ELIGIBLE IS $221,788,000. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE DISTRICT TO FUND ALL OF THAT, A LOT OF THAT IS COMING FROM THE DEVELOPER. SOMETHING I WANT TO POINT OUT WHICH IS SPECIAL TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT THE COUNTY BOARD WANTS TO PUT IN ALL PETITIONS AND THAT IS THAT YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS PETITION AND CREATION OF CDD DOES NOT OBLIGATE COUNTY TO TAKE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING ON A SAYING CDD CANNOT EXIST BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS UP TO THE COUNTY STAFF AND COUNTY BOARD WHETHER YOU ACCEPT A ROADWAY OR STORM WATER POND FOR OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE AND YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THAT HERE

TODAY. >> FACTORS ARE SET FORTH CHAPTER 190 ON WHAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER IN TERMS OF WHETHER TO ESTABLISH CDD, THERE ARE SIX FACTORS IN CHAPTER 190 AND INCLUDED WITHIN STAFF REPORT AND YOUR STAFF DID A GOOD JOB ANALYZING THOSE FACTORS AND PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS. AGAIN I WILL NOT GO THROUGH EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT. WE DID PROVIDE PREFILED TESTIMONY TO STAFF LAST WEEK AS WELL AS COPIES TO THE CLERK TODAY , THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO AND THOSE ARE FROM THE PETITIONER REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY, DISTRICT MANAGEMENT AND ASSESSMENT METHODOLOGY CONSULTING FIRM AS WELL AS, AND BASICALLY TESTIMONY WALKS THROUGH THE DIFFERENT THAT YOUR STAFF ANALYZE IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE CDD WOULD SATISFY CHAPTER 190

FACTORS. >> FINALLY WE PROVIDED WRITTEN CONSENT FROM THE LANDOWNERS AND MIND WITHIN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENT OF CHAPTER 190 PUBLISHING NOTICE OF ESTABLISHMENT HEARING FOR FOUR WEEKS AND PROVIDED THE AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION TO STAFF AND WE PROVIDED THE PREFILED TESTIMONY. THAT ADDRESS SIX FACTORS. FINALLY, TO BE CLEAR WE'RE ASKING FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF THE DISTRICT AND THE GRANT OF THE RECREATION AND SECURITY POWERS INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE INCLUDED WITHIN THE AGENDA PACKAGE. AT THIS POINT AND TIME IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

>> QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE ROADWAYS , DOES THAT COME FROM US OR YOU OR THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS?

>> SO RIGHT NOW, THE DISTRICT IS PLANNING ON FUNDING THE INTERNAL ROADWAYS , THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC ROADWAYS, NOT COMING FROM THE COUNTY, COMING FROM THE CDD WHICH WAS CREATED AS A PAYS FOR ITSELF METHODOLOGY RATHER THAN EXISTING RESIDENTS PAYING FOR THE ROADS. THE CDD WOULD BE FUNDING ROADS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. IF THERE IS PRIVATE ROADS THAT WOULD BE GATED OFF, THOSE WOULD NOT BE FUNDED BY CDD. THOSE WOULD BE

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THE COUNTY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE

BOARD? PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WILL NOT OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. PLEASE COME FORWARD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

HAS NOTHINGTO DO WITH ME, BUT LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATIONS , A REALLY NICE VISITATION. YOU USED THE TERM A LOT AND YOU SAID 200 AND YOU SAID $200 MILLION AND THE DEVELOPER WOULD CONTRIBUTE A LOT. IF HE CAN PUT THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER CAN HE COME UP WITH THE RATIO OR EXACT NUMBER ON THAT 211 MILLION AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SO THE DEVELOPER COULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE? THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE GETTING STUCK ON THE BEACH WALK. JUST A COMMENT. HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE --

>> I FINALLY REMEMBERED MY LATE FRIEND DIANE MILLS EXPLAINING TO ME WHAT CDD'S WERE AND SHE WAS RIGHT. A WAY FOR DEVELOPER FRIENDS TO OFFLOAD THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ON FUTURE RESIDENCE. RIGHT? WE ARE NOT GETTING THE DETAIL IN THESE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE DESERVE. TOO MANY PRESENTERS WHO COME BEFORE YOU COME AND BABY TALK. YOU NEED TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS. IF I WERE IN YOUR SHOES I WOULD BE ASKING QUESTIONS, DEMANDING ANSWERS AND EXPECTING DEMOCRACY.

INSTEAD, THIS IS FORMULAIC, HE TOOK LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES.

ANYBODY TUNING IN, ANYBODY IN THE AUDITORIUM WHO IS NOT A LOBBYIST , THEY WERE NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MAN JUST SAID IT IS A BUNCH OF DOUBLETALK, 800 CDD'S STATEWIDE IN THE STATE. SO BASICALLY WE HAVE PHONY ENTITIES AND I THINK IN THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT IN THE 1800S THEY WOULD'VE CALLED THE CDD'S ROTTEN BOROUGHS. THEY ARE NOT REALLY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATIONS. THEY ARE GOVERNMENTAL BUT I DON'T SEE YOU GUYS REGULATING THEM, I DON'T SEE TALLAHASSEE REGULATING THEM AND I DON'T SEE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE PUBLIC AND WHAT'S BEING DONE IN THEIR NAMES. THIS IS TOO MUCH SECRECY. TOO MUCH PRIVATE LEGISLATION. PEOPLE COME IN FRONT OF YOU REPRESENTING CORPORATIONS AND YOU DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. AND OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS SEEM TO LIKE IT THAT WAY. SECRECY. YOU WANT TO REQUIRE THE LOBBYIST TO WHERE NASCAR JACKETS, YOU ARE TO REQUIRE THE LOBBYIST TO AT LEAST REGISTER. WE HAD A COUNTY COMMISSIONER FROM PONTEVEDRA WHO ACTUALLY SAID IN 2016 THAT HE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE LOBBYIST REGISTRATION BECAUSE IT WOULD BE BURDENSOME.

$25 A YEAR OR SOMETHING. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? PLEASE MOVE TO TABLE THIS AND ANY OTHER CDD PACKAGE UNTIL WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON CDD'S TO SEE IF THEY ARE FUNCTIONING IN PUBLIC INTEREST. LET'S NOT JUST SIT THERE ON THIS $83,000 A YEAR SALARY AND DO NOTHING AND RUBBERSTAMP EVERY ITEM ON THESE AGENDAS. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT CDD'S. DO YOU THINK THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL AND REALLY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY? OR ARE THEY CATS PAUSE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ? I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE VIGOROUS DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER IT'S IN PUBLIC INTEREST TO HAVE THESE CDD'S AND TO GO GRANULAR TO READ THE THING, MAKE HIM GO INTO DETAIL AND EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S ALL GREEK TO ME. AND IT IS JUST NOT RIGHT, SECRECY TOO MUCH. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE? WITH NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YES. SO, WHEN THE GENTLEMAN

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>> I CAN CERTAINLY BRING IT BACK. I KNOW GOLF CART COMMUNITIES HAVE A DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL COMPONENT , BUT I CAN

PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

DEAN? >> I WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO MY FRIEND'S COMMENTS. THAT IS A LITTLE MORE HISTORY. CDD'S ARE SIMPLY NOTHING MORE THAN A CONDUIT FOR FINANCE. THE LAW WAS PASSED IN 1975 , I WAS ON THE GOVERNOR'S STAFF AT THE TIME TO HELP DRAFT THE LEGISLATION. I DID NOT WRITE IT, I COMMENTED ON IT AS A STAFF MEMBER. IT IS A CONDUIT FOR FINANCING AND IF ANYONE IS BUYING A HOME IN A SUBDIVISION WHICH HAS HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION DUES, CDD FEES, THAT IS DISCLOSED BY THE REALTOR, THEY CAN CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN AFFORD IT. IT IS NOT A SECRET.

NOTHING IS DONE IN SECRECY, IT IS ABOVE BOARD AND IT IS A CONDUIT FOR FINANCING WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS BEFORE 1975 OF ANY SIZE THAT HAVE OPTED FOR CDD BECAUSE IT IS A WAY FOR THE NEW HOMEOWNERS IN THE FUTURE TO PAY FOR WHAT THEY NEEDED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE PRIVATE ROADS, LANDSCAPING, CURB AND GUTTER, STORM WATER. THAT'S THE WAY IT OPERATES IN

FLORIDA. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

WHITEHURST. >> IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SLIDE IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT HAD THE $211 MILLION. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT? I'M SORRY, $221

MILLION. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> ESTIMATED COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL PUT INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE COURSE

OF THE BUILDOUT? >> THIS IS PART OF THE COST, NOT ALL THE COST. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS CAN ONLY FINANCE AND FUND WHAT IS CONSIDERED PUBLIC AND RESTRUCTURE. SO THINGS LIKE DEVELOPING LOTS CANNOT BE FUNDED BY CDD SO THAT IS A PRIVATE COST THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO FUND. THE REMAINDER BECAUSE IT IS 1304 ACRES OF A MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY, MILLER IS THE ONE THAT DEVELOPED COST ESTIMATES, BUT THAT IS THE COST IN MODERN TIMES OF DEVELOPING SOMETHING OF THAT SIZE. A LITTLE UNDER

2000 PLANNED UNITS. >> A LOT OF THIS SEEMS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU WOULD NEED TO ACTIVATE THE PROPERTY.

>> CORRECT. STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FOR EXAMPLE. THAT IS SOMETHING EVERY COMMUNITY IS GOING TO NEED AND IS GOING TO BE FUNDED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CDD. THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED BY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION INSTEAD, BUT SOMEBODY LIVING THERE WAYS AND PAYS THE HOA FOR THE COMPANY TO MAINTAIN THE POND OR THE PAY CDD TO PAY A COMPANY TO MAINTAIN THE BOND. SO IT'S KIND OF A WASH IN THAT ACCESS

FOR THE MAINTENANCE. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU

ANSWERING MY QUESTION. >> THE WATER GUYS ARE SOMETHING ELSE. OKAY I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I WANT TO MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024-1 APPROVING CDD 23-01 ESTABLISHING GREENBRIER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BASED ON

[4. Public Hearing *MAJMOD 2022-12 Sandy Creek PUD.]

THREE FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND. FOR THE DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS. THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. OKAY COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>> I HAD NO MEETINGS BUT I DID DRIVE EXTENSIVELY IN THE AREA, NOTICING THE ONE IN AND ONE OUT.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> NO MEETINGS. I HAVE NONE.

>> NO RECORD OF MEETINGS I JUST RECEIVED AN EMAIL THIS MORNING

OR LAST NIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> NO MEETINGS. >> OKAY, GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. I AM THE AGENT FOR SANDY CREEK INVESTMENT. I AM HERE SEEKING APPROVAL TODAY OF THE SANDY CREEK PROJECT MAJOR MOD 2022-12. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE THIS SCREEN BEFORE AND I INTENDED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THE SLIDES. ANYONE WHO CAN HELP WITH THAT?

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>> I HAVE BEEN TOLD IT IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE SO I

WILL DO WHAT I CAN DO THERE. >> BEFORE HE STARTS I HAD A

MEETING AND I FORGOT. >> I THINK WE PROBABLY MET

ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. >> ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO I MET WITH THIS FELLA. HE DESCRIBED THE PROJECT. SO THEY GO.

>> I ALMOST FORGOT BECAUSE IT HAS TAKEN THAT LONG TO GET THIS HERE. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS , WE HAVE A PARCEL OF PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THIS SLIDE AND IT IS THE MAJORITY ON I-95 AND IT IS JUST SOUTH OF CR 210. JUST TO THE EAST THE MAIN ENTRANCE EXCUSE ME JUST WEST OF THE CURRENT SEGMENT THAT YOU APPROVED TO WIDEN TO SIX LANES. OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS A MIXED-USE DISTRICT. THE PARCELS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY, ONE IS THE MAJOR MOD AND THEN TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE PROPERTY OF THE ZONE CHT FOR THE SECONDARY ACCESS THAT WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS. ON THIS SLIDE I ZOOMED IN AND I WANTED YOU TO SEE THE SECONDARY PARCEL WE ARE DISCUSSING. YOU HAVE THE BLUE ARROW THAT IS CALLED SANDY CROSSING BOULEVARD. YOU WILL SEE THAT CONNECTS TO THE DOTTED LINE WHICH IS MOON BAY PARKWAY. MOON BAY PARKWAY AT THE CURRENT TIME, WITH THE CONNECTION POINT WOULD BE IS COMPLETED. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY YET. I KNOW IT IS CLOSE TO THAT. SO, WE HAVE APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF 2017-11 THAT'S THE ORDINANCE AND IT DATES BACK TO 2003. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW MODIFICATIONS IN THE INTERIM. WE ARE HERE TO LOOK AS IT STANDS AS OF 2017. WHICH IS 283 SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES, 435 MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND 128 ACRES OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT SAYS INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT DEFINES LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND GIVES IT . WITHIN THIS SLIDE , I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE AERIAL VIEW BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT ALL THE SINGLE-FAMILY WAS DONE IN TWO PHASES. PHASE 1 AND TWO. 383 HOUSES ARE ALMOST COMPLETE. WE HAVE CLOSED OVER 360 OF THEM SOLD AND CLOSED. WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED 11 ACRES OF PARKS.

WE HAVE, IT SAYS PARK WHERE YOU SEE THE LITTLE PARK, THAT IS A OPEN AREA PARK WITH PAVILION AND FOR CHILDREN. WE SEE THE LOWER PARK THAT IS JUST ABOVE THE INDUSTRIAL PIECE THAT IS A DOG PARK. WE ALSO HAVE A TRAILHEAD DOWN WE DID SEE PHASE 2 CDE. WE HAVE NOT CONSTRUCTED A MULTIFAMILY NOR HAVE WE CONSTRUCTED ANY OF THE INDUSTRIAL. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. SO. THE CURRENT PUD AS IT STANDS SAYS PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF ANYTHING GREATER THAN 383 RESIDENTIAL UNITS , UNITS BUT THE RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT WAS BUILT.

OR ANY INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, A SECOND ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED BY DEVELOPER APPROVED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY MODIFICATION.

FINALLY AFTER 15 YEARS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THAT ACCESS TO THIS CR 210. IN 2005 IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SCREEN, YOU WILL SEE AGAIN THERE IS A LONG YELLOW LINE AND YOU'LL SEE THE TWO BODIES OF WATER. THAT IS A 33.49 ACRE PARCEL ZONE CHT PURCHASED IN 2005 AND YOU WILL ALSO SEE IT IS LANDLOCKED. WITH THE DEVELOPMENT BY DR HORTON OF BRIDGEWATER IT WAS FORMERLY WILSON EXTENDING TO MOON BAY PARK, RENAMED MOON BAY PARKWAY AND EXTENDED AND WE WERE ABLE

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WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGNS AND WHEN WE DID THE PRELIMINARY DESIGNS, WE HAD FILED SOME PAPERWORK WITH SOME RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS. THEY WERE GOING TO SALESPEOPLE TO THE HOA , WE HAD PEOPLE CONTACTING US. SO WE HELD A TOWN HALL MEETING WHICH WAS ABOUT THE TIME THAT I SPOKE TO COMMISSIONER DEAN.

SO WE HELD A TOWN HALL MEETING AND THE RECEPTION WAS GREAT.

THE BIGGEST THING WAS SOMEBODY SAID THEY WANTED A TRAFFIC CIRCLE ON SANDY CREEK PARKWAY SO WE WENT BACK AND WE TALKED TO KIMBERLY HORN . THE COUNTY STAFF, WE WORKED THROUGH IT AND WE REDESIGNED THE ROADWAY WHICH WE WILL GET TO IN A SECOND. AND WE PUT TWO TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN. THE FIRST IS ON SANDY CREEK PARKWAY. WE ALSO DID NOT WANT IT TO BECOME A DRAG STRIP SO WE PUT A SECOND TRAFFIC CIRCLE IN WHICH ALSO PROVIDES A AMENITY BECAUSE WE HAVE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT JUST TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE NORTH . THIS LAND IS ZONED CHT SO I WILL GET INTO IT A LITTLE LATER. WE SEE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN AMENITY TO BOTH THE BRIDGEWATER AS WELL AS SANDY CREEK PEOPLE BY GETTING COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USE WHICH COULD BE ANYTHING FROM SHOPS, SUB SHOPS TO HAIR SALOS OR NAILS. ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO STAY WITHIN AND OFF OF CR 210. WE THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT HELP FOR THAT.

SO, AS I SAID WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT , ONE OF THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE. WE HAVE ON MOON BAY PARKWAY , THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS WE NEEDED TO DO A DECELERATION LANE . WE NOT ONLY ADDED A DECELERATION LANE , MOON BAY PARKWAY HAD NOT BEEN CONSTRUCTED. WE WORKED WITH DR HORTON , THEY MODIFIED PLANS WHICH WERE APPROVED TO ADD THE DECELERATION LANE AND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND COMPLETED.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ROUNDABOUTS, YOU WILL SEE REAL QUICK AT BOTH PEAK A.M. AND P.M. WE UPGRADED SO THE PARKWAY WILL FUNCTION WELL TO HELP OUT WITH THE TRAFFIC. THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST PART OF THIS PRESENTATION. WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT YOU GIVE YOUR BLESSING TO THE SANDY CROSSING AS WE HAVE DESIGNED. IT IS READY TO BE PERMITTED, IT HAS GONE THROUGH FULL ENGINEERING REVIEW. THE ONLY THING STOPPING US FROM CONSTRUCTING AT THIS TIME IS THAT THE COUNTY HAS HELD THE ISSUANCE OF PERMIT FOR YOUR APPROVAL. BUT SINCE WE HAD TO COME IN FOR A MAJOR MOD , THAT LEADS US TO PART TWO OF THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS THE FACT THAT WHEN WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, THEY FOUND OUT WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL COMPONENT. THAT WAS NOT RECEIVED VERY WELL. WE DISCUSSED THAT AND WE HAD , WE WENT TO THE MEETING AND WE GIVE THEM SOME OPTIONS. THAT WAS TO REPLACE THE INDUSTRIAL COMPONENT AS WELL AS TO ADD OTHER AMENITIES TO THE SUBDIVISION WITH SOME SINGLE FAMILY. THE ISSUE THAT ARISES

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THIS IS WHAT WE ENVISION. WE WOULD LEAVE THEM AS DIRT, WITH A COUPLE PLACES TO REST ALONG THEM, BUT THE MAIN THING TO DO IS TO UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE PASSIVE USE. IF I GO BACK TWO SLIDES, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE THE PARK. THE LOWER HALF IS THE LOWER 30 ACRES THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE MULTIFAMILY. SO, NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LOWER 30 THAT REMAINS. THE LOWER 30, YOU WILL SEE IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT SANDY CREEK , YOU WILL SEE IT IS INTERWOVEN WITH NATURE.

IT IS NOT STACKED, THERE ARE PODS WHICH CIRCLEDTHE WETLANDS AND THE FOREST. THE MULTIFAMILY AS DESIGNED IS INTENDED TO DO THE SAME THING. YOU WILL SEE ALMOST ALL THE APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOUSES, MULTI FAMILY ALL BACK UP TO THE WETLANDS AND WOODLANDS, NOTHING BACK TO BACK. NOT A BIG PARKING LOT.

IT KEEPS AND CONFORMS TO SANDY CREEK IS. WE ALSO REDUCED , BECAUSE OF THIS WE HAVE REDUCED THIS TO 320 UNITS VERSUS 435. THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL PARCEL, 128 ACRES.

IN WHICH WE CAN PUT 487,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL.

THAT IS A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS WHAT WE THINK IS, AS

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SO, WE, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A 30 ACRE PARCEL TO THE TOP THAT SAYS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY. WE HAVE 305 UNITS SET TO BE ON THAT OF WHICH 190 ARE NEW. WE TOOK THE 105 ELIMINATED FROM THE TOP AND WE ARE BRINGING THEM DOWN OR I SHOULD SAY 115. THE NUMBER HAS CHANGED A COUPLE OF TIMES. SO, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT? WE HAD KIMBERLY PUT THIS TOGETHER. WE LOOKED THE PUD AS IT IS WHICH IS TABLE 1 A AND THE PUD IN TABLE 1 A GENERATES . I HAD MY GLASSES ON BUT I CANNOT READ THAT. MY APOLOGIES. I THINK IT IS 8000 707. AND THEN, WE HAVE THE NEW PUD AS PROPOSED AND WE END UP ELIMINATING 542 TRIPS PER DAY. BY GETTING RID OF THE INDUSTRIAL WE WILL BE REPLACING IT WITH RESIDENTIAL. WE WILL BE ELIMINATING COMEDIES AND DECREASING TRIPS BY 542. MORE IMPORTANTLY WE WILL GET RID OF THE SEMI TRUCKS, STATE TRUCKS, PACKAGE TRUCKS AND EVERY THING ELSE THAT WOULD BE DRIVING UP AND DOWN SANDY CREEK BOULEVARD THAT THESE, THAT PROBABLY WERE NOT ENVISIONED YEARS AGO. THE SECOND. MAJOR IMPACT AND BENEFIT. WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THE FOOTPRINT, THE TYPICAL HOUSE IN SANDY CREEK WE ARE BUILDING AND THAT WE EXPECT WOULD HAVE A FOOTPRINT OF AVERAGE OF 2700 FOR 46 HOUSES , 3100 FOR 28 HOUSES AND THEN WE LOOK AT, WE THINK THE TOWNHOUSES THAT WE WOULD PUT UP OR THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE A LITTLE LARGER. WE ARE HOPING TO GO TOWNHOUSES. THOSE WOULD PROBABLY BE 1500 OR GREATER SQUARE FEET. BECAUSE IT IS TWO STORIES HE WOULD HAVE 900 SQUARE FEET ON THE FOOTPRINT WITH THE ENDING RESULT WE WOULD ELIMINATE A FOOTPRINT OF 100,000 SQUARE FEET . REMEMBER 128 ACRES. WE ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT THE REVENUE THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY GOING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. AND THE SLIDE SHOWS THE MONEY PAID BY SANDY CREEK PUD IN IMPACT FEES. WE HAD RIDGEWATER CALCULATED.

THE MAIN NUMBER IS THE BOTTOM. THIS WOULD GENERATE OVER 6 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS OF NEW FUNDING. WHAT I DO WANT TO CLEAR IS SANDY CROSSING THAT WE ARE PUTTING UP TO THE NORTH, WE ARE NOT SEEKING IMPACT FEE CREDIT. THERE IS NO CDD. IT IS TOTALLY FUNDED BY US AND BY OUR ABILITY TO GO FORWARD WITH AN ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT ANY BURDEN ON THE

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WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE WILL NOT NEED LARGE PARKING LOTS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL AND WE ALSO DECREASED THE FOOTPRINT BY GOING WITH SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AND GOING WITH THE TWO STORY TOWNHOUSES OR EVEN IF IT WAS TO GO WITH APARTMENTS, YOU'D BE FOUR STORIES. THE 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF FOOTPRINT WOULD DECREASE EVEN MORE.

SO, AS I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU. I HOPE YOU WILL AGREE THAT APPROVING SANDY CROSSING AS SECONDARY ACCESS IS SOMETHING THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO THAT WE NEED TO DO. IT WILL HELP SIGNIFICANTLY, I CANNOT SAY SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY TOOK THE ACTION THAT WILL HELP SIGNIFICANTLY WITH CR 210 WHICH WAS EXPANSION TO SIX LANES. THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TO DO. WHAT WE CAN DO IS BY ADDING THE CROSSROAD WHICH WAS ENVISIONED AND IS EVEN BETTER NOW IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE EXITING THE SUBDIVISION GOING ONTO 95, CURRENTLY THEY GO TO CR 210, DO THE U-TURN AND THEN COME AROUND . OUR DEMOGRAPHIC IS A LITTLE OLDER .

MANY OF THE PEOPLE FEAR THAT YOU TURN ON CR 210. THEY ARE VERY HAPPY. NOT SURE IF ANY ARE HERE, THEY WANT US TO PUT THIS ROAD IN. THEY WANT US , THEY WANT TO GO TO MOON BAY PARKWAY AND USE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO MAKE THE LEFT. THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT AND WHY I HOPE YOU WILL APPROVE THIS IS PEOPLE COMING FROM THE EAST CURRENTLY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE 95 INTERSECTION TO GET INTO THE SUBDIVISION.

THEY WILL NOW BE ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT ONTO MOONBAY PARKWAY.

COME DOWN A QUARTER OF A MILE, HALF A MILE AND MAKE A SECOND RIGHT AND JUST GO RIGHT DOWN SANDY CROSSING AND BE INTO THE SUBDIVISION WE THINK IN BOTH COUNTS IS GOING TO HELP OUT WITH CR 210 YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE A LOT SO I REALLY HOPE YOU WILL DO THAT. THAT I HOPE STANDS OUT ON ITS OWN. FOR RESIDENTS AND WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO WE ALSO HOPE YOU WILL ALLOW US TO ELIMINATE THE INDUSTRIAL AND TO COME OUT WITH A NEW MASTER PLAN. OF COURSE AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

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FURTHER CLARIFICATION. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAS A

QUESTION. >> I HAVE SEVERAL.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST IS CORRECT. I DROVE IN THERE AND IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OR HURRICANE AND ALL THE HOMES HAD A ON ONE ROAD, I CAN BARELY GET IN AND I HAD TO DO A U-TURN. IT IS CRAZY SO I'M SURPRISED THEY ARE DOING AS WELL AS THEY ARE BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT ROADS NEEDS TO BE BILLED TODAY. BESIDES THAT MY QUESTION IS YOU MENTIONED SEMI TRUCKS AND STATE TRUCKS. IS IT NOT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL?

>> IT IS, BUT THAT INCLUDES, I DID BRING IT IN CASE I WAS ASKED A QUESTION, I TOOK THE LITTLE EGGS ARE OUT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL INCLUDING MANUFACTURING ASSEMBLY NOT MANUFACTURING. ASSEMBLY, WAREHOUSING. THAT IS ALL ENTITLED WITHIN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO YOU COULD SEE SIGNIFICANT LARGE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT IF WE WERE TO SELL

TO INDUSTRIAL. >> IF YOU WANTED TO DEVELOP YOU CAN DO THINGS LIKE BOAT STORAGE. IS MIKE ROBISON AVAILABLE? I ASKED EARLIER FOR A LIST OF THINGS YOU COULD PUT THERE. I COULD SEE YOU DOING A LOT OF THINGS FOR HOMEOWNERS THERE. FROM I DON'T KNOW I WAS WAITING FOR MIKE.

>> I DO KNOW AS A FACT THAT BOAT STORAGE AND SUCH IS ALLOWED WITHIN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SCARE THE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE SEMI TRUCKS. YOU COULD HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

INDUSTRIAL. >> A LOT LESS TRAFFIC THAN A

BUNCH OF NEW HOMES . >> THE STUDY SAYS WE WOULD BE

GETTING RID OF 542. >> MIKE ARE YOU AVAILABLE?

BOOK. >> IF YOU WANT TO PLACE IT I HAVE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE UNDER THE PUD AND THEY ARE LIGHT MANUFACTURING. FESTIVAL FOOD PROCESSING PRODUCTION AND PACKAGING. ASSEMBLY PLANTS, WAREHOUSING AND OTHER DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. OFFICE SHOWROOMS AND OTHER SUBSTANTIAL. THAT'S FROM THE LANGUAGE THAT EXISTS.

>> YOU COULD HAVE LITTLE OFFICES AND THINGS? I KNOW THERE'S A STORAGE UNIT. IS THAT POSSIBLE? ANOTHER STORAGE

UNIT? >> I DON'T SEE IS LOOKING AT

THAT AS AN OPTION. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> GOOD MORNING. MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. THIS IS JUST THE LIST, IT EXPANDS ON WHAT HE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. IT DOES NOT LIST ALL THE USES, BUT THIS IS CURRENTLY IN THE CODE.

AGAIN NO CODE CAN LIST EVERY POSSIBLE SCENARIO.

>> ANIMAL HOSPITALS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> YES MA'AM. NOT ALL USES ARE LED BY RIGHT, SOME REQUIRE SPECIAL USE SO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. TO SEE WHAT IS ALLOWED. THAT IS JUST LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

>> THE OTHER THING I HAVE. ALL THE MULTI FAMILY WOULD GO UP AGAINST THE FREEWAY, IS THE FREEWAY GOING TO BE EXPANDED AT SOME POINT? HOUSES WILL BE RIGHT ON 95. ON YOUR MAP.

>> LET ME GO BACK TO THAT. IF WE CAN GET BACK TO THAT.

>> THE FUTURE OF THE FREEWAY, THEY WILL ADD MORE LANES.

RIGHT THERE. >> AS WE LOOK, I HAVE A 95 IS TO THNORTH AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT ABUTS I HAVE A 95 EXCEPT A LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC . 95 IS REALLY WIDE THERE AND THAT IS HEAVILY FORESTED.

>> WHEN I WAS THERE, THE PART THAT HAD A LITTLE FLOODING WAS ALL WATER. I DON'T KNOW, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE FLOODING IN THE AREA, I DO KNOW THEY HAVE FLOODING.

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>> I DON'T REMEMBER DISCUSSING FLOODING IN MY PRESENTATION.

WATER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE

BOARD, PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WERE NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

COULD VOTE I WOULD VOTE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. I VISITED A FRIEND ONCE WHO LIVES IN SANDY CREEK. I CANNOT GET IN. I CANNOT GET OUT, I HAD TO MAKE U-TURNS. THE SECOND WAY IN AND OUT IS UNBELIEVABLY GREAT. THERE ARE PLUSES AND MINUSES. THIS WAS EVALUATED AND THEY VOTED 3-3 IN DENIAL.

BECAUSE THERE ARE PLUSES AND MINUSES CERTAINLY THE SECOND MEANS IN AND NOW IS A BIG PLUS. THE REMOVAL OF INDUSTRIAL IN MY MIND IS A HUGE PLUS. A VERY INCOMPATIBLE USE.

THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS GOING TO BUILD 818 UNITS IF I AM CORRECT. SO THIS SECOND MEANS IN AND OUT WAS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED BASED ON THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION BY CONSTRUCTING 818 UNITS. ON THE NEGATIVE SIDE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THESE. THERE IS NOW A REQUEST TO BUILD 1082 HOMES. THAT WAS NOT REALLY EMPHASIZED HERE BUT THERE IS THE ADDITIONAL 265 HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT. THERE IS A TRADE-OFF WITH INDUSTRIAL BEING GONE. JUST DID WANT TO POINT THAT OUT AND IT WILL COST $4 MILLION TO BUILD THE ROAD BUT THERE WOULD BE THAT COST TO BUILD THE ROAD WITH THE ORIGINAL 818. DID TOUCH BASE ON COUNTY ROAD 210 WHICH WAS THE STICKING POINT FOR THE PZA. AND IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN STAFF HAS PROVIDED A VERY GOOD ANALYSIS SEGMENT BY SEGMENT AND I BELIEVE IT IS 36.1-A IF I'M OKAY WHICH WAS TO BEACH WALK 12 MILLION AND OF COURSE THAT IS PENDING SETTLEMENT WITH THE BEACH WALK DEVELOPER SO THAT WILL BE IMPROVED WHICH LEAVES ONE MORE SEGMENT. 36.1 B WHICH IS $5 MILLION FROM MOON BAY TO I-95, $5 MILLION WHICH IS UNFUNDED AND NOT IMPROVED SO WE HAVE A STICKING POINT AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN WITH PCA. MY APPEAL IS PLEASE , COME ON COUNTY. I THINK WE CAN DO THIS, $5 MILLION TO PROVIDE ALL THESE BENEFITS, PLUS COMPLETE THIS COUNTY ROAD 210.

$5 MILLION AND I THINK IT IS DOABLE. YOUR DECISION CANNOT PUT DECISIONS ON THAT PERHAPS , BUT I HOPE THAT'S DONE . I WOULD VOTE FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU.

SHOULD TABLE THIS. WATER STANDING 95 WILL BE WIDENED , THIS IS NOT PLANNING. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO ASK MR. ROBERSON TO COME EXPLAIN TO US THIS CONCEPT IN THE MINUTES AND THE AGENDA , THIS IDEA OF A TECHNICAL DENIAL. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A TECHNICAL DENIAL ANYWHERE ON EARTH UNTIL I CAME TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE PR PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR YOU ALL COME UP WITH CONCEPTS , TECHNICAL DENIAL.

UNDER ROBERTS RULES A TIE VOTE MEANS IT IS DEFEATED. IF YOU GOOGLE TECHNICAL DENIAL WHERE ON EARTH DOES ANYBODY ELSE USE THE PHRASE? IT IS PROPAGANDA. AS FAR AS WIDENING OF 95 WE WILL SUBJECT RESIDENTS TO THE NOISE AND THE POLLUTION AND THE DIESEL EXHAUST AND ALL THE POLLUTION BASED ON WHAT? IT WAS DENIED RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THE PCA. YET THERE IS NOTHING IN THE PAPER BEFORE YOU THAT SAYS WHAT THE BASIS WAS. SHOULD WE ASK THE PZA TO COME IN HERE AND ASK THE CHAIR TO EXPLAIN THEIR VOTE? SHOULD THERE BE MORE ON YOUR AGENDA THAN JUST TECHNICAL DENIAL? THAT IS BABY TALK, TALK TO US

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ROAD. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT PEOPLE MOVE HERE BECAUSE OF OUR NUMBER ONE RATING FOR SCHOOLS AND I DID NOT HEAR THE PRESENTER TALK ABOUT HOW SCHOOLS WOULD BE IMPACTED.

SOUNDS LIKE BETWEEN 500 OR 600 KIDS AT SCHOOL WITH THE SCHOOL IS AT CAPACITY AND WHAT'S THE PLAN IF THAT INFORMATION IS NOT PROVIDED I ASK THAT YOU TURN IT DOWN. THANK YOU.

ADDRESS ] I AM SPEAKING AS A HOMEOWNER IN SANDY CREEK. I HAVE HAD THE HOME SINCE AUGUST OF 2019. I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE ISSUES. SPEAKING AS A HOMEOWNER NOT AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER EVEN THOUGH IT'S HARD TO TAKE THE HAT OFF. USING EXPERIENCE IN DEVELOPMENT AS A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE AND CONSULTANT. WHAT WE HAVE IS A DEVELOPMENT OF CERTAIN ENTITLEMENT TO DEVELOP . THE RESIDENTS WERE UNAWARE OF THE COMMERCIAL ELEMENT , THE DEVELOPER HAS SPOKEN AT THE MEETING WITH REGARD TO, HE DID NOT REALLY PLAN TO DEVELOP. HE WANTED TO DO MITIGATION. THE FACT REMAINS WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OVER ALL THOSE HOMES THAT ARE COMPLETED THAT IS A NEGATIVE CLOUD FOR ANYONE INTENDING TO SELL THEIR HOME AND PERHAPS RETIRE TO A ASSISTED-LIVING , OR THEY'RE MOVING TO ANOTHER JOB. KEEPING THAT COMMERCIAL ELEMENT IS AN ESSENTIAL REQUEST OF OUR COMMUNITY. NO ONE WAS REALLY FULLY AWARE OF THAT WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOME EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A VAGUE DISCLOSURE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY YOU SAW ON THE MAP THE NORTHERN SECTION OUTSIDE OF THE PUD IS ZONED HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL. THE COMMERCIAL IS THERE IF WE WANT MIXED-USE LOCATED FOR APPROPRIATELY CLOSE TO COUNTY ROAD 210. SO WE ASKED TODAY TO CONSIDER ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT A HOME IN THERE AND A DEVELOPER WILLING TO REMOVE THE COMMERCIAL ELEMENT. SECONDARY ACCESS IS OBVIOUSLY A NO-BRAINER. I AM THE ONE WHO ASKED FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS. IT WOULD LIKELY BE 14 TO 24 MONTHS BEFORE THEY BUILD THE ROAD. SO WE WILL BE SUFFERING UNTIL THEY BUILD IT. THAT LEAVES ME TO MY LAST REQUEST UNRELATED TO THIS MAJOR CHANGE TO REQUEST COUNTY STAFF TO PUT AT APPROXIMATELY SANDY CREEK

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>> NEIGHBORS MOVING IN DOWN THE STREET. I THINK THE HOUSES ARE A GREAT CHANGE VERSUS THE COMMERCIAL. MY QUESTION, I WANT TO THANK FOR THE GOOD PRESENTATION. MY ACTUAL QUESTION IS , TO 10 IS BEING IMPROVED, BUT AS THE LIGHTS GO IN WHICH ARE A BIG HELP, WE ARE NOT CLOSING THE U-TURN AND THE LEFT-HAND TURN LANES THAT DON'T HAVE LIGHTS. WE ARE LEAVING THEM OPEN. WE HAVE A TRUCK STOP AT THE CORNER AT THE CORNER WITH THE ENTRANCE OF 95 NORTH WHERE TRUCKS ARE ENTERING TO 10 FROM THE TRUCKSTOP AND BLOCKING TRAFFIC. IT HAS TAKEN ME WITHOUT THE PROBLEM TO GET MY DEVELOPER TO FIX 15 OR 20 MINUTES TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE LIGHTS AND GET ON 95 N. JUST BECAUSE THE TRUCK IS GETTING OUT. THAT HAS TO BE WE HAVE LIGHTS LET'S HAVE THE U-TURNS AND ALL THE TURNS OUT THE LIGHTS AND GET RID OF THE CROSSING ACROSS THE BUSY ROAD. LET'S SHUT DOWN SOME OF THE ENTRANCE AND EXITS FROM WHAT'S THERE AND REDIRECT THEM. MAY BE THE TRUCKSTOP, THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING THAT LOOPS BACK TO THE LIGHT AT THE HOSPITAL. LET'S REDIRECT THE TRAFFIC AND STUFF SO IT FLOWS VERSUS CREATING TRAFFIC JAMS AND POTENTIAL ACCIDENTS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID AND WHAT MY NEIGHBOR SAID, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND TO MEET IS SCARY JUST DRIVING THROUGH IT, DRIVING THROUGH NORTHBOUND 95 AND THEN NEXT TO IT GIVE TO TURN INTO A ROAD. PEOPLE WERE TRUCKS OR PEOPLE AT THE LIGHT THEY DON'T THEY STOP AND THEY TURN BUT THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE TURNING FROM SANDY CREEK ROAD AT THE SAME TIME. SO THERE'S ALMOST A LOT OF ACCIDENTS ALL THE TIME. MAYBE THE TEAM COULD COME UP WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES FOR THAT TO 10 SECTION AND TO REDIRECT THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS FOR THE RETAIL OFF OF 210 INTO A MAY BE ROAD BEHIND THEM OR SOMETHING. OR MAYBE A LIGHT TO REMOVE THE TRAFFIC TO WE HAVE BUILT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ACCENTS OR IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPROVAL COULD BE CONDITIONAL I GUESS OR SUBJECT TO A SUGGESTION ON HOW TO REROUTE TRAFFIC. THANK YOU.

PLEASE. YOUR DOCUMENTS. AND THIS PROPOSED PROJECT YOUR INFORMATION SHOWS CURRENTLY OPERATING INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY OPERATING 67.5 % CAPACITY AND 160% OF CAPACITY BASED ON TOTAL COMMITTED TRAFFIC. DOWN HERE ST.

FRANCIS ROAD 228% OF CAPACITY BASED ON TRAFFIC.

>> WE ARE STILL ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

>> OH, I AM IN THE WRONG PLACE. SORRY REGARDING THE ISSUE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. APPARENTLY THE PZA HAS DECLINED OR HAS VOTED NO. I URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF YOUR ADVISORY BOARD UNFORTUNATELY YOU DON'T HAVE A HISTORY OF

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FOLLOWING UP WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAID. MR. CAMPBELL I BELIEVE HIS NAME WAS. WHO IS ACTUALLY A HOMEOWNER. I WISH THERE WERE MORE HOMEOWNERS FOR THIS AREA THAT CAME IN HERE. MY QUESTION IS BASICALLY THE SAME. OF THE BOARD CANNOT ANSWER I WOULD LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE AS THE PUBLIC ASK QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE NO ANSWERS. FIRST IS WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE DECEMBER 7TH PZA MEETING? NUMBER TWO WHY DID THREE MEMBERS OF THE PZA VOTE TO DENY AND CAN ANY BOARD MEMBERS ANSWER THOSE AND I AM CONFUSED. I KEEP LISTENING AND CURRENTLY THEY WILL REMOVE ALL THE ALLOWED INDUSTRIAL ENTITLEMENTS AND THEN YOU TALK SOME MORE AND MR. ROBISON COMES UP. IS IT COMMERCIAL SOMEPLACE? IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY INDUSTRIAL IN THE AREA? IS THERE INDUSTRIAL, NOT THE BIG STUFF OR WHATEVER THE BIG STUFF IS, BUT WHENEVER MR. ROBERSON CAME UP TO READ THAT ONE CAN BE IN THERE? CAN THEY STORE RVS OR BOATS OR WHATEVER ELSE CAN BE PUT IN THIS AS NOT INDUSTRIAL BUT COMMERCIAL? I DO APPRECIATE MR. CAMPBELL , TOO BAD I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WANTED TO SAY. I COULD HAVE FINISHED HIS COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY GOOD. THIS SHOULD BE DENIED. THANKS.

ADDRESS ] AND I DID NOT INTEND TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE BUT I WAS AT THE TRENTO MEETING SERVING AS A MEMBER I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF ISSUES. THIS WAS A HARD PROJECT TO DENY TO BE HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE I THINK IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE SECOND ROADWAY BE BUILT. IT WAS REQUIRED IN 2005 AND IT WAS A CONDITION OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO GO ON FURTHER.

IT IS A TERRIFYING THING TO DRIVE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW ON 210 THEIR TRUCKSTOP ACROSS THE STREET.

PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT SEVERELY IMPACTED ROADWAY SEGMENT WITH THE ADDITION OF HOUSES AS THEY PULLED THE INDUSTRIAL AND I DID NOT HEAR THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE INCREASING AND THE FACT ONE SO THE PRESENTATION TODAY IT LOOK LIKE THERE WOULD BE A DECREASE WHICH IS GOOD TO ME. I THOUGHT MAYBE THEY MADE A CHANGE. MAYBE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SO MANY HOMES, IF YOU KEPT WITHIN THE 818 UNITS I COULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED THE SECOND ROAD. I THINK THAT I DID ASK THE PRESENTER AND HE SAID IT IS 1082 SO THEY ARE INCREASING 164. 1600 SOME ODD UNITS IN THE GENERAL AREA ARE APPROVED TO BE BUILT RIGHT NOW IN OTHER PUD'S AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT A CONDITION UPON THIS TO ALLOW THE ROADWAY SEGMENT TO GO THROUGH. UNDERSTAND THE CAPTURE AND IT'S GREAT I LIKE THAT PART. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, WELL-DESIGNED. I LIKE THE WITH A CONSERVATION AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH LANDSCAPE, THAT IS GOOD AND THERE IS A HUGE WOODED AREA BETWEEN THAT CUL-DE-SAC AND 95.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE. IF YOU COULD HAVE IT BE TIERED, TO COINCIDE WITH THE BUILDING OF THE ADDITIONAL UNITS, WITH THE 210 ROADWAY SEGMENT BEING COMPLETED OR LEAST WELL ON ITS WAY SO THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT IN SUCH A TOUGH SITUATION. THEY NEED THE EXIT. UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER

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>> THANK YOU MA'AM.

ADDRESS ] I DO FAVOR THE SECOND EXIT NEEDED SORELY FOR A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME, THERE WERE ISSUES WERE NUMEROUS ACCIDENTS AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE PARKWAY ENTERS 210 AND IT IS A NIGHTMARE GETTING OUT. IT IS A NIGHTMARE GETTING IN SO THAT IS NEEDED. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AND ONE POINT WAS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE WATER AND THE FLOODING. I MOVED INTO THE AREA EARLY 2016 AND A COUPLE YEARS LATER MAJOR OR NOT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL STORM. AS A RESULT OF THE CREEK GOING EAST AND SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED NEW EXIT FLOODED AND WE COULD NOT LEAVE THE AREA FOR FOUR DAYS. I DON'T KNOW , WHEN I SAW THE GRAPHIC THAT SHOWED THE PATHWAY OF THE NEW EXIT , IF THAT'S APPROACHING THE WATER CONTAINMENT AREAS. IF THERE IS DISCUSSION OR ANALYSIS WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO THE STREAM THAT PASSES UNDER SANDY CREEK PARKWAY AND WILL THAT CAUSE MORE FLYING WITH LESSER RAINFALL AMOUNTS? HAS ANYONE LOOKED INTO THAT? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO BE TRAPPED IN THE AREA. ALSO I APPRECIATE THE ACCESS AT THE ROUNDABOUT ON SANDY CREEK PARKWAY. I SEE ONE WAY WHICH SERVES PURPOSES ONE TO REDUCE SPEED AND ALSO TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF THE ROAD WITH THAT LITTLE EXIT SHOWN TO THE NORTH AND ALSO ONE COMPETING WITH A STOP SIGN AND THE CONDITION THAT PREVENTS 210 EASILY MAYBE THIS OCCURRING AGAIN WHEN I TRIED TO GET ON THE ROAD. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR? NO SIR.

>> NO SIR, PUBLIC COMMENT NO SIR.

>> NO SIR. >> SIR, PLEASE SIT DOWN.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER FOUR? >> SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. SITE BACK TO THE BOARD. I HAVE A QUESTION SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME THIS DEVELOPER HAD OBLIGATION FOR SECOND ACCESS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE VOTED. I AM HEARING OTHER MAY BE FINANCIAL CONCERNS?

>> MIKE ROBBERSON. REGARDLESS OF FINANCIAL CONCERNS, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE LAST MODIFICATION TO THIS , HE DID LIST IT. SHOULD THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING , INDUSTRIAL OR SHOULD YOU APPROVE THIS AS WRITTEN, THEIR REQUIRED TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. THAT'S A COMMITMENT AND IT SAYS IT SHALL BE DONE BEFORE REMOVAL OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS SO THAT HAS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED PRIOR TO WHATEVER IT IS UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES AT THE MEETING.

>> OKAY THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> OKAY I WAS PREPARED . >> SOMEBODY ASKED THE QUESTION

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IT WON'T BE QUICK TO PUT THE ROAD AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A LAKE IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY TO DEAL WITH. THE MAIN THING TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT IS WHAT HAS CHANGED. EVEN IF THAT HAD NOT CHANGED THAT DOES NOT GET RID OF THE NECESSITY TO GET PEOPLE TO MOON BAY PARKWAY SO THEY CAN MAKE A LEFT. THAT IS A NECESSITY. THE POINT THAT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST BROUGHT TO ME IS WHAT YOU PUT THE ROAD THROUGH, IF YOU GOT DENIED ? THAT'S WHY I SAY THIS IS A TWO LEG IT PRESENTATION. THE FIRST ONE IS WE WANT YOU TO APPROVE THE ROAD BUT WHEN YOU APPROVE THE ROAD, IT TRIGGERS THE ABILITY TO GO OVER 383. WHICH MEANS WE COULD PUT IN 435 APARTMENTS AND WE CAN LOOK TO SELL THE INDUSTRIAL. OKAY SO THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. DO NOT WANT TO PUT IN 487,000 INDUSTRIAL. I MEAN SERIOUSLY, THERE IS NO ONE HERE AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY SAW ME AT THE PZA.

WE PROMISED , THIS IS THE SAME PRESENTATION AND THE PEOPLE WERE HAPPY. THEY WOULD BE HAPPY WE WOULD GET RID OF THE INDUSTRIAL. IF YOU SAY YOU WANT TO LEAVE ALL THE PEW DEALING WITH THE SAME EXCEPT WE WOULD APPROVE THE ROAD AND IF WE GET RID OF THAT REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD BE FINE BUT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO GET RID OF THE INDUSTRIAL. WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT IN ONE SWOOP. IF THE INDUSTRIAL GETS PUSHED BACK TO A LATER DATE, I DON'T SEE THE REASON TO DO THAT. I THINK WE WILL HAVE 360 SCREAMING PEOPLE , BUT WE TRIED TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAS CHANGED. THE OTHER THING THAT WAS INTERESTING IS THE SEGMENT IN FRONT OF US TALKING ABOUT $5 MILLION NEEDED TO PROVE IT. PER MY CALCULATIONS, THIS PUD WOULD GENERATE OVER $6.5 MILLION. I UNDERSTAND THE MONEY CAN BE USED ANYWHERE YOU WANT. IT CAN GO TO OTHER SEGMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY. BUT THE MONEY WILL BE THERE AND AGAIN WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING THIS ALL OF THIS IN, IT WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PUBLIC. WE ARE DOING IT ON OUR DIME. THANK YOU ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONER YOU WANT TO

MAKE A MOTION OR A QUESTION? >> A QUICK QUESTION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE OPPORTUNITIES. I OFTEN HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY ARE CONCERN ABOUT SCHOOLS. HAS THERE BEEN CONVERSATION REGARDING THAT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH REGARDING ADDING MORE HOMES?

>> WE HAVE IMPACT FEES AND THERE WOULD BE CONCURRENCY DETERMINATION AND THEN AT THAT POINT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WILL TAKE THE FORMULAS AND YOU CAN SAY I WOULD CONTRIBUTE TWO OR 3 MILLION, WHATEVER THE DOLLAR IS FOR THAT TYPE OF , THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD BE DOING

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JOB. >> THANK YOU, THROUGH THE CHAIR TO MISS ANDREWS. WE DISCUSSED THIS WHEN WE HAD A JOINT MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES GET TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE THEY ARE APPROVED OR BUILT RIGHT? PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

>> YOU ARE CORRECT. >> THE DISTRICT CAN APPROVE OR DENY THE PROJECTS BASED ON CAPACITY OR ANY ISSUES

INVOLVED? >> THEIR INVOLVEMENT IS AT THE POINT OF APPROVING OR DENYING THE PROPORTION OF SHEER AGREEMENT AND THAT'S PRIOR BEFORE YOU CAN HEAR THE ITEM.

DISCUSSING, THANK YOU THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> OKAY. >> LET ME JUMP IN. I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE FLOODING ISSUE. THE GENTLEMAN, THE RESIDENT WHO SPOKE AND RACED THE QUESTION IN THE PURPLE SHIRT. NEVERTHELESS, THE FLOODING ISSUES. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU HAVE WATER MANAGEMENT PERMITS IN HAND BEFORE THE SECOND ACCESS. I WOULD POINT OUT HOPEFULLY THAT ADDRESSES IN MY OLD WORLD WATER MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE A PRE-AND POST REQUIREMENT. YOU CANNOT DISCHARGE MORE WATER AFTER CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT THAN WHAT'S DISCHARGE OFF THE PROPERTY BEFORE. YOU HAVE RETENTION PONDS FOR BOTH FLOOD COMPENSATION AND TREATMENT. THAT ISSUE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED WITH WATER MANAGEMENT AND WITH THAT SAID, THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE I LISTEN TO ALL THE COMMENTS AND ALL THE ADVOCATES AND I HAVE TO AGREE AT THAT POINT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOTLIGHT. IT WAS SUMMED UP FOR ME WHAT I THINK IS A NET POSITIVE BENEFIT GOING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT SAID I WILL MAKE A MOTION. THAT MOTION IS TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2024 APPROVING MAJOR MOD 2022-1273 PUD BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT BUT I WILL HAVE A QUESTION.

>> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. FOR THE DISCUSSION?

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. TO THE APPLICANT A QUESTION. WE HAVE SEEN SOME OTHER DEVELOPERS. WE HAVE DISCUSSED TRAFFIC AT LENGTH AND IT IS TOP OF MIND FOR MANY OF US.

MANY OF US YOU WILL BE WORKING WITH WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DELAY THE FIRST CO OF THE NEW UNITS UNTIL THE SIX LANE IS FINISHED AND THE SECOND ENTRANCE IS ACTIVATED?

>> YES, I HAVE SOME PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR THAT. WE HAVE A PROVISION WITHIN THE TEXT THAT SAYS VEHICULAR ACCESS.

THE FIRST CONDITION GOING BEYOND 383 IS THAT THE ROAD AT SANDY CROSSING IS COMPLETE. THAT IS IN THE TEXT LANGUAG.

RIGHT AFTER THAT I HAD SOME LANGUAGE THAT WAS A IN THE EARLIER COMPLETION OF THE SIX IN OTHER WORDS WE CANNOT GO ABOVE 383 UNTIL AND THE EARLIER OF COMPLETION OF THE SIX LANE EXPANSION OF CR 210 FROM TRINITY WAY TO BEACH WALK BOULEVARD OR 18 MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVING THIS MODIFICATION MAJOR MOD.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN 18 MONTHS, BUT IF THE SEGMENT IS DONE BEFORE 18 MONTHS WE WANT TO GET IT. SO WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT AND WE COULD STICK THAT LANGUAGE, I COULD SEND IT TO RIGHT NOW OR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT.

>> WE ARE IN A JUDICIAL HEARING JUST TO THE CHAIR WERE TO ASK

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>> AS LONG AS THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE MOTION APPROVING THE

ITEM. >> RESPECTFULLY WOULD YOU BE

WILLING TO AMEND THE MOTION? >> I WILL AMEND TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE TO HELP REGARDING THE TIMING REGARDING THE CEOS.

[Public Comment is Time Certain from 11:30 AM - 12:00 PM, or at the conclusion of the Regular Agenda, whichever occurs first.]

>> I WILL SECOND THE AMENDED.

>> MOTION AND SECOND PLEASE VOTE. OKAY THAT PASSES 4-1.

CONFEDERATIONS. THAT WILL TAKE US INTO TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT 11:35 AFTER WHICH WE WILL ADJOURN AT 1205 FOR THE BOARD

TO GO TO LUNCH. >> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, ON MATTERS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA REGULAR 10 ITEMS HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ANY PERSON WISHING TO JUST THE BOARD TO COME TO THE PODIUM STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS. IS PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE QUORUM, ADDRESS, TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE DEMAND FOR RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO PERSON MAY JUST THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS A MARKS MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF COMMENTS AND FINALLY ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THAT TO THE STAFF TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE OFFICIAL

PUBLIC RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. NAME AND ADDRESS ] MY PRESENTATION THIS MORNING IS PREPARATION FOR NUCLEAR TERRORISM. TODAY THERE ARE EIGHT COUNTRIES THAT WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY THAT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAPABILITY. THEY ARE LISTED HERE. I WILL NOT DESCRIBE THAT FOR YOU. ISRAEL HAS THE CAPABILITY, BUT HAS NOT PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED IT. IRAN IS ON THE PATH TO DEVELOP A NUCLEAR WEAPON CAPABILITY. ACCORDING TO A RECENT ARTICLE IN THE JERUSALEM POST, IRAN , THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD ONCE A NUCLEAR WEAPON CAPABILITY TO DESTROY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , INDIVIDUAL CITIES. WE WANT TO LEAVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CITIZENS VULNERABLE TO NUCLEAR TERRORISM? IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT OTHERS WOULD CONSIDER THE USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS A MEANS OF WAR AND USED BY UNDERCOVER TERRORISTS.

WITH TODAY'S BORDERS THAT ARE OPEN WE HAVE TO BE ALERT. OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PROVIDE PROTECTION TO OUR CITIZENS FOR THIS EVENT. THE RADIATION EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE CENTER OUT OF OAK RIDGE, TENNESSEE HAS DEVELOPED SEVERAL SCENARIOS.

ONE OF WHICH COULD BE 4 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE PATH OF NUCLEAR FALLOUT WITH APPROXIMATELY 1 MILLION CASUALTIES AND ACCUSED TO DEATH DEPENDING ON THE SCENARIO. 50% BURNS OF AN ESTIMATED 64,000 PEOPLE WHO WOULD SURVIVE, THEY WOULD SUFFER FROM ACUTE RADIATION DOSAGE IS . I'M SUGGESTING YOU REQUEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR TO SUBMIT A REPORT TO YOU IN DETAIL ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY THE AGENCY IS DOING TO PREPARE FOR A NUCLEAR TERRORISM EVENT OR EVEN CONSIDER A NUCLEAR ATTACK. WHAT SPECIFIC MEASURES ARE BEING TAKEN TO TRAIN HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL STAFF AND THOSE RESPONSIBLE TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF RADIATION ACCIDENTS AND THE PUBLIC. WHAT TYPE OF STOCKPILING OF SUPPLIES MEDICAL AND FOOD SUPPLIES ARE BEING CORE NEEDED TO RESPOND TO SUCH EVENT. WHAT MEASURES ARE IN PLACE TO HELP THE PUBLIC TO BE PROTECTED FROM NUCLEAR FALLOUT BOTH IN PUBLIC FACILITIES AND HOME SHELTERS. HAS THERE BEEN ANY ORDINATION WITH STATE DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND NEIGHBORING COUNTIES ON THIS POTENTIAL EVENT . AS PART OF YOUR RESPONSE ABILITY FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY I AM REQUESTING YOU REQUEST A REPORT FROM THE EMERGENCY COORDINATOR. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, PEOPLE THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER OUT THERE ABOUT ETHICS

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TO USE. I WAS GOING TO YIELD , SO SORRY I STOOD ON THAT.

NAME AND ADDRESS ] I DO WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT ATTAINABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING. I WANTED AND I KNOW YOU WANT IT, HOW DO WE GET IT? IT IS A BIG ISSUE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS WEIGHED IN THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED FOUR SELECT LARGE EMPLOYERS YOU CAN SEE THAT, THE DEFICIT TODAY AND FUTURE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET 11,050 UNITS. THAT NUMBER IS BIGGER SO THE QUESTION IS WHERE WILL THEY GO, HOW WILL WE GET THEM , IS IT ENOUGH WHERE DO WE PUT MORE THE COUNTY HAS OPENED THE DOOR, SORT OF THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH A WORKFORCE HOUSING ZONING DISTRICT. IT PROVIDES INCENTIVE TO DEVELOPERS LARGE AND SMALL TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 30% OF WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH PROPOSALS. WHEN I SEE THE DOORS OPEN EVERYWHERE SORT OF, THE COMPANY HENCE A PLAN, THIS ENCUMBRANCE OF PLAN SAYS IT IS ALL ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPATIBILITY. WE CANNOT JUST CRAM 30% WORKFORCE ANYWHERE WE WANT IT HAS TO FIT AND BE RIGHT. WE WANT IT LET'S MAKE IT RIGHT. WE HAVE SOME SMALL AND MODERATE DEVELOPERS COMING FORWARD. YOU CAN SEE THE LIST THERE WITH MARKET RATE HOUSING 853 WITH WORKFORCE HOUSING, 365 AND THAT'S GREAT, I'M GLAD THEY'RE COMING FORWARD. BUT REMEMBER IT IS ALL ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPATIBILITY, YOU WILL REVIEW PROJECTS, MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, 365 IS GOOD BUT NOT GUARANTEED. IF IT IS NOT ENOUGH HOW DO WE GET TO 11,000 I CALL THIS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. YOU CAN GO BACK AND GRAB THESE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT LARGE DEVELOPERS, 39,000 MARKET RATE HOUSING, 30% WOULD HAVE BEEN 12,000. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT HAD TO BE 30%, BUT THOSE ARE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES. WE WILL HAVE OTHER BIG DEVELOPMENTS COMING FORWARD. I JUST LOOK AT THE BIG ZERO THERE AND I SHAKE MY HEAD HOW DO WE GET THERE HOW IS THE CONFERENCE IF OUTLINED PLAN BUT IT IS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE LOOK TO REVISE COMPANY INTO PLANNING, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET'S ENCOURAGE ANTICIPATION BY ALL.

LET'S NOT HAVE ANYMORE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES, LET'S NOT HAVE ANY BIG PROJECTS THAT COULD HAVE COME FORWARD AND SANDY CREEK IS ONE OF THOSE. WE DID ASK THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE ANSWER WAS NO. WE NEED TO GET IT. THANK YOU.

>> CELEBRATED THE BIRTH OF JESUS THE CITY RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM SOMEONE TO PERFORM A SATANIC INVOCATION AT A COMMISSION MEETING. IN 2014 THE SUPREMES COURT SAID INDICATION HAD TO BE OPEN EVERYONE. JESUS SAID AWAY WITH YOU SATAN YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD AND HIM ONLY YOU SHALL SERVE AND THE DEVIL LEFT AT JANUARY 8TH 2024 SAINT AUGUSTINE CITY COMMISSION MEETING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS VOTED TO WRITE A RESOLUTION TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE INSTEAD OF INDICATION. JESUS IS THE WAY OF THE TRUTH AND

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WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FACTS ARE AND THAT IS VERY DISRESPECTFUL IN MY OPINION. AND I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER UNLESS YOU WANT TO ANSWER SOMEBODY AND I FEEL LIKE THE DECORUM IN THESE MEETINGS ARE VERY DISRESPECTFUL FROM THIS BOARD TO THE PUBLIC THAT TAKE THEIR TIME TO COME IN HERE. IF THEY ARE OVER A SECOND OR TWO, TO JUMP IN AND TELL THEM THEY CAN'T SPEAK WHENEVER YOU ALLOW CERTAIN PEOPLE TO GET AWAY WITH SPEAKING A SECOND OR THIRD TIME. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THAT BUT GO BACK AND LISTEN TO ALL THESE MEETINGS. I DON'T NEED TO GET UP HERE AND LIE.

MIND FOR THE DISPLAY OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY

>> NAME AND ADDRESS? >> IT IS OBVIOUS TO ME.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD?

>> SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS FORGET THEIR PLACE IN THIS POWER STRUCTURE WITH PERSONAL ADVOCATES AND PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED MISREPRESENTATION TO RESIDENTS. WHEN ALL THE COMMISSIONER JOSEPH DELIBERATELY FAILED TO INVESTIGATE AN EVENT OF CONDEMNATION WITH PERMANENT DAMAGE CAUSED BY A BLATANT PUBLIC FRAUD HAS PROVEN REPEATEDLY TO YOU FOR THE LAST 16 MONTHS THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE ORNAMENTAL CHAIN OF COMMAND. MY DISTRICT 3 COMMISSIONER IS A RECENT DESANTIS IMPLANT INTO THE LARGE AND OBVIOUSLY UNFELT SHOES OF THE LAKE COMMISSION OF WALDRON. SPEC AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. COMMENT ADDRESS TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS.

>> THESE ARE ALL ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD FACT AND OPINION.

UNLIKE , COMMISSIONER IS NEGLIGENT AS DEVASTATED BY HIS TOTAL SILENCE AND INACTION TO MY SEVERAL DOCUMENTED PLEA FOR RIFLE AND OVER TO HELP. LET ME HIGHLIGHT THE SOURCE OF THIS DISTRESS. SHOWN IS A SECTION OF MY 175 FOOT THAT I VALUED FOR ITS MAINTENANCE-FREE NATURAL SETTING EFFECTIVE EROSION CONTROL OF STEEP BANKING EXTENSIVE YOUR PRIVACY AND EVEN ROAD NOISE REDUCTION. THAT IS HOW THE PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AFTER THE SIDEWALKS WERE LAID IN.

PROJECT MANAGER PERSONALLY STAKED OUT SERIOUSLY REDUCE PROPERTY ACCESS LIMITS THAT I HAD DEMANDED. THE NEW RESTRICTIONS ALLOWED AMPLE ROOM TO BUILD CONCRETE POURING SPECIFICALLY REQUESTING 42 AFFECTED RESIDENTS BY COUNTY OFFICIALS DURING AN INITIAL PUBLIC MEETING HELD AT THE LOCAL THEATER. THIS SCREAMS FRAUD ALL BY ITSELF.

TO BLAME FOR PERMANENT DAMAGES FROM UNSUPERVISED ACTIONS BY SUBCONTRACTORS. THEY HAD ALL FAILED RECKLESSLY TO PERFORM

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MINUTES. >> HELLO. I AM HERE IN RESPONSE , I AM HERE TO ADD SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TO THE PREVIOUS DECEMBER 5TH MEETING WHEN I CAME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD WITH A QUICK ST. AUGUSTINE THE SOUTH WATERFRONT PROPERTY. THE DOCUMENTS THAT I HAVE TODAY ARE FROM THE SECRETARY IN 1970 . TO THE SAINT AUGUSTINE INCORPORATED PRESIDENT , THE PURPOSE OF THIS DOCUMENT IS THE DATE AND TO SHOW THERE WAS STILL CONVERSATION BETWEEN SAINT AUGUSTINE IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE DEVELOPER IN 1970. ALSO INCLUDED IS A WHO'S WHO AND WHAT WE DO FOR ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH MORE THAN LIKELY FROM MS. SHARP WHERE SHE LETS EVERYONE KNOW WHO HOLDS THE DEED TO THE PARKWAY AND IT IN FACT IS THE ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION NOT ST. JOHNS COUNTY OR ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS AND REC. WE DO NOT WANT THIS TRAIL IN OUR BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE. THANK YOU.

RETIRED VETERINARIAN. I PRACTICED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE 43 YEARS, RETIRED IN 2020. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN ST.

AUGUSTINE SOUTH IN OUR HOME SINCE 1988, 36 YEARS. WE RAISED OUR THREE CHILDREN THERE AND WE MOVED THERE BECAUSE OF THE RURAL NATURE OF ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH WITH A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE WATERWAY. I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE AT LEAST 300 OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE SIGNED A PETITION RECENTLY OPPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PROPERTY . I AM CERTAINLY IN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. I THINK THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AND IT IS WHAT WE HAVE ENJOYED IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH FOR 70 YEARS. IF WE DON'T NEED ANY IMPROVEMENTS, I'M NOT SURE ANY IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO WHAT WE ENJOY NOW. A NATURAL AND BEAUTIFUL SPACE. A VIEW OF INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY THAT ALSO SERVES AS A LOVER FOR ALL SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN THE COMMUNITY. RUNOFF FROM OUR YARDS AND WE ALL MOVED THERE BECAUSE IT IS PEACEFUL AND A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD CENTRALLY LOCATED. AND SIMPLY PUT WE DON'T WANT ANY CHANGE, NOTHING IS BROKEN WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING FIXED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY INCENTIVE IS TO TRY TO DEVELOP AS A PARK. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A RESPONSE FROM THE COUNTY AS FAR AS THIS OWNERSHIP QUESTION. NOT DEMANDING IMMEDIATELY BUT I WOULD LIKE A TIMELY RESPONSE.

TO OUR CLAIM OF OWNERSHIP.

ADDRESS ] I AM HERE TO OPPOSE THIS TRAIL FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. I WAS HERE IN DECEMBER AND I SHOWED YOU THE FLOODING, 2 1/2 FEET OF FLOODING IN SOME AREAS. I DID SOME MATH. IT'S NOT MY STRONG POINT, BUT YOU'RE GETTING

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WHEN IT IS ALL DONE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLAN FOR THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE FOR TREES, SEPTIC, WATER QUALITY , EVERYTHING. AT THAT POINT YOU WILL BE GIVING ME FIVE DOLLARS AND GETTING NOTHING BACK. YOU WILL AT SOME POINT RUN FOR REELECTION AND YOU WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY WE WENT THROUGH ALL THIS MONEY TO BUILD A PAVED TRAIL OVERLAND THAT DID NOT HAVE OVER TWO INCHES OF FLOODING WE HAVE TWO AND HALF FEET OF FLOODING AND I HAVE THE PICTURES TO PROVE IT. THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE TREES AND THE DAMAGE AND THE PINE TREES WHILE THE EAGLE NESTING SYSTEM IS OCTOBER 15TH UNTIL MAY 15 SO YOU CANNOT START THE TRAIL UNTIL AFTER MAY 15TH WHICH WILL HAVE TWO WEEKS BEFORE YOU ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET HIT WITH A NOR'EASTER, TROPICAL STORM, HURRICANE, 2 1/2 FEET OF FLOODING. HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN ALL THE MONEY GETTING WASHED INTO THE RIVER.

AND WILL DEP FINE YOU FOR THE ASPHALT IN THE RIVER. I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE THE PICTURES TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM IF THEY WANT TO. I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS THIS TRAIL AND I'M NOT A NEGATIVE NANCY. I KNOW I SOUND LIKE IT BUT I'M NOT. I THINK THERE IS REALLY GOOD SOLID PLANS THAT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER TO PUT THIS ADA TRAIL SOMEWHERE WHERE WILL BE A HOME LINE. IN MY MIND THAT WOULD BE FISH ISLAND THERE WAS A MOVIE OUT A LONG TIME AGO SAYING IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME IF YOU BUILD A ADA TRAIL THEY WILL COME GO ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY IN THE NICE WEATHER, THERE'S NO PARKING, THERE IS NO HANDICAP PARKING, THERE'S NO RESTROOMS, THERE IS NOTHING. SO, PULL THIS OUT, PUT IT BACK IN THE TRASH BIN AND LET'S REAPPLY FOR A GRANT AND PUT THIS ON FISH ISLAND WITH A NEW LOCATION BEHIND THE HOME DEPOT . YOU CAN ADD WATER TAXIS TO DOWNTOWN, COLLECT FEES FROM PARKING METERS, FROM USING THE WATER TAXI, YOU CAN HAVE A VISITOR CENTER, YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE TRIMMINGS. TRYING TO SQUEEZE THIS INTO A LITTLE NARROW THINK IS FOOLISH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS SEAN STREICHER OF CONNECTIVITY . EVERY GOLF CART -- ONE LESS CAR ON THE ROAD. FOR THE CONSIDERATION , SECOND, ISSUE A WRITTEN REQUEST FROM THE LOCAL LEVEL TO REVIEW THE CROSSINGS.

THIRD, COORDINATION BETWEEN DISTRICT MAINTE.

THE PROPOSAL CAN BE COMPLETED , BUT TODAY, WE CAN START THE PROCESS IN EVALUATING -- DISCRETIONARY MONEY . THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

>> THIRD DOCUMENT IS A MAP , OUTLINING THE AREAS . FOURTH

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JUDY SPIEGEL. I LEAVE AT 101 GREENSBORO LANE AND I AM HERE TO OFFER ENCOURAGEMENT . I HAVE SPENT SEVERAL DAYS FOR OUR COUNTY LEADERS WHO I ADMIRE AND RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. NOT GOING TO CHASTISE ANYONE OR SHAME ANYONE GOD GAVE US ALL FREE WILL. WE GET TO CHOOSE HOW TO BEHAVE. WE GET TO CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IN GOD OR NOT BELIEVING GOD. AND I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL THAT HE GAVE US THAT FREE WILL. HE DOESN'T WANT A BUNCH OF AUTOMATONS GOING ABOUT JUST DOING EXACTLY WHAT BY A LIST OF RULES . IT'S ABOUT RELATIONSHIP BUT I DO VALUE MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD GOD AS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN MY LIFE AND I BELIEVE THAT HE HAS A VERY GOOD PLAN FOR EACH ONE OF US AND FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK THAT, AS A BELIEVER OF JESUS CHRIST, ONE OF OUR COMMANDS IS TO CARRY HIM INTO EVERY CONVERSATION THAT WE ARE IN AND TO EVERY ROOM THAT WE ARE IN, AND EVERY SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN AND I THINK THAT, FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE THAT HE GAVE AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TO HELP US TO WALK OUT WHAT HE REPRESENTED HERE ON EARTH, FORGIVENESS, LOVING ONE ANOTHER, RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS , AND ABILITY TO LOOK ANY PERSON IN THE EYE AND ADMIRE THEM AND ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR EXISTENCE, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE POINT COUNTS, THAT THEIR WORDS MATTER, I THINK THAT FORGIVENESS IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL IN CREATING A CULTURE THAT VALUES AND LOVES ONE ANOTHER AND I THINK , AS I SAID MANY TIMES APPEAR BEFORE, THAT IS LACKING IN OUR WORLD THESE DAYS. I THINK THAT THOSE OF US WHO DESIRE TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER ARE SORT OF MANTLED WITH DOING THAT, WITH CARRYING THAT SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL. YOU ARE AMAZING PEOPLE. I KNOW EACH ONE OF YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU TO BE UP HERE.

I KNOW THAT EACH ONE OF YOU WANT THE BEST FOR THIS COUNTY.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE COUNTY, TAKE AWAY FROM ANYONE'S FROM THE OPINION, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE'S OPINION IS LISTEN TO AND RESPECTED AND I JUST HEARD A LOT OF TALK LATELY. NO ONE IS GOING TO COME THROUGH AND ALL THESE DEVELOPER HAPPY PEOPLE. WE ALL LIVE IN THIS COUNTY. WE ALL WANT THIS COUNTY TO BE GOOD. THIS COMPROMISE, THERE IS ROOM TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER AND TO BE RESPECTFUL . SO I JUST BLESS ALL OF YOU. I THINK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I KNOW THAT GOOD IS COMING FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK WE HAD TIME FOR ONE MORE SPEAKER.

>> I WILL BE BRIEF. MY NAME IS DAVID GAMGEE. I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE SOUTH. NOT VERY GOOD AT TECHNOLOGY HERE. BUT THIS IS PART OF A PRESENTATION REGARDING SURVEYS ON IT'S GOING TO TURN OFF AND A SECOND. IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS , WE HAVE TRIED TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT THIS TRAIL IS COMING THROUGH THE PIPE. WE'VE HAD 267 SIGNED PETITIONS THAT SAY WE DON'T WANT THE TRAIL. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TRAIL.

THERE'S 267, I'M SORRY. THE 350 THAT THE COUNTY SAID THEY USED 260 WERE FROM DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK, I BELIEVE THAT THE SURVEY NUMBERS ARE TOO SMALL. HE DOESN'T REPRESENT

THE TRUE FEELINGS OF THE PIKE. >> THANK YOU, SIR. MADAM

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>> THIS TIME WILL RACERS --

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