[5. Motion to adopt Resolution 2023-____, approving the transfer of $1,268,886.00 in road impact fee credits from the Twin Creeks DRI to the Fountains East Apartments within the Fountains East PUD finding the request consistent with Florida Statute. ]

WE DID PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT

SPECIFICALLY ON THAT MOTION? >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS PROVIDED. WE HAD A SPEAKER.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. WHO IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM 1-A? GOOD MORNING, MR. DE-SOUZA.

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>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD, DICK SOUZA, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT. TWO PREVIOUSLY CONSENT ITEMS FROM TRANSFER OF IMPACT FEE FROM TWIN CREEK TO FOUNTAINS.

THE AS-BUILT FOR THE 210 WIDENING.

STILL A FEW OUTSTANDING COMMENTS FROM CERTAIN STAFF AT GROWTH MANAGEMENT, AND WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THOSE VARIOUS ISSUES. LIKES LIKE WE NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FROM THE ENGINEER OF RECORD ON THIS PROJECT FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE THIS OUT SUFFICIENTLY TO AWARD THE CREDITS THAT THE ARE BEING SOUTH TO TRANSFER.

AND SO WE ARE JUST WAITING ON A FEW THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT THE CREDITS INTO THE ACCOUNT FOR THEM TO BE TRANSFERRED.

I ANTICIPATE THIS TO BE DONE WITHIN A FEW WEEKS -- NOT A FEW WEEKS, I AM SO SORRY, BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK SINCE WE HAVE A SHORT WEEK THIS WEEK. AND THIS WILL BE SAID AND DONE TO THE WHEN IT CLEANINGS DRI TO TRANSFER THEM.

THE ASK IS TO TRANSFER THEM TO A TIME WHERE ALL THE REMAINING ITEMS FOR THE PROJECT THAT THE CREDITS THAT ARE BEING SOUGHT

FOR. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD TO MR. DE-SOUZA. SEEING NONE, I GUESS WE WILL GO

INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 1-A. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER JOHN KINSEY, 1 TOWN CENTER VOTED. THE PRINCIPAL AND MANAGER OF TWIN CREEKS. THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF TWIN CREEKS. IN ORDER FOR THESE TWO SALES TO GO THROUGH, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR IMPACT FEE CREDIT BANK INCREASED ABOVE ITS CURRENT $1 MILLION AND CHANGE BALANCE.

$4.5 MILLION IS WEIGHTING LITERALLY AN INCH AWAY FROM THE GOAL LINE. AND THAT IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE SIX-LANE WIDESENING OF THE ROAD WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF TWIN CREEKS. THE OPEN ITEM THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WAS AROUND AS-BUILT ON TREE MITIGATION AROUND A POND, A DRAINAGE POND. TWO DRAINAGE PONDS CONSTRUCTEDED IN CONNECTION WITH THE ROAD. ALL OF THESE THEES ARE ORDERED.

52 AND A HALF INCH TREES NOT TOWERING OAKS OR ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT. THE TREES WERE DELIVERED TO THE SITE ON MONDAY, TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK.

SCHEDULED TO BE INSTALLED ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE COUNTY EXPECTER TO BE OUT ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY TO CONFIRM WE HAVE A RIGHT NUMBER OF RIVER BIRCHES.

RIGHTS NUMBER OF SWEET GUMS. RIGHT NUMBER OF THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. UNFORTUNATELY IT RAINED HERE A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK, WHICH IS A SOMEWHAT OF AN UNDERSTATEMENT AND PREVENTED THE TREE TO BE INSTALLED UNTIL THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND NO ONE COULD COME OUT AND INSPECT EVERYTHING BEFORE THE MEETING THIS MORNING. THIS SALE DOESN'T HAPPEN IN ONE DAY. FIRST THE SALE NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. THEN THE BUYER HAS TO GO AND GET THEIR FUNDS TOGETHER AND THEN A CLOSING 10 DAYS AFTER THEY WILL GET IT APPROVED TODAY. SO WHAT WE WILL ASK YOU TO DO IS TO APPROVE THE SALE BECAUSE NOTHING IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A NORMAL CONSENT AGENDA. BUT HAVE THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SALE PROVIDE THAT NO VOUCHER REPRESENTING THOSE SOLD CREDITS WILL BE ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY UNTIL WE HAVE GOTTEN THIS FINAL PAPERWORK SIGN-OFF WE NEED ON THE T TREES AND WAS THE ONE OTHER ITEM BESIDES THE TREES? A PAPERWORK ISSUE AND WE NEED TO GET THE APPROVAL TODAY IN ORDER FOR IT TO GET FORWARD. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT IS SUGGESTED WILL PROTECT THE COUNTY AND ALLOW THE TRANSACTION TO PROCEED. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: COMMISSIONER WHITE HURST.

OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 1-A? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BACK TO THE BOARD.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, MR. DE-SOUZA. THE WAY THAT MR. KINSEY ASKED US TO STRUCTURE THIS MOTION, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR CONCERNS.

>> I WILL REFER TO OCA WITH THE TIMING OF SIGNATURES AND ALL THAT. BEFORE I HEARD THAT, THE IDEA WAS THAT THE SIGNATURE WOULD GO ONCE THAT AS-BUILD IS CLOSED OUT TO CHAIR FOR SIGNATURE. ONCE THE AS-BUILT DOES THAT.

I ANTICIPATE THAT EARLY NEXT WEEK AND I REFER TO OCA ON THAT.

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>> GOOD MORNING, MR. DE-SOUZA IS SUGGESTING THAT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TRANSFER WHICH SIX CUTED BY THE CHAIR NOT BE SIGNED UNTIL THE AS-BUILT IS FINAL. THAT IS THE CONTINGENCY THAT

WORKS WITH OUR PROCESS. >> CORRECT.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: MR. KINSEY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND -- YOU UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET THE AS-BUILT FINISHED BEFORE WE CAN HAVE IS THE CACHE CHAIR SEND THE

DOCUMENT. >> WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

JUST YOUR PAPERWORK AND THE BUYER'S PAPERWORK.

JUST WANT TO GET IT DONE. QUICKLY.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: VERY GOOD.

SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AN AGEND. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, CHAIR

ARNOLD. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: WE HAVE

MOTION? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: MOVE $1268 THUNDERSHOWER 868 FROM ROAD IMPACT FROM THE TWIN CREEKS DRI TOTHE FOUNTAINS EAST APARTMENTS WITHIN THE FOUNTAINS EAST PUD THAT THE AS-BUILT WILL BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE CHAIRMAN

[6. Motion to adopt Resolution 2023-____, approving the transfer of $1,864,706.00 in road impact fee credits from the Twin Creeks DRI to the 2020 SR 16 PUD finding the request consistent with Florida Statute. ]

SIGNING FOR THE RELEASE OF THOSE CREDITS.

>> SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

>>CLERK: IT PASSES 5-0. ON TO AGENDA ITEM 1-B.

MR. DE-SOUZA. >> IF AGAIN, GOOD MORNING, BOARD. ANOTHER TRANSFER.

EXACT SAME. A DIFFERENT AMOUNT TO A DIFFERENT ENTITY, BUT AGAIN, THE SAME PROCESS WE WOULD DELAY THE SIGNATURE OF THE CHAIR UNTIL THE AS-BUILT IS COMPLETED AND I ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE DONE EARLY NEXT WEEK.

ANY BOARD QUESTIONS? PUBLIC COMMENT?

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM 1- B, COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND

YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. >> JOHN KINSEY, SAME ADDRESS ONCE AGAIN. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING FORWARD WITH THE EXACT SAME PROCEDURE WE JUST DISCUSSED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YO YOU.

>> BJ KALADY, WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREEN. ALL THESE -- THIS IS -- THIS IS G GOOD.

AS-BUILT. MR. DEAN, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU

CAN'T HEAR ME. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I HEAR YOU FI FINE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. EVERYBODY ELSE CAN RAISE THEIR HANDS. I LIKE THIS AS-BUILT BECAUSE WE ARE TRANSFERRING A LOT OF THESE IMPACT FEES BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO DO WHAT THEY WANTON DO HERE.

THIS IS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I KNOW IT'S -- AND THE GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWED YOU TO DO THIS STUFF.

I HAVE 100,000 MILLION DOLLARS, BILLION DOLLARS.

I WILL GIVE YOU THIS AND THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TWIN CREEKS IS GETTING OR HOW MUCH THEY HAVE THAT THEY ARE SITTING ON THAT THEY CAN GIVE ALL THESE OTHER GUYS THAT CAN'T COME UP WITH ANY MONEY. THAT IS WHAT CONCERNS ME OF IMPACT FEES. IF WE WILL START DOING THIS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, I AM GOING TO LOOK MORE CHOICELYLOSELY TO AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. KINSEY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THESE TRANSFERS. THIS IS THE FIRST TWO THAT YOU HAVE DONE THAT SAYS AS-BUILT NOT JUST WAITING AROUND TO SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN. BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. I AM FOR THIS, OKAY.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER, FINE.

BUT I THINK SOME OF THESE BUILDERS ARE DEPENDING ON SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY KNOW WHO HAS ALL THE MONEY TO GET THEIR MONEY SO THEY ARE COMING UP WITH SOME MONEY.

A MILES TO DEAL FOR THEM BUT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND. WE ARE GUARANTEEING SOMETHING AS BUILT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 1-B. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BACK TO THE BOARD. A MOTION, COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: TRANSFER OF $1,864,706 IN ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM THE TWIN CREEKS TO THE 2016 PUD PROVIDED A REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE AS-BUILT PRIOR TO THE SIGNING OF THE RESOLUTION RELEASING THE CREDITS.

[2. Charting Performance: A Framework for Open Governance and Efficiency.]

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. PLEASE VOTE.

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THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, MRS. ANDREWS.

GOOD MORNING. >>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE REORGANIZATION.

TO SHARE AN UPDATE ON THE COUNTY'S REORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

WHILE IT IS NOT MANDATED. I FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE THIS INFORMATION TODAY AS INFORMATIONAL ONLY BEFORE YOU AND BEFORE THE PUBLIC SO EVERYBODY HAS A THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS.

I DO WANT TO NOTE VERY QUICKLY THAT MY ABILITY TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WELL IN ADVANCE HAS BEEN VERY MUCH LIMITED AND CONSTRAINED BY URGENCY I FEEL IN SHARING THIS INFORMATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND IT WAS -- IT WAS PRETTY MUCH A PROMISE THAT I MADE TO MYSELF THAT WE WILL MAKE THIS ORGANIZATIONAL UPDATE TO THE PUBLIC WITHIN THE 230 DAYS OF THE HIRING. SO MY CHIEF OF STAFF ANGIE COWLING, MYSELF AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS WORKED OVER THE WEEKEND TO HAVE A GOOD, WELL-FOR MATTED AND MEANINGFUL PRESENTATION FOR YOU TODAY. I THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORT OF MY STAFF TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO I WILL START WITH OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. IT IS LITTLE HARD TO SEE BUT I WILL STAY ON THIS PAGE FOR A MINUTE IF THE AUDIENCE AND BOARD MEMBERS, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE.

I WILL ACTUALLY EXPAND INTO THE DETAILS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS AND THE SUBDIVISION OF THESE CHARTS AND LITTLE DETAIL AT THE LATER SLIDES. I WILL START WITH OUR CITIZENS AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE ELECTED BY YOU ARE ON CITIZENS AND COME DOWN TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION. AND I WILL HIGHLIGHT REALLY THE CHANGE THAT WE FEEL EXCITED ABOUT TODAY IS THE CREATION OF THE OFFICE OF PERFORMANCE AND TRANSPARENCY AND HE WILL TALK AGAIN LITTLE DETAILS OF THIS OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND UNDER THIS OFFICE, WE ARE DIRECTLY WORKING WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS WHICH IS ANOTHER EXCITING CHANGE THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON JUST A LITTLE BIT IN A FEW MINUTES AND OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET AND OFFICE OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS. WE ARE IT I VIEDING OUR OPERATION INTO TWO SIDES. ONE IS INFRASTRUCTURE.

ONE IS SERVICES. AND UNDER THOSE TWO SIDES, WE HAVE -- AND I ACTUALLY CAN'T EVEN SEE FROM THIS POINT.

I CAN READ TO IT. AND ALSO I SLIDE TO OUR NEXT SLIDE SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE DETAILS OF IT.

THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE HAVE A FEW DEPARTMENTS BY DEPARTMENTS WITH EXCEPTION OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT. IT IS VERY MUCH A FUNCTION.

COASTAL MANAGEMENT IS OUR CRITICAL WITHIN OUR DISASTER RECOVERY. UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF J JOE GIMUNCO. FACILITY MANAGEMENT, LAND MANAGEMENT, PURCHASING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH MANAGEMENT, PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES. AND YOU ARE THE SERVICE DIVISION OF OUR COUNTY OF OPERATION IS OUR BUILDING SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, FIRE RESCUE, LIBRARY SERVICES, MEDICAL EXAMINER, TOURISM DEVELOPMENT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SERVICES, PARKS AND RECREATION AND VETERANS SERVICES.

WE ARE STARTING REALLY IN THE BEGINNING OF JULY, WE STARTED A TWO SPECIALIZED TEAMS WHERE YOU CAN SAY TASK FORCES TO REALLY AIM AT REDEFINING OUR SERVICE STANDARD.

SERVICES WILL BE ADDED IN YOUR FUTURE.

AND I THINK THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC HAVE SEEN SOME DEMONSTRATED SUCCESS IN ESTABLISHING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

REALLY THE -- THE MISSIONS THAT WE ARE AIMING AT IS COLLABORATING EXPEDITING CAPITAL PROJECTS AND DEPARTMENT SILOS AND HARNESS ANY COLLECTIVE STRENGTH AND SHARE IN EACH DEPARTMENT AND EXPERTISE TO INNOVATE AND STREAMLINE PROJECT EXECUTION. AND WE THRIVE TO INTEGRATE OUR CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SUSTAINED IMPROVEMENT IS IN PLACE FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SERVICE LANDSCAPE. HERE WILL SOME HIGHLIGHTED CHANGES. THIS IS ONE OF THE NOTABLE

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CHANGES THAT WE ARE DOING IS TO ESTABLISH THE OFFICE OF TRANSPARENCY. THE HIGHLIGHTED FOCUS ON ACCOUNTABILITY AND OPENNESS. THROUGH THE CREATION OF THIS OFFICE, WE AIM TO CUTS VENTILATOR A CULTURE OF PERFORMANCE EXCELLENCE, ENSURING THAT OUR COMMITTEE EXPERIENCE IS THE HIGHLY SUSTAINABLE SERVICES COUPLED WITH ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT. THESE ARE THE KEY FUNCTIONS OF THIS OFFICE. PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENT AND ANALYSIS WHICH WILL INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENT PERFORMANCE MEASURES, FRAMEWORKS AND KEYER.

>> GREATERS FOR DEPARTMENTS AND OUR DELIVERY SERVICES TEAM.

TO IDENTIFY AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND PRODUCE COMPREHENSIVE PERFORMANCE REPORT FOR OUR INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, OUR EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, PUBLIC AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATION. THAT IS A VERY MUCH NEEDED FUNCTION TO ESTABLISH A SPECIALIZED DIVISION FOR.

WE STAY ABREAST OF EMERGING TECHNOLOGY THAT ENHANCE PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENT AND GROVER ALL EFFICIENCY.

AND EXPLORE INTEGRATION OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTION TO IMPROVE DATA AND CAPABILITY. THE MORSE IMPORTANT ENTERPRISE THAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED AND SUPPORTED WITH RESOURCES IS OUR UNDERTAKING FOR ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING AND IN A FEW SLIDES, I WILL SHOW HOW IT IS GOING TO WORK AND AFFECT OUR COUNTY OPERATION. COLLABORATING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE SEAMLESS INTEGRATION OF ERP, ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING FUNCTIONALITIES INTO THEIR DAILY OPERATION. ONE THING WE PRIDE OURSELVES WITH IS OUR COMMITMENT OF ENHANCE THE TRANSFAR RENRY -- TRANSMIT THE PARENTHESES. WE HEAR OUR BOARD LOUD AND CLEAR. WE TAKE EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCIES IN COUNTY OPERATIONS AND DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN AN ACCESSIBLE USER-FRIENDLY ONLINE PORTAL FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO PERFORMANCE DATA. WE WILL HAVE A FUNCTIONAL AND LIVE DASHBOARD AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB SITE.

COORDINATE WITH DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE TIMELY AND ACCURATE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO IT THE PUBLIC COMPLIANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WE WILL MONITOR OUR COMPLIANCE TOO ESTABLISH A MATRIX. POLICY AND PROCEDURE CULTURE OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY THROUGH OUR ORGANIZATION.

HAND THIS IS A HOW IT MAY LOOK LIKE.

WE ARE STILL UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR DASHBOARD FOR THE PUBLIC. IF YOU WANT TO ACCESS OUR DASHBOARD, AGAIN, WE WILL PROBABLY MAKE ANNOUNCEMENT IN YOUR FUTURE WHEN OUR DASHBOARD COMES TO LIFE AND HOW IT IS GOING TO BE LIKE AS A DASHBOARD OF PERFORMANCE MEASURE.

THIS IS AN IMAGE TO SHOW YOU HOW THE ENTERPRISE PLANNING SOLUTION IS GOING TO INTERCONNECT WITH ALL OF OUR FUNCTIONS THROUGH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND TO MAKE SURE WE COLLABORATE AND SANTA MARIA OUR DATA EFFICIENTLY AND TRANSPARENTLY.

ANOTHER NOTABLE CHANGE TO HIGHLIGHT IS OUR OFFICE OF GRANT AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS TO THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS.

IT RECOGNIZES THE COORDINATION OF INTERCONNECTIVITY OF OUR COUNTY WITH EXTERNAL ENTITIES. BY PLACING A HIGHLIGHT ON INTERGROWTHAL AFFAIRS AND SEEK TO FOSTER A STRONGER COLLABORATIONS, STREAMLINE COMMUNICATIONS AND MAXIMIZING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL DIRECTLY BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE KEY MISSIONS AND DUETIES OF THIS OFFICE. DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR APPROPRIATIONS IN PLACE OF THE POLICIES BY THIS BOARD AND ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST THE PUBLIC POLICIES THAT MAY AFFECT OUR ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS. CULTIVATE NEW AND STRENGTHEN EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR STATE AND FEDERAL AND OTHER AGENCIES AND STAKEHOLDERS AND CONDUCT A POLICY ANALYSIS OF PROPOSED POLICY AND LEGISLATION TO ASSESS THEIR POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE BOARD.

OUR NEW ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. I WILL RECOMMEND ANY FEEDBACK ON

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THAT. I CAN PAUSE THROUGH THE MOMENT BEFORE I ASK FOR A REQUEST FOR CONFIRMATION OF STATE LAW FOR A

DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER WITH A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THANK YOU, CHAIR.

HOW BIG IS OUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO GET? ARE WE GOING TO ADD GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

I FEEL LIKE THIS IS EXPANDING OUR GOVERNMENT AND PAYING TAXES FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS.

I AM SURE IT IS A QUESTION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING BECAUSE THAT IS A LOT OF WORDS THERE.

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: IF I MAY BLEW MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL QUESTION.

ONE CAN EXPECT THAT THERE MAY BE ADDED RESOURCE, BUT I WOULD SAY AT THIS TIME, WE ARE NOT EXPECTED ANY ADDED RESOURCE TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. AND WHENEVER THERE IS ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT, IT WILL BE INVESTMENT THAT WILL BE MADE BY IN BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

WE DON'T UNILATERALLY MAKE INVESTMENT FROM THE STAFF LEVEL.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING OUR STRUCTURE FOR FUNCTIONALITY AND COMMITMENT TO THE OUR COMMUNITY. AT THIS TIME I WOULD SAY, NO, WE ARE NOT GROWING OUR GOVERNMENT. WE ARE JUST REALLOCATING OUR RESOURCES, REMAKE OUR INVESTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS IN PLACE.

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD:

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, THIS MISS ANDREWS ARE, THROUGH THE CHAIR, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT ADDING ANY NEW FTES IN THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT BEGINS IN FEBRUARY AND ENDS IN SEPTEMBER?

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: THAT'S CORRECT.

IF. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: LOOKS LIKE WHAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE COUNTY GULF OF MEXICO AND MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT. IS THAT TRUE?

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: THANK IS ACCURATE.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING FORWARD THE PRESENTATION. IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, WE, AS A BOARD ASKED FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT AND I THANK YOU FOR USING SAY IF RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPY.

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. COME FORWARD AND STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, JOE MCINSPECTEDERNEY, BLACKBERRY LANE.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS DOES SOUND FANTASTIC.

NEW TO ME. I WILL HAVE TO GO HOME AND WATCH THAT ON GTV AND MAKE MORE NOTES.

ONE THING THAT JUMPS OUT AT ME IS FRUSTRATIONS OVER INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW AND IF THIS NEW TYPE OF ORGANIZATION WILL AIR DRESS THOSE. I WAS ENCOURAGED TO HEAR AND SEE, FOR EXAMPLE. IF I TAKEN MY NOTES, OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS THAT THERE SEEK NEW FUNDS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. THAT WAS A LITTLE EXCITING.

I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN I SAW PARKS AND RECREATION UNDER SERVICES. INFRASTRUCTURE, IT INVESTMENTS TO KNEE, IS ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT PARKS AND RECREATION.

WE HAVE ADDED A LOT. WE NEED TO ADD A LOT MORE.

SO I WOULD JUST ADD THAT AS A COMMENT.

MOST EXCITED TO SEAT INFRASTRUCTURE DELIVERY TEAM WHERE NEW EMPHASIS IS PLACED ON SELECTED INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND I THINK I HEARD THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING. BUT THIS IS BIG.

INFRASTRUCTURE AND INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE COMES UP.

INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE COMES UP AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AS WE ARE LISTENING TO AND ASSESSING AND EVALUATING AND VOTING ON PROPOSED APPLICATIONS. THIS SEEMS EXCITING.

AS I SAID I WILL HAVE TO GO HOME AND WATCH GTV AND TAKE MORE NOTES, BUT I AM PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, ED SLAVIN.

FIRST OF ALL, IT IS REALLY COLD IN THIS ROOM.

CAN SOMEBODY ADJUST THE AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE.

SAVE YOUR MONEY, PLEASE. IT MUST BE 60 DEGREES RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. SOMETIMES I THINK ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSION HAVE A COLD TEMPERATURE, MAYBE REFLECTING THE VALUES OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY. THAT LAST ONE ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT. AFTER THE DEPUTIES WERE LEAVING, ONE OF THEM MADE A REMARK TO ME. IMGOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE SHERIFF TO TALK ON THAT. IT WAS QUITE RUDE.

WHEN I ASKED FOR THE RECORDS ON ITEM TWO LAST WEEK, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING IN THE FILE. THERE WASN'T ANYTHING ON THE WEB SITE. I GUESS THAT IS WHY THEY HAD TO WORK ALL WEEKEND. BECAUSE ALL WE HAD WAS 33 WORDS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COMMISSIONER JOSEPH DID NOT RECEIVE THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION UNTIL I SENT IT TO HER. THANK YOU FOR SENDING ME THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR WORKING ALL WEEKEND LONG, BUT I SEE A BUNCH OF BUZZWORDS IN THING.

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NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SPECIFICITY. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDARDS. PRINCE, WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE, WHAT IS THE CUSTOMER SERVICE STANDARD HOW QUICKLY THEY ANSWER THE CALL -- THE MESSAGE? BECAUSE FROM 2007 UNTIL TODAY NO COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR EVER RETURNED ONE OF MY TELEPHONE CALLS.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY LACKS A WELCOMING SPIRIT.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY LACKS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.

AND I AM GLAD WE ARE GETTING THEM.

IT IS ABOUT TIME. BUT WE CAN DO A LOT BETTER AND WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROCESS.

FIRST OF ALL, WHY DO WE ONLY GET THREE MINUTES WHILE THE DEVELOPERS GET AS MUCH TIME AS THEY WANT? THAT IS NOT THE LAW. THAT IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY RULES.

ONE OF OUR PROFESSORS AT MEMPHIS STATES HAD A COMMENT -- SHELBY COUNTY RULES. THEY DO CRAZY THINGS IN MEMPHIS.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS THE REPUTATION OF BEING ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT PLACES IN FLORIDA AND I APPRECIATE MISS ANDREWS HOPEFULLY BRINGING THAT TO AN END, INSTITUTE TRANSPARENCY, BUT THE NEXT TIME SOMEONE CALLS A GOVERNMENT OFFICE, LET'S BE FRIENDLY. FOR HEAVENS SAKES, WHEN SOMEBODY ENTERS THIS BUILDING, NOT A RECEPTION THERE.

WHY? NOT A RECEPTIONIST INSIDE THE FRONT DOOR WHEN YOU ENTER THE BUILDING.

OUGHT TO BE SOMEONE THERE. A BIG OL' SIGN, IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN RECORD REQUEST, YOU HAVE TO SEND AND E-MAIL OR CALL ON THE PHONE? THAT IS NOT THE LAW EITHER.

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO WALK INTO A GOVERNMENT OFFICE AND ASK FOR RECORDS WITHOUT IDENTIFYING OURSELVES.

THAT IS THE LAW AND I KNOW THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL SO ADVISE YOU. WE HAVE A LOT TO DO.

FINALLY, I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING CONFIRMATIONS UP FOR A VOTE AND ASK FOR ADVANCED NOTICE.

I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT FOR YEARS.

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THAT YOU

ARE, MR. SLAVIN. >> GOOD MORNING, CHARLIE HUNT FROM MILL CREEK ESTATES. YEAH, IT SOUNDED GREAT.

THE ACTUAL POWERPOINT PRESENTATION WAS FABULOUS.

WONDERFUL COLORS. WONDERFUL PICTURES.

IT FLOWED GREAT. BUT -- WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT. AND I BROUGHT IT UP TO OTHER PEOPLE EVEN IN THE MEET AND GREET GOING ON A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IS, WHAT WITH AN INSIDER MAKING CHANGES TO ASSIST THEM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN. WHAT THE DETAILS OF THAT? KNOW, THAT'S WHERE -- THAT IS WHERE ALL THIS -- THIS SUGAR COLTED INFORMATION AND POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS LOOK GREAT. BUT REALLY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, YES, I HAVE ISSUES CALLING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND ASKING ABOUT CERTAIN QUESTIONS OF PROPERTY LINES AND POINTS OF KNOWN POINTS AND DEVELOPER TRACKER MAP IS SO OUTDATED IT IS RIDICULOUS. THE STATE INTERSECTION SHOW THE WA-WAS RIGHT THERE. WELL, IT IS NOT.

THE 7-ELEVEN OPEN FOR OVER A YEAR NOW AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT IS GOING ON WITH EITHER THIS MAP IS FAR BEHIND.

THIS MAP IS PARTIALLY IN PLACE. AND THIS MAP ONLY DEALS WITH OUR PROJECT. SOME IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO RESIDENTIAL OR FOR THE RESIDENTS AND CUSTOMER OR ANYBODY COMING ON THERE. THEN LET'S GET THAT STRAIGHT.

A DEFINITE, DEFINITE PLUS FOR PUTTING OUT INFORMATION THAT IS BEING JUST FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER.

THIS DEPARTMENT, WE ONLY GO THIS FAR.

SO YOU MIGHT NEED TO CALL THIS DEPARTMENT.

YES. YES.

IT IS LIKE A RUN-AROUND. BELIEVE ME.

BELIEVE ME. 21 YEARS.

I WORKED IN THE GOVERNMENT, OK OKAY. THIS IS THE APPLE DOESN'T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE. I AM TRULY SAYING THESE WORDS ARE GREAT. THEY ARE BUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THIS SUPPOSEDLY TAME OR NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TAKES PLACE SO, YES, IT IS GOING TO BE.

GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. AND I HOPE -- I HOPE THIS WILL BE ON RECORD SO IT IS GOING TO COME BACK UP.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, JULIE SPIEGEL.

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I HAVE A QUESTION AND A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND AN OAKS.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF EXPEDITING INFRASTRUCTURE DELIVERY.

I THINK THAT IS AWESOME AND GREAT.

I THINK JOY ANDREWS IS A REALLY INCREDIBLE INTELLIGENT WOMAN AND GLAD SHE IS IN THE POSITION MOVING PIECES AROUND AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES AN INSIDER IS -- THE AUTHORITY TO DO SOME SHIFTING AND SEE THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY JUST OUT OF -- FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE. WHAT DEPARTMENT SILOS TO BE BROKE BREAK EN DOWN.

AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF TRANSPARENCY AND DECISION-MAKING PROCESS THAT QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED WHEN THEY ARE ASKED.

I THINK THAT IS REALLY GOOD. I HAD A CONCERN OF I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTERNET OF THINGS MEANS.

THAT WAS KIND OF WEIRD TO ME AND MY LEARNED HUSBAND SAID NO TRAINING ON THAT, ON CYBERSECURITY.

I AM SURE IT IS HAPPENING AND NICE TO SEE THAT REFERENCED ON THAT NICE GRAPH THAT WE HAVE. NEW TECHNOLOGIES BEING IMPLEMENTED. THAT WE BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND THEY MAY NOT BE DEGREED AND PUT EVERYTHING IN AT THAT NEW TECHNOLOGY AND NOT SERVING THE NEED THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE NEVER TRIED IT.

YOU HAVE TO BACK OUT AND PUT SOMETHING NEW IN PLACE BUT I WILL EXERCISE CAUTION ON THAT. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. SEEING NOT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I HAD A ANOTHER COMMENT.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS ARE.

I SAW THAT ON THERE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS.

>> WHICH SLIDE ARE YOU REFERRING TO, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I THINK TOWARD THE END OF GOVERNMENT LEGISLATURE. IT WAS A BIG PARAGRAPH, LAST SLIDE, SECOND TO LAST SLIDE. IT SAID "INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS."

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: REFERRING TO THE OFFICE OF

GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS? >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: UNLESS YOU GO BACK. I DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN TELL ME AT SOME OTHER T T TIME.

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: I AM HAPPY TO HAVE A CHAT ABOUT

IT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? MISS ANDREWS.

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT CITIZENS HAVE AND TO TALK WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. I DO WANT TO AT LEAST QUESTION ONE QUESTION THAT MR. JOE MCINERNEY STATED WHICH IS A GOOD QUESTION OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

WHETHER IT IS A SERVICE DEPARTMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT IS A REFLECTION OF OUR ORGANIZATION. AND MOST OF THE SERVICE DEPA DEPARTMENT.

AND ALL WORKED HAND IN HAND AND THAT IS THE SILO THAT WE WANTTO BREAK DOWN THAT THE NEW FACILITIES WILL BE BUILT TIMELY ACCORDING THE SERVICE MASTER PLAN.

SO, YES, I THINK THAT ALL SERVICES THAT WE OFFER TO THE COMMUNITY HAVE REALLY TWO-PRONGED ASPECT TO IT.

SO I AM IT WITH NO MORE QUESTIONS, I WILL GO TO OUR LAST SLIDE AND TODAY IS THE REQUEST THAT IS BEFORE THE BOARD IS THE CONFIRMATION OF A PERMANENT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OF UTILITY DEPARTMENT. CURRENTLY OUR INTERIM DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR FOR UTILITY DEPARTMENT. AND WE HAD QUITE A CHALLENGE TO DENSE DOWN HIS EXTENSIVE WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE OUTSIDE OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY AND WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

HE IS A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN FLORIDA AND GEORGIA AND HAS OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE CIVIL AND ENVIRONMENT FIELD, BOTH IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTORS.

AND A UTILITY ENGINEERING MANAGER AND SERVED 12 YEARS IN THAT POSITION. NEIL WAS PROMOTEDED TO PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IN 2013 AND SERVED IN THAT POSITION FOR EIGHT YEARS. 2001, MOVED TO THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT AS ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR.

HE HAS BEEN SENIOR MANAGEMENT POSITION, MANAGING UTILITY AND PUBLIC WORKS INCLUDING SOLID WASTE, ROAD AND BRIDGE, COASTAL MANAGEMENT FLEET AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND HAS MANAGED PROJECTS OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.

HE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN SEVERAL UTILITY ACQUISITIONS FOR THE COUNTY, SEVERAL BOND ISSUES, INITIATED A COUNTY'S FIRST

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INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLAN AND NEGOTIATED A COUNTY'S CURRENT 20-YEAR CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMIT.

HOLDS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CIVIL ENGINEERING AND BACHELORS IN SCIENCE FROM TENNESSEE TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITY, EXCUSE ME. AND MASTER IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA.

WE ARE EXCITED TO PUT THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY TO CONFIRM HIM AS OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION.

I FEEL BLESSED TO HAVE THIS GENTLEMAN IN THAT POSITION.

HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND TO CONFIRM NEIL STRENKE AS DIRECTOR

OF THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE NEED TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT

ON THIS. >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: I BELIEVE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS ALREADY ALLOWED ON THE SCREEN

[3. Consultant Briefing on the County's Comprehensive Plan Update.]

BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK WE COMPLIED WITH THE

LAW. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: PERFECT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT MOTIONS PASS ITS. CONGRATULATIONS.

>>COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDREWS: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: MOVING ON.

EVENING ITEM NUMBER 3 GOOD MORNING, MIKE.

>MIKE ROBERSON: CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

MIKE ROBERSON, DIRECTOR, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

KICK OFF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT. WE WILL HAVE OUR CONSULTANT WITH A QUICK BRIEFING AND AGAIN NO DIRECTION REQUESTED FOR TODAY BUT REALLY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT QUITE A BIT EXPLAINING OUR PROCESSES. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EXPLAINING IT AND ESTABLISHING WHEN WE WILL HAVE SOME MEETINGS A HIGH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

SUCH A PROCESS THAT WILL NOT BE MOVED.

AND THIS WILL GET US TO THE FINISH LINE IN 2024.

WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND STOP RAMBLING, BUT I AM PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE AND HAVE ERIC AND CHRIS IS THE PRINCIPAL

HERE AND TAKE IT AWAY. >> WONDERFUL, GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW POSITION. I AM CHRIS DOHERTY, I AM WITH INSPIRE PLACEMAKING COLLECTIVE. THIS IS OUR OFFICIAL PUBLIC KICKOFF. I KNOW WE HAD INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT THE PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE, BUT TODAY WE GET TO OFFICIALLY LET THE FOLKS KNOW HERE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY WHAT THIS YEAR HAS IN STORE SO OUR QUICK AGENDA HERE. TALK QUICKLY ABOUT THE PROJECT TEAM. SOME OF THIS IS LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESH WHY WE ARE DOING THE PLAN UPDATE, THE TIMELINE OF THINGS. WE HAVE A LOT IN STORE AND A LOT TO TALK ABOUT IN THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT.

WHAT WHICH HEARD TO DATE AND THE NEXT STEP.

YOU KNOW OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, MIKE, WILL HAD BEEN OUR POINT OF CONTACT ON THE COUNTY SIDE OF THINGS.

TERESA BISHOP WILL BE ASSISTING MIKE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDDATE. YOU WILL SEE -- TAKING THE LEAD ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT AND PAT THE TAESKI.

WE HAVE A PRETTY BIG TEAM AND WILL SEE A LOT OF NEW FACES THROUGH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND A LOT OF FOLKS THAT YOU HAVEN'T MET YET. WHAT IS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YES, IT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

AND THE PLAN ITSELF HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EARLY 90S, LATE 80S. WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY IS KIND OF THE VES STRIKES OF T--VESTIGES JUST BEFORE 2010 BEFORE THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT IN 2011. CLEANUP FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT REALLY THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IMPLEMENTS THE COMMUNITY'S VISION AND WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY VISIONING PROCESS TO

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GO THROUGH THE DESIRES OF THE COMMUNITY THIS PLAN HELPS TO IMPLEMENT THAT, AND PRESENTS YOU WITH GUIDANCE OF MAKING DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT OR A NEW PARK OR NEW AGREEMENT WITH PARTNERS OF ADJACENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDES GUIDANCE TO LANDOWNERS.

THIS IS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TODAY.

IT IS MADE UP OF A SERIES OF ELEMENTS, LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION HOUSING. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.

YOU WILL SEE THE WHITE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE DEGREE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT IS A BRAND-NEW ELEMENT THAT IS CREATED.

IT IS MENTIONED IN PRESIDENT PLAN TODAY AND A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT ERIC WITH ME TODAY. HE IS TAKING THE LEAD OF DEVELOPING THAT BRAND-NEW ELEMENT FOR THE COUNTY.

AND AGAIN JUST TO REINFORCE WHY WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND BRINGING IT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE OPENING IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW WE GO THROUGH THE ITERATIONS OF THE PLAN AND MAKE CHANGES. A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS GO THROUGH A PUBLIC EDUCATION PROCESS AND WE HAVE THE QUORUM IN FRONT OF THE BOARD WHEN THOSE CHANGES ARE MADE.

THIS TIME IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND I WILL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN A MOMENT.

BUT, OF COURSE, WE ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO NOT ONLY HAVE THE PLAN BUT UPDATE EVERY SEVEN YEARS, AN EVALUAION AND APPRAISAL PROCESS THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT VERY QUICKLY HERE IN A MOMENT. BIG PICTURE, A QUICK CLEANUP FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUST TO ADDRESS STATE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THAT IS WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS THE AMENDMENTS.

WE HAVE TO DO THESE LONG REPORTS AND TELL THE STATE WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE PLAN AND WHY WE NEED TO UPDATE.

THANKFULLY THEY HAVE SHORTENED THAT PROCESS WITH THE ADVENT OF THE COMMUNITY PLANNING ACT. WE WILL DO A QUICK CLEANUP AND WHAT THAT DOES GIVES US A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY A LITTLE BIT ON THE BACK END AND GO THROUGH THAT EXPEDITED REVIEW PROCESS WITH THOSE AMOUNTS AND YOU HAVE MORE TO FINISH UP THE PLAN ON THE BACK END WHICH IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE ADVISE, ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE DEALING WITH A LARGE COUNTY GOING THROUGH A LOT OF GROWTH AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THE VISIONING PROCESS RIGHT.

THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE DATA ANALYSIS PROCESS, WHICH IS THE MORE TECHNICAL SIDE AND WHAT OUR NERDY PLANNER LOOSE I CAN TO DO.

PROVIDE THE CERTIFICATIONS FOR THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL BE WORKING ON TOWARD THE END OF NEXT YEAR. OKAY, SO WHAT IS THE VISIONING PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE REALLY EASY PARTS. AND THERE ARE THREE SIMPLE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST PART IS, WITH ARE ARE WE NOW? THE SECOND PART WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHERE DO WE WANTON GO? AND THE THIRD PART, HOW DO WE GET THERE? THAT IS YOUR VISIONING PROCESS.

HOW WE LEARN ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, LEARN ABOUT THE COMMUNITY'S DESIRES AND START TO CRAFT THE PLAN AROUND THOSE DESIRES. AGAIN, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THAT VISION. THERE ARE A SERIES OF DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENTS THAT WILL BE DOING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO KEEP A LOOKOUT. WE HAVE OUR PROJECT WEB SITE THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT THERE JUST A MOMENT.

HERE WE GO. AND SJC PLAN UPDATE.COM.

YOU CAN GET THERE ON YOUR MOBILE DEVICE BY SCANNING THE QR CODE.

IT IS LIVE, UP AND READY TO GO. WE HAVE A SURVEY FOR FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE IN. WE HAVE AN IDEA WHERE FOLKS CAN SHARE IDEAS, PHOTOS AND THINGS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET. AND VERY IMPORTANT AND MOST IMPORTANT, THERE IS A SCHEDULE AS WELL AS UPDATES ON EVENTS.

SO WE WILL HAVE TOWN HALLS THROUGHOUT EACH ONE OF THE DISTRICTS AND QUESTION WANT FOLKS TO USE HER.

SITE FOR LEARNING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND POSTING THE SUMMARY UPDATES AND DOCUMENTS THAT WE FINISH AND GET READY TO SHARE WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED. WHAT WE HEARD.

A LIVING, BREATHING SITE. WE ALSO WILL BE DOING A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN AND SENDING OUT NOTICES ABOUT ALL THE COOL

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EVENTS WE HAVE GOT GOING ON. ALSO, WE HAVE KIOSKS THAT WILL BE SETTING UP THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THEM AT THE LIBRARIES.

AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS. UTILITIES AND PERMITTING CENTER.

THOSE WILL HAVE HARD COPY MATERIALS.

WE KNOW NOT EVERYTHING IS DIGITAL AND FOLKS MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET. SO WE WILL HAVE HARD COPY MATERIALS AT THOSE KIOSKS AND THEY WILL BE SORT OF TABLE TOP CHAOS FOR FOLKS TO GRAB SOME LITERATURE ON THE PLAN UPDATE.

THIS IS THE MORE DETAILED SCHEDULE AS YOU CAN SEE.

PRESIDENT CIRCLES INDICATE THE ENGAGEMENT AND TIMES WE ARE TOUCHING BASE WITH YOU ALL. WE WILL BE TOUCHING BASE WITH THE BOARD THREE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO GIVE YOU UPDATES ON WHAT IS GOING ON. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE COMING BACK AND ACTUALLY ADOPTING THE PLAN. THAT IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE PROCESS. ALSO WILL BE MEETING WITH PZA AND THE PONTE VEDRA PZA AS WELL. THOSE ARE -- OUR MEETINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR THE 4TH AND 7TH.

SO COMING UP HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AS I MENTIONED FIRST KIND OF ORDER A QUICK EVALUATION OF PLAN. ADDRESS SOME OF THE MINOR THINGS IN THE STATUTE. GET THAT CLEARED UP, CLEANED UP.

WE WILL -- WE WILL -- WE ARE ALREADY WORKING ON DATA ANALYSIS NOW BUT WE WILL LEAD RIGHT INTO THE THAT.

AND THEN GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES WILL FOLLOW THAT AFTER WE LEARNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE VISIONING PROCESS AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE PROJECT WEB SITE WILL LIVE THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT SO THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO PROVIDE THEIR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ABOUT THE PLAN WHEN YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY.

SO WHAT WE HEARD -- I WILL BE WRAPPING UP HERE IN JUST A MOMENT. WORK WITH THE PUB LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW AND WHAT EXTENT THE COUNTY WILL GROW.

WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE GOVERNMENT.

THESE ARE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE ALREADY STARTED TO HEAR ABOUT PROTECT THE COUNTY'S NATIONAL RESOURCES.

PRIORITIZING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

YOU KNOW THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGES.

IDEAS COMING UP WITH THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.

WE HEARD OF ACCESS TO THE BEACH OR CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACTIVE RECREATION AT SPE SPECIFIC PARKS.

WE ARE STARTING TO GET THOSE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LEARN MORE AS WE ENGAGE IN OUR LISTENING SESSIONS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP HERE VERY SHORTLY.

NEXT STEPS. AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE ADVANCING WITH THE QUICK CLEANUP. WE WILL BE WITH PZA AND THE PONTE VEDRA PZA BOARDS HERE IN THIS ROOM ON THE 4TH AND THE 7TH NEXT MONTH. KEEP A LOOK OUT.

WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED OF VENUES.

IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF VENUES FOR THE TOWN HALLS.

LET US KNOW. WE ARE HAVING ONE IN EACH DISTRICT AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IDEAS FOR VENUE AND LOCATIONS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS OPEN AND ACCESS TO EVERYONE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS -- THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS?

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: MA'AM, YES.

ON WHY UPDATE. THE THIRD BULLET POINT, PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO EVALUATE ITS CURRENT DECISION-MAKING PRACTICES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

I JUST -- >> SURE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT KIND OF SETS THE STAGE FOR -- ONCE WE DEVELOPED THE FRAMEWORK OF THE PLAN AND WE IDENTIFY MAYBE SPECIFIC POLICIES ADDR ADDRESSING PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND WE MAYBE TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE COMP PLAN FROM A HIGH LEVEL. AND THAT WILL TRANSLATE INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO UPDATE THAT.

SO HIGH LEVEL AT THE COMP PLAN AND WE START TO DIG IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER WHEN WE GET TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: ALSO ON WHAT WE HEARD, YOU WORK WITH THE PUB WILL LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW AND TO WHAT EXTENT THE COUNTY SHOULD GROW AND PROTECT THE COUNTY'S INVENTORY OF NATURAL RESOURCES. HOW INVOLVED ARE THE DEVELOPERS IN THIS? IS THIS THE PUBLIC FOR THE PEOPLE ALREADY LIVING HERE TO HELP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE

PLAN. >> AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE LISTENING SESSIONS. SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. SO THE PUBLIC, DEVELOPERS,

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ENGINEERS, FOLKS THAT USE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FOLKS THAT USE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE WILL FIGURE OUT HOW IT TODAY AND HOW IT CAN BE BETTER.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: BUT THE DEVELOPERS DON'T HAVE A STAKE IN THIS. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY SEE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE OR WHATEVER.

AND THEN THEY ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW WHAT WE NEED.

I AM REALLY CONCERNED THAT THE DEVELOPER ARE GOING TO HAVE A BIGGER PLACE AT THE TABLE WITH OUR LAND.

>> NO. SO THE WAY THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WILL WORK, WE WILL BE LISTENING TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC.

THE ENGAGEMENT FOR THE CLIENT, NOT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WILL PROVIDE US THEIR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, BUT, AGAIN, THE VISION IS

FOR THE COMMUNITY. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PROCESS GETTING GOOD ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PU PUBLIC.

I HAD A QUESTION OF THE TIMING AND GETTING RESULTS BACK.

I GOT A MESSAGE FROM A CONSTITUENT THAT THE SURVEY -- WE MAY HAVE DONE THIS TO OUR PUBLIX AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT, BUT SEPTEMBER OUT NOVEMBER 9, BACK ON THE 30TH.

WONDER GOING WE WILL GET THAT EXTENDED TO ALLOW MORE TIME OR BROADER RESPONSE TO BE BROUGHT FOR

FORWARD. >> YES, SIR, THROUGH THE CHAIR.

MR. VICE-CHAIR, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF SURVEYS OUT PUBLISHED, THIS A SURVEY THAT YOU INDICATED FROM NOVEMBER 9 GOING TO NOVEMBER 30 AND SUBSEQUENTLY BY THE WAY, MISS ANDREWS SAID THAT THAT SURVEY WILL BE EXTENDED OUT BECAUSE THAT CITIZEN HAD CONCERN OF NOT GETTING THE WORD OUT.

HOWEVER, THAT SURVEY -- >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: INFORMATION THAT IS SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

NOT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT MR. DOHERTY IS MENTIONS BECAUSE THAT HAS NOT GONE OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

AGAIN, HE SAID THEIR WEB SITE IS READIED TO GO AND SUB I EXHIEXH -- SUBSEQUENTLY LINK IT AND HAVE THAT LINK ON THE YOU CAN WILL I CAN WEB SITE.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS A DIFFERENT SURVEY.

>> THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. CONCERN OVER HOAS.

WE COORDINATE THESE AND DO THESE SURVEYS AND SEND OUT INFORMATION ON CERTAIN DATES AND NEWSLETTERS AND SO FORTH AND COORDINATING THAT AND GET AS MUCH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS POSSIBLE.

>> SURE, WE WILL. AND PART OF OUR ROLE AS STAFF IS TO RECOGNIZE ALL THAT IS OUT THERE, HOAS.

THIS SURVEY WILL CONTINUE CONTINUE TO.

WE TALKED TO MR. DOHERTY. HE TALKED ABOUT GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS. NOT CUT APPLIEDLY.

IT WILL CONTINUE ON AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK THROUGH DATA ANALYSIS SO YOU HAVE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK THAT YOU CAN GET FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY OF THE

PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MR. DOHERTY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING IN THE COMMUNITY.

OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: WE WILL OPEN UP THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 3.

>> CHUCK LEBNOWSKI. I KNOW OUR HOA HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THIS SURVEY. AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NOW NEED TO GO INTO THE SECOND SURVEY INSTEAD OF DOING THE FIRST SURVEY. I KNOW A NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THE FIRST SURVEY.

>> GOOD QUESTION, MR. LEBNOWSKI. YES, SHORT ANSWER.

HOWEVER, THIS SURVEY IS ON A SHORT TIME LINE.

AND THIS IS ULTIMATELY THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT MENTIONED THE XCOMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT SURVEY.

YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE WAY TO 2024 FOR HOA OR YOUR HOA TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SURVEY.

>> JOE MCINERNEY BLACKBERRY LANE.

GREAT PRESENTATION. I HAVE TAKEN THE ONLINE SURVEY.

SO THERE YOU GO. SO I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE LIGHT OF THE USE OF THE TERM "KICKOFF MEETING." I LOOK AROUND AND -- THIS IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOPS THAT WERE HELD.

AND I AM CER WIDELY AND GREATLY ATTENDED MEETINGS. TOWN HALLS.

LISTENING SESSIONS AND SO FORTH. GREAT PRESENTATION ONCE AGAIN AND I WILL HAVE TO GO AGAIN AND WATCH IT AND TAKE NOTES.

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I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE TIMELINE AND ALL OF THE DETAIL ABOUT THE PROCESS ITSELF. COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE INTERESTING. I HAVE GONE ONLINE AND LOOKED AT OTHER COUNTIES. SOME I WOULD SAY ARE DESCRIPT I HAVE IT WHICH IS DISAPPOINTING TO ME.

THEY SAY THAT HAS GREAT ROADS AROUND GREAT HOUSING AND GREAT COMMUNITY AND THAT IS THE COMMUNITY'S VISION.

AND I WOULD CLASSIFY OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PRESCRIPTIVE. FOR EXAMPLE, A 125C TALKS OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT NEEDS TO STAY IN ANY NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. A 1311 TALKS OF COMPATIBILITY.

THAT NEEDS TO STAY IN ANY FUTURE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY CAN HANG THEIR HAT ON.

IT IS GREAT TO SAY WE WANT GREAT OPPORTUNITIES.

GREAT ROADS. AND WE ENJOY NATURE, BUT YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE PRESCRIPTIVE ITEMS TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS ON, IN MY OPINION. AND FURTHERMORE, TO GO FURTHER AND DEVELOP YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I WOULD JUST SAY THAT. I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE SUMTER COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT INSPIRED THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT COUNTY AND IT IS WHAT I WOULD CALL "PRESCRIPTIVE.

"ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES, LAND USE TRANSPORTATION AND SO FORTH HAD PRESCRIPTIVE NUMBERS. A-1 ARE A-2 AND SO FORTH.

THAT WAS GREAT AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD AND THE COUNTY NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ITS NEIGHBORHOOD. BILL OF RIGHTS PROCESS TO NOTIFY PEOPLE OF UPCOMING MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS AND KICKOFF MEETINGS. IT IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE TO REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PERSONALLY REACH 330,000 PEOPLE, KIDS INCLUDED, I GUESS, AND THAT IS ALWAYS YOU A CHALLENGE. YOU WOULD LIKE TO FILL THIS ROOM AS MUCH AS YOU DID WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOPS.

AN IMPORTANT -- IMPORTANT ONCE EVERY TEN YEARS ITEM.

HATS OFF TO YOU FOR GETTING THE PROCESS STARTED.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE A GREAT PROCESS.

SOME THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK

YOU. >> BJ KALADY.

CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. I WAS GLAD IT WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY, BECAUSE A PUBLIC MESSAGE THROUGHOUT CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE ABOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY ANNOUNCES LISTENING AND LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS. RESIDENTS ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE. SURVEY CLOSES THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 30. I UNDERSTAND MR. ROBERSON THIS IS GOING TO BE EXTENDED AND NOT JUST ONE PERSON, BUT IT IS OTHER PEOPLE. I WOULD FIRST ASK THAT THIS -- THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY PAYS DOUBLE TAXES.

COUNTY AND CITY. AND SO WHOEVER -- WHOEVER GOT WITH OUR PUBLIC APERSON AT THE CITY CAN GET THE -- THE COUNTY SHOULD GET WITH THEM AND CLARIFY THIS SO IT CAN BE PUT IN A NEWS LEADER SO PEOPLE WHO DO HAVE A COMPUTER CAN FOLLOW THIS THROUGH BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSEDLY SURVEY CLOSED ON THE 30TH, BUT MR. ROBERSON SAID IT WILL BE EXTENDED.

AND I WISH THE GENTLEMAN FROM INSPIRE HAD PUT THE POWERPOINT AD THE BOOKOUT SIDE. IT MAY BE ON THE WEB SITE SO WE HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. SOMETIMES THE POWERPOINTS DON'T GET THERE. IT IS PRESENTED IN THE MEETING BUT NOT IN THE BACK-UP MATERIAL. AND HOPEFULLY THIS KIOSK AT THE LIBRARY FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A COMPUTER CAN LOOK AT THE HARD COPY. BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OF US STILL, YOU KNOW, IN THE OLD, OLD DAYS AND WE ARE NOT IN THE NEW, NEW DAYS BUT WE KNOW HOW TO WRITE WITH A PEN AND PIECE OF PAPER. SO HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL BE GOOD FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO KNOW. AND I AM BRINGING THIS UP ESPECIALLY BECAUSE -- IN SPEAKING TO IT BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TREES AND MAKING SURE THAT IS HANDLED WHENEVER WE GET TO THIS COMP PLAN. SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

BECAUSE WE ALL CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND IT IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY AND IT IS ABOUT THE LIVAB

LIVABILITY. >> I AGREE.

ED SLAVIN, EDSLAVIN.COM. KATHY BROWN, THE LONG-TIME HEAD OF THE COUNCIL OF AGING AND MEMBERS OF THE PZB IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. SAID THE PUD IS A SNEAKY WAY TO GET AROUND ZONING. DO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY TO ASK LEARNED COUNSEL THROUGH THE CHAIR, IS IT TRUE THAT MORE THAN

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HALF THE LAND USE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS IN PUDS? AND WHY IS THAT? AND WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS OF DEVELOPERS OF PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

THEY GET THE FIRST AND LAST WORD.

THEY HAVE UNLIMITED TIME. AND IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

JIMMY BRESLIN, HIS BOOK ON WATERGATE HOW THE GOOD GUYS FINALLY WON. ZONING AND LAND USE IN THE CONTEXT OF JOHN EHRLICH, OTHER WATERGATE FIGURES.

AND THERE IS APPEAR SUBTEXT IN EVERY PLANNING AND ZONING LAW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND THAT IS BRING EXTRA MONEY.

THAT IS A PROBLEM HERE. WE DON'T HAVE AN OMBUDSMAN FOR THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COMPANY. WE DON'T HAVE FAIR PROCEDURAL RULES. AS THE LATE CONGRESSMAN JOHN DANGLE SAID IF I WRITE THE RULES AND YOU RIGHT THE SUBSEQUENT LAW, I WIN EVERY TIME.

THE DEVELOPERS WROTE OUR RULES. THEY ARE REALLY BAD RULES.

THIS NOTION THAT PEOPLE ONLY GET THREE MINUTES -- AND UNDER PRIOR CHAIR -- UNDER PRIOR CACHE CHAIRS, THE CHAIR WILL HAVE ABILITY TO GIVE EXTRA TIME IF THEY ARE SAYING INTELLIGENT.

DFEATED BY THE VOTERS TWICE AND I VOTED AGAINST IT TWICE ON THE PROPOSED COUNTY CHARTER, I HAD FIVE PAGES OF STRENGTHENING 56789S. AND CHAIRMAN TOM MANUEL SAID YOU HAVE EXTRA TIME. 12 MINUTES.

YOU DON'T GIVE EXTRA TIME FOR AVERAGE CITIZENS WHO ARE CONCERNED OF DEFORESTATION. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS, FOLKS. DEFOREST RATION.

THAT IS THE ISSUE BEFORE US. THIS COMMISSION WOULDN'T DO A DOGGONE THING OF DEFORESTATION. WE DON'T GET INTELLIGENT REPORT FROM OUR STAFF. HOW MANY CRITTERS HAVE DIED.

WHAT IS THE WEIGHT OF ALL THE ANIMALS KILLED BECAUSE OF THE DEFORESTATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

AND WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN ALL THE FLOODING CAUSED BY THE DEFORESTATION.

AND SUFFERING FROM IT. 2 NEIGHBORS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FOLKS WITH BAD DECISIONS BASED ON THIS BOARD DICTATED BY DEVELOPERS ENOUGH. CAN WE HAVE THE CURRICULUM VITAE AND RESUMES EVER EVERY SINGLE PERSON WITH THE CONSULTANT.

CAN WE STOP USING SO MANY BUZZWORDS.

MY LEAST FAVORITE ONE IS STAKEHOLDERS.

AND KIND OF REMINDS ME OF "SNAKEHOLDERS."

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YO YOU.

>> HELLO, AGAIN, CHARLIE RUN IN THE MILL CREEK ESTATES.

SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING, KIND OF LIKE THE PRESENTATION THAT CAME OUT EARLIER LOOKS GOOD, SOUNDS NEAT, SOUNDS WONDERFUL.

WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE END? OKAY. THE PEOPLE HAVE A WORD.

YES, WE HAVE WORDS FOR SAY WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OKAY.

BUT REALLY, DOES THAT TELL ANY TYPE OF PURE SUBSTANCE TO WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DONE OR IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REWORDED AND DOES THE SAME THING.

PREVIOUSLY AS THE ONE NOW. THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

TAKING PIECES, REARRANGES THEM AND PUTTING THEM BACK TOGETHER.

THAT IS THE SAME THING. OR -- OR IT WILL NOT BE THE SAME IN A SENSE OF -- THERE WILL BE MORE -- MORE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED CHANGES FOR THE DEVELOPERS THAT IS RAPPING THIS COUNTY, OKAY. YES.

THE TREES. THE LAND.

THE PROPERTIES. OKAY.

2209? GREAT THAT THE STATE SENT MONEY DOWN AND WOULD LIKE TO THANK SENATOR TRAVIS HUDSON HAVING THAT MONEY CENTER DOWN TO US 2209 EXTENDED ON A ROAD THAT DIDN'T EXIST. AND TO BUILD A NEW ONE AND TO HAVE A -- OTHER ONES JUST FALL BY THE WAYSIDE.

OKAY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS COMPREHENSIVE. IT IS.

BUT IS IT COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH. WILL IT BE TO SERVE THE NORMAL PERSON ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. TO UNDERSTAND THE STRENGTH OF WHAT MONEY HAS. THAT IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF IT RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO A ROOM OF 100 NORMAL PEOPLE, THAT IS FINE.

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WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO -- YOU HAVE THE BIG BOYS IN THERE AND YOU HAVE A SIT AROUND AT THE TABLE, THAT IS WHERE IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS THEIR -- THEIR CAREER.

IT IS WHAT THEY DO. IT IS WHAT THEY KNOW.

IT IS WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THIS COUNTY TO PUT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOUSES ON TOP OF EVEN OTHER TO MAKE THEM ANT PILES. THAT'S WHAT I CALL "ANT PILES." TO BRING IN MORE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND WHEN THEY GET HERE, THEY REALIZE THAT, WOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS RIDICULOUSLY BAD. THE SCHOOLS ARE GREAT, BUT THEY ARE BEHIND TIMES ON GETTING TEACHERS.

BUT THE TEACHERS WILL GO -- PUT IN THEIR RESUME IF WE DON'T GET MONEY, WE WILL LEAVE. IT IS -- THIS IS THE MODERN BERMUDA TRIANGLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

[4. Public Hearing * REZ 2023-14 5461 & 5467 A1A S.]

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY.

WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD. THANK YOU, MR. ROBERSON AND MR. DOHERTY FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

>>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: MADAM CHAIR, THE NEXT ITEMS ARE ALL QUASI SDWRU DISH SHALL AND WILL NEED FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO ANNOUNCE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: I

HAVE NONE. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: I HAVE

NONE. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO MEETINGS.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. GOOD MORNING, MR. MILLER.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK THE COMMISSION FOR MEETING THIS MORNING. THANK THE STAFF AS WELL.

WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CONDENSING OF REZONING FOUR LOTS WHICH ARE CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND REZONE THEM INTO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WHICH WE HAVE DONE ON ITS ADJACENT PARCELS TO THE SOUTH AS WELL.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT IS IN RESIDENTIAL C. THE CURRENT ZONING IS CN OR COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH -- THAT PIECE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH WAS AS WELL. THERE WAS AN AERIAL OVERVIEW, THE FOUR LOTS, TWO OF THEM FRONT ON TO A1A.

THE OTHER TWO -- BACK ON TO -- TO FIRST STREET IN BUTLER BEACH.

HERE IS A SAMPLE OF ONE OF THE SITE PLANS.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE FOUR OF THEM ALL SHOWING THAT WE CONFORM TO THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL SETBACKS.

LOTS 9 AND 10 ARE ON A1A. AND LOTS 19 AND 20 ARE ON FIRST STREET. AND WE DID -- WE DID JOIN THEM ALL TOGETHER FOR ALL FOUR HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER AND HIGHLIGHTING HOW THEY INTEGRATE AND WORK WITHIN THE SETBACKS.

THE SAMPLE OF THE RENDERING OF A HOME TO BE BUILT, AND ACTUALLY ONE THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED. AND THEN SOME DETAILS ABOUT THE HOME. WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE P&Z AS WE PRESENTED MULTIPLE LOTS IN THE AREA WITH GOOD SUCCESS IN THE PAST AND DETAILS REGARDING THESE HOMES.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MR. MILLER.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: DO EACH HOUSE GO ON TO A 1A SEPARATELY.

>> TWO BEGUN ON TO A 1A AND TWO IN FIRST STREET IS THIS.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT.

>> 45 MILES PER HOUR. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: BACK UP.

IT IS A FREEWAY. >> IT IS A TURN AROUND AND THE ONES WE DID ADJACENT TO IT. IF YOU CAN SEE, JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THE ARROW, A SINGLE DRIVE THAT GOES ACROSS TWO LOTS.

YOU HAVE A SPOT YOU CAN BACK THE CAR IN AND PULL OUT FORWARD AS HAVE BEEN DONE ON THOSE PREVIOUS TWO PROPERTIES.

>> THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. HEARING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4. ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. I WILL OFFER A MOTION TO ENACT 2023- 5461 AND 5467 A 1A OF FINDS OF

[5. Public Hearing * REZ 2023-02 St. Marks Industrial.]

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FACT IN THE STAFF REPORT. QUARANTINE DEAN SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS, MR. MILLER.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. EX-PARTE, TO MY RIGHT,

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO

MEETINGS. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NO

EX-PARTE. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: I HAVE

NONE. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: NONE,

MADAM CHAIR. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. GOOD MORNING, MR. LAHTI.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> IF GOOD MORNING, MATT LAHTI, 225 STEALTH STATE A 1A SOUTH. HERE HERE TO DISCUSS THE REZONING OF A PARCEL TO THE SOUTH OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AT THE SAINT MARSH POND PROPERTIES.

THE SITE IS HERE OUTLINED IN BLUE.

JUST ABOUT 13 AND A QUARTER ACRES.

INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. U.S. 1.

OFF TO THE NORTHEAST. JUST A LOCATION MAP HERE.

PART OF THE LARGER PARCEL, 248 ACRES, JUST SUBDIVIDED THAT NORTHERN PORTION OFF FOR A FEW DIFFERENT REASONS.

EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IN THE REGION HERE ALL INDUSTRIAL.

A LITTLE BIT OF MIXED USE IN HERE AND THEN THE CORDOVA PONDS DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTHEAST. ZOOMING OUT BIT, MIXED USE.

COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. JUST TO THE WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS CMD LANDFILL JUST TO THE WEST.

EXCITING ZONING IS OPEN RURAL FOR 248-ACRE PARCEL.

PROPOSING A STRAIGHT REZONING TO IW FOR 13 AND A QUARTER ACRES. JUST SOME OF THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR IW SHOWING YOU THE LOT COVERAGE.

AND THE BUFFERS. PLAQUE AND WHITE IMAGE OF THE PROPOSED REZONING LIMIT HERE. WETLAND MAP.

JUST MARGINAL WETLANDS AROUND THE PERIMETER.

MAJORITY UPLANDS. AND -- I GUESS WHAT I WOULD CALL THE ANCHOR TENANT IS ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THIS.

VEMERE SOUTHEAST. HEAVY EQUIPMENT MACHINER AND SALES COMPONENT. WORKING WITH THE ST. JOHNS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO GET BONDS AND TAX CRED IT'S ISSUES. EXCITED TO HAVE THEM HOUSE THEIR -- THEIR REGIONAL FACILITY HERE. ANY QUESTIONS?

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YES, I DRIVE THAT GULF ROAD SO MUCH. SO MUCH TRAFFIC THERE.

WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE?

DO WE HAVE A TRAFFIC COUNT? >> NO, MA'AM, NO, I DON'T HAVE

THAT ONE FOR THAT VEMERE PARCEL. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I AM JUST CONCERNED, BECAUSE SO MUCH TRAFFIC AS IT IS.

AND IT IS CRAZY THERE ACTUALLY. >> I UNDERSTOOD.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ALL RIGHT, WE WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AGED DRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>> BJ KALADY, WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

IN READING THE AGENDA HERE, IT SAYS AFTER THE PZA RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS ADVISED THAT A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WAS A SUBJECT OF PENDING PRIVATE CIVIL LITIGATION. SO THIS MEANS THAT THE APPLICANT REDUCED THE ACREAGE FROM 15.98 TO 13.26.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE CIVIL LITIGATION IS ABOUT? AND ONCE THEY GET THAT HANDLED, THEY WILL COME BACK AND WANT TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO? SO I REALLY WONDER ABOUT THAT.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING? HAS ANYONE ASKED ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LITIGATION AND WHAT IS INVOLVED THERE AND WHAT THEY

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GET THIS THING THROUGH. WILL IT BE BACK HERE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AT THE 15.98 ACRES, IF ANYONE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> HI, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES.

YES, THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE HAS BECOME -- HAS BECOME HIGHLY, HIGHLY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC IN IT WITH -- AND WHAT IT STEMS FROM IS ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON ON U.S. 1 AND TAKE THE SHORTCUT DOWN THROUGH THAT AREA. AND WILL IT GET EXPANDED? WILL THAT ROAD GET EXPANDED? WILL IT MAKE IT FOUR LANES? WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT? WHAT IS IN THE PROPOSAL FOR THAT. SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES IN THERE, IT MEANS YOU MIGHT HAVE INDUSTRIAL SIZED VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT. WOULD THE OTHER PROPERTY WITH THE CEMENT COMPANY RIGHT THERE. THEY ARE RIGHT THERE AT THE TRACKS. SO -- BUT IT IS DOWN FROM IT.

TO SEE THAT PROPERTY BEING CLEARED AND MORE WAREHOUSE UNITS GETTING PUT IN, THAT IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE ONE UP ON 16 AND IGP AND PASETI WHERE -- YEAH, 2209 WILL GO BY HERE, SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT UP SOME WAREHOUSES FROM DECOY HIGH SCHOOL. WAREHOUSES, WAREHOUSES, WAREHOUSES. IT BECOMES A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE THEY NEED WAREHOUSE TYPE VEHICLES OR THE POPULATION THAT WORKS IN THEM THAT COMES IN AND OUT OR MORE CONGEST ED PEOPLE FROM PALENCIA SEE IT IS AND TRAFFIC MAY BE TOBACCOING UP FROM THE STARBUCKS DRIVE THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE WAREHOUSES.

THAT WILL MAKE THEM MORE UPSET. IT IS.

THIS IS MORE WAREHOUSE USES IN A COUNTY THAT IS BEING HIGHLY STRIPPED OF THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A COUNTY LIKE THIS.

WHERE IT WILL BE NICE AND RULED. BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT LIKE IT IS, JUST CROSS THE DUVAL COUNTY LINE.

THAT'S WHERE IT WILL BE DOWN HERE MINUS -- MINUS THE BIG CORPORATE INDUSTRIES BECAUSE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF DUVAL ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHAT IT WILL TURN OUT TO BE.

I LIVED IN THOSE AREAS AND I HAVE SEEN STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE JUST OVERDEVELOPED. OVERDEVELOPED.

OVERDEVELOPED. HELPING OUR ECONOMY.

HELPING OUR ECONOMY. DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD BUT NEEDS TO BE AT AS REASONABLE STATE AND ADDING MORE WAREHOUSE INTO A PROPERTY WHERE THERE IS ALREADY 500 SQUARE HOUSE SQUARE FEET DOWN THE ROAD WHERE DOES IT COME TO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. 911ANN TAYLOR, TOCK DRIVE, ST.

AUGUSTINE. I DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM THAT ROAD TO MY GYM. I DON'T KNOW WHO IS ON INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY. TWO LANED ROADS.

NO TURN LANE. ANOTHER CAR WITH A SINGLE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE. THAT ROAD IS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN THE PLANS FOR INTERNATIONAL GULF BUT A MAJOR THOROUGHWAY WITH ALL THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. SOMEONE THAT DRIVES THAT ROAD EVERY SINGLE DAY AND WILL TAKE ME LITERALLY 20 TO 30 MINUTES TO GO SEVEN TO NINE MILES NOTHING, 30 TO 40 MINUTES.

ALREADY CONGESTED. CONSIDER THOSE WHO LIVE NEARBY AND DRIVE IT ALL THE TIME. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO TO WIDEN IT AND GIVE PEOPLE A TURN LANE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YO YOU.

ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5? SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: TO MR. LAHTI, IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS AND BACK TO THE BOARD FOR

DISCUSSION. >> SURE.

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JUST TO ADDRESS SOME COUNTY TRAFFIC OUT OF THE GATE.

THIS KNOWN PROJECT THAT IS COMING HERE, YES, THIS IS IN THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ZONING, BUT THIS IS A SERVICE FACILITY AND THE MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU SEE IS LAID OUT FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

THERE WILL BE TRUCK TRAFFIC. THE IGP COMMERCE CENTER TO THE NORTH DID DO MASTER PLANNING FOR THIS PARCEL TO THE SOUTH EXTENDED THROUGH THE PUD, THEY WERE UPSIZED THE ENTIRE LAND USE ON THIS ENTIRE 48-ACRE PARCEL IS INDUSTRIAL.

AND WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT HERE BUT JUST ASKING TO IW TO HAVE THE COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE TURN LANES OUT HERE AT THE THOMAS INDUSTRY CENTER JUAN WAY.

RIGHT AND LEFT-HAND TURN LANES. APPLICANT IS WORKING PART OF THIS ASSOCIATION. AND COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THERE.

I WILL SAY MY SECOND JOB EVER WAS TO WORK AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFFICE AT THE IMAX THEATRE.

TAMPA IT HAS BEEN THE SAME TWO-LANE ROAD FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS. SO SOME OF OUR VISIONING AS WE DO THIS COMP PLAN AND DOING THIS IS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE EXISTING ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME CONDITION BUT I DON'T ANY YOU WILL SEE AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM THIS. IT IS NOT -- NOT MINI STORAGE.

NOT HIGH TRAFFIC. TO DROP OFF RENTAL EQUIPMENT TO BE FOR SALE EQUIPMENT, ETC. WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE

BOARD? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I DON'T HAVE ONE FOR MR. LAHTI.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT.

I DON'T DRIVE IP EVERY DAY. BUT I WAS DRIVING IT YESTERDAY MORNING FROM U.S. 1 TO SWAMP ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 16 IN PASETI.

AND THE -- THAT STRETCH IS PRETTY CROWDED YESTERDAY MORNING, IT WAS PRETTY CLOUDED. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK -- AND IT CUTS THROUGHOUT MIDDLE OF 12-MILE SWAMP.

RELUCTANT TO THINK THAT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WILL AGREE TO A FOUR LANE THROUGH THAT.

HAVING SAID THAT -- LOUDER? I WILL SAY THIS, THAT I DON'T THINK THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT IS LARGE ENOUGH OR WILL GENERATE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC. I WILL REFLECT AND RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THIS, BUT I DO WANTON ASK EITHER MIKE IF THEY HAVE ANY OBSERVATIONS OF CURRENT TRAFFIC OR FUTURE TRAFFIC ON WHAT IS -- IN A WAY IT SORT OF REMINDS ME OF 16 WHERE OFF TWO-LANE ROAD THAT IS STILL SORT OF AGRARIAN PLEASANT COUNTRY ROAD AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN WE DID 50 YEARS AGO.

>> YES, SIR, DICK DE-SOUZA, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THIS IS CURRENTLY A TWO-LANE ROAD AND TO SHOW YOU WHERE AUTHORIZATION IS.

THERE IS AN OBLIGATION FOR THE ST. JOHNS DRI TO IMPROVE THIS ROADWAY TO MEET OUR CURRENT COLLECTOR STANDARDS.

CURRENTLY THE ROAD IS NARROWER, BOTH INTO TRAVEL LANES AND RIGHT-OF-WAY IN TOTAL THAN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR A COLLECTIVE ROAD BECAUSE OF NATURE OF HOW THIS ROAD BECAME TO BE. THE ST. JOHNS DRI HAS AN OBLIGATION TO UPGRADE THIS ROAD. TRIGGERED BY TRIPS AND TIME.

THEY ARE CLOSER TO THE TRIPS THAN THE TIMELINE.

THEY PROACTIVELY MET WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS THIS ROAD IN PARTICULAR AND WIDENING OF THAT WILL BE IN THE 12-FOOT TRAVEL LANE, FIVE-FOOT PAVED SHOULDERS. WHAT OUR CURRENT CROSSSECTION SHOWS. IN ADDITION, ANYTHING IN THERE WE ARE ASKING TO PUT IN THE TURN LANES THAT ARE REQUISITE AND AUCTION AILRY LANES. NOT A CAPITAL PLAN PER SE FOR WIDENING OF THE ROAD BUT DRI TO IMPROVE IT AND TO MAKE IT A MORE -- A MORE MODERNIZED ROADWAY, SOMETHING THAT ABLE TO HOLD THE CAPACITY OF VEHICLES THAT WOULD YOU EXPECT TO SEE ON THERE.

ADDITIONALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THAT CURVE IS, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT.

THE CIP TO IMPROVE THAT CURVE TO MAKE IT SO IT IS A LESSER SHARP CURVE. MORE OF A GRADUAL CURVE, SO THAT

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WAY WE DON'T HAVE THIS SPEEDING ISSUE THAT OCCURS CURRENTLY AT THE CURVE. WE HAVE THE SHARP CURVE WHERE YOU ARE FORCED TO SLOW DOWN AND WE WILL BE MODIFYING THAT AND THE IM3R06D TURN LANE. WE ARE BOUND WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE HUNTING LEASE AS WELL. WITH THAT EASEMENTS BEING -- EXISTING THERE, IT IS DIFFICULT FOR US TO EXPAND MUCH INTO THAT.

AGAIN, WE WILL SEE AN IM3R06789 THERE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE TO AT LEAST MAKE IT SO IT IS EASIER TO TRAVERSE WITH THE WHITEN OF THE LANES. I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE, BUT DRI OBLIGATION AND THEY ARE CLOSE TO HITTING THE THRESH, THRESHOLD ON TRANSCRIPTS AS WELL.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANK YOU. IF THERE NO OTHER QUESTIONS --

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WOULD LIKE

TO SPEAK. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT I AM NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS, BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE GETS BEHIND WITH THIS.

WE SAY, OH, WELL IN THE FUTURE IT WILL BE UPGRADED.

THEN YOU GET STUCK. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD. IT IS THE ONLY IN AND OUT O OF PALENCIA. IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD AND, I AM SORRY, I AM NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, DAD TAM CHAIR, WE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER OF THE CONSERVATION OF THE TREE CANOPY. AND ONE OF THE OBSTACLES OF GETTING THE ROAD WIDEN IN THE CONNER IS VAFTHS TREE CANOPY.

THAT IS KIND OF INTERESTING. THROUGH THE CHAIRWOMAN, WE HAVE DIFFERENT RULES FOR SORT OF COMMERCIAL APPROVALS THAN WE DO FOR RESIDENTIAL APPROVALS. THIS SUBJECT TO CONCURRENCY REQUIREMENTS? THIS PROJECT CONCURRENT?

>> NO, ANY NONRESIDENTIAL IS WHAT IS EXEMPT FROM COMMERCIAL.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: MISS VALER, FUTURE LAND USE IS INDUS INDUSTRIAL?

>> WHATEVER IS THE BEGINNING OF THE STAFF REPORT.

WILL LAHTI, FUTURE LAND USE MAP LOOKS LIKE INDUSTRIAL.

>> FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS INDUSTRIAL.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THAT YELLOW CORRIDOR THERE.

AND THIS PROJECT IS NOT GETTING ANY IMPACT FEE CREDITS AND THEY WILL BE PAYING THEIR FULL FAIR SHARE OF TRANSPORTATION IMPACT

FEES TO GO TOWARD THE FUND. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: I WANTED TO CLARIFY AND WE ARE IN A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING AND MAKE MY DECISION BASED ON WHAT IS EVIDENCE HERE.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? A MOTION?

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: LET ME PREFACE MY MOTION BY SAYING I WILL PROBABLY AS LONG AS I SERVE ON THAT BOARD WILL HAVE GROWING CONCERN OVER SOME OF THE TRAFFIC LOAD ON IGP. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT I DON'T THINK IS ADDING A REAL SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

AND PROBABLY WHAT -- WHAT DECIDES MY MOTION I AM ABOUT TO MAKE IT IS THE FACT THAT PZA VOTED 5-0 TO APPROVE THIS AND I TRY TO LISTEN TO THE PZA UNLESS I REFUSE TO LISTEN.

THAT IS MY DECIDING FACTOR. I WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM TO MOVE -- MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023 --

>> 52. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: APPROVING REZONING 2023-02, SAINT MARKS INDUSTRIAL BASED ON FOUR

[Public Comment ( Part 1 of 2 )]

FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

LET'S VOTE. HAND THIS PASSES 4-1.

CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY, MOVING ON TO -- ACTUALLY WE ARE GOING TO INTO GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

11:32. MR. VICE-CHAIR, 0 MINUTES AND THEN ADJOURN FOR LUNCH AND COME BACK FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE

AGENDA. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: MADAM CHAIR, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY PERSON COME TO THE BOARD AND A STATE HIS HER NAME AND ADDRESS AND THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM. AND COMMENTS ON THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER.

NO SHOULD ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH IMPERMANENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS. NONSHOULD HAVE DISRUPTION OF ANY APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL. ANY MATERIALS, PRESENT TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU.

>> CHUCK LEBONOWSKI. AT THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED OF REGULATIONS ON THE BEACHES AS FAR AS ELECTRIC

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VEHICLES ARE CONCERNS. I WENT AND DID A LOT OF RESEARCH. AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND I GOTTEN 50 E-MAILS TRYING TO SELL ME E-BIKES. RIDICULOUS.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION.

IT IS CATEGORIZEDED IN THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. ONE OF THEM IS ELECTRIC, 20 MILES PER HOUR. PEDAL AND ELECTRIC, 20 MILES PER HOUR. IF YOU GO INTO THE NEXT WITH THE PEDAL ASSIST, UP TO 28 MILES PER HOUR ON THE BEACH.

SOME OF THE CLASSES THAT THEY PUT IT INTO TO.

HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES. 35 MILES PER HOUR FOR AN E-BIKE.

ANOTHER ONE. 3 MILES PER HOUR FOR AN E-BIKE.

28 MILES PER HOUR. HERE IS THE CONCERNING PART.

SOME OF THE E-BIKES GET UP TO 16 MILES PER HOUR.

AND WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THIS ON THE BEACHES? IN THE PEDESTRIAN AREA? WE NEED TO RESTRICT WHERE THESE E-BIKES ARE GOING TO. NOW I KNOW THERE IS NO REGULATIONS FOR KIDS HAVING E-BIKES.

NONE THAT I HAVE SEEN. THERE ARE WITH GOLF CARTS.

BUT ARE THERE ANY WITH E-BIKES? I KNOW WITH OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW AND WE CAN'T CONTROL IT AS FAR AS THE HOA IS CONCERNED.

WE HAVE KIDS ON E-BIKES RUNNING ON THE SIDEWALKS AND LITERALLY RUNNING PEOPLE OFF THE SIDEWALK. AGAIN, THESE ARE -- THESE ARE 12 AND 13-YEAR-OLD KIDS ON THESE E-BIKES.

IT IS VERY CONCERING THAT WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW E-BIKES OUT THERE THAT CAN GO THIS SPEED. LET'S KEEP THEM IN TO WHERE THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS. WHEN I HIT THE BEACH, I AM ALLOWED TO GO CITIZEN MILES PER HOUR WITH HEADLIGHTS ON.

AND I WAVED DOWN LAST WEEKEND BECAUSE I WAS GOING TOO FAST.

I WAS DOING 11 MILES PER HOUR. AND I GOT WEIGHED DOWN.

HOW IN THE HECK WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE CONTROLLING THE BEACH RIGHT NOW AND HOW TO CONTROL THE E-BIKES WHERE ALL THE PEDESTRIANS ARE SUNBATHING FISHING AND RUNNING IN AND OUT OF THE WATER. GOT TO BE REGULATED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.

KEEP THE VEHICLES TRAFFIC WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. >> JOE MCINERNEY BLACKBERRY LANE. I WANTED TO ASK TYLER IF HE WILL PUT SOMETHING UP FOR ME. I NEVER KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THESE. SO I AM SORRY.

HERE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND THANK YOU TO OUR COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 1, PETITION CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST.

RESIDENTS SAID HELP SAVE OTO'S PLACE.

WE SAUL SEE HOW GORGEOUS I IS OTO'S PLACE.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST RESPONDED AND HE SAID HE WOULD BE PERSONALLY WORKING WITH STAFF MAKING SURE THAT OUR CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED. SO I'M HERE TODAY TO -- TO SAY THAT ONE OF THOSE WHICH WAS BUT PLEASE CONSIDER A 35-FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE ON EITHER SIDE OF OTO'S PLACE.

OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WILL BE REQUIRED THAT THE COUNTY WILL PUT THAT FORWARD AND REQUIRE THAT.

SO HATS OFF TO -- TO COMMISSIONER WHITE HURG FOR THAT. THANK YOU SO AS MUCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET IS WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY WILL COMMENT THROUGH AND SAY DO NOT CUT ANY TREES OR REMOVE ANY MEDIANS WITHIN A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO, COMMISSIONER, THAT IS STILL ON THE TABLE. WE HOPE YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL ON THAT. SO -- BUT LOOK, CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. I'M HERE TODAY TO, AGAIN, SPEAK UP. HATS OFF.

AND GIVE THANKS TO OUR DISTRICT 1 COMMISSIONER, CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU OPINION.

ANYONE ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COM

COMMENT? >> OKAY.

HELLO, AGAIN, CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THIS FOR A RECORD.

AN E-MAIL I SENT TO EACH ONE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND I HAVE IT RETURNING READ AND EVERYTHING.

SO -- BUT FOR -- I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE 345I8 THAT I SENT OUT.

SAID -- HELLO TO ALL. THE DESIGN INTERSECTION 16 -- OR

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STATE ROAD 16 TO 2 09 IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF FUNDING NEW ROADS WITH EXISTING ROADS NEED IMPROVEMENT.

THE ORIGINAL LUMP SUM AWARDED IN JULY OF 2020 WAS 149,799.78.

A CHANGE ORDER WHICH I HAVEN'T OPINION ABLE TO FIND THIS, $499,799.78 WAS AWARDED. THAT IS AN INCREASE OF 230%.

230%. NO BIG DEAL.

WHICH BRINGS THE TOTAL TO $649,797.78.

NOW COMING UP, ONLY AN INCREASE OF 55%.

MAY SOUND VIABLE. BUT WITH THE FEBRUARY IT SHOWS THEY ARE WANTING TO INCREASE OF $365 NOW, 271.

WHICH WILL GIVE THE TOTAL AMOUN WHICH WILL GIVE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1 SNOUSHGS 0-- 1,6,000 AM 8. FROM JULY UNTIL NOW, THAT PRONG HAS BEEN IS CREASED OF 570% 570%.

HOLY COW. IS FROM IS A SURVEY FROM A HIGHLY WELL KNOWN COMPANY IS -- IS THAT A LOW BID TO GET THE OFFER AND COME IN AND PUT ALL THESE CHANGES TO JACK IT UP? OKAY. THAT IS PATHETIC.

THAT IS SO PATHETIC. THE COUNTY OFFERS MORE MONEY TO THIS COMPANY. TO RAISE UP 570%.

THANK YOU. >> FRANCIS LUNBERG.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL.

ABOUT SIX YEARS AND I HAVE KNOWN MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE ALMOST 60. SHORE DRIVE RESIDENTS HAVE OPENLY MAINTAINED THE LAND ACROSS FROM THE MATANZAS RIVER, AND OCCUPIED IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME SOME WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE REAL OWNER. BELIEVING THEY WERE THE REAL OWNER AND OCCUPIED IT AS IF THEY OWNED IT.

SKIP IT AROUND HERE. THE PARK WAS STRETCHED.

AND IN THE MID-1950S. THE CHANNEL IN THE PARK WAS DREDGED. AND IN THE MID-1950S.

AND IT WAS DONE BY A LOCAL BUILDER, MR.BANE.

MR. BANE AND HIS FAMILY LIVERED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR FIVE GENERATIONS. PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOVE PARK THE WAY IT IS. WE DO NOT NEED A TRAIL BUILT ON THE PARK LAND. THE TRAIL WAS OFFERED TO US FROM PARKS AND REC. THEY TOOK OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SHORE DRIVE PARK. THEY SENT US A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER TELLING RESIDENTS TO STAY OFF THE PARK MAINTAINING IT FOR OVER 60 YEARS. THE CONCEPTION WAS BROUGHT US TO A FEW YEARS AGO FOR THE TRAIL. WE AS THE RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT IT. BE TRIED TO FIGHT IT.

WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGHT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE TRAIL AND DON'T WANT THE NUISANCE BROUGHT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE PARKS AND REC ANNUAL BUDGET.

IT IS ABANDONED A AND BLIGHTED THE PARKLAND.

CURRENT TRAILS AND PARKS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE IN POOR CONDITION TODAY. THE SHORE DRIVE WATERFRONT PLANT SEEMS TO BE IS A SUBSTITUTE FOR A PROPER ROAD WITH FOUR-FOOT SHOULDERS AND A FOUR IN-FOOT SIDEWALK.

IT IS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE TRAIL WILL GET PEOPLE OFF THE ROAD WITH WALKING, BIKING AND STROLLERS AND VIA MORE OF A SAFETY SITUATION. WHEN IN FACT, THE TRAIL DESIGN

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IS IN MANY PLACES ALONG THE THREE AND A HALF MILES WITHIN TWO FEET OF THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT.

A LOT OF AREAS WITHIN FOUR TO SIX FEET OF THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE THE TRAIL IS BEING SHOVED DOWN OUR THROAT AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR A DRIVEWAY -- EXCUSE ME FOR A SIDEWALK. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THE REVERSE EFFECTS OF PARKS ON PROPERTIES ABUTTING GOVERNMENT-OWNED PARKS.

IT IS OBJECT YUNGS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY THAT THE -- OBVIOUS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY THAT THE PROPERTY VALUE ALSO GO DOWN.

THAT THE HOUSES IN POOR CONDITION USUALLY BRING DOWN PROPERTY VALUES AND WE BELIEVE --

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY THAT IS NO YOU A GREEN SPACE HAVING A TRAIL WILL BRING DOWN OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THIS AND FOR MANY REASONS, WE ARE AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOYOU

. >> I AM OLD-FASHIONED.

I JUST HAVE MY PAPERWORK. I MEAN PHOTOS --

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: MA'AM, IF YOU WANT TO PUT THEM IN THE CENTER OF THE PODIUM, WE CAN PROJECT THEM ON TO THE SCREENS.

>> YOU JUST PUT IT HERE. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: FLIP IT OVER. FACE UP.

>> OH, OKAY. THAT IS GOOD.

GOOD GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

I NEED HELP WITH THIS. >> I WILL HELP WITH THE PHOTOS.

>> I AM -- -- IT IS THE SAME PROJECT, THE TRAIL.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> MICHLIN BALDWIN, ST. AUGUSTINE.

FIRST I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE NEW -- THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.

YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF THIS PROJECT, I'M HERE TO SHOW YOU

THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO IT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YO YOU.

>> THE SHORE DRIVE PROJECT THAT WILL COME TO YOU FOR PERMIT.

HOPEFULLY IN YOUR WISDOM -- CHANGE IT -- HOPEFULLY IN YOUR WISDOM WILL DENY THE CLEAR CUTTING OF THREE AND A HALF MILES THAT WILL CAUSE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE AND AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. PLEASE KNOW THAT THE PROXIMITY OF THAT TAN ZA DRIVE TO THE RIVER WILL MEAN THE TRAIL WILL BE SWALLOWED IN NO TIME CREATING IRREPUTABLE DAMAGES DAMAGES AND EXPENSIVE DREDGING ON THE RIVER BANK.

LET IT BE KNOWN THAT SHORE DRIVE IS THE ONLY PARK DESIGNATED AS A PICNIC PARK IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WEB SITE.

NAY IT IS VERY SPECIAL. TO BUILD A BIKE TRAIL CLOSER TO ENJOY THE VIEW. THE EROSION AREA SHOWN IN THE PHOTOS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE LEFT OF THE LADY ENJOYING HER WALK. ALL BEFORE THE TRAIL MADE THE SAME FATE. SCARY.

THE WATER FRONT ALREADY SUFFERS CRITICAL EROSION AND FLOODING.

WE NEED THE TREES TO KEEP SOIL IN PLACE.

IF ASPHALT IS POURED IN THE PARK, IT WILL MAKE A RESULT -- MAKE EROSION WORSE NO MATTER WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY.

IT IS COMMON SENSE. AND ALSO WILL REMAIN WATER FOR MUCH LONGER AFTER STORM. PLEASE NOTE THE LARGE NEWLY CUT AREA ALL THE WAY TO THE WATER EDGE.

NOW SIMPLE RAIN WILL CAUSE THE SOIL TO WASH IN THE RIVER PARK AND RECREATION LOOKING LIKE A BASEBALL FIELD WITH AT THAT ROAD IN THE MIDDLE. THAT IS THEIR VISION SINCE THEY TOOK OVER. IT SHOULD BE EXPLORED FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WALK IN THE PARK. SIDEWALK AND BIKE LANE OPINIONED LOESH MAINTENANCE. THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO APPROVE THE COMPLIANT TRAIL THAT WE HAVE THAT IS OPEN TO ALL.

NOW YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW HOT THE ASPHALT IS IN THE SUMMER WARMING AND BECOMING MORE FREQUENT. PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY AVOID THE PARK FOR SAFETY REASONS. HURRICANE SEASON OAR IT WILL BE UNDER WATER AND DEFEATS TRAIL BENEFITS IF THERE IS ANY IN CASE. WATER SAFETY AND BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN IS NOT WELL MATCHED WALKING THESE DOGS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY IS A SERIOUS SAFETY HAZARD.

THE TREASURE PARK -- >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK

YOU, MA'AM. >> THE WELL BEING OF THE ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU.

HI, I AM DIANE CAMPBELL, 138 LINDEN ROAD AND ALSO HERE TO

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DISCUSS THE TRAIL ON SHORE DRIVE.

I LIVED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR 40 YEARS.

AND I CHOSE TO BUY MY HOME IN ST. AUGUSTINE SOUTH ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SCENERY AND ALL THE OAK TREES THAT GROW ON THE RIVER.

I HAVE BEEN ON SHORE DRIVE COUNTLESS TIMES AND NEVER THOUGHT TO MYSELF WITH AN EIGHT-FOOT-DRIVE TRAIL THROUGH THE BEAUTIFUL SPACE BE AN ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I NEVER FELT UNSAFE BECAUSE OF VEHICLES WHILE WALKING MY DOGS OR RIDING BIKES OR EVEN TAKING MY GRANDKIDS DOWN THERE TO PLAY.

ON THE GREEN SPACE. I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS,ING THE PROPOSED TRAIL ON SHORE DRIVE.

MOST ARE OPPOSED. OUR FEELING IS THE TRAIL BELONGS IN A PARKLIKE SETTING NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW MANY TREE ALSO HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND VEGETATION THAT WILL BE CLEAR CUT.

ALSO THE USE OF THE ENVIRONMENTALLY UNFRIENDLY CHOICE OF ASPHALT. AND MORE VEHICLES COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I JUST HOPE THE COMMISSIONERS WILL RECONSIDER THE ALLOTTED GRANT MONEY FOR OTHER PROJECTS FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS AND RECOGNIZE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YO YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, SUSAN MILLRICK, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I'M HERE TO COMPLAIN OF THE BOONDOGGLE KNOWN AS THE SHORE DRIVE TRAIL.

I LIVED ON SHORE DRIVE FOR 18 YEARS NOW.

LAST HURRICANE, WE HAD WHITE CAPS ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.

ACROSS THE STREET, I MEAN FROM HERE TO THERE.

I HAD WHIEP C-- WHITE CAPS. KNEE-HIGH BITE CAPS.

ALL OF SHORE DRIVE ON SEPTIC TANKS.

THE WHOLE THREE-MILE TRAIL HAS OLD SEPTIC TANKS ALL AROUND IT.

THEY WILL DIG UP THE BUFFER THAT KEEPS THE RUNOFF FROM GOING INTO THE MATANZAS RIVER FOR WHAT? FOR WHAT PURPOSE? HAVE IT UNDER WATER. A BOONE DOINGLE THAT THE TAXPAYERS DON'T NEED TO PAY FOR IT.

THE TRAIL COULD BE GRAVEL. THE TRAIL COULD BE NARROWER.

THE TRAIL COULD BE A SIDEWALK. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE 12-FOOT-WIDE PAVED. IN MANY AREAS, THE TRAIL IN THE ROAD WILL BE SIDE BY SIDE JUST LIKE IS THIS.

SO THE CARS CAN JUST VEER OFF AND KNOCK OFF ALL THOSE PEDESTRIANS RIGHTS ALONG THE WAY.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH ANYBODY GETTING HURT ON ON SHORE DRIVE. THE SPEED LIMIT CAN BE REDUCED.

HOW ABOUT THAT IDEA. INSTEAD OF 25 MILES PER HOUR MAKE IS 15 WITH THE PARK ROAD. WE WILL SPEND OVER $1 MILLION TOO BUILD THIS TRAIL. IT WILL FLOOD SO THE RUNOFF FROM THE SEPTIC WILL GO INTO THE RIVER.

THEY ALSO -- I HAVE AN ARCHAEOLOGY STUDY END KWAN REMAINS. A MANDIBLE IN THE '80S.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.

WE ASKED TO SEE THE NEW ONE THEY DID.

NINE SAYS INDIAN REMAINS ALL OF THE WAY.

THEY CLAIMED PARKS AND REC THERE WAS TO ONLY ONE.

BUT THEY WILL NOT SHOW US THIS STUDY BECAUSE THE TREASURE HUNTERS WILL HAD BEEN OUT THERE. TREASURE HUNTERS? AND DIG IT ALL UP? I DON'T KNOW.

DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR ME. E-BIKES.

I MEAN, WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THAT.

WHAT IS THIS FROM PREVENT INTERESTING TRAIL TO BE A RACEWAY FOR GOLF CARTS, E-BIKES, I DON'T KNOW.

I ALSO -- IT IS GOING TO BE A PARKING NIGHTMARE.

THE PARKING HAVEN'T BEEN FIGURED OUT TO MY SATISFACTION -- OH, THAT'S IT? I AM DONE? CONGO LINE PARKING. JUST ENVISION IT.

THANK YOU.

[6. Public Hearing * PLAT 2023-21 Orchard Park Phase 3.]

. >> WE ARE BACK.

WE ARE STARTING THE SECOND HALF OF OR BOARD MEETING STARTING WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. MR. BURNETT.

EX-PARTE. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

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>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: I

HAVE NONE, MADAM CHAIR. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: I HAVE NON.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NONE. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NONE.

>> FOR THE RECORD DOUG BARNETT, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP IN ST.

AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. HERE WITH MY CLIENT KB HOME.

DEREK SATINO. JAME SOMERSET WAS HERE EARLIER AND HE HAD A COMMITMENT HE HAD TO LEAVE FOR.

SO OFTEN I'M HERE AND ISSUE IS PURELY THE DEVELOPER OR THE BUILDER IN THIS CASE IT. THIS ACTUALLY HAD A LITTLE MORE HISTORY TO IT. AND I WANT TO SLOW DOWN WHY WE ARE HERE AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

A SIMPLE PLAT APPROVAL. AN APPROVED PUD FOR HISTORY THI APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY FROM PZA. DR. HILSENBECK WAS SECONDED.

WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONERS. PAUL WALDRON'S DISTRICT AND HE MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PUD.

PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT, A HUMAN INTEREST ASPECT TO THIS PROJECT THAT IS PROBABLY ASSENT FROM A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE COME BEFORE YOU. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAT THAT YOUR -- THAT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE. I HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL OF THE OUTLAY OF THE PROJECT, YOU CAN SEE THE OVERALL PROPERTY BOUNDARY ON THE LEFT.

ON THE RIGHT IS THE BIGGER PICTURE.

THIS IS ORCHARD PARK II. AN ORCHARD PARK 1.

AND IF I LAID OUT A PLAT, YOU WILL SEE HOW IT SHAPES UP IN THE AERIAL. FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON THE PARCELS OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

IF YOU ZOOM IN ON THESE, FROM THE YELLOW TO THE RIGHT IS THE PLATTED PROPERTY THAT IS BEFORE YOU TO THE LEFT IS THE PITTMAN AND DRILL HOME. THEY HAVE EASEMENT RIGHT TO THEIR PROPERTY. YOU GO BACK IN TIME TO 20 YEARS A AGO.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION WHEN A SURVEYOR WENT OUT TO SURVEY THE DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY THAT THE PITTMAN HOME WAS APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET OVER THE BOUNDARY BOUNDARY.

AND THAT WAS RESCHOOL OF THE WITH A QUITCLAIM DEED THAT GAVE THEM APPROXIMATELY 20 MORE FEET OF THEIR PROPERTY AND THE ZONING WENT ON FORWARD. FAST FORWARD TO NOW, AND WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROJECT TO GET THE PROJECT APPROVED ON THE PUD, THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY FOR THE MITTMAN HOME, AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE A SETBACK.

A AN EXISTING CONFORMING USE AND THEY CAN NEVER EXPAND THEIR PROPERTY THE WAY IT IS. NEVER CAN EXPAND THEIR HOME AND AN EXISTING CONFORMING USE. ONE OF THE THING KB LOOKED AT HOW TO FIX THAT AND GIVE THEM LONG-ACCESS.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS TO MODIFY THE DESIGN OF THE PUD TO HAVE A PARCEL IN FRONT OF THE PITTMAN HOME AND THE DRILL HOME WHERE THAT COULD BE DEEDED TO THEM. THEY WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY. IT IS OPEN SPACE/ACCESS.

THE ADDED THING WAS, IT GETS THEM TO A PUBLIC ROAD.

THIS IS A 20-YEAR SAGA. AN OLD PUD.

IT SHOWS YOU THE HISTORY GOING BACK 20 YEARS AGO AND WHERE THE PROPERTIES ACTUALLY ACCESS THROUGH THE PUD.

AND THE EASEMENT THAT WAS CREATED NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO WHERE THEY GOT ACCESS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN THERE, IT ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED THAT THE EASEMENT WOULD TERMINATE WHEN THEY GET PUBLIC ACCESS. THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ALWAYS GIVE THEM PUBLIC ACCESS TO THEM. ONE PRACTICAL THING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAT THAT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY WILL NOW HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS THROUGH WILDWOOD THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION. YOU LOOK TO ORCHARD PARK ROAD, BECAUSE THEY ARE OLDER LEGACY PUD.

THAT IS WHY KB HAS ME HERE TODAY IN PART BECAUSE THEY MADE THE COMMITMENT THEY WOULD DO THIS. IT WAS PART OF OUR PUBLIC PRESE PRESENTATION, WITH AND IN FACT, WHICH MEETINGS WITH THE PITTMANS AND THE DRILLS.

I WILL ALSO TELL YOU A LITTLE BEING ABOUT THE CACHE PITTMAN FAMILY THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

THEY ARE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS AT THIS LOCATION.

I BELIEVE THAT MR. PITTMAN AND MR. WALDRON WERE PERSONAL FRIENDS. RICKY PITTMAN, AS I KNOW HIM, ONE OF THE FIRST DUI TRIALS THAT I PROSECUTED.

HE WAS A DEPUTY. DEPUTY FOR 25 YEARS.

AND. ALSO HE WAS FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARDSMAN AND ARMY NATIONAL GUARD FOR 13 YEARS AND WAS

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ACTUALLY DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN.

THE FIRST TIME THIS MESS WENT THROUGH SOME 18 YEARS AGO, HE WAS DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN AND GETTING A CALL FROM HIS WIFE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES. HIS WIFE, BY THE WAY, TINA PITTMAN WORKS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THEY ARE REALLY GOOD FOLKS. THE ONE REQUEST THEY MADE THAT KB HAS ALSO HONORED .IN THE PLAT THEY LOST THEIR SON.

RICKY IS MY AGE. THEY LOST THEIR SON.

AND HE ASKED IF WE WOULD NAME THE ROAD PITTMAN COURT.

SO THE LEGACY OF THEIR FAMILY IS ON THE ROAD WHICH KB HAS DONE AND THEY ARE ON THE PLAT. THE ASPECT WHY WE ARE HERE AND WHY THE PLAT IS ASKING YOU FOR THE PUBLIC ROAD MANY ASPECTS THAT ARE 20 YEARS OLD AND A NEW PUD.

IT WAS AN OLDER PUD WHERE WE CONTINUED ON AND HAVE THE REQUEST FOR PUBLIC ACCESS AND MAKE THE ROADS ACCESSED WITH PARTS OF THE ACCESS TRACT. WILL BE DEEDED TO THE PITTMAN FAMILY AND HAVE ADDITION SAL PROPERTY IN FRONT OF OUR HOME AND TOUCH OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY AND HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO OUR HOME.

THAT IS THE BIG PICTURE WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHY THIS ONE IS UNUSUAL AND GOT TO THIS REQUEST. KB HOME MADE THE COMMITMENT AND DIDN'T WANT TO IMPACT WHAT THEY DID TO THIS PROCESS.

WITH THAT, WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. BURNETT. SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION IN

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: JUST A COMMENT. WE ARE HERE TO ACCEPT THE FINAL PLAT ON A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BUT WAS APPROVED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD, WE CAN CHOOSE TO SEPTEMBER MAINTENANCE OF THE INTERNAL ROADS OR WE CAN ASK THOSE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR IT I THINK WITH THE CONSTRAINTS ON OUR BUDGET.

I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO ASK THE HOMEOWN TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE INTERNAL ROADS THAT WE HAV SO MANY TIMES IN THE PAST AND WON'T PREVENT US FROM APPROVING THE PLAT, BUT LOOKING OUT TO THE DOLLARS MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ME. WHERE I AM ON THIS ONE.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I AM THE OPPOSITE.

THE HOMEOWNER THOUGHT OF THE PEOPLE.

GAVE THEM ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.

IT IS ONE SMALL ROAD. I REALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER -- COMMISSIONER ALAIM SNOSHGS.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

I WILL BE ANTICIPATE TO OFFER A MOTION.

MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023---

>> 468. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT FOR ORCHARD PARK PHASE 3.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE. WAIT --

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: MADAM CHAIR, I WANT TO BE CLEAR, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE ROADS TO IT BE PUBLIC -- FOR THE COUNTY TO PAIN

IN TAINE THE ROAD. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ASKING

THE HOMEOWNERS. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: WAIT,

WAIT, WE NEED CLARIFICATION. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THAT

IS WHY I WANTED CLARIFICATION. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: WE NEED

TO REVISE? >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: I BELIEVE

SO. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: I WANT THE INTENT OF THE MOTION SO I CAN CLEAR HOW TO VOTE.

>>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: THE MOTION AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT WOULD BE THE -- THE COST WOULD BE ON THE COUNTY.

IF THAT IS NOT WHAT YOUR INTENT WAS, YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND FEEL FREE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

MOTION TO ADOPT RESTITUTION # 2023-

>> 468. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT WITH ORCHARD PARK PHASE 3 WITH THE EXPENSE NOT

[7. FEMA Public Assistance Category G (Permanent Work) for Hurricanes Ian and Nicole, specifically South Ponte Vedra Beach.]

BEING ON THE COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY, DO

WE HAVE A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST:

SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE.

AND THAT PASSES 4-1. THANK YOU, VICE-CHAIR ALAIMO.

MOVING ON. TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.

DR. GIAMMANCO. >>AFTER NOON, JOSEPH GIAMMANCO,

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TALKING OVER THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH PROJECT.

PROJECT ORIENTATION SO WE CAN ORIENTATE OURSELVES FROM T THE SERENADA HALF A MILE NORTH OF THE EXXON STATION IS THE LOCATION WE WILL BE TALK ABOUT. ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MILES.

IT IS ELIGIBLE THROUGH THE FEMA PROCESS.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE IF WE CAN GET A MAINTENANCE PLAN AND A -- KIND OF A LONG-TERM PROJECT GOING IN THIS AREA THAT FEMA WILL COME BACK AND ASSIST WITH FUND GOING THERE IS A -- IF -- THE PRESIDENT DECLARES A DISASTER.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS THAT THIS IS COMING TO FRUITION.

THERE ARE NO, MA'AM NUANCES THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT.

BEFORE WE GET INTO THE CURRENT PROJECT, I WANT TO TALK OF THE LAST PROJECT WE JUST DID, COMPLETED THERE.

COMPLETED IN JUNE -- JULY OF 2022.

ROUGHLY 7 735 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND.

COMBINATION OF THE STATE A AND MSTU FOR TWO MILLS AND.

COUPLE OF PICTURES. ON THE LEFT A PRE-NICOLE.

ON THE RIGHT IS POST-NICOLE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DAMAGE THAT THE STORM DID AFTER NICOLE. NAME IS HERE ON THE LEFT IS PRE.

POST IS ON THE RIGHT. SO NOW WE GET INTO ELIGIBILITY, AND THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO SLOW DOWN A BIT TO EXPLAIN IT TO THE BOARD, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC. IT IS NOT A KIND OF A ONE FOR ONE LOSE A GRAIN OF SAND AND FEMA COMES IN AND REPLACE AS GRAIN OF SAND. A LOT OF TECHNICAL DATA THAT HAS TO GO INTO THIS. A POST CONSTRUCTION PRESTORM KIND OF SLIDE. IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE HOUSE IS, THAT KIND OF SLOPE DOWN THE DUNE IN THE BURN AREA.

THAT IS THE DRY BEACH. WE HAD AN ACCRETION OF ABOUT 75,000 CUBIC YARDS. 810,000 OF CUBIC YARDS ON THE DRY BEACH. IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THE SLIDE, DEPTH OF CLOSURE. TO THE LEFT OF THAT WITHIN THE HOUSE IS WHAT FEMA REQUIRES IN THE PROJECT AREA.

ANYTHING TO THE RIGHT IS CONSIDERED LOST OR OUTSIDE THE PROJECT AREA. I WILL COME TO A PLAY IN JUST A SECOND WHEN I EXPLAIN THIS. AFTER THE STORM, WHAT WE WIND UP LOSING IF YOU SEE THE DOTTED LINE WHERE THE SAND USED TO BE, THE SOLID LINE IS WHERE THE SAND IS NOW.

SO WE LOST SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE DRY BEACH, BUT THE SAND MOVED INTO THE NEAR SHORE SYSTEM OR WHERE THE WATER WHERE THAT DOTTED BLUE LINE IS. WE HAD SOME SAND MOVE OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM TO THE RIGHT OF THAT CLOSURE LINE.

THIS IS HOW FEMA DETERMINES ELIGIBILITIES OR WHAT THEY WILL PAY FOR IN SAND. WE LOST APPROXIMATELY 610,000 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND ON THE DRY BEACH.

BUT WE GAINED 260,000 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND IN THAT WATER AREA. AND WE LOST A TOTAL OF $350,000 CUBIC YARDS BASED ON THE MAINTENANCE PLAN AND WHAT WE HAVE PLACED AS OUR TEMPLATE OF OUR AREA.

WHAT IS ELIGIBLE IS 350,000 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND THAT FEMA WILL COME IN SANDS ASSIST WITH. SO WHAT ARE ARE THE OPTION AS SOON AS I AM GOING TO -- IF I CAN PUT THIS ON THE OVERHEAD BECAUSE THAT WILL CHANGE. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, WE HAD FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAME ABOUT.

AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU THE OPTIONS FIRST. THE FIRST OPTION THAT WE HAVE IS TO REPLACE 350,000 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND THAT WE LOST IN THE DRY BE BEACH.

WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN AS A RESIDENT AND WENT OUT ON YOUR BEACH OF THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION AND WENT OUT AFTER 50,000 CUBIC YARD LOOKS INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT.

FEMA DOESN'T COVER ALL OF IT BUT THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT THEY WILL PAY FOR THE TUNE AND NOT THE GERM.

AND NOT FEES WERE FOR A DREDGE COMPANY TO COME IN.

10 DO 12 MONTHS TO DO THAT WITH 50,000 TRUCKS UP AND DOWN A1A TO DO THIS FUNDING CHANGES FROM THE PRESENTATION.

DEM, DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE STATE LEGISLATURES PUT A GRANT CALLED SB 4-A.

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BASE HAVE $, $350 MILLION TO PAY FOR THE NONFEDERAL SHARE OF FEMA PROJECTS. 12 TO 25% WILL BE COVERED BY DEM. FEMA PAY 75%.

DEM PAY 25%. AND WE WILL TALK IN A SECOND OF DEP MONEY. OPTION TWO IS WE RESTORE THE BEACH BACK TO THE FULL TEMPLATE, 610,000 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND WE LOST IN THE DRY BEACH. THE DREDGE PROJECT.

LOOKING TWO TO FOUR MONTHS AT THIS TIME, YOU DON'T KNOW IF ONE OR TWO. GO BASICALLY TWO MONTHS TO FOUR MONTHS. AT A DREDGE FOR COST, IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO BRING IN DREDGED STAND.

LOOKING AT $22 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT.

HOWEVER, HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND TWO.

FEMA ONLY PLAYS FOR THE 350,000 CUBIC YARDS THAT THEY DEEM WE HAVE LOST ROUGHLY AROUND 13 AND A HALF TO 13.3 MILLION.

FEMA WILL PAY 57%. DEM PAY 25%.

AND LEAVES $8.9 UNTIL UNFUNDED. I MENTIONED BEFORE AND IN THE PACKET, THE DEP, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FUNDING WHERE I CAME TO THE BOARD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, 9.5 MILLION FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ASK IF THEY WILL LET US HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

WE GOT WORD BACK THAT THE ANSWER IS YES.

SO WE NOW HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW TO SPEND THAT $9.5 MILLION.

WE CAN SPLIT IT WITHIN THESE PROJECTS OR MOVE IT INTO BASICALLY -- THREE PROJECT AREAS.

NORTH PONTE VEDRA. WE ARE TALKING OF THE RENOURISHMENT PLAN. THE FEMA PROJECTS THAT WILL PAY THE UNFUNDED PORTION. OR ANY OTHER FEMA RELATED PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE NOT BEING FULLY FUNDED BY EITHER DEM OR -- YEAH, DEM OR FEMA.

THE $9 MILLION TO TALK ABOUT. WITH THE CONCLUSION OF THE DEM'S 25%. WE DON'T KNEAD THAT DEP MONEY FOR, AGAIN, OPTION ONE AND THE ELIGIBLE PORTION OF OPTION TWO.

HOPE I KIND OF EXPLAINED THAT BECAUSE IT IS VERY DIFFICULT IF YOU FOLLOW THE MONEY SO TODAY I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO PICK OPTION ONE OR TWO. AGAIN, IF WE ARE LOOKIN AT THIS PROJECT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND TRYING TO PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE ALL THE FUNDING IN PLACE FOR OPTION TWO WHICH IS THE PREFERRED OPTION AND GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO LOOK FOR THAT FUNDING. MAY I GO BACK TO MY REGULAR PRESENTATION, PLEASE. SO WHAT I AM ASKING FOR TODAY IS FOR US TO BASICALLY LOOK INTO A TWO-PHASED PROJECT FOR THIS -- FOR THIS PROJECT. THE PHASE ONE WILL BE THE PLANNING, THE DESIGN, THE PERMITTING, ALL THE THINGS I WOULD NEED TO GET TO CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO GO OUT TO BID FOR DISCUSSION. ASKING FOR $750,000 TO DO THAT WORK. THAT MONEY IS FULLY REIMBURSABLE WE DO THE PROBABLY. IF WE DO NOT DO THE PROJECT, IT IS NOT REIMBURSE REIMBURSABLE. I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

WITH TIMING, WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO GO FORWARD. WE GO TOUTS FOYER A RFQ FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES AND ALL THE THINGS WE NEED THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS AND FINALIZE THE PERMITTING DESIGN.

HAVE TO PERMIT OFFSHORE SAND SOURCES AND MOD FIR OCCASIONS PERMITS. 4 TO 6 MONTHS, SOMEWHERE AROUND THE TIME FRAME. IT WAS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY, WHAT OPTION DO YOU WANT US TO DO? HERE IS THE FINAL FUNDING.

WHAT THE PROJECT COULD LOOK LIKE.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR A DECISION POINT.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT ON THAT POINT.

AFTER THAT, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION BID PROCESS AND HAVE A FINAL NUMBER TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. BASED ON THE OPTIONS THAT WE CHOOSE -- SO THE BOARD CHOOSES, WILL DICTATE HOW LONG THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD IS. THAT IS THE PRESENTATION.

I WILL PUT -- THE MOTION CHANGED FROM THE PACKET ONLY BECAUSE WE TOOK OUT THE D.E.P. LANGUAGE. AND THAT -- IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THE MOTION FOR DEM AND THE FEMA MONEY. WITH THAT, I'M HERE FOR ANY QUES QUESTIONS.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU, DR. GIAMACCO.

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>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: IF WE GET THE MONEY, NO COST TO THE

COUNTY? >> CORRECT.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: DOES THAT 8.9 MILLION HAVE TO BE BEFORE

JULY 2024. >> NO.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I AM LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE AND IT

HAS TO GO BY THAT. >> DEP IS VERY FLEXIBLE ON THEIR TIMING AND WE TALKED TO THEM TO GET THE FINAL FOR THE MONEY.

THEY DON'T WANT IF BACK IF THE CURRENT CONTRACT SAYS TO 24, I HAVE NO DOUBT WE WILL NEED TO ACCOMPLISH TO MISSION.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: GOOD JOB. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: WE WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7. YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

GUY RASH, 2803 SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND A BOARD MEMBER OF THE PONTE VEDRA VILANO BEACH ASSOCIATION.

MY PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO EXPRESS OUR ASSOCIATION AND OUR PROPERTY OWNERS VERY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE JOE'S PROJECT THAT HE OUTLINED FOR YOU TODAY. OPTION ONE OAR TWO WE WILL TAKE, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY -- PRETTY CLEAR WITH WHAT YOU ASKED, OPTION TWO IS THE WAY TO GO IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

NOT JUST WE ARE SELFISH AND WANT MORE SAND BUT IT KEEPS 50,000 TRUCKS OFF OF A1A TEARING UP THE ROAD AND TRAFFIC.

WHAT I DID WANT TO MENTION TO YOU TODAY, HOW MUCH COMMITMENT OUR COMMUNITY AND SOUTH PONTE VEDRA IN THE AREA THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE PROJECT WILL COVER. HOW MUCH COMMITMENT WE HAVE THERE. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WE A FEW YEARS AGO WERE SURVEYED AND AGREED TO BE TAXED FOR TEN YEARS TO GET THIS FIRST RENOURISHMENT DONE THAT WE DID IN '22.

I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY IN OUR AREA HAVE EVER AGREED TO THE KIND OF MONEY THAT WE APPROVED. I AM TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU HAVE A HOME ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU ARE SPENDING $ ,000 TO $5,000 PER HOMEOWNER FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS FOR THE FIRST RENOURISHMENT.

AND JOE WILL CONFIRM TO YOU IF WE DID NOT DO THAT FIRST RENOURISHMENT, WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING THIS CATEGORY G FEMA BECAUSE IT REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A MANAGED NOURISHED BEACH.

WE HAVE A MANAGED NOURISH BEACH TO ALLOW US TO SET UP THAT FUNDING RECOGNITION. A DOUBLE WIN HERE.

ONE IS, WE WILL LOOK LIKE WE WILL GET A LOT OF SAND AS A RESULT OF OUR DECISION TO TAX OURSELVES.

BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS OUR LITTLE ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 17 YEARS NOW FIGHTING FOR THE BEACH, ALLOWS US TO GO BACK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, IF YOU WILL, AND SAY WE HAVE A WIN.

YOU MAY BE PAYING FOR THIS, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR THIS, WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING THIS NEW SAND.

AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE A MANAGED BEACH TODAY.

WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A DOUBLE WIN ON OUR HANDS WITH THAT ONE.

JUST WANT TO AGAIN THANK JOE AND HIS STAFF, DAVIS DOUGLAS AND A LOT OF FOLKS WE DON'T KNOW FOR THE EFFORT PETITION PUT IN TO GET US HERE. THIS IS HUGE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

IT TIES THE KNOT KNOT. TIES ALL OF SOUTH PONTE VEDRA AND VILANO TOGETHER THAT WE HAVE MANAGED BEACH AREAS IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY IS A HUGE, HUGE WIN AND I WILL ASK YOU ALL TO VOTE YES ON THIS TODAY. WE WILL CROSS OUR FINGERS FOR OPTION TWO DOWN THE ROAD, BUT LET'S ALL SAY YES AND LET JOE GET ON WITH THIS AND GET THIS DONE.

THE QUICKER HE GETS APPROVAL TO DO THE PLANNING AND DESIGN PHASE, THE QUICKER WE GET OUT OF THE HURRICANE SEASON ISSUES.

WE COULD LOSE -- INSTEAD OF JUST ONE MORE HURRICANE SEASON.

TWO OR THREE MORE HURRICANE SEASON.

CRITICALLY ERODED. WE HAD DAMAGE JUST THIS WEEK

FROM THAT TOO AS WELL. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE FROM PUBLIC COMMENT ON --

>> RELOST SOME FOLKS AFTER LUNCH.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 7. IF NOT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BACK TO THE BOARD, AND COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THROUGH THE CHAIR, THE 750 IS

REIMBURSABLE. >> CORRECT.

IT IS REIMBURSABLE. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I AM

PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: APPRECIATE FOR MR. GIAMMANCO TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER THAT WAS EASY TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WANT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023-

>> 469. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: APPROVING

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THE PLANNING IT HE SIGN, PERMITTING, PROJECT DESIGN AND DELIVERY AND EXECUTION AND NOW THE SCREEN HAS GONE TO ANOTHER

SLIDE. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WILL START OVER.

IT WILL BE QUICK. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 23

-- >> 469.

>> APPROVING THE PLANNING DESIGN PERMITTING PROJECT PREPARATION AND DELIVERY AND EXCUSE COSTS OF CATEGORY G IN RESPONSE TO HURRICANES ION AND NICOLE AND FEMA GRANT OF 552,000.

AND STATE OF FLORIDA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GRANT OF UP TO

[8. Fiscal Year 2023: End of Year Budget Compliance.]

187,500 WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE. THAT PASS 5-0.

THANK YOU, DR. G. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.

MR. DUNN, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

JESSE DUNN OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET.

TO DISCUSS END OF YEAR BUDGET COMPLIANCE.

IN MY 20 YEARS THE FIRST TIME THIS IS A AGENDA ITEM.

IT IS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. A YEAR-END ACCOUNTING, BUT THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, THERE ARE SOME LARGER BUDGETARY ITEMS, IF YOU WILL. AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT IT BEST THAT WE MAKE THIS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM AND I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS INFORMATION.

IT MAY ALSO COMPLETE FOR UP WITH OF THE DRIEST PRESENTATIONS YOU WILL EVER HEAR HERE. BUT I WILL KIND OF MOVE IT ALONG AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. EACH YEAR, THE BUDGET -- THE BUDGET -- YOUR BUDGET OFFICER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING YOUR BUDGETS STAY WITHIN BUDGET. AND TO ADDRESS ANY NEGATIVE BALANCES. EACH YEAR ON BEHHE CONSENT AGENDA ANY RESERVE TRANSFERS TO ADDRESS NEGATIVE DEPARTMENTAL BALANCES. WE GAVE PROJECT CLEANUP OR RECONCILIATION FOR GRANTS. AND I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE SPECIFICALLY AND RECOGNITION AND APPROPRIATION OF REVENUE EXPENDITURE ACTIVITIES PRIMARILY THE CULTURAL EVENTS, THE AMPHITHEATRE AND THE SEC, INC. AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

ALL FISCAL YEAR 2023 ITEMS. THIS IS NOT 2024.

SOME OF THESE REQUIRE -- SOME HAVE BUDGETARY IMPACTS BUT DO NOT COME OUT OF ANY FISCAL YEAR 2024 RESERVES.

I HAVE UP HERE 99.6, WHICH IS PROBABLY A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE OF THESE TRANSACTIONS WERE ALREADY INCLUDED.

WE ALREADY INCLUDED THESE IN OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION ALL SUMMER.

JUST AT SOME POINT, QUESTION KNOW WE HAVE TO BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD AND ALWAYS THIS ITEM, THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER. NONE OF THESE REFLECT ANY SORT OF LAST-MINUTE BUDGETARY IMPACTS THESE ARE ADDRESSED AND RECOGNIZED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AGAIN, KIND OF GOING BACK THREE CATEGORIES.

GOING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTAL RESERVES, THESE -- THESE ITEMS HERE REPRESENT NEGATIVE BALANCES FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

THE ONES THAT -- IF YOU CAN SEE UP IN THE SCREEN UP IN RED REPRESENT THOSE ITEMS THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE.

SO I WILL JUMP DOWN TO THE COUPLE.

A MEDICAID PARTICIPATION. EACH COUNTY PARTICIPATES IN ITS MEDICAID PARTICIPATION TO THE STATE.

WE WERE OFF ABOUT $20,000 THAT WE HAVEN'T PROJECTED.

ABOUT A .00289 PERCENTAGE OF EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVEN'T

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ACCOUNTED FOR THAT WE WILL ADDRESS AS PART OF THIS MOTION.

WE WILL GO THROUGH THE ONES NOT IN RED NOW.

THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE SAW THROUGHOUT -- SOME OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SOME OF THEM OCCUR WITH THE END OF YEAR PROCESS. BEGINNING AT THE TOP.

INMATE HEALTH CARE COST IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND WHILE WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE SHERIFF OFFICE, WE HAVE -- WE ARE MINIMIZED AT WHAT CONTROL WE HAVE ON HEALTH CARE COST RELATED TO INMATES THIS YEAR A $398,000 COVERAGE ON THAT. I HAD ACTUALLY PROJECTED CLOSER TO 500,000 ON THIS. SO WE CAME IN LOWER ON THAT.

THE BOARD APPROVED ANNUAL WRITE-OFFS FOR ANNUAL EMS ACCOUNTS AS PART OF THE ANNUAL WRITE-OFFS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER. AND THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS REFLECTED HEREIN ON THE 363,000. TWO AREAS WHERE WE HAVE -- I WOULD SAY OPERATING CHANGES, THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD ADDITIONAL OUTSIDE COUNCIL SERVICES TO THE TUNE OF $107,000. AND THAT SOMEONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ADDRESSED FOR THE FY '24 BUDGET THAT IS IN A CORRECTED FORM. EVERYTHING ELSE REALLY REMAINED FLAT IN THAT BUDGET GOING INTO 24.

BUT THERE WAS A -- THERE WAS A, AGAIN, A NEGATIVE BALANCE THERE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT WITH THE SEPARATION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I WILL SAY TRANSITION, ANY VACATION PAYOUT. $1 04,000 THE PROPERTY APPRAISER PERFORMANCE BUDGET. NOT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ACTIVITIES, IT WAS ACTUALLY A PROJECTION, A MISSED PROJECTION OF WHAT WE OWED THEM AS PART OF THE ANNUAL PROCESS WAS OUT 15,000 AND WE HAD A PERSONNEL COST OVERAGE ON OUR SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION AT ABOUT THE 1100.

ALL OF THESE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND WERE ALL PROJECTED EITHER A THIS LEVEL OR ABOVE SO NO CASH CANNOUT ON ANY OF THESE.

FINALLY LAST ONE HERE. WE HAVE A FUND CALL THE DORY SWASBERG DRIVER'S EDUCATION FUND WHERE THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES CAME IN $1200 HIGHER FOR THOSE SERVICES.

THOSE SERVICES ARE ACTUALLY -- I BELIEVE IT IS THE TAX COLLECTOR -- THE TAX COLLECTOR WHO PROVIDES ENHANCED DRIVER'S EDUCATION PROGRAMS TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS PROJECT CLEANUP RECONCILIATION. FOR THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTAND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I KIND OF GO BACK TO HURRICANE MATTHEW AND IRMA WHEN WE GOT INTO THE FEMA PROCESS AND DR. GIAMMANCO WAS INVOLVED AND ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH FEMA.

WE GOT INTO COVID AND STARTED RECEIVING ADDITIONAL FU FUNDS, CARES ARPA, PRESIDENT EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

CD DBG-R. AND MORE GRANT PROGRAMS AND COMMISSION PROVIDED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE BUDGET OFFICE TO CENTRALIZE MUCH OF THAT GRANT RECONCILIATION MAKING SURE AND CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT SO A LOT OF THIS -- THE LARGER ITEMS FIRST TWO ARE RELATED TO US AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO THESE GRANTS AND SORT WITH THEM AND WHERE THE APPROPRIATIONS AND WHERE THE RIGHT EXPENDITURE IS AND MAKING SURE THE REVENUE IS THERE.

THESE AREN'T ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE ACTIVITIES WHATSOEVER, THESE ARE TRANSITION OF REVENUES TO MATCH THEM UP WITH THE EXPENDITURES AND GETTING THE ACCOUNTING RIGHT FEMA GRANT REIMBURSEMENT RELATED TO SHERIFF ACTIVITY AND HURRICANE MATTHEW THAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING IN TOWARD THE SHERIFF'S INTERNAL LOAN APPROVED SOME TIME AGO FOR OUR TRAINING FACILITY. THESE WERE ALL IDENTIFIED THIS PAST YEAR WORKING WITH THEIR OFFICE AND MY GRANT PEOPLE AND ALL THIS IS DOING IS TAKING THESE DOLLARS AND TRANSITIONING THEM AGAINST THAT LOAN. AND PAYING OFF THE REMAINDER OF WHAT WAS AN INTERNAL LOAN. AGAIN THE BCC HAD APPROVED I AM GOING TO SAY FOUR YEARS AGO FROM THAT TRAINING FACILITY.

THAT LOAN, THAT ETERNAL LOAN PAYS OFF WITH THIS REMAINING FEMA GRANT REIMBURSEMENT. WE HAVE 900,000 AND WITH

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ASSASSINATE MATTHEW AND IRMA WORKING WITH DR. GIAMMANCO IN THE FUND THAT MUD IS BE IN THE FEMA FUND.

BY APPROVING, THAT ALLOWS ME TO TRANSITION THOSE DOLLARS OVER AT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH REQUEST OUR GRANT PEOPLE, THE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH RENOURISHMENT FUND. GOING BACK TO HURRICANE MATTHEW, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE RENOURISHMENT PROGRAMS OUT THERE.

DR. GIAMMANCO SPOKE OF ONE AND GOOD NEWS ON THAT.

WHEN THE PROGRAMS CAME OUT AFTER MATTHEW, ONE FUND, THE ST.

AUGUSTINE BEACH RENOURISHMENT. HAD NEGOTIATIONS.

WE SAID LET'S PUT IT IN INTO THE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH RENOURISHMENT FUND. HOW COMPLICATED THIS HAS BEEN.

191,000 THAT WE WILL MOVE INTO THE PONTE VEDRA BEACH FUND.

THE LAST TWO ARE REMAINING DOLLARS THAT WE ARE GOING TO ASSOCIATE -- TRANSFER BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE RECONSTRUCTION AND LO AND BEHOLD, $55,744 REMAINING IN THAT FUND AND WE ASKED TO TRANSFER THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE OUR PROJECT IS COMPLETE IN THE GENERAL FUND $19,406 REMAINING IN A DEBT SERVICES FUND THAT IS NOW MATURED AND WE ASKED THAT THOSE DOLLARS BE TRANSFERRED BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. NOSE ARE THE PROJECTS CLEANUP AND HAPPY TO GET BACK TO THAT AND NECESSITATES SOME EXPLANATION BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE LAST-MINUTE BUDGETARY RESERVE TRANSFERS AND LAST-MINUTE EXPENDITURES.

LASTLY, THE FINAL AREA IS RECOGNITION OF FUNDS AND START WITH THE BOTTOM ONE FIRST. $48,803 IN A FUND NECESSITATED TO PAY THE DEBT IN '23. WE MISSED BUDGETING FOR THAT IN '23, WHAT THIS IS DOING IS RECOGNIZING AND APPROPRIATING T THAT.

I CANNOT EXPENSE THE DEBT SERVICE AND THIS IS PLANNED TO BE A YEAR END. THE DEBT IS DUE TO THE YEAR END.

THE ITEM THAT ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT IT WAS BEST WHY TO BE A REGULAR ITEM. LAST ONE FOR $8,6776,000.

WITH THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL ON SEPTEMBER 18 OF THE TRANSITION, AGAIN, OF THE DIVISION INTO THE SJCCE INCORPORATED THIS APPROACH YATES ALL REMAINING DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE EVENTS AND ALLOWS ME WORKING WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO TRANSITION THAT PROGRAM OVER THE LAST TRANSITION. AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, 8.87 MILLION THAT REFLECTS EVENT ACTIVITY FROM FOOD, T-SHIRTS AND TICKET REVENUES AS WELL AS UNRESTRICTED DOLLARS THEY RECEIVED THROUGH A SHUTTERED VENUE GRANT THAT THIS COMMISSION HAD APPROVED IN RECENT YEARS TOWARD THE PONTE VEDRA CONCERT HALLS. BEEN A DISCUSSION.

WAS KIND OF HELD UNTIL THE BOARD APPROVED THIS ON THE 19TH.

AND WITH THAT, WE PREPARED THIS AGENDA ITEM TO RECOGNIZE THOSE REVENUES TO TRANSFER THEM OUT. WITH THAT -- I KNOW THERE IS A LOT THERE AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPROPRIATIONS.

THE ITEM TODAY IS TO -- IS TO APPROVE THAT ATTACHED SCHEDULE.

THE ATTACHED SCHEDULE IS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM.

AND I JUST KIND OF RE-- LITERALLY REITERATED IT ALL FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON. WITH THAT, I AM CERTAINLY OPEN

TO ANY QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MR. DUNN. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: NOT A QUESTION, BUT A THEME FOR TRANS TRANSPARENCY.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ITEM ON THAT NORMALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSENT EXPLAINING IT FOR OUR BENEFIT AND THE MEMBER OF THE

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PUBLIC. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT, WE WILL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. DUNN. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NOW NEAR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.

>> I AGREE WITH MR. DUNN ON THIS OCCASION.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA FOR ACT OF TRANSPARENCY.

IN THAT VAIN, COULD WE AGREE THAT WHEN WE DO THE WORKSHOP NEXT YEAR IN MAY ON THE BUDGET, THAT IT BE TELEVISED ROAR HELD IN THIS ROOM, AND THE PUBLIC BE ENCOURAGED TO SPEAK.

IN THE PAST WE HAD MEETINGS AT THE AG CENTER.

NOT TELEVISED. NOT ACT SESABLE.

NOT FRIENDLY. NOT WELCOMING AT ALL.

PLEASE CHECK YOUR MINUTES BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE NOT TELLING PEOPLE WHO READ THE MINUTES WHO SAID WHAT.

THEY LIST WHO SMOKE, BUT THEY DON'T SAY WHAT WE SAY WHOEVER DOES THE MINUTES ARE DELETING INTERESTING ITEMS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. LIFE AND DEATH, CORRUPTION, WASTE, FRAUD AND ABUSE. CAN QUESTION GET BACK TO REGULAR ORDER -- AS JOHN MCCAIN WILL SAY -- REGULAR ORDER ON AND STOP DELETING THEM AND EDIT WHAT WE SAY.

UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE 129 AS JESSE EXPLAINED TO YOU ALL SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS THIS BOARD CAN PASS A RESOLUTION AND ASK EACH OF THE FIVE COUNTY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS TO SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSED BUDGETS BY MAY 1 OF EACH YEAR AND THAT WAY WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE CAN TALK OF THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET. SKILL THAT FOR YEARS.

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? TRANSPARENCY WITH THE HER.

>> RIFF AND CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

WE NEED IT AND NEED IT BADLY. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YO

YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DORIS TAYLOR.

208 LOBELIA ROAD, ST. AUGUSTINE. THANK YOU FOR THIS.

EVERYTHING WE DO TOWARD TRANSPARENCY IS A GOOD MOVE AND I AM GLAD HE JUST MENTIONED THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I KNOW THAT THE SHERIFFS BUDGET AND THE S.O.E.'S BUDGET WERE ACTUALLY LINE ITEMS ON THE COUNTY BUDGET FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

THREE OR FOUR. BUT NOT THIS YEAR.

IT HAS BEEN REMOVED. PLEASE PUT IT PACK.

THAT IS NOT RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU. ? BJ KALADY. I AM SO GLAD I COULD COME BACK AFTER LUNCH. BECAUSE I CAN'T BE AT TWO PLACES AT THE SAME TIME. PRIORITY, PRIORITY.

I APPRECIATE MR. DUNN AND WHAT HIS DEPARTMENT DOES.

AND I APPRECIATE PUTTING THIS ON THE REAL AGENDA AND A FOLLOW-UP COMMENT AND I WAS CONCERNED TOO AND I DON'T JUST GO TO THE BOARD, I GO TO THE STAFF TO TRY TO GET AN ANSWER ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. IT HAS BEEN CHANGED.

AND THERE IS A REASON. YOU CAN JUST TALK TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FIVE HAVE, BUT I DID. THIS HAS ALSO FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS BEEN GOING CONTINUE TO WITH THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC HAVE TO SAY, YOU WILL HAVE TO STREAM IT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON. THERE IS A REASON AND YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT FOR SURE SO YOU CAN MAYBE DIRECT PEOPLE TOING THE ANSWER FOR WHY OUR COMMENTS AREN'T UP THERE.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THAT TAKES US BACK TO THE BOARD,

MR. DUNN. >> A MOTION ON THE SCREEN THERE, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

[9. First Reading of Proposed Amendment to St. Johns County Ordinance No. 2018-42 regulating the operation of Golf Carts, Low Speed Vehicles, and Mini Trucks within St. Johns County.]

COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I WILL APPROVE FOR POSITIVE FISCAL BALLOTS PER THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY

ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST:

SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: A MOTION AND A SECOND. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

THANK YOU, MR. DUNN. >> THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. WE ARE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM

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NUMBER 9. MISS WEST.

>> KEALEY WEST, OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY.

ITEM NUMBER 9, FIRST READING OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ST.

JOHNS COUNTY ORDINANCE 2018-42 GOLF CART.

IT IS NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH CHANGES IN STATE LAW.

CURRENTLY OUR ORDINANCE REGULATES THE OPERATION OF GOLF CARTS, MINIVEHICLES WITH SECTION 3 16-212, FLORIDA STATUTES.

THE RELEVANT PART OF OUR ORDINANCE ANY PERSON 14 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER MAY OPERATE A GOLF CART ON DESIGNATED COUNTY ROADS FOR MULTIYOUTH PATHS WITH NO OTHER INFORMATION AND REQUIREMENTS. THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, A CHANGE IN STATE LAW, WHICH REQUIRES MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS AND AROUND AGE LIMIT WITH THE OPERATION OF GOLF COURTS. ALIGN WITH STATE CHANGES, THE COUNTY MUST AMEND ITS ORDINANCE. THE RELEVANT CHANGES IS IS THAT A GOLF CART MAY NOT BE OPERATED UPON A DESIGNATED COUNTY ROAD OR MULTIUSE PATH OF ANY PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 18 UNLESS THEY POSSESS A VALID LEARNER HE IS OR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

ANYONE WHO IS 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER MUST HAVE A VALID GOVERNMENT ISSUED T.I.D. IN THEIR POSSESSION.

THOSE ARE THE CHANGES AND VERY MINOR AND ORDINANCE ARE KENT WITH STATE LAW AND THAT IS THE CHANGE.

THIS THERE IS NO ACTION. THIS IS A FIRST READING.

WE WILL COME BACK WITH YOU WITH PUBLIC HEARING AND HEARING ON

THIS STATUTE. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD? YES, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

DO THEY HAVE TO LICENSE THE GOLF CARTS EVER? I KNOW SOMETIMES IN ARIZONA, WE HAD TO PUT LICENSES ON OUR GOLF CARTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO THAT

HERE. >> THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED. NOT ALL COUNTY ROADS, NOT ALL PUBLIC ROADS. THIS COUNTY, A DESIGNATED COUNTY ROAD OR DESIGNATED MULTIUSE PATH.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. MIGUT, DO WE HAVE TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD FIRST

[10. First Reading of Proposed Amendment to St. Johns County Ordinance 20028-29 regarding St. Johns County Affordable Housing Advisory Committee.]

READING. >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: IT IS PREFERRED BECAUSE IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

BECAUSE NO VOTES ARE REQUIRED, IT IS CUSTOM.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.

ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THANK YOU,

MISS WEST. >> I HAVE THE NEXT ITEM.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: NUMBER 10.

>> ITEM NUMBER 10 IS IT ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO COUNTY ORDINANCE, FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

YOU GAVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR ORDINANCE OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, 2008-29. A STATUTORILY CREATED COMMITTEE AND WE COMPLY WITH SECTIONS OF FLORIDA STATUTE 42-0967 AND HIRED UNDER THE SHIP PROGRAM. TO RECEIVE FUNDS UNDER S.H.I.P.

WE NEED TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

11-MEMBER COMMITTEE APPOINT BY THE BOCC WITH EACH OF THE CATEGORIES IDENTIFIED BY STATUTE AND SELECTED BOC MEMBER SERVES AS LIAISON. CHANGES IN STATE LAW THAT AMENDED THAT SECTION AND CHANGES IN THE AHAC IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. THE COUNTY MUST AMEND THE ORDINANCE. THE CHANGES WERE THAT THE -- THAT THE MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION IS ACTUALLY A MEMBER NOW. SO NOT ONLY ALY IZON AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS BUT A VOTING MEMBER AND ONE OF THE 11.

WITH REGARD TO THE RHETT MAINING 10, THEY HAVE TO SERVE FROM AT LEAST SIX OF THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES.

SO IT USED TO BE WE HAD TO IDENTIFY EACH OF THE 11.

ONLY REPRESENTATION FOR EACH SIX AND GIVES US MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN SEATING THAT COMMITTEE. THAT IS THE CHANGE.

AGAIN THIS IS A FIRST READING LAND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A SECOND READING ON PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: YES,

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WENT BACK TO WATCH SEPTEMBER 19, AND I DIDN'T SEE WHERE WE ASKED TO DO THIS EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE ATTORNEY ASKED.

I AM NOT SURE, BUT I KNOW COMMISSIONER ALAIMO ASKED FOR A MOTION FOR IF THE -- FOR THE 20% PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR

CERTAIN BUILD-OUTS. >> I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

UNDER THE OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REQUEST. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: OKAY.

OTHER QUESTION I HAD, I LOOKED AT ALL THE CATEGORIES AND SEVEN OUT OF THE FOUR ARE ALL HOME BUILDERS OR SOMEONE REPRESENTING

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BUILDING OUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND ONLY FOUR KIND OF CITIZEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. I AM WONDER WHY WE DON'T HAVE -- I KNOW THIS IS STATUTORY, BUT WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AND FROM FIRE AND FROM POLICE, BECAUSE THIS EFFECTS THE IMPACT OF THE AREA. I WAS JUST --

>> THOSE 11 CATEGORIES ARE WHAT IS MANDATED BY STATUTE THAT HAVE TO BE FILLED IN ORDER FOR US TO RECEIVE S.H.I.P. FUNDING.

STATUTE. >> CAN WE TAKE OFF YOU A COUPLE AND ADD A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND A FIRE?

>> NOT TO THE COMPLY WITH STATUTE.

SIX OF THEM HAVE TO BE REPRESENTED.

WE CAN HAVE GENERAL -- >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I THINK A 7TH ONE YOU CAN GET RID OF AND ADD SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

A SCHOOL? >> WE CAN'T CHANGE THE CATEGORIES BECAUSE THEY ARE MANDATED BY STATUTE.

HOWEVER, IF THERE IS SOMEBODY BE WHO IS AN ADVOCATE THAT MEETS BOTH OF THOSE WHO ARE AN ADVOCATE FOR LOW INCOME PERSONS OR SERVES ON THE BOARD OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY CAN CERTAINLY APPLY AND BE APPOINTED IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD.

>> WELL, THESE ARE ONLY SIX. THERE ARE SEVEN ON HERE.

AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT. MAYBE YOU CAN JUST SEE WHAT THAT SEVENTH ONE IS. AND MAYBE THAT CAN BE SOMETHING ELSE OR WE CAN'T DO THAT EITHER BECAUSE IT IS UNDER SOME

STATUTE. >> CORRECT.

THE CATEGORIES ARE SET FOR US. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: OKAY.

I COUNTED SEVEN AND THERE ARE ONLY SIX.

>> THERE IS SEVEN. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NEVER MIND. THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

>> HELLO, AGAIN, JOE MCINERNEY BLACKBERRY LANE.

I ATTENDED THE ADHAC MEETING AND YOU WILL AN IN YOU ANNUAL REPORT AT THE NEXT MEETING OR SOON. YOU KNOW IT IS -- IT IS EXCITING TO HEAR ABOUT ALL OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT SUDDENLY SEEM TO BE COMING FORWARD WHAT A GREAT THING IT IS. WE TALKED OF WANTING THEM, NEEDING THEM. SUDDENLY IT APPEARS AS IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. A BIG PROJECT ALONG WATSON ROAD AND ANOTHER PROJECT ON MILLS PLACE AND WHAT I REMINDED THE AHAC BOARD ABOUT IS THIS. THERE WERE THREE PROJECTS THAT WERE DENIED LAST YEAR COMING FORWARD WITH MARKET RATE HOUSING AND THEY CAME BACK ASKING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

ON THE POSITIVE SIDE WHAT THAT WAS TELLING ME SEEMINGLY, THEY CAN DO THIS. THESE BUILDERS CAN DO THIS.

IF IT IS THE RIGHT PLACE, THE RIGHT TIME, AND UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK WE ALL SHOULD BE VERY, VERY ENCOURAGED ABOUT THAT. I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH.

WHILE WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, WE STILL HAVE TO CONSIDER INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPATIBILITY.

THERE WERE PROJECTS THAT CAME BACK WITH WORK FORCE HOUSING THAT WERE DENIED. PUERTO DE SOL AT U.S. 1 AND 206.

WE CAN'T -- I MEAN I WANT THIS. I WANT TO BE UP HERE BUILDING UP, NOT TEARING DOWN. I HONESTLY DO.

I WANT TO BE A VOICE FOR POSITIVITY.

BUT NOT ON THE BACKING OF -- OF OTHER RESIDENTS AND OTHERS WHO ARE COUNTING ON YOU, COUNTING ON ALL OF US WHO SPEAK TO SUPPORT THEM FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPATIBILITY.

THERE IS A PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON OLD LEWIS SPEEDWAY THAT LAST YEAR WAS DENIED WITH 92 UNITS. COMING PACK THIS YEAR WITH 145 COMING BACK AT A HOUSING DISTRICT.

IF I HAVE MY NUMBERS RIGHT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF INCENTIVES IN THERE INCLUDING WORK FORCE HOUSING ZONING DISTRICT. WE ARE ONLY 40% OF THOSE HOUSES NEEDED TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING. WHAT IS COMING BACK US TO SEEMINGLY ARE THE SAME 92 UNITS DENIED BUT WITH AN ADDITIONAL 45 WORK FORCE. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE DETAILS.

WE WILL ALL LOOK AT THE DETAILS WHEN THEY THAT COMES IN.

THE SORT OF THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

AND MAYBE IT IS TIME FOR A PU PUBLIC PUBLIC-PRIVATE COOPERATION.

SOMETHING THAT PROPOSING LAST YEAR THAT IS NOT PROPOSING THIS YEAR. THE COUNTY NEEDS TO STEP UP WITH THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT. AND I AM JUST SAYING A SQUAT ANALYSIS. SWEETNESS OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS HAVE A PREAPPLICATION WHERE THE COUNTY CAN REALLY MAKE THEIR DETERMINATION. WHAT CAN WE TO DO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL. WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE NOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10?

>> HEY, DORIS TAYLOR. SAME PLACE.

I HAD AN INTERESTING THING -- INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY.

A FRIEND GAVE IT TO ME HAD A LOT MORE MONEY THAN I DO.

BUT THERE ARE GROUPS OF INVESTMENT CAPELISTS GETTING TOGETHER HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

TARGETING ST. JOHNS COUNTY ALONG WITH SOME PLACES IN ARIZONA AND TEXAS WITH SIMILAR ISSUES, LOOKING FOR FUNDS FOR DEVELOPERS. THE DEVELOPERS WANT TO BUILD WORKFORCE HOUSING. AND THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUILDING APARTMENTS.

BUILDING HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. THEY LOVE IT.

THE BANKING INDUSTRY IS IN TROUBLE.

COMMERCIAL LOANS ARE GETTING HARDER TO GET.

SO THE BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS ARE SOLVING THE PROBLEM WITH PRIVATE EQUITY. THIS TELLS ME.

THIS ONE GROUP THAT I HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS INVOLVED WITH NOW IS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER VERY QUICKLY.

THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED VERY HIGH CONCERNS.

DON'T TELL ME THEY SNEED SPECIAL DISPOSITIONS.

THEY DON'T NEED SPECIAL FAVORS. THEY DON'T NEED ANYTHING THAT WILL COST US TAXPAYER MONEY. THEY WANT THIS.

THEY ARE GETTING ALL THE ADVANTAGES BECAUSE THEY PAY OFF THE POLITICIANS. QUESTION ALL KNOW THAT.

YOU MAY NOT BE TAKING THE PAYOFFS, WE KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE COULD BELIEVE THEY NEED SPECIAL FAVORS AND ALL WRITTEN INTO THE WALL BECAUSE WE HAVE DEVELOPER SENATORS AND WHAT NOT BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THESE DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS LOVE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING BECAUSE IT PAYS OFF TO THEM.

DON'T RAISE MY TAXES BECAUSE OF IT.

YOU ARE JAMMING THE ROADS AND DESTROYING THE SCHOOLS.

THIS IS NOT COOL -- AND -- WELL, I WILL SAVE IT FOR ANOTHER TIME.

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING. LET'S SEE.

SAN MARCOS HEIGHTS -- >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NAME AND

ADDRESS. >> JACKIE LEBLANC, BCC VEIL TERRACE. SAN MARCOS HEIGHTS, ONE TO THREE BEDROOMS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. RIBBON CUTTING.

GREAT CELEBRATION. AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DECEMBER 2022. NOVEMBER, 2023, NEWS FOR JAX, COUNTY TENANTS MOVING OUT ROACHES, MOLD, DOG FECES, DUMPSTERS OVERFLOWING. YAHOO.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHAT ARE WE DOING WRONG.

AND NOW BUILD A WHOLE BUNCH MORE? LET'S THINK ABOUT IT. RE

[11. Proposed Settlement of Southeast Development Partners, LLC v. St. Johns County State Court Litigation.]

REALLY. >> THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE ON PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10? SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: IF THERE IS NOT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD -- I GUESS NOT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS WEST.

THAT PRINCIPLES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, MR. MIGUT.

>>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS.

I AM FILLING IN FOR MR. BULTHUIS FOR THIS ITEM.

THE SETTLEMENT OF SOUTHEAST DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS VERSUS ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. STATE COURT LITIGATION.

I MET WITH MR. -- MR. BULTHUIS AND I MET WITH EACH OF YOU.

BACKGROUND IN APRIL 2023, SOUTHEAST DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS FILED A BY OF CERTAIN PUBLIC RECORD REQUESTS ITS ATTORNEY HAD

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MADE TO THE COUNTY RELATED -- EXCUSE ME, I AM SORRY -- RELATED TO THE CONCURRENCY AGREEMENT TO THE GRAND APPLICANT OAKS.

THE COUNTY DEFEPDZ ITS CASE AND CONTINUES TO DEFEND ITSELF AND RESPONSES TO THE REQUEST ARE CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA LAW.

UNDER FLORIDA LAW, PUBLIC RECORD LAWSUITS ARE GIVEN AN EXPEDITED TIME LINE. THIS CASE WAS SET FOR ACCELERATED HEARING IN DECEMBER OF 2023, 1RU89 OF SUCH, ON OCTOBER 30, 2023, THE PARTIES WERE ORDERED TO MEDIATION AND WE PARTICIPATED IN COURT ORDERED MEDIATION AND REACHED A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO BOARD APPROVAL.

TO AVOID FURTHER PUBLIC EXPENSE, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MEDIATED AGREEMENT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA MATERIALS. OF NOTE, THIS IS SEPARATE AND DOES NOT RESOLVE OUR PENDING AGAINST SOUTHEAST CONCUR REN SEE IT FOR THE GRAND OAKS PUD. THERE IS A MOTION ON THE DISPLAY FOR YOU, AND I WILL GLADLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MR. MIGUT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, YOU BELIEVED WE DID COMPLY -- THE

COUNTY DID COMPLY? >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: YES,

THEIR SOURCE POSITION. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: WHY ARE WE REACH A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WHEN THE DEVELOP REMEMBERS CONTINUOUSLY SUING US ON MULTIPLE FRONTS?

>>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: VERY VALID QUESTION.

UNDER THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW, THERE IS AN ATTORNEYS FEES CLAUSE WHERE WE WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR THEIR ATTORNEY FEE IT IS WE DID NOT PREVAIL AT TRIAL. SO WE RUN THAT RISK.

ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE OUR OFFICE HANDLED ITS PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, OUR ATTORNEYS ARE WITNESSES IN THIS CASE.

WHICH COULD NOT ALSO BE THE ATTORNEYS AROUND THE WITNESSES.

THERE IS A CONFLICT THERE. WHICH TO OBTAIN AN OUTSIDE COUNCIL AT AN HOURLY RATE. WE THINK FISCALLY THE BEST SITUATION TO SETTLE THE CASE NOW EVEN THOUGH WE DISPUTE IT, BECAUSE IT WILL COST A LOT MORE TO FIGHT THIS CASE.

SO THAT IS -- THAT IS THE RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: I AM JUST CONCERNS THIS CAN OPEN -- WE GO AHEAD AND SETTLE THIS, WE ARE OPENING THIS UP FOR ANY DEVELOPER, ANY APPLICANT TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

I AM CONCERNED OF A SLEEPRY SLOPE PRECEDENT THAT WE ARE

SETTING. >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: A SLIPPERY SLOPE. THERE IS -- I DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS THE SPECIFIC CASE, BUT WE DID DISCUSS IT IN DETAIL WITH THE FIVE OF YOU. THE NUANCE OF THIS CASE WITH THE SEARCH FOR RECORDS. WE DON'T FEEL THIS HAS A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF BEING OCCURRING IN OTHER CASES.

WE THINK IT IS MORE LIKELY A ISOLATED INCIDENT AND NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SUBJECT TO YOU FREQUENTLY OCCUR.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER 11. >> HERE IS SOMETHING THAT -- CHARLIE HUNT, MILL CREEK ESTATES.

THIS IS DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME. I BROUGHT IT UP MANY YEARS AGO IN 2018 WHEN GRAND OAKS WAS DOING THEIR PEACOCK.

EVERYTHING LOOKS NICE, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER AND JUST PASS IT. HERE ARE THE RECORDS OF MINUTES, ALL RIGHT. SO MINUTES THAT WERE RECORDED DURING THAT CONVERSATION OF GRAND OAKS.

AS IT GOES ON SPEAKING OF GRANTED OAK.

OKAY. AT 12:25 A.M., MORRIS CLARIFIED THAT $15 MILLION FOR THREE-MILE SEGMENTS OF ROAD WAS GUARANTEED REGARDLESS OF COST AT TIME OF DEVELOPMENT.

AVERY SMITH -- YOU KNOW THAT NAME.

SHE IS IN HERE QUITE OFTEN -- CONFIRMED WHATEVER THE COST, IT WAS COMMITTED TO COMPLETE. CARRYING ON.

11:32. WALDRON REQUESTED THE TIMELINE FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND AVERY SMITH RESPONDED.

CONTINUING ON. YES, MY NAME IS ON THIS.

11:40. I BROUGHT UP A CONFLICT BETWEEN PRIOR COMMISSIONER ALAN ROBERTS AND ST. JOHNS RIVER MANAGE 789 DISTRICT AND THE PROJECT THAT WAS TAKING PLACE THERE FOR THE EXPANSION OF STATE ROAD 16. BUT THEN 11:47, SMITH VOICED CONCERN OF TIMING OF THE PROJECT.

11:48, DEAN STATED THAT HE SUPPORTED THE PROJECT AS IT ADDRESSED ALL THE CONCERNS. 11:48 H 49, MORRIS SAID HE HAD

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MIXED FEELINGS ON THE PROJECT AND ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE SCHOOL AREAS WITH THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL DEFICIT.

11:53. MOTION BY DEAN.

SECOND BY MORRIS AND CARRIED 3-2, SMITH AND WALDRON DISSENTING. THAT WAS AN OOLD FIVE YEARS AGO CLOSE TO SIX. HOW THE RECORDS WERE KEPT REQUEST THE WRITTEN. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING NOW. THEY NEED TO GET BACK WITH THIS.

BECAUSE WHEN AVERY SMITH GOT POWERFUL DEVELOPMENT ATTORNEY CLEARLY STATED. THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL FIGHTING AND PAYING $45 MILLION TO SETTLE OUT ON A MEDIATION? COME ON. THIS IS ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. FROM.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.

SEEING NONE, QUELL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BACK TO THE GOOD.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: MR. MIGUT THERE ARE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAWSUIT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITH THE AGREEMENT AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF

THE THREE-MILE WIDENING PROJECT. >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: RIGHT, THIS LITIGATION IS IN COURT AROUND THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THAT CASE. THAT CASE WILL BE ACTIVE AND WILL STILL BE ACTIVE REGARD WILLING OF ANY ACTION TODAY.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MR. MIGUT.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD YOU SPARKED THE THOUGHT.

I WAS PROCESS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING PRIOR TO GOING INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. THESE SEEMS LIKE UNDERHAND AND TACTICS THAT WERE EMPLOYED BY THAT DEVELOPER TO SORT OF THROUGH SOME LOOPHOLE FIND A GOTCHA MOMENT WITH OUR OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO IN GOOD FAITH.

LAW SAID YOU BELIEVED THAT WE DID NOT -- FLOSS WRONGDOING BY THE OFFICE OF COUNTY ATTORNEY. WHAT IS YOUR POSITION? I TRUST YOUR LEGAL SYSTEM. I AM INCLINED TO SHOW THIS DEVELOP THEIR THESE START OF UNDERHANDED TACTICS ARE NOT GOING TO WORK. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ENRICH THEMSELVES BY DOING THINGS ARE NOT ABOVE BOARD, IN MY VIEW, NOT ABOVEBOARD. HAVING HAD TIME TO SIT WHAT YOU SAID COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

AT THAT COMMENT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

>>KAREN: I APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER WHITE BURST.

THIS BOARD HAS SHOWN THAT BE WE ARE WILLING TO HOLD THIS DEVELOPER ACCOUNTABLE AND I HAD, FOR ONE, IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE SETTLEMENT. MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS MAY DISAGREE, BUT AT THIS TIME, I CAN'T AGREE TO IN HAVING SAID THAT, IS THERE A MOTION? SOAP ONLY SEE A MOTION TO ADOPT

MR. MIGUT. >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: IF IT IS THE BOARD'S PRESSURE, TO DENY THE PROPOSED MEDIATION.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: AFTER THE MOTION TO DENY 23---

>> 470. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: APPROVING, ACCEPTING AND RATIFYING THE SETTLEMENT

[12. Consider appointments to the Land Acquisition Management Program (LAMP) Conservation Board.]

AGREEMENT BETWEEN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND SOUTHEAST DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, $45,000 TO THE OCA AND PAYMENT OF SAID FUND PURSUANT TO

THE AGREEMENT. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST:

SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 4-1.

THANK YOU, MR. MIGUT. >>COUNTY ATTORNEY MIGUT: THANK

YOU. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12. MISS SPENCER.

>> IF GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, MAD 2K578 CHAIR, CONGRATULATIONS, VICE-CHAIR, VICE-CHAIR ALAIMO.

CONGRATULATIONS. AGENDA ITEM 12, CONSIDERING APPLICANTS TO THE LAND ACQUISITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM LAMP BOARD. THREE OUT OF FOUR HAVE REAPPLIED LEAVING A VACANCY. ATTACHED ARE NINE APPLICATIONS AND A RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM LAMP.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: ANY QUESTIONS? GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER 12. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

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I WANT TO SAY I DID READ THROUGH ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD.

MY HUSBAND WAS LIKE -- I WISH I SWOO HAVE KNOWN, I WOULD HAVE APPLIED TO. A GOOD THING.

LAMP IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES. I THINK IT IS VERY HONORABLE THAT THE BOARD SENT YOU GUY AS LETTER SAYING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE -- ON THE BOARD AS WELL.

SO I AM JUST HERE TO STAND IN SUPPORT OF -- OF ROBINS, FLOWERS, MILLER AND CROSBY FOR THESE FOUR SEATS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ONCE AGAIN, JOE MCINERNEY BLACKBERRY LANE. AT THE LAST PZA MEETING.

THERE WERE SEATS BECOMING AVAILABLE THERE.

AND I DID STAND AND I SAID THAT BALANCE WAS AS VERY IMPORTANT THING AND THAT YOU AS COMMISSIONERS WERE RELYING ON THE 3SHGZZA TO REVIEW PROJECTS AHEAD HE TIME.

SUBMIT VIEWS THAT LOOKED AT BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUES.

I REQUIRED TO THAT AS BALANCED. I NAME TWO PEOPLE THAT I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO RECOMMEND NOMINATION FOR.

SO I STAND IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO SAY THAT SAME THING THAT TIBL YOUR NILLLAMP BOARD. TO GIVE YOU GOOD ADVICE.

TO GIVE YOU BALANCED ADVICE. LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE OR ALL SIDES OF AN ISSUE. I WILL SAY CANDIDLY THAT NICOLE CROSBY IS SO SKILLFUL AT LOOKING AT FACTS.

AT UNCOVERING FACTS. AND TRYING TO GIVE AN ONNEST ASSESSMENT OF HER CONTINUE. THAT BE I DO REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPOINT NICOLE CROSS BEE TO THIS LAMP BOARD.

I THINK SHE IS -- SHE OFFERS A VERY IMPORTANT ANALYSIS OF LAND ACQUISITION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12? SEEING NONE.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SPENCER? OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YES. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT REGARDING NICOLE CROSBY THAT I THINK -- THE LAMP BOARD UNANIMOUSLY SUGGESTED HER AND I HOPE THAT THE BOARD GIVES HER A

CHANCE AT THAT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD:

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION SARSZ SARAH OKAY, LET'S HAVE IT.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO REAPPOINT ROBIN SHORTY ROBINS, WAYNE FLOWERS AND J.B. MILLER TO IT THE LAMP CON VERY SLAYINGS BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS EXPIRED NOVEMBER

1, 2027. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I AM PREPARED --

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: 5-0. THAT PASSES.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION.

[9. Motion to adopt Resolution 2023-___ , authorizing the County Administrator, or designee, to terminate the Purchase and Sale Agreement dated September 8, 2023, between 400 Orange Ave, LLC and St. Johns County, Florida.]

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: PLEASE. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WOULD LIKE APPOINT ANELA LAHIRI TO THE LAMP CONSERVATION BOARD FOR A FIRST FOUR-YEAR DETERMINE EXPIRE NOVEMBER 2027.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 4-1. CONGRATULATIONS, MISS LAHIRI.

THANK YOU, MISS SPENCER. ITEM 13, FORMALLY CONSENT NUMBER 9 9.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US ADDITIONAL TIME

TO LOOK AT ITEM. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD:

ABSOLUTELY. >> TWO ISSUES, THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO ME ABOUT THE EFFECTIVE DATE WAS INCORRECT.

THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS SEPTEMBER 8 FOR THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT. AND THAT GIVES US THE TERMINATION DATE OF DECEMBER 7 FOR THE INSPECTION PERIOD.

THAT IS ONE THING. THERE IS TIME TO PUT THIS ITEM ON THE DECEMBER 5 AGENDA, IF THAT IS WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO. THE SECOND THING IS THE REASON WHY STAFF SUGGESTED TERMINATION. AS PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE,

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