Nov 07, 2023 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

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[GAVEL] GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.

WELCOME TO THE ST. JOHNS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING.

I DON'T HAVE THE BOOK THAT TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY.

GOOD MORNING. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST:

PRESENT. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: PRESENT.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: PRESENT. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: PRESENT.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: PRESENT. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: EVERYBODY JOIN US IN STANDING. DERRY GREEN, CHIEF MASTER SERGEANT -- TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION SERGEANT FROM THE ST.

JOHNS POLICE DEPARTMENT. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. THIS SATURDAY IS VETERANS DAY, AND I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO HONOR OUR VETERANS AND THOSE WHO SERVEDED IN THE ARMED FORCES. I WANT TO READ OUT OF PSALM 44, BLESSED BE MY LORD, MY ROCK THAT TRAINS MY HANDS FOR BATTLE.

STEADFAST AND MY FORTRESS AND STRONGHOLD AND WITH WHOM I SAKE REFUGE. AND LET'S PRAY.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THIS DAY AND TIME QUICK COME TOGETHER AND I HONOR OUR VETERANS THOSE WHO HAVE SERVE D FAMILIES WHO LOST LOVED ONES. BECAUSE OF THEIR SACRIFICES TO HAVE DEMOCRACY. PRAY FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS AND CLEAR THEIR MINDS AND GIVE THEM LEDERSHIP IN THE DECISION-MAKING, LORD AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE CLEAR DECISION THIS MORNING, GOD. I PRAY FOR OUR COUNTY STAFF AND ADMINISTRATORS, LORD, THIS MORNING.

GUIDE THEM AND DIRECT THEM IN YOUR WILL, LORD.

PRAY IN THEIR NAME, AMEN. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: SERGEANT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. TO LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGE TO THE NATION'S FLAG, DERRY CACHE GREEN MASTER SERGEANT, AIR FORCE.

>> I DON'T SEE MR. GREEN HERE, BUT I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE LPGA OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR AT WHICH IS IT STANDS ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[Proclamation Recognizing November 11, 2023, as Veterans Day]

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, SIR.

EVERYONE CAN BE SEATED. MR. DUDLEY, WILL YOU -- AND MACK, IF YOU JOIN ME ON THE FLOOR.

I WILL BE PRESENTING THE FIRST PROCLAMATION.

BEFORE I ASK MISS KELLER TO READ THE PROCLAMATION IN THE RECORD.

VETERANS DAY IS COMING UP THIS SATURDAY.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL FEEL THE WAY I DO.

OUR FAMILY AND I OWE A DEBT OF GRATITUDE.

OUR COUNTRY WOULD NOT BE MUCH WITHOUT THE SACRIFICE OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR ARMED FORCES. AND THE VETERANS TO CARRY THE BURDEN FOR ALL OF US. THE MEN STANDING BEHIND ME TO MY RIGHT, THEY ENSURE THAT THE VETERANS GET THE SERVICES THEY NEEDED, THE RECOGNITION THAT THEY DESERVE AND DEDICATED THIS CHAPTER IN THEIR LIVES TO SELFLESSLY SERVING THE VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY -- IF YOU EVER SEE MACK, JOSEPH MCDERMOTT OR COLONEL BILL DUDLEY OUT ON THE STREETS, PASSING IN THE HAPPENEDWAY, IN THE GROCERY STORE, SHAKE THEIR HANDS. AND SAY THANK YOU.

THEY ENSURE OUR VETERANS GET THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE.

MISS KELLER, READ THE PROCLAMATION.

>> A PROBLG BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS, THE ST. JONS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO IF AWARD VETERANS FOR PATRIOTISM, LOVE OF COUNTRY, FREEDOM AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND SACRIFICE IN THE COMMON GOOD.

WHEREAS, WE RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS COMMEMORATION AND HOPE THAT A GRATEFUL NATION MIGHT PAY APPROPRIATE HOMAGE TO THE VETERANS OF ALL ITS WARS WHO CONTRIBUTED SO MUCH TO THE PRESERVATION OF ITS NATION AND ANSWER THE PRAYERS OF MILLIONS AROUND THE GLOBE.

AND, WHEREAS, ON THIS DAY LET US IS SOLEMNLY REMEMBER THE SACRIFICES OF THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT STEPPED FOOD WHEN AMERICA NEEDED THEM. ALL THAT FOUGHT SO VALIANTLY ON

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LET US TASK OURSELVES TO THE PROMOTION OF AN ENDURING PEACE SO THEIR EFFORTS SHALL NOT HAVE BEEN IN VAIN.

WHEREAS, FLORIDA IS HOME TO APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILLION VETERANS AND REPRESENT THE THIRD LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF VETERANS IN THE NATION. NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT SATURDAY NOVEMBER 11, 2023, BE KNOWN AS VETERANS DAY, WITH RESPECT FOR AND IN VEHICLE ANYTHING OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS OUR SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN HAVE MADE TO THE CAUSE OF PEACE AND FREEDOM AROUND THE WORLD.

PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 7TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2023.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST: MY HONOR, GENTLEMEN, PRESENTING THIS PROCLAMATION IN RECOGNITION OF VETERANS DAY.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, COUNTY COMMISSIONERS I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THIS PROCLAMATION.

I SINCERELY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR VETERANS OVER THE YEARS. THE VETERANS COUNCIL IN JULY 2021 BY PROCLAMATION OF THIS ESTEEMED GROUP OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. OR THE COMMISSION BOARD THAT WAS IN AFFECT AT THAT TIME. THE COUNTY -- THE VETERANS COUNCIL IS A VERY ACTIVE COUNCIL.

PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE COUNCILS IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE DO A LOT OF THINGS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, SUCH AS THIS COMING VETERANS DAY, WE WILL HAVE A HUGE PROGRAM TO HONOR ALL OF OUR VETERAN WHO SERVED IN THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM. AND I EXTEND TO EVERYONE THAT IS HERE THIS MORNING AND EVERYONE WHO IS IN THE VIEWING AUDIENCE THIS MORNING AS WELL TO COME TO ANASTASIA BAPTIST CHURCH OVER ON THE ISLAND AT 1650 A 15. COME AND BE WITH US THAT DAY AND HELP TO PAY TRIBUTE AND HONOR TO OUR VETERANS THAT SERVED IN THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM. THE PROGRAM STARTS AT 11:00 THAT MORNING. A LOT OF DISPLAYS THAT WILL BE THERE IN THE ATRIUM AREA OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT THE VETERANS COUNCIL AND THE VETERANS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO COME OUT AND BE WITH US THAT MORNING.

AND HELP US PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR VETERAN WHO SERVE OUR GREAT NATION. THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THE VETERANS COUNCIL DOES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY SUCH AS MEMORIAL DAY. I MENTIONED VETERANS DAY.

THE WREATHS A ACROSS AMERICA IN DECEMBER, THE 16TH OF DECEMBER THIS YEAR. WE INVITE YOU TO COME THERE AS WELL. HELP LAY A WREATH ON THE HEADSTONE THERE IS WHO PAID THE SUPREME PRICE FOR SERVING THIS NATION. WE HONOR OUR P.O.W. AND M.I.A.

VETERANS, THOSE WHO -- SOME MO HAVE NOT RETURNED BACK TO THE SHORES THIS COUNTRY. AND WE DO THAT PROGRAM UP A AT CECIL FIELD AND REMEMBER THOSE VETERANS.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE THAT WE HAVE TO HHELP TO SUPPORT THE VETERANS WHO HAVE SERVE AND COME BACK AND NOW SUFFERING FROM SOME FORMS OF PTSD OR OTHER EFFECTS OF THEIR SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY IS THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT. THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT WAS STOOD UP IN JANUARY 2017 BY JUDGE HOWARD MC GILLIAM AND MYSELF THROUGH THE VETERANS COUNCIL.

HELP STAND UP THIS VETERANS TREATMENT COURT.

THROUGH THE FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO PAY FOR THE COORDINATOR FOR THAT PROGRAM, WE WERE ABLE TO STAND THIS PROGRAM UP IN JANUARY OF 2017.

SINCE ITS INCEPTION OF THAT PROGRAM, WE HAVE GRADUATED 101 VETERANS THROUGH THAT VETERANS TREATMENT COURT SUCCESSFULLY.

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EVERY WAY YOU MEASURE IT, A GREAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS ON THE RANGE OF 50% TO 60% OVERALL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 13% IS A TREMENDOUS RETURN ON INVESTMENT GOING TO SHOW THAT THE PROGRAM IS PAYING YOU HAVE AND PAYING OFF IN DIFFICULT GENDZ FOR THE COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY. SO A SPECIAL THANK YOU.

AND I THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WHO APPROVE THIS PROGRAM AND SUPPORTED IT THE WAY YOU HAVE SUPPORTED IT.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO NOW, UPON GRADUATION OF EACH OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM, EACH ONE OF THOSE VETERANS.

WHEN THE JUDGE CALLS HIM UP TO THE FRONT AND GRADUATES THEM, HE HANDS THEM A CERTIFICATE OF GRADUATION.

DAY LONG WITH THAT CERTIFICATE OF GRADUATION, HE ALSO HANDS THEM A CHALLENGE COIN, A COIN THAT HE AND I TOGETHER DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE GRADUATES OUT OF THE PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE COINS TODAY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THEM TO THE COMMISSION BOARD AND ALSO TO THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL IF WE COULD. MACK, IF YOU WILL HELP ME.

COULD EACH OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COME DOWN TO THE FRONT AND LET US PRESENT WITH YOU A COIN, PLEASE.

>> AND, AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN OUR VETERANS COUNCIL OVER THE YEARS.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I AM GOING TO TACK ON A REAL FOOTNOTE REAL QUICKLY. IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 10, IS THE 248TH ANNIVERSARY OR BIRTHDAY OF THE U.S. MARINE CORP. HOORAH!

[Proclamation Recognizing November 2023, as National Adoption Month]

>> NOW WE HAVE IT NATIONAL ADOPTION MONTH PROCLAMATION.

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I ALWAYS LOVED ADOPTION. THE BEST THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN OUR WORLD, ACTUALLY. FAMILIES.

>> WHEREAS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A LONG-STANDING TRADITION OF LOCAL CITIZENS OPENING THEIR HEARTS AND HOMES TO CHILDREN IN NEED OF A TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT HOME.

AS, WHEREAS, THE YOUTH OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE PRECIOUS TO EACH OF US AND REPRESENT OUR GREATEST HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.

AND ALL CHILDREN DESERVE A NURTURING, SAFE AND STABLE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THEY CAN GROW UP TO ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF A HEALTHY AND PRODUCTIVE LIFE. AND, WHEREAS, WHILE ALL YOUTH REQUIRE THE SUPPORT AND SECURITY THAT COMES FROM A LOVING FAMILY, CHILDREN AWAIT WILLING ADOPTION OFTEN NEED DEDICATED, RESOURCEFUL, COMPASSIONATE AND PATIENT CAREGIVERS TO HELP THEM WRK THROUGH THEIR DIFFICULTIES OF THE ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES. AND, WHEREAS, FINDING FOREVER HOMES FOR CHILDREN AND OUT-OF-HOME CARE IS AN OBJECTIVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WORKS TOWARD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

DURING NATIONAL ADOPTION MONTH THAT WE HOPE TO BRING GREATER AWARENESS OF THE NEEDS OF ADOPTED FAMILIES TO MAKE THE DREAM COME TRUE FOR ALL LOCAL CHILDREN AWAITING HOMES.

AND, WHEREAS, IN OBSERVING NATIONAL ADOPTION MONTH, WE RECOGNIZE THE VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ADOPTIVE PARENTS WHO HAVE FOUND REWARD IN THEIR COMMITMENT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CHILDREN. AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE REMEMBER ALL THE CHILDREN WHO ARE IN FOSTER CARE, WAITING TO BE ADOPTED AS PART OF A LOVING AND CARING FAMILY.

WHEREAS, AS WE GATHER TOGETHER AS A FAMILY, COMMUNITY, STATE AND NATION TO CELEBRATE AND GIVE THANKS TO OUR MANY BLESSINGS, IT IS OUR HOPE THAT ALL CHILDREN AWAITING ADOPTION WILL SOON FIND A PERMANENT AND LOVING FAMILY. AND, THEREFORE, IT IS FITTING TO PROMOTE THE GOALS OF THIS OBSERVANCE DURING THE SPECIAL SEASON WHICH GIVES US SO MANY REASONS TO BE GRATEFUL.

NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT NOVEMBER 2023 BE DESIGNATED NATIONAL ADOPTION MONTH, PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS 7TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2023.

DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD.

THEY HAVE SUPPORTED THE FAMILY INTEGRITY PROGRAM.

AND THE JOB DUTIES ASSOCIATED WITH CHILD WELFARE FOR THE PAST 19 YEARS. SO THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR COUNTY IS ADMINISTRATION. BEHIND YOU -- BEHIND ME, RATHER, YOU SEE OUR CASE MANAGEMENT STAFF.

THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK WITH THE FAMILIES AND HELP CHILDREN ACHIEVE PERMANENCY. I VALUE THEM SO MUCH AND RECOGNIZE WHAT THEY DO AND AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, THE JEW DISH SHOW, JUDGE THERAPY AND JUDGE MCGILLIAN, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, GUARDIAN AD LITEM PROGRAM, BUT OUR FOSTER AND ADOPTIVE PARENTS.

OPEN THEIR HEARTS AND HOMES TO GIVE PERMANENCY.

I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR ALL THAT THEY DO.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, CAN I HAVE ANYONE FROM YOUR GROUP COME

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[Certificate of Recognition for 10 Years of West Augustine's Participation in Keep Calm and Walk for Cancer]

BRINGING CANCER AWARENESS FOR TEN YEARS.

THANK YOU, GUYS, VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

THIS HAS BEEN A LONG JOURNEY. THIS KEEP CALM AND WALK FOR CANCER. RIGHT NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. HARRY DEAN TO COME DOWN. WE HONORED HIM IN THE TENTH YEAR KEEP CALM AND WALK FOR CANCER. THIS DISEASE, CANCER, IS A PART OF OUR AWARENESS WITH THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA.

WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CALL UP RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL PETENEY TO COME UP. WE WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME UP AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE JUST GOING TO HONOR THE TWO THAT WEREN'T HONORED AT THE ACTUAL EVENT.

HARRY DEAN, WE MEET WITH YOU EVERY MONTH MONTH.

WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR WEST AUGUSTINE.

A LONG BATTLE WITH CANCER. YOU BEAT IT.

AND WEARE APPRECIATIVE OF YOU AS OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

WE GAVE YOU YOUR PLAQUE ALREADY, BUT I ALSO WANT TO GIVE YOU A MUG. EVERY TIME YOU ARE PLAYING GOLF, YOU THINK OF US. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. I WANT TO BRING RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL VERNON PETENEY JR. TO THE FRONT.

WE HONORED HIS MOTHER IN THE CANCER WALK.

IN THE CANCER WALK, SOMETIMES WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SURVIVORS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE IN REMEMBRANCE.

AND HE LOST HIS MOM IN THE BATTLE LAST YEAR TO CANCER.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT READS: "WHO FACED CANCER WITH GRACE AND COURAGE. THOUGH THEY ARE GONE, THEIR SPIRIT STILL LIVES ON IN THE HEARTS FOREVER.

MAY THEIR STRENGTH CONTINUE TO INSPIRE US TO FIGHT FOR A CANCER-FREE WORLD." OUR HONOR TO HONOR YOUR MOTHER IN HER LONG BATTLE WITH CANCER.

I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE FOUNDER AND OUR CHAIR UP FOR THE

FINAL REMARKS. >> THANK YOU TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE PLACES. I AM INDEED HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK OF THE WEST AUGUSTINE 10TH ANNUAL KEEP CALM AND WALK FOR CANCER. WHEN I SAW MY RELATIVE IN MY COMMUNITY DYING FROM THIS DEADLY DISEASE, I KNEW IT WAS TIME TO DO SOMETHING. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD WITH THE WEST AUGUSTINE STEERING COMMITTEE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY AWARE.

WE PREVENT. AND WE ALSO ENCOURAGE, EMPOWER AND ENHANCE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS DEADLY DISEASE. IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY AT ALL.

WE HAVE HAD TO WALK ALONE, BUT NEXT YEAR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE UNDER THE SOUND OF MY VOICE, THAT YOU DON'T JUST TALK ABOUT IT. YOU SHOW ME THAT YOU SUPPORT KEEP CALM AND WALK FOR CANCER BY COMING OUT TO WEST AUGUSTINE.

AND I WANT THE ROWS TO BE FILLED WITH MORE THAN 150 PEOPLE.

WITH MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT LACE YOU ARE. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT GENDER YOU ARE. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOUR PROFESSION IS. CANCER BOTHERS AND TOUCHES ALL OF OUR HEARTS. WE WANT YOU TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT THE GOOD FAITH AND WE WANT TO YOU KEEP CALM AND WALK FOR CANCER. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE] .

[Proclamation Recognizing November 15-17, 2023, as Entrepreneurship Week at the link]

[APPLAUSE] >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THOSE FOLLOWING ALONG IN THE AGENDA, THE PROCLAMATION TO RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER 15-17 AS ENTREPRENEUR WEEK WAS GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THOSE FROM THE LINK I IN NOCATEE.

[Acceptance of Proclamations]

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PROCLAMATIONS? >> SO MOVED.

[Public Safety Update]

>> SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFICANCE ANY ANY BY SIMPLY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED.

THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE ACCEPTED. WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE. DIRECTOR SKIP COLE.

GOOD MORNING, WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, DIRECTOR SKIP COLE, DIRECTOR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN INCIDENT THAT IT HAPPENED ON SATURDAY. I AM SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT WE HAD A VERY DYNAMIC AND VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION, WHICH CULMINATED INTO A LETHAL FORCE INCIDENT WITH OUR DEPUTIES ON SATURDAY IN DAVIS PARK IN THE PRESENCE OF HUNDREDS OF PARENTS AND CHILDREN WHO WERE JUST TRYING TO ENJOY THEIR SATURDAY.

SOMETHING THAT NONE OF US COULD HAVE PLANNED FOR OR EVEN ANTICIPATED. WITH THAT SAID, I WILL JUST SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DO LIVE IN PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SAFEST COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY, WE ARE NOT IMMUNE TO THESE SORT OF THINGS. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST TO EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, BE VIGILANT. DON'T BE A SOFT TARGET.

CAREER CRIMINALS THAT COME FROM ELSEWHERE, THEY UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY COME TO OUR COMMUNITIES, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE UNLOCKED DOORS. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN A BUBBLE. REALLY, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO MAY LET THEIR GUARD DOWN. I SUGGEST THAT, WHILE IT IS STILL VERY UNLIKELY, BE VIGILANT.

PAY ATTENTION. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, GIVE US A CALL. WE WILL COME AND CHECK IT OUT.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO. I WILL REMIND EVERYBODY OF THAT.

I WILL SECONDLY SAY THAT IN OUR TODAY'S 24-HOUR NEWS CYCLE, JUST REMEMBER, MOST OF US WILL MOVE ON FROM THIS INCIDENT VERY QUICKLY. BUT THINK ABOUT THE DEPUTIES THAT -- THAT WOKE UP THIS MORNING THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY AND THEY HAD TO USUALLY THAT WILL FORCE.

THEY HAD TO TAKE HUMAN LIVES. WHILE THEIR LIVES THEMSELVES WERE IN DANGER AND THEY GO HOME TO THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR FAMILIES LOOK AT THEM DIFFERENTLY.

THINK ABOUT THAT. THINK OF FIRE RESCUE WHO HAD TO TREAT THIS INDIVIDUAL AFTER HE WAS WOUNDED.

THINK OF THE DISPATCHER THAT TOOK THAT CALL.

THINK ABOUT THE DETECTIVE THAT HAS TO ATTEND THAT AUTOPSY AND STAND OVER THAT BOD. YOU KNOW, THINK OF THE DETECTIVE THAT HAS TO GO AND TALK TO THAT INDIVIDUAL'S PARENTS.

THESE ARE VERY IMPACTFUL, EMOTIONALLY AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY TRYING THINGS. AND WHILE WE DO HAVE A GREAT SUPPORT. WE HAVE GREAT SUPPORT NETWORK.

MANY RESOURCES IN THE SHERIFF'S OFF OFFICE. IT IS STILL VERY DIFFICULT TO MOVE ON AND WE DEAL WITH THESE THINGS ALL THE TIME.

LASTLY I WILL SAY, THIS HAPPENED IN THE PRESENCE OF A LOT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. WE WERE VERY QUICK AND INTENTIONAL WITH COMMUNICATING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE LEAGUE ASSOCIATIONS AND LOCAL FAITH-BASED GROUPS TO TRY TO ASSEMBLE A NETWORK OF SUPPORT FOR THESE FOLKS.

REMEMBER THAT, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE DEALING WITH THIS.

MOST PEOPLE GO THEIR ENTIRE LIVES AND NEVER EXPERIENCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THESE CHILDREN HAVE SEEN IT AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE. SO I WILL END ON THAT SUBJECT WITH WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT.

THE OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT AND CARING IN SO MANY WAYS QUESTION RECEIVED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IT HAS BEEN AMAZING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR SUPPORTING US AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT US. IT MATTERS.

SWITCHING GEARS REAL QUICK. A PLUG.

IF MANY AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ATTENDED THE TRISTAN BAILEY GALA. A DISPUTE IN MY HOUSE.

ANYBODY STRAIGHTEN IT OUT FOR ME.

WE WILL SAY GALA. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD WAS THERE AND AN AMAZING EVENT. THEY TOOK THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE OUR VICTIM ADVOCATE ASHLEY MITCHELL FOR EVERYTHING SHE DID TO HELP THEIR FAMILY. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY ARE RAISING MONEY FOR FOUR PILLARS, FOR SCHOLARSHIPS, FOR KIDS AND FOLKS THAT KIND OF, I GUESS, DEMONSTRATE SIMILAR VALUES THAT THEY FELT BEST CAME OUT OF TRISTAN.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE OFFERING SELF-DEFENSE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO TEACH YOUNG PEOPLE HOW TO DEPEND THEMSELVES AND GAIN CONFIDENCE. THEY ARE ALSO GOING TO BE DOING WHAT THEY CALL, LIKE, INTERNET AND SOCIAL MEDIA SAFETY COURSES.

NOT JUST FOR POTENTIAL VICTIMS BUT MAYBE FOR BULLYING AS WELL.

LASTLY, THEY ARE GOING TO BE -- WHAT IS THE LAST THING, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU REMEMBER? EDUCATION, SCHOLARSHIPS, INTERNET SAFETY AND SOMETHING ELSE VERY IMPORTANT.

I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THE BAILEY FAMILY -- I HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING VIOLENT CRIME FOR 25 YEARS. I NEVER MET A FAMILY THAT DEMONSTRATED MORE GRACE, STRENGTH AND COURAGE IN UNIMAGINABLE TRAGEDY. AND THEY CONTINUE TO PASSIVELY

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AND EVERYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN HELPING THIS CAUSE CAN GO TO TRISTANBAILEY.COM AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

LASTLY BUT NOT LEAST, MISS JOY ANDREWS, CONGRATULATIONS.

WE HAVE BEEN PARTNERS WITH HER FOR YEARS AND WE LOOK VERY FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE PARTNERSHIP IN THE FUTURE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, ALL.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SKIP? >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: QUESTIONS FROM A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONER IF YOU HAVE THE TIME.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WANT TO SAY MY DAUGHTER WAS AT SWIM PRACTICE, PROJECT SWIM.

THE TEAM PLAYING FOR STATE AND THE KIDS ON THE SOCCER AND LA CROSSE TEAM. AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR RESPONSE. HOW YOU HANDLED IT.

DISTRACTED THE PERSON AWAY FROM THE KIDS.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW QUICK YOU RESPONDED.

AND THEN, ON TOP OF IT, YOU FOLLOW UP WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS KIND OF TRAUMA AFTER THE FACT WITH THE GALA- GALA. SO LUCKY HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO HAVE YOU HERE. THANK YOU.

>> I WILL STAY TO THAT POINT, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT SHERIFF HARDWICK, GIVEN THE EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THAT INCIDENT. HOPEFULLY THAT WAS HELPFUL AS

WELL. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

DEAN? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: IN ADDITION TO COMMISSIONER JOSEPH'S KIND COMMENTS.

MYSELF AND GABE AND SHERIFF HARDWICK AND COMMANDER BEAVER MET WITH 50 HOMEOWNERS AROUND THE AMPHITHEATRE TO DISCUSS VARIOUS ISSUES AND TO BRING THIS CLOSE TO HOME AS YOU JUST POINTED OUT. A YOUNG MOTHER WITH SEVERAL CHILDREN. AND SHE BROKE DOWN IN TEARS THANKING THE SHERIFF AND COMMANDER BEAVER OF THE ACTION OF THE DEPUTY SATURDAY MORNING. SHE WAS THERE.

SHE WAS THERE WITH HER CHILDREN AND FRIGHTENED TO DEATH.

SHE BROKE DOWN LAST NIGHT IN EXPRESSING HER THANKS -- THANKFULNESS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, YOUR DEPARTMENT.

IT IS A REAL-LIFE SITUATION AND IT WAS PRETTY MOVING LAST NIGHT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VERY GOOD. >> I WOULD SAY THAT IS A TRIBUTE TO OUR SUPPORT, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR TRAINING AND PROFESSIONALISM AND THE GRACE OF GOD. SO, THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: CHIEF ROB SHAW, GOOD MORNING.

>> JEREMY ROBSHAW SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF CHIEF MCGHEE THIS MORNING IN. HE IS AWAY.

OUR FIRE EXPO THAT KICKED OFF THIS MORNING.

HE IS JOINED CHIEF WITH THE CITY OF AUGUSTINE TO DO OPENING COMMENTS. A TWO-DAY EVENT.

SPEAKERS COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

FIRST RESPONDERS TRAVELED FOR TRAINING.

HANDS-ON TRAINING AS WELL AS TEACHER-TYPE TRAINING THAT WILL TAKE PLACE. HIGH-LEVEL TRAINING.

GOING TO BE EXCEPTIONAL FOR OUR PERSONNEL TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. SO THAT IS HAPPENING.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT IT WAS AN EVENT OR AN INCIDENT THAT TOOK PLACE A FEW MONTHS AGO.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT IN ADDITION TO FIREFIGHTING IS OUR EMS EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE.

OUR DIRECTOR IS AT THE FOREFRONT AND PUSHING FOR NEW WAYS TO IMPROVE THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.

CARDIAC ARREST CARE IS A PRIMARY OBJECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

HE IS ON THE FOREFRONT OF ALL THE NEW TECHNOLOGY HELPING PEOPLE IN THIS SITUATION. A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL GO INTO CARDIAC ARREST AT HOME.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS. WE IMMEDIATELY RESPONDED PROVIDING CARE. THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CASE IS THE INDIVIDUAL WAS IN CARDIAC ARREST FOR UPWARDS OF 72 MINUTES. THAT IS UNHEARD OF IN THE MEDICAL WORLD. AND DUE TO THE CARE, DUE TO THE PROCEDURES WE IMPLEMENTED AND HE HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTING OVER TIME, THIS INDIVIDUAL NOT ONLY REGAINED CONSCIOUSNESS, HIS HEART STARTED BEATING AGAIN. BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY IN THIS SCENARIO, HE WAS ABLE TO WALK OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AND GO BACK TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE WITH HIS FAMILY ONLY SEVERAL WEEKS LATER. THIS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL 70 YEARS OLD. YOU KNOW, SO CERTAINLY WITH A LOT OF LIFE LEFT TO LIVE AND WE ARE REMINDED IN THIS SITUATION THE PROTECTION AND THE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO. IN THIS INSTANCE, AN INDIVIDUAL WHOSE LIFE WOULD HAVE ENDED THAT DAY, BUT NOW HE GETS TO EXTEND THAT LIFE WITH HIS FAMILY, WITH FUTURE GENERATIONS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE GET TO BE A PART OF.

I DON'T THINK WE EVER WANT TO FORGET.

THAT IS WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO. WHY THE TIME IS PUT IN.

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AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT.

AND WITHOUT THE EFFORTS OF THE COUNTY IN GENERAL.

[Clerk of Court's Report]

THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, CHIEF.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE CLERK OF COURT'S REPORT. DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE FROM THE CLERK OF COURT? OH, HI.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. DEWEL ANDERSON.

I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THREE UPDATES OF THE CLERK OF COURT AND THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, HONORING VETERANS, ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY, RESERVES AND THEIR DEPENDENTS. WAIVING THE STANDARD FEES FOR PASSPORED AND NOTARY. ELIGIBILITY, A DISCHARGE, MILITARY ID, MILITARY DEPENDENT ID OR SHOW A DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH A VETERANS DESIGNATION.

ENCOURAGE THOSE TO RECORD THEIR DISCHARGE DOCUMENTS WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE. IN D 214 HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT WILL HAVE VETERANS HAVE BENEFITS.

PROVIDING THESE SERVICES A SMALL GESTURE TO THANK THOSE IN THE ARMED FORCES FOR THEIR SERVICES IN OUR COUNTRY.

OUR OFFICE CONTINUES TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO RECOVER DOLLARS FROM A FRAUD EVENT. DUE TO QUICK ACTION OF RECOGNIZING THE EVENT, WE WERE ABLE TO RECOVER 60% OF THE FUND.

THE VISIONARY MAINS UNDER ACTIVE INVESTIGATION WITH NO UPDATES AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. WE WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE AS THE DEVELOPMENTS UNFOLD. AS CLERK PATTY MENTIONED PROTECTION IS ONE OF THE OUR OFFICE'S HIGHEST PRIORITY.

WE ARE ENSURE THAT THE COUNTY IS MADE WHOLE WITHOUT USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS. CONCURRENTLY WORKED REQUEST COUNTY STAFF TO IDENTIFY A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR TO MANAGE THE COUNTY'S VENDORS. THE THIRD-PARTY VENDOR WILL JOY PROVIDE COUNTY INFORMATION AND IDENTITY PROTECTION.

MORE TO FOLLOW AS THE DETAILS ARE FINALIZED ON THIS ITEM.

LASTLY, TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL ADOPTION MONTH, THE CLERK'S OFFICE WILL HOST A ADOPTION CEREMONY AT 10 A.M. ON THE COUNTY COURT ROOM ANNEX. CELEBRATE ADOPTION FINALIZATIONS WITH LOCAL FAMILIES. THE CLERK'S OFFICE WORKS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE FAMILY INTEGRITY PROGRAM, DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, GUARDIANED A LIE TIM AND THE FLORIDA CIRCUIT COURT TO PUT THE EVENT TOGETHER.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEE EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE.

[Public Infrastructure Update]

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MISS ANDERSON.

ANY YES, SIR? THANK YOU.

NOW MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE.

MR. DE-SOUZA, GOOD MORNING. >> DICK DE-SOUZA, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT WITH YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE.

GO THROUGH THE TEAM BECAUSE WE ADDED TWO NEW MEMBERS FOR THE TEAM. FLORIDA NEIL SHRINKA AND DR.

BRENNAN ASPLEN, THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT OF FACILITIES FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND BRINGING SYNERGY ACROSS THE COUNTY, IN OUR DEPARTMENTS AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES.

WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING OVER FOUR PROJECTS.

2209 EXTENSION FROM THE TERMINUS IN SILVER LEAF TO STATE ROAD 16.

A RECAP OF OUR 2020 IF REPAYMENT PROGRAM.

AND PONTE VEDRA PROJECT AND THE 207 WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.

FIRST ONE WE ARE GOING OVER THE 2209 EXTENSION TO THE IGP INTERSECTION AND ALL THE WAY FLEW 16.

CONSTRUCTION OF COUNTY ROAD 2209 WHERE IT CURRENTLY ENDS IN SILVER LEAF, CONTINUES DOWN TO A FOUR-LANE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO STATE ROAD 16. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THOROUGHFARES. AND THE IMPORTANT NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDORS AND UTILIZING A PARTNERSHIP WITH D.O.T., STATE APPROPRIATIONS, IMPACT FEES AND OTHER PARTNERSHIPS.

JUST KEY HIGHLIGHTS ON THIS ONE WE ARE IMPROVING THIS FUNDING IN THE -- WE ARE ACTUALLY APPROVING THIS PROJECT PROJECT IN TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA. HAND THIS TOTAL COST INCLUDING UTILITIES FOR $38 MILLION. AND WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH GRANTS AND LEGISLATIVE OFFICE TO SECURE ADDITINAL FUNDS THROUGH STATE APPROPRIATIONS TO INCLUDE WORK ON STATE ROAD 16.

SO IT MIGHT BE SOME FAMILIAR IMAGES, BUT HERE IS WHAT THE INTERSECTION WILL LOOK LIKE AT IGP AND STATE ROAD 16 AS WELL AS IF YOU LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE THE ACTUAL EXTEND FROM WHERE IT ENDS UP ON SILT HAVE I LEAF PAST THE NEW HIGH

[00:40:04]

NEXT IS JUST A RECAP OF OUR 2023 PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

THE COUNTY'S ANNUAL BUDGET TO REPAIR AND REJUVENILE NIGHT.

THREE LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR THIS.

FULL RECLAMATION THAT TAKES THE LAYER OF ASPHALT AND SOME OF THE ROCK UNDERNEATH AND REBUILD THE ROAD.

MILLING AND RESURFACING WITH A BIG PORTION OF THE ASPHALT.

REBUILD THOSE ROADS AND BOTH HAVE A BRAND-NEW LOOKING ROAD AND EXTENDS THE LONGEVITY AND FINALLY REJUVENATION OF THE ROAD. USING CERTAIN MIXTURES THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THE ASPHALT. LAST YEAR, WE SAW 46 MILES OF SURFACE IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS ALL THREE OF THESE SERVICES.

AND THIS PROGRAM IS PAID FOR BY ANNUAL BCC SUPPORT OF $12 MILLION THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND.

TWO HIGHLIGHTS. SOME OF THE BRONX WE HAVE GOT, 2209, MILLING AND RESURFACING AND OTHER SIDE OF 210 AT TWIN CREEKS ALTERNATE 210 FULL RECLAMATION.

ON BOTH PHOTOS, OLDER ASPHALT AND NEWER, DARKER ASPHALT.

THE NEWLY REJUVENATED ASPHALT WITH A NEW ROAD THAT WILL LAST US FOR A SIGNIFICANT LENGTH OF TIME.

NEXT UP WITH OUR PONTE VEDRA NOURISHMENT PROJECT.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. SO THE -- JUST GIVING REALLY HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PONTE VEDRA NOURISHMENT PROJECT. WE SET OUT THE SURVEY.

AND THE SURVEY RESULTS ARE DUE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH OR DECEMBER 1. RIGHT NOW WE ARE ABOUT 40%.

CHECKED IN MORNING, 42% RESPONSE RATE FROM THE COMMUNITY WITH THE -- ABOUT A 98% AGREEMENT WITH ABOUT 20 PEOPLE OUT OF THE 200 PEOPLE WE HAVE GOTTEN BACK SAYING THEY DID NOT WANT THE PROJECT. WITH ONLY ONE EXPLANATION OF THOSE 20. NEGATIVE RESPONSES THAT'S THEY DIDN'T FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD PAY FOR IT AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SHOULD PAY FOR THIS PROJECT; HOWEVER, WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY, WE ARE DOING IT, AND A DEP PERMITTED REQUIREMENT WHICH BASICALLY DRAWS THE LINE ON THE OCEANSIDE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF MEET WITH THE DEP.

IT WENT WELL. THEY SHOULD BE ESTABLISHING THAT ECL PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS EARLY '24.

WE SHOULD HAVE THE PLANS AND SPECS DONE BY THE END OF THE MONTH WHICH WILL GIVE US ENOUGH THE -- OF THOSE DETAILS TO GO INTO THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. WE WILL GO INTO THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND WILL BE THINKING A COUPLE OF TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND IN FEBRUARY, MAYBE MARCH, COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A FINAL NUMBER OF WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO COST AND HAVE THE CONTRACTOR WAITING FOR THE BOARD APPROVAL.

AND A COMPLETION RATE. AND COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT IS THE UPDATE FOR THIS PROJ

PROJECT. >> COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING, NEIL SHRINKA, INTERIM UTILITY DIRECTOR.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. CONSTRUCTION OF MGD RECOGNIZE LA RATION FACILITY. THIS IS TRIGGERED TO MEET GROWTH DEMANDS AND REALLY ADDRESS COMPLIANCE TO THE SENATE HOUSE BILL 64. IT ALSO HAS ABOUT 12 MILES OF SEWER AND RECLAIMED WATER MAINS. IT IS ONE PROJECT.

IT IS YOUR LARGEST PROJECT TODAY IN 180 MILLION.

ONE PROJECT. TWO PHASES.

TRIGGERED THE FIRST PHASE WITH DESIGN WITH EARLY PROCUREMENT AND SITE PREPARATION AT $30 MILLION.

WE ARE 60% COMPLETE ON THAT. THE CONSTRUCTION WAS INITIALLY BUDGETED AT 135, INFLATIONARY PRESSURES AND DEMAND, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT NUMBER TO BE 15 TOO 20% HIGHER.

WE ARE STILL NEGOTIATING THAT FIGURE.

A LOT OF PUBLIC BENEFITS, COMMISSIONERS.

BUT TWO TO HIGHLIGHT, PROTECTING THE MATANZAS RIVER.

BIG THING REMOVING THE RISK OF SEWER SPILLS.

OUR COMMITMENT TO WATER CONSERVATION KEEPS GOING 100% RECLAIMED WATER FOR THE COUNTY. PROJECT DELIVERY HIGHLIGHTS TODAY WAS FOCUSED ON REALLY THE DELIVERY SYSTEM THAT WE ARE BRINGING TOGETHER AS A PROGRESSIVE DESIGN IF BUILD.

AND ONE THING TO CHERISH, THE INNOVATIVE THAT STAFF HAS GIVEN THIS PROJECT TO MAKE THIS MORE THAN JUST A PROJECT.

THE PROJECT HAVE SIT A MILE WEST OF 95 ON STATE ROAD -- COUNTY

[00:45:03]

AN INITIATIVE. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THIS WILL PROVIDE HUGE REDUCTIONS IN .7 MILLION POUNDS OF NUTRIENTS, SOMETHING THE STATE WATCHES TO THE MATANZAS OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. THAT WAS PRETTY BIG FOR US.

ANOTHER IS CONSERVATION. WE TALK OF CONSERVATION.

THIS FACILITY WILL CONSERVE 80 ACRES OF -- OF THE SIDE SPACE.

55% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT SPACE DOWN THERE.

SORRY, SO THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT CREATIVE IDEAS THAT STAFF BRINGS TO. AND PURPLE PIPE THAT PROVIDES RECLAIMED WATER FROM THE FACILITY NORTH.

I KNOW IT IS KIND OF TWISTED, BUT THAT GIVES THE BEST FEATURE FOR THIS GOING NORTH. AND THE INNOVATIVE PART, WILL FEATURE THREE OF OUR WASTEWATER PLANTS GRIDS.

THE EARLY INVESTMENT IS A $40 MILLION INVESTMENT THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY IN THE FUTURE FOR THIS COUNTY FOR A RECLAIMED WATER. WE CALL IT THE COLIN GRID AS HE STARTED WITH IT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE INFRASTRUCTURE DELIVERY AS I MENTIONED.

THIS IS A PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD.

AND WHAT THIS DELIVERY SYSTEM.SHOW IS, COMMISSIONERS, ONE CONTRACTOR, ONE ENTITY. FAST DECISION-MAKING MATRICES.

AND TO MAKE FAST DECISIONS AROUND THE PROCESS.

OWNER GETS TO CONTROL THE CAUSE. AND WE GET TO TALK OF THE EARLY CHALLENGES WE FACE BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND REALLY FEATURES US TO NEGOTIATE AND GET A BETTER PRICE.

ONE OF MY FAVORITES IS ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS THROUGH COVID. WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE IF NOT QUADRUPLE LEAD TIMES. THIS SYSTEM WILL HELP US GET THERE. THAT IS OUR UPDATE,

COMMISSIONERS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE

DELIVERY TEAM? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I HAVE A COMMENT. YOU WILL HAVE TO FORGET MY NERDINESS, BUT NEIL'S PRESENTATION FOR ME PERSONALLY IS THE MOST EXCITING PART OF TODAY'S MEETING.

MAINLY PAUSE I SPENT 21 YEARS AS A WATER BOY AND ALSO WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE WATER REUSE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS A TWO-FOR-ONE. NOT ONLY HAVE DIRTY DISCHARGES TO OUR SURFACE BAUER LIKE THE MATANZAS RIVER, BUT YOU RETREAT THE WASTEWATER TO CONDITIONS AND PROVIDE IT TO HOMEOWNERS AND D.O.T. RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND IT OTHER RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND 30 DEMAND OF REDUCTION IN FRESH WATER.

YOU MAY OR MAY NOT FOLLOW WHAT IS A INVOLVED WITH THE WATER SUPPLY LONG TERM. WE ARE IN PROCESS OF NEGOTIATIONS OF THE RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

AND A TWO-FOR-ONE THAT WE NEED TO IN MY OPINION APPRECIATE.

SO -- AND WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON OUR HANDS THIS MORNING.

I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE DONE WAY BEFORE NOON WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. ONE THROUGH SEVEN.

SO I MIGHT JUMP IN AGAIN AND FILIBUSTER SOME MORE TO WARN

[Legislative Affairs Update]

IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.

MOVE INTO OUR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS UPDATE.

MR. TECKLER. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. GREAT TO SEE YOU AS WELL.

OUR PRELIMINARY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE LOOKING INTO THE SESSION.

KINDS OF A HIGH-LEVEL VIEW. A LOT OF KNOWN, UNKNOWNS A THIS POINT BUT WILL GO THROUGH ON THE STATE SIDE AND THE FEDERAL SIDE.

[00:50:04]

AS WE SPEAK, THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING THROUGH A SPECIAL SESSION.

THEY HAVE SEVERAL NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS, FOREIGN AFFAIRS, HURRICANE RECOVERY, SECURITY INFRASTRUCTURE THE HOME RESILIENCY PROGRAM WHICH IS MY FLORIDA HOME AS WELL AS THE STUDENT EMPOWERMENT SCHOLARSHIPS.

THIS SESSION WILL BE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON THOSE TOPICS.

THEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I BROUGHT UP A COLUMN HERE.

POLITICAL CLIMATE. OVERALL, I THINK THERE ARE THREE ELEMENTS THAT WILL AFFECT HOW APPROPRIATIONS AND THE TYPICAL ISSUES DURING AN ELECTION CYCLE AND QUESTIONS OF LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.

IT IS ALWAYS INTERESTING HOW THE TWO BRANCHES WORK TOGETHER IN AREAS THAT YOU DISAGREE ON AND AREAS THAT YOU DON'T.

AND THAT PLAY IS ALWAYS A BIG FACTOR.

AND, OF COURSE, THE OVERWHELMING FACTOR THE VETO.

ALL THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, LOOKING AT REGULAR SESSION. WE HAVE THE BUDGET AS COMMISSIONER DEAN YOU ALWAYS SAY.

THE ONLY ITEM THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS TO PASS.

WE START THERE, OF COURSE, AND WE HEAR THAT HEALTH CARE IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE. CONSERVATION.

$300 MILLION FROM THE RURAL -- FROM THE RURAL FAMILY LANDS PROGRAMMING THAT WAS VETOED LAST SESSION.

THAT MONEY IS COME BACK UP. SO WE EXPECT TO SEE IS THAT, OF COURSE, THE LIVE LOCAL ACT NEED MODIFICATIONS.

WE HEAR THAT WILL HAPPEN. THE STATE COURT SYSTEM.

A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC AND THIS ONE IS HEADED TOWARD REGULAR SESSION AS WELL. AND, OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC SCHOOL REGULATIONS THAT WE MOST SENATOR HUDSON, MOST RECENTLY DISCUSSED IT. AS WE MOVE FORWARDS, I WILL IN BRING A SLIDE HERE TODAY. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN BRING THIS THING TO WORK HERE. STATE APPROPRIATIONS.

LOOKING OVERALL ON THE BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, THE GENERAL STEMMING CONFERENCE MET IN AUGUST.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT $8.8 BILLION IN SURPLUS THIS YEAR. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE GENERAL REVENUE IS GROWING, $1.6 BILLION INCREASE THAN THE ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS WHICH IS 3.6 INCREASE FOR FISCAL '24.

FISCAL '25, $1.2 BILLION INCREASE ABOVE EXPECTATIONS.

THEN IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE COLLECTED, THE LAST -- THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR EXCEEDED $1 BILLION THAN WHAT WAS EXPECTED. AND THE LEGISLATURE HAS EVEN MORE MONEY TO WORK WITH THAN WAS PREVIOUSLY STEMMED WHICH IS A ALWAYS GOOD THING. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET TO OUR TOPIC, OUR LEGISLATIVE REQUEST FOR THE 2024 SESSION.

RIGHT NOW 96.5 MILLION IN LEGISLATIVE REQUESTS.

COVER A WIDE RANGE, EMERGENCY RESPONSE INFRASTRUCTURE.

HERE WE ARE TALKING OF THE FIRE STATION.

REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY. ALSO A PROJECT I WILL BE BRINGING UP ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S FACILITIES. WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. COUNTY ROAD 16 -- EXCUSE ME STATE ROAD 16. COUNTY ROAD 2209.

COASTAL PROTECTION. SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

CORPORATE POINT. AND SAN SEBASTIAN, PARK AND BOAT RAMP. THE ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION OF ALANO BEACH. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BUDGET AND POLICY OPPORTUNITIES THAT RECENTLY CAME UP.

ONE TOPIC THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IS THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS. I AM PUTTING THIS IN A POLICY AREA BECAUSE THE ISSUE HERE IS WE HAVE 1.-- JUST WANT TO GET ANY NUMBERS RIGHT, 1.2 MILLION ON THE FIRST FUNDS THAT WE POTENTIALLY MAY RECEIVE. ACTUALLY I THINK THE MANAGING ENTITY THAT WILL RECEIVE IT. BUT THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A QUESTION OF HOW -- HOW LONG IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO EXTEND THE FUNDS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IS CONCERNED THAT WE NEED TO CARRY FORWARD PROVISION TO ALLOW ADEQUATE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THESE FUNDS. THE OTHER ISSUES.

IT IS HARD TO PROJECT IN A SERIES OF FIVE YEARS OUT WHEN THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED TO THE MANAGING ENTITIES AND HOW MUCH. AND SO THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF KFRPTS ARE LOOKING FOR LANGUAGE THAT -- THAT, I GUESS, CODIFIES THE PROJECTION OUTLOOK. AND HERE WILL HELP MAKE

[00:55:02]

AND WE CAN MAKE GAINS IN EFFICIENCY WITH A NEW CAPACITY AND GET THAT FACILITY. THE EXISTING OUT OF A FLOOD ZONE WHICH IS HUGE. ON TOP OF IT, THIS FACILITY IS REGION PAL BECAUSE IT SERVES PUTNAM, FLAGLER AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I WAS INFORMED YESTERDAY THAT NOT ONLY DOES ST. JOHNS SHERIFF SUPPORT THIS BUT THE PUTNAM SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS BEHIND IT, FLAGLER COUNTY SHERIFF IS BEHIND IT AND A LOT OF GOOD NEWS ON THAT FRONT.

I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION ABOUT STATE AND FEDERAL ADVOCACY.

WE ARE FOCUSED ON WORKING TO GET BUDGET POLICY PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD THROUGH, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, AS MUCH AS MY OFFICE DOES, THE REAL ADVOCACY STARTS WITH THIS BOARD AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK YOU DO WHEN YOU MAKE TRIPS TO TALLAHASSEE AND D.C.

I SAW IT WHEN IN YOU OPINION OCTOBER IN THE NEXT MEETING UP THERE. THE CHANCE TO HAVE YOUFIES FACE WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS EXPLAINING OUR PRIORITIES MADE A HUGE IMPACT. AND I BELIEVE MAKING AN IMPACT GOING FORWARD COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. YOU WATCH THE MEMO MECHANICS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I AM EXPECTING A LOT OF GOOD RETURN FOR THESE TRIPS. LET'S SEE.

NEXT TOPIC. THIS IS THE INTERESTING TOPIC.

FEDERAL AFFAIRS. AS YOU KNOW THINGS ARE -- THINGS ARE ALWAYS CHAOTIC IN D.C. I THINK IT IS BY ITS NATURE.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS, THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION EXPIRES NOVEMBER 17. SO ONE OF THE PROBLEMS HERE IS, WE GO FROM SHORT-TERM RESOLUTION TO SHORT TERM RESOLUTION TO SHORT-TERM RESOLUTION. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CURRENT CLIMATE WE HAVE -- AND WE ARE NOT TALKING OF THE DELAY IN GETTING THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.

BUT HAD THIS CURRENT CLIMATE, THIS ENCOURAGES FEDERAL AGENCIES TO RESIST MAKING FUNDING DECISIONS IN ANNOUNCING NEW GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE EFFECTS THIS HAS ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE SIGNATURE OF COURSE -- WE HAVE A $4 MILLION REQUEST FOR STATE ROAD 16 THROUGH CONGRESSMAN RUTHERFORD MOVING THROUGH THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS.

BUT WITH THE SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS, PROCESS GETS DELAYED.

TIME FRAME GETS DELAYED. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IT.

WE HAVE OUR FEDERAL LOBBYING TEAM WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THEIR HAPPENS. WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF IT AND IT FEELS GOOD. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE $73 MILLION FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION DECISION TO PROTECT STATE ROAD A 15. THAT IS A BIG DECISION THAT INVOLVES EMERGENCY FUNDS. THE MONEY IS THERE.

IT IS SITTING THERE IN THE AGENCY.

BUT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE SMART-TERM RESOLUTION AND NOT PERMANENT BUDGET. WE ARE WAITING ON IT AND HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD. HOPE IT IS ALL THE WAY TO CHRISTMAS EVE, WHEN WE PASS THE FINAL CR, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET A GOOD DECISION ON THAT PROJECT.

AND THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE RAILROAD CROSSING ELIMINATION GRANT WHICH IS HIGH PRI FOR THE BOARD.

ONE OF THE ISSUES WE ARE WAITING FOR NEGOTIATIONS OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE WARD IS OPEN SINCE JUNE.

WE ARE HOPING AS AGAIN THE PROCESS MOVES FORWARD THAT THAT GRANT OPPORTUNITY WILL COME OPEN BECAUSE WE ARE READY TO APPLY FOR IT. AND MR. CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M

HERE TO ANSWER THEM. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MR. TEKLER, YOU COVERED A LOT OF GROUND.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WANT TO SAY I MET YOU CAN YESTERDAY AND I AM IMPRESSED HOW YOU HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF ALL THINGS COMING FORWARD.

I AM AMAZED WHEN I HEAR YOU SPEAK AND APPRECIATE THE WADE

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

YOU LOOK OUT TO THE COUNTY. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR.TECKLER COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ABSOLUTELY, SIR EXTRA. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: DELETIONS TO

THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NONE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I HAVE NONE.

WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: A THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. GOOD MORNING.

[01:00:07]

>> BJ KALALY. CONSENT 9, 210260-00000, 241 LIBERIA STREET. IN THE FUTURE WHEN SURPLUS OWNED PROPERTY IS ON SALE, PLEASE INCLUDE A PARCEL NUMBER IF ADDRESS IS OR IS NOT AVAILABLE. CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 9 IS PARCEL 210260-00000, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE IN LINCOLNVILLE CRA.

THE CITY OF AUGUSTINE HAS NOT NEGOTIATED WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY SINCE 1918 TO ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY FOR AFFORDED FOR.

INSTEAD THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE DECIDED 450 NORTH HOLMES BOULEVARD IN THE COUNTY AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT IS INTERESTING AND CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN DUVAL COUNTY PURCHASE TWO ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN:MAY 2023 FOR ROSA IN PARISH FOR $442,500. LET'S SEE IF THEY BID ON THIS PARCEL. WHAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN BLEMENT TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PARCEL IS NOT AFFORDABLE.

IN THE PAST, 241 NUPLIBERIA STREET.

ADJACENT TO 249 LIBERIA. IT IS INTERESTING WHAT IS GOING SON BECAUSE ALL OF THE BUILDING -- A LOT OF THE BUILDING DASH -- AND MOSTLY GENTRIFICATION THAT AND DRIVE DOWN.

AND SEE THE STICK HOUSES ON THE WEST -- ON THE WEST.

ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK THE QUESTION AND HOPEFULLY GET THE ANSWER.

HOW MUCH IS CURRENTLY IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND BUDGET FOR THE COUNTY? THANK YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MISS KALALY.

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MISS ANDREWS, HAVE SOMEONE GET THE ANSWER FOR MISS KALALY. YES, IT CHAIR.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: MOTION IF. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: SECOND.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSE? ALL RIGHT.

THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NONE NO. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I HAVE NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NONE.

[1. Total earned unused and undistributed revenue]

OFFICERING. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: NOTION APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ALAIMO, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OPPOSE $? THAT PASS USE A NUMBER NEWSLY.

WE ARE READY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.

AND OUR TAX COLLECTOR, MR. DEN DEN.

GOOD MORNING, SIR. WELCOME.

>>DENNIS HOLLINGSWORTH: GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. I AM DEN DEN, YOUR ST. JOHNS COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR AND, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SACRIFICE TO THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

UNLESS YOU ARE IN PUBLIC OFFICE, I DOUBT THAT THE PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF TIME YOU GIVE TO THEM.

SO THANK YOU. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK -- CONGRATULATE MISS ANDREWS. I WANT TO ENSURE YOU THAT YOUR TAX COLLECTOR AND STAFF WILL BE STANDING BY WITH ANY INFORMATION WE CAN GIVE YOU AND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ANY INFORMATION. CONGRATULATIONS.

AS YOUR TAX COLLECTOR WITH 218-36, WE HAVE PREPARED AND PEN FROM THE WITH YOU THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE UNUSED EARNED REVENUES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 2023.

AS YOU HAVE SEEN WE RETURNED TO THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY THROUGH YOU AND THE OTHER TAXING AUTHORITIES $8.8 -- $8,8255 NOW, 475.85. THIS YEAR.

OF THIS $169,119.52 HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN REMITTED TO YOU THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHICH LEAVES A BALANCE $1 NOW, 864,315.11 WHICH WAS DEPOSITED INTO ALL OF YOUR ACCOUNTS LAST WEEK.

SINCE 1999, WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THE ST. JOHNS TAX COLLECTOR AND STAFF HAVE TURNED BACK TO YOU, THE STEVENS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, $10 04,287, 262.92 IN UNUSED EARNED REVENUE BY YOUR STACKS COLLECTOR'S OFFICE.

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IN ADDITION TO THE COLLECTION INVESTMENT AND DISTRIBUTION OF YOUR COUNTY TAXES AND YOUR COUNTY REVENUES, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER 77 TAXING AUTHORITIES THAT WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH TO COLLECT THEIR TAXES.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE 127 PROPOSAL WILL ALONE FOR NONAD VALOREM TAXES. WE ALSO SERVE FIVE EXECUTIVE BRANCHES OF SPACE GOVERNMENT, DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLE, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THE DEPARTMENT OF FLORIDA WILDLIFE AND FISH. IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THIS, WE ENCOURAGE LARGE FOR UPS, AT&T AND FED EX TO UTILIZE THEIR OFFICE TO HANDLE TAG AND TITLE REQUESTS FOR THEIR VEHICLE FLEETS. THIS HELPS US OFFSET AND TURN BACK MONEY FOR THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WE HAVE NOW ABOUT A DOZEN LARGE COMPANIES, FLEET COMPANIES THAT UTILIZE YOUR FACILITIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

SO EVERY TIME YOU SEE A FED EX OR A UPS TRUCK OR AT&T VEHICLE.

EVERY TIME THEY CHANGE AND BUY NEW STREAKS, THE TITLE TRANSFER GOES THROUGH YOUR COUNTY. ANY TIME THEY DO A RENEWAL BY THE THOUSANDS IT COMES THROUGH YOUR COUNTY.

I WANTED TO CALL THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION TOP TO SUMMARIZE IN PAST YEAR IF I TAKE THE LIBERTY TO SUMMARIZE A SUMMARY OF THE TRANSACTIONS THAT YOUR TAX COLLECTOR HANDLES.

LAST YEAR FOR TAGS AND TI TITLE $42 MILLION WAS FULLED THROUGH YOUR ST. JOHNS COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE EQUATES TO $424,451 TRANSACTIONS. THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO TOUCH EVERY ITEM THAT COMES THROUGH. OF THAT ALONE, 89,201 DRIVER'S LICENSES OR I.D. CARDS WERE ISSUED TO THE TUNE OF 3.63 MILLION. $262,000,000 WAS RECEIVED WITH CONCEALED WEAPONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE WHICH EQUATES TO 3114 TRANSACTIONS. 109,000 FOR HUNTING AND FISHING LICENSES EQUATE TO 3345 HUNTING AND FISHING TRANSACTIONS ALTHOUGH THE CITIZENS CAN DO THAT BY THEIR PHONE, BY THEIR INTERNET. THEY SECURE THOSE.

WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO COME IN.

YOU CAN TAKE BUSINESS AT HOME WITH ALL THE BUSINESS YOU CAN.

WITH BIRTH CERTIFICATES, WE COLLECTED FOR YOU 21,000 THAT EQUATES TO 188 BIRTH CERTIFICATES.

DUAL YOUR ATTENTION WHEN THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT CALLED THAT THE DRIVER'S AGENCY GOES TO THE FEDERAL I.D. ACT AND WE HAD TO FIND PROOF FROM YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE, ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, HOW MANY TIMES YOU WERE MARRIED IF YOU WERE FEMALE, ETC., AND THEN SHOW ALL THE PROOF, ALL THE DOCUMENTS SCANNED SENT TO TALLAHASSEE. WE WERE LOSING A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND GETTING CALLED A LOT OF VERY WONDERFUL NAMES BECAUSE WE HAD TO SEND PEOPLE OUT FOR THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

OUR COUNTY CHALLENGE. I CHALLENGED THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO SAY IF WE HAVE TO REQUIRE THIS AND WANT TO ISSUE THIS. NOW YOU CAN SEE IT BRINGS $21,000 INTO THE BUDGET SO WE CAN OFFSET YOUR BUDGET, THE AMOUNT YOU PAID TO KEEP US OPEN. THEN WE HAVE -- IF I CAN HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE. DO WE HAVE -- THERE WE GO.

664 MILLION WERE COLLECTED IN PROPERTY TAXES TO THE TUNE OF APPROXIMATELY 16 0,368 TRANSACTIONS.

461,000 FOR LOCAL BUSINESS TAXES.

AS I USED TO CALL THEM OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES WHEN FLORIDA STATUTE 205 HANDLED THEM AND WE WERE REQUIRED TO COLLECT.

NOW IT IS UP TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.

AND NOW THEY ARE CALLED BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS.

AND TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX, THE FIRST COUNTY IN THE STATE TO START COLLECTING LOCAL OPTION TAX LOCALLY.

THIS PAST YEAR WE COLLECTED $24 MILLION OF TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX FOR YOU. AND EQUATES TO $48,087 TO COLLECT TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX. BOTTOM LINE WE HAVE FOR YOUR TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE, FOUR OFFICES, APPROXIMATELY 70 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WE HANDLE 745,416 TRANSACTIONS THAT EQUATE

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SO JUST WANTED TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT I BELIEVE THE A EFFICIENCY IN THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE FAR ABOVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND NEXT TIME YOU SEE THE EMPLOYEE IN THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE THANK THEM BECAUSE OF THE EMPLOYEES AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE LEADER THAT WE CAN OPERATE AND TURN BACK TO YOU.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE LAST YEAR WITH YOUR INVESTMENT, WHAT YOU PAID THE TAX COLLECTOR IN COMMISSIONS TO THE TAX.

BECAUSE WE DON'T REQUEST YOU FOR ANYTHING.

WE ARE SIMPLY BY LAW, BY FEES AND COMMISSIONS.

LAST YEAR, WE RETURNED AND WE WERE STAND ALONE.

WE DID NOT COST THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ANYTHING BECAUSE OF OUR ENGINEERING AND AND CREATIVE WAYS TO OFFSET OUR BUDGET. AND IN ADDITION, IN 2023, I HOPE ALL OF YOU RECEIVED A LOVE LETTER FROM YOUR TAX COLLECTOR.

THE 2023 ST. JOHNS COUNTY TAX ROLL IS OPEN FOR COLLECTION.

THE TOTAL FOR THE 2023 TAX ROLL NOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS $792,655,432.18. AND IF ANY OF YOU RUN ACROSS IT ANY CONSTITUENTS AND THEY HAVE HOMESTEAD PROPERTY AND THEY TELL YOU THEY CANNOT PAY THEIR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY OR CANNOT PAY THEIR TAXES, PLEASE, I PLEA WITH YOU, HAVE THEM CALL THE TAX COLLECTOR PERSONALLY. DEN DEN.

RIGHT DOWN THE NUMBER 209- 280 BECAUSE THROUGHOUT STATE HOMESTEAD TAX DEFERRAL PROCESS AND PREVIOUS ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, QUESTION DEEM IT VERY SERIOUS WE DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO LOSE THEIR HOMESTEAD PROPERTY.

I ASSURE PEOPLE THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOES NOT WANT YOUR HOMESTEAD. WE WANT IS YOU HAPPY AND STAY IN IT. FORTUNATELY WHEN I WAS AT THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE, I HAVE NOT LOST ANY HOMESTEAD PROPERTY TO DELINQUENT TAX DEED. THEREFORE, DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR YOUR TAX CLESHTER? THEY CHARSZ CHAIR ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DEN DEN.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I HAVE A COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AND HAVE YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN MR. DEN DEN, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RESPOND. COMMISSIONER DEAN, DO YOU HAVE A

COMMENT AFTER THAT. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: YES, I DO.

I HAVE A COMMENT. FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW, IN MY HUM BILL OPINION, DEN DEN AND HIS COMES, ALL OF THE STAFF FOR ME PERSONALLY ARE THE MOST RESPONSIVE, GOOD NATURED, WELL-MANNERED STAFF I EVER SEEN EITHER PRIVATE OR PUBLIC OFFICES. IT IS AMAZING.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. I WISH I HAD HIS SECRET HOW HE DOES IT. BUT I GUESS HE HIRES GOOD PEOPLE. BUT IT IS AMAZING.

I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT. I ALWAYS HAVE TO SAY THAT WHEN HE COMES BEFORE US BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.

>>DENNIS HOLLINGSWORTH: THANK YOU.

IN. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WE WILL OPEN IT UP ARNTZ ARNOLD AT THIS TIME.

THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 1.

STATE YOUR NAME AGED DRESS AND THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND APPLY TOED BOARD'S RULE OF DECORUM. COMMENTS WILL BE ADDRESS TODAY BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT ADDRESSED TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL WERE SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR.

MEMBERS FROM THE AUDIENCE SHUT AVOID ANY APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. ANY SPEAK THEIR PRESENTS OVERHEAD MATERIAL, PRESENT THE MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.

THANK YOU. >> THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE

SURPLUS THAT WE HAVE -- >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MA'AM, BEFORE YOU START -- WE NEED YOUR NAME AND APRIL DRESS AND SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE TO CAPTURE IT FOR THE RECORD.

>> SUSAN FARRIS. I HAVE THREE PROPERTIES IN TOWN.

ONE IS A VACATION RENTAL. AND I JUST NOTICE THAT YOU DIDN'T TAKE DOWN THE RILL VILLAGE RATE.

AND I KNOW THAT VACATION RENTALS IN ST. AUGUSTINE HAS GONE UP 23%. PLUS WE ARE SELLING HOMES AT MEYER PRICES. WHY HAVEN'T THAT BEEN REFLECTED

IN LOWER TAX RATES? >> YOUR TAX COLLECTOR COLLECT THE TAXES. WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ASSESSMENTS, THE EXEMPTIONS OR THE MILLAGES.

THE BOARD CAN SET THE MILLAGE FOR VERY HEALTH, ETC.

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YOU HAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD. YOU HAVE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATIONAL. I JUST TOLD YOU ARE SHARED WITH THE BOARD. WHICH HAVE 77 TAXING AUTHORITIES. SO WHEN YOU GET YOUR TRIM NOTICE NEXT YEAR, YOUR PROPOSAL, BE VERY ASTUTE AND WATCH FOR THE MEETINGS AND GO AND QUESTION EVERY TAXING AUTHORITY THAT HAS THE RIGHT TO LEVEL A MILLAGE AGAINST YOUR ASSESSMENT.

>> SEEMS LIKE WITH ALL THE EXTRA REVENUE, WE WOULD BE GETTING A

LITTLE BIT. >> I AGREE -- YES, MA'AM, I AGREE. IT SEEMS LIKE IT, UNLESS IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS AND THE PROCESS.

WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT? I EVEN HAVE STAFF MEMBERS WHO SAY YOU ARE GIVING BACK $8 MILLION.

WHY CAN'T YOU PAY US MORE MONEY. BUT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

>> I CALLED THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS AND I WANT TO GIVE A COMPLIMENT. THEY ARE THE BEST.

VERY GOOD JOB. I JUST ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION, AND HE BASICALLY SAID WHAT YOU SAID, THEIR YOU NEED TO GO TO THE MEETING AND TO ASK EVERY TAX AUTHORITY.

>>DENNIS HOLLINGSWORTH: ABSOLUTELY.

BUT WHEN YOU GET THAT TRIM NOTICE, PLEASE CALL KNEE AND COME IN AND LET'S SIT DOWN AND I WILL GO OVER WITH YOU AND WHEN YOU DISAGREE, I WILL SAY THIS IS THE NUMBER.

THIS IS THE TIME. YOU GO GET THEM.

OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT, THANKS, APPRECIATE I IT.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS PAUL MAYO.

YOUR WEB SITE SAYS THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. CONGRATULATIONS.

ACCORDING THE CENSUS BUREAU, BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020, YOU ADDED OVER 100,000. THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IS, THANK YOU FOR CUTTING ALL THE TREES DOWN.

YOU MADE THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER IF LAST WEEK OF DEFORESTATION, CLEAR CUTTING OF 40% OF THE COUNTY TEN YEARS.

FRONT PAGE. SO AT THE NET RATE IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, ANOTHER 40%, THERE WILL ONLY BE 20% OF THE TREES LEFT IN THE COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ALL RIGHT, BACK TO THE BOARD.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: MOTION TO APPROVED THE TOTAL EARNED UNUSED AND MONEY COLLECTED FOR THE

2022-2023 TAX YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: SECOND.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MOTION AND A SECOND.

[2. Approval and Recognition of FIND Grant Project Agreement for Genovar Land Acquisition]

THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, MR. DENNIS HOLLINGSWORTH FOR SHARING ALL THE GREAT INFORMATION.

AND ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, RYAN KANE. >>RYAN KANE: IT RYAN KANE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

TODAY I WILL GIVE AN UPDATE AND GIVE SUGGESTION FOR STAFF TO GO INTO AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN A FINE GRANT AGREEMENT.

THIS IS INVOLVING THE SAN SEBASTIAN WATERWAY ACCESS.

THIS WAS THE PARTIAL PURCHASED IN THE GENOVAR FAMILY APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO ON THE NORTH SIDE -- THE 312 EXCHANGE BEHIND HOBBY LOBBY AREA THERE. A QUICK OVERVIEW WHAT THE PRESENTATION WILL BE. TODAY IS A HISTORY OF THE SITE.

RECOGNITION OF FUNDS AND WE USE TO ACQUIRE THE PARCEL AND FUTURE ACTIONS AND FUTURE PLANS FOR THE SITE.

AGAIN ON THE REMINDER, THE LAND ACQUISITION, THAT WAS DIRECTED THROUGH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT AVENUES AND COUNTY DOCUMENTATION INCLUDING THE MASTER PLAN THAT IDENTIFIED WATERWAY ACCESS AS PRIORITY. AND THIS BOARD APPROVED A RESOLUTION IN AUGUST OF 2022 TO PURCHASE THE -- THE GENOVAR PARCEL $17 NOW, 500 MILLION INCLUDING CLOSING COSTS.

FUNDING SOURCES ARE IDENTIFIED THERE.

THE FUNDING SOURCES DO -- DO UTILIZE PARTNERS WITHIN THERE AS WELL. AND TWO PARTNERS THAT WE WILL RECOGNIZE TODAY. AND THE FIRST PARTNER ALL THIS SEE LISTED UP THERE PORT AND WATERWAY CONTRIBUTE $1.5 MILLION TO THAT. AND WE WILL START THE RECOGNITION WITH FLORIDA NAVIGATION DISTRICT FOR THEIR IMREWOMEN BURRSMENT FOR THE PURCHASE.

THE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH DISTRICT.

THEY SUPPORT WATERWAY ACCESS THROUGHOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF THIS BOARD AND COMMISSIONER DEAN, IN PARTICULAR, WHO WENT OUT AND PRESENT AND TO THE BOARD, THEY VOTED TO APPOINT $1.5 MILLION TO THE LAND ACQUISITION AND WE HAVE TODAY WITH US AND WE WILL BRING FORWARD SHORTLY COMMISSIONER MATT BROWN FROM THE PORT AND WATERWAY DISTRICT TO RECOGNIZE THEIR EFFORTS AND PARTNERSHIP IN THAT AS WELL.

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WITH HIS GUIDANCE, WE DID HIS SUPPORT THROUGH THE PROCESS RECOGNIZED AND AWARDED $1,000,055 FOR LAND ACQUISITION AT THE SAN SEBASTIAN PROPERTY. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER BLOW SAND COMMISSIONER BROWN. AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE NEXT STEPS FROM HERE. COMMISS

COMMISSIONERS. >> I AM MATT BROWN, SHARE OF THE ST. AUGUSTINE AND BEACH DISTRICT.

I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY STAFF FOR THE FORESIGHT AND WHEREWITHAL TO SHARP THIS PARCEL UP WHEN WE DID. I DON'T THINK WE WILL FIND ANY MORE LIKE THIS IN THE COUNTY AGAIN.

HISTORIC AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON IT.

THE OTHER THING I QUICKLY WANT TO SAY HOW EXCITING THE PORT DISTRICT WAS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS PROJECT FOR ACQUISITION AND HOW EXCITE WE ARE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY GOING FORWARD AS THE PROJECT MOVES THROUGH DESIGN AND BUILDING PHASES.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN AND THANKS FOR PARTNERING WITH US ON THIS.

>> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH MATT, A FANTASTIC PROJECT.

IT IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY.

I WANT TO SALUTE THIS BOARD AND COUNTY STAFF FOR BEING ABLE TO REALLY MOVE QUICKLY TO SECURE THIS PROPERTY.

AS YOU KNOW A GORGEOUS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WOULD HAVE MADE A GREAT LOCATION FOR CONDOMINIUMS OR MULTIFAMILY.

BUT I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE IT THE WAY IT IS TODAY AND IT WILL MAKE A GREAT REGIONAL BOAT RAMP AND PARK.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE FINE WORKS WITH THE PORT DISTRICT ON A LOT OF PROJECTS, PRIMARILY WITH THE CITY CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. THEY ARE A GREAT PARTNER AND TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY FOR IMPROVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS FOR WATERWAYS. JUST REAL QUICKLY, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD THERE ARE BEFORE, THE IN NAVIGATION DISTRICT IS A STATE AGENCY AND WE MAINTAIN THE WATER IF COASTAL WTH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

BUT THE LEGISLATURE ALSO -- WHICH IS WHAT CREATED US -- INSTRUCTED US TO BASICALLY THEY SAID WHAT IS THE POINT OF TAXING FLORIDA TAXPAYERS TO MAINTAIN THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY IF THE PUBLIC CAN'T ACCESS IT. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THIS GRANT PROGRAM TO HELP LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LIKE YOURSELF IMPROVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS. HAND THIS IS AN EXCELLENT

EXAMPLE OF THAT PROCESS. >> JUST QUICKLY ON THE UPDATE ON THE SITE AND FUTURE PLANS OF THE SITE JUST TO BRING THE BOARD UP TO SPEED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THE COMMUNITY UP TO SPEED ON THE COMMUNITY ON THAT. ONE IS CURRENTLY IN THE EXISTING BUDGET. PARKS AND RECREATION AND IF SILT MAINTENANCE CELEBRATED THE HOUSE ON THE SITE AND PUT STAFF ON THE BUILDING TO HAVE STAFF ON-SITE HAVE PRESENCE AT THE PARK.

AND KEEP AN EYE ON IT. THAT IS CLOSE TO COMPLETION THERE. ADDI ADDITIONALLY, THE BOARD APPROVED $1 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR '24 FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, START OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY. SOME OF THE ACTIONS -- THE THAT THE INTERNAL STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT FOR DOING RIGHT NOW IS STARTING A TRAFFIC STUDY. SPA COMPONENT AND SOMEHOW TO GET THE PUBLIC IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY WITH THE CONGESTION ON US 1 AND THE POTENTIAL FOR EGRESS AND INGRESS FOR 312.

DOESN'T TAKE THE PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR TO HAVE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. AND THE EXISTING DOCK.

MASTER PLAN FOR FEASIBILITY AND THE CONCEPT OF THE SITE.

SMALL-SCALE CONSTRUCTION SITE CLEANUPS, IS THIS REPAIRS TO THE DOCK AS WELL AT THE SITE. FUTURE ACTIONS AS MR. TEKLER MINUTED IN HIS LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.

THANKS TO DIRECTION FROM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JOY ANDREWS.

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IS IN ACTION FOR THE COUNTY TO BE PURSUING THAT.

IN ADDITIONAL, WE ARE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, TO DESIGN, MASTER PLAN AND PLANNING FOR PHASE FROM DUNKS APPROACH 2025-2027.

WE WOULD NEED FOR THIS ITEM -- SOME ACTION.

SO WE WOULD NEED IT SHALL A MOTION NEEDED FOR ADMINISTRATION, FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR STAFF TO FIND THE FINE GRANT PROJECT, NUMBER SJ 23-217 FOR THE GENOWA LAND ACQUISITION. ACTION FROM THE BOARD IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO TODAY. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT.

WE WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO RYAN, 2025-2027 WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION.

WHEN IT DO YOU SEE IT BEING AVAILABLE FOR RECREATIONAL USE?

>> FUNDING IS A MAJOR QUESTION WITHIN HERE.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING THE STATE APPROPRIATION THAT WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR DESIGN ELEMENTS OF THAT AND COST ESTIMATES THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT FOR THE COST ESTIMATES AND WILL BE PURSUING THE FUNDING FROM THERE. SO THE MAJOR COMPONENT WOULD BE APPROVAL OF FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION WHEN THAT COMES TOWN TIME. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT WILL BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO ANSWER TIME WHEN THE PUBLIC WILL GET ACCESS. THANK YOU, RYAN.

THANK YOU FOR WITH OUR WORK AT PORTLAND WATERWAY.

I KNOW WATERWAY ACCESS IS A BIG -- BIG CONCERN IN MY AREA.

AND HAVING THE REGIONAL BOAT RAMP.

YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS PROJECT. COMMISSIONER DEAN, YOUR WORK WITH THIS AND COMMIS COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

THIS WAS A BIG ISSUE FOR HIM. HE REFERRED TO HIM AS THE BOAT AND WATERWAY COMMISSIONER. SO IN REALLY BIG.

THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR ALL YOUR WORK WITH THIS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: ROY JUST TOUCHED ON IT BUT I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT PA PAUL WALDRON, COMMIS COMMISSIONER WALDRON WAS THE STRONGEST ADVOCATE AND COMMITMENT. HE HAD A REAL COMMITMENT.

HE LOVED TO FISH AND ALL HIS FISHING BUDDIES.

GREAT GUY. THAT SAID, I ALSO -- CARL, HOW MANY FINE MEMBERS ARE THERE ALONG THE INTERCOASTAL, ONE FROM

EACH COUNTY. >> ONE FROM EACH COUNTY.

FROM DISTRICT MIAMI-DADE TO NASSAU.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW WHO MAY NOT KNOW.

CARL, HOW LONG HAVE YOU SERVED ST. JOHNS COUNTY ON FINE BOARD SUPERVISE THAT IS KIND OF A SCARY QUESTION, SINCE GOVERNOR CHARLIECRIST. YOU FACTOR THAT?

ABOUT 2000. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: CARL AND I GO BACK IN FLORIDA HISTORY. AGAIN, THERE ARE 12 MEMBERS.

ONE REPRESENTING EACH COUNTY ALONG THE INTERCOASTAL FROM NASSAU TO MONROE, I GUESS. POINT BEING HAVE CARL HAS DONE A MARVELOUS JOBBED A VOTE SKATING ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

NOT THE FIRST GRANT PROGRAM HE BROUGHT US TO AND HE IS COMMENDED FOR SERVING US AS WELL.

>> IF I CAN MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN, THE REALITY IS THAT COMMISSIONER WALDRON HAD MY CELL PHONE.

AND HE MADE SURE I WAS ALWAYS WORKING TO BRING YOUR TAX DOLLARS BACK TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

SINCE MR. HOLLINGSWORTH BROUGHT IT UP, I THINK HE MENTIONED FINE. I DO WANT TO SAY WE HAVE NOT RAISED OUR MINIMUM MANAGE. WE HAVE MAINTAINED AND NOT RAISED OUR MILLAGE FOR, EVERYBODY, 26 YEARS AND THIS YEAR. WE CHOSE OUR ROLL BACK MILLAGE.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO TRY TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.

WE HAVE A SMALL STAFF. I THINK LESS THAN 2% OF OUR TOTAL OUTLAY. BUT THE MAIN THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THESE GRANT DOLLARS BASICALLY.

YOUR TAX DOLLARS COLLECTED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE BRING THOSE DOLLARS BACK.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T -- IF YOU DON'T ASK FOR THE MONEY THROUGH GRANTS, THE YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: THANKS,

CARL. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE WILL HEAR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.

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GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING CLAY MURPHY.

KINGS ROAD SOUTH. THANK YOU FOR THIS HARD WORK ON THIS PROJECT. THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. THANKS TO THE BOARD FOR THIS LARD WORK. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE US TO -- INTO THE FUTURE FOR THE COMMON MAN.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE FROM EUROPE THINK -- SAY AND COME FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHEN THEY COME TO AMERICA, BOY, LOOK AT ALL THE BOATS IN PEOPLE'S YARDS.

A LOT OF BOATING. A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS 37.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. ONE OF THE DISCUSSION I HAD WITH MY FRIEND PAUL WALDRON OVER THE YEARS WAS PARKING.

I AM GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT BOAT PARKING AND BOAT STWRALER PARKING FOR THIS AS A PRIORITY.

I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES FOR BOAT RAMPS ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THE STATE. BOAT PARKING.

WHERE THEY WILL PARK. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO YOU CONSIDER PART OF MAKING THIS A WORLD-CLASS BOAT RAMP.

GOING TO BE ACCESS TO PARKING NOR THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU MR. MURPHY.

ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I WANT TO SAY HOW THIS GRATEFUL TO COMMISSIONER BROWN AND COMMISSIONER BI-LO BLOW. IT WAS ENVISIONED AS A LUXURY APARTMENT COMPLEX GREAT FOR THE FOLKS WHO LIVED IN THERE WOULD HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VIEW, BUT MUCH MORE PUBLIC BENEFIT USING THIS WAY. EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THOSE.AS COMMISSIONER BUT A RESIDENT TO SEE IT THIS VISION COME TO LIFE.

COMMISSIONER GENE DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WOULD

LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: PLEASE DO.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: MAKE MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023 --

>> 45 1. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: APPROVING THE TERMS, YOU CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE FLORIDA NAVIGATION DISTRICT AND ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT ON BEHALF

OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SECOND

ARNTZ ARNOLD SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

PASSES 5HORN 0. >> IF I CAN ASK THE CHAIR TO COME WITH A PHOTO FOR THE CHECK PRESENTATION WITH A FEW ZEROES ON IT. THANK YOU, SIR.

[3. Public Hearing * REZ 2023-10 135 Nix Boat Yard]

. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THAT CONCLUDES AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. WE WILL MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 WHICH IS A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM.

I WILL WAIT FOR COMMISSIONER JOSEPH TO COME BACK.

WE ALL HAVE TO DO OUR EX-PARTE DISCLOSURES BEFORE WE CAN BEGIN HEARING THIS ITEM. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NO EX-PARTE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NO. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I HAVE NO

RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NONE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YES, SIR,

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS GARY DAVENPORT.

I LIVE AT 212 SHADOW WOOD. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY LOCATED ON 135 NICK'S BOAT YARD ROAD.

MR. TERRY DILLINGER WITH FISH BITES WITH IS WITH ME AS WELL.

APPROXIMATELY .59 ACRES AND OPEN RURAL.

AND WE ARE ASKING IT TO BE REZONED TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE

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THE GRAY AREA WILL GET TO THAT SIDE.

BUT BEHIND IT IS -- IT USED TO BE SONNI'S EMPLOYEE KATED BEHIND IT WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

BANKS, HOME DEPOT IS BEHIND IT. THE ADJACENT CITY ZONING WITH THE GRAY AREA. THE HOME DEPOT, CHICK-FIL-A AREA. AND THEN THE RED TO THE NORTH IS COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS MOSTLY STRIP TYPE COMMERCIAL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS AREA IS MIXED USE.

THIS IS THE COUNTY'S FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE CITY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AROUND IT IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AROUND IT. SO AS I SAID, THE PROPERTY IS OPEN RURAL. THE REASON IT IS OPEN RURAL BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A DAY CARE FOR A LONG TIME AND A DAY CARE BEFORE THE ZONING RESTRICTIONS WERE THERE.

SO BASICALLY GRANDFATHERED IN AS A DAY CARE.

THAT DAY CARE WAS A TENANT OF A LARGE COMMERCIAL LANDOWNER.

THE DAY CARE LEFT. AND CLOSED OFF BUSINESS.

AND THE PROPERTY WAS SUBSEQUENTLY SOLD AND NOW OWNED BY FISH FISH BITES. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A SMALL OPEN RURAL PARCEL SURROUNDED ENTIRELY BY A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES AND REALLY NO VIABLE COMMERCIAL USE THAT YOU CAN DO IN OPEN RURAL. WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A COMMERCIAL. AND -- SO THEN WE COME TOMORROW FISH BITES. ANYBODY -- I WILL GET TO A SLIDE OF FISH BITES IN A LITTLE BIT. A LOCAL COMPANY.

DOWN THE STREET. THEY HAVE A PRESENCE IN THE COUNTY AND THEY TWHOONT BUY IT TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO MOVE THE WHOLE OPERATIONS OUT OF THE AREA. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SURVEY, THERE IS AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE.

EXISTING PARKING THERE. AND LARGE BUILDING ON BE THIS PARCEL. AND FOR NOW, IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THIS ORIENTATION BUT IN THE FUTURE THEY WANT TO EXPAND TO MAKE IT MANUFACTURING. IT IS LIGHT MANUFACTURING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN ASK MR. DILL LING GER. AS THEY EXPANDED, IF THEY DO WE WILL GO IN AND START DOING BUFFERS AND UPGRADES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FISH BITES. I WON'T BORE YOU BY READING IN TO ALL YOU HAVE YOU. BUT SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH DR. CARR. HE WORKED WITH UF.

DID RESEARCH WITH FISHING AND I THINK THERE DEAN -- COMMISSIONER DEAN PROBABLY KNOWS DR. CARR. HE BASICALLY DEVELOPED THIS TECHNOLOGY FOR ARTIFICIAL BAITS. HIS FAMILY SOUGHT POTENTIAL OF THE RETAIL SIDE OF IT AND CREATED FISH BITES AND A LOCAL COMPANY GROWN BY HIS FAMILY. SO BASICALLY, THE CONDITIONS AS YOU CAN SEE THIS YOUR PACKAGE WOULD LIMIT THIS -- USES IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, SLIGHT MANUFACTURING.

AND ASSOCIATED IF STORES, OFFICE, STORAGE.

THAT TYPE OF STUFF. THE PZA RECOMMENDED APPROVAL 5-0. SO I'M HERE AND AVAILABLE AS WELL AS MR. DILL LING GER OF ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS BUSINESS HAND THIS REZONING. IF.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: AS THE MANUFACTURING RAMPS UP IN THE FUTURE AFFECTING THE WATER IN THE AREA OR REFUSE?

>> NO, COMMISSIONER, IT WON'T. ALL CONTAINED IN THE BUILDING.

LIGHT MANUFACTURING THE ONLY CATEGORY.

IF YOU HAVE SPECIFICS HOW HIS OPERATION WORKS, I WILL BE GLAD TO LET HIM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FOR MR. SDAVENPORT? MADAM VICE-CHAIR, WE WILL HEAR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

GOOD MORNING, AGAIN. >> GOOD MORNING.

BJ KALALY, CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

READING THE AGENDA AND I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE BACK-UP STUFF.

THIS GENTLEMAN WAS DOING BUSINESS OFF OF SOUTH DIXIE A FEW YEARS AGO AND I THOUGHT HE MOVED OVER TO -- TO THE NEXT BOAT YARD, THAT STREET. AND WHY IS THIS DAY CARE IS.

AND IN THE AGENDA, IT SAYS THAT THEY MADE AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION TO DO 20/B BUFFER TO BE INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING DAY CARE BUILDING AND MADE SURE THAT IS PART OF THE AGENDA AND THE

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AND THEY HAVE ALL THIS PARKING IN THE BACK.

AS THEY ARE DOING THEIR MANUFACTURER AND ARE THEY GOING TO ALLOW BOATERS IN THERE AND CHARGE THEM TO PARK? DEVELOPMENT ON THE GENOVAR LAND. BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME OVER 312 HEADED WEST. THERE WAS FREES, THE GENOVAR PROPERTY. I AM LOOKING TO SEE BECAUSE OTHER PLACES AN NIXED IN WHEN EVILS SHOWINGTH PICTURE SITE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT WHAT IS THERE NOW R BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.

AND THEY EXTENDED -- AND GOING TO THE CITY ABOUT MORE ANNEXATION. A LOT GOING ON THERE AND A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY WH WHERE GENOVAR'S PROPERTY AND I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THAT PARKING LOT WAS GOING TO BE USED AND WILL THEY MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

NOT JUST WHEN THEY ARE DOING THEIR MANUFACTURING OF THE LURES AND THINGS. I WANTED THAT OUT THERE SO MAYBE YOU CALL ANSWER ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

AND REAL QUICK MR. WHITEHURST. I GOT THE ANSWER I WANTED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BYE. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MISS KALALY. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MR.

DAVENPORT, ANY RESPONSE? >> YES, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.

THE 20-B BUFFER IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE AND WE AGREED TO THAT. THE -- THE BUFFER WILL BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. AND THE PARKING IS PRIVATE, AND WILL BE PRIVATE FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE FACILITY.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT I WOULD SAY BASED ON THE LAST ITEM, EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THAT PAUL WAALDRON'S PRIMARY INTEREST IS PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE WATERWAY. THAT WAS HIS THING.

I DON'T OWN A BOAT, DON'T GO BOATING OR FISHING.

MY TO ACQUIRE GENOVAR FOR CONSERVATION AND THIS BEAUTIFUL CANOPY. WE HAVE SEEN IT AND BEEN THERE FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING AND ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING HE CAN AS ONE COMMISSIONER TO PRESERVE BEAUTY.

AS A SIDE COMMENT. SO WITH THAT SAID, I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023

-- >> 49.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: APPROVING REZONING 2023-10, NIX BOAT YARD FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AND FIVE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE

STAFF REPORT. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: SECOND.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DEAN.

AND A SECOND BY COMMI COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PROPOSED

[4. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2023-11 - SR 207 Lot 12 and 14]

YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VERY GOOD.

ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? PLEASE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS.

TAKE US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 34 WHICH IS AGAIN QUASI JUDICIAL.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, EX-PARTE. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO

MEANING. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NONE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: NO RECORDED ANY MEETINGS.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I HAD NO MEETINGS. I DID RECEIVE AN E-MAIL THIS

MORNING THOUGH AT MY DESK. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: IF I RECEIVED THAT E-MAIL, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.

SIR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

I AM CHRIS REESE, THE DIRECTOR OF LAND DEVELOPMENT FOR COLLIER HOMES. I AM PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF JASON STANCIL. TO GET STARTED.

IF COLLIER HOMES OWNS TWO LOTS OF RECORDS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STATE ROAD 207 ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF FROM THE I-95 AND 207 INTERCHANGE. THIS IS LIKE CLOSE-UP AERIAL SHOWING THE LOT AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

SO WHEN -- WHEN WE STARTED PLANNING TO DESIGN LOTS AND BUILD HOMES. WE STARTED ENCOUNTERING A COUPLE OF DIFFICULTIES WITH THE D.O.T. WE STARTED INITIALLY WANTING TWO INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS. ONE FOR LOT 12 AND ONE FOR LOT 14. WORKING WITH THE D.O.T., FOUND OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL NOT ALLOW A DRIVEWAY TO CONNECT TO A TURN LANE, WHICH YOU WILL SEE IS JUST NORTH OF LOT 14.

AND -- AND LOT 12, WE HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A NONTYPICAL DRIVEWAY. IT IS NOT ATTACHING AT 90

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THEY APPROVED IT AND WITH PERMIT IN HAND.

AFTER WE DID THAT, WE GOT WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY STAFF AND THEY WERE GREAT TO WORK WITH. AND DETERMINED THAT THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS WAS TO DO A SHARED ACCESS DRIVE SO BOTH HOMES CAN UTILIZE THAT DRIVEWAY. IT MEETS ALL OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY REQUIREMENTS. 30-FOOT INTO EASEMENT.

20-FOOT PAVEMENT. MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOESN'T ANY RESPONSIBILITY WITH ANY OF THIS.

IN REGARDS TO LOT CONSTRUCTION, IT WILL ALL BE WITHIN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WE WILL COORDINATE DRAINAGE WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY STAFF.

THERE -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME POSITIVITIES WE WANT TO POINT OUT. IT WON'T IMPACT ANY CONGESTION ON 2007. THE BIG ONE TO ME IS THE CARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE EXITING THE TWO LOTS ARE GOING TO GO OUT MADE FIRST. THEY WON'T BE BACKING OFF ON THE 207 AND BIG FOR SAFETY AND OBVIOUSLY MINOR THINGS LIKE THE POST OFFICE WILL NOT HAVE TO STOP TWICE IF THEY WERE TWO DRIVEWAYS. TRASH WON'T HAVE TO STOP TWICE.

WE THINK IT IS A GREAT SOLUTION. STAFF SUPPORT IT IS.

AND BARRING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DID RECEIVE THIS MORNING.

E-MAIL FROM SCOTT HALL. WHERE IS HIS PROPERTY ON HERE?

>> EXCUSE ME? >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SCOTT HALL'S PROPERTY, 3320 NINTH STREET.

HE IS OPPOSED TO IT UNLESS IT DOESN'T TOUCH HIS PROPERTY.

>> I THINK HIS -- LET ME GO BACK.

I THINK HIS LOT IS BEHIND OUR LOT.

SO ANYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING ON OUR LOTS WILL NOT AFFECT HIS LOT

AT ALL. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: PERFECT.

THANK YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

GOOD MORNING. >> HEY, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, ALL REBECCA WISEMAN.

I OWN THE ADJOINING LOTS TO THESE LOTS.

MY CONCERN -- WELL, 4205 MAIN STREET IS MY ADDRESS.

IT EXTENDS TO THE THE TWO LOTS NEXT TO THIS GENTLEMAN.

MY CONCERN IS THAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SIDEWALK? ONCE THEY PUT IN THIS DRIVEWAY? AND THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE GOING, EVEN THOUGH IT IS 45, 65 AND 70 MILES PER HOUR TO TURN INTO THIS ACCESS. AND THE WAY IT AND THAT HE -- ON THE DIAGRAM THAT IT WOULD BE TO COMING OUT AT AN ANGLE.

THE ANGLE THAT WAS GOING -- NORTHWEST INSTEAD OF NORTHEAST WHERE BOTH PROPERTIES COULD HAVE VISIBLE ACCESS TO 207.

SO I OPPOSE IT. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU,

MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: PLEASE. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: PLEASE COME DO DOWN.

>> HI, YES. SUSAN, AGAIN.

MY FATHER OWNS THE PROPERTY -- THE HOUSE -- WELL, I NOW OWN IT.

HE PASSED UNFORTUNATELY. 3316.

SO I AM DIRECTLY RIGHTS BEHIND THE -- WOULD THAT BE LOT NUMBER 14? I DIDN'T BRING MY DIAGRAM WITH ME. 12 AND 14.

THE 14 WOULD BE THE ONE THAT HAS THE HOUSE IN FRONT OF IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE US IN FRONT OF IT? THAT IS MY PROPERTY, 3369 STREET BEHIND LOT 14 THAT YOU AR GOING TO BUILD ON? OKAY, RIGHT.

MY FATHER -- WELL, I CAN'T GET OVER -- IT IS STILL MY DAD'S HOUSE EVEN THOUGH HE PASSED. I HAVE A SEPTIC TANK IN THE BACK YARD AND THAT IS THE CONCERN OR WHATEVER.

ALSO, I WON'T SEE THE EASEMENT AND ONCE IT IS SET BACK, HOW FAR DO THEY HAVE TO SET BACK AGAINST THE BACK OF MY HOUSE.

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THEIR HOUSE. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: MA'AM, HE WILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.

>> OKAY. AND THE SEPTIC TANK AND THE DRAIN PAGE, LIKE SHE SAID. SHE HAS THAT PROBLEM WITH DRAINAGE TOO FROM THE NEW HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT.

SO I WILL COMMENT ON HER THE WATER IS COMING ON HER PROPERTY HAND THIS IS MY CONCERN TOO BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A BUILDUP FOR THESE TWO NEW HOUSE WRANSD IS THE WATER GOING TO GO? AND THE LAST THING IS THE SAFETY CONC CONCERN. THE MILEAGE CAN CAN BE 75 TO 70 DEPENDING ON IS DRIVING AND ONLY HAVE THAT TOO SHORT OF A THING TO GET IN THERE, IT SEEMS KIND OF -- IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COMING 70 MILES BEHIND YOU AND YOU TURN ON YOUR BLINKER LIKE -- YOU KNOW, LITTLE BIT BEFORE. YOU GET REAR-ENDED.

IT COULD BE A VERY, VERY BAD ACCESS AND YOU ARE SAYING THEY HAVE TO COME BACK ON TO THE 90-DEGREE ANGLE TO GET OUT OF THE ONE AND 50, 60, 70 MILES PER HOUR.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS QUITE HAZARDOUS TO ME.

VERY HAS DOES. THAT IS A BIG CONCERN AND THE DRAINAGE. THANK YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4? SEEING NONE. CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: SIR, YOUR RESPONSE.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THERE WILL BE ACCESS TO THE SIDEWALK.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEVER THAT IN ANY WAY.

THE ANGLE OF THE DRIVEWAY UNFORTUNATELY IS LOCKED DUE TO THE STORMWATER STRUCTURE THAT I POINTED OUT.

I THINK DUE TO THAT ANGLE, IT WILL ASSIST INTO TURNING INTO THE DRIVE, BECAUSE THE ANGLE IS PITCHED TOWARD THE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC DUE TO THE SPEEDS. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH CLEARANCE SHEET APPROVAL FOR ALL OF THIS. LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WILL COMPLY WITH THE CODE -- THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WORK WITH STAFF ON DRAINAGE TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE WATER ON THE LOTS STAY ON OUR LOTS AND DRAIN TO 207.

I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING IF THERE IS SOMETHING I MISSED,

LET ME KNOW. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU.

I THINK COMMISSIONER DEAN MAY HAVE A QUESTION?

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I DIDN'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT -- DO YOU KNOW? MIKE, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?

IF YOU CAN, GO AHEAD. >> I DON'T HAVE THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE WILL MEET ALL YOUR SETBACKS THAT --

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE SETBACK.

LET MIKE OR SOMEONE ADDRESS THAT IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YES, SIR. I HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS.

>> TOM, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO ZOOM IN AND I APPRECIATE IT AND WE CAN SHOW THE CHART. RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY -- MIKE ROBINSON GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

RESIDENTIAL-3 THE SETBACKS ARE 25, 8 AND, A 10-FOOT REAR SETBACK. I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. AND I MIGHT ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THIS. THIS IS A PLATTED LOT OF RECORD.

SO THEY DO -- THEY HAVE BY RIGHT.

THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PUT IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME HERE BUT OF COURSE AS THAT GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THEY DO -- ERIC CLARK IS OUR ENGINEER AND THEY REVIEW FOR DRAINAGE TO MAKE SURE IT COMPLIES WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AS WELL AS SAFETY CONCERNS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS OUT AND THEY HAVE A PERMIT FROM D.O.T. IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A DETERMINATION.

THANK YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MR. CLARK, TALK MORE OF THE DRAINAGE PLAN SO LAYMEN LIKE MYSELF WILL KNOW

HOW THAT HAPPENS. >>ERIC CLARK: ERIC CLARK, ENGINEER. THESE SITES -- IF YOU CAN -- YES. THESE SITES WILL DRAIN FORWARD.

YOU CAN SEE THE AIR ROWS INDICATED.

WE LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW THE SITES WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. HOW MUCH FILL.

BUT WE ALSO GOT TO SEE HOW IT TIES IN WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND MAKE SURE IT IS NOT BLOCKING DRAINAGE TO PROPERTIES WHERE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO.

DRAIN 07. DIFFERENT WAYS WE WILL GET THERE WITH IT. IT WILL BE PART OF LOOKING AT THE CLEARANCE SHEET REVIEW FOR THE DRAINAGE, AS WELL AS ON THE -- ON-SITE. SOME OF THE BUILDERS ROAR THEY HAVE US COME OUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION AND A FINAL LOT GRADE INSPECTION BEFORE THEY CAN GET C.O. TO MEET ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR DRAINAGE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE

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SORRY, MA'AM, WE CAN NOT ALLOW ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS AND I WILL BE

HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: REAL QUICK, WHY WAS NOT BUILT OUT IN THE AREA WHEN THE OTHER HOUSES WERE BUILT. A CURIOSITY QUESTION?

>> I AM NOT SURE, COMMISSIONER YO SELF.

IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR AT THAT WHILE.

THE EXPANSION OF -- WIDENING OF 207 RIGHT THERE, COMPLICATES THOSE ITEMS BUT THOSE. LOTS OF RECORD THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND. THEY HAVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO IT. SO I AM NOT SURE WHY THEY WEREN'T BUILT OUT. TIMING OR PRICE WISE FOR THE

MARKET. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? IF.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR PRESENTING AND FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THESE -- THESE CONCERNS THAT THE FOLKS HAD.

I WILL OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE STATE ROAD 207, LOT 12 AND 14, REQUEST FOR NONZONING VARIANCE 6.201.B.3 AND 6.0407-B.1 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR USE OF A EASEMENT OF A PLATTED SUBDIVISION BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACTS AND SUBJECT IN THE FOUR CONDITIONS AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

[5. First Reading of Proposed Amendments to St. Johns County Ordinance 2007-19, St. Johns County Beach Code]

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALAIMO AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

THANK YOU. SO WE WILL MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. MR. KANE, WELCOME BACK.

>>RYAN KANE: THANK YOU, RYAN KANE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. RECENTLY AT COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING, COMMISSIONER ALAIMO REQUESTED AND GOT BOARD SUPPORT FOR STAFF TO REVIEW THE BEACH CODE ORDINANCE AND THE PARK ORDINANCE FOR POTENTIAL CHANGES FOR ISSUES THAT HAVE COME WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND IF THE FIRST READING OF AMENDMENTS. THE COUNTY STAFF WORKED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OCA TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THESE CHANGES.

SMALL CHANGES TO THE BEACH CODE AT THIS PINT IN TIME TO MANAGE SOME OF THE COMPONENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SAFETYWISE CONCERN FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BEACH OPERATIONS.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION TO SEEK THE BEACH ACCESS OF USE OF ELECTRIC BIKES, DRONES AND MOTOR VEHICLES ON ST.

JOHNS COUNTY COUNTY PEACHES. IN CONJUNCTION WITH DIRECTIVES AND COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT THESE AMENDMENTS WILL PROVIDE BETTER SAFETY AND HEALTH MEASURES TO THE VISITORS THAT RECOGNIZE CREATE ON ST.

JOHNS COUNTY COUNTY BEACHES. DEFINITIONS ARE FOR THE AMENDMENT CHANGES. A DRONE.

A DRONE IS DEFINED AS AN AIRCRAFT WITHOUT THE DIRECT HUMAN INTERVENTION FROM WITHIN THE AIRCRAFT.

ELECTRIC BIKES, E-BIKES OR E-BICYCLE ARE A BICYCLE OR TRICYCLE WITH OPERATED PEDALS AND A SEAT OR SADDLE FOR USE OF THE RIDER AND ELECTRIC MOTOR OF LESS THAN 70 WATTS OF THE SPECIFICATION OF THESE THREE CLASSES IN SECTION 316.5003 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE. ELECTRIC SCOOTER OR E-SCOOTER ANY VEHICLE OR MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE POWERED BY A MOTOR WITH OR WITHOUT A SEAT OR SADDLE FOR THE USE OF THE RIDESER THAT IS DESIGN TODAY TRAVEL IS IT ON NOT MORE THAN THREE PEELS THAT IS NOT CAPABLE OF PRO TELLING THE VEHICLE AT SPEEDS 20 MILES PER HOUR ON A LEVEL GROUND.

THE DETERMINE DOES NOT INCLUDE AN ELECTRONIC -- ELECTRIC BICYCLE. OTHER DEFINITIONS, OTHER OR ELECTRIFIED DEVICE POWERED E- WITH A MOTOR WITH OR WITHOUT THE SEAT OR SADDLE FOR THE USE OF THE RIDER THAT IS DESIGNED TO TRAVEL ON NOT MORE THAN FOUR WHEELS THAT IS NOT CAPABLE OF PROPELLING THE VEHICLE GREATER ATLANTA 20 MILES PER HOUR ON LEVEL GROUND. THE TERM DOES IN THE INCLUDE ELECTRIC BICYCLE OR ELECTRIC SCOOTER.

CHANGES ARE IDENTIFIED HERE IN AND RED LINED IN SECTION 3 CONDUCT, SECTION 3. 02, RESTRICTIONS OF ANIMALS ON ITS BEACH. SECTION D, ST. JOHNS COUNTY ORDINANCE UPDATED 25017-36 AS MAYBE AMEND IS HEREBY INCORPORATE BY REFERENCING AND UPDATING WITH THE CURRENT ANIMAL CODES EVER ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SECTION 314, AIRCRAFT, NO ONE OERATING, DIRECTING OR RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY AIRCRAFT, SEAPLANE, HELICOPTER, GLIDER, BALLOON, DURABLE PARACHUTE,

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SECTION 3.15, ELECTRIC MOTORIZED DEVICES.

UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO, A, OPERATE ANY E-BIKE, E-SCOOTER OR OTHER ELECTRIFIED DEVICES IN A CARELESS MANNER.

CARELESS OPERATION OF A E-BIKE, E-SCOOTER AND OTHER ELECTRIFIED DEVICE SHALL INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ONE, RTS OPERATION OF A E-BIKE, E-SCOOTER AND OTHER ELECTRIFIED DEVICES WITH ANY PERSON ON THE HANDLEBARS AND ANY PERSON IN FRONTS OF THE OPERATOR AND OPERATION OF E-BIKE, E-SCOOTER AND MOTORIZED DEVICES. SPEED GREATER THAN IS REASONABLE AND PRUDENT UNDER THE CONDITIONS HAVING REGARDED TO THE TALL AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS THAN EXISTING INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE SAFETY OF THE OPERATOR OR ANY OTHER PERSON ON THE PROPERTY.

SECTION 315, CONTINUED ELECTRIC MOTORIZED DEVICES.

SECTION 3, FAILURE TO YIELD TO POSSESSIONS.

WEAVING IN AND OUT OF PEDESTRIANS AND TRAFFIC AND STATIONARY BEACH GOINGS. OPERATION OF E-BIKES WITH MORE RIDERS, PASSENGERS FOR WHICH IT IS DESIGNED OR SECTION, SECTION 6, ANY OCCURRENCE INADVERTENCE TO THE SAFE AND OPERATION OF THE E-BIKE, E-SCOOTERS AND OTHER DEVICES HAD ARE LIKELY TO CAUSE DAMAGE TO ANY PERSON OR PROPERTY.

ALL OPERATORS SHALL AT ALL TIMES KWLOOELD YIELD TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO PEDESTRIANS AND TAKE PRECAUTIONS AS MAY BE NECESSARY BEFORE PARKING OR MOVING VEHICLE PREVIOUSLY PARKED TO AVOID ACCIDENT OR COLLISIONS WITH OR INJURY TO ANY PERSONS OR PROPERTY. NEXT UPDATE IS SECTION 5, TRAFFIC, PARKING REGULATIONS PROHIBITED ACTIONS.

AND IT STRIKEOUTSES ESSENTIALLY CAUSE, SEND SAND TO BE THROWN INTO THE AIR ACROSS ANY BEACH TO OPERATE ANY VOTER VEHICLE.

SO AS TO INTENTIONALLY CAUSE STAND TO BE THROWN INTO THE AIR OR ANY PARK BEACH AREA. THOSE ARE THE CHANGES STAFF STAFF RECOMMENDED TO THE BEACH CODE.

AND I AM OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. AND A COMMENT TO THIS POINT -- AGAIN, THIS IS REMINDER THAT THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. KANE.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I HAVE ONE QUESTION, MY HUSBAND WANTED TO KNOW, POWERED WHEELCHAIRS.

IS THAT OKAY? >> IT'S -- EVERYTHING IS OKAY IN THE ELECTRIC SIDE. IT JUST NEEDS TO BE OPERATED IN A SAFE AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER. THAT IS AT WHAT TIME SHERIFF'S OFFICE PUT IN THE THERE. AND IT WAS REALLY HARD TO ELIMINATE ANY ELEMENT WITHIN THERE.

IT JUST SAID YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION PEDESTRIANS, ETC. SO -- IT LEFT IT GENERIC TO BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ENVISION E-BIKES HOW MANY YEARS AGO AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT VERSION OF AN E-BIKE

IS THAT WILL BE COMING OUT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: IF NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION ITEM, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.

GOOD MORNING. >> CHUCK LEBONOWSKI.

I LOVE THE ACCESS FOR THE ELECTRIC BIKES AND SCOOTERS AND WHATEVER. MY JEEP IS ON THAT BEACH CONSTANTLY. TEN MILES PER HOUR.

THESE E-BIKES OR SCOOTERS OR WHATEVER, THEY RUN A LOT FASTER.

AND IT IS HARD TO CONTROL IT. THERE WAS ZIG-ZAG IN AND OUT OF THE BEACH. I GO THERE ALL THE TIME AND SEE IT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS POSSIBLY -- I HAVE TO GET STICKER ON MY JEEP.

WHY DON'T WE DO THE SAME THING AT A REDUCED RATE TO REQUIRE STICKERS ON THE E-BIKES AND E SCOOTERS, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO HELP FINE TUNE THIS ORDINANCE? MR. KANE.

IS IT WORTH EXPLORING A STICKER FOR THE E-BIKES IF THEY HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME WITH A FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION, YOU HE WOULD INVITE RESPONSIBLE OPERATORS INSTEAD OF IRRESPONSIBLE OPERATORS. IS THERE ANY WISDOM ON THAT?

>>ERIC CLARK: WE CAN START THE COMMUNICATION ON THAT.

THE CHALLENGE I SEE RIGHT AWAY MOST VEHICLES ARE REGISTERED AND THE BICYCLES ARE NOT REGISTERED AND A CHALLENGE.

I WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND DO THAT BEFORE

[6. Consider appointments to the Contractors Review Board]

BEYOND THAT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: OKAY.

VERY GOOD. THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE WILL MOVE STON ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.

THANK YOU, MR. KANE. BRING US NO JOANNE SPENCER FOR AGENDA ITEMS 6 AND 7. MISS SPENCER.

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>> IS IT STILL SNORNG GOOD MORNING.

THANK THE CHAIR AND ADMINISTRATION FOR ALLOWING ME NOT TO GO LAST. THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST AUDIENCE I EVER HAD. I'M HERE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, WHICH IS CONSIDER APPOINTMENT TO THE CONTRACTORS REVIEW BOARD.

THIS BOARD HAVE THREE VACANCIES ALL FEW TO EXPIRED DETERMINES.

VACANCY AD WAS PLACED FOR SIX WEEKS.

THEY RECEIVED TEN APPLICATIONS. CRB RECOMMENDED SECOND TERM FOR ALL THREE CURRENTS MEMBERS WHO DID EXPIRE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM ON STANDBY.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FOR MISS PENCER. PUBLIC COMMENT ARNOLD AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: BACK TO THE BOARD.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO MOVE THESE ITEMS IF NOBODY.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: I WILL MOVE THEM.

MOTION TO REAPPOINT KYLE JONES AS A LICENSED PLUMBER FOR A FULL

FOUR-YEAR DETERMINE. >> SECOND.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ON ALD AND A SECT FROM COMMISSIONER DEAN. PLEASE ROTE.

PASS 5-0. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NOTION APPOINT TILE HER LEE TO THE CONTRACTOR REVIEW WORD FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE IN 2027.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: MOTION TO REAPPOINT KYLIE TURNER TO THE CONTRACTOR REVIEW BOARD AS A CLASS 2 CONTRACTOR FOR A FULL

[7. Consider appointment to the Cultural Resource Review Board]

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: POLICE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5-0. >> THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 7 IS CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE CULTURAL RESOURCE REVIEW BOARD. CURRENTLY ONE VACANCY DUE TO THE EXPIRED TERM OF -- I BELIEVE IT IS ROBERT OLSON.

PLACED FOR SIX WEEKS. REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION A RECOMMENDATION LETTER FLORIDA THE CRB.

AND SIX QUALIFYING. THEM RECOMMEND ROBERT OLSON TO SERVE A SECOND DETERMINE. IN YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM ON STAND. BPDBY.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SPENCER?

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 7. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: BEFORE IT MANGE A MOTION. ANILA IS ALWAYS AT ALL THE MEETINGS AND RECOMMENDS DISTRICT 3.

WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF DISTRICT 3 ON THE BOARD BUT ROBERT OLSON WAS DECIDED UPON IN THE LAST MEETING SO I AM GOING TO MOTION TO APPOINT ROBERT OLSON TO THE CULTURAL RESOURCE REVIEW BOARD FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR DETERMINE SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE 2027.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOSEPH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. PLEASE VOTE.

PASS 5-0. THANK YOU, MISS SPENCER.

I AM GOING TO MAKE A DECISION TO TRY TO SPEED THINGS ALONG A LITTLE BIT, TO MOVE OUR REPORTS UP TO THIS PORTION OF THE

[Commissioners’ Reports (Part 1 of 2)]

ELSE TO ADD? >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: FOR

COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I SAW YOUR

-- >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: IT WAS ON FOR THE LAST. SORRY.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VERY GOOD. YOU CAN KICK US OFF FOR

CMMISSIONER REPORTS. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I KIND OF WAIT UNTIL THE DAY GOES AND MAKE A REPORT AT THE END OF THE DAY

IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: AS YOU WISH.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NOTHING TO REPORT.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I THINK I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ENOUGH THIS MORNING. IF.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT, BUT I WANT TO SAY HOW CONSTRUCTIVE I THOUGHT HOW THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS. I FOUND THAT BE VERY INFORMATIVE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.

ONE ITEM I NEED TO BRIDGE TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION.

ITS IN INITIAL CONVERSATION WITH MISS ANDREWS.

YOU MAY REMEMBER DURING OUR MEETING LAST TUESDAY, THE TASKED ME OF NEGOTIATING THE CONTRACT WITH OUR NEW APPOINTEE FOR ST.

JOHNS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THE LAST TIME I DID THIS WITH MR. CONRAD, TOOK A MONTH AND A HALF TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF AN AGREEMENT.

MULTIPLE THINGS THAT HE WANTED DURING THAT DISCUSSION.

AGAIN, AT THAT TIME, IT TOOK US ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF.

MISS ANDREWS AND I DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, THE -- THIS IS SORT OF NEW TO HER. SHE DOESN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT SHE MAY WANT TO ASK FOR. SHE WANTS TO EXPLORE WHAT OTHER COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS ARE DOING AT SIMILAR SIZED K69S ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA. IF YOU WORK WITH MISS ANDREWS, HOW THOROUGH SHE IS IN EVERYTHING SHE CHOOSES TO DO AND WHY WOULD THIS BE ANY DIFFERENT. I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS, I THINK WE NEED MORE TIME THAN ITS REMAINDER OF THE TENURE OF MY

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ELECTS A NEW VICE-CHAIR. MY THOUGHT AND MISS ANDREWS THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD LET THE NEXT CHAIR DO THE NEGOTIATING, WHOEVER THAT MIGHT BE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FORMAL MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT AS IS A COURSE OF ACTION.

BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE MISS ANDREWS TO GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ABOUT WHAT WE DISCUSSED.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL THOUGHT AND WOULD APPRECIATE MORE TIME DO RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE MY PROPOSAL A IS REASONABLE WITH RESEARCH.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: OBVIOUSLY I AM ASKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT. YOU GUYS GAVE A MOTION TO APPOINT ME TO DO THE NEGOTIATING.

IF. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: MR. CHAIR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DELEGATE THE NEXT CHAIR TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT FOR MISS ANDREWS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND.

GO. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ALAIMO AND SECOND FOR BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON COMMISSIONER ALAIMO'S MOTION. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALAIMO, IF THERE IS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

THE NEXT CHAIR AND WHOEVER IS ELECTED AND ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH MISS ANDREW PER HER CONTRACT OPINION.

AND THAT IS THE END OF MY REPORT.

[Public Comment (Part 1 of 2)]

>> NOT AT THIS TIME. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MR. MIGETT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE ARE A LITTLE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE WHICH IS NEVER A BAD THING. LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

PERSON WILL COME PODIUM AND EACH WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. COMMENTS HAVE WILL BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS WHOLE AND NOT ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER.

AND NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT OR STAND THERER RUSS REMARKS AND MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHALL REFRAIN FROM ANY APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

FINALLY, ANY SPEAKER THAT PROVIDES MATERIALS TO BE ENTER INTO PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. >> JOE MC ERENEY ST. JOHNS.

AND TYLER HAS PUT UP A POWERPOINT FOR ME.

THANK YOU, TYLER, SO WERE. THE TOPIC HELP SAVE OTTO AGENCIES PLACE. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

YOU SNOW WHERE THIS IS, NORTHWEST AREA ALONG THE SCENIC HIGHWAY. OTTO'S PLACE IS -- YOU I HOPE I CAN GET THIS MOVING. OKAY.

SO OTTO'S PLACE IS A ROAD, A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH LIVE OAK, LANDSCAPE MEDIUMS AND DESIGNED IN 1985.

A PLOT OF LAND WHICH IS NOW THE FRUIT COVE HE IS SKATES SUBDIVISION. 45 HOMES.

AT THIS TIME THERE WAS A NURSERY AND THE OWNER OF THE NURSERY ALSO OWNED A PLOT OF LAND THAT THE ESTATES ARE ON.

AND WANTED TO ENHANCE THE NURSERY BY DEVELOPING AN ACCESS ROAD THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. WOW ARE.

WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE LIKE THIS IN THE COUNTY.

SO IT IS A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH LIVE OAK TREES AND LANDSCAPE MEDIAN AND I WILL SMELL A FEW MORE PICTURES OF THAT. BUT IT IS ALSO A RIGHT-OF-WAY SURROUNDED NOW BY A NEW PROPOSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

CONSTRUCTION COM 202-43 WHICH PROPOSES 56,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND RETAIL. AND OVER 200 PARKING SPACES DOES PROPOSE TO CUT ALMOST HE 2 MOUNTAIN TREES.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MET. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITESBURST HAS WORKED WITH STAFF AND OTHERS TO TRY TO ADDRESS IDEAS NOT TO MAKE THAT.

SO WE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESS ENVELOPE IS THA REGARD.

SO THERE WILL BE ALMOST 200 TREES KILLED INCLUDING ONE AT 200 YEARS OLD AND ONE AT 100 YEARS OLD.

STAFLT HAS REVIEWED THE PLANS AND AN IMPORTANT REVIEW IS THAT THE OTOE'S PLACE WILL NEED TO BE WIDENED, QUOTE, WITH SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE EXISTING TREES AND THE APPEARANCE OF OTOE'S PLACE.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT OTOE'S PLACE IS LIKE THESE DAYS.

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UBELIEVABLE. SO WE ARE ASKING THIS QUESTION.

AREN'T THESE TREES PUBLIC PROPERTY? CAN'T THE COUNTY SAY YOU CAN'T CUT THESE PUBLIC TREES.

AND THE STAFF COMMENTS SAYS THAT I -- I SHOULD HAVE SAID OTOTOE'S PLACE MAY NEED TO BE WIDENED. THE QUESTION OUT FLORIDA WE LAOS THE OPPORTUNITY SAVE 200 TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT F-10 TREES PROPOSED TO KUBT WITH THE LOSS OF MEDIAN AND LANDSCAPE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. CAN'T THE COUNTY SAY YOU CAN'T CUTS THOSE -- YOU CAN'T CUT THOSE TREES? I'M HERE TODAY TO APPEAL TO YOU TO SPEAK TO STAFF.

HELP SAVE OTOE'S PLACE. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS PUBLIC PROPERTY. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> MICHAEL DUNOV. TAM MA RIDGED PLACE.

PICTURES PAINT A THOUSAND WORDS AND OTOE'S PLACE.

THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVED IN FOR NEARLY 14 YEARS NOW. IT IS BEAUTIFUL AS ALREADY HAS BEEN STATED. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CONCERN.

WE RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO GO AHEAD.

WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT HAS TO DESTROY THE ENTRANCE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I PUT TOGETHER THIS PICTORIAL. I SHOWED SOME OF THE TREES.

AND IT IS JUST DEVASTATING. THE WAY THE PLANNING WAS DONE AND THE ZONING CHANGED I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE WOULD ENVISION THIS ENTRANCE WOULD BE COMPLETELY DESTROYED ROAR GUTTED AND CLEANED OUT. PRESENTING FOR US AT THE MOMENT LIKE DRIVING INTO A PARKING LOT TO GO INTO OUR HOME.

A BEAUTIFUL CANOPY OF OLD TREES. BACK TO STATE ROAD 13.

WOULD YOU HARDLY KNOW IT IS THERE THIS BLACKOUT IS MY BEST ESTIMATE WHAT IS TAKEN AWAY FOR A STRAIGHT ROAD IN.

BEAUTIFUL TREELESS DESTROYED, CUT DOWN.

DEVASTATING. THIS IS IT WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT AT THE VERY END.

JUST A FANTASTIC THING. SAFETY IS A HUGE CONCERN.

RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE, THERE IS A BUS STOP.

USED EVERY DAY. THERE IS A VISUALLY-IMPAIRED PERSON WHO GETS OFF THIS BUS EVERY DAY.

THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE PRO PROPOSING WIDENS AND INCREASING THE TRAFFIC. A BUSY STRIP MALL DIRECTLY OPPOSITE US AS WELL. PRESIDENT TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

YOU SEE A CAR TURNING OF ONE STRIP MALL.

ANOTHER ONE OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ANOTHER ONE MOVING IN. THIS CAR IS WAITING IN THE MEDIAN COMPLETELY ILLEGALLY. SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET OUT. THERE ARE ALREADY CURB CUTS CUTS. THREE CURB CUTS ON TO STATE ROAD 13 THAT EXIST. NONE ON TO OAK MUST PLACE.

I AM SURE WHEN THE ZONING WAS APPROVED, THESE CURB YOU CUTS WERE PART OF THAT ZONING THE TRIP MALL TO THE SOUTH.

WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THE STRIP MALL, YOU HAVE TO GO SOUTH.

THIS IS A CURB CUT FROM THAT EXISTING STRIP MALL INTO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE STRIP MALL.

A BUSY MALL, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE SAME SIZE AS THE ONE BEING YOU PROPOSED. IN SUMMARY, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE STATED OBJECTIVE.

IT WILL DESTROY OUR ENTRANCE. I PERSONALLY WITNESSED AN ACCIDENT TWO MONTHS AGO. IT IS NOT NEEDED.

THE CURB CUTS ALREADY AND THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TSARNAEV ARNOLD

THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. SORRY.

I AM RECENTLY RETIRED MILITARY, SO I AM NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE CIVILIAN WORLD. BUT COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU -- COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. I JUST RETIRED TWO MONTHS AGO.

I AM A DISABLED VETERAN. I STARTED UP A BUSINESS BECAUSE

-- >> COULD YOU TELL US YOUR NAME

AND ADDRESS. >> TO COMBINE EVERYTHING INTO ONE BECAUSE I WAS NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.

>> YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR. >> SPANISH BAY DRIVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> BUT -- NAVAL INTELLIGENCE, I WAS ABLE TO TAKE EVERYTHING AND KIND OF DO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DO ANYMORE.

PUT THEMSELVES IN ANOTHER PERSON'S SHOES.

BASED ON THAT, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, THE SAFETY SHOOTING. MY SON PLAYS BASEBALL FOR THE THUNDER. THAT HIT HARD.

WE WERE AT A DIFFERENT FIELD FORTUNATE, BUT I KNOW PLENTY OF

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THE POLICE DID A FANTASTIC JOB AND DID WHAT THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE QUESTION WE ALSO GET GRAPPLED WITH IS WHY.

THIS IS THE ANSWER TO WHY. BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST OUR BALANCE, MATHEMATICALLY I FOUND WHERE IT IS.

PONS WHAT WE CALL THE SOUL. YOU PUT THE EYES AND EARS ON THE SAME LEVEL HEARING THE BEST YOU HAVE AND SEEING THE BEST YOU EVER HAVE. IF YOU USED YOUR RIGHT HAND BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT HAND DOMINANT, NOT USING THE MOST EFFECTIVE EYE. THE LEFT ONE IS CLOSER TWO POINTS, SHORT DISTANCE TO A STRAIGHT LINE.

IF OUR EYES REFLECT LIGHT TO DIFFERENT ANGLES, IT IS NOT GETTING THERE IN TIME AND THAT'S WHERE WE START TO LOSE OUR BALANCE. SO, TO FINISH WITH WHAT I HAVE GOT HERE, ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS MY HOME.

I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME OPINIONED A WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT A BEACON FOR THE WORLD, AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF IT. AND IT IS GOING TO BE AN AMAZING ADVENTURE. I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

EVERYTHING I HAVE SEEN THIS MORNING IN, YOU GUYS ARE VERY WISE. AND IT WAS ACTUALLY GOOD TO SEE A CONVERSATION WHERE PEOPLE WEREN'T ARGUING.

BECAUSE WHERE I CAME FROM, IT IS A LOT DIFFERENT STORY IN THE MILITARY, BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH LIFE AND DEATH.

HERE WE GOT LIFE AND DEATH, JUST ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS ALL GOT PUT IN THE RECORD BECAUSE ONE DAY, THIS WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL THING FOR EVERYBODY.

SO, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN. I WANTED TO ASK MR. ROBERTSON, IF I COULD, TO COME UP. I KNOW YOU ARE NOT PREPARED FOR THIS. I DIDN'T PREPARE YOU FOR IN.

BUT I HAVE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL THAT IS ALREADY ENTITLED NEXT TO THE O TOE'S PLACE ENTRANCE.

WOULD THAT BE COMING FORWARD FOR REZONING, THIS BOARD WILL HAVE INFLUENCE WHAT THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO DO AND HOW THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO DO IT AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT PARCEL IS ENTITLED.

THEY ARE ALLOWED TO MR. WHAT THEY ARE BUILDING BY RIGHT.

MC IRNEY AND THE GENTLEMAN REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAKE A FANTASTIC POINT. ANY MERIT WHAT THEY SAY.

AS A RESIDENT AND COMMISSIONER, TO SAVE THAT BEAUTIFUL -- REALLY SPECIAL ENTRANCE OFF OF STATE ROAD 13 REQUEST ALL THE TREES.

>> SURE. MIKE ROBINSON AND I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING ME ON THE SPOT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT SAVING TREES THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL. A BEAUTIFUL AREA.

TO START WITH, THOUGH, YOU ARE RIGHT, THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER IS ENTITLED. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO DEVELOP THERE COMMERCIALLY. THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN IN REVIEW WITH COUNTY STAFF RIGHT NOW.

IT IS NOT COMPLETE YET. WE HAVE BEEN IN TO COMMUNICATION THOUGH WITH MR. MCIRNEY AND MR. DUNLOP.

AND WE SAID WE WOULD RELAY ALL THAT INFORMATION TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL. WE EXPLAINED TO STAFF, THERE ARE RULES LATHE LAID OUT TO EVERYBODY AS LONG AS THEY MAKE THE RULES, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RULES, WHEN THEY ARE EN TITLED, THOSE ARE THE RULES AND THEY ABIDE BY THEM AND DEVELOP THEM ACCORDINGLY. WE DID RELAY THAT AND I HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, ENCOURAGED THEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY DO IS THEIR PREROGATIVE, BUT WE DID EXPRESS AND RELAY THEIR CONCERNS. SO THAT IS WHERE WE STAND,

COMMISSIONERS, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY STEPS WE CAN TAKE -- I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. ANY ACTIONS OR STEPS THAT THE BOARD CAN TAKE SO NOT A SECOND ENTRANCE GOING OUT TO OTOE'S PLACE. WOULD THAT CREATE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE? NOT MY INTENT.

WHATEVER WE COULD DO. WOULD LIKE A BRIEF -- MAYBE IN THE OFFICE ONE ON ONE TO SCHEDULE SOME TIME.

ANY ACTION OR STEPS WE CAN BRING BEFORE THE BOARDS FOR CONSIDERATION, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, IF ANYTHING, WE CAN

DO. >> SO MR. DE-SOUZA, YOU CAN NOD YOUR HEADS, THAT IS STATE ROAD AT THAT POINT? STATE ROAD RIGHT THERE. SO THEY WOULD CONTROL HOWEVER OUR TECHNICAL GROUP WITH REGARD TO ACCESS.

WE COULD COMMUNICATE OR CON ZA CONCERNS FOR THEM AND LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES AND WORK THAT WITH THE STATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO.

WE CAN MEET WITH YOU AND EXPLORE OPTIONS WITH BOTH STAFF AND

POTENTIALLY THE APPLICANT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU FOR IG THAT YOU CAN DO. I APPRECIATE IT.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. I SEE YOU WANT TO SPEAK.

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: YES.

WELL, ACTUALLY, YOU EXPRESSED MY EXACT THOUGHTS.

THIS IS YOUR DISTRICTS. AND I WILL REFER TO YOUR

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WE HAD A BIG ISSUE A YEAR OR TWO AGO ABOUT A LARGE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX WHERE RACETRACK DEAD-INS INTO.

>> THEY NEVER FILED AN APPLICATION BUT THEY WERE

THINKING ABOUT IT. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: THIS ISN'T THE SAME SPOT? BUT I SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

AND AS ONE COMMISSIONER, AGAIN, I SUPPORT YOU ON THIS.

I WOULD LIKE -- BUT I ALSO DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTANDS IS THAT THERE MIGHT SHALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE MEDIAN ON THE, QUOTE, PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ZERO IN ON IF ANYTHING ELSE.

BOY DOES A PICTURE SAY MORE THAN 1,000 WORDS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS THEY SHOWED AND I CERTAINLY WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN. I DO KNOW -- AND I WILL SAY IT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE INCLUDED MORE FUNDS THAN THE COMMITTEE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLY ACQUIRE SOME OF THAT MEDIAN PROPERTY, BECAUSE WE COULD DO EVERYTHING

WE CAN TO SAVE THESE TREES. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN. MR. MIGGET.

>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.

I AM NOT COMPLETELY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARCEL ON THE STOP OF MY HEAD, IF THEY COME BEFORE YOU AS A QUASI JUDICIAL.

IT MAY NOT. TODAY IS VERY INFORMATIONAL AND VERY VALUABLE, NONE OF THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT -- USED FOR A FUTURE DECISION IN A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING.

JUST THAT REMINDER FOR YOU ALL. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: AN IMPORTANT

LEGAL CLARIFICATION. >> FOR DUE PROCESS AT THE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I AM SEEKING INFORMATION EXPLORING ANYTHING WE CAN POSSIBLY DO, BUT THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU CLEARING THAT UP, MR. MIGGETT.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: IT WARMS MY HEART THAT YOU GUYS WANTS TO SAVE TREES AND THANK YOU FOR LOOK CAN AT THAT AND SEEING HOW BEAUTIFUL THEY ARE.

AND THAT WILL BE GREAT GOING FORWARD.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YES, MA'AM. MR. ROBINSON.

>> IF I MAY, IS THAT HAPPENS A LOT IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORLD, ENCOURAGE REASONABLENESS FROM BOTH PARTIES AND UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY WILL DEVELOP COMES TREES AND THINGS THAT NAY NEED TO BE CUT DOWN, BUT MAYBE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES AND BOTH PARTIES ALWAYS -- WE ENCOURAGE IT, HAVE TO BE REASONABLE AND

WORK WITH EVE OTHER. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: AN

[8. Public Hearing * PUD 2023-02 Ponte Vedra Resort]

BEFORE WE DO, MR. MIGGETT GO OVER THE FORMAT.

>> ASSISTANT CITY KOREAN WILL GO OVER IS THAT WITH YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WE INTEND TO USE THE PUBLIC HEARING FORMAT.

WE HAVE AN ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY JOINING US SO THAT IS TYPICALLY HOW WE HANDLE THE HEARING AFTER THAT OCCURS.

SO WE WILL BEGIN BY SWEARING IN OF WITNESSES.

THAT WILL BE ALL PEOPLE, WHETHER COUNTY STAFF, APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES OR THE PUBLIC TO BE SWORN IN.

THEN THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THEY WILL HAVE 45 MINUTES. THE ADVERSELY AFFECTED.

WILL HAVE 20 MINUTES. FOLLOWING THAT, FOUR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES. THEY WILL HAVE UP TO TEN MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK. AND PUBLIC COMMENT WILL FOLLOW THAT WITH THREE MINUTES FOR EACH.

AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, THEED A VERILY AFFECTED PARTY WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. AND LASTLY, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE 20 MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. THEN THE ISSUE GOES BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSIONS, QUESTIONS AND A VOTE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU. BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING, A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM AND DO OUR EX-PARTE DISCLOSURES.

TO THE RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER JO

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WILL START DECEMBER 9, 2022 WITH JOHN PEYTON AND BEVERLY FRAZIER. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT. DISCUSSED THE FUTURE OF UPGRADING AND HE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT DOLPHIN COVE IS IN GOOD FAITH. MAKE IT LOOK BETTER SO PEOPLE WILL HAVE MORE FEELING ABOUT HOW HE IS GOING TO HANDLE THE REMODELING OF THE HOE BELL TAMPA MULT 3E8 CALLS WITH JOHN PEYTON AND TEXTING WITH JOHN PEYTON WITH THE DOLPHIN COVE AND THE

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GOT DIFFERENT FACTS. PHONE CALL ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12 WITH CHIP GREEN, FZAB MEMBER. PHONE CALLS WITH JA JANE RAULESON, PZAB MEMBER, OPPOSED.

MEETING WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE, OPPOSED AND STAFF.

MEETING ON -- THAT WAS REGARDING THE CARLISLE.

MEETING ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2023 AT 1:30 WITH DOUG BURNETT OPPOSED IN STAFF. JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON ANYTHING DIFFERENT. MEETING ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2023, 12:30 P.M. WITH MEGAN MCKINLEY AND STAFF.

SITE TOUR ON OCTOBER 19 WHERE I HAVE WALKED FOUR MILES UP AND DOWN THE BOULEVARD WITH BEVERLY FRAZIER, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND MEETING WITH JANE RAULERSON.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU. I AM ALSO GOING TO GO BACK TO TWIN 2022.

MET WITH JOHN PEYTON AT 11:45 A.M. AND DISCUSSED THE FUTURE, PLANS FOR THE FUTURE. OPINIONED THIS YEAR, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 9 AT NOON, I MET WE WILL HE WILL DISCUSSING THE SAME THING. MONDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2 P.M., MEETING ON-SITE. CUSSED MANY OF THE SAME THINGS.

MANY OF THE CHANGES REGARDING THE CARLISLE.

MEETING ON -- ACTUALLY YESTERDAY, I MET WITH EL ELLEN AVERY SMITH FOR AN HOUR. TOWING BURNETT, TUESDAY, 2023 AT 1 P.M. AND SPOKE WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE SEPTEMBER 28 AT 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE CARLISLE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: OKAY. I HAD A MEETING IN LATE 2022.

I WAS UNABLE TO FIND THE DATE, BUT A VERY HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW WITH PICTURES OF RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE FOR THE PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB AND THE LODGE.

AND I HAD A MEETING ON TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY THE 2ND AT 4 P.M. WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

A MEETING TUESDAY, OCTOBER 10 AT 2 P.M. WITH DOUG BURNETT TO EXPRESS HIS OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT FOR THE MANY REASONS HE WAS OPPOSING IT. MET WITH MEGAN MCKINLEY OCTOBER 12, APPROXIMATELY P.M., WITH OUR STAFF.

SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE PZAB. AND EXPRESSED HER OPPOSITION FROM HER SEAT ON THE PZAB AND HER POINT OF VIEW AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY. MET ON OCTOBER 5 AT THE PONTE VEDRA INDONESIA WITH JOHN PEYTON, MISTY CAPER AND ELLEN AVERY SMITH, DETAILED PROPOSAL AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS THEY HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH AND THE RESULTS OF THOSE MEETINGS WHICH RESULTED IN SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE TODAY. MET ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2 WITH JANE RAULERSON MEMBERS OF THE PZAB AND STAFF.

SHE HAD A SLIDE DECK PRESENTATION WITH SOME OF HER CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT, PRIMARILY SURROUNDING THE HEIGHT OF SOME OF THE BUILDINGS BEING PROPOSED.

AND I MET YESTERDAY ON NOVEMBER 6 AT THE BEACH DINER WITH CHIP GREEN MEMBERS OF THE PZAB AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING.

HE EXPRESSED TO ME SOME OF HIS THOUGHTS.

IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. HE EXPRESSED SOME OF THE THINGS HE HEARD AT PZAB AND SOME OF THE CHANGES MADE DURING THAT MEETING. COMMISSIONER DEAN? FORGIVE ME, I WANT TO AMEND MY EX-PARTE. I RECEIVED A LOT OF E-MAILS IN SUPPORT OF AND A LOT OF E-MAILS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MINE AS WELL,

COUNTLESS E-MAILS ON BOTH SIDES. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MINE. 200 AGAINST.

200 FOR. OF THE 200 AGAINST, 75% WERE NOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT -- 50% WERE NOT IN THE COUNTY.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: OKAY. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE E-MAILS.

THEY ARE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO TO THE PUBLIC RECORD AND LOOK ■ATALL 200 TO 300 E-MAILS EACH OF US RECEIVED, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO SO. BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY WHEN THEY ARE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: MINE WAS

THE OPPOSITE WHAT I SAID. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: WEDNESDAY MEETING WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH, MISTY SKIPPER AND JOHN PEYTON TO DISCUSS ALL THE ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AND

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ON SEPTEMBER 18 OF '23, 2:30, I MET WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE WHO AT THE TIME WAS REPRESENTING THE CARLISLE CONDOMINIUM OWNERS EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE THAT WAS AT THAT TIME PROPOSED TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE CARLISLE AND ALSO HIGHER THAN THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11 AT 3:00, I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT.

AND STAFF TO DISCUSS OPPOSITION FROM APPARENTLY A CLIENT OR CLIENTS THAT DOUG WAS REPRESENTING OPPOSING THE PROJECT. ON OCTOBER 11 AT 3:30, MET WITH MEGAN MCKINLEY AND STAFF TO, AGAIN, DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND ALL THAT THAT ENTAILED. AND THEN LAST -- LAST WEEK NOVEMBER 2, 2:30, I MET WITH JANE RAULERSON AND STAFF TO WALK THROUGH THE CONCERNS SHE EXPRESSED ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND I ALREADY MENTIONED THE E-MAILS. THAT IS MY EX-PARTE, MR.

CHAIRMAN. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MR. DEAN. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO .

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I MET WITH MR. PEYTON AND MISTY SKIPPER. TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 12, MET WITH CHIP GREEN FROM PZAB TO DISCUSS HIS OPINION ON THE PROJECT.

I HAD ANOTHER PHONE CALL ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12 WITH JOHN PEYTON TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND THE RESULT FROM P ZAB.

HAD A MEETING ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26 AT 11:30 WITH JAMES WHITEHOUSE AND STAFF. HE WAS REPRESENTING THE CARLISLE. MEETING TUESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2:30 P.M. WITH DOUG BURNETT WHO IS OPPOSED AND WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. MEETING ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19 AT 12:30 P.M. WITH JANE RAULERSON AND STAFF TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT. MEETING ON THURSDAY OCTOBER 19 AT 1:00 P.M. WITH CHRISTINE VALLEY, SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY AND A SITE VISIT THURSDAY OCTOBER 26, WITH ELLEN AVERY AND STAFF, MISTY SKIPPER AND JOHN PEYTON TO.

NOVEMBER 6, YESTERDAY, A BRIEF PHONE CALL WITH ELLEN.

AVERY SMITH TO GO OVER THE CHANGES AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE RECEIVED E-MAILS, CORRESPONDENCE AND DIALOGUE FROM CONSTITUENTS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: RECOGNIZE ANY COMMISSIONER FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DURING ANY OF THE PRESENTATION ITEMS. WHETHER IT IS THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION OR THE ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY PRESENTATION OR ANY ONE OF THE FOUR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, WRITE THEM DOWN.

THERE WILL BE A TIME AFTER EACH ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND MAKE THOSE COMMENTS.

IF YOU WILL PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNE

WITNESSES. >> YES.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

AT THIS TIME IF I WILL ASK ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE TODAY AND WHO MAY THINK THEY WILL DO SO TO PLEASE STAND. AND IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT I AM ABOUT TO ASK YOU. DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE TODAY BEFORE THE BOARD IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH TO THE BEST OF YOUR

KNOWLEDGE? >> I DO.

>> THANK YOU, YOU MAY BE SEATED. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MISS V ALIER. WE ARE READY TO HEAR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION. MADAM VICE-CHAIR, IF YOU SET THE CLOCK TO 45 MINUTES. MISS AVERY-SMITH, GOOD

AFTERNOON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY PLEASURE AND HONOR TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE PEYTON FAMILY AND ALSO THE BIGGER FAMILY OF GATE PETROLEUM COUNTY AND PONTZ CORPORATION. BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION, I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE PROFESSIONAL TEAM INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS FOR OVER A YEAR IN COMPILING AND MODIFYING AND TESTIFYING RELATED TO THIS PROJECT WITH ME. I AM ELLEN AVERY SMITH.

100 WETSTONE PLACE. WITH ME MY LAW PARTNER EMILY

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EXPERTS IN THE PONTE VEDRA. BRAD DAVIS IS OUR PROJECT CIVIL ENGINEERING FROM PROCESSOR. LINDSEY HASSA IS OUR PROJECT PLANNING EFFORT FROM ETM. JEFF CRAVEN IS OUR PROJECT TRANSPORTATION EXPERT FROM ETM. POPE BULLOCK AND KYLE RICE FROM COOPER CAREY, THE ARCHITECTS FOR THE PONTZ INDONESIA AND PROPERTY. NOAH MARKS AND RUSSER WIN FOR THE LODGE PROPERTY AND JASON PERRY AND DAVID SMITH FROM NINE OAKS IS OUR EXPERTS IN CONSTRUCTION LAW.

WHILE MR. PEYTON IS COMING UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT HIS VISION FOR THE PROJECT, I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD ITS CVS FOR OUR ENTIRE EXPERT TEAM AND INTRODUCE INTO THE RECORD OBVIOUSLY THERE HAVE BEEN 14 DIFFERENT MODIFICATIONS TO THIS APPLICATION. WE SUBMIT ALL OF THAT DOCUMENTATION INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

JOHN PEYTON. I SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF GATE PETROLEUM. DATE IS THE OWNER OF THE PONTE VEDRA INDONESIA AND THE LODGING COMPANY.

I AM JOINED BY MY FATHER WHO IS FOUNDER OF GATE PETROLEUM.

MY BROTHER HILL, MY BROTHER FOREST AND TWO SONS.

WE HAVE THREE GENERATIONS OF PEYTON HERE TODAY.

IF IN GATE IS A FAMILY BUSINESS AND THE PROUD OWNERS OF GATE REPRESENTING 3500 EMPLOYEES, EMPLOYEES THAT HELPED GROW AND LEAD OUR BUSINESS FOR MANY YEARS.

GATE IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PRIVATELY HELD COMPANIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND WE OPERATE IN NUMEROUS INDUSTRIES IN EIGHT SOUTHEASTERN STATES. WE ARE A LOCAL BUSINESS.

WE ARE HEADQUARTERS HERE. WEIGH LIVE HERE.

WE WORK HERE. WE GIVE BACK HERE.

AND WE ARE ACTIVE IN THE PROPERTIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. WE USE THESE CLUBS ALL THE TIME.

THESE CLUBS WE ARE DISCUSSING LEGACY PROPERTIES FOR OUR FAMILY. IF THERE IS ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ MY FATHER'S BOOK "NEW BOY." HE TALKS OFDOWN IN KNEE IN BUSINESS AND PRIDE IN THE PONTE VEDRA CLUB. A BIT OF HISTORY, PURCHASED PONTE VEDRA CLUB BY STOCKTON. INCLUDED IN THE LAND THAT BECAME GUANA PARK. UNDEVELOPED BEACHFRONT.

AS A SIDE BAR, YOU 40TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ACQUISITION BY THE STATE AND TWO PEOPLE THAT MADE THAT HAPPEN.

HERB PEYTON, NEGOTIATING ON BEHALF OF GATE AND THE OTHER WAS HENRY DEAN. THANKS TO THEIR SUCCESSFUL NEGOTIATIONS 40 YEARS AGO, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PARK THAT WILL BE ENJOYED BEGIN RATIONS FOREVER.

I MENTION THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS IN THIS COUNTY, GOOD STEWARDS IN THIS REGION AND GOOD STEWARDS OF THIS CLUB PROPERTY. PONTE VEDRA IS APPROACHING ITS 100TH ANNIVERSARY. YOU ARE ONLY FIVE-STAR RESORT IN THE COUNTY. 35 YEARS.

A FOUR DIAMOND BUT BIG MILESTONES AND WE ARE PROUD OF THEIR HISTORIES. WITH THE PASSAGE OF TIME, CHALLENGES HAVE COME. AND THOSE INCLUDE RISING TIDES, MORE STORMS, MORE SEVERE STORMS, AGING FACILITIES, AMENITIES THAT QUITE FRANKLY ARE NOT COMPETITIVE IN THE HOSPITALITY SECTOR AND INADEQUATE PARKING. SO AS OWNERS AND MANAGERS OF THIS PROPERTY, WE HAVE A CHOICE. WE EITHER LET THESE CLUBS WITHER ON THE VINE AND BE SUBPAR. OR WE INVEST AND PREPARE THE CLUB FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS. OUR CHOICE AT GATE REPUBLICAN IS TO INVEST. SO IN 2018, WE CONSULTED SOME OF THE FINEST PLANNERS, ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS TO HELP SORT THROUGH THESE CHALLENGES. THE CHARGE FOR THIS TEAM WAS FAIRLY SIMPLE. NUMBER ONE, DEVELOP A PLAN THAT PROVIDES FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE MORE RESILIENT AND BETTER ACCOMMODATE TIDAL RISE AND STORM SURGE.

NUMBER TWO, PROVIDE AMENITIES THAT ARE COMPETITIVE IN THE HOSPITALITY AND ELEVATE OUR MEMBER AND GUEST EXPERIENCE AND MAINTAIN THE FIVE DIAMOND RATING.

NUMBER THREE, DEVELOP AN ATTRACTIVE SOLUTION TO OUR PARKING PROBLEM. FOUR, PHASE THIS PROGRAM OVER MANY YEARS WHEREAS TO MINIMIZE THE CLUB.

AND NUMBER 5 WHICH IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO ME AND OUR TEAM. DO ALL OF THIS WITHOUT CHANGING THE CHARACTER THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE PONTE VEDRA COMMUNITY.

THIS APPLICATION AS IT EVOLVES AND HAVE EVOLVED.

IT ACCOMMODATED THOSE GOALS. THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE HAD DOZENS OF OPEN HOUSES. MANY TOWN HALL MEETINGS.

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NUMEROUS HEARINGS. I SAT THROUGH 24 HOURS OF HEARINGS. SOME OF THOSE IN THIS ROOM HAVE DONE THAT WITH ME. BUT WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY. FROM THAT LISTENING OUR PLAN HAS GOTTEN EVEN BETTER. WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST THINKING THOUGHTS AND OBSERVATIONS FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND FOR OUR MEMBERS. SO OUT OF RESPECT FOR TIME, I AM GOING TO WRAP UP. BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS IS A GOOD PLAN. IT IS NOT A PERFECT PLAN.

THERE IS NO PERFECT PLAN. THERE ARE A LOT OF TRADE-OFFS WHEN A YOU TRY TO REDEVELOP A CLUB LIKE THIS.

BUT I THINK THIS APPLICATION, FIVE YEARS IN THE MAKING, IS THE PRODUCT OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF EXPERT PLANNING BY SOME OF THE BEST IN THE COMMUNITY. ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

WE KNOW WE TOUCHED LITERALLY THOUSANDS NEIGHBORS IN THIS PROJECT. I HAVE BEEN IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. I NEVER SEEN SUCH A ROBUST PROGRAM LIKE THIS. WE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS WITH YOUR TEAM AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

APPRECIATE THEIR TIME AND DIRECT INVOLVEMENT FROM YOU.

FOUR OF YOU HAD REALLY MEANINGFUL SUGGESTIONS TO MAKE THIS PLAN BIGGER AND INCORPORATED IN THIS PUD.

I THANK YOU EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

LAND USE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS COMPLICATED, BUT YOU PUT THE TIME IN. AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE TOUCHED THIS PROJECT ALONG THE WAY. WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS AGREED BUT I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT IN THE END.

I SAY LET'S GET STARTED. LET'S BUILD SOMETHING WE WILL BE PROUD OF. FUTURE GENERATION THAT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN CAN ENJOY OVER THE NEXT 100 YEARS. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. AND I WILL TURN IT BACK TO

ELLEN. >> THANK YOU, MR. PEYTON.

SO GETTING INTO THE BORING DE DETAIL. LET'S TALK WHERE THIS PUD IS LOCATED. GETTING TO THE PONTE VEDRA INN, THE PVIC PROPERTY IN THIS IS THIS PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED AND WHAT IS CALLED THE LODGE PROPERTY.

BOTH ARE OWNED BY PONTE VEDRA CORPORATION.

BOTH ARE OCEANFRONT RESORTS, HE HENCE, ONE PUD. AS MR. PEYTON JUST TOLD YOU WE ARE DEALING WITH A FIVE DIAMOND RESORT THE CENTER OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH FOR OVER 100 YEARS. IT IS A TREASURE AND WE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD IT EXISTS TODAY. SIMILARLY FOR THE LODGE AND CLUB FOUNDED IN 1989, A FOUR DIAMOND RESULTS.

YOU CAN READ FOR YOURSELF ALL THE ACCOLADES AND AWARDS THAT THESE TWO CLUBS HAVE BROUGHT TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WITH RESPECT TO PROPERTY TAXES, BED TAXES, EMPLOYMENT, SALES TAXES. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FINANCIAL WINNER FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY, HERE YOU HAVE IT.

DRAWING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE.

WITH RESPECT TO PUD, AGAIN, TWO PROPERTIES.

THIS IS CALLED THE PVIC PROPERTY AND INCLUDES ABOUT 80 ACRES.

THIS IS PROPOSED FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE INN & CLUB.

THE GOLF COURSE INCLUDED IN THE PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB ARE NOT INCLUDED WITH THE PUD BECAUSE IT IS NOT PROPOSED.

YOU WILL SEE ON THE MAP AREAS NOT PROPOSED FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF GOLF COURSE IN THIS PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE BEACH AND THE LAGOON AREAS.

SIMILARLY, FOR THE LODGE PROPERTY, TEN AND A HALF ACRES.

WE REMOVED HALF AN ACRE WHICH IS THE PALMER BUILDING BASED ON COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS. THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES WE HAVE MADE. WE WILL WALK THROUGH THE CHANGES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.

THERE IS NO DEGREE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LAGOON AND THE BEACH AREAS. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING OCEANFRONT LODGE AND THE FITNESS.

SO WHAT ARE THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THIS PROPERTY NOW? WE TALK A LOT ABOUT PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB AND START ON THE LEFT. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB.

YOU SEE IN THE RED COMMERCIAL. THIS HAS COMMERCIALLY LAND USE PROPERTY WHERE THE INN LIES AND SOME OF THE GOLF FACILITIES LIE.

THE DARKER BROWN COLOR THAT IS RESIDENTIAL D THAT NOT ONLY INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL USES BUT COMMERCIAL USES AND YOU SEE MANY OF THE OCEANFRONT LODGE AND RESORT FACILITIES IN THAT DARK BROWN COLOR. THE LIGHTER TAN COLOR IS RESIDENTIAL B AS IN BOY WHICH ALLOWS SINGLE-FAMILY USES AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL RELATED USES.

THIS IS WHAT EXISTS ON THE PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB PROPERTY TODAY.

SIMILARLY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE LODGE PROPERTY.

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DARK BROWN, RESIDENTIAL D. YOU CAN DO EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE RESIDENTIAL. AND COMMERCIAL ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND THEN YOU SEE WHERE THE OCEANFRONT LODGE BUILDING SITS ON THE RIGHT. RESIDENTIAL B, THAT IS A LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE FOR THE OCEANFRONT LODGE TODAY.

AND SO THAT -- THOSE ARE THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT SIT TODAY.

AND WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE LAND USE MAP WITH ONE EXCEPTION WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE. SO GOING TO WHAT CAN BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY TODAY UNDER THOSE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS? RESIDENTIAL B, UP TO TWO UNITS PER ACRE.

RESIDENTIAL D, UP TO EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE.

THIS IS FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SIMILARLY FOR NONRESIDENTIAL INTENSITIES, RESIDENTIAL B HERE ALLOWS FOR 70% IMPERVIOUS RATIO, WHAT ISR IS AND UP TO 50% FLOOR AREA RATIO WHICH IS F.A.R. IS. YOU SEE COMMERCIAL AGAIN.

COMMERCIAL LAND USE. 70% ISR.

70% F.A.R. HOTEL, MOTEL AND CLUB FACILITIES LOCATED IN RESIDENTIAL D. LAND USES, THE BROWN COLOR, 75% ISR.

70% F.A. WRCHLD. THIS IS FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TODAY. SO WHAT -- WHAT USES DO THAT PERMIT? SINGLE-FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT UP TO EIGHT UNITS, HOTELS, MOTELS, PRIVATE CLUB, NONRESORT RELATED COMMERCIAL INCLUDING RESTAURANTS, SERVICE STATIONS AND CONVENIENCE STORES, VETERINARY HOSPITALS AND OTHER RETAIL. THIS IS OUT OF THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS. VARIOUS NONRESORT RELATED OFFICE USES PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY TODAY.

SIMILARLY FOR THE ZONING MAPPINGS ON THE LEFT, THE PONTZ INN & CLUB PROPERTY. THE PINK COLOR IS COMMERCIAL.

GREEN COLOR IS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THE TAN COLOR IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE LITTLE PURPLE AREA IS RECREATION. SIMILARLY, ON THE RIGHT FOR THE LODGE PROPERTY, THE PINK COLOR IS COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS ZONING TODAY. THE GREEN IS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. AND THE TAN PART IS ACTUALLY O.R. BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY -- THE LODGE PROPERTY IS SPLIT INTO TWO JURISDICTIONS HAND THIS WILL BE IMPORTANT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION TODAY.

PART OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE PONTZ ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS. PART OF IT IS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH TWO CODES FOR THIS RESORT. SOFT SIMILARLY, THE USES -- THE SAME USES YOU SAW ON THE LAST SLIDE AND THESE USES ARE ON THE PROPERTY TODAY MORE VALUABLE THAN RESORT-RELATED USES.

WHY REZONE TO PUD. IT PROHIBITS THOSE THAT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT. NO SINGLE-FAMILY, NO MULT MULTIFAMILY, NO NONRESORT RELATED COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE USES. ONLY RESORT-RELATED ROOMS, OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES. ALLOW THE OWNER CERTAINTY AND THE COMMUNITY CERTAINTY AS TO THE FUTURE VIABILITY OF A FIVE DIAMOND AND FOUR DIAMOND RESORT IN THE HEART OF PONTE VEDRA BEA BEACH.

CENTRALIZED PARKING AND PROVIDES CERTAINTY IN LAND USE AND PREVENTS UNCOORDINATED DEVELOPMENT.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF WHERE WE HAVE BEEN.

AND MANY OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED IN YOUR EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR WELL OVER A YEAR.

THE TEAM SIT CAN BEHIND ME MASS BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS FOR EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO WE FORMALLY BEGAN MEETING WITH NEIGHBORS THIS TIME LAST YEAR, MET WITH COUNTY 1256, AND COUNTY STAFF, WE SAID TO THEM SHOULD WE DO A PUD.

ONE PUD, TWO PUDS OR A SERIES OF ZONING OR NONZONING VARIANCES.

DO ONE PUD. SAME OWNER.

SAME WAIVERS THAT ARE NEEDED. SAME DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

HENCE WE FILED THE PUD APPLICATION IN JANUARY OF 2023.

GOT THE FIRST STAFF COMMENTS IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.

WORKED THROUGH NUMEROUS REVISIONS TO THE PUD DOCUMENTS WHICH INCLUDE PUD TEXT, MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAPS WHICH INCLUDE HEIGHT ZONE MAPS, ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, COLORS AND MATERIALS AND A UNIFIED SIGN PLAN.

THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. SO WE PRESENTED TO THE PONTE VEDRA MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MAY MAY OF

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WE WENT TO PVR ON SEPTEMBER 6. THE PVR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE SURF AND SPORT CLUB AND OCEANFRONT RESORT ROOM BUILDINGS. SO THE ARCHITECTURE FOR THOSE BUILDING IN THE PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB PROPERTY HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY PVR. WE WENT TO PZAB ON SEPTEMBER 11 OF 2023. AFTER ALMOST 12 HOURS OF HEARING, PZAB VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 29 OF 31 OF WAIVERS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THIS PUD TEXT.

REMEMBER SOME ARE FROM PONTE VEDRA CODE.

SOME ARE FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE ONLY TWO WAIVERS THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF WERE IDENTICAL HEIGHT WAIVERS ONE FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ONE FROM THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT DISREGULATIONS.

WENT SEPTEMBER 21 TO THE PZAB WHO UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PUD. AFTER THAT HEARING, WE MADE SOME MATERIAL CHANGES BASED ON PZAB COMMENTS, BASED ON COMMUNITY COMMENTS, AND WE SUBMITTED THOSE BACK TO THE STAFF.

THEN WE BEGAN MEETING WITH THE FOUR OF YOU HAVE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MEETING WITH US, WHO WERE WILLING TO MEET WITH US.

WE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND MADE CHANGES BASED ON SOME THINGS RELATED TO THE CARLISLE. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WORKING WITH US ON BUILDING HEIGHT AND SEPARATION.

WE APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST YTALKING WITH US OF WIDER FRONT YARD SETBACKS. COMMISSIONER DEAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS OF MAKING SURE PUBLIC WAS AWARE OF FUTURE BUILDINGS ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLANNINGS.

AND COMMISSIONER ALAIMO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS OF REDUCING SOME OF THE BUILDING HEIGHTS ON THE PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB ITSELF. ALL OF THOSE CHANGES ARE BAKED IN THE PUD THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY AND THAT IS IN YOUR RECORD BEFORE YOU. AGAIN, EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. WE DON'T HAVE TO BELABOR THE POINT. SOFT GETTING INTO THE PUD DETAILS. AGAIN, PROHIBITS ANY NONRESORT-RELATED USES, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE RESORT. AGAIN, PROVIDES LEGAL NONCONFORMING STATUS FOR SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, WHICH WERE BUILT BEFORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BEFORE THE -- THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS WERE IN EFFECT.

IT GRANDFATHERS THE HISTORIC INN AND OCEANFRONT LODGE AND OTHER BUILDINGS. PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND ALLOW ON-SITE BUILDINGS THAT WRAP GARAGES AND UP SEE THAT IN A LITTLE WHILE.

AND ALLOWS REDEVELOPMENT OVER TIME.

THIS IS THE PHASING TABLE FROM THE P.U.D.

EVERYTHING THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW HAS BEEN REVISED DURING THIS PROCESS OF ITERATIVE CHANGES.

I WILL POINT OUT TO YOU, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION FROM THE PUBLIC. PHASE ONE INCLUDES THE EXISTING ROOMS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS NOT ALL NEW SQUARE FOOT AND AND NOT ALL NEW ROOMS. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WHERE IT SAYS TOTAL FOR ALL PHASES, THAT IS THE COMPLETE BUILDUP INCLUDING ANY RAISING AND REBUILDING OF STRUCTURES WITHIN BOTH PROPERTIES.

AND THEN TO THAT POINT, YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED IS LESS THAN HALF A MILLION SQUARE FEET. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING RESORT SPACE, THE PROPOSED RESORT SPOIS.

WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN THE NUMBER IMPOSED EXISTING ROOMS INTO SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT IS MEASURED IN ROOMS. COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES WITH SUARE FOOTAGE AND PARKING AND THE TOTAL SQUARE FEET. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EXISTING AND AT THE END OF THE DAY BUILD-OUT OF THE PROJECT 30 YEARS FROM NOW. SO I AM GOING TO INVITE M MISS HAGA AND MR. DAVIS TO COME UP HERE AND JOIN KNEE, BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPERT WITNESSES ON PLAN.

AND CIVIL ENGINEERING. >> THANK YOU, ELLEN.

GOOD AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD, LIN LINDSEY HAGA, TIMS AND MILLER, OLD ST. AUGUSTINE ROAD AND A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. I WILL WALK US QUICKLY THROUGH A SERIES OF SLIDE THAT ELLEN MENTIONED SOME OF THE ADDITIONS MADE THROUGH THE ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE RECEIVED. THE MAPS YOU WILL SEE ON THE

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ONE COMPONENT OF YOUR PUD. THEY HAVE BEEN REVISED TO SHOW IN THE DARK GRAY COLOR WHERE THE PROPOSED BUILDING LOCATIONS WILL BE, RIGHT. ADDING TO THE OUTLINES FOR SETBACKS, ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND OUR OPEN SPACE WE HAVE SMITHSONIAN IN OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP.

THIS GIVES US CONTEXT WHERE THE NEW BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND SOME COUNTY ELEMENTS -- THE BASIC ELEMENT IN DESIGN THAT WE SEE AND IMPROVEMENTS WE MAKE TO OUR PLAN REGARDING STARTING AT THE NORTH, 150-FOOT-WIDE GREEN SPACE LAWN ACROSS FROM THE INN WHERE WE ARE CORNERING IN OUR BUILDINGS TO PROVIDE IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS WITHIN OUR AREA AND OUR ACCESS POINTS ALONG THE BOULEVARD.

THE SAME THEN FOR THE LODGE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE SOUTH.

ONE. KEY ELEMENTS ALL THIS SEE QUICKLY AS ELLEN MENTIONED THE REMOVAL OF THE PALMER PIECE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE AREA HERE. FOR OUR NEIGHBORS ARE LOCATED WEST OF THE LAGOON, THAT MAINTAINS -- THOSE WERE SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT HEIGHT OR IMPACT TO THEIR SHED.

NOT PART OF THE PUD. THAT THOSE THAT LIVE WEST ALONG CORONA. NORTH TO SOUTH ON THE PROPERTY, WE SEE AGAIN IN THE GRAY LOCATION AND THE IMPROVEMENTS G- THAT WE MADE WITH SEPARATION AND PROPOSED AND THAT WRAPS OUR PARKING GARAGE TO THE EXISTING CARLISLE BUILDING.

THIS GIVES A HIGHLIGHT SINSET FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE

PLAN. >> LINDSEY, JUST TO PAUSE.

WE APPRECIATE THE FOLKS WITH THE CARLISLE WORKING WITH THE TEAM TO COME TO A RESOLUTION OF THIS. YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL FOR YOUR RECORD FROM THE CARLISLE CONDOMINIUM IN ADDITION TO THE PROJ PROJECT.

>> THOSE TWO -- THE PRIOR SLIDES WERE SHOWING IN GRAPHIC FORM.

THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE BLACK AND WHITE VERSION.

THOSE EDITIONS. THIS CARRIES FORWARD THE CHART AND ADDRESSES EACH OF THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE.

YOU START TO SEE THE CURRENT MAXIMUM LENGTH OF OUR BUILDING AND PROPOSED MAXIMUM LENGTH. NO CHANGE.

NO CHANGE, ETC. HERE IS WHERE WE ALSO SHOW THAT THESE BUILDINGS FROM BEEN APPROVED.

ARCHITECTURAL BY THE ARC IN LISTING FOR CIRCUMSTANCE CLUB, SPORTS CLUB AND OCEAN HOWLS AND ONE OF THE COMPONENTS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW IS BUILDING LENGTH AND ARCHITECTURE FENESTRATION AND REVIEWED BY ONE OF YOUR BOARDS. BLACK AND WHITE AND CHARTED VERSION. THIS IS GREEN, KIND OF GLAMORIZED TO BRING IT HOME WHERE WE CLUSTERED IN THE LARGER BUILDINGS TO THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE ON EITHER SIDE AND THE EXISTING CONDITION AS YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TO WALK THROUGH WHAT IS THE DESCRIPTION FOR BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT, ITS LOCATION AND CONTEXT FOR WHAT IT IS ALONG THE BOULEVARD AND THE SURROUNDING OPEN SPACE. LASTLY ONE OF THE ELEMENTS TO SHOW IT HAS BEEN MODIFIED WITH OUR PLAN IS INCREASING THE FRONT YARD SETBACKS. WE HEARD THAT THROUGH THE ADVISORY BOARD, OUR DIRECTION AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE NEW SETBACK. PROVIDES GREATER THAN WHAT WE ARE SHOWN BUT SOME OF THIS THAT WE WANT TO BRING OUT IN PARTICULAR IS HOW WE HAVE INCREASED THAT SETBACK TO WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE BUILDING RESTRICTION LINES.

SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ALONG THE BOULEVARD WHERE THAT IS FOR THE INN AND WHERE WE SEE WITH OUR COTTAGE PROPERTIES ALONG THE BOULEVARD AND PABLO DRIVE, THAT WAS A PARTICULAR REQUEST. TO BRING THAT HOME WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THERE ON THE GREEN SITES FOR OUR COTTAGE RESORTS. WE NEED TO KNOW THIS IS HOW OUR HOMES WILL BE USED IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND EXPERIENCE ON THE PROPERTY AND ANY CHANGE TO MODIFY INTO A LARGER RESORT BUILDING WILL REQUIRE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT HAND THIS EXPERIENCE WILL BE THE SAME FOR US.

THAT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ALSO BE OUR RESORT COTTAGES AND WATCHING AND MIRRORING THE BUILDING RESTRICTION LINE THAT YOU FIND WITHIN THE PLAT AND WE GET THAT OUT OF THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING CODE. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO

MR. DAVIS -- >> ONE NOTE TOO, LINDSEY, IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED -- OR I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE EVE A REPORT FROM ALEX CRA EBERG WHO OWN AS HOUSE AND BUILDING A LOT AT 307 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD.

THE CLOSEST PROPERTY OWNER TO THE YELLOW-COLORED LOT.

THE 20 FOOT -- THE 20-FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK AND REDUCED BUILDING HEIGHT AT 305 WAS DONE IN RESPONSES TO HIM AND IN COORDINATION WITH HIM. AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HIS HELP AND GOOD NEIGHBOR CHARACTER.

>> IF ADD AFTERNOON, BRAD DAVIS, PROCESSOR, CIVIL ENGINEER.

CELEBRATING 40 YEARS. SUPER PROUD TO BE IN PART OF

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JOHNS COUNTY. I GET THE PLEASURE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT. I KNOW THAT IS A TOUGH TOPIC.

I KNOW IT IS A DIFFICULT TOPIC AS IT RELATES TO UNDERSTANDING.

WE HEARD THAT THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.

AND I HOPE TODAY WITH THIS PRESENTATION, THINGS WILL BE MORE CLEAR AND WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT OF A SOMETIME. WHY DID WE CHANGE THE DEFINITION FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE? WELL, IT IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

DEP IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAVE HEIGHT THAT DICTATES OUR LOWEST LEVEL OF OUR FINISHED FLOOR EMVATION IN YEARS TO COME.

I CANNOT PREDICT NOR CAN YOUR STAFF PREDICT OR ANYONE ELSE PREDICT WHAT THAT WILL BE. WE HAD TO BUILD FLEXIBILITY INTO IT. PER THE PUD WE DEFINED THE BUILDING HEIGHT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION TO THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.

THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION, THE FIRST TIME A GUEST OR MEMBER CAN OCCUPY A SPACE IS IN AN INHABITABLE AREA.

THE TOP OF THE BUILDING, ANY APPENDAGE, ELEVATOR SHAFT.

LITERALLY FROM THE TOP. FROM THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION TO THE TOP OF THE BUILDING IS HOW WE BEGIN THE BUILDING HEIGHT. YOU MAY SAY HOW DO YOU GET TO THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION? WELL, I AM GLAD YOU ASKED.

THREE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT PRESCRIBE OR CONTEMPLATE HOW TO GET TO THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION.

FEDS WITH FEMA, THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND THAT IS, OF COURSE, ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS WELL. BEFORE WE GO INTO THE DETAILS, I WANT TO REMIND YOU WE HAVE SEVERAL BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY THAT EXCEED 35 FEET.

THEY EITHER PREDATE THE CODE. MR. PEYTON SAID THAT A MINUTE AGO. THIS HAVE A 100-YEAR-OLD PROPERTY. OTHER CASES WE RECEIVED WAIVERS LIKE THE OCEAN HOUSE MAYBE FROM SOME OF YOU TO GET THAT EXTENDED HEIGHT. ALL OF THESE STRUCTURES THAT ARE HIGHER AND LINDSEY JUST SHOWED YOU AS WELL, INTERIOR TO THE BUILDINGS. INTERIOR TO THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN -- THAT THE PEYTONS OWN. OR ARE ADJACENT TO OTHER SIMILAR-SIZED BUILDINGS SUCH AS THE LODGE.

I JUST REALLY WANT TO TAKE TIME TO THANK DICK AND BEN AND YOUR STAFF, YOUR ENGINEERING STAFF, THAT WALKED WITH US THROUGH THIS PROJECT. THEY PUT THIS DIAGRAM IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GO THROUGH THIS DIAGRAM. FEEL FREE TO COME UP AND FILL IN THE GAPS. I WILL TRY TO GO QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE LIMITED ON TIME. FEMA IS THE BOTTOM BLUE LINE ON THIS PAGE. START WITH THE VERY BOTTOM.

OH, THERE IT IS. THE BOTTOM BLUE LINE.

THIS FEMA LINE IS ALSO KNOWN AS A VELOCITY FLOOD ZONE.

THE VELOCITY FLOOD ZONE EXISTS BECAUSE A OCEAN NEXT TO US.

ANY TIME A TIDAL OR OCEAN A VELOCITY FLOOD ZONE.

LOWEST STRUCTURAL NUMBER TO BE TWO FEET BE FLOW THAT.

WHAT IS WHAT BEN'S DIAGRAM SHOWS, FEMA PLUS TWO FEET.

THEN AMAZING WAVE THAT STARTS AT THE VELOCITY FUN ZONE TO THE CREST OF THIS WAVE, DEP MAKES THIS RECOMMENDATION.

NOT SOMETHING THAT US AS A CONSULTANT OR YOU AS STAFF, DEP MAKES THE JUDGMENT AND CALLS OUT THE CREST OF THE WAVE WHICH ALSO DICTATES THE LOWEST HORIZONTAL STRUCTURAL MEMBER.

EITHER OF THE TWO WILL DO IT. THE MOST STRIKE GENT OF THE TWO, SPAINLT ST. JOHNS COUNTY OR DEP WILL LOOK AT THE LOWEST STRUCTURAL NUMBER. BEAMS AND OTHER STRUCTURAL ITEMS THAT COME INTO PLAY. LOWEST STRUCTURAL ITEM AND THE FINISHED THAT WE CONTINUE CONVERSATION MOMENTS AGO.

INTENTIONALLY SKIPPED SOMETHING. SIX FEET.

MR. DEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.

THERE WILL SHALL SEA LEVEL RISE. THERE WILL BE GLOBAL WARMING.

AND THERE IS STUFF THAT WILL INFLUENCE THE DEP IN THE FUTURE.

I CANNOT TELL YOU IN THE FUTURE WHAT THIS ELEVATION WILL BE.

SO WHAT WE DID IS ADDED SOME VARIABILITY INSIDE THE TEXT AND WE SAID WE WILL AS AN APPLICANT GO NO HIGHER THAN SIX FEET ABOVE WHAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY WOULD REQUIRE LET ME SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. WE WILL GO NO HIGHER THAN WHAT SIX FEET HIGHER THAN WHAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY WOULD REQUIRE.

LET'S PUT THIS INTO A REAL WORLD APPLICATION BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THIS. GO TO THE OCEAN HOUSE THAT THIS BOARD APPROVED IN 2017. REAL WORLD EXAMPLE.

PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD ATOR. >> STATE 10.

THE GRADES AROUND THE HOUSE SPANNED FINISH OF '18.

NOT A DECISION THAT GATE MADE TO GO TO 18.

DEP.MANDATE THAT WAVE CREST AT 18.

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THAT WAVE CREST IS AT ELEVATION 15.

WE ADD THE STRUCTURAL GRADE BEAMS TO IT AND MANDATES.

WE HAVE NO CHOICE OF THE MATTER. NONE.

FOR THIS BUILDING, WE WENT UP 40 FEET TO GET TO THE TOP THE TOP ELEVATION IS ELEVATION 58. TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR TO STAFF, THE COMMISSION AND YOU, THE PUBLIC, TWO DIFFERENT HEIGHTS.

THE BUILDING HEIGHT PER THE PUD DEFINITION WHICH IS 58 FE FEET MINUS 18 THAT IF I WAS US 40 FEET BUT SO WE ARE ALL CLEAR, ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL SAY 45 FEET AND SUBTRACT 58. WE ARE TALKING OF A DIFFERENCE OF FIVE FEET. THAT IS THE DELTA.

WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR. THE DELTA BETWEEN THE CODE AND PUD. TAKE IT FROM EXISTING TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH OF THE OCEAN HOUSE. WE CALL IT THE SURF CLUB.

FAMILIAR NUMBERS IN HERE. PONTE VEDRA IS 10.

THE GRASS BESIDE IS 13. DEP MAKES US HAVE 15.

NOT SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL. OUR FINISHED FEBRUARY OPERATION IS 18. WHAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR IN THE PUD IS A HEIGHT OF 54 FEET. 18 PLUS 54 GIVES US THE TOP ELEVATION OF THE SURF CLUB IN CASE IS 7.

TRANS TRANSPARENCY, LOOK BESIDE THAT DIMENSION, YOU SEE 59 FROM THE TOP OF FROM THE ELEVATION TO THE GRADE. THAT IS THE DELTA.

ON THE WEST SIDE OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD, WE NO LONGER HAVE TO DEAL WITH DEP. WE ARE BACK TO NORMAL LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE WAY IT LOOKS TODAY.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PUD HEIGHT AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUILDING HEIGHT DOMINUS. ONE FOOT.

SUBMITTED A TABLE INSIDE THE STAFF REPORT WHERE YOU WILL SEE THIS AS WELL. WE GO JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH, AND WE KNEW AND IT WE HEAR FROM THE CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS AND AS MR. PEYTON SAY, WE HEAR, WE LISTEN AND WE TRY OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE CONCERNS. THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS.

IN THIS CASE WE HEARD THAT IN THE CATASTROPHIC EVENT THAT THE HURRICANE HIT AND DEMOLISHED IT AND HAD TO REBUILD IT, TALK THAT THE ENTIREINN WOULD BE 54 FEET. NEVER OUR INTENTION.

BUT TO PROVE THAT, OUR COMMITMENT TO YOU ON THIS SLIDE AND THE MVP. I BELIEVE MVP ROF 12.

IF WE HAVE TO REBUILD IT, THE HALFTONE PART OF THE BUILDING.

IN FULL TRANSPARENCY. A BALLROOM COMING, BALLROOM EXPANSION, HAND THIS WILL ONLY 3B 3 /* -- 32 FEET IN HEIGHT WHICH IS HOW WE PERFORM THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE LODGE, I WANT TO SHOW YOU ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE THIS IMAGE DOES A VERY GOOD JOB.

THE PURPOSE AREAS. THIS IS FIVE HIGHEST WELCOMES.

SURROUNDED BY PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN, BUFFERS THROUGH LAGOONS OR ADJACENT TO THE END WHICH IS ALREADY 54 FEET.

THESE PROPERTIES WITH THESE HIGH HEIGHTS ARE INTERIOR TO OUR LAND HOLDINGS. AS WE MOVE TO THE LODGE IN A SIMILAR FASHION AND METHODOLOGY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CONSISTENT.

LET'S WALK THROUGH THIS. THIS IS THE RESORT AND FITNESS CENTER WE ARE PROPOSING AT THE LODGE.

IT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY OF D.E.P. OR VELOCITY FLOOD ZONES.

HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT. PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD IS NOW AT 11. ADJACENT GRADE -- I WILL SAY THE GRASS THE EASIEST WAY, OUR FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION WILL BE AT 13. SO 13 PLUS THE 55 WE ASKED FOR IN THE TEXT WILL GIVE YOU THE ELEVATION OF 68.

9 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PUD DEFINITION AND THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ONE FOOT, DIMINIMUS.

VERY, VERY CLOSE. ELLEN MENTIONED JUST A MOMENT AGO WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE CARLISLE BOARD AND THEIR MEMBERS AND THEIR RESIDENTS AND COME TOP RESOLUTION WITH THEM -- TWO RESOLUTION TO BE DES SCRIPT.

LINDSAY MENTIONED A 50-FOOT BUILDING SEPARATION FROM THE CARLISLE TO THIS PROPOSED STRUCTURE.

WE DID THAT AND WE ALSO AGREED TO LOWER THE STRUCTURE.

SO NOW, THE TOP OF THE GUARDRAIL PER OUR CONVERSATION IS 38 FEET.

IN IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH T THE PVIC PARKING STRUCTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE. THE TOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE

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SIZE OF THE BUILDING. >> AGAIN, THIS WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESIDENTS OF THE CARLISLE.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS OF

PONTE VEDRA BY THE SEA BEHIND. >> ABSOLUTELY.

LAST BUT LEAST, THE EXISTING LODGE ON THE OCEANFRONT.

SIMILAR SLIDE TO THE PONTE VEDRA HISTORIC I BENN.

TALK THAT IS A CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE CAME AND THIS WAS DESTROYED THAT IT WOULD BE BUILD IS ALL 255 FEET AND HIGH AND UGY IS SAID FROM ONE OF OUR OPPONENTS.

THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTION. TO SHOW THE HEIGHT PROFILE ON THIS SHEET ONLY ACCOMMODATE WHAT DEP WOULD HAVE US CHANGE.

>> TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE JUST TO NOTE, THE CARLISLE BUILDING WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AT 65 FFEET LIKE VERSUS LIKE AND BUILDING HEIGHTS BEING COMPATIBLE OF THE RESORT AND THE LODGE RESORT. SO TO WRAP IT UP, BECAUSE I KNOW TIME IS GETTING SHORT. SO I AM NOT GOING TO READ THESE TO YOU, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK WITH THE UNDERLYING BOARDS. WE RECOMMEND THERE ARE -- WE APPRECIATE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE INCORPORATED ALMOST ALL OF THEM INTO THIS PUD TEXT.

AND MAPS AND ARCHITECTURE AND UNIFIED SIGN PLAN.

SO AS LINDSEY TALKED ABOUT THE 155-WIDE OCEANFRONT GREEN SPACE.

ELIMINATING THE MONUMENT SAID BECAUSE ANOTHER ATTORNEY IN PONTE VEDRA WHO ASKED FOR THAT ON BEHALF OF HIS CLIENT.

SO WE TOOK THAT MONUMENT SIGN OUT AND REDUCED SKWAERT FOOTAGE OF THE LODGE. TOOK BUILDINGS OUT OF THE OCEANFRONT TOP REDUCE THAT BUILDING HEIGHT.

AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC MEMO THAT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE.

SO WITH THAT, I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SHARE WITH YOU.

AND I WANT YOU TO JUST SEE WHAT THE VISION IS BASED ON THE APPROVED ARCHITECTURE, THE SETBACKS, THE BUILDING HEIGHTS AND EVERYTHING THAT IS EMBEDDED IN THIS PUD DOCUMENT SET.

AND I APPRECIATE TYLER KNOWING HOW TO RUN I.T.

♪ ♪ SO THIS IS ACTUAL VIDEO. THE ARCHITECTURE FOR THE NEW BUI BUILDING.

♪ ♪

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MAY HAVE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MISS AVERY SMITH WITH FOUR MINUTES TO SPARE.

NOW WILL BE ANY TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR ANY MEMBER OF THE APPLICANT'S TEAM TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND MAKE COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YES, I WANT TO CLARIFY SO EVERYTHING IS ACCURATE ON THE RECORD.

SO YOU SAID STAFF SAID -- GAVE YOU TOLD YOU TO DO ONE PUD THAN

SPLIT IT INTO TWO PUDS? >> YES.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: IS MIKE ROBERSON IS HERE? HE TOLD ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT. JUST FOR ACCURACY.

BECAUSE I WAS IN THE MEETING AND MR. ROBERSON WASN'T.

AND I CAN HAVE MISS HAGA AND MR. DAVIS COME UP AND TESTIFY AS WELL. WE MET WITH JACOB SMITH, THE PONTE VEDRA PLANNER AT THE TIME. THAT IS WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE. MR. ROBERSON WAS NOT THERE.

JUST FOR THE RECORD. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MR.

ROBERSON. >> YES, MIKE ROBERTSON, GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.

IT IS TRUE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT MEETING IF THAT WAS A SUBSEQUENT MEETING. I CAN SAY WE HAD INITIAL COMMENTS DURING THE FIRST SUBMITTAL WHICH MISS AVERY SMITH IS FAMILIAR WITH AND THAT STAFF INDICATED THAT TWO PUDS WILL PROBABLY BE BEST; HOWEVER, I CAN'T SPEAK IF THERE WAS A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

>> THAT WAS THE MEETING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THE PUD APPLICATION, AND LIKE I SAID I HAD OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WITH ME. MR. JACOB SMITH WAS YOUR PONTE VEDRA PLANNER. WE SAT DOWN AND SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE HAVE HANDLED OCEAN AND PEYTON HOUSES WITH ZONING AND NONZONING VARIANCES AND HOW SHOULD WE HANDLE THAT. WE SPENT AN HOUR, AND LANDED ON RESORTS OWNED BY THE SAME COMPANY AND NEEDING SIMILAR WAIVERS FROM THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CITY CODE. >> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, LET ME SAY THIS. THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO PURSUE EVEN DESPITE WHAT STAFF SAID, IF IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION, IF WE DON'T HAVE A CODE TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO BREAK OUT YOUR PUD, IT IS THE APPLICANT'S CHOICE. WE HAD INITIAL SUGGESTION.

THEY HAD CONSEQUENCES SUBSEQUENT TO THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS

ACCURATE. >> YES, MA'AM JO JIE THE PZAB APPROVAL OF THE PUD. HOW MUCH OF THE PROPERTY -- IF YOU CAN SHOW ME WHAT PART OF THE PROPERTY OF P.Z.A.B. APPROVED.

NOT THE ENTIRE PUD? >> THE BZAB'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PUD.

YES, IT WAS. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: WHAT IS

THE PROPERTY THEY RULE ON? >> I UNDERSTAND AND WE WILL HAVE TO GET OUR POWERPOINT BACK UP. HOLD ON A MINUTE.

CAN WE SWITCH BACK TO THE POWERPOINT PLEASE? SORRY. I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING. GIVE ME A MINUTE.

SO WHILE I AM GOING TO THIS. I WILL SAY TWO THINGS.

THE PORTION OF THE LODGE PROPERTY THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE THAT IS OPEN RURAL, BUT I WILL SAY, ALSO, THAT THEY -- THAT THE PZA IS THE EXPERT BOARD ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT -- ST. JOHNS COUNTY

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS WELL. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: MA'AM, THAT WASN'T PART -- I WATCHED IT.

I WATCHED THE 11 HOURS. I WATCHED THIS.

I WATCHED EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE MSD.

THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T SEE WAS THE ARC.

A VERY IMPORTANT PART. I WANT TO MISLEAD PEOPLE IF THEY APPROVED THE WHOLE THING. THE ONLY REASON I AM BRINGING IT UP. I WANT IT TO BE ACCURATE.

>> LET'S SAY THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PUD WHICH IS THEIR MOTION. SO WHAT IS YOUR NEXT QUESTION?

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THE OTHER ONE IS REGARDING THE USING HOUSE AND THE CABANA CLUB. EVERYONE IS APPROVED BY HEIGHT FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR OUR COUNTY.

AND SEEN WITH THAT YOUR HEIGHT FOR OCEAN HOUSE WAS JUST FINISHED AND SUSTAINABLE WAS 43 FEET AND CABANA:CLUB 41 AND

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THEY FINISHED A MONTH AGO, TWO MONTHS AGO.

SO WHEN YOU DO ALL THIS CONFUSING LAND DEVELOPMENT HEIGHT, THE WAY YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT, YOUR HEIGHT AND OUR HEIGHT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND I JUST THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU STICK WITH OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SO THAT THE SAME WITH 4 FEET. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT FEMA BUT ADD SIX FEET, FEMA AND DEP REQUIREMENTS.

THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT ALL THE GRADE.

ALL THE DETAIL I JUST HEARD. I WANT TO SIMPLIFY THIS.

BECAUSE I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, I BELIEVE THAT YOUR STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS, AGAIN, IN THE RECORD FOR THIS HEARING. IT STARTS ON PAGE 31.

AND GOES THROUGH PAGE 35. AND IT TALKS -- THIS -- YOUR STAFF TALKS IN GREAT DETAIL ABOUT HOW DE PESHGZ AND FEMA PARTICULARLY PLAY IN ON THE MMI MEASURE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE STAFF REPORT.

>>THE LAW IS THE LAW. LET ME FINISH PLEASE, YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ONLY ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT GOVERN WHERE BUILDINGS HAVE TO START. AND THAT IS MY LAYMAN'S TERMS AND WE CAN GET MY EXPERT WHO IS MR. DAVIS WHO IS A CIVIL ENGINEER UP HERE. BUT FEMA AND DEP ALSO HAVE A SAY IN WHERE BUILDINGS HAVE TO START TO BE SUSTAINABLE AT THEIR BASE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YOU JUST FINISHED IT UNDER THE LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> MR. DAVIS TESTIFIED TO YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO FOR MORE THAN TEN MINUTES.

AND HE IS OUR EXPERT. AND WE CAN HAVE YOUR EXPERTS COME UP HERE TOO TO TALK ABOUT WHY THEY HAVE FOUR PAGES WORTH OF EXPLANATION OF BUILDING HEIGHT IN THIS STAFF REPORT.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: BUT NOT BY OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,

THAT'S CORRECT? >> YES, IT IS BY YOUR LAND

DEVELOPMENT CODE. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO, IT IS YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OFF THIS CHANGED THE HEIGHTS.

>> NO. IT IS A -- THERE IS A

DIFFERENCE. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THAT'S

FINE. >> WE ARE TALKING OF A PUD.

THE PUD HAS A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF HEIGHT THAN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THE REASONS THAT MR. DAVIS

TESTIFIED. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NOW THE ONLY OTHER THING IS, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

I AM NOT AGAINST REMODELING, I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL, THE FIVE-FOOT SETBACKS OF THE GIANT BUILDINGS.

YOU GO OUT IN THE ROTUNDA. THAT IS 40 FEET.

YOU STAND IN THE VERY MIDDLE OF THE ROTUNDA.

HERE IS MY RULER AGAIN. FIVE FEET IS -- THIS FAR SETBACK OFF OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. THE SURF CLUB AND THE SPORTS

CLUB. >> THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT CORRECT.

IF YOU READ YOUR STAFF REPORT. SEVERAL OF THE CHANGES WE HAVE MADE TO THE PUD TEXT IN THE LAST I WILL SAY FOUR WEEKS.

THE ONLY BUILDING THAT HAS A FRONT-YARD SETBACK OF FIVE FEET NOW IS THE SURF CLUB WHICH IS GOING TO BE WITH THE SAME FRONT YARD SETBACK AS THE EXISTING SURF CLUB.

THAT BUILDING KNEES FIVE FEET. ANY OTHER BUILDING AND LOOK AT YOUR -- LOOK AT YOUR STAFF REPORT AND LOOK AT THE PURD TEXT, THE LATEST VERSION. EVERY OTHER BUILDING HAS AT

LEAST A TEN-FOOT SETBACK. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THE SPORTS CLUB HAS A TEN-FOOT SETBACK?

>> THE NEW SPORTS CLUB. PART OF THE PUD MAKE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE LEGAL NONCONFORMING USES.

THOSE ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE PUD.

SO ANY BUILDING THAT TODAY HAS A FIVE-FOOT FRONT-YARD SETBACK IS VESTED FOR THAT FIVE-FOOT F FRONT-YARD SETBACK.

BUT THEY WILL MEET THE NEW REQUIREMENTS IN THIS PUD TEXT IN

YOUR STAFF REPORT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MISS AVERY SMITH, I GUESS I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND REALLY JUST SEEKING CLARIFICATION ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE I LEARNED IN SEVERAL OF OUR MEETINGS THAT WE ARE SORT OF AS A COUNTY MEASURING HEIGHT FROM THE LOWEST ESTABLISHED GRADE, BUT EVERYTHING FROM IT THE LOWEST ESTABLISHED GRAVE TO THE FIRST FINISH FLOOR IS REALLY GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENTS ON WHERE -- WHERE YOUR FIRST FINISHED FLOOR CAN START.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY?

>> I WILL LET BRAD WHO IS OUR EXPERT TALK ABOUT THIS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MR. DAVIS, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT

CORRECTLY? >> YOU ARE VERY CLOSE.

THE ONLY CAVEAT THAT THE PROJECTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. THOSE THAT ARE SUBJECT TO DEP.

SUBJECT TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS. IF YOU WERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARDS, YOU WILL NOT SUBJECT TO THE FLOOD ZONE OR

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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MAKES TOTAL SENSE. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I WILL JUST POINT OUT FOR ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE STAFF'S REPORT ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 30 THROUGH PAGE 34, YOU CAN FIND ALL THE DETAIL OF WHAT THE HEIGHT IS AND HOW IT IS MEASURED.

A GREAT DEAL. I THINK OUR STAFF DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF PUTTING THIS INFORMATION INTO EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR THEIR TEAM? ALL RIGHT.

IF NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, WE WILL MOVE SNOOT ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY PRESENTATION.

MADAM VICE-CHAIR, PLEASE PUT 20 MINUTES ON THE CLOCK.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. BENNETT REPRESENTING THEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERCAN BE IN FOR THE RECORD, JOHN BURNETT, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP.

MAIN STREET. 37 CLICKER.

I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF APPEARING HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF RETIRED ADMIRAL TIM JENKINS WHO IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS.

IF YOU HAVE SEEN ANY OF THE OTHER HEARINGS TALKING IN TERMS O RAISING CONCERNS. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS -- AND A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS A GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SOME RENOVATIONS THAT SHOULD OWE OUR AND IMPROVEMENTS SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE.

HOW FAR FROM THE NEED TO THE WANT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, PV ARC VOTED AGAINST THE OVERALL PUD AND WASN'T AT THAT ARC IN FRONT OF THEM. PART OF THE PUD, NOT THE TRADITIONAL ARC. P ZAB VOTED 4-3 AGAINST.

AN ISSUE WHERE THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE SAID I MISREPRESENTED. 4 4-3 VOTE, RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FROM PZAB. STAFF HAS CONCERNS.

IT IS 234 YOUR STAFF REPORT. WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT.

THIS IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING YOU HAVE SEEN IN 30 YEARS IN THIS PONTE VEDRA AREA. FOR THAT REASON, SO MUCH ATTENTION GIVEN TO IT. SO MANY PEOPLE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND WHY YOU SHOULD REQUEST THE DETAIL.

THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT IS BEING ASKED THE RENDERINGS, THE VIDEO AND THE MEAT AND POTATOES IN THE TEXT.

YOU DON'T HAVE A DETAILED MAP WHICH IS A PROBLEM I THINK.

WHY IS IT SO COMPLEX. WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE SETBACKS. A LIST OF THE HEIGHTS AND VERY SIMPLE APPLICATION. IT IS ACTUALLY NOT THAT LONG OF A PUD TO DEAL WITH. AND WE HAVE ISSUES SUCH AS THE INTERPRETATION. THEY ARE REQUESTING TO USE A SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO REDEFINE YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. AND ESSENTIALLY THEY WANT TO FILL IN THIS SECTION. THE RED AND WHITE CROSSHATCHED TO MAKE IT COMMERCIAL BY INTERPRETATION.

ALSO ON THIS SECTION WHERE THE LODGE IS, RESIDENTIAL B, THEY WANT TO FILL THAT INTO THE OCEANFRONT BY USING THE SIMILAR TYPE METHOD. YOU LOOK AT THIS SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT HAS THE BCC EVER DONE THIS? HAS THE COUNTY EVER MADE THIS INTERPRETATION FOR THIS KIND OF USE? ESSENTIALLY MAKES NONCONFORMING USES OKAY JUST BY INTERPRETING THE COMP PLAN.

NOT ACTUALLY HAVING A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO EX-PEN AND THE BOUNDARY OF THE --E AND THE BOUNDARY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. PORTION OF THE PUD FOR THAT REASON AND ALSO BY THE DAY YOUR STAFF IF YOU GO ONLINE, LOOK AT THE COMMENT ON AUGUST 34, SAYS STAFF DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT'S USE OF THAT EXCEPTION OF THE POLICY TO MAKE THE INTERPRETATION. THAT IS ACTUALLY IN YOUR STAFF COMMENTS ON THE ONLINE SYSTEM. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT A WAIVER TO THE COMP PLAN SECTION. I DON'T BELIEVE I CAN WAIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SECTIONS AND WAIVER RELATED TO THAT IN THE PUD TEXT. I HEARD A PEOPLE INCLUDING THE PZAB. PEOPLE COMMENTED WE WOULD LIKE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CLUB MEMBERSHIP.

I AGREE. PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, I GET THAT. BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR SO MANY WAIVERS WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION. WHAT WILL TO DO THEIR NUMBERS TO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHY THERE IS JUSTIFICATION FOR THE 30 WAIVERS

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LOOK AT THE STANDARD. WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.

THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS HAVE ACTUAL STANDARDS THAT INTEREST IN THERE.

AND IT IS DIFFERENT. THE BURDEN ON THERE TO PROVE THESE SIX ITEMS. AND WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THEM IS, IS THIS REZONING COMPREMEN TREE AND SUPPORTIVE OF SURROUNDING USES INTERESTING BECAUSE ANYONE WITHIN 600 FEET NEED TO BE COMPLIMENTARY AND SUPPORTIVE AND A DIFFERENT STANDARD THAN THE USUAL STANDARD HERE AT THE BCC WHERE IT IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE. NO NOT CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE IS THE TEST IT IS COMPLEMENTARY AND SUPPORTIVE THAT IS THE TEST.

A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES WITHIN 600 FEEL FEET.

INTERESTING THING OF THE SIX FAC FACTORS IT IS NOT IN YOUR STAFF REPORT NO DISCUSSION OF MOUNTAIN-FOOT VOMDING USES AND NO MAP SHOWING YOU WHERE THEY ARE. BY THE WAY THEY ARE LARGELY RESIDENTIAL. THEY ARE CLEARLY GOING TO BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED. YOU WILL MOVE PICKLE BALL COURTS, TENNIS COURTS CLOSER TO PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE NO -- BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO MDP MAP.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE DUMPSTERS ARE GOING.

THEY CAN PUT THEM WHEREVER THEY WANT TO PUT THEM.

THE USES THAT WILL BE ADVERSE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING USES.

NO REAL LOCATION OR WAYS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ARE AT.

AND THE WEIGH PAY IN THEIR TEXT. A SECTION ON PAGE 21 TALKING ABOUT IT AND NOT ADDRESSING ANY OF THESE SIX FACTORS.

THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKET. I THINK YOU ALL WERE SENT THIS.

SENT BY E-MAIL. OUTLINE BY ADMIRAL JENKINS AS FAR AS HIS HOME OWNERSHIP. HIS LENGTH OF TIME.

HE BOUGHT HIS MOTHER'S HOME IN 1986.

AND HE AND MISS WIFE HAVE BEEN THERE AND RAISED THEIR CHILDREN THERE. THAT IS THEIR HOME WITH THE AMERICN FLAG ON IT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

THEIR CONCERNS. YOU KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN A RESIDENTS OF PONTE VEDRA SINCE 1977, SECOND GENERATION.

MOM'S HOME. GOT THE DEED.

09 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. CONSTANT ENCROACHMENT OF PVIC.

THE THREE HOUSES THAT THEY WILL INCLUDE IN THE PUD TO THE SOUTH.

ONLY ONE HOUSE SEPARATING THEM NOW TO WHAT WILL BE RESORT USES.

YOU KNOW THE SPA TOOK OVER 302 AND 305 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE END OF IT.

AT-GRADE PARKING WAS THE BIG DISCUSSION IN THAT TIME PERIOD.

THEY PURCHASED 301, 303 AND 305 SKIP TO SHOW WHERE YOU IS THE REAL END OF THIS IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTY, 304 WHERE THE LAB IS IDENTIFYING. THE JENKINS HOME.

DIAGONALLY WHERE 302 AND THE PARKING LOT, THAT IS THE SPA.

THIS WAS AN IMAGE WE PULLED OFF OF EITHER IMAP AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IN THE 2005 IMAGE. RELATION TO THE SPA WHERE THE JENKINS HOME IS. THE RED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OUTLINES WHERE THE THREE HOUSES ARE BEING INCORPORATED INTO THIS POD. THOSE THREE HOURSES ARE A GREAT SEPARATOR AND BUFFER BETWEEN THE JENKINS HOME AND THIS COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY WHICH NOW COMES DOWN TO THEM WITH ONLY ONE HOME SEPARATING THEM. I WILL COME BACK AND SHOW YOU WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

YOU KNOW -- BY THE WAY, THAT'S RESOURCE USES.

SO WHEN THEY -- IF THEY -- WHEN THEY WANT TO TEAR THOSE THREE HOMES DOWN, THEY BECOME RESORT USES THOZ ON THOSE THREE SITES WHERE THE WAY THE PUD TEXT IS WRITTEN.

ALSO WHERE THE PARKING GARAGE. ONE LEVEL IS GOING.

CURRENTLY WHERE YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT, THIS IS WHERE THE PARKING GARAGE IS GOING IN PROXIMITY TO THEIR HOME.

AGAIN GOING BACK TO FIVE-FOOT SETBACKS.

TEN-FOOT SETBACKS. ON THE NORTH WE WILL HAVE BEACH SERVICE AREA FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE BEING SERVED OUT ON THE BEACH, WHICH OBVIOUSLY BRINGS MORE INTERACTION FROM THEM -- WITH THEM AND MORE ACTIVITY IN THEIR BACK YARD.

AND IN THOSE RESORT AREAS, THEY CAN HAVE KIOSKS, MOBILE CARTS, VEHICLE SALES, COOKING EQUIPMENT, SUCH AS TRUCKS, BUSES, PAVILIONS, TENTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

FOOD TRUCKS GO ONE HOUSE SEPARATING THEM FROM THE

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THESE THREE HOMES SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS PUD.

THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T. NEITHER SHOULD THE HOME ON THE NORTH THAT HAS THE SAME POTENTIAL OF SPREADING UP TO THE NORTH AND GOING TO THE NORTH. THEY CLEARLY SAY THAT WHEN THEY -- YOU KNOW, SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF TEN FEET ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF A PARCEL. THAT IS WHAT THE SIDE YARD WILL BE BE. IF THE EXISTING HOME IS DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED BY A RESORT USE.

YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS, TEMPORARY RESORT USES.

TEARING DOWN THE BUILDINGS AND BUILDING THES IN BUILDINGS.

THEY CAN USE ITS AREA THESE THREE HOUSES.

THEY CAN PUT A POOL ON IT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THOSE PARCELS.

ANOTHER THING IS, AIR CONDITIONING GUARD HOUSES, ANY NUMBER OF USES THIS. GAZEBOS, NETTING, GOLF COURSE SAFETY. IF THEY -- I WOULDN'T THINK THEY WOULD PUT A DRIVING DRIVING RAIN TLJ.

IF THEY WANTED TO, THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN.

WHY SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE THERE IF THEY HAVE A DETAILED MAP, THOSE THINGS WOULDN'T BE A CONCERN.

GOING BACK TO SOUTHWEST COLLECTION AND DUMPSTERS HAND THIS KIND OF PROBLEMATIC ISSUE WHILE WE ARE LOOKING AT SETBACKS AND BUFFERS, DEFINED, THE OWNER WILL BE PERMITTED FOR SIDEWALKS, CART PATHS AND GOLF COURSE HOLES BEEN THE PERIMETER BUFFER.

SIDEWALKS AND GOLF CARTS IN THE PERIMETER BUFFER.

THE SOUTHERNMOST PART OF YOUR PROJECT, A SIDEWALK COMING AROUND TO LOOP YOUR PROJECT. IT WILL MAKE SENSE.

WHEN ULTIMATELY THESE THREE HOMES ARE ADDED TO THE RESORT AND THEY DO WHATEVER YOU DO WITH THEM, A SIDEWALK LOOP.

THE DETAILS THAT ARE MISSING. AND MAKE SURE FOLKS THAT ARE PROTECTEDED FROM WHAT WILL GO ON AROUND THEM.

YOU KNOW, THEY ARE -- THE PROPERTY ALREADY CONTAINS TENNIS AND PICKET BALL COURTS. WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IS RELOCATE. CLOSELY WHERE THE SPORTS CLUB IS LOCATED THEY WILL INTEND TO TAKE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND MOVE IT TO THE SOUTH AT MIRANDA ROAD. WHAT HAPPENS IS.

THIS IS WHAT THE REVIEW IS NOW. THE LOW IMPACT, LOW ACTIVITY STRUCTURE THAT IS NOW GOING TO GO TO PICKLEBALL COURTS WITH LIGHTING, NIGHTTIME LIGHTING, PICKLEBALL COURTS, TENNIS COURTS AND THE LIKE. YOU KNOW THERE ARE SETBACKS ARE GREATLY REDUCED. THEY ARE GOING FROM A 25-FOOT SETBACK THAT IS THERE RIGHT NOW, IF WE GO DOWN TO THE LODGE, JUST TO JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT, AND THEY WILL TAKE IT DOWN TO 10 FEET ON THE FRONT. ABOUT 25 FEET AS I SCALE IT ONLINE. ALL OF THOSE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA TO THE SOUTH OF THEM APPEAR TO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE SETBACK THAN A MERE TEN FEET.

THIS, AGAIN, GOES BACK TO WHY ARE WE REDUCING SETBACKS.

AND THEN, AGAIN, NO DETAIL ON THE MDP MAP.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS NOT SHOWN ON 9 M EVERMDP MAP.

I NEVER HAD A PROJECT YOU COULD DO THAT ON.

AND THEN LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE WAIVERS.

STAFF REPORT. THEY SAID 16.

THERE WERE ACTUALLY 30 WH WHEN PB ARC REVIEWED IT.

WHY SO MANY OF THEM? I THINK THERE ARE MORE WAIVERS NEEDED. I WILL COME BACK TO IT.

YOU PUT IN A WAIVER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH VARIANCE.

EVERY TIME THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH AN EXPANSION THEY HAVE TO DO A VARIANCE AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

WHY IS THAT? A HIGHER LEVEL.

THIS ISN'T THE REST OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THIS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT. WHY AN OVERLAY DISTRICT BECAUSE PONTE VEDRA. A SPECIAL PLACE.

A SPECIAL PLACE AND A PLACE OF SPECIAL CONCERN.

A PLACE WHERE YOU WANT ADDITIONAL TRIERMENTS PROTECT WHAT IS THERE, THE NATURE AND CHARACTER OF IT.

NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. PRESIDENT PROBLEM WE HAVE NOW IS A BROAD BRUSH PAINTS A PICTURE THAT NOW WILL BE IN PLACE FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS FOR THIS PUD THAT LIMITS THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO EVER FUTURE PULL IT BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT DIDN'T GO EXACTLY HOW WE WANT IT. AND THIS IS A GREAT TEAM.

IT IS A GREAT OWNER. I AM NOT GOING TO STAFFED HERE AND ADVOCATE ON MY CLIENT'S BEHALF TO TELL YOU ANYTHING DIFFERENT, BUT THE REALITY IS, THE CONTROLS ARE THERE AND WE

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I NEED THIS WITH THIS REASON. THAT IS NOT HERE.

PARKING GARAGE IS AN INTERESTING THING.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A LIMIT ON THE LIMIT OF PARKING GARAGES AND. WITHOUT AN MDP MAP, TO HAVE A PARKING GARAGE HERE AND THERE. AND THAT ONE IS THIS MANY SQUARE FEET AND THIS HEIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

AND THAT LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY. AND THE ONE I READ IT IS 525 FEET TALL AND LET ME GO BACK TO -- WHAT IS A COUNTY ASK TO WAIVE? WE ARE TALKING OF WAIVING SETBACKS. THERE IS NOWHERE WHERE WE GET THEM ALL ALIGNED. SO I AM GOING TO.

AND APPEAR WAIVER HERE AND WHAT AND WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR.

SETBACKS. WHAT THE COUNTY ASKED TO WAIVE.

THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING. AND FOR A TWO-STORY BUILDING 50 FEET. ON THE LODGE THEY WANT 10.

ON THE SURF CLUB THEY WANT FIVE. SIDE YARD SETBACK 20 FEET.

SIDE IS 10 FEET ON THE PVB. ADJOINING SITES.

30 FEET PER ONE STORY AND 50 FEET FOR TWO STORY.

THEY SAY IN THEIR, THEY CAN DO 20 FEET WHEN THEY TEAR THE HOUSE THERE IS THAT WILL BE 20 FEET. SO THEY CAN DO MULTISTORY STRUCTURE AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE A 50-FOOT BUFFER, FOR EXAMPLE.

ACCESSORY USES. THEY WANT TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF ACCESSORY USES BEYOND THE SEVEN FEET.

THEY DON'T SEE HOW HIGH. HE WANT TO EXCEED IT.

WAIVER TO HEIGHT, WHAT REASKING FOR.

PZAB LIMITATIONS ARE 35 FEET AND TWO STORY.

THEY HAVE AS WE KNOW THIS VERY COMPLEX AND UNLIMITED AMOUNT.

FIVE STORIES IN A 50-STORY STRUCTURE.

I MEAN A 50-FOOT-TALL STRUCTURE, FIVE STORIES.

APOLOGIZE. THE MOST EWE MAKE ANY IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTY OF HOW THEY ARE TALKING OF MEASURING HEIGHT. NORMALLY HOW HIGH DO YOU NEED FROM EXISTING GRADE. THEY ARE MEASURING FROM FEMA.

I DON'T KNOW IF HAS EVER BEEN DONE.

AND LET ME SKIP THROUGH THIS FOR TIMING.

I THINK YOU NEED A PH.D. TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING WHEN YOU READ THIS IN THEIR PUD TEXT.

IT IS VERY SPLIT COMPLICATED AND HARD TO READ THE WRITING.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW STAFF WILL ADMINISTER THIS OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. TURNOVER OF STAFF.

THE ONLY PROJECT IN THE COUNTY WHERE WE WILL HAVE THIS UNIQUE MEMBERSHIP. WE HAVE A COUNTY THAT FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER IS ON THE OCEAN.

WE HAVE A COUNTY FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER WE CAN ALL MEASURE ESTABLISH GRADE. THE REASON WE HAVE ESTABLISHED GRADE IS SO PEOPLE DON'T BUILD A MOUNTAIN TO HAVE A HOUSE LARGER THEIR THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO WE HAVE A FOOTING ON WHAT THE HEIGHT IS. IF THINK OF A TALLER STRUCTURE FIVE FEET TALLER THAN THEY ARE SAYING MEASURE IT THE SAME BECAUSE YOU ARE SETTING THE COUNTY UP FOR FAILURE NOT MEASURING IN A HEIGHT THAT THE COUNTY STAFF.

AND AN EXPERT SAYS THE FEMA IS MOVED TO THIS AND THE STAFF TIME AND ADMINISTRATION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH IT.

CALL IT WHAT IT IS. WHATEVER THE HEIGHT IS.

LET'S GET TO IT. BY THE WAY YOUR RESIDENCE.

35 FEET MEASURED FROM THE GROUND.

THEY DO A STEM WALL UP IN ORDER TO GET TO FEMA.

THAT STEM WALL CUTS INTO THEIR OVERALL HEIGHT.

THEIR STRUCTURE, WILL GET ADDITIONAL AMOUNT BEFORE THEY GO TO THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT WHATEVER THAT IS MASS AND SCALE, STAFF HAS CONCERN AND UNCLEAR AND THE PUD WITH THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO BE DETERMINED. THE AFFECT ON THE HEIGHT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. PIB DENIED IT.

SIZE AND SCALE. STAFF HAS CONCERNS OF BUILDING BUILDINGS 100 FEET IN LENGTH. I HAVE MASS AND SCALE DRAWINGS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, WHERE IS THE STOP TO PREVENTS THIS FROM HAPPENING. WE CAN ALL XHUKLE ABOUT IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS A WHERE IS THE LANGUAGE.

WHERE IS THE MAP THAT PREVENTS THIS FROM MAPPING.

I WILL TOWNSHIP THROUGH SOME OF THESE BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE

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YOU CAN EASILY DO FOUR STORIES IN 50 FEET.

IS THAT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT? ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE CHANGE THE NAY OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARDS. TO GO BACK TO THIS, I HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT THIS DRAWING, BUT IF YOU TRY TO PUT YOUR SPACING TO IT. YOU COULD END UP WITH A WALL OF BUILDINGS 20 FEET ON ONE SIDE. FIVE FEET IN PORTIONS.

WHERE IS YOUR REAL MOVEMENT OF BUILDINGS BACK WITH THE PONTE VEDRA INN & CLUB. FINALLY LET ME SKIP THROUGH HERE. PARKING -- VERY QUICKLY.

THIS IS A SETBACK THAT IS CURRENTLY IT THERE A HOUSE BEING BILT THERE AND THEY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED SOME COUNTY WAIVERS.

FROM THE PD ZONING LIMITATIONS AND IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I STEAL A COUPLE OF MINUTES OF MY TIME NOW.

I WILL SHORTEN MY TIME FOR THE REB

REBUTTAL. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: TWO MORE

MINUTES FOR MR. BURNETT. >> THIS IS MISSING FROM THE PUD.

YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND THEY ARE NOT AND THEY HAVE WAIVERS.

THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE INCLUDED.

AND THAT IS MISSING. AND SETBACKS ON CORNER LOTS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORNER LOT DEFINITION IN SUBSECTIONS G.

AND AND REQUIRE THAT THE 35 FOOT SETBACK.

ON THE CORNER 35 FOOT ON THAT PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD AND MIRANDA DRIVE. THEY DON'T HAVE WAIVER REQUEST TO THIS REQUIREMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THEY WILL PUT THEIR PARKING GARAGE. THIS WAIVER WHERE THIS ADDITIONAL DASHED LINE IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN -- THEY ARE ALSO MISSING A WAIVER RELATED TO HOTELS BECAUSE THEIR DEFINITION IN PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS DEFINE HOTELS WHAT THEY CALL A RESORT DEFINES HOTELS AND DOESN'T INCLUDE THE THREE HOUSES.

THEY HAVE TO CALL IT IN THEIR TEXT THAT THEIR HOTEL, MOTEL AND THREE HOUSE OUT THREE HOUSE TOTS SOUTH AND THE NORTH SHOULD BE LEFT OUT AND FINALLY THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.

ANYBODY GIVE AN OPINION OF THE DOLPHIN COVE AREA AND WILL TRANSFER OVER AND BE CAPABLE OF HAVING ADDITIONAL HEIGHT IN THE AREA. ONE OF THE MORE BROAD SWEEPING THINGS. MAYBE NOT AS SIGNIFICANT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AS IT WOULD BE IN THIS PARTICULAR PART, BECAUSE IT IS PONTE VEDRA AND WE HAVE OVERLAYS.

WE HAVE THE PALM VALLEY AND THE PONTE VEDRA OVERLAY.

WITH THAT I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MR. BURNETT FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FROM THE BOARD FOR MR. BURNETT? MR. BURNETT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. JUST AS IT RELATES TO THE HEIGHT. YOU HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE HEIGHT.

DIDN'T THE EMBASSY SUITES OUT IN ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH DUE TO FEMA WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT THE OCEAN CAN PRESENT.

>> IT IS IN THE VELOCITY ZONE. I AM NOT SURE IF ANY PART OF THE PONTE VEDRA PROJECT IS IN THE VELOCITY ZONE.

I KNOW A PORTION OF THE EMBASSY SUITES SITE WAS ON THE VELOCITY ZONE. I AM NOT AN EXPERT TO SPEAK ON IT. BUT PART OF IT WAS IN A VELOCITY

ZONE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, HAS THE EMBASSY SWEETS DIMINISHED THE CHARACTER OF ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH IN ANY WAY?

>> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SURROUNDING USE THAT WERE DIRECTLY NEXT TO IT OR ADJACENT TO IT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MR. BURNETT.

>> BUT I ASSUME NOT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU.

NEXT WE WILL HAVE FOUR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES WHO WILL BE ALLOWED TEN MINUTES APIECE.

THE FIRST WILL BE MR. WILLIAM HARRIS.

MR. HARRIS? I AM NOT SEEING MR. HARRIS.

MR. HARRY BECHTEL. OR PERHAPS DR. BECHTEL.

NOT SEEING HARRY BECHTEL. THE NEXT IS JANE RAULERSON.

ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PZAB. >> I THINK I WILL TALK FROM HERE. I JUST PRESS THIS BUTTON -- BECAUSE I WILL USE THIS OVERHEAD FOR SOME OF MY --

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: PUT IT RIGHT ON THE CIRCLE.

>> JANE RAULERSON, PONTE VEDRA BEACH, FLORIDA.

I AM A MEMBER OF THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD IN MY THIRD YEAR. IT'S CALLED THE PZAB BY ALL OF

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I WILL GIVE YOU A REPORT OF OUR MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 11.

AND DIDN'T APPROVE THE PUD AND TALK ABOUT AMENDMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDED PUD. ON SEPTEMBER 11, WE MET FOR 11 HOURS TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION THAT WAS FILED AT THAT TIME.

IT HAD 31 WAIVERS. 12 OF THE WAIVERS WERE APPROVED AS WRITTEN. 17 OF THE WAIVERS WERE APPROVED WITH AMENDMENTS. AND TWO OF IT THE WAIVERS WERE DENIED. THE P PISHGZBZAB RECOMMENDED THAT THE REZONING INTO A PUD BE DENIED UNTIL SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS OR SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES WITH THE APPLICATIONS WERE RESOLVED. OF THOSE 17 WAIVERS THAT WERE APPROVED WITH AMENDMENTS, THE APPLICANT DID NOT FOLLOW THROUGH ON FOUR OF THOSE. THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PIZAB WAS TO DENY THE REZONING INTO A PUD UNTIL THE ISSUES WERE RESOLVED. WHAT WERE THE ISSUES: BUILDING HEIGHT DEFINITIONS, BUILDING HEIGHT REQUESTS AND SETBACK REQUESTS. DURING THE BOARD DURING OUR 11-HOUR MEETING, WE DID NOT DISCUSS ISSUES IN I DID TAIL WHAT WAS REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE PUD.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL TAKE UP THIS CHALLENGE. TODAY I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON FOUR AREAS OF THE CURRENTLY FILED APPLICATION.

BUILDING HEIGHTS INCLUDING DEFINITION OF BUILDING HEIGHTS, SETBACKS, THE SPA PARKING GARAGE, AND ADDITIONAL EXPANSION OF THE PUD IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

BUILDING HEIGHTS AND DEFINITION. IT IS SAID BEFORE ME, ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATION USE THE SAME DEFINITION, MEASURING BUILDING HEIGHT.

ALL CITIZENS IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH, ALL BUSINESSES, ALL CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY USE THE SAME DEFINITION. BUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THEIR OWN DEFINITION, WHICH, ACCORING THE STAFF, WOULD ADD AT LEAST 10 FEET IN HEIGHT TO THEIR STATED REQUEST.

AND I WILL PUT THIS SLIDE UP HERE FOR THE FORS ONE.

I HOPE YOU CAN SEE IT. IT IS HARD TO READ.

WHOOPS, IT IS UPSIDE TOWN. LET US TALK TO IT FOR A SECOND I PUT IN THE FIRST AND LAST COLUMN AND WHAT THE STAFF REQUESTS OF THE PUD AND WHAT THE ACTUAL LIGHT HAD BE BASED ON THEIR BUILDING DEFINITION THE FIRST REALLY NAMES THE BUILDINGS, WHAT THEY USE IN THEIR OPTION, PEOPLE MOSTLY KNOW THEM BY EXISTING CONDITIONS . WITHOUT READING THROUGH THIS, I WENT TO THE CONDITIONS. THE DEFINITION ADDS ABOUT 10 FEET IN BUILDING HEIGHT. THERE ARE NO EXISTING CONDITIONS ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY OR THE LARGE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR ABOUT 2% OF THE HISTORIC AND THAT BUMPS UP OR 43 FEET . NO EXISTING CONDITIONS.

I THINK IT'S EASIER TO LOOK AT THIS BASED ON THIS MAP. THIS MAP SHOWS THAT THE ZONING CODE ALLOWS FOR 35 FEET AND THEY HAVE AN OCEAN HOUSE AT 43 FEET . IT IS A YELLOW DOT IN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS. THE BLUE DOTS BY WATER IN THE APPLICATION. 43 FEET, 40 FEET, 54 FEET. IF YOU TAKE WHAT OUR STAFF DID , I PUT THE ACTUAL HEIGHTS IN RED DOTS. SO IT IS NOT 40 FEET, IT IS 50 FEET. IT IS NOT 34, IT IS 64. THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. IF YOU THINK OF 35 FEET WHICH IS ALLOWED IN OUR ZONING CODE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, LOOK AT THE CEILING.

MAYBE THERE ARE THREE OF ME. DOUBLE THAT. ON TOP OF A 35 FOOT BUILDING. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. IN EXISTING CONDITIONS , I TOOK THAT FROM -- THIS WAS IN THE PACKET. IT HAS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. OLD OCEANFRONT BUILDINGS ARE 32 TO 39 FEET . THE ALLEN HOUSE IS ACTUALLY 38 FEET BASED UPON THE SURVEY , NOT 45. ONLY THE MIDDLE OF THE HISTORIC AND POPS UP AT THE CONFERENCE CENTER IS 28.

EXISTING CONDITIONS . THE SURF CLUB IS 43 AND THE GYM IS 49.

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I TRIED TO USE THE SAME KIND OF TABLE AND I DID MY BEST. I DON'T HAVE A PHD IN THE STUFF, BUT I WISH I DID. IT HAS TO BUILDING THE FIRST CALM AGAIN. IT HAS WHAT IS REQUESTED IN THE PUD. FIVE FEET, 10 FEET, 20 FEET, 40 FEET. THIS COLUMN IS THE EXISTING CONDITION AND I TRIED MY BEST TO , BASED UPON DEPICTIONS AND APPLICATIONS WITH THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE, I THINK THESE ARE DIRECTIONALLY CORRECT. IT LOOKS LIKE EXISTING CONDITIONS ACTUALLY ONLY HAVE THE SURF CLUB THAT IS NOT A EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT WOULD APPLY WITH THE ZONING CODE .

THERE ARE NO EXISTING CONDITIONS EXCEPT FOR THE SURF CLUB WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT IS ABOUT 15 OR 20 FEET. SO IT IS NOT AT FIVE FEET TODAY. SO THEREFORE THE APPLICATION WAIVER ON SETBACK SHOULD BE AMENDED THAT ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATIONS HAVE A SETBACK AT THE LESSER OF EXISTING CONDITIONS OR THE CURRENT OVERLAY DISTRICT ZONING CODE. SPOT PARKING GARAGE. IT WASN'T CLEAR THAT THE APPLICANT INTENDED TO BUILD A PARKING GARAGE OVER THE CURRENT SURFACE PARKING AT THE SPA WHEN WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION. IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME AT THAT POINT. SO THE APPLICANT IS INCLUDING THIS ON THE MAP. THIS PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH AND ACROSS THE LAGOON ON THE WEST SIDE , THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY COMES WITH THE CONDITION FOR SURFACE PARKING ONLY. ORDER 00-004 IN SEPTEMBER OF 2000 BLOCK THREE LOTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE. EXPANSION OF COMMERCIAL ZONING UPON THE BEACH. IN 1991 THE COUNT RESUMED 23 PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THE CLUB ON THE NORTH FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL TO PREVENT ANY ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL OCEANFRONT BUILDINGS. IN '99 AND 2000, THE COUNTY APPROVED ZONING REGULATIONS FOR COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY TO COME INTO ALIGNMENT WITH RESIDENTIAL. 35 FEET BUILDING.

THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW IT WAS GIVEN APPROVAL FOR 65 FEET AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT WAS ALLOWED THEN. THEY WERE NOT GIVEN APPROVAL, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. THEY WERE NOT GIVEN VARIANCE. SO THE EXPANSION OF COMMERCIAL ZONES.

IN 2023, JUST NORTH OF US, JACK SPEECH, 83% OF RESIDENTS VOTED FOR 35 FOOT BUILDING TO NOT GO TO 55, THE KEY FOR 35 FEET. THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR ANNEXING THE RESIDUAL PROPERTY SOUTH UPON THE CLUB AND ANNEXING THREE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON POPLAR DRIVE INTO THE P.O.D. MULTIPLE SUBSTANTIAL WAIVERS ARE THE SAME ST. JOHNS COUNTY COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND MOST OF US SHOULD NOT HAVE EXISTING CONDITIONS TO JUSTIFY THE WAIVERS. SO THE CONDITION OF THIS PUD SHOULD BE NO MORE PROPERTIES GETTING ANNEXED INTO IT. THIS IS IT. SO IN SUMMARY, TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER APPLICATION, SHOULD BE AMENDED SO THE DEFINITION OF HEIGHT IS THE SAME AS IS WHAT IS IN THE DEVELOPING CODE AND DISTRICT REGULATIONS. THE CAMPUS SHOULD HAVE NO NEW BUILDINGS OR RENOVATIONS EXCEEDING 43 FEET IN HEIGHT . THE LARGE CAMPUS SHOULD HAVE NO NEW BUILDINGS OR RENOVATIONS EXCEEDING 35 FEET EXCEPT FOR THE EXISTING OCEAN BUILDINGS. PARKING IN FRONT OF THE SPA REMAINS SURFACE PARKING AND NO FUTURE ADDITIONS TO THE PUD.

THE LARGE COMPANY PROPERTIES ARE NOT STANDALONE. IF YOU PUT THAT UPON THERE? THIS SHOWS THE IN IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. IT IS NOT STANDALONE. THIS IS THE LODGE.

IT IS SURROUNDED BY THOSE PROPERTIES . I ALMOST FINISHED.

THE WHAT ME TO SIT DOWN OR CAN I HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS? THANK

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THE ZONING BOARD. THANK YOU. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE WILL BE SURPRISED. THE RED CIRCLES WITH THE HEIGHT. IS THAT THE LOWEST ESTABLISHED GRADE? HOW ARE YOU MEASURING

THE HEIGHT IN THOSE RED BUBBLES? >> THIS IS WHAT THE STAFF HAD IN THE REPORT TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS . THIS WAS A PRESENTATION HE GAVE TO US ON THE APP. 43 FEET ON PAYTON, THE OCEAN HOUSE, THE SPA, THE INN AND THE ISLAND HOUSE SAY EXISTING STRUCTURE HEIGHT.

THAT IS FROM THE LOWEST AND THAT IS THE DEFINITION AS IN OUR CODE. THE LOWEST ESTABLISHED GRADE. TO GET CONSISTENCY, I TOOK WHAT THE STAFF DID FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE RED BUBBLES MAKE IT CONSISTENT. SO INSTEAD OF 40 FEET, IT IS 15. SO THE PAYTON AND OCEAN HOUSES ARE 43 , WHICH OPENED THREE YEARS AGO.

AND THIS WOULD BE 50 FEET. THIS WOULD BE 64 FEET. AND MY POINT OF 35 FEET AT TWO CEILINGS OF THIS IS ABOUT HOW HIGH WE ARE GOING. THE SECOND IS YOUR QUESTION?

>> YES, PERFECTLY. I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU LOSES SPROCKET -- YOU LOOK AT THE PRODUCT FOR 11 HOURS. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU ARE CONTINUING TO DO.

>> IT WAS 11 HOURS OF MEETING AND 40 HOURS OF REVIEW AND WRITTEN BEFORE THAT. APPRECIATED, THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS -- ABSOLUTELY. NEXT IS ELAINE. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> BEFORE I START, I REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION THAT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND TO THE OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE 20 MINUTES, BECAUSE I LIVE WITHIN 600 FEET AND IT SAYS IF YOU LIVE WITHIN 600 FEET FOR YOUR STRUCTURE IS WITHIN THAT LIMIT, I AM REQUESTING I AM ALLOWED 20 MINUTES TO DO THAT. I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THAT. SO ALLOW ME TO HAVE A 20 MINUTES AND I'M ASKING IF YOU WILL BE WILLING TO DO THAT COMMISSIONER? THE VOTE IF YOU LIKE. WE HAD A MOSTLY BACK-AND-FORTH THE OTHER NIGHT AND I AM DECLINED TO REFER TO THE COUNTY.

>> I'M ASKING FOR REASON BECAUSE IT SAYS IF YOU'RE WITHIN 600 FEET YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED , SO I'M ASKING. IF I AM IN THAT , WHILE MEN ARE AT THE IMPACT WHEN I AM REGISTERING AS ADVERSELY IMPACTED AS A PERSON? IN THE DISTRICT OVERLAY IT IS 600 FEET. SO I REQUEST MY RIGHT TO SPEAK AS A DULY ADVERSELY IMPACT A PERSON. SO I AM ASKING YOU TO OVERSTEP THAT AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AS THE COMMISSIONER.

>>> THEY WILL HAVE CORRESPONDENCE WITH YOU ABOUT

THAT TOPIC. >> I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO

ALLOW HER 20 MINUTES. >>

>> I AM WITHIN 600 FEET. >> WE HAVE BEEN COMPENSATING ABOUT THIS BY EMAIL FOR A WEEK AND A HALF. THE BEACH REGULATIONS DO NOT CREATE THE RADIUS FOR ADVERSELY IMPACTED .

THE 600 FEET NUMBER IS MORE TO LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY OF SURROUNDINGS AND THAT IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE AN ISSUE FOR WHAT QUALIFIES AS ADVERSELY AFFECTED . BESIDES THE BRITISH

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>> YOU HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.

HAVE 10 MINUTES. >> ALL RIGHT. THE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATION SAYS THAT IT IS MANDATORY. THE DISTRICT IS SUPPOSED TO COMPLY. AND IT DOESN'T COMPLY ON SO MANY LEVELS SUCH AS THE HEIGHT AND DENSITY. VARIANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BY HARDSHIP AND MUST BE REQUIRED TO EXHIBIT A HARDSHIP AND CANNOT BE BASED ON FINANCIAL LOSS OR EASE OF CONSTRUCTION. THE REASON THAT MR. PAYTON LISTED QUALIFIES UNDER THAT.

RESILIENCY IS NOT AN IMPACT. IT IS NOT BEING RESOLVED BY HAVING TALLER BUILDINGS. YOU COULD GO TO ANY COASTAL ENGINEER AND ASKED IS A TALLER BUILDING CREATE RESILIENCE. IT DOES NOT ENHANCE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE PER THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY STAFF, IT'LL HAVE DOMINATING VIEWS FROM ROADWAYS OR ADJACENT BUILDINGS. YOU HAVE A 64 SETBACK. IS NOT ENHANCING THE CORRIDOR AND HAS ADVERSE IMPACT TO PROPERTIES WITHIN 600 FEET. IT'LL BE THE TALLEST BUILDING IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND IS ESSENTIALLY INCREASING THE SUGGESTION. THE TRAFFIC STUDY -- I HAVE A 2017 COUNTY TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SUPPORTS MY FINDINGS AND SHOWS THAT THE SEGMENTS ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED AND THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT THAT SHE SPOKE TO YOU ON THE OTHER HALF. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW. TO ARTICLE FIVE, PUD SHALL COMPLY AND BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN AND THIS IS NOT BEING CONSISTENT AND COMPLYING. THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS GOING BACK TO 2017 COUNTIES STUDY BUT YOU GUYS SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IS SHEER. THERE ARE SEGMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY FAILING AND CAN CONTINUE TO FAIL , SO I ASK YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT THAT AND I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH IT. THE PUD IS 5 TO 10 YEARS IN REGULATION OF ARTICLE FIVE. 30 YEARS BEING REQUESTED. THIS IS A BLANK CHECK FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO CASH. IS THAT THE LEGACY YOU WANT TO LEAVE AS A COMMISSIONER? THE EXPLANATION OF BENEFIT OF WAIVERS SHOULD BE PROVIDED.

SHALL MEANS MANDATORY. IT CANNOT BE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP OR RETURN OF INVESTMENT AND CANNOT BE IN EASE OF CONSTRUCTION. THESE ARE NOT VALID FOR VARIANCE OR A WAIVER AND OVERLAY. YOU DON'T HAVE A DETAILED SITE PLAN AND HAVE TWO UNIDENTIFIED BUILDINGS THE STAFF HAS OUTLINED. HOW CAN YOU DO A MDP IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT? WE HAVE 43 FEET AND THREE STORIES.

IT IS NOT PROVIDING RESILIENCY AND THIS IS MORE RISK AND DENSITY AND TRAFFIC AND IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN. THE TRAFFIC STUDY I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT AS TO THE STAFF COMMENT -- THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES -- THIS IS JUST ME. THE HOMES SHOULD BE PLACED THE PUD. THERE IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL AND IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY. YOU HAVE BEEN GOING FROM CORONA BOULEVARD AND TYING INTO PROPERTIES A MILE AND A HALF AWAY AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS. YOU ARE JAMMING IN A FOR AREA RATIO BASED ON 80 ACRES A MILE AND A HALF AWAY. HOW DOES THIS WORK? SPEAKING TO 64 FEET, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THE BUILDINGS WILL BE AT 64 FEET . IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MANY STORIES AND THIS IS VERY AMBIGUOUS. STAFF HAS CONCERNS OF BEING ABLE TO MEASURE ON PAGE

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IF YOU WANT TO LOOK TO SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY OR IN THE COUNTY, THIS IS THE ELEMENT HOTEL AT THE CORNER OF THIRD AND BEACH BARRED. THAT IS A 35 FOOT HIGH BUILDING JUST FOR SCALE. THIS IS THE VERANDA AND WE ALL KNOW THIS ONE . IT IS A 40 FOOT BUILDING AND HAS 57 TO 60 FOOT SETBACK LAYER. YOU HAVE FOUR FLOORS OF PARKING GARAGES THE ROOF AND 65 FOOT TALL BUILDINGS. 414 FEET LONG IS NOT IN THE CODE. THIS IS THE TRAN06" THAT HAS A SETBACK OF 180 FEET FROM HERE TO THE BOULEVARD. FROM THAT FOUNTAIN IT IS ALMOST 45 FEET.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF THEY CAN REBUILD THEY HAVE A 40 FOOT SETBACK. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET TALL THAT WOULD BE. THIS ONE IS THE SURF CLUB. ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IS EXISTING WITH THE SETBACK. YOU HAVE 51.58 HERE , 77 FEET FROM THEIR , THIS IS THE SURF CLUB AND I SEE WAY MORE THAN A FIVE FOOT VARIANCE ON THE SETBACK. HERE IS -- I FORGOT WHAT THAT ONE IS. WE ARE BASING ALL OF THIS ON A RENDERING. THAT IS WHAT IS BEING SUBMITTED BY THE INN FOR EVERYTHING. THIS IS THE DAILY PLACE. WITH THE COMMITTEE VOTED IN DEUEL COUNTY BASE OFFER A RENDERING. THAT IS WHAT THEY GOT. SO WE WILL BASE A RENDERING AND WILL GIVE THAT TO THEM TO COME DO THAT. A RENDERING IS NOT ENFORCEABLE IN A COURT OF LAW. SETS OF PLANS ARE FOR THE COURT OF LAW. THESE ARE 50 BEACH TOWELS I PICKED UP ON THE BEACH NOT COUNTING ALL THE TRASH I PICKED UP. THAT WAS JUST ON LABOR DAY WEEKEND. SO GOING BACK TO THIS , STAFF HAS CONCERNS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MEASURE. YOU HAVE AN INCREMENTAL MDP. THE LACK OF SPECIFICITY AND HOW MANY STORIES AND HEIGHT AND MEASURING , NOBODY ELSE MEASURES FROM THESE.

THEY MEASURE FROM THE SAME. IF RESILIENCY IS AN ISSUE, WHY DOESN'T THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GET IT? WE ALL HAVE TO STAY WITH HIM 35 FEET AND TWO STORIES. WE HAVE 43 FEET AND THREE STORIES . ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE DOWN THE BOULEVARD AND HAVE THAT. THE CHARACTER AND APPEARANCE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT NOT BE COMPATIBLE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE MINIMAL SETBACK AND THIS IS A LARGE STRUCTURE WITH A COMMITTAL HEIGHT AND LENGTH. IT MIGHT DOMINATE THE VIEWS OF ROADWAYS. YOU ARE PUTTING ON SOMETHING WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IF YOU ARE DOING THIS TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, YOU NEED TO DO IT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS NOT ADDRESSED IN ANY OF THESE PAPERWORK'S ARE THE POTENTIAL OF THE PUD TO HAVE DEVASTATING IMPACT. A LOT OF PEOPLE STOOD TOGETHER RIGHT HERE. THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WOULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW THE HEIGHT AWARDED TO BE CARRIED OVER TO THE COMMERCIAL LAND WHICH WOULD ALLOW A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TAX-FREE APARTMENTS . SCHOOLS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE -- ALL OF THIS COULD BE BUILT WITHOUT ANY CONTRIBUTION TO THE TAX BASIS TO OFFSET THE COST. THAT IS TO BE CONSIDER AS WELL WHEN THINKING ABOUT AWARDING WAIVERS. YOU MUST ALL THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT THE SITUATIONS WHICH COULD OCCUR. THE REGULATIONS WERE RENTED FOR A REASON TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND WAYS OF LIFE.

IF WE ALLOW THE COMMUNITY -- PLEASE THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT THE IMPACT YOU ARE CONSIDERING. WE ALL WANT THE PATRONS TO CONSIDER AND KEEP THEIR OWNERSHIP AND WE CANNOT ASSUME

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CONSIDER THE FACTS PRIOR TO VOTING TODAY AND WRITING A CHECK FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE FORCED TO PAY FOR THE FUTURE. WE HAVE NO VOTE, YOU ARE THE VOTE. THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS AS OUR BOAT. AS SOMEBODY SAID, JACKSONVILLE BEACH VOTED IT DOWN. YOU HAVE TO CONTROL THE SQUARE FOOTAGE . IT IS -- YOU ARE THE BEST REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE COMMUNITY. TABLE THE VOTE AND FIGURE IT OUT. DO NOT RUSH IT AND THAT'S COME TO SOME SORT OF COMMON GROUND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE PATENT FAMILY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND I HOPE YOU LISTEN TO MY HEARTFELT CONCERNS.

I ONLY WORK FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AND FEEL OBLIGATED TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. NOBODY MADE A GREATER MISTAKE THAN HE WHO DID NOTHING BECAUSE HE COULD DO

ALMOST ONLY A LITTLE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? >> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR HER. BUT I WANT TO ASK THE STAFF. IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN THE COMMISSION IF IT IS NECESSARY?

>> YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

UNDER THE LOCAL ACT. I WOULD ADD THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER BUILDINGS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE IN THE AREA THAT COULD SERVE TO SET THE HEIGHT STANDARD FOR DEVELOPMENT.

>> TURN EVERYTHING INTO THE COUNTY.

>> I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

LET ME KNOW THE TIME WOULD BE.

>> I WANT TO SEE IF WILLIAM HARRIS IS AN AUDITORIUM. OKAY.

THEY WERE THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE LIST.

>> WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE OF ALL THE EMAILS I RECEIVED FROM OUT OF THE COUNTY THAT WAS FOR THE PROJECT, WHENEVER SOMEONE COMES UP I APPRECIATE THEM SAYING THE CITY AND COUNTY THERE FROM. EVERY SINGLE PERSON. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> WE DO ASK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> I WANT TO OBJECT TO THE CHARACTERIZATION OF THE PROPONENT AND NOT THE EMAILS. WE NEED TO BE VERY FAIR AND HOW WE TREAT BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE, PLEASE.

>> I AGREE. ALSO AS A NOTE , THE BOARD WAS TO HEAR EVERY WORD SAID BY EVERY PERSON WHO CHOOSES TO BECOME A PUBLIC COMMENTOR.

PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE FOR THE AUDITORIUM. IT CAN SOMETIMES GET EXCITING AND FEEL LIKE A RALLY. BUT THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING AND WANT TO GET TO AGENDA ITEMS. PLEASE HOLD THE APPLAUSE AND IF YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING IN FAVOR OF OR AGAINST THE PROJECT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEAK. USE YOUR VOICE AT THE PODIUM. BUT OTHER FORMS OF DEMONSTRATION OR PAUSE I ASK THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM DOING THAT. MADAM VICE CHAIR?

>> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD TO COME TO THE PODIUM. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED HERE TO SPEAK ., SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MIGHT NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FROM AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. NO ONE MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

NUMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE TO REFRAIN FROM DEMONSTRATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL. I ASK THAT ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL, PLEASE PRESENTED TO THE STAFF OR COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. JUST A REMINDER THAT IF ANYBODY SEATED FOR THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE DON'T -- THEY REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP. SO NO DOUBLE DIPPING IN THAT SENSE. IT IS ALL YOURS NOW.

>> I WANT TO ADD A LITTLE TANGENT. BOB FRANCO. ST. JOHNS

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THE GYM WAS ON THE OCEAN ON SMALL SPARTAN. STATE OF THE ART GYM. THEN THEY BUILD A DINING ROOM. FIRST-CLASS ON THE OCEAN.

MR. PAIN STUDIES IT AND MOVES IT. THE GREATEST THING -- SHOWS YOU THE CONTROL GROWTH. THE SPA -- THEY WERE TWO ROOMS. THEY GO DOWN AND THE STEWARDS PUT MONEY INTO THE CLUB AND BUILDING IT AND MAINTAINING IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF DAMAGES AND STORMS AND HURRICANES. THERE HAS BEEN NO ASSESSMENTS. THE REAL ESTATE HAS SKYROCKETED AND IF YOU ASK THE STAFF, 59 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE OVER 25 YEARS. THEY LITERALLY LOVE THE PATRONS. THEY WILL TELL YOU THE PLACE IS RUNNING DOWN AND WE NEED A WHOLE NEW PROJECT. OUT OF THE 59 PEOPLE, WE ASKED THEM IF THEY LOVED THE PAYTONS. I DON'T THINK THE CLUB WILL EVER BE SOLD. THEY LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT CHAPTER. SO THAT EVERYONE CAN ENJOY IT. AND ONE LAST THING. JOHN IS NOW IN CHARGE. YOU HAVE BILL , FORREST AND THE NEXT GENERATION AS CONNOR AND KENT. I HAVE TO SAY THAT MITCHELL ROSE, WHO DOESN'T TALK A LOT, IS A BIG FACTOR AS

WELL. THANK YOU . >> THANK YOU DR. FRANCO.

>> KAREN ELIZABETH. THIS GENTLEMAN TO MY RIGHT WHO JUST SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THE PAYTONS IN TERMS OF THE VALUES THEY ADDED TO OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE MANY, MANY YEARS. HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTRACT WITH THE PAYTONS FOR ONGOING SUPPORT LIKE THIS. THE FUTURE IS UNPREDICTABLE . WE KNOW THAT DIFFERENT PROPERTIES CAN BE SOLD IF THE RIGHT BIDDER COMES ALONG. AND THE PAYTONS HAVE AN OBLIGATION OTHER THAN MORAL OR FAMILIAL OR WHATEVER TO SUSTAIN THIS PROPERTY IN THE WAY IN WHICH THEY HAVE MAINTAINED THINGS IN THE PAST. WE LOVED WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ALWAYS IN THE PAST. WE HAVE NO CONTRACT ABOUT THE FUTURE. THE OTHER THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HAVE TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC.

THE TRAFFIC IS JUST DEPLORABLE AT THIS TIME. TRYING TO GET HERE, TODAY, TOOK ME AN HOUR TO GET DOWN FROM THE BEACH. THE MORE WE ADD TO THE POPULATION AND ESPECIALLY A TRANSIT POPULATION SUCH AS RESORTS WERE COMING AND GOING AND TRAVELING OUT AND ABOUT . MORE APARTMENTS BEING BUILT. IF INDEED THINGS -- THE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS ARE COMPLETELY AMENDED SUCH THAT OTHER BUILDINGS COULD BE BUILT ALONG PAYTONS, THERE WILL BE LARGE VOLUMES OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS NO LONGER ADDING TO IT. BUT ADDING TO OUR COUNTY COST IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND SCHOOLS AND ALL OTHER FACILITIES AND ALL THE MANY SERVICES WE ALL NEED AS CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

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OURSELVES. >> THANK YOU, MAN.

>> I AM RETIRED AND LIVE AT FOR ABOUT 19 YEARS. I LEFT THE NAVY AFTER 41 YEARS OF SERVICE AND AFTER VISITING OTHER COUNTRIES , I DISCOVERED THAT NORTH FLORIDA AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD TO LIVE. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. I WIFE AND I LOVE THIS HOUSE WE ARE IN AND WE BOUGHT A 19 YEARS AGO. I GOT TO TELL YOU THAT THE HOUSES ON THE DRIVE BEHIND ME HAVE ALL MOSTLY BEEN KNOCKED DOWN AND NEW HOUSES BEEN PUT UP. THIS IS AN ONGOING REALITY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS AN IMPROVING COMMUNITY. WE LIKE OUR HOUSE THE WAY IT IS AND WE DON'T INTEND TO EXPAND IT. BUT OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO , WITHIN THE REGULATIONS AND PERMITS, TO EXPAND AND BUILD WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN. LET ME JUST SAY THAT THIS CLUB I BELONG TO AND I JOINED WHEN I CAME DOWN HERE, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OLD AND GETTING RUN DOWN. THAT IS THE REALITY OF IT. INNINGS TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE FOR THE CONTRIBUTION. THE TAX REVENUE SHOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THAT IS CALLED THE COMMON GOOD AND THAT IS WHAT THE COMMISSION IS ALL ABOUT, THE COMMON GOOD. TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN OUR AREA IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. PEOPLE DON'T STAY AT RESORTS TO COMMUTE TO AND FROM. BUT TO STAY AT THE COUNTY BEACHES AND NICE HOTELS. LOCALIZED TRAFFIC DELAYS ARE ALSO A CONCERN. IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR SO. THE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT PONTE VEDRA ARE TORN DOWN AND ARE MUCH MORE YOUNGER THAN THE PONTE VEDRA TODAY. IT NEEDS REJUVENATION AND NEEDS TO BE MODERNIZED . I ASKED THAT THE COMMISSION DO ITS DUTY AND EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE BEEN ELECTED NOT TO FOLLOW THE VOICES OF THOSE WHO SCREAM THE LOUDEST, BUT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THE RIGHT THING IS TO ALLOW THIS REJUVENATION OF THIS CLUB TO CONTINUE . I ASK THAT YOU TREAT PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES FAIRLY AND NOT BOW TO THE SOMETIMES SHRILL EXAGGERATED RHETORIC THAT COMES WITH THIS ISSUE. I ESPECIALLY

>> YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR. >> MY NAME IS NANCY. INDISCERNIBLE ] , PONTE VEDRA. I'M HERE BECAUSE I LIVED BEHIND THE CLUB RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE FIRST HOLE. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT BACK IN NOVEMBER IT WAS JOHN PAYTON WHO CALLED US ABOUT A PROJECT. I COULDN'T BE MORE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT FACT THAT THEY THOUGHT ENOUGH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON SAM ONE DRIVES THAT FACE THE CLUB, THAT THE WOULD ASK EACH OF US TO COME AND LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL AND I DON'T THINK A LOT OF BUSINESSES WOULD DO THAT KIND OF THING. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE -- MY HUSBAND AND I ARE VERY MUCH IN

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THEY HAVE BEEN FABULOUS. AND I THINK THEY ARE GREAT ASSETS TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND TO PONTE VEDRA. I HOPE YOU WILL APPROVE

THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> CLAY PERRY. 168 OAKS TRAIL, ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE OF US AT PONTE VEDRA ARE LOOK YOU HAVE THE PAYTON FAMILY AND THE CORPORATION COMMITTED TO FLORIDA. IT IS AMAZING WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO DIFFERENT RESORT THE HAPPY RESORT OF THIS CALIBER PRIVATELY OWNED IN OUR BACKYARD. WE HAVE SEEN BUSINESS AFTER BUSINESS, NO MATTER WHAT SECTOR, BECOME WHAT IT BY PRIVATE EQUITY AND OTHER THINGS. WE HAVE SEEN LOCAL PLUMBING COMPANIES AND ELECTRICAL ROOFING AND GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND FINANCIAL FIRMS AND THE COMMITMENT HERE OF BEING PRIVATELY OWNED NOW INTO THE FUTURE IS A LEGACY ASSET AND IS SOMETHING THAT IS FRANKLY A PRESENT THAT'LL KEEP ON GIVING FROM THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE IT AS A FIRST-CLASS RESORT THE PROPERTY VALUE AND SURROUNDING AREAS. TO THE TOURISTS AND TAX REVENUES REQUIRED. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE SO LET ME AND MY FAMILY AND MEMBERS OF THE CLUB HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR NUMBER OF YEARS. AND I CAME IN FROM PONTE VEDRA TODAY AND IT TOOK ONLY 30 MINUTES TO GET HERE. IT'S A TRAP IT WASN'T THAT TERRIBLE.

>> THANK YOU, SARAH. >> FRED WALKER. 640 NORTH WILDERNESS TRAIL. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL'S TIME TODAY. I GREW UP GOING TO PONTE VEDRA AND HAVE BEEN GOING THERE SINCE 2002.

MOVED OUT OF COLLEGE AND CAME BACK SIX YEARS AGO. WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO JOIN THE CLUB FOUR YEARS AGO AND I AM UP THERE EVERY DAY AND USE IT MORE THAN ANYONE BETWEEN THE GYM AND BOTH FACILITIES ON THE WEEKEND AND DINING AND SO FORTH. IN MY OPINION, PONTE VEDRA IS PROBABLY ARGUABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSET AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY . I KNOW IT IS NOT A SEMI-RELEVANT , IS MORE FOCUSED ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY. BUT I WAS ABLE TO PLAY GAMES OF WHAT IF ALL DAY LONG. YOU CAN PLAY WHAT IF THE PAYTONS SELL IT TOMORROW AND WHAT IF THEY SELL IT FIVE YEARS, 50 YEARS, WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT IN TIME? ALL I SAY TO THAT IS I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO GO TO LUNCH WITH JOHN AND EXPLAIN THE PROJECT TO ME. I TALKED TO MR. PAYTON AND I KNOW THE HISTORY AND LIKE THE FIRST TIME AND SAID, I THINK TRUST IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR WE HAVE TO LEAN ON HERE. I WOULD CONTEND THAT NO FAMILY , ORGANIZATION, AND THE COMPANY HAS DONE MORE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY , PONTE VEDRA, FLORIDA OR THE JACKSONVILLE THAN THE PAYTON'S HAVE , PROMOTING ECONOMIC GROWTH AND JOBS. AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT LONGEVITY AND TRUST, NO FAMILY HAS DONE MORE FOR OFFICE THAN THEM. WE TALK ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES. A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TALKED LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE CLUB. THE HOME VALUE IS WHAT IS TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FAMILY BEHIND ME. LAST THING I WILL SAY. WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS A VERY CUTE SAYING. I WAS IN MIAMI BEACH YESTERDAY AND ASEL HAPPENS WE COULDN'T MIAMI BEACH PONTE VEDRA WE TRY TO DO IT IN 50 YEARS. OKAY? WE DON'T HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE . IT JUST IS A FACT. SO WHILE THE SAYING IS CUTE, IT IS NOT REALISTIC. SO LET'S LOOK AT HISTORY AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ECONOMY AND LET'S GO ALONG THOSE LINES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ANY APPLAUSE.

>> MY NAME IS MAX GAYNOR. MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT INDISCERNIBLE ] AT PONTE VEDRA. WE ARE LONG-TERM MEMBERS OF THE CLUB AND HAVE LIVED IN THE AREA FOR A LONG TIME ALSO AND ARE

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SOMETHING ABOUT THE JAGUARS, SOMETHING ABOUT THE MAYO CLINIC , THE DMZ OR THE CLUB. THE PONTE VEDRA CLUB. THE GROWTH AND SUCCESS IS REQUIRED. WE JUST FINISHED COMPLETING A VERY LARGE CAMPUS EXPANSION. MALE. IT IS TIME FOR THE CLUB TO DO THE SAME THING. ENJOY THE SAME SUCCESS. IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT IS A GYM SOUTH OF FLORIDA AND FALLS IN A

JURISDICTION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> THANK YOU, FIZER CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS RON AUDREY. 193 AT ROSE WAY SOUTH. ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I LIVED HERE 70 YEARS . I AM THE PAST CHAIRMAN OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

PREVIOUSLY THE OWNER AND CHAIRMAN AND CEO , MILLER ELECTRIC COMPANY, ESTABLISHED 1928. THE SAME YEAR THE PONTE VEDRA CLUB WAS CONSTRUCTED. MY POINT IN MENTIONING OUR LEGACY COMPANY IS THAT THE GATE COMPANY IS A LEGACY COMPANY.

LEGACY COMPANIES BRING GROWTH AND EMPLOYMENT AND APPROVE THE QUALITY AND LIFE OF THE CITIZENS AND REGION . IN THE CASE OF THE GATE COMPANY , WE EMPLOYED MORE THAN 3000 PEOPLE . THAT BRINGS THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO EACH OF THE FAMILIES. THE PUD SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A BLESSING BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE RESTRICTIONS TO CONTINUE THE LEGACY. NOT JUST FOR THE GATE COMPANIES, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE REGION AS HE JUST HEARD. THE CLUB IS ON THE INTERNATIONAL MAP. THIS WAS A NEW PROJECT AND THE PAYTONS WERE PROMISING TO SPEND OVER $200 MILLION AS THEY HAVE INVESTED OVER THE PAST YEARS AND WITH THIS NEW PROJECT , THERE WILL BE DOZENS OF COASTAL COUNTIES CLAMORING TO OFFER FREE LAND AND LOANS AND INCENTIVES TO GET THEM TO COME TO THE LOCATION TO BUILD THIS PROJECT. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION. I AM GLAD TO SEE A LOT OF IT CLEARED UP TODAY. FOR THE COMMITTEE AND

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CONSEQUENCES. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CHIP GREEN AND I LIVE AT DISCLOSURE, I SERVE ON THE BOARD AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE APPLICATION . LOST A MEMBER OF BOTH OF THE AND LODGE. I SAT THERE 12 HOURS A PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER SEVENTH. WE ENDED UP PASSING 29 OF 31 VARIANCES.

THE ONLY TWO WAIVERS THAT DIDN'T PASS WERE RELATED TO MAINTENANCE. THE BOARD WENT THROUGH EACH WAIVER INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE APPLICANT . AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. THEY MADE CHANGES TO SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL WAIVERS.

WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF APPLICANT, AT THE TIME, WE INCREASED THE SETBACKS OF THE PALMER BUILDING. REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THE NEW LODGE BUILDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF PONTE VEDRA . DECREASED THE SIZE OF THE PARKING GARAGE AND INCREASED THE LANDSCAPE FOR LARGER VEHICLES AND APPROVED THE SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WITH THE PONTE VEDRA CLUB AGREEING WITH HIM OVER AND CLEAN UP. IMPROVED 20 OF THE VARIANCE WAIVERS. MANY OF THESE WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE. IN RESPECT TO BUILDING HEIGHTS, I HAVE BEEN TO MIAMI BEACH AND THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HERE AND FRENEMY TODAY. THIS IS BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION SCARE TACTICS AND RHETORIC. THE BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED TWO NEW BUILDINGS . THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF INTEGRATING THOSE BUILDINGS . THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, I HEARD FROM MANY CONCERNED NEIGHBORS AND FELLOW MEMBERS AND FRIENDS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. I LOOK AT THE PROJECT AS A MUST FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE GATE HOSPITALITY GROUP HAS BEEN AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS. MANY MEMORIES AND SPECIAL OCCASIONS AND MUCH MORE. THIS IS LIKE PARENTING A TEENAGER. PUTTING YOURSELF LAST AND PUTTING THEM AHEAD OF YOU.

IT IS JUST LIKE OUR COMMUNITY. SACRIFICES TODAY THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL MAKE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. I LIKE YOU THINK MR. PAYTON AND HIS TEAM , I THANK THEM FOR THEIR CONCERNS AND I ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.

>> VERY MUCH. >> MY NAME IS ROBERTA AND I LIVE AT COUNTY RESIDENT. I AM A REALTOR HERE AT SAINT AUGUSTINE. TODAY I AM HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AS THE LARGEST BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WITH OVER 1000 MEMBER COMPANIES, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE PONTE VEDRA DIVISION ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT THE INN -- THE PUD.

IT IS PROPOSED BY A LONG-STANDING CHAMBER MEMBER THAT THE PONTE VEDRA AND LODGING CLUB HAVE BEEN A MAINSTAY AS THE TOURIST AND HOSPITALITY SECTOR FOR ALMOST 100 YEARS. AS MENTIONED 70 TIMES TODAY. TODAY THE CLUB EMPLOYS MORE THAN 1100 PEOPLE. THEY HOST MORE THAN 140,000 VISITORS ANNUALLY AND CONTRIBUTE TO NEARLY $11 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. APPROVAL OF THE PUD APPLICATION

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UNDER THE AMENDED PROPOSAL, SEVERAL CONSIDERATIONS BEFORE YOU ARE PRESENTED TODAY. NO DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR ON THE GOLF COURSE. THE HEIGHT REQUEST HAS BEEN ELIMINATED ON THE OCEAN AND FOR FUTURE BOOM BUILDINGS AT THE CLUB. IN CONCLUSION, WE SUPPORT THE PUD APPLICATION OF THE PONTE VEDRA INN AND CLUB AND LODGING CLUB TO ALLOW THOUGHTFUL AND NECESSARY UPDATES FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA MAGNET THAT IS CALLED PONTE VEDRA SINCE 1928. I THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION. >> I AM ALEX ]. MY WIFE, KATHY, IS WITH ME TODAY. I HAVE BEEN THE OWNER OF BOUNDARY WITH THE CLUB. WE UNDERSTAND THE PROS AND CONS OF THE PROJECT. BECAUSE IT AFFECTS US SO IMMEDIATELY, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS AND CONSULTATIONS WITH KEY CORPORATIONS WITH THE CLUB. WE HAVE THE HIGHEST REGARD AND APPRECIATION FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US. WE UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ANNOYING AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

WE WILL BE LIVING NEXT TO IT AND UNDERSTAND THE TROUBLES .

WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HEIGHT LIMITS AS WELL. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND IT BE IN PLACES THAT WON'T BE OTHERWISE VISIBLE TO US. WE BELIEVE THEY WILL BE DILIGENT ABOUT MITIGATING THESE IMPACTS AND LANDSCAPING'S. AND THE CHANGES THEY MADE WITH THE DILIGENT ENGAGEMENT ON AN ONGOING BASIS FOR THE COMMISSION. AN EXAMPLE MIGHT BE REQUIRED FOR ONGOING ENGAGEMENT COULD BE PICKLE BALL FROM THE PROPOSED COURTS. WE THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A SOURCE OF TRUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MICROMANAGE SOMETHING AS COMPLEX AS THAT FOR THE RESORT. THE PID IS NO LONGER WHERE IT WAS. OTHER RESORTS IN THE REGION HAVE HAD MODERN DESIGNS AND AMENDMENTS. THERE IS NOT A CRITICAL MASS OF ROOMS AND FACILITIES TO JUSTIFY THE INVESTMENT. FOUR REPS DESCRIBES IT AS OUTSTANDING AND OFTEN ICONIC PROPERTIES WITH VIRTUALLY FLAWLESS SERVICE. IF YOU TAKE AWAY A COUPLE OF FEET OF ROOM HEIGHT, THE PARKING, OTHER AMENITIES AS PART OF THE PLAN , IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE A PART OF THE ICONIC PROPERTY.

A VIRTUALLY FLAWLESS SERVICE. WE THINK THIS IS WHAT PONTE VEDRA DESERVES. EVEN THOUGH WE WILL SUFFER TO SOME EXTENT BY THE INCONVENIENCES OF WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. TOWELS THAT DON'T MOVE FORWARD OFTEN MOVED BACKWARDS. AS A KID I REMEMBER HOW EXCITING IT WAS TO HAVE A HOLIDAY IN. LET'S NOT END UP

BEING AT THE COMMUNITY. >> MY NAME IS ARCHIE JENKINS AND I LEFT THAT 174 ROUGHLY 30 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE EARLY '70S.

PONTE VEDRA HAS BEEN THE FOCAL POINT OF MY SOCIAL LIFE FOR OVER 50 YEARS. I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GRATITUDE TO BE A PART OF THE CLUB 'S GROWTH THROUGH THOSE YEARS. I LIVED THROUGH MANY CLUB RENOVATIONS. AT THE END, THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN HUGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE MEMBERS AND THE AREA. WE ARE AT THE

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EVERYTHING DUMBA THE CLUB HAS BEEN DONE TO THE HIGHEST STANDARD AND THAT IS WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FROM THE PROJECT. THE IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE A THE CLUB IS A GREAT NEIGHBOR AND PROVIDES ADDED SECURITY FOR THE LODGE. THE LOCATION FOR OUR YOUTH TOGETHER. AND SPECIAL EVENTS. PONTE VEDRA WAS HERE LONG BEFORE THE OTHERS. THAT OPENED IN 1928 AND HAS BEEN EXCELLENT SPIRIT EVER SINCE.

UPDATES AND IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE YEARS HAVE MADE THE COMMUNITY BETTER, STRONGER AND MORE DOMINANT. THE PROPOSED CHANGES WILL BE FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AND VISITORS. AND A WIN FOR THE COUNTY. I FULLY SUPPORT AND PROPOSE CHANGES AND UPGRADES AND TO PIGGYBACK ON BOB, THE FIRST SPEAKER, IT COMES DOWN TO TRUST. I AM PRESENTLY TRUST THE PAYTON FAMILY AND THEY ARE GREAT COMPANY. THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT BEEN NICE TO ME. I HAVE FULL FAITH IN THEM. TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

>> MY NAME IS KURT BENHAM AND ALEX AUGUSTINE. THANK YOU FOR THIS HEARING AND ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COUNTY. WE ARE GRATEFUL. AS A RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND MEMBER , GOING TO STATE MY ENTHUSIASM AND SUPPORT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN BEING VOTED ON TODAY. WE THINK IT IS A GOOD PLAN. WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE ENORMOUS NOT JUST FOR CLUB MEMBERS , OR FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND RETIREMENT REGION AS WELL. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE YES.

>> MY NAME IS FOR THE GREEN. I LIVE AT 276 BRIARWOOD LANE.

PONTE VEDRA, FLORIDA. ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IS A 30 YEAR ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT, A MEMBER OF LEADERSHIP ST. JOHNS AND A MEMBER OF THE PONTE VEDRA CLUB AS WELL AS A FORMER ELECTED MUNICIPAL SERVICES DISTRICT TRUSTEE OF PONTE VEDRA, I HAVE PERSONALLY REVIEWED THE RESORTS INTEGRATED MASTER PLANS. I HAVE ALSO HEARD THE INPUT OF THOSE WHO HAVE SHARED THEIR CONCERNS AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THE TRAVERTINE AND GET CORPORATIONS ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO INCLUDE , INFORM, AND ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY . CHANGE CAN SOMETIMES BE DIFFICULT.

SOMETIMES IT CAN BE POSITIVE. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

MEMBERS OF COMMISSION, I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED THAT AN ELEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS INTENTIONALLY SPREAD DISPERSIONS , LIES, ET CETERA ABOUT THE PROJECT. I HAVE SEEN COUNTLESS EMAILS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT OUT AND MISREPRESENTING THINGS GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT. BY THE WAY, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BOTHERING TO PUT THEIR NAMES ON THESE EMAILS. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS PRESIDED OVER MEETINGS LIKE YOU ARE DOING TODAY, I HOPE YOU AS MEMBERS OF COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER THE FACTS, FICTION.

THE TRUTH FROM THE LIES. BECAUSE SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY JUST DON'T HAVE THE SAME GOALS IN MIND IS WHAT WE BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE. MANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTIONS AND REQUEST HAVE BEEN ADOPTED AND INCLUDED INTO THIS MASTER PLAN. AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE IS

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YOU'RE MAKING A GENERATIONAL DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN, OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR FUTURE GRANDCHILDREN. $1.6 MILLION IN BED TAX REVENUE AND $11 MILLION AND SOLD PROPERTY TAX AND OVER $34 MILLION OF ANNUAL PAYROLL. 1200+ EMPLOYEES FOR MANY YEARS TO COME, BUT EFFORTS YOU'RE PUTTING IN TODAY WILL CONTINUE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. I ENCOURAGE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

THESE APPROVED THIS PUD. >> I AM RENEE AND INDISCERNIBLE ] , PONTE VEDRA, FLORIDA. I FAMILY MOVED TO PONTE VEDRA IN 1962. AND AT THE MEMBERS OF THE PONTE VEDRA SINCE THAT TIME. MY HUSBAND AND I ADDED THE LODGE AND CLUB DUE TO THE LOCATION BEING NEAR TO OUR HOME. TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH THIS CLUB AND THE LODGMENT TO US , MY CHILDREN HAVE THEIR FIRST JOBS THERE AND THEY LEARNED CUSTOMER SERVICE AND BUDGETING AND LEARNED HOW TO TREAT PEOPLE. FROM THIS ORGANIZATION. AND THEY DID A GOOD JOB TEACHING THEM. WE HAVE BEEN THANKFUL FOR ALL THE CHANGES MADE BY BOTH CLUBS DURING OUR TENURE AND THEY ARE TOO NUMEROUS TO EVEN LIST. I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THEM. BUT THEY ARE NEEDED FOR UPDATING, BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS FOR SAFETY , AND FOR THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY.

I REMEMBER RESIDENTS FOUGHT MANY CHANGES THAT WE NOW CONSIDER REALLY GOOD DRIVING ON THE BOULEVARD. THE CHANGES ARE NOT EVEN THAT APPARENT RIGHT NOW. HOW DOES THE CLUB HELP US AS A COMMUNITY? WE MENTION PROPERTY VALUES AND MANY REAL ESTATE AGENTS. SOME THINGS THEY LIST IS IT IS CLOSE AND WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO THE CLUB. I FIND THAT REALLY INTERESTING.

THAT HELPS SELL REAL ESTATE. MANY FLORIDA COMMUNITIES HAVE THIS KIND OF SITUATION. WE THOUGHT HOTELS AND RESORTS FOR THE 1920S, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS RENOVATE AND MANAGE THE PROPERTY AND KEEP THEM UPDATED. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE IN FAVOR OF GROWTH. PLANNED GROWTH. NOT OUT-OF-CONTROL GROWTH. MANY OF YOU COMMENTED ON THE TRAFFIC AND WE LOOK AT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE COME IN TO IMPACT OUR AREA. SO IT IS NOT JUST WHAT IS HAPPENING IN LITTLE MST PONTE VEDRA. WE ARE ASKING FOR YES FOR THE PLAN CHANGE FOR OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE FUTURE OF MY CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> THANK YOU FOR THE SHORTER TIME THIS AFTERNOON. RAISED OUR BOYS THEREFORE JEFFREY OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE ATP TOUR. THAT IS A GOVERNING BODY FOR INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL TENNIS. WE GOVERNED MORE THAN 60 TOURNAMENTS ACROSS OVER 30 COUNTRIES. OUR BROADCAST AGREEMENT, WE HAVE NEARLY 1 BILLION FANS AROUND THE GLOBE. WE HAVE BEEN HEADQUARTERED AT PONTE VEDRA FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, ATP AND PONTE VEDRA HAVE BEEN HAVING A AGREEMENT. ATP IS ON SOCIAL CHANNELS AND PONTE VEDRA IS DESIGNATED AS AN OFFICIAL CLUB OF THE ATP. PONTE VEDRA ALLOWS ATP TO HAVE A PREMIER LOCATION AND WORLD-CLASS FACILITIES FOR MEETINGS AND ACCOMMODATIONS FOR OUR TIMID DIRECTORS AND PLAYERS AND EXECUTIVES FROM OUR OFFICES. HAVING FACILITIES AND

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>> AFTERNOON. >> MY NAME IS GIL COOPER AND LET I LIVE AT 219 SANDWELL DRIVE. I HAVE A VISUAL I MADE OF MY BACKYARD. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SCOPE OF THIS 400 FOOT LONG PARKING GARAGE AND SPORTSCENTER. MY HOME IS ADJACENT TO THE NUMBER ONE FAIRWAY AND IS ABOUT 150 FEET TO BUILD A MASSIVE PARKING GARAGE. IT'LL BE 300 FEET LONG AND 30 FEET HIGH WITH FOUR FLOORS. THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED LANDSCAPE THAT HELPS CONCEAL THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS , LIGHTING AND SERVICE. IF THIS IS APPROVED, THIS FIRM WILL BE REMOVED TO ALLOW A 400 CAR PARKING GARAGE AND LANDSCAPING.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS , OR 300 FEET OF A PARKING GARAGE.

AND THIS IS THE BACKYARD. OTHER CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT THIS IS THE NOISE OF 100 CARS ENTERING AND LEAVING THE GARAGE DAILY.

THE UNHEALTHY AIR EMISSIONS FROM THE AUTOMOBILES AND BUILDING LIGHTS AND CAR LIGHTS AND GLARES INVISIBLE . THINK ABOUT IT AND ALL THE -- EVERYONE ALONG THIS LINE.

SEEING CAR LIGHT AFTER CAR LIGHT THROUGHOUT THE EVENING 24/7. THE PLAN INCLUDES ADDITIONAL PARKING GARAGES AS WELL. IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE SHOWN TO ANY OTHER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS WELL. THEY'RE PROPOSING MUCH MORE THAN JUST UPGRADES OR RENOVATIONS. THE PUD WILL REBUILD OVER 900 FEET OF NEW CONSTRUCTIONS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. ALL TORE DOWN AND ONLY BUILT . OVER 30 YEARS. IT'LL CREATE A NIGHTMARE OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON ALL ROADS LEADING IN AND OUT OF THE BEACH. FROM A1A TO THE BOULEVARD AND ALL THE FEEDER ROADS. SAND DRIVE IS A VERY NARROW ROADWAY. HAS NO SIDEWALKS. IT WILL BE A VERY BIG SAFETY CONCERN TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC INTO OUR AREA THAT IS WEST OF THE CLUB. GATES WAIVERS PROPOSES WORKABILITY AND ARE ASKING TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE LAW THAT SAYS TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND

TURN LANES. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GIVING YOUR MATERIALS. TO THE COUNTY

ATTORNEY? GOOD AFTERNOON. >> I AM STEVE MILO. I LIVE AT 561 TROPHY BOULEVARD. I LIVE FIVE HOUSES FROM THE LODGE. I MOVED FROM THE COUNTY TO THAT LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE LODGE. I HAVE BEEN THERE DURING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION , WHICH CREATES A LOT OF CONGESTION. EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT IT. BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU GO TO PONTE VEDRA, I SAW THE CABANA CLUB BEING BUILT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION WITH THE TRUCKS WERE OUT ON THE STREET. I THINK

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IT IS STILL A GREAT PLACE AND I USE IT ALMOST EVERY DAY. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. I THINK THEY HAVE HAD THE COMPROMISE AND AM SURPRISED SOME OF THE EMAILS AND LETTERS I RECEIVED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT MIAMI BEACH. I HAVE BEEN TO MIAMI BEACH AND THIS IS NOT MIAMI BEACH. I URGE YOU TO

SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS TIMOTHY AND I LIVE AT 57 1/2 JEPSON AVENUE. I HAVE PERMISSION FROM FIVE ADDITIONAL FAMILY MEMBERS WHO COULDN'T BE HERE.

>> WHAT COUNTY? >> PONTE VEDRA, ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I HAVE FIVE THE FAMILIES WILL GIVE ME PERMISSION TO SPEAK ON THE BEHALF WHO ARE ABLE TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF WORK CONFLICTS. I WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT MR. PAYTON BEGAN WITH MITIGATION BETWEEN THE CLUB AND COMMUNITY. IT HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT OF TREMENDOUS FROM DAY ONE. IT HAS BEEN CONCISE AND CONSISTENT AND FEEDBACK IS CONSTANTLY BEING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND THAT IS NO SMALL FEAT GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION THAT IS SPREAD AS WELL TO BASICALLY THE WHOLE COUNTY. I WANT TO SAY YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE HEARD THE NEXT GENERATION IS THROWN OUT ABOUT 100 TIMES TODAY. ONE EXCEPTION, PERHAPS, HAVEN'T HEARD ANY REPRESENTATION. SO WHAT YOU TELL YOU ALL QUITE PLAINLY THAT WE SUPPORT THIS PUD. THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES THAT ARE THE SAME AGE ARE ALSO IN FAVOR. AN OPPORTUNITY WE HAD FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS, PONTE VEDRA IS A COMMUNITY AND THE CLUB IS GOING WITH IT. HAND IN HAND AND STEP-BY-STEP. THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS THROWN OUT THERE THAT I REALLY JUST SCARE TACTICS. YOU HAVE TO BE HARD-PRESSED TO FIND ANYBODY THAT WOULD PAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS IS JUST THE DIRECTION THE COMMUNITY IS HEADED IN AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND AS A MEMBER OF THE GENERATIONS THAT WILL BE IMPACTED THE MOST BY THIS PUD, I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE ON OUR OWN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MY NAME IS JENNIFER CARPER.

MY HUSBAND IS PONTE VEDRA . IF YOU KNOW MY HUSBAND IS, I THINK YOU ALSO KNOW WE ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO GIVE BACK AND HOW TO POSITIVELY AFFECT COMMUNITIES IN JACKSONVILLE. THIS TOPIC OF HOT BENEFITS OR MIGHT NOT BENEFIT COMMUNITIES IS SOMETHING IS CLOSE TO OUR HEARTS. WHILE ALL THESE PERSONAL STORIES ARE LOVELY, THEY ARE ACTUALLY NOT RELEVANT TO THE ISSUE. AS A SIDE NOTE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE GOOD SOCIAL LIFE AND RAISE GOOD KIDS. THIS IS ABOUT ZONING, BUILDING CODES, ST. JOHNS COUNTY REGULATIONS AND MORE. WHETHER THE PLAN FITS INTO THOSE. I STEPPED THROUGH ALL OF HIS MEETINGS. INCLUDING EIGHT HOURS IN THE ROOM AT ONE POINT. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE PLAN IS NOT CLEAR OR DEFINED WHERE IT USED TO BE. I BELIEVE THE TOPIC SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL THE POINTS ARE ALL CLEARED. A COUPLE OF THINGS I EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE MEETINGS AND EMAILS TO THE GROUP IS LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MEMBERSHIP INCREASE. THEY MIGHT CLAIM THIS IS PROPRIETARY INFORMATION . ARE ASKING FOR NUMBERS BECAUSE IT AFFECTS TRAFFIC. SIGNIFICANTLY. THAT IS A 25-15 MILE AN HOUR ROADS.

AND THE CORONA AND SOLANO ROAD ACCESSES ARE THE ONLY THING -- THE WAYS OUT OF THE BOULEVARD. CORONA AND SOLANO ARE THE ONLY

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THERE ARE HOUSES BUTTING UP PARTICULARLY ON SOLANO. I HAVE FOR THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT ALL COST. THE CONSTRUCTION WILL SPEND OVER 30 YEARS AND WILL AUTOMATICALLY AFFECT THE DRIVE AS WELL. AS PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, WE ARE THE ONLY STREET EAST OF THE BAY THAT CAN BE USED AS A REROUTE IF THE BOULEVARD IS CLOSED FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY LINE TO SOLANO ROAD. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO GET THROUGH IF YOU ARE LOCAL TRAFFIC PERSON. SAND ONE DRIVE IS A NARROW,VERY MELLOW ROAD.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS. THERE ARE LONG VEHICLES AND TEST VEHICLES. I WOULD REALLY LIKE YOU TO TABLE THIS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> RYAN SCHWARTZ. INDISCERNIBLE ]. I LIVE BETWEEN THE TWO SITES OF APPLICANT. I AM SUPPORTIVE AND MET WITH MR. PAYTON PERSONALLY. WHAT I AM MOST IMPRESSED WITH IS LISTENING TO ALL THE IMPACTED PARTIES IN THE COMMUNITY AND I HEARD FIRST HAND THE NUMBER OF CHANGES THEY MADE. I BELIEVE EVERY GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD DESERVES A TOWN CENTER. FOR US, THE CLUB ARE JUST THAT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DALE BEEN ON PONTE VEDRA FOR 46 YEARS. I AM A MEMBER OF THE LODGE AND I JOINED IT WHEN IT OPENED. I HAVE KNOWN JOHN PAYTON AND HAD A LOT OF INTERACTIONS WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS. MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM IS HE IS A MAN OF INTEGRITY. HE HAS A GOOD HEART. I PUT A LOT OF IMPORTANCE ON THAT. WHEN I CAME IN 1977, IT WAS A SWEET LITTLE TOWN. THE PGA TOUR WASN'T HERE. I MOVED TO PONTE VEDRA BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE I COULD AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSE. IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT.

THE SMARTEST POSITION AND DECISION I EVER MADE MY LIFE.

OVER THE YEARS, THE VILLAGE WASN'T HERE. THE PLANTATION COUNTRY CLUB WASN'T HERE.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAME INTO BEING WAS FACED WITH OPPOSITION. AND LOOKING BACK NOW OVER TIME , IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE PONTE VEDRA WITHOUT THAT BEING A PART OF IT. THEY WERE APART THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY. JUST AS THE PONTE VEDRA CLUB HAS BEEN ALL THESE YEARS. I REMEMBER WHEN BUTLER BOULEVARD WAS ABOUT TO BE COMPLETED IN 1979 OR 1980. THE HEADLINES AND PAPER SAYS IT IS A RICH MAN ON'S RESTAURANT WAY.

NOT NEEDED. AND SO THANK GOODNESS SOUND MINDS PREVAILED.

I REALLY BELIEVE MY EXPERIENCE IS IF YOU ARE NOT UPDATING YOUR BUSINESS, IF YOU'RE NOT STAYING RELEVANT , YOU ARE DOOMED TO FAIL. AND SO WHAT THE PAYTON'S ARE DOING WITH THE CLUB AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK WE WILL ALL LOOK BACK AND SAY CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE DIDN'T IMPROVE IT? SO I URGE YOUR SUPPORT WITH THE

PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> GOOD HALF INNING.

>> STEPHANIE MCCULLOUGH. I DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF RESIGNING IN . BUT THE MAJORITY OF MY BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED AT ST.

JOHNS COUNTY AND I AM A FREQUENT GUEST THERE. AS A VETERAN IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY, I WANT TO STRESS WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT IS TO HAVE AN OWNER OPERATOR THAT IS WILLING TO INVEST THEIR OWN CAPITAL INTO UPGRADING THE EXISTING

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YOU WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION THAT IS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND THE TAXPAYERS OF DUVAL COUNTY.

WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS BEING AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH, IT IS EASY FOR GATE HOSPITALITY GROUP TO NOT DO ANYTHING AT ALL AND I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE PUD FOR TRACY.

PLEASE CONSIDER THE FACTS WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE TODAY. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES FOR THE PROPERTY RESILIENCE AND STATUS OF EXCELLENCE. THE PRIDE THEY TAKE RESULTED IN $1.6 MILLION OF TAX AND 34 MILLION IN PAYROLL ANNUALLY. THIS OWNERSHIP HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD FOR BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE COMMUNITY AS EVIDENCED MOST RECENTLY BY THE MODIFICATIONS BASED ON COMMUNITY AND FEEDBACK. THIS OWNERSHIP INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT THE CAPITAL AND THE LONG-TERM PROJECTS.

>> MY NAME IS ROBERT. BEACH. I REPRESENT THE VICTIMS OF DOLPHIN CODE. THIS IS A SHORT PICTURE MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN IN MY BACKYARD. 26 OF THE HOMES HAVE SIMILAR IMPACTS. NO ONE EVER REACHED OUT TO US. JUST TWO LAWYERS. THIS GOES ON AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND NO NOTIFICATIONS AT PONTE VEDRA ABOUT IS THIS GOOD. IS THIS HOW YOU WANT IT DEVELOPED? WHAT IF THIS WAS YOUR YARD? THE DIRT AND THE PHILS. YEARS OF THIS. THE WIND COMING OFF THE OCEAN.

NO REMORSE WHEN THEY CUT MY UTILITY LINES TWICE. TWICE. NO EMPATHY. OUT OF INTERNET FOR 10 DAYS DURING THE PANDEMIC. NO COMPENSATION AND NO SUPPORT. I FEEL LIKE I'M DEALING WITH AT& T OR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY DOING D4 STATION. A FAMILY AT HOME AND WIFE AND KIDS DURING COVID. NO INTERNET FOR 10 DAYS. JUST LOVELY. IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT IF THEY MARKED UTILITY OFF. BUT IT WASN'T DONE. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPING THE RESORT. WE TAKE GREAT ASSETS AND PLAYED GOLF. IT IS AN ASSET. THERE ARE RULES IN PLACE TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY TO PRESERVE THE CHARM. TRUST WAS BROUGHT UP. I WAS PROMISED IN EMAILS I HAVE RIGHT HERE. I'LL BE HAPPY THAT MOST OF MY TREE WILL BE SAVED IN THE BACKYARD. TRULY -- CLEARLY IT DID HAPPEN. THE TREES DON'T DO JACK TO BLOCK THE LIGHTS FROM THE GAS STATION. MY RAW -- THEY JUST PUT THIS STUFF IN PRIOR TO THE MEETING. THE TIMING IS RATHER SUSPICIOUS ASK ME. SO THE SENATE BILL. IF YOU GUYS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LAW, YOU CANNOT VOTE ON THIS TODAY. THE LOCAL LAW. I HAVE IT PRINTED OUT FOR YOU. THE PHOTO SAYS IF ANY PARCEL OF LAND THAT SOMEONE OWNS WITHIN A ONE-MILE RADIUS FOLLOWS PONTE VEDRA INN, THE SAME RULES COULD EXTEND INTO THE PARCEL. BECAUSE SLAM AND HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS. IF WE ARE NOT DOING ANY REVIEW OF THE IMPACT, WE CANNOT VOTE ON THIS TODAY BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE A MASSIVE IMPACT ON OUR LIVES AT PONTE VEDRA.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANDREW LYNN. ]. THAT IS ACROSS THE DITCH. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I DON'T LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. BUT I THINK THE PROJECT IS BIGGER THAN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IT IS BIGGER THAN THE SANDBOX WE ARE IN. I

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-- TWO DAUGHTERS HERE AND I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE.

WE WILL BE HERE A WHOLE LOT LONGER. THE GROWTH FOR THE PROJECT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT, I BELIEVE THE FAMILY AND THE PAYTON'S HAVE GOTTEN IT RIGHT. THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS IN ANY SITUATION. LOOK AT THINGS AS A POSSIBILITY AND HAS BEEN OPPORTUNITIES TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SITUATIONS.

I THINK WHAT WAS SENT TODAY OVER FIVE YEARS OF CONVERSATION AND LIBERATION WITH EVERYBODY THAT HAS HAPPENED. OR YOU COULD HAVE A PROBLEM MIND-SET. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CONSIDER A YES VOTE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF THE FUTURE AND FOR WHAT THE PAYTON FAMILY HAS DONE FOR NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. I AM ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER AND REAL ESTATE OWNER IN THIS AREA. AND THE IMPACT WILL HAVE WILL BE HUGE JUST LIKE THE HOTEL.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. ON A MISSION FOR GROWTH AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. AMENITIES LIKE THE LODGE. IT IS ESSENTIAL TO SUPPORT BRINGING IN THE LATE COURSE IS LACKING IN JACKSONVILLE. IT IS REQUIRED INDISCERNIBLE ] . I SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION AND I THINK THIS IS BIGGER THAN JUST ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

2003 BECAUSE WE KNOW THE QUALITY OF LIFE. MY DAD MOVED DOWN HERE AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON VACATION OVER HERE.

HE WAS A MEMBER AND WE HAD TO ENSURE THAT. WHEN WE DECIDE TO GET INTO COMMERCIAL BUSINESS , AT THE TIME I WANTED TO MAKE SOME THE LEADERS OF THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND LEADERSHIP. ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN I GOT TO MEET ON TWO OCCASIONS WAS PAYTON. HE GAVE ME THE TIME AND I COULD HAVE FOUND TO BE MORE RESPECTABLE. JUST AN HONEST MAN. AND SOME CONVERSATIONS HE SAID I WILL NEVER LET THE PONTE VEDRA CLUB P SOLD. NOBODY IN MY FAMILY. SIX GENERATIONS OF WELCOME BACK AND FIND THEM. SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT. I TRUST HIM HE SAYS THAT. BEYOND THAT, PART OF MY JOB IS I DO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND ICY PUD IN THE CHANGES GOING ON. THIS IS NOT COMPLICATED. IT HAS A LOT OF

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PATIENT HAS BUT 30 MILLION INTO IT WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT IN '99.

THEY MADE A DIAMOND COMMUNITY. THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAY

AND DOING THAT AS WELL. >>> THANK YOU, SIR.

FAVOR OF THIS. THE PUD HAS REAL TEETH AND IS A REAL DOCUMENT.

THE PAYTON'S HAVE BEEN IN A GOOD PROCESS. THERE IS A LOT OF GIVE-AND-TAKE. I THINK A LOT OF GOOD CHANGES HAVE COME OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION. IT IS AN EXCELLENT DOCUMENT AND I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT CONCESSIONS. NO ONE OWNS THE VIEW ANYWHERE. BUT THE PAYTON'S HAVE AGREED IN THE PUD TO NEVER DEVELOP THE GOLF COURSE .

>> MY NAME IS ROBERT MAXWELL. I COME AS A MEMBER OF THE PONTE VEDRA COMMUNITY CLUB. BRING A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. ALMOST EIGHT YEARS AGO FROM MINNESOTA. I WILL SAY WHOLEHEARTEDLY I AM SO GLAD TO BE A FLORIDIAN AND APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU. IT IS A MARVELOUS PLACE TO LIVE. THE REASON I WANT TO COMMENT IS AS ALL PHYSICIANS AT MAYO CLINIC, WE ARE TRAINED TO UNDERGO CHANGES. YOUR AND ROLLED IN CHANGE MANAGEMENT COURSES AND CHANGE MANAGEMENT THROUGHOUT CAREERS.

NOT ONLY AS A MEMBER OF THE CLUB, BUT EFFECTIVE CHANGE. I THINK IT IS ESSENTIAL WE EMBRACE CHANGE AND INITIALLY EVERYONE IS HESITANT TO CHANGE. IF WE DON'T CHANGE, WILL SURVIVE. IT IS ALSO IMPERATIVE TO COLLABORATE. IF PLANS HAVE BEEN CHANGED OVER TIME BASED ON INPUT, IT IS TRULY HOW YOU ARRIVE AT THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION. I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER NO ONE IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSITIONING ] HAVE AN ENORMOUS POSITIVE

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>> IN QUEUE. >> MY NAME IS JAMES STOCKTON.

JAMES COMES OUT JIMBO TRANSLATED INTO SOUTHERN. I THINK THIS MEETING , I HAVE JUST A HEART OF GRATITUDE AND I WILL EXPLAIN WHY. THEY ARE SO UNDERESTIMATED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THIS COMMUNITY. FOR EXAMPLE, JOHN PAYTON MENTIONED A STATE PARK. MY GRANDFATHER USED TO OWN -- HONEY LODGE. IT WAS HIS DREAM THAT THAT PART B GIVEN TO THE STATE , PRESERVES, AND I CAN'T THINK OF A GREATER GIFT THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS RECEIVED IN THAT PART. THAT PART COULD'VE BEEN THE GREATEST DEVELOPMENT IN ALL OF FLORIDA. IT HAS FIVE MILES OF OCEANFRONT . 10,000+ ACRES . ALL KINDS OF BEAUTIFUL LAND. THEY CHOSE TO GIVE IT TO THE STATE. THEY CHOSE TO PURSUE THE STATE . THEY COULD DEVELOP THAT. THEY MADE A FORTUNE BUT THEY HAVE A HEART FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND I THINK, I THINK EVERYONE WITHIN THEMSELVES SHOULD BE STANDING UP GIVING THEM A MAJOR STANDING OVATION FOR THE SUPPORT AND WHAT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY DONE FOR THIS COUNTY. JUST A COUPLE THINGS BEFORE I GET INTO MY TALK. I WANT TO CLEAR THINGS UP. I CAN TOTALLY TESTIFY THAT THE PATRONS ARE NOT INTERESTED . BECAUSE MY DAD TRY TO BUY IT. SHORTLY AFTER HE PURCHASED THE CLUB HE APPROACHED THEM AND THE PATRONS WEREN'T HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS THEIR LEGACY PROPERTY TO HOLD ONTO FOREVER. WITH THAT, ONE OTHER HOUSEKEEPING THING I WANT TO SAY. I HEARD SOEONE MENTION THE JENKINS HOUSE. IT IS CLOSE TO THE CLUB. THE JENKINS HOUSE LOOK AT -- GAS STATION OVER THERE. THAT'S THE VIEW THEY HAD. NOW THEY HAVE A WORLD-CLASS TO LOOK AT. I LOVE OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE. I GREW UP HERE WRITING HORSES, CAMPING, HUNTING. MOST OF THE LOTS PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE COMMUNITIES EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN OPPOSING IT, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN GREATLY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY . MY GRANDFATHER CREATED THE --

CLUB. >> THANK YOU . SORRY. >> BOTTOM-LINE. ONE THING.

THIS IS THE BEST THING FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU . I APPRECIATE IT.

KRISTI AUSTIN. I LIVE AT 8 TO 9 -- BOULEVARD . >> I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MISS AUSTEN WAS LISTED BY -- IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT EXCEEDED TIME. SO I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE

BOARD HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED. >> MY HUSBAND IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY AND I WOULD LIKE

TO BE FOR HIM. >> YOU ARE RELINQUISHING YOUR THREE MINUTES WHEN YOU SIGN

SOMEBODY AS A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE. >> RA. I WON'T SPEAK .

>> THE SAME RULES APPLY TO EVERYONE. I WISH I COULD SPEAK.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> MY NAME IS BILL JETER. 91 SAN JUAN DRIVE UNIT U 2. MY WIFE AND I HAVE OWNED A CONDO

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THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOHN CLICK. DESPITE THE ACCIDENT I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 21 YEARS. THOSE OF US WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT CERTAINLY AGREE THAT THE PAYTON'S ARE BEING VERY GOOD STEWARDS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. WE ALSO DO NOT OBJECT TO THE TWO CLUBS MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR FACILITIES. IN FACT WE SUPPORT IT. THERE ARE AS WE HAVE SEEN TODAY MANY CONCERNS AND UNCERTAINTIES OF HOW THESE PLANS ARE BEING DRAFTED AND IMPLEMENTED OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, ETC. LOOKING AT THE PLANT CAREFULLY, IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO TWO WORDS. DENSITY AND HEIGHT. THE HEIGHT AND DENSITY IMPLICATIONS WOULD CREATE VERY WHIRRING PRECEDENTS . IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T TRUST THE PAYTON'S AND CURRENT OWNERSHIP.

WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OTHERS WILL DO ONCE THE PRECEDENT IS SET. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU THE TABLE THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL I LIVE AT 101 GREEN WILLOW LANE. I DO NOT LIVE IN PONTE VEDRA. IT IS LOVELY THERE AND I ENJOY THE AREA. I HAVE GONE UP AND LOOKED AT A PROPERTY QUITE EXTENSIVELY. I JUST HONOR YOU COMMISSIONERS HERE FOR THIS LONG DAY . AND YOU ARE JUST IN THIS PLACE OF OVERSIGHT. I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF US VERSUS THEM HERE . IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE PEOPLE ARE KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE. I HAVE NOT HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WE DO NOT WANT PONTEVEDRA TO FIX AND UPDATE ANYTHING. IN FACT I HAVE HEARD REALLY PRETTY MUCH THE OPPOSITE FROM ALMOST EVERYBODY.

I DO NOT REALLY THINK , THE BOTTOM LINE ISSUE IS TO DENY THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT WILL RUIN

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THEY WENT TO THE TROUBLE OF WRITING IN TO THE PUD, LET'S PRESERVE THIS WALKWAY INTO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THIS STAYS HERE. I THINK THE CITIZENS OF THIS AREA HAVE CONCERNS. I KNOW THE PAYTON' HAVE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS . THEY HAVE GOT A LOT OF INPUT. I APPRECIATE THE CHANGES . THEY ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO CHANGE THIS. BUT I AGREE WITH TABLING THIS JUST FOR NOW. JUST GET THOSE LAST LITTLE THINGS TIGHTENED UP SO THAT COMMUNITY CAN BE IN UNITY. I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WILL LIKE IT. YOU ALWAYS WILL HAVE YOUR PEOPLE THAT WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THINGS TOGETHER. WE NEED UNITY IN THIS COUNTRY. WE NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY 100% ROOM FOR COMPROMISE. I HAVE HEARD ALMOST EVERYBODY APPEARED TALKING SAYING THE SAME THING. THIS IS A GOOD PLAN . THIS IS GOOD FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE GOOD FOR THE BOTTOM LINE. BUT WE TRUST AND WE VERIFY . LET'S GET SOME OF THE SINKS AND WRITINGS SO THE PEOPLE THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PAYTON'S AND THAT INTENSE TRUST IN THEM CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS GOING FORWARD. I'M NOT SAYING IT IS A LOSE EVERYTHING. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS A SHOT EVERY THING DOWN. I AM SAYING THIS IS A MASSIVE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE HEARD CLAMOR OF THE CROWD, WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY EMOTIONALLY TALKING ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL THE PAYTON'S ARE AND THEREFORE WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS. IT IS GOOD FOR THE TAX BASE. THERE ARE SOME LDC ISSUES AND ISSUES THAT WHILE THEY MAY BE JUSTIFIED THEY SHOULD PROBABLY BE ADDRESSED A LITTLE BIT MORE THOROUGHLY AND VETTED THROUGH THIS PLAN. THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN JUST BE TIGHTENED UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. YOU JUST TABLE THIS FOR A SHORT TIME AND BUT IT BE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MICHAEL TRAINOR MY OFFICE ADDRESSES 818 NORTH . I JUST HAVE A QUESTION I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP. AS YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME NOW. I THINK I FIRST CAME HERE IN 1976. BUT MY POINT IS I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON A THING THAT CAME UP EARLIER. THAT IS THE -- I'VE TALKED TO TERESA A NUMBER OF TIMES ABOUT THIS. I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF IT. I'M SURE YOU OF ALL DEALT WITH IT. I KNOW THE ATTORNEYS OFFICES DEALT WITH IT. MY POINT IS THIS, I TALKED WITH ELLEN SEVERAL TIMES. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO COMMIT ON THE RECORD DO NOT -- THEMSELVES WITHIN THE AREA NEXT TO DOLPHIN COVE AND NOT WITHIN THE GOLF COURSE. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHEN THEY COMMIT TO THAT? I EXPECT AS PART OF THE COMMITTAL TODAY I DIDN'T HEAR IT. SO AT LEAST WHEN SHE GET BACK UP YOUR I WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. IF YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD DO TO THE COUNTY WITH THE GOOD SUPPORT YOU DO. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I CAME UP HERE RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS STEVE STEPHEN OH I LIVE AT 335 PABLO ROAD I AM A ZONING WHERE AND I REPRESENT DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS AND FOLKS SEEKING PERMITS THROUGHOUT NORTHEAST FLORIDA . I KNEW WHEN WE MOVED TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN 2017 THAT THIS DAY WOULD COME. ZONING ORDERS ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM CHANGE. I KNEW WHEN I MOVED TO PONTEVEDRA THERE WAS A CHANCE THAT THE CLUB MAY BE REZONED. IT'S JUST A REALITY OF LIFE. I HAVE USED IT AND IS AN EXAMPLE IN PRESENTATIONS. INCLUDING IN FRONT OF THIS BODY FOR MANY YEARS. I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THIS AREA FOR 27 YEARS. I HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATIONS AND ALL THE INFORMATION. I HAVE TO SAY I AM TRULY ASTOUNDED AT THE AMOUNT OF OUTREACH THAT GAIT HAS DONE ON THIS PROJECT. THE PLANS, I THINK THEY ARE FANTASTIC. I THINK THE OUTREACH IN THE ALMOST REAL-TIME RESPONSE ON SOCIAL MEDIA FROM GAIT AND THE REPRESENTATIVES HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY. I THINK THE AMOUNT OF ANALYSIS THAT IS GOING TO DO THIS

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TO SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION BEING APPROVED BUT THIS BODY. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JIM GRIFFIN. I LIVE AT 600 PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD. IT'S IN CARLISLE. I ALSO HAVE THE HONOR TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE CARLISLE BOARD AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. A FEW MONTHS AGO MANY PEOPLE THE CARLISLE WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THREE AREAS. THE PALMER BUILDING, ON CORONA ROAD, THE HEIGHT OF THE LODGE, IF IT WAS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED. AND THEN OF COURSE THE SPORTS AND PARKING GARAGE. ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CARLISLE. WE WERE SURROUNDED.

WE ENGAGED WITH ATTORNEYS AND SPENT MONEY . WE NEGOTIATED WITH LAWYERS AND WE MADE SOME PROGRESS IN VARIOUS MEETINGS. YOU HEARD FROM PEOPLE WITHIN THE CARLISLE AS WELL. A FEW WEEKS AGO I DECIDED TO DISENGAGE OUR ATTORNEY. MEET DIRECTLY WITH MICHAEL GORDON , MISTY SKIPPER, AND JOHN PAYTON. WE DISCUSSED THE MAJOR CONCERNS WE HAD. THE PALMER BUILDING WAS REMOVED. THE HEIGHT OF THE MAIN BUILDING , THE LODGE, WAS ALREADY AGREED TO. WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE GARAGE MOSTLY. NOT NECESSARILY THE SPORTS BUILDING. THE GARAGE IS GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM OUR BUILDINGS SOUTH 50 FEET . IT'S GOING TO ESSENTIALLY ITS STRUCTURE WILL BE 38 FEET GIVE OR TAKE A FEW FEET THAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE IT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE 10 FEET BECAUSE OF FEMA AND FLOOD WORK. WE HAVE NO OBJECTION RIGHT NOW . WE HAVE PULLED MOST OF OUR MEMBERS. 47 OWNERS. I WOULD SAY 35 ARE MEMBERS OF THE LODGE. 10 TO 12 ARE MEMBERS OF THE CLUB . THEY KNOW IT HAS TO BE REFURBISHED AND REDONE. THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS JAMES -- I LIVE AT -- ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I HAVE LIVED MY ENTIRE LIFE OF 24 YEARS. WE HEARD EARLIER THERE WAS NO YOUNGER GENERATION REPRESENTATION SO I WILL FILL THAT ROLE. WE HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS SPEAK ON THE INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF THE PAYTON -- I WANT US DATE THAT I DO NOT DENY THE CLAIMS BUT I WANT TO RAISE THE POINT THIS EARRING IS NOT ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE OWNERSHIP IS ABOUT THE CHARACTER AND APPROVAL OF A PUG PLAN. YOUR DECISION SHOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY THE QUALITIES OF THE OWNERSHIP AND MUST BE SOLELY FOCUSED ON THE ACTUAL POD DOCUMENTATION . THE MODERNIZING PROJECT IS NOT ENLARGEMENT OR ENCROACHMENT. WE HEARD DEVELOPMENT -- WE WILL NEVER BE MIAMI BECAUSE PONTEVEDRA IS A SMALL COMMUNITY OF THE CITY. HOWEVER DUE TO HOW SMALL THIS COMMUNITY IS A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE IS EXPONENTIALLY MORE DELETERIOUS IN THE SAME PROJECT IN MIAMI OR SAINT AUGUSTINE.

IF YOU WANT TO BRING CHARACTER INTO THE EQUATION WHEN I CONSIDER THE CHARACTER PONTEVEDRA AND HOW THE PROJECT AFFECTS IT? A PREVIOUS QUESTION WAS ASKED OF A HOTEL ROOM DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN SAINT AUGUSTINE AFFECTED THE CHARACTER OF ITS SURROUNDINGS AND WHY IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN IN SUCH A CITY I STIPULATE THAT QUESTION IS INEFFECTIVE AND ACCURATELY DODGING THE IMPACT OF SUCH A PROJECT OF THE COMMUNITY NOT A DEFINED CITY. I AM NOT AGAINST AND CLUB RENEWAL PROJECT NOR MY AGAINST THE CLUB. MY FAMILY HAVE BEEN MEMBERS FOR OVER 25 YEARS. THIS PLAN IS AMBIGUOUS IN THE PLAN EXPANSION HAS BEEN COVERED BY THE IDEOLOGY OF MODERNIZATION. I HAVE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES THIS IS A WIN AND WE CAN TRUST THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. BUT I DON'T WANT TRUST, I WANT OVERSIGHT. THOMAS PAINE, ONE OF THE MOST PIVOTAL WRITERS ONCE WROTE, A BODY OF MEN HOLDING THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO NOBODY OUGHT NOT TO BE TRUSTED BY ANYBODY. PLEASE CONSIDER THE RAMIFICATIONS OF YOUR

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>> THANK YOU. >> IT AFTERNOON. MEGAN MCKINLEY 528 BOOT HILL DRIVE PONTEVEDRA BEACH FLORIDA. I WAS ON THE PONTEVEDRA 'S ZONING BOARD WITH THE CURRENT APPLICANT REQUESTED AND RECEIVED VARIANCES TO CONSTRUCT TWO NEW THREE-STORY HOTEL BUILDINGS IN 2017. THE TWO MAJOR VARIANCES WERE TO INCREASE BUILDING HEIGHT TO 43 FEET DUE TO THE NEED TO COMPLY WITH FEMA REQUIREMENTS. AND SECONDLY TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED OFFSTREET PARKING SPACES FROM 46 SPACES TO 21 SPACES . A LOSS OF 25 SPACES.

THE INCREASE OF SIX FEET IN HEIGHT SEEMED REASONABLE TO PROTECT PROPERTY AGAINST FLOODING. THE DECREASE IN PARKING SPACES SEEMED UNWISE SINCE THE APPLICANT IS NOW USING THE LOCAL COUNTY GRAMMAR SCHOOL FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING ON WEEKENDS BECAUSE IT LACKS SUFFICIENT PARKING. THE APPLICANT DOES ON A LARGE TRACT OF LAND IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT ON ANYONE ANYWHERE COULD HAVE EMPLOYEES PARK. PER THE PUD APPLICATION THE APPLICANT WANTS TO INCREASE THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE RESORT BY ADDING 107 HOTEL ROOMS AND INCREASE OF 33%. BY EXPANDING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE RESORT FACILITIES BY 27%. THESE PLANS INCLUDE ERECTING BUILDINGS OVER 60 FEET TALL ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES WHERE HEIGHTS ARE CAPPED AT 35 FEET , WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT DISCONNECT. THESE PLANS ALSO DRIVE THE NEED FOR PARKING FOR MEMBERS, GUESTS, AND EMPLOYEES USING THESE ENLARGED FACILITIES. AT THE PCA MEETING THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY NOTED THAT THE PROPOSED 55 FOOT TALL LARGE RESORT AND HOTEL BUILDING HAS TO BE 55 FEET TO OBSCURE THE PROPOSED 55 FOOT TALL PARKING GARAGE FROM EAST WHERE GARAGE WOULD BE VISIBLE TO LODGE PATRONS. UNFORTUNATELY THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE PLANS TO OBSCURE THE GARAGE FROM THE VIEW OF THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST. THE PUD APPLICATION IS ASKING FOR A 30 YEAR CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IGNORING THE IMPACT OF DECADES LONG CONSTRUCTION NOISE, DIRT, AND CONVENIENCES TO ITS NEIGHBORS. THIS IS AN EXCESSIVE BURDEN TO PLACE ON HOMEOWNERS WHO WANT PROPERTIES AND LONG-ESTABLISHE D NEIGHBORHOODS. IN SUMMARY, THE PUD APPLICATION REQUEST THE BUILDING 70% HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING CODE WERE NOT DEMONSTRATED TO BE JUSTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT. THE REQUEST FOR BUILDING PROGRAM TO BE ASKED DENT THE 30 YEARS IS UNFAIR AND AN UNREASONABLE BURDEN ON RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS. THE NEED FOR MASSIVE PARKING GARAGES WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT IS DRIVEN BY BUILDING PROJECTS THAT ARE

THE APPLICATION IN ITS CURRENT - FORM. >> IT AFTERNOON.

>> PAUL HILO. 639 D PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD. I'M A THIRD-GENERATION MEMBER OF THE CLUB. MY GRANDFATHER WERE STILL MEMBERS . ME AND MY NINE SIBLINGS ARE ALL MEMBERS. AS WELL AS AUNTS AND UNCLES. I SPEAK FOR ALL OF THEM WHEN I SAY WE SUPPORT THE PAYTON FAMILY AND GAIT HOSPITALITY WITH THIS PUD IN THE EXPANSION PROJECT. WHEN JOHN FIRST STARTED THIS PROCESS HE CAME AND MET WITH MY DAD AND I AND ASKED FOR ARI OPINIONS ON THE CONCEPTS, PLANS, AND DESIGNS. HE SHOWED US THE PROJECT AND HOW IT LAYS. I THINK THERE HAS BEEN MISUNDERSTANDING. THEY ARE MOVING POLLS FROM BEACHSIDE AND MOVING THEM ACROSS THE STREET. THEY ARE TAKING THE FITNESS CENTER AND MOVEMENT ACROSS THE STREET. WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL 80 UNITS OF HOTELS , I HAVE STATED THE CLUB 20 TIMES AND NEVER USE MY CAR WHEN I STAY AT THE RESORT. IT'S A FIVE STAR RESORT. YOU WALK ACROSS THE STREET FOR DINNER. YOU WALK TO THE POOL. HE WALKED TO THE GOLF COURSE. THEY HAVE BEEN SO TRANSPARENT TO THE ENTIRE PROCESS. THEY HAVE BEEN SO GREAT TO WORK WITH. ST. JOHNS COUNTY US DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB OF WORKING WITH FAMILY-RUN BUSINESSES IN DEVELOPING COMPANIES. YOU LOOK AT NOCATEE, SILVERLEAF ,

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS -- AM A PARTNER WHICH IS ON A WINNING HORSE. I AM HERE REPRESENTING CLIENTS . WE , OUR FIRM HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH -- WHO I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO CALL A PARTNER FOR 15 YEARS AT ROGERS TOWERS ALONG WITH EMILY PIERCE. WE APPRECIATE THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, THEIR TIME, AND THEIR ENERGY IN WORKING WITH US ON THE ISSUES THAT HER CLIENTS HAD AND ALL THE WORK THAT WHEN IT TO THIS DOCUMENT . WE KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ITERATIONS. WE KNOW ELLEN AND THE TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD. WE WERE HOPING TO WORK ARE SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT FRANKLY WE ALL HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME. WE HAD SOME ISSUES LEFT ON THE TABLE THAT ONE OF OUR PARTNERS -- WE WOULD LIKE TO ADMIT THAT LETTER TO THE BOARD JUST SO YOU CAN SEE . I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM BECAUSE , EVERYBODY HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THE ISSUES TODAY. SOME OF THOSE ARE COVERED. I WILL HAVE TO SAY ONE OF THE REMAINING ISSUES THAT OUR CLIENT HAS, I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SPEAK ABOUT IT TODAY IS THE FULL GOLF COURSE IS NOT CONTAINED IN THE PUD. THERE WAS ONLY A PORTION OF IT CONTAINED. THAT DOES SAY NO DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PORTION OF -- BUT THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THE TWO GOLF COURSES IS NOT A PUD AND IT IS A MULTI FAMILY. SO WE DO HAVE CLIENTS THAT HAVE CONCERNS, EVEN THOUGH WE DO UNDERSTAND THE PAYTON'S ARE GREAT , I HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FAMILY. I FULLY TRUST THEM. OUR CONCERN IS WE NEVER KNOW WHAT IS CAN HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD. THEY MAY NOT BE ONEROUS AND WEAK CANNOT ASKED HIM TO GUARANTEE TO BE ONEROUS FOR 28 YEARS WHILE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ON. SO OUR CLIENTS ARE CONCERNED OF THE REMAINING PART OF THE GOLF COURSE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY , NOT NECESSARILY BY THE PAYTON'S, BUT IF SOMETHING EVER HAPPENED AND THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD THAT IT COULD BE DEVELOPED BY A DEVELOPER DOWN THE ROAD.

SO WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS PUD TABLE SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THE PAYTON'S, GAIT, AND ELLEN AVERY SMITH AND HER TEAM , WHO HAVE BEEN SO GRACIOUS IN WORKING WITH US IN TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS. UNFORTUNATELY WE ALL KNOW THIS IS A BIG DOCUMENT AND A BIG DEVELOPMENT. WE JUST RAN OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS A FIRST. ROGERS TOWERS STOLE MY THUNDER. THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMEND DOUG MISS -- FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE TO THE -- EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. WE DON'T USUALLY

AGREE. >> -- WE MOVED HERE 24 YEARS AGO . WITH ALL OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE. YOUR ATTORNEY WILL TELL YOU NOT TO LISTEN TO THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD THE CLAMOR OF THE CLOUD STARTED BY A BILLIONAIRE AND HIS AGENTS. I THINK IT IS AMAZING. KATHY BROWN, THE FORMER HEAD OF THE COUNCIL SAID IT BEST. A PUD IS A SNEAKY WAY OF GETTING AROUND ZONING. AND IN A MERE 20 MINUTES TO BURNETT POINTED OUT THE MANY MANY DEPICTS. I THINK IT IS OVERINCLUSIVE AND OVERBEARING AND TOO MUCH MASS AND SCALE. IT IS HIDEOUS. IT HAS TO BE DWINDLED DOWN. I KNOW WE CAN DO THAT. I WAS JUST DELIGHTED TO HEAR -- SAY THAT. TOO MANY WAIVERS. ALSO ROGERS TOWERS RETAINER AGREEMENT PRESENTED TO THE CONTROL DISTRICT HERE SOME YEARS BACK WHEN THEY WANTED TO BE HIRED BY THE DISTRICT. AND IT ACTUALLY ASKS THEIR CLIENTS TO WAIVE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY OTHER CLIENTS. IT DOESN'T EVEN LIST THEM. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY COULD DO THAT. I'M WONDERING HOW MANY OF THE SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED HERE AND WERE INDUCED TO COME HERE BY THEIR LAWYER . I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ANSWER ON THE RECORD. I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH MASS, TOO MUCH SCALE, I THINK IT'S

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HERE AND THROW THEIR WEIGHT AROUND. ENOUGH. THANK YOU. >> I WILL BE BRIEF AND QUICK.

BRAD -- I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 28 YEARS. FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS I SERVED ON APPOINTED AND ELECTED ST. JOHN'S BOARD. WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE I LIVED WEST OF A1 A. I LIVED IN OLD PONTEVEDRA ON MORNINGSIDE DRIVE , SAN JUAN DRIVE, NL PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD. THE PURPOSE WOULD HAVE BETTER IN COLLECTIVITY TO THE CLUBS. THE COLLABORATIVE MIXTURE OF RESORT AND RESIDENTIAL BRING MYSELF AND OTHERS . MY SON'S FIRST JOB WAS AT THE CLUB AND THE BEACH RENTALS DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT AS A LEGALLY NOTICED RESIDENT.

AND AS A CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL PLANNER OF 27 YEARS BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR. THE CLUB AND THE LODGE COLLECTIVELY AS PRESENTED IN THE PUD ARE AN ASSET INCOMPATIBLE NEIGHBORED TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS MASTERPLAN WILL ALLOW IT TO CONTINUE AS A WORLD-CLASS ESTABLISHMENT. I SUPPORTED AND I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COMMISSION TO

CONSIDER APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES. >> MY NAME IS MARK NICKERSON I LIVE AT 21 DOLPHIN BOULEVARD.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I HAVE SINCE 1988. I HAVE RAISED BOYS AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. WE CAME ACROSS A REQUEST FROM GAIT TO PUT IN , CAN YOU SEE THIS? TO PUT IN -- AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY BEHIND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WANT OPPONENT TENNIS COURT SO THEY CAN TAKE OUT THE TENNIS COURTS AND CONTINUE ON WITH THE PUD. IT OCCURRED TO ME RECENTLY THAT A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD, ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT, THEY HAVE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT DRAWINGS AND THERE IS A LOT OF PRETTY PICTURES. CLEARLY IT IS POSSIBLE FOR GAIT TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO A DETAILED DRAFTING PIECE. OF COURSE THEY WENT IN AND DID THE DETAILS ABOUT HOW THEY WILL PLANT TREES AROUND THE PERIMETER. I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE TREES THAT THEY PROMISED YOU. I HAVE HEARD AND ATTENDED ALL THESE MEETINGS. I AM CONCERNED THE DETAILS IS WHAT COME THE PEOPLE OPPOSING THE PUD , IS THE DETAILS. NOBODY IS OPPOSED TO THE CLUB AND IMPROVEMENTS IN ALL THE TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECTS TO OUR NORTHEAST FLORIDA. THEY ARE A BIG DEAL . BUT IT IS THE DETAILS WHEN YOU ARE ASKED TO DO SOMETHING AND NOT PROVIDING IT THEN YOU ARE KIND OF TAKING A SHOT ROLLING THE DICE. IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFECTED BY THE CLEAR-CUT , THEY DID GET PERMISSION TO ONLY DO THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE. THE GAS STATION. IN THE COURSE. THEY CAME IN AND LEVERAGING THEIR AUTHORITY. THEY CLEAR-CUT THE WHOLE THING. PERSONALLY AFFECTED 26 FAMILIES. 26 HOMEOWNERS ALONG THIS . YOU HEARD ROB . IT WAS A REAL HEARTBREAK. DID WE GET AN

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>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> ZIMMERMAN BULLIS 847 SORRENTO ROAD. MY WIFE AND I LIVED THERE. I'VE LIVED IN JACKSONVILLE MY LIFE. WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY I LEARNED HOW TO SWIM AT THE CLUB. USED TO GO TO THE CLUB AND I REMEMBER BEING FASCINATED BY THE LARGE FRAME DISPLAY OF 50 DIFFERENT SIZE SHORT TEETH THAT HUNG IN THE LOBBY. 68 YEARS LATER I FOUND MYSELF STANDING IN FRONT OF THE EXACT SAME FRAMED DISPLAY WITH MY TWO-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON AND WE HAD A BIG SMILE. WHEN I DID LEARN TO SWIM I WAS WITH SAM THE LIFEGUARD. HE USED TO FOOTBALL ON HER BACK TO TEDIOUS IS WHEN.

BACK THEN YOU HAD TO LEARN FASTER YOU SUCK. SO IT IS A SIMILAR CHOICE THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY. I'M ALSO A BUSINESSMAN, RETIRED INTERNATIONAL SOCCER REFEREE FOR U.S. SOCCER AND 55. I TRAVELED THE WORLD AND WE STAYED IN SOME OF THE TOP HOTELS IN THE WORLD. IN THE RESORTS. NONE OF THEM WERE FINER THAN THE PONTEVEDRA OF CLUB. PEOPLE WOULD ALWAYS ASK WHERE I WAS FROM AND WHEN I SAY JACKSONVILLE THEY KNEW JACKSONVILLE 44 REASONS. AND ONE OF THEM WAS THE PONTEVEDRA IN AN CLUB. SILVER BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN BEAUTIFULLY REFURBISHED BUT OTHERS ARE THE SAME THEY WERE 68 YEARS AGO.

THEY NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES. MY BUSINESSES AND SAN MARCO AND WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DEBATES ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS. I AM A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE PRESERVATION SOCIETY AND I TOLD THE SOCIETY WE NEED TO HAVE INVESTMENT AND RENEWAL IN THE AREA BECAUSE NOTHING STAYS THE SAME. IT IS EITHER MOVING UP OR DOWN. LOOK AT REGENCY SQUARE. IT USED TO BE THE TOWN CENTER. IT WAS THE PLACE TO GO TO SHOP. NOW IT HAS FALLEN BEHIND THE TIMES. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE INVESTMENT AND IT IS SOON TO BE LEVELED. LOOK AT THE SEAHORSE MOTEL . IT WAS BUILT 70 YEARS AGO. THEY DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES. IT IS SOON TO BE TORN DOWN. IF PONTEVEDRA DOESN'T KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES IT'LL REACH THE SAME FATE. IF THAT HAPPENS WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL COME NEXT OR WHAT THEY WILL BUILD. WE KNOW THE PATENT FAMILY HAS BEEN A STEWARD TO THE CLUB AND WILLING TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY IN BOTH THE MEMBERSHIP AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT. LAST YEAR HOUSING VALUES IN JACKSONVILLE WENT DOWN BY 1%. THEY WENT UP BY 37% OF PONTEVEDRA. THE CLUB IS A BIG REASON FOR THAT. WE KNOW THE PAINS WILL CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE CLUB. AND -- IS BOTH AN REMEMBER THE DAY THEY SAT IN HERE AS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT AND LISTEN TO THESE, THIS DEBATE. REMEMBER YOUR GRANDFATHER AND HIS GREAT WORK ETHIC. REMEMBER YOUR FATHER WAS ONE OF THE BEST MAYORS IN THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY. REMEMBER TO KEEP THE CLUB, INVEST IN THE CLUB, INVEST IN

THE COMMUNITY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM MICHAEL WARD THE MANAGING SHAREHOLDER OF THE LAW FOR OR COOK. OR OFFICES ARE IN THE BANK OF AMERICA TOWER. BUT WHAT BRINGS US HERE TODAY IS OUR OFFICE AT 818 AND 18 NORTH .

WE'RE ROUGHLY A MILE OR TWO FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY LAW PARTNER, KEVIN COOK AND I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE JOKE IN OUR OFFICE THAT WE SHOULD REBRAND AS THE OLD LAW FIRM BECAUSE WE REPRESENT SO MANY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS WAS FILED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. MOST OF OUR CLIENTS AND FRIENDS BECAME AWARE OF IT IN AUGUST.

BY WAY OF AN EMAIL THAT CAME FROM THE CLUB. THEY BEGIN ASKING QUESTIONS AND I WILL TELL YOU IN AUGUST ALL OF OUR CLIENTS WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. SOME OF THEM STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS AND SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS BECAME CONCERNS. EVENTUALLY THOSE CLIENTS REACHED OUT TO FORMER CIRCUIT JUDGE MICHAEL TRAINER, WHO IS AN ATTORNEY IN OUR FIRM.

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30 YEARS. GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO GET THIS DONE. >> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT BY

THE PUBLIC? WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE ARE DOWN WITH --

REBUTTAL. PLEASE GIVE -- EIGHT MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. >> THANK YOU. I THINK THE BIG PICTURE OF WHERE YOU ARE AT TODAY IS, AND PERHAPS A MOMENT AGO IS TO TABLE THIS.

THE BIGGER ISSUE I THINK YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS, DO YOU ALLOW A PUD TO BE APPROVED THAT CHANGES THE FACE OF -- ? WITHOUT A DOUBT IT WILL CHANGE THE FACE OF PONTEVEDRA. YOU WILL HAVE LET THE HORSE OUT OF THE BARN BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HAVE CONTROLS FROM THIS DAY FORWARD YOU KNOW WHAT THE MAP LOOKS LIKE. AT A MEDICINE -- DESERVES THAT RESPECT. -- I'M A RETIRED ADMIRAL. CAN YOU SKIP ADMIRAL JENKINS IS HERE WITH HIS WIFE PATRICIA AND THEIR SON TJ. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS IN THERE ON THIS PROJECT IT IS TOO MUCH. IT'S INTERESTING IT HAS GOTTEN TO WHERE IT IS. BECAUSE GIVES YOU THE FEEL AS THOUGH THEY WANTED TO ASK FOR A LOT MORE THAN WHAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPROMISE. BUT THEY STILL HAVEN'T COMPROMISE ENOUGH. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT THE CLUB AND HOW GREAT IT IS. THE CLUB IS GOING TO BE GREAT GREAT. WHO WANTS TO BE -- BEING ONE HOUSE WHIP FROM THE JENKINS HOME. THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED THIS WORK PROPERTY. THIS IS THE SOUTHERN END AND YOU HAVE A -- COLLECTION NOW THAT YOU HAVE SERVICE ON THE BEACH. IF YOU

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WITHOUT ANY -- YOU KNOW IT SHOULD LOOKING AT. THIS INTERPRETATION OF HEIGHT IS A NEW DEFINITION OF HEIGHT AND SOMEONE WILL COME THROUGH AND GET THE SAME DEFINITION FOR SOME PROJECTS AND YOU WILL HAVE CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO. I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT TO YOU YOU

NEED TO LOOK AT THESE CONCERNS AND GET PUSHBACK ON THE PUD. >> ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> A DETAILED PLAN IS CALLED A WHAT? >> WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO

IS A BUBBLE PLAN OR INCREMENTAL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. >> YOU ASKED FOR MORE DETAILED

MAP? >> MAD MAP? >> YOU KEEP TALKING OR REFERRING TO ONE HOUSE AWAY. THE JENKINS PROPERTY AND THE PATES PROPERTY. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WHO OWNS THE HOUSE -- ONE HOUSE AWAY? SOMEONE THE HOUSE ONE HOUSE AWAY ALSO OWNS THE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE JENKINS HOUSE.

>> DID HE NOT JUST HER THAT DOWN TO BUILD 8000 SQUARE-FOOT HOME?

>> IS AT THE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE? >> YES.

>> KEY. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL AROUND THE -- IT WAS BUILT BEFORE THE CHARTER TO LIMIT HEIGHT TO 35 FEET.

>> DON'T WALK AWAY. SO THE HOUSE SHE IS TALKING ABOUT , DID THEY HAVE TO BUILD IT WITH THE SETBACKS OF THE CODE AND DO ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE SET AS THE CODE WHEN THEY REBUILT

THAT HOUSE? >> CORRECT. IT'S MR. CRANBERRIES HOUSE.

>> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE VARIANCES. >> HE HAD TO DO IT BEFORE THEY

SET BACK AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. >> IT APPEARS THE PHONE LINE

WITH THE OTHER HOMES. >> THANK YOU. >> KNOW THE QUESTIONS FOR MR.

BURNETT WE WILL MOVE ON . -- IS PERMITTED HAVE 20 MINUTES. >> I WILL TRY TO NOT HAVE 20 MINUTES. FORCIBLE I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WITH THE YELLOW BUTTONS ON AND WHO CAME TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPOKEN IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT LIVE EAST OF AND WHEN I NEAR THE CLUB AND NEAR THE LODGE. YOU HEARD FROM THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT FOR THE CARLISLE. ABOUT THE WORK THIS TEAM IS DONE. YOU HEARD FROM THE POINT CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION ATTORNEY ABOUT THE WORK WE HAVE DONE. TO COMMISSIONER ARNOLDS POINT YOU HEARD FROM ALEX GRAHAM BERG WHO IS THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 307 PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD. WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO OUR POWERPOINT . IF YOU WILL COME UP AND GO THROUGH IT SO WE CAN GET THAT SLIDE WHILE I'M GOING THROUGH THIS. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. JUST AS A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS BEFORE WE START, NEITHER MR. BURNETT NOR THE TWO DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES BROUGHT ANY EXPERT TESTIMONY FOR ARCHITECTURE , ENGINEERING, PLANNING , ANYTHING. THERE IS NO EXPERT TESTIMONY ON THE RECORD FROM EITHER OF THOSE THREE FOLKS. I WILL SAY THAT WE DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BY THE THREE MEMBERS BUT HOWEVER WE RESPECTFULLY NOTE -- HIS GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND THAT SPEAKS WITH ONE VOICE WITH ITS VOTE AND YOU HAVE THE RECORD OF THE -- HEARING OR WE REQUEST YOU LAND THAT PLEASE. THAT IS WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES. WITH RESPECT TO, I WILL RUN THROUGH A COUPLE THINGS. THERE IS BEEN A LOT OF REFERENCES TO VARIANCES. PUD'S DON'T HAVE VARIANCES. AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE APPROVAL OF HARDSHIP.

BEAUTIES HAVE WAIVERS. SINCE WE WILL TALK ABOUT PUD'S FOR MINUTE, I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THIS PUD. THOSE DISPERSANTS HAVE BEEN CAST BY OPPONENTS ALL DAY LONG. TALK ABOUT THE LATEST PUD MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE.

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ANYWHERE ELSE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FOR PEACE PROPERTY THAT IS OF THE SIZE. I WILL SUBMIT THAT . IF YOU WILL SWITCH BACK TO THAT SCREEN AND WALK THROUGH WHAT IS PROVIDED .

THERE IS MR. CRANBROOK'S HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, ELLEN. ON THE SCREEN WE LOOKED AT THIS IN OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION WILL RECEIVE THE INITIAL SIDE YARD STEP BACK AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO THE ZONING CODE IS THAT THE SETBACKS ARE ALSO PROVIDED BY THE BUILDING RESTRICTION LINES. SO THIS SETBACK HAS BEEN DIVIDED TO MATCH THAT. WE DO HAVE THE INCREASED SIDE YARD SETBACK AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED SO YOU CAN SEE THE ADDITIONAL FRONT YARD SETBACK IN THE ADDITIONAL OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT. THE OTHER POINT TO MENTION IS HERE TO REITERATE WHAT CAN HAPPEN ON THESE LOTS. THESE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND LISTED AS COTTAGE RESORT USAGE. ANY OTHER MARKET TYPE HOTEL WOULD REQUIRE COMPREHENSIVE -- ELLEN SPOKE TO BECAUSE OF THE -- LAND-USE.

>> HANG ON I'M TRYING TO FIND ONE -- HERE IT IS. ONE LAST THING BEFORE WE WRAP UP.

AND SO MUCH PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY STAFF ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2016. IN SUMMARY, IT TALKED ABOUT THE PUNT OF EACH IN A CLUB, PROPERTY LAND-USE. THIS IS GOING TO MR. BURNETT'S POINT ON THE RECORD.

STAFF RECOMMENDED IN THIS LETTER, WHICH I'M SUBMITTING TO THE RECORD, THE THE BEACH OR IN THE CLUB CAN CONSIDER EXTENDING COMMERCIAL FEATURE LAND-USE DESIGNATION OR SEEKING A CONFERENCE OF ONLY IN THIS RED AREA . THAT'S THE PONTEVEDRA 200 PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD IS SITUATED. HE GOES ON TO SAY THAT 2025 BRANDS OF PLAN FOLLOWS THE A1 OF THE 15 STATES --, TO READ ALL THIS TO YOU. SAYS THAT YOU CAN ASK FOR A SPECIFIC BOUNDARY , AND TO ALLOW MINOR DEVIATIONS, IF NOT CLEARLY IN THE FUTURE LAND USE

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PLEASE REFRAIN FROM A PAUSE. >> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I HAVE A STATEMENT THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SAY. IS THAT ALL RIGHT?

>> YES. >> AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, MY ROLE IS TO REPRESENT MY COMMUNITY WHILE ALSO FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS OF THE COUNTY, WHICH INCLUDE THE PONTEVEDRA ZONING DISTRICT. AS I CONSIDER REZONING WITH THE PROVISIONS YOU'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR APPLICATION , THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CONFERENCE OF PLAN ADOT 1.3.7.8 SAYS I MUST THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A , THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS AN CYTOSKELETAL SURROUNDING AREA. THESE INCLUDE, BUT ARE LIMITED TO INTENSITY HEIGHT, AND SECTION 6 OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 8 OF THE PONTEVEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS IN SECTION A Q OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT WITHIN THE PONTEVEDRA ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS. HE CLEARLY STATES THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE -- FROM THE LOWE'S PLAN ESTABLISHED GREAT SURROUNDING THE PERIMETER OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND THE NEW PROJECTS AND THE MODELING REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT MUST COMPLY WITH THIS. FURTHERMORE, ON THE PONTEVEDRA CLUB PROPERTY -- IT'S 56 FEET IN HEIGHT. IN FACT, ALMOST ALL THE BUILDING SPACE OF PONTEVEDRA AND THE CLUB IS LESS THAN 30 FEET HEIGHT. THE LARGE PROPERTIES NO BUILDING OVER 40 3'0" AND THE ENTIRE HOTEL SPACES 29 FEET HIGH. TAKING OUT THE STORY AND COLLEGES 2% OF THE BUILDING PRIOR TO THE COPING DEVICE, YOU HAVE NO EXISTING CONDITIONS TO JUSTIFY BUILDING OVER 43 FEET IN HEIGHT USING THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HEIGHT DEFINITION. TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, YOU OPEN TO NEW BUILDINGS WHERE YOU OBTAIN A HEIGHT VARIANCE OF 43 FEET RESILIENCY AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED THEN. AT THE LOT I NO EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT JUSTIFY YIELDING OVER 35 FEET FOR HOTEL SPACE ON THE BEACH WHICH BASES IN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. THE SAME GOES FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THE LOT PROPERTY. I CAN TALK FURTHER ABOUT SETBACKS YOU'RE REQUESTING. THEY ARE NOT EXISTING CONDITIONS TO JUSTIFY WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING YOUR SETBACKS IN THIS PUD. WITH THAT SAID, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO RUN -- OBESITY TO REZONE THE LAND INTO THE PUD. HOWEVER, THE PROVISIONS RASK WERE NOT JUSTIFIED GETTING THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND THEIR NONEXISTENT CONDITIONS IN THEIR ZONING CODES TO PROHIBIT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS PUD UNDER THESE CONDITIONS. ONE, USE OF DEFINITION OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND PONTEVEDRA ZONING CODE AND MEASURING HEIGHT.

TAKE OUT THE DEFINITION USED BY THE APPLICANT. TWO COPY BIC NO BUILDING OR RENOVATIONS TO EXCEED 43 FEET IN HEIGHT.

THREE, THE LODGE OCEAN HOTEL SPACE 40 3'0" IN EXISTING 40 3'0" RESORT SPACE AND THE LESS I PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD 35 FEET.

SETBACKS, THE LESSER OF EXISTING CONDITION QUOTE -- NO GARAGE BILL AND THE PARKING LOT AND THE QUOTE OF PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD AMANDA ROAD. SERVICE POCKET IS -- BECAUSE I HAVE A SECTION OF THE ZONING CODE THIS IS QUOTE PONTEVEDRA OVERLAY DISTRICT Q 6.C TO A -- MAY BE EXPANDED WITHOUT BEST THAT RIGHT OR STOP FOR DETERMINATION IF PROPOSED ADDITION JOINS THE PUD. THE MORE --/PUD OR THE OVERLY

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MY MOTION TO THE BOARD. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAS MADE A MOTION. CAN WE CAPTURE ALL THAT? THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL. WE

HAVE A BIG MOTION. >> WE ARE BOTH TAKING NOTES.

ALL THREE OF US ARE TAKING NOTES AS FAST AS WE CAN.

SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS IT WRITTEN DOWN, I CAN BE REREAD AS

NECESSARY. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WROTE THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW

WHEN YOU WROTE THAT MOTION. >> LAST WEEK.

>> LAST WEEK ? >> I'M TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING BETWEEN WHAT THE PUBLIC IN MY AREA IS TELLING ME , AND WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR TODAY FROM YOU. I THOUGHT OF THIS IS GOING TO WORK , I'M GOING TO READ IT TODAY. I THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD BOTH SIDES OF THIS

TODAY. >> COULD YOU PLEASE ADVISE, I THINK WE HAVE -- SMITH HAS BROUGHT UP A VERY IMPORTANT POINT HERE BY ESTABLISHING WHAT THIS MOTION WAS WRITTEN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEEK YOUR ADVICE THIS MORNING.

>> THIS IS A CLAUSE IN JUDICIAL PROCEEDING. DECISIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MADE BASED ON THE RECORD EVIDENCE, WHICH INCLUDES THE PACK AHEAD OF TIME TESTIMONY TODAY. IT IS OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT IT WAS WRITTEN LAST WEEK. HOWEVER, THE COUNCILWOMAN DID NOT HAVE TO SHARE IT TODAY. I CANNOT PUT WORDS IN HER MOUTH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT SHE SAID WAS AFTER HEARING THE EVIDENCE TODAY, SHE STILL THINKS THE

EVIDENCE BRINGS THAT OUT. >> I WAS NOT GOING TO READ IT UNLESS I HEARD YOUR DESCRIPTION AND EVIDENCE ENTER THE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OURSELVES AS A BOARD. I UNDERSTOOD THE POINT AVERY SMITH WAS MAKING. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE WRITTEN THAT

DOWN. >> FOR THE RECORD, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WILL NOT AGREE TO THAT MOTION.

>> SO WE DON'T HAVE AGREEMENT FOR THAT?

>> WE WILL NOT AGREE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE PREWRITTEN

MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND KNOWING THAT BECAUSE DO NOT AGREE TO IT? IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? THAT MOTION DIES DUE TO LACK OF A SECOND . IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER THAT WISHES TO ASK

QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS? >> I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TODAY AND TOOK THE TIME TO SPEAK AND SEND US EMAILS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I GOT APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR IN DECEMBER OF '22 . EN IN JANUARY. I MET WITH MR. PAYNE AND SKIPPER TO GO AROUND AND LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO WITH HIS VISION. HE SAID, COMMISSIONER, THIS WILL BE A PROJECT YOU WILL BE PROUD OF. I AGREE. HE'S GONE OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. HE HAS PUT UP A VALID COMPROMISE WITH FOLKS. EVEN THE CARLISLE, WHO WAS A MAJOR OPPONENT HAS SIGNED ON. AND IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I'M THANK YOU FOR THIS PAIN FAMILY FOR ALL THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THEY DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH. I HAD TO TELL YOU, I WAS IN THE MEETING WITH THEM TODAY. I SAW THESE YARD SIGNS OUT THERE AND GO WHO WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE? THE SIGNS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE GUYS WENT OUT AND DID THEIR HOMEWORK. THEY WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I THINK THIS IS A MAJOR EMPLOYEE HERE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I'M 100% BEHIND IT.

>> THANK YOU . DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WAS TO SPEAK?

>> I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS. IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK UP .

MANY OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED HERE TODAY WERE MY CONCERNS FROM THE OUTSIDE. I ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HEIGHT AND HOW WE ARE MEASURING HEIGHT . IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR WHEN CONSIDERING REZONING. I ASKED THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY. WHEN I INITIALLY SAW WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE RENDERINGS WERE, I ALSO HEARD SOME OF THE CONCERNS BEING EXPRESSED BY MANY OF THE FOLKS ON THE BOULEVARD ABOUT THE IMPACT. I THINK MR. BURNETT MADE THE POINT THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ASK OURSELVES TODAY IS THIS CONCERNING COMPLEMENTARY SUPPORTIVE OF

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ARNOLD? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US AND MYSELF SO DILIGENTLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS. THIS HAS BEEN A JOURNEY. I THINK MR. BURNETT SAID IT BEST. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT REZONING IN THE LAST 30 DAYS FOR PONTEVEDRA. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET IT RIGHT. IT IS POWERFUL. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE AND IS SPECIAL AND UNIQUE. AND THERE'S GENERATIONAL IMPACT.

IT -- AND HER EXPERIENCES THERE. HAS GENERATIONAL IMPACT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE THAT WAY IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS DOING IT RIGHT. I'M PREPARED, IF NO ONE ELSE IS TO SPEAK, I PREPARE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD?

>> MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023 E- 50 TWO IMPROVE PUD 2023 E- 02 PONTEVEDRA RESORT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. IT'S BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. IS THERE ANY UP FOR DISCUSSION?

>> PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES FOR -1. CONGRATULATIONS.

APPLAUSE ] THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK AND PUBLIC COMMENT TO HELP MAKE THIS PROJECT. WE STILL HAVE A FEW ITEMS OF BUSINESS. I WOULD ASK YOU TO FILE OUT AND DO SO QUIETLY AND AS QUIETLY AS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE TO COMPLETE SOME BUSINESS IN HERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

MADAM VICE CHAIR, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY GET YOUR REPORT.

>> OKAY. >> QUIETLY, PLEASE.

IF EVERYONE CAN TAKE CONVERSATION OUT INTO THE ROTUNDA.

[Public Comment (Part 2 of 2)]

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THANK YOU . THANK YOU . WE STILL HAVE TO COMPLETE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO, MADAM VICE CHAIR, PLEASE TAKE US INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ON

AGENDA ITEMS. >> THAT AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD EVENING. 1748 NORTH CALERO.