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ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ALL RIGHT.
MEAGHAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT.
>> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW.
THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AREA OF JURISDICTION AND BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE COMMENT AT THE DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN FILL OUT THE SIGN-IN SHEET IN THE FOYER.
THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME ON EACH ITEM FOR A LENGTH OF TIME DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH IS THREE MINUTES.
SPEAKERS WILL IDENTIFY WHO THEY REPRESENT AND PRESENT THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RO RECORD. YOU MAY BE SWORN TESTIMONY.
AND IF IT IS NOT SWORN, MAY BE DETERMINED THE TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED.
ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS SHALL BE GIVEN TO THE CLERK FOR INCLUSION IN THE RECORD AND THE RECORD AVAILABLE FOR THE AGENCY AND THE COUNTY FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ITEM.
AGENCY MEMBERS ARE REMINDED AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM, STATE WHETHER THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE OF THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY.
IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED, THE AGENCY MEMBERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION CIVILITY CLAUSE.
WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL EVEN IF WE DISAGREE AND WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL AND AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.
>> THANK YOU, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING ON OR OFF THE ONLY. YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN IT COMES UP. YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT THEN OR NOW.
IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
SEEING NO ONE. MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 1 ON THE
[1. Election of Chair and Vice-Chair.]
AGENDA WHICH IS THE ELECTION OF A NEW CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR.YOU ALL HAVE THE INSTRUCTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU FIRST, I WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR NOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
SEEING NONE -- SO AT THIS POINT -- AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF I GO OVER THE PROCESS. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS I AM GOING TO ASK TO BE NO, MA'AM FATED FOR THE CHAIR.
WE CAN NOMINATE EVERYBODY AND NEED A FIRST AND A SECOND.
I DON'T THINK WE VOTE ON IT, BUT WE NEED A FIRST AND A SECOND, OKAY. ONCE WE HAVE THE LIST FOR CHAIR THEN WE DO A VOTE ON THE FIRST PERSON NOMINATED.
IF THEY GET ENOUGH VOTES TO BE NOMINATED OR ELECTED, THEN THAT PERSON BECOMES THE CHAIR AND WE WILL REPEAT THE PROCESS FOR THE VICE-CHAIR. IS THAT CLEAR AS MUD? ALL RIGHT. RICHARD, I AM GOING TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS AND RICHARD HAS JUMPED THE GUN AND IS ALREADY ON THE QUEUE. YOU ARE FIRST.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: SO I WOULD JUST NOMINATE FOR SHARE AT THIS POINT? YES.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I WILL NOMINATE FROM GRILLING MATOVINA.
HE HAS DONE A FAIR JOB RUNNING THESE MEETINGS AND I WILL HAVE
GREG MATOVINA FOR CHAIR AGAIN. >>GREG MATOVINA: THAT IS A FIRST. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT.
>>ELVIS PIERRE: I SECOND. >>GREG MATOVINA: ELVIS HAS SECONDED THAT. IT IS NOT -- NEVER MIND, IT IS WORKING NOW. THANK YOU.
SO JACK -- >>JACK PETER: I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE MEAGHAN PERKINS. SHE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB SITTING
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AS VICE-CHAIR, SITTING IN AS CHAIR.>>GREG MATOVINA: IS THERE A SECOND ON MEAGHAN.
>> I WILL SECOND IT. >>GREG MATOVINA: GOOD, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO DO IT IF YOU DIDN'T.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR.
ON THIS POINT WE WILL VOTE ON GREG MATOVINA, RICHARD.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: YEA. >>GREG MATOVINA: MEAGHAN.
>>ELVIS PIERRE: NAY. >>GREG MATOVINA: NOW VOTE ON MEAGHAN. ALL RIGHT, MEAGHAN, YOU ARE THE NEW CHAIR. GET UP HERE AND ELECT A VICE-CHAIR. FIRST THEY WILL SHUFFLE THE NAME TAGS. NO, YOU ARE THE CHAIR.
PRESSURE IS ON NOW. >> YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB.
>>GREG MATOVINA: PUT ME OVER BY THE BATHROOM.
>> THAT IS RESERVED FOR HENRY. >>GREG MATOVINA: I GUESS WE DIDN'T DO THE VICE-CHAIR. I WILL JUST SIT IN THIS CHAIR
FOR RIGHT NOW. >> MEAGHAN CAN DO THE VICE-CHAIR
ROTE. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE-CHAIR? I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JACK PETER FOR THE VICE-CHAIR.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: SECOND BY ELVIS. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? CAN I MAKE A NOMINATION. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE DR.
HILSENBECK FOR VICE-CHAIR. >> I SECOND.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: OKAY. SO THEN WE ARE GOING TO VOTE -- ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO VOICE VOTE
FOR VICE-CHAIR FOR JACK. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: YES.
>> YES. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: YES.
[2. SUPMAJ 2023-08 Gate Car Wash.]
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ALL RIGHT. YOU ARE THE VICE-CHAIR.
CONGRATULATIONS. >>GREG MATOVINA: GOOD LUCK.
>>JACK PETER: THANKS. MAY I TAKE MY M &MS.
>> YES, I ALREADY TOOK MINE. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: NEXT UP, WE GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 2MISS ELLEN AT THIS TIME, ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION. DR. HILSENBECK.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I DID SPEAK WE WILL HE WILL ON MONDAY.
AND I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS OF THE GATE CAR WASH AT 207 AT HOMETOWN ROAD AND I TOLD HER I WOULD PROBABLY BE ASKING THEM AT THE
MEETING. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: OKAY.
>> I SPOKE WITH ELLEN MONDAY OR TUESDAY.
AND MY MAIN QUESTION WAS IN PRESIDENT STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS A -- KIND OF A RUNDOWN BY STAFF ON HOW THE SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS WERE MELT AND NOT A NUMBER OF THEM.
NUMBER THREE. SHE GAVE ME THE ANSWER AND I AM SURE WE CAN ADDRESS IT DURING THE MEETING.
>> YES, I HAD A COVERING W WITH ELLEN AVERY-SMITH
YESTERDAY. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: I HAD A VOICEMAIL WITH ELLEN BUT I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND DID NOT RETURN IT BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE QUESTIONS.
BUT THANK YOU FOR CALLING ME. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR THE RECORD, VICE-CHAIRMAN PETER. I LEFT A MESSAGE TO YOU.
I AM SORRY IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT. I ALWAYS TRY TO CALL ALL OF YOU.
OKAY, TO BEGIN. AGAIN, I AM ELLEN AVERY-SMITH, ROGERS TOWERS, 100 WETSTONE PLACE IN ST. AUGUSTINE.
WITH ME FROM GATE PETROLEUM COMPANY IS BECKY HAMILTON REPRESENTING BSC AND GATE. MATT -- I WILL MESS HIS NAME OUT WHO WILL DO THE PLANNING AND CIVIL ENGINEERING FOR GATE FOR THESE SITES. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE ORIENTATION, THE PROJECT OR THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT TWO ACRES LOCATED ALONG HOMETOWN LANE ON STATE ROAD 207.
YOU SEE WHERE HILLTOP ROAD COMES OUT ON 207.
JUST FOR A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH, YOU SEE
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IS THE SITE. AND THEN YOU SEE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS BEHIND. AND YOU ALSO SEE THE POND AND THE WETLANDS BACK IN THIS AREA THAT WILL PROVIDE THE BUFFER AGAINST THE CAR WASH AND THE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG STATE ROAD 207 THAT EXISTS TODAY IN THE AREA.THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY IS MIXED USE DISTRICT AND THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
UNDER THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IN ORDER TO PUT A CAR WASH IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING, YOU NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND SO THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICATION DOCUMENTS UMENTS THAT ARE ON YOUR RECORD TALK TO YOU ABOUT TO DEVELOP THE CAR WASH.
WE NEED THIS -- FOR NCG. WE NEED THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THE APPLICANT WILL COMPLY WITH 20-350 THAT RELATES TO CAR WASH FACILITIES AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN IN JUST A MINUTE FOR THE CAR WASH FACILITY AND THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THAT SUBSECTIONS 50 AS I SHOWED YOU ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH A MINUTE AGO, YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE DEVELOPMENT ALONG STATE ROAD 207 AND RESIDENTIAL AND AN RV PARK BACK OFF OF HOMETOWNLANE AND BUFFERING BETWEEN THE TREES AND PONDS AND SITES TODAY. WE REQUESTED THAT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT RUN WITH TITLE TO THE PROPERTY SINCE THE APPLICANT IS THE CONTRACT PURCHASER AND INVESTING SIGNIFICANT MONEY IN BUILDING THE CAR WASH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT RUN WITH TITLE TO THE PROPERTY AND HAVE A THREE-YEAR DURATION SO GATE HAS THE PROPERTY CLOSED UPON AND GET THE CAR WASH CONSTRUCTED AND THE EQUIPMENT INSTALLED JUST IN CASES THERE A TIME LAG DUE TO MATERIALS, SUPPLIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HERE, AGAIN, IS THE SITE PLAN.
SHOWING YOU THE 100-FOOT DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL. IT SHOWS YOU THE LOCATION OF THE STORMWATER POND. YOU NOTICE NO WETLAND IMPACTS AND YOU SEE THE CAR WASH WITH THE TUNNEL, THE BACKGROUND AREA BETWEEN THE TUNNEL AND 207 AND THE ACCESS POINTS FROM HOMETOWN LANE. IN YOUR STAFF REPORT STAFF HAD COMMENTS OF THE ACCESS POINTS. THESE ARE ILLUSTRATIVE OF THE POINT. WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SITE ACCESS CRITERIA AND WHAT MATT AND DICK DESOUZA CAN TALK ABOUT WHEN THEY GO TO CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL. CAR WASH OPERATION 8 A.M. TO 8 P.M. NO OVERNIGHT HOURS. A MINIMUM OF TWO EMPLOYEES ON-SITE AT ALL TIMES INCLUDING A MANAGER AND ASSISTANT MANAGER AND THAT CAR WASH TUNNEL IS ENCLOSED.
ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS WITHIN THE BUILDING AND WILL ACT AS A NOISE BARRIER AND A VISUAL BARRIER SO THE STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE SAME BECAUSE YOU ARE HOPEFULLY OUR FINAL STOP.
WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> ELLEN, I ASKED YOU THIS ON THE PHONE.
AND COULD YOU PUT THE AERIAL PHOTO BACK UP AND POINT OUT THE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE. BECAUSE WE HAD AN ITEM A YEAR AGO. SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT A COFFEE SHOP -- YOU WEREN'T THE REPRESENTATIVE OR AGENT FOR THAT ONE. BUT SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT A COFFEE SHOP THERE, AND THE MANAGER OF THE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE -- I BELIEVE IT IS THE DOLLAR GENERAL.
>> I THINK IT WAS. I WAS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DAY AND I WAS NOT THE APPLICANT. I AM NOT SURE -- MISS BISHOP, MAYBE YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN I.
IS THIS THE SAME SITE? TO THE SOUTHWEST.
SO IT IS NOT. THERE IS NO PROPOSED ACCESS THROUGH THAT. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE MANAGER
OBJECTED TO THAT VEHEMENTLY. >> GO AHEAD, TERESA.
>>TERESA BISHOP: THIS IS NOT THE SAME SITE.
THE COFFEE SHOP SITE WAS ACTUALLY TO THE SOUTH.
I GUESS THAT IS TO THE SOUTHWEST SO IT WAS -- THEY WERE USING ACCESS THE HOMETOWN LANE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OF THE DOLLAR GENERAL. THIS SITE IS NOT DOING THAT.
>> OKAY. FURTHERMORE, I MENTIONED THIS MORE OF A COMMENT AND I WILL SAY IT ANY WAY AT THIS POINT.
I SAID -- I PERSONALLY DIDN'T LIKE AUTOMATED CAR WASHES BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY USED TOO TOUCHDOWN WATER AND I LIKE THE
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OLD-FASHIONED WAY OF WASHING MY VEHICLE ON THE DRIVEWAY.I LOOKED IT UP AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD HAVE BECKY HAMILTON EXPLAIN SOME OF THE MODERN TECHNIQUES.
I DON'T NEED THAT. BUT I DID LOOK THIS UP.
AND AUTOMATED CAR WASHES USE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 65 AND 80 GALLONS PER CAR. AND WASHING IN YOUR DRIVEWAY -- WILL DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE CAR OR THE NOZZLE ON THE HOSE IS BETWEEN 40 AND 100. THEY ARE -- PARDON THE PUN, SEEMS THEY ARE ABOUT "A WASH" IN USE OF WATER.
SO THAT WAS MY COMMENT THERE. >> I ALSO LEARNED TOO -- MATT, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP IF CORRECT ME IF I SAY ANYTHING.
BUT THE FACT THAT THE CAR WASH REUSES THE CAR WASH WATER -- A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF IT AND DISCHARGES THE CAR WASH WATER INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM AND NOT THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.
IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM, THAT IS RIGHT, MATT MILKCORY WITHPROSSER, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, RICHARD.
RESIDENTIAL WHEN YOU ARE WASHING IT IN YOUR DRIVEWAYS.
THE NUMBERS WE HAVE UP TO 140 GALLONS, ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 140. AND THE GATE CAR WASH TECHNOLOGY IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 50 GALLONS PER CAR AND 65% OF THAT IS ACTUALLY RECLAIMED WATER. THEY REUSE IT FOR THE FIRST WASH AND CAN USE IT LIKE WASHING THE UNDERCARRIAGE WHICH IS FRANKLY THE BULK OF IT. SO 64% OF THAT IS RECLAIMED WATER AND THE REMAINDER, GOES TO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM.
NONE OF IT IS GOING TO STORMS, PONDS OR ANYTHING IF WASHING IT
TO OUR HOUSE. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY,
THANK YOU. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANYBODY ELSE
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>GREG MATOVINA: GLAD TO KNOW I AM SUCH AN ENVIRONMENTALIST SINCE I USED THE CAR WASH.
>> I AM TOO. BECAUSE I AM TOO SHORT TO WASH
THE TOP OF MY CAR. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: OKAY.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS? OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT? PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD,
PROPERTY OWNER 1515 207, ST. AUGUSTINE.
I AM THE PERSON HE REFERENCED BEFORE, THE LANDLORD OF DOLLAR GENERAL. I RECENTLY GOT THE NOTICE FOR THIS. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE SPECIAL USE. I THINK THIS IS AS GOOD AS ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD GO THERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THOUGH BECAUSE WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE LAST YEAR WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
NOW THIS WILL ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO THE HOMETOWN LANE WHICH IS A SMALL ROAD. BASICALLY LIKE A DRIVEWAY THAN A THOROUGHFARE. AND THAT IMPACT ON THE IMMEDIATE AREA WILL HEIGHTEN OUR CONCERN WITH WHAT I HAVE TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. SO NEXT TIME AN APPLICATION COMES IN, WHATEVER IT IS, WHATEVER CONCERNS I HAD, THIS IMPACT WILL HEIGHTEN THOSE CONCERNS.
AND THE RESULT OF THAT WOULD BE -- -- IT IS MORE NECESSARY THAT WHEN THAT PROPERTY WHEN IT IS DEVELOPED HAVE AN ACCESS ON TO 207. SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CARS TO ACCESS THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT CAUSING MORE CONGESTION ON THIS SMALL ROAD WHICH IS BASICALLY A DRIVEWAY.
I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD SO IT IS THERE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. AS FAR AS THIS SITE PLAN IS CONCERNED, I HAVE SOME CONCERN. PROBABLY MINOR RATHER THAN MAJOR. IF I CAN TALK TO THEM IT, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK IT OUT WITH THEM.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 2? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AS MISS BISHOP STATED, THIS IS NOT THE SAME PROPERTY THAT WENT THROUGH THE DOLLAR GENERAL OR PROPOSING TO GO THROUGH THE DOLLAR GENERAL PARKING LOT. A SEPARATE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WILL ACCESS THE ROAD. THE PROPERTY IS XHEFRGS GENERAL AND ZONING RIGHTS TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USE.
SO I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME THAT IT IS HARD FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE OR OWN BUSINESSES NEXT TO VACANT LAND TO SHARE PUBLIC ROADS AND THINGS, BUT THAT IS A REALITY. AND SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND MATT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT WE CAN NOT ACCESS STATE ROAD 207. THE ACCESS NEEDS TO COME FROM HOMETOWN LANE. HE IS SAYING THAT IS CORRECT.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
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DR. HILSENBECK? >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: LET ME JUST ASK THIS. YOU COULD ACCESS 207 IF YOU WENT THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PROCESS TO TRY TO GET THAT ACCESS, IS THAT CORRECT, OR NO?
COME UP. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: JUST A
QUICK ANSWER. >> HE IS THE ENGINEER SO I WANT
HIM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> WE HAVE -- I TRIED TO GIVE A QUICK ONE. WE DID NOT APPROACH D.O.T. ABOUT THIS, BUT BASED ON THE ACCESS STANDARDS, I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THEY WOULD ALLOW ANY KIND OF ACCESS ALONG STATE ROAD 207.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THEY WOULD
DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: SO MY QUESTION WAS COULD YOU OR DID YOU CONTACT F. D.O.T. AND YOU COULD HAVE, BUT YOU THINK THEY WOULD HAVE DENIED IT. YOU THINK WITH HOME HOMETOWN
ROAD, THE BEST SOLUTION. >> SAFEST ACCESS POINT.
DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT THERE.
THE BETTER ACCESS POINT. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY,
THANK YOU. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR
MOTION. >>GREG MATOVINA: I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF SUPMAJ 2023-08 GATE CAR WASH BASED ON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACTS AND SIX CONDITIONS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT INCLUDING THE CONDITIONS RELATED TO RUNNING WITH THE
[3. SUPMAJ 2023-10 Fruit Cove Plaza Outdoor Seating Area.]
TITLE OF THE PROPERTY AND THREE YEARS TO START COMMENCEMENT OF>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: A MOTION OF APPROVAL BY MR. MATOVIN.
AND A SECOND BY MR. PETER. ANY DISCUSSION? IF WE CAN GET THE VOTING UP. THAT MOTIONS PASSES.
ITEM TO NUMBER 3. MR. TOURING.
WHILE HE IS COMING UP, ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE? GOOD AFTERNOON. CONGRATULATIONS CHAIRWOMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN. I AM DAVID TOURING.
THE ENGINEER OF RECORD WITH THE TOURING COMPANY AND THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK I AM DOING HERE. THERE IT IS, SLOW BUT TRAINABLE.
A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION FOR AN EXISTING RETAIL CENTER.
AN EXISTING TENANT THAT OWNS AND OPERATES A RESTAURANTS AND THEY ARE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING OUTDOOR SERVING AND SEATING FOR PAT PATRONS.
THEY ARE PROPOSING A COVERED FENCE OUTDOOR SEATING AREA THAT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY.
AS I MENTIONED, IT IS AN EXISTING RESTAURANT TENANT.
THE RESTAURANT IS CALLED BELLA VISTA.
THEY HAVE AN EXISTING BEER AND WINE LICENSE.
THEY ARE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA OF ABOUT 551 SQUARE FEET. AND THEIR PLANS ARE TO SERVE FOOD AND BEVERAGES PER THE EXISTING LICENSE THAT THEY HAVE.
THIS LOCATION IS ON STATE ROUTE 540, ROUTE 13 IN FRUIT COVE JUST SOUTH OF GILLIAN CREEK, I BELIEVE.
HERE IS THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH AND THE REAL ESTATE NUMBER THAT WAS OBTAINED FROM THE COUNTY'S WEB SITE.
THE ZONING IS CG -- I DON'T THINK -- I THINK I MIGHT HAVE NEGLECTED TO INCLUDE THE LAND USE OR FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IT IS ALSO COMMERCIAL. HERE IS A GOOGLE STREET VIEW.
EXISTING RESTAURANT THAT IS ON THE END OF THE RETAIL CENTER.
THEIR PLANS ARE TO PROVIDE A OUTDOOR SEATING AREA THAT EXTENDS OUT TO THE PARKING LOT AND THE PARKING WILL BE LOCATED TO ANOTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
IT DIDN'T TURN OUT TOO GOOD, DID IT? I AM SHOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE IT PROPERLY, BUT THE -- THE
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ADDITION IS IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT AREA OF THE SITE PLAN.AND IT EXTENDS OUT INTO THE PARKING AREA.
AND I AM HOPING THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT.
I WAS UNAWARE IT WOULD SHOW UP THIS BAD.
HERE ARE SOME RENDERS OF -- WHAT THE ARCHITECT PREPARED.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATION WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO ADD TO THE RESTAURANT FACILITY HERE IS ANOTHER RENDERING. IT IS PRETTY MUCH -- A PRETTY SIMPLE APPLICATION. THE OWNER OF THE FACILITY IS HERE. AND THE OWNER OF THE TENANT -- THE TENANT OF THE RESTAURANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO ANSWER.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I HAVE A COUPLE.
YOU PARTIALLY ADDRESSED ONE. I WAS CONCERNED OF ADEQUATE PARKING BEING AVAILABLE. IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO POTENTIALLY MOVE A COUPLE OF DISABLED SPACES.
I AM NOT TO POSITIVE OF THAT. >> WE DID NOT REMOVE THE DISABLED SPACE. WE LEFT IT THERE.
WE REMOVED TWO SPACES AND PROVIDED TEN IN THE BACK.
THE PROJECT IS UNDER A NONDRC REVIEW.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS HE HAD WAS PARKING.
I HAVE DONE ON THE CALCULATIONS ON IT AND WE MEET THE CODE WITH TEN OTHER SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED ON CODE FOR THE ENTIRE FAC FACILITY.
WE DID THE ANALYSIS OF THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOT OF THE RETAIL SPACE INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SEATING AND THE CODE, I BELIEVE, IS ONE SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FEET OF NONSTORAGE SPACE, WHICH REQUIRES ABOUT 64, 65 SPACES. SORRY IF I CAN'T REMEMBER AND WE
HAVE 725. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I ACTUALLY HAVE THREE QUESTIONS. TWO LEFT -- THE FIRST -- WELL, THE SECOND ONE ACTUALLY. I BELIEVE IT IS STATED IN THE APPLICATION -- YOU MAYBE I AM WRONG, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. BUT YOU WERE 385 FEET FROM AN EXISTING RESIDENT OR MAYBE IT WAS 285, WASN'T A SCALE ON THE PHOTO AND I COULDN'T DETERMINE. IT LOOKED CLOSER THAT THE RESTAURANT WAS RESIDENTIAL. IT IS AN EXISTING RENTAL AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL BUT WILL YOU CLARIFY OF THE DISTANCE TO RESIDENCES PARTICULARLY THAT -- IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE EXISTING RESTAURANT. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW BUT I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU IF YOU FEEL IT IS NECESSARY. BASED ON THE EXISTING FACILITY,
I DIDN'T CALCULATE THE DISTANCE. >> IT WAS IN THE APPLICATION.
I JUST DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT I RECALL 385 MAYBE OR 285. BUT I THINK SHE WILL ANSWER THE QUES QUESTION.
>> IF CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? LAUREN DWYER WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY. AND I HAVE THE MEASUREMENT FROM OUR GIS TOOLS, THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, THE TOTAL FACILITY TO THE NEAREST RESIDENCE TO THE WEST IS 385 FEET.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: IT IS 385.
>> YES. THEY HAVE GOT -- FROM THE BACK -- SORRY, NOT FROM THE BACK BUT THE SIDE WHERE THEY ARE DOING THE OUTDOOR SEATING TO THE NEARBY RESIDENTS 385 FEET. THE
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. >> YES.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: ONE PERSON INQUIRED OF NOISE FROM THE OUTDOOR SEATING AND ALONG THE STATE ROUTE 13 CORRIDOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT YOU ARE LESS THAN 1,000 FEET FROM THE CHURCH AND YOU ALREADY HAVE THE LICENSE. THE PERMITS.
THAT HAS MOVED, I SUPPOSE. >> THEY ARE INTENDING TO USE THE EXISTING SPACES THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THANK YOU.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: MR. PETER. >>JACK PETER: I JUST HAVE A QUESTION -- GOING BACK TO THE NOISE.
ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A MUSIC OR A BAND SET-UP HERE?
>> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. A FANCY SIT-DOWN TYPE RESTAURANT AND I JUST WANT -- ANY MUSIC. THIS IS THE RESTAURANT OWNER.
>> HI, EVERYONE, I AM GIOVANNI, THE OWNER OF BELLA VISTA.
WE ARE NOT PLANNING ANY LIVE MUSIC OR BIG EVENT WITH LOUD MUSIC. WE WILL PUT LIKE A LITTLE MUSIC LIKE VERY LOW, THAT WILL BE LIKE SPEAKERS, SMALL SPEAKERS THE SAME MUSIC WE HAVE IN THE RESTAURANT.
AND WE ARE PRETTY SURE THAT WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO DO ANY LIVE
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EVENT. FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE A FULL LIQUOR LICENSE, SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SELL COCKTAILS AND EVERYTHING. BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE LIKE A EXTERNAL MUSIC FOR OUR CLIENTS TO ENJOY DINNER OUTSIDE.>> GREAT, THANK YOU. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 3. SEEING NONE.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I COMMENT BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION.
I BELIEVE I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY THE PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
IT IS RESIDENTIAL-B WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASON FOR THE OUTDOOR SEATING. IT IS ALLOWED WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH A SPECIAL USE IN CONNECTION WITH
THE BEER AND WINE SALES. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANYBODY ELSE WITH ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A
MOTION MR. PETER. >>JACK PETER: MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2023-10, FRUIT KCOVE FRUIT COVE PLAZA
OUTDOOR SEATING AREA. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: A MOTION BY
[4. NZVAR 2023-08 Walmart Fruit Cove Market Signs.]
MR. PETER AND A SECOND FROM DR. HILSENBECK.ANY DISCUSSION? >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: INCREDIBLE REVIEW ON THE APP ACCORDING MY WIFE AND THEY DO A
TREMENDOUS JOB. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: I READ THOSE REVIEWS TOO. IT LOOKS GOOD.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES.
CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ITEM NUMBER 4, MR. MARK BRENCHLEY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE? GOOD AFTERNOON.
3980 BEACON RIDGEWAY. I'M HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY. JANUARY SQUARE ONE LLC IS THE OWNER THAT HAS THE WALMART AND SHOPPING CENTER.
GILLIAN SQUARE LLC HAVE OWN IT SINCE 2012.
THE BUILDING -- THE WALMART BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1988.
SO 35 YEARS OLD. A VERY TIRED BUILDING.
AND WALMART IS WAKING UP ALL OF THEIR OLDER BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA WITH NATIONAL REBRANDING CHANGE.
THEY ARE GOING FROM THE -- I WILL SHOW YOU THAT -- A LIGHT PHOTO, BUT THE BOMB TOMORROW SHOWS THE EXISTING SIGN AND SHOWS THAT GREEN CURRENT COLOR THAT HAS BEEN THEIR BRANDING FOR 20 YEARS, TO THE TOP ONE WHICH IS THE PROPOSED SIGN WITH THE WALMART BLUE PAINT ON THE WALL WITH THE WHITE CHANNEL LETTERS AND SUNBURST LOGO. I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS IS A VARIANCE. THIS OUTLINES EXACTLY WHAT THE TWO ISSUES ARE. THE ONE LARGE SIGN EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM AREA OF 150 SQUARE FEET FOR AN IDENTIFY SIGN.
AND THE TOTAL FOR ALL THE SIGNS ON THE FRONT WALL FACING EITHER TO THE INTERSECTION -- INTERSECTION OF RACETRACK AND 13 IS OVER 00 SQUARE FEET. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE WILL -- YOU SEE THE STATE ROAD 13 ON THE LEFT.
THEN A RACETRACK ON THE NORTH AND A BANK OUTPARCEL THERE IN THE CORNER. THIS IS THE PROPOSED CHANGE REALLY. WALMART IS INCLUDING NOW THE NAME OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE LOCATING -- OR THEY HAVE THE STORE LOCATED. PART OF THEIR REBRAND.
EVERY ONE OF THESE IS NOW EXCLUSIVELYIEDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY ARE LOCATING IN.
CURRENTLY I HAVE BEEN REPRESENTING WALMART FOR TEN OF THESE WAKE-UP ENHANCEMENTS. AND EVERY ONE OF THEM HAVE
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CHANGED IT FROM EITHER A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET TO THE NAME OF THE COMMUNITY TO BECOME MORE INCLUE SIEVE AND ALSO, I GUESS, TO ENCOURAGE THE IDENTITY OF THIS PARTICULAR STORE.THE TOP CHART SHOWS THE VERY -- AND THE EXISTING SIGNAGE.
YOU CAN SEE IS THE MIDDLE RIGHT -- THE THOUGH TALL FIGURE OF 271.62 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS A TOTAL OF ALL THE SIGNS ON THAT MAIN FACADE FACING THAT INTERSECTION.
AND YOU HAVE IT LISTED SIGNS OVER THERE.
THE NEW TOTAL AREA IS ONLY INCREASING 15 FEET BEYOND WHAT IT IS NOW. THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOT AREA OF THE SIRENAGE. YOU SEE IN THE -- THIS SLIDE.
YOU MIGHT PEA A COMPLIMENT TO OUR STAFF.
TREVOR STEVEN HAVE BEEN MOST ENGAGING AND A REAL AMBASSADOR WITH YOUR COUNTY. IN SEEPING IN APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A UPLOADING PROCESS, IT CAN BECOME VERY IMPERSONAL AND COLD BUT TREVOR HAS REACHED OUT TO ME A NUMBER OF TIMES ON THE PHONE AS WELL AS E-MAILS TO ASSIST ME IN PRESENTING THIS APPLICATION TO YOU IN A UNDERSTANDABLE WAY AND TO THE COUNTY STAFF. THESE TWO SLIDES ARE HIS CREATION, SHOWING THE DRAMATIC SETBACK DISTANCES THAT THIS WALMART IS SET BACK FROM THE -- THE STREETS, HIGHWAY 13 ON THE LEFT AND RACETRACK ON THE ROAD. EXTREME SETBACK IS 500 AND SOMETHING FEEL. ALSO BEHIND THAT FRONTAGE BUILDING, COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE BANK AND LANDSCAPING AND SO FORTH. THE HARDSHIP THAT THIS PROJECT IS PRESENTING, THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING IS BEYOND A TYPICAL SETBACK OF A COMMERCIAL. AND THE NEED FOR LARGER SIGN -- LARGER IDENTIFICATION ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO BE MORE REASONABLE AND HISTORICAL SIGN AREAS HAVE SHOWN IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND VIABLE. UP ON THE STUPER LEFT, TREVOR HAS INCLUDED A GOOGLE STREET VIEW SHOWING EXACTLY HOW BLOCKED AND OBJECT KERR THE COMMERCIAL FACADES ARE OBSCURE THE COMMERCIAL FACADES ARE BEHIND THE TREES AND THE DISTANCE.
TO SUMMER RISE, THIS IS ON THE BOTTOM SHOWING THE GREEN CAB NAENTD REPLACED BY CHAUNL LETTERS THAT HAVE A -- THAT ARE BACK LIT IT WILL APPEAR NOT ONLY DURING THE BY BUT DURING THE NIGHT IN PRESIDENT ILLUMINATION DESIGN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: MEMBERS? SEEING NONE. MR. PETER.
>>JACK PETER: DID YOU EVER DEVELOP A DESIGN WITHIN THE CURRENT SQUARE FOOTAGE SPACE? YES -- THE ARCHITECTS ARE IN ORLANDO. AND THEY TELL ME THE GENERAL SIZED FOR THE CHANNEL LEVELS AND GOING BACK TO THE PROPOSAL.
THEY ARE ADDING THE FRUIT COVE MARKET.
AND INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE -- OF THE LETTERS OF ADDRESS.
THAT IS NOT REALLY A SIGNAGE ISSUE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST IT. THEY TELL ME THEY TRIED EVERYTHING WITHIN 9 WALMART REBRANDING YI TERESA BASED ON THE SETBACK THAT THEY HAVE A PRETTY DDECENT VISUAL DETERMINATION WHAT IS VISIBILITY BASED ON BUSINESSES AND SO FOR FORTH.
THIS IS THE MINIMUM VARIANCE THAT THEY REQUEST.
>> IS THAT A NO? >> THEY HAVE STUDIED OTHER
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SCENARIOS, BUT THIS ONE 15 FEET LARGER THAN THE CURRENTPROPOSAL. >> SEEMS TO ME THAT WALMART HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE LATE '80S? PROBABLY SINCE -- IT WAS A GROCERY STORE PRIOR TO THAT AS TREVOR TOLD ME.
THEY HAVE BEEN THERE SENSE 2012. >> THE WALMART?
YEAH. >> A GOOD BET EVERYBODY KNOWS IT
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER 4.
SEEING NONE. WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR QUESTIONS OR A MOTION. MR. MATOVINA.
>>GREG MATOVINA: MOTION TO APPROVAL NZVAR 2023-08 WALMART
[5. REZ 2023-10 135 Nix Boat Yard.]
FRUIT COVE MARKET SIGNS SUBJECT TO FIVE CONDITIONS AS PROVIDEDIN THE STAFF REPORT. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. ELVIS SECTONDED IT. ANY DISCUSSION IN GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 5, MR. DAVENPORT ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS?, ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS?,ANYBODY HAVE AN COMMUNICATIONS?. ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNI COMMUNICATIONS? GOOD AFTERNOON, GARY DAVENPORT, ST. AUGUSTINE.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WHO. ED PURCHASED IT A MONTH AGO.
FARVE BITES. IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH FISH BITES. A LOCAL COMPANY THAT HAS TWO OTHER PROPERTIES LOCATED ON NICK'S BOATYARD.
WHEN THE PROPERTY BECAME AVAILABLE, THEY PURCHASED IT TO EXPAND THE OPERATION WITHIN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE IN. THE CURRENT ZONING IS O.R.
WE ARE ASKING REZONED FROM O.R. TO CW.
WE HAVE DIED IN YOUR BOOK THAT STAFF PREPARED THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN MEAN. YOU CAN BASICALLY SEE AN ITEM OF OR RIGHT HERE. COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL. THE COMMERCIAL IN THE CITY AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE OLD SONNY'S COMPLEX THAT IS BEING I UNDERSTAND BEING PROPOSED TO BE ANOTHER CAR WASH.
SONNY'S BEHIND IT -- SORRY HOME DEPOT BEHIND IT AND THE CITY -- THE GRAYED-OUT AREA IS THE CITY'S COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTERS ACROSS THE STREET. THE EBB EXISTING AND PREVIOUS USE WAS A DAY CARE FACILIT. THE LA PETTE CHILD CARE.
THEY HAD THAT VESTED RIGHT IN THERE.
THIS IS POINT 6 ACRE SITE AND NO COMMERCIALLY VIABLE USES WITHIN THE OR THAT YOU CAN PUT THERE. IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ZONED COMMERCIAL. YOU ARE PROPOSING TO BE ZONED TO COMMERCIAL WEAR HOUSE WITH CONDITIONS WHICH I WILL GET INTO BECAUSE FISH BITES DOES HAVE I LIGHT MANUFACTURING IN THEIR FACILITY. THEY MAKE AN ARTIFICIAL BAET.
BASICALLY MORE LIKE AN OVEN, NOT HARMFUL OR TOXIC AND A LOT OF SELLS. SINCE THEY WILL POSSIBLY DO MANUFACTURING IN THERE, THEY WANT TO DO THAT CW ZONING.
THE CITY ZONING I WAS REFERRING T TO. YOU CAN SEE THE GRAY AND RED AREA. ALL COMMERCIAL CITY ZONING.
THE COUNTY COMP PLAN IS MIXED USE.
AND THE CITY FUTURE LAND USE IS ALSO COMMERCIAL.
AND, AGAIN, I THINK SOME COUNTY MAPS YOU HAVE IN YOUR BOOK ARE BETTER THAN MINE ON THOSE. YOU CAN SEE THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY. THE HE ISSISTING FACILITY IS PRETTY MUCH IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER WHERE THE BUILDING IS. WEST TO THE OFFICE.
NEXT DOOR WILL BE REMOVED AND AREAS WILL HAVE TO BE BUFFERS BROWS IT IS NEXT TO AN OFFICE. THE WAREHOUSE NEXT TO THE OFFICE WILL HIRE BUFFERS AND WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THAT PLAYGROUND AREA. THE CONDITIONS WE ARE PROPOSING TO WORK THROUGH STAFF ON WITH ALL THESE CONDITIONS.
THE USE WILL BE LIMITED TO LIGHT MANUFACTURING, PACKAGING,
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PRODUCTION, SHIPPING, ASSOCIATED OFFICE SPACE, SHOWROOM.ALL THE USES WILL BE PULLEDLY ENCLOSED.
NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OR OUTDOOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN PARKING AND LOADING ZONES. SO A LITTLE BIT -- I AM NOT GOING TO WE HAD THIS ALL TO YOU, BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF FISH BITES. IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THE STORY OF DR. CARR, I GREW UP OBJECT THE WATER.
BASICALLY A PH.D. UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
DEVELOPED HIS LIFE FOR DEVELOP CAN ARTIFICIAL BATES.
HE LAUNCHED HIS FISH BITES COMPANY THATS HAD BEEN HUGELY SUCCESSFUL AROUND THE WORLD. AND YOU CAN FIND THEM AT A ANY BAIT STORE LOCALLY OR AROUND THE WORLD AND LOCATED IN ST.
AUGUSTINE ARE REHAB STORE. AND A LONG HISTORY IN ST.
NICK'S BOAT YARD AND OUTGROWINGERS THAT.
WANT TO TUESDAY IT TO STORAGE AND SO THEY ARE NOT LOCATING IN ONE BIG AREA. THEY WANT TO STAY IN THIS AREA AND THIS PROPERTY ALLOWED THEM TO DO THAT.
ACTUALLY I HAVE MR. DIYLAN GER F YOU ARE WITH ANY OF THE QUESTIONS. I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. MEGAN MEGHAN ANY AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DR. HILSENBECK.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I HAVE ONE.
IT IS NOT PERTINENT OF APPROVING THIS OR NORTHWEST.
I'M CURIOUS WHERE THE EXISTING DAY-CARE CENTER IS GOING TO RELOCATE OR IS IT JUST VANISHING.
I KNOW DAY CARE AN ISSUE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I AM CURIOUS. DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER? I KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF THE ANSWER.
THAT DAY CARE WAS A NATION STALL CHAIN AND MOVED AND CLOSED AND OPENED YOU TOO TO MARKETING CONDITIONS.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY WILL BE LOCATING RIGHT NOW IN ST.
AUGUSTINE. NOT LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND SHUT DOWN A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THANK YOU.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME UP.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> BRITTANY WERKINS.
THE ONLIER OF THE BOTH YARD AND THE AGENCY NEXT DOOR.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF THE BUFFER YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE. ARE YOU DOING THAT WHERE THE FENCE LINE IS? I AM NOT CLEAR ON 9 SITE MARCH, TRAFFIC, SHIPPING. WHAT KIND OF CLIENTELE.
WE DO BUSINESS NEXT DOORS AND WANT TO KNOW THE PROPERTY LINE.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: HE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> TERRY DILLINGER SPANISH OAKS LANE, ST. AUGUSTINE.
I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
NOT SHIPPING THAT IS COMING OUT OF THERE.
JUST EMPLOYEES PARKING THERE. ALL WE HAVE IS -- WE WILL CHANGE THE GATE STRUCTURE TO HAVE AN ACCESS TO THE BACK SIDE.
WE WILL MOVE THE GATE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
BESIDE THAT, FENCING IS REMAINING THE SAME.
NOTHING IN THE BUILDING. THAT WILL BE PACKAGING AND A LITTLE LIGHT MANUFACTURING. NO SHIPPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NOTHING LIKE THAT IS CHANGING.
NOT ANY MORE TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE.
>> I THINK THIS WILL BE A GOOD TOUCH.
BECAUSE A RUN-DOWN ABANDONED BUILDING.
I OWN A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES TO HERE.
WE ARE TRYING TO CONDUCT BUSINESS ON A BUSY ROAD AND
SEMIS COMING OUT. >> THERE WILL BE LESS TRAFFIC IN THE BUILDING THAN THERE WAS BEFORE.
BEFORE BEING A DAYCARE. PEOPLE COMING DAY ON OUT.
BUT PEOPLE WHO WILL JUST BE PARKED THERE WORKING.
>> PERFECT. >> SPECIFICALLY TO THE BUFFER AND I TALKED TO SELENA AND IT WASN'T IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I BELIEVE IT IS A 20-FOOT BUFFER AND VEGETATED.
ADD TREE IN THERE AND A SOLID FENCE.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR MOTION.
[6. REZ 2023-14 5461 & 5467 A1A S..]
MR. PETER. >>JACK PETER: MOTION TO
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RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2023-10 135 NIX BOAT YARD AND FOUR CONDITIONS OF FACT AND FOR CONCERNS MEGHAN MEGAN A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY TO VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES.CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER SIX.
MR. MILLER. ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE? HOW IS IT GOING TODAY. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
COMING BEFORE YOU LOOKING TO REZONE FOUR ADJACENT LOTS.
ADJACENT TO SIX OTHER PARCELS WE HAVE DONE PREVIOUS ME.
AND LOOKING TO REZONE THAT FROM CN TO RS 3.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: DO YOU MEAN COMMERCIAL GENERAL?
>> WE ARE GOING FROM CN TO RS-3. RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
CURRENTLY ZONED CN AND TRYING TO REZONE IT TO RS 3.
THE PARCEL IS LOCATED ON A1A BETWEEN MICKLER AND PALMETTO.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. THE LOTS THAT WERE RECENTLY REZONED. HIGHLIGHTED AGAIN BY THIS AERIAL. YOU CAN SEE THE SIX PARCELS TO THE SOUTH. WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THE TWO TO THE FRONT ON A 1A AND TO THE FIRST OF THE REAR ON FIRST STREET. THE SITE PLAN IS SIMILAR WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST ON THOSE ADJACENT PIECES.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE FOUR HOME HOMESITES. LOT 9, 10, 19 AND 20 WHICH ARE IN THE REAR. THERE IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN FOR THE SITE AS WELL. A RENDERING FOR THE HOME TO BE BUILT, SINGLE-FAMILY. THREE TO FOUR-BEDROOM CONSIDERATION WITH A ONE-CAR GARAGE.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE HOME HAND THIS IS OUTLINING -- WE COULD HAVE UP TO FIVE BEDROOMS WITH A PLAN TO HAVE FOUR AND A FAMILY ROOM. 1824 SQUARE FEET AND THE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS ARE HIGHLIGHTED THERE AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: DR.
HILSENBECK. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: CAN YOU TALK OF YOUR ACCESS ON TO A 1A THERE? YES, IN THE PAST, WHEN WE DID ACTION THEY MADE US DO ONE DRIVEWAY TO MATCH THE SECOND LOT.
THEY GAVE US A THIRD ONE. I WOULD EXPECT TO DO A JOINTED DRIVEWAY FOR THE TWO PLOTS ON A 1A.
>> YOU ARE SOUTH OF MAIN MANAGEMENT DID.
THAT'S CORRECT. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I GO THERE AND TOUGH TO GET BACK ON A 1A.
WE HAVE A TURN AROUND WHEN WE DO THE ADJACENT PIECES AND THE SAME SO YOU CAN BACK THE CAR OUT AND PULL FORWARD.
>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 6.
HEARING NONE? BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.
MR. PETER? >>JACK PETER: NOTION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZ 2023-14, 5461 AND 5467 A 1A SOUTH BASED ON
[Staff Reports]
FINDINGS OF FACTS. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
>>ELVIS PIERRE: SECOND. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: SECOND BY MR. PIERRE. ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S RECORD OUR VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES.
>> THERE ARE NO STAFF REPORTS; HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO
[Agency Reports]
CONGRATULATE MISS PERKINS AND MR. PETER ON THEIR CHAIR ANDVICE-CHAIR. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. MATOVINA FOR LEADING THE CHARGE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AND WE ARE ALL THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
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>>GREG MATOVINA: EVEN A BLIND SQUIRREL CAN FIND AN ACORN FOR A
PERIOD OF TIME. >> AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY TWO CENTS IN WITH THAT TOO. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MISS PERKINS. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE D DONE.
>>GREG MATOVINA: THANK YOU. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: ANY AGENCY
REPORTS? >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I HAVE A QUESTION. I WANT KNOW WHO IS SITTING THERE WHERE MIKE ROBERSON NORMALLY SITS.
I AM CURIOUS. I NEVER SEEN THE PERSON BEFORE THAT I KNOW OF. I WANT TO KNOW.
>> I AM BEVERLY FRAZIER. I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT. MIKE IS IN MEETINGS AND HE WAS
UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I
HEARD YOUR NAME. >> SOCIAL DISTANCING WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS. ANYTHING HAPPENING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD SEAT? THEY ARE OUT FOR APPLICATIONS.
AND LOOKING AT APPLICANTS. >> OKAY.
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