Oct 03, 2023 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

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>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ST. JOHNS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION PERCENT. MATERIALS ON THE COUNTY WEB SITE UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES. ONCE YOU FIND THE AGENDA, CLICK ON ITEM TO ACCESS ALL THE SUPPORTING MATERIAL.

THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEM.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

IF PRESENTER HAVE EXHIBITS OR PHOTOGRAPHS, PROVIDE THE MATERIAL TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT FOR INCLUSION INTO THE RECORD. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: PRESENT.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: PRESENT. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: PRESENT.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: PRESENT. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: PRESENT.

>> I WILL ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE STAND AND INVITE PASTOR TO LEAD US IN THIS MORNING'S INNOVATION.

PASTOR, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. LET'S BOW OUR HEADS IN PRAYER.

GOD ALMIGHTY, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY. WE DO ASK YOU, GOD, THAT YOU POUR OUT YOUR TRUTH, YOUR GRACE, YOUR WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWLEDGE TO FLOW INTO AND INTO THIS MEDIAN THAT WE COME UP WITH THE BEST PLANS, STRATEGIES AND AGENDA FOR THIS COUNTY, FATHER. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSING OVER THIS COUNTY, FATHER AND PROTECTION OVER PSALMS 91 OVER THIS COUNTY IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: NOW TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LIEUTENANT COMMANDER OF U.S. COAST GUARD.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

[Proclamation Recognizing EPIC Behavioral Healthcare 50th Anniversary]

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, SIR, VERY MUCH. WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS THIS MORNING. FIRST IS GOING TO BE THE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE 50TH ANNIVE ANNIVERSARY.

>> GOOD MORNING. IS PATTY GREEN OUT HERE? COME ON UP. I LOVE THIS CHARITY.

>> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, WHEREAS, A GROUP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONCERNED ABOUT YOUTH, DRUG AND ALCOHOL USE CAME TOGETHER IN 1973 TO START A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON THE PREVENTION AND TREATMENT OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

AND THAT ORGANIZATION WAS INCORPORATED AS JAM HOUSE.

ON OCTOBER 10, 1973. AND SUBSEQUENTLY WAS KNOWN AS THE DRUG EDUCATION AND PREVENTION CENTER EPIC COMMUNITY SERVICES AND NOW EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE.

MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND CO-OCCURRING DISORDERS.

WHEREAS, EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE 50TH ANNIVERSARY IN ITS 50 YEARS, PERSON-CENTERED CARE OF THOSE IMPACTD BY SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER AND OTHER BEHAVIORS THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE SYSTEM OF PREVENTION, INTERVENTION AND COUNSELING.

AND, WHEREAS, EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF ST. JOHNS RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES THROUGHOUT THE PAST 50 YEARS AND CONSISTENTLY SAVED LIVES AND TRANSFORMED FAMILIES.

AND HAS PROVEN THAT PREVENTION WORKS, TREATMENT IS EFFECTIVE AND PEOPLE CAN RECOVER FROM THEIR SUBSTANCE USE AND OR MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER. AND WHEREAS, THAT WHILE EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE IS CELEBRATING 50 YEARS, PLANS FOR THE FUTURE FOR QUALITY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

NOW, THERE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS, FLORIDA, THAT OCTOBER 3, 2023, COMMEMORATED AT EPIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE 50TH ANNIVERSARY.

PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS, FLORIDA, THIS THIRD DAY OF OCTOBER 2023.

>> I KNOW WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE FROM EPIC.

IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND BE PART OF THE PROCLAMATION AND THE PICTURE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM ARE COMING UP RIGHT NOW. WE WANT TO THANK YOU, CHAIR

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WE WERE INCORPORATED OCTOBER 10, 1973 TO START WITH COUNSELING AND PREVENTION SERVICES IN ST. JOHNS COMMUNITY.

WE CHANGED OUR NAME A FEW TIMES BUT NOT OUR MISSION.

OUR GOAL IS TO ALWAYS DO OUR PART WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY, TO STRENGTHEN THIS COMMUNITY BY OFFERING LIFE-CHANGING TREATMENT SERVICES AND LIFE SAVING PREVENTION PROGRAMS FOR THOSE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS AS WELL AS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT CARE FOR THEM.

WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE SERVED OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS AND LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING QUALITY, EVIDENT-BASED PREVENTION AND TREATMENT SERVICES FOR THE FUTURE.

MAYBE ANOTHER 50 YEARS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[Proclamation Recognizing October 2023 as Domestic Violence Awareness Month]

>>. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: NOW WE WILL HEAR A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MON MONTH.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY HONOR TO PRESENT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. WOULD KELLY FRANKLIN AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED COME UP. SHANA, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE

PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER, ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REMAINS A PREVALENT ISSUE ACROSS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE UNITED STATES, AND THE WORLD, WITH IMPLICATIONS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AND SAFETY. AND WHEREAS, ALL PERSONS HAVE A BASIC RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE, ESPECIALLY IN THEIR HOMES, YET MORE THAN 1,000 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTS WERE FILED. AND FOUR DOE MECHANIC PARTICULAR VIOLENCE RELATED HOMICIDES HAPPENED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAST YEAR. AND WHEREAS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE EFFECTS PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, RACIAL, SOCIOECONOMIC, EUCATIONAL, RELIGIOUS AND OCCUPATIONAL SEGMENTS OF OUR SOCIETY, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. AND WHEREAS, CHILDREN FROM VIOLENT HOMES ARE PHYSICALLY ABUSED OR SERIOUSLY NEGLECTED AT A RATE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE AND HAVE GREATER RISK OF ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE, JUVENILE DELINQUENCY, COGNITIVE AND DEVELOPMENTAL PROBLEMS AS WELL AS FEAR, ANXIETY AND GUILT. WHEREAS, PUBLIC AWARENESS AND EDUCATION ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARE NEEDED AS WELL AS UNIFORM EFFORTS ON THE BEHALF OF GOVERNMENT, HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, EDUCATORS AND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS TO ADDRESS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THROUGH PREVENTION, INTERVENTION, AND TREATMENT FOR VICTIMS AND PERPETRATORS. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, OCTOBER 2023 BE DESIGNATED AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THIS THIRD DAY OF OCTOBER, 2023.

>> THANK YOU SO WERE, COMMISSIONERS, FOR RECOGNIZING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN OCTOBER.

YOU KNOW THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE -- WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAPPENS EVERY MONTH. BUT IT TAKES A COMMUNITY TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. AND BEHIND ME I HAVE SOME AMAZING PEOPLE. WE HAVE OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

OUR AMAZING STAFF, VOLUNTEERS, COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND SURVIVORS, THAT ARE STANDING WITH US.

A AND THIS IS JUST A SMALL PORTION OF WHAT IT TAKES FOR OUR

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I AM NOT GOING TO LIE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM OF FINDING PURPLE, PLEASE CALL US. WE WILL GIVE YOU A PURPLE PIN TO WEAR. WHEN SOMEONE COMPLIMENTS YOU ON THE COLOR PLEASE LET THEM KNOW YOUR WEARING IT AND WHY IT IS IMPORTANT. OTHER WAYS TO SUPPORT US IS VISIT OUR WEB SITE AND LEARN HOW TO GET MORE INVOLVED AND PLEASE SHARE. NEW PEOPLE COME TO OUR COMMUNITY EVERY DAY. WE HAVE BEEN -- OUR CERTIFIED CENTER HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR 34 YEARS.

NEW PEOPLE THAT COME EVERY DAY THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT US.

PLEASE SHARE OUR INFORMATION. IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS BEING ABUSED, PLEASE REACH OUT. WE WANT VICTIMS TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT ALONE. WE ARE HERE TO HELP THEM SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SUFFER IN SILENCE. OUR HELP LINE NUMBER -- 24-HOUR HELP LINE, 094-824-1555. AND OUR WEB SITE IS BETTYGRIFFINCENTER.ORG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS, FOR RECOGNIZING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

[Proclamation Recognizing October 1-7, 2023, as National 4-H Week]

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: OKAY. NOW WE WILL HEAR A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING OCTOBER 1-7 AS NATIONAL 4-H WEEK.

>> GOOD MORNING. TODAY WE RECOGNIZE NATIONAL 4-H WEEK AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT THEY HAVE ON OUR YOUTH AND-OR OUR COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP ALLIE AND BROOKLYN. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SHANA WILL READ INTO INTO THE RECORD.

>> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PROUD TO HONOR THE 4-H YOUTH PROGRAM OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND INSTITUTE OF FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL SCIENCES EXTENSION SERVICE FOR 103 YEARS FOR PROVIDING EXPERIENCE-PACED EDUCATION TO YOUNGSTERS THROUGHOUT THE SUNSHINE STATE AND WHEREAS, THE FLORIDA 4-H YOUTH PROGRAM WORKS WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO RAISE AWARENESS AND FOR POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. AND, WHEREAS, THIS PROGRA WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE CHILD, INCLUDING HEAD, HEART, HANDS AND HEALTH HELPS YOUTH TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE, DEVELOP LIFE SKILLS, AND FORM ATTITUDES THAT ENABLE THEM TO BECOME SELF-DIRECTED, PRODUCTIVE, AND CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY. AND WHEREAS, 237,351 URBAN, SUBURBAN, AND RURAL FLORIDA 4-H YOUTH PARTICIPANTS RANGES IN AGES 5 TO 18 HAIL FROM DIVERSE ETHNIC AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS. AND, WHEREAS, THE PROGRAM HAS ACHIEVED SUCCESS AND IMPACTED COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE THROUGH THE SERVICE OF OVER 14,000 ADULT AND YOUTH VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE GIVEN GENEROUSLY OF THEIR TIME, TALENTS, NEGOTIATION AND RESOURCES TO THE YOUTH OF FLORIDA. AND, WHEREAS, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY 4-H PROGRAM IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE DESIGNED AROUND THE FOUR ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS NECESSARY FOR POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, BY PROVIDING YOUTH WITH SUPERVISED INDEPENDENCE, A SENSE OF BELONGING WITH A POSITIVE GROUP, A SPIRIT OF GENEROSITY TOWARD OTHERS. AND A WIDE VARIETY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO MASTER LIFE CHALLENGES.

AND NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT OCTOBER 1 THROUGH OCTOBER 7, 2023, BE DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL 4-H WEEK PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY

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. >> HELLO, EVERYBODY, I AM BROOKLYN ANTHONY, THE PRESIDENT OF TEEN 4-H.

4-H HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR SO MANY OF OUR YOUTH.

THIS WEEK IT IS ABOUT RECOGNIZING AND SPREADING THE WORD OF 4-H, WHETHER YOU ARE IN IT OR NOT, IT HAS IMPACTED YOU.

WE RETCH TO HELP OUR CLUB, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR COUNTRY AND OUR WORLD FOR THE BETTER. WEAR GREEN AND TRY TO SPEAK OF 4-H FOR US.

[Acceptance of Proclamations]

[Public Safety Update]

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT

THE PROCLAMATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SO MOVED.

>> AYE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE ACCEPTED. NOW MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UP UPDATE GOOD MORNING, DIRECTOR.

>> DIRECTOR WALLS. I HAVE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO THANK PEOPLE FOR TODAY. FIRST, DROPPING BACK TO ETHICS AWARD THIS MORNING. I WANT TO JUST -- EPIC AWARD.

I WANT TO THANK THEM AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS GONE ON FOR MOST OF THOSE 50 YEARS. WE WORKED WITH THEM ON RE-ENTRY PROGRAMS. WE ARE WORKING ON RAPID RESPONSE, MOBILE RESPONSE TEAM AND SOON TO COME A CO-RESPONDER PROGRAM THAT I CAN COME UP AND TALK TO YOU VERY SOON, REALLY IN ITS INFANCY STAGES AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO MENTION DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. I WANT TOO RECOGNIZE OUR INVEST TEAM THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WORKS WITH ALL THE ADVOCATES IN THAT PARTICULAR FIELD.

AND WE WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

LAST OF ALL, I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THIS -- YOU HEARD US TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE. THE NEW GOLF CART LAW AND WE PASSED OUT A BROCHURE. IT IS NOW IN EFFECT.

AND THIS IS A LAW THAT CAME DIRECTLY FROM US HERE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVE CINDY STEVENSON AND WENT INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1. AND THE STATUTE, A STATE STATUTE EMPLOYEE EXHIBITS A PERSON FROM 18 YEARS OF AGE OF OPERATING A GOLF CART UNLESS HAS A VALID LEARN'S LICENSE OR VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE AND COMPLEMENTS SOME OF OUR COUNTY ORDINANCES CONTAINED IN THE BROCHURE AND I WILL BE LEAVING SOME OF THESE UP FROOBT FOR ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO PICK THEM UP ON THE WAY OUT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THANK YOU. YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, SHAWN MAGHEE THE ACTING CHIEF OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. BRIEF YOU UP WITH SOME ISSUES.

STARTED OUR PINK T-SHIRT CAMPAIGN FOR BREAST CANCER AWARENESS. SO WHEN YOU SEE OUR OPERATIONS PERSONNEL OUT ON THE STREET IN THE TRUCKS, YOU CAN SEE THEM WITH REALLY BRIGHT PINK T-SHIRTS FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.

ADDITIONALLY WE STARTED OUR OCTOBER AS FIRE PREVENTION MONTH. WITH THAT ALL OUR PERSONNEL WILL BE IN THE SCHOOLS TEACHING FIRE PREVENTION TO THE KIDS AND THIS YEAR'S FOCUS IS COOKING SAFETY. SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR AND THE THEME CHANGES. THAT IS THIS YEAR'S THEME.

THAT IS REALLY QUICK WHAT IS GOING ON THIS MONTH IN OCTOBER.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: HI, CONGRATULATIONS ON STEPPING IN HERE TO FILL A GAP.

I WANT TO ASK ADMINISTRATION A QUESTION IF POSSIBLE.

HAS -- HAS MR. -- OR CAPTAIN BOUARD RESIGNED.

>> THE CHIEF TENDERED HIS VERBAL RESIGNATION.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO WRITTEN RESIGNATION?

>> NOT YET. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND HE SAVED

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HE HAS THREE YEARS LEFT UNTIL HE RETIRES AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS LEFT AFTER 17 YEARS OF QUALITY WORK AND A VERY WELL-TRAINED GUY. HE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE PER EFFECT PERSON FOR GETTING ALONG WITH POLITICS AND PEOPLE, BUT HE IS A GOOD WORKER AND I HARDSHIP YOU CONSIDER THAT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: LET ME WAY IN ON THIS IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

SHARE MY THOUGHTS WITH EVERYONE. WE HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS.

WE ALL REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COUNTY BECAUSE WE RUN DISTRICT -- COUNTYWIDE, NOT DISTRICT WIDE.

WE ARE NOT SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS.

SO NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IT IS MY POSITION, ANYWAY, THAT AS I UNDERSTAND, THE COUNTY RULES, POLICIES AND OPERATING PROCEDURES, THE FIVE OF US HIRE AND FIRE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

PERSONALLY, I HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, INCLUDING WHO THEY HIRE AND FIRE FOR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, INCLUDING THE FIRE CHIEF.

IT WOULD BE VERY AWKWARD FOR EVERY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO DIRECTLY RESPOND TO FIVE SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS ON EVERY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, EITHER HIRING OR DETERMINATION. WE EACH COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. SO THE COUNTYADMINISTRATOR COULD BE SITTING THERE LISTENING TO FIVE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.

SO IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT IT IS BEST FOR US TO MANAGE AND HIRE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IF WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH THEIR MANAGEMENT STYLE, THEIR DECISIONS, THEIR OPERATIONS, WE DEAL WITH THEIR POSITION. WE EITHER KEEP THEM ON OR TERMINATE THEM. I TRY TO ADVISE FROM ADVISE ORGANIZE GIVING ADVICE TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ON HIRES, BECAUSE WHEN I DO THAT, IT MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS OR SARAH'S OR CHRISTIAN'S OR ROY'S AND IT PUTS THEM IN AN AWKWARD POSITION. I FEEL COMPELLED TO SAY THAT THIS MORNING BECAUSE I THINK IT IS BETTER TO LET THE ADMINISTRATOR DEAL WITH PERSONNEL ISSUES AND AVOID EACH OF US WEIGHING IN WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

THERE YOU GO. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: TWO

SPEAKERS. >> COMMISSIONER, AS COMMISSIONER DEAN MENTIONED A PERSONNEL ISSUE.

I RECOMMEND AS ALWAYS TO THE BOARD THAT PERSONNEL ISSUES ARE NOT DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC. MY REQUEST FOR YOU TO WRAP UP THE CONVERSATION ON THIS AS -- AS IT IS A PERSONNEL ISSUE.

THANK YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WILL WRAP IT UP. I TURN ON THE TV AND A QUOTE FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THE NEWS ON CHANNEL 4, AS WELL AS IN THE PAPER, I OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HIRED ME TO BE HERE FOR SOME EXPLANATION OR SOME MORE DETAIL ON THE SUBJECT.

AND I AM SURE COMMISSIONER DEAN IS FINE WITH HIS OPINION.

THAT IS NOT MY OPINION AND I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF ANY SITUATION THAT INVOLVES THEIR SAFETY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER DEAN.

DEAN I WAS UNAWARE THAT I WAS BROADCAST.

CAN YOU SHARE IT. WHAT IS THE SUBJECT.

>> I TALKED TO YOU THIS MORNING. DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT TO HIM? ABSOLUTELY.

WE RELEASED A PRESS RELEASE. AND WE CAN POTENTIALLY PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD IF NOT TOO MUCH TROUBLE FOR MR. WAYNE LARSON TO PUT THAT ON. THE QUOTE WAS PROVIDED TO ALL THE NEWS OUTLETS AND THE MEDIA. A QUOTE FROM ME.

I BELIEVE THAT THE NEWS MEDIA PROBABLY TOOK ME AS A REPRESENTATION OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS .THERE IS NO SINGLE COMMISSIONER QUOTED. IT WAS THE BODY OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE MESSAGE LARGELY IS THE MESSAGE THAT WE SHARE EVERY YEAR.

WE ARE FOSTERING A CULTURE OF INCLUSIVENESS AND CULTURE OF SUPPORTING OUR TEAM AND A CULTURE OF TRANSPARENCY AND OPENNESS. THAT IS THE PLAN AND THE HOPE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO FOR THE RECRUITMENT OF THE NEXT FIRE

[Clerk of Court's Report]

CHIEF. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MISS ANDREWS. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR YOUR UPDATE THIS MORNING. TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT'S REPORT. MR. PATTY, GOOD MORNING.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING. IN LINE WITH THE RECENT ADOPTION OF THE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR FAMILY LAW CLERKS THAT WORK WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND PROCESSING INJUNCTIONS DAILY.

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JANUARY TO AUGUST, 253 FOR THE YEAR.

HERE WITH ME TODAY I HAVE OUR TEAM.

DIRECTOR KATHY WALKER AND AT THAT TEEN THAT AND HAMILTON TO TELL US OF THE TYPES OF INJUNCTIONS WE OFFER AND THE

FILING PROCESS. >> GOOD MORNING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INJUNCTIONS THAT WE PROCESS EACH DAY WITHIN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INJUNCTION, REPEAT VIOLENCE, DATING, STALKING AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE INJUNCTIONS.

THE PROCESS OF FILING THE INJUNCTIONS, THE INDIVIDUAL CAN COME INTO THE OFFICE WITH AN ATTORNEY TO FILE THE INJUNCTION.

OUR WEB-BASED PROGRAM TURBO COURT TO COMPLETE THE PAPERWORK IN THE COMFORT OF THEIR HOME. IT CAN BE COMPLETED THROUGH THE FLORIDA E-PORTAL OR THE COMPLETED FORMS TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. LASTLY THEY CAN COME TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SPEAK WITH AN INJUNCTION CLERK AND ASSIST THEM IN PROCESSING THE INJUNCTION. OCE THE PETITION IS COMPLETED, THE CLERK WILL FILE THE PETITION AND NOTIFY THE FAMILY JUDGE FOR REVIEW. IF GRANTED, THE TEMPORARY INJUNCTION AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE FORWARDED TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THE FATHER IS CONTACTED TO PICK UP THE COPIES, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE HEARING DATE AND THE TERMS OF THE TEMPORARY INJUNCTION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

OUR STAFF WORKS VERY HARD WITH RESIDENTS IN THIS TRYING TIME IN THEIR LIVES AND PROVIDES THAT SOFT TOUCH, CARING TOUCH TO GIVE THEM THE SUPPORT THEY NEED. I COULDN'T BE SO PROUD OF THEM.

A GREAT TEAM. OUR FAMILY TEAM AND KATRINA AND NICOLE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM. I HAVE A SECOND UPDATE BUT I WANT TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU ALL HAVE ANYT ANYTHING.

>> I AM CURIOUS WHAT THE NEXT THING IS.

>> IT IS ABOUT CYBER SECURITY. AND INTENTLY FOCUSED ON PREVENTING CYBERCRIMES AND FRAUD.

LIKE ALL OF US, WE ARE IN CONTACT ATTACK FROM SCAM SCAMMERS, PHISHING ATTACKS. AND ONE CALLED BUSINESS E-MAIL COMPROMISE BEING INSIDIOUS. CRIMINALS GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN AN EMAIL AND WAIT UNTIL PAYMENT IS REQUESTED AND INSERT THEMSELVES IN THE CONVERSATION IN AN ATTEMPT TO CHANGE BANK OPERATIONS AND DEFEAT INTERNAL CONTROLS.

HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WE HAVE A STRONG TEAM RANGING FROM COUNTY ADMIN, COMPTROLLER, BANKS TO PROTECT OUR DOLLARS.

IF A FRAUD EVENT DOES OCCUR AS DETECTED LAST WEEK.

THE TEAM WORKS QUICKLY TO DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENED, RECOVER RESOURCES, ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TO BETTER PROTECT THE PROCESS IN THE FUTURE. I AM OF THE MIND SET THAT WE ARE SEEKING A THIRD PARTY SOLUTION TO THE ISSUE AS THE SCAMMERS ARE GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME. PROTECTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES AS CLERK AND COMPTROLLER AND I WILL HAVE MORE TO FOLLOW ON THIS AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. CHAIRMAN, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSPARK RAIN SEE.

THAT THE $1.1 MILLION THAT WE ARE OFFER -- AND GOING AFTER, CORRECT? I AM PROUD OF YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION AND COULD YOU FOLLOW UP WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS IF WE TRACK THAT DOWN.

>> ABSOLUTELY, COMMISSIONER. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE COUNTY WAS VICTIM OF THE BUSINESS E-MAIL COMPROMISE.

WE RECOVERED 65% OF THE DOLLARS. WE ARE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC OF RECOVERING THE OTHER AND INVOKING INSURANCE.

INSURANCE FOR THESE TYPE OF EVENTS OF UNFORTUNATELY.

LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ENGAGED WITH US.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SECRET SERVICE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THEY HAVE BEEN AS ALWAYS THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONALS AS WE SEEK TO COVER THE RESOURCES.

IN ADDITION REVIEWING IS A INTERNAL PROCESSES.

POLICIES IN PLACE IN ORDER TO HAVE SECONDARY CONTROLS TO PROTECT THESE DOLLARS AND THAT IS WHY WE START LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY A THIRD PARTY SOLUTION A SITUATION WHERE THESE SCAMMERS, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

THEY GET BETTER ALL THE DAY AT IT AND WE NEED TO STAY ONE STEP AHEAD. WE FOCUS ON IT.

PRIORITIZE IT. AND GOING THROUGH AND CONDUCTING AN AFTER ACTION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

POTENTIAL FAILINGS AND IN ORDER TO EN SURE THAT, WE WILL PROTECT THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THE BEST THAT BECK.

[Public Infrastructure Update]

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PATTY? APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.

NOW MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE WHICH IS ALWAYS MY FAVORITE TOPIC. MR. CALDWELL, GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> MINE AS WELL.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, GREG CALDWELL,

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PALM BELLY WEST, ENVIRONMENTAL LAB, LONG LEAF PARKWAY WIDENS, SOUTH BEACH GRILL DEMOLITION, THE SHERIFF SUBSTATION AND COUNTY ROAD 210 AND RESILIENCY PROJECTS.

HOPEFULLY WILL NOT GO TOO LONG OUR PALM VALLEY BEST BOAT RAMP, RIGHT NOW THAT IS WRAPPING UP CONSTRUCTION.

IT IS LOCATED JUST WEST OF THE INTERCOASTAL WEST OF THE PALM BELLY BRIDGE. THIS WILL INCLUDE A KAYAK LAUNCH, NEW SIDEWALK, A CONCRETE BOAT RAMP AND FIXED AND FLOATING DOCK FOR PEOPLE TO USE. CONSTRUCTION IS LOOKING TO WRAP UP THIS MONTH WITH -- WE ARE HOPING WE WILL HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING BY THE END OF THE MONTH AS WELL.

WE ARE FINISHING UP THE PERMITTING ISSUE AND RESOLVING THAT. COUNTY STAFF WAS ABLE TO SECURE $490,000 FROM THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATIONAL DISTRICT FOR THIS PROJECT. SO THAT WAS ABLE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COUNTY COSTS .WHAT THIS DOES ENHANCES THE VOTING LIFE IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE COUNTY AS WELL AS MEET OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE ARE SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE PICTURES OF THE EXISTING BOAT RAMP.

YOU HAVE A NICE AERIAL ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.

BOAT RAMP CAN THE DOCK EXTENSION.

THIS WILL GIVE THE BOATER COMMUNITY A LOT MORE ACCESS TO THE INTRACOASTAL AND A PICTURE LOOKING RIGHT DOWN THE BOAT RAMP. WE HOPE TO HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING WITH OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM BY THE END OF THE MONTH.

MOVE ON TO THE UTILITY ENVIRONMENTAL LAB.

THIS CURRENTLY EXIST OVER ON THE BEACHES.

RIGHT NOW IN SOME OF THE VULNERABLE AREAS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED 6800-SQUARE-FOOT NEW BUILDING. NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS ISSUED LAST AUGUST IN 2022. WE ARE WRAPPING THAT PROJECT UP AS WELL RIGHT NOW. WE ARE EXPECTING EVERYTHING TO GET OUR C.O. VERY SOON AS WELL AS HAVE THE FURNISHINGS INTO THE BUILDING WITH THE RIBBON CUTTING POSSIBLY AS EARLY AS 2340E67 TO KICK THAT OFF. I KNOW MR. COLONGRAF IT LOOKING FOR THE FACILITY AND WILL HELP GET IT OUT OF THE HURRICANE EVACUATION ZONE. CENTRALIZE THE DROP-OFF AREA FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WELL THE BUILDING WAS BUILT WITH A ENERGY-EFFICIENT CONCEPT IN MIND AND WE THINK IT WILL BE BETTER FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE UTILITY.

HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE UTILITY LAB OFF OF INMAN ROAD NEXT TO THE EXISTING UTILITY COMPOUND. MOVE INTO LONG LEAF PINE PARKWAY. WIDENING IN IF THE NORTHWEST PORTIONS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHERE WE ARE GOING FROM TWO TO FOUR LANES. OVER FOUR MILES OF ROAD IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION. WE ARE GOING TO INSTALL A NEW SIGNAL AT SCHETTLANDLAND WHICH WILL GIVE BETTER ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL ALONG LONG LEAF PINE WAY. NOTICE TO PROCEED IN MARCH.

WE EXPECT THE ROAD TO BE FULLY COMPLETE BY NEXT SEPTEMBER.

WE THREE PHASES OF THE PROJECT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

THE CONTRACTOR IS WORKING ON PHASE 1 AND PHASE 3.

WE ARE EXPECTING TO START PAVING NEXT WEEK IN PHASE 3.

BAKER CONTRACTING IS DOING A GREAT JOB FOR US AND WE WILL SEE PROGRESS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THIS PROJECT, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS GAVE US THE FUNDING UP FRONT WHICH ALLOWS US TO BUILD THE PROJECT ALL AT ONCE AND A GREAT WAY TO GET THE IMPROVEMENTS. HELP IN THE SOUTHWEST AND TO HELP PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS. HERE IS A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE PROGRESS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IF YOU LOOK UP IN THE NORTH -- THE TOP OF THE SLIDE, THOSE ARE PROJECTS IN PHASE ONE THAT WE WILL SEE PAVING SHOULD COMMENCE, WEATHER PERMITTING AS EARLY AS NEXT MONDAY. BAKER ST. JOHNS CONTRACTING IS DOING A GREAT JOB. STARTS AT VETERANS AND SOUTH TO ROBERTS ROAD. WE STARTED FROM ROBERTS.

ROAD BACK NORTH THE PHASE 3, A LITTLE BEHIND BUT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE FOR THE PAVING OF THAT PORTION.

THE CONTRACT IS PROCEEDINGA CORDINGLY.

THE NEXT PROJECT JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP IS SOUTH BEACH GRILL DEMOLITION. A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN E-MAILS THE LAST MONTH OF PEOPLE GETTING INTO THIS BUILDING SINCE THE COUNTY TOOK OWNERSHIP OF IT. WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THIS BUILDING DEMOLISHED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

ASBESTOS AND REQUIREMENTS THROUGH DEP.

WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD READY TO TAKE THIS BUILDING DOWN AS SOON AS WE FULFILL ALL THE D.E.P. REQUIREMENTS THAT WE

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WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT THE AREA CAN BE USED FOR A.D.A.

ACCESSIBILITY TO THE BEACH AND ADDITIONAL PARKING THROUGH THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. THIS IS HOW THE BUILDING CURRENTLY LOOKS. IT HAS BEEN BOARDED UP TO TRY TO REDUCE PEOPLE FROM GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING WITH THE ANTICIPATION THIS WILL BE KNOCKED DOWN VERY SOON AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE AND CALLING THE SHERIFF'S TEAM TO EVICT SOME UNWANTED GUESTS. NEXT PROJECT IS FIRE STATION 11 AND LOCATED IN THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY GOLF COURSE AREA.

A PROJECT WE ARE ABLE TO COMBINE THE FIRE STATION AS WELL AS THE SHERIFF TEAM IN THE ONE BUILDING.

WE ISSUE NOTICE TO PROCEED BACK IN APRIL.

AND A PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE DEMARI CONTRACTING WHICH IS A LOCAL CONTRACTOR DOING THIS WORK FOR US.

WE ARE EXPECTED TO HAND OVER THE KEYS TO OUR END USERS BY JUNE OF NEXT YEAR. THE BUILDING CAME IN $7.6 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ABOUT HE LO HE OUR COST ESTIMATE WHICH WAS A GOOD SIGN FOR US. THE IDEAS AND SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS PROJECT, REDUCE RESPONSE TIME FOR THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

HELPS WITH THE ISO RATING FOR THIS AREA AS WELL AS A SHARED BUILDING WHERE WE ARE HAVING PUBLIC SAFETY PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICE HERE IS A PICTURE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS OUR FINAL RENDERING WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE IN JUNE OF 2024.

ON THE RIGHT OUR CONTRACTOR IS MAKING HEADWAY AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL BUILDING RIGHT NOW AND PROCEEDING.

WE DIDN'T SEE ANY EXPECTATIONS THAT WE DID NOT HIT OUR SCHEDULED TIME FRAMES ON THIS PROJECT.

THE NEXT PROJECT IS OUR COUNTY ROAD 210 WIDENING.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THIS.

I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT IT LAST MONTH AS WELL.

THE PROJECT LOOKING TO GO FROM TWO TO FOUR LANES WEST OF THE TWIN PEAKS BOUNDARY. WE HAVE BIDS ON THE STREET TO PROCURE A CONTRACTOR TO DO THIS WORK FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WITH ANTICIPATION OF BRINGING SOMETHING TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS EARLY AS NOVEMBER WITH A NOTICE TO PROCEED BACK IN DECEMBER AND START TURNING DIRT HOPEFULLY THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR. AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, WE WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE HIGH SCHOOL, CLOSED OFF THAT LEFT MOVEMENT. WE HAVE MET WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. WE MET WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

I WANT TO GO OVER A PICTURE REALLY QUICKLY TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE TO HAVE MORE EFFICIENT IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE IN PROCESS. WE ARE NOT DONE LOOKING THROUGH THIS AREA EVEN DURING CONSTRUCTION AND A COUPLE OF THOSE DETAILS THAT WE CAN WORKING ON TO NOT ONLY EXPEDITE BUT MAKE IT BETTER DURING THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONSTRUCTION RARELY DOES IS MAKE TRAFFIC FLOW BETTER AND I THINK THE COUNTY TEAM IS COMING UP WITH GOOD INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT WILL LET HUGO ENTER IN MORE DETAIL. SHOW YOU A PICTURE RIGHT HERE.

IN PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW A LOT OF THE ONGOING SIGNALS IN THE COUNTY.

WE BROUGHT IN THE SHERIFF TEAM AND SCHOOL BOARD TEAM AND OUR TEAM ALL OVER ST. JOHNS COUNTY WERE ABLE TO LOOK FROM RUSSELL CAMPSON THROUGH BEACHSIDE HIGH THROUGH OUR ROOM AND VIDEO DETECTION TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE MORE EFFICIENT MOVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER A TRUCK THAT EXITS ONE OF THE TRUCK STOPS. THAT WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT IF IT HITS AT THE WRONG TIME OF THE MORNING WITH SCHOOL TRAFFIC MOVING THROUGH THAT. BUT WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING THIS EFFORT.

CONSTANTLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION AROUND THE CORRIDOR AND THAT IS OUR GOAL.

THANK YOU TO THE SHERIFF DEEP AND SCHOOL BOARD AND TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER

TO HUGH. >> THANK YOU, MR. CALDWELL.

I AM HUGH MATTHEWS WITH ENGLAND TIMS AND MILLER.

WE HAVE BEEN RETAINED FROM THE COUNTY TO BE YOUR CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT PART OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS ARM. I HAVE MATT THE HEAD OF OUR TRANSPORTATION GROUP TODAY. WE RECENTLY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD FINALIZING OUR CONTRACT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST IN US TO HELP WITH THIS MUCH NEEDED PROBABLY.

WE KNOW THE ISSUE OUT THERE. AND THE ISSUE IS CONGESTION.

WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE 210 EXCEPTION EAST OF I-95.

FOUR LANES THROUGH WHAT I CALL THE TRUCK STOP AREA THAT

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BUT THE REAL ISSUE IS THE TRAFFIC ZIPPERS DOWN TO TWO LANES JUST RIGHT AT CE WILSON. WITH THE OPENING OF BEACHSIDE HIGH SCHOOL. IT HAS GOTTEN MUCH WORSE IN THAT AREA. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

THE FOCUS ON WHAT CAN WE GET DONE QUICK.

AND SO THE -- THE SOLUTION, SIGNAL RETIMING THAT HAS BEEN DONE. THE SIGNAL AT CUMBERLAND PARK IS UNDER CONTRACT. THAT IS HAPPENING.

THE CONSTRAINT VIDEO HAVE MONITORING AND WATCHING OF TRAFFIC IN REALTIME OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHAT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEMS AND WHAT CAN WE DO THAT DAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. STILL A FEW OTHER SIGNAL TRICKS THAT WE CAN DO IF WE NEED TO, BUT THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION IS THE WIDENING OF 210 REALLY FROM CE WILSON WHERE IT CONNECTS TO TWO LANES THROUGH TO BEACHSIDE.

THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT THE SIX-LANE SECTION IN FRATERNITY OF BEACHSIDE. SIX LANES, DUAL TURNS HEADED TO THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL. THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION.

THAT IS A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT. WHAT CAN BE DONE QUICK? SO, THE COUNTY IS OUT TO -- WHOA, WHAT DID I DO.

THE COUNTY IS OUT TO BID FOR THAT SIX-LANING PROJECT AND AN ADDENDUM PUT OUT TO CONNECT THE CONTRACTOR TO CONNECT TWO LANES EASTBOUND IMMEDIATELY. IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

RESILIENCY AND LOCATIONS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THAT CORRIDOR.

YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHEN A JOB GOES TO CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC GETS WORSE DURING CONSTRUCTION INSTEAD OF GETTING BETTER.

IN THIS CASE WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT TRAFFIC ACTUALLY GETS BETTER DURING CONSTRUCTION BY OPENING UP TWO LANES EASTBOUND. THE CONTRACT IS MANDATED TO KEEP IT THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT.

SO THAT REALLY IS THE FOCUS. AND BRINGING THE.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS BETWEEN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOUR SCHOOL BOARD AND EVERYBODY IS REALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN DO AS A TEAM TO BRING SOLUTIONS IN THIS AREA AND TO BRING THEM ACTUALLY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LONG LIST OF

DETAILS ASSOCIATE WITH THAT JOB. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MATTHES OR MR. CALDWELL ABOUT THIS PROJECT OR ANY OTHER PROJECTS DISCUSSED? MR. MATTHEWS, YOU SAID THIS PROJECT MAY NOT BE COMPLETE FOR TWO YEARS.

OBVIOUSLY YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE WANT TO SEE THIS DONE TWO YEARS AGO.

WITH THAT IN MIND, HOW CAN WE FIND EFFICIENCIES.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT EFFICIENCIES. WHAT ARE THE OBSTACLES TO GET IN THE WAY OF GETTING THIS DONE FASTER.

>> THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TODAY I THINK IS UTILITY RELOCATION.

TECO HAS LINES IN THERE JEA HAS LINES.

ST. JOHNS UTILITY HAS LINES. POWER LINES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE WETLAND PERMITS ARE VERY NEAR IN HAND WITHIN PROBABLY WEEKS OR A MONTH AT MOST THE JOB IS OUT TO BID. GET THE CONTRACTOR HIRED.

GET THE RIGHT-OF-WAY CLEARED SO THE UTILITIES CAN MOVE THEIR PIPES. I KNOW MR. CALDWELL AND HIS TEAM HAVE WORKED HAVE HE CLOSELY WITH ALL THE UTILITY DEPARTMENTS AND COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THAT LOCATION TO GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY. TO GET TWO LANES EASTBOUND OPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THAT IS THE EFFICIENCY THAT WE

ARE LOOKING FOR. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU.

ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? >> ADDING TO THAT, GOING BACK TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE DELIVERY TEAM.

THIS IS WHAT WE WERE PUT TOGETHER TO DO TO COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO GET THIS FORWARD.

THIS IS WORKING AND BRINGING IN PARTNERS TO HELP US THINK OUTSIDE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

WE HAVE PEOPLE INTERNALLY WITH GOOD, CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.

WE FEEL IF WE CAN GET TO EASTBOUND LANES MIGHT NOT BE IDEAL FOR THE ALTERNATE SIX-LANE CONFIGURATION HELP RELIEVE THE

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WE ARE WORKING AND MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AN I AM EXCITED ABOUT TH THOSE DUAL LEFT-TURNS.

DUEL EASTBOUND TURN LANES AND A GAME CHANGER FOR THE AREA.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: OBVIOUSLY -- I MEAN, THE PICTURE I AM LOOKING

AT RIGHT NOW IS -- SORRY -- >> SORRY TO GO BACK TO YOU WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE VERSUS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

>> THAT SIX LANING WILL MAKE A BIG IMPACT -- A POSITIVE IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT I AM IN TOUCH WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS MAKING THIS A PRIORITY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU FOLKS.

>> I AM NOT DONE. SO MUCH GOING ON.

WE TRY TO KEEP IT NARROW, BUT I APOLOGIZE.

THERE IS SO AS MUCH GOOD STUFF GOING ON.

WE WANT TO SHARE SOME MORE THINGS GOING ON.

SO RESILIENCY PROJECT. THE COUNTY'S EFFORTS, LOOKING AT RESILIENCY FUNDS OUT THERE. THE STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF SECURING JULIAN, ALPINE GROVE IN THE WEST PART, THE LIFT STATION HARDENING PROJECT GOING ON FOR THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THE 2024 BUDGET FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. WE ARE LOOKING AT DRAINING PROJECTS IN HASTINGS. DRAINAGE PROJECTS COMMISSIONER DEAN IN CORPUS POINT. AND OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT WE FEEL THERE IS ANY OPPORTUNITY TO HELP BRING FUNDS INTO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE TEAM IS DOING A GREAT JOB ON THAT. WITH THAT, A COUPLE OF THESE PROJECTS. UTILITY HARDENING OVER ON THE BEACH. THE ST. JOLIE THAT WE THINK WILL HELP THE TREASURE BEACH AREA AND ALPINE GROVE THAT WILL HELP OUT THE PARK TO ITS FULL CAPACITY.

AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE FOR YOU.

THE RENDERING FOR PRESIDENT HASTINGS COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO THIS WAS THE SELECTED RENDERING THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE PUBLIC MEETING. THE VOTING.

THE CONCEPT A. THIS IS WHAT THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTER/LIBRARY CENTER WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE HASTINGS AREA AND I WANTED TO LAY IT OUT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.

WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH FULL DESIGN AND PERMITTING ON THIS PROJECT. AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY ON THIS THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR.

WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NOT A QUESTION, BUT A COMMENT. ON MY DAY OFF YESTERDAY, I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A SITE VISIT TO THE FIRE STATION 11.

IT IS REALLY COMING ALONG GREAT. IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I ACTUALLY DROVE BY SLOWLY ON MY WAY TO PLAY GOLF AT A COUNTY COURSE, AND I TOO CAN MA HARD LOOK AND I WANT TO REPORT THAT I WAS OUT THERE DOING MY JOB. [LAUGHTER] I SHOT A 90 BY THE WAY WHICH FOR ME IS PRETTY GOOD.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE SACRIFICE TO GET

OUT THERE AND PLAY GOLF. >> HOW DID THE GOLF COURSE LOOK?

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I KNOW THAT WAS YOUR DISTRICT BUT LOOKING

AFTER IT. >> COMMISSIONER, ANY DRAINAGE

PROBLEM ON THE GOLF COURSE? >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: GOLF COURSE? THE DRAINAGE IS WORKING GREAT AFTER THE RAIN THE LAST TWO DAYS.

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: SOMEBODY HAS TO DO THAT.

TRUST BUT VERIFY ON THIS BOARD. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: A WATER

MANAGEMENT INQUIRY. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MR. CALDWELL, A LOT OF GOOD NEWS.

A LOT OF PROJECTS. ANY ADDITION OR DELETION.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: CHANGES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NONE. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? CHRISTINE IS NOT HERE.

SOMEONE IS HANDLING THIS ON 5. IT IS A PLAT APPROVAL ON THE

CONSENT AGENDA. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: ORCHARD PARK.

THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THEY WANT TO DEDICATE THE ROAD TO THE COUNTY AND WE AS A COMMISION HAVE A PRETTY LONGSTANDING CONDITION THAT WE ARE NOT ACCE ACCEPTING ROADS THAT THEY NEED TO REMAIN PRIVATE.

AND I THINK I WAS GOING TO EITHER REQUEST THIS ITEM BE WITHDRAWN OR IF WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT, THAT WE CAN VOTE ON IT.

BUT I HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH CHRISTINE YESTERDAY AND I THINK

YOU ALL WERE SITTING IN. >> IF I CAN COMMENT ON COMMISSIONER DEAN'S COMMENTS, IF IT IS THE BOARD'S PREROGATIVE TO REMOVE THIS, WE RECOMMEND NOT TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA TODAY BUT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE EASEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH DIFFERENTLY IF THE ROADS WILL BE PRIVATE RATHER THAN PUBLIC AND WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE A FURTHER LOOK AT IT.

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>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MR. MEGGETT.

YOUR PROPOSAL IS TO REMOVE 5. VOTE ON IT NOW BEFORE THE FINAL CONSENT AGENDA? WE CAN TAKE ALL THE ITEMS AT ONCE PROBABLY IS BETTER. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PROCEED IS G GOOD.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I HAVE NO DAY DIGSES OR DELETIONS.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: ITEM 25. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YOU ARE PROPOSING TO MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA?

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: YES, SIR. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE WILL MOVE IT TO REGULAR ITEM NUMBER 7. WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

BEING MOVED TO ITEM NUMBER 7. >> I THINK ADMIN AND LEGAL HAVE

ITEMS THEY PROPOSE FOR REMOVAL. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: OH.

>> CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 9. >> REMOVED FOR FUTURE

CONSIDERATION. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: SO CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 9 MOVED BY ADMINISTRATION.

MR. MEGGETT. >> CONSENT NUMBER 4 REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA. THE AGENDA HAS NOT GOTTEN ALL THE REQUIRED PAPERWORK ON THAT ONE.

WILL COME BACK ON THE 17TH OF OCTOBER.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: SO CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 5 REMOVED FOR FURTHER CONSIDERING. ITEM NUMBER 25 REMOVED FROM CONSENT AND MOVED TO REGULAR ITEM NUMBER 7.

NUMBER 9 IS BEING MOVED BY ADMINISTRATION AND ARE CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 4 IS REMOVED BY LEGAL TODAY TO BE PUT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ON OCTOBER 17. DO I HAVE ALL THAT CORRECT?

DO WE HAVE A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: AN AMENDED MOTION AND AN AMENDED SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, SO IS THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED THEN PASSES.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE ALREADY TAKEN THE VOTE.

LET'S HEAR FROM PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

GOOD MORNING. >> BJ KALALY.

THE ONLY ITEM ITEM NUMBER 15 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I DON'T KNOW IF MISS SHAUNA IS HERE. TRANSPARENCY FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HEARD, THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IS A HOSPITAL FOR FLAGLER. I THINK WHEN THIS ITEM WAS PUT ON HERE, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED THERE.

FOR EVERYONE TO BE AWARE IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IS TAKEN OVER FLAGLER BUT THE NAME IS STILL PART OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

GOOD MORNING. >> ANA MARIE HEAVENS, ROBERTS ROAD. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.

I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION WHEN THESE THINGS COME BEFORE THE PUBLIC OR BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND THE BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION GOES OUT, IT IS HELPFUL TO HAVE THINGS SPELLED OUT.

INCREASES TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC TRUST IN THE SYSTEM.

THIS IS FOR THE PURCHASE OF BUSES.

THE PAPERWORK THAT IS INCLUDED FOR THE CONSENT ITEMS USES TERMS LIKE USEFUL LIFE BUT DOESN'T SPELL WHAT A USEFUL LIFE OF THESE BUSES IS. FOR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, LEAVES A BIG BLANK. ALSO SAYS "MUST BE TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE" BUT DOESN'T REALLY SAY WHY.

SO THIS -- WHEN IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE PART OF, IT IS HELPFUL IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN ASCERTAIN WHETHER THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE EXPENDITURE OR NOT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MISS EVANS, IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU CLICK ON A CONSENT ITEM -- EVERYTHING IS SORT OF CLICKABLE. THERE IS A STAFF MEMBER ASSIGNED

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THE AMENDED CONSENT AGENDA. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: MOVE.

>> SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE WILL VOTE ONCE AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA THAT PASSES 5-0. MOVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO, SIR. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NONE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I HAVE NONE. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE.

[1. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2023-03 11280 US 1 North Self-Storage (FAR).]

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NONE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

NOW A REGULAR AGENDA MR. WESTER, READY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, BRAD WESTER, DRIVER MCAFEE HAWTHORNE & DIEBENOW, ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE, SUITE 100, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. THE APPLICANT AND AGENT FOR THIS ITEM AND I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME BCC HAS HEARD THIS.

THE FIRST TIME WAS TRANSMITTAL ROUND.

THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT WAS HEARD AT PZA IN MAY, AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN JUNE DURING THE TRANSMITTAL ROUND, IT GOES TO THE STATE AND OUR FINAL ADOPTION OF HEARINGS.

PZA HEARD THIS OCTOBER 7. AND, OF COURSE, TODAY IS THE FINAL HEARING. THIS IS A REQUEST TO INCREASE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO AS A SITE-SPECIFIC TEXT POLICY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 0.25 ACRE SITE.

I WILL SHOW YOU A MAP ON THAT. I IS AN ENCLOSED AIR-CONDITIONED CLIMATE-CONTROLLED FACILITY AND NO OUTSIDE STORAGE. AND POTENTIAL LAND USE AND ZONING. SMALL LOT SIZE.

REGULAR SHAPE. DOES CONTRIBUTE WITH THE DESIGN OF ONLY A 50% F.A.R. FOR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

THIS IS AUTO LOCATION VICINITY MAP OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU SEE THAT ON THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY ALONG U.S. 1 ON THE EAST SIDE OF U.S. 1, AND I WILL DESCRIBE IT MORE SPECIFICALLY IN AN AERIAL IN A SECOND. THESE ARE LAND USE AND ZONING MAPS. COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING AND LAND USE.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY. AND I AM GOING TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SURROUNDING CHARACTER OF USES HERE.

OUR NEIGHBOR IS A -- THE CROSSROADS PLAZA AND OPERATED BY A DAY CARE AND PRESCHOOL. THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL LOT NEXT TO US. A LITTLE TRIANGLE POINT 1 ACRES OF NONCONFORMING USE. RV AND BOAT STORAGE AROUND THE PROPERTY, ONE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

TO THE EAST ABUTTING THE PROPERTY.

CLICK HERE. INDUSTRIAL ACROSS THE STREET.

THE RAILROAD, THE COUNTY 210 OVERPASS TO THE SOUTH.

THE NOCATEE TO THE NORTH. OPINIONED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL VEHICLE REPAIR FACILITY JUST TO OUR NORTH.

AND FUTURE COMMERCIAL SITE THAT BELONGS TO THE NACATY DEVELOPMENT. OUTLINE OF THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS ALONG U.S. 1. THERE IS A NOCATY FLYOVER AND EVERY OVERTON -- 210 OVERPASS TO THE SOUTH.

THE CONTEXT IS JUST THE HEIGHT IN THE AREA.

WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A HEIGHT WAIVER OR DEVIATION AS PART OF OUR REQUEST. CROSS.

ROADS PLAZA TO THE NORTH. YOU SEE THE BUILDING AND THE MARQUEE SIGN ON ITS ENTRANCE. JUST TO THE SOUTH HERE IS THE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. LITTLE TRIANGLE PARCEL ABUTTING ON U.S. 1. RV V AND BOAT STORAGE ALL AROUND THE PROPERTY. YOU SEE A PICTURE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE STEEL FRAMING GOING -- THE ERECTION OF THE STEEL FRAMING ON THE PROPERTY.

IT -- THIS AERIAL IS -- IT IS THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OLD SO HAD PROGRESS THEN. A CONCEPT OF THE PROPERTY SHOWING THE FACILITY WHICH IS THE ENCLOSED SELF-STORAGE, THE ENTRY, THE PARKING. DON'T NEED A LOT OF PARKING.

THE TURN AROUND, STORMWATER. AND THIS IS THE LIMITATION PER THE 50%. SO THE RED IS SHOWING WHAT IT WILL BE IF 14,000-SQUARE-FOOT PLATE THERE.

MULTIPLY THAT BY THREE STORIES.WE ARE REQUESTING THREE STORIES AND 32,000-SQUARE-FOOT FOOTPRINT.

HAS A SIMILAR HEIGHT AND MASS FROM U.S. 1 COMPARED TO THE 50% F.A.R. AND HERE IS OUR PROPERTY.

AND THEN WITH THIS SITE PLAN OVER THE AERIAL, SHOWING IT IN CONTEXT TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY THERE.

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98 SNOUSHGS 250 SQUARE FEET WHICH GENERALLY BE ENCLOSED SELF-STORAGE IS 100,000 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRY STANDARD AND WE ARE JUST SHY OF THAT. COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE MAXIMUM OF 50% AND MAX OF 75. WE NEED THE ISR.

WE ARE BELOW THAT. A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE F.A.R. ASSOCIATED WITH A SPECIFIC USE IE, SELF-STORAGE THAT MAY OTHERWISE GENERATE DEMAND.

AND ALL OTHER STANDARDS WILL BE MET WITH HEIGHT, PARKING, STORM AND LANDSCAPING .THIS IS A CONCEPT OF THE ENCLOSED SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. GOING THROUGH SOME IMAGERY HERE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERS. SELF-STORAGE IS A VERY LOW INTENSIVE USE AND PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND ALLOWED IN INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL. NO WETLANDS, INTO FLOODPLAIN, NO SPECIES OF CONCERN ON THE PROPERTY.

MITIGATING ELEMENTS OF THIS BY WAY OF A TEXT POLICY IS LESS LAND IS NEEDED. LESS IMPERVIOUS AND LOT COVERAGES. SIMILAR MASS AND PERSPECTIVE OF THE ORIGINAL 50% AS SHOWN. AND IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND NEARBY USES AND MUCH LESS TRAFFIC.

APPROVALS TO DATE. UNANIMOUS APPROVALS OF PZA IN MAY AND SEPTEMBER AND UNANIMOUS AT BOCC IN JUNE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS AN ABBREVIATED POWERPOINT COMPARED TO THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS SEEN BEFORE YOU, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE MOVING FORWARD. I HAVE MY CIVIL ENGINEER WITH

ME. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YES, I WAS WONTDERRING WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT RIGHT THERE?

>> THAT IS A GREAT WE. I THINK IT IS 55.

U.S. 1. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: DO YOU NEED MORE ROOM TO GET OFF INTO THERE A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, SO WE WILL. THERE IS A -- THERE IS AN FDOT ROADWAY. THE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY WERE, BEFORE WE -- THE COUNTY ISSUES ANY CONSTRUCTION PERMITS WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR CORRESPONDENCE AND PREAPPLICATION MEETING WITH F. D.O.T. TO DECIDE HOW THAT DECEL LANE WILL AFFECT THE PROPERTY. ACCURATE TO ACCOMMODATE T THE DECEL FOR OUR ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: AND THE EXIT.

>> YES. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: DID YOU TALK TO THE NEIGHBOR? I DIDN'T.

THEY GAVE A LETTER TO THE COUNTY WHICH WAS BY REGULAR MAIL WITH NO ADDRESS -- SORRY, NO E-MAIL AND NO PHONE NUMBER.

SO WE ATTEMPTED TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR, BUT THE PROPERTY HAS A GATE AROUND IT AND EVERYTHING. SO WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY LIVE THERE.

THEY HAVE A GREEN COVE ADDRESS BUT WE TRIED TO REACH OUT BEYOND

THE YOU CAN WILL I CAN NOTICE. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I NOTICE IT IS HEAVILY WOODED AND I WAS WONDERING TO KEEP THE BUFFER SOMEWHERE IN THERE, EVEN THAT HAS ALREADY GROWN NEXT TO THE

SCHOOL WOULD BE -- >> YES, WE ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO KEEP AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DEVIATION FROM THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT.

THERE IS A COMMERCIAL USE JUST TO THE NORTH AND WILL ADHERE TO THE LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR ANY SCREENING AND BUFFERING ALONG THAT. WE TALKED TO THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH OUR FACILITY. BEING A VERY LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR. BUT WE WILL DO THE LANDSCAPING CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY UNCOMPLIMENTARY USE ABUTTING OR TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH OR THE EAST OR THE WEST AND ATTEMPT TO KEEP AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE ON THE SITE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE STORAGE UNIT ON TARGET NEXT TO A1A. THEY KEPT THE OAK TREES AND MAKE IT LOOK MUCH BETTER. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY APPLICANTS, LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS?

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. IS THAT ALL RIGHT?

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: TO IMPROVE AND ENACT ORDINANCE 2023-47, APPROVING THE ADOPTION OF COMP PLAN 2023-03, 11280 U.S. 1 NORTH SELF-STORAGE F.A.R. AS FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

[2. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2022-18 Tedder Variance.]

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: PASSES 5 MACHINE 0. ITEM NUMBER TWO, A QUASI.

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>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: NO EX-PAR DAY.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: NONE. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: NONE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NONE. >> I AM TRUDY DUPONT-TEDDER.

AND I'M HERE FOR THE NONZONING VARIANCE FOR TEDDER.

THE FIRST ONE IS A LOCATION MAP. IT IS LOCATED RIGHT OFF OF U.S.

1. THE REQUEST -- WE ARE SEEKING RELIEF FOR THE SUBDIVISION PLATTING REQUIREMENTS TO FOLLOW FOR DIVISION FOR FOUR SEPARATE 4.88-ACRE LOTS.

THE SITE PLAN. THE PROPERTY WAS LEFT TO BE DIVIDED AMONGST FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.

IT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE TRUST PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. THE EXISTING EASEMENT WILL BE BROUGHT UP TO COMPLIANCE TO MEET THE EASEMENT STANDARDS FOUND IN SECTION 60407B-2 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO WE ARE WANTING TO BUILD A HOME FOR MY SON, WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED ON THIS PROPERTY. IT HAS BEEN IN OUR FAMILY FOR

100 YEARS. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: JUST 100 YEARS. A CENTURY OF OWNERSHIP.

>> YES. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MISS TRUDY DUPONT-TEDDER? THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.

WELCOME. >> HI.

I NEVER HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE. OKAY.

DOMINIQUE MENDEZ. 420 LIOTA DRIVE.

THE SECOND PROPERTY THE ONE IT IS CLOSE TO.

YOURS -- YOUR SECOND ONE. WE CAN SEE YOUR HOUSE.

THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS. I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS.

MORE LIKE QUESTIONS. WE HAVE A VERY PRIVATE LOT.

CONSERVATION BEHIND US. WE HAVE THAT PROPERTY.

A LITTLE MORE PRIVATE BEFORE THE TREES WERE CUT DOWN WHICH GAVE -- BUT IT WAS WITHIN YOUR RIGHT AND WE ACCEPTED IT.

BUT, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REALLY.

THERE ARE THOSE WOODS THAT ABUT OUR PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY -- YEAH, ALONG THAT SIDE, YOU KNOW WITH THE BLUE HOUSE.

I SPOKEN TO YOUR HUSBAND. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO REMAIN BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE A GOOD BUFFER. SHOULD I ASK THE QUESTIONS FIRST

-- >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, ASK YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE THE CLOCK IS

TICKING. >> SO ABOUT THE TREES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT GREAT EXISTING STRUCTURE.

I AM THINKING YOU ARE GOING TO LEAVE THEM.

BUT I AM NOT POSITIVE. THAT SECOND PARCEL, NOT THE ONE THAT IS MOST NORTH BUT THE SECOND ONE THAT WILL ALSO STILL BE YOURS. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU INTEND TO BUILD ON THE PARCEL AND KEEP THE EXISTING WOODS THAT ARE THERE. AND THEN CONFIRM THE SETBACKS ON THAT. BECAUSE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING BUILT THERE BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THE LOT, IT WOULD GET PRETTY CLOSE -- YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO OUR HOUSE AND A POOL AND A LANAI.

QUICK SEE YOUR HOUSE AND KIND OF IN THE DISTANCE WITH THE TREES WE DON'T NOTICE IT MUCH AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T NOTICE IT THAT MUCH. AND HOPING IT WILL STAY THAT

WAY. >> TO EXPLAIN --

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MISS TRUDY DUPONT-TEDDER.

WE WANT TO FINISH PUBLIC COMMENT AND CLOSE THAT OUT AND YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAD A PINE TREE -- THE BIG PINE TREE THAT THE BEETLES DESTROYED AND COULD POTENTIALLY FALL ON OUR LANAI AND WE TALKED TO YOUR HUSBAND AND CUT THAT DOWN AND STUFF AND COOPERATED. WE PAID FOR IT AND CUT IT DOWN.

AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR DOING THAT.

AND CONTINUE THAT COOPERATION, BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT THERE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WONDERFUL. >> THAT'S IT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> SHOULD I GO BACK DOWN. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: PLEASE.

>> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON A EDGE ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MISS TRUDY DUPONT-TEDDER, THE FLOOR IS

YOURS. >> PRIOR TO US SUBDIVIDING THIS INTO FOUR DIFFERENT PROPERTIES. THE LAND WAS AGRICULTURAL.

MY DAD WORKED FOR ITT RAINIER. THEY PLANTED PINES.

BEFORE MY DAD PASSED AID WAY, HE HAD THE LAND -- THE TIMBER TAKEN AWAY. WE REPLACED IT WITH OVER THE 6,000 PINE TREES .SO THEY ARE GROWING AND THEY ARE THERE.

SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT. AND, YES, THE BUFFER WILL BE THERE. WE DON'T PLAN ON BUILDING ON THE SECOND LOT AS OF RIGHT NOW. WE ARE JUST CONCERNED FOR MY SON

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>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: DID THAT ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.

THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SETBACKS TOO.

TO CONFIRM THE SETBACKS. MR. ROBINSON, CAN YOU LEND SOME INSIGHT. FOR A LOT OF US LAYMAN, IT IS A FOREIGN LACK. PROVIDE EXPERT INSIGHT.

>> SO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS ZONED OPEN RURAL -- MIKE ROBINSON DIRECTOR OF GROWTH PLANNING.

WE LOOK AT ARTICLE 6 OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR OPEN RURAL.

SETBACKS ARE 25 FEET FRONT, 10 SIDE, 10 REAR.

THAT MEANS WHAT A SETBACK IS, THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY

LINE TO A STRUCTURE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAS A

QUESTION. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YES, THE ROAD THAT IS SON THE BORDER -- RIGHT THERE ON THE BORDER, IS THAT WHERE YOUR HOME IS ON THAT SIDE? MY HOME IS THE CUL-DE-SAC. YOU SEE THE CUL-DE-SAC ON THE BO BOTTOM.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YES. >> THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THE -- A BORDER OF TREES OR SOMETHING THERE? YES.

THAT -- WE LEFT A BORDER OF TREES WHEN WE -- WHEN MY DAD DID

THE -- >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ACCIDENT? COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I WILL OFFER A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE NZ VAR 2022-18 DEADER VARIANCE OF 5.01.01.CSEEKING RELIEF FROM SUBDIVISION PLATTING REQUIREMENTS WITH THE FIVE

CONDITIONS. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND.

[3. Consideration of the allocation of Tourist Development Tax Reserves for the funding of the Fort Mose reconstruction project.]

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

MISS MEEKS, GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, TERA MEEKS, DIRECTOR OF TOURISM AND CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT AN ITEM FOR THE ALLOCATION OF TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX RESERVE OF THE FORT PROJECT.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT, THE FORT MOSE.

THEY ARE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FLORIDA PARKING SERVICE AND WORKING TO RECONSTRUCT THE 1738 OF ST. JOHNS FORT M OOHSE OF FORT MOSE STATE PARK LOCATED HALF A MILE AWAY FROM HERE, IF EVEN. TO DATE, THE FLORIDA PARKS FOUNDATION RAISED $1.1 MILLION FROM THE FLORIDA PARK SERVICE.

APPLIED AND RECEIVED A DEPARTMENT GRANT FROM THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORICAL GRANT FOR NEARLY $$1 MILLION.

AS PART OF THAT GRANT APPLICATION, THEY ACTUALLY CAME BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BACK IN 2021 AND CONTRIBUTED $50,000 TO THE PROJECT AS A GRANT MATCH.

AND THEY ALSO RAISED FROM PRIVATE DONATIONS $493,387.

CURRENTLY TO GET THE PROJECT UP AND GOING, THEY DO STILL NEED AN ANTICIPATED $500,000 IN REVENUE. AND AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSIONS AND EARLIER MEETING THAT OCCURRED IN AUGUST, WE ARE COMING BACK TO -- FOR A CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONAL $200,000 OF FUNDING FOR THE TOUCHIST DEVELOPMENT TAX RESERVES. IF THE FUNDING REQUEST IS GRANTED, STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE FLORIDA PARKS FOUNDATION TO DEVELOP AN AGREEMENTS FOR USE OF THE FUNDS, AND THAT AGREEMENT FOR THE PROJECT FUNDING WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE CONSENT AGENDA FOR FURTHER BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER REVIEW IN AN UPCOMING MEETING. SO OPTIONS THAT ARE HERE BEFORE YOU THAT QUICK CONSIDER A MOTION TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDING FROM TDT CATEGORY 2 RESERVES, THE ARTS, CULTURAL AND HERITAGE CATEGORY THAT WILL GO TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

YOU ALSO CAN SEND IT TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND THEY CAN COME BACK FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR FUNDING.

OR I AM ALWAYS HERE FOR ADDITIONAL DIRECTION AND ADVISEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD OR YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO TAKE NO

FURTHER ACTION. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE HISTORICAL AND KULTD RALE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS

AND THE TOURISM VALUE? >> I CAN.

I WILL DO THE FIRST PART TO ANSWER THE FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION AND ANSWER THE SECOND PART.

DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FLORIDA PARKS SERVICE.

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>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THAT WILL BE GREAT.

>> FORT MOSE IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THE FIRST SANCTIONED BLACK SEGMENT IN THE TERRITORY THAT WOULD LIGHTER BE THE UNITED STATES. SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THE FORTS.

THE 1738 WAS CONSTRUCTED OF WOOD AND EARTH AND I BELIEVE IT SUCCUMBED TO FIRE, I BELIEVE THE TOANCE TO TOURISM IS THIS IS A CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT SITE. IT WAS ACTUALLY DISCOVERED THE EXACT LOCATION BACK IN THE 1980S, I BELIEVE.

AND LATER TURNED INTO A STATE PARK.

THE STATE PARK IF AND THE FLORIDA PARKS FOUNDATION ESTIMATE THAT HAVING THIS FORT CONSTRUCTED WILL INCREASE VISITATION ANNUALLY BY 20% TO THE PARK AND GIVINGS A TANGIBLE REPRESENTATION OF HISTORY. I MEAN, IT IS NEAT TO STAND IN A PLACE THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

GORGEOUS OAK TREES. A GREAT PLACE TO WATCH WILDLIFE.

ON THE EDGE OF THE WATER AND BEAUTIFUL SALT MARSHES AND GREAT TO ENVISION WHAT USED TO BE AND TO SEE IT.

A GREAT LEARNING TOOL AND HELPS TO BUILD OUR DIVERSE AND DYNAMIC CULTURE HERE, OUR HISTORICAL CULTURE AND GIVES PEOPLE ANOTHER THING TO VISIT. ANOTHER THING TO COME AND STAY LONGER, ANOTHER REASON TO STAY IN OUR HOTELS AND SPEND THEIR

MONEY HERE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM

EVERYBODY. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

GOOD MOMORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

I GUESS I NEED TO TURN IT ON -- >> IT'S ON.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: LOUD AND CLEAR.

>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> I DIDN'T GET A HE CAN COULD HE.

SO I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT TWICE.

I AM CHARLES ELLIS, PRESIDENT OF FORT MOSE.

I HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS. THOMAS JACK ON AND CEDRIC LEE FOR THE FORTMOSE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING.

ST. JOHNS FORT MOSE IS A NATIONAL LANDMARK DEDICATED BECOME IN 1984. IT HELPS WITH PEOPLE LOCALLY, NATIONALLY. IT IS ENTWINED WITH THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND FEW PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE FORT.

RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FORT WILL HELP ILLUMINATE THE STORY OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICANS THAT CANNOT BE OVERSTATED AND DENIED.

THIS FORT IS ACTUALLY THE ONE OF THE HIGH POINTS OF THE AREA NOR ST. AUGUSTINE. WE FEEL BY HAVING THIS FORT HERE WILL CERTAINLY INCREASE THE TOURISTS IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

AND ALSO INCREASE THE AWARENESS OF WHAT THE FORT IS ALL ABOUT AND WHAT THE ST. JOHNS FORT STANDS FOR.

THE FORTMOSE COURAGE. AND TO BRING IN ITS OWN HONOR TO TELL THE STORY. THE SUCCESSFUL PARTIES AND THE STORIES THAT WE HAVE TO TELL HERE AND THE FOLKS THAT COME IN TO SEE THESE -- THE LOCATION AND ALSO THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. FORT MOSE HAS AN IMPORTANT CULTURAL LINK TO OUR SOPHISTICATED TRAVEL FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE THROUGH HERE AND FLORIDA BEYOND DESERVES TO HEAR OF, THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THEIR ANCESTORS BY TELLING THIS STORY AND OTHERS THAT THERE IS A HISTORY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN ST. AUGUSTINE. AND A DIVERSE HISTORY THAT ECHOS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. FOR SOME 20-PLUS YEARS, THE PARK HAS HOSTED THOUSANDS OF SCHOOL CHILDREN FROM ALL OVER FLORIDA, GEORGIA AND BEYOND. THEY WILL BE THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW -- EXCUSE ME -- SO PERHAPS YOU CAN THINK OF THIS AS INVESTMENT INTO THE FUTURE OF THE CONTRIBUTION OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT OUT OF THE THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN, SCHOOL TOURS THAT COME TO FORT MOSE AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FIGHT FOR FREEDOM THE LAST 25 YEARS.

WE HAD THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN COME.

AND USUALLY THE ONE THING THAT CHILDREN SAY -- YOU GOT TO BE HONEST WITH CHILDREN. WHEN YOU IS A I WE ARE GOING TO GO ON A TOUR TODAY AND TODAY WILL BE A FORT, WELL, WHEN YOU WALK OUTSIDE, AND THEY DON'T SEE THE ST. JOHNS.

THEY SAY WHERE IS FORT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

TIME IS UP, SIR. SORRY.

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>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THE GENTLEMAN WHO ARE STANDING WITH YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THREE MINUTES APIECE.

>> THOMAS JACKSON, GOOD MORNING. 917 CHIPPEWA STREET, ST.

AUGUSTINE. I WANT TO SAY, HERE WE GO AGAIN.

2004 WE WERE BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.

AND YOU CAME THROUGH FOR US. PURCHASING THE LAND.

AND FROM THERE, WE DEVELOPED THE LAND TO TELL THE STORY OF ST.

JOHNS FORT MOSE. TO ADD A LITTLE BIT WHAT TERA SAID EARLIER, THE FORT -- ACTUALLY TWO SITES TO THE FORT.

IN 1738. DESTROYED BY THE BRITISH IN 1740. AND A BLOODY BATTLE AND THE FIRST MAJOR DEFEAT OF THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AMERICA.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY BRITISH HISTORIANS THAT FAVOR THE BRITISH, BUT THEY GOT WHOOPED.

THEN THE SECOND FORT WAS BUILT A LITTLE FURTHER EAST ON THE ROBINSON CREEK. AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE REMNANTS OF THAT WE HAD AT LEAST ABOUT 10 OR 12 ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS ON THAT SITE WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, FLAGLER COLLEGE, DAVIDSON UNIVERSITY AND SEVERAL UNIVERSITIES AROUND THE REGION AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS ON THAT SITE AND UNCOVERED QUITE A FEW ARTIFACTS THAT AUTHENTICATE THE SITE.

BASICALLY WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS PRESERVE A PIECE OF HISTORY THAT WAS IGNORED OVER THE PAST. AND IT WAS EVEN IGNORED BY AN ORGANIZATION THAT I AM REALLY ACTUALLY LEADING RIGHT NOW THE ST. AUGUSTINE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

WE ARE TRYING TO TELL THE STORY -- THE WHOLE STORY.

AND THE WHOLE STORY INCLUDES A LOT OF HISTORY THAT IN A THE PAST HAVE BEEN SUPPRESSED. FORT M POSHGZOSE STORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD BECAUSE GIVES A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE STRUGGLES OF TRYING TO KEEP ST. AUGUSTINE ALIVE AND KEEP IT AS A CITY, BUT ALSO THE STORY OF ST. AUGUSTINE INITIALLY GIVING RISE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

IT IS AMERICA'S HISTORY.

SO. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID IN THE PAST AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN

THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

WELCOME. >> JULIA WOODWARD, TALLAHASSEE.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WHITEHURST FOR THE COMMISSION TO ALLOW ME TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES OF THE IMPORTANCE OF FORT MOSE STATE PARK. I AM CEO OF THE FLORIDA STATE PARKS FOUNDATION, THE OFFICIAL 501-C-3 FOR THE FLORIDA PARK SERVICE. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO PARTNER WITH THE ST. JOHNS FORT MOSE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND STATE PARK IN ITS MISSION TO TREAT THE 1738 THAT ONCE STOOD ON THE PROPERTY. SEVERAL CENTURIES AGO.

AS TERA OUTLINED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE QUITE A BIT OF PARTNERSHIP AND MONEY.

THANK YOU FOR THE $50,000 SUPPORT YOU ALL GAVE IN 2021 TO GET THIS BALL ROLLING AND ALLOWED US TO APPLY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE GRANT WE RAISED 2.5 MILLION AND SEEKING THAT ADDITIONAL $500. THE REQUEST TODAY FOR A $200,000 ALLOCATION FROM THE COUNTY. I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY WE HAVE TWO LARGE CAPACITY PARTNERS THAT TODAY WILL BE GIVING THE REMAINING $300,000 BALANCE. AND SO IF YOU ALL WERE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS, WE THINK -- IN ABOUT A MONTH TOO TWO MONTHS, WE WOULD KNOW OF THE REMAINING $200,000 THAT TWO WOULD COMPLETELY FILL THE FUNDING GAP WE HAVE WITH OUR COST ESTIMATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THOSE REQUESTS.

WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE SHOWN THIS PROJECT SINCE ITS INCEPTION. AND WE ARE SO EXCITED TO BE SO CLOSE TO RE-CREATING THE 1730 THAT WILL SERVE AS A SIM BAR OF COURAGE AND FREEDOM FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND WE ARE EXCITED FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY THAT WE HAVE PLANNED IN JANUARY AND WE HOPE YOU ALL CAN

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JOHNS COUNTY, FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND FOR OUR COUNTRY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

MA'AM. WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS RICHARD GOLDMAN.

I LIVE AT 178 WATER OAK APPLICANT IS DRIVE IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH. I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA STATE PARKS FOUNDATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW I AM A RETIRED CEO OF THE ST. JOHNS VISITORS AN CONVENTION BUREAU. I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THIS REALLY ESSENTIAL HISTORICAL ASSET IN OUR COUNTRY'S RICH TOURISM OFFERINGS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS HOME TO AUTHENTIC YET LITTLE-KNOWN ELEMENTS IN OUR NATION'S VERY IMPORTANT HISTORY. NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS EXPERIENCE OF FORMERLY ENSLAVED PEOPLE AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO WHAT BECAME THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THE RECONSTRUCTION OF FORT MOSE WILL STAND ON THE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS WHILE CONTRIBUTING TO DEMONSTRATING THE TRIALS AND HARDSHIPS OF LIFE IN 18TH CENTURY COLONIAL AMERICA AS A LEADER IN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.I SAW THE HISTORIC PARK TO INNUMERABLE TO STUDENTS AND ADULTS ALIKE. AFTER SHARING THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT LOCATION, I WAS HIT WITH TWO QUESTIONS ALMOST EVERY TIME.

THE FIRST WAS, WHERE IS THE FORT? FOLLOWED BY WHEN WILL THERE BE A FORT.

YOU SEE IN THIS WORLD OF RAPID INFORMATION AN AMAZING CLUTTER IN OUR LIVES, ADULTS AND CHILDREN FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO FOCUS ON THINGS AND WE NEED A TANGIBLE EXPERIENCE TO CAPTURE IMAGINATION, TO INSPIRE A SENSE OF LEARNING AND TO BUILD THEIR KNOWLEDGE. MY MOTHER WAS AN EDUCATOR.

SHE HAD A LONG CAREER. SHE HAD TAUGHT GRADE SCHOOL STUDENTS, AS WELL AS COLLEGE STUDENTS.

AND SHE WOULD SHARE WITH US ALL THE TIME THAT WHILE A PICTURE IS WORTH 1,000 WORDS, AN EXPERIENCE IS INVALUABLE.

HAND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.

TODAY YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE WHAT COULD BE THE FINAL FUNDING STEP TO MAKE THE FORT A REALITY.

AND THAT REALITY WILL PAY GOOD DIVIDENDS AND TO THE ECONOMY AND PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS FUNDING REQUEST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

3084, ED SLAVIN.COM. I ENTHUSE ASLY SUPPORT THE MOTION. THE LAST TIME THE REPUBLICANS SHUT DOWN OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN DECEMBER OF 2018, A VISITING FAMILY FRIEND FROM THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION -- NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCIES, NSA OR NO SUCH AGENCY WAS HERE AND HE WAS CRESTFALLEN THAT WE COULD NOT GO TO THE CASTILLO OF SAN MARCOS. I TOOK HIM IN TO FORT MOSE AND HE WAS SO IMPRESSED. HE NEVER HEARD OF IT, BUT THE P PALPITATING FOCUS IS THAT THE RAILROAD RAN SOUTH FROM ST. AUGUSTINE RIGHT HERE.

AND THE BRITISH BURNED ST. AUGUSTINE TO THE GROUND SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE THE SPANISH -- IF YOU WERE BLACK AND A SLAVE FROM SOUTH CAROLINA, AND YOU CAME DOWN TO ST. AUGUSTINE AND MADE IT HERE THROUGH THE SWAMPS -- SPANISH CATHOLICS WOULD FREE YOU IF YOU AGREED TO BECOME A CATHOLIC, A ROMAN CATHOLIC AND IF YOU AGREED TO SERVE IN THE MILITIA FOR A YEAR.

THIS WAS HISTORY. AND THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.

AND THE STUDY IN 2004 BY THE NATIONAL TRUST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION ESTABLISHES ON ST. AUGUSTINE HISTORY AND OTHER HISTORY, THAT HISTORIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL TOURISTS SPEND TWICE AS MUCH AND STAY TWICE AS LONG.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED IN ST. AUGUSTINE OVER THE YEARS IS OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY.

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MY LATE FRIEND STETSON KENNEDY WILL BE VERY PROUD FOR YOU ALL DOING THIS. AND PROUD OFF THIS PRESERVED THE COUNTY PARK. AND BEFORE HE PASSED, I ASKED STETSON. I SAID, STETSON, WOULD BE COOLING TO CONVERT AS PART OF THE THAT,AL PARK IN SEASHORE.

ABSOLUTELY. ONE DAY I HOPE IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE WITH A ST. AUGUSTINE NATIONAL HISTORICAL PARK AND NATIONAL SEASHORE.

WE CAN TURN THE KEYS TO FORTMOSE TO IT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND HAVE THE LEVEL OF FUNDING NECESSARY AND INTERPRETATION.

I WANT TO SEE GUYS WITH SMOKER THE BEAR HATS WALKING THROUGH LINCOLNVILLE AND SHOW THESE HOLD PLACE WHERE DR. KING AND ANDREW YOUNG SPOKE A LARGE VISITOR CENTER LIKE THE NATIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS MUSEUM IN MEMPHIS THAT MY LATE PROFESSOR ESTABLISHED.

THANK YOU FOR THIS. >> THANK YOU, MR. SLAVIN.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS .I AM VICKY PEPPER. I LIVE ON HARBOR VISTA CIRCLE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. AND I'M HERE AND REPRESENTING MY CAVE AND CARE, COMMUNITIED A VIS CATS FOR RACIAL EQUITY.

WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT CIVIL ACTION GROUP THAT GREW OUT OF ST. AUGUSTINE'S ONGOING COMMUNITY CONVERSATION EFFORTS.

WE NEED A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY, BUT NOT NOT HERE FOR THAT TODAY. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT USING TOURIST HE IS DEVELOPMENT TO HELP THE RECONSTRUCTION OF SKP FORT MOSE. ST. AUGUSTINE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR MANY REASONS BUT FORT MOSE IS A LOCAL, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL TREASURE. ONLY ONE FORT MOSE.

THE FIRST LEGALLY SANCTIONED BLACK SETTLEMENT IN THE UNITED STATES. A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AND ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES UNESCO, SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION ADDED FORTMOSE AS A GLOBAL SLAVE ROUTES PROJECT. UNTIL I MOVED TO ST. AUGUSTINE, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A SOUTHERN UNDERGROUND RAILROAD WHOSE TERMINUS WAS RIGHT HERE IN ST. PETERSBURG, LET ALONE IT EXISTED BEFORE THE MORE WIDELY KNOWN NORTHERN ROUTES DEVELOPED.

THANKS TO THE GOOD WORK OF THE FORT MOW SAY HISTORICAL SATURDAY. IT IS ALREADY A WONDERFUL HISTORIC SITE BUT THE FLORIDA STATE PARKS PROJECT TO RECONSTRUCT THE 1738 VERSION OF FORT MOSE WILL ADD A NEW RICHNESS AND DEPTH TO THE EXPERIENCE THAT GREATLY ENHANCE THE AVAILABILITY OF VISITORS, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF FORTMO SE, IMPORTANT PART OF BLACK HISTORY IN NORTH AMERICA BUT IMPORTANT PART OF THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. PROPOSED ADDITIONAL 200,000 FROM THE COUNTY WILL MOVE THE PROJECT SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER IF NOT PROVIDING THE FINAL PIECE FOR COMPLETING THE FUNDING NEEDED TO RECONSTRUCT FORTMOSE ON THE SITE OF THE STATE PARK WITH.

WITH THE INCREASING EMPHASIS OF HERITAGE AND HISTORICAL TOURISM AND RISING NUMBERS OF VISITORS IN ST. AUGUSTINE, IT SEEMS ESPECIALLY APPROPRIATE THAT THE COUNTY USES TOURIST DEVELOPMENT FUNDING IN THE INTEREST OF ALL RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

PLEASE ALLOCATE THE $200 OF TDT TO CATEGORY 2 RESERVE TO SUPPORT THE PARKS PROJECT TO RECONSTRUCT ST. JOHNS FORTMOSE TODAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MISS PEPPER.

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

ANY NAME IS GINGER BOARDMAN. I WASN'T HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT I DO TOURS AT THE FORT.

FOR THE FOURTH GRADERS. OVER 80,000 FOURTH GRADERS COME

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IT WAS VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN TO THE FOURTH GRADERS WHAT THE INTERIOR OF THE FORT LOOKED LIKE.

WE WOULD TELL THEM STORIES. SO THE IDEA OF 9 $200,000 BEING INVESTED IN THIS PROJECT, I CAN HONESTLY SAY FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE STUDENTS THAT COME, MAKING IT SOMETHING THAT IS TANGIBLE, TOUCHABLE, AND SOMETHING THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE WILL HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON THEM.

AS A SECOND POINT, I CONTRIBUTE ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO THE TOURIST FUND. I HAVE A VACATION RENTAL PROPERTY. AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MY FUNDS THAT I HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTING TO THIS CAUSE GO FOR ANOTHER WORTHY CAUSE OF REBUILDING FORTMOSE.

THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. SEEING NONE, CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: BACK TO THE

BOARD. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: IMPREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: QUESTIOS. COMMISSIONER DEAN, BEFORE YOU GO COMMISSIONER ALAIMO AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD MAY HAVE

QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO SAY THAT FORTMOSE IS ON IMPORTANT STORY AND PART OF OR HISTORY.

THE TDC. I WANT TO ASK OF STAFF.

THEY ARE IDENTIFY, OUR GUIDING BOARD.

THEY ARE THE INDUSTRY EXPERTS. I WANTED TO KIND OF FIND OUT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS -- A PROCESS WITHIN TDC FOR RECOMMENDING FUNDS TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS -- I KNOW WE HAVE THESE FUNDS IN RESERVES AND I SPOKEN WITH FOLKS THAT ARE INDUSTRY EXPERTS. WE HAVE THESE FUNDS IN RESERVES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE -- I MEAN THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM.

OTHER ORGANIZATIONS COMING FORWARD TO ASK FOR FUNDING.

SHOULD IT BE RUN THROUGH THE TDC AND WHAT TYPE OF PROCESS ARE IN PLACE TO GUIDE US .DO THEY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE OF WHERE THE

FUNDS SHOULD BE ALLOCATED? >> THE TOURE. DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL IS AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION.

IT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO LEVY THE BED TAX.

WE HAVE THE GREAT FORTUNE IN RECENT YEARS TO HAVE FOUND OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE SEEN PHENOMENAL GROWTH OF TAX COLLECTIONS WITHIN THE LAST, REALLY TWO OR THREE YEARS AND PRIOR TO RECENT HISTORY, WE HAD NOT HAD FUNDING AVAILABLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR REASONABLY FILL REQUESTS LIKE THIS CERTAINLY AT THIS MOMENT, WE ARE ABLE TO DO TWO FULFILL REQUESTS IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A KIND OF NEW POSITION, WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTABLISHED PROCEDURE OR PROTOCOL FOR THIS OTHER THAN LOOKING AT THE FLORIDA STATUTE AND THAT IT SETS UP THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AS AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

YOU ARE I DON'T KNOW IF WELCOMED IS THE RIGHT WORD OR ADVISED OR SUGGESTED BY FLORIDA STATUTE TO USE THAT TDC AT YOUR DISCRETION.

AND CERTAINLY THEY ARE THERE. IF YOU WERE TO DO THIS WITH THE TDC. WE WOULD TAKE IT UP IN HAD THE NEXT TDINGC MEETING IN OCTOBER AND SIX THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL -- GIVE THEM A PRESENTATION.

REQUEST THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TO GIVE US THEIR THOUGHTS AND ULTIMATELY A RECOMMENDATION OF SUPPORT AND LOOKING TO ARE A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO GO WITH IT AND ALSO A CATEGORY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WILL MOST LIKELY BE CATEGORY 2, ARTS, CULTURE, HERITAGE CATEGORY AND THE CATEGORY THAT MAKES THE MOST SE SENSE.

OTHER OPTIONS. PAY FOR IT OUT OF CATEGORY 4.

IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD USE A LITTLE MORE INPUT OR DIRECTION TO SEND IT TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ANALYSIS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS THE FUNDING GOING.

CLAREMONT WHEELCHAIR COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: TO BUILD UPON CHRISTMAS WHAT COMMISSIONER ALAIMO SAID. THIS IS AN AMAZING PROJECT.

I HAVE BEEN TO THE MUSEUM. THE CONCERT.

I WOULD LOVE FOR IN TO THE TDC DOLLARS FOR THEM TO DO A MORE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS. THAT IS KIND OF WHY WE HAVE THAT BOARD, WHY THAT BOARD IS SEATED. MY RECOMMENDATION.

A FABULOUS PROJECT AND SO IMPORTANT AND VITAL TO OUR COMMUNITY BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO BACK THROUGH TDC.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

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>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: IF IT IS SO VITAL, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE KICKED OFF TODAY BECAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO BREAK GROUND IN JANUARY AND SO IMPORTANT FOR THE MATCHING FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT. THE REASON I EVEN CAME UP WITH -- YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR THIS CONSENSUS FOR THE $200,000 IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID I MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE, BUT LET'S SEE -- IN 7/18. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD ASK FOR MONEY IN RIGHT OUT OF THE BLUE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH TDC.

I FIGURED MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN DO AND THEY WANTED TO WAIT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE TO BE LOOKED AT TO SEE IF IT WAS WORTH THAT MUCH. BUT THAT IS THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY. BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE TO NOT SEND IT BACK TO TDC AND EVERYONE DISCUSS IT IS AND ALL YOU HAVE A SUDDEN NO FUNDING FOR THESE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE THIS IS JUST INCREDIBLY LONG OVERDUE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

AND IT IS A SIGNIFICANT SITE AND I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED IF THIS FAILED TODAY. THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY OTHER THOUGHTS?

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. I WANT TO SAY THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY MOTION OR WHY I AM MAKING IT, BUT I WILL SAY MOO MY TWO FAVORITE SINGERS WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME ALL TIME WAS OTIS READING AND GLADDEN. AND SHE WAS HERE LAST YEAR APPEARING AT A FESTIVAL AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST PERFORMANCES IN THE HISTORY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY MOTION. MY MOTION SO TO ALLOCATE $200,000 OF THE TDK CATEGORY 2 FOR SUPPORT OF THE FLORIDA STATE PARK PROJECT TO RECONSTRUCT FORT MOSE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY

DISCUSSION. >> I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. FORT MOSE IS AROUND PORT OF OUR HISTORY. AND WE HAVE THAT BOARD AND SHOULD UTILIZE THE INDUSTRY EXPERTS.

MY COMMENTS BEFORE I VOTE ON THIS.

I WANTED TO EXPLAIN. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VERY GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD? LET'S VOTE.

[4. Staff Report on Development of Tortuga Park.]

CONGRATULATIONS [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO HEAR NOW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, RYAN KANE, YOUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. I'M HERE TO PEN FROM THE ON THE TORTUGA PARK AS REQUESTED BY THE BOARD.

WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS TODAY AND ULTIMATELY SEEK BOARD DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT STEP FOR THIS SITE.

JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND OF THE SITE AS MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR THAT THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU HERE.

FISCAL YEAR 2022, A APPROVED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN MARCH 2023 AND PUT ON FACE AND ASKED TO EVALUATE AND BRING BACK FINDINGS.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DID OPERATE A SECOND PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THAT PUBLIC MEET HAD 20 PARTICIPANTS OF WHICH 17 SPOKE OUT AGAINST AND THREE FOR THE PROJECT.

ADDITIONALLY, PARKS AND RECREATION DID DO A COMMUNITY SURVEY. WE HAD 2300 RESPONDENTS TO THAT SURVEY. OF WHICH 74% FEEL THERE IS NOT ENOUGH BEACH PARKING COUNTYWIDE. AND OF AMENITIES REQUIRED -- REQUESTED AT BEACH PARKS, 78% WAS IN FAVOR OF REST ROOMS. COUPLE OF COUNTY POLICIES THAT ARE RELATIVE TO THIS PROCESS TODAY. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES THAT THE COUNTY SHALL NOT VACATE OR RELOCATE ACCESS POINTS TO THE BEACH WITHOUT REQUIRING THE DEDICATION OF EQUAL OR GREATER ACCESS POINTS. ADDITIONALLY, THE HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN DOES CALL FOR AT LEAST ONE EXISTING AND OR NEW PUBLIC BEACH AND WATERWAY ACCESSWAYS TO BE INCLUDED PER YEAR BEGINNING WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS PLAN.

TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE FROM THE STAFF THE THREE OPTIONS YOU ARE NOT LIMITED TO THESE THREE OPTIONS.

FOUR IN NOT LIMITED. AND HAVE BOARD DISCUSSION BUT WHAT THE STAFF HAD PULLED TOGETHER FOR THE THREE OPTIONS ARE WHICH RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PARCEL, TABLE THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, TO SELL THE PROPERTY -- OPTION TWO, SELL THE PROPERTY AND PURSUE THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER BEACH ACCESS POINT APPEAR AND OPTION 3, CONSTRUCT THE PARK AS DESIGNED OR MODIFICATIONS TO DOWNTOWN HE SIGN.

OPTION ONE, TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PARCEL BUT TO TABLE THE

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AND IT DOES PROVIDE THE POTENTIAL FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT PROJECTS WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.

OPTION TWO, IS TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND PURSUE THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER BEACH ACCESS POINT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SELLING THE PARCEL, FUNDS WILL HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED FOR ANOTHER EQUAL BEACH ACCESS POINT TO BE DETERMINED AT A FUTURE DATE.

OPTION THREE, TO CONSTRUCT THE PARK AS DESIGNED OR WITH MODIFICATIONS. THIS WOULD BE AS DESIGNED BASED ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 CIP PROJECT.

MODIFICATIONS OF THE DESIGN CAN BE BASED ON THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATIONS. CHALLENGES IN THE AREA.

THIS AREA UTILIZES THE BEACH DRIVING FOR AN ACCESS POINT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN THAT BEACH DRIVING IS NOT ACCESSIBLE, IT IS CHALLENGING TO GET RESIDENTS TO THE BEACH. THIS PAST LABOR DAY WEEKEND, HIGH TIDES LIMITED THE BEACH DRIVING AND LIMITED ACCESS TO THE BEACH BECAUSE DRIVING WAS NOT OPENED UP UNTIL A LATER TIME IN THE AFTERNOON UNTIL THE TIDE WENT DOWN.

AND ALSO, ADDITIONALLY FOLLOWING TROPICAL STORM NICOLE, THE BEACH DRIVING FROM ROUTE 206 TO MAN TAN SUNGLASSES WAS CLOSED AND LIMITED FOR ONE MONTH WHILE -- MANTANZAS.

THAT IS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

AND WE WILL BE SEEKING BOARD DIRECTION AT THIS POINT AND OPEN

TO ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KANE AT THIS TIME? LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT MADAM

VICE-CHAIR. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JOHN WARMINGTON. TEN-YEAR FULL-TIME RESIDENT 7180 A1A SOUTH. AN OWNER FOR 21 YEARS.

I HAVE BEEN COMING TO CRESCENT BEACH.

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND OPTION 2 FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE REASONS: ONE, THE PLAN FOR YOU TOO DPA GA PARKING LOT ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. NO TURN IN AND TURN OUT LANES CONSISTENT WITH 206. THE POSTED SPIED LIMIT IS 25, BUT THEY CLEARLY ARE IN EXCESS AND ENFORCEMENT IS MINIMAL.

PASS SOMETHING PERMITTED ON THE WHOLE STRETCH OF ROAD.

THE SMALL AREA NORTH AND SOUTH OF TORTUGA ENTRANCE WILL BE POSTED BY THE COUNTY AS NO PARKING BUT ONLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF A1A. THE STATE REGULATED ROADSIDE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE FOR CAR PARKING.

THE STATE ALSO HAS NO PLANS FOR PEDESTRIAN -- A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY FROM THE SIDEWALK OF THE WEST SIDE OF A1A.

SOMETHING SIMILAR IS ALREADY AT COVERAGE ROAD AND NEWLY INSTALLED ONE AT MANTANZAS INLET.

PARKING ON A NARROW SHOULDER ON A STATE REGULATED ROADWAY WILL BE PROBLEM MATIC AT COVETS ROAD AND MANTAZAS.

PEOPLE AND PETS WILL BE WALKING ON A PASSING ZONE.

THIS IS RECIPE FOR TRAGEDY. MY SECOND POINT, THIS IS NOT THE BEST USE OF THE LAND. SELLING THE PROPERTY FOR RESIDENTIAL USE WILL PROVIDE TWO WINDFALLS FOR COUNTY TAXPAYERS.

FIRST, A GIANT WINDFALL IN INEQUITY.

LAND WAS BROUGHT IN 2016 AND A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL GENERATE A TAX CONTRIBUTION ANNUALLY THIRD, INACCURATE REVIEW THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR MORE SAFELY AND BETTER ECONOMICS AND EXCEED THE 22 SPACES OF TORTUGA SITE ENVISIONS. FOR INSTANCE, AT THE CUBAGE ROAD AT CRESCENT BEACH PARK, MULTIPLE POTENTIAL PARKING SPACE AS AVAILABLE WITH THE COUNTY ACQUIRED SOUTH BEACH GRILL RESTAURANT AND NOW CONDEMNED SHERIFF SUBSTATION.

IF IT IS BEING RAISED -- IN ADDITION THE PARKING BEACH DESIGN WITH THE NEW SQUARE FOOTAGE AND OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NO LONGER USE ALSO ADD MANY, MANY, MANY MORE SITES.

THERE IS A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND FOR SALE ON THE WEST SIDE OF A1A SOUTH OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOT.

ALSO ALREADY A SIDEWALK TO IT THE EXISTING AUTOMATED

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STRETCH OF THE TORTUGA ACCESS. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU,

SIR. >> SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT CAN

BENEFIT FROM THE BEACH TRAFFIC. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU,

SIR SIR. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: GOOD

MORNING. >> IF GOOD MORNING, CARROLL O'NEILL. 7150 A 1A SOUTH BY IS DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

I WANT TO DO KIND OF A HIGH-LEVEL REITERATION OF CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. AND SO THESE ARE PERSONAL AND PERTAIN TO MY EQUITY PROPERTY THAT I DO OWN AT THAT LOCATION.

JUST AS THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME STATED THE ISSUE WITH THE PARKING ON A 1A. SINCE ONLY 22 SPACES IN THAT PARKING LOT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO PARK ON A1A TO GET TO THE BEACH. THE SAFETY CONCERNS HE TALKED ABOUT AND I WON'T GO OVER THOSE AGAIN.

BUT ONE OF THE PERSONAL CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL ATTEMPT TO TRY TO PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT.

AND WE -- SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE CONTRACTED WITH A TOWING COMPANY. SO THEY WILL BE TOWED IF THEY DO NOT HAVE PROPER PARKING PERMITS. AND I AM SURE THAT IS GOING TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE MAD. SO -- BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE FACE ON A -- ON A BASIS NOW. AND I GUESS I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SECURE GATE. WE DON'T HAVE A SECURED WALL AROUND IT. AND SO FROM A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE. THERE WILL BE ATTEMPTS TO USE OUR POOL AND FACILITIES AND OUR WALKOVER.

SO THE SECURITY CONCERNS AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE OBVIOUS.

AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY RESIDENTS WHICH YOU PROBABLY ARE PUTTING ME IN THAT SAME CATEGORY, BUT I DO -- I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THEM AND THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ON OUR PROPERTY. AND THE NEXT ISSUE I HAVE REALLY IS MORE OF A QUESTION AND ABOUT THE EROSION ON THAT PROPERTY.

WE ARE BUILDING -- AT TRADEWINDS, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A NEW SEAWALL TO SHORE UP OUR PROPERTY ON THE BEACH. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE TO SECURE THAT WALL.

AND THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE HERE.

YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE A CONCERN FOR POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT USAGE.

IT HAS REST ROOMS AND SOME EWE ASSOCIATED WITH IT PERSONS MAY BE A I TEMPTED TO USE IT FOR OVERNIGHT PARKING FOR THEIR USAGE. SECURITY ISSUES.

THE MORE I'M WHO ARE THERE. DON'T HAVE TO REITERATE THAT AGAIN. THOSE ARE MY FEW CONCERNS HERE

AND I APPRECIATE YOU. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU,

MA'AM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: GOOD MORNING.

>> CAROL GILLIS. I WOULD REITERATE MOST OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH PERSONAL SAFETY, TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ACTIVITY OF THAT STRETCH OF LAND.

I GREW UP IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I KNOW THE APPEAL OF THE BEACHES. I APPRECIATE THE PARKING CHALLENGES. I SPENT MANY HOURS ON THE BEACH AS A YOUTH AND AT MY AGE, I HAVE THE SKIN CANCER TO PROVE IT.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE POINTS ALREADY MADE, I THINK -- WELL, I GUESS IT IS REITERATING THE OTHER POINT, ENCROACHMENT OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA AS WELL. WHICH KIND OF REITERATES THE PERSONAL AND TRAFFIC SAFETY. THERE WERE IMAGES SHOWN WITH LACK OF BEACH DRIVING AND TEMPORARILY OR OCCASIONALLY DO OCCUR. WHEN THE TIMES ARE OPEN AND WHEN THE BEACHES ARE DRIVABLE, ANY AMENITIES PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON THAT SENSITIVE STRETCH OF LAND. SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER.

HAVING GROWN UP IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

THE POINT OF NUMBER THREE, ANY MONEY SAVED ON THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL OF THAT PROPERTY I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT TO THE ST.

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JOHNS FORTMOSE PROJECT. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: WELCOME.

>> JUAN ACRON. I LIVE NEXT TO THE TORTUGA PARKS A 1A SOUTH. A LOT OF -- SPOKE TO YOU ALREADY. A LOT OF FOLKS HAD THE SAME CONCERN. I HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD CHILD SO SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS ARE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I GO TOWARD, BUT IF WE COULD PULL UP THE SLIDE WHERE WE HAVE CHALLENGES AND SHOWS THESE STRETCHES OF THE BEACH.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE NARROWEST PART OF THE ENTIRE ISLAND.

AND THAT IS KIND OF, AGAIN, WE DO UNDERSTAND THERE SHOULD BE MORE BEACH ACCESS, BUT JUST 23409 THE RIGHT LOCATION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE THERE, THE REGULAR TIDE COMING IN AND NO BEACH TO BE ABLE TO USE BECAUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT POST RIGHT THERE, THAT IS ACTUALLY BEACH -- BEACH DUNE RENOURISHMENT. NOT ACCESS TO USE THE BEACH.

AND SO -- I SHOWED -- I THINK ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS A PHOTO FROM THIS PAST WEEKEND. THAT WATER ACTUALLY WENT ALL THE WY TO THE SAND. EVEN IF IT WAS ACCESS.

GOING UNDERNEATH WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE ACCESS.

MOST OF THE TIME NOT REALLY A LOT OF SPACE TO USE THE BEACH AND THAT IS KIND OF MY CONCERN AS WELL BECAUSE THAT MONEY WILL BE USED TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LOT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE BEACH ACCESS TO USE.

NOT JUST PUTTING SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, GINGER BOARDMAN. 7780 A 1A SOUTH WIND JAMMER.

TWO PROPERTIES DOWN FROM WHERE -- WHERE THIS PROPOSED ACCESSWAY IS AND IF I COULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE PULL UP THE SLIDE WITH THE SURVEY INFORMATION ON IT. I ANSWERED THIS SURVEY.

I WANT TO YOU NOTICE THAT THERE IS LIMITED OPTIONS.

FOR INSTANCE, AMENITIES DESIRED. THERE IS NOT -- NONE AS AN OPTION. BEACH VISITING HABITS.

I VISIT THE BEACH AND I HAVE A PROPERTY ON THE BEACH.

MAYBE THERE IS SOME -- AND THEN BEACH ACCESS.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PUBLIC BEACH PARKING.

NOT GOING TO CREATE MORE BEACH PARKING.

22 PARKING SPOTS THAT IS NOT A LOT OF PARKING THIS PROPERTY IS TWO MILES SOUTH OF THE 206 ROAD TWO MILES GO BACK TO THE SLIDE SHOWING THE BEACH ACCESS. CHALLENGES ARE FINE.

>> ASSUME THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING ALONG THE BEACH HERE BECAUSE WE ARE TWO MILES SOUTH. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING THROUGH. THEY DON'T STOP FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS AND THERE IS NOT A LOT OF DRIVING TRAFFIC.

BUT IN YOUR COMMENT, YOU MADE COMMENT THAT A POSSIBILITY WOULD BE FOR THIS TO BE ANOTHER VEHICLE -- VEHICLE ASSESS I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IS WHAT I HEARD AS ANOTHER OPTION, BECAUSE IF THAT IS THE CASE HAVING THIS AS A BEACH ACCESS FOR PARTICULAR TRAFFIC WILL BE A NIGHTMARE FOR SAFETY BECAUSE HOW IT IS SLOPED AND WE HAVE MILES TO THE NORTH.

AND, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MR. WHARTON'S ACCIDENTS ON THE AGENDA TODAY TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY OF SOUTH BEACH GRILL.

REMOVING THAT IS GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER PARKING SPACES AND THE SHER SHERIFFS TO ADD MORE PARKING TO AN ALREADY EXISTING LOT AS WELL OUR NARROW AREA SO I THANK YOU

FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WELCOME. >> ROY CAMPBELL.

I LIVE AT 7717 SOUTH. MYARD IS PROBABLY 75 FEET FROM

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AND UNLIKE MY NEIGHBORS, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON A BEHALF OF THE PROJECT. I GREW UP IN PALATKA.

I HAD ACCESS ALL MY LIFE. I AM A BEACH PERSON AND THE REASON I WORKED HARD TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEACH.

I THINK THERE IS VERY LIMITED A, SES TO THE BEACH, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE. I KNOW THAT MY NEIGHBORS ARE LOBBIED HEAVY I HAVE BEEN TO THE OTHER MEETINGS .NARROW PIECE OF PEACH. THEY WERE HERE THAT FOR THE LAST MEETING, A MAN THERE FROM ARMY CORP THAT SAID WE WILL BE ENTITLED TO GET FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

A GOOD CHANCE TO GET FUNDS FROM THE FALL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE SAND TO A QUARTER MILE OF THE BEACH TO WHERE IT IS NARROW FOR BEACH PARKING. AND A WIN, WIN SITUATION OF WORRIED OF 50E9 MOTION OF THE BEACH YES TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON A1A. WHERER IN NOT UNDER COUNTY CONTROL THE CLOSEST PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING HERE IS DOWN IN SPYGLASS.

I GO DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME 20 OR 30 DIFFERENT PARKING PLACE AS THAT THE POINT AND NEVER NOTICE THE PROBLEMS AND THE PARKING PROBLEMS AT THIS PARTICULAR PLACE LIKE I HAVE AT MATANZAS INLET. YES TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND ALL DEPENDS ON THE COUNTY MONITORS IT AND PUTS THE SIGNS UP AND REGULATES THE PROPERTY SO I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE EVERY YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE ACCESS. I DON'T MIND THEM COMING ACROSS FROM MY PROPERTY. THE FAMILIES THAT CAN'T AFFORD OR CAN'T FIND PARKING IN OTHER PLACES.

IT IS ONLY 127 OR 18 PARKING PLACES NOT A GIANT TRAFFIC PROBLEM HAPPENING THAT IS REGULATED.

WHEN YOU SEE THE LITTLE KIDS COME OUT OF THE FAMILY VANS WITH ALL THEIR GEAR SCREAMING AND LAUGHING, ALL MY CONCERNS FALE IN COMPARISON TO THE HAPPINESS THAT WILL GIVE TO THE FAMILIES THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEACH RIGHT NOW.

I AM ALL FOR IT. THANK YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SIR.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. JAMES WHITEHOUSE, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A NUMBER OF AT ADJACENT RESIDENTS IN OUR AREA AS WELL, WITH THE TRADEWINDS CONDO IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT IN THIS PICTURE AERIAL. THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS THE TRADEWINDS CONGO AND BUILDINGS ARE RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.

YOU HEARD THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND APPRECIATE WRITE YOU MEETING WITH ME AND MEETING WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE TRADEWINDS BOARD TO DISCUSS THIS. THEIR CONCERNS ARE STILL THE SAME THE SAFETY AS YOU SEE. NARROW AREA ONE OF NARROWEST AREAS IN ANASTASIA ISLAND BE AND DANGEROUS NOT ONLY FOR TRAFFIC BUT FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AS WELL.

NUMBER TWO, THEIR CONCERNS ARE MOSTLY BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT ATTAINED FOR THIS BEACH PARKING.

THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY SINCE THE 1920S.

AND I THINK IT WAS GIVEN TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

IT WAS NOT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BUT THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR AND THIS WAS TRADED WITH THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.

MAYBE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO OR SO.

BUT IN ANY CASE AS YOU SEE FROM THE AERIAL ON THE SCREEN, THIS WAS AN AREA OF RESIDENCES AND LIKE I SAID, A NARROW AREA OF ANASTASIA ISLAND. CONCERNS ARE MANY.

AND I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE I -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THE NEIGHBORS APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO THEM AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY 'POSE OFF BEACH PARKING.

PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO GO TO OUR BEACH AND ENJOY THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AS ADVOCATED WITH THE DPREZ PLAN.

A SITUATION WE ARE TRYING TO PUT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE AND THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SPOT. OTHER OPTIONS AS YOU SAW FROM THE COUNTY STAFF REPORT AND ACT ACTIONS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SOUTH BEACH PARKING AND,

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, JAMES. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, 7750 A1A.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY OTHER THAN WHAT IS SAID.

RISK VERSUS BENEFIT. DO THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE RISK. THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS OF ADDING 22 EXTRA SPOTS, BUT DOES THAT OUTWEIGH THE RISK OF THIS LOC LOCATION? WE HAVE BEEN LIVING -- WE HAVE OWNED AT TRADEWINDS SINCE 1974.

I HAVE SEEN THE TRAFFIC. I HAVE SEEN THE CARS RACING DOWN THE STREET. OUR SPEED LIMIT IS 55.

AND IT IS A PASSING LANE. SO WE SEE CARS PASSING ALL THE TIME. OBVIOUSLY AT SPEEDS GREATER THAN 55. I HAVE 11.

AND GREAT TURNS AS THEY ARE IN A1A.

TRADEWINDS. HAVEN'T BEEN MENTIONED BUT WE OWN THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AND ACCESS TO THE INTRAANACOSTIAAL AS WELL AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY.

WE ARE CROSSING THE STREET. AND WE HAVE A SIGN ON OUR SIDE THAT IS -- ADVISES FOLKS TO LOOK BOTH WAYS BECAUSE THERE ARE -- TYPICALLY WE ONLY LOOK TO ONE SIDE BUT CARS THAT MIGHT BE PASSING HEADED SOUTH. AND POSE A DANGER.

SO IT IS, BY THE TIME BY THE TIME WE APPROACH FRAYEDWINDS, THEY ARE GOING FASTER THAN 25 MILES PER HOUR.

AT CRESCENT BEACH PARK, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 40, AND THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK. WE HAVE A MATANZAS CROSSWALK.

THE SPEED LIMIT IS 45. THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN, AND WE NEED TO JUST CONSIDER RISK VERSUS BENEFIT RATIO.

AND SEE WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT. IT JUST TAKES ONE ACCIDENT.

WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHICH SIDE OF THE COIN YOU ARE ON. A RISK FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SIR. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO NEED GAME PARKING.

DEFINITELY A REAL NEED FOR THAT. I AM NOT SURE THAT THIS PARCEL IS COMPATIBLE. IT IS VERY NARROW.

I HAVE TWO KIDS. WE WENT TO THE BEACH A LOT IN SU SUMMERS TREMENDOUS NARROW.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE REPORT AND THAT PARKING -- YOU KNOW THE EXISTING PARKING, WE CAN KIND OF EXPAND ON THAT. AND MAYBE REMOVE THAT RESTAURANT AND GET MORE SPOTS. YOU GO I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED BEACH PARKING AND WE SHOULD, THE STAFF.

WE SHOULD TASK THEM WITH FINDING TAMPA I DON'T FEEL THIS IS THE BEST SPOT FOR IT AND AGAIN I MET WITH THOSE RESIDENTS AND I SHARED THEIR CONCERNS. SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF OPTION ONE, JUST HANGING ON TO IT. TABLING THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR OPTION TWO SELLING THE PROPERTY AND TRYING TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER DE DEAN. I WOULD SUPPORT OPTION TWO AND THE REASON IS 42 MILES OF PUBLIC BEACHES IN THIS COUNTY AND SEVERAL PROJECTS THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA PROJECT THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT ALL OF YOU KNOW IF SUCCESSFUL IT WILL BECOME OUR THIRD FEDERAL PROJECT AND THERE WILL BE -- WHAT IS MISSING IS MORE PUBLIC ACCESS.

THE STAFF IS WORKING VERY HARD RIGHT NOW TO FIND MORE PUBLIC ACCESS IN THE SOUTH THAT WILL GREATLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL FUNDS AVAILABLE AND HAVE TO THIRD PROJECT.

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OPTION TWO. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: DO WE NEED THE ACCESS IN A HURRICANE SITUATION JUST TO GET IN THERE -- I MEAN, IF WHICH WERE JUST TO DO OPTION ONE AND HANG ON TO IT.

ARE WE EVER GOING TO NEED TO GET IN THERE? THAT IS MY ONLY QUESTION IF I WILL ASK JOEL GEE TO SPEAK BEYOND MY DEPARTMENT. DIDN'T USE IT IN THE PAST.

AND COUNTYWIDE, I THINK THE APARTMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, ANY ACCESS WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR GETTING ON THE BEACH BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT IF WE HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE NORTH OR THROUGH MANTANZAS.

WE CAN GET ON THE BEACH AND LAST TIME.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: SORRY, YOU SHALL WALKING BACK TO YOUR SEAT. DO YOU HAVE PERMITTING TO USE THAT ACCESS POINT? SO THE BOARD -- IF YOU CAN RECALL I ASKED TO USE IT FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING ON DOWN THERE. WE GOT A PERMIT FORMANTANZAS RAMP. AND IN THE PROCESS.

WE ARE I WOULD SAY A WEEK OR TWO FROM GETTING A PERMIT TO ALLOW US TO USE THE LOT FOR ACCESS FOR THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT PROJECT.

THE IDEA IS TO USE IT AS A VEHICLE ACCESS AND RESTORE IT RIGHT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS WHEN WE USED IT.

SOME SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS, YES, WE ARE CLOSE TO HAVE IT

PERMIT. >> MR. KANE, I GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLANNING THAT HAS GONE INTO IDENTIFYING AND BEACH PARKING AND ACCESS. WITH YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME

AGAIN? >> SURE, ON THE IDENTIFICATION, THE PARCEL NEXT DOOR HAS BEEN COUNTY OWNED SINCE 1923.

IT WAS GIVEN IN THE DOCUMENTATION DOES SAY BEACH BACK SES WITHIN THAT. THE LAND SWAP HAPPENED IN 2016 IN WHICH THE STAFF REPORTS SAID IT WOULD BE A BETTER SITE, MORE SUITABLE FOR BEACH ACCESS. AND THEN -- THE -- WE DID -- WE DID HAVE FISCAL YEAR 2 APPROVAL FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS AND WE SPENT FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PARCEL $138,000

FOR DIVINE OF THAT SITE. >> HOW FAR FROM THAT LOCATION IS THE SOUTH BEACH GRILL PARKING LOT.

>> APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES NRTH.

>> YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FIVE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS FOR A REASON WE DON'T THINK THE SAME. BUT I LIVED ON THE WEST SIDE AN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GO OUT TO THE BEACH WITH A 30 OR 40-MINUTE DRIVE AND FINDING FULL PARKING LOT AFTER FULL PARKING LOT AFTER FULL PARKING LOT AND THE STRETCHES OF 911 A1A THAT I DRIVE ON A REGULAR BASIS HAVE CARS THAT ARE TAKEN IT UPON THEMSELVES TO PARK ON THE SHOULDER WHICH IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION THAT PEOPLE DON'T JUST TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. WE ARE AN INDUSTRIOUS PEOPLE AND WILL NOT BE TURNED AWAY JUST BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING SPOT. WE WILL CREATE A PARKING SPOT HOW DANGEROUS THIS MIGHT BE. THIS SEEMS NECESSARY AND I AM IN FAVOR OF OPTION THREE. THE ONLY COMMISSIONER IN FAVOR OF OPTION THREE. NOT BECAUSE IT IS A PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A NECESSARY SOLUTION FOR THE KIND OF COUNTY THAT WE ARE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHERE I STAND. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WILL GO AHEAD AN OFFER A MOTION UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD. I WILL OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION 2 TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND PURSUE THE PURCHAE OF

ANOTHER BEACH ACCESS POINT. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION AND A SECOND AS A FURTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED PARCELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE THAT ARE VIABLE OPTIONS M

MR. KANE. >> THE REAL ESTATE TEAM HAS SHARED WITH US VACANT PARCELS AND THEY ARE NOT FOR SALE.

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>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VACANT PARCELS BUT NOT FOR SALE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A PROPER SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

SO THAT MOTION IS DENIED 3-2. DO WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION? SORRY, COMMISSIONER, LET ME TRY TO GET OUT OF THIS SCREEN. TYLER, WILL YOU MIND HELPING US OUT. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: OPTION ONE TO OBTAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE PARCEL BUT TABLE DEVELOPMENT PL

[5. Consider an appointment to the Ponte Vedra Zoning & Adjustment Board.]

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A PROPER MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON OPTION ONE.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 3-2.

CONGRATULATIONS. >>> ALL RIGHT, THAT WILL TAKE US INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. MRS. SPENCER.

GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME GOOD MORNING.

I'M HERE TODAY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 AND 6 AGENDA NUMBER 5 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT TO THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD. CURRENTLY TWO VACANCIES ON THIS BOARD BUT ONE QUALIFIED APPLICATION CAME IN.

AND THAT WAS FOR MEGAN MCKINLEY. FOR YOUR REVIEW, HER APPLICATION AND RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM THE PLANNING -- PONTE VEDRA ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I

AM ON STANDBY. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS SPENCER. MADAM VICE-CHAIR.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA NUMBER 5. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: DO WE HAVE A MOT MOTION? I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. SORRY.

THE MOTION TO REAPPOINT MEGAN MCKIN HELY FOR THE PONTE VEDRA

[6. Consider appointments to the Industrial Development Authority.]

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 5-0. >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY DUE TO THE EXPIRED TERMS. VACANCY AD WAS PLACED FOR 30 DAYS AND SEE IT IN REVIEW. A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE IDA AND SEVEN APPLICATIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM

ON STAND-BY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, JOANNE.

AND I KIND OF ASKED YOU ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE SERVING ON OTHER BOARDS.

LIKE BRIAN CLARK ON FHA WHICH I AM A LIAISON.

AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AHAC. IF THEY GETTA POINTED TO THIS BOARD, ARE THEY GIVEN AN OPTION TO RESIGN OR CHOOSE WHICH ONE THEY WANT TO BE ON OR HOW DOES THAT WORK AGAIN?

>> I WILL REFER THAT QUESTION TO OCA BECAUSE IT WILL BE A DUAL ROLE, BUT I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. BUT I AM SURE OCA CAN.

>> WE HAVE -- THERE ARE BOTH STATE LAW AND A COUNTY POLICY ON DUAL OFFICE HOLDING. ANY APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO APPLY WITH THAT. OUR POLICY IS STRICTER.

I BELIEVE IT WILL BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PERSON, HOW THEY WANT TO PROCEED. OUR CONCERN WE DON'T VIOLATE COUNTY POLICY OR COUNTY LAW. IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPOINT SOMEONE, I WOULD ARGUE IT IS IN THEIR DISCRETION WHICH ACTION TO TAKE TO MAKE SURE IT COMPLIES WITH THE COUNTY POLICY.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS TIME PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. SEEING NONE, CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I AM THE BOARD LIAISON TO THE IDA. I MOVE TO REAPPOINT MELISSA CHURCHWELL FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM SET TO EXPIRE OCTOBER 23.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

I AM GOING TO MOVE TO APPROACH ORVILLE DUTHIG.

[25. Motion to adopt Resolution 2023-________, approving the terms and conditions of FDEP Agreement 23SJ4 for the funding cost share of the eligible expenses relating to FEMA Category B Emergency Beach Berm projects and the FEMA Category G Repair of the South Ponte Vedra Dune Project relating to Hurricanes Ian and Nicole, and authorizing the County Administrator, or designee, to execute the Agreement, along with any supplemental documentation, on behalf of the County; and to recognize and appropriate FDEP Agreement 23SJ4 in an amount up to $9,517,866 within the Fiscal Year 2024 Budget. For more information, contact Damon Douglas, Coastal Manager at 904 209-0794]

THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU, MISS SPENCER.

NOW WE ARE GOING TO HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, WHICH WAS FORMERLY CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER 5, DR. MACA.

>> GOOD MORNING, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

I CAN GO THROUGH KIND OF THE HISTORY OF THIS GRANT OR STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. UP TO THE BOARD.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU PULLED THE ITEM.

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>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY FOR TWO VIDEOS CONSENSUS FOR THE $9.5 MILLION. THIS IS THE SAME.

>> I THINK THIS IS A WAY -- >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE 9 MILLION. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN HAVE

CONSENSUS TO LOOK INTO THAT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT IT AS A FUNDING SOURCE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: WE WILL DO IT.

WHY WAS IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? WELL, WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK IN THE HISTORY A LITTLE BIT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR WITH DEKINGP TO HAVE FUNDING FOR NONFEDERAL COST SHARE FOR FEMA PROJECTS.

THE AGENDA WAS ACTUALLY PLACED INTO THE AGENDA MANAGER IN JULY.

37 AND THEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE SEPTEMBER BOARD MEETING, BUT IT WAS MOVED TO OCTOBER BECAUSE THE O&B WANTED TO MAKE IT MORE CLEANER TO PUT IT ON TO THIS BOARD MEET.

THE -- IT WASN'T -- IT WASN'T PULLED BECAUSE WE ARE STILL PURSUING THE -- I BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THE BOARD LAST MEETING WITH AS TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN SEEK DEP'S CHANGE IN THEIR LANGUAGE OF THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT TO ALLOW US TO -- FLEXIBILITY TO USE THESE LEFTOVER FUNDS FOR OTHER PROJECTS. A AND; HOWEVER, LEAVING IT ON THE CONSENT OR THE BOARD ITEM FOR WHAT IS OUT THERE IS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEEK $1.2, $1.3 MILLION IN REIMBURSEMENT. AND WE CAN GET THAT MONEY BACK NOW. AND WORK ON THE AMENDMENT

FOR DEP TO ALLOW FOR THE FUTURE. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: A LOT OF WORDS, BUT YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

WHY IS THIS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WHEN I JUST PLAYED THE VIDEO THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION AND A AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT THE $9.5 MILLION FOR NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TAXING DISTRICT.

>> I GUESS MY -- MY TAKEAWAY FROM THE BOARD CONSENSUS THE LAST TIME WHEN IT CAME BACK UP WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE ARE TRYING TO SEEK THE AMENDMENT TO DEP TO GET THIS CONTRACT MOVED OR ALTERED TO PUT FORWARD. BUT NOT NECESSARILY STOP THE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR OTHER PROJECT AREAS.

>> ON TOP OF IT, IN THE AMENDMENT, YOU NEVER 1KD FOR PERMISSION FOR THE $875,000. IT WAS NEVER PRESENTED TO THE BOCC. IT WAS NEVER A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. WHEN THE OTHER TWO THE BUTLER BEACH AND -- MOTION A WAS 6/6/23.

THE TRUCK HAUL WAS ON 9/19-23. THE 8 75 WAS NEVER ASKED FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ON THAT. SO IF YOU ADD UP ALL THIS, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME THIS IS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM.

THIS IS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T DISCUSS THE $9.5 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH. IT SUBJECT IN FLORIDA.

IT IS IN THERE FOR THE CATB PROJECT.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I DON'T SEE NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH IN

THE IT IS NOT IN THE MOTION. >> CORRECT, IT IS NOT IN THE MOTION BUT THE WORK AGREEMENT WITH THE DEP.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I SPECIFICALLY ASKED -- I SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR THE AGENDA ITEM REGARDING PONTE VEDRA BEACH NORTH. CHAIRMAN, IS THAT NOT THE CASE? DID I NOT HAVE CONSENSUS WITH THIS?

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THE VIDEO I JUST WATCHED WE WOULD LOOK INTO

FUNDING FOR IT. >> THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE DOING. LOOKING INTO THE FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY T ALLOW US TO USE FUNDS FOR OTHER PROJECTS AFFECTED BY NICOLE.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NOT CLEAR.

SOMETHING WAS ADDED TO IT THAT WAS NOT BROUGHT UP AND NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH IS NOT UP. THIS WHOLE MOTION IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND NOT RAIN CORRECTLY AND ON TOP OF IT, A DISCUSSION FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO DO AT THIS POINT IF WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS MAN I DO.

DO I MAKE A MOTION AND HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THE $9.5 MILLION OR

DO WE -- >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: LET ME SEEK SOME CLARIFICATIONS. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

TAKING ACTION ON THIS 9.5 MILLION APPROPRIATED TO HELP FOLKS TO HAVE BEEN DAMAGED BY IAN AND NICOLE.

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THE PEOPLE NEED THE MONEY TO REPAIR THE HOMES OF THE

COMMUNITY. >> FOR THE TWO PROJECT AREAS WE ARE ACTIVELY PROTECTING. SOUTH PONTE VEDRA AND BUTLER BEACH AND SOUTH PONTE VEDRA VEDA.

>> BY ACCEPTING THE 9.5 TO HELP THE COMMUNITIES IN NEED, DOES THAT PROHIBIT US FROM FURTHER LOOK NOOK FUNDING SOURCES FOR NORTH PONTE VEDRA? NO, EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE DOING.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE CAN HELP THE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP IMMEDIATELY AND FUNDING FOR OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE

BEACH THAT NEED FUNDING. >> CORRECT.

EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE DOING WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN

NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: BUT SURE,

IT IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED -- >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YOU ARE NOT RECOGNIZED. ANOTHER COMMISSIONER TO SPEAK AND COMMISSIONER JO HE SELF WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU.

I WANT TO SEEK CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IF WE HAVE 9.5 MILLION, WE NEED THAT MONEY TO HELP FOLKS IN NEED.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT WE CAN'T WALK AND CHEW GUM.

WE CAN STILL PURSUE AND ASK DEP FOR FUNDING FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY. YES OR NO.

>> YES. IF I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE

CLEAR. >> 100% CLEAR.

THERE WILL BE REMAINDER FUNDS WITH THE $9 MILLION.

AND ASKING TO ALTER OR AMEND THEIR CONTRACT.

THE STANDARD CONTRACT WE GOT IN JULY, LIKE I SAID TO ALLOW US TO USE THE REMAINING FUNDING FOR THE OTHER PROJECT AREAS.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE ARE GOING TO GO TO OVER COMMISSIONER WHO IDEA TO SPEAK. MY THOUGHTS BEFORE WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S NOT PUT PEOPLE IN NEED OF DOLLARS FOR RECOVERY, LET'S NOT PUT THEM ON THE BACK BURNER.

LET'S MOVE THIS MONEY FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO PURSUE FUNDS TO HELP NORTH POONZ TOO. I THINK WE CAN DO BOTH THINGS STATEMENT. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I REPRESENT THE NORTH 35R9 AND CRESCENT BEACH AND THEY NEED HELP NOW.

I AM OKAY LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE CACHE IN ORDER PONTE VEDRA BEACH. BUT THESE FOLKS NEED THE

PROTECTION IN CRESCENT BEACH. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: CAN I PUT THAT UP THERE. CAN YOU PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE SO ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DESCRIBED IN THE MOTION ARE HERE. AND THERE ARE $7 MILLION LEFT AFTER THOSE ARE PAID FOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT THAT $ MILLION GOES TO THE NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH PROJECT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: TO HELP ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT -- THIS APPROVES IT. HAS EXTRA MONEY LEFT AND GOES TO NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH. DON'T FORGET THERE IS PUBLIC

COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: SEEKING A SECOND FOR YOUR MOTION AND WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON ANY MOTION. JUST SEEKING A SECOND.

THAT MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

I STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON FORMALLY CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, WHICH IS NOW REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.

OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS POINT THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.

GOOD MORNING. >> HI, GOOD MORNING, BETH ANGELO. I AM HAPPY TO BE IN A POSITION WE ARE GOING TO GET RENOURISHMENT IN NORTH PONTE VEDRA. A LONG TIME.

SIX YEARS. WE ARE VERY, VERY EXCITED.

SPECIFICALLY OF THE $9.5 MILLION IAN AND NICOLE FDEP GRANT.

WE SPOKE TO SENATOR HUDSON JUST RECENTLY, AND HE HAS NEVER.

HE WORKED SO HARD FOR OUR BEACH I THANK HIM SO MUCH BECAUSE OF HIM AND YOU GUY GUYS THAT WE AR THIS POSITION THAT I AM SO HAPPY THAT WE WILL HAVE A BEACH REFEWER I SHALLMENT.

HE WORKED TIRELESS LY AND HE FULLY SAID THAT MONEY IS MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR IT. AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU USE IT AND HE CONFIRMED THE TOTAL GREEN LIGHT.

HE SPOKE TO SOMEONE AT FDEP AND IT IS USABLE AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT UP HERE. AND THE -- THE ATTACHMENT FOR THE WORK PLAN, THE DEPARTMENT HAS DETERMINED THAT 100% OF THE NONFEDERAL PROJECT COSTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS COST SHARING.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A LIMITED TIME TO DO THIS.

IT IS TILL JULY OF THIS COMING UP YEAR TO MAKE THE JULY 1.

SO I AM JUST -- I AM JUST SO EXCITED THE PROJECT IS GOING TO GO FORWARD. WE THINK -- WE PROBABLY WON'T NEED $ MILLION BUT WILL NEED SOMETHING.

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FLAGLER IS USING THIS MONEY FOR NONFEMA PROJECTS.

IT WAS GIVEN TO US. WE HAVE OUR MARKERS ON HERE.

AND WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT GO BACK TO THE STATE WHEN THERE IS A NEED FOR IT. WE ARE SAYING I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SAID. LET'S PURSUE ALL OF IT.

WE PROBABLY WON'T NEED THAT MUCH BUT DON'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY THE MONEY THAT COMMISSIONER JOSEPH IS SAYING AND WHICH HAVE SPOKEN TO COMMISSIONER DEAN AS WELL AND HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TOO.

IF WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS ON POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, USING THIS MONEY SO IT DOESN'T GO TO WASTE.

IT IS VERY SPECIFICS COMMISSIONER HUDSON SAID.

IT ONLY FOR -- IT IS VERY SPECIFIC AND CONFIRMED IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE. THANK YOU.

ARNSZ ARNOLD THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? WELC WELCOME.

>> LAURIE MOFFITT, PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD, PONTE VEDRA.

IN CASE WE -- IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS AND IN CASE WE HIT A IMPASSE AND CAN'T AGREE OF PUTTING SOME OF THE FUNDS INTO $9.5 MILLION INTO PONTE VEDRA'S BEACH, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT FDEP HAS FUNDING RECOGNITIONS THAT ARE EASILY APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S CRITICALLY ERODED BEACHES WITH PUBLIC ACCESS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT NORTH PONTE VEDRA, WHICH IS UP HERE I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NORTH PONTE VEDRA'S CRITICALLY ERODED BEACHES ARE IN THE SOUTHERN SIX MILES. THIS AREA HERE CRITICALLY ERODED AND THE SOUTHERN SIX MILES THAT YOU ALL VOTED ON IS FROM R MARKER 16 TO 46. SO BASED ON FUNDING FROM FDEP.

BASED ON FLORIDA'S CRITICALLY ERODED BEACHES THAT HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS. THE SOUTHERN SIX MILES -- HERE WE GO. -- PROJECTS MUST BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. TO BE DESIGNATED AS THE DEPARTMENT AS CRITICALLY ERODED BEACHES.

THE SOUTHERN SIX MILES, A GOOD CHUNK OF THE COST WILL BE DEFRAYED THROUGH REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH DEP.

I AM GETTING IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT AND I KNOW OUR BEACH TEAM IS WELL AWARE OF THIS. THEY DO THIS AS MADDER OF COURSE IN THEIR SLEEP, BUT SOMETHING DOWN THE PIKE ONCE THE PROJECTS IS UP AND GOING AND WE -- WE START APPLYING FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENSES FOR THE SOUTHERN SIX MILES.

I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS IS THE FO FORM. THIS IS THE FORM WE USED FOR DESIGN AND PERMITTING COSTS FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WAS APPLIED FOR FOR R MARKER 16-46.

THE SOUTHERN SIX MILES. THE AREA CRITICALLY ERODED FROM THE BEACH ACCESS. WE DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH WHERE WE HAVE DIVISION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE THE TWO MSTUS. WE WANT IT TO BE A FAIR PROJECT.

THE MSTU FOR THE SOUTHERN SIX MILES MAY BE MORE DIMINIMUS THAN WE THINK AND SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL IN THE NORTHERN THREE MILES AS A RESULT. WE HOPE WE CAN GET RID OF ALL THIS DIVISION. GO AFTER THE REMAINING.

I THOUGHT IT WAS $7 MILLION OR WHATEVER FOR NORTH PONTE VEDRA AND BE DONE WITH IT. THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF -- YOU KNOW, WHERE WE COULD BE HEADED HERE.

THANK YOU. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: LAURIE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GIVING WHAT YOU PUT ON THE OVERHEAD TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF

THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YES, SIR,

PLEASE DO. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: MOVE TO

ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023. >> 385.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF FDEF AGREEMENT 23-SJ 4 FOR THE HE WILL I BELIEVE EXPENSES OF FEMA CATEGORY B, EMERGENCY BEACH PROJECTS AND FEMA CATEGORY G, RESPARE OF THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA DUNE PROJECT RELATING TO HURRICANES IAN AND NICOLE AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT WHICH LONG

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FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: CAN WE ADD TO IT THAT THE LEFTOVER MONEY GO TO THE NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH RENOURISHMENT?

YOU ARE THE BEACH GUY. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I WILL ANSWER THAT. AGAIN, I MIGHT HAVE TO CALL ON JOE GIAMOCA AGAIN. I HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE BEEN TRYING -- AND I WOULD SAY WITH SOME SUCCESS FOR SIX YEARS TO GET FUNDING FOR THE NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH PROJECT ONE-TIME PLACEMENT. WE ARE ALMOST THERE.

AND I THINK WE ARE THERE ACTUALLY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I SAID AT OUR SEPTEMBER 7 MEETING THAT WE WILL GIVE MONEY TO DEP IF THERE WAS MONEY AVAILABLE BUT NOT IN A POSITION TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING EAR MARKED FOR SOUTH PONTE VEDRA AS THE MOTION DICTATES.

I THINK THE REASON -- AND SINCE THAT SEPTEMBER 19 MEETING, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I DID SIT DOWN WITH JOE G AT LENGTH AS I SAID I WOULD TO TOO TO BETTER MYSELF AND UNDERSTAND THE INTRICACY OF FEMA BG WHATEVER. AND FINALLY ARRIVED YESTERDAY BASED ON HIS TUTORIAL HE GAVE ME THAT THESE FUNDS ARE STRICTLY LIMITED FOR FEMA PROJECTS. OUR LOCAL MATCH.

STATE MONEY COMING TO US FOR OUR LOCAL MATCH FOR ONLY FEMA PROJECTS AFTER THIS -- THIS BILL WAS PASSED AFTER IAN AND NICOLE.

TO PROVIDE LOCAL MATCH MONEY FOR FEMA PROJECTS.

NOW, JOE, IF I AM MISUNDERSTANDING THAT.

THAT IS THE REASON -- I AM TAKING THE POSITION I AM TAKING.

SO A CRITICAL POINT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

SO -- IS. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE CORRECT. THE GRANT WAS FOR THE NONFEDERAL SHARE OF FEMA PROJECTS. WE ARE WORKING WITH DEP TO LOOSEN THAT LANGUAGE BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, FEMA PROJECTS FOR THE NONFEDERAL CORN SHARE. 12.5% THAT THE COUNTY WOULD

NORMALLY PAY. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I THINKING THAT IS PROBABLY EQUALLY OR MORE GERMANE, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT HELPING THOSE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT NOW.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS FOR FEMA FUNDING AS PER THE HEAD OF OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT IS TELLING US.

I WILL -- I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR MY POSITION.

I AM TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY I ARRIVED AT THE POSITION I DID.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YES, SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I SAY ONE THING.

COMMISSIONER DEAN IS 1% RIGHT. THE FEMA NONFEDERAL SHARE IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR GRANT; HOWEVER, THE REMAINING BALANCE -- THIS IS WHAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT OF THE PROJECT AMOUNTS, WE HAD NUMBERS IN THREE WEEKS AFTER NICOLE.

AND SO THE AGREEMENT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE SENSE OF HOW YOU -- HOW YOU LOOK AT THE -- AT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE FEMA PROJECTS. SO WE WANTED TO THEN FIX OUR FEMA PROJECTS. GET THE COST SHARE REIMBURSED AND THE REMAINING BALANCE, GO AFTER PROJECTS THAT WERE AFFECTED BY IAN AND NICOLE. TWO PROJECT AREAS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT COSTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR GRANT THAT CAN BENEFIT FROM THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THESE FUNDS. NORTH PONTE VEDRA IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS. SOUTH PONTE VEDRA IN THE CAT G PROJECT AREA THAT THE BOARD HAS NOT HEARD FROM US FORMALLY AND I WILL COME BACK IN A MONTH OR TWO OPINION.

THE CAT G. WE TALKED OF FEMA HAVING AN ENGINEERED BEACH. IF THE PROJECT IS DESTROYED ROAR FEMA COMES IN AND REPAIRS THE BEACH.

REPAIR THE BEACH IN WHAT YOU LOST FROM SAND.

NOT FROM THE VISH QUAL SAND BUT THE NEAR SHORE SYSTEM.

A HUGE DRY BEACH. A STORM COMES IN AND THE SAND MOVES INTO THE SYSTEM. YOU COULD HAVE LOST WHAT YOU VISUALLY SEE IS AND QUALIFIED FOR WHAT IS REMAINING.

I GIVE YOU THIS KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HANG. 750,000 CUBIC YARDS.

STORM COMES IN. MOVES A LOT OF IT IN THE NEAR SHORE SYSTEM. OF THE $750 THOUSAND IN CUBIC IG YARDS OF SAND THAT WERE PLACED THERE, ONLY $ 350,000 CUBIC

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COVER THE NONFEDEAL COST SHARE OF 12.5% OF $350000 CUBIC YARDS OF SAND. THE REMAINING SAND THAT WAS LOST IN IF THE NEAR SHORE SYSTEM, THE COUNTY, IF WE WANTED TO BRING BACK THE BEACH TO THAT FULL RENOURISHMENTS ON THE HOOK FOR THAT. THAT IS BETWEEN A $7 MILLION TO $9 MILLION DEFICIT THAT THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR RIGHT NOW.

THE THOUGHT THAT -- THAT STAFF -- THAT I WAS DIRECTED -- I AM DIRECTING MY STAFF TO DO FOR DEP.

WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER, TRY TO ALLOCATE THAT TO BOTH PONTE VEDRA AND THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA, SO WE CAN COVER THOSE COST ST.

MARY'S OAR EXTRA COSTS THAT ARE NOT FUNDED BY ANY OTHER SOURCE.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FULL PICTURE AS YOU GO FORWARD WITH

YOUR DISCUSSION. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU,

DOCTOR. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SENATOR HUDSON IS LIKE, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN TAXES. I AM A REPUBLICAN.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN TAXING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THE TAX THINGS GO AWAY AND I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO THE PEOPLE OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH THAT ACTUALLY PAY FOR PRETTY MUCH THREE QUARTERS OF THIS COUNTY. BUT I AM SORRY, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND CAN I ASK A WITNESS FOR ANY MORE

INFORMATION? >> I WOULD 100% AGREE WITH YOU BE THE TAXING ISSUE AND THE REMAINING BALANCE WE ARE TRYING TO SPLIT BETWEEN TWO AREAS THAT HAVE A DEFICIT THAT WE NEED TO

COVER. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: MAY I ASK

A WITNESS PLEASE. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: MR.

CHAIRMAN. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THIS IS

DISCUSSION. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: THIS ISN'T

A CROSS EXAMINATION. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: POINT OF ORDER. YOU INTERRUPTED ME, MR. MEGGETT.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I WAS STILL TALKING.

I SAW MY LIGHT ON. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: HOLD ON FOR A SECOND. I THINK WE ARE BEYOND PUBLIC COMMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT MISS MOFFITT IN A DOCUMENT ON THE BOARD. DISPUTE WHAT THE MONEY CAN BE USED FOR. THAT IS ESTABLISHED.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: POINT OF ORDER.

TO MR. MEGGETT. POINT OF ORDER.

I AM STILL TALKING. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YOU CAN TALK

BUT WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: POINT OF ORDER. CAN I ASK A WITNESS TO CLARIFY WHAT SENATOR HUDSON SAID. I HAVE A QUESTION.

I AM AKING. IF THAT IS NO.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD

-- >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I CAN'T ASK A WITNESS ANYTHING? UNLESS THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD

AGREES WITH YOU. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: ALL

RIGHT, THANK YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: BASED ON JOE G.'S COMMENTS, I THINK -- FOLLOW ME, I AM PREPARED TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION. AND BASICALLY MY AMENDMENT IS WHAT HE EXPLAINED AND THAT IS TO SAY, IF THERE ARE FUNDS, LEFTOVER FUNDS AVAILABLE, THAT WE SHOULD DIRECT STAFF TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR BOTH THE NORTH PONTE VEDRA PROJECT AND THE OTHER -- SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: THINK THAT ADDRESSES THE REQUEST FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS AND ALSO FROM SENATOR HUDSON.

I WANTED TO FIRST GIVE PRIORITY OF WHAT I THOUGHT THE LEGISLATION WAS FOR FEMA PROJECTS.

BUT CERTAINLY IF THERE IS LEFTOVER FUNDING WHICH HAS FULLY EXPLAINED -- I WOULD VOTE TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR THOSE TWO OTHER PROJECTS. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? WHO SECONDED THE MOTION IF I SECONDED.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR ROLE.

>> THE MAKER OF THE MOST. SECOND THE EMOTION.

HELP MME UNDERSTAND. >> WE ARE ALREADY DOING WHAT THE BOARD ASKED US TO DO WE ARE DOING THAT.

>> I FEEL LIKE MY OPINION IS MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING.

YOU ARE ALREADY PURSUING FROM DEP.

>> DOING THAT BEFORE BELIEVE THEY MAY QUALIFY.

>> CORRECT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONER ARNOLD SECONDED THE MO MOT MOTION.

>> DON'T TELL ME THAT I AM CRAZY BECAUSE THIS IS A -- PEOPLE FROM

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>> I DIDN'T SAY YOU ARE CRAZY. I SAID THIS GOT A LITTLE CRAZY.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I AGREE, BUT I AM TRYING TO REPRESENT MY CONSTITUENTS AND I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM THAT THEY DON'T BE TAXED IN THEIR DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MR. MEEGETT.

>> BECAUSE AN AMENDMENT. WE NEED TWO VOTES.

THE FIRST VOTE -- THE WHOLE BOARD HAS TO DECIDE WHETHER TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. NOT JUST THE MAKER OR THE SECOND. SO WE TECHNICALLY NEED TWO VOTES. THE FIRST VOTE WILL BE YES OR NO ON THE -- ON ALLOWING THE AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR.

IF THAT PASSES, THEN WE HAVE A SECOND VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL

MOTION AS AMENDED. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I MOVE TO

APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. >> YOU ALREADY MADE A MOTION TO AMEND YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS SECONDED.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE HAVE TO VOTE ON WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: ADD PONTE VEDRA TO IT FOR THE LEFTOVER.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED THAT.

WE ARE VOTING WHETHER TO ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT.

IF YOU WOULD CARE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION SHOULD IT PASS OR FAIL, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS MOTION.

TYLER, GIVE ME THE VOTING SCREEN.

THANK YOU, SIR. PLEASE VOTE WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.

SO THE BOARD PASSES 5-0 TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT TO THE

MOTION. >> NOW WE HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION

ON THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT MOTION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

WE HAVE TAXPAYERS WITH TAX DOLLARS FROM ALL 67 COUNTIES THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED $38.4 MILLION TO THE NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH. SO NOBODY -- I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I DON'T LIKE SPENDING A SINGLE TAX DOLLAR THAT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SPEND, BUT IT IS TAX DOLLARS THAT HAVE GOTTEN US TO THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE 38.4 MILLION FROM 67 COUNTIES AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SO IF WE DO AWAY WITH ALL TAX DOLLARS.

ANTI-TAX EVERYTHING, WE DON'T HAVE THE $38.4 MILLION TO EVEN GET TO THIS POINT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

IF WE ARE ANTI-TAX, THEN WE SHOULD NOT USE ANY OF THE DOLLARS. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THE POINT OF THIS $9.5 MILLION.

IT IS NOT TAX DOLLARS. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONERS, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE TAX DOLLARS COME FROM

THAT THE DEP? >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: YOU CAN GET TECHNICAL BUT NOT MATCHING OF THE 12.5 AND ALL THE OTHER SAND TRUCKING THINGS ARE A PART OF.

I AM JUST SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO MATCH WITH GENERAL FUNDS WITH THIS EXTRA MONEY FOR NORTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

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>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: VERY INTERESTING.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON IT MR. MEGGET. I WILL ASK THAT THE BOARD VOTES.

THAT PASSES 5-0. THAT WAS VERY SPIRITED .THAT WAS INTERESTING. WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COME AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM.

COMMENTS ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT INDIVIDUAL KILLINGS INNER AND NOT DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO ONE CAN ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH SLANDEROUS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR.

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFREEZING RAIN FROM ANY APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS.

I WILL ASK THAT ANY SPEAK THEIR PRESENTS AN OVERHEAD MATERIAL TO PRESENT IT TO THE CLERK OF COURT TO DO BE ENTER INTO PUBLIC RECORD. GOOD MORNING, ED SLAVIN.

>> ED SPLAVEN, ST. JOHNS COUNTY STILL HAS LAX INTERNAL CONTROLS AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY STILL LACKS RESPECTS FOR OUR RIGHTS TO ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS. AND IN 2022, THE PEOPLE OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY OVERWHELMINGLY REJECTED A SALES TAX INCREASE.

SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE REPUBLICANS, AND I JOINED THEM IN VOTING AGAINST THAT TAX INCREASE.

AND IT WAS HEROIC, THE SIXTH TIME IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY SINCE 1988 THAT PEOPLE HAVE REJECTED A SALES TAX INCREASE.

WELL WELL, I AM LOOKING AT THE AGUST 24, 2022 MCCONNELL AUDIT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY 212.005 SUB 11.

173-PAGE REPORT, WHICH IS UNADORNED AND SUBSTANTIALLY UNENCUMBERED BY ANY REFERENCE TO ANY PROBLEMS EVER IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WITH INTERNAL CONTROLS. IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT.

JUST DO A SEARCH USING YOUR COMPUTER, NEVER A MENTION OF

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IS NOW THAT DOCUMENT, WHICH WAS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTE 2120511 WAS INTENDED TO INFLUENCE THE VOTERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT A SALES STACKS INCREASE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF GIVING THE INFORMATION TO MCCONNELL AND JONES THAT WOULD HAVE LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN EMBEZZLEMENT PROBLEM IN OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ANSWER. I WOULD ALSO LIKE THE ANSWER TO THE 104 WRITTEN QUESTIONS THAT I PRESENTED ON SEPTEMBER 5, AND SEPTEMBER 19 LAST MONTH. MANY OF THEM FOCUSED ON INTERNAL CONTROLS. I WAS ABLE IN MY THREE MINUTES TO READ THROUGH THE REQUEST HE IS.

NEVER GOT AN ANSWER. NOBODY ANSWERED ANY OF MY QUESTIONS ON INTERNAL CONTROLS. WHAT I AM WONDERING NO YOU IS, CAN CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN OPINION FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHETHER THE OMISSION OF THAT MATERIAL FACT OF FIVE YEARS OF EMBEZZLEMENT, 786,6785, OWE BUILTING THE EMBEZZLEMENT FROM THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT.

VIOLATING THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE ACT.

ARE WE DECEIVING OUR BOND HOLDERS? ARE WE DECEIVING NOT ONLY TAXPAYERS BUT BOND HOLDERS BY NOT TELLING ANYBODY IN THE 173-PAGE REPORT ABOUT 786,785 IN EMBEZZLEMENT UNDER DAVID SHORE OVER FIVE YEARS.

I AM PREPARED TO WAIT FOR AN ANSWER.

THE PEOPLE DESERVE ANSWERS. I WOULD LIKE THE ANSWERS TO 104 QUESTIONS PLEASE IN WRITING UNDER OATH.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, MR. SLAVIN.

WELCOME. >> THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL WALLACE. 117 BROAD HAVEN DRIVE IN KNACK CA TEE. A GENERAL COMMENT.

FIRST I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR OF THE UPDATE FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ON COUNTY ROAD 210.

A SIMILAR SITUATION, I THINK, ON RACE TRACK ROAD AND WONDER BUILDING THERE IS A PLAN FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OR WIDENING OF THAT -- OF THAT ROADWAY. AND I GUESS THE GENERAL COMMENT IS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THESE THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE ALL OF THAT BUILDING WAS AUTHORIZE ALONG THOSE ROADWAYS AND SUCH CONGESTION AND SEEMS TO KNEE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE APPROVAL WAS GIVEN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PROPERTIES. SO I AM GLAD TO SEE IT IS HAPPENING. I WISH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPENING SOONER. BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS -- SUCH -- SUCH OVERWHELMING DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT.

MY SPECIFIC CHEMICAL WEAPON IS, ACCESS TO DEL WEB NACATEE TO THE SOUTH IS ON PINE ALLEN ROAD. WHERE IT INTERSECTS U.S. 1, AT LEAST ONE FATAL ACCIDENT THERE AND A TERRIBLE INTERSECTION AND I AM WONDERING WHO DO I TALK TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.

THANKS. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SIR. WELCOME BACK.

>> ANNEMARIE EVAN, ROBERTS ROAD. AS A CANDIDATE FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER, ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES IS HEAR ABOUT IS TRAFFIC.

WHAT IS REALLY INTERESTING IS THAT WE OPEN A NEW HIGH SCHOOL WITH A TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE ROAD IN PLACE.

AND YET GROWTH IS -- NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE STILL GETTING A~ PROVED. IT IS MIND-BOGGLING.

THE SAFETY ISSUE FOR OUR KIDS AND HERE WE ARE TWO MONTHS INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR DISCUSSING THIS BIG PROBLEM THAT IS HOLDING EVERYBODY UP WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO GET TO WORK AND SCHOOL. SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATED.

YOU OPEN A NEW HIGH SCHOOL, YOU WILL HAVE A LOT MORE DRIVERS BECAUSE KIDS ARE DRIVING. AND SO I JUST -- I HOPE THAT CONSIDERATION FOR TRAFFIC AND SCHOOLS WILL BE MORE OF A PRIORITY IN THE FUTURE WITH THE COMMISSION.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO REMARK ON IS THE REVIEW OF APPLICATIONS FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER ON FRIDAY.

I THINK COMMISSIONER DEAN IS HEADEDS THAT UP.

I AM ENCOURAGING THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT AND BE PART OF THAT PROCESS. IT IS A SUPER IMPORTANT POSITION. AND IN THE PAST, SOMETIMS THE PROCESS HAS BEEN LACKING. THE PUBLIC HAS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS NOW, SO I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL COME OUT ON FRIDAY. THANK YOU.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU. HI THERE.

>> HELLO. I CAME HERE TODAY TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE COUNTY STAFF FOR WORKING WITH THE MARSH

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IN THEIR EFFORTS TO PROVIDE CLOSURE TO THE MARSH LANDING PROJECT. I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS AND MEETING WITH US.

AS PREVIOUSLY COMMUNICATED. THE ASSOCIATION HAS A LONG HISTORY OF COMPLIANCE. AS WITH EVERYTHING AS WITH A CAR, HOME AND EVEN A PERSON, GENERAL MAINTENANCE IS REQUIRED, EXPECTED AND UNDERSTOOD. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ST.

JOHN'S RIVER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THE ASSOCIATION HAS VOLUNTARILY EXECUTED A CONSENT AGLEAM.

AGREEMENT. THE PURPOSE IS A MUTUALLY AGREED UPON SCHEDULE OF ACTIVITIES TO SAY LOW THE ASSOCIATION THE ABILITY TO PLAN, BUDGET FOR AND PULL FORWARD ACCORDINGLY NECESSARY MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY WITHIN THE MASTER ASSOCIATION RESERVE S STUDY.

THE AGREEMENT INCLUDED ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED HERE AT THE COMMISSIONERS' MEETINGS.

TO ELABORATE OF SOME OF THE CONTENT, BURN REHAB, SWALE WORK, CLEAN OUT TO SELECT CANALS AND SURVEY WORK TO SEE HOW THE ORIGINAL PLAN WORK WAS SUPERSEDED BY OTHER UPDATES OF THE SYSTEM. ALSO INCLUDED IN THE I DIGS OF A 48-INCH PIPE INSTALLED BETWEEN TWO LAKES.

WE RECEIVED NOTICE OF SEVERAL COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST THE ASSOCIATION FOR MAITENANCE ACTIVITIES.

AS DEMONSTRATED IN OUR JULY 2023 MEETING IT SHALL ON-SITE MEET WITH THE COUNTY, THE ASSOCIATION HAS A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT IS REVIEWED AND FOLLOWED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMPONENTS ARE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER. DURING THE MEETING, A DEMONSTRATION WAS PROVIDED OF THE ELECTRONIC MAIN THAT THE PLANS AND MANUEL. DETAILS EVERY ASPECT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE PLAN, WHILE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESERVE STUDY OUTLINES REPAIRS AND PLACEMENTS OF ASSETS.

AS NOTED PREVIOUSLY, SITUATION WHERE IS MAINTENANCE IS NEEDED.

AND WHILE WE STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE COMPONENTS THAT REACH THE END OF THE LIFE OR HAVE NEWER TECHNOLOGIES THAT THE ASSOCIATION PROACTIVELY STUDIES AND IMPLEMENTS. AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY STAFF'S TIME DEALING WITH THESE TOPICS.

AND WE UNDERSTAND WE ARE ONE COMMUNITY IN A VERY LARGE COUNTY. AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE TIME THAT YOU DEVOTED DEVOTED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE APPRECIATE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS AND STAFFED HAVE OTHER BUSINESS TO ATTENDS TO. SO, IF NEEDED, WE ARE ALWAYS HERE TO ANSWER A QUESTION, FOLLOW UP WITH AN E-MAIL OR TO HELP RESOLVE AN ISSUE. AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE COUNTY.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONERS' REPORTS. WE HAD A QUESTION OF PINE ISLAND ROAD. A PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. WE GOT FUNDING FROM STAT IT TO ARE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT OF PINE ISLAND AND U.S. 1. REFRESH OUR MEMORY WHEN IT WILL

BE IMPROVED. >> FULL FUNDING TO IMPROVE WITH A FOUR-WAY SIGNALIZATION FOR THE INTERSECTION.

DESIGN IS IN PROCESS. I THINK 12 TO 15-MONTH TIME FRAME WHEN IT WILL BE FINISHED .BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE AN UPDATE ON THAT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO ON YOUR MONTHLY UPDATE. IT IS FUNDED AND MOVING FORWARD.

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>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: MAN IN IT IS A PARTICULAR.

I AGREE, A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AND A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY. I ALSO AGREE THAT SOME OF THE ROAD WIDENING IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED AND OUR BOARD HAS TAKEN STEPS TO INVOLVE IN FORWARD.

I WANT TO GO INTO COMMISSIONERS' REPORTS.

START TO ANY RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: YOU ARE WELCOME.

>>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: I SAT THROUGH SOME OF THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE IDEAS FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT THERE AND FROM THE COUNTY. AND SOMETHING JUST CAME UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND I REALLY LIKE TO ADDRESS IT THE IMAX.

AND CONTINUING TO HAVE THE IMAG RUNNING.

WORKING WITH WG THE EMAX.

THE COUNTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE CORE COVERING MONTHLY LOSS IT IS OCCURRED BY THE IMAX. FUNDING TO REIMBURSE IN PARTICULAR COST THROUGH A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN AWARDED.THING WE SHOULD GO FURTHER EPIC THEATRE AND SUN RAY CINEMA CONTACTED ME AND SAID THEY WOULD COME IN AND RUN IT PROFESSIONALLY AND SHARE THE PROFIT AND DO IT TEMPORARILY UNTIL WE DECIDED WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. I REALLY THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.

I WAS IN THE LINE FOR "TOP GUN." THE TAYLOR SWIFT SHGZROS CONCERT

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I THINK IT IS AN ASSET THAT WE CAN'T GET RID OF AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE GOOD WILL ONCE IT STOPS -- THEY SHUT DOWN AT TE END. YEAR OR WHAT NOT.

I THINK IF WE CAN DO A RFP TO GET SOMEONE IN THERE TO RUN IT TEMPORARILY AND SHARE THE PROFIT.

WE ARE NOT HAVING TO USE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SALARIES OR THE EXPENSES TO DO THAT THROUGH OUR COUNTY. INSTEAD, WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL IMAX RUNNER AND BRING ALL THE MOVIES IN AND DO A GOOD JOB AND KEEP THAT RUNNING UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING OUT THERE. I AM NOT GOING TO ASK FROM CONSENSUS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I DON'T GET ANYTHING FROM CONSENSUS BUT I PUT IT OUT THERE SO PEOPLE ARE LISTENING.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JO HE SELF.

COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. >>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO EVALUATE THE BEACH CODE AND ORDINANCES TO THEM IMPROVE THE USER EXPERIENCE.

TEN YEARS SINCE THESE WERE UPDATED.

OVERALL, THE SUMMER WAS SUCCESSFUL AND CHALLENGES THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED AND ENFORCED WITH UPDATE FOR BOTH.

LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, E-BIKES WERE VERY POPULAR AND ADDRESS THEIR USE AND PROVIDE REGULATIONSES. I WOULD ASK FOR A CONSENSUS TO ASK STAFF TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SEE EVALUATE THE BEACH CODE AND PARK ORDINANCE AND RECOMMEND CHANGES

FOR CONSIDERATION. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I SUPPORT

THAT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: COMMISSIONER

JOSEPH. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: SURE.

>>COMMISSIONER ALAIMO: OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE A GREAT TOUR OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE. THEY DO AMAZING WORK.

STAFF IS FANTASTIC. AMAZING TO SEE IT ALL THEY DO OVER THERE AND THEY HAD THE UNVEILING OF THE HISTORICAL MARKER OF THE OLD GOVERNOR'S HOUSE LAST WEEK AND I GOT TO ATTEND THAT. AND GREAT JOB WHAT THE CLERK STAFF DOES OVER THERE. WHAT I HAVE TO REPORT.

THANK YOU. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THANK YOU,

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >>COMMISSIONER DEAN: I MENTIONED MY FIRE STATION SITE VISIT, SO LET ME MOVE ON.

THE ONE THING I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY IS OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION HIRING -- I AM REALLY SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC NOW AS MUCH AS THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WHOEVER IS LISTENING. EACH YEAR WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION HEARING. AND THEY HEAR NOT ONLY FROM THE COUNTY BUT FOR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES WANT TO SPEAK. AND THAT IS ON OCTOBER 13, A FRIDAY. AND THAT IS COMING UP BEFORE OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ON I BELIEVE THE 17TH.

SO FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE HAVING IT A LITTLE EARLIER THAN NORMAL IS THIS IS A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR. NORMALLY THE LEGISLATURE MEETS IN MARCH AND APRIL OF EACH YEAR, DURING THE FOUR-YEAR CYCLE OF THE PRESIDENCY MOVE UP TO JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

OUR SESSION BEGINS IN JANUARY THIS YEAR SO A LOT OF ACTIVITY WE WILL BE INVOLVED IN. AND A REALLY ROBUST LEGISLATIVE ASK AND TIME FRAME AND HAVING THE CELEBRATION HEARING COMING

UP SOON. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. TWO THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP.

FIRST WITH BUSINESS FIRST. I MET WITH A RESIDENT UP IN PABLO CREEK AND UPON WRITTEN REQUEST OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, WE THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS ENACTED AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A BOATING HE STRICTED AREA 300 FEET NORTHEAST AND 300 FEET SOUTHEAST OF THE SAN PABLO ROAD BRANCH ON POSSIBLE LOW CREEK. ENACTED ORDINANCE DID NOT INCLUDE THE RESTRICTED AREA FOR THE DOUBLE BLIND CURVE FURTHER NORTH ON PABLO CREEK EXCEEDED. MEETING WITH DAVID MEGGETT ESTABLISHING A BOATING RESTRICTION AN AREA FOR THE DOUBLE BLIND CURVE REQUIRES FOR USTO COMPLY TO THE COMMISSION.

AND KENNEL STRAIGHT BY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT SUCH AN ORDINANCE IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY. I BELIEVE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT SAFETY ISSUE. IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS DOUBLE BLIND CURVE AND SEEKING CONSENSUS TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE FOR THE REQUIRED APPLICATION AND SUPPORTING MATERIAL TO FWC FOR THE DOUBLE BLIND CURVE AT FAB LOW CREEK

NORTHEAST OF THE BRIDGE. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: DO WE HAVE A

CONSENSUS. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THE SECOND THING -- I DON'T WANT TO STEAL ALL OF THEIR THUNDER, BUT HENRY AND I ATTENDED THE SING OUT LOWERED, $1 61,530 WERE RAISED

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70 THOUSAND IN FOR THE ST. JOHNS MUSIC PROGRAMS, $70,000 FOR THE FIRST RESPONDER PROJECT. OVER $21,000 FOR THE GAME BELL ROGERS FESTIVAL. AND $500 TO THE FLORIDA STATE PARKS FOUNDATION. THANK YOU CULTURAL EVENTS DIVISION. AN AMAZING EVENT AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE RESIDENTS BOTH HERE AND OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY AND STATE THAT CAME IN AND ENJOYED OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY FOR THAT AND THE FOUR WEEKENDS THAT TOOK PLACE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

BUT FUN WAS HAD. MUMFORD AND SONS ROCKED THE HOUSE. THAT IS WHAT I HEARD.

I HAVE A FEW ITEMS. I HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH RESIDENTS IN NECK ROAD THAT SIMPLY E-MAILED ME AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS OF GOVERNMENT OVERREGULATION WITH WITHIN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT. BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE E-MAIL ME AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING WITHER DOING AND UPSET OF SOMETHING WE ARE DOING GROWTH MANAGEMENT OR RELATED OR OTHERWISE, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO E-MAIL ME.

REACH OUT. I HAD A STANDING OFFER SINCE THE MOMENT I WAS SWORN IN TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO MEET WITH YOU AND STAND UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TO ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS. THAT OFFER STILL STANDS AND ENCOURAGED BY THE MEETING I HAD WITH THE FOLKS OFF OF NECK ROAD.

IT IS CONVERSATIONS LIKE THAT THAT MAKE ME A BETTER COMMISSIONER AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO KEEP REACHING OUT.

I LOVE MEETING WITH A YOU. THE SECOND THING IS, I MET WITH FOLKS FROM THE TAG! MUSEUM WHICH IS A WONDERFUL CONCEPT. IS A CHILDREN SEAS I'M THAT I THINK COULD BE VERY WELL ATTENDED .THEY ARE ASKING FOR $3.5 MILLION FROM THE TOURISTIST DEVELOPMENT TAX FUND.

AND THEY TOLD ME IN THE MEETING THAT THE TDC BOARD RECOMMENDED THE FUNDING. AND THEY HAD TO GET A LITTLE CREATIVE AND I WENT BACK TO WATCH THE TDC AND TRUST AND VERIFY AND DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A STRONG RECOMMENDATION.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, I KNOW YOU ARE ON THAT BOARD.

AM I WRONG? AM I OUT OF WHACK?

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: I WOULD SAY YOU ARE NOT OFF BASE.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: CONFUSION. SOME BOARD MEMBERS HAD NOT ONLY THE LEVEL OF FUNDING BUT WHERE THE FUNDING CAME FROM.

PRECEDENT SETTING IN THE ASK. I WOULD LIKE TO GET BOARD CONSENSUS AND MR. MEGGET, MIGHT NEED A VOTE, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION IS ANYTHING BUT CLEAR IN PLY OPINION.

SO MR. MEGGETT, DO WE NEED A -- >> SORRY, I NEED MORE CLARIFICATION. SOMETHING THAT IS SCHEDULED TO

COME BEFORE NEW THE FUTURE? >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: THIS ITEM WILL COME BEFORE OUR BOARD. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR $3.5 MILLION IN IMMEDIATE FUNDING AND ANOTHER $5 MILLION IN FUTURE FUNDING. I WANT THE BENEFIT OF THE TDC'S

BOARD OPINION. >> BASED ON WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME, I WOULD RECOMMEND A MOTION TO REMAND IT BACK TO THE TDC FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY TO

ACCOMPLISH THAT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: I WILL TAKE A CRACK OF A FORMAL MOWING TO REMAND THE TAG! MUSEUM FUNDING REQUEST BACK TO THE TDC FOR CLARIFICATION.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: AT IN TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON TAG MUSEUM'S REQUEST TO THE TDC FOR FURTHER REVIEW. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MOTION? PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5 MACHINE 0. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

WE WILL BE A BETTER BOARD IF WE GET BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS FROM TDC. THE LAST ITEM IS THIS.

THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS IN PLACE AN ORDINANCE WHERE THEY CAN TRESPASS PEOPLE FROM THE CAPITOL, PEOPLE WHO REPEATEDLY AND EGREGIOUSLY VIOLATE THE BOARD'S RULE OF DECORUM.

WE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES OF PEOPLE TRYING TO USE THIS AS A SOAPBOX FOR POLITICAL THEATRE OR NY NUMBER OF THINGS. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE HEADED INTO AN ELECTION YEAR.

PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE WITH US.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME UP AND LECTURE US.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF THE MEETING IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND SHE SHOULD DISAGREE WITH US AS VEHEMENTLY AS LONG AS IT FALLS WITHIN BOARD'S RULES.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO GET CONSENSUS FROM OUR BOARD TO CONSTRUCT OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO SEEK OUT WHAT ORDINANCE MAY APPLY TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS THEY DO AT THE STATE LEVEL TO SEE IF WE CAN JUST KEEP A MORE ORDERLY BUSINESS MEETING SO IT DOESN'T GET OUT OF CONTROL AS WE HEAD INTO CERTAINLY WHAT WILL BE A EXCITING POLITICAL CYCLE NEXT YEAR.

>> YES. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: WE DON'T

HAVE CONSENSUS. >>COMMISSIONER JOSEPH: NO, SORRY, I THINK IT IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

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>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR OPTIONS TO ENACT AUTO AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL HELP US HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATION OF THE BOARD'S RULE OF DECORUM. A SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER DEAN: SECOND. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO WE HAVE -- WE NEED TO HEAR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS POINT, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CHAIRMAN'S -- HOW SHOULD WE SAY THIS? -- LOOKING INTO A NEW ORDINANCE IN TERMS STRENGTHENING OUR RULES OF DECORUM.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: STRENGTHENING THE REQUIREMENTS.

>> ED SLAVEN. EDSLAVEN.COM.

PLEASE VOTE IN MOTION DOWN. IT IS INTENDED TO HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT. COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH BLOCKER DID AWAY OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUT IT ON THE TAIL END OF OUR MEETING. I THINK THIS CURRENT BCC HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT RESTORED BUT SHOULD BE AT 9 A.M., NOT AT 11:30 OR LATER. AND CONSEQUENCES PTS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, PADDLE PEOPLE? ARREST THEM? YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY DOESN'T EVEN GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE WHEN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT POSSIBLE SECURITIES FRAUD IN HAVING PREPARED A PERFORMANCE AUDIT THAT OMITTED ANY MENTION OF FIVE YEARS OF EMBEZZLEMENT. FIVE YEARS OF EMBEZZLEMENT BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, $786 NOW, 785.

I WOULD RATHER SEE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DO SOMETHING TO EXERCISE YOUR DUTY OF FIDUCIARY TO THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO AND WHO ARE YOU GOING TO TARGET, ME? I HAVE STEIN IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH SINCE WE MOVED HERE NOVEMBER 5, 1999, SOME VERY TERRIBLE IDEAS COMING FROM OUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS WHO CLAIM THEY SUPPORT FREE SPEECH, BUT OTHER THAN COMMISSIONER KRISTA JOSEPH AND COMMISSIONER HENRY DEAN, WHO IS FIRST AMENDMENT ABSOLUTIST LIKE ME AND FRANKFURT AND BRANDEIS, THE REST OF Y'ALL, I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF RESPECT, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF RESPECT FOR SPEECH RIGHTS. THIS MOTION IS VOID FOR VAGUENESS. YOU HAVEN'T SAID WHAT YOU WANT TO STIGMAIZE. BUT WE KNOW.

WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND.

YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING HERE AND CALLING YOU OUT.

YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING HERE AROUND TALKING ABOUT ONE BILLION, 555 MILLION BUDGET THAT WAS VERY SHODDILY PREPARED AND VERY POORLY VETTED AN VERY LITTLE PUBLIC INPUT.

SO NOW YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO SILENCE US? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND.

? AND WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? YOU ARE HERE TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

NOT TRAVIS JAMES HUDSON, NOT DEVELOPERS, NOT VENDOR, NO, SIR PEOPLE HOME BEZEL BUT FOR THE PEOPLE.

I EXPECT TO SEE MORE OF THAT. AND YOU MENTION THE ELECTION.

SO YOU WANT TO CHILL FREE SPEECH JUST BEFORE AN ELECTION RIGHT AFTER A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES SPOKE TO Y'ALL? THAT DOG WON'T HUNT. THAT IS UNKIND, UNCOUTH.

PRAY FOR CHAIRMAN WHITEMURST TO HAVE HUMILITY AND DECENCY.

>>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SI

SIR. >> ANNEMARIE EVANS, CANDIDATE FOR COMMISSIONERS. I ASK YOU TO VOTE THIS MOTION DOWN. THIS IS AN OBVIOUS ATTACK ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND FREE SPEECH. THANK YOU.

A. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU.

>> IF GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FOR JUST A MINUTE. I AM CLAY MURPHY.

AND I AM ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER, DISTRICT 3.

I LIVE ON KINGS ROAD SOUTH IN OAK BROOK.

I WOULD SUGGEST OTHER THAN TAKING THIS NOW THAT YOU WILL MOVE THIS TO A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM AT A PREVIOUS MEETING.

I THINK IT IS -- IT IS ILL TIMED.

AND SHOULD BE DISCUSSED ON A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CONTAMINATIONER.

JACKIE DMULLEBLANC. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO THIS. WHAT DO NEED BEYOND WHAT THE CURRENT RULES ARE IN ROBERTS RULES AND SO FORTH.

I THINK IT IS ILL TIMED AND ILL INTENT.

WHAT DO YOU NEED BEYOND WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE AS FAR AS DECORUM? RULES OF DECORUM AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF HERE THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT CORRECTLY. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUT OF ORDER AND SPEAKING YOUR MIND.

THANK YOU. >>VICE-CHAIR ARNOLD: THANK YOU.

N ANY FURTHER UNLICK COMMENT. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>CHAIR WHITEHURST: TO BE CLEAR, THE MOTION WILL HAVE THE ATTORNEYS TO COME BACK AT A PUBLIC MEETING.

MR. MURPHY, THAT WILL BE DONE. MR. MEGGETT.

MY UNDERSTAND THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT A PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND THEREFORE NOT REALLY PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT. CAN YOU --

>> THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A LIMITED PUBLIC QUORUM.

PUBLIC COMMENT -- IN A CONSTITUTION SAL SENSE.

FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. FLORIDA STATUTE DOES REQUIRE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO VOTE ON ANY PROPOSITION THAT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD. THAT WILL BE REQUIRED.

IN TERMS OF YOUR QUESTION THOUGH, ANY COUNTY RESTRICTION WILL HAVE TO BE NARR NARROWLY TAILORED, CONTENT NEUTRAL TO APPLY TO EVERYONE -- NOT BASED ON WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. YOU CAN'T RESTRICT BASE ON WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND IF THE TIME, THE PLACE OR THE MANNER IS INCONSISTENT DECORUM, RULES CAN BE SET UP THAT WAY AND THATS TO BE DONE IN THE MOST NARROW WAY POSSIBLE TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT. THIS THIS MOTION PASSES, THOSE ARE WILL THE BE THINGS I WILL BE LOOKING AT AS I DID MY RESEARCH TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR -- AND PROVIDE YOU GUIDANCE AND SUGGESTIONS. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR

QUESTION. >>CHAIR WHITEHURST: IT SURE DOES, AND GOES RIGHT TO MY POINT.

I AM CERTAINLY NOT TRYING TO SUPPRESS ANYBODY FROM DISAGREEING WITH US. THAT IS NOT THE INTENT.

99% CAN FOLLOW OUR BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM AND A FRACTION OF 1% WHO REGULARLY VIOLATE OUR BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM.

I JUST THINK -- WHEN YOU SPEED, YOU GET A SPEEDING TICKET.

THERE SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES FOR REPEATED EGREGIOUS BAD BEHAVIOR.

THAT IS THE INTENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE VOTE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.