Sep 21, 2023 Planning and Zoning Agency

[Call meeting to order]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND STAND AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE FOR THE ROUTINE JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> WOULD YOU READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT PLEASE.

>> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED MEETING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW FOR THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO, AND TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY AREA OF JURISDICION AND BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER, AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MAY DO SO BY FILLING OUT A SIGN IN SHEET AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER, THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME ON EACH ITEM FOR LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH IS THREE MINUTES.

THE SPEAKER SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WHO THEY REPRESENT AND STATE THE ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD THEY SHOULD DO SWORN TESTIMONY AND IF IT'S NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN THE WAY OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.

IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH ANY RESPECT ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING SUCH PERSON WILL BE AT THE PROCEEDING AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES A TESTIMONY EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ANY VISIBLE DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS BE PROVIDED TO THE CLERK INTO THE RECORD AND THE RECORD WILL BE TO THE AGENCY AND COUNTY AND REVEAL OF APPEAL RELATED TO THE PRE-AGENCY MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT EACH ITEM EACH STATEMENT THAT THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PURPOSE UNDER PERSON OF AN ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY.

AS SUCH CAN MEDICATION HAS OCCURRED AGENCY MEMBERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED IN MATERIAL CONTENT OF COMMUNICATION. DISABILITY CLAUSE, WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE, WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES AND AVOID PERSONAL TEMPS.

>> THANK YOU. >> BEFORE WE OPEN FOR GENERAL COMMENT I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE ONE UNDERSTANDS THE TIMELINE AND THE PROCESS FOR YOU TO GO THROUGH HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH INTERTWINED NUMBER ONE WORK AND HAVE APPLICANT COME UP AND MAKE THEIR APPLICATION AND AFTER THEY MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION THAN THE BOARD MEMBERS ASKED QUESTIONS AND WILL BE RESPONSES FROM THE APPLICANT OR STAFF.

AFTER THE APPLICANT MAKES THE PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE FOUR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES AND WILL HAVE 10 MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF GROUP OF PEOPLE AND WE WILL ALLOW BOARD MOWERS TO ASK QUESTIONS.

AFTER THAT IS COMPLETED THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ONCE PUBLIC, IS DONE WE WILL HAVE REBUTTAL FROM THE APPLICANT ONLY AND AT THAT POINT WILL BE BACK INTO THE BOARD FOR DEBATING AND VOTING. IN TERMS OF TIMING WE STARTED AT 11 WHICH IS A CHANGE NORMALLY WE START AT 1:30 P.M.

PROBABLY AROUND 1:20 P.M., 125 REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE ARE AT WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.

AND IF I HAVE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM BEFORE THAT IT MIGHT BE EARLIER THAN THAT, I'M GETTING OLD.

AND AT 130 WE ARE GOING TO HEAR ITEMS TWO AND THREE ON THE AGENDA WE WILL BE RECESSING THIS HEARING AND WE WILL BE HEARING ITEMS TWO AND THREE AND WE WILL FINISH ITEMS TWO AND THREE AND AT THAT POINT WE WILL PROBABLY TAKE A 30 MINUTE LUNCH BREAK AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK ASSUMING WE NEED THE TIME WE WILL FINISH WE WILL FINISH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT WILL BE PUBLIC, UNTIL LATER THIS AFTERNOON DEPENDING UPON THE FIRST FEW STEPS APPLICANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND FOR THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS YOU CAN, ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA.

[1. PUD 2023-02 Ponte Vedra Resort. (Part 1 of 2)]

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COMMENT. >> SEEN NO ONE I'M GOING TO ASK THE BOARD FOR THE CONTACT WITH APPLICANT.

MEGAN, LET'S START WITH YOU. I'VE MET WITH MS. SMITH AND PAYTON ON AUGUST 9 AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.

>> I ALSO MET THE NINTH AND WE HAD A PRESENTATION.

>> I MET WITH AVERY SMITH IN THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LODGE AND ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MRD SOME LETTERS THAT HAVE COME IN WHICH I ACCIDENTALLY LEFT ON MY DESK THIS MORNING BECAUSE I'M NOT USED TO THE REGULAR MEETINGS WHICH I WILL TURN INTO STAFF WITH A VARIETY OF PEOPLE WITH A VARIETY OF COMMENTS.

>> I HAD A MEETING WITH MR. PAYTON AND MS. SMITH SOMETIME BEFORE AUGUST 9 AND AS APPLICATION HAS MORPHED I'VE HAD MANY MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH MSD WERE GOING TO FOLLOW AND THEN I WILL ALSO MENTION I HAD A CALL IN A CONVERSATION ASKING WHEN JAMES WHITEHOUSE. BEFORE YOU BEGIN KRISTINE I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE PRESENT TO THE BOARD IN THE AUDIENCE ARE CHARGED TODAY BECAUSE THE CHARGE IS NOT AS

BROAD AS IT MIGHT APPEAR. >> THAT IS CORRECT KRISTINE VALLEY SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

THIS ITEM INCLUDES LAND INSIDE THE ZONING DISTRICT OVERLAY AND OUTSIDE. OUTSIDE PORTION THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LODGE PARCEL PARTICULAR THE SPORTS CLUB ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD IS THE FOCUS OF THIS BOARD.

THE APPLICANT YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE PARCEL IN THE PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

THE RECOMMENDATION FROM PZA WILL BE LIMITED TO THE AREA THAT

INVOLVES THE OR PARCEL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND A LITTLE FURTHER QUITE A FEW WAIVERS IN HERE BUT A NUMBER OF THE WAIVERS DO NOT APPLY TO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL SORT RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE WAIVERS THAT APPLY WHICH I THINK STAFF DID A GOOD JOB OF GRAIN OUT THE ONES THAT PERTAIN TO THIS

PARTICULAR PARCEL. >> ALRIGHT I THINK WERE READY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN ROGERS TOWERS.

I HAVE THE CLICKER BEFORE I INTRODUCE HER TEAM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY, YOU ARE THE BOARD FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY THE RECOMMENDING BOARD THAT IS MOST EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH PUD'S AND WAIVERS WE WILL RELY ON YOUR EXPERTISE TODAY AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE WILL NOT WALK YOU THROUGH WAIVER BY WAIVER FOR THE PUD THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN OVERALL LOOK OF THE PUD C CAN SEE THE COMPONENTS OF IT FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

BEFORE I GET STARTED OUR TEAM WILL START OUT WITH JOHN PAYTON FROM PETROLEUM COMPANY CORPORATION.

WE ALSO HAVE MISTY SCAMPER AND MICHAEL GORDON WITH A AND THE REST OF OUR TEAM INCLUDES BRAD DAVIS AS HER PROJECTS THAT WILL ENGINEER AND IT INCLUDES LINDSAY HAGAN AND JEFF BRANDON FROM KANSAN MILLER. I TRY NOT TO MISS ANYONE AND ALSO DAVID SMITH AND JASON. FROM THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE WELL MARKS AND OF COURSE MY LAW PARTNER EMILEE PIERCE IS HERE WITH ME TODAY TO MAKE SURE I BEHAVE MYSELF.

WITH THAT BEING SAID ALL THAT MR. PAYTON KICKOFF TO GIVE YOU THE VISION AND THEN WILL GO INTO THE DETAILS.

>> THANK YOU ELLEN, MR. CHAIRMAN A MEMORY IS OF THE COMMITTEE I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING IN YOUR VOLUNTEER TIME EVALUATING RPD APPLICATION MY NAME IS JOHN PAYTON I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE GAY PETROLEUM 9548 JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32257. JUST A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO US IN HER APPLICATION THIS IS A FAMILY BUSINESS WE ARE LOCAL COMEDY AND WERE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO IMPROVE LOCAL RESORTS. THIS BUSINESS STARTED BY MY FATHER IN 1960 AND HAS GROWN CONSERVATIVELY OVER THE YEARS FOR 60 YEARS. THESE RESORTS ARE A PROUD ASSET

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THE GATE GIVES BACK TO SYRIA WE'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS AND INVESTED OVER $150 MILLION IN THESE PROPERTIES INTO OWNERSHIP BUT THERE IS A TIME WHERE MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE WERE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE THE 100 DELIVERS THREE THE LODGE IS FOUR YEARS OLD AND PROPOSING TO MAKE THEM BETTER THAN THEY ARE TODAY, NEXT SLIDE FOUNDED IN 1928 IT'S ONLY IN THE REGION AND A HUGE CONTRIBUTOR WITH THE PAYROLL TAXES AND WERE PROUD OF THE IMPACT BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE ESTIMATED IN THE LODGE AS WELL THE SMALLER PROPERTY IN THE FLETCHER FAMILY AND WE REQUIRED IT LATER NEXT LINE. WE HAVE A FEW CHALLENGES MANY ARE BUILT ON SLABS ON SAND DUNES AND THEY'RE NOT STORM WORTHY AND NOT RESILIENT BUILDINGS AND THAT WHAT INSPIRED HER PROCESS FOR THE MASTER PLANS IN THESE BUILDING SEEM TO BE ADDRESSED, NEXT SLIDE. STORM DAMAGE IS WHAT INSPIRED THE PROCESS AND THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO CARRY THROUGH TO MASTER PLANNING PROCESS THAT'S LASTED OVER FIVE YEARS.

OUR BUILDINGS ARE DATED, QUITE FRANKLY IN THE INDUSTRY A LOT OF OUR AMENITIES ARE DATED AND BUILDINGS ARE NOT COMPETITIVE AND WE SEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT WITH A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE BY COMPETITORS, THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY WITHOUT INVESTMENT WE WILL NOT CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT RATING AND RANKING THAT HAS IN THE MARKET. WE THINK IT DESERVES INVESTMENT.

THAT IS WHAT THIS PLAN IS ABOUT WE TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH OVER MANY YEARS BECAUSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE ARE EXPENSIVE AND I GIVE THE EXAMPLE THE SURF CLUB TODAY WHICH NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WILL SIT AFTER MEETS FEMA REGULATION ON 557 PINES I THINK THAT'S A NUMBER.

EACH PILINGS HAVE 53 FEET LONG. EVEN BEFORE WE COME INTO THE GROUND TO GET THE BILLING COMPLIANT WITH FEMA WILL SPEND OVER $2 MILLION. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN IT IS A BUSINESS AND IT ENSURES INVESTMENT. AND ALSO PRESERVING THE CHARACTER PLACE. AND I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THE TEAM HAS DONE IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERINGS WE WORKED HARD TO COME PROVIDE COMPETITIVE BUILDINGS IN THE STORM WORTHY AND MEETING THE NEED TO KEEP THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURE NONE OF THESE BUILDINGS FROM FINISHED WILL EXCEED THE HEIGHT ON THE CAMPUS.

MEETING THE OBJECTIVES STORM RESILIENCY AND AMENITIES THAT ARE COMPETITIVE AND ALL THESE THINGS WENT INTO THE PROCESS AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FOR FAMILY BUT THE PROPERTY IS WORTHY, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM SHARES A LOVE AND PASSION FOR THIS PLACE, WEAVE A SERIES VESTED INTEREST IN KEEPING AS GOOD IF NOT THAT ARE KEEPING IT FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN REPRESENTS WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND LOOK FORWARD LESS

TO A 1200 TO OUR MEETING. >> WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE SAME THING WE WILL MOVE ON WITH NO REMARKS IN THE DIVISION.

>> THINK YOU. GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS AND THINK OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENTER PRESENT TODAY NAME IS NOWHERE MARKS AND ARCHITECT VICE PRESIDENT AND ARCHITECTURE OF LANDSCAPE IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 1301 RIVERPLACE BOULEVARD SUITE 1818. ALSO BE PRESENTED TODAY ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES COOPER, KYLE RICE AND BOND IN THE INNING CLUB PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION BUT WE WILL START WITH THE LODGE TODAY. JUST TO GET YOU ORIENTED IN THIS VIEW YOU ARE ABOVE THE EXISTING LODGE BUILDING LOOKING TO THE SOUTHWEST SOUTH OF CORONA ROAD AND YOU CAN SEE THE NEW ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN IS SITUATED ADJACENT TO THE CARLISLE TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN AND IT'S IN THE FORM OF THE MASSING.

WE ARE SEEKING TO WORK WITH THE EXISTING ENVIRONMENT CONTEXT AND CREATE A CONTINUOUS URBAN SPACE IN A LODGE BEING A LAGOON SUPPORTED WITH A RESIDENTIALLY SCALED APPROPRIATE WITH DETAILED RESORT BUILDING IN THE KEY ELEMENT HERE WE HAVE GONE TO

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THIS VIEW ILLUSTRATES THE CONCEPT AS WELL AND IN THIS VIEW WERE LOOKING TO THE WEST AND HOVERING ABOVE THE EXISTING OCEANFRONT LODGE. YOU SEE THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE CARLISLE BUILDING AND THE GARAGE EMERGING FROM THE FAR LEFT CORNER OF THE SCREEN ILLUSTRATING HOW CAREFULLY AND COMPLETELY SCREENED THE GARAGES. AGAIN THIS IS BECOMING THE GATEWAY TO THE RESORT CORRIDOR. HERE IS A VIEW FROM THE FRONT DOOR OF THE GARAGE AND YOU REALLY GET A CHANCE TO ABSORB ALL THE VARIETY OF DETAILS THAT WE BROUGHT INTO THE FAÇADE WE SOUGHT TO BRING IN THE OLD WORLD BALCONIES AND EVOCATIVE OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND OTHER ELEMENTS AND ENRICH THOSE WITH SOME OF OUR MODERN JURORS AND TRADITIONS IN THE COASTAL FOR THE STYLES.

IN THE CEDAR SHAKE AND SOME OF THE ARTICULATION OF THE SIMPLE WINDOWS AND MODEL BUILDING. AND IT SETS IT DOWN AND LOCATES IT AND CREATES INEXPERIENCED IN THE COURTYARD AREA.

HERE IS AN INTERIOR VIEW FROM THE LOT AND IF YOU'RE IN THE SURFACE LOT LOOKING NORTHEAST THAT THE VIEW OF THE GARAGE AND THE STAIR TOWERS OF THE GARAGE NEEDS TO THE RESORT BUILDING BACK INTO THE RIGHT. AGAIN THE LANDSCAPING IS KEY TO MINIMIZE THE VISUAL APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING AND FROM ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. ON TO THE CLUB.

THE FIRST SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE PRESIDENT ARCHITECTURE THAT THE COOPER CARRIE TEAM TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE FUTURE THESE ARE THE OCEAN AND PAYTON HOUSE BUILDINGS THAT MOST RECENTLY WAS CONSTRUCTED IN ARTICULATION ALONG THE FRONT EDGE OF THE BUILDING AND FLAT SURFACE THAT IS ON THE BOULEVARD MAKING SURE THERE IS SUFFICIENT LIGHT SHADOW AND ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST IN DETAIL. THE MATERIAL PALLET THAT YOU SEE PAINTED BRICK TILE ROOFS WITH DETAILS AND DEPLORABLE'S IN WINDOWS AND SHUTTERS IS ALSO CONTINUED TO THE CAMPUS DESIGN.

THERE WE GO. THERE IS THE OTHER VIEW SHOWING THE LANDSCAPING PLAYING A KEY ELEMENT IN SETTING THE BUILDING TO PROPERLY WITHIN THEIR CONTEXT.

HERE IS A VIEW OF THE PROPOSED SPORTS CLUB LOOKING FROM THE SOUTHWEST IF YOU'RE DRIVING SOUTH OF SABIA ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT THIS IS THE PARKING GARAGE IT IS A MOST HARD TO DETECT THIS IS A TURN IN AND DRIVE TO THE PARKING GARAGE TO THE BOULEVARD AND CAREFUL ATTENTION BEING PAID TO THE MASSING, HOW IT SITS AND HOW IT TAPERS FROM A HIGH POINT IN THE CENTER DOWN THROUGH THE SERIES OF THE TILE EDGES WITH A SPLITTING OF DETAIL IN ARTICULATION AND REALLY TRIED TO MAKE THE BUILDING FLOW INTO THE SITE AND THE CONTINUITY OF THE CAMPUS AS A WHOLE. ANOTHER KEY ELEMENT THIS IS ADJACENT CORNER VIEW AS WELL WHEN YOU SEE THE CROSSWALK ALL THE CROSSINGS ON THE BOULEVARD HAVE BEEN CONSOLIDATED INTO THE CROSSWALK AREA TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CROSSINGS AND INCREASE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THE AND TO EXPERIENCE OF MULTIPLES. HERE IS A VIEW FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST OF THE BACKSIDE OF THE PARKING GARAGE EVERY SIDE OF THE GARAGE IS TREATED ARCHITECTURALLY IN A BEAR PARKING GARAGE AND IN THIS CASE IS BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO 38-FOOT HEIGHT ARTICULATED WITH TOWERS AND THIS DEPICTS THE INSTALLATION RATHER THAN WHAT WILL GROW OVER TIME EVEN FROM DAY ONE IT WILL BE OBSCURD BY THE LANDSCAPING.

HERE IS A VIEW OF THE SURF CLUB IF YOU'RE ON THE BOULEVARD

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EVEN TO BECOME A ONE-STORY BUILDING FOR THE OCEANFRONT DEPICTED IN THE FOREGROUND OF THE IMAGE AND STEPPING OUT TO THE SURF CLUB. THAT CONCLUDES ARCHITECTURAL

PRESENTATION. >> BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DRAWING PART OF THE PUD I WANT TO POINT OUT THE ARCHITECTURE FOR THE SPORTS CLUB IN THE SURF CLUB THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU AS WELL AS A LODGE FITNESS FACILITY, THE ARCHITECTURE IS INCLUDED EXHIBIT D AS IN DOG AND ARCHITECTURE BY THE MAJOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE THOSE PARTICULAR BUILDING IN THE ARCHITECTURE HE JUST SHOWED YOU. THAT OF COURSE IS INCORPORATED INTO THE PUD. GETTING STARTED ON THE PUD OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TWO CAMPUSES IF YOU WILL THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PUD THEY ARE BOTH RESORTS AND THEIR OWN BY THE SAME COMPANY SO WE PUT THEM BOTH INTO THE PUD BECAUSE THE SAME RULES APPLY TO BOTH, THE PBI C PROPERTY IN THE PUD TEXT IS THIS PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IN THE LODGE PROPERTY IS TO THE SOUTH THAT IS ORIENTED TO YOU WHERE YOU ARE AMONG THE OCEAN FROM THE BEECHER BOULEVARD EAST OF A 1A. I WANT TO POINT OUT AND OR DETAILS OF BEACH AND CAMPUS IS APPROXIMATELY 300 ACRES IN SIZE AND GOLF COURSES AND LAGOONS AND OTHER THINGS.

WE ONLY INCLUDED 80 ACRES WITHIN THE PUD SO THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THE PUD BOUNDARIES.

>> ZOOMING IN, YUM! THE 80 ACRES OVERTIME WE HAD ATTENTION FROM THE PUBLIC AND THERE BEEN RUMORS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ON THE GOLF COURSES AND LAGOONS SO WE'VE BEEN VERY CAREFUL IN THE LATEST APPLICATION SUBMITTAL WHO WAS SEPTEMBER 1 TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE FASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN GOLF COURSE NO DEVELOPMENT, LAGOON NO DEVELOPMENT. THAT CONTINUES AND EMBEDDED IN THE PUD TEXT AS WELL FOR THE RECORD.

GOING INTO THE LODGE BUILDING OR THE LODGE CAMPUS AGAIN THE BEACH I SHOULD'VE POINTED THAT OUT HAS NO DEVELOPMENT EITHER EAST OF THE BULKHEAD LINE. GOING TO THE LODGE PROPERTY THE SAME THING NO DEVELOPMENT ON THE BEACH THIS LAGOON IN THE UPLAND AREA BEHIND CARLISLE OUR OWN BY THE CORPORATION AND WE'VE HEARD FROM THE FOLKS AT THE CARLISLE THEY DO NOT WANT DEVELOPMENT SO WE MADE SURE THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAGOON AREA THERE AND PART OF THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CORPORATION BUT IN THE RIVER WHICH THE CORPORATION DOES NOT OWN THERE IS NO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. IT IS NOT OWNED BY OUR CLIENT.

GOING TO WHAT COULD OCCUR ON THIS PROPERTY TODAY THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND THE RESORT PROPOSED USE, WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT A PUD.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP I'M GOING TO START WITH THE CLUB RED IS COMMERCIAL, THIS PROPERTY AND THIS HAS EXISTED SINCE 1928 THIS HAS BUILDINGS THAT PREDATE THE COMPETENCY PLAN IN 1990 AND ALSO HAS BUILDINGS THAT PREDATE THE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATION IN 1990 THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP A COMMERCIAL NO WERE THE END WAS

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THIS IS WHAT EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY AND IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ON THE PROPERTY TODAY. AGAIN FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY AND IT SHOWS YOU RESIDENTIAL BE ISR AND FA ARE IN THE COMMERCIAL, AGAIN MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT IS A LOT OF THE PROPERTY TODAY AVERAGES 70% IN MAXIMUM IS 50% TODAY.

AND ALLOWS VARIOUS COMMERCIAL USES.

SIMILARLY THESE ARE SOME OF THE USES AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE, HOTELS AND MOTELS PRIVATE CLUBS VARIOUS NON- RESORTS RELATED FOR COMMERCIAL USES INCLUDING RESTAURANTS, SERVICE STATIONS AND CONVENIENCE STORES, VETERINARY HOSPTALS, RETAIL SERVICE USES AND OTHERS AS WELL AS A VARIETY OF NON- RESORT OFFICE USES, THIS IS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT COULD OCCUR ON THE PROPERTIES TODAY.

SIMILARLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP WE LOOK AT THE CLUB PROPERTY FIRST THIS IS COMMERCIAL, THE GREEN IS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.

SO AGAIN THERE COULD BE COMMERCIAL USES ON THE PROPERTY AND THERE COULD BE MULTI-FAMILY ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY USES ON THE PROPERTY SIMILARLY FOR THE LODGE PROPERTY YET THE OCEANFRONT BUILDING WHICH IS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND IT ZONING.

COMMERCIAL ZONING HERE, HERE AND HERE INTO HIS POINT EARLIER THIS IS THE OR ZONE PROPERTY IN THE PURPLE RIGHT HERE THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN A NEWBORN'S PURVIEW.

AGAIN FROM THE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS PERMITTED USES, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY HOTELS AND MOTELS PRIVATE CLUBS A VARIETY OF NON- RESORT RELATED RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE USES. THESE LISTINGS IN THE EXAMPLES ARE STRAIGHT OUT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT.

WHY IS THE BENEFIT TO RESOLVE THIS PROPERTY TO DO UD.

IT PROHIBITS FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND OTHER THAN RESORT RELATED USES. NO SINGLE-FAMILY NO MULTI-FAMILY NO NON- RESORT COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES OR WHAT IS BROUGHT BY THE PUD, IT'S VERY CLEAR. IT ALLOWS THE OWNER IN THE COMMUNITY CERTAINTY AS A FUTURE VIABILITY OF THE FIVE INNING CLUB AND THE DIAMOND RESORT THAT IS THE LODGE.

MR. PAYNE TOLD YOU HOW MUCH THEY HAVE INVESTED SO FAR HIS FAMILY HAS INVESTED SO FAR IN THIS PROPERTY AND THEY ARE WILLING TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THESE RESORTS.

TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY A LONG-TERM MASTER PLAN FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTIES OVER TIME IN LAND USE CERTAINTY

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, GOING INTO THE PUD. AGAIN PROHIBITS ANY NON- RESORT RELATED USES INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE RESORT OR NOT COTTAGES.

GRANDFATHERS AND A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS NOT ONLY AT THE CLUB BUT AT THE LODGE PREDATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CLUB AND WERE ASKING THAT THOSE THAT THE OCEANFRONT LODGE.

THOSE WILL BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE AS A CONSTRUCTIVE TODAY. MR. MARX JUST TALKED TO ABOUT IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN INTERCONNECTIVITY ALONG THE BOULEVARD. AND HE SHOWED YOU THE PARTICULAR BRANCHES ARE WRAPPED IN THE SPORTS CLUBS THE SPORTS FACILITIES THE RAPID GARAGES VIA MEMBERS OF BOTH CLUBS WORKOUT AND SWIMMING WHATEVER TOP-NOTCH STATE OF THE ART FITNESS FACILITIES GOING INTO THE FUTURE AND THEY WRAP THOSE SEA COULD NOT SEE A MAJORITY OF THE GARAGES ON PUBLIC STREETS.

IT ALLOWS THE REDEVELOPMENT I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS IN OTHER THAN TO TELL YOU THE EXISTING USES ARE INCLUDED IN PHASE ONE AND ROOMS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE ARE DEVELOPED OVER TIME. , GOING TO DESIGN CRITERIA THE MAXIMUM PERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO IS ESTABLISHED BY THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF EACH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

SAME THING FOR LOT COVERAGE LIABILITIES.

THE SETBACKS THAT ARE INCLUDED DISCUSSED HER EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK AND I WILL EMPHASIZE MINIMUM. BECAUSE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ARE SET AT 5 FEET TODAY THAT'S WHY REQUEST A 5-FOOT SETBACK AND WE INCREASED THE SIDE YARD SETBACK THIS IS FROM THE PERIMETER OF THE PUD BOUNDARIES TO 10 FEET IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE AT THE CARLISLE.

IN THE REAR YARD IS 5 FEET AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING USES BETWEEN THE OCEAN OF THE BOULEVARD IN THE LAGOON.

THE BUILDING SEPARATION IS LESS THAN 20 FEET TODAY AND ALL BUILDINGS WILL BE SEPARATED BY 20 FEET, THE CHANGE TO THE DOCUMENTS ON SEPTEMBER 1, THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE PER ACRE IS SET IN THE COPPER HAS A PLAN WERE NOT ASKING.

WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TODAY. AGAIN LANDSCAPING WILL BE ON THE BOULEVARD AND ALSO ENHANCE THE RIGHT AWAY OF THE BOULEVARD LIKE IT OCCURS TODAY. GOING TO BUILDING LINKS THESE ARE ALSO CHANGES ONE OF WHICH I'LL TALK YOU THROUGH THE BUILDING LINKS THAT EXIST TODAY AND WERE GOING TO THE PBI C EAST RESORT BUILDINGS EAST OF THE BOULEVARD RESORT ROOMS ONLY NO RESORT SPACE EXISTING LENGTH OF THE BUILDING IS 289 FEET AND WERE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT.

FOR EAST OF THE BOULEVARD EAST COMBINED RESORT SPACE IN ROOMS FOR RESORT SPACE ONLY ARE GOING TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 349 FEET IN LENGTH AND WERE ASKING FOR 365 FEET IN LENGTH BECAUSE THAT AGAIN MR. MARX SHOWED YOU THE VISION OF THE SURF CLUB THAT WE BUILT ON THE BEACHSIDE OF PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD.

WEST FOR RESORT ROOMS ONLY THE BUILDING LINKS FOR EXISTING THE MAXIMUM LENGTH IS 261 AND WERE NOT SEEKING TO CHANGE THAT.

FOR THE PROPERTY WEST OF THE BOULEVARD AGAIN RESORT ROOMS IN RESORT SPACE COMBINE THE EXISTING BUILDING IS 376 FEET AS THE EXISTING PONTE VEDRA AND FLEX IN A CONFERENCE CENTER ATTACKS TO IT AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATIVE WING AND THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN 376 FEET. ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WE WILL REFLECT IN THE NEXT VERSION OF THE PUD TEXT IS PONTE VEDRA ZONING ADJUSTMENT BOARD WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE RESORT SPACE ONLY MEETING THE SPORTS CLUB ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD. WE HAVE AGREED THAT THAT BUILDING DOES NOT EXIST TODAY AND WE AGREED THE BUILDING WILL

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THEN WE HAVE BASED AGAIN ON EXISTING CONDITIONS AND RESILIENCY AND YOU SEE ALL THE WAIVERS AND THE JUSTIFICATION ON THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND YET THIS WAIVER 31 FOR NONCONFORMING LOTS THEN GOING TO THE TEXTS EXISTING CONDITION ON THE GROUND YOU SEE THIS SETBACK MEASUREMENT LAND OF ELEMENT CODE AND AGAIN, EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THE LAND OF ELEMENT CODE WAIVER 27 AND WAIVER 30 IN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON THE BEACH MASTER-PLANNED OF ELEMENT DETAILS IN LAND OF ELEMENT CODE WAIVERS. IN GOING TO THE LAST SLIDE EXISTING CONDITION DEVELOPING CODE WAIVERS AND WE CAN TALK ANY ON THE WAIVERS BUT WERE NOT TO TALK ABOUT MANY OF THEM EXCEPT THE THING THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE MOST KEEN THEN ON SO I'M GOING TO LET OUR EXPERT CIVIL ENGINEER TALK ABOUT

BUILDING HEIGHT. >> GOOD MORNING AND THINK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU AM A CIVIL ENGINEER WITH LOCAL PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FOR 1391 JACKSONVILLE 32224 WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT WAIVERS AS WE MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO BUT THE MOST IMPERMANENT FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU FOLKS IS RELATION TO BUILDING HEIGHT, ALL DIVE IDENTIFIES OKAY THIS IS IN REGARD TO WAIVERS ONE AND 24. PUD FINDS BUILDING HEIGHT AS THE HEIGHT FROM THE FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION TO THE VERY TOP OF THE STRUCTURE. FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION AND THE COMMON TERMS AND BE THE FIRST FLOOR OF INHABITABLE SPACE A PLACE FOR HIS CONDITION IN A PLACE WHERE YOU WALK INTO A BUILDING AND IN OUR CASE THE TOP OF THE BUILDING IS A VERY TOP WHATEVER THE TOP PRODUCTION IS PREVIOUSLY WE HAD SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT COINCIDED WITH CODE AND INPUT OF ADDITIONAL STUFF IN THE TOP OF THE BUILDING WHICH MEANS MECHANICAL OR ELEVATOR SHAFTS OR STAIRCASES ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR SOME POSITIVE STATE. THE TOP OF THE BUILDING IS A VERY HIGHEST PROJECTION. THAT PROBABLY BEGS THE QUESTION HOW IS THE FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION DETERMINED.

FINISHED FLOOR IS DETERMINED BASED ON THREE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND NOT BY THE APPLICANT AT ALL PREVIOUS BASED ON THE CONFINES OF CODE FROM A FEDERAL PERSPECTIVE IT IS BASED ON FEMA AND STATE PERSPECTIVE THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IN THE LOCAL PERSPECTIVE IS BASED ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE. EACH OF THESE AGENCIES HAVE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS ON THE FLOOR AS IT RELATES TO FLOOD ELEVATION STORM SURGE WAVE HEIGHT IN THE ROAD AND ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS. BETWEEN THE MOST TRANSIT OF THE AGENCIES THAT'S WHAT DICTATES THE FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION.

WE CANNOT CONTROL THAT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

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BECAUSE PICTURES REALLY HELP ME AND MAY HELP YOU AS WELL AT THAT IT WOULD START WITH AN EXAMPLE THIS IS ON PONTE VEDRA AND PART OF THE PROPERTY SO NORTH OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING AT THE END FROM PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. IF WE START THE ROAD AND WORK OUR WAY UP TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN THAT IS ABOUT ELEVATION 10 AND HERE'S A LITTLE BIT FOR TODAY'S CONVERSATION LET'S CALL IT 10. AS WE APPROACH THE FRONT DOOR AND SURE YOU WATCH IT BEFORE AND THE RIGHT OF ELEVATION I CALLED THE ADJACENT GRADE IT IS REALLY ALSO TO THE ELEVATION DUE TO THE AGE OF THE BUILDING. WE KNOW BASED ON SURVEY THAT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING IS ELEVATION 65.

ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE I INSERTED WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT APPLICATION WOULD BE AS WELL AS ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY DICTATES ELEVATION 65 MINUS 10 AND HALF PLUS OR MINUS FOR APPLICATION.

THIS IS THE SAME SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD AND IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED AS WERE ADJACENT THIS IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE OCEAN AND THE AIR FORCE SUBJECT TO THE LOSS OF THE ZONE FROM FEMA. AS YOU SEE WE HAVE THE SAME SIMILAR ELEVATIONS OUT OF THE BOTTOM THE BOULEVARD STARTING ELEVATION 10 AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT ADJACENT GRADE AS ACCOUNTING WOULD DEFINE IT. IT SAYS CONSTRUCTIVE FINISH FOR ELEVATION 18 THAT WAS PREDICATED ON THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND ONE OF THE AGENCIES.

DEP REGULATES WAVE CREST AND IT COMES DURING A STORM EVENT AND WE CAN HAVE A SINGLE STRUCTURAL NUMBER LOWER THAN THE WAVE CREST AND THAT IS ELEVATION 15. STRUCTURAL MEMBER OF HER FOUNDATION DICTATES THAT ARE ACTUAL VIOLATION IS 18 THAT'S HOW WE GET TO 18 AND WE SEE THAT NUMBER IN THE NEXT SITE IS AN IMPORTANT NUMBER IN THE TOP OF THE BUILDING IS ELEVATION 53 AND AS WE LOOK AT THE TWO DEFINITIONS OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT ON THE TOP IS A POD AND AM SPECIFYING FOR TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY SO EVERYONE IN THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 253 MINUS 18 AND THEN 53 MINUS 13 MINUS FIVE. AS WE LOOK SOUTH DOWN THE BOULEVARD TO THE BUILDING THAT NOAH PRESENTED TO YOU THIS IS THE PROPOSED SURF CLUB AND YOU WILL SEE FAMILIAR ELEVATIONS ARE BUT I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH TRANSPARENCY.

THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND PART OF THE SCREEN YOU WILL SEE ELEVATION 10 10 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD.

ELEVATION 13 THAT'S WITH THE COUNTY WOULD DEFINE ADJACENT GRADE AS PER THE WAY OF THE LOWER STRUCTURAL ELEVATION WHICH IS ELEVATION 15 BASED ON DEP STUDY NOTHING WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT. THAT IS THE LOWEST NUMBER THAT DICTATES ELEVATION OF 18. 18 IS OUR STARTING POINT AND TO MAKE IT MORE RESILIENT AND MANNED THE STORMS THAT MR. PAYTON WAS TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS WHAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA SAYS HER VOTING HAS TO BE OFF WE HAVE NO CHOICE.

BASILAR PUD WE HAVE REQUESTED 5F THE END.

54 FEET ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE.

54 FEET PLUS THE 18 FEET OF ELEVATION 18 WILL TOP THE BUILDING OF ELEVATION 72. AGAIN FOR TRANSPARENCY IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE IT WOULD BE ELEVATION 72 MINUS THE ADJACENT GRADE OF ELEVATION 13 OF 59.

THERE IS A 5-FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COUNTY DEFINITION AND WHAT WE PRESCRIBED IN THE PUD.

IF YOU LOOK BACK YOU WILL SEE IN A PERSPECTIVE YOU CAN SEE THE TOP OF OUR BUILDING HEIGHT WAS 40 ON THE OCEAN HOUSE AND NOW IT

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AS WE MOVE ACROSS THE STREET TO THE SPORTS CLUB WERE BACK ON THE EASY SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THE VELOCITY FLOOD ZONE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY WAVE ACTION TO LOOK AT SO REBECCA ST. JOHNS COUNTY STANDARDS TO MEET THE FINISH ELEVATION.

WE STARTED THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND SIDE AT ELEVATION 10 YOU'VE HEARD THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE WILL REQUIRE US TO BE ELEVATION 12 FOR FINISH FOR ALLEGATION.

THIS IS BASED ON THE COUNTY CODE OF THIS CASE.

ELEVATION 54 THAT'S WHAT WERE ASKING FOR AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS TODAY IS A MOMENT AGO AND NOTABLY ELEVATION THE NEW ELEVATION WILL BE ELEVATION 66 AND THEY MAKE THIS 56 FEET HIGH RELATIVE TO THE COUNTY CODE. AS WE MOVE SOUTH TOWARDS THE LODGE WE HAVE A SIMILAR EXERCISE FOR THE BUILDING THAT NOAH PRESENTED TO YOU THIS IS A PROPOSED FITNESS CENTER AS YOU LOOK SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD IS IN THE AREAS ELEVATION 11 ADJACENT GRADE IS 12 AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY WOULD DICTATE ELEVATION OF THE FINISH LAWYER ELEVATION 13.

BASED ON OUR PROPOSED ASKED WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A 55-FOOT TALL BUILDING FROM THE ELEVATION WHICH IS THE MAX BUILDING HEIGHT OF ELEVATION. 68 AND THE ELEVATION WOULD BE 55 TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE WOULD ONLY BE 56 BECAUSE THIS IS VERY, VERY SIMILAR. AS WE LOOK AT THIS FROM A PLAN PERSPECTIVE, THE BUBBLES IN BLUE OF PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHTS OF THE DEFINITION THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH AND THE EXISTING OF WHAT WERE GOING TO CHANGE ARE ASKING FOR A CHANGE.

SIMILARLY AT THE LODGE WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE YELLOW WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY AND ASKING TO CHANGE.

IN THE LODGE WE HAD SOMETHING GREATER THAN THIS AND WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE TOOK THAT AWAY SO THE LODGE WOULD STAY EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS IF A HURRICANE COMES DOWN THE LODGE WILL GO BACK UP IN THE PROFILE I ELEVATION PROFILE.

THIS IS HELPFUL FOR ME THIS IS DRAWN FOOTAGE FROM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO ON THE BOULEVARD TO YOUR LEFT INTO THE RIGHT YOU CAN BARELY SEE THE RACKET CLUB. RETAKING THE 3D MODEL AND WE PUT INTO THE DRAWN FOOTAGE AND GEOMETRICALLY CORRECT FROM A HORIZONTAL PERSPECTIVE. AS YOU SLIDE TO THE NEXT IMAGE YOU SEE THE SURF CLUB APPEAR AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN THE SPORTS CLUB THAT NO ONE MENTIONED IN THE TENNIS COURTS AND AS PART OF THE PICTURE.

IF I GO BACK ONE MORE TIME EXISTING AS IT STANDS TODAY THE IMAGE TAKEN TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO PROPOSED WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION.

YOU COULD SEE IS VERY ATTRACTIVE THE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR AND A MEMBER WILL HAVE A REALLY NICE VIEW AND EXPERIENCE GOING TO THE BOULEVARD AS THEY DID TODAY. IF WE GO THROUGH THE SAME EXERCISE, TODAY THIS IS RIGHT BEFORE WERE DOING THE NEW MAINTENANCE OF THE LANDSCAPE SO THIS IS MAYBE A MONTH AGO AND YOU CAN SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS TODAY AS WE LOOK SOUTH WILL HAVE THE SPORTS CLUB IN THE SPORTS CLUB COMES IN AND WILL CONTINUE THE CAMPUS AROUND AND WILL CONTINUE THE URBAN EXPERIENCE IN PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AS YOU WALK SOUTH ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD THIS BE THE EXPERIENCE.

LET ME GO BACK ONE MORE TIME THIS IS EXISTING YOU CAN SEE THE TENNIS COURTS AND AS WE HAVE THE SPORTS CLUB GEOMETRICALLY CORRECT, HAS ALI AND VERTICALLY THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

THE NEXT WAIVER IN REGARD TO MAXIMUM BUILDING LENGTH.

THIS IS SUPER HELPFUL, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS BUT IS MORE SPECIFIC IN A RELATIONSHIP TO WAIVER NINE IN THE LEFT SIDE OF

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THAT'S REALLY INFLUENCING THE SPORTS CLUB.

ALL THE OTHER RESORT ROOMS YOU CAN SEE THEM LISTED THERE GOING DOWN THE ONE AT 289 THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE AT A MOMENT AND WE COMMITTED TO GO GREATER THAN THE 289.

HERE IS THE EXISTING FACILITY ALL EXISTING CONDITIONS.

YOU CAN SEE THE OCEAN HOUSE HERE THROUGH DV ARC ANTERIOR BOARD WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE ZONING AND NON- ZONING.

WE ONLY ENDED UP WITH 15 FEET BETWEEN THE FACILITIES AND WE HOPE THAT WOULD PROVIDE A FEW SHEDS AND WHAT WE FOUND IT DIDN'T GIVE THE BENEFIT THAT WE WANTED AND IT MADE THE CONSTRUCTION WAY MORE, KID. AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE, YOU CAN SEE WE PROVIDED WAY MORE TO ENHANCE VEHICULAR AGGRESSION EXPERIENCE AND IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ASSYRIA THEN WE HAVE A MASSIVE FORMAL LINE OF THE PEDESTRIAN COURT THAT WILL EXTEND FROM THE FOUNTAIN SO AS YOU CHECK INTO THE HOTEL OR WALKED ON THE ROAD 150-FOOT VIEW FOUR-DOOR WERE THERE WILL BE NO BUILDINGS ONLY LANDSCAPE ALL THE WAY TO THE DUNES IN THE SIDEWALK. IN ADDITION WE PUT THESE BUILDINGS TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE BETWEEN THE ROADS SO THE VIEW SHEDS CAN BE MORE MEANINGFUL AS YOU'RE WALKING ON PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD.

LET ME BACK UP ONE SIDE THIS WAS THE EXAMPLE OF THE GATEHOUSE NORTHERNMOST RESORT ON THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE 18 GREEN THIS IS EXAMPLE 289 FEET.

AS WE MOVE SOUTH AND KEEP GOING TO THE OTHER PROPERTY TO THE LAST PROPERTY HE WILL SEE SIMILAR, THE FITNESS CENTER AS IT STANDS TODAY AND THE ANTIQUATED BUILDING WILL PROVIDE WHAT THE MEMBERS AND THE GUESTS NEED TODAY IS ONLY 91 FEET ASKING FOR 205060 THAT THE FIRST RENDERINGS THAT YOU SAW.

OCEANFRONT LODGE IS NOT CHANGING WE SHOULD PUT A CHANGE IN THE WE DID NOT WANT TO CHANGE OCEANFRONT LODGE IT WILL CONTINUE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

AND THE BUILDING WILL HAVE NO CHANGE WITH THE PERSPECTIVE.

HERE IS EXISTING AERIAL OF THE LODGE AND THE PROPOSED SOW 256 FEET LODGE BUILDING NOT CHANGING AT ALL AND WERE NOT

ASKING FOR ANY INCREASE AT ALL. >> JUST TO WRAP UP JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE SETBACK FROM THE IS THE OR ZONE PIECE AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY OWN BY THE CORPORATION IN THE LAGOON AND BY THE WAY NO PLAN TO TAKE THIS EXISTING FOOTBRIDGE OUT BECAUSE IT SERVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THE OTHER DAY LAST MONDAY THERE WAS AN OF ENGINE OR REQUEST TO INCREASE THE BUILDING SETBACK BETWEEN THE CARLISLE BUILDING IN THIS BUILDING SO THAT IS BEING STUDIED NOW TO PROVIDE A 40-FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. WE DID INCREASE IN THE PUD TEXT DATED 91 WE INCREASED THE SIDE YARD SETBACK AGAINST THE BUILDING TO 10 FEET IT WAS AT 0 AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THE

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>> THE GUESTROOM SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TABLE WE LIST BY GUESTROOM NOT ROBERT UNDER NUMBERS OF EACH ROOM.

THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF QUARE FEET 235,000 THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE EXISTING GUEST ROOMS AND ABOUT 285,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE PROPOSED GUESTROOMS. THE GARAGE AND SURFACE PARKING IS 544,000 SQUARE FEET AND PROPOSING TO GO TO 700,000 SQUARE FEET.

REALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT 1.17 MILLION SQUARE FEET TO 1.67 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS HALF A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF ADDITIONAL SPACE. PEOPLE SAY HOW DO WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THE MAXIMUM IN THE TABLE IN THE BACK AND WE SAY IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION F AND THE PUD TEXT IS IS THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO THE BEAUTY ARE.

I'M SORRY I'M GOING TO FLIP MY PAGE.

TABLE AS ONE IT SETS FORTH THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESORT ROOMS IN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESORT SPACE WHEN WITHIN EACH OF THOSE PROPERTIES. WE ARE SAYING THAT MORE FOR THE PUBLIC THEN FOR YOUR BOARD BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE MORE OF AN EXPERT IN FIR AND ISR BUT WE WANTED TO BE ON THE RECORD IN SOCIAL MEDIA HAS TALKING ABOUT A MILLION EXTRA SQUARE FEET AND THAT SIBLEY NOT TRUE. WITH THAT BEING SAID I'M GOING TO LET HER COME UP AND TALK YOU THROUGH TRAFFIC AND THEN WE WILL

TRY TO GET WRAPPED UP. >> GOOD AFTERNOON BOARDMEMBER FOR THE RECORD LINDSAY LAND PLANNER 14775 ALLSTATE AUGUSTINE

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WE ARE SIGNIFICANT THAT WE ACCESS THE SEGMENTS BUT WE DO NOT CAUSE THE SEGMENTS TO FAIL. WE ESSENTIALLY PUT OURSELVES THROUGH CONCURRENCY REVIEW FOR THOSE ELEMENTS AND TIED TO THE SITE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS AND CONTRACTION BY REVIEW.

TO FOCUS THIS BRINGS US FORWARD AND GIVES US COMING OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS COMMITTED FOR EXISTING TRIPS ONTO THE SEGMENT IN OUR PROJECT TRAFFIC SHOWING THE AMOUNT OF HOW THE BOULEVARD FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE AREA OF THE COUNTY.

THIS BRINGS IN BY CORONA THE ACCESS PORTION AT POLY B JERK BOULEVARD AND THE CAPACITY STANDPOINT AND THE BOULEVARD CAN HANDLE OUR TRIPS IN ADDITION THAT COULD BE PERMITTED ONTO THE BOULEVARD. ONE OF THE INTERESTING FACTORS THIS PARTICULAR USE IS UNLIKE OTHERS THAT WE NORMALLY SEE AS FAR AS SHOPPING CENTER COMMERCIAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL THIS IS RESORT BASE USES, THE SLIDE IS SHOWING ACTUAL TRAFFIC THAT WE TOOK IN 2021 THE PRIOR SLIDE IS CURRENT DATA WE GET PROJECTIONS OF 2023 WITH COUNTY DATA AND WE DID A SNAPSHOT TO SHOW HOW THE PEAK HOUR IS HITTING AND WE SEE THAT WITH AN AFTERNOON SECTION IN THE PEAK HOUR 15 MINUTE INCREMENTS OVER THE 24 HOUR PERIOD TO TIE BACK IN HOW WE TIE TRIPS TO MEASURE IN THE AFTERNOON PEAK HOUR. RESORT AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARRIVED TO THE SITE AND THEY STAY OVER COURSE OF TWO OR THREE DAYS WHEN THEY ARRIVE AT 10:00 A.M. AND THEY CHECK OUT AT 3:00 P.M. AND YOU'RE MISSING BOTH PEAKS THAT YOU SEE MEASURED AT THE DATA. THIS USE IS VERY SPECIFIC AND DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE PM PEAK HOUR THAT WE LOOK FOR CAPACITY. HOPEFULLY THIS PROVIDES ANALYSIS SPECIFIC TO THIS USE AND HOW IT FUNCTIONS WHEN YOU ARRIVED AND STAYED A COUPLE DAYS IN THE PEAK HOUR WHEN ALL OF US ARE LIVING OUR LIVES GOING TO AND FROM WORK AND CHANNELING HIS BACK-AND-FORTH THAT WERE MOVING TOGETHER THE P.M. TIME.

WITH THAT ACT INCLUDES ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE PUD PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> LINDSAY, REALLY QUICKLY CHECK-IN AND CHECKOUT TIME?

>> SPECIFIC TO THE RESORT WE CHECK IN AT 10:00 A.M. OFF OF

THE A.M. PEAK. >> WE CHECK IN AT THREE AND WE

CHECKOUT AT 10. >> THANK YOU.

WE CHECK IN AT THREE AND WE CHECKOUT AT 10:00 A.M.

>> WE WANTED TO GET THAT CORRECT FOR THE RECORD.

AGAIN YOUR BOARD'S PURVIEW WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU RESPECTFULLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PUD TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION INCLUDING THE WAIVERS FROM THE APPLICABLE LAND OF ELEMENT CODE WHICH ALL OF YOU KNOW WAIVERS ARE PART OF PUD'S SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE THE PUD IN THE WAIVER.

WERE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS MR. CHAIRMAN YOUR

BOARD MAY HAVE. >> BEFORE WE GOING TO BOARD QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT HIS COUNTY STANDPOINT WITH ITEM STRUCTURES.

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>> GOOD MORNING AGENCY BEN PAULSON WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT. THE WAIVER FOR BUILDING HEIGHT IS CONTROVERSIAL OR THE ONE THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT THE MOST AND PERHAPS WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF UNDERSTANDING FROM OBSERVING IT THE APPLICANT'S NO THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND BOARD MEMBERS AND AGENCY MEMBERS NEED A REFRESHER.

MR. DAVIS DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB EXPLAINING ALL THE VARIABLES INVOLVED WITH THE BULLYING HEIGHT CONSIDERABLY MORE OBSTACLES WHEN YOUR OCEANFRONT IN THE VELOCITY ZONE FOR THE WAVES IN THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LIED SET BY THE DEP AND THEN THE COUNTY REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS ON THAT AS WELL. WE ARE ADOPTING THE FEMA REQUIREMENTS BUT WE GET TO FEET ABOVE THAT WITH REBAR IT'S OUR ADDITIONAL ACQUIREMENT TO BE ON THE OCEAN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN A NECK SHADED ZONE AROUND THE COUNTY WE DON'T APPLY BUT IF YOU'RE IN A E, AO AND AH IS 1 FOOT IN IT SO HAPPENS THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE ON THE OCEANFRONT SO THERE DE MINUTES TO FOOT.

ACTUALLY BRINGS UP A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLICATION FOR BUILDING.

>> WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN FREE BOARD I KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT

WOULD YOU EXPLAIN. >> IT'S AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER OF REGULATORY ELEVATION AND THE ACTUAL ELEVATION THAT FEMA SAYS.

IT IS ABOVE OR ABOVE THE COUNTIES ELEVATION WHAT FEMA SAYS OF THE REQUIREMENT SO WE GET CREDIT AS A COMMUNITY FOR APPLYING ADDITIONAL BUFFER ON TOP OF WHAT FEMA OR ANOTHER AGENCY WOULD HAVE AS PART OF OUR IN FIP RATING SYSTEM ARE SERIOUS READING PROGRAM WE GET INSURERS DISCOUNT AS A WHOLE FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR HAVING THE ADDITIONAL BUFFER.

>> IN FEMA SAYS IN ELEVATION HAS TO BE 15.

>> THERE IS AN OUTLIER IF ESTATE IS HIGHER.

LET'S SAY FEMA SAYS 13 IN THE COUNTY SINCE 15 IN THE WAVE PRESS FOR THE CC CL IS 17 THEN YOU HAVE TO BE A 17.

WE DON'T APPLY A PRE-BOARD ON TOP OF DEP BUT VERY RARELY IS THAT OVER FEMA BUT ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA PONTE VEDRA AREA IS A LITTLE MORE SENSITIVE TO WAVE ACTION THAN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY ESPECIALLY A LITTLE BIT IN ANESTHESIA ISLAND IS PROTECTED WHERE THE HOMES ARE SET BACK QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE FROM OCEAN LINE. BUT ON THE BOULEVARD UNFORTUNATELY MORE OBVIOUS IN THE NORTH BEACH AREA WITH HOMES RIGHT ON IT AND PRETTY OBSERVABLE HAZARD RIGHT THERE.

LET ME SHOW YOU THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN THIS FOR THE AGENCY AND AUDIENCE. MY APOLOGIES THE COLORS ARE WASHED OUT BUT THIS IS A CROSS-SECTION THAT GOES ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT MR. DAVIS WAS SHOWING HAD THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS I DON'T HAVE THAT I CREATED THIS AND THINK OF AN X-RAY LOOKING AT THE FOUNDATION OF THE BUILDING MISSILE BE THE NATURAL ELEVATION WITH THIS LINE IN THE BUILDING BEADED OCEANFRONT WILL BE SUPPORTED ON PILINGS THAT THE REQUIREMENT AND HAVE IT ELEVATE THE BUILDINGS OFF THE GROUND AS A GENERAL REQUIREMENT YOU HAVE THE WAVE ACTION OVER HERE WITH THE 100 YEAR STORM ELEVATION. YOU HAVE YOUR REGULATORY REQUIREMENT WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE LOWEST HORIZONTAL STRUCTURAL MEMBER OF THE BUILDING SO WILL THE LOWEST OF THE BUILDING ON THE OCEANFRONT IS A GRADE BEAM ENTICED THE PILINGS TOGETHER TO THE STRUCTURAL FOR SYSTEM THAT CAN BE ELEVATED POTENTIALLY ABOVE GROUND IN THE STRUCTURAL FLOOR SYSTEM THE BOTTOM PLUS THE

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THIS ELEVATION FROM THE FIRST FLOOR THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR TO THE GRADE LESSON ELEVATION THAT COULD VERY AND 5 FEET OR SO WOULD NOT BE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE CAN LOOK AT HIS NUMBERS 10 FEET HERE AND WE KNOW THE GREATEST 10 FEET AND LET'S SAY FEMA SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE 12 FEET THE COUNTY SAYS 14 FEET IN THE STATE SAYS 15 FEET AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GO FROM THE GROUND LEVEL 10 UP TO THE BOTTOM AT 15 AND ANOTHER 3 FEET TO THE FINISH FLOOR. I COULD BE AN 8-FOOT DIFFERENCE FROM THE GROUND LEVEL TO THE FLOOR.

THOSE ARE GENERIC NUMBERS THIS IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE THAT HELPS CLARIFY WHERE SHOWING THE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM AND OF COURSE UNBILLABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

>> IS A COUNTY CHANGING REGULATIONS AS FEMA OR DEP CHANGES THERE'S. I KNOW YOU RECOGNIZE THEM AND THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED AND YOU DON'T TRY TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM BUILDING TO HI, I GET THAT BUT ARE YOU FOLLOWING ALONG I KNOW THESE THINGS HAVE CHANGED QUITE CURRENTLY OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS AS I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AND THE CITY IS CONSTANTLY TRIED TO KEEP UP WITH THEM AND IS CURIOUS HOW THE COUNTY IS MAKING IT SIMPLE FOR THE DEVELOPER OR THE BUILDER OR THE HOMEOWNER IN A REGULAR RESIDENT WANTS TO BUILD THE HOUSE THAT TO

FOLLOW THE SAME ORDER. >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE AWARE OF. WITH CLIMATE CHANGE POTENTIALLY AT SEA LEVEL THAT SOMETHING THE COUNTY IS AWARE OF THE MORE REGULATORY DIRECTION COMES IN FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL IT'S SOMETHING WE ADHERE TO SO THE 2-FOOT BOARD THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ON TOP OF ANY FEMA NUMBER SO THAT SAY FEMA SAYS IT'S 12 AND 10 YEARS AS A 14 THE COUNTY WILL AUTOMATICALLY SAY WERE AT 16. WE BUILD OFF OF WHATEVER IS ESTABLISHED ELEVATION THEY PROVIDE US.

WERE NOT SETTING ELEVATION WERE DISPELLED ENOUGH OF FEMA OR THE DEP WHEN THEY DO THEIR STATE ANALYSIS.

>> HOW WOULD THIS BE DIFFERENT THAN THE HOMEOWNER COMING IN WANTING TO BUILD A THREE-STORY RESIDENT.

>> IT WOULD BE SIMILAR THEY WOULD USE THE SAME PARAMETERS AND VARIABLES FOR THE DESIGN THE ONLY DIFFERENCE FOR A HOMEOWNER IF WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING LOOKING AT THE THICKNESS OF THE PILE CAP IN THE STRUCTURAL FORCES THEM IT WILL BE QUITE A BIT SMALLER AND NOT AS MUCH MEAT THINK ABOUT THE FIRST COMMERCIAL BUILDING YOU WILL HAVE A LITTLE LESS DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN BETWEEN GROUND-LEVEL AND THE FINISH FOR THE NEW WOOD OF THE COMMERCIAL VOTING AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE COMMERCIAL

BUILDING TO BE HIGHER. >> THE RESIDENT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE DEP REQUIREMENT LESS THE THICKNESS OF WHAT THE ENGINEERS ARE SAYING REQUIRED FOR RESTRUCTURE.

>> THAT PLAYS HAVOC WITH RESIDENTIAL AND FROM YOUR FINISHED FLOOR TO THE GROUND-LEVEL THAT COUNTS.

LET'S SAY YOUR BUILDING HAS TO BE 10 FEET IN THE AIR TO MEET THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT ONLY LEAVES 25 FEET OF ACTUAL

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A SEPARATION OR. >> YES OR.

>> FROM THE TWO SIDES OF THE BUILDING.

>> YES OR. >> THE PARKING GARAGE APPEARS TO BE CLOSER, CLOSER, CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WHAT IS THE EAST-WEST

DISTANCE OF THOSE TWO. >> IT IS APPROXIMATELY

20 - 25 FEET. >> SO THE DISTANCE FROM YOU TO MS. SMITH MAY BE A 2 FEET LONGER.

>> YOU CAN BE A BIT FURTHER THAN THAT.

I'M JUST ESTIMATING I WOULD PREFER TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT

NUMBER. >> THAT TELLS ME WHAT I NEED TO

KNOW. >> YOU CAN SEE THE DEPTH OF THE ANGLE PARKING STALLS IT IS VERY FAINT ON THE SCREEN BUT LOOKING AT THE STALLS 19-FOOT DEPTH BY ANGLE SO THAT EFFECTIVELY 17 FEET IF YOU'RE HEADING STRAIGHT EAST-WEST AND IS A BIT FURTHER THAN THAT. I'M ESTIMATING 20 - 2050 TO BE

CONSERVATIVE. >> THE CARLISLE HAS BALCONIES ON THE OUTSIDE IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.

>> THEY HAVE EAST ON WEST AND WINDOWS ON THE SOUTH FAÇADE.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ROOF LINE JUST OUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHITE FLAT ROOF AND YOU COULD SEE THE MARK ON HERE.

IS THERE A LASER THERE. >> THE CARLISLE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW CAN LOOK AT THEIR WINDOW AND LOOK AT THE SOUTHEASTERLY DIRECTION AND IT WILL BE THE LAST 20 FEET THAT WILL HAVE SKEWED VIEW OF THE GARAGE AND THE REST MIGHT HAVE A LESS SECURED VIEW BY THE NEW BUILDING WILL BE SHORTER OR THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME THE HEIGHT ALLOWED IS THE SAME FOR THE WHOLE THING 55 FEET SIMILAR TO THE CARLISLE.

>> THE CURRENT BUILDING WITH THE REC CENTER.

>> I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW HOW TALL THE FITNESS LODGES.

>> IS NOT VERY TALL PROBABLY 20 FEET MAXIMUM.

MUCH LOWER EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING WOULD ALLOW THAT TO BE TALLER AND CURSOR UNDER CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

>> I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION WE HAVE A PICTURE IT WAS NOT VERY PRETTY AND THE LAGOON IS ON A STORMWATER POND.

>> I'M GOING TO LET MR. DAVIS SINCE HIS ENGINEER ANSWER THAT.

>> WHEN YOU SAY THE LAGOON YOU MEAN THE LODGE.

>> THE LAGOON THAT SITS BEHIND THE CARLISLE THAT IS AN

EXTENSION OF THE LAWANDA. >> YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR

MAINTAINING THE LAWANDA. >> IS ALSO PROPERTY IN ST. LUCIE'S RESPONSE WILL FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE THEM QUESTIONS.

>> I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS, THE PARKING GARAGE IN THE FITNESS CENTER ABOUT 55 FEET, IS THAT

CORRECT. >> MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR THE GARAGE

IS CENTERED AT 55 FEET. >> DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CARLISLE SETBACK IS HIS OR HER PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

>> THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF THE BUILDING FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TODAY AND LOOKING FOR THE INFORMATION AND I HOPE I CAN

PROVIDED TO YOU SHORTLY. >> THE FITNESS CENTER PARKING GARAGE IS THE SAME ROOF ELEVATION.

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>> MR. GREEN TO THAT POINT MR. MARK'S RENDERING OF THE FITNESS FACILITY THAT HE JUST TALKED ABOUT ARE IN EXHIBIT D IN THEIR PART OF THE PACKAGE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

>> ANYTHING ELSE HENRY. >> I MAY COME BACK AFTER EVERYTHING AND JUST TRY TO PICTURE IN MY MIND WHAT THEY'RE

TRYING TO DO. >> THANK YOU.

>> WHAT WAS THE 40-FOOT SETBACK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

>> LAST WEEK AT PONTE VEDRA IN THE ADJUSTMENT BOARD ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SAID ASKED THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THERE COULD BE A DISTANCE ON THE EDGE OF THE CAR CARLISLE BUILDING A BUILDING TO STUDENTS BETWEEN THE CARLISLE IN THE CLOSENESS OF THIS BUILDING SO WE ARE TAKING A UNDER SERIOUS CONSIDERATION BECAUSE OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE PEOPLE THE CARLISLE.

>> IN OTHER WORDS THE CARLISLE'S ITSELF OF THE BOUNDARY.

MR. DAVIS WILL GET THAT FROM THE CARLISLE BUT THE BUILDING IS ABOUT 10 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND I'LL HAVE TO CALL THAT ON YOUR SEPARATION FOR THE MOST PART SO WILL GET THE INFORMATION BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE HEARING.

>> IS NOT IN THE TEXT AS IT STANDS.

NOT TODAY TODAY WAS MENTIONED WE SET ON THE RECORD WE WOULD TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT THAT OUT OF RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE OF THE CARLISLE AND I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD SINCE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CARLISLE WE ARE TO WHAT IS CALLED THE PALMER BUILDING FROM 55 FEET TO 30 FEET IN RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY COMMENTS IN THE EXISTING LODGE BUILDING BETWEEN 43 FEET IN HEIGHT OF 57 FEET IN HEIGHT WE BUILT INTO THE PUD TEXT THAT THE STAY THE SAME AND THOSE WHO ARE IN THE PUD TEXT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU DATED SEPTEMBER 1 SO WE READY MADE SESSIONS TO BUILDING HEIGHT RELATED TO THE CARLISLE AND THE FOLKS WHO LIVE BACK IN THIS COMMUNITY HERE ACROSS THE LAGOON.

>> VERY GOOD. QUESTIONS?

>> NEVER GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES.

MR. WHITEHOUSE WHY DON'T YOU COME UP FIRST.

>> AFTERNOON MR. CHAIRMAN. AGENCY MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD JAMES WHITEHOUSE 1040 MAIN STREET HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY I AM THE BOARD-CERTIFIED EXPERT IN CITY COUNTY LOCAL GOVERNMENT LAW. AS YOU KNOW I'M ON BEHALF OF THE CARLISLE CONDOMINIUM THEM OF THE 42ND OWNERS WITHIN THE CONDOMINIUM IT'S A LOVELY UPSCALED CONDOMINIUM THEM AT 600 BOULEVARD AND AS I SAID 47 UNITS WITHIN THE CONDOMINIUM IT WAS BUILT IN 1995 AND THE LOCATION LET'S LOOK AT THE VICINITY MAP AND THIS IS THE LODGE PROPERTY, AS YOU KNOW TWO VERY DIFFERENT

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THE CARLISLE CONDOMINIUM FROM THE OCEAN IS SURROUNDED BY THE LANDS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR PUD ON THE SOUTH END OF WHAT THEY CALL THE LODGE PROPERTY AND IS PUD THIS IS ONE OF THEIR MAPS WITHIN THEIR CODE AND IN THE AREA SURROUNDED BY THE PARTICULAR AREAS OF PROPOSAL SOME OF THE CURRENT SCENIC VISTA AT THE CARLISLE FROM THE WEST TO EAST AS YOU CAN SEE ON BOTH SIDES THERE IS OPEN AREAS IN THE ZONING CODE REQUIRES CERTAIN HEIGHTS AND DISTANCES IN SOME OF THOSE ARE CONTRAVENED BY THE PROPOSAL HERE'S ANOTHER SCENIC VISTA LOOK TOWARDS A LARGE PROPERTY ON THE OCEAN THIS IS CORONA AT ONE OF THE WINDOWS LOOKING EASTWARD IN THE CURRENT HEIGHT THIS IS CORONA AND THE BOULEVARD LOOKING AT THE LODGE AND THIS IS AN AREA LOOKING AT THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND THE PALMER BUILDING IN THE CARLISLE TO THE BOTTOM IN THE PALMER PROPERTY WHERE YOU SEE THE PALMER BUILDING SETBACK LIKE THE OTHER HOUSES AND BUILDINGS ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD.

HERE IS THE PICTURE ITSELF AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.

HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE REDEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS LOOKING AT ONE OF THE UNITS IN THE CARLISLE LOOKING ITSELF AT THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY WANT TO HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSING FOR THE FIFA BUILDINGS HERE'S THE ROOF LOOKING IN THE SAME AREA OF THE PARKING LOT IS IN THE PARKING STRUCTURE ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY THIS IS THE NBP MAP THAT THEY SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION OF THE PROPERTY HERE THIS IS THEIR NBP MAP THIS IS THEY SAY THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THEY DON'T SHOW YOU ANY SPECIFICITY OF WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE THEY SAY THEY DO BUT THEY DON'T, THEY SHOW YOU PICTURES AND THEY SAY THIS IS WHERE THEY COULD BE IN THE CHAIRMAN'S ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY FEET FROM HERE TO HERE THAT IS FINE AND GOOD BUT THOSE ARE DEPICTIONS OF CONCEPTUAL BUILDING DESIGN THOSE ARE NOT NBP MAPS AS YOU USUALLY SEE WHICH ARE SCALED BY ENGINEERS AS YOU KNOW THE MAPS ARE NOT SCALED BY ENGINEERS AND THEY DON'T SHOW WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE TO BE ON THE PROPERTY. YOU SEE MAPS WITH BUBBLE AREAS BUBBLE AREAS SAYING WE RESTRICTED THE HEIGHT AND WE HAVE HEIGHT ZONES THEY SAY 55 FEET LOOK AT THE AREA WITH 5.

IN OTHER WORDS THEY SAID WE CHANGE THE SETBACK FROM 5 - 10 BUT THEY DID NOT SAY WHERE THE BUILDINGS GOING TO BE THEY SHOWED YOU A PICTURE BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WHERE HAS TO BE.

THE DEPICTIONS AND CONCEPTUAL BUILDING AND PRETTY PICTURES FOR THE WHOLE FIRST PART OF THE APPLICATION SHOW PICTURES OF BUILDINGS AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY SHOW YOU THE PICTURE AND THEY WANT YOU TO ASSUME WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE NOTHING ON THE NBP MAP THE REQUIRES IT THERE.

AS I SAID THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 55-FOOT STRUCTURE ANYWHERE ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY THIS IS ARIEL AND THIS IS WHERE THE 55-FOOT PROPERTY COULD GO ANYWHERE ON THIS PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AS I SAID THESE ARE THE VIEWS LOOKING AWAY IN THE DIRECTION AND IF THEY HAVE A 10-FOOT SETBACK IT COULD GO ALL THE WAY APPEAR, 10 FOR ON THE SIDE THAT COULD GO ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE SIDE HERE TO THE 10 FOR THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE WHOLE PROPERTY COULD BE A 55-FOOT STRUCTURE AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE RATIO. THESE ARE THE PICTURES THAT THEY SHOWED WHETHER 5 FEET OR 10 FEET ON THE SIDE AND WHETHER THESE PROPERTIES ARE TO BE RIGHT HERE IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE IT UNDULY AFFECTS THESE PEOPLES AREA ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE CARLISLE CONDOMINIUM. LET'S TAKE A MINUTE TO LOOK AT THE PALMER BUILDING. ON THE PALMER BUILDING SITE AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW OR DON'T KNOW IT REQUIRES BUILDINGS AND

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THE ASCII DUE TO THEIR APPROVAL GENERAL THEY GET APPROVAL OF THE LANGUAGE THEY IMPROVE TO SAY LET US HAVE 55 AND WILL REDUCES THE 35 THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE ONLY ALLOWED 35 AND I WANT TO GO TO THIS IT SHOWS YOU IN THE PONTE VEDRA CODE MAX BUILDING HEIGHT SHALL BETWEEN 5 FEET WHERE THE BUILDING IS LOCATED LESS THAN 150 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY, GUESS WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIALLY ZONED.

GUESS HOW MANY FEET THE CURRENT PALMER BUILDIG IS FROM THE RESIDENTIALLY ZONED, 70 FEET FOR AND THAT I PUT ON HERE WERE 50 FEET IS ON THE RED LINE AND 150 FEE IS HERE, UNDER THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING CODE THEY CAN ONLY HAVE 25-FOOT BUILDINGS EVERYWHERE TO THE NORTH OF THE D ALSO NO GREATER THAN ONE STORY LOCATED 50 FEET FROM RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY SO EVERYTHING ON THE SIDE OF THE REDLINE TO THE NORTH COULD ONLY BE ONE STORY CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ASKING YOU FOR A 5-FOOT SETBACK AND ANY PROPERTY ANYWHERE SO THEY CAN BUILD THE BUILDING AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE RATIO ANYWHERE ON THE 5-FOOT PROPERTY LINE AND 10-FOOT ON THE BACK THEREFORE THE CURRENT REGULATION OF THE ZONE AND CODE. YOU DON'T SEE THAT IN ANY OTHER WAIVERS BECAUSE HIS LANGUAGE WITHIN THE POD.

THE EGG. WE COULD HAVE A POD MVP MAP WHICH YOU GUYS WOULD BE REQUIRED ANY OTHER APPLICANT THAT CAME IN HERE WITH AN APPLICATION TO SHOW YOU A SCALE DRAWING OF WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE TO BE ON THE PROPERTY.

AS I SAID THESE ARE REASONABLE UNDENIABLE INTEREST CONCERNS BY THE 47 OWNERS OF THE CONDOMINIUMS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1995 WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE MOST IMPOSSIBLE TO EVALUATE THE REQUESTED ARCHITECTURE DESIGN MASSIVE SCALE AND THE PROPERTY OF THE CARLISLE CONDOMINIUM WHICH IS SURROUNDED. I'M NOT QUITE TO TALK A ABOUT TE WAIVERS BUT YOU KNOW THE STANDARD FOR WAIVERS IN THE STANDARD THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSD TO BE IMPROVE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE AND WITH THE SPIRIT INTENDED TO THE CODE THROUGH OTHER MEANS AND WE WOULD ASSERT THAT THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT AND THEIR ALLEGED JUSTIFICATION JUST FOR THE ONE WAIVER AS TO HEIGHT THEY SAY THE JUSTIFICATION BY THE APPLICANT FOR THIS WAIVER BECAUSE THE EXISTING LODGE BUILDING IS A PROXIMALLY 43 FEET IN HEIGHT WITH THE TOP OF 57 FEET.

WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU I THINK 70 JUST AS PREVIOUSLY WHAT ARE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING ON THIS BEACH CLUB FOR THE POOL AND GYM RESORT HOTEL FOR THE LODGE RIGHT NOW THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ABOUT 25 FEET, YOU HEARD THAT FROM THEM AND CURRENTLY THEIR SITUATION BACK HERE IS A PARKING LOT NOW THEY WANT TO PUT A 55-FOOT PARKING STRUCTURE BLOCKING ALL THE USE TO KUAN AND THE TREES INTO THE SOUTH FROM THE PARTICULAR RESIDENCE.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND BASED ON THE VAGUE DESCRIPTIONS THAT YOU RECOMMEND DENIAL AS SUBMITTED IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE THAT AND SHOW US WHERE THESE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE IN IF THEY WANT TO GET A REAL MVP MAP MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER AND HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT BUT SAYING THE STAFF IS GOING TO APPROVE IT WITH FIVE OR 10-FOOT SETBACKS AND THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE ON THE PROPERTY IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

I'VE CITED A FEW OF THE AREAS AND YOU DON'T SEE THOSE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FOR 5050301D AND 50302D TALKS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AND ONE TALKS ABOUT FACILITATING AND MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT THE CARLISLE IS A SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

AGAIN WE WOULD ASK YOU TO MAKE THIS MOTION BASED ON THE CURRENT REQUEST DUE TO THE LACK OF SPECIFICITY AND LACK OF SPECIFICITY WAS OUTLINED BOTH PIR AND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL THE PUD THE CURRENT REQUEST DOES NOT PROVIDE PROTECTION OF THE ADJACENT USES AND THEREFORE DOES NOT MEET THE PUD REQUIREMENT INCLUDED THE WAIVER CRITERIA FOR THE ANTEBELLUM CODE. WE ASK YOU TO SINCERELY CONSIDER THE CARLISLE MEMBERS AND NO SWELLS OR RIGHTS, THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> DON'T DO THAT AGAIN OR I'LL

CLEAR THE ROOM. >> WHAT IS THE HEIGHT.

>> GOT ANOTHER ANSWER TO THAT. >> OKAY WHO DO WE HAVE UP NEXT.

>> DOUG BARNETT. >> MR. BARNETT.

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PEOPLE HERE TO CLEAR YOU OUT. >> DOUG BARNETT SEE GROVE MAIN STREET. ALL.

IT WASN'T OUR COMPLICATION, THAT WAS FIVE IT ALSO WENT TO PAY ZAP AND WENT 4 - THREE TO THE POD. THE WAIVER VOTE ONLY DISTRACTS A RECOMMENDATION MAKE NO MISTAKE THE RECOMMENDATION BUT THESE ARE IN PAGE 26 OF THE STAFF REPORT AND NOT ONLY COVERED LIKE YOU WOULD EXPECT BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS THIS IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT REZONING AND 30 YEARS AND PONTE VEDRA WERE SITTING HERE TODAY AND YOU SHOULD CONTINUE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS INCLUDING NOT STARTING AT 11 VERSUS 130 WE LOOK AT THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND SAID THIS MEETING WILL START AT 130, THERE'S CONFLICTING INFORMATION VERSUS WHAT THE AGENDA SAYS THEN YOU HAVE NOT ALL SEVEN AS SIGNIFICANT AS THIS.

THERE'S OVERWHELMING CITIZEN OPPOSITION OBVIOUSLY AND YOU HEARD THAT THIS MORNING ALREADY BEFORE I GOT APPEAR IT'S INTERESTING, THIS IS NOT PROGRESS, THIS IS THE LODGE AND YOU GOTTA TAKE DIFFERENT THINGS THERE MIXED IN WITH RESIDENTIAL AND NON- BIG AREAS SURROUNDED MIDDLE OF ALL THE RESIDENTS IN IT'S INTERESTING THE PUD ATTEMPTS TO AMEND THE COMP PLAN I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE, IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR MAP AND I APPLY THIS POLICY TO THE COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND YOU MAKE THIS AREA COMMERCIAL THEREAT ACROSS TOUCH.

ON THE OTHER MAP THEY SAY WE WANT TO PLAY THIS POLICY HERE AND WE WANT TO TAKE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS AREA COMMERCIAL. I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS DONE BEFORE. WHEN THEY SAY IN THE PUD WE WANT YOU TO MAKE THIS INTERPRETATION WHEN DOES THIS INTERPRETATION EVER BE PAID A RELATES TO BOUNDARY LINES, TOPO GRAPHICAL FEATURES, SPECIAL ISSUES, NONE OF IT APPLIES BUT THEY HAVE IN THE PUD FOR YOU TO MAKE THIS INTERPRETATION AS PART OF YOUR APPROVAL. IT PREVENTS THIS, THE COMP PLAN IS CURRENTLY BEING VIOLATED FUTURE LAND USE IS BEING VIOLATED AND WHY IS THE LODGE A PART OF THE PUD AND SOME ARE SEPARATED COMPACTED THIS IN A MINUTE TO EXPLAIN THEIR ATTEMPTING TO AMEND THE COMP PLAN AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF COMMENTS ONLINE THIS WAS DONE TO THE PUD STAFF ENTERED A COMMENT THAT THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THIS, THEY DON'T AGREE WITH INTERPRETATION OF THE POLICY BUT HERE WE ARE AND THERE'S OTHER REASONS IT VIOLATES, PLAN IF YOU LOOK AT ISR AND YOU COULD SEE VERY CLEARLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THERE IS A PROBLEM IS IS HOTEL, MOTEL AND CLUB FACILITIES IN RESIDENTIAL D IS LIMITED TO 50%. THAT IS A PROBLEM.

HERE WE ARE WITH THE WAIVER YOU LOOK AT THE PUD TEXT COMP PLAN PROVISIONS CAN BE WAIVED BUT THEY HAVE THAT IN THERE.

LET'S LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE IS NO TRAFFIC STUDY THESE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO TRAFFIC ON THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT, THERE IS NO FUTURE PBR REVEALED THEY DON'T WANT THIS TO GO BACK TO PBR YOUR STAFF IN THE COMMENT SAID THEY SHOULD GO BACK TO PBR THERE IS NO WAY THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED WITHOUT GOING BACK TO PBR.

ABOUT THE SOCIAL INFORMATION IN THE CLAIMANT'S PROPRIETARY BUT YOU HAVE 31 WAIVERS WHERE IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE WAIVERS.

IF THEY GET THE WAIVERS OF PROOF THEY NEED TO SUPPORT THE PARKING NEED, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT REALLY DO THEY NEED FOR PARKING AND WHAT DO THEY ANTICIPATE THEIR MEMBERSHIP GROWING TO WEIRD YOU KNOW THERE'S PARKING CHALLENGES AT THE SITE.

OVER THE WHAT IS THE STANDARD. IN THE PV OVERLAY THERE IS A STANDARD WHAT'S INTERESTING THEY WENT TO THE PIVOT ACT AND THEY SAID ONLY THESE WAIVERS APPLY WE WANT YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF THE OVERALL ALEXANDER GREAT OUT WAIVERS DON'T FLY BUT WHAT YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF OVERALL PUD SOMEBODY'S GOING TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL PUD IN THE REQUEST TO MAKE ABOUT ON THE ENTIRE PUD AND PART OF THE WAIVER IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THEM TO SHOW THIS IS INTERESTING YOU WILL NOT FIND US IN THE STAFF REPORT WERE IN THEIR PUD THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY MEET THE SIX CRITERIA IN THEIR COMPLEMENTARY AND SUPPORIVE OF

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THERE IS NO DETAILED MVP MAP. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SEE ON THE MAP, WHERE THEY CAN HAVE DUMPSTERS, WHERE IS HER DRAINAGE EVERYTHING THAT YOU NORMALLY HAVE ON THE MAP THEY ARE NOT SHOWING IT. FUTURE LAND USE IS NOT EVEN SHOWN THAT AS A BASE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU ON A PUD IF I DID NOT HAVE THE LAND YOU SHOWN ON THE MVP MAP, THEY ARE CONFUSING AND HIGHLY UNUSUAL WITH THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE AND EXPAND NONCONFORMING IN THE PRETTY PICTURES THAT YOU SEE ALL THE PRETTY PICTURES THAT ARE IN THEIR PRESENTATION THEY ARE NOT IN THE MAP THEY'RE NOT SHOWING YOU ON THE MAP WHERE THAT IS.

THE NOT GIVING ANY SPECIFICS NO SPECIFIC.

WILL SHOW YOU THAT IN A MINUTE MANY WAIVERS STAFF REPORT THAT ONLY 16 IN HERE WE WENT 30 IN THE PUD, WHY SO MANY THERE MISSING WAIVERS AND THE REGULATIONS ARE NOT EVEN ADDRESSING IT. AND IF YOU PUT IN WAIVER SHOULD HAVE TO BE THE VARIANCE WAIVER, THESE WAIVERS VIOLATE.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE WAIVERS THE COUNTY CAN DENY FOR ANY REASON. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT, THE PUD CAN BE DENIED FOR ANY REASON FOR THE ABSENTEE WAIVERS.

THERE IS NO LIMIT ON PARKING GARAGES YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING GARAGES AND MR. WHITEHOUSE FOLLOWED UP ON THAT THERE IS NO ACCOUNT PARKING GARAGES, THEN MEASURING THE SQUARE FEET OF THE PARKING GARAGES THEY DON'T COUNT AGAINST ANY ENTITLEMENTS THEY COULD HAVE UNLIMITED NUMBER OF PARKING GARAGES, UNLIMITED NUMBER OF PARKING GARAGES ANYWHERE THEY WANT. MAKE NO MISTAKE THERE'S NO DETAILED THE PLAN. WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE VIEW FROM CARLISLE YOU ARE SO WERE ANALYZING THE HOUSES BEYOND THE BUFFER TO WHAT THEY SEE FOR THE PARKING GARAGES THERE HAS TO BE A STOP TO THE EXPANSION OF THE PD RESORT THEY HAVE BEEN ADDING HOMES AND WANTED TO ADD HOMES TO THE PUD IN THE GOING TO DESTROY THEM ORIGINALLY IN DEMO FORWARD AND KEEP THEM AS RENTALS AND THERE WILL BE A MY UNDER MAJOR MEDICATION OF THE PUD IN THE FUTURE TO ADD THE HOUSES AND CONTINUE THE CONSTRUCTION NOW WHAT HAPPENS HOW FAR YOU NEED LET THEM EXPAND ARE THEY GOING TO FILL IN BECAUSE THE MORE THEY BUY FROM THE MORE THEY EXPAND THE MORE 20 DECREASE THE VALUES OF PROPERTIES.

A BLOCKING OCEANFRONT VIEWS AND DUMPSTERS WHEREVER THEY WANT PICKLE BAR COURTS THEY COULD BUT WHEREVER THEY WANT WE KNOW WHAT THEY SOUND LIKE THE WONDERFUL WE LOVE THEM BUT THIS ON HORRIBLE IF YOU LIVE NEXT DOOR. 35:00 P.M. TWO STORIES FROM ESTABLISHED GRADE THE WRITING THEIR OWN RULES THIS IS A NEW THING THEY WILL MEASURE FROM FEMA AND OUR HEIGHT CAN GO WHEREVER THEY WANT IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MASSIVE SCALE COMPARED TO A NORMAL HOUSE PRETTY FOR LOOK AT THE RESIDENCE 35 FEET WALL AND THE STONE WALL TAKES UP 35 FEET OF THE HEIGHT AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GOING TO MEASURE FROM FEMA ANOTHER FOUR, 6 FEET OF HEIGHT BEFORE THEY MEASURED 67PI HER 72 BUT I'M NOT SURE THE MEASUREMENT BUT THAT 6S ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT THE HOMEOWNER WOULD HAVE GO BACK TO MASSIVE SCALE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND THEY SAY THE PARK SHOULD REVIEW THE PROJECT IN THE FUTURE TALK ABOUT MASSIVE SCALE TAKE JACK'S BEATS UNDER BEACH AND WHAT'S UP THERE IF YOU LOOK AT ARCHITECTURAL PICTURES I WOULD SUBMIT THIS GWEN LODGE PROPERTY IS ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.

LET'S TAKE A MASSIVE SCALE LOOK THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER WHO HAS THIS NEXT TO THEM THAT NEVER HAD ANYBODY.

IN THE BACKYARD OR POOL THEIR HOME IS GOOD THE VALUE THIS IS A BOOK THAT HAS HIS DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE LESS CONCERNED OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING TO THE NEXT TOUR, WHERE THE CISCO WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE FROM FEMA'S ORGAN TO BUILD UP HIGHER IN THE RAINY GO TO THE NEW HEIGHT. WHERE DOES THIS STOP.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT COULD GO ON THE BOULEVARD THE DRAWINGS DON'T LOOK LIKE THERE DRAWINGS, DO THE RIGHT THING PUTTING IN THE CONTEXT OF THE STREET-LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT WE CAN SEE NOT ONE DRAWN VIDEO, LOOK AT THE DRUM VIDEO THEY DON'T GO FROM HOUSE TO

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IF YOU DRAG IT 5 FEET OFF THE ROAD WE COULD DO THAT WITH ALL THE BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA NOTICE THERE'S NO 150-FOOT THAT 150-FOOT SCENIC VISTA IS NOT THE PUD IS ON THE PRETTY PICTURE BUT NOT REQUIRED BY THE PUD THIS IS WHAT YOU GET A WALL OF BUILDINGS WHEN YOU LOOK AT MASSIVE SCALE AND IS 20 FEET BACK IN THE IN BUILDING HIS WAY BACK HERE PLUS 100 FEET ITS WAY BACK THERE WITH A LOW MASS IS WAY BACK THERE NOW YOU GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE STREET AND IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT YOU'RE IN THE LITTLE CAR GOING DOWN THE BORDER AND IF YOU APPLY THEN SAY DOUG THAT'S CRAZY LET'S LOOK AT THEIR BUILDING AND APPLY THAT TO ANOTHER VISUAL THIS IS WHAT WE COULD BE FACING WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON THE BOULEVARD. VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SEE

NOW. >> I KNOW I HAVE TO WRAP IT UP.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THE PUD WILL CONTROL AND THE CHALLENGE YOU HAVE ADAPTED THEY WILL BE TELLING THE COUNTY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE GIVEN UP ALL CONTROL FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS AND BY THE WAY THE 154-FOOT IS NOT THERE NO BINDING NOWHERE IN THE DOCUMENTS.

YOU CAN'T TAKE INTENT TO THE BANK, THEY INTEND THEY SAID THAT

OVER AND OVER AGAIN. >> YOU NEED TO WRAP UP.

>> NONE OF THE USUAL THINGS THAT WE WOULD SEE FOR STREET-LEVEL AND DOCUMENT, SHOW THE RESIDENCE WITH HER REALLY GETTING AND FINALLY UNDER THE LIVE VOCAL UNDER LOCAL ACT THEY COULD PUT A 57-FOOT TALL BUILDING WITHIN A MILE OF FEAR FOR FORMAL HOUSING I-UPPERCASE-LETTER ON A ONE-DAY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS OF THE LIVE LOCAL ACT BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE WILL ASK THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY GOT.

>> I APPRECIATE IT. >> MR. BARNETT TAKE A SEAT.

>> YOU GUYS TO SIGN THIS CHECK SPIRIT TO HAVE A QUESTION?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY. >> WHO'S NEXT WILLIAM HARRIS.

>> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN I HAVE A LETTER THAT GIVES ME SIX MINUTES OUT OF YOUR RULES AS A DESIGNATOR.

>> YOU ACTUALLY HAVE 10. >> TO GIVE VERY MUCH I'M TRYING NOT TO MAKE USE OF ALL THOSE I AM BILL HARRIS, I HAVE TWO ADDRESSES, ONE IS 600 FROM CARLISLE AND THE OTHER IS 19514TH STREET AND AM ORIGINALLY FROM JACKSONVILLE IN MY FAMILY WAS A MEMBER OF THE CLUB SINCE EARLY 1950S SO WE'VE BEEN AROUND HERE FOR A LONG TIME MY FAMILY AND MYSELF AND I HAVE MANY FAMILY MEMBERS THROUGHOUT PONTE VEDRA AND I WAS ABOUT TO SAY AYE SPENT HALF OF MY TIME MY WIFE AND I HEAR A PONTE VEDRA AND THE OTHER HALF STILL WORKING IN THE ATLANTA.

BY WAY OF INTEREST MR. CHAIRMAN I AM A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE CITY OF ATLANTA ZONING BOARD AND IN ADDITION TO THAT I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING IN LEE COUNTY FOR THE.

LEE COUNTY IS SANIBEL ISLAND. A BRING TO YOU A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE IN LAND USE MATTERS AND ZONING MATTERS.

I BRING THE EXPERIENCE INTO LEVELS.

I ENJOY AND BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESSES.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOOD COMMUNITY PLANNING THAT IS SOMETHING I BEEN DOING ALL MY LIFE AND I'M INTERESTED IN HAVE ANOTHER LEVEL OF INTEREST BECAUSE THEY LIVE AT THE CARLISLE I'VE HAD TO UNFORTUNATELY GET DRUG INTO THIS ON TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS ONE BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED IN GOOD

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I'M DISTURBED BY THIS PROCESS. I MUST TELL YOU I'VE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS EXPERIENCE OF SITTING IN YOUR SEEDS BUT I'M DISTURBED BY THIS PROCESS OR SENIOR VARIOUS BOARDS OVER TO MEETINGS SPEND HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS DISCUSSING AND LITIGATING IF YOU WILL THE PROPOSAL INTO MY OWN EXPERIENCE WHEN I SEE A PROPOSAL ABSORBING THE HOURS AND ATTENTION THAT THIS HAS FITTED TELLS ME THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, THERE ARE TOO MANY ISSUES FOR THE BOARDS TO HAVE TO DRIVE.

MY EXPERIENCE THAT THE TIME APPLICATION COMES TO MY BOARD THAT HAD BEEN VETTED THOROUGHLY BY STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.

BY THE TIME IT GETS TO AUGUST, THINGS HAVE BEEN VETTED PROPERLY AND YOU DON'T END UP SPENDING OUR AND OUR GOING THROUGH A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FOR WHICH UNFORTUNATELY THERE CONTRARY ANSWERS SO YOU END UP TODAY SETTING ASIDE TWO HOURS BECAUSE THIS APPLICATION IS FAR FROM READY FOR PRIME TIME FAR FROM READY FOR PRIME TIME. WHEN I LISTEN TO THE COUNCIL IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES I WAS IMPRESSED BY THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THE COUNTY REGULATION IN YOUR PROCEDURES AND THEY BROUGHT THEIR KNOWLEDGE TO THIS TABLE EXPLAINING THE MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS APPLICATION. MR. CHAIRMAN I'M GOING TO ASK YOU PLEASE, I DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT THOSE EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS HAD BROUGHT TO YOUR TABLE THIS MORNING.

I DO NOT WANT THEIR ISSUES WHICH I FIND TO BE SUBSTANTIVE TO BE IGNORED BY YOUR BOARD AND I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE AS A BOARD ADDRESS ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP AND YOU COULD SAY TO ME MR. HARRIS, THAT'LL TAKE US TO MIDNIGHT WHICH WILL BE UNFORTUNATE WE WOULD LOSE OUR AUDIENCE BY THEN.

THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY COUNSEL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. IT TAKES ME BACK THIS IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME. I'VE HAD LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF ISSUES BROUGHT TO OUR BOARD IN ATLANTA AND I BEEN SITTING IN YOUR SHOES MANY, MANY YEARS AND MORE THAN ONE TIME I'VE SENT AN APPLICANT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WHEN IT IS NOT READY AND I HAD THE APPLICANT'S I'M TALKING ABOUT 50 STORY BUILDINGS AND BIG DEVELOPMENTS, HUGE DEVELOPMENTS AND I HAD TO FORCE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS BACK TO WHERE THEY BEGIN IN THE APPLICANT, I'VE SEEN THIS SO MANY TIMES, MR. HARRIS DON'T SEND THIS BACK WE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE PROPOSAL AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY TIME TO DO THIS BECAUSE OUR CLOCK IS RUNNING WITH HER MORTGAGE BLOB LOBLAW I'VE HEARD IT A THOUSAND TIMES.

BUT THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK AND IT DESERVES MORE SCRUTINY.

PART OF THE SCREEN NEEDS TO BE FOR THE APPLICANT TO SIT DOWN WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I THINK THE DAYLIGHT BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE COMMUNITY I BELIEVE BASED ON ONCE AGAIN EXPERIENCE WORKING SO MANY ISSUES JUST LIKE THIS I BELIEVE THAT DAYLIGHT CAN BE BROUGHT TOGETHER AND WE CAN HAVE A BETTER APPLICATION IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE APPLICANT EVENTUALLY WILL BOTH BE PRODUCT. RIGHT NOW I TELL YOU WHAT NOBODY IS PROUD OF THIS. I'D BE SURPRISED DESPITE THE GLORIOUS PICTURE AND EVERYTHING I BE SURPRISED IF THE PATENT WOULD WALK AWAY FEELING GOOD ABOUT THIS IF THIS IS APPROVED RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THEY REALIZE AND THEY FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY REALIZE THERE IS A HIGH DEGREE AND CONCERN. I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL BAD

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I CAN TELL YOU IN ATLANTA I GO TO PARTS OF ATLANTA RIGHT NOW AND I SAY GOLLY, HOW THE WORLD DID WE APPROVE THAT, I DON'T WISH THAT ON ANYBODY THIS IS A VOLUNTARY BOARDS SUCH AS YOU WILL DO AND I DID FOR MANY YEARS.

I COULD GET INTO A LOT OF SPECIFICS.

BUT ADDITIONAL SPECIFICS BUT THE COUNCIL HAS NOT BROUGHT UP BUT I WILL TRY NOT TO TAKE ANY MORE TIME, LET ME SAY A FEW OTHER THINGS. AS WE WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF BOARDS MR. CHAIRMAN I HAVE A CONCERN FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN ONE OR MORE OF THE BOARDS I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF THING I SOMETIMES WILL ASK FOR CONSIDERATION TAKEN UP BY A BOARD IN ATLANTA AND ONE THINGS THAT I DO BEFORE WE ENTER INTO DELIBERATION I WILL ASK FORMALLY OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE THAT HAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST BEFORE WE START DELIBERATIONS PLEASE SAY SO AND RECUSE YOURSELF. THE REASON I BRING THIS UP, QUITE FRANKLY AS CONCERNED AS THEY WATCH THE DELIBERATION, I ASK THAT YOU MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPACT AND THE SITUATION. GAIT IS A BIG ORGANIZATION AND THEY EMPLOY A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE VERY GOOD TECHNICAL SOUTH COMMUNITY AND I HOPE YOU HAVE ANY CONFLICTS AS IS CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD. I WILL STOP THERE OTHER THAN I COULD CONTINUE ON AND ON BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL SITUATION AND I APPRECIATE THE CHAIR IN WHICH YOU ALL SET BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND AM ALSO GOING TO SAY ELLEN YOU LOVE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD FOR THE RECORD SEAN I WOULD LIKE

TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU. >> WOULD YOU ADDRESS THE BOARD

PLEASE. >> I WILL I APOLOGIZE MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME MENTION ONE OTHER THING I HAVE PICTURES OF THE INSIDE OF HER CONDOMINIUM AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHTS AND SETBACKS WE NEED TO FOCUS IN ON THAT.

RIGHT NOW IF I LOOKED OUT MY WINDOW AT THE BUILDING THE GARAGE IN THE SPORTS BUILDING THAT WOULD BE NEXT TO ME RIGHT NOW THE SPORTS BUILDING COULD BE FROM HERE TO MY WINDOW RIGHT ABOUT TO THEIR AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO IN PONTE VEDRA.

I DON'T THINK WE BARELY DO THAT IN ATLANTA.

ANYWAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO AND YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS OF MR. SMITH. >> LAST ONE.

>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 555 RUTILE DRIVE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENT FOR 27 YEARS. OUR PROPERTY IS THE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS HUD AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE LODGE SITE WE ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO THE EXIT SIGN TO THE PROPOSED POD IN MY BACKYARD IN MY POOL AREA IS AS CLOSE AS YOU ARE TO THE METAL DETECTOR. JUNIOR FEET OR SO.

THAT IS MY VIEW SHED ON THE HUGE BUILDINGS AT THE PROPOSED PRE-DOBBY FACTUAL AND CONCISE REGARDING THE APPLICATION AS IT CAN BE AND GO TO CHINA TO COVER ANYTHING THE 30 BEEN COVERED.

THREE FACTS REMAIN THE MOST PROMINENT IN MY EYES OF THE PEOPLE BEEN ASKED TO REPRESENT 35 FEET ABOVE GRADE IS A CURRENT HEIGHT LIMITATION IN THE POT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR DEVELOPMENT OR IMPROVEMENTS OF THE GYM AND IT WILL CREATE A RESIDENTIAL LAND USE HARDSHIP FOR ALL OF US. HONOR PROPERTIES.

I ACTUALLY MET WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING PEOPLE HERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I DO WITHIN THE CURRENT ZONING LAWS

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ON THIS COMMITTEE WE ANALYZE THE 80 BILLION-DOLLAR NORTHEAST FORD ACADEMY FOR OPPORTUNITY AND GROWTH.

I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. AND FOR DEVELOPMENT AND I KNOW ABOUT PUD'S AND UR'S IN THE ECONOMICS OF DEVELOPMENT.

BUT EVERYONE HERE LIKE YOU SEE IS HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS OF THE SCOPE AND INTENT OF THE BEAUTY AND IS CALLED THE FAMILY LEGACY PROPERTY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE TOTALLY APPRECIATE IT BUT IN THE SETTING OF A SWEEPING PUD IN ALL WAIVERS IT IS PLAIN OLD INVESTMENT PROPERTY IN THE PUD AND THE WAIVERS ARE WORTH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I CAN IMAGINE.

WAIVER 21 TAKES THE COMMUNITY OUT OF ALL FUTURE DECISION-MAKING FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S CORRECT BUT THAT'S HOW I READ IT WAIVER FIVE TAKES THE PZA, NOT THAT BUT THE ARC OF ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES TO ANY CHANGES IN THE PART OF THEIR MAJOR, TAKES THIS COMMITTEE OUT OF ANY CHANGES OF THE PARCEL AND IT TAKES A BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OUT BECAUSE A MAJOR CHANGES CAN BE MADE IN THE MASTER PLAN REVIEW. THE PUD AS I UNDERSTAND IS A DOCUMENT OF TRUST IN EXCHANGE IN EXCHANGE FOR BRINGING CLARITY AND DETAIL TO A BUILDING PROJECT WHICH BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND USUALLY DEVELOPED WITH THE COMMUNITY IN EXCHANGE FOR WAIVERS OF BUILDING CODES AND SETBACKS AND ZONING AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS BEEN ONE WAY AND THIS PUD IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE UNTIL LAST MONTH PUBLIC UNVEILING WAS DEVELOPED IN PRIVATE FOR OVER FOUR YEARS BY AN EXPERIENCED TEAM OF LAND ATTORNEYS AND ARCHITECTS. STILL THERE IS NO MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT MAP WITH BUILDING FOOTPRINTS THE BACK OF A NAPKIN AS WE SAW IN WIGGLY LINES, BACK OF A NAPKIN, THE RESORT WILL GO HERE IT DOES NOT EVEN SAY PARKING WILL GO HERE, JUST THE RESORT BECAUSE PARKING IS THE RESORT THIS IS SIMPLY NOT BELIEVABLE NIGHT GUARANTY ATTENDED THIS MEETING YOU WILL NOT KNOW PRECISELY WHAT WILL BE BUILT, WHERE IT WILL BE BUILT, HOW HIGH EXACTLY OR HOW WOULD AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRAFFIC, THE ONLY THING YOU WILL KNOW IT WILL BE HUGE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RESILIENCY THERE'S A LOT OF CLAIMS OF RESILIENCY AND REQUIRE BECAUSE OF RESILIENCY MOST PROVISIONS IN THE POD MAKE THE AREA MUCH LESS RESILIENT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS PERCENTAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHILE SERVING ON THE SECOND MARINE DIVISION DURING THE FIRST GULF WAR I WAS PART OF THE DUST OPTING FOR HURRICANE ANDREW JOHNSON ON DAY TWO I FLEW INTO THE HELL THAT WAS HOMESTEAD AIR FORCE BASE IN THE FIELD HOSPITAL. AND I'VE BEEN TO NEW ORLEANS, GULFPORT MARSH HARBOUR AND AFTER HURRICANE AND ONE THING IS OBVIOUS THE TWO-STORY MORE RESILIENT BUILDING OF THE FIRST TO GO BACK ONLINE THE LARGE MULTISTORY BUILDINGS EXACTLY LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE PD DEPICTIONS IN THE SCALE OF THE CARLISLE REMAINED A BETA BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMICS OF THE RECOVERY AND EXPENSIVE TO REFURBISH AND TOO EXPENSIVE TO DEMOLISH EVEN TODAY NEW ORLEANS GULFPORT MARSH HARBOUR WITH THE EXACT SAME SIZE REMAIN ABANDONED AND STAND AS MONUMENTS TO POOR PLANNING O GAUGE LARGE SCALES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO THE SCALE TO BE RESILIENT ONLY THE CONSTRUCTIONAL ENGINEERING.

NEXT IT HASN'T BEEN TALKED ABOUT PUTTING MORE DENSITY AND MORE PEOPLE ON THE RED ZONE THIS IS AGAINST ALMOST EVERY KNOWN CONVENTION AND COMMON SENSE OF MODERN COASTAL PLANNING AND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED ADD DENSITY INTO THE RED ZONE BECAUSE IT PUTS LIVES AT RISK I WAS ON THE MAYO CLINIC EMERGENCY TEAM MANY TIMES AND PARTICULARLY DURING HURRICANE MATTHEW AND EVACUATION ORDERS UNEXPECTEDLY CAME TO THE HURRICANE ZONE THE WINTER SHUTDOWN TO HOTELS IN OUR CAMPUS AND BECAME A CRISIS THE HOTEL EMPLOYEES SHUTDOWN HOTELS TO EVACUATE THEIR FAMILIES SO THEY CAN BE WITH HER FAMILY SO THE HOTEL GOT SHUT DOWN.

THEY COME IN NEW RESIDUAL HAVE CARS.

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>> AT THIS POINT IS 150 I DON'T THINK THE APPLICANT WAS TO GET IN REBUTTAL AND HAVE TO STOP HIS IS THAT CORRECT.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST. >> EXCUSE ME.

I DID NOT HEAR THAT. >> NO, SIR BECAUSE OF SOME MISSPEAKING BY PEOPLE WHO JUST TESTIFIED ON BEHALF OF DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO OVER THE MISREPRESENTATIONS US WERE JUST MADE ON THE RECORD.

>> THAT WILL BE IS ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION RI.

[2. ZVAR 2023-16 2 Marilyn Avenue.]

>> OKAY. >> GOOD MORNING ANDEE SIMS. I'M HERE TO REQUEST A VARIANCE ON A SETBACK FOR AN ADDITION FOR

AN EXISTING HOME. >> THE HOME IS ON A CORNER LOT,

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HERE AND HERE'S A SITE SURVEY. >> YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD

SIR. >> NO THAT IS IT.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHAT DOES THE ELEVATION LOOK AT

THE REAR OF THE HOUSE. >> YES, SIR READ ON THE EXISTING 30 FEET ON THAT SIDE THERE IS TO WINDOWS AND ON THE NEW ADDITION THERE WILL BE TWO MORE WINDOWS ON THE SAME EAST SIDE OF THE

HOUSE. >> WHAT I'M SAYING WHERE THE AC

PAD IS ARE THERE WINDOWS THERE. >> NO, SIR THERE WILL BE A DOOR MIDWAYS TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE ADDITION THERE IS GOING TO BE A FRENCH DOOR GOING OUT INTO A PATIO AND WORKING TO MAKE THE

WHOLE PATIO RIGHT THERE. >> IS THERE REASON YOU CAN'T

SLIDE THE ADDITION TO THE LEFT. >> BECAUSE OF THE AC.

>> WITH ANYONE HAVE ROOM FOR THE PATIO.

>> CORRECT. >> WERE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR

A MOTION. >> MEGAN PINNOCK MOTION TO

[3. MAJMOD 2023-14 Rock Springs Farms PUD.]

>> A MOTION BY MEGAN IS THERE A SECOND QUESTIONING.

>> IS ANY DISCUSSION. >> LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

>> THE MOTION PASSES 4 - 0 LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE I'M GOING TO SAY THIS IS MS. JULIET I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO PRONOUNCE THAT LAST NAME. TINY EXPERT TO COMMIT ACACIA

WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM HERE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD MEMBERS MY NAME IS JULIET AND I LIVE AT 330 SUNSTONE COURT IN SAINT AUGUSTINE FLORIDA 32086. I AM THE BOARD PRESIDENT OF THE ROCK SPRING FARMS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR RSS.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE RSS COMMUNITY IN MY OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS HOA BOARD PRESIDENT TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR A VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO ACCEPT THE MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE SIGNED BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER FOR RSS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WHEN NO HOMEOWNER INPUT.

THIS IS AN URGENT ISSUE DUE TO THE SERIOUS PERPETUAL FINANCIAL STRAIN AND LIABILITY RSS CURRENTLY FACES AS A SMALL WE HAD NO PART. OUR SF IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION 182 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME COMMUNITY LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 206 IN U.S. 201 IT HAS PUBLIC ROADS AND NOT A GATED COMMUNITY. POD 2017 -- WHAT WAS THE REQUEST TO REZONE 101.54 ACRES FROM OPEN RURAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR 202 UNIT SINGLE-FAMILY HOME SUBDIVISION.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT LANGUAGE IN THE REZONING APPLICATION IN 2017 BEFORE OUR SF EXISTED WITH THE CURRENT CAPACITY OF 182 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

THE PARK USE SECTION OF THE PUD STATES IF DEVELOPED AS A PUBLIC PARK THE PARK SHALL BE JOINT USE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE APPROVED PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION FOR THE PROJECT SUCH USE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE APPROVED PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

DURING THE OCTOBER 172017 PUBLIC HEARING AND CONDITION MADE TO THE PUD INCLUDING AND PROVISION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE CONSTRUCTIVE PUBLIC PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS RESPONSIBILITY MAY BE ACHIEVED BY MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY FOR SUBCONTRACTING MAINTENANCE

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AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE LEGEND TO HAVE A LITTLE POINTER.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME USING THIS WHERE MY LASER IS POINTING THIS IS THE LINEAR PART PORTION IN U.S. ONE WITH THE CLICKER THAT IS THE SOLE INTEREST TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ON THE TOP RIGHT THERE IS A RETENTION POND AND THAT IS OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA IN THE BOTTOM LEFT WILL SEE A WALKING TRAIL AND ALSO PART OF THE COUNTY PARK. AND I'LL DISCUSS DURING FUTURE SLIDE IN IN THIS MIDDLE SECTION THERE IS A BATHROOM, PLAYGROUND AND IT COVERED HIS EVIL IN THIS ON THE BOTTOM PART IS A GRASSY AREA IN THE WALKING TRAIL WITH SOME FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND ON THE TOP RIGHT IS THE EMPTY FIELD SPACE.

OUR COMMUNITY IS FULLY BUILT OUT NO OTHER FACES ARE PLANNED IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE ROADS WERE RECENTLY PROVIDED WITH THE FINAL SKIN LAYER BY THE DEVELOPER. IN RESPONSE TO THE LANGUAGE IN THE POD AND DOCUMENT TITLE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE WAS SIGNED ON FEBRUARY 23, 2021, THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL IS THE EXACT TERMS PROVIDED IN THE DOCUMENT WERE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL MVP TEXT, THIS AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED BY THE COMMISSION CHAIR OF THE TIME AND BY THE DEVELOPER OF THE SUBDIVISION. AS YOU MAY BE AWARE IN THIS AGREEMENT THE HOA IS REQUIRED TO PAY FOR ALL MAINTENANCE FOR THIS PARK AND GRATUITY. IN OTHER WORDS THERE IS NO END DATE TO THE REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN GOVERNMENT PROPERY BY A PRIVATE ENTITY. THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE ALSO STIPULATES THE HOA IS REQUIRED TO HOLD INSURANCE ON COUNTY PROPERTY PROPERTY THAT THE HOA DOES NOT RIGHTFULLY OWN NO OTHER PUBLIC PARK IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS MAINTAINED BY AN HOA WHICH MAKES IT HIGHLY UNUSUAL.

IN ADDITION THIS ALSO PUTS HOA AND SOME DEGREE OF JEOPARDY DUE TO LIABILITY ISSUES. A DENSITY BONUS WAS PROVIDED IN THE ORIGINAL MVP TEXT STATING SHOULD THE DEVELOPER BUILD AN ADDITIONAL 20 LOTS IN OUR SF COMMUNITY PARK LANE WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY IF THE DEVELOPER DID NOT BUILD THE PARKLAND WOULD NOT BE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY.

HOWEVER, OUR COMMUNITY IS DEALING WITH THE THIRD OPTION WHICH WAS NEVER VOTED ON BY THE BCC INITIALLY AND NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PUD. THE THIRD OPTION THE DEVELOPER DID NOT BUILD AN ADDITIONAL 20 LOTS IN THE RSS COMMUNITY BUT DEDICATED THE PARK ANYWAY. WHILE THE MODIFICATION AND AMENDMENT WAS PROVIDED AFTER-THE-FACT I AM MAKING A NOTE OF THE DETAIL BECAUSE IT PUTS A FINANCIAL STRAIN ON EACH HOMEOWNER NOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY ONLY COLLECTS ASSESSMENTS FROM 182 HOMES AND NOT THE ORIGINAL 202.

ON JANUARY 24 OF THIS YEAR 2023 THE HOA WAS TURNED OVER FROM THE DEVELOPER AT THE ANNUAL MEMBER MEETING SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE HOA LEARNED ABOUT AN AGREEMENT WHICH WE LEARNED WAS A COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE THAT WAS MADE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE COUNTY AND PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR RYAN KAINE IN ATTENDANCE ON MAY 10 OF THIS YEAR AT THE COUNTY PARK.

OUT OF THE 182 HOMES CLOSE TO 100 RESIDENTS WERE THERE REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH A SHOW OF HANDS IT WAS A UNANIMOUS DECISION TO WANT THE COUNTY TO TAKE BACK MAINTENANCE OF A PARK WHICH IT ALREADY OWNS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE HOA BOARD INCLUDED THE VICE PRESIDENT AND MYSELF ALSO MET WITH EACH COMMISSIONER INDIVIDUALLY IN THE MONTHS LEADING UP TO THIS MEETING IN MAY TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED ON THIS ISSUE IN MY CONVERSATION WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT APARTMENT HEADED BY MIKE ROBERSON HE CONFIRMED THE ONLY WAY RSS COULD REMOVE THIS LANGUAGE IF A MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION BE SUBMITTED AND TO

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WE ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD INSURANCE FOR PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T RGHTFULLY OWN. OUR CURRENT INSURANCE CARRIER REFUSES TO AMEND OUR POLICY TO INCLUDE THE POD LANGUAGE.

THE LAST EFFORT WAS A SUGGESTION FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SARAH TAYLOR WHO IN ADDITION TO MIKE ROBERSON AND TERESA BISHOP HAVE PROVIDED% INSTRUMENTAL GUIDANCE TO US DURING THIS PROCESS. OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY HAS ALSO REACHED OUT TO FOR ADDITIONAL SEPARATE UNDERWRITERS REPRESENTING DIFFERENT CARRIERS ALL OF WHOM REFUSED TO DISCUSS THE ABILITY OF OWNING LAND TO THE COUNTY.

THE HOA HAS NO EXPERIENCE OR BACKGROUND IN PARK MANAGEMENT AND WE ARE NOT A GOVERNMENTAL OR QUASIGOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

AND AS SUCH CANNOT BE EXPECTED TO FULFILL THE COUNTY'S ROLE OR TO PAY TWICE FOR THAT ROLE THAT IS ONCE VIA TAXES AND TWICE PRIOR HOA DUES WHICH ALREADY GO TO THE COUNTY PARK MAINTENANCE.

PARKS AND RECREATION ON THE OTHER HAND IS FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS LIKE ME TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION AND EXPERTISE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES ON COUNTY LAND. FOR EXAMPLE IN MAY OF THIS YEAR A RESIDENT IN RSF NOTIFIED THE HOA BOARD THAT A PIECE OF THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WAS BROKEN SO AS YOU CAN SEE AND I'LL USE THE LASER RIGHT THERE. THERE IS A PLEXIGLASS WALL 10 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND PRIOR TOTHE TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF THE COUNTY PARK THIS IS WHERE MY TWO YOUNG SONS USED TO CLIMB UP TO ACCESS TWO OF THE THREE SLIDES. WITH THE BUBBLE BROKEN THE HOA WAS LEFT IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF THE WORST-CASE SCENARIOS DUE TO BROKEN EQUIPMENT, WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL FOR REPORTING THIS, WHAT RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE HOA NOW SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW.

WE DON'T KNOW NOR SHOULD WE BE EXPECTED BECAUSE WERE NOT EMPLOYEES OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER REFUSED TO RETURN OUR CALLS SO WE COULD DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING A REPLACEMENT EVEN AFTER I WAS PERSONALLY INSTRUCTED BY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO CALL THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER. A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY SPENT TIME THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO ASSOCIATION MATTERS TO TRY TO HELP GET IN TOUCH WITH THE MANUFACTURER BUT TO NO AVAIL. WE DO NOT HAVE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY LIKE THE COUNTY DOES. OUR COMMUNITY IS EXPOSED TO LIABILITY RIGHT NOW AND THAT MAKES US TARGET THROUGH NO FAULT OF HER OWN. OUR HOA BUDGET AND DUES AS THEY WERE ACQUIRED FROM THE DEVELOPER HAVE FAILED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE UNREASONABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE HAS PLACED ON OUR COMMUNITY.

BEFORE THE HOA WAS TURNED OVER TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR THE DEVELOPER WAS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM SUBSIDIZING THE COST OF THE COUNTY PARK MAINTENANCE FEES. THIS IN ADDITION TO THE OVERALL VIABILITY THAT WE FACE SHOULD WE FACE CATASTROPHIC ON THE LAND FURTHER PROVES THE UNREASONABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF THIS AGREEMENT MADE WITH NO HOMEOWNER INPUT.

SINCE 2021 THE ASSOCIATION HAS PAID OVER $58000 IN MOSTLY LAWN CARE, SOME ELECTRIC AND SOME WATER TO MAINTAIN LAND OWNED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE HOA HAS PAID OVER $20000 FOR

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SO THOSE FEES THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE COMBINED WITH THE TAXES THAT THE HOMEOWNER ALREADY PAID THAT GO TOWARDS THE COUNTY PARKS AND NOW THE ADDITIONAL FEE OF FILING THE APPLICATION PUTS OUR HOA AT NOW BEING ESSENTIALLY UNTRUE TRIPLE TAX.

SO THIS IS THE WALKING TRAIL THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY PRESENTATION THE WALKING TRAIL LOCATED AROUND THE RETENTION POND WEST OF THE PRIVATE AMENITY CENTER IS WITHIN A 1.14-ACRE EASEMENT THAT THE COUNTY HAS AROUND THE POND TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC TRAIL. THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE TRAIL IS LOCATED ON SUNSTONE COURT ON THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER NEAR THE CURVATURE SHOWN ON THE MAP. RIGHT THERE THAT IS A BIG MANSION IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THE ENTRANCE IS RIGHT HERE.

THIS TRAIL WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE INITIAL POD MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION AS THE TRAIL LAND IS OWNED BY THE HOA.

THE MAINTENANCE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPECIFIC TRAIL WILL BE ABSORBED INTO THE HOA PRESENT ALREADY EXISTING RESPONSIBILITY TOWARD THE TRAIL THE WALKING TRAIL MAINTENANCE FEES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FEES USED TO MAINTAIN THE LINEAR PORTIO OF THE COUNTY PARK. THE HOA MAINTAINS THE LAND AND TRAIL WITH NO CHANGES. WE ARE NOT HERE TO DEBATE ITS PURPOSE OR ITS INITIAL INCLUSION AS PART OF THE COUNTY PARK.

HOWEVER, AFTER READING THE COUNTY STAFF REPORT, I UNDERSTAND AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING THE TRAIL BE SEPARATED FROM THE LINEAR PORTION OF THE COUNTY PARK, THE HOA HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS RECOMMENDATION.

>> BECAUSE THEY ARE SHARED BY THE COUNTY PARK, THE HOA WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE WATER ELECTRIC AND ANY OTHER UTILITIES NOT PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IF ANY WILL BE DIVIDED TO REFLECT ACCURATE MAINTENANCE FOR THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OTHER USERS OF THE PARK THE HOA WITH WHATEVER COMMISSIONS THAT MAY BE NEEDED TO BE GRANTED BY THE COUNTY MAY ALSO LOOK INTO CONTRIBUTING A NATURAL BUFFER TO HELP PRESERVE AND CONSERVE THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF OUR ENVIRONMENT.

BASED ON THE INITIAL COST AND ESTIMATES THAT I HAVE RECEIVED OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS WE WILL MOST LIKELY NEED TO FUND RAISE TOWARDS THIS EFFORT. THE HOA WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME TO HELP EXPEDITE ALL OF THE LOGISTICS. JOINING ME TODAY ON THE HOA BOARD IS SECRETARY OF THAT AS WELL AS A SIZABLE NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY.

AS THE PZA BOARD DELIBERATES ON THE UPCOMING VOTE FOR THIS I ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES NOT JUST AS AN HOA PRESIDENT BUT AS A HOMEOWNER WHO IS BLINDSIDED BY THE UNDISCLOSED FINANCIAL BURDEN OF THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE.

HOMEOWNERS INTERCOMMUNITY SOME OF WHOM ARE REALTORS AND BROKERS REPEATEDLY ASKED THE SALESPEOPLE ABOUT THE PARK PRIOR TO PURCHASING A HOME AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE COUNTY WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE. AND NINE MONTHS INTO TURNOVER OF ACTION THE COMMUNITY IS YET TO FIND A HOMEOWNER WHO WAS PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THE EXTENT OF THE LIABILITY AND FINANCIAL BURDEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE TERMS OF THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE. YOU MAY BE ASKING YOURSELVES THEN THEIR ISSUE IS WITH THE BUILDER AND THE DEVELOPER ISN'T IT. THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS NO THE COUNTY IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING ON LAND OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED BY THE COUNTY IN OUR HANDS ARE ESSENTIALLY TIED UNLESS THE COUNTY, THE PZA AND ECC TAKE ACTION AND HELP OUR COMMUNITY. OUR CURRENT INSURANCE CARRIER IS PLANNING TO DROP US. WE ARE STUCK IN A DEGREE BUT THAT PUTS US IN A PERPETUAL LIABILITY SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN ON THAT LAND. THIS APPLICATION THEREFORE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW HOW THE COUNTY AND PRIVATE CITIZENS CAN WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL OUTCOME, THE RSS BOARD OF DIRECTORS THINKS THE PZA FOR ITS CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION AND AM CONFIDENT THAT THE PZA BOARD WILL MAKE A WISE DECISION. I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

>> TO ANY BOARDMEMBER'S HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE THE POND ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POND YOU

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MENTIONED DRAINAGE. >> WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL

RETENTION PONDS INTERCOMMUNITY. >> SO THE PARK IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY CAN GO IS THERE PARKING THERE?

>> THERE IS PARKING. >> I'VE NEVER BEEN TO IT.

>> THERE IS PARKING AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT IN THE FIRST PUD BECAUSE I WAS STUDYING IT IN DETAIL.

THIS AREA WAS ORIGINALLY MEANT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING BUT THERE ARE PARKING SPACES RIGHT THERE IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE I AM POINTING THE LASER AROUND 10 OR 11 SPACES.

>> I MAY HAVE SOME STAFF QUESTIONS.

>> HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF DOES THE COUNTY HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET

TO TAKE OVER THE SPARK. >> 'S REPRESENTATIVES ON PARKS AND RECREATION IF THEY COULD PLEASE,.

>> SHOULD I MOVE OR STAY HERE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JAMIE AND THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FORPARKS AND RECREATION.

RYAN APOLOGIZES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THIS MEETING.

CRRENTLY AT OUR BUDGET LEVEL WE DO NOT HAVE THE SPARK PLANNED INTO FOR MAINTENANCE FOR OUR FISCAL UPCOMING YEAR.

THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH OUR MINISTRY SHOULD A BUDGET TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH MANAGING THIS PARTIAL.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT COMMON FOR A DEVELOPER TO DEDICATE IT TO THE COUNTY AND HAVE THE HOA PAY FOR IT.

I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT SO FAR THAT I RECALL.

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR IF I MAY I DO NOT THINK IT IS THAT COMMON.

I'VE NOT SEEN THIS THAT OFTEN EITHER.

MOST PARKS IN THESE COMMUNITIES MAINTAIN THEMSELVES AND THEN THEY TAKE CARE OF THEM THEY DON'T DONATE THEM OFF TO THE COUNTY. THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PARKS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY AND I BELIEVE THE COUNTY MAINTAINS THOSE WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN AND THIS WAS A LITTLE UNUSUAL THIS WAS A PROJECT GOING TO REVIEW AND IT GOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING STAGE AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME OFFER TO THE COUNTY FOR THE CONSID CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW I WANT TO ASK MY QUESTION.

DURING THE PROCESS WAS EVER AGREED UPON THAT THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE IT WAS A SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNTY. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT WAS AT ONE TIME SO I'M SORT OF CONFUSED ON THE PROCESS.

>> WHEN THE PUD FIRST CAME BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THE APPLICANT MADE THE OFFER TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO SAY WE CAN GIVE YOU THE SPARK WILL MAINTAIN IT AND HAVE A PARKING AREA WHERE THERE IS NOT A PARK IN THAT LOCATION RIGHT NOW SO YOU CAN HAVE THIS COMMUNITY PARK THAT WILL BE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.

IT WAS A PARK GIVEN TO THE COUNTY WITH NO MAINTENANCE ABILITY OR NO MAINTENANCE EXPENSE FOR THE COUNTY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF APPLICANT.

WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS? >> COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM.

>> JUST ONE OR DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK.

>> IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK LINE UP BEHIND.

>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT BEFORE YOU START I WANT HIM TO RESET THE CLOCK. THANK YOU.

>> HI, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY MY NAME IS MARIE MORRISON AND 11242 SUNSET COURT.

I WANT TO PROFESS MY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY PUSHED UPON HER COMMUNITY.

THESE DATES ARE VERY IMPORTANT. I SIGNED BY AGREEMENT OF SALE TO PURCHASE MY HOME ON JANJANUARY , 2021 AND IT WAS ENDORSED BY THE BUILDER ON JANUARY 27TH THAT MADE IT ILLEGALLY FINDING DOCUMENT ALTHOUGH THERE WAS MENTION OF THE COUNTY PARK THERE WAS NO MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY.

THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE WAS NOT RECORDED UNTIL 22621.

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OUR CAN I AS A HOMEOWNER BE PLACED UNDER COVENANT THAT DID NOT EVEN EXIST WHEN I SIGNED SALE.

THE FINANCIAL BURDEN IS TOO FULL, FIRST REPAYING FOR PARKS THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY AND I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE PARK IN THE USE COUNTY CONTRACTOR ON REPAIRS.

WE ALREADY CONTRIBUTE TO THE COUNTY PARK SYSTEM THROUGH OUR TAXES AND EXPECTED TO PAY ADDITIONAL MONEY AND PERPETUITY.

SECOND TO THE FINANCIAL BURDEN WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER IS THE ADDITIONAL CONSEQUENCE THAT THIS ARRANGEMENT ON THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES. IF WE WERE TO SELL HER HOME AND A BUYER WAS COMPARING OUR COMMUNITY WITH ONE THAT DID NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN WE WOULD BE IN A LESS ATTRACTIVE POSITION FOR SALE. IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE PARK IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE IMPROVEMENTS MADE BY THE COUNTY AND UTILIZE THE SPACE TO BENEFIT EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY.

I FEEL IT WOULD NOT BE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE HOMEOWNERS IN THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE TO FUND THE MAINTENANCE OF A PARK AS IT PRESENTLY IS OR ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE FORTHCOMING.

WE HAVE THE POSSIBLE PROBLEM OF LIABILITY AS WELL THAT YOU ONLY SPOKE ABOUT AND UNABLE TO GET INSURANCE ON PROPERTY WE DO NOT OWN THIS COMMUNITY CANNOT AFFORD TO TAKE ON THE FINANCIAL BURDEN IT'S Y UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARK MAINTENANCE COST BETWEEN 20 TWOMAC 25% OF OUR TOTAL HOA BUDGET AND ALSO OUR HOA HAS NO EXPENSE OR BACKGROUND OF PARK MANAGEMENT THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE WAS NOT DISCLOSED OR EVEN RECORDED WHEN I SIGNED MY AGREEMENT OF SALE AND NO HOMEOWNER WAS MADE AWARE OF THIS FINANCIAL BURDEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE COVETED FOR MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE AND I HOPE THAT THE COUNTY DOES THE RIGHT THING HERE AND MAKES THEM ADMIT TO WHATEVER DOCUMENTS NEEDED TO CHANGE THIS ISSUE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND TAKE THE BURDEN AWAY FROM US. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, OVER HERE MA'AM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS YVETTE I LIVE AT 115 OCEAN JASPER DRIVE AT ROCK SPRINGS FARMS AND THE HOA BOARD SECRETARY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

TODAY I AM HERE AS A HOMEOWNER OF OUR COMMUNITY THE SPECIFICS OF THE COUNTY PARK YOU ALREADY KNOW WAS BECAUSE OF YOUR EXHAUSTIVE STUDY AND RESEARCH FOR WHICH WE ARE MOST APPRECIATIVE. HOW MUCH IT IS COSTING, YOU ALREADY KNOW. ON A BAD DEAL IT WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT WE CANNOT ENSURE THE COUNTY PARK BECAUSE WE DO NOT OWN IT YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT TO.

YOU UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE MIGHT INCUR IF SOMEONE WERE TO GET HURT ON UNINSURED PROPERTY THE LIABILITY ALONE IS HORRIFYINGLY SCARY THANKFULLY THE COUNTY PARK WAS CLOSED DURING THE STUDY AND RESEARCH TIME BECAUSE WE WERE IN VIOLATION OF IT NOT BEING INSURED.

YOU NOW KNOW OUR RESIDENTS WERE UNABLE OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT WAS GOING TO CAUSE ON EACH OF US AT PURCHASE.

MOST RECENTLY AT A BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING I LISTENED AS WHAT MY NEIGHBORS EXPLAINED HOW SHE AND HER HUSBAND CAME TO BUY THEIR HOME AT ROCK SPRINGS FARMS AND THE COUPLE CAME DOWN FROM ANOTHER STATE JUST LIKE A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS HOPING TO SETTLE LYNN THERE FOREVER HOME.

RIGHT NOW JUST LIKE THIS NEIGHBOR THERE WERE OTHERS WHO HAVE TAKEN ADDITIONAL JOBS JUST IN CASE EVEN WHEN ALREADY RETIRED TO AFFORD THEIR HOMES. THIS IS A REALITY FOR MANY OF US. FOR US IT IS A LIABILITY AND DOLLARS AND CENTS. IT'S ABOUT CAN WE AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR DREAM HOME. WILL THERE BE HIGHER HOA DUES IMPOSED BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY PARK CAN I AFFORD THAT.

RIGHTFULLY SO OUR NEIGHBORS ARE WORRIED.

WERE ALL WORRIED IF WE CAN AFFORD THE COMFORTS OF OUR COMMUNITY IF THE UNDER THIS FINANCIAL BURDEN IS IMPOSED ON US. AS YOU KNOW THE ONLY AMENITY IN ROCK SPRINGS FARMS IS A SMALL POOL WITH THE PAVILION.

WE DON'T HAVE A CLUBHOUSE, A PIAZZA WITH SHOPS AND NOR DO WE HAVE THE AMENITIES LIKE SILVERLEAF OR RIVERTOWN.

WE SPECIFICALLY CHOSE ROCK SPRINGS FARMS BECAUSE WE FOUND A SMALL PIECE OF PARADISE, IT IS A QUIET COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE EXTRA AMENITIES OTHERS HAVE. WE CHOSE THE BEST TIMIDITY WAS HIS PROXIMITY TO THE OCEAN. IF WE ARE UNSUCCESSFUL WITH THE MODIFICATION AND IF THE COUNTY DOES NOT TAKE THE COUNTY PARK BACK JUST LIKE THE NEIGHBOR EXPLAINED MANY OF US WILL BE FORCED TO SELL HER HOMES BECAUSE THEY WILL BECOME TOO EXPENSIVE AND UNAFFORDABLE TO LIVE IN. YOU HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THAT, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO VOTE YES, PRESENT YOUR FINDINGS TO

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>> YES, MA'AM. >> I AM A REAL INDIA LIVE AT 544 SAINT AUGUSTINE 32095 I WORKED FOR THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ON THE PROPERTY MANAGER FOR ROCK SPRINGS FARMS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THEY TOOK OVER MEETING TO THE COMMUNITY IN MAY OF 2023 AFTER THE TURNOVER FROM THE DEVELOPER OCCURRED AND I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE DEVELOPER HAD ESTABLISHED FOR THE HOA WITH THE COUNTY.

ROCK SPRINGS FARM IS THE ONLY HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION THAT A COMPANY MANAGES WITH THE CLIENTELE OF OVER 80 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT HAS A FINANCIAL OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY. AS A PROPERTY MANAGER IT MEANS THIS ASSOCIATION IS OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN GOVERNMENT LAND IN A COUNTY PARK MY MAIN CONCERN OTHER THAN MAINTAINING A COUNTY PARK IN WHICH I HAVE NO PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE HANDLING IS A LIABILITY THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN HANDED DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE ASSOCIATION IS UNABLE TO OBTAIN INSURANCE ON LAND OWNED BY THE COUNTY. THIS COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE IS AN OVERWHELMING FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY ON THE SMALL COMMUNITY IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER ESTABLISHED WITH THE COUNTY PROVIDES NOTHING BUT A FINANCIAL BURDEN IN THE LIABILITY CONCERN FOR EVERY FAMILY THAT RESIDES WITHIN THE ASSOCIATION. A MAJORITY OF THE OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE WHEN PURCHASING THEIR HOMES AND SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS PURCHASER PROPERTIES PRIOR TO THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BEING FINALIZED. AS A PROPERTY MANAGER FOR ROCK SPRINGS FARMS I WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THE COMMUNITY IS PROTECTED FROM THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND THE OVERWHELMING LIABILITY THAT THE COVENANT FOR REPRESENT FOR THE ASSOCIATION. AS A ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT IT IS MY FIRM BELIEF THAT NO INDIVIDUAL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD BE PUT IN A POSITION OF A FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROPERTY OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

FOR EERY OTHER COUNTY RESIDENT CN REAP THE BENEFITS OF A PARK THAT IS MAINTAIN AND UNFORTUNATELY UNINSURED BY A COMMUNITY OF LESS THAN 200 PROPERTY OWNERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS FRANK LAMA TINA AND 11 ROCK SPRINGS FORD.

I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY IN SAINT AUGUSTINE FLORIDA IN MY COMMUNITY NEED YOUR HELP I'M REACHING OUT TO YOU TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PZA TWO RELEASES UNREASONABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE HAS PLACED ON THIS COMMUNITY. RSF IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF 182 HOMES LOCATED NEAR STATE ROAD 206 AND U.S. ONE.

RSF AND HOA BOARD HAVERTY SUBMITTED A MAJOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PZA MEETING IN SEPTEMBER 21 OF 23. I AM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE MAINTENANCE FOR THIS PARK BE COMPLETELY TURNED OVER BACK TO THE COUNTY PLEASE VOTE TO APPROVE MAGA OD 2023.14.

MY COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIALLY BEING DOUBLE TAXED IN THIS DEAL MADE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND DEVELOPERS WITH NO HOMEOWNER INPUT FOR THE COVENANT FOR MAINTENANCE WAS NEVER DISCLOSED TO THE HOMEOWNERS PRIOR TO PURCHASING THEIR HOME WE ARE SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD INSURANCE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T RIGHTFULLY OWN THIS IS ALARMING AND I WORRY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO ANYONE THAT USES THIS EQUIPMENT AND FACILITIES AND THE MAGNITUDE IN THIS KIND OF LIABILITY WE AS HOMEOWNERS WOULD HAVE IN THE SITUATION. I THANK YOU IN ADVANCE BUT I AS A HOMEOWNER BOUGHT THIS HOME WITH NO IDEA THAT WE WERE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS PARK.

TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I DID NOT REALIZE THE PARK WAS THERE WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOME. I BOUGHT THE HOME BECAUSE I LIKE THE HOME OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS SITUATION WOULD REQUIRE US HAD TO TAKE OVER THIS PARK AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE VOTE ACCORDINGLY TO REMOVE THIS LIABILITY ON OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS AND 11728 OCEAN JASPER DRIVE.

I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF ROCK SPRINGS I BOUGHT MY HOME THERE LAST YEAR. NEVER TOLD WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THE COUNTY PARK.

LIKE IT'S BEEN SAID 25 - 30% OF OUR ASSOCIATION FEES AND SOMEBODY SAID THE FEES GO UP NEXT YEAR AND ABSOLUTELY BUT WILL HOUSE TO PAY FOR THE COUNTY PARK.

THE DEVELOPER NEVER BUILT THE 20 EXTRA HOMES AND WE HAVE 182 HOMES AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE LIKE ME NEARING RETIREMENT AGE OR AT RETIREMENT AGE, THINK OF YOUR RETIREMENT PLAN AND YOU GO TO YOUR ADVISOR AND SAY BY THE WAY AND NEED A LINE ITEM IN MY RETIREMENT PLAN FOR EVERY MONTH TO PAY FOR A COUNTY PARK THERE GOING TO LOOK AT YOU WITH THREE EYES.

WHAT SCARES ME MOST IT IS UNINSURED IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT THEY COULD SUE OUR HOA AND PUT A LIEN ON MY HOUSE AND JUST FALLEN AND BROKEN MY WRIST AND HAD SURGERY I HAVE A PLATE AND EIGHT SCREWS OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENED AT OUR PARK THEY COULD PUT A LIEN ON MY HOUSE SO WHAT URGE YOU TO SUPPORT US AND VOTE YES FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER THE PARK.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY I SEE THE SIGNS AND I WANT TO SAY I DON'T MIND THE SIGNS BUT WHATEVER DECISIONS WERE NOT GOOD HAVE HIS SENIOR CLAPPING OR ANYTHING WHEN WERE DONE. EXETER QUIETLY.

ALRIGHT WERE BACK INTO THE COMMITTEE I WANT TO SAY COUPLE THINGS. IT'S NOT THE SPORTS JOB AND UNDERSTAND ME CORRECTLY WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE FISCAL SIDE OF THE COUNTY ONE, NUMBER TWO WE DON'T DEAL WITH AGREEMENTS WITH THE COVENANT OR MAINTENANCE THAT IS BETWEEN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AGREEMENT.

I THINK WERE HERE TO DO TODAY IS TO PHOTO RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE PUD TO ELIMINATE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IN THE FISCAL SOUNDNESS IS REALLY NOT UP TO US I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR NUMBER TWO IT BE IMPORTANT FOR STAFF TO TELL US IF THE COUNTY PARK IS REMOVED FROM THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTENANCE TO A PUBLIC PARK DOES THE APPLICANT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE RECREATION IN THE POD TEXT SAYS THAT THEY DO BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM A STAFF.

>> YES, SIR THEY DO WITHOUT THE COUNTY PARK BEING COUNTED INTO THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY STILL MEET THE RECREATION

REQUIRED FOR 182 UNITS. >> HAVING SAID ALL THAT AND COULD GET THE APPLICANT OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE.

>> I'M REQUESTING FOR THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION PLEASE BE REPEATED I COULD NOT HEAR WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.

>> WHICH PART. >> THE LAST REQUIREMENT FOR

>> BASICALLY THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN OUR CODE THAT SAYS IF YOU HAVE 182 LOTS YOU HAVE TO ASK NUMBER OF RECREATION ACRES. MY QUESTION WAS DO YOU MEET THAT STILL IF YOU'RE NOT MAINTAINING THE PARK AND THE STAFF ANSWER

WAS YES. >> WILL THIS AFFECT THEIR VOTE.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THE LAND OF ELEMENT CODE.

>> THAT'S GOOD TO BE UP TO HOW THEY VOTE.

>> OKAY. >> MA'AM WE VERIFIED WHAT YOU'VE DONE IF APPROVED WILL STILL RESULT IN THE PUD MEETING THE

CODE. >> AND IT DOES.

>> WHICH IS A GOOD THING. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE LINK WHICH BEEN PRESENTED WHICH IS WHY

ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION. >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT

EITHER. >> I HAVE NO REBUTTAL TO GIVE AT THIS TIME I THINK WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.

>> THAT BRINGS UP DO THEY HAVE THIS FOR LEGAL OR STAFF LIKE THE PLAYGROUND AREA IS THAT ON THE COUNTY PARK OR IS THAT PART OF

THE PUD RECREATION SECTION. >> THEY ARE REQUIRED TO

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STILL. >> IF WE APPROVE THIS INTO THE COUNTY COMMISSION THEN THAT IS NOT TITLE TO THE COUNTY,

6 ACRES, CORRECT. >> AUTHORITY THERE.

>> WERE NOT DIVIDING OUT IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

>> THEY WOULD NEED A WAIVER IF THEY DIDN'T MEET THE 2.2

REQUIREMENT. >> THEY WOULD NEED A CONFERENCE

OF PLAN AMENDMENT. >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION I'M SO SORRY MAY I ASK A QUESTION THE WALKING TRAIL 1.41-ACRE WALKING TRAIL HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAD RECOMMENDED THAT IT GO BACK AND NOT BE A PART OF

THE COUNTY PARK. >> WHO OWNS THE WALKING TRAIL

NOW. >> THE HOA CURRENTLY OWNS IT BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT WAS INCLUDED AS A COUNTY PARK ACREAGE TO MEET THE NUMBERS. IF WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE LEC THAT IS SOMETHING ALSO WE WOULD NEED CLARIFICATION ON.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR THERE ARE TWO THINGS WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE IS A LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE 182 LOTS THAT ARE EXISTING.

THE COMMUNITY MEETS THAT THEY MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ON THE COMP PLAN WITHOUT THE 8-ACRE PARK.

THE 8-ACRE PARK MAY REMAIN. RIGHT NOW IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. IF IT GOES TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE COUNTY THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON HOW THEY WILL MAINTAIN. PARKS AND RECREATION DID MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE WALKING TRAIL THAT IS AROUND THE POND IN THE WALKING TRAIL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WHICH I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALREADY DOING AND THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THEM. IF THIS GETS APPROVE ULTIMATELY BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THERE WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGES MADE TO THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT WILL SOMEHOW BE MODIFIED AND PROBABLY THE PLAT WILL NEED TO BE MODIFIED BECAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THEY WILL MAINTAIN THE TRACK OF LIEN.

THERE IS OTHER ULTIMATE STEPS THAT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN.

FIRST THE MODIFICATION TO THE PD NEEDS TO BE MADE.

>> I THINK WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO OTHER LEGAL DOCUMENTS OUTSIDE OF OUR PREVIEW THAT THE COUNTY WILL MODIFY AND IT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE.

IF THAT IS CLEAR WE CANNOT MODIFY OR RECOGNIZE OR RECOMMEND THAT THEY MODIFY THE COVENANT OR MAINTENANCE COVENANT THAT IS UP TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

>> I GUESS WE WALKED TO THE PROCEDURE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PERTAIN TO US OUTSIDE.

ALL THE OTHER FINANCIAL PART WERE NOT MAKING AN OPINION OF WERE JUST MAKING AN OPINION. THAT'S WHAT I WANT THE RESIDENCE TO UNDERSTAND WE DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS.

>> WERE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE A SHOT AT IT.

>> WE CAN ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO IT IF YOU DON'T MIND.

DO WE NEED LEGAL FOR THAT? >> ARE WE GOING TO ADD TO THE FINDINGS AND YOU WANT TO PUT INTO THE RECORD WHAT THIS WOULD

BE. >> LEGAL HAS LOOKED AT THIS AS WE WOULD NOT START THE ADDITIONAL STEPS UNTIL WE HAVE THE BOARDS RECOMMENDATION AND ULTIMATELY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FINAL DECISION. IF THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO RELEASE THEM FROM THIS OBLIGATION THERE ARE LEGAL THINGS WILL NEED TO DO TO FINALIZE THAT AND WE WOULD POTENTIALLY GET THAT AT THE NEXT LEVEL.

I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO ANYTHING YOU'RE JUST IMPROVING.

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>> YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THE FINDINGS.

>> I'M HAPPY WITH THOSE IN IF YOU WANT TO GET THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE ANY OTHER LEGAL UPDATES TO COMPLY THAT IS OKAY BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT WITH DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD AT

THE NEXT LEVEL. >> I NEED A LEGAL BACKGROUND.

I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 23 JUST 14 SPRINGS FARM PUD BASE ON THE SIXTH FINDINGS IN FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> WAVE MOTION IN THE SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION?

>> LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT PASSES 4 - 0.

IT IS 2:15 P.M. WE'RE GOING SORRY.

[1. PUD 2023-02 Ponte Vedra Resort. (Part 2 of 2)]

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WITH RESPECT TO THE TESTIMONY OF THE TWO ATTORNEYS WHO SPOKE THERE WERE POINTS THAT I NEED TO CLARIFY.

THERE IS A MISREPRESENTATION FROM THE TRAIN FROM ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF EXHIBIT D TO THE PUD TEXT AND APPROVED THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE SURF AND SPORT CLUB THAT NOAH SHOWED YOU EARLIER THEY DID NOT ACT ON THE WAIVERS AT ALL. I THANK YOU ARE TOLD SOMETHING DIFFERENT THEY DID NOT ACT ON THE WAIVERS.

THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF CONDITIONS AND SINCE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO JURISDICTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPING CODE WE HAD TO DO WAIVERS FROM BOTH CODES.

SOME OF THOSE ARE DUPLICATIVE THAT'S WHY THE 31 OF THEM AND A WEEK AGO MONDAY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF 29 OF THE 531 WAIVERS AND THE IDENTICAL ZONING FOR BUILDING.

APPROVAL OF THE PUD BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT WAIVERS THAT WAS EXPRESSED TREATMENT OF THE REASON THEY RECOMMENDED DENIAL.

THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR AND NOT HAVE A BLANKET STATEMENT ON THE RECORD. I ALSO BELIEVE THIS TO BURNETT'S PRESENTATION IS BASED ON OUTDATED APPLICATION MATERIALS LIKE I SAID WE SUBMITTED A WHOLE NEW PACKAGE ON SEPTEMBER 1 WHICH

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REGARDING THE MVP MAP DETAILS WE SHOWN EXISTING CONDITIONS, PROPOSE CONDITIONS BUILDING HEIGHT MAPS, ACCESS POINTS IN THE PUD ALSO INCLUDES SETBACKS BUILDING DISTANCE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS SO MR. BURNETT AND MR. WHITEHOUSE IF THERE ARE ANY DETAILS USES THE PUD SIMILAR TO MANY OTHER PUD'S IN PONTE VEDRA AND OTHERWISE. IF WE LOOK AT RIVERTOWN THEY ARE ALL PUD'S THAT HAVE PLANS IN PUD TEXT SIMILAR TO THE ONES WE HAVE FOR US TODAY. THE SAME THING WITH GRASS VILLAGE IN PONTE VEDRA AND SAME THING WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT.

ANY STATEMENT THAT THE SPORT OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS EVER APPROVED A PUD WITH WAIVERS OR NEVER APPROVED A PUD MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN SERIES AND THE TYPE ARE PROPOSING A SIMPLE ENOUGH CASE. CONTINUING ON ALSO FOR THE RECORD IT WAS SHOWN THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT GATE OWNS WEST OF A1 A THAT IS NOT SUBJECT. MR. BURNETT SHOWED IN HIS POWERPOINT AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT PROPERTY IS NOT PART OF THE PUD SO WE NEED TO PLAY BETWEEN THE LINES.

A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ALSO WE WANT TO MENTION IN THE PUD TEXT FOR BUILDING HEIGHT WE HAVE AND I'LL SHOW YOU THIS AND WE SWITCH GEARS. THIS IS A REDLINE OF THE PUD TEXT THAT WAS FILED BY ASTON SEPTEMBER 1 OF THIS YEAR THIS IS A REDLINE THAT SHOWED THE CHANGES TO THE PUD TEXT FROM THE PRIOR VERSION CLASS F AND AVAILABLE PUBLICLY, THIS IS A REDLINE OF THE DOCUMENT AND IS A CLEAN VERSION IN YOUR PACKAGE I POINT TO THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD AND MR. DAVIS IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT AND BUILDING ROOF AND OTHER MECHANICAL STRUCTURES.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GREATER WITH THE COUNTY FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION TELL ME IF THERE'S ANYTHING I SHOULD COVER.

>> I KNOW YOU WERE MENTIONING SOME VARIABILITY IN FUTURE YEARS AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WILL THE EPC DO IN FUTURE YEARS OF FEMA AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT GOING FORWARD.

I THINK THEY PUT THE CAP ON THE SECTION AS IT RELATES TO 60 IN ESSENTIALLY IS SAYS THAT IN NO TIME WITHIN THE ELEVATION ANY GREATER THAN 6 FEET ABOVE FINISH ELEVATION AS IT CONTINUES TO MOVE NORTH NO LONGER WILL BE HIGHER THAN 6 FEET AND IF IT DOES GO HIGHER IT'LL BE REDUCED BY THE SAME AMOUNT.

>> THAT WAS MY CONCERN BY THE TIME THE PROJECT STARTS CONSTRUCTION THE RULES MAY CHANGE.

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>> BY RULES. >> DP THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. HOW ARE YOU ADDRESSING THAT

AGAIN. >> THE WAY WE HAVE WRITTEN THIS IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS THEIR MANDATING GROUP FOR THE BASELINE PERSPECTIVE AND IF I PUT UP A HANDWRITTEN.

WOULD YOU MIND ZOOMING. AS FAR AS YOU COULD GO THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT A MOMENT AGO THIS PE FLOOD ZONE THAT COULD GO UP OR DOWN IN THE FUTURE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE SAYS YOU WILL BE 2 FEET HIGHER IN THE FLOOD ZONE IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY GOES UP WITH HER, THE STE BECAUSE IT'S VARIABLE. WE CAN GO UP FOREVER AND EVER SO WE NEED A CAP. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS.

IN THIS CASE THE WAVE STUDY BY DEP ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS ALSO SO THEY COINCIDED AND IT WAS SEAMLESS AND REALLY WELL AND THEY HAPPEN TO COINCIDE. AS YOU GO FURTHER IF THE WAVE PRESSES 16 AND SET UP WAS IT TODAY AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY SINCE 15 WE COULD CONTINUE TO GO UP WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR DP.

>> THAT CONTINUES OUR REBUTTAL ON THIS PORTION WILL BE BACK AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TEAM.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS POINT.

AT THIS POINT WERE OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND IF YOU COULD LINE UP AT THE PODIUM ON EITHER SIDE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT TAKE TURNS FROM EITHER SIDE.

COME ON UP. >> YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT ON.

>> MY NAME IS JAMES I'M AT THE BOULEVARD MY ENTIRE LIFE.

A QUOTE FROM AN EARLIER SPEAKER OF THE DEVELOPMENT THIS PROJECT WILL CAUSE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC BUT WHAT CAUSED THEM TO FAIL DISRESPECTFULLY IS SOMETHING THAT NOT SOUNDS A COMMUNITY TO CONSTRUCTION REMOVE UNSTATED EFFECTS OF THE USAGE.

PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD IS A ONE LANE ROAD AND SEE THE EFFECTS OF GROWING USAGE, I CANNOT IMAGINE TRAFFIC ON MY HOME STREET 10 YEARS AGO IN A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS WILL CAUSE A SHIFT AWAY FROM WHITE PEOPLE CHEERS PONTE VEDRA.

FURTHERMORE I FIND IT DIFFICULT OF MORE ROOMS AND MORE SPACES WILL NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND WE WILL BEAR THE BURDEN FOR HOW 4000 SQUARE FEET AND THE POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE GROWTH OF UNLIMITED PARKING GARAGES, THE DEVELOPER ON THE SOUTH THAT WE DON'T COUNT AGAINST RESORT DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ANOTHER SPEAKER PROMOTING THE DEVELOPMENT EARLIER WHEN ASKED BY BOARD MEMBER THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT CAN BE USED TO SANCTION DEVELOPER PROJECTS IN INCREASED HEIGHT IN OUR COMMUNITY. EITHER WAY WITH CAR TRAFFIC WITH THE COMMERCIALIZATION OF THE COMMUNITY THESE PROJECTS ARE SIMPLE AGAINST THE INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY OF PONTE VEDRA.

WHY THIS MATTERS THERE'S A LEGAL STANDARD OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN THE FORD LEGAL WEBSITE UNDER REGISTRY OR ATTEMPT, 112.311 ARTICLE SIX. IT IS DECLARED TO BE THE POLICY OF THE STATE THE PUBLIC OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES STATE AND LOCAL OR

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YOU YOURSELF ARE KNOWN FOR PROMOTING BENEFICIAL DEVEL DEVELOPMENT, THE STATE DEVELOPMENT HAS GREETED THE OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE BETTER SCHOOLS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE BETTER PARTS AND TRANSPORTATION PERMITS DEVELOPERS IN THIS COUNTY WITH A HUGE DEVELOPMENT OF MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF IMPROVING TO THE COUNTY.

I URGE YOU TO WRECK A NICE THIS PROJECT IS NOT CREATE BETTER SCHOOLS AND DOES NOT MAKE BETTER PARTS AND IF EXPERT TRANSPORTATION MOST IMPORTANT IS NOT IN A PERMIT TO THE COMM COMMUNITY. ONLY A 15 SECONDS LEFT AT THAT SEPARATE THE PROJECT IS UNEQUIVOCALLY CAN SUPPORT BUT INTEREST IN URGE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE LONG-STANDING RATIFICATION OF ALLOWING RAMPANT GROWTH IN EARLY GROWTH BURDEN COMMUNITY. ENTER PREVENTED DECISION THAT IF APPROVED DISASTROUS FOR CONSTITUENTS AND CAUSE SEVERE IMPACT OF THE PRESENT AND FUTURE OF PONTE VEDRA TRADE IN SUMMARY I REQUEST THE BOARD CONSIDERS WHAT MATTERS LEGALLY AND MORALLY, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT AMBIGUOUS IN NATURE AND INTENTIONAL AND IGNORING OF THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> WHAT IS YOUR STREET ADDRESS.

>> 1028 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. >> THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS DAVID W JOHNSON I LIVE AT 600 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. THAT'S BEEN MY PRESENTED RESIDENT SINCE 1997. AND I WANT TO TALK BUT THE PALMER BUILDING. I LOOK OUT MY WINDOW AT THE BUILDING LOT AND IT'S QUITE A PRETTY CORNER IS VERY OPEN AND BUSY CORNER AND THERE ARE JOGGERS AND PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOG AND BABY CARRIAGES AND FITNESS GROUPS WALKING ALONG IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO SEE. AND IT SHOULD REMAIN OPEN TRADE THERE'S NO REASON AND NO DIFFICULTIES ON THIS PROPERTY THAT CAN'T BE OVERCOME AND STAY WITHIN THE REGULATION.

THE PROPERTY IS IT USED FOR ANY LIFE FUNCTION OR HOTEL FUNCTION EXCEPT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE. AS FAR AS THE BUILDING HEIGHT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE THIS BUILDING IS 70 FEET FROM THE RESIDENCE TO THE NORTH AND THAT MEANS UNDER THE CURRENT OVERLAY OF THE CORRIDOR IT WOULD BETWEEN 50 THAT'S 25 ACTUAL FEET PLUS OR MINUS MAGICAL NUMBER THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IN THIS COULD BE 35 FEET AND AM STILL CONFUSED OF THE OVERALL HEIGHT WHATEVER THE HIGH IS THE ENGINEERS CAN FIGURE OUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING REGARDLESS OF THE UNDERLYING MET HAS TO BE AND I THANK YOU SHOULD REMAIN THE PURVIEW OF THE ZONING REGULATION AS STATED I THINK THE ENTIRE BUILDING SHOULD BE EXCLUDED IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSES UP AND DOWN THERE ARE 32 HOUSES NORTH AND THEY HAVE A LARGE SETBACK AND THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT WHICH IS 25 FEET OR LESS IF YOU PUT A 53-FOOT BUILDING OR 35-FOOT BUILDING ON THAT CORNER IS GOING TO CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE CHARACTER OF THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FURTHERMORE IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PUT CONCRETE ON EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE PROPERTY AND NO SETBACKS AND REQUIREMENTS ANYTHING TO GO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TOGETHER AND VERY MUCH HARM THE RESIDENCE IN CARLISLE AND THOSE PEOPLE ON RETAIL DRIVE IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE LAGOON. IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS AND% NOT EXCLUDED FROM THE POD YOU COULD EXCLUDE THESE WAIVERS FROM

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MICHAEL BOERSMA RESIDENT OF 1185 SOPHOMORE CIRCLE, A BITTER RESIDENT OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR ABOUT 31 YEARS AND HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND FORGIVE ME I HEARD THIS TERM USED IN THE FIRST MEETING AT THE ARC BUT I COME BEFORE YOU AS EVERYDAY PEOPLE.

IN SOME OF THE REMARKS I WANT TO MAKE AND GET TO GO BACK TO APPLICANT'S OPENING REMARKS. NOT ONLY APPLICANTS BUT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WHERE WE WERE INTRODUCED TO A PROJECT THAT WAS DESIGNED TO RENOVATE THIS PROPERTY AND IN MY VIEW I DON'T SEE AS A RENOVATION WHEN ESSENTIALLY THERE IS AN EXPANSION OF 500,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT SEEMS TO BE MORE, I WANT SAME EXPLOSION BUT IT IS CLEARLY AN EXPANSION. THE TERMS THAT HE REPEATEDLY AT LEAST FROM THE PUBLIC NOT SO MUCH AN ADVOCATE ARE WORDS LIKE MASS, DENSITY. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WHEN THERE IS DISCUSSIONS AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS.

SOMEBODY IN THE GROUP BLURTS OUT THE TRUTH.

I WANT TO SHARE A COMMENT MADE FROM WHERE YOU SIT AT THE LAST MEETING THAT I CAME TO AND AFTER ALL THE DISCUSSION 11 HOURS INTO THIS THING WHAT IS COMMISSIONERS OF THE PRIOR BOARD SAID AND I QUOTE TOO MUCH TOO HIGH. SOMETIMES AN OUTBURST THE MAN IN THE STREET BLURTS OUT THE TRUTH. I WOULD SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE WHEN I CAME TODAY I SAID HOW MUCH IS 500,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE IN IS 75000 SQUARE FEET AND AT ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING SO THIS EXPANSION BUILDINGS ARE GETTING LONGER AND GOING HIGHER AND NEW BUILDINGS ARE COMING UP.

SEVEN TIMES 75000 TIMES 72 TIMES THAT'S HOW BIG THIS IS GOING TO BE. THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE BOARD DISCUSSED WERE A PLANNER FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST THAT I'VE SEEN COME BEFORE THIS BOARD WE SIT HERE TODAY WITH THE BOARD THAT A SHORT THREE MEMBERS. WE ARE RUNNING ON HARDLY ANYTHING AND TO ME FOR SOMETHING OF THIS SCOPE TO BE DECIDED BY FOUR MEMBERS IT SEEMS INAPPROPRIATE AND AGAIN, THIS EXPANSION THIS IS NOT A RENOVATION, THIS IS AN EXPANSION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR MY NAME IS ROBERT MCVEIGH FROM TARPON ROAD AND HAVE SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOU G

GUYS. >> YOU WILL HAVE TO HAND THEM TO

STAFF. >> I REPRESENT THE VICTIMS ON DOLPHIN COVE WHICH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD OF 500 HOMES WEST OF THE RESORT ON A 1A. AS YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS JUST VERY DIFFERENT REASON OF PETROLEUM AND WE WERE PROMISED ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE PACKET THAT I JUST SENT YOU OR THAT THEY ARE BRINGING TO YOU, THEY ASSURED US IN THE CONTEXT OF THE E-MAIL STRAIGHT FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT THAT MOST OF THE TREES I MET PROPERTY WOULD BE SAVED AND YOU COULD SEE THE BEFORE AND AFTER AND I INCLUDED THE TREE PLAN THAT THE E-MAIL TO ME AS WELL SHOWING LARGE AREAS OF TREES TO BE PRESERVED NONE OF THAT WAS SAVED NOT ONE DAMN TREE IN MY BACKYARD IN 26 HOMES ALONG THE PERIMETER THE TRUST, CREDIBILITY IS OUT THE WINDOW WITH THIS COMPANY AND THIS IS WITHOUT A PUD. IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH A

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THOSE ARE RULES THAT THE CITIZENS DEMANDED BE PUT IN PLACE OUT THERE. THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY CUT THE UTILITY LINES TWICE AND KNOCKED MY HOUSE THAT WITH INTERNET FOR 10 DAYS DURING COVID, LOSS OF INCOME I WORK FROM HOME MY TYPE OF WORK I CONNECTED TO STARBUCKS.

THAT WAS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING NO EMPATHY OR SUPPORT NO REACH OUT FROM THEM AND THERE'S A COUPLE STATE SENATE BILL 102 THE JUST PASSED INTO LAW JULY 1. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE LINK WHICH OF THE BILL YOU COULD NOT VOTE ON THIS STUFF TODAY.

THAT BILL EXTENDS THE RIGHTS OF A PUD TO ANY PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN ANY DEVELOPER WITHIN 1 MILE RADIUS THE FURTHEST EXTREME PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS TRANSFERRING THOSE RIGHTS AND WHAT EVERYTHIG THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE BOULEVARD OVER TO THIS PARCEL A QUARTER OF A MILE TO BEHIND THE GAS STATION AND CARWASH. THE RAMIFICATIONS WITHOUT KNOWING THAT LONG-TERM COULD BE DEVASTATION FOR PONTE VEDRA AND IMPACTS THE SCHOOLS, THE TRAFFIC AND THE DENSITY THAT THEY CAN PUT ON THE 31 ACRES IN THE HEIGHTS OF 50 OR 60 FEET BECAUSE OF THE BILL THAT WAS JUST PAST IN MANY PEOPLE MIGHT NOT OF KNOWN ABOUT IT STATE SENATE BILL STATE AND TRANSACTION SEE READ IT BEFORE YOU VOTE. THANK YOU.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> MY NAME IS.

[INAUDIBLE] PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

WE SAID THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE AND WE SAY IT AGAIN WE ARE NOT AGAINST RENOVATING PONTE VEDRA. ON THE CONTRARY WE ARE ENCOURAGING IT OUR PROBLEM IS WITH THIS PLAN THAT IS NOT IN GOOD FAITH AND TRANSPARENT. I'M NOT A LAWYER BUT RELYING ON MY COMMON SENSE SO MANY THAT CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED.

LET'S LOOK AT WAIVER NUMBER EIGHT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO USE THEIR 120 FEET TO 568.

THE MASTER PLAN IT SAYS 568-FOOT BUILDING IS APPLICABLE TO THE ENTIRE PONTE VEDRA RESORT WHICH IS ANYONE ACRES.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD 560 BUILDINGS 10 OR EVEN MORE, NOBODY KNOWS. YOU TRANSPARENT PLAN WRITTEN IN GOOD FAITH WOULD CLEARLY SPECIFY THAT THE 568 REQUESTED IS STRICTLY FOR A SPECIFIC BUILDING AND NOT APPLICABLE TO ANY OTHER BUILDINGS. IF WE LOOK FOR EXAMPLE TO WAIVER NUMBER NINE AND APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REUSE THE 20 FEET FRONT YARD TO 5 FEET. AGAIN IN THEIR PLAN IS SAYS THE 5 FEET FRONT YARD IS APPLICABLE TO THE ENTIRE 91 ACRES.

SHOULD WE ASSUME ANY NEW BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE ONLY .

AGAIN WE DO NOT KNOW. IF THE 5 FEET FRONT YARD MAKES OUR STREET LOOK LIKE FIRST STREET IN JACKSONVILLE BEACH THIS AND VAGUELY OF LANGUAGE IS USED FOR WHAT PLAN.

IF THE APPLICANT INTENTION IS NOT TO DO WHAT THEY WROTE TO BE ABLE TO DO, THEN WHAT IS BEHIND THE VAGUE EVASIVE PLAN WE DON'T KNOW. ONE CANNOT COMMIT TO A COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS TO THE VAGUE BADLY DRAFTED PLAN MANY BUILDINGS ARE NOT EVEN DESIGN THE ONES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO ASSESS CONCEPTUAL AND MAY BE REVISED.

WHAT WORRIES US THE MOST ONCE THIS IS APPROVED THEN THERE WILL

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THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL I LIVE AT ONE-ON-ONE GREEN BURRELL LANE THIS IS NOT MY STOMPING GROUNDS BUT I AM A CONCERNED MEMBER OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY I'M NOT ANTIDEVELOPMENT AND FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK ONE PHRASE THAT WAS REPEATED MANY TIMES I THINK I COUNTED EIGHT TIMES IN THE PRESENTATION OF THIS PROJECT IN THE NAME OF TRANSPARENCY.

AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN WITH NO BACKGROUND IN REAL ESTATE BUT TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN I FOUND VERY LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PLAN AND SPECIFICS WITH THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TODAY. THE DENSITY, THE HEIGHT, THE EXPANSE, COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS I DON'T THINK IT CONSIDERS THE FLAVOR AND THE CHARACTER LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS WHICH ARE BEAUTIFULLY DONE AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION. I LOVE THE AREA IS GORGEOUS AND IT PROBABLY DOES NEED RENOVATION BUT BUILDINGS THAT WERE ALREADY 72 FEET TALKING ABOUT FINAL FLOOR ELEVATION AND RAISING UP FROM THERE, THESE ARE CONCERNS AND I THINK THE CITIZENS WANT TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS. IF THIS IS BEEN IN THE PROCESS FOR FOUR YEARS THEN WHY ARE WE IN A RATIONALE WHY ARE THERE NOT TWO SEPARATE PRESENTATIONS IT SEEMS EVEN THOUGH THE RUN BY THE SAME COMPANY AND OWNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE IT SEEMS A DIFFERENT ENTITIES. I KIND OF AGREE NOT THAT THE SEVER NEEDS TO BE FAILED BUT WITH THE WAIVERS MAYBE THEY COULD BE SEPARATED AND COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.

AGAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> MY NAME IS MARK NICKERSON AND MY AREA OF CONCERN WITH THE PRESIDENT, 21 DOLPHIN BOULEVARD PONTE VEDRA AND PRESIDENT OF THE DOLPHIN CODE ASSOCIATION FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS NOW. MY CONCERN THE TRACK RECORD IN THE CLEARING OF THE LAND TO CREATE LAND FOR THE GAS STATION IN THE CARWASH THAT WAS DONE WITH LATE-NIGHT DEALINGS DURING COVID OVER HOLIDAY WEEKEND. EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WE'VE SEEN MISSTATEMENTS AND THE LACK OF FOLLOW-THROUGH IN TREES BE IN THE CURRENT THING THAT THEY PROMISED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND THEY ALLUDED TO IT WE HAVE A MILE FROM THE CLUB AND OUR CONCERN UNDER SENATE BILL 102 THAT THEY CAN BILL UNDER BUILD ANYTHING ON THE PARCEL OF LAND READY TO GO THAT MEETS THE SAME HEIGHT OF THE CLUB HEIGHT.

AND TO FURTHER ILLUSTRATE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS IS WHY WERE CONCERNED RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 26 LANDOWNERS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THEIR BACKYARD AND SEEN A GIANT FIELD OF DIRT MAYBE SOME GRASS, THOSE LANDOWNERS ONCE THEY APPROVE A 35-FOOT BUILDING THOSE LANDOWNERS WILL NOT BE EXPANDED TO 50 PEOPLE ALL LOOKING UP AT A BUILDING THAT TOWERS OVER ANYTHING AND DOLPHIN COVE. YOU APPROVE 45 OR 50 FEET AND IT GOES UP THE PAGE. NOW WERE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF HUNDRED. IF IT'S ILLOGICAL TO 60 OR 70 FEET EVERYBODY AND DOLPHIN COVE AS FAR WEST AS MARSH LANDING AND MAYBE AS FAR EAST AS SAN JUAN ROAD, NOBODY WANTS THIS NOBODY WANTS TO SET THE PRECEDENT IN UNKNOWING GOING TO BE TOLD DOLPHIN CODE HAS NOTHING TO DO THIS PROJECT.

OF COURSE IT DOES IT IS AN IMAGE AND REPUTATION OF HONESTY AND SINCERITY. IF YOU GO AND BUILD THOSE BUILDINGS YOU WILL SETBACK TRAFFIC YOU WILL BE IMPACTING A MILLION THINGS AND IS TO MAKE THE ALMIGHTY BUCK ON THE

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YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS?

>> MY NAME IS CHRISTY AUSTIN AND I LIVED IN PONTE VEDRA SINCE 1950 AND MY GRANDFATHER OWNED A HOUSE HERE AND MY PARENTS OWNED A HOUSE HERE IN MY HUSBAND AND I OWN A HOUSE HERE.

OUR ADDRESS IS 829 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD.

SOME BEACHES IN THE U.S. HAVE A FEELING OF HOME ESPECIAL SENSE OF COMING HOME WHEN YOU ARRIVE. PONTE VEDRA BEACH IS ONE OF THE BEACHES. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HISTORIC ANCHORAGE WERE PASSED WITH THE ORIGINAL PONTE VEDRA CLUB HAS DISAPPEARED THROUGH NOT BEING TOO BIG OR TOO GRAND THE SPIRIT OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH IS STILL HERE THE INCREASE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE THIRTY-YEAR GAIT DEVELOPMENT IS THIS 70% OVER 30 YEARS IN A WHOPPING 125% FOR THE LODGE AND MORE CAN BE ADDED THE CURRENT PROPOSAL OF THE MASSIVE INCREASE IS A LOGIC, DACIAN TEACHER RADICALLY RAISE THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE AT THE BEACH MUCH LARGER GYMS, SPORTS FACILITIES AND ADD ADDITIONAL DINING SPACE CONFERENCE IN RECEPTION ROOMS AND SURFACE AREAS IN THE KNOCK ON EFFECT WILL ADD TO THE TENABLE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND NOISE ON THE TOOLING BOULEVARD AND THE SIDE ROADS ALSO WILL SURFACE VEHICLES.

RELAX CLUB ATMOSPHERE WILL DISAPPEAR AND BE REPLACED WITH BUSINESS CONFERENCES AND TOURIST IS THIS THE TAXPAYING RESIDENTS WANT, NO IT ISN'T. THE GATE SHOULD NOT HAVE A VARIANCE OF ANY. QUALITY OF LIFE IS PEACEFUL AND BEAUTIFUL FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE LOW-LYING AREA HAS THE SPORT AVOIDED THE BIG RESORT EXISTENCE OF WEST PALM BEACH AND MIAMI IN IT SIMILAR TO THE PROSPEROUS BEACH A FEW HOURS DRIVE SOUTH NO HIGH BUILDINGS HERE AND THIS INCLUDES CLUBS AND RETAIL.

LET US REMEMBER IT IS THE HOMEOWNERS THAT PAY A LOT OF TAX AND ALTHOUGH WE MAY GRUMBLE WE APPRECIATE THE WONDERFUL LIFE AND AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE PLEASE DO NOT, DUE TO PRESSURE DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE. A HAWK THIS IS HER HEALTH ALMOST DAILY AND HAS A CORNER ON HIT THE ROOF IT'S HIS FAVORITE SPOT WHERE HE HUNTS UNDISTURBED FOR MANY AMENITIES HERE WE MUST NOT SELL OUT TO ANY DEVELOPERS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC

SPEAKERS? >> IF NOT WERE CLOSING THE FLOOR AND WE WILL BE BACK FOR REB REBUTTAL.

>> A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES MR. CHAIRMAN OF BOARD MEMBERS.

I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THIS BUT FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE APPLICATION MATERIAL WHICH INCLUDED THE MAPS THE ARCHITECTURAL EXHIBITS THE UNIFIED LAND ALL THAT AND THE PUBLIC RECORD. IT IS INCORPORATED AS IS YOUR STAFF REPORT SO WE DID NOT GO OVER EVERY SINGLE DETAIL THE DOCUMENTS WITH YOU IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT TO THE BOARD THAT THE APPLICATION MATERIALS ARE IN YOUR PACKAGE ANY OF THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO ASK US ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM AS YOU SEE FIT.

ALSO PUD TEXT CLEARLY SAYS THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL UNITS SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR PARKS AND NO IMPACT ON SCHOOLS AND THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AGAIN THAT ARE SET FORTH IN TABLE F1 ARE THE MAXIMUM THAT WILL BE PERMITTED.

JUST MENTIONING THE DOLPHIN CO-PROPERTY AGAIN IS NOT INCLUDED WITHIN THE PUD AND HAS COMMERCIAL ZONING AND HAS FOR DECADES AND WHATEVER CAN OCCUR ON THAT PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE CAN OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY. WERE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

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ATTENTION. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE A FEW. FIRST OFF I THINK WITH THE TWO SPEAKERS ARE REFERRING TO IS THE LOCAL ACT IT SAYS WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF ANY BUILDING WITHIN 1 MILE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE THE SITE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH IS HARD TO BELIEVE WHATEVER HAPPENED ON THE GATE PARCEL THAT YOU CAN GO UP TO THE HEIGHT OF WHATEVER THAT HEIGHT IS AND NOT THE GATE STATION ZONED COMMERCIAL. WHAT WITH THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT BE.

>> I BELIEVE IT'S 35 FEET BUT THERE ARE SAWGRASS VILLAGE TO BUILDINGS THAT ARE 75 FEET TOTAL IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE OAK BRIDGE GOLF DEVELOPMENT HAS APPROVAL FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE 58 FETAL. THOSE ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS TODAY IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRANSFER OF BUILDING HEIGHT BUT IT IS NOT THE INTENT THIS IS A RESORT RELATED PUD AND IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO LIVE LOCAL ON THE PROPERTY IS COMMERCIALLY

ZONED NOW. >> DO WE ALREADY HAVE BUILDINGS

55 FEET TALL. >> YES.

>> WE ALREADY HAVE THEM. >> ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.

>> THEY ARE. >> SO WE ARE NOT CHANGING THEM.

>> WE DECIDED CARLISLE AT THE WORST SPOT IS ALMOST 30 FEET SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

YOU TOLD ME 18.3 FEET WE HAVE A 10-FOOT BACK ON OUR SIDE SO ALMOST 30 FEET. THE ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

THIS PROBABLY IS NOT A QUESTION BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TALL THE CARLISLE'S BUT IT LOOKS FIVE STORIES TALL.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STORIES BUT I BELIEVE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THE LAST HEARING SAID IT WAS ABOUT 55 FETAL.

ON THE MDP MAP QUESTION THIS MAY BE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF BUT THE BUILDING PRINCE'S THAT WERE LOOKING AT MAINLY ON THE ORP IS AN L-SHAPED BUILDING THE SWIMMING POOL AT THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE SITE IN THE GARAGE IN THE BACK.

HE PRODDED IN MDP MAP THAT HAS THE ALL COMPLETELY REVERSED WITH THE SOUTHSIDE OF THE BUILDING UP AGAINST THE CARLISLE BUILDING DID YOU TELL THEM THAT'S OKAY THAT THEY COULD PROCEED WITHOUT

THE REMIT OF THE CRITERIA. >> THEY MAY REQUIRE A MODIFICATION BUT IT WOULD NOT COME BACK TO SUPPORT.

>> I THEN ASKED THE APPLICANT WE HAVE THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE I HAVE EVERY FAITH IN GATE PETROLEUM OF WHAT THEY SAY THEY GOING TO DO THE HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WITH THE

PUBLIC THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. >> MR. CHAIRMAN GIVE ME A MINUTE

TO FIND MY APPROPRIATE SLIDE. >> I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE SLIDESHOW TO CATCH UP, SORRY. SORRY IT IS GOING SLOW.

GIVE ME A MINUTE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN THIS MAP ARE USED TO MAXIMUM BUILDING LENGTH MAP TO SHOW YOU.

MY CLIENT IS WILLING TO SAY TO YOUR BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT THIS BUILDING L-SHAPED IF YOU WILL WE WILL AGREE TO THE CONFIGURATION RIGHT THERE ON THE RECORD.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER% QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THE CHANGE OVER THE YEARS OF THIS IS BEEN BUILT IN TERMS OF SEA LEVEL RISE AND THE IMPACT OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO I'M

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IS THAT CORRECT? >> WE CONTINUE THE SEALEVEL RISE AND WERE STUDYING FOR A FEDERAL CONTRACT RESILIENCY FOR CITIES

AROUND THE NATION. >> IN THIS AREA WHAT WOULD YOU SAY VELOCITY HAS GONE UP HAS IT GONE DOWN?

>> IT HAS NOT GONE DOWN I HESITATE TO SAY THAT ON RECORD AT HER LOWEST CERTAINTY BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S 13 IN ONE AREA AND 12 AND ANOTHER AND IT CAN ONLY GO UP FROM HERE.

>> THE 5-FOOT SETBACK THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE L-SHAPED BUILDINGS YOU'RE NOT PLANNING LEAVES ON THE STREET AND THE PLANS SHOW THE 5-FOOT SETBACK ON THE BOULEVARD FOR VERY LIMITED AREAS, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> FOR THE RECORD THAT IS PRIMARILY RELATED TO EXISTING CONDITIONS IN PONTE VEDRA. WE HAVE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS WITH THE EXISTING CIRCLE THAT ARE ON THE BOULEVARD SO THE IDEA IS TO GRANDFATHER THE BUILDINGS IN AND YOU SAW THE ARCHITECTURE.

NO WHAT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE PARTICULARLY SPORT AND SERVE, THOSE RENDERINGS ARE IN EXHIBIT D HE COULD TO THE BUILDING FAÇADE, YOU CAN SEE THE RELIEF THOSE TWO BUILDINGS IN PARTICULAR FOR THE ARCHITECTURE ARE IN EXHIBIT D AND THEIR BINDING ON THE PROPERTY AND WE AGREED TO THAT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS APPROVED THE ARCHITECTURE FOR THE BUILDING.

THAT ARCHITECTURE IS SET. AGAIN FOR THE MAIN REASON FOR THE 5-FOOT SETBACK HERE WE GO. I'M SORRY LET ME GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. LET ME GIVE THIS TO NOAH.

>> A RELIGIOUS WANT YOU TO SPEAK TO THE FRONT SETBACK ON THE

BUILDING. >> I ASKED THE QUESTION WRONG.

>> THE BUILDING ON THE OR PARCEL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WILL BE

SETBACK 20 FEET. >> THAT IS CORRECT THERE IS A UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE EASTERN PORTION THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW TO

BUILD IN THE AREA. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M ABOUT DONE. >> DID YOU DO A SIGNIFICANT

NATURAL COMMUNITY STUDY. >> WE DID NOT WE ANALYZE THE ENVIRONMENTAL BUT THIS IS THE BUILDING CONDITION THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITY ARE WETLAND BENEATH THAT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS EXISTED FOR 100 YEARS IN THE LODGE IS BUILT IN THE ENVIRONMENT ALREADY IN THE LAGOON OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER IS A LAGOON IN THE PROPERTY SHOW YOU HERE.

YOU CANNOT REALLY SEE IT. HERE IS THE CARLISLE THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNED BY PONTE VEDRA CORPORATION THIS IS NOT OWNED BY THE CORPORATION SO THERE'S NO INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING THERE IS EXISTING STORM WATER POND HERE THAT HAS GROWN

UP BUT IT'S A STORMWATER POND. >> IN OTHER WORDS THE STATEMENT THAT YOU JUST SAID THE AREA ON THE PARCEL IS ALREADY DEVELOPED

AND WE KNOW TORTOISES. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> THE POWERPOINT WERE SHOWING THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND COVERING THE WHOLE LOT WHAT IS YOUR LOT COVERAGE FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT AND CAN YOU GIVE THE

PIECE FOR THE CARLISLE. >> I DON'T KNOW FOR THE CARLISLE

ITSELF BUT I WILL PUT THIS UP. >> I'M SURE IT'S IN THE TEXT.

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>> I'M GOING TO POINT YOU IN GENERAL TO THE PUD TEXT IN AND

GOING TO SHOW YOU ON THE SCREEN. >> SORRY MR. GREEN THIS IS TABLE G1 AND I HAD THE REDLINE AND I'M SORRY THIS IS SEPTEMBER 1 VERSION AND IT TALKS ABOUT INVER APPLICABLE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND THIS IS THE SAME THING IF YOU GO BACK TO ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE THIS WOULD BE ON NOTE SIX THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH INTENSITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPLICABLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AREAS WITHIN THE PROPERTIES IN THE SAME IS SAID IN THE FOLLOWING.

THEY WILL BE MEASURED BY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WITHIN THE

PROPERTIES. >> CAN WE GET A NUMBER OF ABOUT

WHAT THAT IS. >> THE MAXIMUM THAT IS ALLOWED IS IN SECTION V AS IN VICTORY OF THE PUD TEXT ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE THAT IS THE MAXIMUM BUT I ALSO POINT YOU BACK TO TABLE F1 WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT TABLE EVEN THOUGH THE SAR AND ISR MAY BE HIGHER BY THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN EXHIBIT F1 TALKS ABOUT THE MAXIMUM OF RESORT SPACE WITHIN EACH OF THE PROPERTIES.

>> THERE IS A MAX THIS WAY AND A MAX THIS WAY.

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

>> THE MAXIMUM IS SET OUT IN SECTION V ALLOWED IN THE LAND USE WE DID THE CALCULATION FOR THE RECORD BUT AGAIN IT WILL NOT BE THAT MUCH BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS ON THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IN SECTION F1 AND ALSO TO HIS POINT WE TRIED TO PUT TABLES AND HEAR SO THE TABLES OF G1 ARE SETBACKS ISR, FIR AND TABLE G2 IS ALL OF THE MAXIMUM BUILDING LINKS SO WE BUILT A LOT OF DETAIL INTO THIS AND I'LL SAY FOR THE RECORD THIS IS WHAT OF THE MOST DETAILED PUD'S I'VE EVER DONE.

>> I THINK HE'S ASKING JIM AN APPROXIMATION OF THE BUILDINGS

THAT ARE DRAWN. >> IS IT 50%, 40%.

>> IT IS OKAY TO SAY NO. >> THE ISSUE IS IS GOING TO BE PHASED OVER TIME SO WE HAVE THE SURF CLUB DESIGN AND NOAH HAS THE LODGE FITNESS CENTER BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FUTURE BUILDINGS DESIGNED. LITERALLY THE INTENT THAT THE END IN THE OCEANFRONT LODGE STAY AS THEY ARE IN EDITION OF CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE THAT IS NOT THE INTENTION TO TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN AND START ALL OVER.

>> ANSWER MY QUESTION. NOT TO THE DETAIL THAT I WANT BECAUSE I'M EXCLUDING POOLS AND ALL OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT BUILDING SPACE. I AM FINE.

>> THE OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU. WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR EMOTION. MEGAN.

>> BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND YOU EXPLAINED A LOT ABOUT THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION AND HOW YOU CALCULATED THAT AND IT WAS HELPFUL AS WELL.

CONSIDERING HER PURVIE IS ONLY FOR THE OR PORTION IN THE PORTION RELATED TO IT BASED ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN MY OPINION IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA DOES NOT

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ADDING THIS PORTION AND TRANSFERRING INTO A PUD FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON IT IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD GO THERE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS EXISTING I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT AS PRESENTED THE BUILDING HEIGHT WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CARLISLE IS.

ADDITIONALLY THE 10-FOOT SETBACK WILL ALSO ADD ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT FOR THE WESTERN PORTION THOSE HOUSES IMPACTED FROM THE BACK VIEW OF THE GARAGE THEY WILL HAVE A BUFFER WITH THE LAGOON, THE ONE AND THE RESERVE IT WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS IN THE BACK EITHER.

AS FOR THE INCREMENTAL AND VP MAPS AND HAVE AN ISSUE OF EITHER THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMMON THAT WE SEE ALL THE TIME AND MRS PRESENTED US WITH PUD'S THAT CONTAIN THOSE.

MY LAST, BEFORE I GET TO A MOTION IS MR. HARRIS HAD A SLIGHT OFFENSE THAT YOU INSINUATED THAT WE MAY HAVE A COMPACT OF INTEREST. WE ARE ETHICALLY BOUND TO DECLARE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BEFORE THIS IS EVEN HEARD.

THE FACT THAT NOBODY DID THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE CLUB I HAVE NEVER BEEN A MEMBER OF THE CLUB, THE ONLY CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT IT MAY HAVE IS THAT I GO TO THE GAS STATION ON MY WAY TO WORK. WITH THAT BEING SAID MY MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2023 - 0 TWO PONTE VEDRA RESORT

BASED UPON THE FACT PROVIDED. >> I'M ALSO GUILTY OF USING THE GATE FACILITY OF GAS AND I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE CLUB.

ALSO GET THE MOTION AND I APPRECIATE THE POINT THAT YOU MADE DURING YOUR MOTION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I REFLECT VOTING ON.

A NARROW AMOUNT OF THE PUBLIC PROJCTS.

>> ALSO CAN THE MOTION. >> WAVE MOTION IN THE SECOND.

[Agency Reports]

>> I'M ACTUALLY A GATE REWARDS MEMBER THE 10 CENTS OFF MY GAS, HERE TODAY. TEN CENTS OFF A GALLON.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. >> THE MOTION PASSES 4 - 0.

>> MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL.

>> ANYTHING FROM

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