Aug 03, 2023 Planning and Zoning Agency

[Call meeting to order. ]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT, MEAGHAN, PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT.

>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC HAVE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON AREAS OF JURISDICTION AND THE YOU CAN WILL I CAN WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD IN THE FOYER. ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS WOULD BE HEARD IN ADDITION TO THE CHAIRMAN.

SPEAKER CORDS WILL BE TURNED INTO STAFF.

THE PUBLIC WILL SPEAK FOR A LENGTH OF TIME DES ANYTHING THAT THE BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH IS THREE MINUTES.

SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY WHO THEY REPRESENT AND STATE THEM ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND THE FACT THAT THE TESTIMONY IS NOT SOUTHERN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.

IF A PERSON REPEELS ANY DECISION ANY MATTER OF THE PROCEEDING, YOU MAY NEED A RECORD AND MAY NEED TO DETERMINE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD SHOULD BE MADE, THE TESTIMONY EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED .ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED, DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS AND WRITTEN STATEMENTS WILL BE MAINTAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD.

THE RECORD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE AGENCY, COUNTY AND ANY REVIEW OF APPEAL RELATING TO THE ITEM.

BOARD MEMBERS, AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE IF THEY HAD ANY COMMUNICATION OF THE APPLICANT AND ANY ITEM HEARD

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 6/01/2023 and 6/15/2023]

WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.

DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUE AND AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.

[Public Comments.]

>> ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF JUNE 1 AND JUNE 15. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY, THAT MOTION PASSES. NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO A TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD YOU CAN SPEAK OF ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA OR EVEN IF IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS AS THEY ARE BROUGHT UP.

SO YOU CAN SPEAK AT THIS TIME IF YOU WOULD LIKE OR YOU CAN SPEAK NOW. MEGAN, DO WE HAVE ANY -- NO, DOES ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?

YES, COME ON UP, MR. EVANOWSKI. >> CHUCK EVANOWSKI.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE WEB SITE AND THE AGENDA AND MINUTES.

THE MINUTES HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED, I THINK, SINCE FEBRUARY. AND I KNOW YOU APPROVED THE MINUTE PREVIOUS. AND THE AGENDA -- THE LAST AGENDA THAT IS SHOWING UP IS 6/20.

I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES THE UPDATING ON THE WEB SITE.

>>GREG MATOVINAR: ACTUALLY WE ARE BEHIND FOR A WEIRD A TIME.

A FEW OF THOSE OLDER PERIODS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.

OKAY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THERE IS NO ONE HERE TO EXPECTS TO SPEAK TO CPA 2023-01 AND PUD 2023-01, STATE ROAD 207 INFILL MULTIFAMILY PUD, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE READVERTISED AND RENOTICED ONCE THAT HEARING IS SCHEDULED. PUT OFF TO A DATE UNCERTAIN.

ANYONE HERE WHO NEEDS TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM -- THOSE ITEMS?

>> YOU SAID IT HAS BEEN PUT OFF. SO IT IS NOT GOING TO BE HEARD

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TODAY? >>GREG MATOVINA: THAT'S CORRECT,

MA'AM. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>>GREG MATOVINA: NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> 3209, ST. AUGUSTINE, TAMMY ZIVITZ AND MY HUSBAND, ERIC. WE WERE JUST BASICALLY WONDER GOING WE WILL LOSE OUR WOODS BEHIND OUR HOME AND OR IF THERE WILL BE ANY KIND OF A RETAINMENT WALL THERE BETWEEN THE PUD AND

US. >>GREG MATOVINA: MA'AM, THIS BODY HAS NOT SEEN THE ITEM. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.

>> I HAVE GOT THE LETTER. >>GREG MATOVINA: GET WITH STAFF OUTSIDE THIS MEETING AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND COME BACK TO THE MEETING IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO

THAT ITEM. >> STAFF?

WHO DO I CALL OR E-MAIL? >>TERESA BISHIP: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL ME. TERESA BISHOP, I AM THE PLANNING MANAGER. YOU ARE WELCOME TO GIVE ME A

CALL 209-0851. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>TERESA BISHOP: YOU ARE WELCOME.

[1. Election of Chair and Vice-Chair.]

>>GREG MATOVINA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SORRY FOR THE TROUBLE. NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS?

>>CLERK: NO, SIR. >>GREG MATOVINA: MA'AM, WILL YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, IF YOU HAVE NOT?

OKAY, THANK YOU. >> WHAT ITEM NUMBER WAS THAT

AGAIN? >>GREG MATOVINA: NOT ANY HISTORY ITEMS NUMBERED, ON THE BOTTOM BELOW NUMBER 8.

>> I GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

>>GREG MATOVINA: GOING BACK TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA TO

NUMBER 1, TERESA. >>TERESA BISHOP: YES, THANK YOU.

TERESA BISHOP, PLANNING MANAGER. THIS IS THE LEGISLATURE OF YOUR CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR. I THINK MR. MATOVINA, YOU HAVE BEEN CHAIR FOR TWO YEARS NOW. AUGUST 17 MEET A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL -- A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY BE COMING IN TO SPEAK AND WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU REGARDING THE GUIDANCE OF THAT MEETING FOR THE AUGUST 17 MEETING.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE PUTTING THIS OFF UNTIL A FUTURE MEETING AFTER THAT MEETING TO HAVE MORE CONTINUITY GOING INTO THE CONTROVERSIAL ITEM.

>>GREG MATOVINA: WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD?

>> I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA PROBABLY.

>> IS THERE ANY RUSH? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

A DATE CERTAIN? >>TERESA BISHOP: A MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO LOOK AT THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.

>>GREG MATOVINA: RUMOR HAS IT IF THAT ITEMS EXTENDS LONG AND WE CONTINUE IT, THAT IT WILL BE CONTINUED TO THE SECOND MEETING,

DATE SNERN LATE SEPTEMBER. >>TERESA BISHOP: THAT'S CORRECT,

YES, SIR. >>GREG MATOVINA: IF WE FOLLOW THROUGH, IT MIGHT BE OCTOBER. ANYBODY HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO

WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ELLEN AVERY SMITH, IN ST. AUGUSTINE. THE PONDRE VISTA PUD THAT I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. WHILE ALL OF YOU ARE VERY INTELLIGENT AND YOU VERY WELL KNOW THE PROCEDURAL RULES OF THIS BOARD. GIVEN THE LACK OF -- OR THE MISINFORMATION THAT IS GOING AROUND ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC EITHER ARE AWARE OF YOUR PROCEDURAL RULES OR WILL TRY -- OR AGREE TO ABIDE BY YOUR PROCEDURAL RULES IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN.

SO WHOMEVER IS THE CHAIR ON THAT DAY WILL HAVE HIS OR HER HANDS FULL. WE APPRECIATE IN ADVANCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU WILL SPEND IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY ON THAT -- I AM ASSUMING IT WILL BE A LONG HEARING AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR VOLUNTEERING AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION AS A NEUTRAL BOARD.

THANK YOU. >>GREG MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

RICHARD? >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONFIDENCE IN FLORIDA MATOVINA AS CHAIR. AND POSTPONE THE CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER.

>>GREG MATOVINA: A MOTION BY RICHARD.

HENRY? >>HENRY GREEN: I WAS GOING TO DO THE SAME. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD PUT A DATE CERTAIN ON IT OR WHEN STAFF WANTS TO BRING IT BACK.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD -- THAT IS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.

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>>GREG MATOVINA: RICHA. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I WOULD MODIFY THAT THAT WE WAIT UNTIL THE UPON DRA PONDRE VIA

[2. NZVAR 2023-06 Shoppes of Tocoi Creek Signage.]

ITEM IS HEARD. >>GREG MATOVINA: A MOTION BY RICHARD. SECOND BY HENRY.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S INVOLVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. MR. TAYLOR AND MR. OR MRS. VARN.

IS THERE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE WITH

REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 2? >>.

>>RANDALL TAYLOR: GOOD AFTERNOON, RANDY TAYLOR, ST.

AUGUSTINE ROAD, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

WE ARE APPLYING FOR A VARIANCE FOR INCREASE OF HEIGHT FOR THE SHOPPES OF TOCOI CREEK. WE HAVE --

>>GREG MATOVINA: SIR, PULL THAT MIC MORE DIRECTLY IN FRONT

OF YOURSELF. >>RANDALL TAYLOR: YES.

THE SIGN THAT WE ARE APPLYING FOR, WE WENT THROUGH THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE FOR APPROVAL AND WENT FOR A 20-FOOT HEIGHT IN CHANGE. AFTER WORKING WITH THEM WE AGREED FOR A 15-FOOT HEIGHT. THE REASON FOR THE HEIGHT INCREASE IS BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER SIGNS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA ARE FOR SINGLE TENANT, YOU GET A TOTAL HEIGHT OF NINE FEET.

THAT IS JUST FOR A SINGLE TENANT SIGN.

THIS WILL BE A MULTITENANT SIGN. A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

AND WILL BE FOR RETAIL AND OFFICE USE.

SO, THEREFORE, WE -- THE WIDTH IS THE SAME.

WIDTH IS WHAT THEY ASKED IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE.

ALL WE DID WAS INCREASE THE HEIGHT.

STAYED CONSISTENT WITH THE STONEWORK, DESIGN AND COLORS OF THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. THEY HAVE APPROVED THIS AS FAR AS EVERYTHING IS IN -- IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS OUT THERE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.

THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT AS CONSISTENT AS THE ONES WE ARE AT THE SIGNING. WE ARE STICKING WITH THE STONE AND THE BURGUNDY AND TYPICAL COLORS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR LIKE THESE. AND EVEN THE TOWER OF THE LIGHTHOUSE TOWER I CALL IT IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING.

SO REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THE INCREASE BASICALLY BECAUSE IT IS

A MULTIRETAIL COMPLEX. >>GREG MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARD.

>>CLERK: ONE SPEAKER CARD. MR. LEBONOWSKI.

>> CHUCK LEBONOWSKI, NO NORTH CAPRARO.

IT IS TRUE THAT THE NUMBER OF SIGNS IN THE AREA ARE VERY TALL.

BUT THE NEW FACILITIES GOING IN ARE NOT.

THIS IS CHASE, WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

THIS IS THE NEW PUBLIX WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AS WELL.

THE OLD FACILITIES THAT WERE BUILT, MIRABEL LA.

SHOOT -- THE MIRABELLA STORE, THE SHOPPING CENTER IS THE LARGEST SIGN. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT AREA. THESE ARE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE AREA THAT REALLY CONCERN ME. WE KEEP INCREASING THE SIZE.

THIS IS A BILLBOARD, BUT STILL, THIS IS IN TOWN ITSELF.

THIS IS ON ROUTE 1. HERE IS WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME RIGHT NOW. HE IS ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF 92.7 SQUARE NIGHT. BUT HE IS PROPOSING A 60.7-SQUARE-FOOT SIGN. NOW WHAT IS HE GOING TO HAVE THERE? 06 SQUARE FEET OR 92 SQUARE FEET. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ONE OR THE OTHER. I THINK HE SHOULD STIPULATE EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING IN THERE AND NOT HAVE IT OPEN-ENDED.

IF OPEN-ENDED 35% DIFFERENCE IF MY MATH IS CORRECT BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT SIGNS. SO, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT TO WHERE IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT IT IN, IT WILL BE STRICTLY

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DON'T ALLOW HIM TO HAVE AN OPEN BOOK.

THANK YOU. >>GREG MATOVINA: WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO OFFER SOME REBU

REBUTTAL? >> I CAN APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN AND I LIKE TO BE CONSISTENT AS WELL.

SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT HE WICKED OUT IS WAY LARGER THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, THE ORIGINAL HEIGHT OF THE SIGN IS NINE FEET.

WE ARE AT 15. SIX FEET TALLER THAN ANY OTHER SIGN OUT THERE. SO I REALLY DON'T SEE THAT IMPEDING ON ANY OF THE SIGNS AROUND IT.

THE OTHER SIGNS ARE MUCH, MUCH LARGER AND THEY ARE MORE -- THEY DON'T HAVE THE STONEWORK TO IT OR DON'T HAVE THE CHARACTER THAT THESE SIGNS ARE, THEY ARE YOUR TYPICAL STRIP MALL SIGN THAT IS STEEL AND METAL. ALSO KELLY HAS --

>>KELLY VARN: I WILL STATE THAT WE AMEND OUR REQUEST.

20 FOOT THAT WAS AT 29.7. WE BROUGHT THIS SIGN DOWN TO 15 FEET, THAT PUT IT BACK AT 60.7. THAT IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

>>GREG MATOVINA: RICHARD? >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: HOW DID YOU DECIDE ON THE HEIGHT OF 15 FEET.

WHAT WENT WITH THAT DECISION? >> I WAS OUT THERE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND LOOKING -- TOOK A TAPE MEASURE FROM THE GROUND UP TO SEE WHAT HAD THE HEIGHT WOULD BE, LOOKING AT BUSHES IN FRONT OF WHERE THE SIGN IS GOING. LOOK BEING AT TRAFFIC ANGLES LOOKING FROM THIS DIRECTION AND THAT DIRECTION.

15 FEET -- A LOT OF THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A 15-TALL SIGN.

A BASE FOUR OR FIVE SEAT TALL TO GET ABOVE THE BUSHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SPACE FOR PRESIDENT PANEL TENANT PANELS. BASICALLY WE WANTED TO GET IT UP HIGH ENOUGH SO THE THINGS ARE NOT OBSTRUCTING THE VISION OF THE SIGN. IT IS PUTTING IT IN THE AIR.

WASN'T THAT HIGH COMPARED TO EVERYTHING AROUND IT.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: SO YOUR SIGN WILL BE 15 FEET IN

ADDITION TO THE FOUR FOOT -- >> NO, TOTAL.

TOTAL 15 FEET FROM THE GRADE TO THAT LITTLE TOWER ON THE LIGHT

HOUSE. >>KELLY VARN: THIS IS ALLOW FOR ENOUGH AREA FOR MULTITENANTS. THE OTHER ONES NINE FEET FOR

SINGLE USE TENANT ONLY. >>RANDALL TAYLOR: YOU GET ONE NAME WITH THE NINE FOOT. WE WANT TO FLESH MULTITENANT WITH 15 FOOT. THE PANELS WON'T BE THAT BIG BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTION WE HAVE ON THE SIZE.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY, THANK YOU.

>>GREG MATOVINA: ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? CAN I ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION, PLEASE SO IF WE MADE A MOTION AND RESTRICTED THE SIGN TO 15 FEET AND 61 SQUARE FEET, THAT

WILL BE ACCEPTABLE? >>KELLY VARN: YES.

>>RANDALL TAYLOR: YES. >>GREG MATOVINA: I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE OF THAT. ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MEAGHAN. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: MOTION TO

[3. MINMOD 2023-05 164 Autumn Bliss Drive. ]

SQUARE FOOT. >>GREG MATOVINA: A MOTION BY MEAGHAN. IS THERE A SECOND.

>>JACK PETER: SECOND BY JA. >>GREG MATOVINA: SECOND BY JACK.

THAT MOTION PASSES 6-0. ITEM NUMBER 3, MR. CARUSO.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS. >>MARK CARUSO: 164 AUTUMN BLISS DRIVE. MY WIFE, SARAH, ALSO 164 AUTUMN BLISS DRIVE. WITH US WITH TROY WITH INNOVATIVE POOLS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST OUR MINOR MODIFICATION OF ZERO-FOOT SETBACK IN LIEU OF THE 20-FOOT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A SWIMMING POOL.

IT HAS BEEN GRANTED APPROVAL FROM THE HOA.

WE HAVE TWO CHILDREN AGES 4 AND 11 WHO LOVE THE WATER.

WE HAVE TO DRAG THEM OUT OF ANY POOL THAT THEY VISIT.

OUR FOUR-YEAR-OLD HAS BEEN IN SWIM LESSONS SINCE 16 MONTHS OLD AND AT THIS POINT SWIMS BETTER THAN YOUR AVERAGE ADULT, AND THAT PROBABLY INCLUDES ME. HAVING A POOL IN OUR BACK YARD WILL BE A GREAT FIT FOR OUR FAMILY DYNAMIC AND AN INVESTMENT

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I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU -- LOOK AT OUR PROJECT AND THEN OUR CURRENT LOT LIMITATIONS. THIS TWO-DIMENSIONAL RENDERING SHOW THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FOOTPRINT ITSELF WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 14 X 5 FEET. THE DOTTED LINE IS THE EXISTING TEN-FOOT SETBACK THAT LEAVES TEN FEET FROM THE REAR OF THE HOUSE TO THAT LINE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A POOL.

BEHIND THE PROPERTY LINE IS A MINIMUM OF 14 FEET OF OPEN SPACE TO THE TOP OF THE BANK FOR THE POND BEHIND OUR PROPERTY.

HERE IS A RENDERING OF WHAT THE PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT IS COMPLETED. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BETTER LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY AND THE IMPACTED AREAS.

THIS IS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.

THE YELL HOE AREA WILL BE THE PROBT AREA IN ITS TOTALITY, FULL PAVERS AND ALL. THE RED DOTTED LINE, AGAIN, IS THE EXISTING TEN-FOOT SETBACK WHICH, AGAIN, LEAVES EIGHT FEET FROM THE END HE OF THE HOUSE TO ACCOMMODATE A POOL.

AGAIN IF YOU LOOK FROM THE BLUE LINE TO THE DOTTED LINE WHERE WE HAVE A FENCE. AND THE TOP OF THE BANK A MINIMUM OF 14 FEET IN THAT AREA. WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A CLOSER LOOK FOR YOU. THE WHY HE WILL LOW FLAGS DENOTE THE CURRENT TEN-FOOT SETBACK WITH THE RED FLAGS BEING THE ZERO FOOT SETBACK OR THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND THIS WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE CLOSER VIEW OF THE AREA FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO IT THE FENCE AND THE TOP OF THE BANK.

AND LASTLY, EXITING OUR REAR PATIO IS A COVERED LANAI THAT OPENS TO A FIRE PIT AREA. THAT AREA WOULD BE REPLACED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY BEHIND US. WE FEEL THAT GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW WHY WE ARE IN THE MOTION TO REQUEST A MINOR MODIFICATION IS RELEVANT. WHEN WE SOUGHT OUT TO BUILD OUR HOME IN LATE 2015, THE ONE CRITERIA WE HAD FOR THE BUILDER THAT THE LOT SELECTED WOULD HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR AT THAT FUTURE POOL. MANY LOTS TO CHOOSING FROM AS PHASE 2 JUST BEGUN. WE WERE TOLD THAT THE LOT WE ENDED UP SELECTING WOULD HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THE POOL AND THE PROPERTY LINE WAS ACTUALLY AT THE TOP OF THE BANK.

ONCE THE LOT ENDED UP BEING STAKED OUT WE WALKED THE LOT AND THE SIGNIFICANCE STANCE OF THE DIFFERENT STAKES.

REAR STAKES. WE WERE TOLD THAT IT REPRESENTED THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION LINE AND AGAIN TOLD THAT OUR PROPERTY LINE WAS AT THE TOP OF THE BANK. EVEN AS THE BUILD CONTINUED, WE NOTED THE SOD WAS TO TOP OF IT THE BANK.

THE SPRINKLER HEADS TO THE TOP OF THE BANK AND GAVE US VISUAL APPEARANCE THAT THE PROPERTY LINE WAS AT THE TOP OF THE BANK.

NOT UNTIL WE ADOPTED OUR FAMILY DOG AND REQUESTED TO INSTALL A FENCE A FEW MONTHS AFTER CLOSING THAT WE LEARNED THAT WHAT WAS REPRESENTED TO US AS BEING THE BUILDING RESTRICTION LINE WAS ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY LINE. AFTER WE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BUILDER AND THE HURRICANE IANOA GRANTED A I APPROVAL TO PLACE THE FENCE AT THE TOP OF THE BANK AND THAT'S WHY THAT FENCE EXISTS AT THAT SPOT TODAY. EVEN DISCUSSIONS AT THE TIME THE BUILDER CONVEYING THE TOP OF THE BANK TO FEW HOMEOWNER WHO DID NOT HAVE THAT AS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE WATER LOTS DO HAVE PROPERTY LINES TO THE TOP OF THE BANK.

WHILE THAT NEVER CAME TO THE PASS, WE MAINTAIN AREA TO THE TOP OF THE BANK AS IF IT IS OURS THE ENTIRE TIME.

THIS IS HOW WE ENDED UP IN THIS POSITION.

HAD WE PROVIDED ACCURATE OR FACTUAL ENVELOPES PRYING TO CLOSING, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.

WE WOULD HAVE CHOSEN A DIFFERENT LOT THAT HAVE SUFFICIENT ROOM FOR A POOL AS MANY LOTS THAT FIT THAT CRITERIA THAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. WE ASK THAT YOU GRANT OUR REQUEST AND NOT CONTRARY TO PUBLIC INTEREST.

NUMEROUS POOLS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED ON THIS POND INCLUDING A FEW ON THE SAME SIDE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE ACTUALLY DOES GO TO THE TOP OF THE BE BANK.

OUR PROJECT FITS THE EXISTING AESTHETICS.

WE SPOKE TO NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES OF OUR HOME AS WELL AS MULTIPLE OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALL VOICE SUPPORT.

BOTH OF OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, HAVE EVEN GONE TO THE EXTENT OF PROVIDING WRITTEN SUPPORT FOR OUR REQUEST WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF PACKETS.

MY UNDERSTANDING AN E-MAIL OF SUPPORT ALSO CAME IN THIS

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FOR OUR PROPERTY LINE TO BE 14 FEET FROM THE TOP OF THE BANK WILL BE EXTRAORDINARY SHALLOW FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THE CODE WILL CAUSE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP ON OUR FAMILY A POOL CANNOT REASONABLY BE CONSTRUCTED IN THE EIGHT FEET CURRENTLY PERMITTED.

GRANTING OUR REQUEST WILL ALLOW FOR 18 FEET OF CONSTRUCTION SPACE WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR A MODEST POOL AND ALLEVIATE ANY SAFETY CONCERN WITH RESPECT TO WIDTH.

THEY BELIEVE THAT OUR REQUEST IS NOT CON TARRY TO THE SPIRIT OF THE CODE, GRANTING USE OF THE SETBACK AREA WILL CURE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP. THE LAND IN QUESTION IS WELL WITHIN THE AREA ALREADY FENCED IN AND IT YOU NOT BORDER ANY NEIGHBOR TO EITHER SIDE, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE REAR SEEING THEY HAVE NO IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS TO THE REAR.

AND, AGAIN, OUR HOA HAS GRANTED ADDITIONAL APPROVAL OF THE PROBABLY. WE WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME TODAY ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, SO THAT IS WHAT WE PREPARED.

WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. >>GREG MATOVINA: RICHARD.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE HOA AT THE END AND I WAS GOING TO VERIFY THAT.

CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, THAT CONDITION UPON US APPROVING IT,

THEIR FINAL APPROVING? >> CORRECT.

APPROVAL TODAY WITH YOU FOLKS AND APPLYING FOR THE PROPER BUILDING PERMITS WHICH WE WILL, OF COURSE, DO.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THANK YOU.

>>GREG MATOVINA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? >>CLERK: WE HAVE ONE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? >> I HAVE A QUESTION -- SORRY, I

-- >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT YOU FILLED OUT A SPEAKER CARD.

>> YES, I DID, IN CASE YOU HAD ANY SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS.

>> OTHER THAN THAT, NO OTHER SPEAKERS.

>>GREG MATOVINA: BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: MOTION TO APPROVE MINOR MODIFICATION,

[4. MAJMOD 2023-09 Katepally Community Commercial PUD.]

REPORT. >>GREG MATOVINA: MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MEAGHAN AND SECOND BY JACK.

ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 6-0. NOW WE ARE MOVING CONTINUE TO MR. WHITEHOUSE. ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE? I SPOKE WITH MR. WHITEHOUSE THIS MORNING. HE CALLED ME EARLIER AND I RETURNED HIS CALL LATE THIS MORNING AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE PROJECT, PARTICULARLY THE ADDITIONAL WETLAND IMPACTS AND THE INTERCONNECT WITH THE ADJACENT FILLING STATION AND GAS STATION, SERVICE STATION, WHATEVER IT IS.

>>GREG MATOVINA: HENRY? >>HENRY GREEN: MR. WHITEHOUSE AND I WERE AT ANOTHER ZONING MEETING AND DISCUSSED THIS

INTERCONNECTIVITY. >>GREG MATOVINA: ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMES WHITE HOUSE OF ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP.

RECOGNIZED IN THE BAR AS AN EXPERT IN CITY, GOVERNMENT LAW.

I'M HERE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE 23023-09 THE KATEPALLY COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PUD. REQUEST TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDED INTERCONNECTIVITY OF COMMUNITY USES THROUGH A MODIFICATION THROUGH THE PUD.

THIS PUD IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR OF OUR COUNTY.

JUST OFF THE MAJOR INTERSECTION AT LONG LEAF PARKWAY, 10 WEST AND COUNTY ROAD 16A IN THE SAME AREA WHERE THE BYWAY IS TO COME THROUGH VERY SHORTLY. YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE WERE HERE, I THINK IT WAS BACK IN THE END OF LAST YEAR THAT THIS PUD WAS APPROVED ON THIS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL NODE.

THIS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SECTION THAT.

>> JUST ADJACENT TO IT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR AT THAT WHILE.

AS I SAID, THIS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WAS APPROVED BY YOU GUYS ARE MAYBE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THE PUD WAS APPROVED BACK IN -- OR RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND THE COMMISSION APPROVED IT BACK IN NOVEMBER. THE ZONING, AS I SAID, NEXT TO US IS PUD. THIS IS THE GRAND CREEK PUD AND HERE ARE THE COMMERCIAL SENSES ON THE MAJOR CORNER OF THE

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WITHIN YOUR PACKET THAT YOU SAW PROPOSED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION. EVERYTHING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS ALREADY APPROVED. AND THIS IS THE BOAT AND RV IN THE BACK. THESE ARE THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. BUILDINGS IN THE FRONT THAT ARE APPROVED. TWO APPROVED ACCESSES APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. AND AS I SAID, THIS IS THE INTERCONNECTIVITY TO THIS SERVICE STATION BEING REQUESTED IN THIS APPLICATION. THIS IS MORE OF A CLOSE-UP OF IT. YOU CAN SEE HERE.

THE REQUIREMENTS THAT COME THROUGH HERE ARE REQUIRED OF PARTS OF THE PROPERTY THAT JUTS IN.

YOU CAN SEE THIS ALLOWS FOR APPROPRIATE INTERCONNECTIVITY PARTICULARLY FOR SAFETY REASONS. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS THE RESERVATION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG 210 THAT WILL BE WHITENED IN THIS AREA. AND -- WIDENED IN THIS AREA AND PRESERVATION OF THE SCENIC EDGE IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.

ALSO ON THE DIAGRAM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THE -- WHERE THE TURN LANES START FOR THE RIGHT-HAND TURN CONTINUE TO LONG LEAF PARKWAY AND BASED ON ENGINEERING AND COUNTY REGULATIONS. AS YOU SAW FROM THE REVIEW THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET, THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION POINTED OUT THE FACT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DEVELOPMENTS AND AS FAR AS THE TRANSPORTATION DEVISE, THEY.ED OUT THE FACT THAT THE NEW DRIVEWAY WILL HELP PRESERVE TO THE CORNER PARCEL OF CONFLICT TO THE EXISTING TRAIL LANE THAT I TALKED ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.

AGAIN WE HAVE ADDRESSED AND MET ALL STAFF COMMENCE.

THE UPDATED PUD CONTINUES TO MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR PLAN. ONE WAIVER THAT NEEDS TO BE REQUESTED TO HAVE THIS THIRD AN SES POINT AS I JUST STATED.

THE STAFF IS COMFORTABLE AND SUPPORTS THIS WAIVER THAT IT WILL BE GOOD FOR STANDARDS AND SAFETY AND SYSTEM TO PROMOTE THAT SAFETY IN THESE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES AS THEY INTERACT. WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND ONE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER THAT SHOWED UP AND WE TALKED OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT WAS GOING ON. HE HAD NO OBJECTIONS .NO RESPONSES TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY NOTICES IN SENT OUT.

BASED ON THE PRESENTED FACTS, THE REQUEST FOR THIS INTERCONNECTIVITY, STAFF SUPPORT FOR THE SAME IN THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL USES SEEM REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>GREG MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT.

ANY AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

I HAVE A COUPLE. >> YES, SIR.

>>GREG MATOVINA: HOW MANY GAS PUMPS -- DO WE KNOW, STAFF, HOW MANY GAS PUMPS GOING IN ON THE CORNER?

>> I CAN RESPOND. THAT PROJECT IS STILL IN REVIEW.

I DON'T THINK -- THAT APPLICANT HAS -- HAD VERBAL DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF. I DON'T KNOW IF CONSTRUCTION PLAN ARE IN REVIEW. THAT IS WHY I DON'T HAVE A DIAGRAM OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING THERE AND AN APPROVED USE BASED ON THE ZONING AND THE LAND USE. TERESA, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON

THAT? >>TERESA BISHOP: I DON'T.

I CAN LOOK IT UP. >>GREG MATOVINA: IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. JAMES, I THINK YOU SAID THAT THE RIGHT-TURN LANE STARTS BEYOND THE THIRD DRIVEWAY THERE AND NO OTHER DRIVEWAYS ALONG 210 INTO THAT GASLIGHT.

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>> YES, SIR. >>GREG MATOVINA: MY QUESTION IS, WHY DO YOU NEED THREE? WHY DON'T YOU ELIMINATE THE WITH UNTO THE LEFT SIDE AND JUST HAVE THE ONE THAT IS CLOSER TO IT THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND YOUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY?

>> YES, LET ME GO BACK TO THIS. THIS -- THERE IS -- THERE IS A MEDIAN OR GOING TO BE A MEDIAN RIGHT HERE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL CONTINUE. BUT THIS WILL BE A RIGHT-IN, RIGHT-OUT. THIS ENTRANE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THIS ALLOWS.

THIS I HAVE A LOWS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES TO GO THIS WAY, BUT ALLOW THE USES TO GO IF IT IS BOAT, RV OR TO USE THESE COMMUNITY USES. THAT ARE PROMOTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH INTERCONNECTIVITY.

THIS ONE HERE IS TO ALLOW THE TRANSPORTATION CYCLE FOR THE BOAT AND RV IN THE BACK. LIKE I SAID, THESE WERE ALREADY APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. THIS ONE ALLOWS THE RIGHT-IN, RIGHT-OUT. YOU CAN'T GO -- YOU CAN'T GO DOWN 10 GOING TO THE LEFT OUT OF HERE.

YOU HAVE TO GO HERE. BECAUSE THIS WILL BE FULL SERVICE INTERCHANGE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>>GREG MATOVINA: I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEED THE THIRD ONE. I WOULD UNDERSTAND MAYBE NEEDING A THIRD WITH UN-- ONE DIDN'T ALLOW A LEFT TURN, BUT I DON'T

UNDERSTAND. >> I THINKING -- THIS ONE HERE IS WHERE THE -- WHERE THE -- WHERE THE BREAK IN THE MEDIAN IS EXAMINE SCHEDULED TO BE. THIS ONE HERE IS NOT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS TO GO LEFT AND RIGHT WHEN YOU ARE COMING OUT OF HERE. THIS ONE HERE ALLOWS THEM TO GO TO THE RIGHT WHICH BREAKS DOWN THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IS GOING INTO THIS SITE, IF THEY WANT TO GO WEST ON 210 OR IF THEY WANT TO GO ON LONG LEAF PARKWAY AT THE LIGHT.

>>GREG MATOVINA: LET ME HEAR FOR YOU,%.

>>TERESA BISHIP: WE DON'T HAVE PLANS IN AND HOW MANY PUMPS.

I CHECKED WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER AND SHE DID INDICATE THEIR ACCESS POINTS MEET THE SPACING AND EVERYTHING.

>>GREG MATOVINA: OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS. >>CLERK: WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD. MR. LABONOWSKI.

>> CHUCK LEBONOSKI. YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT UP THERE. YOU ALREADY HAVE SEEN IT UP THERE. RIGHT NOW IN PLANNING, TWO ACCESS POINTS, RIGHT AND LEFT-HAND TURN.

THAT WILL BE RIGHT TURN ONLY. MY CONCERN IS -- TWO CONCERNS.

HAND THIS IS THE WETLANDS. WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THE WETLANDS TO PUT A THIRD ACCESS POINT IN? NOBODY WILL BE COMING FROM THE GAS STATION TO COME OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN.

DON'T THINK YOU WILL DO IT AS A RIGHT-HAND TURN.

BETTER LEAVING ELEVEN AND RI-- LEFT AND RIGHT TURN AND THIS HERE. THIS IS RIGHT AT THE TURN LANE ACCESS OFF OF 210. I CAN SEE A BIG ISSUE THERE WITH TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED AND ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER. I REG THAT YOU LEAVE IT AT TWO ACCESS POINTS ONLY. THANK YOU.

>>GREG MATOVINA: NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS?

MR. WHITEHOUSE? >> YES, SIR, AS WE WERE IN EVALUATION AS YOU ALL KNOW. WE GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF ROUNDS OF COMMENTS WHEN WE SUBMIT THEM TO STAFF PRIOR TO COME TO YOU.

THIS IS NOT A WILLY-NILLY PLACEMENT OF A ENTRANCE WAY.

THIS IS REALLY -- TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THIS IS REALLY THE ACCESS WAY TO THIS PROPERTY. THEY CAN'T HAVE ONE YOU HEARD FROM STAFF BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY THERE.

IT MEETS THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE CODE.

BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAIVER TO AUTOED A THIRD ONE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WE COULD HAVE TRANSFERRED THIS PROPERTY TO THEM AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A MODIFICATION TO THEIR PUD TO ADD THIS INTO YOUR ACCESS.

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ONE ON TO LONG LEAF PARKWAY AND ONE ON 210.

THAT IS THE REASON FOR THIS AND THE WAIVER TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR BY KATEPALLY. SOLVES A PROBLEM FOR THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. A SAFETY CONCERN. AND LASTLY I WILL ADD THAT THIS INTERSECTION WILL BE ONE OF THE MAJORER.

>> SECTIONS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT OONS AND CLEARING OUT THAT LAND ON THE CHANCE BRIDGE IN ANY CASE.

>>GREG MATOVINA: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEMS LIKE I HAD ONE AND I

FORGOT. >> I HAVE COMMENTS BUT I DON'T

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>GREG MATOVINA: OH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. NICHE SPECIFIC USES PLANNED FOR YOUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY IN THE COMMERCIAL STRIP THERE?

>> I AM NOT SURE. THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ENGINEERING PLANS REVIEWED NOW WITH THE COUNTY FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. I GUESS PART OF THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HELD UP BECAUSE THIS IS IN FOR MAJOR MOD RIGHT NOW.

THE BOAT AND RV WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE BACK AND COMMUNITY USES IN THE FRONT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE RETAIL OR ANY OTHER KIND AT THIS POINT.

>>GREG MATOVINA: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. WE WILL HAVE TIME FOR COMMENT AFTER A MOTION. MEAGHAN.

>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR

MODIFICATION, KATEPALLY. >>GREG MATOVINA: MOTION B BY MEAGHAN. HENRY?

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: SECOND.

>>GREG MATOVINA: SECOND BY HENRY.

DR. HILSENBECK. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY.

THIS IS WHAT I TALKED WITH JAMES ABOUT ON THE TO PHONE THIS MORNING. I HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT HE CLEARED UP FOR ME, BUT MY CONCERNS IS SIMILAR FOR WHAT MR. MATOVINA SAID NECESSITY OF THE THIRD ENTRANCE.

THAT DID BOTHER ME AND I DID NOT ASK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF GAS PUMPS. ASSUME THIS WON'T BE A BUCKEE'S WITH 100 GAS PUMPS WI WILL LABONOWSKI'S COMMENTS, THOSE WERE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE WETLANDS TO HAVE THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY. AND I REALIZE THAT THE COMP PLAN ENCOURAGES THAT. I THINK IT IS A LITTLE BIT OVERDONE IN TERMS OF A REQUIREMENT.

SO I DIDN'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT THIRD TURN LANE AND THE DESTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL WETLANDS ON THAT SITE.

AS MR. WHITEHOUSES EXPLAINED TO ME THIS IS A MAJOR INTERSECTION AND DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THAT GAS STATION ON TO 21 2150.

YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR TWO ENTRANCE AND EXIT ACCESS POINTS INGRESS AND EGRESS APPROVED AND WE CAN'T HAVE ARE YOU DO AWAY WITH THOSE. IMPLORE FAVORABLY INCLINED TO VOTE FOR THIS AFTER TALKING TO MR. WHITEHOUSE AND GETTING THESE THINGS CLEARED UP. AND GIVEN THE FACT THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR INTERSECTION, I -- I DON'T SEE ANY WAY AROUND THIS APPROVAL. SO I INTEND TO VOTE FOR IT.

I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR IT JUST ON -- ON DESTRUCTION OF WETLANDS AND THE INTERCONNECTIVITY, BUT I HAVE BEEN DISSUADED AGAINST

THAT. >>GREG MATOVINA: ANYONE ELSE? I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF COM COMMENTS. FOR WHATEVER REASON THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING THE INTERCONNECTIVITY, THAT IS GREAT. DON'T REALLY.

SEEMS LIKE IT WILL BE BETTER FOR THE APPLICANT TO NOT HAVE A THIRD ONE, BECAUSE THEN ALL THE RIGHT- TRAFFIC AND RIGHT-OUT TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD WILL, DRIVING RIGHT THROUGH THEIR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT.

BUT THAT IS FOR THEM TO DECIDE. THE FACT THAT THIS MEETS CODE, I

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SO THAT IS MY COMMENTS. ANYONE ELSE?

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LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES 6-0. AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON AND I ASSUME WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A -- A COMBINED PRESENTATION ON ITEMS 5, 6, 7 AND 8? ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S START WITH EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION.

RICHARD? >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH JUSTIN DUDLEY THIS MORNING.

HE CALLED ME ON TUESDAY. I RETURNED HIS CALL THIS MORNING. WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION.

I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM.

I SAID I WAS GOING TO SAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR HIS ATTORNEY.

>>GREG MATOVINA: MEAGHAN? OKAY.

I HAD A PHONE CALL AND A TEXT MESSAGE EXCHANGE WITH JUSTIN DUDLEY LAST WEEK OR THE PHONE CALL MIGHT HAVE BEEN THIS WEEK.

MOSTLY JUST CONFIRMING THAT THINGS HAVEN'T CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING.

AND I DID SPEAK WITH ELLEN LAST NIGHT BUT I DON'T THINK WE SPOKE A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THIS MATTER. JACK?

>>JACK PETER: I GOT AT THAT PHONE CALL FROM JUSTIN, BUT THEY

WERE UNABLE TO CONNECT. >>ELVIS PIERRE: I HAD A PHONE

CALL. >>HENRY GREEN: SAME WITH ME, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JUSTIN. ALL THESE APPLICATIONS ARE THE

SAME BUT DIFFERENT. >>GREG MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT, YOU

ALL HAVE THE FLOOR. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, ELLEN AVERY SMITH, ROGERS TOWERS. WITH ME.

>> 1405 ST. AUGUSTINE. >> JUSTIN DUDLEY FROM PULTE HOMES, RYAN CARTER, OF COURSE, FROM CARTER ENVIRONMENTAL IS OUR PROJECT ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT AND RAJASH SHINGLELAR IS OUR PROJECT TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT.

IT IS NOT MOVING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR UNLOCKING IT.

AS MR. MATOVINA CORRECTLY POINTS OUT, YOU MAY HAVE HUGE SENSE OF DEJA VU WHEN YOU HEAR THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE DR.

HILSENBECK, WHEN WE WERE HERE IN APRIL FOR THE TRANSMITTAL FOR THE LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, WE GAVE YOU ALMOST IDENTICAL PRESENTATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU TODAY. THE FIRST APPLICATION WHICH IS -- I AM GOING TO GO OUT OF THE ORDER FROM THE SLIDE.

THE FIRST APPLICATION IS THE LARGE SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE AGE-RESTRICTED PROJECT CALLED THE THE LANDINGS AT ST. JOHNS. THERE WERE NO AGENCY COMMENTS ON THAT APPLICATION. NO, SIR HAS CHANGED OF THAT APPLICATION SINCE LAST TIME WE MET.

YOU WILL RECALL THAT IS THE APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE LARGER PARCEL, THE LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS RURAL SILVICULTURE B WITH A COMPANION TO ALLOW.

THESE ARE XAN I DON'T KNOW PROJECTS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THE LANDERING AT GREENBRIAR WHICH IS NONLAND RESTRICTED AND THIS THAT IS AGE RESTRICTED.

BOTH OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS CONTAIN A TEXT POLICY THAT DOES NOT -- THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT EDGE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES SINCE THEY ARE IN CLOAK Y'ALL TERMS SISTER APPLICATIONS AND WILL BE OWNED AND DEVELOPED BY THE SAME PEOPLE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, AGAIN, THE FOUR APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU, YOU SEE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR ADJACENT TO RIVER TOWN, BAR TRAM PLANTATION AND RANCH. AND SHOPPES OF MILL CREEK FOREST AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF 210 GREENBRIAR AND LONG LEAF PINE PARKWAY. WE ARE TALKING OF A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THIS LITTLE PROPERTY TO GO FROM RURAL SILVICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL B, ALONG WITH THE TEXT POLICY FOR THE LAND HE SHALLS OF GREENBRIAR.

AND FOR THE REZONING FOR THE ENTIRE TRACT AND THE LONG-TERM COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT COMPONENT AND THE PUD FOR THAT. ALL FOUR OF THOSE WILL BE

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AGAIN, HERE IS THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

ABOUT 350 ACRES OF THE PROJECT WILL IS IN RESIDENTIAL B LAND USE AND ADJACENT ALMOST ENTIRELY BY RESIDENTIAL B LAND USE WITH THE MIXED USE DISTRICT ABUTTING RIGHT TO THE EAST.

AND THEN THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, OF COURSE, WILL BE RESIDENTIAL B FOR THE ENTIRETY THAT WILL ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE THAT WILL BE DEVELOPMENTABLE ACRE. SO I WILL LET CASEY TAKE OVER

FROM HERE. >> THANKS, ELLEN, THE EXISTING ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS OPEN RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-2. THE PORTION THAT IS FRONTING GREENBRIAR ROAD IS PROPOSED FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LANDINGS OF GREENBRIAR PLACE.

AND IN THE BACK IS THE LANDINGS AT ST. JOHNS.

THE PROPERTY IS SURROUND BY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING A COUNTY BARK, HILO PARK AND SCHOOL-OWNED PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE LANDINGS OF GREENBRIAR ALONG GREENBRIAR ROAD. YOU ALSO HAVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-2 ZONING TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY.

EXISTING OPEN RURAL AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-2 ZONING BOTH ALLOW FOR SINGLE-FAMILY USES.

THE OPEN RURAL REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF ACRE LOTS.

AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-2 HAVE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR 09-FOOT LOT WIDTH AND 10,000 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS 0.2 ACRES. THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS THE LAND WILLING OF ST. JOHNS PLACE THAT IS TUCKED FURTHER PACK FOR 581 ACRES, 761 ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY DWELLING UNIT. 761 DWELLING UNITS.

PORTION ALONG GREENBRIAR ROAD, THE LANDINGS AT GREENBRIAR ARE 382 ACRE FOR 588 TRADITIONAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND THEY WILL NOT BE ACTIVE ADULT. IN COMBINATION, THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE LOOKED AT AS A COHESIVE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES FOR 49% OF OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION.

OF THAT 302.8 ACRE IS WETLAND. 146 ACRES IS UPLAND AND 26.8 ACRE IS PROVIDED FOR PARKS. AS MENTIONED, THE LANDINGS AT ST. JOHN PLACE IS AN ACTIVE COMMUNITY WITH ITS OWN BENEFITS OF HOUSING THAT ARE THOSE FOR 55 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER AND UNDER THE ABLE OF 19 IS OCCUPYING THOSE HOMES.

SOME OF THE BENEFITS FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE IMPACT ON SCHOOLS BUT CONTINUE TO PAY AD VALOREM REVENUE. AND THE ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITIES HAVE REDUCED ROAD TRIP BY 45% AND FULLY AMENIZED PROGRAM ON-SITE THAT WILL LIMIT THE EFFECTS ON THE EXISTING COMMUNITY SERVICES IN THE AREA SUCH AS YOUR COMMUNITY PARKS.

THE SITE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTHWEST CIRCUITER OVERLAY PLAN ADOPTED IN 2002 BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

THE NORTHWEST SECTOR POLICY -- EXCUSE ME THE NORTHWEST SECTOR PLAN SET FORTH A BUNCH OF POLICIES TO FOCUS GROWTH ON THE COUNTY. SOME OF THESE POLICIES I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN. CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, TRAILS AND BIKEWAYS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDORS, GREENWAY SYSTEMS AND NATURAL CORRIDORS -- THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE GREEN ON THE MAP THERE -- AVOIDING URBAN SPRAWL AND VARIETY OF LOT SIZES. TAKE YOU BACK ON THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY WAS USED AS THE SWITZER LAPPLAND AIR FIELD BY THE NAVY BY THE YEARS 1940 TO 1961.

THIS WAS ALSO USED -- A BOMBING RANGE.

AT THE CENTER OF THE USES WAS ON -- WAS -- EXCUSE ME IN YOU LOOK ON THE 1960 MAP, YOU SEE WHERE THE EPICENTER OF THE ACTIVITY WITH THE BAR TRAM RANCH COMMUNITY IS TODAY.

THE AREA ENCOMPASSED BY THE LANDINGS PIECES AND PROPERTIES, WHERE THE PLANE WOULD FLY OVER BUT NO BOMBING ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN CLEANED OF ALL DEBRIS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF THE AERIAL OF 1960 TO 2016 AND INTO TODAY.

LOOKING AT THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPOSED PAT EVERY OF DEVELOPMENT FITS COHESIVELY INTO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING FOR THE SPINE AND CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT AREA WITHIN THE VARIOUS DEVELOPMENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.

PROVIDED YOU CAN SEE THE DARKER GREEN AREA ON THE MAP IS THE WETLAND PRESERVATION NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE NORTHWEST SECTOR AND IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY.

ADDITION TO THAT, A 75-FOOT REQUIRED SCENIC EDGE ALONG

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75-FOOT BEFORE BETWEEN THE BACKS OF THE LOTS AND BARTRAM RANCH AND THE PROPERTIES. ELLEN MENTIONED A TEXT POLICY TO ELIMINATE THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE BETWEEN THE LANDINGS AT GREENBRIAR AND THE LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS PIECES.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE LOOK AT A COHESIVE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY AND I AM HIGHLIGHTING THE AREA WHERE THE ELIMB GRACING WILL BE.

YOU CAN SEE IN THE PLAN, THAT WE HAVE A VARIETY OF LOT SIZES AND YOU ALSO HAVE RIVER TOWN MAIN STREET THAT WILL COME UP ALONG THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE BOUNDARY AND CONNECT TO GREENBRIAR ROAD. TO BREAK OUT THE TWO SEPARATE PUD, LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS WITH 761 ACTIVE HOMES.

THIS PUD WILL HAVE 52% OF OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVATION.

209 OF WETLAND. 80 OF UPLAND, AND 12 ACRES OF RECREATION AND PARKS. LANDING OF DPREENZ ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN YOUR PUD FRONTING GREENBRIAR ROAD WILL PROVIDE FOR 588 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, TRADITIONAL STYLE.

THEY ARE -- THIS WILL PROVIDE FOR 46% OF OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION ON ITS OWN WHICH WILL INCLUDE 93.5 ACRES OF WETLAND PRESENTATION. 65.9 ACRES OF UPLAND PRESERVATION AND JUST OVER 14 ACRES OF PARKS.

ACT YOU CAN SEE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT THE LANDINGS AT GREENBRIAR PIECE AND ONE COUNTY LARGER PART.

AND TO TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEFINDS COMPATIBILITY AS THE MEANS AND CONDITIONS OF WHICH LAND USES CAN EXIST IN A STABLE FASHION OVER TIME SUCH AS NO USES ON DULY IMPACTED NEGATIVELY OR DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY ANOTHER USE. DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME AS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT COMPATIBILITY IN THE SAME AREAS.

WE LOOK AT WHAT THE IS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTIES.

LANDINGS PROPERTIES ARE SURROUNDED 70% BY THE EXISTING RIVER TOWN DRI AND OTHER IN THE AREA AND THE COMMUNITY PARK AND OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

THOSE EXISTING COMMUNITIES VOWING THE PROPERTY PROVIDE FOR MINIMUM LOT WIDTHS BETWEEN 32 TO 90 FEET IN WIDTH.

PROPOSED LANDING AT ST. JOHNS PEACE.

AND LANDS AT GREENBRIAR WILL RANGE FROM 50 TO 70 FEET WITH A SMALL PORTION THAT WILL BE ALLEY-LOADED AND THOSE WILL BE 35-FOOT LOT MINIMUMS. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION HERE THE ALLEY-LOADED LOTS WILL NOTERS SEED 5% OF THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY. GOING BACK TO THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE THAT IS IN THE LANDINGS OF GREENBRIAR.

THAT IS IN THE AREA WHERE DEVELOP COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES TOGETHER, WALKING TO EXPERIENCE OPEN AIR MARKETS, PICK-UP SOCCER GAMES AND OTHER EVENTS THAT MAY TAKE PLACE ON THE EVENT LAWN. WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK

OVER TO ELLEN. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: ALL RIGHT, JUST FOR -- GOING INTO TRANSPORTATION AND SCHOOLS.

WHICH WILL DOVETAIL INTO PUBLIC BENEFITS FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION OF INTERCONNECTIVITY. YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAN THE GREENBRIAR ROAD ACCESS THROUGHOUT PROPERTY, AROUND THE PARK THAT CASEY JUST SPOKE ABOUT AND INTO THE ACTIVE ADULT, THE LOOP ROAD SYSTEM IN THE ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY THAT LOOPS BACK AROUND AND YOU SEE THE INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH BARTRAM RANCH THAT IS WRITTEN INTO THEIR COMMUNITY PLAN ORDINANCE.

YOU SEE RIVERTOWN THAT WRAPS UP. RIVER TOWN EXTENDS THIS AREA FROM GREENBRIAR ROAD. AS PART OF RIVER TOWN'S DR TOISHGZ BUILD RIVER TOWN MAIN STREET TO COLLECT TO GREENBRIAR ROAD AS ANOTHER COLLECTOR ROAD SYSTEM AND THAT WILL HIP WITH TRANSPORTATION ACCESS THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE SECTOR WHICH IS WHY RIVER TOWN MAIN STREET WAS REQUIRED TO GO BACK TO GREENBRIAR ROAD 20 YEARS AGO WHEN THE DRI WAS APPROVED.

THE ROADWAY NETWORK ON THE COLLECTOR WHICH IS THE LIME GREEN WILL BE BUILT TO COUNTY'S COLLECTOR ROAD STANDARDS.

WITH RESPECT TO ROAD SEGMENT CAPACITY, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU HAVE THE SAME EFFECTED OR IMPACTED ROADS THAT WERE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FROM APRIL. SO WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH

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YOU KNOW THAT ST. JOHNS HILO PAID TO ST. JOHNS TO WIDEN LONG LEAF PARKWAY FROM ROBERTS ROAD TO VETERANS PARKWAY FROM TWO TO FOUR LANES. THAT IS UNDER WAY.

THAT IS WHY IT SAYS "ACTIVE" BECAUSE THAT IS UNDER WAY.

210 FROM CIMARRON TO GREENBRIER MOSTLY FUNDED BY THE SHEAR WATER COMMUNITY WITH ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

PROBABLY NOT TAX DOLLARS, BUT TRANSPORTATION PROPORTIONATE SHARE DOLLARS -- LET ME -- FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

IN SEGMENT FROM GREENBRIAR ROAD SHOULD BE APPROVED NOT ONLY BY ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL -- RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OF GREENBRIAR HILO FOR 7/10 OF A MILE AND THE COMMERCIAL PART OF THE HILO PROJECT BUILT OUT, THEY WILL HAVE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH THEIR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS SEGMENT -- AND WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL AS WE GO FORWARD, THIS INTERSECTION AT LONG LEAF PINE PARKWAY, 210 AND LONG LEAF PARKWAY SOUTH WILL BE APPROVED TO FOUR LANES WITH THIS PROJECT THAT INCLUDES THIS LITTLE SEGMENT THAT IS SHOWN IN BRIGHTER YELLOW, AS WELL THE GREEN ARE, THE PURPLE THAT STARTS JUST EAST OF LONG LEAF PINE PARKWAY AND TRAVELS WEST AND A HALF.

THAT WILL BE APPROVED -- AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE MITIGATION FOR THE PROBABLY AND THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY ACROSS THE NEW SHANDS BRIDGE, CONNECT THROUGH ST. JOHNS COUNTY WITH INTERCHANGES TO LONG LEAF MEAN. AND TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION.

LONG LEAF PINE WILL BECOME A MAJOR COLLECTOR, ESSENTIAL FOR THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY TO EXIT INTO THIS AREA AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER EXIT OFF OF THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY OF 2209.

WHEN THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY OPENSES IN 2023, IT WILL TAKE 50% MICROSOFT TRAFFIC TRIPS OFF THIS ROADWAY NETWORK.

ADDITIONAL ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW FOR RIVER TOWN. THEY HAVE -- CONSTRUCTED A PORTION OF VETERANS PARKWAY FROM LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY SOUTH TO THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE OF STILLWATER AND CONTINUE TO CON FRUKT TO SOUTH TO CONNECT WITH GREENBRIAR, 2010 AND 210 WEST AND THE HILO AIM IMPROVEMENT. HERE IS WATER IS BRINGING HERE IS WATER PARKWAY CONNECTS 16-A NEAR THE EXPRESSWAY.

RIVER TOWN IS CONTINUING RIVER TOWN MAIN STREET A CONNECTION TO STATE ROAD 13. AND YOU WILL SEE THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY THERE. AS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT WILL GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION WITH THESE FOUR APPLICATIONS ON SEPTEMBER 5 IS -- ARE TWO AGREEMENTS.

ONE DEALS WITH ROADS. ONE DEALS WITH SCHOOLS FOR THE NONACTIVE ADULT COMPONENT. THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION AGREEMENT REFERENCED -- WILL CROSS REFERENCE BOTH PROJECTS WHICH WILL PROVIDE -- I AM TALKING OF BOTH PULTE PROJECTS.

THE LANDINGS AT GREENBRIAR AND THE LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS.

COMBINE THOSE PROJECTS IN WRITING AND AGREEMENTS WILL PROVIDE FOR $11.5 MILLION IN PROPORTIONATE SHARE MITIGATION.

FROM FOR THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE MITIGATION IS RIGHT-OF-WAY, STORMWATER PONDS AND IF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT FROM GREEN PRIOR LEAST OF LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY. THAT PAST THE SHOPS AT MILL CREEK, AND THE PROJECT ENTRANCE HERE.

THAT, AGAIN, IS BEING DONE AT THE DEVELOPER'S RISK.

THE TIMING OF THAT THAT IS IN THE AGREEMENT OF THE PUBLIC RECORD THEIR 911PULTE HAS TO START CONSTRUCTION OF THAT ROAD BEFORE THE COUNTY'S APPROVAL OF A PLAT AND HAS TO FINISH THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD ON THE EARLIER OF TWO YEARS AFTER COMMENCEMENT OR PRIOR TO A PLAT OF THE 3256 UNIT.

YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPER BEARING THE COST RISK OF CONSTRUCTION AND AGREEING TO THE TIMING OF THE ROAD BEING BUILT UP FRONT.

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SORRY, I SKIPPED ONE. YOU WILL RECALL HEARING LAST TIME -- AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN A KUDOS FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD. PULTE CAME UP WITH A GREAT IDEA WITH THE HAD ESPECIALLY OF MR. SHINGLELAR AND HIS TEAM PROVIDING ACCESS INTO SWITZERLAND POINT MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THOSE HO HAVE DRIVEN BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL, PARENTS STACK UP TO DROP KIDS OFF OR PICK THEM UP FROM SCHOOL.

I WILL CALL THEM SLICK LANES TO GET CALLS OFF OF THE MAIN LINE OF THE ROAD SDOCH TRAFFIC. $506.

MILLION. PUBLIC IS GIVING THAT AS A GIFT.

NO TRANSPORTATION CREDIT, SCHOOL MITIGATION CREDITS FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS. PUBLIC DOLLARS.

SIMILARLY INTO LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY.

ONCE THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY OPENS, LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY WILL BE A KEY ROAD. TO GET HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC GOING INTO BARTRAM TRAIL HIGH SCHOOL OF LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY, PULTE HAS PROPOSED TO EXTEND THE LEFT-TURN LANE INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL SITES TO GET KIDS OUT OF THE LANES $282,000 WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS, AGAIN, A PUBLIC BENEFIT.

NO TRANSPORTATION OR SCHOOL IMPACT FEE CREDITS AT ALL.

THEN TALKING OF TIMELINES. SO YOU SEE UP HERE ON THE TIMELINES -- I AM NOT GOING TO READ THEM ALL TO YOU, BUT THE IMPORTANT PART IS, THE FIRST HOME WILL NOT CLOSE UNTIL 2026 SO THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE 210 WIDENING THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND THE LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY WIDENS THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THROUGH ST. JOHNS COUNTY WILL BE COMPLETED.

PULTE WILL HAVE TO FINISH ITS CONSTRUCTION OF THE GREENBRIAR ROAD WIDENING WITHIN ITS FIRST TWO YEARS, AGAIN, STARTING BEFORE THE COUNTY'S APPROVAL OF THE FIRST PLAT, THE FIRST PLATTED LOT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, THE SCHOOL ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE DONE EITHER IN SUMMER 2024 OR SUMMER 2025.

AND THE TRANSPORTATION SHARE PAYMENTS ISN'T THAT RIGHT 2024.

SO YOU SEE THAT TIMELINE. THAT IS GOING TO DOVETAIL INTO -- AND AGAIN KEEP 2026 IN YOUR MIND.

BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD RIGHT NOW. THOSE TWO NEW HIGH SCHOOLS WERE OPEN FOR BEACH WALK-UP -- BEACH HIGH SCHOOL AND TOCOI CREEK.

TWO K-8 SCHOOLS AT SHEAR WATER AND OVER AT BEACON LAKE.

RIVER TOWN K-8 THROUGH 2025-'26. HOUSE ANOTHER 4100 SCHOOL STATIONS. THEN YOU SEE THE TWO NEW -- TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITES IN RAIFERTOWN.

ONE FUTURE K-8. A PROJECT IN A MINUTE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE RIGHT THERE AND YOU SEE THE SCHOOLS IN SILVERLEAF. THIS DATA FROM THE ST. JOHNS SCHOOL WORK PLAN. AND THE OPENED STUDENT DISTRICT OR SCHOOL DISTRICTING FOR THIS PROBABLY.

AND, AGAIN, ONLY FOR THE NONAGE RESTRICTED BECAUSE THE AGE-RESTRICTED UNITS WILL NOT HAVE SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN.

STUDENT GENERATION RATES AS I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO.

K-8 STUDENT STATIONS COME AGO ON ONLINELINE TWOURS TWOUR BETWEEN 2024 AND 25.

AND THE PROJECT OF FIRST STUDENT IN 2026.

YOU SEE BY 2024-'25, STUDENT GENERATION.

YELLOW IS BARTRAM TRAIL HIGH SCHOOL.

WITH THE OPENING OF IN YOU TWO HIGH SCHOOLS, BARTRAM TRAIL'S ATTENDANCE HAS GONE DOWN TREMENDOUSLY AND SAME FOR SWITZERLAND POINT AS THE THREE NEW K 8 SCHOOLS COME ON LINE AND K-8. WITH RESPECT TO SCHOOL BENEFITS, PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGAIN FOR THE NONAGE RESTRICTED IS $9.5 MILLION. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION OF SITE ACCESS TO SCHOOLS IN ITS VICINITY. ALSO THIS THE ADJACENT SCHOOL SITE ALREADY OWNED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.

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MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY IN VORMZ AD VALOREM, CIVIC SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC USE SIMILAR TO WHAT CASEY TALKED ABOUT WITH THE PARK. SENIOR HOUSING OPTIONS.

AGAIN RESIDENTIAL B LOUIS FOR COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTHWEST SECTOR OF THE OVERLAY IN THE COMP PLAN.

WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE APPLICATIONS WHICH ARE FOUR. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE LARGE-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT INCLUDES THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS HERE. ALSO A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE LANDINGS OF GREEN PRIOR FOR THIS PROPERTY HERE WITH A COMPANION TEXT POLICY RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT EDGES.

AND THEN PUD REZONING AGAIN GOING FROM -- SORRY, I AM NOT CLICKING. GOING FROM PUD FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT AND THEN ALSO PUD FOR THE NONAGE-RESTRICTED PORTION.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION. AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>>GREG MATOVINA: RICHARD. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS HAND THIS WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND CERTAINLY MIRRORED THE LONG ITEMS WE HAD. WE ONLY HAD 946 PAGES OF MATERIAL TO GO THROUGH. IN THESE FOUR.

SO THAT WAS PRETTY TOUGH. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: THANK YOU MR. SHINGLELAR FOR THAT. I PRINTED THAT ALL OUT AND I REALIZED THAT MOST OF IT IS TRAFFIC STUDY.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: A LOT OF IT IS REDUNDANT.

THERE IS REDUNDANCY BUT A LOT OF MATERIAL TO WORKADE THROUGH.

TALK ABOUT ACCESS. WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION -- THAT IS THE WAY YOU PHRASED IT, OF INTERCONNECTIVITY.

I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE ROAD THAT WENT THROUGH BARTRAM RANCH.

IT WAS DISCUSSED BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT, THE ACTUAL ROAD COMING ON WEST SIDE OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK IT IS COMING OUT OF THE LANDINGS COMING FROM THE LANDINGS OF GREENBRIAR, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A SINGLE INGRESS, EGRESS POINT UP ALONG GREENBRIAR NORTH. DID YOU MAP THAT IN?

>> THE MAP ON THE SCREEN. WE PROVIDED A LITTLE MORE COLOR.

SO YOU SEE ON THE MAP, THIS WAS -- THIS WAS THE ACCESS ROAD FOR THIS PROJECT IN FROM GREENBRIAR ROAD AND GOES AROUND THE PARK AND GOES INTO THE ACTIVE ADULT. SO THIS ACCESS THROUGH -- AND BARTRAM RANCH IS APPROVED BECAUSE IT IS IN THEIR PUD.

IF YOU WANT TO EXPOUND, BECAUSE YOU ARE AN EXPERT ON BARTRAM RANCH. BECAUSE INTERCONNECT WITH THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST. YOU CAN SEE THAT INTERCONNECTION UP TO GREENBRIAR ROAD PROVIDES A SECOND ACCESS.

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>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: AN ACCESS POINT TO GO.

>> YES UNLESS THE COMMISSION SAYS OTHER 1378D WISE.

THATS THAT BEEN ADOPTED AND CONSTRUCTION PLAN THAT SHOW THAT AS A PHASE FIVE THAT ARE APP APPROVED AND WORKING FOR A PLAT THAT WILL SHOW THAT CONNECTION

AS A PHASE 5. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: PAGE 10, INTERCONNECTIVITY AND ACCESSES TO THIS ADJOINING AGE-RESTRICTED COMMUNITY, THE LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS.

UNPLATTED POINT OF POTENTIAL INTERCONNECTIVITY ON BARTRAM

RANCH. >> CURRENTLY UNPLATTED BUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HAVE THAT PLATTED.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THEY ARE?

>> YES. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OBJECTION FROM NEIGHBORS IN BARTRAM RANCH.

>> WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND THE BAR TRAMRANCH COMMUNITY CAME OUT AND THEY DON'T LIKE THE INTERCONNECT.

AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THEIR PUD AND THEY NEED TO TAKE THAT UP WITH THEIR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I DO NOT RECALL SEEING THAT ACCESS INGRESS, EGRESS POINT ADDITIONAL ONE TO THE WEST AND NORTHWEST.

I AM GLAD YOU HAVE IT UP THERE. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: SOMETIMES WE ACTUALLY MAKE CHANGES BASED ON WHAT HAD THE BOARD SAYS?

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: REALLY? [LAUGHTER] OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY FANTASTIC DEVELOPMENT.

MY WIFE AND I MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE OUT THERE.

BUT REALLY GREAT. ANY WORKFORCE HOUSING ASPECTS TO

THIS AT ALL? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I BELIEVE BE THIS IS MARKET RATE HOUSING.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: MUST BE JUSTIN.

>> YOU GUESSED CORRECTLY. >> JUSTIN DUDLEY, DEL WEB PARKWAY. WE DID NOT PLAN THE WORK FORCE HOUSING WHEN WE PLANNED IT TWO YEARS AGO AND WORKING WITH STAFF AND THE COUNTY OF UP-FRONT COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTIONS.

WE FOCUSED ON MARKET RATE TO PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS. BUT WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE CHANGES RELATED TO WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING SOME PRODUCTS TO MARKET ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTY.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> I AM REALLY CONCERNED OF THE TRAFFIC AND I KNOW HEADWAY MADE ON ROAD OVERCROWDING OUT THERE. AND YOU HAD NICE MAPS SHOWING SOME OF THAT. THE GREENBRIAR HILO COMMITMENT OF 19-PLUS MILLION OUT -- ON THESE SIX -- WHAT ARE SIX ADVERSELY IMPACTED ROAD SEGMENTS.

SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DO IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT DON'T COUNT FOR CREDIT, DOWEL A MILE AND A HALF A MILE OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, CORRECT, FOR -- TOTAL OF ABOUT $11 MILLION.

LET'S SEE, I GOT IT ON HERE, $11 MILLION, $493,483 FOR BOTH PROJECTS. HAND THIS IS OUT OF A TOTAL ON THE SIX ADVERSELY IMPACTED SEGMENTS WITHIN THE FOUR-MILE RADIUS OUT OF A NEED OF 115 MILLION SO THAT -- THAT WOULD INCLUDE THAT 19 PLUS MILLION FROM GREENBRIAR HIILO.

GLAD THAT IS IN THERE. THAT IS UNDER WAY.

YOU ARE SHOWING THAT IN YELLOW RIGHT THERE.

IS THAT GOING TO COVER THE COMPLETE COST? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE COMPLETE COST OF THAT SEGMENT WAS 36-PLUS

MILLION JUST FOR THAT? >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FOUR LANING OF LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY HERE?

>> YES, I AM. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: MY UNDERSTANDING AND I AM NOT THE EXPERT, BUT RAJAH YOU WANT TO COME UP. PROVIDED ENOUGH CARVE TO PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT ENTIRE FOUR LANING FROM ROBERTS ROAD TO

VETERANS PARKWAY. >> ON THIS TABLE I HAVE RIGHT HERE THE APPLICATION PAGE 7, COST IS 36 THUNDERSHOWER 218, 586. AND GLEENZ HILO OF $19.2.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A SHORTFALL THERE OF ABOUT $18.

I JUST WONDER, IF YOU KEEP IT BRIEF IN YOUR ANSWERS.

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>> THAT SECTION OF THE ROADWAY CURRENTLY HAVE TWO LANES ON IT.

THE WIDE ING IS HAPPENING ON ONE SIDE COUNTY ROADWAY.

MY UNDERSTANDING THAT $18 MR. OR $19 MILLION COVERS THE COST OF THAT ROAD AND THESE MODELS THAT WE USE ARE PACED ON A LANE PER MODEL. AND SOME OF THE COSTS ARE EITHER DEFLATED SO WE HAVE TO USE THE D.O.T. FOR COMING UP WITH

THE CALCULATIONS. >> SO THE 36 MILLION PLUS FOR

THIS IS INCORRECT? >> THAT COULD BE A DISCREPANCY.

>> EXCUSE ME? >> THE DISCREPANCY TO USE THE D.O.T. MODELS AND THAT IS THE REASON.

>> OKAY. WELL, WHAT I SEE HERE ON THIS CHART PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY IS THERE IS 115 MILLION PLUS IN NEED. AND Y'ALL ARE PUTTING 11,493,000. WHICH IS A LOT 37 AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I AM SURE THE COUNTY COMMISSION WILL AND THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES THAT.

THAT IS WELL AS WELL AS TWO OTHER ASPECTS THAT YOU

MENTIONED. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: JUST GOING TO THAT POINT. $11.5 MILLION IS THE PROPORTION THAT THE SHARE OBLIGATION OF THIS PROJECT.

AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY STAFF TO SAY, WHERE DO WE WANT YOU TO APPLY THESE MONEY. AND PULTE HAS GONE ONE STEP FA THOR AND SAID, HEY, WE WILL BEAR THE FINANCIAL RISK OF HAVING TO ACQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND STORMWATER PONDS AND DEFENSE SIGN, PERMIT AND CONSTRUCT THE ROAD UP FRONT IN THE PROJECT.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS BOARD AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION SEE THAT AS A VERY GOOD PUBLIC BENEFIT CONCERNING THAT LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY IN ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS -- OR SIX AND A HALF YEARS OR SO WILL BE A MAJOR THOROUGH FARE FROM THE FIRST

COAST EXPRESSWAY. >> NO DOUBT.

>>GREG MATOVINA: BUT YOU GO ON, RICHARD, JAN MAY HAVE WANTED TO SPEAK. GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERS, JAN WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY WIDE ING IS FUNDED. FULLY FUNDED AND THE BIDS CAME

IN LOWER THAN EXPECTED. >>GREG MATOVINA: WOW.

THAT IS GREAT NEWS. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU WILL UP DATE THAT BEFORE YOU GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON THE FIFTH OF SEPTEMBER. OKAY.

THAT IS EXCELLENT. I DO APPRECIATE THE SCHOOL TURN LANES AND ALL THIS THAT PULTE IS FUNDING.

THAT IS REALLY GOOD. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: BECAUSE WE ALSO LISTEN TO YOU OF PUBLIC BENEFIT REQUIRED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR LAND USE CHANGES FROM RURAL-SILVICULTURE

TO RESIDENTIAL B. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THANK YOU. SO WITH THESE 1349 HOMES BOTH IN THE LANDINGS OF GREENBRIAR AND LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS.

THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

AND YOU FEEL THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU ARE MAKING ARE I KNOW YOU ASSERT IN THE APPLICATION. IT SAYS THE APPLICANT ASSERTS THIS IS GOING TO HANDLE ALL THIS.

THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE ADEQUATE TO HANDLE AN ADDITIONAL FROM BOTH OF THESE 8475 ADDITIONAL DAILY TOTAL TRIPS.

THAT IS A LOT OF TRIPS OUT THERE.

BUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU ARE MAKING ARE GOING TO DO THAT.

>> WELL, AGAIN, LET RAJ SPEAK FOR HIMSELF AND I SPEAK LAW.

AND THAT IS PROPORTIONATE SHARE. AND ALL THE EXPERTS IN TRANSPORTATION TELL US THIS IS THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE FOR THE PROJECT AND, AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING NOT TO PAY AND GO LIKE SOME PEOPLE DO AND THE LAW ALLOWS.

THERE ARE TAKING THE RISK LIKE I SAID NUMBER OF TIMES AND I WON'T SAY IT AGAIN OF CONSTRUCTING THIS ROAD.

I WILL LET RAJ TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

>> SURE, 87475 IS TRIPS COMING IN THE EVENING COMBINED.

IN THE PEAK HOURS. A.M., 555 TRIPS WHICH INCLUDE 157 COMING IN AND 398 LEAVING. AFTERNOON, 741 TRIPS, WHICH INCLUDES 463 COMING IN AND 278 EXITING.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THOSE TOTALS ASIGHTED OF 875.

>> 24-HOUR PERIOD. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: TELL ME OUT OF THOSE SIX ADVERSELY IMPACTED ROAD SEGMENTS WITHIN THE RADIUS, HOW MANY MILES DID THOSE SIX SEGMENTS COMPRISE?

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>> HOW MANY MILES? >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: HOW MANY MILES LONG ARE THOSE SIX SEGMENTS? I ESTIMATED IT JUST MEASURING IT OUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ACCURATE. I AM JUST CURIOUS.

I HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE. I WONDER IF YOU KNEW.

>> I DO NOT. >> WHEN RAJ CONDUCTS HIS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WE LOOKS AT ROADS WITHIN A FOUR-MILE RADIUS OF THE

PROJECT. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: ON THE MAP. I AM ASKING OF THOSE ADVERSELY IMPACTED SEGMENTS, SIX OF THEM WITHIN THAT FOUR-MILE RADIUS, HOW MANY MILES OF ROAD IS THAT? A FAIRLY --

>> JUST THOSE SIX SEGMENTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: CORRECT, SIX SEGMENTS ADVERSELY

IMPACTED OVER 100% CAPACITY. >> GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: WHILE HE IS ADDING, I WILL NOTE THAT TWO OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

I DON'T KNOW THE LENGTH OF THOSE.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: SOME INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THEN THE --

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY, THIS SEGMENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THIS SEGMENT UNDER COUNTY ROAD 210 UNDER CONSTRUCTION. GREENBRIAR HILO RESIDENTIAL IS IN DESIGN. AND THE REST OF THIS SEGMENT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED BY THE HILO COMMERCIAL FOR SIDE ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS ARE NEEDED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

>> JUSTIN DUDLEY DID MENTION THAT TO ME WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM ON THE PHONE. ROAD IMPROVEMENTS UNDER WAY THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THAT TABLE.

SO THAT IS GOOD TO KNOW. CHANGE THE QUESTION AFTER THE TOTAL MILES. HOW MANY MILES WILL BE LEFT THAT ARE NOT BEING IMPROVED. CAN YOU COME UP WITH THAT.

>>THE IMPROVED SECTIONS BASICALLY -- THE TOTAL LENGTH IS 12 MILES OF THAT FIVE OR SIX SEGMENTS.

OF THAT, IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE FOR -- LET'S SEE.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I HAD THE WRONG SPREADSHEET.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: RIVERTOWN MAIN STREET AND ABUTS THE DEVELOPMENT, THE LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS.

ANY INGRESS-EGRESS THERE ON THAT SOUTHWESTERN PORTION.

THERE WILL BE A FENCE, I ASSUME. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: RIGHT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP AND YOU SEE RIVERTOWN MAIN STREET.

A LOT OF WETLANDS. THIS IS AN PROXIMATE MAP.

IT HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED. >> THEY HAVE TO DO IT PRESIDENT RIVERTOWN DRI REQUIRES CONNECTED TO GREENBRIAR UP IN THIS AREA.

THIS ALIGNMENT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ACCURATE, BUT YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR AGAIN THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF WETLANDS.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: A LOT O MITIGATION THAT YOU ARE NOT

RESPONSIBLE FOR. >> CORRECT.

WE ARE NOT PROPOSING INTERCONNECTION TO RIVERTOWN AND RIVERTOWN IS NOT PROPOSED INTERSECTION TO THIS PROJECT.

>> THE TOTAL SEGMENT LENGTH 11.48 MILES TOTAL.

>> I CAME UP WITH 12. >> AND OF THAT, 11.48 MILES, YOU ARE LOOKING AT 6.7 MILES THAT ARE BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, 6.7, PULTE WILL ADD IN APPROXIMATELY 1.2 MILES AND 1.5 MILES ON TOP OF THAT FOR THE WIDENING.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: WHAT YOU JUST SAID ADDED GREATER THAN

12? >> NO, OF THAT -- YEAH, 11478 IS APPROXIMATELY ALL THE LANES THAT ARE IMPACTED.

RIGHT, OF THAT 11.48, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROADS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, 6.7 MILES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

AND PULTE WILL ADD 1.2 MILES OF ROADWAY ON TOP OF THAT AS THE

MITIGATION. >> LEAVES MAYBE FOUR THAT ARE

UNACCOUNTED FOR. >> OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE. OKAY.

>>GREG MATOVINA: DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?

>> NO. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: SO MUCH MATERIAL IN THAT 946 PAGES THAT IT IS CRYING OUT FOR QUESTIONS AND CLARIFICATION. AND BIT DIFFUSED AND LET ME FIND

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I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. BUT JUSTIN DUDLEY ASSURED ME OF SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, BUT IT STILL LOOKS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST WITH BARTRAM HIGH.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CAPACITY, NONE.

AND THEN ANY ADJACENT CONCURRENCY OR IF THAT INCLUDES TOCOI OR BEACHSIDE OR NOT IF THEY ARE CONSIDERED CONCURRENT SERVICE AREAS. ANYWAY, IN THOSE AREAS, THERE IS NO CAPACITY LEFT AT ALL. ZERO.

SO YOU STATED THAT IT IS IN THE APPLICATION.

Y'ALL EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL CAPACITY IS THERE, OR YOU ARE GOING TO START THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE MITIGATION PROCESS AND YOU HAD A SLIDE UP THERE THAT SAID -- IT WAS A TIMELINE SLIDE THAT SAID IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO START THE -- START THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE MITIGATION PROCESS. WHICH WAS IT.

ARE YOU GOING TO WAIT OR START THAT PROCESS?

>> WE ACTUALLY GOT THE LETTER OF NO CAPACITY FROM IF THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT YOU ARE NOTING. THAT WAS MONTHS AGO.

WE SPENT THE LAST FEW MONTHS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ITS STAFF ABOUT THE EXISTING SCHOOL ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS.

AND ALSO, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS TO MAKE THE EXISTING VACANT SCHOOL SITE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY COMPLETELY DEVELOPABLE.

AND SO WE HAVE -- THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS APPROVED A SCHOOL PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT FOR THE NONAGE-RESTRICTED COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT. THAT AGREEMENT IS IN FINAL FORM.

IT ALREADY HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WILL GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 5 AND HOPEFULLY BE APPROVED WITH ALL FOUR OF THESE ACTIONS, THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION AND THE SCHOOL MITIGATION AGREEMENTS FOR THE PLANNINGS AT GREENBRIAR WHICH IS THE NONRESTRICTIVE.

>> THE 588 HOMES. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: CORRECT.

THAT IS WHERE THE INFORMATION LIES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE, MR. DUDLEY DID HIS HOMEWORK AND WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD'S RECORDS, BY THE TIME IN THE NEW K-8 IN 2024 AND '25, CAPACITY BARTRAM TRAIL IN THE YELLOW, AND SWITZERLAND POINT IN THE BLUE AND GREEN.

AND MORE CAPACITIES TO TAKE KIDS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I HOPE THOSE AREN'T GRAPH OF THE STOCK MARKET. [LAUGHTER] I HAVEN'T CHECKED TODAY WHAT WAS GOING ON AFTER THE DOWNGRADE YESTERDAY. LET'S SEE IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT. I AM REALLY CONCERNED OF THAT SCHOOL CAPACITY FOR HIGH SCHOOL. SO THERE IS GOING TO BE THAT -- A NEW HIGH SCHOOL BUILT UNDOUBTEDLY, RIGHT THAT THEY ARE

TALKING ABOUT? >> ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL SITE THAT

IS AVAILABLE IN SILVER LEAF. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: SILVERLEAF HIGH, CORRECT. THAT WILL BE WHAT SERVICES THIS

AREA? >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: RIGHT NOW

IT IS BARTRAM TRAIL. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: DOESN'T ANY CAPACITY ANY FURTHER.

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: AGAIN THIS GRAPH THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN SHOW YOU THAT BARTRAM TRAIL PEAKED IN STUDENT CAPACITY AND ENROLLMENT IN 2022. AND STARTING TO DECLINE NOW BECAUSE THE TWO NEW HIGH SCHOOLS ARE OPEN AND THIS AGAIN NOTE THAT IT IS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S WORK PLAN.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY. GOOD.

THAT IS INSTRUCTIVE. VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. I MAY THINK OF SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HERE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS, I MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS IF NOBODY ELSE DOES IN A LITTLE BIT.

LET ME LOOK THROUGH THIS. ONE SECOND, SORRY.

TRYING TO BE QUICK I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY IT.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEY.

UNDER COMP PLAN POLICY 8.1.2.5-C WHICH STATES -- AND I HAVE CITED

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INCLUDE THINGS LIKE SCHOOLS? >> MY RECOLLECTION THAT ALSO

INCLUDES SCHOOLS. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THAT

IS THE WAY I WOULD READ IT. >> YEAH.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. GOOD ANSWERS.

THANK YOU. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >>GREG MATOVINA: ANYBODY ELSE

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>HENRY GREEN: I HAVE A QUICK

ONE. >>GREG MATOVINA: GO AHEAD,

HENRY. >>HENRY GREEN: WE TAKE ABOUT ROADS AND ALL THAT. MY CURIOSITY IS WATER SUPPLY, UTILITIES. WHERE WAS IT COMING FROM AND I ASSUME LOOKING THROUGH IT, COUNTY HAS CAPACITY.

>> THE UTILITY PROVIDER IS JEA. AND WE HAVE A UTILITY AVAILABILITY LETTER WHICH SHOULD BE PART OF YOUR MASSIVE

DOCUMENTS IN THE RECORD. >> I AM SURE IT WAS IN, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS EASIER TO ASK RATHER THAN GO THROUGH ALL THE

PAGES TO MAKE SURE I FOUND IT. >>GREG MATOVINA: NO DOUBT.

>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION. CAN YOU PULL UP THE SLIDE WITH THE ROADWAYS. THAT ONE.

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: THIS ONE? >> YEAH, THE ONE THAT IS ZOOMED

IN A LITTLE BIT. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: THE ONE

ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

THE PERSONAL ALONG THE K57 RIVERTOWN ROAD THERE THAT GOES TO GREENBRIAR, INTEREST MAIN STREET.

I AM CONFUSED WITH THE COLORS. THE GREEN IS WETLANDS LANDS.

MOSTLY UPLANDS OR WETLANDS. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: I AM NOT SURE. I DON'T HAVE THAT DETAIL.

THE MAP IS CONCEPTUAL RIVERTOWN IS NOT DESIGNED.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION OF RIVERTOWN ON THIS AREA HE WILL. THIS STREET HAS NOT BEEN DEFENSE SIGNED. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL ALIGNMENT OF THAT ROAD WILL BE. ALL THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER SAYS IS THAT IT HAS TO CONNECT TO GREENBRIAR ROAD AS A

COLLECTOR ROAD. >> THAT REALLY WASN'T INTO I QUESTION AND I DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH AND ASK IT CORRECTLY.

SORRY, MY QUESTION FOR YOU, FOR THAT PARCEL THERE PRESUMING IT IS DEVELOED WITH HOUSING, WHAT IS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE?

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: IN RIVERTOWN, ABOUT 50-FOOT LOTS IN

RIVERTOWN. >> UP AGAINST THE WEST SIDE OF BARTRAM RANCH WE HAVE 50-FOOT LOTS?

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: POSSIBLY, RIVERTOWN HAVE A NUMBER OF LOT SIZES FOR SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY MEANING TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES. MOST OF THE SMALLER LOTS ARE ACROSS FROM THE RIVERFRONT PARK. THOSE COULD BE 50-FOOT-WIDE LOTS. THEY COULD BE .THAT SECTION OF

RIVERTOWN HAS NOT BEEN PLANNED. >> JUSTIN DUDLEY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN WITH THE RIVERFRONT MASTER PLAN.

PODS THAT INCLUDED A MIX OF 40S AND 50S.

AND POD OF 45 TO 80 TO THE WEST OF US AND ANOTHER POD WITH 40S AND 60S IN IT AS WELL SHOWN IN PINK.

>> WILL YOU TRY TO BE A LITTLE BETTER PREPARED NEXT TIME, MR. DUDLEY? [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, THAT IS ALL I HAD. ANYBODY ELSE AT THIS POINT?

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I HAVE A COUPLE.

REAL QUICK. >>GREG MATOVINA: OKAY.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I DO COMMEND THE AMOUNT OF OPEN AND GREEN SPACE THAT YOU ALL ARE PLANNING HERE, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO STILL BE IMPACTING 100 -- APPROXIMATELY 109 ACRES OF WETLANDS. YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE RYAN CARTER COME UP. I AM JUST GOING TO ASK.

IMPACTING 109 ACRES OF WETLANDS. I AM SURE YOU ENGINEERED THIS AND HAVE IT PLANNED OUT, BUT I WAS HOPING YOU COULD GET BY WITH LESS. WE HAD A DISCUSSION BEFORE IN HERE ABOUT BETLAND MITIGATION. BEING MAXED OUT AND MITIGATION BEING HARD TO COME BY SNAP TRUE IN YOUR OPINION?

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MITIGATION. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: I WILL HAVE TOO CALL MR. CARTER UP. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OF THAT.

CASEY, DO YOU KNOW? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

>> RYAN CARTER. THE PROBABLY, THE SOUTHERN PART IS IN BASE- 8 AND NORTHERN PART IN 4.

WE ARE WORKING WITH MITIGATION BANKERS NOW.

THERE ARE AVAILABILITY. CREDIT RELEASES PROJECTED FOR THE FALL AND WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PROCESS IS VERY EARLY.

WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO SECURE THOSE AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO SECURE THE MITIGATION CREDITS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY ARE

IN. >> TO HE WAS ARE FAVORABLE FOR FIENLZING CREDITS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

>> THEY EITHER ARE OR WILL BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND WE ARE SECURING THEM NOW. >> ALL RIGHT, GREAT, THANK YOU.

YOU ARE WELCOME. >>GREG MATOVINA: THAT'S IT? ALL RIGHT. HOW MANY SPEAKER CARDS DO WE H HAVE.

>>CLERK: WE HAVE TWO. CHRISTINE MULI SS.

>> MY NAME IS CHRISTINE MULIS, IN ST. JOHNS.

I AM -- IF YOU LOOK -- LOOK INTO THE ROOM, YOU CAN SEE THIS WHOLE AREA OVER HERE IS EMPLOYEES BY PULTE.

THEIR EXPERTS ARE EMPLOYEES BY PULTE.

RAJ IS AN EMPLOYEE OF PULTE. I'M HERE SPEAKING FOR MY HOME, MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, MY SCHOOL, THE LIVELIHOOD OF -- OF MY COMMUNITY. PART OF A GROUP CALLED GREENBRIAR PRESERVATION GROUP, THAT IS COMPRISED OF ALL THE COMMUNITIES AROUND GREENBRIAR ROAD.

AND NOBODY IS IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

SO RIGHT NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PREPARING FOR SCHOOL.

NOT A GREAT TIME FOR ALL OF US TO BE HERE.

SO LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION, I AM FRUSTRATED THAT MANY THINGS ARE SKEWED. AND, AGAIN, I'M HERE JUST REPRESENTING MY FAMILY. HOPEFULLY YOU RECEIVED THE E-MAIL FROM THE COMMUNTY AS WELL AS THE ATTORNEY LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO YOU ALL. COMPATIBILITY.

THIS -- THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND OFF OF GREEN PRIOR ROAD A QUARTER AN ACRE ON AVERAGE. RIVER TOWN IS NOT ALONG GREENBRIAR ROAD. IT IS NOT DIRECTLY NEXT TO THIS TO POSED NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEY WANT TO PUT IN THESE TEENY, TINY POSTAGE STAMP LOTS RIGHT NEAR -- RIGHT NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH ONE OR TWO ACRE LOTS.

AND -- AND MILLION DOLLAR HOMES AND IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE.

SO I DISAGREE WITH -- WITH THAT. WE ASK THAT IF YOU APPROVE IT, TO MAKE -- ASK THE LOT SIZE TODAY BE LARGER.

THE SCHOOLS ARE BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. THEY HAD UP THERE TOCOI AND BEACHSIDE WHICH IS NOT ZONED -- THAT IS NOT WHERE OUR KIDS ARE ZONED TO GO.

THERE IS NO HIGH SCHOOL. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL. THE CARPOOL LANE IS RIDICULOUS.

IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THEY ARE DOING IT TO EARN BROWNIE POINTS. AND IT DOESN'T HELP WITH THE LENGTH OF THE LINE AT ALL. AND THE CONNECTING THROUGH BARTRAM IS SPITTING ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL CARS OUT RIGHT ALONG AN INTERSECTION WHERE KIDS ARE WALKING TO SCHOOL AND ALREADY A HUGE PROBLEM THERE RIGHT NOW. SOME WIFE LOVE TO SEE OUR PEOPLE DO A STUDY FOR THAT. THE TRAFFIC EAST OF 210, THEY ARE THERE IS NO PLANS TO FOUR-LANE THAT ROAD AT ALL AND I CAN GO ON AND ON. HOPEFULLY YOU RECEIVED OUR E-MAILS AND KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF

THIS AT ALL. >> CHUCK LEBONOWSKI.

I TOLD JUSTIN I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT SHE BROUGHT UP SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS ME AND DR. HILSENBECK ALSO.

AND THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER IS THE SCHOOLS.

BARTRAM IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. TEN PORTABLE CLASSROOMS RIGHT

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TOCOI, A BRAND-NEW SCHOOL, THEY JUST INSTALLED 16 PORTABLE CLASSROOMS BEACH WALK, IF IT GOES THE WAY IT HAS BEEN GOING EVERYWHERE ELSE AND THAT WHOLE AREA IS GROWING, I SEE PORTABLE CLASSROOMS THERE AS WELL. SO THE CONCERN IS -- YES, BIG MAJORITY GOING TO BE AGE RESTRICTED BUT ALSO THAT PORTION THAT IS NOT. AND HOPEFULLY THE I WILL HAVE VERY LEAF COMES ON LINE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL LONG BEFORE IT IS TAKEN TO COURT TO COME ONLINE OR BEACH WALK TO COME ON LINE.

THE SCHOOL SCHOOL BOARD HAS TO DO SOMETHING.

I URGE YOU TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARDS TO HAVE THEM CAUGHT UP WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH. THANK YOU.

>>CLERK: NO MORE SPEAKERS. >>GREG MATOVINA: OKAY, WOULD YOU LIKE -- LIKE TO OFFER SOME REBUTTAL.

YES, COME ON UP, SIR. >> MY NAME IS-TO- CHHANDRA AND I LIVED OFF OF GREENBRIAR COURT. WHEN WE MOVED OUT THERE THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT ROAD. WE NOW HAVE EIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT AREA. OUR ROAD HAS BECOME INCREASE LEAGUE MORE AND MORE CROWDED. MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS PULTE DEVELOPMENT IS THE LOT SIZE.

THE CAPACITIABILITY WITH HOUSES WITH HOUSE.

THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, THIS LAND HAS BEEN ATTEMPTED TO BE REZONED A COUPLE OF TIMES PARTICULARLY BY MR. ANDERSON WHICH WAS THE GREENBRIAR ANDERSON PUD WHICH IS BARTRAM RANCH.

HE COULDN'T MAKE IT. HE COULDN'T DO IT AT THAT TIME.

THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS LOT SIZES. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW SOMETHING ON CAMERA HERE, PLEASE COMPATIBILITY DOESN'T NECESSARY SEARLY MEAN THE SAME AS BUT CONSISTENCY IS IMPORTANT.

DENSITY AND INTENSITY IS IMPORTANT.

YOU SEE GREENBRIER, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ORIGINAL, ONE-ACRE LOTS. BARTRAM PLANTATION CAME ALONG AND CARL DAWSON DEVELOPED THAT AND I AM DOING HALF-ACRE LOTS MINIMUM AND BARTRAM PRESERVE AND THE COLONIES CAME IN.

HALF-ACRE LOTS. THAT DEVELOPER SAID HALF-ACRE LOT MINIMUM. NO PROBLEMS. MILL CREEK CAME IN AT.16. 6 6900. SIX HOUSES ON AN ANCHOR OF LAND AN KENDALL CREEK AT.17. SIX HOUSES PER ACRE.

GREENBRIAR 38 HOUSES AND MAJOR MODIFICATION AND ADDED 260 HOUSES. UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME WHEN I DEALT WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT THEY AGREED TO INCREASE THEIR HOUSE SIZE. AND MR. ANDERSON WAS GOOD.

HE SAID I WILL GET 365 HOUSES. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE LOT SIZE IT. HE ADDED MORE ACREAGE TO WHAT HE WANTED TO DEVELOP. HE OWNED ALL 1300 ACRES THAT PULTE DEVELOPED AND THE LANDINGS.

5500 SQUARE FEET. THAT IS EIGHT HOUSES PER ACRE.

AND THE REAR ALLEY HOUSE AT 3800 SQUARE FEET.

11 HOUSES PER ACRE THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT FOR COMPATIBLE WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE ORIGINAL. RON SANCHEZ, FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONER SAID WHAT WAS THERE FIRST MATTERS FIRST.

I WAS HERE FIRST. I MATTER FIRST.

WE NEED CONTROLLED MANAGED GROWTH.

YOU GUYS DO NOT GIVE THAT IF YOU APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AS IS.

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER.

MARY -- SORRY I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME.

>> MARY MOGLE. I LIVE IN THE KENDALL CREEK SUBDIVISION. I HEARD EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. AS CHRISTINE SAID, THERE IS A LARGE GROUP OVER HERE AND JUST VERY FEW OF US AND WE RECEIVED

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I COME HOME EVERY SINGLE DAY AND TWO OF US RIGHT HERE.

700 AND SOME ODD HOME AND EVEN IF THREE QUARTERS OF THEM DO WHAT WE DO, YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY ONLY RIGHT NOW ONLY HAVE ONE ACCESS ROAD IN AND OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THE FIRST PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IS THE PART THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THAT IS THE FIRST PART YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD. NOT BUILD THE AGE-RESTRICTED UNTIL AFTER YOU FINISH THE BEGINNING OF IT.

IF YOU TRAVELLEDED THAT ROAD, YOU WILL SEE THAT WHEN YOU DO THE FOUR LANES, THEY WILL BE TAKING FROM THE ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT IS WHERE MOST OF THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ARE, THAT IS ALSO WHERE THE SIDEWALKS ARE. SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE TAKING ALL OF THAT OUT. THAT IS WHERE THE CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL. IF YOU DO NOT LIVE MORE THAN TWO MILES FROM THE SCHOOL, YOU MUST USE THAT -- THOSE SIDEWALKS AND THAT ROAD. SO YOU GOT THE STRUCTURE FROM SAFETY STANDPOINT. YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

YOU WILL HAVE ALL THE TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT.

AND, YES, BARTRAM RANCH IS VERY UPSET BECAUSE THAT WILL EGRESS ALMOST EXACTLY ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE CAL LONNIE IS.

AND THE OTHER WOULD REALLY CREATE MAJOR ISSUES FOR THE TWO YEARS BEFORE IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY DONE OKAY.

SO SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE ARE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL.

I KNOW YOU GUYS LISTEN, BUT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE OUTNUMBERED WITH OUR FACTS AND OUR FIGURES AND I LIVED IN THE COUNTY SINCE 1979. I MOVED FROM PORTION TO PORTION.

SO I HAVE SEEN WHAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE AND HOW WELL IT HAS DONE AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH 3500 HOMES GOING UP INTO T THE HILO AREA. IF IT WAS SOMETHING SMALLER, I DON'T THINK I WOULD OBJECT QUITE AS MUCH AND VERY, VERY LEARN DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE COMING IN OF A SMALLER SIZE.

SO IT IS REALLY GOING TO IMPACT US EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE SAYS IT NOT. SO THAT IS MY PEACE.

>>GREG MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT. WILL THE APPLICANT LIKE TO OFFER

SOME REBUTTAL? >> YES, JUST TO KICK OFF FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. BECAUSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM.

I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE GOT TWO LAND USE APPLICATION WHICH ARE POLICYMAKING DECISIONS, BUT THEY ARE ALSO -- SO THOSE ARE LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE AND 2007 TWO REZONING APPLICATIONS WHICH ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL THAT REQUIRE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

AS PART OF THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE, THE LANDOWNER, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, THE LANDOWNER IS REQUIRED TO PUT TOGETHER APPLICATIONS THAT MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION REPORT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE COMP PLANNING THAT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COMPLY WITH THE LAW. SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE EXPERT WITNESSES HAND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED BEFORE YOU TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPERT WITNESSES. I WANT MEMBERS OF PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT. WE ARE NOT AN ARMY, WE ARE LITERALLY A TEAM. WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY'S PROFESSIONAL STAFF BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS A REALLY GOOD STUFF THAT REVIEW ALL THE APPLICATION MATERIALS AND GIVES US COMMENTS BACK TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW.

SO I WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED OF AN APPLICANT FOR ANY OF THESE KINDS OF, YOU KNOW -- THESE KIND OF PROJECTS. SO WE ARE GOING TO LET CASEY TALK OF COMPATIBILITY AND JUSTIN TALK ABOUT SCHOOLS.

>> CAN YOU FLIP TO THE COMPATIBILITY SLIDE I AM GOING TO LET YOU -- OKAY. SO WE HAVE PREPARED -- YOUR STAFF PREPARED AND INCLUDED IN THIS STAFF REPORT A COMPATIBILITY MAP THAT LOOKED AT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE SURROUNDING SUBDIVISIONS. LOOKING AT THIS, THE GREENBRIAR HAS A MINIMUM LOT WITH WIDTH 690 FEET.

LOOKING BEYOND THAT BARTRAM RANCH 85 LOT WIDTH.

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WORTHINGTON ESTATES AT 63-FOOT LOTS.

LAKES AT MILL CREEK AT A MINIMUM OF 63-FOOT LOTS.

RIVERTOWN WHICH SURROUNDS OUR PROPERTY ON MORE THAN 70% OUR PRE WITH MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 3265 FEET.

I SPOKE TO OUR ENGINEERS AT MILLER AND THE AVERAGE ENGINEERED LOT DEPTH IS 125 FEET.

IN ORDER FOR A LOT TO BE A MINIMUM OF A QUARTER ACRE A 90-FOOT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH. AGAIN AT THE AVERAGE.

NONE OF THESE HAVE A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH EXCEPT FOR THE GREENBRIAR SUBDIVISION WITH THE STANDARD RS-2 ZONING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT I DID THE MATH AND ALSO FOUND OF ALL OF THE AREAS, $654 HAD LOTS HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 0 FEET FOR GREATER. 13% OF THE LOTS APPROVED IN THAT SURROUNDING AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO SHOW WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN THERE.

BUT I ALSO PULLED SOME AERIAL IMAGERY THAT SHOW WHERE EXISTING LARGER LOTS CO-EXIST NEXT TO SMALLER LOTS.

AGAIN THAT GOES BACK TO THE DEFENSE DEFINITION OF THE COMPATIBILITY AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT TWO USES CAN CO-EXIST WITHOUT TWO BEING NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.

SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES NEXT TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT IS NOT BEING COMPATIBLE WITH A INDUSTRIAL PARK NEXT TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT.

REMOVED IF YOU KEEP SPEAKING UP. OKAY, NOW IS THE SECOND.

HAVE HIM REMOVED. SIR, YOU WANT -- SECURITY TO

COME GET YOU? >> HOW FAST DO YOU WANT ME TO

WALK OUT THE DOOR? >>GREG MATOVINA: I WANT YOU TO BE QUIET AND LEAVE PLEASE CONTINUE.

>> TWO OTHER AERIAL IMAGES OF OTHER PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY THAT ALSO SHOW WHERE YOUR LARGER LOTS CO-EXIST WITH YOUR SMALLER LOTS AND THAT CONCLUDES MY CONVERSATION ON THE COMPATIBILITY AND THE LOT WIDTHS AND I WILL HAND THAT BACK OVER

TO ELLEN AND JUSTIN. >> AS FOR THE COMMENTS OFTEN SCHOOLS, SCHOOL GENERATION GRAPH THAT WAS BACK ON THE POWERPOINT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS SLIDE NUMBER 25, BECAUSE THE SIGNIFICANCE IN THAT WAS HEARING THE CONCERNS ABOUT BARTRAM HIGH AND THE CAPACITIES THERE. WE SAW HOW OVERCAPACITY IT WAS, AND WE WANTED TO NOTE FROM THE WORK PLAN AGAIN THAT THERE IS A DECLINE IN WHAT -- WHAT THE HIGH SCHOOL IS USING FOR PORTABLES.

WHEN YOU SEE THE CAPACITY IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS, THEY WERE USING 16 PORTABLES. ACTUALLY IN THEIR WORKPLAN FOR RELOCATE OR PORTABLES THEY ARE ALREADY REDUCING PORTABLES FROM 16 DOWN TO 10, WHICH SUPPORT WHAT YOU SEE THE DECLINE IN STUDENT ATTENDANCE IN THAT SCHOOL AS WELL.

THEN YOU PUT THAT IN CONTEXT, THIS PROJECT IN ITSELF IS LIKELY A TEN-PLUS-YEAR PROJECT. STUDENT GENERATION AS IT RELATES TO THE HIGH SCHOOL HERE IS 128 STUDENTS.

SO WHAT WE WOULD BE BRINGING ONLINE BEGINNING AFTER FIRST CLOSINGS IN 2026, WHICH IS NOT SHOWN ON THE GRAPH BECAUSE HAVEN'T YET PROJECTED THE ATTENDANCE FOR THOSE YEARS BUT WE WILL BE BRINGING ON 13 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS PER YEAR BEGINNING AFTER 2026. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TODAY, IS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CURRENT SCHOOLS AS WELL AS THE -- THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, AND THE IMPACT OF SCHOOLS MUCH

FURTHER DOWN IN THE FUTURE. >>GREG MATOVINA: ANYTHING ELSE.

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: NOT UNLESS THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

>>GREG MATOVINA: RICHARD. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I AM A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCERNED OF COMPATIBILITY THAN I WAS BEFORE, BUT JUST TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT MR. MATOVINA ASKED A WHILE AGO. HE SAID MIGHT THERE BE 50-FOOT LOTS. I WROTE THIS DOWN.

I DIDN'T ASK IT DURING MY QUESTIONS EARLIER, BUT IT DOES STATE IN THE APPLICATION THAT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 50 FEET FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES ARE LIKELY AND THERE MAY BE 35-FOOT FOR PARCELS ACCESSED VIA A REAR ALLEYWAY.

NOW YOU SHOWED A GRAPH EARLIER, A CHART UP THERE THAT SAID YOU ARE GOING TO LIMIT THOSE 35-FOOT WITH A REAR ALLEY TO 5%.

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>> SO THE MINIMUM AT THE PUD IS STATED AT THE MINUTE PUMPKIN.

WE CAN BUILD LOTS LARGER THAN THAT.

WE WENT THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING PLAN.

AND THEY ARE NOT FINALIZED AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH IT.

OUR LOTS RANGE FROM 50 FEET TO 70 FEET AND THE ALLEY-LOADED LOTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE LANDINGS OF GREENBRIAR PEACE.

I AM FLIPPING -- ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT -- THIS IS OUR PROJECT AREA.

THE LOTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN PURPLE ON THE MAP TO YOUR RIGHT IS WHERE THE ALLEY-LOADED LOTS WILL BE.

FRONTING THE SPINE ROAD AS IT ENTERS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THOSE WILL NOT EXCEED 5% OF THE OVERALL MASTER PLANNED COMMU COMMUNITY.

>> RICHARD, CAN I CLARIFY SOMETHING.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: YES, SIR.

>>GREG MATOVINA: ASKING OF LOT SIZE, PARCEL OF RIVERTOWN THAT LIES TO THE WEST AND WHERE THE MAIN STREET IS.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: YEP. >>GREG MATOVINA: I WANTED TO KNOW BECAUSE IT IS ADJACENT TO THE BARTRAM RANCH, BUT ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT GENTLEMAN LIVES IN WITH THE ONE-ACRE LOT.

32 LOTS. AND THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO

SMALL LOTS IN THAT AREA. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. BEFORE I GET TO THIS -- ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ONE THING -- AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HEARD THAT.

YOU MAY HAVE MISS SPOKEN, ELLEN. WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY WOULD BE OPEN IN 2023.

I DID HEAR YOU SAY THAT. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: NO,

2028-2030. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: THAT

IS WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: WE ARE IN

2023, SIX AND A HALF -- >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I AM GOING TO REQUEST THAT WE GO BACK ON THE TAPE.

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: IF YOU ARE RIGHT, I AM NOT TOO PROUD TO

ADMIT I AM WRONG. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT. I DIDN'T THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU MEANT TO SAY. IF I HEARD IT CORRECTLY.

IT COULD BE ME. AND HOW MANY APPROVED AND PLATTED BUT UNBUILT ON LOTS EXIST IN ST. JOHNS HAPPENED RIGHT NOW. THE LAST FIGURES IN THE COUNTY WAS OVER A YEAR AGO. AND SOMETHING LIKE 65, 66,000.

I DON'T KNOW. I I AM GUESSING SOMEWHERE AROUND 70,000 OF LOTS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED AND PLATTED, BUT UNBUILT UPON. DO YOU HAVE THOSE DATA?

AND, YES. >> YES, SIR.

COUNTYWIDE -- COUNTYWIDE, THERE ARE 142,155 APPROVED LOTS.

83,888 ARE BUILT WHICH LEAVES $58,257 UNBUILT AS COUNTYWIDE.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY. AS OF WHAT DATE.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: PRETTY RECENT.

THANK YOU VERY FOR THAT. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: THE QUESTION HOW MANY IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.

I BELIEVE IN THE VOLUME LULLIST DOCUMENT IN OUR STAFF REPORT, YOU WILL FIND THE NEEDS ANALYSIS FOR THE NEED FOR HOUSING IN THE

NORTHWEST SECTOR OF THE COUNTY. >>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: OKAY.

HAND THIS IS OUR YOU WILL HAVE LUMINOUS DATA AND REPORTS.

CONCERNING THE ROADS, I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT TO MAKE.

LET'S SEE. WHAT DO WE WRITE OUT HERE.

I UNDERSTAND FULLY THAT YOU AND YOUR CLIENT AND THE PULTE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT BE EXPECTED TO PAY FOR THE FULL COST OF LONG OVERDUE ROAD NEEDS. I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO THE CURRENT RESIDENTS TO AREA THAT ARE ADVERSELY IMPACTED AND DEFICIENT TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THESE OVERCROWDING OF ROADS AND ADDITIONAL 8475 TRIPS ON THERE ARE GOING TO BE ON THOSE ROADS EVEN WITH IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK IT WILL BE CRUSHING. I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE -- YOU WILL CATCH UP AND IT WILL BE BACK TO THE SAME SITUATION EVEN WITH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. BUT THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I AM NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. I -- I JUST FEEL THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PREMATURE. AND THAT WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE COUNTY CATCHES UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, THAT INCLUDES SCHOOLS AND ROADS BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS APPROVED. THAT IS MY STATEMENT THERE.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

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THANK YOU. >>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: THANK YOU.

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I DO APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION FROM ALL THREE OF YOU. AND RYAN CARTER.

>>GREG MATOVINA: OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THEN WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

AND IF YOU ALL -- ONE OF YOU WILL STAY UP THERE WHEN I GIVE SOME COMMENTS. I MIGHT WANT TO YOU FLIP TO A SLIDE. MEAGHAN, AND WE WILL TAKE THEM

2001 AT A TTIME. >>MEAGHAN PERKINS: NOTION RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL SCALE, 2022-01, THE LANDINGS OF GREENBRIAR OF FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT IN THE STAFF REPORT. ?

>>GREG MATOVINA: MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MEAGHAN.

SECOND BY ELVIS. DISCUSSION? OKAY. I HAVE -- ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS I WANT TO MAKE. NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE ANALYSIS THAT RICHARD WENT FLEW, WHAT WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING IS OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.

THE BIG ONE THERE IS COLLECTED IMPACT FEE MONIES AND RESTRICTIONS HOW THEY CAN BE USED BROWS THE COUNTY GETS CARVED UP INTO AREAS AND STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THOSE MONIES CAN BE ACCUMULATED IN AREAS AND USED TO SUPPLEMENT DEVELOPER FUNDING TO COMPLETE ROADS.

SO IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE DEVELOPERS FUNDING PORTION, THAT -- I THINK THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A -- OF A -- OF A MISDIRECTION. AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES, BUT THEY ARE SPORADIC LIKE FTOT HELPING OUT FROM TIME TO TIME. I WOULD JUST MAKE THAT STATEMENT. I DON'T REALLY NECESSARILY NEED A RESPONSE TO IT, BUT WE CAN'T JUST LOOK AT DEVELOPER FUNDING FOR THESE ROADS AS BEING THE ONLY SOURCE.

THE SECOND THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP, AND IF YOU LOOK AT -- I CAN'T -- I DON'T KNOW COLORS VERY WELL, YOU LOOK WHERE ROBERTS ROAD INTERSECTS WITH 13.

IT YOU POINT THAT OUT, HELEN ELLEN.

I LIVE AS THE CROW FLIES, A MILE SOUTH OF THERE ON THOSE KIND OF RURAL ROADS YOU SEE BACK IN THERE.

AND A VERY SMART MAN THAT I KNOW ONCE SAID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR WHEN THEY BECOME UNCOMFORTABLE WITH CONDITIONS. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TRIANGLE, A RUN DEGREE BAIT OF OUR HOUSE HOLD AND MY DAUGHTER THAT LIVES ACROSS THE STREET HER HOUSE HOLD.

THE SHORTEST WAY TO GO TO BARTRAM TRAIL.

RIGHT ON 13 AND COME NORTH ON ROBERTS AND I THINK IT IS TO GO LEFT ON STATE ROAD 13 AND THEN COME BACK ON GREENBRIAR.

THAT IS LONGER. BUT I WILL GO THAT WAY WHEN SCHOOL IS NOT IN SESSION FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BECAUSE WHEN IT IS NOT SCHOOL TIME, THE TRAFFIC ON GREENBRIAR BETWEEN 13 AND LONGLEAF IS NEXT TO NOTHING AND THE SPEED LIMIT IS 55 MILES PER HOUR.

IT'S -- IT DROPS DOWN TO 45 IN PLACE BUS 45 TO 55 MILES PER HOUR. IF I KNOW THAT I HAVE TO GO PAST THOSE SCHOOLS WHEN THERE IS TRAFFIC THERE, BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING LET OUT OR -- ORRING DROPPED OFF, I WILL JUST GO UP ROBERTS. BUT ROBERTS IS NOT A GREAT ROAD TO RIDE ON. IT CAN'T BE WIDENED.

AND I DON'T REALLY -- QUITE FRANKLY A LITTLE CONSCIENTIOUS AND I DON'T WANT TO GO ON THE ROAD AND MESS UP OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES. I WANT TO MESS UP THE ROADS THAT ARE INTENDED TO DRIVE ON. MY DAUGHTER AND SON-IN CONTINUE LAW OTHERWISE WANT TO GO THE FASTEST WAY, THE SHORTEST ROUTE.

PEOPLE WILL ADJUST THEIR BEHAVIOR.

IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE FUTURE TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN HERE.

WE HAVE ALL KIND OF LITTLE TRIANGLE WHERE IS PEOPLE CAN ADJUST THEIR BEHAVIOR BASED ON TIMES WENT THE ROADS MAY BE CLOGGED. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT. I AM SURE THAT IS FACTORED INTO THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS, BUT IN THE FUTURE, THOSE -- THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS MAY CHANGE BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENTS.

I MIGHT DECIDE TO DRIVE BY THE SCHOOL ONCE THIS TURN LANE -- STAFFING LANE IS BUILT. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS TO MAKE.

>>ELLEN AVERY SMITH: THANK YOU. >>GREG MATOVINA: THANK YOU, ELLEN. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I PROMISE NOT TO REPEAT THAT THREE MORE TIMES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE VOTE THAT

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>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: MOTION TO THE AND WILLS OF GREENBRIAR BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT. SECOND BY HENRY.

ANY DISCUSSION? REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-1. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ADOPTION OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 2022-06, LANDINGS OF ST. JOHNS BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

IN. >>GREG MATOVINA: MOTION BY MEGAN

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AND SECOND BY HENRY. >>HENRY GREEN: TAKE SOME OF THE WORKLOAD OFF, BUT KEEP GOING MANATEE

MANATEE. >>GREG MATOVINA: LET'S REGISTER THE ROTE. PASSES 5-1.

>>MEAGHAN PERKINS: MOTION FOR 2022-20, THE LANDINGS OF ST.

JOHNS. >>GREG MATOVINA: MOTION B BY MEAGHAN. SECOND BY HENRY.

ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

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>>TERESA BISHIP: YES, SIR. I WILL JUST ABOVE YOU THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

MR. WILSON HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MEMBER. AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS MOVING FORWARD TO FIND A NEW SCHOOL DISTRICT MEMBER.

>>GREG MATOVINA: THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK THE PULTE TEAM AND ETM AND ROGERS TOWERS FOR ALL THE HOMEWORK THEY DID.

BECAUSE I AM SURE WE COULD HAVE BEEN HERE A LOT LONGER ON THIS ITEM. BEING HERE OF A LOT LONGER, THERE WAS A MEETING HELD THIS PAST TUESDAY NIGHT TO DEAL WITH THE ITEM THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA TWO WEEKS FROM FEW, T THE PONDRE VEDA CLUB, THE PUD ZONING.

DEPENDING ON WHO YOU LISTEN TO OVER 400 OR 600 PEOPLE ATTENDED.

SO STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON SOME MANS AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WAYS THAT WE CAN MOVE HOW THAT THE HEARING AS FAST AS WE CAN. BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE A LENGTHY MEETING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. I BELIEVE WE ARE SETTING IT FOR A TIME CERTAIN PAT 3 P.M., IS TAT RIGHT?

>>TERESA BISHOP: YESTERDAY. >>GREG MATOVINA: WE WILL DO THE OTHER ITEMS FIRST AND DO A TIME CERTAIN.

SETTING A TIME CERTAIN FOR THE K57 CHAIRMAN TO BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THE MEETING TO 8 P.M. BUT WE HAVE THE OPTION TO EXTEND THAT TO 10 P.M. SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT.

I DON'T THINK MOST OF YOU ALL -- I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU ALL WERE ON THE BOARD THE LAST TIME WE HAD A LONG MEETING LIKE THIS, BUT IF WE ARE GOING BEYOND 6 P.M., WE PROBABLY WILL TAKE A BREAK FOR 30 MINUTES AND THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING HERE FOR US TO EAT SO WE DON'T PALS OUT. SO THAT -- THAT IS WHAT IS

PLANNED FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT THE -- IS

IT THE 7TH? >>GREG MATOVINA: NO, AUGUST 17.

>> AUGUST 17. OKAY, FINE, RIGHT.

TWO WEEKS. >>GREG MATOVINA: RICHARD, DID YOU SUDDENLY GET ILL TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE?

>>DR. RICHARD HILSENBECK: I WAS JUST THINKING.

SHOULD WE -- THIS IS A SUGGESTION -- I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ITEM UNTIL I WALKED OUT THE DOOR AND THE SECURITY GUARD MENTION IT TO ME. I WAS UNAWARE OF IT.

SHOULD WE HAVE THE TIME CERTAIN FOR THIS STARTING AT 1:30 RIGHT AWAY SO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET THE MEET SOMETHING IN? INSTEAD OF 3:

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