[27. Motion to allocate $500,000 of Category 1 Reserve funds (1144-59920) to Contractual Services (1144-53120) and to allocate an additional $500,000 of Category 4 Reserve funds (1148-59920) to Special Events (1148-54801) to be expended for the support of the upcoming September 2023 Sing Out Loud event.]

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND THE SECOND AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?LEASE VOTE. ART. WE HAVE A REGULAR AGENDA.

SO ÃTHIS WEEKEND WAS TO AGENDA ITEM 1A ÃÃWHICH IS FORMALLY CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 27.

WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT SPEAKS. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. CULTURAL DEVELOPMENTS AND I AM HERE THIS MORNING FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27. IT HAS NOW BEEN RELOCATED TO 1A.

THIS REQUEST IS FOR THE ALLOCATION OF A TOTAL OF $1 MILLION OF TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT

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TAX RESERVES. $500,000 COMING FROM CATEGORY ONE, WHICH IS DESTINATION MARKETING AND THE $500,000 COMING FROM CATEGORY FOUR, WHICH IS ADMIN SPECIAL USES AD SPECIAL EFFECTS.HE FUNDING WILL GO TO THE DANCING OUT LOUD FESTIVAL.

IT'S WHOLE, BUT IT'S REALLY FOCUSING ON THE EVENT THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE AT FRANCE'S FIELD, WHICH INCLUDES SOME KEY ARTISTS LIKE BLACKIE'S AND MUMFORD AND SONS.

THE FUNDING WILL BE USED FOR ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED MARKETING FOR TICKET SALES.

AS WELL AS INCREASED EXPENSES FOR THINGS LIKE SECURITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSES.

JUST GENERAL LOGISTICS AND OPERATIONS FOR HAVING THAT LARGER SCALE EVENT.

THIS IS THE EIGHTH YEAR THAT WE ARE HAVING SING OUT LOUD HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

IT WAS STARTED BECAUSE SEPTEMBER IS HISTORICALLY OUR SLOWEST MONTH FOR TOURISM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND SO THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD START AN EVENT THAT WAS SIMILAR TO KIND OF THE IDEA THAT STARTED BEHIND NIGHTS OF LIGHTS.

SO NIGHTS OF LIGHTS STARTED IN WHAT USED TO BE THE SLOWEST TIME OF THE YEAR IN DECEMBER.

DECEMBER IS NO LONGER THE SLOWEST TIME. SO SING OUT LOUD WAS STARTED KIND OF TO MIRROR THAT TO GIVE US A NICE EVENT THAT WAS TAKING PLACE DURING WHAT IS NOW OUR SLOWEST TIME FOR THE EVENTS HAVE BEEN GROWING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE ARE DOING THIS VERY LARGE EVENT AT FRANCE'S FIELD ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT. SO THIS FUNDING WILL LET US SUCCESSFULLY PULL OFF THE EVENT. AND A NICE SEAMLESS ENJOYABLE WAY.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> YES, I'VE PULLED THIS FOR JUST A COUPLE OF REASONS BECAUSE I'VE DONE MAJOR EVENTS BEFORE. BEFORE I BECAME A COMMISSIONER.

AND A COUPLE OF THINGS ÃÃ THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE ACTUAL BUDGET OVER THE WEEKEND.

I APPRECIATE IT. IT LOOKS LIKE $500,000 IS GOING TO ADVERTISING AND IT'S VERY LATE IN THE GAME. WE HAVE TO MAKE THE ADS AND IF THE COME UP WITH THEM AND DO THE BUYS AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS WHEN I WATCH THE TDC MEETING BEFORE OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH IS OVER TWO WEEKS AGO ÃÃTHAT POINT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE BOARD AND THEY SAID THAT IF WE NEED TO RUSH THE MUSHY THE MONEY AND SO WE HAD A RED FOLDER LAST MEETING FOR $400,000. SO 399. SO WE CAN GET THE ADVERTISING OUT. THE LAST TIME YOU 8000 TICKET SALES AND AS OF TODAY YOU HAVE 9800 AND WE SPENT ALMOST HALF $1 MILLION. SO MY CONCERN IS STARTING ANOTHER $500,000 AT THIS. BECAUSE YOUR GOAL IS 24,000 PEOPLE AND IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO GET THERE. SO MY THOUGHT WAS THE EXTRA 500 THAT YOU NEEDED TO COVER YOUR EXPENSES ÃÃTHE TOTAL BUDGET IS 3.4 MILLION AND YOU HAVE TO BUDGET AND KEEP ON BUDGET FOR IT BECOMES A TAX ISSUE OF I MEAN, THAT PEOPLE ON THE TAX MONEY FROM HEADS IN BEDS. NO MATTER WHAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT SPENT PROPERLY. MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THE MILLION DOLLARS GOES INTO A FUND WHERE YOU TURN YOUR RECEIPTS AND GET REIMBURSED FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS FROM NOW ON.

BECAUSE IT IT SHOULD REALLY BE THE TICKET SALES. THEY ARE NOT APPLIED TO THIS ANY MANNER. I'M NOT SURE THE TICKET MONEY SALE GOES AS WELL AS ALL THE ADVERTISING. IT'S TOO LATE. IT'S FIVE WEEKS AWAY.

SIX WEEKS AWAY. SIX WEEKS AWAY FROM THE $22,000.

THE ITEM FROM LAST WEEK WAS FOR $400,000 TO GO TO THE CONVENTION BUREAU.

$300,000 OF THOSE FUNDS WAS FOR GENERAL LEISURE ADVERTISING FOR THE MONTHS OF AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. AND THE IDEA BEHIND THAT ÃÃ THE TDC FELT THAT WE SAW THE MARKET SOFTENED AND ALL BUT TO THE TOURISM MARKET WAS ALSO DECREASES AND INCREASES BUT WE ARE SEEING SOME VOLATILITY IN BOTH OUR AVERAGE DAILY RATE. AND OUR OCCUPANCY PERCENTAGE.

AND SO ÃTHAT'S WHAT WAS EXPRESSED THERE WAS AN URGENCY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE SOME GENERAL LEISURE TOWARDS THE BOOST WITH THOSE FUNDS IN MEANINGFULLY AUGUST ÃÃBUT ALSO SEPTEMBER. THAT WE WOULD NEED TO JUMP ON THAT.

PART OF THAT $400,000 WAS FORCING OUT LOUD. IT WAS $100,000 THAT AGAIN WAS GOING TO THE CONVENTION BUREAU. AND THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE FOR GENERAL AWARENESS OF SAYING OUT LOUD.O AGAIN, SINGING OUT LOUD IS A THREE WEEK LONG FESTIVAL AND ONE OF THE WEEKENDS IS A TICKETED EVENT. SO THERE WILL BE FREE EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY FOR THIS THREE WEEK PERIOD PER THE VISITORS AND THE CONVENTION BUREAU'S HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BOOST IF YOU WILL. IT IS INTENDED TO RAISE GENERAL AWARENESS.

OF SAYING OUT LOUD AS OPPOSED TO PROMOTING TICKET SALES THEMSELVES.

SO THIS EVENT ÃÃTHE BLACK KEYS MUMFORD AND SONS FESTIVAL THAT WILL TAKE PLACE OVER TWO DAYS AT FRANCE'S FIELD WAS ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED BACK IN I BELIEVE MARCH.

AND WE BEEN DOING THE MARKETING CONSISTENTLY SINCE MARCH. SO WE DO HAVE SOME ADVERTISING

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CREATED THAT WAS ALREADY PUT TOGETHER. AND IT'S BEEN A CONTINUOUS MARKETING EFFORT. SO ÃÃTHIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD ALLOW US TO KEEP THAT PUSH GOING. TO HELP US MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO THE 24,000 TICKET SALES.

WE ARE CLOSE TO ABOUT 10,000. SO ÃÃKIND OF CONSIDERING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE PLANS SIGNIFICANTLY IN ADVANCE. ESPECIALLY FOR OUR TOUR SOME MARKET ÃÃMOST PEOPLE MAKE THEIR PLANS WITHIN THREE MONTHS WHEN THEY COME HERE WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM TAKING PLACE WITHIN 30 DAYS BEFORE THEY SHOW UP. MARKETING NOW AS LONG AS WE START IN AUGUST ÃÃIT'S NOT UNREASONABLE WE WILL BE ABLE TO SELL THOSE TICKETS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. JUST LOOKING AT OUR TRENDS ÃÃ AND SO ÃÃIT'S NOT THAT WE ARE STARTING NOW LIKE WE ARE STARTING FROM SCRATCH ÃÃIT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNREASONABLE ASKED.T'S KIND OF A BALL THAT'S BEEN ROLLING DOWN THE HILL.

>> EVEN IF IT'S JUST CUMULATIVE. >> GIVEN AT THE MEETING A COUPLE PEOPLE MENTIONING THAT IT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY. AND THAT THE OTHER PERSON WAS A WOMAN. I DON'T KNOW HER NAME. GAIL I THINK? AND SHE MENTIONED THAT HER BUDGET FOR CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL EVENTS IS $400,000 FOR THE YEAR. SO ÃÃI DID ÃÃI DID FEEL THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TIGHTENING UP OF THIS. ESPECIALLY GOING FORWARD. I THINK WE NEED TO STAY ON BUDGET FOR THREE AND HALF MILLION DOLLARS. AND AN EXTRA $1 MILLION I DO THINK THAT SHOULD BE PEOPLE SHOULD ÃÃTHAT SHOULD BE IN THE FUND FOR THE COUNTY OR IN THE TAX. WHEREVER THIS SITS THAT THEY SHOULD PUT IN RECEIPTS TO GET THE MONEY OUT. BECAUSE I JUST ÃÃI DISAGREE WITH YOU ARE TOO LATE FOR $500,000. THE WAY THE TICKET SALES ARE GOING, THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE APPLYING TO THAT AND THAT'S THE HEAT. LIBERTY WANTS TO BE OUTSIDE IN THIS HEAT. WE GOT THE SLOWING OF TOURISM IN DISNEYLAND IS I SAW THAT IN THE VIDEO. AND THAT IS BECAUSE I THINK OUR GOVERNOR HAS DONE SOME THINGS THERE. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE STATISTICS ON SLOWING DOWN EXCEPT FOR THE HEAT AND SCHOOLS ABOUT START AND YOU KNOW ÃÃI WOULD HATE TO PUT HALF $1 MILLION TOWARDS AN EVENT THAT PRETTY MUCH IS ESTABLISHED. IT'S BEEN HERE FOR EIGHT YEARS.

A LOT OF LOCALS GO TO IT. WE ARE NOT PULLING FROM OUTSIDE OUR STATE AND THAT'S THE POINT OF TOURISM DOLLARS. THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE MILLION DOLLARS OF IT WAS SET UP WHERE YOU HAVE ASKED FOR THE MONEY AFTER THE FACT WITH RECEIPT. LET'S I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY.

I'M SURE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MAYBE ÃTHIS AMATEUR HOW THEY FIT IN THIS.

>> ONLY GIVE COMMISSIONER DEAN CHANGE. I BELIEVE HE IS A QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. >> OKAY. MS. MEEKS, DID YOU WANT TO

ADDRESS ANYTHING ELSE? >> SO ÃÃCOMMISSIONER ÃÃI WILL SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF OUR SMITH TRAVEL RESEARCH DATA THAT SPEAKS TO THE DAILY RATE AND OCCUPANCY AND I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT MORE WITH YOU OFF THE RECORD. AND JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE ÃÃ WE DO PAY ACTUAL EXPENSES WITH THIS MONEY. SO IT'S NOT $1 MILLION THAT IT DOESN'T GET SPENT ÃÃIT'S JUST UNACCOUNTED FOR. WE DO PAY ÃÃIT IS UTILIZED BY

PAYING ACTUAL INVOICES. >> OKAY.ET'S CURE PUBLIC COMMENT.

BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT TAX DOLLARS THAT CANNOT BE SPENT ON ROADS AND PARKS AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE. THESE ARE PAID BY TOURISTS AND CAN ONLY BE SPENT FOR MARKETING ON THE DESTINATION. OMMISSIONER ARNOLD, PLEASE TAKE US TO PUBLIC, PICK.> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, AN AGENDA ITEM 1A.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? LET'S HAVE A MOTION IF THERE IS ONE PICK.

>> I WILL MOVE TO $500,000 CATEGORY ONE RESERVE FUNDS. FOR 1144¥0 SEPTEMBER 9, 2020.

CLOSED FOR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. 1144 Ã50 MARCH 1, 2020 TO ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 CATEGORY FOUR. RESERVE FUNDS.

1148¥9. 920. FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

1148/54 80 WANT TO BE EXPENDED FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE UPCOMING SEPTEMBER 20 23 SAYING OUT LOUD

[1. Waiver of Time Limits, pursuant to Section 9.04.05.C regarding previous applications CPA(SS) 2021-14 and PUD 2021-16 to allow a Rezoning application to Workforce Housing (WH).]

EVENT. >> SECOND POINT. >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?HESE VOTE.

SUBTEST ÃREGULAR AGENDA ITEM 1A PASSES FOR ÃONE. SO THAT TAKES US INTO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. MR. BARNETT? GOOD MORNING.

>>. >> MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

[INDISCERNIBLE] MAINSTREET. I'M HERE FOR A RAVER REQUEST.

THESE THINGS COME IN TWOS AND THREES AND I'VE HAD TWO OF THEM RECENTLY.

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I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHERS ON THE RADAR THAT I KNOW OR THINK WHY I WOULD BE REMOTELY CONSIDERED FOR THIS, BUT I DO HAVE A SECOND ONE. TO WAIVE THE ONE-YEAR LIMITATION. THIS IS ON BEHALF OF THE MILLS FAMILY.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW ÃÃTHE MATRIARCH OF THAT FAMILY WAS DIANE MILLS, WHO IS OFTEN AN ATTENDER AT PORTER COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETINGS. IT'S HER FAMILY THAT HAS MADE THIS REQUEST. JUST TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

IT WAS BEFORE YOU AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DID DENY A PROJECT ON THIS PROPERTY BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2022.T THAT TIME ÃÃTHE PROJECT WAS ACCOMPANYING TO PLAN AND A PUD.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND SO OFTEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE USE MAP WHERE IT'S FRAGMENTED ÃÃIN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ÃÃTHAT LANE USED MAP HAD DEFINED BOUNDARY OF THE LEWIS SPEEDWAY AND SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. VERY CLEARLY WAS RESIDENTIAL C.

THIS PROPERTY NORTH WAS RESIDENTIAL BE AND THAT WAS THE MAP WHEN YOU REALLY GOT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS ROUND UP IF YOU WOULD. EVERYONE WANTED TO SEE THIS PROPERTY REMAIN RESIDENTIAL B. NOT HAVE A CONFERENCE OF PLAN AMENDMENT.

THAT'S WHERE THE FIGHT WAS. AND THAT'S WHERE THE PRODUCT WAS DENIED.

IT'S PRETTY CLEAR FROM THE RECORD THAT THE APPLICATION NOW WOULD BE ONE THAT IF THE WAIVER OF ONE YEAR IS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION ÃÃYOU WOULD SEE AN APPLICATION FOR A STRAIGHT REZONING TO ENFORCE HOUSING. ND OBVIOUSLY I THINK THAT IF AN APPLICATION WAS FILED THAT WASN'T WORKFORCE HOUSING ÃÃ PRETTY MUCH NOT WITH THE OUTCOME OF THAT WOULD BE.

FOR COMING HERE TO THE COMMISSION AND ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF THE ONE-YEAR FUTURE TURNAROUND SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU ASKED FOR FOR THE WAIVER WHAT YOU GONNA DO. I THINK YOU CAN GET A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION OF IT.

HERE YOU CAN SEE IN THE MATH JUST FOR LOCATION MAPPING. WHERE LEWIS SPEEDWAY IS AND ON THE ROAD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HERE FROM WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED. AND QUIET WORKFORCE HOUSING. NOT TO STATE THE OBVIOUS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. ALL THOSE TARGET INDUSTRIES ÃÃ LOOK AT 31 MAJOR EMPLOYERS AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS IDENTIFIED 25 OF THOSE ARE WITHIN ABOUT 12 MILES. MANY OF THEM ARE LOCATED WITHIN FIVE MILES.

I THINK IN THIS LIST OF THE COUNTY DOES NOT INCLUDE RETAILERS.

AND RETAILERS WOULD INCLUDE CARD ALES AND WE'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AUTOMOBILE SALES IN THE COUNTY WITH GOOD PAYING JOBS. WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT A GOOD LOCATION AND YOU CAN SEE A GOOD GOOGLE MAP OF ALL THE EMPLOYERS AROUND THIS LOCATION AND WHERE IT'S AT AND CENTRALLY LOCATED. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT THIS CLOSE TO OUR CITY CENTER WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A NUMBER OF UNITS BUILT AND SO ÃÃTHAT'S REALLY THE REQUEST.O WAIVE THE ONE-YEAR SO THAT THE MILLS FAMILY CAN TURN AROUND AND APPLY FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING STRAIGHT REZONING ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT AND DEAR THE ISSUE HAS BEEN TO THE COUNTY.

WE'VE OBVIOUSLY SPENT HOURS AND HOURS TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND SO ÃÃWITH THAT, I WILL STOP TALKING AND WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION AND IT WOULD FIT INTO THE AMENDMENT. T WOULDN'T BE A COMP REPLANNING, IT WOULD BE A SALESFORCE HOUSING.> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FOR MR. BARNETT?

LET'S HEAR PUBLIC, PICK. >> AT THIS TIME, BUT THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

GOOD MORNING AGAIN.> GOOD MORNING AGAIN. I'M JUDY SPIEGEL AND NOVEMBER 1, 2001 GREENVILLE LANE. MR. BARNETT IS HERE AGAIN ASKING FOR A WAIVER.

AND I SUPPORTED HIS WAIVER AGAIN AND BELLA TERRA. AND I WILL KIND OF EXPLAIN MY REASONING AGAIN AND WHY I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS WAIVER. WE ARE NOT TO HEAR TO HEAR ABOUT A NEW PLAN. A WORKFORCE IS NOT IN PLAY. LET'S LOOK AT THE RECORD ON THIS PLACE. MILLS PLACEMENT BEFORE PCI WAS DENIED 4Ö TO BCC.

IN APRIL 22 WAS REMANDED TO PCANYWHERE AGAIN, IT WAS DENIED 4Ö.

BACK BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON 18 OCTOBER DENIED BOTH COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING. FOUR ÃNOTHING. SO ÃÃTHIS WAS A BUSY DAY.

FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATES THAT REPLICATION AFTER DENIAL OF ZONING WHENEVER THE BCC HAS DENIED AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING OF LAND. NO FURTHER APPLICATION SHOULD BE FILED FOR THE RE-SAME REZONING CATEGORY. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT HAS CHANGED NOW? OR ANY OR PART OF THE SAME LAND FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF SUCH ACTION.

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AND CHRISTINE MILLER SAID DURING THAT MEETING ÃÃTHAT THE COOLING OFF PERIOD.

IT'S 11 WEEKS AWAY. 11 WEEKS AWAY. WE ARE GOING TO WAIVE THE LAW FOR 11 WEEKS. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 9405C SAYS THE TIME LIMITS MAY BE WAIVED BY THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY BOARD COMMISSIONERS WHEN SUCH ACTION IS DEEMED NECESSARY TO PREVENT INJUSTICE OR FACILITATE THE PROPER DEVELOPMENT OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. OKAY. THERE IS THE INJUSTICE? I DO NOT SAY. IT SEEMED LIKE A PRETTY INCOMPATIBLE PLAN WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I WATCH THE NBCC AND I READ THROUGH THE PLAN.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS JUST NOT AN ACCESSIBLE PLAN FOR Ã NOTHING AND TURNED DOWN BY PCA TWICE. I'M SORRY. I DO NOT THINK IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE LDC TO BE ABLE TO WAIVE THIS. I DON'T SEE THE INCONVENIENCE.

I DON'T SEE THE INJUSTICE. MAYBE IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE FOR THE MOST FAMILY TO WAIT 11 WEEKS TO PUT THEM IN A NEW PLAN. BUT I DISAGREE WITH THAT PROPER DEVELOPMENT.HIS IS NOT A COMPATIBLE THING. WE HAVE GOT SO MUCH VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THIS AREA. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S FOR A LATER DATE ISN'T IT? PWHEN THIS PLAN DOES COME BACK. I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ASKED BY MR. BARNETT TO WAIVE THE ONE-YEAR WAITING PERIOD AND THEY CHOSE TO NOT VOTE ON THAT ON OCTOBER 18. PLEASE VOTE TO DENY THIS REQUEST.

IT DOES NOT MEET THE LDC REQUIREMENTS. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. >> CHAPTER 11 ASCII 748 [INDISCERNIBLE] SHE LAID OUT EVERYTHING ELSE CAN IS IT WITH.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS RATHER INTERESTING. THE PRICE GOES UP.

THE NUMBER OF UNITS GOES DOWN AND NOW THIS IS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD BEFORE THE WAIVER.

MY THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD PREVIOUSLY. IT'S RATHER INTERESTING NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY UNDER THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING TITLE.

RECOMMEND DENYING THIS WAIVER. THANK YOU.> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

SOMEBODY USED MY NAME EARLIER. [LAUGHTER] I DON'T LIKE THAT SOMETIMES. IT WAS NICE THOUGH. YOU KNOW ÃÃTHIS WORKFORCE HOUSING IS BECOMING A RACKET. I'M SORRY. IT IS ÃÃIF WE CANNOT GET WHAT WE REALLY WANT ÃÃTHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THESE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING BACK HERE AND WANT TO DEVELOP IT AND BRING UP WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO ÃÃWHICH I THINK IS PART OF THIS ANYWAY.

BUT WHEN WE USE THE WORD WORKFORCE ÃÃWE ALL NEED THAT. BUT I THINK 11 WEEKS ÃÃLET'S HELP EVERYONE TO JUST TAKE A DEEP BREATH. AND STICK WITH HOW YOU VOTED BEFORE. AND I THINK 11 WEEKS MR. BARNETT AND THE DEVELOPERS CAN COME IN AND REALLY TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. AND REALLY SHOW YOU EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO. SO I AGREE WITH THE OTHERS AND MISS SPANGLE ÃÃYOU'D BETTER WATCH HER. THAT LADY IS PREPARED. SHE'S BEEN COMING TO THESE MEETINGS. SHE MIGHT BE SITTING UP THERE ONE OF THESE DAYS.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. DON'T LOOK FOR ME UP THERE THOUGH. DON'T WORRY. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

[LAUGHTER] OKAY? THIS HAS BEEN DENIED AND LET'S STICK WITH THE PLAN. TO HELP THEM TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND DO NOT COME BACK IN HERE AND JUST START SAYING ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE OTHER MEMBERS ARE CORRECT TOO.

WE ARE. IS IT GONNA BE 260 OR 270. OR ARE GONNA GET THE 300,000? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WORKFORCE HOUSING. REALLY AND TRULY IT'S NOT.

HANKS SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY FOR THE PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE? SING ON, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> MR. BARNETT, WOULD YOU CARE TO RESPOND? >> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THERE'S A LOT OF WISDOM TO BE LEARNED FROM PCA AT TIMES. AT THE TIME, WE WENT THROUGH WITH MILLS PLAYS, DOCTOR MCCORMICK SEATED OVER HERE, WHO WAS THE SCHOOL BOARD'S REPRESENTATIVE. AND IN FACT, SUGGESTED THIS AS IS THE PROPER USE OF THE PROPERTY. AND HERE WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT TODAY.

AN ISSUE WORKFORCE HOUSING, I THINK WE CAN ALL RECOGNIZE THIS WILL BE AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR WHERE YOU WOULD PUT WORKFORCE HOUSING TO ACTUALLY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

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YOU KNOW? A LOT OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT WE ARE SEEING OF LATE IS OF NORTH COUNTY. WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY SERVE THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. AREA VERSUS COMMUTING TO JACKSONVILLE STILL.HIS IS THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECTS CLOSER TO THE CITY LIMITS.

AND AS FAR AS INJUSTICE, CAN THEY TURN AROUND AND FILE THE REZONING? THREE MONTHS FROM NOW? YES. DOES THAT PENALIZE THE MILLS FAMILY? YES. IT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE OF THE PRIOR APPLICATION CONFIDENCE PLAN AMENDMENT. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A CONFERENCE PLAN AMENDMENT BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT COMING IN AT TE DENSITY ALLOWED AT THE PLAN. NOT A RESIDENTIAL C COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.

WE SHOULD GET A CHANCE TO ÃÃ THEY SHOULD GET A CHANCE TO APPLY FOR THE REZONING AGAIN AND BE A STRAIGHT REZONING WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THAT'S HOW IT WILL BE APPLIED FOR.

IT WILL NOT BE A PUD OR PLANNED EARLY DEVELOPMENT. WITH THAT ÃÃI'D BE QUITE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.> THANK YOU MR. BARNETT.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> THIS IS DISTRICT 5. SO ÃÃI TOOK PARTICULAR INTEREST IN THIS LAST OCTOBER. COMMISSIONERS MADE THE MOTION TO DENY THE PASSPORT ZERO.

I'VE BEEN VERY RELUCTANT TO VOTE TO APPROVE WAIVERS OF TIME LIMITS AND WE HAD SEVERAL IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS THAT HAVE BEEN REJECTED.UT I HAVE A QUESTION THAT MAY LEAD TO MY UNDERSTANDING AND ALSO WHAT WOULD WEIGH IN MY DECISION. DOUG, YOU GOT A COPY OF YOUR

JUNE 13 LETTER IN FRONT OF YOU? FROM CHAIRMAN WHITEHURST? >> YES SIR.

>> OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT PARAGRAPH TWO. I THINK YOU DISCOVERED THIS IN YOUR REBUTTAL. AS I UNDERSTAND IT ÃÃTHIS WOULD SIMPLY BE A REZONING TO SUPPORT WHAT IS RESIDENTIAL B. OR RESIDENTIAL B IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

NOT C. >> CORRECT. >> NOT GET INTO THE WEEDS ON WHAT MIGHT BE COMING IN FRONT OF US IF WE APPROVE THE WAIVER. BUT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. MAKING A DECISION. ALL I WANT TO DO TODAY IS MAKE A MOTION. AFTER THE COMMENTS ARE MADE. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WAIVER. AND THEN MOM DOING THAT IS BASED ON TWO FACTS.

THIS RESULTS ARE WHAT I CONSIDER A CHANGE TO THE BETTER AND NUMBER TWO.

I AM IN NO WAY TODAY SIGNALING AND APPROVAL FROM THIS AMENDMENT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US FOR CONSIDERATION AFTER GOES TO THE PCA. THAT'S WHERE I AM THIS MORNING.

SO ÃÃI'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION FOLLOWING ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> I APPRECIATE YOUR FORTITUDE. BUT I AM GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO THAT THERE IS A RULE FOR PURPOSE AND REASON.ORRY.

>> FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH ÃÃI DO THINK THAT YOU CAN WAIT 11 WEEKS.

THE APPLICATION AND GET THE FULL CONSIDERATION OF THE BOARD AND NOBODY WOULD BE HEARD.

I AM TO VOTE AGAINST IT. NO DISRESPECT INTENDED TO ANYBODY.

THAT'S HOW I FEEL. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> I WILL SIMPLY MOVE TO APPROVE THE WAIVER OF TIME LIMITS AND PERSONAL LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 940 POINT 04 POINT C.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND.> WE HAVE A

[2. Public Hearing * CDD AMD 2023-01 Entrada CDD.]

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT PASSES 3Ö. CONGRATULATIONS MR. BARNETT. ALL RIGHT.

SO, WE'RE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. WHICH IS C ÃÃWE'RE GONNA TRY CDD. GOOD MORNING. ALL OF YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KATIE BUCHANAN AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ENTRADA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THIS DISTRICT HAS HAD A COUPLE OF REQUESTS BEFORE YOU IN RECENT YEARS AND TODAY WE ARE HERE TO EVALUATE AND HOPEFULLY APPROVE A BOUNDARY AMENDMENT ADDING ADDITIONAL LANES TO THE DISTRICT'S BOUNDARIES.

SO ÃÃINITIALLY, THE DISTRICT WAS APPROVED BY ORDINANCE 2020. 42 AND THEN WAS AMENDED IN 2021 TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANES TO THE DISTRICT'S BOUNDARIES. WE WILL GO THROUGH THESE DETAILS IN THE ESTABLISHMENT PROCESS AMENDMENT PROCESS AND THEN THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU

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TODAY. ULTIMATELY ÃÃI THINK THIS GRAPHIC IS THE MOST HELPFUL TO THE DISTRICT'S REQUEST.HEN YOU LOOK, YOU SEE THE LANDS IN YELLOW YELLOW OF THE DISTRICT'S CURRENT BOUNDARIES AND THIS IS WHAT WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED AND THEN ADDED ONTO AND 2021.

WHAT THE DISTRICT WOULD LIKE TO ADD HERE TODAY ARE THE AREAS IDENTIFIED IN PINK.ND THEN THE FEATURED EXPANSION PARCELS ARE STILL OUT ON THE EDGE OF MEETING THE DEVELOPERS STILL INVESTIGATING WHETHER THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THEM AND ULTIMATELY ADD THEM TO THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES. IF THE TODAY'S BOUNDARY AMENDMENT WORK ORDER COME TO FRUITION, AMENDMENT WOULD BE 334 ACRES APPROXIMATELY. SO ÃÃTHIS PARTICULAR PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT NOT TO BOTH OUR FIRM AND DOES THE COUNTY. ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT WHEN THE DISTRICT'S INITIAL BOUNDARIES WERE APPROVED ÃÃTHE POTENTIAL EXPANSION PORTRAITS IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS ÃTHAT'S WHAT IT DOES IS ALLOW FOR ABBREVIATE TO REVIEW THIS PROCESS AT THIS POINT ASSUMING THE DISTRICT COMPLIES WITH THE FACTORS IDENTIFIED AS A THROUGH F. THEN THIS WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY APPROVED UNDER YOUR INITIAL AUTHORIZATION AS WELL. SO ÃÃDISTRICT STAFF HAS WORKED WITH COUNTY STAFF TO SUBMIT A PETITION THE COUNTY'S REPORT DID IDENTIFY THE DISTRICT'S PETITION IS LEGALLY SUFFICIENT. I WILL ALSO POINT TO THE ORIGINAL FACTORS IN THE ESTABLISHMENT AND NOTE THE ADDITIONAL LANDS ALLOW THESE FACTORS TO STILL REMAIN IN THE POSITIVE. MEETING THE DISTRICT WOULD STILL COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 19 REQUIREMENT. IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WILL REMEMBER IS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO NOTE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS 14 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING. WE HAD AN ISSUE BASED ON OUR INITIAL SCHEDULING DATE AND WE CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN SOLD TO END-USERS.

SO ÃTHIS WOULD PULL THE MATTER NATURE THAT EVERYBODY GOT THE NATURE NOTICE BASED ON THE SALES REPORT FROM DR HORTON AND THEN SENT THEM A LETTER. IDENTIFYING THE HEARING DATES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE PROPERLY. I HAD A CALL AND I KNOW THE COUNTIES HAD CALLS.O I DO BELIEVE THOSE WERE RECIPIENTS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WE MAY HAVE SOME HERE TODAY.

[LAUGHTER] OTHERWISE ÃÃALL THE STATUTORY CRITERIA WERE MET FOR COUNTY APPROVAL. SO WITH THAT, WE JUST REQUEST TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE.PY

>> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT MATTER, WHICH A PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SING ON WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> COMMISSIONER ORLANDO?

>> YES, WE HAD TO OFFER A MOTION UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

PLEASE DO. >> WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023-

>> 27. >> CDT 2023-01 EXPANDING THE CDD BOUNDARIES BASED ON THE

FINDINGS OF FACT. >> OKAY, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ORLANDO.

WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.> SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> AT THE ONLY, I HAVE LIKE TO MAKE AS I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT HAVING A CCD IS TOO MANY AMENITIES AND KIND OF HELPS THE COUNTY.

BUT OVERALL ÃÃI AM ÃÃI'M STILL IN FAVOR OF THIS. BUT OVERALL, IT DOES TAKE THE FREEDOM AWAY FROM THE HOMEOWNERS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.

AND I HATE DOING THAT TO THEM. BUT I COULD SEE THE BENEFIT. THANK YOU.

[3. Public Hearing * REZ 2023-03 Elkton Center.]

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. MS. MCQUINN, ANYTHING ELSE TO

ADD? >> MANY THANKS. >> OKAY, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER

DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. >> ITEM 2 PASSES 5Ä. CONGRATULATIONS.

THAT TAKES US INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS A CAUSE OF JUDICIAL FOR X APARTHEID

DISCLOSURE. I'M GONNA GO TO MR. ORLANDO. >> YES, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM KAREN TAYLOR ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 26. 2023.

DISCUSSING THE PROJECT. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> LIKEWISE, I RECEIVED AN

EMAIL ON JULY 26 FROM KAREN TAYLOR. >> I TOO RECEIVED AN EMAIL.

JULY 26 ASKING LAYING OUT THE PROJECT AND ASKING ME IF I AT ANY QUESTIONS AND I DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AT THIS TIME. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> THANK YOU MR. CHOPRA I ALSO RECEIVED THE SAME EMAIL FROM KAREN TAYLOR ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 26 DISCUSSING THE PROJECT ASKING IF I'D ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AT THIS TIME AND I DID

NOT.> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> I WILL SECOND THAT PRINT EXACTLY AN EMAIL FROM KAREN

TAYLOR WEDNESDAY, JULY 26, 2023. >> MS. TAYLOR, WILL RECEIVE

YOUR EMAIL! [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S WONDERFUL! [LAUGHTER] I FIGURED ON SOME THINGS IT'S GOOD TO ME, BUT SOME THINGS MAYBE WE DO NOT NEED TO.

THAT'S HOW I FEEL. GOOD MORNING, KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET.

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I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF ALAN SIMPSON. THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY.

HE IS UNABLE TO BE WITH US TODAY. SO ÃÃHE JUST GOT ME.

THIS IS THE ULTIMATE CENTER REZONING. TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY THREE. TWO COMMERCIAL RURAL.

JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THESE PRETTY FAST. YOU GUYS MAY KNOW WHERE THESE ARE ÃÃBUT THIS LITTLE ELKTON AREA ÃÃIT'S JUST KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S THE COMMERCIAL HUB OF THIS PARTICULAR LITTLE AREA. SO IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF 207 AND SOUTH OF SAINT AMBROSE CHURCH ROAD. NORTH OF 207 AND YOU CAN SEE 305 COMES THROUGH. GET A LITTLE CLOSER, YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE ELKTON AREA.

EFINITELY. SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. AND THEN KIND OF GETTING IN CLOSER ÃJESSICA SHOWS YOU HOW IT RELATES TO 207 AND TWO SAINT AMBROSE CHURCH ROAD AND TO THE SMALL ROADS THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TWO. WHICH WOULD BE ROSE STREET IN OAK STREET AND THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ALL STREET THAT WOULD GO BEHIND HERE. THAT IS NOT OPENED.

THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE. IT SHOWS THAT MOST OF IT IS RURAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE.

THE ONLY PIECE THAT IS NOT IS THE LAND USE DISTRICT THAT IS KIND OF IN THAT.

THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND SOME EVEN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA IS ALL IN AGATE. AND THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU THAT THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THERE. IT'S MOSTLY AGRICULTURAL. THAT'S AROUND HERE.

AND THIS IS THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. AND THE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ELKTON AREA AND EVEN THOUGH THE LAND USES WERE COMMERCIAL ÃÃB ÃÃTHERE IS ONLY SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL RURAL ZONING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. THAT MAKES IT CHALLENGE WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT USES YOU ARE ALLOWED BECAUSE WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE LAND USE IS NOT NECESSARILY THE ZONING. AND THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU THAT SAME RELATIONSHIP THERE. HOOPS. SO ÃÃANYWAY ÃÃTHAT NORTHSIDE THAT'S IN THAT LITTLE TOWN. AND JUST WEST OF THE INTERSECTION WITH THROUGH FIVE. IT IS 0.76 ACRES. AND I APOLOGIZE.

I DID NOT FIX THIS ÃÃBUT I HAD THE PROPERTY IS 95 BY 165 IS ACTUALLY 125 BY 265.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE I CAME UP WITH THAT. I APOLOGIZE.

BUT THAT IS THE.76. SO IT'S CURRENTLY ON OFFICE. WHICH WAS A REMODELED HOME FROM A LONG TIME AGO. IT WAS USED FOR A VET CLINIC INTO THE INERRANT BOOK THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT. AND THEN IT WAS THEN THE ACUPUNCTURE OFFICE FOR HIS WIFE THAT WENT NEXT DOOR TO IT. SO ÃÃIT HAS THOSE TWO LOTS ON THE FRONTAGE AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL. AND TWO LOTS ON THE BACK THAT ARE OPEN LOTS.HAT ARE ZONED. THE RS THREE. AGAIN, MOSTLY UNDER THE RURAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE ÃÃYOU ONLY GET COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING USES.

SO ÃÃIT SEEMS BETTER TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. INSTEAD OF JUST LEAVING THE CG ON THE FRONT. SO AGAIN LAND USE UNDER COMMERCIAL ÃÃOR JUST THOSE FOR YOUR WORLD COMMUNITIES LIKE GENERAL STORES AND ROADSIDE STANDS AND NURSERIES AND RESTAURANTS. AND WATCHING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO ÃÃTHOSE ARE THE USE CATEGORIES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THAT.ND AGAIN, THEN THAT MIMICS AND MATCHES THE FUTURE LAND USE. JUST SOME PICTURES ÃÃLOOKING SOUTH ALONG 207. KIND OF JUST IN THAT ÃÃTHE CURRENT BUT OFFICE.

THAT IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE AS IT EXISTS. AND ALONG 207.

IN THE LOOKING NORTH AT THE INTERSECTION FOR 305. SO ÃÃYOU FEEL THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE. IT RESOLVES THE CONFLICT AND THE DIFFERENT ZONING WITH THE LAND USE. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. IT ALLOWS THE SAME KIND OF USES THAT EXIST ALONG THAT FRONT EDGE RIGHT NOW. THERE WERE SOME INITIAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE ALL ALL OF STREET IN OPENING ALL OF STREET.

IT'S AN UNOPENED ROAD AND IT'S IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT TO OPEN IT.

SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE CHANCE OF THAT HAPPENING. CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMP PLAN. AGAIN ÃÃCONSISTED OF THE AREA AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE USES. PCA DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TAYLOR? >> MAN VICE CHAIR, A TEAR PUBLIC, PROGRESS AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. SINGING ON, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. QUESTIONS?

>> I'M HERE TO MAKE A MOTION MR. CHOPRA. >> YES?

>> INACT ORDINANCE 2023 Ã REZONING 2023 ÃELKTON CENTER BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT

[4. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2023-09 at 285 Puebla Road.]

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF BOARD. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 5Ä. CONGRATULATIONS. >> SO THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS ALSO CLOSE OF JUDICIAL SHOOTER JOSEPH ÃÃYOUR EX PARTAKE?

>> NOT MEETING. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> MR. CHAIR, NO MEETING AS WELL. HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY MEETING. MR. DEAN?> NONE.

>> FORGIVE ME, I NEED TO AMEND MY EX PARTAKE. I'D TWO EMAILS PROPOSING THIS

NINE ZONING VARIANCE. >> I BELIEVE I DO AS WELL. >> THE SAME TWO EMAILS?

>> YES. >> I DID TOO. I JUST REALIZED THAT.

>> IT OCCURRED TO ME AS I SAID ON THE RECORD. >> THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU JUST

REMINDED ME HOW I ALSO GOT YOUR EMAIL. >> OKAY.

WHAT'S -5 EMAIL PER. >> RECEIVED A COUPLE OF EMAILS AS WELL AND I DID A SITE VISIT.

ASK AND YOU DID A SITE VISIT. >> WELL DONE. >> WE ARE READY TO HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I'VE NOT DONE AN EXPORT A DISCLOSURE.

MR. BENNETT? >> GOOD MORNING SIR. >>.

>> ADVISOR. SO ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I'M RICHARD BENNETT, LIMIT 285 ALONG WITH MY WIFE.

[INDISCERNIBLE]

>> MR. BENNETT, I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN CAPTURE

THE RECORD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >> 285 MILL ROAD.

IS IT MYSELF, MY WIFE AND I LIVED THERE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW. AND WE BUILD A LATERAL EXTENSION ELEVATED TO THE EXISTING HOUSE. THIS VARIANCE IS ONLY FOR THE EXISTING HOUSE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE JUST TALK ABOUT THE PICTURE. SO THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1989 AND IT'S A 60 INCH CONCRETE BLOCK CONSTRUCTION ON A CONCRETE SLAB.HAT EXPORT IS .2 FEET BELOW AND A FREEBOARD REQUIRED TO BE REQUIRED CONSTRUCTION.

TO IS .4 INCHES BELOW WHERE THE PREFERRED LEVEL WILL BE. IT'S CURRENTLY FLOOD RESISTANT.

IT'S NEVER FLOODED THROUGH ALL THE HURRICANES. IT'S VERY EASY TO PROTECT AGAINST FLOODWATER. WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN NECESSARY. IT HAS FRENCH DOORS.

WE CAN ADD SANDBAGS IF NECESSARY. IT'S VERY FLOOD TOLERANT.

IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION. THE LATERAL ADDITION AS I SAID IS AN ELEVATED LATERAL ADDITION. ALMOST 16 FEET ABOVE FLOOD LEVEL.

NO MODIFICATIONS TO THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. THERE IS A TEST TEST WE WIDENED A DOORWAY ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO BRIDGE BETWEEN THE TWO. OTHER THAN THAT, NO STRUCTURAL MODIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER. TO THE EXISTING TEST Ã ESPECIALLY THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL. WHAT'S EXPOSED TO FLOODING COULD BE EXPOSED TO FLOODING.

THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS. IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF ANESTHESIA ISLAND AND TREASURE BEACH.WE GOT THE OCEAN TO THE EAST.

YOU GOT THE INTERCOASTAL TO THE WEST. THE VARIANCES IS A REQUEST TO NOT ADD FLOOD BANNERS TO THE EXISTING PROPERTY. FLOOD VENTS ALLOW WATER TO INGRESS AND EGRESS TO AVOID FOUNDATION DAMAGE SUCH AS WHAT YOU SAW ON THE LLANO BEACH.

THIS PROPERTY IS PROTECTED ON ALL SIDES WHETHER IT'S BY THE DUNES ON THESE WERE THE INTERCOASTAL ON THE WEST. YOU GOT PROPERTIES ALL AROUND US.

WE DON'T GET WAVE ACTION. AND WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT THROUGH MATTHEW, IRMA, DORIAN, IAN, NICOLE, WATER SIMPLY RISES AND GOES BACK DOWN AGAIN. THERE IS NO WAVE ACTION.

SO THERE'S NO BENEFIT OF FLOOD VENTS IN THIS LOCATION. TO SUMMARIZE ÃÃAGAIN, THE

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REQUEST IS TO NOT ADD ANY FLOOD BANNERS TO THE EXISTING PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1989. TO ADD FLOOD VENTS WOULD ALLOW PQUARTER ENTRY IN TO WHAT IS ALREADY A PROTECTED BUILDING. HAT IS THE DESIGN. IS TO EASILY ALLOW WATER ENTRY AND EXIT. IF I WAS TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD INCREASE MY INSURANCE RISK.

EXPOSURE. INCLUDING AN INCREASING THE RISK OF DAMAGE TO THE SHOULD THERE EVER BE A FLOOD. CANNOT DO SANDBAGGING TO PROTECT AGAINST WATER DAMAGE.

ALL IT DOES IS MAKE THE WHOLE SITUATION WORSE AND IT CURRENTLY IS.

I WOULD HAVE TO CUT THROUGH CONCRETE BLOCK WALLING. SO WE WOULD BE COMPROMISING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE BY DOING THAT. IT'S A FULLY FINISHED FIRMLY INSULATED AIR-CONDITIONED ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW. FLOOD VENTS BELOW THE ALL THAT OUT OF THE WATER. IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE WALL. SO I USE THERMAL PROTECTION, THERMAL INTEGRITY, ETC. ETC. ALSO ÃÃTHEY OPEN EASILY. SO I AM EXPOSED TO INSECTS.

BERMAN, WHATEVER COMING INTO THE ENVIRONMENT. SO ÃÃIN SUMMARY ÃÃTO ADD FLOOD VENTS TO AN EXISTING BUILDING, THIS NEVER HAD AN ISSUE, WHETHER IT BE FLOODING OR RUNNING OR ANY OF THESE ISSUES. IT'S SIMPLY DETRIMENTAL TO ITS CURRENT CONDITION. I WANT TO PROTECT MY HOUSE AS BEST I CAN.

IF I THOUGHT THERE WAS A BENEFIT ÃÃI WOULD BE DOING IT TOMORROW.

BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S A DETRIMENT. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2.4 INCHES. 2.4 INCHES. IT'S NOTHING.

AND IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE PROPERTIES. ANY NEIGHBORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO ÃÃTHAT IS WHAT THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR.

TO LEAVE IT AS IT WAS. IN 1989. >> OKAY, THANK YOU MR. BENNETT.

WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENNETT ON THE BOARD? ART MET A VICE CHAIR, LET'S

HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

>> AM AFRAID I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION UP HERE. BUT EVERYTHING THAT I STATE IS PUT IN THE RECORDS IN THE BUILDING PERMITTING RECORDS AND INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT'S ALL VERIFIABLE. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME

AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? >> NIKKI HUDNALL.

SORRY. I LIVE AT 237 PABLO ROAD. RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE BENNETT'S. UNDERSTAND THAT FOR MR. BENNETT ÃÃIT WOULD BE OFFICIAL TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN.

I'M CONCERNED THAT VARIANCE SETS PRESIDENTS FOR MORE VARIANCES DOWN THE LINE.

WE KNOW THAT. WE ARE REALLY NOT THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

WE KNOW THAT OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT HAS EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN.

CURRENTLY ÃÃWE HAVE A 25 PERCENT DISCOUNT ON OUR FLOOD INSURANCE.

BECAUSE WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS AND IF WE PASS THIS VARIANCE Ã ÃFEMA CAN LOOK AT US AS NOT BEING GOOD STEWARDS. OF KEEPING THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS.

WE HAVE FLOODED BEFORE. NOW MR. BENNETT WAS NOTIFIED IN JUNE 29 OF 2020.

THREE YEARS.OVER THREE YEARS. THAT HE NEEDED THESE FLOOD VENTS.

THIS IS AND HE DID A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN HIS PROPERTY, WHICH MADE IT WHERE HE HAS TO BRING EVERYTHING OLD AND NEW UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS.

THAT IS THE LAW. SO YES ÃÃIT'S AN OLD BUILDING.

YES, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS. BECAUSE OF THESE SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS ÃÃSHE HAD TO COME TO CURRENT CODE. SO ÃTHIS BASICALLY CLEAR SIGN WE DO NOT NEED YOU TO COME TO CURRENT CODE BECAUSE YOU'RE 30 YEARS OLD AND YOU JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND ARTIE PAY ENOUGH.

ON THE WATER. I PAY ENOUGH. FOR FLOOD INSURANCE.

I CANNOT AFFORD TO KEEP PAYING. WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

IT'S MY HOMETOWN. I'M GETTING TEXT OUT. I'M GETTING INSURANCE OUT.

GETTING PUSHED OUT.IKE ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS. HE WAS TOLD AGAIN ÃÃTHREE YEARS AGO THAT THERE IS ALSO BEEN OTHER CHANGES JUST AS HE TRIED TO FAKE AFTER THE INSPECTORS BY CLUING THE EVENT ON THE WALL. THAT IS IN YOUR REPORT.

INSPECTOR CAUGHT HIM. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A UTILITY ROOM ONLY THAT WAS ON THE PLANS. THE INSPECTORS CAUGHT THAT IT WAS A LIVING UNIT.

IT'S AN APARTMENT UNIT. WE ARE LOOKING AT A FUTURE MULTI-APARTMENT LIVING COMPLEX

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BECAUSE WE AN APARTMENT DOWNSTAIRS, WITH AN APARTMENT UPSTAIRS AND THEN WE HAVE A HOME THAT IS THE NEW STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT. THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BECOME THREE APARTMENTS. THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING. SO ALL THESE THINGS ONE CAN BE TOGETHER. MR. BENNETT IS A VERY PLEASANT MAN.

I MEAN NO ILL WILL.UT WHAT ARE HIS FUTURE PLANS? HIS CURRENT STATUS IS THAT HE

IS LIVING IN MULTIPLE PLACES AND HAS DONE MULTIPLE HOMES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR? SING DOWN, WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER LAME OUT ÃÃ DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENNETT?

>> I DID NOT. IS HE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP?

>> I DID WANT TO OFFER HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND IF HE DOES WISH TO DO SO.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, THE NUMBER OF POINTS THAT WERE MADE THERE. SOME OF WHICH ARE I'M NOT SURE THEY ARE RELEVANT.

NONETHELESS, DOES NOT MATTER. WHEN IT COMES TO VARIANCE Ã THIS EVERYBODY IS ALLOWED TO PRESENT THE VARIANCE. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT WE PASS THIS OR NOT.

FEMA ALLOWS THE VARIANCE FOR FLUTTERING TEST IF THE COUNTY ALLOWS VARIANCE.

SO NOTHING WILL CHANGE WITH REGARD TO VARIANCE WHETHER YOU ALLOW THIS ONE CANNOT.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION ÃÃIF IT'S CORRECT ÃÃI WAS ADVISED BY THE COUNCIL THAT I NEEDED TO PUT FLOOD VENTS IN. SINCE THAT TIME OVER THE THREE-YEAR PERIOD ÃÃI'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON WHAT THE FEMA REQUIREMENTS ARE.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE FLOOD EVENT ÃÃHOW DOES IT BENEFIT? AND I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT FOR MY SITUATION ÃTHIS FLOOD VENTS SIMPLY DO NOT BENEFIT. IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THERE IS NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER HAVING FLOOD VENTS. IT SIMPLY MAKES THE SITUATION WORSE. WITH REGARD TO AN APARTMENT ÃÃ I'VE NO IDEA WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.T'S ALWAYS BEEN FINISHED. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FINISHED SPACE. FROM THE BEGINNING ÃÃSHORT Ã ÃIT'S ON THE PLANS AS UTILITY ROOM BECAUSE IT HAS THE WASHER, DRYER, THE HOT WATER HEATER. IT'S GOT THE SINK, TO THE BATHROOM. SO ÃÃWHETHER I PUT A BED IN THERE TO SLEEP FOR SOME FURNITURE ÃÃIT DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING WITH REGARDS TO THE LIVABLE SPACE.

THE LIVABLE SPACE HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THE DATE WE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE.

SO ÃÃI THINK THAT IS JUST ENOUGH ÃÃTHAT IS JUST A DISTRACTION.

THE FACT REMAINS THAT IT'S THE FINISHED SPACE AND AIR-CONDITIONED, ALWAYS HAS BEEN. INSULATED ÃÃALWAYS HAS BEEN. AND WE TALK ABOUT TWO INCHES.

AND BY THE WE PUT VENTS IN PORT NOT VENTS HAS NO IMPACT AND OUR NEIGHBORS.

WHEN IT'S REGARD TO FLOODING. >> THANK YOU MR. BENNETT. I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU JUST STAY CLOSE AND ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

HE WOULD NOT MIND. >> SURE. >> COMMISSIONER LAME OUT, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IS LEARNING PROGRESS 70

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> UK COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

ONE FOR CHRISTINE. WITH THAT SENT A PRESIDENT? >> CHRISTINE, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY INDISCERNIBLE] EACH IS ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA ÃÃYOU ARE REQUIRED TO CONSIDER. IT DOES SET A PRESIDENT THAT THE NEIGHBOR OR OTHER PERSON IS AUTOMATICALLY GUARANTEED IF WE HAVE A SIMILAR VARIANCE REQUEST.

>> LIKE AN INSURANCE COMPANY? WOULD IT AFFECT YOUR INSURANCE OF EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE

COMMUNITY? >> THAT IS UNCLEAR. I KNOW THAT SARAH PEREZ, THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGER HAS HAD CONVERSATION AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE STATE FLOODPLAIN PROGRAM AS WELL AS WITH THE FEDERAL FLOODPLAIN PROGRAM AND MAY BE BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER

THE QUESTION. >> IS SHE HERE? >> I BELIEVE SO ÃÃYES.>> GOOD MORNING. SARAH PEREZ, MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY.

>> GOOD MORNING. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

>> SO ÃÃIS FORCED INTO YOUR QUESTION. WHEN IN FACT OUR OVERALL INSURANCE. WE HAVE A CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO MEET AS A COMMUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. TO GET A DISCOUNT. SO ÃÃACCORDING TO THE SPECIALISTS, SOPHIE WHO DOES OUR AUDITS YEARLY AUDITS, WE ARE CLASSIFIED.

IF 90 PERCENT OF YOUR PERMITTING RECORDS SHOW AND FORCE ÃÃWE RECEIVE ONLY 90 PERCENT OF THE CREDIT AVAILABLE FOR THAT SPECIFIC ACTIVITY. SO ÃÃFOR EXAMPLE ÃÃTHE

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ACTIVITY FOR 30 FREEBOARD CREDIT, IN ORDER FOR US TO KEEP OUR CREDIT AND THAT ELEMENT ÃÃ 80 PERCENT OR 90 PERCENT OF THE PERMITTING RECORDS THAT WE LOOK AT MUST SHOW THAT YOU ENFORCED YOUR FREEBOARD LEVELS. INCREASING VARIANCES ARE APPROVED AND DECREASED IN OUR

OVERALL CREDIT. >> CAN I MAKE A POINT?>> NOT AT THIS TIME.

SIR, I'M SORRY. WE ARE ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE JUST A COMMENT TO MAKE. MR. BENNETT, I AM CONCERNED THAT YOU MENTIONED MATTHEW ALL PTHE WAY THROUGH NICOLE. WHICH WE SAW THIS LAST YEAR.

ONE OF THIS WERE DIRECT HIT. AND I PRAY THAT WE ARE NEVER HIT.

BUT STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, IT'S INEVITABLE AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AS YOUR HOME IS RIGHT ON THE CANAL.IF WE HAD A DIRECT HIT.

AND I HOPE IT'S MANY, MANY YEARS FROM NOW. ACTUALLY HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS.

BUT IF AND WHEN WE DO GET A DIRECT HIT FROM A STORM ÃÃI THINK YOU WOULD SEE FLOODING CLICK YOU HAVE NOT SEEN FROM THE STORMS FROM MATTHEW THROUGH NICOLE AND THE ONE WE JUST HAD THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS I JUST WANTED TO VOICE AS IT RELATES NOT ONLY TO THE INSURANCE, BUT JUST TO THE OVERALL DESTRUCTION OF THE COMMUNITY COULD BE AFFECTED BY

NOT ADHERING TO THESE CODES. COMMISSIONER LAME OUT? >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND I ECHO YOUR COMMENTS BUT I HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS. I HOPE WE DON'T GET ANOTHER ONE. AND I APPRECIATE YOU MR. BENNETT AND I DID DO A SITE VISIT. YOU'RE VERY BEAUTIFUL HOME THERE.

I SHARE THE CONCERNS OF THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT CONCERNS THAT THEY PUT IN HERE. OUR RATING THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAMS.HE VARIANCE COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE PROPERTY INSURANCE PREMIUMS.ND SO ÃÃTHE HAVE A SPACE COULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS WITH THE COMMENTS THERE. I JUST CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VARIANCE.

SO ÃÃWITH THAT, I WOULD OFFER A MOTION TO DENY THE NON-ZONING VARIANCE OF 285 PROBLO ROAD WITH REQUEST FOR AN UNCERTAIN VARIANCE TO SECTION 3.03.07 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW THE SBC ARE 322.21 DESIGN FLOOD ELEVATION OR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF ONE FOOT PLUS BASE ELEVATION TO BE GRADED AND REDUCED 2.4 INCHES TO ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT OF FLOOD VENTS WITH THE CAPITOL AREA OF FIRST FLOOR SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITH A SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA EA BASED SPECIAL [INDISCERNIBLE]

[5. First Reading of Proposed Amendments to St. Johns County Ordinance No. 2009- 43, the St. Johns County Prohibited Holiday Activity Ordinance for Sexual Offenders and Sexual Predators.]

>> SECOND.> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LEHMAN TO DENY A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? PLEASE VOTE.

PARTS OF THE MOTION TO DENY PASSES 5Ä. OKAY, THANK YOU ALL.

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MR. BILL TICE?

GOOD MORNING SIR. WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR.

BRADLEY WILL TICE. SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

I'M HERE TODAY PRESENTING SOME CLOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE ANTI-SEX OFFENDER HOLIDAY ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE FROM 2009. THE BOARD AUTHORIZED OUR OFFICE TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS AT JUNE 20 MEETING. AS THE SPORT I'M SURE IS AWARE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SEX OFFENDERS AND SEXUAL PREDATORS ARE REQUIRED TO REGISTER AT THEIR LOCAL SHERIFF'S OFFICE AFTER CERTAIN CRITERIA LIKE BEING RELEASED FROM CUSTODY OR ESTABLISHING RESIDENCY AS WELL AS UPDATING THAT INFORMATION WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SINCE 2009, THE COUNTY HAS HAD AN ORDINANCE THAT MADE IT UNLAWFUL FOR THOSE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS AND SEXUAL PREDATORS TO PARTICIPATE IN HOLIDAY EVENTS THAT INCLUDED CHILDREN UNDER 18. GIVING WAY CANDY OR WEARING COSTUMES OR INTERACTING WITH CHILDREN. THERE'S AN EXISTING ORDINANCE THAT THE EVENT IS LIMITED TO JUST THE CHILDREN OF THE SEX OFFENDER OR SEXUAL PREDATOR ÃÃ NOT TO INCLUDE NONCOMMITTAL NON-FAMILIAL CHILDREN. WE ARE MOVING A LITTLE TOO QUICKLY.

THERE IS ALSO SPECIFICALLY PROVISIONS RELATED TO HOLLOWING TO INCLUDE OR PROHIBIT THE SEX OFFENDER OR PREDATOR FROM PARTICIPATING IN ANY HALLOWEEN RELATED EVENT REQUIRING DESIGNED TO BE POSTED AT THE RESIDENCE STATING THAT THERE IS NO CANDY REST TREATS AT THE RESIDENCE. REQUIRING ALL LIGHTS TO BE OFF ON THAT DAY AFTER 5 PM.

AND TO HAVE NO EXCUSE OR DECORATIONS AND THAT MIGHT ENTICE OR INTERACT WITH CHILDREN. WE ARE PROPOSING TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE

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ORDINANCE AND TO ADD ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS WITH A GOAL OF MINIMIZING AND PREVENTING THE ATTACKS ON CHILDREN. THAT MIGHT RESULT FROM ATTRACTION OR ENTICEMENT OF CHILDREN TO VULNERABLE AREAS. AND THEN JUST FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE ORDINANCE BY REMOVING CERTAIN PROVISIONS FROM THE ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT OPEN IT UP TO CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE. WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT MORE IN A MOMENT.

SO ÃÃHERE ARE SOME OF THE SPECIFIC CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THIS ORDINANCE BUT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A SPECIFIC DEFINITION FOR NONFAMILIAL CHILDREN, WHICH WOULD BE PRUDENT THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT HAVE AND WE WILL SEE DISPLAYED ABOVE AS WELL AS A SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF THE WORD PRACTICE BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE REFERS TO PROHIBITING PARTICIPATION AND HOLIDAY PRACTICES AND EVENTS. SO ARE INCLUDING THE DEFINITION AS WELL.EVISING SOME OF THE EXISTING DEFINITIONS. SO I'VE UNDERLINED THE PROVISIONS FOR THE DEFINITION OF SEXUAL OFFENDER OR SEXUAL PREDATOR THAT ARE ADDED IN THIS NEW PROPOSED AMENDMENT. SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR OFFENDERS AND PREDATORS THAT ARE REGISTERED. BUT ALSO IF THEY ARE NOT REGISTERED BUT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. THEY ARE COVERED BY THIS DEFINITION.

THIS REVISED DEFINITION.ND THEN REVISING THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD PARTICIPATION TO BE A LITTLE BROADER TO ATTENDING TAKING PART IN OR COOPERATING WITH THE ORGANIZATION OF AN EVENT. SO SUBSTANTIVE TOTALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE BROADENING THAT GENERAL PROHIBITION AND TAKING IT I THINK MORE CLEAR ON WHAT IS PROHIBITED UNDER THE ORDINANCE. SO IT'S UNLAWFUL FOR ANY SEXUAL OFFENDER OR SEXUAL PREDATOR TO PARTICIPATE IN OR ANY PRACTICE OR TREATMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE EVENT RELATED TO A NATIONAL OR LOCALLY RECOGNIZED HOLIDAY. IF SUCH PRACTICE OR EVENT IS PRIMARILY TARGETED TOWARDS NONFAMILIAL CHILDREN. THAT'S A MOUTHFUL ÃÃBUT I THINK THE EXAMPLES I PROVIDED ARE PROVIDED BY COMMON SENSE. I THINK THINGS LIKE TRUNK RETREAT WHICH I THINK WE FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FOUR CHILDREN.

NONFAMILIAL CHILDREN TO THE SEX OFFENDERS THAT WOULD BE THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN. EASTER EGGROLLS. AND THEN ÃÃJUST TO HIGHLIGHT ÃÃIT SAYS INCLUDED, BUT NOT LIMITED TO HOLIDAY EVENTS. SO ÃÃTHIS IS ANY PRACTICE OR EVENT THAT IS PRIMARILY TARGETED TOWARDS NONFAMILIAL CHILDREN.

SO I BELIEVE THAT WOULD ALSO LEAVE THINGS LIKE A SCHOOL FIELD DAY.

OR SOME OTHER ACTIVITY THAT AGAIN IS FOCUSED ON CHILDREN THAT ARE NONFAMILIAL TO THE SEX OFFENDER. THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

SO ÃÃTHAT IS THE CHANGES TO THE GENERAL PROHIBITION THERE. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE MADE SOME MORE FOCUS CHANGED ON THE PROHIBITIONS FOR WEARING COSTUMES AND MASKS AND I LIKE TO INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT WOULD ALTER THE PERSON'S APPEARANCE IN THE PRESENCE OF A NONFAMILIAL CHILD. AGAIN, FOCUSING ON ENTICING OR ATTRACTING CHILDREN OR ALLOWING THEM TO CONGREGATE AROUND THE SEX OFFENDERS. AGAIN, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE SANTA CLAUS, EASTER BUNNY ÃÃMOVIE CHARACTERS THAT MIGHT ATTRACT THE CHILD.

AND THEN PROVIDING MORE FOCUSED AND MORE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF THE KINDS OF EXTERIOR DECORATIONS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED AT ANY TIME. NOT JUST ON HOLLOWING ÃÃBUT YOU KNOW ÃÃTHE ACTUAL HOLIDAY AT ISSUE. BUT WE HAVE A LIST HERE THAT SAYS IT'S REFLECTED ON THE AMENDMENTS ORDINANCE AS WELL. ANY TYPE OF CLINICALS AND HOLOGRAMS AND PROJECTIONS THAT DRAW AND ATTRACT THE ATTENTION OF CHILDREN.

AS WELL AS THINGS LIKE MINING THE WALKWAY WITH THOSE DECORATIONS OR LIGHTS.

THAT MIGHT DRAW OR ATTRACT RESIDENTS. AS I INDICATED, THAT IS NOT LIMITED TO JUST THE HOLIDAY. AS WE ALL KNOW ÃÃHOLLOWING DECORATIONS FOR EXAMPLE ARE NOT BUT NOT JUST ON HOLLOWING AND THEN TAKEN DOWN. SAME WITH CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS. THAT'S A WHOLE HOLIDAY SEASON, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT STARTS RIGHT AFTER HALLOWEEN. SO WE DO HAVE HOLLOWING SPECIFIC PROVISIONS.

WE ARE KEEPING THE AVOIDING ALL HOLLOWING RELATED CONTACT AND NOT HOLLOWING DECORATIONS VISIBLE FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE RESIDENCE OF THE WHOLE DAY FROM 6 AM TO MIDNIGHT ON HOLLOWING. THAT INCLUDES THE SEX OFFENDER PREDATORS RESIDENCES AT HOME OR A VEHICLE OR VESSEL. WHETHER THEY RENTED OR NOT. IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO THE HOUSES THEY MAY OWN OR RESIDE IN ÃÃBUT VEHICLES AND VESSELS.

AGAIN, WE ARE KEEPING THE PROVISION AS WELL THAT EXTERIOR LIGHTS MUST BE REMAINING OFF ON

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HOLIDAY ON HOLLOWING AFTER 5 PM. INCLUDED A PROVISION THAT IS NOT IN THERE RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS MULTI FAMILY UNITS AND DEPARTMENTS.

SO ÃÃIF THE SEX OFFENDER LIVES IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING THAT HAS SAFETY LIGHTING OR HALLWAY LIGHTING THAT IS ORDINARILY KEPT ON ALL YEAR ÃÃ THAT STAYS ON.

BUT TALK ABOUT THE TYPE OF LIGHTING THE WAY DRAW CHILDREN ON HOLLOWING TO THE HOME TO THE RESIDENCE. AS INDICATED ÃÃWE ARE OPPOSING TO REMOVE A PROVISION THAT OPPOSES THE SIGN SAYING NO CANDY OR TREATS AT THIS RESIDENCE.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS A RECENT 11TH CIRCUIT CASE THAT IS THE FEDERAL APPEALS CIRCUIT THAT COVERS FLORIDA AND ALABAMA AND GEORGIA 2022 ISSUED AN OPINION THAT INDICATES A VERY SIMILAR PRACTICE TO CONSTITUTE AN AMENDMENT VIOLATION. ESSENTIALLY COMPELLING SPEECH ON BEHALF OF THE SEXUAL OFFENDER AND WE THINK THAT ESTABLISHING SOME PRECEDENTS THAT WOULD OPEN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE TO CHALLENGE AND OF COURSE POINT THE ORDINANCE TO BE ENFORCEABLE AND PROTECT CHILDREN AND THAT POINT IS DIMINISHED WHEN IT SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL CHALLENGE. WE ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THAT PROVISION HERE.

KEEPING THE EXCEPTIONS FOR EVENTS THAT ARE JUST FOR FAMILIAL CHILDREN OF THE SEXUAL OFFENDER AND THEN ADDING A POTENTIAL EXEMPTION WHEN THE SEX OFFENDER OR CREDITOR IS NOT PRESENT AT THE LOCATION. SO AT THE RISK THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS NOT PRESIDENT AS WELL. SO ÃÃTHIS WILL BE IF THE SEX OFFENDER OWNS ANOTHER PROPERTY THEY ARE NOT OCCUPYING BUT RENT OUT FOR EXAMPLE. THIS TENETS CAN PARTICIPATE THE HOLIDAY AND DECORATIONS OUTSTANDING THE FACT THAT THE LANDLORD WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO SO ON HIS OWN RESIDENCE. THESE WILL BE PRIVATE PROVIDED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I'M STILL WAITING ON THE FINAL COMMENTS.

WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE SECOND READING.OT RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR CALLS FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE DO HAVE FOLKS PRESENT WHO MIGHT PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS A FIRST READING THIS AND NO MOTION IS REQUIRED. BUT I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ANY COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS FROM THE BOARD THAT TO IMPROVE THE ORDINANCE FURTHER. BUT I WILL STAND BY FOR

ANYTHING AND FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.HANK YOU. >> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RIGHT NOW? STRUBLE TIES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK THEY DID ON CLARIFYING THE ORDINANCE AND STRENGTHENING IT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT

IN THE AREA THAT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO FOCUS ON. >> THANK YOU.

>> BUT MADDEN VICE CHAIR, WHICH PUBLIC COMMENT? >> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT

ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MONEY.

JUDY SPIEGEL, 11 GREENVILLE LANE MARCH 2, [INDISCERNIBLE] LANE. THIS IS A SMALL THING THAT WE CAN DO IN RAISING AWARENESS.

IT'S GOOD AND YOU GOTTA WATCH OUT FOR OUR KIDS.

[LAUGHTER] WATCH OUT FOR OUR KIDS. THIS IS A ROUGH WORLD OUT THERE. IT GETS ROUGHER EVERY DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. >> ,AND PROJECT LUMINOSITY 1748 NORTH APPAREL. WE NEED TO DEFINITELY PROTECT OUR YOUNG ONES.

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THE ONLY THING I DID NOT SEE IN THERE AND I KNOW WE ARE PROHIBITING THEM FROM GOING TO DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AND SO FORTH.

BUT IS THERE ANYTHING AND THE LAWS THAT PREVENT THE INDIVIDUAL FROM HAVING A PARTY IN THEIR HOUSE IF THEY HAVE A CHILD? THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE A

QUESTION ABOUT. >> THANK YOU. ANY FOR THE PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SING ON, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> MR. MULTIS, WOULD YOU MIND ANSWERING MR. INDISCERNIBLE] QUESTION?

>> WHAT REFERENCE AT THE END AND LET ME COME BACK TO THAT AGAIN.

ONLY PROVIDES AN EXCEPTION FOR EVENTS OR PRACTICES WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE ONLY ÃÃTHE CHILDREN OF THE SEX OFFENDER MEANING THAT THEY ARE THE PARENT OR GUARDIAN OF NONFAMILIAL CHILDREN ARE PRESENT TEST TEST DONE THAT EXCEPTION DOES NOT APPLY.

SO ÃÃIN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S AN EVENT THAT HAS JUST BEEN FOR THE CHILDREN OF THE

[6. Second Reading of Floating Structures Ordinance.]

SEX OFFENDER AT THEIR HOME ÃÃ WE ARE NOT TRYING TO INVADE INTO PEOPLE'S PARENT-CHILD RELATIONSHIPS. BUT IN OTHER NONFAMILIAL CHILDREN ARE INVOLVED THAN HIS

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EXCEPTION WOULD APPLY. I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> OKAY, THANK YOU MR. MULTIS. I THINK THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS ALSO

YOU. >> NO. >> NO?

>> MS. JULIUS GONNA TAKE OVER. >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU MR. MULTIS. MR. FERGUSON, GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> JULISSA FERGUSON, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I AM HERE TO DISCUSS THE SECOND READING OF THE POLLING STRUCTURE ORDINANCE.

BACK ON JUNE 20 ÃÃI BROUGHT YOU THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT STRUCTURES IN THE COUNTY WATERWAYS. AND THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE IS BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS RECENTLY SEEN A RISE IN THE MORNING AND ANCHORING OF LIVING STRUCTURES. WHICH POSES A SPECIAL RISK TO OTHERS AND PROPERTIES AS THE STRUCTURES ARE NOT SELF-PROPELLED AND CAN LEAD HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.

AND SOMETIMES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE MOVED DURING EMERGENCIES. IN THE FLOATING STRUCTURE ÃÃ PUTTING IT TO KEEP WITH OR WITHOUT ACCOMMODATIONS BUILT THEIR OWN ÃÃWHICH IS NOT PRIMARILY TEST TEST WHICH IS NOT PRIMARILY USED AS A MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION WATER ÃÃ WHICH SERVES PURPOSES OR PROVIDES SERVICES TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH FLOODING.

EXCUSE ME. STRUCTURE APPROVED WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY.

AND YES, LIKE A SAID EARLIER, IT'S JUST WE ARE TRYING TO PROHIBIT THIS FLOATING STRUCTURE.AND THIS WILL AFFECT THE WATERS ÃÃTHE WATER THAT THE COUNTY ÃÃWHICH MEANS ALL PORTIONS OF THE PUBLIC WATERWAYS UP TO AND INCLUDING THE HIGH MEAN I WATERMARK LOCATED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WHETHER IT'S LESS POLITICS OFTEN COUNT OR ADOPTION ORDINANCE AND CONFLICTS IN WHICH THIS CASE THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE EFFECTIVE TO THE EXTENT NOT IN CONFLICT WITH MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE. THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY SHOULD BE FOR ANY UNLAWFUL PERSON TO ANCHOR OR TIE OFF OR FIX A FLOATING STRUCTURE UPON THE WATERS OF THE COUNTY APPROPRIATE TO STORE ITEMS OR OCCUPY OR RESIDE UPON A FLOATING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE WATERS OR SUBMERGED LAND INCLUDING WITHIN THE WATERS OF THE COUNTY OR PUBLICLY OWNED LANDS. AND THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THIS TO THIS FLOATING STRUCTURE ORDINANCE. WHICH INCLUDES FLOATING STRUCTURES THAT ARE LAWFULLY MARRED AND PERMITTED. PUBLIC MORNING AND MOOREFIELD.

MARINA OR MARINA FACILITY FOR GOVERNMENT BORDER MARKERS. PERMITTED FLOATING STRUCTURES BY THE GOVERNMENT PERMITTED CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, VESSELS, AS WELL AS PERMITTED DRILLING ACTIVITY AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN ADDED SINCE THE FIRST READING.

THIS WAS ADDED BECAUSE WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM CORRESPONDENCE FROM FLORIDA IN THE NAVIGATION DISTRICT AND THEY SAID THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCE SO THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE TRUDGING THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO WITHIN THE WATERWAYS.

AND THE PENALTIES AND THE ENFORCEMENT. SO ÃÃOF THE FLOATING STRUCTURE SEEN IN THE WATERWAY ÃTHAT THE OWNERS WOULD BE GIVEN 21 DAYS TO COMPLY AND TO REMOVE THE FLOATING STRUCTURE. HOWEVER ÃÃIF THERE'S AN IMPENDING STORM, THEY WOULD BE ONLY BE GIVEN 24 HOURS TO DO SO. AND UP PUNISHMENT IS UP TO A $500 FINE PER DAY THAT THE FLOATING STRUCTURE STAYS IN THE WATERWAY.

AND THEY CAN GO TO JAIL FOR UP TO 60 DAYS. IN THE COUNTY 10 ÃÃDISMANTLE OR REMOVE THE FLOATING STRUCTURE AND THERE WILL BE SOME COSTS OBVIOUSLY TO THE COUNTY AND DETERMINE IF WE CAN RECOUP THOSE COSTS WOULD BE A QUESTION.

BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAINTAIN OUR WATERWAYS.

AND AS I STATED EARLIER, WE HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS AND CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING THIS FLOATING STRUCTURE AND ENTITIES THAT SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE.

AND ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WAS PDONE ÃÃWAS FROM SOME OF THE CORRESPONDENCE WE RECEIVED IS THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA FOR THE ATTRIBUTES OF A FLOATING STRUCTURE.

WAS BROAD AND AFTER DISCUSSING SOME THINGS FOR FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION ÃÃTHEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE MAKE THESE CHANGES WHICH FURTHER DEFINES OF PROPULSION OF A PUMP IN DOORWAYS, DOORS AND DOOR WAS TO HELP STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCE. AND AT THIS TIME, SINCE THIS IS

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THE READING, THERE IS A MOTION TO ENACT THIS ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT FLOATING STRUCTURES

AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> COMMISSIONER OR LIMO? >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

AT A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO ÃÃ IS THERE A TIMING ASPECT WITH THE FLOATING ORDINANCE AS FAR AS LET'S SAY YOU HAD A FLOATING ORDINANCE THE SPECIAL FLOATING STRUCTURE OUT THERE THAT YOU WANTED TO SELL ITEMS FROM AND WAS FLOATING MOST OF THE TIME AND YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT A MOTOR ON THE BACK AND KIND OF GO AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND GO INTO A CIRCLE.

WITH THAT ÃTHIS YOU KNOW KIND OF STIFLING WHAT WE RETURN TO DO HERE AS FAR AS FLOATING STRUCTURE?> WELL, DEPENDS BECAUSE THERE ARE 14 DIFFERENT ATTRIBUTES.

AND SO ÃÃIF SOMEONE WERE TO Ã ÃIF THEY WERE GIVEN A CITATION FOR A FLOATING STRUCTURE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE THAT Ã ÃWE WOULD GO TO COURT AND WE WOULD LAY OUT WHAT WE HAVE REGARDING THOSE 14 ATTRIBUTES. AND THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO FLOATING STRUCTURE DEFINITION. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY TWO THINGS.

IN MY OPINION ÃÃAN ASSEMBLY IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NATURAL RESOURCES IN OUR ENTIRE STATE. I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH MOST OF THE OTHER ANTS OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS. AND ALWAYS ESPECIALLY SINCE TOO BAD THE RESTAURANT GOT WHACKED BY MATTHEW.UT IF YOU WOULD SIT AND WATCH THE SUNSET WHEN HANKINSON WOULD PLAY HIS HARMONICA, MY MOST HAPPY MEMORIES. BUT ANYWAY, BEAUTIFUL.

AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT'S ON THE SOUTH AND OF THE AISLE. AND OUR OTHER BEAUTIFUL SPOT THAT HAS BEEN OVERRUN UNTIL SARAH HARDWICK GOT INVOLVED. KRISTA IS THAT MICHAEL'S LANDING. THEY WERE HARD-HITTING. THEY HAVE WHAT HE CALLED ÃJUST AS FLASH MOBS OR WHATEVER. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. WHEN YOU HIT THE BUTTON AND ALL THE SUDDEN 5000 PEOPLE SHOW UP. SO ÃÃTHANKFULLY SARAH HARDWICK APPARENTLY HAS GOTTEN THAT PRETTY WELL UNDER CONTROL. FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS ÃÃ I'VE BEEN GETTING AND I'M SURE ROY HAS BEEN GETTING NUMEROUS EMAILS, CALLS, WE'VE GOT SOME KEY RESIDENTIAL AREAS RIGHT THERE. WE GOT SOME ISLAND AND VC)RITC) AREA.

IN THIS RESIDENTS ARE SORT OF BEING ALMOST LITERALLY DRIVEN FROM THEIR HOMES WITH THE WILD WEEKEND PARTY FOR GO PAST MIDNIGHT. SO WHEN PEOPLE CAME TO US LAST JANUARY ÃÃROY, YOUR MOTHER THAT WE NEEDED TO DO TWO THINGS HERE.

WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE SAFETY TO THOSE RESIDENTS. ABOUT A MONTH AND AND A HALF AGO. I THINK ONE OF THE UNSUPERVISED PARTIES THAT GO TO MIDNIGHT.

THERE WAS A STABBING. AND THERE WAS NO SHERIFF PRESENCE.

THERE'S NO RESTROOMS PER THERE IS NOTHING. IT'S JUST LET'S SHOW UP AND PARTY. I WANT TO THANK MS. FERGUSON AND ALL THE OTHER STAFF THAT WORKED ON THIS AND IF THERE IS A MOTION ÃÃI'M PREPARED TO SECOND AND VOTE FOR IT.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> THE OTHER ÃÃYOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT COMMISSIONER DEAN. ALSO THESE STRUCTURES SIT THERE AND THEY FALL APART. AND THEY ARE SELLING THINGS AND THEY HAVE THEY ARE RENTING ÃÃ WAVE RUNNERS AND WHATNOT FROM THEM AND ACTUALLY THEY ARE TAKING AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE WORK IN THE AREA. SO ÃÃREALLY IT'S A THREAT TO SOMEBODY PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY IF THEY START BREAKING UP AND POLLUTING THE

AREA ALSO. SO YES, I SUPPORT THIS. >> COMMISSIONER OR LIMO?

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS WE ARE NOT PARTIAL IN ONE BUSINESS IN PARTICULAR. AND I'M ALWAYS PRO SMALL BUSINESS.

BUT I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS FOUND IS REALLY UNIQUE WITH OUR BEACHES IS GO TO OTHER BEACHES AND WHEN HE GOT THERE, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE SELLING STUFF. THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS AND T-SHIRTS AND JET SKIS AND WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. HERE AND I THINK THIS KIND OF THE FLOATING STRUCTURES ARE A WAY TO CIRCUMVENT THAT. TO SELL STUFF AND RENT STUFF. I DO SEE AS A ÃÃA WAY OF A SAFETY ISSUE AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. SO ÃÃI WILL OFFER A MOTION TO

ENACT ORDINANCE 2023. >> 29! >> STRUCTURES.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL ADDRESS ANY PUBLIC, AND AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER 26. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING TO ALL OF YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I WAS HERE AT THE OPENING OF MARINE LAND.

[LAUGHTER] >> COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> I HAVE BEEN HERE. AND HOW I'VE SEEN THE CHANGES. DOWN.

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>> CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD MAMA.

>> YES, MY NAME IS JACKIE DUSEN 9233 FASTER COURT. I WOULD LIKE O SAY IT'S THE WORST THING THAT I'VE SEEN. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S MATANZAS CENTER IS A DANGEROUS AND LAND.

OTS OF YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF DROWNING THERE BECAUSE OF THE TIDE CHANGE AND EVERYTHING. I ALSO WANT TO SAY NOT ONLY IS THE THING GOING ON DOWN THERE THAT'S IN THE WATER THAT PROPOSES ALL KINDS OF HAZARDS Ã ÃTHERE'S LOTS OF CHILDREN OUT THERE AND THEY ARE SWIMMING. WE USED TO GO DOWN THERE FOR PICNICS AND EVERYTHING.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE DRINKING DOWN THERE AND DOING THEIR VOTES AND OIL IN THE WATER. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING HOW DETRIMENTAL THIS IS.

TO THE TURTLES THAT ARE NESTING RIGHT NOW. THE DOLPHINS THAT USED TO SWIM IN THE RIVER. THEY ARE DISAPPEARING OR BEING HIT BY PROPELLERS.

THE TERMS THAT NEST THERE. TURNS BUILDING A NEST RIGHT ON TOP OF THE SAND.

AND THEN HE INCUBATES THEM. AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND AND STEPPING ON EGGS AND BREAKING THE EXPERTS WE ARE NOT CAN HAVE ANY TERMS EITHER. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS PERSON GOT A LICENSE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU ALL. HOW DID HE GET A LICENSE TO DO THIS? AND WHO ISSUED THE LICENSE? OES THE COUNTY ISSUE? DOES THE STATE ISSUE IT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE RANGERS AT FORT MATANZAS THAT THE ANNA RIVER KEEPERS ÃÃTHAT THE RIVERS ARE UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE STATE. WHERE AS THE LAND IS UNDER CONTROL OF THE COUNTY. I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS.

BUT IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN DOWN THERE ÃÃI INVITE YOU TO GO DOWN AND LOOK AT THIS MASS.

IT'S AWFUL! THE OTHER THING IS THAT ON A 1A ÃÃTHE PARKING IS TERRIBLE.

IT'S A CITY HIGHWAY DESIGNATED TWO LANES. WE CANNOT ENLARGE IT.

AND DOWN THERE, OR THEY HAD PARKING SIGNS FOR THE/NO, THINK OF THE CITATION.

AND THINKING THROUGH IT OUT AND THEY ARE MENTORING.ITH THE CITATIONS.

THEN AN ADDITIONAL CONSEQUENCE. THEY ARE GETTING A FULL-TIME THE CARS IN IT.

THEY'RE GOING DOWN AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A TERRIBLE ACCIDENT DOWN THERE AND THEY SAID ÃÃ

THERE WAS A STABBING RECENTLY. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN ÃÃIT'S IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS HER ISSUE. >> AS I LOOK INTO THIS AND ESCAPED MY ATTENTION LAST JANUARY. AND WHAT I DISCOVERED ÃÃ

MA'AM, MA'AM, I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. >> YES, I HEAR YOU.

[INDISCERNIBLE] [LAUGHTER]

>> WERE LOOKING THE OTHER WAY. I WAS FEELING LONELY AND I CONTACT.

[LAUGHTER] SO I LOOKED INTO THIS IN JANUARY AND SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY FEDERAL AND STATE AGENCY INFORMED ME THAT THEY HAD NO JURISDICTION.

THERE WAS NO LAW, THERE IS NO RULE. AND I WAS SOMEWHAT SHOCKED.

AND THEN MY ATTORNEYS ADVISED ME THAT WE HAD NO JURISDICTION. UNLESS WE ADOPT AN ORDINANCE.

SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE ARE ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE AND SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES HAVE DONE.O THAT WE CAN HAVE JURISDICTION OVER A VERY BAD SITUATION IN MY OPINION. BOTH FROM A NATURAL RESOURCE AND A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THOSE FAMILIES I IMAGINE. BUT THAT'S HOW IT ALL STARTED AND THAT'S WHAT NONE OF THE FEDERAL OR STATE AGENCIES HAD ANY JURISDICTION. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> IT DOES. BUT WHEN YOU OPEN A BUSINESS Ã ÃI UNDERSTAND WHICH IS A BUSINESS. THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A LICENSE.

WHO ISSUED THAT LICENSE? >>. >> IS NOT UP TO US TO MAKE THAT CALL. IT'S REALLY UP TO DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT WOULD HAVE ON DRY LAND THAT IS ON DRY LAND IF YOU OPEN A RESTAURANT OR A CAFC) OR GAS STATION ÃÃWE HAVE, SINCE.

UT IF YOU ARE AT AN OPEN WATER ÃÃAPPARENTLY IT'S NOT MAN'S LAND.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD. >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS TOLD TO.

BECAUSE OF THE COTTON COMMITTED TIDE ÃÃHE IS ONLY PART OF THE TIME ÃHIGH TIDE COMES UP.

>> THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. I SPENT FIVE YEARS LITIGATING CASES ON MAIN WATER LINES. TRUST ME. I'M TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR

QUESTIONS AS BEST I CAN. >> THANK YOU.> OKAY? >> VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> COME ON DOWN. >> GOOD MORNING.

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>> GOOD MORNING. WILLIAM FISHER, 10130 MCMAHON AVENUE ESTATES.

I'VE SEEN THESE FLOATING RESTAURANTS. AND I HAVE A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RESOLVE IT OR NOT ÃÃ IF IT HAS A MOTOR ON IT OR IN IT AND IT'S A RESTAURANT ÃÃIS IT LICENSE TO RESTAURANT SELL THE FOOD AND MEET THE HEALTH REQUIREMENTS? ALSO IF IT'S ON THE WATER AND AS THE COAST GUARD NUMBERS ON

THE BOW ÃTHIS IS NOW A VESSEL? AND NOT A STRUCTURE? >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I'M GONNA ASK OUR ATTORNEYS TO ASK THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

>> LET'S FINISH PUBLIC, AND THEN WE'RE GOING AT SOME THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED PER.

>> THANK YOU MR. FISHER. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS PEGGY COOK.9 75 CHARLES STREET. I HAVE LIVED AT THAT ADDRESS FOR 40 YEARS. WHICH IS IN CRESCENT BEACH JUST SOUTH OF THE 206 BRIDGE.

AND I AM HERE TODAY FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE IS THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE A FLOATING STRUCTURE IN MY BACKYARD. FOR THE DANGERS AND ANYWAY ÃÃ ALSO ÃÃI AM A AUDUBON SINKING COUNTY AUDUBON LEADER AT FORT MATANZAS.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU WERE JUST DISCUSSING.

WHEN I LEAVE BOARDWALKS THERE ONCE A MONTH ÃÃPEOPLE COME THERE ALONG THE RIVER AND THEY LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE AND THEY ARE AMAZED THAT THAT IS THERE IN THE RIVER.

IT DOES NOT BELONG THERE. ALSO ÃÃI ÃÃOUR PRESIDENT OF ST. JOHN'S REGIONAL AUDUBON HAS SENT YOU A LETTER IN FAVOR OF PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE. I WOULD LIKE TO READ HER FINAL PARAGRAPH ÃÃTHE ST. JOHN'S REGIONAL AUDUBON BELIEVES THAT THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE COULD HELP MITIGATE THE DISTURBANCES TO THE BIRDS AND PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH A GOOD TOOL TO HELP PREDICT OTHER NESTING SHOREBIRD SITES WITHIN THE JURISDICTION AND IT WOULD ALSO GIVE THE COUNTY A TOOL TO HELP PROTECT THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF PEOPLE USING THE SHORELINES.

WE URGE YOU TO ENACT IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

JEN LUMBERED WITH 291 COVERAGE ROAD. I WANTED TO COME TODAY TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR TAKING ACTION ON THIS ITEM. I HAVE BEEN GETTING DOZENS OF PHONE CALLS OF PEOPLE EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT PUTTING STRUCTURES TO THE SITUATION. ANSWER ÃÃAS WE HAVE KIND OF THE TERM THIS MORNING, WHAT STRUCTURES FALL INTO A VERY DIFFICULT REGULATORY SITUATION BECAUSE OF HOW THEY ARE SITUATED? AND SO FAST THAT THE ONLY WAY THE COUNTY CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE ADOPTED ORDINANCES LIKE TO TRY AND COMBAT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

SO ÃÃTHE FLOATING STRUCTURE IN PARTICULAR ÃÃIT POSES A LOT OF SAFETY CONCERNS BECAUSE IT IS RENTING OUT JET SKIS. JET SKIS DO NOT REQUIRE A LICENSE TO OPERATE THEM.

THEY DO NOT HAVE A BRAKING SYSTEM. AND BECAUSE A LOT OF FAMILIES EASILY IN THE AS A SHIELDED AREA FOR SMALL CHILDREN TO SWIM AND RECREATE ÃÃHAVING JET SKIS OR SMALL CHILDREN OR SWIMMING OBVIOUSLY POSES A SAFETY CONCERN.

PROTEIN STRUCTURES ALSO POSES CONCERNS AS FAR AS NAVIGATION GOES.

WHILE BOATERS AND FISHERMEN USE THE INLET TO TRAVERSE IN BETWEEN THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY AND THE OCEAN. AND SO, HAVING A FLOATING STRUCTURE THERE THAT CANNOT BE MOVED RAPIDLY GOING TO POSE AN ISSUE AS FAR AS HAVING TO NAVIGATE AROUND THOSE THINGS AND THEN ALSO POTENTIALLY HAVING TO PICK UP DEGREE IF A HURRICANE COMES IN THE STRUCTURE START TO BREAK APART. AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AS WELL FOR HAVING PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THIS FLOATING STRUCTURE HAVING PEOPLE CAMPING OUT THERE, THEY ARE NOT RESTING FACILITIES OUT THERE. PUTTING STRUCTURES, ABLE TO MOVE TO A MIRANDA IN ORDER TO PUMP THE ANY TYPE OF SEWAGE FACILITY.

THE ÃÃTHE NATURAL CONCLUSION THAT YOU ARE LED TO IS THAT A LOT OF THAT HUMAN WASTE IS ENDING UP IN THE WATERWAY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RECREATING. SO ÃTHAT'S WITH THE COMMISSION AND TAKING LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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AND A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE REALLY CONCERNED. TO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS LISA MCGLYNN. I LIVE AT 703 PINEHURST PLACE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AND I WANTED TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT WHEN CITIZENS HAVE AN ISSUE AND THEY COME TO THEIR COMMISSION AND TELL THE COMMISSIONERS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS ÃÃI WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO US AND GETTING THIS ORDINANCE ENACTED. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX?

SEEING THEM, WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MS. FERGUSON, COULD YOU TRY

TO ANSWER MR. FISHER'S QUESTIONS? >> YES I CAN.

AND SO ÃÃIN THE TERM FLOATING STRUCTURE DOES TEAM A RESTAURANT A FLOATING STRUCTURE.SO YOU CANNOT HAVE A RESTAURANT ON THE WATERWAY THE WAY ÃÃTO ANSWER HIS

[7. Fiscal Year 2024 Recommended Budget and Proposed Millage Rates.]

QUESTION IS A RESTAURANT DOES INCLUDE A FLOATING STRUCTURE. AND JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS REGISTERED AS A VESSEL DOES NOT PRECLUDE IT FROM BEING DEEMED A FLOATING STRUCTURE.> THANK

YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION. WE HAD A MOTION? WE'VE HAD A SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. >> REMIND ME IF THERE IS NOT FOR THE DISCUSSION TEST IS

PLEASE CAST THE VOTE. >> ALL RIGHT, THAT PASSES 5Ä. >> THANK YOU.> THANK YOU

MRS. FERGUSON. P>> THANK YOU AGAIN MRS. FERGUSON.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. >> OKAY, THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

MR. DUNN? GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

GOOD ONE.HAIRMAN GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. JESSE DONE.

DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. AND THIS MORNING WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH VERY QUICKLY I SHOULD SAY THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.E'RE GONNA GET TO THE PROPOSED RATES WHICH ARE FIRST ACTION. ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS. SO ÃÃA QUICK KIND OF ADVERTISEMENT IF YOU WILL FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING. THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET CAN BE FOUND ONLINE.

IF YOU GO TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND YOU GO TO THE BUDGET OFFICE.

HIGHLIGHTED HERE IS THE FY 2012 RECOMMENDED COUNTY BUDGET AND JUST SO YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THAT.

YOU CAN PRINT IT, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IS A PDF IF YOU LIKE, ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE AND IT'S ORGANIZED BY SERVICE AREAS. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ONE AREA AND MAYBE NOT ANOTHER, YOU CAN JUST PRINT THE THE INFORMATION FOR YOUR REVEAL.

GETTING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS ÃÃTHIS BEGAN IN FEBRUARY AS A SEVEN MONTH PROCESS FROM FEBRUARY ÃSEPTEMBER IS STRUCTURED AND THIS PROCESS IS PRESCRIBED AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO THE ADOPTION PROCESS. AND STRUCTURED TWO FLORIDA STATUTES.

STATUTE 129.3 STATUTE 265, RELATES TO TRUTH AND MILLAGE, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET TO TODAY LATER ON IN THE MOTIONS. TRUTH AND MILLAGE OR TRIM INFORMS TAXPAYERS THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS BY WHICH THE LOCAL TAXING AUTHORITY DETERMINES AD VALOREM PROPERTIES.E'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING VILLAGE RATES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ARROW UP ON THE SCREEN THAT WE ARE IN THE YELLOW PAID WE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME PROCESS IN ME.GAIN, THE HIGHLY INMATE WAS A BIG REALLY ÃÃA BIG REVIEW AND DUE DILIGENCE.

GETTING INTO THE DETAIL OVER TWO AND HALF DAYS OF THE BUDGET.E WAIT FOR THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S CERTIFIED VALUE, WHICH IS DUE ON JULY 1 AND THAT CAME IN EARLIER THIS YEAR IN JUNE. I PRESENTED THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET AT THE LAST BCC MEETING TO THE COMMISSION. AND AT THIS DATE, WE ARE GOING TO ASK THE BOARD ESTABLISH A PROPOSED VILLAGE GREAT. AS WE MOVE INTO TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER.

SO ÃÃTHE BUDGET AT THIS APPOINTMENT AND THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS A LITTLE OVER.

IT'S ALMOST $1.2 BILLION. AGAIN, THAT IS ONLINE FOR THE ENTIRE LINE ITEM BUDGET OF THAT AND OR SUMMARIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO SEPTEMBER.

WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE WHAT WE CALL MULTIYEAR CAPITOL AND GRANT CARRYFORWARDS.

SO IT'S ALREADY A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO RE-APPROPRIATE ANY BALANCES ON PROJECTS INTO THE NEW FISCAL INTO THE NEW 24 BUDGET. SO ÃÃWE WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE ON THAT. THOSE ARE APPROPRIATIONS THAT HAVE VERY BEEN ADOPTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET PROCESS. AND SIMPLY, WE CARRY IT FORWARD AND I WILL PROVIDE A RECONCILIATION OF THOSE IN SEPTEMBER WITH OUR FIRST OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

SO ÃÃJUST A COUPLE OF QUICK HIGHLIGHTS. SOME ANOMALIES IF YOU WILL THIS YEAR. CERTAINLY EXCELLENT NEWS. THE COUNTY RECEIVED $59 MILLION AND THIS HAS BEEN CERTAINLY A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HEARD BEFORE.

IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND APPROPRIATIONS RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION.

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LAND CONSERVATION AND COASTAL PROTECTION AND THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. AND AS WE MOVE INTO PROPERTY TAXES ÃÃTHE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE DETERMINED A 16.5 PERCENT INCREASE IN TAXABLE VALUES.

WHICH RESULTS IN UP HERE ON THIS SCREEN. IN THAT MIDDLE COLUMN.

43.6 MILLION IN INCREMENTAL PROPERTY TAXES. AND THAT'S COMPARED TO THE COMMISSIONED WORK WITH THE ROLLBACK RATE WOULD BE AN INCREMENTAL $12.6 MILLION.

AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT LATER ON. THIS MORNING.

OR IN THIS AGENDA ITEM. DESPITE THERE BEING A 16.5 PERCENT INCREASE IN THAT VALUATION ÃÃIF WE WERE TO MAINTAIN FLAT VILLAGE RATES, HOMESTEAD PROPERTY OWNERS WILL NOT EXPERIENCE A 16.5 PERCENT INCREASE IN TAXES. AT FLAT VILLAGE RATES, HOMEOWNERS WILL LIKELY EXPERIENCE CLOSER TO THREE PERCENT.

PUBLICLY THREE AND CHANGE. 3.1 AND 3.2 PERCENT. BUT IT'S IN THE THREE PERCENT ARENA. AND THAT IS DUE TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA HOMES PROVISION.

TO PROTECT HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES FROM THE FULL PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE.

NINE HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES ARE CAPPED AT 10 PERCENT. SO ÃÃBEFORE WE GET INTO REALLY WHAT OUR TWO PRESCRIBED MOTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED VILLAGE RATES ÃÃ THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT THE BOARD ASKED FOR WHEN THEY PROVIDED A VOICE VOTE.

PROVIDING SOME FINANCIAL INFORMATION AND THERE WERE FOUR ITEMS PLUS A KIND OF A SIDE ITEM IF YOU WILL. ONE ITEM RELATED TO CONSULTING IS TO GET A BREAKDOWN ON THAT.

AND I'M PREPARING THAT AND I WILL DISTRIBUTE THAT TO THE COMMISSIONER BREAKDOWN IN THE BUDGET OF CONSULTING APPROPRIATIONS AND THE BREAKDOWN AND IF THERE IS A DESIRE ÃÃI CAN CERTAINLY MEET WITH COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY ON WHAT THOSE CONSULTING DOLLARS ARE TO TAKE DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD. BUT BEFORE COST ITEMS ARE REFLECTED HERE AND THE FIRST ONE IS A SEVEN PERCENT EMPLOYEE INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT FOR FY 24. AND THIS WAS IN LIEU OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY MODELED WHICH WAS FOUR PERCENT PLUS A DOLLAR. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH HAD ASKED ME TO ALSO LOOKING BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME EMPLOYEE WITHIN CERTAIN PAY GRADES THE ACTUALLY THE POOR POINT ÃÃFOUR PERCENT PLUS A DOLLAR ACTUALLY HAS AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE SEVEN PERCENT.

SO ÃÃLOOKING AT THIS ÃÃI LOOKED AT THE SEVEN PERCENT INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT OVERALL.ND THEN SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO MAY BENEFIT FROM A FOUR PERCENT PLUS A DOLLAR AND DETERMINED THAT THE INCREMENTAL COST WOULD BE ABOUT $650,000. THAT IS ACROSS ALL FUNDS. FOR FY 24.

AND WHAT I AM GOING TO DO AND IS I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A VOICE VOTE FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSENSUS IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITHIN THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT INCORPORATING THOSE ÃÃTHESE ITEMS INTO THE FY 24. AT THIS POINT, IF I CAN ASK FOR A VOICE VOTE OR ASSOCIATE WITH THAT SEVEN PERCENT INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER, I THOUGHT? >> I HAVE A QUESTION REALLY. >> YES, PLEASE.

>> HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE VERY GOOD AT MATH. SO ÃÃCAN YOU SORT OF WALK ME THROUGH CORNBREAD THIS AND MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR ME SO I CAN UNDERSTAND? HOW CAN A PERSON GETTING A FOUR PERCENT INCREASE PLUS A DOLLAR BE BETTER OFF IN GETTING A SEVEN PERCENT INCREASE PLUS A DOLLAR? TO ME, THAT DOESN'T COMPUTE IN

MY LITTLE BRAIN. >> SURE.

[LAUGHTER] ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

SO IT'S FOUR PERCENT PLUS A DOLLAR. THAT DOLLAR IS A DOLLAR ON YOUR ANNUAL HOURS, WHICH ARE 2080. IT'S FOUR PERCENT PLUS $2080. N LOWER SALARIES ÃÃTHE 2080+ THE FOUR PERCENT IS ACTUALLY A HIGHER CALCULATION THAN IF THEY WERE JUST TO RECEIVE SEVEN PERCENT. SO ÃÃTHE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT SEVEN PERCENT PLUS A

DOLLAR. WAS SEVEN PERCENT. >> I GOT NOW.

OKAY. >> GOT IT. A LITTLE SLOW DOWN THERE.

>> NO, GOOD QUESTION. [LAUGHTER]

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> SO ÃÃTHAT IS, WHAT HAVE THE LETTER HERE FROM ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES. IS THERE ANY WAY TO DO BOTH? OR IS THERE A WAY TO Ã¦

>> YES. >> OKAY. >> THE CALCULATION OF THEIR OF 650 INCREMENTAL THERE ÃÃIT WOULD ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS.

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ANY OTHERS? >> WE ARE LOOKING FOR VOTE BY VOICE FOR THE TOP ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER 71 PERCENT PLACE AREA JUST PLUS MY ADJUSTMENT THERE.

COMMISSIONER LENA? >> YES. >> YES?

>> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT ÃÃNUMBER TWO. THE COMMISSION HAD ASKED ME TO LOOK AT THE ADDITIONAL ÃÃTHE ADDITION OF 18 FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS TOWARDS WHAT IS THE NFPA NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION.

WHAT IS THAT? ASSOCIATION. AND I BELIEVE IT'S NFPA STANDARD 1710. THE ADDITIONAL 18 FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS THAT ARE NINE ÃÃ WHICH COME TONIGHT ENGINEERS AND NINE TENANTS IS A $1.9 MILLION COST AND THAT CAN BE FUNDED IN COMBINATION TO THE FIRE DISTRICT FUND AND THE GENERAL FUND.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? NUMBER TWO ON THE SCREEN?

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> YES. I APPRECIATE IT.

IT'S GOOD. >> YOU ARE A YES? MR. ARNOLD?

I AM A YES. COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> YES.

THAT'S FINE. >> NUMBER TWO. >> OKAY.

THE THIRD ONE WAS LAND ACQUISITION AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.HE CURRENT PROGRAM WAS FUNDED AT $500,000 A YEAR. EQUEST WAS TO INCREASE THAT AN ADDITIONAL $1.5 MILLION AND DISCUSSION CAME AT US WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE RECURRING OR NONRECURRING DOLLARS.

MY RECOMMENDATION FOR 24 WOULD BE TO FUND THIS THROUGH WHAT ARE CALLED NONRECURRING FUNDING DOLLARS AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THIS EACH YEAR AS PART OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.

>> OKAY ÃÃANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SLIDE? >> THE TOTAL WILL BE 2 MILLION?

>> YES, THIS WOULD BE INCREMENTAL ON TOP OF THAT PITS OF THE TOTAL WOULD BE 2 MILLION. NEXT I AM A YES ON THIS PROGRESS COMMISSIONER JOSEPH IS YES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE BEFORE WE GO? OMMISSIONER JOSEPH WAS A YES. I AM A YES. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> YES. >> VERIFIED VOTE. ON THE PROGRAM.

$2 MILLION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24. >> OKAY.

VERY GOOD. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE AND THEN I WILL ALSO DO MY BEST. BUT DIRECTOR JEFFREY GIBSON IS ALSO HERE FROM LIBRARY SERVICES TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS. THE BOARD ASKED US TO LOOK AT THE REINSTATEMENT OF LIBRARY BRANCH HOURS TO 2008 LEVELS OF COST.

SO ÃÃIT'S UP TO ABOUT HALF-MILLION DOLLAR LESS THAN HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

AND I WILL GO THROUGH. SO WE PROVIDED TWO OPTIONS TODAY.

ONE WOULD BE KIND OF A FALLBACK ÃÃTHE OPTION A WOULD BE TO REINSTATE THOSE LIBRARY HOURS AGAIN TO FY 2008 LEVELS. IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME. WE HAVE ADDED 75 SERVICE HOURS PER WEEK. THAT NECESSITATES 3.9 FTES IN TOTAL.

IT OPENS IT PROVIDES MOST LOCATIONS AND A CHART. I THINK AHEAD TO THE CHART OUT WITH THREE THINGS. AND I WOULD CHART ON THE NEXT PAGE THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THIS. IT OPENS ON ANASTASIA ISLAND IN HASTINGS BRANCHES ON MONDAYS.

WHICH ARE CURRENTLY NOT. SOUTHEAST AND BARRED FROM LIBRARIES ON SUNDAYS AND AGAIN, THE COST IS A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF A MILLION ANNUALLY. OPTION B WOULD BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT AND THAT IS PRIMARILY TO PROVIDE THE MONDAY AND SUNDAY HOURS.

BUT NO ADDITIONAL WEEKDAY TIMES EVENINGS AND EARLIER OPENINGS. THAT WOULD NECESSITATE ABOUT 35 SERVICE HOURS PER WEEK. AT A COST OF A LITTLE LESS THAN $300,000 ANNUALLY.

AND JUST THE KIND OF PROVIDE THIS HERE ÃÃI AM TRYING. I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT IT DOWN.

BUT THE ORANGE AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE YELLOW UP THERE WOULD BE THE OPTION AT ABOUT 490,000.

SO ÃÃYOU COULD SEE THE CURRENT LIBRARY HOURS ARE IN THE CHART.

TOP THERE. ADDITIONAL HOURS THERE ÃÃYOU CAN SEE IF YOU GO WITH OPTION B ONLY. IT PROVIDES FOR THE ORANGE THERE.

THE ADDITIONAL AI AND HASTINGS ON MONDAY.HE ADDITIONAL SUNDAY HOURS APARTMENT ON PONTEVEDRA SOUTHEAST ON SUNDAY. OPTION A, WHICH AGAIN IS 200,000 MORE AT 400 $90,000 A YEAR. PROVIDES ALSO THE YELLOW IN THERE, WHICH ARE THE ADDITIONAL HOURS DURING THE WEEK. LOOKING BACK FOR A VOICE.

A VOTE AS TO THE REINSTATEMENT OF THE OPTIONS THEY WERE OPTIONS B.

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>> OKAY, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR? COMMISSIONER PALERMO?

>> IS MS. GIBSON HERE? >> HE IS. >> GOOD MORNING DEBORAH GIBSON

DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES. >> CAN ONE. I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT ME THAT WAS AT A COUPLE OF EVENTS THIS WEEKEND AND WE ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO HIRE THE STRIVER AND DISPATCHES. YOU CAN HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH STAFFING REGARDING THIS?

FOR THE PLANNING IN PLACE FOR ADDITIONAL HOURS? >> OUR MANAGERS HAVE ARTIE PREEMPTED SOME BLOCK SCHEDULES TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BOTH WITH THE ADDITIONAL HOURS DURING THE WEEK. WE PLAN TO RECRUIT A LOT OF THE FRONTLINE CIRCULATIONS IN BOTH SIMILAR TO WHAT FIRE IS DONE THAT YOU JUST RECRUIT THE LIBRARY ASSISTANCE AND BASICALLY THE PLAN TO WORK FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. SO IT'S THE SAME HOURS

REGARDLESS OF THE LOCATIONS. >> OKAY. >> ARE USING OVER THE LAST FEW

YEARS AND INCREASE IN LIBRARY ACTIVITY FOLKS COMING IN? >> WE ARE SEEING ESPECIALLY THIS PAST YEAR. I AM A LOT OF THE FOLKS WERE USING VIRTUALLY HAVE RETURNED IN PERSON.HE PROGRAMMING OF NUMBERS ARE THROUGH THE ROOF FOR US.

AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A REQUEST FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS THAT WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY STAFFED TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THOSE REQUESTS. THIS WOULD GET US BACK TOWARDS THE SCHOOLS AND THE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND TAKERS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'VE NOT

BEEN ABLE TO DO FOR SEVERAL YEARS. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU MAMA. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> LET'S TAKE AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.

COMMISSIONER LEHMANN? COMMISSIONER DEAN? I'M A YES.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> YES THAT'S OPTION B. >> OKAY SO ÃÃFORGIVE ME.

THAT'S A FAIR POINT. SO ÃÃCOMMISSIONER LIMO? I WAS ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON OPTION A? WAS THAT YOUR INTENT WHEN YOU WROTE YES?

>> OPTION B. >> VOTING IS AN OPTION BE? >> MR. OR DINO, OPTION B? I'M A YES ON B. YES ON B. WE ARE FIVE AND ZERO ON OPTION B. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU A SECOND OR TWO. TO SORT OF REVIEW THE BIDDING FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW WHY WE ARE TAKING THIS UP SPECIFICALLY IN MY OPINION ANYWAY.

YOU REALLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DEEP RECESSION. WE HAD IN 08.

DELAY OF 240 EMPLOYEES. THE KOS A COUPLE OF BRANCHES. THE LIBRARY SYSTEM WAS IN MY PERSONAL OPINION EXTREMELY REDUCED IN FUNDING AND STAFFING.

AND THE FIRST FIVE YEARS I SERVED ON THIS COMMISSION ÃÃI WAS ON THE ADVISORY LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. AND I LEARNED VERY QUICKLY THAT THE THAT LACK OF FUNDING REMAINED IN PLACE. WE NEVER CAME BACK AS A COMMISSION.

THIS ENTIRE PERIOD BASICALLY GET BACK TO THE LEVEL OF 2007. AND I WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO THE PROBABLY ON BEHALF OF DEBORAH TOO. THANKING EVERYBODY TO MAKE THE PROGRESS TO GETTING BACK IN PROVIDING OUR RESIDENTS AND ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN.

ADEQUATE LIBRARY SERVICES IN MY OPINION HAVE BEEN MISSING FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS.

THE GO. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DEAN.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION.

NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO WHAT I WOULD SAY THE PRESCRIBED MOTIONS TODAY AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.O THE FY 24 RECOMMENDED BUDGET IS PREDICATED ON THE PROPOSED VILLAGE RATES HERE IN AND I WILL SHOW THOSE IN THE SECOND. PROPOSED VILLAGE RATES.

THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING INFORMATION AND ROLLBACK RATE AS PART OF WHAT THEY CALL AGAIN, THE TRUTH AND MILLEDGE OR TRUMP PROCESS AND THE INFORMATION YOU WILL TAKE ACTION ON TODAY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE TREATMENT NOTICE THAT IS MAILED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. O ALL HOMEOWNERS OR TAXPAYERS.

ONCE ESTABLISHED PROPOSED VILLAGE RATES CAN BE REDUCED BUT NOT INCREASED.

AN INCREASE WOULD NECESSITATE AN ADDITIONAL PROCESS THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO THEN REPOST THE MILLAGE RATES AND RESUBMIT THE TREATMENT NOTICE. THE ROLLBACK RATE ÃÃWHICH WE WILL HIGHLIGHT TODAY IS DEFINED AS THE MILLAGE RATE NEEDED TO BE LEVIED IN THE FISCAL YEAR TO GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS AS ADOPTED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

AND IF NOT, HAS AN EXCLUSION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IT'S NOT CONSIDERED FOR INFLATION.

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BASICALLY THE PROCESS NECESSITATES US TO REALLY DICTATE THIS PROCESS AROUND THE ROLLBACK RATE DISCUSSION. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ÃÃI SHOWED THIS CHART EARLIER.

THE INCREMENTAL TAXES FOR FY 24 ARE REFLECTED IN THAT FIRST COLUMN.

AN ADDITIONAL $29.8 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL FUND. $8.3 MILLION FOR THE FIRE DISTRICT FUND. THE TRUST WOULD BE AN INCREMENTAL 5.4 MILLION AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS AT OR ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND INCREMENTAL.

IT'S BUILT ON THIS PARTICULAR INCREMENTAL TAXES AND THESE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS I WILL SAY ADDRESSING AND I WILL START FROM TRANSPORTATION TRUST. CERTAINLY ENTRUSTING OUR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

AN ADDITIONAL INCREMENTAL DOLLARS TOWARDS THOSE PROGRAMS ONLY ASSISTS IN AGAIN, ADDRESSING THE INFRASTRUCTURE ANDFIRE DISTRICT. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEED FROM THE COMMUNITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND FIRE STATIONS. SO ÃÃCERTAINLY AT THE INCREMENTAL $8.3 MILLION, THAT HELPS US FACILITATE THAT DIRECTION.

THE GENERAL FUND OF $29.8 MILLION ÃTHAT'S THE INCREMENTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDS TEST AS MANY OF THE GOVERNMENT SERVICES THAT WE THINK OF BEYOND WHAT WE THINK OF ROAD AND FIRE INCLUDING OUR EMS DEPARTMENT. OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

PORTION OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. OUR LIBRARIES THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT AN HOUR PARKS. AND RECREATION PROGRAMS AS WELL.

CODE ENFORCEMENT AND KIND OF THE TOPIC AND SO ÃÃCERTAINLY ANY GOVERNMENT SERVICES THAT ARE OUT THERE.O ÃÃOUR BUDGET AGAIN IS BUILT ON THE INCREMENTAL TAXES OF 43.6.

THE INCREMENTAL TAXES THAT THEY ROLLBACK RATE, WHICH IS NOT HOW THE PARTICULAR BUDGET THIS YEAR HAS BEEN BUILT. TO THIS POINT. WOULD BE A $12.6 MILLION PERSON ÃÃIN COMPARISON ÃÃIF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST AGAIN, IF TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS GOING TO THE ROLLBACK RATE WOULD PROVIDE $0.5 MILLION TOWARDS THAT PROGRAM. SIMILAR TEST TEST SIMILARLY EXCUSE ME FOR FIRE TEST IS TO PROVIDE $2.4 MILLION TOWARDS THE DEMAND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND $8.7 MILLION WOULD NOT ADDRESS AGAIN, KIND OF THE DEMAND REHEARSING FOR EMS. FOR SHERIFF. FOR LIBRARIES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS. AT THIS POINT ÃÃWHILE THE ROLLBACK RATE IS RATES I'M SORRY ÃTHIS AD VALOREM ARE REFLECTED THERE ÃÃWE ARE Ã THIS WE ARE AGAIN BUILDING A BUDGET BASED ON THE 43.6 MILLION. THE REQUIRED MOTION IS TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES THAT ARE IN THAT LAST COLUMN. IT'S MY REQUIREMENT TO SHOW THE FY 23 ADOPTED RATES.

IT WAS MY REQUIREMENT TO SHOW THE ROLE ÃTHIS WITH THIS ROLLBACK RATES WITH THE CLICK AND OUR PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES THAT STAFF HAS PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION THAT THEY WILL CONSIDER TODAY ARE TO MAINTAIN IF YOU LOOK ACROSS FROM THE ADOPTED TO THE PROPOSED.

FLAT MILLAGE RATES FOR FY 24. AND THAT IS TO PROPOSE MOTION WOULD BE TO ÃÃAND I'M GOING TO LOOK TO DAVID AT OCA. DO I NEED TO READ THOSE MILLAGE RATES IN?

>> THAT'S ONLY REQUIRED AT THE SEPTEMBER HEARINGS UNDER THE LAW.

>> I GUESS THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES THAT ARE IN THAT FINAL

COLUMN. >> THANKS MR. DUNN. WE WILL SEE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.> AT THIS TIME, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL HEAR FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON

THIS ADDITIONAL ITEM FOR. >> I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

JESSE ÃÃON THE THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM ÃÃREMIND ME ON THE BEACH DUNE AND BEACH RESTORATION STU ÃÃTHAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE YET TO SET A NUMBER OF PRESENTED TO STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING AS A NUMBER TO CONSIDER AND THAT IS WHY THAT IS NOT.

>> THAT IS ACCURATE. AT THIS POINT THERE IS NO MILLAGE ASSOCIATED ON THE BEACH IN JUNE AND RESTORATION. THE PROJECT IS THERE AND ANY ASSOCIATED MILLAGE AT THIS

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POINT HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED. >> BUT THE STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT.

THEY CAN COME TO US CERTAINLY IF NOT BY OCTOBER 1. BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR ÃÃIT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL HAVE ÃÃPROBABLY HAVE TO ADOPT AN ASSESSMENT BY OCTOBER 1.

>> ÃÃMY UNDERSTANDING AND I WILL RESEARCH THIS.UT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PROJECT MAY MOVE FORWARD IN THIS NEXT YEAR. THAT THE MILLAGE WILL BE

ESTABLISHED FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. >> OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR SO WE KNEW WHAT WE'RE DOING. I LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH DOLLARS.

[LAUGHTER] >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO DO I. THANK YOU VICE

CHAIR. >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HAVE PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. WELCOME BACK! GOOD MORNING JEN LUMBER.

>> 291 CAMBRIDGE ROAD. I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE IN THE PLANT FUNDING COULD FOR THE FIRST YEAR THE LEFT PROGRAM, THEY WILL SEVER APPLICATION SUBMITTED THE PROJECTS TOTALING 500 ACRES WITH A PRICE TAG OF OVER $17 MILLION.

WHICH REALLY DEMONSTRATES THE SCOPE OF NEED FOR MORE DOLLARS FOR LAND CONSERVATION.

SO ÃÃI REALLY APPRECIATE THE INCREASE THIS YEAR.T'S VERY SELDOM THAT I GET TO ADVOCATE FOR AN ITEM HAND AND HAND WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.

THEY DID ALSO SUBMIT A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE FUNDING INCREASE FOR $2 MILLION.

I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE AND THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CONSERVATION COMMUNITY AND

TAKING ACTION. MUCH GRATITUDE. >> SOME MIGHT CALL THAT AN UNHOLY ALLIANCE. [LAUGHTER]

NOT ME! >> EVERYONE.

>> NOT YOU COMMISSIONER. [LAUGHTER] >> ANY FURTHER, ON THE AGENDA END. SEEING DONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> WE ARE WAITING FOR MISSIONARY JOSEPH TO COME BACK. WHEN THANK YOU MR. DUNN.

YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF STANDING PON YOUR HEAD AND DANCING AND TWISTS AND TURNS.

WE GOT TO DO A LOT DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE AND YOU HAVE SAID YES TO EVERYTHING.

AND I KNOW WE CANNOT DO THIS EVERY YEAR. I'M WORRIED THAT MONEY DOES NOT GROW ON TREES AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DEMAND ON US FROM THE TAXPAYER TO GET THINGS DONE IN THIS COUNTY NEAR AND YOU ARE AWARE. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THESE THINGS HAPPEN. I KNOW AGAIN WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR.

AND I APPRECIATE THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD FOR MR. DUNN OR STAFF? I THINK WE ARE READY FOR A

MOTION. >> I WILL MOVE ÃÃHELP ME OUT DAVID.

YOU ONLY DO THIS ONCE A YEAR JESSE. SO REMIND ME TO HAVE TO READ THESE NUMBERS OR CAN WE JUST MAKE A MOTION APPROVING THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES ON

WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN? >> I THINK WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN ÃÃYOU ARE AT THE LADDER.

WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO READ EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL MILLAGE RATES.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THAT WILL BE AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE END.

>> WILL MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE THAT IS IDENTIFIED ON THE OVERHEAD BEFORE US. FOR THE COMING FISCAL 2024 YEAR.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?LEASE VOTE. >> ALL RIGHT, THE MILLAGE RATES ARE APPROVED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. AND IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER MOTION

OF APPROVAL?>> ONE MORE MOTION? >> I WILL TAKE A CRACK AT IT.

WILL MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE COMPLETION AND EXECUTION OF FISCAL YEAR 2024.

TR 420 IS BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHAT THE IMPROVED PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES AND ESTABLISHMENT OF THE SEPTEMBER 5, 2023 AND 5:01 PM IN THE COUNTY AUDITORIUM IS THE FIRST

[8. Interim County Administrator Employment Agreement.]

PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONS FISCAL

YEAR 2024 BUDGET. >> SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. SECOND BIKE COMMISSIONER LIMA. THESE VOTE.

>> ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. >> OKAY, WE ARE ONTO AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MR. MAYHEW? >> EIGHT.

>> FIVE. [LAUGHTER]

>> GOODNESS GRACIOUS. [LAUGHTER]

>> BACKWARDS. [LAUGHTER]

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. DAVID MAY GET HERE TO PRESENT THE POSTEMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT TO THE POST COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. AT THE LAST MEETING YOU DELEGATED THE AUTHORITY TO ME WITH THE INTERCOUNTY ADMINISTRATOR PROPOSED AGREEMENT.HE LANGUAGE IN YOUR PACKET BUT LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THE LAST TIME WE HIRED AN INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS IN DECEMBER 2019. SO IT WAS WITH IN THE PAST FOUR

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YEARS. BASED ON THAT ÃÃWE STARTED MS. ANDREWS AND I STARTED WITH THE PROPOSED CONTRACT CONTRACT FROM 2019 AS A TEMPLATE. THE MARKET HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN. WE CAME TO A PROPOSED ANNUAL BASIS SALARY OF $237,000 AND ALL OTHER ITEMS INCIDENTAL ITEMS BENEFITS RELATED ISSUES STATE THE EXACT SAME FROM THE PREVIOUS TERM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CONTRACT IN 2019. THIS CONTRACT WILL BE FOR ABOUT 9220 DAYS I WOULD GUESS. AND THEN IT WILL TERMINATE ONCE WE HIRE A PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SO THIS IS A SHORT-TERM CONTRACT.

TO ADDRESS YOU KNOW ÃÃTHE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I CAN GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON ANY OF THOSE ASPECTS. BUT AGAIN, THIS CONTRACT WILL ONLY BE IN EFFECT FOR 90Ä20 DAYS APPROXIMATELY.HIS BOARD WILL HIRE A PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR LATER THIS YEAR.

AND THEN I WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU SHORTLY AFTER WITH A PROPOSED CONTRACT FOR THE PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH WOULD BE A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT FROM THIS.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW?

OR, TO PUBLIC, PICK. >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER EIGHT. >> EIGHT AND NOT FIVE. >> EIGHT, NOT FIVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING FAST.

[LAUGHTER] >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

BJ COLLETTI WEST OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

AND READING THE CONTRACT ÃÃ THE FIRST ONE IS IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. DAVID SAID ÃJUST THE 237,000 SALARY IS BASED ON 2019 OR IS IT BASED ON INFLATION? ALSO IN THE CONTRACT ÃÃMS. ANDREWS WILL BE DOING $700 A MONTH OF CAR ALLOWANCE.

HAS THAT BEEN GIVEN TO HER IN THE PAST OR IS THAT JUST PART OF BEING AN INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR? AND ALSO ÃÃDOES ANYONE HAVE A TOTAL AMOUNT ÃÃWHICH THIS AGREEMENT WILL PROVIDE FOR HER AND ALSO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE HERE RIGHT NOW ÃÃ AND ALSO TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S OFFICE.

CAN SOMEONE AND MR. DAVID ÃÃ HOPEFULLY ANSWER TO THE GENTLEMAN IS SITTING OVER WITH MR. BRAD AND MS. TAYLOR? SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL NOT DO IS NOW THERE UNDER MS. ANDREWS? TO CONTINUE UNTIL THE 9200 DAYS IS HAPPENING? AND THEN IF MS. ANDREWS IS THE NEW ADMINISTRATOR ÃTESCO THAT'S JUST THE 237,000 BE CHANGED? AND IS THIS LIKE A RAISE? AND THEN STAFF IS GOING TO GET ANOTHER RAISE IN OCTOBER? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY CLARIFICATIONS ON THAT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC OKAY? BUT THANK YOU. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS GENTLEMAN AND EVERYBODY'S HERE.

ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE STREAMING SHOULD KNOW ALL THE PEOPLE WE'VE GOT WORKING FOR US.

THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU MISS DELANEY. >> GREAT QUESTIONS.

CAN I ANSWER? >> REDONE THE PUBLIC COMMENT? ET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY OF THE PUBLIC, FOR WE ÃÃANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT?

SING NONE ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] >> CAN ANSWER THIS? THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS. THE PUBLIC MIGHT BE WONDERING WHAT IS GOING ON INTERNALLY AND SINCE JORDAN CAME AND AS THE ADMINISTRATOR ÃÃTHE DAY AFTER JOY BECAME INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR ÃÃSHE TOOK SWIFT AND GOOD ACTION. SHE PROMOTED AND BJ TEST TEST THIS IS COLIN CROFT SITTING HERE. COLIN GROFF?OLIN ESTES CO LIN GROFF GROFF. HE HAS BEEN UP UNTIL SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, THE DIRECTOR OF OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. HE IS A LONG HISTORY OF EXCELLENT WORK AT JDA CLAY COUNTY AND ONE OF THE LARGER COMMUNITIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA. I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO HIS EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE. UPON THE APPOINTMENT. AND JOY WAS APPOINTED INTERIM.

IMMEDIATELY THE NEXT DAY MOVED COLIN FROM UTILITIES ERECTOR INTO A SYSTEM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FILLING HER VOID THAT SHE MOVED UP FROM. ON THAT SAME DAY, SHE ALSO

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PROMOTED BILL SANDRA TO INTERIM UTILITIES DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. UNDER OUR POLICIES AND INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR CANNOT MAKE PERMANENT APPOINTMENTS UNDER OUR COUNTY POLICY.

SO ÃTHIS OUR INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR APPOINTED COLIN AS INTERIM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND NEIL ASSISTANT INTERIM UTILITIES DIRECTOR.

SO ÃÃTHAT IS WHY HE IS SITTING THERE AND I THOUGHT I SAW A MEAL SOMEWHERE ÃÃDID HE LEAVE? OKAY. SO ÃÃTHAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> SO ÃÃMS. KLEIN HE BROUGHT UP THE OTHER ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND I BROUGHT IT UP DURING MY MEETING. SO ÃÃIF SHE BECOMES THE ADMINISTRATOR ÃÃTHAT IS ONE THING. IF SHE DOESN'T ÃÃTHAT'S SORT OF LOOK AT THE MOTION AND YOU KNOW ÃÃI DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING IS CAN HAPPEN, BUT WHAT HAPPENS? I JUST ÃÃDOES SHE GO BACK TO WHERE SHE WAS?

>> IN TERMS OF THIS CONTRACT Ã ÃTHIS CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE ON A NEW ADMINISTRATOR IS APPOINTED PER THE CONTRACT WOULD NO LONGER APPLY TO HER. IF SHE IS ÃÃIF HE CHOOSES TO APPLY FOR AND DOES BECOME THE PERMANENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ÃÃWE WOULD NEGOTIATE A NEW CONTRACT WITH HER AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE ON THE TABLE.

THE BOARD WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT. IF SHE IS NOT CHOOSING ÃÃ CHOSEN COULD ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE HIRED AND FIRED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

SO ÃÃTHAT WOULD BE UP TO WHOEVER THE NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS.

SO OBVIOUSLY ÃÃTHEY WILL WORK WELL WITH THE BOARD ASKED IF THERE'S A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE ÃÃI WOULD GUESS AND HOPE THAT MS. ANDREWS WOULD BE A LONG TIME PART OF THIS

COUNTY. >> WAS NOT EVEN GO THERE. LET'S SAY IT'S UP TO THE NEW

COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. >> THAT'S THE ONLY ANSWER I

WANTED. I'M NOT TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT. >> WE DON'T NEED A LEAK IN THE DISCUSSION WHEN THE ANSWER IS THAT IT'S ÃÃIF THE NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMES IN ÃÃTHEN HE'S IN THE PERMANENT POSITION AND WE WILL PROGRESS ALL THOSE THREE ISSUES THAT WE DISCUSSED.

[3. Motion to adopt Resolution 2023-____, approving the transfer of $166,870.00 in park impact fee credits from the Marshall Creek PUD to the Ravenswood Village Workforce Housing Development finding the request consistent with Florida Statute.]

FURTHER DISCUSSION ÃÃI AM READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT, MS. ANDREWS?

>> SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD AND COMMISSIONER LIMA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT PASSES 5Ä. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE ÃÃWHICH IS FROM THE CONSENT ITEM NUMBER THREE.

GOOD MORNING MS. BRADY. >> GOOD MORNING TEST TEST COMMERCIAL REALTY 10175 FORTUNE PARKWAY. FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE TO SAY IF COLIN IS HALF AS GOOD IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION OFFICE AS HE WAS IN UTILITIES ÃÃI WILL BE ECSTATIC.

HE IS AMAZING. HE ANSWERED CALLS. HE IS A PROBLEM SOLVER.

I LOVE IT. BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT BRIEF MEETING, I LIKE TO KEEP IT BRIEF. SO ÃÃI WILL NOT TEST TEST OF GOT PLENTY TO SAY IF NECESSARY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY AND FIND OUT WHY IT WAS PULLED IN THE I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

>> SURE. I'VE PULLED THIS BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT OF FEE FROM PARKS AND RECREATION OF THE MARSHALL CREEK AND IT'S GOING TO BE GIVEN OVER LINES OUT OF THAT AREA AND IT WOULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER IMPACT FEES TRADES AND I'M NOT COMFORTABLE

DOING THAT. >> YES. I UNDERSTAND.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW JAN TRENT THEM DID ADDRESS THAT WITH ME. THERE WAS A ANOTHER PROJECT AS WELL THAT WAS PART OF THIS PACKAGE. I DID PULL THAT BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE THE NEXUS THE WAY THAT I DO THIS ONE. SO WHAT I DID WAS A DRIVETIME ANALYSIS. BASED ON WHAT THE PARK PASS. O I LOOKED UP ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. THE OTHER PARKS THAT HAVE SIMILAR AMENITIES.

AND THE OTHER PARKS ÃÃSOME ME ÃÃLET ME PUT MY GLASSES BACK ON.

SO ÃTEST THE DRIVETIME FROM THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION TO GET TO POINTS OUT WAS 11 MINUTE DRIVE TIME PER GOOGLE MAPS. TO GET TO TREE PARK. IT WAS 18Ä9 MINUTES.

AND THEN TO GET IT TO RON PARKER PARK WAS 18Ö1 MINUTES. >> WHAT TIME OF THE DAY WAS THAT? [LAUGHTER]

>> WE DID FROM ALL RACES. >> AND KIDDING. >> THOSE OTHER TWO PARKS HAVE SIMILAR AMENITIES. AND THEY ARE IN THE SAME IMPACT FEES OWN AS THIS PROJECT.

SO ÃÃBECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS FAIRLY NORTH OF THE IMPACT FEES OWN ÃÃIT IS A SHORTER DRIVE.

AND PEOPLE TEND TO MAKE THEIR CHOICES AMENITIES BEING THE SAME BY THE DRIVETIME.

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SO.> IS THIS FUNDING GOING TO ANOTHER AMENITY PARK AMENITIES OR SOMETHING

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT? >> NO, THIS MONEY IS THE PARK FOR PLENTY OF WAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. THEY GOT THE CREDITS. AND SO ÃÃTHE CREDITS ARE BEING USED BY RAVENSWOOD.ELP MAKE ITS WORKFORCE HOUSING NUMBERS WORK BETTER.

>> I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR PARK MONEY.

WHICH IS WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IMPACT FEE FOR AND IT'S IN THE AREA.

IT'S STILL A LEGAL ISSUE. THAT HAS TO NOT BE THAT FAR AWAY I THINK.

IS THAT CHRISTINE ÃÃIS THERE IN THE SUN. >> THE FLORIDA IMPACT FEE STATUTE ÃTHIS ONE LOOKING AT TRANSFERS IMPACT FEE CREDITS BETWEEN ZONES DOES ALLOW THE BOARD TO ANALYZE WHETHER THE NEW PROJECT RECEIVES A BENEFIT FROM THE PROJECT THAT CREATED

THE CREDITS. >> I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT AGAIN IT SETS A PRECEDENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOT SEE THE MONEY LEAVE THE PARK. IMPACT PURPOSE.

THAT'S ALL. >> ONLY TIME I CAN REALLY SPEAK TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS IS NOW AND TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE IT'S A SORT OF A DIFFERENT ÃÃ THIS NOT THE REGULAR IMPACT

FEE.T'S DIFFERENT. >> WELL ÃÃI WILL SAY SINCE I'M THE ONE BRINGING THESE FORWARDAND I'VE BEEN BROKERING THESE IMPACT FEES ÃÃI WILL NOT BRING ONE FORWARD THAT I DO NOT FEEL LIKE MEETS THE NEXUS AND THAT'S WHY IT TOOK AND TROTTED OFF.

IT JUST DID NOT MEET TO ME WHAT THE LAW STATES. AND THEN JUST TO FURTHER STATE AND I'VE GOT A LEGAL THING HERE. THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE DOES NOT LOOK AT EACH IMPACT FEE ZONE ON ITS OWN.

IT LOOKS AT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. AND THAT'S WHY THE FEES ARE THE SAME AND EACH CATEGORY. SO TEST US BE GO TO MOBILITY FEE ÃÃAND EACH ONE IS LOOKED AT AND IT'S DIFFERENT. IT'S LITERALLY WRITTEN BY IN THE NECKLACE REPORT.

THE COUNTY IS LOOKED AT AS A WHOLE AND IT SAYS ANYTHING THAT IS DONE BENEFITS THE OVERALL COUNTY. JUST FOR WHAT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HAS APPROVED NOW AND I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE THOSE THINGS. SO ÃÃTHAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT. ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE ÃÃIT IS A SHORTER DRIVE BY 7Å MINUTES TO GO TO THIS PART. SO ÃÃI DID FEEL LIKE IT WAS

APPROPRIATE. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD?

PUT YOUR PUBLIC, PUT. >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER NINE. >> GOOD MORNING. >> TOMORROW.

BJ CLICK WEST OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. HELLO MR. GROFF.

[LAUGHTER] HOW ARE YOU DOING? [LAUGHTER] IS TO MEET YOU.

[LAUGHTER] >> I'M CONCERNED TO ABOUT THE TRANSFER OF THESE FUNDS FROM PARK TO PARK. I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE IMPACT FEE AND I KNOW AND I JUST WONDER HOW PEOPLE REMEMBER BECAUSE I CANNOT REMEMBER ALL THIS STUFF.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT! BUT I REMEMBERED EARLIER THAT WE FORGOT TO DO SOMETHING HERE.

AND WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS INSTEAD OF FORWARDS. SO WE ARE ALL HUMAN.

BECAUSE LAST ÃÃI THINK AT THE LAST MEETING ÃÃTHERE WAS ANOTHER SWITCH OFF FOR PARK.

AND I DID GET JUSTICE AND ADMIT THAT I'M DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO.

TO READ THE IMPACT THE LANGUAGE WHICH INCLUDED THESE PARKS ÃÃ THIS WAS LIKE A SURPRISE TO ME.

AND I'M GLAD THAT PEOPLE ARE COMMISSIONERS ÃÃYOU ARE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS.

AND REALLY INSANE BECAUSE SOME OF YOU GOT A LOT OF MONEY. NO ONE BERGER HAS A LOT OF MONEY. SO THEY SWITCH AROUND BEHIND AND NOBODY CAN DO THEIR THING.

'M GONNA HAVE TO DO MY RESEARCH AND MAYBE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

BECAUSE IT WAS A SURPRISE WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST MEETING. AND I DID APPRECIATE THE STAFF THAT GAVE ME THE DOCUMENT SO I CAN GO AND STUDY IT SOME MORE. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS HAPPENING MORE AND MORE NOT FOR PARKS.AS YOU ARE DOING FOR IMPACT FEES FOR THE TRANSPORTATION TO. SO ÃÃI HAVE THAT UNDER CONTROL.UT NOW THIS IS PART OF IT. SO ÃÃHAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL I THINK.

AND PARKS ARE IMPORTANT. SO TEST US WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS ÃÃ AND NOT SO MUCH FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

THANK YOU. >> THINKING WAS CLEANING. ANY ADDITIONAL, PER AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER NINE? >> WE ARE NOT CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY, SORRY. I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNEW THIS WAS A LITTLE

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DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT 100 PERCENT DEVELOPER OWNED.

43.6 PERCENT OF THE FUNDS ACTUALLY GET PAID DIRECTLY TO THE CDD.

SO ÃÃTHE RESIDENTS OF 1C IT DO BENEFIT AS WELL. >> THE AGREEMENT WAS WRITTEN THAT WAY. WHEN IT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

>> YES-MAN.NY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

I RECOMMEND WE HAVE A MOTION? >> COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION

2023. >> 284? >> APPROVING THE TRANSFER OF 166,000 $870 AND PART IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM THE MARSHALL CREEK PUD TO THE RAVENSWOOD VILLAGE WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. PLANNING TO REQUEST CONSISTENT

[15. Motion to adopt Resolution 2023- , approving the terms and authorizing the County Administrator, or designee, to execute a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the acquisition of approximately 46 acres of land located off A1A South for conservation, approving a transfer of LAMP reserves up to $225,000 for the purchase of the property and accepting a donation of the contiguous 2.8 acres.]

WITH FLORIDA STATUTE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN TESTA SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE CAST THE VOTE.

AND THAT PASSES 4Ä. WE ARE ONTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

WHICH IS FORMALLY CONTENT ITEM NUMBER 15. AND THEN WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA. SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10?

>>. >> MORNING CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING DIRECTOR. AGENDA ITEM 10, WHICH IS AN 15 IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, MARCH 30 BOARD MEETING DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING APPRAISALS AND GOING INTO NEGOTIATIONS AND THE APPROVED LIST. THERE WERE FIVE PROPERTIES ON THAT LIST. STAFF PROCEEDED TO GET APPRAISALS GOING INTO NEGOTIATIONS. AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU NOW IS ONE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS AND PERSONS IN SALES AGREEMENT. IT IS A PROPERTY THE MAP OF ITS ANASTASIA.

IN THE FISH ISLAND AREA. AND COMMISSIONER HAS ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO

ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND CONTENT ITEMS. >> YES.

I PULLED THIS NOT TO BE CRITICAL OF IT ÃÃBUT I NEEDED THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ÃÃ THEIR IDEAS AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROPERTY ÃÃSO ÃÃWHEN WE FIRST GOT THE LIST, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA COME BACK AND THE COMMISSIONERS WERE GOING TO PICK WHICH ONE.

AND OR DO WE WANT THESE PROPERTIES TO BE ABLE TO USE RECREATION LIKE WALK THROUGH IT? YOU KNOW TEST IS PHYSICALLY OR THESE PROPERTIES BUILDER PROPERTIES THAT WE WANTED TO BUY SO THAT THEY DO NOT BUILD OUT?

THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AND I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. >> YES SIR?

>> I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF. BUT HAVING BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE LINK PROGRAM SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION ÃÃAND KNOWING A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY. THINK THE LINK PROGRAM IS AIMED MORE DIRECTLY AT OPEN SPACES TO BE PURCHASED BY THE COUNTY FOR PROVIDING MORE OPEN SPACE WITH MAYBE WHAT WE CALL PASSIVE PARKS. HIKING, KAYAKING, WE HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE PROGRAM IF YOU WILL NOT DIRECTING WITH PARKS AND CAPITOL PROJECTS NOW THE REPRESENTS PROBABLY ABOUT 70 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THREE AND REGIONAL IMPROVEMENT PARK IMPROVEMENTS. BUT THE LINK PROCESS AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM STEPH OR ANYONE ELSE MORE OF SMALL PARKS. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ÃÃWE DID NOT HAVE $70 MILLION. WE HAVE 2 MILLION THIS COMING YEAR AND AND A HALF MILLION THIS YEAR. DOES THAT HELP GIVE YOU MY VIEW ANYONE?

>> YES, I KNOW THIS IS PRETTY WET, RIGHT? NO ONE CAN REALLY USE THIS