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>> STAND FOR THE PLEDGE, PLEASE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT >> MR. VICE CHAIR, WE NEED THE PUBLIC NOTICE PLEASE.
>> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE PREMISE OF FLORIDA LAW. PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE P AND Z AREA OF JURISDICTION. WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AND IT IS NEEDED TIME DURING THE MEETING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIGNED TO SPEAK NEEDS TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
SPEAKER CARDS TO BE TURNED INTO STAFF.PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM FOR A LENGTH OF TIME THAT IS DESIGNATED BYTHE CHAIRMAN . SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT AND STATE THE ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OF THE TEST MONEY. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE SAME SUSPICION WILL BE WILL NEED TO ENSURE THE VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDS IS MADE. WHICH RECORD INCLUDES TEST WHEN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEALS WOULD BE BASED. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENT EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR THE COUNTY FOR ANY APPEAL FOR THE RELATED ITEM. MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THE END OF EACH ITEM THE STATE WHETHER THEY HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE OF THE HEARING OF THE BOARD.
IF SUCH COMMUNICATION OCCURRED WHENEVER SHOULD I DEFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED IN THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION. CIVILITY CLAUSE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS AND AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.
>> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE MINUTES IN FRONT OF YOU FOR APRIL 21, 2022, AUGUST 18, 2022, MAY 4, 2023, MAY 18 2023.
>> FIRST BY HENRY SECOND BY JACK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> THOSE OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AS WE HEAR EACH ITEM TODAY FOR
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PERIOD OF PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH ITEM. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA OR SIC YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL YOUR ITEM COMES UP. DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE WILL MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER ONE I WILL ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS IF THERE'S ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA --. APPEARED ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR MY RESTROOM ON US HIGHWAY HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.THIS IS A SNIPPET OF MY WEBSITE THIS WILL BE OUR 11TH LOCATION. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE BUILDING AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALMOST DONE I THINK PROBABLY THE PRIEST ONE WE HAVE. IT'S THE SAME BUILDING THAT HAD
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HOME VALLEY BUT THIS WILL HAS A LOT MORE ROOM INCLUDED IN THE BACK IS PRETTY AREA.HERE IS THE FLOOR CHART FOR US. AGAIN, WE ARE REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO SERVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES UNDER THE COP LICENSE THAT HAS AN INSIDE. ONE THING ABOUT THIS RESTAURANT AND BAR WE ARE FAMILY ORIENTED. THE FACT THAT WERE SERVING ALCOHOL IS JUST A COUPLE HUNDRED TO WHAT WE DO. THE ENTIRE INCLUSIVE PLAY AREA IN THE BACK.
THERE'S IS THE EXACT LOCATION THE PARCEL IS NORTH OF THE AIRPORT.
ZONING MAP. AND AGAIN THIS WILL BE OUR 11TH LOCATION WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN WHAT WE PUT IN AND WHAT WE ARE INVOLVED WITH. WE CAN'T WAIT OPEN THERE.
OPERATIONS IN THEIR, AGAIN, OUR CONCEPT THE BAR PROGRAM IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IT'S NOT THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD. IT'S MEANT TO BE CUSTOMARY TO THE AREA.
THE FOCUS IS PIZZA. THERE IS OUR MENU. AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
>> ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, RICHARD.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE AND LOOKS LIKE A GREAT RESTAURANT. I NOTICED SOME CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU AND COUNTY STAFF ABOUT SUNDAY NOT SERVING ALCOHOL UNTIL 1 O'CLOCK.SO YOU'RE FULLY AWARE THAT?
>> DEBORAH. DEBORAH. EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTION, I CANNOT CLEAR THE SCREEN. ANYMORE SPEAKER CARDS?
>> I WILL LOOK FOR EMOTION. NOT A VOTE, A MOTION.
>> I AM READY TO MAKE ONE. SAME THING I HAVE GOT GOING ON HERE.
YES, REQUEST [INAUDIBLE] MOTION TO APPROVE SUPMAJ 2023 - FIVE V PIZZA 5700 US HIGHWAY NORTH.
CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED BY STAFF.
>> MOTION BY HENRY SECOND BY ELVIS, ANY DISCUSSION? WE HELD SEVERAL FAMILY EVENTS THANK YOU FOR SUPPLYING A GREAT PLACE.SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO BOATS ON HERE WITH
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NO NAMES. SOMEBODY VOTED NO AND SOMEONE VOTED YES.THE CHINESE AFFECT OUR SYSTEM. THIS MOTION PASSES 5-0, TWO BOATS WE ARE NOT COUNTING.
>> GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, TOO. AS WE PASSED THAT TO THE COUNTY.
>> LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO. MR. REYNA AND MR. (NAME?).
>> MY NAME IS SERGIO REYNA I HAVE THE BAKERY.
>> ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION? NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> BAKERY CRAVINGS AND MORE BAKERY, 4010 US ONE S. AND WE HAVE MR. BRIAN WITH US OUR MANAGER. REQUESTING FOR A SPECIAL FOR WINE AND BEER.
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THIS IS THE LOCATION 4010 US ONE S.. IN THE PLAZA.>> SIR, COULD YOU ALSO GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> BRIAN QUINLAN THE MANAGER OF CRAVINGS AND MORE.
>> 4010 US ONE S.. SO THIS IS THE GENERAL USE FOR COMMERCIAL ON THE US ONE SOUTH.
THIS IS OUR FLOOR PLAN. WE HAVE 44 SEATS. THE HOURS HAVE CHANGED WE ARE OPEN FROM 7 O'CLOCK TO 3 O'CLOCK.
>> ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, SIR? OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS? RICHARD.
>> I HAVE ONE AND IT MIGHT BE MORE OR STAFF. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COP TO AN COMP FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SERVE BEER AND WINE NOT ON SUNDAY IS THAT CORRECT? SO AT 7 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
>> WE ARE NOT PLANNING THAT, N .
>> I WOULDN'T MIND THAT BUT IT JUST REMINDS ME OF A CHRIS CHRISTOPHERSON SONG.
>> WE ARE OPEN 7 O'CLOCK TO 3 O'CLOCK.
>> SOUNDS GOOD, OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. JACK.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT 2023-04 CRAVINGS AND MORE BAKERY FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS ALLOWED.
>> MOTION BY JACK SECOND BY HENRY, ANY DISCUSSION?
>> IF I MAY, BEFORE YOU VOTE. REP, ABOUT BEING OPEN 7-3, NUMBER FOUR SAYS 7-5, 7 AM TO 5 PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGE .
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>> FLEXIBILITY TO OPEN 7-5. LEAVE IT 7-5 IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU?
>> THE MOTION STANDS. THE SECOND STANCE. THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0.
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. PRESENTATION FROM JOSEPH EDDIE. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION FOR NUMBER THREE? OKAY.
>> HI MY NAME IS JOSEPH EDDIE 290 SOUTH BOULEVARD I AM PRESIDENT OF GE PROPERTIES WE ARE BUSTED BASED COMPANY WE HAVE 30,000 APARTMENTS FROM BOSTON TO HERE IN FLORIDA.
STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE WERE ASKING FOR VARIANCE TO PLAY ON A SPORTS COURT IN AN UNUSED PARKING. WE WANT TO GO TO GLOBE WHAT WE HAVE DONE KIND OF A SENSE OR THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST. WE BOUGHT WOODLAND TERRACE BEER AND HAVE AGO IT WAS IF NOT ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIMARY AND ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IT IS 76 UNIT PORTABLE HOUSING
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PROPERTY. WE HAVE BEEN DOING HORRIBLE HOUSING PERSON.COMPANY FOR 52 YEARS AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE FOUND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO STABILIZE THE COMMUNITY TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE A PLACE PEOPLE WANT TOLIVE .
PA SAFE PLACE PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE IT HOME. SO WE HAVE DONE ALL THESE REPAIRS JUST TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THE PROPERTY USED TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE.
SO JUST THERE'S ALL KINDS OF EROSION ISSUES YOU AFTER THREE DIFFERENT EASEMENTS ONTHE PROPERTY . IT CUTS IT UP AND REALLY WASN'T URBAN CONCRETE JUNGLE WE HAVE LANDSCAPING AND REPLACED ROOFS. JUST AGAIN THE BEFORE AND AFTER IT WAS FALLING APART.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE NOTICED WAS PEOPLE KIDS PLAYING LITERALLY ON THIS HORRIBLE THAT SAINT THEY WERE PLAYING FOOTBALL. OUR IDEA IS WE HAVE 79 PARKING SPACES. BASICALLY, WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF PASSES TO EACH RESIDENT WITH 24, 25 RESIDENTS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE PASSES FOR 34 STATES THAT ARE BEING USED.
79, 24 SPACES SO WE HAVE 55 REMAINING. I WILL DISCUSS QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE BEFORE AND AFTER IN THE AREA WE ARE DOING. THIS THE INSIDE OF THE BEFORE AND AFTER OF THE APARTMENTS. AND THE SYSTEM OF THINGS WERE DOING -- THIS IS A LITTLE SKETCH FROM SOUTH DAYTONA THAT BUILDING DISPLAY AREA FOR US THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS A LITTLE AREA AS WELL AS THE SURVEY GOING TO ZOOM IN HERE JUST TO THE NORTH THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WEST AUGUSTINE THERE IS A SITE ON THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
KING STREET IS JUST NORTH OF THAT. JUST SOUTH OF THAT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. ENTRANCE ONE OF THREE ENTRANCES WE HAVE.
WE HAVE SOME PARKING THERE AND THAT KIND OF HASHED KIND OF AREA IS WHAT WERE LOOKING TO PUT A SPORTS COURT .-- IT SUMS UP FOR THE MOST PART WHAT WERE TRYING TO DO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? RICHARD.
>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THE BUILDING?
>> WE APPRECIATE YOU FIXING IT UP SO NICE.
>> IT'S A LOT OF WORK QUITE FRANKLY MORE THAN WEBARGAINED FOR .
WE BOUGHT IT DURING COVID IN THE PREVIOUS OWNER TOOK US ALMOST A YEAR TO CLOSE IT BECAUSE OF THE COVID THINGS. IT WAS EVEN WORSE SHAPE THAN IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO.
>> NOW THAT IT'S FIXED UP WE BE ISSUING MORE PARKING PERMITS THAN YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? IN OUR ITEM IT SAID 38 IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID 35. RIGHT NOW ARE THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR WITH CARS?
>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THE ANSWER IS NO, ACTUALLY IT HAS GONE DOWN A LITTLE.
THE DEFENSE OF OUR RESIDENT BASE AND THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE CONSULTATION AT ALL.
I DO THINK THEIR USAGE IS LIGHT IT'S ABOUT HALF A SPACE. UNIT.
USUALLY YOU SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE HIGHER PER FAMILY PROPERTIES.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING TRACK I HAVE A SPREADSHEET FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND I THINK THE HIGHEST IS NINE. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION BUT YEAH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF VACANT UNITS NOW BUT IT'S FULL IT'S AT FULL OCCUPANCY.
>> I AM CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST A RECREATIONAL AREA I THINK THAT'SCOMMENDABLE.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD .
>> I HAVE A COUPLE. DO YOU HAVE A LAURA ON THIS?
>> WE HAVE A FLORIDA HOUSING, WE HAVE HOME FUNDS ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S LIKE 40+ YEARS.
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THEN WE HAVE AN A CONTRACT WITH HUD.>> FOR THOSE WHO THEY DON'T KNOW IS LAURA IS A LAND-USE RESTRICTION.
>> SOME, OUR LOWEST IS 50 PERCENT AMI. THE WAY PROPERTY WORKS IS EVERYONE WINS. EVERY UNIT EXCEPT FOR ONE HAS A POD CONTRACT ON IT WHICH MEANS EVERYONE IT'S 30 PERCENT OF THEIR INCOME. I DON'T HAVE TOTAL DETAILS ON THE PAYMENTS PER RESIDENT. FOREXAMPLE , SOMEONE WHO MAKES $1000 WILL TAKE 300 WHICH IS A FABULOUS DEAL.
>> IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THERE'S AN ONGOING AND NEED EXTRA FIVE SPACES IS AN AREA YOU CAN USE?
>> YEAH, I GUESS. WE WILL HAVE SOME UPSET KIDS, WE COULD FIND A COUPLE SPACES.
IT IS A TIGHT SITE. WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A PARKING SITUATION THAT'S NOT OUR GOAL. OVER THE LAST YEAR AND HALF WHAT I SAID EARLIER WE ARE SURPRISED THE PARKING USE IS AT .7 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS NEAR THE TOWN OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
>> ALL RIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? ANY SPEAKER CARDS?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, CAN WORK, KEN WARD, I LOOK AT THE APARTMENTS.
PHYSICALLY I WENT THIS MORNING MYSELF TO ALL THREE LOTS. THERE IS 76 UNITS APARTMENTS IS ONLY 57 SPOTS I COUNTED EVERY ONE OF THEM TWICE. THE FIGURE OF SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. I HAVE BEEN THERE ALMOST 2 YEARS NOW AND THE PARKING IS HORRENDOUS. WE JUST HAD THE LANDSCAPING THING DONE THERE. YOU CALL THAT TOWING BEHIND THE JAIL SO THEY BLOCKED OFF LOT 1 FOR THE RECREATION AREA SO EVERYONE HAD TO PARKING AND THREE SO BEFORE COMING TWO OR 3 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND HAD TO PARK WITH THE CURVE IS IN THE YELLOW THEIR CAR GOT TOWED BY THE TOWING COMPANY. DURING THIS TIME THROUGH THE BEAUTIFICATION PROCESS THEY CAN VERIFY THAT WITH ASAP TOWING. IF YOU COMMENT THEY TELL YOUR CAR AND THEY SWITCHED THE WORK AREA TO LOT NUMBER ONE YOU MOVE OVER THERE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PARKING.
ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING ANYONE IS WORRIED ABOUT GETTING KICKED OUT.
SO MY CONCERN IS IF YOU PUT THAT UP THERE THE AREA WHERE THEY ARE TALKING BUT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY SPOTS. I TOOK PICTURES, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH MY PHONE I TOOK PICTURES OF THE NEW HANDICAP SPOT THERE WAS NO HANDICAP SIGN PUT UP YESTERDAY OVER THE WEEKEND GUESS WAS IN THEMIDDLE OF THEIR , A PILEOF MOLES . THAT'S HANDICAP SPOT.
SO WHEN YOU PULL UP THERE'S A HANDICAP TO WHITE LINES AND I THINK A LITTLE OF IT IS BEEN THERE FOR OVER A MONTH. THOSE SPOTS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TAKING UP AND DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PARK. HERE YOU GOT PEOPLE WITH 30 PERCENT INCOME AND WHEN YOU GET YOUR CAR TOWED FROM WOODLAWN THE POLICE FROM ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT'S PREDATORY. THESE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO GET THE CAR OUT.
IN ONE NIGHT THE GUY TOOK 13 CARS OUT OF THERE. THESE PEOPLE ARE CHARGING 200-225 TO GET THE CAR OUT OF IMPACT, WE'RE WHY? BECAUSE THE FIRST LOT WAS PART BLOCKED OFF. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE FIGURES THEY ARE COMING UP WITH BUT I WAS UP TERE THIS MORNING I TIMESTAMP EVERYTHING TOOK PICTURES AND I CAN SHOW YOU AND I COUNTED EVERY SPOT PERFECTLY. AND I JUST DON'T SEE IT.7 SPOTS FOR 76 UNITS.
A CORNER OF A CAR. I JUST THINK THAT PROJECT RIGHT THERE I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE TOO MUCH. AND THE PEOPLE OVER THERE ARE HURTING AS IT IS.
ME AND MY WIFE ARE BOTH DISABLED. WE ARE NOT HERE TRY TO START ANYTHING YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BUT WE GOT OUR CAR TOWED. WE PARKED AGAINST THE FENCE BY THE DUMPSTER BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO PARK. WITH A HANDICAP RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE. I WAS TAKING THIS MORNING A BIG PILE OF MULCH IT'S BEEN ALMOST 2 MONTHS NOW. IT'S JUST SITTING THERE.
THAT'S MY CONCERN. HOW DO YOU TELL SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE CAR.
EVERYBODY BUYS A CAR WHEN THEY GET THEIR TAX MONEY. WITH THE GO TO PARK?
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SORRY, RAMBLING ON, I APOLOGIZE.>> SIR, BEFORE YOU GO CAN ASK A QUESTION? 57 YOU COUNTED TODAY IS BETWEEN ALL THREE LOTS?
>> I WAS PREPARED TO VOTE FOR THIS BUT YOU HAVE THROWN A WRENCH IN THE WORKS.
OUR ITEM ACTUALLY STATES THERE ARE 55 PARKING SPACES SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO MORE THAN WHAT THEY REPORTED. BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THAT FROM ANYBODY BUT YOU.
>> KEN WAS OUT HERE A WHILE AGO BECAUSE ALL THE VIOLATIONS. A COUPLE OTHER INSPECTORS WERE OUTTHERE . THEY GOT THAT WORKED OUT BUT I GUESS YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS IT SOUNDS.
>> WHO IS CALLING THE TOW SERVICE TO COME OUT?
>> WOODLAWN MANAGEMENT TEAM. WE TALKED TO THEM. THEY ARE ON A ROTATION SO THE COMPANY BETWEEN THREE AND 4 AM. MOST THEY GOT OUT OF THERE IN ONE IS 17 CARS.
SO WHEN THE GUY COMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT SCANS ALL THE TAGS AND WOODLAWN, TELL THEM WHETHER THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE OR NOT, ONE LADY WAS 73 SHE SAID WHY DIGITAL MY CAR? BECAUSE THE TIRES WERE ON THE WHITE LINE.
THAT IS NOT COOL. HAVE YOU HAD YOUR CAR TOWED?
>> YES, BECAUSE I PARKED IN FRONT OF THE DUMPSTER WHEN THERE WERE NO SPOTS.
THE PURIFICATION THING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SO BACK TO SAINT. ABOUT ALL OF HIS BACK TO SAINT.
THEY'RE ALL BUSTED AND DO NOT WORK. THANK YOU GUYS.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER CARDS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE IT SOME REBUTTAL?
>> YET, ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS I HAVE A CERTIFIED SURVEY THAT COUNTED THE PARKING SPACES.
I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COMPLEX ABOUT TOWING.
THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WE HAVE A LOT OF ILLEGAL VISITORS. WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE WITHOUT TAX. ANYTHING ABOUT PARKING ON THE STRIKE OR NOT I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT. THE MULCH AND WE HAVE WHEN SCABIES THERE LANDSCAPING THERE MIGHT BE THERE. THEY HAVE PICTURES, TOO. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO VOTE FOR IT I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT IS NOT SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF.
I REALIZE THAT MR. WARD MAY NOT HAVE CHILDREN AND IT MIGHT NOT AFFECT HIM AS MUCH.
YOU DO? AT THE PROPERTY, OKAY, HE DOES.
>> OKAY I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> YOU HAVE 76 UNITS THERE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A 140 PARKING SPACES AND HAVE 55 OR 57. USE 838 OUR UNUSED RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS YOU HAVE A HUGE PARKING PROBLEM.
>> I MEAN, THIS IS AN AERIAL YOU CAN SEE ALL THE VACANT SPOTS.
I MEAN, SOMEONE SAYING ANECDOTALLY THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN THAT'S FINE.
LIKE I SAID NOT HERE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THIS IS GOING TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY IT'S $140,000 PROJECT AND I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CHILDREN BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT A NECESSARY THING FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS HOW THIS WOULD ALL. IT WAS JUST A NICE THING TO DO. IF YOU WANT I CAN SEND YOU, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS SECURITY THAT COMES FROM ACCOUNTS CARS. IT'S NOT IN A TOTAL.
>> CAN YOU INSTRUCT YOUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY NOT TO CALL A TOWING SERVICE?
>> WE HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKED ILLEGALLY. I AGREE IF SOMEONE IS TOUCHING THE WHITE LINE IF THAT'S WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
IF SOMEONE IS PARKING ILLEGALLY IN A HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES OR THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON THE PROPERTY IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WE CAN'T HAVE THEM PARKING ON OUR
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PROPERTY. IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CHECK. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I CAN'T INSTRUCT THEM NOT TO TWO PEOPLE.WERE NOT TRYING TO TOWED TO BE A NUISANCE. THAT'S NOT OUR GOAL.
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE.
>> ARGUED SAYING THE TOWING IS NOT BECAUSE OF LACK OF PARKING SPACES?
>> IT'S ABOUT PARKING PASSES MY UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING TOWED BECAUSE HER ON THE LINE BUT WE DO HAVE DUMPSTERS THAT HAVE TO BE REMOVED I UNDERSTAND WHY THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, FOR THE MOST PART IT'S PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE PARKING PASSES.
IT'S ILLEGAL VISITORS. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL COME THERE WILL BE AN ILLEGAL RESIDENT AND STAY ON PROPERTY. THEY HAVE A GIRLFRIEND THERE AND THEY CAN PUT THEIR NAME ON THE LEASE WE OFFER THEM A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH CREDIT APPROVAL. WESTERN REGULATIONS SO HUD BASICALLY ASKED FOR CREDIT AND CRIMINAL WE CANNOT HAVE CHILD MOLESTERS ON OUR PROPERTY THAT'S NOT ALLOWED SO IF YOU HAVE USERS THAT'S WHY VITO.
>> I THINK THE PARKING IS A GOOD IDEA OF HIS CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKING IS IN HEAVEN FOR PEOPLE THAT THE VEHICLES THEY ARE ASKING US TO ALUMINATE A COUPLE SPOTS FOR THE PART.
-- >> OUR GOAL IS NOT TO BURDEN OUR TENANTS. I AM FINE I DIDN'T THINK THIS WOULD BE SO CONTROVERSIAL.
I AM FINE WITH BRINGING RESIDENTS HERE IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO SAINT AUGUSTINE INTO A CRA OUT HERE. IF THAT'S WHAT IT NEEDS WE CAN PRESENT COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE PLAN I HAVE NO PROBLEM COMING BACK AND DOING THAT. I GET YOU HAVE SOMEONE ELSE SAYING SOMETHING AND YOU WANT SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT'S FINE.
>> DO YOU CHARGE FOR PARKING PASSES?
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PARKING PASSES ARE FREE AS PART OF BEING A RESIDENT.
>> WELL, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE AND I THINK YOUR INTENTION IS WELL SAID.
I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT TO HEAR FROM THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON THIS, AS WELL. AS WELL AS OTHER RESIDENTS OR ASSOCIATIONS.
THERE IS A BIG DISPARITY WITH WHAT'S BEING SAID HERE I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE.
>> WELL, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. WE DON'T WANT TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR LIVING IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE I UNDERSTAND PARKING ISSUES.
PROBABLY, A LOT OF THE TENANTS IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY COME HOME LATE AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU COME HOME LATE AT NIGHT AND YOU ARE TIRED AND LOOKING AROUND GOING THERE IS NO PLACE TO PARK. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD NOT APPROVE IT.
>> WE DON'T WANT CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM. WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS BUT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE ADULTS DRIVING AND GOING TO WORK AND BACK HOME.
CERTAINLY DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND HAVE A MEETING.
>> I AM FINE IF NOT VOTING THE AFFIRMATIVE DON'T FEEL DOCTORAL THAT IS FINE.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ONE QUESTION. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
OR NOT MOVE FORWARD. WHAT IS YOUR GUEST POLICY?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO ASK MY MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN DAYS YOU ARE ALLOWED IS BY REGULATION I DON'T WANT TO SAY WITHOUT THEM. I THINK IT'S 13 DAYS.
>> IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES I THINK WHAT WE ARE PROBABLY ASKING IS TO GET YOUR MANAGER
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BACK WE WANT TO HEAR HIS POLICY AND SEE HOW MANY CARS ARE THERE.WE WANT TO KNOW PEOPLE TIMES PEAK TIMES, I UNDERSTAND MIDDLE OF THE DAY PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO WORK PARKING LOTS DO NOT HAVE MANY CARS IN THM. PERHAPS SOME INFORMATION ON THE TOWING WOULD BE HELPFUL, TOO. WE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE TOWING COMPANY.
I WOULD SAY TWO THINGS BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THIS TYPICALLY SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WE HIRE A TOWING COMPANY WITH THE RULES AND THEY GO THROUGH THREE TIMES A WEEK IN THE DOCKET CALLED.
THEY RESPOND TO A CALL BUT TYPICALLY THEY GO THROUGH AND IF A CAR IS NOT WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME THEY TOE IT. WE READ A RECENT STUDY WITH HOUSING AND NORTHEAST FLORIDA TYPICAL NUMBER OF CARS IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 5 TO 50 PERCENT THE 50 UNIT TOWNHOME COMMUNITY -- SURE ENOUGH THAT'S ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE GETTING.
THE WILL OF THEBOARD AT THIS ?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO DEFERRED THE ITEM. AND I HOPE YOU'LL MOVE THE MULCH BY THE LANDSCAPERS.
>> I DID NOT SEE THE MULCH PIL .
>> I KNOW IT HAS BEEN HOT THE PASTSEVERAL WEEKS .
>> TIME CERTAIN BEING AUGUST 3. IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU?
>> YEAH, COULD BE TEMPORARILY DO THAT I HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
>> WE CAN MOVE IT TO AUGUST 3 AND GET WITH STAFF AND YOU CAN REQUEST FURTHER.
>> WE ASK AS MUCH IS THAT WORK FOR YOU WITH THE SCHEDULE?
>> YES, SIR, THAT WILL BE OKAY.
>> I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A BURDEN ON THEM.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION I MOVED WE DIFFER ZONING VARIANCE 2023-06 WOODLAWN APARTMENTS REQUEST FOR ZONING VARIANCE 6.17 OF THE COUNTY CODE IN THE APARTMENTS IN ORDER TO REPLACED 24 UNUSED PARKING SPACES WITH PROXIMALLY 7560 AREA FOR RECREATION -- TIME
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CERTAIN OF AUGUST 3 OR AT THE DISCRETION OF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.>> MOTION BY RICHARD SECOND BY ELVIS. PLEASE REGISTER THE VOTE.
ALL RIGHT THAT MOTION PASSES THANK YOU, SIR. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. RAVENSWOOD VILLAGE. MR. ALLMOND IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, 6277 DUPONT STATION NORTHEAST 33217. IS THAT BETTER? THE REQUEST BEFORE HE IS A SIMPLE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FENCE HEIGHT FROM 60 TWO EIGHT FEET IN THE RAVENSWOOD SUBDIVISION. RAVENSWOOD SUBDIVISION IS PROXIMATELY 65 ACRES -- ELEMENTARY TO THE EAST AND DRIVE TO THE SOUTH.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS APPROVED MASTER SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT SHOWS A NICE ITEM OF NOTE THIS IS THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL REZONING TO HOUSING IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY MULTIFAMILY THAT'S THERE IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT. COMPONENT.
THIS NEXT SLIDE WILL BE INCLUDED WITH THE APPLICATION VARIANCE WITH THAT YOU WILL SEE AREAS ALONG. REQUESTED TO HAVE THE FENCE HEIGHT TO BE INCREASED TO EIGHT FEET. THE CODES ALLOWS FOR EIGHT FOOT FENCE WITH A 10 FOOT
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DIFFERENTIAL WITH THAT AND IS RUNNING EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. OUR PORTIONS WITH THIS.WE ARE MEETING THAT TWO FOOT REQUIREMENT MANY MANY PORTIONS WILL BE DUMPED.
IT'S EIGHT HAVE TO 1.7 FEET SO WERE REALLY CLOSE. HORTON HAS REQUESTED TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT FENCEWHERE WE ARE ALLOWED TO . FOR INCREASED PRIVACY BUT THEY LIKE THE ENTIRE FENCE BE CHANGED TO EIGHT FEET. VARIATION AS SUCH.
ESSENTIALLY IT. I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> I AM NOT AGAINST THIS AT ALL. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF WHO LOOKED AT IT AND JUST HAD A MINI AREAS BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY CHANGES.
I COULD NOT FIND IT IN THEIR I'M SURE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS THE TOWNHOUSES YOUR BILLING ARE SUCH NARROW LOTS THERE'S 130 HOUSES AND APPRECIATE YOU'LL BE THE FIRST.
THOSE ARE TWO STORIES, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S WHY THEY WILL BE LOOKING DOWN ON PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
EIGHT FOOT FENCE IN YOUR OPINION WOULD PREVENT SOMEONE WITH THE SECOND STORYWINDOW TO LOOK DOWN ?
>> I DON'T THINK IT WILL THAT'S MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION. IT WILL HAVE SOME EFFECT LOOKING TOWARDS THE TOWNHOUSES.
>> I AGREE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE TYPE A GRADING ON THE SIDE IS A CAN OF WATER RUNNING TOWARDS THE STREET FROM THEIR OR WHERE IS IT CAN GO I GUESS IT'S TIED INTO THEDRAINAGE ?
>> CORRECT. ALL LOTS ARE TYPE A GREAT. THE STORMWATER ONCE IT GETS TO THE STREET IT DRAINS GOES TO THE CONTROLS STRUCTURE.
>> IS MY PERSONAL OPINION WE SHOULD JUST RAISE THE HEIGHT OF OFFENSES WE DON'T GET A LOT OF THESE BUT I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE ANYTHING WRONG I INTEND TO VOTE FOR YOUR REQUEST.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AGENCY? ANY SPEAKER PARTS?
>> HI MY NAME IS JUDY I AM ALMOST 80 YEARS OLD AND I SPENT 57 YEARS IN RAVENSWOOD.
I HAVE BEEN THERE WITH MY CRITTERS AND MY SWAP IN MY WOODS.
I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND PUT THEM THE HOUSES BECAME TWO STORES.
BEFORE SECTION? THEY HAVE COST ME OVER $10,000 OUT OF MY POCKET.
I CALLED EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY. IT'S STILL COSTING ME MONEY.
NOBODY WILL LISTEN TO ME. I'VE TRIED TO DO, TODAY I FOUND A MAN POUNDING ON MY DOOR THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS HAVE NO ACCESS TO WATER SO THEY COME TO EUROPE FOR WATER BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TILL TODAY. I KNEW SOMEBODY WAS DOING IT I DO KNOW WHO IT WAS.ONESTLY, THEY RUINED MY POOL. I HAVE 42 YEARS THEY SMASHED DOWN PART OF MY FENCE.
WHEN THEY WERE CLEARING THE EASEMENTTHEY LIST A PART OF MY ROOF .
ALL OF THOSE OUT OF MY POCKET NO ONE WILL PAY FOR IT. I KEPT TRYING TO CALL THE COUNTY TO SEEM TO DEAL WITH AND NOBODY RESPONSE. I HAD VERY, VERY SICK FAMILY MEMBERS THAT NEED MY HELP MORE THAN ME TRY TO REPAIR MY HOUSE OVER AND OVER.
ANYWAY, IF I COULD HAVE A 24 FOOT SECTION SO I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TWO-STORY HOUSES.
THINK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
>> CAN WE HAVE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE?
>> YOU SEE WHERE OUR DRIVEWAY IS.
>>, THE FIRST LOT ON THE SIDE.
>> STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR US PLEASE.
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>> WILLIAM JENNINGS 72-- I AM 40 EIGHT FOOT BECAUSE THERE'S IS THREE FOOT HIGHER THAN MINE SO EVERYWHERE I LOOK IS THE FOR HIRE. EIGHT FOOT WOULD BE GREAT.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S LIKE THAT MUCH IN MY BACKYARD SOME ALL FOR THE EIGHT FOOT.
>> MR. ALLMOND WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A REBUTTAL.
>> THE LEGS WILL FIRST IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING OF THAT COMPLAINT.
WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE SO IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TENANT TO THEM. WITH RESPECT TO THE ELEVATION DIFFERENTIAL WE DESIGNED THE SUBDIVISION I TRIED TO HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FILL SOME OF THE NEGOTIATIONS BUT THE REASON TO FORM A HOUSING WITH A 20 PERCENT REDUCTION IN PROPOSED THAT'S WHY --.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. WE WILL GET WITH HER AFTERWARD AND MAKE SURE SHE'S ADDRESSED I SAID WHATEVER THE TOPIC IS, THANK YOU.
>> WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY. I PROBABLY NEED TO DECLARE A CONFLICT HERE.BECAUSE THEY ARE MY BIGGEST CUSTOMER AND THEIR ON THIS PROJECT. THERE'S A COUPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR BIGGEST CUSTOMER.
>> I THINK THAT IS ACCEPTABLE IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT THAT IS ON THE RECORD AND IF YOU WANT TO RECUSE YOURSELF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
>> NO PROBLEM COMMENTING ON THE ITEM YOU SHOULD NOT VOTE.
>> ALL RIGHT SORE BACK TO THE AGENCY AT THIS POINT. FOR A MOTION.
>> SHOULD MOVE REQUEST FOR ZONING VARIANCE DISTINCTION 2.0 4B 112 FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INCREASE THE FENCE HEIGHT FROM 6-8 FEET ALONG THE DEVELOPERS.
HER LOCATED ON UNADDRESSED PROPERTY IN RAVENSWOOD DRIVE OF THE NEW RAVENSWOOD WORKFORCE
[5. ZVAR 2023-13 1300 Wilshire Ct. S. Addition.]
HOUSING SUBDIVISION.>> MOTION BY RICHARD SECOND BY JACK. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, REGISTER THE VOTE, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT THAT MOTION PASSES.
LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER FIVE. MR. AND MRS. (NAME?) ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? ALL RIGHT, YET THE FLOOR, MA'AM.
>> HELLO MY NAME IS MICHELLE MY HUSBAND AND I ON THE PROPERTY AT 1300 OCEANPORT.
>> 1300 WILSHIRE PORT SOUTH. MINUS WE ARE REQUESTING A VARIANCE IN OUR SECOND YARD FROM 20 FEET TO 18 FEET. FROM THIS LINE YOU CAN SEE OUR LOCATION.
NORTHWEST ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ON ROBERTS ROAD.
>> CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN? US OLD-TIMERS ARE HAVING TROUBLE.
>> THIS SHOWS OUR ZONING. THIS IS RG TO. THIS PLAT SHOWS THE REAL REASON FOR THE REQUEST. WE WANT TO REMODEL OUR BATHROOM AND THE NEW SIDE ADDITION IS 18 FEET FROM YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE FROM THE STREET. THIS HOUSE IS DIFFERENT FROM A NEIGHBORING HOUSE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THAT MY HOUSE IS NOT JUST A CORNER LOT BUT MY HOUSE IS SLANTED ON THE LOT. THAT MEANS WE ARE FACING THE INTERSECTION AND THAT 20 FOOT
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SETBACK IS ON TWO SIDES OF MY HOUSE. IT IS OUR GOAL TO STAY IN THIS HOME AND TO AGE IN PLACE SO WHAT DID DOCTOR THAT WAS BUILT IN 97 AND BUILDING THE NEW BATTER ON A ZERO ENTRY SHOWER WITH AN OPENING AND WIDER DOORWAYS AND THAT MEANS WE NEED TO ENLARGE THE ROOM FOR ADA. THE PREVIOUS TENANT SUGGESTED WE COULD CUT THAT FRONT CORNER OF THE ADDITION BY 45 DEGREES AND YOU ALL AGREE THAT 45 DEGREES ANGLE WITH NOT ONLY LOOK ODD FROM THE OUTSIDE BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW IT WOULD HANDLE THE CABINETRY INSIDE SO WE JUST WANTED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE. WE WANT IT TO LOOK SEAMLESS SO WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE. WE ARE DOING STUCCO ON THE ADDITION. WE ARE TIME IN THE ROOF WE ARE DISPLAYING AN ADDITION ON THE SIDE AND FROM THE STREET HE WILL EVEN BE ABLE TO SEE ANY DIFFERENCE.THE WINDOWS WILL JUST BE LIKE THE EXISTING WINDOWS. AND I DID TAKE A PHOTO OF THE SIDE YARD SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENSIVE SIDE YARD WILL STILL BE THERE EVEN WITH THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE IT IS JUST THIS TINY TWO FOOT SECTION RICHER THAT WILL BE GIVEN THE ADDITION AND AS IT GOES BACK ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE 20 FOOT BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS ANGLED. SO I ASSURE YOU THAT GRANTING THE VARIANCE IS NOT A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE. IT DOES NOT AFFECT ANY ADJOINING PROPERTIES. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT AND PURPOSE OF THE CURRENT ZONING. IN CONCLUSION, YOU CAN SEE ONCE THE ADDITION IS DONE YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT'S AN ADDITION FROM THE STREET. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ANY SPEAKER CARDS? ALL RIGHT, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2020-13 1300 WILSHIRE COURT SOUTH ADDITION.
[6. MAJMOD 2023-07 New Twin Creeks (Parcel 8).]
BASED UPON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY JACK AND SECOND BY HENRY. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. OKAY, MOVING ON. MR. ROBERTS.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM MR. ROBERTS 2101.
>> JUST A SECOND, TONY. ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION? PROCEED.
SEEKING TO AMEND, HISTORY WILL REMEMBER TENURE ON THE AGENCY WAS FIRST ENACTED MODIFICATION TO THE SIGNAGE. WE HAVE SEEN BEACH WALK LAGOON THE ONES ON 210 AND -- WHAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE AERIAL PHOTO IS ONE ON THE EAST SIDE OF BEACH WALK BOULEVARD. EVERYTHING TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE ACTIVITIES CENTER.
A DECADE LATER AFTER BEAUTY THE SIGNS ON THE ONE SIDE OF THE STREET SHOULD BATS THE WAS OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
REGULATIONS FOR THE ADJOINING PROPERTY. ALLOWING TO MATCH FULL-SIZE OF BEACH WALK AND LOOKING AT FROM A BIRDSEYE VIEW HIGHLIGHTED PARCEL EIGHT IS HIS OFFICE AND RETAIL THE OPERATIONS ARE REALLY NEXT ARE UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW AND EIGHT WAWA STORE
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FOR PARCEL EIGHT. THIS IS ON THE SLIDE THIS BEFORE YOU IS MERELY THE MODIFICATION ALLOWING THE SAME SITE USE TO BE APPLICABLE. MR. CHAIRMAN AND AGENCY.THIS IS THE COMP PLAN PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT MR. KELLY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS NOT REDUCED PARKING SPACES, FROM ONE PERSON TO ANOTHER, SPACES UNAFFECTED, LOCATION OF PEDESTRIANS ACCESS IS UNCHANGED, NO CHANGE IN THE DENSITY OF THE USES, STRUCTURE HEIGHTS, YARDS, SETBACKS AND INCREASE ANY KIND OF--USE.
FOR THAT MR. CHAIRMAN I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN NO CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE PUBLIC --.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? ANY SPEAKER CARDS?
>> I WILL BE GLAD TO MOVE THIS ONE. MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
[7. MAJMOD 2023-08 Cumberland Industrial Park.]
MAJOR MOUNT 23 -07 AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.>> MOTION BY HENRY SECOND BY ELVIS ANY DISCUSSION?THAT MOTION PASSES- 5-0.
ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE? NONE TO DECLARE A DUTY TO CALL BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LATE I DID NOT EVEN SAY HELLO TO YOU.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON TO YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION?
>> FOR THE RECORD THEN 14775 KNOX ROAD WITH ME TODAY IS --AND JEFF ROGERS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC RELATED TO THAT.DATING THE SAME THING OVER PRIOR AGENDA ITEM THIS IS THE CUMBERLAND INDUSTRIAL PARK AND MITCHELL. IN 1924.
SERIES OF MODIFICATIONS AS WELL AS PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE PUD HAS CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL BASED USES SOME CHANGES ARE SEEN SITUATION BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE IS PRODUCING FOR EACH OF AND CHANGE THE PROGRAM WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUEST FOR YOU TODAY. BEFORE I GO FURTHER NOTE ON PAGE TREMENDOUS I'VE HAND UP AS A REDLINE AND THAT ADDRESSES RESERVATION OF A ROADWAY ALONG CUMBERLAND SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WERE GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THAT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
HERE THS AERIAL IT'S IS THE PROPERTY WHICH ARE TWO PARCELS OF THE LARGER CUMBERLAND INDUSTRIAL PARK PUD IS LOCATED ON NINE ROAD TO 10 W.. WE CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL PATTERN DEVELOPED ASTHMA FOR BEACH WALK IN BEACON LAKE AND HERE WE ARE EXCEPT INTERCHANGE INTERSECTION TO 10 IN THE FIRE REALLY CHANGING TRANSFORMING THE CORRIDOR WITH THE APPROVAL -- PUD IS A MIXED USE DISTRICT KIND OF NORTH ON 210 WEST TO INTERCHANGE SO ALL THE USES ALWAYS CALIBERS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SPECIFICALLY BRINGING IN GENERAL BUSINESS USE CATEGORY USE TWO PARCELS. IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAVE WAS HER STANDARD MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH A TYLER FOR YOU JUST MAKING IT EASIER TO INTERPRET THE PLAN THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO OCCUR ON THE PARCELS SO ALL THE ARROWS INDICATE ACCESS POINTS ALONG 210 AND PARTS DRIVE WHICH IS PRIVATE DRIVE TO MAINTAIN THE ASSOCIATION FOR COMMERCE PARK AND THE CONNECTIVITY FROM PARCEL LAKE WILL BE WEST TO THE EXISTING WHAT MAY BE THE FUTURE SITE STORAGE AREAS AND THE POOL SERVICE IN THE AREA. BUT IS THIS REQUEST? ALLOCATING, REASSIGNING EXISTING COUNTY RIGHTS SOME 30,000 SQUARE FEET FROM PARCEL A TO PARCEL B INTRODUCING REALLY FORWARD SEVERAL BUSINESS USE CALIBERS FOR BOTH OF THE
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PARCELS.BALANCING AND REALLOCATING USES REFLECTING THE CHANGES WE SEE WITHIN THE QUARTER. WHEN WORKING WITH STAFF WITH THE PARCEL OWNERS WERE PROVIDED FOR COST ACCESS YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE WHICH IS PARCEL SEVEN TO MAKE SURE THEIR ACCESS FROM CUMBERLAND TRIED NOW WHICH IS PROPOSED AT 210 AND THEN GIVE ACCESS POINTS SETTLING IN ON 210 AND OTHER PERSONS. JUST A QUICK MOMENT SHOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE IT DOES INVOLVE A WAIVER CHANGE IN THE CODE THESE TWO ACCESS POINTS WHICH ARE TO DRY.CONNECTIONS TO EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PARCELS SO GENERALLY YOU SEE FOR THIS TYPE OF CLASS OF ROADWAY DIVERSITY DRIVING CONNECTIONS, FIRE AND LENINISM CODES, 25 FEET PROVIDING FOR 191 FEET INTENTIONALLY IS WHAT THIS ACCESS POINT AT THE TAIL END OF THE TURNING THE RIGHT TURN LANE TO NOT PUT IT TO ALLOW DRIVERS TO FULLY ENTER THE WAY IT'S GOING TO CUMBERLAND. THIS IS RIGHT ABOVE ADMINISTRATIVE THE POWER TO DEVIATE THAT 191 IS A REPORT AND PERMITTING GO TO SITE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS WILL ACCOMMODATE FOR INTERNALLY SHOULD WHEN WE NEEDED WHATEVER OUR USE THAT IS PLANNED FOR PARCEL B SO THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL ALLOW FOR US TO PROVIDE P AND Z IN PARCEL B. SO IN SUMMARY FOR ALLOCATING FROM PARCEL A TO PARCEL B THAT ARE COMPLEMENTARY AND REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE SEE, PROVIDING FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY AND PROVIDED FOR ACCESS TO BOTH OF THESE PARCELS FROM COUNTY ROAD 210. I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE AS WELL.
>> AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> QUESTIONS, 210 IS A COUNTY ROAD IT'S NOT A DOT?
>> CORRECT. IT'S A COUNTY ROAD THERE ARE PLANS UNDERWAY.
>> I WAS CAN SAY IF IT'S DOT IT'S PERMANENT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
>> CAN YOU FLIP THAT ONE? IS THERE INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN?
>> YES, SIR. LET ME HIGHLIGHT IT HERE. I SHOULD MAKE THIS ARROW ORANGE TO BE ABLE TO COME DOWN.
>> CHAIR, I HAVE ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION. ON THE TWO ENTRIES ON THE ROAD THAT ARE CLOSED SO BOTH OF THEM WILL BE THERE IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
>> CORRECT. BOTH OF THESE SPOTS, CORRECT.
>> WHAT IS THE REASON YOU NEED TO OF THEM?
>> THEY ARE SEPARATE PARCELS TO PROVIDE ACCESS. THIS IS AN EXISTING DRIVE.
>> ANYONE ELSE? ANY SPEAKER CARDS. THAT WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY
[8. REZ 2023-07 Airport One Parcel 2.]
FOR A MOTION. JACK.>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MODIFICATION 2020 MINUS OH EIGHT CUMBERLAND INDUSTRIAL PARK.
>> FIRST BY JACK SECOND BY HENRY, ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE REGISTER THE BOAT.
VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. MR. AND ANNAPOLIS.
>> I DUTY TO DECLARE SOME EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. MATT ROBERTSON ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROJECT CONTACT ME TO LET ME KNOW HE IS INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT AND THE DETAILS. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
>> MICHAEL UNTIL CLOSE TO 28 I CONNECTED ROAD. --ROAD.
>> AT THE OTHER PODIUM, I THINK. IT WORKS THE SAME WAY THE TV
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REMOTE WORKS AT HOME.>> WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST REZONING OF PROXIMALLY 1.15 ACRES OF LAND FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE FOR MIXED LAND USE DISPLAYED AREA.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT, WELL, I WILL USE MINE.WHILE IT APPEARS WE ARE TRYING TO REZONE A PIECE OF LAND THE PARCEL THAT MR. ROBERTS HAS INCLUDED WE ARE DEVELOPING --ONE AND THIS WOULD BECOME PART OF IT. THIS IS MARSHALL INTENSIVE AS YOU SEE ON THE ZONING MAP IN A SECOND. WHILE ALSO THIS LAND WHICH IS OWNED COMMERCIAL GENERAL THE REASON THAT WE ARE NEEDING HERE RATHER THAN HERE IS SINCE IT REMAINS A PRIVATE ROAD BY SIX OR OWNERSHIP YOU WILL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS SHOWS THE CURRENT ZONING A LOT OF CI. THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION BY THE DEVELOPER.
SO THIS IS OUR PROJECT THIS IS THE AIRPORT ONE PROJECT AND BEHIND THE CENTER ARE 27 BOAT AND RV STORE SPACES AND WE WANT TO EXPAND THAT PHASE OF THE PROJECT TO MAKEIT THERE WHILE WE ARE DEVELOPING THIS FOR CG USE IS CURRENTLY THE GENERATION OF HOMES.
SO WE ARE AS PART OF THE ORDER FOR ONE DEVELOPING FOR THAT MIXED-USE LAND-USE DESTINATION BY PROVIDING RETAIL SERVICES IN AIRPORT ONE. WE ALSO DEVELOPED THE ADJACENT PARCEL THE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS ALSO A MIXED USE DISTRICT SO DEVELOPING SEVERAL ABUSES BEEN REQUESTED A DESIRE TO THE MIXED USE DISTRICT. I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> I HAVE SEVERAL WHENEVER THE ITEM I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO REZONE TWO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE FOR AN EXTENSION OF YOUR STORAGE RV AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITY.
>> YOU SAID YOUR INTENT IF YOU GO FORWARD, SORRY, FORWARD, NOT BACK.
THERE. IT SAYS WHICH SEEKS TO FULFILL THE INTENT OF THE LAND DESIGNATION FOR RETAIL AND WAREHOUSING. ON THE PROPERTY YOU ARE ALREADY DEVELOPING?
>> YES, THE COMPOSITE OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
>> I NOTICED IN THE STAFF COMMENTS IF THIS PARCEL IS ZONED UNDER COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO MARSHALL INTENSIVE THERE ARE SEVERAL USES SUCH AS AUTO BODY SHOPS, PET BOARDING SERVICES, CAR WASHES THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE THINK ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTHEAST, EAST, NORTH THERE. THEY NEVER STATED IT BUT IT THEY SAID THERE'S NO TEXT OR USE LIMITING LANGUAGE LIMITING TEXT IN THE APPLICATION TO LIMIT WHAT YOU CAN DO ON THE CI IF IT'S REZONED TO CI TO KEEP IT TO STORAGE FACILITIES. IS THAT YOUR INTENT? OR WHAT IS YOUR INTENT? IT IS STATED IN THEIR THAT THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL GENERAL ALLOWS ZONING WHAT YOU BASICALLY WANT TO DO FOR THIS PERMIT.
ALTHOUGH WE WOULD ADD SOME BUFFERING IN THERE.--
>> I THINK BUFFERING I THINK STAFF COMMENTED ON THAT IS THE SAME AS IT RELATES TO BUFFERING BETWEEN COMMERCIAL USE AND RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USE .
SO WE WERE ADVISED THAT IT WOULD BE PREFERABLE FOR THE COUNTY STAY IN PART FOR ZONING
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RATHER THAN APPLY FOR SPECIAL USE SO THIS IS WHY WE REZONED.>> BUT YOU DO INTEND TO USE THIS FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE.
>> THAT AND MAYBE PERSONAL STORAGE.
>> SO WOULD YOU MIND INSERTING SOME USE LIMITING TEXT?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THEN WE ARE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. HENRY.
>> YES, MOTION TO APPROVE A REZONE 2023 -07 FOUR AIRPORT ONE PARCEL TO PROVIDING THE STAFF REPORT.
>> MOTION BY HENRY IS THERE A SECOND?
>> THERE IS A SECOND BUT I LIKE TO MODIFY TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT LIMITS THE USE TO RV AND BOAT STORAGE OR PERSONAL STORAGE ARE MANY WAREHOUSES.
>> AND THAT'S OKAY WITH THE APPLICANT?
>> LET ME RESTATE THAT MOTION.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE RATHER THAN LIMITED TO THOSE USES TO STATE THE PROHIBITED USES?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION I WOULD CALL ON OUR ATTORNEY.
>> I BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLE, YES, TO STATE THE PERMITTED USES.
>> IT'S POSSIBLE BUT IT MAY BE BETTER TO STATE THE USES. IT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION.
>> I DON'T KNOW ALL THE PRIVATE USES I DISTILLED THE THREE THA STAFF ARE CONCERNED .
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, MIKE ROBERTSON WITH MANAGEMENT, ANOTHER OPTION SO WE TYPICALLY BRIEF THIS IN THE STAFF REPORT YOU ALSO AS OPPOSED TO NAMING EVERY USE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY LIMIT IT TO A LOWER ZONING DISTRICT THAT CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ALLOWS FOR STORAGE BE UNDER COMMERCIAL GENERAL WHICH ALLOWS THE FACILITY FOR RETAIL BUT HAS THE POTENTIAL HIGHER IMPACT THAT THE CI USES.
>> THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST. ALL USES ALLOWED UNDER CURRENT CG CATEGORY. PLUS THE BOW AND RV.
>> SO IN THIS CASE WE ARE RESENTING IT TO STILL CI, RIGHT? HE SAID YES. HENRY, YOU WANT TO TAKE A STEP AT THAT MOTION.
>> IT WILL BE CI WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. CI WITH CONDITION FOR RV BOAT STORAGE IS ALLOWED AND ALL THE USES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL.
>> LET ME BACK UP FOR A SECOND. BECAUSE I BELIEVE MR. OVERSTREET DID NOT INCLUDE THE PROPERTY STORAGE IN THE CI USES. WE ARE ALLOWING UNDER CI PERSONAL PROPERTY, RV AND BOAT STORAGE. OTHERWISE, THE USES IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
[9. REZ 2023-08 SJC SR 207 Water Reclamation Facility.]
>> COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND ALL US AND BAFFLE USE COVERS.
>> SO THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU?SO THAT IS A YES. MOTION, SECOND? SECOND FROM RICHARD. DISCUSSION? REGISTER THE VOTE.
ALL RIGHT THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. LET'S MOVE ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.
PRESENTATION IS BY ST. JOHN'S COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT. ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON I AM GORDON SMITH AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT. MR. GROFF CANNOT MAKE THE MEETING THIS MORNING.
I GIVE THIS PRESENTATION AGENDA NUMBER NINE IS THE COUNTY AND STATE ROAD SEVEN WATER
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RECLAMATION FACILITY. BEFORE YOU TODAY WE ARE ASKING TO REQUEST REZONED 143 ACRES OF LAND FROM OR AND COMMERCIAL HIGHLY TOURIST TO PUBLIC SERVICE TO ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. THIS APPLICATION WAS BEFORE THIS BOARD LAST SUMMER AND GOT APPROVAL UNDER OR ZONING UNDER SPECIAL USE FOR OUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE BENEFITS IT CAN PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY. FIRST, IT WILL EXPAND THE CAPACITY FOR THE WATER SERVICE AREA THAT SERVES THE SOUTHERN PART OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. ALSO, REDUCE THE FLOW TO THE CURRENT WENT ANASTASIA ISLAND WASTE RECLAMATION SO THAT FLOW IN THE 207 A CROSS UNDERNEATH THE RIVER TO THE PLANT AND NOW THIS NEW FACILITY WILL TAKE THAT OFF AND BE REDIRECTED RIGHT ALONG 207. THIS PROJECT WAS DRIVEN BY BILLS PASSED BY THE SENATE A COUPLE YEARS AGO TO REDUCE WATER DISCHARGES. MOST REPORTEDLY REDUCE THE FLOW OF NUTRIENTS DISCHARGING TO THE RIVER. HERE'S AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE PROPERTY IT'S ABOUT ONE MILE WEST OF 207. I'M SORRY WEST OF 95 ON 207.THERE IS A CURRENT ZONING MAP THAT SHOWS THE LOWER ZONING OR ZONING NOT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE SITE PLAN THE DESIGN IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN WE ABOUT 65 PERCENT OF THE DESIGN SPECIALTIES CONDITIONS. I WANT TO POINT OUT THE SITE PLAN HAS NOT CHANGED IN THE PLAN WE PRESENTED WERE OFFERING REQUIREMENTS AND SETBACKS WE ARE MAINTAINING THOSE I WANTED TO PUT THAT UP --. IT CENTRALLY LOCATED WEST OF 9 .
IT'S NOT REALLY DEVELOPED IN THIS AREA THE CLOSEST STRUCTURE IS QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY.
THIS DRIVEWAY WILL ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO A PARK THAT'S CLOSE TO THIS FACILITY.
THAT'S A SUMMARY OF THIS PROJECT WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR TODAY.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I AM JUST CURIOUS LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY COMPACT WATER FACILITY.
IS THIS ACTUALLY LARGE ENOUGH AND HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO FILL THE NEEDS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY MOVING FORWARD?
>> YES, SIR. IT'S A COMPACT SITE. WE MAKE THE SITE WORK.
IT'S A PLAN IN THE FUTURE TO BE EXPANDED TO DOUBLE CAPACITY AND THAT'S ABOUT FIVE YEARS OUT BUT THIS SITE WILL WORK FOR FUTURE NEEDS.
>> SO YOU HAVE TO COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS?
>> I THINK THE CURRENT ZONING WILL PROBABLY ACCOMMODATE THAT. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE REVISIONS ARE AT THAT TIME.
>> ANYONE ELSE? GORDON, WHEN YOU WERE ALL HERE LAST SUMMER THERE WAS THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST WHO WAS HERE AND WAS NOT VERY HAPPY FOR THE SPECIAL USE AND RELAXATION OF THE SETBACK. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT?
>> THAT WAS MR. TIDE THAT WAS TO THE EAST PROPERTY THAT MEETING TOOK HIS COMMENTS INTO OUR SITE PLAN WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM HIM SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE HE HAS BEEN SATISFIED.
SO I HAVE ADDRESSED THIS AND HIS COMMENTS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY SPEAKER CARDS? BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. JACK.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING 2020 AND 08 SANCHEZ COUNTY STATE ROAD 207 WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY FINDINGS OF FACT --.
>> MOTION BY JACK SECOND BY ELVIS, ANY DISCUSSION? RICHARD.
[10. REZ 2023-09 Devito's 6248 Costanero Road. ]
>> I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE COUNTY FOR GETTING THIS DONE. THIS WILL PREVENT SEARCH GOING INTO THE RIVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR, I AGREE.
>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0.
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ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 10 IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION?>> WELL, WHEN I WAS GETTING OUT OF THE CAR AND WALKING INTO THE FACILITY I SAW A CAR PULL OUT AND STARTING TO GET OUT AND I RECOGNIZED THE INDIVIDUAL IN THE CAR WHO I MET A COUPLE PTIMES IS A RIGID MUSIC PRODUCE AND I SAID HELLO AND TURNED OUT THIS WAS ITEM IT WAS BRIEF BUT I'M NOT SEEING THIS PERSON IN PROBABLY FIVE YEARS.
>> ALL RIGHT, MA'AM. >> MY NAME IS NANCY DEVITO OF THE 6248.
>> MA'AM, MA'AM, FULL THAT DOW , PLEASE AND STATE YOUR ADDRESS.
>> MY ADDRESS CURRENTLY IS 62 249 --SAINT AUGUSTINE. I OWN THE LOT AT 6248 COST AND NARROW ROAD. AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REZONED.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S A SINGLE-FAMILY.
IT'S POINT TO THE ACRES AND I WANT TO BUILD A SMALL TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOUSE.
I HAVE MAPS OF THE NEIGHBORHOO . THE LOTS TO THE NORTH OF ME AND TO THE SOUTH OF ME ARE ALREADY ZONED RESIDENTIAL WITH THE CURRENT HOME ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO AS YOU SEE ON THE MAP PEOPLE ARE REZONING. I NEED TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LANE USE THAT AND -- INJURY APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET AND THAT'S IT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.
>> I MOVED WE APPROVE REZONING 20 COSTANERO-09 DEVITO'S 6248 COSTANERO ROAD REQUEST REZONED TO POINT TO THE ACRES RESIDENTIAL FOR SINGLE-FAMILY 6248 COSTANERO ROAD.
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>> SECOND BY JACK ORIGINAL MOTION BY RICHARD. ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.ALL RIGHT THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0 LET'S MOVE THE ITEM NUMBER 11.
I'M NOT IN THE, I'M NOW CAN ASK FOR ANY EXPERT TOCOMMUNICATIONS .
>> GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIR, AGENCY MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD JAMES WRIGHT HOUSE ST. JOHN'S -- HERE TO PRESENT NUMBER 11 AND 12 YOU MIGHT HAVE X PARTAKE MEDICATIONS ON 12.
>> X PARTAKE LITIGATION ITEM 12.
>> JAMES TONY ABOUT 540 YESTERDAY IN THE AFTERNOON AND I'M NOT COME BACK I TEXT HIM THIS MORNING JUST SAYING THANKS FOR YOUR CALL. YOU MAY PROCEED.
>> I WAS A TOOTHACHE THAT EVENING BUT I WAS A GOOD AFTERNOON AGENCY MEMBERS.
HERE WE GO. AS YOU KNOW FROM YOUR AGENDA AND YOUR POCKETS BEFORE YOU ON SMALL SCALE, PLANS LIMIT 2023-03 AND PUD TWITTERRIFIC-08 IS A REQUEST FOR FAMILY ON THE PROPERTY COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES SPECIFIED THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES IN THE PUD THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF 260 AND 210 IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR AS YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR MATH IT'S WORTH LOCATED ON YOUR FUTURE LANE USE MATH UNDER STAFF REPORT THESE TO PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH. ACROSS THE STREET ARE BOTH
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COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE AND THESE BOTH HERE AND I'LL GET TO THESE COMMERCIAL USES SO IS THIS ONE ACROSS THE STREET. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP AND AS I STATED THESE TWO PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET ARE DEVELOPING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THIS IS A COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO IT.AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS A MINUTE BUT THERE'S A POWER LINE TO BE DIRECTED.
AS I SAID, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR SMALL-SCALE COMPLEMENT COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL AS SPECIFYING COMMERCIAL USES THROUGH THE PUD. THIS IS COMMITTEE COMMERCIAL, INTENDED TO SERVE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY THE PERSON IS RELATIVELY SMALL 4.3 ACRES AS I TALKED ABOUT AMENITIES THE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET AT THE INTERSECTION THIS IS GRAND CREEK THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE ON THE NORTH EAST SECTION OF THE INTERSECTION IS CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED AS AN PROCESS FOR SERVICE STATION.
THIS IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ON THE SECTION OF THEIR SECTION. I HAVE PUD HERE THIS IS THE FAMILY WHICH HAS RECENTLY FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES BOTH RV STORAGE SORT OF GENERAL BUSINESS COMMERCIAL USE THIS IS TO 10 DOWN HERE. AS YOU SEE FROM YOUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THIS IS A CLOSE-UP OF IT AS YOU SEE PROPOSAL IS SORT OF COMMITTEE COMMERCIAL OFFICE HERE ON THE 210 SIDE PROPERTY AND TWO BUILDINGS ON THE LARGER PART THIS IS A SERVICE ROAD, I'M SORRY, 16 A IT'S OUT HERE NOW. TALK ABOUT THE JUSTIFICATION ON THE SMALL-SCALE COMPLEMENT THIS PROPERTY AS YOU SAW IN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONE IT'S APPROVED PROCESSING IT IS IN DIRECT RELATION TO THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.
IT'S AN AREA THAT IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE USES REQUIRE THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA OFFICE BUSINESSES USES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THOSE AREAS AS YOU KNOW THIS IS A FAST-PACED AREA IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR OF THE COUNTY IN THIS TYPE OF OFFICE COMMERCIAL USES ARE HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER.THIS IS ANOTHER MVP MAP YOU CAN SEE THIS PROTECTION OF WETLANDS IS A WETLAND STRENGTH THAT RUNS DOWN THE MIDDLE FORTUNATELY ON BOTH SIDES THE PROPERTY 16 A AS WELL AS TO 10 YOU SEE WE HAVE RESERVED RIGHT AWAY ALONG TO 10 IN THAT AREA WE ALSO SEE THIS VERY LARGE POWER LINE SORT OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.
WE HAVE MET OTHER GARMENTS OF THE THING FROM THE STAFF REPORT AND ADDRESS ALL STAFF COMMENTS AS WELL AS OPEN COMMENTS FOR TWO PHASES PHASE 1 IS A SECTION ON PRINTED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 5000 OFFICE BUILDING AND THE OTHER TWO ON THE OTHER SIDE TWO OF THE BUILDINGS.
THE PUBLIC DEVELOPED MUCH FASTER THAN THE PHASES STATED BUT PUD'S GIVE THEM TIME TO DEVELOP. THERE'S ONE WAIVER THAT'S REQUESTED THAT PUD THAT WAIVER TO DEVELOPMENT 25 FEET ON THE EASTERN SIDE ON THE EASEMENT ENCUMBRANCE OF PLAN WAS OVER IT DOES ALLOW FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SAME REQUEST IT CAN BE GOING OUT TO 20 FEET. LIKE I SAID THEY ARE ASKING FOR REDUCTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT EDGE 20 FEET IF THE LARGE POWER LINE HERE WHICH MEETS THE SPIRIT BETWEEN THESE TWO DEVELOPMENT IS STILL HAVE THE EDGE ON THE SIDE YOU HAVE THE EDGE ON THE SITE HERE.
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IF SCENIC ON 210 ROADWAY. AGAIN, HERE IS THE PART OF THE PROPERTY HERE THERE'S A POWER LINE EASEMENT. WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND THERE WAS ONE MEMBER WHO SHOWED UP ABOUT. WONDER WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST. I DON'T THINK THAT A RESPONSE IS.AS I SAY IS IN APPROPRIATE USE IN THE AREA BASED ON THIS INTERSECTION AND THE USE THEIR OWN RESTRICTED IN THE PUD AS DESCRIBED.IN CONCLUSION, THE CODE REQUIREMENTS JUSTIFICATION THE REQUEST IS A COMPLEX BUT THE COMPLINE THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THIS READY AREA AND THE SIZE AND LOCATION OF THE LAW SHOW THIS REQUEST TO BE REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE AND THE MENSFORTH FAMILY REQUEST APPROVAL ON THIS AND THE PUD TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.
>> JAMES, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE I READ THROUGH THE APPLICATION TWICE AND CANNOT FIND ANY MENTION OF THIS BUT THE FORMATS YOU SHOW YOU SHOWED TWO OF THEM TODAY WITH THE STOPLIGHT. ON THE WEST, SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE PARCEL THERE IS A PARTIAL RATE THERE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMMERCIAL GENERAL. THERE'S NO MENTION OF THAT ANYWHERE IN YOUR WHOLE APPLICATION. WHAT IS THAT? ? THAT IS NOT MY CLIENTS PROPERTY
>> IT IS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY. IT WAS OWNED COMMERCIAL GENERAL I BELIEVE THE BEGINNING OF OUR ZONING CODE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THIS PROPERTY.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE IS SOME SORT OF MOBILE HOME ON THESE TRIBAL PIECES BUT THIS PIECE IS CURRENTLY NOT BEING USED AS COMMERCIAL GENERAL BUT IT IS I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY NONCONFORMING COMMERCIAL GENERAL PEACE BUT I THINK THE MAIN POINT IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND I THINK YOU SEE THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. BECAUSE WHEN THERE WAS A DISCUSSION IN ALL THE USES EAST ETC. AROUND THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS NEVER MENTIONED SO I JUST WONDERED WHAT IT WAS ON ANY OTHER MAPS EXCEPT FOR PAGE 4, 29 AND 32. I WAS JUST VERY CURIOUS.
MY SECOND QUESTION IS YOU MENTIONED THREE 5000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDINGS THE STATEMENTS AND THEIR LIKE 25,000 SQUARE FEET.
>> YES, SIR, TO INTO THE QUESTION THROUGH THE CHAIR THE WAY THE SITE PLAN WORKS IN OUR COMPLINE WE ARE ALLOWED A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED ON THE PROPERTY AND ON THIS PROPERTY OVER HERE ON THIS NORTHERN SECTION THE SOUTHERN SECTION BASED ON THE WETLAND THEY COULD HAVE 35,000 THE ONLY REASON WE PUT THE TAX BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THIS PHASE OVER TIME 10 YEARS THAT THIS COULD BE DEVELOPED THE WORLD CHANGES AND WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU TO ASK FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO CHANGE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE. HIS RIGHT HERE IS THE PLANT YOU WILL RECOMMEND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THREE 5000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDINGS. YES SIR, THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS. I GUESS MY FIRST WHY ARE WE DOING PUD ON THIS?
>> IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR WE HAVE TO DO THE PUD.
>> MY NEXT QUESTION IS CAN YOU GO TO THE AERIAL, PLEASE.
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>> GO BACK TO THAT OTHER ONE. 16 A USED TO NOT COME TO AN INTERSECTION IT USED TO MAKE A BIG ROUND CURVE OVER TO THE INTERSECTION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT TOP LINE STRAIGHT IN WITH THE COUNTY CAME ALONG AND DECIDED THEY WANTED TO DO THE INTERSECTION AND BUILD SERVICE FOR WHICH IS WHAT USED TO BE 16 A SERVICE. 16 A ACADEMY SET LOOP INTERSECTION. HIS THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD IS THAT VACANT?
>> YET ANOTHER VACANT PIECE OF LAND NEXT TO IT ALL OF WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPECULATE WHERE THEY ARE AT THE MOMENT. SO FOR CHURCH OR RESIDENTIAL. IT SEEMS VERY ODD TO ME THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL OFFICES CG TO THE WEST AND ALL THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COME PAST THE SUBDIVISIONS AVAILABLE ROAD TO GET TO THOSE USES.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE CG TO THE WEST WILL HAVE ENOUGH FRONTAGE. I GUESS THAT'S 210.
SO I WILL ASK STAFF IS IT POSSIBLE AND IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED AND THERE'S A CUL-DE-SAC ON WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD 16 A SERVICE ROAD THERE'S A CUL-DE-SAC WHERE THE OLD INTERSECTION THIS ALL EXISTS SO I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MOVE THE CUL-DE-SAC HAVE THE APPLICANT WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC TO THE EAST AND HAVE THEIR DRIVEWAY NOT TO THE NEW 16 BUT THE SOUTHERLY 16 A SO WITH RESIDENTIAL USES TO GO IN YOU WILL HAVE TRAFFIC PAST THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION.
>> IF I MAY, THIS IS WHERE THE BYWAY IS COMING IN. FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IS COMING TO HERE. AT THE MAPS OF THAT. DOT OWN LANDS HERE AND I CAN PUT UP FROM MY PACKET. ANYWAY, THAT'S GOING TO BE IT'S DEVELOPING THAT'S WAY YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT OUT, AS WELL.
>> JAMES IS CORRECT THAT THE FIRST COAST ESPECIALLY WILL HAVE THE PROJECT THIS MAP SHOWS THE CONFIGURATION OF IT. FOR REFERENCE THIS PROJECT IS OFTEN HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE ROADS LEADING TO THIS INTERCHANGE WILL BE RIGHT IN THAT REGION SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING ANY RENOVATION TO THE EXISTING MAP WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH F DOT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T CROSS ANY PLANS THAT THEY HAVE OR THE ADJACENT SYSTEMS. THE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE EXPORTED IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO ANSWER.
>> DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS YOU HAVE THE RETENTION PONDS SO THE DRIVER RIGHT TO THE RETENTION POND. WE KNOW WAS WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE NEW PROPOSED 16 A WERE TURNS INTO 16 AND THE WESTERLY 16 A SPURS? WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN? WILL IT ACCRUE AFTER THAT OR A CUL-DE-SAC?
>> THE CUL-DE-SAC THERE NOW IS INTENDED TO IVAN- RELATED BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WERE
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LOOKING AT WITH THE DEVELOPER BUT AGAIN WE HAVE TO COORDINATE MAKE SURE IS NOT GOING TO GET CROSSED FOR THE WHOLE REGION HOW IT CAN INTERACT WITH THE INTERCHANGE.>> IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE CUL-DE-SAC AND CONNECT TO THE 60'S FOR THAT WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE THEY COULD GET ACCESS AND NOT QUOTE UNQUOTE GOING THROUGH FUTURE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
>> I THINK THE ONLY, I DON'T THINK THERE. TO CUT THIS OFF WHEN THEY DID AGAIN ON THE TRANSPORTATION BUT I THINK THE COUNTRY DELETED THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE IS VERY CLOSE TO THIS INTERSECTION GOING AROUND THIS CURVE HERE IN THE ONLY PROPERTIES HERE AS YOU SO IS THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL PEACE RIGHT HERE, OUR PEACE, THE POWERLINE EASEMENT AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD PROPERTY. OF COURSE IF THAT EVER TRIED TO DEVELOP IT WOULD COME BACK AS A PUD TO YOU BECAUSE OF 210 HERE AND THAT'S WERE THE ONLY OTHER PROPERTY ALONG HERE COMES UP WITH HIM OUT TO 16 AND. I DON'T KNOW IS IS AN ENTRANCE RAMP?
>> IT'S ONE OF THE SPURS THAT WILL CONNECT TO 16 A.
>> SO I THINK THERE IS WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THERE THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON THERE NOW BECAUSE SOUTHERLY DEVELOPING. HOWEVER, I THINK GOING FORWARD REALLY LIKE I SAID COMMERCIAL GENERAL PEACE NEXT TO US WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE I ASSUME THIS WOULD BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW THAT PEACE WHICH HAS TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THEN THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD PROPERTY.
>> WHAT DOES STEPH THINK ABOUT THIS? THAT DRIVEWAY FEELS AWKWARD TO ME. BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO IT THERE'S NO ACCESS FROM THAT SIDE.
>> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW MAYBE AN ATTRIBUTE ANALYST THAT I HAVE BEEN STEPPING INTO APPRECIATE THAT ANALYZED THAT MR. WHITEHOUSE HAVE HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS?
>> I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BUT I THINK PART OF IT WAS OF COURSE MY APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH TO CONNECT BUT I THINK WHEN THE WETLAND ISSUE CAME UP THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO PRESERVE THE WETLANDS AND I THINK OPPOSITE THE RECOMMENDED 210, AND OFFICERS FROM I THINK IN THE END PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS NOT DUMPING PEOPLE STRAIGHT ONTO 16 A THERE'S AN AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE DILUTION THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF USES. TRAFFIC TRIPS BUT I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT THEY HAVE TO GO ON THE SERVICE ROAD WHICH IS A DISTANCE THAT ALLOWS STACKING OUT THERE TO GET ON 16 A THIS IS NOT A HIGH LIKE OPERATING A COSCO OR A BIG BOX STORE WITH A B A LOT BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY THE ACCESS TO THE DRIVEWAY.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
>> I DIDN'T ASK BUT I ASSUME NO ONE ELSE HAS QUESTIONS? LET'S COME BACK, I WILL MAKE A SUGGESTION. AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHETHER THIS GOES OR JUST A SUGGESTION.
I THINK STAFF WITH PROPERTIES WITH THE CG PIECE IN THIS THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST. BASED ON THIS MAP I'M NOT SURE THERE'S TOO MUCH SPAGHETI AND
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NOT ENOUGH MEATBALLS TO FIGURE IT OUT. THE MOTION COULD INCLUDE THAT OR NOT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS POINT.>> I WOULD POINT OUT THAT CG PERSON DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY CONNECTION TO 210.
>> THE APPLICANTS PARCEL IS IN THE PATH.
>> ALL TAKE A SHOT AT IT. MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL COMPLIMENT 2020 -03 MENSFORTH FAMILY ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT BY STAFF IF THE STAFF LOOK INTO THE CG TO THE EAST. WEST.
>> MOTION BY HENRY. SECOND BY ELVIS. ANY DISCUSSION? HENRY, I WILL ASK WITH THE MOTION WAS TO THE DRIVEWAY?
>> YES, TO THE WEST. >> AND THAT'S GOOD FOR THE SECOND?
>> IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION PROBABLY A GOOD POINTTHAT WE BROUGHT UP THERE , TOO.
>> MR. CHAIR, PLEASE CONFIRM FOR THE RECORD IF THERE WAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> I APOLOGIZE. I MISSED IT A FEW TIMES MYSELF.
>> YEAH, I HEARD IT. >> READY TO REGISTER THE VOTE.
THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. HENRY GVA ANOTHER MOTION.
>> PUD 2023-08 SAME THING PUD COMMERCIAL FACT FINDINGS ALSO INCLUDES PREVIOUS PROPERTY
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ISSUES.>> ALL RIGHT, MOTION BY HENRY IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY ELVIS.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE REGISTER THE VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU.
I'LL BE GOOD TO FINISH ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A COMPREHENSIVE LAND AMENDMENT, ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION? MR. BARNETT.
>> DOUG BURNETT MAIN STREET HERE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. HOPEFULLY, GET MY CARD.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW SOMEONE THE FUTURE OF A PUD APPLICATION. I WANT TO BE UPFRONT ABOUT IT. THIS IS AN ENTITY THAT'S BEEN THERE BEFORE YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES IT'S A LEADER IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT VERY WELL-KNOWN BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS. EVERYTHING THEY DEVELOP MOST EVERYTHING THEY EVER ACQUIRED THEY NEVER SAW. WHITFIELD IS HERE AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY ONE OF THE MANAGERS AND (NAME?) IS ALSO HERE TODAY.
THE PROJECT OVER 11 MILLION SQUARE FEET MIGHT BE 12 OR 13 MILLION SQUARE FEET AND THEY CONTINUE TO GROW AND ALWAYS IN THIS AREA. PROJECT AREA FOR THIS MIDDLE PART OF THE COUNTY JUST LOOKING AT THE OVERALL COUNTY MAP IF USUAL DOWN A LITTLE BETTER LOCATION TALK ABOUT GOING ON STATE ROAD 16 AND GETTING TO THE ENTRANCE OF WHERE SEVERAL
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HE GOES TO THE NORTH AND 16 AND 16 A SPLITS. SOON AS YOU SEE THE ROUNDABOUT GOING NORTH ON SILVERLEAF ON THE PARCEL. OUR PARCEL IS JUST OFF THE CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION. MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN IS PRETTY BEAUTIFUL NEW ACE HARDWARE WITH FURNITURE CENTER CONNECTED TO THE ACE HARDWARE. THE PROJECT ACTUALLY GOES INTO THAT PUD AND THEN TO THE EAST OF US AS A CHURCH SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL AGAIN YOU CAN SEE JUST TO THE NORTH HEADED UP AND YOU CAN SEE STATE ROAD 16.OBVIOUSLY, LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THIS AREA. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GREEN AREA BETWEEN PROJECT HOMES BETWEEN THEIR WITCHES WETLAND CONSERVATION AND I VISITED THE HOMES TO THE NORTH FURTHER ON 16 A FORDS CREEK, THOSE PROJECT.
TAKEN A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK YOU CAN SEE THE CHURCH NEXT TO US AND JUST TO BE LAST OF HER SITE IS ACTUALLY THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT WRITE AND WRITE OUT GOING INTO THE ACE HARDWARE PUD.
SO THE PORTION OF THE PDP BILL. LOOK AT OUR COMPANY HAS A PLAN I THINK WITHIN YOUR PACKAGE ORIGINALLY CHOSE 120 IS WERE SEEKING TO INCREASE TO. THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD ONE OF THE LOCATIONS BEFORE YOU EVER ORIGINALLY I THINK WESTER BROUGHT WINTER LIKE A MONTH AND OF THIS APPLICATION WE ACTUALLY DETERMINED TO THE PUD PROCESS WERE NOT ON PERCENT AT THIS SITE SO WE REDUCED. TODAY IF NOT HUNDRED 20 PERCENT THAT 90 PERCENT.LOOKING AT THE SITE WE COME BACK THIS IS JUST FRESNO TALK ABOUT FILLING IN THIS AREA.
COMPANY HAS A PLAN UNDER OUR CURRENT CONFERENCE OF PLAN DESIGNATION COMMERCIAL AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR COMMERCIAL SPECIFICALLY AND THAT ALLOWED FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY NEAR HOUSES SO THIS IS WITHIN THAT ALLOWANCE.
LOOKING AT OUR SITE PLAN JUMPING SO YOU CAN SEE WERE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO DO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT MY CLIENT BUILDS THE PROJECTS, THEY DON'T SELL THESE.SO YOU CAN SEE AND KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE TO GET THE END OF THE DAY. YOU SEE SELF STORAGE FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE, TWO RETENTION PONDS AND THEN WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO CONTAIN THE BUFFERING THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE NORTH WEST SECTOR REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT'S ON TOP AND OBVIOUSLY TO THE EAST THERE IS A CHURCH, TO THE SOUTH OF US IS A VERY SIGNIFIANT CONSERVATION PRESERVATION OF THE KING AND BEAR AND THE HOST ARE ALREADY OTHER SO HE DOES WANT TO STAY THERE. AND THEN AGAIN TO THE WEST OF US IS ACE HARDWARE.
PTHE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS SITE IS LOOKING GENERAL ITSELF STORAGE YET THEY LEFT IT IS A RETAIL SHOPS WHICH WOULD ALSO BE ALLOWED UNDER THAT TYPE OF DESIGNATION.
YOU CAN PUT ABOUT 20,000 SQUARE-FOOT STRAPPING CENTER ON THIS SITE AND PARKING WHICH YOU CAN DELAY SO NICELY. WHAT THAT DOES IS IT GIVES YOU PROBABLY NOT AS PLEASANT OF A PROJECT AS SELF STORAGE WOULD BE ON THIS SITE. SO THE SELF STORAGE I KNOW YOU HEARD IN THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE TALK ABOUT SELF STORAGE IT'S MINIMAL TRAFFIC, LOW NOIS , LOW IMPACT, IT DOESN'T CAUSE A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HIS LAST IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC FACILITIES COMPARED TO MOST OTHER USES ALLOWED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.TO GIVE YOU A COMPARISON TO A GENERATION JUST A SERVICE STATION 642 TIMES
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WERE TRIPS THEMSELVES STORAGE. SO MIND-BOGGLING IT REALLY IS SO FEW TRIPS.GO BACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WE LOOK AT SELF STORAGE OUR PEAK HOUR 10 AND 17 TRIPS VERSUS WHAT IS GENERATED AT A SHOPPING CENTER IF YOU LOOK AT A SHOPPING CENTER RESTAURANT YOU COULD HAVE 242 TRIPS INTO SIGNIFICANT LESS IMPACT AND THE SITE WORKS BEAUTIFULLY AS WE SHOULD ON THE DRAWING. ALSO, THE INDUSTRY ITSELF THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR SELF STORAGE THIS IS A SECURE FACILITY THAT'S HUGELY IMPORTANT PEOPLE AT THE STORE THERE GOODS IN YOUR STRUCTURE IF YOU HAVE GREAT SECURITY. SO SECURITY IS REALLY HIGH BECAUSE OF THAT AND ALSO GENERATES LESS DEMAND FOR PUBLIC SERVICES FEW PEOPLE GO THERE VERY OFTEN AND THEN YOU'VE GOT MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROACTIVITY, VACANCY, STRUCTURE. THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES YOU SEE FROM SO STORAGE THE DESIGN IS ACTUALLY MUCH BETTER THAN THE RIGHT BUT EVENTUALLY CONTEXT ON THE SITE HOW IT FITS ONTO THE SITE YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE STILL FIT. EVERYTHING, THE GREEN AREAS ARTERIES CAN SEE THE GREEN AREAS ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SITE TO FUNCTION FROM THE BACKSIDE AS WELL WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE ACTUALLY BUFFERING.
THE SITE IS GREAT AND JUST PUTTING IT INTO THE AERIAL SO YOU SEE HOW IT LAYS OUT SO IT REALLY WHEN WE SUBMIT TO YOU IS A GREAT USE FOR THE SITE. MORE JUSTIFIES THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. IN THIS CONFERENCE OF PLAN A MOMENT WITH MANY JURISDICTIONS THEY DON'T MEASURE THE AREA WHAT'S THE FOOTPRINT COVER. BUT THE COUNTY MEASURES TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE STRUCTURE FOR THE SITE. MAJOR SECTIONS LOOK AT IT AS THE DO YOU MEAN THE SETBACKS? DO ME THE PARKING PERFORMANCE? THEY BUILT A STRUCTURE BASED ON DO YOU MEET THE SETBACKS AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AS SELF SURGERY HAS SUCH A LOW NEED FOR PARKING THAT THE STRUCTURE IS ABLE TO GO ON THE SIZE.
SO STEP OUT OF THE ORDINARY IS FREE, FOR THE STRUCTURES THAT ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH-- TO PUT THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURES. WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WANT TO EQUIVOCATION REGARDING THE AREA RATIO IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE NOT AWARE OF FOR AREA RATIO IS A PUBLICATION BECAUSE FOR AREA RATIO IS THE BULK OF THE BUILDING RELATIVE TO THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THAT'S A PRETTY STANDARD TERM IS CAN YOU REQUIRE FIVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
>> I AM NOT SAYING YOUR FOR THE COUNTY'S DEFINITION IS WRONG. BUT THE COUNTIES RATIO X ALLOWED ON THE SITE DON'T LIMIT IT BECAUSE YOU SETBACKS IN YOUR PARKING AND THIS COULD FORCE YOUR STRUCTURE TO BE SMALLER. OBVIOUSLY, HEIGHT SETBACKS AND PARKING DEMAND THAT REALLY LIMITS YOUR STRUCTURE SO IT REALLY IS A UNIQUE SITUATION SO STORAGE WHERE YOU CAN PUT A LARGER STRUCTURE. GOING BACK WHEN YOU LOOK AT WE WANT NONRESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE WANT THE TAX REVENUES FOR NONRESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY BENEFITS.
THEN WE WANT NONRESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL TO PAY TAXES AND ACTUALLY HAVE A DREAM FOR SERVICES TO THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE YOU REALLY GET TO THIS USE IS FANTASTIC GENERATES FOR THE COUNTY AND POSITIVE REVENUE.
>> THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. ONE THING I LOOKED THROUGH OVER AND OVER AND 147 PAGE APPLICATION THIS POINT IN HISTORY IN THEIR ABOUT SAINT
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AUGUSTINE SUGGEST COUNTING ALL OF THAT. BECAUSE I CANNOT FIND THE HEIGHT SO WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING IS IT 35 FEET OR WHAT? COULD NOT FIND IT ANYWHERE.>> IT IS 1000 FOOTPRINT TIMES THREE STORIES ABOUT 20,000 SQUARE-FOOT.
IT SLOTS AND ABOUT 50 FEET. IT COULD BE 45 WE WILL ADDRESS IT IN THE PUD.
THUS THE HEIGHT IN THE NORMAL HEIGHT YOU WOULD SEE IN THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE.
>> THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED I DID NOT VOTE FOR IT BUT STATE ROAD 207 A FEW MONTHS BACK THAT WAS ABOUT THE SAME ABOUT 47 OR MORE.
>> THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT HEIGHT SITUATION IS THAT HEIGHT WAS ALREADY ALLOWED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT THEY DID NOT HAVE A PUD THIS WAS GOING TO COME BACK FOR TRANSMITTAL IT COMES BACK TO YOU, EXCUSE ME, THIS IS TRANSMITTAL GOES TO BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THEN COMES BACK AND THAT THE AUCTIONEERING IS WHEN YOU WOULD ACTUALLY SEE SO THAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT BUFFERING IS LIKE AND WHAT THE HEIGHT STRUCTURES.
>> SO 47 OR 49 FEET IN HEIGHT TO THE HEIGHT OF THE CHURCH IN STORE?
>> THE CHURCH IS ONLY ONE STORY AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE DRAWING IT HAS THE TYPICAL CHURCH LAYOUT HAS BEEN LAID OUT AS A CROSSROADS ONLY SO WIDE SO THE PITCH OF THE ROOF IS NOT ALL THAT HIGH.
>> I DID NOT THINK SO. I SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT THERE BUT I DID NOT HAVE TIME.
SO WHAT ARE THE STRUCTURES IN THE VICINITY OUT THERE ARE THAT ALL?
>> I ANTICIPATED YOU ASKING THAT TRIED TO PULL UP BUT FOR SOME REASON (ALL DAY LONG.
ST. JOHN'S BEAUTY TO PULL UP BUT TWO DIFFERENT PEERS TODAY IT DID NOT COME UP.
TO GET THAT HEIGHT VISUAL FOR YOU. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER.
NEXT TO US THE HARDWARE STORE PERHAPS --.
>> I HAVE BEEN TO THE HARDWARE STORE MANY TIMES IT'S NOT VERY TALL.
FOR EXAMPLE, DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TALL THE HIGH SCHOOL IS?
>> IT IS TALL. AND THEN THE BUILDING YOU BENEFICIAL THE CORNER OF 60 AND 16 A. A MAP OF THE CORNER OF 16 A AND 16.
>> I AGREE WITH ALL YOUR TRAFFIC STATISTICS SO THAT'S GOOD.
>> THAT'S AS CLOSE AS I HAVE GOT. IT'S ALL LIME GREEN.
>> SILVERLEAF GOES OFF TO THE NORTH? THREE OR FOUR STORIES STORAGE GOING IN RIGHT IN THE CORNER?
>> IS A FLORIDA AREA RATIO OF 26 PERCENT. SO IT IS THERE.
THE HARDWARE STORE IS SIX PERCENT. SO YOU ARE NOW SCALING BACK AS IT SAID IN OUR APPLICATION IS RECOMMENDED STAFF PART 80 PERCENT AND IT WAS GOING TO BE 8420?
>> WE NEVER MAINTAINED THE NUMBER OF 120 AND THEN WE REALIZED WE COULD DROP IT DOWN.
>> SO WHAT ARE WE GOING ON? VOTING ON?
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>> IN YOUR ACTUAL AGENDA PACKAGE YOU'LL SEE 120 PERCENT RATIO.
THERE'S A HANDOUT THAT SAYS 90 PERCENT.
>> I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT YOU TALK ABOUT FLORIDA AREA RATIO DOES INCLUDE THE BULK, MASS AND HEIGHT BUILDING. NOT JUST THE FOOTPRINT. THE ONE ON 207 I REALLY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS COMPARABLE. THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED A WHILE BACK ABOUT A MONTH AGO IT WASN'T A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PARK WITH A DIFFERENT FOOTPRINT AND I DID VOTE FOR THAT.THIS ONE IT SEEMS TO ME IN MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT THE HEIGHT THERE IS A BATTLE IS THE HEIGHT THERE IS INCOMPATIBLE. THAT'S MY OPINION. ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE ONE THE CHURCHES FRONT OF OVER THERE AT SILVERLEAF IT'S GOING ON, IS LARGE AND 60 PERCENT IF A.
THE HARDWARE STORE MAYBE IT'S IN THE SAME SPOT ABOUT 60 PERCENT.
>> I WILL SAY THE HARDWARE STORE SELF STORAGE STRUCTURE IS BEING CONSTRUCTED AND THAT PUD TEXT WHICH IS CALLED -- IT'S TALKING ABOUT 55 FEET IN HEIGHT.
>> YES, SIR, THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
>> WELL THAT CHANGES THINGS IN MY OPINION.
>> I AM CLICKING IMAP RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S ORDINANCE 2021.
>> IT'S THE BIG SQUARE THAT MR. MANN TAKE VITO WAS DISCUSSING.
>> I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE ACRES WE APPROVED 130,000 SQUARE FEET STORAGE AND THE NUMBER OF RV WAS SOMETHING LIKE 2 I THINK? STEPH, DO YOU ARE MEMBER THAT?
>> YOU TALK ABOUT THE GRAD' PROJECT?
>> I THINK HAD ADDITIONAL USES BESIDES THE WAREHOUSE BUT I DON'T KNOW THE RATIO.
>> IT HAS SOME TYPE STRUCTURES WILL BE LOOKING AT THE MVP MAP.
>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY SPEAK. THAT BEAUTY ALLOWS FOR IT SAYS THAT THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE USE OF GENERAL CONSTRUCTION FOR PERSONAL 150,400 SQUARE FEET.
COMMERCIAL SPACE AMONGST THE LINKS ACROSS THE SITE. THE USE THE FACILITY CONSISTS ADMINISTRATIVE AND STORAGE 222,000 SQUARE FEET SECOND MAIN BUILDING BOX ACTIVITIES 10,292 SQUARE FEET SELF STORAGE AND THEN DEVELOP AN AREA B 462,000 SQUARE FEET OF A BOAT AND RV STORAGE.
>> MAY I ASK, TERESA, IS THAT USUALLY GOING TO BE PART OF THAT, CAN YOU TELL?
>> BUILDING HEIGHT SHOULD NOT EXCEED 40 FEET ALONG STATE ROAD 16 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 11 THE MAIN BUILDING MAYBE 55 FEET.
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>> THERE YOU GO. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> I HAVE ONE REQUEST. THE TESTAMENT READS THIS APPLICATION SEEKS THE TEXT LIMIT TO THE COMPASS OF PLAN TO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO TO 70 PERCENT TO MAXIMUM 90 PERCENT COULD BE AT THE WORD ONLY TO THE SENTENCE?
>> YES, SIR. APOLOGIZE EXCUSING. I THINK THE MAIN TENANT OF THE TEXT NEED TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE IT'S NOT TO LIMIT IT TO ONLY BE SELF STORAGE IF THEY WANT TO DIFFERENT USE THE TEXT AMENDMENT SECRETLY TO SELF STORAGE.
>> I'M SUGGESTING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT 90 PERCENT APPLIES TO JUST SELF STORAGE. I'M NOT TRYING TO LIMIT THE APPLICATION OF JUST TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR THAT 90 PERCENT IS FOR SELF STORAGE.
>> THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO HER THAT WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
>> IF YOU ADD THE WORD ONLY. OR YOU CAN ADD THE WORD ONLY AFTER THAT 90 PERCENT.
>> THAT WOULD BE MY RECOGNITION.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.
>> BY THE WAY, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH WE DID COMMUNITY AND ONLY TWO PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
APPROXIMATELY, TWO PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
>> I WILL MOVE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FOR COVERAGE OF PLAN AMENDMENT 2020- 02 STATE ROAD 16 SELF STORAGE FOR FINDINGS WE WANT TO ADD CATCHWORD IS, IT'S AFTER THE 90 PERCENT.
>> FIRST PAGE OF THE HANDOUT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING.
>> OKAY THE APPLICATION COPIES OF PLAN TO ALLOW TO INCREASE OF THE FLORIDA AREA RATIO FROM 70 TO MAXIMUM 90 WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT IN?
>> MOTION BY HENRY IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY ELVIS.
>> I KNOW YOU HAVE A PUD REZONING REQUEST AND TO THE COUNTY AND THE CURRENTLY VIEWING THAT. IS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT THE STAFF CAN REVEAL ABOUT THA ? IS THATINAPPROPRIATE? IS IT PREMATURE I DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE YOU ALL ARE VIEWING THAT? WHAT YOU'RE THINKING IS AND CAVEATS ARE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PUD REQUEST.
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>> AT THIS POINT I DON'T GET THE COMMENT TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT'S IN THE REVIEW PROCESS.
>> WE HAV
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