Jun 01, 2023 Planning and Zoning Agency

[Call meeting to order.]

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>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE STAND FOR THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL." ( (INDISCERNIBLE)

>> ALL RIGHT. MEGHAN, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC

NOTICE STATEMENT. >> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CON SARNS WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY'S AREA OF JUST DIKS. AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK, PLEASE DO SO BY A SPEAKER CARD AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER.

SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED INTO STAFF. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING FOR A LENGTH OF TIME DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH IS 3 MINUTES. SPEAKER SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NO NOT, THE FACT THAT THE TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED IN THE AGENCY IN DETERMINES THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONIMENT IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON ANY MATTER DURING THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON SHOULD HAVE A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, IS MADE WHICH INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.

ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE SUBMITTED DURING THE HEARING SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, FORMS OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS. THE RECORD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, OR AGENCY MEMBERS OR THE COUNTY IN ANY REVIEW OF APPEAL RELATING TO THE ITEM. BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 6/16/2022, 7/21/2022, 8/4/2022, 12/1/2022 and 3/16/2023]

ATTACKS. >> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. BOARD MEMBERS, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, MINUTES FOR THE MEETINGS OF JUNE 16TH, 2022, JULY 21ST, 2022, ALL 1ST, 2022, AND MARCH 16TH, 2023, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE?

>> MOTION. >> A MOTION BY MEGHAN, A SECOND

BY JACK, ANY DISCUSSION? >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[1. ZVAR 2023-08 Rundle Residence.]

>> (CHORUS OF AYES)

>> THAT MOTION PASSES. >> CHAIR: AT THIS TIME, WE'RE OPENING THE FLOOR FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU COULD COMMENT ON ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR NOT ON THE AGENDA. THERE'LL BE A TIME TO SPEAK AS EACH ITEM IS BROUGHT UP, ALSO, DO WE HAVE AYBODY HERE TO MAKE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS POINT IN

TIME. >> THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS.

>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM ONE AND

MR. SUNDBERG? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M MIKE SUNDBERG, I'M HERE FOR BRUCE AND BONNIE RUNDEL. MY ADDRESS IS 5544 DOVER CREST LANE, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, 32258.

WE'RE LOOKING TO GET A VARIANCE FOR A SECOND FRONT YARD, THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT IN A VARIANCE FOR THE HOUSE, I'LL SHOW PHOTOS, THEY'RE TRYING TO PLACE IT ON THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE PROPERTY WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IN THE GARAGE. THIS IS A SITE PLAN WITH THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN WITHOUT THE GARAGE. YOU SEE THE CORNER THERE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE GARAGE ABOVE LENGTHY DRIVE THERE. THERE'S THE PROPOSED GARAGE. THE AERIAL VIEW AND WE HAVE A BETTER ONE WITH THE GARAGE ON. THERE YOU

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GO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> SIR? >> YES.

>> WOULD YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THE HARDSHIP IS HERE, WHY THERE ARE NO OTHER SPOTS FOR THAT TO GO.

>> WELL, THE FRONT YARD IS LARGE AND BEAUTIFUL, BUT, THEY TON DON'T WANT TO PUT IT IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. THE RIGHT SIDE, IT'S GOT A SEPTIC TANK AND A DRAIN FILL THERE. AND THE BACKYARD, OFF OF THE LAKE VIEW, THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER BUILDINGS, THAT WOULD PUT THE GARAGE WAY IN THE BACK WHERE THEY COULDN'T ACCESS IT FROM THE FRONT, JUST WALKING OUT OF THE DOOR OF THE HOUSE.

>> CHAIR: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> CHAIR: DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> NO. >> CHAIR: DO WE HAVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS?

>> NO. >> CHAIR: READY FOR A MOTION.

[2. REZ 2023-01 RV & Boat Storage of St. Augustine.]

>> MOTION TO APPROVE DISTRICT 1, ZVAR 2023-08 RUNDLE RESIDENCE. BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIR: DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING SO ADD? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DISCUSSION? >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S REGISTER

THE VOTE. >> CHAIR: OKAY, THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. MS. TAYLOR YOU'RE UP. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE ON ITEM 2?

>> YES. AFTER TALKING WITH LEGAL, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ONE, I HAVE A CONFLICT AND FILLED OUT THE NECESSARY

PAPERWORK. >> CHAIR: SO, I'LL PUT ON THE RECORD THAT HENRY GREENE DISCLOSED TODAY THAT HE, UM, THE ITEM BEFORE THE AGENCY IS NEAR TO A SPECIAL GAIN OR LOSS TO HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATE, STEVE BENINGER ON THIS ITEM.

>> CORRECT. >> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MS. TAYLOR, WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSA STREET. THE APPLICANT IS WITH ME AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, RYAN CARTER AS WELL AS THE CIVIL ENGINEER, BOB HARRIGAN. SO, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE HERE TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU. THIS IS THE BOAT AND RV STORE OF ST. AUGUSTINE REZONING, RETRYING TO REZONE FROM OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL, TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, WITH CONDITIONS. I'M SURE YOU'VE READ THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE A LOT OF CONDITIONS.

THIS IS NORTH OF WATSON ROAD, SOUTH OF WILDWOOD DRIVE, AND A GENERAL KIND OF AREA THAT'S STARTING TO PICK UP ONE IT'S COMMERCIAL. THIS GETS YOU A LITTLE CLOSER, IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU, THE, UM, WHERE IT'S WEST OF IT, UP TO HERE IS THE PUBLIX, WITH ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. BELLTARA DRIVE HERE. AND THEN STSTONE WATER LANE, AND WITTEN CIRCLE TO THE WEST. AND THAT GETS YOU CLOSER TO BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE. YOU COULD AGAIN, SEE THE CLASSIC CAR, AND THEN A SELF-STORAGE AND A CVS PHARMACY.

THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT GOING IN FOR A SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH I KNOW YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH. THE WOODBRIDGE SUBDIVISION IS BEHIND IT. AND THERE'S A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY HERE IS RESIDENTIAL, BUT, SOME IS ZONED CI, WHICH, I'LL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. SO, IN THE MIXED USE. IT IT SHOWS THE AREAS OF MIXED USE, WHICH, PRETTY MUCH FOLLOWS US-1, EXCEPT FOR THE CRESCENT TECHNICAL, THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF ZONING, IN THE AREA BEYOND. AND I'VE GIVEN YOU A CLOSUP AND SHOWS THE OVATION AND PROFESSIONAL THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT SOT SOUTH OF IT, THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. FOR THE CLASSIC CAR, AS WELL AS, BEHIND IT, THERE, FOR THE BOAT AND RV

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AND THIS CORNER, IS, AGAIN, FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER. SO, IT'S 4.22 ACRES, AND IT'S WITH CONDITIONS THAT ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USES INITIALLY INCLUDING THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE. WE INITIALLY FILED THIS AS A COMMERCIAL GENERAL WITH A COMPANION SPECIAL USE BUT REVISED THE APPLICATION AFTER WE TALKED WITH STAFF AND WENT THROUGH THAT AND WE WORKED AROUND WITH SOME CONDITIONS TO KIND OF, WE THOUGHT SOME OF THE USES IN CI MAY BE A LITTLE TOO INTENSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S CI IN THE AREA. SO, THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO IS TO ELIMINATE ALL THE USES UNDER THE INT INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USE CATEGORY, AND THEN, THE ALLOWED USE CATEGORIES WOULD BE THE OFFICES OF PROFESSIONAL, NEIGHBOR, BUSINESS, GENERAL BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL, CULTURAL, INSTITUTIONAL, AND RESIDENTIAL. THAT WOULD ELIMINATE ALL THE OTHER USE CATEGORIES WHICH ARE PERMITTED UNDER CI ZONING WHICH WOULD BE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD AND PUBLIC SERVICE, GENERAL PUBLIC SERVICE, REGIONAL, BUSINESS, AND COMMERCIAL, AND REGIONAL AND CULTURAL, AS WELL. SO, WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL SCREENING TO THE FRONT TO PROVIDE EXTRA ROW OF EVERGREEN CANOPY TREES FOR THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THAT WITH THESE CONDITIONS TO HELP PROVIDE FOR THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE AREA. IT'S ACTUALLY THE PARCEL'S ACTUALLY THREE PARCELS THAT WERE COMBINED AT AN AVERAGE DEPTH OF 450'AND 410 FEET ACROSS, IT WAS REZONED IN 2005, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OF THAT. AND OVER THIS TIME, NEITHER HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND ANYBODY INTERESTED IN OFFICE SPACE AT THAT POINT. MY CLIENT WOULD WANT TO DEVELOP THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE AND HOPEFULLY, IN THE FUTURE, POSSIBLE OFFICE AND RETAIL TYPE OF SPACE. THIS IS LOCATED IN ESTABLISHED MIXED USE DISTRICT AND HAS A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES. SIMILAR ZONINGS, PERIPHERAL RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT FOR THE USE. AND I'VE ALREADY, KIND OF GIVEN YOU ALL THE THINGS IT'S ACROSS FROM AND DOWN FROM. IT IS ADJACENT TO TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN WOODRIDGE SUBDIVISION. AND THAT'S ZONED CI. AND YOU COULD SEE THE RELATIONSHIP TO ALL OF THOSE PARTICULAR USES. AND I JST TOOK THIS OFF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A REALLY, CLOSUP LOOK, TOO, OF THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE SUBDIVISION, IT'S ACTUALLY, REALLY ONE LOT, JUST A PORTION OF THE OTHER. AND ALTHOUGH THERE PART LOOKS LIKE IT'S PART OF HERE, IT'S ACTUALLY ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL. IT'S NOT FOR

RESIDENTIAL. >>

>> SO, WE HAVE A SITE PLAN. SINGLE COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY FROM US-1. AND, JUST TO NOTE, THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR US-1 IS, THE, PAVEMENT IS TOWARDS THE EAST SIDE, SO, THERE'S 84 FEET BETWEEN THE BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHICH MAKES IT THE STACKING, LONGER, BUT, ONE OTHER THING IT ALSO DOES, IS IT PROVIDES FOR TREES THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND I'LL SHOW YOU TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT MEANS, IT'S NOT 84 FEET OF TREES, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GRASS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT, DEFINITELY. AND JUST SHOWING YOU A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, IT HAS A DRY RETENTION FACILITY IN THE REAR PART OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE 20-FOOT BUFFERING TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THAT SINGLE ACCESS. THE FRONT AREA IS ACTUALLY, UM, RANGES FROM 36 TO 15-FEET IN WIDTH, IT'S NOT EQUAL FOR THE BUFFER AREA IN THE FRONT. AND, AGAIN, WE HAVE BUFFERING TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS 10'-20'TO THE NORTH AS WELL. SO, QUITE HEAVILY BUFFERED, AND BUFFERED 20-FEET

TO THE WEST AS WELL. >> THIS IS JUST A PICTURE, COMING FROM BELLATARA PARKWAY, AND JUST TO SHOW TO THE WAY THAT THE TREES ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THIS IS THE UTILITY LINE THAT GOES DOWN THE PROPERTY LINE SO THAT YOU COULD SEE ALL THE WAY DOWN. SO, THAT VEGETATION ENDS P STAYING UNTIL

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THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE ARBORS AND CLASSIC CAR. AND THIS IS LOOKING FROM THE OTHER WAY BACK WHEN YOU GET INTO THE RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE FOR THE NEW SHOPPING CENTER LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE SITE. THIS IS DOWN TOWARDS, UM, THE INTERSECTION OF WATSON ROAD. LOOKING FROM THE NORTH, AND YOU COULD SEE THE SELF STORAGE AND THE PHARMACY, AND BILLBOARD, AND THAT ACTIVITY. AND, I ADDED JUST ONE MORE TO THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION HERE AND YOU COULD SEE THAT, BUT, YOU COULD SEE THAT ROW OF TREES THAT REMAINS, SO, AGAIN, THE TREES WHICH WILL ALSO OFFER US ADDITIONAL BUFFERING. JUST KIND OF LOOKING BACK UP NORTH, INSIDE OF US-1, I ALWAYS TAKE A PICTURE OF THE SIGN, KIND OF LOOKING BACK. TOWARDS WILDWOOD DRIVE, THIS IS TOWARDS THAT INTERSECTION. SO, WE FEEL THE ZONING CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY WITH THE CONDITIONS. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR MY CLIENT TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS THE OFFICE THAT HE HAS HAD BEFORE. UM, AND IT WILL GIVE HIM A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND J U.S. TO GO THROUGH THE THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE HIGH INTENSITY COMPANY ESPECIALLY USES ONLY, RV AND BOAT STORAGE. THE RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY, CULTURAL AND INSTITUTIONAL, AND GENERAL OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL. IT WOULD ELIMINATE THOSE HIGH INTENSITY USES ALL OTHER HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC SERVICE, GENERAL PUBLIC SERVICE, REGIONAL, BUSINESS AND CULTURAL, AND IT ADDS THE ADDITIONAL EVERGREEN TREES ON US-1, WITHIN THAT 84-FOOT, PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA. AGAIN, VARIETY OF USES. IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE LAYOUT AS WELL, SO, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT TAKEN TO THE RETENTION AREA SO IT'S GOING TO BE A DRY RETENTION AREA BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAD HAPPENED ALONG IN THE WOODBRIDGE SUBDIVISION AND WE ADDED ADDITIONAL BUFFERS TO THE FRONT TOO. AND THAT DRY RETENTION AREA WILL ALSO SERVE AS A DISTANCE, AS WELL, ALSO, AGAIN, 80-FEET TO THE STORAGE AREA. CONFORMS TO THE CURRENT SETBACKS, AND SOMETIMES THOSE ARE MADE LARGER BY THE BUFFERS. AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CRITERIA FOR THAT. AND THE CHANGE OF THE CONDITIONS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND COMPATIBLE. AND A LIST OF MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES TO MEET THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND THE BUFFER WILL ALSO HELP ASSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORING USES. WITH THAT, WE'RE REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I SAID, I HAVE SOME SUPPORT HERE TODAY IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF

THE APPLICANT? >> I HAVE ONE. IS THIS A RIGHT

IN, RIGHT OUT? >> I BELIEVE SO. THERE'S NO

MEDIAN OPENING THERE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY. WE'RE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A

MOTION. >> MOTION PA RECOMMEND APPROVAL

[3. REZ 2023-02 St. Marks Industrial.]

>> SECOND. >> CHAIR: MOTION BY MEGHAN, SECOND BY JACK, ANY DISCUSSION? REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES 4-0. LET'S MOVE ONTO ITEM NUMBER 3 ON THE AGENDA. DOES ANYBODY HAVE EX-PARTE TO DECLARE ON ITEM

THREE? MR. LAHTI, THERE YOU GO. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MATT LAHTI,

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THE PLAN HERE. >> CHAIR: CAN YOU PLEASE

SPEAK UP? >> YES, SIR. SO, THE SITE IS TO THE WEST OF US-1, AND TO THE SOUTH OF NINE MILE ROAD IGP.

THERE'S A COMMERCIAL PUD DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH HERE, AND THIS SITE WILL BE ACCESSED VIA THAT CONNECTER ROAD. UTILITIES ARE INSTALLED AND THE ROADWAY IS CURRENTLY INSTALLED TO THE PROPERTY LINE THERE. SO, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE BUT HAS AN EXISTING ZONING CATEGORY OF OPEN RURAL, THUS, THE REQUEST TO REZONE TO IW. YOU COULD SEE, ZOOMING OUT A BIT, WE'RE WEST, JUST SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT INDUSTRIAL LAND USE. EXISTING ZONING IS OPEN RURAL, THERE'S EXISTING APPLICANT-OWNED AREAS AROUND, THEY'RE NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST. THEY WILL REMAIN IN THE OPEN RURAL CATEGORY. WE'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE 15.98 OF THE 240-SUM ACRES THERE. THERE'S THE IW CATEGORY. AGAIN, THAT'S A COMMERCIAL PUD, THAT, HAS PRETTY MUCH THE MAJORITY OF THE USES AS THE IW ZONING. AND THEN, YOU HAVE IW HERE, ADJACENT TO US-1.

ZOOMING OUT, YOU COULD JUST KIND OF GET A REGIONAL FEEL FOR THAT.

THE IW DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, 70% FLOOR AREA RATIO. AND THE SETBACKS, NOT SURE ABOUT THAT THERE, SORRY. HERE'S KIND OF THE PARCEL BOUNDARY, YOU COULD SEE THE CONTINUATION OF THAT ACCESS ROAD. AND, THE PROJECT LIMITS HERE. THE EXISTING WETLAND MAP. AGAIN, FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPONENTS, SOME MAPS AND, UM, (INDISCERNIBLE) FOUND ON SITE.

AND HERE'S A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT, ONE OF THE LAND USERS OF THIS PROPERTY UPON SUCCESSFUL REZONING WOULD BE VAMIRE SOUTHEAST, THAT'S LOOKING TO PUT A SERVICES FACILITY HERE THAT WOULD SERVICE EQUIPMENT AND A RENTAL FACILITIES, SO, THEY WILL BE DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP. I'M EXCITED TO HAVE AN END USER AND BRING DEVELOPMENT TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MATT?

>> MATT, YOU MENTIONED THE END USER, IT'S GOING TO BE JUST ONE,

BIG BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY? >> WE DON'T KNOW WHICH SIDE ANY OF THE SPLITS AND LOTS WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE IW ZONING BASED ON LOT AREA AND REQUIREMENT. THERE'S NO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, THERE'S NO NEED TO PLAT

COMMERCIAL LAND. >> THAT'S TRUE.

>> ONCE THE ZONING IS IN PLACE, I THINK THEY'LL UNDERSTAND BETTER ABOUT HOW THEY CAN DIVIDE IT.

>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? THEN WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

JACK? >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL

[4. CPA(SS) 2021-09 Little Florence Cove.]

>> HENRY? >> SECOND.

>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY JACK AND A SECOND BY HENRY, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0; MAT, YOU STILL HAVE THE

FLOOR, AND PLEASE, SPEAK UP. >> NEXT APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE HERE IS DISTRICT DISTRICT 2, CPA(SS) 2021-09 LITTLE

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YOU COULD SEE FROM THE REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE, IT THERE'S RES-D, WE HAVE PROPOSED RES-A. WE HAVE THE PROPOSED LAND USE EXISTING OUT HERE THAT HAS EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ON IT CONSISTENT IN SIZE TO THE LOTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. HERE OWES OUR PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL PLAN. WE PROVIDED THE SCENIC EDGE AROUND THE PERIMETER. AND EACH HOME IS PROPOSED TO HAVE THEIR OWN DOCK. SO, EVERYONE GETS ACCESS OFF OF THE PRIVATE ROAD HERE, STILL MOTOR MANAGEMENT FACILITY. ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU COULD SEE HERE, THE MAJORITY OF THIS IS WETLANDS, ADJACENT, AND THIS IS THE DOT PROPERTY WHERE THAT FUTURE OUTER BELTWAY WILL BE. NO DOCUMENTED LISTED SPECIES ARE USING THE PROPERTY.

WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH DOT, SO, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THAT ACCESS, YOU COULD SEE THE PROPOSED OUTER BELTWAY AND IT'S ACCESSED HERE. THIS IS A ROAD KNOWN AS KILE COURT. THE EXISTI EAST OF US WILL BE ACCESSED USING THAT SAME CONNECTION PROVIDED BY DOT. WHEN THEY REDO THE INTERSECTION HERE. THESE ARE ALL FIXED DOCKS GOING OUT OVER THE WETLAND AREAS AND OVER THE WATER CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SEE IN THE AREA. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> MEGAN?

>> THE ACCESS IS IT GOING TO BE OFF OF THAT KILE COURT? .

>> CORRECT. IT'S HARD WITH THE COLORS, BUT, YOU COULD SEE THE CUL DE SAC OFF THE MAIN ROAD, AND WE'LL BE OFF THE END OF THAT

CUL DE SAC. >> CHAIR: DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MATT? DID I ASK FOR ANY EX-PARTE

COMMUNICATION? NO. OKAY. >> IF I MAY ADD, WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THERE WAS FOUR PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP. ONE OF THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED MAY BE, SOME, SIGNAGE THAT DOCUMENTS AND EXPLAINS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCENIC TRAIL. THE APPLICANT WAS AMENABLE TO THAT. AND NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PUBLIC ACCESS THROUGH HERE, BUT, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE APPLICANT'S INTERESTED TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL SIGNS FOR THE RESIDENTS AS TO THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TRAIL.

>> CHAIR: MATT, HOW DO THE LOT SIZES WIDTHS, COMPARED TO

THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH? >> FROM A VISUAL THEY'RE ALL PRETTY CLOSE, WE'RE GREATER THAN AN ACRE WITH EACH ONE OF THESE

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MOST OF THE LOTS OUT THERE ARE GREATER THAN 2 ACRES GROSS.

>> CHAIR: DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD, MR. ROSATTO.

>> >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M VINCENTEM, ROSATTO, AND I LIVE IN. IN 2009, WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR RESIDENCE, WE WERE TOLDVINCE M, ROSATTO, AND I LIVE IN. IN 2009, WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR RESIDENCE, WE WERE TOLD ROSATTO 2009, WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR RESIDENCE, . ROSATTO, AND I LI 2009, WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR RESIDENCE, WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT FURTHEST OF THE RIGHT LINE WHICH IS THE PROPERTY LINE WAS CONSIDERED, THAT WHOLE SECTION ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS A WATER SHED. AND THAT, NO CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE DONE ON IT. SO, I WANTED TO SEE, I DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO YOUR MEETING, ALTHOUGH, I WISH THAT I HAD, BECAUSE, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I SHOULD BE ASKING HIM. CAN YOU FOLKS GIVE ME AN IDEA IF THE WATER SHED

STILL STANDS THERE? >> WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT INFORMATION, SIR, THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT. YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET WITH THEM AFTER

THE MEETING. >> GOOD ENOUGH, BUT, I WOULD

LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MATT, DID YOU WANT TO OFFER ANY REBUTTAL?

>> JUST, FIRST OFF, IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION WHEN I HEAR THIS OF, "I WAS TOLD DURING A REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION". WHO PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION, WAS IT A REALTOR OR A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL?

>> I THINK WITH RESPECT TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND COMBINED WITH MAINTAINING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE APPLICANT'S HANDOUT OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. TO ME, WATER SHED MEANS RECEIVING ANY FLOW FROM THEIR PROPERTY IN ACCO ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICANT'S HANDBOOK, AS WE PROCEED WITH OUR WATER MANAGEMENT PERMITTING, WE WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE THOSE FLOWS, MAY BE NOT INTO OUR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OR OUR TREATMENT SYSTEM, BUT, MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC FLOW PATTERNS, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH THE PROPERTY OR IT BELOW THE PROPERTY, I THINK EVERYTHING HERE IS DRAINING THROUGH THE RIVER AS THE ULTIMATE RECEIVING BODY. SURVEYS. AND

(INDISCERNIBLE) >> (INAUDIBLE).

>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT, WE'RE BACK TO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

JACK? >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL SCALE 2021-09, LITTLE FLORENCE COVE PLACED UPON THE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED BY THE STAFF

REPORT. >> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT, MOTION

TO APPROVE BY JACK. HENRY? >> SECOND.

>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION? I NOTICED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT STAFF WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A STOMACH ACHE WITH THIS BEING A SPOT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DO YOU WANT

TO COMMENT ON THAT, TRACY? >> SPOT LAND USE CHANGES AND

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>> CHAIR: SO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THAT, AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP THAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK TO THE EAST OF STATE ROAD 13 IF WE TRIED TO STICK A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LIKE THIS OUT, AND THEN THEY SEE AN UN-PLATTED, UNCUT UP AREA THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE A LOT, AND, ALTHOUGH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CREATE A PRECEDENT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD CREATE A PRECEDENT BECAUSE THE SIDE LOTS ARE KEEPING IN COMPATIBLE WITH THE ONES TO THE SOUTH.

>> IT'S PROBABLY A COMPATIBLE CONSISTENT USE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TRENDS IN THE AREA AND THE PATTERNS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, IT'S NOT WHAT THE FUTURE PLAN WAS PROJECTING.

[Agency Reports]

>> THAT WAS HELPFUL. IT HELPED ME MAKE UP MY MIND. THANK YOU.

LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. >> CHAIR: THAT MOTION PASSES

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