May 16, 2023 Board of County Commissioners

>> GOOD MORNING, I ENJOYED MILLER, 1107 (NAME?) DRIVE AND A MEMBER OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. I AM SO HAPPY TO LEARN THAT YOU ARE PREPARED TODAY.

THE CONTRACT FOR ST. JOHN'S SUITABLE TO SERVE THE HOMELESS POPULATION OF OUR COUNTY.

I WAS IN A MEETING TWO OR SO YEARS AGO WHERE THEY LOST A SITE WHICH THEY OPERATED FOR SEVERAL YEARS THIS IS A DIFFICULT EXPERIENCE BUT THE COMMISSIONERS AND ALL OF US WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE. THE LEADERSHIP INCLUDING BOARD MEMBERS VOTING AGAINST IT WHO LEARN THEY HAD BEEN PROMISED A PERMANENT FACILITY ON THAT SITE THE BOARD OF GALLUP COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WEEK PERIOD. YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS AND HAD TO APPROVE A LOW INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT DAY OR LOSE THE FINANCING FOR IT. I RECALLED SHERIFF HENRY DEAN OF GREEN THE COUNTY AND LET HOME AGAIN DOWN IN HIS DIRECTION OF STAFF TO FIND A SUITABLE SOLUTION TO KEEP HOME AGAIN IN BUSINESS. WHILE A TEMPORARY SITE WAS EXPLORED WITH THE COUNTY STAFF HOME AGAINST EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PROVIDED A LAUNDRY LIST OF SERVICES AT HER HOME. EVENTUALLY, A TEMPORARY SITE WAS IDENTIFIED WHICH HOME AGAIN MADE SOMEWHAT SUITABLE RENTING THE TRAILERS FROM THE COUNTY. THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THEIR BEST WORK FOR TWO YEARS DIVIDING OCCUPATIONAL COACHING, PSYCHOLOGICAL SUPPORT, PHARMACY SUPPORT AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES. LAST YEAR, WHILE A PERFECT STRATEGY FOR THE UNITED WAY TO HANDLE AND OTHER NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION AND ARPA FUNDING WE SET ASIDE THE MONEY AND TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA SPECIFICALLY HOME AGAIN THAT THEY WOULD FINALLY FACILITY THAT THEY HAD BEEN PROMISED SO MANY YEARS AGO.

TO SAY THAT THIS IS A BIG DAY FOR HOME AGAIN AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

AS A RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY I AM A PROUD OF YOUR ACTIONS TO DELIVER ON THE PROMISE, YOUR PROMISE, TO THIS AWESOME ORGANIZATION AND I PTHINK ALL OF YOU FOR CARING AN DOING THE RIGHT THING.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

P>> WE HAD A PROPER MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. THANK YOU ALL.

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA SKEE I HAVE NONE, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD , COMMISSIONER JOSEPH .

>> NONE.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE REGULAR AGENDA.

[1. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2022-06 The Landings at St. Johns (Active Adult).]

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?

>> AYE.

>> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WILL TAKE US INTO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS THE LAND USE. ELLEN AVERY SMITH. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU THIS MONEY.

ELLEN AVERY SMITH ROGER SAUERS 100 PLACE YOUR LOVELY SAINT AUGUSTINE.

ON INTRODUCE A CUP PEOPLE BEFORE WE GET STARTED. OBVIOUSLY CASEY WAS OUR PLANNING EXPERT ALSO WE HAVE DUSTIN DUDLEY FROM HOMES WHICH IS THE APPLICANT FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL BE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY.BRIAN CARTER FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL IS OUR PROJECT VERBAL CONSULTANT WITH THE WETLANDS AND SPECIES.

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RAJESH PROJECT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS IS ALSO HERE TO GIVE HIS EXPERTISE. JUST BY WAY OF BOTH OF YOU WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU A GLOBAL LOOK AT TWO PROJECTS WHICH WE CALL THE LANDINGS AT ST. JOHN'S AND THE LANDINGS AT GREENBRIER.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE PROVIDING OR TRYING TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTION AND THE COST OF PUBLIC BENEFITS RELATED THAT EXIST IN THIS AREA.TO MAKE EVERYONE'S LIFE BETTER. SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SMALL YOU WILL SEE THE LOCATION OF WHAT'SCALLED THE LANDING AT GREENBRIER .

THAT ISWHAT A QUICK CALL THE NON-AGE RESTRICTED OR THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT AND HAVE SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN. THAT LAND USE IS PRIMARILY ALREADY RESIDENTIAL B IS A BOY.

THERE'S ANY CHANGE THE FUTURE LANE USE OF NATION ON THE 30 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL B THERE'S AN APPLICATION RESULT WITH PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. OR QT.

AS AN EXAMPLE FOR THE WIND USE AT ST. JOHN'S WHICH IS AN ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE 355 OR OLDER NO SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN CAN BE PART OF THAT COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT. THAT PROJECT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY WITH THE FORMAL PERSPECTIVE AS IT NEEDS LARGE-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.

THE APPLICATION ALSO HAS A COMPANION PIECE. THE OTHER THREE APPLICATIONS FOR THE TWO FOR THE LAND-USE AGREEMENT AND THAT PUD FOR LANDING AT ST. JOHN'S LARGE-SCALE COMPLINE BECOME BACK TO THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER THE LARGE SCALE AMENDED AS APPROVED BY THE STATE WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. JUST AGAIN, HERE IS THE LANDINGS AT ST. JOHN'S AN ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY. WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE LAND-USE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL B AND AGAIN SURROUNDED BY EXISTING VOLVO TALKING ABOUT THAT AGAIN YOU SEE HERE IS THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THIS AMOUNT AGE RESTRICTED THAT ALREADY HAD A RESIDENTIAL B LAND-USE DESIGNATION AND THEN YOU SEE THIS PORTION OF THE ART --CHANGE TO RESIDENTIAL B TO MAP LITERALLY THE DEVELOPMENT TREND FOR ALL PROPERTY DROWNING. YOU CAN SEE ALL TO THE EAST OF THIS AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREENBERGER ROAD , 210 AND LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY THAT MIXED USE NO COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA THEY'RE ALL MIXED USE AREA AND ALL THE RESIDENTIAL GOES DOWN GREENBRIER ROAD THE SAME RESIDENT. THIS IS BY THE DEFINITION OF THE BOARD STATUTES 1.3.3162 THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE AND THEREFORE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT DESIGNATION TODAY FOR THE RECORD.

AGAIN, THE REQUEST TODAY IS TO CHANGE THE LENGTH OF THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS THE AGE RESTRICTED TO RESIDENT B. B IN YOUR COMPANY ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF UP TO TWO UNITS PER DEVELOPABLE ACRE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE I THINK THE RESIDENTS SOMETIMES THAT DEVELOPABLE ACRE MEANS TAKING OUT THE WETLANDS THAT NEED TO BE PRESERVED AND THE DEVELOPABLE AREA HAS TO INCLUDE ROADS, SIDEWALKS, STORM WATER PONDS AND OTHER OPEN SPACE. TWO UNITS PER DEVELOPABLE ACRE IS NOT BEING HALF-ACRE LOTS PER QUARTER ACRE LOTS BECAUSE THAT'S A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY WANT TO PUT IN ROADS, STORM WATER SYSTEMS AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT. IT IS LITERALLY THE WAY YOU MEASURE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN FILLING AND RESIDENTIAL B THIS IS A COMPATIBLE PROJECT BECAUSE OFFERING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AT THE DENSITY 2.2 UNITS BEFORE FOR DEVELOPABLE ACRE.

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BLEVINS MEANS TAKING THEM AWAY FROM THE DWELLING UNIT THAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING.

>> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

>> YOU WOULD BE WORKING OFF THE WETLANDS YOU MET DOCUMENT HOW YOU DEFOLIATE

>> AND COMMENTS. CONFRONT MORE TO YOUR POINT CONFERENCE OF PLAN MAKES YOU MEASURE DENSITY NOT BASED ON THE WETLANDS THE WETLANDS OF THE PEOPLE SERVED AND YOU MEASURE DENSITY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF LAND WITHIN THE PROJECT THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DEVELOPED TO YOUR POINT NOT INCLUDING THE WETLANDS. THAT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO EVERYONE ALL LAND OWNERS NEED TO FOLLOW THAT WILL.

NOW I'M GOING TO LET CASEY.

>> HI, CASEY, --SIGNALS BROKE. THE PROPERTY IS LIVE OPEN WORLD ON THE ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S CLOSED FOR THE COMPANY AT THE MOMENT. THUS HAVE EXISTING ZONING CONVICTION RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ARE AS YOU WHICH ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME AS PER THE ROLES OF THAT. THE PROPERTY IS MOSTLY FROM DEVELOPING SPECIFIC FAMILY HOMES IN A COUNTY PARK AT SCHOOL. UNDER THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN THE PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT ARE REQUIRED TO REZONE TO PLAINTIFF BEING DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO INCLUDED WITH THE COMPASS IS A POLICY THAT WHEN A LARGE-SCALE PLAN LEMON PROPOSED CHANGE FUTURE LANE USE THE ACCOUNT RECORD PURSUANT TO A HOLISTIC REVIEW OF WAS PROPOSED ON THE PROPERTY WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE IT IS ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT DESIGNATION.

FOR THIS PURPOSE ELLEN MENTIONED THERE ARE TWO. WHEN UNIT PELLETS.

ONE PAPER WROTE 380 ACRES OF LAND THE PROPOSED FOR 580 MARKET RATE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

LAND USE AT SAINT PORTION WHICH IS 581 ACRES PROPOSED, HIS PLAN TODAY WILL BE PROPOSED 761 ACTIVE ADULT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. ACCOMMODATION OF THE TWO DEVELOPED TOGETHER 49 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTIES WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION. THAT INCLUDES OVER 300 ACRES OF WETLAND PRESERVATION AND 445 ACRES OF WITHIN HIS VISION AND PREEXIST PARTS. THE PROPORTION PROPOSED THE CONFERENCE WHICH DOES HAVE ITS IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE SCHOOLS. THEY WERE REDUCED ROADWAY REGENERATION BY 45 PERCENT OF FAMILIES US. AND THEY ARE ALSO MCINTYRE'S ON SITE. THE NORTHWEST SECTOR HAS A POLICY THAT REQUIRES ME TO BE TO BE JOSEPH NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDING BLUES ROADWAYS LIKE CLEANING SYSTEM NATIONAL QUARTERS TO POINTS AND A CHILLY DAY. THE SUBSEQUENTLY MAKE THE RESERVATION. TO BUILD. THE SERVICE PROPERTY SWITCHING AIRFARES BY THE NAVY FOR OVER 20 YEARS IN 1961 THEY CHANGE THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AND SOLD IT OR REDESIGNATED TO ANOTHER AREA OF THE NAVY TO USE FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES AND THAT WAS IN PART THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AREA. DURING THAT TIME THEY HAVE AIR POTS THAT FOLLOWED FROM NORTHEAST TO SOUTHWEST DESIGNATION AND THE ACTUAL TARGET AREA WAS JUST OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AREA. SINCE THAT TIME IN 1961 THE PROPERTY HAS UNDERGONE AN INSTANCE OF REVIEWS TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO MORE PARTICLES ON SITE. THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF THE PROPERTY DOES PROVIDE AN ORDERLY AND COMPACT PLAN WITH OPEN SPACE AND WETLAND CONNECTIVITY WHICH YOU CAN SEE IS THE DARKER GREEN AREA ON THE MAP. THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT AND JUST PROVIDED ALL THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES 75 FOOT UNDERSERVED SCENIC EDGE FROM GREENBRIER ROAD AND 85 FOOT DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES INCLUDING RIVERTOWN AND (NAME?) RANCH WHICH ARE REALLY ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE WHICH PROVIDED WITH A TOTAL OF 75 FEET BETWEEN BACK OF LOTS IN THE COMMUNITIES AND THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY SPIRIT CIVIC PARK SPACE ALSO PROVIDED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AS WE MENTIONED OVER 20 ACRES. IT IS ALSO VARIED LOT SIZES AND IS RUNNING COMMITTEES.

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TO TALK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER PROFITABILITY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO FIND COMPARABLE HE IS A VISION WHICH LAND-USE CAN COEXIST WITH EACH OTHER IN A FASHION OVER TIME THEY DON'T HAVE ENJOYED NEGATIVE IMPACTS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IT DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME ASKED.

OUR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS LOTS WITHIN 50-70 FEET AND LOTS WITHIN THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT AREA 32 FEET-90 FEET. 664 MINIMUM LOT HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 80 FEET OR LARGER AND THE SURROUNDING AREA WHICH ONLY EQUATES TO ABOUT 13 PERCENT OF THE COMMUNITY IS IN THE AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THE RANGE OF DEVELOPMENT GOES FROM A LOWER DENSITY CLOSER TO THE RIVER TO RETURN DENSITY AS YOU MOVE FURTHER INLAND.

AS GET CLOSER TO THE PARTIAL QUARTER AT GREENBRIER ROAD AND PINE PARKWAY THAT'S RECEIVED LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT HIGHER DENSITY AREA. AGAIN, WE ARE STILL MAINTAINING BETWEEN 50-70 PLOT PLANS. THE LARGE TRAFFIC SIGNAL YOU SEE ON THE SUBJECT SITE PLAN IS PLAN FOR AN AREA TREAT COMMUNITY AND AREA THAT WOULD HAVE OPEN AIR PARK AREAS, PICKUP SOCCER GAMES AND OTHER ELEMENTS FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO JOIN.

WITH THAT I'LL HEAD OVER TO ELLEN.

>> OKAY, SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO DIVE INTO COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS.

BECAUSE YOUR BOARD HAS A VERY MADE IT VERY CLEAR OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT YOU NEED PROJECTS TO MAKE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS UP FRONT. AND SO, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE HOW THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BRING SPECIFIC SIGNIFICANT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS UP FRONT. ON THE MAP TODAY YOU SEE SOME OF THE ROADWAYS SEGMENTS THAT ARE ENACTED ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS PROJECT. WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE ROADWAY LINKS ALONG PINE PARKWAY INCLUDING GREENBRIER ROAD AS WELL AS THE MIDDLE SEGMENT OF ORANGE COUNTY ROAD AND INCLUDES SMALL PORTION OF STATE ROAD 13.

YOUR STAFF REPORT IS THE IMPACTED LEGS. SO GOING FORWARD I THINK FOR THE MORE BENEFIT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE YOUR STAFF KEEPS YOU BRIEFED THIS ROAD ALONG THE PARKWAY THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED BY GREENBRIER TO THE TUNE OF $20 MILLION TO THE NATIONAL COUNTY FUND THAT CURRENTLY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION GOING FROM TWO LANES TO FOUR LINES ALONG THIS ROAD ALL THE WAY TO VETERANS PARKWAY. THE INSTRUCTED RIGHT NOW A WIDENING OF COUNTY ROAD 210 OVER TO GREENBRIER ROAD THIS LOCATION AND THEN THE GREENBRIER GREENLAND PROJECT WHICH IS HERE AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE GREENBRIER ROAD WILL OVER TIME APPROVED THE SEGMENT OF PTHE ROAD FROM THREE LANES TO FOUR LANES FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY, AND OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IN A MIXED-USE PROJECT ALONG THIS AREA.

SO WITH THIS PROJECT ON STATE ROAD 13 WITH THE OPENING OF THE OUTER BELT WITH OR THE EXPRESSWAY THAT WILL REDUCE TRIPS ALONG THE SEGMENT BY 57 PERCENT.

THE EXPENSE WITH WILL HAVE NEW CHANCE BRIDGE OF THE ST. JOHNS RIVER ACROSS AND HAVING AN EXIT AT LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY WHICH WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH ANOTHER EXIT AT 2209 AND THEN EVENTUALLY DOVETAIL INTO I-95 IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

AND SO, WITH RESPECT IMPROVEMENTS TO BE PROPOSED BY THIS PROJECT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS ON IT LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY AT THIS INTERSECTION AT LONGLEAF AND GREENBRIER BECAUSE TRAFFIC FROM THE OUTER BELT WITH WILL BE EXITING AND USING IT LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY SO FOUR-LANE INTERSECTION HERE AND ALSO GREENBRIER ROAD JUST EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF LONGLEAF AND THAT IN THE PROJECT ENTRANCE.

ALSO, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. NOW MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT (NAME?) FROM RIVERTOWN IS BUILDING A NEW FOUR-LANE SECTION OF THE PARKWAY RIGHT NOW FROM LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY DOWN TO COUNTYROAD 210 . THE GREENBRIER WILL WIDEN ABOUT 7/10 OF A MILE ON THE GREENBRIER ROAD WILL BE FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT YEAR THE SHEARWATER IS EXTENDED AT SHEARWATER PARKWAY ALWAYS ON THE COUNTER AT 16 AND OF COURSE

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THE OUTER BELT WITH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND I READ THE OTHER DAY THEY ABOUT TO START THE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS GREAT NEWS. WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS A FRIEND.

THE REASON WE ARE PRESENTED THE COMBINED PROJECT YOU TODAY IS BECAUSE THESE TWO TOGETHER THE CASEY ELEMENT. OUR 11 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN PROPORTION SHARE.

WITH THAT MONEY GETS YOU IS PURCHASE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND STORMWATER PONDS.

IT INCLUDES DESIGN OF THE ROAD WITH, PERMANENT OF THE ROADWAY AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADWAY AT THE DEVELOPERS RISK. AND SO, THE ROAD WAY OF TALKING ABOUT IS AGAIN JUST EAST OF LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY BACK TO THE PROJECT ENTRANCE DOWN IN THIS AREA.

AND YOU SEE THE DETAILS OF THAT FOUR-LANE THAT WOULD ALSO SERVE THE COMMERCIAL THAT IS THE GREENBRIER HILO PARK HERE AND THE PUD THE PART HERE IN THE SHOPS AND THE PUD WILL BE ALL SEARCH BY THIS FOUR-LANE. BY THE PRESENT AND TRANSPORTATION AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE ONE ON THE RECORD FOR THE NON-AGE RESTRICTED PORTION BECAUSE IF WE CAN FILE IT UNDER THE NEW RULES BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY SMALL SCALE COMPLIMENTED THIS DOCUMENT EVEN SAYS IT IN THE COMPANION THAT WILL BE FILED FOR THIS AGE RESTRICTED PROPERTY WE CAN FILE A COMPLETED APPLICATION OR DOCUMENT TO THIS AFTER TODAY, HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL SAY THIS ROADWAY SEGMENT HAS TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BEFORE ANY PLAT.

THE FIRST PLOT CAN BE APPROVED FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS THES , EITHER A RESTRICTED OR NOT INTERESTED. THAT MEANS ACQUISITION RIGHT-OF-WAY POND, DESIGN OF THE ROAD, POSTING A BOND FOR THE CHURCH OF THE ROAD IN FRONT BEFORE ANY PLAT OR PROOF OF THE COUNTY. IN THE COMPLETION OF THAT ROAD FOR TWO YEARS THE COUNTY'S APPROVAL OF THE PLAT CONTAINING 300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THE RECORD AND INTO AGREEMENTS WITH THE SPORT THAT UP FRONT, AGAIN, COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS 11 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THE DOCUMENT DOES SAY IF THE ROAD COST MORE THAN 11/2 MILLION DOLLARS THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY THAT COST.

SO THAT'S IN A WRITING IN THAT DOCUMENT AND AGAIN IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE DOCUMENT AND THEN TENTACLE LANGUAGE YOU BEAUTIFY LOOK. GOING FORWARD AGAIN, WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHAT WE HEAR LOUD AND CLEAR FROM PEOPLE ALONG IN THE GREENBRIER ROAD AREA IS WEEKS BEFORE SCHOOL AND AFTERSCHOOL TRAFFIC IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT MAYBE MORE THAN A LITTLE DIFFICULT ON RIVER ROAD.SO THE TEAM CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO I'M GOING TO CALL THEM SWIFT LANES TO INSTRUCT LANES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF GREENBRIER ROAD OUTSIDE OF THE TRAVEL LANES TO GET PARENTS WHO ARE DROPPING THE STUDENTS OFF OR PICKING STUDENTS UP IN THE AFTERNOONS TO GET THEIR CARS PHYSICALLY OUT OF TRAFFIC SO THAT IF I WANT TO GO GET MY CHILD AND I AM 45 MINUTES EARLY I CAN JUST PARK IN THIS LANE AND BE OUT OF THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. THE PROPOSED FOR THE ESTIMATED COST OF THAT IS $565,000 AND WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL'S ROLE WITH THAT MINUTE.

THERE WILL BE NO COUNTY ROAD IMPACT NOR WILL THERE BE SCHOOL IMPACTING CREDITS FOR THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. THEY WILL BUILD AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROJECT. A SIMILAR STATEMENT CAN BE MADE ABOUT LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY SOME OF YOU WHO TRAVEL ON IT LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL NOTICED THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO ARE BACKED UP INTO THE TRAVEL LANES TRYING TO GET INTO THE SCHOOL AND SO ANOTHER PROPOSING ABOUT $282,000 IN EXPENDITURE TO LENGTHEN THAT LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL TO GIVE THEIR STUDENTS OUT OF THE TRAVELING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME FROM WORK OR WHATEVER WITHOUT BEING BLOCKED BY SCHOOL TRAFFIC. AGAIN, WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE

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SCHOOL BOARD THEY ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE. AND SO, AGAIN, NO ROAD PACK FEE CREDITS FOR THE TURN LANES ARE BEING OFFERED BY (NAME?) AS PART OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR THE PROJECT.ND TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, AGAIN, THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FOR THIS PROJECT OCCURS AND 2023-2024 HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN 2024-202 . THE FIRST HOME FOR THE PROJECT ARE NOT UNTIL 2026 AND THE AVERAGE ABOUT 60 UNITS PER YEAR UNTIL THE PROJECT IS BUILT OUT.

--IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE FOR VARIOUS ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS YOUR COUNTY CONSTRUCTION OF 210 WIDENING GOES INTO 24. YOUR COUNTY WIDENING OF LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY GOES INTO 2024 AND EARLY 2025. GREENBRIER ROAD WIDENING FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT YOU SEE WHEN THAT OCCURS. AND THEN YOU SEE ALSO ON HERE THE TURN LANES AND ENTRANCE INTO THE HIGH SCHOOL WHICH ARE EITHER IN THE SUMMER 24 OR SUMMER OF 25 AND THEN THE FIRST PAYMENTS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD WHICH WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT AND IT YET OCCURRED IN ABOUT 2025. USING THE TIMELINE AND YOU SEE WHEN THE PROJECT COMES ONLINE. TALKING ABOUT SCHOOLS. SO, OVERALL, YOU KNOW IN THIS AREA THERE ARE THREE K-8 SCHOOLS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

ONE IS AN SHEARWATER THAT WOULD OPEN IN THE SCHOOL YEAR 2024-2 .

BEACON LAKE SAME THING. THERE ARE ABOUT 1500 STUDENTS IN EACH OF THOSE TWO SCHOOLS.

THEY WILL OPEN AGAIN AND ABOUT A YEAR. RIVERTOWN K-8 WILL OPEN IN A 25-26 AND THAT HAS ABOUT 1100 STUDENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR SCHOOL AND SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT 4100 NEW STUDENTS AND K-8 SCHOOLS IN THOSE PARTICULAR SCHOOLS BY NO LATER THAN THE 25-26 SCHOOL YEAR AGAIN GOING BACK TO OUR SIDE EARLIER THE FIRST HOMES IN THE LANDINGS I WILL CALL IT BECAUSE THIS IS THE NON-AGE RESTRICTED STAR AND 2026.

THOSE THREE SCHOOLS WILL BE OPEN BY THE TIME THE FIRST UNITS ARE GENERATED IN THE NONRESTRICTED PORTION. YOU SEE THE OTHER SCHOOL SITES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE AREA HAVE BEEN OFFERED BY PROJECTS OVER TIME. WITH RESPECT TO THE SCHOOL PROPORTION SHARE IN THE SCHOOL BENEFITS FOR THIS PROJECT AGAIN AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AGE RESTRICTED TODAY BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS HOW WE THINK ABOUT SCHOOLS, HOW TO HELP THE SCHOOLS FROM THE NON-ASIAN RESTRICTED PORTION.

AND SO, THE SCHOOL BOARD ALREADY OWNS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE HERE.

AND SO, WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, AGAIN, TO PROVIDE A DIRECT STORMWATER SYSTEM DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT WILL FLOW TO ALLOW STORM WATER TO FLOW FROM THE SCHOOL SIDE ONTO THE PROJECT, THE LATEST PROJECT, INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM WILL BE SIZED ENOUGH TO TAKE THE STORMWATER FROM THE SCHOOL SITE SO THE SCHOOL SITE IS MORE DEVELOPABLE ACRES.

WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT THIS WE WILL GO FORWARD WITH THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE IN DUE TIME AND JUST KNOW THAT ON THE TABLE.

IN ADDITION TO THE NON-NINE DOLLARS AND SCHOOL PROPORTIONATE PAYMENT THAT'S DUE BY LAW AND ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE, AGAIN, THE ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE SCHOOL SITE DETAILS FOR YOU A MINUTE AGO. ALSO, FOR THE NONAGE RESTRICTED PORTION WHICH, THE AGE RESTRICTED, IS NOT GENERATIONAL AGED CHILDREN.

THOSE FOLKS WILL PAY PROPERTY TAXES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $1 MILLION. THAT IS A BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM TO KNOW THAT NO SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN WILL BE LIVING AND LIVING AT THE LANDINGS AT ST. JOHN'S.

AND THEN HERE'S A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AGAIN RELATED TO THE TURN LANES THEY APPRECIATE THE PROPOSAL AND TO CONTINUE FORWARD AND CREATE, CREATIVITY AND OFTEN HAS ACCES . SO I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVED A COPY OF THAT LETTER TO SHOW IN

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THE RECORD. JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY I KNOW YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING ME TALK. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS TO THE TUNE OF 11 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

$1 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL TAXES FROM THE SORRY AGE RESTRICTED PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

SCHOOL ACCESS AND FUTURE SITE ACCESS FOR THOSE SCHOOLS. CIVIC SPACE FOR PUBLIC USE.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE SURROUNDING AREA RESIDENTIAL B TWO UNITS PER DEVELOPABLE ACRE.

SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE AREA CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTH WEST SECTOR OVERLAY. TALKING ABOUT AGAIN THIS IS AN INFILL PARCEL YOU SEE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE AS AN AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE. THIS IS THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR THE LARGE-SCALE CONFERENCE OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT SO WHERE WE GO FROM HERE IS YOU WOULD VOTE TO TRANSFER THIS TO STATE AGENCY THE APPLICATION IS TRANSFERRED TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND THEY SENT IT TO DOT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, WATER DISTRICT, ALL THE STATE AGENCIES THEY REVIEW, PROVIDE, AND COME BACK WITH ALL FOUR OF THESE APPLICATIONS. HOPEFULLY MARY OF WHAT THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENTS FOR TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS AND FOR FINAL HEARING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION.

>> THANK YOU WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER JOSEPH .

>> I HAVE A QUESTION IF YOU BE PATIENT WITH ME I APPRECIATE IT.

I AM STILL HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE TO COME TOGETHER WITH OUR BACKLOG OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE ARE PRAYING FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME AND VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. LET ME JUST ASK THE FIRST QUESTION, IS THISPROPERTY CURRENTLY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA ?

>> PART OF IT IS AND PART OF IT IS NOT. LET ME GO BACK TO THE LAND USE MAP. SORRY, OKAY, FOR THE NON-ASIAN RESTRICTED YOU SEE ON THIS MAP THE YELLOW OR MUSTARD COLOR IS ALREADY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA PLANS.

SO THE REQUEST WE HAVE THIS IS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS NOT ON THE TABLE TODAY BUT THE LARGE-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A MINUTE FOR THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS THE AGE RESTRICTED WE ARE SEEKING TO CHANGE THAT TO A RESIDENTIAL B AND PUT IT WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY. BY LAW, USING THE STATUTORY SECTION, IT SAYS IN SUMMARY IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER LAND WITH A LAND USE THAT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT IT IS PRESUMED IF IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR AGRICULTURAL OVER TIME TO BE CONSIDERED AN ENCLAVE AND NOT URBAN SPRAWL. THAT GOES TO THE IDEA OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AREA.

>> LAST NIGHT, I COULD NOT SLEEP, MY HUSBAND SAW ME AT TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT DOES (NAME?) ON THE PROPERTY ALREADY?

>> THEY DO NOT. I WILL CALL A FRIEND DOES.

>> I FEEL LIKE THE LANDINGS AT GREENBRIER, GREENBERG LANDINGS, BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND POPULATES OVER BERTRAM TRAIL ALL THOSE SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY JUST PACKED.HE TEACHERS THERE ARE NOT TEACHERS FOR EVERY CLASSROOM SOME ARE EVEN HAVING TO HAVE SUBSTITUTES ALL THE TIME. I'M WONDERING WHY YOU JUST SAY, OH, THERE'S PROPERTY OVER HERE WE WILL SEE IF HE CAN PICK IT UP IT WAS A BOMBING AREA AND WE WILL ADD IT TO OUR PROPOSAL SO THAT IT'S MORE PALATABLE FOR US TO, ARE THE ROADS GOING TO BE FINISHED? NO, THEY WILL NOT BE FINISHED. JUST EXPLAIN TO ME CAN ANYONE JUST GO FIND PROPERTY LIKE THAT THAT'S OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT AREA IN OUR COUNTY AND AND SAY I'M JUST GOING TO ATTACH IT TO MIND SO IS IT BETTER?

>> I WILL ANSWER YOUR A NUMBER OF PARTS COULD YOU RATE RAISED A NUMBER OF CONCERNS.

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LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FIRST LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THIS MAP CLEARLY SHOWS THE PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY RIVERTOWN AND OTHER VARIED ARCH DEVELOPMENT AND ARE STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT. THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT YOU SAW TODAY BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A LARGESCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT .

METAL IS FOR THE ACTIVE ADULTS. THERE ARE NO SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN WHO ARE GENERATED BY THIS PROJECT. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE SCHOOLS.

IT WILL GENERATE $1 MILLION A YEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE CHILDREN LIVING IN THEIR HOMES THAT GOES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEY HAVE ALSO GIVEN ABOUT $850,000 OR WILL SPEND ABOUT $850,000 TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO THE EXISTING SCHOOL ON A GREENBRIER ROAD AND ALONG LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY. AND ALSO IMPROVE THE DEVELOP ABILITY OF THIS PROPERTY THAT LIES RIGHT IN HERE BY PROVIDING THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT SYSTEM THAT I GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF A MONTH AGO. FOR SCHOOLS WE FEEL LIKE, AGAIN, AND UNDER THE LAW ALL DEVELOPMENT THAT GENERATE SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN MEETING NOT AGE RESTRICTED BY THIS DECLARATION WAS TO PAY PROPORTIONATE SHARE.

THAT PROPORTIONATE SHARE WILL BE CAPTURED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD WHICH IT IS HERE AND THEY HOLD IT IN THEIR ESCROW FUNDS IN AN ACCOUNT FOR ONLY SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION.

THAT ALL IT CAN BE USED FOR. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO BUILD NEW STATIONS.

>> IT WILL NOT COVER A NEW SCHOOL? A NEW SCHOOL IS WHAT 50 MILLION WHAT IS A NEW SCHOOL?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE PRICE OF A NEW SCHOOL BUT I WILL SAY THIS PROJECT FOR THE NON-ASIAN RESTRICTED GENERATES ABOUT 400 STUDENTS WHICH IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT THE K-8 SCHOOLS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH RIVERTOWN, SHEARWATER AND BEACON LIKE.

THOSE WILL BRING 4100 IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

>> IS BECAUSE THERE'S BUILDING GOING ON NOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

THAT AREA IS GOING TO DOUBLE IN SIZE AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WAY BEFORE I WAS HERE AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO COMPREHEND UNTIL YOU ARE DRIVING ALONG AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SEE A BUNCH OF HOUSES GOING OUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT AREA THIS IS THE LARGEST CLEAR SPOT IN THAT AREA. NOW, I DID GET 130 COMMENTS AGAINST IT AND THAT YOU PROVIDED 27 FOUR AT 428. THE ONLY PART OF THE ONES THAT WERE FOR IT IS THAT THEY WERE ALL FOR IT BECAUSE THE LANE GOING INTO THE SCHOOL AND THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IN THAT AREA BUT SOME OF THE ZIP CODES ARE NOT EVEN IN THAT AREA THEY ARE IN ELKTON, SAINT AUGUSTINE, BEACH, ONE IN SWITZERLAND WHICH IS CLOSE.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY THERE THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH THIS PROJECT. AND I STILL HAVE MORE, SORRY, QUESTIONS.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH , TO YOUR POINT THOUGH I DO NOT SEE THE OPPOSITION EMAILS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I HAVE SEEN A FEW AND I'LL POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THEY WERE VERY GENERAL AGAINST DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. THEY WERE NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT AT LEAST THE ONES I HAVE SEEN AND THEY ALSO DID NOT PROVIDE PRESIDENTS.

IT'S HARD TO TELL WHETHER SOME OF THE EMAILS THE ONES I'VE SEEN YOU CAN'T TELL IF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE OUTSIDE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND YOU CAN'T TELL IF THEY WERE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. I JUST MENTIONED THAT BASED ON

AN EVIDENTIARY BASED BECAUSE -- >> I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH THAT, I DISPARITY. SO THE IMPACT OF I DISAGREE, THE IMPACT OF THE NON-CHILDREN AREA I CHECKED WITH FIRE. THE IMPACT IS MORE THAN SIMPLE ITS FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT , THE ROADWAYS, OF COURSE. I CHECKED ON THE NORTH DALE WEBB HOW MANY CALLS AND ESOPHAGEAL WEB. IT SORT OF COMPARABLE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 761 HOMES. THIS ONE IS CLOSER TO A THOUSAND BUT THEY HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 330 CALLS ANNUALLY AND MY CONCERN WHICH I TOLD YOU WHEN I MET WITH YOU IS THAT THERE IS ONE ROAD AND THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THROUGH TO ROUNDABOUTS ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK AND TRULY NO SECOND CONNECTIVITY BUT IN THE PACKET I GOT CONNECTIVITY IS THROUGH PARK TREMONT RANCH IS THAT STILL HAPPENING?

>> LET ME, I WILL GO TO COMMENT FIRST OF ALL. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, WE

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ARE TALKING ABOUT A PROPERTY THAT IS ENTIRELY YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP THIS PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.ENTIRELY. YOU SEE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT RIVERTOWN IS COMING INTO DEVELOPING THIS WAY.

>> IT'S GOING TO KILL THE ROADS.

>> RIVERTOWN HAS ROADS IS BUILDING AND RIVERTOWN MAIN STREET WHICH BE A COLLECTIVE ROAD AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY CONNECTING TO GREENBRIER ROAD. AGAIN, GO INTO THE INTERNAL ROADS THROUGH THIS PROJECT THERE IS A ROAD THAT COMES THROUGH AROUND THE SPARK AND COMES INTO THE ACTIVE ADULTS. BUT AS WE DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY THE ACTIVE ADULTS ROADS ARE REMOVED THEMSELVES SO THAT IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, SAY, IN THIS AREA IT LOOKS BACK THERE AND GO THE OTHER WAY. ALSO, THE ROADS THAT WILL BE BUILT AS COLLECTORS SO THEY ARE DESIGNED TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC AND WHEN THE SIGNAL IS WARRANTED AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREENBRIER ROAD (NAME?) ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS WARRANTED AT THE TIME TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO FREELY FLOW THROUGH THAT INTERSECTIONSAFELY.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MERCHANT RANCH , MERCHANT RANCH PUD ITSELF ON ITS MAP SHOWS INTERCONNECTIVITY. THE GOAL OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR PLAN IS TO CREATE INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND SO IF YOU TALK THAT IS ALREADY GOING ON IN THEIR PUD OUR PROJECT DOESN'T ASSERT NEED THEM SO THE COMMISSIONERS DECIDE YOU DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE THIS PARTICULAR INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN BERTRAND RANCH IN THIS PROJECT BUT IT IS PROVIDED IN A PER TERM RANCH.

>> IS THERE A GAUGE?

>> WILL BE A KEY TO THE ACTIVE ADULT SO THE ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY TO MITIGATE BUT IT WILL NOT BE GATED AND GREENBRIER ROAD INTO THE NON-ACTIVE ADULT PORTION.

>> ALL RIGHT, REGARDING THE HOLISTIC REVIEW.

>> THE HOLISTIC REVIEW THERE WAS NO FIRE SKILL COVER HIS PLAN ENOUGH FOR YOU TODAY FOR THE TRANSMITTAL. BUT THERE'S ALSO TO PLANNING AND DEVELPMENTS AND REVIEW BY STAFF AS WELL AS SMALL-SCALE CONFERENCE WILL PLAN A MINUTE.

>> HOLISTIC IS THE TERM I'M WONDERING WHAT THAT MEANT.

>> THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN SAYS WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE-SCALE AMENDED THAT STAFF CAN REQUIRE A REASON THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED SO THE IMAGE OR AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING IN THE DEVELOPMENT. TODAY FOR PRESENTATION WE GAVE YOU THE HOLISTIC REVIEW OF THAT YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON FOR THE TRANSMITTAL TODAY HOW WHEN IT COMES UP FOR ADOPTION THAT WILL TIE IN WITH THE OTHER APPLICATION SO WITH THE USE OF THE PARTIES INTENDED FOR.

>> THANK YOU. THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE YOU SAID THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I THINK THERE'S FIVE THE DEFINITION IS 163.162 AND THE SUPPOSED TO BE FIVE CRITERIA AND WONDERING WHY YOU EVEN MENTION AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE ? IS NOT REALLY THE TRUTH.

>> I DID NOT SAY IT WASN'T THE TRUTH IT WILL NOT APPLY. AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE IS PROVISION IN FLORIDA LAW AND THERE ARE CRITERIA THAT WE COULD HAVE APPLIED TO THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE TO GET LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND GONE THROUGH AN NEGOTIATION PROCESS WITH STAFFREGARDING IT. WE DECIDED TO NOT DO THAT AT THIS JUNCTURE .

WE DECIDED TO FILE A LARGE-SCALE CONFERENCE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION THE PROCESS WE ARE WITH YOU TODAY. CORRECT, LET ME FINISH. THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE STATUTE IN ESSENCE SAYS IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT IS SURROUNDED BY DEVELOPMENT, I'M GOING TO FIND MY, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THIS MAP IS SURROUNDED BY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT HAS LAND-USE SO ALL OF THE PROPERTY AROUND THIS PROPERTY HAVE RESIDENTIAL BE FOR LAND-USE.

THE EXISTING LAND USE MAP EVEN A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY HAS LAND-USE TODAY.

IT IS SURROUNDED ENTIRELY ON ALL FOUR SIDES BY LAND THAT HAS RESIDENTIAL BE B LAND-USE.

WITH THE STATUE SAYS IS YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED FOR AGRICULTURE OVER TIME THIS PROPERTY IS A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR AGRICULTURAL USE THAT IS DOCUMENTED ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE AND SO WE COULD'VE AVAILED OURSELVES OF THAT PROCEDURE. THE ONLY REASON WE POINTED OUT

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IS BECAUSE THAT LOSS LAW SPECIFICALLY SAYS TO ME THIS CRITEIA YOUR CONSIDERED NOT TO BE URBAN SPRAWL.

>> I WANT TO ASK CHRISTINE, IS THAT THE CASE?

>> SORRY, IF YOU COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC.

>> IS THE AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT?

>> I WOULD SAY YES AND NOW. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER CRITERIA IN THE DEFINITION OF AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE CHAPTER 63 THE APPLICANT DID NOT SUBMIT THEIR OWN CRITERIA.

CERTAINLY, BEING SURROUNDED BY 70 PERCENT IS ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA.

THERE IS A SPECIFIC AMENDMENT PROCEDURE THEY COULD HAVE AVAILED THEMSELVES TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE THEY SHOWED NEEDS THE DEFINITION OF AGRICULTURAL ENCLAVE THAT PROCESS WOULD HAVE ACQUIRED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW NO MATTER WHAT. BUT THEY ARE NOT SEEKING THAT AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED EVIDENCE TO STAFF TO ESTABLISH ALL THE CRITERIA.

>> IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS DETERMINED YEARS AGO HOW THEY WANT TO SEE OUR COUNTY BUILT OUT AND IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO PROVE ANYTHING THAT GOES OVER THE LINE AND STOP NONVIOLENT BOUNDARY. ONE COMMENT AND I'LL GET OUT OF YOUR WAY.

REGARDING THE ROADS, IN JULY 17, 2018 YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID THE ROADS WOULD BE FINISHED NO MATTER WHAT AND CONFIRMED THAT WHATEVER THE COST AND WAS COMMITTED TO BE COMPLETED AND THAT YOU ACTUALLY JUST SAID THAT TODAY IF THE DEVELOPER GOES OVER 11 MILLION HE WILL FINISH IT. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG GAP IN THAT ROAD HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED TO BE PAID FOR OR CONNECTED.

>> WELL, I WILL GO TO THAT PART FIRST. I WILL SHOW YOU THE LANGUAGE AND THEN I'LL GO BACK BECAUSE I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH YOU SINCE YOU MENTIONED THIS ON PUBLIC RECORD. , THAT'S AS AN ATTORNEY, I OWE THE SPORT AN ETHICAL DUTY.

I THINK I'VE BEEN PRACTICING LAW IN THIS JURISDICTION FOR 18 YEARS AND DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE COULD EVER SAID THAT I HAVE BEEN ANYTHING BUT CANDID TO THIS BOARD.

>> CORRECT.

>> I WANT TO MENTION THAT YOU MENTIONED A STATEMENT I MADE FIVE YEARS AGO WHICH WAS CORRECT THEN AT THE TIME I MADE IT. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR I WANT TO ALSO SHOW YOU THAT IN THE AGREEMENT THAT IS IN THE RECORD FOR THE NON-AGE STRICTER PROJECT SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS ROAD.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS. SO IT TALKS ABOUT TWO YEARS OF COMMENCEMENT BUT NO LATER THAN THE COUNTY'S APPROVAL OF THE PLAT CONTAINING 300 FIRST RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHICH I KNOW BUT I ALSO SAYS IN THE EVENT THE ACTUAL COST FOR DESGNING, PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTING GREENBRIER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IS MORE THAN THE GREENBRIER ROAD ENGINEERING COST ESTIMATE THE APPLICANT SHALL MAKE SUCH IMPROVEMENTS AND RECEIVE A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR IMPACT ROAD FEE BETWEEN THE ACTUAL COST INCURRED CONSTRUCTING THE ROAD SEGMENT AND THE GREENBRIER ROAD ENGINEERING COST ESTIMATE. THAT IS IN WRITING, THIS IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. WHEN THE TIME COMES, BECAUSE WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU TRANSMITTING THIS COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE AMENDMENT TO STATE AGENCIES, ONCE THAT OCCURS WE CAN FILE AN ALMOST IDENTICAL APPLICATION OR DOCUMENT FOR THE AGE RESTRICTED PORTION OF THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW THE COMP PLAN A MOMENT BEFORE IT'S CEMENTED BY YOUR RULES WE CANNOT FILE A COMPANION DOCUMENT. BUT ONCE THIS IS TRANSMITTED WE CAN FILE AN ALMOST IDENTICAL DOCUMENT FOR THE AGE RESTRICTED THAT HAS THE SAME LANGUAGE. THIS AGREEMENT AND THE ONE FOR THE AGE RESTRICTED CAN COME TO THIS BOARD WITH THE OTHER FOUR APPLICATIONS AND TWO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS OUR DUTY TO THE BOARD AS A CONFERENCE PACKAGE ON ADOPTION AND YOU WILL HAVE IT IN WRITING YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO TRUST OUR WORD ALTHOUGH I WISH YOU WOULD.

IT WILL BE IN WRITING SO YOU WOULD HAVE IT AN AGREEMENT SIGNED BY THE APPLICANT AND BY

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THE COUNTY.

>> THAT'S FINE BUT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE ADDING MORE TO THE ROADS JUST TO GET THE ROADS.

SO I JUST HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE ALREADY IN A LAWSUIT WITH THE CITY WITH THE SAME PAPERWORK.I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

>> WELL, I WANT TO POINT OUT, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER PROJECT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT IS IN WRITING IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.

WHAT I JUST READ TO YOU IS VERY CLEAR. WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN THERE IS IF THERE'S COST OVERRUN. I ALSO WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE ROADS.

THIS PROJECT REQUIRED TO PAY PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF 11 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, COUNTY IS DOING A GREAT JOB ON LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 210 BUT PART OF THE FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT CAME FROM LAND OWNERS WHO ARE BUILDING HOUSES SO PEOPLE CAN LIVE HERE.AND SO, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AGAIN IS AN 11 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR WITH A RISK ON A ROAD CONSTRUCTION COST OVERRUN TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT PROBABLY YOU GUYS WOULD NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO. AND SO, THIS IS A GIVE AND TAKE SITUATION WHERE YOU LITERALLY HAVE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPER WILLING TO COME IN AND BUILD A PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT AND OTHER ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, AGAIN, THE NORTHWEST SECTOR WHICH IS PLANNED TO BE DEVELOPED IN THIS MANNER FOR RESIDENTIAL B LAND USE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND AROUND IT.

>> AND ITS SYMBOL CULTURE, SORRY. OPEN RULES, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. BUT, THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? QUESTIONS? FORGIVE ME, BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE FOLKS REACH OUT ASKING FOR SOME TIME.

>> YES, WE DO HAVE TWO PEOPLE (NAME?) AND (NAME?) SUBMITTED THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION TO ESTABLISH THEY ARE A REPRESENT A GROUP UNDER THE POLICY THEY HAVE OVER 118 ADDRESSES OF FOLKS HAVE AUTHORIZED THEM TO SPEAK SO UNDER THE POLICY THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 10 MINUTES AND IS MANAGING THE WANT TO SPLIT THE TIME.

>> ARE MS. (NAME?) AND (NAME?) WITH US TODAY? WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM 10 MINUTES.

>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WERE ANY OF THE FOLKS WHO SIGNED THEM AUTHORIZING SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK SEPARATELY.

>> DOES ON THE LIST WOULD NOT BE GRANTED?

>> CORRECT.

>> WE WILL BE SLITTING THE 10 MINUTES.I AM TAKING TREATMENTS.

>> WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

>> DEBORAH.

>> SO WERE DOING THIS IN ORDER PUBLIC HERE THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE FIRST WE HAVE 10 MINUTES ON THE CLOCK AND THEN WILL GO RIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THAT WAY IT'S A CLEANER TRANSITION.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> CHRISTINE,--ST. JOHN'S, FLORIDA. THIS IS TO BACK UP ROW QUICK SO THE RESIDENTS ALONG GREENBRIER ROAD DO NOT WANT OUR ROAD FOR LANES THEY SHORTEST THAT ALL WE NEEDED WERE THE IMPROVEMENTS THE TURN LANES. AND THAT WAS A BIG THING WHEN THEY DID THEIR PRESENTATION. IF THEY FOR LENA THE ROAD THEY WILL PUT TREES IN FRONT OF

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MILLCREEK AND RESERVE AND IT WILL MAKE FOR MORE INDUSTRIAL APPEARANCE IN OUR ROAD.

SO THIS OVER HERE THIS IS A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FOR OUR AREA. ALL THE RIVERTOWN TRAFFIC INCLUDING THE APARTMENTS ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL ARE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS NOT SHOWN ON THE SPREADSHEET UNTIL UNITS ARE BUILT AND THE TRAFFIC IS ON THE ROAD. RIVERTOWN IS STILL BUILDING LIKE GANGBUSTERS SO THISIS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE VERY QUICKLY ESPECIALLY IN THE ROADWAYS AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREENBRIER AND LONGLEAF AND EAST OF THE INTERSECTION.

THE ROADWAYS ARE EXTREMELY DEFICIENT AND IN SOME CASES 125 PERCENT AS YOU SEE ON THE SPREADSHEET. THE SECTION OF THE ROAD IS NOT SLATED TO BE FOUR-LANE AT ALL THIS IS TO 10. AS A HUGE PROBLEM AS A WARNING TO LANES AND THEY ARE PLANET WIDE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. LET ME SHOW YOU HOW THE TRAFFIC FLOWS WORKS IN OUR AREA.

ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR SECTION OF GREENBRIER ROAD THEY LEAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO TO WORK 91 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE WILL TAKE ONE OF TWO ROUTES. THE FIRST IS HEADING WEST ALONG GREENBRIER ROAD AND THEN TAKING STATE ROAD 13 TOWARDS MANNER. THIS EVERY MORNING AND AFTERNOON ESPECIALLY DURING CHURCH AND SCHOOL TRAFFIC THAT IS PROTECTED AND CAN NEVER BE FOUR-LANE. THE SECOND ROUTE IS HEADING EAST ON RIVER ROAD AND THEN TAKING TO TEND TOWARDS 90 AND 95. THE FIRST SECTION OF RIVER HEADING EAST AS YOU CROSS OVER LONGLEAF BOTTLENECKS NOW AS MENTIONED IS NO PLAN TO BE WHITED. ALSO THE HILO DEVELOPMENT ABOUT TO EXPLODE OVER THERE.

AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU HEAD WEST ON 210 IS A COMPLETE NIGHTMARE. AND I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

BUT YOU KNOW, 210 ALL THE 210 TRAFFIC AND ALL THE PROMISES IT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE DEPLETED UNTIL 26-27. THE PORTION THAT WAS STARTED AND IT'S STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE. SO AGAIN, WE KNOW THE CONDITION OF OUR TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN OUR AREA AND EXISTING DEVELPMENTS ARE STILL BUILDING. WE ALL KNOW THERE'S AN ADEQUATE STRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE--IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO ADD MORE CARDS TO THIS EXISTING PROBLEM.

HOW CAN WE EVEN CONSIDER IMPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL ADD ALMOST 1400 HOMES WITH THEIR CARS TO BUSINESS. AND LOOK AT STATE ROAD 60 WITH THE DEVELOPER PROMISES AND THE BIGNESS OVER THERE. THE SIZE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH HIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ARE ASKING FOR MORE HOUSES IN THE SUBDIVISION THE MORE ALL THE OTHERS COMBINED. WE ASK THAT IF THE COMMISSIONERS DO VOTE YES AND TO TRANSFER THE COMPASS AND PLAN AMENDMENT THAT THERE'S A TEXT LIMIT REQUIREMENT THAT LIMITS THE LIFE-SIZE TO AN AVERAGE MINIMUM OF 1/4 ACRE TO ENSURE AVAILABILITY WITH THIS CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEMS THAT THE DEVELOPER MADE CLAIMS THAT ARE ENTERING THE AREA.

THIS IS THE -PLAYING THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH THE CARPOOL LANE IS THE LENGTH OF THE LANE WHICH THEY ARE NOT SOLVING. IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT YOU CAN SEE THE CARPOOL LANE AND GREENBRIER THIS WAS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL CARPOOL LANE IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT THAT'S THE CARPOOL LANE SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROBLEMS WITH THE LENGTH OF THE LANE NOT NECESSARILY WHERE IT IS. THEY JUST NEED TO DO A LITTLE WORK THERE TO GET IT RIGHT.

NEXT, WETLANDS.

>> I, LOIS, I HAVEN'T MISSED LANE.ERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE WETLANDS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF THE WETLANDS IN THE WATER FLOW FROM THE KENTUCKY RIVER STREAM. IT APPEARS THIS CURRENT SITE PLAN THE SEX WETLANDS CAUSING THEM TO GO FROM CONNECTED TO WCAUSWETLANDS -- THAT'S WORTHWH OF HESITATION.

THE KENTUCKY BRANCH STREAM AS IT SUBSEQUENTLY INTO THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER.

ISOLATION AND DEGRADATION OF THESE WETLANDS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NATURAL RESOURCES WE

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HAVE IN THE AREA. AFTER SEEING TRUCKS WORK ON THIS PROPERTY FOR SOME TIME WE ASK THAT SOME KIND OF STUDY IS DONE TO BE SURE THESE DITCHES THE IMPORTANT DITCHES THAT ARE MARKED IN BLUE ARE STILL THERE. THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT RECENT ACTIVITY AND THE RETENTION POND AND THE HIGH LEVELS OF WATER IN THEM. WESLEY STATED THAT THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE FEMA A FLOOD ZONE AND THE FEMA A ANZA IS A DESIGNATED FLOODWAY ASSOCIATED FLOOD ZONES THERE SHOULD BE NO IMPACT TO THE FLOODWAY OR ITS CONVEYANCE FOR ITS ABILITY TO PRODUCE THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION MAY RESULT IN DELAYS DURING THE PROJECT -- FEMA A FLOOD ZONES ARE SPECIAL AREAS THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE AND FLOOD INSURANCE. POLICIES. THE A FLOOD ZONE THERE ARE STATISTICALLY SPEAKING A 26 PERCENT CHANCE OF FLOODING OVER THE PERIOD OF A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE. THEN STATED THAT THE NORTHWEST REGIONAL MODEL SHOWS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FLOW FROM THE WETLANDS FROM THE SITE CHANNEL VIA CHANNELIZED CONVEYANCE FROM KENTUCKY BRANCH. TO WHICH THE DEVELOPER STATED IT IS THEIR INTENT TO MAKE THE KENTUCKY BRANCH AS IT EXISTS HOWEVER, IT APPEARS TO BE PROPOSED, THERE APPEARS TO BE PROPOSED STREETS AND HOMESITES DIRECTLY WITHIN IMPACTING THIS WITHOUT CLEAR INDICATION OF MITIGATING THE PATH OF THE FLOW.

THIS COULD RESULT AND FLOOD STAGE NEGATIVE IMPACTS AND A LACK OF POSITIVE OUTFALL TO WESTERLY UPSTREAM PLANS. THEN STATED THIS CONCERN BY TECHNICAL STAFF THAT THE 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT INCREASED BETWEEN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HOLD STORMWATER. STUFF LIKE WERE CLEARLY ON HOW EACH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE BUFFER WILL BE GRADED AND HOW THE AREA WILL BE ADDRESSED AND HAVE POSITIVE OUTFLOW SO AS NOT TO BECOME A NUISANCE. ST. JOHN'S WATER RIVER MANAGEMENT IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE DITCHES SHOWN ON THE MAP COULD WE HAVE A CONTINUANCE OF THE APPLICATION UNTIL THOSE RESULTS ARE IN? ALSO, PLEASE NOTE THE DEVELOPER IS USING THE WETLANDS TO GET A DENSITY BONUS. WHICH SHOWS THEY ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY TO THE UTMOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEED LAND USE WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR CONSISTING LOW DENSITY LARGER LOTS. WE HAVE THEM, THEY ARE THERE.

IT CANNOT BE UNDONE. POSSIBLE FLOODING OF ADJACENT PROPERTIES BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD ZONE A WHICH HE MENTIONED IN THIS AND THERE'S ALSO THE FACT OF ALL THE TIME.

. OF COURSE, IT WILL NEVER BE TO WHAT A TREE CANNOT SOAK UP IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN PROVIDE. THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE SIGNED OFF BY (NAME?) AND HOW THEY WERE ADDRESSED IN ORDER TO SIGN OFF? AND A COUPLE LAST THINGS. IF THE BOARD AND THE DEVELOPER HANG THEIR HATS ON THE PRIOR USE OF THIS LAND NATURE DOES HEAL ITSELF IF 20/20 TAUGHT US NOTHING ELSE IT'S TAUGHT US THAT. GIVEN THE INTERCONNECTIVITY OF THE KENTUCKY BRANCH IN ST.

JOHN'S RIVER --PRIOR TO CLEARING. WHAT IS COMMENCING BEFORE ALL THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT BEING INVOLVED AND PERFORMED PROPER ASSESSMENTS. FINALLY, THERE ARE TWO CURRENT ISSUES ONE IS THE WETLANDS AND ONE IS A FLOOD ZONE. THAT ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED. WHILE SEPARATE ISSUES THEY ARE INTERCONNECTED AND INTERTWINED AND ONE WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE OTHER.

THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT SHOWN CONCRETE EVIDENCE ON HOW THEY WILL ADDRESS EITHER ISSUE AT HAND.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> COLONY AND GREENBRIER. (NAME?) IS REQUESTING A COMPLIMENT THE ACTIVE ADULT PORTION OF LAND USE IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CLUSTER OF PUD'S. WE ARE BASICALLY ASKING THAT HE DENIED FOR SEVERAL REASONS. COMPATIBILITY.

THE APPLICATION IS SUBJECT TO THE GENERAL STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE BOARD OF COUNTY

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COMMISSIONERS OF BREVARD COUNTY VERSUS SIDER. CLAIMANT USE DEVELPMENTS ARE CONSIDERED REZONING AND THEREFORE THE APPLICANT BEARS THE INITIAL BURDEN FOR APPROVAL TO DEMONSTRATE PROPOSED REZONING AS A CONSISTENT WITH DIFFERENT GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE HOPPER HAS A PLAN AND B COMPLIES WITH THE PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE AGENCY BOARD MAY APPROVE OR DENY THE PROPOSED REQUEST REZONING AS EVIDENCE THAT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ZONING DESERVES PUBLIC PURSES.

PURPOSE.T MAY INCLUDE REZONING, PURCHASES AND ARBITRAL PATTERN DEVELOPMENT.

PRODUCES AN INCOMPATIBILITY OR DEVIATION FROM THE ESTABLISHED OR DEVELOPED LOGICAL OR ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT, PROPOSES SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT UPON THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THE ADJACENT NEARBY PROPERTIES OR RETRACTS ON THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. COMPATIBILITY IS BASED ON THE CRITERIA AS OUTLINED BY THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE COMMENTS ON THE ADULT LAND USEDEVELOPMENT .

THEY WERE ASKED OF THEM STRICT COMPLIANCE. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CLEARLY STATED THAT THE AGENCY MAY APPROVE OR DENY THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO REZONE THIS EVIDENCE THAT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ZONING SERVES A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE.

A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR KEEPING THE EXISTING ZONING MAY INCLUDE THAT THE ZONING PURCHASE AND IT PROBABLY OR DEVIATION OR ESTABLISHED DEVELOP OR ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT, PRODUCES SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT UPON PROPERTY VALUES OF THE ADJACENT OR NEARBY PROPERTIES OR DETRACTS FROM THE CHARACTER QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT ALONE IS ENOUGH TO DENY THIS PROJECT. OUR COMMUNITY BEFORE THE APPLICANT AT ALL MEETINGS MANY OF THE DEVELPMENTS IN THIS AREA ARE A MIX OF THOSE SMALL AND LARGE LOTS BUT THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS ONE QUARTER ACRE. DEVELOPER AND THEIR ATTORNEY HAVE NEVER TRIED TO CONTRADICT THIS BUT I'M TRYING TO SKEW THIS NUMBER BY REFERENCING OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR DIRECT AREA. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WAS RIGHT ON. THIS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO DOUBLE HOUSING INVENTORY IN THE GREENBRIER THE LANDINGS WILL HAVE MORE HOUSING IN ALL EIGHT PROPERTIES ON THAT CORNER OF STRETCH OF GREENBRIER. APPROVING THIS WILL HAVE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO THE SERVICES WE RECEIVE IN THE FUNCTION AND DISRUPTION OF THE REGISTRATION.

>> MA'AM, IF YOU COULD HIT YOUR MATERIALS. GOOD MORNING.

>> MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL I LIVE AT 101 (NAME?) LANE AND SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

I WILL TRY THIS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK I CAME PREPARED TO TALK.

THIS IS A PICTURE OF A PROPERTY IN AUSTRALIA. AS YOU SEE THE GREEN AND THERE'S A STARTING OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT. THIS MY COMMENT HERE IT'S OKAY TO SAY NO. THE NEXT PICTURE IS SHOWING AS DEVELOPMENT IS ENSUING YOU SEE THE GREEN IS STILL THERE BUT AROUND THEY ARE DEVELOPING A LOT OF PUD, NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS IS THE WAY IT LOOKS TODAY. THIS HOMEOWNER SAID NO, THEY HAVE CONTINUED AND CONTINUED AND CONTINUED TO ASK TO SELL THE LAND TO DEVELOPMENT AND THEY JUST HUNG ONTO THEIR HATS.

THE PROPERTY NOW I GUESS IS ESTIMATED WORTH $50 MILLION AND IS NOT AMERICA, IT IS AUSTRALIA I THINK IT'S A PRETTY DRAMATIC PICTURE. THE REASON I EVEN BROUGHT THESE PICTURES UP IS BECAUSE THE COMMENT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT SAYS THIS IS THE LAST DEVELOPABLE PARCEL AND IN THIS DISTRICT. THE LAST LARGE AREA THAT IS DEVELOPABLE. THAT TO ME SEEMED A LITTLE JARRING.

COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE ABOUT TRAFFIC AND HOW MANY PROJECTS IN THE AREA WILL BE INCREASED THE DEFICIENT ROADWAYS WILL BE INCREASED ALL OF THIS PRODUCT GOING AND 1300 UNITS WHILE 46 PERCENT OF THE TRIBES OF THE 761 WILL BE REDUCED BECAUSE IT'S SENIOR LIVING.

THE OTHER 540 WILL BE HAVING A DIRECT IMPACT INTO THOSE ROADS AND I DON'T KNOW A FOUR-LANE INTERSECTION IS THE ONLY REAL REPAIR THEY ARE OFFERING FOR THE SCHOOLS.

I THINK THAT EXTENT WHERE POPULATION GROWTH TRENDS WARRANT THIS ACCORDING TO THE

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COMP PLAN A MOMENT. THE TRANSPORTATION AND ADEQUATE INSTRUCTION AND HAS TO BE A QUESTION. I JUST REALLY AM RECOMMENDING THAT YOU DENY THIS TRANSMITTAL FOR THE REASONS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, MOSTLY. I SOUND LIKE I'M JUST SOME ANTI-DEVELOPER AND OBVIOUSLY I DON'T NEED TO BE THAT WAY BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SHOEHORNING ANYTHING WE CAN IN THE DEVELOPERS THEIR JOB I TOTALLY GET IT AND THEY TOTALLY GET TO DO THAT THEY GET TO SELL THE PROPERTY FOR THE MAXIMUM THEY WANT.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME THERE IS AN AREA THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED THE DEVELOPERS WANT TO DEVELOP IT AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LAWYERS THAT'S WANT TO BE SPEAKING ON THE PROJECT I WILL BE OPPOSING COMING OF SAID YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AND THE 10 YEAR PLAN AND THE HUNDRED YEAR PLAN WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING?

>> GOOD MORNING. JORDAN TYNDALL --PEBBLE DRIVE I LIVE JUST NORTH EAST OF THIS PROPERTY INABERDEEN . I GREW UP IN --LIVED THERE MY WHOLE LIFE, WENT TO COLLEGE AND CAME BACK IMMEDIATELY. ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED ABOUT (NAME?) CREEK IS A HAD EVERYTHING I WANTED, CENTERS, SCHOOLS, I CAN WALK TO PUBLIX AND GRAB LUNCH AND IT WAS SAFE.

IT WAS A SAFE PLACE FOR ALL THE KIDS TO GROW UP. ONE OF MY PARENTS NEIGHBORS IS ACTUALLY THE SAME WOMAN THAT LIVES THERE AND SHE WAS MY REALTOR.

SHIFT ME BY MY HOUSE IN ABERDEEN. SHE IS AMAZING AND SPECIAL.

POVERTY HAS BECOME A COMMUNITY THAT I GREW UP IN AND I HELPED TO RAISE HOPE TO RAISE MY FAMILY ONE DAY. SCHOOLS ARE RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE SHOPPING CENTERS THAT ARE RIGHTTHERE, THERE ARE PARKS AND RECREATION , THE KIDS ARE SAFE THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

THE PROPOSAL IS ALSO FOR AN ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY WHICH IS SPECIAL TO ME YOU KNOW I LIVE 10 MINUTES FROM MY PARENTS AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL ALLOW A LOT OF OLDER GENERATIONS TO SEE THEIR KIDS, GRANDKIDS CREATING A STABLE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY.

IN REGARDS TO NOT ONLY THE LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY IMPROVEMENTS THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY GOING TO THE PARK IS PERMITTED ANYWAY SO THIS IS A PLUS.

PROPOSED LAND USE DOES MAKE SENSE. EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS RESIDENTIAL ALREADY AND IN MY OPINION THE HOMES, I WOULD LIKE THAT IN THE AREA.

AS OPPOSED TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. ALONG WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE AMAZING THE FOUR-LANE OF GREENBRIER WILL HELP WITH TRAFFIC EVEN THOUGH IN MY OPINION RIVER ROAD ON MY ROUTES LIVING ALONG LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY IS NOT AS ADJUSTED AS SOME NUMBERS SHOW. I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS I SEE IT WILL CREATE MORE SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN.

MINUS >> MORNING WHEN HE IS STACY LINDA 2695 (NAME?) IN THE RIVER SUBDIVISION THE INITIAL SUBDIVISION ON RIVER ROAD.

MY CHILDREN WENT TO THESE HIGH SCHOOL A DIRT ROAD DOWN TO NICE HIGH SCHOOL.

I AM CONCERNED I WENT TO THE LOCAL MEETING ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AT SWITZERLAND POINT MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEY SAID THERE WOULD NOT BE ACCESS TO OUR DAY.

BUT ALREADY HER CHARM RANCH FOR TERM RANCH THERE ARE ARTICLE CARDS AND THERE IS TRAFFIC ON ELK RUN AND ST. JOHN'S FOX HUNT TRAIL COULD CONNECT TO THIS SENIOR COMMUNITY.

I RECOMMEND DENYING THIS TRANSMITTAL AT THIS TIME UNTIL THERE IS A MORATORIUM, UNTIL INFRASTRUCTURE CATCHES UP. I WILL JUST KEEP IT REAL SIMPL , SOUNDED I WENT OUT GREENBRIER TO STATE ROAD 13 AND THERE WAS A TRAFFIC JAM BEFORE I GOT TO THE SHOPPING CENTER.

SUNDAY I TRIED TO GO TO PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH FOR A MOTHER'S DAY SERVICE AT 10:30

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AM ON 210 AND I WAS A HALF-HOUR LATE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC JAM OVER THE PALM VALLEY BRIDGE.

THE LIGHTS ARE NOT CORRECT. AND THEN COMING HERE I WENT DOWN 210 WAS GOING 210 TO U.S.

ONE I LEFT AT 830 IN THE MORNING THE SCHOOLS WERE ALREADY IN SESSION AND I JUMPED ON A 95 S. BECAUSE THERE WAS TRAFFIC JUST BEYOND 95, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST A MESS THERE AND IT TOOK ME AN HOUR WHERE IT USED TO TAKE ME A HALF-HOUR. WHEN YOU SPEAK OF WETLANDS AND FLOOD ZONES OUR COMMUNITY WAS BUILT AND, I DON'T KNOW, THE EARLY 90S AND NOW THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO CUT NINE FEET OF SOIL TO BRING THE HEIGHT OF THE LOTS UP.

SO, IF WE ARE 65 HOMES WITH NOTHING BUT A FIREWALL EDGE, NO SEWAGE SYSTEM, HOW ARE WETLANDS AND FLOOD ZONES GOING TO AFFECT US WHEN A NEW COMMUNITY COMES IN?

>> HI, SHERRY BADGER, 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THESE PEOPLE ARE REALLY ASKING FOR YOU NOT TO OVERSTRESS THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHICH WE HAVE ALL HAVE BEEN PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. IT FELL ON DEAF EARS.

IF THE COUNTY NEEDS MONEY WHEN YOU INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO COLLECT SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE. IT HASN'T BEEN PAID BACK FROM (NAME?) AND OF A LOT OF EACH YOU ONLY DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND NOT OVERSTRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. BADGER.

>> I HAVE TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, --IN DEFAULT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM FROM A FEW YEARS AGO.

I CAN'T SECURE INTO LISTEN TO THAT AND NOT SEE THE TRUE FACTS.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CARRIE I WASN'T PREPARED TO COME THE I AM WORKING FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS TO WORK ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PAID THE TEACHERS.

I AM THE PTA PRESIDENT AT NICE HIGH SCHOOL I'M A RESIDENT MOM OFTEENAGERS LIVING THE SCHOOLS HERE . I DON'T THAT THIS PROPOSAL DOESN'T TECHNICALLY BRING MORE, SCHOOL BUDGET IS IN THE BILLIONS SOLD 1 MILLION IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

I THINK IT'S 75 MILLION MINIMUM TO BUILD A SCHOOL NOWADAYS. WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY IS WE HAD 79 VACANCIES DOCUMENTED IN OCTOBER 79 CLASSROOMS WITHOUT A TEACHER.

IN THE LAST FEW YEARS WE OPENED EACH SIDE INTO COURT SO SHE TALKED ABOUT OPENING THREE K-8 WE WILL SEE K-8 VACANCIES RISE INCREDIBLY. WE CANNOT PAY OUR TEACHERS CANNOT RECRUIT AND RETAIN THEM THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE COUNTY TO LIVE IN.

WE NEED SOME HELP FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SLOW EVERYTHING DOWN.

AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN MY KIDS HAVE TO GET ON A BUS AND THEY MISSED THE FIRST 25 MINUTES OF GEOMETRY HONORS THEY ARE IN TROUBLE GEOMETRY HONORS. WHEN THE ROADS ARE BACK UP KIDS ARE NOT LEARNING. WHEN THERE IS VACANCIES IN THE CLASSROOMS KIDS ARE NOT LEARNING. I'M GOING TO SPEAK LATER MORE ON WHAT THE MAGISTRATE FOUND BUT WE REALLY NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND GET THIS LAND IF IT DOES NOT GET TRANSMITTED BECAUSE OF ALL THE BUSINESS PEOPLE GIVE YOU WITHOUT BE GREAT BECAUSE THEN WE WILL SEE THE OTHER ONES COMING BACK THAT ARE GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM DON'T KNOW OF ANY SCHOOL BEING BUILT FOR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS IN THAT SECTION WE BUILT OUR TWO HIGH SCHOOLS RECENTLY IN THE SECTION OF NICE AND NOW WE ARE SUFFERING FOR NOT HAVING ENOUGH TEACHERS. THE KEY.

>> THANK YOU, MAMA. MA'AM. GOOD MORNING.

>> MY NAME IS SONJA --. I AM THE CHAIRMAN OPINION AS WELL.

THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE 55 CLASS WOULD BRING TO THE SCHOOL WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TO PAY THE TEACHERS TO GIVE STUDENTS MORE SPACE TO LEARN. YOU HAVE SEEN SWISS POINT ALREADY WE HAVE AT LEAST 10 MORE PORTABLES THE PORTABLES GO BY THE STREET.

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YOU CAN GO BY AND PORTABLES ARE IN THE STREET ALREADY. THE STUDENTS ARE BEING CRAMMED INTO THE SPACES WE DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE TEACHERS. I HAVE MY KID IS NICE HIGH SCHOOL IT SHOULD TAKE MORE THAN 20-25 MINUTES TO DROP HIM THEREFORE SCHOOL WE HAVE TO LEAVE THE HOUSE 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR EARLIER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH TRAFFIC TO THE SCHOOL. SAME THING BACK AND FORTH EVERY DAY.

TO TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO THE KIDS PARK WE HAVE TO LEAVE 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE PARK AND SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 10-15 MINUTES.

SO TRAFFIC IS REALLY STRESSED WE NEED HELP. THERE IS NO MORE RESOURCES FOR WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW BRINGING MORE PEOPLE AND CARS IS GOING TO HELP IN ANY WAY. EVEN IF THEY BUILD THE STREETS AND GIVE MONEY TO SCHOOLS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

>> THANK YOU, MAMA.

>> I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THE POTENTIAL PROJECT.

I HAVE SEVERAL ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE PROPOSALS PUT FORTH BY (NAME?) FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO GREENBRIER ROAD. ISSUE ONE, YOUR OFFERING A FOUR LANE WIDE GREENBRIER ROAD FOUR INCHES OF THE PROPERTY IS FINE FOR THEM. HOWEVER, HAS GIVEN ANY THOUGHT ON HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT THE HOMEOWNERS CURRENTLY LIVING AND SUBDIVISIONS WEST OF YOUR ENTRANCE? I FORESEE THE WHINING OF THE ONE-MILE GREENBRIER AS AN ACCELERANT TO WIDENING THE ENTIRE GREENBRIER TO STATE ROAD 13 THEREFORE EACH SUBDIVISION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GREENBRIER COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE A SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER THUS AFFECTING THE VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES. ANY WIDENING OF GREENBRIER ALSO RAISES A POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL INFILL WHICH HER RESIDENCE DO NOT WANT AND WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT. AS A WIDENING OF GREENBRIER HAS FURTHER ATTENTION TO INVITE INCREASED TRAFFIC FLOW WHEN THE COAST EXPRESSWAY EXIT ONTO LONGLEAF PINE AS GREENBRIER AND ROBERTS ROAD TRULY TO BE USED AS SHORTCUTS FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO MANDARIN AND PARKS NORTH ON SAN JOSE. WHINING ANY PART OF GREENBRIER WILL MAKE OUR GREENBRIER COMMUNITIES A LESS DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE. ISSUE NUMBER TWO, CONNECTIONS TO LONGLEAF.THE (NAME?) PROPERTY ABUTS COUNTY PROPERTY TO ITS EAST.

THIS COUNTY PROPERTY ABUTS HILO PROPERTY TO ITS EAST CONNECT TO LONGLEAF PINE SOUTH OF PUBLIX CANNOT (NAME?) ST. JOHNS COUNTY HILO INVESTIGATE CONNECTIVITY TO CONSTRUCT ACCESS TO THE LANDINGS OFF OF LONGLEAF PINE LOOKING AT THE HILO PROPOSAL SHOWS ACCESS TO THE COUNTY PROPERTY WILL BE THE THROUGH THE HILO PROPERTY. AND IT'S STATING THIS PROJECT NEEDS ANOTHER ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSE. ISSUE THREE, THE PROPOSAL.

SAFETY ZONE ON RIVER GREENBRIER BEARING STUDENTS TODAY. SCHOOLS.

SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY SCHOOLS SHOULD RETURN TO THE ORIGINAL CAPACITIES.

THE STUDENT POPULATION IN THIS AREA WILL KEEP GETTING TO SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL OVERCAPACITY WILL IN THE FUTURE AS PROJECTED OPENING OF THE RIVERTOWN K-8 AND 2500 2005-2006.

>> GOOD MORNING. JEN 171 NORTH WEINER COURT. ON THE MOTHER OF GRADE 8 STUDENTS WAS ON SCHOOL AND HAVE CHILDREN ATTENDING ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SCHOOLS FOR OVER 15 YEARS. IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SCHOOLS IN OUR AREA. I'VE LIVED IN OXFORD STATES FOR MANY YEARS AS WELL AS LONGLEAF PINE IN THE QUARTER ROUGHLY 15 YEARS. EXPENSE THE ACCIDENT TRAFFIC THAT STACKS UP ALONG. WHERE WEAVERS WILL GET OUT. BE CRUCIAL FOR THE PARENTS TO HAVE A PLAN THAT IS IN A USE FOR PASSING TRAFFIC. SCHOOL SAFETY IS NOT ONLY

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IMPORTANT IN THE CLASSROOM IS ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO GETTING YOUR KIDS TO AND FROM SCHOOL. WE LEARNED THIS ISSUE ISN'T NECESSARILY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE COUNTY OR THE SCHOOL BOARD IS LIKELY TO NEVER CHANGE UNLESS OFFERED FOR FREE TO THE COUNTY. REGARDLESS, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO.

I CAME IN TODAY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE FUTURE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA MA'AM

>> I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE LATEST PROJECT, RESIDENT OF OXFORD ESTATES SINCE 2015 WITH MY WIFE. I'M PLEASED TO SEE LONGLEAF GETTING THE WHINING ROADWAYS COMPLETED AND ALSO PLEASED TO SEE THE DEVELOPER AT THE INTERSECTIONS I GREENBRIER AND LONGLEAF. AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT GIVES ME HOPE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BECOME A CRISIS BEFORE IT GETS ANY ATTENTION FROM THE COUNTY.

FURTHER, I CURRENTLY HAVE TWINS THAT ARE RISING SOPHOMORES AT BERTRAM TRAIL HIGH SCHOOL AND SOON WILL BE DRIVING THEMSELVES TO SCHOOL EACH DAY. IT IS MY CONCERN THAT AS TRAFFIC WORSENS THROUGHUT THE OUTER BELTWAY TO MAKE IT MORE DANGEROUS BRINGING THEMSELVES TO AND FROM SCHOOL EVERY DAY. THE EXTRA TOURNAMENTS WILL BE NECESSARY TO KEEP KIDS SAFE GIVING THE SCHOOL THE MORNING AND HOPEFULLY COMING HOME IN THE AFTERNOON.

THE SCHOOLS WILL INCLUDE BETTER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS LEAVING OLD SCHOOLS BEHIND.

>> GOOD MORNING I LIVE AT 1321-- THAT IS ABOUT A MILE AND AND A HALF WEST OF WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO BE HERE SINCE OCTOBER 28TH, 1962.

I HAVE SEEN THE AREA GROW MY ENTIRE LIFE I LIVE WITH MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY FROM Z?RICH AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THE LANDINGS PRESENTATION. I'M COGNIZANT OF THE TRAFFIC WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL THIS ROAD WAS UNPAVED IT WAS A DIRT ROAD.

ON 13 HEADING SOUTH YOU CAN USE YOUR IMAGINATION. WIDENING THE ROAD, --IT WAS PARTIALLY PAVED AFTER THE NAVY STOPPED PAVING AND ALSO BACK THEN.

210 IS NOTHING LIKE IT IS TODA . I WAS THERE WHEN THE FIRST TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE THAT WOULD DRIVE THROUGH AT STARBUCKS AND WHEN THAT LIFE WAS THERE I'VE SEEN EVOLUTION. I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD THE DEVELOPERS YOU WOULD THINK SENIOR OVER 60 YEARS NOW HAVING TO LOOK RIGHT AND LEFT MULTIPLE TIMES YOU WITH THE COUNTY AGAINST THIS. THE OTHER DEVELPMENTS AROUND ME PARTICULAR WITH THE PLANTATION WHICH IS WHERE I GREW UP THAT IS CHANGED ACCIDENTALLY ACCIDENTALLY.

I COMMITTED THESE HOMES ADDED VALUE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADDED UTILITIES AND SERVICES AND COMMITMENT FROM THE COUNTY THAT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY HAD NOT RECEIVED BUT THEY DEMANDED. I SAW IT DONE WELL AND I SAW THE APPLICANT TODAY RETAIN COUNSEL, RETAIN CONSULTANTS WHO ARE THE TOP IN THEIR INDUSTRY. IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE THEN A PART OF DEVELOPER THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED AND THEY HAVE NOT HIRED THE BEST IN CLASS TO ASSIST YOU IN DEVELOPING AND DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY .

CROSSING, PLANTATION, THE COLLINS AUGUSTINE HERE ALL MORNING THEY HAVE EMBODIED THAT EVEN IF THE SCALE THEY ARE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A DEVELOPER TO INVEST FUNDS IN THE RIGHT WAY ON TIME AHEAD OF SCHEDULE TEMPERATURE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND I THINK THAT'S A BLESSING.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD MORNING.

>> I AM NANCY LIVE AT 25 CRAWFORD COURT. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME

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TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THIS PROPOSED VALUE TODAY AND EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I LIVE IN RESERVE FROM GREENBRIER ACROSS THE STREET MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LARGE SECTION OR TWO ENTRANCE SIGNS WILL BE REMOVED HOPEFULLY LOCATED.

MY KIDS LOVE WALKING AND BIKING ON A GREENBRIER OF THE STOLEN MAKE THE ROAD EVEN BUSIER ALONG WITH THE ADDED SAFETY CONCERN THE CARS NOW CHANGING LANES ONCE GREENBRIER BECOMES FOUR LANES. OLDEST TURNED 16 YESTERDAY HATE THE IDEA OF THEM TURN THE DREAMER ROAD GIVEN ALL THE ACCIDENTS GUESSING ALREADY. THESE ISSUES ARE SERIOUS BUT THE REAL ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS OUR SCHOOLS.VER TIME AT THE AGE RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT TODAY AT THE ZONING MEETING ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS POINTED OUT FOR ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL WHICH IS CLEVER.

THREE KIDS AT THE SCHOOL WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED WINNING 12 -- AND MAYBE COMING TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'LL MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE THE RULES ARE SET UP TO PRIORITIZE OUR KIDS IF THEY WERE WE WOULD BE IN THE MESS TODAY. BUT I REFUSE TO PLAY THIS GAME WHEN WE ACT LIKE OUR SCHOOLS SHOULD NOT BE THE CENTER OF THIS DISCUSSION.

I FOURTH-GRADER DEBRIS TOO MANY PORTALS ALREADY. SCHOOL EVENTS ARE NOT FUN ANYMORE AS THE TOO CROWDED. SCHOOL STARTED THIS YEAR WITH TEACHERS HOLDING CLASSES AND COMMON SPACES BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CLASSROOMS. IT'S BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. THEY ARE STRUGGLING THEY DON'T GO IN THE HALLWAYS AT THE SAME TIME ANYMORE IS EVEN WITH THIS PORTALS THE HALLWAY, KATRINA, PARKING LOTS AND OTHER SHARED AREAS REMAIN INADEQUATE TO ACCOMMODATE THE STUDENTS. FORMAL SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD THE PARENTS ARE WORRIED ABOUT CARS CRASHING INTO THEM IN SCHOOL TO STUDENTSTARGET THEM BY DRIVING BY OR STANDING ON THE STREET.

BERTRAM'S OVERCROWDING AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC SAFELY DILUTE--I'M A MEMBER OF BERTRAM STUFF AND

WE ASK FOR A LECTURE HALL STYLE >> WITH 90 STUDENTS THESE ARE THE TYPE OF STUDENTS THAT GIVE AND REALLY HARD-WORKING PEOPLE ARE SCHOOLS ARE GRASPING FOR.

EVEN IF YOU KNOW MORE SCHOOLS WE JUST ON THE STAFF. A LOT OF NICE NEVER PROSTRATE MUST I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT BUT WE NEED TO HAVE NEEDED TO BE FAIR TO BUSINESS AND HER CHILDREN. ANY REALISTIC TIMELINES. CHOOLS WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR LEGISLATORS HAVE DONE A LOT OF BENEFITS BUT THEY DEMANDED OUR SCHOOLS IN THE PROCESS AND THAT'S WHAT WERE SEEN HERE TODAY. WE HEAR.

GAS ON THE FLAMES BUT IS IN HER BOTTOM LINES THAT MAKE US--I DON'T ENVY THE POSITION AND MAKES ME SO SAD AND HUMBLE TO BE HERE PLEADING FOR OUR SCHOOLS.

TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT WORDS TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT WHO ARE COUNTING ON US TO DO BETTER THAN WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. ( MS. (NAME?).

>> TRUCK, 7148 -- I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GOING IN AND IMPROVING. NOT ALL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE GOING EAST. THEY ARE GOING TO BE GOING WEST ALSO THEY WILL BE GOING OVER (WORD?) WAS CAN HAPPEN ON THE SCENIC HIGHWAY 13 NORTH AND SOUTH? THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. HOWEVER THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE RUGBY? WHAT I WOULD LOVE IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO FIX AN ISSUE CREATED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THE SCHOOL BOARD WENT INTO DEVELOPING AND PLANNING SOME PROPERTIES THEY HAD FOR THE SCHOOL THEY ARE NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE CAUSE-AND-EFFECT THAT THEY'RE HAVING ON YOUR ROADS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ROADWAYS.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES NOT SIT DOWN WITH THE COUNTY AND TAKE CARE OF THESE ISSUES THAT THEY ARE CREATING. AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC IS THE MAJOR ISSUE WITH THAT MANY HOMES IN THAT AREA WE HAVE FOUR LANES GOING EAST AND TWO LANES GOING WEST. WHEN IS THE COUNTY GOING TO IMPROVE THOSE OTHER AREAS? RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING FROM (NAME?) OVER TO THE ENTRANCE OF HIS COMMUNITY SO YOU CREATING A BOTTLENECK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER WADE ACOSTA STREET HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT, AS WELL, FOR THE LATEST PROJECT. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT STRUGGLED WITH SMART GROWTH AS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND ATTENDING COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS AND UNDERSTAND THE TROUBLES YOU WILL FACE. HOWEVER, I HAVE REALLY SEEN A PROJECT PROPOSED THAT DEALS WITH THE STRUGGLES THE COUNTY IS FACING HEAD ON. SOME OF THOSE THINGS WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THE ALLOCATION THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INITIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE SCHOOL BOARD OF NURSING THE RECOGNITION FOR PROJECT THE SCHOOL BOARD KNOWS

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BEST WHAT IT NEEDS AND THE FACT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING THE AGE RESTRICTION THAT THIS IS A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY BOTH IN TERMS OF PROVIDING THAT TYPE OF HOUSING THAT'S REALLY LACKING AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY AREA BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT IS NOT TO PUT THE BURDEN ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT SO MANY OTHER DEVELOPERS USING THIS PROPERTY WOULD ACTUALLY ADD TWO. SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS UPFRONT STORMWATER FACILITIES THE LIKES OF WHICH I HAVE NOT PREVIOUSLY SEEN BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN TERMS OF PROJECT DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO A HUGE BENEFIT.

I HAVE SEEN OVER THE YEARS WHERE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY ARE DENIED AND APPROVING A ZONING THAT ACTUALLY DOES MORE DAMAGE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN WITH THE ORIGINAL THING PROPOSED AND I'M AFRAID TO START FACING THAT ACTUAL REALITY HERE.

THERE IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING FOR THE SCHOOLS A LOT OF WHICH ALL THE COMMENTS TODAY HAVE ADDRESSED THE ROADWAY CONDITIONS AND SAFETY CONCERNS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS THE FACT THAT DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT PROPORTIONATE SHARE BACK IS PRETTY CRUEL TO ME AND SOMETHING I HAVE NOT HEARD DONE FOR MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS APPROVED.

THERE HAS NOT BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF THE SENATE WITH THE STOLEN THE FACT THAT ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF THE PROJECT WILL BE CONSERVED TOOPEN SPACE .

TO THE EARLIER PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH THE AUSTRALIAN PARK 50 PERCENT OF THE ACREAGE PROPOSED IS GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE. YOU DO HAVE THAT FEATURE THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY DEVELOPERS EVER PROPOSED BEFORE. 50 PERCENT CONSERVATION OF THE AREA.

THEN HAVING 56 PERCENT THE AGE RESTRICTED I THINK WANT TO HEAR OVER THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 YEARS STRUGGLING WITH PROVIDING HOUSING FOR THAT AGE DEMOGRAPHIC AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO MOVE TO FLORIDA IT'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO GRAB THE EXTRA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR THAT REASON HOPE THE COUNTY COMMISSION WILL SUPPORT THIS PROJECT . THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 1 SKEE? GOOD MORNING MS. (NAME?).

>> GOOD MORNING. (NAME?) SAINT AUGUSTINE. HAS BEEN INTERESTING THIS MORNING ABOUT 945 UNTIL 1115 WE ARE ONLY ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

WHICH IS GOOD EVERYONE HAS HAD THEIR SAY I THINK THERE ARE SOME MORE COMING UP.

JUST LOOKING AND LISTENING I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE A 3-1 VOTES TO PASS THIS.

I AM NOT FOR THAT BUT YOU CAN VOTE HOW YOU WANT TO VOTE I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS COME HERE AND YOU THE REASONS WHY IT SHOULDN'T. BUT THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER REBUTTAL BY THE TEAM THAT'S PROPOSING THIS AND MY CONCERN IS THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S 11:15 A , 11:30 AM WE ARE SUPPOSED BE DOING PUBLIC COMMENT, CAN YOU AFTER YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION ON THIS ONE LET US KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AS FAR AS NUMBER TWO EITHER BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT OR AFTER PUBLIC COMMEN ? THAT'S MY REAL CONCERN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I AM LISTENING OUTSIDE AND CAME IN AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE PUBLIC, THE RESIDENCE ESPECIALLY, WHO LIVE CLOSE TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPE .

IT COMES IN HERE AND SPEAKS, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT YOU ALL KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS YOU MAKE PEOPLENERVOUS , NOT M , OKAY, THEY ARE NERVOUS TO COME IN HERE AND SPEAK.

NO, NO, NO THEY NEED TO GET OVER THAT YOU NEED TO SMILEMORE .

JUST MORE SMILES, HONEST SMILES THOUGH, DON'T FAKE IT. WE KNOW THE FAKES.

REALLY TRULY THINK I'M GLAD WE ARE MOVING ALONG ON THIS I KNOW FOR THE PEOPLE HERE WE IF YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS AND WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS TIME IS LOOKS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE TO MAYBE MIDNIGHT. I AM LEAVING BEFORE THAT SO DON'T WORRY, DON'T WORRY.

BUT I'M JOKING ABOUT THAT BUT REALLY LET'S MAKE THIS DECISION AND LET US KNOW SITTING OUT HERE WE CAN EXPECT. VOTE PRE-ONE FOR IT. I'M WITH THE ONE AGAINST IT IN CASE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MS. (NAME?).

>> GEORGE SPIEGEL, 101. BUYER LANE, SAINT AUGUSTINE. AS AN OLD SAYING THAT GOES IF

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YOU GET A LITTLE BOY A HAMMER IS GOING TO FOUND SOMETHING TO POUND WITH IT.

I KNOW THAT HAVING A CHILD SO THE ANALOGY WOULD BE THAT AN OPEN PIECE OF LAND SOMEONE IS GONNA WANT TO BUILD ON IT. SO BJ WAS TALK ABOUT A 1-3 VOTE WHAT IF THERE'S A TYPE VOTE? WHAT ARE YOUR RULES OF A TYPE VOTE? IS STYLE, CORRECT? IT'S A DENIAL, CORRECT? BECAUSE WERE MISSING A COMMISSIONER.

>> WE WILL BE TAKING OUT THE TRASH LATER TOO. ANYONE ELSE?

>> GOOD MORNING, I WILL BE QUICK. DAVID HENSLEY 392 SANCTUARY I'M ACTUALLY NOT TOO FAR FROM THE GOING TO GO A LITTLE OFF SCRIPT AS I WAS LISTENING TO OTHER PEOPLE. I CAME TO FAVOR FOR THE WINNING PROJECT ON GREENBRIER ROAD.

I'M A RETIRED. SERVICING THIS COUNTRY. I DROVE IN (NAME?) IT'S THOSE THAT ARE A LOT OF THE ROADS WERE NOT PAVED. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE REMEMBER'S THE RISE AND RESISTANCE FOR THE MCDONALD'S THAT STANDS THERE TODAY IS WHAT THOSE PROFITABLE CHANGE THERE IS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE IN IMPACT UNDERSTAND THAT. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE MORE THAN 30 YEARS THERE'S NO BETTER PLACE TO CALL HOME. I'VE LIVED OFF OF LONGLEY PARKWAY FOR OVER 18 YEARS AND HAVE CHILDREN THAT ATTEND SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCHOOLS BERTRAM AND SAN JUAN DEL RIO.

ALL FOUR OF THE SCHOOLS ON LONGLEAF PARKWAY THE HIGH SCHOOL IS WHEN THE MORE DIFFICULT SCHOOLS TO ACCESS MOST OF THE SCHOOLS HAVE CYCLES TO ALLOW VEHICLES TO GO OFF THE MAIN ROAD CREEKSIDE WAS THE SAME UNTIL THIS LAST YEAR THERE STATISTICALLY FOR ACCIDENTS BEFORE THE HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE THEY OPEN THE SECONDARY ROAD. WHEN MY DAUGHTER TRIES TO BERTRAM THERE'S ONLY ONE ACCESS AND ONE SHORT TURNING LANE THIS HAS BECOME MORE PROBLEMATIC IN THE FUTURE WITH THE EAST COAST EXPRESSLY OPENS AND PUBLIC TRAFFIC BEGINS TO TRAVEL PAST BERTRAM TO THE INTERSTATE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OFFER TO EXTENT THE TURNING PLANS INTO THE SCHOOL TO HELP STUDENTS, STAFF BY THE END OF THE DAY IS PROJECT PRODUCT PROGRESS AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IT'S IN THE STRUCTURE.

IT TAKES TIME, RESOURCES, MONEY, PEOPLE, EMPLOYMENTS YOUR PAIN PEOPLE TO PUT THINGS ON TABLES SO YOU THINK ANYONE IS JEOPARDIZING PEOPLE'S LIVES, LIKELIHOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FROM THISPROPOSAL . IT'S ONE THAT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THE COUNTY POCKET.

SO YEAH, I AM IN FAVOR WANT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT, THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR. NOW THE APPLICANT CAN RESPOND.

>> FOR BEGIN MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE HAVE OUR POWERPOINT BACK? SO I'M GOING TO GO TO THE SUMMARY. IT'S PERFECT!. I DO WANT TO START OUT WAITING OUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT EVIDENCE. BECAUSE I AM A LAWYER AND WE TALK ABOUT EVIDENCE AND I SAY THIS TO BE VERY RESPECTFULLY BECAUSE I REALIZE THIS PROCESS IS LEGALLY CUMBERSOME.

WE HEARD TESTIMONY HEAR FROM THE LAYPEOPLE ABOUT TRAFFIC, ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL AND ABOUT THE MENTION OF PUD'S WHICH IS WE NEED TO SAY THE RECORD WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY IS A LARGE-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION FOR AN AGE RESTRICTED DEED WHICH WILL INCLUDE ZERO SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. I MEAN THAT'S THE MOST

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IMPORTANT THING TO POINT OUT. RIGHT NOW. AND SO, I'M GOING TO HAVE MY TRAFFIC EXPERTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERTS BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPERTS PUBLIC THE DEVICE MAINTENANCE AND WHAT TO STARE OUT SHOWING YOU THIS SEGMENT WHICH IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ROADS. WITH RESPECT TO RIVERTOWN WHICH IS AROUND THIS PROPERTY ON THREE SIDES RIVERTOWN IS BUILDING, RIVERTOWN MAIN STREE , WHICH WILL COME UP TO THIS AREA AND CONNECT TO GREENBRIER ROAD. THEY PROVED DEVELOPED METHOD OF RIVERTOWN. THERE BE ANOTHER CONNECTION TO GREEN BERET.

I ALSO THINK IT BEARS TO NOTE THAT GREENBRIER ROAD AND THE COUNTIES PLANNING IN THE LAST DECADE OR MORE THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE TODAY ACTUALLY HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY RESERVATIONS WHY THEY WOULD WANT GREENBRIER ROAD FOR LANES --IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE COUNTY'S POSITION TO WIDEN GREENBRIER ROAD TO FOUR LANES. GOING BACK TO THE SUMMARY SLIDE THIS PROJECT BRINGS AND THE REASON WE PRESENTED TOGETHER AGAIN FOR ALL FOUR OF THESE ALLOCATIONS IS 11 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR BENEFIT FOR ROADS. SIGNIFICANT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT WILL TYPE INTO THE OUTER BELTWAY AND THAT'S WHAT ALL OF US WILL EXPECT. $1 MILLION MORE IN TAXES FROM AN AGE RESTRICTED NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD. --ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THE PRESERVATION. SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO NOTE THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TRICIA COME UP AND TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION HE IS AN EXPERT AND I'M NOT.

BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE I BELIEVE PERHAPS MISUNDERSTANDINGS ABOUT SOME OF HIS CONCLUSIONS AND HIS STAFF REPORT RELATED TO PROJECT DIRECTIONAL TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S BEEN THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING

>> 8833 --FOUR. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ARE THIS VISION OF TRAFFIC. WE RAN EXTENSIVE TRAFFIC FUTURE CONDITIONS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COAST EXPRESSWAY. IN THEORY PROVES IT TODAY THE REALITY WHICH IS GOOD BE THE FUTURE THE MODEL THE COUNTY USES WE ALL COME TOGETHER SO WITHOUT MODEL WE SO THAT THE TRAFFIC DISTRIBUTIONAL WILL GO MUCH TO THE EAST AND WEST BUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE EAST COAST EXPOSURE. THE WIDENING WILL BE ESSENTIAL TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC IN THE FUTURE SO WITH THIS PROJECT IS DOING IS ADDING TO THOSE NEEDS WE ARE GOING TO WIDEN THE ROAD TO THE EAST NOT TO THE WEST SO THAT'S ONE IMPROVEMENT. SO THE TURN LANES HAS BEEN PROPOSED ON GREENBRIER FOR THE SCHOOLS ARE LIKE TO SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE DID EXTENSIVE OBSERVATION OF THE SITE AND WE ALSO A LOT OF ANALYSIS AND THE SOLUTION THERE SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO SHORT-TERM LANES GOING INTO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WHAT THIS DOES THIS INTERSECTION THE CUT TURN LANES SO THE TRAFFIC GOING INTO THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO STACK ONTO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CONCERNING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO THE TRAFFIC GOES BEYOND THAT AND THAT'S BASICALLY COMING IN STACK OF THEIR AND GO TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO WE PROPOSE IS OPENING THAT GAP UP.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME INTO THE TRAVEL LANE TO TURN. IN RELATION TO THAT IS ALSO CREATING A SECOND TURN LANE SO THE TRAFFIC IS CURRENTLY THERE WILL BE USING THE SECOND TURN LANE FOR THEIR GETTING AWAY FROM THE TRAFFIC. WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING THE EXTENSION THE WAY TRAFFIC FROM THE SCHOOLS THEY STUCK ON THAT CURRENTLY NOT IN THE TRAVELING.

SO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF GREENBRIER ROAD TREMENDOUSLY BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BLOCK THE TRAFFIC. THE IMPACT FOCUS SOME OF THE SAFETY OFFICERS AND EXPRESSED

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WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE EXTENSION OF THE TURN LANE ON LONGLEAF WHICH IS FULLY ESSENTIAL BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE WHEN THIS WAS CONSULTED TRAFFIC WAS CAN BE ON LONGLEAF THAT EXTENSION FOR THE SAFETY EXITING AND ENTERING THE SCHOOL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.

>> OKAY AND THANK YOU RAJESH. IF WE CAN GET OUR POWERPOINT BACK UP I DID WANT TO COMMENT BECAUSE A COUPLE OF THE SPEAKERS PUT UP SLIDES. ONE OF THE LADIES WHO SPOKE DURING THAT FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION SHE HAS SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE STAFF REPORT I'M SORRY FROM THE STAFF REVIEW JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHEN STAFF REVIEWS APPLICATION DOCUMENTS THEY PROVIDE WRITTEN COMMENTS THE APPLICANT IN RESPONSE TO SATISFY THE QUESTIONS.

WITH THE LADY SHOWED IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTED WITH THE COMMENTS ALONG THE WAY THAT WILL BE SIGNED OFF BY STAFF BECAUSE HOURS EXPERTS ENVIRONMENTAL, TRAFFIC, WHATEVER HAD THE REQUISITE INFORMATION'S STAFF AND THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AND SIGN OFF. HIS COMMENTS ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE TO A BELIEF IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE WORTH COMING SO THERE ARE NO OPEN COMMENTS ON THE PROJECT.I WANT TO MENTION THAT TO YOU FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE THOSE COMMENTS ARE NO LONGER OPEN.

>> GOOD MORNING. RYAN CARTER, PROFESSIONAL WETLAND SCIENTIST AND BEEN LIVING HERE FOR ABOUT 23 YEARS. THE TYPE OF SPECIES WORK. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEY WERE COMMENTS ABOUT CREATING ISOLATED WETLANDS AS RESULT OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT IF I COULD SHOW ON THE SCREEN.

>> CAN YOU PUT UP OUR POWERPOINT AGAIN THAT HAS THAT WETLAND SCREENSHOT ON IT?

>> JUST TO POINT OUT AS YOU CAN SEE.

>> I'M SORRY I ASKED THEM TO SWITCH.

>> IS REALLY QUITE SIMPLE. THE NORTHWEST PART OF THIS POST PROJECT CLOSE TO KENTUCKY PRINTERS THE NAMED WETLAND SYSTEM IN THIS CHANNEL IN THE SOUTHEAST SIDE THOSE TWO ORANGE GROVE. THOSE TWO ORANGE GROVE RANCH AND WE ARE NOT SUFFERING ANY CONTAGIOUS WETLANDS. THOSE WETLANDS WILL CONTINUE TO FLOW AND THOSE SAME LOCATIONS WILL BE NO SEVERANCE OF ANY OF THE WETLANDS. OBVIOUSLY COMMISSIONER DEAN KNOWS THAT WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS VERY STRICT ABOUT MAINTAINING PRE-VERSUS POST DEVELOPMENT. THE PREDEVELOPMENT CONDITION FLOW HAS TO MIRROR THE POST DEVELOPMENT FLOW. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL JUST LIKE ALL THE DEVELPMENTS THAT YOU SEE THEIR SERPENTINE NATURE THEY ARE MINIMIZING WETLANDS AND MAXIMIZING PEOPLE.

WOMEN WORKING WITH THE SAME CHALLENGE WITH WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM STARTED THIS PROJECT.

WE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR AND REVIEWED ABOUT 30 PERCENT OF THE WETLANDS AND WE ARE ACTUALLY SCHEDULED ON TUESDAY TO BEGIN REVIEWS ON THE REMAINING PORTION SO WE DELINEATED THE WETLANDS WE GPS AND BACK TO THEM AND REVIEWED ABOUT 30 PERCENT OF THAT AND REVIEWED THE REMINDER. SO WE DO KNOW WHERE IT IS AND WE KNOW HOW CONCEPTUALLY WHERE WE ARE GOING TO DO THE DESIGNS AND THEREFORE I CAN CONFIDENTLY ANSWER WEARE NOT SEVERING , ISOLATING AND HE WETLANDS. THE THING I COVERED IT FLOWS TO THE NORTH TO KENTUCKY RANCH IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT WATER MANAGEMENT BASIN DISTRICT TO THE NORTH ITS DRAINAGE BASIN FOR AND TO THE SOUTHEAST DRAINAGE BASIN EIGHT.

THAT'S HOW THE DRAINAGE LOOKS AND IS DIVIDED ON HIS PROPERTY. I THINK THAT'S IT IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH, SURE.

>> SITTING IN THIS CHAIR FOR TWO AND HALF YEARS AND I'M NO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT BUT FOR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WETLANDS VERSUS LOW-QUALITY WETLANDS AND WHEN HE ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.

>> WE USED TO USE THOSE TERMS HIGH, MEDIUM AND LOW. IT STILL COULD BE APPLICABLE IT

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WAS ACTUALLY IN THE WATER MANAGEMENT HANDBOOK HI, MEDIUM AND LOW AS RELATED TO RATIO TO PRE-2004. TODAY, FEBRUARY 2004 AND CURRENT WE USE YOU MA'AM WHICH STANDS FOR UNIFIED METHODOLOGY MANAGEMENT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HIGH IT'S A 7-10 IS HIGHLY AND 4-7 IS MEDIUM AND BELOW THAT WOULD BE LOW.

THERE'S A MYRIAD OF WETLANDS ON THIS PROPERTY IS REALLY HIGH QUALITY WETLANDS ON THIS PROPERTY PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH PORTION WHERE THAT'S A LOT OF OUR PRESERVATION AS WE MENTIONED THREE-FOR 400 ACRES OF PRESENTATION THAT'S WERE A LOT OF PRESERVATION.

THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT SECTION WE ARE PRESERVING WE PARE NOT PROPOSING ANY IMPACT O THE HIGH QUALITY. AS YOU GO NORTH TO GREENBRIER IT BECOMES A LOT OF PLANTATION IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A LOWER YOU MA'AM SCORE. IT IS SUBJECT TO SIMPLE CULTURE ABOUT 100+ YEARS THE STITCHING AND DRAINING OBVIOUSLY IN THOSE AREAS AND SHOWS THE OLD DIG FOR THE ROADWAYS. THOSE DITCHES ARE DESIGNED TO BRING PROPERTIES.

SO THOSE ARE SOME WET PLANTATIONS AREAS THAT ARE LOW-QUALITY AS YOU GET FURTHER TOWARDS GREENBRIER.

>> 300 ACRES THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED THOSE ARE THE RANGE AND 7-10 TO YOU MA'AM? GREENBRIER ROAD IS 4-0?

>> YES.

>> I ALWAYS SEE THESE COMMERCIALS ON TV ABOUT WATER AND SOME BASE BEING CONTAMINATED AND COME BACK AND SUE AND THE LAST WAS ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO.

SINCE YOU'RE DONE WITH THE ENVIRONMENT THE RANGE AND TALKING ABOUT OTHER MILITARY USES HOW DOES THAT DOES THAT AFFECT THAT WATER AND PEOPLE LIVING THERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO ALL THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SUED 30 YEARS FROM NOW BECAUSE OF CONTAMINATION FROM IT?

>> I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THAT TOPIC IS MORE GEOLOGY BUT I DO KNOW MAYBE WE CAN PROVIDE THIS DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT ALL PROTECTIONS ON THE CLEANUP OF THIS PROPERTY.

I CAN'T THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY MY EXPERTISE WITH THIS APPROVAL LETTER OF WHATEVER ORDINANCE WAS ON THE PROPERTY. SO, SIR.

>> MR. DUDLEY HAS A MYRIAD OF INFORMATION BECAUSE THEIR SITE I WILL SUMMARIZE BEEN COMPLETELY CLEANED UP AND ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP RECEIVED I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE TARGET WAS NOT EVEN ON THIS PROPERTY BUT YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENSIVE AREA.

THE PROPERTY WAS CLEARED, CLEANED AND TIMBERED OVERTIME AND USIG TECHNOLOGY FROM 1916 THROUGH 2016 THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.THERE BEEN REPORTS ON THE ORDINANCE IT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP FROM THE SITE AND HERE'S THE CLEARANCE LETTER.

>> OKAY TWO MORE POINTS.

>> CAN ENTER FOR JUST A MOMENT? FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA AFTER WE DO THIS AGENDA ITEM WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT AND WILL TAKE A LUNCH BREAK SO ITEMS TWO THROUGH SEVEN WILL DO THOSE ITEMS AFTER OUR LUNCH BREAK SO JUST A HEADS UP.

>> I APOLOGIZE. TWO MORE POINTS. THERE WAS A LADY WHO MENTIONED FOX HUNT AND RESTATED THIS IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETING AND WE WILL SAY IT AGAIN THERE'LL BE NO CONNECTION TO ANY COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT AND FOX HUNT WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.

AND ALSO, TO WRAP IT UP WE RESPECT TO REQUEST THAT TODAY IS FOR YOU TO DETERMINE BECAUSE AGAIN WE ARE ASKING FOR RESIDENTIAL B IN AN AREA COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL B AND PLEASE TRANSMIT THIS LARGE-SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO AN AGE RESTRICTED PROJECT TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT, I'M SORR , THE STATE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REMAINING.

>> THANK YOU MS. AVERY SMITH. WATCHES?

>> SORRY, SORRY ONE MORE. SLIDE 23, REAL QUICK. IT'S LIKE SECOND TO LAST.

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IT'S THE TIMELINE. ONE MORE. IS THAT DIFFERENT? THERE IS TWO HOUSES THERE ARE BUILDINGS WITH HOUSES ON ESPECIALLY ONE ON THAT ONE.

THIS ONE IT SHOWS A HOUSE BEING BUILT IN2025 . IS THAT FOR THE KIDS THE ONE WHERE KIDS GET TO LIFT FOR THE ADULT COMMUNITY? THIS WAS IN MY POCKET.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> BECAUSE IF THE OTHER ONE IS BEING BUILT FIRST THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO AFFECT INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> THAT WAS THE TIMELINE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR COMMUNITY MEETING THAT HOUSE IS CHILLED THERE.

>> IS IN YOURS AND IN YOUR SLIDE.

>> THE NORTHWEST COMMUNITY MEETING AND THAT IS THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION ON HOUSING WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE TIMELINE HERE FOR 2026 IS THE FIRST HOUSE YOU SEE.

>> IT SAYS THE SAME THING HERE FOR 25 IS AT THE LANDINGS WITH GREENBRIER?

>> THAT'S THE COMMENCEMENT.

>> THE MEETING SAID THE OTHER WAS STARTING FIRST.

>> THAT'S THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE TIMELINE WHAT WE HAVE HERE WE DID MORE RESEARCH ON THE TIMELINE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WILL BE AND WE UPDATED THIS TIMELINE FOR THE RECORD IN 2026 IS 22 THE FIRST OCCUPANCY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> MR. SMITH, I THINK THAT FOR FROM MY STANDPOINT I THINK YOU HAVE CERTAINLY MADE A VERY COGENT, WELL EXPLAINED ARGUMENT FOR ACCOUNTABILITY BASED ON MY EXPENSE IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS REALLY A PARCEL SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL B AND YOUR PROPOSING RESIDENTIAL B.

AT THE END OF THE DAY YOUR PROPOSAL IS LOOKING AT TWO UNITS PER ACRE, ON ALL THE EXISTING PROPERTIES, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THAT MEETS MY COMPATIBILITY WHICH IS WHAT I LOOK AT HIS CREDIBILITY.

COMBAT ABILITY. LET'S TURN OUR ATTENTION TO INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE I FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO ABOUT SERVING BISCUITS YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. THAT'S WHAT WE SAY IN THE SOUTH. YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN OUT OF ONE FIRST.

LOOKING AT LET'S LOOK AT RHODES. I THINK THAT THIS TIMELINE IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CLIENT HAS DONE AN ADMIRABLE JOB BUT WHAT IS CLEARLY A TRANSPORTATION TRAFFIC ISSUE ALMOST ANYWHERE ON THE NORTH HALF OF THE COUNTY WE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE ROAD, WELL, YEAH I CAN TAKE A PORTION OF 210 OR CAN TALK ABOUT 16 I CAN TALK ABOUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION. AROUND THE COUNTY. I THINK THE APPLICANT IS DOING ALL THEY CAN DO WITH RESPECT WITH WHAT'S NEEDED TO MAKE THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS. I GUESS THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK YOU BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOLS FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE I THINK YOU PUT UP AN OVERHEAD OR SLIDE IN THE REPORT SHOWING I THINK THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE K-8 SCHOOLS THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE TIME HE WAS FORECLOSING ON HOMES IN 2026.

>> YES, SIR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN HERE THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN PINK ARE THE THREE THOUGH BE CONSTRUCTED CLEARWATER IN BEACON LAKE ARE OPEN IN THE FALL OR AUGUST 2024. AND RIVERTOWN OPENS IN 2025.

>> THEY ARE ALL K-8? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL. YOUR PROPOSING TO START SELLING HOMES AND 26 HOW DOES IT UNDERMINE THE SYRUP AND BISCUIT ANALOGY THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS

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BEEN AVAILABLE FOR THE CHILDREN?

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT HIGH SCHOOLS. WE HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL OPENED IN THE SCHOOL OPEN SO PROBABLY LASTED 3 TO 4 YEARS YOU SEE ON THIS MAP IN THIS AREA IS OVERLY HIGH SCHOOL. SO THERE IS ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL SITE RIGHT HERE AND THERE ARE OTHER SCHOOL SITES IN SILVERLEAF AND GREENBRIER HILO IN ELEMENTARY ALL OF THESE AND OTHER ELEMENTARY AND ELEMENT TO SCHOOL EMBEDDED IN THIS PROJECT ALTHOUGH SCHOOL SITES ARE STILL AVAILABLE. THEY ARE OWNED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SCHOOLS CAN BE CONSTRUCTED ON THEM WHEN SCHOOLS ARE NEEDED.

>> DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS YOU ARE AWARE OF? ON THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS.

>> NOT FOR THE SILVERLEAF HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE AGAIN THEY ARE BUILDING TO BRAND-NEW HIGH SCHOOL THE LAST FEW YEARS. YOU KNOW THAT TO QUIET BEACH THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT JUST OPENED.

>> CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU, MS. AVERY SMITH, WE SPENT SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OVERTIME TALK ABOUT CONCERNS I HAVE IN YOUR RESPONSE. I AM THE CLASS OF 2000, FROM THESE HIGH SCHOOLS, IT IS POVERCAPACITY. THERE HAVE CLASSES IN PORTABLES.

BACK IN 2000 THE PROVISION COUNTY WAS 110,000. I ATTENDED A SCHOOL IN A NEON COUNTY WITH MY FAMILY THAT HIGH SCHOOL WAS AT CAPACITY AND I DID SOME OF MY CLASSES IN PORTABLES. YOU DISCUSSED WITH ME YESTERDAY THERE'S A STATE PROHIBITION OF OPENING NEW SCHOOLS UNLESS SCHOOLS ARE OVER CAN EXPEND THAT MAKES I THINK THAT'S A SOURCE OFFRUSTRATION ? THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND HAVING CHILDREN AND WATCHING IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING CAN EXPEND WHAT THAT IS?

>> THE IDEA IS LITERALLY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WILL NOT ALLOW THE SCHOOL BOARD TO BUILD I WILL COLLATE (NAME?) SCHOOL. THEY WAIT UNTIL THE SCHOOL IN THE AREA ARE OVERCAPACITY BEFORE THEY WILL ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SCHOOL.

THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE WE ARE RUNNING INTO RED IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SCHOOL BOARD REALLY CAN TAKE THE 9 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND A PROPORTIONATE SHARE FROM THE NON-AGE RESTRICTED PROJECT AND THE PUT IN A BANK ACCOUNT SO WHEN SCHOOLS ARE OVERCAPACITY THEY ARE TRIGGERED IF YOU WILL FOR LACK OF A BETTER SOPHISTICATE WAY TO PUT IT IF ONCE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL THEY HAVE THE FUNDS IN RESERVE FROM A PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND OTHER REVENUE STREAMS TO BUILD MORE FOR STUDENTS.

>> THAT'S A BAD POLICY IN MY MIND. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT PROBABLY BECAUSE I'M NOT LOOKED AT IT I JUST DON'T LIKE IT.

>> IT'S THE SAME THING FOR HIGHWAYS, I BELIEVE. THEY WERE TO THE SIGNIFICANT OVERCAPACITY LIKE I-95 BEFORE THEY WILL ATHLETES. THAT'S THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS.

>> I WILL STOP YOU THERE I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I THOUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE MADE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND HAD VALID CONCERNS AND IMPORTANT CONCERN .

MS. TREY SPOKE AND I LIKE HER A LOT SHE I THINK ARE HARD TO A GOOD PLACE.

THE TEST APPROVAL TYPE OF THING AND DON'T NECESSARILY -- I THINK THAT IN TRANSMITTING THIS TO THE STATE GIVES US ANOTHER TWO MONTHS TO GET THE DETAILS AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT THE IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT WE STILL HAVE TWO MONTHS TO HAVE DISCUSSION.

SO I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A FINE JOB TO GET TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE THAT MIGHT MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TRANSMITTAL OF COMPLINE 2022-06 FOR THE ACTIVE ADULT IN FACT THAT PROVIDED THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND.

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>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

[Public Comment (Part 1 of 2)]

TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WE WILL VOTE VOTE BY VOICE STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER DEAN

>> YES BOX I AM A YES, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD

>> NO >> THIS WAY FOR ADOPTION A COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR RIGID, NOT AGENDA ITEMS, AGENDA ITEMS LATER IN THE DAY I ASK YOU HOLD YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> AT THIS POINT THE BOARD WITH YOUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY PERSON WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PUTTING IN STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS EACH PERSONALLY PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK SHOW

>> WITH ROBERT'S RULES OF DECORUM. COMMENTS BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AND NOT AN INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER MAY NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL AND PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SURE REFRAIN FROM ANY DENIGRATION OR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY THE COMMENTS I WOULD ASK A SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS MATERIAL PLEASE HANDLE THE MATERIAL TO THE INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE RECORD.

>> BEFORE YOU BEGIN IS TO WEAR HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 30 MINUTES THAT MEANS FIVE FROM COLUMN A, FIVE FROM COLUMN B AND WERE HEADED TO LUNCH. IF ANYONE IN THE FIRST FIVE PEOPLE TO SPEAK I LOVE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU WILL PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH I WAS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER WE CAN ONLY HEAR 10 PEOPLE AT THIS TIME IN THE NAVY SO IT'S 11:52 AM WE WILL TAKE A BREAK AT 12:22 PM.

>> GOOD DAY, COMMISSIONER'S NAME IS JULIET I LIVE AT 330 NOTICING OUR PRESIDENT OF ROXBURY FARMS AND ALSO HOA PRESIDENT AND THE HOMEOWNER BUT IN GENERAL.

I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO POLICE THE UNREASONABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN MAINTENANCE IS PLACED ON US. OURSELVES A NEW 182 HOME COMMUNITY AND SO TO AN US ONE.

I MET WITH EACH COMMISSIONER EVENTUALLY VILLAGES TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY.

WE ACQUIRED OLD INSURANCE FOR PROPERTY WE DON'T RAISE LYONS. WE ARE ALSO UNABLE TO GET LIABILITY INSURANCE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT WHICH THE COUNTY STAFF STATED IN ORDER TO OBTAIN INSURANCE. WE ARE MEASURING GET LIABILITY INSURANCE AT THIS TIME EVEN IF WE DO SIGN THIS AGREEMENT. OUR HOA LEGAL COUNSEL MICHAEL MCCABE SAID THE COUNTY REQUEST FOR LEASE AGREEMENT ON APRIL 28.

TO BE IS TO SEE THE TYPE OF DOCUMENT FOR US TO EVEN REVIEW PRIOR TO SIGNING.

PLEASE CLOS THE COUNTY PARK UNTIL THIS ISSUE GETS RESOLVED. THE HOA HAS NO EXPERIENCE OR BACKGROUND AND PARK MANAGEMENT WE ARE NOT GOVERNMENTAL OR EVEN QUASI GOVERNMENTAL TEAM AS SUCH CANNOT BE EXPECTED TO FULFILL THE COUNTY'S ROLE TO PAY TWICE FOR THAT ROLE.

THAT IS ONCE VIA TAXES AND TWICE BY OUR HOA DUES THAT GO TOWARD COUNTY PARK MAINTENANCE.

PERSON WRECK ON THE OTHER HAND IS FUNDED BY TAXPAYERS LIKE ME TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION AND EXPERTISE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES ON COUNTY LAND. THE SUNDAY BEFORE LAST A RESIDENT AND NOTIFIED THE BOARD THAT A PIECE OF THE FLAGRANT EQUIVALENT WAS BROKEN WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL FOR REPORTING THIS? WHAT RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE THE HOA NOW SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW? WE DON'T KNOW NOR SHOULD WE BE EXPECTED TO KNOW IS WE ARE NOT EMPLOYEES OF PARKS AND REC.

TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE THE FLAGRANT EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER REFUSES TO RETURN OUR CALLS SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF EVEN GETTING A REPLACEMENT.

WE DO NOT HAVE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY BUT THE COUNTY DOES. OUR COMMUNITY IS EXPOSED RIGHT NOW AND THAT MAKES US THE TARGETS IN A NO FAULT OF HER OWN.

OUR STAFF HELD A PRIVATE FORUM WITH THE COMMISSIONER IN ATTENDANCE AT THE PARK CLOSE TO 100 RESIDENTS WERE THERE. FOR A SHOW OF HANDS IT WAS A UNANIMOUS DECISION THAT THEY WANT THE COUNTY TO TAKE BACK INTO THE PARK WHICH IT OWNS. COMMISSIONER ALAIMO CALLED ME YESTERDAY TO SAY HE DIRECTED COUNTY STAFF TO START PRESENTATION ON THIS TOPIC SO THAT IT MAY BE RECORDED ON THE AGENDA FOR COMMISSION MEETING ON JUNE 6. WE APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED SUPPORT FROM COMMISSIONER DEAN SORRY COMMISSIONER ALAIMO ON THIS MAJOR CONCERN. THANK YOU TO THE ENTIRE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE FOR HELPING OUR COMMUNITIES AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. IT'S GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER'S THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THIS IS MY NAME IS MICHELLE I RESIDE AT 109 KINGS COURT SAINT

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AUGUSTINE BEACH, FLORIDA. THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP TO MY COMMENTS AT THE LAST MEETING CONCERNING THE HOUSE OF REASON PRISM THAT ADVERTISES DRAGON CLASSES FOR MINORS AND VIEWING ON MAY 27 AT THEIR NEXT MEETING. I FOUND OUT THIS PAST WEEKEND AT THE FLORIDA QUARTERLY MEETING OF THE REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLY THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW MAKING TRAINING AND VIEWING BY MINORS OF DRAGON DANCING LESSONS IS NOW ILLEGAL. OKAY, THE GOVERNOR AS I UNDERSTAND IT HAS ASSIGNED LET LEGISLATION. I TRIED CONTACTING TRAVIS HUDSON'S OFFICE AND I SENT HIM AN EMAIL AND HE HAS NOT RESPONDED YET BECAUSE I THINK HE IS PROBABLY TAKING A BREAK FROM BEING IN SESSION BUT I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU ADVISE THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS TO GET A COPY OF THAT LEGISLATION , WORK WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE HOUSE OF PRISM TO MAKE CERTAIN THEY KNOW THAT EFFECTIVE NOW THIS TYPE OF VIEWING BY MINORS AND CLASSES FOR MINORS CONCERNING DRAG MASTER DRAG CLASSES IS ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP REPORT ON WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S ACTION IS ON THIS WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATIONS SUBMITTED SO YOU THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF THAT. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MORNING ANYMORE. HELLO, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLAH MEDIA WILL NEED TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS JESSICA, TRACY BRANCH 252 STONE COURT. I'M THE COMMITTEE OF ROCK SPRINGS FARMS. JULIET WHO SPOKE WHO SPEAKS VERY WELL ABOUT THIS I AM NOT SURE AT WHAT POINT YOU HAVE THE HISTORY BUT HE GOES BACK TO AN ORDINANCE AND THEN IT WENT TO THE RESOLUTION.

THE ORDINANCE IS WITHIN FOR OUR DEVELOPER THE DEVELOPER NOT MINE TO GET 202 DENSITY HE WON A HIGHER DENSITY IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT THE COUNTY GOT THE PARK.A DEEDED PARK DON'T OWN IT. WE CANNOT ENSURE IT. WE HAVE NO SAY SO ON WHAT GOES ON THERE, WHO COMES ON THE PROPERTY INSU SPOKE TO WAS ABLE TO GET THREE INSURANCE COMPANIES TO TAKE OVER NO ONE WILL TOUCH IT. WHICH MAKES US BREACH OF CONTRACT. I AM STRONGLY ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE CLOSE THE PARK UNTIL THIS IS EITHER RESOLVED BY RESOLUTION, AN ORDINANCE OR IN A COURT OF LAW.

I CONTACTED AND CONSULTED WITH THE ATTORNEY JUST BECAUSE THIS IS NOT HEARD OF IN ANY OTHER COUNTY, I'M SORRY, IN THIS COUNTY, ANY PART IS NOT MAINTAINED BY HOMEOWNERS.

WE PAID FOR THAT $20,000 PER YEAR THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR IT WAS EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT. IT WAS AN AGREEMENT HE MADE AND THE DEVELOPER LIVES AND GEORGIA AS WELL AS OUR ROCK SPRINGS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT WAS NOT TURNED OVER TO US YET.

SO, HE GOES BACK UP THERE AND WE ARE STUCK PAYING FOR THE PARK BECAUSE HE AGREED TO IT.

WE ARE NOT A RICH COMMUNITY. MAYBE, MAYBE UPPER-MIDDLE-CLASS.

WE ARE WIDOWS, RETIREES AND FAMILIES, STARTING THEIR FAMILIES.

IT IS DEFINITELY AN UNFAIR BURDEN THAT WE CANNOT EVEN DO ANOTHER AMENITY OUR AMENITY IS A POOL ABOUT THIS BIG AND WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ELSE IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME I HOPE I HIT ON ALL THE POINTS, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON 7280 COURT DEVELOPMENT AND MARSH LANDING. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY QUOTING MR. FLOWERS MEMO.

>> WAIT A MINUTE, THAT ITEM IS COMING UP RIGHT AFTER LUNCH. IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO WERE DOING THAT AFTER LUNCH THIS IS ONLY FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WE ARE TRYING TO GET

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THROUGH QUICKLY.

>> AND MILO TO COMMENT?

>> IT WILL BE DONE DURING THE ACTUAL ITEM THIS IS ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS STEVE LEVITT 282 MOTION JASPER DRIVE.

ME, WE IN OUR COMMUNITY NEED HELP WITH OUR COVENANTS WHICH YOU HAVE NOT HEARD.

I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL EXPEDITIOUSLY TO RELEASE THIS BURDEN ON US. I ASK THAT THE MAINTENANCE AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PARK BE COMPLETELY TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. NOT ONLY ARE WE BEING DOUBLE TAXED BUT MANY RESIDENTS HERE ESPECIALLY SENIORS LIKE MYSELF WHO ARE ON A FIXED INCOME AND SOME OF THE YOUNG FAMILIES CANNOT AFFORD ANY TYPE OF BIG ASSESSMENT.

WE COULD GET DRIVEN OUT OF OUR HOMES IF WE GET A LAWSUIT WHICH IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY THAT THE COUNTY DOES WE CANNOT GET INSURANCE.

SO WE WOULD GET ASSESSED DIRECTLY AND THAT COULD DRIVE MANY OF US OUT OF OUR HOMES.

THIS COULD ALSO CREATE A BIG MESS FOR THE COUNTY. BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING A PRIVATE ENTITY MANAGE AND MAINTAIN PUBLIC LAND. THAT COULD BE A BIG EXPOSURE LEGALLY FOR THE COUNTY. UNTIL THIS GETS RESOLVED WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO CLOSE THE PARK. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF COMMISSIONER ALAIMO AND HELPING US AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.

>> GOOD MORNING. WE ARE BILL AND SUE DWYER --. WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IN SEPTEMBER OF 21 AND LIVED IN APRIL 2022.E HAVE A FEW POINTS RELATED REPORT.

ONE, THE PARK MAINTENANCE, TO THE LIABILITY OF THE PARK, THE HOA/HOMEOWNER RESPONSIBLY.

IT WAS NEVER DISCLOSED TO US THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE PAYING THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK AT THE TIME OF THEPURCHASE . COMMISSIONER ALAIMO ATTENDED OUR LAST HOA MEETING LAST WEEK OF WHICH A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HOMEOWNERS WERE IN ATTENDANCE.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO HIS ATTENTION THAT NOT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WAS INFORMED OF THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE PARKS DISTRICT AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE.

THE BUILDERS FAILED TO EXPOSE THE PARK AGREEMENT. BECAUSE OF THIS PARK AGREEMENT WE ARE NOW BEING DOUBLE TAXED. THE LIABILITY OF THE PARK FALLS ON BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE HOMEOWNERS IF THERE IS INJURY IT WILL AFFECT ALL HOMEOWNERS AND WE COULD LOSE EVERYTHING.

WE AS HOMEOWNERS CANNOT PURCHASE LIABILITY INSURANCE ON THE PROPERTY WE DON'T OWN.

IT IS REQUESTED THAT THE PARK BE CLOSED UNTIL A RESOLUTION HAS BEEN DECIDED DUE TO OUR LIABILITY. BECAUSE WE ARE A SMALL COMMUNITY THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE PARK AND ALL WILL BANKRUPT US THE COST IS BEYOND THE CAPABILITY OF OUR SMALL COMMUNITY. LOOKING AT DISCLOSURE OF THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND LIABILITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS AND THE FINANCIAL DILEMMA IT IS HIGHLY DISTURBING TO ALL OF OUR HOMEOWNERS. MY LAST POINT I AM ASKING THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU WERE IN THE SAME DILEMMA IS US? WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ACCELERATED DECISION BY THE COMMISSIONERS THE COUNTY TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBLY FOR THE PARK AS THEY ARE THE THREE OF THE PARKS AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> COMMISSIONERS, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS AND I LIVE AND ROCK SPRINGS FARM AT 720 MOTION JASPER DRIVE. I WILL GO OFF SCRIPT HERE TO GIVE MORE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO TALK BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IT WAS GOING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID. WE ARE A SMALL 182 COMMUNITY WE WERE NOT TOLD WE BOUGHT THE HOUSES WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING A COUNTY PARK. IT IS A MAJOR PORTION FOR HOA DUES AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOT ONLY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RETIREES WHO ARE IN RETIREMENT WE EXPECT THIS TO BE OUR FOREVER HOME. WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO BE SUED IN THE FUTURE

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FOR SOMEONE GETTING HER IN THE PARK AND WERE BEING DOUBLE TAXED.

THE PARKING RECREATIONS TAXES WE ARE NOW OF COURSE ST. JOHN'S AND ALSO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PARK AS PART OF OUR HOA DUES. WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT THE BURDEN OF THIS MAINTENANCE PLACED ON IT MIGHT SMALL COMMUNITY BE TAKEN BACK BY THE COUNTY FOR THIS COUNTY PARK AND I'M REQUESTING THE TOPIC BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AND EXPORT OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING ON JUNE 6. FOLLOWING UP THE REQUEST SENT BY MY HOA THE PAST WEEK PPRIOR TO MAY 15 DEADLINE. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE AND I PREDICT THE SPORT THAT COMMISSIONER ALAIMO HAS GIVEN US WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. RANDY 496 OCEAN JASPER DRIVE. HERE TO SAY THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL. ALSO TO SAY THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER ALAIMO FOR HELPING WITH OUR MEETING LAST WEEK. LET ME TAKE THE PICTURE HERE WITH A STORY DAY AND A CLOUDS COMING AND BIG STORM PASTA WE WERE UNDER A PAVILION IN THE PARK. ANNA TRIED TO IMAGINE A 20 BY 20 PAVILION WITH100 PEOPLE .

IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION WE PLEARNED A LOT. I WAS STILL AND AM STILL CAUSALLY SURPRISED THAT ABSOLUTELY NO ONE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARK MAINTENANCE DURING THE SALE OF THE CONTRACT. SOME PEOPLE SAID I BOUGHT MY HOME BEFORE THAT MAINTENANCE COVENANT WAS EVEN SITE SO THEY SENT THEIR CONTRACTS MAINTENANCE COVENANT WAS SIGNED AFTERWARDS. SO HOW CAN THEY BE RESPONSIBLE THESE 10 FAMILIES WERE IN THE SUBDIVISION BEFORE THE COVENANTS WAS SIGNED.

SO NO ONE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND I MEAN IT'S SURPRISING IT'S SO SHOCKING TO ME JUST TODAY WITH THIS WHOLE OTHER THING THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AND ALL THE DISCUSSIONS AND EVERYTHING AND NOBODY EVER SAID ANYTHING. SO, WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. IT WILL COME UP HOPEFULLY ON YOUR JUNE 6 MEETING TO GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION WE ARE STRUNG OUT ON THE LIABILITY ISSUE.

WE CAN PAY FOR THE INSURANCE. WE HAVE BEEN WAITING TO SEE THE LEASE AGREEMENT FROM THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN IT WE ARE NOT SURE THESE COMPANIES WILL ACCEPT IT AS PROOF THEY NEED TO ENSURE OF HIS PROPERTY WE DON'T OWN. YOU HAVE HEARD SOME OF THESE COMMENTS PUT PADLOCKS ON THE DOORS, SHUT DOWN THE BAR, ALL SORTS OF OTHER THINGS BECAUSE OF FEAR THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO FALL OFF THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT OR WHETHER THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE. SO WE DO NEED YOUR HELP.

WE APPRECIATE YOU HEARING THAT IN YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. BUT AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> MS. CROSBY,-- I WILL DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT EXCEPT THE PART THAT IS A GOOD SUBJECT, OF COURSE. THE REASON THE LOGO LOOKS A LITTLE DOGEARED IS BECAUSE OF INSURING IT TOO MUCH OF PEOPLE ON THE BEACH TO SEE IF THEY HAD SOME ISSUES I HAVE WITH IT.

I'M STARTING TO BE CRITICAL BECAUSE I LOVE THE IDEA OF A LOGO I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA BUT THE ADVERTISING PERSON HAS TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW.

I DO HAVE YEARS OF YEARS OF EXPRESS AND ADVERTISING OF AN ADVERTISING DEGREE I TAUGHT ADVERTISING AT THE SCHOOL OF VISUAL ARTS. AFTER LOOK AT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE. THERE ARE FOUR SYMBOLS HERE. EVERYBODY SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THREE OF THEM ARE BUT THE FOURTH ONE AND MY POLE I DID NOBODY KNEW WHAT IT WAS.

EOPLE WOULD EITHER SAY I DON'T KNOW OR THEY WOULD GUESS A TURTLE ORA FLAG OR THE SUN , THEY DID NOT GET IT. AS AN EFFECTIVE PIECE OF COMMUNICATION IT FALLS SHORT THAT WAY ON THE SIMPLE. MY OTHER ISSUE WITH IT IS THE TAGLINE FLORIDA AT FIRST SIGHT.

I REALLY, REALLY DID NOT GET THAT. I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR DAYS, ACTUALLY AND FINALLY MY HUSBAND GOT IT. HE HAD TO MAN EXPLAIN IT TO ME THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PONCE DE LEON. I EVERY TIME I GO TO THE BEACH AT THE BEACH WE ATTEND A LOT I STILL DO NOT GET FLORIDA AT FIRST SIGHT.

SO IF I DON'T GET IT AND I BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 10 YEARS HOW IS SOMEONE FROM KANSAS GOING TO

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GET IT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR TOURISM OR WHAT.

I ASSUME FOR TOURISM. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE BEFORE IT IS PAINTED ON THE SIDES OF VEHICLES AND BUILDINGS BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD BE IMPROVED .

I MEAN, I JUST BROKE IT ONLINE THIS IS THE KIND OF ALIGNMENT THINK YOU WOULD GET YOU GOING MAYBE TO A MAJOR AD AGENCY IN A MAJOR CITY. ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE BEACHES YOU WANT DESTINATION ADVERTISING I THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO GO THE THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING ABOUT IT THAT BRINGS YOU THERE. THIS LINE IS SORT OF AS A REFERENCE TO 1821 THERE'S KIND OF A HINT AT CULTURE AND HISTORY BUT IS JUST REALLY A TINY HINT. I AM HERE TO JUST SUGGEST THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER MAYBE AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE LOGO IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN I COULD HAVE A VERY SEASONED ART DIRECTOR DESIGN SOMETHING PROBABLY EVEN PRO BONO I WILL NOT ASK ANYONE TO WORK ON IT IF THERE'S NO INTEREST IN IT. I WANTED TO RAISE MY CONCERNS ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD BE SO MUCH BETTER I DON'T THINK THE LOGO IS AS GREAT AS THIS COUNTY IS.

>> THINK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MS. CROSBY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DOUG: THE 97 ON SPRINGS FARM. I WILL REFER TO THIS AS FAR AS F FROM NOW ON.

I'M HERE TO TALK WITH COUNTERPART DISLOCATED OUTSIDE OF OUR STUFF.

OUR COMMUNITY OF 182 I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THIS BUT WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED.

LIABILITY IS JUST A HUGE CLOUD HANGING OVER US. WE ARE NOT IN THE PARK BUSINESS AT ALL WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAINTAIN A PARK. I'M A RETIRED NAVAL GUY PARKS ARE NOT MY WORLD AT ALL. AND NONE OF US WERE TOLD THIS WHEN BUYING IT IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR THIS. THINK ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS WOULD BE IN THE SAME SITUATION. IT'S NOT PRETTY. I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU GUYS PUT ON THE AGENDA AND WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP I APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> DOCTOR ELIZABETH SUNDAY FOR OCEAN DRIVE. I HAVE BEEN AN ACTIVE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FOR 19 YEARS. ORGANIZATIONS.

IN THE LAST TWO YEARS BOTH MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY WITH FOOD DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE COUNTY FREE FOOD AND ALSO TEACHING UNDERPRIVILEGED YOUTH HOW TO COOK A MEAL AND TAKE IT HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES. SO I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE A VOICE TO THE FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES CANNOT AFFORD THE ESSENTIALS FOR DAILY LIVING. THE MOST CURRENT DATA FROM THAT AS OF THIS REPORT THAT ASSET LIMITED AND CONSTRAINED AND EMPLOYED BUT UNABLE TO MAKE THE BASIC COST OF LIVING FOR A COMMUNITY COMPILED BY WHAT THEY WAY NATIONALLY EVERY YEAR --.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS 34,622 HOUSEHOLDS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE ALICE REPORTS.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S ANOTHER 6500 HOUSEHOLDS THAT FALL BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.

THAT MEANS THERE ARE 41,000 HOUSEHOLDS OUR NEIGHBORS AND FAMILIES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO AFFORD THE ESSENTIALS FOR HOUSEHOLD SURVIVAL BUDGET.

THAT HOUSEHOLD SURVIVAL BUDGET THE RENT IS CONSIDERED $810 SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THAT UNICORN IS AN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THAT MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE FROM ELECTRICITY FROM THE FOOD BUDGET AND OTHER BUDGETS. THAT MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS YOUR FRIENDS AND MY NEIGHBORS ARE NOT GETTING FED.

FREE FOOD DISTRIBUTION HELPS WITH THOSE NEEDS. PLEASE CONSIDER LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE GROWING NEEDS OF THIS POPULATION AND HOW THE NONPROFITS CAN HELP.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> MY NAME IS JAMES SANDER 11 950 OCEAN JASPER DRIVE IN ROCK SPRINGS.

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AMONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH COMMITTEE SO I GET ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LOT.

WRITING TO THE PARK ON A BIKE AND STUFF. I MADE A LITTLE SURVEY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE PARK AND THERE'S A LARGE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE COMING FROM OUTSIDE OUR DEVELOPMENT THE PARK IS LOCATED RIGHT ON U.S. ONE AS YOU ENTER OUR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GATED WAS WORKING IN THE PAST I'VE SEEN MOTORHOMES PARKED THERE IN ABOUT 10 PEOPLE USING THE FACILITIES NONRESIDENTS. I ALSO SAW A TRACTOR TRAILER PARK THERE ONE DAY ME I MADE TWO OR THREE CIRCLES AROUND THE PARK TO CHECK TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

HE GOES TO THE BATHROOM AND WAS IN THE PROBABLY 20 MINUTES AND COMES OUT WITH HIS TOILETRY KIT WITH HI HAIR SLICKED DOWN AND GETS BACK IN HIS TRACTOR-TRAILER AND LEAVES.

SO THE PARK IS OPEN TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER PARK IN THE AREA THAT IS USED BY ANYBODY ELSE I KNOW OF SO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY ARE COMING IN TO THE PARK AND USING IT. I AM AMAZED AT THE FACT THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE PARK IS USED BY THE COMMUNITY.

I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION SEES FIT TO TAKE THAT RESPONSIBLY AWAY.

MANY OF THE RESIDENTS INCLUDE MY NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES ARE RETIRED AND LIVE ON FIXED INCOMES AS I AM. WE HOPE YOU WOULD TAKE THAT BURDEN AWAY FROM US THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> HELLO, AGAIN, PERSEVERANCE FOR MY CASE, GOOD MORNING, AFTERNOON.

CARRIE 92 AMELIA BEACH TRAIL TOLD YOU, NINE YEAR RESIDENT. OUR SCHOOLS ARE DECLINING OUR SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN TEACHERS INITIATE VACANCIES BECAME A REAL PROBLEM AND OCTOBER 2022 I LEARNED TO TEACHERS LEAVING IT NICE DUE TO MONEY IN OCTOBER AND DID A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT THERE WERE 79 VACANCIES AND CLASSROOMS WITH NO TEACHER. I STARTED A GROUP CALLED SAVE OUR SCHOOLS SOS ST. JOHN'S BACK THEN WE CURRENTLY HAVE 3500 MEMBERS THAT ARE CONCERNED. WE WORK TOGETHER TIRELESSLY TO ASK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PAY OUR TEACHERS BY ANY METRIC THEY WERE IN THE LOWEST HALF.

FINALLY, LAST WEEK AFTER HAVING A MAGISTRATE EATING AND GOING TO ALL THESE MEETINGS IT LOOKS LIKE THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO PAY THE TEACHERS WHICH WILL HELP.

HIS FINDINGS WERE RELEASED 5-4-23 HE STATED THE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD, SUPPLY, MAINTAIN, TRANSPORT STAFF TO ALL THE SCHOOLS IN ORDER TO GIVE THE TEACHERS THIS MUCH-NEEDED RACE THE FUND BALANCE WILL HAVE TO GO DOWN TO 62 PERCENT OF WHAT IS RECOMMENDED. ON PAGE 13 HE SAYS WE WILL NEED TO MAKE CUTS SOON.

OKAY, I WILL GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE FINDINGS IF YOU WILL TAKE THEM.

MOST OF THE BIG DISTRICTS LIKE OURS HAVE MILLAGE TO PAY TEACHERS BUT ST. JOHN'S DOESN'T. IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE PUT ON THE 2024 BALLOT BUT THE RENEWAL OF SALES TAX TO BUILD SCHOOLS SO THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO GET PAST TO TAXES AND I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW HOW HARD IS IS TO GET ONE PASSED.

IN THE MEANTIME, THERE ARE KIDS WITH NO TEACHERS SITTING AND AUDITORIUMS AND MEDIA CENTERS FOR CLASSROOMS REALLY BEING SUPERVISED.Y OWN KIDS HAVING TWO--STUDENTS REACH GET TAUGHT IN HIGH SCHOOL SO THEY CAN GET SAT PARKS SO THEY CAN GET INTO SCHOOLS THAT ARE SO DIFFICULT TO GET INTO EVEN FSU AND UF YOU HAVE 1400 AND SAT'S. IT IS PREDICTED WHEN THE DISTRICT IS CALCULATED NEXT YEAR THE COMPILATION THIS YEAR WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUR NUMBER ONE STATUS THIS SHOULD CONCERN EVERY PERSON IN THIS ROOM THAT EVER BOOMING HOUSING IS BRINGING TOOMANY STUDENTS TO QUICKLY . WE NEED THE COMMISSIONERS TO STOP TRANSMITTING APPROVALS. WE DID THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO STOP ACCEPTING THE CONCURRENCY AND THE LAND. WE MENTIONED THE TO QUIET BEACH SIDE BEING OPEN IS THE FIRST YEAR HAVING SENIORS THE ARMY HAVING 16 OF PORTABLES COMING NEXT YEAR.

PORTABLES ARE GOING THROUGH 552 633 RESIGNATIONS WENT UP 30 PERCENT THIS MAY OR LAST NIGHT WE NEED HELP AND TALLAHASSEE AND HERE.

>> SHERRY BADGER 2772 SOUTH LAWN AVENUE. I KNOW THIS IS LIKE A BROKEN RECORD BUT FOR 35, 530 IN THE MORNING THE BEEPING AND THE TRAFFIC INSIDE THE TRASH TRUTH

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THERE NUMBER ONE IS A SIGN RIGHT HERE THAT SAYS NO TRUCKS. THIS FALLS ON DEAF EARS IN THE COUNTY, CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT WAS TOLD TO ME THAT EVEN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS THINKING ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING UP THERE BUT THAT FELL ON DEAF EARS, TOO.

THIS TRUCK WAS BEEPING BACKING UP IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SLAMMING A TRASH TRUCK AT 4:30 AM 530 A.M. IN THE MORNING TAUNTING RESIDENTS THE SAME THINGS WITH SOME EYES BACKING UP. CAN YOU ALL PLEASE HELP, THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> THANK YOU, MS. BADGER. ONE MORE. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> MY NAME IS BILL HENNESSEY 6461 --. THIS WAS ABOUT BUTLER WEST I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY ANYTHING HERE? ARE YOU ALL JUST INTERESTED IN THE ONE ON THE LANDING?

>> YES, SIR, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU WANT.

>> WHERE THE ROAD SHRINKS DOWN THERE WHERE YOU PULL IN A GOES TO 26 BE THERE AT THE DOLLAR GENERAL. WITH THE BIG CULVERT IS A REAL HAZARD.

THIS DESIGN THEY HAVE HERE IS JIMMY ALL THE ODORS HERE TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER WHICH CREATES ALL THE CONGESTION AND IF YOU NOTICE RIGHT HERE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE I DON'T THINK ANYONE NOTICED YOU HAVE ABOUT 180 FEET OF UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW OF THE INTERCOASTAL.

IF YOU PUT A DECK OUT THERE AND YOU HAVE BIRD WATCHERS AND WATCH THE SUNSET AND TAKE PICTURES. THERE ARE SUBARUS AND PREVIOUS THAT HAVE TRAILERS AND THEY PREVENT THE FISHERMEN FROM THE SUNSET BOAT GOING DOWN. AND EVEN OVER HERE ON THIS OTHER CORNER THE SOUTHEAST CORNER PUT A COUPLE FISHING DOCKS DOWN THERE TO NOT HAVING THE FISHERMEN FIGHTING WITH THE BOATERS COULD HAVE TWO MORE DOCS OUT THERE THERE'S GOING TO BE CONTROVERSY ABOUT OKAY I GOT YOUR FIRST THERE'S A BOAT RAMP BUT YOU CAN'T SEND ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE INTO ONE LITTLE AREA IF YOU CANNOT SEPARATE THEM BIRD WATCHERS HAVE BINOCULAR'S AND CAMERAS SO EVERYTHING THE CARE IS STRAPPED AROUND THEIR NECK THEY DON'T TOE ANYTHING YOU DON'T NEED A BUNCH OF SPACE. WHERE YOU LAUNCH YOUR BOAT PUT SOME SIGNS THAT SAY BOAT TRAILERS ONLY. PEOPLE ARE PULLING UP THERE WITH LITTLE CARS. MOMS ARE FEEDING THEIR HUSBANDS AND KIDS IF THE PARTS AWAY FROM THE RAMP THINGS WOULD GO SMOOTHER. BUT SOME SIGNS OVER HERE ON THIS SITE. AWAY FROM THE RAMP THAT SAYS LOADING AND UNLOADING SO EVERYBODY PULLS HER BOAT OUT, GET OUT, MOVES THEIR COOLERS AND UMBRELLAS SO OTHER PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET IN. IF YOU HAVE SOME SIGNS, MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO.

BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME SIGNS DOWN THERE IT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE THINK SOME COMMON SENSE SOME BOATING ETIQUETTE HAVE SOMEONE THERE ON THE WEEKENDS FROM SEVEN IN THE MORNING UNTIL NOON AND SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE PART OF YOUR AFTER A WHILE PEOPLE WILL START TO FIGURE OUT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT'S WHAT I WILL DO. THE WAY IT IS NOW THEY'RE JUST TRAFFIC. I'LL BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME POINTERS.

>> THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. CAN YOU ASK THEM TO WAIT.

>> MR. HENNESSEY,

[2. Presentation by David Hamstra, P.E., CFM of Pegasus Engineering regarding drainage at Marsh Landing. ]

>> RECONVENE THE MEETING AND WILL ITALIAN N START WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS A REPORT BY MR. DAVID HAMSTRA WILL ASK MR. HAMSTRA TO COME AND SHARE HIS FINDINGS. ON HIS STUDY.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON MR. HAMSTRA, WELCOME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSION AND CHAIRMAN.THANK YOU FOR LET ME DO THIS PRESENTATION I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANES AND THE BACK AND FORTH WITH BOTH SIDES I THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH THINK THE SEGMENT WE CAN GET TO QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. JUST A QUICK 32ND BACKGROUND ON MYSELF.

GRADUATED AND 84 BEEN PRACTICING CIVIL ENGINEERING PROPERLY FOR STORMWATER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS FOCUS MY ENTIRE CAREER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ALL THE WAY FROM VOTED SPRINGS AND PREDICT BETWEEN. FLOOD MITIGATION, FLOODPLAIN AND FLOOD PREVENTION IS WHAT I HAVE FOCUSED ON THE ENTIRE TIME. SO THE PRESENTATION OUTLINE THIS AFTERNOON AS A BACKGROUND INTRODUCTION OF THESE ASSIGNMENTS.

THE SCOPE OF WORK THE COUNTY GAVE ME TO UNDERTAKE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS IT RELATES TO MARSHLAND IN PROBLEM AREAS AND DEFICIENCIES I IDENTIFIED TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES AND MEETINGS MY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD AND THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS OBVIOUSLY AFTER THE PUBLIC SPEAKS AND QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AFTERWARDS. SO, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE COUNTY TO FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION NUMBER ONE AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION NUMBER TWO WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE.

HOA ONE IS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THAT AREA AND HOA 2 IS IN THE NORTHERN HALF OF THAT AREA.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT EITHER HOA'S I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THIS MORNING'S FOR THE SATURDAYS PRESENTATION. THIS AFTERNOON'S PRESENTATION. WE ORIGINALLY RETAINED BY ST.

JOHNS COUNTY DISTRICT IN DECEMBER 20 ST. JOHNS COUNTY. OUR ENGAGEMENT ORIGINALLY WAS TO APPEAR REVIEW THE TWO WHAT I CALL CONDITION 26 PERMITS WHAT THAT MEANS IS MARSH LANDING UNDERTAKE A PERMIT APPLICATION TO BRING THEIR EXISTING SYSTEM INTO COMPLIANCE BASED ON CURRENT CRITERIA AND THE CONDITION OF THAT PERMIT WAS TOO SPECIFIC AREAS TO ADDRESS FOR CHRONIC OR LOCALIZED FLOODING. THAT WAS LAKESIDE CIRCLE WHICH WAS UNIT 14 AND ALPINE WHICH IS UNIT SEVEN THOSE ARE TWO SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE EARMARKED IN THE PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED IN JULY 2020. FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS WE TRANSITION FOR THE DISTRICTS AND LED TO OTHER SUPPORT ROLES IN THE DISTRICT RELATED TO HOA ONE AND HOA 2 FROM MARSH LANDING. IN AUGUST 2022 ST. JOHN'S RETAINED PEGASUS ENGINEERING TO PROVIDE STORMWATER REVIEW. VIEW OF HOA ONE AND HOA 2.

BEFORE WE GET INTO ALL OF THE ENGINEERING AND DRAINAGE ASPECTS I DO WANT IT TO BE CLARIFIED WORDS I USE LOOSELY WHICH IS THE WORD FLOODING. FLOODING HAS A WHOLE RANGE OF IMPACTS FOR PEOPLE EITHER PERSONALLY , PROFESSIONALLY, SAFETY WISE IF I COULD EARMARKED THE FORECASTERS WE USE FOR SPEAKING. ONE STRUCTURAL FLOODING WHICH OBVIOUSLY WATER IS SO HIGH IT ENTERS SOMEONE'S HOME. WHICH IS LETTING ME TRY TO AVOID WITH THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE. WE DON'T WANT HAVE ANY WATER IN THEIR HOMES THE DAMAGE THE FURNACE DAMAGES THE FURNITURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BELOW THAT IS GARAGE FLOODING THAT'S WHEN THE WATER DOESN'T QUITE GET INSIGHT INTO THE HOUSE. DOES GET AS HIGH AS THE GARAGE. FROM A FAMOUS PROSPECTIVE GARAGE FLOODING IS CONSIDERED STRUCTURAL FLOODING THEY CORRELATE THOSE AS ONE IN THE SAME. YOUR FLOODING IS ON THE LOWER PART OF THE POND OR ROADWAY APPROACHES THE PROPERTY. IT ACTUALLY IS COME CIRCLE THE HOME OR JUST TO THE FRONT YARD OR BACKYARD. LASTLY, AS WITH THE CALL RIGHT AWAY FLOODING OR ROADWAY FLOODING IT'S WHEN THE CAPACITY OF THE PIPES OR INLETS ARE OVERWHELMED AND THE WATER ACTUALLY FILLS THE STREET ITSELF OR CAN FLOOD THE STATE. THIS BECOMES A SAFETY PROBLEM WHICH IS ALL DOWNTOWN DURING HURRICANE AND THE WATER WAS SO HIGH THAT TO CLOSE IT OFF VERSUS FIRST RESPONDERS CONNECTED TO HOUSES SO ALL THESE LEVELS OF FLOODING ALL

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HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON THEIR PARTICULAR AREA. THESE LEVELS OF FLOODING CAN CAUSE CERTAIN FACTORS RAINFALL WITH A HURRICANE WE CANNOT FLOODING BECAUSE SHORT DURATION HIGH INTENSITY STORM LIKE WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT CAUSED LOCALIZED FLOODING.

YET HIGH TIDE OR STORM SURGE THAT CAN CAUSE FLOODING.YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AN ADEQUATE OR MISSING CONVEYANCE SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO CONVEY THE WATER TO A POND RECONNECTION HAVE A SYSTEM THAT'S DOWN AND NOT WORKING FOR EXAMPLE A PUMP STATION THAT'S NOT A WORD.

FOR MARSH LANDING SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AS I MENTIONED THE STORM SYSTEM WE HAVE NUMEROUS I THINK IT'S 23 INTERCONNECTED STORMWATER PONDS FOR HOA NUMBER TWO ALONE. THE DANISH DRAINAGE PIPES AND CULVERTS WITH PUMP STATIONS THAT TAKE THE WATER FROM THE POND TO CABBAGE CREEK AND THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY.

WITH SOME PONDS THAT CALL A FLAP GATE ON A CONTROL STRUCTURE WHICH MEANS WHEN THE TIME GETS HIGH AND PREVENTS THE WATER FROM GOING BACK GOES BACK TO THE JUNTA SYSTEM OCCUPIES THE POND. THE PROTECTION BERMS WHICH WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE.

SWELLS AND DITCHES THAT CAPTURE WATER AND TAKEN TO THE POND. OVERLAND FLOW WHICH IS ENFORCEMENT OF MARSH LANDING WHICH COMES OFF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY INTO THE (NAME?) WITH PEERS FROM THE AREA TO MONITOR WATER LEVELS DURING STORM EVENTS.

NOW, TO GET BACK ON TRACK WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND MY SCOPE OF WORK.

I WAS ASKED TO DETERMINE IF SWELLS WERE PRESENT AND FUNCTIONAL.

I WAS NOT ASKED TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE REQUIRED. MY SPECIFIC GOAL IS TO DO A SITE INSPECTION AND SEE IF SWELLS ARE PRESENT. BETWEEN THE HOMES AND ALSO WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO ESTIMATE A FREEBOARD WHICH IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE WATER LEVEL IN THE POND. WE ARE THEN ASKED TO LOOK INTO THE CRITERIA FOR THE PONDS HIMSELF FOR THE MARSH LANDING HOA 2.

WE ARE ASKED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE LITIGANTS AND HAVE TWO JOINT MEETINGS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS TO GET THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY REGARDING WHAT THEY SUFFERED AND PASSED IN A RECENT FLOOD EVENTS IN THE RECENT OBSERVATIONS. WE BEEN ASKED BY THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC ORDINANCES 1978, 86, 98.SEE WHAT THE ORDINANCE MAY APPLY TO THE WORK THEY WERE DOING AND RECOMMENDING WHICH I BELIEVE MR. WAYNE WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK AFTER ME BUT TALK ABOUT THE APPLICABILITY OF THE RECOGNITION OF THE COUNTIES ORDINANCE. THE SECOND TO LAST IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY IS THE DRAFT REPORT.

BASEDON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD , THE COUNTY STAFF AND THE PUBLIC WE ACTUALLY DID THE FINAL REPORT TO BE SPITTED FOR THE FINAL WORK PRODUCT. AS FAR AS TASK NUMBER ONE FOR THE COUNTY WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT SWELLS AND THESE INVOLVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SWELLS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THERE IS RIGHT-OF-WAY SWELLS WHICH ARE THE SWELLS POTENTIALLY FROM THE HOMES WITHIN EACH UNIT. THERE IS MARSH LANDING PARKWAY WHICH IS A MAIN ROAD GOING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY WHETHER THAT IS SWELLS FOR THE PLANS AND THAT IS ALSO ASKED LOOK AT SWELLS THAT WERE PRESENT BETWEEN EACH INDIVIDUAL HOME WITHIN EACH UNIT.

AGAIN, WERE ASKED HERE TO CONFIRM THEIR EXISTENCE AND THEIR FUNCTIONING AND AGAIN I BELIEVE THE COUNTY LATER IF THE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.SO MY FINDINGS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SWELLS IS ALL THE STREETS WITH THE HOA ONE AND HOA 2 I PERSONALLY WALKED UP AND DOWN EVERY STREET ON BOTH SIDES TO CONFIRM THE EXISTENCE OF WHAT I CALL ROADSIDE SWELLS. WITHIN HOA ONE I FOUND NO SWELLS FROM 169 HOMES AND WITHIN HOA 2 I LOCATED SIX SWELLS WITHIN THE 236 HOMES OR ROUGHLY OF THE 385 HOMS THERE WERE SIX SWELLS PRESENT WITHIN THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY. I WAS THEN ASKED TO LOOK AT THE SWELLS AND THE MARSH LANDING PARKWAY FOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS THERE WERE SEGMENTS OF SWELLS RESTRICTED WHICH ARE LISTED IN THE PHOTOGRAPH IN FRONT OF YOU THERE'S ALSO SEGMENTS OF MARSH LANDING PARKWAY THAT DON'T HAVE SWELLS. THE PLANS AND IN ONE CASE I'M AWARE OF THAT HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON THE OWNER WHO LIVES ON MARCH PARKWAY.

WE WERE THEN ASKED TO DO A MAPPING EFFORT TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND OUT IF SWELLS EXIST BETWEEN THE HOMES. PER THE PLAT, THERE'S A 10 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT ON BOTH SIDES FOR

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UTILITY AND DRAINAGE PURPOSES AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT SWELLS WERE CONSTRUCTED DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE HOME TAKE THE WATER FROM POTENTIALLY FOR EXAMPLE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO A NEARBY POND. WE LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT TOPOGRAPHIC SOURCES ONE IS OLD AND ONE IS FAIRLY NEW IT WAS INCONCLUSIVE BASED ON A TREE COVERED AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAPPING TO DETERMINE WHETHER SWELLS WERE PRESENT. WHEN I DID WALK UP AND DOWN EVERY SINGLE STREET I WASN'T ABOUT TO GO BETWEEN EVERYBODY'S HOMES FOR SAFETY REASONS IT WOULD BEEN FAR TOO TIME-CONSUMING THERE ARE 400 HOMES WITHIN THESE TWO UNITS.

CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU A CONCLUSIVE DETERMINATION ON WHETHER OR NOT SWELLS EXIST BETWEEN THE HOMES WITHIN HOA WANTED HOA 2. TASK TO TRANSITION TO LOOKING AT THE STORM WATER POND AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE DISTANCE OR WHAT THEY CALL THE FREEBOARD BETWEEN THE DESIGN OF HIGH WATER ELEVATION THAT'S WATER THAT'S IN THE POND WHEN IT RAINS AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE PONDS ARE DESIGNED FOR A 25 YEAR 24 HOUR STORM ROUGHLY 9 INCHES WHICH IS A FOUR PERCENT CHANCE OF OCCURRING YEAR ON YEAR.

ONCE THE POND FILLS UP WITH HIGH WATER WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL A TOP BANK WAS THE CONTOURS THAT ENCLOSED THE POND AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WATER IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE POND OR WHETHER IT FLOWS AND ENACTS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF PERSONAL PROPERTY.

I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE ADD-ON. I DO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING IN JUNE I WILL TIPTOE AROUND THAT THE SOLE FOCUS OF THE HEARING IN JUNE.

FOR THE SAKE OF THIS AFTERNOON'S PRESENTATION THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS WORK DONE WITH THE VERTICAL DATA OF AMINAH SEA LEVEL. BASED ON WHO YOU TALK TO IN ANY PERIOD OF TIME SOME EQUATED MEAN SEA LEVEL TO REPRESENT NORTH GEO DATA DEDHAM.

NOT TO CONFUSE ANYBODY WE ARE GOING TO ASSUME SINCE THE HEARING IS NEXT MONTH THE LEVEL IS ONE AND THE SAME WE ARE NOT COULD GO BACK AND FORTH ON THE DATASHEET.

SO HERE WE HAVE THE TYPICAL SECTION TOP OF THE BANK WAS SUPPOSED TO ROUGHLY 3.5 DESIGN I WATER IS ANTICIPATED IN 1984 THIS WAS DONE ORIGINALLY FOR ROUGHLY 3 AND THEN WE HAVE THE DARK BLUE AREA WHICH IS THE WET DETENTION PORTION THE WET BODY OF WATER IT'S WATER QUALITY THE LIGHT BLUE AREA PROVIDES PROTECTION WHICH IS THE RETENTION VOLUME.

SO TAKE AND THE DESIGN HIGH WATER ELEVATION THAT WERE PUT IN IN JULY 2020 FOR THE ST.

JOHN'S --CONSULTANTS WE LOOKED AT THE TOP OF THE BANK THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE REPORT AND THE DESIGN AND IDENTIFIED WHETHER OR NOT CERTAIN PONDS IF THE FREEBOARD WAS SIX INCHES OR LESS. JUST IN THE SCREEN HERE EVERYTHING IN BLUE PROVIDE MORE THAN SIXINCHES OF FREEBOARD AND THE PONDS IN ORANGE OR TANGERINE ARE THE FIVE PONDS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT IS HAVING FREEBOARD LESS THEN SIX INCHES.

AND THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE WILL BE ELABORATED IN FURTHER DETAIL FURTHER IN MY PRESENTATION.

I WAS ALSO ASKED TO DISCUSS EARLIER TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND HAVE TWO JOINT MEETINGS WITH THE LITIGANTS IT WAS ROUGHLY 13-16 OF THEM ON EACH OCCASION.

WE HAD ONE LOCATION EACH HOMEOWNER WITH HOA ONE AND HOA 2 WITH HER PERSONAL ACCOUNTS THEY SHARED PHOTOGRAPHS, VIDEOS OF WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF STORM EVENTS WHETHER IT WAS RAINFALL, STORM CHURCH DRIVEN WHATEVER THEY FELT THE NEED TO SHARE WITH ME THAT TOOK PLACE ON OCTOBER 8 AND OCTOBER 29. THAT LISTS THERE WAS RECORDED BY THEM RANGED FROM VARIOUS PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION OF FLOODING WHETHER HOME OR GARAG . SOME OF THEM PRESERVE THE PUMP STATIONS ARENOT WORKING .

WHEN NEEDED. SOME ACCOUNT FOR CERTIFICATE RUNOFF FROM THE ROADSINTO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY . LOSS OF POWER AND EXCESSIVE SEDIMENTS IN SPECIFIC AREAS.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES OUTLINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS. SO WITH THAT SAID, AND THEN LAUNCHED INTO CONFIRMING WHETHER THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE PLAINTIFFS OF LITIGANTS WERE FACTUAL BASED ON WHAT I HEARD I HAVE SEEN FROM PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY PROBLEMATIC. I HAVE IDENTIFIED FOR DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON NINE

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SPECIFIC DEFICIENCIES OR NINE SPECIFIC PROBLEM AREAS AND I RECOMMEND THE ORDER OF SEVERITY. YOU WILL SEE WHY IN A FEW MINUTES ITEM NUMBER ONE IMPACTS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, NUMBER TWO AS YOU GO DOWN THE LIST THINGS GET LESS AND LESS SEVER . SOME TRANSITION TO SIBLEY MAINTENANCE OR MINOR SWELLS BUT PROPOSES ON EACH ONE SPECIFICALLY SPENDING MORE TIME THE FIRST COUPLE OF BULLETS BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY. I DID THIS FOR TWO REASONS. A WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT THE ALLEGATIONS TO SEE IF THERE ACTUALLY FACTUAL BUT NUMBER TWO YOUR 1978 ORDINANCE CLEARLY STATES THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO FLOODING OR BEACH EROSION OR ANYTHING DETRIMENTAL PUBLIC HEALTH. I USED THAT BROAD BRUSH TO LOOK AT MARSH LANDING ONE INTO TO SEE IF THESE ELEMENTS I CAME ACROSS WERE BROUGHT FORTH AND I DEFINITELY REMEDY FOR CORRECTION. SO FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS. MY NECK OF THE WOODS IN A CENTRAL FLORIDA WE DO NOT SEE THESE THE PROBLEM ON THE EAST COAST BUT BASICALLY IT'S A BARRIER THAT COULD BE ABLE, DAMN, A BARRIER THAT ISOLATES THE AREA FROM STORMWATER PONDS.

AS THE TIDE GOES UP AND DOWN IT STAYS ON ONE SIDE OF THE BARRIER AND WHEN IT RAINS WITH THE MARSH LANDING NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO ESSAYS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BARRIER AND THEN IT COMES TO THE PONDS THE PONDS FILL UP AND PUMP STATIONS GET THE WATER.

THE INTENT OF THE BARRIER IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AS FAR AS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS TO ISOLATE THE BOUNDARY CONDITIONS OF THE TITLE THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM BECAUSE IF THE BEARS ARE NOT THERE THE TIDE GETS TOO HIGH THE WATER GOES INTO THE PONDS AND THE PONDS ARE FULL THEY CAN SERVE THE PURPOSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO.

FLOOD PROTECTION THEY WILL NOT BE FUNCTIONAL IN THE RECYCLE WATER.

IF IT'S ALREADY BREACHED THE AREA. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY TO SECURE THAT HOA ONE AND TWO AND I LOOK AT THE OTHER SEE IF THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS FOCUSED ON HOA NUMBER ONE AND TWO. THE ELEVATION OF THE SPERM IS THE SUBJECT MATTER FOR THE HEARING PROCESS THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN JUNE.

MY DEPOSITION IS NEXT WEEK OR SOON AFTER THAT.AGAIN, THE ELEVATION FOR TODAY AND THAT'S NOT WHAT A CHANGE IN BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE HEARING. THE SEA LEVEL FOR FIVE -- IT CAN BE FIVE FEET, FOUR FEET, DEPENDS ON THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND BE PROPOSED.

SO IN MY OPINION, I HAVE REVIEWED AND I WILL SAY THAT HOA 2 HAD FAR MORE AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAN HOA ONE DID SO BASED ON MY REVIEW OF THE HOA 2 PLANS I BELIEVE AND I SAID IS PART OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS THAT WE DESIGNED THIS PROJECT HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD ELEVATION THE INTRACOASTAL ELEVATION FOR AN SEA LEVEL.

THEY SET THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS ELEVATION AT FIVE WITH A FOOT OF FREEBOARD ON THE OTHER SIDE SO WHEN MOTHER NATURE DOESN'T COME BACK THE INTERNAL PONDS UNFORTUNATELY JUST A FEW YEARS AFTER CONSTRUCTION STARTED FEMA RAISED THE COLLISION BY TWO FEET SO THEY HAD A FOOT OF FREEBOARD TO BE BELOW THE BERM ELEVATION AND THE FACT THAT THEY BUILT CONSTRUCTION ON HOA ONE AND TWO. WHAT I WAS ASKED TO DO WAS TRY TO FIND OUT THE ENTRY POINTS WHERE THE WATER COULD COME INTO MARSH LANDING AND HOW DO WE PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING MOVING FORWARD SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS CONTINUED IMPACT OF IMPACTS AND STORMS FOR MAJOR EVENTS. I WILL SAY NOW IN PUBLIC SAY TWO MORE TIMES LATER I KNOW THAT FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS ARE NOT INTENDED TO STOP EVERY AND ALL FLOODING. EVERY TIME WE THINK WE BE MOTHER NATURE A BIGGER STORM COMES AND REMINDS US WHO'S IN CHARGE. BUT I AM HERE TO SAVE THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS ARE BUILT OR I RECOMMEND THEY WILL REDUCE THE FREQUENCY AND THE DURATION OF FLOODING AND WILL NOT PREVENT ALL FLOODING EVENTS. SO I TOOK THIS MAP TO A TOPOGRAPHIC MAP AND A HIGHLY EVERYTHING IN A BLUE THAT'S ABLATION ELEVATION FOUR AND BELOW. THIS IS A DATA WHICH IS ROUGHLY ELEVATION FIVE NGVD AND THE

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REASON WHY DURING THIS COLOR IN BLUE AND LOOKING FOR ALL THE BLUE AREAS AND PENETRATE OR ENTER EVERYTHING WENT TO SEAL OFF. THERE IS A BLOWUP EXAMPLE THIS IS THE 18TH HOLE THE BACK NINE OF MARSH LANDING. ON THE CENTER THE LIGHT BLUE AND DARK BLUE IS A TRIBUTARY AND I HAVE CIRCLED IN YELLOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND THIS IS WHEN THE WATER GETS TOO HIGH HOW IT CAN BASICALLY PENETRATE INSIDE THE STORM MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FROM MARSH LANDING . IF THESE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WERE BOTH ADDRESSED BY THE ORIGINAL AND A NEW ONE THAT HAVE SURFACED AND ALSO THE WHITE LATER AND FOCUS OUR ENERGY ON TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE PROPERLY PROTECTED FOR THOSE TWO COMMUNITIES.

THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE SCREENSHOTS OF THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS BY THE ORIGINAL ENGINEER IN 1984. PALL THESE FOUR SLIDES ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED THAT'S THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS BACK ROUGHLY 30-40 YEARS AGO THIS PARTICULAR CASE HAS GONE FROM THE COURT CUL-DE-SAC TO THE PROPERTY LINES THAT USED TO BE WHOLE NUMBER NINE IS THE WHOLE 18 AND OUTSIDE THE BLUE AREA SO THAT. THIS IS NOW WHOLE NUMBER 16 WITHIN THE UNIT A AND THEN THE WALL AND RED IS BASICALLY ACCOMMODATION OF EARTH AND RETAINING WALL THAT ALONG THIS AREA TO PREVENT THE TIDE FROM FALLING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

NOW, I WILL TRANSITION TO HOA ONE UNIT FOUR TO THE TOP OF THE SCREEN THIS IS A VERY OLD SET OF PLANS BUT THAT'S A TRIBUTARY TITLE TRIBUTARY THAT IN HIS ABSENCE CAUSES WATER TO GO THROUGH THOSE LOTS INTO THE STORMWATER POND AND OVERWHELM THE SYSTEM.

IN THE LAST EXAMPLE WITH HOA ONE HOUR INTENT IS TO SEPARATE THE TITLE AREA ON THE SIDE OF THE SCREEN AT THE LOWER END OF THE SCREEN AND ACTUALLY GETTING INTO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.

SO BASED ON THE HOMEOWNERS, BASED ON VIDEOS, PHOTOGRAPHS, SITE INSPECTIONS, REVIEW OF ALL INFORMATION WE DID OUR OWN INVESTIGATION ON WHERE THE PROTECTION BERMS NEED TO BE STORED, RECONSTRUCTED OR POTENTIAL RECOMMEND NEW ONES BECAUSE NOT THE MASTER ASSOCIATION'S FAULT BUT THE ORIGINAL WAS NOT BUILT EXACTLY. THE PLANS AS FAR AS THE OPENING THAT'S GOING TO SEAL UP. SO TO THE RIGHT IS HOA? I'M SORRY HOA ONE IN THE RED BOX WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AN ENTR?E TO USE THE POINTER HERE. AND AT THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE THE YELLOW IS ELEVATION FOUR AND ABOVE. WHERE THE GLUE IS ELEVATION FO . MANY, ANY AREA OF THE SITE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE YELLOW AND THE POINTER IS MINUS I'LL TRY TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN IT BUT LOOK TO YOUR LEFT I WILL SEE THE TRIBUTARY GRAY IN THE STORMWATER POND WITHIN HOA ONE ADDITIONAL YELLOW IN BETWEEN AS THAT'S WHERE THE TIDE WATER WILL COME AND FLOOD THE PONDS. IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT OF THE RED BOX YOU WILL SEE UNIT THREE YOU WILL SEE THAT THE STREET IS IN YELLOW WHICH MEANS THE STREET ELEVATION IS FOR ABOVE SO THE WATER THAT COMES FROM THE LEFT THROUGH THE HOUSES TOWARDS THE STREET THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION ACTS AS A BARRIER AND KEEPS THE WATER FROM ENTERING THE POND. BUT THERE'S NO YELLOW BETWEEN THE TIDE AND THE POND THE TIDE HAS FREE RANGE TO GO INTO THE PONDS AND FILL THEM UP FOR MAJOR STORM EVENTS.

THE SAME EXERCISE WAS DONE FOR HOA 2 LOOKING FOR AREAS WHERE THE NON-YELLOW AREAS CONNECTED TO THE STORMWATER PONDS WITH THE RED BOX TO THE LEFT LOWER LEFT IS UNIT EIGHT.

HOLE 16 IS RUNNING AND THAT IMAGE AND THE TIDE GOES UP AND AROUND UNIT A TO THE FAIRWAY AND UNIT A BECAUSE IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH AREA WHERE WATER CAN COME INTO THE PONDS AND OVERWHELM THE PONDS AND CAUSE ITEMS IN THE SYSTEM. I'M GOING TO FIRST TALK ABOUT

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WHAT I FOUND AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH IS IMPACTS TO THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS THE LASTCOUPLE BOARD MEETINGS REGARDING FREEBOARD , RETENTION VOLUME, THE BANK, FLOODING PRIVATE PROPERTY SO WHAT I DID IS I TOOK THE PERMANENT DESIGN HIGH WATER FOR EVERY POND AND I TOOK THE TOPOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND IN BLUE FOR EVERY POND SHOW THE LIMITS OF THE 25 YEAR 24 HOUR FLOODING THAT WAS PROPOSED.

I THEN WENT TO THE RECORDED PLAT AND WE DREW THE LAKE EASEMENTS ON EACH OF THESE AREAS WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE AND THE YELLOW LINE. I BELIEVE WHEN THEY PLOTTED THIS AND YOU CAN SEE OF THE PONDS TRAVELS THE GOLF COURSE INTO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTIES THAT DASH YELLOW LINES AND COMPASS WATERS WITHIN THE STATE WITHIN THE YELLOW WITHIN THE PONDS. WE DID THIS FOR SEVERAL OF THE UNITS IN SOME AREAS USING THE GLUCOSE SLIGHTLY BROWN AND YELLOW BUT IN MOST CASES TO SAVE THE WORST ONE FOR LAST AND MOST CASES THE BLUE IS WITHIN THE YELLOW AND SLIGHTLY ON THE YELLOW.

IN DIFFERENT AREAS. ENTR?E ACCORDING TO THE LAKE EASEMENTS THE DESIGN HIGH WATER AND TOP OF BANK I'M TRYING TO CORRELATE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

I CANNOT DO THIS FOR HOA ONE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION SO I JUST HAVE IT FOR HOA 2. NOW I'M TRANSITIONING TOWARDS OPEN-MINDED COURT WHOLE 18 IN THIS WHOLE AREA OF CONCERN ON. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON HOLE NUMBER 18 WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN WE HAVE WATER ON ONE SIDE OF THE FAIRWAY WITHIN THE YELLOW LINE YOU CAN SEE POND 88 WHICH IS BACKING UP TO THE LITIGANTS HOME AND HIS NEIGHBORS HOMES AND OAKLAWN COURT THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. THAT POND WAS NOT PERMITTED AND I BELIEVE THAT POND WAS BUILT CIRCA 98 OR 99. IT'S AN UNPERMITTED POND IT DID NOT HAVE A LAKE EASEMENTS ON TOP OF IT AND BECAUSE OF THE HYDRAULIC ROUNDUPS FROM 98-41 THE PUMP STATION BECAUSE THE PIPES ARE TOO SMALL IN SOME LOCATIONS KIND OF CREATES A CASCADING ELEVATED WATER LEVEL IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT IS SO HIGH IT ACTUALLY GOES WELL INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED NEATLY. I DON'T THINK THIS PROPER DESIGN TAPWATER STAGED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. THIS MATTER HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND IT'S NO SURPRISE BUT I DO STATE THAT FOR HOA 2 THIS IS WHAT I CALL THE HOTSPOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH THREE PEOPLE ON THAT STREET THAT ARE GETTING WATER WELL UP INTO THEIR YARDS BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION OF THAT POND ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE RETENTION VOLUME AND THE HIGH VOLUME CAPACITY THIS IS AN ISSUE I FIND NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER. TRANSITION TO THE NEXT TOPIC IDENTIFY PROBLEM AREA.

THE POND SLIDE SLOPES. I HAVE HEARD FROM THE CITY THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, FROM THE PUBLIC AND I DO ACKNOWLEDGE AND I DON'T DISPUTE THAT THE ENGINEER RECORD THEY DO A DETAILED POND ANALYSIS SLIDE SCOPE NAILS IT WAS IT WAS APPROVED BY THE DISTRICT.

SO WE HAD THIS MORE AS A SAFETY ISSUE. THE SLIGHT SLOPE I SHOW IN THIS PICTURE IS NOT BECAUSE IT'S IMPACTING THE DESIGN, THE FLOOD, IT'S NOT CAUSING DRAINAGE ISSUES TO ME IT'S PURELY A SAFETY ISSUE. ONLY BECAUSE I WITNESSED AND ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS OLDER MEN TRY TO RETRIEVE A AWFUL I UNDERSTAND BETWEEN SNAKES, AND STEEP SLOPES, WHY CHASE A CHEAP BALL FOR DOLLAR 50. I SEE THEM GOING INTO THE POND TRYING TO GET THEIR GOLF BALL AND I PERSONALLY FELL ON ONE INSPECTION ON THE TWO LOWER LEFT PICTURES I SHOULD HAVE PAID BETTER ATTENTION BUT I HAD EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF ME AND HAD MY LEVEL AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO SLOPE AND I TUMBLED TO THE BOTTOM.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER BUT I THINK THEORIES THAT INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC I'M NOT MAKING A STATEMENT FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PONDS GO INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT FOR PURE SAFETY REVIEW NOT A DRAINAGE POINT OF VIEW THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. NOW, TRANSITIONING TO THE LESS SEVERE PROBLEM AREAS.

REMOVAL OF SUCH AN ASSIGNMENT ON PROPERTIES FIRST ON THE TWO BIG CULVERTS THAT GO UNDERNEATH

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MARSH LANDING PARKWAY. THESE TWO TRAIN INTO A LARGE WATERWAY IN A LARGE CANAL AND IT'S NO SURPRISE OVER THE YEARS AS THE TIDE GOES UP AND DOWN AND THEY GET SOME RUNOFF THE PSENATE BUILDS UP AND DROPS OFF AND BUILDS THESE SANDBARS WERE SEDIMENTATION BILLS UP AND I SIMPLY SUGGEST THESE TWO CROSSINGS THAT THE SEDIMENTS GET REMOVED TO RESTORE THE FULL HYDRAULIC CAPACITY OF THESE BOX COURTS AT THESE TWO LOCATIONS. RELATED TO THAT AS WE SEE IT YELLOW ARE THE LOCATIONS OF THE TWO PRIMARY MARSH LANDING PARKWAY CULVERTS.

I ALSO TALK ABOUT DREDGING THE WATERWAYS. THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BY ENGINEERS ON BOTH SIDES. YOU DON'T WANT TO SIMPLY DREDGE PTHE CULVERT ONLY AND HAVE THE CHANNEL ON BOTH SIDES SLIDE BECAUSE BY DEFAULT THE GO RIGHT BACK INTO THAT SAME SPOT AND OCCUPIED THAT AREA IN THE CULVERT. WE HAD DISCUSSED DREDGING A LITTLE BIT EAST AND WEST OF EACH CULVERT AND CREATE A SETTLEMENT SLUMP TO ENCOURAGE THE SENATE TO DEPOSIT IN THE TRIBUTARY NOT IN THE CULVERT THEREBY IMPACTED THE HYDRAULIC CAPACITY. IT WAS NICE AND COLD THIS MORNING NOW IT'S WARM IN HERE.

NEXT ONE IS A SHORT 21. THE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LITIGANTS I SPOKE WITH SPECIFICALLY UNITS FOUR AND FIVE AND THEY ALL RECANTED SEPARATELY THAT THE VIDEOS, PHOTOGRAPHS AND ACCOUNTS ON WHAT THEY SUFFERED.

SO, BESIDES THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF KNOWLEDGE ON THE DRAINAGE ASPECTS AND CHARACTERISTIC OF HOA ONE AND HERE WERE NOTICEABLY ASKED AND ANSWERED ASSOCIATION RETAIN AN ENGINEER TO MODEL THE CITY LIKE THE MODEL FOR HOA 2 TO SEE IF THE PUMP STATIONS ARE TOO SMALL AND MAYBE TO UPSIZE TO HANDLE THE WATER THAT'S ENTERING THE FLOOD STATION. THERE ARE EXISTING PUMP STATIONS BUT I'M UNAWARE WHETHER THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MITIGATE FLOOD WATERS AS NEEDED ESPECIALLY IN THE ABSENCE OF FLOOD PROTECTION PROTECTION.

. THE ROADWAYS TO TAKE THE WATER FROM THE ROADWAY SYSTEM THIS IS SIMPLY BACKUP MAINTENANCE SOME OF THESE CULVERTS ARE HALF-FULL SEVERAL INLETS THAT YOU SEE IN THE LOWER LEFT AND LOWER RIGHT AND TO DIG THROUGH A COUPLE FEET OF LEAVES TO FIND THEM THIS IS SIMPLY MAINTENANCE. AND OF THE ASSOCIATION STATED THEY HAD A WEEKLY AND MONTHLY MAINTENANCE PROGRAM SO THESE AREAS JUST NEED SOME SPECIAL ATTENTION.

THE WET SEASON SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE WATER. SAME HOLDS TRUE TO UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD COORDINATED METAL PIPES AND SOMEWHAT BRACKISH AREA AND A 40-YEAR-OLD DIFFERENT. WITH THAT COMES DETERIORATION OF PIPES.

THE MASTER ASSOCIATION OVER THE YEARS SAUL LYNAM WERE THE PUT A PLASTIC LINING ON THE PIPE AND OTHER AREAS THE COMPANY REPORT DONE SOONER THAN LATER. THERE'S ALSO INSPECTION PROGRAM SUGGESTED TO CONTINUE TO INSPECT NOT JUST THE OUTSIDE OF THESE BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE PONDS. THEY HAVE ROOT INTRUSION, THE PIPE CAN SIMPLY COLLAPSE AND YOU REALLY NEVER KNOW IF THE PIPE IS WORKING LIKE IT SHOULD BE IF YOU DON'T RUN A CAMERA THROUGH THEIR ONCE IN A WHILE TO MAKE SURE THE PUMP CAN CONVEY THE WATER FROM THE HIGH POINT TO THE LOW POINT OF THE PUMP STATION. LASTLY, WITH RESPECT TO SWELLS, THE PERMANENT PLANS INDICATED SWELLS IN SPECIFIC LOCATIONS. I DID WALK THE ENTIRE BACK NINE THEY DON'T HAVE SWELLS EXACTLY FOR THE PLANS BUT THEY DID THE INLETS, PIPES, THE TWO OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONVEYANCE SYSTEMS TO DRINK SOME OF THE GOLF COURSE.

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IS TO OFFER UP MY FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD, THE COMMISSION, THE STAFF AND AGAIN I GOT THEM IN ORDER OF PRIORITY WHICH I FEEL THE TALK TO COULD BE DONE IMMEDIATELY TO PREVENT ANY FURTHER IMPACTS TO THE HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN DIFFERENT LEVELS OF FLOODING OVER THE YEARS.I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE FIRST TWO AND I'LL MAKE IT QUICK ON THE OTHER ONES SOVIET COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND ASK QUESTIONS.

FOR THE FLOOD PROTECTION FIRM I RECOMMEND PROVIDING IN THE REPORTS IN THIS BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION DATING BACK TO APRIL OF LAST YEAR. THAT WE NEED TO RESTORE THE ONES THAT WERE BUILT THAT WERE TOO LOW, EXTEND THE BERMS THAT DON'T MATCH THE PLANS TOPOGRAPHIC PLANS AND FILL THE GAPS IN A FEW OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE WATER TO ENTER THE SYSTEM AND IMPACT THE STORMWATER PONDS. AGAIN WHEN REITERATE HEREBY UNDERSTAND CLEARLY THAT THE BERMS WILL NOT PREVENT ANY AND ALL FLOODING THEY GO A LONG WAY TO MINIMIZE THE FREQUENCY OF FLOODING DURING EVENTS. I AM GOING TO LOOK AT BUT SINCE ALSO THESE TOPICS OF SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION I COULD SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON EACH ONE OF THESE I WILL CIVILLY SAY WE RECOMMENDED SEVERAL LOCATIONS WITH DIFFERENT COLORS ON THE MAPS THERE STILL ONGOING TALKS BETWEEN BOTH PARTIES BUT TO GET MARRIED AND THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS NEED TO COME IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE CONTINUED IMPACT FOR HOA ONE AND 2. IN CLOSING ON THE BERMS FOR THE NEXT TOPIC DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE HEARING IF THE JUDGE OF THE HEARING RULES THE ELEVATION BERMS I WILL SAY FOR I'M JUST PROVIDING AS COMPARISON WITH MATTHEW, IRMA, CORY AND IAN AND (NAME?) ANNOUNCING THE BERMS NEED TO BE HIGHER FOR EVERY AND ALL FLOODING BUT THIS CAN BE A POINT OF REFERENCE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SUFFERED AND EXPRESSED IN THE AREA VERSUS WHAT THE BERMS WOULD BE AT MINIMUM TO RESTORE. THE NEXT ONE IS THE FLOODING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY OF FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON HOLDNUMBER 18 , SEVEN, OAKLAWN COURT, IS NOT IN A SINGLE AREA.

IN MYPROFESSIONAL OPINION , PRIVATE PROPERTY BEYOND THE LAKE EASEMENT OF THE POND IS SIMPLY AN EXAMPLE. THERE IS A FIX FOR THIS AND I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE I PROVIDE A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT THAT THIS FLOOD PROTECTION FIRM THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS THE OTHER TOPICS COULD BE DISCUSSED ON BOTH SIDES BUT THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS I THINK IS PARAMOUNT TO PROVIDE FLOOD PROTECTION TO THOSE IN HOA ONE AND TWO.

REGARDING HOA ONE AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THE NEED OF FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS I ALSO ENCOURAGE AND RECOMMEND SHOWING THAT THE MASTER ASSOCIATION CONSULTANT WHOEVER THEY MAY BE FOR MY DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUMPS ARE ADEQUATE AND PROVIDE THE PROPER AMOUNT OF FLOOD PROTECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE POND SLIDE SLOPES THIS IS A SCREENSHOT I HIGHLIGHTED IN A PURPLE THE AREAS FOR THE MASTER ASSOCIATION TO LOOK AT TOPOGRAPHICALLY TRUTHFULLY AND TO PLAN THEM OUT TO A FLATTER SUBDIVIDED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY YOU NOTICE ON HIGHLIGHTING THE PURPLE ALL THE LOTS OF THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK OF THE POND CAN ENFORCE THEMSELVES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THE INSPECTION PROGRAM AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THE AMOUNT I OBSERVED MY SITE INSPECTION.

ALSO POINTED OUT THE PIPES IN THE INLETS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FREE OF DEBRIS AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE WHEN NEEDED. AGAIN, TO HAVE A HIGH INTENSITY STORM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND THEY HAD LOCALIZED FLOODING A LOT OF PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PEOPLE'S GARAGES THAT FLOATED JUST FROM THAT AFTERNOON INTENSE SHOWER AND THINGS LIKE THIS GO A LONG WAY TO MAKE AVAILABLE THAT CONVEYANCE SYSTEMS.THE GOLF COURSE SWELLS ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THREE AREAS THIS IS WHOLE 15 BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND THE FAIRWAY TO THE NORTH. AND AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE REVIEW UNIT 10 AND UNIT 14 WERE

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APPROVED AND PERMANENT AFTER 8 . 8694 WHICH REQUIRES A SURVEY THIS IS ALSO A RECOMMENDATION OF THAT THE CHECKBOX BE ADMINISTERED FOR 14 AND 10.

THE PLANS DON'T MATCH WHAT IS ON THE FIELD. THERE'S INCONSISTENCIES ON THE DIFFERENT SOURCES DOCUMENTED. SO IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND STAFF FOR SUPPORT AND THEIR INPUT OVER THE PAST NINE MONTHS AND OF THIS TOOK LONGER THAN EXPECTED .

I HAVE MY NAME CORRECTLY AND INCORRECTLY HAMSTRA FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS GOING ON.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN STAND BEFORE YOU HEARING BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY AND LOOK AT IT FROM A FLOOD MITIGATION, FLOOD PROTECTION MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAKE THOSE TWO AREAS BETTER.

I WANT TO THANK THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND LITIGANTS FOR THEIR PATIENTS, AS WELL.

WAITING THERE PATIENTLY FOR THESE FINDINGS. LASTLY, I RESPECT YOUR REQUEST THAT AFTER THE PUBLIC SPEAKS OF ANY FOLLOW-UP AT ANY POTENTIAL MISINFORMATION.

ANY QUESTION THE BOARD MAY HAVE BEFORE I SIT DOWN?

>> IS TO HAMSTRA, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I ONE QUESTION AS RELEASED DUPONT AND B. WHO WOULD YOU ACQUIRE A PERMIT THROUGH WHO WOULD YOU GET THE PERMIT FROM?

>> GIVEN THE DATE THE POND WAS ETHICALLY EXCAVATED WHICH WAS CIRCA 96, 97, 98 AND SHOULD THE COUNTY AND THE DISTRICT. BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS STORMWATER CRITERIA AND OF COURSE THE DISTRICT DOES, AS WELL. THOSE UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENTS I THINK HAVE TO BE HANDLED BY BOTH AGENCIES.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I WILL SIT DOWN AND ANSWER QUESTIONS LATER, THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIR, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE MR. FLOWERS HAS REVIEWED THE COUNTIES MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT OF LIKE TO SHARE SOME FINDINGS.

>> YES, SIR. MR. FLOWERS, GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU I AM AWAITING A FLOWERS I WAS ASKED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO REVIEW MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT AND TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ITEMS THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. I PREPARED A MEMORANDUM AND SLIDES BUT I WILL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THE MEMORANDUM AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE.FIVE OF THE TOPICS THAT WERE ADDRESSED BY MR. HAMSTRA I THINK YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB I HAVE NO DOUBT AS TO THE INTEGRITY AND ACCURACY AND CONCLUSIONS AND I CERTAINLY AM NOT AN ENGINEER. FIVE OF THE TOPICS HE ADDRESSED THE MOST RELEVANT IN TERMS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THOSE WERE STORMWATER CONVEYANCE.

TOP OF BANK ELEVATIONS, STORM WATER POND SLIDE SLOPES AND FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS IN AND FOR EACH OF THOSE FEATURES THERE ARE TWO RELEVANT ORDINANCES JUDGMENT ADDRESS THE THREE ORDINANCES THAT THE COUNTY HAS WHEN THESE WERE ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AND THE MEMORANDUM I WROTE IN MARCH 2022. BUT IN TERMS OF THE FACILITIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PERHAPS IN THE UNPERMITTED POND I JUST WANT TO MENTION FROM THE 90S EITHER THE 78 OR 86 ORDINANCE AND FOR UNITS FIVE THROUGH NINE I'M SORRY THE 78 ORDINANCE BECAUSE THOSE RESULTS WERE PLOTTED AND CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE 1986 ORDINANCE UNITS 10 AND 14 ARE UNITS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN CERTAIN FACILITIES ARE ADDRESSED IN MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT. THE PLAT ACTUALLY 86 OR MS.

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WERE PLOTTED IN 86 OR 88 I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT I DO NOT KNOW THE STORMWATER PONDS FOR THE STUDENTS MAY HAVE CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE 1986 ORDINANCE.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, THE FIRST ITEM STORMWATER SWELL MR. HAMSTRA REPORTED ON PLACES AND SLIDE THROUGH NINE AND 10 AND 14 THEY ARE OR NOT PRESENT. THE QUESTION PRESENTED ITSELF WHERE THOSE SWELLS ARE NOT PRESENT. WHAT IS THE IMPORT OF THAT TO THE COUNTY? IN THE MEMO AS I POINT OUT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT IN ORDINANCE 38 FOUR-- THAT THE SWELLS BE THE STORMWATER DESIGN NOR OUR SPECIFICATIONS THEY ARE USED FOR WATER DESIGN. THE 78 ORDINANCE REQUIRES PART OF THE PLAT APPROVAL PROCESS AND DRAINAGE MAP. THE ASUS ORDINANCE REQUIRES AS PART OF THE PROCESS A MASTER DRAINAGE DESIGN BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY HERE. IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT STARTING WITH SWELLS WHETHER THERE IS AN ENFORCEMENT OPPORTUNITY RELATED TO THE FACT OF THE CURRENT SWELLS THAT WILL COME DOWN IN MY JUDGMENT WHETHER SWELLS ARE SHOWN ON THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN THAT WAS OMITTED BY THE APPLICANT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAT FOR UNITS FIVE THROUGH NINE WHICH WERE AGAIN PROCEEDING THE 9078 ORDINANCE FOR UNITS 10 AND 14 WHICH ARE PROCEEDED UNDER THE 96 ORDINANCE .- THERE WILL BE THE MASTER DRAINAGE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE APPROVAL OF THOSE PLANTS.

TO SUMMARIZE, UNLESS THOSE FEATURES WERE SHOWN ON THOSE MAPS THE MASTER DRAINAGE MAP, MASTER DRAINAGE DESIGN, THE COUNTY ENGINEER IN MY JUDGMENT THERE WAS NO CODE ENFORCEMENT OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE. PMR. HAMSTRA ALSO DISCUSSED HI REPORT THE NOTATIONS ON THE PLAQUES THAT RESERVE EASEMENTS AND DRAINAGE WAYS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF ALL THOSE UNITS AND AS I KNOW IN THE MEMORANDUM THE MERE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER GRANTOR OF THOSE ON THOSE PLOTS RESERVED THE RIGHTS TO PLACE THOSE THEY ARE INCLUDING SWELL . IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE THEM IT'S A RESERVATION OF THE ABILITY TO PUT OTHER TYPES OF INTEREST. STRUCTURE TO UTILIZE IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE THE DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT THE SWELLS. THE FACT THAT WE WERE SHOWN ON THE PLAT IS ONLY THAT CAN BE PLACED IN DOESN'T CREATE A CODE ENFORCEMENT OPPORTUNITY RELATED TO THE ABSENCE OF SWELLS.

THE NEXT ITEM IS TOP OF BANK ELEVATION WHICH MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT CITES TOP OF BANK ELEVATION CRITERIA FOR THE STORMWATER PONDS THAT APPEAR TO COME FROM 1999 ORDINANCE.

THERE ARE NO TOP OF BANK CRITERIA IN EITHER THE 78 OR THE 86 ORDINANCES.

AND NO REQUIREMENT THAT RELATES TO THE SPECIFIC ITEMS IN THOSE ORDINANCES SO AGAIN IN MY JUDGMENT DOSING OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ACTION ON THE CODE WITH REGARD TO A DESIRE TO TOP BANK ELEVATION. IN THE PONDS WITHIN THE UNITS WERE TALKING ABOUT.

THE THIRD WHICH IS VERY CRITICAL ONE IN HIS ANALYSIS IS WHAT PROTECTIONS.

HE DISCUSSES IN HIS REPORT THE PAVING AND DRAINAGE PLANS SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT WITH THE REGARD TO THE FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS. AGAIN, THE 78 ORDINANCE OF THE COUNTY DOES NOT REQUIRE FLOOD PROTECTION AS PART OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM DESIGN NOR DOES THE 86 ONE. EACH OF THOSE ORDINANCES

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REQUIRE THE BERMS OR DIFFERENT TYPE OF FEATURE. SO AGAIN, UNLESS THOSE TYPES OF FEATURES AND FLOOD PROTECTION IN TURN ELEVATION WAS SHOWN ON THAT MAP OR THAT DRAINAGE IS FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER I DOSING OPPORTUNITY BASED ON THE LANGUAGE TO UNDERTAKE CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION. NEXT ITEM, STORMWATER #SLOPES AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT EITHER THE 78 OR 86, I TAKE THAT BACK, THE SNOW CRITERIA IN THE 78 ORDINANCE REGARDING RECORD ELEVATIONS OF STORMWATER SIDE SLOPES. THE 99 ORDINANCE DOES HAVE HER.

PER SIDE SLOPES THERE'S NO SUCH REQUIREMENT IN THE 78 ORDINANC .

THE 86 ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE, DOES INCLUDE MATERIAL REGARDING STORMWATER SIDE SLOPES IT'S EITHER 1-2-3 OR WANT TO DO GRADIENT. THE CRITERIA AND AGAIN TO THE EXTENT THOSE UNITS CONSTRUCTED OR FACILITIES CONSTRUCTED AFTER 1986 POTENTIAL THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY IF THOSE DON'T MEET THOSE CRITERIA TO ADDRESS THAT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION. I THINK THE LAST ITEM IS MAINTENANCE.

AS I POINT OUT IN THE DOCUMENT I PREPARED BOTH 1986 AND CURRENT ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE 78 ORDINANCE REQUIRED THOSE PIPES INSTALLED BE MAINTAINED. THE EXTENT THE FACILITIES PRESENT ARE NOT BE MAINTAINED THAT LACK OF MAINTENANCE HAS CAUSED ANY TYPE OF ISSUE THAT COUNTY WOULD HAVE BASED ON INSPECTION, DOCUMENTATION, LACK OF MAINTENANCE THAT IS CAUSING FLOODING ISSUES TO ADDRESS THAT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. DOING TO IT ONE LAST THING WHICH MR. HAD PUT IN HIS REPORT AND ALSO ONE FOR SLIDES THERE IS A GENERAL CRITERIA THAT LEAVE ALSO IN THE 1986 ORDINANCE THAT IS UPON COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION THE SUBDIVISION SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO FLOODING, DRAINAGE, EROSION FOR THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. IT IS IN MY JUDGMENT IN GENERAL CRITERIA THAT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED THROUGH SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT INCLUDED THE 78 ORDINANCE AND THE 86 ORDINANCE OR THE NIGHT ORDINANCE. AS YOU CAN SEE THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE GONE ON THE DESIGN STORM --THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE STRICT AND MORE THOROUGH BUT AT ANY PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME THERE'S ORDINANCE THAT GETTING YOUR APPROVALS UNDER THOSE CRITERIA AND THE MAP YOU SUBMIT AND THE DECISION OF THE COUNTY WOULD ESTABLISH A CONSTRUCTION PLAN, IF YOU WILL, DRAINAGE PLAN THAT WILL MEET THIS GENERAL CRITERIA. THIS ISN'T IN MY JUDGMENT DOESN'T PROVIDE THE COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A JUDGMENT OVER THE YEARS IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE FLOODING ON THE DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED BY MR. HAMSTRA IS A DIRECTOR, TO THE SUBDIVISION WHAT IS A REQUIREMENT NOW? MAYBE WHAT WE PRESUME THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STORMWATER CONTROL AND 78 OR 86 OR 99 IS NOT THE STANDARD WE OPERATE UNDER.

THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING MEANING THE GENERAL CRITERIA IS DONE TO MEET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE 10 TIME. AT THE TIME USING SPECIFIC GRANDFATHERING AS LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN WHAT YOU GOT YOU DON'T NEED TO NEED TO MEET THE NEW

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ORDINANCE CRITERIA. AGAIN, I WANT TO THROW THAT CAUTION TO SAY SIMPLY WE SIMPLY LEVEL AT MARSH LANDING DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE STANDARDS IF THEY WERE PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED IN CONSTRUCTION OCCURRED WE NOW WE JUST DISREGARD SO WITH THAT WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. FLOWERS.

>> NOW MAYBE A GOOD TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PROCEDURALLY.

>> DOING IT DOES NEED REPRESENTATIVES?

>> I WILL DEFER TO MR. TAYLOR.

>> THE MASTER ASSOCIATION HAS A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE FOR THEIR ENGINEER AND THEN THEY WERE HOPING TO HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ASSOCIATION SPEAK FIRST.

WE ARE TWO SPEAKERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK AFTER.

>> THE ENGINEER HAS 10 MINUTES AND THE HOA WANTS AN ADDITIONAL 10 MINUTES?

>> THE OTHER THREE SPEAKERS WANT THREE MINUTES.

>> THE LITIGANTS HAD THEY SPITTED A REQUEST?

>> THEY HAVE NOT. >> IN THE INTEREST OF MITIGATING THE SAME PROCEDURALLY AMUSING ALL DAY OF THE TAFT THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ENGINEER IS AT THE MASTER BOARD? , SPEAK FIRST 10 MINUTES FROM THE MASTER BOARD FIRST. AFTER WHICH WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT EVERYBODY WILL THEN GET THREE MINUTES.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I WILL NOT NEED TENDONS. MY NAME IS ERIC I'M AN ENGINEERING 6279 STATION EAST FLORIDA --THE BOARD HAS ASKED ME TO ELABORATE ON THE OVERALL PROCESS BEGINNING WITH THE START OF THIS MORNING TO THESE THINGS IMPORTANT HISTORICALLY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND. THIS ALL STARTED AND A COMPLAINT WAS FILED WITH WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CLAIMING THAT MARSH LANDING PONDS WERE SURELY THE FLOODING OF CERTAIN RESIDENTS AT MARSH LANDING. DISTRICT WENT OUT AND TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND ACKNOWLEDGED CERTAIN PLANS DID NOT HAVE A PERMIT AND THERE SOME SILTATION IN THE SPERM PLANS.

USUALLY HIRED ME TO INVESTIGATE --WE WENT UP TO THE PLATE WITH THE DISTRICT DEVOTED TO BE THROUGH THE SILTATION WE SUBMITTED AND NOT OF ANY ORIGINALLY PERMITTED SHE.

DID WAS TOPOGRAPHICALLY THE MASTER SURVEY WE COMPARED THE RESULTS OF THE ORIGINAL PERMIT.

THE ORIGINAL PERMIT REQUIRED THAT MARSH LANDING PROVIDE ONE POINT MILLION CUTE FEET OF STORAGE AND CURRENTLY IS USED THEY HAVE 1.1 MILLION CUBIC FEET.

MARSH LANDING IS AT A CROSSROADS. THEY COULD GO BACK IN THE INTEREST AND DREDGE OUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE POUNDS AND TURN IT UNDER IT.

HUGE LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE FOR THE POSITIVE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT IN THE HOMES.

THE SECOND OPTION WAS TO MODIFY THE PERMIT AND FIND A CREATIVE SOLUTION TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THE STORM WATER SYSTEM WAS IN COMPLIANCE. WE CHOSE OPTION TWO.

THE PERMIT WAS MODELED IN 19 BEFORE THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THE STORMWATER MODELING SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY AND PUT INTO STORMWATER CREDIT AND SURE ENOUGH THE SYSTEM FUNCTIONS ADEQUATELY. WE MADE SOME DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS SPECIFICALLY AROUND POND 88 TWO GET SOME CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING.

MR. HAMSTRA TALKED ABOUT FLOODING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IN THE AREA OF POND 88 THE 25 YEAR STORMWATER WAS HALF A FOOT IT WAS THE BEST WE CAN DO FOR THE UPSTREAM PONDS.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND FILED WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT LOCATION OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT

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OBVIOUSLY NECESSITATED MODIFICATION AND IT WAS APPROVED.

DUE TO OUR WORK THE RECIPIENT THEY TURNED INTO THE FLORIDA BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER FOR MALICIOUS NEGLIGENCE. I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY STRESSFUL AND VERY, VERY TEDIOUS PROCESS WITH THE FLORIDA BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING THEY SAY YOU'RE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. FURTHER INVESTIGATION THE STATE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR OUT OF TAMPA FLORIDA LOOKED AT THIS AND AUTOMATICALLY THROUGHOUT THE ERRONEOUS CHARGE OF NEGLIGENCE AND ALSO IN FACT THEY LOOK ALL THE OLD PERMIT DRAWINGS IN PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND THE WHOLE PROCESS IN GENERAL AND COMMENTED THEY DID THE BEST JOB AND ANYTIME YOU TRY TO PROVE 30-YEAR-OLD YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS YOU NEVER CAN HAVE A PERMIT SOLUTION. THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THE SAME THING IN HIRING MR. HAMSTRA AND HERE WE ARE LATER WITH THE REPORT. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS INSIDE THE REPORT WE ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND JUST MAKE SENSE THE MAINTENANCE COULD PRACTICE ETC.. HOWEVER, TAYLOR ENGINEERING WE WORK WITH DIRECTORS FROM MARSH LANDING WE IDENTIFIED 27 SEPARATE ITEMS THAT WE FEEL ARE INACCURATE.

THEY'RE NOT NEEDED BASED ON THE ITEMS OF THE MEMO FROM LAST SUMMER.

IF WE IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MR. HAMSTRA SUGGESTING WOULD ACTUALLY EXACERBATE THE ISSUE AND SPECIFICALLY ALL THE FREEBOARD REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED BEEN SHOWN ALL THESE PONDS. PHYSICALLY FOR POND 88 TO 12 INCHES OF FREEBOARD THE TOP BANK WOULD NOW BE HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING GRADE AND THAT WOULD PREVENT FROM WATER GETTING INTO POND 88 AND EXACERBATE FLOODING CONDITIONS.

WITH THAT WE HUMBLY REQUEST THESE 27 ITEMS HAVE NOT BEEN CIRCULATED TO STAFF TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL RIGHT NOW WHEN DO AT A SERVICE WITH AN EXPEDITIOUS PROCESS WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT OUR 27 CONCERNS AND BALANCE THAT WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MR. FLOWERS ON WHAT MARSH LANDING IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO. MARSH LANDING IS WILLING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU AND I'LL BE BACK QUESTIONS LATER SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> AFTERNOON TINSLEY OAKLAWN COURT. A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

I HAVE A FRIEND GETTING INVOLVED BACK AND FORTH I TURNED MR. ARMAND AND HE DID NOT TURN THE SURVEYS AND I WILL GLAD TO BE PROVIDE THE SERVICE. SO THERE IS NO PLOT FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS AT ALL IN MARSH LANDING. HE WAS CLEARLY INCORRECT.

I THINK BEFORE YOU GET THE WHOLE STORY I COULD PROVIDE THAT REPORT TO IT 71 PAGES YOU CAN READ IT YOURSELF. I PROMISED MYSELF I WOULD NOT DO IT BUT I HAVEN'T, HAVE TO DEFEND MYSELF.IRST OF ALL, I'M NOT A LAWYER. MR. FLOWERS CLEARLY SAYS AN ADDITION AS NOTED ABOVE THERE'S A RECORD SHOWING ACKNOWLEDGMENT IF NOT APPROVAL BY THE DCC TO CONSTRUCT ROADWAYS WELL DRAINAGE THAT'S WHY MR. DEAN A FOUR MINUTE PRESENTATION A CLEARLY SAYS THERE NEEDS TO BE SWELLS IN THE FRONT AND NEEDS TO BE SWELLS AND DECIDE IF YOU'RE NOT THERE IS A PROBLEM. THAT'S A LEGAL AND BINDING DOCUMENT THAT SAYS IF NOT APPROVAL AND THERE IN EVERY SINGLE POD. I'M NOT A LAWYER NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH EVERYBODY WAS AT THE MAGISTRATE DECIDE WHERE THIS DOCUMENT HENRY SEEMS TO LIKE MR. FLOWERS AND RESPECT HIM AND I RESPECT HENRY SO HENRY RESPECT HIM I RESPECT HIM.

IT'S ALL A BIG CIRCLE. CLEARLY, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT YOU GAVE THIS TO US AND TOLD US THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SWELLS THERE. I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO EXPLAIN THAT, IF HE COULD. SECOND OF ALL HE FAILS TO MENTION THAT THE ACTUAL 99 ORDINANCES IF THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN ALTERED HE MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

THEY KNOW IT, MR. HAMSTRA KNOWS THAT THERE ARE 27 THINGS THAT ALTERNATIVE TO THE SYSTEM THAT'S IDENTIFIED AT THE BOTTOM THIS IS ALL SYSTEMS MUST BE MAINTAINED.

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THEY JUST NOW SAID THE SYSTEM IS NOT MAINTAINED. MR. FLOWERS SAYS THE SYSTEM IS NOT MAINTAINED THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR. LASTLY, FOR MY LAST 45 SECONDS THESE ARE JUST FACTS, GUYS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS THEY ARE STEALING MY PROPERTY.

THEY ARE STORING WATER ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS PROPERTY AND I THINK THAT'S OKAY.I PAID $950,000 FOR THAT HOME AND THEY ARE USING MY PROPERTY, MY PROPERTY AS A DAMN BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO CHEAP TO BUILD UPON THAT THEY ARE SHORT. MR. HAMSTRA KNOWS THERE ARE 25-50 FEET SHORT THAT ARE USING THIS LEGAL OPINION WITH THIS EASEMENT THIS IS THE OWN MY PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT FLORIDA THIS IS LIKE CALIFORNIA, WE OWN OUR PROPERTIES. THEY ARE STEALING OUR LAND THAT'S OUR HOMES, THAT'S OUR PROPERTY THEY ARE STORING THEIR WATER ON. YOU CAN DO THAT AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY YEP 10 ORDINANCE FOR IT. I CREATE THE TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. WHAT'S GOOD AFTERNOON.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOW ME TO SPEAK TODAY. I HAVE SOME ALLERGY ISSUES.

MY NAME IS RACHEL I'M A RESIDENT OF MARSH LANDING AT 2468 DEAR TRACE DRIVE.

I LIVED THERE FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS AND OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SEVERELY AFFECTED BY RECURRENT FLOODING ISSUES THAT CAUSE HARDSHIP TO MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS.

IT IS DISHEARTENING TO REALIZE THAT THESE ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED YET NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO REMEDY. THE STORM WATER SYSTEM ROADWAY DRAINAGE AND PUMP STATION AND A JOINT ONE NEEDED REPAIR AND RELATIONS IN ORDER TO PREVENT FURTHER DAMAGE TO OUR HOMES AND ENSURE OUR SAFETY. I EMPLOYED ALL PLEASE HELP US.

IT'S DISTRESSING TO KNOW TO KNOW OUR HOMES HAVE BEEN SPARED FROM FLOODING AND FROM FLOOD VENDORS MEASURES IF THEY WERE TAKEN BUT ONGOING DESTRUCTION CONTINUES DUE TO AN ACTION.

AND FROM A HUMANITARIAN PERSPECTIVE I KNOW YOU HAD BEEN TAKEN YOU BEEN LISTENING TO EXPERTS BUT I BEFORE YOU AS A MOTHER AND AS A PERSON WHO HAS ENDURED FOR STORMS NOW AND I CAN'T QUITE PUT INTO WORDS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE WHEN YOU WATCH WATER COME TO YOUR HOME WITH YOUR CHILDREN INSIDE NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO AND THE WORST PART ABOUT IT IS A DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN. MY REQUEST FOR YOU TODAY, AGAIN, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART THIS HUMANITARIAN ASPECT IS IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO HELP US JUST TO HAVE PEACE OF MIND WEEK SO WE CAN LAY OUR HEAD DOWN AT NIGHT WE APPRECITE IT.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? COME ON DOWN.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US GIVE A FEW THOUGHTS THIS AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BRUCE A RETIRED PHYSICIAN AND IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FLOODING IN MARSH LANDING NO ONE DISPUTES THAT.

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS FIRST OF ALL BROWN BRACKISH WATER SUBMERGES MY ENTIRE PROPERTY MY HOME IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARTY AND I GET 24 INCHES OF MUDDY WATER IN THE GARAGE.

THINGS ARE DONE OVER THAT YEAR ONLY TO FIND THE NEXT FLOODING. IN 2016, WATER ENTERED OUR HOME WHICH CAUSED A THREE-MONTH EVACUATION OF MY WIFE AND MYSELF.

DURING THE USUAL STORM AND A CALL THAT A USUAL STORM WE WATCHED THE WATER COME TO THE THRESHOLD OF OUR FRONT DOOR NOT KNOWING WHETHER IT'S GOING TO STOP.

FORTUNATELY, IT HAS STOPPED LAST TIME. IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS AFTER IRMA STARTED TO WONDER HOW CAN WE LIVE IT THEREFORE 30 YEARS? I MOVED INTO MARSH LANDING IN 1986 HOW DO WE GO FOR 30 YEARS WITH NO FLOODING? AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MAJOR FLOOD AND THEN EVERY YEAR AFTERWARDS SAME THING HAPPENIN .

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING MR. HAMSTRA HERE TO FINALLY AFTER THIS PUZZLE HAS SOLVED THE PUZZLE BITE METICULOUSLY MAPPING OUT THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND FOR MY PARTICULAR HOUSE. IN HOA ONE A VERY COGENT MAP OF THIS.

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THE ORIGINAL MAPS OF THE AREA AROUND MY HOUSE CONFIRM FIVE FEET HEIGHT AND I'M SURE THAT BERG WAS THERE BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THE WATER COMES FROM.

NOW THE BERM IS 1.1 SO I THINK THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL MAP THE BERM STARTED ERODING.

ONCE WATER FLOWING OVER THAT CAUSES EROSION NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROTECTION IN FLOODS EVERY TIME, BASICALLY. NOW, I WOULD NEVER TREAT A SERIOUS DISEASE WITHOUT A IMPROPER DIAGNOSIS. I THINK PATIENTS ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

LET ME FINISH BY SAYING EVERY SUMMER BEFORE THE HURRICANE I WORK THIS WILL BE THE ONE.

THAT WILL COMPLETELY INUNDATE MY HOME AND MY NEIGHBORS AND I MEAN BEEN PATIENT WITH THE DELAYS KNOWING HERE'S ANOTHER FLOODING.

>> WELL, THANKS AGAIN. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GO OVER A FEW ITEMS FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE OUR DEEPEST REQUEST FOR THE FLOODING THAT'S GOING ON UNEQUIVOCALLY.

>> PARDON?

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> YES, SECONDLY, I'M SORRY.

I DID NOT HEAR YOU. GREG 105 DEERFIELD ROAD, MARSH LANDING.

PHYSICALLY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR RESIDENTS AND LITIGANTS PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE OTHER 24 RESIDENTS AND MARSH LANDING. MARSH LANDING IS A PRETTY SAFE COMMUNITY ON THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY'S FOLKS YOU TALK ABOUT THE FOUR STORMS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH WERE NEVERGOING TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE HURRICANE STORM SURGE .

WE WISH WE COULD WE TALK TO ENGINEERING COMPANIES AND SIMPLY NOT FEASIBLE.THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN TWO CONTEXT IS THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ESPECIALLY MR. DEAN THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM BUILT TO HELP US WITH 25 YEAR BRAINSTORM EVENTS NEVER HURRICANE OR A TITLE SEARCH. RECENTLY CAN'T DO THAT.

IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A 40-YEAR-OLD SYSTEM. PWE ARE THE FIRST TO ADMIT IT I A WORK IN PROGRESS. WE WORK WITH ST. JOHNS RIVER AND WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CONTINUALLY TO TRY TO THE SYSTEM AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE AND AS GOOD AS EXPECTED WITH OTHERS RUNNING LIKE COMMUNITIES. THAT'S IMPORTANT. MR. HAMSTRA SAID LESS THAN A YEAR AGO THE 200 OR MORE RESIDENTS HOMES THAT HAVE FLOODED UNFORTUNATELY THIS WAS DUE TO HURRICANE STORM AND A TITLE SURGE THIS IS NOT DUE TO OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. NOW, CONTEXT FOR MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO HIM HE IS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER HE GETS IT BUT THERE ARE OVERREACHES WE TALKED ABOUT INACCURACIES AND OTHER SITUATIONS REGARDING THE REPORT THAT NEED TO BE HELD IN CONTEXT ESPECIALLY THE ITEMS THAT MAY BE OUT OF ORDINANCE FOR WHAT YOU WOULD ASK FOR SIMILAR COMMUNITIES.WE DO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT. LASTLY, WE DO ASK YOU ALLOW US TO WORK WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. LET US SET THE TIME SCHEDULES OF THE BERMS THEY ARE HIGH-PRIORITY FOR US BUT SOMEONE HAS BEEN DELAYED WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. LET US WORK WITH THE WATER DISTRICT AND BUDGET IS OUT AND AGAIN DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROTECT A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. AGAIN, HURRICANE STORM TITLE SURGE THERE'S NO PROMISE WE CAN'T WORK WITH THAT.SO LIKE FOR TRIP RICHLAND TO STEP UP AND PETER REGARDING SOME OF THE FINANCES THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

GREAT DEAL 105 DEERFIELD ROAD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS PETER AND I RESIDE AT 24476 HARBORVIEW DRIVE.

VERY BRIEFLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS CURRENTLY AND OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS MARSH LANDING IS AND WILL SPEND OVER $3 MILLION ON THE MAINTENANCE

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OF OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS MARYLAND MCAFEE ELLET 24 700 DEAR TRACE DRIVE IN MARSH LANDING .

I'M A RETIRED SERVICE OFFICER. THIS IS MY HOME FOR OVER 25 YEARS AND I LOVE LIVING THERE BUT THERE ARE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THEM. THEY ARE NOT WITHOUT FIXES AND I HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US IN URGING THOSE FIXES BE UNDERTAKEN.

I LIVE BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE POND. AND YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITH THE POND. I NEVER SAW THE POND LOWERED AFTER ANY MAJOR HURRICANE AND WE ARE VICTIMIZED AS WELL BY HEAVY RAIN. A HURRICANE IS A RAIN AND WIND EVENT AT THE OVER STORMS HERE THAT BRING SUDDEN SURGES OF WATER AND THAT IS A SOURCE PROBLEM FOR ME. THEY RECENTLY REPAVED THE ROAD I TOLD YOU ON BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE POND SO THE ROAD WATER NEEDS TO GET TO THE POND BUT THERE IS NO CONVEYANCE SYSTEM, NO SIR, NO GUTTER, NO WAY FOR THE WATER TO SAFELY GET BEYOND MY PROPERTY FROM THE ROAD TO THE POND SO I AM SURROUNDED BY WATER AND HEAVY RAIN STORMS. I THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO DEAL WITH THIS AND I THINK, I HOPE, THE MASTER ASSOCIATION WILL UNDERTAKE TO TAKE ACTION AND IMPROVE THE SITUATION. IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND YOURS TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. WE ARE NOT MAKING UNREASONABLE DEMANDS BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR VERY SERIOUS SITUATIONS REMEDIED BY THOSE IN CHARGE.

IN THIS CASE THE MASTER BOARD ONE WHERE I LIVE AND IN SUPPORTING OUR MEETING REMEDIAL ACTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. 961 GREATLY. LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THE MARSH LANDING PROPERTY HISTORY WITH WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. HROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THE ASSOCIATION HAS ALWAYS REMAINED RESPECT FOR AND PROFESSIONAL. THE ASSOCIATION HAS ALWAYS WORKED TO CONTINUE WITH THE COUNTY AND ENGINEERS THIS INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TO OBTAIN PERMITS NECESSARY TO COORDINATE MAINTENANCE EFFORTS SO THE COMMUNITY MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION THE MEDICATIONS HAVE BEEN PERMITTED BY THE COUNTY IN FACT MOST RECENT WORK WAS THE ONLY PERMITTED BUT VIEWED BY THE COUNTY INSPECTOR . THIS HAS ALL BEEN CONFIRMED BY THE DISTRICT.

I ASSURE EVERYONE WE CONTINUE TO REMAIN COMPLIANT AND WORK WITH THE APPROPRIATE ENTITIES.

THIS DECISION HAS SCHEDULED ENHANCEMENTS FOR THE EXISTING RESERVE STUDY AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROVE AS TECHNOLOGIES BECOME AVAILABLE. WE APPRECIATE THE COUNTY WITH THE HELP OF THE COUNTY STAFF AND MEASURES, EXCUSE ME, TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY CODES AND REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ORDINANCE. ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S ONE THING WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS JUST DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITY WE SPOKEN ON THIS TRYING TO HELP OTHERS OTHERS UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY.

WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE INDIVIDUAL SO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO THE REQUIREMENTS TAKING CARE OF THERE'S ALSO A RESPONSE LIKE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE HAS TO MAINTAIN THEIR LIVES AND BE ABLE TO HAVE --SOME TO BE CONVERGED WITHOUT PUBLICATION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. 108 ALICE WAY. A LOT OF IT SAID WHAT IS ON THE REPORT AND WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG. I'M HERE TO SAY WAS NOT IN THE REPORT. WE HAVE BEEN COMING HERE AGAIN AND AGAIN REQUESTING YOUR HELP

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TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM CAUSED BY THE WATER LEVELS. WE HAD MISSION COMING HERE TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES MASTER BOARD MEMBERS, AND AND THEY WERE FLABBERGASTED AT THE DAMAGE CAUSED AS REPORTS AS IS THE DIRE SITUATION. THE ACTION WAS THIS IS DOWNRIGHT DEPRESSING. AND QUITE DISTRESSFUL. I AM SURPRISED THE ENGINEER GOES ROUND AND LOOKS AT THE ENTIRE HOA? WOULD NOT SEE THE DAMAGE.

THERE'S NOTHING MENTIONED ABOUT THAT IN THE REPORT NOTHING MENTIONED THAT THE LOW POINT WATER AS COST AND I OWNED 100 PROPERTY 100 PEOPLE GIVEN US IN WRITING THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE CAUSED. HOW MUCH MONEY THEY ARE SPENDING, THEIR GRANDKIDS CAN'T USE THEM ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS. THEY ARE LOST SQUARE FEET OF LAND. I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED BECAUSE A PLUMBER CAME TO MY HOUSE TO CHANGE OF VALVE UNDER THE SINK AND HE SAW A PIPE WHICH WAS NOT LOOKING GOOD AND THE CHILI AND NEED TO REPLACE THAT PIPE. THAT'S A DANGER. AND I'M SURPRISED THE ENGINEER COULD NOT SEE ALL THESE PROBLEMS AND THEY WOULD SAY, YEAH, IT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT.

I WORKED WITH A LOT OF ENGINEERS AND MY LIFE IF AN ENGINEER SEES DAMAGE AND SEE IT AS A SAFETY HAZARD THEY DON'T CARE WHAT THE RESPONSE THEY WILL SAY THIS IS A PROBLEM.

I AM SURPRISED IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT. I HOPE I UNDERSTAND THIS REPORT IS ONLY A DRAFT I HOPE THAT THAT ITEM WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND ADDED TO THE REPORT BECAUSE THAT IS CAUSING SERIOUS PROBLEM TO A 100 PROPERTIES AND HOA 2 PEOPLE ALREADY SPENT OVER $250,000 TO FIX THE PROPERTIES. AND COULD RUN EASILY INTO MILLIONS. THE LAST POINT I WANT TO MAKE MY HOUSE ALSO HAS A LOT OF WATER FROM THE ROAD THE WATER COMES TO MY HOUSE. ALL HAD TO DO IS HAVE A FEW PIPES AROUND MY HOUSE THE WATER GOES BACK TO THE PONDS AND MY HOUSE MY FRONT YARD.

THE 15 MINUTES AFTER THE RAIN STOPS. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS THE HOMEOWNERS AND FIX THE PROPERTY BUT MANY OF US HAVE DONE IT NOT JUST ME.

MANY HOMEOWNERS HAVE DONE IT. THERE IS A SOLUTION TO THE HOMEOWNER PROBLEM.

BUT I HOPE THAT THE REPORT GETS MODIFIED TO INCLUDE OUR PROBLEMS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> MELISSA FISHER 237 LAKESIDE CIRCLE. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP THERE ARE STILL OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ORDINANCES VIOLATED THAT BEEN THERE SINCE 2018 THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FLOODING BACK TO THE ROADS MISSING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO FORTH SOME REQUESTING THOSE VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN SINCE 2019 ALL LOOKED INTO. THEY DO PERTAIN TO WHAT MR. FLOWERS WAS TALKING ABOUT.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO READ ALSO FROM WAYNE FLOWERS SESSION HOLD ON SO YOU ALL CAN SEE YOU DOWN HERE IN SECTION 6.04 REQUIRES ALL DRAINAGE FACILITIES BE CONTINUOUSLY MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FAILURE TO DO SO IS A VIOLATION OF THE CODE.

HE DID SPEAK OF MAINTENANCE OUR SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED. IT WAS SPOKEN OF BY MR. RICHLAND THAT OUR COVENANTS RESTRICTION STATEMENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROAD WATER, THAT'S NOT TRUE. THE ORIGINAL DOES NOT STATE THAT THAT WAS LATER IN THE DATE. IF WE CANNOT BE HELD, SOMETHING CANNOT BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD LATER IN THE ORDINANCE UPDATE WE CAN'T UPGRADE THE COMMENTS RESTRICTIONS TO SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE WHAT THE ORIGINALLY STATED, AS WELL.

THEY NEVER STATED WERE SUPPOSED TAKE WATER FROM THE ROAD. I DON'T LIVE NEAR A BODY OF WATER SO THAT IS A FALSE STATEMENT I WOULD SAY. VERY CLEARLY.

WE CAN PROVIDE WE PROVIDED YOU SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST OUR BOARD MEMBERS WITH THOSE COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS THAT HAVE NOT STATED THAT WERE SUPPOSED TAKE WATER FROM THE ROAD THAT WAS AN UPDATED STATEMENT. BY THE BOARD.

MY NEXT POINT IS THAT MR. FLOWERS DID STATE AND HIS ORIGINAL OPINION IN ADDITION AS NOTED ABOVE THERE IS RECORD SHOWING ACKNOWLEDGMENT IF NOT APPROVAL BY THE BCC OF THE DEVELOPER'S INTENTION TO CONSTRUCT ROADWAYS WITH NOT CURB AND GUTTER WHICH UNDERSTAND UNITS FIVE THROUGH NINE THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS 86 ON 86 ORDINANCE THAT HAS MORE

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THAN ONE EXTRA ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED AND ONE OF THOSE MAIN THINGS AS AN AS BUILT IS REQUIRED THE DRAWINGS AS BUILT DRAWINGS OF THE ROAD AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS WE DON'T HAVE THOSE. THAT WAS REQUIRED AND 86. THERE IS FOR ITEMS EXTRA ITEMS THAT WERE SUPPOSED BE FOLLOWED, AS WELL. SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT. THOSE FOR EXTRA ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT THE BERMS ARE AS LOW AS 1.1 IN CERTAIN AREAS AND 1.1 SO WATER COMES OUT OF THE PONDS I'M NOT QUITE SURE FEMA WOULD LIKE THAT OUR PROPERTIES ARE FLOODING PRIOR TO A STORM AND WHAT REQUIRES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> MA'AM, COULD YOU GIVE YOUR PAPERS TO THE ATTORNEY, THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. AMY 124 DEAR STATE LANE AND MARSH LANDING. I WAS LIKELY TO SPEAK BUT WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT MRS. FISHER JUST POINTED OUT ON THESE VIOLATIONS. THOSE WERE WARNINGS THIS IS FROM YOUR WEBSITE OF ALL OF THE TICKETS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATED AND PUT UNDER ONE PRIVATE TICKET AND ONE OF THEM AS YOU SEE AS YOU READ UP ON THE DATES THAT HAVE ALL BEEN REFERRED TO ALL THE LITIGATION HAS SETTLED, THE DEVIL HARRY IS SETTLED SO THERE'S NO OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS.

I JUST EXPLORE THE FACTS, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO? SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I KNOW MR. HAMSTRA ASKED FOR 10 MINUTES SO WILL HAVE MR. HAMSTRA RESPONSE.

>> THIS WILL BE QUICK TO ALL APPLICABLE IT IS TO CLEAN UP. NUMBER ONE HUNDRED 88 THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR FREEBOARD CRITERIA ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION GET THE POND LARGER AND GET THEM DOWN LOWER LIKE A SECOND LAYER.

POND 88 IS A NO-BRAINER AND WATER ON MULTIPLE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY HAS BEEN FOR THE --MAKE THE PONDS LARGER DO SOMETHING TO FIX THEM. I DID SAY IN JUNE 22 THE SYSTEM WAS LOST WHAT I MEANT THAT THE PUMP STATION WAS LOST. THE EXTRA PARTS AND THE MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO GET UP AND RUNNING I MEAN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS ROBUST.

I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT I WILL TEMPER MY MOOD THE POND LEVELS ARE AT THE PERMITTED ORIGINAL DESIGN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT GET A PERMIT FOR THE ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT GET OF WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE IT. I DID THE TASK FROM THE KAYLEE WAS NOT TO ARGUE THE WATER LEVELS BECAUSE REALLY AT THE LEVELS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT MINUTE BY THE DISTRICT. LASTLY, THE SIDE SLOPE THERE WAS CONFUSION ON THE CRITERIA WHEN YOU GO TO THE POND SLIDE SLOPE THE SWELLS AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE--OF THIS WELL IN THE-- THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP OR MAYBE HAS BEEN CLEANED UP THE 3 TO 1 INTO DOING TO DO THIS WELL OR THE DITCH NOT SPECIFICALLY ON 88 MAKE A BIGGER OR FIX IT, THE ROBUST SYSTEM WAS MEETING THE PUMP STATION NUMBER TWO IN THE CONTROL LEVEL IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND THEN LASTLY THE FLOOD. I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE LANES OR THE COUNTIES MIND THE HAVE TO BE PUT IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WE ARE PUTTING THESE PEOPLE AT RISK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> LET ME SAY THIS FOR PEOPLE THAT DISAGREE BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU MR. HAMSTRA FOR YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE PROVIDING US WITH TODAY'S PRESENTATION LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.

>> MR. CHAIR, AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THERE ARE SOME ACTIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT WAS REFERENCED WITH STAFF HAS GOTTEN FEEDBACK ON WHAT MAY BE ENFORCEABLE AND I THINK THOSE STAFF WILL FOLLOW UP ON THEIR ORDINARY COURSE OF BUSINESS I WANT TO POINT THAT

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OUT FOR THOSE WE WERE TOLD IF YOU WILL SOME OF THIS INFORMATION? STAFF AS PART OF THE NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURE WILL BE ADDRESSING THOSE BASED ON THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RECEIVED.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN .

>> JUST ASKED DAVID WANT TO SAY SEVERAL THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN WE ENGAGE MR. HAMSTRA LAST APRIL A YEAR AGO I WAS VERY CONFIDENT HE WOULD BE VERY OBJECTIVE AND WELL-WRITTEN AND WELL THOUGHT OUT REPORT AND I HAVE NOT BEEN DISAPPOINTED.

I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS VERY EXCELLENT WORK WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR SOME TIME THIS IS NOT HEAT IT DOES NOT SURPRISE ME AND HE GAVE AN EXCELLENT REPORT.

BOTH ALL THAT UP I SAY WHEN FLOWERS WHO HAVE ALSO KNOWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME MADE AN EXCELLENT MEMORANDUM. HERE IS MY POINT TOGETHER WE CAN TAKE THESE MEMORANDUM AND MISSION WITH DAVID HAMSTRA'S REPORT CITED THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF MARSH LANDING AND I THINK THAT OUR STAFF NOW AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT A YEAR AND HALF AGO AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE REASON I'M NOT GOING TO DWELL ON WHAT THEY DECIDED IS OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS HIRED IN 21 MR. (NAME?) AND DAVID AND TO SET UP A WHOLE NEW STAFF ATTORNEYS AND REALLY GET HIS HANDS ON THIS AND WE WERE FACING ALL THE LEGAL ISSUES MARSH LANDING WAS BRING TO OUR ATTENTION I THINK WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION TO ENGAGE WAYNE FLOWERS HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ENGAGE MR. HAMSTRA WITH COMMENTS ON MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT.

MY QUESTION FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH GUIDANCE FROM MR. FLOWERS AND MR. HAMSTRA IN THEIR REPORTS TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHATEVER ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OR WHATEVER PRIDE IS OUTSTANDING AND RESPOND ALONG WITH THE MINISTRY OF STAFF TO THE POINTS RAISED FROM MR. FLOWERS AND MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORTS?

>> YES, I BELIEVE SO. IT WILL INCLUDE ENFORCEMENT STAFF AS NEEDED IN THE COMING WEEKS BUT THIS GUIDANCE IS VERY HELPFUL TO PROCEED WITH THE ISSUES AND WE DO HAVE THE

JURISDICTION TO ADDRESS. >> FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT I WOULD LIKE TO GO THIS AFTERNOON IF YOU THINK THAT THE STAFF UNDER YOUR DIRECTION DO YOU THINK YOUR STAFF WILL NOT HAVE THE ENGINEERING INFORMATION AND ALSO WE HEARD FROM MR. FLOWERS TO PROCEED WITH ANY ALLEGED VIOLATIONS UNDERNEATH PRIVATE TICKETS THAT WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH AND GET THEM DISPOSED OF EITHER WAY EITHER OUR VIOLATION UNDER OUR COAT ALL THIS IS SUBJECT TO OUR ORDINANCES NOT SOME GENERAL THOUGHT WE MAY HAVE SOME FLOODING PROBLEM AND NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

WE MODEL OUR ORDINANCE AND IF WE DO THAT AND SUBJECT TO THE INPUT THESE GUYS WE ARE CONFIDENT YOUR STAFF NOW AT THE DALTON. THE ASSIGNMENT?

>> YES, SIR. TO ALLOW FURTHER ON THAT YOU HIT ON THE OPERATIVE WORD WHICH IS ALWAYS COUNTIES CODE AND JURISDICTION THOSE THINGS THAT FALL UNDER THE COUNTIES AND SUPPORTED BY THE SUPPORT FROM THE REPORT FROM MR. HAMSTRA AND MR. FLOWERS IS FILLED WITH LEGAL ABOUT THE OPEN PRIDE TO WORK WITH THE HOA ONE AND HOA 2 TO RESOLVE ISSUES OVER TIME WORKING TO BRING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE THAT MAY OVER THE COPIES PLANS AND JURISDICTION.

YES, SIR. IS THE SHORT ANSWER TO QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU. WE CAN AS A COMMISSION TO GIVE THE NECESSARY GUIDANCE AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF TO RESOLVE ALL ISSUES OUTSTANDING IN AN OBJECTIVE, FAIR, REASONABLE AND FAIR WAY. THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU GUYS.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION WE NEED TO TAKE TODAY I THINK AS WE DISCUSSED.

BUCKS YET, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE I JUST WISH EVERYONE THE VERY BEST ON ALL THE ISSUES. BEST OF LUCK, THANK YOU.

[3. Public Hearing * REZ 2022-28 Douglas Business Park]

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>> THE POSTEVENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. WANT TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. WHICH IS THE DOUGLAS BUSINESS PARK.

>> MR. CHAIR, THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL SO ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS DISCLOSURES.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> NONE >> COMMISSIONER NONE

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN >> NO

>> NOW WE ARE READY TO HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

>> BART OCEAN DRIVE SAINT AUGUSTINE. I AM RESENTING DOUGLAS BUSINESS. FOR REZONING.WHEN I GET THE THING GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I PRESENTLY BUSINESS PARK IS A LITTLE OVER 12 ACRES.

PORTIONS OF THE PRESUMED FOR HOUSING AND PORTIONS RESUMED ELBOW.

THE REQESTING EVERYTHING ZONED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. IT'S ROUGHLY 5.6 ACRES REQUESTING TO BE REZONED AS TO WAREHOUSING. PRESENTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY THE YELLOW IS THE WAREHOUSING AND THE OTHER ROAD UP TO THE DITCH BACKS UP AGAINST THE 312 EXTENSION COUNTY ROAD BUT IT DOES OF HIS PROPERTY.

THE ONLY AREA WE HAVE WHERE WE GET INTO DIFFERENT ZONING AREAS IF YOU LOOKED AT HIM RIGHT HERE IS A BLOCK WALL THAT COVERS THE SIDE WE HAVE 35 AREA BETWEEN WAS CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL THAT'S INSINCERE A SIX FOOT BLOCK WALL WE DISCUSSED WHEN WE ARE READY TO DO OUR BUILDINGS WE EXTEND THAT TO THE PROPERTY TO THE TEAM FOR REZONING AS IT COMES TO WAREHOUSING.

>> THAT'S YOUR STORY? I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> AT THIS TIME OF THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AS TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> BACK TO THE BOARD, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MAKE THE APPROVAL CONTINGENT? IS IT OKAY WITH YOU? IS THAT IN THE TEXT?

>> NO IT IS NOT. I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE BOARDS MOTION IS TO UPDATE THE DRAFT.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT KNOW YOU MEAN WHAT YOU SAY AND SAY WHAT YOU MEAN SO I WILL MAKE IT PART OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE. ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS IN DISTRICT 3 SO I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE 20/20. MOVED TO APPROVE REZ 2022-28 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY

[4. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2023-04 4301 Myrtle Street]

EXTENDED TO THE END OF THE PROPERTY.

>> YES, THIS IS >> THANK YOU THIS.

IS THERE A SECOND?

>> GIVE A PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT, UNTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ALSO QUASIJUDICIAL EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. I HAVE NONE. ARNOLD

>> NONE >> JOSEPH

>> NONE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS DANIEL NORTH BEACH, SAINT AUGUSTINE.

REQUESTING AN ON ZONING VARIANCE SECTION 6.02.01 POINT B .3 OF THE LAND VELVET COAT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF AN EASEMENT FOR ACCESS WITHIN THE PLATTED SUBDIVISION.

THE ORIGINAL NORTH PLATTE WAS DIVIDED INTO SIX LOTS WE DID CONFIRM THROUGH A PROCESS THAT

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WHICH WE MAINTAIN THE SIX LOTS THEY BE RECONFIGURED CERTAINLY BE CONSIDERED A REAL CONSIDERATION AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE AERIAL VIEW YOU SEE ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY THERE ARE TWO LINES THOSE REPRESENT SECOND STREET THAT WAS PART OF A NORTH BEACH PLAT SIMILARLY ALONG THE INTRACOASTAL YOU WILL SEE LINES THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER PORTION OF THE SLIDE OF THE AREA AND ACCESS EASEMENT WHICH IS ON THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH SO WE PLAN ON BUILDING A HOME ON LOT TO THAT WOULD BE ACCESSED BY THAT THERE ARE PROPERTY. SO IN SUMMARY, THERE ARE SIX LOTS ON THE PARCEL ALL THE LOTS ON THE PARCEL MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPING CODE THIS EASEMENT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE WATER FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION THE EASEMENT ITSELF IS THE DESIGN STATED SECTION 60 94 OF THE LAND VELVET COAT.MOVING TO STATEMENT OF FACTS --VACATED SECOND STREET AND BAY STREETS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PARCEL DIFFICULTY THIS ACCESS EASEMENT ADDRESSES THAT ISSUE.

THE AREA IS NOT BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT COST DOESN'T HAVE IMPACT ITEM C PROPOSED VARIANCE WILL NOT PROPOSE PUBLIC DANGER OF FIRE HAZARD THE DENSITY WILL BE NO ACTION ITEM C. ITEM D WOULD PROPOSED VARIANCE NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISH PROPERTY VALUES OR THIS POTENTIAL CHARACTER OF THIS RUNNING SITE. IT ACTUALLY HELPS TO ENHANCE THE PROPERTY VALUE AND AS TO THE CHARACTER OF THE SITE. SEVERAL EXAMPLES WE WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE LOT LINES DRAWN IN THE LAST SHAPES FOR THE MAXIMUM RETENTION OF THE PROPERTY IS BEAUTIFUL LIVE OAKS AND WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEM. FINALLY, ITEM E PROPOSED VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH THE CODE AND THE SUB AREAS OF THE CODE CONFIRMATION LETTER 23-30 THAT SHOWED THE RECONFIGURATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING PERSPECTIVE AND THE PROPOSED LOTS THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN ADDITION, THE ORIGINAL NORTH BEACH PLAT HAD SECOND STREET ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER AS ACCESS EASEMENT IT RESIDES COMPLETELY WITHIN THE STREET WITH THAT THAT ACCESS EASEMENT TO REACH THE NORTHWEST CORNER. AND THAT'S MY PREPARED STATEMENT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I CAN ANSWER THANK YOU FREE TIME.

>> ONLY COMMENT I HAVE ARE ANY NEIGHBORS HAVE A PROBLEM?

>> NO, I TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS EVERYONE WAS GOOD WITH IT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I WILL MOVE NUMBER FOUR. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE NON-ZONING VARIANCE 2023-04 4301 MYRTLE STREET REQUEST FOR NON-ZONING VARIANCE TO LAND VELVET COAT 6.02.01 POINT B .3 A TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF AN EASEMENT FOR

[5. Project Krew Economic Development Incentive Request]

ACCESS WITHIN THE PLATTED SUBDIVISION BASED ON SIX FINDINGS AND SUBJECT FIVE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. CAN YOU HEAR FROM MR. DAVID KIERNAN. GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. DAVID KIERNAN . I AM HERE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE FOR A CONFIDENTIAL PROJECT CALLED PROJECT KREW.

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I WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. PROJECT KREW IS A CODENAME FOR A LARGE-SCALE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING FACILITY. IT IS GOING TO OPEN FOURTH QUARTER 2025.

IT'LL BRING ABOUT 70 MILLION AND PROPERTY. MOST OF THAT BEING ROBOTICS EQUIPMENT. ALONG WITH GOOD JOBS WITH SUBSTANTIAL BENEFITS.

THE PROJECTS INDICATED THAT TO START THEY WOULD HAVE 116 JOBS. WE ESTIMATED THAT THOSE JOBS WOULD BE PROXIMALLY $8 MILLION TO START UP TO 222 MILLION ABOUT 31 MILLION GOING TO ABOUT 85 MILLION. TO SUMMARIZE THIS PROJECT AS PART OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TARGET BETWEEN MANUFACTURING AND LIFE SCIENCES BY A LARGE 150,000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT EXISTING. THE LAND USE CHANGES, HAS A PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED THAT'S 70 MILLION IN TANGIBLE PROPERTY TO PUT IN CONTEXT THAT'S 4 AND A HALF PERCENT OF OUR EXISTING TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT IS RELATIVELY SUBSTANTIAL AND IN ADDITION THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS I DESCRIBED BEFORE IT WOULD ALSO BE INDIRECT AND INDUCED BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS SPENDING AND SPENDING OF PERSONAL INCOMES. AND WHAT THE REQUEST IS IS FOR ABOUT 4.6 MILLION AND NINE YEARS AND THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PAY THEIR AD VALOREM AND IF THEY MEET THEIR EMPLOYMENT WE ESSENTIALLY REFUND THE MONEY AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

>> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU MR. KIERNAN. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ALL RIGHT, I WILL SAY THIS IS VERY EXCITING ESPECIALLY IN THESE TARGETED INDUSTRIES MANUFACTURING AND LIFE SCIENCE P. A $7 MILLION INCREASE TO THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED IN THIS COUNTY.

I'M OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT.

>> I ALSO CAREFUL ABOUT HOW IS IT IS I ALSO ASKED QUESTIONS EMPLOYEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AND NOT BRINGING THEM IN VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THAT ESPECIALLY TO THE POINT WHERE THE STUDENTS THAT ARE TRAINED AND LOOKING FOR ARE ALREADY GRADUATING.

I THINK THAT CERTAINLY BENEFIT.

>> WE KNOW ST. JOHN'S IS VERY TALENTED COMMUNITY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

[6. Second Reading of Ordinance Regarding Pablo Creek Boating Restricted Area]

>> I WILL MOVE. MOTION TO INSTRUCT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AGREEMENT FOR PROJECT APPROVED AND PLACED PROPOSED PLAN AGREEMENT CONSIDERATION FOR THE BOARD LATER REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.

>> GAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

PASSES 4-0. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MR. KIERNAN. RYAN, MR. KANE, WELCOME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. BRIAN KANE DIRECTOR PARKS AND RECREATION HERE TO PRESENT PABLO CREEK VOTING ORDINANCE SECOND READING TODAY. JUST A BACKGROUND AGAIN IN

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SEPTEMBER 2021 A FATALITY OCCURRED IN A BOATING INCIDENT PABLO CREEK UNDER THE SAN PABLO BRIDGE. THE COUNTY RECEIVED A WRITTEN REQUEST RESIDENTS TO ESTABLISH A RESTRICTED AREA AND PABLO CREEK AT THE BRIDGE. THE COUNTY HAS DETERMINED THAT THE BRIDGE IN THIS AREA OF A PABLO CREEK MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THE SLOW SPEED MINIMUM WAGE AREA.FIRST READING OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS AT THE APRIL 18, 40 COMMISSION MEETING. THE LOCATION IS IN THE NORTH EAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY OFF OF THE INTRACOASTAL AND HERE AND ALSO ADDITIONAL WITH A PICTURE OF THE BRIDGE ON THE SITE ST. JOHN'S OFFICE THANKFULLY DROVE OUT TO THE SITE WE KNOW IS NOT AN EASY ACCESS. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS TO ESTABLISH A SLOW SPEED MINIMUM WAKE BOATING RESTRICTION ON PPABLO CREEK AT THE SAN PABLO BRIDGE.HE KEY PROVISIONS WILL BE THE INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE OF SIGNAGE AND FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES TO BE SET BY SECTION 327 SEVEN. OF THE STATUTE. AND THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS FOR A MOTION TO ENACT THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SLOW SPEED MINIMUM WAKE ON PABLO CREEK AT THE SAN PABLO BRIDGE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. KANE. QUESTION FIRST MR. KANE. PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGEND ITEM NUMBER SIX.

. SEEING NONE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WELL THEN MR. KANE WHILE WE WAIT FOR COMMISSIONER DEAN.

YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR ME SING.

>> HAD TO ASK. WELCOME BACK, COMMISSIONER DEAN. NO PROBLEM, WHATSOEVER.

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COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, WHICH LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM?

[7. Consider appointments to the Library Advisory Board]

>> MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023-18 ESTABLISHING A MINIMUM WAKE BOATING PROTRUSION.

THE PUBLIC CREEK AT THE SAN PABLO RIDGE.