Apr 04, 2023 Board of County Commissioners

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>>> GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE SAINT JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

THERE ARE MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.

ONCE YOU FIND THE MEETING AGENDA YOU CAN CLICK ON THE ACCESS OF SUPPORTING MATERIALS. THE PUBLIC MAY BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON ANY AGENDA ITEM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

SHOULD THE PRESENTER HAVE EXHIBITS OR PHOTOGRAPHS PROVIDE THOSE MATERIALS TO THE CLERK AND COURT FOR INCLUSION INTO THE RECORD. AT THIS TIME PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE. >> CHAIR WHITEHURST.

>> CHAIR VICE ARNOLD. >> MR. ALAIMO.

>> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER HENRY DEAN.

>> PRESENT. >> ALL RIGHT.

NOW IS THE TIME THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE HEARING THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALI -- PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

FORGIVE ME. I DON'T SEE WHO IS LEADING US TODAY IN OUR INVOCATION. EVERYBODY PLEASE STAND AND JOIN

ME. >> WHAT A GREAT WEEK THIS IS.

A COUPLE DAYS AGO CELEBRATING PALM SUNDAY.

AS WE COME UP TO I THINK PASS -- PASS OVER WHEN GOD LEAD MOSES -- LEAD ISRAEL OUT AND JESUS HAD THE LAST SUPPER AND WAS BETRAYED AND WAS TAKEN AND BEATEN. I BRING YOU TO THE PART IN MATTHEW WHERE THE BIBLE SAYS IN THE SIXTH HOUR THERE WAS DARKNESS INTO THE 9TH HOUR. IN THE 9TH HOUR JESUS CRIED OUT IN A LOUD VOICE, MY BOOED, MY -- MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME. YOU FIND A BLANK SPACE BEFORE THE NEXT VERSE BEGINS. I ALWAYS THINK THAT'S WHERE MY NAME BELONGS. THAT'S WHERE HE DIED FOR US.

THAT'S NOT WHERE IT ENDS. CHAPTER 28, BEHOLD THERE WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE AND THE ANGEL OF THE LORD CAME AND ROLLED BACK THE STONE FROM THE DOOR AND SAT UPON IT.

FOR FEAR OF HIM THEY SHAKE AND BECAME A DEAD MAN.

HE SAID TO THE WOMAN, FEAR NOT YE FOR I KNOW YE SEEK JESUS WHICH IS CREWS SIDE. CRUCIFIED.

HE IS NOT HERE. HE IS RISEN.

COME AND SEE THE PLACE WHERE THE LORD LAY.

LET US PRAY. OUR MOST GRACIOUS AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS WEEK AND WE REMEMBER THAT YOU LOVED US SO MUCH THAT YOU SENT YOUR SON, JESUS, TO DIE ON THE CROSS AND RISE FROM THE DEAD. TODAY, GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOUR THRONE AND THANK YOU FOR JOHN PAYTON, DEAR LORD AND HIS LIFE AND HIS SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, LORD, AND TO OUR COUNTRY. THANK YOU FOR HIS HUNDREDTH BIRTHDAY. FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO WORKED SO HARD TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. WE KNOW THERE IS SO MUCH EVIL IN THIS WORLD THAT WANTS TO HURT OUR CHILDREN AND THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING THEM. WE PRAY YOU PROTECT US, LORD, AND WE THINK ABOUT THE EVIL THAT COMES IN THIS WORLD, GOD, THAT HURTS PEOPLE IN TERRIBLE WAYS AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS US AS WE REMEMBER SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH.

THANK YOU THAT WE SEE OUR POLICE IN THE STREET AND THE FIREMEN IN THE STREET, DEAR GOD, WHO DO AMAZING WORK.

WE FORGET BEHIND THE SCENES THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TAKE PAUSE ON PEOPLE'S WORST DAYS. WE THANK YOU AND PRAY THAT YOU BLESS THEM. WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR SPIRIT AND THEIR SPEECH TO GOD THAT KEEPS PEOPLE CALM AND THE DISPATCHER. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS, DEAR LORD AND THANK YOU FOR THE JUNIOR ROTC AND THE NAVY, OUR FUTURE HEROS. WE PRAY YOU BLESS THEM AND GO BEFORE, THROUGH AND BEHIND THEM. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND THANK YOU FOR THIS HOLY WEEK IN JESUS' MOST PRECIOUS WEEK.

AMEN. >> AND NOW TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WE WILL HAVE COMMANDER JOHN LESLIE.

>> COMMISSIONERS, IT IS MY PLEASURE AND HONOR TO BE HERE ON SUCH A GRAND DAY. EVERYBODY STANDING, FACE THE FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDERGOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

[Certificate of Recognition for John Patton, Celebrating his 100th Birthday]

>> NOW I AM GOING TO INVITE A MAN WHO HAS BEEN HONORED

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MR. JOHN PATTON, MEET US ON THE FLOOR AND WE WILL PRESENT YOU WITH ANOTHER CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION, SIR.

IF MR. PATTON'S FAMILY WILL JOIN HIM TOO.

AND NOT TO GET OFF TOPIC, BUT WE HAVE THE NUMBER ONE ROTC IN THE COUNTRY. IF THE ROTC WOULD STAND UP AND LINEUP BEHIND MR. PATTON I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].

>> WHILE SOME OF US JOINED TOGETHER IN THE ROTUNDA TO CELEBRATE A MAN WHO LIVED AN EXEMPLARY LIFE, HE LIVES IN ORANGE DALE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRIKES ME IS HE SAYS BOY, I JUST LOVE LOOKING OUT AT THAT RIVER.

THAT'S PART OF HIS BIO. WHO COULD ARGUE WITH THAT? HE LIVES IN ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PARTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. MR. PATTON DURING HIS MILITARY SERVICE DURING WORLD WAR II EARNED SIX BRONZE STARS.

FOLKS, THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE MARVELED AT.

BEING PART OF THE GREATEST GENERATION WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM ARE LIVING OFF OF THE COURAGE AND THE VALUE -- VALOR THAT MR. PATTON AND THOSE ALONGSIDE HIM DISPLAYED IN THAT WAR. WE ARE ALL BENEFICIARIES OF THAT COURAGE AND VALOR. AND MY FAMILY AND MYSELF AND EVERY ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENT WANTS TO SAY THANK YOU AND HAPPY 100TH BIRTHDAY. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO BE WITH YOU TODAY. [APPLAUSE].

>> BATTERIES ARE STILL IN IT. I WANT TO GIVE MR. PATTON THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOLKS THAT SHOWED UP.

I KNOW SURELY YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS YOU WOULD RATHER DO THAN BE HERE THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THE MOST WONDERFUL THING RIGHT NOW IS TO SEE ALL OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE BEHIND ME IN THE ROTC.

IT REALLY IS WONDERFUL. I AM GLAD YOU SIGNED UP AND I HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE A WONDERFUL LIFE.

STAY IN THE MILITARY. IT WILL BE A GOOD PLACE FOR YOU.

I THANK YOU ALL. [APPLAUSE].

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[APPLAUSE]. >> WELL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE

[Proclamation Recognizing Child Abuse Prevention Month ]

NEXT WE WILL BE PRESENTING A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. WHILE COMMISSIONER ALAIMO IS MAKING HIS WAY DOWN TO THE FLOOR I WANT TO REMARK ON HOW WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF AMAZING PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SEEN ANYTHING BETTER THAN A MAN TURNING 100 YEARS OLD, SIX BRONZE STARS AND THE TYPE OF MILITARY SERVICE HE HAS AND ADDRESS THE NUMBER ONE ROTC IN THE COUNTRY. THAT WAS A COOL MOMENT.

>> MANY OF YOU MAY HEAR FROM TIME TO TIME THE SAME THING I HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE UPSET FOR DIFFERENT REASONS RIGHT NOW WITH OUR COUNTRY. THE DIVISIVENESS, WHATEVER IS GOING ON THEY END THE RANT WITH THE BEST DAYS ARE BEHIND US.

WHEN I SIT HERE AND I SEE MR. PATTON AND I SEE 28 OR 30 YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION, THAT'S THE JUNIOR ROTC TEAM, I'M CONVINCED -- I'M CONVINCED OUR BEST DAYS ARE IN FRONT OF US. [APPLAUSE].

>> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP CHRISTIE GILLIS FROM THE OFFICE OF CHILD AND WELL BEING. IF CHRISTIE WILL COME FORWARD.

APRIL IS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES JOINED TOGETHER AND WORKING TOWARD PREVENTING CHILD ABUSE.

I WILL ASK SHELBY ROMERO TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE RECORD.

>> THE PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA WHEREAS NATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH WILL BE RECOGNIZED THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES DURING APRIL 2023. WHEREAS PREVENTING CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT IS A COMMUNITY PROBLEM THAT DEPENDS ON INVOLVEMENT AMONG PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS CHILD MALTREATMENT OCCURS WHEN PEOPLE FIND THEMSELVES IN STRESSFUL SITUATIONS AND WITHOUT COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO COPE.

THE MAJORITY STEMS FROM SITUATIONS STEMS FROM SITUATION THAT'S ARE PREVENTABLE. WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT NOT ONLY DIRECTLY HARM CHILDREN, BUT ALSO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, HEALTH PROBLEMS AND RISKY BEHAVIOR. CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT CAN BE REDUCED BY MAKING SURE EACH FAMILY HAS THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN IN A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.

WHEREAS EFFECTIVE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION PROGRAM SUCCEEDS BECAUSE OF PARTNERSHIPS CREATED AMONG MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS, SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, SCHOOLS , COMMUNITIES, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. ALL CITIZENS SHOULD BECOME INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING FAMILIES AND RAISING THEIR CHILDREN IN A SAFE, NURTURING ENVIRONMENT. AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA APRIL 2023 BE DESIGNATED AT CHILDHOOD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH AND CALL ON ALL CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY AGENCIES AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, MEDICAL FACILITIES AND BUSINESSES TO INCREASE EFFORTS TO PREVENT CHILD ABUSE AND THERE BY STRENGTHENING THE COMMUNITIES WE LIVE IN.

THIS FOURTH DAY OF APRIL OF 2023.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND AS THE PROCLAMATION SAID, IT IS NOT JUST US, THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, BUT EVERYONE THAT IS WEARING BLUE,

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[APPLAUSE]. >> THAT WAS WONDERFUL.

[Proclamation Recognizing Sexual Assault Awareness Month]

AWARENESS MONTH. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

WOULD JACKIE MEREDITH COME UP AND RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION? SHELBY, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD RECOGNIZING APRIL 20 TO 3 -- 20 TO 3 AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARE --

AWARENESS MONTH. >> PROCLAMATION OF ST. JOHNS WHEREAS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH IS INTENDED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD AND HAS PUBLIC HEALTH IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHEREAS RAPE, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY AS SEEN BY STATISTICS INDICATING THAT ONE IN SIX BOYS AND ONE IN FOUR GIRLS WILL EXPERIENCE SEXUAL ASSAULT BEFORE THE AGE OF 18.

ONE IN SIX WOMEN AND ONE IN 16 MEN WILL HAVE EXPERIENCED 6 AISLE UH DASH DARR SEXUAL -- SEXUAL ASSAULT DURING THEIR TIME IN COLLEGE. LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT, THERE IS COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN REDUCING SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THROUGH PREVENTION, EDUCATION, INCREASED AWARENESS AND HOLDING PERPETRATORS WHO COMMIT ACTS OF VIOLENCE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. AND WHEREAS BETTY GRIFFIN HOUSE STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE EFFORTS OF NATIONAL STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERS AND OF EVERY CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN PUBLIC EFFORTS INCLUDING CONVERSATIONS INCLUDING WHAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS AND HOW TO HELP SURVIVORS CONNECT WITH SERVICES AND HOW EVERY SEGMENT OF SOCIETY CAN WORK TO BETTER ADDRESS SEXUAL VIOLENCE. NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT APRIL 20 TO -- 2023, BE ADOPTED AS SEXUAL ASSAULT

AWARENESS MONTH. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR PROCLAIMING APRIL SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH.

I AM FROM THE BET -- BETTY GRIFFEN CENTER.

I KNOW SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT IS A DIFFICULT SUBJECT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT IT MUST BE TALKED ABOUT.

IN DOING SO IT IS A CONTINUED DISCUSSION.

IN ORDER TO BRING AN END TO SEXUAL ASSAULT IT TAKES COMMUNITY AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR COMMUNITY FOR ALL THAT

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WE DO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TOO THAT WE ASK YOU WEAR TEAL GREEN THIS MONTH.

TEAL AND BLUE GO WELL TOGETHER FOR CHILD ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH.

IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS EXPERIENCING SEXUAL ABUSE OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, PLEASE CONTACT OUR 24/HOUR HELP LINE AT 904-824-1555 OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER.ORG. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU DO.

MY MOTHER WAS ONE OF THE FOUR AND I PERSONALLY WAS ONE OF THE SIX. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING. IT HELPS ME SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT MAYBE MY GIRLS AND MY SON WILL NEVER HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THE SAME THING. ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PROCLAMATION. [APPLAUSE].

[Proclamation Recognizing National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week ]

>> NOW COMMISSIONER JOSEPH WILL PRESENT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELL COMMUNICATIONS WEEK.

SOME OF OUR UNSUNG HEROS. >> I LOVE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE BETTY GRIFFIN CENTER. I AM RUNNING IN THEIR 5K.

AFTER THE 5K THERE IS AN EASTER EGG HUNT.

GO ONLINE AND SIGN UP. IT WILL BE FUN.

I WILL BE THERE AND MY DAUGHTER WILL BE THERE AND I HAVE A BET WITH HER AND SHE WILL PROBABLY BEAT ME.

FOR MY PROCLAMATION I WOULD LOVE TO CALL UP CHIEF BULLARD AND SHERIFF HARD WICK. I WOULD LOVE TO POINT OUT US AS A COMMUNITY WHEN WE HEAR SIRENS AND WHEN WE HEAR ESPECIALLY FIRE RESCUE SIRENS WE SIT IN OUR BEDS SAYING PLEASE LET IT NOT BE SOMEONE WE KNOW. FOR THE PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IT FOR THEM EITHER. AS WELL AS FOR SHERIFF HARDWICK WHO HAS BEEN RESPONDING TO A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN MY DISTRICT. HE IS TALKING WITH THE PEOPLE AND IT HAS BEEN GREAT TO SEE SUCH OPENNESS WITH OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I WOULD LIKE SHELBY TO READ THE NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATIONS WEEK

PROCLAMATION. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELE COMMUNICATORS OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN LIFE AND PROPERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELE COMMUNICATORS ARE THE FIRST CRITICAL CONTACT OUR CITIZENS HAVE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES. THESE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN ARE FIRST RESPONDERS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS THE SAFETY OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS, DEPUTY SHERIFF, FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS IS DEPENDENT ON THE QUALITY AND THE ACCURACY OF INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM CITIZENS WHO TELEPHONE THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER.

AND WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELE COMMUNICATORS ARE THE SINGLE VITAL LINK IN OUR POLICE OFFICERS, DEPUTY SHERIFF, FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS BY MONITORING THEIR ACTIVITIES BY RADIO, PROVIDING THEM INFORMATION AND ENSURING THEIR SAFETY. WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELE COMMUNICATORS EXHIBITED COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING AND PROFESSIONALISM DURING THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR JOB IN THE PAST YEAR. AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT THE WEEK OF APRIL 9TH THROUGH APRIL 15, 20 TO -- BE DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATIONS WEEK THIS FOURTH DAY OF APRIL OF 2023.

>> GOOD MORNING. THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE PARAMEDICS COMMONLY KNOWN AS FIRST RESPONDERS AND NOT SO COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE MEN AND WOMEN BEHIND ME ARE THE FIRST, FIRST RESPONDERS IF YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND DIAL 9-1-1, THEY ANSWER AND THEY TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO CALM DOWN AND MAKE SENSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE RESOURCES THEY NEED AND THEN THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES AND GET THEM DISPATCHED OUT. THEY GIVE AID AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE THE SAME EXTENSIVE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS AND SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE FIELD. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION

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I'M HONORED TO BE UP HERE RECOGNIZING THEM.

>> THIS IS JUST A SMALL CONTINGENCY OF OUR 78 MEMBERS OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT HANDLE 400,000 CALLS OF INGOING AND OUT GOING CALLS THROUGH THE ST. JOHNS SHERIFF'S OFFICE. OUT OF THOSE 280,000 CALLS THEY ARE DISPATCHED TO DEPUTY SHERIFF AND POLICE OFFICERS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. OUT OF THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER 105,000 9-1-1 CALLS THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN HANDLED.

THIS IS A STALL CONTINGENCY BEHIND ME.

I WILL TELL YOU IT IS SERVICE ABOVE SELF LIKE I HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE ST.

AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK CHIEF MICHELLE IS OUT THERE AND THE ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF DANA MADE IT.

THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DISPATCH TO ALL OF THE AGENCIES IN THIS JURISDICTION.

AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE ST. JOHN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU NEVER GET A CHANCE TO BE THANKED.

I THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND MR. CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT DO SERVICE ABOVE SELF. THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS. [APPLAUSE].

>> THANK YOU. THE FIRST VOICE WE WANT TO HEAR ARE THESE PEOPLE'S VOICES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WOW. SO WE HAD A MORNING FULL OF WONDERFUL PROCLAMATIONS. I ALSO HAVE SOMETHING FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, SHANE LOCK WOOD.

WE HAVE TO MEET THESE DEADLINES TO GET THE PROCLAMATIONS IN ON TIME, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT IT SHOULD BE READ EVEN IF WE DIDN'T MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL PROCLAMATION FOR OUR FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

APRIL 3RD THROUGH THE 9TH IS DESIGNATED PUBLIC HEALTH WEEK. THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS 55 INDIVIDUALS WHO PROVIDE A WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES INCLUDING PUBLIC HEALTH VACCINATIONS, INSPECTING POOLS AND BEACHES AND OVERSEEING ITEMS SUCH AS SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND DRINKING WELLS AND PROVIDE EDUCATION AND BENEFITS TO FAMILIES AND THE WOMEN, INFANT AND CHILDREN PROGRAM AND INVESTIGATING AND TRACKING DISEASE AND EPIDEMIOLOGY DEPARTMENT. YOU CAN ALSO GO TO THE -- TO THESE FOR BIRTH AND DEATH CERTIFICATES.

MR. LOCKWOOD, JOB WELL DONE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

THANK YOU, SIR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT

THESE PROCLAMATIONS? >> SO MOVED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> AND A SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

>> I. >> ALL RIGHT.

THAT PASSES 5-0. CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY.

[Public Safety Update]

>> MR. CHAIR, VICE-CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, I WILL MAKE THIS VERY BRIEF AND TURN MY TIME TO THE FIRE CHIEF.

HE HAS A PRESENTATION. I DID WANT TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOUR ATTENTON. WE APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING OUR TELE COMMUNICATORS. THEY ARE SPECIAL PEOPLE.

AS WE CONTINUE TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN IT IS ONE OF THE HARDEST JOBS. YOU CAN SEE LEGISLATURE IN TALLAHASSEE THAT WILL NOT MAKE IT THIS YEAR, BUT THERE WILL BE PTSD AND MENTAL HEALTH STUFF BENEFITING OUR TELE COMMUNICATORS. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I WANTED TO BRING UP SOMETHING. AS WE CLOSED OUT 2022 I DIDN'T GET TO TELL YOU THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF CRIMES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THERE WAS A 71% INCREASE IN THEFT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE GROWTH WITH THE BEAUTIFUL COUNTY COMES ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL SPACE AS WE KNOW AND WITH COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IN SPACE COMES ADDITIONAL CRIME AS WELL.

WE AT THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE WORKING WELL WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES WITH MODERN POLICING TECHNOLOGY AND WITH OUR BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS TO MEETING SOME OF THE OWNERS OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE PARTNERED UP TO PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF TECHNOLOGY-BASED POLICING WE

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I HATE TO USE THAT TERM BECAUSE IT IS A CLICHE WE USED FOR YEARS THAT HAS GONE NOWHERE. I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE SERVICES OUT THERE.

GET ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITES ON THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE AS WELL, ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE. WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE BEFORE THEY GET IN THOSE DARK PLACES. I WILL TURN IT OVER NOW.

>> THANK YOU, SHERIFF. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING AGAIN. SCOTT BULLARD, INTERIM FIRE RESCUE CHIEF. SO I WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY A FEW MONTHS AGO TO TAKE OVER AS INTERIM FIRE CHIEF.

I WAS STEPPING INTO A NEW POSITION WITH A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND ONE OF MY PRIORITIES IN THIS PROCESS IS DOING AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT WE HAVE, THE NEEDS IS A DIFFERENT PART OF THAT AND RIGHT NOW I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE STOOD.

THE BEGINNING OF MARCH WE STARTED A NEW PROGRAM OF TRACKING NOT ONLY OUR EMERGENCY CALLS WE RUN WHICH IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER NON-EMERGENCY ACTIVITIES WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS. THIS GIVES US AN IDEA OF PUTTING THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE FOR A 24/HOUR SHIFT.

THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF PRIOR TO THIS WE KNEW IT WAS GOING ON, BUT WE COULDN'T -- YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T PRODUCE ANY DATA ON IT.

SO NOW A BIG PART OF THIS TRACKING THAT WE HAVE IS RIGHT BACK TO OUR TELE COMMUNICATORS AND THE COMS CENTER.

THEY ARE GETTING THE DATA FOR US.

THIS IS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING THEY ARE ALREADY DOING.

THEY ARE ALLOWING US TO CAPTURE THIS DATA.

I KNOW ALL OF YOU KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF DATA.

LAST MONTH WE RAN 3200 CALLS OF EMERGENCY SERVICE.

OUT OF THOSE 1500 WERE TRANSPORTS.

WE TOOK A PATIENT TO THE HOSPITAL.

THAT'S A PRETTY BUSY MONTH. THEN IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE OTHER DUTY THAT'S WE HAVE DONE. I WANT TO KEY IN ON THE HOSE TESTING AND THE HYDRANTS AND OUR TRAINING.

THOSE ARE ALL -- WE HAVE AN ISO INSPECTION COMING UP IN MAY FOR THE COUNTY AND THAT'S THE INSURANCE SERVICES ORGANIZATION.

THAT'S WHO SETS THE RATES FOR HOMEOWNERS' INSURANCE.

SO BY US KEYING IN ON THESE ELEMENTS THAT FACTOR INTO THAT SCORE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROVIDE THE BEST -- YOU KNOW, DOING OUR PART TO PROVIDE THE LOWEST INSURANCE RATES FOR THE COUNTY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GRAND TOTAL OF ALL OF THE HOURS WE HAVE COMMITTED DOING ALL OF THESE NON-EMERGENCY ACTIVITIES, 1278 HOURS, THAT EQUATES TO ROUGHLY 53 DAYS SO NOT COUNTING OUR EMERGENCY CALLS. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THIS AS A TOOL TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD IN OUR CONTINUING ASSESSMENT OF HOW WE DO THESE -- DO THINGS AND WHY WE DO THINGS.

AND ANOTHER HUGE THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.

THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE HELPING US TRACK THIS.

[Clerk of Court's Report ]

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THIS

INFORMATION. >> HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. AND NOW A REPORT FROM OUR CLERK OF COURTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING. WITH APRIL BEING PROCLAIMED NATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE HOW OUR OFFICE WORKS WITH THE JUDICIARY AND OTHERS TO CREATE DEPENDENCY COURT. IT WAS CREATED TO IMPROVE THE HANDLING OF CHILD ABUSE CASES. THESE CASES ARE INITIATED WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND FILES A SHELTER PETITION. A JUVENILE CLERK IN OUR OFFICE WILL ASSIGN A CASE NUMBER TO THE PETITION AND HEARING 24 HOURS IN FRONT OF EITHER JUDGE FARABY OR MCGILLAN.

THE JUDGES WILL LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE AND PLACE THE CHILD IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, WHETHER IT IS WITH A FAMILY MEMBER OR FOSTER CARE. THEN OUR CLERKS WILL WORK WITH PARTNER AGENCIES AS THEY SUPPORT PARENTS ON COMPLETING CERTAIN TASKS. LAST YEAR THERE WERE 19 SHELTERED PETITIONS WITH ANOTHER 7 THIS YEAR.

FROM THE INITIAL FILING TO FINAL DISPOSITION OF EITHER FAMILY BEING REUNITED OR TERMINATION OF PARENTAL RIGHTS RESULTING IN ADOPTION OUR CLERKS ARE ON THE FRONT LINE WITH TIMELY TPAU SILL STATION -- TPAU SILL STATION. THAT'S OUR REPORT PENDING ANY

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QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

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THANK YOU. >> ANY ADDITIONS OR DE LESIONS TO -- DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> I HAVE NONE. COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> NONE. >> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO.

>> NONE. THEN WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT

ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WELCOME. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> IT IS BETH WITH LANDIS DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNEW AND TELL YOU THANK YOU FOR ITEM NUMBER 5 AND THIS DEVELOPER IS DONATING $3750 OF THESE FUNDS TO THE SHIP PROGRAM AND $3750 TO BUILDER'S CARE. WHAT THEY DO IS GO IN WITH PEOPLE ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED AND FIX THEIR ROOVES AND BUILD HANDICAPPED RAMPS, ANYTHING THEY NEED DONE, PLUMBING, WHATEVER IT TAKES. THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS TRYING TO GET BACK FUNDS THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY SPENT AND LOOK FORWARD TO DOING MANY, MANY MORE PROJECTS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

[Approval of Consent Agenda ]

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> MOVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. ANY ADDITIONS OR DE LESIONS TO THE -- DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA?

[Approval of Regular Agenda ]

>> NONE. >> I HAVE NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> NONE.

>> AT THIS POINT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA WOULD

BE PROPER. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE THE

REGULAR AGENDA. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[1. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2022-09 McLaughlin Easement. ]

THE REGULAR AGENDA IS APPROVED 5-0.

AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM.

IT IS A NON-ZONING ON MCLAUGHLIN EASEMENT.

>> NO EX PARTE. >> NONE.

>> I HAVE NONE. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> NONE. >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> NONE. >> ALL RIGHT.

AND NOW I THINK WE ARE READY TO HEAR THE AGENDA ITEM.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK TO YOU ON THIS PROJECT WE HAVE. [INAUDIBLE] IT IS NORMAL VERY VARIANCE 2022-09 -- [INAUDIBLE] I WANT TO ASK YOU -- I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS SO CAN YOU PUT THE SLIDES WITH THIS?

THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NEVER DONE IT EITHER.

IT IS LIKE THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.

>> THE PROPERTY OR TWO PARCELLS -- PARCELS ARE NORTH OF WEST KING STREET. IT IS TWO PARCELS.

THE REQUEST IS FOR THE PARCEL THAT IS NORTH OF THAT -- THE NORTHERN ONE. YOU CAN SEE IT IS ONE PROPERTY -- ONE PARCEL IS ON MCLAUGHLIN STREET AND THE OTHER ONE HAS RIGHT NOW ACCESS THROUGH A WOODED RIGHT OF WAY [INAUDIBLE] AND SO IN ORDER TO GAIN ACCESS TO THAT, THAT'S WHY THIS IS BEING REQUESTED. THE PROPOSED EASE MEANT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO THREE LOTS THAT WILL BE PART OF -- THE THREE LOTS WILL BE SPLIT -- THE LARGER PROPERTY WILL BE SPLIT AS PART OF THE AGENDA. FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT'S WHY IT IS BEING REQUESTED. THIS EASMENT WILL MEET THE DESIGN OF THE LDC. IT IS A ROADWAY OR A FIRE ACCESS AND IT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY ME AND MY WIFE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE, ON THE ROADWAY THAT WAS DRAFTED ONCE THE REQUEST IS APPROVED IT WILL BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY. YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN.

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FIRST ONE THERE ARE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IN THE STRICT REGULATION. THIS EASMENT WILL SERVE THREE LOTS. IT IS NOT BASED ON THE COUNTY STANDARDS. YOU NEED AN EASE -- EASE MEANT WHEN YOU REACH MORE THAN FIVE HOMES.

THIS WILL ONLY SERVE THREE LOTS AND ONE OF THE LOTS WILL STILL BE SERVED AND A WAY YOU CAN ACCESS.

[INAUDIBLE]. SECOND FACT WAS THE VARIANCE REQUESTED BASED ON EXCLUSIVELY A DESIRE TO REDUCE OF DEVELOPING THE SITE. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS AN OPENING AND WE ARE SEEKING TO HAVE THE EASE MEANT IMPROVED TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

ALL OF THESE LOTS ARE ON THE MEDIAN SIDE WHICH IS 2022-ACRES AND THEY WILL BE DEDICATED FOR MAINLY -- THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO HAVE THEM SERVE A MEDIAN INCOME FAMILY [INAUDIBLE] VERY HARD TO PROVIDE A AFFORDABLE HOUSE.

THIS IS PART OF THAT AND NOT NECESSARILY ABLE TO BUY AT THE CURRENT RATE. IT WILL NOT INCREASE CONGESTION ON PUBLIC STREETS FOR FIRE AND PUBLIC HAZARDS.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED STRATEGICALLY BETWEEN WEST KING STREET AND 4-MILE ROAD. THESE ROADWAYS ARE NOT DEFICIENT IN TRANSPORTATION. THERE ARE SECTIONS THAT ARE DEFICIENT, BUT NOT IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY.

AS TO THE DANGER OF FIRE AND OTHER HAZARDS, PART OF THE FIRE IS TO EXTEND THE WATERMAIN AND INCLUDING A NEW FIRE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH RIGHT NOW THE CLOSEST IS ON HELEN STREET AND [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY ARE TOO FAR BASED ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT REQUIRES 660 FEET.

IT WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE PROPERTY ALONG THAT FRONT.

THE FOURTH ONE [INAUDIBLE] CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING SITE. WILL SERVE UP TO THREE LOTS AND THERE IS NO REDUCTION IN THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND IT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH STANDARDS. [INAUDIBLE].

THE PROPOSED VARIANCE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE SPECIFIC RELEVANT SUBJECT AREAS OF THE CODE.

AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ACCESS EASE MEANT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ALL COMPLIED WITH RESIDENTIAL GROUP RS3, ALL OF THE SETBACKS WILL GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS ONCE THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED, OF COURSE, AND DENSITY WILL NOT EXCEED FOUR UNITS PER ACRE ON THIS PROJECT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HERE, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YOU DID A GOOD JOB. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CLEAR CUTTING.

IT IS FULL OF TREES AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT KEEPING A BUFFER ON THE EASE MEANT GOING

INTO THE SUBDIVISION? >> DEFINITELY.

THE ONLY TREES THAT WILL BE CUT ARE FOR THE EASE MEANT THAT IS

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THEY ARE PINE TREES. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO BUILD HOUSES AND USE THAT WOOD ACTUALLY FOR SOME OF THE BUILDING AS WELL. THAT'S LATER FOR THE HOUSES.

[INAUDIBLE] LATER ON. IT WILL NOT BE DONE AT ONCE.

IT WILL BE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME I HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG IT WILL

TAKE. >> SO YOU WILL LEAVE A LITTLE

BUFFER? >> YES, DEFINITELY.

EVERY TREE THAT I CAN SAVE, I WILL SAVE.

>> I LOVE IT. THANK YOU.

>> VERY MUCH INTO TREES. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? MADAM VICE-CHAIR, LET'S HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT, BACK TO THE BOARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS?

COMMISSIONER ALAIMO? >> THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE NZVAR 2022-09 MCLAUGHLIN EASE MEANT REQUEST FOR VARIANTS YENS TO SECTION 6.02.01. B.3 TO ALLOW THE FOR THE USE OF AN EASE MEANT FOR ACCESS WITHIN A PLATTED SUBDIVISION.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

[2. Public Hearing * REZ 2022-26 Continental Truck Service Rezoning.]

SO WE ARE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2 WHICH IS ALSO QUASI-JUDICIAL. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

>> NONE. >> MR. ARNOLD.

>> NONE. >> I HAVE NONE.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. >> NO EX PARTE.

>> OKAY. NUMBER 2.

>> WE ARE HERE FOR THE REZONING APPLICATION FROM COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURISM TO COMMERIAL INTENSIVE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STATE ROUTE 206 AND I-95. IT IS PART OF AN INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL NODE SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND.

THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL AREA IS OVER TWO MILES AWAY.

IT IS EAST ALONG U.S. 1. THIS TRAFFIC LINK OF 207 IS OPERATING AT 40% PEAK HOUR CAPACITY.

THERE IS NO TRAFFIC CONCERNS. ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED OR PLAN TO BE DEVELOPED WITH TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE CENTERS AND REGIONAL TRAVEL CENTERS INCLUDING THE LOWES TRAVEL STOP THAT IS WEST AND SOUTH OF THE PARCEL.

THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THAT.

THIS INTERCHANGE HAS A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURISM AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING WITH MIXED USE LAND USE.

THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE MIXED USE LAND USE AND IT IS CLEARLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT ZONING AND THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AT THE INTERCHANGE. THE REZONING REQUEST IS TO EXTEND THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE FROM THE TWO-ACRE PARCEL DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH DOWN TO THE SIX-ACRE PARCEL.

THE REMAINING CHT ZONING WAS SOLD AND THEY HILLARY -- WILL RETAIN THE EIGHT ACRES WITH THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING THAT WILL SERVE THE INTERCHANGE AREA. OVERALL THIS REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MIXED USE LAND USE THAT ENCOURAGES CONCENTRATED AREAS OF MORE INTENSE USES SUPPORTED BY URBAN SERVICES. SO THIS IS A HIGH INTENSE COMMERCIAL NODE AT THE INTERCHANGE AREA.

THESE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CORRIDOR'S EXISTING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE ANY IMPACTS THAT ARE NOT TYPICAL OF THE EXISTING AREA AND THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE TODAY.

AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> SINCE WE HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT MEETING THIS MORNING, PLEASE ALLOW ME TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND BECAUSE I THINK IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND THAT IN MY OPINION THIS IS IN NO WAY ANY TYPE OF URBAN SPRAWL OR LACK OF SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE.

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THE INTERCHANGE, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE SEVERAL ACTIVITIES AT 207. AS A HISTORY, IN 2016, IT -- THERE WAS AN APPLICATION TO DEVELOP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 206 HERE BASICALLY CONTIGOUS TO THIS PROPERTY.

AND IT INCLUDED A THOUSAND DWELLING UNITS.

THE COMMISSIONER DENIED THAT PROJECT BASED ON THE URBAN STRAUL AND COMPATIBILITY -- YOU ARE -- URBAN SPRAWL AND COMPATIBILITY. IN MY OPINION IT MIXES WITH THE INDUSTRIAL USE AND FOR 17 YEARS I DROVE BY THIS SITE TWICE A DAY ON MY WAY TO WATER MANAGEMENT AND BACK.

THIS WILL BE IN MY OPINION, AGAIN, MY PERSONAL OPINION, AN IMPROVEMENT THAT HAS THE FACILITY -RPBGS GAS STATION -- GAS STATION AND RESTAURANT. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE HISTORY. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THIS IN NO WAY REPRESENTS IN MY OPINION ANY KIND OF URBAN SPRAWL. IT FITS THIS SITE VERY WELL AND I THINK IT WILL PROVIDE A LITTLE EYE CANDY COMPARED TO WHAT MAY BE THERE NOW. A LITTLE HISTORY.

>> VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 2. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> ONCE AGAIN WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER ALAIMO? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I FIND IT COMPATIBLE AND AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER DEAN. IT FITS THE SITE WELL.

I WILL OFFER A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023 --

>> 12. >> APPROVING THE CONTINENTAL TRUCK SERVICE REZONING BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ALAIMO AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. ANY DISCUSSION?

[3. Second Reading of Proposed Ordinance Establishing Procedures for Code Enforcement Lien Release or Reduction. ]

CONGRATULATIONS. AND NOW ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 IS THE SECOND READING OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE RELATING TO CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS AND REQUEST FOR RELEASE AND REDUCTION OF THEM.

THE BOARD HEARD THIS ON MARCH 7TH AT THIS MEETING.

VERY BRIEFLY, I THINK THE BOARD KNOWS THAT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL BOARDS OR SPECIAL MAGISTRATES THAT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE FINES AND THOSE FINES CAN BE RECORDED AS LIENS AGAINST PROPERTY IN -- AND THE COUNTY OCCASIONALLY RECEIVES REQUESTS FROM INTERESTED PARTY TO REDUCE THOSE FINES AND TO OCCASIONALLY FORGIVE ENTIRELY. THE BOARD ULTIMATELY HAS THAT AUTHORITY. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD SET UP THE PROCEDURE FOR HEARING THOSE REQUESTS VERSUS SENDING THEM TO WHATEVER ENFORCEMENT BOARD INITIALLY PUT THEM IN PLACE AND THEN RENDERING A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN COMING BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR FINAL DETERMINATION. THERE ARE SEVERAL ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN MORE DETAIL AT THE MAY 7TH MEETING AS WELL AS CLARIFICATION THAT THERE IS A RIGHT OF APPEAL BY THE BOARD OF DETERMINATION AND THIS SETS OUT A PROCEDURE FOR THE POTENTIAL RESOLUTION OF REQUEST REGARDING THAT ASSET. I WILL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

I DID NOT RECEIVE QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC SINCE THE LAST MEETING. WHAT YOU SEE IS THE SAME AS WHAT YOU SAW A FEW WEEKS AGO. IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED THERE

IS A PROPOSED MOTION. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR. DO WE HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. BULTHUIS OR THE BOARD? PERHAPS A MOTION?

>> I MOVE -- EXCUSE ME, TO ENACT ORDINANCE 20 TO 3 --

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>> 13. >> ESTABLISHING THE RELEASE AND REDUCTION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT LEAN.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

[4. First Reading of an Ordinance Relating to Pedestrian and Vehicle Safety within Public Road and Rights-of-Way. ]

THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM.

>> JUST -- SO AT THE JANUARY 17TH MEETING, THE BOARD DIRECTED OUR OFFICE TO PREPARE A ORDINANCE RELATING TO DISTRACTING ORDAINING RUSS ACTIVITY WITHIN THE COUNTY RIGHTS OF WAY. PARTICULARLY TALKING ABOUT INTERSECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BEING HAZARDOUS TO BOTH THE PEDESTRIANS IN THE MEDIANS AS WELL AS TO THE DRIVERS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BRING BACK TO THE BOARD TODAY.

I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME ESTABLISHING THE BACKGROUND FOR THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE REASONS WHY THESE PARTICULAR PROVISIONS ARE BEING PUT FORTH. I GUESS ONE OF THE MORE STARTLING REASONS IS FLAW -- FLORIDA HAS BEEN RATED THE SECOND HIGHEST IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN DEATHS.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS NOT IMMUNE FROM THOSE RISKS AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A NUMBER OF CRASHES AS YOU CAN SEE SINCE 2020 WE HAD 200 CRASHES AND [INAUDIBLE]. AND LAST YEAR 86 CRASHES AND 7 FATALITIES AND I THINK WE HAVE ALL SEEN NEWS REPORTS OF ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN CRASHES AND FATALITIES IN THE FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR. THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BOTH HAVE IDENTIFIED [INAUDIBLE] AND REGULATION TO COMBAT PEDESTRIAN CRASHES AND IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. THAT'S ONE REASON WE ARE BRINGING THIS BEFORE YOU TODAY. FOCUSING ON MEDIANS AND INTERSECTIONS AND PEDESTRIAN INTERCHANGES, MEDIANS SERVE A FEW PURPOSES INCLUDING TO BUFFER TRAVEL LANES AND PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, AND WE KNOW IT CAN PROVIDE ENHANCEMENTS TO LANDSCAPIN AMENITIES, BUT WHILE THEY MAY BE PEDESTRIAN REFUGES, THEY ARE JUST THAT, A TEMPORARY REFUGE FOR SAFETY PURPOSES AND NOT INTENDED TO BE A PLACE WHERE ONE CAN REMAIN AND STAND FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. AND DOING SO CAN PRESENT PARTICULARLY A HIGHLY-TRAVELED ROAD AND PRESENT DANGERS AND THE RISK OF COLLISION. AND THERE IS THE UNEXPECTED PRESENCE OF A PEDESTRIAN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY CAN CAUSE INCREASED RISK OF COLLISION DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE DRIVERS WHO WOULD BE DISTRACTED MORE EASILY BY SEEING A PEDESTRIAN WHERE THEY ARE NOT EXPECTED TO BE MAY TAKE MANEUVERS THAT POTENTIALLY ARE UNNECESSARY BECAUSE THEY ARE AVOIDING THE RISK THEY SAY -- THEY SEE AND SIMILARLY PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE OCCUPANT INTERACTIONS OR VICE-VERSA INCREASE RISK PARTICULARLY ON THESE HIGHER SPEED, HIGHER TRAFFIC ROADWAYS BECAUSE THE DRIVERS ARE TAKING THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE UNEXPECTED AND THEN OTHER DRIVERS MAY HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT IN A WAY THAT CAN CAUSE FURTHER TRAFFIC I'M -- IMPAIRMENTS AND SLOWDOWNS.

I WILL TAKE A MOMENT MR. CHAIRMAN AND ASK IF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, RODNEY COOPER, WILL STEP UP FOR A SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. >> TKPWHRORPBG -- GOOD MORNING.

>> WOULD YOU CONFIRM IT IS YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION AS WELL THAT PEDESTRIANS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND IN PARTICULAR LOCATIONS LIKE MEDIANS PRESENT A PARTICULAR DANGER OR RISK BOTH TO THEMSELVES AND TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.

>> I CAN CONFIRM THAT AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I CAN MAKE.

BASICALLY IT REITERATES WHAT BRADLEY WAS JUST SAYING.

THE MEDIAN IS -- IT IS A REFUGE FOR WHEN THE TRAFFIC LIGHT MAY STOP AND PEDESTRIAN LIGHT MAY STOP AND THE PERSON HAS TO STAY THERE FOR JUST A MOMENT. WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SPEND AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME THERE BECAUSE IT IS CALLED DISTRACTED

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IT CAN INCREASE AGGRESSIVE DRIVING WHICH IS SOMETIMES HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT IF YOU ARE SITTING IN A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN AND THE PERSON IN THE VEHICLE OR THE PERSON ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD ARE MAKING AN INTERACTION, THEN THE AGGRESSIVNESS OF THE MOTORIST CAN CAUSE THEM TO GET UPSET AND CAUSE CRASHES THAT WAY.

WE HAVE CONFLICT IN MOVING TRAFFIC WHICH IS PART OF THE DISTRACTION. EVERYONE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE ALONG THE ROADWAY AND NOT REALLY SEE THE DISTRACTIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON THE ROADWAY EVEN THOUGH YOU DO WANT TO SEE IF ANYONE JUMPS OUT IN FRONT OF YOU.

I MENTIONED THE REFUGE. WE WANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE REFUGE. THAT'S WHY WE TIME THE SIGNALS PROPERLY SO YOU CAN CROSS FROM ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE OTHER. AS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MOST OF THESE PLACES ARE IN HIGH SPEED LOCATIONS AND I THINK IT IS INTUITIVE TO KNOW THAT THE FASTER THE VEHICLE GOES AND THE CONFLICT WITH PEDESTRIANS, THE MORE CHANCES OF FATALITY

INCREASE WITH SPEED. >> NOT ONLY DOES THE RISK OF THE COLLISION INCREASE, BUT THE SEVERITY OF THE INJURY AS A

RESULT WOULD ALSO INCREASE? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. UNLESS THERE IS ANY OTHER

COMMENTS? >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND WE WILL OF COURSE ASK IF THERE ARE IN I QUESTIONS FROM THE -- IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD PROPOSE TO PROHIBIT UNCERTAIN ACTIVITIES IN THE DESIGNATED RIGHTS OF WAY.

IT IS STRUCTURED TO PROVIDE FOR THE APPLICABILITY OF THE ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESS THE USES AND THEN TURN TO ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES. I WILL TURN TO THOSE AS WELL.

WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ROADWAYS WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED SAINT JOHNS COUNTY AND WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITIES THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ORDINANCES AND CODES THAT RELATE TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND RIGHTS OF WAY.

ST. AUGUSTINE HAS ADOPTED THEIR OWN ORDINANCE AND IN TERMS OF APPLICABILITY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DESIGNATED ROADWAYS AND THIS WOULD BE THE INTERSTATE AND INTERCHANGES AND COLLECTOR ROADS AND THEN THE FIRST 440 FEET OF LOCAL ROADS AS THEY INTERSECT THOSE HIGHER SPEED TRAFFIC TYPES.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE PARTICULAR ROADWAY AND AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AREAS OPEN FOR TRAFFIC INCLUDING THE MEDIAN AND THEN FOUR FEET ALONG THE SHOULDER OR THE CURVE.

I SHOULD ADD THAT THE COUNTY DOES OWN CERTAIN RIGHTS OF WAY WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITIES. AN EXAMPLE IS A1A BEACH IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY OWNS THAT, IT WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE ORDINANCE.

IT WOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE LOCAL LIEU MISS -- MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE CODE. WE ARE FOCUSING ON CONDUCT AND SAFETY. THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS SPEECH OR PURPORT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CONTENT OF SPEECH.

THIS IS NOT ADDRESSING FOLKS WITH SIGNS OR NOT HAVING SIGNS.

IT IS THE PRESENCE AND THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS THE ISSUE AND THAT IS THE RISK AS MR. COOPER JUST IDENTIFIED.

I GUESS I SHOULD ALSO BACK UP AND NOTE THAT THERE IS EXTENSIVE MATERIALS IN THE BACK UP OF THIS AGENDA ITEM INCLUDING MATERIALS FROM THE STATE AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT EXPLAIN THE RISK TO PEDESTRIANS. THIS IS JUST ONE ASPECT OF REDUCING THE RISK. THIS HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS ONE WAY TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THROUGH ENFORCEMENT OF TECHNIQUES LIKE THIS. SO AGAIN, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SPEECH. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONDUCT.

THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE MEANS FOR FOLKS TO PRESENT THEIR SPEECH OTHER THAN WITHIN A MEDIAN. WE ARE FOCUSING AGAIN NARROWLY ON THESE DESIGNATED ROADWAY TYPES DUE TO THE HIGHER TRAFFI AND SPEED AND PROTECTING THE HEALTH, SAFER TEE AND WELFARE OF PEDESTRIANS IS THOUGHT TO BE A COMPELLING AND SIGNIFICANT GOVERNMENT INTEREST. UNOBJECTION -- UNOBJECTIONABLY

WE AGREE. >> THIS WOULD MAKE USE OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IN A MANNER THAT INTERFERES WITH THE SAFE AND EFFICIENT MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND PROPERTY ON A PUBLIC ROAD, STREET OR HIGHWAY. THAT'S THE GENERAL TERMS AND THEN WE DRILL DOWN SOME NARROW SPECIFIC PROHIBITIONS INCLUDING ENGAGING IN FISCAL INTERACTION BETWEEN A PEDESTRIAN AND THE OCCUPANT OF THE MOTOR VEHICLE INCLUDING TRANSFERRING PRODUCTS, MATERIALS AND MONIES AND THE MOTOR VEHICLE LOCATED ON THE

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A LOT OF WORDS, BUT THE GIST OF IT IS WE CANNOT HAVE A PHYSICAL INTERACTION BETWEEN FOLKS WHILE THEY ARE IN THEIR CAR AND STILL IN THE TRAVELING LANES AND NOT PROPERLY AND LEGALLY PARKED AND WITH PEDESTRIANS BECAUSE AS MR. COOPER IDENTIFIED, IT CREATES CONFLICTS AND DISTRACTIONS.

THE SECOND SPECIFIC PROHIBITION IS STOPPING AND STANDING AND SITTING ORIE MAINING WITHIN A -- OR REMAINING WITHIN A MEDIAN AFTER YOU HAVE HAD TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO CROSS THE LANES OF TRAFFIC WITH THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY LAWS.

A LOT OF WORDS, BUT IT IS A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE, BUT WE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN TO THE SIDEWALK AND TURN OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

IF YOU HAVE HAD TWO CONSECUTIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION. THERE ARE SECTIONS OF COURSE, AND I THINK YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THEM ALL TO BE REASONABLE AND MAKE SENSE HERE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE RESCUE AND GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PULLS SOMEONE OVER AND THEY CAN GET OUT OF THEIR CRUISER AND THEY CAN INTERACT WITH THE VEHICLE:0.

IF ROAD WORK IS BEING DONE ON A MEDIAN, OF COURSE THAT IS NOT PROHIBITED. CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE REPAIR, SURVEY AND OTHER LEGALLY AUTHORIZED SERVICES, THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE. EMERGENCIES, YOU ARE IN AN ACCIDENT AND YOUR VEHICLE IS INOPERABLE, YOU CAN GET OUT AND REMAIN THERE AS LONG AS AN EMERGENCY IS IN PLACE AND OF COURSE WHILE REMAINING SAFE. BUSES, AGAIN, OF COURSE THE SUNSHINE BUS PICKS UP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND FOLKS NEED TO INTERACT, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

AND THEN AGAIN, IF THERE IS A PERMITTED SPECIAL EVENT WHERE THE ROADWAY MAY BE CLOSED FOR AN EVENT, YOU CAN BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AT THAT TIME. FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, A FIRST VIOLATION WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A CITATION, CIVIL INFRACTION. A SECOND OR SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION COULD BE PROSECUTED AS A MISDEMEANOR AND SUBJECT TO A $500 FINE AND/OR 60-DAYS OF IMPRISONMENT.

EACH VIOLATION IS A SEPARATE VIOLATION AND WILL BE CHARGED SEPARATELY. AND KNOWING THAT THIS KIND OF VIOLATION CAN OCCUR, EACH INCIDENT AFTER MORE THAN 20 MINUTES WOULD AGAIN BE A VIOLATION.

WE DON'T WANT A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY LEAVES THE RIGHT OF WAY AFTER BEING WARNED TO DO SO BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEN RETURNS AND EACH INTERACTION COULD BE A VIOLATION.

AND ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND BEING IN THE VEHICLE AND INTERACTING WITH A PEDESTRIAN WOULD ALSO BE A VIOLATION. THAT CAN BE SUBJECT TO A CIVIL PENALTY AS WELL. ALL OF THAT IS ALSO SUBJECT TO A 30-DAY EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN IN WHICH THE SHERIFF WOULD BE ISSUING WARNINGS FOR THE THE FIRST 30 DAYS AFTER ENACTING THIS ORDINANCE. THIS IS NEW AND WE WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.

THAT IS WHAT PROPOSED IN THE ORDINANCE.

I THINK THIS BOARD GAVE REFERENCE WHEN THEY DECIDED TO PURSUE THIS THEY ADOPTED A SIMILAR ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE MODELED MUCH OF THIS AGAINST THAT.

THEY HAD PROVISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE TO SOLICITATION [INAUDIBLE]. WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

THEY TALK ABOUT ALL PUBLIC ROADWAYS AND I THINK AS AN ASIDE I THINK THAT HELPS WITH THE ENFORCEABILITY AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL -- CONSTITUTIONAL TEE [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY DON'T -- THEY GO STRAIGHT TO A POTENTIAL FOR A MISDEMEANOR IN THEIR ORDINANCE AND THEY DON'T ADDRESS THE PARTICIPATION IN THE VIOLATION WHERE VEHICLE OCCUPANTS ARE SEPARATE TO A CITATION. JACKSONVILLE ADOPTED A SIMILAR ORDINANCE IN FEBRUARY. THEY HAVE A WHOLE PROCESS ABOUT PERMITS FOR SOLICITATION IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WHICH WE DON'T HAVE AND ARE NOT RECOMMENDING WE ADOPT.

THEY ARE COMPLETING SOME AMENDMENTS TO THAT.

THAT COULD POTENTIAL -- POTENTIALLY BE A CONSTITUTIONAL

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THEY ADDRESS GENERALLY COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY. WE DON'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW AND I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THAT. THEY PROVIDE A STEP UP IN THEIR ENFORCEMENT AND THEIR PENALTIES BEFORE REACHING A MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTION WHICH THE BOARD COULD CONSIDER AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, VERY QUICKLY FROM A CONSTITUTIONAL STANDPOINT, ORDINANCES LIKE THIS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED AND WHEN WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING CONDUCT SPECIFICALLY AND IT IS FOCUSED ON SAFETY AND [INAUDIBLE]. CONVERSE -- CONVERSELY THERE ARE FLORIDA STATUTES THAT HAVE ADDRESSED PARTICIPATION WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND REQUIRED PERMITS THAT THE FEDERAL COURTS HAVE FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

THAT'S A REASON WHY WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING THAT HERE.

WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE MEAT OF THE ISSUE WHICH IS THE SAFETY.

AS YOU SAW MR. COOPER DID REVIEW THIS AND SO WE DID WORK WITH HIM ON THE DRAFTING OF THIS AS WELL AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

FDOT HAS ADVISED THAT THEY TAKE NO POSITION ON ON THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE STATE ROADS AND THEY FOCUS ON THINGS LIKE ILLEGAL PARKING AND STRUCTURES OF RIGHT OF WAY.

IN TERMS OF PUBLIC COMMENT I DID RECEIVE ONE CALL SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON THE APPLICABILITY OF THE ORDINANCE.

NO OTHER CORRESPONDENT -- CORRESPONDENCE OR CALLS PRIOR TO THE HEARING. AT THIS TIME I AM SEEKING ANY BOARD DIRECTION FOR REVISIONS OR CHANGES OR WHETHER THEY STILL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ORDINANCE OR HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO MOVE FORWARD IT WOULD BE SCHEDULED FOR AND BROUGHT BACK FOR A SUBSEQUENT VOTE. THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

AND LET ME JUST THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DID AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT IF RIGHT.

>> GO BACK, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, TO THE OVERHED THAT HAD THE STATUTORY. I THINK THERE WERE TWO CASES THAT HELD CERTAIN STATUTES UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

LOOK AT THE BOTTOM. THAT LAST CASE, IS THAT DAVID

SHORE? >> OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS SUED BY SOMEBODY WHO WAS CITED UNDER THE FLORIDA STATUTES.

THEY ARE PART -- -- >> I DON'T NEED A FULL BRIEFING.

WHAT I AM POINTING OUT -- WHEN YOU HAVE A DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS BETWEEN THE CIRCUIT COURT AND STATE SUPREME COURT, WE ARE IN THAT DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS AREA.

THAT CASE WILL BE BINDING ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THEY ARE PERSUASIVE AND BINDING.

THIS WOULD BE BINDING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY?

>> I HAVE REVIEWED IT AND WE TRY TO AVOID SOME OF THE PITFALLS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THAT CASE.

>> THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

>> FOR FOR MYSELF AND MAYBE -- FOR ANYBODY THAT MAY BE LISTENING WE ARE REALLY DEALING WITH PANHANDLING, I THINK. WE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO USE THAT TERM. I GUESS WE CAN'T SAY THAT OUT LOUD. PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PANHANDLING. CAN SOMEONE CLARIFY -- I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. -- WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID.

WHAT IF YOUR CAMPAIGN WITH A SIGN ON THESE DESIGNATED ROADS, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE DESIGNATED ROADS ARE.

YOU MAY BE TALKING TO THOSE PEOPLE IN THE CARS, BUT WOULD THAT NOT BE PART OF THIS? THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE OF PANHANDLING VERSUS CAMPAIGNS AND SOMEBODY STANDING OUT THERE AND CAMPAIGNING FOR SOMEBODY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH ALL OF THE RESEARCH HE HAS DONE.

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4?

GOOD MORNING. >> I'M SORRY.

I HOPE THIS IS NOT A NAIVE QUESTION AND I WILL EMAIL AND

ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS TOO. >> NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> 101 GREEN WILLOW LANE. ST. AUGUSTINE.

WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN WHO RIDES HIS BICYCLE WITH BIG AMERICAN FLAGS UP AND DOWN U.S. 1 AND CLEANS UP THE TRASH ALL ON HIS OWN. WE NEED THAT GIVE A HOOT, DON'T POLLUTE BACK BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS THROWING EVERYTHING OUT THE WINDOW. I JUST WONDER IF THAT WILL PERTAIN TO HIM AS WELL. I DO HAVE ANOTHER INSTANCE THAT IS REGARDING PANHANDLING OF A YOUNG MAN WHO STANDS AT AN INTERSECTION WITH A BULL HORN AND PREACHES ABOUT JESUS AND TALKS ABOUT ETERNITY. SO I JUST WONDERED ABOUT THOSE TWO INSTANCES AND IF THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS. I ASSUME THE SECOND.

THE FIRST I GUESS IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF WHERE HE PARKS HIS VEHICLE AND HOW DISTRACTING HE IS TO THE MOTORISTS.

THOSE ARE MY OWN CLARIFICATIONS. >> THANK YOU, MS. SPIEGEL.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH?

>> SO WHEN I GOT TO WORK TODAY, THE FIRST THING I DID, I ASKED ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS A QUESTION ABOUT ELECTIONS AND CAMPAIGNING.

I DO THINK THE ANSWER I GOT FROM HIM WAS LEGITIMATE AND MAYBE I WILL JUST ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT CAMPAIGNING.

THE SECOND THING, I KNOW THERE IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING A COUPLE THINGS THAT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE OKAY.

THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE IS I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEM GET HIT BY A CAR. IT IS REALLY THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU.

>> AND THROUGH THE CHAIR AND TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER JOSEPH'S QUESTION AS WELL AS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF CAMPAIGN SIGNS OR CAMPAIGNING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY LIKE ON THE SIDEWALK WITH THE SIGNS, IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT THAT AND DOESN'T MAKE THAT ILLEGAL.

AND WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING -- THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN RIDING A BIKE AND HOLDING A SIGN. AS LONG AS HE IS OBEYING ALL OTHER TRAFFIC LAWS AND IF THERE IS A BIKE LANE HE IS IN THE BIKE LANE. IF THERE IS NO BIKE LANE HE IS WHEREVER BIKES ARE ALLOWED TO BE.

THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT. THIS IS TALKING ABOUT PEDESTRIANS CLEARING THE RIGHT OF WAY WHEN THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN STANDING AT AN INTERSECTION. I AM NOT SURE WHERE HE.

IF HE IS OUTSIDE THE FOUR-FOOT CLEAR ZONE AND THEY ARE NOT IN THE TRAVEL LANES OR THE MEDIAN, THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THIS AND HE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE STATEMENTS.

THIS IS FOCUSING ON SAFETY AND NOT SPEECH OR CONDUCT.

I HOPE THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WANT TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER DEAN'S POINT WHICH IS A FANTASTIC POINT. THE DECISION IN THE APPEALS COURT PERTAINING TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WAS THAT TAKEN INTO

CONSIDERATION? >> AS COMMISSIONER DEAN INDICATED, IT WAS AT THE TRIAL COURT LEVEL BY THE FEDERAL COURT IN JACKSONVILLE. IT WAS SUBJECT TO APPEAL, BUT WAS EVENTUALLY RESOLVED BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND DID NOT REACH AN APPELLATE DETERMINATION BY THE 11TH CIRCUIT.

BUT IT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY BINDING WITHIN THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WHICH IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND IT WOULD BE PERSUASIVE AND REFERENCES A NUMBER OF CASES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT AND SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES.

THAT WAS ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. >> THANK YOU MR. BULTHUIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

THEN WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION. >> THERE IS NO MOTION.

>> FORGIVE ME. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> HEARING NOTHING FURTHER FROM THE BOARD I WILL SCHEDULE THIS FOR A FUTURE MEETING AND A

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MOTION MADE THEN. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS THE END OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA WHICH MEANS WE ARE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM VICE CHAIR?

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS.

EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM.

COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT INCLUDE A DEMAND FOR

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NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL AND PERTINENT OR SHRAPB -- SLANDEROUS REMARKS. MEMBERS FROM THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. FINALLY I ASK ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS OVERHEAD MATERIAL TO PRESENT IT TO THE STAFF AND CLERK OF COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC READY.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR LINING UP.

COME ON DOWN. >> GOOD MORNING.

GREG GILL, 105 DEER COVE DRIVE. PRESIDENT OF THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND HERE TO REPRESENT 2,000 RESIDENTS DASH -- AND WE HAVE A FEW HERE WITH US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS.

I AM HERE FOR ONE SOLE REASON. THIS IS GOING ON MUCH TOO LONG WITH TOO MUCH COUNTY SUPPORT. FORGIVE ME.

THIS IS MEANT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

WE ARE HERE TO DEMAND THAT THE HAMSTER REPORT BE PLACED ON HOLD AND CORRECTED. OUR ATTORNEYS AND ENGINEERS AND CONSULT AT THE PRESENT TIMES -- CON -- CONSULTANTS AGREE.

HERE IS WHY. TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS DRAFT IS DOING. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SET A HIGHER STANDARD? I DON'T THINK SO BASED ON OUR PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS. SECONDLY, TO POINT OUT THE BIAS DESIGN OF THE REPORT AND THE COMPLETE LACK OF INCLUSION OF MARSH LANDING IN THE PROCESS. AFTER ALL, OUR SYSTEM FUNCTIONS EFFECTIVELY WILL NEVER STOP HURRICANE STORM SURGE.

THIRD, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE SEVERITY AND THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES TO OUR LITIGATION AND TO THE MEDIATION.

YOU HAVE SET ALL OF THAT BACK BY PREMATURELY RELEASING AN INACCURATE DRAFT. DO YOU REALIZE WITH A CURSORY REVIEW WE HAVE IDENTIFIED MORE THAN 40 INACCURACIES AND MANY OF THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED THIS MORNING.

SO HOW DID THIS THING GET OUT OF BOUNDS? WE DID HAVE HOMES FLOOD. THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED.

IT WAS NOT THE STORM WATER SYSTEM.

WE HAVE OPINIONS ON THAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PRIVATELY.

THE LIT GANTS HAVE -- LITIGANTS HAVE PUT PRESSURE ON THE COMMISSIONERS. THE COUNTY HAS RELENTED AND THE REPORT THAT CLEARED UP A LOT OF THE ORDINANCE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. THEY OFFERED THE HAMSTER REPORT.

THE HAMSTER REPORT WAS DESIGNED WITH BIAS.

IT IS OUT OF SKOEB. IT IS ASKING THINGS FAR AND ABOVE THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS MARSH LANDING.

MR. ENSLEY HAS BEEN OUT -- OUTRAGED BY THIS.

HE SAID IT WILL COST TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND AS MUCH AS $25,000 OF ASSESSMENTS. WE ARE STOCKED UP WITH ASSESSMENTS AND DUES INCREASES TO FIGHT THE LITIGATION THAT YOU ARE UNINTENTIONALLY FUELING. I UNDERSTAND THE COURTS GOING BACK NOW TO MR. FLOWERS AND A WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY SO WE ASK YOU TO STOP THIS REPORT AND STOP THE MADNESS AS WE TRY TO IMPROVE MARCH LANDING STORM WATER SYSTEM APPROPRIATELY.

WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS NEXT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> I WOULD LIKE ERIC ULMAN TO

FOLLOW. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> STKPWORPBG. I AM -- GOOD MORNING.

I AM ERIC ULMAN. I LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, 32217. I AM A LICENSED ENGINEER AND PRACTICING ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR 25 YEARS.

17 OF THOSE AS THE OWNER OF ULMAN ENGINEERING.

WITH MY WIFE HILLARY, WE SPECIALIZE IN STORM WATER MASTER PLANNING INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS.

I HAVE BEEN THEN -- THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR MARSH LANDING FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS AND INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE STORM WATER SYSTEM AND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND THE LEGAL RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN THE HOA AND THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS. AS I REVIEW THE HAMSTER REPORT I AM IMMEDIATELY DRAWN TO LACK OF OBJECTIVITY IN THE REPORT THAT YOU COMMISSIONED AND PAID FOR. ONE YEAR AGO MR. HAMSTER WENT ON RECORD SUPPORTING MAR -- MARSH LANDING AND THE ROBUSTNESS OF THE STORM WATER SYSTEM AND COMPLIMENTED THE EFFORTS ON MAINTENANCE AND THIS REPORT SEEKS TO CONDEMN IT.

THERE ARE NUMEROUS OPEN-ENDED STATEMENTS AND OPINIONS WITHOUT SUPPORTING FACT THAT COULD LEAD A READER OF THIS REPORT TO A NEGATIVE VIEW OF MARSH LANDING. NOT TO MENTION THE NUMEROUS FACTUAL INCONSISTENCY THAT'S WILL BE DISCUSSED BY SPEAKERS AFTER ME. OBJECTIVE REPORTS SHOULD PRESENT THE WHITE -- THE BLACK AND WHITE OF THE SITUATION WE ARE DEALING WITH. THIS PRESENTS THE BIG PICTURE

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JOHNS COUNTY POSTPONE ANY DECISIONS ON THE HAMSTER REPORT UNTIL MARSH LANDING HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL SO WE MAY GIVE YOU THE TOTALITY OF THE ISSUES WE ARE DEALING WITH FOR YOU AND THE COMMISSION TO RENDER YOUR INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. AS THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS WITHIN MARSH LANDING I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE HAMSTER REPORT. I WOULD LIKE A QUICK OPPORTUNITY JUST TO POINT OUT SOME ITEMS I SAW IN THE REPORT.

THE REPORT MAKES MENTION OF REQUESTING ADDITIONAL SURVEYS FOR SELECT ACCESS ROADS. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THOSE SURVEYS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. AND THEY SHOW THE WATER HEIGHT -- I'M SORRY. THE ROAD HEIGHTS TO BE HIGHER AND/OR ABOVE WHAT WAS REQUESTED. IT MENTIONS PERFORMING STORM WATER ANALYSIS. AN ANALYSIS WAS PERFORMED AND THEY FOUND THEY MEET OR EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS.

I PERSONALLY AS WELL AS OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE OFFERED TO HELP IN ANYWAY TO ASSIST MR. HAMSTER WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. LITTLE TO NO DOCUMENTS OR REPORTS WERE REQUESTED AND NOW THE REPORT CONTAINS INACCURATE INFORMATION. IN THE JUNE 2022 MEETING WITH MR. HAMSTER HE COMMENDED THE WORK OF THE ASSOCIATION AND NOTED SPECIFICALLY THE PUMP STATION.

IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST HE HAS SEEN IN 35 YEARS.

SO MUCH ADDITIONAL UNREQUESTED INFORMATION WAS ADDED TO THE REPORT, YET NOT ONE ITEM NOTING THE SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS AND/OR IMPROVEMENTS OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM WERE NOTED.

I AM REQUESTING THE REPORT BE PULLED BACK SO ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. I AM AMY, 124 DEER ESTATES AND I LIVED IN MARSH LANDING FOR 25 YEARS.

I AM ADDRESSING PARAGRAPH 3 OF THE HAMSTER CONTRACT OF AUGUST 2022 REGARDING POPPED SLOPE -- POND SLOPES.

THE QUESTION WAS, QUOTE, DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT ST.

JOHNS COUNTY CAN MAN DADE 4-1 SLOPES FOR MARSH LANDINGS STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM PONDS ALTERATIONS, UNQUOTE.

THIS IS A LEGAL QUESTION WHICH WAS ANSWERED BY MR. WAYNE FLOWERS IN HIS REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS ON APRIL 19, 2022.

AND I AM QUOTING FROM THE TRANSCRIPT WHICH IS ON YOUR SCREEN OF THAT MEETING. QUOTE, THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR THE SIDE SLOPES OF THE PONDS IN THE 78 ORDINANCES.

THERE ARE CERTAINLY CRITERIA MANAGED BY THE ST. JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. THE 1986 ORDINANCE CONTAINS MORE DETAIL CRITERIA AND THERE IS A GRANDFATHER PROVISION ATTACHED TO THE 86 ORDINANCE. AND THEREFORE WE LOOK TO -- AND QUOTE, WE LOOK TO THE DISTRICT WHICH REVIEWED MARSH LANDING'S ENGINEER REPORT ON THE ENGINEERING AS WELL AS THEY PUT FORWARD THEIR OWN SITE INSPECTIONS RESULTING IN THE ISSUANCE OF MAY 21ST, 2021, ST. JOHNS RIVER LETTER SIGNED BY BRAD PURCELLE AT THE DISTRICT THAT CONCLUDED THE SIDE SLOPE CONDITIONS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY IN COMPLIANCE.

WHILE MR. HAMSTER ACKNOWLEDGED THE DISTRICT SUPPORT, THE DISTRICT STAFF APPROVAL AND THE DRAFT REPORT, HE DISCOUNTS METHODS USED BY OMEN ENGINEERING EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ACCEPTED BY THE DISTRICT AND CONCLUDES THAT POND SLOPES DO NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE PUBLIC SAFETY. THE POND SLOPES REVIEWED IN THE REPORT ARE ON A PRIVATE GOLF COURSE IN A PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITY. PLEASE NOTE THE RED HAZARD STATES ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE ARROWS THAT IDENTIFY THE WATER HAZARD ON THE GOLF COURSE. THIS INDICATES THE HAZARD AREAS

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WE ASK THAT THE INFORMATION IN THE DRAFT REPORT BE CHANGED TO REFLECT THE POND SLOPE COMPLIANCE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MA'AM. MA'AM, I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU GIVE YOUR PAPERWORK TO -- THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING. BJ -- [INAUDIBLE],.

>> A DEVELOPER WHO BUILT TOWNHOUSES WEST OF WALMART HAS POSTED NO TRESPASS SIGNS AT 36GR EADA IN DOWNTOWN ST.

AUGUSTINE. LET ME ENCOURAGE THIS BOARD TO CONTACT THE CITY MANAGER OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND MR. MCGARVY AND PLEASE CLEAN UP THE MATTRESS AND TRASH ON THE PROPERTY SO ST.

AUGUSTINE WILL NOT BE KNOWN AS TRASHVILLE.

ILLEGAL DRUGS WERE FOUND INSIDE THE HOUSE AT 12NUCOM STREET ON MARCH 24, 2023. THIS INFORMATION CAN BE SEEN ON ST. AUGUSTINE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S FACEBOOK PAGE.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE HOMEOWNER WHO ALLOWED ILLEGAL DRUGS INSIDE THE HOUSE? PEOPLE ARE WAITING TO FIND OUT.

SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTY BEFORE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IS A MATTER OF QUALITY OF LIFE VERSUS THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR. H-O-P-E.

HOPE. THAT'S EASTER TO ME.

I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES HERE, WELL, ONE MINUTE AND 252NDS.

DASH -RB -- ONE MINUTE AND 25 SECONDS.

I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE CAN DO IN THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

MY QUESTION TO THE BOARD IS IF YOU ARE STANDING IN THE AUDIENCE AS A DEMONSTRATOR QUIETLY, BUT ARE NOT GOING TO BE SPEAKING, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THIS FOR ANYONE THAT HAS AN ISSUE THAT CAN BRING IN 20 PEOPLE? TO ME THAT'S DEMONSTRATING, AND I DON'T BELIEVE MY INTERPRETATION OF THE RULES SHOULD ALLOW THAT. I THINK THE ONE THAT'S MAY BE STREAMING THIS WILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO TREAT ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE ONE WAY, WE SHOULD TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME WAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN? I NEED TO RESPOND BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HELP OUT THE SITUATION A LITTLE BIT, I HOPE. BJ, UP HERE.

HOW ABOUT -- LET ME ASK THE BOARD, BUT I WANT YOUR COMMENTS TOO. HOW ABOUT I CALL JOHN REAGAN AND TALK TO HIM INSTEAD OF MAKING THIS A LONG BUREAUCRATIC BACK AND FORTH. I WILL JUST CALL JOHN AND ASK HIM. I AM DISTRICT 5 WHICH COVERS SAINT ST. AUGUSTINE AND I WILL TALK TO JOHN ABOUT THIS AND TRY TO GET THIS RESOLVED QUICKLY. BJ, IF YOU WILL GIVE THE STAFF THE INFORMATION OR AFTER THE MEETING TO ME -- I CAUGHT MOST

OF IT. >> YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. >> WHO IS NEXT.

>> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING.

137 INDIAN HAMMOCK LANE. I AM A 20-YEAR RESIDENT OF MARSH LANDING. I SERVED ON THE MASTER ASSOCIATION BOARD FROM 2019 THROUGH 2021.

I HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF BOTH THE DRAFT AND THE CONTRACT THAT THE COUNTY HAD WITH DAVID HAMSTRA.

TONE PIN 2 -- REGARDING 10.2 ON PAGE 28, I WAS THE BOARD PRESIDENT DURING THE TIME THE LIMITED AND SPECIFIC BLANKET EASMEANT LANGUAGE DURING THE TIME THE -- DURING THE TIME IT WAS CHALLENGED BY THE PLAINTIFFS.

WHILE I WAS PRESENT IN THE MEETINGS I CAN CONFIRM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ENGINEERS ACCEPTED THE LANGUAGE WITHIN OUR COVENANT. THE BOARD ALSO RECEIVED A LEGAL

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY PREDECESSOR HERE AT MARCH LANDING FOR 20 YEARS AND SERVING THE BOARD NUMEROUS TIMES. 231 DEER HAVEN DRIVE IN MARSH LANDING. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF 2200 PLUS RESIDENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY AND AS REVIEWED BY MYSELF, OUR BOARD, OUR KOPBLG -- OUR CONSULTANT AND OUR GENERAL COUNCIL.

THIS IS A DRAFT REPORT. IT WILL BE THOROUGHLY REVIEWED AND VETTED. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO A COUPLE OF NUMEROUS CONCERNS.

I AM TALKING ABOUT PAGES THREE TO FIVE.

NUMBER ONE, NOWHERE IN THE REPORT IS THERE ANY DEFINITION NOR ROLE NOR SETTING OF THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS RECORDED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND HOW WE OPERATE IT.

TO START A TECHNICAL REPORT VALUE -- EVALUATING ANY SYSTEM WITHOUT DEFINING THE SAID SYSTEM, ITS ELEMENTS, ARE ROLES, CONSTRAINTS IS UNDERWHELMING AND INAPPROPRIATE.

THIS NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE REPORT OR ADDED IN -- AND REFERENCED SPECIFICALLY THE BAY SIS OF HIS OBSERVATIONS COME -- COMPARING IT TO THE COVENANTS. NUMBER 2, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC REFERENCE NOR CITATION TO WHICH SEBG NICK CAL -- TECHNICAL STAFF REPORT IS BEING USED AS A BASIS FOR MR. HAMSTRA'S OBSERVATION AND SUBSEQUENT RECOMMENDATION. NUMBER THREE AND FINALLY, THROUGHOUT THE REPORT WE DO NOT SEE A DE LYNN KWRAEUGS OF -- DELINEATIONS OF TASK ITEMS VERSUS THE OPINIONS OF MR. HAMSTRA. THE REPORT CONTAINS MULTIPLE RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS WITHOUT SUBSTANTIATING WHICH ORDINANCES HE IS REFERRING TO AND CITING OR ALLEGING WE DO NOT COMPLY WITH. WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE THIS DRAFT REPORT AND EDIT IT AND CORRECT IT AND REDACT IT UNTIL THE TIME IT COMPLIES WITH THE TASK YOU GAVE HIM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. SHERRY BADGER, SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. I CAME IN HERE A COUPLE -- A FEW WEEKS AGO AND TOLD YOU ABOUT -- AND I HAD PICKS TAOURBS OF THE -- I HAD PICTURES OF THE TRASH TRUCKS.

AND NOW THE TRASH TRUCKS ARE COMING IN AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING NOT EVEN A HUNDRE FEET FROM MY BEDROOM WINDOW.

THIS PICTURE SHOWS YOU WHY THEY HAVE GUIDELINES AND WHY THE COUNTY ENGINEERING SHOULD FOLLOW THEM.

THESE ROAD WIDTHS ARE NOT EVEN AS THE STATE OR COUNTY REQUIRES IN THEIR WIDTH. THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, I WAS COMING HOME AROUND THE CORNER AND THIS TRUCK RIGHT HERE IS MAKING A RIGHT HAPPENED TURN -- IS MAKING A RIGHT HAND TURN IN AND THIS TRUCK IS MAKING A LEFT HAND TURN OUT.

THIS SHOWS YOU THE ROAD WIDTHS THAT AREN'T EVEN APPROVED -- THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY, BUT NOT THE STATE IN THE WIDTHS THEY ARE. AND THIS IS THE ABILITY OF THESE TRUCKS TO BE MAKING THIS TURN. I HAVE BEEN HERE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THIS REQUIRES AT LEAST FIVE PHONE CALLS A DAY TO CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THIS DEVELOPER IS NOT DOING WHAT HE IS SUPPOSED TO DO. I ASKED YOU TO PUT SOMETHING UP TO RESTRAIN THE HEIGHT AND TO KEEP THE TRUCKS OUT.

IT FELL ON DEAF EARS. THERE IS NOBODY THAT CAN ENFORCE THIS UNLESS ONE OF THE COUNTY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT IS SITTING THERE OR CODE ENFORCEMENT IS SITTING THERE.

THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, ESPECIALLY WHEN THESE ROAD WIDTHS ARE NOT EVEN WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> THANK YOU, MS. BADGER.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM PAT DOREN. I AM RESIDENT OF MARSH LANDING FOR 25 YEARS. I LIVE IN UPON TAU VEE -- PONTE VIDRE BEACH. I NOTE THAT IT STATES THE LAKE LEVELS ARE 81.1 NAVD-88 TO OFFSET THE LACK OF DETENTION

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INSTEAD THE LAKE LEVELS WERE SET AT NEGATIVE 1.1 FEET BECAUSE THIS IS THE LEVEL REQUIRED IN THE ORIGINAL 1984 PERMIT.

THE PRECISE LANGUAGE FOR THE TRS PERMIT MODIFICATION IS AS FOLLOWS, QUOTE, FOR THIS MODIFICATION, THE APPLICANT IS MAINTAINED THE NORMAL WATER LEVEL OF THE POND SYSTEM AT THE DESIGN ELEVATION OF NEGATIVE 1.. THE STATEMENT IN THE REPORT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED AND THE COUNTY SHOULD WITHHOLD RELEASING THE FINAL REPORT UNTIL THIS AND OTHER CORRECTIONS ARE MADE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. CHRISTIE RICHLAND.

ST. JOHNS, FLORIDA. I AM HERE TODAY AS A SENIOR PROPERTY MANAGER FOR MARSH LANDING MASTER ASSOCIATION.

IN MY CAPACITY I RETAIN OFFICIAL RECORDS AS WELL AS SUPPORT THE COMMITTEES SPECIFIC TO TODAY THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WITH THEIR OPERATING AND RESERVE BUDGETS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE REPORT THAT OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT AND REFER TO SECTION 10.7. THIS SECTION DISCUSSES A STORM WATER INSPECTION PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY ONE COMMENT SAYS BASED ON VISUAL INSPECTION, SOME OF THE EXISTING CMP CULVERTS, IT APPEARS THEY ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR.

THIS COMMENTING IS CONCERNING TO THE COMMITTEES THAT I SUPPORT BECAUSE AT NO TIME DURING THIS DRAFT PROCESS DID DAVID HAMSTRA REACH OUT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE -- EXCUSE ME, THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEEN INCLUDED AS PART OF THE STUDY, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL HIM THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IN PLACE, PIPES ARE INSPECTED ANNUALLY AS WELL AS AN ANNUAL PROGRAM FOR CLEANOUT. ADDITIONALLY WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL HIM ABOUT OUR 30-YEAR RESERVE STUDY THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE PIPES AND ONGOING REPLACE PENT AND REPAIR PROGRAMS. SECTION 11 ALSO DISCUSSES SIMILAR STORM WATER MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. WITH THIS IN MIND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS SECTION BE EDITED TO EITHER REMOVE IT OR TO CORRECT THE STATEMENTS.

I ASK FOR MORE TIME BEFORE FINAL RELEASE OF THE REPORT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> HI. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS CHARLES, 129 TEAL POINT LANE PONTE VIDRE BEACH.

I LIVED IN MARSH LANDING FOR THE LAST 9 YEARS AND I ALSO SERVED AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEMBER FOR ONE OF THE SUB ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN MARSH LANDING FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE HAMSTRA REPORT AND I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 31 WHERE HE DISCUSSES THE DREDGING OF WATERWAYS AND TRIBUTARIES WITHIN MARSH LANDING.

NOWHERE IN THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND MR. HAMSTRA DID THE COUNTY ASK MR. HAMSTRA TO DISCUSS OR OPINE DREDGING OF WATERWAYS IN MARSH LANDING. FURTHERMORE, MOST OF THE WATERWAYS IN MARSH LANDING ARE NOT OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. FINALLY, JURISDICTION RESIDES WITH THE STATE DEP AND THE CORE OF ENGINEERS.

I THEREFORE JOIN IN THE REQUEST THAT YOU GIVE MARSH LANDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE VERY LENGTHY HAMSTRA REPORT SO AS TO HELP YOU ARRIVE AT A MORE BALANCED, WELL-INFORMED DECISION

REGARDING [INAUDIBLE]. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

WELCOME. >> MY NAME IS PETER CARPIN AND I AM THE TREASURER OF THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND I RESIDE AT 24476 HARBOR VIEW DRIVE. AS YOU HAVE HEARD, OUR COMMUNITY IS EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE DRAFT HAMSTRA REPORT.

THERE ARE NO DESCRIPTIONS OR EVEN AN OUTLINE OF OUR WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OPERATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO PROVIDE CONTEXT AND PERSPECTIVE. THERE IS NO MENTION OF OUR ONGOING MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND ANNUAL UPGRADING OF OUR PUMPS

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THERE IS NO COMMENT, AT LEAST TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT NO HOME INTERIORS HAVE BEEN FLOODED DUE TO THE FAILURE OF OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHICH IS DESIGNED TO HANDLE 25-YEAR RAINFALL EVENTS. NOT KING TIDES AND NOT STORM SURGES. IN ADDITION, WE NEED TIME FOR OUR ENGINEERS TO REVIEW THE REPORT IN MORE DETAIL GIVEN THE INACCURACIES FOUND FROM MY -- JUST EVEN MY REVIEW.

THERE APPEAR TO BE TOPICS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND SHOULD BE ELIMINATED. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS AND MUST DO'S MIXED IN WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND SHOULD DO'S AND OPINIONS. REALLY, TOO MANY ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WHICH HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED.

THERE'S A NEED TOO -- THERE'S A NEED TO MATCH THE REQUIREMENTS WITH THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE. AND THERE IS A SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. TO CONCLUDE, THE COMMISSIONER SHOULD PULL BACK THE DRAFT REPORT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THESE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> WELCOME.

>> I WAS AT THE AMPHITHEATER TWO WEEKS AGO AND FRIDAY NIGHT THERE WAS A WONDERFUL CONCERT. LEAVING WAS A HORRIFIC SCENE.

TWO PEOPLE WERE HIT BY BIKES. IT HAPPENED AT DAVIS SHORES.

PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS WANTING TO HOPE OR REQUEST IS YOU PUT IN TRAFFIC FLASHING LIGHTS THEY HAVE AT THE BEACHES AND DOWNTOWN IN THAT STRETCH OF TOWN. THERE SHOULD BE SOME -- I WOULD THINK -- YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE POLICE EVERY TIME YOU GO TO A CONCERT WHERE PEOPLE CROSS AND PEOPLE GO DOWN BY THE CHURCH AND CROSS THERE AND THEY GO UP BY THE SURF STATION AND CROSS THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME LIGHTS THERE. AND ALSO ON DAVIS SHORES LIKE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PUB AND THE BARS WHERE PEOPLE ARE BOUNCING ACROSS, I BELIEVE A KID DIED DOWN THERE EARLIER THIS YEAR. IN BOTH INCIDENTS, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBOD WAS INTOXICATED. THE DRIVER JUST DIDN'T SEE THEM.

LIGHTS WOULD BE GREAT. >> SIR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I SAW WE HAD SOME STAFF HERE EARLIER TODAY.

I AM NOT SEE PHR-G WALLED -- MR. WOULD YOU SEE WE GET YOUR NAME AND INFORMATION. I WANT TO GET THE EXACT LOCATION WHERE YOU THINK THESE LIGHTS COULD GO.

WITH GOVERNMENT IT TAKES LONGER THAN I WANT IT TO TAKE.

>> AND THEY ARE CALLING FOR LIGHTS.

I HAVE HEARD IT IS ABOUT THE LIGHTHOUSE AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THE LIGHTHOUSE COME AROUND, BUT THE FLASHING THINGS AT THE BEACH WITH THE FLAGS, I MEAN THAT'S ALL YOU REALLY NEED.

RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE FORT. PEOPLE DRINK RIGHT THERE AT THE NO NAME PUB AND NOBODY EVER GETS HIT THERE, BUT THERE ARE FLASHING LIGHTS AND IT MAKES IT PRETTY CLEAR.

>> CAN WE HAVE SOMEBODY GET WITH HIM TO GET HIS INFORMATION SO WE CAN START WORKING ON THE PRO IS SUCCESS?

>> NORMALLY -- WORKING ON THE PROCESS.

>> IF I MAY? >> PLEASE.

>> SINCE I AM DISTRICT 5 COMMISSIONER I COVER THIS AREA ROUGHLY FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN TO THE 312 AND ACTUALLY BEYOND 312 ALL ON THE BOULEVARD IS A1A AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- [INAUDIBLE] AND WE HAVE SEVERAL ONGOING COMMUNICATIONS RIGHT NOW. MR. CHAIRMAN I DON'T WANT TO JUMP AHEAD, BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING YOU MAY BE SIGNING OFF ON A REQUEST TO DOT WITH US FOR TWO CITIES TO LOOK AT ISSUES. I MAY BE AHEAD OF MYSELF, BUT THE STAFF WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH ME.

YOU MIGHT -- >> YES, SIR.

>> I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY BEACH COMMISSION AND WE MET ONCE WITH DOT. I MET WITH A FELLOW YESTERDAY WHO HAS THE VERY SAME CONCERNS YOU DO.

I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON THE SORT OF ALMOST ANECDOTAL, BUT IT IS FACT THAT IT IS A VERY, VERY DARK AREA.

>> IT IS SO DARK. >> IT IS DARK IN FRONT OF THE BLACK FLY. WE HAD A NUMBER OF FATALITIES, PEDESTRIANS. IT IS ALSO VERY DARK AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE AMPHITHEATER. WE DISCUSSED IT YESTERDAY AND WE ARE LOOKING TO PUTTING UP LIGHTS ALONG THAT STRETCH IN FRONT OF THE AMPHITHEATER. WE ARE WORKING ON IT.

>> YOU DON'T EVEN NOTICE IT UNTIL YOU TRY TO WALK.

>> IT IS A PROBLEM YOU RAISED AND YOUR POINTS ARE ALL WELL TAKEN. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE UH RESPONSE THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT, AT LEAST I AM WITH DILLON AND I THINK THE STAFF COULD WEIGH IN, BUT I DON'T SEE HIM. IN ANY EVENT I WANTED TO LET YOU

KNOW. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE IT.

>> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS STEVE LOVELAND AND LIVE IN PONTE VIDRA BEACH.

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AND I CAME TO WORK HERE IN 1981 AND HAVE WORN MANY HATS IN THE 42 YEARS I HAVE BEEN THERE. SINCE I FORMED MARSH LANDING MANAGEMENT COMPANY IN 1990, ONE OF OUR GREATEST RESPONSIBILITIES HAS BEEN TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN MARSH LANDING. WHEN DISCUSSING STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, IT IS COMMON TO HEAR THE DESIGN CRITERIA IS TO MEET A 25-YEAR STORM. IN KEEPING WITH THE REGULATION, MARSH LANDING WAS DESIGNED TO EFFECTIVELY TREAT RAINWATER THAT FALLS UP TO 8.6 INCHES OF RAIN IN A TKWO 4-HOUR -- IN A 24-HOUR PERIOD. I KNOW OF NO HOME -- [INADDABLE] WE HAVE HAD BACK UP PUMPS TO HANDLE THE SITUATION.

PRIOR TO 2016, MARSH LANDING RESIDENTS SEEMED TO BE QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROTECTION THAT THE SYSTEM PROVIDED THEM.

IRONICALLY IT WAS AFTER HURRICANE MATTHEW BROUGHT SIX FEET OF STORM SURGE -- EXCESS OF SIX FEET INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE MARSH LANDING MASTER ASSOCIATION AND MARSH LANDING MANAGEMENT COMPANY WERE SUED. WE WERE SUED BECAUSE THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FAILED TO KEEP THE FLOODWATERS FROM RISING. WE WERE APPARENTLY EXPECTED TO KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENNG WITH PUMPS DESIGNED FOR SOMETHING ELSE ALTOGETHER. LAWSUITS LEAD TO INVESTIGATIONS ON EVERY LEVEL THE LITIGANTS COULD THINK OF.

AND NOW FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS RESIDENTS ARE STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THE PEG TKPWAU -- PEGASUS REPORT AND THE IDEA OF FLOODING AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY. IN THEIR REPORT, PEGASUS ADDRESSES EVERY DEFICIENCY THEY CAN FIND IN A 35-YEAR-OLD COMMUNITY. NEVER ONCE STATED THAT NEITHER PUMPS NOR THE BERMS OF 3.9 FEET WOULD PREVENT ANOTHER SIX FEET OF STORM SURGE. RATHER THE GUIDANCE THEY CHOSE TO SHARE AS A COUNTY ORDINANCE MUST ADDRESS ANY STORM WATER MANAGEMENT DEFICIENCIES THAT WOULD CAUSE FLOODING OR POOR DRAINAGE. THEY DON'T EVEN DEFINE IN THE 41 PAGES WHAT FLOODING OR POOR DRAINAGE ARE.

MARSH LANDING IS ONE OF MANY COASTAL COMMUNITIES WHERE HOMES ARE PROTECTED ONLY BY THEIR FINISHED ELEVATION.

I URGE THE COUNTY TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE RISKS AND THE REALITIES OF LIVING UNDER THESE CONDITIONS AND NOT TO CONDONE FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS OR MEANINGLESS, INEFFECTIVE

DEMANDS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> I AM ROBERT AND I LIVE AT 7480 FOUNDERS WAY IN MARSH LANDINGS HOA2 SECTION. FOR MONTHS NOW I AND MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN DESCRIBING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE POND FRONTAGE PROPERTIES ARE SLIDING AWAY INTO THE HOA [INAUDIBLE]. WE HAVE PRESENTED THE DAMAGE WHICH MEASURES IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TODAY AND MAYBE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS GOING FORWARD.

FOR MANY HOURS TO THIS BODY AS WELL AS THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. THE CONDITION WAS CAUSED BY A PRECIPITOUS DECISION TO LOWER THE POND LEVELS.

POND LEVELS EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE RAMIFICATIONS. NOW WE AS HOMEOWNERS ARE SUFFERING THOSE CONSEQUENCES. 1984 PERMITS WE ARE CITED FOR VERIFICATIONS THAT THE PONDS ARE TOO HIGH AND A CAUSE FOR THE PLAINTIFF FLOODING. YET THE PERMITS CLEARLY INDICATE THAT RETENTION PONDS ARE THERE TO ACCEPT THE EXTRAORDINARY RAIN EVENTS. NOT HURRICANE, OCEAN OR TITLE -- OR TIDAL SURGES. OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE WERE AWARE THAT THIS BODY HIRED MR. H AMSTRA AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TO LOOK INTO MARSH LANDING'S STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN GENERAL. WEEK AFTER WEEK I AND MY NEIGHBORS AND THE HOA2 BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ASKED YOU TO ALLOW MR. HAMSTRA TO SPEAK OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE HAVING PROPERTY DAMAGE ON HOA2 FINES. ONLY IN THIS MATTER CAN HE MAKE ASSESSMENTS BASED ON A FAIR, BALANCED AND FULLY INFORMED BASIS. NOT ONLY DID WE NOT RECEIVE ACCESS. WE NOW LEARN THAT MR. HAMSTRA

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THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF YET ANOTHER ILL ADVISED DECISION THAT EVEN BASIC LEVELS OF COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL YOU IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. I CANNOT BEGIN TO EXPRESS HOW OFFENDED I AM AT THIS OBVIOUSLY BIASED AND SLANTED BEHAVIOR TO BLATANTLY FAVOR ONE SIDE OF AN ONGOING LITIGATION.

I BELIEVE THIS BOARD TURNED A DEAF EAR TO THE REQUEST EVER HUNDREDS OF HOA2 HOMEOWNERS VIA THEIR BOARD REPRESENTATIVES TO ADDRESS THE POND EMERGENCY. TIS REPORT IS ONE SIDED AND BIASED. WE ASK THE CONCERNS OF ALL HOA2 RESIDENTS NOT JUST THREE LITIGA ATS -- LITIGANTS BE PRESENTED EQUALLY OR THE REPORT BE DISCARDED ENTIRELY.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I SPEAK?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY DISTRICT , DISTRICT 4. I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE ARE HANDLING THIS AND HOW WE ARE GOING FORWARD WITH THIS. CAN I HAVE SOME SORT OF INFORMATION ON HOW THIS WILL BE A FAIR PROCESS GOING FORWARD?

>> I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE TIME TO DISCUSS THAT.

I KNOW I HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FOR STAFF AND FOR OUR OFFICE COUNTY ATTORNEYS. WOULD YOU MIND IF WE FINISH PUBLIC COMMENT SO WE CAN CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE

DISCUSSED? >> MY NAME IS MARK POPOVICH AND I LIVE AT HIDDEN COVE LANE IN MARSH LANDING AND I LIVED THERE FOR 31 YEARS. I'M CURRENTLY ON THE MASTER BOARD AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU ON THE DRAFT REPORT PROVIDED TO YOU BY DAVID HAMSTRA AND PEGASUS ENGINEERING WHICH I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A DRAFT REPORT ONLY AND YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN YOUR COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE -- TO PAGE 32.

THERE IS NO CLARIFICATION PROVIDED OR GIVEN THAT THE CAUSES OF FLOODING LISTED WITHIN HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION 1 ARE OPINIONS OF THE PLAINTIFFS ONLY. THE SECTION READS BASED ON THE COORDINATION MEETINGS HELD WITH THE HOMEOWNERS WHO RESIDE IN HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION 1, THERE WERE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS OF SIGNIFICANT FLOODING OCCURRENCES PRIMARILY DUE TO THE LACK OF FLOOD PROTECTION BERMS AND INABILITY OF THE EXISTING STORM WATER PUMPS TO REMOVE THE FLOODWATERS.

OR IN SOME CASES DUE TO INOPERABLE PUMPS.

THIS STATEMENT IS CLEARLY EXPRESSING THE OPINIONS OF PLAINTIFF AND SHOULD BE CLARIFIED AND REMOVED FROM THE

FINAL REPORT WHICH I URGE THE >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS YA AJ AND I LIVE IN MARSH LANDING. SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE PRESENTED A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THE HAMSTRA REPORT INCLUDES THAT WERE NOT IN THE PROJECT. THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE CONTRACT. I AM AMAZED OF THE OMISSION IN THE HAMSTRA REPORT. WE HAVE BEEN COMING HERE FOR WEEKS AND SHOUTING FROM THE ROOFTOPS THE DAMAGE THAT IT HAS CAUSED TO A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IN MARSH LANDING.

LITERALLY FROM THE ROOFTOPS BECAUSE OUR BACKYARDS ARE SLIDING INTO THE PONDS. IN SPITE OF THAT, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN TO HAMSTRA TO SHARE OUR CONCERNS SO IT CAN BE REFLECTED IN THE REPORT. I SAID THIS MANY TIMES, IF THOSE CONCERNS ARE NOT SHARED, THEN THE REPORT IS INHERENTLY BIASED.

AND NOW WE KNOW THE REPORT IS INHERENTLY BIASED.

IT IS EBGSZ TRAOEPLLY -- IT IS EXTREMELY BIASED.

IT DOES NOT CONCERN THE RESIDENTS FACING AN EMERGENCY TODAY. IT SPENT THE ENTIRE REPORT THAT HAPPENED TWICE IN 140 YEARS. TWICE IN 140 YEARS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOWED. PEOPLE SPENT TENS OF THOUSANDS IN FIXING THE PROPERTY WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE RAMIFICATIONS.

DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE HANDBOOK ITSELF SAYS THAT LOWERING THE WATER LEVELS CAUSE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS TO THE STABILITY OF THE POND. WE ARE BAFFLED WHY THIS REPORT WAS SENT OUT THE REPORT IS BEING WEAPONIZED TO SCALE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE.

I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 9 YEARS. NOBODY COMPLAINED ABOUT THEIR HOUSE BEING FLOODED BECAUSE OF A RAIN STORM.

WHEN THE OCEAN COMES TO YOUR DOOR THERE IS NOT MUCH YOU CAN

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BUT THIS WILL BE WEAPONIZED TO TALK ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF MARSH LANDING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND I AM SHOCKED THAT THIS REPORT WAS RELEASED.

I HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WILL SERIOUSLY REMOVE THIS REPORT OR UDATE IT TO THE TIME WHEN ALL OF THE CONCERNS AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ARE REFLECTED IN THE REPORT AND NOT JUST LITIGANTS LOOKING FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WELCOME.

>> K*ET KES -- KEITH KESSLER. SOCIAL MEDIA CAN BE A WONDERFUL THING, BUT WHEN USED BY THE WRONG PERSON TO PAD THEIR OWN POCKETS IT CAN BE DANGEROUS. HE USE ITSELF TO CONSTANTLY PEDDLE LIES. DON'T BELIEVE ME.

BELIEVE ONE OF YOUR OWN. AFTER YOUR 11/16/21 MEETING THEY POSTED THAT YOU WOULD AGREE TO SUE MARSH LANDING FOR $100,000.

OBVIOUSLY A LIE. AFTER REPEATED ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE IT, HE WOULDN'T. I SENT AN EMAIL AND READ FROM THE BOTTOM UP. HELLO, I HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU. MR. HENSLEY IS TELLING ME THE COMMISSIONERS DECIDED AT THE LAST MINUTE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE $100,000 STUDY OF MARSH LANDING AND MAKE MARSH LANDING PAY FOR. IT I LISTENED TO THE MEETING AND HEARD THE DISCUSSION AND THOUGHT IT WAS TABLED.

I DIDN'T HEAR A MOTION, SECOND OR VOTE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS REQUIRED OR NOT. I KNOW YOU ARE BUSY AND A SHORT, SIMPLE REPLY IS SUFFICIENT. DID THE COMMISSIONERS DECIDE TO DO THE STUDY AT MARSH LANDING'S EXPENSE? MR. BLOCKER REPLIED, KEITH, THE BOARD DID NOT APPROVE THAT MATTER. I THINK YOUR RECOLLECTION OF THE MEETING IS ACCURATE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DIRECTED THE STAFF TO BRING INFORMATION AND OPTIONS FOR HOW TO HELP RESOLVE THE I CANNER AOU -- RESOLVE THE ISSUE FOR ALL PARTIES. SAYING MR. HENSLEY IS LYING ABOUT THE COMMENTS I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING CEASE AND DESIST LETTER. I DIDN'T ENGAGE WITH HIM AGAIN AND THAT IS UNTIL HE ONCE AGAIN CONTACTED ME ON FACEBOOK WITH FURTHER LIES. I HOPE YOU CLEARLY SEE THAT HE MOCKS YOU, OUR VOLUNTEER BOARD MEMBERS AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHILE TRYING TO ACTIVELY RECRUIT LIT -- LITIGANTS.

THIS IS AN EXAM ELF HUNDREDS OF POST THAT'S ARE FALSE.

HE HAS BEEN SENDING OUT POSTS FOR YEARS TO ATTRACT ATTENTION.

NOTHING COMES OF IT. HE ACCUSES THE BOARD, THE PREVIOUS BOARDS AND HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS OF VAST CONSPIRACIES.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY YOUNG OR OLD, NEW RESIDENT OR LONGER TERM, ENGAGED OR NOT ARE ALL BANDED TOGETHER TO FLOOD OUR OWN HOMES. AS SOMEONE THAT HAS A GARAGE THAT HAS FLOODED THE LAST FOUR STORMS, I DON'T REALLY WANT MOTHER NATURE TO HIT US -- HIT ANY OF US AGAIN.

YET, IT SEEMS HE RELISHES IN THE DESTRUCTION AND MISERY.

TRUST, BUT VERIFY DOES NOT EVEN APPLY HERE.

I STRONGLY AND LET ME REPEAT STRONGLY URGE YOU TO DISTRUST AND COMPLETELY VERIFY EVERY WORD UTTERED BY THIS MAN.

WHILE HE ASKS FOR YOUR HELP TO YOUR FACE AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING, REMEMBER THAT HE MOCKS YOU FROM BEHIND.

YOU HAVE TO GIVE HIM THREE MINUTES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE HIM. AND PLEASE DON'T.

IT IS LUDICROUS THE LIES HE PERPETUATES TIME AND TIME AND

TIME AGAIN. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> WELCOME. >> RICHARD NORWOOD.

FOR MONTHS I HAVE BEEN PRESENTING THIS BOARD AND COUNTY ATTORNEYS WITH EVIDENCE OF PUBLIC WORKS FRAUD THAT HAS COST ME PROPERTY THAT CAN ONLY BE RESTORED WITH A RETAINING WALL AND PRIVACY FENCE AND LAST MONTH QUOTED AT $26,000.

I EVEN OBTAINED AND FURNISHED A MOST ATTRACTIVE CONTRACT AND ELECTED THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY TO HAVE IT BUILT BY A TRUSTED LOCAL CONTRACTOR. HOWEVER, MR. WHITEHURST MADE IT QUITE CLEAR IN THE LAST MEETING AND I QUOTE, AND I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU EITHER, END QUOTE, AFTER EXPRESSING HIS FINDING AS THE SAME OPINION OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS, THE BOARD AND FDLE, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT NO FRAUD EXISTED. WHAT MR. WHITEHURST DIDN'T MENTION WAS THE FDLE REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE AT THE STATE LEVEL NOT BECAUSE OF LACK OF FRAUD, BUT MY PROCEDURAL ENDEAVOR OF NOT SUBMITTING A REQUIRED POLICE REPORT WITH MY COMPLAINT.

I HAVE SENSE FILED A POLICE REPORT THAT ACCORDING TO SHERIFF

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HOWEVER, A MEETING TO DETERMINE THAT OFFICER'S QUALIFICATION BY ACCREDITATION HAS BEEN POSTPONED UNTIL AUGUST.

IN THE MEANTIME, ELIZABETH GONZALEZ, A NEWLY APPOINTED ASSISTANT IG, SENT TWO DEPUTY POLICE OFFICERS TO MY HOME TO ASSIST ME FOR AN INVOLUNTARY BAKER ACT OF PSYCHIATRIC HOLD AT THE HOSPITAL. I OBTAINED PROOF OF HER ACTION UNDER THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

THAT WAS HER FOLLOW-UP TO MY FRAUD COMPLAINT WHEN I WROTE A SATIRICAL COMPARISON OF HIRING A LAWYER TO ALSO ENJOYING BANKRUPTCY AND POTENTIAL SUICIDAL IDEALIZATION FROM BEING A FRAUD VICTIM. I HAVE EXHAUSTED BY RIGHTS WITH THIS CORRUPT COUNTY THROUGH MEETINGS WITH A PACK OF REMORSELESS LEADERSHIP FIGURES CLAIMING TO SERVE SPECIAL DUTIES TO OUR KPHUPBT RESIDENTS. I REGRETFULLY ACCEPT THE FACT NO FINANCIAL AID IS FORTH COMING FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY GOVERNMENT. YOU HAVE PROVEN EMPHATICALLY TO ME THAT YOU ARE ALL OF THE OPINION THAT ANY REASONABLE PERSON WOULD IN EXCHANGE FOR ONE UNPAID DOLLAR IN A 10 BY 12-FOOT CONCRETE DRIVEWAY PAD UNNECESSARILY GRANT ENJOYMENT AND UTILITY BY 175 FEET OF VALUABLE STREET FRONT PROPERTY PRIVACY WITHOUT MAKING A DECLARATION OF ANY FRAUD BEING INVOLVED. IT IS ALL BASED ON A SIGNATURE COERCED BY THE COUNTY LIES AND THE PHYSICAL DEEDS, BUT MOSTLY BY A POLITICAL RESPONSE OF DENY, DENY, DENY.

I HAVE NO THANK YOUS OTHER THAN ALLOWING ME A HOPE THIS TRAVESTY IS WIDELY KNOWN. HAVE I PUBLICLY OUTED THIS ADMINISTRATION OF INCOMPETENT SENIOR FRAUD RESOLUTION ABILITIES, ESPECIALLY AFTER TRYING TO WHISK ME OFF TO THE LOONEY BIN FOR EXPOSE -- EXPOSING AND RESTRICTING YOUR

COLLECTIVE PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> WELCOME. >> I AM TAMARA, 200 OUTLOOK DRIVE. I AM HERE TO SPEAK OF THE AFFECT OF EVERY DEVELOPMENT ON OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO MY FAMILY AND I MOVED FROM WASHINGTON STATE TO FLORIDA AND WE DELIBERATELY CHOSE ST. JOHN COUNTY FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. HOWEVER ST. JOHN COUNTY LEADERSHIP HAS LET US DOWN. UPON ARRIVAL WE ENROLLED OUR FIFTH GRADER IN HER ZONED SCHOOL ONLY TO DISCOVER THERE WERE THREE TIMES AS MANY STUDENTS IN THE NEWLY BUILT SCHOOL AS THE SCHOOL WAS DESIGNED TO HOUSE. AS A CONSEQUENCE, RESOURCE CLASSES SUCH AS ART, MUSIC AND SPANISH WERE RARELY, IF EVER, TAUGHT BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY WAS NOT SPACE TO HOLD THESE CLASSES.

WE SUBSEQUENTLY MOVED OUR DAUGHTER TO PRIVATE SCHOOL SO SHE COULD RECEIVE THE WELL-ROUNDED EDUCATION WE SHOT -- WE THOUGHT SHE WOULD RECEIVE IN PUBLIC SCHOOL.

SHE REMAINED THERE FOR TWO YEARS THEREAFTER.

THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR HER ZONED SCHOOL HAS NOT BEEN OVERCROWDED. WANTING A LARGER SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT WITH MORE OPPORTUNITY SHE ASKED TO RETURN TO PUBLIC SCHOOL AND WE AGREED TO THAT.

HOWEVER, WITHIN TWO MONTHS OUR DAUGHTER WAS TELLING US THAT MOST OF HER TEACHERS WERE VERY UNHAPPY AND TWO OF THEM ANNOUNCED TO THEIR CLASS THAT'S THEY WERE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT OUTSIDE OF THE TEACHING PROFESSION.

THIS STRUCK ME AS HIGHLY UNUSUAL SO I BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS AND I SUBSEQUENTLY DISCOVERED SOMETHING SHOCKING.

END OF JANUARY THERE WERE 79 CLASSROOMS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WITHOUT A FULL TIME TEACHER. IN ADDITION, MORE CLASSROOMS HAVE LONG-TERM SUBSTITUTES WITH NO EXPERTISE IN THE SUBJECT MATTER THEY ARE TEACHING. WORSE STILL, EVERY SINGLE DAY STUDENTS ARE SITTING IN GYMS LOOKING AT THEIR PHONES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO TEACHERS AND NO SUBSTITUTES FOR THEM THAT DAY.

SOME STUDENTS IN BRICK AND MORTAR ARE HAVING TO LEARN VIRTUALLY BECAUSE THE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE A TEACHER FOR THEM. HOW IS THIS ACCEPTABLE? I AM THEREFORE HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR THREE THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, PLEASE CONSIDER THE STATE OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN APPROVING NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.

IF THE DISTRICT CANNOT STAFF THE SCHOOLS IT ALREADY HAS, HOW IS IT GOING TO STAFF ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS? NUMBER TWO, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS OUR COUNTY HAD THE TEACHER SHORTAGE IS LACK OF COMPETITIVE PAY.

SOMEHOW THE MORE FORWARD-THINKING LEADERSHIP IN DUVALL, NASSAU CLAY AND FLAGLER COUNTY SAW THE NEED FOR A TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT EDUCATION. GET THE ISSUE TO THE VOTERS AND HAVE IT PASSED. ST. JOHNS COUNTY MUST DO THE SAME IF WE WANT TO STOP LOSING TEACHERS TO THESE COUNTIES WHICH PAY MORE. I ASK YOU TO ENCOURAGE YOUR SCHOOL BOARD COLLEAUES TO SUPPORT A VALID INITIATIVE FOR THIS PURPOSE IN THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION.

NUMBER 3, I ASK THAT YOU STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOUR SCHOOL BOARD COLLEAGUES TO ACCEPT THE UNION'S LATEST PROPOSAL FOR INCREASED TEACHER PAY BECAUSE WITHOUT GOOD TEACHERS, THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WILL SUFFER AND

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>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> WE HEARD A LOT FROM MARSH LANDING. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, YOU WANTED TO GET SOME ANSWERS FROM STAFF. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NOW WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK THE QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY

COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. >> WELL, I MEAN, WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN HERE -- LET'S SEE, TWO MONTHS NOW.

ENOUGH PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE COME HERE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION, I MEAN, AS WELL AS THE OTHER SIDE, AGAIN, I'M STILL CONCERNED BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THE EXACT INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO GO FORWARD, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I WOULD LOVE SOME SO THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE WHAT OUR PROGRESS IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THIS DISTRICT. I MEAN, IT AFFECTS 2000 PEOPLE.

>> DO YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS? OR ACTION I SHOULD SAY?

>> DEFINITELY. WE SHOULD MEET REGARDING THE PROGRESS OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS AND WHEN THAT WILL COME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE? IS THERE ANY?

I DON'T KNOW. >> LET ME GIVE A SHORT ANSWER.

>> I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD. THANK YOU.

>> WHAT I'M AWARE OF AND HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I BELIEVE THE HAMSTRA REPORT WAS SUBMITTED TO US TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY A WEEK AGO YESTERDAY, AND IT HAS BEEN UNDER REVIEW BY BOTH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IN TALKING WERE REX TO PRESENT TO US ON APRIL 18TH COMMISSION MEETING, AND AS MOST PEOPLE SPOKE, IT IS A DRAFTING FOR THE SUBJECT TO STAFF SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. IT IS NOT FINAL IF WHATEVER IS IN THE REPORT IS NOT A FINAL WORD THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED WITH MR. HAMSTRA. IT IS GOING TO BE FILTERED OR AMENDED AND CHANGED AND REVIEWED BY THE ENTIRE STAFF FOR US TO CONSIDER AND RESPOND TO AND MAKE DECISIONS.

IT IS PREMATURE TO BE EVEN DISCUSSING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE LIST OF THE DRAFT REPORT BECAUSE THEY MAY CHANGE.

IN -- IF WE START DISCUSSING THE DRAFT REPORT, THEN TWO WEEKS LATER IT IS SOMEWHAT CHANGED. THE UNDERSTANDING IS WE ARE SHOOTING FOR APRIL 18TH AND I WILL SAY THAT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IN TALKING WITH REX, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HOA HAS REQUESTED AN EXTENSION OF TIME.

AND IN FAIRNESS TO THEM, HAMSTRA HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR AND THE REPORT JUST CAME OUT A WEEK AGO ON MONDAY, YESTERDAY. THAT'S PROBABLY CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION IF YOU SO DESIRE. AM I MAKING SENSE?

>> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK A SIDE.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE AN ACCURATE RESULT OF WHAT IS TRUE.

WE HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING FROM BOTH SIDES.

CAN THAT BE DONE IN TWO WEEKS? >> IF I MAY, I WOULD SAY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I HAVE TO ASK THE LAWYERS.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS RIGHT NOW.

IT IS OUR GOAL TO HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE YOU ON APRIL 18TH.

I CAN -- I CANNOT GUARANTEE IT TODAY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RUSH IT IF IT IS NOT READY. I WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING COMMISSIONER DEAN ELUDED TO. UNDER DRAFT REPORT, UNDER FLORIDA LAW, DRAFTS ARE PUBLIC RECORD.

EVERYONE HAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS, SO WE RECEIVED A PLETHORA OF PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST LAST WEEK AND WE PROMPTLY FULFILLED THEM AS IS OUR DUTY.

EVERYONE HAS SEEN A ROUGH DRAFT. EVERYONE HAS REACTIONS TO IT.

I THINK THEY ARE AWARE OF IT, BUT PASSIONATE ABOUT IT SO THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO IT AS IS THEIR RIGHT.

I WANT TO REITERATE ONE MORE TIME THIS IS THE DRAFT REPORT.

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THAT'S THE MOST CONCRETE INFORMATION I HAVE AT THIS

JUNCTURE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONER ALAIMO? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WHO CAME OUT AND SPOKE.

I KNOW THEY ARE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

I KNOW IT IS STILL IN THE DRAFT FORM, BUT THE COMPLAINT IS THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO MR. HAMSTR A TO VOICE THEIR CONCERN. IS THAT NOT THE CASE?

>> IN A GENERAL SENSE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BOTH SIDES HAD A MEETING WITH MR. HAMSTRA.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE MEETINGS WERE EQUAL LENGTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERY HOA SUBGROUP WITHIN MARSH LANDING WAS INFORMED OR IF IT WAS JUST ONE OF THE SUB-HOA'S THAT HAD THAT MEETING WITH MR. HAMSTRA. I AM NOT SURE HOW THEY COORDINATED IT. BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BOTH SIDES DID GET TO MEET WITH MR. HAMSTRA WHILE HE WAS IN HIS

REPORT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ALAIMO. I WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I WILL TRY NOT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS.

WE WILL JUST SAY THAT WE HEARD ROUGHLY AN HOUR OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOSTLY ON MARSH LANDING.

I WILL GO POINT BY POINT BECAUSE I WAS TAKING NOTES.

THERE IS A NOTION THAT ONE PERSON SAID THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SET A HIGHER STANDARD FOR MARSH LANDING.

THERE WAS A STATEMENT MADE THAT THERE IS SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT.

THERE IS A SENSE OF SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT ON THESE FOLKS VERSUS OTHER FOLKS. I KNOW THAT WHEN THIS HAPPENED, COMMISSIONER BLOCK WAS TRYING TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF MARSH LANDING. HE HAD RESIDENTS COMING TO US AND THEY WERE UPSET FOR A YEAR BEFORE WE TOOK ACTION ON THIS.

YOU GET THE SENSE HAVING READ THE DRAFT REPORT THAT THERE IS SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT OR THEY ARE SETTING A HIGHER STANDARD OF ONE COMMUNITY OVER THE OTHERS. THAT'S NOT A GOAL THAT I -- I

DON'T WANT TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. >> THERE IS NO SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, BUT REMEMBER THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, LIKE MOST AROUND THE STATE, MAYBE ALL-AROUND THE STATE, ARE COMPLAINT DRIVEN. WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT GETS A COMPLAINT FROM A CONSTITUENT OR A CITIZEN, THEY INVESTIGATE IT.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF VOCAL PARTICIPANTS IN THIS MATTER.

IT HAS GOTTEN INCREASED ATTENTION, BUT THERE IS NO HEIGHTENED STANDARD. THERE IS NO SINGLE OUT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS ADDRESSING THE COMPLAINTS IS HOW THIS GOT STARTED AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF PASSION NATIONAL CITIZENS -- PASSIONATE CITIZENS, AS THEY SHOULD BE.

IT IS NOT BEING HANDLED ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE WOULD AROUND THE COUNTY THAT WOULD HAVE SIMILAR

CIRCUMSTANCES. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE 790 CASES RIGHT NOW. 7090.

790. I AM DOUBTFUL IN MY MIND THAT ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE AS COMMISSIONERS OR THE STAFF HAS DONE IS SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. IT DOESN'T COMPUTE.

I RELY ON NUMBERS AND FACTS, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT 790 CURRENT, ONGOING CASES RIGHT NOW.

>> I WANT TO ASK MR. TAYLOR AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE DRAFT REPORT FROM MR. HAMSTRA, WE HAVE A LIT -- LITANY INACCURACIES IN THE REPORT. WILL WE BE FILTERING THROUGH THE

REPORT LOOKING FOR INACCURACIES? >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. HAMSTRA AND TRYING TO SCHEDULE THAT NOW.

THE LANDOWNER -- THE HOMEOWNER THAT HAS FILED THE COMPLAINTS, THEY HAVE SENT A THREE-PAGE TO MR. HAMSTRA OF THEIR CONCERNS OF HIS REPORT. I HAVE OFFERED THE SAME TO THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.

THEY DID ASK THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE A REBUTTAL REPORT.

THAT'S HOW THEY WANTED TO HANDLE THAT.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

HE IS HIS OWN EXPERT SO I CAN'T TELL HIM WHAT TO DO.

I WILL HAVE CONCERNS AND I WILL HAVE THINGS I WILL TRY TO TALK HIM THROUGH AND I WILL TRY TO RELAY THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP TO HIM SO IF HE CAN MAKE ANY CLARIFICATIONS TO SAY WHICH PORTIONS ARE ENFORCEABLE BY THE COUNTY AND WHICH ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE COUNTY. THAT'S HELPFUL.

IT ULTIMATELY WILL BE MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT.

OUR STAFF WILL NOT DIRECT HIM IN THE REPORT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

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STANDARDS. >> BUT THERE ARE ACCUSATIONS OF BIAS IN THE REPORT. AND THEY ASKED FOR SURVEYS AND ANALYSIS AND IT DOESN'T -- IT IS AN ANALYSIS OF CERTAIN -- ANALYSIS OF STORM SURGE SYSTEMS IN THE COMMUNITY.

TRIPP SAYS THOSE ANALYSISES -- GOODNESS GRACIOUS.

THOSE SURVEYS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED.

IS THERE A WAY FOR THE COUNTY TO GET WITH MR. RICHLAND AND GET THOSE SURVEYS AND GET THAT ANALYSIS.

>> CERTAINLY WE CAN TRY TO GET -- I'LL REQUEST THE ANALYSIS FROM TRIPP AND TRY TO GET THOSE FROM MR. HAMSTRA.

>> AND THERE ARE SEVERAL SECTIONS CITED AS NOT PART OF TE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT, SECTION 10.2, PERTAINING TO BLANKET EASEMENTS AND STORM WATER PROTECTION CULVERTS, SECTION LEARN -- SECTION 11, THOSE WERE ALL CALLED INTO QUESTION IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN WE REVIEW THOSE AND MAKE IT

AS PART OF THE REPORT TO US? >> YES.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE DISCUSSING WITH MR. HAMSTRA AND WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS WEEK IS THE SCOPE, WHAT WAS CONTRACTED OUT AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, YES TO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> THE PRESIDENT OF MARSH LANDING TOLD US IT IS A 25-YEAR STORM AND NOT THE HURRICANE EVENT.

WAS THAT PART OF MR. HAMSTRA'S REPORT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING BACK WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET AND THAT'S THE STORM WATER SYSTEM.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ASK HIM TO CLARIFY IN HIS REPORT WHICH PORTIONS ARE ABOUT FLOODING AND WHICH ARE ABOUT

STORM WATER. >> WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE PRESIDENT OF MARSH LANDING THAT NONE OF THE PRESCRIBED REPAIRS WILL PREVENT THE FLOODING FROM A 6-FOOT STORAGE SURGE.

IS THAT TRUE? >> THAT IS AN ENGINEERING QUESTION AND WE ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THAT.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE ANSWERS WHEN IT IS TIME TO CONSIDER TAKING WHATEVER ACTION WE ARE ASKED TO TAKE.

I JUST THINK THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN COMING HERE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE BEEN RAISING GOOD POINTS I AM ASKING YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS.

I THINK THEY MADE SOME GOOD POINTS AND WE CAN'T MAKE A GOOD DECISION WITHOUT HEARING THE ANSWERS TO THESE DIFFICULT

QUESTIONS. >> I MEAN, I DID NOT READ IT IN DETAIL, BUT I DID LOOK AT IT BRIEFLY FOR FACTS AND THERE WERE QUITE A FEWTONS -- A FEW OPINIONS AND I EVEN SAW CLIMATE CHANGE AND I AM NOT SURE IF THAT IS LEGITIMATE, BUT EITHER WAY I HOPE IT IS A FACTUAL REPORT SO WE CAN LOOK AT BOTH SIDES AND COME UP TO WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO DO.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> CAN I HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION? >> 10 SECONDS.

PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE OR FOR THE RECORD WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IT. WE ARE TRYING TO REMOVE THE EMOTION AND THE PASSION FROM THIS AND ALL WE ARE ASKING IS FOR AT LEAST FOUR WEEKS TO GIVE YOU A PRODUCT THAT HAS OBJECTIVE ENGINEERING SUPPORT TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PRODUCT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE NEVER GOING TO FIND WHAT IS RIGHT FOR MARSH LANDING, BUT WE MUST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT IT IN A PROFESSIONAL SENSE AND THAT WILL TAKE AT LEAST FOUR WEEKS. THE APRIL 18TH MEETING IS SIMPLY OF NO USE AT ALL. CONSIDERING 9 MONTHS TO DEVELOP THIS AND IT IS LESS THAN TWO WEEKS TO REBUT IT APPROPRIATELY.

>> IS THERE ANY ISSUE FROM THE BOARD HEARING THE HAMSTRA REPORT MAYBE IN THE FIRST MEETING OF MAY AS OPPOSED TO THE APRIL 18TH MEETING? IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MARSH LANDING TIME TO COMPILE WHATEVER

NEEDED INFORMATION IS NECESSARY. >> FOR THE RECORD I THINK IT IS

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MAY 16TH. >> THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY IS

MAY SECOND. >> WELL HE HE WAS ASKING FOR

FOUR WEEKS. >> TODAY IS APRIL 4TH.

THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE. >> JUST TO RECALL, WITH PUBLISHING DEADLINES IF WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU A WRITTEN DOCUMENT THAT ALSO GETS PUBLISHED FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN 8, 9-DAY LEAD TIME ON THAT.

BASED ON THAT ADDITIONAL FACTOR, I DON'T KNOW, JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU WANT IT TO COME FORWARD ON MAY SECOND OR IF YOU THINK THE 16TH IS BETTER. WE WILL WORK WITH WHATEVER

TIMELINE. >> DOES YOUR OFFICE NEED UNTIL

MAY 16TH? >> I THINK THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE

OF CAUTION TO MAKE SURE. >> AN ISSUE WITH MAY 16TH?

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE THE TIME AND DO IT RIGHT.

>> THEY HAVE SAID ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION TO ME THAT HIS GOAL IS TO MAKE THIS RIGHT AND NOT QUICK.

AND WE NEED TO BE PRESENTED WITH A WELL THOUGHT OUT REPORT AND

TIME TO DIGEST IT. >> MR. ULLMAN? I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SCHEDULE WITH RELEVANT STAFF OR THE COMMISSIONERS. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO OVER ANY

NEW INFORMATION. >>

>> WHAT IS YOUR PREFRPS, COMMISSIONER -- PREFERENCE,

COMMISSIONER? >> SURE, THANK YOU.

SET THE CLOCK FOR TWO MINUTES. >> I DEBATED BRINGING THIS UP WHEN I FIRST CAME UP HERE TO SPEAK, BUT I THINK IT IS RELEVANT GIVEN THE FACT YOU ARE CONCERNED THAT YOU WANT TO GET IT RIGHT AND LEARN MORE INFORMATION.

MARSH HRAPBTD -- LANDING HIRED US.

BECAUSE OF OUR CREATIVITY AND FINDING A WAY TO PROVIDE A UNIQUE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS AT HAPPENED, MR. HENSLEY TURNED ME INTO THE BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.

NOT SOMETHING I WANTED IN MY CAREER AND IT WAS NOT A FUN EXPERIENCE. HIS SMALL EMAIL TO THE FLORIDA BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS PROMPTED THAT 1200-PAGE RESUBMIT TALL I GAVE TO THE BOARD. THEIR SPECIAL TEAM OF STATE INVESTIGATORS, THEIR CHIEF PROSECUTING ATTORNEY AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT OF A VERY LARGE, WELL-RESPECTED CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM IN TAMPA REVIEWED EVERYTHING AND THEY PRODUCED A 72-PAGE EXONERATION OF EVERY COMPLAINT THAT MR. HENSLEY FILED AGAINST ME. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO READ TO YOU IN THIS CONCLUSION.

THE INFORMATION I REVIEWED SHOWED A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE ENGINEER TO ADDRESS COMPLIANCE ISSUES AND IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE CONDITIONS. IT WAS NECESSARY IN REPERMITTING AN OLDER DRAINAGE SYSTEM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN PLACE AND IS NOT A ROUTINE AND STRAIGHT FORWARD MANNER.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE ENGINEER EVALUATED WHAT HE AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT STAFF TOGETHER BELIEVED WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

HENSLEY SAYS EVERY ASPECT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP TO CURRENT REQUIREMENTS. BUT DUE TO THE AGE OF THE SYSTEM AND THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS AROUND -- OR AROUND THE STORM WATER SYSTEM'S KP*EURS -- EXISTING AND IN PLACE THIS IS NOT PHYSICALLY OR FINANCIALLY PRACTICAL.

SO NOT ONLY HAVE WE HAD MR. HAMSTRA'S REVIEW REPORT, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO ENGINEER IT, BUT I HAVE HAD AN ENTIRE TEAM OF SPECIAL INVESTIGATORS THROUGH THE FLORIDA BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS AND THE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERS OUTSIDE OF OUR REGIONAL AREA THAT HAVE ALL REVIEWED THE WORK WE HAVE DONE

[Commissioners’ Reports]

>> ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO COMMISSIONER REPORTS. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT TO SPEAK FROM MARSH LANDING AND EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK DURING NON-AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER ALAIMO, YOUR REPORT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT.

I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO CAME OUT FROM MARSH LANDING TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

I KNOW IT IS A MAJOR ISSUE AND A DIRE SITUATION.

I KNOW I PROMISED TO VISIT WITH YOU AFTER THE REPORT CAME OUT, BUT I'LL GET WITH STAFF AND GET THAT SCHEDULED BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS. I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT OTHER THAN ON A LIGHTER NOTE, I JUST WANTED TO WISH OUR CHAIRMAN , OUR LEADER A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

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I WANT TO WISH YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER DEAN? >> IN ADDITION TO THE CHAIRMAN'S BIRTHDAY, IT IS HOLY WEEK AND I WANT TO TAKE JUST A BRIEF MOMENT AND FOR THOSE OF US TO EMBRACE AND CHERISH THE NEW TESTAMENT IN PARTICULAR. THIS IS THE WEEK THAT WE CELEBRATE THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST, AND I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT WEEK AND ONE THAT WE SHOULD ALL IN OUR OWN WAY EMBRACE AND THINK ABOUT AND THANK THE LORD FOR THE GIFTS THAT HE HAS GIVEN AND THE MAJOR GIFT IN JOHN 3:16 THAT HE IS NOT FORCING ANYTHING ON US.

HE IS GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW HIS LEAD.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN.

>> I AM REALLY EXCITED. I AM BRINGING BACK MY LITTER.

I TALKED TO YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT THE LITTER PROGRAM IN THE BEGINNING. YOU KNOW, HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE BEACH GIST A WEEK AGO. ACTUALLY SHERIFF HARDWICK HELPED US GREATLY WITH TRYING TO CLAMP DOWN ON THE KIDS.

YOU KNOW, THEY ARE PARTYING AND THEY ARE SENIORS.

WHAT THEY WILL DO THOUGH IS AFTER THEY HAVE THE PARTY ON THE BEACH, THEY WILL EITHER LEAVE IT LIKE THAT AND THEN SOME OF OUR OWN VOLUNTEERS OR PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE BEACH WILL CLEAN IT UP, OR THEY WILL BURY IT IN THE SAND BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE EVIDENCE WHICH IS REALLY BAD BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE STAND ON THE CANS AND THE TURTLES, IF THEY HIT A CAN THEY WILL GO BACK OUT TO THE SEA AND RELEASE THE TURTLES IN THE OCEAN. THAT BEING SAID, SHERIFF HARDWIK SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW, I WISH THE KIDS WOULD BE MORE RESPONSIVE OR SEE WHAT KIND OF A COUNTY WE LIVE IN.

I STARTED TO THINK THE BEST PLACE TO GO WOULD BE TO GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. I WENT TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT ACADEMY OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND MARKETING AND THE ACADEMY OF FUTURE TEACHERS AND I WENT TO THEM AND SAID WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO A SOERBLG MEDIA -- SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN, DOESN'T COST ANYTHING, FOR LITTER? THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTY. ONE, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS OR PEOPLE WITH -- WORKERS WITH PICKUP TRUCKS AREN'T TIEING THEIR THINGS DOWN. YOU ARE FINDING, YOU KNOW, THEIR EQUIPMENT EVEN ON THE ROAD. THEY ARE GONNA DO A TIE DOWN INTERNET, 15-SECOND VIDEO AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO ANOTHER KIND OF VIDEO FOR CLEANING UP OUR AREA.

AND THEN THIRD -- THIRDLY, THE BEACH.

I AM REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING UP WITH SOME BRAINSTORMING IDEAS. THEY MADE IT A CONTEST BETWEEN THEIR GROUPS AND THE SCHOOL, AND THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PRESENT IT. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT ELSE THEY ARE DOING. THE TEACHER ACADEMY IS TAKING LESSON PLANS AND THEY WILL GO TO PRE-K, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND DO A CAMPAIGN WITH THOSE KIDS.

AS THEY COME THROUGH OUR PROGRAM THEY WILL START HAVING AN AWARENESS OF LITTER. WHERE DO WE GET -- WE GET OUR PEERS INVOLVED AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PARENTS ARE GOING WHAT ARE YOU DOING? AND THEN THE PARENTS ARE NOTICING THE LITTER AROUND OUR COUNTY AND MAYBE THEY ARE NOT GONNA THROW SOMETHING OUT THE WINDOW.

I REMEMBER AS A LITTLE KID WHEN MY MOM THREW A PIECE OF GUM OUT THE WINDOW WE WOULD SAY, WE HAVE LITTER CAMPAIGNS SO LONG AGO.

ANYWAY THE NEXT -- I'M HOPING YOU WOULD MIND IN A CONSENSUS FORM TO ALLOW THE KIDS AS EITHER AN AGENDA ITEM TO PRESENT AND THIS IS OF COURSE A PROFESSIONAL , TECHNICAL SCHOOL WHICH I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE VISITED, OR I CAN DO IT DURING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS APRIL 18TH AND MAY SECOND AND THEN SCHOOL IS OUT AFTER THAT.

SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT ON APRIL 18TH IF POSSIBLE.

THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. AND SECOND, THEY ARE COMING UP WITH A PROGRAM BETWEEN ALL OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS TO DIVIDE THE BEACH UP AND FOR YEARS TO COME ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTEST OF KEEPING THREE TO FOUR MILES OF BEACH PER HIGH SCHOOL CLEAN.

AND GETTING THEIR SERVICE HOURS AND OTHER IDEAS WITH THAT.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU THOUGHT.

>> I WOULD SAY THIS, I DID SOMETHING WITH AN ORGANIZATION BACK IN 2019 WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO OUT AND CLEAN UP THE BEACH. WE HAD ABOUT 30 OF US.

WE WERE GOING TO REALLY GO OUT THERE.

WE HOPED TO GET A HAUL LIKE THE PICTURE I AM SEEING.

AND THERE WERE TWO ROTC GROUPS OUT THERE.

THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER JUST ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OUT THERE CLEANING UP THE BEACH. WE DIDN'T GET MORE THAN A

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I KNOW KIDS ARE PLANNING FOR BRIGHT FUTURE SCHOLARSHIPS AND THEY NEED COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS.

I TRIED TO GET ALONG WITH ANOTHER -- AS PART OF THE ORGANIZATION I TRIED TO GET WITH ANOTHER BEACH CLEAN UP GROUP AND THEY SAID WE ARE BOOKED OUT FOR SIX MONTHS.

IF YOU WANT TO CLEAN PONTE VIDRE BEACH YOU HAVE TO COME BACK.

I THINK THERE ARE GROUPS ENGAGED IN THE BEACH CLEAN UP.

IS THIS WORKING IN COOPERATION WITH THEM?

>> THE BEACH IS A SEPARATE -- I SHOULD HAVE NOT PUT IT INTO THE SOCIAL MEDIA PROGRAM. THE SOCIAL MEDIA PROGRAM IS TO SHOW THE KIDS ABOUT LITTERING, PERIOD.

THAT'S DURING THE -- IN THE COUNTY AND ON THE SIDES OF THE ROADS. THEY WOULD BE RUNNING VINIETTES ON INSTA -- ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK.

WE APPROVE THE ADS AND THEY WOULD COME AND GIVE US A PROFESSIONAL CAMPAIGN PRESENTATION AS IF THEY ARE IN THE REAL WORLD. THIS IS NOT JUST THE BEACH.

THIS IS A FULL COMMUNITY EFFORT TO MAKE AN AWARENESS OF LITTER, ESPECIALLY TO CONSTRUCTION WORKERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE TIE DOWN, 15-SECOND COMMERCIAL. MAYBE THEY SHOW HOW TO TIE DOWN SOMETHING IN THE CAR. BUT IT IS TAKING THESE KIDS TO HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR LITTER IN THE FUTURE AND NOT JUST THE BEACH. THE BEACH CLEAN UPS ARE GREAT EXCEPT THAT 300 PEOPLE GO OUT TO ONE AREA OF THE BEACH AND FIVE PEOPLE GET TWO THINGS. THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

THE POINT IS TO MAKE AWARENESS FOR OUR CHILDREN COMING UP IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND KINDERGARTEN AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BEING AWARE OF OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTY AND NOW IT IS TO THE HELPFUL WHEN THE CHICK-FIL-A BAG GOES FLYING OUT THE WINDOW OR THEIR DRINK CUPS GO OUT THE WINDOW, AND OH THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT. WHATEVER.

WHATEVER HAPPENS. THEY EAT LUNCH AT A PARK AND THEY LEAVE THEIR GARBAGE THERE. IT HAPPENS, AND I THINK MORE AWARENESS TO THE PARENTS AND THE CHILDREN AND THEN GIVING IT TO THE TEENS. YOU KNOW, MAKE THEM MORE IN TOUCH WITH OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. I ACTUALLY DID TALK TO SHERIFF -- THE SHERIFF TOO ABOUT IT AND HE IS REALLY EXCITED

ABOUT IT. >> WILL THE KIDS BE CREATING

SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT? >> YES.

>> THEY ARE GREAT AT THAT. >> THEY KNOW A LOT MORE THAN I DO ABOUT IT. BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO PRESENT. I CAN DO THAT IN COMMISSIONER COMMENT AND HAVE THEM PRESENT. IT WOULD BE WHATEVER TIME ALLOTTED, AND IT JUST GIVES THEM A TIME TO PUT ON THEIR SUIT AND TO PRESENT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO AND THEN YOU CAN COMMENT AND DECIDE IF THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL FOR OUR COUNTY.

>> SURE. >> IT DOESN'T COST US.

>> AND IT IS FREE SO IT IS THE RIGHT PRICE.

WE LIKE THAT. >> THANK YOU.

SO THE NEXT APRIL 18TH. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> I'LL KEEP IT SHORT.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR THEIR CONSENSUS IN DOING THE WEST AUGUSTINE SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM.

AS OF MARCH 31ST WE HAVE 88 KIDS REGISTERED AND I EXPECT IT TO BE COMPLETELY FULL HERE SHORTLY.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND HAPPY EASTER. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. I HAVE A FEW THINGS AND FORGIVE ME. I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF HERE EARLY AND I THINK I WILL, BUT HAVE I A COUPLE OF THINGS -- BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

TO PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER DEAN'S COMMENTS, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WEEK IN THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.

WE ARE CELEBRATING THE DEATH, BEAR -- BURIAL AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST. WE TRY TO KEEP THAT TOP OF MIND EVERY WEEK, BUT THIS IS A SPECIAL WEEK FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE CHRISTIANS. THE SECOND THING IS THERE HAVE BEEN AGGRESSIVE ACTS TAKEN BY CHINA OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. I THINK IN RESPONSE TO THAT OUR STATE LEGISLATURE HAS VERY WISELY BOTH IN THE SENATE AND IN THE HOUSE PUT FORWARD BILLS TO COMBAT THE PURCHASE OF LAND BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND THE POLITICAL PARTIES AFFILIATED WITH THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT. I THINK THESE BILLS ARE GONNA PASS. IT MAKES COMMON SENSE GIVEN THE RECENT ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.

IT IS IN FLORIDIANS' BEST INTEREST FOR THESE BILLS TO PASS. IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS FOR THESE BILLS TO PASS.

IT IS SB264 AND HB1355. WE AGREED TO SEND THE LETTER OF SUPPORT TO PRESIDENT PSADOMO AND SPEAKER RENNER IN A PRIOR BILL.

IT WOULD MAKE GOOD SENSE AND BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FOLKS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THESE TWO COMPANION BILLS. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE THOUGHTS OF THE BOARD. IF THERE ARE ANY CON FLICKSES, E

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TO HEAR THAT. >> I SUPPORT THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO IS THAT -- COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? OKAY.

IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH IN TERMS OF DIRECTION.

CAN WE DRAFT A LETTER IN SUPPORT FOR SB264 AND H-RBG -- HB --

[INAUDIBLE]. >> YES, WE WILL GET IT DRAFTED.

>> THAT'S ONE. AND TWO THIS WILL BE PRETTY BRIEF. TWICE ON THE SAME DAY I WAS CONFRONTED BY DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS BASICALLY TELLING PRETTY DECENT-SIZED AUDIENCE THAT'S THE COUNTY IS SITTING ON $130 MILLION OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDS AND WE ARE JUST NOT USING THE FUNDS AND NOT SPENDING MONEY ON THE PROJECT.

I ASKED OUR OWN DIRECTOR TO DRAFT A LETTER AND WE CAN SEND IT OUT TO ALL OF US TO KIND OF GO OVER WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING. WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP AND ADDRESSING THAT? I HEARD IT TWICE ON THE SAME DAY. THESE FOLKS ARE TALKING TO RESIDENTS WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AND HOW MONEY IS APPROPRIATE -- APPROPRIATED.

IF YOU COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

JESSE DUNN, DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET.

YES, I SENT OUT A WHITE PAPER DATED MARCH 28TH, AND THERE HAS BEEN A RECENT RECURRING DISCUSSION ON IMPACT FEES.

IN FACT, WE MET WITH A BUILDER'S ASSOCIATION BACK IN SEPTEMBER ON THIS. CHAIRMAN WHITEHURST, YOU WERE VICE CHAIR AND WE HAD MR. CONRAD IN THERE AND MR. CALDWELL AND MR. SCHROEDER AND MYSELF. WE HAD A SIZABLE DISCUSSION ON HOW WE COLLECT AND UTILIZE IMPACT FEES AND MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN WE SEE BALANCES IN THESE FUNDS IN OUR ACCOUNTING OF OUR FUNDS, THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS HOW THIS WORKS. AND THAT'S TO THE COMMENT THAT WE ARE NOT SITTING ON THOSE DOLLARS.

IN THAT WHITE PAPER AND I THINK IT WAS A SIMILAR DISCUSSION IN SEPTEMBER, IT IS TRUE. WE HAVE ABOUT $135 MILLION IN OUR COLLECTIVE IMPACT FEES. AND NOW THERE IS 11 DIFFERENT IMPACT FEES CATEGORIES. THERE IS PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND THERE IS FIRE AND THERE IS SHERIFF.

SO 135 MILLION ACROSS 11 COLLECTIVELY.

OF THOSE THERE ARE ABOUT $40 MILLION THAT ARE -- THAT REMAIN IN RESERVES AT THIS POINT.

SO THE OTHER -- THE DIFFERENCE THERE OF ABOUT $95 MILLION IS CERTAINLY NOT BEING SAT UPON, I SUPPOSE WOULD BE THE LANGUAGE.

THOSE ARE BEING APPROPRIATED TOWARD PROJECTS.

AND PART OF GOVERNMENT'S ACCOUNTING, AND I WILL EVEN GET INTO TRANSPARENCY WHEN WE TALK OF GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY.

REALLY THE LEAD ON TRANSPARENCY IS PRO -- PROCUREMENT.

THE IDEA THAT PUBLIC DOLLARS ARE APPROPRIATE TOWARD PROJECTS.

PEOPLE GET THE CRITICISM OF GOVERNMENT.

THE BACK ROOM DECISIONS. OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS THE TRANSPARENCY, THE LEADING TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT AND MAKING SURE IT IS NOT GIVEN TO SOMEBODY'S BROTHER.

IT TAKES TIME. WE TALK ABOUT CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE, MANY TYPES OF PROCUREMENT, AND WHEN YOU GET INTO CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE. AND IT CAN TAKE -- IT IS JUST THE CONCEPT OF ANY GIVEN TUESDAY A FUNDING FOR A PROJECT AND THE CONSTRUCTION BID PROCESS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLACKOUT PERIODS WHERE WE ASKED THE COMMISSION NOT TO TALK TO CERTAIN RESPONDENTS ON PROCUREMENTS.

IT CAN TAKE 25 MONTHS. YOU ARE SITTING ON DOLLARS AND PART IS THE PROCESS ITSELF. OF THAT $90 MILLION THAT IS IN THERE COLLECTIVELY RIGHT NOW, IT IS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS THAT

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THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE -- AND WE WILL ADD COMPLICATIONS TO THAT.

WE ARE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND LAND ACQUISITION.

THE SCOPE HAS CHANGED AND THE PUBLIC GETS INVOLVED.

THEY WANT A FOUR-LANE WITH ANOTHER TURN LANE.

IT IS ABOUT AN AVERAGE TIME. IT CAN BE USED TO REDUCE THE TIME FRAME, BUT THE TIME FRAME IS TO PROCURE CAN EXPAND BEYOND 25 MONTHS. FROM THAT TIME FRAME, THAT'S JUST TO GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE CAN BE ANOTHER -- YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PROJECT COULD BE ANOTHER TWO YEARS BEYOND THAT.

A LOT GOING ON IN THAT. I THOUGHT WE BETTER FORMALIZE THAT. OUR RESERVES ARE REALLY PURPOSEFULLY -- THEY ARE PURPOSEFULLY PUT INTO RESERVES.

YOU DON'T JUST TAKE THE DOLLARS AND ALLOCATE THEM.

ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS HAS BEEN FIRE RESCUE IMPACT FEES. THEY ARE ACCUMULATED AND I THOUGHT THE THREE FORMER CHIEFS AND UP TO THE CURRENT INTERIM CHIEF HAS BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE WE ACCUMULATE THEM AND WE USE THEM TO CONSTRUCT THE LAST FOUR AND FIVE FIRE STAEUGSZ.

AND NOW WE HAVE IMPACT FEES THAT BUILD THE STATION AS WELL AS THE APPARATUS. IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE DOLLARS AND SPEND THEM EACH YEAR KIND OF ON AN AD-HOC WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAVE UP FOR THEM. THERE ARE DELIBERATE REASONS WHY WE HAVE RESERVES IN PLACE. WE MAY BE GOING THROUGH A PROJECT THIS YEAR AND I PROVIDED SOME IN THE PAPER, SOME EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS WHERE WE MAY BE DOING PROJECTS THIS YEAR.

WE WILL HOLD ON TO APPROPRIATIONS UNTIL THE DESIGN PROJECT COMES BACK. IT IS A PURPOSEFUL AND DELIBERATE PROCESS THERE. WHEN YOU CAPTURE A SINGLE NUMBER OF $135 MILLION IT OPENS UP QUESTIONS.

AND CERTAINLY WE CAN SAY WHY PEOPLE SAY APPEARS TO BE SITTING ON DOLLARS. I ASSURE YOU -- WE CAN TELL YOU HOW BY NEXT YEAR HOW MOST OF THOSE APPROPRIATIONS WILL BE

DIRECTED. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN?

>> MOST OF YOU KNOW I SPENT 30 YEARS IN STATE GOVERNMENT AND 15 YEARS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN BUSINESS AND NOW SERVE ON A LOCAL COMMISSION. I HAVE SEEN THIS FROM THREE DIFFERENT VANTAGE POINTS. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE USED TO SAY, I WILL CORN BREAD THIS A LITTLE BIT.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU ARE A STATE, REGIONAL OR LOCAL ENTITY PROVIDING GOOD SERVICES AND PROJECTS TO THE PUBLIC, YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE WE REFER TO AS A SINKING FUND FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. THERE IS NO ONE YEAR WHERE WE WILL ACCUMULATE THE REVENUE OF $300 MILLION AND SAY, OKAY, NOW WE CAN BUILD. WE HAVE TO SET ASIDE EACH YEAR AND THE TERM IN GOVERNMENT IS THOSE FUNDS BECOME ENCUMBERED AND THEY CARRY OVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS MONEY JUST SITTING THERE THAT WE CAN USE. BECAUSE WE -- WE HAVE PLANS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TRANSPORTATION FUND COMMITTED OVER A FUTURE TIME. I WILL TELL UH SCARY NUMBER.

DO YOU WANT TO HEAR A SCARY NUMBER? A YEAR AGO THIS MONTH YOU PRESENTED AN INFRASTRUCTURE NEED FOR THIS COUNTY ROADS IN PARTICULAR.

I BELIEVE IT WAS 225 MILLION. THAT'S A SCARY NUMBER.

I AM NOT LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE INCOME BETTERED FOR FUTURE ROAD PROJECTS. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FOCUS ON

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ANYWAY. I'LL SHUT UP.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN, THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS.

COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT IS THE MAIN THING PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON?

WHAT DO YOU HEAR? >> IMPACT FEES ARE SPECIFIC TO CAPACITY PROJECTS. WHEN WE ARE THINKING OF ROAD PROJECTS WE ARE THINKING OF A TWO-LANE COUNTRY ROAD AND FOUR-LANING IT. I THINK IT IS MORE THE PERCEPTION THAT WE ARE SITTING ON THEM.

WE ALWAYS ENSURE THAT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE FOR

CAPACITY-RELATED ITEMS. >> AND I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW-UP WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID.

IF WE DON'T KEEP APPROVING BUILDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEN WE CAN GET UP ON THOSE ROADS AT A BETTER TIME.

>> WE DENY AS MANY PROJECTS AS WE APPROVED.

>> GOING FORWARD. >> AND THEN IN THE LAST TWO YEARS I ASKED THE STAFF FOR THAT INFORMATION --

>> ESPECIALLY 16. >> WELL, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH AND COMMISSIONER DEAN. JESSE, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I JUST THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THIS BOARD THAT -- THAT THIS BOARD HAS THE FACTS.

IT IS TO THE EVERY DEVELOPER, BUT WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF DEVELOPER THAT'S ARE GOING OUT THERE.

IF THE QUESTION COMES BACK FROM RESIDENTS WHO MAY HAVE HEARD A PRESENTATION WHERE DEVELOPERS ARE TELLING PEOPLE WE ARE JUST SITTING ON $130 MILLION, THAT WOULD UPSET ME.

IT IS A RELIEF TO KNOW THAT WE ARE SPENDING $95 MILLION OF

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CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. >> YES, SIR.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT ON THAT.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR COMMISSIONER REPORTS. MR. CONRAD.

>> THANK YOU. ONE THING, QUICKLY.

MANY OF YOU, ACTUALLY EACH OF YOU ASKED OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS THE STATUS OF CULTURAL RESOURCES.

I JUST WANT TO PUT SOME CLOSURE ON THAT FOR YOU.

YOU WERE PROVIDED AN EMAIL. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO. YOU CAN RESPOND TO CONSTITUENTS, BUT PUBLICLY TO PUT CLOSURE ON THAT.

GROWTH MANAGEMENT IDENTIFIED THAT DURING THE PROCESS OF THE SEPARATION FROM THE LAST EMPLOYEE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS WERE GOING UP THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO AS YOU EACH ARE AWARE, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ESSENTIALLY MANAGED STAFF NEEDS AND RESOURCES AND THEY MADE A DECISION AND RECOMMENDED IT TO ADMINISTRATION THAT WE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF BOTH STAFFING WE HAD CULTURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTIONS.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PUT A FOCUS ON CULTURAL RESOURCES AND ALSO PUT THOSE POSITIONS TOGETHER.

ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNICIAN AND DOING THE JOB DUTIES OF CULTURAL RESOURCES. IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THAT POSITION WAS ONLY AT 50% CAPACITY.

AND THAT'S WHY THE REASON TO PUT THOSE POSITIONS TOGETHER.

CULTURAL RESOURCES AND THE ENVIRONMENT ARE TAKEN UNDER.

ONE POSITION YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT'S A SMALLER DEPARTMENT.

AND SO OFTENTIMES IN THE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS YOU ARE ALSO ASKED TO DO MULTI-DIMENSIONAL THINGS. MS. BREWER AND MR. ROBERSON BOTH IDENTIFIED THAT WE CAN DO BOTH OF THESE WITH ONE POSITION.

CULTURAL RESOURCES HAS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFYING CULTURAL LANDMARKS AND CULTURAL OBJECTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, BUT IT IS MAKING SURE WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT. I WANTED TO PUT CLOSURE ON THAT FOR YOU PUBLICLY. ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN REACH OUT TO MYSELF OR MS. ANDREWS AND MSN MOVE ON FROM THIS CONVERSATION.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> ONE LAST QUESTION, WHO IS IN

THE POSITION NOW? >> DO YOU KNOW?

>> MIKE ROBERSON, GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A NEW HIRE AND SHE WAS WITH US IN GROWTH MANAGEMENT ALREADY AND SHE IS HAYLEY

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