Feb 21, 2023 Board of County Commissioners

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COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. CLERK OF THE COURT

PLEASE CALL BULL. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

VICE CHAIR ARNOLD. COMMISSIONER HENRY DEAN.

COMMISSIONER ROY ALAIMO. COMMISSIONER KRISTA JOSEPH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE ARE ALL PRESENT. NOW WE WILL HEAR INDICATION FROM PASTOR MATT MCCLARY . WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNIT AS ALWAYS, IT'S A PRIVILEGE AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT OUR CHURCH IS PRAYING FOR THE COMMISSION. SO THANK YOU. HOW HE HAS BROUGHT THE SOLUTIONS ON THE EARTH, HE MAKE -- HE BREAKS THE BOW AND SHATTERS THE SPEAR, BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD. I WIL BE EXALTED IN THE EARTH. THE LORD IS WITH US , THE GOD OF JACOB IS OUR FORTRESS. LET'S PRAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING AND WE JUST PRAY FOR EVERY GOOD AND THAT COMES FROM HAVING. FOR THESE ENDEAVORS, EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE WITH US, YOU WOULD GIVE U THE WISDOM AND COVER OUR LEADERS WITH YOUR GRACE AND MERCY. AND TODAY WILL BE A GOOD

J -- DAY. IN JESUS NAME. >> TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, ANGELA MCKENZIE, UNITED STATES COAST GUARD.

>> GOOD MORNING. PLEASE JOIN M IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND T THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD , INDIVISIBLE , WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU. OKAY. WE WILL HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING

[Proclamation Recognizing the 125th Anniversary of the Maria Jefferson Chapter of the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution]

>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S A TREAT FOR ME TO DO THIS PROCLAMATION THIS MORNING. I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT MY GREAT-GRANDMOTHER WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF HER CHAPTER SO GLENN, BETH , ANY ADDITIONA MEMBERS OF THE CHAPTER TO THE FRONT. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND READING THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD .

>> WHEREAS ON APRIL 2ND, 1896 THE GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF THOMAS JEFFERSON, MARIA JEFFERSON , INVITED SOME FRIENDS TO HER HOME IN SAINT AUGUSTINE FOR THE PURPOSE OF FORMING A CHAPTER OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. AND WHEREAS, HER FAILING HEALTH TOOK HER AWAY FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SHE DIED ON SEPTEMBER 2ND , 1896, WITH THE DREAM OF HER CHAPTER UNREALIZED. AND WHEREAS , AFTER A TEMPORARY PAUSE IN THE PROCESS, MISS ANNA WOODRUFF , WHO HAD BEEN A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY, WAS CONFIRMED AS ORGANIZING REGION ON FEBRUARY 3RD, 1898. AND THE CHARTER WAS GRANTED ON MARCH 26TH , 1898. WITH THE MARIA JEFFERSON CHAPTER BECOMING THE SECOND CHAPTER IN FLORIDA. AN WHEREAS, THE MEMBERS OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION ARE DESCENDENTS OF PATRIOTS WHO HELPED CREATE OUR NATION DURING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION WITH THE GOALS OF THIS WORK RESERVATION, EDUCATION AND PATRIOTISM. AND WHEREAS, IN ADDITION TO NUMEROU EVENTS HELD ANNUALLY, THIS YEA THE MARIA JEFFERSON CHAPTER CONTRIBUTED ALMOST 4000 HOURS

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>> IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PROCLAMATION.

>> WE ARE HERE TO SERVE, AND W DO A LOT FOR OUR VETERANS. WE PROMOTE EDUCATION, WE GIVE SCHOLARSHIPS TO THE LOCAL SCHOOLS. AND WE WILL CONTINUE T SERVE AFTER 125 YEARS. WE MAD IT. AND SATURDAY IS OUR BIG CELEBRATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[Public Safety Update]

ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION? >> I MAKE THE MOTION.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. WE AR GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE. WELCOME, DIRECTOR.

>> GOOD MORNING , COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE TODAY. A ALWAYS, WE CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH , EVERYONE ON THE BOARD FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THE TRAFFIC IN OUR COUNTY RIGHT NOW THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE ARE WORKING ON OUR BUDGET TO TRY AN MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE STUFF IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THE COUNTY. AND OF COURSE, OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE THE BEST PAY AND BENEFITS WE CAN POSSIBLY OFFER. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT. AS WE COMPETE WITH OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA , WE HAVE TO CONTINUE T LEAD THE WAY TO ATTRACT THE BES AND BRIGHTEST. BECAUSE IT'S A BIG DEAL THAT WE PUT IN THEIR HANDS AND WE WANT OUR CITIZENS TO BE PROUD OF WHERE THEY LIVE AND FEEL SAFE. AND PROVIDING THAT FIRST-CLASS SERVICE IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND I JUST WAN TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY STAFF. THEY ARE ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF US. AND I WANT T GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN FOR WHAT THEY DO EVER SINGLE DAY. AND OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN FIRE AND RESCUE.

I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU ALL SO

MUCH. >> GOOD MORNING , FIRE AND RESCUE CHIEF. A NEW PROGRAM , IT'S A SOFTWARE THAT WE'VE INSTALLED ON OUR APPARATUS AN YOU CAN GET ON YOUR PHONE AS WELL, AS WE ARE RESPONDING TO EMERGENCY CALLS, WE CAN ALL THI UP AND IT GIVES US ALL THIS INFORMATION INSTANTLY. IT PULL INFORMATION FROM PROPERTY APPRAISERS , COMBINES THAT WITH THE INFORMATION WE PUT WHEN W GO IN PERSON TO DO A PRE-PLAN SO IT'S USER-FRIENDLY, STREAMLINED, YOU CAN HIT, IT SHOWS YOU THE SIZE, THE SPRINKLERS , IT GIVES YOU ALL THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS INSTANTLY. IF YOU G

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IT'S JUST GOING TO GET BETTER WITH TIME.

>> QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? >> HAVE A GOOD DAY.

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE PAST THE CLERK OF COURT REPORT BECAUSE HE IS THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> NONE. >> NONE.

>> NONE. >> AND I HAVE NONE. WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE

CONSENT AGENDA. WELCOME. >> WELCOME. I AM WITH BTI PARTNERS , YOU IMPROVED -- APPROVED THE GREENBRIER AND TRAFFIC PROP SHARE AGREEMENT. THAT WAS IN NOVEMBER. ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE ARE GOING TO ASSIGN TO THE ELEMENT THAT WILL DEVELO THAT PROPERTY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR HAVING CONFIDENCE IN US TO APPROVE THA PROJECT. WE ARE NOW READY TO MAKE OUR FIRST PAYMENT .

EARMARKED FOR CONSTRUCTION , AND THAT MONEY WAS PUT IN ESCROW. WITH THIS ASSIGNMENT APPROVAL, WE ARE READY TO RELEASE THOSE FUNDS TO THE COUNTY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR HAVING CONFIDENCE IN US THAT WE WOULD

FULFILL THAT OBLIGATION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE FOR COMMENTS ON THE CONSEN AGENDA? WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> BEFORE I LOOK FOR MOTION, I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER 10. AN AWARD TO BUILD THE PARKWAY. WOULD YOU MIND GET GIVING SOME OF TH DETAILS? THAT WAS A BIG PROJECT FOR MY DISTRICT AND THE ENTIRE NORTHWEST SECTOR. WE DID TAKE CHANCE WHEN WE APPROVE THAT ITEM IN NOVEMBER. IT LOOKS LIK THE DEVELOPERS ARE FOLLOWING

THROUGH ON THE PROMISES WE MADE >> GOOD MORNING. 'S ITEM NUMBER 10 IS THE AWAD FOR $14.9 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF WIDENING FROM 2 TO 4 LIENS -- LANES. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. THE PLANNING WAS DONE AHEAD O TIME, THE FUNDS ARE NOT AVAILABLE AND THE CONSTRUCTION IF APPROVED TODAY, WE WILL START IMMEDIATELY WITH EXECUTING ALL THE CONTRACTS , AND WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO TAKE 18 MONTHS. MAINTENANCE O TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE LEG, BUT WE EXPECT THAT TO STAR WITHIN 60 DAYS.

>> START WITHIN 16 DAYS AND TAKE 18 MONTHS.

>> YES SIR. EVERYTHING SET UP.

>> THANK YOU , MR. CALDWELL. >> WE ALSO HAVE 210 UNDER

CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA. >> THAT'S WONDERFUL NEWS. ANY

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

AGENDA? >> EMOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE NOTE . VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU,

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>> I HAVE NONE. >> WE ARE ON TO OUR FIRST

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

AGENDA ITEM . >> I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE TO

APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA. >> THANK YOU , COMMISSIONER DEAN. PLEASE VOTE. ONTO OUR CLERK OF THE COURT.

[1. Presentation of the St. Johns County Surplus and OPEB Investment Portfolios.]

>> GOOD MORNING. HERE TODAY WITH PFM TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON OUR COUNTY INVESTMENTS FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. SO THEY

WILL KICK US OFF. >> I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE.

WE ARE GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIE OF THE COUNTY FUNDS AND HOW IT PERFORMED LAST YEAR , LAST FISCAL YEAR. AS YOU WILL HAVE SEEN FROM THE REPORT, LAST YEAR IS VERY CHALLENGING FOR EVERY SEGMENT OF INVESTMENT. THE FEDERAL RESERVE WAS LATE TO TH PARTY IN RECOGNIZING THAT INFLATION WAS TAKING HOLD IN TH ECONOMY. MUCH OF THE POST-PANDEMIC PERIOD , THERE WERE SEVERAL FACTORS , SUPPLY CHAINS, ISSUES WITH COUNTRIES BEING SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF HEALTH CONCERNS. ALL CONTRIBUTED TO THE HIGH COST HERE IN THE U.S. AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. AND SO IN 2021, THE FED KEPT COMMUNICATING THAT THEY THOUGHT THESE FACTORS WOUL BE TRANSITORY. IN FACT, THEY BECAME VERY STICKY. THE FED BEGAN AN AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN T RAISE SHORT-TERM INTEREST RATES WHICH HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON ALL INVESTMENT MARKETS. PARTICULARLY FIXED INCOME. IN THE CASE OF COUNTY SURPLUS , THEY ARE INVESTED IN TWO STRATEGIES. BOTH ARE HAVE AVERAGE MATURITIES , AVERAGE DURATIONS OF UNDER THREE YEARS. THIS SEGMENT OF THE MARKET WAS PARTICULARLY IMPACTED BY SHORT-TERM INTEREST RATES. AS A RESULT OF THAT , THEY ARE ONE TO FIVE YEAR PORTFOLIOS. THE MARKET IS ALSO IMPACTED BY THAT THIS FOR YOUR PORTFOLIO, THE PERFORMANCE WAS DOWN 4.5%. BUT THAT OUTPERFORMED THE BENCHMAR , WHICH IS 1 TO 3 YEAR TREASURY INDEX WHICH WAS DOWN BY 4.86%.

SIMILARLY, THE 1 TO 5 PORTFOLIO WAS DOWN 6.64% , STILL OUTPERFORM THE BENCHMARK WHICH WAS DOWN 6.78%. WE ALWAY GET THE QUESTION OF IT'S GREAT THAT WE OUTPERFORMED THE BENCHMARK, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN? WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THE RISING INTERES RATES AFFECTED THE UNREALIZED MARKET VALUE , THE POTENTIAL VALUE OF YOUR INVESTMENTS , YOU WILL STILL GET THE VALUE OF THOSE AS THEY GET REINVESTED.

HOWEVER, NOW THE INTEREST RATE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. THE HIGHEST LEVELS WE HAVE SEEN SINCE 2007. WHEN YOU ACTUALLY REINVESTED THESE HIGHER LEVELS, YOUR INCOME WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SPEND. SO INSTEAD OF EARNING BEFORE 2022 AT NEAR ZERO, IT'S NOT EARNING AT 4 TO 5% INTEREST LEVELS MOVING FORWARD. SO I'L PASS IT OVER TO MCCAULEY TO TAL

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>> ALL BE VERY BRIEF. THE OTHER PORTFOLIO INVESTMENTS PORTFOLIO, DUE TO THE LONG-TERM NATURE OF LIABILITIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PORTFOLIO AND ACTUARIAL TARGET RATE OF RETURN OF 6.5% , INVESTMENTS HAVE TO BE ALIGNED WITH THAT LIABILITY TIME HORIZON AS WELL AS THE EXPECTED RATE OF RETURN.

THE PORTFOLIO HOLDS EQUITIES, DOMESTIC STOCKS , INTERNATIONAL STOCKS AS WELL AS FIXED INCOME THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSIFIED AND LONGER-TERM NATURE. SO THAT PORTFOLIO IS LOT MORE VOLATILE. BECAUSE IT HAS A LONGER-TERM TIME FRAME.

SO I DID EXPERIENCE A VERY NEGATIVE YEAR FOR 2022. THE PORTFOLIO WAS DOWN. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, IT WAS DOWN 15.5% THE BENCHMARK WAS DOWN 16.56% SO IT DID UNDERPERFORM THE BENCHMARK , GOING FIVE YEARS LONGER-TERM . THE ONE YEAR RETURN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR WAS -18.1% , VERSUS THE BENCHMARK 18.15. GOING BACK TO 2008, WHEN THE PORTFOLIO WAS FIRST INVESTED, AVERAGING 6.18% ANNUALIZED RATE OF RETURN. THE BENCHMARK IS BETWEEN 5.21 AVERAGE RATE OF RETURN. IT'S DOING ITS JOB TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE ACTUARIAL DISCOUNT RATE. IT WAS A NEGATIVE YEAR I 2022. THE PORTFOLIO HAS SINCE PICKED UP , IN JANUARY WE HAD A POSITIVE 8% RATE OF RETURN FOR THE MARKETS SO IT IS RECOUPING SOME OF THOSE LOSSES. BUT OVERALL, IT IS WELL DIVERSIFIED AND ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM

LIABILITIES. >> THANK YOU, MR. CLERK.

>> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

1. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, I'M ALWAYS COMPLAINING, WHY AREN'T YOU BUILDING ROADS? WHERE IS THE MONEY, WHERE IS IT BEING DEPLOYED OR WHY IS IT NOT BEING DEPLOYED? AFTER HEARING WHAT THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE SAID, I THOUGHT A CHART THAT SHOWED THE INVESTMENT AND ITS $355 MILLION THAT BEING SAID, JUST ON THE LOSS OF 4.4%, THAT IS A LOSS O OVER $15 MILLION. I DON'T EVE KNOW WHICH CATEGORY THAT WAS, FOR THESE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING INVESTED , WHERE IS THAT INCOM COMING FROM? IS THAT IMPACT FEES? AND WHY AREN'T THESE BEING DEPLOYED FOR THE PURPOSE OF WHICH THEY WERE COLLECTED? IF THEY ARE SO NEEDED THAT WE PAY THEM AND YOU INVEST THE MONEY FOR A FOUR YEAR WINDOW, THE COMMUNITY IS CRYING OUT FOR THESE RESOURCES TO BE DEPLOYED.

SO RATHER THAN INVESTING THEM LONG-TERM, IF YOU NEED TO COLLECT THEM AND THEY NEED TO B SPENT. SO FROM THE PRESENTATION, IT SOUNDS LIKE QUITE A BIT WAS LOST AND I WOUL JUST ENCOURAGE YOU RATHER THAN LOSING MONEY , ACTUALLY DEPLOY THEM IN THE COMMUNITY . BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE SUFFERING ARE THE CITIZENS AND YOU HEAR THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN THEY SHOW UP HERE. AND THEY ARE ANGRY AND UPSET . AND I DON'T BLAME THEM, I WOULD BE TOO. THEY BLAME US AS DEVELOPERS SAYING WE ARE NOT SHARING OUR FAIR SHARE, WE ARE PAYING. THE FUNDS ARE JUST NOT BEING DEPLOYED. I BEG YOU TO DEPLOY THE RESOURCES TO HELP TH CITIZENS. EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY I WAS THE DEVELOPER THERE. IT UPSETS ME THAT IT TAKES ME THREE CYCLES TO GET THROUGH THA LIGHT. TAKE THESE RESOURCES AND PLEASE DEPLOY THEM AND MAKE TH

CITIZENS HAPPY. >> THANK YOU.

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>> GOOD MORNING. >> A THIRD OF $1 BILLION. $1 BILLION HERE, $1 BILLION THERE PRETTY SOON YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NO MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE WORKING COMMITTEE SYSTEM. WE NEED TO HAVE SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS FOR EACH COMMITTE THAT HEAR THESE KIND OF ISSUES. WE ONLY GET THESE REPORTS ONCE A YEAR. A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR LIST OF INVESTMENTS. YOU KNOW WHAT THE REPLY WAS? SEND US $22 AND WE'LL TELL YOU. THE ANSWER IS IN THAT REPORT THEY DO EVERY JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. AND I HAV SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY WE AR BUYING CORPORATE STOCK. THEN W LOSE MONEY ON THE DEAL. LET'S GET A BUDGET COMMITTEE, LET'S GET ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS INSTEA OF HAVING A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO SAYS I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY LACKS A WELCOMING SPIRIT. PFM IS A SUBSIDIARY OF U.S. BANK. NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING AND TELLING US WHAT STOCKS TO BUY, THEN LOSING MONEY. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE CONTRACT WAS REBATED? I KNOW UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE PUBLIC COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THEY HAD A SWEETHEART DEAL WITH PFM. THEY DID SOME REALLY SORROWFUL WORK. THE BEST EXAMPLE IS MOSQUITO CONTROL. PFM NEVER DI GET A BILL, THEY WOULDN'T SAY. PFM DID A STUDY OF MOSQUITO CONTROL AND RECOMMENDED , BUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY OUGHT TO TAKE OVER MOSQUITO CONTROL. IT WAS BASED PURELY UPON ASSUMPTIONS.

THEY GOT $5 MILLION, WE CAN JUST TAKE IT. THE DEAL FELL, MOSQUITO CONTROL IS STILL INDEPENDENT AND SHOULD REMAIN INDEPENDENT. BUT THE $5 MILLION THEY HAD IN THE BANK WAS RESTRICTED FOR MOSQUITO CONTROL. WE NEED TO BID THAT CONTRACT. CAN WE PLEASE STATE ON THE RECORD WHEN THAT WILL BE PAID? AND LOOKS FOR SOMEBODY WITHOUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT? >> I DO HAVE QUESTIONS. WHO D WE VALUE AS THE HOLDINGS? THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONABLE

HOLDINGS . >> WE HAVE OUR INVESTMENT POLICY FROM THE COMMISSION. AND THEY ACTIVELY MANAGE OUR PORTFOLIOS. SO THERE IS THIS SPECULATION, BUT IT'S KEPT IN A

DIVERSIFIED STATE. >> BASED ON WHAT IS ALLOWED, W FOLLOW WHATEVER THE INVESTMENT POLICY IS. TO THE EXTENT YOU WANTED TO RAISE THAT CREDIT MINIMUM, YOU COULD CHANGE THAT

POLICY. >> A LOT OF FOREIGN COMPANIES WHEN IS THE CONTRACT UP FOR REBID?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATIO BUT I WILL FIND OUT

>> THANK YOU. >> I THOUGHT SEVERAL GOOD QUESTIONS WERE RAISED DURING TH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IT PEAKE MY INTEREST AS AN OLD FORMER STATE BUREAUCRAT. I LOOK AT FUNDS AS EITHER ENCUMBERED OR NOT ENCUMBERED. AND LONG-TERM INVESTMENTS , TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE IN SOME

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PROJECTS? >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTIO . THESE ARE NOT ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OU BUDGET REFERRAL. WE HAVE A BOARD APPROVED BUDGET, THINK O IT AS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT. YOU MAY HAVE A PLAN FOR IT, BUT AT THIS TIME YOU'RE GOING TO INVES IT. SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE CASH FLOW. SOME OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATED INTO THE ADOPTED RESERVE. OTHERS ARE APPROPRIATED INTO CAPITAL PROJECTS AND OPERATIONS. BUT I TERMS OF THE TIMING. WE HAVE A 1.5 LANE DOLLAR BUDGET, WE DON' NEED $1.5 BILLION IN CASH ON DAY ONE. WE MAY BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AS WE ARE DRAWING DOWN ON EXPENDITURES , THOSE REVENUES ARE INVESTED SO THERE IS SOME RETURN ON THOSE AS THEY ARE NOT BEING USED. YOU MAY NEED TO BUY AN AUTOMOBILE LATER ON THIS YEAR. IN THE MEANTIME, KEEP THAT MONEY IN TH SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

>> THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS OFFICIALLY. MY POINT IS, I THINK WHAT THEY JUST EXPLAINED BASICALLY REINFORCES MY EARLIE STATEMENT THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE $300 MILLION WE CAN SUDDENLY TRANSFER. WE NEED TO MAKE GOOD, FINANCIAL DECISIONS WE MAY AT A LATER DATE , I JUS SAW THE NOTE WE ARE HAVING THE TRANSPORTATION SUMMIT. WE NEED TO BUILD AVAILABLE FUNDS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD POINT TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION.

>> I COMPLETELY GET THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE MORE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET OF WHAT WE CAN PUT TOWARD THAT. BUT WHO DOES THE INVESTMENT POLICY , WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? AND WHO CREATES IT? I FEEL LIKE WE COULD DO

BETTER. >> THE COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO WRITE ITS OWN INVESTMENT POLICY. THE LAST TIM IT WAS REVIVED WAS IN 2021. IT WAS ADDED AS A PROHIBITIVE INVESTMENT. IT'S AVAILABLE TO BE .

>> CAN WE GET TOGETHER TO DO THAT? EVERYTHING CHANGES EVERY

YEAR. >> I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR LEGAL. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO HAVE A MEETING?

>> PUBLICLY NOTICED SUNSHINE MEETING SCHEDULED AT YOUR DISCRETION. IT JUST HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE SUNSHINE LAW.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. CLERK, THE FLEXIBILITY YOU HAVE

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>> BY AND LARGE, WE HAVE THREE MAIN FUNDS WE MANAGE. THE SURPLUS FUND, AND THE OPB. THAT IS DEPENDENT A LOT ON WHA JESSE WAS SPEAKING TO. I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THAT. WE WORK VERY CLOSELY TO ENSURE DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE FOR PROJECTS WHEN THE ARE NEEDED. OTHERWISE WE TAKE THOSE AND HELP INVEST THEM ON VARIOUS TIME HORIZONS TO TRY AN RECOUP AND GENERATE AS MUCH INTEREST AS POSSIBLE. THE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT MAKE UP SURPLUS FUNDS IS IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT. SO IT'S AVAILABLE . THINK IT'S A VERY HELPFUL DISCUSSION FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEIR PUBLIC DOLLARS ARE. THREE PRIMARY FACTORS , THE SECURITY OF THE DOLLARS. ARE THEY IN A SPECIFIC TYPES OF ACCOUNTS ? AND ARE THEY SUFFICIENTLY LIQUID ? LASTLY, THIS IS IMPORTANT, PERFORMANCE. THE LAST FACTOR THAT WE LOOK AT AS WE LOOK AT INVESTMENTS IS REGARDING THE PERFORMANCE OF THE VARIOUS INVESTMENTS. IT'S LAID OUT IN THAT ORDER, AND IS SOMETHING THAT WE KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON.

>> THE STATE STATUTE IS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE INVESTMENT POLICY. EVERY YEAR WE CHECK THE POLICY AGAINST STATE STATUTE . WE ALS COMPARE AGAINST OTHER COUNTIES.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT WE TAKE SECURITY IS THE FIRST CONSIDERATION. I'M THINK ABOU WHAT IS PERFORMING THE BEST IN THE MOMENT, BUT YOU HAVE TO D IT THE INVERSE WAY. THE GOVERNMENT IS PUTTING FORTH LEGISLATION FROM CONSIDERING YESTERDAY AS PART OF THEIR INVESTMENT POLICY. DID THE COUNTY HAVE AN EST CONSIDERATION?

>> NOW, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE POLICY. THE TRADITIONAL WA OF CHOOSING AND ANALYZING INVESTMENTS BASED ON CREDIT ANALYSIS , FINANCIAL OUTLOOK AN ALL THAT.

>> WE DID A REVIEW IN DECEMBER. OUR SURPLUS FUNDS HAVE NO DIRECT OR INDIRECT EXPOSURE. S THAT'S AVAILABLE TO PROHIBIT

SAID INVESTMENT. >> I THINK THIS IS JUST ANOTHE THING THAT WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE ON. AND PERHAPS WE SHOULD PASS THIS OF THE POLICY THAT IS SOMETHING WE MAY WANT

TO CONSIDER. >> IN ADDITION TO YOUR EXCELLENT POINT ABOUT THE THREE DIFFERENT CRITERIA , THAT HAD THE DOW GONE UP 15%, I WOULD HAVE SOME REALLY SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON BUT REALISTICALLY, THE DOW TOO A SUBSTANTIAL DIP. EVERYONE , OUR STATE BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION, WHICH MANAGES THE FRS STATE RETIREMENT FUND TOOK A BIG HIT. OTHER COUNTIES I ASKED THIS DURING THE

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DIFFERENT CRITERIA. >> I WANT TO COMMEND THE PUBLIC FOR ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS AND ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION. FINANCIAL STABILITY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTAN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTY. D WE HAVE A MOTION OR ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION? >> I WILL MOVE IT. MOTION TO ACCEPT THE INVESTMENT REPORTS A PRESENTED BY THE CLERK OF FLORIDA AND PFM ASSET MANAGEMENT

>> CAN WE ADD SOMETHING THERE? WHAT YOU DISCUSSED ABOUT EST , IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS A BOARD?

>> I'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT.

>> COULD YOU HELP US CLARFY THE THOUGHT

>> >> I'M GOING TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THE INVESTMENT REPORTS AS PRESENTED. I'D LIKE TO DIRECT OUR COURT TO PROHIBIT CONSIDERATIONS OF THE COURT OF

INVESTMENT POLICY. >> THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BEFORE THAT . WE'RE GOOD.

>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES

[2. PFS MOD 2022-01 Amendment to Grand Oaks Concurrency and Impact Fee Agreement (Proportionate Fair Share Agreement - PFS AGREE 2018-03).]

ON TO AGENDA ITEM 2. THE AMENDMENT TO GRAND OAKS AND

IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT. >> MIKE ROBINSON, DIRECTOR OF

GROWTH MANAGEMENT. >> THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN THAT REQUEST AFTER THE PRESENTATION OR BEFORE.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK RATHER THAN HAVE A PRESENTATION, I WA TOLD BY OUR STAFF THAT THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO SUGGES A CONTINUANCE OR POSTPONEMENT OF THIS ITEM. I WOULD RECOMMEN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT . THAT WE JUST ENTERTAIN THAT AS DISCUSSION ITEM RATHER THAN HAVE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION.

>> I'M COUNSEL FOR GRAND OAKS SOUTHEAST PARTNERS. WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TODAY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO FINALIZE THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, AND WE ARE WITH STAFF NOW IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR IN DETAIL , QUANTIF THE AMOUNT FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION, DESIGN AND OTHER

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>> WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD FO DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.

>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THIS AT THIS TIME. I THINK IT'S TIME WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 2018, IT'S TIME TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> I WILL SECOND THAT.

>> THE BOARD CAN DO IT IF IT DESIRES. BUT NOT TAKING ACTION ON IT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A DENIAL.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION, I WILL AS THE BOARD TO VOTE ON WHETHER TO

CONTINUE THIS ITEM. 'S >> A YES VOTE IS TO DENY THE CONTINUANCE. THAT CARRIES 5- TO DENY THE CONTINUANCE.

>> WILL GIVE YOU A QUICK BRIEFING. JUST A BIT OF HISTOR AND WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. THE DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED IN 2018 , THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND DEVELOPER WAS T WIDEN 3.1 MILES OF STATE ROUTE 16 . AGREEMENT TERMS, 10.1 MILLION FOR PROP CHAIR WHICH I ELIGIBLE . THE PUBLIC BENEFIT CONTRIBUTION WAS 4.8 MILLION, GIVEN TO THE COUNTY FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT THAT ULTIMATELY GOES TO 15 MILLION.

AND THAT WAS THE ESTIMATED COS AT THE TIME. AS WITH MANY OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, WE HAD SOME TRIGGERS ESTABLISHED FOR TRAFFI PROJECTION CAPACITY. BASED ON THE COST PER UNIT. ULTIMATELY, THEY HAD A SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLAN. RIGHT NOW, IT'S INDICATED THAT 5 MILLION. SO THE TRIGGERS, WE ARE AT 44 RIGHT NOW SO IT'S IN A HOLD WIT THE COUNTY. BEFORE THEY GO TO 443RD UNIT. THE DEVELOPER WOUL HAVE ACQUIRED ALL AND COMPLETE DESIGN FOR THEIR SECTION. WE DO NOT HAVE A COMPLETED DESIGN AT THIS POINT. 'S I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT 88% .

THAT'S WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION SHOULD COMMENCE. THOSE ARE BASED ON CONCURRENCY. IT CORRESPONDS TO MAKE SURE THERE

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THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW BASED ON WHAT WE SUBMITTED, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A REDLINE . BUT ULTIMATELY, THE PROJECT CONTRIBUTION WAS 16.7 MILLION. INCLUDES THE 1.7 MILLION IN ENGINEERING AND SITES. SO THE NEXT ARE REALLY THE ONES WE AR TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING PLANNING AND ULTIMATELY TRAFFIC ON 16.

THEY WOULD PAY 2.6 MILLION TO THE COUNTY TO ALLOW IT FROM 442 UP TO 620. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT THEY WOULD PAY 7.2 MILLION T ALLOW THE COUNTY TO PLAT THE REMAINING . AND WHAT STAFF CONCLUDES, OUR OPINION OR ASSESSMENT. NO OTHER PARTY IS COMMITTED TO A PROJECT TO THIS WORLDCOM'S HAD GIVEN A PRESENTATION , THEY DO HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY BUT IT'S SO FAR OUT THERE. THEY ARE IN PHASE ONE , THEY NEEDED TO GET THE PHASE THREE WHICH IS WAY OU THERE. THE DEVELOPER PROPOSAL TO LEAD OBLIGATION AND CONSTRUC THE ROAD WIDENING , ALLOW PLOTTING OF ALL ROAD UNITS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND CURRENT AGREEMENT FOR THE REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY THE

DEVELOPER. >> THANK YOU, MR. ROBERTSON.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> IF I MAY, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. YO MIGHT WANT TO ALLOW THAT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, FORGIVE ME. WELCOME.

>> I MAY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THE PRESENTATION.

>> CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE HELP HER

>> MORNING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. COUNSEL OF THE SOUTHEAST OF ELEMENT PARTNERS LLC. WE ARE HERE ON THE IMPACT AGREEMENT THAT STAFF HAS SUMMARIZED FOR YOU. I HAVE A PART OF MY TEAM WITH ME TODAY. I DO HAVE MR. MARK HARRIS WITH ME, AND MR. KEN METCALF WITH OUR OFFICE. I DO NOT HAVE MY TRAFFIC ENGINEER. AND ANOTHER ONE OF MY PARTNERS FOR SOUTHEAS , THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT AND HE IS STUCK IN TRAFFIC. SO IT'S A TYPICAL , THEY WOULD BE HERE FO THIS AGREEMENT . WE WORKED OUT THE TERMS BEFORE WE SHOWED UP. BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY, WE HAVE SOME POINTS FOR CONSIDERATION O THE BOARD THAT CAN ONLY BE EXPLAINED IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. SO WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ABOU THAT TODAY. GOING BACK TO 2018 WHEN THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED. WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, STATE ROAD 16 , YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION. THE RED BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT . AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS, THE ROAD WAS FAILING AT THE TIME THAT WAS SUBMITTE FOR REVIEW. AND CONSIDERED DEFICIENT. THAT WAS THE STATE OF THE ROAD WHEN THEY SUBMITTE

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GRAND OAKS HAS GONE ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF CONSTRUCTING THE ROADWAY AND MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE COMPLETE APPROXIMATELY 80% OF THE DESIGN WORK, PERFORM SURVEYS, WITH REQUIRED RETENTION PONDS. AT THIS POINT, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT CIRCUMSTANCES HAD CHANGED AND THAT IT WOULD COST 380% MORE THAN WAS APPROVED IN 201 TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OF TH PROJECT. AND SO WE INITIATED MEETINGS WITH STAFF TO TRY TO COME TO A SOLUTION. AND WE ARE TWO YEARS INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS. IN ADDITION, THE CONVERSATION HAS SHIFTED. THE WANT TO DESIGN THE ROAD, AND THEY'D LIKE TO DO A 5.5 MILE MORE SENSE FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD IS THAT NEITHER THE COUNTY NOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CAN FUND THIS IMPROVEMENT WITH THIS 380% INCREASE. WITHOUT SEEKING FUND ELSEWHERE. TYPICALLY FROM THE LEGISLATURE. AND SO FOR THE SAME REASONS THE COUNTY HAS TO GO OUT TO FIND FUNDING TO PAY FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT , THE DEVELOPER ALSO CANNOT FUND THIS. SO THE SOLUTION HAS ALSO BEEN IN TO WIDEN 16. OUR FOCUS IS WORKING WITH F.AND THE COUNTY TO COMMENCE A SCHEDULE THAT WILL MEET THE PUBLIC NEEDS THE ROAD IS OPERATING AT 88.3% IS WHAT STAFF INDICATED. SO WITH OR WITHOUT THE REMAINING PLATS , STATE ROAD 16 WILL FAIL IN ABOUT THREE YEARS. BUT THESE TRIPS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT COME WITH A FINANCIAL PAYMENT. THAT MOVES THE BALL ON THE ROADWAY. THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT WERE ACCURATE AS REFLECTED BY STAFF. THERE'S A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING RESOLVED BY THE BOARD.

BECAUSE THAT RELEASE OF AN ADDITIONAL 140 FLATS . WE HAVE COMPLETED 80%

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>> THINK YOU PICKED WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. WE CAN TAKE THIS

INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> AND MOANING. >> AFTERNOON. THESE COMMENTS TIE IN DIRECTLY TO MY COMMENTS ON THE LAST SUBJECT. THIS IS A VERY CONTENTIOUS SUBJECT. I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER JUST TO SAY WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE CITIZENS ARE SUFFERING, THEY AR SUFFERING IN THAT AREA. MY MOTHER HAD A SAYING WHEN MY BROTHER AND I WOULD GET INTO A FIGHT, IF YOU ARE BOTH UNHAPPY WITH MY DECISION THEN I MUST HAVE BEEN FAIR, KEEP THAT IN MIND. I KNOW EVERYBODY THINKS THEY ARE RIGHT BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, WE NEED TO STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHA HAPPENED, WHO SAID WHAT AND JUS THINK ABOUT THE CITIZENS IN THE AREA AND MOVING THIS FORWARD IN SOME MANNER . THIS CAN HAVE UNTIL THIS HAPPENS OR THAT HAPPENS, THAT DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD . KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND REALIZE THE END RESULT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE. TRY TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND TO GET TO THE END INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY DIGGING IN. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. IN MOURNING. >> CHUCK , 1748 NORTH, PIRO . A MOST OF YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE RED 1 FOREVER. COMMISSIONER DEAN, I THINK YOU RUN UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD QUITE OFTEN SO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE. I CAME DOWN IT THIS MORNING, IT WAS BACKED UP MILE AND A HALF, TRAFFIC WAS MOVING 20 MILES AN HOUR, NOTHIN SLOUGHING IT UP SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE TRAFFIC , COULD BE THE HOLIDAY.

IT'S TIME WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE HAVE TO GET THE FUNDS SOMEWHERE TO TAKE CARE OF 16. D.O.T. RIGHT NW WANTS TO START PLANNING THIS , THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF MONEY THROWN AWAY FOR DIFFERENT SURVEYS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE.

ANOTHER SMALL BRIDGE AT THE CREEK ON 16, THEY HAVE BORED NOTHING THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. THAT IS A COST THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW , WE CAN'T KEEP DUMPING MONEY INTO 16 AND NOTHING BEING DONE. IT'S TIME T MOVE FORWARD . THANK YOU.

>> I KNOW WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESIDENCE HAVING TO TRAVEL ON OUR ROADS THAT ARE NOT UP TO PAR. IT ALL GOES BAC NOT SO MUCH FOR THE RESIDENCE, IT STARTS WITH DEVELOPERS. WHA THEY WILL AND WON'T DO, WHAT THE STATE SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO AND DON'T HAVE TO DO. LET'S KEE THAT IN MIND ALSO. WE HAVE OVER DEVELOPED , WE HAVE CAUSED A PROBLEM . WE WANT TO SOLVE IT AND LISTENING TO THE PRESENTER FROM GRAND OAKS , WE ARE GOING TO BE SUED. I KNOW, I'M NOT A LAWYER BUT I LISTEN TO ALL OF THE STUFF THAT GOES ON. IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT TODAY THEY WIL SUE US. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT I'M NOT RIGHT, I HOPE I'M NOT RIGHT BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE

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AT THE DROP IN THE BUCKET. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED OR WHAT IF I WERE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT BUT LET'S NOT JUST BRING UP THE CITIZENS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS, LONG YEARS , EVEN THOUGH I TRY NOT TO TRAVEL 16 OR U.S. ONE AND I HATE TO GET ON 95 BUT YO TAKE YOUR LIFE INTO YOUR OWN HANDS . THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GET TO SOME OTHER THINGS ALSO. WE WILL SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY . THE START THESE PROGRAMS AND THEN THERE IS NO MONEY AND THEN THEY WANT TO COME BACK IN A FEW YEAR AND CHANGE IT. WE ARE DOING THI ALL THE TIME. IF YOU DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING, THIS IS WHAT WERE GOING TO DO IN 2016, LET'S DO IT, DON'T COME BACK HERE AND CHANGE IT ALL UP. IT'S THE MONEY AND WITH THE WAY MONEY IS INFLATION , 17S NOT GOING TO DO IT, I KNOW THAT BUT FIND THE OTHER MONEY OR BE SUED. I HOPE I'M WRONG. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND SLAVEN , I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON AS FAR AS A SUIT. CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY OF ATTORNEY MEMO, I WOUL AGREE WITH THEM. LET'S NOT JUS KNUCKLE UNDER THE DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THEY THREATENED TO SUE US, I THINK WE HAVE A COURT REPORTER , LET THEM SUE. IF THAT LAWYERS. LET'S NOT RUBBERSTAMP THIS AGREEMENT BECAUSE OF A BUNCH OF FAST TALKING MULLARKEY. THEY HAVEN' PRESENTED ANY EVIDENCE OR , THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO GET THE PARTIES IN FRONT OF A MEDIATOR AND SEE IF SOMETHING CAN BE WORKED OUT BUT DON'T BE AFRAID OF A LAWSUIT. WE HAD A GUY AND HE SAID HIS GOAL IN LIFE IS A PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR WAS NOT TO GET SUED.

THAT IS NOT OUR GOAL, THAT IS NOT AMERICA LET'S REJECT THIS AND INTERNALIZE THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THEM AND LET'S NOT LET DEVELOPERS GET AWAY FROM THEIR RESPONSIBILITIE , PLEASE REJECT IT AND I AGREE WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER TWO? >> PUBLIC COMMENT IS ACCUSED, WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD, ANY THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSION ?

>> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. >> THE POINT OF THE MONEY COMIN IN IS SO THEY CAN RELEASE MORE HOMES ONTO A ROAD THAT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT. MADE AN AGREEMENT TO BUILD THE ROAD, THEY NEED TO BUILD THE ROAD AND THAT'S MY OPINION. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OF THE APPLICANT?

>> I WILL SPEAK TO THIS. THIS I MY DISTRICT. THIS IS BEEN GOIN ON FOR FIVE YEARS . I THINK YOU HAD PLENTY OF TIME , I'VE WATCHED THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL IN 2018 COUNTLESS TIMES AND IT'S PRETTY UNQUESTIONABLE THE DEVELOPERS AND I QUOTE THE DEVELOPER WILL COMPLETE THE ROA AT THEIR COST AND THEIR RISK.

THE DEVELOPER WILL COMPLETE THE ROAD AT THEIR COST AND THEIR RISK. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IN M DISTRICT AND IT LOOKED UP MORE TRAFFIC ON ONE OF THE MOST PRIORITIZED AND EFFICIENT ROAD IN THE COUNTY. WHILE I WAS NOT ON THE BOARD THAT APPROVED THIS DEVELOPMENT I COULD NOT WERE STRONGLY STAND WITH MY CONSTITUENTS DEPENDED ON THAT BOARD TO REQUIRE SPECIFIC DEVELOPER ASSURANCES AND GUARANTEES UPON THEIR APPROVAL WHICH THEY DID. THAT PREVIOUS BOARD STOOD FOR US AND I THINK IT'S TIME WE STICK WITH WHAT THEY AGREED TO PICK I'M PREPARE TO MAKE A MOTION IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

>> I DO. TYLER WOULD YOU MIND PULLING UP THE PRESENTATION AND PLAYING THE VIDEO CLIPS . I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS BOARD TO CONSIDER WHAT THEY WERE HEARING IN 2018 AND THEY CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. BACK THEN IT WAS A QUASIJUDICIAL ITEM IN AS YOU KNOW DURING THOSE HEARINGS WE ARE REQUIRED TO ACQUIRE THE

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YOU ROLL THE CLIPS ? >> THE FISHER AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD DESIGN, ACQUIRED THE POD AND CONSTRUCT THE FOUR-LANE OF THE STATE WOULD 16 FROM THE INTERSECTION OF CENTER QUINTO ROAD TO THE EASTERN ENTRANCE OF GRAND OAKS AND THAT IS APPROXIMATELY THREE MILES FOR AN ESTIMATE A COST OF $50 MILLION. THE COMMITMENTS WOULD REQUIRE PRIOR TO THE PLANTING O THE 581ST PLAT OR WEDNESDAY WOULD 16 REACHES 90% OF CAPACITY, WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST. PAYMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR EACH PLAT THAT

WOULD BE HELD IN ESCROW . >> THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSITION TO WIDEN STATE ROAD 16 TU THE EASEMENT WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY THREE MILES IN LENGTH. THE AND ALSO AS PART O

THE MITIGATION. >> IF THAT IS A COMMITMENT, A GUARANTEE THAT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE, IF THAT ESTIMATE WHICH I KNOW YOU HAVE NOW IS 15 MILLION BUT IF IT TAKES 18 MILLION OR 20 MILLION , THAT SECTION HAS T BE COMPLETED. YOU ARE COMMITTING THAT THAT HAS TO BE DONE, IT'S NOT 15 MILLION I'M SORRY NOW IT'S 20 MILLION WE CA DO IT. IS GUARANTEED TO GO IN.

>> YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA A CONCURRENCY AND IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT THAT IS CONTINGENT ON YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IN THE REZONING

APPLICATION. >> THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THAT DOCUMENT. YES IT SAYS IF THE ESTIMATE WERE 15 MILLION AND I COST $20 MILLION TO BUILD THEY HAVE TO SPEND $20 MILLION TO BUILD IT. IT IS THE DEVELOPERS RISK.

>> TO ALLOW THIS ROAD TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN FIVE YEARS FROM THE DATE OF APPROVAL, NOT TO SOMEBODY FIFTY-YEAR THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE THE ROAD WHETHER THEY HAVE 581 UNITS OR

NOT. >> THANK YOU.

>> WIDENING OF THREE MILES OF STATE ROAD 16 IS A BIG WIN FOR

THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY. >> THAT IS THE FINAL CLIP. I WANT TO GO HIGHLIGHT THE THINGS I HEARD WENT OUT TO LISTEN. WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY STAF WHO IS ASSERTING TO THE COMMISSIONERS AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THREE MILES AS A TRANSPORTATION OBLIGATION. WE HAD APPLICANTS TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND EXPERT ASSERTING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THREE MILES OF 1 AS A TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE AT THE TIME THING WAS AT THE DEVELOPERS RIS THEY HAD TO COMPLETELY THREE MILES OF ROAD WHETHER THEY HAD THE 581 UNITS OR NOT. THEN WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO UNDERSTOOD HAVING LISTENED TO THE HEARING THAT THE THREE MILES THAT WAS BEING OFFERED AS A DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT AND OBLIGATION FOR TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION. YOU HAVE A MEMBER OF STAFF, THE APPLICANT AND A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS WERE VOTING ON AT THAT TIME I WAS BEING OFFERED B THE APPLICANT WAS HE WIDENING OF THE THREE MILES , NOT TIED T A DOLLAR AMOUNT BUT TIED HE WIDENING THE THREE MILES. TO M IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THINK IT'S PART OF OUR JOB AS COMMISSIONER TODAY TO ENFORCE WHAT PAST BOARDS APPROVED . WE STILL REPRESENT'S RESIDENCE TODAY. I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT IT'S NO TIED TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT TIED T THE WIDENING OF THE THREE MILES OF THE ROAD. NOT BECAUSE IT WA REQUESTED BUT BECAUSE IT WAS OFFERED BY THE APPLICANT. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS PICK DOES

ANYBODY HAVE 70 THOUGHTS? >> I JUST WANTED TO ECHO YOUR COMMENTS. I THOUGHT THE CLIPS WERE VERY POWERFUL. THERE HAS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY POWERFUL

WHAT WAS PUT TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU.

>> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE OR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I THINK W

ARE READY FOR A MOTION. >> MOTION TO DENY THE FISHER AGREEMENT MODIFICATION 2022 -- 01 ADMITTED TO CONCURRENCY AND IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT FO THE GRAND OAKS POD FINDING HIM AND IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND ARTICLE 11 IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE

AS AMENDED. >> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION, DO

WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

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>> A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, PLEASE NOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE IN THANK YO

TO THE APPLICANT. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, MR.

HONORED ARNOLD. >> MOTION TO FIND THE DEFAUL SET FORTH IN THE GRAND OAKS CONCURRENCY PROPORTIONATE FISHER AGREEMENT 2018 -- 03 BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS NUMBER ONE GOT THE DEVELOPERS FAILED TO HONOR ITS CONTRACTUA COMMITMENTS TO WIDEN APPROXIMATELY 3.1 MILES OF STAT ROAD 16 AND THE SUBDIVISION TO COINCIDE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION NUMBER TWO, THESE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS ARE MATERIAL TO THE AGREEMENT AND MATERIAL TO THE BOARD'S PRIOR DECISIONS TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPERS AND REZONING APPLICATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE THE SUBDIVISION. PURSUANT TO SECTION 11 OF THE AGREEMENT THE DEVELOPER HAS DECLARED IN DEFAULT IN $5.04 MILLION IN PER-UNIT CLAIMANT'S ESCROW WITH THE COUNTY ARE NOW NONREFUNDABLE AND SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO FUND THE DESIGN OF A PROJECT FOUR-LANE SEGMENT ESTATE READ 16. THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HA ELECTED TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS TO D.O.T. SO THE DESIGN MAY COMMENCE AS OF JULY 1 OF THIS

YEAR 2023. >> WE HAVE A MISSION FROM

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> SECOND.

>> PROPER SECOND , PLEASE NOTE VOTE. THAT MOTION CARRIES

[3. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2022-06 ICI Middlebourne PUD.]

>> ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 24 I MESSED MET WITH MR. PAYTON ONLY BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THE PROJECT AND ON FEBRUARY 2 I DID MEET WITH SMITH AND HAMILTON AN STAFF TO DISCUSS IT AS WELL.

>> ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 9 AT 1:00 I MET WITH SMITH AND HAMILTON AND SEVERAL STAFF TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CARWASH AND ADDITIONAL BUFFERING THAT WOULD BE DONE AS PART OF THEIR

APPLICATION. >> I HAD A MEETING ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 9 , 2023 AT APPROXIMATELY NOON WITH SMITH AND HAMILTON AND STAFF AND WE DISCUSSED BUFFERING, PROJECT CHANGES THEY MADE AND SOME CONCERNS.

>> ISO MET ON THURSDAY, FEBRUAR 9, 2023 WITH SMITH AND HAMILTO AND STAFF DISCUSSING WHAT THEY WERE SHOWING ME , THE CHANGES

SINCE THE LAST TIME. >> I TWO ALSO HAD A MEETING HER IN THE OFFICE AT 2:00 WITH SMITH AND HAMILTON AND STAFF TO DISCUSS CHANGES REMAKING TO THE PLANTS , THE INCREASED VEGETATION IN THE BUFFER. WELCOME.

>> YOU HAVEN'T AGED A DAY. >> THANK YOU. IT'S NICE TO SHO UP AND BE ON THE SCREEN. THAT' ANOTHER SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER DAY FOR THE RECORD ELLEN AVERY SMIT ROGERS TOWERS 100 WEST PLACE HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. WITH ME TODAY IS BECKY HAMILTON AND MIK JACK AND TIM O'REILLY. WE WILL CALL THEM IF WE NEED THEM FOR THEIR EXPERT OPINIONS OR INFORMATION ABOUT GATE PETROLEUM, THE PROPOSED CARWASH IN THE PROPOSED GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE. SINCE WE AR TALKING A LOT ABOUT HISTORY TODAY , WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT , IT'S BEEN IN PLACE THE PD WAS APPROVED BY YOUR PREDECESSORS EXCEPT FOR DEAN WHO WAS HERE IN 2018. THE PROPERTY INCLUDED THE NORTHEAS QUADRANT OF VETERANS PARKWAY AND LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY , THE SOUTHWEST CORNER IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER. THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THIS PIECE ON THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT . GOING BACK SEVERAL YEARS IN HISTORY, GOING BACK WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PROJECT THERE WAS A PLAN A MINUTE TO CHANGE THE LAND-USE DESIGNATIO OF THE RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS OF

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THE WETLAND IMPACTS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE WE HEARD ABOUT IT AT OUR LAST HEARING , THE WETLAND IMPACTS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL WERE APPROVED IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PUD BACK IN 2018. NO CHANGES WERE MADE IN 2020 AND NO CHANGES TO WETLAND IMPACTS ARE BEING PROPOSED BY THIS MODIFICATION.

AGAIN, I'VE ALREADY STATED THA THE RESIDENTIAL BE ADJACENT WA A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL NOTE WAS PUT IN PLACE AT THAT TIME FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. ALL WE'RE DOING TODAY IS MODIFYING THAT ALREADY APPROVED PUD TO ADD ON LAND-USE FOR ONE SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY TO ALLOW A CARWASH FACILITY THAT IS SPECIAL USE UNDER THE LAND ABOUT THE CODE. THERE ARE ALSO DEVELOPMENT PARAMETERS FOR THAT CARWASH THAT WILL BE ABIDED BY AND WE'L TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A MINUTE. THAT IS ONLY TO BE AFFILIATED O ASSOCIATED WITH THE GAIT CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION THAT IS PERMITTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT ALREADY ON THIS PROPERTY. GAIT GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE AND ASSOCIATED CARWASH . ALSO I WILL SHOW YOU ON THE SITE PLAN WAIVER TO MODIFY THE LANDSCAPE AND BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS BEHIND THAT CONVENIENCE STORE TO ALLOW REAR LOADING OF TRUCKS IN THE BACK SO AS NOT TO HAVE TRUCKS INTERFERING WITH YOU AN I GOING IN AND GETTING GAS OR BUYING A COKE OR WHATEVER IT TH STORE. WE CAN GET IN AND OUT SAFELY WITHOUT TRUCKS

INTERFERING. >> YOU SEE THE ASSOCIATES LOGO HERE. THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IS BEING AMENDED, NOTHING WITH RESPECT TO THE WETLAND IMPACTS WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PLAN BEING MODIFIED. YOU CAN SEE TH GAIT PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE OUTLINED IN RED ON THIS MAP JUST TO SHOW YOU THE LOCATION . HERE IS WHAT I CAL THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT SO YOU HAVE VETERANS PARKWAY AND LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY , YOU CAN SEE SHADED BACK AND HEAR THE PROPOSED WETLAND IMPACTS AND THEN PROPOSED PRESERVATION.

HERE IS A PRESERVATION , THIS WETLAND PRESERVATION AND VEGETATION ARE IMPORTANT TO THIS APPLICATION AND WE'LL TAL ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED WATER POND, HERE IS CONVENIENCE STORE HERE IN THE CARWASH YEAR. THIS WILL BE FUTURE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER THAT I THINK IS IN PLANNING WITH ST. COUNTY RIGHT NOW. ZOOMING IN, YOU SEE THE CONVENIENCE STORE , HERE THE GA PUMPS IN THE CARWASH . AND SUPPORT TO NOTE THAT THE CARWASH TUNNEL IS ORIENTED AWA FROM NEARBY RESIDENTIAL. THE POND IS BEHIND THE WETLANDS THAT WILL SERVE AS A BUFFER FOR THE CARWASH. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE CARWASH OPERATION IN

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THE EMPLOYEES DO MONITOR THE MUSIC TO KEEP THE SITE CLEAN SO IT WILL NOT BE A DETRIMENT T ANYONE. WE DID HAVE A COMMUNIT MEETING A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THERE WERE SOME RESIDENTS THAT SHUT UP WITH A COUPLE CONCERNS. THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCENIC EDGE ALONG LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY IS NOT CLEAR-CUT.

THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE DEVELOPERS HAVE GONE AND CUT DOWN THE NATIVE VEGETATION , WE HAVE ENHANCED THE LANDSCAPING PLAN ALONG HERE , THIS IS A PLA THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. WE ARE SUBMITTING IT SO YOU KNOW THIS IS THE VEGETATION PROPOSED ALON LONGLEAF PINE PARKWAY AND I THINK THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT BUFFERING HERE AND VEGETATION AND USING NATIVE VEGETATION. I WILL SHOW YOU THE PLANS FOR THA COMMUNITY MEETING, THEY DID ENHANCE THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AND I WILL SAY THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS, IT PROVIDES MORE INCHES , ABOUT 70 MORE TREE INCHES AN REQUIRED BY CODE IN THIS AREA. THE AND ALSO YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE MAGNOLIA TREES, DIFFERENT KINDS OF GRASSES THAT ICI WANTED TO HAVE AND MUCH MORE TREE AND VEGETATION , 850 SHRUB ARE PROVIDED VERSUS THE CODE MINIMUM OF 466. A LOT OF ENHANCED LANDSCAPING IN FLORID FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING THAT WAS PROVIDED IN RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY COMMENTS AND ADJACEN NEIGHBOR COMMENTS. HERE IS WHA THE EXISTING CARWASH LOOKS LIKE AND CONVENIENCE STORE. YOU CAN SEE THE VEGETATION AND THE NICE ARCHITECTURE , THIS WILL BE THE SAME ARCHITECTURE . WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOUR STAFF REPORT SAYS STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT , THEY GIVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF ACCOMMODATION FOR NOISE ATTENUATION PROVIDED BY YOUR CODE, THEY WILL COMPLY WITH YOUR CODE AND LEAVING NATURAL VEGETATION IN THE WETLAND AREA BETWEEN THIS AREA AND THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ONLY TO THE NORTH BUT ALSO TO THE EAST.

THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY'S TO THE EAST, THERE IS A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CONTINUOUS WETLAND THAT WILL BE RETAINED THERE TO BUFFER FROM THE COMMERCIAL ONLY FOR GAIT BUT FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES THERE.

THE PCA RECOMMENDED YOU APPROV THIS APPLICATION SO WE WILL RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE TO APPROVE IT TODAY. IF YO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW. I FORGOT TO MENTION THE OTHER WAIVER, I APOLOGIZE, TRUCKS WILL LOAD BEHIND THE

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>> THANK YOU. >> I WATCHED THE LAST NOVEMBER 1, 2022, I DID NOT SEE ONE CHANGE AT ALL WHEN I MET WITH YOU AT THE OFFICE YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME CHANGES, THE HOUSE HAVEN'T MOVED, THE CARWASH HASN'T MOVED, THE BUFFERING YO MENTIONED WITH THE BOTTLE BRUS AND TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS, DON'T KNOW, I ASSUME YOU ARE CLEAR CUTTING THE LONGLEAF PARKWAY PINES AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE DIFFERENCES ARE BECAUSE IF THERE AREN'T I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AND ARNOLD WHO ALREADY DENIED THE

APPLICATION. >> SINCE THE LAST MEETING I THINK YOU WERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

>> I WATCHED THE VIDEO TWICE. >> A COUPLE THINGS HE DID NOT KNOW THAT TIME. WE DID NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND THAT CAUGHT MR. O'REILLY CA COME SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT HIS DIMENSIONS BECAUSE THIS IS THE PLAN THAT PROSSER CAME UP WITH WE DID NOT REALIZE THERE WERE LITERALLY 441 FEET BETWEEN THE CARWASH TUNNEL IN THE NEAREST LOT IN THE MIDDLEBOURNE PROJECT. THAT IS THE CLOSEST

RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. >> IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN IN

THE LAST PRESENTATION? >> IT IS ADDITIONAL.

>> HAS THE HOMER PLANT MOVED? HAS THE CARWASH MOVED ANY DISTANCE FROM WHAT WE SAW IN TH NOVEMBER 1?

>> NO, MAN. THERE WERE CONCERN ABOUT NOISE.

>> THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT YOU PUT SOME REDLINES UP THERE BUT THE ACTUAL DISTANCE, AND IT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST THOUGHT WAS 300 FEET BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT IS NOT.

>> AND OTHER THING THAT HAS CHANGED FOR THE RECORD, I MENTIONED EARLIER BUT I'LL MENTION IT AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ICI WHO IS THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER WHOSE LO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE DID AGREE WITH THEM BECAUSE THIS I A NEW PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED T THE STAFF LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE AND I THINK WE DISCUSSE IT WITH ALL OF THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE FACT THAT ICI WANTED ITS PROJECT IDENTIFICATION SIGN FOR ITS RESIDENTIAL PROJECT , W SWITCHED THIS PLAN WHICH IS NE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TO PUT THE SIGN OUT FRONT AND MOVE TH SITE BACK A LITTLE BIT. BOTH SIGNS ARE PERMITTED IN THE PUD

TEXT. >> I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THE SIGNS THE COMMENTS WERE NOISE, DISTANCE AND ROAD TRAFFIC FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL , ON-SITE WETLANDS AND NO BUFFER ANYWAY WAIVER OF THE BUFFER, I GET YOU PROMISING THESE THINGS BUT I WATCHED WHERE YOU CLEAR-CUT AN I'VE TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY WERE GOING TO COME IN AND HELP THOSE PEOPLE PUT A FENCE IN AND SOME BAMBOO IN LANDSCAPING AND NOTHING IS HAPPENED IN A YEAR AND A HALF . HOW DO I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO D

WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO >> COMMISSIONER JOSEPH, I WILL SAY THIS ON BEHALF OF GAIT, THEY HAVE BEEN A WONDERFUL CORPORATE CITIZEN OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND MANY OTHER COUNTIES IN OUR AREA FOR YEARS. WHAT HAPPENED WITH DOLPHIN CO. WAS ENTIRELY ALLOWED UNDER THE ZONING OF THAT PROPERTY. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT RESIDENTS WERE UPSET ABOUT IT, GAIT IS WORKIN TO MITIGATE THINGS WITH THOSE RESIDENTS IF YOU WILL BUT THAT IS A PROJECT THAT IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.

>> I UNDERSTAND BUT IT SHOWS TH ABILITY OF HOW MUCH TALKING AN NOT DOING. I STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS IN DECEMBER WITH MR PAYTON, HE SAID I WOULD GET A LANDSCAPE PLAN IN JANUARY, THE END OF JANUARY, FEBRUARY, IT'S ALL TALK. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME ACTION AND YOUR PROMISING THINGS HERE THAT AGAIN FROM NOVEMBER 1, 2022, THERE'S NOTHING DIFFERENT IN THIS PLAN. GOING TO AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS THAT DENIED ORIGINALLY. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TO SAY.

>> OKAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION FROM THE

BOARD? SING NONE, MOISTURE . >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL

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>> CHUCK , THIS IS IN YOUR PACKAGE BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ONE THING. THIS IS TH WETLANDS THAT WERE DESTROYED B PUTTING IN A CARWASH, WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP DESTROYING WETLAND BECAUSE SOMEONE HE WANTS TO WASH THE CAR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> I AGREE. I DISAGREE WITH THE UNSWORN TESTIMONY OF THE COUNCIL THAT THE GATE CARWASH ON ANASTASIA ISLAND IS QUIET. LIKE TO BE SWORN IN AS A WITNES IF I MAY BUT WHETHER I'M SWORN OR NOT, I WAS THERE AT THE FIS ISLAND PRESERVE WHICH 50 OF US TESTIFIED BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND THANKS TO HENRY DEAN AND THE FLORIDA FOREVER LAW THE PERSISTENCE OF THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE FISH ISLAND IS NOW OURS, IT IS A PAR WITH STATE FUNDS. WHAT DID GAI DO? THEY BOUGHT LAND RIGHT NEX TO THE PRESERVE WITH AN ANNOYING AND NOISY CARWASH.

AFTER FIRST VISITING THE PRESERVE AND HEARING THAT CARWASH , IT IS NOT QUIET. THA DOG WON'T HUNT. I HAVE FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE CRIMINAL DIVISION OF THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE CONCERNING THE BALD EAGLE NEST ADJOINING THAT CARWASH OWNED BY GATES. ASKED FOR A CRIMINAL AND CIVIL AND ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION UNDER THE EAGLE GOLDEN PROTECTION ACT IN THE MIGRATORY BIRD FREE ACT BECAUSE UNDER THOSE LAWS, THE HISTORY OF THA PLOT IS 2001 , OCTOBER 8, THOMPSON THE FOUNDER OF THE ST. AUGUSTINE RECORD ORDERED A BAL EAGLE NEST TREE CUT DOWN AND HE WAS CRIMINALLY PROSECUTED AND HAD TO PAY A THIRD OF $1 MILLIO AND 16 ACRES OF MITIGATION.

THAT IS THE HISTORY OF THAT PROJECT. IN NO WAY IS THAT CARWASH QUIET. WHEN YOU LOOK A THE ACADEMIC AND INDUSTRY LITERATURE ABOUT CARWASHES , THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO MAKE CARWASHES QUIET. THEY DID NOT DO THEM ON ANASTASIA ISLAND AND THEY ARE NOT DOING IT AT LONGLEAF PARKWAY. AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS WHO VOTED DOWN THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE, PLEASE DO IT AGAIN. WE DON'T NOISY CARWASHES, SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS ARE WORSE THAN ANY CARPETBAGGER WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SUBJECT THE NEIGHBORS AND TH WILDLIFE , WHAT YOU WANT TO DESTROY A WETLAND SYSTEM THEY CAN GET THE CAR WASHED. THEY ARE HIDEOUS AND NOISY AND PROLIFERATING. THERE MUST BE A LOT OF MONEY IN HIM BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF ORGANIZED CRIME. I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU BEGIN TO DENY THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> FIRST OF ALL I ENJOYED THE EARLIER VIDEO NUMBER TWO. I APPRECIATE THE PERSON OR PERSON WHO PUT THAT TOGETHER. WE ARE ON CAMERA FOLKS YOU HAVE TO SE WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS, IT'S GOOD, I LIKE THAT. JUST TO EDUCATE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE EAST I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU GET TO DO THAT BUT THE CARWASH SIGN IS A HIGH BILLBOARD , BILLBOARD SIGN

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>> I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. WHEN THE LAWYER SHOWED A PICTURE OF HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK I WISH THE PICTURE HAD BEEN OF THE CARWAS THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED NEXT TO FISH ISLAND PRESERVE. IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AND AND THINKING PEOPLE I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER AND FISH ISLAND PRESERVE TO THANK THE RESIDENT THAT STAYED ON THIS THING AND GOT IT DONE AND ARE STILL GOIN TO BE ON IT. LET'S DENY IT FOR-ONE, I'M GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN THE VOTE BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE THREE IF MS. ARNOLD AND MR. WHITEHURST GO WITH MISS JOSEPH . WE WILL SEE HOW THE VOTE GOES THIS TIME. W WANT TO PUT THIS OFF TILL WE GO EVERYBODY UP THERE AND WE'VE GO THEM NOW. WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TODAY. IT'S BEEN INTERESTING SO FAR. I LOVE VIDEOS. THANK YOU.

COMMENT ? THING THAT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> BACK TO THE BOARD. BACK TO THE APPLICANT.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO POINT OUT AND I WAS IN FOR THE RECORD THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE WETLAND IMPACT DEPICTED HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BOARD. NONE O THE PROPOSED WETLAND IMPACTS THAT ARE SHOWN ON ANY OF THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ARE BEING CHANGED . AS WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION IT IS A COMMUNITY CORNER FOR FIVE YEARS. IT WAS INTENDED TO BE COMMERCIAL AS WA THE CORNER ACROSS LONGLEAF PIN PARKWAY AND ACROSS VETERANS PARKWAY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WETLAND IMPACTS ALREADY BEING APPROVED. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AND I'M GLAD MS. HAMILTON CORRECTED ME THAT IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER JOSEPH COMMENTS, GAIT HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS SHOWN ON THIS PLAN. THE PROJECTS ARBORIST AND LANDSCAP ARCHITECT HAS ADDED VEGETATION THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS PLAN. I DID NOT RECOGNIZE THAT SO I CORRECTED IT FOR THE RECORD. THIS IS A NEW PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE ON NOVEMBER 1. I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT BECAUSE WE ARE IN A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING THAT THIS APPLICATIO HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. NO OTHER PROJECTS I GAIT OR ANY OTHER PERSON CAN BE CONSIDERED BY THI BOARD. THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF MY CLIENT DUE PROCESS RIGHTS. WAS POSTED LIK TO TALK ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS, THEY ARE NOT MATERIAL TO ITS BEING CONSIDERED SO I RESPECTIVELY SUBMIT THAT AND W ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER

QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE. >> BEFORE HE MOVED FORWARD WITH FOR DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS, CAN YOU TOUCH ON WHAT MISS SMITH SAID IS A SPORT ALLOWED TO CONSIDER OTHER PROJECTS THE GAIT HAS DONE ? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW.

THAT PROJECT TO THE NEXT PROJEC THAT MIGHT NOT BE COMPARABLE HOWEVER I THINK SUCH EXPERIENCE MAY GO TO CREDIBILITY IF YOU WILL. IN THAT RESPECT I THINK IT CAN BE

CONSIDERED. >> THANK YOU .

>> CAN YOU GO OVER THE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AGAIN TO SHOW THAT HAVE A ZOOMED IN COPY. 324 INCHES ARE REQUIRED , 393 INCHE ARE PROVIDED AND I WILL ALSO SAY TO MS. HAMILTON IF SHE HAS MORE DETAIL ABOUT THIS AND SHE IS WELCOME TO COME UP HERE IF SHE WANTS TO. I WILL NOTE ON THE LIST ON THE TABLE THAT SAYS

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PROVIDING MORE TREES, MORE LANDSCAPING AND AT THE BOTTOM 850 SHRUBS PROVIDED AND THE MINIMUM IS 466. GOING TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TABLE THEY ARE PLANNING TING LARGER LIVE OAKS AND MAGNOLIAS AND THEN UNDER THE NOTES COLUMN THE CAPITAL IN ITS NATIVE VEGETATIO IN THE WW IS WATER WISE AND THE FF IS FLORIDA FRIENDLY. YOU CA SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE THE NUMBER 393 INCHES OF TREES BEING PROVIDED. THOSE OF THE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE LANDSCAPING .

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. REOPENIN FOR COMMENTS AS WELL OR JUST

QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> NOW BE THE TIME FOR COMMENTS THEIR COMMENTS AND YOUR PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A BUSINES YOU'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THEIR SERVICES OF A CAPITALIST SOCIETY PEOPLE THAT WANT THE CARWASH TO GO THERE, THERE'LL BE NO BUSINESS AND THEY WILL HAVE TO CLOSE UP BUT THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT IT'S A BUSINESS TRYING TO EXPAND THE SERVICES.

THINK GAIT IS A GREAT PARTNER LOCALLY. THEY ALWAYS GO OUT OF THEIR WAY WITH THESE MEETINGS T MEET WITH FOLKS AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS . I WOULD LIKE T OFFER A MOTION TO ENACT THE ORDINANCE, MAJOR MODIFICATION THE MIDDLEBOURNE PD.

>> WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND .

>> PROPER MOTION AND PROPER SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. I DID VOTE IN RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL LAST TIME BUT BASED ON THE ADDITIONA INFORMATION I AM NOW IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. I WANTED TO

STATE THAT ON THE RECORD. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION

[4. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2022-17 Century Acres.]

GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS QUASIJUDICIAL. COMMISSIONER JOSEPH .

>> NO MEETING, I DID CALL THE BUT DID NOT GET A CALL RETURNE UNTIL LATE LAST NIGHT SO I DID NOT TALK TO THEM AT ALL.

>> I SPOKE WITH MR. HOLLY SMITH ON FEBRUARY 13 REGARDING THEIR

APPLICATION . >> I ALSO SPOKE WITH HOLLY SMIT ON FEBRUARY 13 AT APPROXIMATEL 11:00 AM, HE JUST RELATE TO ME FOR THE VARIANCE AND REMINDED M THAT WE VOTED ON THIS ITEM IN

THE PAST. >> I GUESS I HAD A SIDEBAR DISCUSSION WITH SMITH JR. LAST TUESDAY HE IS SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE AS ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS.

>> I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HOLLY SMITH YESTERDAY EVENING , IT WAS A BRIEF CONVERSATION .

>> DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION O THE APPLICANT? IN MOURNING.

GOOD MORNING. >> THANK YOU FOR SERVING US I ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, I KNOW YOU PUT IN A LOT OF DIFFICULT HOURS AND A LOT OF CONTROVERSY AND DIFFICULT DECISIONS. WE ARE GRATEFUL. TO THE CHAIR AND BOARD, ON BEHALF OF MATT , VER CLOSE FRIENDS OF OURS , REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO CONTINUE BUILDING A HOME ON CENTURY AKERS LANE BY GRANTING PERMISSION FOR ONE MORE RESIDENCE ON THE ROAD . I THINK WE HAVE A FEW SLIDES . JUST FO ORIENTATION, IT IS THE ROAD

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I'VE MET WITH ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ON CENTURY AKERS LANE AND THEY AGREE THE NEW LOT IS REASONABLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND WOULD ADD VALUE T THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE VOICED SUPPORT AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM STAFF BUT MATT AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. DI YOU DO THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION OF COMMUNITY BUIL

RIGHTS AND IF SO, WHEN? >> I'M NOT SURE THE DATE IT WAS

MAILED OUT . >> ROUGHLY 2 WEEKS AGO.

>> THANK YOU >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? CAN YOU TAKE US INT PUBLIC COMMENT .

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HELP PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. SEEING THAT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD? I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE 2022 -- 17 CENTURY AKERS REQUEST OF THE LINDVALL THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR A NEWLY CREATED LOT TO TAK ACCESS FOR ME EXISTING EASEMEN AND FOR RELIEF FROM PUTTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NEWLY CREATED LOT SPECIFICALLY LOCATE AT 1631 CENTURY AKERS LANE. BASED ON THE FACTS AND

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>> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE .

>> IT PASSES 5-0. ONTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THAT IS ALSO QUASIJUDICIAL. I THINK WE ARE READY FOR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF MY FATHER, CURRENT OWNER OF LITTLE CANTRELL, IF YOU CAN ALLOW THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY OF 4.3 ACRES OF LAND WITH COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE WITH THREE CONDITION TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE WITH JUST ONE CONDITION. AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RECTANGLE IS THAT IS WHERE WE WANT TO REZONE RIGHT NOW IT WAS INITIALLY RESOUND FOR A TRUCK REPAIR SHO AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS IN REGARDS THAT WE ARE WANTING TO REZONE BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO RV BOAT STORAGE AND KEEP IT SIMPLE AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE

TODAY. >> TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THI

TIME? >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. SEEING NONE

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WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM

THE BOARD? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I FIND THIS TO BE COMPATIBL , MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 202 -23 LITTLE CATRELL BASED ON TH

STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> CAN THE CLERK OF THE COURT GIVE US THE NUMBER?

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>> 2223 -- SEVEN . >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS. THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE ONT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX X

PARTAKE, COMMISSIONER JOSEPH? >> NO MEETING.

>> NON- >> I HAVE NONE.

>> I HAVE NONE. >> DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? GOOD MORNING.

>> MY NAME IS MATT AND I HAVE SIMPLE ZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY STATED REHEAR. PART OF THAT PROPERTY MY GRANDFATHER OWNED DEEDED TO MY FATHER AND HE IS GOING TO DEEDED IT TO ME WITH PLANS TO BUILD A HOME ON IT. EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS RESIDENTIAL SO JUST A SIMPLE REZONING REQUEST WITH PLANS TO

BUILD A HOME. >> SHORT AND SWEET. COMMISSIONE

JOSEPH? >> THERE IS AN AGREEMENT OF TH EXIT , YOU'RE EXITING TO THE BACK?

>> YES MA'AM ONTO OLD LEWIS SPEEDWAY.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? PUBLIC COMMENT ?

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. SAYING THEN, THE BOARD WILL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD?

>> I'M PREPARED TO MOVE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2023 APPROVING REZONING 2022 -- 27 AT 37 66 OLD LEWIS SPEEDWAY BASED ON TH FINDINGS PROVIDED ANY STAFF REPORT.

>> AND MOTION FROM DEAN, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. SUCKING MOTION AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE

VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE SCHEDULE TO MOVE INTO EIGHT WHICH ARE COMPANION ITEMS AND AM SORT OF TORN ON WHAT TO DO AM ANTICIPATING A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT . WHAT IS THE BOARD'S WILL HEAR ? ANY THOUGHTS?

>> I THINK STARTING PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE GREAT IN THE W CAN GO FOR LUNCH AFTER THAT. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME?

>> I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

AT 11:30. >> DO YOU THINK IT WILL GO

BEYOND THAT? >> PRETTY SURE WILL HAVE TO

STOP . >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I THOUGHT THE ADVERTISED AGENDA INDICATED WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT AT 11:30 OR EARLIER S I THINK EVERYONE IS GOING TO B HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS PROBABLY HERE. IF THEY ARE NOT WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK ON ONE SIDE OF THOSE TWO ITEMS OR THE OTHER. WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST EFFICIENT FOR THE PUBLIC AND US. ANOTHER'S TWO ITEMS MIGHT BE SOME LENGTH. ANYWAY I WOULD BE INCLINED TO START PUBLIC COMMENT NOW MYSELF.

>> HAVING HAD TWO COMMISSIONERS AGREE WE SHOULD HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT NOW, CAN WE HERE AT THIS TIME ? IS THERE ANY ISSUE

HOW TO WORK THE AGENDA. >> ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL GO TO 11:30 SELF ANYBODY SHOWS UP AT 11:30 IT MIGHT BE

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COUPLE PEOPLE . >> I AM OPEN TO SUGGESTION SO W WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN BREAK FOR LUNH AND THEN HEAR ITEMS SEVEN AND EIGHT. META-MOISTURE MADAM VICE CHAIR

>> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT NOT ON THE AGENDA ANYBODY WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME IN STATE HIS OR HE NAME AND ADDRESS.

BOARD WITH SLANDEROUS REMARKS O BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FRO ANY DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION.

FINALLY, WHAT IS THAT ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL, PLEASE PRESENT THAT MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OR CLERK OF COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.

THANK YOU. WELCOME. >> HELLO. TREY ASNER . IT SAYS ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY EMBRACES ITS HISTORIC HERITAGE. MY EXPERIENC IS AS OTHERWISE. I SURVEYS THE COUNTIES COORDINATOR UNTIL ADMINISTRATION FORCED ME AND MY JOB. I WAS TOLD THAT AFTER BEIN HIRED, THAT THERE WAS HOPE THAT I WOULD BE VALUABLE TO THE POSITION. I WAS INSTRUCTED TO HIDE A REPORT ON HASTINGS HIGH SCHOOL THAT WAS REQUESTED BY TH CULTURAL RESOURCE REVIEW BOARD TO APPEASE ADMINISTRATION. THIS WAS AN OBSTRUCTION OF THE BOARD'S MISSION TO MANAGE AND PROTECT HISTORIC RESOURCES. WHE I ASKED MY MANAGER IF SHE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT PROPERTY THAT WA REPORTED TO HAVE SLAVE GRADES O IT, I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS WALKING ON THIN ICE IN VIOLATION OF THE COUNTY CODE AN CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. I WAS INSTRUCTED TO STOP THE CR RP FROM DESIGNATING HISTORIC SITES. ADMINISTRATION HAD BECOME CONCERNED, APPARENTLY, THAT HAVING SITES DESIGNATED WOULD SHARE OFF DEVELOPMENT. A HISTORIC STRUCTURE NEAR BUTLER BEACH. TH CRP ASKED ME TO DRAFT A LETTER TO THE BCC ASKING FOR SUPPORT O A GROUP WHO WANTED TO SAVE THE STRUCTURE. COMMISSIONER WALDRON WALKED IT ON AND THIS BOARD SUPPORTED THAT RECOMMENDATION.

ADMINISTRATION, HOWEVER, DID NO SEE THE VALUE IN THE PRESERVATION OF COUNTY HISTORY, ESPECIALLY BLACK HISTORY AND TH ACTIVE HISTORIC PRESERVATION RACISM ORDER THE STAFF TO FIND A WAY TO GET RID OF ME IN MY OFFICE. THE DAY AFTER I QUESTIO MY MANAGER, I WAS REPRIMANDED FOR INSUBORDINATION FOR SENDING A REQUEST TO DRAFT VERSION OF A LETTER TO THE CRP FOR REVIEW. I WAS SO THAT I SENT THE INCORREC VERSION OF THE LETTER AND SERVE MY MANAGER. AFTERWARDS I CHECKE AND FOUND OUT I HAD SENT THE CORRECT VERSION. HE THREATENED TO FIRE ME IF I DID NOT RESIGN FOR THE REPRIMAND AND BLAMED MISS BREWER, MY MANAGER. WHEN I LAID OUT THE FACTS OF THE REPRIMAND, HE TOLD ME THE TRUTH AND EXPRESSED TO ME THAT ADMIN WANTED ME GONE FOR PUBLIC INTERACTION. AFTERWARDS, MR. CONRAD REFUSED TO MEET WITH ME AND POINTED THE FINGER AT MANAGEMENT AND HR. WHEN I ASKED THAT HE TOLD ME IT WAS HIM AND ASKED IF THAT WAS TRUE, HE NEVE RESPONDED TO MY EMAIL. WHEN I REQUESTED TO MEET WITH COMMISSIONERS, THE ATTORNEY OFFICE IN HERE EMAIL ME SAYING THAT THEY TOLD COMMISSIONERS NO TO TALK TO ME BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR LITIGATION. THEY MET WITH ME DESPITE THAT ADVICE AND I THANK YOU. MR. CONRAD HAS ASKED TO HAVE HIS CONTRACT RENEWED EARLY TO AVOID ACCOUNTABILITY FOR GETTING AHEA OF THE INVESTIGATIVE GENERAL REPORT. PLEASE WAIT TO ETHICS I THE PUBLIC, WHICH YOU SERVE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COME ON DOWN. >> GOOD DAY, COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY OFFICIALS. PRESIDENT OF THE MASTER BOARD. I'M HERE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED FEBRUARY 7TH AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE A COUPLE OF AREAS THA WERE PUT INTO CONTEXT. NUMBER ONE, THE TOPIC OF MARSH LANDING STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS IS EFFECTIVE AND MAY I REMIND YOU THAT THE DISTRICT SAID SO A OUR MEETING LAST JUNE IN FRONT OF A COUPLE HUNDRED OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT ANY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. W GET THAT. WE HAVE A 30 YEAR RESERVE STUDY PLAN. IN ANY RESPECTS, WE WONDER WHY WE ARE

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HE ALSO SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE HELD TO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF ASSESSMENTS, JUST AGAIN FOR YOUR BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE. A COUPLE ASKS. COMMUNICATE WITH US IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS GOTTEN OUT OF HAND. NOT AT ONE POINT IN THE GENESIS OF ALL THIS WHERE WE ASKED FOR THE RESERVE STUDY. WE ASKED THAT BEFORE SPENDING COUNTY FUNDS ON REPORTS AND INVESTIGATIONS, AGAIN, SPEAK WITH US BEFORE YIELDING TO WHAT RESPECTFULLY, THE LITIGATION PRESSURE. CONSIDER THE OUTFALL AND RAMIFICATIONS ON THE ASSESSMENTS AND INCREASES IN DUES OF OUR RESIDENTS. WE ASK YOU TO, AGAIN RESPECTFULLY, HAL WHAT APPEARS TO BE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. I DON'T THINK I CA FIND ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT'S BEING HELD TO THE STANDARD. THE LAST QUESTION, WENDY REPORT COMES OUT, PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE AN EFFECTIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WE ARE PLANNING TO DO SO. ALLOW US THE COURTESY OF PLANNING FOR THAT AND BUDGETING THAT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL FOR ASSESSMENTS. AGAIN, CONSIDE THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER 2500 OR SO RESIDENTS. THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT TAKE CARE OF THE DRAINAGE.

THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT UNDERSTAND THAT FLOOR ELEVATION IS TO BE SIX FEET. PLEASE LOOK AT THE LITIGANTS. MANY, IF NOT ALL OF THEM THAT IS CLAIMING FLOOD DAMAGE, IS SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW SIX FEET. AGAIN, WE ASK YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE REPORT COMING OUT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH

FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR. COME ON DOWN

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MY SOS MESSAGE TO THE BOARD. I MET ALL OF YOU, MOST OF YOU, IN PERSON AND A BUNCH OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MET YOU EXPLAINING TO YOU HOW MUCH DAMAGE THE LOW WATER LEVELS HAVE CAUSED A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES. PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND THEY ARE ABOUT TO SPEND MUCH MORE AND THE PROBLEM CONTINUES. IT HAS CONTINUED THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT EXISTED. IT IS A PROBLEM THAT IS CREATED. IT WAS ARBITRARY AND POSITION. THERE WAS NO REASON TO IMPOSE THAT.

THE COMMUNITY WAS WORKING PERFECTLY FINE FOR 35 YEARS. NO PROBLEM TO ANYBODY. THE LAKES WERE LOWERED AND AS A RESULT, A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AND THE ENVIRONMENT IS DAMAGED. IT'S NOT JUST THE PROPERTIES. THE ENVIRONMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN DAMAGED SUBSTANTIALLY. WE REQUEST YOUR HELP. I HAVE SENT LETTERS TO AL OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY. SENT LETTERS COLLECTIVELY. I MET WIT YOU EXPLAINING TO YOU EXACTLY WHAT OUR REQUESTS ARE. THIS BOARD HAS THE POWER AND MEANS AND IT HAS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP 500 RESIDENTS. I'M THE PRESIDENT AN I SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. IT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR CONTROL AT THIS POINT. YOU HAVE HIRED HIM TO DO AN ANALYSIS. ALL THA WE ARE REQUESTING IS, PLEASE AS HIM TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE ANALYSIS OF THE SAME DATA THAT HE HAS AND USING THE MODEL THAT HE HAS ACCESS TO. THAT WILL HEL US TO RESTORE OUR LAKES AND PREVENT THE DAMAGE TO A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND I'VE INVITED AL OF YOU TO COME AND SEE HOW BADL THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN DAMAGE AND HOW BADLY THE ENVIRONMENT HAD BEEN DAMAGED. I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE ON NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA AND YOU WOULD CONSIDER HELPING THE 500 RESIDENTS OF HOAS TOO. NOT JUST THE POTENTIAL TREATMENT WHO ARE

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>> SIR, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR ABOUT TWO AND HALF YEARS. I'VE BEEN ON THE MASTR BOARD FOR ALMOST 1. MY RELATIVELY SHORT TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'VE ATTENDED MANY BOARD MEETINGS, ALONG WITH TOWN HALLS RELATED T THE STORE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

WHAT I HAVE SEEN , AND I HOPE YOU WILL AGREE, IS THAT THE MASTER BOARD AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY HAVE RESPONDED IN A TIMELY MANNER TO EVERY QUEST AN ACTION REQUIRED OF THEM. I'M AWARE OF ALL BUT 31 OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE ST. JOE -- ST JOHN'S. THE ONE REMAINING CONDITION TO BE COMPLETED IS BEING PROTESTED BY THE VERY RESIDENT IT'S MEANT TO HELP. MY POINT BEING THAT THE MASTER BOARD AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPAN ARE IN FULL COOPERATION WITH TH COUNTY IN THE DISTRICT. HOWEVER THE GOALPOST CAN USE TO MOVE DOWNFIELD. SLOPES WERE ONE AND COUNTY OWNED SEWAGE LISTINGS AR ANOTHER IN BOARD MEMBERS HAD TO TAKE TIME TO DISCUSS THE SITUATION WOULD BE A THIRD.

THESE ARE THREE EXAMPLES OF ITEMS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW THEY GOT HERE AND NOW WE HAVE YET ANOTHER REPORT COMING OUT. WE PREVIOUSLY HAD ONE WITH THE FLOWERS REPORT. WE WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS AND I WOULD LIKE TO RE-EMPHASIZ MR. GREAT MILLS REQUEST EARLIER KEEPING IN MIND, THE ROSARY'S POSSIBILITIES OF THE STORM WATE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS DEFINED AN OUR COVENANT, THE 10TH OF HOAS AMAR SCHEIDEGGER RESPONSIBLE FO THE RAINWATER REMOVAL FROM THE ROADWAYS AND INTO RESIDENTIAL YARDS OR COMMON AREAS. HOMEOWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO GET THE RAINWATER COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY OFF TO THE MARSH O OTHER, AS DESIGNATED BY THE SPECIFIC PLOT. THE PREVIOUS ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING ON THE SEVENTH OF FEBRUARY SPENT TIME TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY SPENT TO PROPERLY DRAIN THEIR OWN YAR AND THEN HOW MUCH THEY'VE HAD TO SPEND, ADDITIONALLY, SINCE THE POND LEVELS HAVE GONE BELOW THE GROUNDWATER LEVEL CAUSING A SEVERE EROSION INTO HER YARD. I CAN BRING COUNTLESS OTHER RESIDENTS FROM THE SAME AREA TO COME TALK ABOUT ALL THE MONEY THEY'VE SPENT TO DO THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS PART OF THE DOCUMENTS. THE ONE THING THAT NOBODY COULD ALLEVIATE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, HIS TITLE SEARCH, WHICH THESE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS IS NOT MEANT TO DEAL WITH AT ALL. IT IS FOR RAINWATER ONLY. THE DOCUMENTS OUTSIDE OF THAT, SO MY HOME BACKS UP TO A MARSH IN THE CUL-DE-SAC AND I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ASKED ON

QUESTION OF OUR TEAM? >> SURE.

>> WHEN ARE WE EXPECTED TO GET THE REPORT BACK?

>> I THINK MR. TAYLOR HAS BEEN WORKING.

>> YES, WE RECEIVED NOTICE OVER THE WEEKEND THAT THE REPORT THA HE'S DOING FOR THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IS DELAYED AND BECAUSE THE INFORMATION HE IS USING IN THAT REPORT COULD AFFECT OUR REPORT, HE'S NOTICED US THAT THE DELAY AND WE NOW EXPECT IT TO BE A FINAL DRAFT T THE COUNTY NO LATER THAN MARCH 13TH SO THAT IT CAN BE PRESENTE AT THE MARCH 21ST MEETING.

>> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS SAM PRICE. I'M IN DISTRICT 3. ANASTASIA ISLAND.

I'M HERE TO HAVE ONE ASKING TWO COMMENTS TODAY. THE DUNES ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM. I'M AN OCEAN GALLERY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BEACHFRONT ASSOCIATIONS. OU 438 OWNERS HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF DOING ENHANCEMENT PROGRAMS. WE REALLY APPLAUD THE EFFORTS.

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HERE IS MY ASK. IF THE APPROVAL THRESHOLD THROUGH BUTLER BEACH REACH, IT IS OUR HOPE THAT THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONS CONSIDER A CUT OFF IN BUTLER BEACH REACH O THE CONTINUOUS PLOT OWNERS WHO SUBMIT EASEMENT DOCS. THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS THROUGH THE CUT OFF REQUEST OR IS IT SOLELY TO THE DISCRETION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY? THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE THINK. I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER NOW, OBVIOUSLY AND WHAT I WILL DO IS GET WITH THE STUFF FOR THE BCC FOR THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT GROUP FOR DISASTER RECOVERY AND THAT, I ASKED FOR GUIDANCE ON WHETHER I IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO DO CUT OUT OR NOT. I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING YOUR TIME BUT I PRESENT

YOU LISTENING. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> WE ARE GOING TO HEAR AN AGENDA ITEM ON THIS TOPIC LATER

TODAY. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JUDY SPIEGEL. I LIVE AT 101 GREENVILLE LANE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. I AM IN DISTRICT THREE. WELCOME AGAIN. I AM JUST AND ALL OF THE JOB THAT YOU HAV TO DO. I'M VERY NEW TO THIS PARTY AND I'M A LITTLE ASHAMED OF THAT WITH BEING A STUDY CERTAIN AGE, I DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE THE WORKINGS OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. IT'S FASCINATING TO ME IT'S VERY EXCITING AND I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT AND MY GOAL IS TO NOT KNOW THE BIBLE, I WANT T KNOW GOD AND I WANT TO LOVE PEOPLE WITH GOD'S LOVE AND THAT IS MY GOAL EVERY DAY TO DO THAT ON JANUARY 17TH, I WAS HERE FOR THE COMMISSIONER SWEARING-IN AN AS I ENTERED THE DIES, I NOTED OUT THERE, I SIGN THAT SAID, DO THE RIGHT THING. THIS IS OUR MODEL FOR 2023 AND THAT JUST MADE MY HEART SING AND I HAD SEEN THAT, ALSO, ON COMMISSIONE ARNOLD'S FACEBOOK PAGE. THAT SAME QUOTE IS THERE, SO I WAS PRAYING ABOUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY TODAY AND I KNOW THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT BUT I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT MOTTO AND I LOVE THAT IT'S THER AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH SAFETY AN IT IS NOT YOUR GUISES MOTTO, BU I THINK IT IS WITH WATCHING WHA YOU DO. DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE AND EVEN AT THE RISK OF UNPOPULARITY OR YOU JUST DOING THE RIGHT THING AND LOVING PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE HERE FOR. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU IS THE BIBLE VERSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT SAME MOTTO AND IT'S A AWESOME TRUTH AND I THINK IN TH CULTURE THAT WE ARE IN NOW WHER PEOPLE ARE REALLY OVERWHELMED B FEAR , THERE IS SO MUCH GROWTH IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IT IS FRIGHTENING PEOPLE. THERE IS SO MUCH BAD NEWS AND PEOPLE ARE AFRAID. THE PRICES ARE GOING UP IN FLORIDA AND THE ELDERLY ARE REALLY CONCERNED AND YOU GUYS ARE IN SUCH AN AMAZING POSITION TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE TO FEEL A LITTLE SAFER AND I HONOR

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>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> I'M DOCTOR GEORGE SPIEGEL. I LIVE AT 101 GREENVILLE LANE IN ST. AUGUSTINE ALSO. YOU CAN SEE THAT SHE'S THE TALKER IN THE FAMILY. YOU WOULD THINK THAT I WOULD BE AFTER 50 YEARS IN THE COLLEGE CLASSROOM, BUT I'M NOT.

WE RECENTLY DROVE UP AND DOWN 8 A AND ROUTE 1 AND THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL, WIDE-OPEN AREA IN THIS COUNTY AND IT STRUCK ME AS WE DROVE, WHAT A HUGE AND HEAVY RESPONSIBILITY YOU MIGHT HAVE T THIS COUNTY TO WATCH THE SUSTAINABLE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT AND ONE THING THAT I USED TO SHARE IN THE COLLEGE CLASSROOM WAS, BEFORE WE TOOK A BREAK, WAS THAT YOUR MIND CANNO A GOOD DORP WHICH YOUR REAR CANNOT INDOOR. WE ARE OUT HERE

IN THESE HARD CHAIRS. >> TO YOU, SIR.

>> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS KYLE AND I LIVE AT 294 BURNER WAY IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. I COME BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING AS A YOUNG 27-YEAR-OLD FIRST-TIME HOME KNO WHERE YOUR. I KNOW THAT MY HOAS NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS EXCEPT YOU GUYS. THERE IS STORAGE THAT IS BEING BUILT RIGHT BEHIND US AND I HAVE A PETITION AND IT HAS 220 SIGNATURES FROM THE COMMUNITY O SILVERLAKE. ALTHOUGH I'M ONLY 27-YEAR-OLD, I'M HERE TO CONVEY THOSE FORCES TO THE 220 PEOPLE. I WILL READ YOU THE SINGLE PARAGRAPH FROM THAT PETITION. A TREMENDOUS EYESORE, IT WILL DEVALUE ALL OF THE PROPERTIES. ANOTHER MULTILEVEL STORAGE FACILITY IS BEING BUILT HALF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD IN A COMMERCIAL AREA, PROVIDING AMPL STORAGE FOR RESIDENCE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. IT IS .6 MILES HERE ON THE RIGHT. WITH A EASEMENT BEHIND THE AFFECTED PROPERTIES, IT LEAVES A CLEAR, DIRECT LINE OF SIGHT AT THE STORAGE FACILITY FROM OUR BEDROOMS AND BACKYARDS THE MOST PRIVATE PARTS OF OUR HOME. EVEN A PRIVACY FENCE. WE PAID EXTRA FOR THIS VIEW. WE CANNOT HIDE THE SHUTTLE THAT WOULD TOWER IN. RESIDENTS CHOSE NEIGHBORHOOD TO AVOID EYESORES AND SMART STORAGE WILL BE IN OU BACKYARDS. WE REQUEST THAT YOU RESPECTFULLY CONSIDER OUR POSITION OF CONCERN AND CHOOSE TO RELOCATE THIS FACILITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN CLEARED, WE ARE FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE. UNFORTUNATELY TH REAL ESTATE AGENT AND OUR REPRESENTATIVE WHO SOLD US THE HOUSE, TOLD US THAT THEY WILL G BEHIND OUR PROPERTIES BUT AS YO SEE RIGHT THERE, THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, IT'S IMMEDIATELY BEHIND OUR HOUSE AN IT WILL DEVALUE THE PROPERTIES AND I WILL BE RAISING MY KIDS I THE SHADOWS UNLESS YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO HELP US. I COME HUMBLY FORTH BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP AND I HOPE TO GE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING. A PARTY SHARED A LINK TO THIS PETITION AND THE DETAIL ARE READ OFF TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. PETER SCHMIDT. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. THEY ASKED ME TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AND I APOLOGIZE. I HAVE ASTHMA. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 25 YEARS. I IS A FIRST-CLASS COMMUNITY WITH WONDERFUL PEOPLE. MY KIDS WERE

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> HI BACK. ELIZABETH. I PRESENTED A PACKAGE LAST MONTH WHEN YOU HAVE THIS MEETING AND WOULD LIKE TO ARRANGE AN IN-PERSON MEETING WITH EVERYONE HERE SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET THAT I PRESENTED LAST TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT.

IT'S TOO LONG, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE INSIDE THE MACHINES. THE FACT THAT TAXPAYER MONEY WA USED TO BUY THESE IS INCORRECT. WE NEED TO HAVE TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS AND STOP THE VOTE BY MAIL.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> AT SLAVEN. I WANT TO THANK THE THREE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS THAT MET WITH TREY ALEXANDER.

THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT FROM OUR DEMOCRACY. I THINK IT WAS WRONG FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO INTERFERE WITH HIS RIGHT TO SPEAK TO YOU. GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WORK UNLESS IT LISTENS TO US, BUT YET WE HAVE A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND COUNTY ATTORNEY. MR. CONNOR HAS TOLD M AT OUR BUDGET MEETINGS TWO YEARS IN A ROW, I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, I WORK FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WHY WOULD YOU RENEW HIS CONTRACT? EARLIER, IT'S EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERED. WHAT WAS THE RUSH? COMMISSIONER JOSEPH ASKED EVER THE GOOD QUESTION, WHAT IS THE RUSH. WE NEVER DID GET AN ANSWE TO THAT QUESTION. IS HE SO QUALIFIED THAT HE SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM PTO REQUIREMENTS? BETTING REQUIREMENTS? THE REQUIREMENT TO ACTUALLY FILE A JOB APPLICATION WAY TO ACTUALLY HAVE OTHER PEOPLE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE JOB. IS HE THAT UNIQUELY NO, HE'S NOT. DEVELOPERS WANT HIM IN THERE AN YOU WERE GOING TO RENEW HIS CONTRACT EARLIER THAN IT'S KIND BUT IT BE RENEWED IN THIS AGREEMENT? THAT'S WRONG. PLEASE DON'T DO THAT. LET'S FIND OUT WHAT IS IN THE INSPECTOR GENERA REPORT IN RESPONSE TO TREY ALEXANDER'S CONCERNS ABOUT HIS ILLEGAL -- HE'S ILLEGALLY BEIN PRESSURED TO RESIGN. ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL RACES IN THIS COUNTY. WE HAVE PRESERVATION RACISM. WE HAVE EMPLOYEES BEING PRESSURED NOT TO DO THEIR JOBS UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT MODE NOT TO DESIGNATE PROJECTS. NOT TO DESIGNATE PROJECTS FOR PRESERVATION. IT'S WRONG. YOU CAN'T REWARD A WRONGDOER BY GIVING HIM A THOROUGH RENEW HIS CONTRACT. THAT'S MIND-BOGGLING.

WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT OUR FLAWED DEMOCRACY? I HOPE THE OTHER TWO OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T ME WITH HIM, MEET WITH HIM, BUT I WAS DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT NOT ONLY THAT THE THREE OF YOU MET WITH MR. ASTOR, BUT FOUR OF YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO MEET WITH

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>> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THESE OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSIONS. MY NAME IS DALE BRASSFIELD. I BECAME A RESIDENT OF FLORIDA IN AUGUST, 2017, WELL AHEAD THE COVID RUSH FROM THE NORTH TO SOUTH. I BECAME A RESIDENT OF MARCH LANDING, JULY OF 2018. I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED AND FRUSTRATED BY THE BURDENS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON, NOT ONLY THE MASTER A, BUT ON THE RESIDENCE , AS MR. SCHMIDT MENTIONED, FROM SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT DECIDED TO SUE THE COMMUNITY OVER, IN MY OPINION, A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT.

I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. I'M NOT A BUILDER, ARCHITECT, OR ENGINEER BUT WHAT I AM, FOR THE PAST NIN YEARS, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE ENTRANCE CAMES INDUSTRY AS AN EXECUTIVE GENERAL ADJUSTER AND FOR THE PAST 26 YEARS, HAVE BEEN THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF EIGHT INDEPENDENT INSURANCE ADJUSTING COMPANYAND I TRAVERSED THE UNITED STATES AND HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERY TYPE OF HOMEOWNER AN COMMERCIAL CLAIM KNOWN TO MAN.

ANYTHING FROM $500 FOOD SPOILAG CLAIMS, TO $30 MILLION HIGH-RIS CONDO WENT CLAIMS IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. HERE IS WHAT I CAN TEL YOU BASED ON THAT KNOWLEDGE. THERE ARE A COUPLE PERILS INSURED AGAINST THAT WE AS MANKIND CAN DO NOTHING. ONE IS WILDFIRES. NUMBER TWO IS FLOODING IN STORM SURGE CAUSED BY HURRICANES. I MOVED TO MARSH LANDING, FOR ONE KNOWING AND SEEING WHAT MOTHER NATURE CAN DO TO A COMMUNITY, BUT I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO AND BECAUSE I CAN. UNDERSTANDING AN ACCEPTING THAT I HAVE TO ACCEPT PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE BURDEN THAT COMES ALONG WITH LIVING IN A TROPICAL PARADISE. AGAIN, IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED ONCE THAT MARSH LANDING IS BUILT ON A BARRIER ISLAND AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHE YOU ARE ON THE WEST COAST TO CALIFORNIA OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COAST OF THE UNITED STATES OR IN THE MIDWEST LIVING ON A RIVER OR A LAKE, WHEN MOTHER NATURE REARS ITS UGLY HEAD, THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE FORCE AS A COMMUNITY TO BUILD ALL THE WA AROUND US BUT IF A CATEGORY 2, THREE, FOUR THAT, OR FIVE , IT IS NOT GOING TO MATTER. WE ARE GOING TO BE FLOODED AND WE WOUL HAVE TO ASSUME, PERSONALLY, THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE TOOK WHE WE PURCHASED THOSE HOMES IN MARSH LANDING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS BOARD. MY NAME IS EDWARD PIKE, 281 LAKESIDE CIRCLE . ALSO IN THE MARSH LANDING SUBDIVISION.

WANT TO LEND MY VOICE AND OUR SUPPORT OF THE BOARD AND MY ASK OF YOU IS SIMPLE, I THINK, AND THAT IS SIMPLY TO SUPPORT OUR BOARD AND ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED AND PROPOSED. I THINK THAT IT WORKS. AND I BEEN A RESIDENT, I LIVE ON ONE OF THESE STORM WATE RETENTION PONDS AND LAKES AND I THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE WATER LEVELS HAVE BEEN DRAWN DOWN TO THE LEVEL TO WHERE IT I NEGATIVELY IMPACTING MY PROPERT AND MY AESTHETICS OF MY VIEW. I DON'T LIVE ON THE LAKE ANYMORE.

I LIVE ON A MUD PIT AND THAT IS THE TRUTH, UNFORTUNATELY. I'VE SEEN A DECREASE IN THE NUMBER O WILDLIFE FISH, BIRDS, ET CETERA I JUST ASK YOU IN THE SUPPORT O THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA. I'M ALSO MEMBER OF WAY TWO AND IN A RECENT SURVEY, 98% OF THE RESIDENTS OF A TWO SUPPORTED RAISING THE POND LEVELS. I BELIEVE THAT I SPEAK FOR THE

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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> IT'S BEEN FOUR MONTHS SINCE OCTOBER 1820 22. AT LEAST 10 INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVED IN DISTRICT 3 WERE TRANSPARENT AND APPLIED TO THE GOVERNOR. REMEMBER, VOTERS, IN 2024, C3 WILL BE ON THE BALLOT. ALL OF VOTERS WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE TOO A COMMISSIONER FOR C3. EVEN IF THE VOTER DOES NOT LIFT IN DISTRICT 3. POLITICIANS CAN MANIPULATE . VOTERS MUST VOTE AND MUST TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND SPEAK OUT. I KNOW YOU DO EMAIL, BUT SHOWING UP GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOU. PE ARE SD VE RE PERSEVERE. ALECIA BOUTWELL, BERNIE CLARK, JUDGE, GEORGE, HANKERSON, LEBLANC, MURPHY, WOLF. 10 PEOPLE THAT IT THE RIGHT WAY AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT TODAY WE HAVE MOTTO, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. IT'S A GOOD WORD. DO THE RIGHT THING. THAT'S WHY AM UP HERE AL THE TIME ASKING THAT THE RIGHT THING BE DONE. WE DON'T AGREE TOO OFTEN. ONCE IN A WHILE WE GET A CRUMB BUT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THE SAME THING, MONEY VERSUS QUALITY OF LIFE AND WE ARE LOSING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT AFTERNOON. JAMES HENSLEY. 7330 OAKLAWN COURT. IT AFTERNOON. AT THE LAST BCC MEETING, MY PHONE WAS RINGING OFF THE HOOK FROM PEOPLE CALLIN ME WHEN ONE OF THE COMMISSIONER BUSES GOT UP AND CAUGHT US PATHOLOGICAL. I WANT TO TELL YO THAT WE ARE NOT PATHOLOGICAL PEOPLE. WE HAVE AN INVESTOR THE UNITED STATES FOR 30 YEARS THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. WE HAV TWO LAWYERS. WE HAVE TWO SURGEONS. ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE SURGEONS IN THE UNITED STATES , NEUROSURGEONS. WE ARE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE. WE HAVEN'T COME HERE OR BASH ANYBODY. WE HAVE HELD YOU GUYS HIS HAND FOR FIVE YEARS, BEG, PLEAD, AND DID EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO DO. WHENEVER CAUGHT ANYONE OUT BY NAME AND HAVE SOMEONE COME UP HERE AND SAY THAT WE ARE PATHOLOGICAL IS THE MOST SLANDEROUS AND DEFAMATION THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFETIME. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SACRED ROOM WHERE PEOPLE COME AND HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. YOU CAN SPEA YOUR MIND, RIGHT? BUT YOU CANNO BE ON PROFESSIONAL AND DEFAME PEOPLE AND YOU CANNOT SAY SLANDEROUS THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. I BROUGHT MY WHOLE SLANDEROUS FILE THAT I WAS GONNA CALL ON TODAY. I WAS GOING TO GET IN THE MUD AND SLING MUD. I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. I'VE HELD MY PROFESSIONALISM THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS. I TOOK ON MY WHOLE SUBDIVISION AND PUT MY FAMILY'S LIFE IN DANGER AND WHA THEY HAVEN'T TOLD YOU IS THAT M TIRES -- CAN YOU PLEASE?

>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE

>> MY TIRES HAVE BEEN/IN MY HOME. WE HAD TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF MY PROPERTY. TWO MEN STOOD IN FRONT OF MY WIFE, AND THERE IS POLICE REPORT, IT SAYS THAT WE CANNOT WRITE OUR BIKES ON THE STREETS. THESE PEOPLE, THEY DID THIS. ALL BECAUSE I TURNED THEM IN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR. NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, THEY WERE FOUND GUILTY FOR KEEPING THE WATER LEVELS IN THE PONDS RIGHT THERE THEY DO NOT BUILD IT RIGHT. THE DO NOT MAINTAIN IT CORRECTLY. THAT IS A FACT THAT NO ONE CAN TAKE AWAY. SECOND OF ALL, THEY KEPT THE WATER LEVELS TOO HIGH.

IT'S RIGHT THERE. THEY BROKE TH LAW. AM I GONNA GET UP HERE AND SLING MUD AND CALL PEOPLE OUT AND CALL PEOPLE NAMES? I WILL TELL YOU THIS. THIS IS MY SETTLEMENT WITH RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT. THAT THEY SAID THAT I DROPPED RIGHT BEFORE. HERE'S MY SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. IT CLEARLY STATES AND MY LAWYER IS GOING TO KILL ME FOR BRINGING I UP HERE I SETTLED WITH THE DISTRICT SO THEY CAN STORE WATE ON MY PROPERTY. THAT IS A FACT.

MY DIGNITY AND MY RESPECT WHEN TELL YOU THE TRUTH AND HENRY

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NAMES. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> IN MORNING. I LIVE AT 112 MARSH CREEK LANE. I LIVE IN MARSH LANDING SUBDIVISION. I MOVED HERE 13 YEARS AGO FROM SOUTH FLORIDA. I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF ONE ASSOCIATION AN THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ANOTHER.

I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH THIS ONE, HOWEVER I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

WHEN I MOVED IN, I WAS TOLD, ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE THAT I KNOW, THAT WHEN THE BARRIER ISLAND AND THERE MAY BE A WATE SEARCH. IT'S A POSSIBILITY. IT HADN'T HAPPENED AND MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN. THE LAKES ARE ALWAYS LOWERED TO THE POINT WHERE THE FISH ARE BASICALLY WALKING ON TOP OF THE WATER, BUT MY SON USED TO GO OU AND FISH WITH HIS FRIENDS AND IT WAS REALLY SIMPLE. YOU HAD T USE A NET. THAT'S HOW LOW THEY WERE. POINT BEING IS THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN THEY MOVED INTO THIS COMMUNITY WHAT THEY WERE MOVING INTO. TO THINK THAT A FEW PEOPLE CAN HOLD US HOSTAG AND COST US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AN INCREASE IN FEES, JUST TO SETTLE THEIR FRIVOLOUS CLAIMS, IS OBSCENE. I'M REALLY HOPING THAT THE FEW PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY SIMILAR TO OURS, YOU UNDERSTAND AND YOU MOVED IN, WHERE YOU WERE MOVING. IF YOUR HOUSE WAS BUILT AT THE LEVEL IN THE WATER CAME UP, GUESS WHAT? IT'S GOING TO GO INTO YOUR GARAGE AND IT MAY GO INTO YOUR HOUSE AND IT MAY COST MONEY. THE PEOPLE WHO DO GET FLOODED, THEIR INSURANCE PAYS THEM MONEY AND IN SOME CASES, A EXCESS OF $1 MILLION TO REPAIR THEIR HOME. WHILE WITH THAT PERSON CONTINUE TO LIVE THERE I THAT COMMUNITY IF THEY WERE SO UNHAPPY AND CREATE HAVOC? THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. PLEASE. NO

APPLAUSE. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS NADINE HUGHEY. I'M AT 175 ADELANTO AVENUE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I'M ACTUALLY READING A STATEMENT FROM ANOTHER ONE OF OUR CARE GROUP MEMBERS WHO COULDN'T ATTEND. IT STARTS OUT, I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S BCC MEETING AS I AM HAVING SURGERY THIS MORNING. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT REMARKS ABOUT POOR PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FROM HOUSING VOUCHERS MADE IN AN EARLIER BO SEE DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES THAT HAVE BEEN WIDELY PUBLICIZED IN LOCAL NORTHEAST FLORIDA MEDIA. I HAVE ASKED MY FRIEND TO READ A STATEMENT FOR ME. I LIVE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE SOUTH UNTIL APPROXIMATELY 2015 OR 16, THIS WAS AN AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MANY NURSES, TEACHERS, AND FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE THEIR HOMES IN THE SOUTH. WHILE THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS ARE HOMEOWNERS, WE HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF RENTERS. THEY RENT FROM OWNERS LIVING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAVE ONE OR TWO RENTALS TO SUPPLEMENT THE INCOME. LIKE THE REST OF SJC, MEDIAN HOUSE SALE PRICES ARE SHOOTING UP. I COMMONLY SEE TWO BED, THREE BATH HOME GOING FOR MORE THAN 400,000 AND ALL I RECALLING SEEING FOR SALE WAS 300,000. ALONGSIDE INCREASING CELL PRICES, THE COUNTY ESTIMATES ON PROPERTY VALUES HAVE SHUT UP AND OUR PROPERTY TAXES, ARE RISING TO THE MAXIMU ALLOWED. THE RENTAL PROPERTIES ARE NOT PROTECTED AND OWNERS ARE FACING HEFTY TAX BILLS. ON TOP OF THAT, HOUSEHOLD PREMIUMS HAVE SHOT UP. MY OWN HAS DOUBLE FOR MY NEW POLICY TERM FOR MARC 2023 OVER MY PRAYER YOUR POLICY TERM. WE ARE NOW SEEING RETIRED FOLKS RENTING IN THE SOUTH BEIN FORCED OUT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE FORCED TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE RENT AS THEIR OWN PROPERTY TAX AND INSURANCE EXPENSES INCREASED. IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, NEXT-DOOR BY ELDERLY PEOPLE DESPERATE TO FIN AFFORDABLE HOMES AS THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE NEW GRANT. EACH POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA GETS MANY OTHER RESPONDING ABOUT THEIR EQUALLY DIRE EMINENT SITUATION. THERE HAS BEEN ONE OF FLORIDA BORN AN LIFELONG RESIDENT WHO POSTED THAT SHE IS MOVING AS SHE CANNO AFFORD TO LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I PERSONALLY KNOW A WORKING WOMAN WHO WAS FORCED OU OF HER RENTAL, AS THE OWNER WISH TO SELL WHO ENDED UP HOMELESS LIVING IN A TENT AND SHE FOUND REALLY HARD TO FIND SOMETHING AFFORDABLE, EVEN CHECKING OUT TRAILER PARTS. SHE IS NOW LIVING IN JACKSONVILLE,

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THE INCREASING COSTS. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS RICHARD NORWOOD. I LIVE AT 3460 . THERE IS A SIDEWALK PROJECT CURRENTLY GOING ON AND I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MY THAN YOU FOR RESCHEDULING. YOU RESCHEDULE MY DECEMBER 15TH MEETINGS WITH YOU THAT WERE CANCELED BY CONTROVERSIAL METHODS AS POINTED OUT BY AT SLAVEN AT ONE OF THE PRIOR MEETINGS. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUS I HAVE NEWS ON MY COMPLAINT OF FRAUD, WHICH TOOK A GOOD PART O MY LAND AND THE NECESSARY REPARATIONS. HELD UP BECAUSE PART OF MY PROBLEM WAS THAT YOU ONTRACTOR HAD GRADED AWAY ONE OF I SURVEYS NECESSARY TO PUT I A RETAINING WALL THAT IS CRITICAL TO MY RESTORATION OF YARD. JUST THIS MORNING, AND THAT IS WHY THE IMPROMPTU SPEEC TODAY, THEY STOPPED BY WITH A BRAND-NEW BOUNDARY SURVEY FOR ME, JUST COMPLETED. GAVE THIS T ME THIS MORNING. THAT MEANS THA WE CAN NOW TAKE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO THIS PROPOSAL BY MIKE COSTELLO OF ACP, A VISION SMITH AFFILIATE, WHO DOE PROFESSIONAL RETAINING WALLS AN HAS GIVEN ME THE BEST PRICE ON ONE THAT I'VE SEEN ANYWHERE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS SEARCHING FOR THEM. IT'S BEEN MODIFIED JUST ONCE SINCE HE ISSUED IT FO $231 TO GIVE ME A TAN VERSUS A FIGHT. HOWEVER, IT IS NOT COMPLETE, AS I POINTED OUT, IN THAT IT IS NOT INCLUDED TOPSOIL AND SODDING AT THE TOP OF THE RETAINING WALL OVER THE GRAVEL FILL AND THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED. SO WITH THAT, I WANTED T BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THIS INVESTIGATION SEEMED TO HAVE STALLED. ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS IN MY MEETINGS SAID THAT HE TAKES IT VERY SERIOUSLY, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT THAT CONVINCES ME THAT IS SO. ESPECIALLY SINCE ONE OF THE ATTENDEES TO MY MEETINGS WAS LISTED AS THOMAS, WHO IS A C.O.P. AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE OF YOU BECAUSE HE'S ON THE BOARD O COMMISSIONERS. ACF HE IS A CERTIFIED FRAUD EXAMINER, WHO WELCOMED AND LOOKED FORWARD TO MEETING IN OUR MEETINGS.

HOWEVER, HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE PRESENT, NOR WAS HE BROUGHT FORWARD WHEN I ASKED HIM TO BE. SO I'M NOT SAYING A SINCERE EFFORT TO INVESTIGATE FRAUD AS MATERIAL ELEMENT IN MY REQUEST RETAINING A LAW AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU UP-TO-DATE ON THAT. I THINK IT COULD BE DONE A LOT MORE APPROPRIATELY AND WE ARE GOOD, WITH THE SURVE STAKE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE GOING TO HEAR TWO MOR SPEAKERS FOR KNOWLEDGE AND PUBLIC COMMENT AND THERE WILL B ANOTHER TO GET A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF OUR MEETING. YES, MA'AM.

>> IN MORNING. MY NAME IS CAROL HOLTZ. 703 HENSLEY STREET, HASTINGS. I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF HASTINGS IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF CARE, A COMMUNITY ADVOCATE FOR RACIAL EQUITY AND ROOF, WHO SUBMITTED THE PRIOR LETTER, IS ONE OF OUR MEMBERS AND I CONSIDER HER A FRIEND. A VERY COMPASSIONATE PERSON. I'M ALSO, IN ADDITION TO LIVING HERE, I HAVE THREE HOUSES THAT I WENT AND HASTINGS. WE HAVE KEPT OUR RENT VERY, VERY LOW. WE MET AN INCREASE THIS PAST JANUARY ON ONE OF THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2008. THAT WAS BECAUSE OF HAVING SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED ROOFING ISSUES, PESTICIDE ISSUES, INSURANCE ISSUES, AS WELL AS TAXES AND THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THOSE HOUSES ARE WHAT W CONSIDER ESSENTIAL WORKERS. WE HAVE MANAGED TO KEEP THE RENT LOW AND AS OUR TAX PERSON SAID, IT IS NOT SERVING YOU ANY GOOD. WELL IT IS SERVING AS BECAUSE WE HAVE A HEART TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE. WE ARE NOT MAKING MONEY OFF THOSE PROPERTIES. WE ARE PROVIDING THAT SERVICE BECAUSE

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THEY SHOULD >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MISS TAYLOR IS GOING TO BE OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR MORE PUBLI COMMENT AT THE END OF OUR NEXT

MEETING. >> DORIS TAYLOR. 208 LAVILLA YO WROTE. VERY QUICKLY, REGARDING THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY .

URGE YOU TO AVOID ADDING LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT. IF THERE ARE ISSUES, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, BUT ADDING ANOTHE LAYER OF GOVERNMENT PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO SERVE US WELL. NOW ANOTHER THING, A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING SOMEBODY SAID TODAY THAT THE SPOUSES OF ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS. I THINK IT IS ABSURD THAT ANYONE WOULD THINK THAT YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE SOMEHOW IN ANY COMMENT SOMEBODY THINKS ONE OF YOUR SPOUSES MADE. THAT IS OUT OF LINE. THEN, WHEN YOU CAME HERE FOR TODAY, DO I HAVE AN OVERHEAD. I FOUND THIS DOCUMENT THIS IS FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. A FEW MONTHS AGO, I CAME IN HERE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT TRAFFIC DEATHS AND I HAD TAKEN THAT OFF OF A REPORT I SAW AND I DIDN'T LOOK CLOSELY ENOUGH IN MY NUMBER WAS WRONG. THIS IS THE REAL DATA.

THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THEY HAVE LISTED. THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO DIE, BUT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, THE FOUR CATEGORIES OF TRAFFIC DEATHS, WHICH ADDS UP TO 34 PER 100,000 AND 2020. USING THE 7% FOR AN UPDATE FIGURE BECAUSE OU POPULATION HAS GROWN BY THAT MUCH. THAT WOULD BE -- WELL, THAT IS PER 100,000. WE HAVE MORE THAN 300,000 PEOPLE LIVING HERE NOW. THAT IS 102 PEOPLE THAT DIED TRAFFIC RELATED DEATH AND 2020. 116 AND 2022. NOW THA IS JUST THE DEATHS, BUT HUGE NUMBERS. DIDN'T HAVE TIME TODAY BUT THEN I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE GOALS WERE FOR THIS BODY AN IT TOOK A LOT OF DIGGING, BUT I FOUND IT. FISCAL YEAR 2022, FINANCIAL PLAN HIGHLIGHTS, ADOPTION OF NEW OMISSION OF GOALS. YOU'VE LISTED FIVE .

FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORLD-CLASS LIVING USTOMER SERVICE AND THE STRUCTURE. FUNNY. CUSTOMER SERVICE PUTTING PEOPLE FIRST. NUMBER FOUR. I THINK THAT SHOUL BE NUMBER ONE. I THINK IT SHOUL NOT JUST A PEOPLE, IT SHOULD SA LOCAL RESIDENTS. CURRENT LOCAL RESIDENTS SHOULD COME FIRST AND

I URGE YOU -- >> THANK YOU, MISS TAYLOR.

>> TO STATE THE GOALS OF THE BODY AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY

SESSION. >> MISS TAYLOR, IT ALSO IS

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>> THIS IS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. I WILL DO FOR YOU.

>> I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK THERE WITH HIM, THAT WE CA NEXT TO ME,, YOU HAVE THE ACCURATE INFORMATION.

>> ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS WRONG?

>> I'M SAYING THAT THAT IS DATE 2020 THE NUMBERS THAT YOU DECIDED IS INACCURATE. YES. HE IS OUR TRANSPORTATION MANAGER., TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FACTS. BEFORE WE TAKE A LUNCH BREAK, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FROM MARSH LANDING THEN YOU AND I WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION EARLIER THIS WEEK ABOUT WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AS ABLE TO HELP THE FOLKS IN MARSH LANDING. DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RAISE THE POND

LEVELS IN MARSH LANDING? >> THAT IS A FUNCTION, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE WAY WE ARE PERCEIVING RIGHT NOW, WE ARE AWAITING AN ENGINEERING REPORT. WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED A REPORT ABOUT THE LOCAL ORDINANCES APPLIED TO THI DEVELOPMENT, BASED ON ONE OF HI BELTS. I DO BELIEVE THAT ONCE W HAVE THAT REPORT BACK, ANY CORRECTIVE ACTIONS THAT WE DO HAVE, CAN BE HANDLED THROUGH TH CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS AUTHORITY. NOT OURS. MAYBE NOT THE QUESTIO THAT YOU ASKED, BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS OR MAYBE NONE, BUT THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS WE DO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER AND WE WILL HANDLE THOSE IF AND WHEN WE DETERMINE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

>> SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE POND LEVELS IN MARSH LANDING, COULD WE VOTE TODAY TO RAISE TH LEVELS IN THE POND?

>> I WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE AGAINST IT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO DO AND I THINK WE WOULD BE ACTING ON INCOMPLETE DATA. EVEN IF WE DID HAVE THE AUTHORITY. I WOULD WAI AND 20 ENGINEERING PEOPLE COMING. NO, I WOULDN'T.

>> MR. TAYLOR, CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHT? DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO VOTE TO RAISE THE POND LEVELS?

>> NO, COMMISSIONER. I SPOKE WITH WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THEY HAVE THESE. THEY REQUIRED THAT THERE BE AN ENGINEERING STUDY THAT MAKES TH REQUEST REASONABLE AND IF IT IS REASONABLE THERE, THEY ARE OPEN TO THE REQUEST. THEY WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW IT, OF COURSE, BUT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A REQUIREMENT, BECAUSE OF LITIGATION, TO HAVE THE MASTER ASSOCIATION NOT PUT THAT IN. THERE MAY BE LEGAL REASONS WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, BECAUSE OF THE LAWSUIT, BUT THE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IN REQUESTS TO BE ABLE TO CHANG AND RAISE THE LEVELS, BUT THE MASTER ASSOCIATION HAS NOT DONE THAT YET AND THERE MAY BE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE LAWSUIT, BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE ISSUES THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS BEEN OPEN TO THAT REQUEST SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING AND WOULD BE OKA WITH REQUESTING ANY TIME, IF THEY WILL SUBMIT A REQUEST AS THE PROPER

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