Oct 04, 2022 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

[Proclamation Recognizing October 2022, as Domestic Violence Awareness Month]

[Proclamation Recognizing October 3-9, 2022, as National 4-H Week]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MS. JULIE CALIENDO FOLKS HERE FROM

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IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, WHETHER MAKING THEIR WAHERE, READ THE

PROCLAMATION. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FLORIDA WHERE THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS CRACKED ON A DAY 4-H DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL SCIENCES EXTENSION SERVICE FOR 103 YEARS. WRITING EXPERIENCE-BASED ACQUIR

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THE CHAIRMAN. >> IS AN HONOR TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO THE FOLKS BEHIND ME, THEY DO SO MUCH IN THE COMMUNITY FOR OUR YOUTH. WITH THAT WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS -- A SERVICE ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

FOR STARTERS FOR EACH HAS BEEN PART OF MY LIFE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME I REMEMBER HOW IT ALL STARTED.

WHEN I WAS LITTLE I WAS YOUR AVERAGE GIRL WHO WANTED NOTHING MORE BUT TO RIDE HORSES. QUITE AN AMBITIOUS EIGHT-YEAR-OLD OR WAS I HAD A DREAM BOX AND EVERYTHING THE STREAM OF MY CAME TO LIFE WHEN I STARTED TAKING LESSONS.

I WAS IN LOVE WITH THE ASPECT OF WRITING AROUND.

THOSE INTRODUCED TO 4-H. AS NERVOUS AT FIRST TO OPEN UP TO SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES. I WAS ONE OF THE LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE AND I WOULD INTRODUCE RAGHU TO THIS WORLD.

MY MOM GOT INTO BEING A . HORSES ARE AT THE STORE BEFORE THE TEAM LEADERSHIP COUNCIL WE WERE COUNTY COUNCIL I WAS ALWAYS SCARED TO GO.THE BIG KIDS SCARED ME AND I WASN'T CONFIDENT IN MYSELF. THAT'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT 4-H A BOOST OF CONFIDENCE FOR COMPETITIONS AND TRAININGS.

I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TALK LIKE THIS NOW FOR WORK FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING I EVENTUALLY START TO COME OUT TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETINGS. I STARTED REALIZING IT WASN'T AS BAD AS I THOUGHT. THINGS DISCUSSED REALLY OPENED ME UP. I WAS PART OF A PROCESS OF PLANNING EVENTS. THEN AS MY CONFIDENCE GREW I STARTED RUNNING FOR OTHER POSITIONS AND WORK MY WAY UP.

BY THE SECOND YEAR I DECIDED TO GO FOR VICE PRESIDENT.

I WALKED IN, NO ONE RAN FOR PRESIDENT JOSEPH.

I DIDN'T GET THE POSITION. THEN THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SECRETARY. EVERYONE WAS LOOK TO ME I WASN'T SCARED ABOUT BEING MADE ABOUT OUR AGENT TOLD ME, THEY WOULD HELP ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

THAT IS WHEN I SAID I CAN DO IT.

AND I WOULD DO IT. I BEEN PRESIDENT OF THE GROUP EVER SINCE. THEY BUILT A REALIST CLAIM IS TAUGHT ME TO EMBRACE MYSELF AND I CAN BE THE CHANGE OTHER KIDS LIVES THE ROLE MODEL THEY LOOK UP TO.

I'M A STRONG SPEAKER THAT I'VE EVER BEEN.

THIS NOT ONLY INCLUDES ME, BUT MY FAMILY FRIENDS MAMA DISCOVERED HOW MUCH CHUCK'S FISHING AND WANTED TO GIVE KIDS

[Acceptance of Proclamations]

[APPLAUSE] >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO

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ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS? >> SO MOVE.

>> SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? PROCLAMATION EXCEPTED. BEFORE WE START THE OFFICIAL MEETING AFTER THE PROCLAMATIONS, I WANT TO CALL ON COMMISSIONER ARNOLD TO SAY SOMETHING VERY NEEDED COMMENTS AT THE TIME THAT WE ARE LIVING RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I NOTICED BEEN A VERY LONG AND TRYING EMOTIONAL WEEK FOR ALL OF US AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE TIME. I WILL TRY AND HOLD IT TOGETHER BUT FORGIVE ME, TODAY IS TOUGH. AS A SITTER SO GRATEFUL AND PROUD OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, I KNOW SIMPLY COULDN'T EVER PRAISE THEM ENOUGH.OT ONLY FOR THE INCREDIBLE JOB THEY DID OVER THE LAST WEEK DURING HURRICANE IAN, BUT BECAUSE OF THE JOB THEY DO EVERY SINGLE DAY.

KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE, KEEPING MY FAMILY SAFE, KEEPING YOUR FAMILY SAFE. ALL THE WHILE, BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES. THEY ALWAYS SHOW UP WHEN CALLED. AND THEY NEVER LET US DOWN.

BUT I HAVE LET THEM DOWN. WE ALL HAVE LET THEM DOWN.

ON APRIL 20 WE WERE A DAY TOO LATE AND IT BREAKS MY HEART AGAIN, DISSIDENT YESTERDAY, OCTOBER 3, WAS AGAIN, A DAY TOO LATE. WE ARE COUNTLESS DAYS TOO LATE.

BUT TODAY I WILL CHALLENGE US ON THE BOARD TO CHANGE THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A FEW STATISTICS.

DEPRESSION IS FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY FOR FIREFIGHTERS AND THE REST OF THE POPULATION. SUICIDE IS A LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG FIREFIGHTERS AND EMTS AND REPEATED EXPOSURE TO TRAUMA PROVIDES A DIRECT LINK TO SUICIDE RATES AMONG THEM.

THROW INTO THE MIX, A LARGE NUMBER FIRST RESPONDERS, ALMOST 20 PERCENT OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FORCE OUR VETERANS.

COMING INTO THIS FIELD WITH PRIOR TRAUMA AND PTSD, SCAMPER BAND-AID RIPPED OFF WITH EVERY CALL.

GENTLEMEN, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, MEN AND WOMEN OF FIRE RESCUE ARE IN CRISIS. I AM SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY IMPLORING YOU NOT ONLY AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, BUT AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHOSE LIFE HAS BEEN DEEPLY IMPACTED BY MENTAL HEALTH AND THE DEVASTATION OF SUICIDE.

I'M URGING US TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY, WITH AN ALLOCATION THAT WILL EQUIP THEM TO FIGHT THIS. IN HONOR OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE LOST OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS FROM MY FIRE RESCUE FAMILY, I'M ASKING YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, HELP ME PROTECT THOSE WHO PROTECT US. BECAUSE WE SIMPLY AREN'T DOING OUR JOBS IF WE ARE GIVING THEM THE TOOLS TO DO THEIRS.

THE CHIEF HAS SHARED WITH ME HANDERS ORGANIZATIONS NEEDS.

THEY REQUEST ONE FULL-TIME CHAPLAIN AT ENGINEERING.

THE ASSOCIATE EQUIPMENT FOR THIS HIGHER AND A FULL-SCALE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING TEAM. THE TOTAL FOR THE ASK IS APPROXIMATELY $500,000. I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE PROBABLY SAY WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS.

BUT MY ARGUMENT IS THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO.

I LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

>> THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN? PRACTICE COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN FOR RECOGNIZING ME.

I JUST WANT TO COMMEND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS EFFORT AND THIS IS IN THE FORM OF A MOTION I WOULD SECOND IT.

THIS IS LONG OVERDUE AND THE TIME IS NOW.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.> I WOULD SAY THIS, WE OUTFIT OUR FIVE FIRST AND FIRST RESPONDERS WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF EQUIPMENT. BUILDINGS AND THINGS TO KEEP THEM SAFE. IT SEEMS ONLY FITTING THAT WE GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH WHAT THOSE JOBS INFLICT ON THEM MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.

I HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT WITH YOUR REQUEST.

>> LET ME JUST SAY, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE MAKING, COMMISSIONER.

I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND I'LL

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I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN ITEM WE CAN TAKE UP WITHOUT HAVING AN AGENDA ITEM. I SEE THAT JESSE HAS JOINED US INTO FROM STAFF WHAT WE NEED PROCEDURALLY TO DO.

>> MR. TREVOR MAE AND I WILL DEFER LEGAL BUT I THINK FOR PURPOSE OF MOVING IT SO NOTHING IS TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD WE CAN ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT WITH A PROPOSED PROVIDER, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER FOR TO LEGAL BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO SUSPEND THE RULE AND THEN PROCEED FROM THERE.

I WILL LOOK TO LEGAL FOR THAT. >> YES, I AGREE WITH ADMINISTRATOR CONRAD. A PROPOSED MOTION SHOULD INCLUDE LANGUAGE TO SUSPEND BOARD RULE SO THAT THIS COULD BE HEARD WITHOUT BEING ON A PUBLISHED AGENDA.

AND IF A MOTION IS MADE, WE WILL NEED PUBLIC COMMENTS, LOANS ON THE MOTION AND THOSE TWO STEPS OF THE LEGAL STEPS THAT I SEE NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

>> IS THERE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE ROLE?

>> SO MOVE. >> SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR?

RULE IS SUSPENDED. >> MR. CHAIR? ONE MORE THING. AS YOU PROCEED NOW WITH THE RULE SUSPENDED MR. DUNN SAYS THE FIRE DISTRICT RESERVE FUNDS. JUST TO GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION FROM OMB IS GET READY MAKE THE MOTION.

THAT'S WHAT THE FUND WOULD COME FROM.

>> THE MOTION WOULD INCLUDE THAT IT WILL COME FROM THE FIRE DISTRICT RESERVE FUND. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I MOVED TO ALLOCATE $500,000 IN THE FIRE DISTRICT RESCUE RESERVE FUND. EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

>> SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. I WILL CALL ON VOTES SINCE WE

HAVE -- >> SIR, WE NEED PUBLIC

COMMENTS. >> PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION? PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE, I WILL CALL FOR THE VOICE VOTE.

4-0. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD COMEAU TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZE THE PROBLEM AND ADDRESSING IMMEDIATELY.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> NOW WE MOVE --

>> MR. CHAIR? >> YES.

>> IPOD IS BUT RECOMMEND AT THIS TIME THE BOARD REINSTATE

THE RULES. >> MOTION TO REINSTATE.

>> SO MOVED.> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

WE WILL TAKE A QUICK VOICE VOTE.ROLL CALL FOR VOTE] THIS PASSES 4-0 RULES ARE REINSTATED.

EVERYTHING GOOD? CLEANUP? SOMETIMES I THINK DAVE IS THE GUY BEHIND WITH THE BROOM HE HAS TO CLEAN UP AFTER US FROM TIME TO TIME BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. [LAUGHTER] NOW THAT TAKES US TO WHAT WE WILL BEGIN, THE MEETING THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS CHAIRMAN, IS TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT, NOT JUST TO YOU AND THE AUDIENCE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY OVER 300,000 ABOUT IF YOU'VE SUFFERED ANY KIND OF DAMAGE BASED ON HURRICANE IAN.

WE WILL GIVE YOU A REPORT OF WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED SO FAR.

WE WILL GIVE YOU SPECIFIC NAMES, ADDRESSES AND EMAILS OF THOSE AGENCIES, FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL, WHERE YOU CAN SEEK HELP IF YOUR PROPERTY HAS BEEN DAMAGED AND YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE IN A POSITION TO APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE FROM FEMA OR THE COUNTY IN CERTAIN INSTANCES. HUNTER WILL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW WE REACTED TO HURRICANE IAN.

WHERE THE DAMAGES ARE AT THE MOST PREVALENT AND REPORT ON SOME BEACH AREAS. AND THEN CONTACT NUMBERS.

FOLLOWING THAT WE WILL HAVE A REGULAR REPORT AND GET INFORMATION FROM THE SHERIFF AND THE FIRE CHIEF REGARDING SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN AND ARE PROBABLY STILL UNDERTAKING AS WE SPEAK. THAT'S THE PLAN BEFORE WE GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU WOULD PRESENT YOUR

INFORMATION TO US. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND

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YOU HEAR FROM THE FIRE CHIEFS, SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS WELL AS PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SPOKE ABOUT THIS MORNING. WE WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE OF HOW WE GOT TO IAN VERY QUICKLY THE LEAD UP TO IAN AND OPERATOR REPORT. AS YOU MOVE FORWARD I WANT TO STATE UP FRONT, THIS INFORMATION IS CONSIDERED PRELIMINARY. MORE DATA IS COMING IN EVERY SINGLE DAY, IT'S NOT COMPREHENSIVE ALL AT ONCE, CERTAINLY SUBJECT TO CHANGE BETWEEN YESTERDAY AND TODAY.

SO EVERYONE IS WHERE THIS THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION SUBJECT TO CHANGE. THIS IS A QUICK BACKGROUND.

EVERYONE IS HERE THROUGH IAN AND EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS BUT WANT TO WALK THROUGH THIS WENT INTO THE FORECASTED IMPACT AREA SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 25. WE REMAIN THE FORECASTED IMPACT AREA UNTIL 30 SEPTEMBER. IAN BECAME HURRICANE AT 2:00 AM MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26. GROUP TO CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE AT 7:00 AM IS A SEPTEMBER 28.

IT WAS ONE MILE AN HOUR BEFORE TENDED TO CATEGORY FIVE BEING WITH SUSTAINED WIND UPWARD HUNDRED 55 MILES AN HOUR ON THE COAST. THE COUNTIES REGISTER IS BETWEEN 5 PM SEPTEMBER 27. THE LESSONS OF 330 GAME FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 30. THE CLOSEST POINT TO TREMOR WAS 83 MILES OF THE COAST OF IPM SEPTEMBER 29 WHILE HE WAS A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE WITH 75 MILE AN HOUR WINDS.

THIS IS WHAT THEY REALIZED STORM TRUCK WAS EACH DAY.

EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WAS WATCHING THIS WITH BATED BREATH. THIS GIVES AN IDEA OF WHERE IT STARTED AND WHAT ACTUALLY FINISHED.

YOU CAN SEE MONDAY, THERE WAS THE REALIZED STORM TRUCK THAN TUESDAY THE SAME TIME THEN WEDNESDAY, AND ACTUALLY ENDED UP PAST THE WESTERN COAST OF THE EASTERN COAST ON THURSDAY.

AS MOVE ALONG NOT TALKING WITH THE OPERATIONS DURING THE STORM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE CITY PD CITY FIRE, ALL WERE ENGAGED DURING OPERATION AS COMMISSIONER ARNOLD INDICATED.

WHILE EVERYONE ELSE IS SLEEPING, OR PROTECTING FAMILIES, THEY ARE STILL RESPONDING TO CALLS.

THERE ARE STILL RESPONDING TO CALLS TO RESCUES, OVER TWO DOZEN RESCUES AT THIS TIME. THEY WILL TALK ABOUT THE TOLL IT TOOK ON THEIR AGENCY. WILL FAST-FORWARD TO THE POST IMPACT. THIS IS UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION WE HAVE, 636 HOMES WERE IMPACTED.

THESE ARE THE TYPE OF IMPACTS FROM THE PSALMS WITH ESTIMATED DAMAGE OF $37.8 MILLION, REPORTS ARE STILL COMING IN ESTIMATED DAMAGE $37.8 MILLION. AND THE FEMA OR REVIEW, AND ARE GENERALLY TWO TYPES OF ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AS INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

I WILL FOCUS ON THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IN A MINUTE.

THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO. WE'VE BEEN GIVEN FEMA HAS DECLARED ST. JOHNS COUNTY ELIGIBLE FOR INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES GET INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE FOR PURITY FOR RESIDENT OR HOMEOWNER, BECAUSE OF THE FRUITS OF GO TO DISASTER ASSISTANCE.GOV OR CALL 800-621-3362. I'LL LEAVE THIS UP FOR A MINUTE. THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE SEEKING INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE UNDER THE FEMA PROGRAM. NEXT WE WILL GET INTO THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WE HAVE BEEN DEEMED CATEGORY A AND CATEGORY B ELIGIBLE AT THIS MOMENT.

EVERYONE IS WORKING TO SECURE CATEGORY C THROUGH G FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS BUT AS IT STANDS TODAY, WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN PUBLIC ASSISTANCE FOR CATEGORY A AND B. HERE IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE IMPACT. CATEGORY A'S DEBRIS REMOVAL.

PUBLIC WORKS CONDUCTED A DEBRIS ASSESSMENT.

THE FOLLOWING SLIDE PROVIDES A METHOD DEBRIS AS A SATURDAY, THE TYPE AND LOCATION HIGH-LEVEL SURVEY THE COUNTY ETHICS EXPECTATIONS MORE DEBRIS WILL BECOME PRESENT CERTAINLY

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AGAIN, ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT DONE ON SATURDAY.

THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT STARTED YESTERDAY TO COLLECT STORM GENERATED DEBRIS. WE SECURED A CONTRACT AND MONITORING FIRM TO ADHERE TO FEMA GUIDELINES.

THE MONITORING FIRM IS IMPORTANT AND MONITORED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTORS DOING WITH THIS IS THERE TO SECURE FEMA REIMBURSEMENT. HERE IS A MAP.

THERE WERE 15 INSPECTORS WHEN UPDATED APPROXIMATELY ONE 20,000 INSPECTIONS. 11,000 CUBIC YARDS OF DEBRIS.

YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'D EXPECT, A LARGE PART ALONG THE COAST, ALONG THE RIVER AND THAT IS A HEAT MAP OF WHERE MOST OF THE DEBRIS WAS CENTERED AS OF SATURDAY.HAT INFORMATION WILL CONTINUE TO COME IN BUT AS OF LAST NIGHT THIS WAS PRETTY UP-TO-DATE. MOVING TO CATEGORY C, I REMEMBER TALK ABOUT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IS A ROADS AND BRIDGES. JANUARY 13 WILL NEED REPAIR IN MANY AREAS DUE TO WASHOUTS. THE PHOTO ON YOUR RIGHT SOME ARE WHERE THIS NEAR RACY POINT. THE SCOPE OF WORK AND CLASSES BEING DEVELOPED.OLD A1A SOME HAVE NOT SUFFERED SOME HAVEN WITHIN SOME HAVEN SOUTH.OME HAVEN NORTH NEEDS REPAIR.

THERE IS A PROPOSED PROJECT ESTIMATED COST OF THIS TIME IS $18 MILLION TO REPAIR SUMMER HAVEN NORTH.

THAT IS SEPARATE FROM SUMMER HAVEN SELF.

STAFF IS STILL EVALUATING NOT TO MAINTAIN RESIDENTIAL AXIS, THERE ARE SOME HOMEOWNERS EVEN IN THE NORTH PORTION HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING TO THEIR HOMES.

BRIDGES IN THE COUNTY TO DATE AS OF THIS MORNING THERE IS NO EFFECT TO THE BRIDGES. THAT WE ARE AWARE OF.

>>> CONTINUING ON THE COUNTY AND MAJOR FLOODING AREAS AROUND THE COAST SPECIFICALLY CORPUS POINT, NORTH BEACH LLANO AREA CRESCENT BEACH AND FLAGLER ESTATES ACCOUNTING CREWS INSTALLED PUMPS TO ASSIST IN AIR IS A CORPUS POINT AND TITLE AREAS CONTINUE TO RECEIVE FLOOD CONDITIONS DURING HIGH TIDE SPIRIT IN THE PRESENTATION, THERE ARE TWO DRONE FOOTAGE WITH CONDENSED HIM DOWN FOR MAJOR TWO MINUTES TO A MINUTE AND HALF OR TWO MINUTES EACH. IF YOU BEAR WITH ME THINGS GET TO SEE THE FOOTAGE SO RESIDENTS CAN SEE IT AND GET AN IDEA.

AS YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT DEEP CREEK IT'S A MULTIJURISDICTIONAL ISSUE THAT WE BEEN WORKING ON.

SHOW WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT.

HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO SOME RESIDENTS OUT THERE ON SATURDAY KNOW SOME OF YOU DID AS WELL.

THEY WERE VERY THANKFUL IT WASN'T ANY WORSE.

THEY WERE MOVING BACK TO THEIR LIVES AS NORMAL BUT STILL WANT TO GET THIS FOOTAGE. IF YOU COULD CLICK ON THE LINK FOR ME. FOR THE DRONE FOOTAGE.

[VIDEO] WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE AGAIN IS EAST DEEP CREEK BOULEVARD. AS HE PASSED JOSIE SOME MAILBOXES THAT ARE UNDERWATER, SOME OF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE OUT THERE. WE DROVE OUT THERE AS WELL THEIR HOMES IN THE AREA. THE HOMES ARE OKAY THEY WERE UP GUARDS COMPLETELY FLOODED SITTING ON AN ISLAND.

HE WAS LOOKING AT THE ROAD HERE IN DEEP CREEK.

WHAT YOU DON'T SEE FROM THE FOOTAGE AS MUCH OF THE WATER AT THIS POINT HAS RECEDED. IT IS NOT ALL RECEIPT IN THE AREA BUT MUCH OF IT HAS. JUST TO BE CLEAR AGAIN THIS IS JUST SOME POST OPERATIONAL IMPACT, WHAT YOU SEE IN 24 TO 40 HOURS OF THE STORM AS ARE ALL WORTHLESS NUMBER OF HIGH TIDES IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE STORM IT DIDN'T AFFECT THE AREA BUT IT DID AFFECT OTHER AREAS. JUST QUICK FOOTAGE.

AS WE GET INTO THE BUILDINGS AND EQUIPMENT OVERALL COUNTY PUBLIC FACILITIES FARED FAIRLY WELL.

THERE WAS MONEY ROOF AND ON THE BEACH.

STILL CURRENTLY CLOSED, IT HAD OVER 30 BOARDS DESTROYED TO THE STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENT BEING DONE WHICH IS VERY STANDARD

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CATEGORY F IS UTILITIES AGAIN AS WE TALK TO THESE CATEGORIES REMEMBER WE'VE NOT BEEN DECLARED FEMA ELIGIBLE FOR C 3G SO WE WERE WORKING WITH FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERS TO TRY AND SECURE THAT. CHILL DEPARTMENT HAD 20 LIFT STATIONS DAMAGED AN ESTIMATED COST OF 4 MILLION IF WE DON'T SECURE SEE THROUGH G WILL BE LOOKING AT AT LEAST $4 MILLION IN REPLACEMENT FOR THOSE LIFT STATIONS.

FLORIDA POWER & LIGHT IS CONSIDERED UTILITY.

AS YOU KNOW, THEY PRETTY QUICKLY RESTORED POWER THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THERE WERE 40,000 JUST OVER 40,000 OUTAGES AS OF TODAY WAS OF LAST NIGHT ALL THE POWER IN THE COUNTY HAD BEEN RESTORED. PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND.

I THINK THE COMMUNITY WAS THANKFUL AND THEY WERE GREAT PARTNERS IN THE VENTURE. PARKS AND RECREATION IS A BIG PIECE OF THE CATEGORY TWO AND HALF MINUTES OF FOOTAGE OF SUMMER HAVEN BEACH IN A SECOND. THIS WILL BE SOUTH FOOTAGE PRIMARILY BUT THE BOAT RAMPS AND BEACH WALKERS CONTINUE TO BE ASSESSED. AS A LESSON APPROXIMATELY 21 OF 50 WALK OVERS ARE NOT POSSIBLE, NOT REACH ANOTHER DAMAGED, REPAIRS AND ASSESSMENTS ARE BEING DONE AT THIS TIME.

PERMANENT BEACH REPAIR, REACHES EXPERIENCED LESSER VERSION OF WHAT WE SAW IN MATTHEW AND IRMA.

I WILL SAY TO THE BOARD, THAT IS BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, HE TOOK NECESSARY MEASURES IN ORDER TO SECURE THE COASTLINE.

WHILE PEOPLE MAY LOOK AND SEE THE BERM IS GONE PORTIONS ARE GONNA STAND IS GONE, THAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF ARMAMENT AND RESILIENCY TO PROTECT, HAVE THE THINGS NOT BEEN DONE HAD THE BOARD NOT TAKEN THE MEASURES AND APPROVE THAT WE MAY BE IN A VERY DIFFERENT EFFECT ALONG THE COASTLINE AND YES, LET'S CLOSE AN AVERAGE OF FIVE KEY RECORDS BUT IT DID PROTECT A LOT OF HOMES, WE SAW EARLIER WAS ZERO HOMES CONSIDERED COMPLETELY DESTROYED OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE CANNOT GET TO CURRENTLY. BUT THERE ARE NONE THAT WERE CONSIDERED COMPLETELY DESTROYED WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY, AND EFFECTIVELY ARMAMENT AND RESILIENCY EFFORTS.

SUMMER HAVEN BEACH APPEARS TO HAVE SUPPRESSED CONVENTIONAL APPROACHES TO REPAIR. THAT MEANS IS ALL OF YOU AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE AT LEAST FIVE BREACHES WE ARE AWARE OF TWO OF SIGNIFICANT SIZE. WHEN I WAS ONGOING WERE CURRENTLY TRYING TO WORK WITH RESIDENTS AND THE COUNTY TO FIX, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE EQUALLY LARGER SIZE THAT ONE IN A NUMBER OF OTHER BREACHES NORTH OF THOSE TWO.

UNLESS THE REDDISH WILL PLAY THE FOOTAGE OF SUMMER HAVEN BEACH AND THIS IS ABOUT TWO MINUTES.

IF IT WERE AN ARTIST COULD BEAR WITH PRODUCING THIS, MOVING FROM SUMMER HAVEN NORTH TO SOUTH.

YOU WILL SEE AHEAD OF YOU THE, ONE OF THE BREACHES, NEW BREACHES CAUSED LOOKS OF THE OLD BRIDGE FOR THE OLD BREACHES WAY UP THERE. THE BERM THAT WAS THERE BEFORE HE GETS THE HOMES OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GONE.

DOT HAD TO CLOSE THE ROAD. THERE IS THE FIRST BREACH, MAJOR BREACH. IT APPEARS TO BE SEVERAL HUNDRED YARDS LONG. WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE NEXT BREACH THEN TURN AROUND AND STOP IT.

AS MOVED NORTHWARD, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BREACH THAT ALL OF YOUR MOST FAMILIAR WITH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE NUMBER RESIDENCES THERE THAT ARE NOT AT THIS MOMENT THAT WERE EVEN ACCESSIBLE AT THIS TIME EITHER FROM THE NORTH OR SOUTH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, THE OTHER BREACH THAT WE BEEN WORKING ON.

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>> DIVISIONAL BREACH IN 2008 A BELIEVE, WHEN WE HAVE SEVERE

STORM? >> CORRECT.

AND 16. THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU SAW IS A NEW BREACH OF LOOKS SIMILAR TO THIS.

THAT'S WHY POINTED OUT THE DISTINCTION BECAUSE IT'S ALSO EXTREMELY LARGE. THANK YOU.

SO, FOR SECOND CERTAINLY, MR. -- IS HERE AND ENJOYS HERE, MR. CALDWELL, EVERYONE IS HER ANSWER QUESTIONS BULIMIC WITHIN THE OPERATIONS. REPUBLIC SERVICE AND WASTE MANAGEMENT STARTED BACK REGULAR HOUSEHOLD WASTE YESTERDAY.

I WANT TO POINT OUT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS RESIDENTS CAN SUBMIT SERVICE REQUEST FOR DOWN TREES, DRAINAGE ISSUES AND WHAT IMPACT ON OUR PRIDE SYSTEM IS A WEBSITE OR CONTACT PUBLIC WORKS 904-209-0266. THE ENGINEER DIVISION CONTINUES TO DO PRE-AND POST ASSESSMENTS IN THE COUNTY WILL CONTINUE TO

WORK WITH PARTNERS. >> ECONOMIC FILM IMPACT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, BUSINESSES TOURISM INDUSTRY WAS SHUT DOWN FOR MULTIPLE DAYS. DAMAGES FROM FLOOD, WIND AND CHEERFUL. I WOULD HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR BUSINESSES. IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHERE TO GO THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN GO TO GET ASSISTANCE FOR FEMA.

FLORIDA DISASTER.BIZ WILL PROVIDE US THE PUBLIC IT'S BEEN PUT, WILL PUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND CONTINUE TO SHARE WITH THE CHAMBER ENSURE THE RESOURCE BUT ANOTHER CHANCE FOR BUSINESSES.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS. YOU CAN SEE THE EMBASSY SUITES, ALEXA PAINT AND BODY SHOP AND THE PONTEVEDRA INN AND CLUB.

HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, FIP ALL THE CHILDREN IN SUPERVISION HAVE BEEN SAFELY ACCOUNTED FOR. THE CONTINUUM OF CARE SENSE STAFF TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER START OCTOBER 1 TO PROVIDE RESOURCES. AGAIN THE PICTURE THE BREACH, OLD A1A ROAD THEM AND YOU CAN SEE ST. JOHNS RIVER THESE ARE A FEW PHOTOGRAPHS. RESIDENTIAL FLOODING, REALLY CONCLUSIVE PRESENTATION, THERE IS NO MOTION, NOTHING THE BOARD HAS TO DO THIS PURELY INFORMATIONAL, WHILE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WANT TO THANK EVERYONE INVOLVED.

OMMISSIONERS, YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS WAS A FOCUS ON THE POST IMPACT BUT A HUGE OPERATION BETWEEN PUBLIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, HUNDREDS OF STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS AND THEIR ANSWERING PHONE CALLS THROUGHOUT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT RESPONDING. A BIG KUDOS AND THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED AND WILLING TO SERVE AND STEP UP POST IMPACT,

WE ARE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. >> EVEN THOUGH THIS IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY IS A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ROOM WATCHING ON GOVERNMENT TV WERE ABLE TO GET THE CONTACT NUMBERS FOR ASSISTANCE, BE IT BUSINESS, INDIVIDUAL, OR OTHER.

IN THE MEANTIME, BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY AN INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION, WE NORMALLY WOULDN'T TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BUT THERE MAY BE SEVERAL HERE CAME TO SPEAK.

SO I AM COMPELLED MR. GEMMA, I LIKE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD OR EXPERIENCED DAMAGE AND LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF THE COMMISSION AGREES. AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO CALL THEM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THEIR SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCE.F YOU SO DESIRE. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? YES? GOOD MORNING.

WEST MORNING MY NAME IS.

BEEN SAID EXCEPT FOR ONE THING. WE STILL DON'T HAVE POWER.

I KNOW THAT IS NOT A COUNTY THING, IT IS A FLATTER POWER AND LIGHT.E HAVE NO ACCESS TO OUR HOMES WHICH COUNTY STAFF KNOWS. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERWATCH IS IN THE RIVER BECAUSE OF THE DANGERS THAT OLD A1A, NEW A1A AND SUMMER ISLAND, THE DEGREE OF DIFFERENT LEVELS

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ANY OTHER MEMBER FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE YOU MAY WANT TO SHARE INFORMATION. THAT COMPLETES HUNTER'S REPORT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HUNTER THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

I HOPE PEOPLE WATCHING LOGIN INFORMATION AND ARE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH RECOVERY AND THEY CAN ALWAYS CALL THE OFFICE, OUR OFFICES TO GET MORE INFORMATION OR MORE CLARITY.

NOW I LIKE TO START THE PUBLIC SAFETY REPORT.

IT DIRECTLY TIES INTO THE LAST REPORT.

CHIEF, YOU WILL HAVE HAD A PRETTY BUSY WEEK.

>> BEFORE I GET STARTED, I LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE ACTION HE TOOK EARLIER IN THE MEETING, IT IS BIG FOR THE FIRE RESCUE FAMILY AND WE APPRECIATE IT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID, A COUPLE THINGS DIFFERENT THIS YEAR AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS THAT I LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO BUT THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST STORM WE FORMED A COMBINED MANAGEMENT TEAM WITH PARTNERS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND IN THE STORM. THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. SEVERAL OF YOU VISITED THE EEOC AS HECTIC AS IT WAS. THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THE EVACUATION AND WHAT GOES INTO MAKE THE DECISION. A BIG THANK YOU TO THE FIRE RESCUE PERSONNEL. REACTIVATE ALL PERSONNEL WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AT 2:00 AND THEY ANSWERED.

THEY SHUT UP AND STAYED UNTIL SOMETIME FRIDAY AND RESPONDED TO THE CALLS. FROM WAS UNTIL SOMETIME FRIDAY, WE HAD OVER 800 RUNS IN THOSE TWO DAYS.

IN 26 HIGH WATER RESCUES ALL WERE IN EVACUATION AREAS.

AS PART OF MY REPORT THIS MORNING, THERE WERE I THINK 19 DEAN TO GIVE YOU IN THE PUBLIC AND FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OF WHAT IS IT LIKE GOING TO THE HIGH WATER.

THERE WAS A JOINT EFFORT BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS MAGNITUDE RESCUES AND THE OTHER STORMS. THERE ARE REASONS WE ORDERED EVACUATION AND I THINK HE WOULD EXPLAIN SOME TO YOU.

IN ANSWER QUESTIONS. IF YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD MORNING, CHIEF. GOOD MORNING COMMISSION, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

AS USUAL, SERVE THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BRIEF RESPONSE AND HOW WE DO THINGS BUT WE PRE-STAGE EQUIPMENT OF ALL PLANNING EFFORTS IN PLACE. IT WAS A VERY BUSY THURSDAY.

I WILL SAVE OUR FOLKS ALSO RECALLED ALL OF OUR PERSONNEL AND YES, CHIEF, THOSE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.

A LOT OF CALLS CAME FROM SAINT AUGUSTINE THAT SHOULD'VE HAPPENED SINCE ALL OF THEM WERE IN EVACUATION ZONES.

I WILL TELL YOU THURSDAY MORNING, THIS WAS LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF A STORE FOR US. FPL HAS DONE A REMARKABLE JOB OF PARDONING THE INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE HURRICANE MATTHEW HIT.

AND IT SHOWED BECAUSE WE HAVE VERY FEW POWER OUTAGES, WHICH COMPOUNDS A LOT OF PROBLEMS WHEN WATER STARTS RISING DOWNTOWN. SO AT ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK ON THURSDAY MARCH THINGS REALLY STARTED TO GET OUT OF CONTROL.

WE WERE TRYING TO DISPATCH STRUCTURE FIRES ALL WERE IN AREAS WHERE OUR OPERAS COULD NOT REACH.

CREWS WERE WEEDING THROUGH WASTE DEEP WATER AND FULL GEAR TRYING TO GET TO HOMES. ONLY THREE OR FOUR FIREFIGHTERS WERE GOING BECAUSE WE COULDN'T COMMIT RESOURCES TO IT.

DOZENS OF FIRE ALARMS GOING OFF AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE OF POWER SURGES IN ORDER GETTING INTO SYSTEMS. AND A LONG LIST OF FOLKS WAITING FOR US TO MAKE THEIR WAY TO THEM. AT ONE POINT WE HAD THREE HIGH WATER VEHICLES, TWO SHALLOW WATER BOATS SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WE WERE RAPIDLY OVERWHELMED.

I GOT A PHONE, REACH OUT TO THE CHIEF, I THINK MY EXACT WORDS WERE MAN I'M DROWNING AND NEED HELP.

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WE WERE ABLE TO QUICKLY PIVOT AND SHIFT HOW WE WERE ALLOCATING RESOURCES AND STARTED STACKING CALLS AND PRIORITIZING WHO NEEDED TO BE RESCUED IN MATTHEW WORMER, WAS ADJUSTABLE FIVE FOR THE LOST HIS LEG DUE TO AN INFECTION FROM WADING IN WATERS DUE TO RESCUES.

THERE'S ALL SORT OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, SEWAGE LEAKS.

AT ONE POINT THE FRONT OF THE MAIN FIRE STATION DOWNTOWN WAS COMPLETELY UNDERWATER. WE COULD ONLY ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING THROUGH THE RAMP ON US1.AND I FILLED THE FACEBOOK VIDEO THAT AFTERNOON WITH THE NIGHTTIME SURGE IN THE WATER REEKED OF FUEL. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WAITING IN IT SO IT IS NOT A SITUATION THAT I WANT TO PUT MY PERSONNEL IN. I KNOW IT IS NOT SITUATION THE CHIEF WOULD LIKE TO PUT HIS PERSONNEL IN.

BUT I DO WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR HIS SUPPORT, THE COMMISSION FOR THIS REPORT. MR. CONRAD, THE SHERIFF, I DO WANT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR AMAZING DISPATCHERS.

I KNOW HOW BUSY THEY WERE DURING THAT SPAN.

MR. -- AND KELLY FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

AND OUR COMMUNITIES GOT A LONG ROAD OF HEALING AND RECOVERY AHEAD OF THEM. WHILE THE WINDS HAVE SUBSIDED, WITH HUNDREDS OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE DISPLACED AND ARGUABLY THE WORST TIME EVER. WE HAVE ONGOING HOUSING CRISIS ISSUES AND SHORTAGES, THEY ARE NOT PLACES FOR THEM TO GO.

THEY'RE TRYING TO REBUILD HOMES WITH A CRIPPLED SUPPLY CHAIN.

THE WORST INFLATION 40 YEARS. THIS IS A VERY LONG WORD FOR RECOVERY FOR THEM. REALLY -- RESILIENCY SHOULD BE ON OUR MINDS. WE HAVE THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN THAT A FLOODED NOW FOUR AND FIVE TIMES IN THE LAST YEARS.

THINGS ARE CHANGING WE ARE SEEING THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY MORE VULNERABLE TO IT BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE AGE OF THE HOMES IN DOWNTOWN.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HERE TO INCREASE RESILIENCY COUNTYWIDE. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT UNLESS

YOUR QUESTIONS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK. WHEN PEOPLE DO NOT EVACUATE, THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS A MANDATORY EVACUATION, THEY ARE NOT JUST PUTTING THEMSELVES AT RISK, THEY PUTTING YOUR STAFF AT RISK AND I DON'T KNO IF THEY FULLY APPRECIATE THAT.

>> IS NOT JUST THE STAFF IS EQUIPMENT.

TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO MAKE WAR EFFECTIVE RESCUE AND A PIECE OF FRONTLINE APPARATUS.

BUT I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT BY NOW, MOST OF YOU SEEN THE FOOTAGE OF SOUTHWEST FLORIDA AND THE FLOOD FIRE STATION.

RIGHT? JUST IN A SNAPSHOT, THE LEAD TIME TO GET AN AERIAL TRUCK RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT TWO YEARS.

THERE ARE ABOUT $1.4 MILLION. RIGHT? SO, WHEN MEDICAL MR. PEREZ WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SHORT-TERM HINDRANCE IN OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND.

WE'RE TALKING, THIS COULD AFFECT PUBLIC SAFETY FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF

AVAILABLE FIRETRUCKS. >> YES I AGREE, OUR EQUIPMENT AND PERSONNEL AND GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, IT IS A REAL CHALLENGE.

>> 365 DAYS A YEAR YOU RUN INTO SITUATIONS.

WHAT TROUBLED EVENTS THAT WE JUST HAD YOUR SAVING PEOPLE IN CALL, YOU DON'T STOP TO THINK WAS DANGEROUS, YOU JUST GO SO

THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK

YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF SHERIFF HARDWICK.

YOU SEE THE PICTURES AND HEARD THE STORIES BUT CRIME DOESN'T STOP EITHER. DURING THE STORM, WE HAD 1000 CALLS FOR SERVICE, 500 OF THOSE WERE RELATED TO STORM DAMAGE.

BUT CRIME CONTINUED. WE HAD OUR FOLKS OUT ON THE STREET, THEY WERE READY AND POISED TO RESPOND, NO BREAK IN SERVICE, BUT CRIME TO CONTINUE. WE HAD A SHEETING DURING THIS EVENT, ONE OF OUR DEPUTIES AND I THINK SOME OF THE STAFF WAS PARTICIPATING IN THAT, IT CONTINUES TO MOVE ON.ND WE CONTINUE TO MOVE ON. WE STAND READY TO REACT TO THE NEXT ROOM THAT MAY COME. THE HURRICANE SEASON IS NOT OVER. BUT WITH HURRICANE COMING IN THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR THEY CREATE SOME POSSIBLE CHALLENGES

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THAT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS FOR US. THE ABILITY TO PUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE WITH THE RIGHT MISSIONS, WORKING DAY AND NIGHT TOGETHER THERE BROTHERS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, MADE A HUGE IMPACT.

BUT THE STORM IS NOT OVER. FOR US.

WE HAVE TELL COMMUNICATORS DOWN SOUTH IN NORTHPORT HELPING NORTHPORT PD WITH DISPATCH AS WE SPEAK.

[Clerk of Court's Report]

QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS? I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE SUCH A GREAT TEAM OF FIRST RESPONDERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COUNTY STAFF THAT I'M EXTREMELY APPRECIATIVE OF, GREAT JOB.

>> THANK YOU SIR. OUR MEN AND WOMEN ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH

PRIDE. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS OUR CLERK OF COURT, MR. PATTY.

>> I JUST WANT TO DO AN UPDATE PENDING YOUR REQUEST.

>> GO AHEAD. >> LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING AS CONSTITUENT AND RESIDENT OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, THANK YOU ALL AND EVERYONE SO MUCH FOR FIRE RESCUE AND ALSO THE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. I'M SO PART OF THE GOVERNMENT WE HAVE HERE AND LEADERSHIP WE HAVE FROM TO UPDATE, OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC POLICY MANAGEMENT.

THE CLERKS OFFICE IS CHARGED BY FLORIDA STATUTE WITH ASSISTING THE SECOND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INJUNCTIONS OR WHAT IS INFORMALLY NOTICED RESTRAINING ORDERS FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

OUR OFFICE OFFERS 24/7 PROCESSING WITH SUPPORT OF THE COURTHOUSE DURING STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS OR THE COUNTY JAIL WITH AFTER-HOURS ASSISTANCE FROM UNCLE CLARK.

OCTOBER 3 REPROCESSED 276 INJUNCTIONS FOR THE YEAR, WHICH THE PIECE FOR STYLUS FILINGS AND LAST YEAR.

THE FOR SERVICE AVAILABLE AT NO COST AND NOT REIMBURSED BY THE STATE.HE FUNDING GAP WHICH WE ARE SEEKING TO FILL.

THE SUPPORT TO RESIDENTS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT ENDURING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN US, THE JUDICIARY SHOWS OFFICE AND BAKER VISITED HAS AN OFFICE ADJACENT TO THE INJUNCTION CLERK THAT PROVIDES AN ON THE SPOT SUPPORT FOR THOSE IN NEED.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO QUICKLY SHOW THAT WE ROLLED OUT OUR AWARD-WINNING POPULAR FINANCIAL REPORT KNOWN AS THE TAXPAYERS GOT TO COUNTY FURNACES FISCAL YEAR 2012 THIS REPORT PROVIDES INFORMATION FROM THE 2021 AUDIT SUMMARIZED AND HIGHLIGHT ABOUT COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND HOW THEY INVESTED AND SPENT.

AS YOU MAY RESTAIN THIS IS INCLUDING MEETING PACKETS AND

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

CHAIRMAN, THAT'S MY REPORT PENDING ANY QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU BRANDON.

GOOD REPORT. THAT TAKES US NOW TO OUR AGENDA WHICH WE START ALWAYS WITH CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> NONE MR. CHAIRMAN. >> COMMISSIONERS?

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

>> NONE. >> I HAVE NOT.

OTHER ANY PUBLIC COMMENON THE CONSENT AGENDA TBEFORE WE VOTE?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT, SENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION?

[1. Public Hearing * PUD 2022-08 Ferber SR 16]

>> MOVED TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> MOTION. .

>> SECOND. >> VOICE VOTE AGAIN OMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

AGENDA IS APPROVED WITH NO AMENDMENTS.

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ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS,

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> NONE.

>> MR. WHITEHURST. >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?> NONE.

>> I HAVE NONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA WITH NO AMENDMENTS?

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND.

AGENDA IS APPROVED AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ARE WE GOOD? >> THIS IS QUASIJUDICIAL ITEM.

IF WE CAN GET EX PARTE DISCLOSURES.

>> ITEM 1. QUASIJUDICIAL ITEM. LET'S DO OUR EX PARTE DISCLOSURES. WE WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER

ARNOLD. >> THINK IT WAS THE CHAIRMAN.

THERE IS A SEPTEMBER 22, 2022 APPROXIMATELY 12:30 PM, DISCUSS SCOPE, TRAFFIC IMPACT, DENSITY, BUILDING HEIGHT, GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT. WAIT A FOLLOW-UP MEETING OCTOBER 3 APPROXIMATELY 11:30 MS. SMITH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF, AS I HAD A FULL PLACE AFTERNOON WITH -- TO ADDRESS

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.> GOES A SEPTEMBER 22 ONE PMI MET WITH LINDSAY -- AND THE APPLICANT AND OUR STAFF HERE AT THE COUNTY WILL DISCUSS THE SAME ITEMS COMMISSIONER ARNOLD DISCUSSED. WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS PRESIDENTIAL ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT.

HAD ANOTHER MEETING -- >> HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY.

>> ON ITEM 1, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE I HAD A MEETING THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22 WITH LINDSAY AND EVERY SMITH AND STAFF, TO DISCUSS THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE AND COMPATIBILITY ISSUE AT THAT LOCATION, THAT COMPLETES MY EX PARTE. WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE PREPARED

TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS GOOD MORNING. WITH ME TODAY OBVIOUSLY IS LINDSAY HAGER, AND WILL INTRODUCE OUR OTHER CAST MEMBERS IF YOU WILL. LET THEM INTO LITTLE -- WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A LITTLE SENSE OF HUMOR AFTER THE LAST WEEK.

WITH US TODAY FROM THE FERBER COMPANY, WHICH IS A ST. JOHN'S COUNTY-BASED COMPANY IN PONTE VEDRA, WE HAVE TOM LUNDY, MICHAEL FRALEY AND STEWART FERBER.

ALSO FROM -- WITH US TODAY THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, THOMAS HATCHER, WHO IS HERE TO PROVIDE WHATEVER TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WE NEED TO HAVE FROM HIM ON THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SIDE.

JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND FOR FERBER IT IS A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE FOURTH GENERATION WITH THE COMPANY FOUNDED IN IN 1907.

PONTE VEDRA, ST. PETE, -- ATLANTA AND NEW JERSEY.

AS A VERY EXPERIENCED DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IN BOTH MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL, THEY OBVIOUSLY DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE PUTTING PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT.

SOME OF THE PROPERTY WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY IS ALREADY OWNED BY THE FERBER COMPANY. THEY VOTED FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS.

OTHER PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO CONTRACT PURCHASES.

TO GIVE EVERYBODY A BACKGROUND ORIENTED, THE PROPERTY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SINCE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS FOR MILE ROAD, THIS IS STATE ROAD 16, A FOUR LANE SEGMENT AND THEN YOU SEE, THIS IS EAST OF I-95. AT FOUR MILE IN THE FUTURE STATE ROAD 312 AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE AREA IS OWNED BY FLORIDA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION.

JIMMY IN A LITTLE BIT, THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS MIXED-USE DISTRICT LIKE SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH AND EAST.

THE MIXED DISTRICT AC-- MIXED-U DISTRICT -- PROPERTIES RUN INTO THE SOUTH ARE RESIDENTIAL C IN NATURE.

IT ALLOWS GENERAL CONVERSATIONS.

THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE WHEN ASKING FOR ANY LAND-USE CHANGE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SURROUNDING.

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YOU RECENTLY APPROVED THE ARLINGTON PUD WHICH IS LOCATED HERE AGAIN THE MIXED-USE DISTRICT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THAT INCLUDES 240 YOUNES OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT OF 55 FEET. ZOOMING IN, A LITTLE BIT CLOSER IT IS 33 ACRES LOCATED INTO THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE THIS IS A FOUR-LANE SECTION OF STATE ROAD 16 IN THE MIXED-USE CORRIDOR. THIS IS PERFECT FOR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING VERY CLOSE TO OF COURSE, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.HESE ARE NUMBER BUSINESSES FLAGLER COLLEGE, OTHER USES IN DOWNTOWN AND DESPERATELY NEED ALL THE FAMILY HOUSING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND STUDENTS.

ALSO, YOU WILL NOTE ON THIS MAP HERE THAT YOU SEE THE TRANSIT ROUTES. FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, THERE IS ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET PEOPLE O AND FROM WORK AND FROM WORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WITH RESPECT TO THE ZONING FOR RECOUNT MONEY HAS ON A LOT OF THIS PROPERTY THE STATE ROAD 312 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

AND YOU SEE THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY FERBER AND THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE DIOCESE OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, ALSO OWNED PUD ALREADY WITH THIS KIND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USE. IT IS APPROVED FOR 95,000 FEET SHOPPING SPACE. THIS WOULD GENERATE 296 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS EXTRA. FROM THE DIOCESE OF SAINT OLSON ALSO INTEGRATE WITH THIS CUT OUT OF COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USE, IT IS APPROVED FOR 95,000 SQUARE FEET OF SHOPPING CENTER SPACE. AND THAT EXISTING APPROVED USE, AND EXPIRED PUD WOULD GENERATE 296 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS EXTERNAL TO THE PROJECT.ND A NONRESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE PROPERTY AS IT IS TODAY, WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY ROAD IMPACT FEES BUT NOT PROPORTIONATE SHARE.

SO OF COURSE, THEY SAID ORDINANCE 2018 THIS IS THIS PORTION HERE. IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PUD AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC A PUD, THIS IS TEXT THAT GIVES YOU PARAMETERS AND THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO THAT IS THE MAP THAT SHOWS YOU THE PROJECT.

IN THE PUD TEXT AS IT EXISTS TODAY, INCLUDES THE ABILITY TO DO 405 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, AND 95,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. THAT WAS NOT THOUGHT ABOUT BY THE TEAM AND WE APOLOGIZE AND WERE TALKING TO RESIDENTS AND COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE PROJECT SO WE WILL SAY ON THE RECORD TODAY, THAT WE WILL CLARIFY THE TEXT TO SAY THAT IT WILL EITHER BE 405 MULTIFAMILY UNITS OR 95,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF THAT HAVE THE SAME INVESTOR TRAFFIC TRIPS BUT NOT ALL OF THE ABOVE IN THE SAME PROPERTY. WE KNOW ALL OF THOSE USES THAT NOT ALL THOSE WILL PHYSICALLY FIT IN THE PROPERTY BUT WE NEED TO MAKE THE CLARIFICATION THAT WE WILL DO SO FOLLOWING THE MEETING. WE KNOW THE ACCESS TO THE SITE IS OFF STATEMENT 16 WHICH AGAIN, IS A FOUR-LANE ROAD IN THE AREA. IT IS ADJACENT TO THE STATE ROAD 312 RIGHT-OF-WAY, OBVIOUSLY, 312 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION DOWN NEAR STATE ROAD 312 WERE INTERSECTS AT 207 NOW. IT WILL BE A COUPLE OF YEARS, A NUMBER OF YEARS PROBABLY BEFORE 312 IS BUILT BUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS THERE IT WILL REMAIN AS OPEN SPACE STATE UNTIL THE RIGHT IS CONSTRUCTED BY DOT.

AGAIN GOING TO THE REGIONAL CONTEXT MIGHT BE SEE THE SITE AGAIN AT THE CORNER, IS SURROUNDED BY FOUR MILE ROAD.

STATE ROAD 16, YOUR COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT SIX ON THAT CORNER THERE AND THEN, STATE ROAD 212 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THERE IS NO OTHER USE OTHER THAN THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT AND

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YOU ALSO SEE THE TRANSIT ROUTES ON THE MAP AND GENERAL ROADWAY NETWORKS. YOU ALSO SEE WHERE THE ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL SITES AS WELL AS CONDOMINIUMS APARTMENTS AND OTHER TOWNHOMES.

I WILL CALL THE METROPOLITAN SAINT AUGUSTINE AREA.

THEN WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING TO DANTES IN AUGUST AND IS VERY WELL LOCATED. THOSE OF YOU THAT LIVE THERE KNOW THIS. THIS IS AN IDEAL ROUTE TO GET TO SAINT AUGUSTINE AND THE VICINITY DOWNTOWN.

IN EVERY EXPEDITED MANNER. IT DOES SHOW YOU THIS EXISTING COQUINA PIT WHICH IS A MAN-MADE PIT ON THE EAST SIDE.

HE PROCEEDED DOT RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR 312 THIS IS A POND ASSOCIATED WITH THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WE SEE THE CUT OUT THERE YOU CAN SEE THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE A COMPENSATORY STORAGE POND AS WELL AS STORMWATER DRAINAGE. THOSE ARE CHARACTERISTICS THERE'S 20 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG FOR MORE ROAD.

THAT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE COUNTY WITHOUT ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS. THERE IS A SETBACK FOR THE PROPERTY FROM STATE ROAD 16 AND FORMAL ROAD.

AGAIN IT WILL BE EITHER 405 MULTIFAMILY USE OR COMMUNITY RELATED NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL, OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF.

FOR THE EXISTING PUD ON THE SITE.

IT IS AGAIN, 12.3 UNITS AT THE 405 AND THIS GIVES YOU THE BUILDING HEIGHT IF THERE ARE TOWNHOMES THAT THERE WILL BE 35 FEET COMMERCIAL WILL BE 40 FEET IN HEIGHT AND APARTMENTS WILL BE 65 FEET IN HEIGHT OR 60 FEET IN HEIGHT, I'M SORRY.

JUST BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING SITE CONSTRAINTS WITH THIS NEED TO PROVIDE COMPENSATORY AND DRAINAGE ON THE PROPERTY.

GOING BACK TO THE FERBER COMPANY, YOU CAN SEE THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR TWO YEARS WILL REMEMBER -- CROSSING IF YOU DRIVE BY ON A RACETRACK ROAD ON ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY YOU SEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

IT IS THE SAME CONCEPT OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS TIED WITH COMMERCIAL AND UNDERDEVELOPMENT NOW.

IT'S TURNED OUT TO BE NICE PART OF SECRECY THE QUALITY THAT THE FERBER COMPANY CONSTRUCTS AND DEVELOPS TWO.

THAT BEING SAID I WILL TURN OVER TO LINDSAY TO DO HER

THING. >> FOR THE RECORD LINDSAY -- ELLA WALKED THROUGH A SERIES OF MAPS SETTING UP THE UNIQUE SITE CONDITIONS AND ONE OF THOSE BEING THE REGULATORY MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP. THE MAP YOU SEE HERE LITERALLY, WE ADDED COLOR TO BRING IT TO LIFE.

YOU CAN START TO SEE SOME EXISTING SITE CONDITIONS, STARTING WITH THE EXTERNAL WORD WINDOW.

AGAIN, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE ARE LAYERED AND WHAT WOULD BE THE FUTURE 312 EXTENSION RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT DESIGN FOR THE ROADWAY AS WELL AS HOW WOULD CONNECT HERE WITH FOUR MILE AT DESIGN CONCEPT BEING A FLYOVER OVER THE EXTENSION FOR 312. THIS WOULD BE FUTURE SIGNAL AS IT INTERSECTS WITH THERE WERE 16 YOU CAN SEE THE CONNECTION TO EXISTING MEDIANS AND HOW WE PLAN FOR OUR ACCESS POINTS TO STATE ROAD 16 AND PROVIDED FOR THE AUXILIARY TURNING INTO THE RIGHT AND RIGHT OUT AND PROVIDING A LEFT TURN IN.

THAT IS CONTEXTUALLY WHAT WE SEE AS FAR AS THAT 312 EXTENSION. THE DIMENSIONS THAT WE SEE IN THIS MAP SHOWS AT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE SMALLEST POINT AT 250 PETE AND AT THE LONGEST POINT FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OVER TO WHAT WOULD BE THE POND ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ROADWAY, IMPROVEMENT WOULD BE 475 FEET.

YOU HAVE A NATURAL MEMORY LEAK WILL BE STORMWATER ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXTENSION FOR 312. THIS IS SOME OF THE DESIGN COMPONENT THAT WE HAVE ADDED IN TWO SHOW WITH CONTEXT THE TRACE AND HAGGLE ALONG THE STATE ROAD 312.

ELLEN CALLED EFFORTS WILL BE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENT FOR A 50 FOOT RESIDENTIAL BUILDING SETBACK.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE LIME GREEN COLOR BORDERED ON THE PROPERTY. YOU ALSO SEE WHERE WE HAVE OUR STORMWATER POND THAT WILL HANDLE DRAINAGE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS COMPENSATORY STORAGE.

THOSE PONDS ARE SEPARATE AND THIS IS THE AREA WE SEE WITHIN THIS ZONE BETWEEN THE TWO PONDS, IS AN EASEMENT TO THE

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THE BOX THAT YOU SEE HERE IN THIS AREA WILL NOW ACTIVATE TO SHOW REALLY WHAT WILL BE, FIRST THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO GIVE US CONTEXT IF YOU'RE STANDING WITHIN MISSION TRACE AND LOOKING TO THE WEST WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED BETWEEN THE 312 RIGHT-OF-WAY THE 250 FEET OF FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY AND WOULD BE REDUCED BUILDING SETBACK BUILDING HEIGHT OF 50 FEET ALONG THE BUILDINGS ALONG ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THAT GIVES US CONTEXT AND IT PROVES THAT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THE IMMEDIATE IMPACT OR SEPARATION, FROM A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TRANSITIONED WITH A MAJOR ROADWAY AND THEN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THAT YOU SEE A REDUCED BUILDING HEIGHT.

HERE, WE CREATED SOME WATERCOLOR RENDERINGS OF THE COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC, TO SEE HOW WE BRING TO LIGHT WHAT WOULD BE APARTMENTS AND MIXED-USE VOTE WOULD HAVE CLUBHOUSE FACILITIES AND LONG STATE ROUTE 16 AND THE LANDSCAPING WOULD HAVE ONLY AREA WITH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE AND THIS IS A CONCEPT FORM ARRIVED SIGNAGE IN LANDSCAPING AND 16 YOU CAN SEE THE CLUBHOUSE FACILITY, AS YOU ENTERED TO THE PROJECT SITE. OUR PUD DOES INCLUDE THREE WAIVERS WITHIN THE REQUEST, ONE THAT YOU'VE SEEN A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, REALLY THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THEY SAW HAS ALL THE RECIPES FOR THE DESIGN COMPONENTS, NOR EXTERNAL ACCESS, STORAGE, STORMWATER PONDS AND OTHER PORTIONS, THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN ALLOWS US TO MOVE GENERAL FOOTPRINTS FOR THE TYPES OF USES AND COMPLIANCE AS WE REVIEW WITH YOUR STAFF.

INCLUDE IN THE WAIVER LIST IS A SETBACK REQUIREMENT SHOULD BE DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY USING TOWNHOMES.

TOWNHOMES WITH A CARRY GARAGE FEATURES AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ARCHITECTURAL VARIATION, THE NON-GARAGE PORTION OF THE HOME THAT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE COULD BE CLOSER TO THE PUBLIC REALM ALONG THE SIDEWALK WITH THE GARAGE PORTION WOULD MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS WOULD HAVE VEHICLES OUTSIDE OF THE SIDEWALK AREA WHERE FOLKS ARE WALKING ALONG INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT.

THE THIRD WAIVER REQUEST IS SIMPLY TO REWRITE THE CALCULATION METHOD, THE REDUCED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES BUT RUN A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD HAVE US WITH PARKING SPACES BASED ON A BEDROOM MIX DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE FINAL LAND USE PLAN BUT WE'VE SHOWN THROUGH AN ANALYSIS OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPROVED AS THEY JUST CAN'T DO THE FREEZING CALCULATION METHOD OF 1.75 SPACES WE WILL ARRIVE AT WHAT THE COURT REQUIRES GENERALLY ON AVERAGE WILL APPLY LATER ON THE WAIVER REQUEST IS TO REDUCE TREATMENT OF PARKING, IS TO APPLY 1.75 AND ENABLES US TO QUICKLY CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.HY THEN MULTIFAMILY? A LOT OF THIS WE ARE TALKING PABOUT THE SLIDE ALSO COMES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS AND THE REPORT GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT POPULATION TRENDS, WE ARE GENERALLY WAIVER BUT HERE ARE SOME SITE STATISTICS THAT WE ARE SEEING IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WAS INCLUDABLE COUNTY AS A COMPARATIVE BUT WE LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND RESTING A HIGHER POPULATION CHANGE WHAT WE ARE HAVING ALSO SEEING A LOWER VACANCY RATE AND AVAILABLE MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT WE HAVE THUS CREATING A DEMAND FOR MULTIFAMILY.

WE SWITCH BACK OVER THE SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS WE START TO SEE HOW THOSE HOMES AND MEDIAN SALE PRICES ARE HIGHER THAN IN THE SURROUNDING MARKET AREA THOSE ARE BARRIERS OR CHALLENGES TO HOMEOWNERSHIP OR LIVING SPACES.

WILL NOT HAVE EXPERIENCE INCREASE IN INTEREST RATES WHAT DOES IT MEAN? SINGLE-FAMILY HOME MARKET SLOWS DOWN AND IT SHIFTS TO WHERE YOU CAN LIVE IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THEN WE FIND HOUSING INCREASE THAT MULTIFAMILY AND HIGHER INTEREST RATES, LITERACY ABILITIES FOR HOMEOWNERS TO FIND FINANCING. IT CREATES ADDITIONAL PRESSURE AND DEMAND FOR MULTIFAMILY. THEN, WE'VE HAD THE DEMAND WE SEE THE SHORTAGE WHAT SHOULD WE DO? OUR DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO OFFER HOUSING INCENTIVES TO THE FOLLOWING LIST OF PREFERRED EMPLOYERS IN SOME CASES THEIR STUDENTS, DEALING WITH COLLEGES SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT INCENTIVE AND FIRST LOOK I PROVIDE FOR THE HOUSING ADJACEN TO WHERE THESE EMPLOYERS ARE LOCATED IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE IN THIS PORTION OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

NOW THAT WE HAVE WALKED THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE FOR LAND USE AND ZONING REGULATIONS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CONTACT SENSITIVITY CAN BILL YOU GET TO THE BREAST AFTER MITIGATING FOR IMPACT THE FIRST WILL BE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IN SEPTEMBER, REALLY WHAT THE SLIDE GIVES TO US IS AN ESTIMATE OF 405 UNITS USING THE

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THAT AGREEMENT WILL COME BEFORE THE BOARD IN OCTOBER.

THE OTHER COMPONENT THAT WE MITIGATE FOR HIS ROADWAYS AND ELLEN WALKED US THROUGH THIS LITTLE BIT ABOUT DESCRIBING THE CONTEXT, THE SLIDE AGAIN WITH AN ESTIMATE OF THE ROAD IMPACT FEES BASED ON 45 UNITS WAS CURRENTLY PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AND REVIEW WITH STAFF AND THEN WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE ON THE IMPACT FEE IS HIGHER THAN WHAT THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE WOULD BE WE ALSO MENTIONED WE RESERVED 20 FOOT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG FOR MY READINESS ELLEN MENTIONED THAT AMOUNT OR VALUE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD NOT BE SOUGHT TO HAVE IMPACT FEE CREDITS IT WILL BE A DONATION FOR THE COUNTY NOT A CREDIT MEMO FOR THE ROADWAY.

THESE NEXT SERIES OF SLIDES ARE TECHNICAL IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THIS. THOMAS HATCHER TO WALK A STRIPPER GENERALLY WITH THE SNAPSHOT SHOWS US IS THE FORMAL STUDY AREA INCLUDE AROUND THE PROJECT.

AROUND THE WORLD RAISING CAPACITIES WAS THE IMPACT, WE HAVE COMMITTED TRAFFIC THAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT AND CONCURRENCY CERTIFICATE IS NOT REAL TRAFFIC, WE WANT TO PLAN FOR BECAUSE IS BEEN ALLOCATED AND THEN WE ADD IN THE PROJECT TRAFFIC HOW DOES IT CHANGE THE LINKS ON A SIGNIFICANT OR ONE PERCENT IMPACT TO THE ROADWAY SYSTEM THAT WE SEE. THIS GIVES US A PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS WALK-THROUGH ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE CAN SEE THEM HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. THEY ARE DIRECTLY ACCESS SEGMENTS STATEMENT 16 AND FOUR MILE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WHERE THE PROJECT IS LOCATED.

THIS IS IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY. THE LIMITED PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT TRAFFIC TO THE COMMITTED ROADWAYS AND WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE HAVE THE FIVE SEGMENTS AC.

HER WALKING TO THE PROJECT SCHEDULE BECAUSE I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO TWO IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN THE STUDY, GENERALLY WE ARE WORKING IN REVIEW AT A COMMUNITY MEETING IN JULY, ZONING AGENCY IN AUGUST THIS IS 2022 YEARS, PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS MOVING FORWARD SITE PLAN REVIEW WITH STAFF THEY WILL TAKE US INTO SUMMER AND SPRING OF 2023 THEN YOU CAN EXPECT CONSTRUCTION MULTIFAMILY HOMES FROM 23 TO 24 AND THOSE APARTMENTS BEING LEASED OUT WITHIN 2025. WE THE INTERSTATE OF 16 N95 BEING COMPLETED IN YEAR 2024. BEFORE WE HAVE HOMES RESIDENTS LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE START TO SEE AND EXPERIENCE IMPROVEMENT TO THE INTERCHANGE 95 AND 16.

THE OTHER IMPROVEMENT WILL SEE WHILE SYMMETRICALLY ACCESS BUT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT INTO THE STUDY AREA IS THAT SOUTHERN PORTION OF STATE ROUTE 312 AND HOMES AT 207 AGAIN THIS SPEAKS TO PROGRESS WITH 313 AND 312 IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY RESERVATION IN THE EASTERN EDGES IN THE BELTWAY AROUND SAINT AUGUSTINE. I WANT TO SUMMARIZE HITTING HIGH POINTS WE ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE MIXED-USE CORRIDOR STATEMENT 16 THIS IS AN INFILL PROJECT.

WHERE IS LOCATED AGAIN MAJOR INTERSECTION EXISTING NOW AT FOUR MILE ROAD AND STATEMENT 16.

FUTURE WITH 312 AT A FUTURE SIGNAL AT 16 AND 312.

THE COMPATIBLE DESIGN IMMEDIATELY SEGREGATED FROM ANY ADJACENT USES THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM OURS AND EXTEND ABOUT DENSITY BY THREE MAJOR ROADWAYS, WE HAVE THAT NATURAL LANE WE ARE INCLUDING BUFFERS AND WE HAVE LANDSCAPE, BECAUSE OF ACCESS TO THE RIVER NETWORK AND MAKES CONVENIENT AND THE NEED TO PLACE HOUSING IN THE AREA.

WE ARE OFFERING INCENTIVES, WE'VE WALKED TO THE LIST, WE HAVE THE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY PAVEMENT IN IMPACT FEES WE SEE WOODY PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE WOULD BE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM WHICH OF THE PLANNING CONCEPTS WHICH INCLUDE IDENTITY SO WE CAN SUPPORT THE PROGRAM HAVE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THIS LAST SLIDE IS REMINDING US OF ALL WE BEEN IN THE STAFF FOUNDING, THE TECHNICAL DENIAL VOTE AT THE PCA WITH A SHORT BOARD ON THE HEARING. WILL PROSPER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? LET'S DO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

QUESTION BOARD WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME ON THE

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IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DISPLAY AN OVERDUE COMPANY HERE

IN THE CENTER PODIUM. >> CHUCK, 7048 N. -- IS A GREAT PROJECT TO MAKE USE OF THE AREA.

NOT MORE OR IF WERE OR IF PAYWARE DIDN'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER AT ONE TIME TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD? WHICH OF THEM A FORMAL ROAD FROM HERE TO HERE.

EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, IT IS BACKED UP.

IT IS CONSTANTLY BACKED UP. YOU CANNOT GET THROUGH THAT IT TAKES FOR LIFECYCLES TO GET THROUGH THAT SECTION.

ANOTHER THOUSAND CARS IN THE AREA? WE ARE LOOKING AT HOMES, WE LOOK AT FOUR MILE RUN, LOOKING AT 16. RIGHT NOW, THOSE THREE ROADS ARE OVERCAPACITY RIGHT NOW. THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AND WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON DOING THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN 312, THROUGH NOBODY KNOWS AT THIS POINT. A LOT OF THE ROADS IN THE AREA, THERE IS NO COMMITMENT TO HAVE ANYTHING DONE.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE, UNFUNDED AND UNFUNDED.

EVERY ONE OF THEM. THERE IS NO COMMITMENT TO HAVE ANYTHING DONE ON THOSE. IT SHOWED A NICE FOUR-LANE ROAD THAT THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO COMING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.

INTO A TWO LANE ROAD. THERE IS NO SET TIME TO HAVE IT DONE. WE'RE PUTTING 1000 CARS INTO DRIVEWAYS IN AND OUT, THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND COMMITTED TO BEFORE THEY GO TO THE PROJECT, THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE TURN IN YOUR PAPERWORK TO THE CLERK.

HI THERE, WELCOME. >>.

[INAUDIBLE] 14 MISSION COVE CIRCLE.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE HAD AND I HAVEN'T FELT IS BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE BORROW PITS. WE'VE ALL SEEN THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY ABOUT THE FLOODING IN A LOT OF AREAS.

ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS SAID THAT THEY CAN SEE A CROSS FROM THE HOUSE FROM THE PROPERTY AND ALL THE LAND IS FLOODED.

THE PROPOSAL SAYS THAT THEY INTEND TO FILL IN SIX ACRES OF WETLANDS. I WOULDN'T CALL THEM NATURAL LANDSCAPES, IT REQUIRES UNDER FLORIDA ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION LAW, THAT THESE BE RECLAIMED.

SO, I'LL SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST LEAVE A NATURAL LAKE IF THERE HAS BEEN MINING IN THE AREA, THEY PROBABLY REQUIRE REMEDIATION. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WOULD IT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT? NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

LESLIE KETO JOHNSON MISSION COVE CIRCLE.

ALSO HAPPENED TO BE DIRECTOR OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AFLAC OR COLLAGEN FACULTY MEMBER 20 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN SEVERAL OF YOU OVER TIME.

APPRECIATE THAT. AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT'S COMING DOWN TO TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT'S BASED IN LARGE PART ON GRAMMAR. BETWEEN AND AND OR PAY MOST OF HER PRESENTATIONS, THERE 30 OF US BEHIND ME, RELATE TO WHAT WAS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, THEREFORE DO NOT RELATE TO PART OF WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.

WANT TO FUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS BEING ORGANIZED AREA AND IT IS A FORMAL DEFINITION OF THAT IN THE U.S. CENSUS AND THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT. SO, THERE'S AN APP YOU'LL KNOW WHERE IT IS, FOR MARGARET. ALSO GOING TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT DENSITY. THIS IS A COUNTY UTILITY BUILDING. AND THE SITE WHICH IS FULLY TREATED AND WILL BE AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, FULLY CLEARED, THOSE TREES 60 FEET TALL WILL NO LONGER BE THERE.

I'M SURE ALL OF US WILL BE LONG GONE, NO OFFENSE, BY THE TIME THE REPLACEMENT TREES ARE 60 FEET TALL.

SOME DON'T GO THAT FAST ESPECIALLY FLOODED AREAS.

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IN THE UPPER LEFT PICTURE YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE STREET AS A FAMILY -- SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES.

BEHIND THE TRAILER BUT DIRECTLY SOUTHWEST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. WE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE A CHURCH. YOU CAN SEE THE SAN SEBASTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH VILLAGES -- ACROSS THE NORTH AND MISSION TRACE.UR LITTLE LAND UNIT FULLY BUILT OUT SINGLE-FAMILY SUBDIVISION, IT'S BEEN ALMOST 15 YEARS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST ACROSS FROM WHAT WOULD BE THE 313 BYPASS.

I HAVE MORE PICTURES TO GIVE YOU SCALE.

PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS THEY MAY BE 95,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. IF SO, THEY'LL BE 40 FEET TALL WHICH PERSONALLY TO ME, IS MUCH MORE DESIRABLE THAN WHAT I JUST SAW. A SET OF FOUR APARTMENT BUILDINGS NOW, NONE APARTMENT BUILDINGS BEING PROPOSED.

SOME OF WHICH WOULD BE 60 FEET TALL.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ANY NEW BY THAT MEETS THE SCALE THIS WEEK AND SEES WITHIN HALF A MILE.

THIS IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

NONE OF THIS ARE THAT HEIGHT. MISSION TRACE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES WE HAVE A STRONG MILITARY PRESENCE HERE TOO BY THE WAY. 90 PERCENT OWNER OCCUPIED, VERY FEW RENTALS, WE TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER, WE HAVE LONG-TERM

RESIDENTS AND OWNERS. >> THANK YOU MAN.

IF YOU PLEASE TURN THAT IN TO THE STAFF I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR, PLEASE.

>> GOOD MORNING MINIMUS MIKE SPADE, MY ADDRESS IS 201 MISSION TRACE SAINT AUGUSTINE. I'VE LIVED AT MY PRESENT ADDRESS ALMOST 13 YEARS. MY HOUSE ACTUALLY BACKS UP TO FORM A ROAD. WE ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY AN INCREASE IN THE ROAD. I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS NECESSARY BUT SHOULD BE SMART AND SAFE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL IS EITHER.

FOR MARGARET BETWEEN 16 -- YOU READ HERS ALREADY OVERLY CONGESTED AND DANGEROUS. DUMPING OF THE 600+ CARS EVERY DAY DAILY, DRIVING IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR FORM A ROW, IS THE SMARTEST DAY FOR THE UNITS.

THE TRANSPORTATION OFFICE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, ROADS ALREADY OVERLOADED AND CONSIDERED CRITICAL OR INSUFFICIENT.

-- THESE CHANGES WILL IMPACT FOR MARGARET AND STATE WERE 16 NEGATIVELY. FOR INSTANCE, FORMAL ROAD, THE HOME TO STAY WERE 16 IS SUFFICIENT 151 PERCENT CAPACITY. IT IS CRITICAL 90 PERCENT CAPACITY. HOMES ROAD FROM WEST KING STREET TO FORM A ROAD, CRITICAL 97 PERCENT CAPACITY.

FOR MARGARET IS ONLY A TWO ROAD WERE TWO LANE ROAD.

CONTINUES TO GET WORSE TRAFFIC WISE EVERY DAY IS A GENTLEMAN ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, I CAN SIT ON THE PORCH MY DOGS WILL BARK EVERY TIME TRAFFIC YOU KNOW I KNOW THE TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP.

MY DOGS TELL ME. YOUR DRIVERS WANT TO USE IT AS A CUTTER TO GO TO 16 TO GET TO 95.

AND TO GO DOWNTOWN. TYPICAL WORKDAY BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE YOU CAN HAVE STEADY TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS WAITING FOR THE LIGHTS ON EACH WRITER 16 AND FOR MARGARET.

SORRY LITTLE NERVOUS TODAY. THIS ROAD JUST CANNOT SUPPORT ANY MORE TRAFFIC. WE ARE ALREADY SEEING, AND IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, I HAD TO SAY. PEOPLE ARE NOT USED TO A LOT OF TRAFFIC YOU KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC.

PEOPLE LIKE TO DO LIKE US AND NOT THE SMARTEST THING TO DO, PASS ON THE BLINDS, GO AROUND THE SHOULDERS.

I'VE SEEN ALL THE FORMAL ROAD AND ON HOMES AND STATE ROAD 16.

NOT AS MUCH BECAUSE IT SEPARATED.

BUT ALL OF THE HIGHWAYS ARE ALREADY DANGEROUS AND UNSAFE.

FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS AS IS AND REQUEST MODIFICATIONS TO REDUCE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT. ANDREW THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR MARGARET. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO

YOU AND GIVE YOU MY COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

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>> MY NAME IS.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THE INCREASED DENSITY. THE STATE ROAD 16, RACETRACK SQUARE PROJECT PROPOSES 282 APARTMENTS ON RACETRACK ROAD AND 16 READING THE SAME RATIO THAT WAS USED TO ESTIMATE THE TRAFFIC LEVELS FOR ANOTHER PROJECT THIS PROJECT WITHIN MAKE ABOUT 2600 CAR TRIPS PER DAY ON TO STATE ROAD 16.

THIS PROPOSAL HUNDRED AND 75 HOMES IN THE AREA THAT USED TO BE THE OUTLET MALL. IT'S ABOUT 1200 CAR TRIPS PER DAY. 23,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE AND PERHAPS, 850 CAR TRIPS PER DAY.

THIS BERBER PROJECT PROPOSES 405 APARTMENTS ADDING 2700 CAR TRIPS PER DAY. THEN ADDING A 95,000 SQUARE-FOOT COMMERCIAL SPACE WITH PERHAPS ANOTHER 3500 CAR TRIPS PER DAY. THE TOTAL FOR ALL THREE PROJECTS IS ALMOST 11,000 CAR TRIPS PER DAY, MOSTLY UNDER STATE ROAD 16. RIMMER, 6200 OF THAT 11,000 IS THIS PROJECT. THEN ADD STATE ROAD 313 OR WHATEVER, JUNCTION WITH STATE ROAD 16.

THE BLUE DOT REPRESENTS RUSSIAN TRACE.

ALSO, I PERSONALLY WITNESSED THE RESULTS OF THREE MAJOR ACCIDENTS ON OR NEAR STATE ROAD 16.

AND THIS IS AN AVERAGE PLUS ANOTHER ONE AVERAGE OF ONE EVERY SIX MONTHS AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE BEFORE, DURING AND SINCE. BUT IN THOUSANDS MORE CAR TRIPS PER DAY FROM THESE APPROVED AND PROPOSED PROJECTS, WILL ADD MANY MORE MAJOR ACCIDENTS. I HAVE AN AVIS WITH A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS.

SHE WAS TEACHING FIVE CLASSES PER DAY IN THIS NORMAL FOR HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER. HOWEVER, SHE IS REQUIRED TO TEACH SIX CLASSES WHICH MEANS LESS PREP TIME.

EACH CLASS IS SO CROWDED THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER LIFE, SHE HAS MORE THAN 200 STUDENTS. THIS ST. JOHN'S COUNTIES OFFER OUTSTANDING SCHOOLS AND ABOUT TO APPROVE THE PROJECT IS ABOUT TO SACRIFICE OUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION, IF APPROVE OF THE PROJECT INCLUDES A MAJOR APARTMENT COMPLEX, PEOPLE WILL STILL BE WORRYING ABOUT TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND CREDIT SCHOOLS. PLEASE DENY THE PROPOSAL.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WHEN ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE OTHER FOLKS THAT MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK. IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU WILL SPEAK NEXT FEEL FREE TO STAND AT TRAC DRIVE.

I LIKE TO BE A LETTER FROM ANOTHER NEIGHBOR, TIMOTHY JOHNSON, 302 MISSION TRACE DRIVE.

EMAIL VISIBLY TO ALL OF Y'ALL. FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WITH THIS EMAIL REQUEST YOU TURNED ON THE FERBER PUD REQUEST. AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN RECENTLY NOTED THE PROJECT ESTIMATE CONFERENCE OF PLANT POLICY A1311. NUMBER ONE PROJECT ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING, SIDE LIMIT SET FOR 60 FEET THESE DO NOT DO THAT.

THE PROJECT INTRODUCES EXCESSIVELY TRAFFIC AND ALREADY ADVERSELY AFFECTED ROAD. THIS IS DISTURBING WETLANDS AND SERVICE WORKER AREAS. THERE IS ALSO IF IT SHOWS ENOUGH PARKING ONLY 469 SPACES PROVIDED AT 709 REQUIRED.

-- IN AN EARLIER LETTER REGARDING ANOTHER PD PROPOSAL

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OR DO WE NEED A 33 ACRE PROPOSAL ON 5000 SQUARE FEET 400+ APARTMENTS ROUGHLY 700 PARKING SPACES FOR BUILDINGS TO WHICH ARE 60 FEET TALL EXTENSIVE WETLANDS AND HEAVILY DEFICIENT SCALE. 11 HURRICANE IAN, WE WANT AGAIN REMAIN PAINFULLY AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF WETLANDS.

AS FAR AS THE PUD WILL DESTROY THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WETLANDS THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE IS AN EARLIER ARTICLE POINTED OUT THESE ARE AN INTEGRAL DIMENSION OF THE 12 MILE SWAMP. YES, DEVELOPMENT IS INEVITABLE.

OF THE AREA CONSIDERATION WILL BE DEVELOPED WITH A SUSTAINABLE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW US.

NOT ALL DEVELOPMENT SMART AND LOGICAL TO CONCLUDE THAT THE FERBER PUD IS NOT SMART, -- PLEASE LET LOGIC AND PRECEDENT -- DENY THIS REQUEST. ON A PERSONAL NOTE I LIVE RIGHT BESIDE THE ROAD COMING IN AND THE LAKE.

AND THAT IS ALMOST ALWAYS 100 PERCENT OR 90 PERCENT WET.

IT IS UNFORTUNATE, I BOUGHT IT FOR THE LOOK.

BACK UP TO ALL CONSERVATION AREAS.

MY BAD, I DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE REST OF IT.

THIS HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN, WHETHER IT BE MAN-MADE OR NOT, A WETLAND RETENTION WATER RETENTION FOR STORMWATER RUNOFF. THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY BY THE PROJECT AND THE ROAD.

BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERING THEIR PROJECTS.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS RON -- SERVE AS LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE TRUSTEES OF ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE.

THE TRUSTEES HAVE ASKED TRENT BECKWITH I'M SORRY, YOU ARE

JUST QUICK. >> 71 S. DIXIE HIGHWAY.

THE TRUSTEES HAVE ASKED TO ATTEND TO MAKE COMMENTS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WITH ME THAT WILL NOT BE SPEAKING, I WILL TALK TO FOR THREE MINUTES ON ISSUES THAT THE TRUSTEES HAVE.

ON THIS PROJECT IN CONDITION WITH A PROJECT MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THE MEDICINE PROJECT, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE COLLEGE CAMPUS FOR THE EASTERN STATE WERE 16.

THAT PROCESS PROJECT WENT THROUGH THREE YEARS BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING, FAVORABLY RESPONDED BY PLANNING AND ZONING AND WAS SCHEDULED FOR TODAY BUT WAS WITHDRAWN.

OUR IMMEDIATE CONCERNS WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT HAVE INVADED.

HOWEVER, COLLEGE IS STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERALL SCOPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND TREND OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG STATEMENT 16 LONGFORM OVERT. OUR CONCERN HAS TO DO WITH WHAT WE COPY, SCOPE AND DEVELOPMENT AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROJECTS ALONG 16.

THIS PROJECT IS DISSIMILAR TO ANYTHING BEING PROPOSED PREVIOUSLY IN ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN BUILT PREVIOUSLY.

THE APPLICANT MENTIONED ONE PROJECT FOR THE WEST AT 55 FOOT BUILDINGS. THIS BOARD HOWEVER HAS REJECTED YOU PROJECTS WHICH WERE DISSIMILAR AND WITH ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSISTENCY AS A NEIGHBOR DEVELOPMENT DOES THE PROJECT STATE RETURNS FIVE AND 207 AND WHEN TO REFER TO HIS BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN, AND THE PROJECT EAST OF CITY ROAD WHICH WAS RECENTLY REJECTED. THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY THE INTERSTATE AT 270 AND 95 ON WHAT I BELIEVE WAS THE OLD CAFC TRANSFER PROPERTY ONTO ANYONE WILL MISS THAT BUT SOMETHING NEW THEY WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

PLANNING AND ZONING HAD A SERIOUS CONCERN WITH THE ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF LONG 16 64 BUILDINGS, 55 FOOT BUILDINGS WOULD CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE. THIS IS NOT THE CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE NOW. THE FOLKS FROM MISSION TRACE ARE CONCERNED, THEY PRESENTED QUITE A BIT OF EVIDENCE REGARDING TRAFFIC AND DENSITY AND INTENSITY.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO MAKE A STATEMENT AGAIN CONCERNING WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY WE WANT TO HAVE, WILL COME INTENSITY, KIND OF ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT WE WANT TO HAVE ALONG STATEMENT 16 AND IN THE AREA.

TO MAKE IT AN APPROPRIATE FACILITY.

OTHERWISE IF YOU START GOING HIGHER AND CREATING MORE TRAFFIC GETTING MORE INTENSITY THERE WILL BE DIFFICULTIES.

THE DIFFICULTIES AGAIN TRAFFIC FLOW WITH USE OF PROPERTY AND ONCE YOU DEVELOP THE PROPERTY ALONG THOSE LINES THIS IS WHAT

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ALSO. >> THNK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT LAUNDRY PODS WE NEED TO EVERY SPEAKER. IT HELPS US MOVE ALONG IF WE HOLD APPLAUSE, THANK YOU. YES SIR?

>> I DON'T THINK I'LL GET ANY APPLAUSE.

MY NAME IS JOE PICKENS 125 WOODBERRY SATSUMA IN PUTNAM COUNTY. HE IS PRESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS RIVER STATE COLLEGE. A FEW HUNDRED YARDS EAST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. I WAS NOT PLANNING ON SPEAKING AS MR. BROWN INDICATED, BUT I NEED TO BECAUSE I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE COLLEGE THAT APPARENTLY DOESN'T EXIST IN THE MINDS OF THIS DEVELOPER. OR AT LEAST WE DON'T WANT MENTIONED. NOR THE IMPACT UPON THE COLLEGE AND MY STUDENTS AND MY EMPLOYEES WARRANT CONSIDERATION. YOU CAN SEE THAT NEITHER MY STUDENTS, NOR MY EMPLOYEES, WERE MENTIONED IN CONSIDERATIONS, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE JUST A FEW HUNDRED YARDS TO THE EAST. OUR CONCERNS AS MR. BROOKS STATED, OR NOT THE FACT THAT THIS IS MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL OR THAT IT MIGHT BE BOTH.

IIT IS A DENSITY, SCOPE AND SCALE.

I GET IT BUT APPARENTLY EVEN I LIVE IN PUTNAM COUNTY, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THIS THEN THE DEVELOPER WHO ALSO LIVES IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. THEY WERE AS CONCERNED THE SCALE WOULD SIMPLY BE SMALLER. I GET IT, IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY. LET'S MAXIMIZE OUR PROFIT POTENTIAL. IT IS AMERICA AFTER ALL! I SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THERE'S A BETTER WAY THAN THE AMERICAN WAY. THAT IS THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WEIGHT. THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WAY SHOULD BE, NOT QUITE AS DENSE AS THEY PROPOSE, NOT MAXIMIZING THEIR PROFIT AS THEY DESIRE, BUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS OF MISSION TRACE, THE STUDENTS OF ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT LIVES AROUND IT.

MY CHALLENGE DUSEN SET THE STANDARD FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAY. THAT'S NOT MAXIMIZING THE POTENTIAL AND PROFIT TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT AND ENJOYMENT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> APPRECIATE IT.

AGAIN, PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE.

IT'S REALLY VIOLATION OF OUR BOARD RULES AND DECOR.

I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS AS HEAVY-HANDED BUT I ASK YOU COMPLY AND HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE, THANK YOU. YES MA'AM, YOUR

TURN. >> STEPHANIE REAMES, -- ACROSS FROM ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE.

I WOULD LIKE TO PIGGYBACK AFTER MISSING BEGINS.

THEY WERE SHUNNED AND STEPCHILDREN TO THE PRESENTATION AND SHAME ON THAT LADY FOR NOT INCLUDING THEM AS THEY ARE NEIGHBOR. IN THIS PROPOSAL, EVERYBODY'S READY TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET, YOUR CURRENTLY WHERE THE DEFICIENT AND CRITICAL ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE AND BY THE DEVELOPER, SUGGESTING THAT THEIR PROJECT WILL ONLY IMPACT ONE PERSON OF THE TRAFFIC -- ONE PERCENT OF THE TRAFFIC TOOK THEM FROM HAVING ONE DEFICIENT WORD WITH HAVING SEVERAL DEFICIENT ROADWAYS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NUMBERS AND UP I THINK THAT'S FUZZY MATH. ALSO, IF YOU LIKE ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE HAS A HUGE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

MAYBE STUDENT HOUSING WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION.

I'M NOT AGAINST MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

HOWEVER, THE RENTS AND OR LOCATION AND CITY, EVEN JUST IN THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE IS OVER $2000 A MONTH.

THAT IS WHAT OTHER COUNTIES TO WORK TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. I HAVE CHOSEN AMONG PRIVATE SCHOOL AND ONE PUBLIC SCHOOL. WHILE I TRAVEL OUT OF THE COUNTY TO WORK. I FEEL LIKE THE COMMISSION HAS A DUTY TO UPHOLD THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU.O MAKE A STANCE ON SLOWING DOWN THE GROWTH.R AT LEAST MAKE IT WITHIN THE SCOPE. AS MR. PICKENS SAID, AS A LEGAL COUNSEL ALSO STATED, IS NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF ANYTHING AROUND IT. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A SIX-STORY BUILDING. THE CLOSEST THING TO THAT WE HAVE IS A TWO-STORY HEALTH AND SCIENCE CENTER AT THE COLLEGE.

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>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE? YES MA'AM, WELCOME. QUESTION AFTER MY NAME IS SARAH -- 367 MISSION TRACE. THIS IS MY SECOND TIME HERE FOR THE SAME SITUATION BACK IN AUGUST.

I SPOKE. I DO OWN BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AND THEY DO SPEAK OF THE SUNSHINE BUS ROUTE.

IT DOESN'T GO DOWNTOWN. THE PEOPLE I EMPLOY, WE PAY THE BEST WE CAN. THEY WOULD IN NO WAY EVEN BE ABLE TO AFFORD HOUSING HERE, THIS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

MY HOUSE DIRECTLY IS RIGHT BEHIND THIS WHOLE SITUATION.

AND HAVE A BOAT AND WE WENT ON THE BOAT YOU SO WE DID WITH THE DEPTH FINDER TO 16 FEET. I KNOW FLORIDA CONSIDERS A FOR, INFORMATION BUT WHEN YOU ARE IN THE LAKE, THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE ONES ACTUALLY IN THIS WHOLE PROPERTY.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT PORTION, AND YOU LOOK OUT, THERE IS MAYBE 100 FEET FROM STATE ROAD 16 COMMENTS ON THE HIGHWAY.

HERE AREN'T ANY HIGHWAYS AROUND HERE.

THIS IS STATE ROAD 16 AND THEN, YOU MAYBE HAVE 100 FEET BEFORE YOU ARE LITERALLY IN A 16 FOOT DEEP GIANT LAKE SITUATION.

AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FIT? NOTHING THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING OR EVEN TO SCALE, I COULD SIT HERE AND RENDER DRAWING ALL DAY LONG. NOTHING IS TO SCALE.

UNDERSTAND HOW THE SEWAGE COULDN'T HANDLE IT COME THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE TOILET AND SEWAGE AND WATER, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN AFFORD TO EVEN, HOW ARE THEY NOT EVEN DOING WATER TESTING? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I CAME BACK THERE WAS A SITUATION THEY WERE DOING, SO THE MOUNT WERE THERE WITH POLES AND RODS AND THEY ARE AWARE OF HOW DEEP THE AREA IS AND HOW GIANT THIS WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS. THEY JUST KEEP OVERLOOKING IT.

THERE'S NO ILL BE SEPARATE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO FIT ON A 50 FOOT SECTION OF HIGH AND DRY LAND WHICH IS ONLY NOT HIGH AND DRY AND SOAKING WET! THEY TALK ABOUT FILLING IN ACRES AND ACRES. AT FIRST IT WAS WE OWN 33 ACRES. NO YOU DON'T, YOU OWN SIX.

YOUR PROPOSING HOPEFULLY GET THE REST OF THE ACREAGE IF THIS BOARD ALLOWS IT. WHICH IS JUST TO EVEN MAKE SENSE FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IN THE AREA, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, GO CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY, GO CLOSE INFRASTRUCTURES THEY MAKE SENSE FOR THESE GIANT HIGH-RISES.

THERE IS NO LINE OF SIGHT, 60 FEET, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IF I LOOK AT MY BACK DOOR AND WINDOW WHERE 16 IS, I CAN SEE A LIGHT POST AND NOW, MY LINE OF SIGHT NOW I WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE 60 FOOT HIGH SITES. NOW THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS TO OUR VALUABLE HOMES GOT GO-- GET TO DECREASE BECAUSE OF THESE DEVELOPERS. FUNNY HOW THEY COULD HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL OF YOU FOLKS FIRST WHILE ALL OF US SIT HERE ON THE SIDELINES, WE DON'T GET THAT KIND OF POWER WOULD HAVE THE KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE. AND YOU GUYS ARE, OUR COMMISSIONS NEED TO SAY NO TO THIS.

IT'S GETTING OUT OF CONTROL, GO TO AREAS THAT MAKE SENSE, NOT RIGHT UPSIDE PEOPLES HOMES PERIOD.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES, SIR?

>> CHARLES HUNT, MILLCREEK ESTATES.

I LIKE TO BRING AN ISSUE, WHAT SEEMS LIKE JUST AN ABSOLUTE WAY TO CRAM SO MANY APARTMENTS INTO A SMALL AREA.

AND KIND OF LIKE, ON OTHER DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN THERE LOOKING AT -- THAT COMES DOWN. YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WILL COME THROUGH SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT 1700 HOMES HERE.

WE CAN PUT 200 HOMES A WEEK ABOUT 400 AND OR HOWEVER MANY WE WANT TO HAVE BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF 313 COMING IN.

THE ENGINE 13 HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET.

AND LOOKING AT THE, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ACTION PLAN, TRANSPORTATION, STUDENT RETENTION 12, CRINGING 13 BYPASS REQUESTED $95 MILLION FOR THE PROPOSED STATE ROAD ENGINE 13 EXTENSION BYPASS. JUST THE LOWER SEGMENT FROM 207 TO STATE ROAD 16. JUST $95 MILLION FOR THAT.

AND HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE? HOW LONG FROM GETTING THE

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YES, THERE IS A LONG-RANGE PLAN BUT ALSO LOOKING UP IF THIS PROPERTY IS, OR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED, YOUR LOOKING AT HOW MANY CARS COME IN AND OUT A DAY.

IT MAY START IN 2025. BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER VEHICLES DURING THOSE YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT.

YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BUILDING HOMES.

OR THE TOWNHOUSES OR MULTIPURPOSE HOMES.

COMING IN AND OUT AND NOT JUST YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL VEHICLES.

RUNNING ON BATTERIES NO COMING OF UTILITY TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE.

IT IS A MADHOUSE. BUT IT DOES.

THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE. WILL IT HAPPEN? WHO KNOWS! 312 OR 313 EXTENSION, YES, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT WHAT WILL GO WITH THIS 400+ MULTIFAMILY HOUSING? IS IT GOING TO BE AN OVERPASS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE AREA? IS IT GOING TO BE AN INCENTIVE TO PUT MORE HOUSING THERE IN THE AREA? BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED ROAD THAT I THINK THE COUNTY IS STILL WAITING ON THE $95 MILLION TO START BUILDING THAT PORTION. SO YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE BACK BURNER BECAUSE $95 MILLION, IF YOU WANT TO STOP BUILDING 313, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> JOE -- GROUP HERE TODAY HAS COVERED SO MANY POINTS. GO TO KIND OF WRAP IT UP BECAUSE ALL THOSE FIT UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A1311. IT DOES SAY THAT WHERE THERE IS REZONING THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER SHOULD ENSURE COMPATIBILITY OF ADJACENT ZONING LAND USES. TAKE INTO ACCOUNT NUMEROUS CHARACTERISTICS, DENSITY, HEIGHT, TRAFFIC, SURFACE WATERS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SEVEN BUILDINGS PROPOSED 60 FEET HIGH. 405 UNITS 33 ACRES, 12.3 UNITS PER ACRE. NORMAL COMMISSION TRACE, 19, 51.4 ACRES, 1.75 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PROPOSAL IS JUST NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. LET'S GO WITH THE FOUR MILE ROAD. THERE YOU HAVE OR AN EVEN RURAL OR MOBILE HOME. IT VARIES BUT THAT COULD BE 2 TO 3 HOMES PER ACRE. NORTH OF 16, THERE ARE NUMEROUS USES. A CHURCH, WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND DAVIDSON, 2 TO 4 HOUSES PER ACRE APPEAR REAL DEFICIENT ROADWAYS MET THAT CAN BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. AS FAR AS A1311 SAYS IT CAN HAVE UNREASONABLE IMPACT ON SUNNY TRAFFIC AND OF COURSE, WE'VE SEEN THE UNFUNDED CHART HERE.

AND THIS IS A VERY WET SITE, THIS IS A VERY WET SITE.

AND AGAIN, A1311 SAYS YOU CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SURFACE WATER, IX ACRES OF WETLANDS AND SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SURFACE WATERS AND NATURAL SPRINGS.

TAKING ALL INTO ACCOUNT, YOU CAN APPLY A1311. THE TRAFFIC FLOWS UNREASONABLE ON TRAFFIC, NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT AND SURROUNDING LAND USES AND DOES NOT COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING CHARACTER OF WETLANDS. DENIAL IS JUSTIFIED, IT DOES NOT MEET A1311. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ABOUT DENSITY AND PRESENT. TO SET A PRECEDENT HERE.

I THINK WE WILL THEN APPLY THE UP AND DOWN STATE ROAD PARTICUL APPLICATION, IF IT IS NOT PULLED AND ASKED FOR A

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>> THANK YOU. CAN ANYONE ELSE LIKE MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES MA'AM.

>> GOOD MORNING, BETH -- THIS FILM ACTUALLY DISTURBED YOU MORE THAN THE ALTERNATE. IT IS BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA ON FOUR MILE ROAD, THIS MAY BE LONG 16 IT DOES NOT BELONG ON FORMAL ROAD PERIOD.

A DRIVE-BY -- CREEK CROSSING EVERYDAY AND I SEE WHAT IT DID TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND FROM THE COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRICE OF THE APARTMENTS, IT'S GREAT THEY ARE OFFERING DISCOUNTS FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYERS. SERVICE WORKERS DOWNTOWN.

THEY STILL WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE.

THIS NOT PROVIDING A MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR SERVICE WORKERS IN THE COUNTY. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CAN PASS FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT AND IS NOT PROVIDING BENEFIT FROM THE WORK WORKFORCE HOUSING PERSPECTIVE.

PRACTICE MA'AM? >> CHERRY BADGER -- IT SEEMS LIKE ALL THE VULTURES ARE OUT. Y'ALL DO NEED, THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT YOU TO SET A PRECEDENT.

I DON'T WHAT YOU SET A PRECEDENT.

I LIVED TWO HOUSES FROM 16. SO, IF YOU'RE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD VOTED 2-2 THAT WANT TO SEND A RED FLAG TO HELL BECAUSE THEY DON'T VOTE NO ON ANYTHING.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? I SEE SOMEBODY COMING UP. YES SIR?

>> JODY HUNTER, 2400 DEER RUN ROAD.

A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FOR SOMEONE THAT LIVES ON DEER RUN THE INTERSEX FORM AROUND THE HOUSE TO GET OFF THE EVERYDAY AND GET BACK ON. TRAFFIC ON FORMAL ROAD NOW, IF SOMEONE DOESN'T STOP WHAT YOU'RE, THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING LEFT TO GO TO 16, YOU NEVER GET BOTH LANES CLEAR ONE TIME. UNLESS SOMEONE STOPS HEADING WEST TO LET YOU GET OFF. THAT ADDED CHAPTER 4 MARGARET IS JUST GOING TO COMPLICATE THE ISSUE.

THE OTHER THING, THERE IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND, I KNOW IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED BUT UPWARD OF 800 HOMES BEING BUILT AT THE END OF DEER RUN ROAD. WHICH IS GOING TO PUT A LOT MORE TRAFFIC ON FOUR MILE ROAD, IT WILL COMPLICATE THE ISSUE MORE FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE THERE TRYING TO GET OUT.

JUST WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC ALREADY, AND THE TRAFFIC AND WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD JUST MAKE IT UNBEARABLE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR, I APPRECIATE THAT. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE MR. CHAIRMAN, WE

WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO

RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS?>> YES, IF WE CAN HAVE THE POWERPOINT UP AGAIN, PLEASE. WE WILL PROVIDESOME FACTUAL TESTIMONY FROM OUR EXPERTS IN A MINUTE.

I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT IS GOING SLOWLY BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIND THE PARTICULAR MAP. I APOLOGIZE.

SORRY. OKAY, THIS IS THE MAP I WAS LOOKING FOR TO START. WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SITE THAT IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY ROADS. STATE ROAD 16 IS FOUR LANES ON THE NORTH PART OF THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A 250 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY FOR STATE ROAD 312. WITH RESPECT TO FORM AROUND IT IS OBVIOUSLY A -- RED THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL PROJECT THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY. WITH RESPECT TO THE ROADWAY, OR THE LOCATION OF ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE, IT IS NOT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IT IS IN THIS VICINITY.

THIS PROJECT IS NOT ACCESS KENTON MORRISON ROAD SO THERE SHOULD BE LITTLE PROJECT ROAD THERE.

THE TWO ACCESS POINTS ARE ON THE FIRST ONE ON FORMAL ROAD, THE SECOND ONE ON STATE ROAD 16.

SO AGAIN, ALSO NOT ADJACENT TO ST. JOHN'S RIVER STATE COLLEGE.

WITH RESPECT TO THE COLLEGE, WE ASSUME BECAUSE A COUNTY -- THE

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AFTER FACULTY AND STUDENTS WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR CLIENTS OFFER FOR PREFERRED EMPLOYERS AND STUDENTS, WE ARE HAPPY TO ADD THEM TO THE LIST. OF PREFERRED EMPLOYERS AND STUDENTS FOR THE RENTAL GREAT. I DO WANT TO HAVE BIOTECH TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT AND THE STORMWATER PIT POND.HEN ALSO, MS. -- TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. I ALSO WANT WHILE THEY ARE COMING UP, I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU, I'LL GO BACK THROUGH THE SLIDES, THAT THE ROAD IMPACT FEES, WHICH OF COURSE, OR JUST TOMMY JUST INCREASED ROAD IMPACT FEES IN OCTOBER 1. THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND ROAD IMPACT FEES FOR THIS PROJECT ALONE, WOULD BE ENOUGH TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT TO FORMAL ROAD, THEN ASSISTED ON ONE OF YOUR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT LISTS.

THEY WOULD BE ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE THE TURN LANE IMPROVEMENT NOTED BY YOUR STAFF FOR FOUR MARGARET TO HELP TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD FOR EXISTING RESIDENTS AND ALSO, FUTURE RESIDENTS.

JUST KNOW THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE AGAIN, ROAD IMPACT FEES AND PROPORTIONATE SHARE FOR THE PROJECT, IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT AMOUNT RIGHT HERE. IT'S ALMOST $3 MILLION.

ALTOGETHER.AND SO, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO COME UP FIRST. WHILE THEY ARE DOING THAT, MAMA POINT I WILL MAKE CUMMAQUID FLAGLER COLLEGE ON THE LIST AS FAR AS THE OTHER EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY RENTAL RATES FOR ALL STUDENTS AND EMPLOYEES IN THE AREAS GOING UP BECAUSE THERE IS SO LITTLE SUPPLY. ONE OF THE BIG BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE TO PROVIDE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN AN AREA THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS IT. ONCE YOU HAVE SUPPLY IN THE AREA, RENTAL RATES GO DOWN. THAT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND, ECONOMICS 101. GO AHEAD.

CHRIS JEREMY COOPER BIOTECH ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, 38 CRYSTAL CREST LANE. IN REGARDS TO THE WETLANDS, DEFINITIONS ARE IMPORTANT. THE TWO WILL IS A LETTER CONSIDERED LEGAL BY ST. JOHN RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AND THE WATER PIT IS CONSIDERED -- THIS WILL BE ESTIMATED NOT FILLED.

WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STORMWATER PROTECTION FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA, NOT JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT IS REGULATED THROUGH ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR APPROVAL IN RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE PROJECT TOWARDS ME. THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED YET BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SO.

IN REGARDS TO THE RECLAMATION AND THE PIT MENTIONED, THERE IS NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FOR REMEDIATION NEEDED FOR THOSE, NO SIGNS OF ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED ENVIRONMENTALLY FROM A STANDPOINT LIKE THAT. IN ADDITION, ECOSYSTEM SERVICES PROVIDED ARE MITIGATED THROUGH THE PURCHASE OF WETLAND MITIGATION CREDITS. GENERATED BY LOCAL NATURAL AREAS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY TRANSFER THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECTS COME FROM MITIGATION CREDITS FROM PROJECT LIKE THIS.

THEY ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THE STORMWATER PROBLEMS IN THE STORMWATER PITS WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY COME ECOSYSTEM SERVICES WILL BE COMPENSATED THROUGH THOSE MITIGATION CREDITS AND THE BOROUGH PIT IS LEFT AS IS.

CURRENTLY AS AN AMENITY FOR THE PROJECT.

>> THANK YOU ALL USE THE SAME MAP AND TOUCH UP ON SOME OF THE ASPECTS WHEN WE DEAL WITH COMPATIBILITY IN THAT POLICY WITHIN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMPETENCY PLAN THAT GIVES US GUIDANCE WHEN WE ARE CONSIDERING REZONING.

GERMANY WALKED THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPONENTS WILL LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY, NO ONE AS A POLICY DESCRIBES, COMPATIBILITY DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME AS.

WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT FOLKS IN THIS ROOM, WITH COMPATIBLE IN THAT SENSE WE WALK THROUGH. THERE ARE ASPECTS OF WHAT COULD BE OVER TIMES, DEVELOPMENT FUTURE THAT WOULD NOT THEN BE COMPATIBLE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DETERMINED TO BE A

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WILL SUB STORMWATER POND FOR THE DRAINAGE SPECIFICALLY ITSELF. THEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING STRUCTURES BUT WEATHERS MORE PEOPLE IN A DENSE AREA NEXT TO A LOWER DENSITY AREA, WITH GOOD HEIGHT AND THEN THE NUMBER. HEIGHT IS HIS PLAN SHOWS US, WE PUT IN FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PCA, TO HAVE THAT REDUCED BUILDING HEIGHT ZONE GENERALLY ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROJECT SO THAT BUILDINGS ONE AND NINE OTHER THREE-STORY AND YOU CAN SEE THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDINGS ARE FOUR-STORY, GENERALLY WON'T TALK ABOUT HEIGHT WOULD LIKE TO USE FEET MEASUREMENTS US THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE GIVES US THAT MEASURE TO MEASURE IN FEET BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WE TALK ABOUT STORIES.

THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDINGS ON SITE WOULD BE PROPOSED THAT FOR STORIES. THEN THE REDUCED BUILDING HEIGHT ZONE AT A THREE-STORY MOUNT AT THE 50 FOOT LEVEL THAT YOU SEE WILL GO BACK INTO MEASURING HEIGHT OF 50 FEET.

WE START TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT USES.

WE LOOK AT HEIGHT, PLACEMENT, LET'S MOVE IN WORK WITH THE BUILDING SETBACKS. THE STATE ROAD 312 EXTENSION GRANTED THE ROADWAY IS NOT A WILL IN A 510 YEAR PROGRAM.

THE PLAN FOR THAT. HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THAT? WE CONSTRUCT AND HAVE A BERM THAT WOULD SEGREGATE AGAIN, HE EXISTING BOROUGH PIT THIS IS ALL PROPERTY AND OF PROPERTY IN THE STATE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WILL CREATE THE GREENERY AROUND THE STATE THAT JUST TO REMODEL THE BOROUGH PIT.ITH SOME TESTIMONY ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE POND NOW.

EXISTING CONDITIONS AS THE 12 ACRE BOROUGH PIT AREA.

IN SOME PLACES COMES CLOSE TO STATE ROUTE 16 IN THE AREA, IT WILL BE REMODELED OR FILLED IN, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REGULATORY PLAN AND THIS PLAN.

AGAIN WE LOOK AT USES AND REPLACE THEM WE TALK ABOUT LET'S HAVE HEIGHTS AND ARRANGE IT WOULD BE NOT DISTURBING WHERE YOUR PRIVACY WOULD BE INTERRUPTED OR YOUR CREATING NOISE IN A MANNER THAT WOULD BE DISCONTINUOUS AND COMMUNICATE SEPARATED BY FUTURE REDWOOD, BURMA, LANDSCAPING, REDUCED BUILDING HEIGHT. WE PLACED OUR CONNECTION POINTS TO FORMAL ROAD AND STATE ROUTE 16 IN A MANNER THAT FITS THE STATE ROUTE 16, DUE TO REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND AGAIN, LINDA VELMA CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR WHERE WE PLACED ACCESS POINTS SO THAT WE MEET THE SEPARATION STANDARDS TO THE OTHER EXISTING ACCESS THAT WE STAY ON THE SITE. THOSE ARE THE COMPONENTS IN THE REMAINDER THIS COMPATIBILITY ISN'T THE SAME AS WE NEVER HAVE DIFFERENCES AT ALL AND IT DOES MITIGATE WHAT YOU LOOK FOR COMPATIBILITY AND AND HOW THEY ADDRESSED AND LANDSCAPING ARCHITECTURAL STYLE BUILDING HEIGHT AND SIMILAR NATURE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOLKS TREND BUT WE'RE DOING FOLKS DOING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU GO BACK AND FORTH WAY YOU LOOK OR GO TO SCHOOL AND WE SEEK OUT TO HAVE RECREATION ACTIVITIES OF THE HIGH POINTS OF 24 COMPATIBILITY AND QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE? >> LINDSAY HIT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE TIME THAT THIS BOARD AND RESIDENTS HAVE SPENT WITH US, WORD RESIDENCE AT PZA. SOMETIMES I THINK WE DO LISTEN BUT WE ACTUALLY DO. AND SO, AFTER PZA, WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION IN OUR TEAM AND SO, AS LINDSAY JUST TALKED ABOUT, THERE HAS BEEN A PROFFER AND WE ARE PROFFERING TITE THE REDUCTION IN BUILDING HEIGHT OF THE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND SO, THAT AGAIN, I WILL PUT THIS MAP UP. IF WE COULD HAVE THE OVERHEAD.

THESE TWO BUILDINGS WILL BE 50 FEET IN HEIGHT, NOT 60 FEET IN HEIGHT. THAT IS FOLLOWING THE PZA.

WE WOULD ALSO PROPOSE TO REDUCE THE MULTIFAMILY DENSITY OF THE PROJECT FROM 405 UNITS TO 305 UNITS.

WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A TRIP REDUCTION FROM 158 PEAK HOUR TRIPS TO 119 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. WILL HAVE THOMAS TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ORIENTED OR RESULTING FROM THAT OR THE DECREASE IN TRAFFIC IN A MINUTE. BUT JUST GOING BACK TO THE PUD TEXT, AND I DO, I'M A LAWYER AND LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WORDS.

THIS WOULD MEAN THAT THE PUD TEXT WOULD SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 305 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

OR A MAXIMUM OF 95,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USE, OR A COMBINATION THEREOF WITH TRIP GENERATION, NOT TO EXCEED 250

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DOWN TO 250 FOR THE MIXED USE OPTION.

THE WORD OR MEANS, ONE OR THE OTHER OR THE OTHER.

NO COMBINATION. SO, IT IS EITHER 205 OR 95,000 OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF, NOT TO EXCEED 250 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS. THE APPLICANT HAS INCLUDED FLAGLER COLLEGE AND IT ITS EMPLOYERS.

WE ARE HAPPY TO LIFT ST. JOHNS RIVER STATE COLLEGE EMPLOYEES AND STUDENTS IN THE LIST, IF THE COLLEGE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY. THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE PREFERRED EMPLOYER LIST WOULD HAVE A WAIVED APPLICATION FEE, AND ONE MONTH RENT FOR TWO YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THE FIRST BUILDING RECEIVING A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FROM THE COUNTY.

THE APPLICANT WILL AGREE TO DELETE THE PARKING WAIVER SO THAT TAKES ONE WAIVER OUT OF THE PUD.

THEN, AGAIN, THE LAST THING WOULD BE THE 20 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT IS ALONG FOR MY WORK HAS AN APPROXIMATE VALUE OF 195,000, THAT WILL BE DONATED, NO IMPACT FEE CREDITS ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE WIDENING OF FORMAL ROAD.

GOING BACK ALSO, TO THE IDEA THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BRING ABOUT $3 MILLION WORTH OF TRANSPORTATION PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND WHAT IMPACT FEE CREDITS COMBINED.

AND THAT IS ENOUGH TO BUILD WHAT I WILL CALL THE THIRD LANE OF FORMAL ROAD TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS THAT EXPRESSED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

THOMAS, IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE TRIP REDUCTION AND ALL OF YOUR SCIENCE BEHIND THAT, THAT WOULD

BE GREAT. >> FIRST I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF.

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. THOMAS HATCHER, TRAFFIC ENGINEER. -- 14775 -- JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. ONCE WE DECREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM FORTUNE 5 TO 305, THE NUMBER OF LINKS ARE PROJECT TRAFFIC EXCEEDS THE ONE PERCENT THRESHOLD, GOES FROM FIVE LINKS, TO ONLY TWO LINKS SECTION OF FORMAL ROAD.

IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT.

AND THEN STATE ROUTE 16 JUST EAST OF I-95.

AGAIN TO REITERATE, THE IMPACT FEES FROM THE PROJECT WOULD LIKELY BE ENOUGH FOR THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS A FOUR MILE ROAD AND WE PROJECT THAT WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WOULD HANDLE THE PROJECT TRAFFIC.

>> AND SO WITH THAT, WE WILL PROFFER THESE WHAT I JUST READ IN WRITING FOR THE RECORD. SO THAT WE ARE ALL CLEAR ABOUT WHAT CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO THE PUD TEXT, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED ON THESE TWO PIECES.

I AM HAPPY TO PUT THEM UP ONE AT A TIME OR READ THEM OR WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU GUYS.UR CHAIRMAN IS IN CONFERENCE WITH SOMEONE FROM STAFF. SHORT OF JUST SINGING AND DANCING TO PASS THE TIME WE WILL COME BACK.

>> LET ME REVIEW THIS YEAR. HELP ME OUT.

IT JUST SO HAPPENS, EVEN THOUGH I LIVE IN ANASTASIA ISLAND, MY SHORTCUT TO 16 AND 95 IS US1 ALICIA FOUR MILE, 16, I'M THERE. THE FASTEST ROUTE.

INSTEAD OF GOING TO 207. ABOUT TWICE A WEEK I HAVE A REASON TO BE EITHER ON FOUR MILE AND STARTED TO SORT OF MAKE THE RIGHT HAND TURN ON KENTON MORRISON.

THIS BECOMING A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVE.

THE POINT BEING, I MAY NOT BE AN EXPERT, BUT WITH EXPERIENCE, FOR YEARS, FOUR MILE ROAD IS REALLY REALLY GOTTEN REAL CONGESTION HEADING NORTH APPROACHING 16, THERE WILL BE

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SEVERAL PEOPLE SPOKE TO THAT. MY QUESTION THAT I HAVEN'T REALLY GOT CLEAR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO FORM A ROAD BUT IN ALL ASKED THE STAFF TO WEIGH IN BUT YOU MAY KNOW.

DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANY PLANS AT ALL, IN THE WORK PLAN, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FUNDED TO DO FOR MY RIDE BECAUSE I KEEP GOING BACK AND I'VE TRIED TO BE CONSISTENT OVER THE YEARS ON THE COMMISSION. THAT MY POSITION IS, TO TEST COMPATIBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT PROPOSALS. AND WHEN IT TOOK OVER INFRASTRUCTURE, WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY IN PRIOR TO VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN THREE, FIVE, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS. I WANT TO KNOW THE NEXUS BETWEEN THIS PROJECT AND WHEN FOUR MILE ROAD WILL BE FOUR LANES. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? AND MAYBE STAFF CAN WEIGH IN. THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

>> I CAN ADJUST THAT. AGAIN, WE CAN HAVE MR. HATCHER, THE TRAFFIC EXPERT TESTIFIED. OUR GOAL IN THIS, WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 405 MAXIMUM TWO HUNDRED FIVE MAXIMUM. THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND RUN IMPACT FEES FROM THE PROJECT ALONE SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO DO THE WIDENING OF FOUR MILE ROAD, AS YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED IN YOUR ONE CENT SALES TAX WILL CALL IT LIST.

YOUR DESIRED PUBLIC LIST FROM THE ONE CENT SALES TAX INCLUDES A SEGMENT OF FORMAL ROAD. IMPROVEMENT.

YOU CAN STRIKE THAT OFF YOUR LIST.

HOPING SALES TAX GETS APPROVED BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US. YOU CAN CROSS OFF THE LIST BY ALLOCATING THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE ANDROID IMPACT FEES FROM THIS PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY TO FORMAL ROAD.

THE FUNDS FROM THIS PROJECT WILL GET PAID AND WE CAN TALK TO MR. -- ABOUT WHEN HE WAS TO PPAY THEM.

BUT THEY WILL BE PAID UNDER CURRENCY AND IMPACT THE CREDIT AGREEMENT. THESE WILL BE MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL.

WHICH GIVES YOU THAT MONEY THEN, TO DO WHAT YOUR STAFF WILL WITH THAT MONEY TO FIX FORMAL ROAD.

>> JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

THE PROJECT LISTED ON THE LIST IS FOR THE INTERSECTION OF 16 AND FORMAL ROAD TO WIDEN THE APPROACH ON FORMAL ROAD AS YOU ARE GOING NORTHWEST BOUND TO THE INTERSECTION OF STATE ROAD 16, TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL TURN LANE GOING NORTHWEST, AS YOU KNOW TRAFFIC BACKS UP. SOUTH COME AS I CANNOT MAKE THE NORTHWEST TURN LEFT. PROVIDE ANOTHER TURN.

>> I CAUGHT THAT IN THE PRESENTATION ADDING INTERNALLY BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE STRETCH OF FOUR MILE, BEING FOUR LANES AS YOU HEAD NORTH. DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF ON THAT? CAN YOU ADDRESS? TALK ABOUT THE TIMING IF IN

FACT IF IS IN ANY TIMETABLE. >> WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE, THERE'S A STUDY PUBLIC WORKS IS DONE ABOUT THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD, THERE'S NO FUNDING CURRENTLY ALLOCATED FOR THAT.

IN ADDITION, PART OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD DO TO MOVE FORWARD IT IS LISTED ON THE ONE CENT SALES TAX.

WE WOULD HAVE TO ALSO PROCURE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG THE REST OF THE STRETCH OF ROAD FOR THEM BUT IT IS A ONE CENT SALES TAX ON THE LIST OF PART OF HOWEVER IS NO CURRENT FUNDING ALLOCATED TOWARD THAT. WE ONLY HAVE A STUDY FOR THIS SO FAR NO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING OR ANYTHING.

>> THANK YOU.ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

[INAUDIBLE] SO SORRY! IS THERE AN OPTION TO ELIMINATE THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT ON FORMAL ROAD?

>> I WILL HAVE TO ASK -- >> SO WE ARE NOT DUMPING ONTO

THAT. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD LET ME ASK OUR CLIENT. JUST A MINUTE.

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>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

IT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT. I'M HEARING ALL THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO DID A FANTASTIC JOB SETTING OUR COMPANY IS A PLANNED BACK TO US.

I'M ALSO LOOKING THE STAFF REPORT WHICH SAYS THIS WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2007 PETER SUDERMAN STAFF TO TELL ME WHEN TO THIS PUD EXPIRE? THIS WAS ONCE ENVISIONED AS A PARCEL THAT WILL CONTAIN 95,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL.

WITH ALL THE TRIPS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT 95,000 SQUARE FEET.

IF SO COULD PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHEN DID -- KNOW SIX PART NUMBER DOES NOT LIKE THIS PARCEL WAS EVER IN CONSERVATION OR THOUGHT TO BE PARK AND RECREATION SPACE.

THIS WAS APPROVED TO BE CLEAR-CUT AND BUILT.

IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE BOARD, NOT US BUT -- MISS

BISHOP, THANK YOU. >> TRACY BISHOP, GROWTH MANAGEMENT. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE WHEN EXPIRE MOST OF THE PMDS BENEFIT OF FIVE OR 10 YEAR TIME PERIOD. IT WOULD'VE EXPIRED, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING LEGISLATIVE EXTENSIONS THAT CAME IN.

>> PERHAPS AS LONG GOES 2012 EXPIRED.

MAYBE AS RECENTLY AS 2007. >> POSSIBLY, YES SIR.

>> OKAY, MR. -- HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

TRUSTING BUT VERIFYING WITH YOU, OUR PAID STAFF COME EXPERT IN TRAFFIC FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THE MONEY FROM PROPORTIONATE SHARE, THAT IS ENOUGH TO DO, ARE THEY DOING THREE LANES ON ALL OF FORMAL ROAD WITH THE MONEY? HOW MUCH THREE LANES DOESN'T

GET US? >> I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW MUCH, THEY WILL BE SINGLE MODIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO GO IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL ASPHALT AND THEORETICALLY SHOULD COVER IT, THERE'S A LARGE CHUNK ACROSS A SINGLE MODIFICATION AS WELL. THE LENGTHY TO PAPERS BASED OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW. IT'S EXPECTED FOR A CERTAIN BILL THAT YOUR SO IT SHOULD COVER ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.

NOT ANY DRASTIC CHANGES LIKE IN THE RECENT PAST WITH

CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. >> IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, FRESHENER BLOCKER, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO, SIR. >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> YES. BASED ON MY OPINION AND COMPATIBILITY ABOUT THIS, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE A HUGE NEED FOR THIS HOUSING TYPE.

IT'S JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE. WE NEED MORE MULTIFAMILY.

WE HAVE A SHORTAGE AND SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

I MOVED TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2022 Ã66 APPROVING PUD 22 Ã08 FERBER STATE ROAD 60 BASED ON FUNDING THE EFFECT PROVIDED IN

THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MR. CHAIR? SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.

I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION IF THE MOTION INCLUDES THE SIX CHANGES PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT.

>> YES, REDUCTION IN DENSITY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHAIR FOR CRAIG. THE REPRESENTATIONS RECORDS IN THE FLOOR, DISTRIBUTORS FOR 405 TO 305, EITHER OR, THAT'S ALL

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BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD TODAY? >> YES, THE LENDER HAS BEEN

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>> OKAY. >> IT WILL BE.> THIS IT WILL BE, BASED ON YOUR MOTION IF IT PASSES.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE PROJECT. VOICE VOTE.

NUMBER ONE. THUS TRY TO GET TO NUMBER TWO

BEFORE WE GET TO THE NOON HOUR. >> WHAT DID HE SAY?

>> I DIDN'T HEAR. >> IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? PRESENT?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AND SENT AN EMAIL TO STAFF AND COMMISSION WITHDRAWING THIS APPLICATION. I DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER

INFORMATION BEYOND THAT. >> AND THERE'S NO ONE HERE, EITHER THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OR THE APPLICANT QUOTE UNQUOTE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

IS ANYONE HERE OTHER THAN ELLEN, WHO NO LONGER REPRESENTS THE CLIENT. ANYONE HERE EITHER THE OWNER THE AGENT, WHAT'S IT CALLED? THE MORAL POINT PROJECT.

-- THE LAUREL POINT PROJECT. CAN VOTE TO WITHDRAW OKAY?

>> US AND BECAUSE BEEN ADVERTISED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, THEY DO REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE OARD WITHDRAW.

>> WE NEED TO ACT ON THAT. IF THERE'S NO ONE HERE PRESENT, WE WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND SEE IF THERE'S DISCUSSION AND VOTE TO REQUEST THE BOARD WITH THE PUBLIC COME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> JOE -- 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE. I WAS PREPARED TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROJECT BUT I WILL MOVE THAT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU MOVE

THAT IT BE WITHDRAWN. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR? >> CHARLIE HUNT FROM -- AND IT IS GOOD TO SEE THAT THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS TOTALLY WITHDRAWN. FOR MANY MORE ACTION BECAUSE WHERE IS LOCATED, 16, THEY WANT TO PUT 175 HAS THE PROPERTY, SUSPEND OF THE PROPERTY ACROSS FROM THE GREAT GRAND OAKS RIGHT THERE WHO'S PREDICTED ABOUT $15 MILLION INTO IMPROVEMENT OF 16.

AND THEN, JUST ACROSS FROM THE IS ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO PUT IN NORWOOD, WHICH IS ANOTHER 300 HOUSES THAT MIGHT ACT AS A REAR ACCESS POINT INTO THE GRAND OAKS.

AND DOWN THE LINE, THERE IS JUST MORE HOUSES GOING IN.

16 IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH IT. IT'S NOT, IT NEEDS TO STOP.

THE REPORT, YES. THAT WAS FINE.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MOVED INTO THAT TACOMA PINES, SAYING THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE PROPERTY BEHIND THEM WAS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT WAS TOTAL REAL ESTATE AGENTS THAT IT WAS ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTED.

ENVIRONMENTALLY CONCERNED. SO, BUT YEAH.

THIS IS GOING DOWN TO NORWOOD AND SO FORTH AND SO ON DOWN THE ROAD. ANY AND EVERYTHING ON 16 IS JUST OUTRAGEOUS. -- AND 16, THAT'S WHAT IT WILL EXTEND TO BECAUSE THIS WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT FROM 22 OR NOT WHICH IS THE BIG EXCUSE, MORE DEVELOPERS IN THERE.

THIS IS NO EFFECT. FROM GRAND OAKS, THEY SHOULD BE

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>> ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A COME ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU. >> LET ME JUST ADD SINCE ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS TO DENY AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

PUBLIC COMMENT. BASED ON MY REVIEW THIS PROJECT I THINK WILL GREATLY EXACERBATE HIGHWAY 16 THAT WE DISCUSSED AT

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A MOTION IS NOT A PROJECT. >> I WERE TO DENY TRANSMITTAL OF 2021 Ã12 LAUREL POINT BASED ON POOR FUNDS EFFECT PROVIDED

IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> VOICE VOTE.

YES OR NO? >> YES, SIR.

>> I VOTE YES ALSO SO THAT PASSES, 4-0.

MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT? THAT LEAVES US ITEM THREE. ITEM 3.

KEEP MOVING IT IS 11:35 AM. ANYONE HERE IN ITEM 3? TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR STATE ROAD 207 AND WILDWOOD SELF STORAGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

ST. JOHN'S LAW GROUP, WHAT A GREAT JOB HE DID GETTING INFORMATION AND IN THE HURRICANES.

JUST FANTASTIC, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WAS ON FACEBOOK AND ON LIVE STREAMING I THINK QUITE A NUMBER OF TIMES AND HE ALWAYS THERE PARTICIPATING IT WAS PRETTY FANTASTIC TO SEE.

GREAT ACTION THEY TOOK THIS MORNING.

IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT TONIGHT, THE PEER WHICH IS A PRETTY NEAT CELTIC CLASSIC CAR MUSEUM, THE FIREMEN MIKE RILEY INJURED RELATED TO THE FUEL STATION ON STATE ROAD 16.

SHOULD BE A PRETTY NEAT EVENT. >> THIS IS FOR ASH PROPERTIES.

HOPEFULLY MY POWERPOINT WILL START.

IT STOPPED LIKING ME. THERE WE GO.ASH PROPERTIES AS YOU KNOW, A LOCAL LEADER IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'VE BEEN AROUND 40 YEARS NOW.

THE NUMBER IS 12 MILLION FEET OF PROPERTY AND GROWING.

THIS PROJECT AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES WHERE WE NEED TO ADDRESS EVERY NOW AND THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN THEN DEVELOP A CODE DOESN'T CONTEMPLATE EVERY SCENARIO AND THAT'S WHY THIS COMING THROUGH FOR YOU IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION. THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT MIDWAY ON 207 BETWEEN 95 CLOSE TO WILDWOOD DRUG RECEIPT THERE NEAR STEPHANIE LANE. DISSECTION ESTATE RETURNED AND SEVEN, WE CAN ALSO SEE BREAKER FOR WHICH IS NOT FULLY CONSTRUCTED A COUPLE F THINGS NOT THIS IS ONE OF OUR COUNTIES LARGEST MUST DEVELOP REGIONAL PARKS.

THE SITE IN THE RED IS A NEW PUBLIC FACILITY, SHADE THAT MORE DETAIL. KIND OF BORING YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THE NEW PUBLIX CONSTRUCTION TALKING ABOUT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT LOCATION.

THIS IS FROM THE WEBSITE. THEY CALL IT TREAYY OAKS MARKETPLACE. I THINK THE SIGNS ARE UP NOW THAT IT IS PUBLIX, WE CAN SEE LOOKING AT AN AERIAL, THERE IS OUT PARCELS IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIX SITE MORE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE LOCATION. LOOKING AT OUR SITE LITERALLY DEAD CENTER OF THE PHOTO, YOU CAN SEE THE PINK OUTLINE THERE.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN A SWATH OF MIXED-USE ON FUTURE LAND USE

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THEY CAN BE BUILT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT OF A BIT AND THROUGH SELF RELATIONS CONVENIENCE STORE INDUSTRY IS GOING TO WHAT WE SEE NOW. EVERY CAN BE USED OR IT SEEMS THAT BEING BUILT BETTER AND BETTER ARCHITECTURE.

ASH PROPERTIES IS REALLY LEADING THE WAY ON THAT.

THE SELF STORAGE WORLD AS WELL. THIS IS ON A PERSONAL PROPERTY MINI WAREHOUSE ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UNDER COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. ON MIXED-USE, THEY ALLOW ANY NUMBER OF USES THAT ARE PRETTY DARN INTENSE, INTENSITY, HIGHLY COMMERCIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, SUBJECT TO POLICY. AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC SERVICE.

OUR STAFF AND WHY WE ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, UNDER MIXED-USE DISTRICT YOUR LIMITED TO 70 PERCENT.

IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT FLOOR TO AREA RATIO IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY HAS LOOKED AT EVERY FLOOR ADDED UP AND HOW IT SPREADS OVER THE PROPERTY. NOT WITHOUT THINK OF AS A LAYPERSON AS A FINISHED FLOOR AREA BEING THE FIRST FLOOR.

THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU APPLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TO THE SITE DATA TABLE YOU HAVE A 105,000 SQUARE-FOOT SITE. IT COULD BE 74,000 SQUARE FEET OF VERY INTENSE USE. AND GET PAST THAT.OOK AT THE STAFF REPORT. WE ARE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY OBVIOUSLY AS MIXED-USE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, NO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, THE COMPREHENSIVE NEED FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITY. AND ONLY REQUEST IS TO GET TO 120 PERCENT OF FLOOR AREA RATIO.

AND IT DOESN'T EXTENDED TO OTHER REQUESTS.

THIS WOULD APPLY TO ALL AROUND THE COUNTY, STRICTLY LIMITED TO THE SITE. STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT CONCERN FOR THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND CONCERNED ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. WE THINK THAT WE HAVE MORE COMPATIBLE USE AND SOME OTHER ONES THAT WERE OUTLINE IN A MINUTE. THEY STAFF REPORT HIGHLIGHTS THAT MANY POINTS MADE BY THE APPLICANT ARE VALID.OW TRAFFIC, MANY USE ARE MORE NUISANCE ARE RELATED.

THERE'S A NUMBER, IF YOU TAKE SOME HIGHLIGHTS, HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL WOULD BE ONE OF THE USES.

IF THE HIGH INTENSITY USES WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE OUTDOOR, AFTER STORES LARGE DEMAND PARKING AND IMPACT.

ACTUAL POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THAT'S WHAT THIS ZONING TYPICALLY WOULD ALLOW FOR. HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL, VEHICLE SALES, TRUCK STOPS A NUMBER OF USES BUT BIG-BOX SUPPLIER RETAILERS LARGE-SCALE BUILDING SUPPLY CENTERS AND

[02:45:03]

AGAIN, MORE USES JUST A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT WILL BE ALLOWED IF YOU LOOK AT SELF STORAGE YOU GET MINIMUM TRAFFIC LESS PARKING DEMAND, REALLY NO CHANCE OF NURSES ON THE NEIGHBOR WITH SELF STORAGE THIS IS A GENERATION TABLE BUT IT HELPS TO SHOW YOU, YOU LOOK AT THOSE, LOOK AT THE NOISE FROM AN IMPACT, TIRE SALES AUTOMOBILE REPAIR FROM VEHICLES BACKING UP FOR THE PLANT NURSERY BUILDING SUPPLY YOU GET THAT BEEP ALL DAY LONG. BARKING DOGS FROM THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL. NOISE OF THE BODY SHOP.

THE TIRE GRINDER. PROBABLY AS LOUD IF NOT LOUDER.

NIGHT CLUBS AND BARS. FROM TRAFFIC COMPARISON.

THIS IS 20,000 SQUARE FEET. -- THE PM PEAK IS MORE SIGNIFICANT OF THE USE OF WATER PROPOSES.

REQUIRING THIS COULD CONTRIBUTE A MUCH LARGER SITE.

THESE ARE OTHER USES WITHIN THERE.

SO THEY DON'T RUN INTO THIS. STANDALONE PARSLEY RUN OF FORCING THE SELF STORAGE USER TO REQUIRE MORE PROPERTY THAN OTHERWISE WOULD BE NECESSARY. AGAIN, GO BACK TO SECURITY OF THE BUILDING IS ABSOLUTE PARAMOUNT.

PEOPLE CAN STORE THE GOODS, THINGS VALUABLE TO THEM IN A SELF STORAGE FACILITY SECURITIES THEY WANT UP WITH MANY SOCIAL PROBLEMS THAT YOU COULD HAVE NOT BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH SELF STORAGE. THERE ARE VARIANCES THAT WE CONTEMPLATE WITH THIS USE GOING ON THE SITE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE AND YOU SAID THE PARKING LOT WAS BUILDING, YOU CAN REALLY SEE JUST HOW QUICKLY FUME OF THE PARKING FIELD IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, JUST HOW BIG OF AN INTENSE USE YOU CAN HAVE ON THE SITE VERSUS SELF STORAGE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE LOW DEMAND FOR PARKING.

SURE, A LARGE BUILDING BUT NOT MUCH GOING ON.

LOOKING AT THE SITE I THINK THIS IS KEY FOR THIS APPLICATION. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITE, UNIQUE LOCATION. THIS IS THE PUBLIX GOING INTO NIGHTLY ACROSS THE STREET. YOU HAVE TWO OF THE BIG THINGS, ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION IS THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX BEING BUILT THERE.

NOT EVERYWHRE SAYS OUT PARCEL C IS A SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING UP TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE OF -- YOU HAVE 100 HOMES GOING IN LOCATION BUT ALSO JUST NORTH OF THE APARTMENTS SHOWN THIS AERIAL, IT IS A CENTER FOR MANUFACTURED MOBILE HOMES. MORE INTENSE USE.

DIRECTLY ADJACENT FOR OUR SITE, ALSO A AUTOMOBILE TOWING AND FACILITY THEN DUCK ASLEEP THEN EQUINE AND LARGE ANIMAL VETERINARIAN OFFICE. IT JUST FITS IN WITH THE AREA WORTH THAT, IT IS LESS INTENSE AND IT REALLY MITIGATES A BIT OF EXTRA SIZE FOR THE STRUCTURE.

WITH THAT, I'LL BE QUITE. I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN TRANSMITTING THIS. WE DID GET A FAVORABLE REPRESENTATION. QUICK SUPPORTING A PUBLIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA IN ITEM 3. ANYONE WITH A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE

COME FORWARD. >> JERRY BADGER 2772 S. COLLINS AVENUE. THIS DEVELOPER IS NOT TO SHAPE SHIFT BY THE LOCALS. MAYBE NOT TO THE COUNTY

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>> THANK YOU, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON

THE AGENDA ITEM? >> I'M HEARING ON AND SEEING

ON. >> ALL RIGHT.

THIS PROJECT IS IN DISTRICT 3. -- CAN NO LONGER BE WITH US.

SO I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM AND I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE TRANSMITTAL OF AMENDMENT 2022 Ã03 STATE ROAD 207 AND WILDWOOD SELF STORAGE AND FINDINGS OF FACT IN THE STAFF REPORT. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I CAN. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

VOICE VOTE.

SO IT PASSES FOUR ÃZERO. LET'S TRY TO TAKE UP FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. THEY ARE ALL RELATED THEN WE WILL CONSIDER IF AND WHEN WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK.

>> FOUR AND SIX ARE BOTH QUASIJUDICIAL.

>> FOR FIVE AND SIX. WE WILL DO EX PARTE.

>> ANYTHING? >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> NO, SIR, NO RECORD.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? NYTHING EX PARTE ON FOUR,

FIVE OR SIX? >> NO RECORD OF ANY MEETINGS.

>> I HAVE NONE. YES SIR, GOOD MORNING STILL I

THINK. >> GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. GARY DAVENPORT, 212 S. SHADOW WOOD. ATTORNEY REPRESENTING MRS. KAREN --, NOTED, THESE ARE COMPANIONS THAT GO TOGETHER SO KIND OF LUMP THEM TOGETHER I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.

SHE'S A LONG TIME LANDOWNER AND LIVES ON THIS PROPERTY.

THAT WE ARE DOING MODIFICATION TO THE DAY.

SHE'S A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER SHE'S NOT A DEVELOPER BASICALLY TRYING TO CREATE FAMILY BUSINESS HERE FOR HER AND HER CHILDREN. WE'VE HAD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.

WITH NO ONE PLANNING AND ZONING MORTAR RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT. WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. ONE IS TO REMOVE 6.5 ACRES FROM THE PUD. WILL BE 14 ACRES LEFT AT REMOVE THIS AND ONLY THREE HOMES ON THAT.

THE REQUIRED SIDES FOR THOSE LOTS.

AND THE REASON THAT IS SO BIG IS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER, THAT WAS HIS ESTATE HE KEPT FOR HIMSELF.

AND THEN -- SUBSEQUENTLY BOUGHT IT.

THEN A SMALL, MINIMUM IT TO CHANGE TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WHICH IS VERY LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL BUT ADEQUATE FOR STORAGE. THEN THE THIRD IS YOUR TYPICAL PUD FOR RV BOAT STORAGE. BASICALLY HERE'S -- PRETTY QUICK PLEASE STOP ME. HERE'S A LOCATION ON 16 A, PRETTY, USED TO BE A VERY RURAL, ACTUALLY DID MOSES USED TO BE A VERY RURAL AREA AS YOU CAN TELL, ALL OF THE OTHER ALONG 16 AND 16 A IS BECOMING QUITE ORGANIZED.

THIS IS ADJACENT TO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ERIC, THE VERY LARGE SUBSTATION THAT WAS BUILT.

TO THE RIGHT OF THE RED BOX. , THAT THE SUBSTATION THEY USED TO BE WOODS. WHICH WITH THE PROPERTY AND THE NATURE OF IT. A ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND LOOKS LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WITH ALL THE TREES OUT, SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED, THIS IS AN OUTLINE OF THE PUD WHICH IS NOT A LARGE PART OF IT. AGAIN, ZONING.

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YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LOT OF RECENT CHANGES AND RELIEF AS WELL. ADDED TO THIS THAT WASN'T THERE. THE REAR IS PUBLIX.

LITERALLY NO IMPACT OF THIS RV BOAT STORAGE JENNY JASON OWNER EXCEPT THE OWNER ITSELF. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AGAIN, WHAT WE HAVE THE SITE CHARACTERISTICS, WENT TO ALL THAT.

TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY IN MOBILE HOME THAT IS OWNED BY APPLICANT. BASICALLY, PROJECT MANAGER OR BUSINESS MANAGER WOULD BE RESIDING THERE.

PROPERTY FOR THE RV BOAT STORAGE, I WILL READ ALL TO, I WILL GET IT GATED AND SECURED, I'LL PROVIDE BUFFERS WITH THE NORTH WEST SECTOR PLAN. IT WILL HAVE ONE SITE RESIDENT LIVING THERE IS SOMETHING NEEDED ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THIS IMPROVED CREATE THIS DEMAND FOR THIS.

IT'S IN THE AREA WHERE DEMAND IS AT.

JUST WRITE DOWN THE STREET, THERE ARE PLACES -- THIS WILL BE THE PRD WHEN IT'S DONE. MAJOR MODIFICATIONS.

I THINK I'VE HIT ALL THESE POINTS BUT IS BASICALLY THE JUSTIFICATION. HIGH DEMAND, COMPLEMENTARY AND IT IS DIRECTLY ON A COLLECTOR ROADWAY.

FUTURE BUSINESS. THIS AGAIN, JUST HIGHLIGHT THE INTENSITY OF THE SUBSTATION BUILT NEXT TO IT.

WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL THE COMPATIBILITY, BUFFERS, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. WE BELIEVE IT IS COMPATIBLE.

ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND INDUSTRIAL.

THAT IS ALL. >> ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT ON FOUR, FIVE

AND SIX. >> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE NEED TO TAKE THIS UP AS

THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS? >> YES.

>> CALL FOR MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

>> MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022 Ã67.

-- >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND.

UNDERSTAND YOUR BACK WITH US? >> YES SIR.

I VOTE YES. >> YES BOOK?

>> YES SIR. >> THAT PASSES 5-0.

>> NUMBER FIVE. >> BY WOULD LIKE TO PASS AT

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ITEM NUMBER FIVE. >> WE WILL HAVE THE VOTE.

NOW NUMBER SIX. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022 >>NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF.

>>COMMISSIONER LOCKER? >>I HAVE NO RECORDS AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPONENTS.

>>I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPORT TO A THAT I REMEMBER OR HAVE LISTED. O WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE ON

TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. YES SIR? >>HELLO, I'M VINCENT GALLO.

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>>ANY QUESTIONS? PUBLIC COMMENT? >>WILL HEAR PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. SEEING NONE, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER SEVEN. >>COMMISSIONER WALDRON, THIS IS IN DISTRICT 3. WOULD YOU LIKE

TO MAKE A MOTION? >>YES SIR, A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 20 ÃÃÃIN THE SUN

>> >>70. >>REZONING 22 ÃTAPE GREEN REZONING. BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACTS THAT'S PROVIDED.

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>>SECOND. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >>YES PER >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>>YES POINT >>COMMISSIONER WATERS?>YES POINT

>>COMMISSIONER BACHER? >>YES. >>AND I VOTE YES PAID SO, THAT

PASSES 5Ä. THANK YOU, SIR. >>THANK YOU.

>>LET'S TO ITEM 8. ITEM 8 IS THE ÃÃANOTHER RESIDENCE.

SOMEONE HERE FOR EIGHT? >>YES SIR. >>MR. CHAIR? I JUST RECEIVED NOTICE THAT THE COUNCIL OF NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE ÃÃSAINT AUGUSTINE PLANNING MEETING IS ABOUT 10 MINUTES AWAY. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO

TAKE THIS AFTER LUNCH OR HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED? >>A AND NINE, WE WILL JUST HOLD OFF. I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE MORE TO DO AFTER LUNCH.

APPARENTLY. ALL >>IT'S 12:40. OKAY.

WE WILL RECONVENE. I THINK WE ARE ON NUMBER NINE. SOMEBODY HELP ME, IS THAT RIGHT? WE ARE ON EIGHT?OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT, YES.

I FORGOT. NUMBER EIGHT. >>MR. CHAIR?

>>THAT'S PART EIGHT. THAT'S PART EIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>>NO MR. CHAIRMAN. >>AND MR. CHAIR. >>I'VE KNOWN.

I'VE MR. WALDRON, ARE YOU BACK WITH US? >>YES, SIR.

>>ALL RIGHT, GOOD. ANY EXPORT THEY ON EIGHT?

CUSTOMÁ PAUL? >>NO, SIR, NONE. >COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, YOU BACK WITH THIS? MAYBE NOT.

SO, I HAVE ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] >>YES SIR, I AM AND I HAVE

NONE. >>THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I HAVE NONE.

MR. WHITE HOUSE? >>JAMES WHITE HOUSE. ST. JOHN'S LOCKER.

SEAGRAM MAIN STREET HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FLORIDA. I'M HERE BEFORE YOU ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THIS IS THE BITTER SAND DUNE RESIDENTS ZONING REQUEST.

THIS IS IN THE SAME AREA OF LOSS WHEN JUST LIKE THAT. I THINK NUMBER SEVEN BEFORE LUNCH. IT'S ON A ONE A SOUTH. PRETTY CLOSE TO ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS. IN ANY CASE, THIS IS THE LOCATION. IT'S IN RESIDENTIAL SEE LAND USE.

CURRENTLY AS YOU HEARD FROM THE LAST ONE, THIS STRIP ALONG HERE ÃÃTHERE'S A LOT OF PLACES WHERE THEY GO IN AND OUT FROM THE SOUTH FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO OUR HISTORY.

ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE ON EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE. THERE IS THAT WATER AND FACILITY AND WATER TOWER FACILITY. THIS IS THE LOT JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT AND THE NUMBER SEVEN THAT YOU JUST HEARD WAS JUST UP THIS WAY LITTLE BIT.

THE ONE THAT YOU REZONED TO RS THREE. THEY ARE ASKING TO GO TO OUR S3 AS WELL.GAIN, THIS IS AN AREA YOU CAN SEE THE WATER TOWER THERE.

THIS IS EAST MAGNOLIA. THIS IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OCEAN PALMS. SUBDIVISION PUD. GAIN, HERE IS AN AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.LL ALONG HERE ÃÃEVEN IN SOME OF THESE THAT ARE CG, BECAUSE THEY ARE GRANT IN THE WATER ZONING I BELIEVE.

TO THE ONES SOUTHEAST OF MAGNOLIA. RS THREE.

JUST AS THE GREEN REZONING WAS APPEAR ON THIS ONE. I BELIEVE.

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I CAN BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

>>COMMISSIONER? >>QUESTIONS. PUBLIC COMMENT?

>>AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

PLEASE COME FORWARD FOR B SAY NONE, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM 8.

>>COMMISSIONER WALDRON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 8?

>>YES SIR. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 22

⌟ >>71? >>22Ä2.

BETTER SAND DUNE RESIDENTS [INDISCERNIBLE] >>SECOND?

>>SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE WILL HAVE A VOICE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >>YES.

>>YES. >>COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >>YES.

>>AND I VOTE YES. SO, THAT PASSES 5Ä. AND THAT TAKES US TO NUMBER NINE AND ALSO EXPORT TO, THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE ON MY LIST.

[9. Public Hearing * REZ 2022-13 Vermillion Residence. ]

SO NUMBER NINE. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >>NONE MR. CHAIRMAN.

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >>HAVE COMMISSIONER WALDRON, X PARTAKE ON NINE?

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >>NONE. >>NO X PARTAKE.>NO X PARTAKE. SO, WE BEGAN ITEM NUMBER NINE. WHITE HOUSE?

>>MINIMUS JAMES WHITE HOUSE. 104 IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FLORIDA.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF MR. VERMILION, WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO A RESIDENCE IN THE SAME AREA.

THIS IS A LOT DUE NORTH OF THE LOT THEY JUST HEARD. A LOT OF THESE SLIDES ARE THE SAME BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S THE SAME REQUEST AND IT'S THE SAME AREA.

THIS BLOCK, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS THE WATER TOWER. THIS IS EAST MAGNOLIA.

THIS IS THE SAND DUNE AND RESIDENTS THAT YOU JUST REZONED.

THIS IS VERMILION'S PLOT THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO RESENT. OUR HISTORY AND GREEN LOT THAT REZONED ON NUMBER SEVEN IS IN THIS AREA. AGAIN, THE LAND-USE IS ÃÃTHE ZONING IS CG ASKING FOR OUR S3. LIKE I SAID FOR THE RESIDENTS ALONG THIS AREA THAT HAVE BEEN REZONED FROM CG OR GRANT WAGNER. THIS IS THE SAME ONE TO MEET YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND HISTORICALLY PRESENT DEVELOP IN THE AREA. AGAIN, I'M HERE AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU

MAY HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>PUBLIC, MR. CHAIR?

>>AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC,, FORWARD. SING ON, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE

PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. >>PAUL, WOULD YOU CARE TO MAKE

A MOTION ON NINE? >>YES, SIR. MOTION TO ENACT 2022 ÃÃÃ

>>72. >>2022Ä3. BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT

[10 . St. Johns County, Florida Water and Sewer Revenue Bonds, Series 2022 .]

ÃÃPROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >>IS THERE A SECOND?

>>SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >>YES.

>>WHITEHURST? >>YES. >>COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>>YES. >>AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >>YES.

>>I VOTE YES. THAT PASSES 5Ä ALSO.

RICK, DO NOT GO FAR. YOU ARE UP AFTER THIS NEXT ONE. JESSE?

>>GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN JEAN. JESSE DUNN, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET AND TODAY, WE ARE FOLLOWING UP FROM A MAY MEETING AND REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE UTILITIES SYSTEM FOR SOME INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN MAY. THE COMMISSION STAFF TO ASSEMBLE A FINANCE TEAM TO FACILITATE THE UTILITY BOND ISSUANCE TO FUND A CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. LARGELY RELATED TO THE STATE OF 207 CORRIDOR.

THAT'S THE EXTENT OF WHAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT. I'M GONNA HANG THIS OFF TO

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AND NOT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT INTEREST RATES AND OUR ABILITY TO REACT INTEREST RATE CHANGES. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PREPAY AT ALL. SO, MR. GLOVER IS PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THAT.

AND JUST AS WELL, WE ALSO HAVE BOMB COUNTS HERE WE GAVE NICKERSON.

WE HAVE MICHAEL SHARKEY AS WELL. QUESTIONS ARISE WITH THAT.

WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HANG THIS UP TO THE UTILITY DIRECTOR, COLLIN GROFF.

>>COLLIN GROFF, UTILITY DIRECTOR.

OPEFULLY WE GET A FEW SLIDES. [LAUGHTER] OKAY. Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS PROJECT SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE BRIEF. I DO WANT TO COVER THE PROJECT AND WHY WE ARE DOING IT. THERE IS A COPY OF THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE COMMITTED ABOUT EIGHT GALLONS WITH THE FLOW AND APPROVALS PERMITTED.

WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE TREATMENT FOR IN THE NEW FUTURE.

THAT'S THE REASON FOR GROWTH. GROWTH IS ARTIE BEEN APPROVED. NOT FUTURE GROWTH.

GROWTH HAS ARTIE BEEN APPROVED. THE SECOND REASON IS ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT AND THAT'S SENATE BILL 64. AS Y'ALL ARE AWARE. SENATE BILL 64 IS PASSED OVER A YEAR AGO. AND IT GIVES US TILL 2032 TO REMOVE ALL OF OUR SERVICE WATER DISCHARGES AND WASTEWATER PLANTS FROM SURFACE WATER. THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THAT PROJECT. THIS PROJECT WILL BE THE FIRST PROJECT.

IT'LL BE ABOUT 70 PERCENT OF WHAT WE ARE DISCHARGING AND ALL SURFACE WATER AFTER IT'S FINISHED. WE NEED THIS FINISHED NOW SO THAT WE CAN MEET THE 10 YEAR SCHEDULE. WE HAD THE TENURE PROJECT AFTER THIS BUILT TO MEET TACKLE AND THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS IS ULTIMATELY THIS PRODUCT WILL LEND OURSELVES TO TAKING THE SEWER FLOW. RIGHT NOW IT'S FLOWING FROM ALL THE MAIN AREAS.

OVER TO THE BARRIER ISLANDS AND BEING TREATED AND DISCHARGED IN THE RIVER.FF THE RIVER ÃÃ TAKING THAT SEWER WASTEWATER FROM UNDERNEATH THE RIVER AND TAKING IT OFF AND BRING ALL THE REUSABLE TRADING BACK INTO THE MAINLAND TO BE USED. IT'S REALLY HUGE ENVIRONMENTAL REASON FOR DOING THIS AND IT DOES MEET THAT CENTERVILLE. REAL QUICK ÃÃTHE PROJECT INCLUDES ABOUT 15 MILES OF REUSED PIPES AND ENFORCED MAINS AND ALSO A BRAND-NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT OF 3.25 MILLION GALLONS A DAY LOCATED IN THE 207 SITE.T WAS PURCHASED RECENTLY ON 207. WEST OF I-95. JUST PICTURE THE LAYOUT JUST AS WE WERE IN THE PLANNING AND DESIGN PHASE RIGHT NOW FOR THE PLANT.

AND THAT'S A QUICK LAYOUT AND AGAIN, WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED ALL THE BENEFIT OF PUTTING THE PLANT HERE. MAINLY OUR NEIGHBORS ARE INDUSTRIAL.

WE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE TWO NEIGHBORS. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE UTILITIES. ONE WEEK LOOK AT IS CAN WE DO THIS? WE ARE ABLE TO DO THIS AND INCREASE OUR DEBT SERVICE AND UTILITY TO FUND THIS PROJECT WITHOUT RAISING RATES. SO, WE'RE NOT HAVE TO RAISE RATES AND WE'RE KEEPING A VERY HEALTHY DEBT COVERAGE RATIO OF ONE OF OUR UTILITIES. AND JAKE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LITTLE BIT. THAT'S A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE UTILITY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GO OUT AND BORROW THIS MONEY. IT GIVES US VERY HIGH CREDIT RATINGS.

LIKE BEING ABLE TO DO THIS. SO, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS PROJECT WITHOUT INCREASING OUR RATES. WITHIN THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE.

SCHEDULE WISE, WE'VE DONE OUR PROPERTY ACQUISITION. WE ARE STILL GATHERING EASEMENTS FOR SOME OF THE PIPELINES THAT ARE STILL UNDERWAY.

WE ARE IN THE PLANNING DESIGN RIGHT NOW. WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF DESIGN MEETINGS ALREADY. ENGINEERS ARE WORKING ON THE DESIGN AND PIPELINES AND PAINT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT STARTING CONSTRUCTION WITHIN ABOUT A MONTH AND AND A HALF AND TWO MONTHS. WE WILL SEE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING ON SOME THINGS CLEARING. THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMPLETION DATE AT THE END OF NOVEMBER 2024. THAT'S A VERY QUICK INFLATION DATE.

BUT IT'S NEEDED TO MEET THE SCHEDULES FOR BOTH SENATE BILL 64 AND THE PERMITTED GROWTH THE 30 BEEN PERMITTED AND COMMITTED TO MEET THOSE TWO. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS POINT ON BY THAT POINT. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JAY.

LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FINANCIALS. >>THANKS COLLIN, CHAIRMAN, COMMISSION MEMBERS, J GLOVER FROM THE COUNTY P.M. WE'RE GONNA BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE PLAN OF FINANCE RIGHT HERE. AS JESSE MENTIONED THAT YOUR MAY 17 MEETING YOU ALL GIVE DIRECTION TO THE FINANCING TEAM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FINANCING PROCESS.

THAT REALLY INVOLVES A NUMBER OF THINGS. MOST IMPORTANTLY CREATING THE FINANCING DOCUMENTS THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER HERE TODAY. BUT IT ALSO IS PART OF THE PROCESS JUSTICE SEEKING UNDERLYING CREDIT RATINGS. SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE LOWEST COST OF FINANCING POSSIBLE. ANNA PLEASED TO REPORT TO YOU THAT THE COUNTY'S WATER AND SEWER AND CREDIT RATINGS HAVE BEEN RECENTLY APPROVED AS OF

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THE AAA RATING IS THE HIGHEST RATING POSSIBLE. BOTH OF THESE RATINGS ARE VERY STRONG AND PARTICULARLY THE AAA IS SOMETHING ELSE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF.

I WILL READ THESE WORD FOR PWORD, BUT I GUESS THERE'S FIVE BULLETS HERE THAT TALK ABOUT WHY YOU HAVE SUCH STRONG CREDIT RATINGS. IT TALKS ABOUT THE CUSTOMER BASE BEING WRONG AND WATER AND SEWER RATES ARE AFFORDABLE FOR THE AREA.

STRONG DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIOS, WHICH COLLIN TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

STRONG LIQUIDITY LEVELS. YOU HAVE PLACEMENTS IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. A HURRICANE THAT JUST CAME TO HER AND WELL DEFINED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND THE UTILITY SYSTEMS. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT GO TO THE CREDIT RATING AND ALLOW US TO ACHIEVE THE LOWEST COST POSSIBLE IN THE GIVEN MARKET CONDITIONS. SPEAKING OF MARKET CONDITIONS Ã ÃWE'VE STRUCTURED THIS DEBT FOR 30 YEAR LEVEL REPAYMENT. O, THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT WILL BE A LEVEL OF 30 YEARS.

IVEN A LONG USEFUL LIFE OF THIS PROJECT, IT'S OBVIOUSLY COMMON TO FINANCE THEM OVER THE SAME TURN. BASED ON CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS, WE ARE EXPECTING A 4.75 PERCENT. ALL INTEREST COST AND THERE'S NO DENYING THAT THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN RATES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYBODY'S SHOCK THAT INTEREST RATES HAVE RISEN OVER THE LAST REALLY IN PARTICULAR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS WITH THE PERSISTENT INFLATION AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE CONTINUES TO TAKE ACTION TO RAISE INTEREST RATES. ND THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR AND POTENTIALLY INTO NEXT YEAR. SO, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT SOMEWHAT AHEAD OF THE AND MITIGATE THIS FURTHER RATE INCREASES. BUT OBVIOUSLY, GETTING TOO FAR AHEAD OF IT IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROJECT COST AND THE IRS REQUIRES YOU TO SPEND THE PROCEEDS OF A TAX-EXEMPT FINANCING WITHIN A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME. WE REALLY TRY TO TIME THIS BASED ON SORT OF MARKET CONDITIONS AS WELL AS THE SPEND DOWN FOR THE PROJECT. AS JESSE MENTIONED, IT'S PRETTY STANDARD IN THE MARKET THAT WE PUT CALL PROVISIONS ON THESE LOANS AND THIS ONE WILL HAVE A 10 YEAR CALL. AFTER 10 YEARS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PREPAY OR REFUND OR REFINANCE THIS LOAN WITH NO PENALTIES. SO, IN LOWER INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENTS, THAT'S LESS IMPORTANT, BUT DURING AHIGHER INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT LIKE WE ARE SAYING TODAY ÃÃIT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT CALL FLEXIBILITY.

SO, IT'S LIKELY THAT THESE BONDS WILL BE REFUNDED AFTER 10 YEARS AND OBVIOUSLY, LOWER THE DEBT SERVICE COST FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OF THE FINANCING. SO, WE DO BUILD FLEXIBLY INTO THIS PLAN OF FINANCE. WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO TODAY IS OBVIOUSLY, APPROVED THE BOND RESOLUTION, WHICH DOES A FEW THINGS.

IT AUTHORIZES THE ISSUE OF THE BONDS AND PLEDGES NET REVENUES OF THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM TO REPAY INVESTORS. IT PROVIDES FOR COMPETITIVE SALE OF THE BONDS.

SO, WE WILL ACTUALLY ADVERTISE THAT THE COUNTY IS EXCEPTING COMPETITIVE BIDS TO BUY THESE BONDS. ON A SPECIFIC DATE AND TIME. AND THERE WILL BE AWARDED TO THE BID OFFERING THE LOWEST TRUE INTEREST COST. AGAIN, MECHANISM THE LOWEST COST POSSIBLE. AND THE FINAL THING THAT IT DOES IS THAT IT APPROVES THE FORM OF VARIOUS OTHER DOCUMENTS. INCLUDING THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, THE NOTICE OF SALE AND AGAIN IT ANNOUNCES THE SALE.

THE CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AND PAINT AGENT AGREEMENT. THOSE ARE ALL EXHIBITS TO THE RESOLUTIONS BEFORE YOU TODAY AND ARE BEING APPROVED SUBSTANTIALLY FINAL FORM.

THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION TEXAS WE GET APPROVAL HERE TODAY ÃTHIS WILL TAKE THOSE COMPETITIVE BIDS ON OCTOBER 18. AND THE TRANSACTION WOULD CLOSE THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 31.

SO, WE ARE ANXIOUS TO GET TO THE MARKET. REALLY TO FURTHER MITIGATE INTEREST RATE INCREASES ÃÃ ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE ELECTION ON THAT'S HAPPENING IN NOVEMBER. IT'S REALLY MY GUESS AS TO WHAT THE OUTCOME OF INTEREST RATES ARE MOVING FORWARD. SO, I THINK THE LAST SLIDE HERE IS THE REQUEST OF BOARD ACTION.

UT I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.

>>ANY QUESTIONS? >>I APPRECIATE FORECAST AN INTEREST RATE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP IN THE NEXT SIX OR 12 FOR 18 MONTHS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION WILL BE. IS THERE ANY WISDOM IN WAITING TO SEE INTEREST RATES COOL OR IS THE NEED FOR CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT SUCH THAT WE NEED TO ACT ON THIS NOW? NOT SURE THAT'S A BETTER QUESTION MR. GROFF, BUT APPRECIATE ANY INSIGHT

PROVIDED. >>YES, I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST I THINK WE ADDRESS THE TIME NEEDS ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECT ITSELF. PBUT YOU KNOW? AS A FINANCIAL ADVISOR JUST AS I BY NATURE, AND CONSERVATIVE. I'M ALWAYS KIND OF A BIRD AND

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I'M NOT GONNA DENY THAT THEY COULD BE, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UPSIDE RISK IN TERMS OF INTEREST RATES. IF YOU LOOK BACK HISTORICALLY, BORROWING 30 YEARS FIXED RATE IS SOMEWHAT UNDER FIVE PERCENT IS NOT A BAD INTEREST RATE. WE HAVE ALL JUST BECOMES BOLD FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. MYSELF INCLUDED WITH THESE ULTRA LOW INTEREST RATES THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST THREE, FIVE, 10 YEARS. MY GUT TELLS ME THAT THIS IS SOMEWHAT THE NEW NORM. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL SEE THOSE TWO AND THREE PERCENT INTEREST RATES IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. BUT I HAVE BEEN WRONG BEFORE AND I FIND KNEW WHAT RATES WERE GONNA DO, I COULD TELL PEOPLE, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE HERE.

I WILL PROBABLY OUT ON A BOOK SOMEWHERE IN YOUR HARBOR HERE. SO ÃÃ

[LAUGHTER] >>THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. >>THIS IS JUST A QUESTION.

OUT OF CURIOSITY. I USED TO PLAY IN THIS AGREEMENT YEARS AGO.

DURING MY WATER MANAGEMENT DAYS. BUT JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY ÃÃ THERE'S NOT OPTION TO DO ALL OR PART OF THIS FUNDING THROUGH THE DEP REVOLVING ACCOUNT ÃÃI

MEAN, I'VE LOST TRACK. CAN Y'ALL ADDRESS THAT? >>ALL START ADDRESSING THAT.

SO, WE HAVE THEM SRE FUNDING WRITTEN UP AND WHICH IS THROUGH DEP.

WE DON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND SOME OF THE GRANT MONEY FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT. SO OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE SR FUNDING.

IF YOU LOOK AT ALL INTEREST RATES WITH ALL THE EXTRA COSTS THAT GO WITH IT ÃÃIT'S THE SAME AS GOING ON THE MARKET OR HIGHER.E ARE EXPERIENCING THAT NOW.

YES, NONFINANCIAL PERSON ANSWER. AS UTILITY PERSON.

JAY MAY WANT TO ANSWER LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE HE'S THE FINANCIAL GUY.

>>YES. I AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID. I ALSO WILL TELL YOU THAT THE SRF PROGRAM DOES HAVE SEGMENT TO PRODUCE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDING AVAILABLE AND IT'S USUALLY NOT ENOUGH FUNDING FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET FUNDING IN SEVERAL YEARS OVER TIME TO PAY FOR PROJECT LIKE THIS. WORK FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

BUT I AGREE ÃÃTHERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND NOT ONLY DRIVE UP INTEREST COST, BUT THEY ALSO POTENTIALLY DRIVE UP THE COST OF THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY REQUIRE YOU TO DO ON THE PROJECT. BUT WE DO LOOK AT ALL THE FINANCING OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY. HIS FEDERAL PROGRAMS AS WELL AS STATE PROGRAMS AND THIS ENVIRONMENT ÃAS WE FELT LIKE THIS ROUTE WAS THE MOST ECONOMICAL TO DO TAKING ALL

THIS FACTORS INTO CONSIDERATION. >>I THOUGHT THE 130 MILLION WAS

PRETTY HOT FOR QUALIFYING COULD >>WANT TO SAY IS MAYBE A 15 OR $18 MILLION SEGMENT.

YOU HAVE TO GET FUNDING OVER MULTIPLE YEARS, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY WORK FOR THIS TYPE OF

PROJECT. >>OKAY, ALL RIGHT. >>PUBLIC COMMENT?

>>THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 10. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEN DONE, MR. SHARE, WE WILL

CLOSE PUBLIC, ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10. >>IS THERE A MOTION?

>>I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MOVE THIS MR. SHEPHERD MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022 ¦

>>380. >>PRESENT ISSUANCE FOR THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WATER REVENUE BOND 2022 AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL. NOT EXCEEDING $130 MILLION TO FUND VARIOUS WATER AND SEWER PERMITS CONTAINED UTILITY SERVICES FIVE-YEAR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

AUTHORIZING ALL NECESSARY BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND THE ISSUANCE.

>>SECOND. >>ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

ITEM 10. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >>YES PER

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >>YES. >>COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

[11 . Palm Valley West Boat Ramp Improvements.]

>>YES. >>COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >>YES.

>>AND I VOTE YES. SO, THAT PASSES 5Ä. THANKS GUYS, I APPRECIATE IT.

DON BERRYHILL ÃTHIS IS DON BERRYHILL FINALLY RETIRED? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? OKAY. I WILL ASK SOMEBODY ELSE. AT THE DEP.

HE HANDLES THE REVOLVING LOAN ACCOUNT FOR 45 AND A HALF YEARS.

THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER. SO, NOW WE ARE BACK TO ADAM 11.

[LAUGHTER] >>SHARON COMMISSIONER, RYAN KANE, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. JOIN HERE TODAY BY FELLOW PARKS AND REX STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF. WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY PALM VALLEY WEST REP.

IMPROVEMENTS ÃAS THIS WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW BOAT RAMP WITH PALM VALLEY BRIDGE ON THE WEST SIDE. THIS WAS BEFORE THE BOARD. IF WE COULD PULL UP THE POWERPOINT PLEASE. THIS WAS BEFORE THE BOARD. A COUPLE OF TIMES ÃJUST THE FIRST TIME WASN'T MUCH OF 2017. FOR APPROVAL FOR A GRANT APPLICATION.

FOR FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT. AND THEN RECENTLY ÃÃMOST RECENTLY ÃÃSEPTEMBER 6 WAS ASKED TO COME BACK WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THE PROJECT.

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TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO EXPAND ACCESS AND YOU CAN SEE COUNTY WIDE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. INCLUDING MOST RECENT PROPERTY ACQUISITION. ADDITIONALLY, THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED FOR BOAT WATERWAY ACCESS. THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED VESSELS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS AS OF 2021 JUST SHY OF 17,000. AND BELOW IS OUR ESTIMATED PARK SPACES AT THE COUNTY BUT RED.

SALTWATER AND COUNTY BOOK SPACES ARE SEVEN AND RIVERFRONT PARKING SPACES OF 135.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN 2018 Ã ÃWE DID A COMMUNITY BOAT RAMP SURVEY.

RESULTS INDICATED THAT PALM VALLEY EAST IS THE SECOND MOST UTILIZED BOAT RAMP IN THE COUNTY.ECOND TWO DONALD BOAT RAMP AND REGION OF THE COUNTY WAS IDENTIFIED AS THE MOST IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS. ADDITIONALLY AFTER THE INITIAL DESIGN WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON APRIL 13. FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THE DESIGN.

AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT ON THE TIMELINE OF THE PROGRAM INITIATED WITH THE MARCH TO 17 APPLICATION FOR FINE GRANT. MOST RECENTLY WE HAD THE PUBLIC MEETING AND IN APRIL APRIL 2022 AND JUST A POINT OF NOTE THAT THE RFP WENT UP TO DATE AND IT WAS AWARDED ÃÃAWARDED THAT PROJECT DEADLINE WOULD ACTUALLY BE TODAY TO THE FIRST BETTER ON THE PROJECT.

REVIOUSLY IT WAS A KAYAK NONMOTORIZED VESSEL LAUNCH. ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] CLOSED CAPTIONS WILL RETURN SHORTLY.

>>AND THIS IS TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT. MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND MYSELF IN THE STAFF ARE HERE. WE LOOK FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT

YOU MIGHT HAVE. >>ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? OKAY.

WE WILL START PUBLIC COMMENT. I KNOW AS I UNDERSTAND IT, JAMES IS A LIST OF ÃÃLIST OF NAMES TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WHICH ALLOWS HIM 10 MINUTES ON

BEHALF OF THOSE WHO SIGNED UP. >>YES COMMISSIONER. HE SUBMITTED OVER 20 NAMES TO

US AND >>I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM JAMES AND IF THERE ARE OTHER SPEAKERS THAT ARE NOT ON HIS LEFT, THEY WILL BE NEXT TO THREE MINUTES EACH.

>>YES SIR, THANK YOU MR. CHAR FOR THE RECORD, JAMES WHITE HOUSE.

104 SINK ROOF MAIN STREET. HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FLORIDA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF TWO HOA'S. ONE IS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THE BRIDGE AND ONE IS DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH. ONE DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS THE PALM VALLEY HARBOR HOME ASSOCIATION.IT CONSISTS OF NINE HOME LOTS WITHIN THE HOA.

WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1989. AND THERE'S ANOTHER 10 LOTS OF CAR BRIDGE ROAD OUTSIDE OF THE

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THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 68 THAT ARE PENDING. THIS MAP HERE SHOWS THE AREA AND AERIAL. THIS IS THE PALM VALLEY HARBOR LOT AND HOA.

DOWN HERE IS THE MARCH HARBOR HOA. THIS IS THE EXISTING LOTS.

THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE.

GAIN, THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE WHOLE AREA. THIS IS PALM VALLEY ROAD BEACH GOING EAST HERE. THIS IS THE COAST OF THE WATERWAY AND YOU SEE THE LOCAL ROAD. LORI LANE AND IN THIS AREA HERE AT THE SIDE OF THE BRIDGE, THIS IS WHERE YOU PROPOSE THE BOAT RAMP TO GO. IT'S CURRENTLY, AS YOU HEARD FROM STAFF, A KAYAK CANOE AND PADDLE BOARD LAUNCH. SO, THERE'S ALREADY SOME ACTIVITY GOING APPEAR IN THIS PROPERTY. THE ROADS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ARE THE LOCAL ROADS THAT COME OFF THE LOCAL ROADS OF LORI LANE AND THIS IS WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS ALL LIVE IN THIS AREA. WE CAN ALSO SEE THAT THIS IS THE INTERSECTION AT 210. WHICH IS IN UN-SIGNAL INTERSECTION.

CARS CAN GO BOTH EAST AND WEST OF 210. BUT THERE'S NO OTHER TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO STOP CARS COMING ALONG PALM VALLEY ROAD. YOU CAN ALSO SEE IN THIS AREA Ã ÃALL THE DOCS THAT ARE ALONG THE COAST WATERWAY. THE CONSTRAINED ICW, I DON'T LABEL IT THAT WAY. THE COUNTY LABELS AS CONSTRAINED IN THIS AREA.

THERE WATERWAY STUDY. AND THIS IS WHERE THE COUNTY EARLY HAS A BOAT RAMP ON THE EAST SIDE. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE INTERSECTION.

AT 210, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS LORI LANE. GOING BACK TO THE WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS LOOK AND GOING BACK TO THE PROPOSED RAMP IS GOING TO BE.

THIS IS THE BRIDGE OVER THIS AREA. THERE IS NO SYMBOLIZATION IN THIS INTERSECTION OTHER THAN A STOP SIGN FOR THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF LORI LANE.

YOU GOT CARS COMING OFF THE BRIDGE. YOU'VE GOT CARS COMING ONTO THE BRIDGE. AS WELL AS CARS COMING OUT OF LORI LANE TO GO WEST AND SOME OF THEM HAVE TO GO TO THE MIDDLE AND STOP. BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S ON THE ROAD NOW. IT'S ALSO AN AREA OF LORI LANE, WHICH IS THE LOCAL ROAD THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WETLANDS IN THE SOUTH SIDE. THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH OF A SHOULDER AND THERE'S NO ROOM FOR PARKING ALONG LORI LANE WITHOUT BLOCKING IT. AGAIN, HERE IS AN AREA THAT SHOWS THE CONSTRAINED ICW BY THE COUNTY. ON YOUR STAFF REPORT, THEY SAID THE ARMY CORPS INCORPORATED THE COAST GUARD REVIEW ÃÃTHE COAST GUARD REVIEW LABELS THIS SUGGESTION AND THIS AREA IS A HIGH RISK. WE GOT A COPY OF THE U.S. COAST GUARD REPORT SINCE THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE BEFORE YOU. AND AS I SAID ÃÃIT LABELS THIS PROPOSAL IS HIGH RISK BECAUSE THIS AREA IS HIGH RISK. THIS IS A COPY OF THE REPORT.

I'M GOING TO SUBMIT IT FOR THE RECORD. AND I JUST WANT TO TALK A MINUTE ABOUT THE REPORT. THIS IS FROM THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD.

THEY SAY THAT THE LOCATION IS HIGH RISK. THEY SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC ON THE WATERWAY HERE MAKES IT HIGH-RISK. I'M GOING TO READ A LITTLE SECTION BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS. THIS IS FROM THEIR DETERMINATION. THIS BASIC NAVIGATION RISK ASSESSMENT REVEALED HIGH LEVELS OF RISK ASSOCIATED WITH TWO OF THE CATEGORIES. THAT WAS LOCATION OF TRAFFIC AS I SAID BEFORE PRINT THE LOCATION OF THIS PROJECT IS OF CONCERN AND DEEMED TO BE HIGH-RISK. THERE HAVE BEEN DAYS WHERE UPWARDS OF UP TO 500 VESSELS HAVE BEEN OBSERVED TRANSITING THE AREA. THIS IS ONLY DURING THE COURSE OF A 14 DAY TRAFFIC STUDY CONDUCTED IN LATE AUGUST AND EARLY SEPTEMBER 2020.

THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE DAYS WITH EVEN HIGHER TRAFFIC VOLUME THAN WHAT WAS RECORDED IN THIS BRIEF SNAPSHOT. THE COAST GUARD SUGGESTS THAT A LONGER STUDY COVERING A NUMBER OF BOATING SEASONS BE CONDUCTED TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN THE AREA. THEY CONCLUDE IN THE REPORT BY SAYING TRAFFIC IN THE AREA RESULTING FROM THIS PROJECT IS OF CONCERN.

AND WAS DEEMED TO BE HIGH-RISK. THE RISKS ARE THAT THE EXISTING HIGH-VOLUME AND TRAFFIC CONSISTING OF HUNDREDS OF VOLUMES A DAY WILL BE INCREASED BY THE INTRODUCTION OF A NEW BOAT RAMP AND KAYAK LAUNCH. WHEN CONNECTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA, MORE CONFERENCE OF STUDY WITH AN EYE TOWARDS THE POTENTIAL FOR OFFICIAL VESSEL AND FLEX WOULD AID THE COAST GUARD AND CONDUCT A MORE THOROUGH RISK ASSESSMENT.

AND THEY TALK ABOUT THIS MORE IN DEPTH STUDY AND THEY SAY THE COAST GUARD HAS DETERMINED THAT A MORE DETAILED NAVIGATION RISK ASSESSMENT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE TO DETERMINE THE RISK OF THESE PROJECTS TO CONDUCT A FORMAL NAVIGATION PRISK ASSESSMENT PER THE

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THEY RECOMMEND HOPEFULLY TRAFFIC STUDY THAT SPANS HEAVY AND LIGHT BOATING TRAFFIC MONTHS. HEAVY AND LIGHT BOATING TRAFFIC MONTHS.

HE HEARD THE STAFF SAY THAT THEY PUT UP A CAMERA TO VIEW IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE THEY TOLD HIM TO SAY THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO FOR FUTURE REVIEW ON THAT STUDY AND IT NEEDED TO BE DONE. IT NEVER BEEN A STUDY DONE. CAN YOU GUESS AND THEIR STAFF REPORT OF 2017 ÃÃTHE BOARD CONSIDERED THIS. I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THAT MEETING. IT WAS ON THE CONTENT AGENDA PER THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ASKED IN THE ITEM. THERE'S A DEADLINE TO EXECUTE THIS CONSTRUCTION PLATFORM.

AS OF 2022 AND TODAY ÃÃTHIS IS A LETTER THAT I WILL SUBMIT AS WELL FROM THE EXISTENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FIND. THAT'S THE PEOPLE WHO GRANTED ADMISSION TO THE COUNTY AND IT SAYS AFTER SUBMISSION OF CLOSED THAT PAPERWORK BY THE OCTOBER 2022 DEADLINE FOR THE PHASE 1 DESIGN ENGINEERING AND PERMITTING PROJECT, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR TO COMPLETE THE REQUIREMENT TO SUBMIT AND EXECUTE A PROJECT AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.

THERE ARE TWO PHASES TO THIS GRANT. TWO GRANTS.

ONE IS ACTUALLY BUILDING IT AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS CAN THERE BE FURTHER COUNTY REVIEW? THE U.S. COAST GUARD ASKED FOR THE COUNTY REVIEW TO PUT TWO BOAT RAMPS RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER IN A COUNTY LABEL CONSTRAINED AREA OF ICW. ALSO, THE COMMUNITY ASKED THAT YOU DO TAKE MORE TIME AND TAKE THE EXTRA TIME TO ANSWER THIS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AND YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS. I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD PERSONALLY FROM A LOT OF THE AREA RESIDENTS BY BOTH EMAIL AND PHONE. THEY WERE NAMED EARLY.

THERE ARE STILL A FEW HERE FROM THE AREA THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU.

THIS IS MAINLY OPPOSITION. THIS IS INSANE THAT WE JUST WANT THIS IN OUR BACKYARD.

THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY SUPPORT A PARK THERE. THIS IS COUNTING ATLANTA.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BE THE PASSIVE SIDE OF THE COUNTY RECREATION.

THIS BE THE SIDE OF THE ÃTHIS GETS FIXED UP AND HAVE MORE PARKING, ALLOW THE KAYAK LAUNCH PER PEOPLE FROM MCATEE AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND AN IV DRIP WOULD LIKE TO COME AND USE PADDLE BOARDS AND KAYAKS AND CANOES. DON'T MIX THE TWO.

AND I THINK YOU LOOK AT THE COAST GUARD COMMENTS, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AS WELL PRODUCE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE.ND FOR THE REVIEW IS REASONABLE.

IN COAST GUARD REQUESTS FOR THE REVIEW.

COMMUNITIES PLEADING WITH YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND ALLOWING THIS FURTHER ACTION REVIEW OF THE 210 ABNER SECTION BECAUSE IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE. IT'S EVEN AN ISSUE NOW BEFORE YOU HAVE A BOAT RAMP THERE WITH TRAILERS AND BOATS MIXING ALL THIS AND WITH THE CURRENT LOCAL TRAFFIC.

AS I SAID TO YOU EARLIER, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES BACK HERE AND THERE'S MORE COMING.

THERE'S NO LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION. THE LIGHT THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT AT ROSCOE ROAD IS AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. FINALLY WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AND FILING THE REQUEST OF THE U.S. COAST GUARD FOR A REAL STUDY OF THIS COUNTY LABEL CONSTRAINED AREA. TO SEE IF TWO BOAT RAMPS ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER ARE APPROPRIATE IN THIS HIGH-RISK AREA. FINALLY, IF YOU FEEL OTHER CONCERNS ARE WARRANTED OR IF YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO FOLLOW THE COAST GUARD RECOMMENDATIONS OR JUST THE AREAS AT SEATAC CURRENTLY, THEY ASK YOU TO PLEASE ALLOW THE TIME AND THE GRANT TO REPORT THE PROJECT TO ADDRESS THE PARKING OVERFLOW AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION BEFORE IT RESULTS IN DANGEROUS RESULTS. WE ASK YOU RESPECTFULLY AND HUMBLY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THEY KNOW THAT YOU ALWAYS PROTECT THEM AND CONTINUE TO PROTECT THEM AND THEIR HOMES AND THEIR GREAT COUNTY. AND I THINK JUST IN SOME ÃÃI WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW, I REALIZE THAT THERE'S COMPETING INTEREST.

PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT ON THE WATER. AND NOT WE ARE COUNTING ON CALLS FOR ADDITIONAL BOAT RAMPS. WE HAVE A BOAT RAMP HERE.

WE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY HERE. I THINK THE COAST GUARD, WHO POLICES THE AREA WILL RESPOND TO ANY ACCIDENTS IN THE AREA. I TELLING YOU THAT IT'S HIGH-RISK PUTTING TWO BOAT RAMPS ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER. I THINK IT'S REASONABLE REQUEST TO SAY IS CORRECT. LET'S KEEP IT PASSIVE. LET'S HAVE OUR CANOES AND OUR KAYAKS AND OUR PADDLE BOARDS. AND PEOPLE FROM NOKIA T ALSO Ã JUST HAVING A KAYAK LAUNCH AT THEIR HOME IN THEIR OWN ROADS. PEOPLE IN THE BEACH CAN COME AND USE THIS.

AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A REASON TO. I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN A TOTAL OF THE MEMBERS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME MR. CHAIR AND I LIKE TO SET MIGHT BE SOME MORE MEMBERS TO TALK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WILL SUBMIT THE EMAILS

FOR A RECORD. >>AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT FROM ANYBODY WHO'S NOT BEING REPRESENTED BY MR. WHITE HOUSE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC,. YES SIR.

WOULD JUST ASK BEFORE YOU GET PUBLIC,, HE JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU.COTT JOSLIN, 500 HARBOR LIGHTS DRIVE.

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>>DID GREAT. >>THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY.

WE REALLY JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE COUNTY HAS SEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS TALKING 2017. WE EXPECTED THAT GROWTH TO ACCELERATE AND CONTINUE WITH THE GROWTH OF MCATEE AND BEACH WALK AND EVERYONE USING THIS ACCESS FOR THE BEACH AND POTENTIALLY FOR A BEAUTIFUL PARK.

AND PASSIVE USE. WITH THAT THOUGH, THE COMMUNITY IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT GLORY PLANE INTERSECTION. WE CAN INGRESS AND EGRESS. IT'S THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS USED FOR A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITIES. PEOPLE USE THE BRIDGE JUST FOR CONDITIONING ACTIVITIES.WE HAVE PALAVI DRAW HIGH SCHOOL. THEY'RE USING IT FOR CROSS COUNTRY TEAMS EVERYONE. RUNNING BACK AND FORTH. RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.

AVEN'T RESIDENTS TRYING TO TAKE THAT LEFT TO GO WEST AND HAVING A TRAILER COME BY OR EVEN HAVING A TRAILER EXITING Ã THIS YOU'RE GOING TO BE BLOCKING TRAFFIC.

THERE IS NO WAY FOR THAT TRAIL SHOULD BE STOPPED IN THE CENTER WITH ALL THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GOING EAST AND WEST. IT'S A BIG CONCERN. FOLLOWING THAT UP, WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE TRAILERS WILL USE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TURNAROUND.

AS THEY TRY TO TURN THE TRAILS AROUND TO DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE HEADING TOWARDS THE RENT ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] LASTLY, THERE IS CERTAINLY CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING ALONG GLORY LANE. WITH THE 10 OR 11 PROPOSED SPOTS JUST AS WE THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE VOTERS THAT WANT TO BE THERE AND WE THINK TRYING TO PARK IN PARALLEL PARKED ON GLORY LANE AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BECOME VERY PROBLEMATIC. AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY WANTS.

SO, WE'RE JUST ÃTHIS WE ARE REALLY ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND MORE RECENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS? AND COME UP WITH A MORE VIABLE SOLUTION?

THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU.>>GOOD JOB. >>AND WE ALSO PUBLIC, ON THIS

AGENDA ITEM? >>HELLO THERE. GOOD TO SEE YU AGAIN.

>>GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. TIME FOR HAVING US. MY NAME IS ANGELA MARTIN.

MY ADDRESS IS 321 NORTH SHIPWRECK AVENUE AND THAT'S IN MARSH HARBOR SUBDIVISION.

S WE SAW IN THE DIAGRAM EARLIER, GLORY LANE IS THE SINGLE ENTRYWAY AND EXIT FOR BOTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES. AND I LEAVE GLORY LANE TURNING LEFT ONTO 10TH ON A DAILY BASIS. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY IT IS.

SOMETIMES I SIT THERE FOR EIGHT MINUTES. WAITING TO TURN LEFT.

AND IT'S ÃÃTHE TRAFFIC CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT. SOMETIMES TO GET ACROSS.

GOING WEST.ALSO, ARE CONCERNED ON GLORY LANE ÃÃ IT'S BEEN MADE INACTIVE BOAT RAMP. THE PARKING SITUATION ÃÃWE ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY WILL UTILIZE GLORY LANE FOR PARKING THERE BOAT AND TRAILERS. BECAUSE I'M A WALKER.

ONE OF THOSE THAT WALK OR LANE EVERY DAY. AND ACROSS THE BRIDGE DOWN TO PALM VALLEY OUTDOORS. AND I SEE THAT MONDAY ÃJUST THE PARKING AND THEN MORE PARKING OVER THERE. WHEN THAT GETS FULL, THEY UTILIZE THE SIDES OF THE ROAD AND SIDEWALKS AS WELL. GLORY LANE ISN'T THAT WIDE OF A ROAD.

AND OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING THAT AND HAVING TO DODGE THOSE TRACKS CARS AND TRAILERS AS WE ARE ENJOYING OUR DAILY WALKS. ANOTHER CONCERN TO IS THAT THE WEIGHT GLORY LANE IS LAID OUT. AT THE CUL-DE-SAC AT THE END. THE VEHICLES AND TRAILERS WILL BE TURNING AROUND AND IF IT GETS COOL DOWN THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ENTRANCE TO HER IN. IT'S GONNA MAKE IT THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR US. TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

TO GO TO OUR JOBS AND GO TO OUR APPOINTMENTS AND WHATEVER. WHATEVER WE ARE DOING.

WE DO FULLY SUPPORT HAVING AN AREA THERE TO KEEP IT FOR NONMOTORIZED VEHICLES.

LIKE IT IS NOW. THE KAYAKS, THE PADDLE BORDERS. MAKE IT A LOVELY PARK.

WE WELCOME THAT. WE REALLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. WHITE HOUSE PRESENTED TODAY.

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TIME. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES? PLEASE CME FORWARD. HI.

OH, MAN. I LIKE TO SEE THAT. >>HELLO, I'M BRIAN TEAL.

I'M RESIDENT AND MARSH HARBOR. 400 NORTH HARBOR LAKES DRIVE. ABOUT 100 YARDS AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED BLUEPRINT. FIRST THING IS FIRST. LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS.

I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE BOAT RAMP FOR SAFETY. FOR LAND AND WATER, THEY'VE EARLY BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT TO ME, HAVING TWO BOAT RAMPS ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF EACH OTHER IS KIND OF A POOR DECISION PAID WE UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO INCREASE ON THE WATER ACCESS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT AGAINST THAT. I AM A BOATER AND AS ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST HAVING A BUNCH OF CONFLICTED USERS ON THE WATER AND PADDLE BORDERS AND KAYAKERS AND THAT SORT OF THING AND NOW THE BOAT RAMP BACKING OUT IN TWO BOAT RAMPS JUST SEEMS KIND OF A LITTLE CRAZY. BUT IT'S A NARROW CONSTRAINT BOATER AND WATERWAY. AND THAT'S A LITTLE SCARY WITH TWO BOAT RAMPS THERE.

SO, THERE'S ALSO A SAFETY CONCERN THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND THAT THE EGRESS OF THIS POTENT VEHICLE TRAILER WEEKS CROSSING THOSE TWO LANES GOING AND GOING TO IT'S GOING EAST AND WEST ON THE 210 ROAD THERE. THAT THE PRIESTS VERY SIGNIFICANT ÃÃOUR NEW DRIVERS AND I'M ALWAYS SCARED AND THEY HAVE TO PULL OUT OF THERE BECAUSE NICK AT THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS DRIVING FAST AND THEY RACE EACH OTHER AND IT'S A PRETTY HIGH-SPEED AREA.

FOR SURE. SO, ALSO, OUR CONCERT WAS THE INADEQUATE PARKING.

AND WHILE IN THE BOAT AND IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG TO FILL UP THOSE SPACES.

AND SO, IF THERE CAN BE PARKING ALONGSIDE THE ROAD AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND GO RETRIEVE THE BOATS. THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PHYSICALLY DO THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING ON TO OUR PRIVATE ROAD. IF THE TURNAROUND THERE.

WHICH WE HAVE A COUNTY. A BUS STOP AS WELL FOR OUR CHILDREN.

SO, THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN OF THE AS WELL. I WAS THINKING THAT THRE MIGHT BE A BETTER TENTATIVE LOCATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LATE.

THE KNOCK AT THE KAYAK LAUNCH THAT IS TO THE SOUTH OF THIS LOCATION ÃÃIT'S A NONPOWERED LAUNCH AREA THERE. BUT IT'S GOT A LOT OF LAND. IT'S GOT A LOT OF PLACES WHERE THEY CAN IMPROVE WATER ACCESS AND IT'S A PRETTY ÃÃAN AREA THAT SEES A LOT OF LINKS IN BUILT UP RIGHT NOW. IN CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GROWING.

IT MIGHT BE A BETTER SOLUTION TO OFFERING BETTER ACCESS TO OTHER PEOPLE.

BASICALLY WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST LOCATION FOR A POWER RAMP AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE KEEP IT AS A KAYAK AND PADDLEBOARD RAMP, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY CAUSE PROBLEMS IN THE AREA. AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO KEEP

THAT AS IT IS. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR THAT. >>THANK YOU. >>ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT? HI. >>MRS. FERGUSON, 304 HARBOR

ROADS DRIVE. >>GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN. LISA BENFORD, 413 NORTH HARBOR LIGHTS DRIVE. I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE MY PUBLIC, AND MY OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSED BOAT RAMP. I SPOKE TO SEVERAL OF YOU YESTERDAY AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU GAVE TO HEAR US OUT.SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE EARLY HEARD ÃÃTHERE IS INCREASING CONCERN. EVEN CURRENTLY THE 210 INTERSECTION.

210 TURNING LEFT ÃÃI WOULD SAY NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, I'M GOING INTO THAT MIDDLE MEDIAN TO THEN CROSS OVER INTO THE ONGOING TRAFFIC. UNLESS YOU ARE TRAVELING BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 11 PM AND 5 AM. THAT IS PROBABLY THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT ACROSS. SO, YOU ARE PLAYING A GAME OF LEAPFROG BY HAVING TO SIT IN THE MIDDLE LANE. I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT THAT MIGHT BE LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAILER THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO THEN CROSS WITH OTHER TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH AND SPEEDS

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I THINK YOU DECREASE THE RISK FOR ADDITIONAL COLLISIONS AND YOU MAKE IT A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL USERS. SO, THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK AND I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE]

>>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU LADIES. >>WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO

MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR? >>WAS HOPING I WOULD GREET YOU WITH A GOOD ONE. BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH A GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL INTO ANNAPOLIS. 228 CLAIRE BRIDGE ROAD.

HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I PREVIOUSLY TOLD YOU ABOUT MY 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

BUT I WANTED TO LIST MY CREDENTIALS. JUST FOR THE RECORD.

SOME OF THESE DATES SCARED ME WHEN I WRITE IT DOWN. I'VE BEEN A REGISTERED PROFESSOR OF AN ENGINEER. I'VE BEEN A CERTIFIED GENERAL CONTRACTOR SINCE 1979.

A BEEN A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER SINCE 1980. I THINK I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND CREDENTIALS TO COMMENT ON THIS. Y'ALL ARE VERY AWARE OF MY REASONS FOR OBJECTING TO THIS. I MET WITH SEVERAL VIEW MULTIPLE ELSE.

I'M NOT GOING TO ELABORATE ON THE POINTS, I'M JUST SORT OF GOING TO BLOW POINT THEM.

NONCOMPATIBLE USE FOR RESIDENTIAL AREA. INSUFFICIENT PARKING.

MANY OF THESE ITEMS HAVE EARLY BEEN DISCUSSED AND INSUFFICIENT CIRCULATION.

POTENTIAL TRESPASSING. LORI LYNN TRAFFIC AND DUSTIN AND UNSAFE ACCESS AT THE PALM VALLEY ROAD INTERSECTION. WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THAT I'VE NOT MENTIONED BEFORE. AS A RESULT OF THE HURRICANE THAT WE JUST HAD.

I NOTED THAT THAT WHOLE AREA BECOMES INUNDATED AND BECAME INUNDATED ON THE HURRICANE.

AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE ÃÃYOU MIGHT HAVE A TENDENCY TO SAY THAT THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

HURRICANES AND EVERYTHING GETS INUNDATED. I TOOK A LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND ELEVATIONS OF THE STORM WATER POND, THE PARKING AREA AND BOAT RAMP ARE SUCH THAT IT WILL BECOME INUNDATED EVERY KING TYPE. THAT'S A LUNAR TYPE AND EVERY CAME TIED.

IT GETS INUNDATED. THE TOP OF THAT WALL IS 4.8. KING TIDE HAS EXCEEDED THE ELEVATION. MY LIST DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY WATERWAY ISSUES BECAUSE I KNOW THE BOARD HAS REFERRED TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. BUT AS WE POINTED OUT ÃÃTHE COURT BASICALLY IGNORED THE COAST GUARD'S RECOMMENDATION. SO ÃÃYOU ALSO ARE AWARE THAT I SUPPORT BUILDING A SECOND LAUNCH RAMP ON THE EAST SIDE. FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

THERE IS SUFFICIENT PARKING AND I THINK OF DEMONSTRATED TO YOU THAT YOU CAN INSUFFICIENT PARKING. IT'S COMMERCIALLY ZONED.O, IT'S APPROPRIATELY COMPATIBLE LOCATION. IT HAS SAFE CONTROL AND ACCESS AT ROSCOE'S SOON TO BE NEWLY SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION WITH PALM VALLEY ROAD. WHICH ALLOWS SAFE INGRESS AND REGRESS. ADDITIONALLY, THE GROUND IS HIGHER AND IT WOULD NOT BECOME INUNDATED DURING KING TIDE. I THINK THAT ONE FOR MY LIST BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WENT ON THIS MORNING. AND NOT THE BOARD IS CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING FUND DOLLARS.

THE COST TO REPAIR SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE ADVISED AS A RESULT OF DEVELOPING THIS PROJECT AS PROPOSED WILL COST MORE THAN THE FINE DOLLARS THAT YOU ARE GETTING TO CONSTRUCT THIS PROJECT. I ALSO JUST THAT IT'S PROBABLY JUST AS YOU COULD APPLY AND RECEIVE THE GRANT FOR MODIFIED DESIGN. I'M GONNA CLOSE.

THE BOARD MOVES FORWARD AGAINST THE OBJECTION OF LOCAL RESIDENTS WITH THE PLAN IS BEING PROPOSED. WE WOULD EXPECT YOU TO ACT AND ACT QUICKLY.

>>MR. COLLINS, MR. INDIANAPOLIS, YOU HAVE TO TEST A CHEF TO CUT YOU OFF.

SORRY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS PER >>THAT WAS IT.

THANKS. >>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU.

>>WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? LL RIGHT, FANTASTIC. SING ON, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA

ITEM. >>ALL RIGHT, OF COURSE, THIS IS PROPOSED BOAT RAMP IS IN DISTRICT 4. SO COMMISSIONER WALKER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK OR SUGGEST ANY THOUGHTS OR

SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT? >>YES MR. CHAIR, I'M WORKING AT

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THAT EXPRESSED CONCERNS. I'VE LIVED NEAR THE AREA. I'M AWARE THAT CONCERNS OF TRAFFIC. EVERYONE WANTS A RECREATIONAL FACILITY.

CERTAINLY ALL MY NEIGHBORS DO AND THINK OF IT IN THE COUNTY VICTIMIZES THE NATURE OF THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A COUNTY JUST AS A PLANT JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

UNDERSTAND THE TIME THAT THIS IS APPROVED, THERE IS A CONSENSUS THAT THIS WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT I DON'T SEE US CREATE MORE PROBLEMS. I WOULD SOLVE ONE PROBLEM.

THAT IS WHY I FELT THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

AND I WILL REST ON THOSE COMMENTS.

CUSTOMÁ OKAY, THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEMBERS, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO WEIGH IN?

>>YES MR. CHAIRMAN.>YES PAUL? QUESTION FOR MR. WHITE HOUSE.

I CANNOT TELL WHEN HE GETS THERE. SO.>YES SIR, HE IS NOT

THERE. ALL YOURS PAUL. >>MR. WHITE HOUSE, WHEN YOU SAY THAT THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ARE YOU FRIEND THAT THE COURT

DOESN'T READ THE CONSENT AGENDA? >>NOT ALL MR. COMMISSIONER.

>>WAS THE PLOY THAT IT WAS JUST ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? >>WHY DID I MENTION IT?

>>THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH THE PROGRAM SURE >>I CANNOT HEAR YOU TOO WELL, BUT I'M SURE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER MAY BE

PULLING IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. >>NO, COMMISSIONER MORE THAT IT PUBLIC,. THE TIME IS APPROVED. A LOT OF YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH ME AND TODAY WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS ONLY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[INDISCERNIBLE] GO AHEAD. >>YES SIR, I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK PART OF IT IS BASED ON FACT NUMBER ONE. THAT YOU DID NOT HAVE THE COAST GUARD COMMENTS BACK IN 2017. I THINK THE INTERSECTION AT PALM VALLEY ROAD AND INTERSECTION TO 10 NOW. A FOUR LANE INTERSECTION THAT IS ON SIGNALIZED DID NOT HAVE THE TRAFFIC THAT IT HAS NOW. AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY WHEN I SAID THE GRANT ÃÃTHE 2017 CONSIDERATION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS TO APPROVE THE GRANT TO GO TO THE REQUEST BIDS FOR THE DESIGN OF THIS. SO, WHAT IS HEAD OF THE SLIDE AND I CAN GO BACK TO IT ÃJUST I WON'T FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DISCUSSION OF THE RECORD BACK IN 2017.

>>OKAY, ALSO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE BODY THAT DOES THE PERMITTING, RIGHT?

>>THE ARMY CORPS AND ENGINEER PIGMENT TO GET AN APPLICATION COMMISSIONER WALDRON SENDS OUT COMMENTS. FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. THE COAST GUARD IS ONE OF THOSE AND THIS IS THE REPORT THAT I DID NOT EVEN HAVE UNTIL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

AND I GOT NOT TO THE COUNTY STAFF OR THE ARMY CORPS OR INDIVIDUALS REQUESTED EARLIER.

THAT'S WHY I SUBMITTED THIS COMMENTS. THINK THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT AND ACTUALLY PRETTY

APPLICABLE. >>OKAY. BECAUSE STAFF CAN ANSWER THIS.

I THINK THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE BRIDGE HAS RAMPS ON BOTH SIDES.

>>I DON'T KNOW IF RYAN OR JAMIE CAN ANSWER THAT. >>COMMISSIONER RYAN KANE ÃÃI CONFIRMED WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND NEITHER ONE OF US IS SURE OF THAT.

WE CAN ANSWER THAT. >>I TAKE IT BACK TO WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY JUST GOING TO BE BUILT. THERE IS ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE ÃÃA LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IS AROUND THE AREA AND I THINK WE HAVE TO GET WITH THE ARMY CORPS.HERE ORIGINAL DESIGN IS 100 FOOT FROM THE CLIENT. THEY HAVE ALLOWED TO DOCK 60 AND A HALF FEET FROM THE CHANNEL AND IT MIGHT BE THAT SUMTER COUNTY HAS TO LOOK AT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE ADHERED TO.

HE NUMBER ONE SAFETY CONCERN IS ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT CLOSE TO THE CHANNEL.

BY THE ALLOW THEM WITHIN 60 AND A HALF FEET OF THOSE CHANNELS, I DO NOT KNOW.THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE 100 FEET FROM THE CHANNEL. AND THAT HAS STRAINED THE AREA QUITE A BIT. I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

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THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. >>YES SIR PAUL. >>ARE THERE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >>MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL QUESTION FOR STAFF IF I COULD.

MR. CANDIDATE, DID STAFF ANALYZE THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS? I KNOW HOW BUSY STRETCH IS FOR COMMISSIONER BLOCKER TALKED ABOUT. YOU'VE HEARD RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT IT. WE WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY 11 BOATS AT ONE TIME.

BEING DRAGGED BY TRUCKS OR CARS GOING THROUGH THIS AREA, WHICH IS HIGHLY TRAFFICKED WITH WITH VEHICLES. WAS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION?

>>I THINK PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ÃÃIT WAS STAFF ENGINEER TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT. WHILE IT'S A SAFE CONDITION FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS.

>>YOU FEEL THAT IT'S SAFE NOW AND WHEN THE BOAT RAMP? >>YES SIR.

I THINK THERE AN ADDITIONAL 911 SPOTS. THIS IS THE PEAK KIND OF MOVEMENT. IF YOU LIKE THIS IS A SAFE CONDITION BUT WE WILL TAKE IT TO MONITOR IT. ALSO WITH THE SIGNAL THAT'S GOING IN THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BRIDGE WILL PROVIDE GAPS AND SIGNALS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS INTERSECTION WERE GAPS FOR

PEOPLE TO ACCESS >>AND PROVIDE MORE GAP FROM THE PEOPLE FROM THE EAST AND WEST.

>YES SIR. >>OKAY. >>MR. KANE MR. INDIANAPOLIS WAS THE ENGINEER. I MET WITH HIM IN THE OFFICE THINKING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DID TOO. HINTZMAN OPPRESSIVE RENDERINGS WHEN HE SAW SOME SOLUTIONS.

WHY CAN'T WE JUST ADD THESE IN THE SPOTS TO THE EAST RAMP? BECAUSE THERE IS SUFFICIENT

CAPACITY OVER THERE? >>WITH MULTIPLE ISSUES GOING ON ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAIN.

WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THE CIP PROJECT FOR THAT SITE. CURRENTLY THE RENT THAT'S THEIR IS VERY STEEP AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE FUTURE. CIP PROJECT AND TO JUSTICE RIGHT NOW ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT RAMP ÃÃIT'S OVERFLOW PARKING IN THE DOSE FULL UP WHEN THEY DO GO BEYOND THE REGULAR PARKING LOT. ÃAT THE COUNTY RIGHT AWAY TO FOLLOW. DOES PHILIP. WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL SPOTS

THAT ARE ALREADY BEING TAKEN BY INDIVIDUALS. >>IS NO PLACE TO PUT ADDITIONAL

SPOTS? >>YOU COULD PUT 11 ADDITIONAL SPOTS, BUT THERE IS ALREADY

PARKING FOR DESSERT HE THAT MANY BOATS COMING THROUGH. >>I UNDERSTAND.

>>MY LAST QUESTIONS FOR MR. WHITE HOUSE. THIS WILL BE MY LAST.

THING. I'M CONFLICTED ON THIS ISSUE. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.

I THINK FOR ALL OF US TO MAKE. HOW DO WE RECONCILE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY PADDLE BOARDING AND KAYAKING FROM THE WEST SIDE IF THE WATERWAYS ARE AS DANGEROUS AS THE COAST GUARD SAYS IT IS. WHERE THEY PADDLE BOARDING IF THEY CAN'T?

>>THE POINT OF TRYING TO MAKE AND I DID NOT MAKE IT VERY WELL, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THE COUNTY SAW FIT TO PUT THE PADDLEBOARD, THE PASSIVE USES ON THE WEST SIDE, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY PARKED THERE. IT'S NOT DEVELOPED AND USING THE FUNDS TO MAKE THEM. THEY'RE NOT ENTERING. THERE IS NO PADDLEBOARD LAUNCH ON THE WEST SIDE.'M SORRY COME ON THE EAST SIDE CURRENTLY FOR THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY'S PADDLEBOARD, CANOE, KAYAK LAUNCH IS ON THE WEST SIDE.

ON THE LOT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THE MOTORIZED IS ON THE EAST SIDE. THEREFORE, THERE IS NOT A MIX OF THEM GETTING TOGETHER RIGHT NOW. WHETHER THEY ARE BEING MIXED IN THE WATERWAYS ARE MIXED IN THE INLET. THEY ARE MIXED DOWN BY THE BRIDGE ÃÃTHE DANGER IS THAT THEY ARE IN A CONSTRAINT AREA OF ICW BY THE COUNTY ITSELF. AND IF YOU MIX THEM WHEN THEY ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE PROBLEM COMES AND THAT'S WITH THE COAST

GUARD IS TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY STUDY. >>IT'S NOT A CONCERN THAT

PEOPLE CONCURRENTLY KAYAKING PADDLEBOARD? >>I THINK THEY GET IN ON THE

OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE RIVER, YES SIR. >>ALL RIGHT.

>>OKAY, THANK YOU. CUSTOMÁ IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION? I'M NOT HEARING A MOTION.

MY UNDERSTANDING, UNLIKE A ZONING ISSUE, WE DO NOT NEED A YES OR NO VOTE.

WHAT WE NEED HERE IS I UNDERSTAND, THE AGENDA ITEM, DAVID IS TO ÃÃWE NEED AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE TO GO FORWARD AND DIRECT STAFF TO ASSIGN THE EXISTING CONTRACT THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED. SO, IF THERE IS NO MOTION AND SECOND THE VOTE, THEN IT FAILS.

>>THAT IS CORRECT. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THOUGH THERE IS NO MOTION OR VOTE,

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>>IF THERE IS NO VOTE TO GO FORWARD TO DIRECT STAFF TO SIGN THE CONTRACT, THAT IS IT BY ITSELF. I THINK HIS DIRECTION OF THE STAFF UNLESS WITH YOU, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. BUT SINCE I'VE HEARD NO MOTION ÃÃI AM ASSUMING THAT THIS ITEM IS DONE. UNLESS WE WANT TO GET THE STAFF

ANY GUIDANCE OR DIRECTION AT THIS POINT. >>THAT IS A QUICK SUMMARY, YES.

>>I AM OFFERING TO PAUL AND JEREMIAH. THE STAFF AND TALK.

OTHERWISE, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS THERE. >>MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL MAKE A

MOTION JUST TO BE GET THE DISCUSSION ON THAT. >>OKAY.

>>I WILL DO A MOTION TO ADOPT THE 2022 ¦ >>381.

>>THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. THE BID NUMBER 22Ä00 PALM VALLEY WEST RAMP UP IMPROVEMENTS. THE CONSTRUCTION GROUP. LLC.

THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND THIS DISH I'M SORRY, RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE AND TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AND SUBSTANTIALLY SAME FORMAT IS ADHERED TO. THE PLACEMENT OF THE PROJECT AND BID NUMBER 22Ä00 FOUR LUMP-SUM COST OF $398,742. AND APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF $100,000 FROM THE PARK PROJECTS. PRESERVES 1198¥9920.

1198¥6301. PALM VALLEY WEST FOR IMPROVEMENT.

OT BUILDINGS FOR THE PALM VALLEY WEST RAMP IMPROVEMENTS. >>WE HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? >>ON IN A SECOND SO WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

>>WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>>MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST KNOW THIS. WE DESPERATELY NEED MORE ACCESS TO THE WATER. THESE ARE FEDERAL WATERWAYS. THIS IS NOT ONLY ONE CITIZEN.

THIS IS WHAT EVERY ST. JOHN'S CITIZEN PAYS TO GET ACCESS TO THE WATERWAYS.T SAYS SO ON YOUR TAX STATEMENT. IF THE BOARD CHOOSES NOT TO DO MOVE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ÃÃ YOU JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO ADD KNOWING THAT THAT'S GONNA COST TRIPLE MAYBE EVEN MORE TO FIND ANOTHER ACCESS POINT. SUMMER IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

SO THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IF WE DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY.

THAT IS MY CONCERN AND WALKING AWAY FROM THIS FUNDING. >>OKAY.

SO, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ÃÃWE WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

THE VOICE VOTE. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >>YES.

[12 . Village of West Augustine Discussion.]

>>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >>YES. >>YES.

>>COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >>YES. >>COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>>NO. >>AND I VOTE YES. SO ÃÃTHE ITEM IS APPROVED FOR ÃONE. THE GO FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT.

GOT IT? ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.

11. AND THAT TAKES US TO 12. FINALLY GUYS, WE'RE SIGNING OFF 12. [LAUGHTER]

>>GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER SPURRED SHAWNA NOVAK.

DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. HERE FOR THE VILLAGE OF WEST AUGUSTINE DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO, WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION. THIS IS THE VILLAGE OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THIS IS AN INFORMAL HOUSING PROJECT BUT TO THE COUNTY BY BUILDING HOUSING AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. IT IS COMPRISED OF 92 AFFORDABLE MULTI FAMILY UNITS.

THERE ARE 100 PERCENT AFFORDABLE. THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 25.3 MILLION. THE PROJECT IS CONTINUING THE REDEVELOPMENT OF WEST AUGUSTINE AND DOES CONFORM TO THE OBJECTIVES OF THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA PLAN.

ADDITIONALLY, IT'S ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED MEDICAL CENTER. AND IT IS LOCATED NEAR THE URBAN CORE OF THE COUNTY. FOR CONTEXT, HERE IS A MAP OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT SITE.

AND THEN JUST SOME PROJECT HISTORY ÃÃEARLIER IN 2019 ÃÃ THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVED A COUNTY MATCH OF 460,000 TOWARDS THE PROGRAM.

THAT ABILITY WAS SUBMITTING TO FINANCE THE HOUSING CORPORATION AS PART OF THEIR LOW INCOME TAX

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BECAUSE THEY PROJECTED A FINANCIAL GAP DUE TO THE INCREASE OF CONSTRUCTION AND LENDING COSTS. SO ÃÃTHE LETTER CONTAINED TWO OPTIONS FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER. EITHER IT WILL IMPACT FEE THE WORLD FOR 16 YEARS OR IMPACT THE WAIVER. AT THIS TIME, THE ESTIMATED IMPACT FEE IS ONE POINT 2 MILLION. OUR CURRENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM OF FIVE YOUR APPLICABLE IMPACT FEE DEFERRAL AND THE FOLLOWING INSTANCES.

ONLY SINGLE-FAMILY WORKFORCE HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND THERE IS NO CURRENT FEE AND WAIVER ALLOWED. AT THIS TIME ÃÃTHE STAFF IS SEEKING BOARD DIRECTION IS SUPPORT FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.

SINCE IT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. STAFF WOULD BRING BACK ANY REQUIRED MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE OR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE MISSED SHANNON ASHWORTH. CEO OF THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SHOULD THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. AND STAFF ARE ALSO AVAILABLE

FOR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. >>OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? STAFF? YOU ARE GOOD? OKAY. BEFORE WE A PUBLIC COMMENT, I JUST WANT TO OUTLINE AT LEAST IN MY MIND THAT WHAT I THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE.

I AM PERSONALLY VERY, VERY IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PORTABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN WEST AUGUSTINE. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL STAFF. WITH KEELEY AND CHRISTINE AND IN PARTICULAR, THEY RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT WAIVE THE RULES, WHICH WE HAVE DONE IN SOME LIMITED INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE A POLICY OR AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROBABLY RUN INTO TROUBLE.

BUT KAYLEE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING IF WE WANTED TO GO FORWARD AND ONE HEARING, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY LAW INSTEAD OF THE TWO THAT ARE REQUIRED.

TEST IS NOT REQUIRED ÃJUST THAT WE AS A COUNTY CHOSE TO PHAVE TWO HEARINGS INSTEAD OF ONE. AND STATE LAW ONLY REQUIRES ONE.

>>CORRECT. TO THE CHAIR. SO, THE POLICY OF THE PORT OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, YOU HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

YOU COULD WAIVE THAT TO JUST ONE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU NEED TO BRING THAT MATTER BACK IN A MORE TIMELY FASHION GOING THROUGH THAT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

>>IF WE DID THAT, THAT WOULD MEET THE DECEMBER DEADLINE. AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

SO, I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL MY THOUGHTS SINCE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

BUT AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, I WAS GOING TO SEE IF THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO OUR COMMISSIONER AND DISTRICT 2. AND SORT OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

THAT TELLS ME WHERE I AM IS A WAY TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GET.

FOLLOWING OUR LEGAL ADVICE. SO, WITH THAT SAID ÃÃANYTHING ELSE?

>>NO SIR. >>SO, LET'S DO PUBLIC HEARING. >>WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. [LAUGHTER]

[INDISCERNIBLE] >>GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M BILL LESSARD WITH ST.

JOHN'S PARTNERSHIP FIVE G5 WEST KINGS STREET. THIS IS YEARS OVERDUE.

ANYTHING Y'ALL CAN DO TO SPEED THIS UP AND IMPROVE IT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS HELP.

IT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT SHAWNA'S REPORT ÃÃ IT'S EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT TO FIND FORMAL HOUSING PICK SHANNON HAS TO SIT THERE AND SAY TO PEOPLE IN CERTAIN INCOME BRACKETS.HESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY RENTING TO NOW THAT WORKING ON PEOPLE THAT WORK AT THE SERVICE INDUSTRY.

AND THEY ARE BEING FORCED OUT OF THE COUNTY. WE'VE GOT TO CREATE SOME MORE AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES. I KNOW IN THE LAND OF "JUSTICE THERE'S A MAXIMUM OF FIVE YEARS DEFERRAL AND THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS. BUT THE GOVERNOR'S TASK FORCE

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THERE IS A WHOLE HOST OF OPPORTUNITIES. OTHER THAN SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO DEFER FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND ONE BIG FALLACY OF IMPACT FEE STUDIES IS THAT IT NEVER TAKES INTO ACCOUNT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HALF OF YOUR WORKFORCE IS COMMITTING IN FROM ANOTHER COUNTY. WE ARE LOSING PEOPLE.

WE'VE GOT RESTAURANTS ARE CLOSED. WE LOSE PEOPLE TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON NEW TRAINING PROGRAMS. I THINK Y'ALL HAVE ISSUES STAFFING UP IN SOME CASES.

WE'VE GOT TO CREATE MORE AND LOOKING IMPACT FEES AND A WAIVER AND A PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT PUT THEM ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S NOT GONNA BREAK THE BUDGET. [LAUGHTER] YOU WILL NOT EVEN NOTICE. WISH WE COULD HAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND UNITS BUILT IN THE NEXT YEAR. IT'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY JUST TO GET THIS PROJECT GOING.

LONG OVERDUE AND WILL BE A HUGE ASSET. IN WEST AUGUSTINE.

IT WILL STABILIZE ALMOST 100 HOUSEHOLDS AND IT WILL STABILIZE THEM FOR THE NEXT YOU KNOW, HUNDRED YEARS, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET INTO THIS BUSINESS, THEY DO NOT LET YOU OUT NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY THINKS. SO, PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT YOU CAN DO TODAY MOVING FORWARD. E NEED THAT. THANK YOU.

>>THANK YOU. YES MA'AM. WELCOME.

>>GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 895 S. WILLIS STREET. ON HERE BEHALF OF THE SAINT AUGUSTINE STEERING COMMITTEE, AS WEST AUGUSTINE, WE IN C. FINANCIALLY, WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND THE THEY ARE AS STATED. ONLY GIVE THE HISTORY AS STATED. THIS WAS NOT AROUND. THIS PROJECT DID NOT START TODAY BUT THIS STARTED MANY YEARS AGO BY THE UNOFFICIAL MEMBERS OF THIS DISH I DID IT TO BRING THIS PROJECT FORWARD. AS YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE, THIS WAS REQUIRED BY THE WEST OFFICER OF THE CVC TO ACQUIRE A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH THE COMMISSION IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. AND STAFF THEY CAME TOGETHER WITH WHO CANNOT EVEN ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY. IT'S PURCHASED FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON POLLUTION STREET BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC IN WEST AUGUSTINE. THE EXCESS LAND ÃÃTHERE WERE NO PLANS FOR. AND WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO FIND A WAY TO BRING UP THE BOARD OF HOUSING IN. WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT IN A DREAM ÃÃAND A VISION TO PURSUE THIS.O, WE SAID GO AHEAD AND BELIEVE ROAD OF PREDEVELOPMENT LOAN AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND ACQUIRING $400,000 PLUS TO HELP WITH THE PREDEVELOPMENT FACE FUND THIS PROJECT. SO, WE PUT THIS ON THE TABLE LONG AGO.

AND SINCE TENT WITH SAINT AUGUSTINE. AND TODAY, WE ARE HERE TODAY TO BRING JUSTICE AS YOU KNOW, WITH INCREASED COST THAT'S JUST A FORMAL HOUSING IS HARD.

IT'S HARD IN THE COMMUNITIES LIKE US. WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE OUR FOUNDATION IN PLACE IN THIS OPPORTUNITY AROSE WITH A FORMAL HOUSING CAME TO THE TABLE AND AGREED TO GO TO PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WE'RE ALMOST THERE IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY. WE'RE ALMOST THERE. IT'S, LIKE THE LITTLE TRAIN THAT COULD. WISH I COULD. I KNOW I CAN AND I THINK I CAN. I KNOW WE CAN DO THIS TODAY.

WE NEED YOUR HELP. WHETHER YOU SUPPORT MAKE THIS SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS WEST AUGUSTINE IS ON THE NEW TRACK BECAUSE OF YOU.

WE'RE ALMOST THERE, THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU ALL. >>HELLO.

>>GOOD EVENING. >>MY NAME IS DOCTOR MARGARET EPPERSON.

I LIVE AT 840 E. EASTON STREET. IN WEST AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

THE BOARD OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE UPCOMING PROJECTS. CODENAMED THE VILLAGE OF WEST AUGUSTINE.

ORE IMPORTANTLY, I ASKED YOU HERE TO CONSIDER MAKING THIS MORE PROJECT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR OUR YOUNG TEACHERS, OUR NURSES, OUR COOKS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, JUST TO NAME A FEW. SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE AND THEIR CHILDREN CAN PLAY AND GO TO SCHOOL AND HISTORICAL WEST SAINT AUGUSTINE. OUR CHILDREN ÃÃOUR GRANDCHILDREN ÃÃOUR NIECES, NEPHEWS ÃÃTHEY ALL GO AWAY TO COLLEGE.

AND COME BACK TO NO PLACE OF THEIR OWN TO CALL HOME. THEY LIVE WITH PARENTS ÃÃOR SOME OTHER RELATIVES. OR JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER TOWN OR STATE.

WHERE LIVING IS MORE AFFORDABLE. WE BELIEVE TO HELP ALLEVIATE THIS HEARTBREAKING PROBLEM THAT THE WORKING CLASS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND YES, MYSELF.

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LIVING IN DENVER. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>>HELLO. I AM URBAN BULLOCK. 370 COASTAL HIGHWAY.

AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT BOTH CARE AND GOOD TROUBLE. I'VE GOT TO VISIT ABILITY IN JACKSONVILLE THIS YEAR AND IT JUST AMAZED ME. IT WAS SO IMPRESSIVE.

WHEN I VISITED MOST OF Y'ALL LAST YEAR ÃÃWHEN I CAME IN WITH THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA AND HOME AGAIN, I BROUGHT YOU PICTURES BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO SEE WHAT THIS CAN LOOK LIKE.

I THINK WE HAVE SOME OLD OUTDATED IDEAS OF WHAT THIS KIND OF HOUSING LOOK LIKE.

IF YOU GO TO JACKSONVILLE AND SEE THEIR ABILITY AND HOUSING NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY HAVE RAISED THEIR VALUE OF PROPERTY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WANT THEM THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS KIND OF EFFECT. SO, THIS IS TO ME, WHEN I HEARD THAT WE GOT THIS AND I JUST HEARD THIS RECENTLY. I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD WON THE LOTTERY AND LITERALLY, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. E WON THE LOTTERY.

SO, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS. A WAIVER IF POSSIBLE.

A DEFERMENT IF NOT. WE DO NOT WANT TO LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THIS IS AMAZING. IT'S CRITICAL. AND IF WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM, WE NEED TO HELP HOUSE

THEM. SO, THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU.

R. WHITE? WELCOME. >>GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD AFTERNOON. REG WHITE. 905 WEST PEARL STREET IN HISTORICAL WEST AUGUSTINE. I WANT TO BRING UP A POINT. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS IMMEDIATELY WENT TO ONE OF OUR GREATEST HURDLES AS WE BEGIN TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WE BEGIN TO MOVE TO ECONOMICAL DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL. IT WAS ALWAYS SEWER AND WATER.

TO OUR SURPRISE, THE CRA NEGOTIATED WITH THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE SEVERAL YEARS BACK. AND WE OBTAINED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WHAT WE CALL OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORE DOOR. THAT WAS UNPRECEDENTED THAT THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE WOULD ACTUALLY RUN SEWER AND WATER WITHOUT AN APPLICANT. WHERE SHE STATED THAT IT TRIGGERED MY THOUGHTS BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY DIFFICULT DOING THAT TIME PERIOD.

I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AND I SUPPORT THAT WE EITHER DEFER OR WAIVER THE IMPACT FEE TO MAKE OUR DREAMS COME TRUE. ONE OF OUR DREAMS COME TRUE. THE QUESTION MIGHT BE ASKING FOR THOSE THAT NEED NOT FOR ME ÃÃCERTAINLY YOU SAY I AM ALIVE, WHAT IS THAT? AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME. LET'S BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR ONE.

ABILITY HOUSING IS GOING TO 30 PERCENT OF THE AMI FOR JAKE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

LET'S DO A REAL NUMBER. MY SERVICE INDUSTRY AND MY YOUNG CNA'S CAN DIGEST THIS.

30 PERCENT MEANING THAT YOU COULD MAKE RECORDING TO THE STATUS IN 2019, TWO PEOPLE.

YOU CAN MAKE 31,000 OVER 50 A YEAR. AND THAT EQUATES TO $776 A MONTH FOR RENT UNIT. THIS IS NOT THE WORKFORCE BUT DOES NOT GET CONFUSED.

81 PERCENT AND ABOVE IS CONSIDERED WORKFORCE. WE'RE TALKING LOWER AND TALKING LOWER. IT'S TIME TO PULL THE TRIGGER, OKAY? AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. >>THANK YOU MR. WHITE. >>THANK YOU.

>>HELLO THERE, WELCOME. >>HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M VICKI PEPPER. I LIVE ON A HARBOR MIST CIRCLE AND SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING CARE. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT CARE POLICE MARKETING MUST ESTABLISH A PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS EVERYONE IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. THAT'S FOR ANOTHER MEETING. TODAY, I WANT TO URGE YOU TO WAIVE OR DEFER THE IMPACT FEES ASSESSED FOR THE VILLAGE WEST OF AUGUSTINE FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS REQUESTED.

CARE HASN'T COUNTED ÃÃCARE AGREEMENTS SHARES THE BUILDERS VISION WAREHOUSING IS A RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE AND ALL INDIVIDUALS HAVE SAFE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IN VIBRANT COMMUNITIES. ABILITIES VILLAGE IN WEST AUGUSTINE 92 UNITS FOR MUCH

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LOSING THE VILLAGE OF WEST AUGUSTINE WOULD BE A TRAGEDY. NOT ONLY FOR WEST AUGUSTINE, BUT FOR ALL OF US IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. CARE IS HOPING THAT THE VILLAGE OF WEST AUGUSTINE WILL LEAD THE WAY AS JUST ONE OF MANY SIMILAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE STATUS IDEA OF WRITING A PROVISION FOR THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR ANOTHER DEFERRAL REGULATION.

BECAUSE THIS CAN ONLY HELP FACILITATE BRINGING OTHER DEVELOPERS WILLING TO WORK IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPACE AND OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THE VILLAGE OF WEST AUGUSTINE TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. OWEVER, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING. THE ABILITY NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ITS VILLAGE OF THE WEST AUGUSTINE PROJECT. THEY KNEW THE ABILITY TO BE PERMANENT AND ON WITH THE DEVELOPER. AND IT'S PROJECT IS 100 PERCENT AFFORDABLE.

THAT'S 60 PERCENT AIM HIGHER OR LESS. WHICH WILL PROVIDE HOUSING FOR MUCH NEEDED IN WEST AUGUSTINE. CHARACTERS NOT WANT THE STAFF Ã ÃWE DO THINK THAT THIS IS ABOUT DAN SITUATION. CARING DOES NOT WANT THE STAFF TO FEEL THE PRESSURE OF RUSHING TO REGULATION DUE TO THE ABILITIES TIME PRESSURES. WE WANT THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TIME NECESSARY TO DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT WILL APPROPRIATELY DEFINE THE CRITERIA FOR OBTAINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WAVING DEFERRAL OF IMPACT FEES.

AND AVOID ANY NIPPLES THAT HAVE UNSCRUPULOUS DEVELOPERS THAT MIGHT SEEK TO DESTROY.

WE URGE YOU TO WAIVE THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE VILLAGE OF WEST AUGUSTINE PROJECT AND ALSO

DIRECT THE STAFF IN THAT LANGUAGE. >>THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>AND SHANNON AS WITH THE COMMITTEE OF HOUSING. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

I WANT TO THINK THAT AUGUSTINE CCC AND WE STARTED THIS PROJECT SIX YEARS AGO WITH THE CDC AND MEETING WITH THEM AND COMING UP WITH THIS PROJECT CONCEPT. WE DID APPLY THREE TIMES.

THIS APPLICATION ACTUALLY WENT IN AND OF AUGUST 2021. SINCE THEN, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE PERCENT COST IN OUR OVERALL. WE CANNOT HAVE THAT MUCH TO COVER THE COST OF THE PROJECT. YOUR SUPPORT IS ABSOLUTELY CHERISHED AND WE CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THE EFFORT AND SUPPORT BOTH FOR STAFF AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THIS COMMUNITY AND YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY.

>>THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE ONE MORE?

YES MA'AM. HELLO. >>HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DOCTOR TONYA BLAKE AND I A MEMBER ÃÃCHRISTIAN MINISTRY AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE DEFERMENT OF THE ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] I KNOW A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS, BASICALLY BECAUSE IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT I WILL DO TO SEE PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I AM AN ANNEX EDUCATOR OF 32 YEARS RETIRED.

AND WHEN I STARTED OUT ÃÃI WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE HAD A PLACE LIKE THIS.

SEEING HOW PRICES HAVE INCREASED, I FEEL THAT THIS IS THE BEST THING TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD. SO, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT AND ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOES THROUGH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN SEE IT WAIVED. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU DOCTOR BLAKE.

YES SIR. >>ANTHONY BRITTANY. 72 18 SANDY BLUFF DRIVE IN JACKSONVILLE. THE PASTOR OF MY RIGHT. MY ADMINISTRATION IS 676 IT COMMISSIONER STREET. RETIRED 20 YEARS OF SERVICE THERE.

AND I'M ON THE SAME PERMIT. I'M ALSO 32'S SUPER FROM A SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUE.

BEING A NATIVE OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, IT'S GOOD TO BE HOME.

LISTEN, I GOT HOME. WHEN I SPEAK TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE IN MY CONGREGATION AND OTHER PASTORS, BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT IN THE WEST SAINT AUGUSTINE AND ABILITY OF MEDICAL CLINIC, MY MESSAGES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRONG BECAUSE WE HAVE HOPE TO THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE GOOD LUCK, YOU GO TO SCHOOL, YOU GET EDUCATION, YOU WORK HARD, YOU

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THE ABILITY AND THAT SOME OTHERS ARE DOING THAT'S GOING OUT AND IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE SEEING IT. SINCE I'VE BEEN HOME AND RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY, I KNOW THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I'M IN SUPPORT.

LET'S WAIVE THE WHOLE FEE. [LAUGHTER] WERE DIFFERENT. BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THE PEOPLE, THEY UNDERSTAND AND THEY KNOW THAT WE CARE AND WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU.>>HALF OF ALL THIS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

YOUR SERVICE. >>THANK YOU. >>OKAY, AND THE SUN

>>NOBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ON CLOSING PUBLIC, PICK

>>SORRY, NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT IS BEING CLOSED. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AT THIS POINT? >>I'M SEEKING DIRECTION, SIR.

>>DIRECTION? ALL RIGHT.WE'RE GONNA HELP SHAWNA HERE OUT WITH SOME DIRECTION. [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD?

>>I'M GONNA NEED SOME HELP FROM LEGAL THOUGH TO MAKE SURE I GET THE WORDING RIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION IF WE WOULD LIKE THAT.

I WANT TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD. FEASIBILITY IS THE GOLD STANDARD. I WOULD AGREE TO WITH WHAT ALL OF YOU SAID.

WE WON THE LOTTERY ON THIS ONE. HIS PROJECT IS TOO IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOSE.

AND SO, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BRIDGE THE GAP AND TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO MAKE THIS A REALITY IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO æ >>OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE? WAIVE THE FEES RIGHT NOW. LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION OF DEFERRING IS PROBABLY THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION PEER HOPEFULLY 16 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN IT BECOMES DUE, WE WILL BE IN A POSITION AS A COUNTY TO WAIVE IT, BUT RIGHT NOW, I AGREE WITH YOU AND YOUR SUGGESTIONS MR.

CHAIRMAN. >>ALL RIGHT. >>SO, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO DEFER. EMILY HOUSES IMPACT FEE FOR SENIORS.

>>SO, THROUGH THE CHAIR, THIS STRUCTURE I THINK ÃÃTHE MOTION IS TO PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE CODE FOR OUR DEFERRAL. FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FOR ADDITIONAL TIME PERIOD BEYOND THE FIVE-YEAR THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

>>ALL RIGHT. SO MOVED.

[LAUGHTER] >ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? LET'S VOTE.

[13 . Code Enforcement Discussion]

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >>YES. >>COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>>YES. >>COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >>YES.

>>COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, ARE YOU BACK WITH THIS? I THINK HE HAD A BRIEF AGENDA OR SOMETHING. HE MIGHT STILL BE BRIEFING. AND I VOTE YES.

THAT PASSES THROUGH. WE'VE GOT TO GO BRIEF GENERAL. >>THANKS.

>>THANK YOU SHAUNA. [APPLAUSE]

>>OKAY GUYS. THANKS FOR SHOWING UP. AND OFFERING SUPPORT.

THAT TAKES US TO 13 AND I BELIEVE THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM.

AND THAT IS MR. MEGAN'S AT THIS POINT TO GIVE US THE BRIEFING ON OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OF

WHERE WE STAND. >>GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. DAVID A COUNTY ATTORNEY.T YOUR DECEMBER 6 MEETING DURING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, IT WAS BROUGHT UP ÃÃTHE REQUEST WAS MADE AND THERE WAS A CONSENSUS FOR A DISCUSSION ON CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS IN GENERAL AND THE COUNTY. AND THEN THE REQUEST FOR A FOCUS ON TOOLS OR MECHANISMS POSSIBLY AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS UNKEMPT PROPERTIES. AND ISSUES WITH FENCING.

SO, I HAVE CREATED A BRIEF SUMMARY FOR YOU ALL. AND AT THE END, I WILL SEE IF THERE'S ANY POOR DIRECTION. I WILL GLADLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.O, MECHANICAL OVER EVERY SINGLE WORD, BECAUSE THAT WILL PUT YOU TO SLEEP. WORK BY STATE LAW. STATE LAW.

CODE ENFORCEMENT. THERE ARE THREE MAIN MECHANISMS. ONE IS CODE ALTERNATIVE. YOU CAN ONE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OR MAGISTRATE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES. GIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF THEY COULD ISSUE CITATIONS IF THEY DETERMINED TO THEIR INVESTIGATIONS THAT A VIOLATION OF THE COUNTY CODE HAS OCCURRED. AND THEN THE ALLEGED VIOLATOR HAVE A RIGHT TO A HEARING ON THAT THEY SO CHOOSE. AND UNDER FLORIDA LAW, THAT COULD GO BEFORE A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. THE COUNTY IN 2007 DECIDED TO GO WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ROUTE. IN THE PAST, THEY HAD A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AND 22,007 Ã ÃTHEY SWITCHED IT. I'M BRIEFLY GONNA TALK ABOUT

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SO, AS I SAID, 2007, WE SET UP A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PROCESS AND UNDER THAT PROCESS, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PUBLISHER COURT OFFER A CITATION AND THE VIOLATORS GAVE REASON ABOUT AMOUNT OF TIME TO CORRECT THE VIOLATION. IF THEY DO NOT CORRECT THE VIOLATION AND THE TIMEFRAME ALLOTTED, THEN THE CODE INSPECTOR WOULD NOTIFY SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND REQUEST A HEARING. A HEARING IS HELD AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WILL HEAR EVIDENCE FROM BOTH SIDES AND THEN SHALL ISSUE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW ON THAT MATTER. SO, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ORDER AND THE CONCLUSION OF THE EVIDENCE ÃÃIF HE FINDS THE VIOLATOR GUILTY, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO OPPOSE PINES UP TO $1000 PER DAY PER VIOLATION PER FIRST VIOLATION AND $5000 PER DAY PER VIOLATION FOR REPEAT VIOLATION. NOW, NOT , BUT IMPORTANT IS IN GENERAL. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WILL GRANT A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO CORRECT THE DEFICIENCY. SUCH AS 30 DAYS. AND IF THEY DON'T, THE FUNDS WOULD ACCRUE AFTER 30 DAYS. THE COUNTY STAFF WOULD THEN RECORD THAT BORDER IN THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND IT WILL CONSTITUTE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY OF THE LAND WHICH THE VIOLATION EXISTS.

FTER THREE MONTHS, IF THE LIEN IS STILL IN THE PROPERTY, THE COUNTY COULD AND MOST DRASTIC CASE SEEKS AUTHORIZATION IN THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO FORECLOSE UPON LAND, PROVIDED THAT IT IS NOW HOMESTEAD. BEFORE I GO INTO THIS NEXT SLIDE, LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO TAKE SOMEONE'S LAND.

THE GOAL IS TO HAVE COMPLIANCE. WE HAVE COUNTY CODE SET UP TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF RESIDENTS. THE GOAL IS TO GET THE VIOLATIONS CORRECTED.

WE HAVE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WHERE ISSUES ARE NOT CORRECTED AND IT'S A DETRIMENT TO THE SURRENDERED COMMUNITY. SO, WE DO HAVE THIS PROCESS. WHEN TERRY I GUESS TO HAVE SOME TEETH AGAINST VIOLATOR WHO REFUSES OR OTHERWISE IS UNABLE TO CORRECT THE PROPERTY.

DEFICIENCIES.ODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF WILL TRY TO WORK WITH THE BEST THEY CAN.

BUT IF WE HAVE A DEFINED OR OTHERWISE ABSENTEE VIOLATOR, WE DO HAVE THIS PROCESS IN THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. THAT THIRD OPTION I TALKED ABOUT ÃÃWE COULD FILE A CITATION FOR A VIOLATION OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE. THIS WILL GO TO COURT.

IT'S A SIMILAR CASE. NOT A CRIMINAL CASE. AND THE JUDGE COULD IMPOSE A FINE OF UP TO $500 IF THE VIOLATOR CONTESTS THE FINE AND IS FOUND GUILTY.

SO, ON THIS NOTICE TO APPEAR IN COUNTY COURT, SOME OF THE PROS TO THIS APPROACH IS I BELIEVE OUR FILING FEE FOR CASES LIKE THIS.T'S $18. WE ARE NOT EXERTING AS MUCH OF THE TAXPAYERS MONEY VERSUS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THE CURRENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THAT WE JUST BROUGHT UNDER CONTRACT THROUGH COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS CHARGES $240 AN HOUR.

THIS OPTION ALSO COULD BE MORE COST-EFFECTIVE. THIS OPTION DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH TEETH IF YOU WILL. WHERE THE WORST PERSON CAN BE LIABLE FOR ANY CITATIONS THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM WOULD BE $500. SO, THOSE ARE THE THREE GENERAL APPROACHES. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PER THE ONE THAT WE NO LONGER USES THE COURT ENFORCEMENT BOARD.THE TWO THAT WE CAN CURRENTLY USE RIGHT NOW IS THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PROCESS IN THE COUNTY COURT PROCESS. ONE LAST THOUGHT ON THAT BEFORE I TURNED TO UNKEMPT PROPERTY, WE RECENTLY TESTED SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, WE RECENTLY BROUGHT ON BOARD WAS COMPLETED IN THE LAST 30 OR 60 DAYS. BEFORE THAT, OUR CONTRACT WITH THE PREVIOUS SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAS EXCUSE ME, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CONTRACT HAD EXPIRED. WE DO HAVE AT LEAST SOME PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE HAVE ONE AVAILABLE IN THE COURT SYSTEM FOR WE ARE BACK TO THE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

SO, THE SECOND THING THE BOARD ASKED ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 6 MEETING WAS DEALING WITH UNKEMPT PROPERTIES AND FENCING ISSUES AND WEEDS. NOW, WE DO HAVE REGULATION ON FENCE HEIGHTS THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.

IN GENERAL, SIDE AND REAR FENCE HEIGHTS COULD BE UP TO SIX FEET TALL AND FRONT FENCE HEIGHTS COULD BE UP TO FOUR FEET TALL EXCEPT IN OUR DISTRICT. WORDS GENERALLY FOUR FEET TALL FOR A FENCE. ALMOST ANY PART OF THE LAW OF JUSTICE THERE'S LIMITED

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THE OTHER QUESTION WAS LANDSCAPING AND MAINTENANCE AND UNKEMPT PROPERTY AND IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN ÃÃWE DO HAVE TWO REGULATIONS THAT I FOUND IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ABOUT LANDSCAPING MAINTENANCE.OWEVER, THESE PROVISIONS ONLY APPLY TO LANDSCAPE PROPERTIES. SO, AN ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE IF IT'S IN UNAPPROVED PROPERTY PREVIOUS CODE VIOLATIONS WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE.AND ARGUABLY ÃÃTHE TWO PROVISIONS THAT WE FOUND IN THE LENDABLE AND CODE ONLY ALLOW THE COUNTY TO CITE THE PROPERTY.

DOES NOT PRACTICE ANY SORT OF AUTHORITY TO TAKE ACTION OURSELVES WITH WEEDS AND UNKEMPT PROPERTY. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT CAN ATTRACT RODENTS, SNAKES, VERMIN, AND OTHER DANGEROUS CONDITIONS THAT CAN AFFECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND HEALTH OF OUR RESIDENTS. AS I ALLUDED TO EARLIER, THE MAIN CODE OF ENFORCEMENT IS BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT TAKE THIS STEP? WE COULD CITE THEM AS I RESET, BUT SPECIFICALLY, THIS UNKEMPT PROPERTY, THERE CAN BE TIMES OR YOU WANT TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM OURSELVES. BECAUSE IT'S TAKING TOO LONG AND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH THAT THOUGH.

WE CANNOT GO INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT CONSENT. THEIR CONCERNS AND SUCH.

I DID SINCE THE BOARDS DIRECTION ON THIS ÃÃWAS REACHING OUT TO SEVERAL JURISDICTIONS. I SPOKE TO AT LEAST THREE AND THEN I TEND IT'S BECOMING MORE AND LESS WEAKNESS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE JUSTICE MY SCHEDULE WENT AWRY.

VOLUSIA COUNTY PUTNAM COUNTY, COLLIER COUNTY JUSTICE CITY OF NORTHPORT JUSTICE THE CITY OF FORT MYERS AND CAPE CORAL LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE. SPOKE TO TWO ATTORNEYS WITH CAPE CORAL. AS WELL. AND THERE ORDINANCE.

SO, THESE JURISDICTIONS ALL HAVE ORDINANCES THAT ALLOW THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO ENTER ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. TO REMEDY AND UNKEMPT PROPERTY WEEDS ISSUE.

SO NOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL RESTRICTIONS IN THIS ORDINANCES TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. THERE IS NOTICE, THERE IS TIME TO CORRECT IT, THERE IS MINIMAL STANDARDS ON KEY VIOLATIONS SUCH AS MOST JURISDICTIONS SAY 12 INCHES.

OR HIGHER FOR WEEDS. IN ONE JURISDICTION IN THE KATHY BELIEVES THE 18 INCHES Ã ÃTHAT WEEDS HAVE TO BE AT LEAST THAT ALL BEFORE SOMETHING COMES OUT.

AND THEY USE THESE SPARINGLY. IDEALLY, THE FIRST STEP IS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO FIX THE CONDITION THEMSELVES. BUT IF THEY ARE UNWILLING OR UNABLE OR ABLE TO PLEASE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, I FIND THAT THESE JURISDICTIONS DO HAVE ORDINANCES THAT ALLOW THEM TO ENTER ONTO THE PROPERTY FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURE TO DUE PROCESS REQUIREMENTS AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCES AS WE DID A SEARCH.

SO IF DESIRED, IF THE DIRECTION OF THE SPORT JUST AS I WILL YOU YIELD TO YOUR DISCUSSION, AND ORDINANCE CAN BE DRAFTED THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COUNTY TO UPDATE CONDITION OF WEEDS AND OVERGROWTH AND OTHER UNKEMPT PROPERTY ISSUES THAT, SHOULD THE PROPERTY OWNER FAILED TO TAKE ACTION WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME, WE CAN ENTER ONTO THE PROPERTY, TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN RECOUP OUR ACTUAL COST.

T WOULD NOT BE A PROPHET OR MONEY GENERATING ENDEAVOR. IT'S A SAFETY ENDEAVOR.

AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RECOUP OUR COSTS. SO, WITH THAT, THAT'S WHAT MY RESEARCH IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT I'VE HAD WITH THIS. HAS YIELDED.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. >OKAY, DAVID, YOU'RE LOOKING

ALSO FOR A DIRECTION OF THE BOARD. >>IF THE BOARD SO DESIRES, YES.

>>QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO DAVID? >>SURE.

>>THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. WE HAD A SITUATION IN DISTRICT 1 WHERE THERE'S CARS THAT ARE BASICALLY BEING PAIRED ON THE FRONT LAWN. THIS IS GONE BEFORE THAT MAGISTRATE. IN ADDITION TO MOWING AND KEEPING UP ON UNKEMPT PROPERTIES, CAN WE ALSO TOE AWAY CARS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY ILLEGALLY PARKED IN THE FRONT YARDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? DOES IT LIMIT THE ORDINANCE AND LIMIT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE? WOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST LAWN

CARE? >>SO, I FOCUSED MY RESEARCH ON LAWN CARE AND I DID FIND SOME PROVISIONS RELATED TO JOINT AND ABANDONED CARS. I DID LOOK AT THAT ESPECIALLY CLOSELY. I CANNOT GIVE YOU A FIRM ANSWER TODAY.

BUT WE CAN TRY TO CRAFT SOMETHING THE BEST THAT WE CAN. BASED ON WHAT THE LAWS OUT THERE EXACTLY SAY AND I DON'T HAVE THAT LOT MEMORIZED BECAUSE I ONLY TOOK A CURSORY GLANCE AT

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I COULD GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER AND FUTURE MEETING. >>IN THE SPIRIT OF BRINGING PEOPLE INTO COMPLIANCE, I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND I LIKE TO EVEN GO FURTHER IF THE LAW

ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. >>OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, THEY'RE BOTH ÃÃ [INDISCERNIBLE] UNAVAILABLE? OKAY.

WELL, THAT COMPLETES ÃTHIS AND THINK ÃÃWE DO NOT NEED TO MAKE OR GIVE ANY DIRECTION AND

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>>YES. >>THANK YOU DAVID. I APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. AND WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE

RATED READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO >>AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADJUST THE BOARD SHOULD APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SAY HIS OR HER NAME.

AN ADDRESS. EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH THE RULES OF THE DECOR. JUST AS A BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER AND MAY NOT DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD.NO PERSON MAY JUST THE POINT WITH ANY PERSONAL OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS WITH BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR.

ÃÃDISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. FINALLY, I WILL ASK ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS OVERHEAD MATERIAL PRESENTED MATERIAL TO THE BOARD, THANK YOU.

>>JOSEPH, 124 ÃÃDRIVE. I DO QUESTION FOR THE LAST DISCUSSION.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT? I WAS JUST WONDERING ON CONSTRUCTION SITES ÃJUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR THEM AND WHEN THEY AREN'T UNDER CODE, WHAT DO YOU DO? THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT.

>>DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ISSUE? CONSTRUCTION SITES?

>>I APOLOGIZE, IS DEBRIEFED ON THAT LAST AGENDA ITEM AT THE DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>>WELL, HOW ABOUT TO PARAPHRASE, QUESTIONS ÃÃTHERE IS SOMETHING FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE GRAY OF LEFT CONSTRUCTION SITES ÃÃA LITTLE BIT LESS THAN CLEANED UP.

AND TO BE ADJUSTED IN ANY PARTICULAR CODE? WE NEEDED TO THAT AT ALL?

>>LET ME DEFER TO THE DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT ON THAT. >>MR. CHAIR, [INDISCERNIBLE] COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE THAT NUMBER ONE WOULD ADDRESS CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLAINTS, OFTEN AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WITH THE EQUIPMENT BUT THAT MIGHT BE ONE AREA WHERE THE PUBLIC SPEAKER HAD A QUESTION ON OTHERWISE DISTANCE REHAB AND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS. FOR ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITES.

SUCH AS MAKING SURE ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS PUT AWAY PROPERLY. MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE DRAINAGE AND FENCES AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE ALSO HAVE MEDICAL CONSTRUCTION. YOU HAVE THIS DISH RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US, BUT HE IS A BILLING CODE THIS DISH OFFICIAL. AND IMPLEMENTS THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, WHICH HAS REQUIREMENTS AND IN GENERAL, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY CODE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALL KIND OF TALK TOGETHER AND MR. POTTER AND ENFORCEMENT MANAGER TO DEAL WITH. IT IS A CONGLOMERATION OF DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND THINGS TO ADDRESS IT. AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT COVERED,

WE [INDISCERNIBLE] >>MIKE, EITHER YOU OR HOWARD, THEY WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER JOSEPH. 30S BEFORE THE DISCUSSION.

OKAY? >>COPY. >>ALL RIGHT.

NEXT? >>GOOD AFTERNOON.>GOOD AFTERNOON SAID TO BE EVENING.

24 YEARS AGO THE WORLD HALL OF FAME OPEN UP. >>SIR, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

I AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT.ANY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PER >>MY NAME IS JASON MACEK.

1624 SUGARLOAF LANE. >>24 YEARS AGO, THE WORLD GOLF HALL OF FAME OPEN TO I 95 AN INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. THE PUD PLANNED COMMUNITY CALLED WORLD GOLF VILLAGE HALL.

INCE THEN, EXPLOSIVE GROWTH AND CHANGE, BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.

HOWEVER, CHANGE IS COMING AND WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT OF ALL.

ON JULY 20 ÃJUST A HALL OF FAME ANNOUNCED THAT IT WILL BE MOVING NEXT YEAR.

NO SURPRISE THERE WILL BE JUST AS IT EXPIRES IN 2023. AND ST. JOHN'S COUNTY OWNS A LARGE PART OF THAT. TODAY, THE TERM WILL GOLF VILLAGE IS A BRAND.

A GOOD ONE. THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE HAS TAKEN ON A NEW MEETING.

ANNA REPRESENTS AN AREA MUCH LARGER THAN THE ORIGINAL PUD. REAL ESTATE FIRMS AND OTHER BUSINESSES MARKETED THE TERM TO ATTRACT CUSTOMERS. WHY? BECAUSE THE BRAND IS AN ASSET. IT IS OUR COMMUNITY'S NAMESAKE. IT IS POSITIVE AND HAS VALUE

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THIS LOCATION IS WHAT I CALL THE ANCHOR OF OUR IDENTITY AS A COMMUNITY.

WE WILL ALL SEE THE EFFECT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUE. RIGHT THERE IS JUST WE HAVE A WORLD-CLASS GOLF COURSE. THE MARRIOTT HOTEL AND RESORT COUNTY ZONE CONVENTION CENTER.

I AM ONE) COMMERCIAL RETAIL AN IMAX THEATER AND MORE. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF WHAT DEVELOPS ON THIS PRIME PROPERTY. WE DEPEND ON YOU TO WORK WITH THESE STAKEHOLDERS.'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT MY THOUSANDS OF HOMEOWNERS IMPACTED.

DEVELOP WAYS TO KEEP THE RESIDENTS INFORMED WITH FACTS. UP-TO-DATE.

AND CREATE WAYS FOR THEM TO PROVIDE INPUT AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESS.

REDUCE THE RUMORS THAT ARE ALREADY RUNNING RAMPANT. IN AUGUST 29 ÃÃTHE HALL OF FAME SAID AJAX DAILY RECORD REPORT QUOTE ÃÃWE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS FOR MONTHS.NCLUDING COUNTY OFFICIALS. AND W JV PARTNERS TO EVALUATE OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE. THAT PROCESS ALSO INCLUDES HEARING FROM THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE COMMUNITY. AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO BE THE BEST FUTURE USE FOR THE AREA.

HE ARTICLES STATES OPPORTUNITY. LET'S MAKE IT POSSIBLE.

COUNTLESS QUESTIONS WILL BE ASKED AND ANSWERED. TO START, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE COUNTY? WHO WILL FIND DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS? SHOULD THE MASTER PLAN BE UPDATED? IS A DEVELOPER NOW WORKING ON A NEW PLAN? HOW CAN OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS HELP YOU? TO SUMMARIZE, I ASK ÃJUST PROTECT THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE BRAND.

FACILITATE A TRANSACTION WITH THE MANY STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE INVOLVED ÃÃCOMMUNICATE TO THE HOMEOWNERS ÃJUST LISTEN TO THE HOMEOWNERS INPUT AND CREATE A PLAN FOR THIS MAJOR MAJOR CHANGE.ORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LIKE YOU.

>>LET ME RESPOND, SIR, SIR, LET ME RESPOND. I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ONE MOMENT. I WAS QUOTED IN THE PAPER IN JULY ÃÃWHAT I SAID ÃÃI THINK YOU WILL BE PLEASED WITH, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ON POINT WITH WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING.

HEN I SUGGESTED REPORTER I'M A LITTLE SADDENED ABOUT THE HALL OF FAME LEAVING FROM NORTH CAROLINA. BUT I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO TO REVITALIZE OR REVISION TO THE WHOLE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AREA AND I MADE A POINT OF STRESSING THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE TOWN HALL MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IN THIS GENERAL AREA THAT WERE NOT THERE IN 1998. IN THE HALL OF FAME OPEN. SO, SEVERAL THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. IN THE LAST YEAR THAT FOR THE FIRST SIX YEARS, ON THIS COMMISSION, MY DISTRICT COVERAGE OF NORTH GOLF VILLAGE JUSTICE COMMISSIONER ARNOLD DISTRICT. I WILL BE LOOKING TO HURT FOR LEADERSHIP AND I KNOW SHE WILL PROVIDE IT AS WE GO FORWARD WITH COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND SORT OF A CHARRETTE TO BORROW A WORD FROM THE 70S AND 80S AND GET INPUT ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE AREA.

I JUST FELT COMPELLED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE THOSE ARE MY STATEMENTS IN JULY.

>>THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATED FOR THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY PER

>>IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. LET'S KEEP IT GREAT. >>THANK YOU.

>>CHERRY BADGER, 772 S. COLLINS AVENUE. I KIND OF SWITCHED GEARS HERE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT. THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE COUNTY CAN DO ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT NOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS UNLESS THEY ARE THERE TO SEE THE TRUCKS STARTING TO COME AND AT 4 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

THIS CISCO TRUCK ÃTHAT SHE DOESN'T CARE WHAT TIME OF DAY IT IS PRETTY COMES IN AND DOES THREE POINT TERM, DOESN'T CARROTS IN HIS WAY OR CURB. OR ANYTHING.

SO, MAYBE SINCE Y'ALL NEED TO DEVELOP A NEW CODE ÃÃSINCE IT CANNOT BE ENFORCED.

WHEN YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING UP ÃÃTHESE SHAPE SHIFTERS ARE COMING UP AND SAYING THAT THEY WON'T HAVE ANY TRUCKS COME DOWN THAT ROAD. I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE GOT ENOUGH PICTURES JUSTICE OF GET THREE OLD PHONES. I KEEP JUST FOR THIS OCCASION.

THESE ARE RECENT PICTURES. SO, AT THE BURGER KING. MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP THE TRUCKS OUT OF A PLACES WHEN YOU APPROVE NO TRUCKS ÃÃMAYBE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IT WILL TAKE SOME HEAT OFF OF YOUR STAFF CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT'LL TAKE SOME HEAT OFF OF THE FIRE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. AND BJ IS NOT HERE TODAY SO, I'M GONNA SAY THIS FOR HER.

VOTE NO ON TAXES. I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS ÃÃI DON'T KNOW ÃÃI DON'T EVEN KNOW IF SHE'S OKAY.UT I SURE HOPE SHE IS.AND GOD BLESS, HAVE A GREAT DAY.

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>>THANK YOU MRS. PATRICK. YES SIR? >>CHUCK KLONOWSKI NORTH [INDISCERNIBLE] >THEM ON A CD BOARD. ALSO ON AN HOA BOARD.

IN BOTH OF THOSE MEETINGS ÃÃ WE HAD THE AUDIENCE WITH THE COMMENTS UPFRONT UNLESS IT'S AN

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THANKS. >>THANK YOU MR. LEBOWSKI? WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING THEM, WE'RE GONNA CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

>>OKAY, WITH THAT, WILL MOVE TO THE COMMISSION'S REPORTS AND START ON MY RIGHT ÃTO SHARE

WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >>THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO EXTEND A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO ALL COUNTY STAFF AND ALL VOLUNTEERS AND EVERYBODY WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY OVER THE LAST WEEK. IT WAS A VERY LONG AND VERY TRAINING AND VERY TRAUMATIC WEEK.T WAS I WAS SO IMPRESSED AND SO ENCOURAGED TO SEE IT REALLY COME TOGETHER AND WORK SO WELL TOGETHER. SO, THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR CURING ME THIS MORNING AND FOREVER AGREEING TO ALLOCATE SOME VERY MUCH-NEEDED SUPPORT TO OUR FIRE RESCUE TEAMS. SO, THANK YOU.

>>ALSO WANTED TO ASK THE STAFF AND I'M GLAD HE CAME AND SPOKE. THERE ARE A LOT OF RUMORS ABOUT THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE HALL OF FAME LEAVING AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE FINER DETAILS. BUT IF WE CAN GET THE MEMO OUT FOR SOME SORT OF PRESS RELEASE JUST SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT'S HAPPENING? IT MIGHT HELP TO DISPEL THAT AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON GETTING SOME OF THE TOWNHALL MEETINGS SET. SO, THANK YOU.

>>OKAY, THANK YOU. QUESTION? >>MY ONLY COMMENTS ON THE SAME LINES AS COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. SPENT SOME TIME AT THAT YOU HAVE SECRET ONLY FOR BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME. HIT STAFF FROM THE COUNTY DEMONSTRATOR ON DOWN THROUGH EVERY DEPARTMENT. IT STAFF FROM THE NORTHEAST CORNER ORIGINAL COUNSEL ACTUALLY LIVING AT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. I KNOW MR. CONRAD WAS SLEEPING IN A ROOM WHERE THE LIGHTS WOULD NOT TURN OFF. SO, I SAY ALL THAT JUST TO SAY THAT THEY REALLY DID WORK MORNING, NOON, AND NIGHT AND DEDICATION OF OUR STAFF AND OUR HEART AND CARE THAT THEY SHOW FOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY. SO, JUST VERIFIED WHATEVER HE KNEW ABOUT THEM. THAT'S WHY I THINK EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU.

>>OKAY, THANK YOU.WE HAVE COMMISSIONER WALDRON? ABOUT COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

NONE? >>OKAY. JUST LET ME HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS TO CLOSE WITH. EVERYONE THAT DID SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS IN WAYS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICES. DURING THE LAST WEEK. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE IT STRUCK ME THAT WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY THAT I CALL ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

SMALLER PLACES.UT WE USED TO HAVE WONDERFUL RESIDENTS WHO LIVED HERE AND I'M GONNA CITE THREE EXAMPLES. LAST THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW TYRONE BENNETT. HE OWNS AND OPERATES THE HEART AND SOUL FOOD TRUCK PRIMARILY IN WEST AUGUSTINE. BUT ALSO THIS SATURDAY MARKET. AND HE DONATED SANDWICHES PUT A WORD OUT AND DONATED I DON'T KNOW, A LOT. A LOT OF SANDWICHES TO THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED. GREG WHITE DID THE SAME THING. AT THE AMERICAN LEGION 194.

ND MICHAEL LUGO, WHO OWNS MICHAEL'S DOWNTOWN IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST CHEFS IN THIS PART OF THE STATE. HE HAD A HUGE MEALS MADE AVAILABLE AT BIRDS.

I THINK ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY. AND YOU KNOW, THEY DID NOT HAVE THE DO THAT.

THEY WERE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY THANK YOU. THEY STAY BECAUSE IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND THAT'S THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY.

I THINK. AND WE CAN BE PROUD OF IT. AND BE GRATEFUL FOR.

AND I WILL CLOSE WITH THIS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS IS REALLY REALLY GOOD BRIEFING FROM THE STAFF.FROM HUNTER. WE TOOK OFF THE MEETING TODAY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT AT LEAST IN MY OPINION ÃÃWE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME TOUGH, TOUGH BIG DECISIONS TO MAKE OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS REGARDING OUR COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND OUR BEACHES AND SHOES.

AREAS NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON PEOPLE AREAS WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE SOME HARD DECISIONS ABOUT. ND SO, WE JUST NEED TO BE PAIRED TO TACKLE THAT 100 POUND GORILLA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUSTICE IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK TO MANAGEMENT BEACHES WHEN YOU HAVE HURRICANE AFTER HURRICANE OR NOR'EASTER AFTER NOR'EASTER CULTURE SO IT GETS FRUSTRATING FOR SOME OF US. BUT TH

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