Sep 20, 2022 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

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>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE SEPTEMBER 20 COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING.

GLAD TO HAVE EVERYONE HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE ROLLCALL. COMMISSIONER WALDRON SHOULD BE CALLING IN. LET'S DO ROLLCALL AND HOPEFULLY

HE WILL BE JOINING US. >> CHAIR COMMISSIONER HENRY

DEAN. >> PRESENT.

>> VICE CHAIR CHRISTIAN WHITE HER.

>> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER SARAH ARNOLD.

>> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER PAUL WALDRON.

>> COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH BLOCKER.

>> PRESENT. >> I DID NOT HEAR PAUL.

>> ARE RIGHT WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT, MAYBE PAUL WILL BE JOINING US LATER, DAVID DON'T LET ME FORGET IF PAUL IS NOT JOINING US THEN WE CAN USE THE AUTOMATIC VOTE TALLY BUT IF HE DOES JOIN IN BY PHONE AND THEN WE DO A VOICE VOTE BY CALL.

>> CORRECT. >> WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE RABBI KAMINSKI. PLEASE STAND IT WILL HAVE INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE.

>> IN MORNING. >> MORNING.

>> A LITTLE JEWISH TRADITION THAT WHEN THERE'S A CONFLUENCE OF EVENTS WE TEND TO SAY DIVINE PROVIDENCE IS ALL CONNECTED.

WE HAVE ABOUT A WEEK FROM NOW IS THE JEWISH NEW YEAR AND ALSO JUST HAD AN ELECTION IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE IS BASEBALL SEASON IT'S REACHING BASEBALL PLAYOFFS FOR THOSE WHO FOLLOW. I WOULD THINK I WOULD MAKE A LITTLE PRAYER THAT COMBINES THESE EVENTS.

FORGIVE ME IF IT'S NOT SACRED ENOUGH.

MEDITATION ABOUT BASEBALL. ALMIGHTY GOD, AS WE STAND HERE A WEEK OR SO REMOVED FROM THE JEWISH NEW YEAR, IT'S ALSO THE END OF THE SUMMER, IF WE LOOK BACK AT THE PLANS THAT WE HAD IN JANUARY AND COMPARE THEM TO WHAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED, IT'S EASY TO BECOME DISCOURAGED. AND SO IT IS WITH ALL OF US, AS WE STAND, MOST OF US WELL INTO OUR CAREERS, WHATEVER WE HAVE ACHIEVED IS NOT NECESSARILY MATCHED UP TO THE HOPES WE STARTED OUT WITH, PERHAPS ELECTION HAS NOT GONE AWAY OR WE HAVEN'T SUCCEEDED IN SOME AREAS OF OUR LIFE THAT WE HAD HOPED FOR. WE TURN TO YOU AS IT IS ALMOST THE END OF THE REGULAR BASEBALL SEASON AND ASK YOU TO JUDGE US BY THE STANDARDS OF BASEBALL. WHEN SOMEONE WHOM IS A SEVEN OUT OF 10 TIMES THAT IS 300 AND A HALL OF FAMER.

WHEN YOU VALUE OUR PERFORMANCE, PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HOMERUN AND A FOUL BALL IS MERELY THE WIDTH OF A POLE. AND FROM OUR POSITION IN THE FIELD, IS ALWAYS DISTINGUISHED DIFFERENCE.

ADMIT THE ROSTER BACKUP INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENTS, TO JUSTIFY OURSELVES AND FOLKS BACK HOME, PLEASE REMIND US IT'S A TEAM GAME. AND THAT A SACRIFICE BUNT TO ADVANCE A COLLEAGUE COULD BE MORE VALUABLE THEN THE SHOW WE HIT THAT DOES LITTLE FOR THE ULTIMATE AGENDA.

INSTILL IN OUR HEARTS A TRUE APPRECIATION THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT MATTERS IS NOT WHETHER WE WIN OR LOSE BUT WHETHER WE PLAYED THE GAME AS INTEGRITY.

HELP US EXCEPT THAT AFTER ALL IS SAID AND DONE YOU DETERMINE THE RESULTS AND THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT YEAR.

AND WITH THESE LESSONS IN MIND, LET US BE BLESSED THAT MAY THIS YEAR BE A YEAR OF TREMENDOUS GROWTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR COUNTY AND OURSELVES PERSONALLY. MAY WE ALL BE BLESSED WITH A HAPPY, HEALTHY AND SWEET NEW YEAR.

LET US SAY AMEN. >> THTHANK YOU, SIR.

SUE WILL LEAD US IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

YOU ARE ME RIGHT? >> I AM SERGEANT FIRST CLASS RETIRED FLORIDA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD.

AS WE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TRIED AMERICAN FLAG THIS MORNING, BE REMINDED IT AS STOOD AS A SYMBOL OF FREEDOM SENSE 1777.

THE 50 STARS REPRESENT 50 STATES THE 13 ALTERNATING RED AND WHITE STRIPES REPRESENT THE 13 ORIGINAL COLONIES.

THE COLOR RED REPRESENTS HEARTINESS AND VALOR AS WELL AS COURAGE AND READINESS TO SACRIFICE AND ALSO THE BLOOD SHED BY THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT TO PROTECT HER FREEDOM AND OUR COUNTRY. IN THE COLOR BLUE SIGNIFIES JUSTICE FOR ALL AS WELL AS VIGILANCE AND PERSEVERANCE,

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THE COLOR WHITE STANDS FOR. HE IN INNOCENCE.

BECAUSE WE ARE INDEPENDENT FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AND HOLD TRUE TO OUR IDEALS, THESE COLORS WERE DELIBERATELY CHOSEN TO REFLECT THE BELIEFS AND VALUES THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS DEEMED ESSENTIAL TO BUILDING OUR NATION.

LET'S PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO OUR FLAG.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU SUE. YOU ALL MAY BE SEATED.

WE HAVE ABOUT 23000 VETERANS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE A VETERAN LEAD US IN A PLEDGE.

IT MEANS A LOT TO ALL OF US AND ALL OF US WHO SERVED OR HAD FAMILY SERVING ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNTRY.

[Public Safety Update]

WE HAVE A 27 YEAR VETERAN I BELIEVE HEAR FROM THE FIRE AND

RESCUE, STEPHANIE? >> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS STEPHANIE FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE. LAST WEEK I HAD THE HONOR OF ACCOMPANYING ENGINEER MATT SCHAEFER TO THE 2022 EXCELLENCE IN THE STATE AWARDS ROBIN OWENS TO MAX, HE WAS NOMINATED AND SELECTED FOR AN AWARD, THE AWARD QUALIFICATION INCLUDED SOMEONE WHO DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL QUALITIES IN ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AREAS. QUALITY ASSURANCE AND IMPROVEMENT, PATIENT CARE, MEDICAL CONTROL, DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, PUBLIC EDUCATION AND/OR TRAINING AND HAS ACTED ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY IN RESPONSE TO THE EMS COMMUNITY AND OUR PROFESSION. I WILL READ AN EXCERPT FROM THE NOMINATION SUMMARY. MAX'S ENERGETIC ENTHUSIASTIC MENTOR, LEADER, TEACHER, COUNSELOR AND SECOND FATHER TO MANY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS. MOST NOTABLE, MAX'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE POST INCIDENT CARE OF HIS CREW MEMBERS, MAX IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE. TEAM AND DUE TO HIS EXPERIENCE RUNNING PREHOSPITAL CALLS, HE UNDERSTANDS THE MENTAL TOLL IT BRINGS TO SOME OF THE NEWER FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE SCARED TO ASK FOR HELP AND RESOURCES. MAX IS GREAT ABOUT CALLING STATIONS AFTER HE HEARS A BAD CALL, GO OUT AND TO MAKE SURE THE CREWS ARE OKAY. HE HELPS BRING CLOSURE AND LET THE FIREFIGHTERS KNOW THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS FOR WHICH TO LOOK FOR THAT COULD BE DUE TO THE EFFECTS OF THE JOB.

MAX IS CONSTANTLY DOING WHAT HE CAN TO IMPROVE THE.

TO. OUTREACH.

HE LOVES TO TEACH AND SHARE HIS PASSION FOR WHAT WE DO.

HE IS A TRUE ASSET TO OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR PROFESSION.

AS THE CHIEF MAX HAS TAUGHT ME SO MUCH ABOUT BEING A LEADER IN TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING THE 2022 EMT OF THE YEAR FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA ENGINEER MAX SCHAEFER. THANK YOU.

ATHANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR 27 YEARS SO FAR.

YES, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING SKIP CALLED DIRECTOR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION TO THE ST. JOHN'S SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I HATE TO SOMBER THE MOOD BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT A SUBJECT THAT IS QUITE SERIOUS AND HAS TO DO WITH FENTANYL AND OVERDOSE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

WE OFTEN SEE ON THE NEWS WITH THE BORDER CRISIS, I WON'T GET INTO THE POLITICS OF ALL OF THAT BUT THEY'RE HAVING RECORD SEIZURES OF FENTANYL AT THE BORDER BUT FOR EVERYONE'S ACS THERE IS PROBABLY ANOTHER HUNDRED LOADS THAT ARE GETTING THROUGH. IT IS NOT A BORDER ISSUE IT IS NOW A ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ISSUE. JUST IN THE PAST FEW DAYS IN THE NORTH FLORIDA REGION, JS O HAS SEIZED 3 KILOS OF FENTANYL.

FLAGLER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE YESTERDAY SEES 300 GRAMS OF FENTANYL. R&R NARCOTICS IN THE PAST 10 DAYS HAVE SEIZED 100 GRAMS OF FENTANYL, THE DEA SAYS 2 MILLIGRAMS IS ENOUGH FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO OVERDOSE WHICH KINDA BRINGS ME TO SOBERING FACTS.

THIS IS KIND OF JUST A 10000-FOOT VIEW OF HER OVER THE SITUATION IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IT'S JUST FOR REALLY SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S RUN BY

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IT COLLECTS DATA FROM DOH, RMS, FIRE RESCUE RMS AND WE PUT A BUNCH OF DATA TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UNDER REPRESENTING THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

I TOOK ABOUT A THREE YEAR SNAPSHOT AND ON AVERAGE WE IN FIRE RESCUE RESPONDED TO ABOUT 600 OVERDOSES A YEAR, THAT IS 55 PER MONTH. OF THAT WE ARE DEPLOYING NARCAN OVER 400 TIMES A YEAR. 400 TIMES, THAT'S 30 TIMES A MONTH WHERE WE HAVE TO INTERCEDE TO SAVE SOMEBODY LIFE.

AND OF THAT, THIS IS KIND OF ALARMING BECAUSE ONE OF THE GREATEST COUNTIES IN THE GREATEST DATE, WE HAVE 40 PEOPLE A YEAR THAT DIED FROM OVERDOSE, 40 PEOPLE, THAT IS 40 FAMILIES THAT GRIEVE A LOT OF LOVE ONE. JUST IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS I'VE GOTTEN WHAT THEY CALL A SPIKE ALERT FROM THE OD MAPPING THAT ALERTS US ANYTIME WE HAVE FOUR OR MORE OVERDOSES IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD. IN THOSE 24 HOUR PERIODS WE'VE HAD AS MANY AS NINE, THAT IS SEVEN ALERTS IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS. ON AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE AGE IS 51 YEARS OLD AS SOMEBODY DIES OF OVERDOSE.

IN 2021 OF THE 500 PLUS TIMES THAT WE ADMINISTERED NARCAN, 203 OF THOSE WERE ON FEMALES, 286 WERE MALES, THE MOST BUSY DAY FOR OUR OVERDOSE IS SATURDAY. SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY A COMPLEX ISSUE, BY THE TIME RESCUE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE GET INVOLVED, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S TOO LATE BUT IT'S VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS. WE HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, WITH TO CONCENTRATE ON PREVENTION, WE HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON EDUCATION AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO AS A COMMUNITY TO BETTER THESE RESULTS.

WE WILL CONTINUE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, EVERY TIME WE HAVE AN OD DEATH WE CENTER MAJOR CRIMES UNIT AND QUICKLY TRY TO IDENTIFY THE DEALERS. WE PURSUE THEM TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE IF WE CAN CHARGE THEM WITH MURDER WE DO.

BUT THAT'S A HEAVY LIFT AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

SO I DON'T SAY THIS TO SET ALARM BELLS OR BE MELODRAMATIC, I'M JUST MAKING YOU ALL AWARE OF THE SITUATION IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY,

ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, SIR.

>> MISPRINT IN PATTY'S MAKING HIS WAY UP I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER WALDRON HAS NOW BEEN ABLE TO JOIN US.

PAUL, ARE YOU ON THE PHONE? >> ESTHER MR. CHAIR.

>> EXCELLENT, GOOD TO HEAR YOUR VOICE.

>> DOES HE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIS PRESENCE NOW?

>> NO IT'S BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE FACT THAT WE HEARD HIM.

[Clerk of Court's Report]

>> OKAY ALL RIGHT. MR. PATTY GOOD MORNING.

>> CHAIRMAN GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER GOOD MORNING.

JOINED WITH OUR TAX COLLECTOR MS. HOLLINGSWORTH.

AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW AND MANY OF YOU DO NOT KNOW, ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WAS ONE OF THE LEADING COUNTIES TO START LOCAL COLLECTION TAXES, THE YEAR WAS 1988 WHEN THE STATE STARTED INTRODUCING AND PASSING LOCAL OPTION TAXES.

ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IN LEE COUNTY SAID WAIT A SECOND WE'RE NOT GOING TO COLLECT LOCAL OPTION TAXES LOCALLY, SEND THEM TO THE STATE AND STAND AROUND WONDERING WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEND THE MONEY BACK. SO THIS TAX COLLECTOR IN LEE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR LOBBY, WROTE THE BILL, WENT TO TALLAHASSEE, THERE WERE ONLY TWO COUNTIES THAT STARTED LOCAL OPTION COLLECTION AND RETENTION IN OUR COUNTY AND WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF OUR ORDINANCE THAT WERE USING FOR COLLECTION OF TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX, AT THAT TIME BUT MARCO WAS THE CLERK, HE WAS GOING TO ENFORCE AND WE WERE SIMPLY GOING TO COLLECT. THROUGH THE YEARS AND THROUGH THE TRANSFER OF DIFFERENT CLERKS PEOPLE KEPT CALLING THE TAX COLLECTOR AS THEY DO ALL THE TIME, WHY AREN'T YOU COLLECTING, I GOT TIRED OF HEARING THAT AND WE STARTED ENFORCING, I DON'T WANT ANY OF THE AUDITING, OUR CLERK DOES A FABULOUS JOB WITH THAT BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, AS WE STAND THIS MORNING WE ARE $6 MILLION AHEAD WHEN WE HAVE THE REST OF THIS MONTH, $6 MILLION AHEAD OF WHAT WE WERE THE ENTIRETY OF YEAR LAST YEAR, THANK YOU WE LOVE WHAT WE DO, CALL US, WE CAN HELP YOU BUT DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.

>> THANK YOU, DENNIS IF I MAY CHAIR, WE HAVE A BRIEFING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE TDT PROCESS HERE IN ST. JOHN'S FROM OURS IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE OF THE STAFF AS WELL.

IF THEY CAN GO AHEAD. >> LET ME THINK DENNIS FOR HIS PRESENTATION TO. I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOOK THAT.

WE PROBABLY HAVE THE BEST FIVE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS IN THE

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>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND MORNING COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU ON ST. JOHN'S COUNTY TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE TAX COLLECTOR IN THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.

IN PARTNERSHIP OR OFFICES USE TDT INFORMATION AVAILABLE BY THE TAX COLLECTOR TO PERFORM AND OVERSEE AUDIT ENDORSEMENT COLLECTIONS. THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IN CHRISTINA REPRESENTS A TAX COLLECTOR, CHRISTINA WILL SPEAK TO HER RESPONSIBILITY AS THEY RELATE TO TOURIST

DEVELOPMENT TAX. >> THANK YOU I SERVE AS A BUSINESS IN THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX DIRECTOR WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MANAGING THE TOURIST ACCOUNT MASTER FIRE.

WHICH INCLUDES CREATING AND REGISTERING NEW ACCOUNTS, MONMONITORING REGISTER RECEIVABS TAX FILINGS AND COLLECTIONS.

AS OF AUGUST 2022, WE HAD 3875 ACTIVE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT ACCOUNTS AND APPROXIMATELY 164 OF THOSE ARE DELINQUENT.

ALTHOUGH THE SMALL THE DEPARTMENT WORKS WITH HER AND HER TEAM TO ENSURE COUNSEL REVIEWED AND ENFORCED COLLECTION PROCEDURES ARE CONSIDERED. TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT AND GROWTH RELATED TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX TAKING PLACE IN OUR COUNTY WE HAVE EXAMINED TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX DATA FOR 2016 THROUGH 2021. THE FINDINGS SHOW THAT 85% GROWTH IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL BETWEEN 2018 AND 2021.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ONLY 164 ACCOUNTS DELINQUENT CONSIDERING THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY CONFERENCE ACCOUNTS REGISTERED OUR PAIN TIMELY. FOR ALL THE STATISTICS ON THE TAX COLLECTOR HAS IMPLEMENTED A NEW SOFTWARE APPLICATION CALLED PHOENIX. OUR EXPECTATION INCLUDE NEW AND IMPROVED REWARDING IN THE FISCAL 2023 THAT WILL OFFER COMPLIANCE EFFICIENT BASED IN EASIER ACCESSIBILITY DATA.

THROUGH ORDINANCE 88 TASH 27 AND ADOPTED THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL [INAUDIBLE] RESPONSIBILITY TO PLAN FOR AND PROVIDE COMPLIANCE SERVICES TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WE PLAN FIVE TDT ACCOUNT AUDITS WITH THE NEW PROCESS INITIATED TO CONDUCT AUDITS [INAUDIBLE].

ALL OF THOSE ARE BASED ON SITE THEY WILL BE PERFORMED VIRTUALLY TO MAXIMIZE HER RESOURCES, FOUR OF THE FIVE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THE FIFTH ONE IS ON ITS WAY. TO BE EFFECTIVE IN PROVIDING THE SERVICES OUR OFFICE IN CHRISTINA STEAM AT THE TAX COLLECTOR ARE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE FLORIDA TOURIST TAX DEVELOPMENT EACH.

WE RECEIVE ANNUAL TRAINING ON THE TOPICS OF ENFORCEMENT, BEST PRACTICES AND AUDITED LEGISLATIVE UPDATES.

FOR FISCAL 2023 I HAVE BEEN ELECTED DIRECTOR REGION TWO OF THE ASSOCIATION. THIS WILL PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH, INCREASE KNOWLEDGE IN ADDED VALUE TO OUR PRACTICES.

>> IN THE YEAR AHEAD WE CONTINUE THIS OUTSTANDING PARTNERSHIP TO IDENTIFY EFFICIENCIES TO REPORTING AND TRAINING WITH OUR EFFORTS WE WILL FACILITATE THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX REGISTRATION PROCESS, AUDIT AND COMPLIANCE AND AID IN ENFORCING THE COLLECTIONS TWO. TAXPAYERS AND RESIDENTS BENEFIT THROUGH ACCURATE COLLECTION ACTIVITIES AND REPORTING OF THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX REVENUE. WE CAN ENJOY OUR TOURIST AREAS AND ACTIVITIES SUPPORTED BY THE TRUESDELL DEVELOPMENT COLLECTED BY OUR OFFICE KNOWING THEY ARE SAFEGUARDED BY HER MONITORING

AND RECORDING OFFICES. >> AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU AND TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER THEM OR FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO US AT OR OFFICES.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH LADIES. THANKS GUYS.

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

ARNOLD. >> NON- MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> NOT MR. CHAIRMAN. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON ANY

DELETIONS TO THE CONSENT? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, NUMBER EIGHT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AT ROBERTS ROAD, IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT CAME UP TO US AND I WAS WANTING TO SEE IF STAFF HAD ANY OBJECTIONS AT THIS TIME? IF POSSIBLE.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> IF NOT WE CAN JUST MOVE IT

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OCTOBER. >> IF WE CAN CAN I ASK [INAUDIBLE] TO ADDRESS THAT THOUGHT.

>> GUESSER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS THE ROBERT'S ROAD VACATION IS HERE TODAY TO SET THE REGULAR AGENDA TO HEAR THE ITEM BEFORE THE BOARD.

THERE IS AN OPEN STAFF, ON THIS APPLICATION REGARDING A POTENTIAL NEED FOR UPON LOCATION ON ROBERTS ROAD BASED ON THE STUDY FROM COUNTY ENGINEERING. THEY WENT FORWARD WITH IT, STAFF IS TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS A WAY TO WORK THAT THROUGH WITH AN APPLICANT BUT AT THIS TIME THIS IS A NO RESULT, AND THERE IS STILL A CONCERN FOR THE COUNTY FOR UPON LOCATION ON ROBERTS

ROAD [INAUDIBLE] >> TAKE ISN'T THAT THE SAME PROBLEM WE HAD BEFORE, PREDOMINANTLY WHAT WE HAD

BEFORE? >> YES, SIR.

NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH UNTIL WE HAVE THAT WORKED OUT.

>> I CONCUR. WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT DATA? OR JUST HIS REQUEST TO DELETE NUMBER EIGHT.

>> IS A REMOVAL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, ONCE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE COMPLETED THE REVIEW OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, PERHAPS A PROPER MOTION WOULD BE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM EIGHT.

>> OKAY THAT TAKES CARE OF ITEM EIGHT.

COMMISSIONER WALKER? >> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

>> THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE COME FORWARD, SEEING NONWORKING ENCLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED REMOVING ITEM EIGHT, IS THERE A

MOTION? >> I MOVE.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION, IS HER SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> WAVE MOTION IN THE SECOND TO APPROVE CONSENT AS AMENDED WITH THE REMOVAL OF ITEM EIGHT.

I GUESS WE DO A VOICE VOTE NOW. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> YES. > COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> YES. >> VISTA BLOCKER.

>> YES. >> AND I VOTE YES, THE BOW IS

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

AGENDA? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING, LET ME GO BACK TO VOICE VOTE, WE ARE PROVING THE REGULAR AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION AS IA AS I JUST DISCUSSED, WE WILL NOW VOTE ON THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER WALKER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> COMMISSIONER WALKER.

[Additional Item]

>> YES. >> I VOTE YES, WE DO HAVE A REGULAR AGENDA SET WITH IA AND I WILL NOW INTRODUCE SHAWNA.

>> AND WENDY MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS, SHAWNA DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. TODAY WE ARE HERE ON AGENDA ITEM RELATED TO THE LOW-INCOME POOL HISTORICALLY THIS IS AN ITEM THAT GOES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA EACH YEAR, HOWEVER, WE DID JUST RECEIVE THE AGREEMENT FROM THE AGENCY FOR HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION OVER THE WEEKEND, STATUTE REQUIRES THAT THIS DOCUMENT BE EXECUTED BY OCT OCTOBER 1 SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE LATE ADDITION TO THE AGENDA.

THIS AGREEMENT IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY, FIVE OUR HOSPITAL AND THE HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION AND IT RELATES TO CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR LOW-INCOME PATIENTS AT FLAGLER, THIS AGREEMENT ALLOWS THE STATE TO DRAW DOWN FEDERAL DOLLARS WITH A NOMINAL CONTRIBUTION FROM THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF

$32140. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ONE EGG?

>> ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME

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CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MR. GERARD MOVED TO ADOPT ST2 DASH

>> 356. >> AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THE LETTER OF AGREEMET BETWEEN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA AGENCY FOR HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION AND THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND FLAGLE HOSPITAL IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM OF THE ATTACHED ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE FOR THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFER OF AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED

$32,032,124. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION IN THE

SECOND, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> YES.

>> WHITEHURST. >> YES.

[1. Public Hearing Announcement by the Florida Forest Service and the Management Plan Advisory Group for the Watson Island State Forest.]

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> YES AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES. >> AND I VOTE YES, THAT IS APPROVED 5. IA, IS JEFF WITH US? JEFF IS WITH THE DIVISION OF FORCE TREE.

>> WE CHANGE IT TO FLORIDA FOREST SERVICE.

>> I GO BACK 30 YEARS AGO, HE WAS A DIVISION DIRECTOR.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS JEFF DARR I AM THE FORSTER PRIMARILY WITH THE FLORIDA SERVICE PRIMARILY YOU WILL FIND ME AT THE KANSAS STATE ON THE SOUTHEAST PART OF THE COUNTY BUT I DO HAVE A SMALLER STATE FOREST IN THE WESTERN CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTY NAMED ISLAND FOREST IS ONLY ABOUT 600 ACRES, YOU WILL FIND AS YOU SEE THE MAP HERE IT'S A TOUGH MAP, TRACKED ALONG THE ST. JOHNS RIVER THAT IS COUNTY ROAD 15.

SOUTH OF TWO 08 THAT'S WATSON ISLAND, THAT'S 300 ACRES ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY VOTE AND THE OTHER TRACK ANOTHER 300 ACRES IS NEAR BAKERSFIELD SOUTH OF TWO 08 ON 13 A.

WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT% EVERY 10 YEARS WE REDO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE FOREST SO WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A DRAFT FOR MANAGEMENT PRESENTATION I'M GOING TO DO THAT NEXT THURSDAY AT 1030 AND IS GOING TO BE VIRTUAL SO WE'RE STILL DOING THAT AND THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU, ALSO MEMBERS AFTERWARDS IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART, IF NOT NO HARD FEELINGS THESE ARE PROCESS.

RELATIVELY SMALL FOREST WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON BUT THE TENURE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS TO PLAN THE NEXT DECADE AND WE WANT TO DO MORE AS FAR AS RECREATION WE RECOGNIZE ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS EXPANDING WITH POPULATION WE WOULD LIKE MORE TRAILS, HIKING TRAILS, HORSEBACK RIDING TRAILS, THERE'S CURRENTLY NO HUNTING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO MOVE ON AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THAT FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

ANYBODY INTERESTED PLEASE CLICK THE LINK AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE HAVING

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>> WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING. >> THAT THE PRESENTATION SO WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM TWO WHICH IS THE QUADRANT, GOOD MORNING.

>> IN MORNING I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THIS REMOTE FAST ENOUGH, LET ME GET THE POINTER TO WORK.

GOGOOD MORNING MY NAME IS CHRIS, THIS MORNING I'M GOING TO PRESENT THE PROJECT OF THE QUADRANT.

>> MR. I'M SORRY WITH YOU EXPERTS A DISCLOSURES, WERE

HEARING THESE ITEMS TOGETHER. >> WORKING HAVE TO DO X PARTAKE DISCLOSURE AS ITEM NUMBER THREE WERE HEARING THESE AS QUASI-

JUDICIAL. >> PARTNERS FOR ONE SECOND.

THIS IS AN EX PARTE FOR THREE BUT IS A PART OF THE ELECTION START COMMISSIONER ARNOLD ANY X PARTAKE ON TWO OR THREE.

>> NO MR. CHAIR. >> I HAVE KNOWN MR. CHAIR.

>> FOLLOWING THE X PARTAKE ON TWO OR THREE.

>> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE MR. CHAIR.

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>> MR. BLOCKER. >> I HAVE KNOWN MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> OKAY WE GOT THAT DONE, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

>> SO THE APPLICANT OF THIS PROJECT IS HDT 20795, EXTENSOR HERITAGE DEVELOPMENT GROUP WHICH IS A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY THAT I OWN HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. A VERY PROUD TO OWN A COUPLE OTHER BUSINESSES HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ALL OF WHICH ARE KNOWN NOT ONLY FOR DOING GREAT WORK BY GIVING BACK TO LOCAL NEEDS AND THAT'S A VERY CRITICAL PART OF WHAT WE DO, NOT ONLY ON THE HOMEBUILDING AND POOL BUILDING SIDE BUT ALSO THE DEVELOPING. MY TEAM CONSISTED OF CATHERINE WHITTINGTON OF WHITTINGTON LAW, MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE, CASTLE BAY DESIGN IN STUDIO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND LAND PLANNERS, KINLEY HORN ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE INTERIOR WORKS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE.

A SUMMARY OF APPLICATION, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO WRAP ITEMS TWO AND THREE INTO THE SAME PRESENTATION SO THEY THE SAME PROJECT, WERE SEEKING A LAND-USE CHANGE FROM CULTURE TO MIXED USED ON 8.8 ACRES YOU CAN SEE THE BOUNDARY OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT IN RED WITH A LITTLE SLIVER OF TRIANGULAR PORTION LAND-USE. WERE TRYING TO SQUARE OFF THE ENTIRE PARCEL SO ALL FALLS UNDER THE SAME LAND-USE IN 2007 THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY APPROVE THIS AND IS DETERMINED TO BE CONSISTENT AND COMPLIANCE IN THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T BECOME EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THE COUNTY'S EVALUATION HAVE NOT BEEN TIMELY ADOPTED AND THERE WERE SOME KIND OF MIXUP SO I'M

BRINGING IT AGAIN TODAY. >> THE MAP ON THE LEFT ILLUSTRATES ALL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TRIANGLE EXISTED TO REAL CIVIL CULTURE, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT THIS IS APPROVED. ON THE REZONING SIDE WE ARE SEEKING TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY TOURISM AS WELL AS OPEN RURAL OVER TO PUD FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT AT PUD.

ON THE LEFT SIDE, THIS IS THE ZONING MAP, YOU CAN SEE IN VERSES IT BE IMPUTED WHICH IS CONSISTED OF MOST OF THE AREA SURROUNDING WE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH ALONG THE INTERSTATE WITH THE NEW HOSPITAL INVESTMENT AND CAR DEALERSHIPS AS WELL AS ALL THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT'S A LARGER AND PEACE OF ALL OF IT.

TO SUMMARIZE APPLICATION WE ARE LOOKING AF 1.35 MILLION SQUARE T OF NONRESIDENTIAL USED APPROVED, THE TOTAL USE BREAKS DOWN INTO 750,000 SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL, GEORGIA 50000 A MEDICAL HOSPITAL, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO COUPLE HOSPITALS ABOUT DOING A FACILITY HERE, 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF MEDICAL OFFICE, 200 OF GENERAL OFFICE EDUCATIONAL AND INSTITUTIONAL, 50000 OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL SHOPPING AND 300 HOTEL ROOMS. WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSED LAND USE EQUIVALENTS TABLE WHICH ALLOWS US TO CONVERT ANY OF THESE USES TO ANOTHER USE THAT IS SHOWN THERE NONE OF WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL AND IT DOES NOT LET US CONVERT ANY OF THOSE TO RESIDENTIAL.

>> THE SETBACKS ARE 15 IN THE FRONT, FIVE ON THE SIDES AND 10 FOR THE REAR AND THAT THE ENTIRE PARENT PARCEL.

THE STRUCTURES WILL HAVE A MINIMUM SEPARATION OF 10 FEET PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT AS SHOWN HERE.

10-FOOT BUFFER PROVIDED ALONG PUD BOUNDARY WITH THE EXCEPTION THE FRONTAGE ALONG 95 AND THAT WILL BE 50 FEET.

AND PORTIONS OF THE PUD MAY BE DEVELOPED OR SOLD AS INDIVIDUAL PARCELS AND THEY CAN HAVE SHARED PARKING WITH OTHER CONTINUOUS PARCELS. SO THE SITE IS A TOTAL OF 134 ACRES, 41.7 ACRES OF WETLAND, ALTHOUGH WETLANDS HAVE BEEN DEEMED ISOLATED AND WERE PRESERVING 23 AND A HALF ACRES IMPACTING 18.2. THE NET DEVELOPER ACREAGE IS 110.6 ACRES IN. OPEN SPACE 25%, MINIMUM BE PRESERVED AS OPEN SPACE. THE NATURAL VEGETATION IS BEING CONSERVED, THAT PROPORTION IS 5.5 ACRES OR 5%.

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IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AUTOMOTIVE GROUP THAT BOUGHT THE BUSY BEE SITE ACROSS THE STREET WITH US, WERE WORKING WITH FDO T TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE INTERSECTION IS GOING TO LOOK AND HOW WE CAN MOVE THE MEDIAN, CLOSE EXISTING MEDIAN AND MOVE IT FURTHER SOUTH, THAT WILL ALLOW MORE SPACE WHICH IS ALSO

WHAT THEY WANT. >> THE PROJECT WILL BE ACCESS FROM STATE ROAD 207 INTO LOCATIONS WITH PLANNED INTERCONNECTIVITY TO CYPRESS LAKES BOULEVARD AS WELL AS WHAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING PROBABLY NEXT YEAR OF HER PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS PARISH FARMS. IT IS SLATED TO BE ONE SINGLE TENURE PHASE WITH A MULTIMODAL PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION SYSTEM WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU DETAILS OF THAT HERE IN A SECOND.

WERE ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW, THIS MAP HERE SHOWS THE MULTIMODAL SYSTEM THAT WE ARE PLANNING, I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, I THINK IT'S VERY CREATIVE, I CAN'T TAKE THE PRIVILEGE OF SAYING I CAME UP WITH THIS, IT'S OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

ESSENTIALLY THERE ARE TWO PATHS THAT WILL RUN TO THE DEVELOPMENT. THE ONE IN RED IS A MULTIUSE PATH AND THE ONE IN BLUE IS MORE NORMAL SIDEWALK AND ROAD, AGAIN I'LL SHOW YOU SOME DETAILS HERE IN THE SECOND.

THE MULTIMODAL PATH IS 120 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY'S SO IT'S MUCH LARGER THAN WE TYPICALLY SEE. IT HAS A DEDICATED 10-FOOT WIDE PAVED AREA FOR BICYCLES TO BE ABLE TO CROSS EACH OTHER WITHOUT ANY SORT OF OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING TO GET OFF THE PATH TO LET SOMEONE ELSE COME THROUGH. THERE IS A 5-FOOT SEPARATE PEDESTRIAN PATH WITH THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND IN BETWEEN THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PATH, IT'S MUCH MORE SAFE AND FUNCTIONAL AS OPPOSED TO A BIKE PATH BEING ON THE SHOULDER OF A ROAD LIKE WE SEE A LOT NEVER AREAS.

WE DO PLAN ON EXTENDING THE SOUTH THROUGH THE PARISH PROJECT, THIS IS THE INITIAL STEP TOWARD THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A LARGER MULTIMODAL SYSTEM. THIS HERE ARE DETAILS OF WHAT I JUST WENT THROUGH, IF I START FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, YOU SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF 5-FOOT SIDEWALK, THEN THERE IS A 5-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER WHICH SEPARATES IT FROM THE 10-FOOT MULTIUSE PATH, YOU CAN SEE THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS MEANT FOR PEDESTRIANS AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS GOING TO BE FOR BICYCLE TRAFFIC.

THEN WE HAVE A 15-FOOT LANDSCAPE BERM WHICH HAS ADDITIONAL SAFETY TO THE PEDESTRIANS IN THE CYCLIST AND WE HAVE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY WHICH WILL THEN CROSSOVER TO ANOTHER 5-FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DON'T SEE THAT OFTEN IN THE COUNTY AND WERE EXCITED BECAUSE WERE GOING TO TIE IT IN TO OUR SYSTEM.

THE OTHER DOCS THAT WERE SHOWN ON THAT MAP ARE MORE TYPICAL AND WE CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TWO LANE ROAD.

ON THE LEFT IS THE MVP THAT WE SUBMITTED WITH OUR REZONING AND I INCLUDED THAT IN THE AREA ALSO YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES YOU WILL NOTICE IS THE EXISTING POND THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY WAS AND ALSO AN OLD BORROW PIT WE DO PLAN ON FILLING THAT IN RELOCATING IT TO THE SOUTH AND ALLOW THAT TO BE THE DRAINAGE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. TO THE SOUTH ON THE MVP, YOU SEE A COUPLE OF ARROWS, THE ONE ON THE LEFT WILL ALLOW US ONCE PARISH IS APPROVED OR HOPEFULLY PARISH GETS APPROVED, WILL ALLOW US TO INTERCONNECT CYPRESS WAYS. THAT'S A HUGE BENEFIT AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, CYPRESS LIENS HAS ONE ENTRANCE AND ONE EXIT WITH I THINK 600 POUNDS OR SO. IN THE POSSIBILITY OF BRINGING ALTERNATE ACCESS POINTS TO CYPRESS LAKES ARE MINIMAL IN FACT ASIDE FROM COMING TO THE QUADRANT PARISH THEY WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THROUGH WETLAND WITH A NEW FIRE STATION IS GOING.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE NEW FIRE STATION IS GOING ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE WITH THE FIRE HYDRANT ICON.

TRANSPORTATION, ALL FOCUS ON THE SCOND POINT, CYPRESS LIENS BOULEVARD TO I-95, YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT CAPACITY WHICH IS AT

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A PORTABLE WATER AND SEWER THE COUNTY HAS TOLD US THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY IN THE LINES ARE IN PLACE TO SERVE THE PROJECT. SOLID WASTE ALSO IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY, SCHOOLS, PARKS, RECREATION AND MASS TRANSIT THERE IS NO IMPACT BECAUSE THIS IS NONRESIDENTIAL.

FIRE SERVICES AT PLAN TO BE SERVED WITH A NEW STATION IN CYPRESS LAKES. THERE ARE TWO WAIVERS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR ONE IS A WAIVER TO THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND, WERE ASKING FOR THE INTERIOR ISLANDS TO BE A MINIMUM OF 8 FEET VERSUS 15 FEET THIS IS WITHIN LARGER PARKING AREAS, TERMINAL ISLANDS WILL BE 12 FEET WIDE VERSUS 15 FEET WIDE, THE ISLANDS CAN CONTAIN CANOPY TREES, PALMS AND OTHER NON- CANOPY TREES.

THE ISLANDS WILL BE SPACE AT 13G SPACES VERSUS 100 FEET.

ALSO ELIMINATES TREE ISLANDS ALONG PERIMETER PARKING AREAS WHERE WE ARE READY ABOUT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AREAS.

THE WAIVERS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE IT INCREASES THE GREEN SPACE IN OTHER AREAS OF THE PROJECT, LARGER CONTINUOUS AREAS, THE GREEN SPACE AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR GREATER VISIBILITY WITHIN POD.

THE LAND DEVELOPING CODE DOES ALLOW THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO LAX STANDARDS IF ALTERNATIVES STILL CONFORM TO THE GENERAL INTENT AND OBJECTIVE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THAT IS WAIVER ONE. THE SECOND WAIVER IS A SIGNAGE WAIVER, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REALLY IS NOT ADEQUATE FOR THE SIZE OF PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS ONE PROJECT WITH I ASSUME TO BE MULTIPLE USES WITHIN IT. CURRENTLY YOU ARE ALLOWED FOREGROUND SIGNS WITHIN THE POD WITH A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT.

IN LAND DEVELOPING CODE ALLOWS FOR SIGNS WITH 500 FEET OF FRONTAGE, ONE SIGN PER 520 FEET. OUR SIGN HAS 1377 FEET ON 207 ALMOST 4000 FEET ON I-95 AND WITHIN THE INTERNAL ROADS ALMOST 4000 FEET OF ROAD FRONTAGE. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR LARGER ANCHORS AND LARGER SCALE RETAILERS TO HAVE WALL SIGNS OF UP TO 300 SQUARE FEET VERSUS 200 SQUARE FEET.

DIRECTORY SIGNS THROUGH THE MAXIMUM OF 10 FEET TALL OR 48 SQUARE FEET VERSUS 3 FEET TALL AND THREE SQUARE FEET.

AND WE WILL HAVE NO MORE THAN 10 TOTAL.

THE PRIMARY ENTRY SIGNAGE ON 207 IS LIMITED TO TWO SIGNS NO TALLER THAN 30 FEET IN HEIGHT, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO CREATE AN ATTRACTIVE STATEMENT AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE PROJECT.

WITH 200 FEET OF FRONTAGE VERSUS 15 FEET WHICH IS ALLOWED 100 SQUARE FEET. I'M SORRY I SAID FRONTAGE I MEANT TO SAY SIGNAGE. THE SECONDARY ENTRY SIGNS ARE LIMITED TO TWO SIGNS NO TALLER THAN 20 FEET IN HEIGHT AND 200 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE. LASTLY THE PROJECT ENTRY FEATURE UP TO 35 FEET IN HEIGHT AND 200 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE WILL BE IN THE ROUNDABOUT WHICH WE ARE PLANNING ON THE SOUTH END OF THE PROJECT. SO THIS ILLUSTRATES ALL THE WORDS THAT I JUST SAID IN YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SIGNS ARE LOCATED, MOSTLY INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT, YOU CAN SEE THE ROUNDABOUT DOWN THERE WHERE WE PLAN TO HAVE THE BIG PROJECT.

SO THE PROJECT BENEFITS, PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY TO CYPRESS LIENS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. MULTIMODAL PEDESTRIAN NETWORK AS ILLUSTRATED PROVIDES A SAFE AND EFFICIENT ALTERNATIVE TO DRIVING AND ALSO PROVIDES AN ABILITY TO CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ON 210, 207 IF YOU HEAD WEST WILL CONNECT.

WITHIN THE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS THE COUNTY SHALL PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF LAND USES WHEN DESIGNATED MIXED USE DISTRICTS TO HAVE LARGE CONCENTRATED AREAS OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE, INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL, RECREATIONAL AND CULTURAL FACILITIES.

WE ARE DOING ALL OF THIS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RESIDENTIAL.

PROJECT LOCATION PEANUT 95 IN 207 IS IDEALLY SITUATED, NOT ONLY SAY AUGUSTINE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BUT FROM OTHER COUNTIES AND AREAS. FREEING A VARIETY OF PRODUCTS, SERVICES, JOB OPPORTUNITIES, CLOSER TO RESIDENTS IN THE SOUTH AND CENTRAL AREAS WHERE WE ALLOW A LOT OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND FILL THE EXISTING NEED FOR MORE RETAIL SERVICES ALREADY ALONG THE MAJOR CORRIDOR INTERCOUNTY, THE APPROVAL AT THE END OF CHANGE PROMOTES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THE COUNTY BY THE CREATION OF ADDITIONAL JOBS, INCREASE SALES TAXES AND AD VALOREM VALUE OF LAND.

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IT IS INFILL DEVELOPMENT EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LARGER PIECE, TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE LACK SO MUCH OF IN THIS COUNTY.

IS IDEALLY LOCATED AT THE INTERCHANGE, CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE AS EXISTING CAPACITY ALLOWING FOR THE SECOND ENTRANCE TO CYPRESS LAKES FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE STATION AND POLICY 8.1.2.7 STATES THAT THIS COUNTY SHALL ENCOURAGE URBAN AND SUBURBAN GROWTH WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS WITH PUBLIC FACILITIES EXIST. AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AREA SHALL BE DISCOURAGED UNLESS THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATES THE AMENDMENT PROVIDES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JOB CREATION, PRESERVATION OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OR OTHER PUBLIC BENEFIT WHICH THIS DOES. IN THE STAFF REPORT IT IS NOTED OVERALL USE PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS REQUEST IF YOU CONSISTENT WITH THOSE PERMITTED WITHIN MIXED USE.

PLANNING AND ZONING GAVE US A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I

AM DONE. >> PAUL ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU,

PAUL? >> NO, SIR NOT AT THIS TIME.

>> QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE, GOING BACK TO THE WETLAND IMPACTS. I THANK YOU WERE PRESERVING 23 ACRES AND IMPACTING ABOUT 18 MORE OR LESS.

HAVE YOU APPLIED FOR OR RECEIVED A WATER MANAGEMENT DRP PERMIT

YET? >> NO, SIR, WE HAVE NOT.

>> I USUALY IN MY CASE WOULD DIFFER TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO THE RESPECT OF THE WETLAND IMPACTS.

AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW IN ANY OF US KNOW THEY REQUIRE US TO GO THROUGH AVOIDANCE OF MINIMUM STATION PROCESS.

THEY WILL BE ADJUSTING TO THE EXTENT MINIMIZED OR AVOIDED AND UNDER YOUR PLAN OR IMPACT 18 AND OF COURSE YOU WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE LITIGATION FOR THE IN SOME FASHION.

>> YES OR. >> IF THIS IS APPROVED I ASSUME YOUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT.

>> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVEAL ANY ENDING.

THE MAJORITY OF THE WETLANDS OVERLAY THE O AREAS ENTERED INTO WETLANDS. THEY REALLY HAVE LITTLE SIGNIFICANCE. THE BIG SIGNIFICANT WETLAND IS ON THE WEBSITE OF OUR PROJECT EVEN THOSE ISOLATED.

>> ALL DEFERRED TO [INAUDIBLE] ON THE.

IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS THE PUBLIC,.

>> THIS TIME BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC, ON AGENDA ITEMS TWO AND THREE, ANYBODY WISHING PUBLIC, ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE

COME FORWARD. >> GOOD MORNING MR., HOW ARE

YOU? >> MR. CHAIRMAN I AGREE WITH YOU THERE IS NO WETLAND PERMIT, CAN WE PLEASE MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM. I THINK IT'S PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE FOR THEM TO COME IN HERE WITHOUT ANY APPLICATION TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND ASK US TO TAKE ACTION ON IT. IT'S A HUGE PROJECT.

ALSO I'M INSPIRED BY THE LATE KATHY BROWN.

IN SHE EXPLAINED WHEN SHE WAS A MEMBER OF HARD PUD IS A SNEAKY WAY OF GETTING AROUND ZONING. WE DO TOO MANY PUD SURROUND THIS COUNTY AND WE NEED TO STOP AND WE NEED TO LOOK AND LISTEN, WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT'S HOLY ARE WE STILL ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO DESTROY ROYAL CIVIL CULTURE, TREES.

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I FOUND IT INTRIGUING THAT HE REFERRED TO THE CAFÉ EROTICA CASE. IN THE 11TH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS SAID THAT THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT THAT TIME WAS GIVEN UNBRIDLED DISCRETION ON SIGNAGE, IN THIS CASE HE JUST SAID THAT THE COUNTY LDC ALLOWS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO HAVE UNBRIDLED DISCRETION ON WAIVERS IN RELAXING STANDARDS? I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

THAT IS WRONG. WHY WOULD YOU GIVE AN UNELECTED OFFICIAL UNBRIDLED DISCRETION AS THE 11TH CIRCUIT SAID IN THE CAFÉ EROTICA CASE, UNBRIDLED DISCRETION TO RELAX STANDARDS? WE DON'T HAVE LOBBYIST REGISTRATION HERE SO WE HAVE A DISCLOSURE OF EXPERT TO CONTACT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, PERHAPS YOU MAY ASK FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE IF THERE ARE ANY LOBBYIST HERE FOR THIS ITEM, THIS DEVELOPER, COULD THEY PLEASE RAISE THEIR HAND, UNLIKE TALLAHASSEE IN D.C. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A COUNTY ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE LOBBYIST TO DISCLOSE WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT MIGHT BE HERE WE DON'T KNOW.

ALSO 100-FOOT TALL BUILDINGS, PLEASE DON'T ALLOW THAT BUT THERES NO WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT, I DON'T THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO REACH ANY OF THOSE ISSUES, PLEASE MOVE TO TABLE PENDING ACTION BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, THEY ARE THE EXPERTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU ED. >> THANK YOU MR., WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS TWO OR THREE? SEE NONE MR. CHAIRMAN WORKING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, ANY BOARD AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER WALDRON I BELIEVE THIS IS DISTRICT 3, WOULD YOU

CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? >> YES OR I WANT TO COMMENT FOR INDUSTRIAL AND THE HOTEL USES NEAR I 95 AND A QUARTER.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT 2022.

>> -62. >> CPA SS 2020 1-22, THE QUADRANT BASED UPON FINDINGS OF THAT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE

SECOND, COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> AS. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER WALKER.

>> YES. >> I VOTE YES THAT PASSES 5 - .

>> NOW I BELIEVE. >> WE HAVE TO DO NUMBER THREE

MR. CHAIRMAN. >> IS THERE MOTION ON THREE?

>> ONE SECOND. EMOTION 2022-

>> 63. >> PUD 2021, THE QUADRANT BASED UPON THE FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION

[4. Public Hearing * PUD 2021-21 Adler Creek PUD.]

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WALKER.

>> YES. >> I VOTE YES.

THAT IS FIVE -0. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THAT ONE. I DO BELIEVE THAT TAKES US TO ITEM FOUR, WHAT TIME IS IT? WE HAVE 35 MINUTES.

WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN AT 530 9:30 A.M.

I DON'T WANT TO START WITH THE TIME CERTAIN ITEM EARLY BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY NOT BE HERE YET THAT WANT TO SPEAK BUT WE MAY BE TICKETED UP A LITTLE LATER, THIS ITEM GOES BEYOND 10:30 A.M.

I'M NOT GOING TO INTERRUPT THIS ITEM TO PICK UP THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. LET'S DO YOUR ITEM AND AS SOON AS WERE DONE WITH THIS AT 1030 OR LATER WE WILL PICK UP THE 1030 ITEM. NOW I THINK WE HAVE X PARTAKE ON THIS ITEM TWO. LET'S START WITH X PARTAKE AND LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> YES, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN ITEM MEETING ON THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 15 AT APPROXIMATELY 10:30 A.M. WITH SMITH AND ART LANCASTER VIA PHONE AND IN PERSON, WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT WE DISCUSSED CONSERVATION EASEMENT, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IN THE TIME SCHEDULE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT AWAITS, GOVERNMENT APPROVALS. THAT'S IT.

>> OKAY QUESTIONS? >> ON THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 15 AT 11:30 A.M. I MET WITH EL AVERY SMITH IN NORTH LANCASTER CONFERENCE CALL STAFF IN THE OFFICE AND WE DISCUSSED ALL THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER ARNOLD TALKED ABOUT ON MONDAY SEPTEMBER

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>> OKAY. I MET ON JUST YESTERDAY I GUESS THE 19TH WITH AL AND AVERY SMITH [INAUDIBLE] AND CALLED IN BY PHONE TO DISCUSS PRIMARILY WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND I WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC SITUATION.

WE ARE ALL AWARE OF IT IN PLANS OR ACTION ITEMS THIS DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO ADDRESS THOSE. I'M SURE WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING BUT THAT WAS THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF OUR DISCUSSION YESTERDAY. COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 15 AT 12:00 P.M. I MET WITH AL AND AVERY SMITH AND HAD A PHONE CONFERENCE WITH THE STAFF. WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT.

MAINLY DISCUSSED TRAFFIC IN THE 2209 CONSTRUCTION AND ADLER CREEK BOULEVARD IN THE DESIRE OF THE COUNTY BOARD OF 2209 ALL THE WAY TO ITP. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH ADAM PACETTI PARTICULAR ABOUT THE PROJECT, JUST ASKED ME WHAT TIME HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. THAT'S ABOUT IT MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. WALKER.

>> I HAVE NOT HAD ANY MEETINGS ON THIS.

>> THAT COMPLETES EX PARTE. MS. SMITH, GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING MS. CHAIRMAN ALAN AVERY SMITH ROGERS TOWER 100 WHETSTONE PLAINS AND SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME PROCEEDINGS, THIS IS A JUDICIAL HEARING BECAUSE THIS IS A REZONING.

WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT THIS HEARING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN WE WOULD FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION OR OTHERS BECAUSE WHAT WERE DEALING WITH TODAY IS WHAT WE CALL COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BASED ON THE FACT AND NOT ON GENERAL COMMENT OR WHY THE CASE LAW CALLS THE GLAMOUR OF THE CRAFT. WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR OF FORMALISTIC PROCESS THEN I PROBABLY TYPICALLY PRESENT.

I'M DOING THAT FOR YOUR BOARD AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE INTERESTED IN JUST GENERAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A QUASI- JUDICIAL HEARING PURSUANT TO THE LAW. THIS IS A PUD REZONING APPLICATION. I'M GOING TO START UP BY INCORPORATING THE APPLICATION DOCUMENT NOT ONLY PUD REZONING APPLICATION WHICH IS 2020 1-21 WHICH INCLUDES TRAFFIC STUDIES, ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS AND OTHER DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC PUD BUT ALSO THERE IS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY WHICH THE BOARD APPROVED AS ORDINANCE 202187.

I WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PACKAGE WHICH AGAIN INCLUDES ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS, TRAFFIC STUDIES, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TIME AND LAST YEAR INTO THE RECORD FOR THIS HEARING.

I ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR EXPERT WITNESSES SO I'M GOING TO CALL THEM UP ONE BY ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE FROM EASEMENT PARTNERS ART LANCASTER WHO IS AVAILABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY AND IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO TESTIFY.

FROM PROSSER, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND PLANNING, BRAD DAVIS FROM ALLIANCE, PLEASE COME UP TO BE SWORN IN FROM BIOTECH CONSULTING WHICH IS A PROJECT ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT.

WE HAVE JASON MILTON. JASON PLEASE COMMIT TO BE SWORN IN FOR TRAFFIC WE HAVE RAJA FROM SINGULAR TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS WHO AGAIN IS OUR PROJECT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER.

I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO COME UP AND BE SWORN IN.

AND ERIC OLSON WHO IS A WETLAND SPECIALIST FROM THE LAW FIRM IN TALLAHASSEE IS ALSO HERE WITH US IN CASE WE NEED HIM, HE IS A LAWYER SO BY LAW HE IS ETHICALLY WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH JUST AS I AM BUT IF HE WANTS TO BE SWORN IN, PLEASE .

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>> OLIVET TO A COUNTY ATTORNEY TO DO THE PROCESS ON THE ISSUE.

>> YES YOU FIRST WANT THEM ALL TO BE SWORN IN NOW?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

>> GENTLEMEN PLEASE RAISE YOUR LEFT HAND -- RIGHT HAND AND

REPEAT AFTER ME. >> I, STATE YOUR NAME DO SWEAR IN A FIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH% TODAY BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT PROCEEDING THROUGH BY WAY OF TESTIMONY SENSE I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS CASE ON THE LAND-USE SIDE I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING LAW IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA UNDER THE BAR LICENSE FOR 25 YEARS AMAZINGLY.

18 OF THOSE YEARS ALMOST HAVE BEEN IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, I KNOW YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WELL AND I'M ALSO VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE STATES GROUP MANAGEMENT LAWS AND CONCURRENCY PROPULSION SHARED LAWS FOR TRANSPORTATION AND SCHOOLS AND I'M SURE WE'LL GET INTO ALL OF THOSE DETAILS ABOUT THE LAW AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY ORIENTATION THIS PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 734 ACRES, IT IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 208 AND SOUTHWEST OF STATE ROAD 16.

THE PROPERTY AGAIN HAS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL SEE IN ITS MAIN BODY AND CONSERVATION WHICH IS DETERMINABLE WETLAND THAT RUNS ON THE EASTERN SIDE THAT WAS PLACED UNDER CONSERVATION AND FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION BY THE SPORT IN DECEMBER. AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL SEE AREA HAS A TAX POLICY THAT LIMITS THE DEVELOPMENT TO 1682 MAXIMUM OF 682 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THE COPPER HAS A PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION WAS APPROVED BY THE SPORT LAST YEAR END SO THIS IS NOT A LEGISLATIVE HEARING THIS IS A QUASI- JUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE PUD.

SO THE APPLICATION BEFORE US IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM OPEN RURAL TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR AN MAXIMUM OF 1682 UNITS WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALREADY APPROVED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION.

ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND BUILDINGS WITHIN THE PROJECT WILL BE IN CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENCES.

THERE IS NO NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF SIMPLY THE WRONG LOCATION IN THE PUD DOCUMENTS WHICH I HAVE INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE INTO THIS HEARING PROVIDES SUCH PARAMETERS FOR DEVELOPMENT AS SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHT, OPEN SPACE, PARKS AND RECREATION AND SIMILAR ATTRIBUTES. ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, THE PROJECT PRESERVES APPROXIMATELY 131 ACRES OF WETLANDS AND UPLAND ASSOCIATED WITH CREEK, AGAIN LEFT UNDER CONSERVATION LAND USE, THAT LAND WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED, IT'LL BE LEFT IN ITS NATURAL STATE AND PRESERVED BASED ON YOUR VOTE LAST YEAR.

THE PROJECT ITSELF INTERNAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL SEE AREA PRESERVES ANOTHER 90 PLUS ACRES OF WETLAND AND ALSO YOU THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

THERE ARE ALSO ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE WILL NOT IDENTIFY IN THE PUBLIC RECORD BUT THEY ARE ALSO BEING PRESERVED, DENSITY IS BEING CLUSTERED WITHIN THE UPLAND'S IN THE NET DENSITY IS ABOUT THREE AND HALF UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY AND THE SURROUNDING GROUND LAKE, I ALWAYS CALL IT 6-MILE TROUT CREEK AND SOME OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS. WITH RESPECT TO OFF-SITE ROADWAY PERMITTING WHICH WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE, THE APPLICANT HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT RELEASE FOR THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION WETLAND MITIGATION RELATED TO THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT AND ALSO ENHANCEMENT OF THE COUNTIES ROMA WHICH IS REGIONAL OFF-SITE MITIGATION AREA TO TURN INTO A WETLAND MITIGATION BANK UNDER TODAY'S WETLAND REGULATORY SCHEME. IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN MR. OLSON IS HERE, HE IS AN EXPERT ON THAT PERMITTING AND WETLAND MITIGATION AND WE CAN HAVE THEM COME TESTIFY ON THE RECORD WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OR WHENEVER YOU WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT. WITH RESPECT TO THE MASTER

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WITH RESPECT TO ROADWAY MITIGATION UC AGAIN THE TERM CREEK PRESERVED WETLAND STRAND UNDER THE CONSERVATION LAND USE AND YOU SEE OTHER WETLANDS THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED IN THE NEW C-AXIS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF THE SPINE ROAD AND THEN ALSO POINT YOU OUT AND GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE ZOOMED IN AREAS WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STAFF STAFFROAD AND SOME OF THE FOLKSN SCOUT ROAD HAVE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS WHICH MR. LANCASTER IN THE EASTLAND TEAM HAVE WORKED WITH BRAD DAVIS WITH RESPEC TO TRYING TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR CURRENT DRAINAGE ISSUE WITHIN THE BODY OF THE ADLER CREEK PROPERTY.

WE CAN HAVE MR. DAVIS COME UP AND TESTIFY ABOUT THAT.

JUST ZOOMING IN AGAIN YOU SEE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED STORM WATER POND ALONG THIS GAFFE ROAD AREA, PLEASE NOTE THERE IS NO INTERCONNECTION WITH STAFF ROAD WE MET A NUMBER OF TIMES A RESIDENCE IN THIS AREA. PRIMARILY BECAUSE PEOPLE ALONG SCUT ROAD AND GROUND LAKE. IF THERE'S NO CONNECTION THE REQUEST OF THOSE VOTES AND ALSO THE STORMWATER FOR THE PEOPLE ALONG SCAFF ROAD. ALSO POINT YOU WANT TO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS A 5T EDGE ON THE ADLER CREEK SIDE FROM'S GAFFE ROAD AND GRAND LAKE.

THE FOLKS AT GRAND LAKE HAVE BEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BUFFERING IN THEIR COMMUNITY BETWEEN THIS COMMUNITY IN EASTLAND TEAM HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE A 50-FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE WHICH MEANS NOT CLEARED ALL OF THAT LEFT IN ITS NATURAL STATE BECAUSE IS NICE TREES WITHIN THE 50 FEET UP AGAINST GRAND LAKE IN GRAND LAKE HAS ANOTHER 30 FEET OF DEVELOPMENT EDGE ON THEIR LINE, THERE SHOULD BE 85 FEET IN TOTAL UNVEGETATED BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO SIMILAR DENSITIES OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS JUST TAKING YOU DOWN ADLER CREEK PARKWAY WILL BE THERE WILL BE NO LOCKS ON THE ROAD. THERE WILL BE LITTLE LOCAL ROADS BUILT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT PODS ALONG THE WAY AND THEN EVENTUALLY CONNECTION DOWN THIS ROAD AND THIS AREA.

WHICH WILL TALK ABOUT JUST A MINUTE.

WITH RESPECT TO SCHOOL MITIGATION, I KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF SCHOOL CAPACITY.

SO WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ROUTINELY ON THIS PROJECT, WE STARTED ON THIS PROJECT OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

AT THAT TIME THE STATE LAW DID NOT ALLOW TO TAKE DONATION OF HER DEDICATION, COMMISSIONER WALDRON OF A HIGH SCHOOL SITE IF THEY DID NOT HAVE FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT TO SCHOOL ON THAT SITE WITHIN FIVE YEARS. ENOUGH TIME HAS PASSED, THE LEGISLATURE HAS ACTUALLY CHANGED THE LAW SO NOW THE SCHOOL BOARD CAN ACCEPT DEDICATION OF THE 10S PART OF THIS PROJECT SCHOOL MITIGATION AND THEY CAN HOLD NOT LAND ON THE BOOKS UNTIL THEY HAVE THE FUNDS TO BUILD ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, THAT SCHOOL SITE WHICH ALSO YOU IN A MINUTE CONNECTS STATE ROAD 16 AS WELL AS THE FUTURE 2209 AND THAT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED IN A SHARED MITIGATION AGREEMENT WHICH HAS BEEN AWARDED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THEIR REVIEWS SO WERE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS. HERE IS THE SCHOOL SITE, AGAIN YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT CONNECTS TO STATE ROAD 16 ON THE EAST AND HERE'S THE SCHOOL SITE IT'LL CONNECT TO THE FUTURE 2209 WHICH RUNS THIS WAY. THIS IS THE RIGHT AWAY OWNED BY THE COUNTY. THE ROAD HAS NOT BEEN CONSTRUCTED AT THIS POINT BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD COULD HAVE ACCESS FROM STATE ROAD 16 IF IT NEEDED THE SCHOOL SITE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. WITH RESPECT TO TRANSPORTATION WHICH I KNOW IS ANOTHER HOT BUTTON FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE PROPOSED FOR TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 1 MILE OF COUNTY ROAD 2209 SOUTH FROM STATE ROAD 16 AND 3 MILES OF THE OTHER CREEK PARKWAY AT 2209 DOWN TO THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY THROUGH ADLER CREEK PROPERLY UNDER PROPERTY AND CONNECTING TO THE STUDY ROAD.

THAT IS 4 MILES OF COLLECTOR ROAD BEING DEVELOPED AT THIS DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE. THEY WILL BUILD THE ROAD UP

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THE DEVELOPMENT WILL START ON THE NORTH END AND WORK ITS WAY SOUTH AND BEFORE THEY CAN PULL A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE FIRST HOME WITHIN ADLER CREEK ON THE NORTH SIDE THE PROPOSAL IS FOR EASTLAND TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL SECURITY FOR THE CONTINUATION OF ADLER CREEK PARKWAY, THE CONSTRUCTION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THIS ROAD. SO WE HAVE A TRANSPORTATION PROPORTION SHARE AGREEMENT THAT IS THEN REVIEWED WITH YOUR STAFF. WE CAN PUT THESE DETAILS INTO THAT AGREEMENT OR WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE DETAILS INTO THE PUD TAX DOLLAR, WHERE YOU WISH SO YOU WILL KNOW THIS ROAD WILL BE BUILT UP FRONT AND FINANCIALLY SECURED BEFORE THERE IS ONE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ISSUED FOR THIS PROJECT.

WITH RESPECT WE TALKED ABOUT PROPORTIONATE SHARE LAW, THIS PROJECT PROPORTIONATE SHARE IS 13.6 ALMOST 13.7 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN A CALCULATION BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR STAFF. THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF THE 4 MILES OF ROAD, $22098.7 MILLION FOR 1 MILE AND THEN ADLER CREEK PARKWAY 18.2$18.2FOR THE 3 MILES.

THE TOTAL OBLIGATION IS ABOUT $27 MILLION.

ALL OF THAT MONEY WILL BE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPER WILL CONSTRUCT THAT ROAD WITH HIS OWN MONEY AND IF THE COST IS MORE THAN $27 MILLION THIS DEVELOPER WILL BEAR THE RISK OF ANY COST OVERWORKED. SO THAT'S WHAT'S INTENDED AGAIN, THIS IS THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE THAN THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC BENEFIT OF ALMOST 13.4 MILLION AND IT COULD BE MUCH HIGHER DEPENDING IF COSTS CONTINUE FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION BUT AGAIN THAT IS A BURDEN FINANCIALLY IN A RISK FINANCIALLY THAT EASTLAND IS GOING TO MAKE FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO WE JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

WITH RESPECT TO THE REGIONAL ROADWAY NETWORK AND HOW THIS TIES IN THEIR ROAD AGAIN WILL BE CONSTRUCTED DOWN THROUGH ADLER CREEK PARKWAY TO PACETTI ROAD WHICH WILL ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON THIS INTERSECTION BECAUSE FOLKS CAN COME AND GO NORTH ON ADLER CREEK PARKWAY GO NORTH ON 29 BUT YOU SAY WAIT THERE GOING TO STOP RIGHT HERE TO TAKE ROAD 16.

WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH YOUR STAFF, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE FUNDS TO BUILD THE SCREEN PORTION OF 2209 BETWEEN STATE ROAD 16 IN INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY SO ALL TALK ABOUT THE ROADWAY TIMING IN A MINUTE BUT IT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT THESE TWO ROADWAY LINKS BE COORDINATED SO 2209 ON ADLER CREEK OBLIGATION IF YOU WILL AND 2209 ON THE COUNTY OBLIGATION IF YOU WILL BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME IN CORONATION AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THE ADLER CREEK DEVELOPER TO COORDINATE THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION USING THE MONEY FOR THE GREEN LINK OF 2209 FROM ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, THAT CAN BE DONE SO THERE IS A SEAMLESS CONSTRUCTION IN THE PUD SAYS THE ADLER CREEK DEVELOPER WILL PROVIDE THE SIGNALING STATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF 2209 IN STATE ROAD 16.

JUST TALKING ABOUT TIMING BECAUSE I KNOW RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE SAYING WHEN IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THE ROAD BEFORE THE ROAD IS TO N CONSTRUCTED.

HERE IS THE TIMELINE HOPEFULLY TODAY IS HER PUD APPROVAL, IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO GET PERMITS APPROVED SO THAT 2209 AND ADLER CREEK PARKWAY CAN BE COMPLETED ABOUT OCTOBER 2024.

IF YOU WANT TO DOVETAIL IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF 2209 BETWEEN STATE ROUTE 16 AND IDP, WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ANTICIPATED IN EARLY 2025 TO BE COMPLETED AND THEN THE FIRST DEAL FOR A HOME AND ADLER CREEK WILL BE APPROXIMATELY JUNE OF 2025. SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE 2209 IN THE AREA, NOT FOUR-LANE, CONSTRUCTED IN THE TOOLING CONFIGURATION AND ADLER CREEK, I'M NOT SURE I THINK IT'S FOUR LANES WITHIN THE COUNTY SECTION OF 16 AND IDP BUT MR. SIMS IS HERE AND HE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THE IDEA, THIS WOULD PROVIDE A TRANSPORTATION SOLUTION FOR PEOPLE TO GET FROM PACETTI ROAD THROUGH ADLER CREEK ON ADLER CREEK PARK WEIGHT 229 ETIQUETTE TO 16 THEY GO STRAIGHT ON 2209 TO IDP AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY 2209 UP THROUGH SILVER EARLY INTO THE PORTION OF 2209 IT WAS

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WE TRIED TO PLAN THIS ALTOGETHER, AGAIN BRINGING CONSTRUCTION TO THE TABLE FOR TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION.

THEN WITH RESPECT TO PROJECT BENEFITS, AGAIN CONSTRUCTION OF A 4-MILE REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT ROAD THERE WILL BE A MULTIPLY PURPOSE PATH CONSTRUCTED ON THE ENTIRE 4 MILES OF PEOPLE CAN RIDE THEIR BIKES, RUN WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO ALONG ADLER CREEK PARKWAY UP TO 2209. THERE IS A DEDICATION OF 100-ACRE PUBLIC SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL SITE COMMITTED TO LOOP THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM TO IMPROVE WATER PRESSURE IN FIRE FLOWS IN THE AREA, COMMITMENT TO THE WATER CONSERVATION PRESERVATION OF THE AREAS WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

PRESERVATION OF THE 220 ACRES OF WETLANDS AND THE CURRENT CONDITION PRESERVATION OF 100 ACRES OF THE FLOODPLAIN, PRESERVATION OF ALMOST HALF OF THE PROPERTY HAS OPEN SPACE INCLUDING THE HABITAT, SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITIES HABITAT, ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES IN WETLANDS INCLUDING THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH TURNBULL CREEK AND THE 50/50 ELEMENT ADJACENT TO GRAND LAKE AND STAFF ROAD WHICH WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE RESIDENTS FOR BUFFERING AND COMPATIBILITY AND LOCATED THE STORM WATER POND ALONG SCAN FOR ROAD TO HELP ASSIST THOSE NEIGHBORS IN ALLEVIATE THEIR EXISTING DRAINAGE PROBLEM. POINTING YOU BACK TO WHERE THAT OCCURS, IT IS MY UNDERSANDING THAT MR. DAVIS AND MR. LANCASTER HAVE BEEN CORRELATED WITH THEIR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF TO TRY TO FIND SOME KIND OF A DRAINAGE ALLEVIATION OR REMEDY FOR THE FOLKS ALONG SCAFF ROAD IN THE EASLEY GROUP IS HAPPY TO HELP HOWEVER. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM MR. DAVIS WHO IS OUR EXPERT ON THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY HAPPEN.

SO STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS PUD'S ZONING RECOMMENDATION THEY RECOMMENDED 60 BACK ONE THAT YOU APPROVE THIS APPLICATION SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AGAIN THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PUD.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONFERENCE A PLAN JUST CLEARLY SHOWING THE RESIDENTIAL C AREA WITH THE TAX POLICY IS 1682 UNITS MAXIMUM, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THAT THE DENSITIES ARE SIMILAR AND IT IS PROVIDING THE REQUIRED MITIGATION FOR TRANSPORTATION AND SCHOOLS UNDER FLORIDA LAW.

WITHOUT BEING SAID I WILL RESERVE SOME REBUTTAL AND ADDITIONAL FACTS AND CASE LAW FOR OUR REBUTTAL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WILL HEAR FROM ANY OF HER EXPERTS THEY ARE HERE TO TESTIFY HOWEVER, YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

>> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. MS. BETH QUESTION? LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FOR.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WITH THE PUBLIC, ON EDGE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE COME

FORWARD. >> GOOD MORNING 15 BLACKBERRY LANE ST. JOHN'S. IT IS NICE TO HAVE LARGE PROJECTS LIKE THIS COME ALONG THAT CAN OFFER SO MUCH.

I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED I UP ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETING WITH ART LANCASTER AND AL AND AVERY SMITH AND WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE BASKET OF GOODIES THAT THEY WERE PROVIDING A HIGH SCHOOL SITE, THE PARKWAY, WHAT I CAME AWAY WITH MOSTLY THANKING THE BYPASS AND HOW THIS PROJECT WOULD BYPASS THE CONGESTION ON 16 AND THE PACETTI INTERSECTION AND SO FORTH.

WITH THAT IN MIND REVIEWING THE APPLICATION AND HERE TO SAY I BELIEVE THE PROJECT SHOULD EITHER CONTINUE TO BE UNCERTAIN WERE DENIED, THERE'S ONE REASON FOR THAT WHICH IS THAT THE PROPOSED BYPASS DOES NOT DELIVER TODAY WITH YOU ABOUT THE COUNTY'S PLANS TO CONSTRUCT THEIR SEGMENT 2209 BETWEEN 16 AND IDP. THAT'S IMPORTANT BUT THAT BYPASS STILL DOES NOT DELIVER BECAUSE THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS IDENTIFIED THAT BOTH STATE ROUTE 16 IN IGE P ARE ADVERSELY AFFECTED AND ADVERSELY AFFECTED. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GIVES YOU THE DISCRETION TO DENY THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONTINUED BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU THE DISCRETION TO DENY BASED ON A 1311 WHICH SAYS A REZONING REQUEST SHALL NOT BE APPROVED AT THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC FLOW OF THE PERMITTED USE HAVE AN

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THIS BYPASS EVEN COMPLETED STILL DOES.

I BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS TO EARLY I WOULD ADD TO THIS NOT ONLY 16 IDP, ALSO TO EARLY BECAUSE PERHAPS IT SHOULD WAIT FOR FUNDING FOR THE WIDENING OF 16 AND I KNOW THE COUNTY IS WORKING VERY HARD TO SECURE THAT FUNDING, VERY, VERY HARD THERE IS A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE LINED UP AND WAITING FOR THAT FUNDING TO COME TRUE. I WAS CAUGHT BY A PORTION IN THE APPLICATION IN WHICH THE APPLICANT SAID PACETTI ROAD WOULD NOT BE WIDENED. ISN'T PARTICULARLY GERMANE HERE BUT THAT WAS ASS ACROSS THE HEAD FOR ME WHICH ONLY LEAVES OPEN PERHAPS THE BYPASS. A CONTINUANCE WAIT UNTIL STATE ROUTE FUNDING OR DENIAL DOESN'T MEET A1 311 PARAGRAPH TWO.

IT'S A GOOD PROJECT IN EVERY OTHER WAY EXCEPT FOR TRAFFIC IN MY OPINION. I WISH IT WOULD WAIT, THANK YOU

SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE

LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES, MA'AM, WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> I'M HERE TO REQUEST TO DENY. >> DORIS TAYLOR TO AWAIT ROAD

SAINT AUGUSTINE. >> THINK YOU.

>> I REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THIS FLAT OUT OR AT LEAST DELAY IT I HEARD THIS MORNING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DYING FROM FENTANYL OVERDOSE.

40 PEOPLE A MONTH, THAT'S HORRENDOUS.

AND YET WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DYING FROM TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS WHICH IS OVER 90 PEOPLE PER MONTH IN THIS COUNTY. AND IF WE KEEP ADDING MORE HOUSES AND MORE PEOPLE IN MORE CARS, THAT WILL ONLY GET WORSE BY APPROVING UNCONTROLLED DEVELOPMENT WE ARE KILLING PEOPLE, USING THE TERM TRAFFIC IS NICE AND PLEASANT BUT TRAFFIC MEANS DEATH, LET'S GET SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, THOSE ROADS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE CARS YOU LOAD ONTO THEM AND PEOPLE WILL DIE BECAUSE OF IT. PLEASE DELAY THIS AT LEAST 10 YEARS UNTIL AFTER THOSE ROADS ARE IMPROVED, UNTIL WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THE CARS THAT YOU LOAD ONTO IT.

THANK YOU. >> MS. TAYLOR JUST BECAUSE WERE CONSIDERING ALL COMPETENCE SUBSTANTIAL, WHERE DID YOU GET THE STAT 90 PEOPLE PER MONTH DYING IN ST. JOHN'S.

>> ACTUALLY THAT'S 31 PEOPLE PER HUNDRED THOUSAND IN 2018 AND I GOT OFF THE INTERNET. I WILL FORWARD YOU THE LINK.

I PICKED IT UP THIS MORNING. >> 90 PEOPLE PER MONTH STRIKES

ME AS HIGH. >> IT IS HIGH IS OUTRAGEOUS.

>> WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 300,000 PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY RIGHT NOW,

IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> IF IN 2018 THE STATISTIC WAS 31 PEOPLE DYING PER 100,000 IN THIS COUNTY, I AM ASSUMING THAT IT'S AT LEAST THAT BAD TODAY.

>> I'M GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF ON THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SAY 90 PER MONTH OR DYING OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS?

>> I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT. >> PLEASE DO.

>> THANK YOU MS. TAYLOR. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> ENOUGH ALREADY I THINK FINLEY PETER DUNNE'S CHARACTER, MR. DOOLEY SAID THE SUPREME COURT POLICY ELECTION RETURNS AND I KNOW YOU LADY AND GENTLEMEN ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THEM TO. PEOPLE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AS MAYOR TRACY SAID AT THE LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING HAVE BEEN LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT OVERDEVELOPMENT.

HERE WE GO AGAIN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION ANYMORE. SINCE HUNTER CONRAD BECAME COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WE DON'T HAVE A STAFF PERSON AT THESE MICROPHONES MAKING A PRESENTATION.

IT'S ALL THE LOBBYIST AND THE LAWYERS FOR THE DEVELOPER, WE DON'T EVEN REQUIRE LOBBYIST TO REGISTER AND ANYTHING ANYBODY IS GOING TO SELL YOU AIN'T WORTH BUYING.

A GOOD LINE FROM TOM WICKER FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, IF NOT WITH FACING THE LIONS. KATHY BROWN PUT IT BEST, PUD'S ARE SNEAKY WAY OF GETTING AROUND ZONING, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A TRANSCRIPT IN THE BOOK OF THE MEETING OF THE PCA, IT WAS A 6 W

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PLEASE LISTEN TO US. PLEASE LISTEN TO US.

AND IT DENY THIS OR POSTPONE IT EITHER WAY, MR. MCINERNEY IS TOTALLY BRIGHT AS USUAL HE HAS DONE HIS RESEARCH IN I THINK IT'S REALLY ADMIRABLE THAT YOU ALL SWORE AND THE WITNESSES, PLEASE DO THAT FROM NOW ON BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TOO MANY PROCEEDINGS IN THIS CHAMBER WHERE WITNESSES ARE UNSWORN, WHERE STATEMENTS ARE MADE FALSELY, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF THAT IN WE DO NOT NEED THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT IS TOO BIG, IT IS TOO MUCH, IT IS TOO SOON, THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME BUT AS THE LATE KATHY BROWN SAID PUD IS A SNEAKY WAY OF GETTING AROUND ZONING. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT HER ZONING MAP OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE LAND USE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS IN PUD'S, AM I CORRECT THAT IT IS MORE THAN HALF, MORE THAN HALF AND YET WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION HERE, THE STAFF IS TREATED DISK RESPECTIVELY BY THE MINISTRY THE STAFF DOES NOT THAT THESE PROJECTS AND TALK TO YOU THEY PUT A COMMERCIAL IN FRONT OF YOU FROM A CORPORATE LAW FIRM. ENOUGH ALREADY, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SERVER. >> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

RECORD. >> YES I AM CHARLES HUNT MILLCREEK ESTATES. I'VE BEEN UP AND SPOKE TO THE BOARD MANY TIMES WERE OBVIOUSLY MILLCREEK ESTATES POSSIBLE ALF THAT WHEN IN AND WE STOOD OUR GROUND ON THAT BUT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON ON PAN CITY ROAD THAT IS AFFECTING IN IT SO VITAL FOR THE AREA TO STAY SMALL AND LEAVE THE AMOUNT OF NEW COMING DEVELOPMENT AT A HOLD.

GRAND OAKS WHEN IT WAS PUTTING DOWN TO 16 THEY SAID THE PUTTING $50 MILLION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF STATE ROAD 16 UP TO THE PAN STUDY STATE ROAD INTERSECTION, THERE IS NONE THEY HAVE A PUT ANY OF THAT IN. I SENT OUT E-MAILS TO EACH ONE OF YOU ALL ABOUT ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS IN AND AROUND THE AREA THAT IS GOING IN NEAR 16P EDDIE ROAD INTERSECTION AND TO INCLUDE NOT JUST SINGLE 1700 HOMES BUT ON PACETTI ROAD THEY WANT TO PUT INTO A 50 ROADS CONDOS ON THAT ONE.

UP BY MOWBRAY. EXCUSE ME, THEY WANT TO PUT IN MORE CONDOS WITH THE 2209 COMES THROUGH THERE IS MORE CONDOS GOING IN THERE, MORE CONDOS GOING ACROSS THE TOWN TO QUITE HIGH SCHOOL. IF THIS IS JUST ONE ONLY 1700 HOMES GOING INTO THIS PROJECT, DON'T WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, IS THE OVERALL PICTURE OF IT, IT IS THE OVERALL PICTURE AND YES I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING AND IT SHOULD BE REZONED FOR THIS, AS I REMEMBER DRIVING BY THERE AND SEEING WITNESSES [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY WAS ONLY GOING TO HAVE 900 HOMES GOING INTO THAT SAME PROPERTY.

YES WHEN THEY STOP THEY KIND OF SLOWED DOWN AND THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT TOOK OVER AND THEY SAID WILL DO THIS WITH ALL OF HER MONEY BUT WE WANT TO PUT IN TWICE AS MANY HOMES AND USE TWICE AS MUCH WATER, TWICE AS MUCH SEWER, TWICE AS MUCH ELECTRICITY, TWICE AS MUCH VEHICLE TRAFFIC, TWICE AS MUCH AIR POLLUTION BUT WERE GOING TO BUILD A ROAD FROM OUR OWN MONEY THAT WE MAKE. THAT'S THE CONCEPT OF WHAT ADLER CREEK HAS BECOME. WE WILL HELP PAVE THIS ROAD, WE WILL HELP THE 2209 COME IN BUT WE WANT TO EXPAND OUR

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>> THANK YOU, SIR FOR YOUR COMMENTS, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM?

>> CHUCK 1738. I THINK IT'S GREAT AND OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY, THE TIMING IS TERRIBLE RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT 2209 SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING THROUGH THEIR, THAT'S AWESOME BUT WHAT IS NOT GOING TO DO TO 16.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE THERE IS GOOD TO BE AN ESTIMATED 1200 HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT BEFORE 16 IS EVEN FINISHED, I HAD A MEETING WITH APP., RIGHT NOW THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES THEY HAVE TO ACQUIRE SOME LAND TO HAVE THE STORM WATER WHICH THEY HAVEN'T DONE YET.

THEY'VE ONLY GOT A PROPOSE 15 MILLION COMING OUT OF GRAND OAKS, THAT'S NOT EVEN BEEN FINALIZED YET.

I KNOW THE BOARD HAS SENT A LETTER OUT TO HAVE IT FINALIZED.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT WE COULD BE DUMPING ON 16.

WERE LOOKING RIGHT NOW, 15 MILLIONS BEEN ALLOCATED OR PROPOSED BY GRAND OAKS, STILL NOT FINALIZED YET.

IT'S GOING TO COST CLOSE TO 100 MILLION DUE TO THE ROADWAY ACCORDING TO F.20 MILLION PER MILE TO DO THE ROAD.

THE CONNECTOR IS GREAT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE TRAFFIC OFFICE 16 AND DUMP IT ON IDP IT IS OVERCAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

ESPECIALLY WITH BUGGIES, COSTCO AND NOW HOME DEPOT IS GOING IN THERE AND RUMORS TOP GOLF MAYBE GOING IN THE AREA.

WHERE WE MOVING THAT TRAFFIC TO. THAT IS TWO YEARS.

[INAUDIBLE] THE LAST I HEARD ONLY 3 MILLION FOR THE CONNECTOR THAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW THAT WAS THE LAST REPORT BEFORE THIS BOARD TWO MONTHS AGO. 3 MILLION AND IS GOING TO COST MORE THAN THAT IT'S GOING TO COST CLOSE TO 10 MILLION TO BUILD THAT CONNECTOR. YOU DENIED SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS ON 16, WAS THAT DUE TO THE CAPACITY OF THE TRAFFIC ON

16? >> WERE LOOKING ADLER CREEK ONCE HE GETS DEVELOPED, WE ARE GOING TO BE DUMPING TRAFFIC OUT OF PACETTI ON THE LOWER END. NOT ALL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO NORTH, THE GOOD TO GO TO PACETTI BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOLS ARE ARE OFF TO PACETTI.

WHAT'S GOING TO DO TO PACETTI ROAD ON THE SOUTH END YOU HAVE A NICE CURVE THERE. ON THE NORTH END YOU HAVE DEADMAN'S CURVE IN THEIR, YOUR DUMPING A LOT OF TRAFFIC ONTO A ROAD THAT THERE IS NO PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY.

WE NEED TO SLOW IT DOWN, WE NEED TO HOLD OFF ON THIS DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THOSE ROADS ARE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED AND FDOT CAN COME IN THERE, NOT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, AFTER ALL IS GOING TO DO 165

YEARS FROM NOW. >> THANK YOU IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TURN INTO THOSE PAPERS. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE THE PUBLIC, NUMBER FOUR ON ADLER CREEK, IF YOU WANT TO BE NEXT YOU CAN USE THE PODIUM OVER HERE AND WILL CALL IN YOU WHEN YOUR

NECK. >> YES, SIR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> AND MATT 2229 PACETTI ROAD, I'M RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF PACETTI CHURCH, YOU TALK ABOUT LOSING HER CHARACTER IN HER AREA ABOUT THE OLD CHURCH PROPERTY RIGHT THERE ON CHURCH ROAD, TALK ABOUT HISTORICAL CHURCH THAT A BE DISAPPEARING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. TO REITERATE WHAT CHUCK WAS SAYING THAT TRAFFIC ON PACETTI HAS ALREADY GONE BAD, REALLY BAD MY KIDS GO TO THE SCHOOL THE COUNTY WE HAD A COUPLE SAFETY SITUATIONS ONE OF THE DEADMAN CURVES THAT WAS DISCUSSED I WAS WITNESSED TO PEOPLE WHO TOOK A TURN TOO FAST AND IT RESULTED IN A FATALITY. SO I DON'T SEE HOW THIS 2209 COUNTY ROAD IS GOING TO REALLY FIX THE ISSUE THERE, THE AREA CONTINUES TO GROW REALLY FROM PICK A LOT OF ELEMENTARY ALL THE WAY TO SEQUOIA HIGH SCHOOL IS BECOME ONE BIG SCHOOL ZONE.

WITHOUT FACTORING IN THE SAFETY ISSUES AND HER KIDS GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL I'M ALWAYS DEATHLY AFRAID OF KIDS GOING TO PACETTI ROAD OR GRAND LAKE OR TRAIL MARKED TO GO FISHING PONDS AND RIDE THE TRAILS. IT'S BECOME A SERIOUS SAFETY

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IF YOU LOOK AT THE AREA TODAY NOW 26 SQUARE MILES WITH THE MOST 80000 PEOPLE TO A CITY KNOWN AS WESTON, WHAT I'VE SEEN THE SAME THING IN OUR COUNTY. WERE BECOMING ONE BIG MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY AND BRING IN AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S NOT TO SAY SOME OF THESE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AREN'T A GOOD FIT FOR OUR COUNTY, JUST THIS ONE RIGHT NOW IS NOT A GOOD FIT WE HEARD ONE OF THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING WE HEARD A PORTION OF 16 IS NOT FUNDED FOR EXPANSION, PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING THAT CORNER EAST AND WEST, TO AWAIT ON THE SOUTH END IS GETTING BUSIER AND BUSIER WHEN OTHERS DEVELOP IS GOING ON AND THERE IS NO PLAN THAT I KNOW OF TO EXPAND THAT PORTION OF TO AWAIT. I ASKED THE COMMISSION TO PLEASE HOLD OFF ON APPROVING THIS I STILL THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE A GOOD JOB AT PRESENTING A LOT OF GOOD INCENTIVES BUT IT DOESN'T ALLEVIATE ALL THE ISSUES THAT WERE SEEN IN OUR AREA.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SURFER YOUR

COMMENTS, ANYBODY ELSE? >> YES, MA'AM NAME AND ADDRESS

PLEASE FOR THE RECORD. >> [INAUDIBLE] ROSA CIRCLE.

WE WILL BE PERSONALLY IMPACTED. JUST LIKE CHUCK, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAID. HIS PRESENTATION, I WISH I WAS MORE PREPARED I COULD'VE BROUGHT THINGS UP THAT I COULD'VE SHOWN.

JUST COMING HERE THIS MORNING IT TOOK ME THREE TIMES LONGER JUST EXIT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC ON 16.

IT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. WE NEED TO HAVE 16 ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING APPROVED.

I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE TABLED UNTIL THE COUNTY CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY MORE THOUSAND HOMES HAVE BEEN IN OUR GENERAL AREA AND I MEANT- THOUSANDS THAT ARE NOT BUILT Y YET.

WE JUST CAN'T HANDLE THIS RIGHT NOW, IT IS JUST NOT GOING TO WORK. THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, CHILDREN ARE CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW THEY CAN GET THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL, SEVEN MINUTES TILL NINE THIS MORNING I SAW CHILDREN STANDING ON THE CORNER IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAITING FOR A BUS, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH BUSES.

ANOTHER PROPOSING ANOTHER SCHOOL BUT ANOTHER SCHOOL IS GOING TO MEAN A LOT MORE TRAFFIC. UNTIL THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE HANDLED I THINK WE NEED TO TABLE THIS.

I THINK IT'S A VERY NICE PROPOSITION WITH HER TALKING ABOUT BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST NOT READY FOR IN THE COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE NEXT PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO PLEASE SILENCE HERSELF ON. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE IN THE AUDITORIUM FOR THE FIRST TIME BUT PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE, PUT IT ON VIBRATE SO WE CAN CONTINUE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION. WE DID WHAT HE IS LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM?

[INAUDIBLE] >> SHERRY BADGER 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. WOW, THIS IS KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE, I HAD TO CREEK GOING TO GREEN COAT DURING THE WEEK BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS SO BAD OUT THERE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE WEEKEND. ONE COMMENT TO WHAT AVERY SMITH SAID, THE SUPREME COURT DOES RECOGNIZE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITS EXPERT WITNESSES.

IT'S A PLEA OUT OF ROGERS AND TOWERS, LET'S SEE WE CAN GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO GEORGE MCWHORTER GETTING UP RECALLING THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEAR IT CLEAR OF THE CROWD AND YOU NEED

TO DENY THIS, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MS. BADGER FOR YOUR COMMENT, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SEEING NONE. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR I DID NOT

SEE HER. >> IN MORNING BJ.

>> I'M TINY BUT I'M NOT THAT TINY.

>> NO MA'AM I JUST DID NOT SEE YOU THAT'S ALL.

>> WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. CLAMOR INCOMPETENCE, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY THOSE WITH INFORMATION THEY TURNED IN AND NEIGHBORS AFFECTED BY THIS.

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THEY ARE JUST EXPERTS TO AND THEY ARE COMPETENT AND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. THEY ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF THIS COUNTY IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO LIVE IN. HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES, YES THREE BUT AT LEAST GO WITH THE TWO COMPETENT INFORMATION THAT YOU BEEN GIVEN TODAY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK WITH YOU BEHIND THE SCENES LIKE THE COMPETENT LAWYER TO TABLE IT OR DENY AND, YOU CAN DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT.

LET'S SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S PAST 10:30 A.M. BUT IT'S GETTING DONE HOPEFULLY SO WE CAN GET TO THE REAL ONE BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME IN HERE.

I BEEN STANDING IN THE BACK, THERE WAITING ANXIOUSLY TO SPEAK UP. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE NEED A BREAK LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER FOUR. >> MR. CHAIRMAN OBSCENE THAT

WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC,. >> BEFORE YOU START, FOR ALL THOSE HERE ON OFTEN INDUSTRIAL PARK, IT WAS FREE TIME CERTAIN AT 10:30 A.M. BUT WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO RUN PAST 1030 BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO INDUSTRIAL PARK BEFORE 1030 AND THEN THE PEOPLE SHOW UP AND SAY WHAT'S GOING ON, WHY AREN'T YOU EARLY ON THIS.

I DID NOT WANT TO INTERRUPT THIS PROJECT ALTHOUGH I'M INTERRUPTING IT NOW I GUESS BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP THE OFTEN INDUSTRIAL PARK AS SOON AS THIS PROJECT IS OVER.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND WE WILL MOVE ALONG, I DO WANT TO SAY FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

AS A LAWYER I REFER TO THE LAW BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M TRAINED IN AND THAT'S MY PROFESSION AND THAT'S MY JOB WHEN I REFER TO CASE LAW LIKE THE CITY VERSUS MIAMI-DADE CHARTER WHICH SPECIFICALLY SAYS IN THE CASE LAW THAT COMPETENT EVIDENCE IS EVIDENCE SUFFICIENT RELEVANT MATERIAL TO THE ULTIMATE DETERMINATION THAT A REASONABLE MIND WOULD ACCEPT AS ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT THE CONCLUSION REACHED, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS EVIDENCE THAT PROVIDES A FACTUAL BASIS FOR WHICH A FACT ISSUE MAY BE REASONABLY INCURRED. GENERALIZED STATEMENTS IN OPPOSITION TO A LAND-USE PROPOSAL EVEN THOSE FROM AN EXPERT SHOULD BE DISREGARDED THAT'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I DO WANT TO PUT IN WHEN I MENTIONED THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD, THAT IS FROM A CASE THAT IS CALLED THE CITY OF STAY AUGUSTINE VERSUS ROBERT BREVARD.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE CLAMOR OF THE CROWD SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS EVIDENCE, WHAT THAT MEANS AN ILLUSTRATION OF THAT IS LITERALLY E-MAILS THAT THE COUNTY, ALL OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS THAT ARE LITERALLY COPIED OFF SOCIAL MEDIA, PASTED INTO E-MAILS TO ALL OF YOU AND HIT SENT.

MANY OF THOSE DON'T HAVE NOTHING BUT AN E-MAIL ADDRESS, THEY DON'T CONTAIN A PERSON'S NAME OR PHYSICAL ADDRESS WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY OR ANYWHERE NEAR THE PROPERTY. SO WHEN I MENTION CLAMOR OF THE CROWD, THAT IS THESE COPY AND PASTE E-MAILS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA ARE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

AND I FEEL COMPELLED TO SAY THAT IN DEFENSE OF NOT ONLY MY CLIENT BUT ALSO OF YOU BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS FAIRNESS, THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, THIS BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY IT HAS A RESIDENTIAL SEED LAND-USE WITH THE TAX POLICY FOR 1682 MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THAT WAS DECIDED ALREADY.

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THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, BY HAVING A MAXIMUM OF 1682 UNITS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT CAN FINANCIALLY AFFORD TO SPEND $27 MILLION TO BUILD A 4-MILE REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT CONNECTOR ROADWAY AND THEY WILL RISK.

NOT GIVING OVER A PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF $13 MILLION TO THE COUNTY AND SAYING HERE'S MY MONEY COUNTY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THEIR MONEY AND THEIR RISK ON THE TABLE HERE AND THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN MOST OTHER DEVELOPERS IN THIS COUNTY.

I WANT TO REITERATE THAT. SILVERLEAF IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO PUTS THEIR MONEY ON THE GROUND FIRST AND THAT'S WHAT EASTLAND IS ALSO PROPOSING TO DO WITH RESPECT TO THIS ENTIRE ROADWAY. I ALSO WANT TO GO BACK TO THE IDEA FROM THE PEOPLE ON PACETTI ROAD WITH RESPECT TO THE CONGESTION ON PACETTI ROAD IN THIS AREA.

THE IDEA THAT WAS REACHED WITH EASTLAND IN YOUR STAFF, YOUR PROFESSIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING STAFF THIS WOULD BE A RELIEVER ROAD AND I THINK MAYBE WE EITHER HAVE WILL WARM [INAUDIBLE] THAT THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY DOES HAVE THAT MONEY TO BUILD THIS LINK AND THIS WILL PROVIDE A LEVER ROADWAY WHERE THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND OTHER THAN ON THIS PORTION RIGHT NOW. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUILD A SIGNIFICANT ROADWAY THAT CAN BE USED BY PEOPLE IN THIS WHOLE AREA AS THE DULY PURPOSE FOR PACETTI ROAD. IN THE ST. JOHN'S DRI, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO PACETTI ROAD ARE NOT SCHEDULED FOR MANY, MANY TRANSPORTATION INTO THAT DRI. IF MY RECOLLECTION THAT IS A STRAIGHTENING OUT OF THE CURVE IN AFFIXING OF A TWO LANE ROAD AND NOT MAKING PACETTI [INAUDIBLE].

I MENTIONED TO YOU NOT TO LABOR THE POINT, I KNOW YOU'RE UNDER A TIME CRUNCH BUT I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE OBVIOUSLY TRANSPORTATION IS ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM LITERALLY AND SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE 27 MILLION PLUS DOLLARS FOR A 4-MILE ROAD THAT WOULD TIE IN BEAUTIFULLY WITH YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE MISSING LINK BETWEEN 16 AND I GP TO PROVIDE A CLEAN TRANSPORTATION APPROVED AND VERY SOON BEFORE THE FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS EVEN ISSUED FOR THIS PROJECT.

I WILL HAVE MY EXPERTS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF US AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. I KNOW THIS IS NOT EASY, THANK

YOU. >> THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT OF THE COMMISSIONERS? LET'S FIRST START WITH PAUL, PAUL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE GO TO THE COMMISSION?

>> NO, SIR I DO NOT. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A LIST, SORRY, FORGIVE ME. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF 2209 IN ADLER CREEK PARKWAY.

DOES THE APPLICANT OWN ALL OF THAT LAND AT THIS POINT? BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE COUNTY OWNED SOME OF IT.

I WANTED TO KNOW IF STAFFORD ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH

EASTLAND. >> YES I'M GOING TO HAVE MR. OLSON, PARENT TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF ON THIS ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE BUT YES THE COUNTY OWNS THE RIGHT AWAY OF COUNTY ROUTE 2209, THE RIGHT AWAY CONTINUES THIS WAY, THE COUNTY ALSO OWNS THE LAND FROM HERE DOWN TO THIS POINT, THIS IS THE PACETTI PROPERTY SOUTH OF THE REDLINE. SO THIS IS ONGOING PROPERTY AND I'M GOING TO HAVE MR. OLSON TALK ABOUT WHAT HE'S BEEN THROUGH WITH YOUR STAFF AND VARIOUS AGENCIES WITH RESPECT TO.

>> IN MORNING COMMISSIONERS SHAREHOLDER WITH THE GUN STILL OFFER. 212 SOUTH [INAUDIBLE] 601 TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER APPLICANT DOES NOT OWN THE LAND AND THE APPLICANT FOR THE REZONING DOES NOT OWN THE LAND THERE WAS AN IMPROVEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO SEEK THE APPROPRIATE PERMITS TO CONSTRUCT THE ROADWAY AND ALSO TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE COUNTY OWN REGIONAL OFF-SITE AREA WITH THE ROADWAY PASSING.

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>> IT JUST CONCERNS ME THAT PERHAPS STAFF, I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS WE WOULD VOTE ON OR APPROVE GOING THROUGH MITIGATION BANK AND SELLING COUNTY OWNED LAND.

I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT ARE THERE, I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, IT'S WATER MANAGEMENT, ARMY CORPS, HAVE ALL THOSE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS BEEN RELEASED, WE HAVE AGREEMENTS ON ALL THE DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO ACTUALLY RELEASE THE AGREEMENTS SO THIS ROAD CAN EVEN BE CONSTRUCTED?

>> NO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT PROCESS CURRENTLY, THE REASON.

>> PLEASE HOLD YOUR COMMENTS, WE NEED TO HEAR THE TESTIMONY.

>> THE REASON WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT IS BECAUSE THE COUNTY ASKED US TO ATTEMPT TO REMEDY AN EXISTING PROBLEM THEY WERE HAVING WITH OFF-SITE MITIGATION AREA THAT THE COUNTIES BEEN TRYING TO GET SOME PERMITS IN THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ROADWAY SITE IMPROVEMENT IN THE PROPERTY OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAS NOT BEEN RECOGNIZING THE USE OF THE OFF-SITE MITIGATION AREA FOR A LOT OF REASONS MOST OF WHICH IS SOMEWHAT OF AN OUTDATED MITIGATION PROJECT.

SO THE COUNTY ASKED FIRST CAN WE HELP THEM TRY TO GET TO THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR THOSE TWO COUNTY ROAD PROJECTS IN IF WE COULD COMPLETE THAT THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO OBTAINING A PERMIT FOR THIS ONE. IN VIRTUALLY DESPITE HAVING MET WITH DEP TALLAHASSEE THEY HAD SOME INPUT FROM DPA SAYING NO WE CAN'T ALLOW THEM TO USE THAT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS HAVE CHANGED IN WHICH THE REGIONAL MITIGATION AREA WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP AND THERE IS A NEW RANKING OF MITIGATION PREFERENCES, THIS ITEM IS RANKED LOWER THAN WHEN IT WAS SET UP IN 2006 - 2007, THAT'S A BIG IMPEDIMENT OF TO WHY DEP IS NOT IMPROVING THAT. WE SPENT TIME WORKING WITH COUNTY STAFF TO FIX THAT ISSUE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PERMITS FOR THAT. HAVING UNABLE TO RESOLVE AND THAT PROCESS MOVING FORWARD OBTAINING AGREEMENT IN OUR GNU PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROADWAY.

>> IS THERE A STAFF MEMBER HERE THAT COULD SHOW ME THIS

AGREEMENT? >> COMMISSIONER.

>> THAT AGREEMENT CAME TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL, ISSUES AND OWNERS AUTHORIZATION TO SEEK THE PERMITS.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE 2209 SEGMENT IS ALREADY REMOVED FROM THE ROMA SO THAT'S NOT A CHANGE REQUIRED THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR BUT THE APPLICANT WANTED AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SEEK EITHER RELOCATION OR RELEASE OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT. SO THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ACHIEVE THAT PRIOR TO THE COUNTY APPROVING ANY CONSTRUCTION FOR

THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU, WE WOULD ALSO AGREE IN THE EVENT THAT THOSE PERMITS ARE NOT OBTAINED OBVIOUSLY THE PROJECT COULD NOT GO FORWARD TODAY WILL BE NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR ADLER CREEK UNTIL THOSE PERMITS ARE OBTAINED IN THE ROAD CAN BE CONSTRUCTED.

>> OKAY I HAVE CONCERNS EVEN WITH THE FUNDING THERE, DON'T GET ME WRONG I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ROAD BUILT, WE NEED THE ROADS BUILT, I'M WONDERING IF NOT GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES WOULD NOT HAVING ANY OF THOSE PERMITS AND RELEASES FROM YOUR AGENCIES. I ALSO QUESTION GOING THROUGH A MITIGATION BANK AND MAKE IT TO THE GREATER PUBLIC BENEFIT FOR

THAT. >> I WILL MENTION EASTLAND HAS BEEN PAYING THE COST OF DOING ALL THE PERMITTING WORK THAT ERIC HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT. ALSO WITH RESPECT TO I'M GOING TO CALL IT FIXING, AND LOOSE QUOTES BECAUSE THE VERNACULAR IS UPDATING YOUR PERMIT SO THE COUNTY CAN ACTUALLY USE YOUR WETLAND MITIGATION BANK AS WETLAND MITIGATION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF COUNTY PROJECTS BECAUSE OF ERIC AND HIS TEAM ON BEHALF OF EASTLAND DON'T GET THAT DONE THEN THAT WILL FALL

BACK TO THE COUNTY STAFF. >> COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] THE CURRENT AREA IS NOT ACTUALLY MITIGATION BANK IS WHAT'S BEEN CALLED A REGIONAL OFF-SITE MITIGATION AREA WHICH AT THE TIME IT WAS DONE IT WAS ALLOWED FEDERAL AND STATE LAW FEDERAL LAW HAS CHANGED ALL OF THAT EPA ADOPTED A NEW ROLE IN 2008 THAT MADE THAT SOMEWHAT OBSOLETE AND FURTHER COMPLICATED BY THE STATE ASSUMING THE DEP WETLAND PERMITTING PROGRAM AT THE END OF 2020, THINGS HAVE CHANGED A BIT IT IS NOW MADE IT PROBLEMATICALLY DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNTY TO USE THAT AND THAT'S WHY WERE GOING TO THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE OTHER THING I DON'T SEE IN THE PLAN OF MET WITH THE PUD SOMETHING THAT ESTABLISHES THE TIMING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD,

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DID I MISS THAT? >> THAT IS A DETAIL IN THE CONCURRENCY AND IMPACT CREDIT AGREEMENT WHICH IS STILL IN DRAFT FORM. AS I SAID EARLIER IF THIS BOARD WOULD PREFER THAT WE WRITE INTO THE PUD THE FACT THAT ONE, THE ROAD WITHIN THE COUNTIES LAND WE WILL CALL IT HAS TO RECEIVE PERMITS FROM ALL APPLICABLE AGENCIES BEFORE A PL PLAT CAN BE APPROVED WITHIN ADLER CREEK AND TO THAT THERE COULD BE NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ISSUED FOR THE FIRST HOME AND ADLER CREEK UNTIL THAT ROAD IS CONSTRUCTED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ADLER CREEK IN THE BOND FINANCIAL SECURITY IS POSTED TO CONSTRUCT THE REMAINDER OF THE ROAD OF ADLER CREEK PARKWAY DOWN TO PACETTI ROAD. SO WE CAN BUILD THOSE TWO IDEAS INTO THE PUD IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE OR INTO THE PENDING CONCURRENCY AND IMPACT CREDIT AGREEMENT.

>> MY CONCERN AGAIN IS GETTING HALF THE ROAD CONSTRUCTED AND THEN THE MARKET NOT ALLOWING FOR THE REST OF THE ROAD TO BE CONSTRUCTED. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT'S KIND

OF WHY WE ARE HERE. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT THAT'S A LEGITIMATE AND EXCELLENT POINT, YOU AS THE BOARD WANT THE ROAD CONSTRUCTED UPFRONT AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ROAD IS ACTUALLY COMPLETED AND THAT IS THE REASON FOR OFFERING THE FINANCIAL SECURITY BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BUILD THE ROAD FROM NORTH TO SOUTH INTO THE PROJECT AND BEFORE THEY CAN GET THE FIRST CO FOR THE FIRST HOUSE WITH DATING OF ADLER CREEK THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL SECURITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW AS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY HAD TO COMPLETE THE ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PACETTI ROAD.

OTHERWISE YOU CAN CALL THAT FINANCIAL SECURITY IN THE COUNTY CAN BUILD THE REMAINDER OF THE ROAD.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOUR DICK SOUZA IF YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY FORWARD. ALSO MR. CONRAD DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION TO VERIFY HOW MANY PEOPLE MONTH ARE LOSING THEIR LIFE AND TRAFFIC FATALITIES IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THE INFORMATION.

I FIND THAT STATISTIC ALARMING. >> WE CAN CHECK WITH THE SHERIFFS OFFICE TO SEE WHAT DATA THEY HAVE, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY INFORMATION THAT STATES THERE'S 90 TRAFFIC UTILITIES PER MONTH IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. TO YOUR POINT THAT SEEMS EXTRA NEARLY HIGH BUT WE CAN CHECK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO

CONFIRM THAT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CONRAD.

>> MR. SOUZA CAN YOU ADD ANY COLOR TO THAT?

>> WE DID LOOK THAT UP WITH 30 DEATHS PER YEAR BASED OFF REPORTS STAFF WAS ABLE TO PULL THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

>> YOU SAID PER YEAR? BE MET 30 PER YEAR.

>> THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR FROM A YEAR AGO TO THE STATE AND IT WAS 31 WE HAD STACKPOLE CALENDAR YEAR AND IT WAS AROUND 30.

>> OKAY THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GERMANE TO THIS CONVERSATION BUT WERE HEARING THINGS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS JUDICIAL HEARING WE NEED TO LEARN WHAT THE FACTS ARE.

I KNOW PEOPLE ARE FREE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO BUT WE DO HAVE THE LUXURY, WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE.

MR. DEUCES OF THE TIMING OF 2209 THAT LINES UP WITH T TIMING OF ADLER CREEK TO BUILD 2209 YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AGREEMENT?

>> THOSE ARE FAIRLY CLOSE WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS THAT CAN SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY WHERE WE STAND ON THAT PROCESS WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN [INAUDIBLE] THEY ARE LOOKING AT AROUND THE SAME TIMELINE AND TO GET SOME SPECIFICS ON THAT.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING WE WILL BE FAIRLY CLOSE TO THAT TIMELINE.

>> CLOSE BUT NOT SURE AND WERE STILL LOOKING TO ACQUIRE THE PONDS I. DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE UPON SITES AND OTHER ISSUES OVER COUNTY THAT ARE CRITICALLY DEFICIENT THAT SEEMS TO TAKE LONGER THAN I'D LIKE AND I'M SURE YOU'D LIKE, WHERE ARE WE IN THAT? CAN WE GET SOMETHING IN WRITING A BLACK AND WHITE TO GUARANTEE IT WILL HAVE UPON SITES SO THIS PLAN DOES IN FACT MATERIALIZE THE WAY WE NEEDED TO FOR THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL?

>> MR. DESOUSA DON'T MISTAKE MY TONE I'M NOT POINTING THE FINGER AT YOU BUT WERE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC.

>> I'M YOUR COUNTY ENGINEER. ALL OF THE STONE WATER POND SITES UP TO SOBERLY HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED ALL THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS ACQUIRED THAT PORTION BETWEEN 16 AND IDP ARE SURVEYED, GAIL OLIVER'S GROUP IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO ACQUIRE A PROPERTY WE ARE TO HAVE PRICING AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S GOING

TO COST. >> THANK YOU MR. KENT.

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>> MR. DESOUSA THE TRAFFIC MODELING, THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN ADLER CREEK, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO DO WHEN 2209 IS BUILT AS A MODEL SHOW THEM USING 22092 EXTENT, DOES THE MODEL HAVE THEM GOING NORTH THROUGH THE PROPERTY IN EAST ON 16? I JUST WOULD HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

>> KIND OF UP IN THE AIR ONCE 2209 GETS BUILT FROM THE INTERSECTION THE EXPECTATION THAT WILL TAKE A SIGNIFICANT LOAD OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE MORE LIENS AND WATER FACILITY TAKES YOU TO IDP WHICH EBBS A WATER FACILITY THE SPLIT SHOWS PEOPLE WILL TRAVEL NORTH INTO THE AREA FOR WORK WILL WANT TO TAKE THAT BECAUSE IT WILL BE MORE DIRECT SUITABLE ALL THAT TRAFFIC AND REMOVE PEOPLE FROM THE INTERSECTION OF 16 AND IDP BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE THEIR CUT AS WELL.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD OFF TO GO BACK AND PULL, WERE LOOKING AT A REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC BECAUSE WILL HAVE A FOUR LANE FACILITY BETWEEN 16 AND IDP

UP TO IDP ACCESS. >> LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, THE PROPORTION OF SHARED AGREEMENT THAT WAS MADE, I UNDERSTOOD THE DEVELOPERS OFFERING FAR ABOVE THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OBLIGATION BUT THOSE NUMBERS WERE MADE USING THE 2021

NUMBERS. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THOSE WERE MADE UNDER THE 2021 NUMBERS WE DO NOT HAVE THE

UPDATED. >> YOU WILL HAVE THEM SO THEREFORE WE CANNOT USE THEM. I'M NOT IMPLYING ANYBODY SHE USED 2022 BUT WE KNOW THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE WITH OTHER

PROJECTS. >> WE HOPING THOSE NUMBERS, ANY DAY. WERE STILL WAITING FOR THOSE TO

BE PUBLISHED. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> TO THAT POINT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST THAT'S WHY IT'S AN IMPORTANT THIS DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY BUILDING THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE COST GO UP THE DEVELOPER BEARS THE RISK.

>> THAT'S A PERFECT SEGUE. THAT IS MY CONCERN YOU SAID THE ROAD WILL BE BE UPFRONT BEFORE THEY CAN BE PULLED.

IF I GOT THAT WRONG YOU'LL TELL ME, DOES THAT MEAN THE ROAD FROM THE VERY NORTH AND THAT STATE ROUTE 16 OF 2209 WILL BE CONNECTED TO PACETTI ROAD BEFORE WE SEE THE FIRST VERTICAL

CONSTRUCTION? >> WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT, ART IF YOU WANT TO COME APPEAR AND TALK AS WELL OR BRAD OR WILL. THE IDEA, I'M SORRY -- SO I CAN USE THIS POINTER. THE IDEA IS TO BUILD 2209 AT ADLER CREEK PARKWAY INTO THIS AREA OF ADLER CREEK BECAUSE AGAIN TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.

THE IDEA AFTER PERMITTING IN ALL THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL THEY BUILD THE ROAD DOWN TO THIS POINT BEFORE THEY CAN GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE FIRST UNIT.

THEN ALSO BEFORE THEY CAN GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE FIRST UNIT THEY WILL PROVIDE FINANCIAL SECURITY TO THE COUNTY SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT THIS ROAD IS GOING TO BE BUILT IN YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD IT. BECAUSE THE IDEA AGAIN A CASH FLOW BECAUSE THIS IS A 27 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR ROAD YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO GET SOME CASH GOING IN ORDER TO FINISH CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD BUT YOU WILL HAVE THE FINANCIAL SECURITY IN YOUR POCKET IF YOU WILL AS THE COUNTY SO THEY CAN FINISH CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD DOWN TO PACETTI ROAD IN AN EXPEDITED MANNER AND IF THEY DO NOT YOU CAN PULL THEIR BOND AND BUILD IT YOURSELVES OR THEIR BOND OR WHATEVER SECURITY THEY POST.

>> BUT WE WILL AND FACT HAVE RESIDENTS OF ADLER CREEK SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED [INAUDIBLE] FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME UNTIL THE LOOP ROAD IS FINALLY CONNECTED.

I SEE ONE OF THE WAIVERS REQUESTED IS TO ALLOW A 15 YEAR PHASE, COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE 15 YEARS TO GET THIS WERE

CONNECTED? >> THE IDEA.

>> GO AHEAD AND GET A LET MY EXPERT TALK SINCE HE'S THE

EXPERT IN ENGINEERING. >> USUALLY A GOOD IDEA.

>> BRAD DAVIS JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

THE DEVELOPER, ELLEN DID A REALLY NICE JOB TAKING US TO THE LITERAL PRAGMATIC INSTRUCTION TO GO FROM 2209 ADLER CREEK PARKWAY INTO THE FIRST PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR BEFORE IT'S ISSUED THE BOND FOR FINANCIAL SECURITY WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE WILL BE ISSUED TO THE COUNTY SO YOU ARE ASSURED IT'LL HAPPEN.

FROM THAT TIME GOING FORWARD WE NEED AT LEAST FIVE YEARS NOT 15 YEARS YOU JUST DESCRIBED, FIVE YEARS TO DESIGN, PERMIT AND CONSTRUCT THE REMAINDER OF THE ROAD TO GET TO PACETTI ROAD.

>> SO YOUR ESTIMATE BEFORE US TODAY HAVING BEEN SWORN IN THAT THE ROAD WILL BE COMPLETING FIVE YEARS AFTER APPROVAL?

>> AFTER CO OF THE FIRST OF ELEMENT.

>> NOT FIVE YEARS FROM TODAY, BASED ON THE TIMELINE THAT WE PROVIDED A MOMENT AGO THE FIRST CO IS ROUGHLY JUNE OF 2025, THAT

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FROM THAT DAY FIVE YEARS WE WILL COMMIT TO HAVING THE ROAD DESIGN PERMITTED AND CONSTRUCTED THE REMAINDER OF THE PARKWAY TO

PACETTI ROAD. >> THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, WE STILL WILL HAVE FIVE YEARS OF RESIDENCE OF ONE POINT OF

INGRESS AND EGRESS. >> CORRECT.

>> YES OR COLLECTOR ROADS, THE MERE COUNTY STANDARDS, YES OR.

>> OKAY I WILL JUST MAKE A FINAL COMMENT TO YOU THESE ARE DESIGNED TO GIVE US PASSIVITY, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS NECESSARILY HAZARDS DETAILS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SEE IN A POD,

THAT'S MY FINAL COMMENT. >> OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> BACK TO THE BOARD IF THERE ARE NO MORE COMMENTS IS THERE

MOTION? >> YES MR. TERMINAL MAKE A

MOTION. >> I MOVED TO DENY PUD 2020 1-21 ADLER CREEK PUD BASED UPON 10 FINDING IN FACT IS PROVIDED IN

THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO DENY COMMISSIONER

ARNOLD. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES.

>> I VOTE YES. >> I'M NOT PICKING UP COMMISSIONER WALDRON HAS ANYBODY HEARD HIM.

AT THE MOMENT THIS MOTION IS APPROVED 4 - 0 TO DENY AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY TO DECIDE HOW TO DEAL IF WE NEED TO RECONNECT WITH COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> AT THIS POINT THERE WERE FOUR COMMISSIONERS PRESENT FOR THE VOTE AND THE VOTE WAS 4 - 0 TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO DENY.

>> SO THAT'S APPROVED, THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

I APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE FOR ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK. I DID NOT WANT TO INTERRUPT

[13. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2022-04 Elkton Industrial Park (Transmittal).]

WHO IS PRESENTING ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK, TITLE 13 BUT AS TIME CERTAIN TO BEGIN NOW, BRAD, HUNTER, ARE YOU PRESENTING THIS YOURSELF? AS APPLICANT?

>> YES OR. >> DO YOU NEED ME TO DO X PER

SE. >> DOZERS NOT WANT SAY JUDICIAL.

>>ALL RIGHT GOOD MORNING I AM HERE TO PRESENT ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK AND WE WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.

I SHOWED THE SLIDE BEFORE IN THE PRIOR APPLICATION THAT I HAD HERITAGE DEVELOPING GROUP IS A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY I OWN AN APPLICANT IS HTG ELKTON AND ASIDE FROM GOING TO THE OTHER BULLET POINTS AND GOING TO MAKE MYSELF VULNERABLE ON TWO POINTS.

NUMBER WON THIS IS EMBARRASSING BUT I WAS JUST DIAGNOSED WITH TENDINITIS SO I HAVE A LOT RINGING IN MY EAR IF YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION AND I LOOK BACK LIKE I HEARD A DOG BARK I HEAR THAT WELL. IT'S VERY HARD TO HEAR MR. WALDRON I DON'T IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO TURN THAT UP.

SECONDLY AFTER I SAT DOWN AFTER THE LAST PRESENTATION ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS SAY YOU SOUND NERVOUS.

I AM NERVOUS, MY NERVES ARE FREIGHT AND I DON'T LIKE CONTROVERSY. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE IN THIS CROWD TO OBVIOUSLY SPEAK FOR AND AGAINST AND SOME THAT WILL OPPOSE ME ARE FRIENDS AND WEATHER HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM OR NOT, WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THIS COUNTY AND WERE ALL CITIZENS OF THE BEST COUNTY IN THE NATION BUT MY NERVES ARE A LITTLE FREIGHT.

IF I HAVE A LITTLE HESITATION OR FUMBLE WITH SOME WORDS THAT'S WHY. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MY FACE TO BE STANDING APPEAR WHEN I PRESENTED PROJECT BECAUSE MY NAME IS ON THIS PROJECT AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO HEAR RECTALLY FROM THE PERSON'S MOUTH. WHILE CATHERINE WOULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF PRESENTING YOU GET TO LISTEN TO ME THIS MORNING.

>> MY PROJECT TEAM CATHERINE WHITTINGTON WITH WHITTINGTON LAW GROUP, ROB MATTHEWS, THE MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP, KINLEY HORN IS ON THE TRAFFIC AND ALSO THE ECONOMIC REPORTING SIDE AND LG TO HIS ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT.

THE QUICK SUMMARY OF APPLICATION WERE SEEKING A LAND-USE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE TO INDUSTRIAL ON 92 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD 305 AND STATE

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IF IT DOES GET APPROVED TODAY WHEN IT COMES BACK WE WILL THEN ACCOMPANY THIS LAND-USE APPLICATION OF REZONING APPLICATION THAT WILL HAVE MORE SPECIFICITY TO IT ALL THE PRODUCE SPECIFIC IN THIS PRESENTATION THIS MORNING THIS PIECE OF LAND AMENDED LIES IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THIS INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 305 AND STATE ROAD 207.

IT IS ELKTON'S COMMERCIAL, IT IS THE ONLY DEVELOPABLE AREA IF YOU WILL OR DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY WITHIN ELKTON AND YOU CAN SEE THE USES IN THIS INTERSECTION WHICH ARE RURAL COMMERCIAL AND THE NEXT USE, ZOOMING OUT A LITTLE BIT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU WILL SEE THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHETHER PROPERTY BOUNDARIES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE YOU'LL SEE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WILL LOOK WITH INDUSTRIAL. ON THE ZONING SIDE WITH THE EXISTING NOT BEING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE YOU'LL SEE PART OF THE PROPERLY DOES LIE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL ROLE ZONING AREA.

YOU ALSO SEE AT THE INTERCHANGE WITH COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, COMMERCIAL RURAL, INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE AND RS THREE WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM THERE IS A LITTLE SLIVER IN THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND CORNER OF THAT MAP YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER SHADED YELLOW PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THAT TOO IS INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE ZONING MAP WILL LOOK LIKE SHOULD WE GET THIS APPROVED. CURRENTLY WE ARE A MAJOR ROAD WITH STATE ROAD 207 BUT THIS INTERSECTION AS MANY OF US KNOW IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR INTERSECTION, COUNTY ROAD 305 IS SLATED TO BECOME COUNTY ROAD 209 WHICH YOU ALSO JUST ON THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION. THIS MAP WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAPS FROM THE COUNTY SHOWS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WAS EITHER PURCHASED OR DEDICATED 42209 GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE 305 CORRIDOR. IN 2209 WILL CONTINUE SOUTH, 206 AND AS I UNDERSTAND GO SOUTH OF 206.

THIS IS A LITTLE MORE CLEAR AND IT ALSO SHOWS HER PROPERTY BOUNDARY AS IT RELATES TO THE FUTURE 2209.

WHERE STATE ROAD 207 FRANCE OR PROPERTY, IT IS A FOUR LANE DIVIDED PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL ROADWAY, WE HAVE A QUARTER-MILE OF FONTAGE ON A FOUR-LANE ROADWAY.

COUNTY ROAD 305 IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR AND IT SLATED TO BECOME FUTURE 2209 AS I JUST MENTIONED.

BOTH OF THESE ROADS ARE CLASSIFIED BY THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNCIL STRATEGIC REGIONAL POLICY PLANNING AS A TRANSPORTATION FACILITY OF REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE. IF I COULD SCOOT OVER TO THE OVERHEAD REAL QUICK I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS WERE QUICK. HERE YOU SEE THE ROADS THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS HAVING REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE.

AND YOU WILL SEE HERE COUNTY ROAD 207 WHICH IS NOW STATE ROAD 207 AND COUNTY ROAD 305, IT TALKS HERE ABOUT POLICY 28, POLICY 28, REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES ARE THOSE FACILITIES USED TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES LOCATED BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE OF THE REGION AND THEY PROVIDE AN INTERCONNECTED SYSTEM FOR THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE, GOODS AND SERVICES BETWEEN THE CITIES, COUNTIES AND THE STATES AND THE REGIONS.

POINT BEATING THESE ROADS AREN'T MEANT FOR TRAFFIC OF TRANSPORTATION A MAJESTIC AND MOVING OF PEOPLE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP RIGHT EXCEEDS ME TOP LEFT PICTURE USING AERIAL VIEW OF COUNTY ROAD 207 LOOKING NORTHEAST WITH THE PROPERTY THERE IN THE BACKGROUND.

AS I MENTIONED COUNTY ROAD, I KEEP SAYING COUNTY AND STATE ROAD 207 IS A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY.

THE BOTTOM RIGHT PICTURE SHOWS AGAIN 2209 INTERSECTING OF 305 BUT ALSO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS 3.8 MILES FROM INTERSTATE 95 AGAIN ON A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY.

IT'S IN PRIME POSITION FOR THIS INTIMATE USE.

WHEN I FIRST PUT THIS PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT IT WAS APPROACHED ABOUT DOING AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

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WHICH IS USUALLY A MORE INTENSE USE AND I DON'T TAKE LIGHTLY BILDING THINGS EITHER. THESE ARE STRUCTURES THAT WERE BUILT 100 YEARS AGO ARE STILL STANDING TODAY IN THOSE CITIES.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT AND I STUDY THIS AREA A LOT IN WHAT WAS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO ME ARE THE FIVE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS THE LANE FAMILY. AND THEY CALL THEIR DRIVEWAY OR ROAD IF YOU WILL LANE ROAD. WHICH IS PRETTY COOL.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE HOUSES ARE ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF MY PROPERTY AND THEN ON THE LOWER RIGHT THAT BLUE LINE BASICALLY DESIGNATES WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS SO YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF IT IS AN OLD FARM ROAD THAT NOT ONLY SERVES OUR PROPERTY BUT ALSO SERVES THE FARM ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHEAST, THERE IS A FARM DITCH SEPARATING US FROM LANE LANE WHICH IS THEIR DRIVEWAY SO IN OUR INITIAL SITE PLAN AND TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE LANE FAMILY. I ASKED THEM AND I AM FRIENDS WERE PRIOR TO THIS I HAD BEEN FRIENDS WITH ONE OF THE LANE FAMILY MEMBERS AND HAVE SINCE BEEN ABLE TO MEET THE MAJORITY@D COME BY AND SIT DOWN TO THEM PRIOR TO MAKING APPLICATION SO I COULD SHOW THEM WHAT I AM PROPOSING AND DISCUSS WITH THEM THEIR CONCERNS. BECAUSE AGAIN TO ME THAT IS THE MOST CRITICAL SENSITIVE ISSUE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.

SO WHAT I PROPOSE TO THEM WAS 100-FOOT STRIP OF LAND IF YOU WILL THE ACCESSES THE PARENT PARCEL OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE GREEN BAR AREA IS A 6-FOOT RESIDENTIAL LANDSCAPE BERM, A DIRT BERM THAT WAS GOING TO BE PLANTED WITH BUSHES OF THE SLOPED ENTRIES ON THE TOP TO HELP WITH SOUND AND SIGHT AND IN CITY WITH THE LANE FAMILY AND THE THEM EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS, THEY ASKED IF I COULD LOOK AT POTENTIALLY RELOCATING ONE OF THE STORMWATER PONDS CLOSER TO THEIR HOME AND ADDING FURTHER SEPARATION. IF YOU LOOK IN THE SCREENSHOT THAT I TOOK IT SAYS 5.4 ACRES TO BE RETAINED BY SELLER, THAT IS ALSO MY PROPERTY AT THE CORNER AND SHIFTS IN A DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP. SO AS I WAS LEAVING HER HOME THAT EVENING AND DRIVING TO LANE LANE LOOKING ACROSS MY PROPERTY I HONESTLY DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT I JUST PROPOSED TO THEM. IT WAS NOT ENOUGH BUFFER, THEIR FAMILY AS AN EXTREMELY LONG HISTORY IN THIS AREA AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS RESPECTED THEM ENOUGH.

SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW PLANNED ON AND PROPOSING, I TRANSFERRED ALMOST 2 ACRES OF THE CORNER PARCEL WHICH IS REALLY HIGH-VALUE TO THE PARENT PARCEL, IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THAT ALLOWS ME NOW TO HAVE A 30. WITHIN THAT BUFFER GOING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH WE HAVE THE ROADWAY WHICH IS SECONDARY INTEREST TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, WE STILL HAVE THE 6-FOOT TALL LANDSCAPE BERM WHICH AGAIN WILL BE PLANTED UP THE SLOPES WITH BUSHES AND GRASSES AND THEN ON THE TOP WILL HAVE A MIXTURE OF TREES TO FURTHER BUFFER ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

SOUTH OF THAT WE HAVE 100-FOOT WIDE POND, HUNDRED FEET IS IMPORTANT. IF IT GOES NEARER THAN THAT YOU DON'T GET TO REACH THE DEPTH THAT IS NECESSARY TO KEEP CLEANER WATER, CLEAR WATER AND ALOW THE VEGETATION.

IF YOU DO A 50-FOOT WIDE POND FOR INSTANCE YOU CAN END UP WITH CATTAILS AND ALGAE AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO LOOK AT.

I MADE SURE THAT WE HAD AND APPROPRIATE WITH TAB AN ATTRACTIVE BODY OF WATER AND SOUTH OF THAT WE ARE LEAVING THE FARM ROW IN PLACE, FARM ROAD IN PLACE, EXCUSE ME, THAT DOES SERVE THE FARM THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND IT'S AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER. AND I WILL COME BACK TO THIS REAL QUICK. I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I LEFT THE LANE FAMILY WAS SATISFIED, I WILL SAY AYE OVERSOLD THAT COMMENT AND I SAID THEY WERE RELATED, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WORD TO USE BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE MUCH MORE EXCITED IF NOTHING HAPPENED ON THIS PROPERTY AND IS CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDABLE BUT I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SAY THAT THEY WERE SATISFIED IN THE FACT THAT I DID LISTEN TO THEM AND ADDED AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER SO HERE IS THE ENTIRE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. I WANT TO STRESS THE UPPER LEFT

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IN THE POND IN THE NORTH PART MIGHT BE REWORKED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE BUFFER WILL NOT. OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO DO TWO BUILDINGS. WE HAVE THE LARGER BUILDING ON THE EASTERN EDGE WHICH IS GOING TO BE, FOR ABLE TO BUILD IT, SOMEWHERE AROUND 500,000, 550,000 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS SMALLER T DONATIONS SHOWN THERE. IN A SECOND BUILDING WHICH IS LABELED INDUSTRIAL BUILDING ONE WHICH WILL BE A SPECULATIVE BUILDING UNLESS WE FIND ANOTHER USE.

SO THE TWO BUILDINGS IN TOTAL WERE ASKING 1.25 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE AND IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE GOING TO LIMITED WHEN WE BRING THE ZONING FORWARD AS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE WITHIN INDUSTRIAL LAND USE YOU CAN DO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND THERE'S NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM THAT WE WOULD WANT TO GO THERE. SO ASIDE FROM THIS BEING A GREAT LOATION, ANOTHER GREAT BENEFIT OF THIS LOCATION IS THAT THE SUNSHINE BUS ALREADY HAS A ROUTE THAT GOES RIGHT PAST THE 305 IN THE 207 INTERCHANGE USING 207. THAT PROVIDES A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS OF ELKTON AS WELL AS RESIDENTS OF HASTINGS AND EVEN FURTHER EAST TO HAVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GO TO WORK AT A MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

ON TOP OF THAT REELS TO TRAILS SO IT'S ALSO VERY VALUABLE THAT SOMEBODY COULD RIDE THEIR BIKE TO WORK IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION.

SO THE CATALYST FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL PARK IS ACTUALLY AN EXISTING EMPLOYER HERE IN OUR COUNTY, I DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY SHOULD YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS BUT THEY ARE SLATED AS A COMPANY TO GO INTO THE LARGER BUILDING WHICH I WAS SHOWING THERE AS BUILDING NUMBER TWO, BEFORE I START TALKING ABOUT IT, I WILL TELL YOU I PLAN ON SELLING THE LAND TO INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER WHICH I WILL INTRODUCE YOU TO IN A SECOND AND STOUGHTON IS IN ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW WITH K HE TO AGREE ON A LEASE. THEY PLAN ON HAVING THAT LEASE EXECUTED BY MID-TO-LATE OCTOBER. THE IMPORTANT PART OF THAT TIMEFRAME IF THIS GETS TRANSMITTED IN A COME BACK TO THE BOARD I WILL NOTE DEFINITIVELY WHERE I WILL DEFINITIVELY TELL YOU IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE EMPLOYER AND THE USER OF THAT BUILDING. SO KEHE, THE MORE I GET TO KNOW ABOUT THIS COMPANY I LOVE THEM. AND YOU WILL SEE WHY, THE LARGEST ORGANIC FOOD DISTRIBUTOR IN THE UNITED STATES WITH OVER 10000 FRESH PRODUCTS THAT THEY DELIVER.

OVER 60000 SKUS SERVING OVER 30000 STORES.

THEY HAVE 16 DISTRIBUTION CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA AND THIS NEXT POINT IS KIND OF INTERESTING, THEY HAVE THREE WAREHOUSES IN THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES, MIAMI, ATLANTA AND ELKTON. THEIR LARGEST CUSTOMERS AND ELKTON ARE PUBLIX, SPROUTS AND SMALLER RETAILERS LIKE DIANE SAID NATIVE SON. KEEP IN MIND THEY ONLY DISTRIBUTE ORGANIC PRODUCE AND ORGANIC PRODUCTS.

THE COMPANY IS WHAT IS CALLED AN EMPLOYEE STOCK OWNERSHIP PROGRAM WHICH IS AN EMPLOYEE OWNED COMPANY, SEVERAL OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE ALSO HERE TODAY TO SPEAK. , BEFORE RESEARCHING KATIE I NEVER HEARD THIS, THEY ARE THE SECOND LARGEST CERTIFIED BEEF CORPORATION IN THE UNITED STATES AND A CERTIFIED BEEF CORPORATION IS A NONPROFIT WHICH RECOGNIZES FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES FOR EQUALLY PLACING IMPORTANCE ON 3P'S. PEOPLE, HELP ME OUT WITH US.

>> PLANET. PEOPLE, PLANET AND PROFIT.

IN THE WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION HAS TO BE EQUAL WITHIN THOSE AND IT'S NOT AN EASY CERTIFICATION TO GET AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE AS A BADGE IS ON ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES BUSINESS CARDS.

THEY CURRENTLY EXIST ON DEER PARK WHICH IS A HALF MILE, QUARTER MILE OFF OF INTERSTATE 95 AND 207 ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD THE ENTRANCE TO DEER PARK TO THE INDUSTRIAL CENTER IS ACROSS FROM CYPRESS LANE. THEY HAVE AN EXISTING FACILITY AND ELKTON BUT THEY PUT 70 BAND-AIDS ON THIS FACILITY BECAUSE THE GROWTH KEEPS EXPANDING THAT THEY ARE OUT OF ROOM AND THEY ARE OUT OF CAPACITY AND THEY HAVE BEEN SENDING SOME BUSINESS DOWN TO MIAMI AND SOME UP TO ATLANTA BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE CARE OF IT HERE

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MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE WITHIN A 30-MILE RADIUS.

KEHE HAS TRIED TO FIND OTHER PIECES OF LAND IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE MANY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE A LONG TENURE AT THIS LOCATION. THEY'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION IN OUR COUNTY. TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING BY THE MIDDLE OF 2024 THIS IS WHY I HAVE URGENCY ON THIS APPLICATION. IN ORDER TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING BY 2024 IT WOULD HAVE TO BREAK GROUND SOMETIME EARLY TO MID NEXT YEAR. BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T FOUND AN ALTERNATE SITE AND THEY HAVE TO BE IN A NEW BUILDING BY 24, THEIR ONLY OTHER OPTION RIGHT NOW THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERING IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF JACKSONVILLE.

EMPLOYEES FROM HASTINGS [INAUDIBLE] AND SAINT AUGUSTINE'S IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, MOST OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO DRIVE TO THE WEST SIDE OF JACKSONVILLE FOR EMPLOYMENT. THERE REALLY WORRIED AND THIS IS BEEN THERE A ONE SITE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THEY DID TRY TO FIND OTHERS BUT AGAIN THERE ARE NONE IN THIS COUNTY LARGE ENOUGH TO TAKE THIS ON. THEY CURRENTLY EMPLOY 300 EMPLOYEES LOCALLY WITH AN AVERAGE WAGE WHICH IS EXCEPTIONAL OF 55000 TO $75000 FOR THEIR MAIN ROLES WITHIN KEHE THEY STARTED $20 PER HOUR. THEY WILL INCREASE THE LOCAL EMPLOYMENT TO AROUND 450 EMPLOYEES BY 2030, THEY EXPECT THEIR REVENUE TO GROW BY 56% BY 2030, SIGNIFICANT.

AND SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NEAT AND BLENDS REALLY WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY, THEY LIKE HIRING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND TRAINING THEM THE WAY THAT THEY WANT THEM TO LEARN ABOUT THE BUSINESS. THEY WILL PAY FOR VARIOUS TRAINING IN VARIOUS CERTIFICATION INCLUDING CDL, LICENSURE AND AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW THAT HASTINGS TECHNICAL SCHOOL IS BEING WORKED ON HIS PLAN TO HAVE A CDL LICENSURE PROGRAM AS WELL. ALL THEY HAVE A FANTASTIC COMMITTEE WHICH IS CALLED KEHE CARES, 10% OF THEIR INCOME EACH YEAR GOES TO KEHE CARES, KEHE CARES GIVES BACK TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY WHERE THERE DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND OFFICES EXIST AND WHAT IS NEAT ABOUT THE WAY THEY GIVE UP MONEY TO THEIR EMPLOYEES THAT KEHE CARE, IF I'M AN EMPLOYEE AND I GO UP AND I WANT TO DONATE TO XYZ CHARITY, THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY WILL DONATE THAT MONEY TO ME AS IF I'M ENGAGED IN THE ORGANIZATION.

SO THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S PART OF THE CERTIFIED TITLE THEY WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE EMPLOYEES ARE SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TOP EMPLOYERS IN THE COUNTY.

THE OVERALL RANKING OF EMPLOYERS IS AT THE FAR LEFT COLUMN.

WHAT I DID I SEPARATED THE PRIVATE EMPLOYERS ON THE OVERALL OF THE VARIOUS RANKINGS. THE LOWER YELLOW BAR SHOWS KATIE'S CURRENT EMPLOYMENT OF 330 PEOPLE WHICH PUTS THEM AS A TENTH LARGEST PRIVATE EMPLOYER IN TH COUNTY.

IF THEY WERE TO GO UP TO 450 EMPLOYEES BY 2023 THEY WOULD THEN THE EIGHTH LARGEST EMPLOYER IN THIS COUNTY.

BEFORE I CONTINUE ON PAST KEHE. I WILL TELL YOU THEY ARE IN TOW OF ONE OF THE USERS RIGHT NOW. I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE THE COMPANY AND TALK ABOUT THEM. IT IS MY FIRM BELIEF THAT REGARDLESS OF KEHE OBLIGATION TO GO HERE OR NOT WERE DECISION TO GO HERE OR NOT THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED INDUSTRIAL PARK FOR OUR COUNTY. WE HAVE TO STOP BEING A BEDROOM COMMUNITY TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE GAINING APPOINTMENT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS IS IMPROVE.

AS I SAID EARLIER STONE INDUSTRIAL IS K HIS PREFERRED DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT ON THE SITE THERE AN AWARD-WINNING DEVELOPER, THE CEO IS ACTUALLY HERE TODAY SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS DIRECTED TOWARDS HIM. THEY WILL BE PURCHASING THE LAND FROM ME AT LEAST FOR K HE'S BUILDING THROUGH PSEUDO- JOINT VENTURE WITH KEHE AND WAS REALLY EXCITING, THIS IS K HIS REQUIREMENT THAT THE BUILDING HAS TO BE BUILT TO LEED CERTIFICATION. LEED CERTIFICATION IS LEADERSHIP, ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, IT IS A DIFFICULT CERTIFICATION TO GET BECAUSE OF ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE BUT IT IS THE BEST WAY TO BUILD.

IT'S THE MOST ENERGY EFFICIENT AND THE MOST SMALLEST CARBON FOOTPRINT THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE. THAT IS A HUGE COMMITMENT.

SO A SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION, 92 ACRES AT 305 AND 207 ROUGHLY 3.8 MILES OFF 95, WERE PROPOSING LAND-USE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO INDUSTRIAL. UP TO 1.25 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE USE WITH OFFICE SPACE AND OTHER ACCESSORIES. I FAILED TO MENTION WHEN I

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I MENTIONED BEFORE 300 FEET, TAKING OFF THE ROADWAY SO THE ROADWAY ISN'T TRULY A BUFFER, IT'S 250 WIDE BUFFER, LAND DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES 30 FEET, THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER, THERE ARE NO PROTECTED WETLANDS, NO PROTECTED SPECIES, NO PROTECTED PLANT COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OTHER THAN A COUPLE OF COUNTRIES THERE ARE NO OTHER PLANTS OF THE PROPERTY.

NO HISTORICAL OR ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESOURCES FOUND, WE ARE PROPOSING TWO ACCESS POINTS ON 207, F DOT IS PUSHING BACK ON THAT AT THIS POINT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING JUST ONE BUT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO PROPOSE TO STILL AND ONE SECONDARY ENTRANCE ON COUNTY ROAD 305.

THIS WILL ALL BE DONE IN ONE TENURE DEVELOPMENT PHASE.

AS I MENTIONED THE BEGINNING WE HIRED KIMBERLY TO DO AN ECONOMIC MARKET STUDY AND FISCAL ANALYSIS.

THIS DOES NOT TAKE A HE INTO ACCOUNT, THIS IS IN THEORY THIS PROJECT TO BRING TRI-COUNTY. IT'S ESTIMATED THAT 14 NEW PERMANENT CAREER TYPE JOBS COULD BE CREATED WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT, IN ADDITION TO 895 INDIRECT AND INDUCED JOBS.

ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ASIDE FROM KEHE THEY BELIEVE HAS DEMAND FOR 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NEW WAREHOUSE SPACE, DRAMATIC.

AD VALOREM TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD INCREASE FROM $1280 PER YEAR TO ROUGHLY $1.5 MILLION PER YEAR OF WHICH OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WOULD BE FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

DICHOTOMOUS PREDICT THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE ROUGHLY $117,000, THAT'S A NET GAIN TO THE COUNTY OF $425,000. THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE ALMOST $360 MILLION IN GROSS COUNTY PRODUCT WHICH IS SIMILAR TO GDP BUT ON THE COUNTY SIDE. DURING THE PERIOD THAT THEY STUDIED WHICH IS A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

DURING THE SAME FIVE-YEAR SEGMENT THEY BELIEVE PERSONAL DISPOSABLE INCOME WILL INCREASE BY $328,600,000.

INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, THAT IS NOT COMMON WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COUNTY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOWER SEGMENT THAT IS NOTED SEGMENT 107 RUNS FROM COUNTY ROAD 3052 VERMONT HEIGHTS. EVEN WITH THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT THE INDUSTRIAL SITE WILL BRING WE WILL STILL BE LESS THAN 44% OF CAPACITY BECAUSE IT'S A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY FOR THIS TYPE OF USE. WATER IN SEWER CURRENTLY TERMINATES IN VERMONT HEIGHTS. THE DEVELOPER STOTAN WILL BRING WATER AND SEWER CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION AT 305 IN ORDER TO SERVE THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY WILL ALSO BE PICKED UP BY THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT THE COUNTY WILL SOON BE BUILDING. IT ALLOWS FOR ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION VIA THE SUNSHINE BUS AS WELL AS THE RIVER TO SEE THE BIKE PATH. IN AT LEAST ONE BUILDING WILL BE LEED CERTIFIED SHOULD KEHE BE THE ONE TO BUILD THEIR.

THE BUILDING WOULD ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW FOOD VERTICALLY WHICH I WILL SHOW IN A FEW MINUTES IT'S A GROWING TREND IN THIS COUNTRY TO GROW FOOD INDOORS BECAUSE THE NEAR SUSCEPTIBLE TO WHAT NATURE BRINGS.

ALSO ALLOW FOR PACKAGING AND NATURE DISTRIBUTED TO OUR LOCAL FARMERS WHICH I HAVE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THEM AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT IDEA SO THEY COULD PACKAGE THEIR OWN POTATOES OR CORN OR WHATEVER PRODUCE IT IS THAT THEY GROW AND BE ABLE TO INCREASE THEIR REVENUE THROUGH DOING SO. IT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY IN AN AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FUTURE 2209 ROADWAY.

INDUSTRIAL IS COMPATIBLE WITH FARMING IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE RURAL COMMERCIAL NODE OF ELKTON.

BRINGING INDUSTRIAL IS COMPATIBLE.

IT DIVERSIFIES THE COUNTY'S TAX BASE.

WILL HAVE 4.8 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE IN THIS COUNTY AND IF I SCOOP BACK ONE MORE TIME TO THE OVERHEAD, LET ME SHOW YOU ONE THING. I'M GLAD YOU CAN ZOOM IN.

THIS PART IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS THE DISTRIBUTION OF HER LEVY TAXES BY PROPERTY TYPE.

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A RELEASE IS HARD TO SEE BUT WHAT I PUT IN THE BOX THERE IS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL INSTITUTIONAL, AGRICULTURAL AND OTHER. I'M TAKING OTHER RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS OUT OF IT. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS ROUGHLY 11.1% OF TAXES FROM NONRESIDENTIAL USES.

INDUSTRIAL SPECIFICALLY IS 1.5% OF HER TAXES BECAUSE WE HAVE ALMOST NO INDUSTRIAL HERE. I CERTAINLY AM NOT A PROPONENT OF TRYING TO BE EVERYTHING THAT JACKSONVILLE IS.

WE ARE THE BEST COUNTY IN THE STATE AND IN THE COUNTRY BUT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A NEIGHBORING CITY, 26.9% OF THEIR AD VALOEM TAXES COME FROM NONRESIDENTIAL, THERE INDUSTRIAL IS 8% VERSUS 1.5%, WE ARE UNBALANCED AS A COUNTY AS WE ALL KNOW BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO BE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY DRIVING NORTH IN THE MORNING AND SOUTH IN THE EVENING.

COMPLIMENTS FIRST COAST TECHNICAL COLLEGE IN THEIR EXPANSION INTO HASTINGS. STAFF REPORT COMMENTS TAKEN WHEN WE SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS THAT DIRECTLY ACCESS ROADWAY SEGMENTS ALL HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

ON THE WATER AND SANITARY SUICIDE THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY, HOWEVER, DISTRIBUTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE NEEDED WHICH IS STOTAN BRINGING WATER AND SEWER TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WITHIN THE RURAL CIVIL CULTURE AND AGRICULTURE INTENSIVE LAND USES YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD WAREHOUSES OF THIS MAGNITUDE IN OTHER COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES SO LONG THEY FALL UNDER AGRIBUSINESS. AGRIBUSINESS IS DEFINED AS OFF PROBATION WITH ACTIVE FIRM ACTIVITIES, EQUESTRIAN ACTIVITIES, PASTURELAND, TIMBER PRODUCTION, AND SOD PRODUCTION AND MAY INCLUDE, I'M GOING TO SKIP TO THE SECOND BULLET IT MAY INCLUDE STORAGE, COLD STORAGE WAREHOUSE AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES AND BUILDINGS THAT HOUSE AND TRANSPORT NATURALLY GROWN CROPS AND PROCESS FROM NATURALLY GROWN CROPS.

KEHE DOES THAT. WE ARE ASKING FOR A LAND-USE CHANGE BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE BUILDING.

I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER PRODUCED TYPE OR NATURAL PRODUCT TYPE OF USER FOR THEM BUT WE ARE LIMITING IT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. WE WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE OTHER BUILDING AND FOR GRATUITY OF THE PROJECT.

WHILE THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE PROPERTY FROM AI TO I, THE AGRIBUSINESS USE IS DESCRIBED IN POLICY NOTED THERE INCLUDING WAREHOUSING PROCESSING STORAGE AND TRANSPORTATION USES.

THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL LAND USE, THIS IS FROM OUR PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE DESCRIBED AGRIBUSINESS OPERATIONS.

IN THE INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE WILL ALLOW FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES BUT WE WILL BE LIMITING TO IW WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, EXCUSE ME.

THE IMMEDIATE AREA IS A MIXTURE OF RURAL COMMERCIAL WHICH PRIMARILY SERVE THE FARMING COMMUNITY.

THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT MAY OCCUR AND WILL OCCUR IN MY OPINION IN THE AREA OVER THE NEXT 20 - 30 YEARS ESPECIALLY WITH THE EXTENSION OF COUNTY ROAD 209 USING THE 305 CORRIDOR.

STAFF REVIEWED THE BENEFITS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SUPPLYING JOBS AND TAX REVENUES TO THE COUNTY WITH THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, STAFF FOUND THEIR EXISTING INDUSTRIAL LIKE BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE ELKTON H HUB. SUCH USES DO NOT APPEAR CONSISTENT WITH THE FARMING ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS AND AGRIBUSINESS OPERATIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN AI.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IN ALL SAY THIS IS MY OPINION BUT ON FARMING IF YOU WILL IT IS IN INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY.

PUTTING INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO AN INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY IS FITTING.

IF I PUT ON THE HOMEBUILDER HAT AND TRIED TO PROPOSE 500 HOMES, THAT IS DIFFERENT BUT THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE.

SO THE FUTURE OF FARMS, AGAIN I SHOW THEM OUT.

, HOW IT RELATES TO 2209 INTERSECTING WITH 207 AND 206 AND I DID STOP IT THERE. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE BECAUSE OF HOW SCALED-BACK THIS IS BUT A PURPLE AREA DESIGNATING WHERE ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK IS PROPOSED.

MY PROPERTY IS NO LONGER FIRM, I AM NOT PLANTING IT WE DID NOT PLANTED THE SEASON AND I'M NOT GOING TO PLAINTIFF.

MY FARM IS NOW A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS COVER GROUND ON IT. THE FARMS, THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO SOUTH OF ME. BOTH OF THOSE ARE SABA FARMS, THERE WAS ANOTHER FARM DOWN THERE THAT WAS CONVERTED AND AS

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POINT BEING THE SOUTH SIDE INTO A SEVEN IS NOT WHERE OUR TRUE FARMING DISTRICT IS ANYMORE. IN FACT THE FARM THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHEAST WASN'T EVEN PLANTED LAST YEAR END THERE WERE SEVERAL YEARS THAT MY PROPERTY WAS NOT PLANTED.

SPEAKING TO A COUPLE OF FARMERS, THEY TOLD ME THAT THE REASON THAT IS IN THIS CAME ALSO FROM THE GENTLEMAN THAT I BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM, IT'S TOO DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO CROSS 207 THEY HAVE CONCENTRATED THE FARMS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 207 AND AGAIN, HAVING THEIR PEOPLE CROSS ATTRACTORS IN WHATEVER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAVE HAS PROVEN TO DANGEROUS AND THAT IS THE REASON IT HASN'T BEEN PLANTED.

SEE, THE GRAY SHADED AREA WHICH THAT FORM THAT IS ADJACENT TO MY SOUTHEAST LIES WITHIN THAT. THAT IS 36000 ACRES OWNED BY REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST THAT HAS BOUGHT PROPERTY HERE OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YE YEARS.

HEADQUARTERED IN NEW YORK CITY. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY TO TURN INTO FARMS. THE YELLOW IS SHOWING MY PROPOSED FARMS. IT IS LIKELY SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THAT THAT AREA ESPECIALLY BETWEEN 95 AND 207 IS GOING TO SEEK DRASTIC CHANGES. THE FUTURE OF FARMING, I MENTION GROWING VERTICALLY, THERE IS A COMPANY CALLED PLENTY UNLIMITED WHICH DOES INDOOR VERTICAL FARMS, THEY DO NOT NEED THE SUN IT IS PESTICIDE FREE AND THEY CAN PRODUCE PRODUCE YEAR-ROUND, THEY JOINED WITH DRISCOLL STRAWBERRIES AND GROWING STRAWBERRIES YEAR-ROUND ON 120 ACRES IN RICHMOND VIRGINIA BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO GROW VERTICALLY.

IN JUST FROM THAT FARM THEY PRODUCED 4 MILLION POUNDS OF STRAWBERRIES, LEAFY GREENS AND TOMATOES HARVEST ANNUALLY.

THERE PROBABLY OF ARTICLES IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE THAT WILL SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS A GROWING TREND IN THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE YOU TAKE A LOT OF THE VULNERABILITY OF PLANTING OUT OF IT.

I SPOKE TO ONE FARMER WHO SAID CHRIS, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT FARMING YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING RIGHT AND STILL FAIL BECAUSE YOU RELY ON NATURE. THIS TAKES THE VULNERABILITY OUT OF IT AND. SHORTAGE OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE, I GOT THIS FROM HER COUNTY ECONOMIC GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT AND WAS SUPPORTED BY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. IT IS LITTLE HARD TO SEE ESPECIALLY THE BACK OF THE ROOM BUT THIS SITE OVER HERE SHOWS INQUIRIES FROM BUSINESSES DURING 2021 WHO HAVE REACHED OUT TO JACK'S USA WHO IS A PARTNER OF HER COUNTY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR THEY REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY OR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DIRECTLY WANTING TO MOVE THEIR BUSINESSES TO HER COUNTY AND PRODUCE JOBS. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE IS INDUSTRIAL. LAST YEAR THERE WERE ONLY FOUR OFFICES THAT WERE PROPOSED.% SOME OF THOSE USES, 500,000, 400,000 IN DOWN BELOW IN THE ACREAGE, 500 ACRES OF INDU INDUSTRIAL, NONE OF THEM CAN BE PLANTED HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR IT. NOW ON THE RIGHT IS THE INQUIRIES FOR THIS YEAR SO FAR. AGAIN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE. WITH ONLY THREE PEOPLE ASKING FOR OFFICE RIGHT NOW. SOME OF THOSE ARE TREMENDOUS USERS, HERE IS ONE WITH 1000000 - 2000000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACING DOWN HERE ANOTHER 100 - 250 ACRES THAT ARE NEEDED.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY FOR COMMERCE TO GROW IN HER COUNTY ESPECIALLY ON INDUSTRIAL. PRAY THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CHAMBER OF CON COMMERCE INTO A LETTER AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO READ FROM THE LETTER.

WHILE THERE ARE SEVERAL INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE PROJECT BEING PROPOSED THERE IS STILL A TREMENDOUS SHORTAGE OF SUPPLY, KINLEY ORIENTED THE STUDENT HAVE MILLION 2020 WENT EVENTUALLY TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE RECEIVES EVERYDAY REQUEST FOR INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE SPACE, MANY FROM A PARTNERSHIP ENTERPRISE FLORIDA. OTHERS ARE GENERATED FROM INDIVIDUALS CONTACTING THE COUNTY AND THE CHAMBER DIRECTLY.

WE WERE UNABLE TO RESPOND TO MOST OF THESE REQUESTS DUE TO LACK OF READILY AVAILABLE INVENTORY.

WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY INDUSTRY SUPPORTING AGRICULTURE.

QUALITY EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS AREA, AND THE COUNTY ARE NEEDED. FROM ISABELLE I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE PROPOSED ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK ON TUESDAY

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SO IN CONCLUSION I TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF FARMS AND FARMING AND I TALKED ABOUT THE SHORTAGE OF INDUSTRIAL SPACE, THIS IS A MAJOR OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GAIN EMPLOYMENT IN THIS COUNTY.

IF IT'S NOT APPROVED IT IS HUGE POTENTIAL LOSS.

IT HAS TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY.

IT IS IDEALLY LOCATED THE AMOUNT OF FOUR LANE HIGHWAY WITH PLENTY OF CAPACITY LESS THAN 4 MILES FROM 95.

IF WE DO WANT TO GROW BUSINESSES HERE AND YOU DO NOT BELIEVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS IDEALLY LOCATED AS THIS SHOULD BE AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHERE WE GOING TO BUILD IN THIS COUNTY?

THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS.

>> COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, PAUL, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NO, SIR, WAIT'LL AFTER PUBLIC,.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HELP PUBLIC, ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU FORM LINES ON EITHER ONE OF THE TWO PODIUM SO WE CAN MOVE FROM ONE PERSON TO THE NEXT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> FIVE BLACKBERRY LANE ST. JOHN'S. I DID ATTEND THE HEARING LAST MONTH AND LISTEN TO THIS PRESENTATION.

I DID READ THE APPLICATION FOR PCA WHICH IS THE SAME ONE THAT WE REVIEWED FOR THIS MEETING. AT THAT TIME I TOOK THAT TO BE THAT THIS WAS A SPECULATIVE APPLICATION, I THINK TODAY I WOULD CHARACTERIZE WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IS A SPECULATIVE APPLICATION. THERE IS GREAT POTENTIAL SAYS KINLEY HORN, THERE IS JOB CREATION SAYS KINLEY HORN, THERE IS JOB DEMAND SAYS KINLEY HORN. BUT WHAT WE HEARD AT THE PZA PATENTLY WAS HERE IS KEHE, 1405 JOBS, $1.5 MILLION IN AD VAL VALOREM, APPROVE IT OR LOSE IT. AND I FELT REALLY BAD FOR OUR PZA MEMBERS. SUDDENLY THE MONKEY WAS ON THEIR SHOULDERS, IF I WROTE TO DENY IN MY LOSING 1400 JOBS FOR THE COUNTY. I THINK TODAY WE STILL HAVE HEARD A SPECULATIVE PROPOSAL. MUCH OF MY PRESENTATION DOES CENTER AROUND HEE HEE BECAUSE USING IT OR LOSE IT GIVEN TO THE PZA. AND PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE NO KEHE, NO APPROVAL. THAT WAS MINE AT FIRST.

WE JUST HEARD THAT KEHE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD HERE WITH NO LAND-USE CHANGE, THEY SUPPORT AGRIBUSINESS PREWIRED WE HEAR THERE'S AN APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP THE SOUTH COUNTY PRESENTED A NUMBER OF FINDINGS FROM EXPERTS IN FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT THERE'S A GREAT NEED HERE, IT'S GOING TO DEVELOP THIS WAY A ANYWAY AND 20 - 30 YEARS, THIS IS JUST THE START OF A NATURAL PROCESS, I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

I DISAGREE WITH THAT. AND WERE NOT TALKING 1.25 MILLION SQUARE FEET, WE ARE TALKING 600,000 SQUARE FEET INITIALLY FROM KEHE GROWING TO 850.

SO WHY DO THEY WANT TO LAND-USE CHANGE? IT SPECULATIVE THEY WANT MORE THAN KEHE, BILLION INTO BUILDING FEET. AS WE HEARD OPENED THE AREA, I BETTER HURRY UP WITH 50 SECONDS, THERE'S ALSO NOT 1407 JOBS, THAT IS SPECULATIVE, KEHE WILL GROW FROM 350 - 450 THEY SAY AND AGAIN, APPROVE IT OR LOSE IT WAS AMAZING TO ME.

YES THE INCOME APPEARS TO BE GOOD FOR KEHE, THE REST IS SPECULATIVE. 1.5 MILLION AD VALOREM, THAT IS SPECULATIVE, HAVE A GUARANTEED BOND IN FACT FROM KEHE OR STOTAN OR FOR MR. SHE THAT GUARANTEE SHORTFALL, HE SEEN APPROVE THIS AND WE HAVE A MILLION AND A HALF, LET'S MAKE AND PUT HIS MONEY WHERE HIS MOUTH IS. A NEW UTILITY LINE, THE COMING N WILL BE SPENT IN OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENTS IS THAT LINE NEEDS TO BE SIZED TO SUPPORT ANY ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THIS PLANT AND THAT. THANK YOU.

>> TAKE YOU I APPRECIATE IT. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS

APPEAR FIRST, YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU, MARSH A CHANCE FOR 15 REDONDO AVENUE. I AM A LOCALLY BORN PRESERVATION CONSULTANT AND ARCHAEOLOGIST AND I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT

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ALL CULTURAL LANDSCAPE IS A FEDERAL PRESERVATION THE LANGUAGE WHICH PERFECTLY DESCRIBES HIS RURAL AREA.

THE AREA EXTENDING FROM ELKTON SOUTHWARD FOR 4 MILES INCLUDES A SETTLEMENT RANCH, THE COMMUNITY OF ARMSTRONG IN THE AREA KNOWN AS SPUDS WEST OF THE INTERSECTION IS THE SAINT AMBROSE CHURCH AND COMMUNITY, THE ENTIRE REGION BY FARMERS IN THE EARLY 1800S WHEN THEY ESTABLISH THEIR CHURCH AND CEMETERY. SOME OF THEIR DESCENDENTS ARE STILL IN THE AREA AND MANY LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

SPUDS IS A TURPENTINE COMMUNITY THAT WAS INHABITED BY BLACK WORKERS UNTIL AT LEAST THE 1940S AND THE EARLY POTATO CROPS WERE SHIPPED FROM THERE BY TRAIN, EVIDENCE OF HISTORIC ACTIVITIES ARE PRESENT. ALSO THE OLDEST EXISTING TACT FARM IS INS SPUDS THE SANCHEZ FARMSTEAD IS LISTED ON HISTORIC PLACES. ARMSTRONG, PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY IS A HISTORIC SAWMILL COMMUNITY ESTABLISHED AT LEAST 100 YEARS AGO, TODAY IS A THRIVING LIVELY BLACK COMMUNITY, RESIDENTS ARE PROUD OF THEIR COMMUNITY ENOUGH WORK TO KEEP ACTIVE AND INTACT. SEVERAL YEARS AGO CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

CERTAINLY IT IS ONLY COMMUNITY LIKE THIS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND ALSO PROBABLY FAR AND WIDE. WITHIN THE DESCRIBED AREA OF ABOUT 12 - 15 SQUARE MILES AGRICULTURAL CONTINUES TO DOMINATE IN THE REGION AND THERE ARE OVER 50 HISTORIC STRUCTURES, 50 HISTORIC STRUCTURES ALREADY RECORDED IN THE FLORIDA MASTER SITE FILE. EXCUSE ME, THERE ARE TWO HISTORIC CEMETERIES, SIX HISTORIC CHURCHES AND EVEN SOME OF THE ROADWAYS ARE HISTORIC. THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE CULTURAL LANDSCAPE INCLUDING NOISE, INCREASED WHEELER TRAFFIC, PROBABLE LIGHTS AT NIGHT, INCREASED DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE, I THINK IS GOING TO IT WILL RESULT IN OPERATION IN MNY AREAS OF THE U.S. LOCAL AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITIES ARE OVERTAKEN BY CONSTRUCTION OF GIANT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES. PLEASE PRESERVE OUR AGRICULTURAL ALONG 207 AND PROTECT THE HISTORIC COMMUNITIES IN THEIR INHABITANTS. VOTE NO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> YES, SIR. >> MARK ATKINS 733 LUCY'S BEACH.

THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE IMPACT OF THE PROJECT UNDER CREATION REQUIREMENT FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MEMO. THE ONLY MENTION IS THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMUTATION BY WORKERS ON THE TRAIL.

FLOCKING TO SAINT AUGUSTINE TRAIL REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENT AND RECREATIONAL FACILITY IN THIS COUNTY, THERE ARE AN AVERAGE OF 240 BICYCLE TRIPS PAST THIS SITE DAILY NOW IN THE TRAIL WILL BECOME EVEN MORE IMPORTANT AS A CONNECTION IS MADE TO SAINT AUGUSTINE AS PART OF THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER A SEALANT. THIS IS REALLY THE UPDATED PLAN FROM STOTAN SHOWING THE TWO ENTRANCES OF DECELERATION LANES JUST NORTH OF HERE IS A HAZARDOUS CROSSING OF THE TRAIL OVER 207. THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY MR. SHEA, MEETING WITH HIM HE INDICATED HIS INTENT TO PUT A GAS STATION THERE. WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS CREATE A HAZARDOUS CONFLICT WITH THE SAINT AUGUSTINE TRAIL WHICH ADJOINS AS PROPERTY. IF THE COMMISSIONERS APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMEDY THIS FAILURE TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT BY PLACING SOME CONDITIONS UPON YOUR APPROVAL. PENDING AFTER THE APPROVAL, THIS

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THE DEVELOPER OF THE SITE STOTAN INDUSTRIAL IN COMMUNICATION WITH US HAS INDICATED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO EITHER CONSTRUCT THAT OR PAY AFTER ALL TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RELOCATION OF THE TRAIL. OF COURSE IF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS WILL REQUIRE ACTIVE LOBBYING BY THE COUNTY AND FDOT AND OTHER STATE AGENCIES TO BRING IT TO FOR WISHING.

FAILING THE REROUTING OF THE TRAIL INSIGNIFICANT CONDITION SHOULD BE PLACED UPON THE TRAIL SUCH AS THE ENTRANCE THAT 18 WHEELERS AND OTHER MOTOR VEHICLES WOULD HAVE TO YIELD TO TRAIL USERS AND INSTALLATION OF SOME SORT OF AUTOMATIC, AUTOMATED SYSTEM TOWARD DRIVERS INCLUDING THE 18 WHEELERS WERE APPROACHING TRAIL USERS, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. ATKINS. >> THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS LESLIE BAKER, I LIVE AT 49 ELKTON FLORIDA DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING. I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT 305 AND 207. THAT IS THE WORST INTERSECTION AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS THERE, IT JUST HAPPENED LAST WEEK WHERE A CAR WENT UNDERNEATH THE SEMI.

THE SEMI WAS NOT COMING FROM 305 ON THE SOUTH SIDE IT WAS COMING FROM THE NORTH SIDE. WE HAVE A POST OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET THAT BRINGS IN SEMI'S EVERY DAY, WE HAVE A SEMI-TRAINING COURSE RIGHT ON 305 AROUND THE CORNER ACROSS THE STREET AND WE HAVE DUMP TRUCKS COMING AND GOING OUT OF THERE ALL THE TIME. WE WERE AT 305 AND 207 COMING TO THE MEETING AND THERE'S TRACTORS COMING FROM 305 THE SOUTHSIDE ACROSS 207 TO GET DOWN TO 305 TO GET TO SAINT AMBROSE TO GET WITH ATTACKING HOUSES ARE. IT'S EXTREMELY HEAVY TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC IS GETTING WORSE OUT THERE.

WE NEED TO HAVE A SILENCE AROUND THIS BUILDING WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE DEMEANED LIGHTS BETWEEN 10:00 P.M. AND 6:00 A.M.

I CAN SEE IT FROM MY BACKYARD NOW BECAUSE THE MAN ACROSS THE STREET THE BUILT THE SEAMEN FACTORY CAME IN FROM DOCTOR SHELTON'S ALL THE WAY TO 305 AND 207 IN SAINT AMBROSE AND NOW ALL THE TREES ARE GONE. I KNOW I HAVE A SEAMEN FACTORY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING IN JOBS, HE IS NOW CLOSED DOWN AND OUT IF THE BANK IT INDUSTRIAL MARK UP THAT IS WHERE THE GAS STATION IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO, ACROSS THE STREET IS THE UTILITIES BUILDING U.S. 14 AND ALSO ON THE CORNER ACROSS THE STREET AT 305 INTO 0 SEVEN. WE HAVE TO HAVE SAFETY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE ROAD.

I KNOW WE CAN'T STOP IT BUT THE BICYCLE TRACK, ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO STOP FOR THE BICYCLES WHEN THE LIGHTS COME ON I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU DO NOT WE CANNOT STOP A SEMI-GOING 65 MILES AN HOUR RIGHT THERE FOR SIX BICYCLES TO COME ACROSS IN.

WE NEED SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT BUT PLEASE GIVE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED THERE. I LIVED IN ELKTON AND MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER NAMED IN 1994. THANK YOU. I WANT TO CLOSE BY SEE SAYING

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THE PEOPLE SPEAKING AGAINST THIS HERE TODAY ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION.

DO THEY LIVE NEAR HERE? ARE THEY JUST OUT TO BECOME A MOB AGAINST THIS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT? DO THEY REALLY HAVE THE ABOUT HE HE WOULDTO FARM. HE OWNS IT BECAUSE HE OWNS FARMLAND ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. I'M THE 5TH GENERATION AND THERE ARE FARMS IN THE AREA IN THE THIRD, FOURTH GENERATION AND WE NEED OUR FARMLAND. WE'RE ALREADY FIGHTING A BUNCH OF TRAFFIC IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AND WE NEED TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN AG.

THIS COMPANY IS NOT GOING TO BENEFIT US. WE GROW, PACK, PACKAGE, SHIP AND SELL ALL OF OUR OWN PRODUCE. WE'RE SELLING TO THE PUBLIC TO WAL-MARTS, COSTCO AND SAMS. THEY HAVE COME HERE AND NONE OF THEM HAVE COME TO US. WHAT ARE WE GETTING OUT OF IT? THERE'S ALREADY SEMIS COMING OUT FROM OUR FARM AND ANOTHER REASON THEY WANT TO BUY THE FARMLAND, THERE'S NO WETLANDS. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CLEARED. THEY CAN BUY ONE CHUNK OF LAND AND GET FULL USE OUT OF IT. WE HAVE A LOT OF GENERATIONS COMING UP.

I GOT LITTLE KIDS AND OLDER KIDS COMING TO THE FARM. WE NEED TO KEEP OUR FARMS IN OUR GENERATIONS. AND I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM HAVING

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WE WANT TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THE FARM AND PEOPLE LOVE DRIVING THROUGH.

OUR BACK ROAD, ST. JOHNS COUNTY COPS, 13 A. WE HAVE THEM EVERY DAY.

NO RESPONSE FOR THE FARM EQUIPMENT AND OUR WORKERS. WE NEED TO KEEP EVERYTHING?

AG. I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU MR. SIKES.

>> YES, SIR. IT'S YOUR TURN. >> KARL B.

ST. AUGUSTINE. I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

I THINK THE APPLICANT MADE SOME GOOD POINTS REGARDING THE POSITIVE TAX INCOME THAT COMES FROM THE PROPERTY. IT IS LOCATED AT A PREDOMINANTLY LOCATED COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL AG-RELATED SECTION OF THE ROADS, 2209 IS COMING THROUGH. THIS COUNTY NEEDS A LOT MORE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND INCOME BASE. ONE OF THE PRONGS WE TALK A LOT IN THIS CHAMBER AND IN THIS COUNTY ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ONE OF THE PRONGS THAT KEEPS GETTING FORGOTTEN IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE NEED JOBS. I CAN BUILD RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL AND OTHER STUFF, THE STUFF THAT MAKES JOBS AVAILABLE AND BRINGS OPPORTUNITY INTO THE AREA IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL AND DISTRIBUTION. TIS CORRIDOR IS BUILT FOR THAT.

THIS INTERSECTION IS BEING BUILT FOR THAT. THE LOCATION OF IT IS PRIMARY FOR WHERE THE JOBS ARE BEING, ARE NEEDED AND WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM.

IT'S HARDER TO GET FROM THIS AREA TO THE NORTH PART OF THE COUNTY AND THIS IS THE KIND OF INCOME WE NEED. WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT KEEPS COMING UP EVERY DISCUSSION WE VERY CLOSE THE PROBLEM WE NEVER ADDRESSES WORKABLE JOBS AND INDUSTRIAL LIGHT COMMERCIAL.

THIS ISN'T HEAVY, THIS IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT'S GOING TO BE AGRICULTURE RELATED. EVEN IF GOES INTO A MORE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HOUSING OR DISTRIBUTION USE, IT IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. THE APPLICANT SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE COUNTY, WHERE ELSE ARE WE GOING TO PUT. SOMEONE CALLS IN AND SAYS I REALLY WANTED TO LOCATED IN THE AREA AND NEED 300,000 SPACE. THEY DON'T NEED IT IN 10 YEARS.

THEY NEED IT IN ONE. WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON THIS.

WE NEED TO GET THE TAX BASE AROUND A BALANCED REVENUE STREAM.

RESIDENTIAL IS COSTLY COMPARED TO WHAT IT BRINGS IN. INDUSTRIAL HAS A LOWER IMPACT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE AREA AND OTHER SERVICE SUPPORTS. SO WE MAKE MORE MONEY ON TAXING INDUSTRIAL USE THAN WE DO ON RESIDENTIAL USE. WE CLAMOR FOR IT.

SCREAM FOR IT. WHERE ARE WE PUTTING IT? THIS IS THE RIGHT AREA TO PUT THIS IN THIS CORRIDOR WHERE IT'S SLATED FOR COMMERCIAL USE. IT'S GOING TO BE IN AN INTERSECTION DESIGNED TO HANDLE THIS INDUSTRY. WHERE ELSE ARE WE GOING TO PUT

THIS? >> THANK YOU, SIR FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> I AM GENE AND I LIVED ON THE ROAD FOR 40 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN FARMING FOR ALL MY LIFE. I HIGHLY OPPOSE IT. THE MAIN THING IS THE TRAFFIC.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT ACCESS ON 207 GOING TO 95. GO THERE NOW ABOUT 7:30 IN THE MORNING. I AM THERE EVERY DAY. YOU GET MORE AND MORE PEOPLE MOVING AROUND YOU AND YOUR FUMEGATION OR SPRAYING. ONE PERSON COMPLAINS AND YOU GO TO THE STATE, IT'S A RIGMAROLL TO GO THROUGH. I LEAVE IT LIKE THAT.

THANK Y'ALL. >> THANK YOU MR. >> YES,

>> YES, MA'AM. WELCOME. HELLO.

MY NAME IS JACLYN WILLIS, 6010 ARMSTRONG ROAD. MY GRIEVANCE IN REFERENCE TO THIS IS THAT FIRST OF ALL, THIS AREA IS MOSTLY ELDERLY PEOPLE AND YOUNG PEOPLE USING HIGHWAY 207 TO COME INTO ST. AUGUSTINE AND ALL OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

AND THIS TRAVEL BY STUDENTS GOING BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL. IT'S ALREADY HECTIC ENOUGH DURING POTATO SEASON. WE CAN IMAGINE WHAT WAS TO HAPPEN IF YOU WAS TO BRING THIS HERE. WE ALSO HAVE THE RAILS AND TRAILS IN PLACE AND ALSO WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE NOTHING LIKE THIS IN OUR AREA BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT THEY CAN SELECT TO PUT HIS PLANT. THERE'S THE AREA OF CHARLIE T'S. THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE.

NOTHING. THERE'S NO RESIDENCES IN THAT AREA BUT ALONG 207 PATH IS

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THEY ARE GOING TO BE ON OUR BACK PORCH IN A MINUTE. AND ANOTHER THING IS THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS. WE NEED OUR FARMING THAT AREA HAS BEEN FARMING AREA FOR OVER 100 YEARS. IT'S BEEN THERE ALL OF MY LIFE AND I KNOW ALL OF MY PARENTS' LIFE AND ALSO WHAT IS THE GAIN? WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC VERSUS THE POTENTIAL? THERE WILL BE MANY LIVES TAKEN ON THAT ROAD AND WE HAD A YOUNG MAN THAT ALMOST TOOK HIS LIFE GOING UNDER A SEMI AND AT THE CORNER OF 305 AND 207, MY SISTER GOT IN A BAD ACCIDENT RIGHT THERE. SO JUST IMAGINE IF WE WAS TO BRING THIS TRAFFIC INTO THE AREA, IT WILL BE NO LONGER A RURAL AREA. IT WILL BE A HIGH INDUSTRIAL PARK AND LIKE HE IS SAY, HE'S STARTING OUT SMALL BUT IT'S ONLY THE BEGINNING.

JUST THE PEEP HOLE FOR SOMETHING GREATER. WHO IS BENEFITTING FROM IT? I THINK ARMSTRONG ELKTON SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE. THIS IS A HISTORICAL AREA ANYWAY. IT SHOULD BE LEFT TO THE PEOPLE. LEAVE MY PEOPLE ALONE.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. WHITE, WELCOME. >> YES, MY NAME IS GREG WHITE, 905 PEARL STREET, HISTORIC WEST AUGUSTINE. I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY AND I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK. SOME OF THE REASONS WHY.

FIRST OF ALL, THE FIGURE OF $20 AN HOUR FOR THE RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT IS PHENOMENAL AS OPPOSED TO MY YOUNG CNAS. IT CERTAINLY DON'T AMOUNT TO $20 AN HOUR.

I THINK IT BEHOOVE US TO MAKE SURE WE DEAL MORE WITH INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PAST COMMISSIONER MORRIS PLATFORM WAS TO BRING MORE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL INTO ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO GIVE US GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT. SOMEONE SPOKE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING A FEW MOMENTS AGO.

I CANNOT AFFORD A HOUSE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY UNFORTUNATELY BEING A CNA AND DOING SERVICE WORK.

IN MY OPINION, THE MORE INDUSTRIAL WE GET, THE MORE COMMERCIAL WE GET AND THE MORE CHANCES WE HAVE IN KEEPING THE RESIDENTS THAT GREW UP HERE OKAY OKAY THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. I AM A PROUD RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I SUPPORT THE FARMERS UNCONDITIONAL AND ALWAYS WILL BECAUSE WITHOUT THE FARMERS, WE WILL ALL BE DEAD. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WITHOUT GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT, EVENTUALLY WE WOULD DIE. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE STATS AS I STAND BEFORE YOU. 2000 CENSUS, 6.7 AFRICAN AMERICANS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

2010, 5.6. THE ONLY COUNTY IN 67 COUNTIES THAT LOST AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION SO MUCH SO THEY SUMMONED THE CRA TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR IN JACKSONVILLE TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHY. GET THIS NOW.

ALL RIGHT. 2020 CENSUS, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DROPPED AGAIN TO 4.9 %.

SO WE MUST ASK THE QUESTION, WHY ARE WE LOSING SO MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

IN MY OPINION, IT'S GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT AND IN MY OPINION, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL IS A

SOLUTION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. WYATT.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. WE WILL GO TO THE PODIUM AND THEN THE MIDDLE.

>> PAT HAMILTON, 201 OWENS AVENUE. SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THE PRECURSOR WAS THE TREE OF LIFE AND WE GREW UP WITH IRWIN CARASO.

WHEN HE GOT HIS BIG BREAK. HE BORROWED FROM MR. TULY AND BOUGHT A FLEET OF SEMI TRUCKS AND BOUGHT TWO WAREHOUSES. 35,000 AND 45,000 SQUARE FEET. IF YOU GO ACROSS ON 312 AND GO UP OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND LOOK DOWN TO YOUR RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THOSE BIG WAREHOUSES THAT ARE STILL THERE. NOW IF YOU, THE WAREHOUSES WITH 35,000 AND 45,000 SQUARE FEET

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IT'S HARD TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THE SIZE OF WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAREHOUSES, THEY'RE 30 YEARS OLD AND MERCURY VAPOR LIGHT.

IT'S NOT WHAT YOU LOOK FOR, FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE ENTRANCE OF YOUR COUNTY.

THIS PROJECT, HAD 90 SEMI TRUCKS AND RAN 24 HOURS A DAY. THIS IS 15 TIMES BIGGER THAN THAT. THOSE TRUCKS WILL RUN 24 HOURS A DAY NOW SOME KIDS ARE GOING TO COME DOWN GOING TO PEDRO MENENDEZ HIGH SCHOOL. SOME WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GO ACROSS THE ROAD. EVERY YEAR YOU WILL HAVE 600, 16 YEARS OLD.

EVERY YEAR ANOTHER 600 OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN DRIVING FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AND YOU'RE GOING TO MIX THOSE GUYS UP. THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST RESPONSIBLE WITH 15 TIMES THE NUMBER OF SEMITRUCKS THAT IRWIN HAD AND THEY'RE GOING TO RUN 24 HOURS A DAY.

IT'S NOT SAFE. AND THIS IS GIGANTIC. WILL COMPLETELY AFFECT THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY AND I DON'T GIVE IT -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VISION OF COUNTY.

WHETHER FARMING OR TURN THIS INTO AN INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AREA.

AND I THINK FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY IT'S CLEARLY WE SHOULD KEEP AGRICULTURE, IT'S ONE OF GREAT PARTS OF OUR COUNTY, IT'S GOING TO PUMP MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT AS TIME GOES BY.

THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS OF COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN.

INAPPROPRIATE AND INCOMPATIBLE AND I ASK YOU TO DENY IT. >> MR. HAMILTON, THANK YOU FOR

YOUR COMMENTS. >> YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS OF ROBERT NIMENS. I AM HERE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE BUILDING AND THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMING ON 207 AND I WILL TELL YOU SOME OF MY REASONS WHY.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. IT'S ABOUT THREE THINGS TO ME.

IT'S ABOUT THE JOB CREATIONS. IT'S ABOUT THE PEPPERMINT CREAM AT KEHE AND THE COMPASSION OF HOW CHRIS PUT THIS PIECE TOGETHER. I WORK AT DR. PEPPER GROUP AS A BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. EVERYBODY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY REMEMBERS WHEN COCA-COLA USED TO BE LOCATED NEAR THE APPLEBY'S. EVERYBODY REMEMBERS WHEN COCA-COLA LEFT HERE AND WENT TO DUVAL COUNTY ON THE WEST SIDE. HOW ALL THE EMPLOYEES HAD TO GO THERE AND HALF OF THEM DIDN'T MAKE IT. ANOTHER POINT IS IN PALACA. EVERYBODY REMEMBER THE PEPSI COLA PLANT WAS THERE AND LEFT TO GO TO JACKSONVILLE AND NOBODY WAS A HAPPY CAMPER WHEN THEY WERE PAYING THAT MONEY. THIS THING WITH KEHE, THE ARMSTRONG COMMUNITY WAS A FARMLAND COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF MIGRANT WORKERS THERE LIVED IN ARMSTRONG IN A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. YOU CAN'T BE A SUPPORT FARMER IN THAT AREA NOW WITH THE WAGES THEY WAY. I CAN REMEMBER SOME OF THE FARMERS IN THE AREA PAYING THE WORKERS TWO OR $3 AN HOUR. I CAN REMEMBER OFF 207 PEOPLE WENT TO FEDERAL PRISON FOR SIMPLY MANIPULATING THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA.

THEY TOOK THEIR MONEY AT THE END OF THE WEEK. THEY GAVE THEM A CREDIT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK AND TO ME, THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE FIRST COAST TECHNICAL HIGH SCHOOL IS BRINGING THE PROGRAM TO TAKE OUR KIDS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND TEACH THEM HOW TO DRIVE CDL TRAININGS AND WHATEVER TRAINING THEY NEED TO WORK AT THAT FACILITY ATA I DESCENT PAY. I KNOW THE CDL DRIVERS MAKE UP TO $100,000 AT KEHE.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED ALL OVER. I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN MOVING FORWARD.

I WANT TO THANK THE FARMERS FOR ALL THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE IN THE AREA.

ESPECIALLY ONES THAT SELL THE PUBLIX BECAUSE IF YOU GO IN THE PRODUCE SECTION IN PUBLIX, IT

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THIS IS OUR SENIORS IN WEST AUGUSTINE TO AN EVENT. EVERY EVENT WE THROW AT THIS SENIOR DAY AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, KEHE DONATES ALL THIS PRODUCT TO THEM.

YOU SEE THAT PEPPERMINT CREAM ON THE SIDE. FIRST THING THAT'S TAKEN.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

COMMENTS, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. >> MA'AM.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU.

HI, MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE HALL, I LIVE AT 5836 MIDDLETON ROAD IN ELKTON FLORIDA.

I AM A MBLOCK, TWO BLOCKS FROM POST OFFICE THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT CHANGING THIS TO AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. WE HAVE BEE FARMERS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD NEAR THE FARMS ON SAINT AMBROSE. IT WILL IMPACT THAT.

THE AGRICULTURAL SIDE OF LIVING IN THAT AREA, I HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN AND AROUND OTHER THAN FIVE YEARS IN AND AROUND THAT AREA SINCE I MOVED TO ST. AUGUSTINE IN 1980.

MOVING TO THE AREA WAS BECAUSE I WANTED THAT RURAL COMMUNITY. SIKES FARM.

THE EVENTS THEY PUT ON BESIDES THE FARMING THAT THEY DO. GIVES A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY WHO THEY ARE WHAT THEY WANT OUT OF THEIR LIFESTYLES AND NOT ONLY THAT THE SHELTON VETERINARY IS RIGHT THERE. HOW IS ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC AND IMPACT OF CHANGING EVERYTHING INDUSTRIAL GOING TO IMPACT THEIR BUSINESS, THEIR ANIMALS THEY HAVE THERE? AND NOT ONLY THAT, CHANGING THIS ZONING TO INDUSTRIAL IS ONLY GOING TO BRING IT FURTHER INTO OUR AREA AS WELL. OUR SIDE OF THE ROAD IS NOT GOING TO STAY AGRICULTURAL, IF THIS IS ALLOWED TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TAKE AWAY THE AGRICULTURE AND MOVE US OUT. WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO? IF THAT ALL BECOMES INDUSTRIAL INSTEAD OF FARMING AND RESIDENTIAL. IT'S GOING TO MOVE THE PEOPLE OUST AREA THAT REALLY WANT THAT TYPE OF FEEL AND NEED. THAT AGRICULTURAL FOR THE FARMERS. THIS IS THEIR WAY OF LIFE. THEY HAVE BEEN HERE ALL THEIR LIFE. MANY GENERATIONS AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT HERITAGE, THAT THE CORPORATION I ALSO HAVE A COUPLE PIECES OF PROPERTY IN RIVER DALE AND I CAN'T BUILD ON THEM BECAUSE MY SIDE OF WHERE THE LOTS ARE, ARE ON A PLOTTED ROAD. HERITAGE HAS BROUGHT UP THE PROPERTIES AND I HAVE NO WAY TO BUILD ON THAT WITHOUT BUILDING THE ROAD MYSELF.

I DON'T HAVE $100,000 TO BUILD A ROAD JUST TO GET TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO DO BUSINESS. WE WANT TO SAVE OUR WAY OF LIFE

AND OUR FARMERS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MA'AM FOR YOUR

COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE IT. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> HOPEFULLY THIS WILL WORK HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS CINDY WARD. I LIVE AT 246 WISTERIA ROAD. I AM HERE TO OPPOSE THE LAND CONVERTED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE. A VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE LAND USE SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. PRESERVING THIS PARCEL ALONG WITH OTHER RURAL AREAS IS IMPERATIVE IF WE WANT TO ENJOY A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. PRESERVING FARMLAND IS A PRINCIPAL OF SMART GROWTH.

THIS HELPS TO CONTRIBUTE TO CLEAN DRINKING WATER AND IMPROVES OUR COMMUNITY'S QUALITY OF LIFE. THIS PHOTOGRAPH IS AN EXAMPLE OF A NEW WAREHOUSE IN ARIZONA.

HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET. THE ONE THAT'S PROPOSED IN ELKTON WILL BE DOUBLE THAT SIZE.

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THERE'S ALSO A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.

THIS THE CREATE A DOMINO EFFECT PAVING THE WAY FOR A MORE INTENSE AREA LONG DESIGNATED AS RURAL. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT CHANGE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. PLEASE SUBMIT THOSE WHAT YOU PUT ON THE OVERHEAD TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MY NAME IS ANNE TAYLOR.

I LIVE AT 1365 STATE ROAD 206. I AM HERE TO READ A LETTER FROM MARGARET DOMMINEE.

SHE LIVED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND RECENTLY RELOCATED TO BE NEAR HER FAMILY BECAUSE OF HEALTH ISSUES AND SENT THIS LETTER AND ASKED ME TO READ IT AT THIS MEETING.

MY HAS AND I MOVED TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN 1989 IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A FACILITY TO PROCESS, PACKAGE AND DISTRIBUTE EGG PLANTS IN 1989. WE BOUGHT A PARCEL OF LAND SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 305 AND STATE ROAD 207. WHEN WE WERE APPLYING FOR A PERMIT TO BUILD THE FACILITY, THE QUESTION WAS RAISED AS TO WHETHER THE LAND HAD TO BE REZONED FROM AGRICULTURE TO LIGHT INDUSTRY. THE ISSUE WAS RESOLVED BY CONCLUDING THAT THE FACILITY COULD RETAIN ITS AGRICULTURAL ZONING BECAUSE PROCESSING, PACKAGING AND DISTRIBUTING AGRICULTURE PRODUCTS I E EGG PLANTS WAS AN APPROVED USAGE AND WAS PRACTICED BY THE FARMS IN THE AREA. OUR FACILITY WAS NAMED THE EGG PLANT PEOPLE. AND OUR BUSINESS NAME WAS DOMINIKS.

WE OPERATED THE PLANT FROM THE LATE 80S INTO THE EARLY 90'S. WE SOLD IT WHEN MY HUSBAND BECAME ILL AND COULD NO LONGER RUN IT. MOST OF THE LAND CAN BE USED FOR AGRICULTURE USES WITHOUT CHANGING THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND. THANK YOU FOR UTILIZING THIS INFORMATION AND IN DELIBERATIONS AS TO WHETHER TO DEVELOP A MILLION SQUARE FOOT OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE AT A SIMILAR LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE. I HOPE YOU WILL DENY THE APPLICATION. I WANT TO ADD MY SUPPORT TO MAGGIE'S COMMENTS.

I WILL QUOTE A CHILD, A CHILDREN'S BOOK GUIDE THAT SAID, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS DAY.

ALEXANDER. IT WAS A TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, VERY BAD DAY FOR THIS PROJECT.

>> THANK YOU MS. TAYLOR. >> YES, SIR. >> MY NAME IS ROSS LOUIS.

1650 CARTER ROAD. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT LIFE ITSELF IS ABOUT CHANGES.

NOTHING STAYS THE SAME, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I GREW UP HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE. I GREW UP ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THIS. I DON'T MEAN THIS IN TERMS OF A RACIAL STATEMENT BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT. ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN, BASICALLY MORE BLACK FOLKS LIVED ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. YOU GO OVER THERE NOW, IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS NOT HERE. OKAY.

AND FOLKS WAS CONTESTING WHETHER OR NOT THIS BUILDING IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD BE HERE.

SO LIFE IS ABOUT CHANGES. I HEARD A GUY RAISE THE NAME OF IRWIN CORACEO.

I'M THE GUY THAT IRWIN HIRED. I HAVE BEEN WITH KEHE FOR ALMOST 49 YEARS.

I HAVE SEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN OUR COMPANY. IRWIN WAS ALL ABOUT TURNING THE DOLLAR. HE WAS A GUY THAT MADE INVESTMENT.

I SEEN THE COMPANY MOVE FROM PLACE TO PLACE, PLACE TO PLACE BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T MOVE

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OKAY. I WANT TO SAY THIS HERE. AS I LOOK AT OUR FACILITY NOW IN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT I SEE COME THROUGH THERE, MOST OF THOSE FOLKS ARE BLACK FOLKS.

WE'RE NOT A RACIST COMPANY. IT PROBABLY HAS TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA.

OKAY. SO I'M SEEING VAST AMOUNT INDIVIDUALS WITH A JOB BECAUSE OF THE COMPANY, HERE'S MY CHALLENGE TO THE LEADERSHIP HERE.

I WANT YOU TO HEAR ME CAREFULLY. A JOB MEANS A GUY DON'T HAVE TO BREAK IN YOUR HOUSE AND STEAL.

OR MURDER YOU OR MURDER ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS BECAUSE HE DON'T HAVE A JOB.

YOU GIVE A GUY A JOB, AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HE FEEL GOOD ABOUT HIMSELF.

OKAY. SO ALL I'M SAYING IN A NUT SHELL IS THIS BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE A LOT OF POWER HERE TO MAKE A YEAH OR NEIGH DECISION. I'M SAYING I WANT YOU TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED THIS EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE IF THEY CAN'T WORK AND CONTINUE TO GROW AS PEOPLE MOVING TO OUR AREA, CRIME ONLY GOES UP AND WHO KNOWS IT MAY BE

ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR VERY

>> MR. BURNS. >> >> HI THERE, KETOBURNS, 6857.

I AM HERE AS THE PRESIDENT OF SACA IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I WILL ADMIT IT WAS HARD TO GET A SCALE OF WHAT THIS IS. ONE MILLION 250,000 SQUARE FEET.

I LOOKED AT THE APPRAISER TO FIND BUILDINGS OF THE SAME SIZE. OUR HOME DEPOT IS ABOUT 100,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 12 HOME DEPOTS.

THE MALL IS 800,000 SQUARE FEET VMENT THE AVENUES MALL SITS ON 58 ACRES.

THIS IS JUST OVER 90 ACRES. I NOTICED WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRY HERE.

THE INDUSTRIAL WE HAVE IS NORMALLY NOT ON MAJOR ROADS INTO TOWN.

YOU HAVE A SCENIC VIEW GOING THROUGH FARMLAND FROM THE WHOLE CENTER OF THE STATE WHERE THE TOURISTS TRAVEL AND A GIANT BUILDING LIKE THIS, WHICH WE KNOW INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T AGE WELL GENERALLY SPEAKING IS JUST INAPPROPRIATE. TAKE THE CURRENT LOCATION OFF DEER PARK LOCATION. THEY ARE SETBACK FROM 207 SO NOT TOWERING RIGHT OVER 207.

SPEAKING OF KEHE. THIS IS A GREAT COMPANY. THIS IS NOT A KEHE PROJECT.

THEY MAYBE THERE AND MAYBE NOT. THERE'S A LOT OF MAYBES. CHRIS WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE ON THE PROJECT TO STOTEN INDUSTRIAL. WE HOPE WE GET THE PROJECT. MAYBE THEY BUILD THE PROJECT AND MAYBE THEY LEASE IT OUT TO KEHE. THEY SHOULD BE HERE AND THIS IS SPECULATIVE.

ITS ABOUT CHANGING FARMLAND IN PERPETUITY. I'M SURE THE AGRICULTURAL COMPONENT AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID SPOKE IS THIS, IF THIS WERE ABOUT AGRICULTURE, THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT A CHANGE. IF THERE WAS AN AGRO BUSINESS, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHOUT THE CHANGING OF THE COMP PLAN. WE HEARD ABOUT THE PREVIOUS OWNER SELLING TO MR. SHEE. HE WAS VERY GENEROUS TO COME TO OUR OFFICE AND SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT. HE SPOKE ABOUT THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND THE DANGER OF THE TRUCKS CROSSING. IMAGINE THE SEMITRUCKS COMING OUT OF THERE.

THAT'S FAR MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE FARMING TRUCKS. PLEASE, PLEASE PROTECT AGRICULTURE IN OUR COUNTY. DON'T LET THIS BE THE SLIPPERY SLOPE.

WE HOPE YOU DENY THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> YES, SIR.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. JOSEPH RICTOR. I HAVE WORKED AT KEHE FOR 13

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THE TRAFFIC, IT'S ALREADY THERE. THE TRUCKS ALREADY DRIVE DOWN THIS SECTION OF ROAD.

AT THE NEW SPOT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEND SOME OF THEM DOWN TO 206 AND SPLIT IT UP A LITTLE.

I DON'T REALLY SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. THE FARMLAND HAS HARDLY BEEN USED FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. I DRIVE PAST IT EVERY DAY. NO ONE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS THAT STOOD THERE AND ONLY GOT TORN DOWN BECAUSE THIS PROJECT WAS PROPOSED. I THINK IT WOULD DO GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT COULD USE THE EXTRA CUSTOMER BASE. IT MIGHT ACTUALLY PICK UP.

ELKTON BASICALLY HAS BEEN A HELL HOLE. THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF SMALL BUSINESSES DOING A LITTLE STUFF BUT REALLY NOTHING IS GOING ON.

THERE'S NO MONEY COMING IN. HAVING THIS DOWN THERE WOULD HELP.

MY BROTHER RIDES THE BACK TRAIL TO HELP. WOULDN'T HAVE TO RIDE SO FAR.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND HOPE YOU VOTE YES. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

APPRECIATE THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I WILL CAROLYN FIELDS.

I LIVE IN ELKTON, FLORIDA. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. MY FATHER CONTRACTED FOR LARRY MASTER'S AT THE POTATO GRADER OVER ON THE EAST SIDE. ANYWAY, MY CONCERN ITSELF IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT VERSUS THE POTENTIAL FATALITIES. THAT'S VEHICLE ACCIDENTS.

THE AREA CONSISTS OF THE PERSONS I KNOW ARE SOMEWHAT EDUCATED AND SOME THAT ONLY HAS THE GED OR PERHAPS HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. WITH THIS INDUSTRIAL PARK, IF IT WILL FACT PROVIDE JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT ONLY HAS, FOR PEOPLE THAT ONLY HAVE A GED OR A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, THAT MAYBE SOMETHING POSITIVE. IF YOU DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, MY THING IS WILL YOU CONSIDER ALL SAFETY FEATURES OUT THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE RAILS AND TRAILS NOW.

YOU HAVE ADULTS ON THEIR BICYCLE. IF YOU DO IN FACT GO FORWARD WITH THIS, WOULD YOU CONSIDER ALL THE FEATURES, ALL THE SAFETY FEATURES AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW AND I THINK I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THEY'RE GOING TO CHECK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE OCCURRED OUT THERE.

305, INTERSECTION 305 AND 207 IS A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION THAT HAS IN FACT BEEN A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED AT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION ITSELF.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING. OR AFTERNOON ALREADY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

I APPRECIATE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO SPEAK ON IT PROPOSAL.

YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE. I AM SPEAKING IN AN UNOFFICIAL CAPACITY NOT AS COMMISSIONER FOR THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE AND THE REASON THIS CAME TO MY ATTENTION AT ALL IS BECAUSE I DO REGULARLY USE THAT BICYCLE PATH. AND I HAVE COME TO APPRECIATE OVER THE MANY YEARS THAT IT'S NOT ALL THAT MANY YEARS REALLY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT BECAUSE I'M OUT THERE SO OFTEN.

I HAVE REALLY COME TO APPRECIATE THE AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER AND THE CULTURE AND THE SEASONALITY OF THE CYCLES. BUT WHAT I, WHEN I SAW THIS PROPOSAL FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, A FRIEND OF MINE ACTUALLY PROVIDED ME WITH THE ELKTON HASTINGS HISTORIC FARMSTEAD SURVEY FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, WHICH WAS CONTRACTED IN 2008 AND COMPLETED IN 2009. AND IN THIS 190-PAGE REPORT WHICH WAS AN EXAMINATION.

A VERY THOROUGH EXAMINATION FOR DOZENS OF FARMSTEADS IN THE SOUTH WEST PART OF THE COUNTY TO BE INCLUDED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. IN PREPARING THE REPORT, I'M SORRY, THE CONSULTANTS DOVE DEEP INTO THE HISTORY OF THAT REGION, THE AGRICULTURAL HISTORY AND

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HASTINGS IS NAMED FOR HIS COUSIN WHO DEVELOPED AN EXPERIMENTAL FARM THAT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS AND PROBABLY LED TO A LOT OF THE OTHER EXPANSION OF AGRICULTURE. THIS HISTORY IS ALIVE.

THIS IS THE COOLEST PART. THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE GENERATION AFTER GENERATION FARMED THAT LAND. MANY LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND HAVE RELATIVES IN THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. THAT IS A HISTORY THAT IS STILL WITH US.

AND THAT CULTURE IS WITH US. THAT LEADS ME TO RECOGNIZING THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE. I TAKE THAT TO HEART. BUT THIS IS A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. AND THAT CARRIES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WEIGHT IN A TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL FOR BEING A PRECEDENT THAT CHANGES FOREVER THE CHARACTER OF THE COUNTY AND WOULD SEVER EFFECTIVELY THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR NATION'S OLDEST CITY AND ITS AGRICULTURAL

HISTORY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS CHRISTINE HUMPHREY, 5845 WIN FORD MASTER'S ROAD, ELKTON.

I WILL LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE OF SOME THINGS WE HAVE BEEN TREATED TO THIS MORNING.

THE FACT THAT THE E-MAIL THAT IS YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN RECEIVING IN REGARDS TO THIS ISSUE IS WRITTEN BY A BUNCH OF BOTS AND NOT REAL PEOPLE WHO FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THE ISSUE.

IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS, YOUR HOMES AND FAMILIES WILL BE AT RISK FOR BREAKING IN AND ROBBING YOU. AND ELKTON IS A HELL HOLE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND OF YOU WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING. I'M HERE FOR THE FARMERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS. THEIR LIVELY HOOD WILL NOT BE ENDANGERED BY THIS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. I AM HERE FOR THE GOOD OF OUR CITIZENS, THE CITIZENS OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, LOOK AT IT. IT'S LOOKING LIKE THE SPRAWL OF DUVAL.

WE DO NOT WANT THAT COMING HERE. WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE A SOLAR FARM PUT IN AND NOW AN INDUSTRIAL PLACE PUT IN TO TAKE MORE FARMLAND. I DON'T THINK SO.

ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE PAYS ATTENTION TO NEWS AND BY NEWS I MEAN REAL NEWS.

WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF A GLOBAL FOOD SHORTAGE. INDUSTRIAL, AND FARMING LAND MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE FOR THAT. ALSO NON-FARMERS ARE BUYING UP PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. BILL GATES OF NOT A FARMER.

HAS 269,000 ACRES HE HAS PURCHASED OF PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND.

THIS IS ALSO THE MAN THAT SUPPORTS DEPOPULATION OF THE WORLD.

SO I WILL LEAVE THAT TO YOUR IMAGINATION AND YOUR INTELLECT TO FIGURE OUT THE MOTIVE BEHIND THAT. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE PRESERVE FARMLAND AND OUR FARMING COMMUNITY FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE, THE FARMERS, THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTY, THE GOOD OF OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY. DON'T GIVE INTO THE PROJECTED OUTCOME OF WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO TO THIS COUNTRY BY TAKING A PART, TAKING AWAY OUR FARMLAND.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED LAND USE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS,

>> HI THERE. WELCOME. >> MY NAME IS MEMELINDA PEOPLES.

I LIVE AT 6231 ARMSTRONG ROAD, ELKTON. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARMSTRONG, THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF ARMSTRONG. IT'S AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JOB THAT BRINGING INTO ARMSTRONG AND I JUST ASK ONE OF YOUNG MEN BACK THERE, WHAT JOBS AND WHO IS GOING TO GET THE JOBS? MY THING IS WE LIVE IN A BLACK COMMUNITY. A HISTORICAL BLACK COMMUNITY.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S REGISTERED WITH TALLAHASSEE AS A HISTORICAL BLACK COMMUNITY.

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WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IN MONEY INTO THE COUNTY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO. IT'S A GREAT TOURIST AREA. AND WE ALREADY DONE BROUGHT A LOT OF THINGS INTO ARMSTRONG, ELKTON, THE BIKE TRAIL AND LOOKING TO BRING IN A LOT OF OTHER TOURISM. SOME OF THE CONGESTION THAT IS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY CAN COME OUT. PEOPLE GET OUT OF THE CITY AND WANT TO COME NICE, COOL COUNTRY, GOOD SMELLING AREA NICE FARM AREA. YOU KNOW YOU SAY, YOU WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. COME OUT INTO THE COUNTRY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT BACK TO THE JOB THING. IT WAS TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT BEING AFRAID OF BREAKING INTO YOUR HOUSES.

HOW MANY JOBS DOES KEHE BREAK IN FOR BLACK YOUNG MEN THAT HAVE BEEN MAYBE HAVE SMALL ISSUES WITH MAYBE WENT TO JAIL AND OTHER ISSUES? OKAY, WHEN YOU FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, WHAT DOES IT SAY THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO YOUR BACKGROUND? HOW MANY JOBS HAVE KEHE EMPLOYED WITH PEOPLES THAT HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. THANK GOD FOR THE FARMERS.

BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FARMERS, THOSE PEOPLE WOULD NOT GET A JOB.

THEY WOULD NOT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BREAKING INTO THE HOUSE. THEY WILL BREAK INTO THE HOUSE.

THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER A NON-PROFIT. WE HAVE A FOOD BANK.

KEHE IS NOT A AGENCY THAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. THEY USED TO DONATE FOOD TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES. THE LOCAL FOOD BANK. THEY DON'T DO IT ANYMORE.

THEY TAKE IT OUT TO OTHER, TO THE CORPORATE HEADQUARTER. WE DON'T SPEND OUR MONEY AT THE CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS. WE SPEND IT RIGHT HERE IN JOHNS COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.T I'M TALKING.- THAT IS YOUR THREE MINUTES.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THEM. >> LISA.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, I'M LISA MCGLEN AND RESIDE 703 PINE HURST PLACE.

AS THE VICE CHAIR AND TREASURER OF THE ST. JOHNS CIVIC ROUND TABLE.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS OUR OPPOSITION. THIS PROJECT IS OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY SET IN THE COMP PLAN. MULTIPLES OF 18 WHEELERS GOING IN AND OUT OF THE SPACE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

TWO, AS YOU HAVE HEARD FROM SPEAKERS, THIS AREA IS AN IMPORTANT HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL LANDSCAPE AS IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNTY IN NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT THE COUNTY HAS COMMISSIONED AS COMMISSIONER BLONDER POINTED OUT. OUR SHARE OF BADGES SAY HISTORIC ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE NEED TO HONOR OUR HISTORY NOT DESTROY IT.

THE ROUND TABLE SUPPORTS OUR FARMERS AND THANK THEM FOR PROVIDING OUR FOOD.

THE ROUND TABLE HAS BEEN ASKING ADVOCATING, SUGGESTING, AND MAYBE NOW MORE FORCEFULLY POINTING OUT, I'M TRYING TO BE POLITE AND NOT SAY DEMANDING WE NEED A LONG-TERM PLAN, A VISION FOR THE COUNTY. WE MUST NOT START DEVELOPING THE COUNTY IN A HODGEPODGE WITHOUT A MASTER PLAN. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO PAY FOR THE SHORT FALL IN THE TAX INCREASE. HOW CAN WE IN GOOD CONSCIOUS MOVE FORWARD WITH OPENING UP THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY TO DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A WELL THOUGHT-OUT INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN? I WOULD LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN SUBMIT THE ROUND TABLE'S 35 SUGGESTIONS FOR SMART GROWTH.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE OCTOBER WORKSHOP ON GROWTH. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES, SIR.

>> YES. HELLO AGAIN. CHARLES, MILL CREEK ESTATES SILO ROAD. THE ASPECT I LIKE TO BRING ABOUT IS I DO A LOT OF VERTICAL GROWING. THAT'S FINE. IT'S SPACE SAVEABLE.

IT'S EASY. YOU CAN PRODUCE A LOT OUT OF A SHORT TERM REUSE.

BUT ON MY PROPERTY I ALSO DO CONVENTIONAL GROWING. DIG IT INTO THE GROUND.

GET MY HANDS DIRTY WORKING ON IT. THIS WHOLE CONCEPT WITH THE NEW

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YOU CAN'T GROW CABBAGE INSIDE HANGING OUT OF A WALL. YOU CAN'T GROW POTATOES.

YOU CAN'T GROW CORN IN THE SENSE FOR THE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF CORN GROWN FOR THE DIFFERENT USES OF IT. ALSO THE CAPACITY OF POWER THAT A 40 FOOT CONEX IS ENORMOUS.

A 24 HOUR CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT. IF YOU'RE PUTTING THIS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE POTATO FIELD, IT'S ONE MILLION SQUARE FEET OUTSIDE IN A POTATO FIELD.

HOW MUCH POWER WILL THAT NEED IF IT TAKES SAY FIVE KILOWATTS A DAY TO RUN A 40 FEET CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT? I THOUGHT I WOULD SEE IT BEING SHOWN OF HOW MUCH POWER THAT WOULD TAKE TO PRODUCE THAT MUCH 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FOOT. BECAUSE IT IS.

IT'S A 24 HOUR ENVIRONMENT. IT HAS TO BE CONTROLLED. YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND PUT IT UP AND LET IT RUN. SURPRISINGLY. LOOKING AT THE OUTLINE AND WHERE IT WAS AT. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. THERE'S A COUPLE HUNDRED ACRES OF SOLAR PANELS. IS THAT SOLAR PANELS PUT THERE TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND PAY THEIR BILLS, NO? WE ARE GOING TO PUT A HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE, HIGHLY CONSUMING BUILDING ON ELECTRICAL POWER RIGHT NEXT TO IT SO IT CAN GET SUBSIDY FROM THE SOLAR PANELS.

THAT'S HOW I ALSO SEE IT. AND THE OTHER THING IS THE GENTLEMEN WHO PRESENTED FOR THIS EARLIER ALSO PRESENTED FOR THE QUADRANT. 300 HOTEL ROOMS PLUS 1.2 MILLION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL HOUSING OR SPACING IS UP THERE. WHY DON'T YOU TAKE AND MOVE THAT TO 207 AND 95? YOU GOT 300 HOUSES. YOU GOT YOUR 1.2 MILLION CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT RIGHT THERE. IT'S RIGHT THERE AT 207 AND 95.

HEY, IT'S A WIN-WIN. THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON

SENSE. THANKS Y'ALL. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR

>> YES, SIR. WELCOME. WELCOME.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STAN AKA JAY KAMAS.

A 30 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND WORKED 18 YEARS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE SIR. >> I HAVE AND RETIRED HAPPILY NOW.

I'M GO TO SHARE MY INSIGHT. >> FOR THE RECORD, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, WE NEED YOUR ADDRESS.

1315 COUNTY ROAD SOUTH. >> THANK YOU. SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

>> THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. >> ME TOO.

>> FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU FOLKS THAT OF COURSE AND YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS, BUT I WAITED THROUGH ALL THESE OTHER GREAT SPEAKERS TO REMIND YOU THAT WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT DOESN'T GO BACKWARDS.

AND IN MY SHORT 18 YEAR TIME FRAME, I SAW SEEMINGLY HUNDREDS OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT CHANGED THE FACE OF THIS COUNTY. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED AND NEVER CAME TO BE. THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS PURPORTD AND DESCRIBED AND PLANNED TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS PRIMARY THROUGH KEHE AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. ONCE YOU PULL THE TRIGGER IN THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT GOES INTO PLACE, IT WON'T BE REVERSED. YOU WON'T GAIN BACK ALL THE HISTORICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

OR THAT PORTION OF THE COUNTY. SO, REALLY SOMETHING THE SIZE OF THE AVENUES WITH THAT MUCH TRUCK TRAFFIC. IF PROPOSED KEHE THINGS GOES THROUGH.

IF IT DOESN'T, ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT MAY GO INTEREST THIS COMP PLAN AMENDED CHANGE IN PROPERTY WILL FOREVER CHANGE THAT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COUNTY.

AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE DRIVEN AROUND THE COUNTY AND NOTICED THAT IT'S NOT LIKE IT USED TO

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SO, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, I REMEMBER SEEING THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT MAP AND IT HAD ST.

JOHNS COUNTY AND THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS LISTED ON THE BORDER OF THAT MAP.

THOSE AMENDMENTS ARE NO LONGER ON THAT MAP. ON THE COMP PLAN MAP.

BECAUSE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THEM AND FOR THE URBAN SPRAWL THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY, IT'S BECAUSE OF THOSE CHANGES. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

PATIENCE WITH LISTENING TO ALL OF US. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR >> YES, SIR. WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING. JEFFREY ALLEN PARKER JUNIOR. 3303 COUNTY ROAD 305 ELKTON.

I AM A FOURTH GENERATION FARMER IN THE AREA. THE SHOWING TODAY FOR FARMERS IS KIND OF SMALL. WE'RE ALL BUSY PLANTING THIS TIME OF YEAR AND GETTING READY TO PLANT. I MEAN AS FAR AS US IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE FARMING COMMUNITY. IT'S A VERY SMALL SHRINKING COMMUNITY.

ONE DAY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY KIDS FARM HERE IF IT'S STILL HERE.

WE FACE ENOUGH PRESSURES AS IS. THE REAL START OF ALL OF IT KIND OF CAME WITH THE HOUSING MARKET BOOM. A LOT OF PRESSURES FROM REAL ESTATES COMING IN BUYING LARGE TRACTS OF LAND, PUTTING HOUSES NEXT TO IT. IT'S JUST ALSO WE FIGHT INFLATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE. INDUSTRIAL GROWTH WITHIN THE COUNTY AND HAVING THE BIG WAREHOUSES. PUTTING IT IN THE ELKTON AREA. MAY HAPPEN AND MAY NOT HAPPEN.

DOING THAT PUTS MORE ADDED PRESSURE FOR THE PEOPLE OR FOR LIKE US FOR PEOPLE WE RENT OUR FARM FROM. AND ARE THINKING, HEY, WE CAN GET THIS MUCH MONEY NOW FROM THEM BUYING IT VERSUS AND PUT UP ALL INDUSTRIAL AND IT'S JUST A LOT MORE ADDED PRESSURE ON US.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AGAINST IT, I'M JUST OR NOT AGAINST, I'M NOT AGAINST THE INDUSTRIAL EXPANSION. I'M JUST AGAINST IT IN OUR AREA BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE COMBAT ENOUGH PROBLEMS, TRAFFIC, I MEAN. WE HAVE BEEN FARMING HERE SINCE 1936. LAST YEAR I FINALLY HAD OUR FIRST TRACTOR ACCIDENT IN 70, 85 YEARS. IT'S JUST THE DIFFICULTIES ARE ENOUGH AS IS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK FOR COMING.

>> YES, SIR. >> MY NAME IS GEORGE G. 17 BRIDGE STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE.

I AM A THREE-TIME PAST PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH ANASTASIA COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND TWO TIME PAST CHAIRMAN OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CIVIC ROUND TABLE. I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR SMART GROWTH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR 26 YEARS STARTING IN THE NORTHWEST WHEN THE NORTHWEST WAS FARMLAND JUST LIKE ELKTON IS TODAY. INTERESTING POINT, 20 YEARS AGO ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAD A VISIONING. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THE RESULT OF OUR VISIONING PROCESS.

FOR TOO LONG YOUR PREDECESSORS HAVE IGNORED WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED AND ASKED FOR.

AND AS A CONSEQUENCE OUR VISIONING CAME TO NOTHING. CHRIS' PROJECT MAYBE A WORTHY PROJECT BUT IT ISN'T WORTHY FOR ELKTON. IT'S TIME THAT WE STOP ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO DICTATE THE VISION OF THE FUTURE FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO DENY THIS PROJECT AND HAVE HIM MOVE IT ELSEWHERE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SIR.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON HOW WELL YOU HANDLE YOURSELF DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC.

YOU'RE POLITE AND ENCOURAGING AND COMPLEMENTARY. THANK YOU FOR DOING A NICE JOB.

I'M BILL HAMILTON. 1690 A 1 A SAINT AUGUSTINE. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AGCULTURE MY WHOLE LIFE. I RUN SOUTHERN HORTICULTURE FOR THE LAST 43 YEARS.

I HAVE A DEGREE IN AGRICULTURE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. I SERVED ON THE OVERALL COMMITTEE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FORIDA AT THE EXTENSION OFFICE AT THE AGCENTER.

I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ALARM GLOBALLY ABOUT THE DISAPPEARANCE OF FARMLAND.

THE EARTH HAS LOST A THIRD OF ITS FARMLAND IN THE LAST 40 YEARS.

THE UNIVERSITY OF SHEFFIELD SAID THE LOST WAS CATASTROPHIC AND CLOSE TO BEING IRRETREATABLE.

THERE'S A UN REPORT OUT THIS YEAR. THE WORLD'S FARMS ARE STRETCHED TO A BREAKING POINT. THE NEW REPORT FROM THE UNITED NATIONS FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS WARNS. WHILE NOT A SOLE SOURCE OF OBSTACLES FACING GLOBAL AGRICULTURE CLIMATE CHANGE IS FURTHER STRESSING AGRICULTURAL SYSTEMS. THE CITRUS INDUSTRY MAGAZINE JULY 13, 2020, FARMLAND LOSSES IN FLORIDA.

A RECENT REPORT BY THE AMERICAN FARMLAND TRUST DESCRIBES FLORIDA AS ONE OF THE TOP 12 MOST THREATENED STATED IN THE COUNTRY TO POORLY PLANNED REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.

THE REPORT IS CALLED FARMS UNDER THREAT. THE STATE OF STATES.

FLORIDA CITRUS PRODUCTION IS THE LOWEST IN EIGHT SECONDS AND FINALLY FOOD INSECURITY A PUBLICATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA IN 2015 ONE IN 13 U.S. HOUSEHOLDS 31 MILLION ADULTS AND 6.4 MILLION CHILDREN HAVE LOW FOOD SECURITY. OVERALL FLORIDA IS RANKED 10TH IN FOOD INSECURITY AND EIGHTH IN CHILD FOOD INSECURITY. FINALLY, OUR OWN JEFF SMITH FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONER SEPTEMBER 11TH WROTE, THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES ARE EVEN MORE DIRE. IF WE DON'T KEEP FARMERS IN BUSINESS, AMERICA WILL BECOME MORE RELIANT ON FOREIGN COUNTRIES. FOOD SECURITY IS CRITICAL TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. WE HAVE A FARM COMMUNITY THAT IS LIKE THE GENTLEMEN SAID IS UNDER STRESS. ADDING A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF THAT COMMUNITY WOULD BE A DEATH NELL. IF MR. SHEE WANTS TO BUY FARMLAND.

GOOD. BE USEFUL. PLANT IT.

DON'T PUT ADDITIONAL BURDENS ON THE FARMING COMMUNITY. ONE OF FLORIDA'S SECOND BIGGEST ECONOMIC DRIVER OF FLORIDA'S ECONOMY. IT'S UNDER THREAT AND WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO PROTECT WHAT IS LEFT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> GOOD MORNING, I AM TODD ZANER.

1165 STONE HEDGE TRAIL LANE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVING OF SUCCESS IN THE COUNTY IS JOB GROWTH. CHRIS SHOWED A SLIDE THAT SHOWS 78 OF 85 COMPANIES THAT HAD INTEREST IN COMING TO THE COUNTY. 78 WERE INDUSTRIAL.

THEY ARE BRINGING THEIR BUSINESS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BE EMPLOYED.

ALONG WITH THAT, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER LOCATION THAN THIS ONE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR JOB GROWTH. NOT ONLY BASED ON THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, OF 4 LANE ROAD 207 WHICH WITHIN THREE MILES OF I-95, THIS ISN'T A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BUILD A 5 MILE ROAD OR INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE IT BECOME REAL. BUT ALSO THE PLANNING THAT THE COUNTY IS IN THE MIDST OF IN TERMS OF EXTENSION OF 2209 SOUTH TO THE ADJACENT ROADWAY AND THE $100 MILLION THAT WILL BE INVESTED IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN ONLY MILES UP THE ROAD.

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THE COUNTY WOULD BE PLANNING AND INVESTING THOSE KINDS OF DOLLARS IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS LAND REMAINING FARMLAND. I STAND HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT IT AS WELL. THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> MS. BADGER, WELCOME BACK. >> SHERRY BADGER.

2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. ONE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS AT THE LAST MEETING SAID I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT MARGARITAVILLE IN DANGEROUSLY WETLANDS. THEY ARE SHAPE SHIFTERS AND ASK FOR YOU SOMETHING. THEY ARE NOT BOUND BECAUSE IT'S NOT A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

HERE'S A TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND ANOTHER THING, THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT YOU TO SET A PRECEDENCE OF WHERE THEY LIVE. EXCUSE ME, THE HELL HOLE THEY LIVE IN. I SHOULD SAY. BECAUSE YOU KNOW OTHER PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE. I HAVE BEEN DONE BY THESE SHAPE SHIFTERS. I KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND A LOT LONGER THAN I HAVE.

BUT I HAVE SEEN -- NOT THAT MUCH LONGER. >> I HAVE SEEN CHANGES GOING ON EVEN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN. WAS A FARM.

THERE WAS A POTATO FARM THEN A SOD FARM. NOW I RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE COMMUNITY IT WAS A SOD FARM. IT'S GOING INTO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

SO WE KEEP GROWING. AND GROWING AND GROWING. WE HAVE GOT TO SLOW IT DOWN AS FAR AS TAKING OVER THE FARMLANDS. ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE.

SILVER LEAF. IT'S A FARM. IT STILL IS PARTIALLY A FARM.

IT'S A TREE FARM. SO WHY CAN'T WE CONTINUE WITH THE FARMING IN THIS COUNTY? WE HAVE GOT TO PROTECT THE FARMLANDS. WE CAN'T LET IT KEEP

DISAPPEARING. IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO OUR >>

>> HI. WELCOME. >>

>> MS. PATTON. THERE WE ARE. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR

MICROPHONE IS ON. >> JANET PATTON. 7265 A 1 A SOUTH.

AS YOU HAVE HEARD, THERE ARE MANY OF US WHO HAVE DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT LEAP FROGGING THE COUNTY'S OWN DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY LINE TO BUILD THIS MEGAPROJECT.

THIS 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSES ARE AMAZON LIKE BUILDINGS, AND THEY, THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS EMPLOY A LOT OF ROBOTS. THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY LINE IS THERE FOR A VERY GOOD REASON. TO PROTECT THE RICH LANDSCAPE OF CULTURAL HERITAGE AND

AGRICULTURE >> THE FAMILIES THAT MAKE UP THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR MU MULTIPLE GENERATIONS SOME GOING BACK TO COLONIAL TIMES. THEY CAME HERE AND NEVER LEFT. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO FLED PLANTATIONS. THEY ARE CATHOLICS WHO HAVE A VIBRANT PERISH IN ELKTON WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS IN A NORMAN ROCKWELL PAINTING. THEIR CHOWDER FEST IS NOT TO BE MISSED. THESE ARE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO IS HAVE KEPT ARMSTRONG IN TACT FOR 100 YEARS AND REPRESENT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE CORRIDOR THAT STARTS IN NORTH CAROLINA AND ENDS RIGHT HERE. THEY ARE HAVING A GULL GEECHY FESTIVAL IN DECEMBER.

AND IT SOUNDS FABULOUS AND WE ALL NEED TO SUPPORT IT. GOD BLESS THE FARMERS.

THE FARMERS KEPT OUR COUNTY AFLOAT WHEN THE BOTTOM FELL OUT OF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IN THE GREAT RECESSION. THEY HAVE MADE HASTINGS AND THE AREA THE POTATO AND CABBAGE CAPITOL OF FLORIDA. THESE FAMILIES MAKE UP THE BACKBONE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THIS UNIQUE HISTORIC CULTURAL AND AGRICULTURE LANDSCAPE. THESE ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLE WHO KEEP TO THEMSELVES AND NEVER ASK FOR MUCH. THEY NEED TO BE HEARD AND THEY DESERVE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE FUTURE OF THEIR HOMES AND THEIR LAND.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON JANE WEST. 660 SUN DOWN CIRCLE. >> JANE, EXCUSE ME.

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>> YES. MS. WEST. ON BEHALF OF PATRICK HAMILTON

HAS QUALIFIED FOR THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE FOR 31 PEOPLE. >> FOR THE AUDIENCE.

IF SOMEONE HAS OVER 20 SIGNATURES. PEOPLE CAN WAIVE THEIR TIME TO

GIVE THAT INDIVIDUAL 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. >> AND SHE PROVIDED A LIST OF 31

PEOPLE SHE'S REPRESENTING. IT'S 10 MINUTES NOT THREE. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING. AFTERNOON. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND I AM SURE A BIG SIGH OF RELIEVE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO 31 ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT. JANE WEST, 660 SUN DOWN CIRCLE.

SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. I AM THE POLICY DIRECTOR FOR 1,000 FRIENDS OF FLORIDA.

WE ARE THE STATE'S LEADING SMART GROWTH ADVOCACY REGION AND WORK THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO HELP YOUR COUNTRYIES WITH FISCALLY PRUDENT POLICY. I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING LAW.

LITIGATING CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CASES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

BACK IN FALL OF 2019. 1,000 FRIENDS WORKED WITH A VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS, MANY OF WHICH ARE HERE IN TWO GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOPS. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND DEAN, YOU MAY ROLL THE WORKSHOPS AND THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING. THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT IN THEIR DIVERSITY AND THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THEY ENTAILED. WE PRESENTED LAND USE FORECASTING WE DID IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND F DAX TO PROUD A SNAPSHOT OF LAND USE AND MODELLING. THE RESULTS WERE STAGGERING.

WE HAD GASPS FROM MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. IT RESULTED FROM UNCHECKED WORTHWHILE AND LAND CHANGES FROM AGAND CRIPPLING INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER QUALITY.

IT WASN'T ALL DOOM AND GLOOM. WE PROVIDE A SUSTAINABLE PATH FORWARD.

AN ALTERNATIVE MODEL OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADHERED TO AND EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANTLY SOMETIMES IN THE URBAN BOUNDARY REMAINED IN TACT.

THIS PROJECT IS NOT WITHIN THE URBAN BOUNDARY. THAT POSITION OF OURS, MAINTAINING THE URBAN BOUNDARY IS A POSITION WE ADVOCATE FOR IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE STATE. IT'S A CORNERSTONE, A PRINCIPLE CORNERSTONE OF SMART GROWTH.

I AM HERE TODAY TO REQUEST YOU DENY THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

THIS IS A QUASI LEGISLATIVE PROCEEDING, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'RE CHANGING POLICY NOT MERELY APPLYING IT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE I EQUATE IT TO CHANGING THE COUNTY'S CONSTITUTION. YOU NEED TO DO SO WITH VERY DELIBERATE CARE AND ADHERE TO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS WHICH REQUIRE THAT YOU BASE YOUR DECISION ON MEANINGFUL AND PREDICTABLE STANDARDS. THAT'S LACKING HERE. AND IMPORTANT TO TEASE OUT THE KEHE FROM CONSIDERATION. SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE A GREAT COMPANY.

IT'S NOT A MEANINGFUL AND STANDARD UPON WHICH YOU CAN TRANSMIT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. THEY CLAIM THIS WILL BE A BOOM FOR THE ECONOMY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT COMPANY BUT COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT FOR YOUR DISTRIBUTION.

IT IS COMPLETELY SILENT ON KEHE. THE APPLICANT IS NOT OBLIGATED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR LESSOR. FURTHERMORE, WHAT KEHE IS APPARENTLY SEEKING IS ALREADY AN ALLOWABLE USE UNDER AGRIBUSINESS. WHERE THE LAND USE CHANGE? BECAUSE AS THE APPLICANT STATED IN THEIR OPENING REMARKS. SIMPLY CAN'T GUARANTEE THEY HAVE DELIVER THE KEHE PACKAGE. ONCE YOU CHANGE THIS TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

ALL ALLOWABLE USES ARE PERMISSIBLE AS OF RIGHT. THEY WON'T NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT. AS OF RIGHT. THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE ALLOWABLE USES. NO GUARANTEE OF JOBS. NO GUARANTEE OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. NO SLICK ORGANIC FARMS AND VERTICAL GROWING.

ALL SOUNDS SUPER COOL BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PACKAGE. IT'S JUST NOT.

THE REAL RISK IS THE PROSPECT OF LOSING MORE AG LAND IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

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WHEN I WAS CHAIR OF THE ST. JOHNS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AGAND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE, WE RECOGNIZED THE ECONOMIC VALUE THAT AG BRINGS TO THE COUNTY. FURTHERMORE, AGRICULTURAL LAND USES CAUSE LESS STRAIN ON COUNTY OFFICIAL RESOURCES BECAUSE IT REQUIRES LESS INFRASTRUCTURE THAN MORE INTENSE LAND USES. SO, SPEAKING OF INFRASTRUCTURE, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PAY $6 MILLION TO EXTEND WATER AND SEWER LINES TO THE PROPERTY. THAT MAY SOUND LIKE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY, BUT, IT IS ACTUALLY A STEP TOWARDS UNPLANNED SPRAWL.

THE EXTENSION OF WATER AND SEWER LINES TO THE AREA WILL FACILITATE THE INTENSIFICATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA LEADING TO EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS TO THE COUNTY. THEIR HIGH COSTS WITH MAINTAINING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE UP FRONT DONATION, THIS GIFT, IS ACTUALLY LONG-TERM LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THE APPLICANT HAS CHARACTERIZED 207 AND 305 AS A FUTURE MAJOR INTERSECTION. BUT TIMING IS EVERYTHING. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S A SLEEPY LITTLE TRAFFIC JUNCTION, HIGHLY PRONED TO DANGEROUS FATALITIES BECAUSE OF EXISTS SEMIS THAT GO THROUGH IT. IT IS IN THE HEART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY RURAL FARMLAND.

IT'S QUIET UNLESS IT'S HARVEST TIME. IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THIS PATH, YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO GET SLOW DOWN BY THESE TRACTORS LESS A CABBAGE FALLS OFF.

THE TIMING OF THIS IS SIMPLY PREMATURE. IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE COUNTY WANTS TO CONSIDER 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW. THE COUNTY IS ALLOWED TO CONSIDER TIMING AS A FACTOR OF LAND USE CHANGES. THAT IS WHAT YOU BASED YOUR DECISION IN PART ON IN THE KING'S GRANT CASE WHEN YOU DENIED THAT APPLICATION AND YOU WON IN COURT. A NO VOTE TODAY IS A SMART GROWTH VOTE.

BUT I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GET A LITTLE GREEDY HERE AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR MORE.

A NUANCED APPROACH THAT WILL HELP ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED. INSTEAD OF JUST VOTING NO AND LEAVING THE APPLICANT AND OTHERS TO WONDER, NOW WHAT DO WE DO THE 207 CORRIDOR.

WHICH ARGUABLY BOAST THE MOST AGRICULTURAL LAND. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO PUTNAM COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. T THIS IS A VITAL CORRIDOR CONNECTING PALACA AND PUTNAM TO ST. JOHNS. LET'S GET IT RIGHT TO MAINTAIN THE RURAL INTEGRITY OF SPUDS AND HASTINGS. OUR ORGANIZATION CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT. WE ALREADY HAD THE TWO WORKSHOPS.

WE'RE WILLING TO PUT IN A LOT MORE ELBOW GREASE AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE NORTH FLORIDA PLANNING COUNCIL. THEY HAVE STAFF.

THEY ARE WILLING TO HELP. LET'S GET THIS RIGHT. A PLAN, A VISION WE ACTUALLY ADHERE TO FOR THE 207 CORRIDOR AND GIVE A PATH FORWARD FOR THE APPLICANT.

SOUNDS LIKE HE WANTS TO DO REALLY GREAT THINGS FOR THE COUNTY AND THE RESIDENTS WHO RELY ON AG IN IT COUNTY. SO THANK YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN

>> THANK JANE. >> THANK YOU.

. ED SLAVEN. JFK'S FAVORITE CONSERVATIVE POLITICIAN WAS LORD FALKLAND. WHEN IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO CHANGE.

IT'S NECESSARY NOT TO CHANGE. WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND PRIME FARMLAND.

I GREW UP AT SOUTH JERSEY WHERE WE HAD TOPSOIL THAT WENT DOWN A FOOT.

BEAUTIFUL TO THE SOIL THEY PLOPPED HOMES ON AND RUINED. IT'S A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY TO BE IMPORTING SO MUCH FOOD AND YOU WILL SEE IT IN PUBLIX EVERY TIME AND THIS WOULD JUST BE A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE AGAINST ADLER CREEK. GEORGE CARLIN, A COMEDIAN HAD A

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I HAVE LITIGATED CASES WITH WHISTLE BLOWERS AT INDUSTRIAL PARK.

I USED TO WORK ACROSS THE RIVER FROM LORS. LORS CLOSED AND WITHIN SIX MONTHS WE NOTICED THE VEGETATION AND THE MARSH ON THE RIVER THERE GROWING BACK.

AND IT TURNED OUT ACCORDING TO EPA'S DATA THEY WERE 50 TONS A YEAR OF VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS GOING INTO THE AIR POISONING PEOPLE. WE DON'T NEED AN INDUSTRIAL PARK IN ELKTON. THEY ALLOWED AN ASPHALT PLANT TO BE PUT ON STATE RD. 207.

THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME. I TALKED WITH THE LADY IN CHARGE WITH ZONING FOR THE COUNTY AND DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE POLLUTION FROM ASPHALT PLANT.

DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING AND DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING IT. I THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW.

INDUSTRIAL PARKS ARE POLLUTING PLACES. THIS WOULD TURN OUR COUNTY INTO JUST ANY TOWN U.S.A.. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE A HISTORIC PLACE AND TREASURE.

I AGREE WITH BARBARA BLONDER AND JANE WEST. MS. WILLIS ASKED.

WHO BENEFITS FROM ARE THIS? AND IS THIS BASED ON NEED OR GREED? GARY SNOD GRASS ALLOWED PEOPLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET ANSWERS AND ALSO SAID HE WOULD NEVER LET A SALESMAN SPEAK TO HIS BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT COMMONWEALTH OF CHICAGO.

YOU HAVE A SALESMAN MAKING A SALES PITCH AND THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRESENTATION BY COUNTY STAFF THE WAY WE USED TO HAVE PRIOR TO 2019. WHY ISN'T THERE A STAFF PERSON.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSON? WHERE THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION ON THESE CORPORATIONS? WHAT IS THEIR ANTITRUST RECORD? WHO OWNS THEM? WHO BENEFITS. MISS WILLIS WAS RIGHT.

WHO BENEFITS. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE ONE MORE.

YES, SIR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON NOW, COMMISSIONERS, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. MARIO BESADA. IT'S REFRESHING TO SEE SO MANY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY SPEAKING PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

YOU HEARD ME COME UP AND SPEAK AGAINST THE ADLER CREEK COMMUNITY.

I HAD MY OWN ISSUES AND ALSO TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT THAT SUPPORTED COMMUNITIES AND OUR FUTURE GROWTH. I WILL HAVE TO SAY THAT WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION FOR AND AGAINST. I AM WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORTING. YOU HEARD ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ECONOMIC ADVANTAGES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IN PLACE. WE HAVE A LAND OWNER WILLING TO MOVE THIS LAND AND DEVELOP IT SO I BELIEVE THAT THEY ALSO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE BIKE TRAIL IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION. IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT, DEFINITELY TAKE THAT TO CONSIDERATION. BUT AGAIN, I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH MORE TIME.

I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND HOPE YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES, MA'AM.

>> PLEASE. COME FORWARD. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

HI, MY NAME IS RHONDA FELLEDER. 4929 MURRAY STREET. A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF ARMSTRONG. AND MY CONCERN TODAY, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE MASSIVE INFLUX OF NEW RESIDENTS TO OUR COUNTY, AND I SEE HOW CROWDED IT IS NOW ON THE MAIN THINGS OF HIGHWAY 207, U.S. 1. EVEN THE BACK ROADS OF HOLMES BOULEVARD, THE MASSIVE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH KINGS STREET. I THINK UNTIL THE COUNTY STARTS TO BUILD OVERPASS IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE TRAILER TRUCKS COMING THROUGH.

WE HAVE HAD SO MANY ACCIDENTS ON COUNTY ROAD 207. I HAD A NEPHEW THAT WAS IN AN ACCIDENT. HE DIDN'T DIE. HE JUST PASSED A MONTH AGO NOW

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I ASK THAT WE PUT THIS ON HOLD FOR NOW. MAINLY BECAUSE IT IS SAFETY OF

ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

MS. KLATY. >> I NEVER REALIZED HOW BIG THE AUDITORIUM UNTIL B.J. KLATY IS

WALKING UP FROM THE BACK. WELCOME MS. KLATY. >> IT'S ONLY 1:30.

B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE. FIRST HAVE TO DO THIS.

LET ME THANK ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN ON THIS ISSUE. REALLY AND TRULY, I LOVE IT WHEREVER THIS AUDITORIUM, I MISSED SOMEBODY. IS FILLED UP.

AND JUST FYI, I WAS SPEAKING WITH SOME OF THE FARMERS, IT'S OUR FOOD.

MR. HANK WETSTONE IS THE CHOCOLATE MAN DOWNTOWN. IT'S INTERESTING.

I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD A FARM. HE TRIED TO PURCHASE THE SIKES FARMLAND A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

I WONDER WHY? IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE SAME THING.

QUALITY OF LIFE VERSUS THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. AND IT'S TIME TO VOTE NO.

AND IT'S ALSO TIME FOR LUNCH. FOOD, THE FARMERS, FOOD 11:00 A.M. TO 1:30 ALMOST BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON AND WE THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. KLATY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IN A MOMENT, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

I'M SEEING NONE. WE'RE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE I GET INTO THE REBUTTAL. IF IT'S OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO BRING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM KEHE UP. WOULD THAT BE WORTHWHILE OR GO

RIGHT INTO THE REBUTTAL? >> WELL THIS IS YOUR TIME. YOU CAN PRESENT WHATEVER YOU

WISH. JOHN, WOULD YOU LIKE? >> HE DID WANT TO SPEAK.

>> KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS YOUR TIME. YOU CAN SPEAK WHATEVER YOU WANT

TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I AM 18 ROMAN PALM COAST.

I WORK FOR KEHE AND WORK IN ELKTON AND DC. I WANTED TO ASK FOR THE APPROVAL. WE DO EMPLOY OVER 300 FOLKS THERE NOW.

WE'RE AN EMPLOYEE-OWNED COMPANY. THE EMPLOYEES OWN THE COMPANY. WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 20, 30 YEARS, I'M EXCITED. WE HAVE DONE AN EXHAUSTIVE SEARCH TO STAY IN THE COUNTY FOR GROWTH. OUR COMPANY CONTINUES TO GROW AND WE WANT TO ABSOLUTELY STAY IN THIS COUNTY. WE HAVE DONE AN EXHAUSTIVE SEARCH AND THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE TO FIND THAT FITS OUR GROWTH FOR THE NEXT 10, 15 YEARS.

WE PLAN TO GROW TO 450, 50 NEW JOBS AND YOU HEARD FROM OUR EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US 20, 30, 40, 50 YEARS AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GROW. FOR COMMUNITY AND CHRIS TALKED ABOUT KEHE CARES. I URGE ANYBODY TO CHECK THAT OUT.

WE TRY TO DO A LOT OF GOOD THING. WE SUPPORT THE LOCAL FOOD PANTRY AND LOCAL HOUSING PROJECTS AS WELL. JUST TRYING TO GIVE BACK THROUGH OUR EMPLOYEES TO THE COMMUNITY AND AGAIN LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, JOHN. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO START WITH THE LOW HANGING ORGANIC FRUIT REAL QUICK IF I CAN.

THE BIKE PATH. THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE HARD TO SEE.

I WILL TRY TO NAVIGATE IT WITH MY HAND. MR. OLSON AND HIS GROUP DID REACH OUT TO US ABOUT THE BICYCLE PATH COMING ACROSS THE FRONTAGE ON OUR PROPERTY, AND THE DANGER OF CROSSING DRIVEWAYS. I DO HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE A LITTLE STRUGGLE WITH THAT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO CROSS FOUR LANES OF ROADWAY, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CROSS A DRIVEWAY. BUT I'M NOT A CYCLIST.

MR. MCGIL AND SEVERAL EMPLOYEES USE THIS BIKE PATH A LOT AND SPOKE TO THE GROUP AND STOTEN

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THAT'S UP TO F DOT AND A COMMITMENT THAT STOTEN IS MAKING.

IT'S ON RECORD AND THEY HAVE IT IN WRITING AND THAT IS THE PLAN SUBJECT TO F DOT APPROVAL.

AND ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL MY PRESENTATION UP? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE

CLICKER IS >> I WILL SKIP THROUGH. I HAVE A FEW SLIDES I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW. I WILL REITERATE. I TRULY HATE THIS HAS BECOME CONTROVERSIAL. I TOO LIVE IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY.

I SHOP PROBABLY AT THE SAME GROCERY STORES AND OTHER STORES TH THAT A LOT OF THESE FOLKS DO. IT'S GREAT THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION IN THE COUNTY.

I'M COMMITTING TO DOING WHAT IS RIGHT AND IT'S MY OPINION THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

SO, PART OF WHERE THIS CROWD HAS COME, I WILL SAY CAME FROM MISLEADING INFORMATION THAT WAS INACCURATE. I DID BRING IT TO THE GROUP AND I ASKED THEM TO CHANGE THE MAP BECAUSE IT WAS INACCURATE. THIS IS THE ST. JOHNS CIVIC ROAD MAP AND TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY. PART OF THAT IS HUMOROUS BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY.

KINGS GRANT SHOWN HERE IS INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY YET THE SAME GROUP FOUGHT AGAINST IT.

WHAT IS INACCURATE IT SHOWS ZERO DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY WEST THAN VERMONT HEIGHTS.

THAT'S INACCURATE. THERE'S RURAL COMMERCIAL, MIXED USE.

A DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY IS GOING NOT AG INTENSIVE AND NOT RURAL SIEVE CULTURE.

THE OTHER INACCURATE INFORMATION WHICH IS PURE FEAR MONGERING, THEY SHOW SAINT AMBROSE CATHOLIC CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL PARK. IT'S THREE MILES THE WAY THE CROW FLIES TO WEST. IT'S INACCURATE AND EASY TO GET THE MASSES RILED UP.

AS FAR AS THE PRESERVING FARMS. WE ALREADY HAD AN ARCHAEOLOGIST GO OUT IS THERE TO DETERMINE THERE IS NO HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL OUT A PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER A FARM.

I BOUGHT IT IN MAY AND THE FARM IS GONE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

FOR THE FARMERS, I CAN CERTAINLY BE MOST SENSITIVE TO THEM. A LOT OF THEM GREW UP IN THIS AREA, THERE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CHANGE. MY OWN WIFE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. I HEAR IT IN MY OWN HOUSEHOLD. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT OF NOT WANTING CHANGE. CHANGE IS HARD AND IT IS ALL INEVITABLE.

THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST LIKE I DO TO BUY OR SELL PROPERTY.

IF THEY DON'T WANT THEIR FARMS TO GO AWAY, THEY DON'T NEED TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY.

FOR THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO KEEP AGRICULTURE. POOL YOUR MONEY TOGETHER AND BUY FARMS. THE GENTLEMEN I BOUGHT THE FARM FROM OWNS UN FARMS. THE LARGEST LANDOWNER OF FARMS IN ELKTON. ALL OF PRODUCE HE GROWS GOES OVERSEAS. THAT'S KIND OF AN ASIDE. AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED, INCREASED TRAFFIC, THE PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC ROUND TABLE MENTIONED 18 WHEELERS ARE INCOMPATIBLE IN THE AREA. WRONG. THEY ARE USED TO TRANSPORT PRODUCE TO GET TO DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSES AND PACKING FACILITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THEY ARE COMPLETELY COMPATIBLE AS IS INDUSTRIAL WITH AGRICULTURE.

TRAFFIC. I SHOWED HOW 207 WITH ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK BEING BUILT IS LESS THAN 44% CAPACITY. THERE ARE VERY FEW ROADS IN THE COUNTY THAT HARDLY NONE PROBABLY THAT CAN SAY THAT SAME STATEMENT. WE DO HAVE TRAFFIC ISSUES IN COUNTY. WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

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THE AVENUES IS ACTUALLY 1.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET IF YOU GO ON SIMON'S PROPERTY AND THAT'S ONE BUILDING. WE'RE PROPOSING TWO AND THE BIGGEST IS AROUND 600,000 FEET.

AGAIN, FEAR MONGERING GETS PEOPLE EXCITED. AS FAR AS KEHE, YOU HEARD FROM KEHE AND THE INTEREST IN BEING ON THE PROPERTY. IF KEHE SAYS WE DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF PROJECT. I SHOW THE DEMAND FOR INDUSTRIAL IN THIS COUNTY.

THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. IF KEHE WERE TO GO AWAY TOMORROW, THERE ARE OVER 70 OPPORTUNITIES JUST IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF OR YEAR AND THREE QUARTERS WHERE COMPANIES REACHED OUT FOR THE USE. I WILL CREATE JOBS ON THE PROPERTY. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE KEHE. I REALLY HOPE THIS WORKS OUT.

IF IT DOES NOT AND THERE HAVE BEEN COMPANIES REACHING OUT TO ME ABOUT BACK FILLING THEIR SHOES. THE LAST ONE MORE, WELL, I WILL JUST GO AHEAD AND READ IT.

IF YOU TYPE IN HOW MANY ACRES OF FARMS ARE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. UP WILL POP AN ARTICLE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA DATED NOVEMBER 13, 2019. IT SAYS ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. WE HAVE A DIVERSE CLIENTELE. WE HAVE OVER 33632 ACRES OF FARM. I BOUGHT A 92 ACRE FARM. IT'S ACTUALLY 101 ACRES BUT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF THE PARTS AND I DIDN'T END UP BUYING THAT PIECE.

THIS IS NOT THE END OF FARMS. YOU ALL AS THE BOARD GET TO DETERMINE WHICH FARMS IN THE FUTURE ARE ALLOWED TO CHANGE. THIS IS ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF WHAT WILL BE A MAJOR INTERSECTION, 3.8 MILES AWAY FROM 95. THIS IS THE RIGHT USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND AS FAR AS THE FUTURE OF FARMS, I DO OWN WHAT I CALL PARRISH FARMS. I BOUGHT IT FROM HIS DAUGHTER, 82 YEARS OLD AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO CROSS HERE. THESE ARE OLD AERIALS OF THAT PROPERTY.

SO THE ARROW THAT YOU SEE IS NOT POINTING TO ELKTON, IT'S POINTING TO THE PARRISH FARM.

THIS IS 1942 AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH WITH NO HOMES. THOSE ARE WETLAND AREAS THAT DON'T PRODUCE PINE. BECAUSE THIS WAS LARGELY A PINE FARMING AREA.

NOW YOU CAN START TO SEE, YOU CAN START TO SEE THIS IS 207. YOU CAN START TO SEE ROW CROP.

THIS IS 1960. AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE ROW CROP, YOU CAN ALL SEE I-95.

YOU DON'T SEE ANY HOUSES. THEY WERE ACTUALLY THERE WAS A FARM HOMESTEAD ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 207 WHERE THE PARRISHES LIVED. 95, STILL ROBUST.

VERMONT HEIGHTS STARTING TO TAKE PLACE. ROW CROP, CATTLE ALL OVER THE AREA. 1993, CYPRUS LAKES COMES INTO THE MIX.

WE BUILD A GOLF COURSE AND YOU DO NOT SEE ROW CROP IN THE AREA. AND TODAY.

POINT BEING, AS THE GENTLEMEN FROM KEHE SAID. CHANGE IS THE ONLY CONSTANT IN LIFE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE ALL THE FARMS IN THE AREA. THAT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS FOR ME TO SAY AND THEY ARE VERY PROTECTIVE TO OUR ECONOMY. BUT, JUST GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE RIGHT PIECES OF PROPERTY OVER TIME. OLD MOULTRIE USED TO GROW COWS. IRBELLA MENTIONED BY SOMEONE WHO LIVED THERE WAS A POTATO FARMLESS 15 YEARS AGO. GRAHAM LAKES WAS A POTATO FARMS. THE FARMS WITH THE FRONTAGE LIKE MY PIECE OF PROPERTY OR CLOSE TO INNIVE LIKE THIS, THIS IS INEVITABLE THE CHANGE IS GOING TO OCCUR. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE. THE FARMS WITH HIGHWAY FRONTAGE OR FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAYS ARE NOT GOING TO STAY FARMS. AND, AGAIN, I'M SENSITIVE TO FAT THAT PEOPLE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR GENERATIONS. I HEAR IT FROM THEM AS WELL. YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED ON A BUNCH OF LETTERS AND A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT HERE TODAY. MANY ARE FARMING FAMILIES FROM

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WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. THERE'S STILL TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FROM THE ELKTON COMMUNITY.

CATHERINE. SO MY ATTORNEY, CATHERINE WHITTINGTON HAS ONE OTHER THING

TO POINT OUT. >> CATHERINE WHITTINGTON. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT. COUPLE POINTS I WANT TO ADD. LIGHTING WAS BROUGHT UP, IMPERVIOUS RATIO, I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT IS DICTATED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE WON'T BE SEEKING VARIANCES OR WAIVERS TO THAT. NUMBER TWO, MS. WEST MENTIONED YOU SHOULD RUN THIS BY PUTNAM COUNTY AND NORTHWEST FLORIDA REGIONAL.

THAT WILL BE DONE. IT WILL BE TRANSMITTED TO THEM SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO TRANSMIT.

I WANT TO -- CHRIS HAS TALKED ABOUT AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT STATE ROAD 207 BEING ON THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL'S MAP OF TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES OF SIGNIFICANT REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE. BUT, WE DIDN'T GET THIS INTO THE PRESENTATION IN TIME. IT'S ALSO AN FDOT STRATEGIC, IT'S CALLED SIS, STRATEGIC INTERMODAL FACILITY. HERE'S THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT. I THINK THERE'S ONLY TWO IN THE WHOLE COUNTY. IT IS, WHAT THAT IS, SIS ROAD IS FLORIDA'S HIGH PRIORITY NETWORK OF TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES IMPORTANT TO THE STATE'S ECONOMIC MOBILITY.

THE SIS IS THE STATE'S HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR INVESTMENTS FOR IMPLEMENTING FLORIDA'S TRANSPORTATION PLAN. I WANT TO SAY THIS ROAD, STATE ROAD 207 WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT FOR EXACTLY THIS KIND OF TRANSPORTATION AND USE OF THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.

IT IS A LIMITED ACCESS DIVIDED FOUR LANE ROADWAY. EXACTLY DESIGNED FOR THIS.

AND THEN LASTLY, OF COURSE YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST TRANSMITTAL. IT DOESN'T SET ANY PRECEDENT.

AS YOU KNOW EVERY PROJECT IS REVIEWED CASE BY CASE, PROJECT BY PROJECT.

THERE IS NO PRESUMPTION OF APPROVAL. WE'RE ASKING YOU JUST TRANSMIT IT. LET'S SEE WHAT THE AGENCIES THINK AND EVERYBODY WILL HAVE

ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY. PAUL, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MOTIONS?

>> YES, SIR, BASICALLY I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY THANK YOU THAT SPOKE ON BOTH SIDES.

IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND CORDIAL. I DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT IT'S FAR OUT ON 207 WITH NO OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE COMING. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE IT BUILT IN THE HIGHEST POPULATION OF THE COUNTY, MUCH LESS HAVE PLANS OR FUNDS COMING TO BUILD IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY AT THIS TIME. YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO THINK LAST NIGHT WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THE COUNTY ACTUALLY BUILT A ROAD THAT WASN'T PAID FOR BY DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S FAR OFF. ABOUT AS LONG AS I CAN CONSIDER. COMMISSIONER DEAN YOU HAVE BEEN

HERE AS LONG AS I HAVE AND IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER WHEN, ISN'T IT? >> YEAH.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S LEAP FROGGING OUT. I WOULD THINK JUST TO BE CLOSER TO I-95 AND 207. HOWEVER, KEHE IS A GREAT COMPANY AND THEY WANT TO BE THERE, THEY CAN ABOUT THERE WITH THE PRESENT ZONING. AND LAND USE.

SPECULATIVE WAREHOUSES IS A HARD PLACE FOR ME TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND KIND OF WHAT IS LEFT WITH THE LITTLE BIT OF COUNTRY WE HAVE LEFT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THAT'S MY CONCERNS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF THE BOARD HAS TO SAY.

SARAH. >> I TEND TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

I'M NERVOUS ABOUT THE IDEA OF GOING OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY.

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MY FAMILY AND THE COMMUNITY OF ELKTON ARE TERRIFIED OF WHAT COULD BE TO COME.

WE AGREE THAT INDUSTRIAL IS NEEDED IN THIS COUNTY. BUT WE BELIEVE WE COULD FIND A BETTER SUITED AREA FOR THIS. SO. THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP MY FEELINGS. OAY. CHRISTIAN.

>> I WANT TO SAY HOW DIFFICULT THIS IS. I THINK THAT NO MATTER HOW YOU FELT ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WE CAN ALL NOW UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. WE NEED MORE JOBS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

JUST FINANCIALLY DOESN'T WORK IF WE'RE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT.

DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE YOU'RE ON. IF WE APPROVE IT'S GOING TO KILL PEOPLE. IF WE DENY IT MIGHT KILL PEOPLE. WE HEAR IT WILL ENHANCE ELKTON OR DESTROY IT. I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN APPRECIATE LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LONG TIME MULTIGENERATIONAL CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND GIVE OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS.

HAVING HEARD VIEWPOINTS FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T MOVE WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS. I HAVE TO TURN TO THE COMP PLAN. I SHOULD BE PREPARED.

WE HAD ENOUGH PUBLIC COMMENT TO GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE. A .1.2.5, FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BEING PREPARED, SAYS WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS A PART OF THIS APPLICATION A E AND F AND THOSE ARE ALL ABOUT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. IN MY VIEW, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PARCELS. HOWEVER G SAYS THE EXTENT TO COME THE AMENDMENT RESULTS A POSITIVE MARKET ECONOMIC AND FISCAL BENEFITS TO THE AREA AS DEMONSTRATED.

MY WHOLE ISSUE AND I WILL WRAP IT UP. I KNOW WE'RE ALL HUNGRY.

MY WHOLE ISSUE IS WE DON'T HAVE AN ECONOMIC ANALYSIS FROM THE COUNTY.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE DETAILS TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS WOULD BRING FORWARD.

SO, DUE TO MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE SPRAWL AND THE COMPATIBILITY, I'M INCLINED TO VOTE NO TODAY.

>> LET ME MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT. HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE BRIEF. I PUT GREAT EMPHASIS ON TWO MAJOR THINGS WHEN I TRY TO CONSIDER COMPLEX AND CHALLENGING LAND USE DECISIONS.

WHEN YOU SIT HERE AND HERE SO MUCH GOOD TESTIMONY FROM LITERALLY BOTH SIDES.

LITERALLY EVERYONE DID A GREAT JOB IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS. WHEN I PUT EMPHASIS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMPATIBILITY. I THINK THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL PARK. BUT LET ME JUST OFFER MY THOUGHTS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. AND IT'S VERY SIMPLE. I FIND THIS FACILITY PRETTY MUCH TOTALLY COMPATIBLE WITH FARMING. AND I ALSO WILL, IT'S MY OPINION THAT THIS FACILITY IF IT'S PROVED AND BUILT WILL DISCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL ROOF TOPS. THINK ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN PAUL AND I WERE ON THE BOARD. PAUL AND I BOTH SPOKE OUT AGAINST KING'S GRANT.

IF YOU READ MY WORDS, IT WAS INCOMPATIBILITY AND URBAN SPRAWL AT 95 AND 206.

HERE IT'S, IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION THIS FACILITY IS IN FACT COMPATIBLE WITH THE FARMING COMMUNITY AND THEREFORE I AM INCLINED TO VOTE YES IF THERE'S A MOTION.

THAT'S MY POSITION AND AGAIN, I HAVE FRIENDS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE BELIEVE ME.

SOME OF YOU ARE HERE SPEAKING. I HAVE TO BASE MY DECISION ON WHAT I TRULY BELIEVE IS THE BEST ANSWER FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE JOBS THIS WILL PRODUCE FOR THOSE WHO ARE WORKING AT MINIMUM WAGE OR NOT WORKING. THAT'S MY POSITION.

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>> YES, SIR. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE TRANSMITTAL.

COMP PLAN 2022-04. ELKTON INDUSTRIAL PARK BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> IS THERE A >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY.

SO WE WILL NOW HAVE A VOICE VOTE. COMMISSIONER

>> >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> YES.

COMMISSION WALDRON. >> YES. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES. AND I VOTE NO. SO THAT PASSES 4-1.

TO DENY. OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.

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IS WHAT WE'RE ON NOW. IS THAT QUASI >> IT IS NOT.

>> NO, SIR. YES? NO.

NO, SIR. WE WILL START. HELLO.

>> WELL HELLO AGAIN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. I AM ELLEN AVERY SMITH.

100 WET STONE PLACE. I WILL COPRESENT WITH LINDSEY BECAUSE WHY NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO SHARE THE SPOTLIGHT ON A DAY LIKE TODAY. SO I'M GOING TO LET LINDSEY KICK OFF AND CHIME IN ON THE LEGAL STUFF. FOR THE RECORD, LINDSEY HAGUA.

14775 ST. AUGUSTINE ROAD. PRESENTING WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH.

WE HAVE HBIS PROPERTIES AND MR. JOE HILO WITH HILO PROPERTIES AND ETM JEFF CRAMON TO SPEAK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. THE TWO ITEMS NUMBERS 5 AND SIX ARE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING TOGETHER OUR MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY.

THE MAP SHOWS OUR NORTHWEST SECTOR OF THE COUNTY IN RELATION TO CLAY AND DUVAL.

THE YELLOW IS THE GREENBRIAR DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

THE INFILL PIECE WE SPEAK IN DEVELOPMENT AREAS AND GIVES US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

HERE'S OUR MASTER PLAN BROUGHT TO LIFE. THIS IS THE TYPE OF QUALITY COMMUNITY WE SEE WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE PROPERTY IS 2100 ACRE, ROBERTS VILLAGE GIVEN OR CONNECTION TO ROBERTS AND GREENBRIAR VILLAGE TIMBER LAND AND PRESERVE. YOU SEE 500 ACRES OF PRESERVE AREA THE POPPING GREEN AS WELL AS OTHER PUBLIC BENEFITS BROUGHT ON MY MASTER PLANNING LARGE AREAS OF PROPERTY WITHIN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. THE FIRST WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE ROBERTS ROAD FIRE STATION SITE. THIS COULD BE FOR CIVIC USES. ITS LOCATION AT THAT PARTICULAR PORTION ISN'T AS IMPORTANT AS IT'S NOTING TO PROVIDE FOR THE SERVICES HERE WITHIN THE AREA OF THE PROJECT GENERALLY ON THE EXTERNAL AREAS SO WE CAN PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE NEXT OF THIS PROJECT WILL DELIVER IS OUR PARK ROAD AND ACCESS TO THE EXISTING NORTHWEST SECTOR PARK. IT'S KNOWN AS HILO PARK. THAT CONNECTION AND EXTENSION EVER BRIDAL AND WHAT ARE THE COMMITMENTS BY THE DEVELOPER TO ACTIVATE AND ACCELERATE HOW WE

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THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO HIGHLIGHT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS TODAY THAT GETS TO TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION, IT COMES WITH MUCH MORE THAN $28 MILLION YOU WILL HEAR US WALK THROUGH ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

>> THANK YOU, SO CONTINUING ON FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. YOU WILL RECALL THESE WERE SCHEDULED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD IN THE SPRING. THERE ARE STILL TWO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. ONE FOR THE HILO PROPERTY AND ONE FOR HBIS FORMALLY KNOWN AS BTI. WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT PUTTING THE MONEY UP FRONT AND SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF, VERY CLOSELY OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO TO COME UP WITH TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. AGAIN ONE FOR HBIS AND ONE FOR HILO AND IDENTIFIED ON THIS MAP. IF YOU SEE THE HELOW, THE AREAS THAT COVER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE IN BLUE AND THE AREAS THAT COVER THE HBIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE IN ORANGE. YOU WILL NOTE 2061 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS IN HBIS OF WHICH 917 ARE AGE RESTRICTED AND 1439 MULTIFAMILY UNITS WITHIN THE HELOW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THOSE CROSS REFERENCE. IF ONE STARTS DEVELOPMENT, IT TRIGGERS THE OTHERS AND VICE VERSA. THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH $28.9 MILLION OF ROADWAY MONEY AND IMPROVEMENTS UP FRONT. AND SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE. SO, BEFORE ANY HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN, THE DEVELOPERS COMBINED HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE $19.2 MILLION TO ADVANCE CONSTRUCTION OF LONG LEAF PINE PARK WAY FROM PRIMARILY ROBERTS ROAD ALL THE WAY UNDER VETERANS PARKWAY.

VETERANS PARKLANE IS BEING FOUR LANED FROMLONG LEAF. YOUR STAFF IS WORKING ON 210 TO VETERANS PARKWAY EAST TO CIMARON AND BEING PAID BY THE SHEER WATER ASHFORD MILLS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IDEA IS TO TACK ON TO $7 MILLION THE COUNTY HAS BUDGETED FOR LONG LEAF PINE PARKWAY. YOU HAVE TWO LANES IN PLACE. THE IDEA IS TO CONTRIBUTE AND BUILD THE ENTIRE FOUR LANE SECTION OF LONG LEAF PINE PARK WAY YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE AGAIN IN ADVANCE OF ANY DEVELOPMENT BEING PUT ON THE ROAD. OR ANY TRIPS PUT ON THE ROAD BY THE DEVELOPMENT. THE SECOND PART IS FOR THE HBIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THERE WAS AN OBLIGATION FOR THEM TO WIDEN .7 FROM VETERANS 210 WEST 210 INTERSECTION BACK INTO THE PROJECT WHERE THE PROJECT ENTRANCE ROAD WILL MEET UP AND A LITTLE BIT BEYOND.

HERE'S THE PROJECT ENTRANCE ROAD. AND THAT IS ABOUT $9.6 MILLION.

AND SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS PAYING THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND ALSO ADVANCING DOLLARS PREPAYING IMPACT FEES WHICH WILL PAY FOR THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AGAIN, WITHIN THE FOUR HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CASH AND THEN ONE YEAR OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE ROAD WIDENING BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME TO DESIGN, PERMIT AND START CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS.

AND THEN AGAIN THE TOTAL ESTIMATED CONTRIBUTION ADDING IN THE NON-RESIDENTIAL IMPACT FEES GENERATED FROM THE HELOW PROPERTY WILL BE ABOUT $40 MILLION IN ROAD PROPORTION AT SHARE AND IMPACT FEES. AND THEN GOING INTO DOVE TAILING BACK INTO WHAT LINDSEY WAS TALKING ABOUT WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS IN MUCH MORE DETAIL ON OCTOBER 18TH, THE PROGRAM IS 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL AND 3500 HOMES SPREAD OVER THE 2100 ACRES.

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AND SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DETAIL TO NOTE, THESE ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO COUNTY ROADS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND NEED TO BE WIDENED AT THE COST OF THESE DEVELOPERS.

SO. THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARING AND SO WE'RE HERE IT ON ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND THEN WE WILL PRESENT THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE ON OCTOBER 18TH. ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR

US OR OUR TEAM? >> ANY QUESTIONS NOW BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS 5 AND SIX. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

BETH TATE, 441 EAST TINZLY LANE. WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE PROGRESS MADE AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED POSITIVELY BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WERE LISTENED TO AND THE CHANGES BEING MADE. SO WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU MS. TATE. >> ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> MR. LEBONOWSKI. AFTER LISTENING WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE ROADWAYS AFFECTED BY THE COMMUNITY. I'M ALL IN FAVOR. THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

TAKING CARE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE DEFICITS WE HAVE GOING ON OR THE

DEFICIENCIES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE TWO AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE COMMENT.

>> OKAY. DAVID. DO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON

SETTING THE OCTOBER 18TH HEARING? >> YOU JUST NEED TO ANNOUNCE

THAT DATE. >> OH, I CAN DO THAT. I HEREBY ANNOUNCE THAT WE'RE HAVING A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 18TH, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE OUR BOARD MEETING.

SO DONE. THAT WAS EASY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT TAKES US I THINK TO WE'RE MOVING ALONG NOW. THAT WAS ON, THAT WAS ON 5, DO

[Items 7 & 8]

>> YES, YOU ANNOUNCED BOTH 5 AND SIX WILL BE HEARD TO OCTOBER 18TH.

>> I HEREBY ANNOUNCE ON NUMBER SIX, THE SAME SECOND READING. NOW WE'RE ON SEVEN.

DID WE DO 7? 7 AND EIGHT ARE EX PARTE. SO CURTIS HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

WE HAVE TO DO EX PARTE ON BOTH ITEMS. >> MR. CHAIR.

JUST NUMBER 8. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY -- >> YOU READ MY MIND.

I WAS GOING TO SAY NUMBER 8. WE'RE GOING TO DO AHEAD AND DO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE TOGETHER.

>> EX PARTE. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD ON 8? >> YES THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 15, 2022, AT APPROXIMATELY 11:00 A.M. I MET WITH CURTIS HEART AND SPOKE ABOUT THE CLATTER BRIDGE PROJECT. THE AMOUNT OF HOMES BUILT, BUFFERING AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS.

>> CHRISTIAN. THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 15, '12:30. MET WITH CURTIS AND STAFF.

DISCUSSED TRAFFIC AND ACCOMMODATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE DUE TO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

>> WELL, I WILL SAY ON NUMBER 8, I MET WITH CURTIS HEART YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND SPENT ABOUT A MINUTE HALF ON THE PROJECT IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT OLD TIMES.

SINCE WE GO BACK 40 YEARS. I HATE TO ADMIT IT. PAUL.

ANY EX PARTE? >> YES, SIR, ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, AT 1:00 P.M. I MET WITH MR. HEART AND THE BUILDER AND WITH STAFF. WE DISCUSSED THE CHANGES BEING MADE TO THE LAND. THE TYPES OF HOUSES BEING BUILT. THE AFFINITY FOR KEEPING TREES, THE ROADWAY GOING IN. THE JOINT USE AGREEMENT AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

>> MR. BLOCKER. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I SPOKE YESTERDAY BY TELEPHONE MR. CURTIS HEART SEPTEMBER 19TH AT APPROXIMATELY 4:00 P.M. MR. HART AND I SPOKE ABOUT THE

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ON THAT. >> FLOOR IS YOURS. >> I WANT TO GIVE A FEW MINUTES TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. ARE YOU GOING TO CONTROL THIS? JUST HIT THE TOP BUTTON. CLATTER BRIDGE IS THE NAME OF THE STREET.

DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THIS IS A SMALL LITTLE PARCEL RIGHT NEXT TO PALM VALLEY ROAD TO THE NORTH OF THE ROAD. WEST OF THE INTERCOASTAL.

A LITTLE LESS THAN FIVE ACRES, WE'RE DOING SEVEN LOTS. WE APPLIED TO DO NINE LOTS PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. AND WE HAD SOME FOLKS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE TERMINUS OF PLATTER BRIDGE. THERE'S NINE HOMES OF PALM VALLEY HARBOR. EIGHT ON THE INTERCOASTAL AND HAD MANY MEETINGS WITH FOLKS OVER THERE. WE REDUCED OUR UNITS TO SEVEN, SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS WITH A PRIVATE ROAD PROBABLY PRIVATE GATED. CLATTER BRIDGE IS PRIVATE.

AND WE ARE REMOVING, LET ME GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. LAND USE CURRENTLY IS R UR.

WE'RE PROPOSING RES B. TWO UNITS PER ACRE. WE ABUT RES B.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED OR. WE'RE GOING TO RS2 WHICH WOULD MINIMUM 90 FOOT LOTS. 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY WILL BE BIGGER THAN THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE 4.14 ACRES AND SEVEN LOTS. SO ANYWAY.

WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON MANY OCCASIONS AND CAME UP TO AN AGREEMENT ON JOINT USE OF CLATTER BRIDGE ROAD TO JOINTLY MAINTAIN IT. ALL THE HOMEOWNERS PAST US IN PALM VALLEY HARBOR ARE INCLUDED IN IT AND OUR SEVEN HOUSES. THESE WILL ALL BE CUSTOM HOMES.

WE'RE GOING TO MEANDER THE TREES, WE WILL REMANDER THE ROAD AROUND TREES.

ONLY GOING TO CLEAR THE SITE WHERE THE HOUSE IS AND DRIVEWAY. MINIMUM IMPACT TO THE AREA.

MOST TREES WILL BE SAVED. ANYWAY. WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FOLKS DOWN THE STREET JOINT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. WE ARE REMOVING A HOUSE AND TWO MOBILE HOMES AND THREE SEPTIC TANKS AND BRINGING IN PUBLIC UTILITIES.

JEA IN THIS CASE. CITY WATER AND SEWER. AND BRINGING FIRE PROTECTION TO CLATTER BRIDGE ROAD ALSO. ANY QUESTIONS? I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT MORE.

THAT'S A SITE PLAN. WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THE WETLANDS AT ALL.

IT SHOULD BE A VERY NICE LITTLE PROJECT. SEVEN HOMES WILL START

$1.2 MILLION AND ABOVE. BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS MR. HART?

OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 7 AND 8. ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MIKE ANTONOPOLIS.

IT'S HEARD YOU COULD GET MR. CURTIS TO REMINISCE ABOUT OLD TIMES.

I HAVE KNOWN HIM AS LONG AS YOU HAVE. CURTIS MADE APPLICATION FOR RESIDENTIAL C. WE WERE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS UP TO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T PROPOSING THAT MUCH DENSITY.

WE ARE MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NINE, I THOUGHT IT WAS 10 LOTS WOULDN'T HAVE ALLOWED FOR PRESERVATION FOR AS MANY TREES. THE SITE IS NICELY TREED AND WE WERE MOSTLY INTERESTED IN THAT.

BECAUSE IT AFFECTED OUR ARRIVAL INTO THE COMMUNITY. WE MET WITH STAFF WITH THE APPLICANT. THEY AGREED AND CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL B.

MODIFIED DOWN TO SEVEN LOTS AND JUST TO DISCLOSE, THEY LIKED WHAT I HAD TO TELL THEM SO MUCH THAT THEY HAVE HIRED ME NOW TO HELP THEM WITH THE SITE PLAN TO TRY TO PRESERVE THE TREES.

SO I'M NOW INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT SINCE I'M COMING TO A CONCLUSION BY SUPPORTING THE PROJECT. NOT JUST ME BUT ALL RESIDENTS OF

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CLATTER BRIDGE. PALM VALLEY HARBOR. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON AGENDA ITEMS 7 AND 8? >> SEEING NONE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA 7 AND 8. >> WE NEED TWO VOTES ON 7 AND 8.

>> IS THERE A MOTION ON SEVEN. >> MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE IS.

MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022 -- >> 64.

>> THANK YOU. APPROVING CPA 2021-23 CLATTER BRIDGE BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF

FACT PROVIDED IN THE >> >>

AR >> >>

>> >> YES. PAUL.

>> YES. AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES.

THAT PASSES 5-0. 8, IS THERE A MOTION? >> THERE IS MR. CHAIRMAN.

MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022- >> 65. >> APPROVES RESIDENCE 2021-15

[9. Public Hearing * CPA(SS) 2021-21 Pacetti Homestead Property.]

>> SECOND. >> VOICE >>

>> >> WHITEHURST. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> YES. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES. >> AND I VOTE YES. THAT TOO APPROVES 5-0.

SEE YOU IN 20 OR 30 YEARS CURTIS. WE WILL REMINISCE.

THAT BRINGS US TO ALL THE WAY TO 9 I BELIEVE. SETTY HOMESTEAD PROPERTY.

>> HELLO AGAIN. >> YOU'RE ON A ROLL, AREN'T YOU? >> WELL I'M HOPING TO BE, I'M FEELS A LITTLE WARN OUT BY NOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. ON BEHALF OF EAST LAND WHO IS MY CLIENT. WE WILL WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL A FUTURE DATE.

>> DO WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE? >> IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS?

>> BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE? >> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON TABLING AGENDA ITEM NINE. ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON TABLING AGENDA

[10. Discussion Item regarding possible revisions to the St. Johns County Land Development Code to include Veterinary Services in the Office & Professional Use Classification.]

COMMENT. IS THERE A MOTION? >>

>> YES. SO MOTION TO TABLE NUMBER >> ALL RIGHT.

SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. VOICE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER >> >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> YES. COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> YES.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR. I VOTE YES.

THAT PASSES 5-0. ALL RIGHT. 10.

-- WHO IS PRESENTING 10? WE'RE GOING TO HEAR I THINK -- THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A STAFF I THINK RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM AND THEN WE CAN CALL ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK THERE ARE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT IS THE STAFF

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF BOARD.

GOOD AFTERNOON JUSTIN KELLY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. AND WITH ME TODAY IS SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER AMY RING. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE.

I DO NOT SEE MY POWER POINT COMING UP. JUST ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

OKAY. WE DID TURN IN A POWER POINT LAST WEEK.

BUT NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE IT. GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WING IT WITHOUT THE POWER POINT PRESENTATION.

MY APOLOGIES. THIS DISCUSSION TO INCLUDE VETERINARY SERVICES IN THE OFFICE AND POLICY USE. GROWTH MANAGEMENT WAS ASKED TO REVIEW THE LAND MANAGEMENT CODE AND THE POSSIBLE USE OF INCORPORATING VETERINARY USES IN OFFICE AND USE CASES.

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THAT IS IT NOT APPLY TO VETS OPERATING WITH A LICENSE FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO HAPPEN TO BOARD DOGS. SO MOVING ON TO SECTION 20201 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THIS IS THE SECTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT PRESCRIBES THE OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES USE CLASSIFICATION. THIS SECTION STATES THAT OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES HAVE PRIMARILY DAY TIME OPERATIONS. NORMALLY THERE IS AN ABSENCE OF IMPACTS DUE TO NOISE, LIGHT OR POLLUTION AND THERE IS NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OR ACTIVITY ALLOWED.

THE SECTION ALSO PROVIDES A LIST OF TYPICAL USES AS SHOWN IN YOUR STAFF PACKAGES.

STAFF WILL NOT GO OVER ALL OF THOSE USES LISTED WITHIN THE SECTION BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THIS SECTION DOES NOT CURRENTLY INCLUDE VETERINARY SERVICES AS A TYPICAL USE WITHIN THE CATEGORY. SO THERE IS A TABLE OF ALLOWED USES WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKETS TOWARDS THE END. PROVIDED ON THAT TABLE IS THE USE CLASSIFICATIONS AND IN TURN THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT PERMIT VETERINARY TYPE USES.

IT'S INDICATED BY A ON THE TABLE AND SPECIAL USE INDICATED BY S. IF IT'S LEFT BLANK.

IT'S NOT ALLOWED WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT. THE OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL USE CLASSIFICATION IS OMITTED FROM THIS TABLE BECAUSE IT CURRENTLY DOES NOT ALLOW AND VETERINARY SERVICES USES. ADDITIONALLY THE OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE USE CLASSIFICATION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THIS TABLE TO INDICATE IT TOO DOES ■NOT CURRENTLY PERMT AND VETERINARY SERVICE USES. FOR THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS ARE PRESCRIBED WITHIN 20341 WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND SHOULD BE INCLUDED AT THE END OF YOUR PACKETS.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL NOT GO OVER ALL BUT REQUIRE SETBACK FOR VETERINARY SERVICES AND OFFICE STRUCTURES ADJOINING DEPENDING IF IT'S CLOSED OR NOT. SO THE LAST SECTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ADDRESSES VETERINARY SERVICE IS 60804. ADDITIONAL STANDARDS REQUIRED FOR VETERINARY CLINICS NO MATTER IF THE USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT. THESE IN PLACE TO MITIGATE IMPACTS AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING USES AND THE SAME TYPES OF DESIGN STANDARDS I DESCRIBED BUT LESS RESTRICTIVE IN THE PLACEMENT OF THE VET STRUCTURES IN ADJACENT TO A DWELLING UNIT OR RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY. AGAIN IF WE NEED TO DISCUSS THOSE, THOSE ARE IN THE PACK AND WE CAN DISCUSS. STAFF'S RESEARCH INCLUDED LOOKING AT SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND HOW THEY ALLOW VETERINARY USE SERVICES.

NO TWO JURISDICTIONS CODES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AND EACH JURISDICTION CATEGORIZES AND ZONING IN THEIR OWN WAY. HOWEVER STAFF'S RESEARCH FOUND THOSE SURROUNDING OBJECTION JUDGES ARE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOES WITH VETERINARY SERVICES AND NONE OF THE RESEARCH WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN ANY PROFESSIONAL ZONING OFFICE OR CATEGORY.

GROWTH MANAGEMENT STAFF HAS CONCERNED ABOUT ADDING VETERINARY SERVICES TO THIS CATEGORY. WHERE VET SERVICES CURRENTLY ALLOWED THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO REMAIN COMPLAINTS AMID ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS. ANIMALS ARE DIFFICULT TO CONTROL. THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR NOISE. THIS COULD BE A CAUSE FOR CONCERN WITH ANY OFFICE OR PROFESSIONAL TYPESETTING, ESPECIALLYITH AN OFFICE WHERE THERE'S NO SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. THERE ARE ANIMALS THAT WILL NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM SO POST AND PRE-ENTRY. CODE OFFICERS WILL NEED TO GO

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THEY CLEARLY DELINEATE AND ACCOUNT FOR USES. THIS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES LIMITING IMPACTS SUCH AS NOISE, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, AND OTHER IMPACTS SUCH AS ODORS.

SHOULD THIS BOARD DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDING VET SERVICES TO THE OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL USE CASES THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS OF CONSIDERATION. THOSE INCLUDE SETBACK AND BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, SOUND PROOFING AND POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH LOCATION AND PROXIMITY TO OTHER USES, ESPECIALLY IF THAT EXISTING BUSINESS IS WITHIN AN OFFICE SUITE OR OFFICE SUITE ENVIRONMENT CONNECTED AND NO SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.

OVERALL THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION, STAFF WELCOMES DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THIS ITEM AND WILL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I CAN SEE THE POWER POINT IS STILL UP.

IF WE NEED

>> MR. KELLY I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID.

THIS USE IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE OTHER COUNTIES AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

>> IT IS NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT. OTHER COUNTIES THE ZONING DISTRICTS ARE COMPARABLE. AND THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THAT ALLOW THIS TYPE OF USE WITH THEY REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE PACIFIC DESIGN STANDARDS, ADDITIONAL DESIGN STANDARDS SUCH AS SOUNDPROOFING SOME REQUIRE SEPARATE HVAC UNITS AND THERE IS SOME SORT OF STIPULATION AND SCREAM I THINK YOU I WANT TO ? I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10. ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

MR. BURNETT?

>> DOUG BURNETT SAINT JAS LAW GROUP.

KUDOS TO JUSTIN CALLIE TO WORK THROUGH THAT WITHOUT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION A GREAT CRUNCH YOU HAVE AND THEN TO NOT HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

ONE GOOD THING FOR YOU, THIS IS NOT FOR YOU TODAY FOR FINAL APPROVAL, YOU DON'T HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT I HAVE FORWARDED INCOME I THINK YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF THE CONCERNS JUST BY HOW YOU REVISE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW THOSE I WILL TELL YOU WE SURVEYED A NUMBER OF COUNTIES THAT DO ALLOW THIS USE AND IT MAKES GOOD SENSE IN THE RIGHT SETTING IF THERE IS THE RIGHT LIMITATIONS ON IT DOCTORS OFFICES GET PHASED OUT IN 10, 15, 20 YEARS EVERYTHING ON THE INTERIOR IS NO GOOD.

HAS TO BE COMPLETELY RENOVATED BUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT USE FOR A VET OFFICE ALL AROUND THE COUNTY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE VERY PRODUCTIVE. AS WE HAVE SEEN THE COUNTY GROW AND BECOME MORE SOPHISTICATED THE DEMAND FOR VET SERVICES THE SOPHISTICATION OF SERVICES ALLOWED WERE VET, IT WILL LOOK FOR A MEDICAL OFFICE REUSE AS VET CLINICS.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIMITING THIS, A VET CLINIC REQUIRES NOT ONLY A LICENSED VETERINARIAN IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA BUT REQUIRES A PREMISES ITSELF TO BE LICENSED AS A VET CLINIC SO YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO GET TO LEVELS OF LIMITATION THAT SEPARATES IT AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS AND I SENT THE SENDERS NUMBER OF COUNTIES MANY COUNTIES IN OUR STATE DO NOT DIFFERENTIATE DO NOT HAVE THIS PROFESSIONAL CATEGORY THEY JUST WON'T BEGIN WITH COMMERCIAL GENERAL SO THIS ADDED LAYER OF OFFICE PROFESSIONAL IS ACTUALLY CREATING A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE VET CLINIC AND THERE'S LIMITATION AND IF YOU HAVE A STANDALONE BUILDING ALL OF THOSE, MANY OF THOSE CONCERNS, GO AWAY THAT YOU HAVE FOR HIM FAMILY I GUESS I WOULD CONCLUDE BY SAYING PLEASE ADVANCE THIS SO WE CAN GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A VET BY PCA YOU ARE NOT COMMITTED TO APPROVING A DINNER THE DAY BUT IT LETS YOU NOT ONLY GET THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY BUT THE PUBLIC, WE WILL TAKE IT UNDER REVIEW.

>> DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I HAVE NONE.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF DIRECTING STAFF TO GO

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AND I AM A DOG LOVER AND. [INDISCERNIBLE] CHRISTINE? I WILL MAKE A MOTION BASICALLY TO DIRECT STAFF TO PURSUE AMENDMENTS WITH VETERINARY OFFICES AND THE OFFICE CLASSIFICATION THAT WILL BE MY MOTION.

[11. Consider appointments to the Northwest Communication Tower Advisory Board.]

>> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOICE VOTE.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>>.

>> >> BETH APPROVED.

INDISCERNIBLE]. ALL RIGHT.

THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.ET'S GO TO 11.

JOANN?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS JOANN SPENCER ASSISTANT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS I'M HERE TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE NORTHWEST COMMUNICATIONS TOWER ADVISORY BOARD. CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THESE BOARD DUE TO EXPIRING TERMS A VACANCY AD WAS PLACED FOR 90 DAYS PLEASE FIND FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION A RECOMMENDATION LETTER AND APPLICATION.

I WILL STAND BY YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> SHALL BE HALF PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST?

>> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.

ANYBODY WHO LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC,, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I WILL MOVE TO REAPPOINT DAVID LEAVY TO THE NORTHWEST COMMUNICATIONS TOWER ADVISORY BOARD FOR A FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 20 2026.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THAT PAUL?

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I MOVED TO REAPPOINT GEORGE.

[INDISCERNIBLE] TO THE NORTHWEST TOWER COMMUNICATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR A FULL FOUR-YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE. [INDISCERNIBLE] 2026.

[12. Discussion item regarding the establishment of a Sales Tax Advisory Committee.]

>>.

>> I VOTE YES, THAT PASSES 5-0. NOW WE ARE GOING TO I THINK OUR LAST ITEM BECAUSE WE TOOK CARE OF 13 EARLIER IN THE DAY.

PLET ME LEAVE THIS OFF, IF I MAY.

THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO DETERMINE ON NOVEMBER 8 WHETHER OR NOT TO INCREASE THE CURRENT SALES TAX OF 6 AND A HALF PERCENT TO 7 AND A HALF PERCENT TO DEAL WITH THE SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE BACKLOG OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

THERE IS HISTORY OF THAT BACKLOG THAT WAS CREATED.

WE THOROUGHLY DISGUSTED LAST MARCH, APRIL, MAY.

IT IS NOW ON THE BALLOT. I HAVE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTY IN THE LAST MONTH OR TWO AND THEY HAVE EXPRESSED SOME SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND IDEAS ABOUT WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.

THERE IS A STAFF THAT HAS PREPARED A MASTER LIST IN MARCH TO PRESENT TO US, AND SO IT WILL BE REVIEWED AND MOVE

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>> I WANTED TO WONDER OUT LOUD WOULD THERE BE ONE PERSON FROM EACH DISTRICT?WOULD THERE BE MY OWN PERSON.

>> I THINK IT'S NECESSARY THAT THE STAFF CAN COME BACK AND GIVE US RECOMMENDATION FOR ? TO DECIDE HOW MANY IT WAS SERVED.

THE KEY THING, THE CONCEPT, HAVING EACH OF YOU.

[INDISCERNIBLE] THE CONCEPT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR TO GIVE THAT STAFF DIRECTION.

>> I UNDERSTAND. AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC ITEM ON AGENDA ITEM 12.

ANYBODY THAT WOULLIKE TO MAKE U PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I THINK THIS SHOULD BE TABLED. I THINK THIS ITEM SHOULD BE TABLED. IT'S PREMATURE.

IT'S PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AND IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT BCC DOESN'T EVEN CARE WHAT THEY THINK, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE BOAT AND THE SALES TAX IS THE MOST PROGRESSIVE TAX WE HAVE AND THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE PEOPLE IN 2015 AND OFF THE ELECTION NOTHING ELSE ON THE BALLOT A HUGE INCREASE IN SALES TAX AND MAYBE THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THIS. PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THIS TAX AND TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT THAT IS FINE AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, I WILL GO WITH YOU TO TALLAHASSEE AND WE NEED TO TELL TALLAHASSEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH IMPACT FEES, MAKE THEM FULLY REFLECT AND INTERNALIZE THE COST WHICH WE ARE NOT DOING NOW IN OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE DOESN'T DO BUT I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO HAVE A SALES TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE IT'S PREMATURE TO WASTE STAFF TIME ON SUCH A PROPOSAL AND I QUESTIONED THE WISDOM OF THIS. PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.

IT MAKES US LOOK LIKE YOU ARE SO HOT TO TROT SPENDING MONEY THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE YET THAT YOU WANT TO APPOINT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND GET THEM INVESTED IN THE PROCESS AND WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HYPOTHETICALLY IT DOESN'T EXIST YET THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION YET BECAUSE THE SALES TAX HASN'T PASSED IT. IS TOTALLY PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE IN A SENSE A MESSAGE YOU ARE STILL LISTENING TO THE DEVELOPERS. THESE PEOPLE WHO COME IN HERE AND DESTROY OUR TREES AND WETLANDS AND KILL OUR RABBITS AND KILL OUR WILDLIFE AND POLLUTE OUR ENVIRONMENT.

CLOG THE ROADS. SUBJECT US TO 120 PORTABLE CLASSROOMS. THIS IS NUTS.

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IT'S THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.

WE ARE GOING TO SPEND COUNTY STAFF TIME ON SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST YET. IF YOU WERE TO GET IT, THEN DO THIS BUT BEFORE IT IS EVEN VOTED ON BY THE VOTERS, WE HAVE AN EVEN MAILED OUT THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS.

THAT SEPTEMBER 29 AND NOBODY HAS VOTED YET.

NOT ONE SINGLE VOTER AND UNTIL NOVEMBER 8 AT 7 PM, THIS IS TOTALLY PREMATURE AND IT MAKES YOU ALL LOOK BAD.

IT'S A HALF-BAKED IDEA TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AN ESTABLISHED COMMITTEE FOR A SALES TAX THAT HOPEFULLY WILL GET VOTED DOWN SO PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.

PLEASE RECONSIDER.

>> WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT?

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> 121 LAGOON FOREST DRIVE. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO VOTE ON THIS THEY ARE WORRIED THAT THE MONEY IS NOT GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT WE SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE FOR AND THAT WAS ROADS AND I THINK THERE WAS A LIST OF THE PAPER AND THE TAX IN YOUR THROWING ANOTHER COMMITTEE AROUND AND PEOPLE ARE GOING COME ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT MONEY WILL BECOME A HUGE POT IF IT DOES PASS THAT WILL GO EVERYWHERE SO I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT PURE AND WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO VOTE ON AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PASS IT BUT IF WE DID I THINK YOU SHOULD KEEP IT WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF HANDS IN THE POT AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU VERY SOON THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12?

>> DJ CLAY WEST CITY OF AUGUSTINE.

GUESS WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY? THERE IS NO NEED TO CREATE A SALES TAX COMMITTEE FUNDED WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS.

TO PUSH THE PROPAGANDA, OF POLITICIANS TO CONVINCE VOTERS TO VOTE ON NOVEMBER 8, TO INCREASE THE SALES TAX.

THINK ABOUT THIS, FOLKS. NONPROFITS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DO NOT PAY SALES TAX. VOTE NO SALES TAX INCREASE ON NOVEMBER 8 AND MR. DEAN'S PUBLIC THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SHOULD HAVE SHOWN UP AT THESE MEETINGS AND EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS AND LET THEM GO AHEAD AND VOTE THE WAY THEY WANT TO VOTE. SOON I THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> I WILL MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT TO MY GOOD FRIEND ED SLAVEN, TO QUOTE DUSTIN HOFFMAN, MY IDEA IS COMPLETELY BAKED.

[Public Comment]

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> WE NEED A MOTION? WE HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> IF YOU CAN COME TO CONSENSUS THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

>> CONSENSUS, EVERYBODY IN?

>> YES. THAT COMPLETES I BELIEVE THE REGULAR AGENDA.AND WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT VERY SOON GET THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. WE INVITE YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE HIS OR HER ADDRESS.

COMMENT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER MAY NOT INCLUDE A IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD. NOBODY SHOULD ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ITS APPROVAL OR APPROVAL FORM, SO I WOULD ASK ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENT OVERHEAD MATERIAL, PLEASE PRESENT THAT TO THE STAFF TO BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] KENNY MCLEAN.

[INDISCERNIBLE] ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HAS A RICH HISTORY AND OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN ST. JOHN'S AND THE ATLANTIC COAST THE FAST-GROWING COMMUNITY IS HOME TO 300,000 REVENUE ? THERE ARE GROWING DIVERSITIES AND POPULATION THAT'S COMMERCIAL AND IT'S BECOMING THE LEADING COUNTY TO LIVE IN.

AND THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF

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THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT ACT OF 1964.

[INDISCERNIBLE] PART THREE OF CHAPTER 163 OF FLORIDA STATUTES WAS ENACTED BY LEGISLATION TO ENABLE THE COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES TO ELIMINATE AND PREVENT THE DEVELOPMENT AND SPREAD OF SMALL AND URBAN BLIGHT TO ENCOURAGE NEEDY COMMUNITY REHABILITATION AND PROVIDE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF ? AREAS. NOW WE ARE ASKING TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN BE HEARD. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER STEPS TO TAKE TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND ASKED FOR YOUR DIRECTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

HAVE A BLESSED DAY. >> SHERRY BADGER 2772 S.

COLLINS AVENUE. I KNOW SOME OF YOUR STAFF DON'T THINK THIS IS A BIG DEAL. OKAY.

RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE WAY THE WATER USED TO GO ON SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. OKAY.

THIS IS THE WAY IT IS GOING THAT OPERATE ACROSS THE ROAD INTO THE SIDE OF THE GUARDS. COMMISSIONER DEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY SPENT $80,000 TO FIX THIS BUT THEY HAVEN'T FIXED IT YET. THIS WATER IS COMING OUT OF HERE COMING INTO THIS AND IF YOU CAN SEE THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A LITTLE COLBERT THAT THEY PUT THERE.

IT WAS THERE BUT IT WAS SMASHED ON OTHER WORDS ALL OF THIS WATER USED TO RUN DOWN THIS WAY NOW COMES ACROSS THE STREET AND GOES THIS WAY AND THIS WAY IN OUR YARD.

SO YOU CAN SEE PLAINLY THAT THE ELEVATION OF THIS ROAD, NUMBER ONE THIS WAS A NEW ROAD SHOWING THE 18 AND 2019.

NOT ONE CURVE AND NOT ONE GUTTER.

YOUR EMPLOYEES DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE STATE. THIS IS A NEW ROAD THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CURVED AND GATHERED. IT HAD A TURN LANE.

IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE OF ORGANIZATION WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE STILL LIVED IN THE UNIT WITH IT.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY TO PRESERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS.

>> I WILL ASK THE STAFF AGAIN. THIS COMES UP SHE BRINGS UP POINTS PERIODICALLY ON THIS I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP.

I WOULD LIKE THE STAFF REPORT AT THE NEXT MEETING IN THE FOLLOWING MEETING POSSIBLE I THINK SHE DESERVES AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. PLEASE DO THAT.

>> AND JUST FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, WHAT IS THE QUESTION BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THE STAFF RESPONDED TO THE BOARD'S DIRECTION AND WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION. SO IF THE QUESTION IS, THIS WAS DONE IN 2018 AT 2019 AND THERE IS NO CURB AND GUTTER MY THOUGHT OR ORDINANCES AFTER MY REVIEW OF THE PLANNING ISSUED REQUIRED CURB AND GUTTER IN THIS CASE CURB AND GUTTER

>> YES IF I HAD A CURB AND GUTTER IT WOULD COME AROUND IN A CIRCLE AND GO UNDERNEATH THE ROAD AND GO INTO THE SAME EMPTY DITCH RIGHT HERE THAT IS FULL WHEN IT RAINS.

>> SO I AM ASKING STAFF >> IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVE BEEN

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>> IF YOU REMEMBER AFTER ONE OR TWO MONTHS AFTER FIRST PRESENTATION I DIRECTED STAFF TO DO AN IN-DEPTH REVIEW AND REPORT TO US. SPENT WITH THE ONLY THING THAT THE LAST THING DID YOU DIRECTED THEM TO DO THEY SPENT $80,000 IS MY NEIGHBOR, I BROUGHT PICTURES OF MY NEIGHBORS BUSINESS FLOODING AND THEY CORRECTED THAT PART OF IT AND DID NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT ME OR WHAT IS AFTER ME.

>> I AM PERSISTENT WHEN I GET ON SOMETHING AND I WILL CONTINUE TO ASK THE STAFF UNTIL I FEEL LIKE THE QUESTIONS HAVE ALL BEEN ANSWERED. I'M SORRY IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG AS YOU HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED I AM DOING ALL I CAN IS ONE COMMISSIONER TO ADDRESS YOUR PROBLEM.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT COMMISSIONER BUT OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> >> YES MA'AM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> MY NAME IS CAROL HOLTZ I LIVE AT 703 HENSLEYSTREET .

[INDISCERNIBLE] FIRST OF ALL I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO ALL THAT HAS GONE ON TODAY. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS I AM NOT SURE HOW TO ET ANSWERS BUT I AM FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT MY NEIGHBOR PRESENTED ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF HASTINGS WE HAVE MET WITH SOME COUNTY AUTHORITIES AND EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS ABOUT CONDITIONS IN HASTINGS.

I DID NOT SPEAK ON THE ELTON PROJECT BECAUSE I WAS TORN BUT I MUST SAY WE HAVE VERY LITTLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS HASTINGS WAS A THRIVING CITY IN THE 40S AND 50S WHEN I GREW UP. WE HAD MOVIE THEATERS, GROCERY STORES, CAR DEALERSHIPS, TO SCHOOLS AND A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY. AND THE FARMING WAS THE BASIS FOR THAT APPARENTLY AND I THINK SOME HAD TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY WHEN THE CAPABILITY OF CREATING POTATOES WITH MACHINES CAME ABOUT IT ELIMINATED MUCH OF THE COMMERCE THAT BENEFITED THE WORKING PEOPLE.O WE, IN ESSENCE, HAVE BEEN BLIGHTED SINCE THE EARLY 60S. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR OVER A YEAR.

MANY OF US HAVE MET CONSISTENTLY AND PERSISTENTLY MR. DEAN AND WE ARE HERE TODAY WE SENT YOU THE PETITIONS WITH OUR REQUESTS BACK IN JULY AND I AM ALSO ASKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM YOU GUYS ON WHAT TO DO NEXT WE HAVE EXPRESSED WHAT OUR NEED IS BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS I AM FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHEN WE MADE THE EFFORT TO GET THE LETTERS ON THE PETITIONS THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED US TO GET A REQUEST ON THE AGENDA AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT. WE ARE BACK HERE NOW AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW FOR SURE HAVE WE DONE WHAT WE NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT SO THAT OUR REQUESTS FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ACR EIGHT AND HASTINGS CAN MOVE FORWARD TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?

>> SARAH WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? I WOULD LIKE TO GET A BRIEFING ON THIS IS WHERE WE STAND.

I KNOW ? TALKED ABOUT REQUESTING A CRA AND AT LEAST GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS IF WE WANTED TO PURSUE THAT.

>> WE COULD ASK STAFF FOR PRESENTATION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN HASTINGS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE IT PROBABLY ISN'T PUBLIC AVENUE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS.

>> WE WILL GET BACK FOR DISCUSSION WE GET THIS ANALYSIS

AND ANYONE ELSE >> SO OUR REQUESTS TODAY WILL NOT RESULT IN IT BEING AN AGENDA ITEM BUT YOU WILL TAKE

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>> AND I THINK THE AGENDA ITEM. A STAFF PRESENTATION THAT YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN AND LISTEN TO AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON A REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMISSION MEETING DAY.

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT MIGHT BE YET.

I DON'T WANT TO BE PUSHY.

>> WE ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED BY NOT FIRST OF ALL UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS AND NOT REALIZING WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REPORT BACK TO OUR CONCERNED CITIZENS OF WHAT TO EXPECT.

>> I AM SAYING IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE WE WILL HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION AND YOU WILL BE INVITED TO DISCUSS THE INS AND OUTS OF THE ROADBLOCKS ON THE BENEFITS OF CREATING A CRA FOR THE GREATER HASTINGS AREA.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BRIEFLY.

>> IF I RECALL CORRECTLY LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE AND I SPOKE YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO DO THAT TO DO ANALYSIS OF FEASIBILITY AND FIND OUT IF IT WAS AND I AM DISMAYED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER THREE MONTHS BEFORE THAT'S DONE.

>> I AM HERE TODAY RIGHT NOW WE WILL HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA IN DECEMBER OR EARLIER I WILL PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR.

I KEEP A MONTH-TO-MONTH CALENDAR.

WE WILL HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA IN DECEMBER OR NOVEMBER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER.

>> WITH ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A GENERAL OR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE SHERIFF IN RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS AT THE LAST BUDGET MEETING FOR ANNOUNCING WE WILL BE GETTING POLICE BODY WORN CAMERAS AND DASHBOARD CAMERAS AND I INTENTIONALLY DID NOT REPORT ONTO MY BLOG.

[INDISCERNIBLE] I WAS CURIOUS IF THE SHERIFF OR THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO DO A PRESS RELEASE AND I WAS CURIOUS IF SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD WOULD EVEN REPORTED AND I AM VERY SORRY IT'S VERY SAD TO HAVE TO TELL YOU THE SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD AND NOT EVEN REPORT WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CHAMBER, WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS PODIUM. THEY DID A STORY ABOUT THE BUDGET THAT LOOK LIKE A PRESS RELEASE AND THE MOST IMPORTANT DETAIL, WE ARE GETTING DASHBOARD CAMERAS.

WE HAVE BEEN HEARD.HE SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD HAS DELUSIONS OF ADEQUACY AND I HOPE ANYBODY WITHIN THE SOUND OF MY VOICE WILL CONSIDER STARTING A NEW NEWSPAPER IN THIS COUNTY ARE BUY THEM OUT BECAUSE ? HAS SOLD A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES A NUMBER OF NEWSPAPERS HAVE BEEN SOLD TO LOCALS.

THE SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD IS NO LONGER A LOCAL NEWSPAPER.

THEY USED TO COVER THE PCC AND SAY WHAT YOU ALL WERE DOING.

OOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT. IT WOULD HAVE DEPRIVED OUR DEMOCRACY HERE IN THIS COUNTY AND WE NEED ACCURATE INFORMATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON SO I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL SEE ME AFTER CLASS ON HASTINGS. I BELIEVE IT WAS A MISTAKE FOR ST. JOHN COUNTY VOTERS TO VOTE TO DISESTABLISH HASTINGS I THINK THE PRIOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HAD A HATE ON FOR HASTINGS. HASTINGS WAS A TOWN GOVERNMENT WITH A MAJORITY MINORITY. [INDISCERNIBLE] AND IT WAS RACIST FOR ? TO TARGET HASTINGS TO BE ABOLISHED AND FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER AND FOR WHAT? ALSO, IF I COULD NAG YOU A LITTLE BIT.

I WROTE YOU ON MARCH 15. I SENT YOU AN EMAIL SUGGESTING YOU CONSIDER 25 DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT REFORMS INCLUDING AN OMBUDSMAN AND BEEFING UP THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OFFICE AND CHANGING THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND WE NEVER GOT TO DISCUSS THOSE THINGS. AND THE COUNTY NEVER PUT ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE LOBBYING REGISTRATION. WE ONLY HAVE FIVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE USED TO HAVE SEVEN AND FIVE OF THOSE SEVEN USED TO BE ELECTED FROM SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS WHICH IS HOW THEY DO IT IN OTHER COUNTIES.

LET'S TALK ABOUT GOVERNMENT REFORM AND NOT SALES TAX INCREASES. PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THAT AND SAINT AUGUSTINE IS PREACHING ITS DUTY UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO BE A WATCHDOG FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND THE FACT THAT THEY DID NOT STASH BODY CAMERAS.

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>> AND FOR THE RECORD, SPEAKING OF THE RECORD THE ABOLISHMENT HASTINGS WAS A REFERENDUM BY THE CITY VOTERS NOT COUNTYWIDE REFERENDUM WITHIN THE CITY OF HASTINGS MAKES IT COUNTYWIDE.

>> I STAND CORRECTED.

>> THE RESIDENCE OF HASTINGS WAS THAT REPRESENTED BY THE CITY. MOST OF US WERE NOT VERY HASTINGS, OUTSIDE OF A SMALL BOUNDARY AND STATES KNOWN AS HASTINGS WAS NOT REPRESENTED BY THE TOWN OF HASTINGS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? NOW IS THE TIME. SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.

>> UNTIL THE NEXT ONE. MR. HENNESSEY.

WELCOME.

>> HELLO. BILL HENNESSEY 5461 W. FOURTH STREET SAINT AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. [INDISCERNIBLE] SUBDIVISION.

I AM HERE AGAIN ABOUT THE BOAT RAMP AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE DRAGGING YOUR FEET TRYING TO GET IT BACK TO HER THE COMMUNITY CAN USE IT RIGHT NOW IT HAS BEEN DIVVIED UP BETWEEN THE HOA AND ? ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY DID HAVE THEM REMOVE THE LANDSCAPE BRICKS WITH THEIR STILL NO PARKING SIGNS AND WE USED TO HAVE 70 FEET OF TURNING RADIUS PRONOUNCED DOWN TO 25 OR 30 DEPENDING ON A GARBAGE CAN ONLY SIGN OR A MAILBOX. FOR SOMEBODY IS OVER THERE WORKING AT THEIR HOUSE AND THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE NO PARKING SIGNS BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY OWN IT DOWN THERE.

SO I STARTED USING THE PALMETTO ROAD PARK WEST RAMP AND IT SLAPPED FULL. IT'S PACKED EVERY WEEKEND.

AND THE THING IS, I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY BECAUSE I AM TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE BOAT RAMP. I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GET ON.

[INDISCERNIBLE] WHICH IS TOTALLY INSANE.

BUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE STREET, THINK THEY OWN THAT BOAT RAMP, AND THEY DON'T. HIS COUNTY PROPERTY.

THIS BUTLER PARK NORTH. HE PAID FOR THAT PROPERTY.

NOW IT LOOKS LIKE A PLACE FOR THE UNLOAD SLAVE SHIPS.THEY HAVE FOUR BY SIX PILINGS, LINED UP AND YOU CAN'T GET TO THE DOCTOR WHEN YOU DO GO TO THE DOCK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT RELIGIOUS STUFF WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE PASSED AWAY FROM SUNSET LANDING. I GO THERE TO CRAB AND FISH AND SHRIMP AND READ BOOKS. IT SUDDENLY TURNED INTO IT GOT PRIVATIZED BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED ON THE END OF THE STREET AND I HAVE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY COUNTY AGENCY YOU CAN GO TO MR. MCCORMICK'S OFFICE TO SET UP THE MEETING WITH RESIDENTS IN THE REC DEPARTMENT WITH TWO PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND IT GOT WORSE AFTER THE MEETING. AND IT CONTINUES TO GET WORSE.

THE THING ABOUT GREED, IT SPREADS EASY AND IF YOU DON'T STOP IT, THERE'S NO STOPPING IT.

IF HE DID IT, I CAN DO IT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE AND WHAT IT DID, AND LED ME TO HAVE TO GO TO A SLAM PACKED BOAT RAMP. WHERE SOME PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO PULL OUT OF THE WAY SO THE PEOPLE COULD GET IN AND OUT.

I ASKED PEOPLE IF THEY COULD MOVE SO I COULD GET MY BOAT IN A PEOPLE COULD GET OUT. AND

>> THANK YOU MR. HENNESSEY.

>> YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO THE ATTORNEYS.

MR. HENNESSEY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I HEAR YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC,?

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> >> YOU KNOW WE ONLY GIVE THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. IF WE GIVE YOU MORE WE HAVE TO GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY ELSE. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

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>> BJ. [INDISCERNIBLE] I MISSED THIS LAST TIME BUT I CAN'T BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONE TIME.

LET ME THANK EVERYONE FOR VOTING ON AUGUST 23.

THE NUMBER 17 FIVE ? 175 IS VERY INTERESTING ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INVOLVES BOATS. 175.

THE NUMBER SEVEN WAS ALSO VERY INTERESTING A FEW YEARS AGO.

NUMBER SEVEN. IT'S TIME TO RETURN SOMETHING TO TAXPAYERS WHO ARE DEALING WITH INFLATION.

THE GENERAL FUND RATE SHOULD BE ROLLED BACK TO 4.1201.

[INDISCERNIBLE] NOT STAYING UNTIL 5 PM NOTHING PERSONAL TO PUSH FOR A SALES TAX WITH A BUDGET OF OVER 1.55 BIL L IOAN BILLION DOLLARS. IT IS LUDICROUS.

VOTE NO SALES TAX INCREASE ON NOVEMBER 8. AND OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU MISSED HEARING THIS. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BELONGS OF THE BEGINNING OF THESE MEETINGS.

ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER. PERSISTENT.

[Commissioners’ Reports]

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC,? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THAT TAKES US TO COMMISSIONER REPORTS.

>> >> PAUL.

ARE YOU WITH US?

>> YES MR. CHAIRMAN I JUST WANT TO TELL EVERYONE THANK YOU FOR THEIR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU ALL AND. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> I AM GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BY PHONE.

BEST OF LUCK WE ARE ALL THINKING OF YOU AND WISHING YOU THE BEST.

>> THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO TELL STAFF THANK YOU FOR DOING A GOOD JOB TODAY AND I WANT TO MAKE A CLARITY FOR MR. [INDISCERNIBLE] I WAS CHAIRMAN WHEN WE DECIDED NOT TO HAVE STAFF PRESENTATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPERS STAFF IS THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THEY ACTUALLY ? PERTINENT INFORMATION OF THE AGENDA PACKET AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. IT WASN'T MR. HUNTER IT WASN'T THERE WHEN WE MADE THAT CHANGE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS.

>> TODAY I WANT TO BRING UP A PROJECT THAT IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO ME BUT SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY AND CRUCIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE VILLAGE OF WEST AUGUSTINE IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT WILL ADD 90 TO MUCH NEEDED UNISON HOUSEHOLDS WAS 16 PERCENT AMI.N LIGHT OF THE RISING COST OF CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT FACES A GAP AND I WOULD LIKE TO HOPEFULLY GET BOARD CONSENSUS THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE STAFF TO BRING US MORE INFORMATION SO WE CAN INSIST ON BRIDGING THAT GAP.

THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT AND TOO CRUCIAL TO WEST AUGUSTINE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THAT I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> THAT'S IT.

>> I HAVE A BRIEF ITEM. EACH YEAR THE CHAIRMAN DOES A REVIEW. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> >> I HAVE BEEN IN A POSITION

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>> COMMISSIONER. JUST AS A CLARIFICATION.

>> I WILL INCLUDE YOU.

[County Administrator’s Report]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THEY ARE DOING THE THREE PERCENT PLUS DOLLARS 50 FOR GENERAL EMPLOYEES

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