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>> WELCOME TO OUR MAY 17TH, BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY COUNTY, IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE SO MANY CITIZENS TURN OUT, IT SHOWS HOW INTERESTED AND INVOLVED SO MANY OF YOU ARE IN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTY WE'LL FIRST HAVE THE ROLL CALL BY THE CLERK.
>> CHAIR COMMISSIONER HENRY DEAN?
>> PRESENT. >> VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONER,
CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST? >> PRESENT.
>> COMMISSION SARAH ARNOLD? >> PRESENT.
>> COMMISSION PAUL WALDRON? >> PRESENT.
>> COMMISSION JEREMIAH BLOCKER?
>> PRESENT. >> WE HAVE A FORUM, AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY PERFECT ATTENDANCE. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO START. WE'RE NOW GOING TO DO WHAT WE DO AT EVERY MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN WITH AN INVOCATION BY PASTOR MATT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JOHN MOUNTCASTLE GIVE THE PLEDGE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US.
>> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRAY AND I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC THAT THE BOARD INVITES PASTORS TO COME PRAY BEFORE EVERY MEETING. I WANTED TO SHARE FROM THE SCRIPTURE THAT I SHARED FROM SUNDAY WHICH IS MATTHEW SIX, IT SAYS, THEREFORE DO NOT BE ANXIOUS, WHAT SHALL WE EAT, DRINK AND WHAT SHALL WE WEAR. AND YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER KNOWS YOU NEED THEM ALL, BUT SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESSIOUS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL BE ADDED TO YOU. FATHER WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING TODAY AND LORD WE GIVE YOU THANKS AND WE CHOOSE TODAY TO SEEK YOU FIRST AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING WE CHOOSE TO LOOK TO YOU, AND ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND COUNSEL AND WISDOM. AND WE PRAY FOR THE FAMILY OF STAFF SERGEANT WHO LOST HIS LIFE THIS WEEK. IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
>> AND NOW, THE PLEDGE. >> BEFORE WE JOINTLY RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCIOUS I ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN MEMORY OF STAFF SERGEANT MICHAEL PLANT U.S.
ARMY WHO LOST HIS LIFE IN ALASKA WHEN HE WAS MAULED BOY A BEAR PROTECTING HER CUBS. SERGEANT PLANT WAS A RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND ON BEHALF OF THE VETERAN'S COUNCIL AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE LOCAL VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS. WE EXTEND OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY. LET US PLEDGE, JOINTLY, OUR PLEDGE OF FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL."
[Proclamation Recognizing May 2022 as National Foster Care Month ]
>> THANK YOU, SIR, PLEASE BE SEATED. WE'RE STARTING WITH PROCLAMATIONS THIS MORNING. AND THE FIRST PROCLAMATION IS RECOGNIZING NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH AND I LEAVE THAT COMMISSION WERE ARNOLD WILL BE PRESENTING THAT. COMMISSIONER?
>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, QUITE A CROWD, TODAY I'M ISSUING A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING MAY 2022 AS NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH. IF CATHY KELLY, SHANNON NOVAK AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE FOSTER CARE ASSOCIATION AND GUA GUARD GUARDIAN ADD ADLITUM WILL COME UP AND JOIN ME.
>> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA WHEREAS THE FAMILY IS THE FOUNDER OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND SERVES AS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF LOVE, EYE DEBTY, SELF-ESTEEM AND SUPPORT. WHEREAS ALL YOUNG PEOPLE IN FOSTER CARE NEED A MEANINGFUL CONNECTION FROM A CARING ADULT WHO BECOMES A SUPPORTING AND LASTING PRESENCE IN THEIR LIVES.
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AND WHEREAS ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS MANY FOSTER FAMILIES THAT PROVIDE CHILDREN AND YOUTH WITH STAVE AND STABLE HOMES. AND WHEREAS FOSTER KINSHIP AND ADOPTIVE FAMILIES WHO OPEN THEIR HOMES AND HEARTS AND SUPPORT CHILDREN WHOSE FAMILIES ARE IN CRISIS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN HELPING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES HEAL AND RECONNECT, THERE BY LAUNCHING YOUNG PEOPLE INTO SUCCESSFUL ADULTHOOD. WHEREAS THERE ARE NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS TO WORK TO INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF FOSTER CHILDREN IN AND LEAVING FOSTER CARE AS WELL AS THE ENDURING CONTRIBUTION OF FOSTER PARENTS. AND WHEREAS FOSTER CARE MONTH PROVIDES A SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE ROLE THAT FOSTER CARE PLACE IN THE LIVES OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT MAY, 2022, BE DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL FOSTER CARE MONTH, PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THIS 17TH DAY OF MAY, 2022, SIGNED BRANDON J PATTY, CLERK OF COURTS AND BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS HENRY DEAN.>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING. YOU'RE DOING THE LORD'S WORK. SO, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PROCLAMATION.
>> (APPLAUSE) >> MY NAME IS CATHY KELLY AND IT'S COOL THAT I'M SPEAKING TODAY BECAUSE THIS MARKS 10 YEARS SINCE WE TOOK IN OUR FIRST FOSTER CHILD.
I'LL NEVER FORGET WHEN I MET HIM, HE WAS A LITTLE GUY WITH THESE BIG, THICK GLASSES ON. AND HE WALKS IN IN A JOHN CINA T-SHIRT. AND HE SAID THIS IS A REALLY SPECIAL MOMENT AND I WANTED TO WEAR MY FAVORITE SHIRT AND A HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUTTON BECAUSE I GOT TO MEET YOU GUYS. 10 YEARS LATER, THAT LITTLE KID IS MY SON, HE'S GRADUATING FROM ST. JOHNS HIGH SCHOOL. AND HE'S GOING
INTO NURSING IN THE FALL. >> (APPLAUSE).
>> OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE HAD AROUND 45 PLUS KIDS COME THROUGH OUR HOME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NEVER, WHEN I FIRST STARTED GOING THROUGH THIS, I THOUGHT, I CAN NEVER FOSTER AND THEN GIVE THEM BACK.
AND THAT WAS SO WRONG. WHEN WE HAVE REALIZED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS IS THAT WE REALLY WANT THE BIO FAMILIES TO GET THEM BACK. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CHEER THEM ON.
THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO BACK TO THEIR BIOPARENTS AND ARE DOING WELL. AND WE'VE ADOPTED SIX OF THE KIDS WHO COULD NOT GO BACK TO THEIR PARENTS AND WE HAVE LOVED THEM AS OUR OWN. SO, I APPRECIATE IT, THERE'S SO MANY FOSTER PARENTS IN THIS COUNTY AND THEY'RE HIDDEN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIDS ARE FOSTER KIDS AND WHAT ARE PARENTS ARE FOSTER PARENTS.
I KNOW THAT THEY WORK AROUND THE CLOCK. THESE GUYS AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY GIVE TO CHILDREN AND FOSTER FAMILIES ARE AMAZING. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS SET ASIDE THIS MONTH TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
>> (APPLAUSE). >> AT THIS TIME I WOULD
[Proclamation Recognizing May 2022 as National Drug Court Month ]
LIKE TO INVITE JUDGE ALEXANDERER CHRISTINI TO THEFLOOR. >> AND WHILE THEY'RE COMING DOWN, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LORENA READ THE PROCLAMATION
INTO THE RECORD. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS 2022 MARKS THE 32ND ANNIVERSARY OF EXCUSE ME, THE 33RD ANNIVERSARY OF TREATMENT COURTS IN THE NATION OF WHICH MIAMI-DADE DRUG COURT WAS THE FIRST COURT THAT SPARKED THE NATIONAL REVOLUTION THAT
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CHANGED THE FACE OF THE AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.WHEREAS FOR THE PAST 33 YEARS, DRUG COURTS HAVE SERVED 1.5 MILLION INDIVIDUALS, RESTORED LIVES, REUNITED FAMILIES AND MADE COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS NATION SAFER. AND WHEREAS DRUG COURTS ARE NOW RCOGNIZED AS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL CRIMINAL JUSTICE INTERVENTION IN THE NATION'S HISTORY. AND WHEREAS 75 PERCENT OF TREATMENT COURT GRADUATES WILL NEVER SEE ANOTHER PAIR OF HAND CUFFS AND AN AVERAGE OF $6,000 IS SAVED FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL SERVED. WHEREAS TREATMENT COURTS IMPROVE, EDUCATION, HOUSING, PROMOTE FAMILY REUNIFICATION, REDUCE FOSTER CARE PLACEMENTS, AND INCREASED THE RATES OF BABIES BORN DRUG FREE.
WHEREAS THERE ARE NOW DRUG COURTS NATIONWIDE AND DRUG COURTS DEMONSTRATES THAT WHEN ONE PERSON RISES OUT OF DRUGS AND CRIME, WE ALL RISE. WHEREAS THE TIME HAS COME TO PUT A DRUG COURT IN REACH OF EVERY PERSON IN NEED. BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT MAY, 2022 BE DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL DRUG COURT MONTH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, URGING CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE PRACTITIONERS AND PARTICIPANTS TO WORK TO SUSTAIN DRUG COURTS IN OUR COUNTY ADD THE SIGNIFICANCE THAT DRUG COURTS MAKE. THIS 17TH DAY OF MAY, 2022, SIGNED BRANDON J PATTY CLERK OF COURTS, SIGNED BY CHAIR, HENRY DEAN.
>> THE WORK OF DRUG COURTS CAN REALLY BE THE STEP BACK TO RECOVERY FOR SO MANY PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS AND ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT TOUCHES ALL COMMUNITIES REGARDLESS OF BACKGROUND AND SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU, AND YOUR STAFF FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT YOU DO FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
(APPLAUSE) >> FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER, EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST RECITED TO YOU IT TRUE ABOUT DRUG COURT. WE'VE HAD THE DRUG COURT NOW, FOR THE 20TH YEAR FOR DRUG COURT, RIGHT? AND THIS COUNTY COMMISSION HAS BEEN 100% SUPPORTIVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND IT'S REALLY CHANGING LIVES. THE WAY IT WORKS IS IT'S A JUDICIALLY LED PROGRAM FOR NON-VIOLENT FELONY OFFENDERS WHO ARE DRUG ADDICTED. THESE ARE NOT WEEKEND POT SMOKERS, THESE RAH HIGHLY ADDICTED, MULTIPLE FELONY OFFENDERS, USUALLY HEADED FOR THE STATE P PEN TENTORY. IT'S A PLACE WHERE THEY COME BEFORE PRISON, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE HEADED. IF THEY QUALIFY AND WANT TO COME INTO DRUG COURT, WE TAKE THEM INTO DRUG COURT. NOW, THEY COME TO COURT WEEKLY, THEY GET COUNSELLING AND GO TO AAS, AND NAS, THEY GET RANDOMLY AND OFTEN DRUG TESTED. AND WHEN THEY MESS UP, THE SANCTIONS ARE SWIFT, THEY'RE FIRM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF POSITIVE REENFORCEMENT. WE MIGHT GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE JAIL BUT THEN MORE COUNSELLING, MORE INTERVENTION AND MORE TRAINING. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, EVENTUALLY, IF WE KEEP THEM SOBER LONG ENOUGH, THEY CAN LEARN TO SOAK IN HOW TO MAINTAIN A DRUG-FREE LIFE.
THE RESULT (INAUDIBLE) >> THEY WERE HEADING TO PRISON FOR 77 (INAUDIBLE) (INAUDIBLE)
(INDISCERNIBLE) >> RECIDIVISM WHEN THEY COME OUT OF DRUG COURT, LESS THAN 17%. SO, WE'RE CHANGING, LITERALLY SAVING LIVES AND CHANGING LIVES AS MOTHERS, DAUGHTERS, FATHERS, SONS, BROTHERS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION TORE ALL THE SUPPORT AND THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN AWESOME. (APPLAUSE)
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>> (INAUDIBLE) >> AT THIS TIME, I WOULD
[Proclamation Recognizing May 15-21, 2022 as National EMS Week]
LIKE TO INVITE CHIEF TO RECOGNIZE (INAUDIBLE)>> A PROCLAMATION, ENERGY MEDICAL AS FAR ASS ARE A VITAL PUBLIC SERVICE AND WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES TEAMS ARE READY TO PROVIDE LIFE SAVING CARE TO THOSE IN NEED 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK. WHEREAS ACCESS TO QUALITY EMERGENCY CARE DRAMATICALLY IMPROVES THE SURVIVAL AND RECOVERY RATE OF THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE SUDDEN ILLNESS OR INJURY, AND WHEREAS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES HAVE GROWN TO FILL A GAP BY PROVIDING IMPORTANT OUT OF HOSPITAL CARE INCLUDING PREVENTIVE MEDICINE, FOLLOWUP CARE AND ACCESS TO TELEMEDICINE. AND WHEREAS THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE CONSISTS OF FIRST RESPONDERS, PARAMEDICS, EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHERS, FIRE-FIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS, PREHOSPITAL NURSES, EMERGENCY NURSES, EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS, TRAINED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND OTHER OUT OF HOSPITAL MEDICAL CARE PROVIDERS. AND WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF EMERGENCY MEMBER SERVICES TEAMS WHETHER CAREER OR VOLUNTEER ENGAGE OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF SPECIALIZED TRAINING AND CONTINUING EDUCATION TO ENHANCE THEIR LIFE SAVING SKILLS. WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S TEAM, EMS, RISING TO THE CHALLENGE IS PARTICULARLY MEANINGFUL, NOW TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT EVERYDAY EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE FACED WITH SO MANY NEW CHALLENGES AND YET STILL RISE ABOVE AND CONTINUE TO RESPOND, SUPPORT, AND CARE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IS PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT THE WEEK OF MAY 15TH-MAY 21, 2022, BE DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL EMS WEEK. PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA THIS 17TH DAY OF MAY, 2022, SIGNED BRANDON J PATTY CLERK OF COURTS AND BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS CHAIR HENRY DEAN.
>> (INAUDIBLE) >> (APPLAUSE) GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND PROCLAMATION. WE TREAT MULTIPLE MEDICAL CALLS A DAY, ACCIDENTS, HEART ATTACKS, STROKES, AND THIS ONE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT'S RISING TO THE OCCASION. TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, MY STAFF AND I TRIED TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELES INTERNALLY AND WORKED TO PARTNERSHIP WORKING WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, RAN A TESTING SITE FOR COVID FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND WHEN THE VACCINE BECAME AVAILABLE, WE PARTNERED WITH EMS AND GOT COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND OPENED A VACCINE POD THAT VACCINATED OVER 100,000 PEOPLE IN THE COURSE OF THAT 6-MONTH PERIOD. AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT THE MEN AND WOMEN STANDING BEHIND ME AND THE MEN AND WOMEN YOU SEE ON THE STREET EVERYDAY, IF YOU GET A CHANCE AND SEE ONE OF THEM, SAY THANK YOU, BECAUSE THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB. THANK
>> (APPLAUSE) >> WELL, THOSE WERE THREE
[Acceptance of Proclamations ]
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROGRAMS WE HONORED THIS MORNING WITH THOSE PROCLAMATIONS, AND EVERYONE WAS IMPRESSED AND WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR HANDLING THE PROCLAMATIONS.IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS?
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
>> EVERYONE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE.
[Public Safety Update]
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>> EVERYONE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
>> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, OKAY. WE'RE NOW READY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REPORT. PUBLIC SAFETY, WHOSE GOING
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, I HOPE EVERYBODY'S HAVING A GREAT WEEK. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL WEEK AND WE'RE HAVING GREAT WEATHER AND ENJOYING A BEAUTIFUL LIFE IN STOIBLG. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH CIVIL UNREST NATIONALLY, I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY SAW SOME OF THE TRAGIC EVENTS THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND. AS A RESULT, WE HAVE NO INTELLIGENCE THAT ANYTHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE BUT WE WANT TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE AS ALWAYS. WE'RE STEPPING UP PATROLS IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE LARGE GATHERINGS, WALKING THROUGH GROCERY STORES, AND DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, WE BELIEVE IN BEING PREPARED. WE WANT YOU TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THE THINGS HAPPENING NATIONALLY AND WE'RE STEPPING UP TO TRY AND PREVENT ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US?
>> IF NOT, Y'ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEK.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, I WANT TO TAKE QUICK MOMENT TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU THIS MORNING.
LAST MONDAY WE HELD A MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR GERALD HOPPER WHICH WAS ATTENDED BY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE I THANK THE BOARD FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR SUPPORT. IT WAS FANTASTIC IN SAYING GOODBYE TO A FRIEND. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, CHIEF FROM THE JACKSONVILLE FIRE AND RESCUE, THEY BOTH REACHED OUT TO ME VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND OFFERED ANY HELP THEY COULD DO. AND WITH THEIR HELP, THEY WERE ABLE TO BACK FILL AND STAFF THE FOUR STATIONS TO GET IT WORKED OUT DURING HIS CAREER WITH US. WHICH WAS FANTASTIC FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND GARRETT FOR HIS CAREER TO SAY GOODBYE. AND EVEN THE CHIEF RAN A FIRE TRUCK AT STATION ONE WHERE GARRETT WAS ASSIGNED. THANK YOU FOR
[Clerk of Court's Report]
EVERYBODY BUT ESPECIALLY THANK YOU TO KEITH ANDCARLOS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> (APPLAUSE). >> BRANDON, YES, SIR, GOOD
MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THE CLERK'S FUNCTION ON AUDITING, THE CLERK'S FUNCTION IS CHARGED TO SERVE AS THE AUDITOR OF FUNDS.
THE INSPECTOR GENERAL WORKS CLOSELY WITH SCANT ADMIN AND IDENTIFYING COUNTY IDENTITIES TO BE AUDITED.
GOVERNMENT. THREE AUDITS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR, ONCE THE AUDITS ARE COMPLETED THE FINDINGS WILL BE DISSEMINATED TO YOU. OUR IDEA IS WORKING ON NEXT YEAR'S PLAN OVER THE SUMMER.
THAT'S MY REPORT, PENDING ANY QUESTIONS.
>> QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> PLEASURE, THANK YOU. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. WAIT A MINUTE, PAUL, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
>> IT WASN'T A QUESTION, NO, BRANDON, YOU'RE FINE, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE YOUNG MAN, AND I DIDN'T GET HIS NAME, I SAW HIM COME IN WEARING HIS BOY'S SCOUT UNIFORM PLEASE, STAND UP. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HIM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR SPENDING THE DAY WITH US,
[Deletions to Consent Agenda]
I'M SURE IT'S TO GET A BADGE BUT I'M SURE HE'LL LEARN SOMETHING AND GET INVOLVED IN THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS FINE COUNTY AND COUNTRY THAT WE LIVE IN.>> OKAY, THAT TAKES US TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY DELETIONS OR ADDITIONS
TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE
LEGAL TO DEAL WITH. DAVID? >> YES, MR. CHAIR, WE WOULD LIKE TO PULL CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 FROM THE
>> IS THAT IT? >> THAT'S ALL FOR ME.
>> IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ONLY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, NOTHING ELSE? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH ITEM FIVE BEING WITH DRAWN? OKAY. NO PUBLIC COMMENT MR. WHITEHURST, SO WE'LL
ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE
CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
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>> IS OUR MACHINE UP AND RUNNING YET?
[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda ]
>> LET'S DO A VERBAL, EVERYONE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
>> THAT PASSES 5-0. THAT TAKES CARE OF CONSENT AGENDA AND NOW WE'RE READY TO GO TO THE ADDITIONS, DELETIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. SO, WE'RE TAKING UP THE REGULAR AGENDA AGENDA. AND ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS,
>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> NONE.
>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> NONE MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> MR. BLOCKER? >> NONE MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> LEGAL? >> YES, SIR, WE HAVE TWO MATTERS FOR THE REGULAR AGENDA. FIRST THERE'S THE RED FOLDER GIVEN TO YOU, A BID AWARD THAT NEEDS TO GO ON TODAY'S AGENDA. SO, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ADD THAT ITEM TO THE AGENDA. AND ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS A MATTER ORIGINALLY REQUESTED TO BE WITHDRAWN AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BEING RESCINDED AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY TO GIVE YOU
A BRIEFING. >> BEFORE THAT, ITEM NINE, I'VE ADDED IT TO THE REGULAR AGENDA AS ITEM NINE. WHAT'S
[4. Public Hearing * PUD21-09 Bacon Storage (Brinkhoff Rd).]
THE SUBJECT? >> IT'S RAYSY POINT BRIDGE
BID AWARD. >> GOOD MORNING, SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY, REGARDING ITEM 4, THE VACANT STORAGE BID REQUEST. LAST WEEK WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT THE APPLICANT INTENDED TO WITHDRAW, LATE YESTERDAY WE RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT SEEMS LIKE THE APPLICANT IS RESCINDING THAT AND PERHAPS REQUESTING FOR A CONTINUANCE IF MR. BACON IS HERE, I WOULD ASK THAT HE COME FORWARD AND CLARIFY HIS
REQUEST. >> OKAY. IS MR. BACON WITH
BACON, 1700 WILDWOOD DRIVE. >> MR. BACON IS YOUR INTENT TO REQUEST A WITHDRAWAL OR A CONTINUANCE?
>> I WOULD LIKE A CON CONTINUANCE WITH A NEW HEARING IN THE NEXT GO AROUND IN JUNE.
>> THANK YOU. >> SO, THE BOARD CAN ENTERTAIN THAT REQUEST TO REMOVE THAT ITEM FROM THE AGENDA TODAY AND CONTINUE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN TO EITHER THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN JUNE.
>> OKAY. I THINK, LET'S SEE IF WE COULD TAKE THIS MATTER UP AND RULE ON IT TODAY, NOW. AND THAT WAY IT WILL EXPEDITE IT. M MR. BACON, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
>> NO, LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY. IF I COULD GET THREE OF YOU TO VOTE THE PROJECT APPROVED AS PLANNED, WE HAVE A NO-BRAINER AND I GO BUILD MY PROJECT. BUT IF I DON'T GET THE VOTES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A FLORIDA STATUTE THAT SAYS THE PROJECT CAN NO LONGER BE TOUCHED FOR REZONING PURPOSES FOR A PERIOD OF A YEAR. I WAS HOPING LEGAL CAN TOUCH ON
THAT. >> SURE, THAT'S A BOARD POLICY THAT IF THE REZONING IS DENIED, THEN A REAPPLICATION CANNOT BE ACCEPTED WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR UNLESS THE BOARD WAVES THAT TIME LIMITATION.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE ITEM FOUR, THE BACON STORAGE TO JUNE 7TH OR OMMENT, ANYONE HERE TO IC SPEAK ON BACON STORAGE AND WISH TO OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? IS
>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE APPLICANTS REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE TO A JUNE MEETING. ANYBODY HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT
ON THIS ITEM. >> OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THIS CONTINUED TO THE JUNE 7TH MEETING.
>> OKAY, IS THERE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND IT.
>> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE
VOTE. >> THE VOTE IS 3-2 TO MOVE
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THIS TO JUNE 7TH. >> IS THAT FOR THE RECORD CLEAR, BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON MY MACHINE IS NOT WORKING. OKAY, SO, THE VOTE IS 3 YES, AND TWO NOS, SO IT
[Approval of Regular Agenda]
PASSES. WE'LL SEE YOU JUNE 7TH. ALL RIGHT, THAT TAKES CARE OF ITEM 4. I BELIEVE WE'RE READY TO GO TOITEM 1 ON THE REGULAR. >> WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA AS AMENDED.
>> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA HAVING TAKEN CARE OF ITEM FOUR?
>> I'LL MOVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.
>> AND A SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE,
[ 1. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2021-10 SilverLeaf DRI, Adoption Hearing.]
SEE IF IT WORKS AGAIN. >> HEY, IT WORKED. OKAY.
AND 5-0. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE HAVE THE REGULAR AGENDA.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO ITEM 1, I BELIEVE. EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE? ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE UP ITEM ONE. IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM 1?
>> BEFORE YOU BEGIN, MS. SMITH, CHRISTINE, DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS I THINK FROM BOTH IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING LARGE GROUPS.
>> YES, WE HAVE ONE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE AND THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE APPLICANT AND I HAVE THAT LIST WHEN WE'RE READY TO GO
INTO PUBLIC SHARING. >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD
MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING. FOR THE RECORD, HE WILL ENAVERY SMITH RODGERS TOWERS IN LOVELY ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I HAVE THE MATERIAL PORTION OF THIS APPLICATION, I WANT TO GIVE YOU MEMBERS BUT ALSO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY BE NEW TO THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN THE LAST YEAR FOR SILVER LEAF, AS YOU KNOW AND SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE MAY NOT KNOW, SILVERLEAF IS CALLED A DRI, AND IT'S A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR PUD. SO, THERE ARE COMPANION APPLICATIONS FOR DRI AND PUD APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN DECEMBER. THE DRI PROVIDES DEVELOPMENT RIGHT IN EXCHANGE FOR CERTAIN MITIGATION FOR IMPACT IN THE DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS ROADS, UTILITIES, ENVIRONMENTAL AND OTHER ATTRIBUTES OF THE PROJECT. THAT DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS A BUILDOUT OVER 25 YEARS. SO THIS IS A LONG-TERM PROJECT THAT WILL CONSTRUCT ROADS, UTILITY LINES, PARKS, PRESERVE WETLANDS, PRESERVE HABITAT ALL OF THAT IN ONE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER. THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BOARD, ALREADY IN DECEMBER. ALSO, THE PUD WHICH PROVIDES DEVELOPMENT PARAMETERS ABOUT WHICH USES CAN GO IN WHICH PARCELS, SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHTS, ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BOARD IN DECEMBER FOR THIS LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. WE'RE ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, APPLICATION, FILED LAST YEAR IN 2021. IT'S THE SAME EXACT APPLICATION THAT WAS HEARD BY THIS BOARD IN DECEMBER OF 2022. THERE'S NOT BEEN ONE WORD IN THIS APPLICATION PACKAGE THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED. SO, I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. ALSO, THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE HAS IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME ONE WE GAVE BACK ON DECEMBER 21ST, WITH A COUPLE OF CAVEATS.
ONE, YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND WE HAVE SEEN IT'S THERE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, CERTAIN FOLKS IN THIS RAM AND ELSEWHERE SIGNED WITH THEIR NAMES AND ADDRESSES CERTAIN EMAILS TO YOU EITHER IN SUPPORT OR HAVING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN A UNANIMOUS POSTS AND FLIERS THAT ARE UNSIGNED, SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT SENT THEM, THAT PERTAIN MATERIAL OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT MISINFORMATION AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION WE HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL TAKE THAT MISINFORMATION AND THE FACT THAT THIS INFORMATION WAS SENT BY AN UNANIMOUS SOURCE AS WHETHER IT'S CREDIBLE, BUT HE'S FOR INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE UP THEIR MIND WHETHER THEY BELIEVE
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UNATTRIBUTED UNSIGNED DOCUMENTS SENT TO THEIR HOMES OR POSTED BY SOCIAL MEDIA. JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CULTURAL RESOURCES ASSESSMENT THAT'S DONE BY A CULTURAL RESOURCE ARES OR ARCHEOLOGIST. A LEGAL ANALYSIS OF THE CONSISTENCY OF THIS APPLICATION WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALL OF THAT MATERIAL WAS SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY LAST YEAR.YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF, AGAIN, LAWYERS, ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS WHO SIT ON THE COUNTY'S STAFF REVIEWED ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND GAVE COMMENTS BACK TO OUR TEAM AND OUR TEAM REVISED THOSE DOCUMENTS BASED ON STAFF COMMENTS. ONCE THE STAFF COMMENTS WERE ALL ADDRESSED, WE WENT TO HEARINGS, FIRST AT PLANNING AND ZONING IN DECEMBER AND THEN HERE, PZA RECOMMENDED APPROVAL YOUR BOARD APPROVED THAT APPLICATION BACK IN DECEMBER. WE HAVE MADE NO CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION DOCUMENTS SINCE YOUR HEARING IN DECEMBER. AND SO THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE WHAT IS IN THE RECORD BEFORE YOU TODAY. WE WERE AT PZA FOR A SECOND REHEARING AND WE'LL GO INTO WHERE WE'RE HERE FOR A REHEARING IN A MINUTE, BACK IN APRIL. AND THE PZA VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. SO, WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE LEGAL DUE PROCESS BASED ON, AGAIN, STAFF REVIEW BY YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF, ALL THE DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. THE STAFF REPORT IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AND SO WE PUT THAT INTO THE RECORD FOR YOU TODAY FOR THIS HEARING. SO, WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID, LET ME INTRODUCE OUR PROFESSIONAL TEAM BECAUSE WE CAN CALL ON THEM IF QUESTIONS COME UP FROM YOU OR MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME, I HAVE CODY HUDSON AND JOHN METCALF WHICH IS THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF SILVER LEAF. WE HAVE THE PROJECTS CIVIL ENGINEERS, RAY WHO IS A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER. AND JEFF PLANNER FROM ETM AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM WHO ARE IN THE BACK TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AS WE GO ALONG. LET'S GET STARTED ON THE REAL STUFF. THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE FOR A REHEARING HAS TO DO ESSENTIALLY WITH A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OR DEO ABOUT WETHER OR NOT A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT, WHICH IS WHY I MENTIONED TO YOU EARLIER, SILVERLEAF IS AN EXISTING DRI APPROVED. OUR VIEW AND THE COUNTY'S VIEW WAS THAT THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT THE EXISTING DRIS ARE EXEMPT FROM STATE COORDINATED REVIEW. SO, YOU APPROVED THIS APPLICATION BACK IN DECEMBER, IT WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE, THE STATE SAID WAIT, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH STATE COORDINATED REVIEW, SO YOUR MOTION AT THAT DECEMBER HEARING SAID IF THE STATE SAID YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH STATE COORDINATED REVIEW, THEN, STAFF SEND THE ENTIRE PACKAGE TO THE STATE FOR STATE COORDINATED REVIEW. YOUR STAFF DID THAT. IT WENT THROUGH STATE COORDINATED REVIEW, DEO WHICH MADE THE STINK ABOUT IT, HAD ZERO MATERIAL COMMENTS OF THIS APPLICATION AFTER THIS 60-DAY REVIEW.
SO, WE'RE REALLY HERE BECAUSE THE STATE WANTED REVIEW THAT IT MADE NO COMMENTS ON. YOU SEE ALL OF THE OTHER COMMENTS ON THE SCREEN. WE'VE ADDRESSED THE DOT COMMENT WITH REGARD TO THE STATE ROAD CONNECTER WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GET TO TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. SO, AGAIN, HERE'S THE EXACT SAME PRESENTATION WE GAVE IN DECEMBER. SO, YOU SEE THE EXISTING OUT LINE OF SILVERLEAF, AGAIN, AN 18-YEAR-OLD PROJECT. AND YOU SEE THE LAND, 2400 ACRES WHICH ARE BEING ADDED TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROJECT.
THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT CHANGES WHICH ADDS
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THE 2400 ACRES TO THE DRI, AND THE PUD, AND INCREASES THE OFFICE SQUARE FOOTAGE BY 250,000 SQUARE FEET AND INCREASES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, REVICES THE PHASING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT WITH BUILDOUT THROUGH 2027, SO IT ADDS THAT ADDITIONAL PHASE AT THE END AGAIN, A 25 YEAR BUILDOUT FOR THE PROJECT AND INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, AGAIN, PRESERVING MORE WETLANDS AND MORE OPEN SPACE, ALLOWS FOR SHALLOWER ENTER IMMEDIATE IRRIGATION AND IMPORTANTLY INCREASES THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION FOR REGIONAL ROADWAYS FROM 78 AND-A-HALF MILLION TO $108.7 MILLION.AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TWO NEW ROADS, THE STATE ROAD 13 CONNECTER AND THE SILVERLEAF DRIVE CONNECTION IN A MIAMI BEACH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION FOR THIS PROJECT. THE DETAILS OF THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION ARE IN THE ORDER AND HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BOARD. GOING TO SILVERLEAF, YOU SEE OUTLINED IN THE GREEN, THE EXISTING SILVERLEAF PROJECT AND IN THE YELLOW YOU SEE THE LAND BEING ADDED TO SILVERLEAF. THIS IS THE EXISTING MAP BEFORE THE ADDITIONAL LAND AND I KNOW THERE ARE FRIENDS FROM THE CASCADES WHO ARE IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AREA, PLEASE NOTE THIS LAND IS STILL PROPOSED FOR PRESERVATION IN THIS AREA. SO, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONG THE 210 CORRIDOR, THIS OUTER BELTWAY, RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS DEEDED TO DOT YEARS AGO.
AND DOT HAS STARTED THE CONSTRUCTION EFFORTS ON THE OUTER BELTWAY AND THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE DOT'S FUNDING LIST AND IT'S ON THE WAY. I KNOW THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. GOING TO THE ADDITIONAL LAND AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THESE PARCELS OF ADDITIONAL LAND BY NUMBER. 38 IS RIGHT HERE. AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT 39, WHICH GOES DOWN INTO THIS WHY AREA, PARCEL, 40, 41, AND 42 AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH REALTIME PRESENTATION. THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MA. AGAIN, PART OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE, AND IT'S 39 B IS RURAL COMMERCIAL. PARCEL 40, 41, AND 42 ARE ALL
RURAL. >> IF THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGES TAKE PARCELS 39 AND 39 A TO RESIDENTIAL C SIMILAR TO THE BODY OF SILVERLEAF THAT EXIST ON THE SIDES OF THESE TWO PARCELS ALREADY IT TAKES PARCEL 39 B TO REGULAR COMMERCIAL. AND TAKES 40 TO RESIDENTIAL C, BUT THERE'S A COMPANION TEXT POLICY THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH THE DETAILS OF IN JUST A MINUTE. THEN IT TAKES PARCELS 41 A AND B, AND WE'LL TELL YOU WHY THERE'S AN A AND B, AND PARCEL 42 TO RESIDENTIAL A TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA ALONG STATE ROAD 13. TO TALK ABOUT THE ACREAGES, PARCELS 38 AND 39 ARE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE WOLF TRACK. TROUT CREEK SOUTH, WHICH IS 40, 41. A AND B, GO TO FROM RURAL TO RESIDENTIAL C OR RESIDENTIAL A AND PARCEL 42 IS 248 ACRES AND GOES FROM RULE CULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL A. SO, I MENTIONED TO YOU, TEXT POLICIES, THIS IS WITH RESPECT TO PARCEL 40. SO, SORRY, I'M GOING BACK TO THIS AREA SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 16-A. THIS IS PARCEL C. AND SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONG HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD AND COLLIEYARD ROAD, THESE TEXT POLICIES
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ARE DESIGNED TO PROTECT PROPERTIES. DEVELOPMENT OF PARCEL 40 WILL NOT BE PERMITTED UNTIL THE EARLIER OF THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY OPENING TO TRAFFIC OR JANUARY 1, 2030, WHICHEVER FIRST OCCURS. SO, NO DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR ON THAT PROPERTY FOR PROBABLY EIGHT YEARS OR LONGER AND THAT'S THE EARLIEST. THAT'S THE TEXT POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROJECT IS IN THE FUTURE, THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT. LOTS ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGES WITHIN PARCEL 40 WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 1 HALF ACRE IN SIZE. LOTS WITHIN THE PORTIONS OF PARCEL 40 LOCATED ADJACENT TO HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD, BETWEEN PENNY BROOK LANE AND LOTS ADJACENT TO LAND LOCATED ALONG COLLIEYARD ROAD WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 100 FEET WIDE AND 200 FEET DEEP AND A MINIMUM OF 1 HALF ACRE AND EACH LOT WILL HAVE A DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT PROHIBITS THE OWNERS OF CLEARING THE VEGETATION IN THE OUTER WARD 15 FEET. THE OUTSIDE OF THE LOT ADJACENT TO THE REQUIRED EDGE. WE PLACED LAKES AND BERMUDAS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGES, GOING TO COMPATIBILITY AND SPECIFIC USES IN PARCEL 40 ARE SET FORTH IN THE PUD WHICH YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED. SILVERLEAF WILL NOT CONNECT TO HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD OR COLLIEYARD ROAD. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRES A 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE AROUND. THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE GREEN. THESE LOTS SHOWN IN PINK, HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM BY 100 BY 200 AND ONE HALF ACRE AND HAVE THE ADDITIONAL 15-FOOT BUFFER. AND THESE LOTS HERE THAT ARE IN THE TAN COLOR HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF 1 HALF ACRE IN SIZE. YOU SEE THESE COLOR CODED ON THE MAP AS YOU GO AROUND THE PERIMETER, THIS IS WHAT THE TEXT POLICY SAYS. THIS IS WHAT HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD WOULD LOOK LIKE. YOU HAVE THE 15 FOOT NO CLEAR AND 200 FOOT MINIMUM LOT DEPTH AND THE HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD AND THEN HOMES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. AND THIS SITE SPECIFIC TEXT POLICY DOES TO PARCELS 41-A, 41-B AND THESE ARE THE LOTS. THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR LOT OWNER HIS LAST NAME IS CONSIDYNE. LOTS ADJACENT TO DEVELOPMENT BY THESE THAT ARE OWNED BY A SPECIFIC COUPLE WILL HAVE A DEED RESTRICTION THAT P PROHIBITS THE CLEARING OF LOT VEGETATION. RESULTING IN A GROSS DENSITY OF 1 UNIT PER FIVE ACRES. THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OCCURS ON THE GROUND FOR LOTS OUT ON STATE ROAD 13 RIGHT NOW.PARCEL 41-B, AGAIN ON THE RIVERSIDE OF STATE ROAD 13 CANNOT INCLUDE MORE THAN 34 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND THOSE LOTS HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF 3 ACRES. LOTS WITHIN PARCEL 41-A WHICH IS ON THE NON-RIVER SIDE OF STATE ROAD 13 THAT ARE ADJACENT TO STATE ROAD 13 OR COLLIEYARD ROAD HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES. LOTS WITHIN PARCEL 42 WHICH IS ON THE NON-RIVER SIDE OF STATE ROAD 15. THIS IS ADJACENT TO STATE ROAD 15. WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD IN PROTECTIONS TO OWNERS, THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS SPECIFIC TEXT POLICY SERIES GETS PUT INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT'S BINDING ON THIS APPLICATION AND ON THIS PROPERTY. SO, JUST FOR THAT, FOR NUMBER 11, AND FOR NUMBER 12, NO NONRESIDENTIAL USES WILL B PERMITTED IN ANY OF THESE PARCELS EXCEPT
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F FOR. SO, TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AGAIN, HERE'S THE PROPERTY, YOU SEE AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AROUND IT WITH THE 15 FOOT UNDISTURBED BUFFER AS WELL. YOU SIGH THE PROTECTIONS, THIS IS MORE OF AN OLIVE COLOR TO SHOW YOU THE MINIMUM THREE ACRE LOTS AND WE'LL GO INTO THAT ON THE NEXT. AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, SEE THESE LAKESES, WE MENTIONED THAT LAKES AND BERMS WILL BE ADJACENT AND YOU'LL SEE THE OLIVE COLOR IS MINIMUM THREE ACRE LOTS, SO ALL OF THESE ARE MINIMUM THREE AND THE LIGHTER COLOR TAN ARE MINIMUM ONE ACRE LOTS AND THIS WAS DONE FOR COMPATIBILITY REASONS. AND I WANT TO NOTE ALONG STATE ROAD 13 THERE'S A REQUIRED SCENIC EDGE OF 75-FEET REQUIRED NOT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THAT WILL BE ADHERED TO. SO, HERE'S THE OVER ALL CONTENT PLAN FOR SILVERLEAF, HERE'S THE LAYERS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS FOR THEM. AND THEY GET RECORDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO THEY'RE BIPNDING ON THE PROPERTY. WITH RESPECT TO THE REGIONAL ROADWAY WORK. SILVERLEAF SPENT 7 D D THIS IS AT THE TIME FOR IN THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER APPROVED BY THE BOARD THAT THE PROJECT WILL SPEND ANOTHER, ALMOST $22 MILLION ON THE STATE ROAD 13 CONNECTER WHICH IS THIS ROAD HERE. AND THEN ANOTHER $43.5 MILLION ON THE SILVERLEAF LAKE DRIVE EXTENSION. SO, AGAIN, THAT PROVIDES REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT ROADWAY NETWORK TO GET TRAFFIC RELOW HE HAVE FROM STATE ROAD 13 COME UP THIS WAY, GO ACROSS COUNTY ROAD 16-A AND UP INTO SILVERLEAF AND GO ON THE LOOP ROAD TO GET ON HIGHWAY 29 OR THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. YOU SEE, $143.8 MILLION IN TRAFFIC MITIGATION. I DO NEED TO MENTION THAT SILVERLEAF BUILT THE BLUE ROAD UP FRONT BEFORE ANY USES WERE PUT UP THERE. THE SILVERLEAF DRIVE EXTENSION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, AS IS THIS NORTHERN PORTION. STATE ROAD 14 CONNECTER WHICH IS UP TO THE SILVERLEAF DRIVE EXTENSION THAT IS ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. WE CAN NOT BUILD THIS SECTION OF THE STATE ROAD 13 EQUITY CONNECTER BECAUSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT POLICY THAT RELATES TO PARCEL 40 THAT SAYS THAT THAT PROPERTY WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED UNTIL THE EARLIER OF JANUARY 1, 2030, OR THE OPENING OF THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. DOT DESPERATELY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS ROAD NOW, BUT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE'VE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY CAN MULTIPLE TIMES AND WE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS, IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND WE DID MAKE THE PROMISE TO THESE FOLKS WHO LIVE NEAR PARCEL 40 THAT THAT PARCEL WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED FOR SOME PERIOD OF YEARS. JUST TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING ROADS UP FRONT. COUNTY ROAD 2209, YOU SEE HERE, YOU SEE THE SILVERLEAF DRIVE EXTENSION, ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO THIS ROAD IS BEING BUILT NOW. NOT LATER. JUST TO MAKE THAT POINT. AND ALSO, SEE, THIS IS ANOTHER SLIDE OF SILVERLEAF DRIVE YOU SEE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW AND WILL BE OPEN BEFORE THE FIRST UNITS IN THIS AREA OF THE PROJECT INCLUDING PARCELS 38 AND 39 ARE READY TO GO. AND THEN YOU SEE AGAIN, SILVERLEAF UNDER[00:55:04]
CONSTRUCTION. AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT BUILT OF ROADS UP FRONT IS SILVERLEAF. WE ALL KNOW 2209 WAS BUILT UP FRONT AND THIS SHOWS YOU THE SILVERLEAF DRIVE EXTENSION AND THE NORTH PART OF THE STATE ROAD 13 CONNECTER ARE BEING BUILT UP FRONT. AND AGAIN, THE SUMMARY OF THE BENEFITS, INCREASES TO THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK FOR 6.2 MILES OF NEW ROADS. NONRESIDENTIAL SPACE WILL BE ADDED AN ESTIMATED $7 MILLION ANNUALLY OF ADD DEV AD VALOREM TAX REVENUES. THIS IS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING CHOICES IN THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY. MULTIUSE PASS WHICH CAN BE USED FOR RUNNING AND BIKING WILL BE BUILT ALONG, THEY ALREADY EXIST ALONG 2209 AND WILL BE BUILT ALONG THE SILVERLEAF DRIVE CONNECTER AND THE STATE ROAD 13 CONNECTER THAT WILL PROVIDE INTERCONNECTIVITY ATHE WAY THROUGH IF THE COUNTY SO DESIRES. THERE ARE PRESERVATION OF 4800 ACRES OF LAND THAT BUILD OUT AND THE LOW INTENSITY AREA WILL PRESERVE THAT RURAL VIEW ALONG THE HIGHWAY.SILVERLEAF WILL GOING TO PARKS, SILVERLEAF IS ALREADY DEDICATED A 40-ACRE PARK CITE AND GOT PARK IMPACT FEE CREDITS IN THE VALUE OF $1.8 MILLION. THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER SAYS THOSE PARK IMPACT FEE CREDITED CANNOT BE USED FOR THE FIRST 2,000 HOMES IN SILVERLEAF.
IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER BUT THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT. SO, THE AVERAGE PARK IMPACT SEE OF $1,500 PER UNIT, THIS IS GENERALIZED BECAUSE IMPACT FEES ARE BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH UNIT. THE AVERAGE IS $1,500 A UNIT FOR THE FIRST 2,000 HOMES IS $3 MILLION, THE COUNTY WILL BE GETTING IMPACT FEE CREDIT MONEY TO START IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT 40-ACRE PARK SITE.
AFTER THE IMPACT FEE CREDITS ARE USED THEN YOU'RE GETTING ANOTHER 13,700 UNITIES SOMETIMES 1500 UNITS S $2,800 MORE IN PARK IMPACT FEES IN THE CASH THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE GETTING FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SILVERLEAF PARK OR ANY OTHER PARK YOU SO DESIRE. IF YOU ADD ALL OF THIS MONEY TOGETHER, THE COUNTY IS GETTING $23.5 MILLION IN CASH IN ADDITION TO THE 40 ACRES OF PARK LAND FOR SILVERLEAF PROVIDED BY SILVERLEAF ITSELF. NOBODY OUTSIDE OF SILVERLEAF.
>> AND SO, WITH THAT, I'M SORRY TO MAKE A LONG PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I COVERED EVERYTHING FOR YOU AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SINCE THERE'S SO MUCH PUBLIC INTEREST IN THIS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION AND CAN ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> ARE THERE ANY BOARD MEMBER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?
>> I HAVE ONE QUESTION, THEN, BECAUSE IT WAS YOUR
LAST DISCUSSION ON THE PARK. >> YES.
>> I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE CONTACT ME OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS PARK JUST FOR SILVERLEAF RESIDENTS OR IS IT AN OPEN, PUBLIC REGIONAL PARK, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND FROM SEVERAL COMMUNITY LEADERS IN THE NORTHWEST THAT THERE'S A GREAT SHORTAGE OF SOCCER AND FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS. AND I JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD TO BE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT ACCESS IS AVAILABLE FOR
THIS PARK. >> THE PARKLAND HAS ALREADY BEEN DEEDED TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, SO IT IS A PUBLIC PARK AND THE FUNDS FROM SILL FOR PARK IMPACT FEES CAN BE USED TO IMPROVE THAT ALREADY DEDICATED PARK. IT'S A PUBLIC PARK FOR EVERYONE TO USE FOR EVERYONE IN ST.
JOHNS COUNTY AND BEYOND. >> IT'S AN OPEN, REGIONAL
>> OKAY. IF THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN TO CHRISTINE AND BEFORE WE GET INTO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IT'S MY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH BOTH OBJECTORS AND PROPONENTS, THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A DESIGNATED SPEAKER TO SPEAK FOR A NUMBER OF OF IDIVIDUALS ON BOTH SIDES IN THE DESIGNATED SPEAKER HAS UP TO 10 MINUTES, I BELIEVE MR. MACENENIE IS SPEAKING
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FOR 10 MINUTES. AND THERE'S ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL, AND I APOLOGIZE, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE NAME IN FRONT OF ME. DO YOU HAVE THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL THAT I WAS TOLD IS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A GROUP OF PROPONENTS.>> I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN FIND OUT.
>> DO YOU KNOW, CHRISTINE? >> NO.
>> WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH JOE MACENENIE AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO GET TOGETHER AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMEONE DESIGNATED, I WAS TOLD, TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS SPEAKING FOR UP TO 10 MINUTES. AND THEN, THEN, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE, THAT IF YOU'RE NOT ON A LIST FOR EITHER OF THESE TWO 10-MINUTE SPEAKERS AND HERE REPRESENTING YOURSELF, YOU'LL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST. YES, ELLEN?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD TIME, WE WILL JUST HAVE OUR SPEAKERS SPEAK FOR 3 MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU. >> WITH THAT SAID, I'M PREPARED TO CALL ON MR. MACENENIE TO SPEAK FOR 10 MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP, I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST TO HANDLE PUBLIC COMMENT AND HE MIGHT HAVE SOME OFFER SOME INTRODUCTARY REMARKS PRIOR TO OPENING UP FOR THAT 3-MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WITH THAT SAID, MR. MACENENIE. GOOD
MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING, FOR THE RECORD, JOE MACENENIE, 1005. LANE.
>> REMEMBER FOR THE RECORD, JOE MACENENIE, 1005 BLACKBERRY. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, I'M REPRESENTING FOLKS WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE HEARD, ALREADY, THAT NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE LAST DECEMBER. THE TEXT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE SAME AS LAST DECEMBER, BUT I AM HERE TO SAY THAT MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE LAST DECEMBER. MUCH HAS CHANGED. IN FACT, SPOILER ALERT, SO MUCH THAT SILVERLEAF SHOULD NOW BE DENIED. AND LET'S SEE WHY. SO WHAT HAS CHANGED? WHAT HAS CHANGED? AND THESE ARE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER AND THERE'S NOT ONE MORE GERMANE THAN THE OTHER, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOPS, JANUARY AND APRIL, I REFER TO THIS AS A RENAISSANCE OF PUBLIC AWARENESS, IF YOU WILL, THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, THEY ARE PARTICIPATING AND EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS.
I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. SECONDLY, IN PART RESPONSE TO THAT, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED THE PUBLIC TO CONSIDER A $0.01 SALES TAX THEY'VE SAID THERE'S A BUILDING BACK LOG THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. WE SO HE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS FOR ROADS, WALKS, AND INCLUDING SOME FOR SILL ITSELF, AS WELL AS 16-A. THE COUNTY IS SELF APPROVED A PUD ENTITLEMENT. PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THIS NUMBER APPROVED BUT UNBUILT. THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IS CERTAINLY UNDERWAY. THERE'S A STUDY STARTED IN JANUARY TO DETERMINE WHERE THE TRAFFIC GOES, HARD TO BELIEVE HERE AFTER ALMOST 20 YEARS THAT WE'RE NOW ASKING THAT QUESTION. BUT THE STUDY IS UNDERWAY AND NOT YET POSSIBLE US, THE RESULTS ARE NOT YET UPON US, OUR TRANSPORTATION SAYS THAT TRAFFIC PATTERNS WILL CHANGE. CERTAINLY, THE COUNTY HAS BEGUN TO USE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS REFERRED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MORE RECENTLY, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, IS COMING UP OBJECTIVE A 125 C, VERY IMPORTANT WHICH SAYS THAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT COULD BE DENIED IF THERE IS NOT ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE ADDITION OF HOMES AND TRAFFIC AND WHERE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BY THE WAY IS NEITHER PROGRAMMED OR FUNDED THROUGH SCHEDULES, PROGRAMS AND OTHER PRODUCED, GOTTEN A LETTER FROM FLORIDA LAND USE ATTORNEY RICHARD GROSSO, GIVEN THAT TO ALL OF YOU AND THE COUNTY AND MR. GROSSO DOES EXAMINE NOT ONLY OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A 125-C BUT FLORIDA STATUTE WHICH SPEAKS ABOUT CONCURRENCY.
>> AND, I THINK SIGNIFICANTLY, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS, OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEGUN TO PRODUCE AND GIVE EACH OF YOU ON EVERY PROJECT A MAP SHOWING THE ADVERSELY IMPACTED ROADS IN
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A FOUR-MILE RAIDIOUS AND 8-MILE CIRCLE CAN DATA ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THOSE ROADS, HOW THEY NEED TO BE IMPROVE AND WHAT IT COSTS AND BY THE WAY DO WE HAVE THE MONEY YET? AND THE COUNTY HAS PRODUCED SEVERAL DENIALS BASED ON THIS, WHAT'S SHOWN HERE ON THE PROJECT ON STATE ROAD 16 WHERE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED ABOUT THE OVERALL NEED OF IMPROVEMENT, $90 MILLION, WAS A NUMBER WHICH WAS MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO PAY A MILLION DOLLAR AND ADD TRAFFIC IN THE COUNTY DETERMINED THAT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED IT WAS DENIED. THAT'S IMPORTANT, THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT. SO, NOW COMES SILVERLEAF, AND HOW DOES ALL OF THIS AFFECT SILVERLEAF? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE IMPACTED ROADS WITHIN THE FOUR-MILE RAIDIOUS AND 8DIOUSUS AND 8 MIL WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY REVIEWD THAT AND THE INFORMATION DOES NOT CHANGE. BUT, THE STAFF GAVE US A LIST OF 19 ADVERSELY IMPACTED ROADS.19 ADVERSELY IMPACTED ROADS. I DON'T KNOW, WHY THE TEXT IS NOT COMING UP. THERE WE GO. AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.
THERE HAS BEEN OVERLAP WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN WHICH THE EIGHT-MILE CIRCLE AND DATA IS PRESENTED. AND SO, WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR 7 OUT OF 19 ROAD SEGMENTS, NOT ALL 19, BUT EVEN OF THOSE 7, OH, MY GOSH, $79 MILLION UNFUNDED.
EVEN ON THAT BASIS, SILVERLEAF DOES NOT MEET OBJECTIVE A 125 C. WE CAN LOOK AT EVERYTHING PRESENTED, ALL THE NICE FEATURES AND MAKE OUR DETERMINATION ON THE PROJECT, IT DOES NOT NEED A
125 C. >> LET'S LOOK AT PARCEL 38, ODOT SAID NOTHING, PLEASE, WEST OF 16-A. AND, THE TEXT AMENDMENT TAKES THAT INTO ACCOUNT, BUT PARCEL 38 IS EAST OF 16-A. YOUR APPROVAL TODAY, THIS APPLICANT CAN BE AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TOMORROW WITH APPLICATIONS FOR BUILDING LOTS ADDING TRAFFIC TO 16-A. THAT'S NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR BY YOUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? WELL, WE CAN SUMMARIZE THE THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED. AND, WE HAVE SEEN THAT, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT, THE $0.01 SALES TAX, $63,000 APPROVED BUT UNBUILT HOMES AND SO FORTH. AND I HAVE BASIS, ONE COULD SAY, SUMMATION, LET'S DON'T BUILD 5600 MORE HOMES WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE 63,000 HOMES WAITING TO BE BUILT. LET'S WAIT FOR THE RESULTS FROM THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY AND AS MANY IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS HAVE EXPRESSED, LET'S TAKE CARE OF OUR PROBLEMS FIRST BEFORE ADDING MORE, THAT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO, DENIAL OF THIS PROJECT COULD HAVE SIMPLE, PRACTICAL AND FINANCIAL BENEFITS. BUT WITH RESPECT TO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IT'S OUR PLAN, IT'S ALL OF OUR PLANS. THERE ARE 19 ADVERSELY ROAD SEGMENTS TOTALLING $79 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW WHO DOES, BUT THAT INFORMATION IS NOT HERE.
THIS PROJECT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH A 125 C. SO SOME WOULD SAY, JOE, WHAT KIND OF A PLAN DO YOU HAVE THEN?
>> SO, LET ME SHOW YOU WERE MY PLAN STARTS. PLEASE GO BACK. MY PLAN STARTS RIGHT HERE. AND LET'S LOOK AT ALL OF THESE IMPACTED ROADS AND ALL OF THESE COSTS, IT'S IMMENSE, IT'S UNBELIEVABLY IMMENSE. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I'M MAD AS HELL. HOW DID WE GET HERE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE SURE THAT WE NEVER GET HERE AGAIN. THE DOLLARS NEEDED TO FIX THIS
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PROBLEM ARE DOLLARS THAT CAN'T GO TO OUR AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITIES OR INVESTMENT IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR JOB CREATION OR NOT INVESTED FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FOR FAMILIES, IT'S GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND I'M MAD AS HELL ABOUT THAT. AND I JUST PUT IT TO YOU, THAT AN APPROVAL TODAY FOR THIS IS SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY AND IS SENDING A MESSAGE TO A NUMBER OF OTHER DEVELOPERS OUT THERE LISTENING AND WAITING FOR THE ANSWER, THE GREEN BRIAR STATE ROUTE 16, PUD, YOU NAME IT, THEY'RE ALL ADDING TRAFFIC TO UNFUNDED, NO FUNDING SECURE ADVERSELY AFFECTED ROADS, THEY ALL ARE. AND WHAT THE DECISION IS TODAY WILL BE THE DECISION FOR EACH OF THOSE. I JUST ASK YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DENY THIS PROJECT, LET'S ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES, LET'S TAKE CARE OF OUR PROBLEMS, LET'S TELL THIS APPLICANT YOU HAVE BIG PLANS, YOU HAVE BIG PLANS.>> YOU'RE INTERRUPTING. YOU'RE INTERRUPTING HIS TIME. I WANT TO KEEP THIS DISCUSSION THIS MORNING CIVIL AND ON TRACK, BUT YOU'RE APPLAUSE IS ONLY TAKING AWAY TIME FROM MR. MACENENIE. SO, PLEASE ALLOW EVERYONE TO SPEAK. PLEASE RESPECT YOUR FELLOW SPEAKERS THIS MORNING, OKAY. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU
ANOTHER 20 MINUTES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> FINISH UP IF YOU WILL. YOU WERE INTERRUPTED.
>> I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I THINK THAT YOU GET THE SENSE, THE SENTIMENT, LET'S ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES, LET'S GET THIS DONE, WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER. YOU'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC FOR PARTICIPATION THROUGH A $0.01 SALES TAX. YOU'RE ASKING FOR BELIEF, AND SO, I JUST URGE YOU, PLEASE, FOR WHATEVER THE REASONS THAT THIS PROJECT IS DEEMED TO BE CREDIBLE AND GOOD AND BENEFICIAL, THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT DOES NOT MEET OBJECTIVE 125 C. PLEASE DENY.
>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER, PLEASE, PLEASE RESPECT THE FELLOW SPEAKERS. AND ALSO, THE TIME THAT EACH OF YOU NEED TO SPEAK AND WE WOULD LIKE NO APPLAUSE OR ACTIONS. BUT, I'M GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST BEFORE HE CALLS ON THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON EITHER SIDE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE POLICY GOING FORWARD?
>> YEAH, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO DON'T REGULARLY ATTEND THE MEETINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORIUM.
ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS, EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED WITH 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORIUM.
COMMENTS SHOULD BE CRAZEED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER. THIS IS NOT THE FOR RUM FOR Q & A, YOU COULD ASK QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR EMAILS, AT THIS TIME WE'RE NOT FIELDING QUESTIONS. NO PERSON SHOULD ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR. FINALLY, I WOULD ASK THAT ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS ANY OVERHEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THAT MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT SO THAT IT MAY BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD AND ALL THE COMMENTS SHOULD BE RELATED AND DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. AGAIN THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR BOARD RULES. WITH THAT, I THINK THAT WE'RE READY TO HEAR
PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE'RE OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD, WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE BOTH PODIUMS AND
WE COULD GO 1 DO TWO. >> FOR THE RECORD I'M ASHLEY FRITS LIVE IN THE WHITE LOCK FARMS NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. MACENENIE. I'M A PHYSICIAN BY TRADE, SO I'M NOT AS ELEGANT A SPEAKER AS HIM, BUT I'M A MOTHER AND I WANTED TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION THAT CURRENTLY 19% OF STUDENTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE BEING TAUGHT IN PORTABLES. ST.
JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOLS INTENDS TO INCREASE THE PORTABILITY
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BY 120 THIS YEAR. AND THE OVERCROWDING IN OUR SCHOOLS WAS BUILT FOR 15,000 STUDENTS AND CURRENTLY HAS 2300 STUDENTS ENROLLED. NOW HAS BEEN DELAYED. I ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY ARE NOT CURRENTLY ABLE TO WITH STAND THE 63,000 UNITS ALREADY APPROVED. SO, I DO NOT FEEL THAT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN A-1-25C I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE CURRENT SCHOOL INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DENY THIS UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR SCHOOLS AND FOR YOURCHILDREN. THAT IS ALL. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
>> WELCOME. >> CHUCK LEBINOWSKI, 1738 NORTH COMPERAL. WITHOUT THE ROADS, THEY COULD NOT GET IN THERE TO BUILD THESE HOMES. THAT'S GREAT THAT THEY BUILT THEM BUT TO WHOSE BENEFIT? THE PARKS, THAT'S AWESOME.
$23 MILLION FOR A PARK IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE. IT'S COSTING RIGHT NOW ACCORDING TO DOCUMENTS EARLIER $25 MILLION TO BUILD A PARK. IT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THEY PROVIDED SCHOOL PROPERTY, OUTSTANDING OVER 100 ACRES, ONLY ONE ACCESS. 16-A, WHICH IS UNDEVELOPED, IT'S A TWO-LANE ROAD. THE COUNTY PLANS ON PUTTING IN A HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AS A K-8 SCHOOL ON THAT PROPERTY AND POSSIBLY A PARK ON THE NORTH END WHICH IS PARTIALLY WETLANDS TO BEGIN WITH. WE HAVE GROUND ZERO RIGHT THERE. IT GOES OUT. THIS IS USED IN ONE OF THE MAPS IT GOES BEYOND THE 4-MILE - RUN BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY WITH WHAT THEY HAVE GOES FAR BEYOND THAT. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT 210 AND ALL THE WAY TO THE OUTLET MALLS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE AMENDMENT, THIS IS THE REASON TO STOP IT NOW. TO POSTPONE IT, I'M NOT SAYING TOTALLY STOP IT BUT POSTPONE IT UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE CATCHING UP. WE'RE HURTING, WEE KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM. YEAH, IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR A LONG TIME. LONG BEFORE YOU WERE SETTING ON THE BOARD AND IT KEEPS CONTINUING ON AND ON AND ON, THE COST KEEPS GETTING LARGER. CURRENTLY, IT 26,750 VEHICLES WILL HIT THE AREA. THE ADDITIONS WILL ADD ANOTHER 14 MILLION. TOTAL VEHICLES, 40,750 VEHICLES TO THAT AREA. IT'S GOING TO SEEM LIKE 40
MILLION. >> 16 ALONE CAN'T HANDLE THIS TRAFFIC. IF YOU LOOK HERE, EVERYTHING IS UNFUNDED, WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN FIXED 7 YEARS AGO, FROM IGP DOWN TO SOUTH FRANCIS IS NOT BEING FUNDED UNTIL PHASE 3 OF THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER IS DONE.
THAT'S NOT GETTING DONE. $80 MILLION TO DO THAT ROAD, ESTIMATED TIME, SEVEN YEARS, SO WHY APPROVE THIS NOW, WAIT UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS FIXED, INCLUDING 16-A, AND 13, THE SCENIC ROAD. HERE'S THE REASONS TO DENY RIGHT HERE, 6 REASONS, 16-A. NO FUNDING
FOR IMPROVEMENT, >> 13, NO FUNDING.
>> WE GOT TO MOVE ON. THANK YOU, SIR, THANK YOU
FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> YES, MA'AM, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
>> HI, HEATHER NEVILLE, TWO 1015TH STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH. AS SOMEONE WHO IS CONSTANTLY ASSESSING THE SURROUNDINGS, I CONTINUE TO OBSERVE MY AGE GROUP IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING. I WAS ABLE TO SEE THAT A YOUNG MOM WAS ABLE TO SEE FIRST. I MYSELF, TOOK OFF OF WORK, IT SORT OF, I HAVE MY LAP TOP HERE, I HAVE I'M WORKING, AS A SINGLE MOM, I HAVE TO PAY THE BILLS AND KEEP THE FIRES GOING. OUR HOUSING STOCK AND NEED AND PRICING AND AVAILABILITY, WELL, WE HAVE TO KEEP CONTINUING TO BUILD. IN FACT, I SEE MOST OF MY PEERS
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IN FRONT OF ME AND FIND COMMENTS ABOUT LACK OF PLANNING FUNNY BECAUSE MY ELDERLY PEERS, AND THIS ISSING TONGUE AND CHEEK AND I APOLOGIZE, TO GIGGLE, WHERE WERE YOU 20 YEARS AGO, I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND I WASN'T EVEN ABLE TO ENJOY I AN ADULT BEVERAGE AT THAT TIME. HOUSING STOCK ACROSS OUR COUNTRY IS DIFFICULT AS A SINGLE MOTHER. OUR COUNTY IS A TAP POSSES REM I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ZONING ITEM, NOT SO MUCH THE ZONING BUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE COUNTY'S NEEDS NOW AND GOING FORWARD. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUED EFFORTS I HAVE GOTTEN PLACED FOR REGIONAL MOTOR VEHICLES. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN FAIRLY AGGRESSIVELY, VOLUNTEERING, ATTEMPTING TO PIECE BY PIECE BUILDING A NETWORK OF TRAILS. AS A COUNTY, OUR REAL ESTATE STRATEGY DOESN'T CURRENTLY AFFORD US MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST. FOR THIS REASON WE MUST CONTINUE TO RELY ON OUR STATE AND DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS TO DEVELOP A NETWORK. FACILITIES SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY WE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE. ONE OF THOSE WAS 2209. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THE PARKWAY, PRETTY MUCH ANYTIME OF DAY I CAN ATTEST, NOT ONLY WAS IT BUILT IN ADVANCE OF THE HOMES BUT UTILIZED SINCE DAY 1. I FELT EXCELLED TO COME IN TO SUPPORT THIS ITEM BECAUSE IN FACT IT DOES EXIST IN PROVIDING FACILITIES THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS. MORE AND MORE AND CHANGE IS REALLY TOUGH, I GET IT, BUT OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING AND OUR HOUSING STOCK MUST ALSO GROW, THOUGHTFUL PLANNING INCLUDES PROPERTIES THAT ARE LIKE IN CHARACTER AND INCREASE IN NETWORK OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS CONNECT EXISTING AREAS AND IT'S BEING BUILT NOW. AS STATED, SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN HERE, THE PROJECT WILL CHANGE BUT WE HAVE TO RELY ON OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS TO MAXIMIZE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, I'M PHYLLIS AVETERO AND I LOVE AT 1133 RIVER BIRCH ROAD. I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THE DAY THAT YOU RAISED RIGHT-HAND AND PUT YOUR LEFT-HAND ON A BIBLE AND COMMITTED TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, NOT JUST SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, NOT JUST DEVELOPERS, BUT ALL OF US.
AND TODAY'S THE DAY THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW US THAT YOU MEANT IT. THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY WAS DECIDED TO BE BUILT BECAUSE IT WAS TO TAKE THE TRAFFIC FROM JACKSONVILLE, BUT WHERE DOES IT END UP? IT ENDS UP IN THE HEART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THEY SAID, THE FDOT HAS NOT COMPLETED IT'S STUDY, BUT THERE IS A WORD THAT THEY SAID THAT THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 11,000 ON AND OFF MOVEMENTS ON FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY DAILY. THAT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING INTO OUR COUNTY. AT THIS POINT, ALTHOUGH THIS DEVELOPER IS A GOOD DEVELOPER, WE NEED TO PUT BRAKE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT NOW. LET'S GET OUR ROADS FIXED, LET'S GET OUR SCHOOLS FIXED. YOU HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO WORK ON, COMMISSIONERS, DO IT FOR THE PEOPLE NOT THE DEVELOPERS. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, CRAIG DUE HIRST, 365 SOPHIA TERRACE.
I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TO THE AREA, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU COULD PENALIZE THE DEVELOPER, SILVERLEAF, AS YOU COULD SEE THEY PUT IN THE ROADS TO START THE PROJECT AND PLANNING TO SPEND SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS.
I KNOW THAT WE DON'T LIKE GROWTH IN OUR COUNTY, BUT IT'S INEVITABLE. THE SCHOOL'S NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE AND BRINGING EVERYBODY HERE. I WRITE A LOT OF INSURANCE BUSINESS IN THE HOMES IN THAT AREA AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE SPENDING SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT WHEN IT'S DONE IT'S GOING TO GENERATE OVER $50 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR THIS COUNTY. OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS AND THE
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ONES BEFORE YOU HAVE MADE POOR DECISIONS, I THINK WE COULD AGREE ONLY SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS, I CAN NAME THEM IN SOME OF MY AREA, THE ONES GONE IN ON 16 OR PESETTI, WE HAVEN'T WIDENED THE ROADS BUT WE HAVE DEVELOPED PLACES. I HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND NOTE THAT THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY, BUT THIS IS A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN. THANKYOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. AVETELLO,
WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, I'M AL AVETELLO AND I LIVE AT 1133 BIRCH RIDGE ROAD AND I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SCENIC HIGHWAY. THE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION. I GOT TO TELL YOU, THOUGH, AS WEEVIL NOTED WE'RE HISTORIC ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND IT HAS BEEN HISTORIC SINCE THE 17 HUNDREDS WHEN IT FIRST DETERMINED AS A HISTORIC COMMUNITY. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE'RE BECOMING A VERY GRID LOCKED COUNTY. AS WE HEARD FROM OTHER FOLKS INCLUDING JOE MACENENIE. WHO DID A WONDERFUL JOB ON WHY THIS JOB SHOULD BE DENIED OR DEFERRED TO A LATER DATE.
WE'VE ALL SEEN THE FACTS THAT THE ROADWAYS ARE CONGESTED AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT. WE'RE DEPENDING ON THE TAX INCREASE, WETHER OR NOT THE TAX INCREASE WILL BE IMPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE $0.01 SALES TAX, HOW DO WE SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CONGESTED ROADWAYS AND EFFICIENT ROADWAYS. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE TRAFFIC EXACT AS FAR AS THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE KNOWN UNTIL JUNE. IT COULD BE LATER. WHY ARE WE RUSHING THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT NOW? AGAIN, IF NOT DENIED, AT LEAST DEFERRED TO A LATER DATE WHEN WE KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS WILL BE AS FAR AS THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IT IS CONCERNED. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IS GOING TO BRING TRAFFIC AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN, GUESS WHAT, ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC COMES THROUGH THE HEART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THERE'S EMERGENCY REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH WE SHOULD BE SEEING THERE'S AN EXIT OFF OF THE EXPRESSWAY THAT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT THE COUNTY ROAD 16-A, STATE ROAD 210, ROBERTS ROAD, LONG LEAF PINE AS WELL AS STATE ROAD 13 WHICH ARE ALL TWO-LANE ROADWAYS THAT ARE INEFFICIENT AT THE PRESENT TIME. COUNTY ROAD 2209 ARE ALREADY CONGESTED, THEY ARE FOUR-LANE ROADS, GUESS WHAT? THEY WILL BE EVEN MORE CONGESTED IF THIS DOES OPEN FOR TRAFFIC. SO, WE URGE YOU, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS, TO EITHER DENY THIS MASSIVE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT IN RURAL AREA OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND OR AT THE VERY LEAST DEFER IT TO SOME FUTURE DATE WHEN WE KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS AND WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE OF OUR TAX INCREASE IF IN FACT IT IS APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, MR. AVETOLLO FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> FOR THE RECORD, I'M JACQUELINE BLANC, 3930 ST.
JOHNS COUNTY. P I'VE SPENT 15 YEARS IN DISTRICT 2 WHERE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE. IT USED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE THERE, CATTLE AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF, GONE. 25 YEARS IN THE CORPORATE ENVIRONMENT WAS THE LAST PART OF MY 40-YEAR CAREER. THERE WAS NO OPTION TO ASK SHAREHOLDERS FOR A BAILOUT IN MY CAREER. MY 14-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON AND I RECENTLY DROVE BY THE NEWLY BUILT SCHOOL IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, HE'S REACTION TO THAT SCHOOL WAS WOW, IS THAT A SCHOOL? IT'S LIKE A TAJ MA HALL, WHY DO WE HIRE NEW PLANNING, NEW ARCHITECTURE, AND COMPLETELY START OVER OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WE BUILD. WHY DON'T WE HAVE
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ARCHITECTURAL PLAN FOR ALL SCHOOLS. WHY DO WE REINVENT THE WHEEL ALL THE TIME. OUR COUNTY BUDGET IS HUGE. YOU, OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE WELL-PAID STAFF AND RESOURCES AT HAND, GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND FIND THE SOLUTIONS. THE DEVELOPERS HAVE A LEGACY OF FINANCIAL STABILITY FOR THEIR FAMILIES FOR DECADES TO COME CAN EVEN WITH NO MORE APPROVALS. THAT'S VIA 25-YEAR BUILD OUTS. WHAT A NICE THING TO HAVE FOR YOUR FAMILY. SOMEONE, SOMEONE, YOU, NEED TO MAKE THE LAST CALL. THE PARTY IS OVER. WHEN THE GOOD CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY VOTE DOWN THE SALES TAX INCREASE AS I HOPE WE DO. WILL YOU THEN, TAP THESE RESOURCES, ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AND STEP AWAY FROM THE NORM OF PAST AND PRESENT WAYS OF THIS BOARD? I LOVE THIS COUNTY. I UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS GROWTH, I WELCOME OUR NEW NEIGHBORS, OR MOST OF THEM, ANYWAY. BUT, THERE COMES A TIME WHEN THE CORK MUST BE PUT BACK IN THE BOTTLE. WE MUST NOW TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN. WE MUST NOW TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN IN ORDER TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT OUR WAY OF LIFE AND OUR LANDSCAPE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTY. IT'S TIME FOR NEW CONCEPTS, NEW IDEAS, BLAMING THOSE THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU IS NONPRODUCTIVE AND IT DOES NOT SOLVE PROBLEMS. DO NOT PROVIDE A LEGACY FOR THOSE THAT COME AFTER YOU HERE ON THIS BOARD, THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW TO BLAME YOU FOR THESE ISSUES IN OUR COUNTY THAT THEY WILL FACE IN THE FUTURE. WHEN THE WORD GETS OUT, NO VARIANCES, NO DENSITY INCREASES, NO AG TO -->> THANK YOU, MS. LA BLANC. >> DO NOT BUILD AND THEY
WILL NOT COME. >> THANK YOU, WE GOT TO MOVE ON. I KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO.
>> GOOD MORNING, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS FRANK OLIVA, I LIVE AT 223 DRIVE. I'M AWARE OF THE INITIAL DRI SUBMITTED BY THIS DEVELOPER, CALLED FOR, PROMISED LAND FOR THREE SCHOOLS INSIDE SILVERLEAF AND THE COMMISSION OVER TIME CONTINUED TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS TO THAT DRI THAT WENT FROM THREE SCHOOLS TO TWO SCHOOLS TO NO SCHOOLS WHATSOEVER WITHIN SILVERLEAF IN OTHER WORDS, THAT INITIAL DRI IS NOTHING MORE THAN A FALSE PROMISE. NOW, AS YOU COULD TELL FROM THE COLOR OF MY HEAD, I DON'T HAVE SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SCHOOLS PROVIDE BESIDE EDUCATION AFFECTIVE EDUCATION THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE COMING TO BE BECOME OVERCROWDED AND THEREFORE CREATES A LESS THAN DESIRABLE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CHILDREN. I GREW UP LIVING MOST OF MY LIFE IN SOUTH FLORIDA. AND WE LOOKED AT SCHOOLS NOT JUST FOR EDUCATION, BUT AS SHELTERS FOR HURRICANES, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS COUNT COMMISSION AND PLANNERS HAVE THOUGHT THIS OUT. BECAUSE HAVING LIVED THROUGH SEVERAL HURRICANES, INCLUDING THE 1992 HURRICANE THAT WAS SO DEVASTATED, I ASSURE YOU THIS: IF THERE'S AT LEAST A CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE, MY WIFE AND I ARE GOING TO SEEK SHELTER IN A SCHOOL WHICH ARE TYPICALLY SHELTERS AGAINST HURRICANES. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH SCHOOLS IN THIS COUNTY TO PROVIDE ACCURATE SHELTER FOR IT'S CITIZENS. WE CONTINUE TO GROW WITHOUT CONTROL, WITHOUT NEW SCHOOLS AND THE GROWTH IS THANKS TO DEVELOPERS AND LIKE THIS PROJECT IN SILVERLEAF. I URGE YOU TO THINK AHEAD.
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. AND CONTINUE TO BETTER MANAGE THE GROWTH THAT IS BECOMING UNMANAGEABLE IN OUR COUNTY.
THINK ABOUT THE HEALTH, AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
$23 MILLION PROMISES FROM THE DEVELOPER, FOLKS, WE KNOW WITH THE CURRENT INFLATION, IT DOES NOT AMOUNT TO ANYTHING. SO, I PRAY THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS CAREFULRY, IF NOT DENY IT, AT LEAST POSTPONE IT.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR FOR YOUR
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COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THAT. YES, SIR.>> GOOD MORNING, FOR THE RECORD, I'M GARY CULET, I LIVE AT 1201 NECK ROAD UPON IT'S GOURD DA BEACH, FLORIDA. I WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ST.
JOHNS COUNTY FOR 41 YEARS, MY WIFE AND I MOVED OUR DAUGHTERS WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS. WE MOVED OUT OF DUVALL COUNTY WHERE WE GREW UP. I'M THE ONLY ONE LEFT STANDING. MY GIRLS LIVE IN GEORGIA AND MY WIFE PASSED AWAY. WHAT I WITNESSED OVER THE YEARS IS ASTOUNDING, WITH THOUSANDS OF PROJECTS ALREADY IMPROVED, INCLUDING THE 10,000 HOMES APPROVED F SILVERLEAF. I'VE DRIVEN BY SO MANY SCHOOLS WITH PORTABLE CLASSROOMS, SCHOOLS THAT ARE NOT EVEN FIVE YEARS-OLD HAVE SCHOOLS WITH PORTABLE CLASSROOMS. HOW CAN ST. JOHNS COUNTY CONTINUE TO HAVE THE QUALITY OF SCHOOLS THAT IT HAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S MAINTAINED IT SO FAR, LIKE I SAID, IT GOES BACK TO THE PARENTS AND TEACHERS, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SUSTAIN. MY STATS MAY BE OLD, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE IS IT GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME WAS CONSERVATIVE. THE LAST TIME WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY I BELIEVE IT WAS 9 TRIPS PER DAY PER FAMILY, YOU TAKE THAT ACROSS THE 10,000 HOMES THAT COMES UP TO A BIG NUMBER, AND YOU ADD 5700 MORE HOMES TIMES NINE TRIPS A DAY YOU HAVE A LOT OF CARS UP AND DOWN THE STREET. AND I CAN TELL YOU, I DON'T EVEN LIVE CLOSE TO THE PROJECT, I LIVE IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH.
EVEN NOW, IT'S JAMMED. I GO UP AND DOWN THE ROAD AND THERE'LL BE A TRAFFIC GEM FROM 9 B TO POLENCIA. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENTS WILL HANDLE ALL THIS TRAFFIC AND WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND. AGAINST THIS, DENIED THIS 5600 HOMES. THANK YOU, GUYS,
THANK YOU, SIR. >> HI, WELCOME. THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK, MY NAME IS MICHAEL FINNIGAN AND I LIVE AT 56 BALTIC AVENUE OFF OF 16 A. I LIVED IN CALIFORNIA 46 YEARS. THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF GOOD PLANS AND PEOPLE PROMISE A LOT.
BUT IN THE END, ALL YOU GOT WAS CEMENT. WHEN I LOVED MERE THREE YEARS AGO, I MOVED HERE BECAUSE WHEN I CAME IN, I SAW THE NATURAL FOREST, I SAW A LOT OF ANIMALS, I LIKED THE ALLIGATORS, AND I DECIDED TO MOVE HERE. THREE YEARS AGO, WAS A LOT DIFFERENT. BUT THE RAPID EXPANSION AND THE TRAFFIC REMINDS ME OF CALIFORNIA. AND I'M NERVOUS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CHANGED FOR THE BETTER. I WOULD LIKE MY QUALITY OF LIFE TO BE GOOD. AS EVERYBODY IN HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE GOOD. BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS COUNTER TO THAT. TO, I OPPOSE IT AND I HOPE THAT YOU DO TOO. THANK YOU.
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>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SIR.
>> HI, WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, (INDISCERNIBLE) 255 TREASURE BEACH ROAD. I WAS RAISED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, MOVED AWAY IN THE PURSUIT OF EDUCATION AND MOVED BACK WITH THE INTENTION OF RAISING MY FAMILY. AS YOU COULD IMAGINE I'VE SEEN THE AREA CHANGED. I'M IN NO WAY REGRESSIVE OR AFRAID OF CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT. I DO, HOWEVER, STRONGLY OPPOSED UNRESTRICTED AND UNBRIDLED GROWTH OCCURRING CURRENTLY. WE'RE APPROVING WITH PROJECTS WITHOUT FORESIGHT. THE BREAK NECK DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING IS BLEEDING ST. JOHNS COUNTY OF THE CHARACTER THE RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO ADORE. WE'VE SEEN AN EXPLOSION OF TRAFFIC TO THE DEGREE UNSUSTAINABLE FOR OUR AREA. THEY DESCRIBE IT AS CRAB BIT HERE, NO ONE WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS CROWDED. THE ALLURE WAS THAT WE WERE NOT SOUTH FLORIDA WE HAVEN'T CUT DOWN EVERY TREE TO MAKE ROOM FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT. THE CONTINUED UNRESTRICTED EXPANSION OF PAL ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE ROADS WILL BECOME OVERSATURATED AND UNSAFE. OUR QUALITY OF LIFE WILL DECREASE FOR THE RESIDENTS. THE ONLY WINNERS HERE ARE THE DEVELOPERS. ST. JOHNS COUNTY CURRENTLY OWNS OVER 60,000 APPROVED HOMES NOT P BUILT. OF THE OVER 10,000 HOMES APPROVED FOR SILVERLEAF LESS THAN 1,000 HAVE BEEN BUILT. I'M AT A LOSS FOR WHY THE APPROVAL COULD BE NEEDED AT THIS JUNCTURE WHEN WE COULD PLAN FOR IT APPROPRIATELY AND PLAN WHEN NEEDED.
AGAIN, GRANTING THESE APPROVALS DOES NOT BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OR THE COUNTY, THIS BENEFITS ONLY THE DEVELOPER. IN CLOSING, I EMPHATICALLY IMPLORE YOU TO VOTE KNOW ON THE SILVERLEAF EXPANSION. YOU'RE TASKED WITH MAKING REPRESENTATIVE DECISIONS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHO VOTED YOU INTO THESE ROLES.
YOU DO NOT REPRESENT SILVERLEAF, THE DEVELOPERS SHH OR THE POTENTIAL HOME OWNERS. YOU REPRESENT US, THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND I BEG FOR YOUR VOTE TO REFLECT THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOURENT COMPANIES.
YES, MA'AM. WELCOME BACK. >> HI, HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
>> CARLA CORTO, 4405 MANUSIE ROAD. I DON'T ENVY YOUR JOB. THIS PROJECT IS A MASSIVE HIGH IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IN A GORGEOUS RURAL AREA. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OUT THERE, YOU NEED TO BEFORE IT'S ALL GONE, YOU NEED TO CHECK IT OUT. IT'S MY OLD STOMPING GROUNDS.
THESE PLANS SOUND AMAZING, VERY WELL DONE PLANS AND THEY WILL BE GREAT IF WE WEREN'T ALREADY IN A CRISIS WITH OVER DEVELOPMENT. THE PLANS FOR THE ROADWAYS ARE GREAT IN AND AROUND SILVERLEAF BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ROADWAYS OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT? ARE WE JUST GOING TO HOPE THAT THE OTHER ROADWAYS WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE IMPACT BY P 2047 ESPECIALLY THE EASTBOUND TRAFFIC ON 216 WHICH IS ALREADY A HUGE NIGHTMARE. I KNOW THAT THEY DISCOURAGE FUTURE LAND DESIGNATION OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL BEING AMENDMENTED TO RESIDENTIAL.
I KNOW THAT CAME UP AT GROWTH MANAGEMENT AS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN AND OUR COUNTY NEEDS TO PROTECT THESE LANDS BECAUSE ONCE THEY'RE GONE THEY'RE GONE.
WHAT ABOUT OUR WATER? WE'RE ALREADY IN A DROUGHT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE PUT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MORE HOMES IN THIS AREA AND WE HIT A DROUGHT LIKE WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WITH FIRES AND ALL. AND ALSO, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HURRICANE EVACUATION. WE ALREADY HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING OUT OF HERE WHEN WE HAVE TO EVACUATE FOR A HURRICANE. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THESE DEVELOPMENTS KEEP COMING IN.
LET'S CATCH UP ON THOSE AND CATCH UP ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WHY APPROVE NOW? WHY NOT TAKE A WAIT AND SEE ATTITUDE, AND I MEAN, THE LAND WILL STILL BE THERE IF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE IT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> YES, SIR, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS MICHAEL READ AND I LEAVE AT
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328 MARSH POINT CIRCLE. YOU'VE HEARD THE DETAILS OF OPPOSING THIS DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT. I'M URGING YOU TO OPPOSE ADDING 5,600 NEW HOMES TO OUR COMMUNITY AS PART OF THE SILVERLEAF DEVELOPMENT. THE ORIGINAL SILVERLEAF IS 10,900 HOMES AND NOW, THE HUDSON COMPANIES WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANOTHER 5,600 HOMES. IF APPROVED, AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, IT WILL HAVE A DISASTEROUS REVERBATIONS COUNTY RIDE. WE'VE ALREADY HAD AT LEAST 61,000 UNBUILT HOMES SCHEDULED TO BE BUILT. OUR COUNTY CANNOT POSSIBLY PROVIDE THE NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUSTAIN THIS RATE OF GROWTH. AND WHO IS THE DEVELOPER? OUR STATE SENATOR TRAVIS HUDSON WHO TRIED TO PASS A LAW THAT WOULD REDUCE THE TIME PERIOD FROM 10 YEARS TO FIVE YEARS THAT A HOME BUYER COULD SUE FOR A CONSTRUCTION FLOOR.ISN'T THAT A MAJOR RED FLAG? >> PLEASE DON'T YIELD TO SHORT-TERM PROFIT FOR A FEW AT THE EXPENSE OF LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS. I SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU WILL ACT RESPONSIBLY AND RATIONALLY AND OPPOSE THIS LATEST BID BY DEVELOPERS THAT WILL PREVENT A HEALTHY, HAPPY, FUTURE IN YOUR COUNTY.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU AUDIENCE HOLD THEIR APPLAUSE.
>> THANK YOU. >> I'M JOSEPH AND I'M 699 (INDISCERNIBLE) DRIVE ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. LAST MONTH YOU VOTED TO OUT PUT THE ON THE BALLOT. MOST OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OR A LARGE MAJORITY OF IT WENT TO THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE COUNTY. AND, SO, YOUR THEORY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS WITH IMPACT FEES, THE THEORY OF THE LADY WHO SPOKE FOR THE PROJECT IS FALSE. YOU WOULD NOT BE REQUIRING A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN SALES TAX INCREASE IF YOU'RE PLAN WAS WORKING TO GET THIS ON PAID FOR WITH IMPACT FEES. NOW, THE PREVIOUSLY SPEAKERS SPOKE ABOUT WHO THE DEVELOPER IS, IT'S HUDSON INDUSTRIES, YOU'RE RIGHT, HIS SON IS OUR STATE SENATOR. AND HUDSON HAS A LOT OF INFLUENCE WITH THIS BOARD. ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WAS NOMINATED BY DESANTIS ON BEHEST OF
TRAVIS HUDSON. >> I GOT TO REMIND YOU TO KEEP THE COMMENTS TO THE ITEM ITSELF.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE ROADS, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE ROADS FOR THIS PROJECTS AND THAT MAKES ALL THE IMPACT, A MERE MINIMAL, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE, BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OR ANYONE IN HERE HAS DRIVEN DOWN ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY AND SILVERLEAF PARKWAY, IT IS A PRIVATE ROAD FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, NOW, IT DOES CONNECT UP TO MAJOR ARTERIES, AND THAT'S GOOD.
BUT IT'S LIKE YOU'RE DRIVING IN DISNEY WORLD AND YOU SEE ALL THE MOUSE EARS, IT SAYS WELCOME TO HUDSON PROPERTIES, RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. BOTH SIDES OF THAT ROAD ARE CLEARED LAND READY FOR DEVELOPMENT. IT IS 100% A PRIVATE ROAD BLEAT PRIMARILY FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUDSON DEVELOPING COMPANY AND SILVERLEAF. SO, I URGE YOU NOT TO ONLY POSTPONE THIS, BUT TO DENY IT BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT JUST BRING IT UP WHEN THERE'S NO SO MUCH PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT AND IT BENEFITS ONE DEVELOPER OVER THE REST OF THE COUNTY AND YOU CAN'T PAY FOR IT, AND YOU HAVE NO PLAN TO PAY FOR IT, AND THE PLAN THAT YOU DO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, ISN'T WORKING NOW. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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>> YES, MA'AM. >> HELLO, I'M ANN TAYLOR, AND I LIVE AT 1365 STATE ROAD 206. I'M SPEAKING TODAY FOR THE SOUTH A ANASTASIA COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE 61,000 UNBUILT HOUSES, THE UNMET INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, OUR NEEDS FOR NEW SCHOOLS, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE RECENT ARTICLE IN THE RECORD SAID THAT THE CURRENT MEDIAN PRICE FOR A NEW BUILT HOUSE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS $558,700. WHAT WE NEED IS MORE WORK FORCE HOUSING. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TEACHERS, POLICE, AND FIRE-FIGHTERS, HEALTH CARE WORKERS CAN AFFORD THOSE KINDS OF HOUSES. I WOULD URGE YOU AND SUGGEST THAT THIS COMMISSION CONSIDER REQUIRING NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO INCLUDE WORKFORCE HOUSING. I KNOW THAT HAPPENS IN OTHER AREAS. SO, AGAIN, WE URGE YOU TO DENY
THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. TAYLOR.
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. YES, SIR? WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS CHARLES HUNT AND I LIVE AT 5135 SIGH LOW ROAD, AND I'M HERE TO OBVIOUSLY OPPOSE THE EXPANSION ONTO THE SILVERLEAF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE FACT, AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS STATED AND I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT, WHY DO YOU NEED TO ADD MORE TO WHAT IS NOT
>> DID THEY SHOW ANY PLANS OF THE WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR THAT WHOLE AREA? WAS THERE ANY FOR WATER TREATMENT FOR THAT WHOLE AREA? THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED INTO IT.
I WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT I MISSED THE DAY THAT THE SILVERLEAF PLANNING EXTENSION PASSED BACK IN DECEMBER, BECAUSE STRANGELY ENOUGH THERE WAS AN APPOINTMENT BEING CARRIED ON THAT SAME MORNING AND IN THE DEVELOPMENT EXTENSION PASSED. SO, IT SEEMS VERY STRANGE IN LOOKING THROUGH ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS OR THE MONETARY CAMPAIGN FUNDS, YES, YOU DO SEE HUDSON'S, HUDSON'S HUDSON'S HUDSON'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT IF WE THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT UP THE ROAD IN DC WORKS LIKE THIS, IT HAPPENS IN THE BACKYARD. THIS ISN'T THE BACKYARD OF US. ME, YEAH, I'M UP THE ROAD IN JACKSONVILLE, ALL RIGHT, BORN AND RAISES, SIN CITY, ALL RIGHT, COME DOWN HERE, WHEN IT WAS THE RUT, WHEN THE HOUSING MARKET WAS STUMPED. BUT NOW, SEEING HOW MUCH IT HAS JUST TAKEN OVER, IT HAS BECOME LIKE THE GOLDEN CORRAL OF DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS WHO DOES IT BENEFIT? HOW DOES IT BENEFIT? WE KNOW THAT IT BENEFITS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LOOK INTO IT. THEY RUN THIS. WE'RE TIRED OF THIS. IF YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE AGAINST IT, WE'RE AGAINST IT. IT IS A MONETARILY INCREASE IN TAXES THAT IS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THAT'S THE PLAN, PASS THIS THEN WE'LL PUT OUT THIS TAX TO HAVE PEOPLE PAY FOR WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE. BOTTOM LINE, BOTTOM LINE, PEOPLE, THAT'S HOW IT IS, THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE STOPPED.
THIS EXTENSION AND THAT SURTAX NEEDS TO BE NULL AND VOID OFF OF THIS, BECAUSE THE MONEY SHOULD BE COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKETS, NOT OUR'S. WE ALREADY PAY THE TAXES HERE THAT WE NEED TO. THERE WAS GRAND OAKS WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE, THEY SUBMITTED THEY WOULD PUT IN $15 MILLION FOR AN EXTENSION FROM THEIR
ENTRANCE UP TO 16. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> NO MONEY HAS YET TO BE PROVIDED FOR THAT.
>> I HEAR YOU. YES, SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO KEEP IT ON THE SUBJECT WE'RE HERE ON PUBLIC COMMENT FOR SILVERLEAF, IF YOU'RE AGAINST THE PROJECT, THAT'S FANTASTIC, WE WANT TO HEAR WHY. I REALIZE IT'S AN EMOTIONAL TOPIC BUT JUST TRY TO FOCUS THE COMMENTS ON THE TOPIC.
>> GOOD MORNING. >> RICK CABANA, 5711 TURN
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BERRY LANE, ST. AUGUSTINE. >> AND I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER AND REHASH THINGS, BUT, UM, WE KNOW THAT THE GROWTH IS OUT OF CONTROL. YOU KNOW IT. YOU'RE CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEY'VE BEEN ASKING YOU TO STOP. AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN. GROWTH IS OUT OF CONTROL, THE COUNTY SEEMS TO BE LIKE A CANDY STORE OR DEVELOPERS. AND IT'S PUTTING YOUR COUNTY, MY COUNTY, ON A RACE DOWN HILL.
A RACE TO THE BOTTOM. BUT HOER WE ARE AGAIN, LOOKING AT AN AMENDMENT TO ADD 5600 HOUSES TO DEVELOPMENT THAT ALREADY HAS 10,000. AND MAY BE 10% OF IT HAS BEEN BUILT.
THERE'S NO TRACK RECORD OF THE AFFECT THAT THESE 10,000 HOUSES WILL HAVE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND NOW THEY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER OVER 50%. AND I'LL TRY NOT TO USE UP ALL OF MY TIME, I'LL JUST GO TO THE SUPPORT OF 247 PAGES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED ON PAGE 10 UNDER THE DEPARTMENT REVIEW FOR THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, IT SAYS THAT A DETERMINATION OF CONSIST AT THE PRESENT TIMESY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STATE LAW, APPROVAL OR DENIAL ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT MUST NOT BE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. THE DECISIONS OR DENIAL OF LEGISLATIVE LAND POLICY ARE DETERMINED ON THE DECISIONS SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE. YOU ONLY HAVE 10% OF THE DEVELOPMENT PRODUCED. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OF THE AFFECT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, I THINK IF YOU APPROVE THIS ADDITIONAL 56%, THAT DECISION WOULD BE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS.
>> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, MARTIN JENOWICI, PONTE VEDRA BEACH FLORIDA.
>> THE COUNTY FACES A $400 MILLION DEFICIT ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
EVERY MONTH THAT INFLATION TICKS UP, THAT $400 MILLION GROWS, YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THIS PROBLEM OR YET DEALT WITH IT AND IT WAS CREATED BY YOU OR YOUR PREDECESSORS.
SOME OF YOU THAT ARE HERE TODAY HAVE CONTINUED TO APPROVE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. INSTEAD, WE'VE ADDED TO THE PROBLEM WITH EVERY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT GETS APPROVED. WITH THE ADDITION OF 5600 HOMES TO THE 10,000 ALREADY APPROVED IN SILVERLEAF. YOU WOULD BE THROWING GASOLINE ON A FIRE. SILVERLEAF ISN'T LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE CDD FEES, THE LIMITED IMPACT FEES THAT HAVE BEEN DEDICATED ARE ONLY TO PROVIDE ACCESS ROADS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND A PARK IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S IT. SO, WHOSE GOING TO PAY FOR THE ANCILARI ROADS THAT WILL BE NEEDED? THE TAXPAYER IS ALWAYS LEFT HOLDING THE BAG. JUST AS YOU'VE COME TO US RECENTLY AND SAID WE NEED A $0.01 SALES TAX INCREASE. ACTUALLY, 15% OVER THE BASE.
WELL, INFLATION IS GOING UP AND UP AND UP. AND EVERY TIME THE BASE COST OF GOODS GOES UP AND UP, THAT LITTLE PENNY ON THE DOLLAR COSTS MORE. TRY TO BUY AN APPLIANCE, THE STICKER DOESN'T APPLY TODAY, IT APPLIED YESTERDAY. AND IT'S RIDICULOUS AND OUTRAGES.
OKAY. MANY OF YOU CAMPAIGNED STOPPING OVERDEVELOPMENT OR NO NEW TAXES OR STOPPING THE INCREASE IN TAXES. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, ARE YOU GOING TO HONOR YOUR COMMITMENTS THAT YOU MADE TO THE TAX PAYERS OR RUBBER STAMP ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL DIMINISH OUR SAFETY, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND INCREASE THE TAX BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS. THANK
YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. JAN WHICH
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CANKY. >> I'M JIM DAVIS, MY WIFE AND EYE LIVE AT 247 STREET (INDISCERNIBLE) AND I'M HERE WITH SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE OUT HERE SITTING WITH ME. AND WE'VE ENJOYED THIS CONVERSATION, TO BE CANDID WITH YOU. AND WE'VE LEARNED A LOT. BUT, I'VE LOOK AT THIS THIS AS A MACRO LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THIS IS UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL FOR US. OUR BACK GATE IS RIGHT THERE ON 16 AND IT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED SEVERELY BY THE TRAFFIC. AS I LOOKED TO SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS WILL LOOK LIKE, 13,600 NEW PEOPLE IN THE NEW 5600 HOMES WHICH INCLUDES THE 2,000 ET CETERA. THE 13,000 PEOPLE, APPROXIMATELY 2,000 SCHOOL CHILDREN AN AT LEAST 10,000 VEHICLES. SO, I TRIED TO SAY, WHAT DOES THIS REALLY MEAN BECAUSE YOU HEARD ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT THIS ROAD IS FAILING AND THIS AND THAT, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WHAT'S A COMPARABLE COMMUNITY TO 13 HOW PEOPLE? WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, I ACCORDING TO 2020 CENSUS, ATLANTIC BEACH, 13,000 PEOPLE. OKAY. SOUTH DAYTONA, 13,000 PEOPLE, COCOA BEACH, 11,000 PEOPLE, POLATKA 10,000 PEOPLE. ARE WE READY TO PUT POLATKA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COUNTY OR ATLANTIC BEACH UP THERE WITH ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS ET CETERA. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT OUR COUNTY TO LOOK LIKE 25 YEARS FROM NOW? LET ME GIVE YOU A BIGGER PICTURE, ADD THE CURRENT SILVERLEAF IN THERE YOU'RE AT 35,000 PEOPLE.
COOPED TO HAVE FLORIDA ON THE NORTH PORTION OF THIS COUNTY? I DON'T THINK THAT YOU DO. AND I DON'T THINK WE COULD AFFORD AN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT AS WELL. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP: WHOSE THIS GOING TO BENEFIT? NOT THE CURRENT RESIDENTS.
I'M A FLORIDA CRACKER, I'M PROUD OF IT, AND I'VE SEEN ALL THE CHANGE, 26 YEARS IN THE MILITARY, CAME BACK HOME TO BE HERE, OKAY. BECAUSE I LOVED IT. LET ME VERY QUICKLY TELL YOU, HAD THESE NEIGHBORS OVER LAST NIGHT, THEY'VE ALL BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, RAISED THEIR FAMILIES HERE. YOU KNOW WATT CONVERSATION WAS, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO MOVE? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO MOVE? SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS, YOU'RE DRIVING I SAY, YOU, YOU'RE NOT DOING IT, DEVELOPMENT IS DRIVING US, LONG-TERM RESIDENTS OUT OF OUR HOMES. AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS.
>> YES, MA'AM, WELCOME. >> HI, HOW ARE YOU, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KRISTA KEATING JOSEPH AND I LIVE AT 121 LAGOON FOREST DRIVE AND MY CONCERNS ABOUT SILVERLEAF EXPANSION ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHY I'M RUNNING FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT FOUR. I THINK IT'S AWESOME THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE DONE THIS RESEARCH.
IT'S TERRIFIC TO SEE THEM GET OFF THE CATCH AND CARE ABOUT OUR COUNTY. A FAVORITE TERM OF DEVELOPERS AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT PROJECTS ARE "SMART GROWTH", IT'S USED TO DESCRIBE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WANT YOU TO APPROVE. WE ALSO HERE DEVELOPMENT IS "GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY" OR "BALANCED GROWTH. ALL OF THESE ARE". YOU KNOW, THEY HARDLY HAVE WINDOWS IN THE SCHOOLS, THE AIR CONDITIONS DON'T ALWAYS WORK. WE WANT DATA AND HARD EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR DECISIONS. NOT THAT DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOOD OR BAD, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE SILVERLEAF EXPANSION IS HOW DOES IT IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE? HOW IS IT FINANCIALLY BENEFICIAL TO US? BASED ON THE INFORMATION CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO US, THE PROPOSED EXPANSION HAS NO DISCERNIBLE BENEFITS TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE NOW AND IT HAS TOO MANY DRAW BACKS. THERE'S A COMMISSIONER THAT HAS SAID THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL HELP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS UP FRONT. WELL HELP TELLS YOU THAT THEY'RE ALSO COUNTING ON US FOR THE REST, THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, CONSIDERING WE'RE ALREADY BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A TAX INCREASE FOR A $20 MILLION SILVERLEAF PARK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID FOR 100% BY THE DEVELOPER. THEIR COMMUNITY IS AFFECTING AT LEAST FOR A MARKETING T - POINT TO SELL THEIR
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COMMUNITY. THE SO-CALLED PRESERVE FOR SILVERLEAF EXPANSION IS A WETLAND SET ASIDE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR BUILDING. AND IT WON'T BEGIN TO OFF SET 1,728 ACRES THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED. I'VE HEARD JOB CREATION USED AS AN ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF EXPANDED SILVERLEAF DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ALREADY 63,000 HOMES WAITING TO BE BUILT AND THOSE WILL CREATE JOBS NOW AND FOR THE FUTURE. SO, I THINK IT'S TIME TO THINK ABOUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY PEOPLE FIRST, WE NEED THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE WE APPROVE ANYMORE DEVELOPMENTS, IT WAS REPORTED THAT 120 PORTABLE CLASSROOMS LIKE YOU HEARD ARE ON ORDER FOR THIS YEAR AND NEXT, HOW CAN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT EVEN BE CONSIDERED? IT'S UNREASONABLE. OUR CHILDREN'S NEED SHOULD COME BEFORE THE DEVELOPERS BOTTOM LINE AND WE NEED TO PUT QUALITY OF LIFE BEFORE DEVEL DEVELOPERS. THE DEVELOPER OF ANOTHER HUGE PROPOSAL, GREEN BRIAR IS SURE TO BE WAITING IN THE WINGS FOR THAT.>> THANK. >> ST. JOHNS COUNTY PEOPLE
>> MS. TAYLOR, WELCOME. >> CAN WE ZOOM IN A BIT?
>> IF YOU PUT IT OVER THE CIRCLE. IT WILL BE.
>> MY NAME IS IS DORRIS TAYLOR, 208, (INDISCERNIBLE) ROAD, ST. AUGUSTINE, 32086. MY SPEECH IS NOT PRE-WRITTEN THIS MORNING BECAUSE I DISCOVERED THIS DATA THIS MORNING. THIS IS POSTED ON THE ST.
JOHNS COUNTY WEBSITE. THE DATA THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WAS UPDATED WITH 2020 TRAFFIC COUNTIES. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IT WAS JUST PUBLISHED LAST MONTH. CR 16-A IS CURRENTLY AT 124% RATED CAPACITY. THAT WAS IN 2020 I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THERE ARE 56 SECTIONS OF ROAD LISTED ON THIS REPORT. A YEAR AND-A-HALF GOOD.
THERE WERE 37 SECTIONS OF ROAD LISTED AT OVER 80% CAPACITY A YEAR AND-A-HALF AGO. AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT RUSH HOUR ON THE BRIDGE GOING OVER TO GREEN COAST SPRINGS. I'M GOING TO FLIP THROUGH A FEW, CR 210. THERE'S A SECTION CR 16-A, GREENBRIER ROAD, 162%. CR 210, GREENBRIER ROAD TO CAMERON BOULEVARD, 219%. THAT'S WHERE THE TRAFFIC JAMS ARE.
WE KNOW WHERE THESE ARE BECAUSE WE SIT IN TRAFFIC ALREADY EVERY TIME WE GO THERE OR WE AVOID THOSE ROADS ALL TOGETHER. MY HUSBAND WILL DRIVE AN EXTRA 20 MILES TO AVOID SOME OF THESE PLACES. INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY, IT'S WELL OVER 100%. STATE ROAD 13, GREENBRIER ROAD, ROBERTS ROAD, RACE TRACK, THAT'S ONLY 80% A YEAR AND-A-HALF AGO. JUST THINK. NOW, I FIGURE FOR EVERY 1,000 HOMES, WE'RE GOING TO GET AN EXTRA 2,000 CARS. 10,000 HOMES, 20,000 CARS. 150% CAPACITY ALREADY, DOESN'T ADD UP. IT JUST DOESN'T.
SO, I'M HERE TO SAY, PLEASE ADHERE TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE A PLAN. WELL, WE DID HAVE A PLAN BUT IT'S GOT HOLES IN IT SO BAD THAT IF YOU PICKED IT UP, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE RIGHT THERE IT. PLEASE ADHERE TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE ANYMORE EXCEPTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MS. TAYLOR. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> YES, HI, WELCOME. >> HI, MY NAME IS IS RACHEL HAND, 62 LAMBERT ROAD, ST. JOHNS FLORIDA. I'M ALSO A
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CANDIDATE FOR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. AFTER CAMPAIGNING I WAS ABLE TO GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SPEAK TO A LOT OF PARENTS. I'M HERE TO MAKE YOU AWARE FACE-TO-FACE IN CASE YOU ARE NOT AWARE, BUT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR TEACHERS ARE SUFFERING. OUR SCHOOLS ARE BURSTING AT THE SEEMS. WE NEED YOU TO REALIZE THAT YOUR APPROVAL FOR ANY OVERDEVELOPMENT AND YOUR REFUSAL TO SLOW DOWN IS AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITY IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE AND THIS I WOULD ASSUME WILL DEFINITELY DO THE SAME THING. BECAUSE OF OVERDEVELOPMENT, OUR TEACHERS ARE OVERWHELMED OUR CLASS SIZES ARE INCREASING AND WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCING A TEACHER SHORTAGE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE, UM, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT QUALIFIED THAT ARE ACTUALLY TEACHING OUR CHILDREN.SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS ARE BEING HIRED FOR LONG-TERM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TEACHERS, THERE ARE TOO MANY STUDENTS BEING PUT INTO OUR SCHOOLS. OUR CHILDREN ARE GETTING REZONED MULTIPLE TIMES, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD PROBABLY HAPPEN IN THIS DISTRICT, AND IT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THEIR MENTAL HEALTH IF THEY CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO BE REZONED, OUR CHILDREN ARE LEARNING IN PORTABLES WHICH IS AN EXTENSION OF THE SCHOOL NOT IN THE SCHOOL BUT IN THE PARKING LOT. AS A NEW RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, I CAME HERE WITH MY FAMILY BECAUSE OF WHAT I EXPERIENCED, THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE, THE AMAZING ENVIRONMENT, AND FOR THE BEST SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, RIGHT? IF WE DON'T STOP OR SLOW DOWN, OR CATCH UP ON WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THAT TITLE WILL SOON BE LONG GONE AND THAT WON'T BE A MARKETING STRATEGY ANYMORE.
OUR CHILDREN ARE SUFFERING, OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM IS SUFFERING AND WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER FACE THE HARD TRUTH THAT THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR COMMUNITY. DON'T TURN OUR NATION'S OLDEST CITY INTO JACKSONVILLE'S NEWEST SUBURB. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AMERICA FIRST, BUT WE NEED TO PUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY,
FIRST. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. >> NICOLE, CROSBY, 1169 NECK ROAD IN PONTE VEDRA. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A VIDEO OF PARCEL 38 WHICH IS ONE OF FIVE PARCELS SLATED TO GO UNDER THE BULL DOZER IF THE SILVERLEAF EXPANSION IS APPROVED. I HOPE IT GIVES YOU GREAT PAUSE, THE IMPACT OF YOUR DECISION IS VAST IN SCOPE AND PERMANENT.
IT WON'T BE REVERSED, NOR WILL THE ARE LOSS OF HABITAT, WILD LIFE, TREES AND PER MEABLE SURFACES, ALSO PERMANENT WILL BE THE INCREASE IN POPULATION OF OUR COUNTY ABOVE AND BEYOND THOSE WHO'LL OCCUPY THE 63,000 ALREADY APPROVED HOMES NOT YET BUILT. THE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC AND AIR POLLUTION, AND NOW THIS IS SHOWING THE SILVERLEAF THAT'S BEING WORKED ON NOW.
THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IF YOU VOTE YES TODAY.
THE INCREASE IN AIR POLLUTION AND WATER POLLUTION WILL BE PERMANENT TOO. OIL AND GAS ALOCK WITH PESTICIDES, LAWN FERTILIZERS AND OTHER CHEMICALS WILL POLLUTE OUR WATERWAYS, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED IN THIS IS APPROVED. INFRASTRUCTURE DEFICITS THAT YOU TOLD US WERE REASONS WE'RE A HALF BILLION DOLLARS IN THE HOLE, HOW CAN YOU GIVE THIS MANY HOMES SERIOUS CONSIDERATION AT THIS TIME. IS WATER CONSUMPTION BEING FACTORED INTO THESE EXPANSIONS?
>> WHERE WILL OUR WATER COME FROM IN THE FUTURE? THE SILVERLEAF DEVELOPER WHO IS ALSO OUR STATE SENATOR WAS STATED EARLIER BUT, I THINK IT BEARS REPETITION, WROTE A BILL THAT ATTEMPTED TO REDUCE ABAMOUNT OF TIME THAT A BUILDER COULD BE HELD RSPONSIBLE FOR AFFECTS.
THIS YEAR, THE SILVERLEAF DEVELOPER JUST TRIED TO REDUCE IT TO FIVE YEARS. YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AS HE SAID EARLIER, A HUGE RED FLAG. WE ELECTED YOU AND WE RELY ON YOU TO PROTECT US FROM UNSCRAP LAOS DEVELOPER.
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SHE SEES THE MOST PROBLEMS WITH VOLUME BUILDERS. THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF DEVELOPER THAT OUR COUNTY SHOULD SEEK TO DO BUSINESS WITH, BUT EVEN IF THE QUALITY OF HOMES WAS NOT A QUESTION AT ALL, THE SILVERLEAF EXPANSION IS STILL I WILL ADVISED. WE SHOULD EXPERIENCE THE IMPACTS OF 63,000 HOMES IN OUR COUNTY BEFORE WE CONSIDER APPROVING 5600 MORE. IT'S NOT ADVANTAGEOUS TO US, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE NOW AND DOES NOT IMMEDIATE OBJECTIVE A 125 C. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE MAILING WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT AN UNANIMOUS MAILING.THAT WAS FALSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, MS. CROSBY. >> YES, SIR.
>> MY ARNOLD SHEEN, (INDISCERNIBLE) IN I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY GIVING YOU A TERM MORAL HAZARD, IT'S THE FIND OF LACK OF INCENTIVE TO GUARD AGAINST RISK WHERE ONE IS PROTECTED FROM IT'S CONSEQUENCES.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUR SURTAX DOES BECAUSE THE INCENTIVES OR THE IMPACT FEES, THE DEVELOPERS OF THE PAST PAID PROVED TO BE INADEQUATE. SO, NOW YOU'RE ASKING THE TAX PAYERS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND MAKE THE COUNTY WHOLE SO THAT IT CAN MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS. YOUR IMPACT FEE POSTED ON YOUR WEBSITE IS DATED 2018. AND THOSE IMPACT FEES CAN'T POSSIBLE BE ACCURATE IN LIGHT OF THE INFLATION THAT'S TAKE BE PLACE IN THE FOUR YEAR HE IS HENCE. SO, THIS SURTAX IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR 10 YEARS. WHEN THAT 10 YEARS ENDS, THE IMPACT FEES THAT SILVERLEAF IS PAYING PRESENTLY ARE BASED ON 2018 IF I UNDERSTAND IT DIRECTLY, AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PEOPLE AND ASK FOR RENEWAL OF THE SURTAX IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEFICIT THAT ROSE BECAUSE OF INSUFFICIENT FEES BEING PAID. SO, THE DAY OF RECKONING, YOU HAVE DAYS OF RECKONING APPROACHING, ONE IS AUGUST 23RD, AND THE OTHER IS NOVEMBER THE 8TH. AUGUST 23RD IS THE PRIMARY AND THE NOVEMBER THE 8TH IS THE ELECTION. AND YOUR VOTE TODAY WILL BE JUDGED THE WISDOM OF YOUR VOTE WILL BE JUDGED BY THE VOTERS. GREETINGS,
>> I'M ROBERT 8071 WEST 9TH STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA AND I'M JOINED BY THE ELWOOD COMMUNITY. AND I'M JOINED BY THE ELWOOD COMMUNITY CITIZEN BOARD TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE SILVERLEAF DEVELOPMENT. THE A ANDY GRIFFETH SHOW WAS AIRED AND RAN UNTIL 1968. AND THE SHOW WAS THE NUMBER ONE RATE IT HAD SHOW ACCORDING TO THE NIELSEN'S REPORT, FROM CBS.
THE GREATEST MEMORY THAT I HAVE FROM THAT SITCOM WAS THE LITTLE DOWN CALLED MAYBERRY AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ELWOOD FLORIDA IS. HE REMINDS ME OF MAYBERRY IN 2022. THE TOWN WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1954, IT WAS ESTABLISHED FROM A COMMUNITY THAT SERVED THE GREATER ST.
JOHNS COUNTY WITH HARD WORKERS, TAX PAYERS AND IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME TODAY. MY GRANDFATHER PURCHASED THE FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY BACK IN 1954 AND IT STILL LOOKS THE SAME TODAY. ELWOOD HAS NO FIRE HYDRANTS,
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NO INFRASTRUCTURE, NO DRAINOFF, IT HAS NO PLAN, NO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THAT COMMUNITY. WE HAD PEOPLE FROM ELWOOD THAT ATTENDED ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO SCHOOL WITH TIM TEE BOW. THEY HAD TO GO BACK TO THAT COMMUNITY OF ELWOOD FLORIDA. SILVERLEAF WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN ELWOOD AS FAR AS DRAINAGE AND PARKS AND RECS IS CONCERNS AND THEY ALSO HAVE AN OPEN PLAN FOR THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. I'M ASKING IF YOU COMMISSIONERS TODAY TO JUST LOOK AT YOUR HEART AND ASK YOURSELF WHY ARE ALL THE MOSS SCHEIE TOES MIGRATING TO ELWOOD LIKE THE PEOPLE ARE MY DRATING TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY? IT'S SO DARK IN ELWOOD AT NIGHT, I CAN'T SEE MY HAND WHEN I FLASH IF IN MY FACE. I WAS OUT THERE THE OTHER NIGHT AND I THOUGHT A BEAR WAS WHISPERING BEHIND ME. I'M ASKING YOU TO TOUCH YOUR HEART AND ASK YOURSELF THATQUESTION. >> YES, SIR? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES, SIR, IT'S YOUR TURN, PLEASE.
>> GOOD MORNING, DARRYL BASSFORD, 8271 HARDWOOD
LANDING ROAD. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> I'M NOT AS HE ELEQUAINT AS OTHERS HERE. THIS NEIGHBOR, HERE IS A LAWYER, SHE PUT UP A SLIDE AND SAID THAT PARCEL 40 WAS GOING TO BE BUILT TO THE SAME DENSITY AS IT IT ONLY BUTTS SILVERLEAF. THIS IS THE SAME PROPOSAL AS 2021 BUT THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTRY HAS CHANGED. THE ROADS WERE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA, THEY WEREN'T BUILT AS A FAVOR TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY. THEY'RE TURNING THOSE ROADS OVER TO Y'ALL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD OUT UNTIL 2047, AND THEY WILL HAVE DUMP TRUCKS, SHEET ROCK TRUCKS, CONCRETE TRUCKS, RUNNING UP AND DOWN THOSE ROADS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REBUILD THEM ON MY DIME. THE ROAD MONEY AND THE PARK MONEY IS CREDITED BACK TO THEM AGAINST THEIR IMPACT FEES EVERY TIME THEY PUT IN A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO, THEY REALLY DIDN'T GIVE YOU A WHOLE LOT, DID THEY? THEY'RE JUST DRAWING ON IT LATER. THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR HOUSING IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THERE'S MERELY A WANT FOR HOUSING IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
WE DON'T HAVE THE JOBS TO BACK IT UP. THE STATE REVIEW, I BELIEVE WAS THE UNIVERSE GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING. YOU VOTED AGAINST SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS LATELY, BUT WILL YOU STAND UP AND VOTE AGAINST DW HUDSON? WILL ONE OF YOU, ANY OF YOU. AND I KNOW THAT I'M ASKING A QUESTION AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO, BUT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BECAUSE I'VE SAT IN THE BACK OF THIS ROOM AND WATCHED FOR MOST OF THIS COMMENTARY, AND YOUR BODY LANGUAGE, YOU COULDN'T BE MORE DISINTERESTED, AND I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE YOU MADE UP YOUR MINDS ALREADY.
BUT, AS THE MAN BEFORE ME STATED, NOVEMBER YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO FIND OUT FROM YOUR VOTERS WHAT HAPPENS. BECAUSE, WHEN YOU TOOK YOUR OATH OF OFFICE, YOU ACCEPTED A F RESPONSIBILITY AND YOUR NOT
HONORING IT. >> MY NAME IS IS PAUL GRINER AND I LIVE AT 6201 STATE ROAD. I'M
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62-YEAR-OLD. AND I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. AND MY GRANDFATHER HAD A DIARY FARM. BACK IN THE '60S AND '70S WE THOUGHT GOING TO TOWN WAS GOING TO 16 BECAUSE THEY HAD A DENNYS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHEN PEOPLE STARTED PROPERTY AROUND MY GRANDFATHERS DIARY FARM, WE DIDN'T TRY AND STOP PEOPLE. AND WE HAD A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE HERE.BECAUSE ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS A LOT TO OFFER, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO WHY WOULD YOU PENALIZE SOMEBODY THAT'S PUTTING THEIR PAYING FOR THE ROADS, THEY CAN'T EVEN BUILD THE HOUSES UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S IN. AND THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. IS THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO, ONCE YOU GET HERE, NOBODY ELSE CAN COME? THAT'S NOW HOW IT WORKS. AND PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU ADDED A IS IT (INDISCERNIBLE) TO THE AREA WHERE SILVERLEAF IS AT, DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN PALACA? THERE'S NOT A THRIVING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE THERE AND THE REASON PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN THIS AREA, IT'S BECAUSE IT HAS SO MUCH TO OFFER. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ONCE YOU GET HERE, YOU DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE LOVES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE HERE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. BUT DON'T PUSH AWAY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY FOR A PLACE TO LIVE. THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE ROADS. NOBODY ELSE IS STANDING UP TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THESE THINGS, AND SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT THAT ON 2209, THAT WAS FOR HIS BENEFIT? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HE'S BEEN PUTTING ALL OF THIS MONEY OUT AND THEY'VE ONLY BEEN BUILDING HOUSES IN THERE A YEAR.
EERYBODY IN THE COUNTY GETS TO USE THE ROAD. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE HERE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT WHY? WHY DO YOU WANT TO STOP OTHER PEOPLE FROM COMING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, SIR.
>> THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. WELCOME.
>>> HI, MY NAME IS IS KAREN CHAPPELLE, AND I LIVE AT 6975 COUNTY ROAD 16-A, RIGHT NEXT TO ELWOOD. AND DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM PARCEL 38. I WAS SCEPTICAL A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I SAW THE SILVERLEAF PLAY OUT. BUT THE FIRST TIME THAT I DROVE THROUGH THAT NEW ROAD AND I WAS ABLE TO GET TO MY JOB 20 MINUTES SOONER AND SEE ALL THE PEOPLE AND THE STRUCTURES AND THE BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE WITH JOBS FLOURISHING OUT IN SILVERLEAF, I'M 100% FOR THIS PROJECT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE GROWTH ISSUES AND I KNOW THAT WE COULD TACKLE THEM AND BUILD SCHOOLS AND WHATEVER IT NEEDS, WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO IT. ALL THE MONEY THAT THESE NEW HOMES WILL BRING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE TAXES THEY WILL PAY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GAME. THANK
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> YES, MA'AM, WELCOME. >> MICHELLE FRASER, 1392 LAKEWOOD DRIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THIS COUNTY HAS A SHORT SUPPLY OF. ONE OF THEM IS UNCLOGGED ROADS. AND AS WE JUST HEARD SO MANY OF THE ROADS ARE OVER 100% CAPACITY. IT'S UNTHINKABLE THAT YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO THE ROADS. ANOTHER THING IN SHORT SUPPLY IS UNCROWD IT HAD CLASSROOMS, AGAIN IT'S UNTHINKABLE TO ME THAT YOU WOULD ADD MORE TO THOSE CLASSROOMS, MORE STUDENTS, OKAY, YOU ARE AT RISK OF LOSING ONE OF THE BIGGEST ASSETS THIS COUNTY HAS AND THAT IS OUR A-RATED SCHOOL SYSTEM. EVERY TIME YOU VOTE FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT, IT WOULDN'T TAKE MUCH TO LOSE IT AND IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET IT BACK.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE IN SHORT SUPPLY OF AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS ARE COUNT COMMISSIONERS WHO PUT THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS AHEAD OF THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF THEIR DEVELOPERS.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> YES, SIR.
>> GOOD MORNING, ALVIN JACKSON, 747 STREET ELWOOD
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FLORIDA. BORN AND RAISED IN ST. AUGUSTINE IN 1953. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING TODAY ABOUT THEM MOVING INTO ST. AUGUSTINE SO THEY HAVE BECOME PART OF OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEM ALSO. BUT KNOW THEY'RE SPEAKING AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO MOVE HERE. WHY? THE REASON THEY MOVED HERE WAS BECAUSE ST. AUGUSTINE WAS A SLOWLY RETIREMENT PLACE. GROWTH IS GOING ON EVERYWHERE. NOT JUST IN ST. AUGUSTINE, BUT EVERYWHERE.WHEN I TRAVEL, I SEE GROWTH GOING ON. SO, WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS NOT TRY AND BLOCK THE DEVELOPER BUT TO GET WITH THE DUFFELER TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE. BECAUSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE. I ADVICE THE BOARD TODAY TO CONSIDER THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE GOING UP AGAINST BUT THERE'S A SOLUTION. LET'S THANK GOD THAT WE COULD GET TO THAT POINT.
>> THAT YOU CAN, SIR FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> YES, MA'AM? IT'S YOUR TURN. WELCOME.
>>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS IS JENNIFER RIVERIA, 185 AZALEA POINT DRIVE SOUTH. I MOVED TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY A YEAR AGO. I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THAT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO MOVE FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY, I'M FROM MIAMI-DADE COUNTY AND I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF YOU DON'T SLOW DOWN YOUR GROWTH. I SPENT FOUR HOURS COMMUTING TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY IN MIAMI.
MY SON WAITED IN LINE FOR TWO MONTHS AT HIS SCHOOL TO GET A SCHEDULE CHANGE BECAUSE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A DUPLICATE CLASS. THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN ST.
JOHNS COUNTY IF YOU DO NOT SLOW THE GROWTH. SILVERLEAF IS ALREADY APPROVED FOR THEIR 10,900 HOMES. I'M OPPOSED TO THE EXPANSION WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO SUPPORT THE EXPANSION. I WILL NOT BE VOTING YES TO THE SALES TAX INCREASE SO, YOU CAN'T COUNT ON THE MONEY FOR THAT TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MS. RIVERA, WELCOME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
>> MY NAME IS GIFF GROSSE BY FROM 1169 NECK ROAD IN PONTE VEDRA. I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING TODAY WRITTEN BY A PARAMEDIC WHO WORKS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. I LOVE THE TIMING, NATIONAL EMS MONTH. SO, I FEEL PRIVILEGED TO BE SHARING HIS WORDS. "NOT SURE IF YOU ARE AWARE, BUT, NOT ONLY WILL THE 5600 HOMES BUILT AFFECT OUR LAND AND ENVIRONMENT AND TRAFFIC, BUT OUR ALREADY UNDERFUNDED SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES, AND FIRE-FIGHTERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROPERLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS EFFECTIVELY AS WE HAVE FOR YEARS. HE GOES ONTO SAY, ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THE LOWEST PAID COUNTY FOR FIRE RESCUE, THESE ARE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ANSWER TO THE COMMUNITY ON YOUR WORST DAY, STARTING SALARY OF A FIRE-FIGHTER IS $14.07 AN HOUR. PERSONNEL ARE FLEEING ST. JOHNS COUNTY BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTY. HE GOES ONTO SAY PLEASE EMPHASIZE THAT BOTTOM LINE FIRE AND SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES CANNOT EFFECTIVELY COVER THE AREA PROPERLY AND YOUR INSURANCE RATES WILL RISE." HE MAKES ANOTHER POINT "THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD ONE NEW STATION IN A TWO-FOUR YEAR PERIOD FOR SILVERLEAF. I THINK HE THINKS THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. HE GOES ONTO SAY WE'RE TRAPPED SO THIN WE HAVE LIEUTENANTS WITH AS MUCH AS 8 YEARS ON THE JOB LEAVING ST. JOHNS FIRE TO GO TO JACKSONVILLE TO START AS ROOKIE FIREMEN BECAUSE THEY WILL GET PAID MORE IN 3 TO
FOUR YEARS TYPE. >> WE'RE LOSING WELL
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TRAINED PARAMETICS BECAUSE OF LOW TALLVIES, SO, THE CRISIS IS, FEWER AND FEWER TRAINED PEOPLE COMING TO THE AID OF MORE AND MORE CITIZENS, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK OUT. HE ENDS BY SAYING, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP FOR US PUBLIC SERVANTS, I'VE SERVED FOR MANY YEARS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SO, I'M HONORED TO SHARE HIS WORDS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY PLEASE AIR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY. IT SOUNDS LIKE A CRISIS.>> CHARLES DAVIS, AND I'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL YEARS AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING PUSHED, PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM EVERYWHERE TO TRY AND BUY MY PROPERTY, 11 ACRES, I DIVIDED IT UP FOR MY KIDS FO MY GIRLS AND PUT A HOME ON IT. AND NOW, THE TAXES ARE UP SO MUCH, IT'S INCREDIBLE. WHEN I CAME BACK FROM VIETNAM, I WANTED TO SERVE THE COUNTRY AGAIN, BUT IT WASN'T POSSIBLE. MY FATHER WAS IN BAD SHAPE. I GOT INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS A VOLUNTEER AND DID 15 YEARS. THE COUNTY FOR SOME REASON SAID THAT THEY COULDN'T AFFORD THE VOLUNTEERS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY WERE PAYING US $4 A CALL WHICH WAS LUDICROUS, WE COULD HAVE USED THOSE PEOPLE AGAIN AND AGAIN OVER THE LAST 10-15 YEARS, AND IT'S WITHIN THEM TO EVEN DO THAT. (INDISCERNIBLE) GET ANOTHER VOLUNTEER PROGRAM GOING SO WITH THE HELP OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S MOVING IN HERE. AND, I WOULD I COULD STILL HELP PEOPLE. (INDISCERNIBLE) IN '98 I WAS ON FIRES ALL NIGHT. I HELPED TO DELIVER CHILDREN.
AND IT'S JUST MY NEIGHBORS DOWN THE ROAD THERE, IN ELWOOD, THEY'RE PART OF MY FAMILY. IT CONSIDER THAT SILVERLEAF IS RIGHT MINUTED MY MAILBOX. AND THE ROAD IS IN BAD SHAPE AND THE COUNTY WON'T FIX IT AND IT GOES OVER THE ROAD AND LEAVES A HUMP ABOUT THAT HIGH AND THE DUMP TRUCKS IF THEY CAN AVOID THAT THEY GO OVER AND CROSS THE YELLOW LINES TO AVOID THAT BECAUSE THAT BACK TAILGATE STARTS AT 5:00 A.M. I HAVE A SUPPLY OF TOOLS, HAMMERS, SAWS, YOU NAME IT THAT BOUNCES OUT OF THOSE TRAILERS BECAUSE OF ROAD CONDITIONS AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THEM NOT FIXING IT. WELL, WE WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO LEAVE AND IT WAS TAKEN OWL ABOUT FIVE YEARS AFTER I WAS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE IN LINE
>> KEVIN COMPTON, 4215 (INDISCERNIBLE) ROAD. IT'S RIGHT IN THE HEART OF RULE GULF VILLAGE. IT IS A DEVELOPERS LIE. THEY'RE FULL OF IT, AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR SO THAT YOU SAY YES AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. I WAS PROMISED A BUFFER, I HAVE NO BUFFER, I DON'T HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO AMENITIES AS THE NEIGHBORS DO AROUND MY HOUSE. THE TRAFFIC IS A DISASTER. IT'S A NIGHTMARE. SCHOOLS ARE OVERPOPULATED.
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THE PUBLIX IS OVER RUN IT'S DISGUSTING. Y'ALL GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW. PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT, PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE THEIR WHOLE LIVES.IT'S BAD. THIS SHOULD BE OUR HOMES, I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE."
>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. YES, MA'AM?
>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS IS MELINDA PEOPLES AND I LIVE AT 6231 ARMSTRONG ROAD ELTON, FLORIDA. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE SILVERLEAF PROJECT AND I THINK THAT THE ZELENSKYY PROJECT COMPANY HAVE ADDRESSED THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES, SCHOOLS, WHATEVER AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH ARMSTRONG COMMUNITY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER PROJECTS OUT THERE AND IF Y'ALL GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITIES AND THE NEEDS AND THEY WILL THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME UP WHAT A SOLUTION TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THE
COMMENTS, I APPRECIATE IT. >> YES, SIR, WELCOME.
>> I'M CRAIG SOURCE AND I'M LIVING 348 CRESTVIEW DRIVE.
YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TAKE US ALL BACK IN TIME A BIT, OKAY. IN 1988, WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAD A GOLF CLUB COMMUNITY OPEN UP. AND AFTER THAT WE HAD SOUTH HAMPTON, ST. JOHN'S GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB, SOUTHLIKE, JOHNS CREEK, STONE HIRST, ALL THE COMMUNITIES AT THAT TIME WHEN THEY CAME ON BOARD, I USED TO SAY, BECAUSE I BOUGHT MY FIRST HOUSE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN SOUTH HAMPTON AND THE WEIRD THING WAS THAT WE HAD TO HAVE STATE TROOPERS DIRECTING TRAFFIC, BUT THIS TOO PASSED. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GROW INTO THESE THINGS. AND A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT I HEAR TODAY ARE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ROADS AND THE IMPACT OF THE ROADS. THAT'S A COMBINATION OF THE COUNTY, THE DOT AND THE DEVELOPERS TRYING TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER. AND I THINK THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME. SINCE THEN, THE TRAFFIC CALMED DOWN ON COUNTY ROAD 210 AND FROM WALLED DONE MACE, BEACH WALK AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER TIME. THE DEVELOPERS ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN, AND THE COUNTY'S TRYING TO KEEP UP.
YOU CAN NO MORE STOP THE GROWTH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAN YOU CAN STOP THE CHILD FROM GROWING. ALL YOU COULD DO IS BE SURE TO GET BIGGER CLOTHES AND SHOES AND IT FITS THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES THAT WE'RE GOING THERE. I WORK IN SILVERLEAF, AND MY GRANDDAUGHTER LIVES IN SILVERLEAF. MY KIDS GREW UP IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOLS. I'M FOR THIS, THIS DEVELOPERS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN IN MY OPINION AS FAR AS TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY CAN TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS COMPLAINED AND OBJECTED FROM CIMERON TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND WEIGH IT OUT AND ADDRESS THAT. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING BAD AGAINST THAT, IT'S JUST THAT THIS DEVELOPER, YOU CAN'T PENALIZE THEM, AT THE SAME TIME YOU CAN'T DENY PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO COME TO ST.
JOHNS COUNTY FOR THE SAME REASONS WE BOUGHT HERE, HAD THE COUNT COMMISSIONERS BACK THEM SAID NO MORE GROWTH, AND HELD THE LINE ALL THE WAY. 99% OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T LIVE HERE RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PLAN GOING INTO THE FUTURE, I THINK IF EVERYONE CALMS DOWN AND THINKS IT THROUGH, ALL RIGHT, WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. YES, SIR, IT'S
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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, WELCOME. >> IT'S STILL MORNING.
WE'RE STILL IN THE AM. >> WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO
THE NOON HOUR. >> I'M CASEY, 208 LABELLIA ROAD, ST. AUGUSTINE. I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS AND IT AMAZES ME HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS IN THIS COUNTY SINCE I MOVED HERE. I'M NOT 50 YEARS HERE, I'M SIX OR SEVEN. BUT, I'M LISTENING TO THE DEVELOPER AND HE SPENT $100 MILLION MAY BE $200 MILLION TO GET EVERYTHING READY FOR THIS PROJECT BUT A FEW PEOPLE PAID ATTENTION TO THE NUMBERS, HE'S BUILDING 60,000 HOUSES AT $500,000 A PIECE. THAT'S BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, HE CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR THE ROADS. JOHNNY COUNTIES, 9470 BARREL FACTORY ROAD. .
>> I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN UP EARLIER, BUT I WAS SITTING BY JOE AND I WAS AFRAID HE WAS STILL MAD AT HELL, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BOTTOM HER HIM. HE DID A GREAT PRESENTATION.
IT'S THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT AND WE SEE IT COMES FROM WHAT LOOKS LIKE, IMPACT FEES DON'T WORK. WE HAVE THE PROOF HERE THAT IT'S BEEN MANIPULATED SINCE THE LATE '90S TO CAUSE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO GROW. AND IT'S HERE AND WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE DEFICIT, SO THAT DOESN'T CIPHER TOO GOOD. IMPACT FEES ARE NOTHING BUT TAXES. THE ONLY ONE THAT IS PAY TAXES ARE US, WE THE PEOPLE. IT ALSO GETS TRANSFERRED TO US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE HAVE A HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM AS FAR AS COMMERCE IS CONCERNED WITH THE VEHICLES, THE TRAFFIC. THE TIME IS TAKES TO GET AROUND A SHORT DISTANCE AT THAT. ALL THIS NEW GROWTH IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT MORE IMPACT ON THOSE ROADS BEFORE THESE HOUSES GET THERE AND IT'S CONTINUING TO IMPACT THEM NOW. THE MONEY THAT I SEE UP THERE ARE HARD DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE GIVING TO YOU RIGHT NOW ON WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING TOWARDS THIS AMENDED PART OF IT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND JUST A FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW HOW FAR THAT'S GOING TO GO. SO, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE SAME AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE OR ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH INFLATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THE BIGGEST THING IS, I GUESS, MAY BE WE PUT Y'ALL IN THIS PLACE FOR LEADERSHIP AND DIRECTION AND FOR GOOD DECISIONS. AND, WE CAN'T FAULT Y'ALL FOR ANYTHING THAT'S GONE ON IN THE PAST, BUT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE HANDS CAN BE TIED BY THAT EITHER, I BELIEVE THAT WE GIVE YOU THE POWER THROUGH THAT CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE COUNTY. A LOT IT HAVE STATE LAW HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND WHAT ALL'S BEEN APPROVED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE, WE'RE A SOVEREIGN COUNTY OR WE ARE FOR RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SOLVENT, BUT WE'RE SOVEREIGN STILL. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE A STAND AND DECIDE WETHER OR NOT ALL OF THAT IS RIGHT FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY RIGHT NOW AND MAY BE TAKE A STEP BACK AND TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO LET'S SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND BRING US UP TO SPEED.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR
>> MY NAME IS IS BRENDA GRI IF, GRIFFEY. UNLIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I DON'T LIKE GROWTH, BUT I APPRECIATE GROWTH WITH RULES. I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT I HATE IS WHEN I PASS ARBOR MILLS AND THOSE THREE SUBDIVISIONS AND THE ROAD IS WIDENED BY TURN LANES. YOU GO DOWN 16, THOSE SMALL DEVELOPERS GET AWAY FROM REALLY INCREASING THE ROAD STRUCTURE. THEY JUST PUT IN TURN LANES. AND THEN YOU'RE EXPECTED TO (INDISCERNIBLE) SO IF YOU DISAPPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHOSE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN ROADS, YOU SHOULD BE DISAPPROVING ALL THE SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS, SAY, YOU HAVE A SMALL DEVELOPMENT THAT PUTS IN 400 HOUSES AND YOU APPROVE 10 OF THEM. WELL, THAT'S AS BIG AS THE SILVERLEAF ADDITION.
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THEY'RE NOT PUTTING IN ROADS, BECAUSE THEY GET BY WITH PUTTING IN TURN LANES. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT MR. HUDSON HAS WORKED WITH MY HUSBAND AND MY NEIGHBORS AND CAME UP WITH AGREEMENTS AND CAME UP WITH STUFF TO WORKED WITH US TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.AND I AGREE WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO SAY, THAT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE MANY COOING UP HERE THAT MOVED HERE THEMSELVES FOR THE AT ATTRIBUTES OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AND THEY'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE GROWTH. MY HUSBAND WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE HIS MOTHER WAS RAISED HERE AND HIS GRAND PARENTS CAME HERE LONG BEFORE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS A BLIP ON THE MAP. NO ONE LIVED ON THE BEACH BECAUSE IT WAS NOT HEARD OF BECAUSE OF HURRICANES. SO, I THINK IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS, YOU GOT TO DISAPPROVE OVERING ELSE AND I'M SUPPORTING IT. THAT YOU
COMMENTS, I APPRECIATE THAT. >> YES, MA'AM. WELCOME?
>> KIM KENNEDALE, 856 EAGLE POINT DRIVE. I LIVE IN ST.
JOHN'S GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB WHICH ABUTS SILVERLEAF. I WANTED TO GET A HOUSE PUT THE KIDS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND WANTED NO NEW DEVELOPMENT AFTER I MOVED IN. I REALIZED I WAS BEIE HYPOCRITICAL. I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN THIS COUNTY OVER 20 YEARS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUD AND A DRI. MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS A PUD. BACK THEN THE THRESHOLD WAS 800 HOMES. SO THE DEVELOPER STOPPED AT 799. HE DID THIS TO CIRCUMVENT THE RULES TO NOT BRING EXTRA IMPACT FEES TOWARDS THE ROADS. WE HAVE 13 PUDS WEST OF I-95. AND THE SMALL DEVELOPMENTS ARE THE REASON FOR THE SCHOOL REZONING ISSUES AND THE TRAFFIC ISSUES. VERSUS, SILVERLEAF, A DRI, WHICH IS BRINGING MULTIPLE SCHOOL SITES AND A MAJOR ROADWAY NETWORK SYSTEM AND BRINGING MAJOR BUSINESSES FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT DESPERATELY WANT A BUSINESS IN THE NORTHWEST. ALSO I'D LIKE TO MENTION, I KNOW THAT THE DRIS ARE BIG. SILVERLEAF WANTS TO DO 15,000 HOMES.
BUT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THIS THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF HAVING THE DEVELOPER BREAK UP THE SMALL PIECES AND WE HAVE MORE PATCH WORK QUILT SITUATION LIKE NEAR WHERE I LIVE ON THE 210 CORRIDOR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A FEW COMMENTS MADE. 19% OF THE KIDS ARE IN PORTABLES, NOT SURPRISED, AGAIN NOT THE PROBLEM OF THIS DRI THAT'S NEWS, IT'S PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE EAST COAST BELTWAY, THE FDOT ORIGINALLY HAD IT PLOTTED THROUGH CIMERON. EVERYBODY THERE AT THAT MEETING SAID PUT IT THROUGH SILVER LEAF PAID FOR FOR THAT SITUATION. IDEAL WITH SCHOOL REZONING EVERY TWO YEARS. I SAT IN A SCHOOL BOARD MEETING WHERE DOUG MILLER PRESENTED AND SAID WE HAVE FIVE SCHOOL SITES, IF YOU WANT US TO BRING MORE, WE WILL. NOT ONE SCHOOL MEMBER OPENED THEIR MOUTH, NOT THE SUPERINTENDENT OR ANYBODY, THEY APPROVED IT. I KNOW I MISDIRECTED MY FRUSTRATION TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE FINAL APPROVAL. THAT IS MISDIRECTION, THE SCHOOL BOARD IS ACCOUNTABLE TO SAY WE NEED MORE SCHOOL SITES.
AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE SOUTHWEST, I HOPE THAT YOU
APPROVE THIS DRI. >> THANK YOU.
>> SHERRY BADGER, 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE.
GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL GOT A BIG BREAKDOWN PROBLEM WITH THE STUFF THAT I'VE SEEN PRESENTED TODAY WITH THE 2018-2020 MAP AND TRAFFIC COUNTIES HAVE BEEN USED, LET'S SEE AT YOUR LAST MEETING THE CITY TRAFFIC COUNT WASN'T ADDED TO THE COUNTY TRAFFIC COUNT. NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU LIKE TO HEAR THIS, THIS IS YOUR STAFF, OKAY. THESE -- WHY? WHY DON'T YOU HAVE UP-TO-DATE PAPERWORK? WHY ARE YOU USING 2018-2020?
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GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL ARE DROPPING THE BALL. GET ONYOUR STAFF, THANK YOU. >>> THANK YOU, MISS BADGER,
>> YES, SIR, WELCOME. >> MY NAME IS IS SPENCER FORD AND I LIVE AT 8421 HARVARD LANDING ROAD. MY PROPERTY IS ONE OF THE BORDER PROPERTIES MENTIONED IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE EXTENSION THAT RESULTED IN LOWER DENSITY, IT'S DOWN TO TWO HOMES PER ACRE ON THE BOUNDARY, THAT'S A RESULT OF MR. HUDSON INVITING MY NEIGHBOR AND I. IT'S A PARTIAL RESULT, I KNOW HE'S TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE PEOPLE. WELCOMED US TO HIS HOME, HE WAS AIMABLE TO AN AMENDMENT TO A DENSITY ALONG THAT PROPERTY BORDER AND I APPRECIATE HIS CONSIDERATION AND WILLINGNESS TO MEET US ON THAT REQUEST. IT WOULD BE NICE TO TURN BACK TIME, 20 OR 30 YEARS IN THIS COUNTY OR MAY BE ALL OF FLORIDA GIVING MORE TIME TO BETTER LAYOUT A WELL DESIGNED PLAN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S MIND BLOWING THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THIS COUNTY'S EXPERIENCED IN THIS TIME FRAME, SADLY, LIKE OTHERS HAVE STATED A LOT OF THAT GROWTH IS OFF THE STATE AND COUNTY ROAD THAT DON'T ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC FLOW. ALTERNATIVELY, I SEE LARGER WELL PLANNED COMMUNITIES, SILVERLEAF BEING EXAMPLES TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ROADWAYS THAT THE COUNTY DOES REALLY NEED. SOME OF THESE OFFER ALTERNATIVE ROUTES OF TRAVEL AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNTY IS IN NEED OF. PROGRESS AND GROWTH IN COASTAL FLORIDA HAS BEEN INEVITABLE AND WE'VE PASSED THE POINT OF STAYING A SMALL TOWN. INCREASE TAX GROWTH IS PARAMOUNT TO FUND OUR SCHOOLS AND PUCK LICK SAFETY DEPARTMENTS SO THAT OUR COUNTY WORKARIES WAGES ARE NOT ONLY COMPETITIVE BUT ALIGN WITH THE COST OF LIVING IN THIS COUNTY. ALL OF THESE THINGS TOGETHER IS WHAT WILL SET THIS COUNTY ON A PATH TO A BRIGHT AND PROSPEROUS FUTURE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> YES, SIR. DISTRICT 7, THIS DISTRICT, I PURPOSELY SATED AND LISTENED, THIS WHOLE MORNING TO EVERYBODY AND WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT, IS ABOUT 80% OF OR MAY BE
I THINK THE REASON IS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE MASSIVE OVER DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE QUITE DIMINISHED.
I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS.
I CAME HERE 20 YEARS AGO FROM ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA.
THERE WAS ANOTHER GUY HERE FROM CALIFORNIA.
HE SPOKE EXACTLY THE TRUTH TO IT.
I HAVE SEEN THIS WHOLE THING PLAY OUT BEFORE.
THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT I WAS AT TALKED ABOUT 10 LANE 95 FROM ST. AUGUSTINE NORTH. SIX LANING I BELIEVE 210.
AND THEY HAD THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REPRESENTATIVE THERE. I DON'T WANT THAT.
I I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT THAT.
IF ALL OF THIS IS APPROVED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MASSIVE, MASSIVE INFLUX. I THINK THERE'S 9% OF THE HOMES NOW BUILT OUT, AND OBVIOUSLY 91% YET TO BE BUILT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MASSIVE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC AND POPULATION. WE HAVE DOUBLED THE GROWTH IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY POPULATION IN THE LAST YEAR I BELIEVE.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SLOW IT DOWN.
WE NEED TO GET CONTROL OF IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M FOR.
THE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE TIME ARE BASICALLY BEING OFFSET BY THE ROAD BUILDING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS 100% OFF SET, I'M NOT SURE.
AT -- FROM WHAT I COULD ASCERTAIN, IT'S BASICALLY A SHELL GAME. FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S JUST BASICALLY THE OFFSET. THERE ARE NO IMPACT FEES GENERALLY. I'M NOT FOR A 1% SALES TAX.
15.4 % INCREASE IN THE TAX BASE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT.
I THINK IF WE WENT LINE BY LINE AND AUDITED THE COUNTY, WE COULD
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FIND A LOT OF WASTE AND ABUSE AND CUT OUR BUDGET AND SHRINK THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT AND MAKE UP FOR THIS.THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU MR. JAMES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES, MA'AM, PLEASE.
>> BETH TATE, 841 ST. JOHNS. I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING TODAY. I DIDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM DECEMBER WHEN SILVER LEAF WAS PRESENTED.
I HAD TO WHEN I HEARD THE FOLKS FROM ELWOOD COME UP AND SPEAK.
I HAVE LIVED IN MAYBERRY. IT'S NOT THAT MUCH FUN.
PEOPLE IN ELWOOD ARE THE CONSTITUENTS ALSO AND CLEARLY MADE THEIR NEEDS KNOWN THEY ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THIS.
YES, WE'RE ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
IT'S EASY WHEN WE HAVE OUR NICE ROADS AND AREA AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO SAY WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE.
THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M FOR OR AGAINST IT.
I DO RECOGNIZE YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL CONSTITUENTS THAT WOULD BE EFFECTED. I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER BOTH
SIDES BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION. >> THANK YOU, MS. TATE.
>> WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT?
>> YES, PLEASE COME FORWARD. WE WERE GOING FROM ONE PODIUM TO THE NEXT. I FEEL LIKE IT'S ONLY FAIR.
>> HI EVERYBODY. I'M DEB TESTA, 449 OCEAN GROVE CIRCLE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. I HAVE HEARD A LOT.
YES, MA'AM. >> I HEARD A LOT FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR SILVER LEAF. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE ARE FROM THE BEACH AREA. I CAN TELL YOU HOW OUR ROADS ARE BEING IMPACTED AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE PLAN, NOT ONE ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ABOUT TRAFFIC WITH OUR TRAFFIC.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I CAN'T EVEN GET OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY A LOT OF TIMES. I BICYCLE AND I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO GET KNOCKED OVER BY DUMP TRUCKS.
SO, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE BEACH? BECAUSE WHEN I WENT, I USED TO LIVE IN THE VILANO AREA AND THERE ARE THREE IGUANA PARKING LOTS.
WILL OTHER DAY I PULLED OVER TO TEXT SOMEBODY.
THERE WASN'T A PARKING SPACE ON THE TUESDAY AFTERNOON IN THE GHANA PARKING LOT. PEOPLE LIVE GOING TO THE BEACH.
THOSE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TRYING TO GET TO THE BEACH AND IT WILL BE GREAT THAT I'M ALREADY THERE.
I WON'T BE ABLE TO GET OUT. YOU KNOW.
I DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE UNTIL I WAS I THINK 27 OR 28 YEARS OLD.
AND ONE OF MY FIRST CLASSES WAS OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT.
AND THE PROFESSOR SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CLASS, HERE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I'M GOING TO TEACH EVERY ONE OF YOU.
YOU PLAN THE WORK AND YOU WORK THE PLAN.
I SEE THERE IS A PLAN BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEING CHANGED.
WHEN YOU MAKE A ZONING PLAN, THERE'S A REASON FOR IT.
YOU DON'T KEEP ON ASKING FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.
THAT LAND WAS PUT ASIDE FOR A REASON.
OKAY. SO WE PLAN THE WORK BUT WE'RE NOT WORKING THE PLAN. THE ANSWER ISN'T FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE TO MOVE OUT BUT WORK HAND IN HAND FOR DEVELOPERS FOR A VIABLE PLAN. I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.
I'M NOT. BUT WE ALL SHOULD HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE. ALL OF US.
EVERYONE IN THE ROOM. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST.
WE'RE A COMMUNITY HERE. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY. >> THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> SORRY MY HEAD WAS TURNED AWAY.
>> IT WAS YOUR THREE MINUTES. YOU DO WITH IT WHAT YOU SAW FIT.
YES, MA'AM, WELCOME. >> B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST.
AUGUSTINE. I WAS PLANNING ON SPEAKING.
TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE ELWOOD COMMUNITY, MY QUESTION IS, BEFORE I GET INTO MY REAL SPEECH, IS WHY HASN'T THIS COUNTY TAKEN CARE OF THEIR ROADS BEFORE THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS COME IN? NO CLAPPING, NO CLAPPING.
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NO CLAPPING. THANK YOU B.J..I APPRECIATE IT. >> THAT IS MY QUESTION ABOUT THOSE ROADS. THERE'S OTHER ROADS IN THE COUNTY TOO. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THEM JUST LIKE WE'RE WORKING IN WEST AUGUSTINE WHICH IS IN THE COUNTY, NOT THE CITY. WE'RE HELPING THEM.
THAT IS AN AREA THAT NONE OF YOU LIVE IN.
LET ME THANK THE EXPERT E-X-P-E-R-T RESIDENTS FOR SHOWING UP AND SPEAKING FOR THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOR DENIAL IS, 16 A HAS NOW FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENT. 13 HAS NOW FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENT. STATE ROAD 16 FUNDING DELAYS.
INADEQUATE ACCESS TO PROPOSED SCHOOLS.
MAJOR IMPACT TO SURROUNDING AREA.
COMP PLAN AMENDMENT A 125 C. FOR DENIAL.
LET'S READ IT AGAIN. 16 A HAS NO FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENT. 13 HAS NO FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENT. STATE ROAD 16 FUNDING DELAYS.
INADEQUATE ACCESS TO PROPOSED SCHOOLS.
MAJOR IMPACT TO SURROUNDING AREA.
COMP PLAN AMENDMENT A 125 C. I WILL TURN THIS IN.
SINCE I HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT, I WANT EVERYONE TO PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS THE PROCESS WE USE AND IT'S A GREAT PROCESS. BUT MY CONCERN IS, 9:15 IN THE MORNING WE STARTED THIS. IT'S PAST 12 MIDNIGHT -- NO.
LET'S HOPE -- LET'S HOPE -- LET'S HOPE THAT NEVER HAPPENS.
SERIOUSLY. IT'S PAST 12 LUNCHTIME.
BUT YOU'VE GOT A REAL HARD DECISION TO MAKE AND I THINK YOU HEARD FROM COMPETENT PEOPLE NOT THE "EXPERTS" THAT LIKE TO CALL THEMSELVES EXPERTS. I THINK THE EXPERTS ARE THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY AND ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU MS. KLATY FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AGENDA ITEM 1 SILVER LEAF. SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE. OKAY.
MR. CHAIRMAN. WE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.
MR. SMITH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS?
>> YES MR. CHAIRMAN. WE WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
I FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME FACTS WE NEED TO PUT OUT THERE.
I VERY MUCH WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME TODAY FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS. THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS IS FOR. REGARDING COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS AND WE'RE CERTAINLY ALL FOLLOWING THE LAW IN THAT.
MOST OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD TODAY ARE ABOUT GENERAL GROWTH IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHICH IS, OF COURSE, RELEVANT TO DAILY LIFE AND IS NOT UNDER THE LAW CHAPTER 163, 3184 RELEVANT TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT ON A SPECIFIC PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO, I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS BUT MANY OF THEM WERE NOT MATERIAL TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WHICH IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. IF YOU CAN PUT OUR POWER POINT BACK UP ON THE BOARD. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS IS WELL, NO, I'M GOING TO HOLD THAT COMMENT TO MYSELF.
JUST TO GET A LITTLE INFORMATION OUT THERE BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS SUPPOSED, YOUR DECISION IS SUPPOSED TO BE BASED ON FACT BASED EVIDENCE. THAT'S WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES.
AND SO AGAIN LIKE I SAID EARLIER, OUR APPLICATION DOCUMENTS WITH ALL OF THE RELEVANT STUDIES, TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL, ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND THE LIKE ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF REPORTS ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. AND SO, WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU AN ANALYSIS IN WRITING OF HOW THIS AMENDMENT APPLICATION COMPLIES WITH EVERY APPLICABLE PROVISION OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STATE LAW. SO THAT'S IN YOUR RECORD.
I DO WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE MR. MILLER TALK ABOUT THINGS IN HIS AREA OF EXPERTISE AND HAVE MR. CRAM OND TALK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS IN HIS AREA OF EXPERTISE. I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR THE
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GENERAL PUBLIC THERE ARE SCHOOL SITES IN SILVER LEAF.THERE ARE THREE OF THEM RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY'RE ALL IN PURPLE. ONE, TWO AND THREE.
THOSE SITES ARE ALL OWNED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD NOW.
THEY WERE CONVEYED OVER SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THERE ARE PUBLIC SCHOOL SITES WITHIN SILVER LEAF ALREADY OWNED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. THERE IS A DISCUSSION ON GOING ABOUT PUTTING ANOTHER SITE IN PARCEL 40, WHICH WE WILL ADDRESS AT A LATER TIME WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
YOU SEE ON THIS MAP THERE IS AN ACCESS ARROW THAT GOES TO PARCEL 38. THAT WILL COME DOWN THROUGH PARCEL 38 AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT HIGH SCHOOL SITE FROM INTERNAL TO SILVER LEAF. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD BECAUSE THERE WAS A GENLEMEN WHO SAID ERRONEOUSLY THERE WAS NO SCHOOL SITES IN SILVER LEAF.
AND THAT ALSO GOES TO THE ISSUE OF SCHOOL OVER CROWDING BECAUSE AGAIN YOU'VE GOT SCHOOL SITES AND FUNDS PAID TO THE SCHOOL BOARD UNDER THE LAW FOR PROPORTIONATE SHARE.
SORRY. I ALSO WANT TO GO TO THE GENERAL NOTION OF MANY OF THE SILVER LEAF RIGHT NOW, WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT ABSORPION. DOUG WILL GO INTO THIS.
TO DATE, THERE ARE ALREADY 2000 UNITS SOLD IN SILVER LEAF AND THAT'S CONTINUING AT THE PACE OF 50 CLOSINGS A MONTH.
ALSO THE AVERAGE SALES PRICE OF HOMES IN SILVER LEAF IS OVER $400,000 WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT DISTRIBUTION TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S TAX BASE. SO YOU CAN TELL BY THE ABSORPTION, THERE'S A NEED FOR A COMMUNITY PLANNED OVER 25 YEARS AS A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT BUILDING ROADS UP FRONT, PROVIDING SCHOOL SITES, PARK SITES AND ITSELF PROVIDING FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO PUBLICLY-AVAILABLE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I WANT TO GO BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTIONED CITATIONS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS A LEGAL ANALYSIS AND I APPRECIATE WHEN PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LAWYERS MAKE LAWYER ANALYSIS, BUT AGAIN WE GO TO EVIDENCE AND THE FACT THAT OUR APPLICATION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF STATE LAW AND THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR AMENDMENT TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE OR THE APPLICATION OF THIS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
SO DOUG, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD.
>> DOUG MILLER, WE ARE THE PLANNERS AND ENGINEER FOR THE SILVER LEAF PROJECT. I WANT TO GO OVER SOME OF THE FACTS RELATED TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MISINFORMATION. FIRST, LET'S START FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT 60,000 ENTITLED PUDS UNDEVELOPED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
WELL THERE IS THAT MUCH ENTITLEMENT, WE ACTUALLY STUDIED WA. THE CAPACITY OF THE LAND AND TO ACTUALLY HOLD THAT A LOT. WHAT WE FOUND WAS, THERE WAS ONY 50%. MUCH OF THOSE AND I WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
IF YOU TAKE THE PLAYERS CLUB DRI.
THERE ARE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF ENTITLEMENTS IN THE PUD BUT IT'S BEEN BUILT OUT FOR MORE THAN A DECADE.
THOSE ARE IN THE 60,000. SO, IT'S A MISREPRESENTATION TO SUGGEST THAT YOU CAN GO BUILD 60,000 HOMES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE PUDS. THAT'S JUST NOT FACTUAL.
WE ALSO DID A STUDY WHICH WE PROVIDED TO THE STAFF OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR PLANNING AREA. 87% OF ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING PERMITS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. AND WE INVENTORIED ALL OF THE ENTITLED LAND AND ALL OF THE POTENTIAL ENTITLED LAND IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. AND DID A YIELD CAPACITY STUDY AND IT SHOWED THERE WAS ABOUT 30,000 POTENTIAL UNITS.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ALL DEVELOPED AT ONE TIME.
THIS IS A 25 YEAR PROJECT. SILVER LEAF IS 25 YEARS IN
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DURATION. WATER SUPPLY WAS BROUGHT UP.OF COURSE THAT'S AS A DEVELOPMENT REGIONAL IMPACT.
YOU HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THERE'S ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY TO SUPPORT THE BUILD OUT OF THE PROJECT. YOUR UTILITY HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON WATER SUPPLY PLANTING AND THEY HAVE VALIDATED THEY HAVE ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY TO SERVE ALL OF SILVER LEAF THROUGH BUILD OUT AS WELL AS WASTEWATER.
AND UNLIKE MANY OF THE SMALLER PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY, SILVER LEAF WILL HAVE 100% REUSE. I CAN REMEMBER WHEN COMMISSIONER DEAN ENCOURAGED THE FIRST REUSE COMMUNITY NOCATEE.
THAT'S THE BENEFITS OF THE DRI. THE STANDARD OF REVIEW IS EXTRAORDINARILY DETAILED, AND THE AMOUNT OF DEMONSTRATION THAT YOU HAVE MITIGATED. AND ALL THAT DATA AND ANALYSIS AND IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY YOUR STAFF AND APPROVED AS WELL AS IT'S NOW ALL BEEN TO THE STATE AND REVIEWED BY THEIR STAFF AND NO OBJECTION. IT'S THE BENEFIT OF LARGE SCALE PROJECT AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE LIST OF THE LARGE SCALE PROJECTS AND THE BENEFITS WE RECEIVED.
THE PLANTATION. DURB AN CROSSING, ABERDEEN.
NOCATEE. TWIN CREEKS, WORLD GOLF VILLAGE.
THOSE WERE ALL DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACT AND ALL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT AMOUNTED TO $650 MILLION WORTH OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT MITIGATED THEIR IMPACT JUST LIKE SILVER LEAF IS BRINGING $240 MILLION OF TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION FOR ITS IMPACTS.
BUT THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT DRI, IS PIPELINING.
AND MR. MCINERNY LIKES TO TALK ABOUT THE DEFICITS.
YOU EVALUATE NOT LIKE IN CURRENCY ALL THE ROAD CAPACITY WITHIN FOUR MILES, YOU EVALUATE ANY ROAD NO MATTER WHERE IT IS AND HOW FAR IT IS AWAY IMPACTED BY YOUR PROJECT BY MORE THAN 5%.
LET'S SAY IT'S 7%. YOU CAN'T ADD 7% OF A LANE.
YOU ADD THAT UP AND THAT'S YOUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE.
YOU DO A WHOLE IMPROVEMENT AND BY DEFINITION LEAVES DEFICIENCIES IN YOUR SYSTEM. THOSE ARE LEGACY AND I APPLAUD THE COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY'RE PROPOSING A SALES TAX TO TAKE CARE OF THE LEGACY DEFICIENCIES. I HEARD SOME OF THE ADDRESSES TODAY FROM THE SPEAKERS AND MANY OF THEM LIVED IN THOSE CATAMOUNTS AND EVERY ONE OF THEM LEFT A LEGACY DEFICIENCY SO THAT THEY COULD LIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY JUST LIKE SILVER LEAF.
BUT, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE GOT $650 MILLION WORTH OF NEW ROADS. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION THAT DRI.
DRIS ARE BIG PROJECTS AND DRAW A BIG CROWD.
BUT THEY ALSO BRING BIG BENEFITS.
LASTLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WATER QUALITY.
WE SAW A NICE VIDEO. INTERESTINGLY, THE DRIS ALSO HAVE WATER QUALITY MONITORING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE DRI.
IT'S SUBMITTED ANNUALLY. TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS MEETING THE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS.
AND IT ALSO OF COURSE REQUIRES PERMITTING AS ALL PROJECTS TO MEET BOTH FLOOD CONTROL, DEMONSTRATION HAS NO ADVERSE EFFECT OFF SITE AND HAS FLOOD CONTROL ON SITE.
AND ALSO MEETS STATE WATER QUALITY STANDARDS BY TREATING PRIOR TO DISCHARGE INTERESTINGLY IF YOU SEE THE RECENT DEP
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ANALYSIS FOR THE WATER QUALITY TO THE STATE, THE SINGLE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS FROM AGRICULTURAL RUN OFF.FROM A WATER QUALITY PERSPECTIVE, SILVER LEAF WILL IMPROVE WATER QUALITY OVER GRAZING PASTURE THAT WAS SHOWN IN THE VIDEO. SO, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF YOU HAVE DETAILED QUESTIONS ON THE TRANSPORTATION MODELLING.
I DID WANT TO SAY TALK ABOUT UPDATING TRAFFIC COUNTS.
UPDATED TRAFFIC COUNTIES WERE DONE AND PROVIDED AND ARE PART OF THE MODELLING AND THAT'S AGAIN PART OF THE EXTRA REVIEW YOU GIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT.
14775 OLD ST. AUGUSTINE ROAD. AS DOUG INDICATED, THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS DONE FOR THE PROJECT.
IT DID NOT STOP AT FOUR MILES BUT WENT OUT TO WHERE THE PROJECT WAS SIGNIFICANT. THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN YOUR TYPICAL PUD. YOUR STAFF REVIEWED THAT.
THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REVIEWED THAT.
THEY ALL ACCEPTED IT AND WE'RE PROVIDING MORE MITIGATION THAN THEY'VE CALCULATED AS OUR IMPACTS.
THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S BIGGEST QUESTION WAS, HOW SOON CAN YOU BUILD THAT CONNECTION DOWN TO STATE ROAD 13? WE HAVE A PROBLEM ON STATE ROAD 16 BETWEEN 13 AND 16 A. AND THAT WILL HELP US FIX AN EXISTING DEFICIENCY. THAT WAS THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THE ANALYSIS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROBLEMS WITH ANYTHING ELSE. AS FAR AS WHY WE USE 2020, 2021 TRAFFIC COUNTS AND STUFF, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST INFORMATION WE HAVE. YOUR COUNTY STAFF TAKES THAT, GROWS IT UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS, ADDS ON WHAT DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED TO PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AS A BASE FOR THESE PROJECTS. IT'S NOT JUST WHAT WAS THERE THEN. IT WAS WHAT WAS THERE THEN GROWN UP, PLUS THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT ADDED ON IT AND THEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR PROJECT. SO, IT'S MISLEADING TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS THEN. THIS IS WHAT IT IS NOW.
THAT'S ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BY YOUR STAFF, BY GROWING UP.
IF YOU HAVE TRAFFIC ISSUES, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. WE REALIZE IT'S BEEN A LONG HEARING AND APPRECIATE IT. I WANTED TO HEAR FROM OUR EXPERTS ON THE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SIDE.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU AGAIN APPROVE THIS COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION. >> ALL RIGHT.
LET'S START WITH QUESTIONS AND THE FIRST QUESTION IS FROM
COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> IT WAS ON TRAFFIC IF YOU DON'T MIND. SORRY.
WHEN DOT OF COURSE IN THEIR COMMENTS ASKED ABOUT THE 13 CONNECTOR, WHAT WAS THE ANSWER? OF WHEN IT WOULD BE BUILT?
>> THEY HAVE TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND AGREED WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT SECTION UNTIL THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IS BUILT.
SO THAT ROAD FOLLOWS THAT DEVELOPMENT AND WILL OCCUR AFTER 2030 OR THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY IS BUILT WHICHEVER
COMES FIRST >> COME COMMISSIONER WALDRON.
THAT'S MEMORIALIZED IN THE SILVER LEAF DRI ORDER THAT WILL BE A RESOLUTION APPROVED IN DECEMBER BY YOUR BOARD.
IT'S IN THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION OF THE DRI ORDER.
>> I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT THEN. IT'S NOT CONSTRUCTED BY 2030, WILL NOT HELP MITIGATE ANY ISSUES.
AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, IF ROADWAY IS NOT CONSTRUCTED BEFORE 2030, THEY WOULD NOT SERVE TO REMOVE OR REDUCE IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING ROADWAY SAYS AND INTERSECTIONS.
THEY'RE SAYING IF YOU BUILD THAT ROAD AFTER 2030, IT WILL NOT
HELP THE ISSUE ON STATE ROAD. >> FIRST IT WILL HELP STATE ROAD 13 AND HELP STATE ROAD 16 WHEREVER IT'S BUILT.
IT PROVIDES A DIFFERENT ACCESS. >> WHAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS TRYING TO SAY IS, IF YOU PUT UNITS THERE BEFORE YOU PUT THE ROADS THERE, BUILDING THE ROAD LATER DOESN'T HELP.
WILL AGGRAVATE IT. ANY TIME YOU BUILD THAT ROAD AND PROVIDE AFTER ADDITIONAL CONNECTION.
PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE ACCESS TO THE FOLKS IN HERITAGE GREEN AND GIVES THEM AN AFTERNOON TO GET OFF STATE ROAD 16.
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>> I GUESS DOT NEEDS TO BE MORE SPECIFIC IN THEIR LETTERS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY INTENDED. >> THAT'S WHAT CAME BACK INN E-MAIL THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE RECORD.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?
FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY TO COME OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I APPRECIATE THE PASSION AND FOR THE MOST PART FOLLOWED THE RULES OF DECORUM.
THAT TAKES B.J. KLATY'S SCOLDING NOT WITH STANDING.
I APPRECIATE THE PASSION AND YOU GETTING ENGAGED AND INVOLVED.
I LIKE TO SEE THAT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR COUNTY STAFF ABOUT 2209. IF SOMEONE COULD COME FORWARD TO ANSWER THAT AND IF COLLIN GROFF FROM UTILITIES IS HERE.
I KNOW WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WATER.
I KIND OF WANTED TO HEAR FROM MR. NGUYEN.
THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR
GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
YOU HAVE TOLD ME AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.
MANY SEVERAL TIMES THAT 2209 WAS IN THE COUNTY'S LONG-TERM PLAN.
WHAT WAS THE REASON BEHIND THAT? I HEARD IT SAID THAT 2209 IS BUILT TO ACCESS SILVER LEAF. WAS THAT IN THE LONG-TERM PLAN AND WHY IS IT IN THE LONG-TERM PLAN?
>> THE HISTORY OF 2209 WAS BASED ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THE COUNTY ADOPTED IN ORDER TO HELP RELIEVE I-95.
AND SO BACK IF THE MID 2000, WE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO BUILD THIS PARALLEL CORRIDOR TO I-95 TO HELP RELIEVE I-95.
AND THAT WAS BASICALLY RUNS FROM RACE TRACK ROAD DOWN TO 208.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE CONTINUE TO LOOK INTO THE ACCOMMODATION FOR THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR, THE ONLY TWO MAJOR NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR IS I-95 AND U.S. ONE. AND ALONG THE COAST IS A 1 A.
BUT WEST OF I-95. WE TECHNICALLY DO NOT HAVE A NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR. SO THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ST.
JOHNS COUNTY'S LONG-TERM GROWTH AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE AGREED ON WITH THE I DOT TO THE PARALLEL CORRIDOR.
>> THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THIS.
THIS WAS ON THE COUNTY'S LONG RANGE PLAN.
DO WE HAVE THE FUNDING IN SHORT TERM TO BUILD THIS STRETCH OF 2209 THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPMENT?
>> I'M SORRY. >> DID WE HAVE THE FUNDING FROM AD AD VALOR EMTHAT WAS APPROVED IN
2006? >> BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING, WE NEVER ALLOCATED TAX TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR 2209.
THE PART OF THAT IS THAT WE BASE ON DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING.
AND ALSO PART OF THAT IS WE PURSUE FEDERAL AND STATE DOLLARS
IN ORDER TO FUND FOR 2209. >> AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVE 13 THAT GOES DOWN THE RIVER. A 1 A.
1 AND 95 AND THOSE ROADS ARE OVER BURDENED.
THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS TO CUT I-95 AS A NORTH SOUTH
THOROUGHFARE. >> COUNTY ROAD 13 AND STATE ROAD 13 MAJOR PORTION IS BASICALLY CONSTRAINED.
BASED ON POLICY. >> THANK YOU MR. NGUYEN FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
IS COLLIN GROFF AVAILABLE? I HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS ABOUT WATER. SOMETHING PERSONALLY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MYSELF. DO WE HAVE THE WATER TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OTHERS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING?
>> YEAH, COLLIN GROFF, UTILITY DIRECTOR.
THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE ADDITIONAL AREA HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN OUR 20 AND 40 YEAR WATER SUPPLY PLAN.
THERE'S ADEQUATE WATER FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
WE CONTINUE TO PLAN AS WE SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE.
WE PLAN OUT 40 TO 60 YEARS. WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE WATER FOR
THIS DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU MR. GROFF.
I WANTED TO HEAR IT FROM YOU. WE HEAR ONLY FROM THE DEVELOPER.
WE HAVE TO VERIFY. YOU'RE THE MAN IN CHARGE.
THANK YOU, SIR. I HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT WHY WE HAVEN'T TAKEN CARE OF EVERYTHING BEFORE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. BACK ON MARCH FIRST, WE HAD THE
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SALES TAX REFERENDUM IN THE MEETING ROOM FOR DISCUSSION.JESSE DUNN MADE A THOROUGH AND INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION HOW WE GOT HERE IN THAT HE EXPLAINED HOW ST. JOHNS COUNTY TAXPAYERS AND HOMEOWNERS HAD DISCOUNTS ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
ONCE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THE BOARD DECIDED TO GIVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS THE ROLL BACK RATE.
THAT'S A DISCOUNT ON PROPERTY TAXES.
THE OTHER WAS IN 2007 WHEN THE STATE MANDATED A FULL MILL ROLL BACK RATE. HE ALSO TALKS ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. WE WEREN'T CHARGING THE MAXIMUM OF THE IMPACT FEES TO SPUR GROWTH.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEY RECORD THESE MEETINGS. YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH YOURSELF AND GET USEFUL INFORMATION SO WHEN YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS YOU CAN HAVE THE FACTS.
JESSE DUNN SPELLS OUT EXACTLY STEP BY STEP HOW WE GOT IN THE FINANCIAL POSITION WE ARE IN. AS A COMMISSIONER I FOUND THIS HELPFUL AND YOU MIGHT FIND IT HELPFUL.
WE HAD TWO GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOPS SINCE WE LAST HEARD SILVER LEAF. I HAVE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN TWO THINGS VERY CONSISTENTLY THEY WANT DEVELOPER-FUNDED INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY WANT IT UP FRONT.
THAT'S WHAT I SEE HERE. THE SECOND THING THEY WANT IS A PLAN FOR THE GROWTH. SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT OR EVEN BY THE APPLICANT IS THE COMMERCIAL ELEMENT OF THIS PROJECT WILL CONTAIN A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC WHEN YOU HAVE RESTAURANTS, SCHOOLS, OFFICE SPACE. YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC SPILLING OUT ON TO OUTSIDE ROADWAYS FOR THOSE REASONS AND FOR THE 25 YEARS THAT IT WILL BE BUILT OUT THAT WILL ALSO GIVE THE COUNTY TIME TO PLAN FOR THE GROWTH, I'M GOING TO VOTE YES ON SILVER LEAF AND I THOUGHT I SHOULD EXPLAIN WHY I'M VOTING YES GIVEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT.
>> LET ME. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE STATEMENT IF I MAY. LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS INTERESTING.
WHEN YOU'RE SERVING HERE, I SAT HERE AND LISTENED TO SEVERAL RATHER PASSIONATE PLEAS TO DENY THIS PROJECT FROM FRIENDS OF MINE AND AFTER TODAY THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE FRIENDS OF MINE.
WE'RE ALL PART OF THE LOCAL ST. JOHNS COUNTY FAMILY IN MY OPINION. BUT, FOR THE RECORD AND FOR TRANSPARENCY SAKE. IT'S MY OBLIGATION TO TELL EVERYONE WHO SPOKE WHAT MY POSITION IS AND WHY.
I HAVE BEEN WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
LET ME TELL YOU WHY. NUMBER ONE, THIS APPLICANT HAS PUT $143 MILLION OF HIS OWN MONEY TOWARDS ROADS AND HIGHWAYS AND DONATED 40 ACRES THAT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND TALKING WITH RYAN CANE, HE TELLS ME THERE ARE SEVERAL THOUSAND STUDENTS WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO SPORTS FACILITIES.
BE IT SOCCER, BASEBALL BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKS.
THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME AND ONE REASON I WANT TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS PROJECT TO HAVE THIS PARK OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND AS THE APPLICANT STATED, THERE ARE IN FACT THREE SCHOOL SITES IN SILVER LEAF THAT IN FACT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND FINALLY, AS WE GO FORWARD, IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THIS IS A 25 YEAR BUILD OUT, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVER NIGHT, IN FACT, THE COINCIDENTALLY WHEN THIS PROJECT IS DONE. I WILL BE EXACTLY 100 YEARS OLD WHETHER I'M HERE OR NOT. SORT OF A MILESTONE.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS I AM COMPELLED TO VOTE TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I ALSO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING. THANK YOU MR. MCINERNY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WANT THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK UP. I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
WE'LL TRY TO KEEP YOU FROM GETTING UP AND DOWN.
I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE QUESTIONS I WAS ASKED.
I RECEIVED A NUMBER OF E-MAILS. I HAVE ONE HERE AS AN EXAMPLE THAT ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO RAISE THE ISSUE THERE ARE NO CDD FEES WITH SILVER LEAF. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN NO CDD FEES? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF CDD FEES? IF YOU CAN ELABORATE WHY THAT'S
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SIGNIFICANT. LET ME GO BEYOND THAT.WHAT I RECEIVED IN E-MAILS IS THIS IDEA BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CDD FEES. WE AS A COUNTY ARE ON TOP FOR THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AS AN ATTORNEY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND AND MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING SOMETHING. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?
>> I CAN. WE PROCESS A NUMBER OF CDDS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I WILL GIVE YOU AN OVER VIEW.
IF WE NEED TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF IT.
TYPICALLY DEVELOPERS AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CDD COMMUNITIES INCLUDING DRIS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
THOSE DEVELOPERS BASICALLY LEVY ASSESSMENTS AGAINST THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THEIR FOUR CORNERS AND THOSE RESIDENTS LOT OWNERS, HOMEOWNERS PAY BACK THE CDD FEES OVER TIME AS ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAXES. AND THE DEVELOPERS DO THOSE THROUGH BOND ISSUES THAT ARE AND THE FUNDS FROM THOSE BONDS USED TO BUILD THEIR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ROADS PARKS AMENITY CENTERS, INSTALL UTILITY LINES, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR A LARGER PROJECT. IN THE CASE OF SILVER LAKE, THERE'S NO CDD, INSTEAD OF ISSUING BONDS AND ASSESSING THE SILVER LEAF PROPERTY OWNERS, THIS DEVELOPER PAYS CASH.
SO INSTEAD OF BURDENING THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE PROJECT, HE PAYS CASH TO BUILD 2209 SILVER LAKE DRIVE, SILVER LEAF PARK WAY TO BUILD THE AMENITIES WITH HIS OWN MONEY.
THERE'S NO CDD ASSESSMENT CHARGED TO HOMEOWNERS OVER 20 OR 30 YEARS IN SILVER LEAF LIKE THERE ARE IN SOME ARE COMMUNITIES WITHIN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
>> OKAY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. THE DIFFERENCE IS, THERE ARE NO BONDS ARE BEING LEVIED IN THE ASSESSMENTS PASS ON TO THE
HOMEOWNERS, IS THAT CORRECT? >> RIGHT, CDD IS BASICALLY A CREATION OF FLORIDA STATUTE THAT ALLOWS DEVELOPERS PROPERTY OWNERS TO ASSESS THEIR LANDS TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THOSE ASSESSMENTS ARE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BUT WHEN YOU OR I BUY A LOT OR A HOME IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A CDD ASSESSMENT, WE PAY ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAXES TO REIMBURSE THE BOND. TO PAY BACK THE BOND OBLIGATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? SO, ALSO IF YOU COULD ELABORATE AS WELL. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE USING THESE DIFFERENT TERMS. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DRI AND PUD. CAN YOU ELABORATE WHAT THE TERMS MEAN AND THE DIFFERENCES? WE HEARD RESIDENTS BRING THAT UP TODAY. WE HEARD DIFFERENT PEOPLE SPEAK TODAY. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
DRI AND PUD? >> DRI IS A CREATION OF CHAPTER 380 FLORIDA STATUTES AND SAYS IF YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT LARGE ENOUGH TO CREATE A REGIONAL IMPACT, YOU HAVE TO UNDER GO A MUCH MORE THOROUGH ANALYSIS. YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IN ONE HAND AND HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IN THE OTHER HAND.
YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE ROAD SAYS TO MITIGATE FOR YOUR TRAFFIC IMPACTS. PROVIDE SCHOOL SITES AND IMPACT FEES OR PROPORTIONATE SHARE WHICH UNDER TODAY'S LAW FOR SCHOOLS. YOU HAVE TO INSTALL YOU'RE OWN UTILITIES AT YOUR OWN COST. THERE'S A WHOLE SET ASIDE WETLAND AREAS AND UP LAND AREAS AND SO THERE IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, A DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND A MAP SO THIS DEVELOPMENT ORDER IS DETAILED. AGAIN FOR SILVER LEAF, IT IS 50 PLUS PAGES AND IT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE MITIGATION THAT HAS TO BE DONE FOR ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO OFFSET THE IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT. IT ALSO INCLUDES A PHASING TABLE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW MANY UNITS AND SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL ARE IN EACH PHASE.
AND IT GIVES YOU PHASING DATES AND BUILD OUTS.
SO, SILVER LEAF HAS A PHASE 4 THAT'S FROM 2041-2047.
THE BUILD OUT DATE IS 2052. SO THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO BE BUILT OUT OVER NIGHT. AGAIN, THERE ARE TABLES IN HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHICH PHASE ALL OF THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE IN THROUGHOUT THE 25-YEARS OF THE PROJECT.
THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT'S RECORDED AGAINST TITLE TO THE PROPERTY. BINDING ON THE DEVELOPMENT.
IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T FULFILL THE OBLIGATIONS, THE COUNTY CAN
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STOP WORK AND SAY NO MORE SALES UNTIL YOU SATISFY.THAT'S WHAT A DRI IS. A PUD OR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS A ZONING CATEGORY.
IT'S ANOTHER DOCUMENT AND AGAIN IT'S 50 SOMETHING PAGES.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A MAP LIKE THIS MAP, THAT'S THE DRI MAP ON THE BOARD BY THE WAY AND THE PUD MAN IS SIMILAR.
IT SAYS THESE ARE THE USES ALLOWED IN THESE COLORED CODED AREAS AT WHAT DENSITIES. SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHTS.
ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING IS IN THE PUD WHICH IS AN ORDNANCE RECORDS AGAINST TITLE TO THE PROPERTY.
SO ALL OF THESE COMBINE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A COHESIVE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BUT ALSO DEVELOPMENT OBLIGATIONS FULFILLED TO OFF SET THE IMPACTS
OF THE PROJECT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
COULD MR. MILLER COME BACK UP, PLEASE.
AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON SIR, YOU MADE A COMMENT. YOU MENTIONED ONLY 50%.
YOU SAID THERE WAS 60,000 ENTITLEMENTS FOR HOMES IN ST.
JOHNS COUNTY. THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER AND COMES UP QUITE A BIT IN CONVERSATION. YOU MENTION A COUPLE THINGS HELPFUL IN INTERPRETING, THE PLAYERS AS AN EXAMPLE.
IN THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS A LARGE NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS. I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT 50%.
IS THAT CORRECT? >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 50%.
WE SAID ABOUT 50% OVERALL. BUT THE PLAYERS IS AN EXAMPLE.
IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT THEIR PUD, AND SAY HOW MANY UNITS ARE THEY ENTITLED TO BUILD, AND HOW MANY ARE BUILT.
THERE'S NO LAND. IT'S ALREADY BUILT OUT.
WE WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THAT.
THEY WERE PARCELS OF LAND THAT HAD A PUD FOR 2000 UNITS.
BUT, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE LAND AND THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DENSITIES, YOU COULD ONLY PHYSICALLY ACCOMMODATE A THOUSAND. SO, YES, WE HAVE 60,000 UNITS ENTITLED IN PUDS, BUT THEY CAN'T, YOU CAN'T BUILD 60,000 UNITS AND THAT WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE OF OUR STUDY.
SO IT'S A MISREPRESENTATION TO INFER THERE'S 60,000 HOMES THAT CAN BE BUILT IN EXISTING APPROVED PUDS.
THAT'S JUST NOT FACTUAL. >> IS YOUR MAIN POINT, THE FACT THERE'S AN ENTITLEMENT DOES NOT TRANSFER INTO A HOME BEING BUILT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> YEAH. THEY'RE SITTING OUT THERE BECAUSE THE PROJECTS COMPLETED. SINCE PUD IS A ZONING CATEGORY, THERE'S NOT AN EXPIRATION DATE. SO I GUESS IN THEORY, IN 100 YEARS, SOMEBODY COULD COME BACK AND BUY UP ALL THE UNITS AND MAYBE REDEVELOPMENT UNDER THAT PUD.
HIGHLY UNLIKELY YOU CAN AGGREGATE THAT LAND AFTER IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED. BUT, THAT WAS THE POINT.
THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN APPROVED AND WHAT'S PHYSICALLY
I APPRECIATE THAT. PAUL, DO YOU HAVE
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I ALSO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING TODAY. THIS TAKES A LOT OF TIME OUT OF EVERYBODY'S DAY. WANT TO DEFEND OURSELVES JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE HEARD THE TERM RUBBER STAMP AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT EVEN ON MY SHORT TIME ON THE BOARD, WE HAVE DENIED NUMEROUS PROJECTS.
I FEEL THIS DEVELOPMENT IS DIFFERENT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPER WORKING HAND IN HAND. I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THAT.
FROM THE RESIDENTS OF ELWOOD AND ARMSTRONG AND THE NEIGHBORING LANDOWNERS, THIS DEVELOPER HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS. THEY SET ASIDE THE CONSERVATION AND PROVIDED DESPERATELY NEEDED RECREATION AREAS FOR THIS REGION. 2209.
I LIVE THERE. I HAVE WATCHED IT GO UP.
I HAVE WATCHED IT SINCE IT WENT UP FROM 2020.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR IT. I'M GRATEFUL I DON'T HAVE TO PUT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY ON THAT STRETCH OF THE I-95.
THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS STRETCHES OF I-95 IN THE COUNTRY. IN TALKING WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEAR THIS DEVELOPMENT WANT IT.
THEY ARE EXCITED FOR RETAIL. THEY ARE EXCITED FOR THE
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SURFACES AND THE RESTAURANTS. THEY WANT IT.NOTABLY, SINCE MY FIRST VOTE ON THIS PROJECT SINCE DECEMBER, I HAVE HAD ONE MEETING REQUEST FROM PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT. THAT WAS JUST LAST WEEK.
SO WHILE I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY TURNING OUT, I DO THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
AND FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BE VOTING YES.
THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT MAY GET YOU TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS EXPANSION.
IT'S NOT THE PROJECT. THE DRI EXISTS.
AT THIS TIME, THE DRI IS REQUIRED TO GIVE THE 40 ACRES TO THE COUNTY AND HAVE GIVEN THREE SCHOOL SITES.
WE'RE EXPANDING NUMBERS OF UNITS TO ME WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF PUBLIC BENEFIT OTHER THAN THE TWO ROADS THEY HAVE TO BUILD BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING HOUSES. THAT'S MY THING.
YOU'RE EXPANDING A DRI THAT USUALLY HAS GREAT PUBLIC BENEFIT. THEY HAVE BUILT ROADS UP FRONT AND WILL GET CREDIT? THEY WILL GET IMPACT FEE BACK ON
THE ROADS. >> CORRECT, BY LAW.
>> THEY WILL GET IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR THE SCHOOLS.
BY LAW. THEY'RE SELLING IT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD IS GIVING THEM CREDITS IN RETURN.
>> PROPORTIONATE SHARE. CORRECT.
BY LAW. >> THERE'S GOING TO BE CREDITS GIVEN ON THE WATER SITES. THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS YOU'RE ADDING TO A DRI. WITH REALLY NO CHANGES TO WHAT THE DRI IS GIVING AS A PUBLIC OF THE ABOUT.
>> WELL ACTUALLY -- >> THERE'S SLIGHT CHANGES BUT NOT TO THAT EXTENT. IF THIS DRI WAS COMING IN WITH THIS NUMBER OF UNITS TO BEGIN WITH, SEPARATE FROM EVERYTHING BACK IN THE DRI DAYS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE SCHOOL SITES, EXTRA SCHOOL SITES, PARK SPACE AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON ITS OWN. JUST LIKE NOCATEE DID.
IF I'M WRONG, TELL ME I'M WRONG OR MAYBE I'M MISGUIDED ON THIS.
>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. JUST A COUPLE NOTES.
ON THIS PARCEL 40 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 16 A.
WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT ADDITIONAL
SITES. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THAT'S
NOT BEFORE US. >> AGAIN, WE ARE AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT STAGE.
SO, HOW YOU HANDLE SCHOOL SITE DEDICATIONS, PARK SITE DEDICATIONS OR CONCURRENCY FOR PROPORTIONAL FAIR SHARE AGREEMENTS. I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I WAS IN MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD STAFF AND MENTIONED THEY WOULD LIKE ANOTHER SITE IN THIS AREA. WE HAVE TOLD THEM YES.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE. WE WILL WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.
BUT THERE WILL BE AT LEAST ONE MORE SCHOOL SITE IN SILVER LEAF.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN WE VOTE IN DECEMBER, I VOTED AGAINST ONE SIDE. I WAS GOING TO VOTE AGAINST BOTH SIDES. THAT'S WHERE WE STAND.
>> I APPRECIATE CONSISTENCY. I DON'T MEAN TO BE ARGUMENTIVE
WITH YOU. >> I'M GIVING YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THE PROJECT. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PUBLIC BENEFIT TO ME BY REALLY CREATING ANOTHER DRI.
IT'S A HUGE 5200 OR HOWEVER MANY THE TOTAL IS.
IT'S A BIG NUMBER. I HAVE READ.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE E-MAILS. IF YOU COULD WRITE AN ORIGINAL E-MAIL, IT WOULD BE GREAT. INSTEAD OF CUTTING AND PASTING.
EVEN THE ONES THAT WERE REFERRED TO HUDSON COMPANY.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO READ SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I APPRECIATE THE E-MAILS. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.
>> I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT AS FAR AS THE COMP AMENDMENT. WE'RE GOING THROUGH A COMP AMENDMENT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL SCHOOL BOARD SITE.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH, WHAT WOULD BE THE TRIGGER FOR THAT?
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT. >> AGAIN WE HAVE THREE DOCUMENTS THAT ENCOMPASS FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE THIS ADDITIONAL LAND. THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER WHICH TALKS ABOUT SCHOOL MITIGATION AND PAYING A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN PROPORTIONATE SHARE WHICH IS THE LAW.
THE LAW REQUIRES THE PAYMENT FOR PROPORTIONATE SHARE FOR SCHOOLS AND ROADS. SO, THAT NOTION OF SCHOOLS AND PARKS AND EVERYTHING IS IN THE DRI.
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IT'S ALSO ADDRESSED IN THE PUD TO SOME EXTENT.IT'S NOT ADDRESSED BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS A LAND USE MAP FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE IN THE COLORS ON THE MAP AND ALSO THE TEXT POLICIES. THE 12 THAT WE WENT OVER.
THAT'S WHAT IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. AFTER THIS, WE HAVE IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENTS. THERE'S ONE EXISTING FOR THE ROADS. THERE'S ONE THAT'S BEEN MODIFIED FOR SCHOOLS AND ANOTHER FOR PARKS.
THOSE ARE THE PHASES WHERE WE'LL SAY LIKE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD IF THEY NEED ANOTHER SITE, WE'LL MODIFY OR HAVE ANOTHER PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
IF COUNTY DECIDES YOU WANT ANOTHER PUBLIC PARK SITE, WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT AT THE CONCURRENCY AND IMPACT FEE CREDIT. THIS IS THE 10,000 FOOT PLANNING STAGE FOR THE DRI COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND PUD.
THEN WE GET DOWN TO CONSTRUCTION PLANS, IMPACT FEE, CONCURRENCY
AND ALL OF THAT. >> JUST TO ELABERATE.
BASED ON THE AGREEMENTS WE CAN SAY WE WANT ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE, WE CAN DEVELOP MORE PARKS THERE.
SAME WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. WE'RE DOING A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL DECISION ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE WERE TALKING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT PARCEL 40.
AGAIN USING PARCEL 40 AS THE EXAMPLE, THE TEXT POLICIES THAT PROPERTY CANNOT BE DEVELOPED UNTIL THE EARLIER OF JANUARY 2030 OR THE OPENING OF THE OUTER BELTWAY.
FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY AND SO WE TOLD THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT.
THERE'S NO NEED TO RUSH IN TO IDENTIFY A SCHOOL SITE ON PARCEL 40 BECAUSE WE TOLD THE RESIDENTS NUMBER WILL BE DEVELOPED FOR AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS. MR. HUDSON LIVES THERE.
HE MAY NOT WANT TO DEVELOP FOR 20 YEARS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH LATER ON.
THERE'S NOTHING TO PRECLUDE THE COUNTY FROM SAYING WE NEED ADDITIONAL PARK LAND. CAN WE WORK OUT SOMETHING WE WORK OUT ANOTHER PUBLIC PARK SOMEWHERE.
YOU HAVE TROUT CREEK PARK. YOU HAVE OTHER PARKS IN THE AREA AND THIS 40-ACRE PARK SITE THAT'S BEEN DEEDED.
SO, THERE'S NOTHING TO PRECLUDE THAT IN THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
JUST TO CLARIFY, Y'ALL ARE IN DECISIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE ANOTHER SCHOOL SITE?
>> I WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPED FOR AT LEAST EIGHT YEAR. THERE'S NO RUSH TO DEVELOP A SCHOOL SITE FOR THIS HEARING. THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOT ANOTHER PURPLE BLOG ON THE MAP. IT COULD BE A YEAR FROM NOW OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW OF THE SCHOOL BOARD SAYS WE NEED A K-8 OR ANOTHER SCHOOL SITE AND WE FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT WILL GO.
WHEREVER THE PARTIES AGREE TO. OKAY.
IS THERE A MOTION. >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION. LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT
>> APPROVING COMP AMENDMENT 2021-D SILVER LEAF DRI.
SUBJECT TO FOUR FINDING THE FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
AND AGAIN I'M GOING TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT AND PARTICIPATING TODAY. IT'S A LONG ITEM BUT EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WE HAVE
[2. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2022-01, Alternate Bald Eagle Management Plan for the Norwood PUD and Grand Oaks PUD approving an Alternate Bald Eagle Management Plan for the protection of bald eagle nest SJ921 located on the proposed Norwood PUD property.]
>> OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE THE MAY 17 THE MEETING
LET'S START WITH JEREMIAH. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO RECORD OF MEETINGS. I HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS IN
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>> SAME FOR ME. >> I HAD A MEETING ON MAY SIX WITH TOM INGRAM AND DISCUSSED EAGLES NEST AND RECEIVED
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS AND GOOD AFTERNOON.
TOM INGRAM, 233 EAST BAY STREET IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.
TODAY WE WILL TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT GROUP OF RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHO OF WHOM HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND OTHERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
THAT'S THE BALD EAGLE. WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG, THEY TEND TO MIGRATE. THEY WILL GO FAR NORTH BUT WHEN THEY GET A LITTLE OLDER. THEY TEND TO SETTLE DOWN.
THEY DON'T MIND BEING AROUND OTHER EAGLES.
IN NESTING, THEY DO BECOME TERRITORIAL.
THEY DO FIGHT ABOUT HAVING ADEQUATE SPACE.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE NESTS AND WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED IN ST.
JOHNS COUNTY. THEY CAN LIVE OVER 30 YEARS IN THE WILD. THE LOSTEST DOCUMENTED PERIOD OF TIME. SOME HAVE SECOND HOMES AND MAY HAVE MORE THAN 1 NEST. THIS MAP SHOWS THE EAGLE NEST LOCATION. THEY ARE OUTLINED IN YELLOW IS THE NORWOOD SITE. IT'S ABOUT 60.41 ACRES AND THEN OUTLINED IN BLUE IS THE GRAND OAKS SITE.
523 ACRES. THERE'S ALSO LAND OWNED BY THIRD PARTIES THAT WE GET INTO. THIS NEST WAS DISCOVERED IN LATE 2021. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR A PROPOSAL FOR A PROJECT KNOWN AT NORWOOD, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY FOR RENT. THAT APPLICATION IS ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THE DISCOVERY OF THE EAGLE AND THAT REALLY CHANGES A LOT WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPABILITY OF THE SITE.
HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING USES.
YOU CAN SEE GROUND OAKS TO THE SOUTH AND TURN BALL WOODS TO THE NORTHWEST. ON THIS SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, AND OWNERS, TURNBALL TO THE NORTHWEST.
NORWOOD WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SAME OWNERS.
YOU HAVE THE LOWEST PROPERTY WHICH IS TO THE SOUTHEAST AND THEN THE ROBERTS PROPERTY A LITTLE FURTHER.
THE AREA THAT IS SHOWN IN THE CIRCLE IS THE 1500 FOOT RADIUS WHAT IS LOOKED AT UNDER THE REGULAR PROVISIONS OF THE ST.
JOHNS COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WHEN YOU DO AN AREA CALCULATION, THAT'S 162 ACRES.
70 ACRES ARE OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BALD EAGLE.
THE BALD EAGLE IS ONE OF AMERICA'S GREATEST SUCCESS STORY. THE EAGLES DID NOT HAVE THE BEST REPUTATION IN THE EARLY HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.
THEY WERE OFTEN VIEWED AS A NUISANCE.
THERE WAS A BOUNTY PAID BY THE STATE OF ALASKA TO KILL EAGLES BECAUSE THEY WERE VIEWED AS A THREAT TO SALMON.
THEY ARE KNOWN TO GO AFTER POULTRY AND I SAW AN ARTICLE PEOPLE COULDN'T RULE OUT THREAT TO INFANTS WHICH IS BAFFLING.
WITH WORLD WAR II, THERE WAS A LOT OF ADVANCES IN TECHNOLOGY AND ONE OF BIG ISSUES IN OUR COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD WAS BUGS AS A PEST TO CROPS AND AS A VECTOR FOR DISEASE.
ONE OF THE FIRST SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES WAS DEVELOPED IN KNOWN AS DDT. IT WAS AMAZING IN ITS BEING EFFECTIVE AS A TOOL BUT TERRIBLE FOR BIRDS.
IT CAUSED THE EGG SHELLS OF THE BIRDS LIKE THE BALD EAGLE TO FAIL. THE POPULATION OF THE BALD EAGLE WITHERED AWAY IN THE CONTINENTAL U.S.
THE POPULATION IN ALASKA WAS MORE STABLE.
IT WAS REALLY SOMETHING IN 1963, THE COUNT WAS 487 PAIRS ACROSS THE CONTINENTAL U.S. RACHEL CARLSSON AND HER BOOK TALKED ABOUT THE DDT AND THE RISK POSED TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND HOW WE WERE RUINING IT. AND THANKFULLY, YOU KNOW OUR COUNTRY LISTENED IN THE EARLY 1970S DDT WAS BANNED, I BELIEVE
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IT WAS 1972. WITH THE BAN OF DDT AND THE CHANGING ATTITUDES TOWARD BALD EAGLES AND THE LAWS PROTECTING BALD EAGLES FROM BEING KILLED DIRECTLY STARTING IN 1940, THE POPULATION HAS REBOUNDED FROM THE LOW OF 487 PAIRS IN THE CONTINENTAL U.S. TO A HIGH OF 9789 PAIRS WHEN LAST COUNTED IN 2006. IN 2007, THE BALD EAGLE WAS DE-LISTED BY THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DE-LISTED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN 2008.THERE'S THOUGHT TO BE 1500 NESTING PAIRS IN STATE OF FLORIDA ALONE. THREE TIMES WHAT IT WAS IN 1963.
THIS IS A COUNTY MAP SHOWING THE DOCUMENTED BALD EAGLE NEST LOCATIONS RECENTLY OBSERVED. THESE ARE I'M SURE NOT ALL ACTIVE BUT LOCATIONS WHERE EAGLES HAVE OCCURRED.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY OCCUR IN AREAS THAT ARE RELATIVELY UNDEVELOPED AS WELL AS AREAS THAT ARE VERY DEVELOPED.
A NUMBER OF NESTS EXIST IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH, IN THE CITY OF ST.
AUGUSTINE AND ALONG THE RIVER. SO AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, BALD EAGLES PRIMARILY LOOK TO FEED ON FISH.
THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY DIET. THAT HABITAT HASN'T CHANGED AND THEY IS A STILL INTACT RIVER SOURCE WHERE THEIR FOOD SOURCE IS. THIS IS HISTORICAL DATA SHOWING THE AREAS WHERE NESTS HAVE BEEN INDICATED.
NOT TO SAY ALL OF THESE ARE ACTIVE.
BUT AGAIN, THEY CONGREGATE NEAR WATER, NEAR ESTUARIES AND LAKES.
SO IN AN EFFORT TO HELP PROTECT THE BALD EAGLE, THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN 2001 ENACTED A BALD EAGLE PROTECTION ORDINANCE.
THEY USE A DRAFT ORDINANCE BY THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE BEFORE THEY HAD DATA ABOUT WHAT RISK DOES CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND OTHER HUMAN ACTIVITY HAVE ON NESTING EAGLES. THAT DRAFT WAS CONSERVATIVE.
IT LOOKED OUT TO A 1500 FOOT RADIUS TO LOOK AT MONITORING AS WELL AS VERY LIMITED ACTIVITY WITHIN 750 FEET DURING THE NESTING SEASON. SUBSEQUENT TO RECEIVING DATA AND REPORTS FROM THE VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES THAT OCCURRED, THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE IN CONSULTATION WITH STATE OF FLORIDA ISSUED THEIR FINAL BALD EAGLE MONITORING GUIDELINES WHICH REMAIN IN EFFECT SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2007. AND THEN THE OPENING PARAGRAPH THEY SAY, U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE FLORIDA ECOLOGICAL SERVICES FIELD OFFICES IN JACKSONVILLE AND VERO BEACHED RECEIVED MONITORING REPORTS FOR FIVE YEARS AS PRESCRIBED BY TO DO BALD EAGLE GUIDELINES IN THE DRAFT 2000 AND 2005 YEARS.
THE CUMULATIVE RESULT OF THE MONITORING REPORTS IS THE SERVICE DID NOT OBSERVE FROM THE DATA ANY INDICATORS OF DISTURBANCE ABNORMAL OR ATYPICAL BEHAVIOR OR NEST ABANDONMENT THAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED THE APPLICANT OR THE SERVICE TO HALT CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES DURING THE NESTING SEASON.
CONSEQUENTLY THE SERVICE IN THE FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION JOINTLY CONCLUDED THAT MONITORING OF CONSTRUCTION AND NESTING ACTIVITIES OCCURRING FROM 750 FEET TO 1500 FEET WAS NO LONGER WARRANTED FOR PROJECTS INVOLVING CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE DISTANCES FROM AN ACTIVE NEST DURING NESTING SEASON. THEY GO ON TO SAY WHAT THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO REGULATE IS TWO ZONES, FIRST WITHIN 330 FEET AND SECOND WITHIN, BETWEEN THE 330 AND 660 FEET.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE SITE. HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED.
WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS AN ALTERNATE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH IS ALLOWED UNDER YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WHEN THE 2001 REGULATIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE, IT AUTHORIZED THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO REVIEW AND APPROVE ALTERNATE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLANS AND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, WILL THESE PLANS PROVIDE THE SAME OR BETTER LEVEL OF PROTECTION FOR THE BALD EAGLE? THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AND THE STATE CONCLUDED THAT BIRDS ARE NOT AFFECTED BY CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY MORE THAN 660 FEET AWAY.
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THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. THAT'S SIMPLY WHERE AT SOME POINT, THE EAGLES JUST DON'T CARE.THEY'RE FLYING AND THEY'RE PROBABLY FLYING TO GO FORAGE FROM THERE. SO THIS IS A, THIS ON THE SCREEN HERE SHOWS THE 330 AND 660 FOOT RADIUS.
THE AREA THAT'S MORE IN RED AND PURPLE IS ON THE NORWOOD SITE.
THE AREA THAT'S IN GREEN IS ACTUALLY OFF SITE.
THAT'S THE LOUIS PROPERTY. IT'S NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION BUT JUST THERE FOR ILLUSTRATION. SO THERE'S INCLUDED WITHIN IT, 330 AND 660 FOOT RADIUS IS THE TURN BALL CREEK AREA.
THE ASSOCIATED TREES AND WETLANDS.
SO A LARGE PART OF THAT IS PROPOSED FOR NO DEVELOPMENT.
WITHIN THE 330 FOOT RADIUS THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED, THE MANAGEMENT PLAN DOES NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE THERE UNLESS YOU THERE FOR VERY LIMITED PURPOSE LIKE YOU'RE AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST AND NEEDED TO BE THERE FOR SOMETHING.
YOU CAN'T FLASH FLASHLIGHTS IN THERE.
YOU CAN'T WALK UP AND TAKE PICTURES OF THE NESTING EAGLES.
IT'S VERY LIMITED AS TO WHAT CAN OCCUR IN THE AREA UNDER OUR PLAN. ON THE FAR LEFT EDGE OF THE SCREEN, THERE IS JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE AN ACCESS ROAD TO LEAD TO THE REMAINDER OF THE NORWOOD SITE ON THE NORTH. THE AREA BETWEEN 330 AND 660 CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WOULD BE ALLOWED OUTSIDE OF THE NESTING SEASON AND WOULD BE ALLOWED DURING NESTING SEASON WITH A LOT OF LIMITS. AIMING THINGS THAT AVOID DISTURBING EAGLES. NUMATTIC GUNS AND LOUD BANGING AND THERE WOULD BE MONITORING BY A TRAINED ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST TO BE STATIONED OUTSIDE OF THE 660 FOOT AREA AND BE OBSERVING AND MAKING SURE THE EAGLES ARE NOT DISTURBED.
IF THEY ARE, THEY HAVE TO HALT CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO REPORT IT TO THE COUNTY. AND THEY ARE EMPOWERED TO DO THAT. THIS IS ANOTHER DEPICTION OF THE 330 AND 660 FOOT RADIUS THERE. PART OF THE AREA WITHIN THIS BULLS EYE HERE HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY USED AS A PASTURE FOR COWS AND CREATING THE CLEARING.
FROM WHAT I LEARNED ABOUT BALD EAGLES, THEY DO LIKE WHAT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS CALLED PROSPECT AND REFUGE.
THEY LIKE TO LOOK OUT ON OPEN SPACES AND THE PASTURE HELPED CREATE THAT OPEN SPACE. HERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT FOR WHICH THE COUNTY HAD RECENTLY REVIEWED A PROPOSED EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THIS IS THE HIGH DRY EAST PARCEL, I THINK MOST PEOPLE REFER TO AS NOCATEE.
THEIR PLAN IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
PAT PEARCE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE SOLUTIONS IS HERE.
HE DRAFTED THE SUBSTANCE OF THE PLAN BASED ON THE U.S. WILD LIFEPLAN AND CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THERE WAS ALSO ONE DOWN FOR NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY.
I FORGET THE NAME. IT WILL COME TO ME.
THIS HAS BEEN A COMMON PRACTICE WHEN THESE THINGS HAVE COME UP.
SO IN SUMMARY, THE PROTECTION ZONES WITHIN 330 FEET, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT, NO ROADS. NO ACCESS.
NO SHINING OF LIGHTS. AND THEN WITHIN THE 331-660, YOU HAVE MONITORING DURING CONSTRUCTION, AND DURING NESTING CONSTRUCTION IS LIMITED TO OUTSIDE WORK NOT REQUIRING IMPACT TOOLS OR COMPRESSIVE DRIVEN AIR TOOLS.
MONITORING IS OCCURRING DURING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.
BEFORE NESTING, THEY WILL GO OUT AND CHECK PERIODICALLY AT LEAST TWO DAYS A WEEK TO SEE IN NESTING HAS STARTED AND DURING NESTING, THREE DAYS A WEEK FOUR DAYS A WEEK AND POST HATCHLING UNTIL FLYING OCCURS AND ONE DAY A WEEK OCCURRING ONE HALF HOUR BEFORE SUNRISE. THERE'S WEEKLY REPORTING DURING CONSTRUCTION. DURING NESTING SEASON.
AND THEN HERE THIS PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE APPROVED IN OTHER PROJECTS LIKE GRAND CREEK WAS THE OTHER ONE AND THE HIGH DRY SITE TO ALLOW USE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY WHILE
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THE 330 RADIUS IS OFF LIMITS AND NO PRODUCTIVE USE CAN OCCUR IN THE AREA. IN ADDITION TO THAT, STAFF ASKED ME LOOK AT THE NON-ZONING VARIANCE STANDARDS AND I DO WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM BRIEFLY. FIRST OF THOSE CRITERIA ARE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IN CARRYING OUT STRICT LETTER OF THE REGULATION. THE STRICT LETTER OF THE REGULATION PROHIBITS COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING BUILDINGS, BIKE PATHS, TRAILS OR RECREATION AREAS WITHIN 750 FEET OF THIS SITE. SO, IF YOU JUST RUN THE CIRCLE REGARDLESS OF WHO OWNS IT, THAT'S OVER 40 ACRES.AND THEN WITHIN THE 751 TO 1500 FOOT RADIUS, THAT'S 121.7 ACRES, THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A MINIMUM OF 7500 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE PROMULGATED GUIDELINES HAVE NOT DOCUMENTED ANY EVIDENCE OF THE DISTURBANCE WITH CONSTRUCTION OUTSIDE OF 750 FEET.
THERE IS I WOULD HUMBLY SUGGEST THERE'S NO JUSTIFIABLE BASIS TO LIMIT LOT BASIS BEYOND 750 FEET FROM THE SITE.
THAT IS MORE OF A HUMAN ISSUE. NOT SOMETHING THE EAGLES CARE ABOUT. WHILE THERE'S AN APPLICATION PENDING, IT'S BEEN ON HOLD. WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE NORWOOD. NORWOOD, IF IT GOES FORWARD WILL COME TO YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT THE ALLOWABLE DENSITIES WOULD BE AND THE MITIGATION AND THE LIKE. AND IN TERMS OF ANOTHER CRITERIA, IT'S WHETHER THIS IS BASED EXCLUSIVE UPON A DESIRE TO REDUCE THE COST OF DEVELOPING THE SITE.
IT IS NOT. AND IN FACT, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING UNDER THIS PLAN.
THE MONITORING IS NOT FREE. THE ACRE AGE SET ASIDE FOR THE EAGLE NEST IS NOT FREE. BY THE WAY, THAT 330 FEET.
THAT MAY NOT BE FOREVER, THERE HAS TO BE, IF THERE'S NO DOCUMENTED NESTING ACTIVITY FOR FIVE CONSECUTIVE YEARS, THAT CAN GO AWAY. THAT IS A TALL ORDER.
IT'S NOT JUST THAT WELL, THEY FLEW AWAY AND DIDN'T NEST THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. HAS TO BE FIVE CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF NO NESTING. NEXT THERE'S A COUPLE CRITERIA THAT SIMPLY AREN'T RELEVANT TO THIS AND WANT TO MENTION THEM.
WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE CONGESTION ON SURROUNDING PUBLIC STREETS, THE DANGER OF FIRE OR OTHER HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC.
THE INTENT OF THE EAGLE PROTECTIONS WERE NOT TO ADDRESS THE FIRE RISKS. THOSE ARE ADDRESSED IN OTHER REGULATIONS AND AS TO THE LAST CRITERIA.
WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISH THE PROPERTY VALUES OR ALTER THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA. THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO PROTECT EAGLES AND NOT TO IN PLACE OR MAINTAIN PROPERTY VALUES. THE PROPOSED PLAN WOULD BETTER ALLOW THE LANDOWNERS TO MAKE BETTER USE OF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IN TERMS OF HARMONY. THIS IS ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR REGULATIONS THAT ALLOW FOR AN ALTERNATIVE BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THAT PROVIDES SITE-SPECIFIC STANDARDS BASED ON SCIENCE TO PROTECT THE EAGLE WHILE ALLOWING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRIVATE PRIORITY.
WE PROPOSED THAT NO DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY OCCUR AND NO HUMAN ACCESS. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS?
NO QUESTIONS. >> PAT PIERCE IS HERE IF YOU
HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM TWO.
IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU CAN LINE UP AT EITHER PODIUM.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JAMES HILL.
1070 BELLA V 1070 BELLA VISTA BOULEVARD SAINT
AUGUSTINE. >> I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ST. JOHNS AUDOBON. ST. JOHNS COUNTY AUDOBON COUNTY OPPOSES THE HABITAT PLAN SUBMITTED BY DAY LAKE FOR THE NORWOOD AND GRANT OAKS PROJECTS. AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT'S PLAN WILL ALLOW FOR LAND CLEARING, FILLING AND CONSTRUCTION OF A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SOME OF WHICH WILL BE 330 FEET FROM A SUCCESSFUL
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BALD EAGLE NEST. OUR FIVE MAIN CONCERNS LEAD US TO QUESTION HOW THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE PLAN CAN POSSIBLY BE CONSIDERED AS EQUAL TO OR BETTER THAN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS. OUR CONCERNS ARE AS FOLLOWS.THESE EAGLES DECIDE TO NEST IN AN UNDEVELOPED AREA FOR A REASON. THERE'S NO INDICATION THEY CAN TOLERATE ANY HUMAN ACTIVITY NEAR THEIR NEST.
SINCE THIS NEST HAS BEEN SO RECENTLY DISCOVERED.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE DATA EVEN ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE ABOUT THE PARTICULAR ADULT EAGLES TO SUGGEST THEY CAN TOLERATE A HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT SO CLOSE TO THEIR NEST.
TWO, THERE WILL BE LIMITED NATURAL VEGETATIVE BUFFERS AROUND THE NEST. THE LACK OF BUFFERS AROUND IN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY GIVEN THE EXPERIENCE WE HAD WITH OTHER NESTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY COULD EASILY CAUSE THE ADULT EAGLES TO ABANDON THE NEST SITE.
THREE, PROTECTING EAGLES WILL BECOME MORE DIFFICULT WITH THE
EXPLODING COMMUNITY. >> FOUR, THE PROBLEM WITH FORCING EAGLES TO SMALLER SPECIAL SMALLER HABITAT WILL DIMINISH THE POPULATION. DECREASES HABITAT INCREASES TERRITORIAL FIGHTS AND CAN LEAD TO THE DEATH OF ONE OR MORE OF THE COMBATANTS AND COMPETITION FOR FOOD SOURCES FOR THEIR OWN.
FIVE, WE'RE WATCHING MORE AND MORE WILDLIFE HABITAT DISAPPEAR AT AN ALARMING RATE IN OUR COUNTY.
AT SOME POINT, IF SERIOUS IN PROTECTING THE POPULATION, THE COUNTY NEEDS TO TAKE IN ACCOUNT THE HABITATS NEEDS OF THE SPECIES AS IT RULES AWAY ZONES ORDINANCES.
FOR THE REASONS I OUTLINED ABOVE AND IN OUR COMMENTS PROVIDED YESTERDAY, WE URGE YOU TO VOTE NOW ON THE NORWOOD 2021 BALD EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THANK YOU SIR
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE, I WANT TO START YOUR TIME OVER.
>> SORRY, RHONDA LEVET. ON122 SCOTLAND YARD BOULEVARD.
I AM A VOLUNTEER WITH AUDOBON ST. JOHNS.
AND A SECONDARY ZONE EXTENDING ANOTHER 750 FEET.
THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES TO CIRCUMVENT THIS.
THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE MITIGATION PLAN.
GRAND CREEK. SO I'LL START BY REFERENCING PAGE NINE AND PAGE 12 OF THE U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE GUIDELINES. SO DOWN HERE.
THE SIZE AND SHAPE OF AFFECTIVE BUFFERS VARY.
DEPENDING ON THE TOP GRAPHIC CAL AND OTHER ECOLOGICAL CHARACTERISTICS SURROUNDING NESTS.
>> CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE OVER HEAD.
>> FURTHER, CONSEQUENTLY, IN OPEN AREAS, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE ACTIVITY AND THE NEST MAY NEED TO BE LARGER THAN THE DISTANCES SUMMARIZED UNDER CATEGORIES A AND B.
SO NEXT WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT CATEGORY A AND B ENTAIL.
I WILL PROPOSE WHERE IN CATEGORY B SO ONE TO TWO STORY BUILDINGS WITH PROJECT FOOTPRINT OF MORE THAN HALF OF AN ACRE.
THERE'S NO SIMILAR ACTIVITY WITHIN A MILE OF THE NEST.
THE ACTIVITY WILL BE VISIBLE FROM THE NEST.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IS 660 FEET PLUS LANDSCAPE BUFFERS RECOMMENDED. NOT 330 FEET.
ADDITIONALLY GOES TO STATE THAT NUMERICAL DISTANCES SHOWN IN THE TABLE ARE THE CLOSEST THE ACTIVITY SHOULD BE.
SO, AGAIN WE HAVE SEEN WHAT THE NEST LOOKS LIKE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE NEST IS HERE.
THERE'S AN OPEN FIELD. THERE WOULD BE ACTIVITY AND FURTHER CONSTRUCTION HERE FURTHER MAKING IT AN OPEN NEST.
THIS IS WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE FROM AN OPEN FIELD STANDPOINT. THIS IS OUTSIDE.
THIS IS THE 660 FEET. ALL OF THIS IS OPEN.
IT IS AN OPEN NEST. I WOULD GO ON TO SHOW THE GRAND CREEK THAT'S BEEN REFERENCED IS NOT IN MY MIND SIMILAR AT ALL.
IN FACT THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S IN THIS 330 TO 660 AND THE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T COME INTO THE BUFFER AT ALL.
WE DID TALK ABOUT ALSO THE THIS IS THE NOCATEE, THE HIGH DRY
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NEST. HAS A WELL DEFINED CANOPY OF TREES. IT'S NOT OPEN NEXT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS HERE.SO THE BALD EAGLE MITIGATION PROPOSED DOESN'T ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE 2007 U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE GUIDELINES WITH THE BUFFERS FOR THIS NEST AND THE TWO REFERENCED PLANS DON'T APPEAR TO BE SIMILAR. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOTE VOTE ON THIS AND I ALSO SENT AN E-MAIL WITH ADDITIONAL STATISTIC FROM ONE NEST WITH THE 750 FOOT BARRIER.
THANK YOU. >> THIS IS MS. LOVETTE.
WOULD YOU PLEASE TURN THAT INTO THE STAFF.
THANK YOU. >> CHUCK LEBNOW SKI.
I LOVE THE BALD EAGLES IN THAT AREA.
MATTER OF FACT WE ARE THE STEWARDS OF THE WILDLIFE.
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT. THEY CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO BE PROTECTING THEM.
TO SHRINK DOWN THE AREA OF PROTECTION SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S A NEST HERE. BUT THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S ALSO THE SIGNS OF A NEST HERE. I KNOW I HAVE SEEN IT HERE IN PAST COUPLE YEARS BALD EAGLES IN THAT NEST RIGHT OFF THE 16.
SO I DON'T KNOW MAYBE SOMEONE FROM THE AUDOBON CAN TELL ME IF THAT'S AN ACTIVE NEST. I HAVE SEEN THE EAGLES ROOSTING IN THE TREE. IT'S A CONCERN WE'RE TAKING THE HABITAT AND SHRINKING IT DOWN. I WOULD
>> SHERRY BADGER, SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE.
COME ON GUYS. THESE EAGLES HAVE BEEN PUSHED AROUND. YOU CAN'T TAKE AND MAKE A WILD ANIMAL GO SOMEWHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO GO.
IF YOU TAKE THE OPEN FIELD AND THEIR FEEDING GROUNDS AND I DID, I WATCH FOR BIDDEN HISTORY THE OTHER DAY AND I DID LEARN WHAT A REAL CARPET BAGGER WAS. SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? IT'S GOING TO BE A FOOT RACE. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. >> RACE TO THE PODIUM.
>> MORY LONG. 1810 CASTEEL STREET.
I REMEMBER WHEN THE COMMISSION, I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER DEAN AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON WHAT DOES IT WAS PROPROSED TO THEM, THEY WERE GOING TO SHRINK THE 750 TO 1500
>> I THINK THE COUNTY HAS RULED ESTABLISHING A 750 PRIMARY ZONE AND 1500 FOOT SECONDARY ZONE FROM THE NEST.
AT THE TIME, THE COMMISSION DECIDED THEY WEREN'T GOING TO SHRINK IT AND STAY THE SAME TIME REGARDLESS OF WHAT FWC SAID TO DO. I'M NOT AN AUDOBON PERSON BUT BEING OUT ON FISH ISLAND, YOU HAD TO STAY FAR AWAY.
VERY FAR AWAY AND THAT IS AN AREA THAT HAS MUCH VEGETATION.
I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE WHERE I HEARD THEM ALL OF A SUDDEN GET SOMETHING. THEY WERE AS SHOCKED AS I WAS.
IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN AREA AND A NEST CLOSE BY AND SHRINK THAT AREA MORE, THE 300 EVEN THE MAX THEY SAID THEY MIGHT USE IS 660 FEET. THAT IS WAY, WAY TOO CLOSE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE KNOW THAT EAGLES WILL GO TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT NESTS. THEY WILL GO BACK AND FORTH INTO THE SAME AREA AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
SO, IF YOU WOULD, I APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD VOTE NO FOR THIS AND LET'S KEEP THE SPACE AWAY FROM 750 TO 1500 FEET AND GIVE THESE EAGLES A CHANCE. WE NEED THEM.
I KNOW THEY ARE NOT IN DANGER BUT WE NEED THEM.
>> THANK YOU MS. LONG. GOT THE RED LIGHT.
B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.
>> I WAS HAVING TROUBLE FOLLOWING THE LAWYER DURING THE PRESENTATION. I FINALLY GOT IT.
WE NEED TO HEAR FROM OUR ENVIRONMENTAL COUNTY STAFF.
I KNOW IT'S PROCEDURE. YOU GET A PRESENTER AND NOT THE STAFF. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE STAFF. THE LAWYER IS NOT EXPERT AS THE PRESENTER ON THIS ISSUE. SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR FROM ST.
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JOHNS COUNTY AUDOBON SOCIETY. I TAKE THEIR INFORMATION.THE ST. JOHNS AUDOBON FOUND THE NEST.
I KNOW OUR STAFF CAN'T DO THAT AND CHECK ON TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY HAVE TO DO HERE.
IF THE SOCIETY HAS NOT FOUND THIS, I REALLY WONDER WHO WOULD HAVE TOLD US ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. IF THERE'S ANY CONSTRUCTION.
BUT WHO WOULD HAVE TOLD US AND BRING THAT OUR ATTENTION? I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS GOING TO CHECK ON THIS IN FUTURE.
I'M AGREEING WITH AUDOBON AND THE LADY AND MS. LONG QUICK TO GET UP HERE TO VOTE NO ON THIS REQUEST TO PROTECT OUR FEATHERED FRIENDS. THAT FLY AROUND ABOVE US.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MS. KLATY.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM TWO?
>> SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE ON ITEM TWO.
>> TOM, ANY COMMENTS? OR ADDITIONS? BRIEFLY AGAIN. PATRICK PIERCE IS HERE.
OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF HIM. THE PROPOSED AREA FOR PRESERVATION IS NOT SIMPLY THE AREA WITHIN 330 FEET.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL WETLANDS AREAS AND CANOPY ASSOCIATED WITH TURN BALL CREEK PROPOSED TO BE OFF LIMITS TO DEVELOPMENT.
IT DOES TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SPECIFIC SITE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA. THAT'S REALLY IT.
>> CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE HISTORY OF NORWOOD RIGHT NOW?
SO, BRIEFLY, IT WAS UNDER CONTRACT TO MY FORMER CLIENT TO DEVELOP AND THEY BEGAN THE ZONING AND LAND USE AMENDMENT PROCESS AND THIS EVEN WITH WHAT WE PROPOSED HERE TODAY, THEY WERE UNABLE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT WORK.
SO THE APPLICATION IS ON HOLD. THE LANDOWNER ULTIMATELY CONTROLS WHETHER TO PULL AN APPLICATION OR NOT.
BUT, IT'S ON INDEFINITE HOLD RIGHT NOW.
BUT YOU KNOW AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WORKED THROUGH COMMENTS, SIGNIFICANT TIME AND EFFORT, IT WAS AT THE 11TH HOUR IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THERE WAS A NEW EAGLE NEST ON THAT SITE AT WHICH TIME IT IS WENT TO A HALT.
WE ASKED TO POSTPONE HEARINGS AND WE CAME AND WORKED ON THIS EAGLE MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH EFFECTS GRAND OAKS AND NORWOOD.
>> IS IT ZONED OR? >> OR AND RS LAND USE.
SO ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE 330 TO 660 FOOT AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STILL COMES BACK TO YOU AT THE ZONING STAGE TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS OF IT AND THIS EAGLE PLAN HAS HEIGHT LIMITS.
IT HAS LIMITS ON WHEN CONSTRUCTION CAN OCCUR.
IT REQUIRES MONITORING. BUT DOESN'T GET INTO DENSITIES FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S A ZONING ISSUE.
R I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR MS. BREWER HERE.
ENVIRONMENTAL. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAD QUESTIONS FOR MS. BREWER BUT I CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO ANSWER THIS.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT MS. LOVET PUT
UP, WHAT SECTION IS THAT? >> YES, SIR, I HAVE A DOCUMENT.
I HAVE A BLOWN UP COPY OF THAT. ONE CORRECTION I DID WANT TO INDICATE IS, PERFECT. SO, WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS, WE ACTUALLY THE TOP COLUMN HERE YOU WILL SEE IT DOES HAVE TWO SECTIONS. IF THERE'S NO SIMILAR ACTIVITY WITHIN 1 MILE OF THE NEST TREE, SIMILAR ACTIVITY. IF THERE IS - SO, WE DO HAVE SIMILAR ACTIVITY. AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE GRAND OAKS.
I BELIEVE WE MEASURED IT AROUND 500ISH FEET.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT. IT IS WITHIN A MILE.
SO THEREFORE WE ALSO DID DETERMINE THAT THE ACTIVITY WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE NEST TREE BASED ON THE SURROUNDING TREE CANOPY THAT WILL BE PRESERVED WITHIN 330 FEET AS WELL AS TURN BALL CREEK CONSERVATION AREA.
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THAT WILL BE PRESERVED AS WELL. SO, THEREFORE WE WOULD FALL INAND THEN IF IT WAS, I CAN'T READ THE TOP OF IT.
I'M SORRY. SO IF IT'S OVER 3 STORIES, THEY HAD A THREE STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, THEY WANT TO BUILD,
WOULD THAT CHANGE ANYTHING? >> NO, SIR.
IT STILL FALLS UNDER CATEGORY B, THREE OR MORE STORIES
THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN, I CAN'T RECALL TOO MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION BACK WHEN WE DID LOOK
AT THIS YEARS AGO. >> I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT I HAD FOR BREAKFAST. I'M SORRY.
I DON'T REMEMBER EITHER FROM THREE YEARS AGO.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES.
I JUST DON'T REMEMBER. >> YES, SIR, I DON'T EITHER.
>> I DO HAVE DOCUMENTS. AERIAL MAPS AS WELL FOR THE NESTS THAT HAVE ALTERNATIVE PLANS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE. SO I THINK THIS IS THE ONE THAT TOM MENTIONED. THIS IS OUR NOCATEE HIGH DRY NEST SJ 93 HERE. YOU CAN SEE THIS NEST DOES HAVE TREE CANOPY. WE DO HAVE A ROADWAY COMING
RIGHT THROUGH HERE. >> THE ROADWAY IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WAS BUILT BEFORE THE NEST -- I KNOW SO, YES, SIR.
>> WE ALSO DO HAVE SJ 21. THIS IS RAVEN'S WOOD.
THIS DOES HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN APPROVED.
SO WE DO HAVE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THERE.
THIS IS SJ 38. AND THAT'S THE PLANTATION NEST AND SJ 24. THESE ALL HAVE APPROVED ALTERNATE MANAGEMENT THANK YOU.
>> YES, SIR. >> ANY OTHER -- COMMISSIONER
ARNOLD. >> IN REGARDS TO THOSE PLANS, WAS THE CONSTRUCTION THERE FIRST OR THE EAGLE THERE IS FIRST?
>> SOME OF THESE WERE EAGLES FIRST.
SOME WERE CONSTRUCTION FIRST. IT VARIES.
WE DO HAVE SOME NESTS. I THINK OUR JOINT CREEK NEST IS THE OLDEST ALTERNATIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN WE HAVE.
THAT NEST I BELIEVE WAS FOUND AFTER WE HAD SOME
>> YES, MA'AM. >> LT ME LET ME IF I MAY, ASK YOU A QUESTION. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS PLAN BEING SUBMITTED BY DAY LATE IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY LEVEL OF SAFETY TO THE EAGLES NEST IN ANY POTENTIAL HATCHLINGS OR
FLEDGLINGS? >> YES, SIR, STAFF EVALUATED THE MANAGEMENT PLAN AND FOUND IT TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FISH AND WILDLIFE 2007 GUIDELINES AND EQUAL OR GREATER TO THE
PROTECTIONS IN THE LAND CODE. >> I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
SORRY. I READ AN ARTICLE SOMEWHERE I DIDN'T GET THE ACTUAL WHERE THE AREA WAS BUT HAD EAGLES DYING OF
BIRD FLU. >> WE ACTUALLY -- WE HAVE DATA ON THAT. I HAD A FEELING THIS MIGHT COME UP SINCE IT'S BEEN IN RECENT NEWS.
LET ME PUT THIS OVER HERE FOR YOU.
THIS IS FROM FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION. THIS IS DATED AS OF MAY NINE.
THIS MAYBE A LITTLE OUT OF DATE. WE MIGHT HAVE MORE CONFIRMED DETECTIONS. AS OF THE NINTH.
WE DID HAVE NINE DETECTIONS. SOME IN BREVARD AND DUVAL.
MOSTLY IN BREVARD. WE HAD DETECTIONS.
WE COULD NOT FIND A LOT OF DATA ON ANY EAGLE DEATHS BUT WE HAVE
THESE 10 CONFIRMED AS OF MAY >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. >> I YESTERDAY JUST READ JUST -- I JUST READ THE ARTICLE AND COULDN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT
IT WAS. >> IF THERE AREN'T MORE QUESTIONS. IS THERE A MOTION?
>> WHERE MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE DENY 2022-01 AND ALTERNATIVE BALD EAGLE PLAN FOR BALD EAGLE NEST
SJ 21 BASED ON FIVE FINDINGS >> I'M SORRY.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
IF WE NEED TO GO BACK, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET TO REFINE THE PLAN RATHER THAN TO BE SLAMMED DOWN.
I MEAN IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC CONCERNS, WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET
AND I TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE. >> THAT'S REALLY UP TO THE MOTION MAKER AND SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
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I'M SAYING THAT'S HOW IT WOULD HAVE TO PROCEED.YOU HAVE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
DO WE NEED -- OKAY. SO -- THE MOTION TO DENY ON THE RECORD PASSES 4-1. WITH CHAIRMAN VOTING NO.
IS THAT CLEAR? DO WE NEED TO REVOTE?
[3. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2021-23 Southwood Phases 3 and 4.(Part 1 of 2) ]
>> CAN WE JUST HAVE MR. BLOCKER TURN HIS MIC ON.
>> I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. WE ARE READY TO REVOTE.
THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE APPLICATION.
AND THAT TAKES CARE OF NUMBER 2. WE'RE ROLLING LONG.
NUMBER 3. QUASI JUDICIAL ON THREE.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I DID BRIEFLY MR. DOUG BURNETT WE HAD NOT SPOKEN PRIOR TO TODAY BUT WE HAD A MOMENT TO SPEAK DURING THE INTERMISSION. HE BRIEFLY ASKED IF I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECT. I DID NOT.
PAUL. >> ON THURSDAY MAY 12TH AT 10:00 A.M., I HAD A MEETING WITH DOUG BURNETT AND APPLICANTS, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET THE GENTLEMEN'S MAN.
WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT AND NO CHANGES.
REDUCTION IN UNITS AND IT WAS SOUTH WOOD PHASES 3 AND FOUR.
WE DISCUSSED TRAFFIC. DISCUSSED INGRESS AND EGRESS, HAVE A SAFETY GOING THROUGH THE SHORES, WHICH AT THE TIME I WAS TOLD THE NEIGHBORS WOULD NOT LIKE THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. ON MONDAY MAY FIFTH, NO.
MONDAY MAY NINE. I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND PAUL MICHAEL AND WE TOUCHED ON THE FACT THERE WOULD BE NO INTERCONNECTING BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS PAUL?
>> YES, SIR. >> THAT SEEMS TO BE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR SOME HOMEOWNERS AND THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT AT THAT
LOCATION ON TO U.S. 1. >> ON MONDAY MAY NINTH, THIS IS 10:30 P.M. I CAN ASSURE YOU, IT WAS 10:30 A.M. I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND PAUL MICHAEL AND DISCUSSED INTERCONNECTIVITY AND TRAFFIC AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR REDUCTION OF UNITS.
RECEIVED A COUPLE E-MAILS IN OPPOSITION.
NO MORE THAN TWO, PERHAPS THREE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
MS. ARNOLD. ON THURSDAY MAY 12, AT APPROXIMATELY 11:00 A.M. I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND THE APPLICANT. DISCUSSED THE REDUCTION OF THE UNITS, TRAFFIC AND THE INTERCONNECTIVITY.
MR. BURNETT. FRONT AND CENTER.
FOR THE RECORD, DOUG BURNETT, WITH ME TODAY THIS IS A KB HOME PROJECT. WITH ME TODAY IS PAUL MICHAEL.
VICE PRESIDENT AT KB. HERE LOCALLY.
THE PROJECT AREA. MIDWAY BETWEEN STATE ROAD 206 AND STATE ROAD 312. HALFWAY BETWEEN WATSON AND WILD WOOD DRIVE ON U.S. ONE. YOU CAN SEE THE SHORES BOULEVARD LOOP GOING AROUND AND IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS THE PROJECT.
IT'S NOT PART OF THE SHORES. IT'S A SEPARATE PUD.
SOUTH WOOD PUD. THE MOST NOTICEABLE THING YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE WITH SOUTH WOOD TYPICALLY IS THIS IS WHERE MAYO CLINIC IS LOCATED, RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE.
SOUTH WOOD AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL WHERE THE SOUTH WOOD LAKE DRIVE COMES INTO THE NORTH. THERE'S A LOT OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL THERE PART OF PHASE ONE.
TO THE SOUTH IS THE BELL HAVEN CONDOMINIUM AND WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT PHASE THREE AND FOUR. LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTION OF U.S. ONE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A FOUR LANE ACCESS POINT COMING IN THE SOUTH WOOD AND YOU CAN SEE TO THE RIGHT THE MAYO CLINIC
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SIGN IN FRONT OF THE MAYO CLINIC BUILDING.THERE'S ALSO A FULL MEDIAN ACCESS WITH AN EXISTING LEFT AREA FOR TURNING MOVEMENT IN THAT MEDIAN CUT.
THE PROPERTY ITSELF ALL OF SOUTH WOOD IS RESIDENTIAL C.
SO UP TO 6 UNITS AN ACRE. WE'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING FAR LESS THAN THAT. IF YOU TOOK JUST THE ACRE AGE OF OUR PORTION. YOU WOULD GET UP TO 205 UNITS.
IF YOU TOOK THE OVERALL PUD, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET MORE THAN THAT. FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF FOR ZONING. AGAIN IT IS PART OF PUD.
THIS IS EXPIRED PHASES THREE AND FOUR.
BUT IT'S BEEN ZONED PUD SINCE 1988.
WE DO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL. WE HAVE A WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILITY. LOOKING AT THE PROJECT ITSELF.
ON THE LEFT IS THE 1988 ORDINANCE.
SO IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE ON THE BOOKS.
IN '91. THIS IS WHERE THE PUD WAS BROKEN OUT INTO THE FOUR PHASES AND WE'RE HERE ABOUT PHASE THREE AND FOUR. INTERESTING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE PROJECT, THIS IS AN MDP MAP FOR WHEN THE CONDOMINIUM WAS APPROVED. AND IT CALLED OUT ON THERE IN THE OVERALL INSERT TO SHOW THE OVERALL PROJECT.
CALLED OUT PHASE THREE AND FOUR. IN THIS MDP MAP.
AND THEN AGAIN IN A MODIFICATION OF MDP MAP.
THIS IS 2003, 2004 AND SHOWS THE LOT LINES IN THE OVERALL PROJECT. THE APPROVED MDP MAP, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS PHASE THREE AND FOUR.
JUST PUT A MATCH LINE TO IT SO YOU CAN IN YOUR MIND REALIZE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. OUR MAP, WE PUT PHASE THREE AND FOUR IN ONE MDP MAP SO IT'S EASY TO VIEW.
MATTHEW'S DESIGN GROUP IN SAINT AUGUSTINE DID THIS MDP FOR US AND YOU CAN SEE THE MATCH LINE HOW PHASE THREE AND FOUR FITS TOGETHER WITHIN 1 DRAWING. APPLICATION SUMMARY.
THE THING TO NOTE HERE IS UNDER THAT ORIGINAL PLAN THAT'S APPROVED, BUT EXPIRED AT THIS STAGE, IT WAS APPROVED FOR 113 UNITS AND WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS 101 UNITS.
REDUCTION OF 12 UNITS EVEN THOUGH SIMILAR LAYOUT AND ROAD LOCATIONS AND THE LIKE FOR KB'S PROJECT.
IT'S FITS WITH THE 101 UNITS. THERE'S YOUR MATCH LINE WHERE YOU SEE THE TWO VERSIONS SIDE BY SIDE.
PUTTING A LITTLE COLOR TO OUR PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE FOUR MAIN RETENTION PONDS/LAKES.
THE CONSERVATION AREA AND OPEN SPACE.
AND THEN UNLIKE YOUR TYPICAL PUD THAT WE SEE AROUND THE COUNTY WHERE YOU HAVE A 10 FOOT BUFFER. THE AREA IS ACTUALLY 25 FOOT BUFFER GOING AROUND THE PROJECT. THE ISSUE OF INTERCONNECTIVITY.
A NUMBER OF YOU MENTIONED THIS AS PART OF YOUR DISCLOSURES IN THE PUD. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, BUT ENCOURAGES IT.
AND OF COURSE, SO OFTEN TIMES WITH PUDS YOU WANT TO HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN THIS PROJECT, THE FOLKS ON DEL MORRA, YOU CAN SEE TWO ROADWAYS THAT BASICALLY STOP IT'S THIS PROPERTY THAT ARE PART OF THE SHORES. DEL MORA ON THE EAST AND LILLY ROAD ON THE WEST THERE. ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO THE PROJECT AND COME DOWN TO SOUTH WOOD LANE
>> THE PROBLEM IS, YOU HAVE A DYNAMIC OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS IN SOUTH WOOD IN PHASE ONE AND TWO.
THEY DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC. ON THE FLIP SIDE, THE FOLKS ON DEL MORRA, LILLY AND OTHERS WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC AND WOULD BE A POTENTIAL CUT THROUGH STREET.
IF YOU LOOK SHORES BOULEVARD WRAPPING AROUND AND WHERE WE FIT IN THE DO NUT, IT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL FOR A CUT THROUGH.
NEITHER SIDE WANTS THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY.
THIS IS A KB HOME PROJECT LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE AND THEY ARE VERY PROACTIVE AND MET WITH THE MASTER ASSOCIATION.
SOUTH WOOD ITSELF IS PART OF A MASTER ASSOCIATION AND ACTUALLY GOT THEIR APPROVAL FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY FOR THE PROJECT. ONE OTHER ISSUE WHICH IS KB BEING PROACTIVE WENT AND MET WITH BELL HAVEN WHICH IS IN THIS AREA OF THE PROJECT JUST TO THE WEST OF THE AREA I'M SHOWING YOU HERE AND THE CONCERN WAS RELATED TO STORMWATER AND BUFFERING IN
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THIS AREA. WE CAME UP WITH THE MDP TEXT OF WHAT WE NEED TO GET OUR PROJECT BACK ON TRACK IF YOU WILL, TO RE-ACTIVATE THE PUD. THE ONLY LANGUAGE IN THERE OTHER THAN TIMING IS THE LANGUAGE YOUR STAFF ASKED US TO ADD RELATING TO UTILITIES AND SPACING BETWEEN STRUCTURES AND SOME OF THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE. BUT THEN THESE TWO PAGES WERE ADDED SPECIFICALLY FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH BELL HAVEN OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED US TO ADDRESS.STORMWATER, SOME BUFFERING MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO IF WE TEAR THE ROAD UP DURING CONSTRUCTION, ADDRESS THE ISSUES. WE ADDED THAT INTO THE PUD TEXT AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE AREA. BUILDING 116 AND 120.
IF YOU STOOD THERE AS AN AVERAGE PERSON AND LOOKED AT IT.
IT'S NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT. THERE'S WATER COMING OFF THE ROOFS AND IT'S HEADED TO A SWALE BEHIND RIGHT ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE BASICALLY IT SAYS KB WILL HANDLE THE STORMWATER AND PUT INTO THE POND. WITH THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE TEXT REPRESENTED BY TIERRAR LINE.
CHRISTINE HURDLE WAS AT OUR PZA HEARING ON BEHALF OF THE BELL HAVEN AND VOICED THAT THE BELL HAVEN BOARD WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT WITH THOSE CONDITIONS ADDED.
TRAFFIC, STORMWATER AND DENSITY. I TOUCHED ON THOSE.
WE DID GET A 5-0 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL.
AND THERE WAS SOMETHING BY DR. RAISEN BECK.
THIS IS BY BEST TAKING DOWN OF WHAT HE SAID.
HE COMMENTED HE IS THE FIRST PERSON TO VOTE AGAINST PROJECTS AND COULDN'T FIND A REASON TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
PEOPLE NOTICE THIS IS COMING FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THE SOUTH WOOD LAKE DRIVE DEAD ENDS HERE.
YOU DRIVE HERE AND IT DEAD ENDS. IT'S VERY CLEAR AND THE DIRT ROAD CONDITIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.
A VERY CLEAR INDICATION OF DEVELOPMENT AND COME BACK UP AND SAVE THE REST FOR REBUTTAL IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 3. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU CAN USE EITHER ONE OF PODIUMS AVAILABLE.
949 RIDGE WOOD LANE. I'M IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE SUBDIVISION. I HAVE OWNED TWO HOMES AND WAS WELL AWARE OF THE PROJECT. WE WERE ADVISED EACH TIME WE BOUGHT A HOME THAT THIS WAS COMING.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WHAT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THE ROAD.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE ROAD.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD 101 HOMES. THIS WILL BRING 428 TOTAL HOMES AND CONDOS PLUS THE MAYO CLINIC, THE STAFF AND THE PATIENTS COMING TO THIS ESTABLISHMENT AND STILL USING OUR ENTRY WAY.
LOOKS LIKE TWO DRIVE ENTRY WAY. WE HAVE NO LINING MARKING THAT.
ANYBODY COMING INTO THE ENTRY WAY.
ENTERING IS OKAY. PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE IT'S AS WIDE AS IT IS IT'S A SINGLE AGREE.
WE HAVE NO LINES TO TELL US OTHERWISE.
WE HAVE 78 OFFICES IN ONE NURSERY THAT IS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET ON THE WEST SIDE OFUS ONE.
THEY ALL HAVE TO USE OUR MEDIAN. COMING FROM THE SOUTH, THERE'S NO MEDIANS BETWEEN US AND WATSON ROAD.
THEY HAVE TO COME NORTH TO U.S. ONE TO GO SOUTH.
PEOPLE COMING FROM ACROSS THE STREET ARE USING OUR TURN AROUND TO GO NORTH. PEOPLE COMING FROM THE NORTH THAT WANT TO TURN AROUND AND GO BACK NORTH ARE USING THIS SOUTHBOUND LANE TO TURN AROUND AND COME BACK TO GO NORTH.
THEY ARE ALSO USING OUR LANES. NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHORES, IT IS PERFECT. IT HAS FOUR ENTRIES WITHIN A MATTER OF 2000 FEET. ONE HAS A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND ALSO
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A SERVICE DRIVE. PERFECT FOR THEM.AND DORA WHICH HAS, IT WOULD BE THE FARTHEST SOUTH ENTRY DOES HAVE A MEDIAN. IT'S A VERY SMALL MEDIAN.
THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
THESE PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THEY CAN USE OUR MEDIAN TO TURN AROUND. WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM ACROSS THE ROAD AND GOING OUT. IT'S JUST A COLLAGE OF WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE USING ONE MEDIAN. WE NEED HELP THERE.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE POINT LIKE SILVER LEAF WHERE THERE'S SUCH A PROBLEM OUT THERE WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING, WE WANT SOMETHING DONE NOW SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM AGAIN. AND THANK YOU THERE WHITEHURST FOR ANSWERING MY E-MAIL AND YOU ALSO MR. WALDRON.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY E-MAIL.
IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT THE COUNTY CAN WORK WITH THE STATE, THERE IS A STATE SURVEY GOING ON NOW.
THEY PROMISED A SPEED STUDY. IF THERE'S SOMEONE TO WORK WITH IN THE COUNTY, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
>> YOU CAN GET CAN STAFF AND THEY CAN DIRECT YOU TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. HAPPY TO HELP YOU.
I AM JINDY. I LIVE AT 269 BALARI X IN THE VILLAGE. I HAVE READ THE COMPLETE FILE OF ALL COMMUNICATIONS IN THE FILE. ALL THOSE HOUSES THAT THEY ARE NOT BUILDING THAT WENT FROM 113 TO 101 WAS BECAUSE THE COUNTY BUILDING DEPARTMENT SAID AH, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
THEY WANTED TO TAKE THE 50-FOOT EASEMENT THAT WAS PREAGREED AND PUT HOUSING ON IT. THEY COULDN'T DO THAT.
AND THEY WANTED TO PUT HOUSES ON TOP THE POND CLOSEST TO THE BELL HAVEN AND THEY SAID, NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT EITHER BECAUSE THAT POND WAS PUT IN ALONG WITH SPECIAL PIPING.
BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING SO THEY HAD TO FIX THAT.
GENEROSITY IS NOT WHAT CAUSED THAT DECREASE.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO DO WITH ONE OF OUR COUNTY'S ORDINANCES AS A MATTER OF FACT.
THIS IS THE SUPPOSED TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF THE COUNTY WITH THE PUBLIC MAKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AVAILABLE TO, SAYS NOTIFICATION OF AND SUBMISSION OF ANY APPLICATION OR PREAPPLICATION FOR THE COUNTY APPROVE OF THE SPECIAL USE TEMPORARY USE ET CETERA, ET CETERA. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OTHER SIGNIFICANT LAND USE CHANGE APPLICATION.
SUPPOSED TO INITIATE WITHIN 10 DAYS OF SUBMISSION TO THE COUNTY. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT DO THEY CALL? THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS NOTIFICATION.
NOW, I WAS AT THE LAST MEETING FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. AND THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE DEVELOPER WERE THERE. AND THEY SAID OH, YES.
THEY CONTACTED TWO OF THE ASSOCIATIONS AND THEY HAD MEETINGS WITH THEM. AND THEN THEY WERE ASKED DID THEY CONTACT ANYBODY ELSE. NO WAS THE ANSWER.
SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, OUR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION WAS NOT NOTIFIED. SO WE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE A MEETING TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT OUR ISSUES.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS AN OPTION. WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
THIS IS CALLED THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS NOTIFICATION
I'M SORRY THAT IS YOUR THREE >> YES.
THANK YOU. >> THIS IS ADJOINING AREA AND
ALSO HERE. >> SORRY, HAVE TO MOVE ON.
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
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>> MICHELE MCGUARDY. 433 BEL AIRIX DRIVE IN THE VILLAGE OF OF VALENCIA IN ONE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WASN'T CONTACTED. THIS IS ROUGHLY THE IDEA.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT EXACTLY CORRECT.
BUT, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IS CONSIDERATION TO ELIMINATE PHASE FOUR OF THE PROJECT.
PHASE THREE IS WHERE SOUTH WOOD WAS AND ALTHOUGH THE SOUTH WOOD PEOPLE WERE AWARE THAT SOMETHING WOULD BE DEVELOPED, THE PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGES OF VALENCIA WAS TOLD NOTHING COULD BE DEVELOPED.
THIS INCLUDES ALL YOU HEARD ABOUT THE DENSITY AND THE GROWTH POPULATION. I MEAN BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU SAID OUR COUNTY INCREASED 43% IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND THAT WAS INCREASE WAS 83,000 AND MR. DEAN, YOU WERE QUOTED IN THE PAPER IN THE JACKSONVILLE TIMES ON APRIL 11TH SAYING EVEN IF NO MORE HOUSES WERE ADDED, THE COUNTY HAS A DEFICIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADS PARKS, LIBRARIES AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE FACILITIES.
I KNOW YOU CONDUCTED THE MEETINGS FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
THOSE TWO MEETINGS, SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE PRESENTING TODAY WERE THERE WHERE THEY SUBMITTED COMMENTS AND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WERE ASKING FOR PLANNED GROWTH.
AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS JUST TO ELIMINATE ABOUT 20 HOUSES OUT OF THIS PROPOSAL. SO PLANNING A LITTLE BIT.
A SECOND ISSUE FOR CONSIDERATION WAS ACTUALLY VOICED AT PLANNING AND ZONING BY DDR. HELENSBACK AND WAS CONCERNED ABOUT EMERGENCIES AND 8.1.7.7 STATES THE COUNTY SHALL ENFORCE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES ON SITE CIRCULATION. BECAUSE OF THE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT WOULD BE ELIMINATED BY ELIMINATING PHASE FOUR AND CROSSING THE WETLANDS WOULD BE ELIMINATED BY ELIMINATING PHASE FOUR WHICH IS A CONSIDERATION. FINALLY THE ISSUE OF THE ENDANG ERRED SPECIES AND OTHER WILDLIFE.
PHOTOS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OF A BOB CAT IN THE VILLAGES OF VALENCIA AND RESIDENTS HAVE SPOTTED INDIGO SNAKES.
GOPHERS AND TORTOISES. AS A RESIDENT WHO WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT. I REQUEST YOU CONSIDER THE NEED FOR MANAGED GROWTH. SAFETY FOR RESIDENTS WHOSE HOUSES ARE LOCATED WAY IN THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY, ENSURING THE INTEGRITY OF THE WETLANDS AND SUPPORTING THE WILDLIFE THAT SEE THIS LAND AS THEIR HOME. THANK YOU.
>> MY NAME IS CAROL HUGHES AND I'M READING THIS STATEMENT FOR MY NEIGHBOR, DONNA FLAKE AT 426 WHO HAD TO LEAVE AND GO TO WORK.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.
IN ADDITION TO THE INCREDIBLE A LOT OF WILDLIFE MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS HAVE THE PLEASURE OF VIEWING DAILY.
SUCH AS TURKEYS, BOBCATS. DEERS, GOPHER TURTLES.
I HAVE GREAT CONCERN FOR THE GROWTH OF FAMILY HOMES AND THE IMPACT ON THE SMALL AND LIMITED SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTH AREA.
QUESTIONING PLANS FOR SOUTH ST. AUGUSTINE SCHOOL CHANGES AND WHAT ARE THE PLANS IF ANY? IN RELATION TO THE BUILD IMPACTING MY HOME AND NEIGHBORS, WE ARE ALL TOLD AT THE TIME IT WAS NO KNOWLEDGE THAT THE LAND WAS PROTECTED WETLANDS GIVING THE REASON WE PURCHASED THE BUILT HOME.
NOW INSTEAD OF FOREST, I WILL HAVE A POND.
I HAVE SMALL CHILDREN EVERY YEAR.
YOU HEAR OF CHILDREN DROWNING IN UNSECURED OPEN WATER.
NOW I HAVE TO CONSIDER FENCING WHICH IS NOT BUDGETED FOR US JUST TO GUARANTEE THEIR SAFETY. FURTHERMORE, THIS WATER IS NOT MANAGED BY OUR HOA. IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES WITH ALGAE, MOSQUITOES OR WILDLIFE WE HAVE NO SAY.
WE THE VILLAGES OF VALENCIA REQUEST A LARGER WOODED EASEMENT WITH NATURAL DENSITY AS A BUFFER.
WE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER WHICH BELL
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HAVEN DID HAVE AND FINALLY WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTERSECTION WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC BACK AND FORTH AND THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
YES, MA'AM. >> HI, I'M MARY HOLMES.
MY ADDRESSES 329 BALLY ERICS DRIVE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES WHEN I WAS AT THE ZONING MEETING.
THAT DR. RICHARD HILLSENBECK BROUGHT UP THREE ISSUES I DON'T FEEL WERE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THE PASSING PROJECT.
AND ONE YOU ALL HEARD ABOUT IS THE ONE ROAD IN AND OUT.
WITH OVER 100 HOMES ADDED TO THE CURRENT HOMES AND THE SITUATION WITH EMERGENCIES, HURRICANES AND ET CETERA.
THE SECOND ISSUE WAS THE WATER FLOW.
NO ONE HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT TODAY.
THERE WAS KNOW ISSUE THAT DR. HILLSENBECK ASKED REGARDING WATER FLOW FROM MOLE CREEK AND IS THAT RIGHT? MOLTRY CREEK AND THROUGH THIS AREA.
THERE ARE SOME WET AREAS BACK THROUGH THERE AND SO NOBODY REALLY KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WATER FLOW THERE.
AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING BECAUSE I LIVED ON THE ISLAND AND I WAS FLOODED TWICE IN 11 MONTHS, LOST EVERYTHING.
SO I MOVED TO A PLACE WHERE THERE WAS NO WATER NEXT TO ME AND NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE A POND BEHIND ME I'M NOT SURE IS NOT GOING TO FLOOD. I MEAN JUST NOT TOO FAR DOWN FROM US ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WATSON ROAD, THEY HAD A SUBDIVISION THAT FLOODED AND IT'S BEEN YEARS, IT'S FINALLY STARTING TO, YOU ALL HAVE FINALLY STARTED TO FIX THAT PROBLEM WHICH IS A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
SO FLOODING IS A GREAT FEAR OF MINE.
AND MY BACKYARD IS ONLY 18 FEET BEFORE THE END.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE A POND OVER THERE.
I'M CONCERNED WITH THAT. AND THE THIRD THING THAT IS OF CONCERN TO ME IS THE EASEMENT. IF YOU CAN I GUESS RIGHT HERE ON THIS MAP, IT SAYS CONSERVATION AREA AND IT'S CRISSCROSSED AND THERE WAS THIS ONE LITTLE DOCUMENT HERE IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT SAYS GRANTOR HERE VOLUNTARILY GRANTS THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN PERPETUITY.
SO, THAT'S ALL THESE QUESTIONS WERE NOT ADDRESSED.
I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE THOSE DONE BEFORE MAYBE THIS PROJECT IS THANK YOU.
IF I MAY, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT ELEVATION YOUR
>> OKAY. I WILL COME BACK TO THAT WITH THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS MA'AM.
WOULD ANYBODY ELSE -- MS. KLATY. WELCOME BACK.
>> I THINK IT'S ONLY 2:30. I THINK WE'RE HEADING TO 5:00.
IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO LEARN THINGS.
I WOULD SUGGEST. GET RID OF NUMBER FOUR ALTOGETHER. WOW.
THESE ARE NEIGHBORS SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
EITHER DENY THIS MAJOR MODIFICATION OR GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OPTION. CONTINUE IT UNTIL THE DEVELOPER LAWYER MAKES CONTACT WITH CAPTAIN POINT AND VILLAGES OF VALENCIA ASSOCIATIONS. THEY FAILED TO DO WHAT THEY SHOULD DO, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT QUOTE REQUIRED BUT THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BEING EFFECTED. SO I THINK THIS DEVELOPER LAWYER CAN GET UP HERE AND SAY, I DON'T WANT TO DENY.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH THESE PEOPLE AND OBVIOUSLY THESE INDIVIDUALS RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS HAVE GONE TO THE PZA SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
TO ME, THEY'RE EXPERTS. YOU MAY NOT SEE AN EXPERT IN THEM. WHEN THESE PEOPLE BRING UP THESE DOCUMENTS AND READ STUFF. THEY MAY NOT BE LAWYERS BUT KNOW HOW TO READ OR WRITE. DENY OR CONTINUE IT.
IT WOULD BE FAIR NOT ONLY TO THE RESIDENTS BUT ALSO TO THE DEVELOPERS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR CONCERNS ARE WITH THE OUTCOME FOR DOWN THE ROAD FOR ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT
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ARE ALREADY THERE AND EXPECTING THE ONES COMING.2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. ALL THIS TALK OF EXPERTS, THE SUPREME COURT RECOGNIZED ANYBODY THAT LIVES WITHIN 300 FEET OF A PROJECT IS AN EXPERT FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU MS. BADGER. >> HI THERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON. >> MY NAME IS MOD CURRY.
I LIVE AT 441 BEL AIRICS DRIVE. PUT RIGHT ON THE CIRCLE.
YES, SIR. >> BEFORE I GET STARTED, THE ATTORNEY FOR ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP, HE PUT UP A THING.
I THOUGHT I SAW 8 HOUSES IN PHASE FOUR.
IF HE COULD ADDRESS THAT. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S 26.
SO, YEAH, I'M PRETTY MUCH GOING TO GO OVER WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE JUST SAID. BUT, JUST GIVE YOU MY OPINION.
THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT SAYS THIS SHOULD BE THE COUNTY SHALL ENFORCE SAFE CONVENIENT ON SITE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION. SO, THIS IS SELF PORT DRIVE.
THERE IS NO CIRCULATION. IT'S JUST ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. THIS CONTINUES ON TO THE BIGGER SELF POINT BELL HAVEN. IN THE CASE OF DISASTER, TORNADO, HURRICANE. I MEAN, ARE THESE PEOPLE IN PHASE FOUR GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT? I THINK, MY OPINION, IT'S A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN.
SO, THAT'S WHY I WOULD ENCOURAGE VOTING NO ON PHASE FOUR.
MY OTHER POINT IS I KNOW THIS WAS AN APPROVED PUD IN THE EARLY 2,000S OR 1998 OVER WHATEVER IT WAS.
THERE WAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT GIVEN TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT IN 2008. SO, ALL THOSE MAPS THAT WERE REVIEWED FOR THE INITIAL PUD, THEY ARE OUT OF DATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS THIS WETLANDS RIGHT HERE.
AND THEY'RE PROPOSING A BRIDGE, BUILDING A BRIDGE TO GET INTO PHASE FOUR. NOW, IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, IT SAYS, THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS TO ENSURE THE PROPERTY WILL BE RETAINED FOREVER IN THE EXISTING NATURAL CONDITION. AND TO PREVENT ANY USE OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE APPEAR AND INTERFERE WITH THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE PROPERTY. SO I'M NOT SURE, I MEAN,YOU KNOW -- SIR I'M AFRAID THAT'S THE THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TURNING WHAT YOU PUT INTO THE OVER HEAD TO OUR STAFF.
ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 3? ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. BURNETT. FOR STARTERS, DURING YOUR RESPONSE, WOULD YOU TOUCH ON THE ELEVATION OF THE POND AND COMPARE THAT. THE LADY WHO SPOKE SAID HER FIRST ELEVATION WAS MAYBE OVER 20 PLUS.
20 FEET PLUS. >> YEAH, EXCUSE ME, THERE'S ELEVATIONS ON THIS SITE AND THIS IS GOING BY I MAP.
ON THE COUNTY'S IMAPPING SYSTEM. THERE'S ELEVATIONS ON THIS SITE SHOWING AS HIGH AS 40 FEET. IT LOOKS LIKE A LARGE PORTION VARIES FROM 25 FEET TO 35 FEET. IF I CAN GET MY POWER POINT BACK UP THERE. I THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO ALSO EXPLAIN THESE OTHER THINGS. LET ME TOUCH ON A COUPLE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT. I WILL GO THROUGH SLIDES.
AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, THERE'S TWO THINGS IN THERE.
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FIRST LET ME TALK ABOUT ENDANGERED SPECIES.WE HAD LG 2 DO A COMPLETE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT REPORT AND IDENTIFIED NO ENDANGERED SPECIOUS ON THE SITE.
IT'S PART OF OUR PUD TEXT. I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT A FORMAL GOPHER SURVEY WILL BE CONDUCTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PERMITTING FROM FWC AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS.
AND THAT'S HOW YOU HAVE THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
I'M NOT SURE THESE WILL MATCH UP.
JUST ANTICIPATING THE ISSUES. LOOKING AT STORMWATER.
I WILL TALK ABOUT PRE-AND POST. I WILL TALK ABOUT THE ROADWAYS AND FOURTH ISSUE IS TRAFFIC. I HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
LOOKING AT THE STORMWATER PRE-AND POST.
THE BIGGEST THING. THIS TIES INTO THE SECOND THING CURB AND GUTTER. A NUMBER OF THE COMMUNITIES AND A PORTION OF SHORES IS SWALE. AND SO, RESIDENTS ENCOUNTER THAT DIP IN THEIR DRIVEWAY GOING IN AND OUT.
THIS WILL BE CURB AND GUTTER. THE BIG IMPORTANT THING ON HERE AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW IS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR STORMWATER, WE HAVE TO MEASURE WHAT IS ON SITE TODAY AND MAKE SURE THAT EVER DEVELOPMENT THAT POST DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE NOT RUNNING STORMWATER OFF MORE THAN IT CURRENTLY DOES AND WHATEVER DIRECTION AND VOLUME IT CURRENTLY DOES.
WHAT WE AGREED TO DO AND ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT IS THIS POND ISSUE WITH BELL HAVEN, I THINK ONE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT WELL THEY'RE NOT GIVING ANYTHING UP.
THAT POND DOESN'T HAVE APPROVAL TO HAVE THEIR STORMWATER GOING ON TO THE PROPERTY. THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
BUT WHAT WE AGREED THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS, ASSUMING THIS MODIFICATION GETS APPROVED, WE WILL HANDLE THE STORMWATER COMING OFF BELL HAVEN AND THAT'S WHY OUR POND IS SIZED TO ACCUMULATE THE STORMWATER. THE DENSITY ISSUE IS CLEAR.
IT'S A REDUCTION IN DENSITY. TRAFFIC I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT.
THIS IS ONE THAT'S ALWAYS SO IMPORTANT.
I HAVE THE MAP UP HERE. WE'RE AT LINK 117.2.
TO THE NORTH OF US IN THAT LINK 117.2 RUNS IN FRONT OF OUR SITE TO WILD WOOD. THE NEXT LINK, 118 IS FROM WILD WOOD UP TO MOULTRY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THIS WAS FROM THE LAST SPREADSHEET THAT THE COUNTY HAD, YOU LOOKED AT 33377 TRIPS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR ROADWAY SEGMENT OF U.S.
ONE. 118 TO 119, THE IMPORTANT THING, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE ROADWAYS.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GETTING SO FAR NORTH AT 116 OR 117.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY'S MOST RECENT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET, AND WHAT THE TRIP COUNTS ARE, IT'S ACTUALLY AT THE LINK IN FRONT OF OUR SITE ON U.S. 1.
117.2. THE ACTUAL UPDATED TRIP COUNTS ARE 32702. SO APPROXIMATELY 700 FEWER TRIPS THAN WHAT WAS BELIEVED TO BE ON THAT SEGMENT.
THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LINKS, WE'RE SITTING IN THE AREA ON THE SPREADSHEET, IF YOU GO SIX LINKS ABOVE UP AND BELOW US ON THE SPREADSHEET, THEY'RE ALL OKAY.
NOT A ONE OF THOSE LINKS IS CRITICAL.
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NOT A ONE OF THOSE LINKS IS DEFICIENT.THEY'RE ALL OKAY. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT PART OF THE COUNTY IN WHAT WE'RE USED TO DEALING WITH WHAT TOOK A LARGE PART OF YOUR DAY. YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE LEVEL OF TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. AND THE MOST RECENT SPREADSHEET SHOWS IT'S NOT A DEFICIENT LINK AND THE SERVICE VOLUME WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AT THE FIVE TO 600 UNIT RANGE BEFORE IT GETS TRIPS.
OUR TRIPS ARE NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE NEAR THAT I WOULD THINK. TOUCHED ON THE CONDOMINIUM ISSUE. I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN ISSUES I HAD TO COMMENT ON. IT'S A REDUCTION OF ABOUT 12 LOTS OVER WHAT IS THERE FOR PHASE THREE AND 4.
THERE ARE MDP MAPS ON. THE ZONES HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
IT'S AGAIN, 2030 YEARS PRETTY WELL KNOWN THAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THIS WAY. THE ROADWAY GOES BACK AND DEAD ENDS. EVEN WITH THAT , YOU HAVE A 25-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER TO THE OTHER ONES ON THE NORTH AND EAST. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY I HEARD THE COMMENT ABOUT CONCERN FOR THE POND AND WHAT GOES ON WITH THE POND. THIS POND AND I THINK IT'S THIS POND THAT'S IN THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE SITE.
I TELL MY CLIENTS THIS BECAUSE WE DO HOA LAW AT MY FIRM AS WELL. AND I TELL MY CLIENTS THERE'S CASE LAW OUT THEIR FOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT IF YOU KNOW OF A DANGEROUS ANIMAL THAT IS FREQUENTING TO YOUR PROPERTY. YOU EITHER HAVE TO RELOCATE IT, GET RID OF IT OR POST SIGNAGE OR FENCE IT OR GIVE THE PUBLIC SOME OTHER PROTECTION. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE THAT COMES UP SO MUCH IN FLORIDA IS ALLIGATORS.
THERE'S CASE LAW REGARDING NUISANCE TO ALLIGATORS AND IF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION KNOWS ABOUT IT.
THIS IS A PROJECT WITHIN A MASTER ASSOCIATION.
SO WHILE WE'RE DEALING WITH PHASE THREE AND FOUR, IT'S ALL SOUTH WOOD. FOR KB TO BE DOING THIS AND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THEY MET WITH THE MASTER ASSOCIATION TO GET THEIR SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AND GET THEIR APPROVAL. SHOWED THEM HOME PLANS AND DESIGNS AND ELEVATIONS. OBVIOUSLY WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE TWO PLAYERS WITH A CHECK AND BALANCE. I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING OF MINOR CONCERN.
IN A MODERN PUD, WE WILL HAVE THAT LEVEL OF OVER SIGHT FOR THE PROJECT IN GENERAL. SO.
WITH THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> MR. BURNETT. UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD.
I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE WAS DANNEROUS ANIMALS.
I THINK IT WAS FLOODING CONCERNS ADJACENT TO THE POND.
I ASKED HER AND SHE SAID HER ELEVATION WAS ROUGHLY OVER 20 FEET PLUS. I THINK THAT SOUNDS PRETTY SAFE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE BLUE LINE DRAWINGS OR WATER MANAGEMENT BLUE LINE SHOWING WHAT THE ELEVATION OF THE BERM IS AND WHAT THE POP OFF IS. I ASSUME THIS GOES TO RECEIVING WATER BODY THAT'S ULTIMATELY TIDALLY CONNECTED.
>> I GUESS THE TWO THINGS I WOULD HAVE IN RESPONSE TO THAT, I GUESS TO SHARE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS THE OWNER OBVIOUSLY ALLOW THE PUD TO EXPIRE.
THE OWNER OF THE LAND. THEY DO HAVE A WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT WE'RE WORKING ON UPDATING.
WE HAVE INCREASED THE SIZE OF THE PONDS.
IF I GO BACK TO, YOU CAN SEE THE EFFORT THAT KB HAS DONE AT THIS STAGE, IF I LAY THE TWO MDP MAPS UP HERE.
GIVE ME ONE MORE MINUTE. YOU CAN SEE A VERY SIMILAR LAYOUT OF THE ENTRY ROAD COMING UP WHERE YOU SEE WETLAND IMPACTS. THEY AS WELL DESIGNED THIS PROJECT TO ACCOMMODATE MORE STORMWATER THAN PREVIOUSLY.
YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AREA WHICH -- YOU CAN SEE LOTS, SMALL POND MATCHING UP TO THE CONSERVATION AREA OVER HERE, YOU DON'T SEE THE STORMWATER POND IN THIS VERSION IN THE NEWER VERSION.
YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER STORMWATER POND CENTRAL TO THE SITE. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A POND,
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HERE A FOURTH POND. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT LAYOUT BUT DOES HANDLE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE STORMWATER IN THE ENGINEERS WHO WORKED ON THIS. MATTHEW'S DESIGN GROUP.>> YES, SIR. DOUG, OR LEGAL, WAS THE PROPER
NOTIFICATIONS MAILED OUT? >> YES, SIR.
THEY WERE. ONE WOMAN SPOKE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS ORDINANCE AND NOTIFICATIONS GO OUT TO THOSE ASSOCIATIONS OR PERSONS THAT REGISTER WITH THE COUNTY. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THOSE HOAS WERE NOT REGISTERED TO RECEIVE THOSE NOTICES.
>> OKAY. AND IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU MAKE SURE YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS REGISTERED.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE NOT. ALSO MS. TAYLOR YOUR QUESTION ON THE EXIT. ASSOCIATION OR SOUTH WOOD ERS - HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. IT'S UP TO U.S. 1, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAINTING AND STRIPING EVEN THOUGH THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT GETS DONE DURING THIS PROJECT ON THE WAY OUT. AND THEN THE ROADS WILL BE
INTERNAL TO OUR SITE. MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT IN THE PUD TEXT. AND -- I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD.
OTHER THAN I WOULD MAKE THE STATEMENT BOBCATS ARE NOT CONSIDERED AN ENDANGERED SPECIES.
SO JUST EVERYBODY KNOWS. IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU JEREMIAH.
>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. SO I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS. WE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT HAD CONCERNS AND FELT THEY HAD NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER YOURSELF AND MR. MICHAEL. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
>> THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE INSIDE OF AN EXISTING PUD. WE MET WITH THE MASTER ASSOCIATION AND BELL HAVEN. I THINK THEY'RE OUTSIDE, WOULD HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE OF OUR SAME ASSOCIATION.
WE DIDN'T GET NOTICE OF ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTED TO HAVE A MEETING. IT WASN'T IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR AND DIDN'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAD PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY HEARING AND WHAT WENT ON THERE. I DIDN'T GET FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE THAT WE NEEDED TO FOLLOW UP WITH TO TRY AND REACH A COMPROMISE.
AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE TRY TO DO THAT.
ESPECIALLY WITH THIS CLIENT, KB HOME, THEY BEND OVER BACKWARDS.
FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT. WE DID COMPLY AND WE DIDN'T
REACH OUT THIS EVERYWHERE. >> DOUG THAT'S WHY I BRING IT UP. I UNDERSTAND THE WORK Y'ALL PUT INTO THE PROJECT. MY CONCERN IS.
I'M NOT HEARING THE RESIDENTS SAY WE DON'T WANT GROWTH OR STOP IT. WHAT A COUPLE SAID AND I WAS MAKING NOTES. A COUPLE MENTIONED THEY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO TALK THROUGH THE PROJECT AND LET THEIR CONCERNS HEARD. I'M NOT SAYING YOU WERE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO DO THAT. I JUST WANTED TO GET YOU A RESPONSE. THIS IS NOT A GROUP SAYING YOU'RE DESTROYING THE AREA. I WAS SURPRISED AND WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
>> THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, IF I KNEW WHO TO MEET TO AND THERE WAS A CONCERN BEFORE, WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT. I APOLOGIZE NOT HAVING A BETTER
MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU HEARD A RESIDENT SORT OF OBJECT TO THE FACT THERE WAS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUT.
DURING OUR DISCUSSION, YOU SAID YOU HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DO INTERCONNECTIVITY BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND DIDN'T WANT THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I REMEMBER
>> THE CHALLENGE WE RUN INTO IF WE DO INTERCONNECTIVITY AND IT'S FROZEN, THE POWER POINT. IF WE DO INTERCONNECTIVITY.
YOU HAVE THE EXISTING SOUTH WOOD RESIDENTS, THE EXISTING BELL HAVEN RESIDENTS NOW WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THE SHORES. IT MAKES SENSE.
IT WOULD BE A GOOD CUT THROUGH. AND VICE VERSA.
HERE WE GO. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS DEL MORRA. THIS IS PRAD ERA.
YOU POTENTIALLY HAVE FOLKS ON THE SAME ROAD.
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YOU POTENTIALLY HAVE PEOPLE COMING DOWN THROUGH HERE.ANY NUMBER OF STREETS TO COME DOWN HERE TO GET TO DELMORRA OR COME THROUGH LILLY ROAD OR YOU KNOW THROUGH HERE.
TO POTENTIALLY COME THROUGH IN AND OUT.
VICE VERSA. THE CUT THROUGH BACK IN.
SO, AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENTS AT DELMORRA AND LILLY AND SOUTH WOOD AND BELL HAVEN'S BOARD DON'T WANT THE INTERCONNECTIVITY. WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ARGUMENT. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A WAIVER.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NOT PUSHED THAT ISSUE FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY. THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT HAVE THIS KIND OF NUMBER OF UNITS. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK AND DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF CHALLENGE AT THIS SITE. BUT YEAH, THE ONE IN, ONE OUT DID SEEM LIKE IT WAS FINE FOR THIS LOCATION.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU MR. BURNETT.
WOULD IT BE BETTER FOR THE BOARD MR. BLOCKER AND ANYBODY ELSE IF WE WENT ON LET THEM MEET REAL QUICK WITH THE GROUP THAT'S HERE? WOULD EVERYBODY FEEL MORE
COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? >> I WOULD.
I'M FINE WITH THAT. IF WE CAN USE THE CONFERENCE
ROOM, MAYBE I CAN MEET IN THERE. >> WE COULD GO TO FIVE EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE THICKEST AND MAYBE THE QUICKEST.
IT'S A LOT OF STUFF. WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT COUPLE
ITEMS AND COME BACK. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IN 10, 15 MINUTES IF YOU CAN RESOLVE.
I THINK THAT'S WORTH AN EFFORT. AT LEAST THEY CAN MEET.
>> WE HAVE TIME. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS THAT WILL GENERATE DISCUSSION I THINK.
[5. Second Reading of Amendments to Utility Ordinances; Adoption of Utility Rate Tariff; and Adoption of Updated Utility Standards Manual. ]
IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? WE WILL TEMPORARILY TAKE A PASS ON ITEM 3. I WILL SAY I DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS EX PARTE ON THE BACON STORAGE.>> THIS WAS CONTINUED. YOU HAVE TO DO EX PARTE BEFORE
IT'S DECIDED ON ITS MERITS. >> WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EGREGEOUSLY WRONG. WE WILL GO TO 5.
UTILITY DIRECTOR. I WILL GO QUICK THROUGH THIS.
THERE IS A PRESENTATION AND ONLY ONE SLIDE.
WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR APPROVAL OF OUR UTILITY ORDINANCE REVISIONS. THIS IS OUR SECOND READING.
WE DID A FAIRLY LARGE PRESENTATION LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. THE UTILITY ORDINANCE WE'RE LOOKING TO UPDATE IT FOR I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK SUMMARY.
WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE TO MEET THE REGULATOR YOU REQUIREMENTED THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED SINCE THE LAST TIME IT WAS UPDATED.
WE HAVE TO BUILD INTO OUR ORDINANCES.
WE'RE ADDING LANGUAGE TO CONSTRUCT AND MANAGE THE REUSE GRID WHICH WE HEARD ABOUT ALL ABOUT THE WATER QUANTITY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH DRINKING WATER OR REUSE GRID THAT WORKS WELL. THAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE.
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE'RE DOING IS MOVING RATE TABLE FROM THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT NEVER GETS UPDATED.
SO THIS WAY THE RATE TABLE WILL BE UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
SO YOU WILL HAVE TO ADOPT THE RATE TABLE BY RESOLUTION.
WHICH IS ONE OF MOTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING RATES EXCEPT THE ONES I TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND AND THE LAST THING IS THERE'S REFERENCES, IT'S UP THERE, GOOD. THERE'S REFERENCES TO THE UTILITY STANDARDS MANUAL AND THE ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE STANDARDS MANUAL TOO.
THAT'S BY RESOLUTION. THAT'S IN THE RECOMMENDED MOTIONS. THE UPDATES WITH STANDARDS AND CONSTRUCTION METHODOLOGY AND FLEXIBILITY THAT HAVE COME ACROSS. IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE WE UPDATED THE MANUAL. WE NEED TO GET THAT UPDATED AND THE LAST THING THAT WE ARE ASKING IS, WE FINISHED A STUDY ON UNIT CONNECTION FEES. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES AND SCHOOL IMPACT FEES.
UTILITY FEES ARE NOT IMPACT FEES.
CUSTOMER PAY IN THEIR RATES WHEN THEY COME IN LATER, THEY BUY IN
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AND THE CONNECTION FEES AND WE RECOMMEND AN INCREASE TO COVER THE COSTS WE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.ONE IN WASTEWATER AND WE'RE ASKING FOR $750 IN WATER WASTE CONNECTION FEES AND ONE IS $250 IN REUSE FEES.
INCLUDES THE FUNDS TO EXPAND THE REUSE SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS GOOD IRRIGATION WATER AND NOT USING THE GOOD DRINKING WATER TO DO THAT WITH. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN GO ON FOR HOURS. THERE'S A COUPLE MOTIONS.
WE RECOMMEND AND I WILL LAT Y'ALL WORK THROUGH THEM.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR COLLIN? GOOD?
AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 5. ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT, NOW IS THE TIME. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE
PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 5. >> OKAY.
I GUESS THAT -- TAKES US TO THE MOTIONS.
ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM 5? MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE HAPPY TO MOVE THESE.
MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022- >> 37.
>> THE AMENDED RESTATED CONSOLIDATED AND SUPPLEMENTAL
ST. JOHNS UTILITY ORDINANCE. >> SECOND.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> ALSO MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTON 2022-
>> 165. >> APPROVING THE ADOPTION OF THE UPDATED ST. JOHNS UTILITY WASTEWATER AND
THAT PASSES 5-0. >> I WILL ALSO MOVE TO ADOPT
>> APPROVING THE ADOPTION OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY UTILITY RATE TARIFF ESTABLISHING A SCHEDULE OF RATES, DEPOSITS, CHARGES FEES AND COSTS FOR THE USE OR AVAILABILITY OF WATER, REUSE AND
WASTEWATER SERVICES. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
[6. Establishment of the temporary Amphitheatre & Concert Hall Advisory Committee; Adoption of By-Laws, and Confirmation of Commissioner Appointments]
THAT PASSES 5-0. ALSO MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO AASSEMBLE A FINANCE TEAM TO ASSEMBLE UTILITY BONDS TO FUNDTHE UTILITY CAPITAL >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
>> ALL RIGHT. NOW I'M GOING TO ITEM 6 AND BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, I WANT TO JUST THANK EVERYONE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS FOR MAKING THEIR APPOINTMENTS TO THE ADVISORY BOARD. I AM PUMPED UP AND EXCITED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS NOMINATED.
IT'S OBVIOUS YOU GAVE THIS GOOD THOUGHT.
WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT FIVE-MEMBER ADVISORY BOARD.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS BOARD AND A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD, FOUR TO SIX MONTHS AT MAX COMING UP WITH A SORT OF REVIEW AND ANY SUGGESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE ON THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY AND EFFICACY OF THE OPERATION OF THE AMPHITHEATER.
IT'S ONE OF OUR JEWELS, I THINK, IN THE COUNTY AS FAR AS WHAT IT DOES IN THE WAY OF CONCERTS AND ALSO WITH CONCERT HALL IN PONTE VEDRA AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT EXPANSION.
ANY THOUGHTS THEY HAVE ON THAT TOO.
WE HAVE THE BY LAW SAYS TO ADDRESS.
I BELIEVE, MELISSA. DO WE APPROVE THOSE BY LAWS?
>> COMMISSIONERS, MELISSA LINDQUIST, ASSISTANT TO YOU BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU ASKED APRIL 19TH MEETING TO HAVE THIS ADVISORY BOARD COME FORWARD.
WE NAMED THIS AMPHITHEATER AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS TO ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE AND ADOPT THE BY LAWS AND APPOINT THE FIVE MEMBERS WHICH THAT'S IN THE PACKET.
I DID REACH OUT TO EACH MEMBER BECAUSE WE HAD A QUICK TURN AROUND THE WAY OUR AGENDA IS PROCESSED AND YOU SHOULD HAVE
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RECEIVED EACH APPLICATION VIA RED FOLDER FROM THE MEMBERS YOU SELECTED. THE RESOLUTION AND BY LAWS I DRAFTED WITH MR. ALEX TAYLOR AND WE ARE OPEN TO CHANGES YOU HAVE TO THE RESOLUTION OR THE BY LAWS AND THERE ARE ALSO MOTIONS FOR EACH MEMBER TO BE APPOINTED AS YOU EACH HAVE SELECTED.SO, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE OR MR. TAYLOR OR ANY OF THE STAFF THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THIS
IN DISCUSSION WITH STAFF, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE THE APPOINTMENTS WITH ONE VOTE AND MOTION.
NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, I ALSO WHILE WE'RE ON THIS SUBJECT, I WANTED TO MENTION AND GET A CONSENSUS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REVISIT THIS AS POSSIBLE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME LIMITED STAFF PARTICIPATION, GABE IS AN OBVIOUS KEY MAN TO BE AVAILABLE TO WORK WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD AND I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST POSSIBLY SOMEONE FROM JESSE DUN'S STAFF, BRAD OR JOY, TO ASSIST WITH RESPECT TO ANY BUDGET COUNTY BUDGET QUESTIONS OR ISSUES.
AND ALSO UNDER THE BY LAWS, THE FIVE-MEMBER ADVISORY BOARD VOTES TO APOINT THEIR OWN CHAIRMAN. WE DON'T DO THAT.
AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY I DO THAT.
THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE BY LAWS.
IS THAT DIRECT, DAVID? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
WITH THAT SAID, PAUL, YOU -- >> YES, SIR, I WONDERED IF WE
WANT TERA MEEKS TO BE INVOLVED. >> YES, TARA, JESSE AND GABE OUR THREE EXPERTS IN THE SUBJECT AREAS.
>> SO COMMISSIONERS -- >> ANYTHING ELSE, JEREMIAH.
>> YES, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE VOLUNTEERS FOR VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS. THIS IS SUCH AN IMPRESSIVE GROUP OF COMMUNITY LEADERS. I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSINESS SCHEDULES TO PARTICIPATE.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME AND DEVOTING YOUR ENERGIES AND YOUR TALENTS TO MAKING THIS A BETTER PROCESS FOR OUR COUNTY.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN FOR YOUR VISION IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
>> YES, SIR. I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> YEAH. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 6. ANY WISHING TO MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE
PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 6. >> BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION, I WOULD TO RECOGNIZE JERRY WILSON AND DYLAN RUMREL TO SIT THROUGH A LENGTHY DAY TO ARRIVE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
I KNOW YOU WILL DO GREAT WORK AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERISM AND YOUR EXCITEMENT AND CREATIVITY YOU BRING TO THE
MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022- >> 167.
>> APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE AMPHITHEATER AND CONCERT HALL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ADOPTION
[Items 7 & 8]
MOTION TO APPOINT IRVING CASS, BETHANY -- CONCERT HALL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR 2 YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE MAY 17TH,>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
THAT PASSES 5-0. THANKS, GUYS.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE ALSO MY AGENDA ITEMS. HOWEVER IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL MS. JO ANNE SPENCER FORWARD FROM OUR OFFICE AS SHE HAS PUT THESE TWO PACKETS TOGETHER AND GOING FORWARD SHE WILL BE THE ONE PRESENTING THESE ITEMS TO YOU.
>> REALLY? >> NOW THIS IS JO ANNE'S MAIDEN
FLIGHT, ISN'T IT? >> YES IT IS.
I'M GOING TO BE SITTING IN THE WINGS IN CASE ANY QUESTIONS
ARISE. >> I HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE
JOANNE WILL DO A SUPERB JOB. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
JO ANNE SPENCER, ASSISTANT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I WILL PRESENT AGENDA ITEM 7 AND 8. THE FIRST IS APPOINTMENTS TO AHAC. THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES.
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ONE IS DUE TO A RESIGNATION, THE SECOND VACANCY IS DUE TO THE EXPIRED TERM. THE VACANCIES WERE ADVERTISED IN AUGUST AND OCTOBER OF 2021 AND MARCH OF 2022.THE VACANCIES ARE TO BE FILLED BY CITIZENS ONE REPRESENTING AREAS OF LABOR ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING AND THE OTHER A CITIZEN REPORTING ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL.
ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION IS A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND FOUR APPLICATIONS. NOTE THE RECOMMENDATION IS A SUGGESTED MOTION AND IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THE BOARD
>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 7. ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT
PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE
PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 7. >> IS THERE A MOTION ON 7?
>> YOU WANT ME TO MAKE IT? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE TO REAPPOINT ALEXANDER MANSUR AS THE CITIZEN REPRESENTING AREAS OF LABOR ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOME BUILDING FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM TO EXPIRE MAY 2027.
>> SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. >> THAT PASSES 5-0.
>> LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION TO APPOINT LINDSEY RODIA FOR A
TERM TO EXPIRE MARCH 16, 2025. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
THAT PASSES 5-0. THAT TAKES US TO NUMBER 8 I BELIEVE. AND NUMBER 8 IS THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD. STILL GOING TO BE ME.
YES, ITEM 8 IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS. THREE VACANCIES ARE ON THE BOARD DUE TO EXPIRED TERMS. TWO VACANCIES FOR REGULAR MEMBERS. ONE FOR ALTERNATIVE MEMBER POSITION. VACANCIES WERE ADVERTISED IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER OF 2021. QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRE APPLANTS WITH KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IN THE TECHNICAL FIELDS AND GENERAL PUBLIC. SEE THE APPROVED MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 18, 2021, MEETING OF THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF THE ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THREE APPLICATIONS. NOTE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS AND A SUGGESTED MOTION.
IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE TO DECIDE.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 8.
ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION ON 8?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL MOVE THIS.
MOTION TO REAPPOINT BILL LENNY AS A REGULAR MANAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD AND ADJUSTMENT APPEALS FOR A FULL
TERM TO EXPIRE MAY 17, 2026. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
THAT PASSES 5-0. MOTION TO MOVE ROBERT BLOOD FROM ALTERNATE MEMBER TO REGULAR MEMBER FOR A FULL FOUR YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE MAY 17, 2026.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 5-0.
AND MOTION TO APPOINT THOMAS WALSH AS ALTERNATE TERM FOR A FULL FOUR YEAR TERM TO EXPIRE MAY 17,
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.
THAT TAKES US TO WE ADDED AN ITEM 9.
DAVID, ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THAT? BRACEY POINT BRIDGE. JAMIE LOCKLEAR, ST. JOHNS PURCHASING. ITEM 9 WAS ADDED DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS TO AWARD THE PROJECT.
THERE'S A DOT REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT AND REQUESTED A TIME FRAME TO GET CONTRACTS EXECUTED WE EXPEDITED THIS.
WE PUT THIS OUT FOR POLICY. THE LOW BID WAS FROM DB CIVIL CONSTRUCTION. AND THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN CURRENT COUNTY BUDGETS AND WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR GREG CALDWELL HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
STANDARD PRACTICE AND PROCESS. IT WAS JUST TIMING THAT PUT US
ON A RED FOLDER ITEM. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? PUBLIC COMMENT.
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>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 9. THE RACY BRIDGE FUNDING.
SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
AGENDA ITEM NINE. >> IS THERE A MOTION?
>> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
>> AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE TO AWARD BID NUMBER 22-76 COUNTY ROAD 13 BRACEY POINT BRIDGE NUMBER 784040 APPROACH SLAB REPAIR TO DB CIVIL CONSTRUCTION LLC AS THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, PROVIDED NO BID PROTEST IS RECEIVED AND TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM AND FORMAT AS ATTACHED FOR COMPLETION OF THE WORK IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BID DOCUMENTS IN A LUMP SUM PRICE OF $885,330.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
PLEASE VOTE. >> AND THAT PASSES 5-0.
AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM OUR FRIENDS IN THE SHORES. I GUESS THEY'RE STILL HAVING DISCUSSIONS IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
I SUGGEST WE MIGHT WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO COMMISSIONER REPORTS WHILE SOMEONE MAYBE CHRISTINE MIGHT CHECK TO SEE
WAT'S GOING ON. >> GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? >> WE PASSED THE AMPHITHEATER BOARD. I WONDERED IN JERRY WILSON WOULDN'T LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT HIS VISION IS ABOUT THE
BOARD. >> I KNOW THIS IS OUT OF ORDER AND YOU'RE WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS TO SHOOT THAT DOWN.
>> I LIKE THAT. HE CAME OUT AND LOOKS SO SHARP
IN HIS SUIT. >> JERRY IS SORTS OF BASHFUL AND AN INTROVERT. WE WILL HAVE TO DRAG IT OUT OF HIM. > I WAS NOT PREPARED AND HAPPY TO BE THE QUICKEST AGENDA ITEM. FIRST IT'S AN HONOR.
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS TO BE APPOINTED TO THIS IMPORTANT ADVISORY GROUP. I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TO FIND AN INTERESTING WAY TO BUILD ON THE SUCCESS THAT'S OCCURRED IN THIS ST. JOHNS COUNTY CULTURAL EVENTS DIVISION FOR SO MANY YEARS.
WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE GABRIEL PELLESIER TWO LEARNED AN INTERESTING PROCESS TO ATTRACT SOME OF THE MOST AUTHENTIC TALENT OF ALL TIMES TO THE PONTE VEDRA CONCERT HALL AND THE ST.
AUGUSTINE CONCERT CENTER. WHAT I NOTICED ON THE LAST FEW YEARS ON THE BOARD OF THE FRONT ENDS OF PONTE VEDRA BOARD IS HOW THEY DO IT. IT'S NOT THE WHAT, IT'S THE HOW.
THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY TO CUSTOMIZE THE OFFERING OF THE BOTH VENUES SO THAT ARTISTS LIKE BILLY STRINGS CHOOSE TO PLAY THREE CONCERTS IN A ROW TO OVER 10,000 PEOPLE BECAUSE THE CULTURE EVENTS DIVISION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY UNDERSTANDS THEIR ARTISTIC NEEDS MORE THAN OTHERS. ESPECIALLY LIVE NATION AND MANY ARE COMPETITORS. IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO HAVING A WASHER AND A DRYER IN THE GREEN ROOM AT THE PONTE VEDRA CONCERT HALL SO THE PEOPLE OUT OF A BUS CAN HAVE THEIR CLOTHES WASHED AND TAKEN CARE AND ALL THE WAY TO HOW A STAGE IS SET.
I HAVE BECOME A REAL FAN OF YOUR TEAM.
YOUR TEAM IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND WHAT THEY DO.
THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
I'M JUST A MEMBER OF THE WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE - THESE TWO VENUES, TO HAVE SEEING OUT LOUD, THE FORT MOSAY AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM TO TAKE OFF IN YEARS TO COME.
ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS A BRAND IS UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO DELIVER THIS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY.
THIS IS A BRAND THAT'S ALL ABOUT BEING AUTHENTIC AND REAL AND HAVING QUALITY LIFESTYLE THAT MEETS WITH PEOPLE THAT COME FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. SO THIS IS, IT'S EASY TO THINK OF THIS AS AN ECONOMIC PROJECT. BUT IT'S REALLY MORE OF A ST.
JOHNS COUNTY QUALITY OF LIFE CULTURAL EVENTS OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, TO SEE WHAT IS WORKING FANTASTIC AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER OVER TIME.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS JOURNEY WILL TAKE US.
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I'M EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT AND TO LEARN OUR WAY INTO THIS AND TO SEE WHERE WE GO. BUT I KNOW ONE THING, WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE WHAT THIS COMMISSION OVER MANY YEARS HAS DONE RIGHT. AND THAT IS A GREAT CONCERT HALL INDOORS AND THE NUMBER TWO RANKED AMPHITHEATER IN THE UNITED STATES OUTDOORS. ONLY TO RED ROCKS.SO I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I WISH I HAD BETTER REMARKS PREPARED TO SHARE WITH YOU.
SO, WITH THAT, I WILL GIVE IT MY BEST EFFORT.
I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER FOR SUGGESTING ME AS AN APPOINTEE AND I WANT TO THANK CHAIR DEAN AND THE ENTIRE BOARD OF COMMISSION FOR HAVING THE ENERGY AND FORESIGHT TO EVEN BRING THIS UP AS A COMMUNITY IDEA.
SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JERRY.
THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR VOLUNTEERISM REALLY A LOT. I DO.
YOU DO GREAT WORK. WE COULD GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
[Public Comment ]
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE'S ANY WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO GET A SIGN FROM CHRISTINE. MR. CHAIR, THE PARTIES NEED TAKEN TO 15 MINUTES. MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND COMMISSIONERS REPORTS.WE WILL KEEP ROLLING. IF WE CAN MEET THAT TIME TABLE, IT MIGHT COME UP LIKE SYRUP AND BISCUITS.
JUST EQUAL. YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN OUT OF ONE
OR THE OTHER. >> AT THIS TIME, EACH PERSON WILL BE PROVIDED WITH THREE-MINUTE AND SHALL COMPLY WITH THE BOARD AND QUORUM.
IF YOU HAVE MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THAT TO THE STAFF AND THE CLERK WILL ADD IT INTO PUBLIC RECORD.
YES MA'AM? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES, MY NAME IS DEBBIE AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE E GREENWAY ALLIANCE. WE WILL A WHARF CALLED MICHAEL'S WHARF AND WE EXPRESSED AND HAVE APPROACHED THE COUNTY TO TURN THE ASSET OVER TO THE COUNTY AS A PARKS AND ASSET. I AM HERE TO ASK YOU ALL TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT ON THAT.
I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN AN INSPECTION OF THE WHARF.
THE COMMUNITY HAS EMBRACED IT AND PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE FISHING AND PICNICKING AND WATCHING BOATS.
IT'S BEEN PRETTY PEACEFUL AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY TROUBLE.
>> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: WHILE WE ARE SITTING HERE WAITING, DEB, CAN THE STAFF AND MAYBE JEREMIAH, I KNOW DEB CALLED ME A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THIS SORT OF FELL OFF MY RADAR BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS PROBABLY A REASONABLE REQUEST BECAUSE THE 501(C)(3) HAS BEEN DISSOLVED.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE I THINK FOR THE COUNTY TAKING OVER THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT.
HUNTER, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS?
>> NO SIR. NOT THIS AFTERNOON.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THE COUNTY TAKING OVER THE WHARF IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE AN AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU NEED TO HAVE A FULL STAFF PRESENTATION AND THE STAFF IS NOT HERE ALREADY TO PRESENT TO THAT PEERED WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR FULL DISCUSSION THERE ARE SOME CONFLICTING OPINIONS BETWEEN MS. CHAPIN AND STAFF AND THE LONG-TERM COST. WHERE IS STARTED, HOW IT STARTED AND WHERE IT WAS GIVEN IN THE COUNTY TAKING IT BACK NOW.I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF IS HERE AND PREPARED TO RESPOND
TODAY. >> LET ME ASK COMMISSIONER
JEREMIAH R. BLOCKER. >> YES I HAVE TALKED TO MS. CHAPIN ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH. THIS IS NOT MY DISTRICT BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER THIS PARCEL. I THINK IT SERVES A GREAT PURPOSE IN PALM VALLEY. I'VE TAKEN MY CHILDREN EITHER AND I THINK OTHER FAMILIES DO AS WELL.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER AND CREATING THIS INCREDIBLE AREA THROUGH A NONPROFIT.
THEY DID NOT GET ANY SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY AT THE TIME.
IT IS NOT A CRITICISM OF THE COUNTY IS JUST PRIVATE CITIZENS MAKING AN EFFORT TO CREATE TRANQUILITY AND A BEAUTIFUL AREA. I AM ONE COMMISSIONER AND I THINK AS A BOARD WE HAVE TO EVALUATE IT BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME CONFLICTING THINGS AND WE NEED TO WORK THAT OUT.
AND TWO THINGS HAVE COME UP. THE STRUCTURAL IMPLICATIONS OF IT AND I WOULD SAY THERE IS A WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMITTING THAT WENT INTO IT AT SOME POINT.
MISS CHAPIN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG ON THAT.
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I THINK IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT. I THINK WE NEED TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD QUICKLY ONLY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME BIGGERIMPLICATIONS. >> SPEAKER: THROUGH COVID OUR ENTITY DISSOLVES PEOPLE BEING RELOCATED AND HE GREENWAY INITIATIVE DOES NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN OUR AREA.
OF COURSE DID GET THE ARMY CORE IN THE DEP AND THE COUNTY AND ALL OF THE RIGHT PERMIT. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE AND IT MADE IT A LOT SAFER THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
>> COMMISSIONER: YES. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL WHARF THAT OVERLOOKS THE PALM VALLEY. THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC SPACE THERE TO DO THAT IN THAT AREA. THIS IS A GREAT AREA.
IT ABSOLUTELY WARNS US AS A BOARD FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT OVER AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT COSTS BUT I SUPPORT IT AND AS ONE COMMISSIONER IT'S MY DISTRICT I TAKE IT WOULD BE A GREAT PUBLIC SERVICE TO TAKE
THIS ON. >> I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT TO MAKE AND MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE TURNED IT OVER TO A PRIVATE ENTITY I'M NOT SURE IF WE COULD GUARANTEE THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT AS THEY CURRENTLY DO.
I AM NOT SURE. >> COMMISSIONER: I'M SUGGESTING THATNG THAT WE AS THE COUNTY TAKE IT OVER NOT A PUBLIC ENTITY. JUST TO BE SURE.
>> CHAIR: LET ME ASK FOR A CONSENSUS.
SHOULD BE ASKED THE STAFF TO PREPARE AN AGENDA ITEM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO THE WHARF, THE DOCK IN PALM VALLEY AND BRING IT BACK IN A REASONABLY SHORT TIME PERIOD TO GIVE MS. CHAPEN AN ANSWER?
>> COMMISSIONER: YES.> CHAIR: OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT
THUMBS UP. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE FOR COMMENT?
>> SPEAKER: GENERAL COMMENT, YES SIR, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT: GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS I WILL BE PROVIDING A HARD COPY OF MY TESTIMONY AFTERWARDS.
I AM DOCTOR PAVLOV SKI AND I RESIDE AT.
SERVICE. MY PAST PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCES WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY AND BEING PREPARED FOR OUR NEXT DISASTER. I'VE SAT IN YOUR HEARINGS AND A FURTIVE REQUEST FOR FUNDING FROM MANY COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. I WANT TO FOCUS ON SEVERAL PRIORITIES TODAY THAT YOU NEED TO ADDRESS FROM MY PAST PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT. I HAVE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A VERY TALENTED AND EXPERIENCED INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND IS RAISING HIS FAMILY HERE. THAT PERSON IS YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I HAVE HEARD HIM SPEAK BEFORE YOU AND I KNOW PERSONALLY THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPROVING THE COUNTY FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WITH AN UPDATED ENTERPRISE SYSTEM OR DISASTER AND EVERYDAY RESPONSE.
WHY? I SERVED AS THE DESIGNATED.
[BLEEP] DEE LIAISON FOR BOTH THE NEW YORK STATE GOVERNOR AND THE NEW YORK CITY MAYOR ARE BOTH HURRICANES IRENE AND HURRICANE SANDY. I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND SO DOES YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I HAVE WITNESSED WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OTHER DISASTERS.
I HAVE HEARD YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO IMPLORE YOU TO APPROVE FUNDING FOR AN ENTERPRISE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND CURRENTLY IS IN LIMBO AS I UNDERSTAND.
I'VE NOT SEEN YOU TAKE ACTION ON THIS REQUEST TO DATE.
YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST FUNDS IN THE PAST BECAUSE YOU LACKED SUCH AN ENTERPRISE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE RESPONDED BY PAPER FOR THE MOST PART AND IT HAS BEEN A LOSING PROPOSITION IN THE PAST AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN THE FUTURE UNLESS THIS RISK IS FIXED.
IT IS A RISK. I HAVE SEEN COMMUNITIES ON DIVERSE DISASTERS TO CERTAIN ASPECTS OF REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE THEY LACKED A PROPER ENTERPRISE AND ACCOUNTING SYSTEM. FOR THE STANDPOINT, FOR MY PERSPECTIVE PRIORITY NUMBER 1 NEED TO SUPPORT AND APPROVE FUNDING FOR AN ENTERPRISE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IDENTIFIED BY YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS NOW BEFORE THE HURRICANE SEASON STARTS.
WHY WOULD HE NUMBER 2, I PERSONALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE SALES TAX WILL PASS SO, WHAT IS THE GAME PLAN AND RESERVE? I HAVE HEARD OF AND NO GAME PLAN FROM YOU BUT I HAVE A SUGGESTION.
WE MUST FIRST PRIORITIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET. CONGRESSMAN RUTHERFORD WHO IS ON THE HOMELAND SECURITY AND CONGRESSMAN WALSH WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR PASSING THE NATION'S OLDEST PORT NATIONAL
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HERITAGE ACT ABOUT $144 MILLION.WE CAN VOTE UPON THAT SUPPLEMENTAL LEGISLATION THAT FOCUSES ON THE REQUIREMENT TO PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE BY UNIFYING SEVERAL SUPPLEMENTAL LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGES THAT
UNITE FUNDING. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU DOCTOR.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT: I HAVE MORE TO SPEAK IN MY HARD COPY WILL ADDRESS WHAT I THINK IS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THIS
UNIFORM LEGISLATION. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT?
YES SIR, PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: GOOD AFTERNOON. WILLIAM HENNESSEY, ADDRESS] THE WINDSWEPT ACRE SUBDIVISION AND BOAT RAMP.
IT USED TO BE A COMMUNITY BOAT RAMP IT HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER TO INDIVIDUALS ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE.
WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY ST. JOHNS COUNTY PEOPLE HAVE COME FORTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE KNEW WHERE THEIR PROPERTY LINE WAS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ACCESS TO THAT BOAT RAMP. THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2015. SINCE I WAS EXILED FROM GOING DOWN THERE BECAUSE I WAS REALLY VOCAL ABOUT THESE TWO PEOPLE, FOR WHEN THEY DID NOT APPLY FOR A VARIANCE OF HIS DRIVEWAY AND MAILBOX ON THE SOUTH SIDE HE IS A MEMBER OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND I WAS A BUILDING SUPERVISOR FOR A BIG COMPANY HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.
I KNOW WHAT HE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT HE DID AND HE GOT AWAY WITH IT AND WHO KNOWS HOW BUT HE GOT AWAY WITH IT AND NOW THEY THINK THEY CONTROL THE BOAT RAMP.
SINCE -I CAN USE IT NOW BUT I HAVE TO GO AROUND THEIR IRRIGATION AND LANDSCAPE AND MAILBOX AND DRIVEWAY AND THEIR CARS, YOU CAN'T GET TO IT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY OWN IT. I WENT DOWN THERE THE OTHER DAY AND I THINK I CALLED TO THE SECRETARY TAKING PICTURES OF THESE HOMEOWNERS WITH THEIR VOTES STICKING OUT EVERYWHERE ON COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE IT IS PART OF THE PARK.
WHILE I AM TAKING THESE PICTURES I HAVE MENTIONED TO YOU ALL BEFORE THAT DRIVEWAY HAD A 33 DEGREES ANGLE GOING RIGHT INTO THE PUBLIC ROAD WHERE YOU LAUNCH YOUR BOAT.
I'M TAKING PICTURES OF THE GUY IN THE IS ON HIS BOAT WITH HIS FRIENDS EVERYWHERE WHEN THE GARAGE DOOR COMES UP AND HERE COMES THE WIFE BACKING OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY WHEN I AM TAKING PICTURES. HAVE TO BACK UP OR SHE WOULD HAVE RUN OVER ME.
I HAVE COMPLAINED TO YOU ALL A YEAR AGO A YEAR TO DATE AND IN BETWEEN THAT I GO TO THE BIG BOAT RAMP BUTLER WEST ON JUNE 5 ABOUT 3:00 AND HAD AN UNPROVOKED ASSAULT ON ME WHERE I SPENT SIX HOURS IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
GOD KNOWS, THANK GOODNESS THERE WERE EYEWITNESES THERE.
THOSE PEOPLE COULD HAVE KILLED ME.
I WENT TO MR. WALTER'S OFFICE AND ASKED HIM, HOW COME THERE ARE NO CAMERAS? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE BOAT RAMP AND GOING TO GET PICTURES FOR THIS WEEKEND, MEMORIAL DAY THERE WILL PROBABLY BE ABOUT 75 VOTES THERE. THERE IS NO CAMERAS THERE SEVEN GAZEBOS PEOPLE ARE COOKING OUT AND HAVE BAT MITZVAHS AND RELIGIOUS GATHERINGS DOWN THERE.
THEY HAVE GRADUATIONS AND BIRTH DAYS.
ANY LUNATIC WHO WANTS TO GO DOWN THERE CAN HAVE AT IT AND THERE'S NO CAMERAS AND WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE PAUL, WHEN I TALK
TO YOU? >> THEY WERE TOO EXPENSIVE.
ME GETTING MY ASS KICKED! >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU MR.
HENDERSON, I HEAR YOU. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: SHERRY BADGER, A PUBLIC ACCESS IT DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BUT IT IS A COUNTY ACCESS ROAD. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE TAKING POSSESSION OF IT. LET'S GET BACK TO THE STATE AT HAND. THE LAST MEETING I WAS HERE, THERE WAS A CONTROVERSY OVER HERE.
ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES GETS UP AND SAYS NO, THEY ARE 60 FEET AND THE AUDIENCE IS SAYING NO, THERE'S ONLY 40.
YOUR EXPERT EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING UP AND TESTIFYING TO STAFF THAT IS NOT TRUE. IT IS BLOWN OFF BY Y'ALL.
THE PUBLIC IS GETTING TIRED OF YOUR STAFF NOT HAVING TO BE SWORN IN, NOT HAVING TO TELL THE TRUTH, HALF TELLING TRUTHS AND Y'ALL DON'T KNOW BUT Y'ALL ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT AND THERE IS A LOT OF CHATTER IN THIS COUNTY ON WHAT'S GOING ON UP HERE. YOU MIGHT NOT INK ADDITIVES BUT PEOPLE NOTICE WHEN IT TAKES THEM FOUR HOURS TO GET OUT OF
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THEIR HOUSES. IT IS CALLED OVERSTRESSED INFRASTRUCTURE. Y'ALL JUST KEEP LET ME USE THE PHRASE, RUBBERSTAMP ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WITHOUT FIXING INFRASTRUCTURE, FIRST. OKAY? THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR TAX, THE ONE SENT SALES TAX WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED FOR 27 PROJECTS.24 OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE ON THE NORTH END OF TOWN.
YOU DID GIVE HASTINGS LIBRARY AND A COUPLE THINGS UP TOWN.
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN ORDER ON HOW THINGS WENT AND HOW THINGS HAVEN'T GONE IN THIS TOWN AND HAD THINGS BEEN SAID THEY WOULD BE DONE FOR THIS END OF TOWN AND IT WOULD BE ALL THE MONEY YOU HAVE FOR THIS TAX IS UP NORTH OF TOWN, PRETTY MUCH.
PEOPLE REALIZE THAT. Y'ALL MIGHT NOT THINK ABOUT THAT BUT MAY BE YOU DO AND MAYBE YOU DON'T CARE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BUT THE TAX MONEY HAS TO GO TO THE WHOLE ST. JOHNS COUNTY. EVERYBODY IS CUTTING TAXES AND WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTY WANTING TO RAISE TAXES.
I'LL NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.
HAVE A BLESSED DAY. >> THANK YOU.
WHEN ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENTS?
YES MA'AM? >> PUBLIC COMMENT: LORI LONG, ACCURATE CRASH DATA FOR OLD BEACH ROAD SOUTH AND STATE ROAD 312 AREA. WORKING WITH THE DATA WHICH THE ST. JOHN COUNTY OFFICE RECORD SUPERVISOR PROVIDED TO ME I WAS ABLE TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND PLACE IT IN A FORMAT FOR EASIER VIEWING AND READABILITY. AS YOU CAN SEE, ST. JOHN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ACTUALLY RESPONDED TO 12 CRASHES, NOT JUST TO THAT WERE REPORTED AT THE MARCH 1, 2022 BOC C MEETING. THESE 12 RESPONSES ARE SIX TIMES THE AMOUNT REPORTED TO THE COMMISSION AND WHEN WE ADD THESE TWO ADDITIONAL CRASHES THAT FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL RESPONDED TO THE TOTAL NOW COMES TO 14 CRASHES ON THE OLD BEACH ROAD, OLD A1 A AND 312 AREA.
IF WE INCLUDE THE DATA FROM 2018 AND FROM 2022 THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL CRASHES TO THIS AREA TO 18 INCLUDING ONE PEDESTRIAN FATALITY. OUR CONCERN IS THAT THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN OLD BEACH ROAD AND OLD A1 A SOUTH HAS BEEN A DANGEROUS AREA FROM MENENDEZ PARK NEIGHBORS WHO USE THIS ROADWAY EVERY DAY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THE ADDITION OF BEER AND WINE SALES WILL ONLY INCREASE THE CHANCE FOR CONSEQUENCES AT THIS LOCATION FOR PEDESTRIANS AND MOTORISTS ALIKE. ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND 27 NEIGHBORS I REPRESENTED AT THE MARCH 1, 2022 BOC C MEETING WHICH ALLOWED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU, THE BOARD TO RECONSIDER THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE TO GRANT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT THIS LOCATION.
I THINK I HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL A PACKET WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT VERIFIES THE CHART THAT I HAVE CREATED.
THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU MISS LONG, I APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS.
>> COMMISSIONER: I WANT TO THANK YOU.
A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE RESEARCH ON THIS. I WISH WE WOULD HAVE HAD IT BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS OF BRINGING IT BACK OUT BUT I THINK THE BOARD AT THAT TIME WAS REALLY STRUGGLING WITH MAKING THE RIGHT DECISION AND YOU ARE HEARING THAT. I WISH WE HAD MORE OF THAT INFORMATION BUT I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THAT TIME AND EFFORT AS THIS IS A DIFFERENT PICTURE THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED.
>> SPEAKER: OUR BOARD WAS TOLD THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WOULD GIVE A REPORT ON TRAFFIC AND WE NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BEHIND ANYBODY TO EVER CHECK ANYTHING HERE WE JUST ASSUMED WHICH WAS STUPID OF US I SUPPOSE AND IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN AND WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER INFORMATION THEY BRING IS ACCURATE.
I MUST SAY, MISS ANSLEY WHO IS THE SUPERVISOR OF RECORDS WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL. I MET WITH HER ON FRIDAY AND SHE PUT TOGETHER ALL THIS INFORMATION IN A MATTER OF MINUTES. I WAS TOLD WE WOULD GET LD GET HEAT MAPS AND EVERYTHING AND IN ALL ACTUALITY ST. JOHNS COUNTY DOESN'T USE HEAT MAPS. SO FROM NOW ON IF I NEED TO GET ANYTHING I WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE SUPERVISOR OF RECORDS BECAUSE AS SHE TOLD ME NOBODY ELSE CAN PULL THIS INFORMATION BUT SOMEBODY IN THAT OFFICE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT DO THAT. SO, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND
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IT IS A SIX TIMES DIFFERENCE IT REALLY IS IT STRIKING.THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU.
YES SIR? I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT WHILE HE IS UP STANDING THERE.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT: GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS AND ADMINISTRATORS, MY NAME IS MIKE KING, PRESIDENT OF THE FIREFIGHTER AND PARAMEDIC'S, WITH INCREASING GROWTH OF CHELATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE SO ARE THE DEMANDS OF OUR CITIZENS FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HAVE BEEN ATTRACTED HERE TO THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICES.
IT MIGHT'VE BEEN THE A RATED SCHOOLS, PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOODS, QUALITY PARKS AND LOW CRIME SECURED BY OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR THE SAFETY PROVIDED BY FIRST RESPONDERS ALL OF WHICH REQUIRE APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO SUCCESSFULLY MAINTAIN. IF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICES WE MUST BEGIN TO HAVE A SERIOUS CONVERSATION OF HOW DO WE FUND THIS GROWTH.
HOW DO WE FUND NEW FIRE STATIONS? HOW DO WE MAINTAIN REGULATIONS IN REGARD TO STAFFING AND RESPONSE TIMES HE MET COMMISSIONERS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS FAILING TO OFFER A COMPETITIVE SALARY TO NEW FIREFIGHTERS. NEIGHBORING FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE A STARTING WAGE OF SEVEN TO $8000 HIGHER.
OUR CURRENT VERIFIER EMT STARTING WAGE IS ABOUT $14.
YOU MIGHT ASK WHAT DOES THIS REALLY MEAN? TO BEGIN WITH MANY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY REPRESENT. THE DISPARITY OF STARTING SALARIES WITH OUR COMPETITION MAKE IT INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO RETAIN AND ATTRACT THE BEST FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS COMING OUT OF THE ACADEMIES. OUR CURRENT FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS ARE INQUIRING AND CURRENTLY SEEKING JOB OPPORTUNITIES IN NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS THAT OFFER WAGES THAT ARE MORE COMPETITIVE IN THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA MARKET.
ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS QUICKLY BECOMING A FIREFIGHTER TRAINING GROUND AND A STEPPINGSTONE FOR MANY NEIGHBORING FIRE DEPARTMENTS. WE ARE LOSING SOME OF OUR BEST WELL-TRAINED FIRST RESPONDERS. WE OUTFIT THESE RESPONDERS AND PARAMEDICS WITH EXTENSIVE GEAR AND TRAINING AND EDUCATION TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. THESE EXPENDITURES ARE LOST AND HAVE BECOME A BENEFIT TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
TO BE DIRECT OUR CITIZENS TAX DOLLARS ARE TRAINING FIRST RESPONDERS TO WORK FOR OTHER COUNTIES.
EXPERIENCE AND SKILL LEVELS ARE LEARNED IN TIME NOT MONTHS BUT YEARS. WHEN WE LOSE AN EXPERIENCE OF A 15 YEAR EMPLOYEE YOUR LEVEL OF SAFETY AND PROTECTION AS A CITIZEN IS DECREASED SUBSTANTIALLY WHETHER IT BE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, TRAUMATIC VEHICLE ACCIDENT OR FAMILY MEMBER TRAP IN A BURNING STRUCTURE.
FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS ARE HARD-WORKING AND DEDICATED SERVICE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
WE GIVE OUR VERY BEST EVERY SINGLE DAY.
COMMISSIONERS AND CITIZENS AND COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY HOPEFULLY YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO CALL 911, BUT IF YOU DO YOU WILL WANT THE VERY BEST, WELL-TRAINED PROFESSIONALS ARRIVING AT YOUR EMERGENCY. I KNOW AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTY THAT IS WHAT I WANT. COMMISSIONERS I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO. >> COMMISSIONER: YOU TODAY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TRYING TO RESOLVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> CHAIR: LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO ONE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 3. THIS MIGHT BE THE LAST ONE.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT: D.J. CALAIS HE, THE COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT CLAPPING WAS NOT SCOLDING.
SOME ARE ALLOWED TO CLAP AND SOME ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CLAP AND THAT'S A PROBLEM IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A DISRESPECT TO THE TAXPAYING PUBLIC ON THIS BOARD. IT BELONGS BACK ON THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA. YOU DID THANK SOME PEOPLE FOR STAYING SO LONG BUT I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD BE THANKED FOR STAYING SO LONG TO BE ABLE TO LET YOU IN THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE AS TAXPAYERS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO VOTE AUGUST 23 AND NOVEMBER 8. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS PIN WILL BE ALL OVER THE PLACE. VOTE NO SALES TAX.
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY KNOWN AS LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN EVERY COMMENT THAT YOU ALL HERE. FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FRO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE SHERIFF. WE HAVE NO MONEY TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. MONEY IS THE PROBLEM AND HOW IT'S BEING SPENT IN THE CITY AND IN THIS COUNTY.
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I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL TO WHAT WE VOTE FOR BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN.I THINK DEVELOPMENT IS THE PROBLEM.
OTHER PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SOLVE THAT. SALES TAX IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE
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IT AND I BELIEVE WHAT I SAID BEFORE WHETHER THIS PASSES OR DOES NOT PASS YOU WILL BE AND WILL HAVE TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES. THERE'S NO OTHER WAY BECAUSE MONEY IS NOT FALLING FROM THE SKY.I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN BE STOPPED OR HOW YOU CAN SOLVE IT WITH CONTINUE TO DO AND DO AND GIVE AND GIVE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. THANK YOU.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: WE ARE CLOSING
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> CHAIR: LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 3. MR. BURNETT DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 3? I WILL ALSO CALL ON THE HOMEOWNERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ALSO.
>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN I THINK I CAN SUMMARIZE IT QUICKLY BY SAYING THE WISDOM OF THE BOARD.
IT'S A WISE DELAY I APPRECIATE IT IT WAS GOOD TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS WITH SOME OF THEIR ISSUES AND I WAS TRYING TO HAVE SOME CONCESSIONS PUT TWO INK AND THEY WILL CERTAINLY RAISE THEIR HAND IF I MISSPEAK. IF I CAN PULL UP THE MDP MAP AND LOOK AT THE EMAIL TO THE LANGUAGE FOR THE STAFF I WILL TRY TO ENUNCIATE IT AS BEST AS WE CAN.
WE LOOK AT THE MDP MAP AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA OF LOT 86 THROUGH 100 THESE ARE MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE AND RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA.
LOT 86 THROUGH 100 NOT LOT 101 BECAUSE IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY IMPACT IT. THE FIRST ISSUE WOULD BE LOTS 86 THROUGH 100 WOULD HAVE NO TWO-STORY HOMES.
THERE WOULD BE THE FIRST ADDITION TO THIS FIRST MAJOR MODEL. AND, NUMBER 2 LOTS 86 THROUGH 100 IT CALLS OUT FOR A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND WE WOULD COMMIT TO THE TYPICAL STANDARD, I BELIEVE, YOUR CANOPY TREES ARE SPACED 20 FEET. EVERY 20 FEET YOU HAVE A CANOPY TREE. WE WOULD AGREE FOR THE SECOND CONDITION THAT LOTS 86 THROUGH 100 WOULD HAVE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING OF CANOPY TREES EVERY 15 FEET TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS NOT NATURAL VEGETATION.
WE DON'T WANT TO CUT DOWN TREES IF THERE ARE EXISTING ONES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS BUT EVERY 15 FEET INSTEAD OF 20.
IN THE THIRD THING, THESE LOWEST TWO LOTS, WHAT IS ON HERE IS 86 AND 87. WE WOULD, TO THE EXTENT MOVE LOT 86 AND 87 TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET TO ALIGN WITH LOT 85. AND WE THINK THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE IF IT CAN'T GO IN THIS AREA IF THE ROAD SWOOPS OVER HERE AND WE GET 86 AND 87 ON THIS SIDE AND THAT WOULD BE THE THIRD CONDITION. AND, WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAD A GOOD, PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
I AM GETTING SOME NODS AND SOME GOOD HEAD SHAKES.
>> CHAIR: IS THERE SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN SERVE AS A SPOKESPERSON, IF IT WERE?
>> SPEAKER: IN THE ROOM, WHAT IT IS WORTH FOR THE BOARD EVERYONE SPOKE AND WEIGHED IN THEIR OPINION AND THAT'S WHY TOOK EXTRA TIME. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS A SPOKESPERSON IT WAS EVERYBODY TALKING.
>> SPEAKER: PLEASE COME UP AND USE THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN
HAVE IT ON RECORD. >> CHAIR: PLEASE MA'AM.
>> PUBLIC COMMENT: I AM MICHELLE THE LARGO, ADDRESS] WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME I WISH IT WOULD'VE HAPPENED SOONER BUT THANKS VERY MUCH.
OUR BIG CONCERN WAS TO ELIMINATE THE HOUSES FROM 86 TO
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101 SO IT IS A BIG CONCESSION FOR US AND THEN WE WENT DOWN TO ELIMINATE TWO HOUSES. THE MORE THAT YOU CAN GET RID OF SOME OF THOSE HOUSES AND REPOSITION THE LAST TWO IS VERY GOOD. OUR OTHER CONCERN WAS TO PRESERVE THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THAT ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW SO ADDING MORE TREES AND IF THAT IS REQUIRED IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. AND ALSO THIS IS QUITE SURPRISING TO US BECAUSE AS I SAID, ALL OF US BELIEVED IT SWALLOW. SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE CONCESSIONS IT IS A GOOD SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THE BACK PART AND THAT IS GOOD. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD REMAIN IN CONTACT WITH KB AND WE HAVE GIVEN HIM OUR INFORMATION TO CONTACT JUST TWO OF US WE CAN KEEP THE NEIGHBORS INFORMED MOVING FORWARD. WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT IF WE COULD STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE BUILDERS.THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: MA'AM, GOING OFF AT THE COUNTY SAID EARLIER I THANK YOU ARE A CONDOMINIUM?
>> PUBLIC COMMENT: OR HOA? >> SPEAKER: MAKE SURE THOSE
ARE REGISTERED. >> PUBLIC COMMENT: I WILL
CONTACT. >> CHAIR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> SPEAKER: I THINK IT IS A FANTASTIC PLAN.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM MOVING TO THE WEST TO THE EAST, I'M SURE IT WAS NOT IN INTENT TO ENCROACH BUT I WANT TO GET THAT IN WRITING IF WE COULD.
>> COMMISSIONER: IF WE COULD READ THESE THREE CONDITIONS INTO THE RECORD IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF AS YOU GO THROUGH IT. NUMBER 1, LOTS 86 THROUGH 100 WOULD BE NO TWO-STORY HOMES. UMBER 2, LOTS 86 THROUGH 100 ENHANCED LANDSCAPING OF CANOPY TREES EVERY 15 FEET TO THE EXTENT THERE IS NOT NATURAL VEGETATION AND NUMBER 3 LOTS 86 AND 87 WOULD BE RELOCATED TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR A PRACTICAL AND MAINTAIN 100 TOTAL LOTS AND NOT IMPACT THE
WETLANDS. >> COMMISSIONER: IS THAT 101
LOT? >> COMMISSIONER: MR. CHAIR IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION TO CLARIFY A THIRD CONDITION OF RELOCATING THE LAW TO WHAT IS PRACTICAL WHAT IF IT IS NOT
PRACTICAL? >> CHAIR: WE HAVE HEARD THE CONDITIONS READ INTO THE RECORD IN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE FOUND IT EXCEPT THE BOWL AND IS THERE A MOTION?
>> COMMISSIONER: I HAVE A MOTION.
>> COMMISSIONER: Y'ALL CAN SIT IN THE FRONT THIS IS NOT CHURCH. COME ON UP.
I MEAN, IS THERE SOME WHERE WHERE WE CAN PUT THIS ON HOLD UNTIL WE GET AN ANSWER ON 86 AND 87? BECAUSE WE COULD JUST GO TO THE PARKING LOT TO SAY IT'S NOT PRACTICAL AND KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECOURSE TO MOVE 86 AND 87.
IS THERE A SOLUTION TO THAT? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE? AS FAR AS THE ENGINEERING NG IT?
>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIRMAN IF YOU THINK IT'S REASONABLE PRACTICAL, I THINK WE SHOULD SUBMIT IF WE'VE DONE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS POSSIBLE AND UNTIL THE ENGINEER DOES IT WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE DELAY. WE'VE GOTTEN MOST EVERYONE SUPPORT. WE'VE OBVIOUSLY MADE SOME GOOD PROGRESS. WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD IF POSSIBLE. I THANK YOU KNOW PAUL MICHAEL,
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HE IS IN THE ROOM AND HE WILL TELL THE ENGINEERS TO HAVE THEIR BEST EFFORT TO MAKE IT WORK.>> CHAIR: THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS OR
MOTIONS? >> COMMISSIONER: MR. CHAIRMAN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT THE ORDINANCE 21, 22 AND 38 MAJOR MOD ? 23 PHASE III AND FOUR BASED UPON THE SIX FINDINGS OF FACT THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
>> COMMISSIONER: SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER: DO I NEED TO
SAY AS AMENDMENTAMENDED? >> CHAIR: AS AMENDED, INCLUDE
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THOSE THREE CONDITIONS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD.ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING AND EXPRESSING YOUR CONCERNS.
I THINK IT ALLOWED US TO MAKE A GOOD AND REASONABLE DECISION TODAY BASED ON YOUR END BUT. I THINK THAT COMPLETES THE AGENDA AND WE HAVE DONE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK WE ARE READY FOR THE COMMISSION REPORTS WHICH I WILL TURN TO COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH R. BLOCKER.
>> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN I WANT TO BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION YESTERDAY WE HAD THE UNVEILING THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE K-9 FOR WARRIORS IN A VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE WORLD'S LARGEST MEGA KENNEL THAT WILL HOUSE UPWARDS OF 100 CANINES AND WILL BE USED FOR MILITARY VETERANS AND DEALING WITH PTSD AND SOME OF THE VETERAN SUICIDE.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN WE HAVE HAD RECENT LOSSES IN ST.
JOHN'S COUNTY WE LOST A MEMBER OF THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY FIRE RESCUE WHO WAS A COMBAT VETERAN AND HAS DONE FOR TOURS OVER IN IRAQ AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE AND SAD TO SEE THIS.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AS IT IS HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THE WORLD'S LARGEST EFFORT TO DO IT. VERY EXCITING TO SEE THE UNVEILING AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR STATE LEGISLATURES REPRESENTATIVE CINDY STEPHENSON, REPRESENTATIVE PAUL REINER, REPRESENTATIVE TRAVIS JONSEN WENT FORWARD TO SPONSOR THE LEGISLATION TO HELP PAY FOR THIS AND HOPEFULLY THE GOVERNOR DOESN'T VETO IT. WE WILL WAIT WITH BAITED BREATH BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT IT'S LIKE ON DELEGATION TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY IN HELPING TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.
THANK YOU, SIR. >> CHAIR: THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
PAUL? >> COMMISSIONER: A COUPLE OF THINGS. IF WE COULD ASK THE STAFF TO LOOK AT THE ISSUES ON 16 A THAT THE GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT WITH THE BIG CULVERT AND EVERYONE GOING AROUND IT THAT WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT FROM EARLIER TODAY.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO GET THE BOARD'S CONSENSUS ON, EVEN THOUGH HE IS ROUGH, HE IS 100 PERCENT TRUTHFUL ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE DRIVEWAY AND THE MAILBOXES IN THE STATE. FROM THE PICTURES THAT I HAVE SEEN YOU DO HAVE LANDSCAPE, TREES, EVERYTHING AND COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY GOING TO A BOAT RAMP.
I WOULD LIKE MAYBE TO GET THE STAFF TO COME AND BRING PICTURES OF IT TO SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WE FACE THIS WHEN HE FIRST GOT ELECTED AND I THINK WE TOLD THEM TO REMOVE THEMSELVES OFF THE COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THEY EVEN PUT POSTS OUT ON THE WATER TO TRY TO BLOCK THE BOAT RAMP AND THAT HAD TO BE REMOVED.
SO, GAIL ALBERS HAS THE PICTURES, THE SURVEY GROUP WENT DOWN THERE I THINK BUT IT IS UP TO THE BOARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT. IT IS A COUNTY PARK AND A COUNTY BOAT RAMP AND IT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED.
>> CHAIR: I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO DO THAT IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS TO DO THAT. ON A PERSONAL NOTE, THAT IS MY OLD HOOD. I LIVED THERE FOR 26 YEARS.
WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, THERE'S SOME OTHER PERSONAL STORIES THAT I WON'T GET INTO BUT ANYTHING ELSE?
>> COMMISSIONER: THE OTHER THING ELSE, WE HAD DONE A PRESENTATION ON TRAFFIC AND COST ANALYSIS AND I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN START USING THAT PROGRAM OR ENHANCE THAT PROGRAM AND ANOTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE WITHIN THE FOUR MILES OF THAT COUNTY THE OBLIGATION TO TAKE CARE OF.
I AM A BELIEVER IF ARE GOING TO APPROVE SOMETHING NEED TO MAKE SURE IT IS FUNCTIONALLY SOUND. IF THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR ROADS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF, WE NEED TO
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TAKE CARE OF THAT. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.I THINK THAT IS IT. OH, ONE MORE, I AM SORRY.
THEY RAN OFF BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET A WHITE PAPER OR SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION ON WHAT WERE DOING WITH THE STATE PUMPING WATER FROM BLACK CREEK. WE HEAR THAT WE HAVE WATER YET WE ARE PAYING MONEY TO PUMP WATER FROM BASICALLY ST. JOHN'S RIVER TO KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. I WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE EXPERTS THINK ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO.
>> CHAIR: I COULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME ON THAT BUT THE DAY IS LATE AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. >> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU.
>> CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT IT.
>> SPEAKER: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER: MY REPORT COMES BY WAY OF THE F DOT.
I SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE TPO AND THEY GIVE US SOME STATISTICS AND WE ARE OFTEN TALK ABOUT INEFFICIENCIES ON THE ROADWAYS. IT CAME AS A SURPRISE TO ME THE DISTRICT TO IS A NORTHEAST QUADRANT FOR THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WITH 1.8 ALIEN DOLLARS IN PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT FOR CONTRACT OR HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR CONSTRUCTION. OF THAT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY HAS $170 MILLION OF THAT. F DOT IS MAKING GREAT STRIDES AND MAKING IT A FOCUS TO ELIMINATE THE CRASHES AND SOME OF THESE INSTANCES THAT WE HAVE ON THE ROAD GOOD BOOK THE COMMISSIONER AND I AS PART OF THE BOARD AND COUNCIL GOT TO WITNESS OR SEE THE TARGET ZERO INITIATIVE THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REPRESENTATIVE.
FROM THAT I TOOK AWAY THAT THERE WAS EIGHT DEATHS ON FLORIDA'S ROADS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
DRIVER BEHAVIOR, HOWEVER, IS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR OF 94 PERCENT OF THE CRASHES. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED AREA OF THE COUNTY WHEN YOU SEE THINGS HAPPENING ON THE ROADWAY I OFTEN ASK MYSELF, WAS THE ROADWAY UNSAFE OR WAS THE DRIVERS BEHAVIOR UNSAFE? WE ARE ALL LIVING IN A ROAD WHERE THE PHONE IS IN OUR HANDS AND THERE'S A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL KIDS DRIVING AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE I WAS WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. I CAN'T SAY I WAS ALWAYS THE SAFEST DRIVER THEN OR NOW, FRANKLY, I'M NOT GOING TO LIE.
IT WAS NO SURPRISE FOR ME TO LEARN THAT IT WAS HIGH BUT I DID NOT EXPECT DRIVER BEHAVIOR TO CONTRIBUTE TO 94 PERCENT OF ALL THE CRASHES. IN 2020 THE STATISTICS WERE UNCONCERNED BUT I THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THINGS I THINK WE HAD 36 THE TALLIES ON THE ROADWAYS HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. 20 OF THOSE WERE DUE TO LANE DEPARTURES 10 OF THOSE WERE AT INTERSECTIONS SIX OF THEM WERE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN AND THE ONLY THING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS THAT 2020 WAS A COVID YEAR AND THERE WAS PROBABLY LESS TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD. I WONDER WHAT WOULD COME OUT OF 2021 AND THE 2022 NUMBERS. ALL HAD TO SAY IS THAT F DOT IS TAKING GREAT STRIDES TO BRING THE DEATHS ON FLORIDA ROADWAYS DOWN TO ZERO. I THINK OUR MESSAGE TO US IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED OUR HELP TO DO THAT.
AWARENESS IS A BIG PART OF THIS.
PUT DOWN YOUR PHONE THE TEXT CAN WAIT AND IN THE MEANTIME F DOT IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE RUMBLE STRIPS THAT YOU SEE IN THE SIDE OF THE ROAD YOU ARE CONSIDERING DOING THAT IN BETWEEN EVERY LANE.F PEOPLE WONDER WHY THE COSTS OF ROADS ARE GOING UP IT IS AN EFFORT TO SAVE LIVES.
EVERY LIFE THAT IS LOST AT SOMEONE'S MOTHER OR FATHER, BROTHER OR SISTER. THAT'S WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM THAT AND I HOPE THAT WAS HELPFUL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS INFORMATION THAT COULD BE USED.
>> CHAIR: COMMISSIONER SARAH ARNOLD?
>> COMMISSIONER: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE FLAW IN THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
>> CHAIR: NEXT TIME WE MEET JUNE 7 HURRICANE SEASON WILL BE IN FULL EFFECT. THE BELL CURVE IS USUALLY AT THE TOP IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER OR EARLY OCTOBER.
THE HURRICANE EXERCISE DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT DAY THAT IS ANYBODY? I THOUGHT IT WAS ON MY CALENDAR BUT I CAN'T FIND IT BUT FOR THOSE WHO KNOW WE HAVE A FULL DAY SORT OF LIKE ALMOST REAL LIFE HURRICANE EXERCISES SO
[06:35:03]
EVERYONE, ALL THE STAFF IS PREPARED JUNE 8? JUNE 9. I'M SUPPOSED TO GO OPEN IT UP BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN. BUT ANYWAY, WE WILL BE WELL INTO HURRICANE SEASON AND I JUST WANT TO TO MENTION THAT.AND HOPEFULLY, NOW WE WILL BE SORT OF I GUESS RACING TO EAT
[County Administrator’s Report]
THE CLOCK IF YOU WILL. I WILL SAY IT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN MY OPINION THAT WE HAVE THAT FEMA FIRM ENHANCEMENT COMPLETED BEFORE YOU REACH THE BELL CURVE OF WHEN HURRICANE SEASON HITS THE MOST. IT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS AND THE LAST REMAINING CRITICAL AREA THAT CRITICALLY ERODED STRETCH NEAR MICHAEL'S LANDING.IT WOULD LEAVE A SERIOUSLY EXPOSED IF THE BERM ENHANCEMENT DOES NOT GET COMPLETED BEFORE THE FIRST MAJOR HURRICANE.
WITH THAT WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO HUNTER.
>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
WE HAVE A QUICKCOUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES.
NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE THE ADMINISTRATORS BUDGET WORKSHOP ON MAY 23, 24TH AND 25TH. IT WILL START ON MONDAY THE 23RD AT THE AGRICULTURAL CENTER AT 9 AM.
YOUR WORK LOOKS WILL BE DELIVERED TO YOU THIS WEEK AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK CAN GET AN ELECTRONIC VERSION OF THE WORK LOOK HOPEFULLY BY WEDNESDAY OF THIS WEEK ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE SO A COUPLE OF DAYS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT IT IN ADVANCE FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AND THEN YOUR BOOK
[County Attorney’s Report]
SHOULD BE COMING TO YOU THIS WEEK, ALSO.THE OTHER THING I HAVE FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON AS YOU ARE AWARE THE BOARD HAS MADE A DECISION OVER THE JULY 4 HOLIDAYS TO CANCEL THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY AND SO, I WOULD PUT THAT BEFORE YOU AS WELL TODAY JULY 4 IS A MONDAY AND JULY 5 IS A TUESDAY SO AS IT IS BEING PASSED THE PRACTICES IS FOR THE BOARD TO DISCUSS THIS AFTERNOON THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE AND I WANTED TO LEAVE IT UP TO YOU TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. >> CHAIR: OKAY, LEGAL?
>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIR THE FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE HAS COME TO ANOTHER OPIOID SETTLEMENT PEER JUST LIKE RECENT SETTLEMENTS WE BEEN GIVEN A VERY SHORT TIMELINE SO I HAVE TO BRING THIS UP DURING COUNTY ATTORNEY REPORT IT CANNOT WAIT UNTIL JUNE 7. THIS PROPOSAL IS IN OPIOID LITIGATION SETTLEMENT WITH WALGREENS.
AS PART OF THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT THAT I WILL BE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR TODAY ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WILL RECEIVE APPROXIMATELY 617,000 DIRECTLY OVER 18 YEARS WITH AN ADDITIONAL $2,556,000 IN CHANGE OVER THREE YEARS TO BE PAID IN A FUND FOR THE COUNTY'S SHARE. THERE IS A JUNE 3 DEADLINE THOUGH I WOULD RECOMMEND A MOTION BE MADE TO AUTHORIZE A COUNTY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE THE WALGREENS OPIOID SETTLEMENT DISSIPATION FORM ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.
>> COMMISSIONER: SO MOVED. >> COMMISSIONER: SECOND.
>> SPEAKER: WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
>> CHAIR: PUBLIC COMMENT? >> SPEAKER: AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SETTLEMENT OF OPIOIDS.
SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE.> CHAIR: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.
OKAY, THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE TODAY?
>> COMMISSIONER: M
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.