[1. REZ 2022-04 5900 US 1 South. Request to rezone approximately 2.21 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Commercial General (CG) to allow for a combination of commercial and office uses.]

DATE UNCERTAIN? LINCHTS I MOVE THAT WYE CONTINUE ITEMS 2 AND 3 TO A DATE UNCERTAIN.

>> MR. MATOVINA: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. PIERRE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SHE GO NONE, SEEING NONE, E VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 4-0. AND SO NOW REAL GO BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA AND WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 1 HELP MS. TAYLOR, ARE YOU HERE? TANCHTS .

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET. WITH ME IS WILL RUSTLE WHO IS

THE APPLICANT. >> MR. MATOVINA: EXCUSE ME, MS. TAYLOR, ONE SECOND. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE

COMMUNICATION TO BE DELAYERED? >> DR. HILSENBECK: YES.

I DROVE BY SITE YESTERDAY MORNING.

>> MR. MATOVINA: SORRY, MS. TAYLOR.

>> THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.

SO THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE 2-POINT THE ONE ACRES FROM OPEN RURAL TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. THIS IS JUST A GENERAL OVERVIEW.

IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF US-1. IT'S QUITE A LITTLE WAYS SOUTH OF SHORES BOULEVARD AND JUST NORTH OF DADEL PEPPER ROAD.

GETS IN A LITTLE CLOSER YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT'S ACROSS FROM SUMMER BREEZEWAY THAT SERVES SOME OF THE APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA, AND AGAIN THERE'S DADEL PEPPER ROAD SO IT'S IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION. FUTURE LAND USE IS MIXED USE.

AND SURROUNDING IT IS RESIDENTIAL B AS WELL AS OTHER MIXED USE, SOME PUBLIC INDUSTRIAL WHICH WOULD BE HYDRO AND LARGE AMOUNT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AS WELL AS SOME RURAL/SILVICULTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

ZONING -- THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS BUT THERE'S ALSO COMMERCIAL GENERAL. PLANNED SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT AND RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME. JUST GETTING A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE SITE JUST SO THAT - AND THE SITE IS HERE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BEING A YELLOW, BUT ANYWAY, SO IT'S GOT CG ZONING IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH. AGAIN, IT'S GOT MULTI-FAMILY TO THE NORTH. IT HAS PUD THAT INCLUDES HYDRO.

TO THE EAST AND A CHURCH IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THIS AS WELL. AND A MOBILE HOME PARK JUST

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SOUTH OF THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING PARCEL.

AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE AREA JUST TO KIND OF IDENTIFY WHERE THE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE. THE CHURCH IS IMMEDIATELY HERE.

THERE'S A PLACE CALL CINDY'S RETREAT FOR DOGS JUST ABOVE THAT. THE INTERNATIONAL ARMORED GROUP AND ON THE MOVE, AND THIS WOULD BE WINDING CREEK UP BELOW ROARERS ROAD. HYDRO LUM UP IN TO THE SIDE, AND TOUR OF THE SOUTH IN THAT CG PARK IS THE OCEAN VIEW LANDSCAPE, THE SOUTH PARK VILLAGE MOBILE HOME PARK, AND DOWN JUST ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DATIL PEPPER AND US-1 IS THE CORPUS CHRISTI CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE APARTMENTS ARE MEDICINE ACROSS AS IS SUMMER POINT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT IS 2.21 ACRES. THERE IS A UNRECORDED EASEMENT THAT KIND OF WINDS IN AND OUTED ALONG THE NORTH SIGHT OF SIDEF THIS, AND IT SERVES THESE THREE LOTS, AND IT APPEARS IT MAY SERVE THIS PARCEL WHICH IS KIND OF JUST A FLOATING PARCEL.

SO THAT IS KIND ALIGNED WITH SUMMER BREEZEWAY.

YOU CAN EASILY SEE THE CHURCH AND THE LANDSCAPE BUSINESS AND THE MOBILE HOME PARK ON THIS. NESS A GENERALIZED SITE PLAN.

THE APPLICANT DOES PLAN TO DEDICATE A 30-FOOT EASEMENT FOR THOSE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SINCE THEY'RE NOT FORMALLY -- IT'S A NON-RECORDED EASEMENT, DOESN'T SHOW UP IN ANYBODY'S DEEDS OR ANYTHING, AND TO KEEP THE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF THAT AND WITH ITS OWN SEPARATE ENTRANCE AS WELL. STORM WATER IN THE FRONT.

AND ADDITIONAL BUFFERS TO THE EAST.

JUST SOME PICTURES, AND IF YOU ALL HAVE DRIVEN OUT THERE, YOU KIND OF KNOW THIS IS NORTH US-1, THE SITE ALONG THERE.

THIS IS THE SITE LOOKING ACROSS FROM IT.

YOU CAN SEE THAT ENTRANCE TO THAT EASEMENT.

THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM THAT AS WELL.

THAT IS THE LANDSCAPE COMPANY AND THE MOBILE HOME PARK.

AND THAT'S COMING UP FROM DATIL PEPPER ROAD AND THAT SHOWS YOU THE CHURCH. AND DATIL PEPPER ROAD AND THE DRIVE WAIVE IT LANDSCAPE COMPANY.

THIS IS FRONTAGE SOUTH. THIS IS THE EASTMENT AND OBVIOUSLY THE POSTED SIGN AND ALSO JUST KIND OF WENT IN PART OF THE WAY TO THE EASEMENT TO SHOW YOU IT KIND OF -- IT'S ADJACENT TO THE CHURCH BUT IT'S NOTE USED BY THE CHURCH.

THESE ARE THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ACROSS THE WAY.

AND THAT'S THE ARMOR GROUP AND THE MOVE ON THE NORTH.

SO THE REQUEST IS THE 2.21 ACRES FROM OR TO CG.

WE FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE, WOULD BE DEEMED COMPATIBLE.

IT'S PLOIFDZ FOR A VARIETY OF RETAIL USES AND OFFICE USES AND FAR LESS INTENSE THAN THOSE THAT WOULD BE IN SHOPPING CENTERS AND BIG BOX RETAILERS THEY WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND ALLOW US TO KIND OF COEXIST.

AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE EASEMENT THAT WOULD PROVIDE INDEPENDENT ACCESS FOR THE DISECIAL USES.

RESIDENTIAL USES. WITH THAT WE FEEL IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE AREA.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A PSD ZONING ON THE OPPOSING SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED BUT HAS ALSO THE VERY SIMILAR TYPE USES. PSDS WERE IN EFFECT LONG BEFORE OR AT THE SAME TIME AS PUDS AND IF THEY WERE UNDER 10 D PFD DOLLARS SO HE'S A LITTLE IDENTITY DATE.

ANYWAY WE FEEL IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLANS AND ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND WE ARE REQUESTING A RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL, AND

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY >> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TAYLOR? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? ALL RIGHT. THEN WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS.

>> MS. PERKINS: I'LL OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2022-05, 5900 USE 1 SOUTH BASTE DOLLARS UPON FOUR

[4. MAJMOD21-17 Cypress Lakes Village. MAJMOD 2021-17 Cypress Lakes Village, Request for a Major Modification to the Cypress Lakes PUD (ORD. 1986-15, as amended) ]

FIEWNGSD OF REPORT AS PRESERVE PROVIDE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY MEGAN.

IS THERE A SECOND IN. >> MR. PIERRE: SECOND.

>> MR. MATOVINA: WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. PIERRE.

LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES 5460 AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4. MS. WHITING FON, DOES ANYBODY

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HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE WITH REGARD TO ITEM

NUMBER 4? >> DR. HILSENBECK: I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL ON MY PZA ACCOUNT FROM A WOMAN JUDY MARTIN PERHAPS WAS HER NAME, URGING ME TO -- THIS BECAUSE THEY NEED COMMERCIAL SERVICES WEST OF I-95 OUT THAT WAY INJURIES, RESPOND TO HER, "THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR -- MAKING YOUR CONCERNS

KNOWN." >> I'M SORRY.

I HAD MY HAND UP ABOUT A QUESTION, BUT I WAS NOT CALLED.

I LIVE AT CAPTAIN'S POINT OVER THERE ON SOUTH SIDE, AND I ATTEND CORPUS CHRISTI CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY, AND ON OTHER OCCASIONS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AWFULLY CLOSE TO THE CHURCH. ALREADY THE CHURCH HAS PROBLEMS WHEN WE HAVE THINGS GOING ON IN THE EVENING.

>> MR. MATOVINA: MA'AM, MA'AM, WHAT ITEM ARE YOU TALKING TO US

ABOUT? >> SPEAKER: THE ONE THAT WAS

JUST FINISHED ON, I THINK. >> MR. MATOVINA: DID YOU FILL

ON IT A SPEAKER CARD? >> SPEAKER: NO, DID I NOT KNOW THAT THIS WAS ON HERE. I WAS NOT AWARE.

AND THAT 2.21 ACRES OF LAND JUST ABUTTING DATIL PEPPER ROAD E. I

UNDERSTAND. >> MR. MATOVINA: MA'AM, WE'LL HEAR YOU OUT. YOU HAVE THREE PLINTS AND YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD. BUT NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE

ALREADY VOTED TO PASS THIS ITEM. >> I HAD MY HAND UP BUT NOBODY

PAID ATTENTION. >> MR. MATOVINA: IT'S NOT YOU PUT UP YOUR HAND. YOU FILL OUT A CARD AND TURN IT

IN. >> SPEAKER: I DID NOT KNOW THAT THIS WAS HERE. I'M HERE FOR ANOTHER THING ALSO.

ALL RIGHT. AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK OR NOT?

>> MR. MATOVINA: YES, MA'AM, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO FILL YOU AT A CARD AFTERWARDS STATE OF EMERGENCY LIKE I SAID? I'M NADIA DE LA PENT A LIVE ON MARIN ERR ROAD.

I ATTEND CATHOLIC CHURCH CORPUS CHRISTI, AND WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ESPECIALLY OUR OLDER PEOPLE GOING OUT AT NIGHT FROM THE CHURCH. THERE IS NO LIGHT.

ARE THEY GOING TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT? TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC THERE? BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS, BAD ACCIDENTS CROSSING FROM DATIL PEPPER TO THE OTHER SIDE FROM THAT ROAD ON US-1.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT GUARANTEEING, YOU KNOW, PROPER PASSAGE OF THE CARS FROM ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE OTHER. I THINK IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ON THAT 2.2 ACRES, WE DO NEED A STREET LIGHT OVER THERE, A TRAFFIC LIGHT CONTROLLING THE TRAFFIC GOING TO AND FROM THE SIDES OF THE ROAD.

ALL RIGHT. AND THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING FOR. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. MS. WHITTINGTON, ARE YOU HERE?

MS. WHITTINGTON? >> SORRY, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING. MY NAME IS EXRIS SHEETSZ I LIF AT 7110 US-1 SOUTH AND I AM HERE TODAY TO PRESENT A MAJOR MODIFICATION ON CYPRESS LAKES VILLAGE.

WHAT WE'RE CALLING CYPRESS LAKES VILLAGE CHAS ACTUALLY A MAJOR MODIFICATION ON THE CYPRESS LAKES PUD WHERE OUR COUNTY GOLF

COURSE LIES. >> MR. MATOVINA: YOU'VE GOT TO

OPERATE IT YOURSELF, CHRIS. >> SPEAKER: OKAY, COOL.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. SORRY.

I'M REQUIRING THIS MUCH ASSISTANCE.

SO HDG MOVES TRACTS IS THE NAME OF THE ENTITY WHICH WE OWN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. LOOSE TRACTS WAS THE NAME OF THE ENTITY THAT OWNS IT PRIOR AND WE THOUGHT THAT NAME WAS FUNNY FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH. HER KNOWLEDGE DEVELOPMENT GROUP IS THE MANAGER OF THIS PROJECT, ONE OF THE OWNERS OF IT.

THAT IS ONE OF MY COMPANIES. AND I AM PROUD TO BE A FIFTH GENERATION FLORIDIAN. I'VE BEEN ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS SINCE 2002, OWNED SEVERAL BUSINESSES AND MANY VERY BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO DO SO HERE IN THE COUNTY.

A MAJORITY, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF WORK THAT WE DO IS HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE HAVE WON NUMERAL AWARDS, WHICH WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF, ON VARIOUS DIFFERENT LEVELS, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR COMPANIES, YOU NO KNOW THAT PHILANTHROPY IS A HUGE PART OF OUR FOUNDATION.

AS IS ALWAYS DOING THE RIGHT THING ALWAYS.

AND I PUT THAT UP THERE WHEN I DO THESE PRESENTATIONS BECAUSE

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IF -- ANY OF THE COMPANIES THAT WE DO, DOING THE RIGHT THING IS ALWAYS PARAMOUNT, AND THAT COMES INTO PLAY WHEN WE'RE PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS AND WHETHER COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL AS WELL. OUR PROJECT TEAM, FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE CONSULTANTS ARE LOCAL HERE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

KATHRYN WHITTINGTON IS OUR LAND USE ATTORNEY BUT I ASKED KATHRYN IF I COULD PRESENT TODAY, WHICH SHE WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT ME ASKING. SO AGAIN, THIS IS AT CYPRESS LAKES WHICH IS JUST OFF 207 JUST WEST OF 95.

IT'S WHERE OUR COUNTY GOLF COURSE LIES AS WELL AS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AROUND THE GOLF COURSE.

AND YOU CAN SEE OUR PROPERTY THERE IN THE HATCHED LINE AREA.

THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY STRADDLES OR IS ON BOTH SIDES OF CYPRESS LINKS BOULEVARD, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH LOOKING A AERIAL MAPS AND WETLANDS, THE EAST SIDE OF CYPRESS LINKS BOULEVARD IS OVER 90% WETLAND AND IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY BEAUTIFUL WETLAND IN THAT AREA.

ON THE WEST SIDE OF CYPRESS LINKS BOULEVARD IS PREDOMINANTLY UPLANDS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON TODAY EVEN THOUGH IT DOES INCORPORATE THE ENTIRE PARCEL.

FUTURE LAND USE FOR OUR PROPERTY LIES WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT IN THE PURPLE. AND OUR ZONING IS PUD BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PUD FOR CYPRESS LAKES. YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE PUD THERE IN THE CIRCLE. IT STRETCHES WAY SOUTH OF WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS, BUT THAT IS ALL ONE PUD.

SO THE ORIGINAL PUD BACK IN 1986 WAS APPROVED FOR RESIDENTIAL RECREATION BEING THE GOLF COURSE AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL.

IT'S LOCATED LESS THAN A HALF MILE WEST OF 95, AND 207 INTERCHANGE AND INCORPORATES ABOUT 673 ACRES.

COUNTY OWNED COLF GOLF COURSE IS 300 ACRES OF THAT AND TER ARE THERE ARE 523 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON 339 ACRES.

WE ARE TRYING TO BASICALLY RESURRECT THE ZONING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THE ZONING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE, WHICH WAS PHASE 2-5, IS ON 34 ACRES, AND IT WAS SLATED FOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES OF UP TO 240,000 SQUARE SPHEET.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL -- FEET. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PUD APPROVAL AND THE SAME THING WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY.

SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE OLD PUD MAP, WHICH IS MUCH SIMPLER THAN THE ONES THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER TODAY, COMMERCIAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE MIXED USE COMMUNITY HAD OF CYPRESS LAKES AND IT'S THERE IN THE RED CIRCLE.

NORTH IS TO THE LEFT. THE I KNOW THAT KIND OF GETS TURNED A LITTLE BIT, BUT NORTH IS TO THE LEVEL.

SO THERE'S TWO CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

ONE IS TO EXTEND PHASE 2-5, THE PHASING AND THE BUILD-OUT DATES.

240,000 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RESURRECT THE SAME ZONING.

IT NEVER COMMENCED AND IS NOW, OF COURSE, EXPIRED SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE SINGLE TEN-YEAR PHASE FOR DEVELOPING THIS SITE.

AND THEN PHASE 2. PHASE 2-5 MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TEXT APPROVAL IS WHAT WE ARE ALSO ASKING TO BE APPROVED WITH THE SITE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA. OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THIS SITE PLAN CRITERIA IS SHOWN THERE ON THE MAP.

34.4 ACRES, AGAIN ON THE EAST SIDE, THAT 11.9 ACRES WETLAND WILL BE PRESERVED. ON THE WEST SIDE, THE 22.5 ACRES IS WHERE WE PROPOSE TO DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL PROJECT.

THE SUB-PAR SELL DETAILS WILL SHOW UP ON THE INCREMENTAL PUD.

OR MDPS, EXCUSE ME. WE DO PLAN TO BUILT AND ARE COMMITTING TO BUILD A 6-FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG CYPRESS LINKS BOULEVARD WHICH IS EL CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK TO THE SOUTH AND ALLOW RESIDENTS TO WALK THEIR BIKE OR WALK TO 207 SAFELY. AND THERE WILL BE INTERESKT BETWEEN STRAIGHT ROAD 277 AND THE PUD DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH. MIXED USE LAND USE ALLOWS FOR NEIGHBORLY BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL.

THE GENERAL BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE ARE REQUESTING A COUPLE WAIVERS. WE'RE REQUESTING THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE UNIFIED SITE -- SIGN PLAN, EXCUSE ME.

BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE TENANTS ARE NOR DO WE KNOW THE NUMBER TENANTS, WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS WAIVER SO THAT WE'RE WE WILL EVENTUALLY, THROUGH THE INCREMENTAL MDP, BE ABLE TO SHOW THE NUMBER OF SIGNS THAT WE NEED.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE GOT ONE MAJOR TENANT AND THAT'S THE ONLY PERSON, THE ONLY COMPANY ON THE SITE WE WOULD LIKELY ONLY NEED ONE SIGN. IT'S OUR THOUGHT THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE PARCELED OUT INTO SMALLER PARCELS, SO WE ARE

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ASKING FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE A SIGN PER PARCEL IF THAT DOES HAPPEN. AND AGAIN, THE SIGN DETAILS WILL BE PROVIDED ON THE MDP AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS ONCE WE KNOW WHO THOSE TENANTS OR PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE.

THE SECOND IS FOR THE NUMBER AND THE MAXIMUM ADA OF GROUND AND BUILDING SIGNS. WE'D LIKE TO ALLOW EACH COMMERCIAL SUB-PAR SELL WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE ONE ON-PREMISE GROUND SIGN & IN FRONT OF THEIR LOCATION, TWO SIGNS FORE PARCELS DIRECTLY FRONTING 207, AND THEN HAVE 1.5, 1 OF-1/2 SQUARE FEET PERLINIAL FRONTAGE OF BUILDING -- PER LINEAL FRONT BEING THIS IS ON TWO ROADS, 207 AND CYPRESS LINKS BOULEVARD WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT WAIVER SO THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE APPROPRIATELY. PROJECT BENEFITS.

THIS REASON STATES AN ALREADY APPROVED BUT NOW EXPIRED NON-RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. IT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED MIXED USE, ALREADY DETERMINED TO BE COMPATIBLE AND DESIRABLE AT THIS LOCATION. IT'S AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE EXISTING MIXED USE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT TOTAL MIXED USE. IT'S A GOLF COURSE WITH HOMES AROUND IT, SO THIS WILL BRING A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO THOSE RESIDENTS. AND IT'S TRULY AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE COMMERCIAL SERVICES WEST OF 95 WHERE WE ARE LACKING IN A REALLY BIG WAY.

PROMOTES THE COUNTY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS, DELIVERS NEW JOB CREATION, ECONOMIC FISCAL BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY, FMS A NEED FOR COMMERCIAL, RETAIL AND SERVICES ON A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION DOOR DOOR BEING 207, AND COMPLEMENTS THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ALONG 207 AND 95.

AND BECAUSE IT'S TRACTS, MOOSE TRACKS, I WAS SKYFORCE FORCED TO THROW BULL WINK IN AND SAY THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

DR. HILSENBECK. >> MR. .

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AT THEMOMENT.

YOU WERE PROBABLY IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN THIS CYPRESS LAKES VILLAGE WAS FIRST PROPOSED BUT WAS YOUR FAMILY INVOLVED WITH

THAT OR YOUR COMPANY INVOLVED? >> AND YES, SIR.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: SO YOU'VE TAKEN THAT OVER RECENTLY?

OR JUST THIS PROPERTY? >> SPEAKER: JUST THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY WE OWN IN THE CYPRESS LAKES PUD. YES, SIR.

I THINK WE YOU THE BATE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

>> . >> DR. HILSENBECK: 30 30 ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? >> MS. PERKINS: WE DO NOT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: AND WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MEGAN.

>> MS. PERKINS: MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2117 CYPRESS LAKES VILLAGE REQUEST 4 A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO REINSTATE 240,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED PROVIDE.

ED IN THE STAFF REPORT MOONCHTS MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

SECOND BY DR. HYNES. ANY DISCUSSION? [INAUDIBLE] IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION IN HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

[5. MAJMOD 2021-23 Southwood Phases 3 and 4. Request for a Major Modification to Southwood PUD (Ordinance 1988-34, as amended) to revise Phase 3 and 4 in order to facilitate development of 101 single family lots.]

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. AND I'M VERY PLEASED THAT APPARENTLY THE DEVELOPER MUST HAVE GOTTEN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE TO BE HERE FOR A ZONING LIKE THAT HAVE AND NO AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION BE OBVIOUSLY MADE OUR JOB A LOT EASIER. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5, AND MR. BURNETT, ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DECLARE EX PARTE COMMUNICATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 51234 DR. HILSENBECK.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I DROVE BY THE SITE YESTERDAY MORNING, AS

MUCH AS I COULD SEE IT OF OF IT. >> MR. MATOVINA:

DR. MCCORMICK. >> DR. MCCORMICK: I HAVE NONE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: OKAY. YOU'VE GOT TO FLOOR,

MR. BURNETT. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

FOR THE RECORD DOUG BITTERN ST. JOHN LAW EV SEA GROVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE STAWGHTD, FLORIDA. WITH ME 2 IS PAUL MICHAEL FROM KB HOME. THIS IS A KB HOME PROJECT.

RUN INTO THE PROJECT AREA TO ORE YOU KNOW YOU.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT US-1 SOUTH APPROXIMATELY MID-WAY BETWEEN STATE ROAD 312 AND STATE ROAD 206.

IT'S ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE, ON THIS LOCATION MAP WHERE THE BLUE IS, THAT'S OUR SITE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE SORT OF THE BIG LOOP OF SHORES BOULEVARD GOING AROUND THE SITE.

TAKING AL LITTLE CLOSER LOOK, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE MAP SET WOULD ONLY DO DELTONA BOULEVARD, BUT SHORES BOULEVARD WRAPS AROUND BACK IN THE US-ONE. YOU CAN SEE NORTH OF WATSON ROAD IS WHERE IT'S LOCATED. TAKING A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK, YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PUD IT'S AN EXISTING PUD.

THE FRONT PORTIONS OF IT ARE ALREADY BIMENT AT THIS STAGE.

D. BUILT AT THIS STAGE. THIS IS THE CONNECTION.

THE BIGGEST THING THAT YOU WOULD NOTICE HERE AT -- WHERE

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SOUTHWOOD EXECTS TO US-1 IS THE MAYO CLINIC LOCATION.

THIS IS THE ROADWAY CONNECTION POINT THAT IS THE MAYO CLINIC SIGN AND IN GREEN HERE. IT DOES HAVE A FULL MEETING OPENING WITH A LEFT TURN LANE BOTH DIRECTIONS AT THIS INTERSECTION. LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IT'S RESIDENTIAL C. THE RESIDENTIAL C ALSO HELPS TO EXPLAIN THE AREA IN BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE PURPLE BEING RESIDENTIAL C, A PORTION OF THAT IS THE BELHAVEN CONDOMINIUM PROJECT THAT IS FULLY BUILT OUT AT THIS STAGE, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE VAST AMOUNT OF MIXED USE THAT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH ON US-1. LOOKING AT ZONING, AGAIN IT ALREADY IS WITHIN THE SOUTHWOOD PUD.

IT'S ZONED PUD. I'LL COME BACK TO EXPLAINING WHAT WE'RE ASKING HERE FOR IN A MOMENT.

AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE OVERALL SOUTHWOOD PUD AND HOW MUCH OF SHORES SURROUNDS IT. WE DO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY. WE DO HAVE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABILITY. LOOKING AT THE PROJECT ITSELF, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ASPECT OF THE PROJECT.

ZONING ON THIS OCCURRED IN '88 ORIGINALLY.

AND THEN IT CAME BACK IN '91 WHERE YOU HAD A SPECIFIC CALL-OUT FOR THE DIFFERENT PHASES.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HERE TODAY LOOKING AT PHASE 3 AND 4.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE SINCE '91, PHASE 3 AND 4 WERE CALLED OUT, AND YOU GET A TOTAL OF ABOUT 113 LOTS IN 3 AND 4.

THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU SO MANY ADDITIONAL HISTORY.

THIS IS WHEN BELHAVEN'S SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED.

IT DID HAVE IN THE CALL-OUT SHOWING WHERE PHASE 3 AND 4 WERE TO BE LOCATED. AND THEN AGAIN WHEN IT WAS BELHAVEN, ANOTHER SITE PLAN FOR BELHAVEN THAT WAS APPROVED RECORDED BY THE COUNTY, THIS IS BACK IN '03.

YOU CAN SEE FUTURE PHASE 3 AND FUTURE PHASE 4.

IT'S NOT SHOWING UP SO WOALT POWERPOINT, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE LOT LINES DRAWN IN THERE.

SO IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR WHAT WAS COMING FOR PHASE 3 AND 4 PER 20 YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU COUNT IT, MAYBE 30 YEARS IF YOU GO BACK TO THE '91 TIME FRAME. THESE ARE THEN WHAT OCCURRED, WHICH IS TWO MDP MAPS THAT WERE RECORDED CONCERNING PHASE 3 AND 4. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE, YOU COME TO 113 LOTS. WHAT WE HAVE DONE TODAY ON THE MDP MAP YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE THE PUT PHASE 3 AND 4 INTO ONE MDP MAP SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY RELATE, BUT YOU CAN ON THIS AERIAL SEE WHERE THE JAGGED LINE OF PHASE 3 LINES UP WITH THE JAGDZ LINE OF PHASE 4. THIS IS OUR NEW MDP MAP THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. IT IS A REDUCTION IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS. IT LACE LAYS OUT A LITTLE BEF AND IT REDUCES SOME OF THE PAVEMENT, AND I'LL COME BACK AND SHOW YOU THAT IN A MINUTE. THERE IS DIRECTLY FROM THE STAFF REPORT AS TO WHAT IT DOES. MOSTLY YOU SEE THAT IT DEALS WITH TIME FRAMES, RESIT SETTING THE TIME FRAMES FOR SOANS 3 AND 4 BUT IT IS DOES EQUATE TO A REDUCTION OF LOTS FROM 113 TO 101 SO IT'S A REDUCTION OF 12 LOTS FROM THE ORIGINAL CONTEMPLATED PLANS. LOOKING AT THE TWO PROJECTS, LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE TWO MDP MAPS VERSUS THE ONE I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS BILL BULBUS CUL-DE-SAC HAS NOW BEEN DELETED. THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT'S UP IN THIS LOCATION HAS NOW BEEN DELETED. AND THE DRIVE IN THIS AREA HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO WHERE IT'S LESS.

THE RESULTING THING, I THINK IT RESULTS IN LESS PAVEMENT, LESS ASPHALT, AND MORE STORM WATER CAPACITY.

IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK IN THIS LOCATION WHERE THE THIS POND IS CONTEMPLATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED ON THE PRIOR DESIGN. SO THERE'S A REDUCTION OF LOTS, INCREASE IN STORM WATER CAPACITY OR WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED. A UM CAN THINGS TO POINT OUT.

YOUR STAFF REPORT OF HAS TWO DIFFERENT MPPEDZ MAPS, AND OUR ORIGINAL MPPEDZ MAP CONTEMPLATED TBHUP THIS LOCATION THAT THERE WOULD BE POTENTIAL INTERCONNECTIVITY.

INTO THE SHORES FOR THIS PROJECT.

THE ACTUAL STAFF REPORT AND THE MDP MAP SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT THOSE THAT THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY HAS BEEN DELETED. THERE'S A BIG REASON FOR THAT.

IT'S BAD FOR ALL OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS WHO DIDN'T CONTEMPLATE THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY WOULD BE THERE.

ANYONE WHO WOULD BE LIVING IN DEL MAR OR LILY ROAD IN THE SHORES, THOSE ROADS COULD THEN CONNECT TO SOUTHWOOD AND COME THROUGH STOWTHWOOD. IT WOULD BE -- SOUTHWOOD PIPTD WOULD BE A POTENTIAL A NEW TRAFFIC THAT WAS NEVER CONTEMPLATED TO THE FOLKS WHO LIVE ON THESE STREETS WITHIN THE SHORES, OUTSIDE OF OUR PROJECT, WHERE FOLKS WOULD BE CUTTING THROUGH THEIR STREETS, SO UNLIKE SHORES BOULEVARD THAT'S BASICALLY LIMITED ACCESS, DOESN'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS BACKING

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OUT ONTO IT IN VICTIM LOCATIONS, YOU VICTIM LOCATION, YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THERE. INTERCONNECTIVITY HAS HARVEY EVER NEVER BEEN CONTEMPLATED SO WE REMOVED THAT FROM OUR PLAN.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU IS THIS AREA IN THIS LOCATION BECAUSE IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THIS LOCATION IS THE BELHAVEN CONDOMINIUM, EXISTING, BEAUTIFUL CONDOMINIUM PROJECT THAT ONE BUILDING, THE SIDE OF IT BACKS UP TO OUR PROJECT, THE OTHER ONE, THE BACK OF IT BACKS UP TO OUR PROJECT. WE MET WITH THE BELHAVEN BOARD AND CAME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO INCREASE THE LENGTH OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE TEXT THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT WOULD GO ON TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO ADD THIS LANGUAGE. I CAN TELL YOU CHRISTINE YOU ARE ERLT IS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE LAW FIRM ANSBACHER LAW THAT REPRESENTS BELHAVEN CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.

HER LAW FIRM WORKED WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR BELHAVEN TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THIS LANGUAGE.

IT'S LANGUAGE THAT THEY GENTLERD AND SENT TO US.

THERE'S NEE MAINISHES THAT'S ON HERE THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU.

ONE IS STORM WATER. THEY WANT US TO -- IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS FROM JUST WALKING UP AND LOOKING THAT THERE MUST BE WATER COMING OFF OF THAT BACK PORTION THAT ABUTS OUR -- THAT ABUTS TH.

THERE MUST BE WATER COMING OFF OF THERE BECAUSE THERE'S DOWNSPOUTS, THERE'S SOME REAR YARD, SIDE YARD THAT'S SLOPED IN THAT DIRECTION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE AGREED TO ON HERE IS THAT WE WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THAT STORM WATER THAT'S EXISTING COMING OFF THEIR PROPERTY IN CONNECTION WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THAT COMES OFF OF THE REAR/SIDE YARDS. AND SO THAT'S ADDRESSED IN HERE.

ADDITIONALLY SOME BUFFERING, AND I'LL SHOW THAT YOU IN AN AERIAL, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO A BUFFERING STANDARD.

THE STANDARD REALLY MIRRORS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDARD BUT IT'S HERE, IT'S SPECIFIED AT A MINIMUM THE COUNTY WOULD REQUIRE US NONETHELESS TO MEET THEIR STANDARD.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A WAIVER, BUT IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUFFERING THAT THE FOLKS AT BELHAVEN, AT LEAST THE BOARD WANT TO SEE THAT WE ARE COMMITTING TO THAT.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE'VE GOT IN HERE ON THE BUFFERING IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S NATURAL VEGETATION THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN IF IT PROVIDE THE SAME TREE CALIPER, SAME OPACITY, THAT KIND OF THING THAT THE EXISTING VEGETATION COULD STAY.

AND THEN FINALLY THE ROADS IS THAT -- AND THE COUNTY REQUIRES THIS AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL ANYWAYS AND THEY'RE MONITORING AND ULTIMATELY ISSUING AS-BILTS AND APPROVAL OF YOUR CO FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IS THAT WE NOT TEAR UP THE EXISTING ROAD COMING INTO THE PROJECT DURING CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR THOSE THINGS.

SO THERE IS A PROVISION IN HERE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THIS.

LOOKING AT THE AERIAL, THIS IS THE BEST WE COULD DO TO -- AND I SAY "WE." I GIVE MY WIFE SOME CREDIT FOR WORKING ON THESE PYROPOINT POWET PRESENTATIONS WITH ME.

THIS IS THE BEST IDEA WE COULD DO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA IN CONTEXT. YOU CAN SEE THE ONE BUILDING IN THIS LOCATION THAT'S SORT OF SIDE WAYS ON THE SITE SO ITS SIDE FACES TOWARDS TO PROJECT PROPERTY.

AND THEN THAT'S BUILDINGS 116. AND THEN BUILDING 120 IN THIS LOCATION, THE REAR OF IT LOOKS TOWARDS THE PROJECT.

AND SO THIS AREA IN HERE WOULD BE DOOLING BUFFERING THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THIS LOCATION -- ADDITIONAL BUFFERING.

AND WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT DOWN IN HERE WHERE THERE'S SOME EXISTING TREES THAT THEY MAY ACTUALLY BE ON THE PROJECT'S PROPERTY THAT IF WE CAN LEAVE SOME OF THAT VEGETATION, WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY GO AND KIT DOWN PLANTING STANDARD.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE AGREEING TO.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE POND LOCATED HERE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, WITH A COMBINATION OF SWALE OR PIPING TO THE POND, ACCOMMODATE THEIR DWRAIJ WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE -- DRAINAGE WHICH I ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING AND SPECIFICATELY DRAINAGE THAT WORK COMING OFF THE YEAR REGARD AND SIDE YARD HERE AND WHAT MAY BE COMING OFF THE ROOF.

SO WITH THAT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TW YOU WANT TO PHRASE IT HAD -- THE NON-OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT FROM THE BOARD OF DRERGTS FROM BELHAVEN. ADDITIONALLY, JUST AS I PULL THE YOU THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PUDS THAT WE'VE DRAWN IN INSTEAD JUST THE 10-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE.

THERE IS A 25-FOOT ON THIS SIDE AND A 25-FOOT ACROSS THE NORTH.

NORTH SIDE IN THOSE TWO AREAS.

THEN OBVIOUSLY THE EXISTING CONSERVATION AREA IN THIS LOCATION, IN THIS LOCATION THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND TO BE CONSERVED. AND WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: OKAY. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: SO, DOUG, YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING

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TO HAVE INGRESS AND EGRESS ON LILY ROAD.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> AND THAT'S CORRECT, YES, SIR.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I SAW THE PROPERTY YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS OUT THERE, WAS ON LILY ROAD AND IT'S A QUIET STREET. I'D HATE TO SEE THAT DISRUPTED.

SO IT'S ONLY YOUR WESTERN ENTRANCE.

>> SPEAKER: CORRECT, YES, SIR. >> DR. HILSENBECK: IN THAT EAST-CENTRAL WETLAND THAT'S %-ÚS OPEN WATER TO THE NORTH OFF YOUR PROPERTY, AND THEN HEIDRICK OR SWAMP TYPE VEGETATION SOUTH OF THERE. I COULDN'T REALLY DETERMINE WHICH WAY WATER WAS FLOWING. IS THAT FLOWING UP TO

MOULTRIE CREEK? >> SPEAKER: I'M NOT SURE OF THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE. I PROBABLY CAN GET YOU ANSWER ANSWER BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN I COME BACK UP HERE FORE REBUTTAL.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I WAS JUST WONDERING, I KNOW YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE REQUIRED TO PUT IN STORM WATER PONDS LIKE YOU HAVE THERE IN THE SORT OF SOUTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF THE PROPERTY SPINCHTS 3 THAT A LOT OF EFFORT, MY CLIENT SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF EFFORT MAKING CAN SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN H. THERE IN THE WAY OF STORM WATER AND PONDS THAT WILL BE NEED PD THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE WETLANDS AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S DRIVEN THE LOSS OF 12 LOTS AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THOSE STORM WATER PONDS IS THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THE NATURAL WATER FLOW THAT WOULD FLOW THROUGH THAT EAST-CENTRAL WETLAND AND POSSIBLY IMPACT MOULTRIE CREEK IF THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT FLOWS ALL WITH A DOWN TO MOSES CREEK OR NOT. BUT IT WOULD IMPACT THAT AND MAY EFFECT WATER QUALITY OF MOULTRIE CREEK WHICH THEN WOULD AFFECT THE MATANZAS RIVER. I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I'M NOT A BIG PROPONENT OF STORM WATER PONDS.

I THINK THEY'RE OVERBUILT AND OVERENGINEERED PERSONALLY, AND I'VE TOLD THAT YOU BEFORE. BY THE WAY, SPART, I DID SPEAK WITH DOUG BARNETT TWICE, YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE ABOUT THIS, SO, SORRY, JUST CAME TO ME.

SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. AND THEN I SEE WE HAD SEVERAL LETTERS TODAY THAT WERE JUST PUT UP HERE FOR US TO READ, AND THERE'S DISCUSSION IN THESE LETTERS OF 150-FOOT BUFFER.

DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT? >> AND NO.

>> DR. . NO, SIR IT'S NOT ON ANY OF THE CURRENT APPROVED MDP MAPS. THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF

THAT ISSUE. >> DR. HILSENBECK: OKAY.

IT SAYS, "I'M IN FAVOR OF AT LEAST 150-FOOT NATURAL WOODS BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN DEVELOPMENTS.

WE ARE ALREADY HAVINGND STANG WATER IN OUR SWALES, AND EVEN -- AFTER EVEN MODERATE STORMS," DADA DA.

AND THERCH THE SECOND LETTER MENTIONS AGAIN A 150-FOOT BUFFER. "I WISH TO MAKE KNOWN MY CONCERN THAT A 150-FOOT NATURAL WOODED AREA NEEDS TO REMAIN BETWEEN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD OF CAPTAIN'S POINT AND THE NEW I THINK THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, NUMBER ONE, WILDLIFE, NUMBER TWO, ABOUT STORM WATER RUNOFF AND BUFFERING FROM LIGHTS AND NOISE AND SO FORTH, BUT POSSIBLY SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE, BUT -- SO 150-FOOT BUFFER IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE AROUND ANY OF THIS PROPERTY?

>> SPEAKER: NO, SIR. AND IT WAS NEVER CONTEMPLATED OVER THE LAST, OBVIOUSLY, 30 YEARS THAT THIS HAS WEAN APPROVED, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GO BACK TO '91 IT WAS THE -- '88 WAS THE ORIGINAL ZONING ORDINANCE.

'91 IS WHEN IT WAS BROKEN UP TO SPECIFY THE FOUR DIFFERENT PHASES. SO THERE'S ROUGHLY 30 YEARS.

AND THEN THE '03 TIME PERIOD THE WHEN THE MDP MAPS WERE RECORDED.

SO 18 YEARS, 19 YEARS. THE ONE THING THIS DOES, THOUGH, HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD. THE CAP'S POINT AREA IS IN THIS GENERAL LOCATION. THE CAPTAIN'S POINT AREA.

AND THIS DOES HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD THAN WHAT YOU NORMALLY SEE ON PUDS. AS YOU KNOW, PUDS REQUIRE A 10-.

THIS ACTUALLY HAS A 25-FOOT OPEN SPACE BUFFER ALONG THIS BOUNDAR

BOUNDARY. >> DR. HILSENBECK: OKAY.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW. THANKS.

>> MR. MATOVINA: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> MR. PIERRE: YES, I DO. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE -- IT'S GOING TO BE 25 VERSUS 150 FEET FOR THE BUFFER.

>> SPEAKER: NO, I THINK THE -- I THINK THE COMMENT THAT DR. HILSENBECK IS REFERRING TO IS THAT THIS WOULD BE 150 FEET OF DEPTH OF THE BUFFER ON THIS EASTERN RIGHT-HAND BOUNDARY.

THAT MAY BE THE REQUEST THAT SOMEONE HAS REQUESTED A 150-FOOT BUFFER. THAT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED IN ANY

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OF THE DRAWINGS, NEVER HAS BEEN. BUT AGAIN, IT DOES ON THIS SIDE PROVIDE FOR 25 FEET INSTEAD OF THE NORMAL USUAL MINIMUM OF

10 FEET FOR PERIMETER BUFFER. >> MR. MATOVINA: MR. BURNETT, IS THERE SOME SORT OF HISTORY TO THIS PROPERTY? I KNOW THIS PUD HAS BUILT OUT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, BUT IS THERE SOME SORT OF STORY AS TO WHY THIS PIECE IS KIND OF BEEN PASSED BY OR NO PARTICULAR REASON THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF?

>> SPEAKER: I KNOW I HAVE HAD CLIENTS VISIT THIS PIECE MANY, MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS, AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE HISTORY AS TO WHY NO ONE ELSE HAS GONE ALONG OR GONE AFTER IT.

IT COULD BE THAT THE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT OWNS THE LAND, AND IT COULD BE THAT THEY'RE FINANCIALLY SATISFIED TO WAIT UNTIL THEY GET THE RIGHT PRICE.

I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY. I CAN ASK.

>> MR. MATOVINA: FAIR ENOUGH. THAT'S FINE.

SO I THINK WE'RE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT.

I'VE ASKED FOR EACH SPEAKER TO APPROACH THE MICROPHONE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE, AND IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE PLEASE REMOVE YOUR

MASK IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK. >> .

>> MS. PERKINS: KYLE HURRY. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SHEILA HURRY AND I LEAVE IT 441 BOLLER ICS DRIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SPHUSKLY FOR US, RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD, AND WE'RE CONCERNED ALL OVER ST. AUGUSTINE IT'S HAPPENING. TOO MANY HOMES ARE GOING IN IN VERY DENSE AREAS AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE IMPACT IT'S HAVING ON WATER, WILDLIFE, JUST THE BEAUTY OF OUR AREA, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER PHASE 4, THOSE EXTRA 20 HOMES TO ME, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. THERE'S TOO MANY HOMES IN A VERY SMALL AREA. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER THOSE ADDITIONAL 20 HOMES, YOU KNOW, NOT BE APPROVED. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.

WE'VE GOT TOO MUCH BUILDING GOING ON IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND WE HVE TO START CUTTING BACK, AND I THINK EVEN IF IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT, IT WOULD MAKE A IMRIMG PACT ON ME AND -- A BIG IMPACT ON ME AND FOR ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WILDLIFE, WATER CONCERNS. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CONCERNS PEOPLE HAVE WITH THIS AREA, TOO, AND OTHER PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, FOR ME THAT TO ME WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT, IF THEY COULD MAKE A CONSIDERATION TO TRY AND AT LEAST REDUCE IT BY THAT PHASE 4, THE 20 HOMES, I WOULD VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. AND I THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS: THANK YOU. MARK HURRY.

>> SPEAKER: HI. MY NAME IS MARK HURRY.

I LIVE ON 441AL BOLLERRICS DRIVE, ST. AUGUSTINE.

AND I DO HAVE A MAP I WANT TO REFERENCE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WRORKS. WORKS.

IT'S THE SAME MAP. SO ONE THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED -- I'LL JUST PUT THIS UP FIRST.

SO I KNOW THIS PUD WAS APPROVED IN THE '90S, IN 2003, BUT IN APRIL 2008 THAT IRN 9 ACRES OF CONSERVATION LAND WAS GIVEN TO THE ST. JOHN WATER MANAGEMENT, SO TO ME ME IT CIEFNGD CHANGES TE PUD.

SO ALL THIS LAND IN THE MIDDLE IS OWNED BY ST. JOHN WATER MANAGEMENT. AND WHAT I'M NOT SURE OF IS THIS WETLAND IMPACT AREA, IS THAT LAND OWNED BY THE ST. JOHN WATER MANAGEMENT? AND IF SO, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS DEVELOPER CAN ADVERSELY IMPACT CONSERVATION LAND.

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AND THAT GOES INTO PHASE 4. AND SECONDLY, FROM A SAFETY COMPATIBILITY POINT OF VIEW, THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE ROAD TO -- THAT COMES OUT IN CASE OF A FLOOD OR FIRE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HANDLE ALL THESE HOUSES PLUS EVERYTHING THAT'S OVER HERE, AND THESE PEOPLE WAY BACK HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT AND GET IN THIS BOTTLENECK HERE AND, YOU KNOW, FROM A SAFETY POINT OF VIEW, I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE.

AND THE ORIGINAL MAP, THEY HAD 20 HOUSES.

NOW IT'S LIKE 26. SO THEY'VE INCREASED THE SIZE OF PHASE 4. AND IT BRINGS IT ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE, WHICH AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IS COMPATIBLE.

SO THOSE ARE MY ISSUES. THIS INFRINGEMENT ON THE CONSERVATION LAND AND WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO TOUCH THAT? AND SECONDLY, JUST LIKE MY WIFE SAID, THE DENSITY, PARTICULARLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE WAY BACK HERE, I MEAN, IT COULD BE UNSAFE IN CASE OF A FIRE OR AN EMERGENCY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I REQUEST -- I DON'T KNOW. HE'S SAYING THAT THEY'RE MERGING PHASE 3 AND PHASE 4, BUT EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN UP UNTIL

NOW WAS PHASE 3 -- >> MS. PERKINS: THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> SPEAKER: PHASE 3 OR PHASE 4.

>> MS. PERKINS: THANK YOU. WILLIAM HUGHES.

SPRCHL WILLIAM HUGHES, 407 BOLLERRICS.

MY CONCERN IS WHAT'S GOING TO FEED THAT POND BACK THERE? THAT RUNOFF FROM THAT ONE ROAD IN PHASE 4? THAT'S QUITE A BIG POND. AND AM I GOING TO HAVE TO BE

LOOKING AT AN EMPTY HOLE? >> MS. PERKINS: WE CAN'T

ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> SPEAKER: EXCUSE ME.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU, MA'AM. >> MR. MATOVINA: THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR TO US ANSWER QUESTIONS, SIR.

YOU'RE ASKING A TECHNICAL QUESTION THIS BOARD IS NOT

QUALIFIED TO ANSWER. >> SPEAKER: I CAN'T HEAR.

>> MS. PERKINS: >> THE AGENCY DOES NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. YOU'RE ASKING A TECHNICAL TYPE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED BY PROBABLY THE APPLICANT CAN MORE ADDRESS THAT WHEN HE COMES BACK UP AND DOES

HIS REBUTTAL. >> SPEAKER: WELL, IT'S JUST A CONCERN THAT I HAVE THAT WHAT'S GOING TO FILL.

POND. WHERE'S THE WATER GOING TO COME FROM? THE BACK OF MY HOUSE BACKS UP ON

THAT MAJOR POND WE HAVE THERE. >> MR. MATOVINA: WE NOTE YOUR CONCERN, SIR, BUT WE DON'T ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

>> MS. PERKINS: GENDY CA LELL. I'M SORRY IF I HAVE

MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME. >> SPEAKER: DIFFERENT NAME.

YOU TO GET USED ON IT TO IT. MY NAME IS IS GEND GIGLIO I BLIF LIVE AT 269AL BOLLERRICS DRIVE. AND WE ARE A LITTLE WAYS DOWN FROM THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE WITHIN 300 FEET.

I HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS. THE WILDLIFE IS A LOT -- THERE ARE A LOT OF BATS IN. THERE'S DEER THAT WE'VE SEEN.

WE'VE SEEN SNAKES. WE'VE SEEN -- WHAT ELSE HAVE I SEEN? OH, LOTS OF HAWKS.

YOU CAN HEAR THE OWLS. THERE'S A LOT OF WILDLIFE THAT'S GOING TO BE TOTALLY DISTURBED BY THIS STRIPPING OF THE LAND.

ANOTHER BRIEF THING, AND I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT THE LAND BUFFER ON THE EAST PROBABLY AS WELL AS THE NORTH, IT'S 25-FOOT PER -- LET'S SEE HERE PER COMMENT MADE BY THE COUNTYY

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SAYS THAT THAT'S TO BE A NATURAL UNDISTURBED BUFFER.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP, THE MAP ACTUALLY SAYS LANDSCAPED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT COULD MEAN IT'S A NAME BUFFER, BUT I'M CONCERNED THAT IT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE A NATURAL BUFFER.

THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. ALSO, WE COME OUT ONTO US-1.

OUR BACKYARD FACES US-1. WE HEAR SIRENS ALL THE TIME.

THERE'S A LOT OF ACCIDENTS OUT THERE.

IT'S EXTREMELY BUSY COMING NORTH AND SOUTH ON US-1 AS THE PEOPLE ARE BUILDING OUT FURTHER AND FURTHER SOUTH.

IT BECOMES MORE DANGEROUS, PEOPLE TRYING TO COME OUT.

THE OTHER DAY I ALMOST GOT HIT. SOMEBODY TRYING TO GET OUT BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIGHT. THERE'S A LIGHT WHERE WE ARE, BUT A LOT OF OTHER PLACES NOT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THAT AREA, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE IF THEY APPROVE -- IF YOU APPROVE ALL THESE HOUSES IN THERE. SO LET'S SEE.

THE WATER AND THE STORM -- THE STORM WATER.

THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER IN THAT AREA, AND IT'S WET BEHIND OUR HOUSE, I BELIEVE. AND I DON'T KNOW TWHAL HAPPEN WHEN IT'S BUILT AL HAPPEN WHEN IT'S BUILT UP, WHATTAL THAT WILL CAUSE IN THE WAY OF RUNOFF AND WHETHER THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF OR NOT. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS: MARY HOLMES.

>> SPEAKER: HI. MIERM HOLMES, 329 VALLEYERICS DRIVE, AND I HAVE VERY SIMILAR CONCERNS AS EVERYONE ELSE.

I HAD SMOKING TO NICK MADRAM FROM THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND HE SAID THEY HAVE RECEIVED NOTHING ON THIS PROJECT THUS FAR, WHICH CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I ALSO, ON THIS MAP, IF YOU LOOK AT THE POND ON THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND SIDE, I'M THE LAST HOUSE THAT BACKS UP TO THAT POND.

AND I MOVED FROM THE BEACH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE I FLOODED TWICE. I MOVED OVER HERE SO THAT THT WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO ME AGAIN. MY BACKYARD IS VERY SHORT.

AND I DON'T WANT THAT POND OVERFLOWING AND ME FLOODING AGAIN. A JUST VERY TIRED OF THAT.

PLUS THE WILDLIFE, THE TREES, THE TRAFFIC ON US-1, ALL OF THESE THINGS, AND THE OVERBUILDINGS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, I THINK ALL OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONCERN AND NOT JUST RUBBER-STAMPED, PUT ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT IN. AND I THINK IF YOU ALL PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES, MAYBE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE 1918 AFTER I MOVED FROM THE ISLAND.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN THREE DEVELOPMENTS BUILT RIGHT AROUND ME THERE. THERE WAS NONE OF THAT BEFOREHAND. SO, I MEAN, DOES EVERY SINGLE INCH OF LAND HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY? WE'RE JUST LOSING ALL OF THE REASON THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME HERE. SO, I MEAN, I JUST THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF LIMITATION ON THE BUILDING THAT IS GOING ON. THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> MR. MATOVINA: THERE'S ANOTHER EPISODE LIE I OBJECT THAT WEEK I'M GOING TO CLEAR THE ROOM. PLEASE, NO OUTBURSTS FROM THE

PUBLIC. >> MS. PERKINS: MICHELLE

MCCARDELL. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO PERSISTENT OUR CONCERNS.

I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK THIS BOARD BECAUSE I'M MICHELLE MCCORDLE 433 BOLLERRICS DRIVE, AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE HERE IN FRONT YOU ABOUT THE ARBORS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EASEMENT FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO LIVED IN THE FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YOU LISTENED TO OUR CONCERNS.

SO I WANTED TO APPLAUD YOU ON THAT AND ARE I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU HAVE OPEN EARS FOR THESE CONCERNS AS WELL.

I HAVE MANY OF THE SAME ISSUES, SO I WON'T GO OVER THEM ALL AGAIN, BUT ONE OF THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS

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WAS THAT ON APRIL 5, ST. JOHN COMMISSIONERS SAID NO TO GREEN LATING THE DEERFIELD DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE INTERSECTION AT WATSON AND 1 COULDN'T HANDLE THE 63 NEW HOMES THAT WOULD MAKE THE PROBLEMS WORSE. YOU FOLKS ARE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE FATALITIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED AT THAT INTERSECTION. SO THIS IS 101 HOMES NOW ALSO GOING ONTO ROUTE 1 WITHIN LIKE S INTERSECTION IS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS. ANOTHER IS THE DENSITY.

I KNOW ON JANUARY 25TH THERE WAS THE MEETING I SUBMITTED SOME COMMENTS TO ABOUT DENSITY IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AND A LOT OF FOLKS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FEEL, AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU DO, TOO, THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT GETS DEVELOPED AND WHAT DOESN'T. SO YOU HAD THE BIG MEETING ON JANUARY 25TH. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT DENSITY BECAUSE OF WATER DRAINAGE ISSUE ISSUES.

THERE IS A WATER DRAINAGE ISSUE BETWEEN OUR HOMES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE VILLAGES OF VALENCIA, BUT THE LOTS ARE VERY, VERY SMALL AND THE SPACE BETWEEN THE HOMES IS SMALL, AND IT GETS IMPACTED WITH HEAVY RAINS, LET ALONE MORE THAT CAN HAPPEN.

SO I'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 2016.

I'VE ENJOYED THE WILDLIFE THAT LIVES BACK THERE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE WILDLIFE. AND NOT JUST THE DEER BUT -- YOU CAN DO THAT -- BUT -- AND I DON'T HAVE PICTURES.

MY ONE NEIGHBOR HAD A PICTURE ON HER PHONE OF A BOBCAT.

WE HAVE POSSUMS. WE HAVE RACCOONS.

WE HAVE OWLS. WE HAVE -- I MEAN, YOU NAME IT 1 THE KIND OF BIRDS, THE KIND OF EVERYTHING THAT COME.

SO I'M REALLY REQUESTING THAT WE REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS PHASE 4 AND ALSO ABOUT THINKING TO KEEP THE TREES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, TO KEEP THAT CONSERVATION AREA. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M ALSO HERE TO SUBMIT SOME NOTES FROM MY OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO COULDN'T BE HERE, AND I'M OUT OF TIME SO I CAN'T READ THEM, SO I WILL SUBMIT THEM TO YOU FROM TOM AND BETSY SIMPSON AND THEY HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT HABITAT AS WELL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS: HANNAH FLAKE.

>> SPEAKER: AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS HANNAH FLAKY LIVE AT 423 LOCALLAL BOORICS DRIVE. IN ADDITION TO THE INCREDIBLE WILDLIFE THAT MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS HAVE THE PLEASURE OF VIEWING EVERY DAY LIKE THE TURKEYS, THE BOBCATS, DEERS AND SUCH, I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS RELATED TO THE POPULATION OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA. THERE'S GROWTH OF THE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE REALLY OVERPOWERING THE LIMITED SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN THAT DIRECT DISTRICT.

WE HAVE BROUGHT OUR FAMILY TO THAT SPECIFIC PLACE FROM THE ISLAND BECAUSE OF THOSE GREAT LITTLE SCHOOLS FOR OUR CHILDREN.

AND, OF COURSE, ADDING MORE HOMES THAT OUR FAMILY UNITS AND EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THE SCHOOL POPULATION.

MY HOME WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THAT SOUTHEAST STORM WATER DRAIN POND. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE SMALL CHILDREN, AND MY CONCERN IS HOW IMMEDIATELY CLOSE THAT IS TO MY HOME. THAT WILL IMPACT ME IN SOME CAPACITY WHERE I HAVE TO CONSIDER A FENCE NOW.

MY LITTLE ONES ARE WALKING, JUST STARTED WALKING MOWP QUICKLY CAN THAT DROWNING HAPPEN? WE HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME, ESPECIALLY IN JACKSONVILLE WITH THOSE RETENTION PONDS.

THIS BUN IS MASSIVE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO STOP OUR CHILDREN FROM GETTING IN THERE? ITES NOT JUST MY HOME.

ALL OF US ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THAT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THIS MONDAY IS NOT MANAGED BY MY HOA.

WHO AM I CON ACCOUNT TANG WHEN THERE'S ALGAE, GROWTH IN THERE, WHEN THERE'S WILDLIFE IN THERE THAT WE COULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT? SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO BE CONCERNED WITH THAT? WE HAVE TO COME TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO ADMINISTER ADDITIONAL HELP.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE POPULATION, THE TRAFFIC, JUST LIKE MICHELLE HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT CONNECTION POINT ON US-1. EVERY DAY WHEN I DRIVE HOME DURING THAT 5:00 HUSH RUSH HOUR, YOU SEE A LARGE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES. IN THAT CONNECTION POINT GOING INTO THE SOUTHWOOD AREA. AND YOU SEE A BUILDUP, CUSTOMS COMING SOUTH, MULTIPLES COMING NORTH ALL WITHIN THAT VERY SMALL CONNECTION POINT. THERE'S NO TURN LANES.

IT'S JUST ONE CENTER LANE. SO IF YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT PHASE 4, REMOVAL OF THAT PROPERTY, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A GOOD EFFECT TOTE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE CONSERVATION THERE. AND IF WE CAN IN ANY WAY GET A GREAT BUFFER THERE, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THAT COMMUNTY HAS BEEN ABLE TO BUILD LARGE, DENSE BUFFERS BETWEEN ALL OF THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILD, WY DON'T WE GET SOME TOO?

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS: GLORIA WHITE. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS GLORIA WHITE. I LIVE AT 949 RIDGEWOOD LANE.

IT IS IN ITS SOUTHWOOD SUBDIVISION.

THIS IS MY SECOND HOME THAT MY HUSBAND AND I HAD PURCHASED.

AND ORIGINALLY THE FIRST HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2002, AND THEN WE HAD THE SECOND HOME BUILT WHICH I NOW RESIDE IN.

ORIGINALLY WE WERE TOLD THAT PHASE 3 AND PHASE 4 WOULD BE PART OF THE SUBDIVISION. I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

I HAVE STARTED A PROJECT WITH FDOT, AND THEY ASSIGNED A COMPANY CALLED PETERSON AND YAFY TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING A STUDY TO SEE IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE WITH OUR INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE AT US-1 AND OUR SOUTHWOOD ENTRY. WE HAVE ACCIDENTS.

WE HAVE DEATHS. NOTHING, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAS BEEN DONE IN THAT AREA IN 20 OR 25 YEARS.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A ONE CENT SALES TAX COMING UP ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER, BUT ACCORDING TO WHAT I READ IN THE NEWSPAPER, IT WILL ALL BE APPROPRIATED FOR THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SO I DON'T SEE WHERE ANY MONEY IS BEING ALLOCATED TO OUR AREA. WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE. IF YOU LOOK AT 206, GO NORTH TO WILDWOOD ROAD ON US-1, WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS AND EVEN DEATHS. IF YOU LOOK AT WATSON ROAD TO OUR ENTRY AND YOU'RE COMING NORTH, THERE ARE NO OTHER MEDIANS EXCEPT FOR OURS. AND OURS IS AN OVERLARGE SIZE ONE. SO PEOPLE ARE MAKING VERY GOOD USE OF IT. WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THE ROAD AT US. WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND MAKING 11 TURNS, WANTING TO GO SOUTH. THE ARBORS OF VALENCIA DO NOT HAVE A MEDIAN IN FRONT OF THEIRS, NOR DOES THE CLASSIC CAR PLACE, NOR THE -- THERE'S A STORAGE PLACE THERE TOO.

THERE'S NOTHING FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO COME OUT OF ANY OF THOSE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENCES TO COME DOWN US-1 TO BE ABLE TO GO SOUTH. THEY HAVE TO COME TO OUR INTERSECTION, OUR MEDIAN. NOW, I KNOW ANDOVER, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF US, HAS A SMALL MEDIAN.

IT SHARES KIND OF AN AREA WHERE THE MOULTRIE NURSING HOME COMES ACROSS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD, BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT, THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THAT IN ORDER TO SAFELY GO NORTH, THEY SHOULD GO TO THEIR NEXT TURNAROUND, WHICH IS US.

SO WE HAVE A COLLAGE OF VEHICLES COMING AT US FROM EVERY DIRECTION. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE THE BUILDER OR DEVELOPER HELP US WITH SOMETHING.

THANK YOU. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU,

MA'AM. >> MS. PERKINS: GABRIEL

ENRIQUE. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS GABRIEL ENRIQUEZ 112 LAURELWOOD WAY.

MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT MOST OF THE TALKING POINTS IN THE DISSENTING OPINIONS ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH. SOMEONE MENTIONED IN THE AUDIENCE, SOMEONE MENTIONED GOPHER TORTOISES.

THERE ARE GOPHER TORTOISES BACK THERE.

THEY ARE PROTECTED BY FLORIDA STATUTES.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE DEVELOPER HAS ACTUALLY COME IN AND START SURVEYING AND WORKING THE LAND WITHOUT A PERMIT.

I HAVE A THREAT OF EMAILS ON THAT.

WE'VE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE TRACK OF PROBLEMS. THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT PRESENTED BY THE DEVELOPER TODAY, NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF ONE, EITHER, BUT THERE IS A REQUEST FOR 101 NEW HOMES. THAT'S POTENTIAL IF YOU'VE GOT TWO CAR GARAGES UP TO 200 VEHICLES, IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE SO THAT'S A PROBLEM.

AND WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT THE BAD INTERSECTION, BAD CONNECTION TO US-1. I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A LOT OF SERIOUS ACCIDENTS THERE. WE'VE HAD A NEIGHBOR THAT JUST HAD HER CAR TOTALED RECENTLY. SHE'S OLDER THAN ME AND NOT IN -- NOT IN A WAY -- AS YOU GET OLDER, INCLUDING MYSELF, 40 YEARS OLD, YOU START TO LOSE THE REACTION TIME, AND SOME OF THE REACTION TIMES YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS PLACE, OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE EVEN AT MY AGE.

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AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAD A CAR ACCIDENT MONDAY WHERE SOMEBODY APPARENTLY CAME OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HIT A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS TRAVELING SOUTH. THEY HIT HIS VEHICLE, HIS TRAILER. HOE WAS APPARENTLY TOWING A TRAILER. EVERYTHING FLIPPED OVER AND TWO DOGS ESCAPED. SO MY WIFE AND I WENT LOOKING FOR DOGS MONDAY MORNING INSTEAD OF GOING TO WORK.

THEY APPARENTLY RAN ACROSS US-1 AND GOT OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF -- YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THIS GUY MUST HAVE FELT LIKE.

HE WAS IN TOTAL SHOCK. HE STOOD THERE AND SAID, "ALL I WANT ARE MY DOGS." SO AN ACCIDENT THAT THEY DIDN'T SEE COMING AND THAT HE HAD NO -- HE WAS IN TOTAL SHOCK ABOUT IT.

SO HE HAD NO WAY TO HANDLE THOSE EMOTIONS IMMEDIATELY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO THANK YOU FORE YOUR .

HOPEFULLY YOU'LL CONSIDER THAT THESE ARE THE STORIES THAT ARE COMING FORWARD AND THAT THE TRAFFIC IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM.

THANK YOU. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

PENCHT CHRISTINE EFFORTEL. E URTEL.

>> SPEAKER: THEL H. NAMES YIS TEEN I'M ABOUT THE LAW FIRM OF ONS BALKER LAW ON OF BEHALF BELHAVEN OUR FIRM TRACY IS 1650 US-1 SOUTH HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE AND 120 LAURELWOOD WAY.

IT'S THE BELHAVEN CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION OF OF ST. AUGUSTINE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION. WE DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, AS MR. BURN T MENTIONED. WE HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS AND THEY OF AGREED TO ADDRESS THEM. SO LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH THE RED LINE VERSION, AND YOU DON'T OPPOSE THOSE, THEN WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE. JUST TO REITERATE AGAIN, IT'S AP AMENDMENT TO EXHIBIT C WHICH IS THE MASTER PLAN TEXT.

IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE FOR THE STORM WATER CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, AS MR. BURNETT AND THE APPLICANT MENTIONED.

OUR PROPERTY, AS IN BELHAVEN'S PROPERTY, DOES HAVE WATER COMING OFF INTO THAT PROPERTY. IT WAS ALL OWNED BY ONE OWNER WHO IS STILL THE PERSON WHO OWNS IT NOW AND IS TRYING TO SELL IT TO THE APPLICANT. THERE'S DRAIFNS THERE.

THERE'S CLEARLY WATER GOING ON TO THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO ADDRESS THAT. WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT.

THE PLAN IS FOR NOT ONLY TO ADDRESS IT BUT TO SEE THE PLANS AS THEY GET DEVELOPED SO THAT WE CAN CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE GETTING INCORPORATED INTO THAT. WE ALSO ANTED WANTED TO ADDRESS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AND WE DEGREE ON SPECIFIC PLANTS AND AGAIN WE DO ASK YOU THAT YOU ADOPT THAT AS THE RED LINE VERSION. I DO UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE YOUR OWN STANDARDS BUT WE FEEL BETTER IF THEY WERE ALREADY IN THE PLAN THAT'S APPROVED SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ADDRESSED.

AND THEN AS DOUG MENTIONED, THE ROADS.

I KNOW IT'S A REQUIREMENT BUT WE FEEL BETTER IF IT WAS TWRIN IN N THERE. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, A LOT OF-VEHICLES. IT IS UNONE ROAD.

IT. >> BE DAMAGED IN SOME WAY.

I HAVEN'T SEEN DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT GETS ADDRESSED AND IT'S RESTORED TO THE WAY IT IS NOW WHEN THEY'RE DONE DEVELOPING.

THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS: RICHARD

EDWARDS. >> SPEAKER: RICHARD EDWARDS 572 BOXWOOD PLACE IN SOUTHWOOD. I ALSO OWN A PLACE IN BELHAVEN, MY SON. THREE CONCERNS.

MOST OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.

I HAVE A CONCERN, THOUGH, ABOUT THE WETLANDS AREA THAT HAS A ROAD GOING OVER IT. I WAS ON THE ART COMMITTEE FOR SOUTHWOOD HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BACK IN 2006 FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. AND SOUTH GATE AT THAT TIME WAS DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY. AT THAT TIME THEY INDICATED THAT THAT PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER ENTRANCE INTO THAT PROPERTY OR BUILD A BRIDGE OVER THAT WETLANDS AREA.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD, IF THEY'RE GOING TO FILL IT IN, PUT A CAUSEWAY, JUT WHAT THE DEAL IS FOR THAT, BUT ANYTHING THEY PUT IN THERE IS GOING TO IMPEDE THE FLOW AND THEREFORE AFFECT ALL THE WILDLIFE THAT'S BEEN IN THAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME.

SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON IRRIGATION.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN SOUTH TWOOD THAT WE CANNOT ADD ADDITIONAL IRRIGATION TO OUR CURRENT SITUATION WITH THE CURRENT RULES THAT ARE IN EFFECT. SOMETHING WILL HAVE TO BE DONE FOR THOSE UTILITIES. I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PLAN FOR THAT OR NOT, BUT IT IS A NEED AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I SEE IT.

AND THE TRAFFIC SITUATION HAS BEEN HIT BY SEVERAL PEOPLE UP HERE. WE'VE HAD AN ACCIDENT THIS PAST WEEK, TERRIBLE ONE, BUT I BELIEVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THAT INTERSECTION, ABOUT ONE PERSON IS KILLED EVERY

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YEAR IN THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

WE HAVE PEOPLE MAKING U-TURNS. WE HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO CROSS OVER, AND IT'S REALLY A TERRIBLE SITUATION.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN, MAKE A RIGHT TURN AND THEN COME BACK AROUND, MAKE A U-TURN.

IT'S INSUFFICIENT. AND I JUST SEEM TO HAVE ANY CHANGE AND THAT HASN'T CHANGED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2005.

I THINK THAT'S IT. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME CHANGES THAT PEOPLE ARE HAPPY

WITH. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS: CHRISTINE STEPES.

>> SPEAKER: HI. I'M HERE FORE CAPTAIN'S POINT SERVICE CORPORATION. I'M A RESIDENT, CHRISTINE CITY OF WELL 170 MARINER ROAD AND 32086, AND OUR CAPTAIN'S POINT ABUTS THAT PROPERTY &. AND I HAVE LETTERS FROM SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY ONE OF THEM YOU REFERENCED EARLIER. AND THE SAME SITUATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE SERIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS, OF COURSE, TRAFFIC. I PERSONALLY MOVED HERE -- MY HUSBAND MOVED HERE FROM FORT LAUDERDALE, AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS TRAFFIC, HORRIBLE ACCIDENTS, HORRIBLE DRIVING CONDITIONS, AND OVERCROWDING, OVERBUILDING, SO WE MOVED HERE TO ST. AUGUSTINE AND NOW WE ARE SURROUNDED BY BUILDING.

THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING IS BUILDING THE LAST TEN YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE, NINE YEARS. AND SO IT'S JUST BECOMING ANOTHER FORT LAUDERDALE. SAME SITUATION AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, TOO, IS THEY'RE PREDICTING 19 TO 22 HURRICANES,AL WHICH WHICH R I, AND ALL OF THIS BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE CONTROL OF THAT SITUATION OF WHERE IS THE WATER GOING TO COME TO OR IS IT GOING TO BE INCREASED IN OUR AREA BECAUSE OF ALL THIS BUILDING. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

SAME PROBLEMS AS A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP.

AND CAN I LEAVE THESE LETTERS WITH SOMEONE? THAT I BROUGHT FROM THE COMMUNITY?

>> MS. PERKINS: BETTY ANN BOSE.

>> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS BETTY ANNE BOSE AND I LEAVE IT 140 CAPTAIN'S POINT CIRCLE. AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER. MY PROPERTY IS ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE CAPTAIN'S POINT CIRCLE NOW AND I ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE WATER. WHEN WE GET HEAVY RAINS, THE WATER COMES ALL THE WAY UP TO MY SLAB.

AND A LOT OF -- ON MY BACKYARD DRAINS INTO THE AREA IN THE BACK. I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS CONSERVATION AREA, IT WAS WETLAND, IT WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED, THAT THAT WATER OF WOULD CONTINUE TO FLOW THAT WAY, SO I WAS GOOD. SO WHEN I PURCHASED THE HOUSE.

AND I MOVED TO THIS EAR TO GET AWAY FROM -- AREA TO GET AWAY FROM -- I USED TO LIVE ON THE ISLAND, AND WE LOST EVERYTHING DURING THE TORNADOES AND STUFF, SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE WATER THING. WE HAD 2 FEET OF WATER IN OUR LAST PLACE. I MOVED TO A PLACE WHERE I THOUGHT I WOULD BE SAFE. AND I'M JUST PRAYING AND HOPING THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ME AGAIN.

SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS: TORRE WILDER OR TONY.

>> SPEAKER: HI. MY NAME IS TONI WILDER.

I LIVE IN SOUTHWOOD. AND I LIVE AT 1065 RIDGEWOOD LANE. AND I'M CONCERED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THE ACCIDENTS WHERE SOUTH WOO LAKE DRIVE MEETS US-1. IT'S A REALLY, REALLY DANGEROUS SPOT BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME OUT, IF YOU WANT TO GO LEFT, THEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING U-TURNS AND WILL COME RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY IN THEIR BIG PICKUP TRUCKS RIGHT AT YOU.

AND THEN AS OTHER PEOPLE MENTIONED, THERE WAS A TERRIBLE ACCIDENT THERE THIS WEEK, AND THAT'S THE SECOND ONE THAT I SAW THIS WEEK. SO I FEEL LIKE THE COUNTY IS BEING OVERDEVELOPED. US-1 CANNOT HANDLE THIS TRAFFIC.

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I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR ONLY ENTRANCE AND WITH MORE HOMES COMING IN, IT'S GOING TO DISRUPT THE WETLAND AREA.

AND ACROSS FROM MAYO CLINIC IS AT OUR ENTRANCE.

ACROSS US-1 IS THE PLAZA WITH LOTS OF LITTLE BUSINESSES IN THERE AND THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHT.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE IS BEING WORKED ON.

AND WE SHOULD FIND OUT BY JUNE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT, BUT THE LAST TIME WE WERE TOLD WE COULDN'T HAVE IT.

SO WE NEED A TRAFFIC LIGHT. WE NEED MORE TRACK OF LIGHTS ON US-1. AND WE NEED LESS DEVELOPMENT OF.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT DRINKING WATER.

IN THE COUNTY -- I KNOW YOU DO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE WE WILL GET OUR DRINKING WATER IF ALL THESE HOMES KEEP GETTING PUT IN EVERYWHERE.

SO I'M OPPOSED TO PHASE 3 AND PHASE 4.

THANK YOU. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS: OUR LAST SPEAKER IS CHRIS SLEATH.

SHEATH. >> SPEAKER: NARCH.

CHRIS SHEATH 7310 US-1 SOUTH. I HAVE NO DOG IN THIS HUNT BUT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SITTING ON MY HANDS AND BITE OF COURSE MY TONGUE. I AM A RESIDENT OF THIS AREA.

I AM INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA.

TO THE FOLKS WHO STOOD UP AND TALKED FROM VILLAGES OF VALENCIA, ARBORS OF VALENCIA, YOU ALL ARE PEOPLE.

WE BUILT YOUR HOME. AND I THANK YOU FOR JOINING OUR MASTER CRAFT FAMILY. BUT THERE WERE DEER AND TURKEY AND GOPHER TORTOISE LIVING IN VILLAGES OF VALENCIA BEFORE WE CLEARED THE TREES AS WELL, AND THAT'S JUST AN INEVITABLE PART OF DEVELOPMENT. WILDLIFE, THEIR CORE DOSE ARE THOSE WETLAND RIGHT THERE AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO THRIVE IN THOSE AREAS. AS FAR AS STORM WATER AND FLOODING, I THINK IT'S A COMMON MISCONCEPTION BUT AS A DEVELOPER WE HAVE TO LOOK A PRE AND POST STORM WATER, SO WHAT WE LOOK AT IS HOW MUCH WATERSHEDS OFF THE PROPERTY AS IT SITS IN VACANT LAND AND WE CANNOT SHED MORE WATER THAN THAT ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE STORM OF WATER PONDS. THE WATER IN THE STORM WATER PONDS COMES FROM THE GROUND IT. DOESN'T COME FROM THE STREET.

THAT WILL FILL THE LAKE TEM PERIL AND THEN IT POPS OFF.

BUT IT'S UNFAIR, ESPECIALLY ON THIS SUBDIVISION, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. THEY'RE TRYING TO RELIUS THE LOT CAN'T YOU COUNT BY 11. WHEN I DEVELOPED THE VILLAGES VALENCIA ONE OF THE POINTS FOR ME WAS SOUTHWOOD.

I THINK IT'S A VERY WELL DONE COMMUNITY.

NOT ONLY ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AND DEVELOPMENT SIDE AM I INTEREST MIMENT FAMILIAR WITH THIS BUT WE DO SOWN A COMPANY THAT'S AT THIS INTERSECTION ON WATSON AND US--- NOT WATSON, EXCUSE ME, BUT ON US-1 AT SOUTHWOOD AT THE ENTRANCE.

I COMPLETELY AGREE WE NEED A LIGHT THERE.

THAT IS A STATE ROAD, THOUGH, THAT IS NOT A COUNTY ROAD.

SO WHILE WE'LL COMPLAIN TO THE COUNTY ABOUT NEEDING A LIGHT THERE, THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO THAT FOR US.

A LIGHT IS NEEDED THERE, THOUGH. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THAT'S -- IT'S HARD TO CROSS THROUGH LANES, SIT AT THAT MEDIAN, AND THEN TRY TO NAVIGATE INTO TRAFFIC AGAIN.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN UNPOPULAR STATEMENT IN THIS CROWD, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE TRULY ARE NOT OVERDEVELOPED IN THIS COUNTY. WE HAVE NOT BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE -- WE HAVE NOT PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT WE NEED, AND AS A RESIDENT SPEAKING, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS SALES TAX INCREASE, SO THAT WE CAN GET AHEAD OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND TO THE FOLKS WHO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE OVERDEVELOPED, THE HYPOCRISY OF THAT STATEMENT FROM A LOT OF THESE FOLKS IS JUST FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF YOU, I WOULD GUESS, MOVED HERE IN THE LAST 20 OR SO YEARS.

OR LET'S JUST SAY YOU WEREN'T BORN AND RAISED HERE.

IF YOU AREN'T -- >> METEROLOGIST:

>> MR. MATOVINA: MR. SHEATH, PLEASE ADDRESS THE COMMISSION,

NOT THE PEOPLE. >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR.

SORRY. SO FOR RESIDENTS THAT WERE NOT BORN AND RAISED HERE 1 THEY MOVED HERE FOR THE SAME REASON THAT OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE HERE AND WE PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TODAY TO BE ONE NATION BY DWD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WE NEED THROAT OTHER AMERICANS MOVE HERE. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: NO, BUT IF YOU KEEP SPEAKING UP I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU ALL GO OUT AND SIT IN THE LOBBY.

OKAY. I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH PUBLIC SPEAKING AT THIS POINT UNLESS THE THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO

WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

I WOULD LIKE -- >> MR. MATOVINA: YOU'VE ALREADY HAD YOUR TIME, SIR. YOU DO NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE.

[INAUDIBLE]% SO IS THERE ANYONE HOLES WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WHO HAS NOT ALREADY SPOKEN? APPARENTLY GOD WANTS TO SPEAK, WITH THE RAIN.

MR. BURNETT, DO YOU HAVE -- DO YOU HAVE SOME REBUTTAL?

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>> SPEAKER: I DO, AND I HAVE A FEW POINTS I THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL P. AND IT MAY CLOSE THE GAP BETWEEN THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE IN OPPOSITION AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THINGS WHEN YOU DO NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND IT OR FULLY COMPREHEND WHAT WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR COMPARED TO WHAT IT MAY BE.

AND SO LET ME GO BACK AND -- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT'S ON THERE NOW, THAT'S NOT OWNERSHIP UP. STILL GET A TAX BILL FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER THAT YOU OWNED THE LAND.

IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE ON A CONSERVATION.

WHY WOULD WE ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE LAND WITH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON IT? BECAUSE THERE WAS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAT WENT ALONG WITH IT.

YOU KNOW, AT THIS STAGE MY CLIENT UNDERSTANDS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PERMIT PROCESS FOR THIS PROJECT AND DO WHATEVER THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT SAYS RELATED TO THE CHANGES AND THE PONDS THAT ARE SHOWN ON HERE. THEY UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENT. YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF THAT, THOUGH, IS THE -- AND AS MR. SHEATH POINTED OUT, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE PRE AND POST DISCHARGE OF STORM WATER.

A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND US, AND IF YOU TAKE THE ONES U. THE ONES OVER TOTE EAST OF THE PROJECT, MANY OF THEM HAVE SPOKEN HERE TO TODAY, THY HAVE SWALES.

THEY DID NOT HAVE CURB AND GUTTER IN THEIR SUBDIVISIONS.

THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN ZONED AS A PUD FOR THIS USE FOR 113 LOTS FOR 30 YEARS, WE'RE NOW AT A STAGE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT AND IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT UNDER THE MODERN REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRES CURB AND GUTTER, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE STORM WATER PONDS HAVE GROWN UNDER MODERN TIMES AND IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE LARGER STORM WATER PONDS.

THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS, THOUGH, IS AT RESIDENTIAL C, AT SIX UNITS AN ACRE WITH OUR 34.2 ACRES OF UPLAND, THIS COULD BE A 205 UNIT PROJECT BEING REQUESTED TODAY.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND ANALYZE IS THE DEVELOPER HERE TRYING TO SQUEEZE EVERY PENNY OUT OF THIS PROPERTY, WE'RE NO HERE ASKING FORE A TOWNHOME PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING FOR A SMALL OF A LOT AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY HAVE TO SQUEEZE 205 UNITS IN THIS SITE.

THIS IS A SITE THAT IS COMING IN, SAYING THE EXISTING ZONING HAS IT AS AN EXPIRED PUD SHOWING ALL OF THESE PLANS FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS FOR THE PLANS, SHOWING 113 UNITS, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR TO YOU REINSTATE THAT AND ALLOW 101 UNITS.

SO WE LOSE 12 UNITS IN THIS PROCESS.

BUT IT IS ENTIRELY CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE CONCEPTS OF CONSISTENCY AND COMPATIBILITY, THIS WAS ZONED BEFORE YOU HAD A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE LANDKE CODE WAS 1995. YOU GOT ZONING IN '88.

YOU GET THE PHASING SCHEDULE THAT I SHOWED YOU FOR PHASE 1, 2, THE 3 AND 4, THAT CAME IN IN '91.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S EVEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS ADOPTED. SO YOUR REALLY TALKING ABOUT BEFORE PRETTY MUCH A LOT OF OUR MODERN ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. BY THE WAY, THE THERE'S OTHER LANDS AROUND US. A LOT OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED IN THAT TIME FRAME, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE SWALE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR STORM WATER INSTEAD OF CURB AND GUTTER.

YOU KNOW, I WAS SPHAWCT TO O ONE SPEAKER THAT COMMENTED ABOUT PONDS, AND YOU CAN HAVE DANGEROUS WILDLIFE IN PONDS.

KNOW THIS, IF EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU GET TO SHARE A LITTLE PEARL OF WISDOM THAT YOU'VE LEARNED AROUND YOUR CAREER HERE'S AN INTERESTING ONE. CASE LAW SAYS THAT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT ARE ON NOTICE OF A DANGEROUS ANIMAL IN THEIR ASSOCIATION, NAMELY, ALLIGATORS AND THERE'S SOME CASE LAW DIRECT RELATED TOO ALLIGATORS, YOU NEED TO GET RID OF THEM EITHER BY EXTERMINATION OR TRANSPLANT OUR NEED TO POST SIGNAGE VERY WELL AND MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC ARE PROTECTED FROMMAL ALLIGATORS.

SO THE ASSOCIATION HERE WILL HAVE A RESPONDENT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT DANGEROUS WILDLIFE IN THERE OR TO ADDRESS DANGEROUS WILDLIFE. BY THE WAY, THE THIS SOUTHWOOD PROJECT THAT'S BEFORE YOU, PHASE 3 AND 4, IS SUBJECT TO THE OVERALL MASTER ASSOCIATION. SOUTHWOOD'S REVIEW. DONE BY KB HOLME BACK IN CHARN EVER JANUARY AND THEY GOT FOR WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR AT THAT TIME APPROVAL.

A COUPLE MORE NOTES. AGAIN PRE AND POST STORM WATER.

WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE STORM WATER IN AND I CAN SURE THAT POST THE DEVELOPMENT ROADS GOING IN AND THE SPHRAWFT GOING

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IN THAT WE DON'T SURCHARGE ANY MORE STORM WAFT AWFORTD OUR SITE THAN WHAT IS BEING DISCHARGED OFF THE SITE.

BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING A STEP FURTHER BECAUSE OF OUR DEAL THAT I SHOWED YOUIER WITH EL ABOUT HAVEN CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION MAKES VERY CLEAR WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR STORM WATER ISSUES RIGHT NOW THAT SURCHARGES WATER ONTO OUR SITE FROM THAT ADJACENT BOUNDARY WITH OUR PROJECT, AND THAT'S WHY THAT STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY NUMBER 1 IS THE SIZE IT IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT SOME CAPACITY THERE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT STORM WATER.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE MDP MAP, THIS ROADWAY IS ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY -- WHERE YOU GET THE DARKER SHADING, THAT IS AN APPROXIMATE OF WHERE THE EXISTING ROADWAY,AL ACTUAL ASPHALT WITH SIDEWALK IS BUILT ALL THE WAY TO APPROXIMATELY THIS LOCATION. IT EXISTS.

IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO GO THERE BECAUSE THE SIDEWALK IS NOT A CUL-DE-SAC.

IT'S A DEAD END AND ARE THE ROAD'S CLEARED BACK UP THROUGH THERE IS A DIRT ROAD. ONE LAST THING AS FAR AS TRAFFIC. THIS IS LINK 117.2.

US-1 FROM SOUTH OF THIS SITE TO WILDWOOD DRIVE.

AND THERE IS CAPACITY FOR OUR TRAFFIC.

INTERESTINGLY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO JUMP TO THE NEXT LINK, 118, WHICH LINK 118 IS FROM WILEWOOD NORTH GOING OVER THE BRIDGE ON US-1. IT ACTUALLY HAS 5,000 MORE TRIPS. ON IT THAN US-1 IN FRONT OF OUR SITE. 5,000 MORE DAILY TRIPS THAN IN FRONT OF OUR SITE. THE SECTION OF US-1 FROM WILDWOODS OVER THE BRIDGE. AND THEN ONCE GET OVER THE BRIDGE AT OLD MOULTRIE GOING NORTH TO APPROXIMATELY WHERE WALMART IS, THAT'S LINK 119, AND LINK 119 ACTUALLY HAS 7,000 MORE TRIPS ON IT THAN US-1 IN FRONT OF OUR SITE.

SO -- AND IN THOSE AREAS THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER OPEN MEDIAN CUTS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE. SO FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE, THE CHALLENGES TO GET A RED LIGHT.

OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RED LIGHT STUDY AND DOT HAS TO APPROVE IT. AT THIS STAGE THAT HASN'T EVER BEEN TRIPPED AS A THRESHOLD. THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL IN THE MIXED USE THAT FRONTS US-1 NORTH AND SOUTH OF SOUTHWOOD AND POTENTIALLY MAYBE ONE DAY SOME OF THAT GETS BUILT AND THAT CAUSES THE TRIP OF THE RED LIGHT, BUT WE'RE SIMPLY NOT THERE AT THIS STAGE. AND AGAIN, THERE HASN'T BEEN A CONSISTENCY, COMPATIBILITY TYPE OF ARGUMENT HERE TODAY.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING THAT FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS. THE FACTS OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES WHERE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR WAIVERS. WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS. IT'S BEEN PLANNED FOR THIS LOCATION FOR 30 YEARS. SO WE'D ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN APPROVING THIS PROJECT. IT DOES MAKE A LOT OF SENSE IN THIS AREA. IT'S NOT A MAX MIIZATION OF THE LAND, AS I MONEY OUT. IT'S NOT AS COMING COMING HAD AND ASKING FOR 205 OR EVEN THE 113 THAT IT APPROVED FOR CURRENTLY. 2 THAT I'LL BE QUIET AND BE

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> MR. MATOVINA:

DR. HILSENBECK. >> DR. HILSENBECK: DOUG, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, AND SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP WHAT LISTENINGAGE THAT WAS ON US-1 -- LINKAGE WAS ON US-1 THERE SO YOU'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION FOR ME, THAT IT IS NOT ADVERSELY IMPACTED SEGMENT, AND I DON'T DOUBT YOUR STATEMENTS ABOUT GOING UP NORTH TOWARD MOULTRIE CREEK AND TOWARD WALMART. THAT'S MUCH GREATER TRAFFIC.

BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT KB MADE A PRESENTATION IN JANUARY AND GOT APPROVAL. WAS THAT TO THIS GROUP?

WHAT WAS THAT? >>> RP.

>> SPEAKER: IT WOULD BE SPECIFIC THROW IT OVERALL MASTER

ASSOCIATION FOR SOUTHWOOD. >> DR. HILSENBECK: EXPI AND

YOU GAVE IT TO? >> SPEAKER: I WASN'T A PART OF THAT TEAM. I GUESS I CAN ASK PAUL MICHAEL

TO COME UP. >> DR. HILSENBECK: YOU GAVE IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, THE HOA?

>> SPEAKER: TO THE BOARD OF THE ASSOCIATION.

>> SPHARCH. I'M EVER GOOD AFTERNOON I'M PAUL MICHAEL WITH KR HOME 1550 FORTUNE PARKWAY.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAD A SUBMITTAL THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE HOA BOARD IN ARB AS PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS.

WE SUBMITTED OUR ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND SITE PLAN FOR THE AREA AND RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD IN THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY.

AND THAT WAS WHAT DOUG WAS REFERRING TO.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT.

>> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. >> DR. HILSENBECK: THANK YOU.

ONE OF THE FIRST SPEAKERS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE ABOUT THIS

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STATED THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE A LIFT STATION IN HIS BACKYARD.

IS THERE A LIFT STRAITION PLANNED STATION PLANNED FOR YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ANYWHERE ON THIS SITE?

>> SPEAKER: THERE COULD BE WOULD BE A CUT-OUT FOR A LIFT STATION ON THE SITE PLAN. LET ME MAKE SURE I'M -- I USED THE MESS RECENT ONE. -- THE MOST RECENT ONE.

THERE YOU GO. IT'S CALLED OUT FOR RIGHT HERE, SIR. IT'S CENTRAL TO OUR --

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I SEE IT ON THERE.

SORRY, I COULD NOT. >> SPEAKER: IT'S REQUIRED TO BE DEPICTED SO IT'S RIGHT IN THIS LOCATION.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I RECEIVED THIS ELECTRICALLY AND I COULDN'T READ THAT AND IT'S BEEN STARING AT ME THIS WHOLE TIME.

IT OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT ABUT A NEIGHBOR AREAS PROPERTY ON THE

PERIPHERY OF YOUR PROJECT. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: SO IS THERE NO FEASIBLE SECONDARY ACCESS, INGRESS/EGRESS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, TO THIS PROJECT, LILY ROAD YOU SAID WAS OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD HAS REJECTED OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT DIDN'T HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS OR EMERGENCY ACCESS POIN POINT.

AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT DOING 205 HOMES, TRYING TO GET THAT ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT STILL, 101 HOMEOWNERS TRYING TO GET OUT DURING AN EMERGENCY, SO THERE'S NO OTHER FEASIBLE SECONDARY

ACCESS? >> AND NO, SIR AND ONE'S NEVER BEEN CONTEMPLATED, TO MY KNOWLEDGE OR ANY OF 234E MY

RESEARCH THAT I COULD FIND. >> SPEAKER: AND THE SECONDARY ACCESS AGAIN GOING UP TO THE NORTH TO LILY OR DEL MORE , RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE DEL MOREA OR LILY.

BOTH OF THEM COME RIGHT IN THIS LOCATION.

YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE IS THOSE FOLKS DON'T WANT THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY TO INCREASE TRAFFIC IN THEIR AREA, AND I THINK YOU WOULD -- THE FOLKS THAT ARE, SOME OF THEM THAT SPOKE HERE TODAY AND ARE ALREADY EXISTING RESIDENTS IN SOUTHWOOD AND OBVIOUSLY BELHAVEN'S ACTUALLY ASSOCIATION HAS AN ATTORNEY HERE PRESENT. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD WANT THE TRIPS FROM THE SHORES COMING DOWN THROUGH HERE WINDING UP ON SOUTHWOOD LANE. SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH MAKING ANY KIND OF CONNECTION IN THAT MANNER.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO FORCE ANY CONNECTION THERE, BUT JUST THINKING OF AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD. WOULD THE HOA OR THE BOARD OR WHOMEVER, THE ARB OR ARC DOWN THERE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT OR -- AS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONGER, THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS, SECONDARY ACCESS, INTERCONNECTIVITY WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS IS REALLY LOOKED UPON FAVORABLY BY THE COUNTY UNDER THE LDC.

>> SPEAKER: I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT IT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT -- I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING -- AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MISREPRESENTATION THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO BECOME OF IT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT. THE CHALLENGE, IF WE OWNED THIS SITE WITHOUT ANY LIMITATIONS ON IT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD EASILY MAKE THE COMMITMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT AS EASY.

IT'S MORE CHALLENGING TO SAY THAT WE CAN COMMIT TO THAT THAN ACTUALLY DO IT. AND HERE'S WHY.

I THINK TO HAVE LILY ROAD EMERGENCY ACCESS OR DEL MORA EMERGENCY ACCESS IS GOING TO POTENTIALLY CAUSE A LOT OF CONSTERNATION FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE HERE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: NO DOUBT. >> SPEAKER: CONCERNING THE POTENTIAL FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME EDUCATIONAL PROCESS TO SAY IT'S ONLY EMERGENCY ACCESS.

IT WILL BE GATED. THE CHALLENGE THEN IS PEOPLE GOING AROUND IT ANYWAYS. YOU KNOW, I'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN HERE BEFORE ON OTHER PROJECTS AND THERE WAS SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND, ALTHOUGH THE EMERGENCY ACCESS HAD A GATE THERE, PEOPLE WERE STILL DRIVING AROUND THE EDGES OF IT, SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO WORK THROUGH. AND THEN THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE OVERALL SOUTHWOOD HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, MASTER ASSOCIATIONS EVER ASSOCIATION, SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM TO ALSO, I THINK, OPINE ON -- I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICAL -- I HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH KB BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DO SOME, AT A MINIMUM,

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EDUCATIONAL DISCUSSION WITH BELHAVEN, WITH SOUTHWOOD PHASE 1 AND 2, THE OVERALL ASSOCIATION, AND LOOK AT IT.

BUT I COULD COMMIT TO IT O IT AS WE STAND HERE TODAY.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: CONCERNING THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THAT WETLAND AREA, THAT FLOW WAY, I'LL CALL THE IT A FLOW WAY BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOES FLOW, I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THAT EASEMENT AND THAT THE LANDOWNER STILL OWNS THE PROPERTY BUT IT'S AN EASEMENT GIVEN TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO PROTECT THAT PROPERTY, AND THAT YOU WOULD DEEFNED TO GO TO THEM FOR FOR A PERMIT TO CROSS THAT WETLAND THERE AT THE NORTH END WITH YOUR ROAD.

>> I THINK THE WETLAND, THAT CROSSING'S ALWAYS BEEN

CONTEMPLATED. >> DR. HILSENBECK: BUT IT'S

NOT THERE CURRENTLY. >> SPEAKER: OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT PAVEMENT THERE. I'M TRIALING TO REMEMBER.

>> DR. HILSENBECK:, I WISH I COULD HAVE GOTTEN ONTO THE

PROPERTY TO SEE. >> SPEAKER: THERE'S A TRAIL ROAD GOING BACK. THE TRAIL ROAD GOES BACK THERE,

AS I RECALL. >> SPEAKER: LET ME ASK PAUL.

THE PLANS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED THAT THERE WOULD BE AN IMPACT THERE FOR THE ROAD TO GO TO OBVIOUSLY PHASE 4 BECAUSE PHASE 4 HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE BACK TO '91.

>> SPEAKER: NO, THAT IS CORRECT.

THE ACCESS POINT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CONTEMPLATED IN THAT LOCATION.

THERE IS THE ABILITY TO CROSS THROUGH THAT AREA BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN DPICHED AND THERE'S NOT A CULVERT IN PLACE TODAY, BUT THAT'S BEEN THE ANTICIPATED CROSSING.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: YOU STILL HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FOR THAT,

CORRECT? >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR, THAT'S

CORRECT. >> DR. HILSENBECK: HOW ABOUT FOR THOSE TWO SOUTHEASTERLY LOCATED STORM WATER PONDS? DID THOSE, NUMBER ONE -- I KNOW YOU'LL GET A PERMIT FOR THOSE, BUT DO THOSE ENCROACH INTO THE WETLAND AREA? DO THOSE DIMINISH ANY OF THE WETLAND AREA FOOTPRINT?

>> SPEAKER: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UP HERE, 3 AND 4?

>> DR. HILSENBECK: 3 AND 4 GOES IN THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER.

>> SPEAKER: THOSE ARE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF WETLANDS AND

CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREA. >> DR. HILSENBECK: THEY ARE.

>> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. >> DR. HILSENBECK: AND YOU WON'T NEED ANY PUMPING TO GET WATER INTO THOSE.

THOSE ARE JUST FOR OVERFLOW? >>>

>> AND THAT'S CORRECT. >> DR. HILSENBECK: I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER.

BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT ANYWAY. SO THERE WON'T ANYBODY, EVER WORKFORCE HOUSING AS PART OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT? AND THEN TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, WHAT'S YOUR ANTICIPATED PRICE

POINT OF ANY UNITS IN HERE? >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR.

THIS PROJECT IS, AS YOU KNOW, OR MAY SUSPECT, DOES NOT INCLUDE WORKFORCE HOUSING. HOWEVER, WITH THE KB MODEL AND WITH THE PRODUCT THAT WE WILL USE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HOME PRICES WILL HAVE A BASE PRICING STARTING IN THE 300S, RANGING FROM THE LOW 300S, $330,000 UP TO $380,000, $390,000. SO WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF CURRENT HOME PRICING IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, I COULD CHARACTERIZE THAT AS RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE. IT DUSES NOT QUALIFY UNDER THE COUNTY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRITERIA, NO.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. >> MR. MATOVINA: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MR. BURNETT. FIRST OF ALL, THAT WAS THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH THAT'S SOME WITH THAT TRIANGULAR AND DOESN'T

HAVE ANY HOUSES ON IT? >> SPEAKER: I LOOKED THAT UP.

IT'S -- >> MR. MATOVINA: YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT'S CLEARED AND HAS CARS PARKED

ON IT. >> SPEAKER: I CANNOT RECALL AT THE MOMENT WHAT THAT IS. IT'S A STORAGE YARD OBVIOUSLY OF SOME KIND. I THINK IT HAD MAYBE LESS THAN A SUB. A LITTLE BETTER AERIAL.

NO, THAT'S THE SAME AERIAL. THE ZONING MAP DOESN'T GIVE US ANY HELP, EITHER. I GUESS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. IT'S PUD YOU CAN SEE IT HERE IN THIS TRIANGLE, IT'S PART OF THE

SHORES PUD. >> MR. MATOVINA: CAN STAFF SEE IF THAT'S A HOA-OWNED PARCEL? LET ME ASK MY SECOND QUESTION WHILE WE'RE AT IT. MY SECOND QUESTION, MR. BURNETT, IS I CAN'T REALLY READ ALL THOSE RED LINES.

>> SPEAKER: IT LOOKS LIKE BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

MAYBE IT'S BOAT AND RV STORAGE FOR THE SHORES.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

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I CAN'T REALLY READ THOSE RED LINES, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SOMEWHAT READ THOSE BEFORE. YOU DIDN'T HAPPEN TO BRING HARD

COPIES OF THOSE, DID YOU? >> SPEAKER: NO, SIR, BUT I DID EMAIL IT TO THE STAFF AND RESUBMITTED IT SO THEY HAVE COMPLETE COPIES. OBVIOUSLY, MS. UTTEREL KNOWS WHAT IT IS. BUT I CAN CERTAINLY READ IT OR READ PORTIONS OF IT, WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE.

>> . >> MR. MATOVINA: DOES ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD -- COULD YOU ALL READ THAT?

>> DR. HILSENBECK: NO. >> SPEAKER: IT COULD WOULD

TAKE ME THREE MINUTES TO DO IT. >> MR. MATOVINA: I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL OR YOU CAN AT LEAST BLOW IT UP ON THE SCREEN TO WHERE WE CAN READ IT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

OF COURSE, IF WE READ IT, IT MIGHT TAKE ME TEN MINUTES

BECAUSE YOU'RE A FAST READER. >> DR. HILSENBECK: HOW ABOUT

READING IT ALOUD. >> SPEAKER: THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THE FIRST PAGE IS THE PUD TECH AS IT ORIGINALLY EXISTED. PAGE 2 AND 3 ARE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO BELHAVEN. THE TIGHT SAYS "PHASE 3 AND 4 ISSUES RELATED TO BELHAVEN CONDOMINIUM.

A, STORM WATER. SUB A, THE DEVELOPER SHALL DESIGN THE STORM WATER SYSTEM FOR PHASES 3 AND 4 SO THAT BELHAVEN WILL SUFFER NO LOSS OF THE EXISTING STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE CAPACITY FROM BUILDING RUNOFF AND EAST YARD RUNOFF BASED UPON CURRENT CONDITIONS BEHIND BELHAVEN BUILDINGS 116 AND 120 CURRENTLY PROVIDED BY THE EXISTING STORM WATER POND ON THE PHASE 3, PHASE 4 PROPERTY. SUB B, PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE PHASE 3 AND PHASE 4, THE DEVELOPER'S STORM WARE ENGINEER SHALL CALCULATE THE CAPACITY OF THE EXISTING TOMORROW WATER POND TO ACCEPT STORM WATER AND STORAGE FROM BELL H5N2 AND SHALL DESIGN THE STORM WATER SYSTEM FOR PHASES THERE AND 4 TO HAVE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY AND STEP THE STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE FROM BUILDING RUNOFF AND EAST YARD RUNOFF BASED ON CURRENT CONDITIONS BEHIND BELHAVEN BUILDING 116 AND 120. THE DEVELOPER SHALL CONSTRUCT, INSTALL AND MAINTAIN ALL NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCEPT THE BUILDING RAWRCH AND EAST YARD RUNOFF BASED ON CURRENT CONDITIONS BEHIND BELLED HAFEN INTILGTDZ 116, 120.

SUB C, THE DEVELOPER SHALL LOIFD I PROVIDE A STER WATER EAST FOR THE BENEFITED OF BELHAVEN CONSTRUCTION, INC. FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OF PHASES 3 AND 4 SO THAT BELHAVEN MAY CONTINUE TO DISCHARGE STORM WATER FROM BUILDING RUNOFF AND EAST YARD RUNOFF BASED ON CURRENT KANSAS AT BELHAVEN BUILDINGS 116 AND 120 ON TO PHASE 3 AND PHASE 4 PROPERTY.

SUB D, BUFFER. AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THE DEVELOPER SHALL PROVIDE PLANTINGS WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE BUFFER LOCATED BETWEEN BELHAVEN CONDOMINIUM AND PHASE 3 AND 4 AS DEPICTED ON THE MDP MAP ACCORDING TO THE FOLLOWING MINIMUM STANDARD.

A, THE FOLLOWING IS A PLANTING -- IS THE PLANTING CRITERIA FOR SUCH EDGE VERY TAIF BUFFER.

SUB I, PLANT MATERIAL PER 100 LINEAL FEET AS FOLLOWS: 1, CAN'T FEE THREE, 52, UNDERSORRY TREE. 7-3.

EVER GREEN THREE. THE 3-4.

SHRUB ACCOUNT IS. SUB 2, TREE SHALL MEET THE FOGLE MINIMUM STANDARDS AT PLANTING. HEIGHT, 10 FEET.

2, CALIPER, 2-INCH. 3, CONTAINER, 25 GALLONS.

SUB 3. SHRUBS SHALL CONSISTENT WOODY PLANTS A MINIMUM OF 2 FEET IN HEIGHT AND A MINIMUM 3-GALLON CONTAINER PLANTED AT A MINIMUM SPACING OF 36 INCHES ON CENTER.

THE ABOVE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED IN AREAS WHERE UNDISTURBED NATURAL VEG TAKES EXISTS AND SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME OPACITY FOR OTHERWISE SERVES TO PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL AT THE SAME BUFFERING AND PROVIDED THE EQUIVALENT TREE CALIPER IS EXCEEDED. SUB C, ROADS.

AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THE DEVELOPER SHALL MAINTAIN AND KEEP CLEAN SOUTHWOOD LAKE DRIVE PAVEMENT, SIDEWALKS, AND SWALES AND RESTORE SOUTHWOOD LAKE DRIVE PAVEMENT, SIDEWALKS AND SWALES TO ITS PREDEVELOPED.

CONDITION UPON COMPLETION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF PHASES 3 AND 4.

THE DEVELOPER SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO IMPROVE, REPAIR, OTHERWISE CORRECT EXISTING CONDITIONS.

>> MR. MATOVINA: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

DR. HILSENBECK. >> DR. HILSENBECK: I WAS WONDERING, AFTER YOU READ THAT AND I COULD SEE IT -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH -- WHY -- IT SEEMS TO ME, OKAY, THE BELHAVEN PROPERTY IS PROTECTED PRETTY WELLAL BUT WHY DIDN'T YOU, WITH THE OTHER CONTIGUOUS HOMEOWNERS, ALSO NEGOTIATE OR HAVE A SIMILAR AGREEMENT IN PLACE? FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU MET WITH THE HOA IN JANUARY AND GOT APPROVAL, DID THEY WANT ANY KIND

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OF ASSURANCE LIKE THIS? AND IF I HAD ABOUT AN ON THE HOA, I THINK I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR IT.

AND SO I SEE BELHAVEN'S WELL PROTECTED, BUT CONTIGUOUS LANDOWNERS DON'T APPEAR TO BE, SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT Y'AL-

>> SPEAKER: I'LL LET PAUL WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE BUT THE THING I COULD WOULD TELL IS YOU, ONE, BELL HAFEN IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE ENTRANCE. THEY KNEW SOMETHING WAS GOING ON. WE WOUND UP CONTACTING THEM.

CB KG SET UP A MEETING TO TALK TO THEM.

AND THIS IS WHAT CAME FROM THAT. THEY HAD -- THEY'RE IN THE SAME PUD AS THIS ALREADY. THEY HAD STORM WATER CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THEIR CONDOMINIUM UNITS, 116 AND 120 THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS US, THEY HAD CONCERNED ABOUT, AND THEY KNEW OR AT LEAST THEY SUSPECT THAT STORM WATER FROM THEIR PROJECT IS COMING ONTO OUR PROJECT. YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THAT MEANS THEY DIDN'T PROPERLY ACCOUNT FOR THEIR STORM WATER.

THE REST OF OUR PROJECT, OUR PRE AND POST IS GOING TO MATCH.

IT DIDN'T HAVE A PRESSING ISSUE. FORT MASTER SOIFERTION SOUTHWOOD THERE BEATENS THIS KIND OF REQUEST -- WASN'T THIS KIND OF REQUEST THAT WE DO SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR THEM.

THE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE SPHOARCHG HERE TODAY ARE NOT FROM THE SAME PUD IMMEDIATE AREA.

THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY ABUTTING TO THE PROJECT ON THE EAST, BUT

THEY WEREN'T. >> THAT SAME AREA.

THERE'S NO KNOWN ISSUE OVER THERE.

OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE NO EXUSH AND GUTTER.

THEY HAVE SWALE, OLDER PROJECT. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ALL ENCOUNTER ON EACH ONE OF THEIR -- IN SEVERAL OF THE HOME IN THAT SECTION WHERE THE SPEAKERS ARE FROM IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SWALE AND NOT CURB AND GUTTER, THEY HAVE THE OLD-SCHOOL TYPE OF DRIVEWAY THAT DIPS DOWN TO HAVE A CONTINUATION OF THE SWALE ACROSS THEIR FRONT YARDS. AND SO THEIR DRIVEWAY DIPS DOWN.

WHEN THE SWALE FILLS UP WITH WATER, YOU HAVE DRIVEWAY IN YOUR WATER UNLESS YOU'RE ONE OF THE VERY FEW THAT PUT IN A CULVERT TO HAVE YOUR DRIVEWAY GO ACROSS SO IT'S A DIFFICULT KIND OF SCENARIO. OBVIOUSLY OUR PRE AND POST DISCHARGE OF TOMORROW IS WATER WILL BE CALCULATED TO MEET OR EXCEED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. SO WE DON'T BE SURCHARGING MORE WATER BEEP UNDER THAT REQUIREMENT.

THE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN HERE, EVEN AS MS. UTTERLY POINTED OUT, AS POINTED OUT THE IT IS ALREADY THE WHAT THE LANDDI GOAD CODE IS ON GOING TO REQUIRE.

THEY STATED IT AND WE HAVE AGREED TO IT.

YOU GET TO THE SAME POINT FOR THE MOST PART WHETHER THERE'S SPECIAL LANGUAGE IN OUR SEX TEXT OR NOT, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS GOING TO PROTECT THOSE OWNERS BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE THE TO DO THE ENGINEERING FOR OUR ENTIRE SITE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: OKAY. THAT WAS A GOOD ANSWER.

JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. MAYBE YOU DO NOT WANT TO ANSWER THIS. IT MAY BE CONFIDENTIAL.

SO IF IT IS, JUST TELL ME TO BUTT OUT.

BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WERE SPROSTLED IN ANY NOIRKSZ NOIKSZ TO ACQUIRE THIS -- NEGOTIATION TO ACQUIRE THIS

PROPERTY FROM THE CURRENT OWNER. >> SPEAKER: NO, SIR.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: IF I WAS, IT WAS VERY PERIPHERALLY. HOARP ASSOCIATION -- I MEAN OWNER'S AUTHORIZATION RELATED, NOT THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING

CONTRACT. >> DR. HILSENBECK: OKAY.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE AGENCY? IF NOT, WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> MS. PERKINS: . >> MR. CHAIR, MAY I COMMENT?

MAY I SPEAK? >> MR. MATOVINA: YES, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. THE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE FRPG TO DO WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE JUST READ INTO THE PRORD FROM MR. BURNETT IF IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO APPROVE THESE 53 IF YOU COULD PLEASE PUT A CAVEAT THAT STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO, THERE MIGHT BE THINGS THAT ARE IN CANINES WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS I DON'T KNOW. SOME OF THESE BUFFERS WITH THE TREE WIDTH AND IS THE CALIPERS OF THE TREES, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THESE.

SO JUST GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEM, AND THAT COULD PROBABLY HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW, WHATEVER YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TODAY, AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

MEETING. >> MR. MATOVINA: OH INCLUDE THOSE CONDITIONS SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT

DEPARTMENT. >> YES, SIR, IF YOU CHOOSE TO,

YES, SIR. >> MR. MATOVINA: MS. PERKINS.

>> MS. PERKINS: I'LL OFFER A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2123 SOUTH WOO PHASES 3 AND 4 BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS AS FULLY VACCINATED AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

TO INCLUDE THE ADD LANGUAGE RELATING TO THE BELHAVEN CONDOMINIUM AND THE MDP TEXAS PRESENTED TODAY SUBJECT TO AT THE SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MS. PERKS.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE'VE GOT A SECOND BY MR. PIERRE. DR. HILSENBECK, DISCUSSION.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: DISCUSSION. I'LL HAVE TO SAY THAT IF THIS

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PROJECT WAS BEING PROPOSED IN MY BACKYARD, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE HERE ALSO SPEAKING AGAINST IT, AND I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR SPEAKING AGAINST IT. I PERSONALLY GLEA THAT I K THE COUNTY HAS GOTTEN -- HAS APPROVED A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OVER THE PAST FEW DECADES, AND I THINK THAT'S EXAWNGS A LOT F ISSUES, PARTICULARLY OUT IN THE NORTHWESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, BUT -- AND I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND I'M THE FIRST PERSON TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST AND VOTE AGAINST THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE REALLY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON ROADS, THE ENVIRONMENT, WATER, SO FORTH, BUT I'LL HAVE TO SAY LINING AT THIS VERY CAREFULLY, I CAN'T FIND ANY REAL SIGNIFICANT REASONS TO VOTE AGAINST IT OTHER THAN THE PUBLIC OUTDRIE CRY AGAINST IT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IT AND I AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC OUTCRY ABOUT THIS PROJECT. BUT I CANNOT FIND A VALID REASON, AND I'M SAD TO SAY THIS, BUT I CANNOT FIND A VALID REASON TO VOTE AGAINST THIS. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT IT.

I'M GOING ON RECORD HERE. >> MR. MATOVINA: DR. HILSENBECK, I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU ASKED THE APPLICANT YOU. BASED ON MY 30-PLUS YEARS IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, THERE IS THIS REQUIREMENT FOR PRE AND POST, WHICH DEALS WITH THE WATER THAT FALLS ON YOUR SITE AND HOW YOU HANDLE IT BEFORE AND AFTER THEIN RAINFALL.

THERE IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT IN STATE LAW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I'VE BEEN VEXED BY THIS SEVERAL TIMES BY CIVIL ENGINEERS WHO DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT OR TAKE IT HAD INTO CONSIDERATION, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO CONTINUE TO ACCEPT AND PASS THROUGH OR TREAT WATER THAT'S COMING TO YOU, AND SO IF SOME OF THOSE OTHER BACKYARDS DRAIN TO THIS SITE CURRENTLY OFF THE

[6. PUD 21-17 County Road 210 W Mixed Use PUD. Request to rezone approximately 14.96 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow a maximum of 262,000 square feet of commercial, office, educational, and assisted living uses. ]

HOUSES, THIS DEVELOPER, AND I BELIEVE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL HOLD HIM TO MAKING SURE THAT HE CONTINUES TO ACCEPT THAT WATER AND DOES NOT BLOCK IT.

SO IT WORKS BOTH WAYS. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT IT COMING TO YOU AND WHAT'S LEAVING YOUR SITE SOUTH BAY I UNDERSTAND II UNDERSTAND IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? IF NOT 1 LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6.

AND I'M NOT GOING IS TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO SAY MR. MICHAEL'S NAME. IS THE PREVENT FORE ITEM NUMBER 6 HERE? IS THE PRESENTER FOR ITEM NUMBER 6 HERE? GOOD EVENING.

AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MICHAEL SZNAPSTAJLER WITH COBB COAL 941 SOUTH RIDGEWOOD AVENUE IN DAUNT BEACH. ON BLASTCO APPLICANTS.

>> MR. MATOVINA: COULD Y'ALL PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR CONVERSATION OUTSIDE. JUST GIVE US A SECOND HERE, SIR.

>> SPEAKER: NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU

>> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT. COULD YOU SAY THAT LAST NAME

SLOWLY? >> SPEAKER: ABSOLUTELY.

SNAP SNAPS SNAPPAL TEMPER.

ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND THE DIOCESE OF ST. AUGUSTINE, WE DO HAVE OUR PROJECT TEAM HERE TODAY, REPRESENTATIVES OF DIOCESE ARE HERE, REPRESENTATIVES THE SENIOR LIVING HAVE ALSO COME IN TO ATTEND.

I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE JESSICA TO STAT OUR PRESENTATION AND I'LL COME IN IN A COUPLE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: BEFORE THE PRESENTATION CONTINUES, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE?

THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

JESSICA WITH THE COP CO-LAW FIRM DAYTONA BEACH, FLORIDA.

HERE TWEER TO TALK ABOUT A PUD REZONING REQUEST FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 220 WEST MIXED USE PUD. MICHAEL SZNAPSTAJLER, JESSICA WITH CAP COLE OVER IN DAYTONA BEACH.

WE BROUGHT THE RAIN OVER I THINK WITH US SO I APOLOGIZE BUT WE'RE ALL SAFE AND DRY IN HERE. JUST WANTED TO START WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PRESENTATION WILL COVER.

I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY AND PROJECT LOCATION. MICHAEL WILL BALK TALK WITH

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THREW THE PROPOSED PLAN RENDER EXNGS DID PROJECT COMPATIBILITY AND IMPACT ANALYSIS. SO THE PROPERTY, AND PEOPLE SHOW YOU A MAP HERE IN A MINUTE, IS JUST ABOUT 15 ACRES NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 210 AND RICHARD GLENN DRIVER.

THERE'S A MIX OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE. THE EXISTING FACILITIES INCLUDE A EDUCATIONAL FACILITY, THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER IS THERE ON THE SITE AND THERE IS AN APPROVED ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THERE IS A VACANT OUT-PARCEL THAT'S ABOUT 2.3 ACRES THAT YOU'LL SEE THE ON THE SITE PLAN WHEN WE GET THERE. ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OPEN RURAL. WE'RE REQUESTING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL C WHICH ALLOWS THOSE RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES. THE GOAL FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM THE PROJECT TEAM AND THE APPLICANTS THAT WE HAVE WITH US TODAY HAS BEEN TO CREATE IFNED COULDN'T INTERGENERATIONAL PROJECT,Y IS YOU'VE GOT THE EARLY LEARNING IS THERE BE CENTER, THE THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AND YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT OUR PROPOSED OUT-PARCEL THAT WILL BE A SWIM SCHOOL, GOLDFISH SWIM SCHOOL, SO WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INNER GEE WHERE THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER AND THE SWIM SCHOOL WILL OPERATE TOGETHER AND YOU HAVE THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, SO YOU'VE GOT ELDER MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY THERE IN ENCLOSES PROXIMITY SO YOU CAN VISIT, PICK UP THE KIDS FROM SCHOOL, GO VISIT GRANDMA AND GRANDPA, TO GO SWIM LOANS AND HAVE THAT CENTRAL CORE THERE.

SO THIS IS A LOCATION MAP. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED. IT'S IN BETWEEN THE ST. JOHN AND ST. JOHN COMMERCIAL ON THE CORNER THERE.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS OPE RURAL. THE SURROUNDING AREAS MOSTLY DESIGNATED A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.

AND THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL C.

PSYC THE MIXED USE DISTRICT AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE HEAVIER USES. HERE WE'RE FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES. THIS SAYS THE EXISTING SITE LAYOUT SO WE'RE LOOKING A REALLY THE SQUARE SHAPE HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER THERE ON THE FRONT AND THE THE MAIN ACCESS ROAD, AND THEN WE'LL GIVE AUN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE PLAN. SO YOU CAN SEE MATERIALLY LEARNING CENTER WILL STAY. THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY HAS BEEN APPROVED. ON THE BACK HALF THERE YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING OUTLINE, THE LARGE STORM WATER POND, AND THEN THE OUT PARCEL PLANNED FOR THE FRONT THERE ALONG COUNTY ROAD 210. THIS IS ONE MAIN ACCESS ROAD THAT ALL THE LOTS WOULD SCHOOL BUS AND THERE'S A PROPOSED EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT WOULD GO TO GLENN.

SECONDARY ACCESS WITNESS JUST EMERGENCY.

AND WITH THAT SITE PLAN I WILL TURN IT OVER THE TO MIKE MIKK

SPECIFICS. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, JESSICA. ONCE AGAIN FOR RECORD MICHAEL SZNAPSTAJLER WITH COBB COLE. WHAT'S KIND UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS YOU'VE GOT THREE MAIN USES WUL IN VARIOUS STAGES OF OPERATION. YOU'VE GOT THE EARLY.

>>> YES CENTER THAT WILL TOUCH ON BRIEFLY THAT'S ALREADY IN OPERATION BUILT IN OPENING IN 2015, 2016.

WE HAVE THE BLAKE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHEN WAS APPROVED UNDER THE OPEN RURAL ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAT HAS CONSTRUCTION PERMITS IN HAND NOW.

MOVING FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SWIM SCHOOL THAT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY.

SO THE BLAQUE AT ST. JOHNS IS A 115,000 SCARE FOOT FACILITY, 118 UNITS, 137 BEDS. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS PROJECT APPROVED UNDER THE OPEN RURAL ZONING.

CONSTRUCTION PERMITS HAVE BEEN ISSUED.

IT MEETS ALL POLITICAL SCENIC EDGE, DEVELOPMENT EDGE, SETBACK BUFFER, LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THE SITE-SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT EDGE, I. LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE. THIS IS AN EXANL PELL OF SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT THE APPLICANT QSL OWNS AND OPERATES THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST. THERE'S A FACILITY IN THE SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION IN 2014 BUT THEY HAVE FACILITIES IN PANAMA BEACH, MIRAMAR BEACH, BILOXI, LOUISIANA, THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, VIRGINIA AND TENNESSEE. I THINK WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THEIR FACILITIES IS THEY REALLY TOOK A STEP BACK AND LOOKED AT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE AREA SO THAT THE 30A FILL THE IN MIRAMAR BEACH HAS THAT COASTAL KIND OF DESIGN TO IT YOU SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORN OF CORS SLIDE.

THE ANALYTICAL IN THE BLUE PINE RIDGE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA HAS A LITTLE MORE OF THAT JEFFREY SOWNIAN STIFLE ARCHITECTURE. AND THEN WHAT BETTER FOR THIS PART OF FLORIDA THAN SPANISH RENAISSANCE ARCHITECTURE.

SO THE TILE ROOFS, THE UNIQUE FEATURES.

THIS IS THE ELEVATION PLAN FOR THE FACILITY HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE AMENITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE

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FACILITY. THEY HAVE BOTH MEMORY CARE UNITS AND ASSISTED LIVING UNITS, SO THEY HAVE THE TYPES OF RESOURCES, PHYSICAL THERAPY, DOCTOR MEETING ROOMS THAT'S NEEDED FOR THOSE TYPES OF RESIDENTS.

THERE'S A REHAB CENTER AS WELL. BUT THERE'S ALSO A REALLY NICE SCREENING AREAS,, INC. DOO AREAS, CAFES, LOUNGES, AND OPEN SPACE AS WELL FOR RESIDENTS OF THE FACILITY.

AND THIS FIGURE JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE ELEVATION SUPER IMPOSED ON THAT 210 ENTRANCE. YOU CAN SEE THE SCENIC EDGE AND THE PLANTINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL. AND WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES, AGAIN, OF QSL, THE BLAKE HERE, SO IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC FACILITY, WE CAN CERTAINLY TURN IT OVER TO THEM. I DID WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER THAT IS EXISTING.

IT'S AGAIN AS A PRE-COOL FACILITY FOR INFANTS THROUGH FOUR-YEAR-OLDS. THEY ARE ACCREDITED BY THE CATHOLIC CONFERENCE. THE FACILITY OPENED IF 2016 AND THEY DO PROVIDE A CATHOLIC CHILD CARE FACILITY WITH AN EMPHASIS ON EMOTIONAL, SOCIAL, PHYSICAL, SPIRITUAL AND INTELLECTUAL GROWTH FOR YOUNG CHILDREN. REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DIOCESE ARE HERE TODAY AS WELL IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR FACILITY. AND THEN THE PROPOSED OUT-PARCEL IS AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY THAT IS CALLED THE GOLDFISH SWIM SCHOOL, AND I'D LIKE TO BRING UP PAT AND KATE MURPHY WHO ARE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPERS OF THAT FACILITY JUST TO TALK BRIEFLY WITH THE ABOUT THE SWIM SCHOOL AND WHAT HAPPENS

AT THEIR PROJECT >> AND GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M MICHAEL'S LAST NAME MINE IS EASY TO PRONOUNCE, PAT MURPHY.

MY WIFE KATIE MURPHY IS BACK HERE.

WE ARE LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF STN ST. JOHN.

WE LIVED IN PONT SINCE 1999. NOT PRESENT HERE TODAY IS OUR SON RYAN. RYAN MURPHY IS AN OLYMPIC SWIMMER. HE ATTEND PALMER CATHOLIC ACADEMY. HE WENT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN HE WENT TO COLLEGE AT UC BERKELEY.

RYAN, HE'S STILL SWIMMING. HE WAS AT THE TOKYO OLYMPICS LAST SUMMER IN RIO. HE'S A SICK TIME OR FOUR TIME GOLD MEDALIST, TWO WORLD RECORDS, AND IS PLANNING FOR THE 2024 PARIS GAMES. RYAN IS INVOLVED WITH GOLDFISH SWIM EXPOOL. IT'S A NATIONAL RAIN CHAIN.

IT'S A FRANCHISE. THEY HAVE 127 STORES THROUGHOUT THE U.S. TODAY THAT ON A WEEKLY BASIS THEY'RE TEACHING INFANT SURVIVAL, UTTER WA SAFETY AND LIFE SKILLS TO 175,000 CHILDREN FROM AGES FOUR MONTHS THROUGH AGE 12.

IT'S A PROIRTD PRIORITY CRICK PLUMB AS MICHAEL SAID THIS IS AN INDOOR FACILITY SO OOH NOT OVERWHELMING.

IT'S ABOUT AN 8,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, SINGLE STORY.

THE POOL IS INDOOR AND IT'S A SELF-CONTAINED AREA WHERE THE POOL WATER AND THE AIR TEMPERATURE IS 90 DEGREES.

SO IT'S A VERY NICE VIEMPLE FOR A ENVIRONMENT FOR A YOUNG CHILD TO LEARN SAFETY SKILLS GO TO THE NEXT PAGE HERE ON THIS.

THERE WE GO. SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE INDOOR FACILITY AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S -- THE POOL AREA IS ALL SECURED, CLOSED OFF, SO THERE'S A GALLERY VIEWING WHERE THE PARENTS WOULD BE. SO THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE A PARENT IS DROPPING OFF A CHILD AND LEAVING.

THEY'RE STAYING THERE. EITHER THEY'RE GETTING IN THE WATERED WITH THE CHILD BASED ON THE AGE, AND THE CURRICULUM THAT WE'RE IN OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING FROM THE SIDE.

THERE IS AIT LITTLE SMALLER RETAIL PORTION THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE BUILDING AND THAT'S JUST FOR CHILDREN IF THEY NEED A SWIM DIAPER OR GOING ALSO GOR BUT IT'S ANCILLARY TO THE SWIM LESSONS THAT WE PROVIDED HAVE PROVIDE.

THAT WAS IT ON THE PAGE THERE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MY ADDRESS IS 441 EAST WOODHAVEN DRIVE, PONTE VEDRA BEACH, 30282.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, PAT. ONCE AGAIN FOR THE RECORD MICHAEL SZNAPSTAJLER WITH COBB COLE.

I DID WANT TO GO OVER THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT WITH YOU FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE. 2 ACRES OF ISOLATED WETLANDS WERE AUTHORIZED FOR IMPACT, PERMITTED FOR IMPACT A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BLAKE FACILITY.

THIS PUD DOES NOT FROM. ANY NEW OR ADDITIONAL WETLANDS IMPACTS. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE USE,

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THE ASSISTED LIVING USE, THE EARLY EDUCATIONAL CENTER AND THE SWIM SCHOOL. THEY DON'T TEND TO BE HEAVY TRAFFIC GENERATORS LIKE MORE RETAIL OR MORE TRADITION A RESIDENTIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS AVAILABLE UTILITIES AT THE SITE. WE WORKED THROUGH THAT THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENTS PROCESS THROOR THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, AND THERE IS EXISTING CAPACITY TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED SWIM SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THE DIOCESE SCHOOL IS THERE. IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED.

IT'S BEEN OPERATING FOR OVER SIX YEARS NOW.

WITH RESPECT TO SCHOOLS, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON SCHOOLS AS A RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CONTEMPLATED THAT WOULD HAVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL OR PUBLIC SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN THERE. IF THAT WERE TO EVER HAPPEN, BECAUSE OF A CHANGE IN USE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'D OVAL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOARD REVIEW PROCESS IN FUTURE.

THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE ABOUT 3.75 ACRES OF OPEN PACE SOASHED WITH THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

THERE'S A LARGE STORM WATER POND WITH SOME WALKING AREAS AND THINGS AROUND THERE, AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL WAS RECREATIONAL AREAS FOR THE CHILDREN AND OBVIOUSLY THE INDOOR SWIM SCHOOL IS A RECREATIONAL USE AS WELL.

WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MINOR WAIVERS IN THIS PUD.

THE FIRST ONE IS ONE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IS REQUIRED BUT WE JUST ARE DOING IT AS A PRECAUTION BECAUSE OF THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY. THERE IS A PROVISION OF CODE THAT SAYS NO ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SERVICE WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF A SCHOOL. THE DAYCARE TECHNICALLY DOESN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF A SCHOOL, BUT THE SENIORS DO HAVE BEER AND WINE SOMETIMES WITH THEIR MEALS. THERE IS A PIANO BAR IN THERE, SO WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WAIVER BECAUSE THE FACILITY IS WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER.

THE SECOND WAIVER IS WITH RESPECT TO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN DETAILS. THAT REALLY ONLY APPLIES TO THE OUT-PARCEL OF THE PROPOSED SKIM SWIM SCHOOL.

THEY CONTINUE COME IN WITH A SITE SPECIFIC PLAN YET FOR THAT FACILITY BUT IT WILL BE COMING IN BEHIND THIS PUD.

BUT THE MASTER PLAN IS THERE. PERMITS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR BOTH THE SCHOOL OBVIOUSLY AND THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WE SPEAK.

AND THEN THE FINAL WAIVER IS A MINOR ONE WITH RESPECT TO LANDSCAPE BETWEEN THE PERIMETER BUFFERS OF THE USES.

BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS EXISTING RIGHT NOW AND BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE USES, THE ABILITY, YOU KNOW, TO WALK FROM THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER TO THE SWIM SCHOOL OR THE ABILITY FOR THE SENIORS TO COME TO THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER AND READ TO CHILDREN OR VICE VERSA, WE WANT TO KEEP THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE VEHICULAR USE AREAS WAIVED FOR THIS SPECIFIC PUD.

THEN WITH RESPECT TO COMPATIBILITY, I THINK THAT THE NEXT SLIDE WILL DO A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING HOW THIS FITS IN WITH THE AREA AROUND IT. IT'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE USES AROUND IT. BUT WE SEE THIS AS AN INFILL PROJECT THAT'S ROUND EVERRING OUT THE MIX OF USES IN THE AREA.

YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG CRUN COUNTY ROAD 210.

WE SEE THIS AS A SUPPORT USE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS EAR. THE ABILITY TO HAVE A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY LIVE AT THE BLAKE IN CLOSE POLITICS I MEAN TO YOUR HOME, THE ABILITY FOR THE CHILDREN TO GO TO THE EARLY LEARNING CENTER OR THE SWIM SCHOOL FOR SWIM LESSONS.

AGAIN, THEY'RE ALL LOW TRAFFIC GENERATORS, LOW DEMAND ON INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ONE OF THE SUPPORT USES THAT WE THINK AGAIN FITS IN REALLY WELL WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

SO THIS FIGURE DOES KIND OF SHOW WHAT'S SURROUNDING THIS SITE IN THIS AREA, SO THE PUD PARCEL IS RECTANGULAR SHAPE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS TO OUR EAST AND WEST, SOME LARGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OUR EAST, AND THEN AT THE INTERSECTION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARKWAY AND 210 SOME ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. WE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF USES WOULD BE GOOD HERE IN THIS PUD, AND AGAIN WE THINK IT HELPS SUPPORT THAT LIVE, WORK, PLAY TYPE -- AND LEARN ENVIRONMENT. AND SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL ON THIS PUD, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR PROJECT TEAM HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

TIME. >> MR. MATOVINA: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DR. HILSENBECK.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I JUST HAVE A COUPLE.

YOUR 2.01 ACRES OF WETLAND IMPACTS, WHERE DO YOU PLAN TO

MITIGATE THOSE? >> SPEAKER: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE MITIGATION HAS ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED THROUGH

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THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN A LOCAL BASIN.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE 3.75 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS NO WAY TO DESIGN THIS TO WHERE SOME OF THAT OPEN SPACE

COULD HAVE BEEN THE WETLANDS? >> AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IS HERE AND HE CAN SPEAK TO TO THAT BUT I THINK IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERHEAD MAP YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WETLANDS SAT.

THE WETLANDS ARE ALONG -- >> DR. HILSENBECK: THAT SLIDE YOU JUST SKIPPED PAST WAS PRETTY GOOD, THE AERIAL VIEW.

>> SPEAKER: SO THE WET DGED WERE PRIMARILY LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND THE DRAINAGE IS ALONG JOHN'S GLEN WHICH IS THE ROAD TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, AND SO THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE PONDS WERE THAT WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT DOES CREATE A BUFFER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER THERE AS WELL.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE FACILITY IS SITED.

WE LETTERS HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE REQUIREMENTS, 35 FEET AND ALL THAT, AND THOSE KIND OF INTERSECTED WITH THE WETLANDS.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: IT LIKED LOOKED LIKE YOUR WET DGED WERE AROUND THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AND THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE

PROPERTY. >> SPEAKER: CORRECT HIENCHTS JUST CURIOUS -- THIS IS FOR MY OWN PERSONAL EDUCATION, EVER -- YOU MANSION EVER MENTIONED WITH THE CHARACTER AND CHARGE ARE FLORIDA 30A COAT OF COMMUNITIES, THAT YOU TRIED TO MIMIC WITH THIS. 30A, WHAT IS THAT MEAN TO YOU?

>> SPEAKER: THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT IN MIRAMAR BEACH IS OF ARCHITECTURE ALONG THE CORRIDOR THERE, AND SO THAT SPECIFIC.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: MIRAMAR, YOU'RE NOT TALKING IN SAY, FRANKLIN OR GULF COUNTIES, FLORIDAOR ST. JOHN, A LOT OF

PROPERTY. >> SPEAKER: IT'S THAT GRATON BEACH, THAT AREA AROUND THAT PART.

BUT AGAIN FOR THIS SPECIFIC FACILITY --

>> DR. HILSENBECK: THANK YOU. SORRY.

DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE. >> DR. HILSENBECK: I WAS JUST

CURIOUS. >> MR. MATOVINA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY.

WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

DR. MCCORMICK. >> DR. MCCORMICK: I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION WITHIN THE

AGENCY. >> MR. MATOVINA: WE'RE READY

FOR A MOTION. >> DR. MCCORMICK: ALL RIGHT.

MY MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2021-17 COUNTRY ROAD 220 WEST MIX USE PUD, A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 14.96 ACRES OF LAND FROM OPEN RURAL TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF 262,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, OFFICE, EDUCATIONAL, AND ASSISTED LIVING USES BASED UPON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY DR. MCCORMICK. IS THERE A SECOND? SECO

[7. COMPAMD 2021-10 SilverLeaf DRI (Adoption). A request to amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map from Rural/Silviculture (R/S) and Agricultural Intensive (A-I) to Residential A, Residential C, and Commercial for approximately 2,394 acres of land located in the northwest portion of St. Johns County, generally south of the planned First Coast Expressway and east of Trout Creek. The additional 2,394 acres of land is being added into the existing SilverLeaf DRI. The applicant has further proposed a Text Amendment to limit development timing and density on certain parcels. This is a Second Adoption Hearing due to the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity (DEO) determining the application required a State Coordinated Review rather than the Expedited State Review. On December 21, 2021, the Board of County Commissioners retransmitted the amendment for a State Coordinated Review. This Coordinated State Review was completed February 16, 2022 with no additional comments being provided.]

>> MR. MATOVINA: MS. SMITH, ARE YOU READY?

>> SPEAKER: GET MYSELF TOGETHER MERE FOR A PERSISTENT.

GOOD AFTERNOON. FOR THE RECORD ELLEN AVERY-SMITH. ROGERS TOWERS, 100 WHETSTONE PLACE HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. WITH ME TODAY ARE A HOST OF FOLKS. ONE, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT SILVERLEAF, AND ONLY THE PREVENT PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION, SO THIS BORE WILL RECALL THAT BACK IN EARLY DECEMBER WE CAME TO YOU WERE THREE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.

ONE WAS THIS COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT ILK PLKS IMS THE IDENTICAL APPLICATION.

WE HAVE NOT CHANGED ONE WORD IN THIS APPLICATION SINCE YOUR BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION OF THIS APPLICATION BACK IN DECEMBER. ACCOMPANYING THIS APPLICATION WAS A DRI MODIFICATION APPLICATION AND A PUD MODIFICATION APPLICATION, ALL THREE OF WHICH AGAIN WERE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY YOUR BOARD BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 1.

THE COUNTY COMMISSION SUBSEQUENTLY IN DECEMBER APPROVED ALL THREE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS.

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BECAUSE OF A PROCEDURAL ISSUE WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY THAT I'LL GO THROUGH WITH YOU IN JUST A MINUTE, WE ARE BACK MERE BECAUSE THEY WANTED A LOREN TERM, A SCCTD-DAY REVIEW VERSUS A 30-DAY REVIEW UNDER THE FLORIDA YOU LASSO WE HAVE NOW GONE THROUGH THAT ACCOUNT IS-DAY REVIEW AND I WILL TELL YOU THE RESULTS OF THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT BEFORE I GET STARTED, OBVIOUSLY THE HUDSON COMPANIES ARE THE DEVELOPER OF SILVERLEAF UNDER THE NAME OF WHITE'S WOARD.

CODY HUDSON AND JOHN METCALF FROM THAT GROUP ARE HERE WITH ME TODAY. ALSO WITH ME TODAY ARE JEFF CRAMMEN AND RAY SPOFFORD AND BRAD WEAVER AND ENGLAND, TIMMS AND MILLER SO IF WE NEED HELP WITH CIVIL ENGINEERING SCWB TRAFFIC OR PLANNING ENGINEERING THEY ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

SO GOING BACK TO THE STATE AGENCIES, AGAIN, IT WAS ALL TRIGGERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY NOT GREIG WITH OUR AGREEING WITH OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW ABOUT HOW AN EXISTING DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER MODIFICATION WAS TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW.

AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE REVIEW IS ONE IS 30 DAYS AND ONE IS 60 DAYS. SO WE HAVE GONE -- AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING, THE COUNTY COMMISSION SAID, WE VOTE TO ADOPT THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT IF FOR SOME REGION DEO OBJECTS, TRANSMIT THE SAME APPLICATION TO THE STATE AGENCIES FOR THIS LONGER-TERM CALLED STATE COORDINATED REVIEW.