[12. Public Hearing * DRI MOD 2021-05 World Commerce Center. Request to modify the World Commerce Center Development of Regional Impact (DRI) to amend the project phasing consistent with the Legislative extensions, revise reporting requirements, update the Master Plan Map (Map H) for consistency with the Planned Unit Development (PUD) Master Development Plan (MDP), revise the Land Use Conversion Tables, and revise the Transportation Improvements Map. The World Commerce Center DRI is generally located south of International Golf Parkway and north of SR 16. The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended approval with a 6-0 vote at its March 3, 2022 meeting.]

TABLE TO APPROVE THE REGULAR AGENDA, WE NEED A VOTE.

>> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

THAT PASSES. NUMBER 12.

GOOD MORNING. AND FOR THE RECORD ELLEN AVERY SMITH ROGERS TOWERS. I APPRECIATE THE MOVE ON THE AGENDA. I AM ONE PERSON, I HAVE ACTUALLY TWO HEARINGS AT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TODAY ONE OF WHICH THIS AFTERNOON AND I LITERALLY CANNOT BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONE TIME I APPRECIATE THE SCHEDULE CHANGE I WILL BE VERY BRIEF.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF WORLD COMMERCE CENTER WHICH IS A 20-YEAR-OLD DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT KNOWN AS THE DRI. THAT OWNER AND DEVELOPER WORLD COMMERCE CENTER, LLC AND AND THE ENTITIES IS HERE WITH ME TODAY. OUR LAND PLANNER IS PROSSER.

TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND. WORLD COMMERCE.

>> I'M SORRY. AGAIN A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THUS IS QUASI JUDICIAL. WE HAD HOLD YOUR THOUGHTS FOR A

SECOND. >> THANK YOU.

>>> NUMBER 1 QUASI JUDICIAL. 12.

NUMBER 12, JEREMIAH. >> I'M MET ON MONDAY, APRIL 4TH AT 1:30 P.M. WITH MR. MIKE SILAS AND MARK SCOTT REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THEY HAVE COMING UP WITH IT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.

>> ON THURSDAY THE 31ST I MET WITH ELLEN AVERY SMITH AND MIKE SILAS MONDAY APRIL FOURTH I MET WITH MARK SILAS AND THE DISCUSSED THE ENTITLEMENTS WITH THE DRI AND THE DESIRE TO CHANGE AROUND SOME OF THE ENTITLES AND NOT RESULT IN ANY ADDITIONAL TRIPS WHICH WAS MY MAIN CONCERN.

>> YESTERDAY ON MONDAY APRIL 4TH AT 11 A.M. I MET WITH MICHAEL SILAS AND MICHAEL SCOTT AND WE DISCUSSED THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, THE SCOPE AND ANY TRAFFIC IMPACTS; BACK TO YOU.

>> YOU'RE IN CHARGE. >> TRY TO BE.

>> SO FAR SO GOOD. ARE YOU DOING A GREAT JUGGLING ACT. SO AS MANY OF YOU KNOW WORLD COMMERCE CENTER IS THE DRI'S 20 YEARS OLD.

IT IS A PRIMARILY NON-RESIDENTIAL DRI SO IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT SLOW IN TAKING UP AND BETWEEN INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND SOUTHWEST OF I-95.

SO AGAIN THE DRI INCLUDES ABOUT 1.3 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SERVICE, 2.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE.

9950 HOTEL ROOMS AND HALF A MILLION OF SPACE AND 1 1271 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AND WORLD COMMERCE IS HOME TO RING POWER CORPORATION WHICH IS A LOCAL COMPANY, AND THE STATE VETERAN'S NURSING HOME. THERE IS A SHOPPING CENTER UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT ROAD 16 RIGHT NOW.

COSTCO IS ADVANCING IN ITS CONSTRUCTION AND BE IN WORLD COMMERCE CENTER. THIS IS A BUSINESS LANDING PAD THAT FINALLY IS GETTING LEGS, IF YOU WILL.

SO, WHAT WE'RE DOING. THIS DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS NOT BEEN AMENDED SINCE 2014. WE'RE CLEANING UP THE DRI TO REFLECT PHASING, UPDATING. EXTENSIONS BASED ON DECLARATIONS THAT KIND OF THING WHICH HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY LAW. WE ARE GENERAL CONDITION 10 TO UPDATE THE REQUIREMENTS AND BASED ON CHANGES IN STATE LAW.

AND THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH I'LL SHOW NEW A MOMENT TO UPDATE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE PUD.

WE HAVE REVISED THE PUD BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE RELATED CHANGES

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TO THE DRI UNTIL TODAY. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING WITH EXHIBIT 3. AND EXHIBIT 7 FOR TRANSPORTATION. THE BIG REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY TO LITERALLY CHANGE THE LAND USE CONVERSION TABLE.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IN DRI DEVELOPMENT ORD ORS, INCLUDING THIS ONE, DEVELOPERS CAN CONVERT BASED ON TRIPS THE NUMBER OF, WE ASK TO DO CONVERT A MILLION AND A HALF OF SQUARE FEET AND THAT MARKET IS GOOD. A GOOD JOB CREATOR AND HIGH PAYING JOB. WAGE JOB CREATOR FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. IT IS ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER TO EXCHANGE THE EXISTING OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN CASE THE MARKET DICK KATES THAT NEED.

THAT'S THE BIG SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED THROUGH LEGISLATIVE EXTENSION OR THAT KIND OF THING. WE'RE UPDATING THE WATER LANGUAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH ST. JOHNS UTILITY DEPARTMENT.

HERE IS THE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING REVISIONS TO TRACK THE PUD CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THE TRANSPORTATION MAP WHAT IS COMPLETED. WE HAVE BEEN TO PCA A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THIS AND SO WE REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE DRI MODIFICATION WE'RE ANSWERING WHATEVER

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> QUESTIONS FOR THE

APPLICANT? >> PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 12. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> YOU MAY HAVE TO HIT THE

BUTTON. THANK YOU. >> NOW CAN YOU HEAR.

AND 1005 BLACKBERRY LANE. JOE MACK PERSON INNY.

CAN WE ENLARGE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

IT IS HARD TO READ. I HAVE TAKEN THESE FINDINGS OF FACT OUT OF THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION.

AND IT STATES WORLD COMMERCE CENTER IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SECONDLY IT SAYS WORLD COMMERCE CENTER DRI IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ST. JOHNS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE HAVE HEARD THOSE CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT WISHES TO MAKE AT THIS TIME. A FEW CHANGES.

AND I AM RECALLING, I THINK OVER 200 PAGES WORTH OF APPLICATION AND SUBMITTALS. WE HEARD THAT THE DRI WAS APPROVED 20 YEARS AGO. SO, THERE IS A LOT IN THERE AND THE APPLICANT HAS BROUGHT FORWARD THE CHANGES THAT THEY WISH TO MAKE. BUT BURIED IN THE 200-PLUS PAGES FROM 20 YEARS AGO IS A REQUIREMENT, IF YOU WILL, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT IS COMPLICATED I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE WHOLE THINK I CAN TELL YOU THAT SNO CONE IS LOOKING TO FIND ANYTHING AND WAS UNAWARE OF THIS.

AND CURRENTLY THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SUPPOSED TO, THE REGULATIONS OPERATING WITH. AND IF THEY ARE BUT IMPORTANT PEOPLE WHO SHOULD KNOW, DON'T QUITE KNOW AND I'M HERE TO SAY THAT THE APPLICANT ITSELF HAS OPENED THE DOOR TO MAKING CHANGES TO THE DRI. IT SHOULD BE JUST A PROFESSIONAL STEP THAT THE COUNTY THEN HAS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ALL SECTIONS OF THE DRI AND MAKE SURE THAT INDEED THEY ARE UPDATED ALL SECTIONS AND THAT THEY DO COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE CAN STAND HERE RIGHT NOW AND SAY OVER 200 WAGES DO I POINT THAT OUT AS A GOOD PROCEDURE MOVING FORWARD I

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URGE YOU TO CONTINUE ACTUALLY CONTINUE THIS REQUEST NOT APPROVE THE REQUEST BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME GAPS AND HOLES THAT WE CANNOT SAY WITH CERTAINTY THAT THE DRI IS IN

COMPLIANCE. >> THANK YOU.

>>> PLEASE PROVIDE THOSE PAPERS TO THE STAFF.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM? >> CHUCK LOBNOWSKI.

TO FOLLOW UP ON THE COMMENT ABOUT THE LOW INCOME HOUSING.

IT NOT ONLY STATES LOW INCOME BUT VERY LOW INCOME.

THIS IS A NEED THAT'S IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT BEFORE WE CHANGE THINGS.

THEY HAVE NOT UPHELD THEIR PART OF THE PROGRAM. IT IS SERRING THE IMPACT AND WILL BE HAPPENING BY THE TIME THE APARTMENTS ARE GONE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE TRAFFIC ISSUES. WE'RE LOOKING AT NOTHING BEING DONE BY THE CENTER UNTIL THEY ARE DONE WITH PHASE 3MENT PHASE 3 THEY SAID THE LAST MEETING AND AS FAR AS 2032 BEFORE ANYTHING IS DONE WITH THE IMPACTS OF THE AREA.

I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE HELD OFF UNTIL THEY UPHOLD THEIR PROGRAM AND BRINGS IT UP AT A LATER DATE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A

PUBLIC COMMENT? >> GOOD MORNING.

SHERRY BADGER 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE.

GUYS, THIS IS A BAIT AND SWITCH.

YOU HAVE NO OBLIGATIONS UNLESS THEY FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATIONS. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> BJ CALADI. 9:52.

>> I'M GLAD SOMEONE THE OTHER PEOPLE BROUGHT UP THE SAME THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A TRANSPORTATION WE HAD A GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP AND SALES TAX TO TAKE CARE OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE INCURRED.

AND NOW WHATS THE DEVELOPER DONE STARTS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS. DOES THE DEVELOPER AND THE LAWYER NOT HAVE TO BECAUSE OF WHAT THE LAST GENTLEMAN SAID.

WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU WE SHOULD CONTINUE IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T GET WITH MR. WALDRON, TOO.

LET'S GET THIS CONTINUED TO A DATE CERTAIN AND THEN THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU CAN BE ANSWERED NOT TODAY BUT LATER ON TODAY AT A MEETING THAT YOU CONTINUE. AGAIN WE'RE ALMOST AT 10:00.

WE PUTTING ITEM 3 BEFORE 1 AND 2.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?

>> SEEING NO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE

ITEM. >> GOOD MORNING, BRIEFLY.

IF YOU READ PAGE 34 OF THE ORDER WARP TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT SAYS DONATE TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CONSISTING OF 12 DEVELOPABLE ACRES WITHIN 60 DAYS OF REQUEST OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

AND THE VA IS ON THAT. THAT HAS BEEN MET.

AND IN THE PAGES AND THE SECTION OF THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER. AND TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ARE PIPELINE, IF YOU READ THROUGH THIS.

>> I'M POINTING TO 26 WHEN YOU READ THROUGH YOU WILL SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS LISTED. THEY ARE TO BE DONE.

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THEY ARE COMPLETED. AND SO, AGAIN GOING FORWARD TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN ROADS, ONCE CONSTRUCTED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD WAS TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF DECEMBER 1, 2026. THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

THE DEVELOPER SHALL DESIGNATE THE FIRST ENTRANCE AS THE ENTRANCE THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

I WILL NOT READ THESE TO YOU. I'M NOTING INTO THE RECORD.

THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IF YOU CONTINUE, E HAS BEEN COMPLETED. WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY ARE NOT DUE UNTIL PHASE 3 OF THE ORDER AND THE DRI WHICH HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE YET. THESE IMPROVEMENTS UNDER THE DRI AND THEY ARE PHASED CONSTRUCTED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTED OR THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE PHASES TO PROVIDE DEVELOP OVER TIME.

>> AND EACH PHASE. AND I WILL ANSWER WHATEVER

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> AND ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IS THAT -- WHAT YEAR WAS THAT CHANGED OVER THAT THE BOARD VOTED.

THE BOARD HAD TO VOTE AT THAT TIME.

AND THE NEXT TIME IT WAS MODIFIED WATTS 2014.

MICHAEL SAID HE BELIEVES IT WAS 2006.

>> AND IN ALL REALITY, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED, I'M NOT AGAINST THE NURSING HOME THAT'S A GREAT THING BUT SATISFIED THIS SEEMED WOULD HAVE TAKEN A DRI CHANGE.

>> YES, SIR, IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A CHANGE.

>> THE HANG WE HAVE IS NOT CORRECT.

>> IT IS CORRECT THE LANGUAGE AS YOU SEE IT WAS APPROVED BY

THE PRIOR COMMISSION. >> WHEN I READ IT I NEVER SAW WHERE WE SAW A NURSING HOME INSTEAD OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> THAT IT WOULD BE A ONE OF THE FOUR OTHER OPTIONS THE DEVELOPER HAD, THEY WANTED THE NURSING HOME THEY ASKED THE COUNTY READ THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER IT SAYS WITH IT.

IT SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL DONATE TO THE COUNTY A SITE WITHIN WORLD COMMERCE CENTER AT THE WRITTEN REQUEST OF THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY MADE THAT REQUEST OF

THE DEVELOPER SO THE COUNTY. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD 2209 THERE.

>> CORRECT. >> WE'RE.

>> THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR 2209 AND WE PUT THAT UP.

THAT'S DEDICATED TO ST. JOHNS. >> , THAT'S THE CHAIRMAN.

>> THE PONDING QUESTION IS CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED AT THE COUNTY OF PROVIDING THREE ACRES.

>> I DID NOT MEET I WAS SPENDING TIME WITH MY DAD.

, I HAVE A QUESTION. >> AND JUST TO CLARIFY THIS THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT TO THE TRAFFIC? , IF YOU LOOK AND THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND LET ME FIND THE NUMBER. THERE I CONVERSION.

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>> THERE IS A LAND USE CONVERSION ORDER THAT MAKES SURE THE USES ARE CONVERTED BASED ON TRANSPORTATION TRIPS.

BACK AND FORTH IT IS ON THE TRANSPORTATION TRIPS THERE IS NO NET INCREASE IT IS CONTAINED IN THE SAME BUCKET THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN THE DRI.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2022 APPROVING THE DRI MOD 2021-05.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE VOTE.

[3. Home Again St. Johns ARPA Grant Request. At the March 15th BCC meeting, staff was directed to collaborate with Home Again St. Johns to develop a grant agreement utilizing ARPA funding. Based on discussions with Home Again and further information received, staff is returning to the board with the updated grant request from Home Again for consideration. Upon acceptance of the project proposal and direction from the board, staff will work to finalize the details of a grant agreement that meets all the requirements of ARPA.]

>> THAT'S APPROVED 5-0. GOOD LUCK ON THE NEXT HEARING.

NOW IT IS 10:00. 10:01.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THE ARPA FUNDING.

DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON ARPA.

>>> GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS SARA NEWELL GRANTS AND LEGISLATIVE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY. I WILL RUN THROUGH A FEW SLIDES AND AFTER THE PRESENTATION AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

, STAFF REQUESTED A REQUEST FOR ARPA FUNDS ON THE 15TH STAFF WAS DIRECTED DURING A BOARD MEETING TO BRING BACK A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH HOME AGAIN. AN MARCH 21, WE RECEIVED THE LAST LETTER DETAILING THE REQUEST OF ARPA OF $2.282 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION.

STAFF IS IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A GRANT AGREEMENT COULD LOOK LIKE. TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE REQUEST, THE COST INCLUDES HORIZONTAL COSTS INCLUDING PURCHASING OF LAND, CONSTRUCTION OF A COMBINED OFFICE AND SERVICE CENTER. AND EIGHT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING UNITS TOTALING 2.2 AGAIN. AND THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IS DEPENDENT ON THE MARKET AND COSTS AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.

THEY WERE PROVIDED BY HOME AGAIN .

THE NEXT STEPS SHOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS GRANT WOULD BE TO ALLOCATE UNDER 2.3 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDING TO HOME AGAIN WHICH WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK AT A LATER TIME TO THE BOARD. SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD IT WOULD NEED A ZONING CHANGE TO THE LAND THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED AND THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WE WILL WORK WITH HOME AGAIN AND BRING BACK THE GRANT AGREEMENT A PROPOSED MOTION TO ALLOCATE $2.82 MILLION OF APPROACHATIONS FROM THE ARPA SUBJECT TO APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE FOR NOW FOR THE STAFF. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M

HERE AS WELL AS HOME AGAIN . >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD RIGHT NOW? , WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 3. ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT. WE'RE ANTICIPATING A LOT.

IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO. USE ONE OF THE TWO PODIUMS AND LINE UP IN THE ORDER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

WE'LL GO ONE BY ONE. >> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

RECORD. >> 1375 ARAPAHOE AVENUE.

I'M NOT HERE TO COMMENT PER SAY ON THIS PROJECT BUT BECAUSE MY AGENCY ST. FRANCIS HOUSE ST AUGUSTINE WAS MENTIONED IN A LETTER THAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED I NEED TO MAKE SURE THE CORRECT

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INFORMATION IS ENTERED PUBLICLY.

ST. FRANCIS HOUSE AND ST AUGUSTINE DOES NOT HAVE, WE OPERATE 72 BEDS OF LOW BARRIER EMERGENCY SHELTER.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M TOM MITCHELL AT 21 SAND PIPER DRIVE IN ST AUGUSTINE.

20 YEARS AGO MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO ST AUGUSTINE AND FRIENDS AND FAMILY ASKED, WHAT DO I DO FOR FUN.

I GO TO FUNDRAISERS FOR TWO REASONS, THEY ARE VALUABLE EFFORTS AND THEY -- THEY HAVE GREAT PARTIES.

MOST OF THE FUNDRAISERS ARE REPRESENTED HERE TODAY.

BUT I'M HERE FOR HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SOCIAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE. WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A MISSION FOR HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS. I AM RECOMMENDING THAT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE GRANT AND USE

THE -- ALLOCATE THE 2.2 MILLION >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I'M TROY BELIEFENS THE PRESIDENT OF HOME AGAIN, 14 INAUDIBLE ], THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THIS. IT IS PROFESSIONAL.

WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS A LONG, LONG TIME AND WORKING CLOSELY IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY WE CAN AND SAY THANK YOU FROM HOME AGAIN. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS MIKE

DAVIS, WE ARE ALL HERE. >> THANK YOU.

>> GARVIN BULLOCK, COASTAL HIGHWAY ST AUGUSTINE.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL I HAVE BEEN PROUD OF THE CONTRACT AND ARE YOU ASKING THE SURVEY HOUSES CAN THE ARPA FUNDS BE USED FOR THE DISSED A VILLAGED.

WHAT HAD 29 PROFITS COME AND SAY HOW THEY COULD BE SERVED.

CAN YOU NOT LOOK AT HOME AGAIN AND NOT KNOW IF YOU CAN NOT TAKE A SHOWER OR WASH CLOTHES OR SLEEP ARE YOU DISADVANTAGED IN OUR COUNTY. THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING T THERE IS ANOTHER AGENCY WE ARE PUTTING BEFORE YOU TODAY.

IF YOU CAN NOT EAT, IF YOU'RE HUNGRY, ARE YOU DISSE ADVANTAGED. I LOOKED THIS MORNING AT THE GUIDELINES, I WILL QUOTE, INVESTMENT -- THIS IS IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS A WELL SUITED USE OF ARPA FUNDS BECAUSE IT IS A NON-RECURRING EXPENDITURE THAT CAN BE TARGETED TO LONG TERM ASSETS THAT PROVIDE BENEFITS OVER MANY YEARS. I THINK BOTH OF THESE AGENCIES COME WITH A TIME CRITICAL AGENDA.

THEY BOTH NEED HELP NOW THAT WILL SERVE AND HELP THE COUNTY FOR YEARS TO COME. THE LEADERS AND THEY ARE ORGANIZED BUT THEY VALUE THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE.

THEY SEE IN THEM THE PEOPLE THEY NEED AND THE PEOPLE THEY HOUSE AND WILL BE PROVIDING SHOWERS FOR AND WASHING CLOTHES FOR. THEY SEE THEM AS VALUABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK WE NEED THE LEADERS WE NEED THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE. THEY'RE THE HEART AND BACKBONE OF THE COUNTY. THE OTHERS THAT WE WILL BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT LATER THAT SERVE AS WELL BUT THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN A TIME CRUNCH WE HOPE YOU CONSIDER THEM FOR EARLY FUNDING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU; ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM?

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>> BJ KALADI. WE APPRECIATE SETTING A TIME CERTAIN TO HEAR THE RESCUE PLAN ACT GRANT REQUEST AND OUR PLAN ACT DOLLARS THE 501 C 3 WHO OWNS THE LAND CAN REDUCE THE 400,000 LAND COST. THE SISTERS OF SAINT JOE CAN REMEDIATE. WHAT DATE WILL THE AGREEMENT BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BCC MEETING.

MISS SARA MENTIONED THAT. IS THERE ANY WAY TODAY TO COME UP WITH A DATE CERTAIN OR AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO HOW WE CAN MOVE THIS ALONG ONCE THEY GET YOUR PERMISSION TO GO TO THE GRAND. MR. WALDRON I APPRECIATE FAMILIES FIRST I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

OF EP. >>> CURE, ADDRESS.

>> 468 HIGH TIDE DRIED. WE MED INDIVIDUALLY AND THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE REQUEST I WANTED TO SHOW YOU PICTURES TO ILLUSTRATE THE QUALITY OF THE FOOD AND THE SETTING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTE IN. I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS WORKS.

USE THE CENTER PODIUM. >> THE PODIUM TO THE RIGHT.

GOT IT. >> THE CENTER OF THE TABLE.

>> SORRY I'M WASTING MY TIME. THIS IS JUST A DISPLAY OF THE FOOD THAT WE HAVE GIVEN AWAY AT THE WAREHOUSE.

THIS IS FOOD THAT WE SET UP FARMER'S MARKET STYLE AT THE DISTRIBUTION. AND HERE IS ANOTHER PICTURE AT YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE FRESH JUICE AND VEGETABLES.

THIS IS A DISTRIBUTION THAT WE DO AT THE APARTMENT AND SEE WE SETTUM THE FARMER'S MARKET STYLE AND ALL KINDS OF DRY GOODS. A CLOSER PICTURE AND SPAGHETTI SQUASH AND GRAPES, PINE APPLES, CAN YOU SEE WE'RE A GOOD FREES EYE OPERATION THE VALUE OF THE FOOD WE GIVE AWAY IS

SIGNIFICANT. >> HERE IS DRIED GOODS WE GIVE AWAY. HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SHELVES WHEN WE DO THE OPEN GROCERY STORE STYLE SHOPPING FOR FREE. HERE IS A PATRON SHOPPING FROM THE DRY GOODS. HERE IS ANOTHER PICTURE FROM OPEN SHOPPING DISTRIBUTION. ONE OF THE PATRONS THAT COMES ON THURSDAY. THE SWEETEST LITTLE THING BUT HER MOM, SINGLE MOM TRYING TO FEED HER FAMILY.

THIS IS THE DISTRIBUTION AT SUMMER BREEZE.

WE HAVE SOME OF THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL KIDS HELPING US DO A DISTRIBUTION. THIS IS THE ST AUGUSTINE FOOTBALL TEAM EVERY -- THE LAST TWO SUMMERS THEY HAVE COME TO HELP US PROVIDE WEEKEND FOOD TO UP TO A THOUSAND KIDS WE WERE SERVING EVERY WEEK IN THE FIRST YEAR IT WAS 400 FAMILIES THAT WE PROVIDED FOOD FOR. AS YOU KNOW WHEN SCHOOL SHUTS DOWN THE ONLY TIME THE KIDS HAVE IS THE LUNCH THEY GET AT SCHOOL. WHEN THEY GO HOME THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD, IT MATTERS. THIS IS US DOING A COOKING CLASS AT WOODLAWN APARTMENTS. ANOTHER CLASS.

YOU CAN SEE IT IS A HANDS ON EXPERIENCE.

RUNNING OUT OF TIME. WE SIT DOWN AND HAVE THE MEAL TOGETHER AND THIS IS COOKING CLASS AT THE BOYS AND GIRL'S CLUB. THE FEW PICTURES THERE.

AND WE HAVE A CHEF AND THE DISTANCE WE PROGRAM EVERY WEEK TO PROVIDE TO PEOPLE THIS WEEK.

>> IF PLEASE COMMIT THE PICTURES FOR THE CLERK.

>> AND PUBLIC PRESENT ON THE ITEM?

>> WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM.

>> GOOD MORNING I'M VICKI PEPPER AND IN ST AUGUSTINE.

I'M A MEMBER OF CARE AND FOR RACIAL EQUITY.

AND A CIVIC ACTION GROUP THROUGHOUT ST AUGUSTINE.

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, AND UNDER SERVED COMMUNITIES FUNDING AND WITH THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC THE BCC MEETING ON MARCHH AND FOR FEDERAL FUNDING THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY AFTER THE RESCUE PLAN ACT.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT BE - WE APPRECIATE AND MADE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR APPROVING PHASE 2 ARPA FUNDING PACKAGE AND $6 MILLION AND A COMPUTER AND FUNDING AND THE BUDGET.

THE ADJUSTMENT IN PHASE TWO FUNDING ALLOCATIONS.

AND $6 MILLION FOR THE COMMUNITIES AND HIT HARDEST THEY CANNOT PHASE 3 AND THEY INCLUDE A GROWING NUMBER OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS FACING HOMELESSNESS OR FOOD INSECURITY. TODAY YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE NEEDS BY PROVIDING HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS $2.28 MILLION FOR THE RELOCATION PROJECT AND $2.7 MILLION FOR EPI CARE TO OBTAIN A COUNTY FACILITY WAREHOUSE FACILITY BEFORE IT IS EVICTED.

WE KNOW OTHER PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DEFER ARPA FUNDING, PRIORITY AND PHASE THERE AND CARE LOOKS FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THOSE WITH YOU AND STAFF IN THE COMING MONTHS.

WE URGE TO YOU FUND THE REQUEST OF HOME AGAIN AND EPI CARE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>>> GOOD MORNING. I'M RUTH HOPE, 133 NEPTUNE ROAD, ST AUGUSTINE. MY FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES HOME AGAIN AND EPI CURE AND HAVE MADE A CASE FOR MAKING THE CASE FOR ALLOCATING THE MONEY TO HOME AGAIN.

YOU TOOK 6 MILLION WHICH I FULLY AM GRATEFUL FOR BUT WE NEED TO USE MORE OF THAT URGENT LIZ TO SUP SUPPORT EPI CURE THIS WILL MAKE A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND.

MY REASON FOR BEING HERE IS TO OPEN THE DIALOGUE ON THE REMAINING 25 MILLION WHICH WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE USED FOR FUNDING ROUTINE EXPENDITURE FROM WITHIN THE COUNTY AND COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST RAISED OF SPENDING MONEY ON HAND HELD DEVICES, WE QUESTION THAT. IT WOULD BE A STAIN ON THE COUNTY TO SAY THE RICHEST COUNTY IN FLORIDA CANNOT FIND THE FUNDS TO RUN ITS SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND UPDATE AND TECHNOLOGY. WE SHOULD NOT BE RAIDING ARPA FOR THIS. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ACTION ON PRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND HUNGER NEEDS.

THIS IS THE RICHEST COUNTY WE HAVE INCREASING HOMELESSNESS WHICH IS HAND IN HAND WITH HUNGER.

THE HOMELESS ARE HUNGRY, PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING THEIR RENT.

THEY GO HUNGRY TO PAY THE RENT.

WE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR A STRATEGIC APPROACH WE LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE BOTTLE NECKS IN THE HOUSING YOU MARKET AND NEEDING URGENT SUPPORT I SUGGEST THAT THE THEY ARE TO DO WITH TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND SERVICES FOR THE HOMELESS TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE WOODS AND OFF THE STREETS, OUT OF THEIR CARS THEN FOR USING THAT IS AFFORDABLE BY THE MAJORITY OF THE WORKFORCE.

AND HOSPITALITY AND SERVICE INDUSTRIES.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY ARE WEEKLY WAGE EARNERS AND THEY NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THEY CANNOT LIVE HERE IN ST. JOHNS NOW.

WE NEED TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE TO SUPPORT THE HOUSING PROJECT. HABITAT, AND THE HOUSING COALITION THAT WILL PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE DESPERATELY

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NEED TO ADDRESS THE BOTTLE NECKS IN THE MARKET.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> STEPHANIE ENFANTI, 444 HIGH TIDE DRIVE.

I DIDN'T PLAN ON COMING UP, I NEED TO TELL YOU I ANSWER THE PHONE FOR EPI CURE. LATE LIZ WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES, WE DON'T HAVE THE PLACE IN ORDER TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE SERVED. DAY AFTER DAY.

AND I'M IN A HEALTH ROOM IT IS HARD TO TELL ME.

AND AND WE CAN NOT HELP YOU. SONNY AND HER HUSBAND THEY ARE DEDICATED TO THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GO OUT AND SEE THE SUSPECTS WE FEED YOUR HELP.

>> THANK YOU. , AND GOOD MORNING.

>> I'M THE DIRECTOR AND THE ADDRESS IS 4628 PEEL STREET LOOKING AT THE HOMELESS IN 2020 AND FROM 20 TO 21 IT IS INCREASING WE WILL HAVE THEM IT WENT DOWN WE HAVE AN UPTICK.

THE YOUTH HOMELESSNESS HAS DECREASED IF IS HOMELESS.

AND WE ARE SEEING IN 2022. WITH THAT BEING SAID.

YEARS TO COME TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF THE LOW HOUSING TO AFFORDABLE, I'M SEEING THE NUMBERS OF FAMILIES IS HAPPENING EVERY DAY I GET SIX TO EIGHT CALL AS WEEK.

THAT'S A LOT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR I HOPE YOU INTEREST IT AND WE WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MAXIMIZE UNTIL WE GET THERE AND WE CANNOT GIVE YOU SOLID NUMBERS TO HOUSE AS MANY PEOPLE

AS WE CAN. >> THANK YOU.

1821 CASTILLE STREET. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

MR. CONRAD AND BRADLEY AND. >> I AM HERE AND DIRECTOR STAFF AND HAVE DONE SINCE BEING ASKED TO VACATE THE LOCATION AND STATE ROAD 207 ON THE 17TH, 2021.

MOVING TO SOUTH HOLMES THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS THE STAFF OFFER VITAL SERVICES TO HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT THOSE ARE A PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BANKRUPTCY AND THE WORKING POOR. THEY GAVE THE NEED WITH BASIC

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NECESSITIES. IT WAS NOT EASY TO FULFILL.

AND THE COUNTY TRIED TO HELP HOME AGAIN FIND A LOCATION.

THERE WAS NOT A SUITABLE SITE FOR THEM.

THE SITUATION AND CLIENTS HAD TO ENDURE IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS WAS AND HAVE BEEN A DIFFICULT ONE TO SAY THE LEAST. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE AND TODAY IS THE DAY WE DO BETTER AND DO MORE OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT WILL DO THIS AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND NEEDED BY PROVIDING HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS WITH THE ARPA GRANT REQUEST FUND A LOTION FOR SERVICES AT 197 STATE ROAD 16.

THE FACILITIES WILL PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR HEALTH, HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT REFERRALS AND RESPITE CARE FOR CURRENT AND NEW CLIENTS FOR HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS TO UNITE THE DELIVERY AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES AT THE CENTER DEDICATED TO RESTORING ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S HOME TO SELF-SUFFICIENCY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

ATTENTION TO THIS. >> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. , ANYONE ELSE COME UP AT THIS TIME AND STAND AT THE OTHER. I WANT TO SAY I ADVOCATE FOR THE PROGRAM. THIS IS A PROGRAM IS A HEALTHY SPACE AND TAKING CARE OF THE DISENFRANCHISED PEOPLE AND DOING A GREAT JOB, THE FUNDING WILL LET THEM CREATE A HEALTHIER SPACE HELP MORE PEOPLE, THE POOR, THE WEAK, THE PEOPLE THAT NEEDED HELP. THIS IS THE ONE TO DO IT.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING.

THEY ARE KIND OF. THE PLAN IS PLANNED OUT IT MAKES SENSE. THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO HELP THE POOR AND DISENFRANCHISED AND CREATE A HEALTHY SPACE IN THE COUNTY AS WELL. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE FUNDS HERE IT IS A RESCUE PLAN; WE'RE NOT RESCUING PEOPLE WHO ARE SELF-SUFFICIENT I DON'T WANT IT TO GO TO PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE FINDING FUNDING THEMSELVES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FULL AMOUNT OF THE $25 MILLION DOES NOT GO TO PEOPLE THAT SHOULD NOT NEED RESCUING. THE PEOPLE WHO NEED MONEY FOR COMPUTER SOFTWARE OR WALKIE TALKIES, HANDHELD DEVICES THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE AND ALLOCATED TO TOWARDS THE DISENPROVIDESSED, THE -- DISENFRANCHISED AND TO FIND MONEY FROM THIS PROGRAM TO ALLOCATE TOWARDS THAT. WOULD BE.

ARTHUR BUTLER, CRYSTAL SPRING WAY.

THANK YOU ALL, COMMISSIONERS, I'M REPRESENTING TOBACCO FREE ST. JOHNS. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE PORT IN THE STORM AND WE JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT OUR WORK IN THE COUNTY FOR THE YOUTH ON SUBSTANCE MISUSE WE SEE A MISCONNECTION AND WORK WITH THE ORGANIZATION TO EDGE SURE THAT OUR YOUTH THAT ARE HO HOMES ARE THE FAMILIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED REGA REGARDING SUBSTANCE MISUSE. WE SEE THIS AS VITAL FOR THE WORK WE DO, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ARE THERE COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? FROM THE BOARD TO STAFF OR DISCUSSION AMONG US?

>> I DID HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS I WANTED TO SHARE THE THOUGHTS AND PARK SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS AND THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW WE'RE VIEWING THE FUNDS T IS CLEAR TO ME THERE ARE MANY ORGANIZATIONS IN ST. JOHNS THAT HAVE DONE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT HAVE BENEFITED OUR RESIDENTS.

EVERYONE WOULD USE THE FUNDS FOR GOOD AND THE FUNDS THEY RAISED FOR GOOD. I DON'T QUESTION THE MOTIVES OR INTENTIONS. I GUESS I HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE

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DO NOT HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE THEY ARE ALLOCATED.

WHERE ARE THE GREATEST NEEDS WHO DO THOSE AFFECT.

ARE THEY THE BEST TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS AND ARE THEY VIABLE IN THE LONG TERM IF WE GIVE 2 MILLIONED TO WILL THEY BE BACK ASKING FOR ANOTHER MILLION.

WE DON'T HAVE THE. WHAT IS THE FUNDING STRATEGY.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE DETAILS IT HAS NOT BEEN SET UP THAT WAY.

WE HEARD PEOPLE AND ARTICULATE THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THEY ARE HELPING BUT THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE PLANS THEY ARE QUESTIONS THAT NEED ING TO ANSWERED THE FUNDING SUPPORTS THAT CAN HELP PEOPLE IF WE DO

IT THE RIGHT WAY. >> THIS IS NOT ANTI-HOME AGAIN. IT SHOULD BE FIRST THROUGH THE DOOR AND BEING EVALUATED BY THE SYSTEM WE PUT IN PLACE.

I REACHED OUT TO MELISSA NELSON WHO WORKS WITH THE UNITED WAY.

I ASKED HER TO BE HERE. UNITED WAY HAS A SYSTEM IN PLACE WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

THEY TAKE APPLICATIONS FROM PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY AND THEY EVALUATE THE REQUESTS BASE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. WHETHER IT IS UNITED WAY OR THE STAFF DOING THE EVALUATING, WE KNEAD TO DO DUE D DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THIS IN THE SMARTEST WAY POSSIBLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO ASK MELISSA HOW THIS WOULD GO IF WE USE UNITED WAY AS A BOARD N THE SERVICE WITH HER SHE SAID THEY HAVE ALLOCATED STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS ADD NEED THEM THE MOST. THAT'S A RESOURCE WE WOULD BE SMART TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AID GUIDE THEM MY PROPOSAL WE SET ASIDE THE 6 MILLION TO THE SYSTEM AND LET THE ORGANIZATIONS APPLY FOR IT AND WORK OUT THE DETAILS AND WHY IN THE SPIRIT OF DOING THE DUE DILL AGAINST.

I'M INTERESTING TO GET THE THOUGHTS AND THAT'S WHERE I

STAND ON THIS ONE. >> BEFORE WE CALL ON MISS NELSON. LET ME CALL ON THE COMMISSIONER BLOCKER AND COMMENTS IN AND MAYBE.

>>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE MR. WHITEHURST HEARING THE CONCERNS ABOUT SETTING UP A SUSTAINABLE AND LONG-TERM SYSTEM FOR DOING THIS.

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MRS. NELSON.

I DID HAVE QUESTIONS TO ASK HER, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO GO FIRST.

, COULD YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

>> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> MELISSA NELSON. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.

WE SPOKE BRIEFLY AS WELL. WHAT PROMPTED THAT I LOOKED AT PUTNAM COUNTY IN THE REGION THAT HAVE USED UNITED WAY AS A SUSTAINABLE WAY OF ADDRESSING GETTING THE FUNDING TO THE PARTIES IN NEED. HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU UNITED WAY COULD BE EFFECTIVE IN HELPING US MEET THE NEEDSMENT WHEN I SPOKE WITH YOU, WE DID STEP IN IN WITH REGARDS TO THE CARES DOLLARS AND AT THE REQUEST OF THE PUTNAM COMMISSION. AND THEY SET UP THE GUIDELINES AND LET US KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WERE AND THEN WE WORKED TO ADMINISTRATE THAT BECAUSE IT IS INTENSIVELY STAFF HEAVY AND WE, IN OUR WORK WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS FOR 70 YEARS IN S SAINT ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND IN PUTNAM HAD THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NON-PROFITS.

YOU WERE DIRECT, COMMISSIONER, THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING, THEY ARE DOING THE WORK, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES. IN REGARDS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A SIMILAR ACTIVITY THAT IS HAPPENING IN OTHER COUNTIES, THEY'RE HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE UNITED WAY STEPS IN WHEN THIS HAPPENS.

I WOULD SAY RECENTLY IN LEE COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY, JUST LAST

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WEEK THERE WAS A OUTLINE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WERE THAT THE COMMISSION SAT IN PLACE THAT ALLOWS ALL NON-PROFITS TO MAKE AN APPLICATION AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE NEEDS WOULD BE.

HOW IT IS CAPACITY BUILDING AND HOW IT IS SUSTAINABLE.

THAT'S WHAT IS IMPORTANT AND FITS IN WITH THE GUIDANCE THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE FOUNDS THEMSELVES.

AND THEN THERE IS A RANKING PROCESS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO EVERY YEAR. AND IT IS OPEN, TRANSPARENT AND AVAILABLE TO ALL. THERE IS PRECEDENT TO THE CURRENT FUNDS BY CARES, DUVAL COUNTY DID THE WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST COAST FUND WORKING WITH US, CARES DOLLARS LAST 18 MONTHS AGO. CENTRAL FLORIDA.

SAME THING I COULD GO ON AND ON.

THERE ARE A LOT OF EXAMPLES. >> I APPRECIATE YOU THAT BASED ON I ASKED A COMMON WAY TO HANDLE HAVE UNITED WAY OR A PARTNER DO THAT. I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A TIMING ISSUE WITH BOTH EPICURE AND HOME AGAIN.

HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE IF THE BOARD ASKED UNITED WAY.

HOW QUICKLY WOULD YOU LEVERAGE RESOURCES TO HELP IN THE

MATTER? >> WHEN WE TALKED WE WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL EXPENDITURES I WOULD NOT TELL YOU I WAS PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE FROM THE COMMISSION AND WHAT W REGARDS TO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE TIME SENSITIVE AND UTMOST IMPORTANT. WHAT HAPPENS OFTEN WITH THE DOLLARS ITIC THATS LONG FOR THEM TO ROLL OUT THEY KIND OF MISS THE MARK EVERYONE WANTS TO BE EXPEDIENT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, WE HAVE TO SET CRITERIA BUT EPICURE AND HOME AGAIN HAVE DEADLINES THIS VERY TO MEET. EPI CURE IN MY DISCUSSIONS THEY HAVE A LEASING SITUATION AND LIMITED TIME.

CAN YOU THINK ABOUT A MONTH AND WE HAVE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS HERE BUT THIS IS HELPFUL IN TO THE DISCUSSION.

>> IT COMES BACK TO HOW THE COMMISSION WILL CRAFT THIS.

IF YOU CRAFT IT SO THAT THERE IS A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABLE AND MULTIPLE NON-PROPROFIT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR THAT, CLEARLY IT HAS TO BE A NOTICE, TIME FOR THEM TO RUN THROUGH IT.

IF THE COMMISSION WAS TO CHOOSE RANK AND SAY THESE ARE ORGANIZATIONS WE NEED FUNDING TO FIRST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT CHANGES THE WAY IT LOOKS, THAT'S WHY I AM VAGUE IN AN ANSWER. I DO NOT K KNOW WHAT YOUR INTENT IS. OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE FOCUSED ON WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE HAPPY TO BE THE PARTNER YOU LOOK TO IN REGARDS TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING LOOKS LIKE BUT IT WOULD TAKE A CONTRACT THAT WOULD BE ORCHESTRATED THROUGH YOUR STAFF BECAUSE ARE YOU DOING THE FUNDING. AND SO, THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PIECES. WHAT I TELL YOU WE WOULD BE COMMITTED TO DO WHATEVER THE DOLLARS HIT THE COMMUNITY AS

FAST AS THEY COULD. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE OTHER COUNTIES AROUND MAYBE GOING TO A SYSTEMWARD THEY COME UP FRONT AND SAY THESE ARE A COUPLE OF LOCAL PARTER INS TO RANK. YOU HAVE SEEN THAT OR ENLIGHTEN

US ON THAT. >> WE WILL TELL YOU THIS.

THE MOST EXAMPLES THAT YOU HAVE THE BREADTH OF LOOK FROM THE CARES FUND THAT'S THE MOST RECENT.

THESE FUNDS THEY ARE NEWER AND THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. DIFFERENT COUNTIES ARE AHEAD OF EACH OTHER TO WHAT THE RESEARCH IS, WHAT THE CONSULTANTS ARE RECOMMENDING, WHAT THE STRATEGIES ARE.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES. IN W REGARDS TO THE CARES FUND THE RESTRICTIONS WERE LITTLE AND FUNDS HIT THE GROUND RIGHT AWAY. DUVAL IS GREAT IN JACKSONVILLE. IN REGARDS TO THE FUNDS FOR NON-PROFITS THAT TOOK LONGER YOU ARE EVALUATING THAT AND THE QUESTIONS, WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES ARE YOU CHARGING US WITH? ARE YOU CHARGING US WITH DOING SOME RESEARCH AND GIVING THAT TO YOU? ARE YOU CHARGING US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE LIKE IN OUR REGULAR PROCESS WE'RE EVALUATING THE WORK BEING DONE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND REPORTING BACK.

IT IS COMING BACK TO WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF EVERYTHING MOST COMMISSIONS ARE

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WORKING WITH THEIR CONSULTANTS AND THE BEST WAY TO ADMINISTER

FOR THE COUNTY. >> WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY.

WHAT IS THE BEST FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY S THAT FAIR? I SUGGEST THAT'S THE CASE. WHERE I HAVE COMMITTED TO EACH OF YOU WHEN YOU CALLED WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP EXPEDITE THE PROCESS TO BE THE PARTNER. THAT'S THE ROLE.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR ROLE; THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS AND BEING HERE TODAY.

>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> IF WE WERE TO GIVE YOU GUIDANCE WE WANT TO ALLOCATE AF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOUSING, FOOT INSECURE, YOU KNOW, BATTERED WOMEN'S SHELTERS WE GAVE THAT YOU GUIDANCE, WITHOUT PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS IN THE COMMUNITY COULD YOU SORT OF ALLOCATE THE FUNDING IN THAT WAY OR NEED TO

BE MORE SPECIFIC? >> CERTAINLY.

>> THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT I COULD PRESENT TO YOU WAS LEE COUNTY. IT DID A ALLOCATION OF $20 MILLION AND THEY ALLOCATED 16.2 MILLION TO UNITED WAY TO DISTRIBUTE. THAT PROCESS IS PUBLISHED TIME LINES. WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE NON-PROFITS.

VALIDATIONS OF THEIR CURRENT STATUS TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ALL THE MATERIAL THAT WE KEEP ON FILE FOR OUR REGULAR PARTNERS BUT FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT PART OF OUR REGULAR FUNDING SYSTEM.

DO YOU NEED TO BRING THAT IN. LEE COUNTY IS DOING THAT THING. THE COUNTY COMMISSION SET ASIDE A TWO PARAGRAPHS OF WHAT THEY WANTED THE DOLLARS TO GO TO AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT IS UP TO YOUR DISCRETION YOU SAY WE HAVE THIS AMOUNT AND WE WANT TO ALLOCATE THIS TO A SHELTER. WE WOULD SAY WE NEED A SHELTER. THAT'S YOUR DECISION YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHERE THEY GO AND HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AS YOU ARE IN REGARDS TO WHAT ARE THE MOST PRESSING NEEDS. THAT'S WHAT I DO DAY IN AND OUT BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT FAR MORE REACHING NEEDS.

LOOKING AT ROADS, SEW SEWERS, UNITED WAY WE LOOK AT HEALTH, EDUCATION AND FINANCIAL STABILITY OF EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY EVERY DAY. THAT ANSWERS THAT.

I WANT TO SAY THIS. >> TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE WHETHER WE GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF OR TO MRS. NELSON ADD HER STAFF WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WRITE IT INTO THE AGREEMENT WE MAKE.

BUT I WANT A SYSTEM TO FILTER THE REQUEST.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE.

>> AND, IS THERE A FEE FOR YOU TO ALLOCATE.

ABSOLUTELY THERE IS. IT IS WRITTEN INTO FUNDS.

I HAVE TO EMPLOY STAFF TO DO SO.

WE'RE A NON-PROFIT JUST LIKE THE OTHERS I WILL TELL YOU IT RANGES WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND IT VARIES BASED ON THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTIES N PUTNAM I WILL GIVE YOU THIS EXAMPLE, THIS IS VERY REALISTIC ONE FOR US.

THE COUNTY PAID UNITED WAY THE 10% OF THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ALLOCATED AS APPROVED IN THE GUIDELINES BUT WE MADE A COMMITMENT BACK, WE -- IT TOOK ME FOUR STAFF PEOPLE AND DISTRIBUTE ED $1.2 MILLIONS IN SMALL AMOUNTS IN A SIX-WEEK PERIOD THAT'S HOW FAST WE WORKED TO GET THE MONEY OUT BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE OUT BEFOREH OF 2020.

WE TOOK THAT FULL ADMINISTRATIVE AMOUNT BUT THEN IN RETURN WE COMMITTED THAT WE WOULD BACK OUT WHAT OUR STAFF COSTS WERE AND WHEN ALL WAS SAID AND DONE.

WE TOOK THE BALANCE THAT WHAT WAS BETWEEN WHAT IT COST US AND WHAT WE WERE PAID AND WE PUSHED THAT MONEY BACK OUT INTO PUTNAM COUNTY AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS WAS BECAUSE THE FUNDS WERE TIED TO CARES DOLLARS THEY HAD REQUIREMENT SO MAYBE WE COULDN'T PAY SOMEONE'S GAS TO VISIT THEIR BABY IN THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE WE HAD TO PAY THEIR RENT BUT IT WAS AND TRUE EXPENSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE MOTHER OF A NEWBORN THAT WAS IN NICU BUT THE MONEY WE PUSHED BACK INTO THE

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COMMUNITY. WE COULD LIFT THE RESTRICTIONS ADD PUT IT WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE.

I WOULD TELL YOU WE HAVE TO COVER OUR COSTS THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I KEEP MY DOORS OWN. YOU NOSE MY STAFF WORKS INCREDIBLY HARD BUT I WOULD% COMMIT TO YOU THAT IF THERE WERE ANY OVERRAGES WE MAKE SURE IT GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO. EVERY YEAR WE RAISE MONEY TO GIVE IT AWAY. THE IDEA IS NOT THAT IT IS SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT OR MELISSA IS TAKING A MUCH NEEDED

VACATION. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE RATES MAY BE.

THIS IS -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT DECISIONS THE BOARD IS GOING TO MAKE TODAY. I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS LATER ON BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA JUST LIKE I'M ASKING MR. CONRAD WHAT TO HANDLE THE GRANTS WHICH I THINK WE HAVE. THAT'S ANOTHER COST WE NEED TO LOOK AT. IT IS.

IT IS. YOU KNOW AND THERE IS T IS JUST A BALANCE OF WHETHER IT COSTS THE COUNTY MORE OR THE COUNTY LESS IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THE

CAPABILITIES. >> ANY TIME WE RECEIVE FUNDS, I HOPE A MAJORITY OR MOST GOES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN DO, TOO. THAT'S THE KEY TO THAT.

NOT BE EATEN UP IN TRANSACTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. , A ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> WITH THE PROGRAM AND I GUESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT OPEN FOR ANY NON-PROFIT, RIGHT NOT JUST THE PARTNER AGENCIES THAT YOU WORK WITH?

>> , THAT IS THE A COMMISSION DECISION BUT THAT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE TO ME. WE'RE KNOWN FOR WORKING WITH A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE WE HAVE PROACTIVELY PARTNERED WITH THEM AND REVIEWED THE PAPERWORK OP-ED OR AND WE WORK WITH NON-PROFITS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT PART OF THAT KNOWN GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH. AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE WORK WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THEY'RE NOT ONE OF OUR KNOWN PARTNERS.

WE ARE HOPE TO WORKING WITH A PARTNER.

LAST YEAR TO WORK AND I WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WORK WITH MORE PARTNERS BUT THEY ARE THOSE THAT FOCUS ON HEALTH, EDUCATION AND FINANCIAL TABLETY.

I WANT TO ADDRESS THE RESCUE POPULATION AND POPULATIONS AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DESIGNATE PROGRAMS OR COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, INITIATIVES.

ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE FOOD INSECURITY. WE NEED TO DESIGNATE THOSE AND

WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. >> THANK YOU, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WE DON'T KNOW WE COULD HAVE FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND SETTING UP A SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN TRANSFER THE FUNDS AND IDENTIFY THE NEEDS IT IS IMPORTANT.

THE ECONOMY IS STRONG WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I THINK IT WAS A WORTHY DISCUSSION. THANK YOU.

, LET ME MAKE SOME OBSERVATIONS THEN I WILL PROPOSE A MOTION I THINK. I AGREE WITH THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AND I HAVE ADMIRATION AND RESPECT. I WATCHED UNITED WAY OVER THE YEARS AND WHAT A TREMENDOUS JOB THEY DO SERVING THE UNDER FUNDED ADD THE NEEDY. I WOULD BE INCLINED TO AGREE WE CAN DEVELOP A PARTNERSHIP WITH UNITED WAY TO PRIORITIZE AND

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ANALYSIS OF WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE SPEND THE ARPA FUNDS EFFECTIVELY. WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE IN SERVING THE UNDER SERVED.

I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD COLLECTIVELY COME UP WITH A SUGGESTION FROM THE STAFF WITH HELP FROM MELISSA ON A SYSTEM TO WORK WITH UNITED WAY AND PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS AND THE FUNDING. HAVING SAID THAT, PERSONALLY I HAVE ZERO QUESTION ABOUT WHAT IS AN IMMEDIATE AND OVERWHELMING PRIORITY FOR ME, THAT'S HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS.

I DON'T NEED TO STRESS ALL THE COMMENTS I MADE ON MARCH 15TH.

BUT I FEEL AS A COMMISSION WE INADVERTENTLY CREATED HUGE PROBLEMS FOR A VERY, VERY WORTHY CITIZENS.

AND GIVEN THE CONCERNS ABOUT. WHAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST I HOPE IS POSSIBLY A COMPROMISE WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO FORWARD WITH A COMMITMENT TO HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS I'M HOPE IF THE BOARD WISHES TO INVITE THE UNITED WAY TO ASSIST IN THE EFFORT TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE FACILITIES, THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION IN SOME WAY THAT'S YOU NOSE CERTAINLY FINE BY ME. KY NOT SIT HERE TODAY AND REM REMAIN, WHEN I FEEL LIKE WE FEED TO TAKE QUICK AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ON HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS.

I WILL MOVE 2.28 MILLION OF THE APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE ARPA FUNDING TO HOME AGAIN SUBJECT TO APPROVAL AND EXECUTION OF A

GRANT AGREEMENT. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> DISCUSSION? , I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF I'M A PART OF THE PROPERTY ACROSS FROM IT.

>> AND PAUL IS RECUSING HIMSELF.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PARTNER WITH UNITED WAY?

>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK IT WITH WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK WITH SOME CRITERIAMENT WHEN WE HEARD FROM MRS. NELSON THE OBLIGATION MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION WE NEED TO GET CLEAR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION HOW WE WANT TO DO THIS AND EPI CURE WHICH IS JUST AS DESERVING AS HOME AGAIN IF WE WANT TO ESTABLISH A RATING SYSTEM.

I DO THINK SOME IS TIME SENSITIVE WE NEED TO GET THIS BACK IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS ADD BE FAIR TO UNITED WAY AND LET THEM SPOOL UP THEIR RESOURCES. WE GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO COME BACK IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS WITH GUIDELINES THAT WE CAN IMPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD. 1 IS THERE A CONSENSUS FOR THAT. AND A RECOMMENDATION ON GOING FORWARD BASED ON THE DISCUSSION.

SO YOU AWARE. AND THE CONSENT WE'LL BRING BACK THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING OR THE FOLLOWING WITHIN THE 30-DAY TIME PERIOD A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR YOU TO NEED TO HERE WHAT AREAS TO LOOK AT. I CAN TELL YOU TODAY IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO WE CAN DISCUSS IT I DON'T WANT TO BRING YOU BACK IN TWO WEEKS ■OR 30 DAYS AND BE AN EXPECTATION OF MORE WITHOUT HEARING FROM YOU TODAY.

BY THE NEXT MEETING FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AS THE COMMISSIONER INDICATED AND ALLOWING UNITED WAY AND MISS NELSON SPOKE WITH YOU AND THE STAFF TO DISCUSS WHAT AN EVALUATION WOULD LOOK LIKE

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BASED ON THE CATEGORIES AND THE FUNDING THAT YOU OUTLINED.

, WE'LL MOVE ON. I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MAY BE HERE FOR THE SUMMER HAVEN DISCUSSION.

RATHER THAN GO BACK TO 1 I WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH THE NEXT FOR SEE HOW FAR WE GET AND REVERT BACK TO ITEM 1.

WE'LL TAKE UP THE NORTHERN SUMMER HAVEN DISCUSSION.

ITEM 4. JOE.

IS JOE PRESENTING. WHO IS PRESENTING THAT? , MAYBE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT UP.

[1. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-37 Ashton Downs. Request to rezone approximately 73.72 acres of land from Planned Rural Development (PRD) to Open Rural (OR). The subject parcel is located on an unaddressed parcel on the west side of the State Road 13A North, 1.1 miles South of County Road 208 and County Road 13A North intersection. This request was heard by the Planning and Zoning Agency (PZA) at their regularly scheduled public hearing on February 17, 2022, and was recommended for approval, 7-0.]

JOE IS NOT HERE. HE WAS HERE WE FIND OUT AND GET

HIM. >> I WONDER SHOULD WE TRY TO DO ONE AND GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

LET'S TAKE UP ITEM 1 I THINK THAT'S A EXPARTE CLOSURE.

AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. I DO NOT HAVE ANY RECORD OF

MEETINGS ON THE MATTER. >> NO, SIR,.

>> I HAD NONE. NOTHING TO DISCLOSE.

ITEM 1. YOU'RE ON.

>> I'LL BE QUICK. >>> GOOD MORNING KAREN TAYLOR, WITH ME IS STEVE STRATTEN AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE A PLANNED RURAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH HAS EXPIRED TOO OPEN RURAL I WILL GO THROUGH THIS SINCE YOU HAD A LOT ON YOUR PLATE TODAY.

IT IS ON ROAD 13 A NORTH CAN YOU SEIZE CENTRAL TO THE WESTERN CENTRAL PART. THIS IS A CLEARER AND SOUTH OF 208. THIS IS A THE FUTURE LAND USE IT LOOKS LIKE THE OTHER M MAPS BUT THE ONLY THING THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE TAIL OF DRI TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

IT IS THE PRD AND AGENDA THERE IS -- AGENDA TO THE NORTH AND -- ADJACENT TO THE NORTH AND THE NORTHWEST AND THIS IS ONLY A PORTION OF THAT THIS IS THE ORIGINAL IT WAS 103.7 ACRES THEY HAVE TO HAVE 100. 30 WERE SOLD.

THAT'S WHAT ARE YOU SEEING TO THE NORTH.

THAT'S THE ONLY PIECE IS THE 73.72 ACRES, THIS IS THE PLAN THERE WAS AN ADJUST THAT TOOK THESE AND.

AND THESE ARE THE LIMITS OF THE REZONING AND IT IS TIMBERLAND.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS IT GOES BACK TO AGRICULTURE.

AND IT DOES ALLOW FOR AGRA BUILD AND IT IS APPROPRIATE.

JUST SOME PICTURES ALONG 208 LOOKING WEST.

ROAD 13 A AND 208 LOOKING NORTH.

THIS IS THE PRD TO THE NORTH OF THE PROJECT.

AND ASHTON ROAD IS WHERE THE OTHER LOTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.

AND DIDN'T WANT TO JOIN IN ON GETTING RID OF THE PRD.

AND AN AREA. THE PROPERTY IS HERE.

THESE ARE THE MITIGATION BANKS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN

THE AREA. >> THERE IS THE TUPELO AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS KIND OF O -- THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MITIGATION BANKS AS WELL.

WE FEEL LIKE IT IS COMPATIBLE AND GOES BACK TO OR WHICH USED TO BE. IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE MITIGATION BANKS AND THE, AGAIN CONSISTENT AND THE DESIGNATION. AND WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. AND ARE YOU WELCOME TO ASK ANY

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QUESTIONS. >> WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. NOW IS THE TIME.

SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY; IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 1? , YES, I WOULD LIKE AND ORDINANCE 2022.

24. APPROVING 2021-37 ASHTON DOWN.

[4. Northern Summer Haven / River Discussion. Discussion to assess the vulnerability of the Northern Summer Haven area and Summer Haven River]

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 1. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES. I SEE YOU, YES WE'LL TAKE UP THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE COVER THIS AND THEN GO BACK TO ITEM 2.

>> AND JOE GIAMMANCO, I APOLOGIZE I THOUGHT WE WENT

BACK TO 1. >> JUST TO START THE PRESENTATION, THE STAFF SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS MEET WITH SUMMER HAVEN RESIDENTS OUT OF THAT MEETING WAS A REQUEST THAT WE COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT THE SUMMER HAVEN NORTHERN AREA AND THE RIVER FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD.

THE PRESENTATION IS A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO OPEN THE DISCUSSION

FOR THAT. >> LET ME BE EXPLICIT THERE MAY BE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO DID NOT FOLLOW THE HISTORY OF THE RECENT HISTORY BUT WE WERE REQUESTED TO HOLD A TOWN HALL MEETING DEALING WITH THE SUMMER HAVEN ISSUE THE ECO NOT THE RIVER AND THE FACT IT IS FILLING IN WITH SILT BUT THE AREA WE DID THAT, WE HAD A MEETINGS CLOSE TO 100 PEOPLE.

AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND INPUT I MADE THE COMMENT THAT I WOULD SCHEDULE A COMMISSION MEETING DISCUSSION BECAUSE OF SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT WERE GENERATED THERE.

AT THE NEXT AVALUABLE MEETING THAT WAS MARCH 8TH THE NEXT THAT WE COULD GET NOTICE WAS APH FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHY THIS IS ON THE AGENDA THAT'S THE BRIEF HISTORY SOME OF YOU WERETY MEETING AND LISTENED CLOSELY AND HEARD THE CONCERNS

OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS. >> YES, SIR.

>>> AND WE KNOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RIVER FIRST WE GO LOOK AT THE ECO SYSTEM AS THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED SO WE KNOW THE RIVER IS VULNERABLE TO BREACHES AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD DONE STUDIES IN THE AREA MORE TO THE EAST BUT NOT STUDIES OF THE RIVER LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IMPACTS THE RIVER AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A STUDY OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

WHAT IS THE RIVER. HOW HAS THAT IMPACTED AND TO THE NORTH AND THE SUMMER HAVEN AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD COME OUT OF THIS WHAT WE LEARNED FROM OTHER STUDIES IS THAT THERE COULD BE HARD STRUCTURES AS WELL AS BREAK WALLS AND BEACH RENOURISHMENT. WHAT COULD BE DONE TO PROTECT THE RIVER AND THEN AND AROUND THE AREA.

IF THE BOARD DIRECTS THE STAFF TO DO THAT A STUDY OF THAT ISSUE AND THE SOLUTIONS WE COME UP WITH.

>> AND SO, AGAIN IF THEY STUDY THE AREA, WE WOULD THEN LOOK AT JUST THE RIVER ITSELF AND NEED TO IDENTIFY THE RISK WHAT IS CAUSED BY AND PROVIDES IN THE BOARD DIRECTS.

WITH THAT, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. CURRENTLY THERE IS A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT THE LEGISLATORS ARE PUTTING IN MONEY TO LOOK AT WE MAY LEVERAGE THAT AND I GUESS COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT ADD THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS THE NAME OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE THAT ABILITY FOR TO US LOOK AT AND SO, I DO HAVE A MOTION ON MY NEXT SLIDE BUT THIS IS AND AND GIVE AN

OPPORTUNITY OR AN APPLICATION. >> WITH THAT I WILL LEAVE THE

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MOTION OUT AND OPEN TO QUESTIONS.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 4, THE

SUMMER HAVEN RIVER DISCUSSION. >> GOOD MORNING, KEN MANNING ON HEAVILY OF THE AND THE COMMISSIONER TO BRINGING THIS TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION. AND FOUR MONTHS TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE A GREAT CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY.

SINCE THEN AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED.

WE HAD A TOWN HALL WE FOUND TO BE VERY INFORMATIVE IF NOT SPIRITED AND HELPFUL FOR THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT SINCE THAT DECEMBER MEETING AND THAT APPEARS IN MY OPINION AN ACCELERATION OF THE REGRESSION OF THE INLET AND THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU A FEW PHOTOS THIS IS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WITNESSED THIS PERSONALLY EVERY DAY AS PART OF THE IMPACT THAT A LACK OF FLOW TO THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER HAS ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY NOT JUST THE RIVER NOT JUST THE PARKS ACROSS THE STREET BUT THE INLAND AS A WHOLE. IF I MAY THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WE PRESENTED IN DECEMBER. THIS WAS CICCA 2009 SHORTLY AFTER THE ORIGINAL BREACH ON THE NORTH END.

AND INTO THE. THE RIVER AND THE CURRENT IF YOU WILL FOR THE ESTUARY. IT IS CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE PROPERTIES AND FAIRLY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

THIS HAPPENED THIS IS WHAT THEY IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THAT IS INTO THE INLET. THE SANDBARS THAT IS THE RIVER CLOSING OFFKY TELL YOU OVER THE -- I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL VESSELS GET RUN AGROUND AT MIDTIDE NOT LOW AND THIS NARROWING AND THE FILL OF SAND IS COMPLETELY OCCLUDING THE FLOW THAT IS CAUSING ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THE FLOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> AND KEN MENTIONED I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR PUTTING US ON THE AGENDA ON DECEMBER 21ST.

ONE OF THE THING WE ASKED FOR AND ENGAGEMENT AND A INTELPARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY FOR SOLUTIONS AND LONG TERM SOLUTIONS. WE DID HAVE A SUCCESSFUL TOWN HALL MEETING AND THE ATTENDANCE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.

AND THE CHALLENGE IS NOT UNIQUE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OUR CHALLENGE IS NOT ALONE THE RIGHT FIRST STEP.

THEY HAVE BEEN ISOLATED. THERE ARE STUDIES AND THAT IT

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PROVIDES AS WELL. AND WE WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR AND THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT IN A VOICE WITH THAT VULNERABILITY STUDY SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

IT DOES PAST AN RFP AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS CHOSEN WE LOVE THE AND AND THE SERGES AND BECAUSE THE INFORMATION AND WE WANT TO SHARE WHEN IT WAS FLOWING THEY DO THE AS WELL.

AND WE THE MOTION BE PASSED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE

PARTNERSHIP. >> THANK YOU.

>>> YES, SIR. >>> I'M WALTER KOKER, MADISON STREET. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY

CONDOLENCES TO MR. WALDRON. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE TO SAY IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE TO SPEND MORE TAXPAYER MONEY ON THE PROBLEMS THAT SUMMER HAVEN AGAIN. IT IS LIKE WE HAVE LEARNED NOTHING FROM THE FAILURES.

IT WAS IN JAN RIFF OF 1981 I RENTED A BOAT AT DEVIL'S HE BOWL AND WENT TO THE INTERCOASTAL TO THE INLET.

A FRIEND THAT TIPPED ME OFF TO HIS FISHING HOLE IN THE SUMMER HAVEN. WE MANAGED TO FIND IT.

IT WAS FREEZING COLD LIKE A WINTERS ONCE WERE AND THE TROUT WERE STACKED UP. AND A BIT WARMER.

WE LOADED THE COOLER. THE WAY NORTH.

SUMMER HAVEN RIVER WAS A LIVING AND BREATHNG ECO SYSTEM.

AND ALL KINDS OF VEGETATION AND CONTOURS ALONG THE SHORELINES AND THE DEPTH OF THE RIVER. I HAVE BEEN BOATING, FISHING AND PHOTOING THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER SINCE IF WE CAN RESTORE THE RIVER I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO SIGN ON.

AND AFTER YEARS WORK AND MILLIONS WE HAVE THERE IS NOW A DITCH. IF WE DO IT, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND MORE TAXPAYER MONEY ON ANOTHER SO-CALLED STUDY.

AND THE FAILURES OF THE PAST SIX YEARS AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A FAILED EXPERIMENT AND MOVE ON.

AND THE COMMISSIONER THAT VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE HOW IT WOULD BE DIFFER THIS TIME. AS FOR THE BEACH ITSELF AND THE MATERIALS REGARDING THE ITEM. AND AND A SOLUTION.

ALL IT TAKES IS A LOOK AT THE COAST AND ROCKS AND WALLS IMPLEMENTED ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH TO SEE THERE IS NO BEACH THERE. ONLY BEACH RENOURISHMENT WILL KEEP THE SAND THERE. PUBLIC ACCESS BEING LIMITED IT IS DOUBTFUL. ROCKS ON THE BEACH ARE NOT A SOLUTION. IN CLOSING, RETREAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE. THE SUGGESTION ANY STUDY GOING FORWARD BE IN THAT DIRECTION ANY OTHER APPROACHES IS FOLLY AND A MISUSE OF TAX MONEY. THANK YOU.

>> AND ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT?

>> YES, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING AND 9051 JEAN JOHNSON ROAD. APPRECIATE YOU FELLOWS BRINGING THIS UP FOR CONSIDERATION AND DOING THE STUDY ON THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER. I WOULD LIKE TO PIGGY BACK ON THE INFORMATION THAT CAN AND -- KEN AND LARRY BROUGHT UP AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE STAKE HOLDERS, RESIDENTS, THE PUBLIC THAT HAS USED THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER BE INCLUDED IN ANY OF THE STUDIES THAT COME ALONG. WHO KNOWS THAT AREA BETTER THAN

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THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. WHO CARES ABOUT THE AREA MORE THAN THE PEOPLE THAT WR WRECK RECREATE THERE.

THEY NEED TO BE CLOSELY INVOLVED THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IS EVIDENCED BY KEN MANNINGS PICTURES THAT YOU JUST SAW. AND THAT IS A RAPIDLY FILLING RIVER AND THE PARK AREA AND THE PARK WHERE PEOPLE LAUNCHED THE KAYAKS ADD BOATS AND FISH. IT IS A PUBLIC AREA THAT NEEDS

TO BE PRESERVED. >> AND WHO KNOWS THE AREA BETTER AND FISHING GUIDES. OYSTER FARMERS ALL OVER.

THE RESIDENTS, WE'RE THERE ALL THE TIME.

THE BENEFITS OF THE FLOWING RIVER AND AWARE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE SILTING SYSTEM OUT THERE.

WITH THE GROWING POPULATION, WE NEED MORE OPEN WATER WAYS.

BEACH EROSION IS NOT UNIQUE TO SUMMER HAVEN.

IT IS EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTY AND ALL OVER THE STATE.

AND BREACHES THAT OCCUR WILL NOT TURN INTO PERMANENT INLETSMENT THEY WILL FILL UP WITH SAND AND SILT AND LEAVE THE RIVER CLOGGED AND NOT FLOWING.

REPAIRING THE DUNE SYSTEM ALONG THE SUMMER HAVEN BEACH IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSIVE AREAS THAT I KNOW OF TO MAINTAIN.

AND THE SAND IN THE RIVER IS USED FOR PUTTING BACK ON THE BERM WITH EARTH MOVING EQUIPMENT.

WE HAVE WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT TO DREDGE THE WATERWAY THEY DO EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS AND PLACE THAT SAND ON THE BEACH.

FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE RECREATIONAL, ENVIRONMENTAL ECONOMIC AND HISTORIC VALUE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY OF THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER.

I HOPE YOU TAKE STEPS TO PREVENT THIS AREA NOW AND IN THE FUTURE FOR THE FUTURE GENERAL RATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A NOTE HERE FOR STAFF THEY WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO SPEAK IN THE MIC WE HAVE A NODE PEOPLE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING.

THE VOLUME IS AT MAX CAPACITY. IF YOU WOULD DO US A FAVOR

SPEAK INTO THE MIC. >> CHUCK LOBNOWSKI.

I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE BUT A GOOD LENGTH OF TIME.

I HAVE SEEN THIS REPAIR DONE OVER AND OVER.

WE HAD ENGINEERS THAT LOOKED AT THIS REPAIRED WHAT HAVE THEY COME BACK TO THE COUNTY AND SAID NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WE ARE MOVING SAND AND PILING UP SAND AND EVERY STORM THAT COMES IN. ARE WE SELF-INFLICTING IN THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW? IF YOU LOOK HERE IN THE AREA HERE, THE INTERCOASTAL IS GETTING CHOKED.

THIS IS FROM THE SAND THAT'S PILED UP BACK TO CLOSE UP THE BREACH THAT'S THERE. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A NUMBER OF YEARS. DO WE CONTINUE TO POUR DOLLARS IN OR MAYBE MAKE IT SOLID LAND IN THERE? IT IS FILLING IN. MOTHER NATURE IS TAKING CARE OF THE ISSUE. IT'S GOING IN.

WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE. KY NOT SEE THE COUNTY SPENDING MILLIONS OVER AND OVER TO DO THE REPAIRS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

SHERRY BADGER, SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE.

IVE JUST -- I HATE FOR THE PEOPLE AT SUMMER HAVEN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY LIVED THERE.

IN 2004 THE COMMISSION PUT A BUILDING MORATORIUM ON SUMMER HAVEN BECAUSE IT WAS UNABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

WHEN THEY TOOK THE COUNTY TO COURT AND WON THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN DUMPING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR, EXCUSE ME BUT THE BEACH WANTS THE BAND BACK. THE LAW OF PHYSICS EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION AND EVERY TIME WE PUT SAND ON THE BEACH, GUESS WHAT? IT IS GOING SOMEWHERE WHEN THE CURRENT CHANGES. AND YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS SINCE 2004 WHEN THE LAND OWNERS

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TOOK THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO COURT FOR THE DECISION AND WON. OKAY.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS TO KEEP POURING MORE MONEY INTO IT. MY GRANDPARENTS RAISED ME AT THERE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE PROBLEM OF BEFORE WE STARTED PUMPING THE SAND ON THE BEACH WHERE PEOPLE COULD BUILD MILLION DOLLAR HOMES. THANK YOU.

FOR HEARING THIS MOTION TODAY AND LETTING US SPEAK TO IT.

I DID NOT PLAN TO SPEAK. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID, I LIVED IN A HOME ON THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER IN 1895 AND PRECEDED THE LAWSUIT THAT WAS REFERENCED. I WOULD REMIND THE COMMISSION AND OTHERS THAT THE CONVERSATION TODAY IS ABOUT NORTH SUMMER HAVEN AND RIVER. NORTH SUMMER HAVEN WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE LAWSUIT. NORTH SUMMER HAVEN DID IN 2008 GATHER TOGETHER, WORKED WITH THE COMMISSION AND WORKED WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY HIRED TAYLOR ENGINEERING, DESIGNED A DUNE.

TOOK SAND FROM THE RIVER. THAT DUNE IS THERE.

IT SURVIVED THE END OF MATTHEW, IRMA AND EVERYTHING SINCE THEN. THE DUNE TO THE SOUTH WHICH REFERENCINGS WHERE THE BREACHES ARE AND NOT DES DESIGNED BY TAYLOR ENGINEERING NOT RIGHT OR WRONG THE PROVE OF SOMETHING THAT WORKED IS RIGHT THERE OUR CHILDREN AND THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO USED THE RIVER AND USE THE AREA WHAT CAN BE DONE TO THE SOUTH THAT IS AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT WAS THE NORTH.

AND ONCE WE PROTECT THE RIVER. THE RIVER IS THE SHOCK ABSORBER. IT STOPS THE FLOW FROM GOING WESTWARD. IT PROVIDES THE FLOW THAT GOES OUT TO THE INLET. IT PROVIDES THE DRAINAGE FOR ALL OF THE WATERSHED, IT IS A VERY BROAD INVOLVED COMPLICATED ISSUE, THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU ALL IS WOULD YOU FUND A STUDY OF THAT? WE ENCOURAGE TO YOU DO SO.

>> JOSEPH MANTINI. AND I LIVE ON THE INLET.

SO WHEN I SEE THE REACTION OF THE INLET WHEN THE SUMMER HAVEN CLOSES OR IS BREACHED IT IS STARTLING.

YOU KNOW PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS THEY CALL THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER A DITCH OR YOU WILL LOSE THE INLET.

AND IT WILL NOT BE THAT MUCH TIME.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.

I SIT OUT THERE ON A SATURDAY OR A SUNDAY AND SEE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ENJOYING THAT INLET ON THE BEACH.

THESE ARE ALL MANY ARE TOURISTS AND THE INLET IS ONE OF THE JEWELS. YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE.

AND MAGICAL IT IS. YOU WILL LOSE THAT.

AND IT IS NOT A MATTER ABOUT THROWING A COUPLE OF MILLION AND MISTAKES MADE AND LET MOTHER NATURE TAKE IT BACK.

WE CAUSED THE PROBLEM YOU KNOW WE CAUSED THE PROBLEM.

AND THERE WAS SOME FIXES THAT TOOK PLACE.

ADD WHAT WE HAVE DONE TODAY. AND THE LAST FELLOW SAID.

THERE IS A SMALL AREA IN THE SOUTH BEND OF WHERE SUMMER HAVEN HAS BEEN BREACHING THAT CAN BE FIXED EASILY WITH NOT AS

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MUCH AS EVERYONE THINKS. WITHOUT THE SUMMER HAVEN RIVER YOU WILL LOSE THE INLET. I LIVED THERE.

YOU WATCH THE ANGER OF THAT WHEN THAT CLOSES AND BREACHES.

IT SILTS IT TURNS TO -- AND WERE YOU SHOWN THAT FLOW IT IS IMPORTANT. RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS BREACHED ON THE SOUTHERN END IT IS A INTERCOASTAL THIS IS NOT IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE BLOCKED THAT'S, YOU KNOW I LIVED THERE. WE SEE WE SEE THE TRANSFO TRANSFORMATION. I IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE INLET YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IT IS BREACHED NOW, CAN YOU NOT WAIT TO FIX IT YOU WILL HAVE DAMAGE IN THE PROCESS.

THE APPLAUSE OR SHOWS OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL T IS PART OF THE RULES OF DECORUM. YOU SUFFERED LONG THIS IS IMPORTANT I ASK THAT EVERYONE HERE THE RULES.

>> THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> LINDA GINN.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY MENTIONED TODAY AND THAT IS TH THAT, I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE NEED FOR THIS RIVER TO FLOW FOR THE RECREATION IT PROVIDES. I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT THERE IS A ST. JOHNS COUNTY PUBLIC PARK ON THE RIVER.

YOU HEAR FROM THE HOMEOWNERS THEY USE THE PARK TO LAUNCH BOATS AND KAYAKS. SUMMER HAVSON A PADDLE BOARD MECCA AND THE PICTURE THAT KEN SHOWED IS WHERE THE PARK IS.

YOU WILL NOT HAVE A PARK FOR RECREATION IF THAT SHOALS.

PEOPLE CANNOT GET THEIR BOATS IN AND OUT.

THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT AND ST. JOHNS NE NEEDS RECREATION. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT KEEPING THE RIVER OPEN. IT IS CRITICAL TO DO.

SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >>> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM? SEEING NONE WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP.

I MET WITH THE RESIDENTS OF SUMMER HOUSE THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTHERN MOST PART AT THE INLET AND IT IS HAVING SUBSTANTIAL EROSION. NOW THIS IS NOT MY EXPERTISE BUT APPEARED IT COULD BE AS A RESULT OF THE FLOW OF THE RIVER AT THIS POINT. I WAS WONDERING, WOULD IT BE UP FOR DISCUSSION TO TACK THAT AREA ON TO THE VULNERABILITY STUDY AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW THE COST, I CANNOT CONFIRM THEY ARE RELATED BUT THOUGHT I WOULD THROW IT OUT

FOR DISCUSSION. >> SO THE ANSWER IS YES.

I BELIEVE THE AREA AND AN ECONOMY OF SCALE AND WE CAN ADD A SCOPE TO LOOK AT THAT PICK AREA AND THE ECO SYSTEM THERE.

>> I THINK THAT'S A COST EFFECTIVE WAY.

SO WE DON'T REACTIVELY STUDY THAT AND TO PROACTIVELY DO

THAT. >> I HAVE SEEN THIS AS AN ENTIRE ECO SYSTEM AND THE INLET IS SURROUNDED BY ALL THE OTHER

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SUBPARTS BUT ONE SYSTEM AND THE AREA, I'M FAMILIAR I KNOW THAT.

>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONINGS. IT IS CONTROLLED BY ARMY CORPS. AND THEY WOULD NOT DREDGE IT;

THAT'S CORRECT. >> THE SANDBAR IS PART OF THE

FEDERAL PARK. >> I BELIEVE SO.

>> WOULD WE BE ALLOWED TO DREDG SOMETHING IN THE FEDERAL PARK

OR THE ARMY CORPS ENGINEER IN. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE COUNTY CAN DO THAT WITHOUT TALKING WITH THE DEFENSE TO SEE WHERE WE CAN JOINTLY DO THAT. I MEAN WE HAVE PERMITS WE DREDGE THE OFF SHORE SAND SOURCES.

THIS IS DIFFERENT. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING WE DREDGE MORE VULNERABLE THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE WITH THE FEDS.

AND THE STATE. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

YOU HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE SANDBAR.

THAT'S NOT A JURISDICTION THAT WE HAVE ANYWAY.

>> PERMITTING MAY NOT OCCUR. I TALKE TALKED ABOUT DREDGING IT A COUPLE OF TIMES THEY WOULD NOT DO IT.

THAT'S IN A THEY WILL NOT LET US ON THAT SIDE OF THE PARK.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WILL LET US SUSTAIN THE RIVER. I INTERVIEW UP PISHING THAT.

IT WAS DIFFERENT. I AGREE WITH MISS BADGER WHEN I WAS A KID WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SANDING IN THE UNTIL THEY STARTED PUTTING THE SAND ON THE BEACH.

YOU HAD IT THEY DREDGED IT. AND I CALLED THEM THE SAND HILLS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTRACOASTAL.

THEY PUT IT OUT THERE. THEY DRIVE IT UP.

BACK ON THE BEACH AND BACK HERE.

THAT'S A FINE SECTION THERE. YOU NOSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE SUSTAINABLE IN ALL REALITY BUT NICE TO HAVE THE ANSWERS IF YOU KNOW I THINK THEY ARE SIMPLE ANSWERS, I DON'T KNOW ALLOW US TO BRING IT OR QUESTIONSKY LISTEN TO AND THE TOWN HALL MEETING I GOT BLASTED BY TEAM I WAS THERE TO DEFEND MYSELF A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEY HAVE NEVER ALLOWED US IN THE FEMA PROJECTS TO PUT

ROCKS. >> THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS DIFFICULT TO PUT HARD STRUCTURES IN.

I THINK THAT THE -- AND PUT NATURAL SAND BACK IN THE BEACHS SO THAT'S, AGAIN, WE PUT THAT IN THE SLIDE TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE LOOK AT ALL THE OPTIONS AND STAND.

SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE HAVE ASKED ABOUT AND NEVER ALLOWED TO DO. REPLACEMENT WITH THE ROCKS WE FIXED THEM AFTER THE HURRICANE.

>> YES, SIR. >> BUT NOT PUT IN NEW.

FOR THE FEMA PROJECTS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT THOSE HARD STRUCTURES BACK. IT DID NOT PASS THE ENVIRONMENTAL AS WELL AS THE FUNDING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE COULD SEEK TO PUT THOSE STRUCTURES IN.

IF WE TALKED AND THE NATIONAL DISTRICT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO FUND SOME OF THAT DREDGING IF IT WAS NOT -- I THEY HAVE

DONE SOME. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO.

WE DID NOT GO THAT FAR DOWN AND BOARD DIRECTION AND THE DREDGING OF THE RIVER AND THAT'S WHY THE DISCUSSION WAS HERE. WE CAN GET BETTER DIRECTION FOR STAFF SEE WHAT AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IT COULD HAVE BEEN MY, WILL ALLOW US TO DO THE THINGS YET.

>> APPRECIATE IT. >> I THINK THAT TO PAUL'S POINT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DOLLARS.

WE HAVE THE DUTY BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE WILL FUND WHATEVER THE STUDY TELLS US IS THE REMEDY.

THE STUDY MAY REDEAL IT IS COST PROHIBITIVE.

WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE DOLLARS.

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I WILL VOTE YES TO FUND THE STUDY WE NEED THE ANSWERS.

THIS IS NOT STATIC WE'RE DEALING WITH WATER IT IS A FLUID ENVIRONMENT. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE THINGS THAT ARE TRUE TRUE TODAY.

AND CHANGED AND WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDED SOLUTIONS WHAT FUNDING FROM THE STATE GOVERNMENTS.

AND ENTITIES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND THE SOLUTION WOULD BE WE MOVE FORWARD.

ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD. >> THE OUTCOME PUT INTO THE SCOPE IS NOT ONLY PROVIDE US THE ANSWERS TO WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND HOW TO FIX IT. AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. IT IS NOT VIABLE SO THAT THIS STUDY ONE OF THOSE IS TELL US THOSE THINGS.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE ANSWERS. IN PLACE.

, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? , HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT THE INVOLVE AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE SOME -- WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE CURRENT WORK IN THE AREA?

>> SO, WITH THE STATE FROM THE FED SIDE AND LARGER CONVERSATION. EARLIER WE HAVE NOT GOT INTO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO WE NEED DIRECTION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BOARD WANTS US HOW FAR TO GO INTO.

WE JUST SCRATCHED THAT. SOME OPTIONS WHERE DO THEIR OWN

ASSESSMENT? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO BECAUSE OF THE AREA. I THINK THAT BUT NOT COME IN AND DO THE STUDY. AN ISSUE YOU HAVE A HIGHWAY THERE. AND I WOULD BE CURIOUS WHAT THE SERVICE IS WHAT THE FECT WILL BE.

THERE ARE ISSUES LATER BUT BEFORE WE SPEND MONEY FROM THE COUNTY AND WE WILL EXHAUST OUR EFFORTS.

I WILL SAY WITHOUT THEM HERE, I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN THEIR MOUTH FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THE ROAD RIGHT NOW IS NOT THREATENED SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THE ROAD IS NOT THREATENED.

AND THEY GET INVOLVED. SO, WE HAVE SCRATCHED THE SURFACE NOT JUST GET THE DOT PERSPECTIVE BUT OTHERS TO.

>> I WANT TO RESTRESS IN MY MIND THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD. AS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE 14 HOMES ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE AND THOSE ARE THE HOMES THE SUBJECT OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WE HAVE, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN ACCESS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE THAT IS PROBABLY LESS THAN 3% OF THE PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM IS WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION IN DECEMBER THE MANY, MANY HOMES, 275 TO BE EXACT, AND THEY'RE BEING IMPACTED, THEY THINK AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD EST THEY THINK AND THEY HAVE THAT IS BEING CAUSED BY A LACK OF FLOW IN THE SUMMER HAVEN REFER TO OFF SETS THE FLOW IN THE GOES INTO THE INLET. BUT THE POINT IS THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR THE SOUTHERN SPIT WHERE THE 14 HOMES ARE LOCATED THAT ARE SUBJECTED TO SEVERE -- NOT JUST EROSION BUT COLLAPSE T IS A BIG, THE WHOLE A MINUTE AGO ABOUT THE ECO SYSTEM AND THE HOMES AND SUMMER HOUSE AND THE INLET AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THE CORPS POSITION IS.

THAT MAY CHANGE, PAUL. I THINK WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THE STUDY AND I WILL ASK IF THERE IS A MOTION.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION. AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER OF $400,000 FROM RESERVE AND ALLOCATE THE VULNERABILITY STUDY IN SUMMER HAVEN RIVER AREA.

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>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WOULD WE DISCUSS ADDING THE SUMMER HOUSE? STUDY TO THIS PIGGY BACK.

>> I'M INCLUDING THAT. I THOUGHT WE DID.

>> THANK YOU; WE HAVE A MOTION. THAT'S APPROVED, THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE APPRECIATE THE INPUT.

>> CAN I ASK CAN WE GET STAFF TO REACH OUT AND BRING US AN ANSWERS WHETHER IT IS A WHITE PAPER.

I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ARE SIMPLE

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ANSWERS. THAT MAY NARROW THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY WILL ALLOW. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. I BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE'RE TO ITEM 2 ON THE AGENDA. AREN'T WE MOVING WE'RE GOING TO DO ITEM 2 AND SEE HOW FAR WE GET BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK.

ANYONE HERE WHO IS REMAINING ON ITEM 2? EVERYONE HAD IT? , ARE YOU DOING ITEM 2?

>> NONE, I HAVE NONE. >> NONE.

>> NONE. >> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> THANK YOU. AND MATT LAHTI, GULF STREAM DESIGN GROUP. AND WE HAVE A REZONING HERE IT IS ABOUT 1.3 ACRES SHORT OF THAT.

AND LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF LEWIS POINT AND OLD MOULTRIE WE HAVE A HATCH ON IT. THE EXISTING MEDICAL OFFICE FACILITY. THAT IS EXTENDED -- INTENDED TO PUT THEIR HEADQUARTERS HERE. AND CN AND RIGHT OF WAY THE RIGHT OF WAY HERE; THIS IS THE OLD FOOD LION FOOD SHOPPING HERE. MICHAELS.

MIXED USE PROPOSD ZONING TO OP.

COLOR RATION IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THEHATCH WE HAVE.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL ANSWER THEM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF MATT? >> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC

COMMENT, MR. FISHER. >> , I'M WILLIAM FISHER MCMAHON AVENUE. I'M FAMILIAR WITH EYE LANT WITH DOCTORS AND COLONEL ROY HILLMAN.

HIS PATIENTS ARE VETERANS FROM THREE DIFFERENT WARS.

HE WAS A DOCTOR ADD ANYBODY WHO CAN DO SURGERY ON A GUY THAT'S IN A HOLE IN THE GROUND, I TRUST THEM.

WHEN I GO TO HIS OFFICE TODAY THERE IS A WAITING LIST TO GET IN TO SEE A DOCTOR. AND THE EXPANSION WILL DEVIATE THAT I HOPE YOU APPROVE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE.

SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ENACT 2025 AND REZONING 2021-34.

[5. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-32 Unleashed Dog Park. Request to rezone approximately 2.37 acres of land from Commercial, General (CG) with Conditions to Commercial, Intensive (CI), and a request to rezone approximately 0.23 acres of land from Residential Manufactured/Mobile Home (RMH) to Commercial, Intensive (CI), specifically located at 6550 US 1 North, 6580 US 1 North, 100 Ronald Road, and 104 Ronald Road. The Planning and Zoning Agency (PZA) heard this request during their regularly scheduled public hearing on February 17, 2022. The item was recommended for approval with a vote of 6-1. Agency members discussed lighting, buffers, barking dogs and gates. There was public comment that discussed the location to residential and the appearance of an outdoor sports bar. Other public comments discussed the site providing a family-friendly atmosphere for clean, outdoor fun for both people and dogs.]

AND ISLAND DOCTORS OLD MOULTRIE, THAT PASSIONS 5-0.

>> MOVING ALONG THAT TAKES TO US NUMBER 5.

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>>> FRIDAY MARCH 25TH AT 2:30 AND REPPING THE APPLICANT THE ZON ON U.S. ONE AND THE JOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SIR.

>> AND I MED WITH KAREN TAYLOR REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT WILL BE.

>> ON MONDAY MARCH 28TH AT 10 A.M. KAREN TAYLOR AND APPLICANTS. WE DISCUSSED THE LOCATION AND WE DISCUSSED OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA THAT ARE LIKE WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING AND THEN WE GOT INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OPERATION. CURIOSITIES THAT I HAD ABOUT THE OPERATIONS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> SARA. >>> ON MONDAY MARCH 28TH 10 THEIR THINK I MET WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS TO THE AREA.

I MED WITH KAREN AND MR. WEEKS TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND ANY IMPACTS, WE HAVE WE MET WITH YOU AT DIFFERENT TIMES THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE REMEMBERED THEIR NAMES IN PARTICULAR.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE WITH CONDITIONS.

AND MOBILE HOME TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND IT IS FOR THE DOG PARK. I'LL BE QUICK.

I HAVE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT IT. IT DOES GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE IT IS. AND SOUTH OF INTERNATIONAL GULF

PARKWAY ALONG U.S.-1. >> AND THIS IS JUST CLOSER TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. IT IS SURROUNDED BY INTERNATIONAL TO THE SOUTH OF STOKES LANDING ROAD.

THIS IS WHAT YOU APPROVED WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR AS WELL.

AND QUICKER -- A CLOSER LOOK AND SHOWS YOU THIS IS A LONG AND NARROW SITE AND IT IS IN FRONT OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH OF IT AND THERE IS A DITCH IN THE MIDTHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A BIT. THIS GIVES YOU THE DITCH IT IS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION TO THE BACK.

AND IT WAS NOT ORIGINALLY ZONED.

SO. WE'RE DOING FIVE OVERALL PARCELS AND THEY ARE DETERMINED ON HERE THEY DO INCLUDE THE DITCH FOR THE 2.6 ACRES WE'RE REQUESTING.

IT IS FULLY WITHIN A MIXED USE AREA AND BY RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE USE FOR A DOG PARK FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE DOGS. THE COMMERCIAL DES DESIGNATION IT HAD WAS A SPECIFIC TO THAT PARTICULAR IT WAS A SUN ROOM TYPE OF FACILITY.

SO ANYWAY. THIS IS OUR REQUEST CAN YOU SEE THAT THERE IS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES UP AND DOWN AND OTHER CI, CW, IW, CG. AND, AGAIN THE OVERALL SITE 6.2 ACRES THE CI IS TO ACT TO WANT TO DO FOOD TRUCKS AND THE DOG PARK WITH ALCOHOL SALE CONSUMPTION.

THEY WOULD NOT USE THE SITE IN THE MANNER THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED. IT WAS A FURNITURE BUSINESS THAT WAS VERY SPECIFIC SO. THEY WANT TO BUILD A PARK THAT'S A MANAGED DOG PARK THAT HAD ACCESS FROM RONALD ROAD AND THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT WOULD STAY IN THE CG ZONING FOR THAT. AND THE OTHER SIDE WOULD BE ALONG U.S.-1 AND THAT'S THE AREA THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THE FOOD TRUCK COURT AND WITH CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PERMITTED THROUGH THE COUNTY.

THE AREA IS MIXED USE AND INDUSTRIAL AND SCATTERED AND SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST HAS BUILT IN SUFFERED AND DIVIDING THE TRAFFIC INTO TWO DIFFERENT AREAS AND THE IMPACT IS VERY

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THE VERY BEGINNING OF THAT. AND THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT'S FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES AND ONLY THE ACCESS WOULD BE FOR THE DOG PARK ALONG RON ALD ROAD ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THAT EASEMENT THAT I WAS DISCUSSING IN THERE.

THIS WOULD BE THE DOG PARK AREA WITH PARKING AS WELL AS THE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND OPEN DOG SPACE.

THE SECOND PORTION IS THE OTHER PARTIAL THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT WOULD BE SET UP FOR FOOD TRUCKS WHICH WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE DOG PARK AS WELL AS LOCAL RESIDENTS IN THE GENERAL AREA.

JUST SOME PICTURES, THAT'S THE SITE.

I MENTIONED TO COME OF YOU PEOPLE REMEMBER THIS BECAUSE SOMEBODY USED TO SELL DRIFT WOOD T IS AN ICONIC KIND OF THING. THIS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM HER, SHE IS BACK IN THE BUFFER.

TO SHOW YOU THOSE THAT ARE CREATED IN THE SITE.

THERE IS A BUSINESS ON -- SOUTH OF RONALD ROAD.

AN ENTRANCE TO THE SITE THIS IS LOOKING BACK.

YOU CAN SEE THE BUFFERS AND OPEN SPACE AREA AND RETENTION AREA. AGAIN THE HOUSE THAT WAS TO THE EAST ONE OF THEM WAS HAS BEEN REMOVED AND JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU TO U.S. 1 THAT'S THE LAND SCAPE BUSINESS.

THIS IS MORE FOR THE IDEA OF HAVING THE FACILITY AND THE SALES THE OTHER. THIS IS THE BELONGED THERE.

THAT'S DIFFERENT BUT SIMILAR ENTRANCE TO SOMEONE THRIVING.

THIS IS ON STOKES LANDING ROAD.

THAT'S NORTH OF THE SITE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THEY WORKFORCE HOUSING WILL BE BUILT.

A FEW PICTURES. I DID DISCUSS THIS WITH ALL OF YOU AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN ITEM WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

I THINK MY CLIENTS WOULD LIKE TO SAY A LITTLE MESSAGE.

, HELLO I'M JACKIE PIERSON, 14 WHITE STREET.

I'M ONE OF THE THREE OWNERS OF UNLEACHED BARK AND I HAVE MY TWO OTHER PARTNERS AND I WANTED TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR THE IDEA.

WE'RE EXCITED TO BE PRESENTING IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

AND OUR DOG PARK IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT.

WE HAVE SEEN THEM AND BUSINESSES LIKE THIS IN NEPTUNE BEACH. ST. PETE.

TAMPA AND AUSTIN, TEXAS, OTHER CITIES SIMILAR TO THAT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE SPACE TO ST. JOHN, WE WANT TO CREATE A FUN ENVIRONMENT THAT BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

WE PLAN TO HAVE A PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED STAFF ON BOARD KNOWN AS OUR BARK RANGERS TO ENSURE SAFE PLAY IN THE PARK AND PATRONS TO ENJOY, COFFEE TEA, BEER AND WINE AND VISITING THE PARK. WE WILL SERVE BEER AND WINE IN THE PARK, WE WILL NOT OPERATE AS A BAR.

LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO THE MOVIES AND ENJOY A GLASS OF WINE WE WANT TO ENJOY THESE AND ENJOYING THE PARK FACILITIES.

WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THE CONTAINERS.

THIS CAN BE USED BY REMOTE EMPLOYEES TO ALLOW THE DOGS TO PLAY WHILE THEY WORK OR KIDS TO COME AFTER SCHOOL AND FINISH THE HOMEWORK WITH THE FAMILY DOG.

WE ARE THRILLED TO BRING THE FAMILY FRIENDLY BUSINESS TO ST.

JOHNS AND THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND

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CONSIDERATION AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS FOR US WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

THAT YOU HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> NO QUESTIONS. SO WITH THAT, SO THE REQUEST IS FOR THE 2.6 ACRES THEY HAVE GIVEN YOU A GENERAL RULE OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PARK WAS GOING TO BE LIKE.

WE DID GO TO PZA, THEY GRANTED APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE THAT'S CONTINGENT ON THE VOTE TODAY FOR BEER AND WINE AND FOR THE DOG PARK AND FOR THE FOOD COURT AS WELL.

THIS WAS JUST KIND OF SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU KIND OF THE DEPTHS AND THIS IS DIFFICULT FOR ANY OTHER TYPE OF USE SO WE'RE KIND OF GREAT THAT THEY FOUND THIS FOR THEIR KIND OF USE, IT'S VERY -- IT'S NOT VERY DEEP ALONG THERE.

WITH THAT, WE FEEL LIKE THE ZONING CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS AGAINST IT BUT ONE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THIS TODAY TO REZONE THIS TO CI.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT? >> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 5. COME FORWARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AND CHUCK LOBANOWSKI.

IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. THE ONLY CONCERN BECAUSE OF THE STREAM THE MIDDLE YOU HAVE THE DOG SECTION THERE AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A TYPE OF NATURAL FILTRATION FOR THAT CAN BE PUT IN THERE. AND PREVENT THAT FROM ENTERING THE WATER AND KEEP IT CLEAN THAT WILL BE A GREAT ASSET TO THAT SECTION OF THE STREET. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 5? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM. >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROTOCOL. I WANTED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OUR PARK SHOWN WILL HAVE FENCING AND ASTROTURF AND THEN A FILTRATION SYSTEM AND YOU KNOW WHEN A DOG GOES TO THE PATH ROOM WELL PICK THAT UP OR DEAL WITH IT THAT WAY.

>> A INTEND TO MAINTAIN THE USE.

I WANTED TO ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

WHERE IS DISTRICT 5? >> THE MOTION TO ENACT 2022, APPROVE REZONING UNLEASH DOG PARK BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION BY THE CHAIRMAN AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER TEST.

THAT PASSES 5-0. GOOD LUCK.

THAT WILL BE FASCINATING. I WILL BE ANXIOUS TO BRING MY TWO PUPS. LET ME ASK THE BOARD.

IT'S NOON ALMOST. AND THE NEXT ITEM WILL PROBABLY HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, SOME SPEAKERS BUT NEVERTHELESS, I'M INCLINED TO DO WHATEVER THE COMMISSION WANTS.

[8. Public Hearing * PUD 2021-05 Deerfield Forest. Request to rezone approximately 37 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for the development of a maximum of 63 single family homes, located on the south side of Watson Road and west of Deerfield Meadows Circle. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this request on November 18, 2021 and voted 5-1 to recommend denial. The applicant requested reconsideration from the PZA on 12/16/2021 and they voted 6-0 to reconsider. The Planning and Zoning Agency heard this request during a public hearing on March 3, 2022. The item was recommended for approval with a vote of 4-3. Agency members discussed the US1/Watson intersection, drainage, access, safety, Deerfield Forest Drive, emergency access easement, and the railroad. There was public comment from several Deerfield Meadows residents and Carter Road residents. Public comments included: traffic, safety, and flooding; sections of Carter Road as a private road and privately maintained; single entrance off Watson; RV garages within Deerfield Meadows; construction access not updated in documents; no new documents filed by applicant; and railroad.]

TAKE A LUNCH BREAK NOW OR FINISH NUMBER 8 AND COME BACK WITH THE REMAINDER. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY PREFERENCE?

[6. Public Hearing * PUD 21-09 Bacon Storage (Brinkhoff Rd). Request to rezone approximately 4.9 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for up to 16,000 square feet of neighborhood commercial uses and a RV/Boat Storage facility. The Planning and Zoning Agency previously recommended denial with a vote of 6-0.The Board of County Commissioners remanded this item back to the Planning and Zoning Agency and required the Applicant to hold a community meeting on the project.]

PAUL? >> I'M GOOD.

>> LET'S DO 8 AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO THE DEERFIELD FOREST PROJECT NOW AND THOSE WHO ARE HERE FOR THAT, WE CAN BE DONE

WITH IT BEFORE WE BREAK. >> MR. CHAIR, THIS IS QUASI

JUDICIAL 678 >> NUMBER 8, SO DEERFIELD

ONER BLOCKER. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. CHAIRMAN I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF E-MAILS OPPOSING THIS PROJECT. I RECEIVED IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PARTIES.

I ALSO ON TUESDAY MARCH EIGHT APPROXIMATELY 12:30 P.M. I SPOKE WITH MRS. BRENDA WILLIAMS, A NEIGHBOR WHO OPPOSES THIS PROJECT AND OUTLINED HER ISSUES WHICH SHE BELIEVES WILL BE A

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HARMFUL IMPACT ON HER AND HER NEIGHBORS.

SPOKE APRIL 4TH WITH MR. JESSIE KILLBREW AND HIS ATTORNEY DR REPASS. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. OUTLINED THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND THE MITIGATION THEY WERE WILLING TO PUT FORTH IF THIS IS APPROVED IN ORDER TO MANAGE SOME OF THE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.

>> ON MONDAY MARCH 21ST, AT 11:30 A.M., I MET WITH MS. BRENDA WILLIAMS, THE NEIGHBOR OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.

SHE STATED HER CONCERNS, WHICH WERE, WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE.

SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE NOTES ON THAT.

MET THURSDAY MARCH 24 WITH MR. ALAN LORO.

I'M SORRY IF I PRONOUNCE THAT WRONG.

HE HAD A VERY DETAILED OUTLINE. WE HAVE ALL RECEIVED THAT E-MAIL ALSO OF HIS CONCERNS AND THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT WHEN IT CAME BEFORE THE P&Z AND THE BOARD.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MELISSA LUNDQUIST ABOUT CARTER ROAD BEING PRIVATE AND HER CONCERNS ABOUT THE OFFER TO MAKE AN EASEMENT TO CARTER ROAD. THOUGH THE OWNERS OF THE AREA WERE NOT INFORMED OF THE PRIVATE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN THE SUBDIVISION. I DID HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBOR ON CARTER ROAD, I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE HER NAME THEY CALLED ME.

I WAS DRIVING AND HER CONCERNS ABOUT THE ACCESS THAT WAS

MENTIONED TO GO TO CARTER ROAD. >> OKAY.

I HAD A MEETING ON MARCH 31 AT 10:30 WITH JESSIE KILLBREW AND DR TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT, THE LAYOUT AND THE IMPACT THEY WERE DEALING WITH AND WHAT THEY WERE DOOING ABOUT IT WITH WATSON AND U.S. 1. AND ALSO THE ISSUE OF THE WHAT THEY, I GUESS WE CALL THE VEGGIE TRAIN THAT MAKES A STOP THERE.

I WAS UNAWARE IF WE HAD POTATOES COME THROUGH.

ANYWAY. THAT WAS MY AND ALSO HAD A TELEPHONE CALL FROM BRENDA WILLIAMS PROBABLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. A LENGTHY CALL.

A TELEPHONE CALL NOT IN PERSON. >> ON MARCH EIGHTH, AT APPROXIMATELY NOON, BRENDA WILLIAMS AND SEVERAL OF HER NEIGHBORS COME IN AND TOOK A MEETING WITH ME AND STAFF IN THE OFFICE. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING THE PRIVACY OF CARTER ROAD AND YOU KNOW HOW IT RELATES TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT WAS THE CENTRAL CONCERN. MONDAY MARCH 28TH, 11:00 A.M., I MET WITH JESSIE KILLBREW AND STAFF IN THE OFFICE.

THEY DISCUSSED WITH ME THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.

SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE DONE TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FROM THE COUNTY AND THE DETAILS OF THEIR PROPERTY. I RECEIVED A NUMBER OF E-MAILS OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT WITH THE TWO THEMES BEING THE DEALING WITH WATER FLOODING CONCERNS AND THE PRIVACY OF CARTER ROAD.

>> CHAIR. >> YES, ON MONDAY APRIL 4TH AT APPROXIMATELY 10:00 A.M. I MET WITH JESSIE KILLBREW AND DISCUSSED WITH TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN.

I DROVE THE AREA ON MARCH 29TH AND SPOKE WITH MELISSA LUNDQUIST AND MS. WILLIAMS ABOUT CARTER ROAD BEING PRIVATE.

>> HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> HEARING US BEFORE THE LUNCH BREAK.

I AM DR REPASS. I AM AN ATTORNEY BY TRADE BUT I'M WITH THE ALLSUP COMPANIES AND HERE TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT WITH YOU ALL. YOU HAVE GOT A FEW DOCUMENTS THAT GAVE YOU JUST FOR EASE OF REFERENCE.

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SORRY ABOUT THAT. OUR PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS LABELED DF THERE. 37 ACRE PARCEL THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE RES B COMP PLAN. TWO UNITS PER ACRE AS YOU KNOW.

IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED OR WHICH CALLS FOR ONE UNIT PER ACRE.

AND WE ARE ASKING TO REZONE IT TO PUD TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT BASICALLY PHASE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE HAVE NO FURTHER OPEN COMMENTS FROM COUNTY STAFF. WE HAVE TRAFFIC CONCURRENCY.

WE HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH HERE IS DEERFIELD TRACE. IT IS 74 LOT SINGLE-FAMILY SUBDIVISION. AND IT IS THIS NEIGHBORING PHASE ONE COMMUNITY IS DEERFIELD MEADOWS.

IT'S ALL A 74-LOT SUBDIVISION ALL SINGLE FAMILY.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THESE PARCELS.

DEERFIELD FOREST AND MEADOWS STARTED UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP.

THAT'S HOW IT WAS DEVELOPED, AND THE ACCESS IS DEER FIELD FOREST DRIVE HERE. TO WATSON ROAD AND TO U.S. 1 IS THE INTERSECTION. SO, TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE INTERCONNECTIVITY ON THIS. AS I MENTIONED, THEY WERE BOTH PROPERTIES WERE OWNED AND THIS IS THE NEXT SHEET AT YOUR PACKET. BOTH PROPERTIES WERE OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER AND AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE HERE AT DEERFIELD MEADOWS.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT OBJECTED TO THE ZONING FROM DEERFIELD MEADOWS BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY DON'T WANT MORE CARS AND THESE ARE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS.

IN 2017 WHEN DEERFIELD MEADOWS WAS DONE, IT WAS ALWAYS PLANNED AND CONTEMPLATED THIS ACCESS WOULD ADJOIN THE NEXT PHASE.

THAT'S WHERE THIS ROAD IS CALLED DEERFIELD FOREST DRIVE.

IT'S ALL BEEN PLANNED THAT WAY. THE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN BUILT THAT WAY. THE AGAIN THIS IS THE ORDINANCE, THE FINAL ORDINANCE FOR DEERFIELD MEADOWS, 2017-47.

IT'S RECORDED, OF COURSE, IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS.

ONE OF THE PAGES IN HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DEERFIELD MEADOWS AND OUR PROJECT DEERFIELD FOREST SAYS INTERCONNECTIVITY IS PROVIDED THROUGH WATSON ROAD AND ACCESS PROVIDER FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FOR PROPERTIES TO THE WEST. SO THAT IS IN, THAT IS IN EVERYBODY THAT IS, THAT LIVES IN DEERFIELD MEADOWS, THEY ALL TOOK TITLE TO THEIR HOUSES WITH A REFERENCE TO THAT DOCUMENT IN THEIR CHAIN OF TITLE. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE PUD.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, OKAY, SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING LEGAL KNOWLEDGE, WHETHER OR NOT THE BUILDERS WERE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THERE OR WHEN IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S ALSO SUBDIVISION IS CONSTRUCTED JUST THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THIS IS, THIS IS THAT ROADWAY THAT YOU, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE FUTURE ACCESS. YOU SEE THE SIDEWALK LEADING TO

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OUR PROPERTY. YOU SEE THE ROAD LEADING IN FOR ACCESS FOR THE FUTURE PHASE. SO IN YOU WILL HEAR TODAY AND I'M SURE YOU ALREADY HEARD YOU HAVE PEOPLE OPPOSING THE DEVELOPMENT THAT LIVE HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT ANY MORE PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THESE PUBLIC ROADWAYS THAT MAY PASS THEIR HOUSE. YOU HAVE RESIDENTS IN DEERFIELD TRACE THAT HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT DRAINAGE WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL. BUT THE INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THIS PROPERTY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN AN OR ZONING HERE, WHICH AGAIN IS ONE UNIT PER ACRE. SO AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE CAN DO AN OR SUBDIVISION. WE CAN DO 37 LOTS IN HERE TODAY.

AND SO WE HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE, SHOULD WE BE DOING AN OR SUBDIVISION RIGHT HERE WITH ONE ACRE LOTS AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE AND COMMON IN OR SUBDIVISIONS. YOU HAVE MOBILE HOMES.

ANY TYPE OF MANUFACTURED HOMES. YOU HAVE AGRICULTURAL HORSES, COWS, GOATS ALL THAT. SO THIS ROAD HERE CONNECTING TO INTERCONNECTIVITY AGAIN WE'RE ASKING FOR PUD TO HAVE A SIMILAR DEED RESTRICTED COMMUNITY WITH COVENANT AND RESTRICTIONS BUILT OUT EXACTLY THE SAME OR SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR AS DEERFIELD TRACE TO THE NORTH AND DEERFIELD MEADOWS TO THE EAST.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO IF WE LEAVE IT AS OR SUBDIVISION, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT DEERFIELD MEADOWS. THAT WON'T BE AS MANY SETBACKS AND BUFFERS. THERE WILL BE ONE ACRE LOTS AND EVERYBODY IN DEERFIELD TRACE THAT IS HOPING THIS JUST STAYING FOREST AND THEY CAN ENJOY IN THE SAME IT WON'T BE THAT WAY.

IT WILL BECOME OR IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO DO THE PUD PLANNED COMMUNITY. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE IS HISTORY TO THIS PROJECT. ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO THE PROJECT A DIFFERENT PROJECT, NOT THE SAME PROJECT BUT A DIFFERENT PROJECT WAS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT THEN.

AND ULTIMATELY IT WAS DENIED BY THE BOARD.

AND IN LOOKING AT THE HISTORY AND TALKING WITH EVERYONE INVOLVED, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PRIMARY REASONS WHY THEY WERE COMPLAINTS BROUGHT AND THE BOARD ULTIMATELY DECIDED TO DENY IT.

I'M NOT SAYING WE AGREE IT SHOULD BE DENIED BACK THEN BUT IT WAS. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS THIS INTERSECTION AT U.S. 1 AND WATSON ROAD.

THEY WERE COMPLAINTS. THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND IT'S A BAD INTERSECTION AND THERE ARE PORTIONS OF WATSON ROAD THAT ARE NARROW AND NEEDED TO BE WIDENED.

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

SO ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS ANYTHING RELATED TO THE RAILROAD ALREADY EXIST. BUT, WHEN THE ALLSUP COMPANIES APPROACHED THIS PROJECT, WE WANTED TO ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WAS A CONCERN BEFORE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE GONE

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OVER AND ABOVE AND PROVIDED A SOLUTION TO ANY POSSIBLE ISSUE THAT CAME BEFORE. AND THE FIRST ONE THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AND WE HAVE KINLEY HORN HERE MR. BILL SHILLING IS TO DISCUSS THE U.S. 1 WATSON ROAD INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH THE WATSON ROAD WIDENING THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.

>> COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS BILL SHILLING.

12740 GRAND BAY PARK WAY WEST SUITE 2350.

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I'M A LICENSED IN TRANSPORTATION. KINLEY HORN WAS ASKED TO AND I WAS ASKED TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT POTENTIAL TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS. ONE OF THOSE BEING AT U.S. 1 AND WATSON ROAD INTERSECTION WHICH WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND HAVE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT COMMITTED TO MAKE AT THE INTERSECTION. I WILL START WITH THIS EXHIBIT, THIS IS A LITTLE ZOOMED OUT. THIS IS THE INTERSECTION WITH U.S. 1. WATSON ROAD, THE CVS, THE PHARMACY IN THE SOUTHEAST QUA QUADRANT. WHAT WE LOOKED AT TODAY, THERE ARE 2 APPROACH LANES ON THE WESTERN LEG OF THE INTERSECTION.

ONE IS A THROUGH LANE AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION.

1 IS APPROACH LANE INTO THE INTERSECTION.

THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO CONSTRUCTING A 3 APPROACH LANE WHICH IS SHOWN AS THIS GRAY PAVEMENT RIGHT HERE.

THAT WILL BECOME A THROUGH RIGHT TURN LANE AT THE INTERSECTION AND THEN ALSO ALLOW FOR A SEPARATE LEFT TURN LANE.

THIS ADDRESSES SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT I THINK RESIDENTS HAVE RAISED. IT ALSO ADDRESSES CONCERNS THAT STAFF HAVE RAISED IN THAT TODAY IS RECOGNIZED THAT THE EAST AND WEST ALIGNMENT OR THE APPROACHES OF THESE INTERSECTIONS DON'T ALIGN, THEY'RE SKEWED AND SIGNIFICANTLY SKEWED.

WHEN YOU'RE IN THIS THROUGH LANE TODAY, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY VEER TO THE RIGHT. THIS WILL CORRECT THAT SKEW OR THIS WILL IMPROVE I SHOULDN'T SAY CORRECT.

THIS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE SKEW BY ROUGHLY 11 TO 12 FEET. AS YOU CAN SEE TODAY ON THE APPROACH LANE. THE THROUGH LANE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE. IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH.

YOU'RE ACTUALLY HAVING TO VEER TO THE RIGHT.

THIS WILL MOVE THE THROUGH LANE 12 FEET AND IMPROVE THAT ALIGNMENT AT THE INTERSECTION TODAY.

THIS FIGURE DOES A LITTLE BETTER JOB OF SHOWING THAT NEW PAVEMENT. AS A PART OF THIS, WE ALSO ANTICIPATE WE WILL BE IMPROVING THE SMALLS IN THE SIGNAL HEADS AT THE INTERSECTION TO ALIGN WITH THE NEW LANAGE AND WE NEED TO ADJUST THIS SIGNAL TO BASICALLY GET IT OUT OF THE WAY OF THE PAVEMENT. THE APPLICANT COMMITTING TO THE IMPROVEMENT. THE OTHER IMPROVEMENT THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED I BELIEVE BY RESIDENTS AND ALSO BY STAFF THAT STAFF IDENTIFIED IS ON WATSON ROAD ITSELF.

AND THIS IS BETWEEN THE, SO BETWEEN THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

THIS IS THE SEGMENT OF ROAD WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

COMING UP TO CRESCENT TECHNICAL COURT.

THIS SEGMENT OF ROADWAY IS ONLY ABOUT 20 FEET WIDE.

SO ROUGHLY TWO 10-FOOT WIDE ROADS.

THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO WIDENING THAT TO A 25-FOOT WIDE ROADWAY WITH 212 FOOT LANES. ROUGHLY 950 FEET OF ROADWAY THAT WILL BE WIDENED. I WILL TURN IT BACK TO MR. REPASS AND AM AVAILABLE AT THE END OF PRESENTATION FOR ANY

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TRAFFIC QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

THESE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE IN YOUR PACKET BUT, THIS IS KIND OF A BETTER VIEW OF HOW WATSON ROAD IS OFF SET. YOU CAN INVISION THE TURN LANE AND DEDICATED BEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE TO BETTER LINE THEM UP.

THE ESTIMATE FOR JUST THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS PROBABLY SIX MONTHS IS $740,000.

THAT'S YOU KNOW, ENGINEER BOOK ESTIMATES.

IT'S NOT BASED ON ACTUAL BIDS. WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO GO UP SUBSTANTIALLY FROM THERE. AND THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE 840 FEET OF ROADWAY. SO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING WELL OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO U.S. 1 AND WATSON ROAD, AND THE INTERSECTION AND THE WIDENING OF WATSON ROAD. THIS IS SOMETHING FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THE PREVIOUS APPLICANTS REFUSAL TO ADDRESS ACKNOWLEDGE OR DO ANYTHING ON THE ISSUE IS KIND OF WHAT LED DOWN THE ROAD OF JUST BEING FLAT OUT DENIED. IT WAS NEVER ADDRESSED.

ITS SOMETHING THAT THE ALL DOMINICAN REPUBLIC SUP COMPANIES SAID WE CAN IMPROVE. AS YOU CAN SEE, BACK TO YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

THE WATSON ROAD INTERSECTION IS WAY DOWN HERE.

SO EVERYBODY EAST AND WEST OF THE RAILROAD IS GOING TO BENEFIT OFF OF THESE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ROAD WIDENING OF WATSON ROAD. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WAS A CONCERN AT THE LAST GO AROUND THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED AND I BELIEVE PROVIDED A PARTIAL SOLUTION ALTHOUGH IT WAS JUST A COMMENT TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT. WE DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.

WE THINK IT SHOULD BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE TEXT.

THIS CONCERN ABOUT THERE BEING NO SECONDARY ACCESS DUE TO THE RAILROAD TRACK, JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT BY THE COUNTY STAFF ANYTHING UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT REQUIRES A SECONDARY ACCESS.

THE ONLY REASON IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AGAIN WAS BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS FROM THE PROPOSAL FOUR YEARS AGO. SO, IMMEDIATELY MR. KILLBREW WITH THE ALL SUP GOT AN AGREEMENT IN FAVOR OF THE COUNTY TO GO THROUGH THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY HERE AND ADJOIN CARTER ROAD. CARTER ROAD IS A PUBLIC ROAD UP TO WILD WOOD DRIVE. AROUND THIS HAILEY LANE INTERSECTION ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE THE EASEMENT IS A PRIVATE ROAD. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ROAD AND BEAUTIFUL RESIDENCES. THERE'S A PORTION THAT SAYS WE WILL OBTAIN THE EASEMENT FOR THE COUNTY WHICH WE HAVE DONE, KEEP IN MIND, THE EASEMENT THAT WE OBTAINED IS JUST THROUGH THIS PROPERTY TO ADJOIN CARTER ROAD. SO IF THE COUNTY WANTED CARTER ROAD TO BE AN EVACUATION ROUTE, IT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE, WHETHER BY IMMINENT DOMAIN OR AGREEMENT BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO OPEN UP FOR EVACUATION PURPOSES, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE IN THE FUTURE. WE CANNOT DO THAT, DUE TO THE FACT THE ROAD IS A PRIVATE ROAD. FOR EVERYBODY HERE FOR CARTER ROAD, WE THINK THIS IS A RED HERRING AND SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE TEXT AND SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE REGARDING THE SECONDARY ACCESS. IT'S NOT APPROVED.

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WE ASK THAT TEXT ABOUT OBTAINING THE SECONDARY ACCESS TO CARTER ROAD BE REMOVED. REGARDING SO CALLED CONCERN FOR THE SECONDARY ACCESS, RELATES TO THIS RAILROAD CROSSING RIGHTS HERE. SO THIS IS WATSON ROAD AND THE RAILROAD. THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IS OWNED BY FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD.

AND THE WAY THIS PROPERTY IS USED RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE CONFIRMATION IN YOUR MATERIAL ABOUT THIS.

BUT, THE WAY IT'S USED RIGHT NOW IS TWICE A MONTH, APPROXIMATELY TWICE A MONTH RAIL CARS ARE BROUGHT FROM THE NORTH COMING FROM WASHINGTON STATE, AND THEY DELIVER POTATOES AND ONIONS.

THESE WHITE CARS RIGHT HERE ARE REFRIGERATED CARS CLIMATE CONTROLLED CARS FULL OF POTATO AND ONIONS FROM WASHINGTON STATE. WHAT HAPPENS IS THE TRAIN APPROACHES FROM THE NORTH. BEFORE IT GETS TO WATSON ROAD INTERCHANGE, IT DISCONNECTS, THE CARS BEHIND, CONTAINING THE POTATOES AND ONIONS PROCEEDS TO GO BACK UP ON THIS SWITCH AND DROP THE POTATOES AND ONIONS AND HOOK BACK UP AND TAKE OFF.

AND SO I COMMUNICATED WITH FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCEDURE. I WENT DOWN AND WATCHED IT LAST MONDAY AT 1 O'CLOCK. THE WHOLE PROCESS REMARKABLY TOOK 4:30. I'M NOT SAYING THERE ISN'T AN INTERSECTION BLOCKED FOR A MINUTE OR TWO LONGER OR SHORTER, BUT THIS IS THE CURRENT USE OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND THAT IS THE ONLY USE OF THIS PROPERTY BY FLORIDA EAST COAST AND THAT IS THE ONLY TIME FLORIDA EAST COAST BLOCKS THIS RAILROAD TO DELIVER POTATOES AND ONIONS.

THIS WAS USED AS A REASON TO COMMENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT FOUR YEARS AGO, AND THE BOARD DECIDED TO SAY THE LACK OF SECONDARY ACCESS WAS A CONCERN AND THE PROPOSAL WAS DENIED.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED, AGAIN SECONDARY ACCESS IS NOT REQUIRED, THE BOARD -- BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE SECONDARY ACCESS, THE BOARD IS NOT REQUIRED TO DENY IT.

WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PICTURE YOU CAN SEE.

THIS IS THE TRAIN NOW ON THE LAST 30, 45 SECONDS.

THEY BACK UP HERE, CONNECT THE CAR AND TAKE OFF.

IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS.

THIS IS ME TAKING THIS PICTURE. THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT WERE STOPPED AT THE INTERSECTION LAST MONDAY WHEN THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS GOING ON RIGHT HERE. AGAIN, YOU HAVE GOT AN E-MAIL IN YOUR PACKET AND I CORRESPONDED WITH FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD ABOUT THIS AND I JUST REAL QUICK SAID THIS IS TO THE GENERAL COUNCIL'S OFFICE BAB LADOUX IS THE GENERAL COUNSEL.

THIS PAST MONDAY, MARCH 28, I HAD THE PRESSURE EVER GOING TO SEE THE 1:00 P.M. RAIL DROP OFF LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WATSON ROAD IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS FARMERS IN THAT FACILITY IS USING FOR THE UNLOADING OF POTATOES AND ONIONS THAT COME FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.

THE TRAIN APPROACHING IN THE NORTH AND PRIOR GETTING TO THE RAILROAD DISCONNECTS THE CARS BEHIND THE CAR AND PROCEEDS SOUTH ACROSS WATSON ROAD. THE RAILROAD CARS ARE BACKED ON TO THE SWITCH WHERE IT BRANCHES OFF AND THE DISCONNECTED AND THE TRAIN PULLS OUT OF THE SWITCH AND PROCEEDS TO CONNECT TO THE REMAINING RAIL CARS. THE ENTIRE PROCESS BLOCKED THE WATSON ROAD FOR APPROXIMATELY 4:30.

COULD YOU PLEASE REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL AND CONFIRM MY SUMMARY ABOVE ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE USE OF THE LOCATION SO I CAN SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH THE ST. JOHNS BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REGARDING THE PROPOSED 63 LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WEST OF THE RAILROAD CROSSING.

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YOU WILL SEE IN THAT E-MAIL YESTERDAY AFTERNOON MR. LADOUX'S OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT IS A CORRECT AND ACCURATE REFLECTION OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE PROPERTY.

THERE IS A STATUTE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO FURTHER PROTECT ANY RAILROAD BLOCKAGES THAT A RAILROAD IF IT IS BLOCKING, TAKE THIS POTATO AND ONION EXAMPLE. DURING THE FOUR AND A HALF TO WHATEVER, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN MINUTES IT'S THERE.

IF IT'S BLOCKING THAT INTERSECTION AND THERE'S AN AMBULANCE TRYING TO GET TO DEERFIELD TRACE OR MEADOWS OR FOREST OR ANYBODY WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

BY LAW, BY LAW, THE RAILROAD CROSS -- THE TRAIN THAT IS BLOCKING THE RAILROAD HIGHWAY CROSSING MUST BE CUT, SEPARATED OR MOVED FROM THE CROSSING ON THE APPROACH OF ANY EMERGENCY VEHICLE. I WATCHED THEM DO IT.

IT'S VERY EFFICIENT AND QUICK. TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS OR TO BE REZONED TO PUD BECAUSE WE HAVE POTATOES AND ONIONS COMING FROM STATE OF WASHINGTON WHERE THEY CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW ARE BLOCKING THE INTERSECTION FOR A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TIME TWICE A MONTH DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

IT DOESN'T, IT CERTAINLY IN OUR OPINION WOULD NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THE NEED TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THE PAIN WITH THE RESIDENTS ON CARTER ROAD TO OPEN UP CARTER ROAD FOR A THEORETICAL SECONDARY EMERGENCY ACCESS NOT NEEDED.

WE SUGGEST THAT BE REMOVED FROM THE TEXT IN THE EVENT THE BOARD ELECTS, DECIDES TO APPROVE IT. THERE'S ALSO BEEN, THE OTHER THING THAT ALL SUP HAS COME UP WITH THAT IS WAS NEVER OFFERED IN THE DEVELOPMENT BEFORE IS WE HAVE OBTAINED AN ALTERNATE CONSTRUCTION ROUTE. SO WHEN THIS SUBDIVISION IS BEING DEVELOPED, THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WILL COME OFF OF WATSON ROAD ON THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST ALL THE WAY DOWN SOUTH AND THEN OVER TO GET TO OUR PROPERTY.

WE YOU KNOW BY LAW CAN USE WATSON ROAD DEERFIELD FOREST DRIVE, MEADOW CROSSING DRIVE. THOSE ARE ALL PUBLIC ROADS.

THEY ALL ABUT TO OUR PROPERTY AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THOSE ROADS AND PAID MONEY TO TRY TO OFFER SOMETHING TO THESE RESIDENTS TO MOVE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT WAS NEVER OFFERED UP BEFORE.

YOU HAVE ALSO HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT DRAINAGE, POTENTIAL DRAINAGE PROBLEMS RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP DAVID TAYLOR TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT. HE IS CAN DUNN AND ASSOCIATES

AND JACKSONVILLE. >> IF YOU WILL STAY THERE, DAVID, MR. TAYLOR, YOU ARE A HAVE A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN 1984 FROM TENNESSEE TECHNOLOGICAL

IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> YOU MAJORED IN CIVIL AND STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> AND THEN YOU HOLD A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATE FROM

THE STATE OF FLORIDA. >> CORRECT.

>> CAN YOU TELL US IN GENERAL WHAT IS YOUR WORK EXPERIENCE BEEN RELATED TO SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND DRAINAGE

PROJECTS? >> I HAVE BEEN DOING DRAINAGE PROJECTING FOR 30 YEARS, SPECIALIZING IN STORMWATER DESIGN AND PERMITTING. AND SO CAN YOU SITTING HERE TODAY COUNT HOW MANY PROJECTS YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR STORMWATER DRAINAGE RELATED TO SINGLE FAMILY PROJECTS PERMITTING THROUGH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT?

>> I DID NOT KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO ASK ME THAT QUESTION.

I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT. I HAVE NOT TALLIED THEM UP BUT

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IMAGINE IT WOULD BE 50 TO 75. PROBABLY IN THE 30 YEARS.

>> MR. TAYLOR, BACK TO THIS DEERFIELD FOREST PROJECT, THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS AND YOU I BELIEVE READ SOME OF THE MATTERS OF OPPOSITION AND CONCERN ABOUT DRAINAGE ISSUES RELATED TO DEERFIELD TRACE AND DEERFIELD MEADOWS TO THE EAST, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT DEERFIELD FOREST UNDER THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE PRELIMINARILY COME UP OF 63 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

HAVE AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS DEERFIELD FOREST DEVELOPMENT AND THE 63 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS WOULD HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON EITHER DEERFIELD TRACE OR DEERFIELD

MEADOWS? >> NO, SIR, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS TO EITHER SUBDIVISION.

I WOULD LIKE FOR MR. TAYLOR TO RUN THROUGH THE ACTUAL DRAINAGE PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WILL TRY TO GO PRETTY QUICK. I DID READ ALL THE COMMENTS THAT DR SENT ME. BASICALLY THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE PROJECT BOUNDARY AND THE PROJECT IS BORDERING A FLOOD ZONE A WHICH IS BASICALLY A FLOOD ZONE THAT HAS NO ELEVATION DETERMINED. BASICALLY IT'S A SWAMP.

IT'S ASSUMED TO BE A FLOOD AREA BUT IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED WITH ELEVATIONS. THEY WERE PRIOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE IN THE AREA. LET ME SHOW YOU THE BOTTOM ONE FIRST. THIS IS THE PROJECT HERE THAT BASICALLY DRAINS TO THE WEST. THIS IS FROM THE COUNTY GIS MAP.

THERE'S AN EXISTING DITCH THAT TRAVELS TO THE NORTH.

ALL THE WAY UP TO WILD WOOD. THIS IS THE MDP AND BASICALLY I HAVE TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THE DRAINAGE FLOW PATTERNS FOR YOU.

BASICALLY THIS LOCATION HERE IS WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING SWALE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DEER FIELD. THAT TRAVELS THROUGH AN EXISTING DITCH TO THE NORTHWEST. THE PROPOSED DESIGN WOULD BASICALLY BE TAKING THIS DITCH AND DIVERTING THE FLOW AROUND THE EAST SIZE ARE SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE TO THE POINT WHERE IT DISCHARGED BEFORE. DEERFIELD DISCHARGES INTO THIS WETLAND VIA EASEMENT THAT WOULD TIE INTO THIS DITCH.

THIS PROJECT WOULD ALL DRAIN TO THE LAKE HERE AND BE INTERCONNECTED AND BE DISCHARGED TO THE WEST.

NO FLOW FROM THIS SUBDIVISION TRAVELS TO EITHER ONE OF THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISIONS. BASICALLY ANY FLOW FROM THE BACK OF THOSE YARDS WOULD BE DIVERTED INTO THIS SWALE WHICH WOULD PROBABLY MAKE THINGS BETTER. AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN TO BORE YOU.

THEY WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FLOW.

IT MAYBE DIFFICULT TO READ THIS. THIS IS THE EXISTING DITCH OUT THERE. THE DITCH BOTTOM ELEVATION AT THIS LOCATION WAS 25.7. TO THE NORTH, THE ELEVATION IS 24. JUST TO SHOW YOU.

THERE WAS QUESTIONS AT LUZ ABOUT THE FLOW OF THE DITCH.

I JUST WANTED DO POINT THAT OUT. I WILL TRY TO HURRY.

THIS IS DEERFIELD MEADOWS. BASICALLY THAT PROJECT DISCHARGES INTO THEIR POND AND THAT DISCHARGED INTO THE WETLANDS. AND ON THE PRIOR PLANS SAYS TWO MOLDRY CREEK IS WHERE THE FLOW GOES.

JUST A COUPLE SHOTS. THIS IS THE LOT GRADING PLAN FOR THE DEER FIELD MEADOWS FINISH FLOOR ELEVATION 32.5.

THE GROUND IS 25. THE GROUND IS AT 25.

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THIS IS DOER FIELD TRACE. THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH.

THERE IS A PIPE THAT DRAINS TO THE WEST.

AND THEN THE PONDS FROM DEER FIELD TRACE ARE INTERCONNECTED.

THEY DRAIN TO THE WEST INTO THE EXISTING DITCH.

THAT FLOWS NORTH TO MOULDRY CREEK.

AGAIN THEIR FINISHED FLOORS ARE 32.

THE GROUND IS 29. THIS WAS THE MAP OF THE COMPLAINTS I GOT. I DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY ON HERE.

MOST OF THEM LIVE ACROSS WATSON ROAD.

LAST BUT YOU NOT LEAST IS MY TRUE SKETCH OF THE EXISTING SITES. THERE WOULD BE NO FLOW TOWARD THE EXISTING HOMES. I HAD JUST A COUPLE NOTES I WANTED. SOME OF THE COMMENTS.

WE DID NOT SEE ANY PROVIDED PICTURES OR RECORDS OF FILED COMPLAINTS FOR THOSE ISSUES. THEY WERE BASICALLY HEARSAY SAYING MY PROPERTY AS FLOODED. THERE MAYBE SOME CURRENT MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THE POND.

THEY SAID THE POND WAS IN POOR MAINTENANCE.

IF IT IS ADJACENT TO A FLOOD ZONE A, WE WILL REROUTE AN EXISTING DRAINAGE DITCH THAT TRAVERSES THROUGH THE SITE.

WE WILL MEET ALL LOCAL AND STATE REGULATIONS.

WE WILL NOT, WE WILL REDUCE THE RATE IN WHICH THE WATER LEAVES THE SITE. WE HAVE TO MEET PREPOST ATTENUATION. THE RATE AT WHICH THIS WATER LEAVES THE PROPERTY WILL BE LESS THAN IT IS TODAY.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE THINGS AS ALWAYS WE WANT TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. THANK YOU.

>> LET ME ASK WHILE YOU'RE THERE IF I MAY A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SO, YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T APPLIED YET FOR YOUR STORMWATER MASTER

PLAN FROM WATER MANAGEMENT. >> NO, SIR.

BUT YOU HAVE THE PLANS TO SUBMIT THAT YOU SHOWED US.

>> CORRECT. >> THE FIRST FLOOR ELEVATION OF YOUR PROPOSED PROJECT IS GOING TO BE NO GREATER THAN THE FIRST FLOOR ELEVATION OF THOSE OTHER TWO SUBDIVISIONS, IS THAT A

CORRECT STATEMENT? >> I CANNOT ANSWER THAT.

THE BECAUSE CODE HAS CHANGED SOMEWHAT SINCE WHEN THOSE WERE DONE. WOULD OUR FINISH FLOOR BE HIGHER THAN THE HOMES? IT'S POSSIBLE.

HOWEVER, THE DISTRICT NOW HAS GOTTEN REALLY TOUGH ON HAVING ANY INDIRECT FLOW. SO BASICALLY ALL THE YARDS HAVE TO FLOW TO THE ROAD AND TO THE POND.

BUT EVEN IF OUR HOUSES WERE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THEIRS, WE ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM THEM BY THIS DITCH.

SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT THE WATER FROM THIS PROJECT COULD MIGRATE OVER TO THOSE YARDS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A FOUR FOOT DEEP, FIVE FOOT DEEP SWALE BEHIND THE HOUSES.

>> OKAY. SO BY -- USING YOUR WORDS THIS IS CURRENTLY A SWAMP. THERE WILL HAVE TO BE QUITE A BIT OF FILL TO DO THIS DEERFIELD PROJECT BROUGHT IN?

>> PROBABLY. WE HAVEN'T DONE THE DESIGN ON GRADING. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. MOST OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE SEEING IN JACKSONVILLE THAT ARE ADJACENT TO WETLANDS OR IN WETLANDS HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FILL.

>> IF YOU SUBMIT YOUR PLAN IF IT'S APPROVED TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, YOUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WILL SHOW WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE DITCH OR CANAL OF THE

WATER WILL FLOW WEST NOT >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> NOT NORTH. >> YOU WILL MEET THE

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO REVIEW THE BID IN THERE.

THANK YOU. >> I HAD ONE QUESTION MR. CHAIRMAN. SO FAR.

MR. TAYLOR, YOU'RE GOING TO WRAP AROUND AND GO TO.

WHO OWNS THAT DITCH? >> THE DITCH WE WILL TIE

>> YES. ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>> MULTIPLE HOMEOWNERS. THE PROPERTY OWNER.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S UNDER ANY EASEMENT I SAW.

>> Y'ALL HAVE PERMISSION TO TIE INTO THEIR DITCHES?

>> WE HAVE PERMISSION TO DISCHARGE INTO THE SAME LOCATION WE DID. YOU CAN'T BLOCK ANYBODY'S

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DRAINAGE. >> HOW WILL YOU DO THE LOT TO THE SOUTH? IT DIDN'T START THERE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A CREEK. AN OLD CREEK BOTTOM OR DITCH THAT COMES FROM THE SOUTH GOING NORTH THERE THAT.

>> THE DITCH THAT RUNS BEHIND DEER FIELD.

>> THAT RUNS THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY.

DOES IT GO SOUTH? >> IT GOES FROM THE EAST.

IT COMES EAST TO WEST. SO DOESN'T GO SOUTH?

>> NO, SIR. >> EVEN THOUGH THE BRANCH DOES.

>> I'M SORRY. >> THERE'S A SWAMP BRANCH.

>> THE SWAMP RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH.

THAT DITCH THAT WE'RE SHOWING IS COMING FROM THE EAST SIDE OF

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

MR. TAYLOR PUT THIS UP BUT THIS AGAIN IS THE M.V.P. FOR DEERFIELD FOREST IF APPROVED. SO UP HERE TO THE NORTH IS DEERFIELD TRACE. RIGHT HERE IS EXISTING DEERFIELD MEADOWS. SO AGAIN, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE HERE IS OR, OPEN RURAL ZONING. WE CURRENTLY CAN PROCEED WITH AN OR SUBDIVISION WHICH AGAIN IS ONE ACRE LOTS.

CAN INCLUDE MOBILE HOMES AND AGRICULTURE AND ALSO INCLUDE ACCESSORY FAMILY UNITS WHICH IS AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE STRUCTURE THAT IS MADE FOR FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND THOSE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT GOES WITH OR. SO YOU CAN HAVE TWO STRUCTURES, CAN'T BE SOLD SEPARATELY. YOU CAN HAVE TWO STRUCTURES ON ONE ACRE OPEN RURAL LOT. I MEAN IT IS, IF WE'RE, IF THE CONCERN IS TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH, WE CAN END UP WITH MORE PEOPLE LIVING BACK HERE IN AN OR SUBDIVISION THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN A SIMILAR DEED RESTRICTED RESIDENCE.

I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORS DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT WE'RE ALREADY OPEN RURAL AND TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING OUT HERE BETTER. THE ACCESS BETTER.

WATSON ROAD U.S. ONE BETTER. TRY TO BRING CONSTRUCTION AROUND. IF IT STAYS OR, THESE HOUSES IN DEER FIELD TRACE OR DEER FIELD MEADOWS WON'T HAVE THIS OPEN SPACE. THEY WILL HAVE, NOW THEIR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR DRIVING IN HERE FROM DEERFIELD MEADOWS.

THERE'S NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WILL BE SOMEONE WITH NO BUFFER.

COULD BE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RESIDENCE.

COULD BE A MOBILE HOME WITH A BARN AND HORSE.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN AND COMPATIBILITY, LEAVING IT OR DOES NOT ACCOMPLISH THAT.

IT'S NO LONGER REASONABLE, THE WAY THIS WAS INTERCONNECTED FROM THE BEGINNING. IT'S NO LONGER REASONABLE TO STICK WITH AN OR ZONING HERE. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE LANDOWNER FOR THE SURROUNDING UNITS.

IT SERVES NO LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S DIRECTION ON YOU KNOW ON A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING AND WHEN WE'RE GOING FROM ONE ZONING TO ANOTHER, THERE'S GOT TO BE A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE TO NOT MOVE IT FROM OR, CHANGE IT FROM OR TO PUD.

WE'RE NOT ACCOMPLISHING THAT IF WE LEAVE IN OR.

THERE IS NO LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE.

ONLY THAN TO YOU KNOW HEAR CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS.

BUT THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOING AWAY.

IT WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT WHETHER IT'S OR OR PUD.

WE THINK PUD THE WAY WE PROPOSED WITH THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, TYING IN WITH EXISTING DEERFIELD MEADOWS IS THE WAY TO GO. IF APPROVED WE WOULD RECOMMEND

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TO DO AWAY WITH THE SECONDARY ACCESS LANGUAGE CARTER ROAD AND LEAVE CARTER ROAD ALONE THE THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS? PUBLIC COMMENT? AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 8.

DEERFIELD FOREST. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANTICIPATING A FEW PEOPLE.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IF PEOPLE WOULD LINE UP AT THE PODIUMS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BOTH PODIUMS AND GO BACK AND FORTH.

YES, SIR. >> HI, I AM DERRICK HESSY, I LIVE IN DEER FIELD MEADOWS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN DEER FIELD MEADOWS HAVE BEEN BEEN PROVIDED COVENANTS WHICH HAVE A STATEMENT ABOUT FUTURE ACCESS THROUGH DEERFIELD MEADOWS CIRCLE. IN FACT I WAS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD WHEN THIS COMMUNITY WAS FIRST TURNED OVER IN NOVEMBER OF 2020. SO I WAS ON THE FIRST BOARD AFTER THE DEVELOPER TURNED IT OVER.

ONE OF FIRST PROBLEMS WE DEALT WITH ON THE HOA BOARD.

DISCOVERED THEY WERE TWO SEPARATE SETS OF CCAS, COVENANTS FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. ONE WAS DATED 2007 AND ONE WAS DATED 2018 WHICH MR. REPASS SHOWED YOU.

THEY WERE TWO DIFFERENT BUILDERS IN THE DEERFIELD MEADOWS COMMUNITY. RICHMOND AMERICAN HOMES AND DREAM FINDERS HOMES. SO ONLY THE RICHMOND AMERICAN HOMES WERE PROVIDED THE 2018 CCAS.

HE IS NOT CORRECT IN STATING EVERYONE WAS AWARE THERE WAS FUTURE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH DEERFIELD MEADOWS.

WE HAD TO SORT THAT ISSUE OUT WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD BECAUSE HALF THE HOMEOWNERS GOT ONE SET OF CCAS AND HALF GOT THE OTHER AND THEY WERE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS AWARE THAT'S AN ISSUE. THE SECOND THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ACCESS ROAD.

HE TALKED ABOUT THAT. THE ISSUE THERE IS THAT WHEN YOU READ THAT, IT'S ONE YEAR WITH A TWO-YEAR MAX UNLESS BOTH PARTIES, THE LANDOWNER THAT GRANTED IT AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO EXTEND IT. HE'S PAYING $2,000 A MONTH WHEN HE USES IT. SO OUR CONCERN IS THAT AFTER TWO YEARS FOR THE REMAINING THREE YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION, HE WILL USE OUR STREETS ANYWAY. YOU ALREADY HEARD ABOUT THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DIRT THAT WILL HAVE TO BE BROUGHT IN TO FILL IN THE SWAMP LAND. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF DISINGENIUS FROM THE DEVELOPER. THERE WILL BE AN AWFUL LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR AND CONGESTION WHEN HE USES STREETS.

IF SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERED IMPORTANT AND THE ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER ARE DEVELOPERS MAKING EVEN MORE MONEY, AND UNCONSTRAINED GROWTH, ST. JOHNS COUNTY WON'T BE A PLACE PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE. SO I WOULD REALLY STRONGLY URGE THE COMMISSIONERS TO DISAPPROVE THIS PROPOSED PUD AGAIN AND NOT ALLOW THIS TO COME BACK UNTIL ALL THE ISSUES THAT OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DEERFIELD TRACE COMMUNITY HAS RAISED SATISFACTORY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

>> THANK YOU, SIR. YES, MA'AM.

>> HI, MY NAME IS BRENDA WILLIAMS. I LIVE AT 4712 CARTER ROAD. IN LIGHT OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT MR., BEING THAT MR. KILLBREE TOOK CARTER ROAD OUT.

I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU LISTENING TO ME AND REALIZING THIS IS AN ILLEGAL USE OF ROADWAY.

SPECIAL THANKS TO CHRISTEEN YOUR ATTORNEY WHO BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND STILL AND THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING WHY IT'S GOTTEN THIS FAR.

THERE WAS A NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND YET IT WAS JUST MOVED ON AND NOBODY EVER QUESTIONED THIS USE OF CARTER ROAD.

WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING BECAUSE WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED.

AGAIN ON THE MARCH THIRD MEETING, AGAIN STAYED IN.

IT STAYED IN THERE UNTIL WE GOT TO YOU.

AND WHY? THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WHY? IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE UNDUE STRESS THAT YOU PUT US THROUGH.

THE WORK WE MISSED. EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THIS. AND NOW IT'S OUT WHICH IS GREAT.

WE'RE APPRECIATIVE. WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN. WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS

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STRESS AGAIN. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MY APPRECIATION FOR ALL YOUR

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> YES, SIR.

ALAN LOERL. 12 FLAGLER BOULEVARD.

CONDOLENCES MR. WALDRON TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO IT.

I WAS A CHIEF IN THE TRANSIT FOR NEW YORK CITY.

I WAS INVOLVED WITH 15 DERAILMENTS WITH HAZARDOUS MATERIALS AND IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS HE SAID.

ANYWAY. IN REGARDS TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH DEERFIELD MEADOWS. THIS IS 2017 WITH 74 HOMES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, 55 HOMES ARE AFFECTED IN THE RED WITH ANYONE COMING OFF WATSON ROAD THROUGH INTO DEER FIELD MEADOWS OR FOREST OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. I HAVE DEALT WITH THIS SINCE 2006 WITH MICHAEL BRANNIF WHO OWNED DEERFIELD MEADOWS.

WHAT HIS DESIGN WAS IN 2004. THIS IS WATSON ROAD.

HIS IDEA WAS FROM MINIMAL IMPACT SPO THE OPEN RURAL.

IS TO COME THROUGH HERE, THE BLACK AND HERE'S HIS RIGHT-OF-WAY AFFECTING SIX HOMES.

HE DIDN'T WANT TO LAND LOCK THE OWNER CLENOMS BIAT OF THE OPEN RURAL PROVIDE. HAD TO PROVIDE AN ACCESS WITH THAT AND IT WAS A GREAT IDEA AND GREAT CONCEPT.

OBVIOUSLY THESE APPLICANTS CAN'T BUY THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH BECAUSE IT WAS WETLANDS. THEY THOUGHT ABOUT PURCHASING THE PROPERTY OVER A CUP OF COFFEE.

WHEN THEY DRAINED FOR DEERFIELD TRACE, LAKE WOODWARD AND LAKE BARKER, THEY NOTICED THREE TO FOUR YEARS LATER THIS PROPERTY ABOUT FIVE TO SIX ACRES TURNED INTO UPLANDS.

THEY SAID MAYBE WE COULD PUT 10, 12 LUXURY HOMES ON THIS.

THEY KNEW IT WAS WETLANDS. TO SHOW THAT, THIS IS THE 25 YEAR STORM MAP. AND I IMPOSED DEERFIELD FOREST.

DEERFIELD FOREST. THIS MAP IS A MEASURABLE DEPTH OF THE WATER AND THE RESULTS OF THE COUNTY STORMWATER.

IN A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT, THERE'S DEERFIELD FOREST.

WHAT THEIR DESIGNS WERE IS BEYOND ME.

FINALLY, WE NEVER DISCUSSED WATSON ROAD IN THE 1.2 MILES.

IT'S STILL DEVOID OF PAYMENT WIDTHS, LIGHTING AND DRAINING.

TO ALLOW 63 MORE HOMES IS COMPOUNDING.

WITH DR REPASS SAYING THERE'S NO NEED, HOW DO WE AVOID THAT?

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> HI, MY NAME IS GEORGE PASTORNAK.

226 MEADOW CROSSING DRIVE IN DEERFIELD MEADOWS DEVELOPMENT.

I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HERE.

THIS WAS TURNED DOWN THREE TIMES ALREADY FOR GOOD REASON.

AND THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE, ON WATSON ROAD AND ROUTE ONE REALLY ISN'T RELEVANT.

AND AS FAR AS THE TRAIN GOES, HE SAYS THAT THE TRAIN ONLY COMES TWICE A MONTH. FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S FOUR TIMES BECAUSE IT'S GOT TO UNLOAD AND LOAD.

SO THAT'S FOUR TIMES COMES. AND IT'S MORE THAN TWICE A MONTH. IT COMES AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK TO DROP CARS OFF. WE LIVE THERE AND HEAR IT.

AND THAT LITTLE BIT OF TRAFFIC HE SHOWED IS PROBABLY ON A MONDAY 10 O'CLOCK SOME TIME. THAT'S PROBABLY THE CARS YOU'RE GOING TO GET. NOW ADD 600 MORE PEOPLE.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO BACK UP TWO OR THREE CARS BUT ALL THE WAY TO THE DEVELOPMENT. ALL THIS STUFF HE'S GOING TO IMPROVE AS NO EFFECT ON IT. FIRST HE WAS GOING TO MAKE EGRESS ROAD GOING OUT. THEN FOUND OUT I GOT CAUGHT IN A LIE OF THOSE PEOPLE WEREN'T INFORMED ABOUT THAT ROAD COMING THROUGH. THIS IS JUST LUDICROUS, THE WHOLE THING IS CRAZY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.

THE PLAN WAS ALREADY IN EFFECT WHEN OUR HOMES WERE BUILD AND MAYBE THAT'S TRUE. PLANS CHANGE.

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I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS STILL A BIG ISSUE.

THEY NEED TO JUST STOP WASTING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY AND TIME AND MOVE ALONG. MAYBE SOME DAY WATSON WOOD WILL GO TO 95. UNTIL THEN, I DON'T SEE THIS BEING AN ISSUE. THEN NOW HE'S THREATENING US BY PUTTING WE'RE GOING TO PUT MOBILE HOMES IN THERE THEN SEE HOW THEY LIKE THAT. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT HE JUST SAID. HOW IS THAT? THAT'S NOT EVEN PROFESSIONAL. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO

>> THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

>> MY NAME IS MIKE BURKE. I LIVE AT 318 DEERFIELD GLEN DRIVE IN THE DEERFIELD TRACE SUBDIVISION AND LIVED THERE SINCE APRIL OF 2015. CAN YOU ZOOM THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT SO IT SHOWS A LONGER VIEW? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THANK YOU. SO THEY SAY A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE DRAINAGE DITCH TO THE NORTH SIDE OF DEER FIELD TRACE SUBDIVISION. THERE ARE 27 HOMES THAT EITHER BACK UP TO THE EXISTING DRAINAGE DITCH AROUND DEER FIELD TRACE OR WOULD HAVE ONE IF THEIR BACKYARD IF DEER FIELD FOREST WAS BUILT.

I PERSONALLY WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND SPOKE TO ALL 27 HOMEOWNERS WITH THE HELP OF ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS AND A BOARD MEMBER.

THERE'S A UNANIMOUS CONCERN ABOUT MAJOR FLOODING BY ADDING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE WATER TO AN ALREADY-FAILING DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTY, I'M SURE YOUR JOB AS COMMISSIONERS ARE DIFFICULT.

BUT IT'S UP TO YOU TO VOTE NO TO NEW PROJECTS THAT ENDANGER THE HOMES OF EXISTING CITIZENS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS IS TO WORK TO ENSURE THAT THE CITIZENS CONCERNS ARE MET AND TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. WE NEED YOUR HELP.

PLEASE VOTE NO TO DEERFIELD FOREST.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

MY NAME IS RICK BARTEL. I LIVE AT 208 DEERFIELD GLEN DRIVE. MY ISSUE IS WITH DRAINAGE WITH DEERFIELD FOREST. HOWEVER, ON A PREVIOUS PICTURE I SAW CONCERNING THE INTERSECTION OF 1 AND WATSON AND THE DEVELOPER POSSIBLY PUTTING IN ANOTHER LANE 12 FOOT LANE, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PICTURE, YOU WILL SEE THERE IS STILL QUITE A DISPARITY BETWEEN THE WATSON EAST AND WATSON WEST.

SO TO ME, THAT IS, THAT WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO BE A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. AGAIN MY SITUATION HAS TO DO WITH THE WATER. I DO THANK YOU.

I SENT AN E-MAIL TO ALL OF YOU LATE IN THE SESSION.

AND I MUST SAY I THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, COMMISSION WALDRON, MS. ARNOLD AND MR. WHITEHURST FOR, WHITEHURST SORRY FOR RESPONDING TO ME.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. LIVING IN FLORIDA WE HAVE WATER ISSUES AND I'M SURE YOU BEING ON THE COMMITTEE ARE FAMILIAR WITH COUNTY AND STATE REGULATIONS AND LAWS CONCERNING IT.

PARAPHRASING THIS RULE, SOME STATE VS A REASONABLE USE RULE.

THIS RULE STATES THAT A NEIGHBOR OR ENTITY MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGE CAUSED BY WATER DUE TO UNREASONABLE ALTERATION TO THE NATURAL FLOW OF WATER. ANOTHER IS THE NATURAL FLOW.

THE NATURAL FLOW IMPOSING LIABILITY ON WHOEVER CHANGES LAND IN A MANNER THAT ALTERS THE WATER.

I HAVE A POND ON ONE SIDE. TO A FIELD DITCH BEHIND MY HOUSE. YOU HAVE SEEN A PICTURE OF THAT

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DITCH. IT'S AT LEAST ALWAYS FULL IN THE DRY SEASON. IF THAT DITCH NOW DRAINS, DEER FIELD TRACE SUBDIVISION. DEER FIELD MEADOWS SUBDIVISION AND POTENTIALLY DEER FIELD FOREST SUBDIVISION, HOW HIGHER MY CHANCES ARE BEING FLOODED OUT? SO IS IT NECESSARY TO PERHAPS THINKING ABOUT SELLING MY HOME? I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I HAVE THE HIGHEST RESPECT FOR YOUR BODY AND WE NEED YOU AS ADVOCATE. THANKS AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU. SIR.

ANONYMOUS ALAN BISHOP. I LIVE IN DEERFIELD MEADOWS.

I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THIS.

IT HAS BEEN DEFEATED THREE TIMES.

IT CAME BEFORE THE PZA AND ASKED FOR A REHEARING.

IT WAS DEFEATED UNANIMOUSLY. ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET A FIVE TO ONE OPPOSITION. THEN MR. REPASS COMES IN AND PLEADS FOR A REHEARING. THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET THIS REHEARING AND LOW AND BEHOLD THE PZA RECOMMENDS 4-3.

WONDER HOW THAT HAPPENED. FOLKS, THIS THING HAS BEEN ON GOING AND ON GOING. AND IT'S TIME FOR IT TO STOP.

WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE AND I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE WATSON ROAD TRAFFIC ISSUES. EVEN WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY PROPOSED, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT.

THIS HERE IS A STRIP CENTER UNDER DEVELOPMENT IN THE INTERSECTION OF WATSON ROAD. THERE IS AN ENTRANCE 200 FEET AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS THEY DO TO THE INTERSECTION WILL BE AFFECT BIDE THAT STREET. JUST RECENTLY AND BY THIS MORNING, THERE'S A NEW HEARING ON REZONING THIS APPROXIMATELY 16 ACRES DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE STRIP CENTER FOR UP TO 204 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO HAVE ON WATSON ROAD? NOW IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE FIND OUT THAT 2 PARCELS OF ROAD AT THE TERMINAL HAVE BEEN SOLD.

I HEARD IT HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR UP TO 120 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE 63 UNITS BEING PROPOSED FOR DEERFIELD FOREST. HOW MUCH MORE TRAFFIC IS THAT GOING TO PUT ON WATSON ROAD? I DON'T CARE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY DO UNLESS THEY MAKE IT FOUR LANES THROUGH THERE.

THAT WILL BE A MAJOR REQUIREMENT TO INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT DONE ON WATSON ROAD TO PREVENT FURTHER ACCESS AND POTENTIAL DEATHS. ANYTHING THAT MUST BE DONE DOWN THERE, NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY HAS TO BE APPROVED BY FLORIDA DOT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN.

I ASK YOU PLEASE OPPOSE THIS PUD AND LET'S PUT IT TO BED ONCE AND FOR ALL AND JUST AS AN ASIDE, I BELIEVE I WOULD RATHER HAVE A MOBILE HOME WITH A BARN AND A HORSE TRAVERSING THE STREETS OF DEER FIELD MEADOWS AS OPPOSED TO 680 TRIPS DESIGNATED BY THE PREVIOUS SIR.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> HI, MY NAME IS VALERIE FRANCIS. I LIVE AT 314 DEER FIELD GLEN DRIVE. I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I HAVE, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE FLOODING AND THE DRAINAGE WHICH MY NEIGHBORS ALREADY SPOKE TO. I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF.

THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS OF DEER FIELD TRACE, DEER FIELD MEADOWS AND POTENTIAL DEER FIELD FOREST IF THAT EVER PASSED. WATSON ROAD HAS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. OUR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. THERE'S NO SECONDARY ACCESS.

THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN 2018.

WHEN IT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD, IT WAS SHOT DOWN FOR THESE SPECIFIC REASONS. HERE WE ARE TWO YEARS LATER AND WE DON'T HAVE A SECONDARY WAY OUT.

CARTER ROAD I GUESS THEY CAME IN WITH A PLAN THAT WERE GOING TO PUT UP A FENCE. IT WAS A NARROW ROAD.

THE RESIDENTS WEREN'T EVEN AWARE OF IT.

IF AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE NEEDED TO GET IN, THEY WERE GOING TO OPEN THE GATE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A ALL.

I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE ON THE RECEIVING END OF AN EMERGENCY

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AND A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL HAS TO OPEN A GATE TO GET INTO THE AREA. WE HAVE LOTS OF PEDESTRIANS WALKING AROUND. WE HAVE PEOPLE WALKING THEIR PETS. THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS ON WATSON ROAD. THE TRAIN DOES NOT COME ONCE A MONTH OR ONCE A WEEK. THE TRAIN COMES ONCE A DAY SEVERAL TIMES A DAY. YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT TO HEARING IT. THE TRAIN DOES BLOCK THE AREA.

I THINK I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PROGRESS, I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE A NICE DEVELOPMENT, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER WAY OUT TO ROUTE 207. U.S. 1.

THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER SECONDARY ROAD IN ORDER FOR THIS TO PASS. I AM JUST SPEAKING TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS OF DEER FIELD TRACE.

DEER FIELD MEADOWS AND POTENTIALLY DEERFIELD FOREST AND WATSON ROAD. AND I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMEN JUST SAID ABOUT THE PLAZA GOING UP ON THE END OF U.S. 1 AND WATSON ROAD. I KNOW BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS ON APRIL 21ST, YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING OF MULTI-FAMILY HOMES. I DID CALL THE BOARD AND FOUND OUT THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVEN BUILDINGS PROPOSED, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THREE LEVELS. THAT WILL FUNNEL OUT OF WATSON ROAD AS WELL IN ADDITION TO U.S. 1.

SO, I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MA'AM.

>> YES, SIR. MY NAME IS IS MARK.

I LIVE IN 295 DEER FIELD MEADOWS CIRCLE.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY.

BACK IN 2018, AT THE BCC MEETING ON THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, ONE COMMISSIONER STATED WE ARE DELAYING A DEAD HORSE BECAUSE THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A SINGLE POINT ACCESS BLOCKED BY RAILROAD TRACKS AND WE JUST HEARD HERE TODAY THAT IT'S NOT ONLY RAILROAD TRACKS THAT THERE'S AN ACTUAL RAIL YARD THERE AND DENIED BY THE DEVELOPER BACK IN NOVEMBER AT THE PZA MEETING. THEY STATED WAS FOR SALE.

BUT THERE'S APPROACHES AND DISTRIBUTOR AND THEY BLOCK THE TRACKS USUALLY FOR 10 OR 15 MINUTES FROM WHAT MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE TIMED. AND THEN ALSO TODAY THEY MENTIONED THAT THAT'S THE ONLY USE OF THAT RAIL YARD THERE, DR. HILLSENBECK AT THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING BROUGHT THIS UP. THERE'S MAINTENANCE CREWS THAT USE THAT TRACK. ONE DAY I WAS GOING TO THE AIRPORT AND HAD A MECHANICAL PROBLEM WITH THE TRUCK THEY WERE LOADING UP ON TO THE TRACKS AT THAT INTERSECTION WHERE THE GEARING WOULDN'T COME DOWN. I WAS STUCK THERE FOR 20 MINUTES. THE ISSUE WAS THEY WERE DELYING A DEAD HORSE BECAUSE THEY WERE FED UP WITH HEARING FROM EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES THAT WERE BEING BLOCKED BY THESE RAILROAD TRACKS. IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY EXIT OUT.

SO IN A CASE OF HEART ATTACK OR HOUSE ON FIRE, BY THE TIME YOU SAW WHATEVER WAS GOING ON, IT'S GOING TO DELAY THE ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW. TRIPLE QUADRUPLE THE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE. RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S ABOUT SIX MINUTES. SO REALLY, YOU KNOW LIKE JUST DISCUSSING WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT TODAY HERE, YOU KNOW I JUST CAN'T FORESEE YOU BE THAT IT WAS VOTED DOWN BACK IN 2018.

FOR THIS PARTICULAR REASON. AND THEN THE ISSUE SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOT WORSE TODAY BECAUSE THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC AT THAT YARD THAT WE WOULD GO AHEAD WITH THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING ME

OUT TODAY. >> YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SUSAN SMART. I LIVE AT 246 DEER FIELD GLEN DIVE IN THE DEER FIELD TRACE SUBDIVISION.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS VIDEO.

PROBABLY NOT VERY WELL. MY NEIGHBOR EARLIER SHOWED A PICTURE AND THE PICTURE HE SHOWED WAS ACTUALLY MY BACKYARD.

YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE DRAINAGE DITCH.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS CORRECT DRAINAGE DITCH, YOU KNOW THIS DRAINAGE DITCH IS A DRAINAGE DITCH IN NAME ONLY.

IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE. ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM

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OUR PROPERTY, SOMEONE HAS DAMMED THAT DITCH.

IT'S GREEN AND STAGNANT AND YUCKY.

ONCE A NEAR ST. JOHNS COMES OUT AND SNAKES AND PUT IT OVER ON THE EDGE OF THE BANKS AND WHEN WE GET A GOOD RAIN IT COMES AND WASHES IT ALL BACK IN AND TO THAT DRAINAGE DITCH AGAIN AND WE HAVE THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

IT'S LIKE A VICIOUS CYCLE. JUST BECAUSE THE SITUATION EXISTS AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE SAID EARLIER, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S OKAY. JUST BECAUSE THINGS ARE A CERTAIN WAY, BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACCESS NOW DOESN'T MEAN THAT IS OKAY. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THE DRAINAGE FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO TAP INTO THIS STAGNANT NONDRAINING SYSTEM WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY RESULT IN DRAINING.

THIS IS MY DREAM HOME. I DON'T WANT TO BE FLOODED.

STORM DRAINS AND STREAMS IS DESIGNED TO CARRY AWAY WATER DURING A STORM AND HELP PREVENT FLOODS.

WHEN THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, FLOODING OCCURS AND SUBJECTING OTHERWISE SAFE PROPERTIES TO UNNECESSARY DAMAGE.

WE ARE ALL VERY COMPASSIONATE, CONCERNED HOMEOWNERS HERE TODAY.

AND WE REQUEST THAT EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE WILL BE DONE TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR HOMES AND OUR PROPERTY.

FROM POTENTIAL FLOODING AND FROM THE HAZARDS THAT COME FROM THAT.

IN CLOSING, PERSONALLY ON A SIDE NOTE, I LOVE POTATOES AND ONIONS. IN A QUESTION TO YOU, WHAT ARE THE PLANS TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THE DAMMED CULVERT, NOT THE DAMN CULVERT BUT THE DAMMED CULVERT.

CAN YOU REPRESENTING THE BEST FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY GO ON RECORD AND ASSURE US IN THIS PUBLIC VENUE THAT YOU, YOUR ENGINEERS AND DEVELOPERS HAVE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO PROTECT US FROM THIS DRAINAGE PROBLEM? AND IF IT WERE YOUR HOME AND YOUR PROPERTY, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WE DON'T WANT TO END UP LIKE SAN MARCOS IN JACKSONVILLE. WE WANT TO BE SAFE AND

PROACTIVE. >> I ASK THAT YOU FURNISH A COPY OF THE VIDEO TO THE STAFF IF YOU CAN THROUGH MAIL.

>> GOOD MORNING, I AM JERRY BENCELY.

251 DEER FIELD GLEN DRIVE IN DEERFIELD TRACE.

MY COMMUNITY ALSO ASKED WHO WANTED TO COME OUT AND TALK.

THAT WOULD BE ME. DEER FIELD TRACE AS WE KNOW IS ON A NO FLOOD ZONE OF 0.2 % OR LESS OF NO FLOODING.

THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT FOR MY HUSBAND AND MYSELF TO MOVE TO THE COMMUNITY. DEER FIELD TRACES NO FLOOD ZONE GAVE US THE ABILITY TO OPT OUT OF EXPENSE OF FLOOD INSURANCE AND GAVE US THE REASSURANCE OUR PROPERTY EXISTS IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT DURING STORMS. OUR CANAL WAS DESIGNED TO PREVENT OVER FLOW BUT HAS ALREADY CAUSED AN ISSUE IN DEER FIELD TRACE'S COMMUNITY. THEREFORE AN ADDITIONAL THIRD COMMUNITY, DEER FIELD FOREST SHARING A SINGLE COMMUNITY'S DRAINAGE SYSTEM ALREADY PIGGING BACK DEER FIELD MEADOWS SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BECOME A NOAH AND THE ARK DURING FLOODING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS COULD BE TOLERATED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I AM HERE TODAY TO FIND OUT IF ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS THE JURISPRUDENCE TO ALLOW A WELL ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY'S DRAINAGE TO BE OVER BURDENED OR IS THIS A SITUATION IF YOU CAN STOP THE BUILDERS BEFORE THE BUILDING STARTS, THE SITUATION CAN BE RECTIFIED. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM. SO MELISSA LUNDQUIST, 2046 CARTER ROAD. I WANT TO GO ON RECORD.

AS I DID AT PZA. I WANT TO SHOW MY PROPERTY I DO OWN CARTER ROAD THAT PORLGZ OF IT AS WELL AS THE OTHERS ALONGSIDE THE 2800 FEET MENTIONED.

THIS IS A COPY OF MY DEED. AS YOU CAN SEE, EXHIBIT A TOGETHER WITH A NONEXCLUSIVE EASEMENT FOR INGRESS AND

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EASEMENT REPORTED IN OFFICIAL RECORDS, THAT IS THIS EASEMENT AGREEMENT. THAT READS, THAT WE DO HEREBY GRANT THE HEIRS AND LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES AND ASSIGNS FOREVER A NONEXCLUSIVE EASEMENT. SPECIFICALLY SPELLS OUT WHO CAN TRAVEL THAT 2800 FEET. MR. REPASS I HAD SHOWN THE MOST RECENT ONE IN 1994, THIS IS THE '85 ONE.

WHEN I PURCHASED MY PROPERTY IN 1994, OUR TITLE COMPANIES THE PROPERTIES ALONG THE EAST AND WEST SIDE ALONG THE 2800 CARTER ROAD HAVE CHANGED. SO WE NEED AN UPDATED EASEMENT AGREEMENT. YOU WILL SEE IT READS THE SAME HAS TO WHO WE ASSIGN TO AND I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT I AM NOT ALLOWING ANYONE OTHER THAN THE PROPERTIES THAT RUN ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THAT 2800 FEET OF CARTER ROAD TO ACCESS MY PROPERTY. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS THE WARRANTY DEED OF KG ISLAND DEVELOPMENT.

THEY HAVE PARCEL ONE AND TWO. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF CARTER ROAD. THIS PORTION WHICH IT YOU'RE HERE LIKE A VISUAL PERSON. THIS IS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS WEBSITE, IT'S TALKING AND REFERENCING THIS PIECE RIGHT THERE. THAT IS NOW BELONGS TO MR. JAMES E DIMS DALE WHO PASSED AWAY IN 2011.

CHECK WITH YOUR REAL ESTATE LAND DEVELOPMENT WHO OWNS THIS AND OR LEGAL. THIS EASEMENT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS WHERE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE GATE. THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF THE MEETINGS AND TODAY'S BCC MEETING. IT SEEMS AN AREA APPLYING FOR AN APPLICATION ALTHOUGH NOT CONT CONTIGUOUS. IT'S STILL A PART OF THE PROCESS. I ASK YOU AS A POLICY MAKERS OF THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER MAKING SUCH A DIRECTIVE WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS I THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE

COUNTY AND THE >> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. TO PAY AN ATTENTION TO THE MAJOR

PROBLEMS. >> NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE SIR.

>> I'M SORRY. >> YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

>> I'M SORRY. >> I'M PIERRE ANJOLAC.

223, DEER FIELD GLEN >> THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF MY CONCERN HAVE BEEN ALREADY ADDRESSED BY MY BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORS. THE TWO THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS, IT IS DRAINAGE CANAL PROBLEM, THE LAST HEAVY RAIN I HAD WATER CLIMBING ON MY BACKYARD. SO, LET'S NOT ADD TO THIS PROBLEM. AS BAD AS IT ALREADY IS.

NUMBER ONE. ALSO TO FIX WATSON ROAD, IS A MUST. IT'S ESSENTIAL.

AND PARTICULARLY NOT GIVE ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION PERMIT TO ANYONE BEFORE THIS IS ADDRESSED. AND THE THIRD THAT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WILL NEED ANOTHER EXIT.

AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND BY THE WAY, THE TRAIN IS BLOCKING THE WAY MUCH MORE THAN HAS BEEN MENTIONED.

I MEAN I'M TALKING DAILY AND I'M A RETIRED GUY.

MANY TIMES I HAVE GONE THIS WAY AND IT'S BLOCKED BY THE TRAIN.

WE WILL NEED ANOTHER EXIT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND LIKE THE GENTLEMEN MENTIONED, IF WE HAD HEART ATTACK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WOULD BE IN BAD SHAPE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

SIR. HI.

MY NAME IS AIDE DRAN VILLA. I LIVE AT 220 DEER FIELD MEADOWS CIRCLE IN SAINT AUGUSTIN. THE PICTURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT,

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LOT 49. I WOULD BE A MAJORLY IMPACTED NEIGHBOR WITH THE PUD. I AM HERE AS A MOTHER OF FOUR CHILDREN LIVING IN DEER FIELD MEADOWS.

I AM HERE IN ADAMANT OPPOSITION OF THE PUD.

BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN LITIGATION OF THE DEVELOPER IN WASH OUT AND CONSERVATION EASEMENT ISSUES.

THE ATTORNEY ON FILE IS GONZALEZ AT 4655 SALIS BURY IN JACKSONVILLE. AND THE ST. JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT IS 995374. SO THE MAP HERE ALSO SHOWS THE TWO X'S THAT ARE THE WASH OUTS. SITTING IN ONE OF MY KID'S FRIENDS BACKYARDS, THIS IS THE WASH OUT TO THE POND.

THIS IS NEXT TO THE POND AS WE WALK WITH THE LANDSCAPERS AND IT IS CURRENTLY THE RAINY SEASON SO THIS IS QUICKLY ERODING.

AND THEN THIS SHOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER HOW FAR IT TRACES BACK ALL THE WAY TO HER PROPERTY LINE AND TO WHERE THE ST. JOHNS RIVER STORM DRAIN IS. AND IT'S A SERIOUS CONCERN THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN LITIGATION FOR.

EXCUSE ME, IF I DON'T BELIEVE WHAT DUNN AND ASSOCIATES HAS WITH THEIR WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

I BELIEVE THEY ALSO DESIGNED DEER FIELD MEADOWS AND IS A VERY FLAWED SYSTEM. IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE AND OUR KIDS DECIDED TO GO FOR A STROLL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY CAN OFTEN BE FOUND RUNNING AROUND LIKE PING PONG BALLS WITH EACH OTHER.

SOMETIMES 20 OF THEM. IT'S A QUIET DEAD END NEIGHBORHOOD. IN RESPONSE TO DR PASSES, SORRY, I DON'T CARE FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING.

THERE IS NO INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT WAS NOT A PHASED DEVELOPMENT WHETHER WE PURCHASED.

IN THEIR OWN DRAWING THEY STATE HERE THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS ROAD IS WHAT THE SECOND PHASE OF DEER FIELD MEADOWS WAS AND THAT'S THE PART THAT WAS DONE BY RICHMOND HOMES AND IT WAS ONE LOT, 1-17 WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE THE LOT NO LONGER LAND LOCKED. THEY HAVE NO CONCERN THAT WE ARE CONCERNED THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT OF DEER FIELD MEADOWS AND POSES A BIG SAFETY CONCERN FOR OUR CHILDREN.

>> THANK YOU. PLEASE TURN WHAT YOU PUT ON THE

HEAD TO STAFF. >> I AM KARLENE.

I LIVE IN DEER FIELD TRACE. I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AS MY NEIGHBORS. I RECENTLY SAY FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DATA THAT TALKED ABOUT THE YEARS 2011 AND 2022, THERE HAVE BEEN 73 CRASHES, 83 INJURIES AND FOUR DEATHS. THIS WAS SOMETHING LIKE A BAD CRASH EVERY SIX AND A HALF WEEKS.

THAT'S WITHOUT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CORNER.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT BEHIND US. IF YOU DRIVE DOWN WATSON, YOU SEE NARROW SHOULDERS AND THE KID HAS SIX TO EIGHT INCHES TO STEP ON THE GROUND INTO THE DITCHES. THAT STANDING WATER WOULD MAKE IT REALLY HARD TO GET OFF A CURB TO LET THE EMERGENCY CREW COME THROUGH IF THERE'S EIGHT OR 10 OF US THERE.

IF THE GARBAGE TRUCK GOES THROUGH, IT'S VERY NARROW.

I RECENTLY SHOWED A -- THEIR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES BACKED UP ON THE ROAD ALMOST WENT INTO THE DITCH AND THAT STOPPED TRAFFIC FOR A WHILE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I ALSO LIVE ON THE DITCH NEAR RICK BARTELS.

I HAD A SNAKE OR FIVE IN MY BACKYARD.

MY FENCE IS LEANING. IT'S JUST A TERRIBLE SITUATION BACK THERE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US VOICE

OUR CONCERNS. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I DIDN'T SEE WHO WAS NEXT.

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>> I AM SUSAN LADAROCK. I AM ON THE LAKE.

WE BOUGHT OUR LAND IN 2014 BECAUSE THEY ARE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED LOTS AND MOVED IN 2018. I HAVE BEEN THERE ALMOST FOUR YEARS NOW. I HAVE USED ONE OF THE DESIGNS FROM THE BUILDER THAT'S PROPOSED SINCE I WAS HERE LAST MONTH.

I WAS ABLE TO ACCESS THIS. I ADDED IN WHERE THE DRAINAGE DITCHES GO. I DID NOT SEE IT HERE TODAY.

YOU HAVE DEER FIELD FOREST, MEADOWS AND ABOVE THERE IS DEER FIELD TRACE. AND THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE THE DRAINAGE DITCH RUN ALONG THE BACK OF DEER FIELD MEADOWS BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDING UNITS. TURN LEFT TOWARDS THE WEST ON DEER FIELD TRACE AND THEN JOIN IN RIGHT AT THIS CORNER.

THEIR COMMENT WAS THEY WEREN'T SURE WHERE IT WAS GOING TO GO.

YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY ATTACHED TO DEER FIELD TRACE'S DRAINAGE DITCH THAT GOES UP TO THE NORTH. AND THERE'S A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT STARTS TO THE NORTHERN SIDE OF DEER FIELD TRACE AND CONTINUES ALL THE WAY UP AND THEY ALL MERGE AT THIS ONE POINT AND HEAD OUT TO THE NORTH TO GO OUT TO THE I GUESS THE RIVERS THERE. THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S A CULVERT A QUARTER MILE TO THE NORTH WE HAVE BEEN TOLD HAS BEEN DAMMED BECAUSE THE OWNER OWNS THE PROPERTY.

SO OUR DRAINAGE DITCHES ARE CONSTANTLY FULL.

THIS IS WATSON ROAD JUST AS WE COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY DOING A PICTURE STRAIGHT DOWN OF OUR DRAINAGE DITCH.

OUR FENCES SEEM TO BE MILDEWED AND MOSSY.

THEY COME IN THERE EVERY YEAR. MAKE THE DITCH DEEPER AND TELL US THAT'S GOING TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.

IT DOES NOT BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE DITCH DOES NOT EMPTY ANYWHERE.

IT SITS IN THE TOP NORTHWEST CORNER AND MERGES THERE AND WE FLOOD BACK UP. TO ADD MORE WATER TO OUR COMMUNITY COMING FROM THE NEW COMMUNITY WILL MAKE IT JUST 10 TIMES WORSE THAN WE ALREADY HAVE.

I ALSO GOT A PICTURE FROM FRIDAY OF THE ONE OF THE TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING IN. THEY HAD STATED EARLIER THAT IT ONLY COMES ONCE A OR TWICE A MONTH.

THAT WAS LAST MONDAY. WELL THIS WAS FRIDAY.

SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE COMING IN THERE MORE THAN TWICE A MONTH.

THIS IS ONE OF PRODUCE TRAILERS AND I ADDED THAT PICTURE IN FOR YOUR REFERENCE. MA'AM, I'M SORRY, YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP. SOMEONE CAN CONTINUE YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU LIKE. THAT'S THE THREE

>> >> GOES

>> YES, MA'AM. YES IT DOES.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS DEBBIE MASTERS.

I LIVE AT 321 DEER FIELD GLEN DRIVE.

SOME OF MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO SEEM REDUNDANT SO I APOLOGIZE.

I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN, I THINK EXPLAINED PRETTY WELL.

I WON'T GO INTO THAT. I ALSO HAVE SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THE CONDITION OF WATSON ROAD AND HOW THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GENERATED BY FUTURE CONSTRUCTION AND RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO FURTHER DAMAGE THE ROAD ESPECIALLY WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACK. IT REALLY MAKES NO SENSE TO ME TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ANY DIVISIONS IN THIS AREA WITHOUT MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS ON WATSON ROAD.

IN ORDER TO HANDLE. I I AM ALSO EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT NO EMERGENCY ACCESS CONNECTOR THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME HOW YOU CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIVING BEHIND THE TRACKS HAS IT OCCURRED TO ANYONE THE MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS AREA AND IT WON'T STOP WITH THIS SUBDIVISION.

THEY WILL BE MORE BUILDING WEST OF THE TRACK.

IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT EMERGENCY SITUATIONS MAY ARISE AND BLOCK ACCESS. AND THE RESULTS THAT COULD BE TRAGIC. IF THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO GET

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OUT. FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I ADAMANTLY OPPOSE THE CONSTRUCTION OF DEER

>> THANK YOU. MA'AM.

>> MY NAME IS JIM ASTERS. I LIVE AT 321 DEER FIELD GLEN IN DEER FIELD TRACE. I AM DEFINITELY 100% OPPOSED TO THIS. WHO CAN STAND IN THE WAY WHEN THERE'S A DOLLAR TO BE MADE? THESE BUILDERS ARE HELL BENT ON RAMMING THIS THROUGH. HOW MANY BITES AT THE APPLE ARE THEY GOING TO GET TO KEEP TRYING TO DO THIS? THIS IS LIKE THAT HORROR MOVIE CHUCKY THAT KEEPS COMING BACK TIME AFTER TIME. SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN I DON'T BELIEVE EITHER ANYBODY CAN HIRE THE SO CALLED EXPERTS.

YOU CAN GET SO CALLED EXPERTS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT.

YOU CAN HIRE PEOPLE TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT THEM TO SAY AS LONG AS THEY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO SAY.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE FLOODING.

ALSO THE RAILROAD TRACK. I'M A RUNNER.

I RUN DOWN THAT ROAD AND THAT STUFF FOUR AND A HALF, SIX:30.

ONE MORNING, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO.

I WAS RUNNING AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM ON THE RAILROAD WHERE WE WERE STUCK FOR SEVERAL HOURS. I STOOD HERE FOR 10 MINUTES AND ALL THESE CARDS WERE BACKED UP. I STARTED TALKING TO THE DRIVERS. THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH AT LEAST TWO HOURS. IT WAS CLOSED FROM 6:00 TO 8:00.

IT DOES HAPPEN. ALSO CRESCENT TECHNICAL.

THEY HAVE BEEN ADDING MORE BUSINESSES BACK THERE.

A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES, THE TREE CUTTING PLACE HAVE A LOT OF LARGE VEHICLES AND TRUCKS. WE HAVE THOSE GOING UP AND DOWN AND THEY ADDED MORE. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE BACK THERE ALSO? AT THE INTERSECTION OF U.S. ONE AND WATSON. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TURNING LANES. THEY ARE ADDING 10 UNITS A BUSINESS, 10 STORES THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF U.S. ONE. AND THE SOUTH SIDE, RIGHT IN THE CORNER, THAT INTERSECTION THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A, I THINK A 210 APARTMENT UNIT NOW. SO BOTH SIDES ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE. IS IT GOING TO COME OUT ON U.S.

1 SO THE PEOPLE CAN GET OUT OF THERE OR THE PEOPLE GOING TO THE MALL. I DON'T KNOW.

IF THEY COME OUT U.S. 1, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NIGHTMARE.

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET TO U.S. 1? IT'S RIDICULOUS. SO, I ALSO SORRY TO SAY TWICE.

I HAPPENED TO BE BY WEIRD CHANCE.

I SAW TWO FATALITIES ON THIS INTERSECTION.

ONE ON SUNDAY MORNING. MOTORCYCLE GUY GOT KILLED AT THAT INTERSECTION AND I THINK ONE TIME YOU PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT IT. THE WOMAN WAS MAKING A TURN OFF WATSON ON TO U.S. 1 GOING NORTH. A DRIVER CAME THROUGH, RIGHT THROUGH THE KILLED HER.

>> THANK YOU. >> HI, SHERRY BADGER, 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. I KNOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD BEFORE BY ONE OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS THIS ISN'T MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS LIKE DEJA VU. WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THE DEVELOPER NEXT DOOR FOR OVER 35, 40 YEARS.

OKAY. THIS IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF. AND I ALSO, WE WERE ALSO TOLD AS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IF ANYTHING OCCURRED FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT IT WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE DEVELOPER AND GUESS WHAT? THE COUNTY FOOTED THE BILL. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE STAFF GETTING THEIR INFORMATION TO APPROVE THIS KIND OF STUFF, BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS TELLING Y'ALL ABOUT THIS IS GOING ON. IT'S UP TO YOU.

YOU ARE THE STEWARDS. OKAY WE LIVE HERE.

WE DO NOT DESERVE TO BE FLOODED BY OVER ZEALOUS DEVELOPERS.

AND Y'ALL BE ALLOWING IT EVERY TIME YOU APPROVE THIS.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO FLOOD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD JUST LIKE YOU DID THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 8? PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 8. DEER FIELD FOREST.

>> B.J. KLATY, WEST NEWSOME CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

>> I HAVE TRULY, TRULY ENJOYED THESE 17 SPEAKERS.

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TRULY. THEY HAVE GOT THE GREATEST ATTITUDE. THE PZA STILL HAD QUESTIONS ON MARCH 3RD. IT'S A 4-3 VOTE.

SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE. GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP IS REASON TO DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST.

THIS IS ALMOST LIKE WHAT WE DID HOW MANY HOURS WE SPENT LISTENING TO PEOPLE ABOUT GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND OVER DEVELOPMENT.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO 17 RESIDENTS WHO CARE ENOUGH TO SIT HERE AND GET UP EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T ENJOY SPEAKING PUBLICLY. I DO.

I TRULY DON'T. BUT I WILL.

AND Y'ALL KNOW I WILL. AND ALSO, KNOW THIS.

THEY MAY GET HORSES. THEY WILL DEAL WITH THE HORSES.

POTATOES COME FROM HASTINGS, FLORIDA, NOT WASHINGTON STATE.

LET'S STAY WITH OUR POTATOES HERE IN OUR COUNTY.

BUT REALLY AND TRULY, THIS NEEDS TO BE DENIEDED AND YOU'VE GOTTEN ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMING BEFORE THE PZA, COMING BACK AND COMING BACK. SO LET'S JUST STOP THIS THING HERE AND REMEMBER IT'S OVER DEVELOPMENT CAUSING ALL THESE PROBLEMS. TANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT >> DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS?

>> YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON TRAFFIC THEY WERE RAISED.

SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE INTERSECTION.

FIRST ON THE ACCIDENTS, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME EVIDENCE SUBMITTED REGARDING NUMBERS OF CRASHES THAT I HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IN PREPARATION OF TODAY. IT DOES APPEAR THOSE ARE BASED ON A SUMMARY REPORT FROM THE DOT, WE DID DO A LITTLE BIT OF ANALYSIS AND SOME INTERESTING THINGS TO HAVE ON THE RECORD.

IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE. I SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON THE YEARS OF 2016-2020. BECAUSE THE DOT ACTUALLY DID A SAFETY TODAY IN THE 2015-2016 RANGE.

AND IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR UPGRADING THE SIGNALS AT THIS INTERSECTION WHICH THEY DID SOME TIME AROUND 2016.

SO I FOCUSED ON THAT 2016 TO 2020 BECAUSE IT HAS THE NEW SIGNALS IN OPERATION. IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THIS INTERSECTION HANDLES APRIL 10 MILLION VEHICLES A YEAR.

AND IN THAT FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD, THEY WERE ROUGHLY 40 CRASHES. WHICH WORKS OUT TO ABOUT EIGHT CRASHES A YEAR. CERTAINLY FROM AN ENGINEERING STAND POINT FROM A DOT STANDPOINT, WE WANT TO MINIMIZE CRASHES, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT DRIVING A VEHICLE INVOLVES POTENTIAL HUMAN ERROR. IT INVOLVES RISK.

SO DOT HAS A METHODICAL APPROACH TO IDENTIFYING HIGH-ACCIDENT INTERSECTIONS. AT A RATE OF EIGHT CRASHES PER 10 MILLION VEHICLES A YEAR, THIS INTERSECTION DOES NOT RATE AS A HIGH ACCIDENT LOCATION AS EVALUATED BY THE DOT.

SO I DID WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

THE SECOND PIECE IN HEARING THE INTERSECTION PROCESS IS 10 MILLION VEHICLES A YEAR. AND BASED ON TESTIMONY THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED. YOU MAY THINK THIS INTERSECTION IS OVER CAPACITY TODAY. BUT I WANT TO SHARE THAT IT IS NOT. WE ACTUALLY CONDUCTED TRAFFIC COUNTS IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR SO A FEW MONTHS AGO WE CONDUCTED A.M. PEAK OFFER AND P.M. PEAK OUR AND OPERATES AT LEVEL SERVICE B AS IN BRAVO. SO TODAY THE INTERSECTION IS OPERATING ACCEPTABLY AND DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT AVAILABLE CAPACITY TO HANDLE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

CERTAINLY I'M SURE STAFF CAN SHARE, THAT ANY OTHER PROJECTS IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CONCURRENCY REVIEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE IT'S

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OPERATING ACCEPTABLY AND I WANTED TO SHARE, I KNOW ONE SPEAKER DID MENTION IS THE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED TO U.S. 1 WHILE THERE STILL WILL BE A SKEW.

SO, THE THROUGH LANES DO NOT LINE UP PERFECTLY AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO LEAD YOU ASTRAY THEY WILL.

THE NEW 12 LANE SHIFT WILL DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE THE OPERATION OF THE INTERSECTION AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

JUST A COUPLE QUICK POINTS. THERE'S TALK OF THE WETLANDS ON THE SITE. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE SITE SIZE IS 37.31 ACRES.

THE TOTAL OF 8.75 ACRES OF WETLANDS.

WE'RE GOING ON IMPACT 2.5 ACRES OF WETLANDS.

THE NET DEVELOPMENT AREA IS 31.09 ACRES.

WITH REGARD TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ACCESS EXPIRING, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ACCESS AGREEMENT GOES ONE YEAR FROM CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL.

SO, IF THE PUD IS APPROVED, WE FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, ONCE THAT IS APPROVED, THEN WE HAVE ONE YEAR FROM APPROVAL TO USE IT AND WE CAN GET AN EXTENSION BUT, THE ONE YEAR FROM THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL IS PLENTY SUFFICIENT TIME TO FOR USE FOR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES. YOU HEARD A LOT WHICH IS NOT UNEXPECTED ABOUT DRAINAGE. WE HAVE HEARD PROBLEMS WITH DEER FIELD TRACE'S SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH WITH THEIR DRAINAGE DITCH.

WHICH DOES NOT GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF WASH OUTS.

STORMWATER PONDS FOR DEER FIELD MEADOWS.

THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT.

THOSE ARE MAINTENANCE ITEMS THOSE COMMUNITIES YOU KNOW NEED TO ADDRESS BUT YOU HAVE HEARD GENERALIZED STATEMENTS ABOUT DRAINAGE OF SPECULATION THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE FOR THEM. AND THE DRAINAGE IS A VERY TECHNICAL ISSUE. AND THAT'S WHY DETAILED PLANS ARE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. THAT'S WHY DETAILED PLANS ARE APPROVED BY THE ST. JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE MR. TAYLOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS TO MAKE THESE DESIGNS WORK. YOU HAVE HEARD FROM HIS EXPERT OPINION THAT THE DISCHARGE FROM THIS PROJECT FROM THIS PROPERTY WILL BE LESS NOW AFTER THE PUD IS APPROVED AND BILLED.

THE DISCHARGE WILL BE LESS WATER DISCHARGED FROM THE PROPERTY THAN IT WAS BEFORE. SO, IT WILL MAKE IT BETTER.

IT WILL COMPLY WITH COUNTY AND STATE REQUIREMENTS.

I URGE YOU TO WEIGH THAT EVIDENCE WHERE YOU ACCEPT MR. TAYLOR'S CONCLUSION EXPERT OPINION ON THAT ISSUE.

THE FUTURE CONNECTIVITY OF DEER FIELD MEADOWS TO DEER FIELD FOREST PARCEL. THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT THERE WAS A SEPARATE DRAWING DONE IN 2004 WHICH THAT IS PROBABLY TRUE, BUT, DEER FIELD MEADOWS TO THE EAST ADJACENT TO THE EAST WAS A COMMON THEME OF DEVELOPMENT WITH OUR PROPERTY OF DEERFIELD FOREST. YOU HAVE SEEN THE ROADWAYS.

IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE. AND THE SIDEWALK, THE ROADWAY, DEAD END INTO OUR PROPERTY FOR FUTURE USE

>> EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT THAT BOUGHT IN DEERFIELD MEADOWS TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THEIR PROPERTY HAVING THAT CONDITION IN THERE.

THAT IS A FACT RECORDED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND THE DOCUMENT WAS ACTUALLY RECORDED.

BEFORE ANYBODY MOVED IN, BEFORE ANYBODY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE, THEY SAW THE SIDEWALK AND ROAD DEAD END INTO OUR PROPERTY FOR FUTURE ACCESS. AND I BROUGHT UP THE OR SUBDIVISION AND THE FACT WE'RE CURRENTLY OR.

I APOLOGIZE IT CAME ACROSS AS A THREAT TO ANYBODY.

IT WAS NOT A THREAT. IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY OR. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REZONE IT TO PUD TO BE CONSISTENT WITH DEER FIELD TRACE AND DEER FIELD MEADOWS. IT WILL HAVE SIMILAR DEED RESTRICTIONS. WILL HAVE SIMILAR HOUSES.

IF WE ARE STUCK WITH OR, THEN WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DEVELOP AN

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OR SUBDIVISION MUCH DIFFERENT AND MUCH LESS COMPATIBLE WITH DEER FIELD MEADOWS. IT JUST IS.

IT'S NOT A THREAT. IT'S JUST THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER. AGAIN WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THIS THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FOUR YEARS AGO WAS DIFFERENT.

AND IT WASN'T. NOBODY THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROCESS TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.

WE HAVE GONE OVER AND ABOVE TO ADDRESS THE INTERCHANGE.

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT REQUIRED, WE OBTAINED AN ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS EASEMENT AND ALTHOUGH MANY PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE IT, WE OBTAINED THE ALTERNATE ACCESS FOR EVACUATION PURPOSES TO ADJOIN CARTER ROAD. WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT.

MOST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY DON'T EITHER BUT IF THE COUNTY AS A STAFF AND ORGANIZATION DETERMINE THEY DO WANT TO OPEN UP CARTER ROAD ONE DAY, WE HAVE AT LEAST OBTAINED THE RIGHT TO GET TO CARTER ROAD FROM WATSON ROAD. BUT AGAIN, WE JUST SOON DO AWAY WITH THAT. WE HAVE AGAIN TRIED TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE THERE BEFORE AND WE HAVE DONE IT AND ASK YOU APPROVE. THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS? >> LET ME ASK, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A QUESTION QUICK. I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE DRAINAGE ISSUE. MAYBE MR. TAYLOR CAN ADDRESS THIS. SEVERAL SPEAKERS HAVE POINTED OUT AND CALLED TO OUR ATTENTION THE POSSIBILITY OR THE FACT WHATEVER IT IS, ONCE THE STORMWATER LEAVES SITE, AND CLOSE THE DITCH BEFORE IT GETS TO THE RECEIVING WATER BODY, APPARENTLY THE DITCH HAS BEEN DAMMED.

I DON'T THINK WE REALLY LOOKED AT THAT CLOSELY.

>> I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IN ANY CORRESPONDENCE PRESENTED TO ME.

IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY. IT AFFECTS THE COUNTY.

THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE AND TO LOOK AT THE FLOW PATH. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT ISSUE.

LOOK AT IT ALL THE WAY UNTIL MALTRY CREEK.

IF THERE ARE BLOCKAGES THAT SOMEBODY BLOCKED UP ILLEGALLY.

THOSE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN A COURT OF LAW.

THIS IS A NUISANCE TO THE PEOPLE.

I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE PICTURES I LOOKED AT GOOGLE STREET VIEW. I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE MYSELF.

I LOOKED AT THAT DITCH AND THAT DITCH WAS DRY ON WATSON AND STREET VIEW. THAT DITCH IS BASICALLY ON

COUNTY ROAD. >> NO , IT WAS.

>> I HAVE TO ASK EVERYBODY TO REFRAIN FROM ANY OUT

>> LET'S HAVE A CIVIL DISCUSSION.

>> DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE STAFF THAT'S HERE THAT COULD ADDRESS THAT? HAS LOOKED AT THE OFFSITE DRAINAGE? IT MAY HELP EXPLAIN WHY THERE WAS FLOODING OR THEIR POND OVER FLOWS.

I JUST WANT TO REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO HERE, I WANT STAFF TO LOOK AT THIS DRAINAGE SYSTEM. IF THERE'S A BLOCKAGE AND GET AWAY CANAL. DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG THE RECEIVING WATER IS. IF THE WATER CAN'T GET THERE,

CAUSES A PROBLEM. >> IT'S A LARGE WATER BODY FOR STAGING. IT NEEDS TO DRAIN.

>> DRAINAGE IS MY BIGGEST ISSUE. THE IDEA OF THE BLOCKAGE SORT OF

PIQUED MY INTEREST. >> PAUL,

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE THING ON THE DITCH, I HAD THE STAFF LOOK AT IT PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO BEFORE COVID.

ONE ISSUE WAS WE DID NOT OWN ONE OF CULVERTS.

THEY ARE IN A PICTURE THERE. THEY WERE NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE CAPACITY AND THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE THEM CHANGE THE CULVERTS OR WE WEREN'T WILLING TO CHANGE THEM OURSELVES.

>> I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WHERE TO START? I GUESS YOU COVERED THE DITCH. THE REMOTE ACCESS OFF THE ROAD WOULD BE THE EASEMENT. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS

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AREA. HAVING HUNTED THERE AS A KID MY ENTIRE LIFE. DID YOU GET THE OVER HEADS?

GO AHEAD. >> YES.

THEY SHOULD BE, I SENT THEM OVER TO HAVE THEM DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS JAN BREWER WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. YEAH, IF WE COULD GET THOSE UP.

OKAY. THESE ARE AERIALS THAT I CREATED. THESE ARE A SERIES OF AERIALS THROUGH A POINT IN TIME. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A 1995 AERIAL. IT SHOWS THAT A PORTION OF THE SITE IS CLEAR. THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS A WETLANDS SYSTEM. AND THIS IS DEERFIELD FOREST.

HERE'S A 2009 AERIAL. YOU WILL SEE THAT THE AREA HERE IS UNDER GOING REPLANTED AND HAS 14 YEARS OF GROWTH.

AGAIN THIS IS A 2009 AERIAL. THIS IS A WETLAND AREA THAT HAS NOT BEEN CLEARED. YOU CAN SEE A DITCH HERE.

AND THEN THERE IS ONE THAT GOES UP THROUGH HERE.

>> JUST TO STOP YOU RIGHT THERE. SO THE DITCH IS SOUTH OF THE

PROPERTY. >> CORRECT AND THERE'S ONE AT

THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY. >> THIS AGAIN HERE'S A 2010.

YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SEE THE YEARS OF GROWTH.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS NOW AN EAST/WEST TRAIL ROAD.

THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED. AGAIN HERE'S THE WETLANDS STILL REMAINING. 2016, THEY DID HARVEST THE PINE PLANTATION HERE. THEY USED THIS ROAD HERE TO COME DOWN, HARVEST, YOU CAN STILL SEE REMNANTS OF THAT FOREST ROAD THERE. BUT WHAT YOU DO SEE IS AREAS WHERE IT IS HOLDING WATER. HERE YOU CAN SORT OF SEE THE DITCH CLEAN UP. ALONG THIS PROPERTY AGAIN THE WETLAND. HERE WE HAVE 2019.

YOU SEE THAT THIS AREA IS, THIS EAST/WEST ROAD IS HOLDING WATER.

THIS ROAD IS BECOMING A LITTLE BIT LESS STABLE.

HERE'S THE WETLAND NOT CLEARED AND THIS IS DEERFIELD FOREST.

AND THEN THIS IS THE CURRENT AERIAL 2021.

YOU SEE THEY REPAIRED THE STABILIZED ROAD BED.

YOU CAN STILL SEE THIS AREA AS HOLDING WATER.

THIS IS A WETLAND AREA THAT HASN'T BEEN CLEARED.

IN ORDER TO USE THIS ROAD TO ACCESS TO GET TO DEERFIELD FOREST, YOU WILL NEED TO CROSS THIS WETLAND THERE.

AND THIS DITCH DOWN HERE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

HERE'S I DID A -- THE IMAGERY, THE WETLAND IMAGERY OVER LAID ON

THE 2021 AERIAL. >> THANK YOU.

AND MY CONCERN WITH THAT, YOU HAD TO GO ACROSS THE WETLAND.

NOBODY SAID WHETHER OR NOT YOU GET PERMISSION ACROSS THE WETLAND OR WHAT PERMITTING WOULD BE NEEDED.

THE OTHER CONCERN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ONE YEAR BUILD CYCLE.

YOU CAN PROBABLY CLEAR THE LAND AND GET IT READY.

THAT WAS NOT CONSIDER THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS.

AND DIRT NEEDED AFTER THE ONE YEAR.

THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE. YOU WILL HAVE ALL THAT COMING.

THEY NEED A LOAD OF DIRT, THEY HAVE TO COME DOWN THROUGH THE OTHER SUBDIVISION TO GET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONCE YOU CLOSE THAT ENTRANCE WITHIN A YEAR, THAT'S THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ON THAT. MR. REPASS, IF YOU WOULD COME UP. I HAVE ISSUE WITH YOUR WAIVER ON THE ROAD. YOU QUOTED SECONDRY ACCESS NOT IN LDC CODE YET YOU ASKED FOR WAIVERS ON THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS. THE CONCERN OF THE ROAD IS, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE ROAD FOR THE EXTRA TRAFFIC? I KNOW YOU ASKED FOR THAT WAIVER.

THERE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH STAFF TO SEE IF THERE'S AN UPGRADED NEEDED. SO, YEAH.

THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION I HAD THERE ON THAT.

WHETHER Y'ALL LOOKED AT THE ROAD AND WHAT UPGRADES MAY BE NEEDED?

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OKAY. SO THAT WAIVER ON THE, IT'S IN THERE ON THE ROAD IS FOR DEERFIELD FOREST DRIVE RIGHT THERE. WHEN THIS 63 LOTS BARELY TRIP THE REQUIREMENT FOR MINOR COLLECTIVE, SO, FOR DEER FIELD FOREST DRIVE, IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE EXCEPT FOR HERE.

IF IT WAS INTERCONNECTED WITH ALL OTHER PROPERTIES AT SOME POINT DURING THE FUTURE, THERE WOULD BE SOME NEED BUT, NOW I CAN SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THE ROAD.

WE REALLY FELT LIKE IN TALKING WITH PEOPLE TOO, THIS WAS NO NEED TO DO ANY CONSTRUCTION ON DEER FIELD FOREST DRIVE.

WE BARELY TRIPPED THE REQUIREMENT.

THAT WAS JUST A WAIVER TO, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN DO 200 FEET OF ROAD WORK BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

WE ALSO, AS FAR AS CROSSING THE WETLAND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS, WE ANALYZED THAT. WE WILL HAVE TO PAY.

FOR TEMPORARY IMPACTS FOR THAT. WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

WE HAVE TO PERMIT IT. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ON THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS.

I HAVE SEEN A COUPLE DIFFERENT NUMBERS BETWEEN HAVE Y'ALL HAD A

STUDY OF THE WETLANDS? >> WE HAVE.

OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THAT IF YOU

WOULD LIKE HIM TO COME UP. >> YES, SIR, I JUST -- YOU HAD APPROXIMATELY 8.75 COUNT I TAX COLLECTOR HAD 10.53.

>> YEAH, RYAN CARTER, 42 MASTERS DRIVE.

CARTER ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. I'M A PROFESSIONAL WETLANDS SCIENTIST. YEAH WE HAVE 8.87 TOTAL ACREOS THE SITE. 2.53 ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S GEOGRAPHICALLY AND HYDROLOGICALLY IMPACTED. ONE TO THE SOUTHWEST IS ABOUT 2.82. THOSE AREAS WILL BE PRESERVED.

SO, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 6.32 ON THE WESTERN SIDE THAT WILL BE PRESERVED AND YES THE WETLANDS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND SURVEYED. THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S IT MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> MR. I WAS GOING TO SEE IF

MR. REPASS AND COME BACK. >> IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THE

OTHER TWO WAIVERS. >> THE OTHER TWO WAIVERS, ONE IS SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF ME. IT DEALS WITH CORNER LOTS.

YOU HAVE FRONT YARD SETBACK 20 FEET.

SO YOU WOULD REDUCE BY 50% SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH TWO FRONT YARD SETBACKS. THE OTHER IS ON THE FRONT YARD INSTEAD OF HAVING, YOU HAVE THE GARAGE AT 20 FEET AND THEN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AT 15 FEET. THAT'S THE MOST DESIRABLE DESIGN STANDARD WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. DEERFIELD MEADOWS HAS THE EXACT SAME CRITERIA. 15 FEET TO THE HOUSE.

20 FEET TO THE GARAGE AND THE SAME WAIVER ON THE CORNER LOTS.

>> YES, SIR. >> I JUST --

>> I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING. ANOTHER ISSUE I HAVE TOO.

IS REALLY NOTHING CHANGED FOR ME FROM WHAT YOU AND I ORIGINALLY HEARD. I DON'T THINK YOU WERE ON THE BOARD. ANOTHER ISSUE IS THE COUNTY WE ARE CHARGING FOR GARBAGE PICK UP.

IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNT I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING THE CALLS. I'M GETTING THE CALLS AND E-MAILS. THAT'S A SERVICE WE'RE CHARGING FOR. JUST SINCE JANUARY 1ST, OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD APPROXIMATELY 8892 CALLS.

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FOR EITHER DIFFERENT THINGS BETWEEN GARBAGE YARD DEBRIS, RECYCLABLE INFORMATION PURPOSES. THAT'S A BURDEN TOO.

WE KEEP INCREASING NUMBERS AND I DON'T SEE AN ANSWER COMING FOR THAT ISSUE TOO. THAT'S ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IN MIND. THAT'S IT.

>> I THINK THAT COMPLETES ANY COMMENTS FROM EVERYONE.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.

MAKE AND SUGGESTIONS. CHRISTINE SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. I WOULD MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED TO APPROVE THIS TO CLEAN UP THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSED WITH THE PUD REZONING. FIRST REGARDING THE SECONDARY ACCESS. I WOULD RECOMMEND DELETING ALL LANGUAGE REGARDING THAT PROPOSAL.

SECOND, THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDE AS REFERENCED THE EXHIBITS FOR THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND THE WIDENING TO WATSON ROAD. THOSE EXHIBITS WERE HANDED OUT TO YOU TODAY IN THE PACKET FROM THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY.

THEY WERE PREPARED BY KINLEY HORN.

I RECOMMEND THOSE BE INCLUDED AND THEN THE ALTERNATE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS WAS OFFERED AFTER THE PZA MEETING.

THAT'S NOT MENTIONED AT ALL IN THE PROPOSED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE INCLUDED WITH THE MDP ALONG WITH THE STATEMENT THAT CONSTRUCTION ACCESS THROUGH DEERFIELD BE

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

WAS THERE ANY OUTSTANDING COMMENTS NOT ANSWERED BY LEGAL?

>> THERE'S AN OUTSTANDING COMMENT REGARDING THE SECONDARY ACCESS EASEMENT AND THAT'S NOT RESOLVED BUT PRETTY MUCH

REMOVED. >> YES.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

>> I STILL YOU KNOW FOR DRAINAGE REASONS SAFETY REASONS, ALL THE REASONS WE HAD BEFORE AND WERE MENTIONED TODAY, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY PUD 2020-05. DEERFIELD FOREST.

A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 37 ACRES OF LAND OPEN RULE TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT OF MAXIMUM 63 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BASED ON 10 FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED THE

>> >> SECOND.

? >> I WILL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. WALDRON AND

[9. Public Hearing * PUD 2021-23 Orchard Park II PUD. Request to rezone approximately 23.71 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) and Planned Unit Development (PUD) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for a maximum 129 residential townhome dwelling units. The Planning and Zoning Agency voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the project.]

>> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL START AGAIN WITH OUR APRIL 5TH COMMISSION MEETING. WE ARE ON ITEM NINE IF I AM FOLLOWING THE CHART. ORCHARD PARK, PUD.

>> THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. SO I MET ON MONDAY YESTERDAY THE FOURTH AT APPROXIMATELY 9:30 P.M., DOUG BURNETT AND PAUL MICHAEL REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

WE SPOKE ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO TRAFFIC IN THE GENERAL AREA. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS I DON'T HAVE THE DATE. DOUG BURNETT STOPPED BY AND SAW ME. WE DID DISCUSS THIS ISSUE A LITTLE BIT. BASICALLY WHERE THE ACCESS POINTS WOULD BE, NUMBER OF UNITS WHERE IT WAS LOCATED.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> I DID TALK TO HIM ON THE PHONE -- ON MARCH 27TH. WE DID NOT DISCUSS THE PROJECT

AT ALL. >> OKAY.

I AM ON MARCH 31ST AT 2:00 P.M. I MET WITH MR. DOUG BURNETT AND

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THE APPLICANT AND WENT THROUGH THE PROJECT AND ASKED IF I HAD

CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT. >> ON MARCH 28TH AT APPROXIMATELY 9:30. I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT, MICHAEL AND STAFF. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE LOCATION AND THIS IS THE SECOND PART A PROJECT.

SPOKE ABOUT INTERCONNECTIVITY AND.

ON MONDAY, MARCH 28TH AT APPROXIMATELY 10:00 A.M.

I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND PAUL MICHAEL REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE PROJECT.

TRAFFIC IMPACTS THE INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS AND FOLLOWED UP WITH A PHONE CALL BRIEFLY

YESTERDAY. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE READY TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

>> THE MICROPHONE WASN'T ON. NOW IT IS.

>> AND WITH ME TODAY IS PAUL MICHAEL AS YOU ALL KNOW, BUT FOR THE RECORD, SO IT'S CLEAR HE'S HERE AS WELL.

WE'LL TAKE ONE QUICK SEGWAY IF I MIGHT AND ALSO SAY THAT MR. WALDRON, YOUR FATHER IS GOING TO BE MISSED AS A YOUNG LAWYER THAT FIRST GOT OUT OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WENT TO PRIVATE PRACTICE DURING LAND USE, I GOT TO WORK WITH YOUR FATHER ON TWO PROJECTS. IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WONDERFUL

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYWAYS.

WITH THAT, IF I CAN GET MY, PERFECT.

WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR ORCHARD PARK TWO.

WE CALL IT ORCHARD PARK TWO, BECAUSE KB HAS ORCHARD PARK ONE GOING FULLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT. MANY UNITS SOLD.

IT'S A TOWN HOME COMMUNITY AND THIS WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR, SIMILAR TYPE PROJECT TO ORIENT YOU FROM A LOCATION MAP STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE IT'S MIDWAY BETWEEN STATE ROAD 312 AND I-95 ON STATE ROAD 207 BETWEEN 312 ON I-95 ON STATE ROAD 207. THE NEAR OF THE BIG LANDMARK NEARBY IS TREATY PARK. THE 44, 45-ACRE PART HERE IN THE COUNTY IS ONE OF THE MOST DEVELOPED HIGHLY AMENT TIEZED PARK. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE INTERSECTION OF WILD WOOD JUST A LITTLE CLOSER AERIAL OF WILD WOOD 207 AREA. AND THEN THE RED SHAPE HERE IS WHERE THE NEW PUBLIX IS BEING BUILT.

THE NEW SHOPPING CENTER. THEN OF COURSE THIS IS WILD WOOD DRIVE, WHICH OUR PROJECT DIRECTLY FRONTS AND BRINGER OFF ROAD WHICH IS NOW BEEN BUILT TO CONNECT FROM WILD WOOD DRIVE TO 207 WHICH REMOVES A FAIR AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FROM THAT PORTION OF WILD WOOD THAT WE CONNECT TO. ANYBODY ON WILD WOOD DRIVE IS GOING TO TAKE BRINK OFF ROAD, IT'S MUCH MORE CONVENIENT AND FASTER. JUST A BLOWUP OF THE INTERSECTION HOW IT'S BEEN BUILT OUT.

OUR PROPERTY IS 13 UNITS IN ACRE IN MIXED USE.

SIX UNITS AN ACRE IN RES C AND 13 ACRE AREA.

FOR OUR PURPOSES OF THIS PUD, WE HAVE TAKEN THE SIX UNIT PER ACRE MEASURE IN RES C. FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, THERE'S AN EXISTING PUD ON THE PROPERTY AND TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK ON THAT. THE PUBLIX SITE I SHOWED YOU EARLIER WHICH IS IN THE EXISTING PUD, AND THEN THE BALANCE OF THE EXISTING PUD, THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON.

I COULDN'T QUITE GET THE TRIANGLE TO GO OFF BECAUSE IT'S THE EXISTING PUD NOT THE PROJECT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING.

TO MAKE IT FIT ON THE MDP MAP, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOT A MATCH LINE TO IT. IF WE FLIP THAT OVER AND CONNECT IT, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PROJECT LOOKS LIKE.

IT LAYS OUT VERY MUCH LIKE ORCHARD PARK ONE TO THE SOUTH WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU. IT'S A TOWN HOME PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, WITH A PARK RECREATION FACILITY TO THE SOUTH.

129 UNITS IN TOTAL. THERE'S ROUGHLY NINE ACRES OF OPEN SPACE HERE. THREE ACRES OF PRESERVED WETLANDS. WE DID PRIOR TO PZA, SO PZA, THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT PZA DIDN'T SEE.

IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO PZA, WE DID REVISE THE PROJECT.

THAT REALLY GOES BACK TO HOW KB OPERATES.

KB HOME OPERATES. THEY WENT AND MET WITH THE

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RESIDENTS IN ORCHARD PARK ONE. SHOWED THEM WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING AND THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T LIKE THE INTERCONNECTIVITY ASPECT OF THE PROJECT GOING TO THE SOUTH WHERE ORCHARD PARK ONE COULD DIRECTLY CONNECT WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS TO ORCHARD PARK TWO. ONE OF MAIN CONCERN THAT IS YOU WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE FROM THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROADWAY OF BRINKOFF AND WILD WOOD, THERE'S A POTENTIAL, BUT SLIGHT, A POTENTIAL FOR THAT TO BECOME A CUT THROUGH BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS AS SHOWN HERE IN THE ORANGE.

AND SO WHAT WAS REVISED RIGHT BEFORE PZA WAS TO ELIMINATE THAT ACCESS TO THE SOUTH AND DIRECTLY CONNECT ONLY TO WILD WOOD FOR THIS PROJECT. SKIPPING AND LOOKING AT THE OVERALL TWO PROJECTS TOGETHER, THIS AERIAL GIVES YOU A GREAT IDEA. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ORCHARD PARK ONE TO THE SOUTH. YOU CAN SEE ORCHARD PARK TWO BEFORE YOU TODAY TO THE NORTH. THIS AREA HERE IN THE, I GUESS LIME GREEN ON THE AERIAL IF WE PULL IT OUT NOW, YOU CAN GET A CLOSER LOOK AT ORCHARD PARK TWO. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE SOUTH ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ELIMINATED THAT ACCESS DIRECTLY FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS, IT DID PRESERVE INTE~- CONNECTIVITY, KIDS OR RESIDENTS CAN WALK UP TO THE SOUTH AND PUTS THE PARK FACILITIES IN BETWEEN THE TWO, TO THE SOUTH THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING FOR PARK FACILITIES OTHERWISE NEARBY TREATY PARK. MAKES IT NICE TO HAVE PARK FACILITIES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS.

ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT HERE IN MY PRESENTATION AS WELL AND WANT TO FOCUS YOU ON THIS AREA, THE EXISTING HOMES OF THE PITMAN FAMILY AND THE DRILL FAMILY. ZOOMING IN ON THAT

>> PITMAN DOESN'T HAVE A SETBACK.

THIS IS AN EXISTING ISSUE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THROUGH THIS PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE EXISTING PUD, ACTUALLY WHERE THE LOT LINES ARE FOR THE LOTS THAT WOULD BE IN THE EXISTING PUD BACK RIGHT UP TO WHERE THE DRILL ON PITMAN HOME ARE IN THE AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ORIGINAL MDP MAP, IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE PITMAN OR DRILL HOME.

WE WENT TO THE PITTMAN'S HOME AND MET WITH THE DRILLS AT MY OFFICE. SO WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IS TO PULL BACK THE CUL-DE-SAC AND CREATE THE YELLOW AREA AND PULL BACK THE POND > THE AREA IN THEIELY WOULD BE ADDITIONAL LAND THAT WOULD GO TO THE PITTMAN FAMILY ADDITIONAL LAND TO THE DRILL FAMILY TO WHERE THEY HAVE BUFFERING IN FRONT OF THEM. PULLS THE LAKE BACK AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO CURB CUTS ARE IF THE TWO DRIVEWAYS TO GO TO THEIR TWO HOMES. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR THE PRESENTATION. YOU CAN SEE THE OVERALL MDP MAP THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND I WILL STOP TALKING BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S LATE IN THE DAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER

>> QUESTIONS. COMMENTS?

>> THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.

ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT NOW IS THE TIME.

SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON

THIS AGENDA ITEM. >> THANK YOU, IS THERE A

MOTION? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF FONG IS HERE.

MIKE COULD ANSWER. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, MIKE ROBER

SON, GROWTH MANAGEMENT. >> WE HAD AN OUTSTANDING THING

ON INTERCONNECTIVITY. >> YES, SIR.

>> I KNOW IT SEEMS TO ME, IT WRKS WITH WILD WOOD DRIVER.

HOWEVER WOULD WE NEED A SECONDARY EXIT FOR EVACUATION

PURPOSES OR ANYTHING? >> THE COMMENT I WOULD SAY IS NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR EVACUATION.

THERE IS AN OPEN COMMENT FROM STAFF.

WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT REQUIRES FOR PUDS PLANNED UNITS DEVELOPMENTS, REQUIRES INTERCONNECTIVITY WHEN FEASIBLE. IT'S THERE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR

THE BOARD TO YOU KNOW, TO -- >> TO CONSIDER IT FEASIBLE.

>> THE QUESTION I HAD ON TRAFFIC WAS HOW MUCH THE NEW INTERSECTION AT WILD WOOD AND 207 HAS HELPED.

BRINKOFF, HOW MUCH THAT HAS TAKEN OFF THAT STRETCH AND THE U.S. 1, OF COURSE, THE U.S. 1 IMPROVEMENTS WE HAD.

WILL THAT WAS THE QUESTION I HAD ON THAT.

>> I CAN CHECK INTO THAT WHILE YOU MAYBE -- HAVE QUESTIONS OR

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DELIBERATE. >> OR IF DOUG MAY KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL DID A STUDY ON THAT.

THE AND ALSO I KNOWLEDGE WE'RE GOING TO BE A FEW HUNDRED FEET SHORT ON SIDEWALK. CONNECTING THE PARK.

>> DOWN THE SIDEWALK OR DRIVE. >> LET ME COME BACK TO THAT ONE AND ANSWER THE PART. I DID ASK FONG NGUYEN I BELIEVE YESTERDAY, BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET UP HERE AND MAKE SURE MY NOTES, I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING INACCURATE HE WOULD CORRECT ME BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME HE WOULD BE HERE WATCHING OVER MY SHOULDER SO TO SPEAK. I ASKED THIS TRAFFIC BEFORE AND AFTER THE PROJECT. OBVIOUSLY BRINKOFF ROAD REDUCED THE NUMBER OF TRIPS TRAVELLING DOWN THIS SECTION OF WILD WOOD NORTH OF THE BRINKOFF ROAD, BETWEEN BRINKOFF AND 207 ON WILD WOOD. I THINK FONG CONFIRMED WHAT I SAID WHICH IS WE BELIEVE THAT THE TRAFFIC IS LOWER EVEN WITH THIS PROJECT THAN THE TRIPS WOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE BRINKOFF ROAD WAS BUILT IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> IT DOES. >> NOW THAT DRINK OFF 'LL -- BRINKOFF ROAD IS BUILT, THERE'S STILL TRAFFIC ON THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF WILD WOOD. THERE'S BEEN A PRETTY BIG

REDUCTION OF TRIPS. >> I WOULD ADD TO FOLLOW UP TO PAUL'S COMMENTS. I THINK PUBLIX WILL BE BUILT AND WILL TAKE TRAFFIC OFF WILD WOOD. YOU HAVE TRAFFIC OFF BRINKOFF.

THIS FITS RIGHT IN. TRYING TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK, BACK TO THE SIDEWALKS.

>> I WASN'T SURE ABOUT THE SECTION OF SIDEWALK YOU WERE

TALKING ABOUT. >> THE BEST I CAN TELL FROM THE AERIALS AND I WAS OUT. FOR SOME REASON, I WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND DROVE RIGHT BY IT.

IT'S THE ONE ENDS THE SUBDIVISION THERE NOW.

THE TOWN HOMES AND ENDS FOR THAT ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

LET ME GRAB -- >> CAN I --

>> LOOKS LIKE FROM THE AERIAL ENDS AT THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT.

YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE OUT PARCEL. >> SEE THAT LITTLE OUT PARCEL BETWEEN THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT AND THE ROAD.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT IN THIS SECTION ON THIS AERIAL? RIGHT HERE?

>> YEAH. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO HAVE THAT LINK WHERE THEY CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE STREET.

>> THE ONLY THING I CAN COMMENT ON RELATED TO THAT IS, OBVIOUSLY WHEN SOMETHING IS DONE WITH THIS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN AS PART OF THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS IF IT COMES THROUGH FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.

BUT THERE WOULD BE INTERCONNECTING SIDEWALK FOR ALL OF THE PROJECT. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SIDEWALK THROUGH ORCHARD PARK ONE AND THAT GETS YOU TO BRINKOFF ROAD.

>> SO YOU WILL HAVE SIDEWALK BETWEEN TWO THE NEIGHBORHOODS? THERE'S DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN ORCHARD PARK ONE AND TWO. SIDEWALK PROTECTION WILL BE

PROVIDED. >> I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT IN

THE PUD. >> NEVER MIND, I SEE IT RIGHT NOW. I DID MISS IT.

>> YES, SIR, AND THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, THIS LITTLE BLOWUP OF THE

COLOR RENDERING PEDESTRIAN >> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY MOTION? OR YOU'RE WAITING?

>> I THINK DOUG ANSWERED IT. IF HE COULD JUST SAY YES OR NO.

HATE TO KEEP EVERYBODY WAITING. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.

>> DO YOU WANT TO LEAP FROG OVER THIS?

>> NO, SIR I THINK HE'S CLOSE. HE'S THERE.

MIKE IS GOING TO GET HIM. >> ALSO IN FAIRNESS TO FONG NGUYEN, HE MAY NOT BE PREPARED FOR THIS.

I DO HAVE MR. CHANDLAR WHO HAS THE NUMBERS UP.

RASH CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF WHAT YOU

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FIND IN THE TURNING MOTIONS. >> SURE, FOR THE RECORD, THROUGH THE CHAIR, RAJ CHANDLAR. 8833 PERIMETER PARK, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. WE HAD COUNTS DONE RECENTLY FOR ANOTHER PROJECT IN THE AREA WHICH INCLUDED 207 AND WILD WOOD DRIVE AND HAD COUNTS BEFORE THE BRINKOFF ROAD CONNECTION WAS OPEN BACK IN 2018. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE A.M. PEAK, THE NORTHBOUND LEFT TURNS FROM WILD WOOD TO 207 AT THAT TIME WAS APPROXIMATELY 3:75 A.M. PEAK TURNS AND AFTER IT WAS OPEN AFTER BRINKOFF WAS OPENED, WE ARE LOOKING AT 260.

SAY ABOUT 30% REDUCTION TRAFFIC.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT. THANK YOU.

SORRY. STICK AROUND WE MAY NEED YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL MAKE A MOTION, I KIND OF WANT, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO TOWN. WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE WE PUT IN PLACE OR HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE THAT'S WORKING.

JOBS ARE COMING RIGHT THERE AT 207 AND 95.

PLUS PUBLIX WILL BE RIGHT THERE WITH JOBS AND EASY TO CONNECT TO. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION AND

ENACT ORDINANCE >> 27.

[10. Public Hearing * CPA (SS) 2021-14 Mills Place. A request for a Small Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment to change the Future Land Use Map designation of approximately 24.31 acres of land from Residential-B (Res-B) to Residential-C (Res-C). The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended denial with a 4-2 vote at its March 3, 2022 regular meeting. The Agency discussed the additional density allowed by Residential-C and increase in traffic along Lewis Speedway.]

[11. Public Hearing * PUD 2021-16 Mills Place. A request to rezone approximately 24.31 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) and Residential, Single Family (RS-3) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for the development of a maximum of 92 single family homes. The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended denial with a 4-2 vote. The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended denial with a 4-2 vote. The Agency discussed compatibility with the surrounding area, traffic on Lewis Speedway, and increased density.]

>> YEAH. PUD 2021-23 ORCHARD PARK TWO PUD. BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT

IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND ON ITEM 9. PLEASE VOTE.

>> PASSES 5-0. AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE 10 AND 11 UP AS, IT'S A QUASI JUDICIAL. 11 IS THE QUASI JUDICIAL AND THEN 10 BEFORE THAT IS THE COMP PLAN.

ANYWAY ON 10 AND 11 WE'RE EX PARTE HERE.

JEREMIAH. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

I MET ON MONDAY, YESTERDAY THE FOURTH APPROXIMATELY 9:30 A.M., MR. DOUG BURNETT. MR. PAUL MICHAEL REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. WE TALKED ABOUT SCOPE OF THE THIS PROJECT. SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND SOME OF THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC CONGESTION ISSUES, THEY ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T RECALL ANY CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE FROM ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIR. >> PAUL.

>> YES, SIR, I HAD A PHONE CALL FROM MR. GREG MILLS THAT WAS EARLY LAST WEEK, I THINK MONDAY. HE JUST DISCUSSED THE PZA HEARING AND THE DENIAL AND HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON MOVING FORWARD WHICH HE ALREADY KNEW THE ANSWERS BUT WE JUST DISCUSSED THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT CHANGING FROM RES B TO RES C. THAT'S IT MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> OKAY. AND ON THURSDAY MARCH 31ST, I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND PAUL MICHAEL TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED BY THE PZA, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT.

>> ON MARCH 28TH AT 9:30. I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND PAUL MICHAEL. WE SPOKE ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE FUTURE LAND MAP BEING RES B. THEY ARE ASKING FOR RES C.

WE DISCUSSED THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> ON MONDAY MARCH 28TH AT APPROXIMATELY 10:00 A.M.

>> I MET WITH DOUG BURNETT AND PAUL MICHAEL REPRESENTING THE

APPLICANT >> WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THE DENSITY AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

I WANT TO MAKE AN EFFORT HERE IF I CAN TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND THEN MAYBE A QUICK DIALOGUE WITH MR. BURNETT TO -- I HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION OR PROPOSAL. IF EVERYONE GOES ALONG, FINE.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GO ANOTHER WAY, FINE.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT STANDING ALONE LOOKING AT IT JUST AS IT'S DESIGNED. IN SPEAKING WITH MR. BURNETT OVER THE WEEKEND. I HAVE CONCERNS ON THE COMP PLAN

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AND PUD THE PZA VOTED 4-2 TO DENY THIS PROJECT RAISING THE ISSUES OF TRANSPORTATION AND DENSITY AND TRAFFIC, AND SINCE THEN, DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. BURNETT, THE APPLICANT HAS OFFERED SOME, WHAT I CONSIDER SUBSTANTIAL MITIGATION DEALING WITH TRAFFIC THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD RESOLVE MOST OF THE ISSUES BUT I WOULD WANT TO SEND BACK TO PZA FOR THEIR REVIEW.

I DON'T WANT, PERSONALLY I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN DENIED BY THE PZA.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WE SEND THIS BACK, WE REMAND THIS BACK TO THE PZA FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION ON BOTH THE COMP PLAN AND THE PUD AND THEN ONCE THEY HEAR IT, AND ADDRESS THE PROJECT THAT I THINK WILL BE ENHANCED BY THE APPLICANT, WE THEN CAN CONSIDER IT BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I MEAN AGAIN, I THINK IN GENERAL IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, NUMBER ONE, THE PRICE POINT HERE IS $327,000 I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED. WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD RANGE FOR THOSE WORKERS THAT WOULD BE ABLE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, IT'S NOT FAR FROM HERE. ON WOODLAWN JUST OFF LEWIS SPEEDWAY. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING MAKES A LOT OF SENSE WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC.

SO, UNLESS SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN AND ADVOCATE SORT OF ANOTHER DIRECTION, I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND BOTH OF THESE BACK TO THE PZA FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AFTER WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT OF COURSE. IT THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> YEAH. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE

BETTER TO SEND IT BACK. >> TO BE HONEST, AFTER GOING UNTIL 2 O'CLOCK, I THOUGHT, I WAS TRYING TO SPEED THINGS UP.

I'M HAPPY TO SPEND ANOTHER HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF ON HEARING THIS.

>> THAT WAS NOT AT ALL MY SUGGESTION.

>> AS A FORMER GOVERNOR ADVISED ME ONCE WHAT I WAS ADVISING HIM ON A CABINET ITEM, I WANT YOU TO BE COMPREHENSIVE YET SUCCINCT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I TREAT THAT TO GOVERNOR

ASKEW IN 1974. >> THIS WAS LIKE DON'T LAWYER,

MAKE IT EASY, PLAIN AND QUICK. >> I THINK THAT THE TWO OF THE BIG QUESTIONS FROM PZA THAT I WAS ABLE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN TO REFRESH MYSELF, ONE WAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SUFFICIENTLY OF WIDTH TO ADDRESS A LEFT CENTER TURN LANE? COUPLED WITH THAT, HOW DOES THAT LEFT CENTER TURN LANE INTERACT WITH HORSESHOE CIRCLE SOUTH? OKAY.

AND SO WE KNOW WE CAN ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES NOW.

WE HAVE A DRAWING TO DEAL WITH THAT.

OF COURSE, PZA THERE IS NO LIGHT AT AVENUE D SAN SEBASTIAN VIEW.

THIS OLD AND GOES AROUND THE LEWIS SPEEDWAY AND THERE IS NO RED LIGHT THERE. POTENTIALLY THEIR SHARE OF MONEY, FUNDS OR GET REALLY CLOSE TO FUNDING A POTENTIAL RED LIGHT AT THAT LOCATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROPOSE AND TALK ABOUT. IT IS NOT A CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT BUT IT IS A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.

ROSS CHANDLER WHO WAS SPEAKING EARLIER WHO IS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT WAS LITERALLY SPEAKING 20 MINUTES AGO GETTING PREPPED TO COME UP TO HER.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT AT PZA DOCTOR MCCORMICK SAID THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR A TOWNHOME LOCATION AND HIGHER DENSITY. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ALL OVER THE BOARD WHAT I DIDN'T HAVE WHAT IS OUR STARTING POINT FOR THIS PRODUCT. WE ALL SEE THE VALUES ON THE NORTHWEST THAT ARE 500,000, $600,000.

WE ARE SEEING RETAIL PRICES AT 550,000 IN THAT AREA ALL DAY LONG. OUR PRICE POINT WAS AT 327 AND IS A STRONG NUMBER ESPECIALLY IN THIS LOCATION LIKE THIS WHERE YOU HAVE AS MANY EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND NORTH OF GROMMET AND THE OTHER EMPLOYERS IN THE AREA.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AND HIT HARDER ON

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PZA AND ANSWER THE QUESTION. MY IMPRESSION WHEN WE WENT BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO MY QUESTION ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CONCERNING TO DOCTOR HILLS AT LEAST.

WITH THAT I WILL BE QUIET AND STOP TALKING.

>> THANK YOU, DOUG. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON REMAINING ITEM NUMBER 10.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PZA.

SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> MR. CHAIR, I AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? WE DID NOT HEAR IF THERE WAS.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE SPEAK.

>> I THINK THAT WHOLE GROUP. [INDISCERNABLE]

>> WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE ZONING TWICE AND THEY SAID NO. NOW HE'S MAKING CHANGES AGAIN.

THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NO MONEY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY AFTER RIGHT COMING IN AND THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID AT THE LAST MEETING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT HAS CHANGED AGAIN.

CAN YOU GIVE US A POINT? >> LET ME SAY TWO THINGS SINCE I AM THE ONE PROPOSING THE MOTION THAT WE SEND IT BACK TO PZA I'M DOING THAT RATHER THAN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT WAS DENIED BY THE PZA.

I HAD THIS QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT CAME BACK TO ME AND SAID THEY HAVE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WERE NOT HEARD BY THE PZA THE PREVIOUS TIME IT WAS PRESENTED.

THESE ARE NEW CHANGES. INSTEAD OF ACTING ON THOSE TODAY AND APPROVING THE PROJECT MY RECOMMENDATION TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS IS TO SEND IT BACK TO THE PZA SO THEY CAN HEAR THE NEW CHANGES AND THEN VOTE ON THE PROJECT WITH THESE ADDITIONS TO THE IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES WHICH THEY WILL HAVE A FULL OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS, YOU WILL HAVE A FULL OPPORTUNITY TO AND THEN AFTER THEY VOTE IT WILL COME BACK TO US FOR THE DELAY A DECISION AT THAT TIME.

>> SO, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW POINT BY POINT WHAT CHANGES?

>> I'M SORRY? >> DO WE KNOW THE CHANGES?

>> HE JUST DISCUSSED THEM. >> TOWNHOUSES?

IS THAT WHAT IT WILL BE? >> HE JUST TALKED ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND A TURN LINE EXPANSION WHICH WOULD DIRECT TRAFFIC AND THE PRICE POINT OF WHAT WOULD BE BUILT.

NONE OF THOSE HAVE BEEN HEARD BY THE PZA AND I THOUGHT IT ONLY FAIR BECAUSE HE HAS MADE THE CHANGES POST PZA MEETING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THOSE CHANGES RATHER THAN FOR US TO DENY THE PROJECT. THAT IS MY PERSONAL POSITION NOT ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS AND THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO SEND IT BACK TO THE PZA.

>> THEY DID MENTION AT THE LAST MEETING THERE WOULD BE NO TURNING LANES. THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US LAST TIME AND NOW THEY ARE CHANGING IT.

>> HE HAS CHANGED HIS POSITION.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I HOPE THAT WAS SUFFICIENT FOR NEXT NATION.

I WILL MOVE TO REMAND 10 AND 11 TO THE PZA FOR FURTHER-

>> JUST AN INTERRUPTION. WE HAVE A GROUP OF LADIES THAT I THINK WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I THINK THEY TOOK OFF WORK TO SPEAK SO WE COULD HEAR WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT I THOUGHT I CALLED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND NO ONE SPOKE AND THEN SHE CAME UP AND WANTED TO SPEAK.

>> I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTOOD.

>> IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE FEEL FREE.> WE WILL OPEN IT BACK UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT OFFICIALLY.T THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THOSE ITEMS BACK UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS THIS WILL BE ON ITEMS NUMBER 10 AND 11.

THE MILLS - HEAVEN TO BETSY. THE MILLS PLACE DEVELOPMENT HANDED BACK TO PZA. THIS WILL NOT BE ANYTHING WE WILL VOTE ON AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ALICE DANIELS, WE BEEN THERE FOR 47 YEARS. I HAVE A PAPER TO READ.

I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE MILLS PROJECT WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY AND DENSITY. BEING THAT IF APPROVED THIS WOULD SQUEEZE 92 HOMES INTO 22.3 ACRES.

THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WOULD BE 4300 SQUARE FEET, WON 10 OF AN ACRE. THAT'S A LOT OF DENSITY FOR OUR AREA. WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED

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THAT THOSE SPEEDWAYS AT VERTICAL LEVEL WITH THIS PROJECT IF APPROVED IT COULD ADD 920 MORE CAR TRIPS AND A DAILY AND ALMOST 100 AT PEAK HOURS.

THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T GO OUT OF NORTH HORSESHOE RD. IF YOU GO THROUGH THERE YOU WILL BE HIT.

WE HAVE TO GO AROUND AND GO TO S. HORSESHOE RD.VEN THEN BECAUSE GRUMMAN USES LEWIS SPEEDWAY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE USE LEWIS SPEEDWAY TO GET ONTO THE 312 EXTENSION. YOU DON'T GO ANYWHERE ON OUR ROAD BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE IF YOU ARE LUCKY YOU CAN GET OUT AT 5:00. IT IS VERY BUSY.

YOU KNOW? IT IS DANGEROUS.

AT THE TIME, WE WERE TOLD THERE WERE NO UPGRADES AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. THEN WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY CANNOT FOUR-LANE IT. RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT PROPERTY IS TO THE EAST AND THEY ARE HALF-ACRE TO ONE ACRE HOME SITES. WE HAVE ONE ACRE.

LIKE I SAID, WE BEEN THERE 47 YEARS.

THE NEIGHBOR NORTH OF PLANTATION IS DUPLEXES.

I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST FOR COMP AMENDMENT AND REZONING SO THIS APPLICANT MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGN A MORE SUITABLE LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLY CONSIDERING ALTERNATE ACCESS POINTS FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

LIKE I SAID, THE TRAFFIC, I HATE TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETTING THAT CROWDED. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME, I

APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES SIR?

>> I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK BUT SINCE WE REOPENED IT,

TRAFFIC IS BIG AND. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME? >> JOE MACHEN MARY, ADDRESS]. IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE HAVE OBJECTIVE A1.2 5C VERY KEY.

IT SAYS THAT IN ORDER TO APPROVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER AND THE AMENDMENT NEEDS TO PROVE, REALLY, THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ADEQUATE, THAT IT EXISTS, OR THAT IT IS PROGRAMMED OR FUNDED THROUGH AN ADOPTED PROGRAM TO BE INCREASED.

THAT IS KEY AND THAT IS COUNTYWIDE.

AND SO, IT IS IMPORTANT TO APPLY THAT RULE EVEN COUNTYWIDE. SO RECENTLY, THE COMMISSIONERS HEARD THE MAC ? V PROPERTY AND SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS DENIED IT 5-0. THE CONCERN WAS STATE ROUTE 16 AND THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC ON STATE ROUTE 16.

NO MATTER THAT THIS APPLICANT WAS GOING TO PAY THEIR PROPORTIONAL SHARE FAIR AS FONG ANSWER THE COST TO IMPROVE THE ROAD WAS 90 MILLION SO THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PAY 700,000 WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DENT.

ULTIMATELY MAC-V WAS DENIED BECAUSE THERE WAS INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE COST TO IMPROVE NEITHER PROGRAMMED OR FUNDED. THE PROJECT DID NOT MEET A1 ? 2 5C YOU DID NOT SAY THAT BUT THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

APPLYING THIS EVENLY AND BY THE WAY, I LOVE WHAT OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS NOW DOING, SHOWING US A FOUR MILE RADIUS WITH A WINDSHIELD ON IMPACTED ROAD AND COST.

CLEARLY, WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD IT HERE THAT THE ROAD IS CRITICAL. AND, THAT IS PROVEN BY THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREADSHEET WHICH CLEARLY SHOWS THAT SEGMENT AS CRITICAL. WHEN YOU EVENLY APPLY WHAT WAS ALREADY DECIDED ON MAC-V THERE WAS AN IDENTICAL SITUATION WHERE YES, THIS APPLICANT WILL PAY A FAIR SHARE BUT IT WON'T COME CLOSE TO THE $11 MILLION THAT WAS NEEDED.

$11 MILLION. IT IS IDENTICAL TO MAC-V.

I WAS GOING TO URGE YOU TO DENY.

THE ISSUE IS KEY, COUNTYWIDE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PROJECT AND YOU HAVE TAKEN A STEP WITH MAC-V AND I THINK IT'S AN

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IMPORTANT STEP AND CONTINUE THAT PATTERN.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT NOW IS THE TIME TO COME FORWARD.

SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS.

>> OKAY. THE STAFF WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? AGAIN, I WILL MOVE TO REMAND

[13. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2021-22 Deerpark Commerce Center. Request for a Major Modification to the St. Augustine 500,000 SF Warehouse PUD (Ord. 2005-91, as amended) to add approximately 5.98 acres; to change the PUD name to Deerpark Commerce Center; to allow a 4% upland natural vegetation in lieu of the 5% requirement; to provide a maximum height of buildings of 49 feet; and to revise the Master Development Plan (MDP) Text and Map. The subject property is located at 3800 Deerpark Blvd and includes the two unaddressed lots located to the north. The Planning and Zoning Agency (PZA) heard this request during their regularly scheduled public hearing on February 17, 2022. The item was recommended for approval with a vote of 6-1. Agency members discussed the wetlands onsite, upland buffers, traffic in the area, and proposed height of building. There was no public comment.]

BOTH 10 AND 11 TO THE PZA FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND BROUGHT BACK TO US FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES, 5-0. OKAY?LL RIGHT.

WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF 12. I BELIEVE, THAT WAS OUR FIRST ITEM AND THEN WE WILL MOVE NOW TO 13.

13. DEDEER PARK COMMERCE CENTER.

>> IS US ANOTHER ONE? OKAY.

WE HAVE ANOTHER EX-PARTE. COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH R.

BLOCKER? >> YES SIR.

I MET WITH IN-LINE REAL ESTATE PARTNERS.

SPOKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE TRAFFIC DENSITY.

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY EMAILS ON THIS MATTER.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN I HAD A PHONE CALL FROM MISS COURTNEY GAVE HER WE DISCUSSED A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT 207, TRAFFIC ON 207 AND WHAT CHANGES SHE THOUGHT WOULD BE THERE AND THAT'S IT.

>> AND ON THURSDAY, MARCH 31ST, ABOUT 1:30 I MET WITH COURTNEY AVERY AND CHARLES MARIANA TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND COVER BASICALLY THE DESIGN AND MEETING THE LDC CODE ETC.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ON MONDAY MARCH 28TH, AT A PROXIMALLY 10:30 I MET WITH COURTNEY GABER AND CHARLES MARIANA AND STAFF TO DISCUSS THE LOCATION AND NEED FOR MORE WAREHOUSE SPACE AND SOME OF THE WAIVER THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR

AND THAT'S IT. >> OKAY.

>> ON MONDAY MARCH 28TH AT APPROXIMATELY 9:30 I MET WITH COURTNEY GABER AND CHARLES MARIANA AND STAFF TO DISCUSS TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND A POTENTIAL TRAFFIC LIGHTING AREA.

>> OKAY. I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THAT WAS OUR LAST EX-PARTE ITEM OF THE DAY CARE.

>> OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

COURTNEY GABER'S 100 WATT STONE PLACED SAINT AUGUSTINE I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND A PROPERTY OWNER LAST WEEK, DEER PARK VENTURE LLC. OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING IS HERE IN MR. BYRON PEACOCK FROM PEACOCK CONSULTING GROUP IS HERE AS WELL AS MR. DAVID BURCH THE MANAGING PARTNER OF IN LIGHT REAL ESTATE GROUP WHICH IS THE OWNER OF DEER PARK INDUSTRIAL VENTURE LLC. I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THIS PRESENTATION AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.

THE APPLICANT IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION INTO THE SAINT AUGUSTINE 500,000 SQUARE-FOOT WAREHOUSE PUD.

A FULLY ENTITLED BEAUTY THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED IN 2005 AND REAPPROVED IN 2015 WHICH EXTENDED THE PHASING.

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS APPLICATION IS TO REDUCE INTENSITY AND TO PULL IN AN ADDITIONAL ALMOST 6 ACRE PARCEL TO INCLUDE IN THE PUD SO ESSENTIALLY THE PLAN INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE LARGE WAREHOUSE WE ARE BREAKING IT OUT TO TWO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES AND WE ARE UPDATING THE NAME OF THE PUD TO DEER PARK COMMERCE CENTER AND ASKING FOR ONE WAIVER. THE PROPERTY IS 86.48 ACRES LOCATED IN THE ELKTON AREA ALONG THE I-95 ESTATE ROAD INTERSECTION OFF OF DEER PARK BLVD.

AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE SAINT AUGUSTINE INDUSTRIAL PARK AREA. IT IS SURROUNDED BY EXISTING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND IS BORDERED BY THE EAST SIDE OF I-95. THE PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MIXED-USE. YOU CAN SEE THE CURRENT ZONING MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS THE PUD AND AGAIN THAT IS CURRENTLY ENTITLED AND THEN WE ARE PULLING IN THE LAST ALMOST 6 ACRES OF OPEN RURAL ZONED PROPERTY IN THAT AREA.

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THIS IS A LOOK AT THE CURRENT PUD AS IT IS ENTITLED TODAY VERSUS THE REVISED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP THAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THIS MODIFICATION.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM WE HAVE YELLOW PORTIONS WHICH IS THE ALMOST 6 ACRES WE ARE PULLING AND.

THE PUD IS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR A MAXIMUM ONGOING TO USE ROUND NUMBERS FOR THE SAKE OF MATH 575,000 SQUARE FEET.

OUR APPLICATION IS PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 501 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND THE MPD MAP FURTHER DROPS THAT DOWN BECAUSE THE CURRENT BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ARE ABOUT 430,000 SQUARE FEET SO THAT IS A BIG DROP IN INTENSITY IF YOU'RE DOING THE MATH ALMOST 145,000 SQUARE FEET.

WITH THIS REDUCTION IN INTENSITY OF PUD OUR VESTA TRAFFIC IS ALSO GOING TO GO DOWN WITH OUR TRIPS.

SINCE THE PZA THERE WAS ONE CHANGE TO THE MASTER PLAN MAP.

WE HAD THAT WITH OUR PZA MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

THE BUILDINGS ARE DEPICTED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WENT UP ABOUT 4000 SQUARE FEET EACH AND IT'S WITHIN THAT FORM TO 430,000 SQUARE-FOOT TOTAL. AND ONE CHANGE I HAVE ALERTED STAFF TO, THE CURRENT PUD TEXT AS SUBMITTED IN YOUR PACKET HAS ALL OF THE CURRENT OWNERS WHICH ARE NOW THE FORMER OWNERS BECAUSE DEER PARK INDUSTRIAL CLOSED LAST THURSDAY ON ALL THE PARCELS. I HAVE PROVIDED THAT TEXT TO STAFF WHICH BASICALLY UPDATES IT TO REFLECT THAT DEER PARK INDUSTRIAL VENTURE IS THE ONLY OWNER OF THE PARCEL SUBJECT TO THIS PUD. AGAIN, THERE IS THE MAP.

WE ARE PRESERVING OVER 10 AND A HALF WETLANDS WE HAVE ON-SITE STORMWATER AS OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT UTE WE HAVE TWO INGRESS AND EGRESS EXITS TO DEER PARK BLVD.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE TWO WAREHOUSES.

DUE TO THE PERMIT HISTORY AND THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON-SITE THERE IS ONE WAIVER THAT WE ARE REQUESTING AND THIS IS TO SECTION 5.030383 WHICH REQUIRES FIVE PERCENT OF PRESERVATION OF THE UPLAND NATURAL VEGETATION. BASED ON THE PERMIT HISTORY WHEN THE COUNTY IMPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR PUD IN 2005 EVEN THOUGH THIS PROVISION WAS ACTIVE IN YOUR CODE IT WAS NOT SET FORTH IN THE PUD TEXT BUT DEEMED MET.

WHEN WE OPENED UP THIS PUD WE QUICKLY RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE OF THE SILVER CULTURE ACTIVITIES ON THE SITE THROUGH THE LAST 15 YEARS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NATURAL VEGETATION THAT EXISTS. WE HAVE REQUESTED AND WORKED WITH STAFF THAT WE WOULD IN LOUISVILLE FIVE PERCENT WE WOULD BE PRESERVING A MINIMUM OF FOUR PERCENT WHICH IS 1.98 ACRES. TO SUMMARIZE THIS PROPOSED PUD MAJOR MODIFICATION DOES BRING MUCH-NEEDED INDUSTRIAL SPACE TO THE I-95 CORRIDOR AND INCLUDING NEW JOBS.E ARE REDUCING INTENSITY HERE THE APPLICANT ALREADY HAS CONSTRUCTION PLANS UNDER APPROVAL WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THEY ARE READY TO BREAK GROUND ON WHAT WILL BE A WAREHOUSE COMPLEX.

AGAIN, THE VESTED TRAFFIC TRIPS ARE DROPPING TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY ENTITLED AND WE ARE PRESERVING 10.5 EIGHT ACRES OF WETLANDS. THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND IS CONSISTENT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE HAVE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY PUBLIC OPPOSITION.

WE DID RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM PLANNING AND ZONING AT 6-1 AND WITH THAT I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS MODIFICATION AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.

PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT.

>> CHUCK LEVIN ASCII, MY CONCERN IS THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED . THIS IS A GOOD PORTION AND I'M WONDERING WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF IMPACT ON WETLANDS IN THAT AREA. THE OTHER ONE IS THE TRAFFIC ON THE INTERSECTION AT 207, AS BAD AS IT IS RIGHT NOW COMING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY ACROSS THE STREET, ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR A STOPLIGHT TO BE PUT IN? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS

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ITEM? >> YES I WILL MAKE ANA MOTION.

NOW, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET ONE THERE BUT IT IS NOT WARRANTED THROUGH STATE GUIDELINE.

I WILL DO A MOTION AND ACT ON THIS 22 ? 2028.

[14. Flood Damage Control Regulations - Land Development Code Amendment. Land Development Code Amendment - Flood Damage Control Regulations The attached draft ordinance proposes modifications to the text of Part 3.03.00 of the Land Development Code (Flood) and Article XII Definitions from the Land Development Code]

[15. Revisions to Local Ordinance Chapter 1 of the Florida Building Code. This is the first reading of revisions to the Local Ordinance of Chapter 1 of the Florida Building Code. The various changes presented by staff focus on updates to our local Flood Regulations, with other changes to the local administration of the Building Code. These revisions will increase the health, safety, and welfare of the citizens of St. Johns County.]

29? APPROVING A MAJOR MOD 2021 ? 2022 DEER PARK COMMERCE CENTER FINDING AS FACT AS PROVIDED IN

THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECONDS.

>> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE. IT WAS STILL SHOWING A FORMER VOTE VOTE TAKEN, WE ARE GOOD. ALL RIGHT THAT TAKES US TO 14.

OKAY. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT. ONE OF MY FAVORITE SUBJECTS.

>> GOOD MORNING. LESLIE WOODWARD GROWTH MANAGEMENT. I WILL BE PRESENTING ITEMS 14 AND 15 TOGETHER. THE SLIDES ARE PREPARED IN THE OPPOSITE ORDER THAN THEY ARE IN YOUR AGENDA SO I WILL TALK ABOUT CHAPTER 1 FIRST AND THEN LAND DEVELOPMENT.

PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE MAJORITY OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE CHAPTER 1 ORDINANCE PROPOSED TODAY ARE INTENDED TO ALIGN CHAPTER 1 WITH THE MOST RECENT EDITION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AND THAT WOULD BE THE 2020 EDITION.

ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THE LOCALLY ADAPTED CHAPTER 1 ARE INTENDED TO SERVE AS CLARIFICATION, GUIDANCE OR TO INCREASE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SOME OF THESE CHANGES INCLUDE MOST NOTABLY ADDING APPENDIX Q FOR TINY HOMES AND INCREASING THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE CODE TO THE 2021 EDITION.

THE SITE DEBRIS CLEANUP WE FOUND THAT TO BE A LOCAL NECESSITY ESPECIALLY IN THE CASE OF IMPENDING STORMS TO HAVE CONTRACTORS SECURE THEIR SITES AS WELL AS CHANGES TO THE LOCAL TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS FLOOD DAMAGE CONTROL REGULATIONS. SO, THE FIRST OF THOSE AMENDMENTS IS TO REMOVE THE FIVE-YEAR ACCUMULATIVE LOOK BACK PERIOD DESCRIBED BY THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

IT IS TO RESTORE THE MINIMUM DEFINITION PROVIDED BY THE SBC THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. THIS WILL ALLOWED FOR A LARGER MODEL OF WORK WITHOUT TRIGGERING THAT 50 PERCENT RULE WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THE STRUCTURE TO BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THE CLIENTS WITH BOTH FOUNDATION REQUIREMENTS OR ELEVATIONS. WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO AMEND LOCAL ORDINANCE CHAPTER 1 TO LIMIT THE USE OF CLOSED FOUNDATIONS IN COASTAL ZONES. CURRENTLY THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE SAYS ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVED STRUCTURES IN THE COASTAL A ZONE ARE REQUIRED TO BE BUILT SIMILARLY TO THE E ZONES WHICH ARE ON THE ATLANTIC COAST WHERE THERE IS AN EXCEPTION WHICH ALLOWS THE USE OF DEEP BACKFILL STEM WALL FOUNDATIONS PAIRED COASTAL A ZONES ARE AREAS WHERE THE WAVE IMPACT FROM A STORM WILL RANGE FROM 1 AND A HALF TO 3 FEET IN HEIGHT AND POST HURRICANE DAMAGE ASSESSMENT FOLLOWING MICHAEL IT WAS DETERMINED THAT STRUCTURES IN A ZONES FARED BETTER WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED ON PILES.

STAFF BELIEVES PILE FOUNDATIONS ARE APPROPRIATE FOUNDATION TYPES IN THESE AREAS ACED ON THE FINDING OF THIS ASSESSMENT.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY 83 STRUCTURES LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF ST. JOHN COUNTY COASTAL A ZONE.