[2. ZVAR 2021-20 Collins RV. Request for a Zoning Variance to Land Development Code, Section 6.01.03.H.5 to allow for a recreational vehicle to be located within the required Front Yard; specifically located at 230 Pizzaro Road.]

BARGAS HERE? MR. BARGAS.

>> SPEAKER: HI THERE. I'M SALEENA RANDOLPH.

MR. BARGAS WENT TO THE WRONG BUILDING.

WE JUST FOUND THAT ON IT. SO HE IS ON HIS WAY.

IS THERE NI WA WE CAN MOVE THIS? >> WE WILL, MS. RANDOLPH.

LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER 2. MS. COLLINS, YOU'RE UP FIRST.

>> SPEAKER: DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO

DECLARE FOR THIS ADVERTISEMENT? >> DR. HILSENBECK: I DID.

I DROVE BY FROT LAST NIGHT AND THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> DR. MCCORMICK: I ALSO DROVE BY THE PROPERTY A COUPLE DAYS

AGO, ACTUALLY. >> A ANYBODY ES.

NZ COLLINS. >> AND GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS KATERINA CONN AND I WILL BE REPRESENTING THE COLIN FAMILY ON THE ZONING VARIANCE TODAY.

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THE REQUEST MADE IS TO ALLOW FOR A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD OF THE ADDRESS 230 PIZARRO ROAD. SO HERE WE HAVE THE LOCATION MAP, AND ON THE SQUARE LOCATED HERE IS WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS LOCATED, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR STREET IS A DEAD END AND THEN DIRECTLY BEHIND WE HAVE CANAL WATERFRONT.

AND THEN HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL MAP SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. SO INDICATED IN THE YELLOW SQUARE IS OUR HOUSE, AND THEN DIRECTLY BEHIND WE HAVE THE CANAL WATERFRONT. YOU CAN SEE THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR HOUSE. AND THEN IN FRONT YOU CAN SEE THE TRAVEL TRAILER LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND HERE WE HAVE A FLUE MAP OF F THE PROPERTY AS WELL AND A ZONING MAP. NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HARDSHIPS AND THE THE REASON WHY I'M REQUESTING THE ZONING VARIANCE. SO MY PARENTS BOTH OVER THE AGE OF 55 AND MY DAD IS DISABLE AND HE HAS MANY SERIOUS HEALTH CONDITIONS, AND SO ESSENTIALLY V TRAILER LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY HAS MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR MY PARENTS TO MAINTAIN IT, TO LOAD AND UNLOAD WHENEVER THEY TAKE A TRIP, TO SANITIZE AND CLEAN THE TRAVEL TRATOR. AND THEN FURTHERMORE -- ON THE -- THE TRAVEL TRAILER IS LOCATED ON EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS THE ONLY PLACE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE IT. SO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WE HAVE THE SEPTIC TANK AND DRAINAGE FIELD SO ESSENTIALLY PUTTING THE TRAVEL TRAILER ON TOP THAT OF WOULD DAMAGE IT SO IT'S UNFORTUNATELY NOT AN OPTION.

AS FOR THE REAR PART OF THE PROPERTY WE HAVE THE CANAL WATERFRONT. SO THERE'S JUST NO ROOM AS WELL ON THE BACK OF THE FROT SINCE THE WATERFRONT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE HOUSE. SO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS THE ONLY LOCATION WHICH IS WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS NOW THAT WE CAN HAVE IT. SO HERE WE HAVE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. SO THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS WHERE THE TRAVEL TRAILER IS LOCATED.

AND SO I WANT YOU TO SEE AS WELL THAT THE TRAVEL TRAILER IS APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET AWAY FROM THE MAIN ROAD, AND THEN THE PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY SURVEYED SO THIS IS VERY ACCURATE, AND SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE THE VERY EDGE OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE TRAVEL TRAILER IS VERY CLOSE TO. IT'S RIGHT ON IT.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OR THE -- EXCUSE ME -- RATHER, THE HOUSE, AND SO THE TRAV TRAILER IS LOCATED RIGHT UP TO THE HOUSE, AND RIGHT AGAINSTN THE EAST SIDE.

AS WELL ON WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S INDICATED WHERE WE HAVE THE DRAINAGE FIELD, AND THE SEPTIC TANK, AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE LIKE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE HOUSE THAT WE HAVE THE DOCK AND THEN FURTHERMORE THE CANAL, SO TON AREA THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HOUSE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY KEEP THE TRAVEL TRAILER LOCATED IS GOING TO BE WHERE IT IS NOW OAT EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THIS IS THE CURRENT PLACEMENT OF THE TRAVEL TRAILER. SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET A BETTER VIEW. AND THEN THIS IS GOING TO BE THE WEST SIDE. SO ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TRAVEL TRAILER IS PUSHED FARTHER BACK INTO THE PROPERTY, SO HOPEFULLY IT GIVES YOU A BETTER POINT OF VIEW OF HOW FAR BACK IT IS 20 FEET AWAY FROM THE MAIN ROAD.

AND THEN HERE IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THE TRAVEL TRAILER IS REY CONCEALED WITH AN OAK TREE AND THE FENCE ON OUR PROPERTY, SO IT'S HARD TO SEE AND IT'S NOT REALLY AN EYE SORE WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN OUR STREET.

AND ESSENTIALLY I WANT TO POINT OUT, TOO, OUR STREET IS A DEAD END, SO ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE GETTING ON OUR STREET ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ACTUALLY LIVE ON OUR STREET.

AND LASTLY, HERE ON THIS SLIDE WE HAVE OUR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.

THEIR NAMES ARE LISTED AND THEIR ADDRESSES, AND THESE NEIGHBORS HAVE NO OBJECTION TO OUR TRAVEL TRAILER BEING ON OUR PROPERTY.

AND WE HAVE EMAILS AND LETTERS ON FILE FROM THESE FOLLOWING NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT BEING ON OUR PROPERTY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR OUR HARDSHIPS AND DIFFICULTIES. THIS REALLY MEANS A LOT TO ME AND MY FAMILY, AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK.

THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> MS. PERKINS: HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THAT TRAVEL TRAILER ON

THE PROPERTY? >> SPEAKER: SO THE TRAVEL TRAILER HERE -- IS IT POB IF I CAN ASK MY PARENTS ONE QUESTION

BEFORE I COMPLETE THAT ANSWER >> MR. MATOVINA: ABSOLUTELY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND SO THIS CAM SER A 2020 SO WE'VE HAD THIS CAMPER ON OUR PROPERTY FOR TWO YEARS, BUT WE HAVE HAD TRAVEL TRAILERS JUST LIKE THAT ONE FOR MANY YEARS, LIKE OVER THE LAST 18 YEARS ON THE PROPERTY, SO THERE'S ALWAYS

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BEEN SOMETHING THERE BUT THIS ONE'S A NEW UPGRADE ONE WE HAD

THAT 2020. >> MS. PERKINS: THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, THERE'S A BUNCH OF TREES.

IS IT VACANT. >> SPEAKER: THERE'S A HOUSE THERE. YOU JUST CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S FURTHER ON THE EAST BUT, YES, THERE'S A HOUSE THERE.

>> MS. PERKINS: IN ONE OF YOUR PICTURES THERE WAS A HUGE RV IN THE DRIVEWAY. DO YOU KNOW IF -- GO BACK TO THE OTHER PICTURE. SEE THE RV IN THE BACK?

>> SPEAKER: I SEE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.

>> MS. PERKINS: IS THAT ALWAYS PARKED THERE AS WELL?

>> SPEAKER: SO THAT IS A NEW NEIGHBOR THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY SO THAT IS THEIR TRAV AV WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN HOURS OURS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY KEEP IT PRIMARILY, BUT WHEN THIS PHOTO

WAS TAKEN, IT WAS THERE. >> MS. PERKINS: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> MR. MATOVINA: DO WE HAVE

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? >> MS. PERKINS: KATHERINE COLIN. COLIN.

OH, THAT'S YOU. IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IS THAT EVERYTHING? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> MR. MATOVINA: NO SPEAKER CARDS.

SO WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MS. PERKINS: MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 202120 COLLINS RV BASED UPON EIGHT CONDITIONS. AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> MR. MATOVINA:. >> MR. MATOVINA: SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND.

THE SECOND BY SACH. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

DR. HILSENBECK. >> DR. HILSENBECK: WHEN I DROVE THROUGH THERE HAS NIGHT IT WAS EVENING ACTUALLY, ABOUT 5:30, I WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY OTHER POTENTIAL TRAVEL TRAILERS WERE PARKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THERE WERE QUITE A FEW.

THERE ARE EVEN MORE BOATS OUT IN FRONT YARDS.

QUITE A FEW. SO I KNOW WE HAVE TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION HERE, AND ONE OF THEM SORT OF SUMS THIS UP FOR ME.

IT SAYS, "IT WOULD BE A SHAME FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE TURNED INTO A PARKING FOR RVS WHICH IT SEEMS TO BE BECOMING." WELL, I AGREE. IT DOES SEEM TO BE BECOMING THAT. I DID SEE QUITE A FEW TRAVEL TRAILERS, TRAILERS, RVS, BOATS, ET CETERA, STORED IN PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS OR SIDE YARDS.

SO I'M TORN ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SINGLE THESE FOLKS OUT WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE DOING I IT. I DON'T KNOW IF -- SOME MASS FOARPT SUN LIKELY. THERE'S NOT AN HOA IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I JUST CAN'T SEE PENALIZING THESE PEOPLE. I KNOW THERE WAS A PRIDE COMPLAINT FILED ANONYMOUSLY ON THIS AND I DO RESPECT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTING TO KEEP UP APPEARANCES OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I JUST CANNOT SEE PENALIZING THE --

THESE APPLICANTS. >> MR. MATOVINA: I'M TORN LIKE YOU ARE, TOO, BUT I KIND OF LEAN IN THE DIRECTION YOU'RE LEANING TO. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> DR. MCCORMICK: I JUST ADD TO THAT BECAUSE WHEN I WENT THERE, IT WAS DAYLIGHT, SO IT WASN'T IN THE EVENING, AND WHAT RICHARD DESCRIBES IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAW AS WELL.

A LOT OF, ACTUALLY PROBE MORE BOAT TRAILERS AND BOATS THAN THERE WERE RVS BUT THERE WERE A FEW RVS AS WELL.

TON THING I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR RV WAS THAT IT'S RIGHT ON THE -- IT'S ON THE GRASS, OFF THE ROAD.

THERE IS ROOM ON THE ROAD WHERE IT COULD BE AS WELL, AND THEN IT COULDN'T BE AS CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORING YARD.

IF THAT WERE A FACTOR THAT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO SAY NO TO THAT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'D HAVE TO AGREE THAT EVERYBODY, PRACTICALLY ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME SITUATION EXCEPT A COUPLE, LIKE

[1. TUP 2022-01 Arbor Mill @ Mill Creek HOA. Request for a Temporary Use Permit to allow for Food Trucks at the Amenity Center within the Arbor Mills PUD (ORD 2014-11, as amended) pursuant to Section 2.02.05.B.3 of the Land Development Code for a period of five years.]

THE ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT IS NOT IN THAT SITUATION.

ANYWAY. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU, DR. MCCORMICK. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES 7 TO NOTHING.

SO WE WILL MOVE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 1 ON THE AGENDA, AND I ASSUME WE HAVE MR. BARGAS HERE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE

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TO DECLARE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM?

>> SPEAKER: HELLO. THANK YOU.

I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING HERE ON TIME.

I WENT TO THE WRONG BUILDING. BUT EVAN WAS KIND ENOUGH TO COME

OVER AND COLLECT ME. >> MR. MATOVINA: WE NEED YOUR

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> SPEAKER: STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TONY TBARG AS 43 ATHENS DRIVE, ST. AUGUSTINE.

SO WHAT THIS TEMPORARY PERMIT IS FOR IS FOR THE USE OF FOOD TRUCK IN OUR HOA COMMUNITY. IT'S A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT THAT WE'RE ASKING BE RENEWED FROM THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS AT THE AMENITY CENTER WITHIN THE ARBOR MILLS PUD PURSUANT TO SECTION 2.02.05. B.3 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

ON THIS SLIDE WE HAVE AN AERIAL MAP THAT OUTLINES THE PROPERTY.

IN THE TOP LEFT YOU'LL NOTICE THERE IS THE AMENITY CENTER HERE, AND THIS IS THE PARKING LOT HERE WHERE THE FOOD TRUCKS WILL BE SITTING. THIS AMENITY CENTER DOES INCLUDE SEATING FOR ABOUT 100 PEOPLE UNDER COVER AND OUTSIDE AS WELL AS RESTROOMS FOR PUBLIC USE. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE FLU MAP OUTLINING THE -- I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT -- OUTLINING THE PROPERTY AGAIN AND THE ZONING MAP.

AND FOR THE SUMMARY REQUEST, THE ARBOR MILLS PUD ORDINANCE 20 FREIN 11 AS APPENDED DOES NOT INCLUDE THE USE OF MOBILE FOOD S A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR FOOD TRUCKS AT THE MILL CREEK AMENITY CENTER WITHIN THE ARBOR MILLS PUD.

THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IS REQUESTED FOR A MAXIMUM OF TWO FOOD TRUCKS FOR A TOTAL OF 12 EVENTS.

ONE EVENT IN MARCH, APRIL, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, AND TWO EVENTS PER MONTH IN MAY, JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST.

THE EVENTS WILL TAKE PLACE ON TUESDAY EVENINGS BETWEEN 5:00 AND 8:00 P.M. THE FOOD TRUCKS RANGE IN SIZE FROM 5 FEET BY 8 FEET TO 8 FEET BY 32 FEET.

THERE'S APPROXIMATELY A 35-FOOT BUFFER PROVIDED BETWEEN THE AMENITY CENTER PARKING LOT AND THE ADJACENT HOMES TO THE SOUTH.

THIS IS STRICTLY AN HOA EVENT THAT IS COMMUNICATED THROUGH PRIVATE ARBOR MILL AND MILL CREEK NOTIFICATION DISHANLS LIKE TOWN SQUARE PROVIDEDDATION PLATFORM FROM THE MPT COMPANY AND FACEBOOK. THE EVENTS ARE NOT PUBLICALLY NOTICED OR ADVERTISED. THE HOA ITSELF DOES NOT MAKE ANY MONEY FROM THESE EVENTS. THE EVENTS WILL BE HELD AS A WAY OF SOCIALIZING FOR THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS.

SHOULD THE PERMIT BE GRANTED, THE ASSOCIATION WILL ASK THAT ALL PARTICIPATING FOOD TRUCK VENDOR AND RESIDENTS PRACTICE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND WEAR MASKS.

IF NECESSARY. OKAY.

AND THEN HERE'S A MORE DETAILED MAP OF THE LOCATION FOR THE FOOD TRUCKS. AGAIN, WE ARE SHOWING THE BLUE AS THE AREA WHERE THERE ARE SEATING AREAS.

THERE, THERE AND THERE. WE HAVE RESTROOMS LOCATED IN THE AMENITY CENTER HERE. WE HAVE PARKING HERE.

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JUST THE SAME MAP, JUST HIGHLIGHTED IN A LARGER LEVEL, SO MAYBE YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

A PROPOSED PER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 2 WANT 02.05. A.3 A PROPOSED TEMPORARY USE SHALL BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT LEAST TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE EVENT. THERE SHALL BE ADEQUATE PARKING PROVIDED FOR THE TEMPORARY USE, NO MORE THAN 12 TEMPORARY USE PERMITSALLAL SHALL BE ISSUED FOR THE SAME SITE WITHIN A ONE-YEAR PERIOD EXCEPT THE LIMITATION IN APPLY AS STATED HEREIN.

ONLY ONE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT PER PARCEL MAY BE ISSUED FOR THE SAME PERIOD. ALL SITES FOR THE LOCATION OF THE TEMPORARY USUAL SHA PROVIDE RESTROOM FACILITES WITHIN A REASONABLE DISTANCE. THE USE OF SPECIAL EVENT SIGNS SHALL MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 7.05.00 OF THIS CODE. ALL MERCHANDISE, DISPLAY TENTS THAT WILL SHALL BE PLACED IN SUCH WAY AS TO NOT IMPEDE VEHICULAR OR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND SHALL NOT IMPEDE A FIRE LANE. WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER FROM DOTTIE RUSSELL WHO IS A RESIDENT IN OUR COMMUNITY SAYING THAT SHE SUPPORTS OUR FOOD TRUCKS. AND PRETTY MUCH THAT'S IT.

I DID INCLUDE A COUPLE MORE MAPS, LOCATION MAP AGAIN.

WE'RE LOCATED BETWEEN STATE ROAD 16 AND COUNTY ROAD 16A JUST WEST OF THE KING & BEAR COMMUNITY. AND A FLOOD ZONE MAP INDICATING THAT WE ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND

DOES NUB HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> MR. MATOVINA: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICNT? MR. PETER.

>> MR. PETER: I'M JUST CURIOUS.

THE ARBOR MILLS, MILL CREEK APPLIED AND WAS GIVEN TEMPORARY USE PERMIT IN 2021 SPRCHGHTS YES, SIR.

>> MR. PETER: IS THIS AN EXTENSION?

IS THIS A RENEWAL? >> SPEAKER: IT'S A RENEWAL BUT WE'RE HAVING FOR FIVE YEARS ON THIS.

IT JUST MADE MORE SENSE TO, SINCE WE'RE ALLOWED UP TO FIVE YEARS, TO ASK FOR IT. NEVER HURTS TO ASK.

>> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE ARE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR A

MOTION. >> MR. MATOVINA, EXCUSE THE DISPRUPTION SUSPECT CHRISTINE VAL YOUR SENIOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY. STAFF HAS MADE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL, AND PLANNER EVAN WALSNOVICH WILL PRESENT THE CHANGE TO YOU WITH THE OVERHEAD.

>> MR. MATOVINA: OKAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M EVAN WALSNOVICH, THE COUNTY PLANNER.

ATTACHED. A ATTACHED TO THIS OF COURSE PREDICTION IN TRANSFERRING THE INFORMATION OVER TO THE STAFF REPORT TO THE ACTUAL ORDER THAT WAS GOING TO BE ASSIGNED, I -- IT WAS LOST IN THAT TRANSFER, THE ONE EVENT PER MONTH IN MARCH, APRIL, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE THAT HAD TO BE MADE FOR THE FINE ORDER TO BE APPROVED. IT'S THE SAME EXACT THING AS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND OTHER FINDINGS OF FACT.

IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT OVER TO THE FINAL ORDER.

>> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS.

MS. PERKINS. >> MS. PERKINS: MOTION TO APPROVE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT 2022-01 ARBOR MILL AT MILL CREEK

[3. ZVAR 2022-01 Bartosch AFU. Request for a Zoning Variance to Section 2.02.04.B.16.d to allow an 840 square foot Accessory Family Unit (AFU) in lieu of the maximum 800 square feet and Section 2.02.04.B.16.f to allow for a mobile home as an AFU on less than two (2) acres.]

HOA BASED UPON 12 CONDITIONS. AND THREE FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: SO WE HAVE GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MSY MR. PETER. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES 7-0 SIR. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> MR. MATOVINA: YOUR WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 3, AND MR. BARTOSCH.

>> MR. MATOVINA, ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL AND REQUIRE EX PARTE DISCLOSURE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: SO DOES AYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE DISCLOSURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? WE HAVE NONE. THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. >> SPEAKER: MY NAME IS JOE BARTOSCH I RESIDE A 5120 CENTURY BOULEVARD.

AND I'M HERE -- >> METEOROLOGIST: MR. CHAIR.

>> SPEAKER: PARDON? >> DR. MCCORMICK: I DO AND I DON'T HAVE EX PARTE, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT.

I WENT OUT TO CENTURY AND I DROVE BOTH REEDS.

THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT YOU CAN GO.

YOU CAN GO LEFT. YOU CAN GO RIGHT.

I WENT BOTH. AND I CANNOT FIND -- I COULD NOT FIND THE ADDRESS 215 CENTURY BOULEVARD NO MATTER WHERE YOU LOOKED. THERE WERE MUCH LARGER NUMBERS THAN THAT, AND SO THERE'S A 215 THERE, I COULDN'T FIND IT.

SPRCHGHTS IT'S 2150. 2150.

>> SPEAKER: IT'S 2150. >> DR. MCCORMICK: IT'S WHAT?

>> SPEAKER: 2150. >> DR. MCCORMICK: THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. IT SAYS 215.

SO IT'S 2150. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. >> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT, MR. BARTOSCH. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

ARE YOU SURE IT'S 2150? >> SPEAKER: I'M PRETTY SURE, YEAH. ALL MY MAIL GOES TO THAT ONE.

YEP, IT'S ON HERE TOO. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR IF I MAY, MARIE COLEE WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THAT WAS A TYPO ON MY END ON THE FIRST PAGE, HOWEVER, THE REST OF THE STAFF REPORT SHOULD REFLECT THE CORRECT ADDRESS OF 2150, SO

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU, MARIE. WE'RE OFF TO A GREAT START, MR. BARTOSCH. LET'S KEEP IT ROLLING.

>> SPEAKER: THAT'S OKAY. I WASN'T VERY NERVOUS UNTIL NOW.

>> MR. MATOVINA: DON'T BE NERVOUS.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY. SHOULD I CONTINUE?

>> MR. MATOVINA: YES, SIR. >> SPEAKER: OKAY.

THIS IS THE REASON I'M DOING THIS.

MY 87-YEAR-OLD DAD IS GETTING FORCED OFF OF HIS PROPERTY, HIM AND HIS MOBILE HOME. AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IT, BUT THAT'S THE STORY. YOU GUYS HAVE GOT THAT ON YOUR BRIEFS AND EVERYTHING SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT SITUATION IS. HE GOT A LETTER STATING THAT HE HAS TO BE GONE BY APRIL 1ST, AND IF HE'S NOT OFF THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IT VACATED AND THE LANDLORD MAY SELL OR DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE, SO THE PRESSURE IS KIND OF ON HERE. SO WE WANT TO MOVE THAT MOBILE HOME OVER TO MY PROPERTY, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE, 2150, WHICH IS ENCIRCLED THERE. AND IT'S .02 ACRES SHORT OF THAT WHICH I THINK IS LIKE 700 SQUARE FEET.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'D LIKE TO MOVE HIM ON THERE IF I CAN.

AND THIS IS SHOWING THE FLU MAP WHERE IT'S RESIDENTIAL C.

AND THIS IS THE ZONING MAP WHERE I'M ZONED RMH, AND THAT'S THE SITE PLAN AND WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT -- I CAN'T SEE WHERE THAT POINT IS GOING -- IT'S THE YELLOW IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF THAT PLAT MAP. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU U. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME?

>> MR. MATOVINA: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BARTOSCH? WHAT WOULD YOUR DAD'S OTHER OPTION BE? SMNCHTS HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE. HE'S A FIXED INCOME, AND HE CAN'T AFFORD ANY OF THE OTHER LOT RENTS THAT ARE IN THE MOBILE HOME PARKS AROUND THERE BECAUSE HE OWNS THAT MOBILE HOME.

HE BOUGHT IT. AND HE CAN'T AFFORD ANY OTHER LOT RENT. IT'S DOUBLE WHAT HE'S PAYING AND EVEN MORE NOW SO HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GO BUY ANY PROPERTY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROPERTY PRICES ARE.

AND THIS IS OUR ONLY OPTION THAT WE HAVE. MATOVINA: DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? AND NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BARTOSCH? WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A

MOTION. >> MR. MAT TEEN VEEN, A SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION AGAIN. I DID WANT TO STATE ON THE

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RECORD THAT I CHATTED WITH REGROWTH MANAGEMENT FILES AND THIS WAS PROPER NOTICE FOR 2150 CENTURY BOULEVARD.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.

DR. MCCORMICK. [INAUDIBLE]

>> DR. MCCORMICK: MOI MOTION IS TO APPROVE ZONE VARIANCE 2022-01 BARTOSCH AFU BASED ON SEVEN CONDITIONS.

AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

[4. REZ 2021-39 County Road 210 Hotel. Request to rezone approximately 2.59 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) and Commercial Intensive (CI) to Commercial Intensive (CI) to provide for the same zoning district over the entirety of the site, and accommodate the construction of a hotel.]

>> MR. MATOVINA: DR. HILSENBECK, WERE YOU MAKING

A MOTION? >> MR. MILLER:

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I WAS GOING TO BUT I WILL SECOND.

>> MR. MATOVINA: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY GOT UP ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BED TODAY APPARENTLY ON THIS PANEL BECAUSE YOU PASSED

7-0. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU GUYS. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: MS. TAYLOR, LET'S KEEP IT GOING HERE.

YOU GET THE FLOOR FOR TWO IN A ROW.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE ON ITEM NUMBER 4?

>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON.

KAREN TAYLOR 70 SARAGOSSA STREET.

WITH EMPLOYEE IS ELISHA ARNOLD WP TEAM PHYLLIS ARNOLD IS HER MOM WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND SHE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY. SO I'LL KIND OF RUN THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. THIS IS A PRETTY SIMPLE THING, ACTUALLY. IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FROM A COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE WITH A SMALL PORTION OF OPEN RURAL TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, AND I DID THIS APPLICATION IN THIS MANNER SO THAT THE ONE SITE WOULD HAVE ONE ON THE OTHER HAND NUMBER RATHER THAN DUAL ORDINANCE NUMBERS.

SO THIS SHOWS YOU WHERE IT IS. IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 210 WEST OF 95, SOUTH OF THE NEW ASCENSION HOSPITAL THAT'S BEING BUILT, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT ENTIRE AREA.

THIS GETS YOU A LITTLE CLOSER AND KIND OF SHOWS YOU ITS RELATIONSHIP TO MOON BAY PARKWAY WHICH WE ALL KNEW AS C.E. WILSON ROAD SO IT COMES UP AS BOTH OF THOSE, AND IT'S OH THAT PARTICULAR CORNER. JUST A CLOSE-IN KIND OF JUST TO SHOW YOU THE OTHER COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES AND THIS AERIAL IS IF ONTARIO ONE SEE IT'S A LITTLE OLDER BUT YOU'LL SEE SOME OF MY PICTURES THAT MOST OF THAT AREA IS ALL FILLED IN NOW.

AND AGAIN, IT'S RELATED TO FUTURE CONNECTION OF MOON BAY PARKWAY. THIS IS ACTUALLY A DEMONSTRATION OF THE SITE SO IT'S 2.59 ACRES BUT THAT .58 ACRES GOT LEFT OUT OF THE REZONING, SO THAT'S WHAT REALLY I NEED TO REZONE.

MIXED USE AREA, LARGE MIXED USE AREA.

VERY LARGE AREA OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

THERE'S LOTS OF PUDS BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S GOT CI ON ONE SIDE AND CG ON THE OTHER AND IT HAS SUPPORTED THE PUD THAT'S BEHIND IT AS WELL. AND THIS JUST KIND OF DEMONSTRATES WHERE THE ZONING GOT LEFT OUT.

SURVEYS IN CASE THERE WERE QUESTIONS.

DID I INCLUDE A SITE PLAN. THIS IS JUST A DEMONSTRATIVE SITE PLAN THAT THEY HAD PUT TOGETHER FOR PROSPECTIVE SALES.

THIS WOULD BE 210 LOOKING TOWARDS THE EAST, AND THE SITE IS ON MY RIGHT, ON THE RIGHT. THIS IS 210 KIND OF STILL LOOKING KIND OF EAST PUT TO THE NORTHEAST YOU CAN START TO SEE THE ASCENSION DEVELOPMENT AND THEN AS WE GO YOU CAN SEE THAT IS COMING OUT OF THE GROUND QUITE SERIOUSLY NOW.

AND THAT LITTLE AREA BEHIND IT. SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ALONG 210 GOING TOWARDS THE INTERSTATE ABOUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE EXISTING TRUCK STOP THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AND ACROSS MOON BAY PARK OR C.E.

WILSONY ROAD, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO CALL CONSTITUENT OTHER CI SITE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THIS.

THESE WERE TOGETHER. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING ALONG MOON BAY PARK WAY.

THEY ARE IMPROVING THE ROAD AS YOU CAN TELL AND THERE'S ACTUALLIAL SOME CLEARING GOING ON.

WE'RE LOOKING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.

AND THEN ACTUALLY SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BEAN STARTED.

SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.

REALLY IT IS JUST ADDING THE .5. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE AND THE OTHER USES IN THE AREA.

AND WE FEEL, AGAIN, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND ARE ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM YOU.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> MR. MATOVINA: DR. HILSENBECK.

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YOU WERE LOOKING FOR YOU HAD SOME.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE, MS. TAYLOR.

THE PUD BEHIND, IS THAT THE D.R. HORTON TOWNHOME PUD?

>> SPEAKER: YES. >> MR. MATOVINA: AND WILL

THERE BE TOWNHOMES RIGHT THERE? >> SPEAKER: THERE'S A LOT OF WETLAND BETWEEN THE TWO THAT'S IN THAT PUD AS WELL, AND ACTUALLY MY CLIENT IS ALSO WORKING WITH THEM TO DEDICATE -- THEY ALREADY DEDICATED PROPERTY ALONG 210 TO THE COUNTY FOR 210.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING 20 FEET ADDITIONAL TO BE ABLE TO WIDE THEAN AND GET TURN LANES ON MOON BAY IN THE FUTURE.

THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW BUT THAT'S ALSO -- AND THAT WAS

WITH D.R. HORTON. >> MR. MATOVINA: AND THZ MS. ARNOLD RELATED TO JIM ARNOLD? I KNEW YOUR DAD. HE WAS A FINE MAN.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY AT THIS POINT UNLESS WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS.

THEN WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS PENCHES MOTION TO

[5. REZ 2021-40 Spanish Forest. Request to rezone approximately 31.75 acres of land from Residential, Single Family (RS-3) to Workforce Housing (WH) to allow for 106 residential dwelling units, consisting of 52 single family and 54 townhomes. The property is unaddressed and located south of Columbus Street and northeast of the Solomon Calhoun Community Center.]

RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING 202139 COUNTY ROAD 210 HOTEL BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PRESERVED IN THE

STAFF REPORT. >> MR. MATOVINA: GOTTA MOGS FOR APPROVAL FROM MS. PERKINS. SECOND BY MR. PETER.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS, MS. ARNOLD. KAREN, YOU'RE UP AGAIN.

DOES ANYBODY OF HAVE EX PARTE TO DECLARE ON ITEM NUMBER 5?

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >> SPEAKER: OKAY.

KAREN TAIR 77 SARAGOSSA STREET. ME IS ROB MATTHEWS WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I WAS EDS SUPPOSED TO HAVE TWO CLIENTS HERE BUT I DON'T SEE THEM, SO WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE SPANISH FOREST REZONING, AND THIS IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY 3 TO WORKFORCE HOUSING HOUSING. JUST TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL OVER-- LARGE SCALE OVERVIEW, THIS IS IN SORT OF THE WEST AUGUSTINE AREA. IT'S EAST OF DUVAL STREET WHICH WOULD BE COMING UP AND DOWN IN HERE.

THERE'S OSCEOLA ELEMENTARIAL SCHOOL AND THAT ROAD THERE, SOLOMON CALHOUN CENTER, THE LITTLE LEAGUE FEEDLE, AND FIELDD THERE'S ALSO A RAILROAD TRACK THAT RUNS ALONG HERE AND QUITE A LARGE EASEMENT THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY, ACTUALLY.

GETTING A LITTLE CLOSER, YOU CAN NOW SEE THAT EASEMENT QUITE WELL. AND ACTUALLY THIS CONSISTS OF A LARGER PIECE AS WELL AS A GROUP OF LOTS THAT WOULD BE COMING IN FROM 14TH AND 15TH STREET, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS RELATIONSHIP TO THE SOLOMON CALHOUN CENTER AS WELL.

THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.

IT'S ON COLUMBUS STREET. THAT COMES IN AND OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH UP IN HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG IN HERE, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A LARGE WELL STEP THAT GOES IN HERE.

WE DO HAVE ONE ON OUR SITE HERE AND WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE ONE ON OUR SITE HERE, SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE IN A LITTLE MORE ON THE SITE PLAN. THERE'S TWO UNOPENED ROADS, AND THOSE UNOPENED ROADS WOULD BE WOODLAWN STREET THAKS NORTH-SOUTH, A PORTION OF COLUMBUS STREET, AND THEN NASSAU STREET THAT WOULD COP ALONG IN HERE.

IT IS IN THE RESIDENTIAL D FUTURE LAND USE WHICH DOES ALLOW UP TO 13 UNITS PER ACRE, SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S SURROUNDED BY THAT. IT'S MIXED USE AND PUBLIC, AND THEN A LOT CLOSE TO THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

ZONING IS ALSO PRETTY TIPPAL CAL IN HERE -- TIPPALLAL CAL AND THE ONE I DID A LITTLE WHILE AGO WAS THE SAME ZONING THAT WE HAD FOR THE CANOPY OAKS ONE, THE RS-3. YOU DO HAVE A LARGE SECTION OF OR WHICH HAS THE FACILITIES AND THINGS IN IT AND JUST KIND OF A VARIETY. SO THEY'RE VERY COMMITTED TO DEVELOPING 106 RESIDENTIAL UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. ITS IT DOESN'T INCREASE THE DENSITY BUT IT DOES PROVIDE FOR THE PROPER ZONING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND THEY WILL DO THE 106, 43 OF THAT WOULD BE GUARANTEED TO BE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNDER THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.

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IT COULD END UP BEING MORE THAN THAT BUT THEIR PRICE RANGES WILL BE FROM 200S TO 300S.

RIGHT NOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSINT BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION.

SO THESE WORKFORCE HOUSING, THE SINGLE FAMILY HAVE TO HAVE A 35 MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, MAXIMUM COVERAGE AND CERTAIN SETBACKS.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 1300 TO 1800 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND TWO-STORY. THEY DO BUILD THESE IN JACKSONVILLE, SO THEY HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR IT.

AND THE SAME THING, THE TOWNHOMES.

THOSE HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TYPE OF THING BUT THEY HAVE A NARROWER, THEY'LL BE ABOUT 15 FEET WIDE AND THE LOTS THAT THEY'LL BE ON ARE 88 FEET DEEP, AS YOU'LL SEE.

THAL SCHOOL CONCURRENCY ISN'T AVAILABLE NOW.

IT SEEMS TO TAKE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SO BUSY WITH ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT THEY'RE DOING, SO I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT WE'RE ESTIMATING AROUND 78 STUDENTS.

THEY ACTUALLY GET CREDIT FOR THE 14, 16 LOTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT WERE EXISTING PLATTED LOTS, SO THAT BRINGS THAT NUMBER DOWN A LITTLE BIT BUT THEY WILL PROVIDE ANY PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE THAT'S NECESSARY. THIS IS JUST THE OVERALL SITE PLAN. IT'S 31.75 ACRES.

SHOWS YOU THE KIND OF WETLAND AREAS.

THERE'S A, AGAIN, THERE'S -- THERE.

THERE'S A LARGE WETLAND SYSTEM, AND THAT KIND OF IS NICE BECAUSE IT SEPARATES THE MUTT FAMILY FROM MULTI-FAMILY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY. THERE'S A LARGE WETLAND SYSTEM HERE. SO THIS IS THE RAILROAD TRACK SO YOU'VE GOT A REALLY NICE BUFFER TO THAT.

THIS IS THAT POWER LINE EASEMENT AND I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES TO KIND OF SHOW YOU. AND THEY WORKED WITH FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THAT AS OPEN GREEN FIELD AREA FOR THE BIKE PATH AND IS FOR RECREATION FACILITY.

THERE'S OTHER RECREATION FACILITIES ALSO THAT ARE LIKE LITTLE POCKET PARKS THROUGHOUT OR WHATEVER THAT THEY'RE PLANNING. IT'S SUPPORTED BY CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER THROUGH THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER WEEK YOU CAN SEE THESE 54 TOWNHOUSES AND THE 52 SINGLE FAMILY, AND I ALREADY GAVE YOU THE NUMBERS WITH THAT. AND KIND OF THE SEPARATION THAT YOU CAN RECOGNIZE. ONE THING THAT WILL BE DONE, AND I GUESS MAYBE I'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THE STREETS ALONG -- WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE. GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

AND I'M SORRY. THIS ISN'T SHOWING UP VERY WELL.

ANYWAY, THIS IS DUVAL STREET. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE.

THIS WOULD BE 15TH. THIS WOULD BE 14TH STREET.

AND THIS WOULD BE NORTH ST. JOHN STREET.

SO AS FOR TRANSPORTATION, THE TWO STREETS THAT ARE COUNTY ROADS ARE GOING TO BE IMPROVED TO COUNTY STANDARDS.

AND THOSE WOULD BE TWO-WAY. WE'VE GOT A TURNAROUND ON THE 14. 15 IS THE MAIN THAT SERVES THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. DIEWF STREET IS A SINGLE -- DUVAL STREET IS A SINGLE DIRECTION STREET, SO IT RUNS NORTH. YOU CAN GO NORTH BUT NOT SOUTH ON IT. 15TH STREET GOES BOTH WAYS.

NORTH ST. JOHN GOES ONLY SOUTH. SO AS PEOPLE DO COME OUT IF THEY WANT TO GO SOUTH, THEY DO HAVE TO COME ACROSS, COME ACROSS OVER HERE ON 16TH. THEN THEY CAN GET DOWN TO 207 OR IF THEY'RE COMING OUT AND GOING UP TOWARDS KING STREET CHEZ THEY JUST GO STRAIGHT OUT THAT AND VICE VERSA WHEN THEY COME BACK HOME. AND THEY MET WITH THE COUNTY STAFF TO DISCUSS THAT AND HOW THAT FUNCTIONS AND WILL WORK WE DO ONLY HAVE THE ONE ENTRANCE, AND I'LL GO BACK JUST TO SAY THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE AN EMERGENCY ENTRANCE THAT WOULD BE BACK IN HERE. IT'S QUITE A DISTANCE AND QUITE A LOT OF MANEUVERING AROUND FOR THAT TO BE AN ENTRANCE AND A PRETTY ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH, SO THAT WILL BE EMERGENCY EXIT, BUT THE 106 UNITS WILL ALL UTILIZE THIS ONE FOR THE DAILY TRAFFIC. JUST SOME PICTURES.

WE'VE GOT SOME DRONE AERIALS HERE.

JUST TO KIND OF COMING FROM -- THIS IS DUVAL STREET, SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

YOU CAN SEE THESE TWO WETLAND SYSTEMS. THIS IS THE SOLOMONAL CALHOUN CENTER AND BALL FIELDS RELATED TO THAT. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE ONE THAT STARTS TO SHOW YOU WHERE THAT EASEMENT IS THAT GOES THROUGH THAT'S GOING -- THAT'S RUNG NORTH-SOUTH, THE FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT EASEMENT. AS YOU KIND OF GET ACROSS TO THE

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OTHER, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RAILROAD IS HERE.

AND THE EAST WANT. SO ALL OF THAT ACTIVITY, AS I SAID, THE STORM WATER, THE MINOR RECREATION AND GOES THE WETLAND PRESERVATION IS ALL THAT DISTANCE, SO THAT'LL BE BUFFERING THEM FROM THE RAILROAD.

AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN HERE THE TWO WETLAND SYSTEMS THAT THEY HAVE TO -- THE ONE THEY'LL GO THROUGH WITH 15TH STREET, THE OTHER ONE THEY'RE WORKING AROUND, SO IT'S AN INTERNAL BUFFER. JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE RELATIONSHIPS. THIS IS FROM THE NORTH LOOKING BACK ON IT, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN REALLY SEE THAT LITTLAL CENTRAL WETLAND SYSTEM. SHOWS YOU THE RAILROAD AGAIN.

AND STARTS TO SHOW YOU THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH WHICH IS COLUMBUS STREET WOULD BE ALONG HERE, SO THAT'S THAT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS ONE HOUSE NORTH OF THEM ON THAT NORTH SIDE THAT'S CLOSE BY.

THIS WOULD BE DUVAL STREET JUSTL CALHOUN IS GOING NORTH, AND THAT'S A COUNTY RETENTION AREA THAT'S THERE FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY DID TO DIEWF BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S SIDEWALKS ALONG THERE AS WELL SO THAT'S IMPROVED.

THIS IS JUST A SIGN STHOAG THE REZONING -- SHOWING THE REZONING AND THIS IS THE SITE SO THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN SEE FROM GROUND LEVEL EXCEPT THAT THIS IS AGAIN LOOKING NORTH ON DUVAL STREET AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALKS THERE AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS FOR THE 106, WHICH IS THE 52 SINGLE FAMILY AND THE 54 TOWNHOMES, AUTOMATIC DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING. THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE SEES POINT BUT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO MIGHT HAVE FORWARD.

IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE APPLICATION BUT WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY'VE GOT PLANNED.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S A PLAN FOR INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP THEY WILL PROVIDE FOR THE 40%. AND IT'S IN JUST A REALLY GOOD AREA. IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND IT'S KIND OF A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT JUST HASN'T DEFEND OVER DER TIME.

THE ADJACENT ZONING IS ALL PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE SUBDIVISIONS.

YOU'VE GOT SIMILAR SIZES TO THIS.

THE USE IS GOING TO REMAIN RESIDENTIAL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CHANGING FROM RS 3 TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING.

BUT THIS DOES ADD THAT. SO WITH ALL THOSE, THE DENSITY COMES UP TO ABOUT 4.32 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS WAY BELOW THE 13 THAT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE EVEN WITHOUT THE DENSITY BONUS, AND SOME OF THAT YOU CAN SEE BY THE THE SITE CON RESTAURANTS THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN. SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN AND CERTAINLY WE'LL WILL MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL ON THIS ONE TODAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

THAT YOU HAVE. >> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> THANK YOU, MR. CANARY.

KAREN, IF I MAY, CAN YOU BRING UP THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE DEVELOPMENT N. AND THE ADJACENT STREETS.

AND YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT WHERE COPPER ROAD IS WHERE IT SAYS ALTERNATE EMERGENCY EXIT WITH GATE UP AT THE NORTH END THERE.

SO I REALIZE, AND TO YOUR POINT, THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT'S PROVIDED TO YOU JUST AS A COURTESY KIND OF THING.

IT'S A REZONING. BUT WE DO ENCOURAGE INTERCONNECTIVITY. I TOLD YOU BEFORE IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING WITH RELATED TO PUDS THEY WERE REQUIRED WHEN FEASIBLE, BUT THIS IS NOT A PUD BUT WE ALSO ENCOURAGE INTERCONNECTIVITY. SO, KAREN, GIVEN THAT THAT'S A VERY SHORT DISTANCE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT STAFF HAS HAD A CHANCE TO ANALYZE THIS ON WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE BUT JUST ON THE SURFACE WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO CONNECT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY IF YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF AS WE GO ALONG UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ANSWER AS TO WHY WE SHOULDN'T

CONNECT THERE. >> I THINK FROM A STANDPOINT OF -- I GUESS WE WERE TRYING TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM ALL THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH IT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY QUIET -- THEY'VE BEEN THERE A WRONG TIME, BUT CERTAINLY FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLES.

WE HAD PROVIDED FOR AN ADDITIONAL TURNAROUND HERE INSTEAD OF IMPROVING THAT. SO ACTUALLY COLUMBUS STREET ENDS RIGHT HERE, SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S IMPROVED TO.

I'LL JUST KIND OF -- THIS IS A GOOD AERIAL TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THAT. SO IT'S NOT IMPROVED COMING ACROSS THERE AT THIS POINT AND THEY WERE NOT INTENDING TO

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IMPROVE IT. >> OKAY.

SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT AND THEREIN LIES, WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S COMMUNITIES THAT EXIST BUT WE ALSO ENCOURAGE CONNECTIVITY, SO I'LL JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> MR. MATOVINA:

DR. HILSENBECK. >> DR. HILSENBECK: KAREN, I RALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL CONSERVING THOSE WETLANDS FOR THE MOST PART ON THE SITE, BUT DO YOU KNOW OF ANY SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITIES UNDER THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE?

>> SPEAKER: NO. >> DR. HILSENBECK: IT LOOKS TO ME AND I'M VERY REMISS FOR NOTE DRIVING BY THIS SITE BECAUSE I WAS VERY CLOSE TO IT THE OTHER DAY, BUT IT LOOKS TO ME FROM YOUR PHOTOS THAT THERE'S SOME SCRUB NATURAL COMMUNITY ON THAT

PROPERTY. >> SPEAKER: THERE MAY BE IF THEY ENCOUNTER THAT, THEY CERTAINLY WILL -- HISTORIAN IT LOOKS LIKE IT. YOU HAVE SAND PINES SHOWING IN THOSE PHOTOS THERE. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE SIX, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE,AL NATURAL -- SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITY SO YOU'VE GOT TO PRESERVE 10% OF THAT.

SO I HOPE YOUR SITE OF PLAN CAN WORK AROUND THAT.

>> SPEAKER: I'M SURE THEY WILL.

I'M SURE THEY WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY -- AND LET ME NOTE, JUST A NOTICE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT I DIDN'T MENTION, WAL ALSO WORKED WITH THE FIRE FOLKS, SO ACTUALLY YOU KIND OF SEE THESE, THIS LITTLE -- THAT'S ACTUALLY -- THAT'LL BE GRASSED BUT THAT'LL HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO HOLD FIRE TRUCKS SO THAT THEY CAN GO AROUND THOSE BUILDINGS TYPE OF THING. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO, BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT LOTS OF AREA UPLAND BUFFER AND CERTAIN THINGS

TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT 10%. >> DR. HILSENBECK: GREAT.

I'M SURE THE COUNTY WILL LOOK INTO THAT.

>> SPEAKER: WHEN THEY GET TO CONSTRUCTION PLAN, ABSOLUTELY.

>> MR. MATOVINA: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

MR. PETER. >> MR. PETER: KAREN, ABOUT COLUMBUS STREET, YOU SAID IT'S UNIMPROVED.

I DIDN'T GO OUT THERE. IS IT CURRENTLY A DIRT ROAD?

>> SPEAKER: NO. THE ONLY PART OF IT, THE PART OF IT THAT'S IMPROVED WOULD BE WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE WHITE.

SO IT'S JUST THE PORTION THAT COMES FROM HERE TO HERE.

SO IT'S NOT IMPROVED OVER TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

AND THE POWER LINE EASEMENT, THIS IS WOODLAWN, BUT THE POWER LINE EASEMENT ACTUALLY GOES ACROSS IT.

IT'S NEXT TO IT IN SOME PLACES BUT IT CROSSES IN IT OTHERS.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE KIND OF FIGURED AGAIN THAT AREA, THERE'E IT THAT WELL ON THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT UP IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. SO THE ACCESS -- WE DID MEET WITH YOUR TRANSPORTATION FOLKS. THEY WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT INTERCONNECTIVITY OBVIOUSLY, BUT BECAUSE -- BUT BECAUSE IT'S ON 106 UNITS, IT'S NOT AS MUCH UNITS.

I CAN SEE MAYBE A TRAIL OR SOMETHING THROUGH THERE THAT KIDS CAN RIDE BIKES BACK AND FORTH, BUT AS FOR SPECIFIC ACCESS, IT'S A LONG WAY THROUGH THERE TO BE ABLE TO EVEN GET OUT

OF THERE. >> MR. MATOVINA: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? >> MS. PERKINS: WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD. CHRISTINA DA BELL.

>> AND HI THERE. I'M CHRISTINA.

I GO BY ALLON A I'M AT 912 ALEXANDER 37 I SIT JUST ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY BEING BUILT. SO I JUST CAME IN TODAY BECAUSE I RECEIVED A LETTER IN THE MAIL. I HAD SOME CONCERNS WEEK SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS.

THE FIRST CONCERN IS ACTUALLY THIS ISSUE OF CONNECTIVITY THAT HE JUST BROUGHT UP AND SHE ALSO DISCUSSED.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THAT CESKT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE SITUATION IS OBVIOUSLY A REALLY IMPORTANT THING. I WAS A NURSE FOR A LONG TIME AND YOU NEED TO MOVE IN AND OUT OF PLACES VERY, VERY QUICKLY.

HOWEVER, THE COOPER STREET AND ALEXANDER STREET BLOCK, IT DOESN'T HOLD THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO HANDLE A DIRECT CONNECTIVITY.

THE ROADS THEMSELVES ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH.

THE SETBACKS OFTEN WOULD ACTUALLY MOVE THROUGH DITCHES WHERE THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES ALREADY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA. I'M LIKE A BACK WAY KIND OF GIRL, SO I TEND TO TAKE BACK WAYS IN AND OUT OF THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER -- IT'S EASIER, RIGHT? AND WITH THAT MANY HOUSES, IF THERE WAS TWO CARS PER HOUSE, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF POTENTIAL TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR VERY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THERE IS A LOT OF CHILDREN, SMALL CHILDREN, THREE YEARS OLD, ONE YEARS OLD, BABIES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHO

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LOVE TO PLAY IN THE STREET AS KIDS DO.

AND SO ALREADY ON OUR STREETS PEOPLE DRIVE FAR TOO FAST, AND SO IF YOU INCREASE THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, IT WOULD JUST -- IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE SAFE FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

AND AS I'VE TALKED TO MY COMMUNITY, THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN THAT MOST PEOPLE ACTUALLY SHARE, IS THAT EMERGENCY EXIT. THEY WANT IT TO STAY EMERGENCY.

THEY DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE ALL LIVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S QUIET. WE LIVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S SMALL. WE LIVE THERE BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AT THE HAWKS FLY AND HEAR THE WIND THROUGH THE TREES.

WE DON'T LIVE THERE BECAUSE WE WANT TRAFFIC, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. SO THAT WAS OUR MAIN CONCERN AS A WHOLE. PERSONALLY I HAVE CONCERNS OVER WETLANDS. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE'S PLANS ON PRESERVING SOME OF THAT BECAUSE THE ENTIRE AREA IS EXTREMELY WET. LIKE WHEN IT RAINS, IT RAINED YESTERDAY, MY YARD HAS 4 INCHES OF WATER WHEN I LEFT TODAY.

SO WHATEVER WATER NEEDS TO GET MOVED, THERE'S GOT TO BE EXTREME CAUTION FOR THAT SURROUNDING AREA.

LIKE ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE IS ALL WETLAND.

MY YARD FLOODS. THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

IT MAY NOT FLOOD IN A HOUSE, BUT THE YARDS ARE QUET.

THERE'S 3 INCHES OF WATER. OUR DITCHES FILL UP.

THERE'S NOT MOVEMENT THROUGH THOSE DITCHES.

AND SO THE WATER ISSUE IS WEEK EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN A GOOD FLOOD ZONE, THERE IS A WATER ISSUE IN THAT AREA IN THE SENSE WHERE IS IT ALL GOING TO GO AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE IT TO PROTECT THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND ALSO TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT WILL POTENTIALLY BE LIVING IN THESE HOMES AS WELL. THANK YOU.

SO I GUESS THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

BUT THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.

I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. >> MS. PERKINS: THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT. PENCHT THERE ARE NO MORE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS.

>> MS. PERKINS: MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2021-40 SPANISH FOREST BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: WE'VE GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY ZACH. MILLER.

DR. HILSENBECK. >> DR. HILSENBECK: ARE WE

READY FOR SOME DISCUSSION? >> MR. MATOVINA: YES.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: OKAY. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THIS PROJECT, I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE AGAINST IT, BUT THIS IS A GOOD SPOT TO PUT WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND I THINK Y'ALL WERE SMART TO HAVE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AS A COMPONENT OF THIS. BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO VOTE AGAINST A PROJECT THAT I NEGLECTED TO DRIVE BY AND LOOK AT IT, SO I'LL PROBE VOTE IN

FAVOR OF IT. >> MR. MATOVINA:

[6. PUD21-09 Bacon Storage (Brinkoff Rd). Request to rezone approximately 4.9 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for up to 16,000 square feet of neighborhood commercial uses and a RV/Boat Storage facility. The Planning and Zoning Agency previously recommended denial with a vote of 6-0.The Board of County Commissioners remanded this item back to the Planning and Zoning Agency and required the Applicant to hold a community meeting on the project.]

DR. MCCORMICK, YOU ALL AGREED TO WAIVE THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY ON THIS, CORRECT? I'M JUST KIDDING.

THAT WAS A JOKE. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL 7 TO NOTHING. NOW WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6, MS. FLEET. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE

COMMUNICATION TO BE DECLARED? >> DR. HILSENBECK: YES.

I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH JANICE FLEET YESTERDAY? YESTERDAY. SHE HAD CALLED ME, I THINK, MONDAY, BUT WE SPOKE YESTERDAY. AND I EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS

ABOUT THE ITEM. >> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT.

MR. PETER. >> MR. PETER: I ALSO HAD A

CONVERSATION WITH MS. FLEET. >> MR. MATOVINA: MS. PERKINS.

>> MS. PERKINS: I SPOKE WITH MS. FLEET ON WEDNESDAY AND WE

DISCUSSED THE CHANGES. >> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT.

MR. MILLER? >> MR. MILLER: I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. FLEET THIS PAST MONDAY.

WE DISCUSSED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND SOME OF THE CHANGES

MADE. >> MR. MATOVINA: AND

MR. PIERRE. >> MR. PIERRE: YES, I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. FLEET ON MONDAY, DISCUSSED THE ISSUE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: AND I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. FLEET ON MONDAY, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY MEETING MAINLY AND WHAT CHANGES WERE AND WEREN'T MADE. MS. FLEET, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. THIS IS COMING BACK TO YOU FROM -- IT WAS BACK IN YOUR DECEMBER MEETING THAT IT CAME BEFORE YOU AND THEN IT WENT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN JANUARY AND THEYED REQUEST WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND COME BACK TO YOU -- COME BACK TO THEM IN APRIL. SO WE HAD OUR COMMUNITY MEETING.

I'LL GO OVER A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET WITH THE COMMUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM SINCE PROBABLY SUNS WE FOUND OUT THE DAY OF YOUR

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DECEMBER MEETING THAT WE HAD OPPOSITION BECAUSE NOBODY HAD REACHED OUT TO US BEFORE, AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE CONCERNS, AND I'M SURE -- I KNOW THERE'S SOME COMMUNITY OPPOSITION SO I'M NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE I DON'T KNOW THEY ARE HERE.

MR. JIM BACON IS THE OWNER AND HE'S THE APPLICANT OF THE PROPERTY. HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. I'M HERE, THE AGENT, AND WE'RE THE TEAM OF THE PLANNING, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE IEM IS I HAVE ENGINEERING AND ENGINEERING WHO DO THE IS I HAVE ENGINEERING AND IT WILL DO THE ENGINEERING AND ALSO APPLY FOR THE WATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT FOR STORM WATER.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BI, EVERYTHING SOUTH OF BRINGOFF ROAD IS RSC, RESIDENTIAL C WHICH ALLOWS FOR, IN POLICY A.111.1 IT SAYS IN DENSIT ZONES C AND D DESIGNATIONS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL USES APPROVED PURSUANT TO PUD. SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME BEFORE YOU WITH THIS PROJECT. WE DO NOT NEED A LAND USE AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT'S APPROVED. IF YOU JUST STUCK WITH THE RSC YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED 30 UNITS PER ACRE ON THE SITE AND YOU COULD EASILY GET THAT, PROBABLY MORE.

THIS AREA, THE BASICALLY EVERYTHING AROUND IT WAS A PUD.

THIS PARCEL, THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, NOT MR. BACON FOR SOME REASON, DIDN'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT, AND AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THE COUNTY DID NOT HAVE A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED, IT WAS OVER OR ZONING. SO THAT WAS OR ZONING FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS. THERE WERE A COUPLE MOBILE HOMES ON THE SITE, RESEARCHING THE DEEDS.

AT ONE POINT THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE ON THE SITE.

BUT IT'S A 4.9-ACRE PARCEL THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF BRINGOFF ROAD, AND LIKE I SAID IT'S SURROUNDED BY PRIMARILY THE TREE EX PUD AND PARK AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE DRAWING THERE. AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO TO PUD SINCE IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THAT PUD, AND HEIR WE'RE NOT PART OF OF THE PD EXCHT. IT IS PART OF THE PUD.

THIS IS NOT PART OF THAT PUD. WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE OUR OWN PUD FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY, IN TRYING TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMESH AREA, WE FEEL IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA, THE OR ZONING THAT IS CURRENT, IT ALLOWS SOME THINGS THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT -- WE DON'T FEEL ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA AND THAT YOU CAN HAVE MORE SENTENCE USES IN THE OR ZONING. YOU CAN HAVE DUDE RANCHES AND THING LIKE THAT, SHOOTING RANGES.

SOME OF THEY NEED SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.

ANYWAY, BUT BASICALLY THE WAY WE DID IT WAS TRY TO GET ALONG BRINGOFF ROAD YOU WOULD HAVE A BUFFER.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS UP IN THE FRONT WHICH WOULD BE PHASE 2. AND IT IS WHERE YOU CAN -- WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST PUD OR LAST REZONING YOU TALKED ABOUT CEFGHT THIS WOULD ALLOW CECTD, BRINCHOFF TO THE SIDEWALKS.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE TREATY OAKS COULD WALK TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. WE LIMITED THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT COULD BE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW LIKE A SMALL DOCTOR'S OFFICE, PIZZA SHOP, THINGS LIKE THAT, RESTAURANTS. NOTHING OF ANY INTENSITY.

SO PEOPLE COULD WALK OR DRIVE ON DRIVE OR TAKE THE GOLF CART WHEN THAT IS BUILT, AND THAT WAS THE INTENT.

THEN IN THE BACK AREA WOULD BE THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE AND NON-CLIMATIZED BIGDZ. SO THERE'S BUFFERS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, AND WE FEEL IT WOULD BE -- HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS I SAID, THERE'S TWO PHASES PROPOSED. WITH THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE AND THE NO ONE CLIMATIZED STORAGE PHASE 1.

THERE'S AN EXISTING MOBILE HOME ON THE SITE WHICH WOULD REMAIN AND TAKEN 16,000 MAXIMUM NEIGHBORLY COMMERCIAL WOULD BE PHASE 2 WITH THE PUD LIMITS THAT ARE IN THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION FOR THE USES. THERE'S PROPOSED TWO ACCESS POINTS THAT WILL MEET ALL OF OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY REQUIREMENTS.

AS YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE GET TO YOU WE GO THROUGH A LOT OF REVIEW WITH THE COUNTY WITH THEIR COMMENTS AND THERE WILL BE TWO ACCESS POINTS. ONE WOULD BE A NEW ACCESS POINT FOR THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE. AND THEN PHASE 2 THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WOULD MEET THE COMMERCIAL ACCESS TO

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THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH. THE ENVIRONMENTAL A IMPACTS, AND I THINK I SAID THIS LAST TIME TO YOU ALL BUT DR. HILSENBECK WASN'T HERE, THIS PLOT HAS NO WETLANDS.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PARCELS, 5-ACRE PARCELS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY.

BUT -- SO THERE ARE NO -- WE ARE PROVIDING BACK -- BUT THERE ARE NOT ANY WETLAND ON THE PROPERTY PER SE, AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT, AS I SAID THE SITE WILL HAVE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT APPROVAL FOR ANY STORM WATER MANAGEMENT WILL BE PROVIDED. IT'S CONSISTENT, AS I SAID EARLIER, WITH THE PUD, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OF YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE FEEL IT'S PROVIDING NEEDED SERVICES IN THE AREA THAT ARE TO PROVIDE EXISTING STORAGE FACILITIES ARE NEAR CAPACITY.

I'M GOING TO GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN A MINUTE.

THE EXISTING BACON STORAGE AT WILDWOOD ROAD, IT CAN'T BE EXPANDED. IT IS PROPERTY BEHIND IT IS WETLANDS ON MOWL TREE CREEK. THE IF HE COULD EXPAND IT HE WOULD BUT HE CAN'T, AND HE SOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AS HE SAW HOW QUICKLY HIS EXISTING FACILITY GOT -- WAS FILLED UP, AND HE SAID, OH, MY GOD, THERE'S A BIGGER NEED AND I CAN'T EXPAND HERE. WE FEEL THE BUFFERS WILL ALLOW COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

COMMERCIAL ON BRINKOFF ROAD AND THIS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERIAL WOULD BE ON BRINKEROFF ROAD WHICH IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR AND THEN THE LESS INTENSE STORAGE. USES, THE PATH, LIGHTING WILL BE DESIGNED NOT TO SPILL OFF INTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

BASICALLY THERE'S ONE 75 IN FROM THE ROADWAY, THERE IS ONE LIGHT THAT HE USES AT HIS ENTRANCE SO THAT IF PEOPLE COME IN AFTER HOURS, THEY CAN SEE THE CALL BOX TO COME INTO BECAUSE IT'S A SECURED FACILITY, AND THE OTHER LIGHTING IS INTERNAL BECAUSE IT'S -- AND IT'S BASICALLY MOTION DETECTORS AS PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH THE FACILITY SO THERE'S NO LIELGT LIGHTING THAT'S GOING TO SPILL OFF ONTO NEIGHBORS' PROPERTY.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU A BUILDING THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE THE TYPE OF BUILDING THAT WILL BE IN THE PATH.

I'M GOING TO HAVE A PICTURE OF IT.

SO WE FEEL THE DEVELOPMENT NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WHEN YOU DRIVE OFF BRINKOFF ROAD WHICH IS BASICALLY A FENCE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEY INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT WHEN YOU GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENT OF THE COUNTY WHEN THAT'S DEFT IN THE FUDD FUTURE.

AND THE ENTRANCES ARE FAR, BETWEEN 600 TO 1,000 FEET.

THE TWO ENTRANCES TO THE TREATY OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AS I MENTIONED, SOME OF THE USES IN THE CURRENT OR ARE A LOT MORE INTENSIVE THAN WHAT WOULD BE IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT LOWER THE PROPERTY VALUES. SINCE MR. BACON HAS BEEN IN HIS FACILITY ON WILDWOOD DRIVE, THE PROPERTY NEXT, THE CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT, TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE INCREASED. ONE OF THE THINGS IN THAT -- IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AT OUR LAST MEETING WHEN WE WERE BEFORE YOU, THERE I WAS MAJOR MODIFICATION 2021 FOR STORAGE FACILITY NEXT TO HIS.

THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED. IT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN.

AND I THINK YOUR COUNTY STAFF WROTE THAT IN OUR ELECTOR.

AS I AS I MENTIONED BRINKOFF RS BEEN UPGRIED MAJOR COLLECTOR AND THIS WOULD HAVE LESS IMPACT ON THE ROADWAY THAN OTHERS AND IT WOULD ALLOW FOR CONNECTIVITY. SO THE NEED FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE, I KNOW THIS COMES BEFORE YOU A LOT, IS BASICALLY MOST OF THE PUDS, HOAS ARE DEED RESTRICTED.

THEY DO NOT LIKE RVS, BOATS AND LIMITED ACCESSORY USES SO YOU'VE GOT A DOUBLE WHAMMY. NOT ONLY CAN YOU NOT HAVE YOUR BOAT OR RV BUT THEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED ANOTHER FACILITY ON YOUR PROPERTY OR YOU DO NOT HAVE ROOM ON YOUR PROPERTY WHERE YOU MAYBE COULD HAVE A LITTLE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY MEET THIS NEED.

PEOPLE THAT HAVE -- WE LIVE IN FLORIDA, BEAUTIFUL WEATHER, EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A BOAT OR RV THAT THEY CAN GO, AND PEOPLE LIKE TO BE WITHIN TWO TO FIVE MILES OF THEIR FACILITY WHERE THEY STORE THEIR BOAT BECAUSE YOU DO NOT WANT TO DRIVE 15 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO GET YOUR BOAT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO DRIVE IT TO WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN.

THAT'S WHY THIS AREA IS DEVELOPING AND THERE'S A NEW NEED FOR IN. AS A SAID, MR. BACON'S STORAGE, THE BACON STOARNLGT A 1700 WILDWOOD ROAD WHICH IS NEAR THERE, IT OPENED IN JULY OF 2020.

IT'S AT CAPACITY. IT'S GOT A WAITING LIST.

THERE ARE BOATS AND RVSAL THAT WILL RELOCATE.

HE'S ALREADY GOT ABOUT 60 BOATS OR RV THAT WOULD RELOCATE FROM

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BRINKOFF ROAD TO BACKON STORAGE. HE'S NOT OTHER ON THINKS SITE PLANE FROM THE MAJOR MODIFICATION THAT WE WET THROUGH 4 A COMMERCIAL BUILDING BUT HE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE IS PARKING BOATS AND RVS THAT HE'S ALLOWED TO DO IN THE AREA THAT EVENTUALLY WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S LIMITING HIM AND THAT'S WHY HE SEIZE REALLY THE NEED FOR THAT -- SEES THE NEED FOR THAT.

AS I MENTIONED WITH THE PLOT IS ON A MOULTRIE CREEK SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT HE COULD EXPAND IT. OBVIOUSLY IF HE COULD, HE WOULD.

SO WE HAD THIS COMMUNITY MEETING.

PRIOR TO HAVING IT, I TALKED TO COUNTY STAFF ABOUT WHERE WE CAN HAVE IT. I'VE GOT EMAILS THAT I HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH THE COUNTY STAFF ABOUTER WHEN TO HAVE IT.

I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER WALLEDON TO HELP TO GET -- BECAUSE HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING TO HAVE IT TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE IT, WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE IT, AND TO GET SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAD -- INFORMATION, THEIR INFORMATION. THE PEOPLE THAT TALKED AT THE -E BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING AND EMAIL AND ET CETERA, AND WE CAME UP WITH A LOCATION THAT WE THOUGHT WAS CONVENIENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS EASY TO ACCESS, AND THAT WAS MRN WILDWOOD DRIVE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS WAS ALSO DURING COVID WHEN OMICRON WAS KIND OF GOING HIGH, WHEN THE NUMBERS WERE CLIMBING, AND SO WE FELT AN OUTDOOR VENUE WOULD WORK, SO WE ENDED UP -- WE DECIDED -- HE RENTED -- WE DID IT ON AN OPEN SPACE AT A STORAGE FACILITY.

WE HAD A TENT FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER, SET UP TABLE.

WE TRIED TO MAKE IT'S A COVID FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE.

WE WENT BEYOND WHAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO BECAUSE WE FOLLOWED WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ANY KIND OF ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING. WE PUT A NOTICE IN THE PAPER.

WE SENT NOTICES TO PEOPLE WITHIN 300 FEET.

IT WAS ON THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY NBR LISTING OF ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. AND I COMMUNICATED WITH COUNTY STAFF ON THAT. AND SO -- AND WHEN WE GOT STARTED GETTING SOME NEIGHBORS COMPLAINING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIME AND PLACE, I REACHED OUT AGAIN TO COUNTY STAFF AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, IS IT ALL RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE WANT TOAF A MEETING THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE SENSE.

MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO WORK WITH PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. AND WE HAD THE MEETING.

LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THE -- THEY WERE COMPLAINING.

THERE WAS ANOTHER MEETING. THERE WAS VARIOUS DIFFERENT REASONS. ANYWAYS BE WE WENT AHEAD WITH THE MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS ADVERTISED AND BECAUSE WE ALSO WERE TOLD BY COUNTY STAFF THAT, YES, WE WERE FINE WHERE WE WERE HAVING IT, WHEN WE WERE HAVING IT, TIME, ET CETERA, AND IT WAS ATTENDED BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

HE WAS THERE AND WE APPRECIATE HIS ATTENDS AS WELL AS JACOB SMITH OF THE STNL STAFF AND WE APPRECIATE THAT HE WAS THERE DIDN'T ST. JOHNS COUNTY STAFF. WE DID HAVE -- WE HAD ABOUT THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE, NOT AS MANY AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED, AND WE PRESENTED THE PROJECT, ANSWERED QUESTIONS.

I PROVIDED COPIES OF THE SITE PLAN TO A PERSON THAT WAS THERE.

I EMAILED IT TO ANOTHER PERSON.

I EMAILED THE APPLICATION. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WHAT'S IN THE APPLICATION, WHAT'S IN THE SITE PLAN, WHAT'S IN THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.

ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, IT'S ACTUALLY RECORDED, AND IT IS. WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

AND EVEN AT THE MEETING COMMISSIONER WALDRON WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK ALSO HE MENTIONED AT THE MEETING BUT AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING THAT THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THE PUD PROCESS IS, AND SO LIKE I SAID I TRIED TO EXPLAIN IT THE BEST I CAN.

I CAME BACK TO MY OFFICE THAT EVENING AND THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT SAID THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAD DECIDED TO TBOICT THE MEETING D. BOYCOTT THE MEETING, WHICH IS LIKE -- I CAN'T FORCE TO YOU COME TO ANYTHING, BUT I CAN DO THE BEST I CAN. MY EMAIL, I PROVIDED IT TO PEOPLE AND EVERYTHING I SENT OUT SO IF THEY WANTED TO REACH OUT TO ME SEPARATELY I WOULD DO IT AND I WOULD TALK TO THEM.

I ACTUALLY DID TALK TO SOMEBODY TODAY.

I THINK HE'S THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE TREATY OAKS HOA.

SO AS I SAID, THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY'RE NOT -- THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS LIMITED BY THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION AND PUD AND SITE PLAN. THEY HAVE CONCERN WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEIGHBORS WOULD WANT TAKEN OUT, THIS IS PHASE 2.

THAT'S NOT WHAT MR. BACON'S NUMBER ONE FOCUS IS, BUT WE NEED FOE KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE SITE PLAN REALLY FROM WHEN YOU SAW IT BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO CHANGE SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WANT. IF THEY WOULD BE SPECIFIC, WE'LL WORK OUT DETAILS. THAT WAS THE WHOLE INTENT OF THE LAST THREE MONTHS WAS TRYING TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH THEM BUT YOU CAN'T WORK OUT -- NEGOTIATE WITH SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T WANT

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TO COME TALK TO YOU. THE TRAFFIC IS ANOTHER ISSUE.

AND LOOKING AT 30 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD GENERATE USING I.T., THE TRIP GENERATION RATES IS ABOUT 30 TRIPS, AND RV BOAT STORAGE, IN REVIEWING DATA, I.T. DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TRIP GENERATION RATE BUT I RESEARCHED TO FIND VARIOUS OTHER PUDS OR OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, HOW THEY CAME UP WITH TRIP GENERATION RATES, AND IT'S BASICALLY FOUR TRIPS DURING THE WEEK DAY FOR AN RV BOAT STORAGE AND ABOUT 16 TRIPS ON A WEEKEND AND I CAN I HAVE YOU THE SOURCES THAT OF THAT CAME UP.

ANYWAY, THAT'S -- OBVIOUSLY THE TRIP GENERATION IS LESS FROM RV BOAT STORAGE THAN IT WOULD BE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY HOME. BUFFERS, THE -- THIS IS WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE TODAY. IT'S PRETTY MUCH GOING TO STAY.

ON ONE SIDE YOU'VE GOT THE RETENTION POND FOR THE TREAT OAKS. ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S AN UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY WHICH AT SOME POINT WILL BE DEVELOPED WITH APPROPRIATE BUFFERS. THERE'S A FENCE ALONG BRINKOFF ROAD WHICH WOULD BE MAINTAINED FOR TO RV BOAT STORAGE, AND UNTIL THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT, AT THAT POINT WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COUNTY WOULD REQUIRE US TO BUFFERING. THIS IS WHAT THE BUILDING -- BASICALLY IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR BUFFER THAT YOU HAVE, THAT'S REQUIRED BETWEEN THE LANDOWNERS.

IT'S 20 -- I JUST WANT TO VERIF, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A BUILDING. THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORS ALONG I THINK ICE MUSTARD HILL ROAD. THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD SEE IS THE REAR OF A BUILDING WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE A TALL FENCE BUT THAT'S WHAT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE.

THAT EVEN PROVIDES ADDITIONAL BUFFER.

NO OPEN STORAGE WILL BE FACING ANY NEIGHBORS.

LIGHTS, AS I MENTIONED, IS AN ISSUE.

AND I FEEL BAD FOR THESE PEOPLE. TREATY PARK IS VERY ACTIVE PARK IN COUNTY, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS, AN EVENING BASIS, NOT A DAY-TO-DAY, AND THESE WERE TAKEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING IT.

WE WOULD HAVE KNOWING LIKE THIS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID ALL WE WOULD HAVE IS ONE AT THE ENTRANCE AND THEN, IN FRONT OF THESE BUILDINGS THERE WOULD BE MOTION DETECTORS, LIGHTS THAT WOULD GO ON IF SOMEBODY IS THERE, BUT THEY WOULD BE ON INSIDE.

THERE ARE LITTLE SCONCES THAT ARE ON THE BUILDING.

AND I FEEL -- WE FEEL THAT THE AMBULANCES ARE FAR AWAY FROM THEIR ENTRANCES. AS I SAID, NO WETLANDS ARE ON THE PROPERTY. OUR OPEN SPACE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND ANY STORM WATER WOULD BE PERMITTED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND ALL MUST BE RETAINED ON SITE THROUGH OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT POND. I KNOW I HAVE OPPOSITION, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSION OR THE AGENCY

AND RESPOND AFTERWARDS. >> MR. MATOVINA:

DR. HILSENBECK. >> DR. HILSENBECK: WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT?

>> SPEAKER: NOT ANY TO DATE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC -- WE COULDN'T -- I COULD NEVER NEGOTIATE.

TBUNS THAT WE'RE WILLING -- THE ONES THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO, BASED ON THE COMMENTS -- I GOT THIS YESTERDAY, I THINK IT WAS -- WERE -- AND WE EVEN BROUGHT IT UP AT THE LAST MEETING, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OUT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WILLING TO DO, AS WELL AS IF THEY WANT -- THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LIMITATIONS OF SOME OF THE USES WHICH WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WILLING TO DO.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I HEARD SEVERAL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SAY TODAY AND DURING EX PARTE, AND I DO HAVE AN EX PARTE HERE -- I'M SORRY, I NEGLECTED TO SAY -- I DID DRIVE BY THE SITE YESTERDAY AND LOOKED AT IT PRETTY THOROUGHLY, SO I HEARD SEVERAL MEMBERS SAY THAT THEY HAD DISCUSSED CHANGES WITH YOU.

WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE? YOU JUST SAID NONE.

>> SPEAKER: NO, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE TRIED TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT IN TRYING TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP TO THE MEETING SO THAT WE COULD MAKE CHANGES TO

IT. >> DR. HILSENBECK: DID THREE

PEOPLE SHOW UP? >> SPEAKER: THREE PEOPLE DID, AND THEY HAD QUESTIONS, WE ANSWERED THEM AND THEY WERE FINE WITH THAT. THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY CHANGES.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD WAS -- ONE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT LIVES ON THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT BEHIND THE PROPERTY. WE SHOWED THEM -- BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE SITE. HE WAS FINE.

HIS OTHER CONCERN WAS THE INTERSECTION AT 207 AND BRINKOFF ROAD WHICH IS AWAY FROM OUR PROPERTY, AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON SAID THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPROVED BY -- OOH A DOT ROAD

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AND DOT, IT'S IN THEIR PLANS FOR THAT TO BE IMPROVED SO THAT WAS NOT AN ISSUE. BUT WHEN IT CAME, THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE PUD, THEY DID

NOT HAVE ANY. >> DR. HILSENBECK: SO YOU DIDN'T DISCUSS ANY CHANGES WITH PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD.

>> SPEAKER: RIGHT. >> DR. HILSENBECK: SO THERE

HAVE BEEN KNOW NO CHANGES. >> SPEAKER: NO.

AND ACTUALLY TODAY I DID TALK TO SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF THESE COMMENTS, AND I THINK HE'S A NEW, AS I SAID, THE PRESIDENT OF THE TREATY OAKS, TODAY HE DID CALL ME, AND I SAID 1 OKAY WEEK FINALLY I'M GLAD YOU CAME TO ME. IT'S NICE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? WE'LL DO WHATEVER.

WE JUST NEED THE SPECIFICS. I MEAN, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU THE BEST WE CAN BUT -- I I CAN KEEP CHANGING THIS ALL DAY AND NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO

MAKE THEM HAPPY. >> DR. HILSENBECK: THIS GOT VOTED DOWN ON DECEMBER II 7, 6-0 ON THIS BOARD.

I'M VERY SORRY I COULD NOT BE HERE I WAS ON A LONG TRIP.

IT WAS VOTED DOWN 6-0. YOU MADE MAY NO CHANGES SO WHY SHOULD THIS WOARD SPROAT ANY DIFFERENTLY TODAY?

>> SPEAKER: I GUESS MY BIGGEST THING IS WE'VE TRIED FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS TO TRY TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND FRY TO COME UP WITH ANY CONCESSIONS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

WE'VE OFFERED. AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RESPONSIVE. AND I HAVE NUMEROUS EMAILS THAT I HAVE ASKED THEM TO PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE SO THAT I CAN REVISE THE PUD. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO REVISE SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK:, SO LET ME ASK, DO YOU HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE PHOTO IN YOUR PRESENTATION? BECAUSE I WAS MAKING SOME NOTES.

COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT OOFERL PHOTO OF AERIAL PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY? AND I'M NOTE SURE WHEN THAT WAS TAKEN BUT I'LL TELL YOU THIS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT NOW.

AERIAL PHOTO. >> SPEAKER: I THINK IT'S IN --

I DON'T HAVE ONE HERE. >> DR. HILSENBECK: WELL, IN THE AERIAL PHOTO THAT WAS IN OUR PACKETS, AND SOMEONE MAY WANT TO PUT SOMEONE UP. I SEE SOMEONE RAISING THEIR HAND. I CAN'T RECOGNIZE THEM.

THAT WOULD BE THE CHAIR'S ABILITY TO DO THAT.

BUT IT WAS A HEAVILY WOODED SITE WHEN THAT AERIAL PHOTO WAS TAKEN, AND WHEN I WAS OVER THERE YESTERDAY, THAT SITE HAS BEEN MOSTLY CLEARED AND COMPLETELY CLEARED, SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU WHEN WAS THE LAST CLEARING DONE -- WHEN WAS CLEARING STARTED AND WHEN WAS IT -- THE LAST CLEARING.

>> AND CAN I ASK MR. BACON TO COME UP HERE? BECAUSE HE'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: YEAH. >> SPEAKER: I DON'T WANT TO

SAY SOMETHING THAT'S INCORRECT. >> DR. HILSENBECK: SURE.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW. >> SPEAKER: I DIDN'T GET UP AND MEET YOU GUYS RAS LAST TI. JIM BACON 55 FARRELL ROAD WITH OWNER OF BACON STORAGE, BACON MARINE CONSTRUCTION, MODERN BUILDING SOLUTIONS. THE PREVIOUS OWNER, I BOUGHT THE LAND FROM IN OCTOBER, HIRED THE SITE WORK CONTRACTOR WHO KNOCKED DOWN ALL THE PINE TREES FOR AN ORCHARD FOR THE TOWNHOMES BEHIND ME, HIRED THEM TO COME IN AND CUT DOWN ALL THE PINE TREES.

NOW, WE STILL HAVE LARGE PINE TREES THERE, BUT AT THE TIME THEY WERE TOO CLOSE TO THE TRAILER HOMES, AND SO THE GUYS THEY HAD CUT ALL THE TREES DOWN WOULDN'T TAKE THE CHANCE.

THE STUMPS ARE STILL THERE. ALSO, THE PREVIOUS OWNER HIRED I BELIEVE VICTOR ACROSS THE STREET.

HE'S A BIG DEVELOPER. THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. THERE WAS A BIG PILE OF TOPSOIL DIRT THERE LEFTOVER FROM WHEN THEY BUILT THE KB HOMES TOWNHOMES. THEY USED THAT MATERIAL TO FILL IN A POND ON MY PROPERTY. THIS IS BEFORE I OWNED IT.

BUT ACCORDING TO THE STATE RULES, ANYTHING THAT'S LESS THAN AN ACRE AND A QUARTER THAT'S A POND, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO FILL IN.

AND SO THE PREVIOUS OWNER DID THIS FOR WHATEVER REASON AND I

HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. >> DR. HILSENBECK: SO YOU DID

NOT ORDER ANY CLEARING -- >> SPEAKER: NONE, NONE.

I RNTD A BOOM LIFT FOR A WEEK. WE WENT IN -- BECAUSE I'M PRETTY VERSED WITH THE LAND LAND DET CODE.

I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS READ ALL 1,000 PAGES OF IT.

WITH ALL THE RULES TO THE LETTER.

NOTHING GREATER THAN 8 INCHES WAS TAKEN DOWN.

PINE IS EXCLUDED. WE DIDN'T TAKE ANY PINE DOWN BUT WE LIMITED LIMBED FEMME. THEM.

WE TOOK CARE OF ANY HAZARD, ANY WIDOWMAKERS AND CLEANED THE PROPERTY UP THAT HAD NEVER BEEN PROPERLY DONE IN THE PAST.

MY PREVIOUS LIFE UP IN MICHIGAN I WAS AN ARBORIST AND BIKE PATH BUILDER AND A BRIDGE BUILDER AND A DAM BUILDER AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE

NOT DONE ANYTHING ILLEGAL. >> DR. HILSENBECK: DIDN'T SAY

YOU DID. >> SPEAKER: PEOPLE HERE HAVE CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT ON ME. CODE ENFORCEMENT'S BEEN OUT.

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NO VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN ISSUED. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT WAS CALLING IN A FALSE POLICE REPORT.

FOR WHATEVER REASON. THERE'S BEEN AERIAL PICTURES TAKEN OF MY PROPERTY. MY TENANT WAS OUTSIDE SUNBATHING ON THAT DAY. WHEN SHE HEARD THE DRONES FLYING OVER, NOW SHE'S LEAVING BECAUSE OF THE HARASSMENT.

SO THRARS BEEN THERE'S BEEN T OF -- THERE'S BEEN A RED MERCEDES DRIVING BY AND MY GUYS WERE BUILDING THE FENCE, THEY'VE BEEN FLIPPING THEM OFF AND SAYING, "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ANYTHING ON THAT LAND," AND YET IT'S MY PROPERTY.

IT'S OPEN RURAL. I MEAN, I CAN HAVE PIGS AND WHO GOES HOGS. I COULD HAVE REAL BACON ON THERE. I WOULD HAVE HORSES, COWS, I COULD HAVE FREE RANGE CHICKENS. I COULD HAVE -- WHAT'S THE -- PRIMITIVE CAMPGROUND WHICH WOULD COMPLETELY TAKE CARE OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN THIS TOWN.

TEN BUCKS A NIGHT. I'D GET 500 GUYS IN THERE CLOSE TO THE LIQUOR STORE, PUBLIX. IT WOULD BE PERFECT.

I'D SOAFL ALL THE PROBLEMS. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY BUILDINGS. JUST PITCH A BUNCH OF TENTS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE RUN A NICE QUIET OPERATION WITH A BEAUTIFUL WOOD FENCE THAT RUNS LANG BRINK OFOFF.

IT'S LIKE DISNEY DPREEN AND DISNEY BROWN.

DISNEY COINED THAT WORD BECAUSE OF THE CLOSER HE USED SORT OF MADE THING DISAPPEAR, BLEND INTO THE SCENERY, SO WITH THAT SOLIDDED WOO FENCE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE LOOK OF FORT KNOX AND SECURITY, WE'VE ALSO GOT ONE HECK OF A CAMERA SYSTEM, AND I'M ADDICTED TO THE CAMERA SYSTEM. I'M CONTINUAL WATCHES.

AND THE PEOPLE OUR COMMERCE GET A KICK WHEN THEY DRIVE INTO OUR FACILITY ON WILDWOOD AND ALL OF THE BIG LIGHTS ARE ON MOTION SENSORS AND THEY POP ON AND THEY STAY ON FOR MIEB FAVE FIVE MINUTES, JUST ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BACK UP THEIR BOATS.

JUST ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BACK UP TO THEIR BOAT, HOOK ON AND GO BECAUSE A LOT OF GUYS GO OUT FISHING AT 4:00 IN MORNING SOMETIMES. BUT IT'S VERY QUIET.

WE HAVE PEOPLE, WE HAVE SURGEONS THAT ON THEIR LUNCH HOURS COME HANG OUT IN THEIR RVS ON-SITE. JUST CHILL OUT AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO FLAGLER HOSPITAL. SO IT'S REALLY A NICE, PEACEFUL PARK-LIKE SETTING. AND WHAT I HAVE DONE WHEN A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREES, THE TREE COVER, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE, THERE'S A FEW OF THEM HERE WHO DID I HAVE AT THE TOWNHOMES BEHIND ME, AND WHAT ABOUT THE TREES? I GO, WELL, FROM YOUR UPSTAIRS WINDOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE TREE TOPS BUT YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE A 16-1/2 FOOT TALL WHITE BUILDING WHICH WILL RUN THE ENTIRE DISTANCE, AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE HERE, I BELIEVE, WHEN WE MET, HE SAID, "WELL, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A METAL BUILDING BEHIND ME THAN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE MAKING NOISE IN MY BACKYARD." SO HE HAS A VERY VALUABLE POINT THERE. OKAY? SO -- BUT OTHER THAN THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: SO YOU MENTIONED THE LIGHTS COMING ON ON YOUR WILDWOOD FACILITY AT, SAY WEEKS, 4:00 IN MORNING.

DOES ANY OF THAT LIGHT SPILL OUTED THAT PROPERTY?

>> SPEAKER: NO. BEVERLY FRAZER USED TO BE WITH PLANNING. SHE WAS MY PLANNER WHEN HE WE BUILT THE STORAGE. WHEN WE GOT THE PHOTO METRICS DONE, A COUPLE OF THE SHOTS, THE PHOTO METRICS CAME IN BRIGHT, AND SHE HAD SAID, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO TURN THESE DOWN? YOU'VE GOT MANY THINGS YOU CAN DO.

YOU CAN TO GO A LOWER WATTAGE LIGHT BULB ON OR THESE AHEADED LED TIX FIRS CHEWER THAT HARDLY COST ME ANYTHING TO OPERATE WEEK JUST TURN THEM DOWN. SO THERE'S NO HORIZONTAL LIGHT.

IT'S ALL VERTICAL LIGHT SO YOU CAN'T SIGHT FROM AFAR.

I REALLY DO THE PEOPLE SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR HOMES DURING THE DAYTIME IN TREATY OAKS BECAUSE SINCE THE TOWNHOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT, THEY CUT DOWN ALL THE TREES, AND NOW ALL OF THAT TREATY PARK LIGHTING COMES THROUGH TO MY PROPERTY, SO NOW I'VE GOT LIGHT POLLUTION, AND IT'S LIKE WHERE DID THIS ALL COME FROM? SO I UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T WANT THAT, THEY DON'T WANT A BURR PIECE OR THEY DON'T WANT WHAT THEY JUST BUILT AT WORLD GOLF VILLAGE.

NO, THAT'S NOT US AT ALL. WHEN WE HAVE TWO BUILDS THAT SURROUND TWO CORNERS, TWO SIDES PROPERTY AND WE'VE GOT SCONTSZ MOUNTED ON THOSE PROPERTIES WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY BACK INTO THEIR UNITS, THAT LIGHT WILL STAY CONTAINED INSIDE THE FACILITY. IT WON'T BOUNCE OUT.

PEOPLE WILL SAY, JIM, DO YOU HAVE ANY LIGHTS ON IN THERE? IS IT SAFE? YEAH, JUST TAKE A DRIVE AROUND.

WHEN THEY DRIVE AROUND, THE MOTION SENSOR POPS THE LIGHTS ON LONG ENOUGH FOR THEM TO GET TO THEIR VEHICLES AND THEY'RE GONE.

PLUS, WITH HAVING THE BUILDINGS OR AN THE OUTSIDE, THAT CONTAINS

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ANY POSSIBLE NOISE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MAY POSSIBLY BLEED OUT. SO WE TRIED TO FOLLOW THIS DESIGN, THE SAME THAT WE DID THAT KAREN TAYLOR DID MY WILDWOOD DRIVE TROT PROPERTY, AND THAT IS PUT THE BUILDINGS AROUND THE PERIMETER WHICH CONTAINS EVERYTHING, AND WE TRIED TO BE AS NEIGHBORHOOD CONSCIOUS AND FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS. >> DR. HILSENBECK: IND ONE I HAD ONE INITIALLY THAT I DON'T ANY GOT UHL FELLY ANSWERED.

WHEN WAS THE LAST CLEARING DONE, ANY TREES CUT DOWN ON THAT

PROPERTY? >> SPEAKER: NO TREES WERE CUT

DOWN, JUST TRIMMED. >> DR. HILSENBECK: I SAW SOME TREES THAT WERE DOWN IN THE PACK BACK.

>> SPEAKER: TWO BRUSH PILES. >> DR. HILSENBECK: THAT STILL HAD LEAVES ON THEM. I JUST FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE, AND YOU'RE AN ARBORIST WELL AS WELL, THAT THOSE TREES COULD HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO AND STILL HAVE LEAVES

ON THEM. >> SPEAKER: WE RENTED A 60-FOOT BOOM LIFT JUST OVER TWO MONTHS AGO.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: SO YOU DID DO SOME CUTTING ON THE PROPERTY.

>> SPEAKER: YES. YOU ASKED IF THE TREES WERE CUT DOWN. I SAID, NO, THEY WERE PRUNED.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: PRUNED. OKAY.

IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE THERE WAS EXTENSIVE CLEARING ALONG THE SOUTH BOUNDARY LINE. THERE WAS ANY TREE CANOPY LEFT.

YOU COULD LOOK STRAT THE THROUGH FROM BRINKOFF ROAD TO THE SOUTH AND SEE THE BACKS OF THE RESIDENCES THERE COMPLETELY.

THERE WAS NOTHING SHIELDING THE BACKS OF SOME OF THOSE

RESIDENCES. >> SPEAKER: THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A WHITE VINYL FENCE THERE SINCE I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I'M TALKING ABOUT A CAN'T FEE PEE, TREE CANOPY SPUNCHTS THEY'RE STILL THERE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: I DIDN'T SEE IT.

IT LOOKED CLEARED TO ME. MAYBE THERE WERE PHOTOS.

I ISSUE WITH I HAD TAKEN SOME BUT I'M NOT ALLOWEDTOLOGY ON PROPERTY SO I CAN JUST LOOK AT THEM FROM THE ROAD.

>> SPEAKER: SOMEBODY PUT UP THE I-MAP WHICH SHOWS THE CLEARING. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

>> SPEAKER: ALL THOSE TREES ARE STILL THERE.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: ALONG -- IF YOU LOOK AT AN EARLIER PHOTO, THERE'S A LOT MORE CANOPY ALONG THAT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY THAN IS

SHOWING IN THIS PHOTO. >> SPEAKER: COULD YOU BE MORE

SPECIFIC ON THAT YEAR? >> DR. HILSENBECK: I DON'T KNOW. IT WAS IN MY PACKET SO THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT CAREER THAT WAS TAKEN YEAR

THAT WAS TAKEN. >>>

>> SPEAKER: I BHAT OCTOBER OF '21.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: BUT I DON'T SEE AN EXISTING TREE CANOPY ALONG THAT LINE. I SAW A FEW SAW PALMETTOS IN THE BACK AND A FEW VERY SPARSE TREES LEFT REMAINING.

IT LOOKED LIKE THAT WHOLE CANOPY HAD BEEN CUT DOWN TO ME.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. ARE YOU CURRENTLY STORING ANY

VEHICLES OR PROPERTIES? >> SPEAKER: JUST MY FRIEND AND

FAMILY AND MY PERSONAL ASSETS. >> DR. HILSENBECK: SO THE

BACKHOE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS YOURS? >> SPEAKER: THAT'S MY TOY.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: ALL RIGHT. GREAT.

SO YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY, ANY VEHICLES OR RVS OR ANYTHING,

BOATS STORED OUT THERE NOW? >> SPEAKER: I'VE GOT MY HOUSEBOAT OUT THERE, AND I'VE YOU GOT MY SISTER-IN-LAW'S

FRAILER AND I'VE GOT MY TENT'S. >> DR. HILSENBECK: SO YOU'RE NOT CHARGING ANYONE CURRENTLY FOR ANY STORAGE OUT THERE.

>> SPEAKER: NO. >> DR. HILSENBECK: GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. SO I LOOKED AT A TABLE THAT WAS IN -- I'LL BRING THAT UP LATER. I'LL ACTUALLY BRING THAT UP DURING DISCUSSION. AS WELL AS SOME OTHER POINTS.

SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT THANK

YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS. >> MR. MATOVINA: THINGS THANKS, DR. HILSENBECK. STAFF .

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT A QUESTION. MS. FLEET, COULD YOU TBRIP SITE PLAN, PLEASE. AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT BUT YOU QUOFERRED A LOT OF GROUND IN YOUR PRESENTATION BUT I THINK THERE IS A WAIVER REQUEST FOR A BUFFER SETBACK ON THE WESTERN LINE RIGHT ALONG THAT BUILDING. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT TO THE

BOARD. >> AND BECAUSE THE IDEA OF THAT WAS THAT IT'S 10-FOOT. IT WILL BE 10-FOOT ON THE OTHER SIDE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED BY THE TREATY OAKS, AND BUT THEN IT MIGHT INCREASE ON THE OTHER SIDE WHEN THAT'S DEVELOPED AT A BUT IT WAS ONLY 10-FOOT.

THE REASON WE'VE LOCATED THE BUILDINGS WHERE WE DID IS BECAUSE OF THE -- THERE'S SOME REALLY NICE TREES ON THAT SITE THAT WE TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM, SO WE PUT THEM WHERE -- SO THE IDEA WAS IT'S 10-FOOT ON THEIR SIDE BUT IT WILL BE 10-FOOT ON THE TREATY OAK SIDE, 20-FOOT OF A BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO

PROPERTIES. >> AND IF I CAN CLARIFY AND YOU LET ME KNOW IF I'M WRONG. THE REQUIREMENT, THERE'S A 20-FOOT SETBACK FROM BUILDINGS NON-RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL,

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WHICH THAT PROPERTY I THINK THAT MR. BACON OWNS BUT COULD SELL, THERE'S A 20-FOOT SETBACK TO THAT BUILDING, SO YOU'RE REQUESTING RELIEF FOR 10 FEET FROM THAT BUILDING BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR A 10-FOOT BUFFER THAT'S THERE SO THRFERS A BUFFER OF 10-FOOT, AND THEN THE 10-FOOT PUD BOWFORT OTHER SIDE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO YOU'LL HAVE 20 FEET BETWEEN POTENTIAL BUILDING ON THAT SIDE AND THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING NOW.

AGREED? >> YES, CORRECT.

AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAIVER WE REQUESTED.

>> MR. MATOVINA: MS. PERKINS. >> MS. PERKINS: MR. BACON, YOUR FACILITY ON WILDWOOD, THE ORIGINAL I GUESS PUD THAT YOU DID ONLY CONTAINED THE BUILDINGS AND THE PARKING LOT IN THE MIDDLE. IS THAT CORRECT?

THAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL PUD? >> SPEAKER: THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION INCLUDES 80 SOME THOU SQUARE FEET WORTH OF SELF STORAGE.

AND THEN THE FILLINS WERE BOAT AND RV.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE STILL HAVO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, TO ONLY BUILD A THREE-STORY 39-FOOT HIGH STORAGE BUILDING UP TO 49,000 SQUARE FEET, AND A 5700 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT BUILDING TO THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT.

IN ORDER FOR ME TO FULFILL THAT, I NEED TO MOVE THE BOATS AND RVS OUT. THAT'S WHY I SELECTED THIS AS A SPOT FOR MORE BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

>> MS. PERKINS: OKAY. SO THEN ON YOUR -- ON THIS CURRENT SITE YOU OWN THE PARCEL NEXT DOOR.

IS THAT YOUR INTENT TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR OR --

>> SPEAKER: ARE YOU TALKING SPECIFICALLY 1600 BRINKOFF ROAD?

>> MS. PERKINS: YES. >> SPEAKER: I'M NEGOTIATING WITH A BUILDER NOW FOR ME TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE HORIZON ONLY THE AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET 20 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON

THERE. >> MS. PERKINS: ON THE PARCEL

NEXT TO YOURS. >> SPEAKER: 1600 TO THE WEST.

>>> >> HIS INTENT TO MAINTAIN THE RESIDENTIAL ON THAT PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WHY WE PULLED THE MAJOR MOD MODIFICATION OUT. WE WITHDREW IT ONCE HE OWNED THE

PROPERTY. >> MS. PERKINS: SURE.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: ARE THERE ANY NOR QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, LET'S MOVE INTO

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MS. PERKINS: WE HAVE TEN SPHEARK CARDS. RON HOWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> SPEAKER: SURE. P.

FIRST OF ALL, CAN WE PUT UP PHOTOS? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RON HOWARD.

I LIVE AT 11 OPA WAY IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

WE HAVE SOME AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE AREA.

THANK YOU, DR. HILSENBECK, FOR ASKING THE QUESTION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE SOME AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS PROVIDE BY MD WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNEW THE PROXIMITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO THIS PROJECT SITE.

AND SO THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MAP.

SO AT THE TOP OF THE AREA YOU CAN SEE THIS AREA OVER HERE.

THAT IS TREATY OAKS. THIS IS ENCLAVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. THIS IS THE PROJECT SITE.

AND THIS IS ORCHARD PARK. SO WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHERE THIS SITE IS. THE RESIDENTIAL PROPOSAL THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALSO IS GOING TO BE ALL THIS WOODED AREA.

SO WE'RE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THIS AGENCY DENY THIS APPLICATION AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS INDEED INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENCES AND PARK COMMUNITY. CAN I GO TO THE NEXT.

THERE YOU GO. SO HERE'S ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPH, SAME AREA OVER THE TOP AERIAL HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BASEBALL FIELD FOR TREATY PARK.

GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. NEXT PHOTOGRAPH.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT.

SO WE HAVE ALSO ABOUT 260 SIGNATURES THAT REPRESENT A PETITIONERS AGAINST THIS PROJEC PROJECT.

THIS REPRESENTS OVER 260 HOMES. JIM BACON PURCHASED THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND IN JUNE OF 2021, AND IMMEDIATELY STARTED WORNLG ON WORKING ON E PREPARATION FENCE, REMOVING SHRUBS AND SOME TREES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

CAN I GET THE DOCUMENT, PLEASE THERE YOU GO.

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THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A CERTIFIED LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO JIM BACON, COPY TO THIS BOARD AND OTHERS AS WELL, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE CERTIFIED LETTER THIS IS JANUAR.

WE FOUND OUT ON MONDAY THE 31ST THAT THEY HAD SCHEDULED THIS MEETING THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ON FEBRUARY THE 16TH AT 6:00 P.M. AT WILDWOOD DRIVE. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT OUR RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO WALK ACROSS WILDWOOD DRIVE AND IN THE COLD AIR AND TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

NOW, WE ASK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR STAFF PULL UP THAT PRIDE COMPLAINT 211253 AND ANY OTHER COMPLAINTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS

PROPERTY. >> MS. PERKINS: THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS: DOUGLASS QUINN

QUINN. >> AND DOUGLAS QUINN 41 TUMBLESTONE WAY, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TALK TODAY.

TOP OF THE DAY TO YOU ALL. I HAVE SOME POINTS TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION FOR REVIEW. CURRENT PROPERTY IS ZONED OPEN RURAL. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS NOT COMPATIBLE AND SHOULD NOT BE REZONED.

WE BRING HOMEOWNERS, WE BEING HOMEOWNER OF TREATY OAKS ENCLAVE AND/OR CHARRED PARK WOULD LIKE TO IT SAY THAT WAY.

I'LL PRESENT OUR CASE. ENOUGH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS BEING DEVELOPED NEARBY WITH TREAT OAKS MARKETPLACE ON ROUTE 207 AND BRINKOFF ROAD WHEN IS THE PUBLIX.

2 SOME 90,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS SPACE BEING BITTEL AS WE SPEAK. TRAFFIC STUDY HAS CONCLUDED THAT BRINKOFF ROAD WILL NOT SUSTAIN THE INCREASE OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, ON BRINKOFF ROAD.

THE CURB ENTRY FROM 207 HAS ALREADY BEEN RECONSTRUCTED TWICE SO THERE THAT IS BEEN A SIGN OF NO COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, BUT THE SIGN IS PLACED IN A SPOT WHERE YOU WON'T SEE IT, AND THEN IT'S TOO LATE. LANDSCAPING HAS BEEN DESTROYED ON THE ISLAND ENTRY AS WELL. RESIDENT SAFETY, FUEL, PROPANE, STORAGE, ET CETERA, WILL ALSO IMPACT US.

NEGATIVITY IMPACT ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES WITH COMMERCIAL SPACE SO CLOSE. MR. BACON CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO GO BACK TO WHEN ST. JOHNS COUNTY INSPECTORS TRIED TO GET ACCESS ON THE BRINK OFOFF PROPERTY AND DENIED THEM ACCESS TO THE FACILITY. AESTHETICS.

IF YOU HAD PURCHASED A $600,000 HOME AND THEN COMMERCIAL FACILITY OPENS UP ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU AFTER BEING TOLD THIS WAS OPEN RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WOULD YOU BE UPSET? I THINK SO. SO WOULD YOU FIGHT TO HAVE THE ZONING -- TO HAVE IT NOT CHANGE? I THINK SO.

WE HAVE A POTENTIAL 600 PLUS GROWING FAMILY MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR SAFETY IS AT STAKE.

YOU, THE PZA BOARD, HAVE ALREADY VOTED 6-0 DENIAL WITH NO NEW PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO VOTE THE SAME. WE HAVE SUBMITTED A PETITION WITH APPROXIMATELY 600 SIGNATURES OPPOSING THIS ZONE CHANGE. NO COMMERCIAL BOAT RV STORAGE OR RETAIL SPACE. NO COMMUNITY CASES FROM MR. BACON AND ASSOCIATES TO THE HOMEOWNERS OF THE SO-CALLED MEETING WITH MR. BACON WAS A JOKE.

ONL ON HIS TERMS WITH NO CONSIDERATION FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED BY MR. HOWARD.

NO FLEXIBILITY. NONE.

WOULD YOU LIKE THIS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? SUBDIVISION? I WOULD THINK NOT.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, YOUR TIME AND

YOUR ATTENTION. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS: DEBORAH QUINN. >> AND .

>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DEBORAH QUINN.

I LIVE AT 41 TUMBLESTONE WAY. IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF THE PARCEL OWNED BY MR. BACON LOCATED ON BRINKOFF ROAD.

I FEEL THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT APPROPRIATE

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OR COMPATIBLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THE REZONING OF THE PARCEL FROM OPEN RURAL TO THE PUD WILL ONLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GOING DOWN BRINKOFF ROAD. THERE WILL BE TRUCKS OF ALL SIZES, HUGE RVS, BOATS, TRAITORS, ET CETERA.

IN A CONTIGUOUS TO THE RV BOAT STORAGE, MR. BACON IT WASN'T TO DEVELOP 16,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE'S ALREADY 94,000 SQUARE FEET BEING PUT UP AT 207 AND BRINKOFF ROAD. THIS IS ONLY ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED BACON SITE ON BRINKOFF ROAD.

WE DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT IS GOING TO BE ON BRINKOFF ROAD. FROM TREATY OAKS MARKETPLACE.

I IMPLORE THE BOARD TO ACT RESPONSIBLY AND PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF THE PARCELS UNDER CONSIDERATION LOCATED ON BRINKOFF ROAD.

I ALSO WANT TO STATE THAT I LIVE IN TREATY OAKS.

I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM MS. -- I APPRECIATE YOUR

TIME TODAY AND APPRECIATE IT. >> MS. PERKINS: TIMM POMPEOS.

>> MR. MATOVINA: I'M GOING TO DO GIVE TIM SIX MINUTES BECAUSE HE'S REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

>> SPEAKER: DO I NEED A POINTER OR DO I JUST -- GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TIMM POMPEOS.

I'M A RETIRED FIRE MARSHAL. I'VE FILLED IN MANY CAPACITIES IN THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, AND CURRENTLY I AM WORKING AS A ESE SCHOOL TEACHER IN THE AREA WORKING WITH DISADVANTAGED KIDS.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M COMING OUT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE -- AND I'M ALSO, BY THE WAY, THE NEWLY APPOINTED PRESIDENT OF TREATY OAKS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WHICH WE'VE ON BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS.

ONE THING I DO PRIDE MYSELF IN MY PREVIOUS CAREER WAS, IS THAT I'M A TEAM BUILDER. I'M A COMPROMISER.

I'M A NEGOTIATOR. I HAD TO BE IN MY JOB AS A FIRE MARSHAL. I HAD TO WORK WITH APPLICANTS A, APPLICANTS B. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PERSON THAT LOOKS OUT FOR BOTH PARTIES INVOLVED.

I'VE ALWAYS CONSIDERED MYSELF A VERY FAIR AND EQUITABLE PERSON, A MORAL PERSON, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WHEN I'VE SEEN THIS PROJECT COME ALONG, THERE'S BEEN JUST -- I DON'T KNOW -- IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOT BEEN A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY.

WE DIDN'T GET PROPER NOTIFICATION WITH OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, ZONK & JACOBS.

WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE NOTIFICATION RIGHT AWAY.

IT WAS LIKE WE ONLY FOUND OUT BY ACCIDENT WHEN THE FIRST PROPOSAL WAS SENT UP BACK IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, AND FORTUNATELY ENOUGH WE HAD CONCERNED CITIZENS IN TREATY OAKS, LIKE MYSELF, MR. HOWARD AND OTHERS, IS THAT WE REALLY BUCKLED DOWN AND SAID, OH, MY GOD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS REALLY -- YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S REALLY DESIGNED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE ONLY OR EVEN ROYAL USE ONLY.

I AM NOT OPPOSED TO RURAL USE. IT WOULD KEEP THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WOULD MAINTAIN THE VALUES, IF ANYTHING, INCREASE THE VALUESN==. RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH MANY OF THEM, DOZENS IN MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER. AND ONE THING HAS ALWAYS BEEN IS SAFETY, QUIETNESS, AND UNIFORMITY.

AND WHAT WE SEE HERE WITH THIS PROPOSAL WITH 2109 PUD BY I CAN BAON STORAGE, IT BREAKS ALL THOSE PARAMETERS.

NOTHING IS UNIFORM HERE. NOTHING WILL BE THE STAUM.

IF ANYTHING, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE OVER 600 HOAMPLE HOMEOWNERS, THEIR PROPERTY VALUES COULD ACTUALLY GO DOWN WHICH, AS ALL OF US ARE, WE'RE TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, IF OUR PROPERTIES GO DOWN, GUESS WHAT? THE TAXPAYERS OF ST. JOHN WILL BE COLLECTING TAXES, WE GET LESS IN OUR COFFERS.

WE'LL HAVE LESS FOR OUR FIRE RECUSE.

WE'LL HAVE LESS PRIS POLICE PROTECTION TO PAY FORE OFFICERS.

LESS FOR SCHOOL TEACHERS. I I MEAN, THIS IS REAL.

THIS IS NOT FAKE. LIKE I SAID, I COULD GIVE YOU THIS POWERPOINT, AND I THOUGHT -- YOU KNOW WHAT? -- I'M GOING TO SPEAK FROM MY HEART AND FROM MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE

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HERE, AND I'M REALLY DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE INTEGRITY, THE CHARM OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGE WHERE YOU SUDDENLY PULL IN LIKE ONE OF OUR -- A COUPLE OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY SAID, AND IT'S HAPPENED, OUR ENTRANCE HAS BEEN DESTROYED TWICE, DAMAGED AND HAD TO BE REPLACED, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRAILERS WITH BOATS AND THEY'RE GOING TO STORE TRAILERS ON THIS PROPERTY, AND THERE'S NO FLOODPLAIN, THERE'S NO ELEVATION PLAN. I'M CONCERNED AS A FIRE OFFICIAL, RETIRED FIRE OFFICIAL, YOU'VE GOT FIBERGLASS BOATS, HIGH OCTANE MARINE FUEL. ON ANY STORAGE SITE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STORE THEIR LP GAS. IS THE FACILITY GOING TO HAVE SPRINKLERS? IS IT GOING TO BE FULLY SPRINKLERED? WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE SURFACE RUNOFF? WHERE IS THE HYDRAULIC FLUID AND ALL THE DIES EL FUEL AND MOTOR FUEL? YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S HUMAN NATURE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO FLOOD OFF INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, ORCHARD PARK, TREATY OAKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING THE BAG, WHICH AS A HOARP AND AS CURRENT NOW I'VE JUST BEEN NEWLY ELECTED AS THE HIEVMENT, I'M DEEPLY WERND CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR FEAST, OVER 600 FAMILIES. I'M NOT TALKING AS THE PRESIDENT BUT IN FORMAL FASHION HERE, I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED, AND I URGE YOU TO MAINTAIN YOUR VOTE OF 6-ZO AGAINST THIS.

I'M A PERSON THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK PER WITH MR. BACON, MAYBE DO WORKFORCE HOUSING.

LET'S GET OUR POLICE OFFICERS, LET'S GET OUR FIREFIGHTERS, LET'S GET OUR TEACHERS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS AREA.

THAT WOULD BE PRIME REAL ESTATE BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A PARK. THERE COULD BE A CORRIDOR BUILT SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE SAW ON.

SPANISH FOREST. SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY TASTEFUL AND MAINTAIN THE VALUES FOR THEIR TAX COFFERS.

THIS WOULD NOT. THIS WOULD POSSIBLY RECUSE OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND REDUCE OUR TAX COLLECTED.

I URGE YOU AS A PROFESSIONAL RETIRED FIRE OFFICIAL TO VOTE NO FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS: MR. POMPEOS COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR RECORD.

>> AND MY GREASE TIMOTHY, 36 OLIVEINE COURT ST. AUGUSTINE FLO 32086. I'M SORRY, MEGAN.

>> MS. PERKINS: DONNA CURTAIN. >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M HERE AGAIN ASKING YOU TO PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST ONCE

AGAIN. >> MS. PERKINS: CAN YOU STATE

YOUR NAME. >> SPEAKER: 90 SILVER FERN DRIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE AT THE OLD ORCHARD PARK TOWNHOME WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE ROAD. I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY -- THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY DIDN'T YOU DIRECTLY EFFECT ME AT MY HOME BUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BEHIND THERE ARE OUR COMMUNITY BEHIND THAT WALL, IT AFFECTS ALL OF THEM AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS HAVEN'T EVEN MOVED INTO THEIR BUILDINGS YET. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

I'M HERE FOR ORCHARD PARK. THE OTHER ISSUE IS JUST TO TELL MR. BACON HE SAYS HIS LIGHTS DO NOT GO THROUGH.

THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AT WILDWOOD RUNS RIGHT THROUGH MY-BEDROOM EVERY SINGLE NIGHT AND IT'S ON ALL NIGHT LONG.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE HAS TO DO TO THAT LIGHT, BUT THERE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL A ISSUE THERE. THE OTHER REASON IS THAT I DIDN'T GO TO HIS MEETING. KB HOMES, OUR BUILDER, HAD A BIG MEETING FOR US AND WE HAD TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT OUR COMPLETE AREA THERE ON THE FIRST PORTION OF PHASE 1 OF ORCHARD PARK AND THEY WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR CUL-DE-SAC AND COMPLETELY CHANGE EVERYTHING THAT WE ALREADY PUT ALL OF OUR HEART AND SOUL INTO TO GET GOING, AND THAT GOT SHOT DOWN, AND THEY E. DID REGROUP AND THEY MADE IT COMPATIBLE FOR ALL OF US TO KEEP THE WAY WE ARE. I DID NOT GO TO HIS MEETING, AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS LIKE WALKING INTO THE LION'S DEN.

WHY WOULD I NEAT ON HIS PROPERTY WHEN WE COULD HAVE MET HERE IN THE PZA BUILDING? EVERYBODY WAS UP FOR THAT, AND WE HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. I'M SORRY, I DID NOT GO TO THE MEETING BECAUSE I HAD AN IMPORTANT ISSUE WITH KB HOMES ABOUT MY HOME. AND WE ASKED HIM, SEVERAL PEOPLE ASKED HIM TO CHANGE THE MEETING TIME OF, AND THEY WOULDN'T DO IT. I DID NOT GET ANY PHONE CALL OR EMAIL OR A LETTER IN THE MAIL FROM MR. BACON, EITHER, CONCERNING ANY OF THIS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

KNOWING. NOT EVEN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. I ACTUALLY FOUND OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ORANGE SIGN SITTING ON BRINKOFF ROAD WHICH I WALK AND UP DOWN EVERY DAY WITH MY DOG TWO FOR THREE TIMES SOMETIMES. IT'S A NICE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

I LOVE IT. IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

NATURE. EVERYBODY IS VERY

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COMMUNITY-ORIENTED. EVERYBODY SAYS HI.

I WANT TO DEEP THAT. THAT'S WHY I MOVED HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE MIDDLE HAVE A COMMERCIAL AREA.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR TRUCKS GOING AROUND.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. I'M TIRED OF THE NOISE.

I JUST WANT IT TO BE A NICE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THOUGHT I FOUND THAT, AND I'M FIGHTING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.

I WANT YOU GUYS TO VOTE NO. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS: JOHN

MCKEEVER. >> MY NAME IS JOHN MCKEEVER 49 MR. TUMBLESTONE WAY, TREATY OAKS, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

REGARDING THE APPLICATION WE ARE HERE TODAY ON, THE BACON RV BOAT STORAGE FACILITY, I'M MAKING YOU AWARE OF MY OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGING OF ZONING. FROM THE CURRENT STATE OF OPEN RURAL TO COMMERCIAL FOR THE PROPERTY LOADING ON BRI BRINKOFF ROAD. THERE AS LOY LONG OF UNFAVORABLE A PRIMARY ELECTION TRIBUTES TO THIS CHA THAT WOULD BRING TO VOWNTND PROPERTIES ALREADY DEVELOPED.

FIRST THE PROPOSED RV BOAT STORAGE LACKS THE APPROPRIATE STUDIES TO CONDUCT SUCH TIE BUSINESS A PROPOSED IN THE ALLOWABLE BUSINESSES TO FIND AN APPLICATION PROVIDED FOR TOO BROFD WHAT COULD BE DEVELOPED. THE PLAN WAS PURELY NOT WELL CRAFTED AND IN MY OBSERVATION IT'S A SIMPLE ATTEMPT TO WISH PUSH THROUGH A PROCESS WITHOUT PROPER VEGHT.

SECOND AND MORE IMPORTANT IS THE UNAPPROPRIATELESS OF HAVING AN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ORCHARD PARK. THE ACCESS THE CUT-THROUGH AS DEVELOPED BY THE TREATY OAKS PUD DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR TRACK OF SOACIALTD WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

FROM THE BACON RV STORAGE FACILITY.

PROPOSAL, THE PROPOSED 24-HOUR ACCESS IS NOT IN FAMILY WITH SURROUNDING AREA WHEN IT COMES TO THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, NOISE AND GENERAL CONGESTION FROM A FACILITY OF THIS PROPOSED SIZE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PROPERTY ZONED PARCEL LOCATED ALONG 207 THAT ARE BETTER SUITED 4 A FACILITY OR A BUSINESS SUCH AS THIS.

PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN ZONING FOR PARCEL AND CONSIDERATION LOCATED ON BRINKOFF ROAD.

THANK AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU AND I APPRECIATE

YOUR TIME. >> MS. PERKINS: LAURA

GRAYFELD. >> SPEAKER: HI.

I'M NOT A PUBLIC SPEAKER AND THIS IS KIND OF FREAKING ME OUT.

MY NAME IS LAURA GRAYFELD I LIVE AT 10 SANDSTONE DRIVE, TREATY OAKS. MOST OF THEM ALREADY SAID WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE LIGHTS FROM TREATY PARK ARE ONLY ON AT NIGHT WHEN THERE IS ACTIVITIES, AND THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY STAY ON ANY LATER THAN THAT IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T DO YOU ARE THEIR JOB AND TURN THEM AUTO OFF BUT THEY DON'T STAY ON ALL THAT LATE SO THAT PICTURE IS KIND OF MISLEADING.

REYES, THEY ARE A LITTLE BRIGHT AT NIGHT BUT NOT ON ALL NIGHT, ONLY WHEN THERE'S AN ACTIVITY. I LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A COMMUNITY. IT'S HOMES.

I'M RETIRED BUT I LOVE SEEING THE CHILDREN THERE.

I LOVE SEEING ANIMALS THERE. IT'S A NICE FRIENDLY PLACE.

PUTTING A BUSINESS IN THE MIDDLE OF COMMUNITIES ON ONE SIDE, ONE OAT OTHER SIDE, ONE ACROSS THE STREET DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

THEY WANT A BUSINESS, GO TO 207. THAT'S WHAT 207 BASICALLY IS, FOR THE MOST PORT PARTED, NOT ALL BUT FORT MOST PART.

YOU DO NOT PUT A BUSINESS IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMMUNITY.

YOU WANT IT TO BE A FRIENDLY PLACE FOR KIDS TO GROW UP, FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE WALKS, NOT COMMUNITY -- I MEAN, NOT A BUSINESS. THAT ADDS MORE TRAFFIC.

IT ADDS MORE NOISE. IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT PLACE.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS: MICHAEL

BRADLEY >> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL BRADLEY. I RESIDE AT 288 MUSTARD HILL COURT WHICH IS IN THE ST. AUGUSTINE WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

I BASICALLY FEEL THE THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S BEEN SPEAKING AGAINST THIS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROAT IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S SLOWLY DEVELOPING INTO ALL RESIDENTIAL.

WHY DON'T WE TRY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

AFTER GOING THROUGH THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND READING IT IN DETAIL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT, NOT JUST FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY AND WHAT IS TRYING TO BE PUT THERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION HOW THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE DEALT WITH FOREVER.

DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO WITH A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS AREA OR DO WE WANT TO TURN AROUND AND KEEP IT IN THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING OR BEING DEVELOPED IN THE

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AREA. SO TO FINISH THIS UP, BASICALLY I AM AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME, AND I WANT TO THANK

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU.

>> MS. PERKINS: PHILIP ABDENOR.

>> SPEAKER: GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M SPILL IP ADELENORV 286 MUSTARD HILL COURT, ST. AUGUSTINE IN ORCHARD PARK.

I WANT THOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE THE THIS AGENCY. WE DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT EACH ONE OF YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, AND YOU HAVE A TOUGH TASK AHEAD OF YOU.

BUT YOUR FINDING IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING ON THIS MATTER WERE VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE VIEWS OF THE 600 PLUS INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER THAT ARE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS APPLICATION.

YOUR FINDINGS WERE THAT THE PROPOSED PLAN TO ALLOW THE PUD FOR BOAT AND RV STORAGE WAS NOT COMPAT INLAND TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THE 5 ACRES ON BRINKOFF. BUT NO MORE SO THAN EACH ONE OF US INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS HAVE MADE IN OUR OWN HOMES.

AND LIKE MOST OF US, THIS IS OUR MOST -- OUR HIGHEST SINGLE INVESTMENT OF OUR LIVES. SO THE PLANS THAT WERE PRESENTED HERE TODAY HAVE NOT CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY FROM THE PREVIOUS REQUEST, AND ONCE AGAIN WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE AGENCY TO CONSIDER THE HOMEOWNER'S REQUEST TO BE RETAINED CURRENT OR STAT OURS ALLOW ZONING FOR HOMES WITH SIMILAR STRUCTURES AND VALUES OF NEIGHBORHOOD WE INVESTED IN OR AS THE APPLICANT PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED, PERHAPS HAVE THE COUNTY ANNEX THE PROPERTY AS A A PART OF TREATEDY PARK.

ANYWAY, AGAIN WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS AND THANK YOU

FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. >> MR. MATOVINA: THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND PROVIDE SOME REBUTTAL.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK.

I JUST WAS LOOKING THROUGH MY EMAILS BACK IN FORTH JUST ABOUT AFTER THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING ABOUT SETTING UP A MEETING, AND I WISH THAT WE COULD HAVE USED THIS BUILDING, AND I DID TALK TO COUNTY STAFF WHEN WE GOT MR. HOWARD -- I -- BEFORE YOU SET UP THE MEETING, I EMAILED MS. BISHOP, CROWN WALDRON TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE COULD WE HAVE THE MEETING, AND THEY SAID YOU KNOW WAS THERE COUNTY FACILITIES, WHATEVER.

SO THEN WHEN I EVER RECEIVED, WHEN I WENT OVER THE PLAN FOR WHAT I DID -- I DID IT WITH COUNTY SPHAICH SAID WOULD THIS WORK? IS THIS APPROPRIATE? AND I DIDN'T -- THEY SAID, SOUNDS GOOD.

AND THEN, AND ALL THIS IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN EMAIL BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

AND THEN I -- THEY KNEW ABOUT IT BECAUSE I GOT AN EMAIL FROM MR. HOWARD ON FEBRUARY 2ND, MORE THAN A FEW WEEKS BEFORE.

FIRST HE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LOCATION.

RIGHT AWAY AGAIN I CALLED COUNTY STAFF.

IS THIS OKAY? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S NO POINT IN HAVING A MEETING IF IT'S NOT A GOOD LOCATION, IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE.

AND HE SAID, AGAIN, REITERATED, NO, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS FINE.

AND THEN -- SO WE WENT FORWARD WITH IT.

THEN THEY CAME UP WITH AN EXCUSE THAT THEY HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH KB HOMES. I MEAN, IT HAD ALREADY BEEN ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, AND WE CAN'TAL CRO EVERYBODY'S MEETINGS. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A LOT.

BUT IT WAS ON THE NBR WEBSITE OF WHEN THE MEETINGS WERE.

SO, I MEAN, AND -- I WISH AND I'VE TALKED OTHER CONSULTANTS, PEOPLE COME BEFORE YOU, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, THESE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, BUT IT'S HARD FOR US AS APPLICANTS TO COME UP WITH A GOOD LOCATION. CONVENIENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS AVAILABLE. TWO THINGS.

ANYWAYS, WE DID -- I DID HAVE COMMUNICATION.

SO IT WASN'T LIKE I IGNORED THEM BECAUSE I DID REACH OUT, PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, EVERY COMMUNICATION I COULD TO GET THEM AWARE, TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE PETITIONS, BUT THOSE DON'T REALLY -- NO, IS HERE TO ACTUALLY BRING UP POINTS THAT WE KNOW. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE SIGN PETITIONS. I'M NOT SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARAL SIGNING. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE IDEA

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OF MIXED USE IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS WORKED FOR.

THAT'S WHY PUDS ARE -- YOU HAVE BUILT THIS COUNTY IS PUDS. AND LOOK AT MIXED USE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT REDUCES TRAFFIC GENERATION BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING TO DRIVE SO FAR UNTIL THEY HAVE SERVICE THAT THEY NEED. RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, YOU TRY TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUFFERED APPROPRIATELY, WITH THE -- BUNCHED APPROPRIATELY NOT TO QULIM PACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S OUR HOPE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE. THESE ARE SERVICES THAT THE PEOPLE IN TREATY OAKS AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WILL USE. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S WHY IT'S BEING LOCATED THERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE DEMANDS.

MR. BACON HAS OVER HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT RENT FROM YOU?

>> WE'VE GOT OVER 450 CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE COME AND BEGAN.

IN FACT, MONDAY WE REND TO A PERSON IN ORCHARD PARK TO STORE HIS BOAT. WE HAVE SEVERAL CUSTOMERS FROM

TOWNHOMES ACROSS THE STREET. >> AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A PLACE CONVENIENT TO THEIR HOUSE. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, THERE WAS -- IT'S NOT THAT HE WASN'T DENIED ACCESS. THAT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THEY CAN'T GET ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE CODE FORM.

UNFORTUNATELY YOU HAVE TO SEE THE FROM THE STREET.

THAT'S STATE LAW. NO COUNTY PERSON, JUST LIKE DR. HILSENBECK, YOU CAN'T JUST BALK WALK ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY. EVEN IF IT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. AND E HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACTIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THE SITE THAT I'M AWARE OF, SO I JUST WANT THAT TO GO. LIKE I SAID WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO COMMUNITY. WE HAVE GONE, TRIED TO MEET WITH THEM, AND WE DID IT EVER WHICH WAY THAT WE COULD.

WITHOUT CALLING EVERYBODY OR SENDING INDIVIDUAL LETTERS TO PEOPLE WITHIN TREATY OAKS. WE DID IT THROUGH THE COUNTY THAT THEY GIVE YOU WITHIN 300 FEET.

THAT'S LETTERS WE SENT. >> WE FOLLOWED THE LETTER, FOLLOWED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

>> AND ACTUALLY THAT WAS MORE THAN WE HAD TO DO.

THIS IS NOT A REQUIRED MEETING. OBVIOUSLY, THE COUNTY COMMISSION ASKED US TO HAVE THE MEETING SO WE LOOKED AT IT.

BUT WE DID EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF WE HAD A REQUIRED PUBLIC MEETING. THAT IS REQUIRED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY. WITH THE ADVERTISING THAT WAS ON THE NBR, AND SEND LETTERS WITHIN 300 FEET.

>> I'D LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING.

THE LAST GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, PHILLIP, I INVITED PHILLIP OVER TO MY OFFICE. HE WAS WITH A BUSINESS ASSOCIATED OF HIS AND WE HAD, WHAT, 45 MINUTES SITTING TALKING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO TO MAKE IT WORK, AND HE LIVES DIRECTLY BEHIND MY FACILITY.

MR. HOWARD, I'VE SENT HIM THREE EMAILS TO SAY, LET'S GET TOGETHER AND TALK. COME ON OVER FOR A DUP OF CUPF COFFEE. I'M ACROSS THE STREET.

LET'S SIT DOWN, COME TO SOME AGREEMENT.

Y THERE'S ALSO A GENTLEMAN THAT ID THE PYROPOINT AT THE LAST PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AND I REACHED OUT TO HIM, AND HE CALLED ME BACK AND EADE SAID I'M NOT GOING TO THE MEETING.

I JUST DID THE PYROPOINT FOR THE GUYS.

I'M LIKE, WHAT'S TALK. IF YOU GUYS DON'T WANT THE COMMERCIAL I HAVE TO HAVE THAT PARKING BECAUSE IT KIND OF SOME TIME IS THE REST OF MY DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE WILDWOOD DRIVE PROPERTY. I NEED PARKING.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I JUMPED ON BRINKOFF.

NOW, WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THEY PREVIOUS OWNER OF 1600 BRINKOFF HAD PLANS AND WAS COMING BEFORE YOU TO BUILD ANOTHER BOAT AND RV STORAGE, I MET WITH HIM, DON SUT OAN AND SAID, DON, I'M MAKE YOU AN OFFER YOU CAN'T REFUSE. LET ME BUY OUT BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE TWO SELF-STORAGES IN THE TREATY AREA.

WE'LL BOTH GO BANKRUPT. SO -- AND I ALSO HAVE NEWS THAT YOU I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY, THAT THERE IS A LARGE GAS STAYING COMING UP ON THE CORNER NEXT DOOR TO THE PUBLIC LICK ON THE OUT LOT. THEY'RE IN DUE DILIGENCE RIGHT NOW. ALSO, WE DROVE TO THE BACK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET FROM BRINGS, AND THOSE HALF A MILLION, $600,000 HOUSES HAVE A VINYL FENCE SEPARATING THEM FROM THE BACK OF PUBLIX. AND I'M GOING, WOW, WE'VE GOT TO WATCH THOSE BECAUSE IF THOSE HOUSES SELL FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY, THAT'S PROOF THAT PROPERTY VALUES DO NOT GO DOWN NEXT DOOR TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> AND HIS BUILDINGS IS GOING TO BE HIGHER.

THE VINYL FENCE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS AND HIS PROPERTY, UNLIKE PUBLIX IS PROBABLY 8 FEET.

>> AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL IN NEIGHBORHOOD.

KB HOMES JUST PUT IN TO BUY MARK MONTHS CREME A PROPERTY ON

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2800 ACRES AT. THE TOWARD THE JUBEIR SYNAGOGUE.

IT GOES TOWARD HARRY'S PROPERTY AND GOES BACK TO THE SALVATION ARMY PROPERTY. THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD 138 TOWNHOMES. HAS THAT COME BEFORE YOU GUYS

YET? >> MR. MATOVINA: YES.

>> SPEAKER: IT'S SUPPOSED TO JOIN ON BEHIND ORCHARD PARK SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE DEVELOPMENT HUNDREDS OF TOWNHOMES, AND WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE COMMERCIAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TAKES THE TRAFFIC OFF OF 207. ALL THESE PEOPLE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO UP TO THE PUBLIX. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO MY STRIP MALL. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT ON A GOLF CART. P I UNDER.

I LIVE IN VILANO. I'M LOOKING AT THE HUGE HOTELS BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW. EARL JENSEN WHO OWNS THE MAGIC BEACH IN THE OCEAN VIEW CAME TO ME AND SAID SAID, JIM, WOULD YOU COME SPEAK FOR ME WITH JOHN ARVIN'S HE WANTED TO BUILD THE BIG FREE, FOUR STORY HOTEL ON THE OCEAN.

I SAID, EARL, NO. I'M ALREADY TOO POLITICAL INVOLVED BECAUSE I'M NOT THAT GREAFTD A PUBLIC SPEAKER.

I'M JUST REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I DO.

I SAID, LET IT GET BUILT. THIS IS A REPUBLICAN STATE.

I BELIEVE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS. THE CODE CALLS FOR NOTIFYING PEOPLE OF 300 FEET AWAY. AND YET I DO WANT TO ADD THIS, THAT IF YOU ALLOW PEOPLE THAT ARE FURTHER THAN 300 FEET AWAY TO DICTATE THE RESULTS OF REZONINGS, HERE'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. TRAVIS FENTON JUST GOT THAT BILL PASSED IN THE STATE THAT ALLOWS BUSINESSES TO SUE MUNICIPALITIES FOR CODE AND ORDINANCE ISSUES. OKAY? THERE'S A NEW SELF-STORAGE COMING ON STATE ROAD 207 ACROSS FROM THE PUBLIX. IT'S CALLED WILDWOOD SELF STORAGE. IT'S OWNED BY ATLANTIC SELF STORAGES. HE OWNS EVERYTHING.

CURRENTLY THE 4 ACRES THAT HE'S ON IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. NOW, FOR ME BEING A SELF-STORAGE OWNER, YOU KNOW, ASH IS A BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY.

IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE WALMART ATTACKING.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO COMPETE AGAINST A SELF-STORAGE THAT'S A MILE AWAY ON SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THESE PEOPLE PROBABLY WON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S ON 207 AND AT THE LAST MEETING A GENTLEMAN SAID, WE WANT TO SEE MR. BACON -- WE WANT TO SEE HIM BUY $500,000 AN ACRE PROPERTY ON 207. THAT'S THE CHEAPEST LAND.

EVEN PAUL WALDRON'S LAND IS $500,000 AN ACRE THE ON CORNER OF LIGHTSEY ROAD. THERE'S NO LAND ON 207 UNDERSTAND $500,000 AN ACRE. AND IF YOU DID PAY $500,000 AN ACRE, YOU'D NEED AT LEAST 3 ACRES, 1 POINT FFN MILLION DOLLARS. THE NUMBER DON'T ADD UP.

EVEN WITH RISING INTEREST RATES, SBA 504, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO MAKE A PROFIT INFORMANT SELF-STURGIS STORAGE BUDS AT THE CURRENT RATES OF $1.38 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR CLIMATIZED STORAGE SPACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT A BIG COMPANY BIKE ATLANTIC SELF STORAGE COMING IN TO HO HAS $10 MILLION IN THE BANK AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHO CAN FUND THAT.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE SMALL BUSINESSMAN LIKE MYSELF IS OUT.

THAT'S WHY THE NEED TO EXPAND MORE NOTE AND RV STORAGE.

I CAN BUILD MORE CLIMATIZED STORAGE ON THE WILD WOOD DRIVE PROPERTY, BUT I HATE LOSING THE LUCRATIVE BOAT AND RV STORAGE BUSINESS. BUT HERE'S THE RESIDENCY WAS TRYING TO SAY. ASH PROPERTIES IS COMING IN TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY ON 207. I'M GOING TO BE A MILE AWAY AND I'M GOING TO BE COMPLAINING, NOISE, TRAFFIC, LIGHTS, COMPETITION. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY HERE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT COMPETITION. BUT COMPETITION IS GOING TO BE MY EXCUSE. BUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, MORE THAN LIKELY, WILL APPROVE THAT PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S ON 207, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A MAJOR COLLECTOR.

BRINKOFF ROAD, A MAJOR COLLECTOR.

I DIDN'T MAKE IT THAT. TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS GRAVEL.

NOW IT'S A MAJOR COLLECTOR. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THAT PROPERTY. I KNOW YOU ARE.

BECAUSE IT'S ON 207. YOU THINK THAT'S A NO.

BRAINER? BUT I'M GOING TO BE A GUY A MILE AWAY COMPLAINING, LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GREATER THAN 300 FEET AWAY, COMPLAINING TO INFLUENCE YOUR DECISIONS.

AND YET THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BEING

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THE BUSINESSMAN I AM, LIKE DEALING WITH A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE, WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? BECAUSE IT'S MY JOB.

BEING A BUSINESSMAN I AM, AT THAT TIME I WILL TRY TEAK ADVANTAGE OF THE BILL THAT HE JUST GOT PASSED AND HOPEFULLY THE GOVERNOR SIGNS FOR DAMAGES BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FAIR. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

>> MR. MATOVINA: HAVE YOU CONCLUDED YOUR REBUTTAL?

>> SPEAKER: YES, I THINK SO. ANYWAY, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I DID PULL UP A LOT OF COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THE NEIGHBORS, SO THEY KNEW ABOUT THE MEETING.

AND LIKE I SAID WITH THE COUNTY. SO APPRECIATE IT.

I APPRECIATE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: DR. HILSENBECK.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: WELL, I'M NOT SURE THESE ARE QUESTIONS, BUT I GUESS THEY'RE QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

WE HEARD SOME HEARSAY STATEMENTS MADE HERE ABOUT THE VALUE OF HOMES BEHIND PUBLIC, BEHIND A 6-FOOT VINYL FENCE AND THAT THOSE ARE GOING UP IN PRICE. WELL, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP IN PRICE IN THE U.S., NOT JUST THERE.

SO I DON'T SEE HOW THEY CAN MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THE VALUES ARE GOING UP AND ATTRIBUTING IT TO WHAT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT EVERYTHING'S GOING UP RIGHT NOW. I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE ATLANTIC SELF STORAGE THAT WAS MENTIONED.

CAN WE VERIFY BY LOOKING AT THE CURRENT ZONING AND THE FLUM MAPS OF WHAT THAT SITE IS AND HOW IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED? AND THAT ITEM HAVEN'T EVEN COME BEFORE US YET SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OPINION ON IT AT THE MOMENT, BUT CAN WE SHOW SOME GRAPHICS ON THAT? IS THAT POSSIBLE?

>> THROUGH THE CHAIR, GIVE US JUST A MINUTE, IF YOU WOULD.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

I DO HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. ONE OF THE APPLICANT.

I WONDERED IF -- YOU SAID THE COUNTY INSPECTOR THAT WAS SENT OUT THERE ON THE PRIDE COMPLAINT WAS NOT REFUSED ACCESS, BUT THAT STATEMENT WE SAW FROM MR. HYDRO THAT HE PUT UP ON THE SCREEN SAID HE WAS. I'M JUST WONDERING IF INDEED HE WAS AND DID HE ASK TO GET ON THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. >> MR. MATOVINA: MS. FLEET, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION?

>> DR. HILSENBECK: OR SHE. MAYBE IT WAS A WOMAN.

DID SHE ASK TO GET ON THE PROPERTY? AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PRIDE COMPLAINT.

>> SPEAKER: I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, EITHER, SIR.

MR. HOWARD SHOWED SOME PRIDE COMPLAINT.

I'VE NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING CERTIFIED IN THE MAIL.

THEY USUALLY COME CERTIFIED. >> MR. CHAIR.

>> SPEAKER: GO AHEAD, SIR. >> SO I CAN COMMENT ON THAT.

THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE ABOUT A PRIDE CASE, AND WHETHER OR NOT -- WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED. SO THERE WAS A PRIDE CASE FOR THAT PROPERTY. I'LL READ THIS VERBATIM SO EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M NOT CHANGING IT UP HERE.

ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF WENT BY THIS SITE THIS MORNING.

THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN 12/7/2021 AND TRIED TO INVESTIGATE MR. BAKE OAN'S PROPERTY FOR ANY VIOLATIONS AS REPORTED IN THIS PRIDE CASE. I WAS MET AT THE FRONT OF SIGHT YOU SITED BY MR. BACON WHO INFORMED HE THAT I OR ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE DO NOT HAVE -- TO ENTER AT THE TIME THE PLOT.

WE WERE NOTE GRANTED ACCESS. THIS IS COMING FROM ENVIRONMENT A STAFF AGAIN. UNFORTUNATELY, NOTHING CAN BE SEEN FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS MR. BACON HAS NOW ERECTED A PRY VEINS FENCE. THE STAFF VIEWED TREE TRIMMING WHICH IS ALLOWED BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS TIME. THROW THERE WAS HEAVY MACHINERY 34-R PRICKON SCED HE WOULD BE DIGGING I PONDS K4 NOTE -- ALLOWED BY THE COUNTY WITHOUTY. -- COUNTY STAFF COULD NOT OBSERVE ANY SITE ACT OF FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT I WAS CODE VIOLATION WITHOUT PROPERTY ACCESS.

STAFF WILL INCLUDE THE ISSUE POTENTIAL LAND SCHEARNG OR TREE REMOVAL ON THE SITE AND THE REVIEW OF ANY FUTURE CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPLICATION FROM THE OWNER.

SO AGAIN, STAFF HAS TO OBSERVE. WE WEREN'T ALLOWED ON-SITE TO OBSERVE ANYTHING. THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE PRIDE

CASE DIED. >> DR. HILSENBECK: THEY DID

TRY TO ACCESS THE SITE? >> YES.

>> SPEAKER: YEARS AIG BUILT A WALL TOO TALL AROUND MY FARRELL ROAD PROPERTY. IT WAS 7-FOOT TALL.

CODE ENFORCEMENT CAME BY AND SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR THAT WALL DOWN BECAUSE I HAD A NEIGHBOR IN THE BACK OF PORPOISE POINT WHO BUILT A WALL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT MADE HIM TEAR IT DOWN. SO HE CAME AND NARKD ON ME AND

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ALL OF THIS WENT ON AND ON. I WENT AND GOT MY FACE TRAINING.

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

FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHO HAS BEEN SO AFFECTED, INCLUDING THE AERIAL SHOTS THAT WERE TAKEN ILLEGALLY AND PUBLISH BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, THEY WEREN'T EDITED, THEY WERE PUBLISHED. THEY CAME INTO THE PUBLIC EYES.

THAT'S ILLEGAL. THAT'S A PRIVACY ISSUE.

RON, THAT IS A PRIVACY ISSUE. A VIOLATION OF MY RIGHTS FOR SEARCH AND SEIZURE, COMPLETE VIOLATION OF THE 4TH AND

14TH AMENDMENTS. >> MR. MATOVINA: MR. BACON.

MR. BACON. >> SPEAKER: YES.

>> MR. MATOVINA: WE'RE NOT HERE FOR YOU TO GIVE US A HISTORY YOUR EDUCATION. WE'RE HERE ON A MATTER.

>> SPEAKER: I'M VERY SORRY. I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THERE'S THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INVESTED MOONCHTS I GET THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE.

OKAY? THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON

TODAY. >> SPEAKER: IT'S NOT LIKE I DIDN'T LEAD THE OFFICER. THE OFFICER KNEW HE COULDN'T GET

IN THERE. >> MR. MATOVINA: WE GOT THAT MESSAGE. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: VERY GOOD. I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

>> MR. MATOVINA: DR. HILSENBECK, DO YOU HAVE ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS? >> DR. HILSENBECK: I DOF OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY. IS IT ILLEGAL TO TAKE PHOTOS OF SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY FROM A DRONE?

DO YOU KNOW TANS TO THAT? >> NO, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. THE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS TAKEN BY COUNTY STAFF. I BELIEVE THAT WAS TAKEN BY A

PRIVATE CITIZEN. >> DR. HILSENBECK: RIGHT, IT WAS, BUT APPARENTLY MR. HOWARD OR SOMEBODY HE KNEW, SO I JUST WONDERED, IT WAS JUST STATED THAT THAT WAS ILLEGAL BY THE APPLICANT SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF INDEED IT IS ILLEGAL.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: BACK TO STAFF.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IF I IN A, DR. HILSENBECK, TO IMAGERY UP AND WE CAN SELECT THE LAYERS OF EITHER THE LAND USE TER OR THE ZONING BUT I NEED SPECIFICALLY WHICH PARCEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE ON IT.

I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED THE PUBLIX WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BE GOING IN AROUND HERE. IT'S IMAGERY OF WHAT WE HAVE

FROM 2019, I BELIEVE. >> I SEE BRINKOFF ROAD TO THE NORTH. JUST GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE NORTH ACROSS THE STREET. RIGHT THERE.

THE THREE PARCELS -- GO BACK DOWN.

>> YOU CAN COME OVER AND POINT THEM OUT.

DR. HILSENBECK, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT, SOAJ OR LAND USE?

>> AGAIN THROUGH THE CHAIR, CHA SPECIFIC PARCEL ARE WE --

>> DR. HILSENBECK:, I'M CONFUSED.

WHICH IS WHERE THE PUBLIX WOULD GO AND WHICH IS WHERE THIS NEW UNBEKNOWNST TO US AT THIS TIME WANT LEAST TO ME, ATLANTIC SELF STORAGE WOULD GO, AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT --

>> THE PUBLIX. >> -- THEY ARE ZONED.

>> I BELIEVE THE PUBLIX IS HERE, AND THEN MR. BACON, I THINK YOU CAIRTD THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND FOR SURE IN TERMS OF APPLICATIONS, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT --

>> SPEAKER: THERE'S A TRIANGLE.

TWO SQUARES AND A THIRD TRIANGLE.

>> SO IF I WAS TO HIT THE ZONING ON THAT.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING IS NOT COMING UP BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S POTENTIALLY, MAYBE SOME COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND OPEN

RURAL. >> DR. HILSENBECK: SO IT'S CURRENTLY SOAFNED COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

>> MR. MATOVINA: IT'S TO GET A PIECE THAT'S OPEN RURAL.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: AND A PIECE, A SMALLER PIECE.

BUT THE BULK OF IT IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

IT'S NOT, FOR EXAMPLE, RESIDENTIAL, AS WAS, I BELIEVE

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STATED THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I COULD ASK MR. HOWARD WHEN THE DATES OF THOSE, THE DRONE PHOTOGRAPHS

WERE TAKEN, I'D BE CURIOUS. >> I HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE PICTURES WERE TAKEN. THE THEY WERE PROVIDED TO ME.

I DO KNOW THEY WERE PROVIDED TO ME RIGHT BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING IN JANUARY. AND SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DRONE PICTURES. THEY WERE THERE, THEY WERE PROVIDED TO ME FOR US TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE LAY OUT OF THE LAND. THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: ALL RIGHT. >> BUT I KNOW IT'S FAIRLY RECENT. THAT'S IT.

>> DR. HILSENBECK: ALL RIGHT. I'M LOOKING FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. I DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MIC, FOR THAT.

THAT WAS VERY ELUCIDATING TO SHOW THAT COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.

I WISH WE COULD HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING.

TO THAT WAS GOOD. I GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MATOVINA: DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, THEN WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. MS. PERKINS.

>> MS. PERKINS: SEEING HOW THE APPLICATION HASN'T CHANGED SINCE THE PREVIOUS ASSIGNMENT BEFORE US, I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN CHANGE MY VOTE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL OF PUD 2021-21, MOTION TO RECOMMEND DEFINITELY PUD 2127-09 BACON STORAGE A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4.9 ACRES LAND FROM OPEN RURAL AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW UP TO 1600 SQUARE FEET OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES AND A RV BOAT AND MIN STORAGE FACILITY BASED UPON TEN FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> MR. MATOVINA: SO WE'VE GOT A NOTION FOR DENIAL BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND?

SECOND BY MR. PIERRE. >> MR. PIERRE: YES.

>> MR. MATOVINA: NOW WE HAVE TIME FOR DISCUSSION.

ANYONE? >> DR. HILSENBECK: WELL, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO -- DID YOU RECOGNIZE ME?

>> MR. MATOVINA: I JUST DID. I DID WITH MY HAND.

HIT THE SPACE BAR. >> DR. HILSENBECK: YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT ZONING OF THIS IS RES-C AND IT'S OPEN RURAL WITH A FUTURE LAND USE OF RES-C. IT'S SURROUNDED BY A SEA OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL TYPE PROPERTY OR A BUSINESS, AND REFERRING TO A TAKE A BREAK, IT WAS TABLE 2N -- TO A TABLE, IT WAS TABLE 2N MATERIALS WE WERE PROVIDED WITH ZONING DESCRIPTION OF ALLOWABLE USE DESCRIPTION WITH CURRENTLY WITH OR, WHICH IT IS, THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL INSTITUTION, OUTDOOR PASSIVE OR NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC SERVICE. TO ME THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A LIBRARY. WHAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE TO THE PUD WITHIN THAT RES-C, NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL. CLEARLY THAT OR GENERAL COMMERCIAL, OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL.

SO I DON'T SEE THIS BEING A COMPATIBLE AND APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND TO BUILD A STORAGE FACILITY AND BOAT AND RV STORAGE ON THE PROPERTY.

MR. BACON OWNS ONE THAT'S ABOUT -- IT'S LESS THAN HALF A MILE AWAY, I THINK ABOUT 4/10 OF A MILE AWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WILDWOOD, AND A CLAIM WAS MADE THAT THE PROPERTIES NEXT TO THAT WENT UP IN VALUE BY THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTTIVELY.

VIRTUALLY, I SAID BEFORE, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP IN VALUE.

I DON'T CARE WHAT IT'S NEXT TO. BUT I WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE LOOKING DOWN INTO THIS PROPERTY. THOSE TOWNHOUSES DIRECTLY BEHIND AND/OR CHARRED PARK, FROM WHAT I COULD SEE FROM THE ROAD FROM BRINKOFF ROAD, THEY WOULD LOOK DIRECTLY DOWN INTO THE PROPERTY.

THEY WOULD LOOK OVER ANY ROOFS OF ANY STORAGE FACILITIES AND DIRECTLY INTO THE HEART OF THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT LIGHTING, IT WOULD NOT SPILL OFF OF THE PROPERTY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T THINK THAT A SHOULD MAKF A REQUIRED BUFFER.

AND I DO BELIEVE IN PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

I'VE BEEN A PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ADVOCATE FOR YEARS.

BUT THAT INCLUDES EVERY PROPERTY OWNER, NOT JUST ONE.

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THAT INCLUDES THOSE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT IN THERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO, LAST YEAR, GOT APPARENTLY 600 HOMES THAT HAVE SIGNED A PETITION.

THOSE PEOPLE HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AS WELL.

I REALIZE THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROPERTY. BUT IF I WAS BUYING IN THERE AND I HAD DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOKED AT THIS AND I SAW, OH, EVERYTHING'S FUTURE LAND USE RES-C, THIS IS OR, I WOULD HAVE FELT COMFORTABLE BUYING THERE, BUT THEN COMING IN AND SAYING WE WANT A COMMERCIAL PUD HERE TO ESTABLISH THIS FACILITY, I JUST, I THINK THAT'S A ROAD TOO FAR FOR ME ANYWAY, SO I'M GOING TO BE QUIET AT THIS POINT. I THINK THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE THAT ARE GOOD THAT I CAN SUPPORT.

SO THANK YOU. >> MR. MATOVINA: MR. PETER.

>> MR. PETER: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ALSO ECHO WHAT MS. PERKINS SAID. THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGES TO THIS APPLICANT SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET.

AND I WAS A BIT SURPRISED THAT IT WAS BACK IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD SO I'M GOING TO FIND THIS VERY TOUGH TO VOTE FOR.

>> MR. MATOVINA: ANYONE ELSE? I WAS LOOKING AT THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REVIEW, AND IN THEIR REVIEW IT SAYS THE AGENCY MAY, BOARD MAY APPROVE OR DENY THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO REZONE IF THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ZONING SERVES A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR KEEPING THE EXISTING ZONE, MAY INCLUDE THAT THE REZONING PRODUCES, AND IT SAYS, SPOT ZONING AND INCOMPATIBILITY ORE DEVIATION FROM AN EXISTING,

[7. PUD 2021-21 Adler Creek. A request to rezone approximately 734 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for a maximum 1,682 residential dwelling units, located east of Pacetti Road, west of the future CR 2209, and south of Scaff Road.]

ESTABLISHED OR DEVELOPING LOGIC AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T SEE HOW WE DON'T FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY HERE, IN MY OWN OPINION. DR. MCCORMICK.

>> DR. MCCORMICK: I VOTE NO. I VOTE A VOTE TO DENY WOULD S

VOTE. >> MR. MATOVINA: CORRECT.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENT? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

SO A YES VOTE IS A VOTE TO DENY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION PASSES 7-0. ALL RIGHT.

MR. SMITH, YOU'RE UP. AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE ON ADLER CREEK?

>> ELLEN AVERY-SMITH CALLED ME YESTERDAY, AND I DID TECH HER BACK AND MENTIONED A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD BE ASKING HER. SO THAT WAS IT.

AND I DID MISSTATE THE TURNBULL CREEK CONSERVATION ACREAGE.

IT'S 131 ACRES ALONG TURNBULL CREEK, BUT 220 WITHIN THE FULL DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.

>> MR. MILLER. >> MR. MILLER: MS. SMITH CALLED ME AND LEFT A VOICE MAIL. I APOLOGIZE DID I NOT CALL HER