Mar 15, 2022 Board of County Commissioners

>> GOOD MORNING, HOW ARE YOU? (GAVEL)

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>> WELL, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, WELCOME TO THE MARCH 15TH, BOARD OF COUNY COMMISSION MEETING. WE'RE STARTING ABOUT RIGHT ON TIME AT 9:00. I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO

CALL THE ROLL. >> CHAIR COMMISSIONER HENRY

DEAN? >> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER PAUL WALDRON? HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH RAY BLOCKER?

>> PRESENT. >> OKAY. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT COMMISSIONER WALDRON IS CALLING IN TODAY, WE'LL BE INVOLVING PAUL THOROUGHLY IN THE COMMISSION MEETING BUT AT A DISTANCE AND WE'LL BE TAKING A VOICE VOTE BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE AUTOMATIC BUTTON WITH PAUL CALLING IN. THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO START THIS MORNING WITH AN INVOCATION AND THEN THE PLEDGE. THE INVOCATION WILL BE BY PASTOR EARLGLISSON.

FATHER, THE CREATOR OF HECK LY - ANDETH. WE PLACE OURSELVES IN THE REMEMBRANCE THAT ARE THE RULER OF ALL. FOR IN THE BEGINNING YOU CREATED MAN BOTH MALE AND FEMALE IN YOUR IMAGE AND LIKENESS AND ENTRUSTED TOP MAN THE DOMINION MANDATE. A DOMINION THAT RESTS SOLELY OBJECT THE OBEDIENCE OF YOUR WILL AND PURPOSE. IN ESSENCE YOU DESIRE TO RULE FROM YOUR REALM TO THIS REALM THROUGH MAN SUBMITTED WITH YOUR SPIRIT. FOR YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT YOUR WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN OUR WASTE AND YOUR THOUGHTS ARE HIGHER THAN OUR THOUGHT. WE ASK FOR YOUR INVOCATION IN GOVERNING THE AFFAIR OF THIS COUNTY. FOR I DID NOT SEEK MY OWN INITIATIVE BUT THE FATHER HIMSELF WHO SENT ME HAS GIVEN ME WHAT TO SAY AND WHAT TO SPEAK. HE UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU, LORD, GIVE WISDOM AND FROM YOUR MOUTH COME KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING. WE HUMBLY COME TODAY IN PRAYER SEEKING YOUR WILL IN ACCORDANCE OF YOUR WILL, YOUR KINGDOM COME THAT WILL BE DONE ONNETH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. I PRAY THAT THE WISDOM FROM ABOVE WHICH IS PURE, PEACEABLE, JABBEDLE, REASONABLE, AND FULL OF MERCY AND GOOD FRUITS, UNWAVING WITHOUT HYPOCRISY. I PRAY THESE MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD OF COUNY COMMISSION WILL HAVE THE SAME DESIRE WHEN MAKING DECISIONS THAT WILL AFFECT AND INFLUENCE THE LIVES OF OUR FELLOW RESIDENTS. MAY THEY SEEK YOUR PURPOSE AND NOT THE PURPOSE OF ANOTHER. I PRAY THAT THEY SEEK DIVINE UNDERSTANDING AND CLARITY, LORD EMPOWER THEM WITH YOUR SPIRIT AND BLESSING AND PROTECTION TOWARDS THEM, THEIR STAFF MEMBERS AND FAMILIES. IN THE NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL." WE'RE GOING TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE GREAT FLAG OF OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL."

[Proclamation Certificate of Recognition to Professional Social Workers in St. Johns County]

>> CHAIR DEAN: THE FIRST, I'M GOING TO CALL UP YOUR NAME, THIS IS A RECOGNITION FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL SOCIAL WORKERS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. MICHELLE, DIANE STRAWBRIDGE, AND JOHNSON GIBSON, AND THEN, REPRESENTATIVES WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS AND I WILL PRESENT THIS

CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION. >> CHAIR DEAN: SO, WITH THAT,

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>> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR DEAN: WE HAVE A PHOTO,

I THINK. >>

[Proclamation Certificate of Recognition to the American Red Cross]

(INDISCERNIBLE) >>

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>> AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE CHRISTIAN SMITH. . WE WANT TO PRESENT YOU THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL WORK THE RED CROSS DOES FOR US IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY,

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MY NAME IS DAVID WILLIAMS, I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE YOU BEFORE, USUALLY WITH A DIFFERENT HAT.

BUT, I GOT TO TELL YOU THIS IS A BUT WE NEED MORE OF YOU. AT - LEAST FOUR MORE. I'LL TAKE FOUR. OKAY. BECAUSE WE COVER ALL OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY 24 HOURS A DAY. AND WE ALSO REACH OUT AND ASSIST OTHER AREAS LIKE OCALA THAT JUST HAD A TORNADO.

AND, SO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT FOLKS STEP UP IF THEY POSSIBLY CAN. OR AT LEAST MAKE A DONATION. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR DEAN: THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

>> (APPLAUSE) >> .

>> CHAIR DEAN: FOR THOSE OF US HERE IN 2016 AND 2017, YOU'LL REMEMBER HOW IMPORTANT, WHAT A ROLE THE RED CROSS PLAYED HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY TO HELP SO MANY PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE MATHEW AND IRMA, IT WAS QUITE A SIGHT TO SEE SO MANY RED CROSS WORKERS GOING THROUGH THERE. I REMEMBER HOW HARD IT WAS HIT SOUTH OF THE BRIDGE AND THEY WERE RIGHT AT EVERYONE'S FRONT DOOR ASKING

[Acceptance of Proclamations]

>>> OKAY. WITH THAT... >> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS.

>> CHAIR DEAN: OKAY. THEY WERE CERTIFICATES, I THINK.

>> FORGIVE ME. >> CHAIR DEAN: WELL, I STARTED IT, I SAID IT WRONG THE FIRST TIME. WE'LL SAY THE CERTIFICATES OF RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION. IS THERE A MOTION, YOU MOTIONED. IS THERE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[Public Safety Update]

>> (CHORUS OF AYES) AND THEY'RE

APPROVED. >> CHAIR DEAN: NOW, WE'RE BACK ON TRACK WE GOT THAT. PUBLIC SAFETY. OKAY. WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO A PROFESSIONAL HERE AND LET THEM CARRY THE BALL.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, COMMISSIONER. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT WE GOT THROUGH ANOTHER TPC WITH NO DRAMA AND VERY LITTLE TRAUMA, IT WENT WELL. A GREAT EVENT FOR OUR COUNTY. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT ORANGE CRUSH AND BIKE WEEK HAS PASSED US BY WITH NO ISSUES GOING ON. OUR JAIL IS UNDER CAPACITY. AND LAST WEEK WE ACHIEVED, ONCE AGAIN, OUR FLORIDA COMMISSIONER FOR CORRECTIONS ACCREDITATION. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE 9TH TIME IN A ROW THAT WE ACHIEVE THAT ACCREDITATION. THAT BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH BEST PRACTICES AND NATIONAL STANDARDS AND I CAN'T BE MORE PROUD OF OUR PEOPLE OF THE CORRECTION'S DIVISION FOR DOING THAT. ANY

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QUESTIONS? >> CHAIR DEAN: QUESTIONS?

>> ALL RIGHT. WELL YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT WEEK AND STAY DRY.

>> CHAIR DEAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM. CHIEF, GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. IN RESPONSE TO THE WILDFIRES THEY WERE IN THE PAN HANDLE AROUND BAY COUNTY, AND PAN IN A MA CITY, THE REGION THREE WHICH IS NORTHEAST FLORIDA WAS ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT TASKS, THE FIRST REQUEST WAS FOR A STRIKE TEAM, THAT CONSISTED AN ENGINE FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE AND THREE ENGINES. AND THEY LEFT SATURDAY AND RETURNED SUNDAY NIGHT. THE SECOND REQUEST CAME IN FOR A TASK FORCE IN THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE, FLAGGLER COUNTY, WE WERE ABLE TO SEND TWO ENGINES AND A TANKER TO HELP FIGHT THE WILDFIRE IN THE PAN HANDLE. TWO. THEY'RE BACK HOME SAFE BUT WE DID RESPOND AT

[Clerk of Court's Report]

A STATE LEVEL. >> CHAIR DEAN: OKAY. CLERK'S

COURT? >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.

>> MARCH 16TH-19 IS GOVERNMENT IN SUNSHINE WEEK. A FUND MENTAL COMPONENT OF GOOD GOVERNMENT. THE CLERK AND COUNT COMPTROLLER PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN ENSURING TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR GOVERNMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REPORT ON OUR WORK TO ENSURE THE GOVERNMENT'S WORK HERE. ACTING AS THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN. THE COMPTROLLER SAID PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE FINANCIAL RECORDS, EXPENSES AND CONTRACTS. WE'RE ESPECIALLY PROUD OF OUR FIRST ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT THAT WE LAUNCHED LAST FALL AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO RELEASING AN UPDATED GUIDE ON ST. JOHNS COUNTY FINANCES FOR 2021 IN LATE SUMMER EARLY FALL. AILS IN THE OFFICE WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL. WHICH OFFERS FRAUD PREVENTION SUCH AS HOTLINES, TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN PLACE TO REPORT ON FRAUD AND WASTE IN COUNT GOVERNMENT. THESE ARE A FEW OF NEARLY 1,000 FUNCTIONS PERFORMED BY OUR OFFICE HIRE AT ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

OUR TEAM AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS COMMITTED TO BEING ACCESSIBLE TO ST. JOHNS RESIDENTS AND ENSURE THAT ACCURACY, INTEGRITY AND CUSTOMER AS FAR AS. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S MY REPORT, ANY

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

QUESTIONS? >> CHAIR DEAN: OKAY. QUESTIONS

TORE BRANDON? >> THANK YOU, BRANDON WE

APPRECIATE AS ALWAYS. >> CHAIR DEAN: NOW, WE'LL GO TO DELETIONS FROM THE CONTENT AGENDA. AND I'LL START WITH

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> NONE.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> NONE MR. CHAIR.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WALDRON ANY DELETIONS TO THE

CONTENT AGENDA? >> NONE MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> NONE.

>> STAFF, I THINK LEGAL HAS A REQUEST TO WITH DRAW AN ITEM.

>> A REVENUE BOND FROM FLAG HEALTH.

>> CHAIR DEAN: ITEM 18 IS WITH DRAWN, I WILL APPROVE THAT WITH A MOTION. LET'S TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT AGENDA AT

THIS TIME. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> ED SLAVIN. I AGREE WITH PULLING ITEM 18, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO THAT ANYWAY. NEVER AGAIN SHOULD YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT LARGE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S $330 MILLION. WHY WOULD THAT EVER BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR LITTLE STUFF. I SUGGEST THAT YOU DO ADD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, EITHER THIS ONE OR THE FUTURE, HAVING A RESOLUTION UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE 127.0363 REQUIRING THE PUBLIC OFFICERS TO SUBMIT THEIR TENTATIVE BUDGETS MAY 1ST, SO

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

>> CHAIR DEAN: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION.

>> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIR DEAN: WE HAVE A MOTION

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IN-PERSON. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> YES. >> CHAIR DEAN: AND I VOTE YES.

SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. LET'S TURN OUR ATTENTION TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. I'VE HAD A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT ON ITEM 14. 14, YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM MARCH 1ST, IS THE ISSUE WITH THE GEO TUBE HOMEOWNERS AND A REQUEST TO ENTER AGREEMENT. I'VE HAD A REQUEST THAT THAT ITEM BE WITHDRAWN TODAY, THEY'RE HAVING ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PLANTATION, SO WE'LL TAKE 14 OFF OF THE AGENDA. WITH THAT SAID, WE ALSO -- I HAD ASKED THE STAFF TO LET AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW AS POSSIBLE THAT WE WILL TAKE ITEM 16, THE ARPA PLAN UP AS A TIME CERTAIN AT 10:00 A.M. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF REQUESTS TO SPEAK AND FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS, I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO INVITE EVERYONE AT 10:00 A.M., RATHER THAN AN UNCERTAIN TIME THAT COULD GO ALL DAY. WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM 16 AT 10:00 THIS MORNING. WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES ARE THERE NY OTHER CHANGES OR DISCUSSIONS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA? MR. ARNOLD?

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

>> NO, SIR. >> NO, SIR.

>> CHAIR DEAN: PAUL ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR CHANGES?

>> NO, SIR. >> CHAIR DEAN: OKAY. WITH THAT SAD, WE WILL TAKE UP THE FIRST ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'M

[1. Public Hearing * CPA (SS) 2021-19 Pacetti Burchfield Family.]

ITEM ONE. >> GOOD MORNING. FOR THE RECORD, DOUGLAS BURNETT, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP. IT'S A PLEASURE TO GET TO BE HERE ON A PACETTI RELATED PROJECT. I'LL SHOW YOU THE HISTORY, IT'S FASCINATING, I'LL GIVE YOU THE IDEA OF THE LOCATION KIND OF IN THE NORTH TO MIDDLE PART OF THE COUNTY, ZOOMING IN CLOSER, YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE SITE IS DOWN ON THE LEFT. NORTH OF THE AIRPORT. AND WE'RE AT IGP. THE ACCESS IS OFF OF IGP, VIA ST. MARK'S BOND BOULEVARD WHICH MANY OF US KNOW TO BE AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF SITE. LOOKING AT THIS AREA RIGHT AT THE CORNER, YOU COULD SEE THE PUBLIC SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS THE STREET THAT SERVES PALENCIA. LOOKING AT THE ENTRANCE OF ST. MARK'S POND BOULEVARD, YOU COULD SEE AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE SITE IN GENERAL. LOOKING TOWARDS THE MIDDLE, YOU COULD SEE THE WEIGH STATION PUT IN RELATED TO THE ONE RECYCLING FACILITY BACK THERE. AND IF WE ZOOM IN ON OUR SITE IN THIS LOCATION, YOU GET TO WHERE YOU SEE, LOOSELY, WHAT LOOKS LIKE AN OLD SCHOOL SUBDIVISION. A SUBDIVISION OF LAND WHERE FOLKS DIVIDED LOTS SMALLER AND SMALLER TO CREATE HOMESITES. YOU COULD SEE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, WHICH IS TO MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL A ON THE SITE. AS I WALK THROUGH THIS, YOU'LL SEE QUICKLY WHY THE FAMILY DESIRES THIS. YOU COULD SEE THIS SITE HERE IS OWNED BY MICHAEL BIRCHFIELD. THIS SITE IS PATRICK PACETTI, AND EDWARD PACETTI HERE IN THIS AREA. THE INTERESTING THING IS LOOKS LIKE 1-ACRE LOTS, BUT THE INTERESTING THING IS THE STORY THAT'S TOLD, THE PACETTI FAMILY'S BEEN IN THIS LOCATION SINCE ABOUT 1927.

AND, THE PORTION HERE THAT'S IN OUR JUSTIFICATION. I DIDN'T WRITE THIS, THE PACETTI FAMILY GAVE IT TO ME. TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO RUNNING WATER AND THEY HAD NO HEAT, AND IT'S NEAT TO HAVE THAT PASSED DOWN GENERATION TO GENERATION.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD HOMESITES FOR

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DENSITY. >> CHAIR DEAN: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? PAUL ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NOT AT THIS TIME. >> CHAIR DEAN: OKAY, WE'LL TAKE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 1. ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE

COMMENT. >> CHAIR DEAN: WELL, THIS IS IN DISTRICT FIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022-16 APPROVING CPASS 2021-19, FOR THE PACETTI FAMILY TO CHANGE 8.6 ACRES OF LAND FROM RULE SILVER CULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL A BASED UPON THE FOREFINDINGS OF FACTS PROVIDED BY THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIR DEAN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND NOW A VOICE VOTE ON THIS ITEM. COMMISSIONER

WALDRON? >> YES.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> YES, SIR. >> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER

[2. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-36 205 Commercial Drive Rezoning.]

WHITEHURST? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> CHAIR DEAN: AND I VOTE YES, ALSO, THAT PASSES 5-0. AND NOW GOING TO ITEM 2. ITEM 2. IS IN

DISTRICT 2. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. CARNE TAYLOR, 77 SARAH GASA STREET. AN WITH ME IS MMARK BICKERS. . AS FOR THAT, SO, YOU'VE ACTUALLY HEARD SOME OF THIS BEFORE WHEN WE CAME IN TO DISCUSS THE FREEDOM BOAT

CLUB WITH YOU. >> CHAIR DEAN: APPARENTLY, ITEM TWO IS A QUASI JUDICIAL MY MISTAKE. I HAVE TO ASK, SO HOLD

ON A SECOND. >> JERIMIAH, ANY QUASI-JUDICIAL

ON ITEM TWO? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE A RECORD OF ANY SPECIFIC MEETING ON THIS.

>> WE WERE MEETING ON THE FREEDOM BOAT CLUB.

>> DO YOU REMEMBER THE DATE AND TIME?

>> I DON'T. >> I HAVE NO RECOGNLLECTION OF

THIS. >> SAME THING, WE SPOKE ABOUT IT IN THE FREFREEDOM BOAT CLUB DISCUSSION.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> I'M IN THE SAME POSITION AS THE OTHER TWO, OBVIOUSLY, I REMEMBER DISCUSSING THIS, AND I REMEMBER THAT MEET SUNSHINE ON

RECORD WITH STAFF. >> CHAIR DEAN: GOOD BUN. BEING

A GOOD PUN. >> CHAIR DEAN: SARAH?

>> YES, I'M IN THE SAME BOAT. I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT IT, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE FREEDOM BOAT CLUB BUT, I DON'T RECALL THE

SAME DATE AND TIME. >> CHAIR DEAN: WELL, ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS ARE IN THE SAME BOAT.

>> I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD HAVE PULLED IT UP.

>> CHAIR DEAN: I'M NOT SURE, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A DATE FOR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH YOU. WITH THAT

SAID, KAREN, GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> SO, AS I SAID, MMARK BICKER IS WITH ME TODAY. THIS IS DIFFERENT, THIS IS NINE ACRES IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK. IT'S ACCESS IS COMMERCIAL DRIVE, AND IT INTERSECTING WITH AGRICULTURAL CENTER DRIVE AS YOU COULD SEE IN THIS GENERAL LOCATION. AND IT HAS ACCESS TO 95 AND 208 AND STATE ROAD 16. THE PORTION NOT DEVELOPED IS ALREADY CLEARED, THERE'S EXISTING OFFICE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES ON THE MAJOR PORTION OF IT, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL PORTION THEY WOULD BE ADDING TO IT. THIS IS DEFINITELY COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS AROUND THE AREA AND OTHER SOME VACANT PIECES AND A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL PIECES. IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A MIXED USE AREA AND AS YOU COULD SEE, THAT PRETTY

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THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY USED RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING EAST TO WEST ALONG COMMERCIAL DRIVE, TO SHOW YOU THE OTHER ACTIVITIES, THERE'S OFFICE NORTH OF THE OPPOSITE SIDE. AS YOU GET TOWARDS THE INTERSTATE I-95, YOU GET THE BUSINESS TYPE THINGS AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL LOG CABIN SALES AND THE CRACKER BARREL, AND THIS IS THE ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL DRIVE, FROM AG CECENTER DRIVE. A LOT THESE WERE REPLACED WHEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS PASSED. THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR IN PLACE BUT THEY'RE IN PLACE THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RATHER THAN BY A SPECIAL CONDITIONAL. THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS STILL APPLICABLE, WHICH IS THE HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES. AND ANYTHING BY EXCEPTION OR SPECIAL USE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING RE PLANNING AND ZONING THERE'S MINIMUM COVERAGE, WASTE DISPOSAL WHICH WAS A CONCERN BEFORE, IS ALSO HANDLED WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THERE WAS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THERE WAS A SITE PLAN REVIEW THAT HAD TO GO THROUGH PZA. IT'S THE HYBRID ZONING WHICH ALLOWS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND IT HAS A VARIETY OF USES, IT HAS CI BUT NOT OTHER COMMERCIAL USES. IT'S LOGICAL IN THIS LOCATION, THERE'S A MIXTURE OF USES IN THAT AREA AND IT IS A MIXED USE INDUSTRIAL PARK. WE'LL COMPLY WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, POLICY, AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMP PLAN AND PZA RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND WE'RE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL AND I'M

HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> CHAIR DEAN: ANY QUESTIONS ON TWO? OKAY. WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENT ON TWO.

>> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM TWO, ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON 2.

>> IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM TWO.

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN, IF YOU WILL LIKE ME TO READ THAT INTO

THE RECORD. >> CHAIR DEAN: SURE.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST MET ON JANUARY 11TH AT 1130.

COMMISSIONER WALDRON JANUARY 13TH AT 11:30 COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, JANUARY 13TH AT 2:00 P.M. AND COMMISSIONER DEAN JANUARY 13TH. AT 230.

>> CHAIR DEAN: THAT YOU CAN, IS THERE A MOTION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A ORDINANCE TO ENACT 2022, 17, APPROVING RESIDENTIAL 2021-205 COMMERCIAL DRIVE REZONING BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED PIE THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> CHAIR DEAN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. NOW A VOTE. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> YES. >> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER

[3. Public Hearing * MAJMOD21-18 Pacetti Road Plaza PUD.]

WALDRON? >> YES.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> YES. >> .

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> YES. >> CHAIR DEAN: AND I VOTE

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THREE. >> AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO 3.

TILE START ON ITEM 3 EX-PARTE, COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF A MEETING ON

THIS ITEM. >> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER

WALDRON? >> I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FORMAL MEETING BUT, I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS FROM DOUGLAS BURNETT AND HE DISCUSSED THIS ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROJECT BUT NOT DISCUSS THINGS IN PARTICULAR AND IT WAS VERY SHORT CONVERSATIONS. I TOLD HIM ABOUT EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED THAT WERE NEGATIVE FOR THE PROJECT. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE THERE.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> YES, SIR, YESTERDAY I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH DOUGLAS BURNETT AT 2:54 P.M., AND THE CALL LASTED 8 MINUTES, WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF AGENDA ITEMS BUT WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOR TWO, OR TWO AND-A-HALF MINUTES, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT'S ALREADY TITLED ON THIS PARCEL AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THE OPPOSITION THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY BY E-MAIL.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> YESTERDAY I SPOKE WITH DOUGLAS BURNETT ON THE PHONE AT 2:30 WE DISCUSSED THE VARIOUS UNITS AND CAPACITY ON THE PARCEL AND I TOLD HIM ABOUT SEVERAL OF THE EMAILS I HAD RECEIVED IN

OPPOSITION. >> CHAIR DEAN: AND YESTERDAY, AROUND 4:00, I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH DOUGLAS BURNETT COVERING BASICALLY THE SAME ISSUES THAT COMMISSIONER WALDRON SPOKE ABOUT, THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES CURRENTLY ALLOWED ON THE PROJECT AND THE DIFFERENT STRUCTURAL ISSUES OF THE PROJECT AND THAT WAS IT. SO, WITH THAT SAID, WE NOW WILL HAVE THE APPLICANT ON ITEM THREE.

>> DOUGLAS BURNETT, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP ONE 04 SEA BREEZE MAIN STREET. THIS IS A MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING PUD BEING REQUESTED. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S THERE AND BUILT AND ■ WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. YOU COULD SEE LOCATION HERE IT'S OFF OF PACETTI ROAD. PACETTI ROAD. YOU COULD SEE A LITTLE BETTER LOCATION HERE. THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE OVERALL PUD THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO ADDRESS AND MODIFY A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK, YOU COULD SEE IN THIS PICTURE, THERE'S MOBILE HOME ON THE NORTH PART OF THE SITE AND THEN ON THE LEFT PART OF THE SITE OR NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE, THERE ARE THE TWO VET BUILDINGS. THE BUILDING THAT'S LOWER ON THE SCREEN IS THE ACTUAL VET OFFICE.

THE BUILDING NORTH ON THE SCREEN IS A BOARDING TYPE OF A FACILITY FOR PETS. THE APPROVED PROJECT, THIS IS THE MAP OBVIOUSLY RECORDED IN THE SYSTEM ALREADY, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE CURRENTLY FROM THE STREET VIEW AND YOU COULD SEE IN THIS LOCATION, THE ENTRY SIGN FOR THE PET SPA. THIS IS THE MAIN BIG PET SPA BUILDING, AND YOU GOT BOARDING, GROOMING, THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY GOING ON. AND THEN A BUILDING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS BUILDING WHICH WOULD BE THE VET'S OFFICE, SLIGHTLY SMALLER SIMILAR TIME LAYOUT AND ENTRANCE. THE OVERALL PROJECT LOOKS LIKE THIS IF I PUT THE AERIAL OVER THE TWO BUILDINGS AS APPROVED ON THE CONCERNED PUD MAP YOU COULD SEE TWO OFFICES AND THEN YOU SEE FOUR BUILDINGS THAT EQUAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES. AND IT'S A WIDE VARIETY OF NEIGHBORHOOD USE, THE PUD EVEN CALLS OUT MICRO BREWERIES AND BREW PUBS AS POTENTIAL USES.

YOU HAVE A HUGE LIST OF POTENTIAL GENERAL USES, RESTAURANTS, PHARMACIES, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN OUR MODIFICATION, YOU COULD SEE THE BUILDING, THE EXISTING BUILDING, AGAIN LAYING THAT AERIAL IN ON THE MAP BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE VET OFFICES ARE THERE AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT. BUT, YOU COULD SEE WE CHANGED THE CONFIGURATION OUT FRONT TO BE A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY, THREE BUILDINGS, ONE INTERNALLY, AIR CONDITIONED, MODERN BUILDING AND TWO OF THE TRADITIONAL LOW, ONE-STORY SELF STORAGE BUILDINGS. YOU COULD SEE A POND TO THE NORTH AND ONE ADDED FEATURE ADDED IS A DOG WALK SO IT PRESERVES THE ABILITY FOR FOLKS, NOT JUST THE STAFF AT THE VET'S OFFICE BUT NEIGHBORS AND

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SO, GOOD CLARIFYING POINT. A GOOD VETTING PROCESS GOING THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING BEFORE GETTING HERE TODAY AND WE MADE THAT CLARIFICATION IN THE PUD TEXT AND SUBMITTED THAT TO STAFF AND IT'S IN YOUR PACKET, I BELIEVE. THAT'S REALLY IT.

PLANNING AND ZONING GAVE US A 5-1 RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL ON THE CLARIFICATION THAT WE MADE FOR THE PROJECT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL STOP TALKING, THE OVERALL PROJECT, YOU COULD SEE THE FINAL RESULT OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

>> CHAIR DEAN: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BURNET?

>> NONE? >> CHAIR DEAN: PUBLIC COMMENT

ON ITEM THREE. >> YES, SIR, AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 3. PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA

ITEM THERE. >> YES, MA'AM. PLEASE STATE

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS PEGGY HUTCH INSON. I WANT TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M BEFORE THE BOARD AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW OUR COUNTY OPERATES AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THE COUNTY. I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY RIGHT THERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS MANY KNOW THERE'S ONE ROAD IN AND ONE ROAD OUT. AND WE HAVE THE PACETTI BAY BAY MIDDLE SCHO RIGHT NEAR THIS PROPERTY. MY CONCERN IS FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN, KEEPING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE, BEHIND IT BESIDE IT. OUR BORDER OF OUR PROPERTY WHERE WE MAINTAIN WILL BE RIGHT UP AGAINST THIS SELF-STORAGE FACILITY SO, I HAD CONCERNS

REGARDING THAT. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. >> CHUCK LEBONOWSKI. I'VE GOT A MAP UP THERE THAT SHOWS THE CURRENT FACILITIES OPERATING NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONES IN GREEN, THOSE ARE THE ONES ONES CURRENTLY OPERATING. THE YELLOW ONE IS THE AAA OPENING IN SPRING EARLY SUMMER, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE U-HAUL, THOSE ARE TWO MASSIVE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY IN PLANNING NOW. AND THE SQUARE BOX, BLACK SQUARE BOX IS THE PROPOSED THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. RUNS BELOW PART OF

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U-HAUL, THIS IS OVER 16 AND 16 A ACROSS THE STREET FROM ACE, AND THAT'S OVER A THOUSAND UNITS AND AGAIN, THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE ATLANTIC OVER BY THE OUTLET MALLS. U-HAUL STORAGE OVER ROUTE 1 SOUTH OF IGP ON ROUTE ONE. THAT'S A 5-STORY PLAN FOR THAT ONE. THAT'S GOING TO BE MASSIVE. WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 1500 UNITS FOR THAT SPECIFIC FACILITY.

>> MR. LEBONOWSKI. THAT'S 3 MINUTES.

>> GOOD MORNING. ED SLAVEN. I AGREE WITH THE FIRST TWO SPEAKERS, SHE'S STORAGE UNIT ARE UGLY AS SIN. I WOULD LIKE TO INQUIRE TO THE CHAIR, WHY AREN'T WE GIVEN TRANSCRIPTS OF THE PCA MEETINGS? THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF TIME TO GET A COURT REPORT TRANSCRIPT DONE. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SPLIT DECISION ON A PCA, WE'RE NOT TOLD WHAT VOTED WHICH WAY AND WHAT THE THINKING WAS BY THE PERSON WHO VOTED AGAINST. THIS SHOULD NOT BE THIS CUT AND DRY. THIS ENTIRE PROCESS LACKS RIGGER, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD REQUIRE TRANSCRIPTS AND REMAND THIS BACK TO PCA AND LET THEM BE HEARD AND STATE THE REASONS. WE'RE NOT EVEN TOLD BY THE STAFF ANYMORE WHAT THE REASONS WERE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DESCENTED. IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO ALLOW DESCENT, WE MUST DEMAND IT. WE DESCENT FROM THE WILLFUL HEEDLESS DESTRUCTION OF NATURAL BEAUTY. OUR ZONING CODE NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED TO ADDRESS

THEM. AND I THANK YOU. >> CHAIR DEAN: THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT TRANSCRIPTS, I'LL LOOK INTO IT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK I MAY HAVE SUGGESTED IT A TIME OR

TWO. >> CHAIR DEAN: I JUST DON'T KNOW BUT I'LL LOOK AT IT AND GET BACK TO YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YES, MA'AM. WELCOME. >> BJ, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU GET ALL THE FACTS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEVELOPERS AND THEIR LAWYER GIVE ALL THE FACTS WHENEVER THEY'RE SPEAKING WITH COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THIS AREA.

AND, IF YOU LOOK AROUND, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR

NEIGHBORHOOD? >> YOU LOOK AT 312 AND ON THE CORNER ACROSS FROM THE MCDONALD'S, WE HAVE THE BIG ONE IN THERE RIGHT NEXT TO AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING AND IT SEEMS TO ME WE NEED TO LISTEN TOO, ABOUT INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY THERE'S A LOT OF ACCIDENTS UP THERE, IF YOU LISTEN ON THE RADIO, THERE'S BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF ACCIDENTS.

AND MAY BE WE COULD ASK FOR THAT REPORT. BUT, THE THING IS TOO, THERE SEEMS TO BE A REAL NEED, ALL OF A SUDDEN IN THIS COUNTY FOR THESE SELF-STORAGE FACILITIES BECAUSE PEOPLE COME DOWN AND THEY RENT OR BUY A CONDO OR A TOWN HOUSE AND THEY HAVE ALL OF THIS STUFF. THE STUFF WON'T BE STUFFED IN THE CONDOS OR TOWN HOMES, IT'S BEING STUFFED ALL OVER THE COUNTY IN THESE STORAGE FACILITIES. AND I THINK SOMETHING'S WRONG. BUT THAT'S JUST ME LISTENING TO THIS PRESENTATION, I DIDN'T GET THE

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PASS THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 3. SEEING NONE, CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM THREE.

>> CHAIR DEAN: THANK YOU. MR. BURNET, ANY RESPONSE?

>> WE HAD A MEETING AND NO ONE ATTENDED FROM THE PUBLIC. I THINK THAT THE BIGGER ISSUE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND HOPEFULLY, I COULD GO BACK TO THIS. I THINK THAT THE STORY'S TOLD WITH THE DIFFERENCE OF THE USES ALLOWED AND THE USES PROPOSED. AND, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A VET OFFICE AND PET PLACE ALREADY THERE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S THERE AND TAKE THAT EXAMPLE OF THE STORAGE FACILITY AT A 1 A AND 312, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, THE NEW BUILDING BUILT, SPANISH ARCHITECTURE, AND STYLE, I THINK THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY INDUSTRY HAVE GONE IN A DIRECTION BY THEMSELVES AND VERY SIMILAR OR AKIN TO THE CONVENIENT STORES AND GAS STATIONS. IF YOU LOOK BACK 10-20 YEARS AGO, CONVENIENT STORES WERE BLOCK BUILDING, NO ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND THE INDUSTRY ITSELF HAS GONE TO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY. IT'S NOT REGULATION BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT GOT THEM THERE. AS YOU SEE IN SELF STORAGE, AS ONE OF THE SLIDES SHOWED THE SELF-STORAGE INDUSTRY ARE REGULATING THEMSELVES. AS FAR AS THIS USE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE 312 A1A USE, THOSE NEIGHBORS LIVING IN LION'S GATE, I WOULD SUBMIT WOULD A HAVE MORE PROBLEM SHALL WITH NOISE, NUISANCE AND LIGHTS AND THE LIKE THAN THEY WOULD THAN IF THE SELF STORAGE IS THERE. THE KEY TO SELF-STORAGE IS THAT PEOPLE FEEL SAFE IN THE BUILDINGS. THEY'RE LOW TRIP GENERATORS FOR TRAFFIC, THEY'RE LOW FOR SECURITY AND CRIME, THERE ARE LOCALES FOR SERVICE TO THOSE LOCATIONS AND WHAT THE COUNTY GET IN RESPONSE IS HIGH TAX REVENUE AND HIGH VALUE. IF THIS WEREN'T APPROVED AS SELF STORAGE YOU'RE GOING TO GET MEDICAL USES, RESTAURANTS, THE NOISE AND THINGS THAT CAN GO ON THERE, RETAIL, A LOT MORE PARKING, A LOT MORE TRIPS. THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR THIS, AND YOU SAY, WELL, A SCHOOL'S BEHIND IT, ALL THE BETTER. BECAUSE, WHAT HAPPENS WITH, FOR EXAMPLE A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A PHARMACY THAT COULD BE ON THIS SITE, THE VAGRANTSY AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO ON THERE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT WITH A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY. JUST THE TRIP VOLUME ALONE AT THIS LOCATION IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. HOW MUCH IT REDUCES FROM 2900. AND I SAW SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION WHERE IT RELATED TO TRAFFIC. THIS IS A GREAT REASON TO APPROVE THIS IS JUST THE TRAFFIC REDUCTION OF THE POTENTIAL 2900 TRIPS. WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE FACILITY WOULD LOOK

LIKE? >> NO, BECAUSE THIS IS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT DON'T REQUIRE RENDERINGS, OR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. WE DO MEET ALL THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS. IF I GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, YOU COULD SEE THERE'S A LITTLE EXTRA SPACING HERE AND YOU COULD SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT AND WHERE THE SITE

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NORTHWEST SECTOR. >> SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I WAS GETTING FROM RESIDENTS WERE THE BUFFER.

>> I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST I COULD GO BACK THROUGH HERE, BUT I THINK THAT I COULD SHOW YOU THE STREET-LEVEL VIEW. THERE IS TALLER VEGETATION AT THIS AREA, SO YOU WOULD GET NATURAL BUFFERING IN PLACE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE FRESH PLANTING THERE. AND SOME OF IT SHOULD BE OUTSIDE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND I THINK AT THE END OF IT, I HAVE A VIEW OF THE ROADSIDE. YOU COULD SEE THE BUFFERING ON THE MIDDLE LANE, THAT'S PART OF THE DRY.

YOU COULD SEE THE CHURCH HERE. SO, FROM METAL ARK LANE FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK, LET'S SEE THIS IS COMING FROM METAL ARK LANE TOWARDS PACETTI AND HERE IS THE EXISTING VET OFFICE, THAT'S HARD TO SEE BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY HAVE THE BERM AND THE SIGNIFICANT BUFFER FROM THAT DIRECTION. OKAY.

>> IF THERE AREN'T ANYMORE QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM 3 IS THERE

A MOTION? IS >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MOVE. I MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022-18, MAG MODIFICATION BASED

UPON THE FINDING OF FACTS. >> CHAIR DEAN: IS THERE A

SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND.

>> CHAIR DEAN: VOICE VOTE, COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> YES. >> CHAIR DEAN: OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? >> NO.

>> CHAIR DEAN: I'M SORRY? >> NO.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

[4. Public Hearing * CPA (SS) 2021-18 6075 Winifred Masters.]

>> WYES. >> CHAIR DEAN: AND I VOTE YES,

SO THAT PASSES 4-1. >> I THINK, LET'S TRY TO GET TO ITEM FOUR AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE 10:00 TIME CERTAIN. ITEM 4.

>> MORNING COMMISSIONERS, RYAN WESTOVER, TODAY'S QUESTION IS FOR THE CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURE TO A. WE BOUGHT IT 5 YEARS AGO.

IT'S 3.9 ACRES AND WE WANT TO SUBOFF ONE ACRE TO SELL OFF AND MAINTAIN THE 2.9 ACRES FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE. SO, LET'S SEE IF I COULD PULL THIS UP HERE. I GUESS THE AERIAL POWER POINTS WILL NOT WORK TODAY. THERE WERE FOUR SENT OVER, AND I GUESS THAT WAS ME THAT FOULED THAT UP. THERE WE GO. VERY NICE. ALL RIGHT. SO, AS YOU COULD SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THERE, 3.9 ACRES, LOCATED ON MOCMOCCASIN BRANCH. D YOU COULD SEE THE BARN. YEP, SO THERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND IT'S ALL OPEN ZONING AND APPARENTLY LAND USE IS AGRICULTURUAL BUT THE RESA WOULD I LOU FOR THE DRILLING ONCE COMPLETED. HERE'S MY SURVEY DONE SHOWING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AFTER IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE. CURRENTLY, THE DWELLING IS HERE BUT I WILL BE BUILDING ON THE FRONT, THIS IS WINIFRED MASTERS HERE. AND THE REMAINING PARCEL WOULD BE 2.9 ACRES, A

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>> CHAIR DEAN: ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. SIR, PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HERE PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEM FOUR, ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA

ITEM FOUR. >> CHAIR DEAN: OKAY. IS THERE

A MOTION? >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A OH MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022 APPROVING CPASS 2021-19 APPROVING 2021-18, 6075, WINIFRED MASTERS.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> YES. >> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER

BLOCKER? >> YES, SIR.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> YES. >> AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> AND I VOTE YES SO THAT PASSES. I HAVE A COUPLE OF

[16. St. Johns County American Rescue Plan Act Funding Appropriation Plan Phase II.]

THE ARPA PLAN. SO, CONRAD. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU SEE, AGENDA 16 IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING APPROPRIATION PLAN PHASE TWO. SO, I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS. PHASE TWO. IT JUST AS A WAY OF BACKGROUND FOR THOSE OF YOU ON THE BOARD AND THOSE OF YOU NOT ON THE BOARD AND THOSE IN THE PUBLIC NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, CONGRESS APPROVED AN APPROXIMATE $2 TRILLION PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDES $362 BILLION IN STATE AND LOCAL FUNDING AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA WAS GIVEN $195 BILLION OF THAT. THE LOCAL PROCESSING IS APPROXIMATELY $130 MILLION CALLY DIVIDED AND THE COUNTY SHARE OF POPULATION SO, THE AMOUNT THAT WE GET IS BASED ON OUR POPULATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO, WE'RE ESTIMATED TO RECEIVE $51.3 MILLION. RECEIVE THE FIRST HALF NEXT YEAR AND BY LAW, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO RECEIVE THE NEXT HALF WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF THE THE CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE IS ESTIMATED TO RECEIVE $6.5 MILLION, AND WE'RE ESTIMATED TO GET THAT FUNDING AND FLOWS DOWN TO THE STATE TO THE COUNTY. THE FUNDS NEED TO BE ENCUMBERED BY THE 31ST OF DECEMBER 2024 AND ALL BE SPENT DOWN BY THE 31ST OF DECEMBER 2026. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PLAN APPROPRIATED BY DEESE 31, 2024 AND THE FUNDS NEED TO BE SPENT BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. WE RECEIVED OUR PHASE ONE FUNDING LAST YEAR ON AUGUST 9TH. AGAIN, THE DEADLINE FOR IT TO BE SPENT AND FUNDING IS ISSUED IN TWO INSTALLMENTS WHICH I MENTIONED. THE FIRST RECEIVED AND THE SECOND IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE RECEIVED TO THE COUNTY WITHIN 12 MONTHS, SO WE SHOULD BE GETTING THAT BETWEEN JULY AND AUGUST AND MAY BE SOONER DEPENDING ON THE STATE.

>> A QUICK RECAP OF THE FIRST PHASE YOU APPROPRIATED, THIS WAS THE FIRST $8.8 MILLION, $1.79 MILLION WENT TO THE VACCINATION SITE WHICH YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF. THAT WAS A REIMBURSEMENT TO THE VACCINATION SITE AVENUE ONE$.397 MILLION.

THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM, AS YOU KNOW THAT WAS A PROGRAM ESTABLISHED BY Y'ALL WITH THE SUPPORT OF STAFF TO GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND AND MITIGATE FOR COVID-19 PRIMARILY TOWARDS OUTSIDE IMPROVEMENTS OF THEIR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. AND PARKS, PUBLIC PLAZAS AND RECREATIONAL SPACES WERE APPROPRIATED $3.67 MILLION. THERE'S A LIST WE COULD PROVIDE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR TO YOU ALL AS WELL. SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE IN PLACE, SOME ARE ONGOING AND SOME OUT FOR DESIGN.

BUT THOSE ARE BUDGETED FOR AND ALLOCATED FOR THE $3.7 MILLION.

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THIS, I WILL TELL YOU IS A SCALED BACK VERSION OF AN ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM. ENTERPRISE PLANNING SYSTEM. WE'RE APPROACHING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BEGIN THIS SYSTEMS AND PLANNING AND IF ANY FUNDING WERE NEEDED WE WOULD TRY AND PLAN THAT FOR FUTURE BUDGET CYCLES. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR, IT'S NOT JUST A COMPUTER SOFTWARE SYSTEM, IT'S MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN THAT. INCLUDED IN THAT, THE CLERK OF COURT AND ELECTIONS, ALSO USE THE SYSTEM. PAY ROLL IS DONE THROUGH THE COUNTY, INVOICES, THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IS THE ACCOUNTS, AND THING BUDGET OFFICE HANDLES ALT ALL OF THAT.

THERE'S NO COORDINATION IN SOFTWARE SYSTEMS, THE BIG ONE THAT I WILL SAY WE HAVE HEARD FROM DAY ONE SINCE THE AMERICAN

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I HAVE HEARD IT FROM DOZENS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITIES.

SPECIFICALLY, THE HASTINGS WATER AND WASTEEWATER, THE PREMIUM PAPER AND THE IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM, ARE THINGS THAT YOU CHAMPIONED AS A BOARD TO TAKE CARE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN AIR OF IN THE PAST. THESE ARE ALLOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE. I WANT TO TOUCH QUICKLY ON THE LAST ONE, THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM. WE INCLUDED ANOTHER $500,000, BECAUSE THE FIRST PROGRAM IS SO YOU SUCCESSFUL TH THERE'S A WAITING LIST ON THIS TO HELP DO THINGS TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC CRISIS. PREMIUM PAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, TAKING CARE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, THIS GOES ALONG WITH THIS. MOVING ON JUST A SECOND, GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOP AND SURVEY, ON THE 22ND, STAFF HELD A WORKSHOP, I KNOW MANY OF YOU WERE THERE, WE RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ONLINE SURVEY RECEIVED 240 RESPONSES.

BETWEEN THAT AND THE SURVEY, WE GOT SEVERAL HUNDRED RESPONSES.

MANY OF THOSE SURVEY RESPONSES OVERLAP. A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GOT WAS INDICATED TOWARDS THE WEST AWING AUGUSTINE MEDICAL CENTER. I WILL SAY GOING FORWARD THAT IT WOULD BE MY INTENT WHEN WE BRING BACK A PHASE THREE OR PHASE FOUR IS TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND DEVELOP ONE BIG PROGRAM. BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DOZENS AND DOZENS, AND DOZENS, AND DOZENS, OF INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS FOR MILLIONS, AND MILLIONS, AND MILLIONS, OF DOLLARS FOR SOME OF THEM. I'M GETTING READY TO SHOW YOU THE REMAINING FUNDS LEFT IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.

HERE'S THE REMAINING ARPA FUNDS. IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THE ALLOCATION TODAY, THAT WOULD BE $28 MILLION SPENT AND THERE WOULD BE REMAINING FUNDS OF $22 MILLION. WE DO NOT HAVE THE PLAN AND THE PHASE ALREADY SET UP FOR PHASE THREE OR WE WOULD BE PRESENTING THAT TODAY. AS I TOLD YOU IN PHASE ONE IT WOULD BE 6-9 MONTHS BEFORE WE CAME BACK WITH PHASE TWO. SO, LIKELY WE WOULD COME BACK IN 3-6 MONTHS FOR PHASE THREE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS TO BE CONSIDERED. FOR INSTANCE, THE HAND HELD RADIOS THAT ALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT USES ARE AT END OF LIFE CONTRACT. THAT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND HAVE TO BE REPLACED TO THE TUNE OF $12 MILLION. WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GATHERING INFORMATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, HOW LONG THAT WOULD LAST FOR. WE BELIEVE IT'S A 8-10 YEAR SPAN OF LIFE. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS NUMBER ONE, AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS ARE FUNDED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. THE REMAINING AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN DOLLARS, WE HAVE TO CREATE A PROMISE AND COME BACK WITH A POT OF MONEY THAT COULD BE DISTRIBUTED EQUITABLY AMONG THE ORGANIZATIONS ASKING. WE WOULD PROVIDE WHAT THE GRANT PROGRAM WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THAT WOULD BE THE TO THE TUNE OF SEVERAL MILLION DOLLAR. ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT A VOCATION ALPHA SILT THAT WOULD PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ON HASTINGS HIGH AND HAVE VOCATION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THAT'S A HUGE RESOURCE AND COST IN THE

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SO, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AS PASCHEN AS POSSIBLE, AND WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU ALL IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TO SEE. I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE DOLLARS SPENT ON.

SO, HERE'S A POTENTIAL BOARD MOTION AND I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR YOU AND I'M STANDING BY FOR QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

MS. ANDREWS IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS. AND OUR CONSULTANT WHO IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING TO FEDERAL LAW AND THE PROJECT MANAGER IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED THE HASTINGS WATER AND WASTEWATER CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

>> CHAIR DEAN: ANY QUESTIONS? >> MR. CONRAD, I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION, FOR PHASE THREE, YOU MENTIONED THREE ITEMS, HOW MUCH OF THAT REMAINING $22 MILLION WILL BE SPENT IF THOSE THREE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GIVING US A HEAD'S UP ON ARE APPROVED. WHAT WOULD BE THE BALANCE LEFTOVER?

>> SHOWING YOU RIGHT NOW, THERE'S REMAINING FUNDS OF $22 MILLION. LET ME START WITH THE HAND-HELDS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY HAND-HELDS THEY HAVE TO USE. DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT LANDS, BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IT'S A $10 MILLION. THERE YOU GO, IT'S A $10 MILLION. THE VOCATION ALPHA SILT IS $7 MILLION. AS IT STANDS TODAY, THAT'S $17 MILLION AND THAT LEAVES YOU WITH 4-$5 MILLION TO DEVELOP A GRANT PROGRAM FOR BEHAVIORAL SERVICES. AND SO, WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN SHAVE COSTS, WHERE WE COULD BRING DOWN ESPECIALLY ON THE HAND-HELDS, IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO BRING THAT DOWN.

ADDITIONALLY, THE VOC VOCATIONAL FACILITY. TO HELP THE COMMUNITY PUT PEOPLE IN TRADE'S WORK. SO, THE RESPONSE TO THE LACK OF TRADESMEN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE NON-PROFIT PROGRAM AS IT STANDS TODAY UNLESS THE BOARD SAYS SCRAP ONE OR WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT OR FUND IT DIFFERENTLY. AS IT STANDS, THAT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

>> I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE SLIDE BECAUSE $22 MILLION LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. BUT, I KNOW WE SPOKE IN OUR OFFICE AND AS I UNDERSTAND OF THE $22 MILLION, THERE ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDATIONS SPENDING POTENTIALLY 18-$19 MILLION. AS WE'RE HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN MIND. WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE COUNTY AND I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MONEY BEING RECOMMENDED TO BE ALLOCATED OUT

OF PHASE THREE. >> CHAIR DEAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LEAVE THAT ON THE OVERHEAD FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO MAKE GENERAL COMMENTS. BUT ALSO, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANSWERS AS MUCH AS COMMISSIONER'S THOUGHTS. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE THIS ITEM I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT JUST CAME TO MY ATTENTION YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WHEN I WAS BRIEFED BY THE HOMEOWNERS COALITION. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING, GOING BACK ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I BELIEVE, WE WENT THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN WE BASICALLY HAD TO MAKE A HARD DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, I THINK IT WAS VICTORIA CROSSING IF I REMEMBER, OR WE HAD NOT RECEIVE THE HUD BLOCK GRANT. BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING HOME AGAIN ON TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR THAT SITE AS I RECALL. WITH

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AND, THOSE OF US WHO DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE A YEAR AGO WITH MR. DAVIS AND OTHERS SORT OF MADE A COMMITMENT, WE WERE GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO, NOW, AS I SIT HERE THIS MORNING, WITH THIS PROPOSAL JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS IN ANY DETAIL. BUT I FEEL COMPELLED AS A COMMISSIONER TO BRING IT UP FOR US TO LOOK AT, CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT. AND THAT IS, AS MUCH AS I UNDERSTAND ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM WITH THE REQUEST FOR $6 MILLION. AND WHEN WE HAD OUR WORKSHOP OBJECT ARPA ABOUT A MONTH AGO IN THE HHS BUILDING, ONE ISSUE KEPT RUNNING THROUGH MY MIND AND I KEPT THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES IS THESE FUNDS I THINK THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE 400 PAGES OF GUIDANCE FROM THE FEDERAL AGENCIES HANDLING THIS THAT WE NEED TO PUT SOME EMPHASIS ON THOSE GROUPS, THOSE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY INJURED OR HURT BY THE PANDEMIC.

I FEEL LIKE AS ONE COMMISSIONER, THIS HOME AGAIN, NUMBER ONE FALSE CLEARLY UNDER THAT UMBRELLA, IF YOU WILL, UNDER THAT DESCRIPTION. I FEEL LIKE THE HOMELESS HAVE BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY HURT BY THE PANDEMIC AND I FEEL LIKE ALSO AS A COMMISSION WE SORT OF MADE A COMMITMENT OVER A YEAR AGO TO WORK WITH HOME AGAIN TO FIND A SOLUTION OR WHAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE WE HAD TO SHIFT GEARS SUDDENLY A YEAR AGO ON THE VICTORIA CROSSING PROJECT. I KNOW I SPOKE WITH HUNTER ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PROJECT AND WE NEED IT AND WE NEED IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. BUT COMPARING THAT TO THE DISPROPORTIONATELY INJURED BY THE PANDEMIC, I THINK THE HOMELESS WERE DISPROPORTIONATELY INJURED BY THE PANDEMIC IN THE HOUSING DISTRICT. I WANT TO ASK HUNTER TO THINK ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF -- I CAN TELL YOU THIS, I MEAN, OUR ASSESSED VALUATIONS, OUR PROPERTY VALUES WENT UP TWO YEARS AGO BY 9%, LAST YEAR BY 9%, AND I'M TOLD THEY'RE GOING UP HIGHER THAN THAT THIS YEAR. SO, WE'RE IT RECEIVING SOME NEW MONEY AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE JESSIE IS, GETTING HIS AMPLES ARMS AROUND THE BUDGET. BUT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD BREAK THIS INTO A TWO-YEAR PROJECT, FUNDING IT OUT OF A GENERAL FUND REVENUE, BUT I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO BRING THIS TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION THIS MORNING BECAUSE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT IN SOME DETAIL AFTER MY MEETING WITH THE HOME AGAIN REPRESENTATIVES. IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE SERIOUSLY CONSIDER FUNDING. AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD THE BRIEFING OR NOT FROM HOME AGAIN, BUT IT'S LAID OUT IN A LETTER TO MR. DAVIS, WITH RELATIVELY BROKEN DOWN DETAIL AND I KNOW

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WHAT I LAID ON YOU SUDDENLY. >> NO, COMMISSIONER DEAN, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THESE ARE SUGGESTIONS AND WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO RESPOND HOWEVER YOU DEEM FIT. YOU ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY EVEN MORE THAN WE DO. WE'LL DO WHATEVER IS REQUESTED BY THIS BOARD. SO, IF YOU DECIDE TODAY TO TAKE A PORTION OF THAT AND GO FORWARD WITH IT OR TAKE A PORTION AND GO TO HOME AGAIN AND SAY, TAKE A PORTION AND SAVE A PORTION FOR HOME AGAIN, WHATEVER DIRECTION THAT YOU MOVE INTO, WE WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

>> OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. >> AT THIS TIME WE'LL HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 16 WHICH IS THE ALLOCATION OF THE

ARPA FUNDS. >> ED SLAVE IN. I STRONGLY AGREE WITH CHAIRMAN DEAN, I THINK THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING PROJECT SHOULD BE GENERAL FUND AND I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WETHER OR NOT THE SYSTEM FOR $6 MILLION CAN GROW AS THE COUNTY GROWS ARE WILL WE BE BUYING A NEW ONE IN FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE WE COULD LOSE A LOT OF MONEY ON SOFTWARE AND THERE'S A LOT OF KINKS IN IT. HERE WE RIGHT OR WRONG, I'M PROUD OF PRESIDENT BIDEN AND CONGRESS FOR PASSING AND IMPLEMENTING AS IT'S BEING DONE, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND, THE WORD'S HERE, RIGHT OR WRONG ARE WRITTEN IN MARBLE ON A MONUMENT IN WASHINGTON D.C.

NEAR THE HIGH YET REGENTSY TO THE JAPANESE. WEST AUGUSTINE BADLY THESE THE HEALTH CARE CENTER. IF YOU HAVE THE VOTES, SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP. BUT WEST AUGUSTINE HAS SUFFERED A LOT, AS HAVE THE HOMELESS FROM COVID. AND WEST AUGUSTINE HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND HORRIBLY TREATED, YOU KNOW THE HISTORY AS WELL AS I DO. AND THE HEALTH CARE IN WEST AUGUSTINE HAS SUFFERED BECAUSE OF THE NOT BENIGN NEGLECT BUT THE NEGLECT, AND THE FACT IS THAT THE SEWERS THERE ARE NONEXISTENT. PEOPLE HAVE SEPTIC TANKS WHICH LEAK INTO THEIR WELLS, KEN BRIAN WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GRAB SAMPLES TAKEN BY SCHOOL CHILDREN AND IT SEEMED LIKE 40-50% OF WELL WATER THERE WAS CONTAMINATED BY ECOLI. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE MONEY FOR THE HEALTH CARE CENTER IN WEST AUGUSTINE AND THE MONEY FOR THE HOMELESS AND I WILL HEED THE ADVICE OF RUBEN AND UNLESS YOU

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO LINE UP. WE HAVE TWO PODIUMS AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A LINE. WE WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY AND BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE

WITH THE TIME GIVEN TODAY. >> BETH BREEDING, 10175, JACKSONVILLE, 32256. I WAS VERY DISMAYED WHEN I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AS COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID THE LACK OF TRADES PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY IS THEY CAN NOT AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. IT'S GREAT TO GO A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, BUT IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, YOU'RE TRAINING THEM TO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTY. BUT THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO, THE COUNTY'S HAVING PROBLEMS ATTRACTING GOOD TALENT BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. IF FUNDING IS NOT ALLOCATED, THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE SENDING TO THE NONWEALTHY CITIZENS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THAT WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. SO, WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE THOUGH SHOWS THEM THAT WE DO WANT THEM HERE, THAT YOU ARE INCLUDED AND YOU MATTER.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> MY NAME IS JOE RYAN AND I'M 699 STANDISH DRIVE, RONALD

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SOMETHING'S, I ASK YOU NOT TO VOTE FOR THIS UNTIL WE FURTHER STUDY IT AND JUST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, 220 PUBLIC COMMENTS MEANS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IT'S PROBABLY THE FAULT OF HOW IT WAS MANAGED AND SENT OUT AND THE

INFORMATION GOT OUT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS

SIR. >> YES, MA'AM, NAME AND ADDRESS

FOR THE RECORD. >> GOOD MORNING, MEDICAL LINDA EVERSON WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, 7 HOPKINS STREET AND I FULLY AGREE WITH THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE SENDING TO THE POOR PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE THOSE ITEMS PROPOSED IN THE SECOND PHASE OF ARPA ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THIS COMMUNITY IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER. AND IT'S GOTTEN EVEN MORE CHALLENGING WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE HOUSING MARKET IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COME INTO OUR OFFICE AT HABITAT DAILY DESPERATE, THEY'RE HOMELESS, THEY'RE HIDING THE FACT THAT THEY'RE HOMELESS, BUT IF YOU TALK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WE KNOW THERE'S ABOUT A THOUSAND CHILDREN, AT LEAST A THOUSAND CHILDREN LIVING HOMELESS LIVING IN CARS AND ARE DESPERATE FOR A PLACE TO STUDY AND BE HEALTHY AND BE PART OF A FAMILY. SO, I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO CONSIDER AS PART OF PHASE TWO DESIGNATING FUNDS OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> YES, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, ARTHUR BUTLER 8 812 CRYCRYSTAL SPRING WAY. MANF YOU KNOW ME AS A MISSIONARY HERE IN THE COUNTY AS ONE WHO SERVES FAMILIES IN CRISIS AND OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE PASSIONATE WORK THAT I DO IS REGARDING SUBSTANCE MISUSE AMONG OUR YOUTH. WHAT I REALIZED IS THAT MANY DON'T KNOW MY PERSONAL STORY. AND I THOUGHT IT ROBBERY NOT TO SHARE WITH YOU A TIME WHEN I WAS HOMELESS. AND IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE EMBARRASSMENT AND BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL TREAT YOU DIFFERENTLY.

BUT, I WANT TO TAKE YOU BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD AND ONE THAT WAS

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>> THANK YOU MR. BUTLER. >> YES, MA'AM. NAME AND

ADDRESS, PLEASE. >>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME SAYS VICKY PEPPER AND I LIVE ON HARBOR VISTA CIRCLE IN ST.

AUGUSTINE AND I'M A MEMBER OF CARE COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY. HOW ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHOULD SPEND FEDERAL FUNDING BY THE ARPA. STAFF AND CITIZENS HEARD FROM CITIZENS.

(INDISCERNIBLE) HIT ESPECIALLY HARD BY THE PANDEMIC. CARES URGED YOU TO APPLY THE ARPA CRITERIA TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF POPULATIONS DISPROPORTIONATELY HARMED BY THE PANDEMIC AND DISTRIBUTING THE FUNDING. THEREFORE JIB

(INDISCERNIBLE)IN >> (INDISCERNIBLE). WE WERE EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE NO FUNDING WHATSOEVER PROPOSED IN PHASE 2 FOR HOMELESS AS FAR ASS, FEEDING THE HUNDRED GRAY OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ALL OF WHICH ARTS NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN (INDISCERNIBLE) INSTEAD THE STAFF RECOMMENDS SPENDING $6 MILLION FOR A NEW COMPUTER ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM. C.A.R.E WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY. THE COMPUTER SYSTEM THE COUNTY USES SHOULD BED FROM MONEY CONGRESS APPROPRIATED IF NOT FROM GENERAL REVENUES PROVIDING OPERATING FUNDS AND EVEN IF FUNDING FOR THE COMPUTER SYSTEM WERE PERMITTED UNDER THE TREASURY RECOMMENDATIONS PRIORITIZING THIS USE AHEAD OF FINDING A PERMANENT HOME FOR HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS TO PROVIDE SUPPORT OF HOUSING AND UNIFIED SERVICES CENTER OR HELPING EPICURE OBTAIN A NEW WARE HOUSE TO ENABLE IT TO DISTRIBUTE EVERY MONTH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF FOOD WITHOUT COST TO THOUSANDS OF AREA RESIDENTS EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITY DURING THE PANDEMIC AND IT'S AFTERMATH, BOTH OF WHICH ARE URGENT TIME SENSITIVE NEEDS.

ALLOCATING THAT $6 MILLION INSTEAD TOWARD HOME AGAIN AND EPICURE BOTH PRIORITY NEEDS THAT CAN'T WAIT FOR PHASE THREE SHOULD STILL LEAVE SIGNIFICANT FUNDING AVAILABLE IN PHASE THREE TO APPLY TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY WOULD USE THE REMAINDER TO PUBLICLY FUND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO

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THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS GREG WHITE, 905 PEARL STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. FIRST OF ALL, GREETINGS FROM MR. MARK BAILEY ENABLE TO ATTEND THIS MORNING, THAT'S OUT OF STATE FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR HE'S CERTAINLY IN SUPPORT OF OUR MOVEMENT IN GETTING A MEDICAL COMPLEX IN WEST AUGUSTINE. I'M A NATIVE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I LOVE ST. JOHNS COUNTY NO DOUBT.

HOW COULD YOU NOT. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THE RICHEST COUNTY IN THE ENTIRE STATE. WOVE THE BEST SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE AND IN SOME CASES IN THE NATION. 94% OF ALL OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS GRADUATE. THE SAT SCORE EXCEEDS 1200 AND WE CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT YOUR SCHOOLS. TOURISM, 6 MILLION PEOPLE VISIT ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS TOURISTS IN OUR GREAT COUNTY AS WELL AS THE CITY. BUT 10 CONSECUTIVE YEARS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE HEALTHIEST COUNTY IN THE ENTIRE STATE. THAT'S PHENOMENAL. I LIVE IN A LOW TO MARKET INCOME, SOME CALL IT WEST AUGUSTINE, I LOVE MY COMMUNITY. OKAY. AND SOME GREAT PHILOSOPHER SAID AT ONE TIME, HIGH TIDES LIFT BOATS. BUT IF THERE'S A HOLE IN THE BOAT, THERE'S TROUBLE TO LIFT IT. IN WEST AUGUSTINE, WE HAVE THAT HOLE, THAT HOLE IS TOP 10% IN KIDNEY FILE LURE, CANCER, HYPER TENSION. THAT STRIKE IS FOUR TIMES GREATER THAN ANY OF THE AREAS. SO, WE SIT AND STAND HERE TODAY, WE HAVE A CHANCE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO PATCH THAT HOLE SO THAT WHEN THAT TIDE RISE IN ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, THAT BOAT WILL ALSO BE LIFTED AT THAT POINT IN TIME. I THANK YOU.

>>> THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. >> (APPLAUSE)

>> YES, MA'AM, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> GOOD MORNING, I AM RUTH HOPE, AND I LIVE AT 133 NEPTUNE ROAD ST. AUGUSTINE. AND CHAIRMAN AND BOARD OF COUNY COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE DUE CONSIDERATION TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I COMPLETED THE ONLINE SURVEY LAST YEAR, I THINK IN NOVEMBER. AND I ATTENDED THE WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY. ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT AND FUNDING. THERE WERE MANY SPEAKERS ON THE FLOOR ALL OF WHOM WERE ADVOCATED THAT WE USE THE FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE POOREST AND THE ONES IN NEED. THEREFORE I WAS TOTALLY SHOCKED TO FIND THERE WAS NO PLAN FUNDING IN THIS STAGE TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS OR HUNGER IN THE COUNTY'S PLANS.

TOTALLY SHOCKED. ON SATURDAY, I WAS ON THE NIGHT SHIFT AT THE EMERGENCY COLD SHELTER FOR THE HOMELESS. WE HAD 51 PEOPLE SLEEPING WITH US. THIS IS A GREAT UNUNITED METHODIST CHURCHS I WAS ON THE NIGHT SHIFT, I ONLY GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH TWO OF THEM BECAUSE MOST ARE SLEEPING WHEN I ARRIVED. THE TWO WERE BOTH WORKING HOMELESS THAT CAME AFTER I GOT THERE.

ONE WAS A MAN AGE 21 WHO CAME FOR WORK IN HOSPITALITY, THEY GOT AN APARTMENT. AND BEING 20 AND 21, THEY HAVE BROKEN UP THE RELATIONSHIP AND HE CAN NOT AFFORD TO KEEP ON AN APARTMENT AND NOW HE'S LIVING ROUGH IN ST. AUGUSTINE. THE OTHER WAS A WOMAN IN HER 60S, SHE'S ALSO IN HOSPITALITY, A SOUX CHEF, SHE AND HER SON WHO ALSO WORKED IN HOSPITALITY HAD A CONDO IN A 1-A

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THEY CAN NOT AFFORD THE CURRENT RENT AND THEY'RE NOW LIVING IN DEPLORABLE CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE STREETS. SO, THE IDEA THAT THE HOMELESS ALL HAVE DRUG PROBLEMS IS A MYTH. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS, AND DRUG PROBLEMS, BOTH HOMELESS AND NOT. BUT, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE HOMELESS AND THAT MEANS PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THEM LIKE HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS AND ALSO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THEM. I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT YOU ARE FUNDING THE WEST AUGUSTINE MEDICAL CLINIC AND THE WATER SEWER FOR HASTINGS. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ALLOCATE MONEY NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE PROJECTS NEEDED NOW THAT MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR EPICURE, THEY NEED 2.2 FOR A WAREHOUSE AND FOR HOME

AGAIN ST. JONES. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD MORNING, TAWLA WILLIS, 829 ST. AUGUSTINE. I WEAR A LOT OF HATS, BUT MOST OF ALL I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT AFTERNOON WEST AUGUSTINE AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS, MORE BEING MY MOTHER WHO IS 86-YEAR-OLD. THESE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY AND I REPRESENT AND SPEAK AND STAND FOR THEM TODAY WHO HAVE PAID TAXES AND CONTRIBUTED TO THIS COMMUNITYND A THE COUNTY OF ST. JOHNS FOR OVER 70 YEARS AND I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO SEE THE FRUITS OF THEIR LABOR. MY MOTHER, WHOSE 86 YEARS-OLD. DOESN'T HAVE A LOCAL FACILITY TO GO TO. I HAVE TO DRIVE AND TAKE HER PLACES SHE NEEDS TO GO, WHICH I HUMBLY DO. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT COULD USE THE ASSISTANCE OF THE ARPA MONEY. HEARD, AND THAT NEEDS OR CONTINUED TO MET. I ASK THIS COMMITTEE TODAY AS I HAVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO RECOGNIZE THE NEEDS OF WEST AUGUSTINE. NOT JUST FOR THE MEDICAL CLINIC, THAT'S A GOOD START, IT'S GOING TO TOTALLY CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SET A TONE OF WHAT GOVERNMENT DOES WHEN IT TAKES CARE OF PEOPLE ON THE HUMAN SIDE OF BUSINESS. I THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. WALLACE. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M IRVING BALLLOCK. I WANT TO THANK JOY AND THE COUNTY STAFF FOR THE WORK WITH THE WORK SHOP THAT WAS WELL ATTENDED. APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS COMING TO THAT. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE AGENCIES THAT SPOKE. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING WEST AUGUSTINE CLINIC AND THE HASTINGS WATER IN THAT. AND THERE ARE TWO AGENCIES THAT I'M AWARE OF ARE TIME SENSITIVE AND THE FIRST IS HOME AGAIN, THE AGENCIES THAT YOU HEARD FROM AT THE WORK SHOP. HOME AGAIN. THE AGENCIES MAKE OUR COUNTIES FUNCTIONAL AND THESE PEOPLE MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL. THEY'RE WAITERS, WAITRESSES, HOTEL CLEANERS, IN ONE CASE, A BANK OF AMERICA PERSON LIVING IN HER CAR HELPED BY HOME AGAIN. DO YOU KNOW THAT HOME AGAIN HAS NO POTABLE WATER, YOU CAN'T DRINK THE WATER THERE.

THEY HAVE ONE FLUSHABLE TOILET. IT'S NOT A SITUATION THAT'S SUSTAINABLE. THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO GET SOME PROPERTY IT IS HARD TO FIND PROPERTY Y'ALL KNOW THIS, WHERE THEY WOULD ALLOW YOU TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE HOME AGAIN. THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND IT WON'T LAST AND IF THAT OPPORTUNITY IS LOST, I THINK WE'LL ALL BE SORRY, BUT IT WILL BE BACK ON YOUR PLATE AND WE'LL BE BACK HERE. SO, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW. EPICURE IS IN THE, AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT EPICURE, BUT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW, WHEN YOU LIVE IN YOUR CAR, YOU CAN'T COOK OR EAT HEALTHY. YOU KNOW THAT, EPICURE FILLS THAT GAP AND HELP WITH THAT. SO, I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL WILL LOOK AGAIN AT WHAT WE DO FOR THE HOMELESS AND FOR THE LOW INCOME HOUSING IN PHASE II AND PARTICULARLY IN PHASE III

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YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> MY NAME IS WARREN CLARK, 702 JERONA ROAD. IT'S BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH IRVING ON THIS. I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE EPICURE EPICURE, I SOMETIMES GO WITHOUT FOOD SO MY CHILDREN AND MY ELDERLY GET ENOUGH. AND NOW, THIS IS IS CLASSIC. NOW, MY CHILDREN WHEN THEY ARE HUNGRY AND HEATING RICE AND VEGETABLES THEY SAY, MA, LET'S GO TO OUTBACK STEAK HOUSE AND BIG OUT.

AND THEN THEY LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL. WHAT THESE THREE PEOPLE ARE SCRIBING DESCRIBING IS FOOD INSECURITY. THE PANDEMIC INCREASED FOOD INSECURITY AND THAT BY DECEMBER 2020, 40,000 PEOPLE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FROM FOOD INSECURE AND THAT WAS AN INCREASE OF 13,000 IN ONE YEAR. AS THE PANDEMIC WANED, INFLATION GREW, FOOD PRICES UP 7.4% AND GAS UP 40%. WITH SPENDING MORE FOR ELECTRICITY AND GAS AND HIGHER PRICES FOR FOOD, YOU BET, THAT FOOD INSECURITY IS INCREASING HERE. ACCORDING TO FEEDING AMERICA, THE FOOD BANK SYSTEM, 8,270 CHILDREN ARE FOOD INSECURE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FERN ARE FOOD INSECURE, ASTHMA, ANEMIA, GROWTH STUNTING, LACK OF FOOD CAN PERMANENTLY ALTER A CHILD'S BRAIN. CHILDREN WILL NEVER RECOVER THEIR POTENTIAL AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY CAN MAKE TO THIS COUNTY. AND EVEN IF THAT AFFECTED ONE CHILD IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY THAT'S A HUGE COST. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SO MUCH FOOD IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS THROWN OUT FROM GROCERY STORES, RESTAURANTS AND FIELDS. THAT'S WHY A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS ORGANIZED TO RESCUE FOOD THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT.

THIS IS AN ALL-VOLUNTEER OPERATION THAT SERVES 4200 PEOPLE A MONTH AT 17 WEEKLY FOOD DISTRIBUTION SITES. FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IN THE PROGRAM, $31 WORTH OF FOOD GETS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FOOD INSECURE, INCLUDING THE CHILDREN. THE NEW OWNERS OF THE EPICURE'S WARE HOUSE MAY NOT RENEW THE LEASE, THEY REALLY WANT THEM OUT AND THIS JEOPARDIZE ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER EPICURE'S REQUEST FOR FUNDING IN

PHASE II. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> YOU GET.

>> I'M DR. ARTHUR CULL BERT AND I LIVE AT 2210 VISTA COVE IN WEST AUGUSTINE. I WANT TO PARTICULARLY THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THE WORK SHOPS BACK IN FEBRUARY. I'M A VERY NEW RESIDENT TO THE COUNTY, I'VE ONLY LIVED HERE TWO YEARS. I HAD A DISTINGUISHED CAREER IN PUBLIC HEALTH IN BOSTON FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 10 YEARS BEFORE COMING HERE I WAS INVOLVED IN HELPING TO FEED THE HUNGRY IN ST. LOUIS, I BELIEVE PASSIONATELY IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN US. AND I WANT LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HELPING TO FEED THE HUNGRY AND PEOPLE IN NEED. ONE OUT OF FIVE PEOPLE IN OUR NATION AND COUNTY GO TO HUNGRY EACH NIGHT. I CAME TO THE WORKSHOP LAST MONTH AND MET FOR THE FIRST TIME, SUNNY, ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS. I WAS SO IMPRESSED TO SEE THIS OPERATION,

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YOU ARE DOING. >> THANK YOU. SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. GERALD CHESTER, 220 HERALD CIRCLE, DAYTONA BEACH, FLORIDA, BUT I'M A PRODUCT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, GRADUATED FROM HASTINGS HIGH AND LEFT THIS COMMUNITY TO GO TO BOY'S TOWN FROM WEST AUGUSTINE, RECOMMENDED AND APPROVED THE AMERICAN LEGION. SO, I WAS EXTREMELY GRATEFUL TO BE INVITED TO SERVE AS A CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE HEALTH CLINIC.

I'VE BEEN IN THE WEEDS SO MUCH, I DON'T WANT TO SHARE THAT DATA, I TALKED ABOUT DATA AND MET WITH EACH OF YOU, HAVING DEALT WITH MANY CITIES AND MANY POLITICIANS AND STAFF, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR ME, I'VE MET WITH EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND I ACTUALLY SAW THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WERE GOING TO FUND THE PROJECT, BUT I SAW A GENUINE CONCERN AND PEOPLE LISTENED AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

PEOPLE IN THIS XHUBT AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM APPRECIATE IT. TO THE STAFF, MR. HUNTER AND ANDREWS, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING

THE WESTAUGU >> THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME FOR NON-PROFITS LIKE US. WE SURVIVE BASED ON PRIVATE DONATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE A CHURCH OR ANYBODY THAT SUPPORTS US. SO, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PURCHASE OTHER BUILDINGS AT ALL. THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFE TIME OPPORTUNITY FOR US. WE'RE GRANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAY UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES OR CANS FOR US THAT ALLOW TO REMAIN THAT ARE BEYOND OUR CONTROL, SO IF ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE HELPING US CAN NO LONGER HELP US WE WOULD BE EVICTED BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS BEYOND OUR CONTROL. BUT, ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY IS THAT ONE THING THAT WAS NOT TALKED ABOUT HERE IS THAT LAST MONTH ALONE WE HAD OVER 400 NEW FAMILIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT CAME TO RECEIVE FOOD FROM US THAT HAVE NEVER COME BEFORE. INFLATION IS REALLY HURTING PEOPLE. OUR PHONE ARE RINGING OFF THE HOOK WITH PEOPLE JUST SAYING I CAN'T PAY YOU KNOW, MY LIGHT OR RENT AND AFFORD FOOD.

SO, BY US PROVIDING THIS SERVICE TO PEOPLE FOR FREE, WE'RE FREEING UP THIS MONEY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE OTHER CRITICAL THINGS THAT THEY NEED AND LAST YEAR ALONE WE PROVIDED AND WE WANT TO SECURE OUR PLACE IN THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY AS THIS NEED WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY, WE EXPECT, OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM? HI.

>> MY NAME IS RACHEL MILLER AND I LIVE AT 6524 NASSAU STREET ST.

AUGUSTINE. I WEAR A LOT OF HATS, I'M AN EDUCATOR AND A NURSE AND I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH EPICURE IN THE COMMUNITY AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ALL OF YOUR PROPOSALS AND DATA AND KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR ON THE WEST AUGUSTINE CLINIC AND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND TIME ON THIS. BUT, I CAN NOT SAY HOW IMPORTANT EPICURE IS TO OUR COMMUNITY, I'VE WORKED WITH THEM SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH WENDY AND SUNNY, AND THE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THE OUTREACH CLINICS THAT WE'VE DONE AND THEIR PROGRAMMING IS COMPREHENSIVE AND FLEXIBLE AND ADDRESSES THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE SEEN PERSONALLY THE INCREASE FOR FOOD AND SUPPORT IN THIS COMMUNITY TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS AND NOT ONLY LACK OF ACCESS TO FOOD IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHAT WEST AUGUSTINE IS A FOOD DESERT, WHAT EPICURE PROVIDE SUNSHINE GRADE A QUALITY FOOD AND ORGANIC FOOD OPTIONS, COOKING CLASSES, AND EDUCATION ON HOW TO UTILIZE THIS FOOD TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND ADULTS WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT REGARDLESS OF ACCESS TO FOOD.

REGARDLESS OF HAVING AN EBT CARD, YOU COULD GO TO PUBLIX AND GET GROCERIES. YOU COULD GO THERE TO LEARN WHAT TO DO WITH THIS FOOD. THESE TWO ARE OUT THERE EVERY WEEKEND AND EVERY WEEK AND I'M FULLY CONFIDENT THAT AS THE SITUATION AND CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE IN OUR COUNTY THAT THEY WILL CHANGE AND ADJUST PROGRAMMING TO ADDRESS THE TRUE NEEDS IN FRONT OF OUR

FACE DAILY. SO. YEAH. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, I'M DIANE BATTLE, 631 SWEET WATER BRANCH LANE AND UNLIKE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN HERE BEFORE, I LIVE IN WHAT IS GENERALLY REGARDED AS A VERY WELL-OFF DISTRICT. I'M PROUD HERE TO HAVE BOUGHT THIS SHIRT TO BE PART OF GOOD TROUBLE AND TO HEAR THESE STORIES. BECAUSE WE DON'T HEAR THAT UP IN DISTRICT 1. ALTHOUGH, WE DO HAVE HOMELESS. WE DO HAVE HUNGRY, AND FOR 10 YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AN AGENCY ORGANIZATION THAT'S ST. JOHNS CARES AND I'M NOT REPRESENTING THEM HERE TODAY. THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL VIEW TO YOU. THAT, IT'S REALLY DISHEARTENING TO LISTEN AND HEAR ABOUT A BUDGET PLAN THAT'S PART OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. RESCUE IS THE KEY WORD HERE. PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HARMED ESPECIALLY BY COVID AND NOW BY THE SLING BACK INFLATION CAUSED BECAUSE OF TRYING TO GET ABOVE THE COVID PANDEMIC. WE WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE, MY HUSBAND AND I, WE'RE NOT IN NEED OF MONEY BUT WE SPENT ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH GETTING THE SAME GROCERIES AS WE GOT A WEEK OR TWO AGO. THIS IS COMING HOME TO EVERYBODY. AND I'M REALLY, REALLY, SAD TO HEAR THAT NONE OF THIS THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR NOW, THESE AGENCIES HAVE TO TAKE THEIR TIME OUT FROM THE VERY VALUABLE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING TO COME HERE AND ASK YOU, PLEASE, TO MAKE SOME ROOM IN YOUR BUDGET FOR THIS. AND, IT'S NOT LIKE I APPRECIATE MR. DEAN REMINDING US ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVEN'T KNOWN.

YOU'VE KNOWN IF FOR A LONG TIME WHEN YOU TOLD OUT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING BECAUSE WE DON'T SAY LOW INCOME HOUSING HERE, I GUESS. IT'S REALLY DISHEARTENING THAT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN SEEMS TO BE AIMED AT UPGRADING AN INFORMATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND INTEGRATING AN INFORMATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTY. I'M REALLY SORRY THAT COVID HAS CAUSED THIS HARDSHIP ON THE COUNTY. IT SEEMS KIND OF WEIRD AND IT LEAVES THE REAL PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING RESCUE RELIEF BEGGING FOR MONEY. IT'S, IT'S, I HAVE NO WORDS. SO...

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> GOOD MORNING, I'M LISA MCGLEN AND I RESIDE AT 703 PINE HIRST PLACE. I WANT TO SAY,

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THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. BUT, PLEASE, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, THE HOUSING NEEDS. IF WE DON'T FIX THE HOUSING PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE OF NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO BE SORRY DOWN THE ROAD. SO, PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING. I'M ANTHONY FROM NEW MONT CHRISTIAN STREET.

I'M A NATIVE OF ST. AUGUSTINE, BORN AND RAISED. I GRADUATED FROM ST. AUGUSTINE HIGH. I WENT INTO THE ARMY AND I ALSO JUST WENT OVER 32 YEARS OF BEING SOBER FROM A DRUG ADDICTION PROBLEM. BORN TO AN ALCOHOLIC MOM. MY LIFE HAS BEEN DEALING WITH PROBLEMS. I CURRENTLY WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH THE REENTRY PLAN. ANOTHER SET OF HURT PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WE NEED THE CLINIC. YOU KNOW WE NEED THE BUILDING FOR EPICURE.

ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NO MYSTERY FOR NONE OF US. I COME AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FOUNDER OF THE NEOMY PROJECT, GIVE US THE MONEY AND WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

WE'LL GO WHERE THE HURTING PEOPLE ARE. WE'LL GO WHERE OUR SENIORS ARE. WE'LL TALK TO THE ADDICT, ALCOHOLIC. WE'LL SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH THOSE WHO, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THEIR OWN THINGS LIKE I DID, JUST NEED A CHANCE FOR SOMEBODY TO GIVE THEM HOPE. ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS MY HOME. HANGING OUT ON THE BEACH WITH THE RICH KIDS DOING CRAZY STUFF. BUT, COMING BACK TO WEST AUGUSTINE IS WHERE I'M FROM. SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE STAND TOGETHER. YOU SEE THESE SHIRTS AND THE COALITION OF PEOPLE WHO CARE. WE'RE MAKING AND WE'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I'M GOING BACK TO MY PULPIT AND TELL OTHER PASTORS TO TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU OUR LEADERS ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE ON HOW THE MONEY GETS SPENT. WE'LL DO THE DIRTY WORK. WE'LL DO THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. I WANT TO BE PART OF MAKING A CHANGE SO WE PARTNER WITH EPICURE, AND THE HOSPITAL WITH THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA AND WITH THE GOOD TROUBLE AND COMPASSIONATE ST. AUGUSTINE. OUR VOICE IS GETTING STRONGER BECAUSE WE'RE COMING TOGETHER. THE VISION FOR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS GETTING STRONGER. AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAYING I WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, IS GETTING STRONGER. AND I'M GOING TO SAY YOU, YOUR LEADERS WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY DETERMINING HOW THE MONEY GETS SPENT. THANK YOU

FOR LETTING ME SHARE. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, KEN MCKLAIN, PO BOX 912 HASTINGS, FLORIDA. THE SECRET OF FREEDOM LIES IN EDUCATING PEOPLE WHERE THE SECRET OF TYRANNY IS KEEPING THEM IGNORENT. I'VE BEEN KNOWING ABOUT WEST AUGUSTINE 14-15 YEARS NOW. IT WAS CREATED 20 YEARS AGO, THE BLIGHT WAS THERE THERE. I'VE BEEN COMING TO THIS PODIUM AND OTHER ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS PODIUM TO NO AVAIL. YOU GUYS ARE THE FIVE HEART BEATS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY,

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ESPECIALLY THE MOST VULNERABLE. I'M A LIFE LONG RESIDENT, BORN AND RAISED RIGHT HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I LIVE WELL, MY CHURCH, WE FEED THE HUNGRY. WE GO OUT AND DO MISSIONARY WORK TO HELP THE UNDERSERVED PEOPLE. NOW, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GIVING YOU GUYS THE OPPORTNITY TO DO THE SAME. I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR CAPACITY TO PICK UP PEOPLE NOT DOING SO WELL, YOU ARE GOVERNMENT, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO RUN GOVERNMENT, ALL OF THESE AGENCIES, EVEN THE PASTOR WHO IS BEEN IN THE MARINES. I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM, I WAS IN THE ARMY, BUT WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER. AIR FORCE, OKAY, APOLOGIES. BUT, THE POINT IS, WE HAVE THE PLAN. WE HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY. SO, IF YOU GUYS TAKE OUR HEARTBEAT AND LISTEN TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND LISTEN TO OUR NEEDS AND APPLY THEM. WE DON'T NEED A SYSTEM, WE NEED A 25-YEAR PLAN. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE HOMELESS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP KICKING THIS DOWN THE ROAD. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN AND HELP EPICURE. THEY WILL WORK IN COALITION WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER COALITIONS OUT HERE DOING THE WORK. WE'LL DO THE WORK. WE WON'T HAVE TO COME TO THE PODIUM, JUST GIVE US THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO DO THE WORK. MY FELLOW MEMBER, VICKY THAT CAME UP AND SHE LAID IT DOWN. WE HAVE A PLAN, Y'ALL HAVE A PLAN, LET'S MERGE THE PLANS TO HELP EVERYBODY AND MAKE IT EQUITY. HASTINGS HAS BEEN SUFFERING FOR OVER 40 YEARS, OKAY. BUT NOW, THEY'RE GETTING HELP AND I'M PROUD OF THAT AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT HAD SOMETHING DO WITH IT. AND I ALSO WANT TO LEAVE YOU GUYS WITH THIS ONE MESSAGE, GOD LOVES YOU, AND SO DO I, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, BETH CHASE 441 EAST KENSLY LANE, ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WHAT COMES TO MIND THIS MORNING IS JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD. $6 MILLION FOR A SYSTEM THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED AND THE COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT THAT WHICH NEED IS NOT PART OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. THE MONEY SHOULD GO TO RESCUE THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY. PUT THE STUFF FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AND THE ERP INTO A REGULAR BUDGET BUT DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED TO BE RESCUED IN THIS COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> >> MY NAME IS MIKE BIAS AND I LIVE AT 632 SUNDOWN CIRCLE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. I'VE BEEN ON HOME AGAIN FOR QUITE AWHILE ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, MIKE DAVIS AND I WERE WORKING ON SETTING UP 207 HOME AGAIN THERE. THE WAY IT WAS SET UP, WE HAD A 9-YEAR LEASE WITH (INDISCERNIBLE) WE HAD ONE PERSON TO BE HELP WITH US ON THIS. AND, HE AND I WENT INTO THE WOODS WITH FLYERS TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE WE WERE. AND, SO, BASICALLY, IT WAS ABOUT, WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE DID FOOD SHOWERS, WASHER, DRYER, MEDICAL, AND ALL. ALL IN THE LAST 12 YEARS. WELL, THE HURRICANE HAPPENED AND AFTER WARD, THE COUNTY WANTED US TO MOVE 207.

AND SO, WE CANCELLED OUR LEASE FOR NINE YEARS, AND WE HAVE

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THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT. AND SO, THE MAIN THING IS FOR THE COUNTY TO DO THE FUNDING AT SR 16 AND WE

REALLY NEED IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR, THANK YOU

FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY, I'M ELLEN WALLED DONE, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT HAD GONE ST. JOHNS, AND WE'RE ONE OF THOSE.

>> YOUR ADDRESS? >> WELL, MY OFFICE IS 285 SOUTH HOLMES BOULEVARD AND MY PHYSICAL ADDRESS IS 4821 PEEL STREET. WE WERE RELOCATED IN OCTOBER 2021 AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY EVER SINCE AT OUR NEW SITE. WE HAD A 99 YEAR LEASE AT 207 FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR. AND ROUGHLY WE'RE SPENDING $5,000 A MONTH RIGHT NOW ON-SITE TO PUT US IN A TRAILER TO HOUSE US ON HOLMES BOULEVARD. FIND HOME AGAIN A COMPARABLE OR SUITABLE BUSINESS SITE TO BE RENTED OR PURCHASED FOR HUD GUIDELINES, W FACILITIES DUE TO LACK OF AN OPERATIONAL SEPTIC SYSTEM NOT TO MENTION THAT THE WATER I HAVE TO TOTE DAILY FOR THE PEOPLE TO DRINK. OUT OF THE 28 MENTIONED BY MR. BIONS THAT WE HAVE EMPLOYED, THEY GET A BATH BY USING A HOSE TO CLEAN UP TO GO TO WORK THE NEXT DAY. CURRENTLY WE HAVE NO LAUNDRY, AND THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING I TAKE THEIR LAUNDRY HOME TO MY HOME AND WASH IT SO THAT THEY CAN STAY EMPLOYED. THESE 28 INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE REMAINED WORKING HAVE BEEN WORKING OVER 1 YEAR. AND I WOULD SAY, LET ME STEP BACK A MINUTE, AND SAY THAT 85% OF THEM HAVE BEEN WORKING MORE THAN ONE YEAR. WE HAVE MANY IN CARS AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE COUNTY NEEDS TO MAKE US WHOLE SO, I'M ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROJECT THAT WE SENT TO YOU WE WOULD LIKE TO BE AT LEAST PARTIALLY FUNDED DURING THIS SECOND PHASE IF NOT ALL, AND IF WE ARE PARTIALLY FUNDED TO FUND THE REST OF US WHEN THE NEXT PHASE GOES THROUGH. SO, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL.

IT'S HOUSING FIRST, THE REST WILL ALL FALL INTO PLACE. THANK

YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, I'M BILL ASAL.

I MISSED A LOT OF THIS BECAUSE I WAS MEETING WITH THE BANK TO TRY AND FIND FUNDING TO COMPETE WITH THE INVESTORS TAKING OUR REAL ESTATE MARKET. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT FROM EVERY LEVEL FROM PEOPLE HOMELESS TO FOLKS TRYING TO BUY THEIR FIRST HOMES, THAT'S SOME OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, COPS, FIRE-FIGHTERS, NURSES, AND EVERYBODY IN BETWEEN. IT'S A STRUGGLE RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE RELIEF ACT MONEY AND THE SECOND ROUND OF IT, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING IN THERE THAT ADDRESSED HOUSING AND I KNOW THAT THERE COULD BE IN THE THIRD ROUND. BUT WE NEED IT NOW. JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE PRICES ARE GOING UP EVERYDAY AND EITHER IT'S IMPORTANT OR NOT. WE HAD A LIST OF $10 MILLION WORTH OF POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE

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>> I'M CARROLL HOLTS AND I'M A LIFE LONG RESIDENT OF HASTINGS.

AND I FINISHED PARISH HIGH SCHOOL.

>> 703 HINDALLY STREET HASTINGS FLORIDA. I'M A MEMBER OF THE CONCERNED CITIZENS, ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY KNOWN AS C.A.R.E. I DID NOT PLAN TO SAY ANYTHING TODAY. BUT I'M MOVED BY THE COMPASSION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING TO WORK 10 YEARS FOR ANOTHER COUNTY GOVERNMENT. I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH YOUR ATTENTIVENESS TODAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. HOLT. >> ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 16. SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> CHAIR DEAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, NOW THAT WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ARE THERE ANY BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAD LIKE TO WEIGH IN AT THAT POINT?

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> YES, THANK YOU, WITH MR. CHAIRMAN. MY BACKGROUND IS IN NON-PROFIT SECTOR IN ST.

JOHNS AND I'VE PERSONALLY VISITED HOME AGAIN. ELLEN GAVE ME A TOUR OF THEIR FACILITY AND I'VE SEEN FIRST HAND THE CHALLENGES FACED AND WHILE I WASN'T ON THE BOARD WHEN THIS AGREEMENT WAS REACHED WITH THE COUNTY, I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT WHAT THEY DO IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT WE NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS FUNDING THEM. I THINK THAT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR FALSE UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF WHAT ARPA WAS DESIGNED FOR AND I WOULD BE

HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THROUGH THE CHAIR, TO MR. CONRAD, WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT WE COULD DO ANYTHING WITH THESE FUNDS BUT CERTAINLY NOT EVERYTHING. AT THE TOWN HALL AND AGAIN TODAY WE HEARD A LOT OF FOLKS REPRESENTING NON-PROFITS WHO ARE ADDRESSING URGENT NEEDS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE SYSTEM THAT $6 MILLION IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS WILL OBVIOUSLY MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR STAFF TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY REACH OUT TO US. CAN YOU GO BACK INTO THAT AND REEXPLAIN IT. I KNOW THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT PRIVATELY.

>> LET ME TALK ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY. I GOT A PHONE CALL YESTERDAY AND LET ME SAY THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO THIS BOARD, THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WE'LL RESPOND TO HOW THIS BOARD SAYS THIS IS WHERE IT GOES AND WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS PERSON DOESN'T KNOW AND I WILL NOT USE THEIR NAME. THEY CALLED YESTERDAY AND SAID "HEY, I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND WAY PAST MY NET TIMELINE OF WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE PAID". HE SAID, LOOK I'M NOT A BIG BUSINESS OWNER, I'M SMALL, IT'S A $75,000 CHECK AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE GOOD SYSTEMS IN PLACE RELATED TO THE

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I LEAVE THAT TO THE BOARD TO MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT IT IS AN ALLOWABLE ALLOCATION UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN WE WOULDN'T BRING YOU ANYTHING NOT DEEM AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE. THOSE ARE TWO EXAMPLES AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON, I CAN HAVE STAFF COME AND DO A PRESENTATION ON THAT. BUT, CERTAINLY THAT'S AN ADVOCACY ON MY PART AND I DO WANT TO REITERATE BECAUSE I HEARD A COUPLE OF THE PEOPLE MAKE THE COMMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING AND SOME ARE NOT LISTENING. REMEMBER, MUCH OF PHASE II WAS DONE BEFORE WE GOT TO THE WORKSHOP. WESTERN BUTTONING IT UP AND BRINGING IT FORWARD. NOW, THE WORK SHOP'S COME AND WE'RE LISTENING TO THE RESPONSES AND CERTAINLY WHETHER IT'S THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING AND YOU ALL WANT TO SHAVE SOME OF THE FUNDS AVENUE OF THAT AND SHAVE ALL OF THE FUNDS OR NONE OF THE FUNDS, WHETHER IT'S THE PUBLIC SAFETY HAND HELDS AND THIS BOARD SAYS, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT. I THINK AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH A PHASE THREE, IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO HEAR CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BUT, THERE'S A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH THAT REMAINING 22 AND IF YOU TAKE OUT SOME OF THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE, I THINK TODAY IS A GOOD TIME TO GET THE FEED BACK FROM Y'ALL SO WE COULD GET A PLAN RESPONSIVE TO WHAT YOU WANT AS A BOARD.

>> HOW QUICKLY COULD WE GET THE FUNDS TO ONE OF THOSE NON-PROFITS, I KNOW, EPICURE, FROM THE SOUND OF THINGS, THEY NEED MONEY AND IT'S TIME SENSITIVE. EVEN IF WE WERE TO APPROVE FUNDS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AFTER APPROVAL OF GETTING THE DOLLARS INTO THE HAND'S OF THOSE NON-PROFITS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, WE ONLY HAVE THE FIRST HALF OF THE FUNDING. SO, THE REST OF IT IS NOT HERE WE HAVE $27 MILLION. EVEN IF YOU APPROPRIATED IT TODAY, THERE WOULD BE A CASH FLOW DELAY IN FUNDING THAT MONEY BECAUSE THE REMAINING 26 IS NOT HERE, IT SECONDLY, YOU COULD ALLOCATE IT ALL AND GIVE IT ONE PLACE WE HAVE A GRANT AGREEMENT ON HOW THAT MONEY WILL BE SPENT, ALLOCATED AND PRESIDED OVER FROM AN ACCOUNTING STAND POINT AND IN ACCORDANCE OF FEDERAL LAW IS A HUGE COMPONENT OF THAT. I CAN'T GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC TIMELINE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, I KNOW IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, IF THE BOARD ALLOCATES, X-MILLION DOLLAR, CAN WE GET IT NOW. IT'S GOING TO BE A MONTH TO A FEW MONTHS AT BEST.

>> THE SYSTEM THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, I KNOW IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PUT ON THIS LIST IF STAFF DIDN'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A GREAT PUBLIC BENEFIT AND I'M NOT ADVOCATED FOR THAT AGAINST HOME AGAIN OR PITTING ONE AGAINST THE OTHER. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT PUTTING THAT ON THE LIST FOR CONSIDERATION. THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ON THAT. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. JERIMIAH. >> THANK YOU, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO TOOK TIME AWAY FROM WORK AND FAMILIES TO ADVOCATE. THESE ARE CHALLENGING DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AND I THINK EVERYONE TAKING THE TIME TO COME IN AND ARTICULATE THIS AND SOMETIMES WHILE HERE AS DECISION MAKERS AND POLICY HOLDERS, THERE ARE SO MANY CONFLICTING NEEDS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS REMINDER. HAVING SAID THAT, I DON'T WANT TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CRITICAL NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO ADDRESS AS WELL. IF WE HAD A HURRICANE, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOUR RADIO'S ARE UPGRADED. IF THERE ARE LONG OVERDUE UPGRADES THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE FOR A LONG

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I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, THROUGH THE CHAIR, MR. CONRAD, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY SEVERAL SPEAKERS, AS I WAS LISTENING AND MAKING NOTES, I THINK IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, TO TRY AND ADDRESS THESE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD

LOOK AT DOING? >> ABSOLUTELY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM, LET ME INDICATE TO YOU, AND I THOUGHT THAT I MENTIONED THIS WHILE PRESENTING TO YOU. EVEN THE $6 MILLION WILL PROBABLY NOT BE ENOUGH.

THE IDEA IS A FUNDING MECHANISM TO GET IT STARTED AND COMING BACK IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO STRIP MONEY FROM THAT. AND WHEN YOU FUND THAT, YOU LOSE SOMETHING ELSE. IF THE BOARD SAYS, HEY, WE WANT TO STRIP THAT, THAT'S OKAY. WE'RE HERE TO RESPOND TO YOU AND TO THIS COMMUNITY. BUT SOMETHING ELSE WILL GO, WHETHER IT'S A ROAD OR A PARK, WHATEVER, THAT'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT THAT SOMETHING ELSE WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE PLATE. I WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE THAT SAME UNDERSTANDING. SO, YES, SIR, THIS COULD BE FUNDED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AND IF THE BOARD DECIDES TO STRIP A PORTION OF IT OR ALL OF IT TODAY, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN THE WORK SHOP AND IF THE BOARD SAYS IN THE WORK SHOP THAT WE HAVE OTHER PRESSING NEEDS. WE WILL ADJUST AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

>> WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING TO UNDERSTAND AS POLICY MAKERS TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS. THANK YOU TO YOU FOR THE HARD WORK AND I KNOW A LOT OF EFFORT WENT INTO THIS AND PARTNERING WITH THE COMMUNITY. BUT COMING BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I TAKE YOUR WORDS TO HEART ON WHAT YOU SAID IN THE BEGINNING. I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES HERE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MISS. I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR HOW TO TAKE THESE FUNDS AND ADDRESS THE PRESSING NEEDS IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND COME BACK IN THE BUDGET PROCESS TO ADDRESS THE EXISTING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE

ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. >> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WALDRON, DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. A LOT OF GOOD SPEAKERS AND A LOT OF NEEDS. PERSONALLY, I THINK WE COULD ADDRESS SOME OF OUR NEEDS IN THE BUDGET ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS YEAR AND FROM LAST YEAR. I THINK THAT WHATEVER THE BOARD'S THOUGHTS ARE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, ANY VOTE ON THIS, I WILL RECUSE BECAUSE I HOME PROPERTY STRAIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE HOME AGAIN'S TALKING ABOUT. AND I HAD MY BROTHER TALK WITH ANOTHER GROUP ABOUT POSSIBLY PURCHASING THE PROPERTY. I WILL RECUSE MYSELF UNTIL WE GET A -- WE PUT IN A REQUEST TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND WE'RE WAITING ON A RESPONSE.

>> OKAY. >> CHAIR DEAN: THAT'S ALL?

>> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR DEAN: THANKS, PAUL.

APPRECIATE IT. WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WE GO AT THIS POINT IS IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS, AND IF WE NEED A VOTE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT, MY POSITION AND RECOMMENDATION TO EACH OF YOU IS THAT WE EACH HAVE AN BE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IN SOME DETAIL THE PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE FROM HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH ALMOST $3 MILLION AND I'M NERVOUS ABOUT MAKING A QUICK DECISION TODAY THAT MAY BE ALL OF US HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO VET AND COME BACK AND MAKE A DECISION. I MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE TO HAVE THE LUXURY OF A MEETING WITH THE HOME AGAIN REPRESENTATIVES YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE POINT IS, THAT, I FEEL THAT THERE IS A MUCH GREATER NEXUS BETWEEN THE PANDEMIC AND THE HOMELESS THAT LIVE IN THIS COUNTY AND NEED OUR HELP AND I FEEL THAT NEXUS IS STRONGER THAN THE NEED. AND I KNOW IT'S A NEED FOR US AS A COUNTY TO WORK FOR EFFICIENTLY WITH THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED. I KNOW THAT WE NEED THAT. BUT, MY RECOMMENDATION TO EACH OF YOU TODAY IS THAT WE DEAL WITH THAT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, I CAN'T PROMISE WHAT THE NUMBERS WILL BE IN OUR VALUATIONS, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD A TENTATIVE NUMBER THAT'S PRETTY HIGH, IN DOUBLE FIGURES AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES FOR THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR. SO, I'M REASONABLE COMFORTABLE THAT I THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE EVEN IF WE HAD TO PHASE IT OVER A TOR OR

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JEREMIAH? >> I WOULD AGREE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT TODAY IF WE TAKE ACTION, WE SHOULD WORK ON MOVING FORWARD

WITH HOME AGAIN. >> AND I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MR. DAVIS AND I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING. I THINK AT LEAST TODAY, IF WE'RE TAKING ACTION, THAT'S THE AREA WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.

>> OKAY. >> I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH HHOME AGAIN, YESTERDAY. AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE ASKING AND THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE TODAY ARE COMPELLING, AND I MOVE FORWARD WITH MOVING FORWARD

WITH HOME AGAIN. >> I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE BACKGROUND AND THE LEADERSHIP AND SO, I WOULD SUPPORT MOVING

FORWARD WITH THIS AS WELL. >> CHAIR DEAN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'LL TRY AND CAPTURE WHAT I TRIED TO RAMBLE ON A MINUTE AGO. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MOVE THAT WE DIRECT WITH STAFF TO WORK WITH HOME AGAIN TO COME BACK TO US WITH A SPECIFIC BRIEFING AND RECOMMENDATION ON THE APRIL 5TH MEETING WITH A PROPOSED GRANT OF SOME KIND THAT WE CAN REVIEW IN SOME DETAIL THAT WOULD BASICALLY FUND THE $2.8 MILLION PROJECT OUTLINED IN A LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 16TH, 2022, FROM MR. MIKE DAVIS TO MS. JOY ANDREWS WHICH OUTLINES A BREAKDOWN OF THE COST AND I THINK, PERSONALLY, I THINK WE NEED ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT IN DETAIL. I WOULD MOVE THAT WE BRING THIS BACK WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON

APRIL 5TH FOR US TO CONSIDER. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL SECOND

THAT. >> CHAIR DEAN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> YES, SIR. >> CHAIR DEAN: AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON IS RECUSING HIMSELF. AND SO, I WILL VOTE YES.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> YES.

>> CHAIR DEAN: AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> YES. >> AND THAT TAKES CARE AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO THE HAD GONE ST. JOHNS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR THOUGHTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONVEY TO STAFF.

I KNOW THAT HUNTER IS ASKING FOR COMMENTS, SO, WE NEED TO GIVE HIM SOME POLICY DIRECTION, MAY BE, I THINK IF I'M READING HIM

RIGHT. >> YES, SIR, FIRST OF ALL, THE HOME AGAIN DIRECTION, THANK YOU, WE'LL COME BACK. WE'LL BRING BACK SOMETHING WITH MS. WALL DONE AND MR. DAVIS TO PRESENT TO YOU. I THINK THAT YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE A MOTION ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FOR PHASE II BUT BASED ON THE P COMMENTS I HEARD FRO AND THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY, STRIP THE $6 MILLION OUT OF THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM, I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING YET FROM ANY OF YOU ALL ABOUT THE PREMIUM PAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OR THE EXTERIOR GRANT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. SO, I THINK TO BEGIN WITH, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT IN PHASES IS REMOVING THE $6 MILLION AND GO AHEAD AND APPROPRIATING AND TAKING A VOTE, MINUS THE $6 MILLION, ON THE PHASE II UNLESS THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE TODAY. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HEAR AND LISTENING, IF YOU TAKE OUT THE $6 MILLION, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PULL UP THE POWER POINT FOR ME, SO THAT THE BOARD CAN SEE AND I CAN WALK THEM THROUGH JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO, IF YOU TAKE OUT THE $6 MILLION, IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $14.5 MILLION. THERE'S A LITTLE

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THE ALLOCATED WOULD BE $22 MILLION, I'M USING APPROXIMATE NUMBERS. AND THE REMAINING FUNDS WOULD BE 28 AND SO IF THERE'S DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TODAY, YOU COULD APPROPRIATE IT TODAY AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GRANT AGREEMENTS TO BRING BACK TO YOU. THERE NEEDS TO BE DUE DILIGENCE TO BRING HOME AGAIN. BUT IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON THE BOARD HOW YOU WANT IT'S $28 MILLION, MINUS THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE.

AND A LARGE NON-PROFIT/GRANT PROGRAM FOR A LOT OF THESE OTHER AGENCIES. BUT, IF YOU GUYS HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TODAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

>> I'M PREPARED TO I CAN MA A MOTION GIVEN THAT CLARIFICATION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ARPA PHASE 2 FUNDING ALLOCATION REMOVING THE ENTERPRISE RESOURCE PLANNING SYSTEM AND INCLUDING THE 5% ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT

ALLOCATION. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> AND MR. CHAIR, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, I NEED YOU TO APPROVE THE TWO FTES, THEY MUST BE

APPROVED BY THIS BOARD. >> I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO'

FLECKED THE TWO FTES. >> SECOND.

>> CHAIR DEAN: SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND I WILL

CALL A VOICE VOTE. MR. BLOCKER? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF HERE OR NOT? I DON'T KNOW IF BRADLEY ANSWERED

THAT. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THIS ITEM INCLUDES HOME AGAIN IN IT, THIS IS JUST ON THE ALLOCATION PLAN.

NOT KNOWING THE DETAILS ON THE BASIS OF YOUR RECUSAL, I THINK

THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE. >> OKAY. I VOTE YES.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> YES. >> CHAIR DEAN: AND COMMISSIONER

WHITEHURST? >> YES.

>> CHAIR DEAN: AND I VOTE YES, SO THAT PASSES 5-0. I WOULD, HUNTER, REQUEST THAT BASED ON ALL THE TESTIMONY WE HEARD THIS MORNING ON THE ARPA FUNDING, IF STAFF HAS ANY ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS, FOR THE APRIL 5TH MEETING IN ADDITION TO THE REVIEW OF THE HOME AGAIN ST. JOHNS PROPOSED GRANT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO BRING THOSE BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THAT MEETING BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM LOUD AND CLEAR.

OKAY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE MORE THING. ALSO FROM STAFF, JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL DIRECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE HAND RADIOS AND THE ENTERPRISE PLANNING RESRESOURCE SYSTEM IS A PART OF THIS ARPA FUNDING, THEN WHERE WOULD THOSE FUNDS COME FROM IN THE GENERAL BUDGET? I KNOW IT'S EARLY IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS, I KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET BASED ON THE TAXES, WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS HERE THAT MAY IMPACT OUR BUDGET GOING FORWARD.

WE HAVE AN $11 MILLION PIECE OF THE PIE AND A $6 MILLION PIECE OF THE PIE IF WE'RE GOING TO FUND THAT $17 MILLION DURING THE NORMAL BUDGETING PROCESS WHAT COULD THAT POTENTIALLY AFFECT AS

WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. >> OKAY.

>> CHAIR DEAN: ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING THIS MORNING AND SPEAKING. AND, WE WILL MOVE ON, I THINK WE CAN GET ONE OR TWO ITEMS IN BEFORE LUNCH BREAK.

[Items 5 & 6]

ITEM FIVE. >> MR. CHAIR.

>> CHAIR DEAN: FIVE AND SIX IS AN EX-PARTE. IF WE'RE TAKING FIVE AND SIX, LET'S DO EX-PARTE. GOOD CATCH. COMMISSIONER

BLOCKER, ANY EX-PARTE ON 5-6? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DID HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY MARCH 8TH, APPROXIMATELY 9:00 A.M. WITH MR. DOUGLAS BURNETT AND DAVID CONE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, SOME OF THE IMPACTS ON

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PROJECT. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON, ANY

EX-PARTE? >> YES, SIR, ON THURSDAY, MARCH 10TH AT 9:00 A.M., I MET WITH DOUGLAS BURNETT, DAVID COONE, BRIAN GAINS AND STAFF, WE DISCUSSED THE LOCATION, TRAFFIC, SURROUNDING PROJECTS. I DISCUSSED PROJECTS APROS HIGHWAY 17 TO GET OUT OF THE CHURCH AND GET OUT OF THE SUBDIVISIONS ON STATE ROAD 16. THAT'S IT MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> OKAY. ON WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9TH, I ALSO MET WITH DOUGLAS BURNETT, DAVID COONE, BRIAN GAINS TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES MENTIONED BY JERIMIAH AND PAUL.

>> ON THURSDAY, MARCH THE 10TH AT APPROXIMATELY 3:00 P.M., I MET WITH DOUGLAS BURNETT, DAVID COONE, BRIAN GAINS AND STAFF IN THE OFFICE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THE PARCEL, THE TRIPS, THE WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 16 AND THE SCHOOL SITE.

>> CHAIR DEAN: COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRWOMAN. ON THURSDAY, MARCH 10TH AT APPROXIMATELY 10:00 A.M., I MET WITH DOUGLAS BURNETT, DAVID COONE, BRIAN GAINS WE DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECTS, THE WIDENS OF STATE ROAD 16 AND THE DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS FOR THE

INFRASTRUCTURE. >> CHAIR DEAN: THANK YOU AND NOW WE'RE READY FOR THE PRESENTATION.

>> I'M BRIAN GAINS AND MY ADDRESS IS 2600 MATELYNN CENTER IN FLORIDA. THANKS AGAIN FOR MEETING WITH USSIOUS LAST WEEK AND ALLOWING US TO GET YOUR INPUT. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TALK PUD 2021-14 IS A PUD AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM OPEN RURAL TO PUD. THE PROPERTY IS 49 ACRES SITS WEST OF STATE ROAD, WEST OF STAYED ROAD 16. LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE WIN WARD RANCH DEVELOPMENT APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES NORTH OF I-95 AND THE STATE ROAD 16 INTERCHANGE AND JUST SOUTH OF THE GRGRAND OAKS DEVELOPMENT. COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD BACK IN DECEMBER ON THIS PROJECT, THAT NOBODY WAS IN ATTENDANCE EXCEPT FOR ME, MR. COONE AND TERESA BISHOP. THIS IS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SITE IS THE TURNING POINT CHURCH, AS I SAID, GRAND OAKS TO THE NORTH AND WIN WWARD RANCH TO THE SOUTH AND THE INTERCHANGE AT I-95 AND STATE ROAD 16. THIS IS A ZOOMED IN PICTURE OF THE SITE. THE SITE IS MOSTLY PASTURE. THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE WILL BE PRESERVED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE TO THE NORTH IS THE GRAND OAKS DEVELOPMENT. ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN YELL IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE. SOT SOUTH IS THE WINDWARD RANCH DEVELOPMENT AND OUR PROPERTY IS A 200 FOOT CORRIDOR THAT LEADS TO A LARGER TRACK OF LAND THAT'S PART OF THE STAR INVESTOR GROUP AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO WETLAND INVESTIGATION. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE CURRENT MAP IS RESIDENTIAL C EXCUSE ME, RURAL CIVIL CULTURE, YOU COULD SEE RESIDENTIAL C WITH

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>> I GUESS, I'LL GO TO THE, I'LL USE THE OVERHEAD IF NEED BE. BUT JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE GOT TACOU HIGH SCHOOL WHICH HAS BEEN BUILT AND OPEN UP FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR, AND ALSO ON THE HORIZON IS THE BEACH FRONT HIGH SCHOOL IN BETWEEN PEAKS SCHEDULED TO OPEN LATER THIS YEAR. ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE A NEW K-8 SCHOOL OPENING THIS YEAR AND ANOTHER K-8 SCHOOL PLANNED SOUTH WOODS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH A CLASSROOM EXPANSION SIMILAR TO MILL CREEK'S EXPANSION. A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ANOTHER NEW K-8 SCHOOL AND ALL ARE FUNDED ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THE WEBSITE.

SO, THERE ARE SCHOOLS COMES, SCHOOLS THAT ARE NEW, SCHOOLS THAT WILL BE IN PLACE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO, WE THINK THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE CAPACITY IF NOT AT ALL LEVELS,

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>> WE HAVE SUBMITTED OUR COURTESY APPLICATIONS FOR ST.

JOHNS COUNTY AND FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND AGAIN, WE'RE AWAITING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY CALCULATION FOR PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF $1,345,000 BASED ON THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC GENERATION.

116 PNP COUNTER TRIPS AND 88 TRIPS PROJECTED SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY. AT THIS TIME, WE'VE HAD SOME, WE HEARD Y'ALL WHEN WE SPOKE TO YOU LAST WEEK AND TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION IS A BIG ISSUE THIS THIS CORRIDOR GENERALLY AND JUST IN THE COUNTY AND THE GROWTH, THEY'RE HIGH GROWTH AREAS IN THE COUNTY. SO WE REACHED OUT TO STAFF AND ASKED THEM ABOUT WHAT OTHER ITEMS ARE THEY LOOKING FOR IN THIS GENERAL AREA THAT COULD SUPPORT GENERAL TRANSPORTATION ALONG STATE ROAD 16. SO, MR. BURNET'S GOING TO SHOW YOU, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

>> ASK THEM TO TURN ON THE OVERHEAD UPSTAIRS IF THEY WOULD.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE GOT BACK AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKING THE ROUNDS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, WE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, FOR EXAMPLE, OKAY, YOU'RE MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, WHAT MORE KUDO FOR THE COUNTY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAME ABOUT IS BRIAN CONTACTED TRANSPORTATION AND I THINK WERE INVOLVED AS WELL, AND THE AREA THAT I'M SHOW YOU IN YELLOW AT ONE TIME THIS WAS GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL POD SITE BUT AS YOU COULD SEE THERE'S NO POSSIBLY WAY THAT ACCESS WOULD ALIGN WELL WITH THE CHURCH AND MAY CAUSE A CONFLICT AND SO THAT WAS ABANDONED AND NEVER PART OF THE PROJECT. BUT THIS SITE WAS IDENTIFIED AND WE OBTAINED THE INFORMATION FROM YOUR STAFF THAT THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA FOR STORM WATER RETENTION RELATED TO THE EXPANSION OF STATE ROAD 16. AND THIS AREA'S NEEDED FOR TO HANDLE STORM WATER COMING OFF OF THAT EXPANSION. SO, THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF LEARNING THIS, WE TALKED TO THE FOLKS AT TAYLOR MORESON, OUR CLIENT, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO TELL US THAT WE CAN COMMIT TO YOU HERE TODAY THAT WE WILL AS PART OF THE PROJECT COMMIT TO DONATING TO THE COUNTY OVER AND ABOVE ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THE PROJECT, DONATING TO THE COUNTY A MINIMUM OF A HALF ACRE OF STORM WATER CAPACITY ON THIS SITE AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A REVISED SITE PLAN TO YOU, BUT, HOW TO ADJUST TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ADDITIONAL HALF ACRE OF STORM WATER AND IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN, WHICH WE WILL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT, OUR RECOGN RECOGNIZE RATION IS PART OF THAT, AND WE WILL DONATE TO THE COUNTY AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER WALDRON IS LISTENING, IT'S A TRUE DONATION TO THE COUNTY A MINIMUM OF A HALF ACRE OF STORM

WATER CAPACITY ON THE SITE. >> AND WE WOULD BUILD IT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND IT WOULD BE A PART OF OUR SYSTEM.

>> THAT'S AN IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT IS BROUGHT UP.

IT WOULD BE DONATING THE CAPACITY, AND NOT THE STRUCTURE ORLAND. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE ASSOCIATION'S AND IT WILL BE BUILT, SO ACTUALLY BIG THE POND AS WE'RE DIGGING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT POND IS LARGER AND HOLDS STORM WATER FOR YOUR PROJECT, SO, PERMITTING AND ACTUALLY BUILDING IT AND CONSTRUCTING IT, IT WILL BE THERE SITTING AN WAITING FOR THE STATE/COUNTY'S PROJECT.

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>> AND IF YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE POWER POINT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. SO THE POND IN THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY THE POND THAT SUPPORTS THIS PROGRAM AND THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO EXPAND THAT POND AND AS MR. BURNETT SAID, WIDEN IT AROUND TO THE NORTHWEST SIDE AND INTO THE AREA IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE AMENITY AND ALL LIKELIHOOD, WE WILL HAVE TO -- SORRY.

SO THERE'S THE POND, THE AMENITY SITE HERE AND THEN WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO REMOVE ONE OR TWO LOTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE AREA IN THAT SITE AND AGAIN, WE WOULD BUILD THE POND THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG WITH THIS POND AND ACCOMMODATE BOTH THE DRAINAGE FOR THE SITE AS WELL AS THE DRAINAGE FOR THE ROADWAY EXPANSION AS IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED AS WE UNDERSTAND IT. AS I SAID, WE HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF IMAGES, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALREADY, WANTED TO TOUCH ON.

THESE ARE A COUPLE BUILDING ELEVATIONS WE SHARED WITH YOU PROPOSED FOR THE SITE AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE THAT ARE POSSIBLE PRODUCT TYPES IN DEVELOPMENT.

AND AS AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL C ON THE SITE UP TO CAP DENSITY OF 2.61 UNITS PER ACRE. WE BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE AREA IN GENERAL. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE NORTHWEST PLANNING SECTOR AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE'RE REQUESTING ONE WAIVER REGARDING SIDE YARD SETBACKS, THREE LOTS IN SITE. THE ONLY COMMENT OUTSTANDING IS AN ISSUE RELATED TO DOCUMENTING THE FINAL MAP.

ONCE IF APPROVAL IS RECEIVED AS A MYLAR.

THAT'S OUR REQUEST AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK ANY QUESTIONS YOU

HAVE. >> QUESTIONS.

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS 5 AND 6. WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON BOTH AGENDA ITEMS 5 AND NUMBER 6.

CHUCK L., NORTH CAPERO. POP UP THE OVERHEAD FOR ME.

I'M LOOKING HERE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXTENDING OUT THE RETENTION POND FOR THE COUNTY.

JUST WONDERING WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT? THE HOA OR THE COUNTY RESPONSIBLE? THEY WERE READING OFF A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS, WE DIDN'T SEE WHERE THOSE SCHOOLS WOULD BE. WE SAT HERE SAYING A SCHOOL HERE AND A SCHOOL THERE. NO NAMES OR LOCATIONS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 16. IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT ISSUE AS EVERYONE KNOWS. THIS WHOLE AREA HERE AND HERE ON 16 IS IN A BIG DEFICIT RIGHT NOW.

BIG ISSUE. AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED.

WE GO BACK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHURCH HERE.

IT'S NOT ONLY A CHURCH, IT'S ALSO A SCHOOL SO THERE'S CONSTANT TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THAT LOCATION.

SO WITHOUT THAT BEING WIDENED, IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE HOMES GO IN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE THERE.

THE COUNTY IS NOW PROVIDING TRAFFIC CONTROL IN THAT

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WE CAN'T KEEP LOADING IN ALL THIS TRAFFIC INTO 16.

IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

THE COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO BE HOLDING BACK A LITTLE BIT ON DEVELOPMENT. DOESN'T SHOW IT HERE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. LEBNOWSKI.

ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR.

>> ED SLAVEN. AS WAS SAID AND DAVID EDWARDS TOLD ME. THIS IS A CHURCH AND A SCHOOL.

IT'S A TURNING POINT. AND THAT'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC THERE WITHOUT PROTECTION FOR THE PEOPLE.

118 NEW HOMES. COULD WE POSSIBLY CRAM ANY MORE HOMES INTO THIS COUNTY THAT ARE NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? COULD WE POSSIBLY RUIN THE LIFE WE HAVE WITH ANY MORE HOMES? LET'S HAVE A MORATORIUM ON THIS. THIS WAS A VOTE 2-3.

WE HAVE NO TRANSCRIPT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PZA WAS THINKING. WE USED TO HAVE A STAFF PERSON COME UP AND TELL YOU WHAT THE PZA DID.

THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

THREE PEOPLE DISSENTED FROM THIS.

WE NEED TO REQUIRE EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE THAT COMES TO YOU AS THE PZA TRANSCRIPT AND LET THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR IT.

THEY CAN AFFORD IT. LET THEM PROVIDE A TRANSCRIPT.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO DENY THIS PROPOSAL.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT TURNING LANES AND THEY'RE AMENDING THE PROPOSAL AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

THEY'RE DOING IT ON THE FLY. THEY'RE NOT PREPARED.

THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK. THEY DON'T, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES AND AGAIN THIS IS WHERE TURNING POINT IS. IT'S BOTH A CHURCH AND A SCHOOL.

ARE YOU GOING TO SUBJECT THE SCHOOLCHILDREN AND PARISHIONERS TO THIS TRAFFIC WITHOUT ANY STUDY OR RIGOR? WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT'S HOLY DOESN'T ST. JOHN'S COUNTY REQUIRE A TRANSCRIPT? A FEW YEARS AGO THE CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE SAID IF YOU WERE APPEALING FROM A LOWER BOARD, YOU HAD TO PROVIDE A TRANSCRIPT. HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, YOU CAN GO TO PZA AND THEN JUST BUMP YOUR GUMS HERE AND HE BARELY EVEN KNOWS HOW TO USE A MICROPHONE.

HE'S WHISPERING. IT WAS REALLY HARD TO HEAR IN THE BACK. WE WERE SITTING IN THE BACK AND COULDN'T HEAR WHAT MR. BURNETT WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS MALARKEY. THERE ARE TOO MANY PROPOSALS COMING TO THE BOCC THAT ARE NOT BACKED BY GOOD SCIENCE, BY GOOD STUDIES. BY GOOD TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.

AND THEY ARE RUINING THIS COUNTY.

FASTER THAN A SPEEDING DUMP TRUCK THEY ARE DESTROYING WHAT WE KNOW AND LOVE HERE. DESTROYING THE WILDLIFE AND WETLANDS AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

MEANWHILE, THEY CONTRIBUTE LOTS OF MONEY TO LOTS OF CAMPAIGNS ENOUGH. ENOUGH ALREADY.

AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE LUDZ SAID TO ME.

THEY WERE WIDENING I-95. WIDENING IT.

HE SAID, IF YOU HAD A SEWAGE PIPE DUMPING INTO YOUR BACKYARD, WOULD YOU MAKE IT BIGGER? PLEASE DENY THIS PROPOSAL.

AND PLEASE REQUIRE YOUR STAFF AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TO HAVE ACTUAL TRANSCRIPTS OF PZA AND MAYBE A STATEMENT OF WHAT PZA ACTUALLY DISCUSSED. IT WAS A 4-3 VOTE.

PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU MR. SLAVEN.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, BETH BREEDING, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. WITH ALL THE RENTAL PEOPLE COMING IN, IT'S HARDER AND HARDER FOR SOMEONE TO OWN A HOME, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS YOU CAN'T FIND IT. REASON STATE ROAD 16 HASN'T BEEN WIDENED IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE STORMWATER.

THE WAY TO FIX THAT TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS IS THE STORMWATER AND THIS IS A BIG HELP GETTING THAT DONE PROVIDING THAT. THEY ARE DONATING.

NO IMPACT FEE CREDIT. THEY'RE COMING TO THE TABLE TO TRY AND SOLVE A BIGGER PROBLEM IN THE AREA.

THAT IS NOT A LOT OF HOMES. THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE SCHOOL NEXT DOOR WHEN IT GETS BUILT.

I THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU UNDERSTANDS THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES NOT BUILD WITH ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.

THEY BUILD AND IT'S ALREADY FULL BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE RULES GO.

SO YOU CAN'T -- THEY'VE GOT TO CONTRIBUTE FOR THEM TO BUILD THE NEXT SCHOOL AND THE NEXT SCHOOL. IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT THAT THE RULES FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD ARE WHAT THEY ARE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS 5 AND 6?

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>> THANK YOU. B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE IN THE CITY LIMITS 8 NEWCOME STREET.

DEVELOPERS HAVE TO GET UP AND SPEAK FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS.

I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME. I WANT TO BE SPOKEN CLEARLY.

THIS EITHER NEEDS TO BE DENIED OR SEND BACK TO THE PZA SINCE THERE WAS A 4-3 VOTE. THERE'S A REASON THREE PEOPLE ON THAT PZA SAID NO. BUT THE FOUR GOT IT PASSED.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH VOTING.

I HOPE THE GENTLEMEN THAT SHOWED THAT INFORMATION GAVE A COPY TO THE CLERK BECAUSE I WANT A COPY OF THAT.

I'M WORKING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT STUFF.

DEVELOPERS CAUSED AND CONTINUE TO CAUSE IMPACT ON ROADS.

IT ALL GOES BACK TO THIS -- MEETING WE HAD THIS MORNING FOR AN HOUR. WE ALL HAD TO WAIT.

PEOPLE HAVE POWER TO DO WHAT THEY WANT IN THIS ROOM.

SO IT GOES BACK TO GREED VERSUS LIVEABILITY.

AND THE IMPACT ON THE TRAFFIC IS CONTINUING AND WILL CONTINUE AND WHATEVER THEY HAVE PUT INTO THIS AGREEMENT STANDING UP HERE DOING IT INSTEAD OF GOING BACK TO THE PZA AND GIVING ALL THE INFORMATION AND THEN WHEREVER YOU GET IT, WE WON'T BE WASTING TIME WITH THE LAWYERS AND DEVELOPERS.

THIS IS WRONG SO I WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT TOO.

SO, ARE THESE GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE? NO. DEVELOPERS WANT TO COME UP HERE AND TALK DURING THE OTHER HOUR MEETING ABOUT WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE NEED THIS AND WE NEED THAT.

THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND HAVE THESE AGENDA ITEMS AND WE SIT HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND ON IT NOW WILL NOT BE WHAT WILL BE SPENT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF THE INFLATION. REMEMBER OUR GAS, FILLING UP YOUR GAS TANK. SO TWO CHOICES DENY IT OR SEND IT BACK TO THE PZA. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS 5 AND 6? ANYBODY ELSE? SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU.

RESPONSE MR. BURNETT? >> THANK YOU.

BRIAN IS GOING TO JOIN ME AS WELL TO FILL IN THE GAPS WHERE I MISS OR ADDITIONAL POINTS. I GUESS I WANTED TO SAY BRIEFLY AND THIS IS FOR THE FOLKS WATCHING OF COURSE OR IN THE AUDIENCE, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THIS ALL TOO WELL.

IT IS VERY EASY TO FIND OUT WHAT HAS GONE ON IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING IF YOU GO TO THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WEBSITE.

LOOK AT GTV. CLICK THE LINK AND NOT JUST THE LIVE BROADCAST OF TODAY IS VISIBLE BUT ALSO ALL OF THE HISTORICAL ONES. IF YOU WANT TO SEE PZA'S FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING, YOU CAN GET THERE FROM A COMPUTER OR SMARTPHONE. RELATED TO THE ISSUES ON THIS PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

YOU LOOK AT THE AREA, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE ONE WE'VE GOT A PROJECT THAT HAS A SMALL IMPACT, SMALL FOOTPRINT, 118 LOT PROJECT. TO THE NORTH OF US, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPOSE ON OR DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THERE WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT.

IT'S THE SCHOOL BOARD SITE. SO, GREAT SEPARATION THERE FROM ANYTHING ELSE. TO THE SOUTH OF US, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE OUR 35 DEVELOPMENT EDGE ON THE SOUTH.

THERE'S A 200 FOOT ACCESS GOING BACK TO I'M NOT SURE OF THE EXACT TECHNICAL BUT RELATED TO STAR FOUR.

WHISPER RIDGE IS A MODERATE ENOUGH PUD THEY HAVE THE 35 FEET ON THEIR NORTHERN BOUNDARY AS WELL.

SO YOU WIND UP WITH LOOSELY 270 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN OUR SOUTHERN MOST LOT AND WHISPER RIDGE MOST NORTHERN LOT LINE.

YOU STILL HAVE THE SETBACKS FOR THE REAR YARDS ON THE HOME.

GREAT THING, IS ON THE AERIAL AND BRIAN, CAN YOU CLICK BACK A COUPLE SLIDES ON THE PRESENTATION WHERE IT GETS BACK TO THE SITE PLAN OR AERIAL EITHER ONE.

THAT SITE THAT WE HAVE DRAWN IN AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, WHERE WE HAVE THE POND IN THE LOWER RIGHT PORTION OF THE PROJECT, A PROJECT FOR THIS PROPERTY BEFORE TAYLOR MORRISON HAD THAT AREA BEING A 1-ACRE COMMERCIAL PAD SITE.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD CAUSE MORE TRANSPORTATION DIFFICULTY SAYS FOR THE SCHOOL. THIS ISN'T A THREAT BECAUSE YOU GUYS KNOW MY STYLE. I DON'T COME UP HERE AND

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YOU CAN SECURE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AS NO COST TO THE COUNTY. IT'S A DONATION TO THE COUNTY ASIDE MEETING EVERY OTHER REQUIREMENT THAT THE COUNTY WILL PUT FORWARD. THERE'S ONLY ONE WAIVER AND RELATED TO CORNER LOTS SO THE PERSON WITH A CORNER LOT DOESN'T HAVE THEIR YARD SHOVED INTO A REAR LOT AND HAVE A BIG FRONT YARD AND SMALL REAR LOT. THAT'S THE ONLY PURPOSE OF THE WAIVER. OTHERWISE IT'S FOR THE THE PORPORTIONATE OF PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

WHATEVER THE SCHOOL BOARD REQUIRES WE WILL DO.

CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL WE WILL DO.

THERE'S NOT A LAST-MINUTE CHANGE.

IT'S A LAST-MINUTE OFFER AS PART OF THE APPROVAL THAT THE DEVELOPER IS OFFERING TO THE COUNTY IF TAYLOR MORRISON GETS APPROVAL AS PART OF THE PROJECT THEY ARE COMMITTING TO DONATING TO THE COUNTY, ONE HALF ACRE OF STORMWATER CAPACITY ON THE SITE IN THE BOTTOM CORNER WHERE IT'S PRESUMED TO BE NEEDED, AND THEY WILL COMMIT TO THAT AND OBVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL IF THAT REQUIRES A LOT OR TWO TO BE REMOVED OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO

STAND BY. >> JUST A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS. ONE OF THE SPEAKERS ASKED ABOUT MAINTENANCE.

THE POND WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS PART OF LARGER SYSTEM SO THAT'S CLEAR.

IN TERMS OF ACCESS, CURRENTLY THIS PLAN OBVIOUSLY IS A CONCEPTUAL LEVEL. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENGINEERING OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON STATE ROAD 16.

IT WOULD BE AT LEFT TURN WESTBOUND TURN INTO THE SITE THAT WOULD HELP TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AT THE INTERSECTION.

>> GOOD. GREAT POINT, BRIAN.

THERE ALREADY IS AN EXISTING LEFT CENTER TURN LANE AT THE TURNING POINT FROM CALVARY. THAT LEFT CENTER TURN LANE WOULD HAVE TO BE WIDENED ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO OUR SITE.

WE TRIGGER THAT REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S A SITE RELATED COST INDEPENDENT OF THE PROPORTIONATE FARE SHARE DOLLARS THAT WILL GET PAID TO THE COUNTY. WHATEVER THE SITE RELATED IMPROVEMENTS ARE WHICH INCLUDE OFF SET IMPROVEMENTS, THE TURN LANE, THAT'S INDEPENDENT OF THE PROP SHARE DOLLARS THE COUNTY

GETS. >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO

ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS, CHRISTOPHER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A QUESTION WAS ASKED WHO IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THE POND SITE? THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

>> THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. THAT POND WOULD BE PART OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO THERE'S FOUR PONDS TOTAL.

IT WOULD BE PART OF THE MASTER SYSTEM.

THEIR DRAINAGE WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE OFF SITE

-- >> I THOUGHT I MAY HAVE HEARD

THAT. >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> YEAH YOU GET A BENEFIT BY THE FACT THE DEVELOPER WOULD DONATE THE CAPACITY.

YOU DO THAT IF THE FORM OF EASEMENT.

SO THE COUNTY GETS THE EASEMENT RIGHT TO PUT A MINIMUM HALF ACRE OF STORMWATER ON THE SITE. THE COUNTY DOESN'T MAINTAIN IT AND DOESN'T COME OFF THE TAX ROLLS.

IT'S STILL TAXED AS PART OF THE COMMON AREA AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WHETHER OUR STORMWATER POND CONNECTED WITH A JOINT USE POND OF THE COUNTY. WE HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM HALF ACRE REQUIREMENT OF YOUR STORMWATER AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON US. THERE'S NO CONFUSION TO WHO IS

RESPONSIBLE. >> ANOTHER QUESTION, YOU'RE DONATING THE POND SITE. YOU'RE NOT SEEKING IMPACT FEE

CREDITS FOR THAT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IT'S A TRUE DONATION. >> THE ONLY IMPACT FEE CREDITS WE SEEK IS RELATED TO THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE, THE STANDARD PROCESS YOU GO FORWARD RELATED TO THE TRANSPORTATION.

>> INTERESTING. DO WE HAVE SOMETHING FROM TRANSPORTATION HERE? I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I SIT ON THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION BOARD. IT'S A REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION

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WE KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

BUT MR., I KNOW YOU NEED TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> YEAH, GOOD MORNING, SIRS, JUST FOR THE PROCEDURE.

FONG WING, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND THROUGH

THE CHAIR, YES GO AHEAD SIR. >> SO, MR. NGUYEN, WHEN A BIG ROAD, STRETCH OF ROAD LANDS ON THE UNFUNDED LIST FROM THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS A TIMELINE WHEN WE CAN EXPECT THIS ROAD TO BE ADDRESSED? I KNOW WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS ROAD IS

DEFICIENT. >> WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF FUNDING AND THE PROJECT START?

>> WHAT IT MEANS BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUR COUNTIES WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND THE FOUR COUNTIES ARE COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING, I SAY COMPETING, IT'S BASICALLY JUST TO HAVE POWER CHECKS READY AND THE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO BE THE TOP FIVE PROJECTS ON A COUNTY'S LIST. AT LEAST CLOSE TO THE TOP FIVE.

SO ONCE IT IS BEEN RAISED BY US AND TO THE TPO AND THE DOT, THEY LOOKED AS THOSE FAVORABLY BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THEY'RE GOING TO EYE ON IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR.

THERE ARE TWO MAJOR PROGRAMS THAT DOT CAN USE.

ONE IS THEY HAVE FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR STATE FACILITIES.

AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE SURFACE TPO CONTROL DOLLARS AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY $17 MILLION THAT THE FOUR COUNTIES WE TOOK THE POSITION TO REVOLVE THAT MONEY.

SO EVERY FOUR YEARS IF YOU HAVE A PROJECTS THAT ARE READY, YOU KNOW THAT HAS RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE DESIGN AND YOU HAVE POND SITES THEN THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS COULD COME MUCH EASIER TO THE COUNTY. AND PART OF THE 17 OR APPROXIMATELY $17 MILLION DOT COULD HAVE DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS TO ADD TO THAT. APPROXIMATELY WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE MILES LEFT FROM IGP TO THE WEST MALL ENTRANCE.

WE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 70 TO $90 MILLION IN ORDER TO WIDEN THAT BASED ON TODAY'S DOLLARS.

SO, GRAND OAKS IS A COMPONENT OF THAT.

THEY ARE TRYING TO WORK TO RE-EVALUATE WHAT THEY CAN DO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR US. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF ABOUT 1.5 MILES OF WIDENING.

AND THEN THEY WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE ADDITIONAL POND SITES

FOR THIS STRETCH OF 16. >> I KNOW THIS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE, BECAUSE THIS LANDED ON THAT REGIONAL PRIORITY LIST, CAN WE EXPECT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING BECAUSE WE HAVE FUNDING FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG STATE ROAD 16.

WE KNOW WE HAVE AND IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED HERE WITH THIS BEING ON THE LIST, CAN WE EXPECT FUNDING DURING THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SUGGESTION? CAN WE REASONABLY EXPECT IT TO TAKE TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS. WHAT CAN THE RESIDENTS EXPECT IN TERMS OF TIMELINE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THIS ROAD TO

SORT OF BEGIN? >> TO BE REALISTIC, WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVEN YEARS OUT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH IS ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. BUT WE HAVE NO POND SITES.

AND THE DOLLARS WILL COME IN BUT UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS AND WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT BECAUSE OF THE 1.2 TRILLION TRANSPORTATION BILL THAT WAS PASSED BY CONGRESS IN NOVEMBER, SO THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT COMING DOWN TO US IN ORDER FOR US TO COMPETE SUBMIT GRANTS FOR. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT AS WELL.

AS WE HAVE LOCAL DOLLARS, OF BASICALLY ELEVATES OUR CHANCE OF RECEIVING THE OTHER PORTION OF THE FUNDING.

TYPICALLY, THEY ARE ASKING FOR 50% MATCH.

>> OKAY. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. >> MS. ARNOLD.

>> YES. THANK YOU.

I KNOW WE HAD SPOKEN IN THE OFFICE.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT A PAUSE ON THIS FOR WHEN YOU WOULD

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YEARS FROM THE WIDENING. >> DAVID CAN GIVE ME THE THUMB'S

UP OR DOWN ON THIS. >> IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE

YOURSELF, SIR. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. I'M DAVID KUN.

I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR TAYLOR MORRISON IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA, IN TERMS OF PUTTING A PAUSE ON THE PROJECT, WE DON'T YET OWN THIS PROPERTY. AND WE HAVE TO GO TO OUR CORPORATE OFFICE IN PHOENIX TO SEEK APPROVAL TO CLOSE.

FOR US TO DELAY THE PROJECT FOR TWO YEARS WOULD PUT US OUT OF CONTRACT WITH THE SELLER. AND WE COULDN'T BE ABLE TO CLOSE. AND IF WE BUY THE PROPERTY AND WAIT TWO YEARS TO BEGIN, THEN THE CARRYING COSTS MAKES THE

PROJECT FINANCIALLY NOT VIABLE. >> THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU, FONG.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WITH THE DONATION OF THAT STORMWATER SITE, HOW MUCH CLOSER DOES THAT GET US TO WHAT WE NEED IF TERMS OF PONDS? FOR THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY? BASED ON MY DISCUSSION WITH GRAND OAKS, THEY ARE LOOKING AT PROVIDING US 12 ACRES OF POND SITE AND THAT'S ROUGHLY AN ADDITIONAL HALF AN ACRE. WE ARE LOOKING AT 50% OF WHAT WE NEED. BECAUSE EVERY MILE OF TWO LANE, WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE ACRE PER POND SITES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE MILE STRETCH.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20 TO 25 ACRES OF POND

SITES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD A FEW. >> I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY, PAUL. I'M NOT SEEING YOU, I HAVE TO

REMEMBER YOU'RE WITH US. >> GO AHEAD.

>> THAT'S OKAY. ONE CONCERN I HAVE TOO, WE HAVE NO MULTIPLIER PUT INTO THAT PORTION OF FAIR SHARE.

WE'RE BASING THE NUMBERS OFF DOT FROM 2019 FONG TOLD ME OR 2020.

EVEN IF IT'S 2021, THAT WILL INCREASE DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE.

THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS, ON THE POND, I HAVE HEARD MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM. IS IT A HALF ACRE OR MINIMUM

HALF ACRE? >> IT'S A MINIMUM OF A HALF ACRE

SIR. >> SO WE NEED FOUR ACRES, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE FOUR ACRES? OR YOU'RE JUST GIVING A HALF

ACRE OF CAPACITY TO THE COUNTY? >> IT WAS A MINIMUM OF A HALF AN ACRE, BRIAN CAN SPEAK TO THIS BETTER.

WE THINK IT MAY BE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE .6, .7.

IT'S A MINIMUM HALF ACRE. WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT ENGINEERING TO KNOW IN THAT AREA WHAT IS GOING TO BE

NUMBER. >> YEAH.

I'M SORRY. BRIAN GAINS AGAIN.

THERE'S TWO PONDS LOCATED ALONG STATE ROAD 16.

THE ONE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER IS THE ONE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS ANOTHER POND IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE SITE. WE DO NOT HAVE DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS AND INFORMATION YET.

WE'RE ESTIMATING BASED ON THE BASIN CRITERIA.

WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SOME WATER IN THE CENTRAL POND UP HERE ALONG STATE ROAD 16 AS WELL. WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN PUT IT IN AS OF YET. SO THE MINIMUM WOULD BE THE .5 WHICH WOULD BE DOWN IN HERE AND THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL MAYBE 1.1 OR 1.2 ACRES DEPENDING ON POND AREA REQUIRED FOR THAT.

>> OKAY. AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF MIKE ROBERSON IS

THERE OR TERESA. >> MIKE IS HERE, PAUL, IF YOU WANT TO FRAME THE QUESTION. IT WASN'T A QUESTION.

WHAT OTHER UNITS DO WE HAVE APPROVED ON STATE ROAD 16 IN THAT STRETCH? I SHOULD HAVE WARNED YOU.

I WAS OUT OF IT YESTERDAY. >> DID YOU SAY APPROVED AND NOT

YET CONSTRUCTED PAUL? >> YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. BETWEEN GRAND OAKS AND THE ONE WE APPROVED BACK DOORS TO THE OUTLET MALL.

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ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS I HAVE IS TIME.

WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HAVING ANY KIND OF THE SAFETY ISSUES ON STATE ROAD 16 HANDLED. YOU KNOW, SCHOOL CAPACITY IS ONE THING. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING ON HOW THE LAWS READ. WE DO HAVE TO HAVE CAPACITY ON OUR ROADS, SAFETY. YOU MAY HAVE TWO OR THREE ENTRANCES AND THAT STRETCH COMES TO BRIDGE IN BETWEEN THE CHURCH OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT OR OTHER LAND ACROSS THE ROAD THAT HAS, DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN ONLY BUILD CERTAIN THINGS.

THAT'S ASSUMING YOU HAVE A SCHOOL ENTRANCE ENTER CLOSE TO THEM. IT WOULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE THERE. THAT'S ALL I GOT MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> MR. CHAIR, MIKE ROBERSON, GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I BASICALLY HAVE A LIST OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE APPROVED BUT UNBUILT ALONG STATE ROAD 16. I'M JUST GOING TO MENTION SOME COMMISSIONER WALDRON. PALM LAKES, THIS WOULD BE STATE ROAD 16 JUST WEST OF IGP. INTERSECTION ARE TO I-95.

PALM LAKES, I WILL GIVE YOU A TOTAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

NORWOOD, COTTAGES OF ST. JOHN'S. WORLD GOLF VILLAGE APARTMENTS.

TCP C. THOSE UNITS TOTAL 2188.

THERE'S A WADES CREEK ALONG STATE ROAD 16 WEST OF SILVER LAKE PARK WAY. MAYBE NOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING BUT 115 UNITS. STATE ROAD 16 EAST OF I-95.

MAYBE STILL NOT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

478 UNITS THERE. STATE ROAD, SO STATE ROAD 16 WEST OF SILVER LAKE PARK WAY TO EAST I-95, 2781.

THIS WAS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT TOTAL TRIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

COMMISSIONER WALDRON. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S HELPFUL BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

YEAH THAT'S THE CONCERN HOW MANY WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVED IN THE AREA, AND JUST ADDING TO THOSE ISSUES WE HAVE.

YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT, I DON'T WANT TO END UP WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE ARE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION OR BAD SAFETY ISSUES ON THE ROAD FOR 20 YEARS BEFORE THEY EVER GET COMPLETED.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE CHAIRMAN.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, PAUL. ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY

COMMISSIONERS? >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

I REALLY DO LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT BUT I DO HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THE STATE ROAD 16 AND THE CONCERN IS HOW TO MANAGE THE GROWTH AND SLOW THE GROWTH. THE TIMING RIGHT NOW, I DON'T

FIND IDEAL. >> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, I CAN DOES DAVID KUHNS ONCE YOU FINISHED SPEAKING, DAVID WHAT IS THE ISSUE ON TIMING. THE FIRST HOME, HE COULD COMMIT TO NOT SELLING A HOME WITHIN 18 MONTHS OF APPROVAL.

THAT DELAYS IT AND THEN OBVIOUSLY HE WAS REMINDING ME THAT THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN WHAT IS REQUIRED AND WHAT THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDING WITH THE STORMWATER.

ANYWAYS. THOSE ARE TWO THINGS HE SAID TO

ME AFTERWARDS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY CPA SS 21 MAC V PROPERTY BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF

>> SECOND. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOICE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER >> YES.

COMMISSIONER >>

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> YES.

>> AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> YES.

AND I VOTE YES. SO THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0.

OKAY. WE HAVE ONE MORE WHAT MAYBE A RELATIVELY SHORT ITEM BEFORE I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LUNCH

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LET'S TRY TO GET THROUGH NUMBER 7 IF WE CAN.

AND SEVEN IS AN EX PARTE. COMMISSIONER DEAN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE DO NEED A VOTE ON THE RECORD FOR THE PUD ITEM,

ITEM NUMBER 6 PLEASE. >> I'M SORRY.

SO WE NEED A MOTION AND SECOND. >> IT'S 5 AND 6.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO DENY PUD 2021-14 MAC V PROPERTY BASED ON

[7. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-33 Oak Trail Preserve.]

>> >>

>> >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD,

>> YES. >> AND I VOTE YES.

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-0. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER ON 7.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD OF ANY

MEETINGS IN REGARDS TO THAT. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

ANY EX PARTE ON NUMBER 7? >> KAREN TAYLOR AND I SPOKE FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES BUT NEVER REALLY DISCUSSED THE PROJECT.

SHE TOLD ME IF I HAD QUESTIONS TO GIVE HER A CALL AND I DID NOT. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. YESTERDAY AT 1:31 P.M.

I MET WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND DANIEL OSTER FELD.

WE DISCUSSED THE WETLANDS AND THE POTENTIAL USES BY THE OWNERS OF THE PARCELS IN THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY FURTHEREST AWAY

FROM ROSCOE ROAD. >> ON MONDAY, I SPOKE WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

>> OKAY. I GUESS CHRISTIAN I FOLLOWED RIGHT BEHIND YOU YESTERDAY AT 2 O'CLOCK.

MEETING WITH KAREN AND DANIEL OFT FELD HOW THAT WILL WORK.

>> WE WILL HEAR FROM KAREN. >> GOOD MORNING OR I GUESS IT'S GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSA STREET. WITH ME IS DANIEL, TWO OF THE

APPLICANTS FOR THIS. >> I DID SEND AN E-MAIL TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER OUTLINING THINGS AND ASKING HIM IF HE HAD QUESTIONS TO CALL HE AND I ALSO SENT ONE TO AFTER SOME CANCELED APPOINTMENTS WITH COMMISSIONER WALDRON SENT ONE YESTERDAY.

SO THOSE ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE RECORD.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO OPEN RURAL. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT'S 34.26 ACRES BETWEEN ROSCOE BOULEVARD AT THE NORTH PART OF WILDERNESS TRAIL. YOU CAN SEE CANAL BOULEVARD THERE AS WELL. GIVE YOU THE RELATIONSHIP.

AGAIN THIS KIND OF A LITTLE CLOSER, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE TPC UP TO THE NORTHERN PART AND THE COUNTY WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AS WELL. AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THERE. THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS SITE IS DIFFERENT FOR EACH SIDE. AND WE DO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OWNERS SO IT IS RESIDENTIAL A FOR 2, FIVE-ACRE PARCELS ALONG ROSCOE AND THEN IT IS RESIDENTIAL B FOR THE WILDERNESS TRAIL LOTS WHICH ARE THE OTHER OWNERS AND THOSE ARE ALL 2.5 ACRE LOTS. A LOT OF PUD THERE AND A LOT OF OR. SO WE'RE ADJACENT TO A LARGE AMOUNT OF OR WHICH WE FEEL IS VERY COMPATIBLE IN TAKING THIS BACK FROM THE PUD. THAT'S THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CURRENT PUD AND I KIND OF INCLUDED THAT JUST TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS AND THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE.

THIS IS THE OLD PLAN. YOU CAN SEE WHY THE PLAN PROBABLY DIDN'T WORK. THERE IS A LITTLE LAKE THAT COMES THROUGH, CANAL TYPE LAKE THAT COMES THROUGH AND THEY WERE GOING TO FILL THAT WHOLE THING. SO THIS NEVER HAPPENED AND IT HAS NOW EXPIRED. A LITTLE WETLAND INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST TO KIND OF SUBSTANTIATE STUFF.

SO THIS IS THE BOUNDARY AND YOU CAN SEE THE TWO, FIVE-ACRE LOTS AS WELL AS THE 10, 2.5 ACRE LOTS.

I DID INCLUDE THIS AS WELL BECAUSE MR. GROSHEL LOT ON WILDERNESS HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS

>> THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOTS WOULD BE DIFFICULT AND THE

[03:35:03]

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE USES.

THESE ARE IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN OR.

A PICTURE OF THE FRONT OF THE SITE.

RIGHT LOOKING NORTH ON ROSCOE. AND THIS AREA SHOWS YOU ROSCOE, A DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO IT AND SHOWS THAT SYSTEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WETLAND SYSTEM THAT GOES THROUGH AND THE LAKE.

JUST FROM THE PLACE NEXT DOOR, JUST A LITTLE BIT AGAIN TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT. THIS KIND OF LOOKING BACK AND SHOWS YOU BOTH PIECES OF PROPERTY.

THIS IS THAT INTERNAL CANAL LAKE WETLANDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS GETS US TO WILDERNESS TRAIL AND ALSO YOU CAN SEE THE SEWER PLANT UP IN THE CORNER HERE.

AND JUST ALONG WILDERNESS TRAIL AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF. WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS COMPATIBLE AND REASONABLE FOR THIS AREA.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.

AND ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE DONE WITH IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE DID GET A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL AND WE'RE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL AND I'M HAPPY TO

ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON

ITEM 7. >> AT THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 7.

ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NONE. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 7. IF THERE AREN'T QUESTIONS, IS

THERE A MOTION? >> THERE IS MR. CHAIRMAN.

MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022 --

>> 20 >> APPROVING RESIDENCE 2021-33 OAK TRAIL PRESERVE BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE

REPORT. >> SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AGAIN VOICE

COMMISSIONER >>

>> OMMISSIONER >>

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> YES.

>> AND COMMISSIONERAR NOLD. >> YES.

>> AND I ALSO VOTE YES, THAT PASSES 5-0.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST NOW IF THE COMMISSIONERS AGREE, TAKE A HALF-HOUR LUNCH BREAK AND WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR 8-17, LESS 14 AND 16 WE DEALT WITH.

8-16 REMAINING, 8-17 >> SECOND READING OF THE

[8. Ponte Vedra Blvd Dual Driveway Amendment - Adoption.]

SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. AND JACOB SMITH IS HERE TO

ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> VERY GOOD.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. PRESENTING ITEM 8 FOR THE PONTE VEDRA DUAL DRIVE AMENDMENT. THIS IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

MR. BRAD WESTER DID GIVE YOU A DESCENT OVER VIEW LAST BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING. THE PONTE VEDRA MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT IS REQUESTING THIS AMENDMENT TO THE PONTE VEDRA CODE. I DO HAVE AN OVER HEAD ITEM ON THERE SO WE CAN SEE THAT LANGUAGE.

BUT ULTIMATELY THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR MORE THAN 1 DRIVEWAY, TWO TO BE SPECIFIC ALONG PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD IN THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO ANSWER THEM.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIR. >> THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY GOOD.

MR. CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE, MR. WALDRON IS TRYING TO CONNECT.

MAYBE TAKE A RECESS TO LET COMMISSIONER WALDRON GET ON THE LINE. WE CERTAINLY WANT PAUL TO JOIN

US. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> I'M HERE. >> THAT WAS QUICK

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DUAL DRIVEWAY PONTE VEDRA ITEM 8?

>> NO, SIR. >> AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 8. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. COME FORWARD.

>> SEEING NONE, CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 8

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>> THERE IS MR. CHAIRMAN IF YOU WILL ENTERTAIN IT.

>> THANK YOU. A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE

-- >> 21.

>> THANK YOU. APPROVING CHANGES TO AMEND SECTION THREE OF THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING DISTRICT RELATING

DRIVEWAY SEPARATION >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION AND SECOND.

WE WILL VOICE COMMISSIONER

>> YES, >> COMMISSIONER

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

YOO JUDGES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, YES.

>> AND I VOTE YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

THE NEXT THREE ITEMS ARE IMPACT FEE CREDIT TRANSFERS WHICH JUST TO SHED A LITTLE HISTORY ON THIS.

I, WE WANTED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP BEFORE WE RETURNED TO TAKING UP

[9. Road Impact Fee Credit Transfer - Fountains South PUD (DAR Investments One, LLC).]

WE SPENT TIME DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE AND SO, I WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD NOW WITH A SUBSTANTIVE CONSIDERATION EACH OF THESE TAKEN UP ONE AT A TIME AND SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH NUMBER 9.

>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M TOM INGRAM WITH SODL & INGRAM. I'M HERE FOR DARA INVESTMENTS ONE LLC. DAR INVESTMENTS ONE RECEIVED AN IMPACT FEE CREDIT FOR 110. THIS IS KNOWN AS THE FOUNTAINS WHICH IS THERE OFF COUNTY ROAD 210 AT THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF IT AND 95. IT'S APPROVED FOR 186,000 COMMERCIAL SPACE. NO RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE FOUNTAINS AND PERSONALLY DEVELOPED.

PROBABLY THE MOST WELL KNOWN AS GRUMPY'S RESTAURANT THAT'S THERE AND OTHER THINGS. THE REQUEST IS TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM THE MOUNTAINS TO THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS KNOWN AS FOUNTAINS NORTH AND FOUNTAINS EAST.

NORTH IS PREDOMINANTLY BEING DEVELOPED WITH ST. VINCENTS HOSPITAL. EAST CONTEMPLATES DEVELOPMENT MEDICAL OFFICES. THIS SHARES A COMMON ACCESS UP TO COUNTY ROAD 210 IN THE SAME ROAD IMPACT FEE DISTRICT.

UNDER THE STATUTE, IF A PROPOSED TRANSFER IS WITHIN THE SAME IMPACT FEE DISTRICT, THEN THERE'S NOT ANY FACTORS OR POLICY TO CONSIDER. WE WILL GET TO THAT ON THE NEXT ITEM WHERE YOU TRANSFER FROM ONE IMPACT FEE CREDIT DISTRICT TO ANOTHER. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE GIST OF IT. THEY HAVE $546,000 OF IMPACT FEE

CREDITS. >> ANY QUESTIONS

BOARD? >> PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> I THINK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> I'M SORRY, NOT ON.

>> NO WORRIES. THANK YOU MR. INGRAM.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING.

THE IMPACT TRANSFER CREDIT DOES NOT ABSOLVE ANY REQUIREMENTS THE

DEVELOPER HAS? >> YES, SIR, THAT IS CORRECT.

>> SO THERE'S STILL OBLIGATIONS THE DEVELOPMENTOR HAS TO

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY SO IF WE APPROVE THE IMPACT FEE TRANSFER THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE STILL UNDERSTOOD AND STILL

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MR. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THAT COMPLETES QUESTIONS. PUBLIC COMMENT ON 9?

>> YES, SIR. AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN UP FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 9. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

ED SLAVEN, ED SLAVEN.COM. DUE TO THE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA, I THINK WE NEED TO ASK THIS APPLICANT AND EVERY OTHER APPLICANT FOR EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD. WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS AND INVESTORS, EVERY SINGLE ONE AND IF THE DEVELOPERS WON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, ANYTHING THEY REQUEST SHOULD BE DENIED.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CHAIR TO ASK THE DEVELOPER WHO ARE THE

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EVERY SINGLE ONE. NAME INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY LAUNDERING GOING ON IN ST.

JOHN'S IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS.

PEOPLE ARE DYING IN UKRAINE. THEY ARE BOMBING THE CAPITOL FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, I DON'T EVER WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER DEVELOPER OR OFFICIAL SAY IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

WHICH IS WHAT I WAS TOLD BY MAYOR JOE VOLES.

I HAVE BEEN ASKING THIS QUESTION, WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS AND INVESTORS OR AS JUDGE LIT WOULD SAY.

WE BONO, WHO BENEFITS? WOULD YOU PLEASE FIND OUT AND WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT OFFICE TO CHANGE THEIR FORMS AND TO REQUEST THAT ANYBODY ASKING FOR ANY ZONING FAVOR IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. AND IF THEY'RE RUSSIANS, WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE PUBLIC POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ON

SANCTIONS AND I THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE

PUBLICITY ON AGENDA ITEM 9. >> B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. AGENDA ITEM 8, IMPACT FEE CREDIT TRANSFER PRESENTATION AT FEBRUARY 15, 2022, BCC MEETING WAS NOT LET ME REPEAT, WAS NOT PROPERLY ADVERTISED AS AN IMPACT FEE CREDIT WORKSHOP. THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DOES NOT COVER IN DETAIL THE WORKSHOP FOR IMPACT FEES BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP ON FEBRUARY 15TH. THE OCTOBER 25TH, 2021, LETTER IN YOUR PACKET DOES NOT SHOW THE AMOUNT TO BE TRANSFERRED TO BE $573,101.98. WHAT IS THE CORRECT AMOUNT THAT'S GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED? CAN THE DEVELOPER, THE LAWYER PUT THAT ON THE RECORD VERBALLY? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON

AGENDA ITEM NINE. >> WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE A MOTION? ITEM -- I BELIEVE THIS IS MY

DISTRICT MR. CHAIR. >> YES, SIR, IT IS.

I WILL MOVE TO ENACT RESOLUTION 2022-

>> 84. >> APPROVING USE OF THE UNUSED IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOUNTAINS PUD SOUTH AND OR THE FOUNTAINS EAST

[10. Road Impact Fee Credit Transfer - Vinings PUD (A & S Land Development Company).]

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ROLL CALL

COMMISSIONER >> YES,

>> COMMISSIONER >>

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> YES.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> YES.

>> AND I VOTE YES. >> NUMBER 10.

>> BETH ARE YOU UP? >> I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF.

BETH BREEDING, I WILL SAY A & S LAND THIS TIME.

10175 FORTUNE PARK WAY, JACKSONVILLE.

TO PLEASE THE GENTLEMEN IN THE AUDIENCE, THE OWNERS OF THIS ENTITY ARE GARY SILVER FIELD AND HIS TWO BOYS RYAN AND LEE SILVERFIELD. LONG TIME ST. JOHN'S RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPERS IN THE COUNTY. THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THIS IS SUCH AN OLD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

WE HAVE SO LONG SINCE SATISFIED 100% OF THE OBLIGATIONS, A PORTION OF THE ROAD WE HAVE WIDENED IS NOW SIX LANE.

AND THE REASON WE WEREN'T ABLE TO USE ALL OF THE IMPACT FEE CREDITS AT THE TIME, THIS WAS A MULTIDEVELOPER AGREEMENT, AND SO WE WERE ALMOST DONE WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THE OTHER DEVELOPERS CAME TO US AND SAID, LISTEN, WE COULD USE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO HELP WIDEN THIS ROAD, WILL YOU PARTICIPATE? THEY NEEDED RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM US.

WE SAID YES WE WILL PARTICIPATE. THE REST OF OUR PROJECT HAD PAID IN THEIR IMPACT FEES. THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T USE THESE IMPACT FEES. THEY WERE LITERALLY PAID TO THE COUNTY WITH CASH RATHER THAN BEING ABLE TO USE THE IMPACT FEE CREDITS. WE ARE TRYING TO USE THE CREDITS WITHIN .68 MILES ON COUNTY ROAD 10 AND SELL THEM TO DR HORTON TO HELP THOSE MAKE THE HOMES AFFORDABLE AND THE SILVERFIELD FAMILY DONATED $20,000 OF THE PROCEEDS TO THE SHIP

[03:50:05]

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

TOM TOM ING ING -- INGRAM FOR A AND S LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.

SO AS BETH BREEDING JUST SAID, SO THE AREA THAT AT ISSUE WAS FOR THE VININGS DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS WHERE WINNDIXIE IS TODAY. IT'S ROUGHLY TWO MILES TO THE PROPOSED TRANSFER EAST SITE WHICH IS BRIDGEWATER.

THE STATUTE PROVIDES IF YOU DONATE TO AN ADJOINING DISTRICT, DOES THE TRANSFEREE SITE RECEIVE BENEFITS FROM THE IMPROVEMENT OR CONTRIBUTION THAT RECEIVED THE CREDITS? IN HERE, I CAN EXPLAIN PRETTY QUICKLY THAT IT DOES.

SO, WE SHOWED EARLIER THE SLIDE SHOWING THE VARIOUS IMPACT FEE CREDIT DISTRICTS. THERE ARE FOUR IN THE COUNTY.

NORTHWEST, NORTHEAST, SOUTHEAST, SOUTHWEST.

THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BRIDGEWATER PUD AND I HAVE A FEW EXCERPTS.

ESSENTIALLY, COUPLE THINGS. ONE, THE BRIDGEWATER PUD IS WITHIN FOUR MILES OF THE AREA THAT WAS IMPROVED ASSOCIATED WITH A & S AND THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UNDER THAT A& S LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AND TWO OTHER DEVELOPERS WIDENED PART OF 210 FROM TWO LANES TO FOUR LANES BACK IN THE EARLY 2000S. SO WITH THAT, BASICALLY YOUR STAFF CONCLUDED BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE FOUR MILES, IT DOES RECEIVE A BENEFIT FROM THE EARLIER IMPROVEMENT BUT TO GO ON A LITTLE FURTHER, THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON BRIDGEWATER SHOWED THERE WAS 9% OF THE BRIDGEWATER TRAFFIC USING THAT PARTICULAR LANE DURING THE P.M. PEAK HOUR AND THIS WAS DONE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE BRIDGEWATER PROJECT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS ON ITEM 10. >> THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 10. WE ARE HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 10. B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF SAINT

AUGUSTINE. >> ITEM 10, THIS ITEM WAS NOT ADVERTISED AS IMPACT FEE WORKSHOP.

WORDS HAVE MEANING. THE DEVELOPER'S LETTER ON THIS AGENDA ITEM OF OCTOBER 1, 2021, SHOWS THE DEVELOPER IS DR HORTON. REMEMBER PEOPLE, EVERYONE SHOULD GOOGLE DRH TO SEE LAWSUITS AT THAT COMPANY.

HAS HAD TO GO TO COURT ON FOR THE WAY THEY CONSTRUCT BUILDINGS. IT'S AVAILABLE INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY. AND I TRULY WISH THIS DEVELOPER COULD HAVE GIVEN SOME OF THESE CREDITS TO STOKES LANDING AND U.S. ONE, THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT THERE, WORK FORCE HOUSING. DONE SOMETHING TO HELP OUT ON THAT INTERSECTION U.S. ONE FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 10? SEEING NONE. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE

>> OKAY. DISTRICT 1.

>> I BELIEVE IT IS. I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION SO I WILL. MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION --

>> I'M SORRY, >> YES, SIR.

>> YES, SIR. PREVIOUS DISCUSSLY DISCUSS -- PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AND YOU TOLD COMMISSIONER BLOCKER

EVERYONE WOULD BE DONE. >> YES.

I BELIEVE THIS QUESTION WENT TO THE FOUNTAINS DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL PUD AND YES, SO, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE OBLIGATIONS OF THE DEVELOPER UNDER THAT PUD, THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THOSE OBLIGATIONS. THE DEVELOPER IN THE FOUNTAINS DONATED RIGHT-OF-WAY OR DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR COUNTY ROAD 210 AND RECEIVED IMPACT FEE CREDIT.

THE THERE WAS NOT A PROPORTIONATE SHARE AGREEMENT THAT IS TIED TO THAT AT LEAST UNDER THE AMENDED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN A FEW YEARS AGO.

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>> YES, SIR. THE QUESTION I HAD THEN WAS, IF THEY'RE STILL HAVING TO DO THE WORK THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, WHY WOULD THEY BUY IMPACT FEE CREDITS?

>> THE, SO IN THE CASE OF THE FOUNTAINS --

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FOUNTAINS.

>> SO ON THIS ONE. THIS IS A & S LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. THIS WAS A PROJECT DONE IN THE EARLY 2000S AND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT WAS COMPLETED LITERALLY OVER A DECADE AGO. IT JUST, I THINK BETH EXPLAINED EARLIER, THEY HAD CREDITS THEY RECEIVED AFTER A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAD ALREADY OCCURRED THERE.

>> THERE WILL BE SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT DR HORTON WOULD HAVE TO DO TO PUT THESE IMPACT FEE CREDITS TOWARD.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING WITH DR HORTON, THEY ARE BUILDING A ROAD CALLED MOON BAY PARK WAY WHICH ACCESSES THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE RECEIVING ANY IMPACT FEE CREDITS. I BELIEVE THAT IS COMPLETE AND BEEN UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR A WHILE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY HAVE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE OBLIGATION.

>> WHY ARE THEY BUYING IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE THE COUNTY REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEES IN CASH OR CREDIT TO BE PAID IN ASSOCIATION WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT.

>> AND WHO WOULD MAKE UP THE SHORT FALL?

>> THE IMPACT FEES ARE INTENDED TO OFF SET THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT. SO AND YOUR STUDY THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONED AND APPROVED CONCLUDES THAT THE PAYMENT OF IMPACT FEES DOES SATISFY THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

YOU COME UP WITH A VOUCHER OF $150,000 OF IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

CASH OR CREDITS, WHO MAKES UP THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE ROAD WORK? AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE INTERSECTION OR WHATEVER IS REQUIRED FOR YOU TO DO WITHIN

THE FOUR-MILE RADIUS? >> THERE'S NOT SOMETHING TO MAKE UP. SO, EVERY DEVELOPMENT IS OBLIGATED TO PAY ITS PROPORTIONATE SHARE TO PAY LAWFUL EXACTION. THEY ARE INTENDED TO BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE IMPACTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT.

MR. WHITEHURST. >> YES, SIR.

SO AGAIN I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT 2022-85.

>> APPROVING TRANSFER OF $153,000 IN ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM THE VININGS PUD TO THE BRIDGEWATER PUD FINDING THE

[11. Road Impact Fee Credit Transfer - Treaty Ground PUD (Double Eagle Development, LLC).]

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. COMMISSIONER

>> YES, COMMISSIONER

>> >> COMMISSIONER

>> >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> YES, SIR. AND I VOTE YES.

SO THAT PASSES 4-1. OKAY.

ITEM 11, THE TREATY GROUND IMPACT FEE TRANSFER.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE RECORD, DOUG BURNETT, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP.

I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHD AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING, SIMILAR TO THE TWO APPLICATIONS THAT WENT BEFORE US. YOU CAN SEE TREATY GROUND LOOSELY IN THIS APPLICATION MAP. IT'S ON 207.

THE BIG THING THERE IS BRINK OFF ROAD IS NOW CONSTRUCTED.

THIS IS A GOOGLE MAP THAT GAVE ME THE MOST RECENT IDENTIFICATION. YOU CAN SEE WHERE PUBLIX IS AND BRINK OFF ROAD HAS BEEN FULLY CONSTRUCTED.

GREAT THING ABOUT THAT, SO MUCH OF THE TRAFFIC WOULD GO UP WILD WOOD TO 207 AND NOW THERE'S A TREMENDOUS LESS DISTANCE RELIEF FROM THE WILD WOOD 207 INTERSECTION COMING DOWN THE BRINK OFF ROAD COMING THROUGH THERE.

HOW BRINK OFF ROAD LAYS OUT WITHIN THE PUD, IT'S TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF IT. ONE LOCAL LANDMARK THAT WE ALL KNOW SO WELL IS THE TREATY PARK WHICH IS 44 ACRES OF PUBLIC PARK AREA. THAT WAS A PART OF THE TREATY

[04:00:01]

AT 207, THE BIG THING IS FAMILY WORSHIP CENTER NEVER HAD A REALLY GREAT ACCESS. YOU WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE WELL PAST IT TO GO TO CHURCH AND MAKE A UTURN AND GO TO CHURCH.

NOW YOU CAN TURN ON THE BRINK OFF AND THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED ACCESS INTO FAMILY WORSHIP CENTER.

THEY PROVIDED THAT ACCESS AT NO COST TO THE CHURCH AS WELL BY THE WAY. THE PHASES WITHIN TREATY AND KNOWING THE HISTORY OF I THINK COMMISSIONER WALDRON MADE COMMENTS ON WAS EVERYTHING COMPLIED WITH THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO? I WILL SHOW YOU, IF EVERYTHING WASN'T COMPLIED WITH, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO PHASE TWO. THE BIGGER THING AS BUILT NOT JUST FOR PHASE ONE BUT ACTUALLY FOR PHASE TWO AS WELL, THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT FULLY VERIFIED.

IT'S IN THE SYSTEM AND THAT OCCURRED BACK IN 2019.

THE AGREEMENT OBVIOUSLY HAS IN THERE WE'RE ENTITLED TO THE IMPACT FEES AND THE PHASING WAS AGREED BY THE COUNTY.

THIS WAS RECORDED BY THE DOCKET OF THE COUNTY AND THE PHASING FOR BUILDING THE ROAD. IT WAS DONE IN COMPLIANCE OF THE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE BRINK OFF ROAD IN THIS LOCATION. OBVIOUSLY FLORIDA STATUTE REQUIRES IMPACT FEES BE ASSIGNABLE.

THERE'S THE ACTUAL SECTION IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT, 163.801 SUB PARAGRAPH 10. MORE RELEVANT TO YOUR DISCUSSION THOUGH. WHERE IS THIS LOCATED WITHIN THE DISTRICT? YOU WANT TO TRANSFER THEM WITHIN THE SAME DISTRICT. WE'RE CLEARLY IN SOUTHEAST DISTRICT THREE AND PROXIMITY WISE, ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER AND THE PROJECTS FOR THE TRANSFER.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

MY CLIENT IS HERE I BELIEVE. THERE.

I SAW HIM BEFORE THE BREAK. VICTOR IS HERE AND WOULD BE

HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> LET ME START WITH COMMISSIONER WALDRON. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF MR.

BURNETT? >> WELL, SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS I HAD FOR THE OTHER ONE.

AS FAR AS YOU KNOW IF WE GET TOLD THAT THE ROAD WORK WOULD BE DONE. WHY WOULD THEY DENY THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT? AND I KNOW IT'S A ACROSS THE STREET AT ENTRADA. ENTRADA'S ENTRANCE IS BACK ON WILD WOOD DRIVE. WHAT IMPROVEMENT IS INTRADA REQUIRED TO HAVE AT THIS TIME? DO YOU KNOW DOUG?

>> I'M NOT SURE THE EXTENT OF ENTRADA'S ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK AT ONE TIME IT WAS PART OF THE GATEWAY AT ST. JOHNS.

IT WOULD HAVE PAID MONEY UNDER THAT AND HAVE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE RELATED TO MORE CURRENT IMPROVEMENTS.

>> WELL, THEIR ROAD IS PRIVATE GOING IN.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE THEY GOING TO

PUT THE CREDITS >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THROUGH THE CHAIR. >> I'M SORRY.

>> WE HAVE HELP IS ON THE WAY, PAUL.

HERE IT IS. >> SORRY, COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK OVER YOU. THIS IS JAN TRANTHAM WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THE ENTRADA PUD WENT THROUGH CONCURRENCY SEPARATELY. THEY WERE PART OF A CONCURRENCY AGREEMENT THAT FUNDED IMPROVEMENTS ON HOMES BOULEVARD INTERSECTION MANY YEARS AGO AND ALSO THE LAST PHASE OF THE GATEWAY TO ST. JOHNS PUD PART OF ENTRADA AND HELPED WITH THE FUNDING THE U.S. 1. THEY ARE FULLY MITIGATED.

THEY DON'T OWE ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY.

THE IMPROVEMENTS AT 207 WILD WOOD DRIVE WHICH IS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE WAS A SITE ACCESS TO BRING THEIR ENTRANCE TO FORM THE FOURTH LEG OF THE INTERSECTION. ANOTHER FAIRLY EXPENSIVE IMPROVEMENT. THEY DIDN'T GET CREDIT FOR THAT BUT THEY GOT CREDIT FOR THE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO HOMES BOULEVARD

AND U.S. ONE AND >> RIGHT.

OKAY. >> OKAY.

BHIRGZ WHIRGZ COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

I THINK WE'RE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

[04:05:02]

>> WE ARE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 11.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. ED SLAVEN.

ED SLAVEN.COM. THE SAME QUESTION OCCURS AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION OF EVERY OTHER DEVELOPER QUESTION FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF TIME.

WHO THE ARE BENEFICIAL OWNERS OF THE PROJECT.

MR. CHAIRMAN WILL YOU PLEASE ASK THE DEVELOPMENT'S LAWYER TO DESCRIBE AND LIST EVERY SINGLE OWNER OF THIS PROJECT.

THE PUBLIC POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA AND RUSSIANS OLIGARCH.

SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS IN THIS COUNTY ARE FUNDED BY RUG MONEY.

IT'S GOING ON RIGHT HERE NOW. WE KNOW IT.

I WANT A LIST EVERY SINGLE BENEFICIAL OWNER IN THE PROJECT AND AS REVERENT DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING SAID.

OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END WHEN WE STOP CAREING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ON WHAT OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS NONE OF Y'ALL ASKED.

THE LEGAL TERM OF THAT IS WILLFUL BLINDNESS.

YOU KNOW THERE'S A POWERFUL AMOUNT OF RUSSIAN INVESTMENT IN REAL ESTATE IN STATE OF FLORIDA. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THIS.

UKRAINE PEOPLE ARE DYING. WE HAVE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA. THE RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNTY. ONE HAS A BIG OLE BOAT.

WHAT ARE Y'ALL GOING TO GO ABOUT IT? THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MORAL ISSUE.

THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR DAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE ASK GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND THE DEVELOPER TO IDENTIFY FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, EVERY SINGLE BENEFICIAL OWNER AND EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES BEFORE YOU AS A VOTE. I WILL BE UP HERE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION. IT'S REAL EASY.

MAKE THEM FILL OUT A FORM UNDER OATH.

MR. BURNETT'S LAW FIRM, WHICH I THINK RECEIVED $87,000 IN SUBSIDIES FROM THE COUNTY, FOR HIS OFFICE.

HE KNOWS WHO THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS ARE.

HE KNOWS WHO IS WRITING THE CHECKS.

LET'S FIND OUT. LET'S START WITH THIS PROJECT.

THIS ONE TODAY. RIGHT NOW.

LET'S ASK MR. BURNETT, MR. CHAIRMAN TO TELL US WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS IN THE PROJECT EVERY SINGLE ONE.

AND I THANK YOU. >> LET ME RESPOND MR. SLAVEN.

LET ME HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION OF WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE AND WILL BE. I AM NOT GOING AS CHAIRMAN TO INTERRUPT OUR MEETING THAT WE'RE TAKING AGENDA ITEMS UP THAT HAVE BEEN IN FACT NOTICED ON THE AGENDA TO START DIRECTING STAFF IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEETING TO DO AB AND C.

WHAT I WILL DO. I WAS GOING TO ANNOUNCE THIS AT THE END OF THE MEETING I'M PROPOSING WE HAVE A SECOND FOLLOW UP GROWTH MANAGEMENT MEETING ON APRIL 26TH AT 9:00 A.M. THAT I WILL BE RE-ADDRESSING THAT AT THE END OF THE MEETING. AND AT THAT GROWTH MANAGEMENT MEETING SCHEDULED AND NOTICED, I WILL BRING THIS ISSUE UP SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND REACH A CONSENSUS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I THINK THAT YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT AND NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR ME TO UNI LATERALLY ISSUE A CAVALIER ORDER ON SOMETHING WHEN IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED BY THE WHOLE COMMISSION.

>> GOD BLESS YOU >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, >> ALL RIGHT.

NEXT. >> B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. AGENDA ITEM A.

IMPACT FEE CREDIT TRANSFER AT FEBRUARY 15TH, 2022, BCC MEETING WAS NOT PROPERLY ADVERTISED AS AN IMPACT FEE CREDIT WORKSHOP.

WORDS HAVE MEANING. ON ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE DEVELOPERS LETTER OF OCTOBER 27, 2021, AGAIN SHOWS DRH. NEED TO LOOK THAT UP AGAIN FOLKS IN THE GOOGLE WEBSITE. I HOPE THAT ANOTHER GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP WILL BE CALLED AND EXPLAINED IT WILL INCLUDE IMPACT FEES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KNOW ABOUT IT AND CAN

SHOW UP FOR THE WORKSHOP. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

[04:10:02]

>> THANK YOU MR. WHITEHURST. IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 11?

>> YES. MR. CHAIRMAN.

ON THIS ONE, SINCE IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 207 GROUP DID A LOT OF WORK WITH.

THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN BEING SEPARATED BY I-95 AND DIFFERENT ZONES, BUT I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022-

>> 86. >> TRANSFER OF $966,730 IN ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS FROM THE TREATY GROUND PUD TO ENTRADA PUD

[12. Proposed County Purchasing Policy and Second Reading of Purchasing Ordinance.]

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO I'LL START >> YES,

>> COMMISSIONER >>

>> AND COMMISSIONER >>

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> YES.

>> AND I VOTE YES. THAT PASSES 5-0.

VERY GOOD. NOW WE WILL TAKE UP OUR COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY. JAMIE, ARE YOU FRONT AND CENTER?

NUMBER 12. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

JAMIE LOCKLEAR, ITEM 11. SECOND READING OF THE PURCHASING ORDINANCE AND ASSOCIATED PURCHASING POLICY.

THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED ON MARCH FIRST. YOU WILL SEE THERE'S SOME ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES IN THE DOCUMENT.

AFTER FURTHER REVIEW WITH OCA, IT HAS ORIGINALLY BEEN DRAFTED AND NOW IT'S ITS OWN POLICY NOT UNDER THE ADMIN CODE ORGANIZATION. THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BY WAY OF ORGANIZATION BUT MATERIALLY IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE FIRST.

JUST TO KIND OF RECAP. THE ORDINANCE AND POLICY WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST WITH YOUR APPROVAL TODAY AND THEN THE PROPOSED CHANGES WITHIN THE POLICY, THE AUTHORITY FRESH HOLDS ARE RECOMMENDED TO BE INCREASED.

$500,000 AND BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE THE BREAK DOWN OF RECOMMENDED CHANGES OF AUTHORITY.

COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD BE UP TO 500 AND SO ON DOWN THE LINE THERE. UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH

IT SPECIFICALLY. >> THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED FOR THE PROCUREMENT THRESHOLDS TO ALIGN THEM WITH 200.

THEY ARE AT 300, 50 AND ONE THOUSAND.

WE ARE ASKING TO RAISE IT. IN DECEMBER OF 2020, THE BOARD ADOPTED A POLICY ON LOCAL PREFERENCE.

THERE ARE NO RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE LOCAL PREFERENCE POLICY.

IT'S STILL INCLUDED IN THE POLICY TODAY.

THE SAME THRESHOLDS AND AMOUNTS AND DEFINITIONS THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED IN 2020 ARE STILL IN PLAY.

THE NEW POLICY DOES ALLOW FOR EVOLUTION INTO THE ELECTRONIC AGE OF PROCUREMENT WHICH THE CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT EFFICIENCY ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT.

IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR NEGOTIATIONS TO OCCUR.

WE ASK FOR THE BOARD TO NEGOTIATE AS OPPOSED TO BRINGING THE FINAL PRODUCT BACK FOR APPROVAL.

ANOTHER CHANGE IS, RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT POLICY DOESN'T PROVIDE SPECIFICALLY FOR BOARD APPROVAL CHANGE ORDERS.

THIS WOULD ESTABLISH THAT THRESHOLD FOR BOARD APPROVAL AT 25% TO THE CONTRACT DOLLAR AMOUNT ON BOARD APPROVED CONTRACTS. ANY CONTRACT OVER $500,000, IT THE CHANGE WAS IN EXCESS OF $25,000, IT COME BACK TO THE BOARD BECAUSE IT HIT THIS THRESHOLD.

THE NEW POLICY ALSO PROVIDES FOR SPECIFICALLY THE STANDARD AND ALTERNATE METHODS OF PROCUREMENT.

THE CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT. THE POLICY ALSO PROPOSES A CHANGE TO THE PROTEST BOND. ESTABLISHING A PROTEST BOND AT $5,000 AND A PROTEST APPEAL BOND AT $10,000 WHICH IS A CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT POLICY. AGAIN, THE NEW POLICY IS POLICY ONLY. THE CURRENT POLICY RIGHT NOW IS POLICY AND PROCEDURE. SO ALL OF THE PROCEDURES ARE COMING OUT. IT'S GOING TO BE ITS OWN SEPARATE PROCEDURAL MANUAL THAT WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR APPROVAL. AND IT REMOVES ALL OF THE OUT DATED TEMPLATES AND FORMS THAT SHOULDN'T BE IN A POLICY DOCUMENT. IT DECREASES COST FOR THE COUNTY AND SUPPLIERS BECAUSE INCREASING FOR FORMAL AND INFORMAL

[04:15:06]

INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU.

LET'S START WITH THE COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LOCKLEAR? PAUL?

ANY >> NO, SIR.

I DON'T. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12. WE ARE NOW TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, SIR.

>> ED SLAVEN. I WANT TO THANK CONNOR CONRAD FOR HIS ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND HIS INVOLVEMENT IN REMEDYING AN ADJUST. DAVID EDWARDS IS HERE AND WAS ALMOST FIRED REPORTING WASTE FRAUD.

HE'S NOW BEEN FIRED. HE SOLD STUFF TO THE COUNTY FROM HIS OWN BUSINESS. HE COVERED UP.

HE MATERIALLY ALTERED DOCUMENTS. I HAVE A COUPLE HERE I ASK WOULD BE SPREAD INTO THE MINUTES. HOPEFULLY GIVE ALL Y'ALL'S COPIES AND ASK THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED TO ANOTHER MEETING AFTER THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET CONSULTATION FROM EXPERTS IN THE ISSUE OF PURCHASING. I'M NOT ONE BUT MY MOTHER WAS ONE. MY MOTHER WORKED FOR CAMDEN COUNTY COLLEGE AND DIAMOND ALKALI AND FW WOOL WORTH.

WHENEVER I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT PURCHASING, I WOULD CALL HER.

LIKE WHEN THE MOSQUITO CONTROL BOARD SPENT $1.8 MILLION ON A NO BID CONTRACT FOR A HELICOPTER AND TENNESSEE VALLEY AUTHORITY SPENT $300 MILLION ON PRICE FIXED COAL FROM SENATOR HOWARD BAKER'S BUDDIES. WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK ON THIS PROPOSAL PROCUREMENT. IT'S A GOOD START BUT NOT FINISHED YET AND IN PARTICULAR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT ANTI-TRUST REFERRALS.

IF YOU GET IDENTICAL BIDS, ROBERT KENNEDY WAS ALL OVER THIS LIKE A JUNE BUG ON A CHICKEN. THERE NEEDS TO BE A POLICY THE COUNTY REPORT TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT ANTITRUST DIVISION. THE AMOUNT FOR DISCRETIONARY PURCHASES IS WAY TOO HIGH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD BE GIVEN THAT KIND OF POWER. IT'S WAY TOO MUCH.

ALSO IF YOU'RE A BIDDER, ON A COUNTY PURCHASING ORDER, YOU ONLY HAVE THREE DAYS, THREE DAYS TO DO A BID PROTEST.

THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS YOU GOT 10 DAYS.

NOW IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WAS SCREWED ON A BID OPENING, THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE THAN THREE DAYS TO FILE A BID PROTEST. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FIND A LAWYER AND FILE A PROPER BID PROTEST IN THREE DAYS.

THAT PART NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. I JUST WANT TO THANK DAVID EDWARDS SITTING WITH ME IN THE BACK.

HE'S THE WHISTLE BLOWER WHO CAME FORWARD ABOUT THE FRAUD GOING ON IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. AND NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DISCIPLINED. NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FIRED. FIRED ONE AND THAT WAS GREAT.

THAT WAS ONE OF PROUDEST MOMENTS IN ST. JOHNS HISTORY.

BUT THERE' A LOT MORE TO BE DONE.

WE NEED TO WIPE OUT THE WASTE FRAUD AND ABUSE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. STARTING WITH PURCHASING.

IT'S A GOOD START. LIKE THE OLD JOKE ABOUT CORPORATE LAWYERS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN.

TABLE THIS AND GET BACK TO THIS. I THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12? AGAIN WE'RE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12.

B.J. KLATY. WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

8 NEWCOME. WE PAY TAXES TOO AS A COUNTY.

I SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE WHEN IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP.

IT SEEMS TO ME, MAYBE IT COMES ACROSS SOMETIMES A CAVALIER ATTITUDE WHENEVER I REFER TO MONEY, I'M A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC. 500 GRAND.

I'M HOPING EVERYBODY THAT MAY BE LISTENING TO THIS, KNOW THAT EQUALS A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE POWER TO

[04:20:07]

CONCERNS ME NOW. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK EVERYBODY HOLD THEIR APPLAUSE. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE MEETING GOING. ANYBODY ELSE FOR AGENDA ITEM 12? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON 12.

>> I WILL TAKE A MOMENT AND MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT AND THANK JAMIE FOR HER GOOD WORK HERE. I THINK THAT THESE REVISIONS ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WELL DONE, AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT PUBLIC PURCHASING POLICIES, IT TAKES ME BACK TO A COMMENT 40 YEARS AGO FROM BOB GRAHAM WHO WAS GOVERNOR, ONE WHO I DEEPLY ADMIRED AND WORKED FOR. HE TOLD ME AT ONE POINT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING AN ISSUE PENDING ON THE CABINET AND INVOLVED A PURCHASE ISSUE. HE SAID YOU KNOW HENRY, SERVING IN A PUBLIC OFFICE IS PUBLIC TRUST.

AND SO, I PUT GREAT STOCK IN MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW OUR PURCHASING POLICIES AND IT'S DONE TOTALLY ABOVE BOARD BY THE BOOK AND THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE REVIEWED WITH JAMIE BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THE EMPLOYEES WHETHER THEY ARE WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY KNOW THEY ARE HOLDING PUBLIC TRUST. WE TRUST THEM TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I WAS SORT OF REMEMBERING THOSE THOUGHTS WHEN I DISCUSSED PUBLIC PURCHASING.

SO WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN -- >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> OKAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022-

>> 22. >> AS THE PURCHASING ORDINANCE TO GOVERN THE PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACTING OPERATIONS

JOHN'S COUNTY. >> SECOND.

[13. St. Johns County Evacuation Zones Update.]

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND SECOND

BY COMMISSIONER >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER

>> >> COMMISSIONER

>> YES. COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> YES, SIR. AND I VOTE YES.

SO THAT PASSES 5-0 AGAIN. JAMIE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. THAT TAKES US TO JOE G.

WE WILL TAKE UP THE EVACUATION ZONES UPDATE.

GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS OUR PRESENTATION ITEM ONLY. THERE'S NO ACTION FOR THE BOARD.

WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT EVACUATION ZONES.

WHY AM I HERE FOR EVACUATION ZONES? WE ARE UPDATING OUR EVACUATION ZONES.

WE HAVE UPDATED DATA LAST TIME WE REVIEWED THESE WAS 2014.

I WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WE DO IT AND THE END SHOW THE PUBLIC HOW TO FIND THEIR ZONES. BUT, EVACUATION ZONES, WHY ARE THEY THERE? TO PROTECT LIVES AND SAFETY IN POTENTIALLY AREAS VULNERABLE TO STORMS. PARTICULARLY FOR THE US, WE ARE VULNERABLE TO HURRICANES, SO YOU LOOK AT THE COAST LINE AND THE RIVER ON THE WEST SIDE.

YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACTS OF THAT ON OUR RESIDENTS AND DESIGN EVACUATION ZONES BASED ON THOSE MODELS WE HAVE.

IT'S REALLY FOR SAFETY. IT HELPS THE POLICY GROUP AT A TIME OF EMERGENCY TO DETERMINE WHAT AREAS TO BE EVACUATED DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE STORM IMPACTING US.

TWO THINGS I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT GETS CONFUSING ON SOME PEOPLE.

EVACUATION ZONES DID NOT AFFECT FEMA FLOOD ZONES AND DO NOT AFFECT YOUR PERSONAL INSURANCE PROPERTY.

THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THIS IS STRICTLY FOR SAFETY NOT FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES OR FEMA FLOOD MAPS.

SO, I KNOW THIS SLIDE IS A LITTLE BUSY.

WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF SCIENCE THAT GOES INTO DEVELOPING EVACUATION ZONES.

THESE ARE NOT THINGS WE PULL OUT OF OUR HAT AND GO 10 MINUTES INTO AND DRAW LINES ON A MAP. WE STARTED THIS ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WRKING WITH THE NORTHWEST REGIONAL COUNCIL TAKING IN DATA FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. WE TAKE IN ACCOUNT OF STORM

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TAKE THESE DATA POINTS AND PUT IN A GIANT MODEL AND THEY OUTPUT IF YOU WILL, A MAP WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT COLORS ON IT THAT TELLS YOU WHERE THE WATER WILL GO BASED ON THOSE INPUTS.

YOU TAKE LIGHT OR SEA WATER, THE GROUND, I AM BLANKING MY WORD.

THE CONTOURS OF THE OCEAN AND THE LOW LYING AREAS FROM THE WEST SIDE AND EAST SIDE AND HELP US PUT THE MODELS TOGETHER.

SO THE STATE BASICALLY STARTED THIS PROCESS 18 MONTHS AGO.

THEY WORKED WITH THE NORTHEAST REGIONAL COUNCIL AND PUT ALL THIS DATA TOGETHER AND THEN PROVIDED IT TO US.

WHAT WE DID IS LOCALLY LOOK AT OUR AREAS AND DRAW THE LINES A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO THAT PROCESS AGAIN TAKES 18 MONTHS AND IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS TO DRAW THOSE MAPS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS THE CURRENT AND THE NEW VERSION OR TODAY'S VERSION. WHAT YOU SEE IS REALLY NOT THAT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT SIDE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COAST LINE, AND IF YOU KIND OF THINK IN HISTORY FROM MATTHEW AND IRMA BECAUSE YOU LOOK INTO THAT HISTORICAL DATA. A AND B IS YOUR RED AND YOUR ORANGE COLORS. THEY ARE RIGHT ON THE COAST.

WE LIVE IN FLORIDA AND RIGHT ON THE COAST OF A MAJOR STORM COMING AT US. IT MAKES SENSE TO EVACUATE THE COAST LINE. WE LOOKED AT ALL THAT DATA WITH THE UPDATED INFORMATION AND KIND OF DREW THE LINES A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFULLY. IF YOU GO BACK AND KIND OF IN HISTORY AND WILL SHOW A LITTLE HERE, LINES WERE DRAWN BASICALLY ON ROADS. SO IF YOU HAD U.S. ONE JUST DRAWN STRAIGHT DOWN THE COAST, YOU DRAW THAT LINE BASICALLY WILL AND THAT'S YOUR DIVIDING LINE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

WITH THE TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY AND PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO ACCESS INFORMATION, YOU CAN DRAW IN A LITTLE CLOSER TO A HOMEOWNER AND THEN FIND OUT HOW THAT HOMEOWNER PROPERTY LINE WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE AREA. THE LINES LOOK A LITTLE MORE SQUIGGLY IF YOU WILL. IT'S REALLY YOU CAN ZOOM IN BETTER BECAUSE WE HAVE BETTER DATA.

IF YOU LOOK CLOSER TO THE WEST SIDE OR THE ST. JOHNS RIVERSIDE, AGAIN, THE PINKISH IS ZONE F. IF WE HAVE SOMETHING REALLY SIGNIFICANT OR SPECIAL THAT WOULD AFFECT US IN IRMA IS AN EXAMPLE. IRMA KIND OF WENT UP THE SPINE OF THE STATE. IF WE HAVE A BLOCKAGE AT THE MOUTH OF THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER AND THE HAVE YOU BACK UP.

WE COULD LOOK AT FEET GETTING WET IF THE ZONE OR MORE IN THE ST. JOHNS RIVER AREA. THAT'S WHY THOSE AREAS LOOK A LITTLE MORE WIDER THAN THEY USED TO BE BECAUSE WE HAVE DATA THAT SHOWS MORE IMPACT OF THE ST. JOHNS RIVER AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE IMMEDIATE STORM PASSING AND A COUPLE DAYS AFTER RAIN WHERE DOES THE WATER GO? THAT IS WHY THOSE CHANGE A LITTLE BIT. ANOTHER GOOD THING WE LOOK AT IS AGAIN IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD WAY OF DRAWING LINES, JUST KIND OF ENCOMPASSES A LOT OF PEOPLE. WITH THE MORE FOCUSD AND NARROW AREAS, YOU CAN POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU'RE EVACUATING. YOU WANT LESS PEOPLE ON THE ROAD. NARROW DOWN TO A SPECIFIC AREA AND SO THAT HELPS US. SO ONCE YOU HAVE THAT OUT AND YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR ZONES ARE, WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS TO FIND THAT OUT. SO KNOW YOUR ZONE.

THERE'S TWO SPECIFIC WEBSITE THAT IS I'M GOING TO POINT THE RESIDENTS TO TO GO TO. THIS IS THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WEB PAGE. YOU CAN SEE THE BIG RED ARROW.

POINTS TO THE EVACUATIONS MY ZONES.

CLICK ON THAT BUTTON, OR YOU GO TO THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY GOVERNMENT WEB PAGE THERE'S A COUNTY GOVERNMENT SITE THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

IT WILL CLICK YOU TO THE SAME SPOT AS THIS.

SO THOSE TWO AREAS WILL TAKE YOU TO HERE.

ONCE YOU GET TO HERE, YOU TYPE IN YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN ONCE YOU TYPE IN YOUR ADDRESS, IT'S GOING TO POPULATE WHERE YOUR ZONE IS. SO IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE THIS ADDRESSES, THIS IS THE AMPHITHEATER.

I PUT IN THE AMPHITHEATER AND IT'S ZONE A.

THAT'S YOUR EVACUATION ZONE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS THE EVACUATION ZONES ARE UPDATED TODAY.

ALL OF THE AREAS WILL BE UPDATED THIS EVENING AND AVAILABLE FOR

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ST. JOHN'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH US AT THE EOC, 904-824-5550. YOU CAN ALSO HAVE OUR WEBSITE.

THE KNOW MY ZONE SITE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT FLORIDADISASTER.ORG. THAT IS MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS OF JOE?

[15. Second reading of proposed one-cent infrastructure surtax ordinance.]

>> AT THIS TIME WE WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 13. ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 13 NOW IS THE TIME.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 13.

IS THERE A MOTION ON 13? >> THERE'S NO ACTION.

JUST ACCEPT THE REPORT. OKAY.

WE WILL GO TO 15. I KNOW DAVID IS NOT HERE.

BRAD, ARE YOU PRESENTING THIS? OH, I'M SORRY.

GOOD AFTERNOON >> CHRISTINE HERE TO PRESENT YOU TO THE SECOND READING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX ORDINANCE. AGAIN JUST SOME BACKGROUND.

ON MARCH FIRST, THE BOARD FIRST CONSIDERED THIS ORDINANCE FOR PROPOSED $0.01 SALES TAX FOR LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE ORDINANCE LEVIES A $0.01 TAX FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PERIOD OF 10 YEARS AND IF APPROVED BY VOTERS THAT TAX WOULD BEGIN BEING COLLECTED ON JANUARY 1ST OF 2023.

ENDING TO DECEMBER 31ST OF 2032. THE LEVY DOES NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL IF AND UNTIL THE VOTERS APPROVE IT IN AN COUNTY WIDE ELECTION. THAT ORDINANCE WOULD CALL FOR A REFERENDUM TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 8TH, WHICH IS THE GENERAL ELECTION DAY THIS YEAR ALSO KNOWN AS THE MID TERM ELECTIONS. THIS SHOWS A LIST OF TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT THE SURTAX WOULD BE APPLIED TO.

IT INCLUDES ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, EMERGENCY SERVICES, PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION, LIBRARIES, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND COASTAL EROSION MANAGEMENT PROJECTS. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE INCREASE SAYS, ST. JOHNS SALES TAX FROM 6.5 % TO 7.5 % OF THE SALE OF GOODS AND SERVICES. FOR TAXABLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, THE ADDITIONAL $0.01 SALES TAX WOULD ONLY BE COLLECTED ON THE FIRST $5,000. THE ADDITIONAL SALES TAX WOULD NOT APPLY TO CERTAIN GROCERIES, MEDICAL PRODUCT SUPPLIES AND OTHER GOODS AND SERVICES EXEMPT FROM TAXATION.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ACTUAL BALLOT LANGUAGE.

AGAIN IT JUST REPEATS THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT THE SURTAX PROCEEDS COULD BE USED FOR. THIS BALLOT LANGUAGE WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED IN SPANISH. THE ORDINANCE DIRECTS ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS DIRECTED BY LAW.

INCLUDING CLERK OF COURT TO ADVERTISE THE REFERENDUM TWICE PRIOR TO THE ELECTION. AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW, IF THE BOARD APPROVES THE ORDINANCE TODAY, WILL BE PROVIDED TO STATE OFFICE OF PROGRAM POLICY ANALYSIS AND GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY TO BE PREPARED FOR AN AUDIT.

THAT AUDIT WILL BE AVAILABLE AT LEAST 60 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR A REVIEW AND MAINTAINED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS OF CHRISTINE? WE RECEIVED IT PRETTY IN DEPTH PRESENTATION ON MARCH FIRST FROM JESSE DUNN WHO WALKED THROUGH THE HISTORY OF WHAT I WILL SAY GOT US A BIT INTO A DILEMMA HERE WITH A BACKLOG OF INFRASTRUCTURE. I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE A NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT. I CERTAINLY WANTED TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS OR PRESENTATIONS OF METRICS THAT GOT US HERE BEFORE I CALL ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS AT THIS POINT?

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WE'RE GOOD? >> WELL, CONCERNING THAT, IT WAS AN IMPRESSIVE PRESENTATION BY JESSE DUNN.

IS THAT PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR CONSUMPTION BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC? DO WE HAVE A LINK TO IT? I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF LINKS. COULD THAT BE AVAILABLE? YES. THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.

IT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE IF THE MEETING LINK.

WE COULD PULL THAT OUT AND HAVE SPECIFICALLY LINKED.

>> FANTASTIC. I'M GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND DIRECTING PEOPLE TO OUR GTV LINK WHERE EACH AGENDA ITEM IS SORT OF, YOU CAN CLICK ON EACH AGENDA ITEM ON THAT LINK.

JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER TO ACCESS FOR MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO IF WE HAD A LINK I COULD E-MAIL OUT AS THERE'S CONCERNS COME IN, THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> SO AT THIS TIME, THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 15.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

>> PETE ROYAL. I LIVE AT 345 HEFF RON DRIVE AND A PRECINCT COMMITTEE MAN. I AM A 5TH DISTRICT CHAIRMAN AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLICAN CLUB OF GREATER SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M WONDERING WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHY WE'RE HERE.

THE COUNTY WAS SET UP WITH IMPACT FEES WHERE THE CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS PAID FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH.

BUT HERE IT ALLOW IT TO BE PUT ASIDE AS CDD FEE TO HIDE THE PRICE OF THE HOUSE. WE HAVE A PROBLEM WE WOULDN'T BE HOLDING A MEETING ASKING ABOUT A PENNY TAX INCREASE.

MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF US, THE TAX PAPERS, INSTEAD OF DEVELOPERS CONTRIBUTORS FOR FUNDS TO RUN FOR OFFICE. WOULD WE BE HERE? THE REASON I SAY THAT. WHEN JERRY CAMERON ANNOUNCED HE WAS GOING TO RUN FOR YOUR JOB, THE NEXT WEEKEND HE GOT 18 CHECKS FOR $1,500 A PIECE IN HIS MAILBOX FROM PEOPLE HE DIDN'T KNOW BUT RELATED TO THE DEVELOPERS.

I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF ANYTHING.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE FACTS OF WHAT HAPPENED.

WHAT HAPPENED IN WHEN NOCATEE WAS BUILT, THEY NEEDED A FLY OVER. THEN THEY NEEDED A FIRE STATION AND THE DEVELOPER PAID FOR THE FIRE STATION AND GIVE THEM A LOAN FOR 20 YEARS SO THEY COULD PAY IT LATER.

THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE AND THE COST ON I HEARD WAS $100 MILLION. THAT'S I HEARD THAT.

THE LATEST DEVELOPERED HE WAS GOING TO PAY $100 MILLION FOR THE SAME TYPE OF THING AND THEN ONE OF HIS FAMILY HAPPENS TO BE A SENATOR PASSED A LAW THAT SAID THE COUNTY OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WOULD PICK UP THAT BILL FOR HIM. NOW, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUR VOTERS AND VOTING FOR YOU, AND NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THE PAYMENTS TO PAY FOR THE RUNNING OF OFFICE, WE HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT AT GIOVANNIS AS MR. WHITEHURST WAS OUR GUEST SPEAKER. AND HE GOT TO FIND OUT HE WAS TALKING TO 50 OF THE PRECINCT COMMITTEE MEN WHICH IS ABOUT A THIRD OF REC AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KNOCK ON DOORS, MAKE THE PHONE CALLS AND DO THE THINGS IT TAKES TO GET YOU ELECTED. HE HEARD WHAT THEY FELT ABOUT IT AND HE CAN TELL YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME TO GO OUT

-- >> THANK YOU MR. ROY.

APPRECIATE IT. >> WHILE IT'S ON MY MIND, I WANT TO INTERRUPT ONE SECOND BECAUSE PETER ASKED A VERY SERIOUS AND GOOD QUESTION. AND THAT IS WHY AREN'T WE RELYING ON IMPACT FEES? LET'S JUST CHARGE HIGHER IMPACT FEES AND MAKE THE DEVELOPERS PAY.

I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND AND ADDRESS THAT.

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. STARTING IN 2008, WE HAD A GREAT RECESSION AND THEN WE HAD LEGISLATIVE TAX REFORM THAT REDUCED OUR REVENUE BY 20% ON TOP OF THE REDUCTION FROM THE GREAT RECESSION. THE COMMISSION ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO LOWERED IMPACT FEES AND THEY WERE BOUGHT ARTIFICIALLY LOW AND REMAINED LOW UNTIL 2018. THAT'S WHAT GOT US IN MY OPINION

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WE HAVE TO TIE IT TO THE IMPACTS OF THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT NOT WHAT HAPPENED 12 YEARS AGO OR 10 YEARS AGO.

THIS IS THE MESSAGE THAT I AM TRYING TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE CANNOT RAISE IMPACT FEES ANY MORE THAN THEY ARE ALREADY AT TO TIE THE IMPACT FEE TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. WE RAISED THOSE FEES TO THAT LEVEL IN 2018. SO I REACHED A DECISION SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT THAT LEAVES ME REALLY ONLY THREE OPTIONS TO RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE ON YOUR HOME AND MINE.

OR TO PROPOSE THE VOTERS NOT US, THE VOTERS VOTE UP YES OR DOWN ON A $0.01 INCREASE OR TO DO NOTHING.

AND KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS.

MY MESSAGE FOR THE PUBLIC FOR ANYONE LISTENING, IF WE MOVE AHEAD TODAY WITH PASSING THIS ORDINANCE, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY TO VOTE UP OR DOWN ON A PROPOSED $0.01 INCREASE. WE DIDN'T GET HERE TODAY TO JUST RAISE THE IMPACT FEES. WE HAD TAX REFORM THAT ALSO REDUCED OUR REVENUE. I THINK AGAIN, PETER, YOU RAISE A GREAT QUESTION. A FAIR QUESTION AND ONE THAT NEEDS A RESPONSE. I HAVE DONE MY BEST TO ADDRESS IT. IF YOU DISAGREE, YOU CAN VOTE NO IN NOVEMBER IF WE MOVE AHEAD. THAT'S SOMETHING I FELT I SHOULD

RESPOND TO TODAY. >> WELL, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A QUESTION WHICH WAY I WILL VOTE AND I WILL WORK AS WE DID THE LAST TIME THE BOARD HERE ASKED FOR A PENNY TAX, WE FOUGHT IT AND BEAT IT. THE SCHOOLS WHO INCIDENTALLY THEY HAVE TO PAY TAX THE DAY AFTER THEY GOT IT, WENT OUT AND BORROWED $2 MILLION TO PROVIDE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

AND WENT OUT AND BUILT SCHOOLS THAT DAY.

THE INTEREST ON THAT MONEY IS PAID BY THE TAXPAYER.

>> MR. ROY. WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.

YOU MADE GOOD POINTS. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THE ANSWER IS THAT AT MY HOUSE, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE, WHEN WE WANT TO TAKE A NICE VACATION, WE

DON'T STOP EATING TO TAKE IT. >> YOU WILL HAVE YOUR CHANCE TO VOTE ON NOVEMBER 8TH. IF WE MOVE AHEAD.

THANK YOU PETER. >> YES, MA'AM,

>> SAINT AUGUSTINE. >> I AM GOING TO SUGGEST A FOURTH OPTION SIR. A WISE FRIEND TOLD ME WHEN I FIND MYSELF IN A HOLE I SHOULD STOP DIGGING.

I THINK THAT LOGIC APPLIES HERE. PLEASE IMPOSE AN EMERGENCY MORATORIUM ON NEW DEVELOPMENT IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY UNTIL THE STATE OF FLORIDA WIDENS THE STATE ROADS 13 AND 16 AND ADDS ANOTHER BRIDGE ACROSS THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER.

OUR CURRENT ROADS CANNOT HANDLE THE TRAFFIC WE HAVE NOW.

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BUILD MORE HOUSES UNTIL THAT PROBLEM IS RESOLVED. WHILE IT MAY BE TRUE THAT THE OUT RAGEOUS TRAFFIC WE EXPERIENCE EVERY TIME WE LEAVE OUR HOMES IS CAUSED BY THE COMMISSIONERS WHO CAME BEFORE YOU, THAT DOES NOT ABSOLVE YOU FROM THE RESPONSIBILITY TO IMPLEMENT EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS NOW.

AND, PLEASE DON'T INSTITUTE A SALES TAX INCREASE TO REPAIR DAMAGE DONE BY IRRESPONSIBLE BUILDERS AND SHORT SIDED COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE HEARD ONE COMMISSIONER HERE CLAIM THAT A SALES TAX WOULD ALLOW THE TOURISTS TO FOOT THE BILLS. THAT STATEMENT IGNORES THE FACT THAT A SALES TAX WOULD AFFECT ALL WHO LIVE HERE IN FACT, THE POOREST AMONG US WOULD WAY THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF THEIR INCOME IN TAX. WE MUST NOT REQUIRE THE MOST DISADVANTAGED AMONG US TO PAY FOR DAMAGE DONE BY DEVELOPERS AND POOR PLANNING. IT WOULD BE CRUEL TO MAKE THE

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>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES, SIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS DR. MICHELE PABLOVSKI. I RESIDE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I HAVE TO SAY I WAS SHOCKED TODAY WHEN I PICKED UP THIS PUBLICATION PRODUCED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATOR WILL DIRECT THE CLERK TO CORRECT IT BECAUSE SIGNIFICANTLY MISSING FROM THIS DOCUMENT IS THE SALES TAX REVENUES WE RECEIVE FROM 2015 ON.

ANNUALLY. YOU LISTED EVERYTHING ELSE HERE BUT NOT THAT. SO WHY ARE WE KEEPING THAT INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC? WHY ARE WE CALLING SALES TAX A SURTAX IN YOUR AGENDA? I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT AND CALL THINGS WHAT THEY ARE.

SO, I HOPE THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE WILL CORRECT THIS PUBLICATION AND PUT A CHART ON THE WEBSITE WITHIN THE NEXT BY FRIDAY, WHICH GIVES YOU SEVERAL DAYS TO PUT TOGETHER THE DATA, AND POST IT ON THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WEBSITE.

I HOPE THAT YOU WILL DIRECT THAT TO HAPPEN.

NOW, I NOTICED THAT WHEN MOST OF YOU WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE YOU HAD THIS PARTICULAR PHRASE, I WANT TO PUT ST. JOHNS COUNTY TAXPAYERS FIRST. I HAVE COLLECTED AND KEPT YOUR INFORMATION OVER THE YEARS AS A POINT OF REFERENCE.

SO THAT IF I HAD A CHANCE TO DIALOGUE WITH YOU, I COULD REMIND YOU OF THE FACT THAT YOU PUT TAXPAYERS FIRST.

I JUST DO NOT GET THE FEELING THAT THIS IS THE CASE WHEN YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA, A PROPOSED $0.01 SALES TAX.

MANY CITIZENS HAVE ASKED ME WHAT PLANET DO THE COMMISSIONERS LIVE ON? ARE YOU AWARE OF THE BIDEN GENERATED INFLATION PAIN ON CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY.

WHY HAVEN'T YOU ESTABLISHED A CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS AND GIVE YOU FEEDBACK? DO WE REALLY NEED IT? WHAT HAS BEEN THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY? I SAY THIS BECAUSE IF I TAKE FOR EXAMPLE $100 MILLION AND I KNOW THAT THE POPULATION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS INCREASED BY 44%, THAT $100 MILLION FROM THE STARTING POINT EQUATES TO $144 MILLION. THAT'S A $44 MILLION INCREASE.

SO, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE HAS THE MONEY GONE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR THE INCREASED IN SALES TAX REVENUE BASED UPON THE INCREASE IN POPULATION? THE POPULATION ARE CONSUMERS.

I HAVE TO REMIND YOU OF ONE FACT.

WE ARE ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE ARE NOT DUVAL COUNTY.

LISTEN TO US AND POSTPONE A DECISION UNTIL YOU CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM COMMITTEE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU DR. MICHELE.

IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE TWO

PODIUMS. >> ED SLAVEN.

I AGREE WITH MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE THIS DOWN. EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T, IT'S FATALLIY FLAWED. I JUST HEARD WE OMITTED TAXATION ON ANYTHING PURCHASED OVER $5,000.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? THIS TAX VIOLATES THE 14TH AMENDMENT. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY TAX THE WORKING MAN'S BOLOGNA SANDWICH AND NOT THE RICH MAN'S YACHT? PERSONAL PROPERTY ON STOCKS AND BONDS AN IMMORAL TAX.

I THINK SALES TAX HAS USED P PROMISCULOUSLY.

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PEOPLE ARE NOT DUMB, NOT HICKS AND UNSOPHISTICATED.

WHEN THEY KNOW THIS SALES TAX WOULD EXEMPT LUXURY GOODS COSTING MORE THAN $5,000. ON THAT BASIS ALONE THEY CAN TURN IT DOWN. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR INSTANCE WHY DON'T WE TELEVISE ALL MEETINGS OF ALL COMMITTEES INCLUDING THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, THE LAMP COMMITMENT.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE REMOTE PARTICIPATION LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES? WHY NO BODY CAMS? WHY NO DASH CAM, WHY DON'T WE VIDEOTAPE THE MEETINGS Y'ALL HAVE WITH LOBBYIST AND OUR OWN WHO ALSO LOBBY FOR NOCATEE AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE VIDEO GOING WITH EX PARTE DEVELOPERS.

IF YOU DON'T TAPE THEM, THE FBI MIGHT.

I'M MYSTIFIED AS TO THE LACK OF RESOURCEFULNESS OF ST. JOHN'S, WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO WHEN THIS IS TURNED DOWN.

Y'ALL ARE GOOD AT GOING TO TALLAHASSEE AND GETTING THINGS DONE. THIS IS A DOG WITH FLEES.

IT'S FATALLY FLAWED. YOU EXEMPTED GOODS OVER $5,000.

PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT TO US. ARE WE VIOLATING THE 14TH

AMENDMENT? >> THE EXEMPTION FROM APPLYING THE SURTAX TO TANGIBLE GOODS SECTION 212.054, SUB

2 B 1. >> WE WILL TAKE OUR LEGAL ADVICE FROM PEOPLE WITH LEGAL AGREES WHO ARE NOT DISBARRED.

PLEASE MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE, YES, SIR.

I'M SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION. MY NAME IS ERIK HINKLE.

I AM A FATHER OF THREE. HUSBAND OF A ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER AND ALSO CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE PONTE VEDRA ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.

I AM ACTUALLY RISING IN SUPPORT OF THE $0.01 SALES TAX AMENDMENT AND ALSO RISING IN SUPPORT OF PLACING IT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT. SPECIFICALLY I HAVE BEEN AROUND AND AN ACTIVE VOLUNTEER IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 18 YEARS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY I HAVE ENJOYED MY RESIDENCY HERE AS A TRANSPLANT.

I HAVE LIVED IN SIX STATES PRIOR TO COMING TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

WHAT I HAVE FOUND TO BE BENEFICIAL IS ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE I HAVE MANAGED IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND HAVE INTERACTED IN MY CURRENT ROLE HAVE MANAGED THAT EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY COMPARED TO MY EXPERIENCES ELSEWHERE.

I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT AND TRUST THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE MANAGED WELL. THAT SAID, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I HAVE SEEN THE GROWTH AND HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS ON THE SALES TAX REFERENDUMS IN THE PAST. WE ARE AT A CRITICAL PATH.

WE NEED TO NOT ONLY CATCH UP ON THE PROJECTS THAT COMMISSIONER DEAN INDICATED AND INVEST AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PREPARED FOR THE GROWTH IN THE FUTURE SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NEEDING TO EXPAND COUNTY ROADS, I BELIEVE COUNTY ROAD, THE COUNTY ROAD THAT'S GOING TO BE IN ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE ALTERNATIVE FOR ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM AND ONE I COMMEND THE COMMISSIONERS AND FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION FOR ALLOWING US TO PROVIDE THIS ECONOMIC SOLUTION THAT WILL NOT ONLY MEET

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TAKE TIME. >> THANK YOU MR. HINKLE.

>> YES, SIR. CHUCK L.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. WE CANNOT DO ANY OTHER MORE WITH THE IMPACT FEES? THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.

WE'RE AT THE HIGHEST THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

THE QUESTION I HAVE, SINCE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IMPACT FEES, ARE WE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH MOBILITY FEES.

THAT'S A QUESTION I HAVE. >> LET ME JUST SAY, I ANNOUNCED EARLIER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP ON APRIL 26TH AT 9 O'CLOCK. AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKER WAS TO HAVE MOBILITY FEE ITEM DISCUSSED AT THAT WORKSHOP FOR THOSE WHO MAY

BE INTERESTED. >> SHERRY BADGER, 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE. ONCE AGAIN WE FIND OURSELVES HERE ABOUT A PENNY SALES TAX. AND WE WATCHED YOU GIVE CONCESSION AFTER CONCESSIONS MILLIONS HERE, MILLIONS THERE WHY DON'T Y'ALL STOP? THIS SALES TAX ISN'T GOING TO BE A BURDEN ON YOU BECAUSE ANYTHING OVER $5,000 IS TAX EXEMPT IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND THE MAP THAT Y'ALL SHOWED, MOST OF THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE RAISED WOULD BE ALLOCATED FOR THE NORTH END OF TOWN HAVING THREE FIRE STATIONS PARKS, IN THE PAST THE COUNTY HAS JUGGLED GRANT MONEYS TO ONE WEST AUGUSTINE'S GRANT MONEY WAS FUNNELED TO PZA.

THEY TOOK CARE OF THACHL THERE WAS THE RECREATION CENTER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT OUT ON 16 HAS NEVER BEEN BUILT.

IS THIS MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THE NORTH END OF TOWN AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU HAD ON YOUR MAP OR FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY? IF IT'S NOT FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY AND YOU'RE ALLOCATING THIS SALES PENNY TAX TO GO TO THE NORTH END OF TOWN, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. JUST LIKE THE SALES PENNY FOR THE SCHOOLS, THAT WAS FOR NEW SCHOOLS.

ANY INTERCITY EXISTING SCHOOLS CAN'T USE THAT MONEY.

YOU AS THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE HELPED.

I HAVE SEEN Y'ALL RUBBER STAMP EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CAME THROUGH. I HAVE SEEN Y'ALL GIVE CONCESSIONS, WE WILL GIVE A CONCESSION FOR THIS.

JUST LIKE THE BOND MONEY AND ONE YEAR IT'S UP, THE WORLD GOLF.

THEY HAVEN'T EVEN PAID THEIR BOND MONEY BACK AND THEY WILL BE LEAVING IN A YEAR. WHAT ABOUT THE BOND MONEY THEY BORROWED AND THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO EAT? Y'ALL NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M MARTY MCKEACH AND COMING TO YOU AS A VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF CREEKS ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION WHICH IS A YOUTH ORGANIZATION.

>> MR. MCKEE. YOUR ADDRESS.

>> 113 TANGLE WOOD COURT. I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.

29 YEARS AGO, WE WEREN'T THROUGH THE SAME THING.

I'M FOR THE TAX BEING ADDED TO THE BALLOT.

WE'RE BEHIND BOTTOM LINE. WE CAN ADD IMPACT FEES AND WE STILL WON'T BE CAUGHT UP. WE'RE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS BEHIND. THE REST, YOU LOOK ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, THEY DOING THING TO GIVE THEMSELVES A CHANCE. IF WE DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO NOW BE ANOTHER 25 TO 50 YEARS BEHIND. I MOVED HERE FROM NORTH CAROLINA 20 YEARS AGO AND MY WIFE AND I BEFORE SHE PASSED WERE AT GATOR BOWL. I WENT DOWNTOWN AND SAW ALL THIS UNDEVELOPED LAND. I SAID IS THIS LAND CONTAMINATED? SHE SAID NO, IT'S NOT BEEN DEVELOPED. THIS WAS 25 YEARS AGO.

I LOOKED AT MY WIFE AND SAID WE'RE MOVING HERE.

WHY. THE OPPORTUNITY.

THIS PLACE IS ALREADY 25 YEARS BEHIND.

WE HAVE GOT TO NOW STEP UP TO THE PLATE.

WE CAN ONCE THIS THING PASSES, THEN WE CAN DETERMINE WHERE THE MONEY IS SPENT AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF BECAUSE THAT WILL BE WHY YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

BY THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE TO GIVE OURSELVES A SHOT.

WE HAVE GOT TO BE REAL ABOUT OUR SITUATION.

WE HAVE AN GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE ALL KNOW THAT.

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PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF ORLANDO. IT'S OVER RATED.

BUSY, WE HAVE BEACHES, WE'RE BECOMING A DESTINATION.

WE NEED TO WRAP OUR MINDS AROUND IT AND DO THINGS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING WITH THE MONEY.

IF WE DON'T, WE'RE GOING TO MISS OUR WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY.

WE'RE ON A GROWTH PATH. IF YOU HAVEN'T WRAPPED YOUR MIND AROUND THAT, YOU MISSED IT. WE NEED TO KEEP WHAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD. WE STEPPED BACK FAR ENOUGH.

I'M LOOKING BEING AT THE BOARD AND AS FAR AS BEING A PART OF RAB BOARD, THE WHOLE CULTURE IS CHANGING.

FORWARD THINKING. THIS IS POSITIVE.

IF WE DON'T, NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ANOTHER 50 YEARS BEHIND AND WHAT IS NEXT? OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS TERRIBLE.

IT'S BECOMING A SAFETY ISSUE WE CAN'T GO TO SOME PLACES AND GO ON SOME THINGS. PEOPLE ARE FLYING BY AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE BICYCLE LANES. IF WE DO, PEOPLE DON'T RESPECT THEM. NOW WE'RE BECOMING A HEALTH AND SAFETY HAZARD. SO THAT MAN SAID, WE NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. I AM EXCITED TO SEE WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS WILL BE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

LET'S STAY POSITIVE ON THIS. NOBODY IS RIGHT AND NOBODY IS WRONG UNTIL WE TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> BETH TATE. I THINK EVERYBODY IS HANGING ON IMPACT FEES. I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY WOULD PAY FOR THIS ANYWAY. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOCUS ON THE BUDGET. WE DO HAVE INTELLIGENT VOTERS IN THE COUNTY. I'M NOT SURE WHY PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO LET IT GO TO THE VOTERS AND MAKE A DECISION.

IT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE BALLOT AND LET US

>> YES, SIR. PLEASE.

>> HI I'M JOE. 699 STANDARDS DRIVE ST.

AUGUSTINE. I URGE YOU NOT TO PUT THIS ONE % SALES TAX ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE IT WILL JUST BRING BIG MONEY FROM THE DEVELOPERS INTO THIS CAMPAIGN AND TO GET THE SAME PUSH. THE DEVELOPERS WANT THESE PROJECTS FUNDED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, NOT BY THEIR OWN IMPACT FEES. YOU GUYS JUST VOTED IN DECEMBER TO ADD FIVE THOUSAND BUILDING UNITS TO THE HUDSON PROJECT IN SILVER LEAF. MAYBE YOU DID THAT FOR BENIGN REASONS, MAYBE YOU THINK YOU WILL GET IMPACT FEES FOR THAT.

IN JOHN'S CREEK, YOU HAVE OVER A THOUSAND DWELLING UNITS AND ONLY 3500 RESIDENTS THERE. YOU'RE NOT GETTING IMPACT FEES THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ABUSE YOU OF THE NOTION, ALL ST. JOHNS COUNTY WILL SUFFER IF WE DON'T PASS THIS $0.01 SALES TAX. THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE BUILDING NORTH ST. JOHNS WILL SUFFER NOT US.

YOU HAD $26 MILLION TO STREAM LINE GOING DOWN FROM 9 B TO SILVER LEAF. I DROVE CROSS TOWN HERE AND IT TOOK ME FAR LONGER THAN GOING FROM DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE TO SILVER LEAF DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY.

ST. JOHNS PARK WAY IS ALL SILVER LEAF.

IT'S ALL HUDSON OWNED PROJECTS. I KNOW HUDSON HAS A LOT OF POLITICAL POWER HERE AND MAYBE YOU WANT TO FRONT LOAD THE PROJECTS. WAIT UNTIL THE IMPACT FEES COME ABOUT BEFORE YOU DO THE PROJECTS.

YOU ALSO HAVE $50 MILLION FOR PARKS.

AND THEY'RE ALL BY THE SILVER LEAF AND NOCATEE AND OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE THE SAME AMENITIES.

THEY HAVE DOG PARKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

YOU'RE HAVING ST. JOHNS COUNTY BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS MAKING NORTH ST. JOHNS COUNTY DO A BEDROOM COMMUNITY FOR JACKSONVILLE. NOW I LOVED IN ST. AUGUSTINE A

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I DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME THE JACKSONVILLE'S NEWEST SUBURB.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 15?

IS THAT ON? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TECHNOLOGY. DON'T WE LOVE IT? WHEN IT WORKS. B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. 8 NEW COME STREET.

WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO GET ON THE BALLOT.

THAT'S FOREGONE. BUT THE THING IS, I WILL BE BACK IN TWO WEEKS. ON THE MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED, THE MAPS PLURAL BY OMB, VERY INFORMATIVE EXCEPT AND I HAVE ASKED ABOUT THIS ON GOING FORWARD ON THE INFORMATION ON MY OWN. WE SHOULD HAVE SHOWN ALL THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS. NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE REALLY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OVER DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN BLAME 2000 YEARS AGO BUT THE FACT IS, THIS COMMISSION PEOPLE SITTING ON HERE HAVE PASSED MORE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

WE DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT THAT, BUT LET'S SAY IT.

SO, I HAVE GOT ONE MINUTE AND 55 SECONDS LEFT.

OOH. ZOOM IN.

LOVE IT. ALL RIGHTY.

WHAT DOES THAT SAY? 142.

NO. NO.

TAX TAX. HIKE.

H-I-K-E. NO TAX HIKE.

IT'S NOT FUNNY. BUT THIS IS TO GET IT ACROSS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HERE WHO CAN'T STAY UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING AND DO PUBLIC COMMENT LIKE SOME OF US.

I HOPE THAT SHOWS EVERYBODY WHERE I STAND.

I DON'T THINK I NEEDED TO PUT IT UP THERE.

I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE 1 MINUTE AND FOUR, THREE, TWO.

I HAVE MY TIME AND WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THIS.

CAN WE ZOOM IN MORE? NO.

BELOW TOM, HE TOLD ME HE WOULD DO IT AS BEST AS HE COULD.

I GUESS THAT'S OUR TECHNOLOGY THERE.

THAT UP THERE. 45 SECONDS FOLKS.

HAS EVERYBODY SEEN THAT? DO YOU REALLY GRASP WHAT IT SAYS? 37 SECONDS.

DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE A QUESTION? NO QUESTIONS. WELL I'M GOING TO GIVE UP MY LAST 30 SECONDS. THANKS A LOT.

>> THANK YOU MS. KLATY. ANYBODY ELSE? FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 15? THAT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW IF YOU'RE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.

NOBODY ELSE. SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO

CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS?

YOUR THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT? >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON ANY

COMMENTS FROM YOU? >> I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS WHERE I STAND. YOU KNOW EARLIER TODAY, WE LISTENED TO AN HOUR OR SO OF PEOPLE AND I DON'T THINK, EVEN FOR THEM THAT RAISING THE TAX WOULD HELP THEM AT ALL.

BUT, THAT'S ALL I GOT MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> OKAY. IF THERE AREN'T --

>> CHRISTIAN. I WANT TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE GENERAL CONCERNS OUT THERE. I THINK MOST OF MY DECISION IS BECAUSE OF WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

WHEN DR. PAVLOSKI SAID I WANT REPRESENT THE TAXPAYERS.

THEY REPRESENT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TELLING US THEY'RE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. THEY ARE DEMANDING THEIR COMMISSIONERS TAKE ACTION. THAT'S SOMETHING I'M HEARING FROM THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES. MARTY MCKEACHUM, HE REPRESENTS CREEK SIDE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT.

REPRESENTS THOUSANDS OF FAMILY AND DO GREAT SERVICES FOR OUR CHILDREN. THE NUMBER ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 6300 CHILDREN.

YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES TELLING COMMISSIONERS THEY ARE DEMANDING ACTION. AGAIN WE CAN'T MAKE THIS

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I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I THAT MR.

>> THANK YOU. >>

>> I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION TO STAFF.

WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE WE THOUGHT TOURIST WOULD BE PAYING

OF THIS PROPOSED SURTAX? >> IT'S APPROXIMATELY 35%.

>> OKAY. I STAND WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST ON THIS ONE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE AFRAID OF PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT.

I'M HEAR THE SAME THING FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS.

OUR GROWTH HAS OUTPACED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE EXTENT OUR ROADS ARE UNSAFE. AS A MOM, I HAVE TO SUPPORT US COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS RATHER THAN HARPING ON PROBLEMS. I SUPPORT LETTING THE VOTERS DECIDE.

WHETHER THEY WANT TO KEEP OUR STANDARD AND QUALITY OF LIFE IF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY OR WHETHER THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THE TAX.

ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR SPEAKING.

I HAVE A MOTHER WHO IS A WIDOW THAT LIVES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I'M ACUTELY AWARE OF THE ISSUES THAT COME WITH THAT.

WE HAVE ONE OF LARGEST DISABLED VETERANS POPULATION IN ST.

JOHNS. I'M A PART OF THAT POPULATION.

I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES WE'RE FACING.

I HAVE TWO CHILDREN THAT LIVE HERE AND A THIRD ON THE WAY.

I ALSO HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THE VOTERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE SMART INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO TAKE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WE HAVE AND DR., IF YOU'RE STILL HERE, I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY OF THAT. WE WENT THROUGH IN GREAT DETAIL HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT. I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY OF THAT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE VOTERS OF ST. JOHNS TO HEAR THAT. I THANK OUR CHAIRMAN AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE OUR VOTERS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THIS. I MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022-

>> 23. >> LEVYING A $0.01 INFRASTRUCTURE SALES TAX FOR 10 YEARS SECTION 212.055 PRIN 2 FLORIDA STATUTES AND SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL IN A COUNTY WIDE

[17. Extension of the agreement between the St. Johns County Community Redevelopment Agency and Vilano Beach Main Street, Inc.]

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE WILL TAKE A VOICE VOTE.

>> >>

>> COMMISSIONER >>

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD. >> YES.

AND I VOTE YES. THAT PASSES 4-1.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK 17 IS OUR LAST ITEM.

JOE, YOU'RE ON. >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

JUST TO REMIND THAT WE WILL NEED TO ADJOURN OR RECESS AS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND RECONVENE AS THE CRA.

>> FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY BE WONDERINGLYING -- WONDERING WHAT IS GOING ON HERE, THE COMMISSIONERS SERVE AS COMMISSIONERS FOR THE SAINT AUGUSTINE CRA AND VILANO BEACH.

WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SITS THE CRA FOR VILANO BEACH.

>> MR. CHAIR, RECESS FROM THE BCC AND CONVENE AS CRA.

>> THEN WE WILL ADJOURN AFTER THAT BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAST

ITEM. >> WE'RE GOING TO RECESS NOW AND GOING TO THE CRA. WE ALL HAVE ON OUR CRA HATS.

JOSEPH COHEN. THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A RENEWAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE VILANO BEACH MAIN STREET WHICH IS A SERVE AS A NON-PROFIT DEDICATED TO ENHANCING, PROMOTING AND PRESERVING THE HISTORIC CHARACTER AND ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE VIANNO BEACH TOWN CENTER. THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN 2018 AND FOR A REQUESTED $10,000 FUNDING.

IT HAS, THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS. THE AGREEMENT IS IN SUPPORT OF

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ANY QUESTIONS OF JOE? >> YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SOMEBODY ON THE VILANO BEACH CRA.

I LOVE THE FOLKS AT THE VILANO BEACH CRA.

I LOVE THE WORK THEY DO. IT'S A FANTASTIC COMMUNITY SO MANY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO. I NOTICE WE GOT A WHITE PAPER FROM OUR STAFF THAT KIND OF HAS THE FINANCIALS FOR ALL THREE CR AS THIS BOARD OVER SEES. THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA PAYS BACK 79% OF THE DEBT SERVICE. WITH THE VILANO BEACH CRA.

YOU PAY 46.4 % AND THE COUNTY PAYS THE DIFFERENCE.

HELP ME GET TO THE WHERE WE GET TO THIS.

THE COUNTY WILL SUPPLEMENT THE CRA.

WITH WEST AUGUSTINE ABLE TO PAY BACK 76%.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. WE TAKE A TEAM APPROACH TO MANAGING THE CRA. OUR BUDGET OFFICE HANDLES THE FINANCIALS. AS SALLY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT. IF I HAVE TO GUESS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. PART IS THE AMOUNT OF THE LAND MASS OF THE DIFFERENT CRAS. THE VILANO CRA IS MUCH SMALLER WAN WEST AUGUSTINE. IT HAS COMMERCIAL AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL. FLAGLER IS ALMOST 99%

COMMERCIAL. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THE VILANO CRA IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THE OTHER TWO.

WITH OUR SMALL LAND MASS THOUGH, WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED 10 YEARS OF GROWTH OF 276% INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES JUST FROM 2010 TO 2020. AND WE'RE STILL GROWING.

AND THINGS WILL NOT HIT THE TAX ROLLS UNTIL NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER. WE MIGHT BE SMALL BUT WE'RE

MIGHTY. >> I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THE VILANO BEACH CRA HAS DONE. I WAS SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND.

WE HAVE THE UNFORTUNATE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR TAX DOLLARS. SO I CAN EXPLAIN WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 17. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 17. HELLO.

I'M LINDA LASERVA. THE PRESIDENT OF VILANO MAIN STREET AND A BUSINESS OWNER ON VILANO MAIN STREET.

I MOVED MY RETAIL BUSINESS OF 12 YEARS FROM HISTORIC DOWNTOWN SAINT AUGUSTINE AND OPENED LABOR DAY.

I'M RIGHT THERE ON THE MAIN STREET EVERY SINGLE DAY.

IT IS OUR PURPOSE TO PRESERVE MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE THE HISTORIC VALUE OF VILANO BEACH AND KEEP ITS COOL, KITCHY BEACH FEEL. WE ARE MARKETING FOR THE BUSINESSES ALREADY THERE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED TO INTENSIFY THE BEAUTY OF MAIN STREET.

ANY KIND OF ORGANIZATION THAT RAISES ITS MONEY BASED ON MEMBERSHIPS, SPONSORSHIPS, FUNDRAISING EVENTS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS AND IT'S COVID AND YOU CAN'T GATHER AS COMMUNITIES, YOU CERTAINLY IMPACT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, YOU CAN RAISE.

WE ARE A STRONG COMMUNITY. WE'RE ONE COMMUNITY.

IT'S A NEW BEGINNING FOR US. WE WILL PUT IN AS MUCH VOLUNTEER TIME AND WORK AS HARD AS WE CAN TO MAKE AT THIS TIME MOST BEAUTIFUL MAIN STREET BUT WE NEED AND HELP WITH THE FUNDING AND APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE THING THE COUNTY IS DOING AND THEY ARE DOING A LOT FOR SXUS HAVE IN LAST COUPLE MONTHS.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU.

WOULD COUNCIL MEMBER ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

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GOOD AFTERNOON. >> THIS IS VIVIAN BRAWNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.

I WILL BE BRIEF. I AM 30 BEACH COMBER WAY.

I PAID INTO THE CRA FUNDS EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 21 YEARS IT'S BEEN ENFORCED THROUGH MY PROPERTIES.

I'M ALSO PAST PRESIDENT OF NORTH SHORE IMPROVEMENT.

I LED THE EFFORT WHEN THE CRA WAS ADOPTED AND CAN ANSWER THE 46 RULE. I HAVE TO MAKE MY POINTS ON THE THREE MINUTES. I WILL GIVE MY PAPERWORK OVER TO THE ATTORNEYS WHEN I FINISH RATHER THAN TRYING TO PUT IT UP THERE. I HAVE TWO POINTOS THIS AGENDA ITEM. FIRST, THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSION.

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

THIS WAS NOT IN LAST YEAR'S CONTRACT.

SO THIS CONTRACT HAS EMBEDDED NEW INFORMATION.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE Y'ALL CAN VOTE ON THIS TODAY BECAUSE THIS INFORMATION AND THIS STATEMENT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN THE TOWN CENTER AND ESPECIALLY TO THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THE CRA FUNDS. THE DISTANCE BETWEEN VILANO ROAD AND GARDNER WHICH INCLUDES NORTH SHORES IMPROVEMENT PAID THE BILLS, A PORTION OF OUR AD VALOREM TAX BASE.

I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. IF THEY ARE WILLING TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, THEY CAN GET COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR FUNDING THIS YEAR. PUTTING CHANGES THROUGH THE CONTRACT AND IT'S NOT EVEN ON Y'ALL'S MAIN PAGE AND IN THE UNLESS YOU READ THE WHOLE CONTRACT, WHICH I DID.

WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? SO, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CHANGED AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING THE CRA TAXES. 46% WAS BECAUSE OF A BIG DOWNTURN IN THE RECESSION SO THE BONDS GOT BEHIND IN MONEY COLLECTED BECAUSE OF THE STRETCH OUT OF DEVELOPMENT.

THEREFORE IT GOT BEHIND SALES TAX FILLS IN THE GAP TO PAY THE BONDS BUT THE SALES TAX IS GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE END OF CRA.

SO THOSE OF US WHO UNDERSTAND THE CRA AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE, WOULD LIKE THIS COMMITTEE TO BE MADE UP OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PEOPLE AND NOT 80% OF MAIN STREET IS RESIDENTIAL.

YOU GOT TO HAVE THE BUSINESS PEOPLE IF YOU WANT TO PAY THIS DEBT BACK OR COME UP WITH A SOLUTION WHEN THE 30 YEARS ENDS IN NINE YEARS THEN YOU HAVE A DECISION ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE

REMAINING DEBT. >> I EXTENDED MS. BROWNING EXTRA TIME BECAUSE SHE'S ANSWERING A QUESTION I ASKED.

>> YOU KNOW, I REALLY, REALLY, I AM NOT A CEREMONIAL HEAD AND I'M PAST PRESIDENT NOW. BUT, THE POINT IS THAT, SOMEONE HAS TO THINK OF THE DEBT. IT'S NOT THE PRETTINESS, MAIN STREET HASN'T BEEN NEGLECTED, THE STAFF THAT MANAGES THE LANDSCAPES TRIES TO DO IT ON $6,000 A YEAR AM YOU TRY TO DO YOUR OWN YARD FOR $500 A MONTH. I'M AFRAID WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.

>> I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.

I FEEL LIKE THIS LEGALLY AND WILL PASS IT ON.

I FEEL LIKE LEGALLY THIS IS NOT WHAT WE SIGNED ON FOR.

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>> YES, MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM. LOUD AND CLEAR.

WE HAVE IT. WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS. MS. O'HARA.

>> I'M SALLY O'HARA AND THE OFFICE IS 3101 FIRST STREET IN VILANO. COUPLE OF POINTS NOT TO BELABOR THE ISSUE. THE, THE LEGAL STAFF AND THE COUNTY HAS TACKLED REVIEWING MULTIPLE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, OCTOBER UNTIL NOW.

AND WITH THAT, THEY PRODUCED A WHITE PAPER.PAND I AM FULLY COM THE RESPONSES LEGALLY RESEARCHED ON THE WHITE PAPER AS FAR AS THE OPERATIONS OF THE CRA AND THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CURRENT

CONTRACT AS WE MOVE FORWARD >> LAST WAS FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD. NORMALLY YOU DO REVIEW CONTRACTS PERIODICALLY. THIS IS A RENEWAL CONTRACT WITH NEW TERMS AND CONDITIONS. AND THE CONDITION STATED IN 9 L OF THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT INDICATES THAT WE WILL AS VILANO BEACH MAIN STREET AND GUARDIANS CONDUCT ON OVER SEE OUR STEERING ADVOCACY COMMITTEE. WE ASK AND HOPEFULLY YOU APPROVE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I FULLY SENT THE LEGAL POSITION AS PRESENTED IN THE WHITE PAPER AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE ON WORKING WITH VILANO BEACH MAIN STREET FOR HOWEVER LONG I THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ED SLAVEN. I THINK MS. BROWNING RAISES GOOD ISSUES AND PERHAPS LEARNED COUNCIL THROUGH THE CHAIR COULD ADDRESS THEM. IT SOUNDS LIKE A CARDINAL CHANGE OR MIGHT BE. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT UNLESS YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH WHATEVER LEGAL ADVICE THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY GIVES OR THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS NOT HERE, THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TABLE THIS ONE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 17? SON, WE WILL CLOSE ON AGENDA

ITEM 17. >> SO OR JESSE OR JOY.

JUMP IN HERE AND HELP ME. WHAT INCREASE, WHAT FISCAL IMPACT INCREASES ARE THERE TO THE COUNTY IF WE TAKE AN ACTION TO APPROVE THIS EXTENSION OR THIS NEW CONTRACT? REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE CALL IT, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE MAYBE INCURRING GREATER COSTS. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF WE ARE, WHAT THOSE ARE AS WE, IF WE APPROVE THIS ITEM.

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? JOE?

>> I AM NOT SURE I DO, SIR. I APOLOGIZE.

JOY, I'M NOT SURE EITHER. I JUST, I HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT, IT WILL BE AT THE FINANCIAL DETRIMENT OF THE CRA AND TO THE TAXPAYERS.

MS. BROWNING ALLUDED TO THAT DURING HER PRESENTATION.

I'M TRYING TO IDENTIFY A IF THAT'S THE CASE AND B WHAT IS THE FISCAL IMPACT. YOO COMMISSIONER

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACT AMOUNT. BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSION BETWEEN ST. JOHNS AND MAIN STREET. AS FAR AS FINANCIAL IMPACT, IT STAYS THE SAME. AS FAR AS THE PROVISION AMENDED AND CHRISTINE YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, THEY WERE NOT SUBSTANTIAL THAT'S WHY IT'S CONTRACT EXTENSION.

OKAY. >> YES, SIR.

MS. VIVIAN, MS. BROWNING AND I SPOKE YESTERDAY.

I THINK SHE BROUGHT UP THE SAME CONCERNS TO ME.

A NUMBER OF US HAD A LOT OF INPUT INTO THE CONTRACT.

IT WAS OUR INTENTION TO CONTINUE THE CONTRACT THE SAME WAY IT WAS PREVIOUSLY. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAKING THE CRA BOARD'S, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY RECOGNIZED OFFICIAL VIA THE CRA OR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THIS CASE. THE FEEDBACK THAT WE WERE GETTING FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT WASN'T WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE. THAT AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT OR THE WORDING WAS SIMPLY TO DO THAT.

TO KEEP THAT VILANO STEERING COMING TO KEEP IT A VOLUNTEER BOARD THAT WE WOULD ENTER INTO A CONTRACT AND NOT OVER SEE.

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ALL WITHIN THE PURVIEWS OF CITIZENS ASKING FOR THESE THINGS. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO MANAGE THESE

THINGS PER SE. >> YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. WE'RE THE CRA.

YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE.

OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT INPUT.

THAT HELPS ME. THIS IS ALL OF US KNOW, VILANO IS DISTRICT FIVE. I WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION. AND I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT CA

2022- >> 1.

APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF TERMS AND PROVISIONS IN THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE ST. JOHNS REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND VILANO BEACH DISTRICT LLC TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE VILANO BEACH REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATE OR OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT IN THE SAME

FORM ATTACHED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE WILL HAVE A VOICE COMMISSIONER

>> YES, >> COMMISSIONER

>> >> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

>> YES. AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> AND YES AND I VOTE YES. PASSES 5-0.

I WANT TO SAY REGARDING THIS ITEM.

I WANT TO THANK VIVIAN BROWNING SINGS SHE JOINED US TODAY FOR HER 24 YEARS SERVICE FOR BOTH THE CRA AND MAIN STREET AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GENERATED THERE ALL THE BUSINESSES, THE HOTELS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES UNDER HER LEADERSHIP WITH OTHERS. WE HAVE TRANSITIONED TO A DIFFERENT GROUP MAKING UP BOTH MAIN STREET AND THE CRA STEERING COMMITTEE. I AM GOING TO MAKE A SPECIAL PLEA HERE AS THE DISTRICT LIAISON 5, DISTRICT 5, I HOPE THAT WE CAN A, RECOGNIZE ALL THE GOOD WORK AND HARD WORK THAT VIVIAN BROWNING HAS DONE AND HOPE WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH HARMONY AND GOOD GRACES TOGETHER, I WILL BE VISITING YOU GUYS TOMORROW AFTERNOON AT 4 O'CLOCK MAIN STREET MEETING.

I THINK IT'S ONLY PROPER THAT AS THE DISTRICT 5 COMMISSIONER, I THANK VIVIAN WHO STEPPED DOWN IN DECEMBER FROM THE MAIN STREET CRA STEERING COMMITTEE FOR ALL HER WORK OVER THESE YEARS TO BRING US WHERE WE ARE TODAY WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL, EXCITING LITTLE BEACH COMMUNITY WE CALL VILANO BEACH.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VIVIAN.

[APPLAUSE] OKAY.

THAT COMPLETES I BELIEVE THE AGENDA.

[Public Comment]

>> MR. CHAIR. >> MR. CHAIR.

I'M SORRY. TO INTERRUPT AGAIN.

JUST PROCEDURALLY, WE NEED TO ADJOURN THE CRA.

>> I'M GOING TO RECONVENE THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND HAVE

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO OFFER. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST WILL ANNOUNCE PUBLIC COMMENT. THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

ANY PERSON SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE HIS HER OR NAME.

YOU WILL BE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND COMPLY WITH THE BOARD'S RULES OF DECORUM. COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED FOR THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE. NO PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH PERSONAL OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHOULD REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE DEMONSTRATION OF COMMENTS. PLEASE PRESENT THE MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO PUBLIC

RECORD. >> CHUCK L.

1748 NORTH CAPERO. I WAS SURPRISED TOO THAT 16 WILL NOT BE WIDENED FOR ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS.

THAT MEANS 16 FROM BESETTI TO SOUTH FRANCIS WILL BE 14 YEARS.

THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE SEVEN YEARS AGO.

CONCERN IS THERE WILL BE OTHER PROJECTS COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO AFFECT 16. IF IT GETS PASSED THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING. THERE'S MULTIPLE PROJECTS.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND 16 RIGHT NOW CAN'T HANDLE ANYTHING MORE.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF POSSIBLE, CAN I GET SOME CREDITS? I WOULD LOVE TO GET AND CREDITS

[05:35:02]

JO THAT WAS GOOD. YES, SIR, NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> CERTAINLY, GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS MARCEL DOBBY.

MANAGER FOR WASTE SERVICES. I AM A PROUD ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENT IN THE NOCATEE AREA. WE ARE ACUTELY AWARE OF THE YARD WASTE DELAYS AND WORKING DILIGENTLY TO ENSURE THOSE ARE RESOLVED. I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE ON GOING COVID-19 PANDEMIC THAT HAS RESULTED IN SIGNIFICANT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND ALSO LABOR ISSUES.

AS I'M SURE YOU EXPERIENCED IF LOCAL RESTAURANTS OR RETAIL.

BUSINESSES ARE CLOSING EARLY AND CAN'T SEAT TABLES BECAUSE THEY HAVE SERVERS. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME THING WITHIN OUR CDL HOLDERS AND THERE'S A SHORTAGE NATIONALLY AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE. IN ORDER TO COMBAT THAT, WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED SIGNIFICANT WAGE INCREASES OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS. YOU MAY KNOW WASTE MANAGEMENT PURCHASED ADVANCED DISPOSAL TWO YEARS AGO AND ASSUMED THE CONTRACT AS PART OF THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE WITH OUR WAGE INCREASES, WE HAVE INCREASED 32% AND IT'S A SUPPLY AND DEMAND SITUATION. WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE WE'RE KEEPING UP ON THE WAGE SIDE TO BACK FILL THOSE EMPLOYEES.

THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THREE NEW HIRES IN DRIVING.

WE WORK DAILY WITH COUNTY STAFF. WE ARE A COUPLE DAYS BEHIND ON THE YARD WASTE SITE AND WILL SUBMIT A WRITTEN PLAN THAT DETAILS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO STAFF AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ENSURE YARD WASTE SERVICES ARE RETURNED ON TIME BACK TO THE COUNTY. WE KNOW THAT'S PAINFUL FOR YOURSELF AND RESIDENTS AND MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS AND IT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE. WE JUST DID $2 INCREASE IN FEBRUARY. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THAT POTENTIALLY AGAIN AS EARLY AS THIS MONTH.

SO, THIS SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS PRETTY FLUID RIGHT NOW AFFECTING ALL THINGS. WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. WE DID AT THE REQUEST OF COUNTY STAFF HAVE BROUGHT IN SIX ADDITIONAL DRIVERS LAST WEEK.

WE HAVE ALSO BROUGHT IN TWO ADDITIONAL TRUCKS TO REALLY HELP CATCH OURSELVES BACK UP ON YARD WASTE.

WE SERVICE AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THE SOUTHERN HALF OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND WE'RE WORKING HARD TO GET CAUGHT UP SO WE WILL BE BACK ON FULL SCHEDULE COME APRIL 1ST IN PREPARATION FOR THE BUSY YARD WASTE.

>> HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ED SLAVEN.

ED SLAVEN.COM. I AM REFERRING TO THE E-MAIL I SENT YOU AT 5:13. WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF MONOPOLY OF WASTE MANAGEMENT. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH EVERY COMPANY. NOT ONLY DEVELOPERS, WE NEED TO REPORT THEM. IF THERE'S ANTITRUST.

ANYTHING GOING ON, WE NEED TO REPORT THEM TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. THE ANTITRUST DIVISION.

AND THE CRIMINAL DIVISION. AND ALSO THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL. NOW I KNOW THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS BEEN LAX ABOUT THAT. IN FACT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THE SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD REPORTED THERE WAS ONLY ONE BID FOR A NEW SCHOOL AND SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS MORE ON THAN WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD ESTIMATED IT WOULD COST.

AND I TALKED TO PATRICK CANAN ABOUT THAT AT THE TIME.

AND HE GOT REALLY ANGRY AND DIDN'T WANT TO REPORT, HE WAS A CHAIRMAN. HE DIDN'T WANT TO REPORT TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. I DON'T SEE WHY WE WASTE SO MUCH MONEY ON CONTRACTS AND DON'T EVEN POST ONLINE LIKE THE CITY OF ORLANDO. THAT COST NOTHING TO DO THAT.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

WE NEED TO REFORM GOVERNMENT PURCHASING AS WE KNOW IT.

WE NEED TO STOP JUST RUBBER STAMPING CONTRACTS AT THIS BCC.

Y'ALL JUST PASSED A PURCHASING POLICY TODAY THAT WAS DEEPLY FLAWED AND INSTEAD OF TABLING IT, YOU JUST RUBBER STAMPED IT.

IT'S LIKE THEY SAID ABOUT OKAY ALAN WHO WAS HUGHEY LONG'S PUPPET GOVERNOR AFTER HE LEFT IN LOUISIANA.

[05:40:02]

WE NEED TO REQUIRE LOBBYING REGISTRATION AND LOBBY DISCLOSURE. THAT WAS TUBED A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN JAY MORRIS SAID A $25 A YEAR FEE WOULD BE BURDEN SOME.

THE DEVELOPERS RUN THIS COUNTY. THEY RUN YOUR CAMPAIGNS.

PEOPLE LIKE THOMAS MARTIN IS OUR LOB LOBBYIST. HE ALSO WORKS FOR NOCATEE AND THE SHERIFF AND THE PARK GROUP. GIVE ME A BREAK.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

YES, MA'AM. >> SHERRY BADGER, 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE, SAINT AUGUSTINE FLORIDA.

I WILL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE AT BAY. THIS IS TRUCKS STILL USING THE ENTRANCE ON COLLINS. THIS WEEK OKAY.

THIS IS THE WATER THAT IS STILL COMING DOWN OFF THE STREET, THIS IS THE DITCH, WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAVE A NOR EASTERN OR ANY KIND OF STORM DRAINAGE. THAT DITCH IS FULL.

IT'S SIX FEET WIDE. FOUR FEET DEEP.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER DEAN, THERE'S THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD FULL OF WATER. HERE'S ANOTHER ONE AS IT WAS FILLING UP. THERE'S THE 24-INCH CULVERT THEY PUT IN A 300 FEET DEEP DITCH. IT HOLDS THAT MUCH WATER.

IT GOES INTO AN 18-INCH CULVERT AT THE HIGHWAY.

Y'ALL HAVEN'T SOLVED THE DRAINAGE ISSUES SINCE I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

HERE'S WATER STANDING ON THE ROAD WHERE THEY JUST DOES THE

ROAD IMPROVEMENT. >> CAN YOU MOVE THE PICTURE, WE CAN'T SEE IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT.

>> THAT ONE? >> WELL, THEN, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE AIRPORT, I KNOW Y'ALL SAY THE AIRPORT ISN'T AN ENTITY AND THEY'RE OFF THE TAX ROLLS AND BLAH BLAH BLAH, BUT SINCE 1963, THEY HAVE BEEN AN ENTITY.

I WAS AT THE AIRPORT WHEN THE AIRPLANE CRASHED AND THE LADY IN THE MARSH SCREAMED ARE NEAR 25 MINUTES.

I HEAR RESPONSE TIME WAS SIX MINUTES.

GENTLEMEN THAT IS TRUE. THE FIRE ENGINES AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT GOT THERE WITHIN 6:00.

THEY STOOD HELPLESSLY ON TOP OF THEIR TRUCKS LOOKING FOR THE AIRPLANE THAT WAS FLIPPED OVER IN THE MARSH WHERE THE LADY FOR 25 MINUTES SCREAMED HELP ME. OKAY.

THIS WAS REALLY PRETTY EMOTIONAL.

BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE GOVERNING WHAT IS GOING ON.

THEY SAY THEY ARE UNGOVERNABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AN ENTITY IN THE COUNTY. THEY NEED TO BE IN A ROOM LIKE Y'ALL ANSWERING QUESTIONS TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COUNTY.

IF I WAS THAT LADY'S FAMILY, I WOULD BE FINDING OUT WHY IT TOOK 45 MINUTES TO RESCUE HER MARSH. ANYBODY ELSE FOR

>> YES, SIR. PLEASE.

>> I WILL GO RIGHT HERE BECAUSE IT'S ON.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> JOE RYAN. 699 STANDARDS DRIVE.

>> I WANT TO HAVE YOU GUYS THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT HOW ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS GROWING AND WHY IT'S GROWING.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT'S THE SCHOOLS AND ALL THIS STUFF. MAYBE IT IS.

IS JUST MIGHT BE BECAUSE THE BOARD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS HAS BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DEVELOP ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. I REMEMBER VILANO BEACH, THEY REROUTED A 1 A AROUND THIS BIG CONDO AND THEY BASICALLY PRIVATIZED A WHOLE SECTION OF THE BEST PART OF VILANO BEACH.

[05:45:01]

WE'RE MAKING, I DON'T KNOW, YOU APPROVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE AND I GOT TO THINK THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE GROWING SO FAST.

THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO BUSINESS IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER.

IT'S NOT THAT YOU KNOW, I SAID EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S TOO EASY.

AND YOU'RE TOO ACCOMMODATING AND PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE IT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED. AND JUST GENERALLY I THINK YOU GOT TO SIT BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO OUR COUNTY. AND JUST REFLECT ON MAYBE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE COLLUDING PROBABLY UNWILLINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY WITH DEVELOPERS TO HELP THEM MAKE A FORTUNE AND THE SALES TAX IS ANOTHER PART OF IT. WE'RE JUST TOO, IT'S TOO EASY TO PUT A DEVELOPMENT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WITHOUT ACTUALLY SUFFERING THE COST OF DOING IT. SO THE DEVELOPERS ARE PROFITING MIGHTILY. WHY AREN'T WE GROWING ANY BIGGER? WE WOULD BE.

THERES NO REASON FOR DEVELOPERS NOT TO GO TOO DUVAL COUNTY WHEN THEY CAN GET A GOOD DEAL HERE. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. MR. G.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.

JOE, PO BOX 5194. SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M HERE AS THE PALM COAST NAVY LEAGUE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR A 24 YEAR COAST GUARD RETIREE.

I'M HERE TO INVITE YOU TO THE NAVY LEAGUE IS SPONSORING A COAST GUARD BAND APRIL 4TH AT 7:00 P.M.

IT'S A FREE CONCERT. IT TOOK US ABOUT 12 YEARS TO GET THEM BACK HERE. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM COME. WE HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND SEATS.

THE TICKETS ARE FREE BUT GOING QUICKLY.

SO I PERSONALLY WANTED TO INVITE THE BOARD ADMIN, LEGAL, ANYBODY LISTENING TO MY VOICE TO COME ENJOY THE COAST GUARD BAND.

IT'S VERY EXCITING TO HAVE THEM. 55 INSTRUMENTS.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AND A VERY FUN TIME FOR THE NIGHT HERE. HERE IS THE WEBSITE.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GET FREE TICKETS.

WHEN YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, REGISTER FOR FOUR TICKETS BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS, YOU CAN REGISTER AS MANY TIMES. YOU CAN GET 16 TICKETS OR AS MANY AS YOU WANT. I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE VETERANS FOR THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU. FANTASTIC.

THANKS. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

REMEMBER THE TPC IS LOCATED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

AS A 501 C 3. THEY MAY NO PROPERTY TAXES.

AS SUCH, THEY CAN WRITE OFF ALL DONATIONS TO ALL NON-PROFITS.

PLEASE CONTACT GOVERNOR DESANTIS AND ASK HIM NOT TO GIVE 5 MILLION TAX DOLLARS TO FLAGLER COLLEGE.

THAT INSTITUTION HAS OVER 70 MILLION ENDOWMENT DOLLARS.

THEY JUST BUILT A BALL FIELD ON 207.

OUR TAX DOLLARS SHOULD NOT GO TO THIS NON-PROFIT.

THEY DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES. IT WAS DISAPPOINTING THE FOOD TRUCK GANG WAS ALLOWED TO BE DISRUPTIVE AS THEY LEFT THE MARCH ONE, 2022 BCC MEETING DECORUM DOES NOT APPLY TO EVERYONE. PARTIALITY IS AN INTERESTING WORD. CHANGING NUMBER 16 TO TIME CERTAIN NO PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THAT.

TIME CERTAIN FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT COULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED AT THE SAME TIME. THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE MOVED BACK BEFORE AGENDA ITEM ONE.

[05:50:01]

AND MR. JOE G. THE ONLY THING, I COULDN'T SEE WHERE IS THAT LITTLE CONCERT GOING TO BE.

YOU SAID EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW AND THE PEOPLE AT HOME DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE.

CAN YOU YELL IT AT ME SO I CAN SAY IT OUT LOUD.

[Commissioners’ Reports]

>> ANASTASIA BAPTIST CHURCH. OH , YOUR VOICE CHANGED MR. JOE G BUT WE HEARD YOU. ANASTASIA BAPTIST CHURCH IN ST.

AUGUSTINE. THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE A MANIKIN WORKING WITH YOU.

GOOD FOR YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE. WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE GENERAL

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. LET'S TURN OUR ATTENTION TO BOARD COMMENTS. I WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER

BLOCKER TODAY. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME AND GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY SAINT PATRICKS DAY. COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

YOU WITH US? >> YES, SIR.

STILL HERE. JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY LIKE COMMISSIONER BLOCKER SAID FOR COMING OUT TODAY.

ALSO WANTED TO CONGRATULATE ALL THE NEW FIREMEN, FIRE LADIES THAT WE HAD GRADUATE FROM OUR FIRST CLASS OF THE YEAR.

I WENT TO THE CEREMONY THE OTHER NIGHT.

DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, OVER 30 NEW FIRE PEOPLE WE HIRED AND THEY STARTED, THEY GRADUATED ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND STARTED WORK ON SUNDAY. THAT WAS A GOOD THING FOR THEM.

APPRECIATE ALL SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S IT FOR ME

MR. CHAIRMAN. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH PAUL. >> MISSED YOU TODAY IN PERSON.

HOPEFULLY, YOU WILL BE BACK ON THE 5TH OF APRIL.

>> YES, SIR. I HOPE SO.

>> NO REPORT MR. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THANKS FOR EVERYBODY COMING OUT AND YOUR COMMENTS TODAY.

I'M THRILLED AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF DISTRICT TWO FOR THE HASTING AND THE MEDICAL CLINIC.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A PROJECT THAT WILL HAVE GENERATIONAL CHANGE IN A HISTORICALLY COMMUNITY.

>> I'M THRILLED. >> IF IT'S A CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, I WILL SUGGEST WE HAVE OUR SECOND GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP WHEN WE ANNOUNCED TO THE PUBLIC IN JANUARY FOLLOWING THE JANUARY 25TH WORKSHOP, HAVE THAT ON APRIL 26TH AT 9:00 A.M.

HERE IN THE AUDITORIUM. AND A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS SUGGESTED AT THIS POINT IS TO DISCUSS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT LIKE PROP SHARE MULTIPLIERS AND AGREEMENTS AND DISCUSS THE POLICY ADDRESSING FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT FEES VERSUS MOBILITY FEES.

JEREMIAH AND IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONER HAS ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AS WE GO FORWARD ON AGENDA ITEMS, JUST LET EITHER HUNTER OR JOY KNOW AND WE WILL FINALIZE THE AGENDA.

HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS AVAILABLE FOR APRIL 26TH BETWEEN MEETINGS OR AFTER THE 19TH MEETING. I DID WANT TO JUST MENTION BRIEFLY, I THINK HUNTER, YOU MIGHT BE SENDING OUT A PRESS RELEASE OR ANNOUNCEMENT THAT SUBJECT TO THE GOVERNOR'S VETO PIN, WE GOT A RECORD AMOUNT OF LEGISLATIVE FUNDING IN THE BUDGET THIS WAS FINALIZED YESTERDAY.

[County Administrator’s Report]

AND WITH THE STAFF CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH A LIST OF ITEMS BUT I THINK AT LEAST IN MY RECOLLECTION THAT'S THE HIGHEST AMOUNT WE RECEIVED DURING ANY BUDGET YEAR AS A COUNTY.

SO THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD DEAL FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

SO, I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO ITEMS I WANTED TO MENTION.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> I WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF

[05:55:01]

SO YOU'RE AWARE. CONTRACT MANAGEMENT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. WE HIRED AN EMPLOYEE TO DO CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AND WORKING

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.