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[Call to Order by Chair]

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>>> GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE ST. JOHNS COMMISSION MEETING, WE WILL START WITH A ROLL CALL.

IF THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

HENRY DEAN. , HERE.

>> CHRISTIAN WHITEHURST. >> PRESENT.

>> SARA ARNOLD. >> COMMISSIONER PAUL WALDRON.

>> AND JEREMIAH BLOCKER, PRESENT.

>> WE HAVE A QUORUM. LET'S DO.

-- WE'LL START WITH THE INVOCATION FROM THE PASTOR AND THE PLEDGE WILL BE GIVEN BY ONE OF MY HEROES RAY QUINN.

IF YOU WILL STAND. >> THE FIRST OF THE MONTH I WILL SHARE WHAT I DO IS READ PSALM ONE.

BLESSED IS THE MAN WHO WALKS NOT IN THE COUNCIL OF THE WICKED OR IN THE WAY OF SINNERS OR SITS IN THE SEAT OF SCOFFERS BUT DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF THE LORD.

HE MEDITATES DAY AND NIGHT. HE IS LIKE A TREE PLANTED BY STREAMS BY WATER BUT YIELDS THE FRUIT IN THE SEASON AND ITS LEAF DOES NOT WITHER IN ALL HE DOES HE PROSPERS.

LET'S PRAY. THANK YOU FOR THE MEETING TODAY EIGHT COMMIT THE MEETING AND TIME, THE AGENDA, ALL THE ITEMS AND THE LEADERSHIP TO YOU. WE ASK THIS MONTH WILL BE A MONTH OF PROSPERING AND A MONTH OF YIELDING AND GOD WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND WISESOME IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.

>> RAY QUINN WAS A SERGEANT MAJOR IN THE ARMY IF I RECALL.

I WILL CALL ON THE JUNIOR >>> IER TO DO THE PLEDGE.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FO WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL

>> THANK YOU. >>> THE NEXT ITEM I'M EXCITED

[Proclamation Recognizing February 2022 as Black History Month]

NUMBER ONE TO HONOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND MY FRIEND COMMISSIONER RUMRAIL HAD A GREAT IDEA AND THAT IS TO EXHIBIT UNITY AND TOGETHERNESS.

HE SUGGESTED THAT I SHOULD INVITE OUR CITIES TO JOIN US AND, THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. THEY AGREE.

SO I'M GOING TO FIRST, AS I CALL YOUR NAME.

COME UP TO THE FRONT MELISSA WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION.

IF WE CAN HAVE GAIL PHILLIPS. ARE YOU HERE? ROBERT NEANS. BARBARA WONDER.

JOHN REAGAN. MEREDITH RIDSTEIN.

ROXANNE MOREVATH AND FROM ST AUGUSTINE.

WE'LL HAVE THE PROCLAMATION AND WE'LL HAVE THE READING OF THE PROCLAMATION. A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN ST. JOHNS, FLORIDA.

ORIGINS DATING BACK TO 1926 BLACK HISTORY MANT WAS ESTABLISHED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF DR. WOODSON WHO FOUNDED THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LIFE AND HISTORY AND WHEREAS DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY WE CELEBRATE THE AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE U.S.

AND CULTURAL IDENTITY. THE THEME FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN 2022 IS BLACK HEALTH AND WELLNESS WHICH THE LEGACY

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OF SCHOLARS AND MIDWIVES. HERBALISTS AND MORE IN WESTERN MEDICINE AND ACTIVITIES AND THEY HAVE DONE WELL.

WHEREAS AFRICAN HISTORY SPANS MORE THAN 450 YEARS AND ST.

JOHNS HOME IS HOME TO THE FORT MOSA AS THE FIRST FREE AFRICAN-AMERICAN SETTLEMENT IN THE PRESENT BOUNDARIES OF THE US. AND WHERE THE HISTORIES OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS, ST AUGUSTINE AND ST. JOHNS A CONNECTED AND EVENTS THAT HELPED SHAPE THE NATION AND ST. JOHNS IS D DEDICATED TO HONORING THE PRACTICE AND CONTRIBUTIONS AMERICANS BROUGHT AND CONTINUE TO BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS, FLORIDA. THAT FEBRUARY 2022 BE DESIGNATED AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE ST. JOHNS BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS THIS FIRST DAY OF FEBRUARY 2022 MARK MINER RECEIVE DEPUTY CLERK OF ST.

JOHNS, FLORIDA. HENRY DEAN CHAIR.

BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CROW AND THE COMMUNITY OF WEST AUGUSTINE, WE ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON THIS FIRST DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2022, BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS IMPORTANT TO THE NATION, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE THE RICH HISTORY AND RESILIENT CULTURE.

CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE OLDEST CITY ENHANCES OUR CORE VALUES, EMPOWERS OR NEXT GENERATION AND ENCOURAGES OR YOUTH FOR WHAT THEY STAND FOR. MY KIDS AND THE CRA HAVE JOINED ME TODAY TO HONOR OUR BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND CELEBRATE THE PAST AND PRESENT BLACK CULTURE.

I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR THE GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATIONS.

THE LINCOLNVILLE MUSEUM IF YOU HAVE NOT TOURED OR VISITED IT, YOU NEED TO. THAT'S IMPRESSIVE AND GAIL AND HER HUSBAND DO A GREAT JOB. I'LL PRESENT THIS TO GAIL, SHE

MAY SAYS A WORD OR TWO. >> , THANK YOU.

>> ON BEHALF OF THE MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTER THE MISSION IS TO PRESERVE, PROMPT AND PERPETUATE THE HISTORY OF S SAINT ST. JOHNS AS IT RELATES TO PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DECENT.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO IN OUR ARCHIVES AND PROGRAMS. I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION BUT I'M SADDENED THAT PROPOSED LEGISLATION THREATENS THE ABILITY OF THE MUSEUM AND OTHERS WHO ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE HISTORY AND TO MAKE IT A CRIME TO DO SO. WE ARE HONORED TO BE HERE AND BEFORE OUR COMMISSION WHICH VALUES AND RECOGNIZES -- RECOGNIZES THE VALUE OF SHARING 450 PLUS YEARS OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY. THIS IS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SINCE THE VERY START OF LIFE IN FLORIDA AS WE KNOW IT WERE HERE. THE HISTORY IS CHRONICLED IN THE MUSEUM. COME AND VISIT US THERE.

THANK YOU.

[Acceptance of Proclamation]

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>>> I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATIONS.

>> SO MOVED. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYET IS

[Public Safety Update]

ACCEPTED. >> WE WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY REPORT. WHO IS PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF

THAT, SOME ON, SHERIFF. >> GOOD MORNING.

STAFF. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE BEFORE THE DIRECTOR COLE WHO IS IN THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION WE DON'T TALK VERY OFTEN ABOUT TOPICS THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.

I WANTED TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, WE HAVE INCREASED DEATH AS OCCURRED IN ST. JOHNS.

MOST IS TRAFFIC RELATED. IN THE EARLY INFANT STAGES OF THE INVESTIGATION SOME ARE HANDLED BY THE HIGHWAY PATROL, SOME BY THE ST. JOHNS SHERIFF'S OFFICE, DEPENDING ON THE JURISDICTION AND MAN POWER BY THE HIGHWAY PATROL.

THAT BEING SAID. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS TRAFFIC DELAYED ESPECIALLY FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CHILDREN AND TIMES OF THE DAY, WE TRY TO PUT THAT ON MEDIA SO PEOPLE CAN START RECRUITING THEIR TRAVEL W THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW ONE THING I HAVE NOT DONE IS NOT RELEASING TOO MUCH INFORMATION PREMATURELY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE. THAT BEING SAID AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CHIEF OUR MEN AND WOMEN ARE ON THE SCENE AND THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS NOTIFYING THE VICTIMS AND TAKING CARE THE ONES THAT ARE INJURED, WHEN THAT GOES ON.

WE HAVE LITTLE INFORMATION. THE HOMICIDE INVESTIGATORS WHO THE EXPERTS HANDLED THE DEATHS AND THE CRASHES, WE'RE GATHERING FACTS. THE RELATIONSHIP OF US SIDE BY SIDE, COMMISSIONERS WE WERE ALL IN A MEETING WITH THEIR COMMAND STAFF AND MY COMMAND STAFF WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED, THE CRASH ON COUNTY ROAD 210 WHICH HAD MULTIPLE DEATHS.

WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND NEWS OUTLETS AND THE POWER OF THE FINGERS ON THE PHONE, INFORMATION GETTING OUT BEFORE WE CAN RELEASE ANYTHING TO YOU OR THE COMMUNITY.

THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT, THE ONLY LONE SURVIVING GENTLEMAN IN THE ONE CAR WHERE THE OTHER THREE WERE DECEASED WAS IN CONTACT WITH HIS COMPANY, IN CONTACT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PUTTING OUT INFORMATION BASED ON HIM BEING A WITNESS IN A TRAFFIC CRASH INVOLVED. WITH THAT I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU I'M CAREFUL AND CAUTIOUS OF WHAT I DO RELEASE TO YOU AND WHAT I WILL RELEASE TO YOU SOMETIMES I WILL BE HONEST I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT. AS YOUR SHERIFF HERE IN ST.

JOHNS AS I GET THE SAINTS I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTEP MY BOUNDARIES AND QUESTION MY STAFF SAYING WHAT DO YOU HAVE, WHAT IS GOING ON. IN THIS INSTANT WE HAD ONE DECEASED I HATE TO US THE WORD SO AND TWO OTHERS PASSED AWAY IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS AT HOSPITALS IN DUVAL COUNTY WHICH IS OUT OF OUR JURISDICTION WHEN THE SELECTION OF THE BODIES ARE BROUGHT TO THE MILES PER HOUR. I WANTED TO SAY, HEY, I KNOW DURING A HURRICANE THE COMMISSIONERS AND NO DISRESPECT WE COMMUNITIED OFTEN AND SENT YOU A TEXT AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE BEACH WHEN I WAS THE CHIEF AND THE THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

I THINK IF I ASK YOU WHAT THE DEFINITION IS AND CRITICAL INCIDENT I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD AGREE WITH ANYBODY ON IT. WE HAD A HORRIBLE MURDER-SUICIDE IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF SUNDAY.

WHERE TWO DEPUTIES LIVES WERE TAKEN FROM HILLSBOROUGH.

THE SHERIFF FLEW UP HERE WE WERE WITH HIS PERSON THAT WERE HERE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY HAD ON THEIR HANDS TO GO BACK HOME TO THEIR AGENCY W THAT SAID I'M RESPECTFUL AND HILLSBOROUGH SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND LARGE AGENCY WHERE THEY HAD

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40 MENTAL HEALTH WORKERS TRYING TO DEAL WITH TWO DEATHS OF THE DEPUTIES SHERIFFS AND THE AGENCY.

I IT IS OPEN ENDED TO YOU. I WILL TELL YOU THIS MY PHONE IS ON. YOU HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN TO CALL YOU. THAT WILL HAPPEN.

IT IS. HOWEVER, WHAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED -- COMMITTED TO YOU, COMMISSIONERS, THE REZONING AND REGIONALISATION PLAN WE HAVE A CAPTAINS IN YOUR DISTRICTS NOW WE HAD TO BREAK IT UP ST. JOHNS IS GROWING TO FAST.

SOME MAY HAVE THE SAME CAPTAIN AS THE PERSON AND CALL IT.

A CAPTAIN IN THE NORTH REGION AND SOUTHERN.

I WANTED TO DISCUSS THIS AND THE SUNSHINE GET ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC. YOU HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.

I HAVE A PERSONAL PHONE THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR CONVERSATION. WITH THE ATTORNYS HERE TO MY LEFT I KNOW MR. COMMISSIONER WERE YOU A FORMER PROSECUTOR I WANTED TO OPEN UP AND SAY I WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF GETTING YOU INVOLVED IN OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, TOO. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE INCIDENT IS. I APOLOGIZE TO YOU.

THE TRAFFIC CRASH IN YOUR JURISDICTION AND THE DOUBLE MURDER/SUICIDE WAS IN YOUR JURISDICTION.

THE LAST THING IS CONTACTING YOU AND WHO THE DECEASED ARE, WHO THE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE AND HOW MANY MORE DEAD ARE THERE? IT IS OPEN ENDED I WANT TO DISCUSS HERE OPENLY BEFORE I

SIT DOWN. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

FROM THE BOARD? >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. WE HAVE A CONSTITUENT THAT HAS A CONCERN THAT SOMETHING IS GOING ON, IS IT YOUR PREFERENCE ADD CONTACT AND A LIAISON I BELIEVE IN MY DISTRICT IT IS CAPTAIN WHIRLEY. WE HAVE CONCERNS MY PRACTICE UP TO THIS POINT IS REACH OUT TO THE CAPTAIN BEFORE THAT.

WE HAVE A CONCERN AND IS THAT YOUR KREFRPBS THE BEST WAY TO GET THAT DO WE GO THROUGH THE LIASION?

>> SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON I DIDN'T RELEASE THE INFORMATION IT IS NOT DOING IT.

AND IF THE IN YOUR DISTRICT INVOLVED A HIGH-RANKING SON AT THE CLAY COUNTY IT WAS OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

WE HAVE ANOTHER SHERIFF'S OFFICE THEY DO NOT SHOW UP BECAUSE THEIR SON IS ALIVE IN THE INCIDENT.

YES, IT IS EASIER IF YOU HAVE A DIRECT CONDUCT.

YOU KNOW THIS I GIVE YOU THE TIME WHEN I'M IN A MEETING WITH YOU OR ONE OF THE CITIZENS, THEY DESERVE THE RESPECT, WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A DIRECT CONTACT. WHEN YOU ESTABLISH THOSE RIPS LIKE YOU HAVE. AND YOU WILL WITH YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, IT MAY BE A TEXT FROM THEM SAYING CALL ME AS OPPOSED TO LET'S GET INVOLVED IN A RECORD REQUEST OF TRYING TO RELEASE INFORMATION FROM MY CELL PHONE TO THE 5 OF YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS BACK.

I WANT TO RESPOND BACK SAYING THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR NOW.

AND I -- I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE AS YOU KNOW I'M EASIER AT NIGHT TIME TO GET HOLD OF THAN THE DAY TIME.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A CONTACT. COMMISSIONER I LOOK AT YOU YOU'RE THE NEWEST ON THE DIAS. IT IS I WANT TO GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS. AND YOU KNOW AND WHAT YOU DON'T WANT AND E-MAILS I WILL NEVER PUT YOU IN THAT CALL ME, SIR.

YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS AND THAT'S WHAT I KNOW AS OPPOSED

TO WHAT IS BEING RELEASED. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> I APPRECIATE THE, YOU KNOW THE BIG RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE WHEN THERE IS A INCIDENT ON THE ROADS AND THE INFORMATION.

I THINK WHAT CAME OUT OF THIS INCIDENT A FEW DAYS AGO, A WEEK AGO IS THAT, YOU KNOW I WAS BEING NOTIFIED BY THE MEDIA WHAT HAPPENED. THAT WAS DIFFICULT TO TRY TO

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RESPOND. TO GET INFORMATION OUT AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND WITH, YOU KNOW BEING SORT OF BLIND SIDED BY THE EVENT. IN YOUR MIND WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE GOING ON, YOU KNOW TO PROTECT AND SERVE, IS IT POSSIBLE NOT THE DETAILS BUT A NOTIFICATION THAT THERE WAS A CRITICAL INCIDENT AND A LOSS OF LIFE IN THE DISTRICTS AND THE MEDIA MAY BE REACHING OUT JUST SO YOU'RE IN THE LOOP S IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT OR IS THAT NO TIME?

>> I THINK WE NOT ALL OF YOU WANT THE INFORMATION.

I'M BEING HONEST WITH YOU. THAT BEING SAID IT IS A THING AGAIN I WOULD LEAVE IT TO MY CAPTAIN.

DO YOU NOT WANT TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN EVERY DEATH OCCURS OUR OVERROSE RATE IS UP. FATALITIES ON 95 AND THEN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. AND THEN A DOUBLE MURDER AT 2 A.M. ON A SATURDAY NIGHT SUNDAY MORNING.

THERE ARE THINGS, I FEEL LIKE, DON'T TAKE THIS AS DISRESPECT BUT I DON'T WANT TO BOTHER YOU.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL WE ASK THAT YOU DON'T GET IN THE BUSINESS OF GIVING COMMENTS TO THE MEDIA AND WE HAVE AN EXPERT AND IT IS LOCAL NEWS. WE WOULD RATHER NOT GIVE INFORMATION TO THE MEDIA ON THE CASES IN FORWARD THEM TO US.

AND YOU CALL ME SAYING WE HAVE, YOU KNOW X CALLING US.

CAN YOU ADDRESS IT. WE WILL ADDRESS IT ON OUR SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WE HAVE TIGHTENED IT UP A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS WITH THE MEDIA.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET. OUR PRIORITY IS TO THE VICTIM'S FAMILY. IT IS A TRAGEDY. AND TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS BY THE WAY IS ALL OF OUR WORSE NIGHTMARES.

WE WERE ALL TOGETHER IT TOOK US HOURS TO IDENTIFY THE OTHER DECEASED IN THE HOSPITAL. WE WERE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT SIDE BY SIDE AND WITH MY STAFF AND THE STAFF TO FIND THE FAMILIES BECAUSE WE HAD A LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WITH THREE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE DECEASED. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT I'LL, IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THIS, I'LL LET YOU TALK TO YOUR CAPTAIN OR MYSELF ONE ON ONE. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR.

AND IT IS PART OF THE DAILY DUTIES.

FOR US DEALING WITH DEATH IS PART OF OUR JOB.

AND CRASHES. SOME OF THESE ARE TRULY ACCIDENTS. NONE ALCOHOL RELATED SOMEWHERE SOMEONE IS DRIVING OR RUNNING FROM COMMITTING A CRIME.

THEY ARE ACCIDENTS SO WITH THAT, AGAIN A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF INFORMING YOU WITH THE GUIDANCE OF THE ATTORNEY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THEY, AGAIN. THE FORMER PROSECUTOR NOT GET INVOLVED TO THE MEDIA ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WHAT IS HAPPENING, THEY'RE NOT GETTING INFORMATION FROM US OR FIRE RESCUE, WE DON'T HAVE IT TO GIVE AND WAITING ON THE VICTIM NOTIFICATION AND NEXT OF KIN. WE HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE THEM.

ANOTHER AGE TOLL GET THE INFORMATION AND BE CAREFUL BUT WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT INDIVIDUALLY, SIR.

>> YES, SIR. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. I WILL CALL DIRECTOR COLE UP HERE AND APPRECIATE YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

SUPPORT. >> SKIP COLE THE HEAD OF THE INVESTIGATIONS UNIT. WE'RE IN 2022.

I WILL SHARE JUST SOME STATS TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME SITUATIONAL AWARENESS OF LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HOW BUSY WE ARE.

LAST YEAR WE RESPONDED TO 272 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THAT'S UP 25,000 CALLS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

WE RECEIVED 115,911 CALLS THAT'S UP 15,000 FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND JUST ABOUT EVERY AREA WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND 5000 THAT'S UP 1000 AND ARRESTS 3700 AND THAT'S A FLAT NUMBER AND THEN IN TERMS OUR AVERAGE DAILY JAIL POPULATION.

WE'RE AVERAGING 415 PEOPLE THAT WE'RE IN THE CARE, CUSTODY AND CONTROL OF ON ANY GIVEN DAY. ON TOP OF THE 300,000 PEOPLE WE SERVE AND PROTECT OVER 600 SQUARE MILES 365 DAY AS YEAR NEVER CLOSING FOR THE LAST 200 YEARS WE'RE SUPPORTED BY A CIVILIAN STAFF THAT TAKES CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. TO GIVE YOU THE IDEA OF THE TYPE AND VOLUME. THEY HAVE PROCESSED 1500 OPTIONS. AND 160 SEPARATIONS OVER THE

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PAST YEAR, WE PROCESSED AND AND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS.

AND DURING THE SAME TIME AND 23 WORN AND 12 CIVILIANS.

WE ARE BUSY ON RECRUITING AND REESSENTIAL.

WE HAVE TO WORK ON THE SALARIES, BENEFITS.

WITH THAT SAID THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION THAT IS BUSINESS RELATED.

WE LOST TWO OF YOU OUR RETIREES LONG-TERM DEPUTIES THE FIRST GENE ASH ON THE 23RD. HE WAS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SERVICE COMMUNITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS MOST KNOWN IN THE MSD AS THE TRAFFIC GUY. THEN THE CHIEF OF STAFF BOBBY PORTER. THEY KNOW HE WAS A REG DENIED.

>> WE WILL HONOR GENE ASH. ARRANGEMENTS ARE MADE FOR CHIEF

PORTER AND SOMETIME IN MARCH. >>> GOOD MORNING.

>> , I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU ALL KNOW OF FOR THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST NUMBER 17 IS WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD'S PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER FEDERAL SAFER GRANT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO HIR 24 FIREFIGHTERS AND THAT IS VALUED AT 5 MILLION.

WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU IF WE ARE AWARDED FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL. I WANTED -- THAT'S A GOOD NEWS

[Clerk of Court's Report]

STORY. >>> NOW FROM THE CLERK OF THE COURT. AND HE HAS A CONFLICT.

WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE MARK MINOR HERE A FORMER COMMISSIONER. A GOOD GUY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD MORNING, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR CLERK OF COURTS.

THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS WARNING RESIDENTS A JURY SCAM RESIDENTS ARE CONTACTED BY PHONE FROM A PERSON CLAIMING TO BE LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE CALLER SAYS THEY MISSED JURY DUTY. THERE IS A WARRANT FOR THEIR ARREST AND PAY A FINE. THE CLERK SPOKE WITH THE NEW RESIDENT WHO HAD FALLEN VICTIM NOT SCAM.

HE DID PAY HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS BEFORE HE CONTACTED OUR OFFICE TO VERIFY IT WAS A SCAM. A RESIDENT HAD THE SAME INFORMATION SCAM THAT SAME VIA TEXT MESSAGE.

WE NOTIFIED THE MEDIA WE PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA BUT THEY ARE INSID OUS THEY ARE HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL HAS IDENTIFIED CITE USE, DUVAL LAKE AND POLK AS HAVING THE PREVALENCE. WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO REMEMBER THAT WE DON'T CALL AND COLLECT MONEY OVER THE PHONE.

IF SOMEONE MISSES JURY DUTY. THEY WILL GET AN OFFICIAL LETTER THROUGH THE POSTAL SERVICE.

IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS THEY CAN GO TO THE WEB SITE AT ST.

JOHNS AND FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU,

[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

MARK. APPRECIATE IT.

>>> OKAY NOW WE'RE READY TO GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE DO SEVERAL THINGS FIRST IF ANYONE HAS ANY WITHDRAWAL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. OR DELETION.

ANY FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> NONE.

>> ECONOMIC WHITEHURST? >> NONE.

>> WALLED LAKE, NONE. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> NONE. >> SO THE NEXT THING WE DO ABOUT THE WITH NO DELETIONS WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS FOR ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AND AND IT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT LATER IN THE DAY AND WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS COMING UP NEXT.

THIS IS ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE COMMENT AGENDA.

WE WILL START. >> GOOD MORNING; THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION ON THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

EXCELLENT JOB. CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO NUMBER

12. >> NAME AND DRESS.

>> ED SLAVIN. CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ITEM NUMBER 12 THE BANK OF AMERICA CONTRACT.

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I'M WONDER COG THAT BE POSTPONED AND ADD IN AN ATM FOR THE AMPHITHEATER. AN ISSUE I HAVE BEEN RAISING TEN YEARS AND THE PRIOR ATTORNEY WAS TRYING TO NEGOTIATE AT ONE STAGE WITH BANK OF COMERICA TO PROVIDE FOR AN ATM THEY THEATER. WE HAVE A 600 MILLION-DOLLAR BANK ACCOUNT WITH BANK OF AMERICA.

WE NEED SKILLS ADD OBTAIN THAT AND COOBTAIN THAT.

THE FARMER'S MARKET AND THEY NEED CASH, THEY GO TO THE MACHINE AND THEY ARE CHARGED. THAT'S NOT RIGHT THE HISTORY OF THE ATMS IN THE LOCATION IS INTRIGUING I DID SOME OPEN RECORDS REQUEST THEY HAD ATMS THERE WITHOUT A LEASE AGREEMENT, WITHOUT A CONTRACTMENT THEY APPEARED.

AND THERE WAS $20,000 A YEAR BEING PUT INTO THE COVERS ON THE ATM. AND WE NEED TO REGULARIZE THE ATM THERE MAKE IT LIKE ANY OTHER IN THE COUNTY WHERE YOU HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT ARE YOU NOT CHARGED $2.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS THAT HAS THE ATM THERE.

THEY DON'T DESERVE IT. THEY CAN DO THE JOB.

I TALKED TO THE EXECUTIVE AS FEW YEARS AGO AND I THINK THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT. IF WE CAN PULL THIS FOR NOW OR AT LEAST ASK LEARNED COUNSEL AND THE ADMINISTRATOR TO REACH OUT TO BANK OF AMERICA AND SAY, LOOK, PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO AN ATM IN THE AMPHITHEATER. WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU PROVIDE IT SINCE ARE YOU THE PREFERRED BANK.

THEY HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS. THAT WILL BE DOABLE AND A BENEFIT TO EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY, PARTICULARLY THOSE VENDORS AT THE FARMER'S MARKET. ONE FROM OUT OF TOWN IS HERE THEY GO TO THE ATM AND DISCOURAGED.

IT IS BAD FOR BUSINESS. I MEAN IT IS BAD FOR THOSE FAMILIES AND 50 OR SO VENDOR WE CAN RESOLVE THAT.

I THINK A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS AND E-MAILS.

IF YOU REACH OUT TO THE STAFF NOW OR LATER AND SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ATM AT THE AMPHITHEATER BE A BANK OF AMERICA THEATER AND NOT ONE THAT RIPS US OFF. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >>> GOOD MORNING.

>> DJ KALADI. NUMBER 6 WAS NUMBER 4 AT THE JANUARY 18, 2022 BCC. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A WORKSHOP ABOUT ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS BEFORE THIS ITEM SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL A WORKSHOP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CAN WE ZOOM IN MAYBE? WHERE ARE WE.

INFORMATION INCLUDED AT THE BCC ON JANUARY STATES THAT, QUOTE, BOTH THE TOMS ROAD RIGHT OF WAY AND 208 REALIGNMENT RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE BUILDING PER SUBMITS FOR THE UNITS. WHY WAS THIS CHANGED FOR TODAY. THAT'S A DEVELOPER AND A TAXPAYER'S BENEFIT FROM THE CHANGE.

WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS OR HAS THE DEVELOPER PAID THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE THE COUNTY ROADS AFFECTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE DEVELOPERS. WILL THE TAXPAYERS OR THE ORLANDO DEVELOPER PAY FOR INCREASES IN COSTS? THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT BUT IF THIS GOES THROUGH TODAY.

THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR INCREASES IN COSTS WHEN THEY DO THIS OVER THERE. SO, MY LAST REQUEST IS PULL THIS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PLACE ON THE REGULAR SAID

SO THE CAN ANSWER THESE. >> THANK YOU.

>>> THANK YOU. >>> ANYONE ON THE AGENDA SEEING

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

NONE WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

, IS THERE A MOTION? >> YES, A SECOND?

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA VOTE.

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

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>> IT IS APPROACHED. NOW TO THE REGULAR AGENDA AS WE DISCUSSED THE REGULAR AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS HERE ON NUMBER 10 THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD THAT IS NUMBER 10 THAT MAY NOT COME UP UNTIL AFTER LUNCH. THEY WERE HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 10 UP TO 1 A ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

IF WE DO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE PEOPLE AND GET BACK TO WORK. I WILL RECOMMEND MOVING 10 UP TO WHAT WILL BE 1 A. WE'LL TAKE IT UP AND THEN GO TO ITEM 1 WHICH IS THE WINDING OAKS PROJECT W THAT SAID THAT

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

WOULD BE MY MOTION. I WILL -- I GUESS I MADE A MOTION FOR THAT AND A SECOND. I'LL MOVE 10 TO 1 A.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.

>> A MOTION AND THAT'S AS AMENDED, SECONDED BY WHITEHURST. WE WITH VOTE ON THAT.

YES. LET'S VOTE ON THE REGULAR.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> I THINK THAT'S UP NOW.

[10. Consider appointments to the West Augustine Nuisance Abatement Board. The Board of County Commissioners authorized the creation of the West Augustine Nuisance Abatement Board (WANAB) in 2011, to hear and deliberate unabated public nuisances within the West Augustine area. This board heard and addressed several unabated nuisances following its creation but became inactive by 2016 and all members' terms expired by mid-2016. This item is to re-instate the board and its activity by appointing new members. Per Ordinance 2014-29, the WANAB consists of five members and two alternates. All seven positions were advertised during the month of December 2021. Seven applications in total have been received. Please find for your review and consideration, a recommendation letter from the West Augustine CRA Steering Committee and the seven applications: Philip Brown (Dist. 3), Charles Ellis (Dist. 3), Dr. Margaret Rickerson (Dist. 3), Annie Mae Tucker (Dist 5), Gwen Nichols (Dist. 3), Doretha Smith (Dist. 3) and James Allen, Jr. (Dist. 3). The below suggested motions reflect the recommendations of the West Augustine CRA Steering Committee and staggered terms in order to keep continuity on the board in the future. ]

DO YOU VOTE UP OR DOWN. NOW WE'RE READY TO TAKE UP 1 A

INSURANCE ABATEMENT BOARD. >>> GOOD MORNING.

>> AND THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY COMMISSIONERS.

ITEM PREVIOUSLY IS 1 A IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE WEST AUGUSTINE NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.

THIS BOARD WAS ORIGINALLY FOUNDED IN 2011.

THERE WERE SEVERAL NUISANCES THAT WERE HEARD BY THE BOARD.

UP UNTIL ABOUT 2015 BY 2016 THE DETERMINES WERE ALLOWED TO EXPIRE. AND THERE WAS NO ACTIVITY ON THE BOARD OR INSURANCES THAT WERE BEING WITHIN THE WEST AUGUSTINE AREA. SO.

I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO GET THIS REINSTATED THERE ARE SOME UNABATED NUISANCES THAT THE SHERIFF WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH DEPARTMENT ON.

AND WE DID ADVISE THOSE WITHIN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER AND WE DID RECEIVE 7 APPLICATIONS. THEY ARE MR. PHILLIP BROWN.

MR. CHARLES ELLIS. DR. MARGARET RICKERSON.

MISS ANNIE MAY TUCKER. GWEN NICHOLS.

DOROTHY SMITH AND JAMES ALLEN, JUNIOR.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE TODAY BUT FOR MISS TUCK SER NOT ABLE TO BE HERE DUE TO CURRENT HEALTH.

SHE IS WORKING ON RECOVERY. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I SAW MR. ELLIS HERE. WE HAVE CAPTAIN BOBBY DEAN.

HE WILL BE THE ONE MOST CLOSELY WORKING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THE INSURANCES, I WILL SAY THE MOTION RECOMMENDED TO YOU ARE INDIVIDUAL HOWEVER IF YOU SEE IT FIT AND YOU WANT TO YOU ARE ABLE TO DO IT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU ON YOUR COVER SHEET CAN YOU DO THAT. I WILL STATE THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE TERM BUT THEY ARE STATED ON THE MOTIONS LISTED ON THE COVER SHEET AND WE FOLLOW THAT.

SO THAT'S THE BASICS OF THE ITEM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

OF ANY MEMBERS WISH TO SPEAK. >> GOOD MORNING.

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION EACH OF YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN HELPING ME GET THIS I THINK I SAID THAT THE NEED OF THE BOARD AND GLAD TO HAVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WILL BE IN THE BOARD. AND THERE IN THE ROOM HERE TODAY AND THESE ARE RESIDENTS WHO CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO SEE US IMPROVING, THEY ARE SUPPORTED TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL T IS OUR TIME AND PUT THE WORK IN.

AND I CALL THE MAYOR OF WEST AUGUSTINE ROBIN NEVINS HE IS GONE BUT WE PUT A LOT OF WORK AND TIME IN.

I WANT TO THINK FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU. WE SEE GREAT VISION.

THANK YOU FOR SEEING IT WITH US AS WE MOVE TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

IF MY PLEASE STAND UP IN THE AUDIENCE.

IT TAKE AS VILLAGE TO MAKE THE COMMUNITIES BETTER AND THE COMMISSION ARE YOU WELL ON YOUR WAY BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN AND ADD MOVING ON TO THE STOP OF THE AGENDA. YOU SEEING GREAT THINGS AND PLEASE COME THROUGH, WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> I DIDN'T WANT TO STOP YOU. >> ARE YOU ON A ROLE.

>> DUALA WILLAS. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT? >> YES, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING, I'M THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE I'M OVER THE CENTRAL REGION THAT INCLUDES THE AREA.

AND FIRST AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE MOTION THAT WE'RE LINING BEFORE YOU.

AND GIVES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE CRA I WAS CHARSED HERE. AND ON THE MATTER.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN SEER ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE WEST AUGUSTINE NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD. WE ARE MAKE A MOTION I WILL MAKE A MOTION. ADD THE AGENDA FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. , WE A MOTION.

YOU MAY HAVE TO KEEP IT DOWN. AND I WANT TO SAY WE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING THEM ON THE BOARD.

SO HATS OFF TO THEM IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM HEARING AND

[1. Public Hearing * PUD21-07 Winding Oaks. PUD 2021-07 Winding Oaks, a request to rezone approximately 217.36 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow for a maximum 279 single family residential units, specifically located at the north side of SR 207, east of Allen Nease Road. The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended approval with a vote of 6-0 at its December 16, 2021 meeting.]

DELIBERATING ON THE UNABATED NUISANCES.

NOW TO ITEM 1. , WE WILL OPEN IT UP THE WINDING OAKS PUD. MISS ACEVEDO.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL.

, WE HAVE TO DO OUR DISCLOSURES FOR OUR EX PARTE.

COMMISSIONER ARNOLD? >> THANK YOU.

>> ON MONDAY JANUARY 24TH AT NOON I THAT WAS THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS THE LAY OFF IMPACT AND DEVELOPERS OF FUNDING THE FUTURE FIRE AND SHERIFF'S STATION DOWN THE ROAD.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> AND. >> ON THURSDAY THE 27TH AT 10 A.M. I MEAT WITH SHANNON ACEVEDO.

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DUDLEY. SWITZERLAND AND MAX GARCIA AND REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT CHANGES THERE FROM THE PREVIOUS ONES AND THE FIRE STATION CHANGE AND THAT'S NOT ACCESSING THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR I SPOKE ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 20TH AT 1 P.M. WITH SHANNON ACEVEDO AND WE SPOKE ABOUT APPLICANTS WILLING TO OFFER FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND STRUCTURES AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS OVERALL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE CHANGES AFTER THE IDEA WAS LAST HEARD.

>> FOR ME I HAD A MEETING ON JAH AT 3:30 WITH MISS ACEVEDO, JUSTIN DUDLEY. MAX GARCIA AND STAFF.

WE DISCUSSED MANY OF THE SAME POINTS INGRESS, EGRESS.

THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND THE PROPERTY THEY WILL KEEP IN THE CONSERVATION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

BEFORE WE START I WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP WHEN THE COMMISSIONER DEAN COMES BACK WE'LL HAVE TO LET HIM DISCLOSE HIS EXPARTIY U THE -- EX PARTE.

>> AND SHANNON ACEVEDO WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP FOR THE RECORD. TODAY, I HAVE WITH ME JUSTIN DUDLEY OF PULTE AND CHRIS BUTTERMORE AND ENGINEERING WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN AND OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.

>> JUST BEING A LITTLE, WE HAVE ENOUGH TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES

THIS MORNING. >> THANK YOU.

SO, JUST I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. BUT I DID WANT TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECT BACKGROUND AND HISTORY HERE BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 207, ALONGSIDE ALLEN NEASE ROAD FROM MOUNT BOULEVARD.

WE'LL JUST MAKE EYE CONTACT SINCE IT MAY BE THE BATTERY IS LOW HERE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A ROTOR THAT'S IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUND OR BOUNDARY NEXT TO MIXED USE TO THE EAST.

, WE ARE IN CURRENTLY IN THE OPEN RURAL ZONING DISTRICT YOU CAN SEE IT TO THE SOUTH THERE AS WELL AND MIXED USE TO THE EAST. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS WINDING OAKS, THIS IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT THE LAST TIME THE BOARD SAW THIS IN HEARING WAS FOR LAND USE AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE. WE'RE LOOKING AT 279 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON 217 GROSS ACRES.

AND THIS PROJECT PROPOSES SIGNIFICANT PRESERVATION OF ECOLOGICAL SYSTEMS ON THE SITE.

RECREATIONAL CONNECTION TO TRAILS, PRESERVATION OF PARK AREA THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NEW SINCE YOU HAVE SEEN IT IS CONSTRUCTION OF A RECLAIMED WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN THAT IS PART OF THE GOAL TO PROVIDE THE SUSTAINABLE WATER AND MONETARY DONATION OF $750,000 TO HELP FUND THE FIRE AND SHERIFF FACILITIES. AND PART OF THE MOTIVATION OF THE DONATION IS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT WINDING OAKS CAN HAVE A HIGHER ISO RATING THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS ON THEIR INSURANCE AND IN FACT OF OUR PRELIMINARY RESEARCH WE FIND IT IS $400 OF SAVINGS PER YEAR TO, I WOULD IMAGINE IT IS SIMILAR FOR OTHER RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF THE 5-MILE FIRE RADIUS. AND THE IDEA HERE IS JUST TO CLOSE THE GAP ON THE TIMING. WE SECTIONS THERE IS FUNDING FOR ENGINEERING OF THE FIRE SHERIFF COMBINATION THAT IS PLANNED NOW. AND WE HOPE IT WILL SPEARHEED TO SHORTEN THE TIMEFRAME OF CONSTRUCTION AND IF YOU WANT WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST TO LET YOU.

>> THIS IS A GOOD STOPPING POINT.

MR. CHAIRMAN WE DID OUR EX PARTE CLOSURES, I WAS GOING TO ADD IT ON ITEM 1. ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 27TH, AT

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2:30, I MET WITH SHANNON, I STRUGGLE WITH IT, ACEVEDO.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND JUSTIN DUDLEY AND MAX GARCIA TO DISCUSS ALL OF THE ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT, PARTICULARLY TRACK AND SOME WETLANDS SCHEDULE.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

TO GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PROJECT.

THE WINDING OAKS AS A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, ALTHOUGH UNDER DIFFERENT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE ST. JOHNS IN 2016 AND I BELIEVE WAS, WENT MADE IT TO THE BOARD HEARING IN 2018.

AT THE TIME IT WAS DENIED. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT TRENDS STILL ENTITLEMENTS ON THE BOOKS FOR STATE ROAD 207 CORRIDOR WE'RE FINISHING OUT AND AT TH AT THE TIME THERE WAS A QUESTION OF THE WHERE THE FIRE STATION WOULD BE. THE PROPOSAL WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND SOME DEBATE OVER IF THAT WAS THE BEST LOCATION.

COMING BACK WE ROPED A LAND USE AMENDMENT TO WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT LIMITS IT TO UNITS.

SOME OF THE CONVERSATION DURING THE BOARD HEARING WAS THAT PERHAPS THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH STRAIN AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT FUNDING FOR THE FIRE STATION WHICH BROUGHT US TO THE NEW SOLUTION OF HAVING RATHER THAN A LOCATION SINCE THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT USING THE DEVELOPMENT AREA AS A FUTE SITING AND THAT IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN FASTER. SO WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR A PUD SUBMITTAL. WE LISTENED TO THE CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD AND ALSO FROM SOME OF THE FEED BACK WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

WE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO YOU TODAY IS MUCH SCALED DOWN VERSION FROM THAT INITIAL 360 UNITS AND IN FACT WE WOULD BE REDUCING TO 279 UNITS STAYING WITHIN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN TERMS OF SCALE FOR THE AREA. WE ARE LOOKING AT RENEWING THE ACCESS FROM VERMONT BOWLED. THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY. AS I MENTIONED BECAUSE OF THE DIRECTION AND THE FIRE STATION PLACEMENT A DONATION THAT WILL BRING THAT TO FRUITION QUICKER THAT WILL HELP SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THIS PROJECT AND THEN AS WELL AS FOR THOSE WHO HAD THE -- WERE PART OF THE BOARD FROM THE PREVIOUS LAND USE DESIGNATION YOU REMEMBERED LOTS THAT CAME ALONG AND THE FINGER WE HAVE REMOVED THOSE. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE DENSITY BONUSS PRESERVATION AND OVER 100 ACRES ARE TO BE PROPOSED. AS WELL AS UP LANDS AND THEY ARE BEING PUT INTO CONSERVATION 17.34 UP LANDS ADJACENT TO WETLANDS THE MAIN ACCESS OFF 207.

AND TO SOLVE THE SECONDARY ACCESS.

WE REALIZE THAT THE COMMUNITY OF VERMONT HEIGHTS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECONDARY TRAFFIC IMPACTS OF VERMONT BOULEVARD SO WE HAVE REMOVED THAT AS A REGULAR ACCESS AND HOWEVER WE'RE BUILDING A TURN AROUND AND A GATE SO THAT THERE WILL BE EMERGENCY ACCESS FOR THE COUNTY.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT WILL BE LIKE AND A SECONDARY AND THE COUNTY'S ENVIRONMENTS. LOOKING AT THE LOW IMPACT OF THIS. THIS IS A GREAT EXHIBIT THAT DEMONSTRATES THIS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE THOSE ARE WETLANDS AND THE ONLY IMPACT AND A SECTION.

AND BRING IT OVER AND REMAIN ON 207 AND VERMONT BOULEVARD AND A COUPLE OF ISOLATED POCKETS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

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, WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONNECTION WITH A RAILS TO TRAILS THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS OF WINDING OAKS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC WHO MAY BE TRAVELING ALONG THE RAILS TO TRAILS AND WITH THIS CONNECTION THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE TO FOUR ACRES OF THE AREA IN THE CENTER LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

HERE YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT IS SPLIT OUT BETTER.

VERY CENTRALLY LOCATED AND BE A NICE FLOW AND NICE CENTRAL NATIONAL AMENITY TO THE PROJECT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE

THAT TRAIL SYSTEM CONNECTED. >> OVER 7 ACRES.

ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION THAT HAS TRANSPIRED SINCE THE LAST HEARING WITH WINDING OAKS THE DIRECTION OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT INCORPORATING A 16-INCH REUSED TRANSMISSION MAIN IN THE AREA IN PURPOSE THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP.

THIS IS TO FURTHER THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ACTIVITY DISTRICT'S REGIONAL GOALS TO SUPPLY BOTH RECLAIMED WATER AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S GOING TO BE POTENTIAL IN THE AREA IS A FORCE MAIN TRANSMISSION LINE FOR THE SAME KIND OF SUBREGIONAL GOAL OF THE UTILITY DISTRICT.

AND HERE YOU CAN SEE I WANTED TO SHOW THIS AND WHERE THE ROAD AS SOON AS AREA TO FIRE SERVICES IS TODAY.

AND THEY WILL NOT BE SERVICED BUT HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FREE UP THE CAPACITY OF THE COUNTY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN RESPOND. $750,000 DONATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE AND I JUST DID WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS IS NOT SEEKING IMPACT FEE CREDITS DUT IT IS A DONATION AND TO THE FIRST PLATTED LOT IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY RIGHT AWAY. YOU CAN SEE THE RADIUS IN PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU CLICK ONCE MORE THAT JUST SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT BENEFIT FROM IT.

>>> MOVING ON TO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY ONLY TWO ADVERSE ROAD LINKS THAT ARE HERE. YOU WILL SEE THE RED, THERE IT IS. IF YOU CAN GO BACK TWO SEGMENTS. THEY EXIST TODAY.

SO THE ANTICIPATED MITIGATION AND IMPACT FEES WOULD FUND FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND OF THE AREAS WITHIN THIS STATE ROAD 207 CORRIDOR IN THE AREAS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

NOW GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL BE SPENT ON. IT SOMETHING I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE 312 EXTENSION IS ALREADY FUNDED AND AS I UNDERSTAND WILL START CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST MILE IN THE SUMMER.

THIS SUMMER OF 2022. JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE FUNDS COULD BE SPENT FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND STATE ROAD OR PERHAPS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE I-95 STATE ROAD 207 INTERCHANGE.

IN TERMS OF SCHOOL CAPACITY WE HAVE BEEN IN CORRESPONDENCE WITH ST. JOHNS. I'M WAIT FOG AR UPDATED LETTER AS OF OUR LAST CORRESPONDENCE THERE IS CAPACITY IN THE PROJECT AND GENERATION APPROXIMATELY 70 STUDENTS BASED ON THEIR GENERATION CALCULATIONS.

IN SUMMARY WE BELIEVE THE PUD IS COMBATABLE WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE NONE OF THE ROADS ARE CREATING ADVERSE IMPACTS.

NO NEW SEGMENTS ARE ADVERSARY IMPACTED.

AND THERE IS CAPACITY. EVERYTHING IS IN LINE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THERE ARE PUBLIC BENEFITS LIKE THE 750750,000 CONTRIBUTION AND THE CONNECTION OF THE RAILS TO TRAILS AND IT IS IMPROVEMENTS.

I WANTED TO GIVE MR. DUDLEY A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING

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REGARDING THE PROJECT. , THANK YOU.

JUSTIN DUDLEY. AND THE APPLICANT I WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS LIMITED BUT FOLLOW UP ON A FEW POINTS I GOT LOST OVER THE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. I WAS STIRRED FOLLOWING LAST TUESDAY'S WORKSHOP ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE FOUND ST. JOHNS A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

THAT'S BASED ON THE REF GOOD DECISIONS AND DISCERNMENT OF THE BOARD AND THE FORMER BOARDS ALONG WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT TEAM. AS A NATIVE AND LOCAL, I VALUE THE EQUITY THAT YOU ARE BRINGING TO MY PROPERTY AND FOR THE NEWCOMERS, THEY HAVE COMPLIMENTED YOU WITH DECIDING ACROSS THE U.S. AND FLORIDA WITH MAKING ST. JOHNS THEIR HOME. THE GOAL IS CONSTRUCT COMMUNITIES I WOULD HAVE PROUD TO HAVE MY FAMILY RAISE A FAMILY IN AND THE CONSULT JANETS, PROFESSIONALS WE HIRE HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE LOCATIONS WIT INTEREST IN HOW THEY DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE. THE PROJECT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STATEMENTS T IS EVIDENCE HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.

AS YOU SAW, THE TIME LINE SPANNING SIX YEARS THIS HAS BEEN TOEDFIED THE GOALS POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE PLAN. FIRE SERVICES WERE A CONCERN AND NOT YET A VIABLE FUTURE SOLUTION FOR A FIRE STATION.

SINCE 2019 THE CHIEF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH EMERGENCY SERVICE CONSULTANTS INTERNATIONAL TO ASSESS THE NEEDS FOR THE AREA AND NOTED THIS AREA HAS A NECESSITY MOVING INTO THE 2019-2020 BUDGETS. AND WE SPOKE WITH RESIDENTS AND SAID THEY WERE PLANNING TO ADD A STATION IN FIVE YEARS.

THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO. NOW, WE SEE THE RFPS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WE'RE COMING ALONGSIDE YOU WITH FUNDING THAT IS FOUR TIMES THE IMPACT FEE. IN ADDITION TO THE IMPACT FEE.

AND THE COMP PLAN SOUGHT WAS TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE OF THE LAND BUT THE BOARD PUSHED BACK OVER CONCERNS AND TRAFFIC SUCH THAT THE PROJECT PROPOSED TODAY HAS 30% LESS DENSITY THAN PRESENTED. NOW THE PROJECT HAS BEEN SIZE THAT WE DO NOT CREATE ONE IMPACTED ROADWAY SEGMENT BUT WE GENERATE MORE THAN $2.6 MILLION IN FEES.

AND FURTHER, WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO REMOVE ANY COMMUTER CONNECTION BASED ON THE FEED BACK FROM HEARINGS.

THIS IS HOW THE SYSTEM IS TO WORK.

ENVIRONMENTALLY WE'RE PRESERVING 15% OF THE UP LANDS. 98.3% OF THE WETLANDS AND THE EXTERIOR AND THE TWO TIMES THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN CONCENTRATED TO THE AREAS OF THE WETTER SOILS AND FINE SANDS.

NO BIRDS, EAGLES ARE ANTICIPATE -- ANTICIPATED TO BE AFFECTED AND. OPEN SPACE IS NOW 58% OF THE SITE. GOOD GROWTH COMPLEMENTS GOOD GROWTH. THE NEAREST ADVERSE LINKS ARE FOUR MILES FROM THE PROJECT. I'LL JUST SHOW YOU AN EXHIBIT HERE REGARDING THE RASK. AS,FROM THE EXHIBIT THE COUNTY THE EXTEND OF 312 AND THE BOULEVARD SHOULD ELIMINATE THE SEGMENT OF CONGESTION THAT IS LIKELY CAUSING BACK ROAD CON QUESTION AND ROUTES. AND MORE SIGNIFICANT IS THE CENTER GOING ON 207 AND THIS WIS PUT THE TRAFFIC FROM OF THE EXISTING 2100 RESIDENTS AND TO REMAIN WEST WHERE THE LINK AND THE GROCERY. AND BEYOND THE LINKS AND AWAY FROM THE PROJECT AND THE RES DENTS.

AND RESIDENTS TRAVEL SIX AND A HALF MILES THROUGH THE LINKS AND A PROPERTY AT I-95 AND HEALTH SERVICES WITHIN 1.9 MILES OF THIS TO SERVICE US AS WELL AS THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT AS DO YOU SEE FIT.

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THANK YOU AGAIN. , WE WILL OPEN IT UP ON NUMBER 1 THE WINDING OAKS PUD. IF YOU WISH TO MAKE EXTENT YOU

HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> LARRY BASS SET, VERMONT BOWLED. CAN'T START THE CLOCK.

, HOW CAN WE THANK YOU? >> RIGHT AFTER THE COMMISSIONERS RESIGNED ON THE SECOND OF NOVEMBER, THE BOARD, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER CHANGED THE OWNERSHIP OF VERMONT BOULEVARD. THEY SHOWED IT WAS IN FRONT OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING.

THAT'S ON THE 5TH OF NOVEMBER.

THIS IS THE 6TH OF NOVEMBER. THEY CHANGED IT AGAIN SHOWING IT AT ONE PORTION. THEN ON THE NINTH WHEN I WENT THERE THEY SAID THAT THE DEAD STATED THE CHANGE AND NOT ONE PORTION TO SAINT ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

HERE IS THE DEED HERE I WAS GIVEN.

AND IT'S NOT THE RIGHT DEED. HERE IS THE CORRECTED DEED RIGHT HERE. 319, 333 HE DID GIVE A STRIP OF LAND AND SAID THE NORTHWEST PROJECTION IS SHOWN IN VERMONT HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION. HERE IS THE WARRANTY DEED WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT WAS DEED 319-333 THIS IS 227, PAGE 94 I GOT THAT FROM THE COUNTY TO GIVE HIM ACCESS OFF A LAND FIELD THAT DEAD ENDED ON THE PROPERTY.

IT NEVER TOUCHED VERMONT BOULEVARD.

HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBDIVISION.

VERMONT BOULEVARD. AND HERE IS THE CLOSEUP OF IT.

THERE IS A RAILROAD THAT GOES INTO PROPERTY.

IT NEVER TOUCHED VERMONT BOWLED.

RIGHT THERE IS FROM THE MINUTES FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY ON AUGUSTH , 1976 THANKING HIM FOR THE ROADS INTO TILLMAN RIDGE LAND.

HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH VERMONT BOULEVARD.

THE PROBLEM IS WHEN HE SOLD THE PROPERTY IN 1994, HERE IS THE DEEDS FROM IT. PAGE 227-94 WAS ELIMINATED OUT OF THE SAIL. IT WAS NOT IN THE SALE OF IT.

THERE IS NO DEED. VERMONT HEIGHTS HAS A RIGHT OF WAY SURROUNDING ALL AND EVERY ROAD AND ALL THE SURROUNDING OF VERMONT HEIGHTS IS ASSESSED TO VERMONT HEIGHTS RESIDENTS.

EVEN VERMONT BOULEVARD DEVELOPED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE TRACK. WE HAD VERMONT HEIGHTS TERMINAL

THERE. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU EXTRA TIME I KNOW THAT IS THE THREE MINUTES NOW.

BE THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, THAT'S NOTED. ANYONE FOR ITEM NUMBER 1? , ED SLAVIN. WE VOTE THIS DUNE IT IS OPEN RURAL. STOP CONVERTING OPEN RURAL TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND LEAVE IT BE.

I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS COMPANY PULTE WAS FINED 13700 BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA LAST YEAR.

THEY WERE CONVICTED OF DESTROYING 22 GOPHER TORTOISE BURROWS. THEY ARE A LAW BREAKER.

AND WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE IS NOT WORTHY OF BELIEF. THIS IS AN IRRESPONSIBLE COMPANY. UNJUST STEWARD OF THE ENVIRONMENT. OUR STAFF USED TO COME UP TO THE PODIUMS AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS ABOUT DEVELOPER

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PROPOSALS NOW YOU ONLY HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPERS SINCE WE GOT A NEW ADMINISTRATOR, WHY IS THAT? HILLSBOROUGH HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION COMMISSION. THEY HAVE SINCE 1967.

WHEN WE CHANGED OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT AS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER SUGGESTED AFTER HE WE NEED AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS COMMISSIONER SECOND TO NONE USING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS A MODEL. THE STAFF NEEDS TO BE EMPOWERED TO TELL YOU WHAT THE E.P.A. SAYS ABOUT COMPANIES THAT WANT SPECIAL ZONING PRIVILEGES. STAFF NEEDS TO BE EMPOWERED TO TELL YOU WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES SECTION OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS FOUND. DID THE STAFF TELL YOU ABOUT CLEAN WATER VIOLATIONS. DID THE STAFF TELL YOU ABOUT THE BURROWS IN MARION COUNTY. THE STAFF IS DEVELOPER DRIVEN AND OTHER DIRECTED. ALL OF YOU BUT FOR THE Y NEW COMMISSIONER RECEIVED CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DEVELOPERS AND OPEN YOUR EYES. YOU HEARD FROM 67 WITNESSES LAST WEEK AT THE GROVE MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP.

THERE IS NOBODY THAT WANTS TO CONVERT ANY MORE OPEN RURAL INTO PUDS. I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU THAT CATHY BROWN LONG TIME HEAD OF THE COUNCIL ON AGING, FORMER MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, CATHY BROWN HAS A NAME FOR PUD A WAY OF GETTING AROUND ZONING.

THERE IS NO REASON TO APPROVE THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE ENOUGH HOMES NOW APPROVED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

TO LAST INTO THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE OF ANYONE NOW INDEED.

WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANY MORE. FASTER THAN A SPEEDING DUMP TRUCK WHAT WE LOVE IS BEING DESTROYED.

I WAS CROSSING FROM GEORGIA INTO FLORIDA WITH THE LATE CHIEF JUDGE AND WIDENING 95 HE LOOKS OVER AT ME HE SAYS IF YOU HAD A SEWAGE PIPE DUMPING IN YOUR BACKYARD WOULD YOU MAKE IT BIGGER? NO.

VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSAL AND NO FROM NOW ON ON EVERY PROPOSAL TO CONVERT OPEN RURAL TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND VOTE NO AND SABE THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE TORTOISES THAT WERE KILL IN MARION COUNTY.

THANK YOU. >>> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. FISHER? YES, SIR. , THANK YOU, WE IN FISHER

FLAGLER. >> WE HAVE TO STOP GETTING RID OF THE RURAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES IT IS HEADED WEST ON 207. SOONER OR LATER THE FARMS WILL BE GONE AND THEN WHAT WILL WE DO? , THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO.

>> NAME AND DRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> I'M MELIS LA TURNER AT VERMONT BOWLED.

I EXPECT BUILDING A PUD IT WILL IMPACT VERMONT HEIGHTS AND THERE ARE SO MANY CONCERNS TO TALK ABOUT I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES. I AGREE GOPHER TORTOISE I'M ADJACENT TO THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, I HAVE THE LONGEST PORTION THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND EVERYTHING RUNS IN AND OUT OF MY YARD, INCLUDING THE TORTOISE, I HAVE LOTS OF THOSE HOLES THERE BUT OUR PUD AT VERMONT HEIGHTS WAS DEVELOPED IN THE 1920S.

IT HAS NARROW STREETS SOME ARE DIRT.

NO SIDEWALKS. OUR ROADS ARE USED AS A CUT THROUGH FOR TASK, SPEEDING TRAFFIC AND WHEN THE INTERSTATE BAKES UP WE HAVE LITTLE HOPE OF PEACE AND YET TO THIS, TO US THIS IS BIG. VERMONT HEIGHTS IS SMALL.

THEY WILL ADD ABOUT THREE MORE FAMILIES TO THE ROADS.

THE DEVELOPER SAID THERE ARE MANS FOR AN EMERGENCY EXIST BUT WHAT EXACTLY WILL CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY? HOW WILL THE COUNTY ENFORCE THAT TO KEEP THAT GATE CLOSED? WE MAINTAIN THAT ACCORDING TO THE DEED IN 1937, VERMONT HEIGHTS STREETS WERE ONLY DEDICATED ONLY NOT DEEDED.

RESIDENTS MAINTAIN THE STREETS OF VERMONT HEIGHTS AND ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WEB SITE AS YOU SAW FOR THE COUNTY, VERMONT HEIGHTS ARE ASSESSED THE LOT OWNERS AND 100% OWNED BY VERMONT HEIGHTS. AND THE BOULEVARD HAS BEEN USED WITH COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC T IS VERY NARROW ROAD.

AND THEY CONNECTED IT AND ALLEN NEASE SO TRAFFIC CAN CUT THROUGH. IT IS A NIGHTMARE ALREADY.

THE ACTIONS HAVE CAUSED A HAZARDOUS SITUATION ON THE ROAD. OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN RUN OFF THE ROAD, EVEN WALKING TRYING TO GET TO THE BIKE TRAIL.

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BIKING. IN MY CAR I HAVE BEEN RUN OFF THE ROAD. I HAVE HAD TO BACK UP TO LET 18 WHEELERS ON TO THE STREET FULL OF TRASH.

WE'RE SUBJECT TO -- SUBJECT TO THE ROAD KNOWS.

ENGINES, SPEEDING CARS, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO ADD TO THE TRAFFIC WITH 300 MORE RESIDENTS.

NOT TO MENTION THE BEAUTIFUL AREA THAT IS THERE.

THE HAM MOCK THE AREA THE -- EVERYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

OLD FLORIDA L LIFESTYLE IS BEING RUN OVER.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT AS ANOTHER PUD THAT MAINTAINS THAT OLD FLORIDA LOOK AND FEEL. IT IS HARD ENOUGH WITH THE TRAFFIC AT THIS POINT. WE DON'T WANT MORE SURROUNDING US. LIKE I SAID, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS ONE ACCESS POINT ON 207. WHEN WORSE COMES TO WORSE.

THE CARS AND FAMILIES AND HAVING TO DRIVE AROUND ARE STILL GOING TO END UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN THE DIRT ROADS AND STREETS WE CANNOT GET OUT.

>> TALK VERY MUCH. THAT'S THE THREE MINUTES.

IRK THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> BJ KALADI. I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THIS.

THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN AT THE JANUARY 21 BCC GROWTH MANAGEMENT MEETING SOMEONE NOT MR. DUDLEY, SPOKE IN FAVOR OF TAX INCREASES AND HOW OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL. HE DONATION, I BELIEVE.

SHOULD BE $1 MILLION. 750,000.

$1MILLION THEN WE CAN USE THAT TO FIX OUR ROADS THAT ARE HAVE POTHOLES NOT THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS NOT THE PUD BUT THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY. THERE ARE ROADS TAKEN CARE OF.

DON'T PUT THIS IN BEACH DEVELOPMENT.

THE ROADS ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY ARE TELLING YOU THE HOMEHOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS LISTEN TO US, THAT'S WHAT TWO AND A HALF HOURS WERE ABOUT.

LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.

BRINGING IN THE DEEDS, DON'T HAVE TEN MINUTES TO TALK OR 15 MINUTES TO TALK AND HAVE TO WATCH THAT LITTLE CLICK, CLICK, CLICK FOR THREE MINUTE SO WE CAN SAY WHAT WE WANT TO SAY TO LET YOU KNOW HOW THE RESIDENTS ARE AFFECTED BY THE DEVELOPMENTS AND WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE.

SO, DENY THE REQUEST AND LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. , JULIA KELLY, VERMONT BOULEVARD, VERMONT HEIGHTS. AS A RESIDENT THERE I BELIEVE THE WINDING OAKS SUBDIVISION SHOULD BE DENIED.

WHEN VERMONT HEIGHTS WAS CREATED IN THE 191920S AS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE T IS A THOROUGH FARE FOR THOSE ON 13 A AND COUNTY ROAD 214. WE CANNOT HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC NOW. AND BARELY CAN I LEAVE MY HOUSE WITHOUT WAITING FOR CARS TO PASS.

CARS AND SEMIS AND TRASH TRUCKS AND LOG TRUCKS.

WHEN I LEAVE FOR WORK IN THE MORNING TURNING NORTH TOWARD I-95 I MUST WAIT UP TO 10 MINUTES FOR VEHICLES TO GO SPEEDING PAST. THAT WILL BE THE VEHICLES COMING OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION. AS IT IS ON THE GRASS AND THE MUD TO THE BIKE TRAIL BECAUSE OF WALKING ON THE ROAD IS HAZARDOUS. IF YOU ADD 550 CARS TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WILL BE ADDING TO AN ALREADY UNSAFE TRAFFIC SITUATION RIGHT RIPE FOR ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES.

IF YOU DENY THE PETITION TO ALLOW 279 HOUSES AND 550 PERSONAL VEHICLES YOU WILLING TELLING THE RESIDENTS OF VERMONT HEIGHTS YOU CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE. DENY THE REQUEST OR THE 279 HOUSES AND 550 CARS IN THE WINDING OAKS SUBDIVISION.

>> THANK YOU. >>> ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT? , YES, SIR.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> KEVIN KELLY 4709 VERMONT BOWLED, DENY THE SUBDIVISION FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. TRAFFIC ON VERMONT BOWLED AND SR 207 ALL TYPES OF VEHICLES. THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICE AND OTHER VEHICLES THAT IT TAKES TO BUILD WILL ADD TO THE NIGHTMARE OF TRAFFIC THAT EXISTS THERE. THE TRAFFIC CREATED BY THE 279 UNITS WOULD ADD TO AN ALREADY UNSAFE SITUATION IN THE AREA ON

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BOTH SIDES OF SR 207. OUR QUALITYIVE LIFE HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH. OUR SAFETY SHOULD BE ST. JOHNS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. I LIVED IN VERMONT HEIGHTS SINCE 2001. THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON VERMONT BOUL BOULEVARD HAS CREATED AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT. ADDING THE TRAFFIC GENERATOR BY 300 IS A RECIPE FOR MORE ACCIDENTS WITH INJURIES OR WORSE. MY SISTER WAS KILLED AT AN INTERSECTION EXACTLY LIKE SR 207 AND VERMONT.

THE COMMISSIONERS TODAY YOU HAVE THE POWER TO PREVENT THE TRAGEDY BY DENYING THE PROJECT.

PLEASE DENY IT. AS THE OLDEST PLANNED SUBDIVISION IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, ONOF THE VERMONT HEIGHTS ROADWAYS WERE DESIGNED FOR THE TYPES AND AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC THAT WE SEE TODAY. I AM ASKING TO FURTHER DISCUSS AT THE STATE OF FLORIDA SAFETY OFFICE OF TALLAHASSEE.

I'M WAITING I SAID. PLEASE DENY THE WINDING O OAKS SUBDIVISION. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS SPREAD THIN AND NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE ISSUES IN A TIMELY MANNER.

DENY THE PROPOSED WINDING OAKS DEVELOPMENT.

THE RESIDENTS OF WILL RECEIVE NO BENEFIT FROM THE WINDING OAKS DEVELOPMENT JUST MORE UNNECESSARY TRAFFIC.

DENY THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE PUBLIC ON JANUARY 25TH AT YOUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT MEETING, SAVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS VERMONT BOULEVARD RIGHT HERE. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ANY TIME IN THE MORNING WHEN EVERYONE IS GOING TO WORK AND IN THE EVENING WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING HOME T IS .4 OF A MILE LONG YOU SEE THAT COMING THE WRONG WAY THAT'S A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE AND LOOK AT THE SEMIS THERE TO THE LINE THERE.

PUT IT UP HERE AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT IT IS LIKE.

I LIVE THERE. THANK YOU.

>> WOULD YOU PROVIDE THAT PICTURE TO THE COUNTY

ATTORNEY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANYBODY ELSE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.

FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? >> SEEING NONE WE'RE CLOSING

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. >> DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY

COMMENTS? >> , I DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BEEN HERE SO MANY TIMES. THE PICTURE THAT YOU SAW THERE WAS PRESENTED AS WHEN IT BACKED UP AN ALTERNATE ROUTE AND NOT0 DAILY OCCURRENCE. THE PROJECT BEING IT HAS AN ONLY RURAL CURRENT LAND USE IT IS ONE MILE FROM I-95 AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE PROJECT IS EAST.

AND EXISTING ON TO 207 THIS TASK WOULD BE EAST OF THEM AND NOT IMPEDING THEIR COMMUTE IN IN THE MORNING.

THE ADVANTAGE FOR THE PROJECT WILL BE THE UTILITY TRANSMISSION AND THE COUNTY TO ALLOW FOR THE RECLAIM AND THAT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE TO GO UP VERMONT AND DOWN 207 AND ALL WOULD HAVE TO BE OPENED UP WITH CONSTRUCTION AND IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT.

IN THE OPEN RURAL BECAUSE. THERE ARE OTHER USES SUMP AS ADULT FACILITIES, CHILD FACILITIES, CEMETERIES, MOBILE HOMES, THERE ARE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE DONE ON THE PROJECT. 700 L LINEAR FEET ALONG FOR THE ROUGHLY 100 ACRES THAT SIT ON THE PIECE THAT COULD ACCESS THROUGH TO ENGINEERING AND AVOID THE PROCESS OF THE REZONING BUT IN THE REZONING EFFORT WE ARE TAKING AND UTILIZING THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT UTILIZING VERMONT.

SO, IT IS MUST REGARDING THE GOPHER TORTOISES AND COUNTS WITH OTHER STAFF, I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THAT BUT IN MY 19 YEARS WITH THE COMPANY I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE THAT RECORD AGAINST WE WE WILL NOT HOLD THE RECORDS AGAINST EACH OTHER. THE 2 AND MILLION DOLLARS TO IMPACT FEES WHEN THERE ARE NO ADVERSE MAY BE SELECTED TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE COUNTY FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON VERMONT IF NECESSARY. BUT THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE AREA CURRENTLY SAYS THAT VERMONT IS ONLY AT 17.7% CAPACITY.

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THE SECTION FROM THE ENTRANCE TO THE INTERSTATE AT 60 AND 80% OF CAPACITY. SO WE'RE SEEKING A PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT AGAINST OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.

>> I WILL ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS TO MR. DUDLEY' COMMENTS THERE. WE DID, AS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT FROM ATLANTIC GEOLOGICAL, INCLUDE A GOPHER TORTOISE BURROW MAP. WE HAVE SECURED A RELOCATION PERMIT WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE. I WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD, I DIDN'T STRESS IS THAT THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE FIRE STATION IS A COMBINATION SITE SO IN TERMS OF SAFETY THAT IS A BENEFIT TO HAVE A LOCATION FOR BOTH OF THOSE SERVICES SO NEARBY. , BACK TO THE WORD ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS?

>> , WILL THE ROADS BE PRIVATE? THAT'S GOING TO DEFER TO THE BOARD BUT, MR. DUDLEY, HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT.

>> WE DON'T OBJECT TO PRIVATIZING IT.

>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE USES AND HOW MANY CAN YOU BUILD

WITHOUT COMING. >> I WILL LET STAFF ONE PER

ACRE UNDER THE OPEN RURAL? >> GOOD MORNING.

AND THE SENIOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY.

I SPOKE WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT ON THAT QUESTION.

THEY WOULD SUBJECT OUT THE WETLANDS BEFORE CALCULATING THE DENSITY. INDICATING 103 ACRES OF WETLANDS THAT WOULD LEAVE 114 UNITS POSSIBLE.

>> OKAY. THEY ARE ZONING.

>> IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PREVIOUS HEARINGS WE HAVE BEEN A PART OF, TIMING WAS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING OFF ROAD AND OFF WILD WOOD DRIVE.

OTHER HOUSES BEING BUILD, APARTMENTS BEING BUILT, AND THE QUESTION MAY, DOES THAT PUT THE ROAD IMPACT TO ROADS LEADING TO

95 DEVENT? >> NO, SO, THE ONLY ADVERSE IMPACTS THE TWO I MENTIONED EARLIER ARE WITH OR WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. WITH WINDING OAKS THERE ARE NO NEW ADVERSELY AFFECTED ROADS IN THE FOUR-MILE RADIUS.

>> THE TRIPS GENERATED FROM THOSE APPROVED SHOULD BE CALCULATED IN THE BACKGROUND NUMBERS USED.

>> I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT. >> OKAY.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

AND PHONG NGUYEN DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR ST. JOHNS.

TO AGAINST THE QUESTION. AND ALL THE MENTIONED DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU SAID AND THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND AS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS SPREAD SHE HAD T IS PART OF THE CALCULATION THAT WE DOCUMENT THAT IN TERMS OF FOR THE APPROVED TRIPS BUT NOT BUILT IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THAT AND THEY BILL THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WE BUILD THE DATA TO REALIZE THE IMPACT OF THOSE PROJECTS.

SO FOR THIS PROJECT ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. THESE ARE NEW TRIPS.

>> THANK YOU, I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

THAT WAS A PART OF TIMING GET EVERYONE EAST OF 95 BUILDING AS A DISCUSSION WE HAD. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RECLAIMED WATER PIPE, DO YOU KNOW IF YOU USE AS MUCH AS YOU PRODUCE?

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>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

>> THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO USE OR NO MORE OR WE HAVE TO REUSE

EVERYTHING. >> REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE

UTILITY ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. >> THAT WOULD BE NICE.

>> DIRECTIONALLY WE WERE AGREEING TO TAKE THEIR NECESSITY OF RECLAIMED WATER DISTRIBUTION TO SITE BASED ON THE NEW STATUTES THAT NO LONGER ALLOW THEM TO DISCHARGE INTO WETLANDS AND MAYBE THEY CAN CLARIFY FOR ME BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO USE THAT CAPACITY OR TO HELP WITH THE NEEDS OF THE

DEPARTMENT. >> THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES THEY WILL REUSE AND USE UP 100% OF THE WASTE THEY CREATE IN THE

SUBDIVISION. >> THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE TRUE AND CORRECT GOING FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU; THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, JEREMIAH?

>> I DON'T SEE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THEM ABOUT PLANNING. ANY FUTURE PLANS FOR THE FIRE STATION. LAW ENFORCEMENT.

OUT POSTS INDEPENDENT OF THE PROJECT?

>> THE ONE THAT YOU REFERENCE IS THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AT THE COURSE AND STAFF TO START WITH THAT.

THAT'S IN THE PROCESS. I DO NOSE THAT IN THE LONG-TERM PLANS THAT HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN. THERE IS A LOOK AND DO IT AND THE FUTURE BETWEEN THAT STATION AND PROPOSED STATION AND HASTINGS. ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IT WILL BE A JOINT SUBSTATION LIKE THEY HAVE DONE AT STATION 5:11 THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THE PLANS.

THERE IS THE STATION THERE AT THE COURSE AND A POTENTIAL STATION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE BETWEEN THAT STATION AND

LASTINGS. >> DO WE HAVE A COST?

>> WE DON'T. >> AND APPROXIMATELY $8 MILLION AND STATION ESTIMATE COSTS HAVE GONE UP.

WE RECEIVED SOME PROPOSALS BACK FROM THE ARCHITECT THAT WAS NORTH OF $8 MILLION SO THE STAFF HAS GONE BACK AND CUT THINGS IN SQUARE FOOTAGE OUT OF THE FACILITY THAT DOES NOT MATCH THE FACILITY. MY GUESS TO TELL THE BOARD THE COSTS AND QUALIFIERS OF THE COSTS SOMEWHERE AROUND 190 TO 12 MILLION-DOLLAR RANGE. YOU GET OUT 10, 1 5 YEARS FROM

NOW, DOUBLE THE NUMBER. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, STATIONS 5 AND 11 WERE COMBINED IN ON U.S.-1.

THEY WERE 23,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE SHERIFF OPERATION COMMAND POST AND THE COST OF THE PROJECT WAS $6.4 MILLIONS

IN 2019. >> I'M SURE THAT'S GONE UP

QUITE A BIT AT THIS POINT. >> I SUPPOSE SO BUT THE DONATION, IN ADDITION TO THE 1 $186,186,000 IN IMPACT FEES FOR FIRE, WHICH IS TOTAL TO ACCOUNTS FOR MORE THAN THE WEIGHTED PERCENTAGE VERSUS END USERS.

>> AND THAT DONATION NO STRINGS ATTACHED.

YOU ARE NOT LOOKING FOR CREDITS, NO CREDITS.

WE WANT TO PAY IT UP FRONT AT THE TIME OF PLATTING IN FULL TO

THE COUNTY. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER, ONE MORE QUESTION.

YOU HAVE MET WITH THE IS THAT A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY OR.

>> A RIGHT IN AND A RIGHT OUT. IT WILL HAVE A LEFT OUT TOWARD I-95. THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD NOT CONTAIN IS A LEFT IN IF WERE YOU COMING FROM THE DIRECTION OF HASTINGS OUT IT WOULD SUGGEST THERE IS LITTLE TO NO TRAFFIC COMING FROM THAT DIRECTIONIVE IF SOMEONE WAS THEY WOULD HAVE TO PASS THAT COMMUNITY AND APPROACH TO CYPRESS LAKES, MAKE A U-TURN AM COME BACK.

>> AT VERMONT BOULEVARD OR CYPRESS.

>> CONTINUING TO THE INTERSTATE TOWARD THE NEARIST AT CYPRESS LAKES. IF YOU WANTED TO GO.

COME OUT. CANNOT MAKE A LEFT AND GO RIGHT. WHERE WILL YOU MAKE THE U-TURN, LEAVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN YOU TAKE A LEAVED TOWARD 95.

>> THAT BACKS UP OR UNSAFE. I UNDERSTAND YOU SAY 87% CAPACITY THAT'S GREAT. HAVE YOU DRIVEN THE ROAD AT RUSH HOUR AND BACKED UP FOR 3, 4 LIGHT CHANGES?

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>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE. I DRIVE THAT EVERY WEDNESDAY AT 5, 5:30 IT IS PACKED. AND HASTINGS AREA, ALSO.

>> WE'RE USING THE SERVICE VOLUMES PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY FROM 2019. ANOTHER STUDY IS IN PROCESS NOW. WHETHER THOSE GO UP WITH GROWTH OR MORE WORK FROM HOME THAT IS SUBJECT TO SEE.

WE SEE EVIDENCE OF WORKING TRAFFIC NUMBERS WHEN YOU SEE ON THE EXHIBIT I SHOWED THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ON 207 TO THE LEFT OF HOMES AND THE 40% AND THEN THAT SECTION BETWEEN 312 AND HOMES IS BEING 110% OR 120%, WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS.

CLEAR LIVE THE COUNTY USED THAT TO DETERMINE THE EXTENSION OF 312 AND FUNDING THE FIRST MILE TO SOLVE FOR THAT.

SO. THE DATA AND THE REALITY ARE TIE TYING OUT THERE. WE CAN ASSUME IT IS ACCURATE,

TOO. >> I NEVER AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT YOU ARE PUMPING MORE TRAFFIC IN.

AND GETTING TO THE RESTAURANTS AND THE HOSPITAL.

GETTING ANYTHING IS GOING TO BE THROUGH THAT.

>> WHICH IS WHY WE APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S DECISION ON GROWTH IMPROVEMENTS AND USES UP AT 95.

THE COMMERCIAL USES. THE PUBLIC IS THERE AND BRINGING -- THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO BRING THE SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS RATHER THAN HAVING THEM TRAVEL 6, 7 MILES TO THEM CAN ACLEAVATE THE TRAFFIC RATHER THAN SPENDING MORE MONEY TO GROW THE SMALLER LINKS INTO THE GREATER WIDTHS.

BY REDUCING THE DISTANCES OF TRIPS.

WE'RE IMPROVING THE SITUATIONS BRINGING SERVICES CLOSER TO RESIDENTS. , THANK YOU, ANY OTHER COMMENTS

FROM THE BOARD? >> THANK YOU.

>> IT HAS BEEN STATED. NONE OF THE TRAFFIC WILL GO OUT ON TO VERMONT BOULEVARD IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE QUESTION OF CONTROLLING IT THERE WILL BE NO PAVED AISLE THERE.

AND A BREAK AWAY WITH A BREAK AWAY SIMILAR TO OTHERS USED IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY THAT REQUIRE AS VEHICLE TO BREAKTHROUGH A STRUCTURE AT THAT LOCATION.

IT WILL NOT BE OPEN AND PAVED SURFACE FOR ANY COMPUTER TRAFFIC AT THAT LOCATION. I'M 100%.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BREAK AWAY GATE S THAT ONLY A FIRE

TRUCK CAN ACCESS THAT. >> OR AMBULANCE OR POLICE BUT, YES, THERE IS A SIMILAR ONE IN THE DISTRICT ON RACETRACK ROAD JUST NORTH OF THE COUNTY UTILITY DEPARTMENT NORTH AND THE ROAD TERMINATES. THIS VERY A PAVED DRIVE AISLE AND IT IS WHITE VINYL GATE WITH VERY LOW GRADE LOCK THAT A VEHICLE CAN PUSH THROUGH IN AN EMERGENCY.

>> THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP HAS BEEN NOTED BY OTHER COMMISSIONERS. YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE DOING MORE CONSERVATION THAN IS REQUIRED.

WHAT IS REQUIRED. ARE YOU DOING 98 PLUS PERCENT OF CO CONSERVATION AND ARE YOU DOING THE UP LANDS.

WHAT IS REQUIRED. YOU MENTIONED IT WAS OVER AND ABOVE WHAT YOU WERE REQUIRED TO DO.

>> OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROJECT IS 54.34 ACRES.

WE'RE OPEN SPACE TOTAL AT THE EXTERIOR HAS A 10% REQUIREMENT WHICH IS 1.17 ACRES AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PRESERVING 4.73.

WE'RE FOUR TIMES THE ACRES OF PRESERVATION REQUIRED IN THE AREA. THERE IS OTHER SPACES HOW THEY WILL BE COMBINED 7.93 THERE. WE'RE EXCEEDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVATION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT AS WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE T THE 17.34 AND UP LANDS IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO THE PROJECT. I DIDN'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME DEVELOPING THAT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMENTS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT MOVING OPEN RURAL TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS HOW IT CAN SECURE FROM YOU PRESERVE IT AND DEVELOP TO THE OPTIMUM FOR THE UP LANDS

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THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE. WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING UNDER CONSERVATION 17.34 ACRES OF UP LANDS.

THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE WETLANDS AND ALL THE RECREATION AREAS THAT ARE ON THE SITE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

AS SOMEBODY WHO IS -- I LIKE MR. COME UP I DON'T WANT TO CLASS OVER THE CONCERNS OF VERMONT BOULEVARD.

WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NO CARS.

WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY. AND YOU BASE IT IS NOT OVER CAPACITY BUT IT HAS HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC DUE TO THE LANDFILL AT THE AREA. THE LOCATES WHERE THEY TRANSFER TO GEORGIA. SO, EXPERIENCE A HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC. I'M CONCERNED WHEN I HEAR TESTIMONY AND ARE THERE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS AND.

>> WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE.

>> THERE IS NOT MUCH WE CAN DO.

AND FOR VERMONT OTHER THAN RESURFACING THAT.

WE DO NOT HAVE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THE CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE NOISES FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC VERY HEAVY AND IN THE EVENING AS WELL. AND.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> AND COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS

IS THERE A MOTION? >> , I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION. >> I MOVE TO NASDAQ 202207 PUD WINDING OAKS BASED ON FINDING OF FACTS.

>> MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO BY STAFF WE TAKE A VOICE VOTE UNTIL WE GET OUR COMPUTER ADJUSTMENT.

I WILL START ON THE LEFT. THIS IS A VOICE VOTE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE PUD.

I'LL START. BLOCKER?

>> NO. >> WALDRON?

>> NO. >> WHITEHURST?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> YES. >> I VOTE NO.

FAILS 3-2. STAFF WANTS

[2. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2021-20 Benchip Commercial. Major Modification to the Benchip Commercial PUD (ORD 2020-13) to remove Phase 2 from the Master Development Plan in order to allow for the rezoning of approximately 19.9 acres to Workforce Housing (WH). This request is a companion item to rezoning application REZ2021-24. The Planning and Zoning Agency voted 5-0 to recommend approval of MAJMOD 2021-20 Benchip Commercial.]

[3. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-24 Benchip Workforce Housing. REZ 2021-24 Benchip Workforce Housing, request to rezone approximately 19.9 acres of land from Planned Unit Development (PUD) to Workforce Housing (WH). This Rezoning is a companion application to MAJMOD 2021-20 Benchip Commercial. The Planning and Zoning Agency voted 5-0 to recommend approval of REZ 2021-24 Benchip Workforce Housing.]

>>> I A MET WITH -- WHEN DID I MEET.

AND MET WITH KURTIS FARR. NOT SEEING THE DATE.

I MEAT MET WITH KURTIS. WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT AND THE CONDITION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE GOT TO A COMMERCIAL AND SO, I WANTED TO FIND OUT.

YES, SIR. I.

>> MET WITH KURTIS AT 3:30 P.M.

AND WE DISCUSSED THE PROJECT THE HISTORY WHAT IS ENTITLED

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WHAT SEASON PROPOSING WORKFORCE HOUSING AND RECEIVED A PHONE CALL DISCUSSED THE TRIP COUNT AND HOW THAT MAY CHANGE WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS APPROVED TODAY, THAT'S ALLATIVE.

>> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD, I MET WITH KURTIS, MEGAN AND ROBERT PORTER. ON MONDAY JANUARY 31 AT 9 A.M.

WE DISCUSSED THE RE ZONING TO ALLOW FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE REQUIRED BUFFERS, TRAFFIC IMPACT AND CHANGES TO

SIGNAGE. >> OKAY, NOW WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 2 AND WE GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT 3 AND THEN WE'LL VOTE

INDIVIDUALLY ON THE ITEMS. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> KURTIS HART.

JACKSONVILLE,. >>> AND THE THANK YOU FOR THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE

PROPERTY. >> THIS IS THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHICH SHOWS ALL OF THE PROPERTY IT IS MIXED USE.

IT IS A PUD. WE'LL ASK TO MODIFY IT AND COMMERCIAL PUD. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN CALLS FOR 500,000 SQUARE FOOT OF GENERAL BUSINESS. WE CAN DEVELOP THIS AS IS TODAY AND THE REAR ALLOW FOR NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS.

THE PARCEL I WILL ASK TO TAKE OUT IS THIS PARCEL THAT WILL REMOVE THAT FROM THE PUD FROM THE PUD AND DO A WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT. SO, WE'RE ASKING TO REMOVE PHASE 2, THE PIECE YOU SAW EARLY OF 19.98 ACRES AND CREATE A WORKFORCE HOUSING THERE. WE'RE REDUCING THE OVERALL COMMERCIAL ALL ALLOWED FROM 500,000.

I ASKED FOR CONNECTIVITY AFTER MEETING I WILL CHANGE THAT REQUEST TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN AND INTERCONNECTTIVETY AND SUGGESTED AND WE HAVE AND THEY CAN EXIT BY THE NORTH THERE AND THEY WANT TO GET IT OUT THAT WAY.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO.

WE WILL PROVIDE THE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR INTERCONNECTTIVETY. THAT WOULD GIVE THEM, PRIMARILY USE THAT TO COME OUT AND GO WEST AND SO AND THE OTHER THEY USE THAT AND GO RIGHT THERE. IN ADDITION TO THIS.

WE HAVE TO -- IF WE REDUCE THE COMMERCIAL AND TURN INTO RESIDENTIAL WE HAVE TO INCREASE TO A 20-FOOT BUFFER THERE.

WE ASK TO REMOVE THE A RIGHT AT THE REMOVE THAT SIGN AND FROM THE ORIGINAL SIGN PLAN AND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT WILL MEET THE SIGN REQUIREMENTS. AND AND THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THE HOUSING COMPONENT OF IT THE SECOND ITEM THAT YOU VOTE ON AND WE HAVE ACCESS ON SAN JUAN ROAD ANOTHER IS INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER.

AND A STUDY AND. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT THERE.

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AND 1.3 ACRES AND THAT WILL MEET ON THE LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDELINES TO COMMIT AND MITIGATE FOR.

WE HAVE OPEN SPACE AND 2.86 ACRES OF MIXED USE DENSITY ALLOWS FOR 13 UNITS PER ACRE AND 19.9 ACRES AND 258 UNITS AT A MAXIMUM AMOUNT. WILDLIFE REPORTS THERE ARE 7 THAT WILL BE RELOCATED. THAT IS DIFFICULT TO DO THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE. THERE IS A LAW WE'RE TRYING TO BE ABLE TO AND PUBLIC LAND. THE SITE IS SUITABLE.

AND THROUGH TRAFFIC WE HAVE APPLICATION FOR BOTH.

NOW, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT AND ADD TWO THINGS FROM THIS PRESENTATION ONE I WILL STEP HERE.

IT IS HARD TO SEE. WE HAVE THE 500,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE IT WILL BE 18919 TRIPS PER DAY.

IF WE REMOVE THE 250,000 THAT WOULD GO TO 14120, IT WOULD GO TO 12,000 AND WE ADD BACK THE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND 17019 FOR A AT TOTAL DECREASE OF 25.37% SO WE CAN DEVELOP TODAY IF WE REMOVE THE 250,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL AND ADD THE WORKFORCE HOUSING COMPONENT. WE WILL DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL GO OUT ON 207.

AND THE ONE LAST ITEM. WE ARE, AND TO SATISFY FOR POLICE FIRE AND RESCUE, A $2000 DISCOUNT PRESENT THAT TO THOSE POLICE, FIRE AND RESCUE PRESENT IT PRIOR TO THE OPENING TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY A UNIT AND GET A DISCOUNT UNDER THE MARKET PRICE. AS YOU KNOW WORKFORCE HOUSING WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PRICE THAT AT A MAXIMUM OF 240,040% OF THE UNITS SO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SORRY I COULD NOT REACH YOU BUT I TRIED AND WE TALKED. ANY QUESTIONS? , WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON NUMBER 2.

ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT.

>> AND >> 2 AND 3 AND WE WILL VOTE

SEPARATELY. >> THESE ARE COMPANION ITEMS.

>> WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> ANYTHING,. >> AND MR. HART CAN COME UP FOR

COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU FOR DOING SOMETHING FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

WE HAD THE WORKSHOPS THAT WAS A FOCUS OF THE RESIDENTS TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE HOUSING. I WANT TO GO TO TWO THINGS.

SPECIFICALLY THAT PROVIDING THE PEDESTRIAN VEHICULAR INTERCONNECTIVITY AND CAN YOU GO OVER THAT BRIEFLY ONE MORE

TIME HOW THAT WILL WORK? >> THE COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER WILL HAVE A CONNECTION SO THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME TO THE CENTER, SOMEONE LIVING BACK IN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING WANTS TO GO SHOPPING IN THE AREAS.

THEY CAN DRIVE RIGHT INTO THEIR HOME.

THEY ARE IF THEY WANT TO LEAVE AND COME OUT THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL CENTER AND TURN WEST AND AVOID COMING OUT ON TO REAL SAN JUAN AND WILD WOOD IT IS A SHORT CUT.

BUT THE INTERCONNECTIVITY T IS A GOOD PLANNING ITEM IT WORKS WHEN IT IS DONE. AND IT IS A GOOD THING TO DO.

>> AND IS THAT AN EFFORT TO CLUSTER SO YOU ARE SHOPPING

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CLOSE TO WHERE YOU LIVE. SO YOU'RE NOT PUTTING AS MUCH TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS S THAT THE INTENT?

>> IT IS. IT IS A CAPTURE, INTERNAL

CAPTURE IS WHAT WE KNOW IT AS. >> QUICK, GOING BACK TO THIS.

THIS IS IMPORTANT. YOU MENTIONED THIS ON THE PHONE AND THE DISCOUNT. THAT IS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS AND FIREFIGHTERS. LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT T IS DIFFICULT TO GET THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO ST. JOHNS, INFLATION, COST. AND IT IS DIFFICULT.

THAT IS DIFFICULT. WE'LL OFFER THAT TWO WEEKS EARLY SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET DEPOSITS

DOWN. >> WHAT WILL YOU LOOK FOR VERIFICATION AND I GUESS THE BADGE ALL OF THAT.

THAT'S A PROCESS TO VERIFY THEIR FIRST RESPONDERS.

>> THAT IS EASY TO DO. >> I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER THIRD TIMER.

>> IT HAS. >> AND I SAID GIVING UP PERSONAL FOR I DON'T LIKE THAT.

AND THIS BEING WORKFORCE HOUSING EASES MY CONCERNS ON

THAT A BIT. >> A COUPLE OF THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FENCE THAT IS TAKEN OUT.

WE'LL DO THAT. >> AND HEADLINED OUT OF THE FENCE. THERE IS A FIVE ACRE PARCEL WE'RE DOING A 20-FOOT BUFFER AND FENCE.

WE'LL PUT THAT BACK IN. AND A FIVE ACRE OUT PARCEL.

>> THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT. >> THAT WAS NOT BY INTENT IF IT WAS. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TAKEN

OUT. >> WILL YOU HAVE IMPACT FEES?

>> WE HAVE $1.775 MILLION OF IMPACT FEES AND SHARE FOR HOMES BOULEVARD. CLOSE TO $2 MILLION.

IS THAT STRAIGHT PURCHASE? >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> , BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEED AND IT IS IN A LOCATION WHERE HOUSE SOMETHING GOING AND BEING CENTRALIZED, I MAKE A MOTION TO NASDAQ 2022-7.

>> MOD FAY CAGES AND BASED ON. >> SECOND.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. OUR MACHINES WORKING SO --

>> MR. CHAIRMAN? I JUST A DISCUSSION ON THE RECORD THAT -- MR. WALDRON, DID YOU WANT THAT TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE ON THE FENCE GOING BACK INTO THE PUD?

>> YES, SIR. >> , WE DID IT AT ONE TIME NEEDS TO BE IN THE AND MOTION BUT WHAT WE DID WAS HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE PUT ON TOP OF THE PUD WHEN SAYS WHAT THE CHANGES WERE SO THAT CAN BE VERIFIED SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT THAT WERE MADE ON THE BOARD.

I WILL, I WILL ADD THOSE CHANGES TO MY MOTION.

>> I'LL MAINTAIN MY SECOND. MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> MR. CHAIR, AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IS A RESPONSIBILITY WE'LL MAKE SURE THE ITEMS ARE LISTED ON

THE PUD. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND AS AMENDED, PLEASE VOTE.

IT PASSES. >> WE HAVE NUMBER 3 TO VOTE

ON. >> A MOTION TO ENACT REZONING 2021-24 BENCHIP WORKFORCE HOUSING.

FROM PUD TO WORKFORCE HOUSING AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

[4. Public Hearing * REZ 2020-22 Bella Terra Storage. Request to rezone approximately 1.7 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Commercial General (CG). The applicant is proposing a mini-warehouse facility with office and boat and RV storage. The property is located west of US 1 and south of Bella Terra Drive. The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended approval with a 6-1 vote at their December 16, 2021 regular meeting. The Agency heard this request in connection with the Special Use Permit to allow for a mini-warehouse facility. The Agency discussed the design of the facility at this location.]

REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

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THAT PASSES 5-0. WE WILL NOW TAKE UP IN THE 4.

ITEM 4 ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE EMT PARTY -- WE HAVE

EXPARTY -- EXPARTE. >> I HAVE NONE TO REPORT.

>> WHITEHURST, NONE. >> AND COMMISSIONER ARNOLD?

>> NONE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES, SIR.

GOOD MORNING. >>> GOOD MORNING THANK YOU FOR INVITING US I'M RUSSELL SIMMONS ST AUGUSTINE BEACH.

ARE YOU READY FOR THE PRESENTATION?

>> GO AHEAD. >> THERE WE GO.

>> AND THIS WAS A APPROVED IN DECEMBER.

THERE WE GO. SO IT IS IN THREE PARTS THE REZONING AND0 TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL.

THE VARIANCE FOR THE THEN THE STIPULATIONS THERE ARE TWO OF THEM. ONE FOR THE RV AND ONE FOR THE MINI STORAGE. THIS IS THE PROPERTY DESCRIPTION OF IT. AND THE FAMILY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE IS.

THEY HAVE THE 70% WE'RE ASKING FOR SUGGESTED BY STAFF THAT MAYBE INSTEAD OF COMMERCIAL OR WAREHOUSE WE DO OPEN RESIDENTIAL AND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED.

AND IT IS ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN 207 AND 206 OFF U.S.-1.

THE NEAREST CROSS ROAD IS WATSON THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.

THIS SHOWS THE LOT HERE AND THE COMMERCIAL AND OPEN RESIDENTIAL. COMMERCIAL GENERAL.

OPEN RESIDENTIAL AT ONE POINT THIS IS BEING REZONED THAT HAD EXPIRED. AND THIS IS THE LOT RIGHT HERE.

, THIS IS FROM THE CULTURAL SURVEY AND THE DIRT ROAD THAT YOU CAN SEE. THIS IS THE LAKE AS RECENTLY MODIFIED BY THE COUNTY IN ANTICIPATION OF OTHER WATER AND DRAINAGE WORK. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH TAKEN FROM THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OF U.S.-1.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY. CAN YOU SEE IT RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS THE DIRT ROAD. WE'RE WORKING WITH RYAN CARTER AND DOING AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE WETLANDS AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED. AND BECAUSE OF THE AREA WORKED ON HERE BY THE COUNTY, THIS RED AREA HAS BEEN PERMITTED AND, PERMITTED AND MITIGATED BY THE COUNTY IN THE RED.

AND THE GREEN IS THE WETLANDS FOR IDENTIFYING AND WORKING TO MITIGATE SHOWING US-1. BELLA TERRA AND THE RETENTION POND. THIS IS 400 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE AND WITH 1000 AND MINI STORAGE SPACE WHEN TRANCE AND EXIT ON TO U.S.-1. YOU CAN NOT TELL THE HASH MARKS I DID THIS ON XCEL THEY ARE TO SCALE.

IT CAME UP HOW BIG IS THE LOT T IS ABOUT 420 ON THIS SIDE.

175 ON THAT SIDE. THIS IS THE MEETING WHERE THEY HAVE GIVEN US VERBAL ACCESS TO U.S.-1 THAT'S NOT US.

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THAT'S IT. QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS. >> AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN IT UP ON NUMBER 4. COMMENT ON IN THE 4.

SEEING NONE. WE'RE CLOSING.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >>> MR. CHAIRMAN I HAVE A

QUESTION, I GUESS FOR LEGAL. >> YES.

>> CAN WE MAKE THE MOTION TO REFLECT THE APPLICANT'S INTENT TO MAKE THIS MINI STORAGE AND STORAGE OR IS THIS TO REFLECT REZONING TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL? CAN YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE I GUESS IS THE QUESTION OR MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GETTING.

>> I'LL DEFER TO THE SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY ON

THIS. >> TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, IN THE CASE THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE. SO, THAT WOULD BE THE USE ON THE PROPERTY IN THE PARTICULAR CASE.

, UNLESS YOU WANTED TO PROPOSE A REZONING TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL WITH CONDITIONS THAT THE OPERATION BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT WOULD BE IT.

THAT'S THE ONLY SUGGESTION SINCE IT IS NOT A PUD.

>> IF I MAY, AND WITH THE GOOD FAITH IF YOU APPROVE THE REZONING ADD SHOULD THOSE NEVER COME TO FRUITION THEN THE GENERAL THEY WOULD HAVE ALL RIGHTS TO USE ANY WITHIN.

IS THAT CLEAR? >> THE BEST AND THINGS HAPPEN I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TURNING IT INTO A WAREHOUSE.

YOU CAN PUT A CONDITION ON IT. THAT'S MY COMMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE IT WITH THE CONDITION.

>> AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.

ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? >> I WOULD BE HAPPY.

AND SO I WOULD MOVE TO ENACT 2022.

>> WITH THE CONDITION THAT IT BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE IN THE REPORT APPROVING REZ AND BELLA TERRA STORAGE WITH THE FINDINGS

IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> AND COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. >> THAT WAS IDEA FOUR.

NOW ITEM 5 AND. >> IS THERE A BUSINESS THAT YOU HAD IN MIND THAT YOU WANTED TO DISCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT OF?

>> NO. >> I LOOKED THROUGH WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AND SMALL BUSINESS OFFICES OR SOMETHING.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WHERE YOU GET A ZONING ONE SAYS SOMETHING IT FALLS THROUGH AND SOMETHING POPS UP.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE APPROVING WHAT IS EXPRESSED TO US DURING THE MEETING IF NO OTHER REASON THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE APPROVING.

[5. Public Hearing * PUD 2021-11 Rolling Hills. Request to rezone approximately 12.7 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to accommodate a 47-lot single-family residential subdivision. The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended approval with a 6-0 vote its December 21, 2021 regular meeting.]

>> TO ELIMINATE CONFUSION. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE FORCED TO DEAL WITH PERCEPTION AS WE ARE THE FACTS

IN THE JOBS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. >> ITEM 5.

AND 5 I BELIEVE THAT'S A EX-PARTE.

LET'S GRAB THAT. BLOCKER?

>> THANK YOU. I MET ON THURSDAY JANUARY 20TH AT 1 P.M. WITH SHANNON AVENUE AVENUE.

JUST DIN DUDLEY AND MAX GARCIA.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCOPE AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND AS WELL AS THE OVERALL PLAN TO ADDRESS SOME RESIDENT CONCERNS.

>> AND COMMISSIONER WALDRON? >> AND MR. CHAIRMAN, ON JANUARYH AT 10:30 I MED WITH SHANNON ACEVEDO, JUSTIN DUDLEY, RYAN SWITZERLAND AND MAX GARCIA. WE DISCUSSED THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT, THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

THIS IS THE SITE AREA WHERE IT WAS LOCATED -- LOCATED.

>> AND ON THURSDAY THE 27TH AND I MET WITH SHANNON ACEVEDO,

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JUSTIN DUDLEY. AND MAX GARCIA AND DISCUSSING THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE PROJECT.

>> AND ON JANUARY 27TH AT 3:30 I MET WITH SHANNON ACEVEDO AND JUSTIN DUDLEY. AND SWITZERLAND AND MAX GARCIA TO DISCUSS THE TRAFFIC AND THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.

>> ON MONDAY JANUARY 24TH AT NOON I MET WITH SHANNON ACEVEDO, JUSTIN DUDLEY. RYAN SWITZERLAND AND MAX GASSER GASSER. WE DISCUSSED THE LAYOUT, BUFFERS AND PRESERVATION AND TRAFFIC IMPACT.

>> AND NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ON ITEM 5.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON PULTE'S BEHALF. I'M MAX GASSER GATORS WITH THE DESIGN GROUP 7 WALDO STREET I'M HERE WITH THE TEAM AND THE APPLICANT OF THE PULTE GROUP. AND WE ARE HERE AND WITH REGARDS TO AN ITEM FOR THE ROLLING HILLS REZONING TO PUD.

IT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF 207 AROUND WHERE THE JUST SOUTH OF THE THEATER ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBDIVISION AND IT IS TO THE WEST T IS NOT OFF ROLLING HILLS DRIVE.

AND HERE IS A MAP OF THE ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE.

THE PROPERTY AS I MENTIONED IS ZONED FOR OPEN RURAL ADJACENT TO THE WEST IT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE.

ACROSS THE STREET IS THE SUBDIVISION A PUD AND THAT ADJACENT TO THE WEST IS A POND.

AND THEN THE ZONING THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL WHICH ALLOWS TO SIX UNITS IN ACRE WITH PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

AND ACROSS THE STREET IS MIXED USE.

DISTRICT AND ADJACENT TO THE EAST.

PART OF THE PROJECT THE DENSITY IS FOUR UNITS AN ACRE AND 12 ACRES OF LAND AND 47 RESIDENTIAL LOTS ABOUT.

IT IS 47 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND A MINIMUM OF 5300.

IT HAS THREE WAIVERS AS PART OF THE REQUEST.

THE WAIVERS ARE TO ALLOW A PROJECTION INTO SIDE YARD FOR THE SOFFITTS AND 3-FOOT SET BACK INSTEAD OF 5 FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT. THE INTENTION IS TO ALLOW MORE EQUIPMENT ON THE SIDE OR CLOSER TO THE BACK SO THE BACKYARD IS MORE OPEN TO OTHER ACCESSORY AND STRUCTURES.

THIS WOULD -- THE SET BACK WOULD APPLY.

AND FINALLY THE THIRD BUFFER PART OF THE EASTERN BOUNDARY WITH THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ZONING AND WE ARE REQUESTING A BUFFER CHANGE FROM C TO B. THE MAIN REASON BEING C REQUIRES A MASONRY WALL TO NOT ALLOW RESIDENTS TO BE INTERRUPTED BY THE WAREHOUSE T IS NOT NECESSARY THERE ARE 200 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE WAREHOUSES AND A CONSERVATION EASEMENT SERVING THAT SPACE BETWEEN THEM.

THERE IS 70 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BOUNDARY TO THE NEAREST HOME AND THE WEST THERE IS THE POND.

THERE IS A PERIMETER BUFFER ON ALL THE SIDES EXCLUDING THE 30-FOOT BUFFER WHERE THE WAREHOUSES ARE.

AS PART OF THE PROJECT. WE ARE REQUIRED TO ADD A 1200-FOOT 8-INCH MAINE TO CONNECT THE SEWER UP TO WHERE THE SUBDIVISION ENTRANCE IS. THERE IS SEWER AVAILABLE AND WATER TO THE EAST. THIS COMPLETES THE ROLLING HIHILLS CORRIDOR CONNECTIONS.

AS PART OF THE PROJECT THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE FLOOD ZONE AND THE SOIL IS SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS NO -- THERE IS MINIMAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT WITH .08 WETLANDS IMPACTED ON THE SITE. THE REMAIN OTHER OF THE WETLANDS WILL NOT BE DISTURBED.

WE WILL COMPLY WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THE GOPHER TORTOISE IS RELOCATED.

THERE IS NO OTHER -- THE PROPERTY IS NOT SUITABLE FOR OTHER PROTECTED SPECIES. AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC REVIEW ON THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE 47 PEAK HOUR TRIPS FOR THE PROPERTY. THE ROLLING HILLS DRIVE ITSELF IS -- IT IS AN OKAY CONDITION EVEN AFTER WE INCLUDE THE PEAK HOUR TRIPS FOR ROLLING HILLS. AND THERE IS A RIGHT RETURN WHICH IS REQUIRED RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THAT WILL BE

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REQUIRED. THIS WILL PREVENT STACKING ON THE ROLLING HILLS DRIVE COMING FROM 207 SOUTH ON ROLLING HILLS. AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

STAFF DID NOT REQUIRE A LEFT TURN LANE OR A TRAFFIC STUDY SUCH. SO, STAFF DETERMINED THERE IS CAPACITY FOR 47 LOTS. JUST TO SPEAK TO THE SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION CONCERNS WE HEARD TODAY AND IN PAST GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOPS THERE ARE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE POINTS AND WE'LL START WITH THE DOWN HERE THE 59.1 ROADWAY LING. KINGS ESTATE AND CONNECTS DOBBS TO AND THIS IS A DEVENT ROUTE. BUT IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THAT OUR IMPACT WOULD BE ADVERSELY IMPACTING THE EXTENSION.

WE WOULD -- 1% OF THE TRAFFIC WOULD COME ON TO THIS PORTION.

HOWEVER THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT 30% AT ROLLING HILLS COME DOWN AND WE DO NOT FEEL THIS IS A GOING DOWN ON U.S.-1.

AND MOST WOULD BE HEADING NORTH TO THE 207 CORRIDOR.

TO SPEAK TO THE ROUTE HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW AN EXHIBIT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE AND INTO THE OPPORTUNITY.

I WANTED TO SHARE THIS. >> SO -- OUR IS RIGHT HERE.

AND HERE IS THE AND THAT I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT.

120%. WITH REGARDS TO THE EXTENSION AND OCCURRING. THAT IS FULLY FUNDED.

THIS WOULD LIKELY ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC FROM ROLLING HILLS IF THEY ARE TRYING TO GO NORTH UP THE BOULEVARD TO GET STATE ROUTE 16 OR I-9 A GOING NORTH. THIS WILL ALLEVIATE AND COMING FROM 312 WEST GOING NORTH WE NO LONGER HAVE TO UTILIZE THE ROUTE RIGHT HERE. AND THE SAME THING WILL GO FOR ANYONE GOING NORTH AND WHICH IS A DEVENT ROUTE AND ASSIST WITH THAT TRAFFIC THAT IS FOLLOWING THE INTERSECTION.

THAT'S CONSIDERATION IS THE IMPACT FEES.

WITH REGARDS TO THE IMPACT FEES FOR TRANSPORTATION OR ROADS, WE WOULD BE ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ALL OF THESE LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION. WE'REET CREATING NO MORE DEVENT OR CRITICAL ROUTES THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTION TO ANY OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE SYSTEM IN THE SITE, WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE DISTRICT THAT RESERVED 22 STUDENTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

WITHIN THIS AREA THERE IS ABOUT 22 STUDENTS AND RESERVED.

AND FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 10 OF THOSE WILL GO AND THREE OF THOSE WILL GO TO RJ MIDDLE SCHOOL AND 7 WILL GO TO MENENDEZ SCHOOL. THIS IS A QUICK SUMMARY.

WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE.

WE ARE TAPPING OUT AT FOUR UNITS AN ACRE AND WE ARE TRYING TO ADHERE BY THE POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT COMPLETES THE CORRIDOR, ASSIS ASSISTS WITH UTILITIES AND PROVIDES IMPACT FEES THIS IS NOT LIKE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN. THERE IS NO FEES AND IT IS -- IT IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD AND IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. WE HOPE YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME, THANK YOU; WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA NUMBER 5. , ED SLAVIN.

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VOTE NO THIS IS TRYING TO CONVERT OPEN RURAL TO PUD.

IT IS PULTE THE SAME FOLKS FOUND GUILTY OF DESTROYING 22 BURROWS IN MARION COUNTY. I'M UNCONVINCED OF THE LEGITIMACY AS A CORPORATION. THERE IS NO NEED TO CREATE NEW HO HOMES NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES.

WHO WOULD WANT TO BRING THEIR FAMILY THERE WITH THE NOISE.

IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT IS LIKE THE ASPHALT PLANT WATCHING A BCC MEETING ON TELEVISION BACK IN 2005 THERE WAS A FELLOW BY JAY BRYANT ELECTED COMMISSIONER. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ASPHALT PLANT. NOW I TALKED TO THE STAFF I READ ARTICLES THE STAFF WAS COMPLETELY ON LIVE OUS TO THE FACT THAT ASPHALT PLANTS INCREASE BRAIN CANCER BY 16 TIMES. THEY INCREASE SUICIDE LEVELS BY 16 TIMES. THE LADY IN CHARGE DID NOT GIVE A FIG AND CARE. THAT WAS BEYOND HERE PREHENCE AND HER INTEREST WE DON'T NEED TO PUT HOMES NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES THAT IS BAD ZONING. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT DOES TO THE PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO ENJOY THE HOME HAVING A WARE HOUSE NEXT DOOR? THIS IS BAD PLANNING I'M GLAD YOU VOTED DOWN THE PRIOR PULTE ITEM I HOPE YOU VOTE THIS DOWN. WE NEED AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION COMMISSION IN ST. JOHNS JUST LIKE IN HILLSBOROUGH BUT I'M -- I'M FLOORED THEY BRING, IT IS A DOG WITH FLEAS.

THIS IS A LITERALLY A DOG WITH FLEAS.

IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE PUBLIC.

THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO PUTTING HOMES NEXT TO TRAIL WAREHOUSES.

WHY TAKE ANY MORE LAND OUT OF RURAL.

THAT'S WHY THERE WERE 67 WITNESSES HERE A WEEK ACCEPT.

ARE YOU LISTENING TO THEM. THANK YOU.

VOTE THIS DOWN AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO IDENTIFY EVERY SINGLE INVESTOR AND OWNER IN THE PROJECT UNDER FLORIDA CONFLICT OF INTEREST FLORIDA STATUTE 112, HOW CAN WE KNOW IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IF WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE INVESTORS. WE HAVE A FORM THAT ASKS EACH PROJECT THAT IDENTIFY EVERYBODY THAT SERVES TO BENEFIT FROM IT. THANK YOUOR YOUR CONSIDERATION

AND VOTING DOWN THE PRIOR ITEM. >> BJ KALADI.

THIS WILL PROBABLY SUGGEST NOT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST NOT ONLY FOR YOU BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTENING. IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF HOW IT WAS DISCUSSED ON THE 25TH IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A PICTURE BEFORE DEGREES AND WHATEVER AND THEN AFTERNOON HOUSES AND THINGS AND HOUSES ADD THINGS AND WHATEVER JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY TRIED TO SAY AT THE 25TH TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING. TALKINGIS ONE THING THE DOCUMENTS AND THINGS BUT WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE YOU SEE EVERYTHING IS GOING AND SOME THINGS HAVE TO GO.

I THINK SOME DEVELOPERS CAN KEEP MORE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY AS A COUNTY. WE WANT TO NOT GO BACK.

IF SOMEONE CAN ANSWER THIS, I HAVE TO GET WITH PHONG NGUYEN AND HIS PEOPLE THEY WILL GIVE $500,000 TO THE IMPACT FEE.

WHAT WE AS THE PUBLIC NEED TO KNOW, ARE THEY GIVING US MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD HERE BY THE COUNTY OR WHEN DO WE GET THAT MONEY AND GOING BACK TO THE COST OF INFLATION.

WE BROUGHT THAT UP BUT THE INFLATION AND WILL THIS 500,000 GET UP TO A MILLION AND THEN THEY CAN USE THAT AND IF THEY

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DON'T USE PART OF THAT THAT IS SITTING HERE SOME PLACE, THEY CAN GIVE IT AWAY. THAT'S CONCERNING THEY WILL DO THAT NOW. AND GIVING IT TO FIXING AND DEVELOPING SOMETHING AND THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS.

INFLATION, AND A T COMMUNITY WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING SO THAT WE CAN REALLY SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT IS THE TIME. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON

ITEM NUMBER 5. >> DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO MAKE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? , THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT. WE HAVE SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBOR, I WANT TO GO BACK HERE.

THE SPACE NEXT TO AN INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE THE BUFFER ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY AND 215 FEET OF SEPARATION, THAT'S 250 FEET OF SEPARATION BEYOND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUFFERING BETWEEN PROPERTIES. WE WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE, THEY HAVE GOTTEN OUR UTILITY PLANS. THEY HAVE SEEN OUR PLANS THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE HAD GOOD RELATIONSHIP AND WE'LL REACH OUT IF WE HAVE TO WORK ON THINGS DURING THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. AND AS FAR AS THE OPEN RURAL ZONING. THIS IS A LOT THAT'S AS PART OF AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT SURROUNDED BY MIXED USE DISTRICT AND IN A RESIDENTIAL SEAT TYPE OF DESIGNATION NOT SUITABLE FOR FARM LOTS, AGRICULTURE,,,ST IT IS OPEN FOR USES LIKE CHILD CARE AND LIVING FACILITY THIS IS A COMPARABLE -- A GOOD SOLUTION TO THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S THERE CAN HAVE MINUTE 10 LOTS WITH THE DESIGNATION THAT'S BEFORE THE DESIGN. KEEP IN CONSIDERATION OF PRESERVING THE WETLANDS AND MAKING A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SUITABLE. AND ROLLING HILLS DOES A GOOD JOB AND THE BENEFITS THE IMPACT FEES THE 500 NUMBER FIGURE I GAVE WAS ONLY FOR ROAD IMPACT FEES I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES FOR FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THOSE FEES WOULD ASSIST IN THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION IN ST.

JOHNS. WE HOPE THAT IS HELPFUL.

THANK YOU. , ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

FROM THE BOARD? >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> MR. GARCIA, ARE THE ROADS INTERIOR PRIVATE OR PUBLIC?

>> I'M NOT SURE I CAN SO CONSULT REAL QUICK, SIR.

IF IT IS YOUR PREFERENCE THAT HE CAN BE PRIVATE.

>> AND THIS IS A VERY BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I HAVE DRIVEN BY IT I CUT THROUGH GOING HOME.

ARE YOU TRYING TO SAVE THE OAK TREES OTHER THAN THE ONE

SECTION TO THE BACKSIDE? >> I HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOST RECENT TREE SURVEYKY SPEAK WITH THE ENGINEER AND GIVE YOU THOSE

VALUES. >> AND THE MAJORITY OF TREES ALONG THE BUTCHER AND BOUNDERRING BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL USE AND US AND WE WENT OUT AND DONE SURVEY OF THEM AND INCLUDED THEM AND USED THEM IN THE BUFFERING.

THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE IN THE AERIAL THERE BUT WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED ANY TREES ON THE INTERIOR.

>> SO YOU WILL LEAVE THE BUFFER NATURAL?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WE WILL SUPPLEMENT IT AS NEEDED AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS BUT WE GPSED THOSE AND WE'RE USING THEM IN THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AREA RATHER THAN TEAR DOWN AND REPLACE.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> COMMENT? IS THERE A MOTION?

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> WHAT THE NEW MAP WILL DO. AND I KNOW THIS IS ANOTHER PART I WILL SAY THIS CLOSE TO TOWN AND JOBS IT IS CLOSE TO

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U.S.-1. DOBBS ROAD T ROLLING HILLS NEVER SEEMS THAT BUSY. THE EXTENSION OF 313, 312 WILL BUILD THINGS EVEN IF THEY BUILD IT UP.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT 2022-10 AND PUD 2021-11.

ROLLING HILLS BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT PRESENTED IN

[6. Public Hearing * NZVAR 2021-14 1261 South Winterhawk. A non-zoning variance to Section 6.02.01.B.3.a of the Land Development Code to allow for the use of an easement for access in a platted subdivision.]

THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM 5.

PLEASE VOTE. APPROVED 5-0.

NUMBER 6. IT IS A -- SORRY.

>>> 4-1. >> 4-1.

I MISREAD. THAT'S OKAY.

>> AND COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST VOTING NO.

>> I THINK WE'RE READY FOR 6. 6 IS EX-PARTE.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER? 6.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE NO RECORD OF COMMUNICATION. MR. WALDRON.

>> NONE. MR. WHITEHURST?

>> NONE. >> ARNOLD?

>> NONE. >> I HAVE NONE.

GO AHEAD WITH NUMBER 6. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> GOOD I'M KIMBERLY SIKES AT IN ST AUGUSTINE TODAY I'M PRESENTING NON-ZONING VARIANCE 2021-14 1261 SOUTH WINTER HAWK DRIVE. AND I AM REQUESTING A NON-ZONING VARIANCE TO SECTION 6.02.01. B.ABOUT.A TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF A 30-FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT FOR A ROAD AND IN A PLATTED SUBDIVISION. AND THIS IS A MAP OF THE LOCATION AND THE PROPERTY IS NORTH OF DEER CHASE ROAD AND THE SOUTH PARCEL OF THE LAND AT 1261 SOUTH WINTER HAWK DRIVE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS RESIDENTIAL C.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR A SINGLE FAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL RS 2. TO THE TOP OF THE PHOTOGRAPH WOULD BE SOUTH WINTER HAWK DRIVE AND THE BOTTOM IS DEER CHASE ROAD. AND THEN NEXT.

ALL RIGHT THIS IS A CURRENT SURVEY MAP OF THE PROPERTY.

THE SURVEY MAP THIS INCLUDES IN RED I HAVE OUTLINED THE 30-FOOT EASEMENT PROVIDING ACCESS FROM SOUTH WINTER HAWK DRIVE.

THE EASEMENT WILL BE REVIEWED FOR EXPLODE COMPLIANCE DURING THE SHEETS AND BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

THE RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF THE CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE MADE IN THE FUTURE IF THAT EASEMENT IS PROVIDED.

AND THEN THE LOT WAS CREATED IN 2005.

IF THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED, THE REPLAT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO BRING THE LOT INTO COMPLIANCE. THEN THIS IS A STREET VIEW FROM SOUTH WINTER HAWK LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE PARCEL PROPERTY AND ON THE RIGHT PARK TRAILS IS THE DIRT TRAILS EXISTING AT THIS TIME AND THEN THE EASEMENT WILL BE THE ACCESS EASEMENT WILL BE PARALLEL TO THE EAST OF PARK TRAIL AND THE EASEMENT IS PROVIDED ON A PRIVATE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THANK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND TIME.

>> NUMBER 6 WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON 6.

SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF NOT IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM 6.

I BELIEVE. >> DID YOU WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC

COMMENT ON THE ITEM? >> MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YES, SIR. >>

>> THE PROPERTY ADJACENT JUST TO THE WEST OF THE ROAD.

THERE IS THREE RESIDENCES THAT DEPEND ON THAT ROAD.

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I LEARNED THAT THE EASEMENT WILL NOT AFFECT OUR COMING AND GOING FROM OUR PROPERTY WHICH IS NICE TO HEAR.

I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION -- I HOPE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE ROAD.

IT IS NOT JUST A PIECE OF DIRT BUILT IN 1765.

IT WAS AN INDIAN TRAIL BEFORE THAT.

WE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME THERE IS A LOT OF WILDLIFE. THERE IS THE CONTINUING DEVELOPMENT. AND JUST MAKING THE ANIMALS CRAZY. MY INTEREST HAS.

MY FEAR ALLAYED BY SEEING THE DIVISION OF THE ROAD AND THE TRAIL THAT THE EASEMENT OF 30 PEOPLE INTO OUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY. WE HAVE A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD T IS DARK AND QUIET AND WE HAVE ELDERLY THAT WALK THE ROADS AND KIDS ON SKATEBOARDS SKATING. IT IS IDYLLIC ANYONE THAT GOES THROUGH YOU KNOW THE CAR. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC.

I HOPE IT STAYS THAT WAY. I HOPE THAT THE NEIGHBORS WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BEING AN AMATEUR ASTRONOMER I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE CONSIDER APPRECIATE THAT NOT PUTTING STREETLIGHTS IN I HOPE THEY STAY DARK FOR A LONG TIME.

AND YOU MAY CONSIDER A DARK SKY CITY.

I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT THAT.

IT IS QUITE THE ATTRACTION TO SEE THE STARS AND THE LIGHTS.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. , THANK FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ITEM 6? WE WILL CLOSE AGAIN PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A FINAL COMMENT?

>> I HAVE TO AGREE IT IS QUIET.

MY PARENTS OWN THAT FRONT PARCEL THAT'S WHY THERE IS AN AGREEMENT OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS USING THAT 30 FEET.

AND I KNOW THAT THE EASEMENTS IS NOT DOES NOT IMPEDE ON TO PARK TRAIL. YOU KNOW WE ALONG WITH THEM WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE TRAIL ROAD.

AND HAVING THE EASEMENTS ALLOWS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY NOT BEING THAT ACRE NOT BEING LANDLOCKED.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. LIKE WE SAID I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY BEHIND IT AND PARK TRAIL IT IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING THAT ACCESS EASEMENT TO ANY DEGREE.

THAT'S IT. , THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE NON-ZONING VARIANCE AND REQUESTING A NON-ZONING VARIANTS TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO 6.02.01. B .3. A OF THE USE OF AN EASEMENT FOR ACCESS AND A PLATTED IN SUBDIVISION BASED ON SIX FINDINGS AND

[7. Public Hearing * VACROA 2021-08 - Public Hearing to vacate a portion of unopened Diesel Road right-of-way. The applicant has requested the vacation of a portion of unopened Diesel Road right-of-way. The right-of-way vacation being requested is located immediately adjacent to Arapaho Ave, east of U.S. 1 (Ponce De Leon Blvd). Based on staff's review thus far, traffic patterns will not be negatively impacted, and no party will be unreasonably affected by the requested vacation.]

SUBJECT TO SIX CONDITIONS AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND ON ITEM 6 PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT IS PASSED 5-0.

NUMBER 7. I DO NOT THINK IS EX-PARTE.

IS THAT CORRECT? , HEAL HEAR FROM THE

APPLICANT. >>> GOOD MORNING IT IS STILL

MORNING, WE'RE ROLLING ALONG. >> IT IS MORNING.

MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS MAYBE A GOOD STRETCH SINCE WE HAVE BEEN HERE A WHILE GET A LITTLE CIRCULATION GOING.

I'M ELLEN AVERY-SMITH. WHETSTONE PLACE.

WITH ME ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND WIN WARD SHIPPING AND THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY LOCATED I'M SORRY THIS DOES NOT SHOW UP WELL ON THE SCREEN BUT YOU CAN SEE U.S.-1 AND ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE. THE PROJECT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE SHIPYARDS. IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU GO IT IS ON THE SAN SEBASTIAN RIVER. AND THERE IS A RESTAURANT ALONG

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THE WATERFRONT AND THERE IS VACANT LAND THAT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO APPROVALS FROM THE CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE. THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS THE COUNTY LOANS LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.

THIS IS ACTUALLY DIESEL ROAD WHICH IS AN UNOPENED PORTION OF THE ROAD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BY ST. JOHNS.

WIN WARD OWNS IT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AND IT OWNS THE LAND ON THE EXTENT NEAR THE SAND SEBASTIAN RIVER.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VACATING THIS PORTION OF DIESEL ROAD.

THIS IS ARAPAHOE, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE CLOSED.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS UNOPENED SECTION OF THE RIGHT AWAY WHERE THE RED LINE IS. YOU SEE THERE IS A POND LOCATED THERE IN PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY NOW AND EXTENDS DOWN TO THIS POINT, THIS POINT, THIS AREA IS OWNED BY WIN WARD AGAIN AND PROVIDES THE ACCESS TO THE WATER.

SO YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE AS A BOATER, AND AGAIN, YOU SEE THE DRY STACK AND SEE THE WET MARINA THERE.

THERE IS ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT THROUGH THAT PROPERTY WHICH, AGAIN IS IN THE CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE.

WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY AND THE UTILITY PROVIDERS AND SERVE THE AREA THEY ARE ALL OKAY.

WE WORK WITH FP AND L AND COME CAST TO GIVE THEM REPLACEMENT EASEMENTS THE GETTING RID OF THE RIGHT OF WAY WE HAVE TO HAVE EASEMENTS WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

OBVIOUSLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, IT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT THAT IS PROPOSED RIGHT HERE AND SO, THOSE ALL TILL TILLS WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE THE PROJECT AND OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE SHIPYARDS AS IT DEVELOPS. WITHOUT TAKING MORE OF YOUR TIME I APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVING THE.

>> ANY COMMENT. >> OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON 7. PUBLIC COMMENT NOW ON THE ITEM

NUMBER 7. >> BJ CALADI.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE YEARS AGO. THE DIESEL ROAD HAS BEEN FENCED OFF TO THE PUBLIC. THERE IS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDING A GARAGE. WILL THE COUNTY CHARGE ROAD IMPACT FEES TO THE DEVELOPER FOR THEIR IMPACT ON ARAPAHOE AND U.S.-1? ARAPAHOE.

CANNOT GET THERE WITHOUT IT OR U.S.-1.

WHAT HAS THE DEVELOPER PAID THE COUNTY FOR IMPACT FEES ON THE ROADS? THIS DEVELOPER WILL BE AT TODAY'S PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING AND IN THE CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE TO ASK FOR AN EXCEPTION TO DO SOME STUFF.

DENIED UNLESS THE COUNTY CAN COLLECT MORE THAN $416 TO GIVE THE ROAD TO A DEVELOPER TO INCREASE THEIR BOTTOM LINE AND THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT U.S.-1 WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN.

THERE IS NO TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.

THE STUDIES SAID WE DON'T NEED ONE AND THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUSEUM HERE AND THIS IS GIVE AWAY BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ARAPAHOE AND IMPACT FEES ON AND ANYONE WAS TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE, I WAS GOING TO SAY.

>> GO AREAD. AND THAT IS IN THE CITY THEY DO

NOT CHARGE IMPACT FEES. >> YOU'RE RIGHT ON THAT ARAPAHOE IS A COUNTY ROAD THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> I GOT YOU, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE CITY, TOO, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. SLAVIN.

>> ED SLAVIY. I AGREE WITH THE CONCERNS AND THERE IS NO PUBLIC BENEFIT FROM THE PROPOSAL.

NONE. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH STATE LAW ON STREET VACATIONS IT SAYS THAT YOU GET THE LAND FOR FREE. THAT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THAT'S TALLAHASSEE BASICALLY SUBSIDISING DEVELOPERS. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME UTILITY AT THIS TIME WHEN THEY WERE SMALL OWNERS AND RURAL ROADS INVOLVED. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS

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THAT THE STATE LAW SAYS WE CANNOT CHARGE THE DEVELOPER IF WE'RE GOING TO VACANT THE LAND.

AND TABLE THIS AND LET'S ASK OUR LOBBYISTS IN TALLAHASSEE TO LOBBY THE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THE LAW AND LET US CHARGE.

WHERE ELSE DO YOU GET FREE LAND? THIS IS NOT 1870. WE'RE GIVING AWAY, THE

TAXPAYERS AND TO THE CITY. >> ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

WITH THAT PROPOSAL. >> WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD AND WE'RE BACK TO THE APPLICANT, ANY COMMENTS.

>> ONE QUICK INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE CITY. THERE IS AN AMENDED REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ST AUGUSTINE TO PROVIDE AND WHEN WARRANTED AND AGREED TO BY DOT.

AND SO, THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT INTERSECTION AND THE CITY IS ON IT AND OUR SILENTS ARE IN IT AS PART OF THE PLAN. WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY TAXES ONCE THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE SHIPYARDS IT WILL PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES AND THEY WILL DEVELOP THAT YOU SHOULD GET INCREASED TAX BASE FOR THE PROPERTY.

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. THIS IS IN DISTRICT 5.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022-40 APPROVING THE VACROA 2021-0LE. AND DIESEL ROAD TO VACATE A

[8. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2021-21 Marsh Landing Lot 42 Expansion. Request for a Major Modification to the Marsh Landing PUD (ORD 1975-15, a amended) to incorporate twenty (20) feet of land lying west of Lot 42 into the PUD boundaries to accommodate construction of a single-family home. The Planning and Zoning Agency recommended approval with a 5-0 vote at its January 20, 2022 regular meeting.]

PORTION RIGHT OF WAY. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 5-0.

WE'RE NOW READY FOR ITEM 8 ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM 8. >> STILL GOOD MORNING.

GARY DAVENPORT. SHAD WOOD --

>> MR. CHAIRMAN THIS IS

>> OKAY, THIS IS THE LAST OF OUR EX-PARTE.

COMMISSIONER. >> I DID HAVE A PHONE CALL.

I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH MR. GARY DAVENPORT JANUARY 21 APPROXIMATELY IN THE MORNING WE SPOKE BRIEFLY OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT I AM THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.

I DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE

COMMISSION. >> COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> NONE. >> I HAVE NONE.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? >> NONE.

>> ARNOLD? >> NONE.

>> YES, SIR, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

IF YOU WANT TO START OVER. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> GARY DAVENPORT. SOUTH SHADOW WOOD REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS MR. DAVEY MCGEE.

IT SHOULD BE SIMPLE I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.

IN MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS GOES BACK TO THE '80S OR BEFORE.

AND ZONED PUD AND THE BLUE AREAS THAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE PUD TO THE WEST OF MARSHLAND SOMETHING MOSTLY MARSH BUT THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT GO OUT INTO MARSH THAT WAS NEVER PART OF THE PUD AND OWNED ADD MANY OF THEM WERE LANDLOCKED SO THEY COME UP TO ACCESS THE AND BECAUSE IT WAS LANDLOCKED.

SO THE PARCEL THAT YOU SEE HERE IS ZONED BY OR IS OWNED BY MR. MCGEE. HE OWNS ONE LOT AND HE OWNS A OR LOT OUTSIDE OF THE PUD. CAN YOU SEE HERE AND THE PLATTED LOT IS THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW PIECE AND THEN ALL OF THE DRAWING THAT YOU SEE TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS THE OR PIECE.

ESSENTIALLY, THERE IS AN EASEMENT THROUGH THE PLATTED LOT. YOU HAVE TWO BUILDABLE LOTS, ARE YOU ENTITLED TO ONE HOUSE EACH IN THE AREA.

MR. MCGEE BOUGHT BOTH OF THEM AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND HE WANTS TO BUILD A RELATIVE A HOUSE ON THE PLATTED LOT AND RATHER THAN KIND OF CRAM IT IN BECAUSE IT IS A CONSTRAINED LOT WITH THE WETLANDS TO GET ACCESS, SO, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE SET BACKS HE WANTS TO ADD 20 FEET.

I WORKED WITH THE STAFF TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE BUT SINCE I'M

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ADDING 20 FEET TO A PUD IT IS A MAJOR MODIFICATION AND COME BEFORE THE BOARD. THIS REFERENCES BACK TO A FEW YEARS BACK AND ACTUALLY MR. STOKES OWNED THE PROPERTIES WE CAME IN FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION WITH THE EASEMENT BECAUSE, AGAIN, ACCESS OUTSIDE OF THE PUD, AND MODIFICATIONS.

THIS IS THE SECOND MODIFICATION TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVELOPMENT TWO HOUSES. BUT IT WAS ANTICIPATED ALWAYS THERE WOULD BE A HOUSE OUT THERE.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY GIVES YOU AN IDEA ON THE LOT WHERE THE DEVELOPABLE PART IS AND IT IS PRETTY LARGE OUT THERE.

AND NO WETLANDS WILL BE AFFECTED JUST TO EXPAND THE SET BACKS FOR THE HOUSE THAT IS WITHIN MARSHLAND SO WITH THAT.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 8 TAKING PUBLIC 8 ON NUMBER 8.

>> MR. SLAVIN WELCOME BACK,. >> AND ED SLAVIN.

ST AUGUSTINE. DO NOT APPROVE THE MODIFICATION. YOU HEARD FROM THE DISTINGUISHED INTERNATIONALRY RENOWNED NEUROSURGEON AND OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT TALKING ABOUT THE CONSTANT FLOODING WHICH IS NOT SOLVED AND THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON SOLVING SO PLEASE TABLE THIS OR JUST REJECT IT OUTRIGHT.

PEOPLE TESTIFY ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET TO THEIR MAILBOX BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD WATERS, TRIPPING AND FALLING, BREAKING COLLAR BEEN BONES AND ARMS, PEOPLE NOT GETTING TO THE HOSPITAL OR THE DOCTOR. THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST RIDICULOUS APPLICATION FOR ZONING CHANGE I HAVE EVER HEARD OF. THERE IS NO PUBLIC BENEFIT.

THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL IS THE TOP LAWYER FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD AND THE DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AFFAIRS.

HE SHOULD NOT BE REPRESENTING APPLICANTS BEFORE THE BOARD.

I SPOKE WITH HIM ON JULY 5TH HE SAID HE IS A FULL-TIME FEDERAL EMPLOYEE. HE SAID IT WAS NONE OF OF MY BUSINESS. IT IS THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

WE'RE HERE IN THE ROOM, IN THE BUILDING ON THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS. AND I ASKED HIM BACK ON JULY 5TH , I ASKED HIM AGAIN YESTERDAY, I SENT YOU A NOTICE OF FILING THIS MORNING FOR ANY PERMISSION, WAIVER, LEGAL AUTHORITY FOR GARY DAVENPORT TO REPRESENT APPLICANTS WHERE THIS BCC, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY.

IF THERE WAS, HE WOULD HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION STRAIGHT 211 DAYS AGO. BUT WE DON'T NEED THE PEOPLE, DON'T NEED AND THE APPLICANT DOESN'T NEED THIS APPROVAL.

IT IS BASED ON GREED, IT IS BASED ON INFLUENCE, I WOULD FURTHER NOTE THAT MR. BLOCK SER IN THE NATIONAL GUARD AND MR. DAVENPORT IS HIS BOSS IN THE NATIONAL GUARD.

I LEFT LEFT WORD FOR MR. BLOCKER TO RECUSE AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THE ATTORNEY SENT ME AN E-MAIL LAST NIGHT VERY SHALLOW, NO LEGAL RESEARCH, CONCLUSION AIRY LIKE THE LAST TIME HE ISSUED AN OPINION WITHOUT LEGAL AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER. WE NEED BETTER THAN THAT IN TERMS OF LEGAL ADVICE. WE NEED BETTER IN TERMS OF STAFF. STAFF SHOULD HAVE FLAGGED THIS AS AN ECKICS ISSUE. THEY SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED AN ETHICS OPINION FROM THE FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS AND THE FLORIDA ATTORNEY-GENERAL, SO ABSENT THAT, MOVE TO TABLE OR REJECT THE APPLICATION I DO NOT WANT TO SEE GARY DAVENPORT AGAIN REPRESENT APPLICANTS UNTIL THE ISSUE HAS BEEN STRAIGHTENED OUT AND A STATE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OPINION BECAUSE HE IS THE TOP LAWYER FOR THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD WHO IS REPRESENTING APPLICANTS HERE IN THE COMMISSION.

THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER; THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN T IS

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SPEAK.

GARY DAVENPORT IS NOT MY BOSS IN THE MILITARY.

MAJOR DAVENPORT IS A FELLOW MAJOR KNOW IN MY CHAIN OF COMMAND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR. NORMALLY I WOULD NOT RESPOND LIKE THIS BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU MAKE COMMENTS LIKE THAT.

I APPRECIATE MAJOR DAVENPORT AND I THINK IT IS UNFORTUNATE HIS SERVICE HAS BEEN ATTACKED. A POOR REFLECTION ON ANIMUS WE

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HAVE REFLECTED TOWARD VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE NEED TO CORRECT THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU, LEGAL? >> YES MR. CHAIR, I ALSO WANT TO CHIME IN BECAUSE OF THE COMMENTS JUST MADE.

I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL LAST WEEK I REVIEWED THE SITUATION AND BROUGHT IT TO COMMISSIONER BLOCKERS ATTENTION, WE SPOKE BASED ON MY REVIEW THE PLAIN LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE I DID NOT FEEL IT WAS AN ETHICAL CONFLICT.

NONETHELESS I SUGGESTED MR. BLOCKER MIGHT MAKE A TELEPHONE CALL TO THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS.

HE HAD NO OBJECTION, I DID SPEAK TO GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS YESTERDAY, DISCUSSING THIS MATTER. BASED ON THE PLAIN LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE, THERE IS NO ETHICAL CONFLICT FOR COMMISSIONER BLOCKER ON THIS MATTER.

I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND BASED ON WHAT WAS SAID DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. TO GIVE YOU ALL THE FACTS ON

THAT. >> THANK YOU, DAVID.

WE'VE HAD COMMENTS IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT?

>> THERE IS, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES SIR, I WILL MAKE A

[9. 2022 Roadway and Transportation Alternatives List of Priority Projects (LOPP). The Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) and the North Florida Transportation Planning Organization (TPO) requests project priorities from local governments for potential funding of new transportation projects to be considered for inclusion in the new fiscal year (FY 2027/28) of FDOT’s Work Program. This is an annual recurring request sent to local governments. The St. Johns County Board of County Commissioners is charged with prioritizing all projects within the County, including those within municipal boundaries. The Transportation Advisory Group (TAG), consisting of County staff, representatives of the City of St. Augustine, St. Augustine Beach, St. Johns County School District, St. Johns County Sheriff’s Office, and the St. Augustine-St. Johns County Airport Authority, met on November 19, 2021 to review last year’s priorities and recommend this year’s priorities. The attached LOPP includes TAG's recommendations for both highway and alternatives projects.]

MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2022. >> 11.

>> MAJMOD 2021 LOT 42 EXPANSION BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF

FACT. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON ITEM 8, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES FIVE ÃZERO.OW ITEM 9, ARE YOU PRESENTING

THIS? >> YES SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT THIS IS TRANSPORTATION PLANNING

SECRETARY. >> CAN I STILL SAY GOOD MORNING? SO, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.FOR THE RECORD PHONG NGUYEN, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU, IS THE 2022 ROADWAY AND TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THIS IS A LONG FUNDING CONSIDERATION BUT IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS PROCESS THROUGH THE YEARS, WE RECEIVED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TERMS OF ROADWAY FUNDING. SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS COUNTY ST. JOHNS COUNTY 2022 LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS, SO WE CAN TRANSMIT THAT TO THE TPO AND EVENTUALLY GO TO DOT FOR FUNDING CONSIDERATION.

THIS FUNDING CONSIDERATION IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27/28.

IT IS NOT ANYTHING IMMEDIATE. BUT IT COULD EVENTUALLY COME DOWN IF THEY HAVE ANY DISCRETION DOLLARS, THEY WOULD ALSO PROVIDE THAT TO US. SO WE WENT THROUGH TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY GROUP, WHICH PROVIDED OVER THE YEARS, AS ADVISORY TO WITH STAFF IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH THIS LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS, THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TAG LISTED ABOVE THERE, WE MET NOVEMBER 19 LAST YEAR TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS AND RECOMMEND THIS YEAR'S 2022 LOPP. THE OBJECTIVE AGAIN, IS TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS FOR FUNDING CONSIDERATION IN FISCAL YEAR 28. SO THE LOPP CONSISTS OF TWO PROGRAMS. THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM INCLUDING PREGIONAL PROJECTS. SO THE REGIONAL PROJECT LIST IS A COMPETITIVE LIST AMONG THE OTHER THREE COUNTIES.

NASSAU, DUVAL AND -- WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROJECT BASICALLY FOR SCHOOL, SIDEWALKS TO SCHOOL AND TRAILS.

SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ADOPTED LIST IN 2021.

AND THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED LIST SO YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES THERE, PRIMARILY WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDED PROJECTS WHICH IS THE TOP THREE LIST UP THERE, THE ONE IN YELLOW BASICALLY PCURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AT THIS TIME WE ASKED TO REMOVE THAT.

THE BALANCE OF THE REGIONAL PROJECT LIST, YOU CAN SEE THERE THE ONE WE HAVE DONE THIS YEAR, AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF FDOT, IS THAT WE CAN COMBINE SEVERAL PROJECTS INTO ONE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER TWO, WE COMBINED FIVE, SIX AND 13 INTO PROJECT NUMBER TWO.

THE REST WILL BASICALLY, MOVE UP ON THE LIST AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT WE HAVE ASKED IS TO MOVE STATE ROAD 207, AND MODIFY THAT FROM THE INTERCHANGE TO STATE ROAD 312.

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AND WE MOVED THAT UP TO NUMBER SEVEN.

AND THIS YEAR, THEY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL FIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE CIP. AND THIS IS THE MAP DEPICTING THE LOCATION OF HIS PROJECTS, YOU CAN SEE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THIS IS THE CURRENT 2021 APPROVED PROJECTS LIST OF 13 PROJECTS THEY ARE, WE BASICALLY REMOVED ONE OF THE APPROVED PROJECTS OR FUNDED PROJECTS AND THAT IS BASICALLY ALMOST COMPLETED BY NOW.

AT US1 AND WILDWOOD. AND WE ADDED ONE MORE PROJECT IS NUMBER 14. AND HERE IS THE MAP DEPICTING THE LOCATIONS OF THE PROJECTS. AND THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROJECTS, THIS IS THE CURRENT APPROVED PROJECTS FOR 2021. IN 2022, WE BASICALLY REARRANGED THE PROJECTS THREE THROUGH FIVE, REVERSED THE ORDER. THE REASON FOR THAT, IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MOVE THE NORTH A1A TRAIL UP TO LIST AS PART OF THE NEXT SON TRAIL PROPOSAL FOR FUNDING.

I PROVIDE ON THIS PRESENTATION THE TOP FIVE REGIONAL PROJECTS YOU CAN SEE THE STATUS UPDATE IN TERMS OF FUNDING.

AND THIS IS STATE ROAD 212 EXTENSION FORMERLY KNOWN AS STATE ROAD 313. IT STRETCHES FROM NORTH OF US1 DOWN TO STATE ROAD 312 AND 207. AND TO DATE IT HAS BEEN FUNDED IN ABOUT 37 MILLION. MOST OF THAT WENT TO ACQUISITION OF RIGHTS-OF-WAY SO CURRENTLY, THE LOWER PORTION, WHICH WHICH IS REALLY STRETCHES FROM 207 TO 16 BASICALLY, WE HAVE THE ADEQUATE RIGHTS-OF-WAY TO DO THAT.

THAT ENABLES US TO BASICALLY, HAVE THE FIRST MILE WHICH YOU'VE SEEN A PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, THE FIRST MILE WOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY BY THE SUMMER.

IT IS FULLY FUNDED AND IS ABOUT $14 MILLION.

AND HERE IS A MAP SHOWING THAT AND HERE IS THE DESIGN SO YOU CAN SEE THE DESIGN OF THE ROADWAY.

SO YOU WOULD SEE THIS BE A ROUND ABOUT CONNECTING WITH THIS FIRST MILE. THE NEXT PROJECT IS COUNTY ROAD FEBRUARY 2, 2009, YO-- THE NEXT IS COUNTY ROAD 2209, THIS GOES FROM COUNTY ROAD NINE BEACHES STATE ROAD 16.

AS YOU ARE AWARE THE FOUR LANE IS COMPLETED FROM 9B TO SILVERLEAF AND FROM SILVERLEAF DOWN TO 16, WE HAVE RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND A FROM -- TO 16 IN ORDER TO MOVE RD WITH CONSTRUCTION AND THAT IS WHAT THE FUNDING IS REQUESTING.

THE NEXT PROJECT YOU CAN SEE IS RACETRACK ROAD, THE THIRD ONE ON THE LIST IS ACK ROAD, A SHORT EEN -- PARK TO THE SPRINGS CURRENTLY THE ONLY ON TRACK ROAD.

JOR COST THAT L BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS, IS CROSSING OF I-95. DOT HAS ALREADY PROGRAMMED THAT AS PART OF THE I-95 WIDENING TO THE 10 LANES.

THEY BASICALLY WILL DROP IN A SIX LANE OVERPASS, BUT STRIKE OUT AS A FOUR LANE AND THEN EXTEND BOTH SIDES TO THE EAST TO FOUR LANES AND WEST TO EAST PEYTON PARKWAY.

SO THE ONLY REMAINING PORTION IS EAST PAYTON PARKWAY TO -- PARK BOULEVARD. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE MISSING WE KNOW THAT THIS IS BASICALLY RECENTLY HAD APPROVAL FROM DUVAL FOR THE TIF ON THEIR LAND IN ORDER TO INITIATE THE FUNDING FOR THE LANES. AND THEN WE HAVE A1A INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FROM MARCH LENDING TO -- AND THIS IS LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY FIVE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TUNE OF ABOUT $17 MILLION. AND WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDING FOR

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THE FIRST PORTION WHICH IS ASICALLY FROM MARSH LANDING DOWN TO PROFESSIONAL DRIVE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IT NOT BE FUNDED IN FISCAL YEAR 25. AND THAT WE ALSO LOOKING AT -- ROAD AND STATE ROAD A1A, WHICH THROUGH THE APPROPRIATION OF THE LEGISLATURE, WE RECEIVED $1.6 MILLION AND WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL MILLION FROM PREVIOUS YEARS SO WE ARE READY TO MOVE TO CONSTRUCTION OF THIS INTERSECTION.

FROM WHAT OUR STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, WE ARE RESOLVING THE CHECKPOINTS AND EVENTUALLY WILL COME BACK AND LOOK AT FUNDING CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE OTHER THREE INTERSECTIONS BETWEEN. ALSO THE EXPRESS WAY YOU CAN SEE IS MOVING FORWARD. IN GREEN COAST SPRINGS ARE CONSTRUCTING AND HEADING OUR WAY VERY SOON.

WE ANTICIPATE COMMENCEMENT WITHIN THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AREA SPRING OF 2023. IT IS FULLY FUNDED, INCLUDING THE BRIDGE. A COST OF ABOUT 377 MILLION CURRENTLY APPROPRIATED IN THE DOT WORK ORDER.

AND ALSO, WE REMOVE THIS PROJECT FROM OUR LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS. AT STATE ROAD 16 AND I-95, BECAUSE IT IS FUNDED AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL FUTURE PHASES WE WILL TALK IN AS WELL.

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVAL.

FROM OUR RECOMMENDED LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS.

THIS IS THE REGIONAL LIST AND THEN, THIS IS THE LOCAL PRIORITY PROJECTS LIST, 14 PROJECTS.

I INADVERTENTLY MISSED A PROJECT THAT DOT HAD REQUESTED TO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION ON STATE ROAD 16 AT STRATTON AND INDUSTRY CENTER. THEY ARE READY TO FUND THAT, APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION IN ORDER TO DO THAT INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT. AND HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN OF THIS. SO BASICALLY, YOU WILL SEE THAT LET ME SEE WHICH ONE IT IS. THIS IS STRATTON BOULEVARD.

CURRENTLY, THIS IS A OPENING. THIS CENTER IS ALSO A FULL OPENING FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHERS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE.

LOOKING AT PROVIDING A RESTRICTED MEETING OPENING LEFT AT STRATTON THE SAME AS AT INDUSTRY.

AND THEN THEY WILL PROVIDE FURTHER EAST OF INDUSTRY CENTER, THEY WILL PROVIDE A U-TURN THAT HAS A SIGNAL.

AND SAME THING, SIMILAR TO AT STRATTON, JUST WEST OF THAT, THEY WILL ALSO PROVIDE A U-TURN WITH SIGNALS.

THAT SHOULD HELP THE FLOW AND REDUCE FATALITY FOR THIS CORRIDOR. I ASK THAT YOU INCLUDE THAT AS WELL. TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROJECTS LIST. AND WITH THAT, I AM ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. SO THAT WE CAN SEND THIS TO TDO AND DOT. CHRIS BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT, IS STRATTON INCLUDED? WE NEED AN AMENDMENT TO ADD STRATTON BECAUSE I'VE GOT A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THERE, SAFETY ISSUES AND I CERTAINLY WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.

DO WE NEED TO ADD IT OR IS IT INCLUDED IN THIS MOTION?>> PLEASE ADD THAT TO THE LIST. IN THE LOCAL PROJECT LIST AS NUMBER 15. YEAH.

>> SO IT IS ADDED? >> YES.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT? >> YES SIR.

NOW WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE. AGENDA ITEM 9.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD AFTERNOON. [INAUDIBLE] WHERE IS THE TRANSIT IN THIS PLAN? THE CAPTION ON THE ITEM SAYS ALTERNATIVES. I DON'T SEE ANY ALTERNATIVES.

I DON'T SEE ANY TRANSIT. KIND OF REMINDED ME OF THE VERY FIRST TIME I HEARD JIM HIGHTOWER SPEAK IN NASHVILLE.

AT THE STATE UNIVERSITY. AND HE SAID THEY ARE STEALING THE ALTERNATIVES FOLKS. WHY IS THIS PLAN STILL DISCUSSING PUTTING A ROAD THROUGH 12 MILES LONG?

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THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND WHICH OUR CHAIRMAN HENRY DEAN AND LATE -- FROM WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT YEARS AGO IT'S A PRIME PIECE OF LAND AND SHOULD NOT BE WITH ANOTHER ROAD I'VE RAISED THIS REPEATEDLY AT CITY AND COUNTY MEETINGS FOR SIX YEARS NEVER A RESPONSE. WE NEED AN ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY COMMISSION JUST LIKE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

WE NEED STAFF THAT IS EMPOWERED TO SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DESTROY ANY MORE PUBLIC LANDS WITH ANY MORE ROADS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE OUR PLANET, WHAT DID THE POPE SAY? TURNING THE EARTH INTO A PIECE OF FILTH.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND THAT IS WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU LAST TUESDAY.

IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP.

AND I THINK THERE IS CORRUPTION INVOLVED HERE SPECIFICALLY 2209. THE FAMILY THE SILVERLEAF

DEVELOPMENT. >> I WANT TO MERGE YOU MAY NOT MAKE ANY SLANDEROUS -- QUESTION IS NOT SLANDEROUS SON AND YOU ARE NOT A LAWYER DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHEN I'M TALKING.

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY SAY IT AFTER I'M DONE DON'T TAKE MY TIME. YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER! ANYWAY IT REMINDS ME OF MEMPHIS WHERE CRUMP FOR YEARS AND YEARS MADE SURE ALL THE ROADS IN MEMPHIS WERE EAST-WEST AND NOT NORTH-SOUTH. BECAUSE OF INTEREST.

WE ARE DESTROYING PUBLIC LAND, BENEFITING THE SENATOR AND THERE IS NO TRANSIT.AND WORST OF ALL, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS COMMISSION DOUBLED THE AFFAIRS FOR THE ONLY TRANSIT SYSTEM WE HAVE. COA BUSES, SUNSHINE BUS COMPANY, HENRY DEAN DISSENTED IT WAS A FOUR ÃONE VOTE.

DOUBLED AFFAIRS. LET'S MAKE AFFAIRS ON THE SUNSHINE BUS FREE LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PLACES.

LET'S RESTORE THE TROLLEY SYSTEM THAT THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE HAD UNTIL 1928. SO PEOPLE CAN GET FROM HERE TO THERE WITHOUT DESTROYING THE PLANET AND TURNING INTO A FACE OF FILTH. LET'S LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES TO HIGHWAY BUILDING. AND LET'S DO IT NOW.

LET'S NOT KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN.

LET'S NOT BE INTERRUPTING PEOPLE WHEN THEY ENGAGE IN FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED ACTIVITY.

IT IS RUDE, VULGAR, UNCONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE? WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD AFTERNOON I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE PERMITTING MS. LISA -- 11 703 PINEHURST PLACE.

I AM ONE OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY OUNCIL MEMBERS THAT YOU APPOINTED TO SERVE ON THE NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION NG ORGANIZATION. FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THE GREAT JOB THAT THEY HAVE DONE PUTTING TOGETHER THAT AMAZING LIST OF ALL THE PROJECT AND TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THE CARS AND TRANSPORTATION AND BUILDING GOING ON.

IT IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE DOCUMENT.

MY JOB I THINK IS TO BRING TRANSPARENCY AND INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROCESS OF WHAT IS BEING FUNDED AND THE ROADS ARE BEING WORKED ON, BOTH TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY, PARTICULARLY THE AREA I LIVE IN, THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY. AND USUALLY WHEN I STAND BEFORE YOU, I TRY REALLY HARD TO BRING YOU SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'M NOT SURE I'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT TODAY BUT I WILL TRY.

FIRST, THE FOCUS ON FUNDING FOR THE TRAILS AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE VILLANO TO PONTE VEDRA TRAIL IS MUCH APPRECIATED.

I THINK THE A1A SCENIC CORRIDOR IS ONE OF THE JEWELS IN OUR CROWN AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS ADDITION DONE. IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND GREAT FOR ECOTOURISM.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS THAT WHILE I KNOW THAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT PRIORITIZING OUR COUNTY REQUEST TO THE NORTH EAST FLORIDA, FOR THE NORTH EAST FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS, I HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT THE SYSTEM IS BIASED TOWARDS CARS.

AND I DO THINK WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN START MOVING PEOPLE, NOT JUST CARS BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO JUST KEEP BUILDING ROADS.

WE HAVE TO TURN OUR ATTENTION TO OTHER THINGS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO LOOK AT IS WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT ROAD 207 TODAY.

I NOTICED IN THE PAPER THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THE MEDICAL FACILITIES COMING TO ROUTE 207.

THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO WIDENING 207 TO 6 LANES.AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT WITH ALL OF THESE NEW AMENITIES COMING ON 207 AND

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PEOPLE NOT HAVING TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE 312 INTERSECTION, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED IT WIDENED TO SIX LANES.

ONE OF THE OTHER JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WIDENING IT, IS BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH SPEED GOING ON.

EVERY ROAD THAT IS SIX LANES I'VE BEEN ON SEEMS TO BE ABLE BIGGER SPEEDWAY THAN ROSE ARE ONLY TWO LANES.

I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

ALSO, EVERYBODY THAT I KNOW THANKS, WHEN THE WORLD WILL WE DO WITH ALL OF THOSE CARS COMING DOWN TO 312 AND DOWN TO 312 AND ROUTE ONE? THAT WILL BE A DISASTER.

AND I KNOW THAT THE IDEA IS TO MOVE THOSE CARS UP TO THE 313 AND THEN OVER TO MOULTRIE ROAD BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WILL HAPPEN NOW JUST ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT AND THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO FORWARD, THE BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON THERE IS TREMENDOUS. I HAVE MORE TO SAY BUT MY TIME

IS UP. >> YES MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES SIR, MR. --

>> LIKE I SAID LAST MEETING I DO NOT ENVY YOUR JOB, PHONG.

>> CHUCK -- I HAVE A CONCERN IF I UNDERSTAND THIS LIST PROPERLY. YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE 9B DOWN TO 16, WHERE THE TRAFFIC GOING TO GO ON 16? 16 HAS BEEN DROPPED DOWN TO NUMBER FIVE ON THE LIST, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, 16 IS NOT ADEQUATE NOW.

WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THERE, IT WILL BE OVER, WE OVERCAPACITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TAKING SOUTH FRANCIS TO GET AROUND. SOUTH FRANCIS IS PACKED NOW.

A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT 30 MILE AN HOUR ZONE, A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE.

AGAIN, WE NEED TO GET 16 BACK UP IN THE PARTY LIST.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS DOWN AND WE ARE DUMPING MORE TRAFFIC ONTO 16.

WE NEED HELP. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM 9? PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 9? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER NINE. >> WE COME BACK TO THE BOARD, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENT OR IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR.

>> GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> SRI MOVED TO APPROVE 2022 ST. JOHNS COUNTY ROADWAY AND TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES LIST PRIORITIES PROJECT OTHERWISE KNOWN AS LOPP PEER FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING

ORGANIZATION. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND TO REQUEST MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

>> MR. CHAIR, TO CLARIFY THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE ADDITION THAT MR. PHONG NGUYEN TALKED ABOUT TO INCLUDE 15 ON THE LOCAL PRIORITY LIST. THANK YOU.

>> AS AMENDED. PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES FIVE ÃZERO. THE GERMAN WHO SPOKE LAST UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR, I WANT TO SAY TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

WHEN I-DRIVE 16 FROM OUTLET MALLS UP TO -- [INAUDIBLE] IT'S LIKE I DON'T KNOW, I TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT HOW SOON WE CHEDULE GETTING THAT G THAT ENTIRE STRETCH FOUR LANE BECAUSE IT'S CRAZY. OF COURSE IT IS NOT THE ONLY CRAZY ONE BUT IT IS PRETTY BAD. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?

>> YES, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST FOR HIS RATIONALISM AS VICE CHAIR.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION, DOES THE BOARD HAVE RULES AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THE BOARD? [INAUDIBLE]

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE DO HAVE RULES ON DECORUM AND CIVILITY AND I WILL ALSO SAY, I'VE LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE IN THE PAST AND FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT, AND SIMILAR RULES HAVE BEEN UPHELD ELSEWHERE. THERE IS A CASE OF COCOA BEACH, A CASE OUT OF KEY WEST, BUT CIVILITY AND DECORUM ARE PART OF THE PROCESS AND IF YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR RULES AND

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SEE IF YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE UPDATED, WE CAN DO THAT.

IF YOU SIMPLY WANT A REFRESHER ON THE RULES WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING OR ONE ON ONE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST -- I WILL ALSO DOUBLE CHECK THE LOT TO SEE IT HAS NOT CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE I LAST RESEARCHED THIS. BUT THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM BUT THERE IS THE NECESSITY TO HAVE ORDER MAINTAINED AND PROPER DECORUM IS LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE. SO, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR

QUESTION? >> YES IT DID AND I FOLLOW, DO THE RULES INCLUDE RESTRICTIONS ON BOISTEROUS, RUDE AND

DISPARAGING COMMENTS? >> MY RECOLLECTION IS YES THEY

DO. >> WHAT WAS COMMENTED ON WHEN THE SPEAKER LEFT WAS THAT IT VIOLATED THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY COURT PROCEEDING OR LAW THAT HAS UPHELD THAT? DO THESE VIOLATE THE FIRST

AMENDMENT? >> NO IN FACT IT IS THE OPPOSITE. LITTLE DISCLAIMER THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IT WAS LAST I LOOKED BUT I'M CERTAIN NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

TWO SEPARATE CASES IN FLORIDA HAVE HAD ALMOST EXACT SAME FACTS. WHERE THE COURT UPHELD THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ABILITY TO HAVE THE REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS TO NOT MAKE VIEWPOINT-BASED BUT TO MAINTAIN DECORUM AND CIVILITY, WHICH IS WHAT OUR RULES DO.

I BELIEVE OUR RULES ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FIRST

AMENDMENT. >> I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE A VICE CHAIR TRYING TO REIN IN -- IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO DO THAT AND NOT TALK OVER.

THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR AND MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> MR. TRENT EIGHT? ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, ON PAGE NUMBER TWO OF E BEGINNING, WHEN ALKED ABOUT SOUTH FLORIDA COUNTY, R11 AND R14 WERE DONE IN 2014 NINE YEARS IT WOULD NOT LD NOT APPROVE THEM AND QUITE FRANKLY O HAVE NOT MOVED FAR UP THE LIST.

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SO BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT AS A COUNTY OURSELVES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NO OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME,

-- >> WHAT WERE THE NUMBERS AGAIN,

PAUL? >> R11 AND R14.

>> THAT COMPLETES THE REGULAR AGENDA.

AT THIS POINT WILL GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT ON THE CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA. THREE MINUTES, NAME AND ADDRESS

AND WE WILL BEGIN. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

[INAUDIBLE] I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OFF WHAT WE DID THIS MORNING WITH THE PROCLAMATION ON BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT OUR HEARTS ARE OPEN AND WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, WE ARE A TOLERANT SOCIETY HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND I WOULD CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS SINCE AT LEAST 1995, DISTRIBUTED FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT DAVIS, WHO WAS A SHERIFF 1949 UNTIL 1971.

AND IT STILL STATES, AND I WROTE THE SHERIFF BACK ON AUGUST 28 OF 2013, THE UNIVERSITY OF DOCTOR KINGS I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH. POINTING OUT THAT NO, DAVIS WAS NOT EXONERATED BY FLORIDA STATE.

IN FACT DAVIS WAS REMOVED BY THE FLORIDA STATE SENATE.

BY VOTE OF 44 ÃTWO. THE SHERIFF NEVER RESPONDED TO THAT. THE SHERIFF HARDWICK HAS NEVER RESPONDED TO THAT.I WROTE SHERIFF SURE ABOUT IT, HE TOOK OUT ONE THING THIS IS DOCTOR KING WAS ARRESTED HERE BY FEDERAL AGENTS BUT IT STILL SAYS THAT DAVIS HELD THE TOWN TOGETHER AND DAVIS WAS SOMEHOW EXONERATED BY THE FLORIDA STATE SENATE THAT REMOVED HIM.HAT IS NOT CIVILITY.

THAT IS FALSE AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ANIMUS IS, I FEEL QUITE A LOT OF IT FROM THE VICE CHAIRMAN HERE WHO HAS SINCE HIS FIRST DAY ON THE COMMISSION, REPEATEDLY INTERRUPTED ME AND SHOWN ANIMUS. IT IS WRONG.

AND AS FAR AS CIVILITY GOES, PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH GENTLEMEN. AND LADY.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY YOU INTERRUPT SPEAKERS SOMETIMES, AND THE WAY THAT YOU BULLY PEOPLE.

THAT'S GOT TO STOP. WE NEED TO HAVE CIVILITY, AND SPEAKING OF CIVILITY, THIS MORNING SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD FRONT PAGE ARTICLE. RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL ERNESTO JUAN -- SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH COMMISSIONER JUST RESIGNED. HIS WIFE WAS PULLED OVER FOR DUI. HE INTERFERED WITH THE OFFICERS. HE INSULTED THE OFFICERS.

HE PULLED RANK WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY DO

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SOMETIMES AND NEED TO BE CALLED ON IT.

MY FATHER TOLD ME JUST AS JFK'S FATHER TOLD HIM, THAT IF YOU DON'T STAND UP TO PEOPLE WITH POWER, THEY WALK ALL OVER YOU.

IF THE VICE CHAIRMAN HAS A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING I AM

SAYING. >> I WANT TO REMIND YOU COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE NOT TO ANY

INDIVIDUAL. >> I'M ADDRESSING THE BOARD.

IF THE VICE CHAIRMAN HAS A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING I'M SAYING, HE SHOULD -- LET THERE BE A RULING AND LET

ME BE HEARD. >> EVERYONE SHOULD FOLLOW THE

SAME RULES. >> DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.

MR. CHAIRMAN I OBJECT TO YOUR CONDUCT.

>> FIVE SECONDS. >> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU DID WITH THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH, PLEASE SOMEONE TALK TO

THE SHERIFF. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> WE ARE ON? THANK YOU.

BJ -- [INAUDIBLE] IN THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE CITY LIMITS, PARCEL NUMBER 210260-0000 IS OWNED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

SINCE 2016, IT HAS GONE THE COUNTY LIST AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NOTHING, NOTHING HAS BEEN BUILT. I GUESS IT'S NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING ON THAT. LET ME ENCOURAGE ALL TAXPAYERS TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE BCC GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 25, 2022.

TOO OFTEN, ONE MAY LISTEN BUT NOT HERE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. UNFORTUNATELY, QUOTE, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND QUOTE PIERCE'S GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT HAS NOT BEEN PUT BACK BEFORE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. WHERE ONGS.

IN WORD O CONSIDER, PRIDE.IS A VERY INTERESTING WORD.

WE ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? NOW IS THE TIME. HI MS. CROSBY, WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. NICOLE CROSBY, 1169 -- PONTEVEDRA. TWO WEEKS OF THE COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO PASS A BALLOON RELEASE BAND TO PROTECT ROD APPEARED CHAIRMAN DEAN SAID THE EXISTENCE OF THE ORDINANCE CAN PREVENT BLOOM RELEASES FROM TAKING PLACE.

THE FIRST RESIDENCE MUST FIRST BE AWARE OF THE ORDINANCE CRITICAL TO BECOME A COUNTY STAFF HAS REFUSED TO DO A PRESS RELEASE ABOUT THE BALLOON RELEASE BAND.

THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS WROTE, WERE NOT PLANNING TO ISSUE A PRESS RELEASE AT THIS TIME.

A FACEBOOK MEME WAS CREATED THAT SHE CLAIMS SUBSTITUTES FOR PRESS RELEASE THAT HAS NO LINK TO THE ORDINANCE OR MEDIA CONTACT. IT CANNOT BE FOUND IN SEARCH ENGINES, NOT SENT TO LOCAL MEDIA ELLIS AND NOT RESULTED IN ANY SIGNIFICANT COVERAGE. ONE TV NEWS REPORT AT ANOTHER STATION WITH A TRANSCRIPT OF THE REPORT RESULTED FROM A REPORTER CONTRACTING LAST MONTH THROUGHOUT SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD HAD TWO ARTICLES ABOUT THE BALLOON RELEASE BAND THE CITY JUST 15 SQUARE MILES, IT IS PROVIDED ZERO COVERAGE ABOUT SUCH A BAN IN THE ENTIRE 822 SQUARE MILE COUNTY.

WHEN GALVESTON PASSED THE BALLOON RELEASE PANNA COTTA PRESS RELEASE AND THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE.

SHE WROTE A PRESS RELEASE DID NOT GUAANTEE NEWS OUTLET WILL COVER A STORY. WHY DID SHE USE THEM FOR ANYBODY? SHE SUGGESTS I SPOKE TO THE RECORD AND ASK WHETHER OR NOT COVERED IT BECAUSE EVEN THAT HER JOB? SHE SAYS HER NAME IS LIKE A PRESS RELEASE AND THIS IS MY FIELD AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, A MEME IS NOT JUST LIKE A PRESS RELEASE.

SHE SAID THE ORDINANCE HAD RECEIVED ENOUGH PRESS.

NOW IF IT DOES NOT SAY THAT SOMEONE WAS TO MINIMIZE THE EXPOSURE OF THE STORY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES.

ANY PR PERSON THIS IS ONE STORIES NEVER REFUSES TO SEND OUT A PRESS RELEASE IS EITHER INCOMPETENT OR FOLLOWING ORDERS. COULD IT BE SHE WAS TOLD TO NOT SEND ONE OUT TO MINIMUS ANY PUBLIC EXPOSURE? FROM THE COVERAGE OF THE STORY, IS A COUNTY MINISTER TAKING DIRECTIVES FROM AN INFLUENTIAL DEVELOPER? WHO HAS BEEN ON MY CASES ARE RARE FOR THE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THIS DEVELOPER RAISED MAJORITY OF THE $42,000 DEVELOPERS AND PACKS DON'T NEED TO STOP ME.

AT THE TIME ONE OF YOU SAID YOU ARE -- THAT DEVELOPER RAISED

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HIS OWN RULES AND SINCE ATTEMPTED TO WRITE ME TO THE POSITION I WAS FAIRLY ELECTED TO WITH HIS LEGISLATION.

I'M ASKING ONCE AGAIN BEFORE THIS STORIES OUT OF DATE, FOR THE COUNTY TO ISSUE A BONA FIDE PRESS RELEASE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE CONTACT THE NEWSPAPER OF RECORD SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD. IF YOU HAVE A PRESS RELEASE FOR A PIPE LADEN PONTEVEDRA OFFER EXTENDED OFFICE HOURS FOR AN OFFICIAL, SURELY YOU CAN HAVE ONE FOR A COUNTYWIDE BALLOON RELEASE BAN MEANT TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THREATENED, ENDANGERED AND UNCRITICALLY ENDANGERED SPECIES OF TURTLE, THAT NEST ON OUR SHORES. GREEN TURTLES ON ITS WAY TO EXTINCTION. IT SHOULD NOT BE A POLITICAL

FOOTBALL IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. >> ANY OTHER FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? COMMISSIONER --

>> I WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED THIS TO BE REACHED OUT AS ADDITIONAL COMMISSION I WOULD MAKE SURE WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT. I JUST THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US NOT TO CALL IN STAFF, STAFF WORKS FOR US BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION BUT AGAIN, STAFF WORKS FOR THE BOARD AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL COMMUNICATE, I VOTED FOR AND

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SUPPORTED THIS. WE COULD HAVE TALKED AND FIGURED IT OUT. THAT IS MY COUNTER TO YOUR POINT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE ARE ALL CLOSED. >> THAT BRINGS US TO COMMISSION REPORTS. COMMISSIONER REPORTS.

LET ME START ON MY RIGHT TODAY, LET'S GO OVER TO DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, LET'S HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. THE ONLY THING ON MY MIND TODAY, WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILIES OF THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST ON THE ACCIDENT AND COUNTY ROAD 210 LAST WEEK. THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES WELL, YOU LOST A GREAT TEAM. AND THE ACCIDENT IN PARTICULAR BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, I GUESS TO BUILD UPON WHAT THE SHERIFF SAID THAT PERHAPS, I TALKED TO STEFAN I WANT TO STAND UP AND INITIATIVE WERE PERHAPS TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN DIFFERENT AGENCIES OR DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS. WE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING, BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO BE INFORMED WHEN SOMETHING POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS.

I KNOW I'M NEW AND THERE IS PROTOCOL FOR HURRICANE BUT IN SOMETHING LIKE A SITUATIONS FOOD I WOULD LIKE TO POSSIBLY HAVE THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO TALK WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND SEE IF WE CAN'T COME UP WITH A STRENGTHENED COMMUNICATION.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ONLY THING I HAVE, WE KNOW LAST YEAR ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS THERE WAS A LOT OF LASHING OUT AT OUR SOLID WASTE PICKUP SERVICES. BOTH IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH END OF THE COUNTIES. I THINK WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH IN THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTIES.

REPUBLIC SERVICES, SINCE THEY CANCELED THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY IN ONE INSTANCE, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS SORT OF A SKINNY ROAD, THEY WERE NEIGHBORS FIGHTING WITH NEIGHBORS, THERE WERE NEIGHBORS COMING TO ME IS THERE COMMISSIONER, SEEKING A SOLUTION.

I WANT TO COMMEND REPUBLIC SERVICES FOR SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE RESIDENTS, WANT TO COMMEND GREG CALDWELL IN THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM FOR TAKING A LOT OF TIME WITH YOU KNOW, A FEW DOZEN RESIDENTS AND HOUSES BACK THERE. THEY HELD SORT OF A TOWN HALL ON THE STREET, IT WAS FACE-TO-FACE, OPPOSING POINTS OF VIEW. AND THROUGH GOOD OLD-FASHIONED CONVERSATION, THAT WAS PERHAPS UNCOMFORTABLE AT TIMES, THINK WE CAME TO A SOLUTION THAT WORKS.

I GOT AN EMAIL SINCE THAT POINT FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE TELLING ME THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING BEAUTIFULLY AND THEY ARE HAPPY WE ALL CAME OUT AND I TELL THEM LOOK, I WAS BUT A FLY ON THE WALL AT THAT MEETING, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ASKED ME TO ATTEND, BUT GREG CALDWELL, BILL BRICKLEY FROM REPUBLIC SERVICES REALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO TO MAKE RESIDENTS HAPPY AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME AS A COMMISSIONER. JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> YES SIR MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW NEVER THAT EASY. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP A COUPLE OF THINGS FROM OUR MEETING LAST WEEK.

AND MAKE SURE STAFF HAS CLEAR VISION OF WHAT Y'ALL WANT.

NUMBER ONE THING WAS A MULTIPLIER ON A PROPORTION FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT. I THINK WE HAD A LOT OF HEADSHAKING BUT NEVER DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT.

IF WE COULD HAVE -- TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR.

THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO AND THE SECOND THING WAS ON

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COMMUNITY MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

BY DEVELOPERS, AND IT IS TOUGH ON STAFF BUT WE DO IT NORTHWEST AND GET A LOT OF THINGS ANSWERED AND DONE AHEAD OF TIME. AND ALSO, I KNOW HAS STAFF CHECK ON IT, WE DID APPROVE AN EXTENDED ANNOUNCEMENT AREA WHICH I THINK WE GOT THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT, HOPEFULLY.

YOU KNOW GET NOTIFICATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE TWO THINGS AND MAKE SURE STAFF HAS CLEAR DIRECTION.

>> LET ME ASK IF WE CAN DO THIS FIRST BY CONSENSUS.

I THOUGHT WE DID HAVE CONSENSUS WE WOULD LOOK INTO THIS MULTIPLIER. I THINK WILL ASK STEPH TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.

>> ASKED HER IF I COULD GET A NOD OF HEADS. WE HAVE DIRECTION WE WILL LOOK AT THE MULTIPLIER AND GET YOU A PAPER RESPONSE.

>> I THINK EACH COMMISSIONER SHOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER REACHING OUT TO HIS DISTRICT TO HAVE WORKSHOPS AS NEEDED, WERE

YOU CONSIDERING -- >> NO, SIR, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS WHEN UNDER NORTHWEST FLORIDA COUNTY IF THEY ARE HAVING A CHANGE OR ANYTHING, PUD, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE INITIATED SOUTH FLORIDA COUNTY, WHERE EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AND HAVE A CHANCE TO FIND OUT.

>> I WOULD AGREE. >> I CONSIDER GOOD PORTION SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY. I AGREE WITH YOU.

NOT SURE HOW WE CAN, -- >> MAYBE COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT? >> MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, RELATED TO THE OBVIOUSLY IS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD AND FOR CLARIFICATION YOU MEAN NORTHEAST, SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST. IF SO, SAME THING, WE WILL GET YOU A REPORTED WHITE PAPER THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL FTE AND STAFF REQUIREMENT WHICH YOU ADDRESSED.

BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION OF AN ESTIMATED TIME COST FOR STAFF MEMBER OR MULTIPLE STAFF MEMBERS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WE CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU IF YOU WANT ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON IT ONCE WE GET YOU THE REPORT.

>> AND LASTLY, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS OF SUMMER HAVEN HAVE COME TO ME AND THEY ARE WILLING TO HIRE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR, -- THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE OUR PERMIT BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW IF WE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ISSUES AND I'VE ASKED AND TALK TO MR. ABOUT THAT.

IF WE CAN HEAR FROM STAFF WHAT WE NEEDED, NO WE APPLIED FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE PERMIT BUT HAVE NOT GOTTEN IT YET.

>> LET ME WEIGH IN, I SUPPORT THAT ON MY BEHALF HAVING WORKED WITH SUMMER HAVEN RESIDENCE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

THE ORIGINAL BREACH. YOU COULD WEIGH IN ON THIS.

>> WORKING WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO EXTEND THE PERMIT, SHORTLY AFTER THE BREACH WE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO GET THE PROCESS IN MOTION. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO USE OUR PERMIT AND I BELIEVE IT'S POSSIBLE, I BELIEVE CERTAINLY LEGAL WILL HAVE TO CRAFT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE THEM

POSSIBLE. >> IS THERE A WAY WE CAN GET THE AGREEMENT READY TO GO AS THE PERMIT COMES AVAILABLE?

>> WE CAN PREPARE AN AGREEMENT, JUST TO THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS, THERE ARE OF COURSE, CONCERNS WHENEVER THE COUNTY WOULD DELEGATE SOME AMOUNT OF ITS PERMIT RESPONSIBILITIES TO A THIRD PARTY BECAUSE WE WILL STILL BE ON THE HOOK THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT LIABILITY IF A THIRD PARTY IS NOT FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS RATHER THAN IF THE COUNTY DIRECTED A PROJECT, THEY'D BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT ON THE FRONT END.

BUT IF IT IS THE BOARDS DISCRETION OR DIRECTION, WE CAN

PREPARE AN AGREEMENT. >> I WAS TO REQUIRE THEM TO

HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE. >> FOR SURE.

>> I WOULD JUST LIKE IT READY AND MAYBE WE CAN PUT THAT ON ADMINISTRATOR NEGOTIATE AND GET IT SIGNED OFF THAT WAY.

WE ARE NOT GOING TWO OR THREE WEEK CYCLE BEFORE WE GET CLOSER AND CLOSER THE TURTLE SEASON AND NOT BE ABLE TO DO A PROJECT UNTIL NEXT YEAR.HICH AGAIN, WILL COST MORE MONEY AND GET

BIGGER AND BIGGER AS TIME GOES. >> IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY AND THROUGH THE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER WALDRON, YOU WOULD

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WANT TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO ADMINISTRATION TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD TRANSFER OR ALLOW THE DESIGNATED HOMEOWNERS TO OPERATE UNDER THE COUNTY

PERMIT, IS THAT? >> YES SIR.

>> RATHER THAN HAVE IT COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.

>> RIGHT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT TWICE NOW.

MAYBE THREE TIMES. >> TO THE BOARD IF I MAY PIERCE ONLY THE COUNTY NEED TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF OVERSIGHT.

OVER THE WORK THAT HAPPENS SO THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE AN EFFORT BY THE COUNTY TO DO THAT OVERSIGHT.

>> OKAY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM

WITH THAT. >> IS THERE CONSENSUS AMONG THE

BOARD MEMBERS? >> MR. CHAIR?

>> EVERYONE IS NODDING YES. >> MR. CHAIR, THIS ONE, YOU BE DELEGATING AUTHORITY TO THE STAFF TO EXECUTE IT WITHOUT BRINGING IT BACK I THINK THIS WOULD NEED A MOTION AND PUBLIC

COMMENT ON THE MOTION. >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AND LEGAL TO GET SUMMER HAVEN TO DO THEIR OWN

WORK. >> I SECOND THAT.

>> COMMENT? >> WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SUMMER HAVEN ITEM PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> NOT SO FAST -- [INAUDIBLE] MAY I SUGGEST THAT THE BCC MEET JOINTLY WITH WATERWAY AND BEACH DISTRICT.

AND HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE SCIENCE FROM DOCTOR MICHAEL SHIRLEY WITH -- RESEARCH RESERVE.

AND ALSO, THERE'S A LADY ENGINEER EXPERT ON SUMMER HAVEN WHOSE FACULTY MEMBER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, FOR TOO LONG THESE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE WITHOUT SCIENCE.

THEY HAVE BEEN MADE WITHOUT INTELLIGENT DESIGN OF ANY SORT.

AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A BREACH THERE.

THERE HAS BEEN A BREACH THERE FOR YEARS.

CAN WE GET SOME SCIENCE IN THIS RATHER THAN JUST DELEGATING TO STAFF? COULD WE HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BREACH OF SUMMER HAVEN AND THE HYDROLOGY AND ECOLOGY OF SUMMER HAVEN, AND ONCE AND FOR ALL SOLVE THE PROBLEM RATHER THAN KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WHICH WE ALWAYS DO, WASTING MONEY AND OBVIOUSLY SUMMER HAVEN PEOPLE HAVE A CONCERN THAT NEEDS TO BE HEARD AND ACTED UPON.

BUT I DON'T LIKE THIS MOTION AT ALL.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE A MOTION FOR PRESENTATION BY DOCTOR MICHAELSHIRLEY AND UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. AND LET'S HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION RATHER THAN JUST REACT TO PRESSURE AND CRISIS.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH ENVIRONMENTAL LAW IN THE COUNTRY. WE MAKE BAD DECISIONS UNDER THE GUN QUICKLY WITHOUT DELIBERATION AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THE MOTION I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD BE CHANGED.

THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT MEETING IF AT ALL POSSIBLE BY DOCTOR SHIRLEY AND THE UF ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD.

THEY DO IT FOR A LIVING AND FOR A CAREER AND THERE BEEN SO MANY STUDIES DONE THAT SUMMER HAVEN BY UF, I HAVE ASKED THE WATERWAY DISTRICT REPEATEDLY, WOULD YOU PLEASE INVITE HER TO COME? PLEASE INVITE DOCTOR SHIRLEY TO COME. THEY DON'T EVEN GIVE A COURTESY OF A NO, THEY JUST IGNORE THE REQUEST FOR GOOD SILENCE PER PUBLIC POLICY NEEDS TO BE BASED UPON GOOD SCIENCE, NOT EMOTION, NOT POLITICAL PRESSURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT

ON THIS PROPOSED ITEM? >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON SECOND BY CHAIRMAN DEAN.

PLEASE VOTE. PASSES FIVE ÃZERO, THANK YOU.

THAT IS IT. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE CIVIC ROUNDTABLE SO NICE TO COME, EVERY COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING, SENT OUT A GREAT EMAIL THAT OUTLINES THE VOTING AND HOW EVERYTHING WENT, I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING, AND TAKING YOUR TIME, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

ALSO AGAIN, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THESE MEETINGS. THERE ARE HOURS AND HOURS OF PREPARATION WHERE STAFF MEETS WITH THUS, THE LEGAL STAFF AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND COMMUNICATION STAFF.

THERE WERE HOURS AND HOURS AND WEEKS ARE GOING TO THESE

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MEETINGS. I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK ON THE STAFF AND THE BOARD. Y'ALL ARE SITTING HERE PAYING ATTENTION SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THE PUBLIC CANNOT SEE THAT BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALSO SAY I APPRECIATE THE 60+ CITIZENS THAT CAME THEY WERE RESPECTFUL PAID ATTENTION TO THE TIME AND IT DID NOT TALK OVER THE VICE CHAIR OR OTHERS.

I THINK THAT IS A REFLECTION WE HAVE INCREDIBLE CITIZENS IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. THEY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, THEY WANT TO COME, THEY WANT THEIR VOICES TO BE HEARD AND WE ARE LISTENING TO THOSE VOICES AND THEY ARE DOING WITHOUT BEING RUDE TO BE FRANK. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING BRIEFLY THE MOBILITY FEES THAT CAME UP IN THE WORKSHOP AS WELL AS DISCUSSION AS GOING BACK TO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING CARMEN TAUGHT THE COUNTY, THE NORTH HAS A REQUIREMENT WITH OVERLAYS BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO THAT AND ALSO LOOK UNDER STATUTE WE CAN GO INTO COMMISSIONERS AND HAVE THAT BEFORE. I DO KNOW IT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER OR SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND TODAY, I THINK IN OUR MEETING THIS PAST TUESDAY MENTIONED MAY BE DOING A FOLLOW-UP IN JUNE OR JULY.

MY RECOMMENDATION WAS MAYBE EARLIER THAN THAT MAYBE APRIL OR MAY TIMEFRAME OR WANT TO ALLOW STAFF TIME TO PREPARE.

I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO DO SOME QUICK FOLLOW-UP ON THIS. DON'T KNOW WE WILL HAVE THE SAME TURNOUT BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

GOING SOONER THAN LATER. I WANTED TO SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT, IT MAY BE DIFFICULT TIME FOR SOME FAMILIES, TRAVELING SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

>> I WILL GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT.

RIGHT NOW MAY SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD, EARLY MAY OR SOMETHING IN THAT TIME. I THINK IN MAY WE HAVE THREE DAYS WORKSHOP ON THE BUDGET. MAYBE WE SHOULD DO IN APRIL.

BUT I WILL GET WITH STAFF AND GET FEEDBACK.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF BUT I'M NOT LOOKING TO HAVE ANY FULL-BLOWN DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE PREPARED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITHOUT DOING SOME STAFF -- THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE CAN MEET AS A COMMISSION AND TALK ABOUT FUTURE PLANS WHERE WE ARE HEADED AND SO WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK HEADS-UP IN THE PUBLIC FOR THAT MATTER ON TWO ITEMS I PLAN PUTTING ON THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 15, THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM WHICH WILL CAPTURE THE ESSENCE OF THE WORKSHOP FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE, CREDIT TRANSFERS, WE HAVE NOT GONE TO THAT AND HAS BEEN REQUESTED MORE THAN ONCE, I'VE ASKED STAFF TO CONSIDER PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA IT WILL BE AT LEAST IN MY MIND, A WORKSHOP WE CAN DISCUSS, THEY WILL NOT BE AN ACTION ITEM TO TRANSFER, JUST BE A DISCUSSION OF THAT POLICY SO WE CAN BRING THAT IN FOR LANDING HOPEFULLY FEBRUARY 15. THE OTHER ITEM I AM GOING TO BRING UP TO DISCUSS ON FEBRUARY 15, I'VE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS AND I THINK IT IS BEEN MENTIONED BY MORE THAN ONE NEWS AGENCY BUT I'M GOING TO REPEAT IT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT I PLAN ON HAVING AN AGENDA ITEM FEBRUARY 15, $500 MILLION BACKLOG AND INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS, THEY'RE FACING A BACKLOG IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, HIGHWAYS, ROADS, REGIONAL PARKS, BRANCH LIBRARIES, FIRE STATIONS AND I'VE ASKED THE STAFF, AND THIS IS COMING FOR ME. NOT THE STAFF.

THIS IS COMING FROM ME, YOUR CHAIRMAN, TO ASK THE STAFF TO BE PREPARED TO PRESENT WHERE THEY SEE THIS BACKLOG, THE CHAIR WITH THIS $500 MILLION BACKLOG WHICH IS BEEN BUILDING UP OVER THE LAST 20+ YEARS AND IN FACT, THOSE, THERE ARE SOME WHO MAY REMEMBER THAT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA TO CONSIDER, VOTING TO PUT A ONE CENT SALES TAX INCREASE ON THE BALLOT FOR REFERENDUM AND THE ISSUE WAS DISCUSSED IN THE SUMMER 15, NONE OF US WERE ON THE PCOMMISSION AT THE TIME.

BUT THAT FAILED THREE ÃTWO INSTEAD OF PASSING THREE ÃTWO.

THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE FOR US AS A COMMISSION, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN BUILDING AND BUILDING AND BUILDING A BACKLOG THAT I AM CONVINCED WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IN MY OPINION IS TO GO TO THE VOTER.

AND HAVE THE VOTER VOTE YES OR NO, UP OR DOWN.

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I CALL THAT PARTICIPATORY DEMOCRACY.ET'S HEAR IT FROM THE VOTERS AND WE CAN EXPLAIN TO THE VOTERS WHAT WE THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS AND WHERE WE ARE BEHIND, LAGGING BEHIND AND THEN LET THEM VOTE TO DECIDE, THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP IN FEBRUARY, NOT IN SEPTEMBER, IS THAT THERE IS A SERIES OF LEGAL REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING PUBLIC HEARINGS AND VIOLENCE IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A NOVEMBER DEADLINE.

I WILL BE PUTTING THIS ON FOR DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY 15 FOR

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ALL OF US TO LOOK AT DISCUSS IT AND DECIDE, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AHEAD'S UP THAT IS MY PLAN FOR FEBRUARY 15, I'M SURE THAT WILL GENERATE DISCUSSION. WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER

TO THE ADMINISTRATOR. >> NO COMMENTS MR. CHAIR.

>> LEGAL? >> YES, I DO HAVE A MATTER I WOULD LIKE TO RAISE WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE IT IS A VERY SHORT TIMELINE. I APOLOGIZE, TO BRING SOMETHING TO OUR SHORT LEAD TIME ANOTHER POTENTIAL OPIOID SETTLEMENT, JUST SO YOU KNOW WE FIRST RECEIVED WORD OF THIS LAST WEEK. I EMAILED YOU AT THE TIME AND WE NEED TO HAVE AN ANSWER BY LATER THIS WEEK, HENCE THE SENSE OF URGENCY. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SHORT TIMEFRAME ON THIS. ANOTHER PROPOSED SETTLEMENT FOR FLORIDA HAS BEEN REACHED, THIS ONE WITH THE COMPANY ENDO PHARMACEUTICALS. THEY WOULD MAKE A LUMP SUM PAYMENT TO THE ENTIRE STATE AND PARTICIPATING SUBDIVISIONS OF $65 MILLION TO SETTLE THE FLORIDA LITIGATION.

55 MILLION TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR OPIOID ABATEMENT PURPOSES AND THE REST OF LEGAL FEES.

OF THE 55 MILLION, THE, THERE IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE, THE BOARD PREVIOUS APPROVED UNDER THE FORMULA WE WOULD RECEIVE ABOUT $54,765 DIRECTLY. IT HAS TO BE USED FOR OPIOID PREVENTION PURPOSES. ANOTHER $156,273 AND CHANGE WOULD GO INTO A REGIONAL FUND THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO UTILIZING WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA ON A MORE REGIONAL BASIS. AGAIN, THESE FUNDS BE LIMITED TO OPEN PREVENTION AND TREATMENT PROGRAMS, WE CANNOT USE IT FOR THE GENERAL FUND. ND BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TIME LINE, I HAVE SENT YOU SOME DOCUMENTS OVER EMAIL.

THAT OUR OFFICE HAS VETTED AND THE SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU AND BECAUSE OF THE SHORT DEADLINE I'M ASKING TODAY FOR A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS AND THIS IS WITH REGARDS TO ENDO PHARMACEUTICALS, THERE ARE THE CASES STILL OUT THERE THAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN BRIEFED ON IN THE PAST, THEY ARE STILL PENDING THIS IS JUST ONE SPECIFIC

SETTLEMENT. >> IS THERE ANY BOARD DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT BEFORE CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ATTORNEYS RECOMMENDED ACTION.

>> MY MOTHER HAD A SON IN HER OFFICE IS THAT IF YOU HAVE POOR PLAN ON YOUR PART IT DOESN'T -- IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED UPON THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND AT THE B. PROCEDURE MATTERS.

AS JOHN DINGELL ONCE SAID, CONGRESSMAN JOHN DINGELL.

IF I WRITE THE PROCEDURE AND DIRECT THE SUBSTANTIVE LAW, I WIN EVERY TIME. TOO OFTEN THIS COMMISSION WE HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP LAST MINUTE, BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IT SHOWS LACK OF RESPECT. I REALIZE YOU ARE NEW, I REALIZE HE IS NEW BUT IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I SUPPORT THE MOTION BUT FOR GOD SAKES, CAN WE ENFORCE THE RULES OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COMMISSION? FAVORABLY TO THE PEOPLE, TO WHERE WE ARE INFORMED AND WHERE WE KNOW WHEN WE WALK IN HERE WHAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA.

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND IT HAPPENS AGAIN AND AGAIN.

IT IS SECRECY. IN THE WORDS OF PATRICK MOYNIHAN, SECRECY IS FOR LOSERS.

FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THE INFORMATION.

I OBJECT, THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT? >> IS THERE A MOTION?

COMMISSIONER? >> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT RESTATING IT PLEASE.

>> MOTION TO AUTHORIZE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH ENDO

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