Jan 25, 2022 Board of County Commissioners Growth Management Workshop

[Call to Order]

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>> GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP, I'M HAPPY TO SEE SOME INTERESTING CITIZENS HERE TO GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD IN THIS COUNTY WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THE FIRST THING WE DO AT A WORKSHOP IS CALL THE ROLL.

I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WE WILL BEGIN. WE LIKE TO START MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS WITH INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE.

I WILL CALL ON THE CHAPLAIN FROM THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT TO OFFER AN INVOCATION. IF YOU PLEASE STAND, WE WILL

FOLLOW THAT WITH THE PLEDGE. >> GOOD MORNING.

IN JOHN 15 VERSES FOUR AND FIVE WE FIND JESUS TALKING DISCIPLES AND SAYS THIS.BIDE IN ME NOT IN YOU AS A BRANCH CAN BEAR NOT FRUIT ITSELF EXCEPT BY DIVINE NO MORE CAN WE SET IN ME I AM THE VINE AND YOU ARE THE BRANCHES ABIDE IN ME AND I IN HIM THE SAME WE AFFORD MUCH FRUIT.

WITHOUT ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING. RECENTLY I WAS IN MY BACKYARD CUTTING LINES AND I NOTICED THE VINES TOP THE TREES STILL GOOD FOR A COUPLE DAYS AFTER I CUT THEM.

ABOUT THE THIRD DAY THEY STARTED TO WITHER AWAY.

AND I REALIZED IT FIRST CAME TO MY MIND THAT HE IS THE VINE AND THE BRANCHES AND WITHOUT HIM WE CAN DO NOTHING.

GOD WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMISSION, WE PRAY YOU BLESSED THE DAY HEAVENLY FATHER.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE BRANCHES.

BRANCHES THAT YOU USED TO BRING FORTH MUCH FRUIT.

HELP US TO STAY CONNECTED TO YOU HEAVENLY FATHER.

WE KNOW LORD THAT WITHOUT YOU WE CAN DO NOTHING.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DEAR LORD.

WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO IS SPEAKING TODAY WE PRAY YOU BLESS US WITH WISDOM, CLARITY OF SPEECH WE THANK YOU FOR THIS AND PRAY THAT WE ALL TAKE THE SAME POSITION UPON OUR NEEDS BEFORE AND YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR THE MILITARY, POLICE AND FIRE RESCUE. WE PRAY LORD YOU BLESS EACH OF THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE OF ALL HOME AS THEY KEEP OTHERS SAFE.

WE LOVE AND PRAISE YOU IN JESUS PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN.

>> THANK YOU. REMAIN STANDING, I WILL CALL ON.

FORWARD. HE IS A MARINE, VETERAN OF THE VIETNAM WAR AND WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE THEM TO LEAD US IN THE

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I SEE EVERYONE HAS RISEN.

PLEASE FACE THE FLAG, PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU. >> AGAIN, GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS AN EXCITING DAY FOR US THE COUNTY COMMISSION, BECAUSE WE ARE HEARING FROM YOU, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE BOTH INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY. THERE MAY BE SEVERAL SPEAKERS SPEAKING PER INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES ETC. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE AND AS WE PROCEED, THE, IT IS MY THOUGHT THAT THE BEST WAY TO SET THIS UP IS TO PROVIDE ALL OF YOU AND ALL OF US WITH SOME OF THE EXPERT PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND FACTS FROM OUR STAFF TO SET THE STAGE OF HOW WE DEAL WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT CURRENTLY AND WHAT WE MAY NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FOUR RELATIVELY SHORT BUT HOPEFULLY, MEANINGFUL PRESENTATIONS.

ONE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ROLE IN MANAGING GROWTH, THE CURRENT GROWTH TRENDS IN INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, TRANSPORTATION AND THEN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.

FOLLOWING THAT, WE WILL THEN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

EACH OF YOU WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU RESPOND TO ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENT PLUS ANYTHING THAT YOU

[1. Local Government’s Role in Managing Growth]

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>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARN MIKE ROBERTSON GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. I'M HONORED TO BE HERE AS WELL.

THANK YOU CITIZENS AND SISTERS AND BROTHERS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY. JUST AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED, THESE ARE THE TOPICS THAT THE BOARD APPROVED TO TALK ABOUT HERE. I SEE IT IS REALLY CONVERSATION STARTER. JUST AS COMMISSIONER DEAN SAID IT'S INFORMATION THAT MAY BE WE CAN HELP UNDERSTAND WITH SOME GROWTH IS GOING IN THE COUNTY. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WHICH MOST OF US KNOW AND THEN ULTIMATELY KIND OF WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. SO THAT SAID, I WILL TALK THE FIRST TWO AND THEN WE HAVE AN ESTEEMED GUEST FOR NUMBER THREE SO I'M EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.

AND THEN AGAIN WRAPPING IT UP. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ROLE MANAGING GROWTH, WITH SOME GUIDING DOCUMENTS, COMPOUNDS OF PLAN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEN JUST OVERALL HOW THE PROCESS WORKS TO IMPLEMENT THOSE.

THE COPPERHEADS OF PLAN IS DICTATED BY FLORIDA STATUTE.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE IT. IT HAS A BUNCH OF ELEMENTS IN IT. YOU CAN SEE THEM IN FRONT OF YOU, THEY ARE DIVERSE. LAND USE, WE DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY, TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING IS VERY IMPORTANT, COASTAL CONSERVATION, RECREATION AND EVEN PROPERTY RIGHTS. DEVELOPMENT VERSUS PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT WILL UNDERSTAND WITH ILLNESS ARE THERE AND THEY HELP TO GUIDE ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS AND PUTTING IN REGULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO USE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY AND BE HAPPY.

AND HEALTHY. LET'S TALK ABOUT LAND USE.

WITHIN THE LAND USE IT DICTATES DENSITY.

HOW MANY UNITS YOU CAN HAVE. WHAT USE CAN HAVE ON YOUR PROPERTY? RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE.

WE USE THIS TOO DICTATE WHERE IT CAN HAPPEN IN THE COUNTY.

MANY HAVE HEARD OF ZONING, LAND USE IS MORE OF A GENERAL IN NATURE AND I SEE IT AS THE VISION OF THE COUNTY WHERE YOU WANT GROWTH, WHERE YOU WANT FARMING TO REMAIN AND WHERE DO YOU WANT RESOURCES TO BE PUT. AND WHERE YOU WANT CONSERVATION. WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT.

YOU CAN SEE THIS MAP, IT HAS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT COLORS.

I THINK WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL WORK HERE. I'M NOT SURE, THERE WE GO.

I'M GOING TO POINT TO THIS ONE, HOPEFULLY CAN SEE.

THIS IS NORTHWEST SECTOR OF THE COUNTY THIS IS COUNTY ROAD 208 REFERENCE AND MAYBE 16, THIS IS I-95.

WE KNOW A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND EVEN CORRECTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, NONRESIDENTIAL IS UP HERE, WE CAN SEE THAT. THOSE ARE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL LAND USES. WITH SOME COMMERCIAL.

IF YOU CUT THE COUNTY IN HALF, IF YOU BIFURCATE IT WHAT IS DOWN HERE? A LOT OF RURAL, WHITE AND GREEN A LOT OF AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE.

YOU CAN SEE OF COURSE TASTING IS HERE.

LITTLE MIXED-USE AND ALONG THE INTERSTATE THERE IS SOME MIXED-USE AND WE KNOW THIS IS BASICALLY SAINT AUGUSTINE.

SO, IT IS DIVERSE. THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED ROUGHLY AND FORMALLY IN 1990 FOR THE COUNTY.

SO IT IS MORPHED OVER TIME. WE ALL KNOW CARBONS OF PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT COME IN AND INDIVIDUALS WHO OWN PROPERTY AND WISH TO CHANGE DUE TO MARKET CONDITIONS AND MAYBE THE AREA HAS CHANGED AND THE BOARD HAS A TOUGH CHALLENGE TO MANAGE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND AS WELL AS FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.

SO THAT'S DIFFERENT. LAND USE, THIS KIND OF ERROR GUIDING DOCUMENT OR GUIDING MAP THAT TELLS US, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. IT COULD CHANGE.

WE HAVE AN EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT PERIOD THAT HAPPENS I BELIEVE EVERY SEVEN YEARS, RIGHT? REQUIRED BY THE STATE TO GO IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

DO WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES? DO YOU WANT TO GO IN IS DEVELOPMENT NECESSARY IS INFRASTRUCTURE THERE?HOSE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO CONSIDER.

IN A NUTSHELL, THAT IS LAND USE, BIG PICTURE.

AND IT HELPS GUIDE WITH OUR SPECIFIC REGULATIONS.

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. BASICALLY, ITS PURPOSE IS ESTABLISHING THE REGULATIONS TO HELP US ENFORCE WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES IN. AND IT USES THE COMPLIMENT TO DO THAT. IT IS SUBORDINATE TO IT.

AND THE INTENT BASICALLY IS TO BE EFFICIENT WHEN WE DO IT.

FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH AND COMFORT AND WELFARE FOR ORDERLY AND PROGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENT.HOSE ARE THE DETAILS, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THAT IS WHAT WE USE

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SO, LET ME GO BACK.OME OF US KNOW THE PROCESS HOW THINGS COME BUT I WILL BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT HOW DEVELOPMENTS GET APPROVED AND THEY ARE BROAD. FROM SOMETHING AS LARGE AS SILVERLEAF AND NOT KITTY BUT YOU CAN HAVE A PUT ON THE PROPERTY AND SO THOSE HAVE TO GO THROUGH REGULATIONS.

BUT THE LARGE WAS THAT MAYBE DON'T HAVE USES ALLOWED BY RIGHT SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THEM, THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS, IT IS REVIEWED BY STAFF AS I SAID BEFORE, BUT THEN IT COMES BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD.

[2. Current Growth Trends & Infrastructure Needs]

IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA? AND SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE SUCH GROWTH AND SO WITH THAT I WILL MOVE TO HEAR THE POPULATION AND DEVELOPMENT INCREASES. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A DEMOGRAPHER OUT THERE THAT WOULD SAY IT'S A CRAZY INCREASE, RIGHT? THAT IS HUGE.

44 PERCENT INCREASE. AND IT INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 2000 UNTIL 2010 AS WELL RIGHT? THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NATIVE, YOU KNOW HOW FAST THE COUNTY HAS GROWN YOU COULD SAY A ROAD THAT IS NOT EVEN PAVED 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO AND IT'S FOUR LANE OR SIX LANE.

HUGE INCREASES WHICH CREATE CHALLENGES FOR EVERYBODY HERE.

THE CITIZENS SEE IT IS HOW TO KEEP UP, STAFF SEES AND THE COMMISSION CERTAINLY SEES IT. WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES HERE. IT'S A GREAT COUNTY, EVERYONE WANTS TO MOVE HERE. WE DON'T NOT WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE BUT HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? I'LL TALK A LITTLE ABOUT GROWTH TRENDS.

AND BEFORE I MOVED TO THE GROWTH TRENDS, JUST BRIEFLY, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. WE WANT TO LIST A COUPLE AND WE HAVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS HERE TO DO ALL THIS GREAT WORK.

PUBLIC SAFETY, WE DON'T HAVE THEM, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE RESCUE THE CHALLENGES GETTING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF STAFF, APPROPRIATE MENTAL FACILITIES AND IN THE RIGHT PLACES, IT IS A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE PEOPLE.

PUBLIC SERVICE, UTILITIES, WASTEWATER, RECLAIMED WATER, CENTRAL WATER, PARKS AND RECREATION VERY DIFFICULT WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE LAND THAT IS HERE.

HOW DO YOU GET BOAT DOCKS AND BOAT RAMPS WHEN LAND IS ALREADY TAKEN UP? WE BEAUTIFUL COASTLINE ETC.

WATERWAY, LIBRARIES THEY OFTEN HAVE TO HEAD UP THOSE PROJECTS, CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND IS A CHALLENGE TO.

AND MOVING ON, THEN TRANSPORTATION WILL HAVE A SPECIFIC SPEAKER AGAIN, AND ESTEEMED I WOULD SAY FAMOUS, WE COULD SAY HE'S FAMOUS IMPACT AND MOBILITY FEES, HE WILL BE HERE TO SPEAK AS WELL AS TRANSPORTATION MANAGER.

GROWTH TRENDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

THE TWO MAPS HERE AGAIN, NOT LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL BUT IS BASICALLY JUST TO SHOW YOU THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT IS APPROVED WITHIN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT'S AN EASY METRIC FOR US TO TRACK.

THIS IS IN LOTS OF RECORD THAT WE ESTABLISH 100 YEARS AGO, THIS IS BASICALLY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE ONE ON THE LEFT WOULD BE APPROVED ENTITLEMENTS, AND THEN THE ONE ON THE RIGHT WOULD BE BUILT ENTITLEMENTS. BUILT RESIDENTIAL AND THIS INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY. SO JUST FOR EXAMPLE, THIS WOULD BE SILVERLEAF RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF ENTITLEMENTS HERE. THIS WOULD BE RIVERTOWN, TO GIVE YOU AN INKLING. SO, -- THIS BUILDING UP SIGNIFICANTLY AND RECENTLY IF YOU'VE HEARD OF PLENTY AND MARSHALL QUICKLY RECENTLY CLOSED ON THE DRI MEANING BASICALLY IT'S ALMOST COMPLETELY BUILT OUT.

I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST ONE OF THE COUNTY WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE YOU APPROVED IT AND IT HAS ALL THESE ENTITLEMENTS AND IT BUILT OUT WITH COMMERCIAL NONRESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THE GROWTH HAS BEEN.

THE DEVELOPMENTS THE NORTHWEST SECTOR, NORTHEAST SECTOR.

AND WE GETTING TO SEE SOME NOW DOWN THE WILDWOOD AREA, IT IS STARTING TO BUILD UP ALONG COUNTY ROAD OR I'M SORRY STATE ROAD 207. AND, MORE SPECIFICALLY, THERE IS A HEAT MAP OF THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS FROM OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE BILLING DEPARTMENT THEY PROVED VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION. YOU CAN SEE.

I'M SORRY, LET ME GO BACK. THERE WE GO.

YOU CAN SEE AGAIN IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR, TWIN CREEKS HERE NOCATEE RIVERTOWN, THESE THE HOTSPOTS AND AGAIN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR 2021. BUT OF COURSE BUILDINGS GOING

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THIS WOULD BE, WE TALKED ABOUT RESIDENTIAL A SECOND AGO.

THIS IS NONRESIDENTIAL WHICH IS SUPER IMPORTANT.

AND FINALLY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS WITH ALL THE ROOFTOP SET OF COMMON, THE NONRESIDENTIAL IS STARTING TO COME INTO ITS OWN. FOR A WHILE IT WAS PRETTY SLOW ESPECIALLY AFTER 2008. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE NUMBERS IN ORDER TO BRING NONRESIDENTIAL. THIS WAS A PRIORITY OF THE COMMISSION BY THE WAY. THE COMMISSION HAD IMPLEMENTED SOME POLICIES TO REDUCE CONCURRENCY FOR NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO COME TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, WE WANT GOOD JOBS. WE WANT SERVICES.

SO, AS WELL AS BUYING DOWN SOME OF THE IMPACT FEES TO HELP WITH THAT. SOME OF THE THINGS, SO THAT WAS A PRIORITY. ANYWAY AGAIN, BECAUSE HE WAS A ROOFTOPS ARE AT AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE AT UP HERE ON THE MAP. SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE BUILT RIGHT, SO AND THEN APPROVED. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT QUITE FULFILLED THAT. MOST OF THEM HAVEN'T.

ALL RIGHT. WE 137,000, LET'S TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL APPROVED THIS IS FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IN THE 1970S UP UNTIL NOW. THIS IS THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS. WE HAVE TOTAL BUILT 75,000.

THE COUNTY COUNT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 61,000 ENTITLEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO BUILD. GIVE OR TAKE.

THAT IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT IS OUT THERE.

BUT IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

HERE IS A MAP THAT SHOWS BASICALLY CONSERVATION AREAS.

AND I HOPE YOU CAN SEE IT, IT MIGHT BE HARD TO SEE BUT THE GIST OF IT IS, THERE'S ALWAYS ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE COUNTY IS IN SOME SORT OF CONSERVATION IT CAN BE STATE LAND, THE COUNTY LAND, IT COULD BE A PARK, MITIGATION AREA, AND THEN RECENTLY, 2018, THE COUNTY I THINK IT WAS 1400 MAY BE 1100 ACRES. BUT THE MCCULLOUGH CREEK AREA DOWN HERE, THE COUNTY SAW FIT, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. THERE WAS MITIGATION BUT ALSO PUTS IN CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. GET THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND USE THAT PROPERTY. ONE THIRD OF THE LANDMASS IN THE COUNTY IS IN CONSERVATION. THAT INCLUDES EVEN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS WITHIN DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT THOSE IN IF IT IS PROTECTED OR WETLANDS.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT AND IT HELPS WITH ALL OF OUR RESOURCES AND THINGS WE LIKE TO DO IN THE COUNTY LIKE PARKS AND RECREATION ETC. ANOTHER WAS BRIEF BUT A QUICK OVERVIEW.

THERE IS WAS GOING ON THE COUNTY, THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WILL KNOW WE HAVE. AND THEN.

[3. Transportation Planning and Concurrency]

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT? LET'S PROCEED, ARE YOU READY? FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW, -- IS OUR GO TO GUY WHEN IT COMES TO COUNTY TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU WITH THE

COUNTY? >> JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 13 YEARS. SINCE 2008.

>> YOU HAVE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH.

>> YES SIR. AT THIS STAGE OF MY APPOINTMENT WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY, I THINK -- GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS. FOR THE RECORD.

YOU BASICALLY, IS A COMPREHENSIVE AND BROAD STROKE OF WHAT WE DO IN THE COUNTY, RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION.

WE, FOR YEARS WE HAD PLANNED PROBABLY IN TRANSPORTATION SINCE 1989 UNTIL NOW. I PICKED UP WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND WE MOVE FORWARD. WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THIS IS THE TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS MAP.

ON THE WEBSITE, WE HAVE THE NORTHWEST TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY MAP AND PRIMARILY FOCUS ON THAT.

THIS IS BASICALLY GOING TO TAKE US OUT TO ABOUT YEAR 2045.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THAT AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE THERE, BASICALLY, IT OUTLINES PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION,

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THE BASIS OF THESE PLANS ARE BASED ON EVERY FIVE YEARS OF LONG-RANGE PLAN THAT IS PROVIDED FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

EVERY FIVE YEARS WE UPDATE THAT WE LOOK AT THE NEEDS FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NEXT UPDATE WILL LOOK AT 2050 ACCOMMODATION.

JUST ON THAT, LET'S NARROW IT DOWN TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

THESE ARE THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE DEFICIENT BASED ON ALL OF THE APPROVED TRIPS, AND WE DO TAKE TRAFFIC COUNT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, OUR TRAFFIC COUNT IS THE BASIS AND THEN WE ADD ALL OF THE APPROVED TRIPS THAT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT.

SO THE RESULT YOU LOOKING AT 54 DEFICIENT SEGMENTS AND ESTIMATED COST OF APPROXIMATELY 730 MILLION IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. THE BREAKDOWN YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTY ROADS WE HAVE ABOUT 40 DEFICIENT SEGMENTS IN THE COST OF CLOSE TO 600 MILLION IN STATE ROAD WE HAVE 14 DEFICIENT SEGMENT AT A COST OF HUNDRED AND 40 MILLION IN ORDER TO DO THAT. AND THESE ARE JUST BASICALLY, THE BREAKDOWN, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE SEGMENTS THAT ARE DEFICIENT. BUT LET'S TAKE ANOTHER STEP FURTHER. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT EXISTING TRAFFIC. JUST BASED ON EXISTING TRAFFIC, HOW MANY DEFICIENT SEGMENTS DO WE HAVE WITHIN THE COUNTY? AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE 18 DEFICIENT WITH THE COST ABOUT 191 MILLION. 13 DEFICIENT SEGMENT WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 50 MILLION AND STATE ROAD -- DEFICIENT SEGMENTS LOOKING AT ABOUT 36 MILLION.

WHEN ASKED COME OUT OF THE 13 DEFICIENT SEGMENTS, AT A COST OF 155 MILLION, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH? BASICALLY HAVE ABOUT 50 MILLION.

WAS TO HAVE A BALANCE OF ABOUT 140 MILLION IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE DEFICIENT SEGMENTS BASED ON EXISTING TRAFFICS OUT THERE.

AND THESE ARE JUST THE BREAKDOWN, HERE'S ANOTHER DEPICTION OF THAT IN THE BAR CHART HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE.

I INCLUDED ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS THAT YOU DID ASK ABOUT THE TIMING. BASED ON EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE WORK OVER THE YEARS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION OF ANY PROJECTS UNLESS WE HAVE FUNDING, UNLESS WE HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND UNLESS WE HAVE SITE AND DESIGN THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU REALLY FIRM LINE WHEN THEY START. BUT THESE THE PROJECTS.

THE MAJOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT'S ABOUT TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THE FIRST ESPECIALLY FOR 95 INCLUDING THE -- BRIDGE IS FISCAL YEAR 23, COST ABOUT 363 MILLION DOLLARS. AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT IS GOING TO BEEN A CONSTRUCTION FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS AT LEAST.

WE ALSO HAVE TOP PROJECTS WHICH A STATE ROAD 313.

THROUGH THE YEARS, DOT HAD FUNDED A TOTAL OF 37 MILLION THAT INCLUDE A PORTION OF IT, MAJOR PORTION OF IT FOR ACQUISITION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ACQUISITION FOR THE LOWEST SEGMENT BASICALLY BETWEEN 16 DOWN TO

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AT THE COST OF $11 MILLION. WE ALSO HAVE COUNTY ROAD -- OUR NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST OF PART-TIME PROJECTS.

PREDOMINANTLY, A FOUR LANE SEGMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SILVERLEAF PARKWAY. WHICH WERE CONSTRUCTED BY SILVERLEAF DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE REQUESTING OUR PLAN CURRENTLY, ENDS AT 16 BUT WE HAVE THE ALIGNMENT THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO COUNTY ROAD 204.

AND WE HAVE ANOTHER MAJOR PROJECT WHICH IS THE INTERCHANGE AT 16 AND 95 THAT ARE THREE PHASES.

THAT WE PLAN TO DO IMPROVEMENTS.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE FUNDING FOR PHASE 1 AND THEN PHASE 2, YOU CAN SEE IN 2025. AND BEYOND THAT.

SO HERE'S WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION JUST TO GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF WHAT WILL BE THERE IT WAS GREAT, IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN THROUGH THIS YET, YOU CAN GO TO COLLINS AND 295, YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT THAT LOCATION.

NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PART B. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

IMPACT FEES AND OTHER ALTERNATIVES.

-- IS HERE HE TEXT ME THAT HE ENCOUNTERS TRAFFIC BUT SHOULD BE HERE BY NINE. HE IS HERE.

SO, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT IMPACT FEES BASICALLY, ONE TIME CHARGE TO DEVELOPMENT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IT IS USED FOR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT, WHICH BASICALLY FOR CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT. THEY CANNOT BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE, FIXING POTHOLES, IT IS NOT ALLOWED.

WHAT HAPPENED IF THE ROADWAYS ARE NOT, DOES NOT HAVE CAPACITY, THEN WE CALL THEM DEFICIENT.

THEN WE HAVE A PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALLOW DEVELOPMENTS TO PAY THEIR SHARE AND MOVE FORWARD.

THUS THE CURRENT OPTION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT OUT THERE, IS THAT THROUGH THE YEARS, DOCTOR NICHOLAS HAS RECOMMENDED TO US, TO SUNSET IMPACT FEE CREDIT. IF PART OF THE PAYMENT BASICALLY, WE APPLY CREDIT TO IMPACT FEES, BUT IN THE COUNTY, WE HAVE MILLIONS IN TERMS OF IMPACT FEE CREDIT.

AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO SUNSET THEM.

BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO ENGAGE INTO THEM, YOU MAY.

AND THEN I THINK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAD ASKED ABOUT MOBILITY FEE. AND BASED ON THE MOBILITY FEE IS THAT IT WOULD BE A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE PROP SHARE AND ALSO REPLACE IMPACT FEES IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

AND THIS MORNING, WE ARE DELIGHTED AND HONORED TO HAVE DOCTOR JAMES NICHOLAS. HE IS ON EMERITUS PROFESSOR OF LAW AND URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING FOR UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA. HE IS THE ONE THAT PROVIDE US THE FRAMEWORK IN ORDER TO START IMPACT FEE PROGRAM BACK IN 1987. SUBSEQUENTLY, HE PROVIDED US THE TECHNICAL BACKGROUND TO JUSTIFY FOR THE IMPACT FEE UNTIL THE LAST UPDATE IN 2018. SINCE THEN, HE HAS RETIRED BUT THIS MORNING HE IS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO ATTEND AND PROVIDE US ON A PRO BONO BASIS. AND FOR THAT, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL. HE HAS WRITTEN MANY BOOKS RELATING TO THE IMPACT FEES, MOBILITY FEES AND WAS ALSO PART OF A CO-AUTHOR THAT WAS COMMISSIONED BY FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS ON MOBILITY FEE REPORT.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DOCTOR NICHOLAS TO COME UP HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DISCUSSION WITH DOCTOR NICHOLAS, HE WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT FOR YOU. DOCTOR NICHOLAS?

>> THANK YOU. DOCTOR NICHOLAS IS COMING UP, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT IT WAS 48 YEARS AGO THAT HE AND I SERVED

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SIMILARLY HE IS STILL GOING AT IT.

WELCOME! >> WE ARE STILL HERE, HENRY! [LAUGHTER] GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. SOMEBODY OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC. [LAUGHTER] I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, MOBILITY FEES.

THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AND AMBIGUITY ABOUT WHAT IS AN IMPACT FEE OR MOBILITY FEE.

CAN I SEE THE OVERHEAD ON THE REPORT? THAT'S IT. OKAY.

THIS IS THE MOBILITY FEE STUDY THAT WAS COMMISSIONED WHICH REALLY THE ONLY GUIDANCE WE HAVE.

AND IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ. BUT IT SAYS I NEED MY GLASSES FOR THIS. A MOBILITY FEE -- EXCUSE ME.

ACTUALLY, IT'S EASIER THIS WAY. MOBILITY FEE CONCEPT IS AN IMPACT FEE UNDER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MODIFIED FOR SENSITIVITY OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.

THEN IT GOES ON ABOUT TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE, WHICH THE LEGISLATURE SAID, NO WAY.

SO WE CAN FOCUS ON THE FIRST AND THE SECOND.

IT IS AN IMPACT FEE MODIFIED WITH SENSITIVITY TO MILES OF TRAVEL. IT GIVES US OUR DEFINITION, ALTHOUGH IS NOT ONE IN THE LEGISLATURE.

WHAT IS ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATURE, WHOOPS -- IS THIS IT? WELL AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE, AND THESE PORTIONS WHAT IT SAYS IS, UNDER CONCURRENCY, IF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTS TO REPEAL TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY, IT IS ENCOURAGED TO ADOPT AN ALTERNATIVE MOBILITY FUNDING SYSTEM.

THAT USES ONE OR MORE OF THE TOOLS AND TECHNIQUES IDENTIFIED IN PARAGRAPH F. DOES THAT MEAN YOU HAVE TO REPEAL CONCURRENCY? IN ORDER TO DO IT? LET'S ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SEE IF THE AG HAS TOLD HIM ON THAT QUESTION. OR NOT.

MOST THAT HAVE DONE MOBILITY FEES HAVE NOT TRACKED REPEAL CONCURRENCY. AND WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH? DOWN HERE IN SECTION F. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ENCOURAGED TO DEVELOP TOOLS AND TECHNIQUES, WHAT ARE THOSE? THEIR MULTIMODAL SOLUTIONS TO GET AWAY FROM THE PRIVATE VEHICLE.

BASICALLY THAT'S THE POINT. YOU CAN ADOPT AREAWIDE LEVELS OF SERVICE THAT ARE NOT DEPENDENT ON A SINGLE ROAD SYSTEM AS YOU CERTAINLY KNOW, A SINGLE ROAD CAN SHUT DOWN DEVELOPMENT, CREATING ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS. THIS PROVIDES SOME RELIEF FROM THAT.

DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BUT IT MEANS YOU COULD.

IT MAKES CLEAR ABOUT EXEMPTING OR DISCOUNTING IMPACTS OF CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS. WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS HERE IN THIS BUILDING FOR YEARS WHAT IS YOUR 30 FOR SOME TYPE OF EXEMPTION OR REDUCTION TO ENCOURAGE CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT. BOTH IN THE STATUTE AND ALSO THE IMPACT FEE STATUTE THE LEGISLATURE FUNDING MADE IT VERY CLEAR IT CAN. SO THERE IS NO QUESTION, NO EQUAL PROTECTION CHARGE ON THAT.

BUT THEY WANTED TO SHIFT AWAY FROM THE PRIMARY FOCUS ON THE PRIVATE AUTOMOBILE TOWARDS THE ATTRACTIVE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT WITH CONVENIENT INTERCONNECTION TO TRANSIT.

NOW, TRANSIT OF COURSE, HAS MANY DIFFERENT MEANINGS.

DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE. IN ORLANDO OR MIAMI MEANS RAIL.

ANYPLACE ELSE, IN FLORIDA IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT.

IT MEANS BUSES. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CASE HERE THAT IT DOES MEAN BUSES.

BUT IT IS EMPHASIZED TO GO TO MULTIMODAL LEVELS OF SERVICE,

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PROBABLY, THE BIGGEST WAY TO DO THAT IS THROUGH TRANSIT.HICH MEANS BUSES. AND HOWEVER, IT COULD BE ALSO MET BY BICYCLES. AND BY WALKING, PEDESTRIAN.

SO YOU HAVE ALL THOSE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE USE OF AND IN TERMS OF MEETING REQUIREMENTS FOR ADEQUATE MOBILITY. RATHER THAN CONCURRENCY.AND AGAIN, TO REDUCE IMPACT FEES FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS.

MOVING AWAY FROM TRADITIONAL IMPACT FEE.

THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS AN IMPACT FEE.

THERE IS GREAT CONFUSION HERE. THE NUMBER OF JURISDICTIONS HAVE INCORPORATED THE IMPACT FEET WITH MOBILITY FEE.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON.

BECAUSE ROADS STILL REMAIN A PRIMARY MEANS OF MOBILITY.

BUT NOT THE ONLY WAY. THEN IF A ROAD BECOMES AFFECTED BICYCLES ARE WALKING BECOME MORE ATTRACTIVE.

THEN WASHINGTON D.C. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

THE CONGESTED ROADS TO GET PEOPLE TO RIDE THE METRO.

AND IT WORKED TOO. THEN PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN MIAMI BACKED OFF A PARKING REQUIREMENTS AGAIN TO GET PEOPLE TO RIDE DADE COUNTY METRO AND IT WORKED.

TOOK A LITTLE TIME BUT IT DID WORK.

ALL THOSE THINGS BECOME AVAILABLE TO YOU, PARDON ME.

IT COULD BE WITH IMPACT FEE ENVIRONMENT ALTHOUGH YOU OUGHT TO CHANGE THE NAME. THE IMPACT FEE AND MOBILITY FEE WERE MOBILITY IMPACT FEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TO MAKE IT CLEAR, YOU ARE LINKING BACK TO THE STATUTE THERE. OTHERS HAVE DIVORCED THE IMPACT FEE FROM THE MOBILITY FEE. IMPACT FEE TRADITIONALLY DEALS WITH ROADS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO WITH ROADS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION.

PROBABLY THE BIGGEST IS BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN TYPES.

WE OF COURSE DEAL WITH PEDESTRIAN BICYCLING AND RECREATIONAL IN FACT FEE SO AS NOT -- IT IS ADDRESSED DIFFERENTLY AND AT THE SAME TIME BEING A MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION WAS ALSO A MEANS OF RECREATION.

IT OPENS AND OPPORTUNITIES BOTH OF THOSE TECHNIQUES TO DEAL WITH THE NON-VEHICULAR MOBILITY.

YOU HAVE ALL THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO YOU.

IN THE MOBILITY FEE. IF WE LOOK AT PRACTICE IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF NON-VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION THEY HAVE.

IF THEY HAVE AN EXTENSIVE SYSTEM AS THEY DO IN PALM BEACH COUNTY, THERE IS HEAVY EMPHASIS ON TRANSIT LOCALLY, MOBILITY FEE IS NOT BEING USED TO ACTUALLY FUND THE REAL SYSTEM IS BEING USED TO FUND THE TERMINALS PARKING, THAT TYPE OF THING BETTER ACCESSORY TO THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.

BUT LET ME TAKE YOU OVER TO THE IMPACT FEE STATUTE FOR A MOMENT. AND LOOK AT SOME ISSUES AND WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT, LET ME SAY THAT THERE IS NEW LITIGATION IMPACT FEES. FOR YEARS, WE'VE HAD ST. JOHN'S DECISION AND SOME THAT SETTLE SOME ISSUES NOW ARE BACKING AWAY. AND PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD, WITH SOME DEGREE OF SUCCESS, SANTA ROSA COUNTY JUST PLOST IMPACT FEE CASE ON DISTRICTING.

THE FEES AND PALM BEACH COUNTY IS CURRENTLY ON LITIGATION ON THE ROAD IMPACT FEE OVER THE ISSUE OF BEING MOST RECENT DATA, SO HERE IT IS, GOOD. THE IMPACT FEE STATUTE WHICH REQUIRED FOR MOBILITY FEES, IT SAYS THAT ALL IMPACT FEES MUST BE BASED UPON THE MOST RECENT AND LOCALIZED DATA.

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WHAT IS THE MOST RECENT? DOES IT MEAN MOST RECENT AVAILABLE? OR THAT SOMEHOW THE ISSUE DEVELOPED, DATA THAT IS THE MOST RECENT AS OF ADOPTION, WE HAVE TO DEVELOP NEW DATA, USE EXISTING DATA, FOR MUCH OF THE DATA NOW WE ARE STILL USING THE 2010 CENSUS.

IS THAT MOST RECENT? NOBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT. IT IS BEFORE THE COURT RIGHT NOW. AND MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME ANSWERS, WAS IT LOCALIZED? HOW DO YOU LOCALIZED DATA AND TRANSPORTATION COMMONLY -- IT IS NATIONAL.

SO THE GENERATION -- IT'S NATIONAL.

HIS APICAL IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY? AND THEN HOW WOULD WE LOCALIZE IT? BUT HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WHAT WE DID WASWE RAN THROUGH YOUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND ASKED FOR THEIR OPINION ON APPLICABILITY.

OF THOSE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WHICH THEY SAID YES.

AND WE SAID THUS LOCALIZED, WE DID CHECKING ON THAT AND IT IS APPLICABLE HERE. AGAIN IT'S ALL BEFORE THE COURT. CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT FEE REQUIREMENTS THE MOBILITY FEE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH AGAIN, MOST RECENT LOCALIZED DATA AND REQUIREMENTS PARLIAMENT GO TO SUBPARAGRAPH F. IT SAYS ENSURE THE MOBILITY FEE IS PROPORTIONAL. THAT WOULD BE THE CHANGE, PROPORTIONALLY AND VISIBLY -- FOR CAPITOL FACILITIES EMPHASIZE THAT WORD AND INCREASE GENERATION BY NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEXT ONE IS THAT ENSURE THE MOBILITY FEE, EXCUSE ME SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED FUNDS COLLECTED UNDER THE MOBILITY FEE QUALITY CONSTRUCTING AND IMPROVING CAPITOL FACILITIES TO BENEFIT NEW USERS.

THE REASON I EMPHASIZE THAT, THAT SO OFTEN, THE DIFFICULTY ESPECIALLY IN TRANSIT BUSES IS NOT THE CAPITAL COST IS THE OPERATING COST. FREQUENTLY, YOU CAN GET GRANTS TO COVER THE COST OF CAPITAL, BUT NOT THE OPERATING.

AND IT SEEMS TO PRECLUDE USING MOBILITY FEES FOR OPERATING COST OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. FOLLOWING CALIFORNIA, THEY'VE DONE IT BUT THAT IS CALIFORNIA NOT FLORIDA.

I KNOW ONE COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY BY ORDINANCE TO USE MOBILITY FEES FOR OPERATING COST FOR THE BUS SYSTEM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE IT YET BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF LITIGATION. THAT WOULD AT LEAST BRING THE QUESTION, IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT BACK LOOKING AT THESE CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS. AND TYPICALLY, THERE IS A LIFE OF TWO YEARS OR LONGR AND IT USUALLY HAS A COST OF $2500 OR MORE. THAT'S USUALLY THE DEFINITION AND OPERATING COSTS DON'T MEET THE STANDARD AT ALL.

HOWEVER, THE BUS TRANSIT FACILITIES, THE MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS, THOSE WOULD MEET THAT STANDARD.

AND AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT MANY ARE DOING WITH THAT.

MOBILITY OPENS UP OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT OTHER FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION. IT REALLY IS SOME OF THE MOST DIFFICULT PARTS OF CONCURRENCY AND PERHAPS ENCOURAGE SOME DESIGN. URBAN DESIGN ISSUES AS PEOPLE COME TO USE OTHER MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION TO CUT THE EXTERNAL TRIPS IN A VARIETY OF OTHER MEANS.

IT'S ALL AVAILABLE TO YOU WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUIDANCE FROM THE LEGISLATURE YET. ON WHAT STANDARDS OR CRITERIA THE FEES ARE GOING TO BE HELD TO.

BUT THE STATUE SAYS THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE IMPACT FEES

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THEY'RE FINDING THE SYSTEM A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES.

WHICH AS YOU LOOK AT IMPACT FEES AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE COMBINED INTO THE MOBILITY FEE AND IMPACT FEE.

ISSUES WILL NEED TO RECONSIDER, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST OF WHICH IS LOCALIZATION AND DISTRICTING.

HOW FAR AWAY WE SPEND THE MONEY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY COULD ON MOBILITY FEES OR IMPACT FEES OR GATOR BASKETBALL!

>> THANK YOU, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I WILL THINK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TRIP AND FACING THAT TRAFFIC TO COME TALK TO US.

>> DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT! >> WE WILL HAVE TORECONVENE AGAIN ANOTHER 48 YEARS. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU READY TO FINISH UP? THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE BRIEF SEGMENT AND THEN WE WILL START, THE REASON I'M HERE IS TO HEAR FROM YOU, THE RESIDENCE.

WE THOUGHT WE WOULD FURNISH A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION TO GIVE YOU SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

WE WILL BE ALMOST DONE AND THEN HEAR FROM YOU.

>> I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN IMPACT FEE AND MOBILITY FEE, IMPACT FEE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE USING WHAT WE CALL CONSUMPTION BASE. AS USER CAPACITY, WE CHARGE A FEE. IT'S BASED ON A PLAN BASE SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE TO MOBILITY FEE, TAKES ABOUT 2 TO 3 YEARS IN ORDER TO DO SO.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DESIGNATION FOR ENTITLEMENT AND THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THOSE AND ASK, IF WE MOVE, AS TIME PROGRESSES, AND IF WE MAY COMPRESS A PLAN CHANGES, THEN IT AFFECTS OUR PLAN BASE IN ORDER TO CHARGE A FEE. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THAT AS WELL. WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT I WILL PUT IT UP HERE FOR FEE TRANSFER AND STATE STATUTES.

CURRENTLY, WE BASICALLY, STATE STATUTES SAY THAT WE, IF YOU HAVE IMPACT FEE, HOLDER OF IMPACT FEE CREDIT, YOU MAY TRANSFER THEM AND BASED ON THAT, WITHIN THE DISTRICT, OR WITHIN THE ADJACENT DISTRICT THAT HAS RECEIVING BENEFITS AND LOCAL ORDINANCE BASICALLY, IF YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, THEN IT NEEDS TO GO BEFORE LEE COUNTY COMMISSION IN ORDER TO MAKE THE CHANGE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT CONCURRENCY DEFINED BASICALLY, A PLANNING TOOL.

AND FOR TRANSPORTATION IT APPLIES TO ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR ROADS. SO BASICALLY, WHEN YOU COME IN WITH A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, IF THERE IS NO CAPACITY THAT WOULD HAPPEN, WE HAVE THE PROGRAM FOR YOU TO BASICALLY, PAY YOUR PROP SHARE TO DO THAT. CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE, THEN YOU JUST PAY THE IMPACT FEE AND MOVE FORWARD TO CONSTRUCTION.

AND PART D IS WHAT WE BASICALLY COME THIS THE REQUEST BY COMMISSIONER WALDRON. TO TALK ABOUT BASICALLY, PROVIDING ALL OF THE EVALUATION PRIOR TO TRANSMITTAL, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE HAVE, WITHIN ABOUT THE PAST EIGHT OR 10 YEARS, WE CHANGED THAT TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, YOU CANNOT HAVE CURRENCY UNTIL IT IS TRANSMITTED.HE REASON BEING BECAUSE REQUEST TO BE REQUIRED, BECAUSE THEY INVEST A LOT OF MONEY INTO ASSESSING THE IMPACT WHEN THEY ARE NOT SURE EVEN IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE APPROVAL FOR THE LAND-USE CHANGES.

AND THAT IS THE MAIN THING. THE OTHER THING IS THAT

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THUS WE HAVE A PAIR FREE. >> WHAT TO ESTIMATE THE COST TO BE? OF STUDYING WHAT CONCURRENCY

WOULD BE? >> I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE APPLICANTS HAVE TOLD ME THAT IT IS 100,000 IN ORDER TO DO THE

EVALUATION. >> ARE WE GOING BACK TO THE TRANSFERABILITY? --

>> CERTAINLY, DOCTOR NICHOLAS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT TRANSFERABILITY OF IMPACT FEES CREDIT?

>> THERE BEEN NO COURT CASES, THERE'S BEEN AWFUL LOT OF THREATS. SO FAR THEY'VE NOT GOTTEN TO COURT SO WE CANNOT GO FOR GOD IS THERE.

THE STATUTE IS AS YOU SEE, THERE IS TRANSFERABILITY BUT THEY DON'T SAY WHAT IT MEANS. AS MANY OF THE TRANSFER FROM DEVELOPER A TO DEVELOPER B? THE DEVELOPER A CAN TELL YOU FROM PROJECT NUMBER ONE IS PROJECT NUMBER TWO.

THERE IS NO GUIDANCE WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, TREMENDOUS FISCAL IMPLICATIONS TO YOU.

OF THAT DIFFERENCE. CREDITS A TICKET TIMEBOMB, NOT JUST FOR YOU BUT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

WHICH IS WHY SUNSETTING OTHER TYPES OF PROVISIONS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. MOST OF THE TIME THAT'S ALL IT IS IT'S A DISCUSSION. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE WAY TO GO. WITH TRANSFERABILITY MUST PROVIDE TRANSFERABILITY, WE ARE CLEAR ON THAT.

WHAT IS NOT CLEAR IS HOW AND TO WHOM.

AND I THINK THERE REMAINS DISCRETION FOR THE BOARD TO SET UP A SYSTEM THAT IS REASONABLE, WHICH IS THE USUAL STANDARD.

>> YES SIR, BECAUSE HOURS ARE SIGNED AGREEMENTS.

AND A SIGNED AGREEMENT FOR NOT BEING TRANSFERABLE.

>> YES. OF COURSE THERE'S CONFLICT WITH STATUTE. ON THAT AND THE ATTORNEYS WILL FIGHT THAT ONE THROUGH. WHICH TRUMPS ON THAT BUT IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE TRANSFERABILITY CERTAINLY IS REQUIRED AND THE STATUS OF THOSE OUTSTANDING AGREEMENTS OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH ON THEIR OWN.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ANYTHING NECESSARILY THAT I SEE THAT WOULD NEGATE THOSE AGREEMENTS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT QUESTION AND LEAVE IT TO YOUR ATTORNEY TO ADVISE YOU ON, BUT TRANSFERABILITY, YOU MUST PROVIDE FOR, HOW YOU PROVIDE FOR IT IS UP TO YOU.

[4. Additional Considerations for New Development Proposals]

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> WITH THAT WE MOVED TO THE LAST ITEM. WHICH BASICALLY IS ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD. WE WILL TAKE IT OVER.

>> EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY, CHRISTIAN HAS A QUESTION.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BEFORE YOU GET AWAY.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY HAVING LISTENED TO DOCTOR NICHOLAS UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLEX DEALING WITH TRANSPORTATION IS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

SOMETHING TO UNDERSTAND HERE, I SEE THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THE CURRENT TRIPS 13 DEFICIENT SEGMENTS THAT WILL COST $155 MILLION. JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, TO THE IMPACT FEES NOT MEET THE NEED OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR ARE

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HOWEVER, THE LAST TWO UPDATES THAT WE HAD SINCE 2013, 14 AND THEN 2018, THE COUNTY TOOK ACTION DUE TO THE RECESSION, BASICALLY, DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDED FEES SUGGESTED BY DOCTOR NICHOLAS, WE BASICALLY KEPT IT FLAT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND SUBSTANTIALLY, REDUCE COMMERCIAL, NONRESIDENTIAL. PART OF THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE LACK OF COLLECTION OF IMPACT FEES TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS FOR IMPROVEMENTS. THE OTHER ONE IS ALSO WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE SEEN THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION INCREASE UP TO ABOUT 30 OR 40 PERCENT OF COST.

WE NEVER ANTICIPATED THAT. THAT IT WOULD GO UP THAT HIGH AND SO IT IS ALSO, EVERYTHING WE BASED ON FOR COLLECTION AND FOR ESTIMATES OF COST THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO NOW BASICALLY, BASICALLY ANOTHER 30 PERCENT MORE WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE

FUNDING FOR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

WALDRON. >> YES, HOW DO WE, THE PROPORTION OF FAIR SHARES WORK FOR THE INFLATION? IS THERE A CHANGE IN THE FAIR SHARE OR NOT? ANOTHER IMPACT FEE CREDITS, HOW DOES THE AGREEMENT ESCALATE, WE SAY WE ARE UP 30 OR 40 PERCENT INFLATION ACROSS THE BOARD DESPITE WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO TELL US.

WHAT IS, HOW DOES THE AGREEMENT CALCULATE THAT?

>> THE CROP SHARE IS CALCULATED BASED ON THE TIME THAT THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION. AND THE DOLLAR THAT WE PROVIDE THEM BASICALLY, REMAINS AS IS. THERE IS NO INFLATIONARY FACTOR OR COST OF CONSTRUCTION FACTOR ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

IF THEY PROVIDE $1 MILLION IN TERMS OF PROP SHARE.

IT REMAINS A MILLION-DOLLAR OF IMPACT FEE CREDIT UNTIL THEY USE THAT. IF THEY USE IT THREE YEARS LATER FOUR YEARS LATER, IT STILL ON WHEN MILLION-DOLLAR AMOUNT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WHAT

YOU'RE ASKING. >> YES, I DON'T KNOW -- I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

WE HAVE RUONE -- THERE'S A HUGE COST DIFFERENCE.

THAT IS TO ME, IT'S ONE OF THE DEFICIENCIES WE HAVE.

AND THEY HAVE SOME THINGS THAT YOU HAVE INFLATIONARY TOOLS, BUT YOU HAVE -- WE NEED SOMETHING IN MY OPINION, THAT IS EXCLUDING THE FIGURE AS TIME GOES ON.

>> YOU MAY ALSO WANT TO TAKE A LOOK INTO ORDINANCE AS WELL, IMPACT THE ORDINANCE. IMPACT THE ORDINANCE ALSO ALLOWS THE PROBABLE COST ESTIMATE AT THE TIME THAT THEY SUBMIT IT WHERE THEY CAN COME BACK TO PROVIDE ACTUAL RECEIPTS IN ORDER TO REQUEST FOR IMPACT FEE CREDIT.

SO WE MAY WANT TO VISIT THAT AS WELL, JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE.

>> IF YOU HAVE A RECEIPT, 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY DID, THERE SHOULD BE A MULTIPLIER IN THE AGREEMENT THAT MAKES IT EQUAL. IT IS NOT THE COUNTY OR RESIDENTS FELT THAT THEY WAITED 10 YEARS.

OR IN SOME CASES 20 OR 30 YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHEN TRYING TO GET AT.

>> I AGREE. >> I WOULD RECOMMEND WE BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD. THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> ARE WEREADY FOR MINE? THIS IS SORT OF A WRAP UP.

I WILL ASK YOU TO BE COMPREHENSIVE YET CONCISE , YOU

FOLLOWTHAT? >> THE END .

>> THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER]

WELL DONE! >> SURE, AND IT IS TO WRAP IT UP.WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PROCESS.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE REVIEW, SOME OF THE COMMISSION EVEN HAD PUBLIC NOTICE HE HEARD THEM JUST TALK ABOUT SOME FACTORS WE CAN INTRODUCE INTO THE STAFF REPORTS THAT HELP YOU MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

HELP THE PUBLIC SEE WHAT IS THERE, WHAT'S AVAILABLE ULTIMATELY WE ARE HERE, WE HEARD SOME GOOD INFORMATION, WE HEAR FROM THE RESIDENCE OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, ARE WE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO.

WE HAVE SOME PRETTY STIFF CHALLENGES.

HOW WILL THESE REMEDIES TRAFFIC, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? INCREASED TAXES, GO TO MOBILITY

[Public Comment]

QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS, I'M PREPARED TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC WHICH IS THE PRIMARY REASON WHY I CAME TODAY.

I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE RESIDENCE AND WHAT IS ON YOUR MIND AND HERE IS I THINK THE BEST WAY OBVIOUSLY HAVE GREAT CROWD AND IT'S WONDERFUL. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF SPEAKERS AND I WANT TO DO THIS AS ORDERLY AS POSSIBLE AND KEEP IT MOVING AND ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T CHOOSE TO HAVE -- IT GETS CONFUSING, YOUR CROSSING OVER SO HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

I WANT TO CALL AND YOU AND I WANT TO START AN OLDER SECTION BY SECTION. THIS SECTION ON THE LEFT, THE MIDDLE SECTION ON MY RIGHT, AND I WANT TO START WITH THE FIRST ROAD, THE FIRST FOUR WORDS AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT FOUR AND THE NEXT FOUR. SO HOPEFULLY WHEN I CALL YOUR SECTION OR YOUR SUBSECTION, YOU CAN SORT OF FORM A LINE AT THIS MICROPHONE, THE MIDDLE OR ON THE RIGHT SIDE, ON THIS ONE, HAD TO PICK ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER I APOLOGIZE.

I WANT TO START ON MY LEFT. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THE LAW REQUIRES A STATE STATUTE TO GIVE A NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES, PLEASE PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO LIMIT THREE MINUTES BECAUSE IF I ALLOW SOMEONE TO GO FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES, EVERYONE ELSE IS SORT OF SHORTCHANGED, EVERYONE GOT THAT? LET ME JUST START, LET'S START, WE WILL TAKE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS WILL HEAR FROM YOU, PLEASE SPEAK IN ORDER AND I'M GOING TO CALL ON MY LEFT THIS SECTION, THE FIRST FOUR ROWS.

IT PUTS YOU FIRST IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, THREE MINUTES. JUST A SECOND.

THE FIRST FOUR OR FIVE ROWS, START LINING UP SO WE CAN FOLLOW IN AN ORDERLY FASHION. [INAUDIBLE]

>> YOU CAN USE ANY OF THOSE. >> ALL THREE PODIUMS. YES SIR, AFTER WE ARE FINISHED PUBLIC COMMENT WILL GO TO THIS

AND GO BACK AND FORTH THAT WAY. >> IF YOU WOULD PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE AND WE WILL GET STARTED. THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU PICTURES.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE FOR THE RECORD.

>> MY NAME IS ANNA, 171 -- DRIVE, NOCATEE.

>> THANK YOU. >> DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES. AND WE TALK ABOUT COST SCHEDULE TRANSPORTATION THIS IS HORRIBLE, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES AND I WILL TELL YOU, THEY ARE ALL REAL, ALL THE PICTURES ARE TAKEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE FIRST PICTURE IS IN NOCATEE -- THE INTERSECTION OF.

[INAUDIBLE] IT SHOWS YOU THAT YOU OVER BUILDING ROADS AND HOMES, NATURAL GROUNDWATER -- IT IS TURNING BEAUTIFUL FOREST

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AND IT IS TOO BAD YOU CAN SEE IT BUT YOU CANNOT SMELL IT.

IT SMELLS AWFUL! SO THIS IS PICTURES ON THE TOP SHOWING THE SWAMP. THEY TURNED BEAUTIFUL FOREST INTO OVERDEVELOPED INTO HORRIBLE WASTELAND.

NEXT PICTURE SHOWS THE TREES, THEY ARE DYING RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. I NEVER SAW ANYBODY, NO COMMISSION, NO CITY, NO COUNTY JUST CHECKING WHAT IS GOING ON.

PEOPLE ARE LIVING HERE, IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE NEXT PICTURE YOU CAN SEE A BUNCH OF DEAD FISH. ONCE A YEAR WE HAVE A MAJOR FISH KILL NO INVESTIGATION, PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT. THE -- IS NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. THERE IS NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK AND DO SOME ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY. BECAUSE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> THANK YOU. >> MA'AM, THREE MINUTES.

THE STAFF WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT SETTING UP AN APPOINTMENT OR A SITE VISIT, THANK YOU. SIR, NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

> MY NAME IS.

DRIVE. BASICALLY, BREVITY IS THE SOUL OF WIT, KEEP IT SHORT, CONCISE, TO THE POINT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUILDING OF ST. JOHN'S AND ALL THE GREAT CONSTRUCTION GOING ON. THAT'S WONDERFUL.

SOMETHING, JUST AN IDEA, A SUGGESTION.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MANPOWER TO DO ALL OF THIS.

I MAY BE A VOICE OF THAT MANPOWER I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, VETERAN, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS I'M GOING TO WORK. SUGGESTION, JUST AN IDEA, IF THERE IS SOME WAY IN WHICH WE HAVE THESE DEVELOPERS CAN MEET WITH GENERAL CONTRACTORS THAT CAN MEET WITH SUBCONTRACTORS, I KNOW YOU MAY BE THINKING THAT IS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEBSITE, A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEXT -- I WANT TO GET CONNECTED WITH BUILDERS, GENERAL CONTRACTORS, AND I WANT TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE I COULD ALSO, IF THERE IS LIKE A MEETING IF YOU WILL, WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME SAY, I WANT TO GO WORK.

THIS COULD HELP WITH MAYBE THE MANPOWER NEEDS FOR THE MANPOWER NEEDS TO MEET THE DEVELOP MENTAL THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S REALLY SOMETHING IN PLACE.

IF THERE IS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

>> THANK YOU. YES MA'AM?

>> GOOD MORNING. [INAUDIBLE] I COME WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. I'VE BEEN WATCHING FOR MONTHS AND I KIND OF PUT MY BUSINESS HAD ON AND WHEN I WAS IN THE EXECUTIVE ROLES, PEOPLE COME IN WANTING FUNDING AND IN A TIMELY PICTURE PROJECT THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT DOES IT DO THE REST OF THE WORLD? AND I THINK THE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE MISSING IS A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENTS ONE-ON-ONE. JUST THROW TOGETHER SOME EXAMPLES IN THE CORPORATE WORLD IS SWIM LANE, TO BE ABLE TO SHOW WHAT IS IN THE PIPELINE, WHAT IS OUTSTANDING AND WHAT WOULD THIS NEW PROJECT DO IF YOU ADD THAT AND SO YOU HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW.

BECAUSE THIS IMPACTS THE ROADS DISCUSSIONS AND IMPACTS WHAT IS THE DENSITY DISCUSSION AND UNDERSTANDING AS YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS. JUST A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I WILL LEAVE THIS, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. IT REMINDS ME OF MY PREVIOUS LIFE IMPACT. -- YES SIR?

>> MORMON NAME IS BRIAN ANDERSON.

104 CUPBOARD CREEK DRIVE IN NOCATEE.

EIGHT YEARS AGO I CAME TO THIS BUILDING AFTER ALMOST, LOSING

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THERE IS NO GOVERNING FOR THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SIDEWALK BUT THE SIDEWALKS GO RIGHT INTO A CEMENT POLE.

THERE IS NO CONTINUATION OF THE SIDEWALKS.

SO THEY WORTHLESS, THE FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT INTO A UTILITY POLE. AND, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE GOING ON. AS FAR AS KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL SAFELY, AND IN THAT AREA, THERE IS NOTHING, JUST DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT AND WITH NO, HOW WERE GOING TO GET FROM ONE PART OF THE AREA TO THE OTHER, WALKING OR RIDING A BIKE? SO THEN, JUST RECENTLY I SEEN PINE ISLAND AND THE BEAUTIFUL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, RIGHT AWAY THE COUNTY GOT SO BUSY AND PUT A BUNCH OF CONCRETE PAVEMENT DOWN TO CONNECT TO PHILLIPS HIGHWAY.

BUT THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. SO THESE KIDS ARE WANTING TO GO INTO THEIR LITTLE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THERE IS NO SIDEWALK, NO BIKE LANE JUST A TWO LANE CONNECTION RIGHT AWAY TO PHILLIPS HIGHWAY, SO THEREFORE IT IS GOING TO INCREASE MORE TRAFFIC COMING IN TO NOCATEE AND ANOTHER SHORTCUT AND I'M JUST TIRED OF THE SHORTCUTS WITHOUT ANY FORESIGHT OF SAFETY FOR THE PEDESTRIANS THE NEED TO WALK IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANKS. >> I'M SURE WILL FOLLOW UP AND THE COMMISSION WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO THE ISSUE. YES SIR, NAME AND ADDRESS.

CHRIS MINIMUS -- 2229. [INAUDIBLE] FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ON THIS WORKSHOP IS A CLEAR INDICATOR THAT THE CONCERNS WE ARE FACING ARE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY SO THANK YOU. REGARDS TO TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE IMPLEMENTING MOBILITY FEES ADDITIONALLY, AS ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS BROUGHT UP, THE COST OF INFLATION AND IMPACT LONG-TERM ON THE IMPACT FEES. HOW SHORT-TERM IS THE INFLATION? SPEAK WITH SEVERAL ECONOMISTS AND YOU'LL GET SEVERAL ANSWERS, WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON ECONOMIC TRENDS THE INFLATION WE HAD LAST YEAR MAY BE A LITTLE MORE LONG-TERM THAN MANY OF US THINK MORE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE, COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

CAN WE IMPLEMENT AN INFLATION FEE TO CURRENT EXISTING IMPACT FEES OR IMPLEMENTATION OF MOBILITY FEES THAT ARE JUST TWO OF THE 45 PERCENT BASED ON INFLATION RATES.

I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB SO FAR IN SUPPORTING CONCERNS OR SOME KEY REASONS WHY PEOPLE MOVE TO THE COMMUNITY. SCHOOLS.

TAXES, REGULATION. BUT OUR ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE ARE SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE GOING TO DO

OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE PHERE. MINIMUS GLENN LANDERS, RESIDENT AT FEBRUARY 9, 2001 SOUTH -- A RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY 30+ YEARS. NORTHEAST FLORIDA 40 YEARS.

MY BACKGROUND I'M A PROFESSIONAL CIVIL ENGINEER, 43 YEARS WITH US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AS A CIVIL ENGINEER SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AND SENIOR PLANNER, I WORKED ON

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I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, I'M RETIRED.

I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE IMPACTS IN YOUR FUTURE PLANNING.

SEALEVEL RISE IS IMPORTANT FOR ROAD ELEVATIONS AND WHERE YOU ARE BUILDING AND HISTORICALLY, OUR PLANNING HAS BEEN DRIVEN BY BUILDING DEVELOPMENTS ANTICIPATED OR PERMITTED AND IT NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN IN THE FUTURE AND BY CONSIDERATION OF THE LONG-TERM HUNDRED EURO 200 YEAR SEA LEVEL RISE IMPACT.

YOU'VE HAD ABOUT A FOOT IN THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS.

BASED ON DATA AROUND THE STATE. PRESENT RATES SEALEVEL RISE YOU HAVE THREE FEET OR MORE BY THE END OF THE CENTURY.

AND IF ANODIC AND SOME OF THE GREEN LINENS SHEETS COLLAPSE, YOU HAVE MORE. THOSE NEED TO BE CONSIDERED BUT ALSO, HURRICANE INTENSITY. WE SO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BAHAMAS RECENTLY. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANES AND MULTIPLE YEARS IN A ROW.

AS THE OCEANS WARM YOU CAN EXPECT MORE OF THOSE, THEY NEED TO BE PREPARED. THE IMPACTS ON YOUR WATER SUPPLY AND PEOPLE AND THE LAST THING WOULD BE, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSERVATION AREAS IN THE COUNTY.

BUT YOU KNOW SEALEVEL RISE COMES UP AND WATER CHANGES, THOSE AREAS THAT ARE TITLE AND SHALLOW WATER, THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO MARINE LIFE, THOSE ARE LIMITED AND WE BUILT UP TO THE EDGE OF THE WATER AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE IN THE FUTURE THERE. THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR SHRIMP

AND OTHER NESTING AREAS. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES MA'AM? NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.> HEATHER NOBLE 200 10/16 STREET, SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSION. JUST WANTED TO COME UP REAL QUICK I TOLD EVERYONE I WASN'T GOING TO SAY ANYTHING BUT I CAN'T SIT BACK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AS YOU ALL KNOW. I AM PARTNERED UP WITH A COHORT OF ONE OF DOCTOR NICHOLAS MENTEES ACROSS THE STATE TALK ABOUT MOBILITY AND INSTITUTING NEW ACCEPTABLE SCALABLE MOBILITY FEES AND ABILITY ASPECTS.

I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU I AM JUST BACK FROM WASHINGTON D.C..

I WAS APPOINTED TO A TASK FORCE ON PEDESTRIAN SAFETY SO YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION IN CONGRESS NOW.

BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHY I'M HERE.

I WAS HERE COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT MOELLER COMMISSION IS REFLECTIVE, THINK OF THE DIVERSITY AND AGE OF COUNTY, I LOOK AROUND THE ROOM, WE NEED TO GET SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INCLUDING ALL OF OUR FUTURE ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I ASKED LOOK AROUND AND I SEE THAT WE NEED SOME OTHER TRANSIT AND MOBILITY OPTIONS. SO THAT WE CAN KEEP ALL RESIDENTS OF THEIR AGING, MOBILE AND ABLE TO NOT BE STUCK INSIDE THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF SOME MOTOR VEHICLE USAGE.

I WAS HERE IN 2011 AND 12 AND 13 AND 14 AND 18.

PUSHING FOR FEES SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY PEERS POLITICALLY, WHILE WE ALL HAD SIMILAR POLITICAL VIEWS, WE DEPARTED AT THE IDEA OF HOW TO REFUND THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS FOR A LARGE CEI ENGINEER FORM BASED IN ST. JOHN'S I CAN TELL YOU OUR OVERRUNS ARE BETWEEN 20 AND 37 PERCENT RIGHT NOW BASED ON FIVE YEARS AGO ENGINEERING ESTIMATES. THAT'S JUST MATERIALS AND THE WAY THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW. I KNOW I'VE WORKED WITH VAUGHN AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES OVER THE YEARS TO TRY TO CHANGE THINGS. WITHOUT INCLUSIONARY DESIGNS, IT CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM FOR OUR DEVELOPING COMMUNITY.

WE NEED THE DEVELOPERS AS YOU SAW, AVERAGE COST PER SEGMENT, CANCELLATIONS $13 MILLION. THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WILL BE OUR KEY FACTOR. I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND SAY I THINK THE TIME HAS COME, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND INSTITUTE MAY BE SPEND LITTLE MONEY TO GET SOME PLANNING, SPEND A LITTLE MONEY TO GET SOME UPDATED DESIGNS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE BETTER CROSS SECTIONS ENDED UP WITH BETTER RESULTS THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY THERE SCALABLE OPTIONS OUT THERE WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND $10 MILLION A MILE, WE CAN SPEND 2 MILLION AND GET THEIR POSSIBLY WITH SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS

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AND WE CANNOT FORGET OUR HISTORIC COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL. I APPRECIATE IT.

I WILL GO BACK TO WORK NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. YES SIR?

>> BRIAN -- [INAUDIBLE] SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SERVICES AVAILABLE WITH ALL THE GROWTH.

I WELCOME IT AND LOVE IT. EVEN THOSE CAUSING TAXES, I WANT TO MAKE IT EASIER TO MAKE PRIVATE SERVICES PLUMBING AND HEATING AND AIR MECHANICAL, PIPE FITTERS AND WELDERS AND FOR PRIVATE AND COMMERCIAL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BEING DONE, LICENSE, ISSUANCE FOR PERMITS AND ONE FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. IT IS ACTUALLY EASIER FROM WHAT I FOUND FIRST MOVING DOWN HERE FOUR YEARS AGO TO GET A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING LICENSE THAN IT IS TO GET A GENERAL CONTRACTORS LICENSE. IN THIS KIND OF OPPOSITE -- DOESN'T USUALLY PROVIDE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IT'S USUALLY UP BUT A GENERAL CONTRACTOR CAN. THEY CAN DO PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, GENERAL, MECHANICAL, ANY OF THAT SORT OF STUFF. I JUST WANTED TO SEE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUS ON GETTING SOME OF THESE PRIVATE BUSINESSES OFF THE GROUND AS FAR AS SERVICES FOR SAINT AUGUSTINE ST. JOHNS COUNTY, AND OF ANY OF YOU HAVE CALLED FOR PLUMBER LATELY BUT IS KINDA SEVERE TO TRY AND GET SOMEONE.

AND PUBLIC SERVICES A NEW HIGH SCHOOL OPEN UP AND POLICE AND FIRE. DON'T FORGET ABOUT THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SIR.

YES MA'AM? >> MY NAME IS CATHERINE SANBORN. OLIVET 116 BAYHILL COURT.

I WANTED TO DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THE AUDIENCE AND WHEN YOU FAVOR OF RE DEVELOPMENT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, RAISE HAND? NOT O MANY. ONE OF THE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HEARING HERE TODAY IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONCERNS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLKS I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT MANY, IF NOT THE MAJORITY PERHAPS THE VAST MAJORITY OF FOLKS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT TO SEE A LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT. ESPECIALLY WITH THE RAPIDITY THAT WE HAVE SEEN. [APPLAUSE]

>> DO NOT INTERRUPT YOUR TIME, PLEASE DO NOT WITH CLOPPING OR BOOING BECAUSE INTERRUPT THE TIME.

YOU HAVE 10 MORE SECONDS. >> I APPRECIATE IT SIR.

I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AS WELL.

WE ARE HEARING DIVERSE VIEWS OF ANIMAL RIGHTS, CLIMATE CHANGE, INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT BEING PAID ENOUGH AND REIMBURSED BY THE DEVELOPERS ENOUGH BECAUSE WE DID NOT INCLUDE INFLATION CLAUSES WITHIN THE CONTRACT OR WITHIN ORDINANCES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE HAVE UNCONTROLLABLE GROWTH RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS AND BECAUSE IT HAPPENS SO RAPIDLY, MAY BE A GOOD IDEA TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE VARIED CONCERNS TO HAVE A PAUSE.

PAUSE FOR A BIT, AT LEAST ALL OUR OWN PLAN AND NOT GRANT VARIANCES TO DEVELOPERS WITHOUT THOUGHT TO A LARGER PLAN.

THAT PLAN NEEDS TO BE IN TODAY'S WORLD, NOT BASED ON 2008 TRYING TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO COME HERE.

IT'S WORKED, NOW WE NEED TO PAUSE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE DEAL WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

HOW WE FINANCIALLY SUPPORT IT, HOW WE KEEP ST. JOHN'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE. AT LEAST FOLLOWING OUR OWN ORDINANCES AND NOT GRANTING VARIANCES SO THAT IT ENCOURAGES

MORE DEVELOPMENT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MA'AM, APPRECIATE IT. NEXT?

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS VICKY PEPPER, I LIVE ON HARBOR VISTA CIRCLE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING CARE. CARE STANDS FOR COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY. CARE IS AN INFORMAL INDEPENDENT CIVIC ACTION GROUP THROUGHOUT SAINT AUGUSTINE.

AS CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, CITIZENS WHO VALUE RACIAL AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY AS YOU SEEK TO PROMOTE JUSTICE AND RACIAL EQUITY, IN THE INTEREST OF ALL CITIZENS, CARE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR CONDUCTING A PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS MANAGING GROWTH IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. AND ESPECIALLY FOR ALLOWING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

OUR COUNTY IS GOING VERY QUICKLY AND CARE WOULD AGREE

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BUT EVEN BEFORE YOU CONSIDER MANAGING THE INFLUX OF NEW PEOPLE TO THE COUNTY AND NEW DEVELOPMENT, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THOSE WHO ALREADY LIVE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. TO GOVERN FAIRLY AND MANAGE COUNTY RESOURCES EQUITABLY. ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE CITIZENS LIVING HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES LIKE HASTINGS, FLAGLER ESTATES AND WEST AUGUSTINE.

TO RESPONSIBLY JUST THE NEEDS OF THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US INCLUDING THE HOMELESS. WE STARTED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FIND GOALS AND OBJECTIVES WHERE THE COUNTY IS FALLING SHORT.OR EXAMPLE OVERARCHING GOAL AND HOUSING ELEMENT IS TO SUPPORT THE PROVISION OF MAINTENANCE OF INADEQUATE DECENT SAFE AND SANITARY HOUSING IN A VARIETY OF TYPE SIZES AND LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AT AFFORDABLE COST TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY.UESS WE FACE EVER GROWING HOUSING CRISIS THAT THREATENS SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY. NOT JUST THE MOST VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS. AS YOU KNOW, CARE HAS DRAFTED A PROPOSED HOUSING CONTACT FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

CARE SENT THIS TO HEAD OF TIME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO SPRING IT TO YOU IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

WE ENCOUNTER THE IDEA OF HOUSING COMPACT IN OUR RESEARCH AND DISBURSEMENTS ARE MORE COMPACT DEVELOPED BY PINELLAS COUNTY, WE TAILORED VISTA ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

AND EXPERTS COULD HELP. CARE BELIEVES ANY CREDIBLE EFFORT TO SOLVE THE HOUSING CRISIS STARTS WITH AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND BONA FIDE COMMITMENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORT, TO TACKLE THE PROBLEM IN A COLLABORATIVE COORDINATOR WHICH YOU PROPOSE HOUSING COMPACT WITH SERVICE FUNCTION AND WE ALSO NOTE THOUSAND COMPACT WOULD FIT NICELY WITH GOALS AND MANY OBJECTIVES AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL CORONATION ELEMENT OF THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR SEVERAL MEDICARE MEMBERS PLAN TO SPEAK ON OTHER ISSUES OFCONCERN BUT WE BELIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM STARTS WITH EVERYONE HAVING A DECENT , SAFE, SANITARY AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE. WE RECOGNIZE MUCH WORK REMAINS TO BE DONE ON THIS ISSUE OF A FULL HOUSE BUT PLEASE CONSIDER THIS COMPACT IS IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD A SOLUTION.

WE NEED YOUR LEADERSHIP. >> THANK YOU.

SIR, NAME AND ADDRESS? >>.

[INAUDIBLE] GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS WORKSHOP, THIS IS WHAT WAS NEEDED. YOU ARE LISTENING.

THIS COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN AND THEY CONTINUE TO SPEAK.

I'M PART OF CARE AS WELL. THE COMMUNITY IS WHAT GOING TO MAKE THIS WHOLE THING CHANGE FOR THE BETTER OF ALL.

I HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION, 44 PERCENT OF THE GROWTH IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY HAS BEEN IN NOCATEE AND -- I THINK WE NEED TO WATCH THAT BECAUSE THE OTHER 44 PERCENT GROWTH IS GOING TO CREATE THE WORST URBAN SPRAWL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT THE GROWTH.

WE NEED TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE IT.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HOMELESS BECAUSE ANYTIME WE TEAR DOWN THESE TREES AND BUILD SUBDIVISIONS, WE ARE MOVING THEM OUT. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN FOR THEM, CANNOT KEEP KICKING THIS DOWN THE ROAD, HOMELESSNESS IS GOING TO BE HERE AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEM HAVE 501 C3 WE HAVE CHURCHES, EVERETT OUT HERE, MONIES GOING EVERYWHERE BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE ONE CATALYST.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO APPLY IT AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY. WE DON'T WANT THEM OUT THE DYING AND THAT WAS BECAUSE HE OF DEVELOPERS BUILDING ALL THESE BUILDINGS. WE WANT TO WATCH THE URBAN SPRAWL, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE OUT OF CONTROL.

MAINLY, I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT HERE.

I SERVE MY COUNTRY AND I CAME BACK.

AND I'M SERVING MY COMMUNITY NOW.

WITHIN THE SERVING, HAVE TO LOOK AT MY GRANDMOTHER SHE'S 98 YEARS OLD. THESE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE, THE PEOPLE ALREADY LIVE HERE, SHE'S BEEN HERE 61 YEARS OF HER LIFE. AND THE CARE THAT SHE IS GETTING FOR HOUSING FOR ANYTHING, ROADS, IT'S RIDICULOUS. YOU CAN'T HAVE DEVELOPERS COMING IN HERE WHEN YOU RESIDENTS, LIFELONG RESIDENTS

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IF YOU CAN GIVE THEM CREDITS, AND GIVE THE RESIDENCE CREDITS.

MY LAST THING I SUPPORT THE COME BACK AND MR. WARREN, I APPRECIATE YOU RESPONDING SO PROMPTLY AND IN THE TRANSPORTATION, I LIKE WHAT PHEATHER SAID, SHE'S BEEN

INTERFERES. >> THANK YOU.

>> APPRECIATE IT. YES SIR?> GOOD AFTERNOON JUSTIN -- 130 -- I'M SORRY I JUST MOVED.

136 BROOKSTONE COURT. [LAUGHTER] I REPRESENT ST. JOHN'S MIDDLE SCHOOL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, I BEEN THE PRESIDENT FOR LAST SIX YEARS AND A BIT APPEAR SEVERAL TIMES SINCE I SPOKE WITH YOU GUYS.

I WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN RELATES TO SCHOOLS AND PARKS.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE OUR HANG UP AND WHERE WE STRUGGLE IT MAY INFLUENCE YOUR DECISION IN THE FUTURE.

WE ARE DEFICIENT IN PARKS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

WE ALL KNOW IT, YOU ALL HAVE ADMITTED TO IT AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT WE'VE HAD MEETINGS ABOUT IT.

I WILL ADMIT WE'VE GOT A PARKS DIRECTOR PLACE SEEMS LIKE THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD FINALLY, I'M HEARING ABOUT SOME ACTIVITY AND THAT IS EXCITING. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND CONTINUE TO BUILD SCHOOLS.

WE BUILT SCHOOLS ABOUT FIELDS AND ACTIVITY SPACE AND WHEN WE DO BUILD FIELD REPORT PORTABLE UNITS ON IT, TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY TO USE THE FIELDS FOR THAT PURPOSE.

IT PUSHES A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT USE THE FIELDS OUT TO THE GENERAL PARKS WHICH ARE ALREADY OVERFULL.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AT. WE'VE GOT A HUGE INTEREST IN SPORTS. WE'VE HAD OVER 4000 STUDENTS REGISTER FOR TRIALS LAST YEAR. IN VARIOUS SPORTS AND WE'VE TAKEN ABOUT HALF OF THOSE BECAUSE THE OTHER HALF WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL SPACE FOUR.

AND I WORRY ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE I WORRY ABOUT WHERE THEY GO, WHAT THEY DO, I WORRY ABOUT THEM NEVER PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS AGAIN I THINK THE SOLUTION FOR THAT, THE ONLY SOLUTION I SEE FEASIBLE IS FOR US TO BUILD MORE PARKS.

I'M PROBABLY ONLY PERSON IN THE ROOM TODAY WILL STAND UP HERE AND BEG YOU TO BUILD MORE PARKS.

I TYPICALLY AM WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMISSION MEETINGS, THE ONLY ONE ASKING FOR MORE PARKS. AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE SPACE.

THE PARKS AND WRECKED DEPARTMENT TALKS ALL THE TIME ABOUT WE HAVE 400 ACRES OF AVAILABLE LAND BUT NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD IT. SO I'M HERE ASKING AGAIN, THE MEETING WE WERE IN LAST WEEK, I HEARD ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO DICTATE WHERE THAT WENT. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO YOU DICTATED, DELEGATED SOME OF THAT TO PARKS.

I ASK YOU AGAIN, PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU ARE TINKING ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY GOES AND WHERE THE FUTURE GROWTH GOES. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE ROADS, SCHOOLS AND HOUSINGS AND ALSO REALLY NEED TO HAVE PARKS.

WE NEED SOMEWHERE FOR THESE KIDS TO GO.

SOME ARE FOR THE ADULTS TO GO AND AS THE POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW, THE SITUATION WILL ONLY GET WORSE.

ALREADY 10 YEARS BEHIND SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON BOOSTING THAT.

THANK YOU GUYS. >> THANK YOU.

YES MA'AM NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.> MINIMUS BOBBY -- 60 WEEDON STREET SAINT AUGUSTINE. I'M HERE AS AN INSTRUCTOR AT FLAGLER COLLEGE I RECENTLY TAUGHT A COURSE ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND CULTURAL IDENTITY. AS PART OF THE COURSE, WE SENT OUT A SURVEY IN DECEMBER THAT GAUGED PERSPECTIVES OF THE PARTICULAR RESIDENTS IN CITIES AND SAN AUGUSTINE, RECEIVED HUNDRED 75 RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY.

AND I'M HERE TODAY TO REPORT SOME OF THE RESULTS.

IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING DATA RELEVANT TO THE RESEARCH FOCUS PARTICIPANTS ALSO REPORTED ON ISSUES RELEVANT TO COUNTY AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. I AM HERE TO REPORT THE RESULTS. THERE WERE 44 MENTIONS OF THESE THINGS RELATED TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COUNTY.

OVER DEVELOPMENT, POPULATION DENSITY, TOURISM, LOSS OF LAND AND CUTTING DOWN OF TREES, EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC, BURDENS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, HOTEL PROLIFERATION AND COASTAL EROSION. NOW I WILL SERVE AS A MESSENGER FOR THE VOICES IN THE SURVEY AND READ VERBATIM SOME

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QUOTE WE NEED TO STOP ALL BUILDING WE HAVE ENOUGH HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, MOTELS ETC. OUR LAND AND WATER IS NOT REALLY OURS. WE ARE THE STEWARDS OF THESE RESOURCES FOR THE TIME WE ARE HERE.

WHILE THE CITY DOES A FAIRLY GOOD JOB OF THIS THE COUNTY DOES NOT. THE COUNTIES ALLOWING THESE RESOURCES TO BE OVERDEVELOPED AND THEREFORE, DESTROYED.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE A PLACE OF FARMING, CATTLE AND TREE FARMS AFTER CLEARCUTTING THE VEGETATION, LINDA SUGGESTED TO PAVING, MASSIVE HOME CONSTRUCTION AND ACCOMPANYING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE WATERWAYS AND NATURAL VEGETATION OF WILDLIFE. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERBUILDING IN THE COUNTY. WITH A LARGE INCREASE IN POPULATION AND TOURISM IS VITAL WE TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. WE ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP OF RESIDENTS TO THE LAND AND WATER.

WE ASKED HOW THE ENVIRONMENT SHAPED THEIR SENSE OF IDENTITY IN THE COUNTY AND CITY. HERE ARE SOME COMMENTS.

THERE IS TOO MUCH NEGATIVE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE. HIGH DENSITY PEOPLE AND BUILDINGS. ONSLAUGHT OF TOURISTS.

I FEAR THIS IS A CHANGING SERENITY OF THE AREA OF MY CITY. THERE IS TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT.

PROTECTED LANDS ARE BEING DEVELOPED.

HIDEOUS CHEAP AND UGLY HOTELS HAVE SPRUNG UP -- LEAVING THAT ONE'S OPEN AIR FEELING. AND LARGE LAND NOT TOUCHED BY HUMAN IS NOT POSSIBLE. TOURIST TRAP AM DISAPPOINTED WITH HOW THE AREA HAS EXPANDED SO RAPIDLY WITHOUT PROPER PLANNING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. QUOTE I CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. QUOTE A PLAYGROUND FOR TOURISTS.UOTE THEIR NEW BUILDS ON PROPERTIES THAT NOW

PFLOOD. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES?

>> I AM BRIANNA RUIZ 709 WEST -- I AM ONE OF THE STUDENT RESEARCHERS FROM THE COURSE. I WAS ABLE TO CONDUCT SOME OF THE PHONE SURVEYS THAT WE WERE GIVEN FROM THE ONLINE SURVEYS.

I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO SOME RESIDENTS.

AT A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVER DEVELOPMENT WITH GROWTH POPULATIONS.

WHEN INDIVIDUALS TELL ME HOW HE HAD LIVED IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, HE GREW UP HERE AND MOVED AWAY FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

CAME BACK AND WHAT WAS ONCE FIELDS AND ORCHARDS AND AGRICULTURAL SITES WERE NOW REPLACED BY BUILDINGS AND OVERPOPULATION. INFRASTRUCTURE AND HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE CLIMATE.

AND ALSO, ABOUT HOW IT CHANGED THE SMALL TOWN FEELING TO THIS BIG CITY KIND OF FEELING. I WILL NOW SERVE AS MESSENGER FOR THE VOICES IN OUR SURVEY AND READ VERBATIM THEIR STATEMENTS AND QUESTIONS SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE ON THE SURVEY, ONE WAS WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL GEOGRAPHICAL CHANGES YOU HAVE OBSERVED. SOME OF THEM WERE MORE DEVELOPMENT, ABSOLUTELY RELENTLESS DEVELOPMENT, BOTH IN THE CITY AND IN THE COUNTY AT LARGE.

ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN NEW BULKHEADS TO CREATE LAND WHERE THERE WAS NOT ANY. AND THAT IS TOO MUCH.

POPULATION DENSITY HAS GROWN OUT OF HAND.

I'M WORRIED THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE ALLOWING TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL CHANGE THE HOMETOWN FEEL WE CURRENTLY ENJOY. THERE'S TOO MUCH ROAD CONSTRUCTION. OUR DISTINCTIVE ENVIRONMENT AND GEOGRAPHY IS BEING DESTROYED DUE TO OVER DEVELOPMENT.

AND DISCRIMINATE CUTTING DOWN THE TREES WITH NO REGARD FOR THE EFFECTS OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, PROVES TOO MANY PROJECTS WITH ATTORNEYS TESTIFIES THAT NO TREES WILL BE TAKEN DOWN IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY WILL NOT NOTICE CHANGE, EVEN AFTER TREES, CLEAR-CUT COUNTY COMMISSIONER SAID NOTHING, SAID THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT BUILDING THE CONTINUES ON THE COAST ESPECIALLY ON THE FRAGILE BEACH.

ANOTHER QUESTION WE HAVE WAS ABOUT LEVEL OF CONCERNS.THE COUNTY HAS NO CONCERNS ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF THEIR APPROVALS ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF CITIZENS, ONLY SEEMS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT. STOP DEVELOPMENT.

THE CITY NEEDS TO CONTROL THE FLOOD OF DAYTRIPPERS, NONRESIDENTS, HE'S A LOCAL PARKS BOATS, RAMPS AND PUBLIC BATHROOMS AND PAY NO FEES OR TAXES TO SUPPORT MAINTAINING CITY FACILITIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU MYSTERIES. YES SIR, NAME AND ADDRESS

PLEASE. >> JOHN COULD TELL 324 VILLAGE DRIVE. I HEARD, HOW DO WE GET TO A

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AND YOU NEED US TO POINT THOSE THINGS OUT.

AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING GOING ON IN MY IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY. SOMETHING THAT THE DETAILS ARE GOING WRONG AND THEY'RE GOING WRONG AS A RESULT OF WELL-INTENTIONED PLAYERS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT INVOLVED. -- TOWNCENTER MIXED-USE DISTRICT HAS, PLAYS A GREAT PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN 2009 AND IT SAID THAT 33 PERCENT OF THE LAND BUILT SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR RESIDENTIAL, 33 PERCENT COMMERCIAL, AND AT 30 PERCENT LIMITED HOTELS SHALL NEVER EXCEED RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL BUILDOUT.

MAKES SENSE IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE AND PEOPLE DO NOT LIVE THERE IT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD AND RIGHT NOW I LOVE BEING IN THE TOWNCENTER BUT FEELS CREEPY AT NIGHT BECAUSE NOBODY LIVES THERE. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? USING A METHOD TO CALCULATE BUILDOUT, THE GROWTH DEPARTMENT LOOKED AT HOTELS, COMMERCIAL AREAS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

AND ONLY THE SQUARE FOOT AREA OF EACH HOTEL ROOM COUNTS AS BUILDOUT, NO HALLS, LOBBIES, PARKING LOTS, NOTHING ELSE.

ALL THE OTHER LAND OCCUPIED BY HOTELS DISAPPEARS.

PROOF! THE ENCLOSED FLOOR AREAS OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS COUNT. PARKING LOTS DON'T COME OUTDOOR DINING AREAS, AND DECKS, BEACHES, RESTAURANTS DON'T, NONE THAT COUNTS, PROOF, IT'S GONE.

TOTAL ENCLOSED FLOOR AREAS OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS COUNTS.

SO WHAT HAPPENS? THE RESULTS OF THAT, WELL-INTENTIONED PLAN, IS THAT HOTELS FILL UP THEIR SHARE OF LAND AND ONLY A PART OF IT COUNTS, COMMERCIALS ARE OVERFILLING THEIR SHARE OF THE LAND AREA ONLY PART OF IT COUNTS. RESIDENTIAL IS FIVE PERCENT.

WE HAVE 26 PERCENT OF VACANT LAND AND YET, ALMOST 70 PERCENT OF THE LAND IS TREATED AS VACANT.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE? THERE IS NOWHERE FOR RESIDENTIAL TO BE BUILT. WE WILL NEVER GET THE RESIDENCE UNLESS LAND IS RESERVED FOR THEIR USE.

WHAT WENT WRONG, THE METHOD BEING USED WITH THE GROWTH DEPARTMENT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR A AREA LIKE THE TOWNCENTER 25 ACRES. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, YOU CAN

FIX IT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER? YES SIR.

>> YES, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH DYLAN -- WHAT TO THINK ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF FOR HAVING THE WORKSHOP. IT IS BUSY HERE TODAY.

THERE ARE ABOUT 850 PEOPLE PER DAY MOVING TO FLORIDA.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT'S EQUIVALENT TO THE SIZE OF ORLANDO PER YEAR ABOUT AS MANY PEOPLE.

WE ARE DEALING WITH THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE BEACH.

WE HAVE OUR OWN ISSUES AS WELL BUT I'M HERE AS ONE OF FIVE TO LEND A HAND TO ANYTHING YOU MAY NEED.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE A COLLECTIVE SUPPORT FROM BOTH THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE, THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH AND THE COUNTY TO HELP THE RESIDENTS HERE AND MOVE FORWARD IN A POSITIVE MANNER. I'M HERE FOR YOU ALL AS WELL.

THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE YOU.

>> JOHN -- 11 PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD.

I'M NOT HERE WITH ANY SOLUTIONS.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE TASK FORCE. CTF IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, PONTEVEDRA COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION CHAIN, THE COALITION, THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF SAWGRASS, -- [INAUDIBLE] TWO OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE IN THE BACK. WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 85 PERCENT OF RESIDENTS OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ONE OF THESE GROUPS. WE DON'T PRESUME TO SPEAK FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, JUST MAJORITY IS REPRESENTED THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, CT TF WAS FORMED IN NOVEMBER 2014, TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND COLLABORATION OF ST. JOHN'S

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THE KEYWORD IN OUR NAME IS TRAFFIC.

THE KEYWORD ST. JOHNS COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT IS MANAGEMENT. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY NEED TO FOCUS NOT ONLY ON THE BENEFITS OF GROWTH BUT COST, PUBLIC SAFETY, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE, ALL OF THESE.

A THOROUGH ANALYSIS WILL LIKELY SHOW THE COST OUTWEIGH THE BENEFIT IN MANY CASES HENCE THE IMPORTANCE OF MANAGEMENT.

MORE HOMES GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS.

AND NECESSITATE MORE COMMERCIAL SERVICE POINTS, RETAIL STORES, AND OTHER BUSINESSES ALL OF THESE TRANSLATED TO MORE TRAFFIC AND UNLESS THE WORK IS EXPENDED THE GROWTH EFFECTIVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS IMPLEMENT A CONGESTION TO EXISTING ROADS IS INEVITABLE. FROM OUR EXPERIENCE, EVEN THE SMALLEST IMPROVEMENT TO EXISTING GROWTH TAKES SEVERAL YEARS AND GETTING A NEW ROAD TAKES DECADES.

ON THE OTHER HAND NEW DEVELOPMENT GENERATES TRAFFIC IMMEDIATELY. DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT PRIOR TO OR CONCURRENTLY WITH DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. IN SUMMARY, IT IS CRITICAL THAT GROWTH BE MANAGED BEFORE APPROVAL BY ADDRESSING ALL THE IMPACT OF DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.

AND ON EXISTING FACILITIES AND SERVICES.

>> THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> HEATHER -- 325 LOIS LANE. REALLY UNHAPPY TO BE HERE BECAUSE THROUGH THE CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO TELL THAT NOTHING YOU SAY TODAY IS GOING TO HELP. NOT IN THIS DECADE.

I BELIEVE YOU ARE OPERATING ON A CAR BUT HAS A PLAN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.

I CAME TODAY FOR ONE REASON, WHICH IS JUST LIKE THE GALLERY AND EVERYONE KNOW WHO LIVES HERE THAT TALKING TO YOU AS LOVELY AS YOU ARE AND AS INTELLIGENT AS YOU ARE, GET NOTHING DONE. SO I'M ASKING EVERYONE TO MAKE THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FOR THIS TYPE OF REPRESENTATION TO GET TOGETHER AND THEN GET TOGETHER FOR AN AREA AND THEN GET TOGETHER WITH ME AND WE WILL GRADUATE NEED TO GO. WHERE SPEAK IS READY TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE DOING THIS AS I SUSPECT MOST OF US DON'T. I DON'T, NOT A SPEAKER.

I'M VERY UPSET THAT WHEN IT CAME TO YOU ABOUT A PROJECT RIGHT NEXT TO ME AND STOKES LANDING TOWNHOMES AND ALL OF US TOLD YOU IT WAS BEING BUILT ON PROTECTED WETLANDS.

WE HAD A LOT OF CONCERN, A LOT OF CONCERNED FACES AND THEN THEY WERE APPROVED TO BUILD ON THE WETLANDS.

EVERY SINGLE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT TALKS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE. FROM COUNTY TO STATE TO FEDERAL. EVERY SINGLE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT TALKS ABOUT REPRESENTING CONSTITUENTS.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE TRY NOT TO LAUGH.

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING SO I'M ASKING PEOPLE BEHIND ME RESPECTFULLY, TO UNDERSTAND YOU CAN TALK TO THE PCOMMISSIONERS AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE IN THE COUNTY BUT YOU WILL NOT GET DONE WHAT YOU WANT DONE UNLESS WE DO IT OURSELVES. AND THE WAY TO DO IT AS I UNDERSTAND AND AM JUST LEARNING THIS, IS TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS. YOU CAN SEE THINGS ONLINE WHICH I NEVER KNEW. APPARENTLY, THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL WAY OF RUNNING A MEETING.

WE SHALL LEARN WHAT THE HECK THAT MEANS I THINK WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE WITNESSES APPEAR.

NO ONE IS EVER TOLD ANYBODY HOW THESE MEETINGS RUN, WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE SO WILLING TO HAVE HER OWN LAWYER, YOU HAVE LAWYERS. WE NEED TO HAVE OUR OWN REPRESENTATION, MOVING FORWARD WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP WITH US PROBABLY IN MY LIFETIME.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT US1, WHICH I LIVE OFF OF, MY FOREMOST MARKET, HAS NO PLANS TO BE EXPANDED OR WIDENED.

I MEAN, -- HAD UP THERE AND I DID NOT SEE IT WAS ONE OF THE PROPOSED THINGS TO WIDEN. BUT WE ARE GOING TO PUT HOW MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW PEOPLE ON THE ROAD IN CARS AND EVACUATE IN A HURRICANE? ON OUR BICYCLES?

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THANK YOU. >> YES SIR, NAME AND ADDRESS?

? >> BLAKE PATTERSON, 1127 S. -- JUST NORTH OF THE LLANO BEACH. BEEN HERE THREE YEARS AND EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND THANK GOD THAT I'M LIVING HERE IN THE FIRST COAST AND GOT COUNTRY AND I MANAGED TO GET AWAY FROM THE NORTH BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE EDUCATION TODAY ABOUT THE POTENTIALLY STUNNING SHORTFALL THAT WE HAVE IN TRANSPORTATION FUNDING.

AND FOR SHOWING US HOW COMPLEX THE FEE STRUCTURE COULD BE OR CURRENTLY IS DEPENDING ON HOW TO USE IT I WANT TO PLANT THAT LEGISLATION IS CURRENTLY WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH TALLAHASSEE RIGHT NOW. THAT I THINK IS GOING TO VERY ADVERSELY AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

PERHAPS YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE OF THEM BUT THE SENATE BILLS I BELIEVE 260, 620 IN HOUSE BILL 569.

THESE WILL FORCE THE LOCALITY AND OR MUNICIPALITY INCLUDING I BELIEVE, THE COMMISSION TO CONDUCT BUSINESS, LOSS ESTIMATES, PRIOR TO PASSING ORDINANCES AND ALSO CREATE A FAST TRACK OF A SUPERHIGHWAY FOR BUSINESSES TO FILE CLAIMS FOR LOSSES THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE SUSTAINED AS A RESULT OF PASSAGE OF AN ORDINANCE. THIS NOW TRANSFERS POWER FROM YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN COME UP TO THE STATE AND OBVIOUSLY SERVES AS A POTENTIAL BOON FOR TRIAL LAWYERS AND BUSINESSES THAT PERHAPS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A VALID CLAIM, PERHAPS THEY WANT TO GO TO BUSINESS AND NOW THEY WILL CLAIM SEVEN YEARS OF LOST PROFITS. TO ME, THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF CONSERVATIVE GOVERNANCE. THINK YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE LEGISLATION WILL HAVE AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE PASSED MOST OF THE COMMITTEES.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING BILL WAS OUR DIRECTOR OF ST. JOHN'S HOUSING PARTNERSHIP 525 W. KING STREET.

I'M HERE TO BRING UP SOMETHING IN THE MIDST OF ALL THIS GROWTH MANAGEMENT DOESN'T ALWAYS ADJUST THAT.

YEARS AGO WE DID AND WE HAD A CLUB IN DRL REGULATIONS, IN 2000 I VOLUNTEERED FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS WITH ST. JOHN'S VISION.

SOME OF YOU REMEMBER THAT. IT WAS A BIG COMMUNITYWIDE DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT WE NEED PARKS, SIDEWALKS, ROADS, BETTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. AND THEY DID IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT AND WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT. ALL OF US, NOT PASS IT OFF ON THE NEWEST GUY MOVING AND NOT PASS IT OFF ON THE DEVELOPERS.

WE HAVE TO SIT AND SAY IF WE WANT TO FUND THIS, THERE HAS TO BE FAIR SHARE. I'VE HEARD FROM Y'ALL FOR YEARS WHEN YOU GO TO TALLAHASSEE THEY TELL US OR YOU THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T CHARGE, WILL MAX OUT OUR GAS TANKS AND SALES TAX REVENUE, WE DON'T GET AS MUCH OR SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FROM THE LEGISLATURE WHEN THEY SAY EVERYBODY NEEDS SOME EXTRA MONEY FOR PROJECTS. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TEXTING YOURSELVES AND IF WE KEEP PUTTING OFF OF THE NEW FOLKS AND BECAUSE THERE IS A BOOM AND LORD KNOWS THAT WE BELIEVE FIVE OR 600 PERMITS PER MONTH NOW, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FEE, THE PROPERTY TAX MONEY COMING IN SOUNDS LIKE AN AWFUL LOT BUT IF WHAT FONTS IS AS CLOSE TO ACCURATE IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ADDRESSING EXISTING ROAD STRUCTURE.

THE BIG CHALLENGES AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN'T COVER INFRASTRUCTURE. THE DEVELOPERS CAN'T PASS IT OFF AND HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE MORE CREATIVE LEADERSHIP THAT SAYS IF WE WANT IT, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE AND FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CAN DO IT AND STILL HAVE HOUSING FOR THE WORKFORCE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE ROADS CLOGGED UP OUR PEOPLE DRIVING INTO WORK, WHETHER IT'S WORKING FOR THE COUNTY OR WORKING FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT OR FOR THAT HOTEL, THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE HERE BUT THOSE ARE CHALLENGES.

I THINK Y'ALL ARE SEEING IT. I KNOW THE CITY, THERE'S A MEETING LAST NIGHT AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.

THEY CANNOT HIRE FULLY BECAUSE THEY CAN OFFER COMPETITIVE WAGES FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO IF WE DON'T TAKE THAT PART SERIOUSLY AND WE NEED Y'ALL TO LOOK AT IT, I WOULD THINK IF YOU RELIANT DEVELOPERS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PLANNING ITS ANARCHY BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN REALLY DO OR WHEN THEY WILL DO IT OR WHAT THE TIMES WILL BE. IT MAY NOT HAPPEN Y'ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CRA METHODOLOGY FOR HIGH IMPACT THE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN IGNORED. I THINK YOU CAN APPLY THAT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ENTIRE COUNTY AND SAY OKAY, PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT THAT'S HER GOD-GIVEN RIGHT YOUR PROPERTY BUT IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE IT WHETHER IT IS DENSITY OR ANYTHING ELSE COME HELP US ALL

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WE'VE GOT BUSINESSES THAT ARE BUYING RENTAL HOUSING FOR THE EMPLOYEE BECAUSE I CAN'T FIGURE OUT ANY OTHER WAY TO STABILIZE

THEIR OWN BUSINESS PLAN. >> THANK YOU.

>>. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, I MOVED 25 YEARS AGO FROM A BIG CITY OF NORTH, FILM LOVE WITH SAINT AUGUSTINE. NOW 25 YEARS LATER, THE BIG CITIES COMING TO ME. AND IT SEMS LIKE WE WANT TO BE MORE WITH A FOCUS ON THE $ AND WE -- THE PLACE, EVERYTHING IS IN DESPAIR AND THEREFORE -- MY FRIEND WAS TELLING ME MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE COUNTY COMMISSION OF THE PHILA COUNTY IS BEEN SOLD OUT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. AND THUS AWARE FILL A LITTLE BIT TOO. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDERATION, IT IS HELPFUL TO SEE -- TREES ARE GONE AND NOTHING TO REPLACE IT. WHEN WE ARE BUILDING WE MAKE MONEY, IN THE END IT WON'T BE ANYTHING TO LOVE IT WILL BE A LITTLE TOWN -- THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, JAN -- RIVER KEEPER -- IN NOVEMBER 2019 OUR ORGANIZATION ALONG WITH SEVERAL PARTNERS HOSTED A PROJECT CALLED ST. JOHN'S COUNTY 2070.

BASICALLY WE PUT TOGETHER ABOUT 300 STAKEHOLDERS TO LOOK AT GROWTH MANAGEMENT TRENDS LOCALLY LOOK AT WHAT PROJECTED POPULATION AND LAND USE FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN 50 YEARS I.E. THE YEAR 2070 AND OFFER SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO GROW OUR COMMUNITY AND MORE SUSTAINABLE MANNER. A COUPLE OF YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

I APPRECIATE THAT THE REST OF YOUR HAPPINESS IN THE REPORT WE CREATE APPEARED A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND FRANKLY WHO CAN BLAME THEM? IT'S A FANTASTIC PLACE TO LIVE BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE ENJOY WE NEED TO MAKE SOME REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND DRAMATIC CHANGES TO HOW OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TASK SO THAT YOU PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAME UP WITH AS A RESULT OF OUR ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY 2070 REPORT. TO BEGIN, ON A BROAD LEVEL THERE'S EEN A RECENT TREND TOWARDS OUR STATE LEGISLATURE PROMPTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM REGULATING THEMSELVES AS ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS MENTIONED AND UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF THESE BILLS ARE COMING FROM THE SAME LEGISLATORS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE BEST INTERESTS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. I LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE YOUR POSITION AS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO PUSH BACK AGAINST SOME REGULATIONS. LOCAL ISSUE SHOULD BE RESOLVED LOCALLY. IF YOU ARE CONSTRAINED AND PROMPTED BY STATE LAWS AND WE ARE SEVERELY LIMITED WITH HOW WE CAN DO WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT HERE AT HOME.

ANOTHER ISSUE LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THAT WE NEED TO ADHERE MORE CLOSELY TO OUR CURRENT COMPANY IS A PLAN AND STOP AMENDING IT SO FREQUENTLY OUR COMPANY HAS A PLAN IS REALLY THE DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES HOW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IF WE ARE COSTLY CHANGING IT THE PREDICTABILITY FOR RESIDENTS OR DEVELOPERS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN LIVE AND BUILD WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE PLAN. IN THAT VEIN I LIKE TO SUGGEST ELIMINATING POLICY A 194 WHICH IS A SECTION OF THE COMPANY IS A PLAN THAT REQUIRES PUD IS FROM DEVELOPMENTS IN MIXED-USE DISTRICTS THAT ARE 10 ACRES OR LARGER.

USING STRAIGHT ZONING RATHER THAN PUD MAKE APPLICATION REVIEW A LOT EASIER FOR STAFF AND ALSO MAKE THE BUILDOUT PROCESS A LOT MORE PREDICTABLE FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPERS AS WELL. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST DENYING ALL APPLICATIONS FOR LAND USE INTENSIVE OCCASIONAL SET OF BOUNDARIES AREAS A SMOCK WITH SUGGEST TO DEVELOP SHOULD GO NEAR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY -- THE PROVISION IS ALREADY IN A COPY OF THE PLAN WE JUST NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB APPEARING TO IT.

FINALLY I LIKE TO RECOMMEND PROVIDING DIRECTION TO STAFF AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THE THRESHOLD FOR GRANTING VARIANCES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, A VARIANT SHOULD BE THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE IT SHOULD NOT BE THE NORM, THE MERE DESIRE FROM A DEVELOPER TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT MEET THE UNDUE HARDSHIP REQUIREMENT TO ONE OF VARIANT, I'D LIKE TO

SPEAK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THESE. >> THANK YOU.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, JIM REINHART ON REPRESENTING THE CASCADES 55 AND OVER

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IN 2020 COUNTY AND COMMISSIONERS AND LUXURY OF SURPLUS BUDGET. ONE PARTICULAR ITEMS IN THERE WAS TO CONSTRUCT A LIBRARY DONOR IN ADDITION IT WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE A SMALL REGIONAL PARK.

AN INDIVIDUAL SAID NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PARKS, WE ARE CONCERNED AND WE WOULD REALLY -- THE QUESTION IS, VERY SPECIFIC. THE FUNDING IS STILL IN PLACE, WHAT IS A CONSTRUCTION GOING TO BE INITIATED? THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THERE WAS SOME PRELIMINARY THOUGHT GIVEN AS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM TO HAVE A SOUND BARRIER ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF 95 ALONG THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS BEEN FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, NOT ENOUGH THERE BEEN DECISION-MAKING BECAUSE OF -- TO ELIMINATE THE SOUND BARRIER.

CASCADES RESIDENTS, MANY OF THEM LIVE ALONG THAT PARTICULAR AREA. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND ASK CONSIDERATION STILL BE GIVEN TO THE SOUND BARRIER.

TALK ABOUT QUALITY OF LIVING. THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL. WITH THAT, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING. ONE THING I HAVE NOT HEARD MUCH OF, IS THE WORD BALANCE. GROWTH DEVELOPMENT BALANCE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE FOREFRONT.

THANK YOU. >> WOULD YOU GET WITH -- AND GIVE AN UPDATE? THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THOSE IN LINE TO USE BOTH PODIUMS. THAT MIGHT HELP THINGS MOVE LITTLE BIT.

>> ELIZABETH SMITH -- I LIVE IN ANASTASIA ISLAND WITHIN CITY LIMITS. I ATTENDED A MEETING LAST NIGHT OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. THERE HE LEARNED THAT THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE IS 90 PERCENT BUILT OUT.

I WAS STUNNED BY THAT STATISTIC.

VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT LAND CONSERVATION, I ALSO LEARNED LAST NIGHT AT THE COMMISSIONERS MEETING, THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE OF STORMS OF SEVERE WEATHER CAN BE MITIGATED BY LAND PRESERVATION. FLORIDA FOREVER IS LARGEST CONSERVATION AND RECREATIONAL LAND ACQUISITION BODY IN THE STATE. HAVING PRESERVED NEARLY A MILLION ACRES SINCE CONCEPTION INTO THIS ONE SADLY, FLORIDA FOREVER IS UNDERFUNDED.

THIS LACK OF FUNDING MAKES SECURING LOCAL CONSERVATION PROJECTS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE COMPETITIVE.

IN PARTICULAR, I'M INTERESTED IN THE FLORIDA WILDLIFE CORRIDOR ACT WHICH WAS PASSED LAST JULY 2021.

CAN THE COMMISSIONERS ADDRESS THIS FUNDING DEFICIT BY PRESSURING THE STATE TO FUND FLORIDA FOREVER AT A LEVEL OF AT LEAST $300 MILLION ANNUALLY. THIS WILL HELP US IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND HELP US WITH RESILIENCE AND THE FLORIDA WILDLIFE CORRIDOR ACT CREATES, LOOKS AT EVERYTHING AS AN ECOSYSTEM SO IT CREATES PATHWAYS FOR ANIMALS TO LIVE AND THRIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS WARREN CLARK I LIVE AT 702 -- SARAH ARNOLD WELCOME HERE.

MY BEST FRIEND WAS DAVID ARNOLD GROWING UP, PERHAPS HE IS A RELATIVE OF YOURS. AND SO, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT IN A DEMOCRACY THERE ARE TWO SOURCES OF POWER. PEOPLE AND MONEY.

THE INFLUENCE OF PEOPLE THROUGH VOTING, ADVOCACY AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS WE ARE DOING TODAY.

THE INFLUENCE OF MONEY SO BUSINESSES CAN BE PROFITABLE AND NOT UNDULY HAMPERED BY ORDINANCES AND LAWS.

TODAY, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT GROWTH MANAGEMENT RIGHT HERE IN

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YET, WHILE WE ARE DOING THIS, THERE IS A BILL IN TALLAHASSEE THAT WAS REFERRED TO EARLIER. THAT WOULD MAKE MANAGING GROWTH IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY LESS BALANCED, IT COULD TIP THE SCALE IN FAVOR OF MONEY. SENATE BILL 280 WOULD REQUIRE COUNTIES AND CITIES TO PROVIDE BUSINESS IMPACT STATEMENT BEFORE PASSING ORDINANCES. ANOTHER BILL SB 620 WILL ALLOW BUSINESSES TO SUE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IF REVENUES OR PROFITS FALL AT LEAST 15 PERCENT BECAUSE OF A LOCAL ORDINANCE. AND IF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE CHALLENGED IN COURT, WE WOULD HAVE TO SUSPEND ENFORCEMENT OF AN ORDINANCE BLOCKING THE LOCK. WOULD LAWYERS AND BUSINESSES BE INCENTIVIZED -- OR TO SUIT OR BLOCK ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCES? DOCTOR FRANKLIN SPOKE OF THE IMPACT OF LAWSUITS AND COUNTIES EARLIER ON. WITH JUST THE THREAT OF LEGAL ACTION BY COMPANIES MAY WELL INTENTIONED, ELECTED OFFICIALS LIKE YOURSELVES, MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS, WITH THIS WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR GOVERNMENTS TO RESPOND TO CALLS BY VOTERS TO BALANCE FOR PROFIT DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE NEEDS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. PRESERVATION OF OUR TREE CANOPY, CLEAN AIR AND WATER. SB 280 AND 260 ARE BEING PROMOTED AS NEW TOOLS FOR BUSINESSES TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST LAWS THEY VIEW AS HARMING THEM AND FOR COUNTY AND CITY GOVERNMENTS, THE FUTURE COULD BE FILLED WITH LAWSUITS FROM THE VALID TO THE FRIVOLOUS.

I URGE US COMMISSIONERS, TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THESE BILLS, THE BILLS MAY BE WELL-INTENTIONED, BUT THE RESULT COULD HAMSTRING THE LOCAL COMMUNITY WITH LOSSES.

PLEASE ASK OUR LEGISLATORS TO VOTE NO ON SB 260, 620 AND HB 403. I ALSO RGE PARTICIPANTS HERE TODAY TO CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT THIS.

BECAUSE IT UNDERCUTS EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> HELLO, MY NAME IS PATRICIA SIMMONS.

I LIVE AT 234. [INAUDIBLE] I LIVE IN AN AREA KNOWN AS WATSON WOODS. IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE WATSON WOODS FOR MUCH LONGER BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE INCH OF WORDS AND TREES THAT I PASS EVERY DAY, NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO IN THE COUNTY IS FOR SALE.

AND BEING CHOPPED DOWN FASTER THAN ANYBODY CAN KEEP UP WITH.

THE ROADS, THAT WE TRAVEL ON A GOING TO BE SO CROWDED THAT WE WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AT THE INTERSECTION OF US1 AND WATSON ROAD, THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT HAS BEEN CLEARED OUT AND IT WAS SWAMPLAND AND FOR MONTHS THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING DIRT IN THE AIR. AND THE ENTRANCEWAY TO THIS WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE INTERSECTION OF US1 AND WATSON ROAD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO TRAFFIC THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT, I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD GET OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE ANIMALS ARE BEING RUN OUT, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.EVERY SINGLE TREE THAT I SEE WHEN I PASS IS A FOR SALE SIGN IN FRONT OF IT. THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE IS HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THERE IS NOTHING BUT SIDEWALKS, DEER RUNNING UP AND DOWN BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING RUN OUT OF THEIR PLACE. HOW IS THE ENTIRE COUNTY WITH ALL OF THE WOODS AND ALL OF THE TREES AND GREEN GOING TO BE TORN DOWN. AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO SURVIVE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT IN THE TRAFFIC.

AND THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT THAT I HAVE TO MAKE IS, WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION, AND GETTING AROUND, SOME THINGS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE BECAUSE PUTTING US ON VICES AND BICYCLES WILL NOT WORK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS STEVE LACEY.

200 CAROLINA JASMINE LEHMAN -- I WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF.

I'M NOT HERE TO REPRESENT ANY ENTITY OR AGENCY.

JUST A FEW COMMENTS. PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER TAKING THAT A LITTLE FURTHER INTO A STRATEGIC PLAN APPROACH.

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HE SCANNED THE LIST IS NOT THERE.

AND THUS A VERY IMPORTANT AREA TO CONSIDER IN ANY KIND OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT APPROACH APPEARS STRATEGIC PLANNING APPROACH WOULD INCORPORATE ALL OF THAT MOVING FORWARD.

THE CHALLENGE YOU GOT NOW IS YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD AN AIRPLANE WHILE IT STILL FLYING. SO YOU NEED TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE AREAS INVOLVED IN THE MANAGEMENT OF GROWTH FOR THE COUNTY. I'VE LIVED IN FLORIDA 40 YEARS AND PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR OF THE STATE WE ARE NOT THE FIRST AREA TO GO THROUGH THIS. THERE ARE OTHER AREAS, THE LAST COUPLE OF THINGS I WILL MENTION IS IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA, THERE'S AN AGENCY CALLED FLORIDA'S GREAT NORTHWEST WHICH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH TO MANAGING WHAT YOU'RE FACED WITH NOW. OTHER COMMENT IN CLOSING I WANT TO MENTION IS, I MENTIONED AIRPLANE, WE HAVE A LANDLOCKED AIRPORT NOW. WHAT DOES THE FUTURE HOLD FOR AIRFLIGHT TRANSPORTATION IN THE COUNTY? ALSO, IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA, THEY BEEN THROUGH THIS, IT WAS IN NORTHWEST FLORIDA BEACHES INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE BUT PANAMA CITY HAD THE AIRPORT COMPLETELY LANDLOCKED. AROUND THE INLAND WATERS.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS ENCROACHING ON THAT THEY HAD NOWHERE TO EXPAND. THEY COULDN'T GROW.

THEY MOVED OUT OF THE AREA AND INTO YOU KNOW, THE FARMLAND COMMUNITY. AND THEY ARE NOW USING THAT AS A DEVELOPMENT COURT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

GO FOR IT. LAST COMMENT, IF THIS REQUIRES SALES TAX, LET'S DO IT, THE SOONER THE BETTER.

THE COMING ECONOMIC CHALLENGES NATIONALLY -- RATES GO UP, INFLATION GOING UP, IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG YOU'LL MISS YOUR

WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> MY NAME IS PATRICK HAMILTON, 201 OWENS AVENUE SAINT AUGUSTINE CRESCENT BEACH. SEEMS TO ME THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WE HAVEN'T IS BECAUSE WE ARE SUCH UPTIGHT SOME AREAS OF URBAN AREAS WITH GOOD FOOD AND LOTS OF ENTERTAINMENT AND GOLF AND HISTORIC AREAS AND NATURAL AREAS, WE PROMOTE RESEARCH AND CLEAN ENOUGH WATER FOR -- AND CLAMS WHICH ARE BRAGGING RIGHTS AND WE HAVE AGRICULTURAL AREAS. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF THIS COUNTY, FRIENDS OF SOUTHERN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.

I'VE COME TO JUST TO TALK ABOUT REALLY, ONE TOOL FOR PRESERVING THOSE TWO USES IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY.

THE CLEAN AND PRISTINE AREAS DOWN SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 206 AND ALSO THE FARMING AREAS. FLORIDA FOREVER IS WILDLY POPULAR WITH THE PUBLIC. WE CLEARLY NEED A MINIMUM BETWEEN 300 AND $500 MILLION TO ADDRESS THEIR AREAS AT ALL.

I ASK THAT THIS BOARD AS TOP PARTY BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, ASK THE DELEGATION TO PROMOTE FLORIDA FOREVER AND RURAL IN FAMILY LANDS WHICH ALLOWS FARMERS TO MAKE MONEY, IT ALLOWS US TO KEEP GENERATIONAL FARMS AND ACTION IT PUTS MONEY IN OUR COFFERS AND IS GOOD FOR COUNTIES TO HAVE THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS. HERE ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO, THE COUNTY RE-RANKED FLORIDA FOREVER AREAS.

THE COUNTIES THAT DID NOT GO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND THEIR FLORIDA FOREVER PROJECTS WHICH WE HAVE THREE IN THE COUNTY, LOST GROUND.HEY PUT YOU AS LESS HIGH-PRIORITY.

THE COUNTY NEEDS TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THAT PROGRAM, THE NEED TO DEFEND IT. IT IS EASY TO DEFENDANT NOT ONLY THAT WE CAN BUILD OUR RANKINGS.

AGAIN, THE, TO PROMOTE THE NEWEST PROJECT -- AS MR. LANDERS WAS SAYING FROM THE CORPS -- IF WE BUY LANDS THAT ALLOW THAT MIGRATION INLAND, WE CONTINUE THOSE FUNCTIONS.

AND IT IS IMPORTANT NOW AND IT IS NOT HARD TO PROTECT THOSE

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WE HAVE GOOD STRONG LEADERSHIPS FROM OUR AREA RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. >> HI, MY NAME IS SUSAN JANICE OTHER 4280 COASTAL HIGHWAY SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'VE BEEN INCREASINGLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RAPID GROWTH OVER THE PAST DECADE AS EVIDENCED BY INCREASED TRAFFIC AND PARKING PROBLEMS. I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE CURRENTLY RUN 56,000 ALREADY PERMITTED HOMES APPROVED THE HAVE YET TO BE BUILT. JUST TRYING TO FORM A STATEMENT TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY WAS DAUNTING.

DUE TO THE EXTREME COMPLEXITY OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT. AS I'VE DELVED INTO THE PLAN AND RESEARCH EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE PLAN, I REALIZE HOW CHALLENGING THIS IS. I SEE MANY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

INCLUDING SUPPORTIVE AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING NEEDS FOR THE HOMELESS BALLS JOB TRAINING AND FACILITATING AMPLITUDE IS TO TRANSITION TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VERY LOW AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS.

HOWEVER DON'T SEE THIS ADDRESSED SPECIFICALLY IN THE APPROVED PLANS MENTIONED. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAD BY RENTING SMART GROWTH TO PRESERVE OUR QUALITY OF WATER AND NATURAL BEAUTY. WHEN YOU SEE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, PLEASE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

LIKE WEST AUGUSTINE, AND HASTINGS.

MANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS WERE OFFERED TO THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY REPORT AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE THESE AS GUIDELINES.

AS A MEMBER OF COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DOCK THE HOUSE AND COMPACT WE PROPOSE IN ORDER TO BETTER COORDINATE SERVICES, ALLOCATE RESOURCES AND PROVIDE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR MEETING YOUR STATED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.

WE HAVE IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR SUPPORTIVE AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING THAT COULD BE MET QUICKLY BY PARTNERING WITH EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE HOMELESS COALITION TO PROVIDE ZONING VARIANCES TO MEET HOUSING NEEDS.

IN THE UPCOMING WORKSHOPS REGARDING FUNDING FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, I WOULD EXPECT TO HEAR FROM LOCAL LEADERS OF THE GROUP TO CONSIDER THEIR IMMEDIATE NEEDS AND PLANS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PROPERTY TAXES YOUR COLLECTING IS ALLOCATED AS A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET TO ADDRESS SUPPORTIVE TRANSITIONAL AND VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING AND JOB OPPORTUNITY NEEDS.

I WANT YOU TO PRESERVE WHAT MAKES OUR COUNTY UNIQUE AND DESIRABLE AND LOOK TO AS OUR LEADERS TO ADDRESS THE SPRAWL THAT CONTINUES TO OCCUR WITHOUT LIVING UP TO YOUR STATED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. A1A DIVERSE EQUITABLE AND THRIVING COMMUNITY THAT USES OUR VAST RESOURCES TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS OF ALL CITIZENS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. YES MA'AM.

>> MAUREEN LONG 1821 CASTEEL STREET.

MENENDEZ PARK. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON MAINTAINING OUR AGRICULTURAL LAND IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO RETAIN OR PRESERVE AGRICULTURAL LANDS. KEEPING FOOD SOURCES NEARBY IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. IN THE LAST TWO YEARS DURING THE PANDEMIC. HOW VERY FORTUNATE WE HAVE BEEN TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY FRESH FRUIT, VEGETABLES, MEAT OR CHEESE ALL THANKS TO OUR LOCAL FARMERS.

WHILE RESIDENTS AND OTHER CITIES HAVE EXPERIENCED VULNERABILITIES DUE TO SUPPLY CHAINS.

RETAINING AGRICULTURAL LANDS MEANS MAINTAINING A DIVERSE ECONOMIC PORTFOLIO FOR THE COUNTY.

IF ALL OF OUR LAND IS DEVELOPED, AND ECONOMIC DEPRESSION COULD BE CATASTROPHIC TO OUR COUNTY.

ACCORDING TO A 2020 STUDY IN UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA FEUD AND RESOURCES ECONOMICS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ALONE ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS FROM CROP AND LIVESTOCK, FORESTRY AND FISHERIES SECTORS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IN 2018 WAS 1314 JOBS.

$118 MILLION IN OUTPUT. FLORIDA ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS OF ALL AGRICULTURE RELATED AND FOOD INDUSTRIES WAS 30,511 JOBS. 3.45 BILLION IN OUTPUT.

OUR LOCAL FARMS PROVIDE A HOST OF ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL CULTURAL BENEFITS BUT THEY ARE THREATENED.

IN RECENT DECADES RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS REDUCED OUR AGRICULTURAL LAND. OUR FARMERS -- SORRY.

OUR FARMERS AND FAMILIES WORK HARD FOR US.

NOW IT IS TIME FOR US TO SUPPORT THEM BY ASKING THE STATE TO FULLY FUND THEIR RURAL IN FAMILY LANDS PROGRAM ESTATE PRESERVATION PROGRAM DESIGNED TO PROTECT IMPORTANT AGRICULTURAL LANDS THROUGH THE ACQUISITION OF PERMANENT AGRICULTURAL LAND CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

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OUR COUNTY SHOULD COUNTER REQUEST TO REZONE LANDS TO REITS FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT. HOW CAN THIS BE DONE? BY USING KEY STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSERVING AGRICULTURAL LAND AVOID DEVELOPMENT OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY AGRICULTURAL LAND, MINIMIZE AGRICULTURAL LAND LOSS WITH MORE EFFICIENT URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

ENSURE STABILITY AT THE URBAN EDGE WORLD DEVELOPMENT, MITIGATE LOSS OF AGRICULTURAL LAND LOSS FOR CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND OCCURRED FAVORABLE AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS CLIMATE WHICH WE DO HERE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND APPRECIATE TODAY'S WORKSHOP.

HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE MORE IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING FOLKS.

MINIMUS -- ADDRESS 7310 US ONE S. I COME TO YOU TODAY AS PROBABLY TWO CURSE WORDS IN THE CROWD AND THAT IS A HOMEBUILDER AND DEVELOPER. IT DOESN'T MEAN I DO NOT LOVE OUR COMMUNITY. AS 1/5 GENERATION FLIRTING I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF OUR STATE AND THE PLACE I LIVE AND RAISE MY BOYS. I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF SUBJECTS. BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I'VE NEVER SEEN THE AUDITORIUM THIS PACK. THERE WAS CARS DRIVING ON TRYING TO FIND PARKING SPOTS. IT'S EXHIBIT A OF HOW MUCH EVERYONE HERE LOVES OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO ENJOY THE SAME THING.

IT IS EASY TO ASK THE CROWD WHO WANTS TO STOP DEVELOPMENT AND PUT A PAUSE ON IT BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK HOW MANY MOVED HERE AFTER 2010 AND LIVE IN A MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY? HOW MANY WERE BORN IN THE COUNTY OR STATE AND YOU DON'T SEE MANY HANDS GOING UP SO WE HAVE 50 STARS ON THE FLAGONS BECAUSE WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE HERE WE NEED TO AFFORD THEM THE OPPORTUNITY OF DOING SO.S FAR AS BEING OVERDEVELOPED.

IF YOU LOOK IN THE AERIAL ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WE ARE NOT OVERDEVELOPED. WE'VE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT IN CERTAIN AREAS BUT WE ARE UNDEVELOPED OF THE COUNTY.

I THINK THE FRUSTRATION COMES FROM THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION WE FELT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. COUNTY GROWTH OR POPULATION ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS HAS BEEN PRETTY EXPLOSIVE.

BUT WE NEED TO FIX INFRASTRUCTURE.

OUR COUNTY IS BEEN KICKED IN THE TEETH SOME DURING THIS PRESENTATION TODAY. BUT IS NOT THEIR FAULT, THE HANDS ARE TIED IN A LOT OF WAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE REVENUE TO FIX THE ISSUES. SALES TAX INCREASE IN MY OPINION IS A GREAT WAY TO INCREASE THAT WE CAN -- WE HAVE 40 PERCENT OF SALES TAX BEING PAID BY TOURISTS.

WE NEED TO TAX THE PEOPLE COMING AND USING OUR RESOURCES.

THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME IMPROVED ROADS FIRE AND POLICE STATIONS, BOAT RAMPS, PARKS ALL THE HOT BUTTONS WE TALKED ABOUT.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT TO TALK BUT THE REASON I CAME UP HERE WAS BECAUSE I WANTED TO SHOW EVERYONE THINGS WERE OVERBUILT AND HAVE WAY TOO MANY HOMES.

THIS IS DATA PULLED FROM MLS THIS MORNING.

AND IT ISN'T REALLY EASY TO SEE.

THIS SHOWS A REAL ISSUE IN TODAY'S MARKET AND WHY IT'S SO HOT. THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN ALL SUMMERS, THE SUPPLY OF INVENTORY CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.

THIS IS ONLY FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND TOWNHOMES.

WE HAVE ONE POINT ONE MONTH SUPPLY OF INVENTORY.

THAT MEANS THEORETICALLY, IF NOT ANOTHER PROPERTY GETS LISTED IN 1.1 MONTHS, EVERYTHING IS SOLD OUT.

THE EQUILIBRIUM RATE IS SIX MONTHS.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOMES.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ENOUGH HOMES NATIONALLY TO PANDEMIC BUT LOCALLY, JUST THE FOUR COUNTY AREA NUMBERS SHOW WE ARE ROUGHLY 40,000 HOMES SHORT OF WHERE WE SHOULD BE.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES MA'AM?

>> GOOD MORNING, SARAH -- REGIONAL POLICY DIRECTOR FOR THE FLORIDA WILDLIFE FEDERATION.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY TO OPEN UP THE FORM TO HAVE OPEN AND PRODUCTIVE DIALOGUE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE KNOW THE TIME FOR LAND PROTECTION AND CONSERVATION PLANNING IS NOW.

AS FLORIDA GROWS BY NEARLY A THOUSAND NEWCOMERS EACH DAY, WE PROJECTED TO EXCEED 30 MILLION RESIDENTS BY 2060.

WITH THIS COMES A GREAT DEMAND FOR WATER AND DEVELOPMENT OF RURAL AND NATIONAL LANDS FOR URBAN USE.

AS A STAYS THIRD FASTEST GROWING COUNTY THIS IS ALL TOO FAMILIAR FOR US. 2014, 75 PERCENT OF FLORIDA VOTERS PASSED THE FLORIDA WATER AND LAND CONSERVATION INITIATIVE.E'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT FLORIDA FOREVER THIS WAS THE INITIATIVE TO FUND THAT. HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, 72 PERCENT VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT. CLEARLY HERE'S ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WE VALUE CONSERVATION. CONSERVATION PLANNING IS A SENSIBLE DELIBERATE PROTECTION OF LANDS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO

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ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF CONSERVATION ALONE MADE CONSCIENTIOUS LAND -- LONG-TERM OPEN SPACE CONSERVATION PLANNING CAN HELP US PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT.

AND IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND PRESERVE CRITICAL ELEMENTS OF THE LOCAL HERITAGE, ECONOMY AND CULTURE.

LIKE DEVELOPMENT CONSERVATION CAN EITHER BE PLANNED OR HAPHAZARD. IF WE DO NOT HAVE MEANINGFUL STANDARDS BUILT INTO A COMPASS OF PLANNED POLICIES AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WE CAN END UP WITH FRAGMENTING OUR CONSERVATION LANDS. SMALL FRAGMENTS OF CONSERVED LAND HAVE LESS ECOLOGICAL VALUE AS WELL.

CORE DOORS ARE LESS ACCESSIBLE TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND HAVE REDUCED VALUE IN DIRECT AND GROWTH TO AREAS THAN LARGER PARCELS CONNECTED BY CORE DOORS.

THE FEDERATION LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOARD, STAFF AND LAND ACQUISITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SUPPORT AND PROTECT EXISTING LAND CONSERVATION PROJECTS. SUCH AS THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR AND NORTHEAST FLORIDA BLUE -- FROM HAPHAZARD GROWTH.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL CRITICAL AREAS FOR CONSERVATION SUCH AS LARGE AREAS OF QUALITY OF HABITAT, CORE DOORS, BUFFERS AND WETLANDS FOR CONSERVATION PLANNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. CHRIS GOOD MORNING I AM TOM -- 373 CHASE WOULD DRIVE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.'VE LIVED HERE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. I MOVED DOWN HERE TO SERVING PROBABLY FOR 26 YEARS AS A POLICE OFFICER IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, VIRGINIA. DURING MY TIME THERE I SAW FAIRFAX COUNTY GROW FROM 597,000 PEOPLE TO 1.1 MILLION, 81 PERCENT GROWTH RATE. DURING A LOT OF TIME ALL OF THE PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY. THE POPULATION IN MY TIME -- I'VE SEEN AND LIVED WHAT THE FUTURE ST. JOHNS COUNTY COULD BE IF IT IS NOT MANAGED PROPERLY.

IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA WE WERE TOLD GROWTH AUTOMATICALLY RESULTED IN IMPROVEMENT. AND MORE GROWTH WOULD NATURALLY RESULT IN MORE IMPROVEMENT. THEY'VE LEARNED THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE FOCUSING OF RESOURCES ON EXPANSION INHIBITED THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.ND THAT STARTED TO CAUSE DECAY. IN LITTLE WAYS PEOPLE MAY NOT ALWAYS THINK ABOUT. FOR EXAMPLE CODE ENFORCEMENT IN BUILDING INSPECTORS BECAME STRESSED BECAUSE THEIR JOBS, THEY WERE NOT ENOUGH OF THEM TO KEEP UP.

THE BUILDING AND CODE AND BUILDING INSPECTORS WERE FOCUSING SO MUCH ON NEW BILLS THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND MONITOR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS RESULTED IN DECAY AND DISREPAIR OF OLDER BUILDINGS WHICH CREATED BLIGHT ZONES WITHIN FAIRFAX COUNTY WITH A PREVIOUSLY NOT EXISTED. FAIRFAX COUNTY FOR LONG-TERM IS CONSIDERED THE WEALTHIEST COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE SAW THE SCHOOLS GO TO THE SAME THINGS.

BUILDING NEW SCHOOLS WAS NECESSARY, BUT RESULTED IN A DIFFICULT MAINTAINING NOT ONLY THE PHYSICAL PLANT MATERIALS NEEDED FOR THE CLASSROOMS AND MAINTAINING STUDENT-TEACHER RATIOS ALLOWED FOR PROPER EDUCATION.

I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC DOWN HERE.

IN FAIRFAX COUNTY THE FORMULA FOR YOUR DRIVE WAS TAKE CALENDAR GPS TELLS YOU IT SHOULD BE, DOUBLE THAT AND ADD 15 MINUTES.UCH TRAFFIC MUST BE ADDRESSED AS A MAJOR ISSUE.

NOT ONLY THE BUILDING OF ROADS BUT LITTLE THINGS LIKE LOOKING AT HOW TRAFFIC CYCLES GO. TRAFFIC SIGNALS DOWN HERE OFTEN TIMES ALMOST APPEAR TO BE IMPEDING FLOOR TRAFFIC RATHER THAN TO EXPEDITE IT. PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AREA. NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 2.4 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICES FOR EVERY 1000 RESIDENTS.

IN THE 2020 REPORT FOR ST. JOHN'S I SEE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALSO 1.25 PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

AS YOU INCREASE POPULATION, CALLS FOR SERVICE WILL INCREASE. OFFICER SAFETY WILL BE COMPROMISED AS ARE NOT ENOUGH TO RESPOND TO CALLS AND QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUES WILL FALL BY THE WAYSIDE IS HIGHER PRIORITY CALLS ARE ADDRESSED. I URGE YOU, FEEL FREE TO GROW BUT DO IT SMART AND DO SO SAFELY.

>> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TOO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MICHELLE -- I DO THANK YOU FOR THE WORKSHOP AND I REALLY HOPE THERE ARE MANY MORE TO COME. LAST YEAR WAS A PRETTY BIG EYE-OPENING FOR ME AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT.

I MOVED AWAY FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS AND CAME BACK 11 YEARS AGO.

I SAW THE MASSIVE GROWTH BUT DID NOT REALIZE WHAT NEEDED TO

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MY FIRST INITIAL REACTION WAS, MY GOSH, WE ELECT YOU AND MANY OTHERS TO HELP REPRESENT US. BECAUSE I CAN'T BE HERE ALL THE TIME. I WORK IN JACKSONVILLE, I'M FORTUNATE TO WORK FOR A COMPANY RIGHT NOW THAT ALLOWS ME TO HAVE SOME PAID TIME OFF BUT THERE MANY PEOPLE NOT IN THAT SITUATION. AGAIN, GROWING UP HERE, OUR FAMILY WAS IN NEED OF SERVICES, WE HAD VERY LARGE FAMILY.

WE WERE VERY BLUE-COLLAR. A LOT OF US GREW UP TO OPEN BUSINESSES HERE 30, 40 YEARS. I ASKED, DO NOT FORGET THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE AND BUILT THIS COMMUNITY AND HAVE COME BACK. I WENT TO UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, OPEN SEVERAL BUSINESSES WITH MY HUSBAND AND WE WANTED TO COME BACK BECAUSE THE BEAUTY BUT IT IS GETTING TO A POINT WHERE IT'S MAKING PEOPLE LIKE US LOOK FOR OTHER AREAS AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

SO IF WE CAN'T BE HERE, PLEASE REPRESENT US, LISTEN TO EVERYTHING WE'VE SAID AND KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE. THE NEXT MEETING HAVE DOES NOT MAKE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE SAID HERE, TAKE IT FORWARD.

AND UP TO THE STATE LEVEL. ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS INFRASTRUCTURE. I KNOW YOU CANNOT STOP DEVELOPMENT, THERE REALLY HAS TO BE A BALANCE AND JUST REALLY TAKING THE CITIZENS HERE INTO CONSIDERATION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE, ANOTHER COMING AND THAT'S FINE.

BUT JUST DON'T RUN OUT THE RESIDENCE.

MICHAEL AROUND TOWN AND I WENT TO SAINT AUGUSTINE HI, WE RUN INTO PEOPLE WE KNOW AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS. A LOT OF WHAT I'M HEARING IS, YOU'RE GOING TO A COMMISSIONER MEETING? GOOD LUCK! YOU KNOW, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. AND SO, WE ARE VERY DIVIDED AS A COUNTRY NOW AND PEOPLE ARE TUNING PEOPLE OUT.

PARTICULARLY SOME POLITICIANS. DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN HERE, WE DON'T WANT TO TUNE YOU OUT. DON'T TUNE US OUT.HANK YOU.

>> HI, I AM JAZZ, SARAH JAZZ. 'VE GOT THIS UP BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS COMMUNITY.

>> I'M SORRY NAME AND ADDRESS. >> 330 ABBY AVENUE COULD WRITE UP OF 16 WHICH BY THE WAY IS ALSO FOR SALE.

EVERY DOWN 16 LEADING INTO THE CITY IS FOR SALE.

HOPE YOU HAVE A VISION FOR THAT.

AND ARE GOING TO KEEP IT REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT LEADS INTO OUR HISTORIC CITY. BUT I AM HERE TO SAY AS A CONCERNED RESIDENT, IT IS GREAT THAT YOU ALL ARE HOLDING A WORKSHOP. AND PROVIDING A MEANS FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE THEIR VIEWS AT NINE AM I WEEKDAY BUT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT DO NOT KNOW WHO TO CALL, DO NOT KNOW THE MEETING IS HAPPENED EVEN THOUGH CHANNEL 4 NEWS PUT IT OUT THERE AND PEOPLE ARE POSTING ON FACEBOOK AND ON NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR BUT WHEN YOU READ THE COMMENTS ON THESE PLACES THERE LIKE WELL WHO DO WE, I CAN'T BE THERE, WHO CAN I REACH OUT TO? AND HOW DO I FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING? SO I'M SHARING A LINK TO THIS ONLINE BEING ABLE TO VIEW IT ONLINE AND LOOK AT IT IN THE ARCHIVES.

BUT IF ON HERE, LOOK RIGHT HERE AND YOU DO NOT SEE ANY WAY TO PARTICIPATE. OKAY, PROVIDE A WAY TO WRITE TO THE COMMISSIONERS, PROVIDE A LINK TO THIS TV.

AND THAT WAY EVERYONE WILL AT LEAST BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME WAY, THEN TAKING A DAY OFF OF WORK.

AND MAKING IT EASIER FOR THERE TO BE COLLABORATION FOR DEVELOPMENT, FOR OVERDEVELOPMENT AND HELP THE RESIDENTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU ALL.

THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS MEETING.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MATT -- SAINT AUGUSTINE SOUTH. ALSO CIVIL ENGINEER THE COUNTY I GREW UP HERE, I THINK THAT WE CAN ALL ACKNOWLEDGE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER HOW WE'VE IMPACTED GROWTH.

WHETHER WE WERE BORN AND RAISED HERE WE MOVED HERE AND JUST MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, JUST WHAT YOU KNOW YOU DO HAVE A TALENTED STAFF.

I BELIEVE THAT THEY DEAFLY HELP KEEP THE TRAIN ON THE TRACKS FOR EVEYBODY IN THE ROOM. -- KNOWS THE TRAVEL OF NOTICE OF WORK WITH HIM SINCE EARLY 2000 AND BELIEVE YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BEST HERE. I THINK IT IS TIME TO LEVERAGE THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC MUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE MANY STAKEHOLDERS AND THERE IS DOT, NORTH FLORIDA --

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NO MATTER WHAT WHOEVER'S BUYING THE HOMES ARE PAYING THE BILL.

THE DEVELOPERS -- WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY SINCE 2008.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE MANY PEOPLE IN HERE TO REMEMBER 2008 THE COUNTY HAD A $500 MILLION BUDGET.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB KEEPING THE TRAIN ON THE TRACKS.

I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE SOUTH BUT WE DO HAVE A SIDEWALK THERE TO IS INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY. PEOPLE WALK TO THEIR AND WALKING BABIES AND DOGS IN THE ROAD.

THE GOVERNORS SAY WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS 850 PEOPLE A DAY, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THAT. HIGH INCOME TAX, ESTATE TAX, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THAT. TO ME IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A REVAMP TO CONTROL AESTHETICS DENSITY AND DEFINITIONS AS OPPOSED TO CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT REVAMP.

ALL COST INCREASES WILL JUST PUSH DEVELOPER TO SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND THEY ALSO USE THE ROADS TO ASSESS AMENITIES.

THE OCEAN, INTERCOASTAL, WHATEVER ELSE WE HAVE HERE -- WHO PAID FOR THE ROADS AND SILVERLEAF? WHO PAID FOR THEM? ULTIMATELY THE END-USER, THE CDD, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO LOOK A MASTER PLAN, PUT TOGETHER PLAN, FIGURE HOW MUCH IT COSTS, FIGURE A CREATIVE WAY TO INCREASE REVENUE TO GET THAT ACHIEVED. EVERYBODY WANTS INCREASE IN QUALITY OF LIFE, RECREATIONAL AMENITIES, PARKS, CONSERVATION.

IT ALL COSTS MONEY. MAYBE LOOK AT THE MILLAGE RATE, MAYBE LOOK AT GAS, INCREASE I WILL USE THE WORD TAX BUT I JUST USED IT. SO.

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS -- 3845 COUNTY ROAD 210.

THIS RIGHT HERE IS A PICTURE OF MY DRIVEWAY AND THE MAIN ROAD.

I WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU BE HERE TODAY AND TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT THE GROWING POPULATION AND THE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY SINCE 2001 REMOVED. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS SAFETY CONCERNS NOT HAVING A PROPER PINFRASTRUCTURE.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, COUNTY ROAD 210 POTENTIAL DEVASTATING IMPACT ALMOST HAD A MY FAMILY THIS PAST FRIDAY.HE BUS FOR MY CHILDREN, THE BEST OF MY CHILDREN IS OUR DRIVEWAY.

WE SIT EVERY MORNING AND WAIT FOR THE BUS, WAIT FOR THEM TO OPEN THE STOP SIGN AND ENDORSED OPEN BEFORE MY CHILDREN START TO WALK UP. ROUGHLY 15 FEET FROM WHERE PARK THE ENTRANCE TO MY PROPERTY. WHERE THE KIDS GET OFF TO GET ONTO THE BUS. ON FRIDAY JANUARY 21, 2022, THE BUS CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP, MY CHILDREN STARTED TO APPROACH AND A PICKUP TRUCK PULLING 1/5 WHEEL STYLE UTILITY TRAILER WITH TWO TRACTORS FAILED TO SLOW DOWN, CAUSING HIM TO SWERVE AND GO OFF THE ROAD INTO MY DITCH OF MY DRIVEWAY WHERE MY CHILDREN ARE WALKING TO GET ONTO THE BUS.

THE DRIVER MISSED MY CHILDREN BY A FEW FEET.

ON TOP OF THAT, THE BUS DRIVER HAD NOT REALIZED THE TRUCK WAS NOT SLOWING DOWN AND THAT THE REAL LAST-MINUTE MOVED FOR THE BUS WOULD HAVE BEEN REAR-ENDED CAUSING WAY MORE HARM.

THIS OCCURRED AT 7:35 AM IN THE MORNING AND TIED UP THE ROAD UNTIL ABOUT 9:30 AM. TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP PAST ST.

JOHN'S GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB. WHAT WAS LAST TIME IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE TO COUNTY ROAD 210 W.? WEST OF CIMARRON AND SOUTHHAMPTON.

WHERE GOOD PORTION OF THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN ADDED AND ARE EXPANDED. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LESS MAJOR IMPROVEMENT TO THE PORTION OF THE ROAD OTHER THAN THE INTERSECTION OF LONGLEAF PINE AND GREENBRIER WAS WHEN GREENBRIER WAS PAID APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS AGO GIVE OR TAKE. AS A MOTHER OF A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, I REMEMBER RIDING TO SCHOOL ON GREENBRIER WHEN IT WAS A DIRT ROAD. TRAFFIC LIGHT AT SHEARWATER WAS ALSO ADDED BUT IT HAS REALLY DONE NOTHING IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC ON THE MAIN ROAD. I ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE DEADLY CORNER JUST WEST OF THE SECOND ENTRANCE OF SOUTHHAMPTON. 2018 I WAS ALMOST SIDESWIPED BY VEHICLE WHO ENDED UP HITTING SOMEBODY ELSE, DEPLOY THE AIRBAGS AND RESULTED IN CAR GOING OFF INTO THE DITCH.

BOTH CARS IN EITHER DIRECTION. LAST YEAR THERE WAS A FOUR CAR CRASH RIGHT OUTSIDE MY HOUSE AT THE CORNER.

DUE TO TRAFFIC BEING BACKED UP SO FAR, THE TRUCK THAT HIT THE THIRD CAR AND CREATED A CHAIN EFFECT DID NOT SEE THE TRAFFIC

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ENTRANCE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HI THERE. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. QUESTION ONE MINIMUS CAROL -- I AM A CONCERNED CITIZEN OF HASTINGS, BORN AND RAISED THERE. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF CARE, COMMUNITY ADVOCATES FOR RACIAL EQUITY.

AND A MEMBER OF THE BAPTIST CHURCH.

MOST OF ALL, A PERSON TH AND I ELY BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS EQUITY EVERYONE. WE WERE ENCOURAGED WHEN WORTH A COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR YOU HAVE SOME GREAT PLANS. FOR WHAT IS NEEDED FOR OUR AMAZING COUNTY. WAYS TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, GROW RESPONSIBLY, SUSTAINABLY.

ESPECIALLY PROVIDING AFFORDABLE WORKHOUSE HOUSING FOR CITIZENS.

AND ONE OF MY MEMBERS WROTE THIS AND SHE WAS UNABLE TO COME BECAUSE OF ILLNESS. SO THIS PART IS DIRECTLY FROM HER. WHAT CONCERNS IS THAT THERE SEEMS THAT THERE IS, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS DISTRACTING FROM FOLLOWING WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS IT READ, THE PLANTS OF THE COUNTY SHALL, NOW AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, IT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR A WISH LIST. IT MEANS THAT IT IS A COUNTIES WORKING ORDERS, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT SHALL MEANS? FRANCIS, WHEN A ONE -- NO TIME SHALL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING -- IT SPELLS OUT THAT WHILE WE WANT DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, 50 PERCENT WITHIN A 20 MINUTE DRIVE, IT STATES CLEARLY THAT IN NO CASE SHALL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THE NEWTOWN BE LESS THAN 20 PERCENT.

OF THE INTENDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

ANOTHER SECTION A 3.11 STATES A ST. JOHNS COUNTY SHALL EVALUATE AND IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO REMEDIATE EXISTING -- TO THE AREAS. THAT INADEQUATELY ADDRESSES THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS TO PROVIDE FOR THE GRADUAL TRANSFORMATION OF THESE AREAS. AND TO SUSTAINABLE EFFICIENT VIABLE ATTRACTIVE AND SELF-CONTAINED PATTERNS.HE CHALLENGE OF GROWING SUSTAINABLY, ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, SEEMS TO BEG FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PERSON AND WE UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A POSITION THAT MAY BE FILLED BUT WE DO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT IT SHOULD BE A MATTER OF CONCERN. AND ONE MORE THING, WE WERE PLEASED TO PROPOSE TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY -- A ST. JOHNS COUNTY HOUSING COMPACT. AND THAT IF YOU WOULD ADOPT THAT OR SOMETHING SIMILAR WOULD HELP THE COUNTY JUST THE DIFFICULT CHALLENGES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL AS SUPPORTIVE AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NICOLE CROSBY 1169 -- ALSO CHAIR THE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PLANNING THE WORSHIP BUT ON HOW YOU GUYS ARE SITTING THROUGH ALL OF THIS BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING IT. I POSTED A REMINDER OF FACEBOOK FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND. INCLUDED A BRIEF VIDEO OF 20 ACRES OF FOREST IN PALM VALLEY BEING DECIMATED FOR DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS SHARED SO RAPIDLY IN SOCIAL MEDIA THAT OVER 7000 PEOPLE SAW IT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. AND IT IS FAR MORE PEOPLE THAN ANY SINGLE POST REACHED AT THE HEIGHT OF THE OUTPOST CONTROVERSY. SO PLEASE DON'T UNDERESTIMATE HOW URGENTLY YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO SEE YOU SLOW DOWN OUR COUNTIES GROWTH. WE SEE RURAL AND AGRICULTURAL LAND BEING CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AT AN ALARMING RATE. LOOKING AT VOTES SINCE MID AUGUST THE COMMISSIONERS APPROVED LOOKS LIKE IT'S APPROVED EVERY PLAN MEMBER REQUESTED BY DEVELOPERS.

EIGHT ACRES, THREE ACRES, 46 ACRES, 19 ACRES, 50 ACRES, 19 ACRES, 513 ACRES, 10 ACRES, SIX ACRES AND 2394 ACRES.

MANY ARE RELIEVED THAT THE STATE REJECTED THE LAST APPROVAL AND THERE WILL BE NO HEARING FOR SILVERLEAF.

JUST BECAUSE WE CANNOT BE IN THIS ROOM EVERY TIME YOU VOTE

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WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU TO REPRESENT OUR PRIORITIES.

WE ARE THRILLED YOU PASSED THE LAND ACQUISITION MANAGEMENT PROGRAM BUT PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER THIS A SUBSTITUTE FOR UPHOLDING OTHER COMPANY HAS A PLAN MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE EXCEPTION AND NOT THE RULE. IN 2019 COUNTY STAFF WAS VERY CLOSE TO RECOMMENDING NEW TREE ORDINANCE.

THE COUNTY ALREADY INSTITUTED FINES AND MADE A GOOD START ON IT. AN ACCOUNTING ADMINISTRATOR WAS REPLACED AND WERE TOLD THE TREE ORDINANCE WAS ON HOLD.

IT'S BEEN A WHOLE TWO YEARS. PLEASE TAKE IT OFF HOLD.

I BELIEVE IT WAS PUT ON HOLD EVEN IN 2016 BECAUSE OF HURRICANES. SO THE POOR TREE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN STRUGGLING FOR LIKE SIX YEARS NOW TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY. JAN BREWER OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION MANAGER, CREATED AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE CODE, CREATED A DRAFT, IS SOMETHING YOU WILL NEED TO LOOK AT AND WITH THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT INTO THAT, HER EXPERTISE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT NOW. AS AN EXAMPLE THE LAND COOKS IS A SIX INCHES OF FILLMORE IS REQUIRED ALL TREES ARE CONSIDERED DEAD BECAUSE OF THE FILL.

IT'S ALMOST FUNNY BUT IT'S NOT. WHAT HAPPENS IS ALL DEVELOPERS SAY THAT THEY NEED TO FEEL AND GRADE 6 INCHES SO THEY CAN DO THAT. -- I THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS WHAT I WANT TO TOUCH ON. THANK YOU AGAIN.

CHRISTMAS CROSBY A QUICK POINT. WITHIN OF ALL THE ACRES, HOW MANY ACRES OF CONSERVATION? I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE PROJECT

THERE WAS CONSERVATION. >> I APOLOGIZE IF I DID NOT

PULL OUT THE CONSERVATION LAND. >> BUT THERE WAS CONSERVATION.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I PULLED IT OUT ON SOME EVIDENTLY NOT AT ALL.

SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE.

>> THANK YOU.ES MA'AM? >> CAROL ANDERSON, 1602 -- EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD TODAY IS IMPORTANT.

EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD TODAY IS ALSO CONFLICTING.

I ENCOURAGED ST. JOHNS COUNTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT TO BECOME PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE. I ALSO ENCOURAGE THIS DEPARTMENT TO WORK HOLISTICALLY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS SO A COMMON VISION FOR THE COUNTY CAN EMERGE.

LET ME EXPLAIN. AS A RESIDENT IT APPEARS SMITH COUNTY IS IN PERPETUAL REACTIVE MODE.

A DEVELOPER PRESENTS A PLAN TO THE COUNTY THAT'S ALREADY HAD A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL INTEREST AND THEN EACH AREA OF THE COUNTY RESPONSIBILITIES LOOKS AT THE PLAN IN A SILO.

MAKES A COMMENT, AND THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE PLAN THE COUNTY REACTS. WHETHER THAT BE THE CITIZENS FORMING IN OPPOSITION AS WE DID WITH THE VILLANO BEACH HOTEL, OR BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS PLAN HAS A SERIOUS CONFLICT WITH THE COMP PLAN. EVENTUALLY, THE DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD AND WHOOPS, WE NEED A NEW SCHOOL! THIS IS REACTIVE, THIS IS REACTING IN SILOS.

WHETHER THOSE ARE RESIDENTS, GROWTH MANAGEMENT OR OTHER AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THE END RESULT IS TYPICALLY A COUPLE IS OR SERVES ABSOLUTELY NO ONE. AS COMMISSIONER BLOCKER SAID AT THE VILLANO HOTEL APPEAL HEARING, AT THE COUNTY COMP PLAN IS SO COMPLICATED THAT IT TAKES AN ATTORNEY OR ARCHITECT INTERPRETED, PERHAPS IT NEEDS REVISION.

THE 2025 COMP PLAN IS A GOOD DOCUMENT BUT DOES NOT CAPTURE THE SPIRIT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SO WE KEEP AMENDING IT.

ONLY A CLEARLY ARTICULATED VISION WILL PROVIDE THE MEANS FOR THE COUNTY TO BE PROACTIVE WHERE WILL THE COUNTY GROW? HOW WILL THE COUNTY GROW? WHAT CONSIDERATIONS FOR EACH OF THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE IMPORTANT? AND HOW ARE WE TREATING THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND THAT WE ARE SO BLESSED TO SHARE? THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON THAT WILL OVERLAP.

THERE IS A MAJOR COUNTY BRANDING INITIATIVE UNDERWAY.

ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE, THIS WILL HELP ST. JOHNS COUNTY STAND OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE. PARTICULARLY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WE GROW TOWARD OUR PREFERRED FUTURE.

OUR PREFERRED FUTURE. THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE VISION. IT ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO BE PROACTIVE BUT ONLY IF IT BECOMES A RALLYING CRY FOR EACH DEPARTMENT OF THE COUNTY AND THOSE DEPARTMENTS WORK TOGETHER WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO CREATE THE VISION.

I'VE HEARD THE COMMISSIONERS TALK OF EXPLOSIVE GROWTH AND THE NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF IT. COMMISSIONERS, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BUT MOVING FORWARD AT THE SPEED OF BUREAUCRACY IS TOO SLOW. THE BUILDING VISION IS ONLY A START AND END BUT ENVISIONS EVERYTHING THE COUNTY DOES.

EVERY DEPARTMENT AND POLICY AND COMMUNICATING THOSE BACK DROP ACROSS EVERY DECISION THE COUNTY MAKES.

IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET IN FRONT OF THE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH.

WE HAVE A TREASURER IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IT'S OUR RESPONSIBLY TO HONOR WHAT WE HAVE.

OUR LAND, HISTORY, CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES.

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>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO MY NAME IS BARBARA -- 104 SAW VILLE PALM LANE, LAS PALMAS.

RIGHT OFF OF THE PALM VALLEY ROAD.E ARE LOADING RIGHT NOW, THROUGH MAJOR DEVELOPMENT. IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WAS WETLANDS AND IT WAS A, A VARIANCE WAS ALLOWED TO BUILD 22 HOMES IN THE VERY SMALL LOT. THEY TOOK OUT EVERY SINGLE TREE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE BEEN FILLING THE LAND WITH DIRT FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS. THIS IS A NEIGHBORS BACKYARD, NO BARRIERS. AT 7 O'CLOCK THE TRACTORS, WE HAD THE DIRT BEING PULLED, IS JUST HORRIBLE TO LIVE THROUGH.

ALL OF OUR DITCHES ARE OVERRUN AND FILLED WITH GREEN MOCK WHICH IS VERY SMELLY. MY COMPLAINT S THAT WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED OF THIS CONSTRUCTION WHEN IT STARTED.

IT STARTED ON SUNDAY, JULY 4. THEY TOOK DOWN BIG PINE TREES BY NOT EVEN BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC, JUST CUTTING DOWN FROM THE BOTTOM AND LETTING THEM FALL.

WE HAVE HORRIBLE BUSY INTERSECTIONS NOW.

WE HAD A COYOTE IN A ROW THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE THEY ARE TEARING DOWN ALL THE LANDS AND THERE IS NOWHERE FOR THE ANIMALS TO GO. WE ARE JUST TIRED OF THE CONTINUED VARIANCES THAT ALLOW MORE HOMES TO BE PUT IN THESE LOTS. THAT SHOULD ONLY HAVE MAYBE 10 HOMES. THEY ARE PUTTING 22 HOMES, IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR. AND NOW OUR NEIGHBOR HAS ANOTHER LOT BEHIND US SLATED FOR DEVELOPMENT ON TOP OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN FRONT OF US. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME NOTIFICATION WHEN THEY CLEARED THESE LANDS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE STOP OF VARIANCES FOR DENSITY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND I THINK MY NEIGHBORS FEEL THE SAME WAY.

IT IS JUST HORRIBLE WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. WOULD YOU PLEASE TURN THOSE INTO STAFF FOR THE RECORD? THANK YOU.

>> HELLO MY NAME IS DORIS TAYLOR.

208 -- I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE SOUTH WHICH IS WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD. WE SUFFER AS MUCH AS ANYONE FROM THE HORRIBLE TRAFFIC WHICH IS CAUSED BY ALL OF THIS OVER DEVELOPMENT. I THINK EVERYONE IN THE ROOM KNOWS THAT WE HAVE A SERIOUS TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

SO I URGE YOU TO RESOLVE THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS.SPECIALLY THE TRAFFIC, BEFORE ENABLING ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. I ALSO REQUEST THAT EACH OF YOU AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, REFUSED FUTURE CAMPAIGN FUNDS FROM DEVELOPERS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MS. TAYLOR. [APPLAUSE]

>> AND KIM -- 53 BENTLEY COURT IN BANNON LAKES, SAN AUGUSTINE.

I WAS HEARING APRIL LAST YEAR REGARDING THE SAFETY ISSUE ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY BETWEEN NORTH FRANCIS ROAD AND US1. THE SAFETY ISSUE ARISES BECAUSE OF YOUR INSISTENCE ON INCREASING POPULATION DENSITY ON ROADS THAT ARE NOT EFFICIENT IN THEIR ABILITY TO HANDLE THEM. I WANT TO UPDATE TE NUMBERS I GAVE YOU THEN. SINCE MARCH 2015 WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING THEIR IS WHEN I STARTED COUNTING UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER 2021. ON THAT FOR 1/2 MILE STRETCH OF ROAD THERE HAVE BEEN 290 FOR ACCIDENTS INVOLVING 517 VEHICLES AND 127 PEOPLE INJURED.

WHEN I WAS HERE, IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM AND OFFERED SOLUTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION. I GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL. AND THEN I WAS TOLD THAT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, NOTHING IS GOING TO BE DONE BECAUSE THE FIVE-YEAR IMPLANT IS ALREADY IN PLACE AND THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN DOES NOT ABSOLVE ANYONE OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES ON THE ROAD BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE MOST URGENT ONE.

THERE IS A BLIND CURVE WHICH IS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE PROTECTIVE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE CANOPY. THERE'S TWO LANES WITHNO SHOULDERS JUST A DITCH HERE AND THERE.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL AND YOU DON'T READ THE NEEDLE JUST

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IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED -- SAID NEED TO HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY, HERE YOU GO! THE COUNTY WAS GRANTED A RIGHT-OF-WAY BY EASEMENT IT IS RECORDED IN OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK APRIL 4, 2007 PAGE 1220 ON JULY 21, 2017.

THE EASEMENT CAN MITIGATE SEVERITY OF THE CURVE AND IT CAN ALLOW FOR BUTTER SHOULDERS TO IMPROVE THE BETTER SAFETY OF THE ROAD. I IMPLORE YOU, FIX THE CURVE.

EVERY DAY THERE ACCIDENTS ON THE ROAD.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> RITA CLAIRE -- 12TH STREET, FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE NORTH COAST DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

AND IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IT HAS BECOME MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT TO SERVE THE COUNTY AS A VOLUNTEER MEMBER.

AND THE REASON FOR THIS HAS BEEN COMPLICATED BUT SOMETHING I THINK IS VERY FIXABLE, FIRST OF ALL, IS A VERY SIMPLE PRACTICAL CHANGES THAT CAN OCCUR.

THE FIRST THING PROBABLY IS THE MOST DIFFICULT, WE HAVE AN INADEQUATE ARTICLE 12 DEFINITION SECTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT SOME DEFINITIONS THEY ARE VAGUE, REDUNDANT AND TOTALLY MEANINGLESS IN SOME WAYS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BED AND BREAKFAST DEFINITION FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL DEFINITION OF EXTENDED-STAY DEFINITION WERE THE MULTIUSE MEETING WHICH I DON'T EVEN THINK IS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THEY ARE REDUNDANT AND CONFUSING AND NOT HELPFUL TO THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT FOR THE COUNTY THROUGH THE OVERLAY GUIDELINES, WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH AN INSUFFICIENT STAFF THAT HAS LACKED CONTINUITY AND MOST RECENTLY IN THE LAST YEAR OR YEAR AND 1/2, THEY HAVE BEEN WOEFULLY INADEQUATE IN TERMS OF THEIR EDUCATION ON THE OVERLAY OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND AS A VOLUNTEER, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THE WORK OF A PLANNER, THAT IS NOT MY ROLE. MY ROLE IS TO SEEK GOOD ADVICE FROM PLANNERS AND TO GET GOOD INFORMATION, WE DON'T HAVE DATA, THE MOST RECENT REVIEW THAT WE DID IN THE BOWL ON A BEACH TOWN CENTER, WE HAVE A METHODOLOGY FOR THE NUMBER OF HOTELS, NUMBER OF RESIDENCES AND THAT INFORMATION WAS NEVER PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE BOARD.

I'D LIKE TO SERIOUSLY HAVE YOU LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT THE OVERLAY, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AND IT SHOULD BE TAKEN WITH GREAT RESPECT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. YES SIR?

>> MIKE CLAIRE -- 405 -- SAINT AUGUSTINE FLORIDA.

A MEMBER OF THE NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY ALLIANCE WHICH HAS DEALT WITH COMMISSIONER DEAN AND THE BOARD BEFORE AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INITIATING THE WORKSHOP PROCESS HERE AND HEARING FROM THE CITIZENS, WE LOOK FORWARD TO AN ONGOING PROCESS WHERE WE CAN RESOLVE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY TO MAKE THIS COUNTY THE PLACE THAT IT REALLY CAN BE FOR THE FUTURE. ONE OF THE DIFFICULT ISSUES FACING YOU AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY, IS THERE IS NEW DO OVER AND DEVELOPMENT. ONCE A DEVELOPMENT IS IMPLANTED, WHETHER IT BE A HOTEL OR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OR WHATEVER, IT IS THERE FOREVER. GOD IS NOT GOING TO MAKE MORE LAND FOR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE OCEAN WILL ENCROACH ON IF ANYTHING. WE NEED TO SET GOALS.

THE GOALS HAVE TO BE GOOD HEALTHY LIVABLE COMMUNITIES AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF PROGRESSIVE HEALTHY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THOSE HAVE TO GO HAND IN HAND.

IN ORDER FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A SMART WAY.S A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NORTH BEACH COMMUNITY ALLIANCE, WE GOT INVOLVED IN LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE VILLANO BEACH TOWN CENTER.

DURING THE PROCESS WORKING WITH EFFORT, WE UNCOVERED A NUMBER OF ISSUES AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WERE NEVER ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED SUCH AS SEWAGE, WATER, TRAFFIC AND SO ON.

THERE WAS FIRE HYDRANT DEFICIENCIES IN THE NORTH BEACH

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AND GETTING REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY, PRECINCT MANAGERS CAN COME TO MEETINGS LIKE THIS AND VOICE THEIR OPINION, AND FINALLY, THE COUNTY NEEDS DATA.

TO DO THIS RIGHT, IT'S A VERY COMPLEX PROCESS THEIR ROADS, SEWAGE, WATER, ETC. AND YOU NEED SOME HELP WITH DATA MANAGEMENT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU STRONGLY TO INVEST IN DATABASES, ANALYTICAL PROCESSES WHETHER IT BE THROUGH CONSULTANTS OR OTHER.

DO THIS IN A MUCH HEALTHIER WAY PROVIDE OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT YOU CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> I DID NOT SEE WHO IS NEXT.

PLEASE HELP ME. SIR?

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> MY NAME IS GREG CLIFTON, 1190 -- ONE OF THE FORTUNATE PEOPLE THAT WENT TO ORANGE GEOMETRY AND SPENT BY $0.25 MUCH MONEY AT THE OLDEST STORE WHEN IT WAS THE OLDEST STORE. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE TOWN. SOME GOOD AND SOME BAD.

ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT AN ARTERY ROAD DOES NOT NEED TO BE A TWO LANE ROAD ANYMORE.

HOLMES BOULEVARD IS PERFECT EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GETTING 7000 CARS DOWN THAT ROAD TODAY. AND 10 TO 12 YEARS, YOU WORKED ON OUTLINE, EXTENSION OF 312. THE IDEA IS TO PUT A TWO LANE ROAD IN FROM 207 UP TO HOLMES ROAD.

THAT ONE MILE ROAD WITH TWO LANES WILL COST THE GENTLEMAN SAID 11 MILLION. I WAS A MEETING IF YOU MODULUS IT WAS $10 MILLION SO IT'S GOING UP.

HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE YOU TO DO THE EXTENSION FROM HOMES OUT TO 95? AND IF THAT ROAD ISN'T GOING TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC NOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE WHEN YOU GUYS FINALLY COME UP WITH THAT OTHER EXTENSION, BE IT FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 12 YEARS? HOW IS IT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE? THAT IS AN ARTERY 312 TO GO TO THE BEACH. THE BRIDGE ALLIANCES BACK TO THE OLD FORD ALL THE TIME FOR FOLKS WANTED TO GO TO THE BRIDGE. AND THE BEACH IS THE ONE THING WE SELL THE STONE ON. BECAUSE IT IS NOT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, BECAUSE YOUR GIVING MOBILITY TAXES TO DEVELOPERS OR CREDIT TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN. A SIDEWALK SHOULD BE SOMETHING PUT INTO ANY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE SELL A LIFESTYLE HERE. IF YOU DRIVE OFF OF 207 COMING INTO THE CITY, WHICH IS THE EXIT THAT SAYS THE NATIONS OLDEST CITY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SEE NOW? GO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME INAND STRIPPED EVERY TREE AND BUSH. NOT BECAUSE HE NEEDED TO, BUT BECAUSE THE BUILDERS MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFITS.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO AROUND A TREE.

THOSE OLD WINDBLOWN SCRUB OUTS, GO TO SHAKESPEARE.

THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE LIGHTHOUSE.

AND WE ARE ALLOWING DEVELOPERS AND THAT GENTLEMAN SOUNDED REALLY NICE, HE'S NOT MY FRIEND, HE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

Y'ALL HAVE MADE IT SO CHEAP FOR THEM TO COME IN AND DO DEVELOPMENTS. THAT YOU ARE DESTROYING THE CITY THAT I KNOW Y'ALL LOVE, I LOVE IT AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, EVERYBODY SITTING IN THIS AUDIENCE MOVED HERE BECAUSE THEY LOVE WITH THE CITY REPRESENTS.

AND WE ARE LOSING THAT. SO DEVELOPMENT IS GREAT, I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE HERE. BUT DARN IT ALL, DO SOME CONTROL DEVELOPMENT. DECIDE WHAT OUR CITYWANTS.

>> THANK YOU . [APPLAUSE]

>> YES MA'AM. >> OKEY-DOKEY.

SALLY OHARA 325 KINGS ROAD. 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. REGARDING LOCAL GOVERNMENT ROLE, PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE PRE-APPLICATION REVIEWS IS PRACTICED IN OTHER COUNTIES, IT NEEDS TO BE PRACTICED HERE.

TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPERS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN

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WE NEED A SUSTAINABLE RESILIENCY PLAN IN THIS COUNTY.

THE COACH THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT THE FLAGLER COUNTY THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES RIGHT NOW JUST IN ST. JOHN'S.

WE NEED TO INVEST IN UPGRADES FOR USER-FRIENDLY WEBSITE.

AND MAKE IT EASIER TO RECEIVE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.

NOT DAYS AND EVEN AFTER HEARINGS OCCUR.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER PLACING QR CODES ON THE SIGNS THAT ARE BLUE OR ORANGE IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTIES SO THAT THE QR CODE CAN DRIVE THE PUBLIC TO A WEBSITE IN THE COUNTY IT STRUCTURE SO THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND NOT TIE UP STAFF TIME.

IMPLEMENT A STATE-OF-THE-ART DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, NOTICE FOR ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS IS NEEDED.

NOT JUST A FEW INTIMATELY, BUT THE CRR B AND -- PROGRAM ARE NOT NOTICED MONTHLY. THEY ARE ANNUALLY NOTICED.

HUNDREDS OF PERFORMANCE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO RECEIVE A PHONE CALL OR EMAIL BACK FROM A STAFFER MORE THAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS DOWN THE ROAD. TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE ISSUES AND DEFRAY FRUSTRATIONS OF THE PUBLIC.

CONSIDER AN OPTION TO ALLOW CITIZENS TO VOTE FOR OR CONTRIBUTE TO A COUNTY FUND TO BUY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, AS THEY SET ASIDE REGARDING TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSIDER IMPLEMENT IN THE MODEL PROPERTY RIGHTS OBJECTIVES NUMBER TWO AND THREE TO ALLOW ASSESSMENT OF COMMUNITY IMPACT. ANALYZE THE NUMBER OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS, LIMIT THEM POSSIBLY, LIMIT THE VARIANCES AND USE STRAIGHT ZONING, BY DEVELOPMENT RATES AND INCREASE CONSERVATION RESERVES. INCREASE IMPACTS AND CONSIDER MOBILITY FEE. THERE SHOULD BE A TIME LIMIT ON BILL THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THAT THEY WOULD BRING UP HOMES. TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING CONSIDERING NO EXCEPTIONS TO CONCURRENCY, NO WAIVERS, COORDINATE WITH FDOT AND DEP REGARDING RESPECTIVE ISSUES SPECIFICALLY SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND SO FORTH.

INCREASED FIRE RISK -- AND PROTECT OUR LOCAL RULE.

WE HAVE SOME THREATS IN THE SENATE RIGHT NOW THAT WE NEED TO VOTE AGAINST. EXAMINE FLEXIBLE DENSITY STRATEGIES AND REWRITE THAT TREE ORDINANCE CONSERVE GREEN

SPACES. >> THANK YOU.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. >> THANK YOU MY NAME IS JAMIE -- I LIVE IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH FLORIDA.

I'VE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR A LONG TIME AND I WANT TO SHARE A FEW OF MY EXPERIENCES SITTING ON ADVISORY BOARDS.

IN MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES LIKE BEAUTIFUL HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND SOUTH CAROLINA. AND YOU KNOW, I HEAR EVERYTHING FROM THE EXPERTS TO THE LEGAL SIDE AND YOUR TIRELESS EFFORT IS REALLY RESPECTED BY EVERYBODY.

BUT KNOWING THAT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME.

LET ME JUST SHARE A COUPLE LITTLE THINGS.

PART OF THE PROBLEMS WHEN YOU HAVE DENSITY, RIGHT? WHEN WE HAVE THE MILITARY BUILD WITH ZERO LOT LINES WHAT DID THAT DO? MAXIMIZE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PIECE OF REAL ESTATE. YOU CAN'T PT A 4000 SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE ON A TINY LITTLE LOT.

IT DOESN'T WORK THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEN YOU'RE FORCED TO CLEAR CUT. THERE IS LOTS OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAD VERY SUCCESSFUL PROACTIVE PLANS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ADDRESS PROBLEMS THAT THE COMMUNITY FACES.

HAS A STUDY BEEN DONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE SUCCESSES OF SOME OF THOSE ARE? LET ME JUST BRING ONE STUDY THAT CAME TO THE FOREFRONT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, REAL QUICK. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SITE MANAGEMENT, SIZE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PIECE OF REAL ESTATE AND THEN IMPACT TO SOME OF THE MOST SENSITIVE WETLANDS AND TRIBUTARIES IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. DEVELOPER CAME IN, PAID $500,000 FOR AN IMPACT FEE AND I THINK THE IMPACT FEES ARE PART OF IT I THINK EVERY BUILDING PERMIT SHOULD HAVE TO SHARE IN THAT SMALL TAX OR IMPACT FEE.

LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT YOU ONLY TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE.

DEVELOPERS DO HAVE THE RIGHT AND ARE PART OF A PARTNERSHIP TO THE GROWTH OF A COMMUNITY FOR SERVICES AND HOMES.

BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE PEERS WE HAD A HUGE PROBLEM. WE HAVE CONTAMINATION OF ONE OF

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HE CAME IN HIS TEAM DID A STUDY AND BECAME TO FIND OUT THE DEVELOPER THAT PUT IN, THE DRAINAGE WAS WRONG, HE TOOK DOWN TRACY SHOULD NOT HAVE, THE IMPACT FOR THE RUNOFF OF THE BUILDINGS AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTIONS BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WAS THE HORSE FARM BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY EXCLUSIVE PIECE OF REAL ESTATE SO THAT $500,000 FEE TURNED INTO FOUR AND HALF MILLION DOLLAR CLEANUP AND THERE WAS NO REPRIMAND. SO WE CHANGED REGULATIONS AND NOW DEVELOPERS HAVE TO ABIDE BY THESE REGULATIONS AND THEY ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. OR YOU CAN'T BUILD.

>> THAT IS YOUR TIME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COMMENT.

>> MY NAME IS DAVID WILLIAMS, 10460 TARPON AVENUE.

FLAGLER ESTATES. I AM ON THE ROAD IN WATER DISTRICT BOARD AND AS SECRETARY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR TAX INCREASE OR NOT INCREASES BUT TAX REVENUES, ARE UP 168 PERCENT. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

WE DID NOT RAISE TAXES OR ANYTHING.

THE DEVELOPERS WERE ENTREPRENEURS IF YOU WISH, ARE PAYING UP THE BACK TAXES. AND LOTS ARE BEING IN ESSENCE, THEY ARE BEING EXCHANGED. THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS THAT I AM AWARE OF IT BEING SECRETARY AS TO WHAT THE REVENUES ARE AND I KNOW HOW MANY BUILDING IMPACTORS AND CULVERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ALSO COMING.

WE ARE UNDER DEVELOPMENT WE WILL BE ON THAT NEXT MAP BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY.

THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS THAT AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CRA, AT LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND OF COURSE, WE RAISED MONEY THROUGH GRANTS TO BUILD A COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND BUT WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE ROADS.

NOW I UNDERSTAND RECENTLY, THAT THROUGH COLLECTIONS, WE PAID FOR OUR ROADS THAT WE WENT INTO DEBT FOR IN 2004.

I BELIEVE WE ARE IN THE BLOCK SO TO SPEAK.

WE ONLY HAVE 40 PERCENT BLACKTOP ROADS AND THE REST ARE MAILINGS OR THEY ARE UNIMPROVED.

I KNOW THAT TRANSPORTATION, WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT REINVESTING MONIES INTO LOCAL DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT OF OUR ROADS. ONCE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COME HERE, AND I KNOW THEY ARE, AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET TO WORK? I'VE BEEN TO NORTHEAST TRAINING PLAN ORGANIZATION ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO AND I HAD, THEY HAD A MEETING AND WHAT THEY SAID WAS, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO CREATE A BETTER SAFER ROAD FOR FLAGLER STATES AND ADD THEM TO THE COUNTY SO THE 305 EXTENSION IDEA CAME UP WE HAVE A 305 WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL ROAD, HARDTOP ROAD RAISED AND EVERYTHING THAT RUNS FROM ELGIN DOWN TO 204 AND THEN STOPS, THAT'S IT. PART OF THAT LAND HAS BEEN DONATED TO EXTEND THAT ROAD DOWN TO COUNTY ROAD 13,

>> THAT IS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. I WANT TO -- MY NAME IS DWIGHT MILLER I LIVE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SPONSORING THE WORKSHOP TODAY. FOR THE CITY HERE LISTENING TO ALL OF US AND I WILL TRY NOT TO RUN LONG AND KNOW THAT YOU WON'T LET ME. I'M A MEMBER OF CARE, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD CARES CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS ON HER MIND, AND THE SERIOUS NEEDS OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTS REQUIRING ATTENTION. LEADS FOR WHICH CORRECTION IS PROMISED ON GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE 20 -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE NEEDS THAT HAVE NOT YET

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JOHN'S COUNTY CORRECT POTABLE WATER DEFICIENCIES SHALL PROVIDE SANITARY SEWER SERVICES TO AREAS FOR THE LACK OF SERVICE DETERMINED TO BE A PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT AND SO ON.

THE WORD SHALL, AS YOU KNOW IN YOUR DOCUMENTS ALLOWS NO EXCEPTION FOR INTERPRETATION OTHER THAN A PROMISE.

TO DO OTHERWISE VIOLATES PUBLIC TRUST, BETRAYS PUBLIC INTEREST AND UNDERMINES THE INTENT OF THE PLAN ITSELF.

Í RECOGNIZES THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS WRITTEN IN 1990 WITH MANY SUBSEQUENT UPDATES.

SOME NEEDS UNDERSERVED RESIDENTS TODAY ARE DIFFERENT, NEW FROM WHAT THEY WERE BACK THEN.

MUST'VE INCREASED IN SEVERITY AND THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT. MANY OF THE PROBLEMS FACED BY THE RESIDENTS TODAY MIGHT NOT EXIST HAD THE PROMISES OF THE PLANNED AND IMPLEMENTED. WE APPLAUD AND GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR RECENT EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED IN WEST AUGUSTINE.

WE ASK THAT YOU SIMILARLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN HASTINGS AND FLAGLER STATES.

WE DESPERATELY NEED ASSISTANCE. AS SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER, LET'S SOLVE THE HOUSING CRISIS BY TAKING A PAGE FROM WHAT HAS WORKED SO SPLENDIDLY IN PINELLAS COUNTY.

PLEASE WORK WITH OUR ST. JOHN'S MINISTER PARLEY'S TO DEVELOP A HOUSING COMPACT FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

IN CLOSING, IT IS OUR POSITION IN OUR COUNTIES NEEDS OF THE UNDERSERVED WILL NEVER BE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED UNTIL ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY TAKES OWNERSHIP OF THEM AND THE RELATED ISSUES THAT CREATE OUR CONCERNS. ALL OF OUR DEDICATED COMMUNITY NONGOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS ARE WORKING SO HARD TO FIX THINGS BUT STILL NEVER REALLY SUCCEED WITHOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT. WE NEED YOU, TRUST YOU NEED YOUR UNFAILING COMMITMENT TO MAKING THINGS RIGHT FOR EVERYONE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> BJ -- WEST CITY SAINT AUGUSTINE. [INAUDIBLE] I GOT UP BEFORE 12:00 AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE GOT SOME BEHIND ME AND WE WILL CONTINUE SO THEY CAN SPEAK. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON ROAD IMPACT FEES? KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT.

NUMBER TWO, LOBBYIST DEVELOPERS CREATE FLORIDA STATUTES TO BENEFIT THE BOTTOM LINE AND PEOPLE ARE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT TODAY. GET TO TALLAHASSEE AND GET THINGS DONE. RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE THAT DONE.

MONEY VERSUS QUALITY OF LIFE IS DESTROYING THE COUNTY.

AND I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THE CITY SAINT AUGUSTINE HAS BEEN DESTROYED. DON'T WANT TO FACE THE FACT THAT IT IS A FACT. SHAMEFUL FACT.

LET ME THANK -- LET ME GET DOWN HERE.

AND DEVELOPERS, SINCE HAVE COME TO MEETINGS AND PAY ATTENTION A LOT, DEVELOPERS MANIPULATE COUNTY STAFF.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THE COUNTY COULD PUT A STOP ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEVELOPERS SINCE STAFF ARE OVERWORKED.

HAVE THEM WAIT INSTEAD OF COMING IN AND WANTED TWO DAYS AGO. AND LET ME THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING.

WERE NOT PAID TO SIT HERE. DEVELOPERS AND LAWYERS CAN SIT HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE PAID. NO TAX INCREASE, THE DEVELOPER WHO SPOKE EARLIER FOR INCREASING TAXES LEFT -- AND HERE'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

AND IT'S SERIOUSLY PEOPLE SHOWING UP TODAY.

AND THEY WANT TO HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE AND IT IS MONEY VERSUS QUALITY OF LIFE IS DESTROYING THE COUNTY.

AND WE ARE ALL CLEAR AND EVERYONE IS LISTENING, ARE WE KILLING THE GOLDEN GOOSE? THINK ABOUT THAT.

WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING.

AND OF COURSE, 56 SECONDS, WE NEED TO PUT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AHEAD OF THE AGENDA ITEMS DURING THE REGULAR BCC MEETINGS. THANK YOU.

I'M GLAD THESE ARE THE FOUR PEOPLE GET TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. YES MA'AM.

I ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT LIKE TO SPEAK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANY OF THE OTHER PODIUMS AND WE WILL COORDINATE TIME.

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YES MA'AM. >> THANK YOU.

FIRST TIME AT A MEETING LIKE THIS SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS CHRIS -- 510 MCKINSEY CIRCLE. MY CONCERN IS THE RATE THE COUNTY IS GROWING AND I UNDERSTAND AND I KNOW VERY WELL HOW GROWTH WORKS. I WAS A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF BROWARD COUNTY AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE SO WE DON'T WANT THAT HERE. THAT SAID, RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT IN THE COUNTY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT RISK ESPECIALLY DURING THIS PANDEMIC. COME HOME WITH YOU KNOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT. SO THEY DESERVE OUR SUPPORT AND GRATITUDE BUT THEY ARE UNDERSTAFFED AND UNDERPAID.

LOSING QUALITY EMPLOYEES TO DIFFERENT FORMS OF EMPLOYMENT HAS BECOME THE NORM. IN A PREVIOUS MEETING I HAVE SENT SALES TAX FOR PUBLIC SAFETY WAS INTRODUCED.

I THINK THIS WOULD HELP THE PUBLIC SAFETY SECTOR BECOMING MORE COMPETITIVE AGAINST OTHER PLACES.

PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. ANNA MASKING THE BOARD TO REVISIT THIS. WE NEED TO RETAIN OR RECRUIT WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. FOR THIS COUNTY, THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS TERRY SURE RESIDENT AND IN PLENTY AND I WAS THE FIRST NAME ON THE SPEAKERS LIST SIGN IN.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS PERCEIVED AND VERY REAL ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH AND SURROUNDING SIX COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

ST. JOHN'S COUNTY BEING THE NUMBER ONE DECREASED POPULATION BESIDES CONSIDERING GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY I FEEL IT IS IMPERATIVE AND I HOPE THAT THIS IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE THAT ALL SURROUNDING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE MEETING TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES BECAUSE IF WE JUST HANDLE THE PROBLEM HERE, AND IT IS NOT TAKEN CARE OF THROUGHOUT ALL THE OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES, WERE NOT REALLY GOING TO MAKE MUCH HEADWAY. I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE MANY OF THE CENSUS DATA THAT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT NUMBERS BETWEEN 2019 AND 2021, THE SURROUNDING SIX COUNTIES HAVE GROWN BY 61,000 PEOPLE. 2018 CENSUS REPORTS ESTIMATED GROWTH BY 2030 TO OVER 1.81 MILLION POPULATION.

NUMBERS SHOW AS A 2021, ALREADY AT 1.8 MILLION PEOPLE.

PROJECTIONS FOR GROWTH FROM 2020 2025 AND ST. JOHN'S COUNTY IS BY 15.5 PERCENT OR 40,000 PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT WE CAN PRESUME TO EASILY SEE THAT THIS DOUBLING BY 2030.

GROWTH IS A BLESSING AND A CURSE.

BUT IT MUST BE HANDLED IMMEDIATELY AND LOGICALLY.

INFRASTRUCTURE HOUSING CRIME RESULTS BE CONSIDERED.

FROM AN EXAMPLE OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS IS US1 GOING BETWEEN LEWIS COUNTY SPEEDWAY AND VALLEY RIDGE.

THIS 12 DIFFERENT SPEED LIMITS IN 12 MILES.

OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS COMING IN HERE, TRAFFIC IS OUTSTANDING YOU KNOW GROWING ALL THE TIME AT POPULATION.

AND SINCE MOST FLORIDA DRIVERS CONSIDER SPEED LIMITS AS A SUGGESTION IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED.

CURRENTLY, YOU'RE IN CONSTANT TRAFFIC JAMS BETWEEN STATE ROAD 16 AND 312. INTERSTATE 95 IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ALREADY ONE OF THE DEADLIEST HIGHWAY SECTIONS IN FLORIDA AND WITH NEW HOUSING AND NEW DEVELOPMENT IT WILL ONLY WORSEN. CAN WE HANDLE THE WATER SYSTEMS AND SEWER SYSTEMS, THE INCREASED CAPACITY AND LANDFILLS AND RECYCLING CENTERS.

CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE IS BEING DESTROYED.

WE CANNOT HANDLE A NUMBER OF TRAFFIC, PEOPLE TRYING TO GO IN THERE NORMALLY ON WEEKENDS BUT ON HOLIDAYS IT'S EVEN WORSE.

LAND DEVELOPMENT RIGHT UP HERE BY THE NEW STATE ROUTE 313, THEY DEVASTATED THE AREA. CLEARCUTTING IS CRAZY.

YOU KNOW THESE ARE NOT CORNFIELDS IN ILLINOIS AND MISSOURI. WE NEED TO HAVE A BUFFER RELEASED A COUPLE OF HUNDRED FEET LIKE WE SEE IN FRONT OF PLENTY AND LAS COLINAS. I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME UNFORTUNATELY THE EDUCATION IS SOMETHING THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED WHERE PUTTING A NEW HIGH SCHOOL AND WE HAVE TEACHERS TO HANDLE THEM.WE DO NOT.

>> THANK YOU THAT YOUR TIME. >> -- I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID IN A JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. I'VE BEEN HERE 3 1/2 YEARS AND WHEN I FIRST MOVED IT WAS FANTASTIC I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH WILDLIFE IN MY LIFE. I'VE ALREADY SEEN IT DRASTICALLY DECREASE. AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ECOSYSTEM THAT IF WE ELIMINATE THE ANIMALS IN THE ECOSYSTEM, IT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE INSECTS WE HAVE AND

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JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERDEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. >> HELLO.

CATHERINE GOMEZ, 100 WIDENER COURT.

I BEGAN VISITING ST. JOHN'S COUNTY ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO.

AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH IT. I THINK THE FIRST THING I REALLY NOTICED IS HOW NICE PEOPLE ARE HERE.

PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED ON EVERYONE BUT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE YOU WOULD COUNTER HERE IS WELL MANNERED AND KIND AND NEIGHBORLY. AND IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN AN AREA LIKE THIS, YOU TAKE IT FOR GRANTED BECAUSE I MOVED HERE FROM SOUTH FLORIDA.I WORKED FOR 30 YEARS FOR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE AND IT IS NOT UNUSUAL TO NOT KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS UNLESS THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING HAPPEN.

AND SOUTH FLORIDA IS VERY DENSELY POPULATED.

I LIVE ON A ZERO LOT AND YOU WOULD THINK LIVE IN A ZERO LOT LINE, YOU REALLY KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS WELL BUT IT WAS KIND OF THE OPPOSITE. I REALLY WANTED TO LIVE SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE WERE NEIGHBORLY AND POLITE AND I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE THAT AND I KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A TERMINUS AMOUNT OF CONTROL OVER THAT BUT I'M NOT EVEN SUGGESTING ESPECIALLY SINCE I MOVED HERE THAT THERE BE NO GROWTH. I'M JUST ASKING THAT IT BE MEASURED GROWTH. AND THAT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS AREA DOES NOT TURN INTO AN AREA LIKE SOUTH FLORIDA WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, THE OTHER THING THAT I REALLY LOVED ABOUT THIS AREA IS THE LANDSCAPING, THE TYPOGRAPHY, THE TREES AND I'M NOT NAC/VE, I REALIZE PEOPLE ON THEIR LOTS AND THEY WANT TO SELL THIS THE RIGHT TO A DEGREE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING WIPED OUT. WITHOUT ANY CONCERN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE OPPOSE SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT IS THE WAY IT'S DONE. I TOOK 16 HERE ALMOST THE WHOLE WAY AND AS YOU DRIVE BY YOU KNOW, THE BUILDERS COME IN AND THEY WIPE OUT EVERY TREE. IF YOU'RE LUCKY THERE ARE SOME IN THE BACK. IN MY LIFETIME I LIVED IN DIFFERENT HOMES PARTICULARLY MY CHILDHOOD, WE ALWAYS LIVED IN NEW HOMES. AND THEY WOULD LEAVE SOME TREES SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I KNOW IT PROBABLY MAKES IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM BUT LET'S INCONVENIENCE THEM SOME.

HEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY. I DON'T THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING UNREASONABLE ABOUT ASKING THAT THERE BE MORE TREES, THE LAST THING I WOULD ALSO SAY IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WHATEVER CODE WE HAVE IN PLACE, AS FAR AS WHAT TREES MUST BE PUT INTO NEW DEVELOPMENTS, TALKING BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. IT IS INSUFFICIENT.

I CAN'T WALK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD DURING THE DAY, IT HAS TO BE LESS THAN EXCUSE ME, 65 IF IT IS SUNNY.

IT IS JUST SO UNBEARABLY HOT. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME SET OF INITIATIVE FROM THE COUNTY TO PLANT MORE TREES AND ENCOURAGE MORE TREES TO BE PLANTED PARTICULARLY NATIVE TREES OR HELP WILDLIFE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YES SIR?

>>. [INAUDIBLE] I MOVED HERE 15 YEARS AGO FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA BECAUSE I SAID THIS WAS A QUIET LITTLE DRINKING TOWN.

NOW IT'S AN OLDER POPULATED TRAFFIC JAM.

BUT IT DID NOT SEE ANY SLIDES TODAY ABOUT SCHOOLS.

ANYBODY KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING HOUSES, HOUSES COME WITH KIDS. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT SCHOOLS PEERLESS GET THE TRAFFIC.

HOW MANY PEOPLE SPENT FIVE MINUTES AT THE CORNER 312 ON HIGHWAY ONE BETWEEN 11 AND ONE? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET TO THAT LIGHT? 20 MINUTES.

BEFORE CHANGES. IT IS NICE TO DO THIS BUILDING BUT ON WILDWOOD YOU RECRUIT 500 HOUSES THUS 1000 CARS.

THEY ALL COME OUT AT 207, DOWN TO THE CORNER WILDWOOD AND HIGHWAY ONE. LET'S ADD 500 TO THOSE TWO CORNERS. I PITY PEOPLE THAT LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE I LIVE IN A MAIN ROAD AND MY NEIGHBOR WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS DIRT I'VE ONLY LIVED THERE 15 YEARS.

THE TRAFFIC, WHEN YOU DO THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AHEAD. EVERY HOUSE HAS TWO CARS.

I WALK EVERY MORNING AT 6 O'CLOCK.

RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THOSE PEOPLE HAVE FOUR CARS PER HOUSE.

FOUR! SO WHEN YOU APPROVE A HOUSE FOUR BEDROOMS THAT IS FOUR CARS.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S 144 MAILBOXES FOR THE CONDOS.

TIMES TWO! THAT'S 288 CARS ON WILDWOOD.

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HOW MANY KIDS COME WITH THESE HOUSES AND IT WAS IN THE PAPER LAST WEEK OR LATELY THAT WE WERE BUILDING TWO SCHOOLS IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS. IF WE BUILD THEM AND OCCUPY THEM IN 24 MONTHS I'LL TAKE ALL OF Y'ALL TO LUNCH.

PROMISE! AND THEN TODAY I READ ON THE WEBSITE WE ARE BUILDING 20 SCHOOLS IN 20 YEARS.

ANYBODY BEEN DOWN TO DAYTONA BEACH ACROSS FROM THE HOSPITAL NEXT TO THE -- 2-- FIVE YEARS T BUILD THE SCHOOL.

WHERE YOU GOING TO PUT THE SCHOOLS? YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS.

HE'S GOING TO BUILD MORE HOUSES, OKAY.

BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE MESS.

BUT IF YOU GO TO THE CORNER 312 AND HIGHWAY ONE, ANYTIME GOING TO LUNCH, IT TAKES ME 20 MINUTES TO GET TO HOME DEPOT.

I'VE GOT A DOCTORS APPOINTMENT IN NOCATEE AND IT TAKES ME ONE HOUR TO GET THERE. THOSE TWO THINGS, -- BUT THE TRAFFIC IS ON HIGHWAY ONE AND IT IS JUST KILLING US.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

YES SIR? >> CHUCK -- 1748 N. -- 959 HOMES IN MY COMMUNITY. ON 16 THIS DOESN'T JUST AFFECT 16, IT IS RACETRACK ROAD, 210, WE ARE TAKING A FOUR LANE ROAD AND SHOVING IT DOWN TO A TWO LANE ROAD.

WITH MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON.

IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, I WILL LEAVE THIS, A LAYOUT OF THE AREA AROUND 16, IF YOU LOOK, YOU GOT SILVERLEAF, IN THE PLANNING OR. [BLEEP] STAGE, 16,000 HOMES, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SAINT AUGUSTINE? 16. IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THERE, WE GOT GRAND OAKS BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW, BOTH HUNDRED HOMES GOING IN THE AREA.

THE APARTMENT COMPLEX GOING UP NOW.

WE GOT THE ASSISTED LIVING BEHIND THAT.

WE KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE TO THAT 16 CORRIDOR.

BUT IT CAN'T HOLD TRAFFIC IT IS OVERCAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T ENVY -- HE'S GOT HIS HANDS FULL.

HE HAS MULTIPLE ISSUES THERE ARE 16, HE GOT TO PUT IN A BRIDGE. HE'S GOING TO COME UP WITH THE FUNNY. SECTION OF 16 FROM -- DOC-- IT SUPPOSED BE DONE YEARS AGO AND THERE WAS NO FUNDING.

SUPPOSEDLY THERE WILL BE FUNDING FROM THE GRAND OAKS SIGHED HOW MANY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WILL THAT BE? THE IMPACT FEES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO IT OR NOT, WE NEED TO TAKE OUT AND HIT THE IMPACT FEES IMMEDIATELY FOR TRANSPORTATION. BECAUSE ONCE THE COMMUNITY STARTS, YOUR TRANSPORTATION HEADACHES START BECAUSE YOU GOT ALL THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

NOW ALL THE WORKERS GOING IN SO IMMEDIATELY, THE TRANSPORTATION, THE ROAD SECTION IS HURTING BIG TIME.

IF YOU TAKE ALL THESE COMMUNITIES AND THESE ARE ALL ROUGH NUMBERS, IF YOU TAKE ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA, IT'S $162 MILLION JUST IN THE ROAD IMPACT FEES.

THEY COULD BE COLLECTED NOW. NOT LATER AFTER THE COMMUNITIES ARE DONE, BUILT OUT EVERYTHING ELSE LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T BREAK THIS DOWN. GET THE IMPACT FEE FOR THE ROADS OUT OF THERE. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. IF YOU PLEASE TURN THAT INTO

STAFF, THANK YOU SIR. >> BARBARA -- 17 ON PALM HELMET CIRCLE I LIVE IN EAGLE CREEK UP THE ROAD.0 YEARS NOW.

DID NOT THINK I WOULD GROW OLD THERE BUT APPARENTLY THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. I DID NOT PREPARE ANY COMMENTS I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING BUT I REALLY BE IMPRESSED BY WHAT I'VE SEEN TODAY. YOU GUYS HOLDING THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, COMMENTS HAVE BEEN REALLY GREAT.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT CAPACITY, COMMUTATIVE IMPACT, HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ARE WE GOING TO HAVE.

EVERYTHING HAS A CAPACITY. WHETHER IT IS A ROAD OR SCHOOL OR FIRE STATION, WHATEVER IT IS.

SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN RESONATING WITH ME AND I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S JUST, WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE OUT THERE TODAY? THINGS ARE HAPPENING SO QUICKLY. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT TODAY AND I LOOK AT IT LIKE A 12 OUNCE GLASS OF WATER.

A 12 OUNCE GLASS OF WHAT I COULD PUT 11 OUNCES AND THERE ARE PROBABLY STILL PICK IT UP AND TAKE A SIP EVEN THOUGH I'M SHAKIER THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE. YOU KNOW YOU GOT ANOTHER OUNCE TO THAT IT'S SITTING THERE AND IT'S GOT 12 OUNCES IN IT NOW BUT NOW YOU PROBABLY CANNOT PICK IT UP AND TAKE A SIP

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IF ST. JOHNS COUNTY -- AT THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, HOW MANY OUNCES ARE ALREADY IN THE CUP? HOW MANY OUNCES ARE IN HERE AND HOW MANY MORE CAN YOU PUT IN? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE SOME OUT TO PUT MORE INQUIRY I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND IT'S HAPPENING SO QUICKLY THAT I JUST THINK IT WAS ONE THING THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED.

THE COMMENT ABOUT THE CARS WAS GREAT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE DEVELOPMENT. SOMEONE HAS A LOT TO PUT A HOUSE ON IT. GREAT! THE WORK TO COME IN AND SAY I'M GOING TO DO THREE R10 LOTS? I HAVE SIX CARS INSTEAD OF TWO. YOU'VE GOT MORE CARS OUT ON THE ROAD AND MORE STUFF GOING ON. ANYWAY, THOSE WERE THE THINGS I THOUGHT OF AS I SAT HERE AND LISTEN.

I ALSO APPRECIATED THE COMMENTS ABOUT JUST THE IMPACT OF GETTING TRADESPEOPLE TO HOUSES THESE DAYS.

SMALL BUSINESSES. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THAT, TRY TO GET AN ELECTRICIAN OR PLUMBER.

IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO OUR HOMES AND ENSURE THEY ARE SAFE BUT THAT'S BECOMING MORE OF A CHALLENGE TOO.

ANYWAY, JUST A REALLY GREAT WORKSHOP AND I THINK EVERYONE IS TRYING TO HELP AND COMMENTS HAVE BEEN GREAT.

I APPRECIATE IT.> THANK YOU. YES SIR?>> GEORGE -- 5658.

[INAUDIBLE] TO BORROW THE WORDS OF THE GREAT AMERICAN PHILOSOPHER, YOGI BERRA. [LAUGHTER] HIS WAS LIKE DC)JC VU ALL OVER AGAIN. I'VE BEEN APPEARING BEFORE THIS BODY FOR OVER 25 YEARS NOW. ADVOCATING SMART GROWTH, PRESERVATION OF LAND AGAINST ROUTINE VARIANCES, AGAINST REZONING BY PUD. ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN COMING UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

IT HAS BEEN DC)JC VU TODAY. 20 YEARS AGO, WE INITIATED A PROJECT CALLED SAINT JOHN'S VISION.

IT WAS AN EXTENSIVE PIECE OF WORK, WE PRODUCED THE FINAL DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN ROUTINELY IGNORED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. I WOULD SUGGEST YOU PULL THAT OUT AND DUSTED OFF AND SEE WHAT WE WANTED 20 YEARS AGO.

IT ACTUALLY SOUNDS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, USE THAT AS A GUIDELINE FOR YOUR FUTURE WORK. I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THE VIEW THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR LEGISLATORS BECAUSE IF THEY KEEP DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING, YOUR JOB IS GOING TO GO AWAY BECAUSE THEY'VE TAKEN IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO QUOTE JAMES EARL RAY FROM FIELD OF DREAMS, OR NOT CORPORATE PARAPHRASE. TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, IF YOU DON'T BUILD IT, THEY WON'T COME.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. >> SASHA, 173 COASTAL HOLLOW CIRCLE. I WAS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND BOARD OF THE ST. JOHN'S VISION THOSE YEARS AGO. CLEARCUTTING PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED IS DESTROYING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND MOVE ABILITY IN OUR COUNTY. THE TREE CANOPY AND THE WILDLIFE LETTERING ABOVE AND BELOW INCREASES ENJOYMENT OF PROPERTY AND PROPERTY VALUES OF RESIDENCE.

ON THE OTHER HAND DEVELOPERS CLEAR-CUT A GREAT MANY OF THEM WITHOUT EVEN ADVANCED PERMITTING.

IT MAKES DEVELOPMENT EASIER FOR THEM AND MORE PROFITABLE.

THEY CAN TAKE OUT A CHECKBOOK AND PAY INTO A SO-CALLED TREE BANK FUND AS A COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

OKAY SO ONE, THERE IS A LACK OF SUFFICIENT AND RELIABLE GROWTH MANAGEMENT REGULATION. TWO, THERE'S A GREAT -- REVIEWS AND REVIEW POLICIES WHICH MAY BE DUE TO THE LACK OF EMPLOYEES AND TRYING TO DO IT. AND THREE, NO INCENTIVES TO

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AND BECOME OF THE GOOD OLD PROPERTY RIGHTS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF OUR RESIDENTS? LET'S BRING BACK THE THOUSAND FRIENDS OF FLORIDA INITIATIVES ELEMENT TO CHANGE OUR PROPERTY RIGHT DOCUMENTS AND LET'S NOT TAKE NO AS AN ANSWER FOR GETTING SOMETHING DONE, IN MAY 2019 COMMISSIONER BLOCKER BACKED BY THE BOARD SUGGESTED AND AGREED TREES IN OUR COUNTY SHOULD BE PROTECTED.

STAFF CAME BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH SOME WEAK PROPOSALS.

THEY ACTUALLY TRIED TO CONSOLIDATE OUR ARTICLE 4.

THESE EFFORTS WERE DROPPED WITHOUT ACTION.

IN A CITIZEN TREES WORKSHOP IN 2014 FIVE YEARS EARLIER THE BILLING DEPARTMENT SUGGESTED USING -- CONSTRUCTION AND IT NEVER WENT FURTHER. IT COST 250 TO $550 TO REPLACE ONE TREE. AND MANY SPECIES ARE IRREPLACEABLE. SITE CLEARANCE WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION. ON A1A NORTH K CLEAR-CUT DEVELOPMENT 2020 STILL NAKED ON 11 POINT FIVE ACRES, 538 TREES WERE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH 122 WHEN I SEE THEM.

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE REGULATIONS THAT ALLOW CLEARING OF JUST THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS. WE MUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRESERVE OUR TREE CANOPY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IS TO THE SAYING THAT CAN'T BE DONE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ANYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY SPOKEN? SEEING THEN, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD.

THE FIRST THING I'LL SAY BEFORE ANYONE LEAVES THE PUBLIC INFORMATION STAFF IS GOING TO PUT UP AT SOME POINT, AND OVERHEAD WHICH HAS ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CONTACTS FOR NOTICE OF ANY PROPOSED COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLANS ETC. WHILE WE ARE FINISHING UP YOU MIGHT WANT TO JOT THOSE DOWN OR THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC, TODAY BROUGHT HOME PRETTY CLEARLY MANY WANT TO BE HEARD AND WE WANT TO BE HEARING FROM YOU. I WANT TO ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT WE PROBABLY NEED A BRIEF DISCUSSION OR LONGER FROM EACH OF US TO COMMENT AND DIGEST WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND I'LL RECOMMEND WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW WHILE WE STOP NUMBER RESIDENTS HERE RATHER THAN TAKE A BREAK. I'M PREPARED TO CONTINUE ON IF EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

WE WILL PROCEED. I WILL START OVER HERE MY LEFT AND CALL IN EACH COMMISSIONER TO SHARE THOUGHTS OR OFFER SUGGESTIONS AND SEE WHERE THAT TAKES US.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN PITTS FIRST OF ALL WANT TO THINK EVERY RESIDENT THAT CAME IN TODAY AND MADE THE TIME TO COME AND EXPRESS INPUT.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR THIS, THIS IS WHY WE AS A BOARD FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HEAR THE IDEAS BECAUSE IF TO TAKE THEM AND WORK WITH WE HAVE AN STAFF.

A COUPLE OF IDEAS ALIKE TO BRING TO THE BOARD SINCE WE BEEN SITTING HERE, I'LL ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS BUT THEY ARE QUESTIONS I'M STRUGGLING WITH.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT FORM OF GOVERNMENT FOR THE CURRENT AND FUTURE GROWTH NEEDS? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER COUNTIES IN FLORIDA HAVE GROWN AT A RAPID PACE, THEY HAVE ADJUSTED THEIR FORMER GOVERNMENT.

WE ARE SET UP WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSON MODEL, EVERY COUNTY OF FLORIDA SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT WE ARE REALLY SET UP TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF A VERY RURAL COMMUNITY. WE ARE NOT A RURAL COMMUNITY ANYMORE.NOT JUST A FARM COMMUNITY THAT SOMETHING WE AS A BOARD TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT. TO HAVE THE RIGHT FORM OF GOVERNMENT TO ADDRESS CURRENT AND FUTURE GROWTH NEEDS, IT'S AN IDEA I STRUGGLE WITH A LITTLE BIT I THINK AGAIN WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER EXAMPLES, IN FLORIDA OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE GROWN AT A RAPID PACE. YOU'VE SEEN AND ADJUSTED AND MODIFIED THE COMMUNITY WORKING WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS TO REALLY FULLY ADDRESS IT'S HARD FOR THE FIVE OF US WITH CONSTRAINTS AND SUNSHINE THE WAY WE MEET TO FULLY JUST AN OUTLINE, WILL HAVE AN OBJECTIVE POSITION WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED AN STAFF TO DO A GREAT JOB BUT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE LOOKED AT HAVING MORE AND ELECTED EXECUTIVE THAT CAN NOW -- THE BOARD CAN SUPPORT THE VISION BUT OUR VISION IS JUST COMING

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I THINK WE CAN BUILD ON THIS BUT IT'S A QUESTION I STRUGGLE WITH I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT AND THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT. MOBILITY FEES.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD MOBILITY FEES BE AN OPTION FOR LONG-RANGE PLANNING AND IMPROVING TRANSPORTATION TO THE RESIDENTS. WE ARE PROBABLY NOT FULLY ADJUSTING HER KNEES RIGHT NOW. WE ARE AN ACTIVE COMMUNITY, WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WALK AND BIKE, JUST FOR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS BUT TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS AND EXERCISE. I THINK THE PANDEMIC ILLUSTRATED THE CONSTRAINTS OF THAT.

I THINK WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE FUNDING THIS WHEN WE ARE REQUIRING DEVELOPERS TO PUT INTO IT.

ARE WE FULLY BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.

I APPRECIATE DOCTOR NICHOLS COMING UP.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA HAVE EXPERIENCED RAPID GROWTH, THE GENERAL HAD MOVED AWAY FROM IMPACT FEES.

IMPACT FEES ARE I BELIEVE THEY ARE TO FULLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS. WE LIKE OUR BOARD TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET MOBILITY FEES, SAINT AUGUSTINE HAS, CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. DIFFERENT COMPANIES LOOK AT THAT. WE HAVE STAYED VERY STAGNANT AND STUCK WITH THE SAME IMPACT FEES WE'VE HAD FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS AND THEY PROBABLY WORKED GREAT 30 OR 40 YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE EFFECTIVE TODAY.

PEOPLE WANT MORE SIDEWALKS I HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN AND RAISING THEM AND I GET IT. WE USE THE SIDEWALKS WE NEED MORE OF IT. ANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BUY AND WALK AND ENJOY NATURAL BEAUTY.

I DON'T KNOW THE CURRENT FEE STRUCTURES ARE EFFECTIVE IN ADDRESSING THAT. I WILL BRING THAT JUST UP AS A POINT OF THOUGHT OF SUGGESTION. DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR LAND DEVELOPER CHANGES? WE HAVE OVERLAY DISTRICTS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY THAT REQUIRE THAT. I THINK COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS IMPORTANT HERE FROM THE COMMUNITY BEFORE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES WERE REPORTED ON ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF IT OR NOTICE WAS NOT -- IT WAS SOMETHING WE JUST AS A BOARD AND CONTINUE TO ADDRESS IS A BOARD. IT IS SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER. I SPOKE WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'D BE A POST I THINK EVERYONE WOULD BENEFIT FROM MORE CONVERSATION AND OPPORTUNITY, BRING THIS UP AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD. THING WILL BE HELPFUL TO HAVE FURTHER WORKSHOPS. I THINK MAYBE IF WE DO THIS IN THE EVENINGS OR I KNOW A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW. WE KEEP THE COMMUNITY GOING BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO THAT.

I THINK WE CAN BUILD MAYBE OTHER SUBJECT MATTERS IN MORE DETAIL. MAY WE CAN NO MORE DISCUSSIONS YOU HAVE EXPERTS COME IN, THING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR US AS A BOARD. I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

ANOTHER POINT OF THOUGHT ON THAT.

AND AGAIN, TO THE BOARD, I THINK WE HAVE TO GET THE TREE PRESERVATION BACK ON THE AGENDA.

WE STARTED WITH THAT WITH THE GROUP A GREAT DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO FINALLY ADDRESS CLEARCUTTING OUR CODE.

THE WAY THE CORD WAS SET UP WAS TO ADDRESS CERTAIN NEEDS BUT DOESN'T MEET OUR NEEDS FAVORITE TO GET WORTH DELVING INTO NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT REALLY LOOKING HOW WE CAN ODIFY THAT.

I FEEL THE BOARD HAS BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN ADDRESSING COMMUNITY CONCERNS, THIS IS CERTAINLY A CONCERN I HEAR COSTLEY AND I SEE IT CONSTANTLY IN MY DISTRICT AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. I WOULD ASK US COLLECTIVELY TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN AND ADDRESSING THAT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN FOR THE TIME.

>> MR. TRAN EIGHT. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING TODAY AND PUTTING YOUR TIME AND EFFORT IN TO YOUR COMMENTS AND ALL OF THE EMAIL I RECEIVED PRIOR. ONE THING THAT WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT WAS ONE OF MY LIST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PUBLIC NOTICE INCREASE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT ONE TIME.

WE HAVE MANDATORY MEETINGS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTY, I LIKE TO SEE THAT COUNTYWIDE.

WHEN DEVELOPERS DO THAT YOU KNOW SOMETHING WE CAN VOTE ON.

YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING IS TALKING ABOUT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CHARTER GOVERNMENT WHICH IS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT TRYING TO NOT ONLY MANDATORY MEETINGS BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE US, IT WILL BE NICE TO A DISTRICT REZONING APPLICATION WHERE WE ARE -- WE ARE ALL BUSY AND YOU CAN SAVE THESE FOR FIBER ASKING FOR THIS AREA. THAT WAY WE UNDERSTAND IT WILL

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SOME QUESTIONS CAME UP AND I'M NOT PUTTING THE BLAME ON ANYBODY BUT SCHOOLS BY WILL HAVE TO BE REACTIVE.

BUT HOWEVER, IT'S HARD FOR US WANT TO GET A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD SAYING WE ARE OKAY WITH THIS -- THEY'RE GETTING PAID PER STUDENT PER HOUSEHOLD. SO THAT MAKES IT HARDER.

IT TAKES IT OUT OF THE EQUATION IN MY MIND.

MAYBE NOT LEGALLY, BUT IT DOES IN MY MIND AND A LOT OF CHANGES THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR, NOT UNDEVELOPED THE OTHERS, SIDEWALKS, BIKE PATHS, ALL OF THIS.E ARE NOT A MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. WE ONLY HAVE, BASICALLY HAVE THREE MUNICIPALITIES LEFT. MARINE LAND IS ACTUALLY A CITY AND YOU KNOW HASTINGS, IT WAS RESOLVED.

HAVE SEEN AUGUSTINE THAT DOES WHAT THEY CAN DO.

THEY DON'T CHARGE IMPACT FEES. THEY ARE LOOKING AT A MOBILITY FEE. YOU HAVE THESE BUILDINGS UP AROUND THE COUNTY BUILDING THERE ON THE CITY.

AND THEIR SERVICE AREA IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THAT HURTS US AS FAR AS HAVING CONTROLS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND TAXATION. IT IS EASY TO DIVERT AND SAY YOUR RAISE TAXES OR CHANGE TAXES TO PAY FOR SIDEWALK AND WHAT PART OF THE COUNTY BUT YOU GUYS IN SOUTH PART OF COUNTY.

SOME OF US IS UNFORTUNATELY IN THE COUNTRY AND I LIKE IT.

GOT A FEW NEIGHBORS, NOT MANY THAT MIGHT COME BY ME BUT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR YEARS. AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

A LOT OF THE SUBDIVISIONS ARE BEING BUILT NOW APPROVED 10, 15, 20 YEARS AGO OR EVEN LONGER.

BY STATE LAW AT SUNSET THEY DO NOT SUNSET WHEN THEY DO NOT, BASICALLY DO NOT LOSE THEIR RIGHTS AND ENTITLEMENTS.

BASICALLY I WILL SAY YOU KNOW WE HAVE SOME ISSUES COMING UP IN THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE FLAGLER COUNTY IS GROWING SO BIG WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT ANOTHER MEETING NEXT BOARD MEETING. THEY'RE BUILDING RIGHT UP AGAINST FLAGLER COUNTY ST. JOHN'S COUNTY LINE, DOESN'T WORK IN ST. JOHN'S CONTY. THAT TRAFFIC IS COMING TO THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY. FLAGLER ESTATES IS BASICALLY THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS 8000 LOTS.

THIS HAS BEEN AROUND BACK WHEN I WAS PROBABLY 50, 60 YEARS -- I'M ONLY 53 SO TO REMEMBER. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HERE IN MY LIFETIME. AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DEVELOPING UP THEIR AND BUILDING UP TO HAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY. IT ALSO PUTS A STRAIN ON THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

OTHER THAN THAT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING AGAIN AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS. WE HAD 60 SPEAKERS.

WE TOOK TWO HOURS AND 40 MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH IS FANTASTIC. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN OUGHT TO ECHO WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY SAID.

AT THAT THE QUALITY OF PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE FANTASTIC AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT AND MAKING AND REALLY ARTICULATING POINT THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ASSIST COMMISSIONERS. THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO OBVIOUSLY DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT UNTIL WE DID REDISTRICTING WAS THE MOST POPULATED IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE SAW DECISIONS THAT WE MADE OVER 20 YEARS AGO AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THE FEES, SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, VETERANS PARKWAY, LONGLEAF PINE, MY MIND AND OBVIOUSLY IS CLOSE TO HOME FOR ME I THINK IT'S A SITUATION THAT WE CAN CREATE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES MOVING FORWARD.

IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE IN MY OPINION.

MOVING FORWARD BUT WE CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

AGAIN, IT'S GOT TO BE A PARTY FOR THE BOARD IN MY OPINION SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, SIDEWALKS MOBILITY, HAVING JOBS CLOSER TO HOME, AS SOMEONE VERY CLOSE TO ME THAT LIVES IN -- THAT GOT A JOB IN JACKSONVILLE AROUND BUTLER BOULEVARD AND THOSE OFFICE PARKS THEN GET A JOB ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM HIS HOUSE. IF WE CAN CREATE MORE OF THAT TAKING THE CARS OF THE MAJOR ARTERIES THE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK YOU WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THESE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT WE ARE FORCED TO DEAL WITH.

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HAVING ALL THE CHILDREN BIKING TO SCHOOL INSTEAD OF HAVING THEIR PARENTS DROP THEM OFF, THAT IT LIMITS A LOT OF CONGESTION THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE PEAK AM TRAFFIC TIMES.

CREATING JOBS CLOSER HOME TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO GET SOMETHING ALSO CAN HELP US ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND THE LAST THING IS YOU KNOW, THINK WAS MENTIONED BY MR. ROBERSON. ONE THIRD OF TOTAL ACREAGE HERE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WILL NEVER BE DEVELOPED.

WAS MENTIONED AND GLOSSED OVER. WE HAD THAT INFORMATION AS A BOARD AND THIS BOARD STILL VOTED TO REINSTATE AND REFUND THE LAND ACQUISITION AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

THIS IS A BOARD WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO FIND LAND FOR CONSERVATION. THERE ARE OTHER EFFORTS IN ADDITION TO LAND ACQUISITION AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT ARE GOING ON AS WE SPEAK BEHIND THE SCENES TO STATE FUNDING FEDERAL FUNDING TO ACQUIRE MORE LAND IN ADDITION TO THAT BUT THE SOLE PURPOSE OF CONSERVATION, I THINK IT SHOULD BE SAID THIS BOARD HAS HEARD THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF CONCERNING LAND TO MAINTAIN THE BALANCE AS WE GROW.

DECISIONS WERE MADE 20 YEARS AGO, 10 YEARS AGO AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO OVERTURN THOSE DECISIONS BUT MOVING FORWARD I BELIEVE IN THE SHORT TIME I'VE BEEN ABOARD, WE HAVE TAKEN SUBSTANTIVE STEPS TO ADDRESS THE DELICATE ECOSYSTEM THAT WE ALL ENJOY FROM ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

AGAIN I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT, I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR I THINK WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS ADDRESSING OUR

NEEDS AS A COUNTY. >> COMMISSIONER ARNOLD.

>> YES THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO ECHO WHAT THE BOARD SAID AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR COMING OUT TODAY WE SEE YOU, WE HEAR YOU. AND TO THAT I THINK IT IS PRETTY EVIDENT THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE KICKED THE CANNABIS ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES PARTICULARLY IN TRAFFIC AND ROADS, I THINK WE NEED TO CATCH UP THERE.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO EXPLORE MORE IN DEPTH ON THE MOBILITY FEES AND IMPACT TO ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION.

A YOUNG MOTHER WHO SPOKE AND SHOWED PICTURES OF THE TRUCK IN HER DRIVEWAY ALMOST HITTING HER KIDS, THERE WERE AUDIBLE GASPS IN HERE AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPTIONS.

I WOULD HOPE THAT MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, DISCUSS IT BUT THANK ALL OF YOU FOR COMING OUT TODAY I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> THANK YOU. A FEW BRIEF COMMENTS FROM ME.

FIRST OF ALL AGAIN, THANK EVERYONE, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED TODAY, IT'S REALLY GOOD INFORMATION REFLECTING ON COMMISSIONER BLOCKERS SUGGESTION, THE COMMISSIONERS AGREE WITH ME, I PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO HELD A SIMILAR WORKSHOP FOLLOWING UP ON SOME THINGS TO DO. MAYBE IN SIX MONTHS, MAYBE JULY. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE -- A GREAT PHILOSOPHER SAID I DON'T WANT TO BE ONE AND DONE.

YOU DON'T GET THE LSU OR DALLAS COWBOY FAN.

NEVERTHELESS, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE FOLLOW-UP TO MAKE THIS WORK NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IN MY MIND I WANT TO DIVIDE THE SORT OF ALL THE ISSUES WE'VE HEARD TODAY, I WANT TO DIVIDE THEM INTO SORT OF TWO BUCKETS.

THE FIRST IS FUTURE GROWTH, HOW DO WE DO WITH FUTURE GROWTH? HOW DO WE HANDLE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS.

HAD TO DO WITH COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS? HOW DO WE DO WITH VARIANCES? HOW DO WE DEAL AND MAKE SURE THERE IS SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES WITH IMPACT FEES AND HOW TO DEAL WITH FUTURE GROWTH? THAT IS A BIG ISSUE. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER BUCKET.

WHAT WE DO ABOUT THE EXTREME DEFICIT OR BACKLOG AND CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE. LET'S JUST ASSUME WE DO NUMBER DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COUNTY. NO MORE APPROVALS, NO MORE APPROVALS, ZONING, PUD. REMEMBER, THEY ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN PROBABLY 35,050 5000 ENTITLED LOTS AND IF WE SIT HERE AND DO NOTHING, THERE'S GOING TO BE JUST CALL IT 40,000 TOTAL LOTS THAT HAVE YET TO BE BUILT ON ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS PULL IT BUILDING PERMIT. IT IS PRETTY CLEAR WE HAVE A MAJOR DEFICIT AND BACKLOG AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE OUR ENT COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS NOT JUST ROADS BY THE WAY. I WANT TO DIG DOWN A LITTLE BIT

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TO SERVE THE EXISTING RESIDENTS OF THIS COUNTY, WITH MAJOR BACKLOG THAT WE NEED TO COME UP AND PUT ON THE TABLE AND DISCUSS IT AND THE ONLY TIME I CAN DISCUSS IT WITH MY COMMISSIONERS IS HERE IN A PUBLIC MEETING AND IS PROBABLY THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE, THERE IS A REASON FOR THE SUNSHINE LAW BUT WHAT I WANT TO DISCUSS IN THE NEAR TERM IS WHAT ALL THE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES AVAILABLE TO US TO ADDRESS CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE BACKLOG WHICH ALL ROUND OF INTERVIEWS $500 MILLION. PERSONALLY, I THINK WE NEED A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT TAKING THIS TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE RESIDENCE AND PUT IT ON THE REFERENDUM IN NOVEMBER.

LET'S HAVE A REFERENDUM AND LET RESIDENCE OF THE COUNTY MAKE A CHOICE.

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