[1. MAJMOD 2020-07 Tolomato River Farms. Request to modify the Tolomato River Farms PUD (Ordinance No. 2002-34) to remove approximately 1.31. acres, change the overall layout of the project on the northern side, remove a planned shared access point, relocate the planned RV/Boat Storage area, add commercial square footage, and change lot layout. The property is located at 3301 and 3303 Coastal Highway in the Vilano Beach area.]

HEARING ON JANUARY 20-2022. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY MR. PIERRE.

ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE LET'S THAT'S MOVED TO JANUARYE 20TH ALSO.

NOW WE HAVE MS. TAIR AND MR. WHITEHOUSE.

MS. TAYLOR AND MR. WHITEHOUSE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET.

AND WITH ME IS JAIPS WHITEHOUSE. AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF CONSULTANTS. WE ALSO HAVE THE OWNER, WHICH IS DEREK WONDERFUL EVER WOLVERTON WITH ME, AND SCOTT KOGUT AND LISA KOGYACK WHICH ARE PART OWNERS IN THIS AS WELL AND THEIR MOM WAS A PART OWNER AND SHE PASSED AWAY.

SO -- ANYWAY WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF FLIP BACK AND FORTH SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THIS SMOOTHLY DONE, SO I'LL TURN IT

OVER TO JAMES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN WITH AGENCY MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD JAMES WHITE HOUSE ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AS KAREN SAID WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANTS. THIS PARTICULAR --

>> -- >> THE VOLUME FOR BOTH OF YOU

SEEMS A LITTLE LOW. >> YES, SIR.

I'LL STAND CLOSER. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THIS APPLICATION IS, AS YOU KNOW FROM YOUR PACKETS AND FROM THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MAJOR MODIFICATION THE TO TOLOMATO RIVER FARMS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WHICH WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2002 BY BOTH THE AGENCY AT THAT TIME AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THIS PARTICULAR PUD CONSISTENT OF TWO PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE OVERHEAD.

THIS IS THE VILANO BRIDGE SO IT'S NORTH OF VILANO BRIDGE.

IT'S TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY. BOTH THESE PIECES WERE IN THE ORIGINAL PUD. THIS, WE'LL REFER TO TODAY AFFECTIONATELY AS THE SOUTH PIECE, THIS IS NORTH PIECE.

THIS PIECE NORTH OF NORTH PIECE IS THE NEW SALEM PARK WHERE P OF YOU MAY KNOW THERE'S BEACH PARKING THERE THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE. ONE OF THE BIG REASONS THAT WE'RE BACK, THIS PUD WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2002 AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT THE OWNERS AT THE TIME WERE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO TRY TO HAVE SOME JOINT ACCESS TO BOTH THE PARK AND THEIR PROPERTY. YOU'LL SEE LATER, AND YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR PACKETS THAT THE FORMER MDP MAP HAS THAT ACCESS ON IT COMING IN HERE ON THIS NORTHEAST IN BETWEEN THE PARK.

THE COUNTY SUBSEQUENT TO THAT DECIDED TO YFL THE COUNTY IS AS LOOKING FOR FUNDS TO DO THINGS BUT IT TOOK THEM A LITTLE HIGHWAY, AND THEY ENDED UP DOING THEIR PARNG A LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS PARK, SO THE SOUTHERN HALF IS STILL UNDEVELOPED AND THAT WAS THE PORTION TO THAT RUNS ADJACENT TO OUR NORTH PIECE. YOU WILL I DO NOT SEE LATER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, HOW WE ARE TAKING OUT THIS SHARED ACCESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT NEEDED ANYMORE BY THE COUNTY AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE MAJOR MODIFICATION.

ANOTHER REASON WAS AS THE TIME PROGRESSED, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW DURING THAT MID TO LATE 200 PERIOD THE ECONOMY SOURED ON ALL OF US, AND THIS WAS NOT DEFEND. THE SOUTHERN PIECE, YOU'LL SEE, THERE WAS A ROAD PUT IN AND THERE WAS ONE DEVELOPED HOUSE, AND THIS SOUTHERN PIECE ISN'T CHANGING REALLY AT ALL, I DON'T THINK, IN THIS APPLICATION. THE NORTHERN PIECE IS THE ONE THAT WE HAD TO RECONFIGURE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THAT BUT YOU WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE HISTORY AS TO WHY WE'RE BACK HERE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THIS IS A LITTLE MORE CLOSE-UP AS TO THE LOCATION OF THIS SITE.

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AND ALSO JUST TO KIND GO OVER IT REAL QUICK, THIS, AS I SAID, A A PRE-APPROVED PUD. IT'S EX PURDUE SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FORE A MAJOR MODIFICATION, BUT THE ZONING AS YOU SEE ON THIS PIECE IS PUD.

THE LAND THAT'S BEING ADDED, THIS IS -- THERE'S SOME WETLAND BUT ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE M DEPARTMENT P MAP AS YOU CAN SEE, AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THAT.

AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER AERIAL OF THE LOT THAT'S A LOT CLOSER.

YOU CAN SEE, AS A SAID, SAN PLAYO COURT IS ALREADY IN AND THERE'S A DEVELOPED HOUSE ON THIS LOT RIGHT HERE.

AND THE OTHER ONES ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR IT, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR ANYTHING DIFFERENT ON THOSE.

THIS IS THE AREA THAT -- ON THE MCHTD P MAP THAT YOU'LL SEE ANY LITTLE BIT. THE CONFIGURATION HAS CHANGED, BUT IT'S STILL SOME SINGLE-FAMILY BACK IN THIS AREA AND THEN SOME OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR EITHER TOWNHOUSES OR SINGLE FAMILY IN THIS AREA AND THEN SOME STUFF UP ON THE ROAD.

KAREN'S GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE

REQUESTS AND I'LL COME BACK. >> SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO ITEMIZE THE REQUEST AS I KIND O. I DO SUBMIT A LETTER OF REQUEST, AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT BUT THIS IS BASICALLY -- AND DEFINITELY JAMES HAS COVERED SOME OF THESE, YOU THE ABOUT THIS IS TO CHANGE THAT LAYOUT, TO REMOVE THAT SHARED PARK ACCESS, AND JUST TO QUALIFY THAT, HALF OF THE ROADWAY WAS GOING TO BE ON THE COUNTY PROPERTY AND HALF OF THE ROADWAY WAS GOING TO BE ON DEREK'S PROPERTY, AND HE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT WAS ALL SIGNED AND SEALED AND EVERYTHING, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE NEW PARK KIND OF WENT IN AND SHIFTED HIS THOUGHT HERE. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE A COMBINED ACCESS FOR THAT KIND ACTIVITY, BUT YOU OF IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF THE LAND, THE CONDITIONS OF THE LAND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MODIFY THE PUD TO REMOVE SOME OF THAT PROPERTY THAT BELONGED TO COUNTY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT CONSERVATION AREA UP TO IT, WHICH IS KIND OF I THINK A BONUS FOR IT. WE ARE REDUCING THE OVERA DENSITY ESTABLISHED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WAS 56 UNITS TO BEGIN WITH AND WE'RE GOING DOWN TO 58, SO 5848.

WE COP WITH THAT SOUTH PAR TELL SELL HATE SIX LOTS SO IT'S FORE EIGHT UNITS. AND THEN THE NORTH PARCEL WILL HAVE THE BALANCE OF THAT OR THE 40 UNITS.

WE'RE INCREASING THE BUFFER TO MATCH THE NORTH COASTAL CORRIDOR OVERLAY. REMEMBER, THIS WAS STARTED IN TWHOW, SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS WEREN'T -- 2000 SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS WEREN'T IN PLACE. WE ARE ASKING FOR A COUPLE REINTRODUCTIONS OF THE PERIMETER BUFFER, AND WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL WITH THOSE IN JUST SOME AREAS ON THE NORTH BOUNDARY AND A SMALL AREA ON THE SOUTHBOUND RI.

THERE IS A REQUEST TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY, AND WE'LL GET INTO AN EXPLANATION FROM THAT, BUT BASICALLY THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CHANGE IN ELEVATION.

THIS SITE GOES DOWN FROM A1A, AND PROVIDING PARKING UNDERNEATH. AND THE LAST IS THE REDESIGNATION OF WHAT WAS A COMPLEX WHICH HAD ITS OWN ENTRANCE, WHICH WAS PERMITTED AND INSTALLED WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET WITH A RESIDENTIAL UNIT OVER IT.

AND, OF COURSE, TO CHANGE THE PHASING.

>> AND IF I MAY, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH WHAT KAREN JUST SAID, AND I KIND REFERRED TO ITIER, THAT THIS IS THE NEW P THAT'S IN YOUR PACKETS, AND IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN NOW.

IT KIND OF GOES OVER THE DIRCHEN THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE SITE.

THIS IS THE OLD ONE THAT'S IN THE APPROVED ORDINANCE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE NEW ONE. AND SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE OLD ONE YOU HAVE IN THE BACK, AS I SAID, GENERALLY YOU HAD THE SIN-FEAP GOING ON BACK HERE IN THE BACK. YOU HAD SOME CLUSTERS OF DIFFERENT USES, TOWNHOUSES THAT WERE A LOT SMALLER LOTS WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOU.

WHEN YOU ELECTRIC AT THE NEW ONE YOU SEE SIN-FAMILY BACK HERE IN THE BACK AGAIN AND YOU SEE UP HERE THE LOTS ARE BIGGER.

IT'S STILL SORT OF THE TOWNHOUSE OR SINGLE FAMILY OPTION USES IN HERE. YOU HAVE THE RECREATIONAL AREA IN HERE, , . AND AS I SAID, IAN THOUGH IT'S RECONFIGURED DIFFERENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FROM 2002 TO 2021 THE MARKET'S CHANGED AND THE TYPE OF USES ARE DIFFERENT AND PEOPLE MAYBE WANT BIGGER LOTS, IT'S STILL SIMILAR IN DESIGNATION AS TOO WHAT'S BEING DONE ON THE PROPERTY.

PART OF THE DIFFERENCE IS WHAT KAREN TALKED ABOUT ON THE -- ON

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THE -- UP IN THE FRONT HERE, YOU HAVE THE MUTT FAMILY BUILDING, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BUILDING THAT SHE REFERRED TO WHICH IS THERE'S A RESIDENCE ON TOP, AND THEN A UNIT OR TWO UNITS ON THE BOTTOM THAT ARE MEANT TO BE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT, BUT THE MODEL IS REALLY THE ONE YOU SEE THAT'S TYPICALLY EITHER DOWN IN THE CITY OR IN THE ST. AUGUST SISTINE BEACH AREA WHICH IS ALONG THE BOULEVARD OR SOME OF THE AREAS IN THE CITIER WHEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENTS ON TOP AND SOME TYPE OF SMALLER RESTRICTED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES ON THE BOTTOM. SO LIKE I SAID -- AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE SOUTHERN PORTION HERE, AS A ALREADY TALKEDABOUT.

THERE'S NOT MUCH CHANGE GOING ON WITH THAT.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE OLD MAP. THIS IS THE NEW MAP.

I WOULD ASSERT THAT, YES, IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT THE TYPICAL SORT OF USE EXCEPT TO THE STUFF THAT'S GOING ON THE FRONT IS SIMILAR AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON BEFORE THAT WAS APPROVED AND FOUND TO BE COMPAT I OBJECT FOR THE

FOUND TO BE COMPATIBLE FOR AREA. >> DO YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING

FORWARD? >> SURE.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD, SURE. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO HE HAS SHOWN YOU -- GO BACK ONE SLIDE.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SO THAT'S JUST TO KIND OF TAKE IT OFF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP.

AND IT JUST SHOWS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER UP.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE I'VE DIVIDED IT UP SO THAT WE CAN GO BY SECTION BY SECTION TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT CLEARER.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS ACTUALLY JUST THIS, WITH AN AERIAL OVERLAY, AND IT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE VEGETATION LOOKS LIKE. YOU CAN KIND OF TELL THAT DEREK'S KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THAT MIDDLE SECTION IS WHERE HE'S GOING TO BE PUTTING THE ROADWAY, AND THERE'S ALREADY -- IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISTURBED IN A LOT OF THOSE AREAS.

HE LOST A BUNCH OF TREES FROM HURRICANE MATTHEW IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

AND SO THIS IS THAT FRONT SECTION.

THAT FRONT SECTION SHOWS THOSE 13 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONVERT TO A TOWN HOPE TOWE THING.

IT'S NOT INTENDED FOR THE REST OF THE UNITS.

THERE IS A RECREATION AREA, PROMENADE THAT SHOWS ALONG THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE MULTI-FAMILY.

IT LOOKS LIKE A PARKING LOT BUT THAT'S SHOWING THE PARKING THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT, AND THEN THAT COMBINATION USE, SHOWS YOU THAT NEW ENTRANCE COMING IN AS WELL.

AND SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING ALONG THE ROADWAY JUST A DIFFERENT KIND OF LOOK. WE'VE GOT ALLEYS WHICH ARE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO USE.

THIS IS ALSO ONE THAT SHOWS THE 6-FOOT REQUEST FOR THE PERIMETER BUFFER REDUCTION ON THAT NORTH BOUNDARY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT NEW SALEM PARK THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

THERE IS QUITE A CHANGE IN ELEVATION THERE, SO THE APPLICANT IS PUTTING A RETAINING WALL ALONG THERE, AND INITIALLY THE ALLEYWAY WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT NARROWER, AND DUE TO SOME FIRE SERVICE COMPLAINTS, WE WIDENED IT UP TO THE 20 FEET, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE NEED FOR THAT PARTICULAR --

>> AND JUST TO JUMP IN THERE FOR A MINUTE, WE WANT TO POINT THIS OUT NOW AND KAREN JUST SAID BUT LET ME REITERATE.

ON THE NORTHERN SECTION WHERE THE SHARED ROADWAY WAS BEFORE APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS PUD, AND THIS AREA A HERE TO THE NORTH OUR SITE IS, YOU KNOW, ALL UNDEVELOPED AREA THAT THE COUNTY DECIDED TO PUT THEIR PARKING FURTHER NORTH.

SO THIS AREA THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR 6 INSTEAD OF 10 IS ONLY FOR THE SHORT AREA RIGHT HERE, AND REALLY THERE'S NOTHING OVER HERE. THIS IS THE UNDEVELOPED PART OF THE COUNTY PARK. AND THEN WE GO BACK TO 10 OVER HERE. SO WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THE SHORT AREA HERE, NUMBER ONE. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, I WANT TO POINT THIS ON IT NOW -- WEAR WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO IT LATER -- BUT THIS IS THE SOUTHERN, NORTH PART OF THIS PUD, AND YOU'LL SEE WE DO HAVE THE 10-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER HERE AND ACTUALLY IT GOES TO 20-FOOT ALONG ALL OF THIS AREA HERE, AND IT ONLY GOES DOWN TO THE ZERO FOOT THAT WE REFERRED TO DOWN HERE WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE RIOT LATER.

RIGHT-OF-WAY LAYER. I WANTED TO POINT ON IT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS EXTENT OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY ON EITHER SIDE. IN FACT, WE'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING IT DOWN HERE TO 20-FOOT.

>> SO THIS IS KIND OF THIS KIND OF RELATES TO THAT WESTERN

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SIDE, AND YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT PHASE 1 OR THE EASTERN SIDE, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

IT SHOWS PART OF THAT ONE PARK THEY'LL HAVE AN OVERLOOK TO IT -- THAT'LL HAVE AN OVERLOOK TO IT.

IT SHOWS YOU THAT OPTIONAL AREA ON THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

THAT WAS IN THERE ORIGINALLY, AND WE HAD CHANGED THE APPLICATION. IT WAS A 6-FOOT FENCE.

WE PUT IT AS AN 8-FOOT. AND DEREK RECENTLY HAD SOME CONCERNS WHETHER THAT WAS REALLY A GOOD IDEA IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS PROJECT, SO THERE IS AN OPTION LISTED IN THERE THAT IT COULD BE ADDED TO THE RECREATION FOR ADDITIONAL RECREATION AND AMENITIES, SOMETHING LIKE A CLUBHOUSE OR POOL OR A GYM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO WE'VE KIND OF ADD THAT TO GO BACK.

ALSO, AS JAMES POINTED OUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE WE DO HAVE A CONNECTION FOR FUTURE INTERCONNECTIVITY.

RIGHT NOW WE SHOW THAT AS A RIGHT-OF-WAY.

IT'S NOT A RIGHT-OF-WAY NECESSARILY.

IT'S A TEMPORARY DRIVEWAY FOR LOT 11.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN THIS PROJECT.

AND WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT AERIAL THAT WE GET TO, YOU'LL SEE THAT ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT, THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY OWNS PROPERTY AND HAS AN EASEMENT THAT GOES OUT, AND IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE MARSH AND I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES TO SHOW YOU, TOO, SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THAT, TO GET BACK TO HIS PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, HE MAY HAVE -- NEED TO COME THROUGH THIS. SO THAT'S A REASON FOR IT.

AND THAT'S KIND OF ALSO WHY WE WERE NOT FIGURING THAT A BUFFER IS NECESSARY BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT'S A ROADWAY.

MAYBE IF YOU WANT TO FLIP BACK THE TO AERIAL REAL QUICK.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HIS -- >> GO BACK?

>> NO, ON THE THING. SO IF YOU'LL JUST GO WHERE HIS

DRIVE IS, WHERE HIS DRIVE IS. >> OH, OKAY.

YEAH. >> SO THIS IS DEREK'S PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES. AND THAT'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT HE HAS THAT HE SHARES WITH ONE OTHER PARCEL.

SO THE PART THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR IT IS ADJACENT TO THAT. AND IT IS RIGHT ALONG THE EDGE OF THE MARSH, SO HE'S ACTUALLY REMOVED A LITTLE BIT FROM THE PUD TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE NEXT TO THAT HERE, BUT STILL THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL 20 FEET ALSO IS, BUT IN THIS CASE THERE IS A POSSIBILITY, IF THERE THIS EVER GETS WIPED OUT OR WHATEVER, THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT ACCESS AS A LEGAL ACCESS SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH.

THIS IS JUST A LITTLE RENDERING, A THILL THUMBNAIL SKETCH THAT DEREK HAD DONE ABOUT THAT COMBINATION BUILDING.

ANYTHING THAT HE HAS TO THED WITH H. WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, WITH THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, WITH ALL THE LANDSCAPING, IF WE WANTS TO PUT ANY DECORATIVE FENCING OR WALLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT ALL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE DRB, NORTH COASTAL DRB AS WELL. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU JUST A FEW PICTURES, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT TO THE SITE BUT THIS IS THE SITE LOOKING NORTH TO SOUTH.

AND THIS IS ALONG THE ROAD. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT.

SO THIS ALSO SHOWS THAT EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT WAS INSTALLED, SO YOU'LL GET A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE THAT -- WHERE THE SMALL COMMERCIAL BUILDING WOULD GO, THE SPLANS WOULD BE ENTRANCE WOULD BE MORE WHERE THE GATE WAS ON THE LAST ONE.

THIS IS JUST LOOKING UP. YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER MULTI-FAMILY TO THE NORTH PAST THE PARK.

THE ONLY THING THAT SHOWS YOU THE PARK IS THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THERE. THAT'S A CROSSWALK TO GET TO THE BEACH. THIS IS FROM HIS SITE.

I'M STANDING ON THE OTHER LOOKIE SOUTH, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE THERE'S SOME HOUSES BETWEEN HIS NORTH PARCEL HERE AND ARE THEN THE ENTRANCE TO HIS SOUTH PARCEL WHICH IS RIGHT DOWN HERE.

YOU CAN'T SEE, BUT IT SHOWS THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT

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AREA. THIS IS TAKEN FROM THAT EASEMENT ACCESS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, AND IT ALSO IS KIND OF TO GIVE YOU A FEELING FOR WHAT THE -- WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ALONG THERE AND WHAT THE HEIGHT IS OF THE BUILDING ON THE WATER SIDE.

AND THIS IS HIS EXISTING EASEMENT.

AS I'VE MENTIONED. AND YOU CAN SEE HE'S BULKHEADED AND HAD THE BULKHEAD ALONG SOME OF THAT TO JUST MAINTAIN THAT EASEMENT. THAT KIND OF GOES INTO IT, BUT ALSO, AS YOU'LL SEE, THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY IS PART OF HIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND THIS SLIDE WAS JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A GENERAL IDEA. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOES A VERY GOOD JOB, BUT TO SHOW THAT YOU A1A ITSELF IS ELEVATED QUITE A BIT FROM HIS SIDE IT. CONTINUES TO SLOPE DOWN PAST WHERE THE VEGETATION IS, SO AS YOU GO DOWN, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE HEIGHT OF ONE OF THE REASONS HE'S REQUESTING SOME ADDITIONAL HEIGHT FOR THAT MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING. THIS IS HIS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE SOUTH PARCEL, SO THAT'S THE ENTRANCE ROAD TO THAT. IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU HOW HE'S MANICURED THAT. THIS IS KIND OF FROM THAT OTHER SIDE LOOKING UP. THERE IS AN EXISTING HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE. HE'S INSTALLED FENCES AS WELL.

AND THERE IS THE ONE HOUSE THAT'S BEEN BUILT, AND SO THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND THINGS WILL BE THE SAME. SO I'M GOING THROUGH THAT.

DO YOU WANT TO -- >> OKAY.

SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO END. I IMHEER GOING LONG BUT THIS IS CLOSE TO THE END. THIS KIND OF GOES BACK OVER THE REQUEST YOU GUYS HAD. WE CAN TALK AGAIN AFTER, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY THE REQUEST. IN IT THERE ARE, AS WITH ANY PUD, THERE'S SOMETIMES SOME WAIVERS THAT ARE ASKED.

THESE FIRST THREE WERE APPROVED IN THE FIRST PUD, SO THEY WERE FOUND TO BE COMPATIBLE AND APPROPRIATE ORIGINALLY.

THE FIRST IS JUST IF DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS.

THE SECOND IS THE TEMPORARY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE THIRD WAS THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE.

SO AGAIN THOSE WERE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.

THE LAST THREE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GO IN LINE WITH THE REORGANIZATION OF THE PUD THAT WE'RE DOING ON THAT NORTH SECTION. THE FIRST ONE TALKS ABOUT THE FENCE HEIGHT FOR THAT ROTE AND RV AREA THAT'S NEXT TO THE RECREATING. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE BOAT AND RV BUT IF IT IS BOAT AND RV WE'RE ASKING FORT FENCE TO BE 8 INSTEAD OF 6 TO SHIELD THE RESIDENCES AROUND IT.

IF IT'S NOT WE OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T NEED THAT FENCE.

THE SECOND IS TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING HEIGHTS AND KAREN ALLUDED TO THAT EARLIER, A LOT OF IT'S BASED ON THE ELEVATION HOW IT SLOPES DOWN FROM A1A AND IT'S JUST FOR THE THAT FRONT BUILDING, THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE, AS THE BUFFERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THOSE HAD TO DO WITH THE LITTLE AREA DOWN ON THE SOUTH PORTION THAT WE NEED THE ZERO FOOT. THERE WOULD BE A ROAD BUT IT WOULD BE ADJACENT TOOT ROAD OR EASEMENT.

AND THE ONE ON THE NORTH IS THAT 6-FOOT IN THE AREA WHERE THE JOINT ROAD WAS INITIALLY WITH THE COUNTY, AND IT'S ADJACENT TO THE AREA THAT'S UNDEVELOPED ON THE COUNTY PARK PROPERTY.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK? >> GO AHEAD.

>> JUST A LITTLE BIT. I ADDED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN AND THE PARK WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.

DEREK HAS ON THIS PROPERTY FOR A LONG TIME -- HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR A LONG TIME AND HE DOES TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN KEEPING THE VEGETATION AND KEEPING THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE ENVIRONMENT. TRAFFIC, AND I FIGURED SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTION ABOUT THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS. USUALLY -- THAT'S USUALLY INCLUDED IN STAFF REPORT. THEY DO OUR STUDY FOR US BECAUSE IT'S A MINOR PROJECT. SO BASICALLY ALL I CAN TELL YOU, BASED ON THAT, WE DID MEET WITH D OPERATIVE T.

WE DID MEET -- DOT. WE DID MEET ABOUT THE ENTRANCE ORIGINALLY. ONE PER UNIT AS YOU DISCUSS UNDER TRAFFIC. SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, WE HAVE SUBMITTED FOR THAT. WE KNOW THE PROJECT HAS TO HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THIS SEEMS TO TAKE AN INORDINATELY LONG AMOUNT OF TIME. THEY'RE OVERWHELMED WERE APPLICATIONS, SO WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING BACK, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY PROVIDE FOR ANY PARTICIPATION THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY WITH THAT, AND I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT BACK.

>> JUST LASTLY, I WOULD SAY THAT ON TAIL OF WHAT KAREN SAID, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO MEET WHATEVER IS REQUIRED OBVIOUSLY ON THOSE TWO THINGS, AND IT SAYS THAT IN THE PUD SO WE'LL DO

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THAT. LASTLY I'LL JUST SAY THIS PUD AND A LOT OF IN THIS PUD WERE FOUND TO BE EXATD I OBJECT.

EARLIER THE AGENCY AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN FORMAL ORDINANCE AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF I THE SAME STUFF. SEE WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,Y AND POLICIES OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WITHIN THE PUD TEXT WE ARE AGREEING TO MEET ALL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE TEXT.

WITH THAT -- >> THAT'S THE LAST ONE.

JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT, WE ALSO DID PRESENT AT THE TOWN CENTER MAIN STREET MEETING, WE HAD A VERY NICE TURNOUT, AND THEY WERE, THE TOWN CENTER FOLKS MAIN STREET DON'T SUPPORT SOMETHING OR WHATEVER, BUT THE AUDIENCE ACTUALLY EVEN CAME UP AND A LOT OF THEM PARTICIPATED AFTERWARDS.

WE HAD A VERY POSITIVE ATTENDANCE.

WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME COPIES FROM SHERRY OF LETTERS IN SUPPORT, SO WE HAVE 16 OF THOSE, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE MAY BE ONES THAT WERE SENT INDEPENDENTLY TO YOU ALL.

SO -- BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CONCERNS -- INITIALLY THE NEXT DOOR SITE HAD SOME CONCERNS BUT THEN I KIND OF LOST WITH THEM, SO WE'RE KIND OF -- WITH THAT.

WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL

AND ANY QUESTIONS. >> AND WITH THAT, YES, MA'AM AND WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN AND AGENCY MEMBERS, OBVIOUSLY WE SAW SOME OF THE OTHER EMAILS YOU RECEIVED ASKING QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. OBVIOUSLY WE'D LIKE TO HEAR IF THERE'S ANY COMMUNITY COMMENT FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT OR TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT AND WHAT THAT IS, BUT I THINK IT HAD WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE TO TALK ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY -- OKAY.

MAYBE YOU COULD ASK, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND UP TALK ABOUT THAT IF THAT'S OKAY.

>> SURE. >> OR IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FIRST. I'M OR.

>> IS THERE, ON THE PART OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS, IS THERE IN YOU EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE?

MR. PIERRE. >> YES, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH. [INAUDIBLE]

>> MS. PERKINS. >> I ALSO SPOKE WITH MR. WHITEHOUSE THIS MORNING BRIEFLY TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT.

>> MR. PETER. >> I JUST DROVE BY THE PROPERTY.

>> AND I HAVE EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE.

I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH MR. WHITEHOUSE THIS MORNING ABOUT, MAINLY ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT. OKAY.

AT THIS POINT DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOW, YES. WE HAVE ONE.

SALLY O'HARA. >> MEHM SALLY I DON'T HUH 3025 KINGS ROAD, LONG TIME, 50-YEAR RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS OF A1A TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED. IT HAS NOW BEEN DESIGNATED AN ALL-AMERICAN ROAD, AND IT'S THE HIGHEST DESIGNATION IN SCENIC HIGHWAYS, AND THERE ARE CONCERNS IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE CORRIDOR FROM DUVAL COUNTY TO FLAGLER-VOLUSIA LINE ABOUT WIDING AND HAVING TURN LANES THE ON A1A CORRIDOR AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BEING INTERPOSED IN BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THERE ARE A LOT OF SCENARIOS THAT PEOPLE POSE, WHAT IF TRAFFIC, WHAT IF THIS, WHAT IF THAT. WELL, WHAT IF NOW IS WHAT I HEAR IS AVAILABLE FOR A COMMERCIAL VENTUE, AND THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE WOULD BE IN THE VILANO BEACH TOWN CENTER FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. I COMMEND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR HANGING IN THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND DOING MAJOR CHANGES, BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT IN THE OBJECTIVE A13.7 IN THE COMP PLAN, IT DOES DISCOURAGE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND IT NEEDS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE THROUGH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR WHATEVER LAND USE IS.

AND PROBE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN IN 20 YEARS PROGRESS, BUT JUST CONSIDER THAD ALL-AMERICAN ROAD AND WE WANT TO LIMIT THE IMPACT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, AND I UNDER THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE DRB, WHICH IS GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

MR. WHITEHOUSE AND KAREN, IF Y'ALL WOULD COME BACK UP.

BEFORE YOU GIVE ANY SORT OF REBUTTAL, I THINK WE'LL FIRST OF

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ALL OPEN THIS UP TO THE BOARD HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

WE GOT A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER THERE BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? MR. PETER.

>> WELL, KAREN MENTIONED IT OR JAMES DID, BUT I'D LIKE TO -- BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THEM -- UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIT OF A HOT BUTTON. MILDLY HOT.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE COGNIZANT, AS I SAID EARLIER, SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT CAME IN. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THOSE UNTIL LATE IN PROCESS SO OBVIOUSLY NO ONE OF THE -- WE DON'T GET -- WHEN WE SUBMIT A PUD, YOU DORN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE BUILDING. IT'S MORE THE USES BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING. WE TALK ABOUT A SITE PLAN BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE INSIDE OF BUILDINGS.

I KNOW I TALKED TO A FEW OF YOU ABOUT THIS BUT IF I CAN SWITCH OVER TO THE OVERHEAD. SO THIS IS IN THE APPLICANT'S MATERIALS AND KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SITE ITSELF, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BEONING,- IMPORTANT TO SHOW YOU GUYS BECAUSE THIS, EVEN THOUGH WE SHOWED YOU THE RENDERING, A DEPICTION OF THE BUILDING, THIS AIR DEPICTION OF WHAT HE'S THINKING ABOUT AND CONSIDERING. THAT'S WHY WE SAY LIMITED OR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES. THIS IS LIKE WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PICTURE. THERE WAS TWO DOORS ON THE BOTTOM ENTRY. HIS THOUGHT WAS TO HAVE MAYBE TWO SEPARATE UNITS, OFFICE/PROFESSIONAL IS ONE OF THE ACCEPTED SORT OF, THAT'S WHY I CALL IT MINOR COMESH USE.

NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING THERE.

YOU'LL SEE ON THE SITE PLAN WHERE THERE'S ONLY A FEW PARKING SPACES. THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMING AND GOING TO THE SITE.

OFFICE PROFESSIONAL. THAT WOULD BE HIS THOUGHT IS TO DO APPROXIMATELY 50% ON ONE SIDE AND ON THE OTHER SIDE 50% OF SOME SMALL MARKET THAT HAS SORT OF FRESH, FRESH PRODUCE AND SOME GOODS THAT PEOPLE EITHER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN THE SMALL AREA AROUND IT WOULD COME TO USE, AND AS YOU SAW, THERE WAS SOME PARKING BEHIND IT ON THE MDP AS WELL WHERE PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD PARK. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME ONTO A1A. ONE OF THE THINGS I MIGHT HAVE LIKE TO ANALOGIZE IT TO, I KNOW WHEN I WITH I WAS A KID IN THE VILANO AREA, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF -- WHEN WE USED TO COME DOWN IN THE SUMMERS, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF PLACES TO GO TO GET ANYTHING AND MR. USINA CREATED THAT NORTH BEACH CAMPGROUND WHERE HE PUT A LITTLE MARKET INSIDE THE MANY CA GROUND WHERE THE CAMPERS COULD COME AND GET TOOTH PASTE OR GOODIES OR FOOD OR SOME LITTLE THINGS, AND THAT'S I THINK SORT OF THICS VISION, SOMETHING SMALL AND NEIGHBORHOOD USE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF -- I WANTED TO PUT THAT UP.

>> JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO, DEREK FOR A WHILE WAS LIVING UP IN JACK'S BEACH AND THERE WAS A PLACE THERE THAT DID PACK ACTED MEALS AND YOU COULD ORDER THEM WEEK STICK THEM IN THE OVEN FOR 20 MINUTES OR WHATEVER INSPECTORS HE THOUGHT THAT'S SOMETHING -- THANKS ARE THERE PUBLIX -- MAJOR SHOPPING THERE AND THAT WAS PART OF THAT AS PART OF THE IDEAS, BUT I THINK WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO ADJUST SOME OF THE USES IN THAT BECAUSE THE INTENT REALLY ISN'T FOR THAT COMMERCIAL.

AND WHEN JAMES MENTIONED IT, THE PARKING AREA HAS BEEN CALCULATED ON ONE FOR 300. RETAIL SPACE IS 1 PER 250.

AND THE OTHER BUSINESS AND SERVICE IS 1 PER 500 SQUARE FEET. SO WE TOOK THE COMBINATION BETWEEN THOSE. THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY, VERY LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF THOSE THAT -- DID YOU WANT THIS?

>> NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS OUR COUNTY CODE AND COMP PLAN, DEFINE WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS, AND IN THE COMP PLAN IT SAYS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SHALL MEAN LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES INTENDED TO SERVE THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING NOOSHEDZ AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL USE AND ACTIVITIES IN THIS CATEGORY ARE THOSE WHICH SERVE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD OR SMALL GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOODS, AND LIKE I SAID, I WANTED TO TAKE THOSE TWO SECTIONS OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE LAND DOAD TO POINT OUT THAT'S WHY WE USED THAT LANGUAGE IN THE TEXT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT NEIGHBORLY COMMERCIAL IS, AND AS I SAID, AND AS KAREN REFERRED TO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEPICTION, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE MDP MAP BUT THIS MIGHT MAKE IT MUCH MORE CLEAR, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF PARKING. THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE SOME BIG COMMERCIAL USE ALONG A1A. THIS IS A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USE OF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S CONCERN WITH THAT, IT'S POSSIBLE WE COULD FIND MORE DEFINITIVE WAY TO DEFINE IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE INTENT.

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SO -- AND THEN I THINK KAREN'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE OTHER,

OTHER COMMENT BY MS. O'HARA. >> AND ALSO YOU SAID THIS IS ALLOWED WITHIN PUDS, AND THEY'LL IN PUDS IN RESIDENTIAL LAND USE, AND SALLY, I'VE KNOWN HER A LONG TIME, WE'RE FRIENDS AND EVERYTHING, SO IF IT WAS A BRAND NEW COMMERCIAL OUTSIDE AND A STAND-ALONE, YES, IT HAS TO HAVE A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, AND YOU ALL CERTAINLY SAW THAT WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH IT WITH THE BEACHCOMBER CAMPGROUND. BUT PUDS ARE LLOYD, AND ALLOD IN RESIDENTIAL C YOU'RE ALLOWED COMMERCIAL ELLEN J WITHIN PUD SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THERE.

IF YOU CAN KIND OF GO WAY BACK TO THE SITE PLAN MAYBE.

UP WITH THING WE DIDN'T MENTION WAS THE -- THAT FRONT SET.

JUST THAT FRONT SECTION. WE DO HAVE 17 FEET, WHICH IS RESERVED FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR WIDENING. WHEN WE WENT AND MET WITH D OPERATIVE T, SALLY'S ALSO WORKED REALLY HARD ON GETTING THE BICYCLE/PEDESTRIAN PATH THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THERE AND BASICALLY THE FOLKS AT DOT SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WIDENING THAT JOWDZ OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THERE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT TURN LANES LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES. YOU DO.

BUTTED THERE'S SUFFICIENT RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THAT BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FOUR-LANE FACILITY.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT 17 FEET TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THAT PATHWAY THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF THOSE OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN DOWN TO THE ONE IN FLAGLER COUNTY, YOU WOULD SEE IT'S AMAZING.

IT KIND OF WINDS THROUGH, KIND OF GOES, AND SO THAT WOULD END AND THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. SO THAT'S PART OF OUR THING.

YOU STILL HAVE ON TOP OF THE 17 FEET, YOU HAVE 30-FOOT SCENIC EDGE OR SCENIC BUFFER, AND THAT'S FROM THE NORTH COASTAL, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL HAS TO BE 50 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS WELL.

SO -- AND THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE SAME AREA, THE 17 AND THE 30. SO JUST TO CLARIFY WITH THAT, THAT THIS WILL BE FRIENDLY TO ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WANT

TO DO IN THAT AREA. >> ALL RIGHT.

MR. PIERRE. >> YES, MA'AM.

I DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE TRAFFIC.

I THINK YOU MENTIONED YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.

RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PATRONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, SO THAT IN ITSELF IS A PARKING AND A TRAFFIC ISSUE, AND I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE WHERE THE RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED

ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. >> AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND AGAIN, THE COUNTY DOES -- I REALLY EXPECTED TO SEE THE IN THE STAFF REPORT. USUALLY WE GET TO KIND OF SEE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES DOING THE EVALUATION.

BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THAT TYPE OF THING OF WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL THING THAT YOU GO TO 24 HOURS OR, YOU KNOW, OR A CONVENIENCE STORE WHERE THINGS ARE COMING BACK AND FORTH. SO THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE VERY

LIMITED. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO

THAT BUT GO AHEAD FIRST. >> I UNDER THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO DO IT. MY CONCERN ALL ALONG HAS BEEN IF WE KEEP HAVING ALL THESE SMALL PROJECTS AND TRAFFIC STUDIES AREN'T DONE, AND WE ARE DEPENDING ON THE COUNTY, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM, AND AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LOOK OUT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

>> MR. PIERRE, IS THERE A QUESTION IN THERE?

THAT WAS MY STATEMENT. >> IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR, JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT SHE WAS SAYING TO CONFIRM.

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT IN THE COUNTY NOW FOR COMMERCIAL THERE'S NO CONCURRENCY FOR COMMERCIAL. THIS IS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE MINOR PROJECT, AND FOR COMMERCIAL THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT, AND WE WANT TO, BUT THAT'S WHY LIKE I SAID, THE LIMITATION ON THE USE IS REALLY LIMITED BY THE -- WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BY WHAT'S DONE IN THIS BUILDING, AS I SHOWED YOU A DEPICTION OF WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO. IT'S A SMALL MARKET.

THAT'S WHY THE PARKING IS HERE. ANYBODY WHO COMBS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S PARKING BEHIND IT THAT THEY CAN PARK AT, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO COME ON A1A.

REALLY SOME OF WHAT KAREN'S TALK ABOUT ABOUT THE STUDY, IT'S CONSIDERED A MINOR PROJECT FOR THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES, AND SO THE CONCURRENCY IS FOR THE RESIDENCES, BUT AS A SAID, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE TWO SEPARATE ENTRANCES AS WELL. BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU KNOW MR. PIERRE. I THINK THAT IT'S A CONCERN.

BUT AS I SAID, I THINK PART OF IT IS THEY'VE BROKEN IT UP AND I DIDN'T IN A MANNER WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE COMING TO THEIR

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HOMES OR THEIR AREAS IN THE TOWNHOUSES HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO THIS NORTH ONE, ANYBODY WHO IS COMING INTO THIS SMALL MARKET. REALLY THE INTENT FOR THE PEOPLE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF ANYBODY COMES FROM THE OUTSIDE THERE'S SEVEN SPACES HERE, AND THAT KIND OF LIMITS IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER IT BETTER BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE

ANSWER TO IT. >> THANKS.

>> MR. MILLER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THROUGH THE CHAIR, I READ THE SECTION ON THE HEIGHT BEING WAVERED 42 FEET, AND IT SEEMS YOUR ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE THAT'S MEASURED OFF OF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS LOWER THAN A1A AND A1A IS 7 FEET HIGHER. THERE ANY PROPERTY OR ANY BUILDING IN THIS AREA THAT'S HIGHER THAN 35 FEET?

>> CERTAINLY. I BELIEVE WHEN YOU GET TO SARAH NADA BUT RHYME NOT SURE YOU WOULD SEE THAT, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I GAVE YOU THAT IS IF YOU LOOK AT A1A AND THE PICTURE THAT I HAD SHOWN TO THAT AREA -- WHERE'S MY WAIVER THINGS? -- THERE'S BASICALLY -- THAT'S THE THE ELEVATION CHANS FROM 12 FEET FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, 12 FEET ELEVATION FOR A1A, AND HIS BUILDING WILL START 7 FEET ELEVATION, SO THAT'S 5 FEET, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE HE GOT HIS -- CLOSE TO WHERE HE GOT HIS NUMBERS. HE DID PUT IT IN THE THING THAT THE APPLICANT IS FOR PARKING UNDERNEATH, AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THAT'S THE INTENT, IS TO HAVE THE PARKING UNDERNEATH. AND TWO STORIES OF LIVING SPACE ABOVE THAT WITH THE PITCHED ROOFS SO THAT HE CANNOT HAVE SOME FLAT-ROOFED TYPE THING AS WELL.

>> AND THEN LOOKING AT SECTION F OF YOUR WRITTEN DESCRIPTION, IT IS JUSTED SIZ NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT. I'M LOOKING AT OUR ACTUAL LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL USES. WOULD YOU CONSIDER ALL THE USES ALLOWED IN THERE BEING ALLOWED THROUGH THIS PUD?

>> NO. AND I THINK, AS JAIPS ALLUDED TO IT, WE'RE KIND OF WILLING TO COMPROMISE TO FIT IT MORE TO WHAT WE EXPLAINED TO YOU AND WHAT HE'S EXPLAINED THAT IT IS.

>> SO WHAT IS -- I AM, I'VE HEARD GENERALLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH GENERALLY WHAT THE CODE INTERSECTION AS TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, BUT --

>> IT COVERS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WOULDN'T FIT AND THE PARKING WOULDN'T BE FOR IT OR IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE, WHICH I AGREE WITH YOU, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE MORE CHAIRY OR A BANK OR

VETERINARY OFFICE. >> BUT THOSE ARE LISTED A

NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL. >> YES.

>> AND THEN YOUR SECTION F SAYS NEIGHBORLY COMMERCIAL IN IT.

>> YES. >> SO I'M ASKING TEN YEARS FROM NOW SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I WANT TO DO -- I'M READING THE USES. THESE ARE COMMERCIAL INDOOR RECREATION BE ARCHERY FACILITIES, ENTERTAINMENT, ARRAIGNMENT, HOSPITALITY, GENERAL BUSINESS SCULPTURE AS RETAIL GOOD STORES, FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, A BANK, WITH OR WITHOUT DRIVE-THROUGH, FUNERAL HOMES, MORTUARIES, NEIGHBORHOOD CONVENIENCE STORES WITHOUT GAS PUMPS, GROCERY STORES SPECIALTY FOOD STORES, PHARMACIES, FULL PARLOR SPAS, GYMS, HEALTH CARE, VOCATIONAL BUSINESS, TRADE SCOOMS. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE HERE BUT I'VE GOT A CODE SECTION THAT OPENS THIS UP TO A LOT.

>> AND I UNDERSTAND. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND AGAIN, AS JAMES SAID, WE KIND OF STARTED GETTING THAT JUST RECENTLY, SO WE'VE KIND COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS.

>> YOU SAID YOU STARTED GETTING THAT RECENTLY BUT YOU SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION OF A GENERAL DESCRIPTION THAT HAS A GENERAL TERM THAT IS DEFINED UNTIL THE CODE AS A A LOT OF THINGS.

>> U. THAT'S HOW I GENERALLY DO IT.

AND IF YOU'LL NOTE, AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEE IT, ON THE BEACHCOMBER CAMPGROUND, WE ACTUALLY DID THE SAME THING.

WE TOOK ONLY THE USES OUT OF THE -- OUT OF THAT CHT ZONING IN THAT PUD. SO THAT'S LIMITED TO THE THINGS THAT YOU SAW ON THE MAP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT HERE.

>> AND I THINK, IF I MAY, TO THE CHAIR, JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS WHEN WE SAW MORE OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONCERN WITH THE COMMERCIAL, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT IT'S A GENERAL TERM, BUT I THINK BASED ON I JUST SHOWED YOU OF WHAT HIS -- WHAT HE REALLY INTINTDZ TO BE AND I'VE KIND OF TRIED TO REDUCE THAT TO WRITING SO LET ME JUST GO OVER THAT FOR A SECOND. THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN POSSIBLY INSERT IN THE PUD LANGUAGE WHICH I THINK CLARIFIES IT, AND RESTRICTS IT TO WHAT ACTUALLY HE WANTS TO DO ANYWAY, AND THIS IS A SECTION THAT SAYS INSTEAD HAVING -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES BUT THEN ADD THIS AND SAY, THE APPROVED NEIGHBORHOOD OF USES SHALL BE RESTRICTED TO A MAXIMUM 2500 SQUARE FOOT NEIGHBORLY COMMERCIAL SPACE,AL CHB LIMITED BY THE CURRENTLY DEPICTED PARKING, WITH THE DISTRIBUTION

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OF APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THE MARKET AND ASSOCIATED -- WITH DISTRIBUTION OF APPROXIMATELY HALF FOR THE MARKET AND ASSOCIATED RELATED ACTS OF SUCH AS THE PACKAGED AND PREPARED FOODS, VEGETABLE, FOOD PRODUCTS, AND ASSOCIATED PRODUCTS FOR MEALS, LOCAL COFFEE, GALLERY AND POLICE SAY SPACE FOR LOCAL ARTISTS, AND APPROXIMATELY HALF FOR THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES WHICH MAY INCLUDE USES SUCH AS MAIL AND PACKAGE SERVICES, PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIO AND/OR PERSONAL SERVICES WHICH I THINK TAKES OUT ALL THOSE USES THAT MAY BE OBJECTIONABLE WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. AND IF THERE ARE OTHER ONES IN THEY'RE THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT COMFORTABLE, TELL ME AND WE CAN DO IT FURTHER, BUT I HOPE THAT KIND OF ADDRESSES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. MILLER, THROUGH THE CHAIR.

>> NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WHAT FALLS UNDER PERSONAL

SERVICES? >> SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, USES THAT ARE RELATED TO PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, SUCH AS MAYBE AN ACCOUNTANT.

>> WE HAVE SOMETIMES WHERE IT'S A GYM TRAIM TRAINER ON ARE ACQUIRE PRACT OR SOMETHING LIKE IS THE MEDICAL POARKS THAT OF.

I CAN'T SAY PERSONAL SERVICES. THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY LISTED A MEDICAL. YOU COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE A BARBERSHOP OR A BEAUTY SHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> OR ACCOUNTANT OR LAWYER. >> OR ACCOUNTANT OR LAWYER.

WELL, THOSE ARE PROFESSIONAL. >> IT JUST SEEMS THAT THIS WOULD BE BETTER IF THERE WAS A SPECIFIC LIST OF USES THAT WERE WRIFN WRITTEN SPECIFICALLY IN THE PUD.

THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN -- >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO DO. WE WOULD PUT THIS IN THE PUD AND

TAKE OUT ALL THE REST. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> AS YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY HARD TO DEFINE EVERY PARTICULAR USE, AND YOU GET SOMETIMES WITH THE COUNTY I'VE GOT ONE IN PONTE VEDRA THAT COMES BACK OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR A VERY SIMPLE THING ON WHETHER I HAVE MY YOGA PEOPLE COME HERE OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S NOT QUITE IN THERE, SO PERSONAL SERVICE COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SPACE TO DO

IT. >> SO WE WOULD ADD THAT IN

SECTION F. >> AND REMOVE --

>> AFTER THE SECTION THAT SAYS "PROVIDE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL AND OFFICE AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY," THEN ADD THIS AND TALK ABOUT THE SECOND FLOOR.

I THINK THAT WE WOULD OFFER TO ADD THAT IN IF THAT WOULD HELP DEFINE IT FURTHER FOR THE AGENCY FOR RECOMMENDATION FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> ANY OTHER AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE TWO, ONE OF STAFF.

MY QUESTION FOR Y'ALL IS THAT 6-FOOT BUFFER WITH THE RETAINING WALL ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHAT'S HIGHER, THE PARK OR THE

PROPERTY? >> WHICH IS HIGHER? YOURS IS HIGHER. [INAUDIBLE]

>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THE BULKHEADED ROAD, ARE YOU LOOKING UP AT THE PARK OR ARE YOU LOOKING DOWN AT THE PARK?

>> UP. >> YOU LOOK AT THE PARK.

THAT TERRAIN IS BASED ON SANDINGS UP AND DOWN THROUGHOUT

ALL OF THAT PROPERTY. >> SO THERE MAY BE CASES OF WHEREVER, BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY, WHERE THE PARKING LOT IS FOR THE PARK RIGHT NOW IS UP AT THAT MUCH HIGHER LEVEL.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING UP AT THE PARKING WHICH YOU CAN'T SEE FROM

HERE. >> YOU'D BE LOOKING -- WE'D BE LOOKING UP AT THE PARK IF I WAS LOOKING FROM OUR CURRENT

PROPERTY. >> THAT'S WHAT HE'S ASKING.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS ANSWERING THAT CORRECTLY. AND I PUT THIS AERIAL IN BECAUSE THIS IS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.

IT'S A LITTLE NEWER. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT PARKING LOT SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ENDED UP PUTTING IT, AND AGAIN THEY DIDN'T PUT IT ALONG THAT BOUNDARY, BUT THAT IS THEIR PROPERTY, THOSE TWO PIECES BELONG TO THEM.

THEY'RE STILL ZONED RG-2. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY, BUT THEY

ARE A PARK. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> DOES THAT HELP?

>> TO THE STAFF, THE TYPES OF USES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WOULD 2500 SQUARE FEET REQUIRE

ROUGHLY? >> WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE USE WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THAT USE BECAUSE OUR PARKING STANDARDS ARE BASED ON SPECIFICS USES, BUT IF IT'S COMMERCIAL, IT'S GOING TO BE ONE SPACE FOR 250 SQUARE FEET OR ONE SPACE PER

100 SQUARE FEET. >> AND Y'ALL HAVE SEVEN SPACES ON THERE? THANK YOU.

>> SO YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T DO THE WHOLE THING.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT.

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ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT, WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISCUSSION, I'D SUGGEST WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THEN DISCUSSION.

MS. PERKINS. >> I'LL OFFER A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT'S DELETED IN YOUR PUD SUBSECTION F WITH THE NEW ADDED PROPOSED LANGUAGE.

MY MOTION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2020-07 TOLD MAUT E RIVER FARM PUD BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDE IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT LANGUAGE

THAT WAS DELETED PRIOR. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

DR. MCCORMICK IS SECONDING. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU, DR. MCCORMICK. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR DISCUSSION, IF ANY.

[2. SUPMIN 2021-10 Rivers Mobile Home. Request for a Special Use Permit to allow a replacement mobile home in RS-3 (Residential, Single-Family) zoning subject to Section 2.03.08 of the Land Development Code.]

ANYBODY? NOBODY? OKAY. LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

SO THAT MOTION PASSES 5-1. AND SO THAT PROCEEDS ON WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2,

AND PRESENTER IS MR. BATTIEGER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JEFFREY BATTIEGER, AND I RESIDE AT 102 OAK LEAF IN PLAT KI, FLORIDA 20177. I REPRESENT MR. RIVERS IN THIS, AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO PUT A -- FOR A SUPERB USE PERMIT

TO PUT A MOBILE HOME IN RS-3. >> CAN YOU MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK

CLEARLY INTO THAT MICROPHONE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. SKO THIS IS IN THE WEST AUGUSTINE AREA OFF WEST KING STREET, ST. JOHNS COUNTY .

WRONG BUTTON. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

ANYWAY, DUVAL STREET AND ST. JOHN STREET AND JUST TO THE WEST OF -- GOT IT. SO HERE'S ST. JOHN AND DUVAL.

THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WAY, ONE WAY THIS WAY AND RIGHT OVER INTO THIS AREA. THIS LITTLE AREA -- THERE WE GO.

AT THIS TIME THERE'S A COUPLE SITE BUILT HOMES.

THERE'S MANY MOBILE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IT WILL FIT THE GENERAL USE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SITE PLAN. I WILL KINDLY REMIND DR. MCCORMICK THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE FOR ONE OF THESE, I DIDN'T HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH, AND I LOST HIS VOTE, SO I BROUGHT THAT, AND I'VE GOT ONE HERE, A HARD COPY THAT I BROUGHT JUST FOR YOU. BUT IT IS BRAND NEW.

2020 MOBILE HOME. IT WILL BE THOROUGHLY, COMPLETELY SKIRTED, TONGUE GEAR REMOVED, ALL IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS. AND I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT I THINK THERE WERE SIX VOTES AGAINST AND EIGHT FOR BUT I'LL ASK YOUR KIND

CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THIS. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? MR. PIERRE.

>> YES, SIR. IT SAYS HERE REPLACEMENT MOBILE HOME. IS THERE ONE CURRENTLY?

>> THERE WAS ONE THERE. HATES BEEN REMOVED.

IT WAS REMOVED SOME TIME THE IN PAST.

BUT, YES, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS MOBILE HOME THERE.

AND IF I MAY, I WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING, I WOULD ASK THAT THIS RUN CONCURRENT WITH ANY FUTURE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

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>> WE DO NOT. >> NO SPEAKER CARDS.

THEN WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. MOTION TO APPROVE SPEBL USE PERMIT MIN 20 UN-20 SUB TO TEN FIND NS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN

[3. ZVAR 2021-06 7324 Lynette Lane (Endangered Species Enclosures). Request for a Zoning Variance to Table. 6.01 of the Land Development Code to allow reduced setbacks to accommodate existing Endangered Species Enclosures as shown on Exhibit B - Site Plan.]

THE STAFF REPORT WITH TRANSFERABILITY.

>> MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. PETER. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

P. DR. MCCORMICK, FOR YOUR FILE.

>> MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3, I WILL CALL MR. PEARCE UP FOR PRESENTATION. DO ANY ANGST MEMBERS HAVE EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE? I DO, IN THAT I DROVE BY THE SE THIS MORNING ON THE WAY HERE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING STEVE BRAZZEL ON HIS APPLICATION FOR A ZONING VARIANCE FOR THE 25-FOOT FRONT YARD SETD-BACK.

HE OWNS -- SETBACK. HE OWNS 7324 LYNNETTE LANE.

IT'S AT THE END OF THE STREET AND HIM AND HIS FATHER FATHER TONE ADJACENT PROPERTY WHICH IS THE VERY LAST PARCEL ON THE STREET WHICH IS ADJACENT TO 40 ACRES OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE INLAND NAVIGATIONAL DISTRICT FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY.

HE CAME BY -- HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, STOPPED BY PLANNING AND ZONING TO DETERMINE IF WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR HIM TO BUILD CAGES AND/OR HABITATS FOR WILDLIFE ON THE PROPERTY AND WAS TOLD TO FOLLOW THE STATE OF FLORIDA GUIDELINES. HE HAS ALL THE STATE, FLAL AND LOCAL PERMITS TO HOUSE THOSE ENDANGERED AND WILDLIFE, THREATENED AND ENDANGERED SPECIES OF WILDLIFE ON THE PROPERTY, AND HE CONSTRUCTED THE CAGES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THREE PLUS YEARS, AND THE ANIMALS HAVE CREATED THEIR HABITAT THERE AND ARE LIVING THERE LIKE THEY NORMALLY WOULD IN THE WILD BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE'S BUILT THE HABITATS.

TO MOVE THESE CAGES AT THIS POINT WOULD ENDANGER THE HEALTH AND SAFETY ANIMALS AND COULD LEAD TO THEIR DEATH AND/OR ABORTION OF SOME OF THE PREGNANT ANIMALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, SO WE'RE REQUESTING FOR THE VARIANCE AT THIS POINT.

TO ALLOW THE CAGES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR OVER THREE YEARS TO RAIP, AND AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SPHWREEN A SO SHE CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT EXTREME EXOTICS AND THE PROCESS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH AT THE PROPERTY.

>> CHRISTINE, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, IS VIEWING THE YOUTUBE VIDEO, IS THAT EX PARTE COMMUNICATION?

>> I WOULD DISCLOSE THAT AND CAUTION IT IS SOMETHING YOU VIEWED AS PART OF GATHERING INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION.

>> ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WATCHED MOST OF THE

YOUTUBE VIDEO. >> I DID TOO.

>> THANK YOU. HI, I'M SABRINA.

THIS IS STEVEN BRAZZEL. I JUST THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WE DO AND WHAT THESE DISCLOSURES HOUSE. THIS IS JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE ANIMALS. WE DO HAVE SEVERAL THREATENED AND END DISAIRNLINGS SPECIES. GARY ON LEFT IS A MONK JACK DEER. HE'S NOT THREATENED ARE BUT HE IS A FAVORITE. IN THE MIL YOU'VE GOT OUR BLUE-THROATED OR BLUE-FRONTED MACAW.

THEY'RE OFTEN CONFUSED WITH THE BLUE AND GOLD MACAW BUT THEY'RE A MUCH SMALLER SPECIES. THEY BLUSH AROUND THE BEAK WHEN THEY GET EXCITED AND THEY ARE A CRITICALLY INDANGERED.

AND THE LOVELY LADY ON I HAD RIGHT IS SWEET PEA ONE OF OUR LOUDED LEOPARDS. THEY ARE THREATENED WITH EXTINCTION, LESS THAN 10,000 OF THOSE ANIMAL LEFT IN THE BIEMED THESE ARE SOME OF THE DISCLOSURES THAT WE ARE ASKING A VERAIANS FOR. THESE SETS OF ENCLOSURES ARE RIGHT ALONG THE FRONT LINE. THEY ARE ALL FITTED WITH THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL PONDS AND OWN INDIVIDUAL PLUMBING SYSTEMS, FAUCET SYSTEMS, AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY TOME HOME TO

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AN ENDANGERED SPECIES OF LIZARD AS WELL AS A NON-RELEASABLE RIVER OTTER. ON THE LEFT IS RIEWF US.

RUFUS IS AN NORTH AMERICAN RIVER OTTER.

HE WAS FOUND NEXT TO HIS MOTHER WHO WAS SADLY KILLED BY A CAR.

HE WAS TAKEN INTO A REHAB FACILITY HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND TREATED BY BREVARD ZOO.

BREVARD ZOO DETERMINED HE DOES HAVE PERMANENT DISABILITIES AND DEFORMITIES IN HIS FEET, AND SO WHEN I WAS CONTACTED BY THE REHAB FILT FACILITY THEY WERE SOMEWHAT IN A PANIC BECAUSE OTTERS ARE DIFFICULT TO HOUSE, ONE BECAUSE OF THE POND AND PLUMBING REQUIREMENTS, AND TWO BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AN EASY ANIMAL TO CARE FOR, SO THEY WERE KIND OF IN A PINCH TRYING TO FONDA A HOME, A FACILITY THAT WAS ADEQUATELY EQUIPPED TO TAKE HIM. 23 WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE END CLOSER USUALLY AND THOSE PONDS SET UP WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE HIM IN. I HAVE SINCE WORKED WITH HIM ON HIS REHABILITATION OF HIS SWIMMING.

HE'S A GREAT SWIMMER NOW BUT AGAIN WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE HABITATS.

ALSO IN THOSE ARE OUR RHINO IGUANAS.

THEY ARE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES OF LIZARD FROM THE CARIBBEAN.

WE HAVE HAD TWO SETS OF EGGS OUT OF THESE IGUANAS THAT HAVE BEEN VIABLE AND HAVE HATCHED SO WE HAVE PRO-REPRODUCED THIS ENDANGERED SPECIES TWICE SUCCESSFULLY NOW.

HOWEVER THESE ANIMALS WERE HOUSED TOGETHER FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE SUCCESSFULLY BREEDING, SORRY FOR US TO HAVE TO MOVE THESE ANIMALS, WE ARE GOING TO START THAT BREEDING CYCLE ALL OVER AGAIN, AND IT COULD PUSH US, LIKE I SAID, THREE, FOUR YEARS BACK ON PRODUCTION. ANOTHER SEVEN ENCLOSURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A VARIANCE, AND THESE ARE ONES THAT WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, THESE OUR CRITICALLY ENDANGERED ROUGH LEM% WEV RED AND ALSO BLACK AND WHITE ROUGH LEMURS.

THESE HAVE BOTH REPRODUCED AND 4 BHEABS AND RAISED THEIR YOUNG WITH THEM IN THOSE ENCLOSURES. GIVEN THAT THEY ARE PRIMATES, THEY ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO CHANGE AND THEY HAVE ATTITUDE CHANGES JUST LIKE HUMANS DO. OUR CONCERN WITH MOVING THEM IS THAT THEY CAN BECOME AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS EACHER AND AND AGGRESSIVE TOWARDNER KEEPERS AND MOVING THEM CAN DISRUPT THEIR FAMILY UNIT, SO MEMBERS OF THE FELONY THEY ARE BONDED WITH, THE STRESS CAN CAUSE THEM TO FIGHT AMONGST EACH OTHER WHICH COULD REALLY, REALLY PRESENT A PROBLEM FOR US IN HOUSING.

AND THEN LASTLY, THIS SET OF ENCLOSURES WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ASKING A VARIANCE FOR DUTY HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THESE ANIMALS. THESE HOUSE FOUR RED FOXES.

RED FOXES HAVE VERY THICK COATS. THEY CAN EASILY OVERHEAT IN THE FLORIDA SUN. THEY ARE BIOLOGICALLY DESIGNED TO TOLERATE COOLER TEMPERATURES. THIS SET OF ENCLOSURES WAS STRATEGICALLY PLACED WHERE WEAVE THE NOSE MORSE SHADE ON THE PROTD FOR THE LONGEST TIME OF DAY.

THIS IS THERE IS NOWHERE ELSE ON THE PROPERTY TO KEEP THEM SHADED AND SCHOOL LIKE THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION DOES WHICH AGAIN IS WHY WE HOUSED THEM THERE. THAT'S JUST AN IMAGE OF OUR ROUGH LEMURS PLAYING IN THEIR HABITAT.

IT GIVES AUN IDEA THE PROPERTY IS WELL MANICURED.

IT IS LANDSCAPED. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING TO INCREASE THE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND MAKE IT LOOK MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. AND THEN ACROSS THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DRIVEWAY THAT YOU SEE THERE, THIS IS OUR MAIN FEATURE WHEN YOU FIRST COME INTO THE PROPERTY THAT WE'VE ADDED, AND JUST AGAIN I HAVE GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE IT.

HERE YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A LETTER FROM OUR ATTENDING VETERINARY DOCTOR, SO THERE SHOULD BE A COPY OF THIS IN YOUR PACKETS FOR YOU TO REVIEW BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT THE PART WHERE SHE MENTIONS AS A EL WHO WE HAVE GREAT CONCERNS THAT THIS COULD GREATLY EFFECT THESE RARE AND ENDANGERED ANIMALS.

LIKE MANY WILD SPECIES CHANGES IN CLOISHES ENCLOSURE AND SPACE MAY LEAD TO CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR LIKE PACING AND DISPRUPTING BREEDING CYCLES. ALSO HAVING TO MOVE THESE ANIMALS IDENTITY THEIR CURRENT BEAUTIFUL HABITAT FOR REPOLD COULD RESULT IN COULD SUPPRESS IMMUNE RESPONSES AND LEAVE THEM SUSCEPTIBLE TO DISEASES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DEVASTATING NOT ONLY TO THE KEEPERS TBURT THE PRESERVATION OF THESE SPECIES. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING IDEA NOT LARGE OR SIGNIFICANT, AND FOR THESE REASON IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THE RISK-TO-BENEFIT RATIO AND WHETHER THESE SMALL CHANGES ARE WORTH PUTTING A ENDANGERED SPECIES A "LIKES." I BELIEVE THESE ANIMALS WOULD BENEFIT THE BEST FROM BEING IN THEIR HOMES THEY HAVE LEARNED TO BE THEIR OWN AND ARE COMFORT WITH, AND THERE'S HER INFORMATION IN YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO HER.

ON THE OTHER SIDE THIS IS AT ALL FROM ANOTHER STATE-LICENSED FACILITY HERE IN FLORIDA, AND AGAIN YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THIS FOR YOUR FULL REVIEW BUT I'D YOU JUST LIKE TO POINT OUTED WHERE SHE MENTIONS FOR MR. BRAZZEL TO MOVE THESE ANIMALS, CURRENT HABITATS WOULD BE LABOR INTENSIVE AND INTERRUPT THE CURRENT ANIMAL'S LIVING CONDITIONS.

EXOTIC ANIMALS ARE SUS ECHT I WILL BE TO STRESS WHEN MOVED

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WHICH CAN LEAD TO THEIR DEATH. THESE ANIMALS HAVE BEEN LIVING CKY AND THRIVING IN THEIR EXISTING ENCLOSURES SHOULD NOT FORCED TO LEAVE THEIR HOPES AND RISK ILLNESS ORE DEATH.

I. AND HER CONTACT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU.

I'M NOT GOING TO LIST IT HERIBLE.

BUT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TO SPEAK TO HER. THIS IS A PETITION WE STARTED FOR SOME OF OUR SUPPORTERS WHO WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE IN PERSON TO LET YOU KNOW THEY DO SUPPORT US AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE LEAVING THESE ENCLOSURES WHERE THEY ARE.

AT THE TIME THIS POWERPOINT WAS ALMOST 600.

AT THIS TIME THAT WE SPEAK IT'S OVER 700 SUGGESTS.

AND JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM FOLKS WHO KNOW WHAT WE DO HAVE BEEN TO OUR LOCATION. THESE REMARKABLE AND ENDANGERS ANIMALS MOVING 'CANES BECAUSE THEY'RE SLIGHTLY CLOSE TO A FENCELINE IS NOT IN THE BENEFIT THESE FANLS.

I'D HATE IS ON TEE THEM GO THROUGH ANY UNNEEDED STRESS AND HAVE TO ADJUST TO THE MOOCHT OF THEIR CURRENT MORE THAN STUFF ENCLOSURES. IN MY OPINION THE ANIMALS' BEST INTERESTS NEEDS TO BE KEPT IN MIND.

HERE ON THE SLATE OF GENTLEMAN WHO HAS BEEN ON OUR LOCATION SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES AND HAVE WATCHED US GROVER THE YEARS.

HE SAYS, I KNOW THESE ANIMALS ARE COMPARED FOR BETTER THAN ANY OTHER INSTITUTION IN THE STATE. THEIR CARRIAGES EXTREMELY WELL BUILT AND DESIGNED TO NOT ONLY CONTAIN THESE ANIMALS BUT ALSO PROVIDE THEM WITH AN ENRICHED LIFE.

FORCING THEMG TO RELOCATE THOSE ANIMALS UNNECESSARILY WILL NOT BENEFIT THE NAWNLS, WILL NOT BENEFIT THE FOUNDATION, IT WILL ALSO NOT IMPROVE THE SAFETY OR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THE SPOWNGS PROVIDING THE WILDLIFE FOUNDATION IS PAN WITH AN EXEMPTION.

THE WILDLIFE FOUNDATION STHUD BE ALLOWED TO USE THEIR FUNDS TO PROPERLY CARE FOR THESE ANIMALS AND GIVE THEM THE BEST LIFE AND CARE THAT THEY CAN, NOT SPEND UNNECESSARILY TO MOVE HABITATS.

ON THE OTHER SIDE EXTREME EXOTICS WILDLIFE FOUNDATION HAS FOLD ALL LAWS AND REGULATIONS. THEY'VE BEEN INSPECTED OVER AND OVER AND HAVE PASSED. PLEASE LET THE HABITATS STAY AS THEY ARE. AND BELOW THAT, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD ABLE TO KEEP THE ANIMAL WHERE AND HOW THEY ARE, AND A FEW MORE ORGANIZATION FOLLOWS ALL FEDERAL WRIEWBLES SOME OF THESE ANIMALS ARE ON THE THREATENED SPECIES LIST, SHOULD NOT BE MOVED. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE ANIMAL. LEAVE THE ANIMALS WHERE THEY ARE. DID NOT MOVE THE ANIMALS.

IT'S THEIR HOME. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO AND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. AND IN CLOSING, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A LETTER FROM OUR VETERINARY DOCTOR, YOU YOU'VE GOT A LETTER FROM A FELLOW STATE LICENSED FACILITY PETITION WITH OVER 700 PEOPLE ASKING THAT THESE ANIMALS IN THEIR ENCLOSURES BE ALLOWED TO RAIP WHERE THEY ARE.

THE RISK AND IS LONG-TERM FEKSZ ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS OF A CONCERN TO OFF US. WE HOPE THE COUNTY WILL SUPPORT US BUT MORE IMPORTANT SUPPORT THE NANCE AND THE RESCUE ALLEYWAY THAT WE CARRY ON THE AT OUR FACILITY.

>> GREG, DID YOU SAY YOU GROVE E. DROVE BY TODAY?

>> I DID. >> I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THE FRONT OF PROPERTY, THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS 8-FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE. WE DID EVERY SECURITY MEASURE TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ALWAYS SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC, SAFE FOR ANIMALS.

WE JUST RECENTLY HAD ELECTRIC FENCE INSTALLED INSIDE OF THAT TO KEEP PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY JUPPING OVER THE FENCE.

NO BROKE-OUTS. WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY ANIMAL LOOSE OR. THE FENCE LINES HAS SLOTS SLATS PUT IN IT AS WELL AS A SHADE CLOTH DESIGNED BEHIND IT SEE IT'S NOT DIDN'T PRETTY MUCH 9 GO% OF VISIBILITY IS BLOCKED OF PEOPLE FROM THE ANIMALS. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A DISRUPTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A BAMBOO WALL THAT GOES DOWN THE WHOLE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

EVERYTHING IS EXTREMELY MANICURED, WELL LANDSCAPED.

WE'VE HAD PROBABLY ABOUT A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IN LANDSCAPING DAINDZ FROM DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE NIEWNTS COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS HELPED MAKE THIS LACE PLACE ASAL NATURAL AS POSSIBLE FOR.

THE THERE'S HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN PONDS AND LAGOONS THAT WERE DONATED BY DIFFERENT POOL COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ANIMALS HAD EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEEDED.

PUBLIX, EVERY DAY PUBLIC PUBLIX'S AROUND THE COMMUNITY DETAIN FOOD AND FRUITS TO HELP FEED THE ANIMALS AND PROVIDE THEM WITH THE BEST STUFF SO WE'RE NOT SANCTION DOLLARS ON SUCH A LOW BUDGET FOR THINGS. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAVE DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH FOR TO US TRY TO HELP THE ANIMAL AND DOUGH EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SUPPORT THIS PLACE AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING HAS ITS BASS BEST LIFE BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PLACES DO HAVE VERY HARD FUNDING ISSUES AND THIS COMMUNITY HAS COME TEG AS A WHOLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS WAS MY FAULT FOR NOT POKING MORE INTO THE QUESTIONS WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN TO THE COUNTY ASKING ABOUT PUTTING THESE CAGES IN AND ASK THEM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN THE RIGHT ZONING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN BUILD THIS NON-PROFIT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND AND WHES TOWED, YES, YOU CAN PUT THE CAGES ON PROPERTY. I'M NO DESIGNER I DIDN'T GO THROUGH CODES. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE I WAS SPECIFIC MEASUREMENT. I HAVE HAD MY PERMITS 20 YEARS.

I'VE ALWAYS GONE OFF F WCHTC AND WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENT IS AND

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ANY STATE REGULATIONS AND FOLLOWED ALL THE CAGES AND EVERYTHING IS BUILT ABOVE CODE, BIGGER THAN, BETTER THAN ANY OF THE STATE REGULATIONS REQUIRE. WE ARE UNDER MULTIPLE INSPECTIONS A YEAR, SURPRISE VISITS AT ANY TIME.

WE AT FWC YESTERDAY THEY WERE SPENGTDING THINGS.

WE REALLY STRIA TO STAY IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING AND GIVE THESE ANIMALS THE BEST LIVES THAT THEY CAN BE.

I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR US OUT AND ALL THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANTS? MR. PETER.

>> YEAH, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY IS

YOURS. >> YES, SIR.

>> BUT IS IT UNDER THE BUSINESS, THE 501 CRCH 3 NON-PROFIT OR IS

IT A PERSONAL. >>

>> SO IT IS BASICALLY HOW IT WORKS IS WE -- MY FATHER OWNS ONE PROPERTY, I OWN THE OTHER PROPERTY, AND THE NON-PROFIT IS REGISTERED UNDER THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S MANAGED BY A BOARD OF DIRECTOR. AND THE NON-PROFIT BASICALLY -- I'M NOT SURE HOW -- NOBODY TECHNICALLY OWNS A NON-PROFIT SO THE NON-PROFIT PER SE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, LEASES THE PROPERTY FROM US TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE ON THE FACILITY WOULD BE THE EASIEST TERM I COULD PUT IT UNDER.

>> OKAY. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? MS. PERKINS.

>> IF THIS WAS NO TO BE APPROVE% AND YOU HAD TO MOVE THE CAGES,

WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR THAT? >> SO WE WILL HAVE TO START BUILDING OVER. IT IS ABOUT $50,000 IN ENCLOSURES THAT ARE HOUSED ON THE FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY, SO IF WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM, IT WILL BE PROBABLY ANYWHERE FROM A THREE TO SIX MONTH WAIT. A LOT OF STUFF IS VERY HARD TO GET RIGHT NOW. IT IS -- WE BUILT A BIGOTTER LAGOON IN THE BACK IT. TOOK A YEAR JUST WAITING TO THE

TUYERE TO COME TO THAT. >> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE

ANIMALS? >> SO THE NANCE -- FISH AND GAME WILL STEP IN AT THIS POINT. THEY'LL MAKE ALL THE ANIMALS STAY IN THEIR HABITATSAL UNTIL EGGS COMPLOOF NEW HABITATS AND THENAL THERE WILL BE A TRANSITION A PERIOD WHICH THEY JUST TAKE IT A 30-DAY CEREBRAL TO SEE HOW THINGS ADJUST TO A NEW HABITAT. THEY'LL HAVE TO COME OUT ANDETIC EVERYTHING AHEAD OF TIME SO IT WOULD BE AT LEAST A SIX MONTH TO A YEAR PROCESS MOVING THE ANIMALS AND ALL THAT, WHICH IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO GO UNFORTUNATELY WE'LL HAVE TO GET WITH YOU GUYS A TIMELINE.

FISH AND GAME AND EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT THAT'S INVOLVED WITH

THESE ANIMALS. >> I JUST LIKE TO REITERATE IF THAT IS THE ROUTE WE'RE FORCED TO GO, THEN WE DO HAVE THE END DAWRNLGD LEMURS AND SEVERAL, SEVER BREEDING PAIRS THAT WILL BE DISRUPTED THAT I CAN GUARANTEE THAT WILL NOT JUST SETTLE BACK IN. IT WILL BE --

>> WE'LL HAVE TO GET ON THE LEMURS UP FRONT.

THIS IS THEIR BREEDING TAKEN. THIS IS WHEN THEY GET PREGNANT.

SHE'S PROBABLY CARRYING RIGHT NOW.

IT WILL HAVE TO BE A TRANSITIONAL TO MAKE SURE SHE DOESN'T HAVE A MISS MISCARRIAGE AND LOSE HER YOUNG.

>> MR. PIERRE. >> LARGE IS YOUR PROPERTY?

>> IF PLOT IS AT 3 ACRES. >>

[INAUDIBLE] >> SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

>> THE VARIANCE. >> HE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S THE SETBACK. HOW FAR --

>> SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 25 FEET, SO SOME OF THESE CHANGES CAGES ARE PROBE WITHIN THERE ARE OR 4 FEET OF WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. 3 OR 4 FEET OF WHERE THEY SHOULD

BE. >> WITHIN 3 OR 4 FEET OF WHERE THEY SHOULD BE OR 3 TO 4 FEET OFF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY?

>> 3 TO 4 FEET OF THAT MARK WHERE THEY SHOULD BE BACK.

WE'RE NOT TALKING A LOT ON SOME OF THESE.

THE THE FRENT ROW CASING THAT THOUSANDS RIVER OTTER IS OBVIOUS CLOSEST TO THE 25-FOOT MARK. THE OTHER ONES 7, 8 FEET BACK,

AND I THINK ONE'S 11. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, IF I MAY, MR. PIERRE, IN REALITY THEY HAVE SEVERAL HABITATS ON THE PROPERTY. THEY MEET THE STETSET BASK ON ALL OF THE ONES ON THE SIDE AND THE REAR BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE TO THE MAIN ON HIS. HOWEVER, TON ONES THAT THEY'RE HERE TO ASK RELIEF FROM ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT ON THE FRONTED PROPERTY LINE AND THEY ARE ABOUT 2 TO 3 FEET JUST

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> SO IT'S 25.

>> THEY WOULD BE REQUESTING PAY 22-FOOT VARIANCE.

>> A 22-FOOT VETERINARIAN, NOT A 3-FOOT VARIANCE.

>> CORRECT. >> SO THEY ARE BUILT RIGHT --

>> YES, SIR. ONLY THE HABITATS ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. THE THE OTHER MEET THE SETBACKS

THAT ARE REQUIRED. >> AND I DEPOT WANT TO POINT OUT I'VE BEEN OUT THERE, I'VE HAD CODE FORM WALK THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, GET TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE, WALK THROUGH ALL THE CAGES, INSPECT EVERYTHING. I'M NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING.

EVERYONE IS WELCOME ON THIS FACILITIY TO SEE.

THIS WAS BUILT TO HOUSE THESE ANIMALS AND CAKE TALK CARE OF AND WE HAVE TAKEN CHILDREN THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAD TERMINAL

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ILLNESSES TO MEET SOME OF THESE CHILDREN BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR LAST WISHES. THIS WHOLE THING WAS MEANT TO BE

HERE FOR EVERYBODY. >> AND I WOULD ADD THAT THE LARGEST CONCERN WITH THAT PARTICULAR SET OF CAGES IS THAT IS THE ROAD THAT IS ALL GOT ITS OWN PLUMBING, A INDIVIDUAL, ONE TO TWO INDIVIDUAL PONDS IN EACH ENCLOSURE WITH EACH WITH THEIR OWN POND, EACH WITH THEIR OWN PLUMBING, EACH WITH THEIR OWN FAUCET AND DRAIN AND ALL OF THAT.

SO IT IS NOT ON OUR ENDANGERED SPECIES HABITAT BUT IT'S ALSO

OUR MOST DIFFICULT TO RECREATE. >> IT WAS DISPIEND ON WHAT FISH AND GAPE AND STATE AGENCIES CALL US AND SAY LIKE THE BREVARD ZOO AND RUFUS THE OTTER, WE HAD THESE THINGS DESIGNED AROUND THAT TO SAY, YES, WE CAN TAKE THIS IN TODAY'S MRNG SITUATION AND HELP YOU GUYS. FIND A PERMANENT PLACEMENT.

WE CAN BE HERE. >> ANY OTHERRIEST? I HAVE QUESTIONS. I HOPE MY WIFE IS NOT WATCHING THIS BECAUSE SHE'S QUITE THE ANIMAL LOVER.

WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM OVER TYPE MOVING THE CAGES TO BE IN COMPLIANCE IF WE GRANTED A VARIANCE FOR A SET PERIOD OF

TIME AS ANIMALS PASSED AWAY? >> I GUESS IN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION -- I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT EARLIER TODAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DESIGNED THIS PLOT, WE DESIGNED IT WITH A SPECIFIC LAY OTT IN MIND OF OFWHERE EVERYTHING IS HOUSE RIGHT NOW AND FUTURE THING HAVE TO GO. IT WOULD BE TRYING TO RECREATE THAT DESIGN TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE ANIMALS WILL FIT IN.

LIKE SABRINA POINT OUT A LOT OF ANIMALS WERE BUILT IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA BECAUSE THE FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY IS VERY COVERED WITH THE FLORIDA OAKS AND THE NATURAL TREES THAT REALLY CREATE A GOOD OOCHT COVER FOR THINGS. THE REST OUR PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF FOLIAGE. ONCE WE GOT HIT BY HURRICANE MATTHEW ALL THE PINE TREES FELL DOWN AND BROKE IN PLACES, AND THE STUFF THAT'S PROTECTED I PUT UP FRONT AND I HAD TO STRUCTURALLY DESIGN A BACK FOR THING THAT ASKED NEIGHBORS TO REMOVE PINE TREES THAT COULD FALL, CRACK THE FENCE LINE OR DO DAMAGE TO SOME OF THIS, SO IT WOULD BE A RECONFIGURING RACE AND DESIGN AND BRINGING IN TREES TO KIND OF MAKE IT NATURAL TO

THEM. >> SO IF I COULD PARAPHRASE WHAT YOU SAID, IT MIGHT LIMIT WHAT KIND OF ANIMALS YOU COULD SAVE.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

MR. MIR. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR ANDS TO PARAPHRASE, ARE YOU SAYING THIS THAT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AND THESE PARTICULAR ANIMAL IN THIS PARTICULAR HABITAT IS CHOANGS NOT AT RANDOM. IT WAS CHOSEN FOR THAT SPECIFIC PART OF THE PROPERTY DUTY TO TREES ON THAT PROPERTY, THE

UTILITIES IN THAT PROPERTY? >> ABSOLUTE, YEAH, ALL THE OLD SCHOOL OAKS ARE UP TO PRESENT. SOME OF THESE TREES PROBE 100 YEARS ODE. IT GIVES REY GOOD SHADED COVERAGE, AND THINGS THAT CAN HAD AN MORE YOU OF U. SUN AND STUFF LIKE THAT WE MOVED TO OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY THAT ARE BETTER DESIGNED TO MATCH THEIR HABITAT.

>> AND THE REVERSE, OTHER AREAS OF THE PROPERTY COULD NOT ACCOMMODATED THESE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN THAT HABITAT.

>> NOTE AS THEY ARE NOW. >> NIRCH ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PLIC? SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 3:05 AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND

HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING.

WE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH RELATIVE TO CASE LAW AND STUFF LIKE THAT RELATED TO ZONING VARIANCES AND THE LIKE, AND WE CAME UP WITH THE FACT THAT THE FISH AND WILDLIFE, UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THE LEGISLATURE

>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S RECONVENE AND IT WILL BE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

WHO IS OUR SPEAKER CARDS?

>> KEVIN BRAZZEL IS UP. THOMAS GEORGE.

>> SIR, WOULD YOU PUSH THE BUTTON TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON.

>> STATE YOUR NAIMSDZ FOR THE RECORD.

THE. >> MY NAME IS TOPP GEORGE A 558 DEEFERRED ROAD. I RESIDE THERE FOR 50 YEARS.

I WANT TO THANK ALL Y'ALL FOR DONATING YOUR PERSONAL TIME TO BE HERE TODAY, AND YOUR PERSON TIME.

>> ARE YOU TELLING US WE DON'T GET PAID?

>> I THOUGHT Y'ALL WAS -- >> WE ARE, SIR.

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I'M JUST JOKING. >> OKAY.

YOU GOT ME. I OPPOSE THE VARIANCE FOR THE BUFFER, AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT 15 OF THE NEIGHBORS.

WHEN I SAY NEIGHBORS, I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. PLUS.

ALL THE NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY'RE SCARED OF THEM BECAUSE THEY GOT ALL KIND OF MONEY AND THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. NOW, I CAN'T MAKE IT WHERE Y'ALL CAN UNDERSTAND IT UNLESS YOU LIVED WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL THE NOISE THEY MAKE, ALL THE SMELL THEY MAKE.

THEY BURN THEIR BEDDING WITH ANIMAL FECES IN IT ON THE GROUND WHICH SEEPS INTO THE GROUND. I HAD A FISH KILL TWO MONTHS AGO BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T USE SILK TENTS WHEN THEY DID THEIR CLEARING. Y'ALL GOT PICTURES OF THE AERIALS? THEY'RE NOT UP TO DATE.

HIS AS-BUILT IS NOT UP TO DATE. AND ACCORDING TO -- GOT TO MAKE SURE I GET THIS IN BECAUSE I WASN'T EXPECTING THIS.

HOW DID THE ANIMALS GET THERE AND HOW MANY OF THEM DIED WHEN THEY MADE THAT TRANSFER? AND MOVED THEM? OKAY. AND WITH THE TIER 3 LICENSE, IF YOU READ THE WHOA THING THROUGH THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, IT SAYS ON THAT LICENSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 30-OOT BUFFER.

SIMPLE AS THAT. UNLESS YOU CAN'T -- YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTY TO HAVE THE BUFFER, WHICH THEY DO HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTY TO HAVE THE BUFFER.

HE IS HE HAS REMOVED ALL THE BUFFER ON THAT PROPERTY YEARS AGO. AND NOW HE'S HAVING FOR A VARIANCE? YOU CAN'T RIDE A BICYCLE DOWN THAT ROAD. YOU CAN'T WALK DOWN THAT ROAD WITHOUT MAKING NOISE. YOU CAN'T RIDE BIKES, GARBAGE TRUCKS, TRASH TRUCK, RECYCLE TRUCK.

THE ANIMALS GO CRAZY. EVERY TIME.

DELIVERIES, THE MAYMAN, ANYBODY THAT GOES DOWN THE END OF THAT ROAD. THE MAILMAN, THEY GO OFF.

NOW, THAT WOULD BE DEBT INTIMIDATAL TO THE ANIMALS MORE THAN MOVING THEM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL THERE USED TO BE PLENTY OF SHADE ON THAT PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT ONE TO IT. AND IF THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT SHADE, WHY DON'T THEY PUT THE ANIMALS AWAY FROM THE FRONT -- THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY. >> MR. MILLER, DO YOU HAVE A

QUESTION? >> SIR.

SIR. SORRY, I KNOW.

THROUGH THE CHAIR, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, THE ONLY ISSUE WE'RE HERE FOR IS THE VARIANCE FOR THE ENCLOSURES, NOT THE ANIMALS, NOT THE NUISANCES, NOT ANY OF THE NOISES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT EVIDENTLY SOMEBODY DIDN'T READ WHAT I GAVE Y'ALL ABOUT THE LICENSE REQUIRING A 30-FOOT BUFFER.

>> AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT BEFORE US TODAY.

THANK YOU. >> TERRY QUEEN.

>> HI. MY NAME IS TERRY MCQUEEN I LIVE AT 7313 LYNETTE LANE, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

THESE ANIMALS ARE A BLESSING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I SIGNED THE PAPER FOR THIS GUY RIGHT HERE BECAUSE I'M SCARED TO DEATH OF HIM. HE DON'T EVAN HAVE ENOUGH

RESPECT -- >> SIR, SIR.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS. THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU

SUPPORT THIS ACTION OR NOT. >> I SUPPORT THIS SANCTUARY, SIR. IT'S GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF THEY NEED MORE LAND, THEY CAN BRING THE ANIMALS OVER TO OUR HOUSE. WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THEM.

WHY TEAR SOMETHING UP THAT'S GOOD? WE'VE GOT ENOUGH BAD IN THIS WORD.

WORLD >> I HAVE CANCER.

I GO AROUND THOSE ANIMALS. IT HELPS ME A LOT.

IT HELPS PEOPLE LIKE ME. YOU DON'T TAKE SOMETHING GOOD AND THROW IT AWAY. SUPPORT IT.

BE GRATEFUL WE HAVE THESE KIND OF PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE GOT TO SAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

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>> THANK YOU. >> SAMANTHA QUEEN.

>> MY NAME IS SAMANTHA QUEEN. I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 7313 LYNETTE LANE AND I SUPPORT THEIR SANCTUARY WITH ALL OF MY HEART.

AS AN IN AN PROFESS MYSELF, THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A DIRTY CAGE OVER THERE.

THEY KEEP EVERYTHING UP. I'VE NEVER SEEN AN IN AN WITHOUT WATER. I PERSONALLY RIDE MY BIKE DOWN THERE, I WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME.

THESE ANIMALS ARE A LITERAL BLESSING FOR OUR AREA.

WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE THESE GUYS AS THE NEIGHBORS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT DISAGREES BECAUSE THEY ARE JEALOUS, THEY'VE SAID THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW AS AN ANIMAL PROFESS MYSELF, THESE GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THESE ANIMALS. THEY ARE HEALTHY.

THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL. THEY ARE ALL WELL-FED.

THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS TO WATER 24/7.

I AM PROUD TO HAVE THESE GUYS AS MY NEIGHBORS.

I SUPPORT THEM WITH ALL OF MY HEART AND SOUL, AND THAT'S ALL

THE TIME I NEED. >> THANK YOU.

>> THOMAS FIELD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M TOM FIELD. I LIVE AT 599 DEERFIELD ROAD.

IT'S ABOUT 400 YARDS AS THE CROW FLIES FROM THE FACILITY.

AND I SUPPORT Y'ALL GRANTING THEM THE VARIANCE.

IT'S A WONDERFUL FACILITY. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, YOU NEED TO GO TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. >> THANK YOU, MR. FIELDS.

>> TRAVIS FROST. >> HOW Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME IS FRAFS FROST YOU LIVE THE 560 DEERFIELD ROAD AND I'M ALL ABOUT THE FACILITY. I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THEM.

I CAN TAKE A PEBBLE AND GO LIKE THAT AND HIT ALL THEIR PROPERTY.

I LOVE THEIR ANIMAL. MY FOUR-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER LOVES THOSE NANCE. THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE WHOLE ISSUE IS ONE PERSON THAT DOESN'T LIKE IT, EVERY TIME THE ANIMALS SOUND OFF WHEN THEY'RE PLAYING HE DECIDES TO SO THAT THE A HIGH POWER RIFLE BECAUSE HE DON'T LIKE IT.

THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ANIMALS ARE AWESOME. I TAKE MY KID AROUND THERE AND SHE LOOKS AND LISTENS FOR THEM ALL THE TIME, LOVES LICH TO THEM PLAY, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY ONE PERSON'S GOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS WHOLE SITUATION.

MAYBE HE NEEDS TO FIND HIM A NEW HOBBY.

>> SIR, IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT PERSON.

>> I APPRECIATE IT AND I SUPPORT THEM FULLY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> JERRY BURDEN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LISTENING TO US TODAY.

MY NAME IS JERRY BURDEN. I LIVE AT 541 DEERFIELD ROAD.

I AM LESS THAN 200 YARDS FROM THIS FACILITY.

I SUPPORT IT. THE ANIMALS AND THE STUFF THAT THEY DO FOR THEM, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND JUST BECAUSE A SMALL VARIANCE OR SOMETHING, MAYBE IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE, MAYBE -- I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT WOULD BE A CRYING SHAME TO HAVE TO PUT THESE ANIMALS THROUGH WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH JUST TO BE MOVED, AND THERE'S NO REASON FOR IT. I HEAR THEM ALL THE TIME.

I ENJOY THEM. WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

I HOPE Y'ALL CAN SETTLE THIS TODAY, MAKE IT GO AWAY.

I WISH I HAD MORE TIME AND I COULD TELL Y'ALL EXACTLY HOW I FEEL, BUT Y'ALL CAN SEE IN IT MY FACE.

YOU CAN SEE IT BY ME BEING HERE. I DO NOT LIKE THIS.

I DON'T LIKE THIS AT ALL. Y'ALL HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. I ASK IF YOU WOULD PLEASE DWOIT IN JESUS' NAME. THANK YOU, SIR.

AND MA'AM. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> COLIN JENNIFIK. >> COULD YOU PUSH THAT BUTTON

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THERE? IT'S ON.

>> MY NAME IS COAL ONLY I DLIFT 146 FLGHT BEHRINGER LANE.

TO ME IT MAKES NO SENSE TO JEANDERS THE WELL-BEING OF ANIMALS JUST TO MOVE THEIR HABITATS A COUPLE FEET.

UP THE, THERE'S NO LOOK LIKE BEHIND IT.

-- NO LOGIC BEHIND IT. THEY DO THINGS SO FUTURE GENERATIONS GET TO SEE THINGS THAT ARE ENDANGERED, AND IF THERE WEREN'T PEOPLE LIKE THEM, SOME OF US WOULD NEVER SEE THE THINGS THAT ARE AROUND RIGHT NO. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH.

>> IT THANK YOU, MR. BEHRINGER. >> JAIME HAJJIN.

>> HI. MY NAME IS JAIME HUTCHINS I LIVE AT 7336 LYNETTE LANE WHICH IS DIRECTLY RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. I FULLY SUPPORT THE ENCLOSURES BEING THERE. THE STRESS THAT IT WOULD PUT ON THESE ANIMALS TO MOVE THEM IS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.

THESE ARE ENDANGERED ANIMALS. THERE'S NO REARN.

IT'S A FEW REASON. IT'S A FEW FEET.

THE IMPACT THAT THIS HAS HAD ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT POSITIVE, AND I MYSELF HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE EXPERIENCES WITH THIS FACILITY THROUGH THESE PEOPLE, WITH THESE ANIMALS THAT I WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO HAVE OTHERWISE.

SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. HUTCHINS.

>> JORDAN HOLT. >> MOTION FOR A TALLER MICROPHONE. I JUST WAP TO SAY MY NAME IS GOARP I LIVE AT 417 PORTA ROSA. I WAS BORN IN RAISED IN NEW YORK WEST ALBANY 45 MINUTES, COW COUNTRY.

AMISH. COW CRI IS WHERE YOU GREW YOU.

MY UNCLE IS A 40-ACRE THOROUGHBRED FARM THAT WE USED TO RAISE AND STORE THE HORSES FOR SARATOGA HORSES.

ANIMAL ARE GIVEN TO US FROM GOD IN MY OPINION FOR A REASON, TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES. FARM LIEU OF IS DIFFERENT THAN ZOO LIFE. I MET STEVE PROBABLY FOUR YEARS AGO. MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER MET HUM BY HAPPEN END CHANCE AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT HE'S UNCLE STEVE TO MY DAUGHTER BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS.

I DO BELIEVE GOOD PEOPLE COME FROM ANIMAL CARE.

I DO BELIEVE THESE ANIMALS HE HAS IN THIS FACILITY IF THOSE CAGES GIVE MY DAUGHTER WHO IS NINE YEARS OLD WHO HAS BROUGHT HER FRIENDSOVER THERE AFTER PICKING UP POOP AND DOING THEIR CHORES AND DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, THEY CAN EXPERIENCE THIS.

EXPERIENCE ANIMALS THAT THEY WOULD NEVER GET A CHANCE TO SEE, TALK TOO, INTERACT. THEY ALL NAME THEM.

IT'S USUALLY CUPCAKE OR SUGAR BEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE JOY THAT IT TBRIS TO MY DAUGHTER AND HER FRIENDS, EXPERIENCES THAT SHE WOULD NEVER HAVE ELSEWHERE IS WHAT MR. BRAZIL HAS ALLOTTED TO HER. GREAT JOY IN MY LIFE.

I GREW UP ON A FARM SO I KNOW WHAT ANIMALS ARE AND WITH THAT THEY NEED. THEIR LOVE AND COMPASSION.

AND THEY LOOK TO US. THEY NEED HELP.

THEY DON'T SPEAK OUR LANGUAGE BUT WE CAN FEEL THEIR EMOTION.

THEIR EMOTION SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT HUMANS DO THIS THEM IS BEYOND THEIR REALM BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE FOUR LEGS, TWO LEGS OR NO LEGS BUT THEY HAVE A HEART AND BREATHE AND FEEL, AND ANYBODY THAT LOCKS DIFFERENT, GO TO THEIR FACILITY AND LOOK AT THEM IN THEIR LIVES.

I KNOW THEY'RE ANIMALS. WE'RE HUMANS.

BUT I ALSO KNOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE THEM, PRESERVE THEM AND KEEP THEM GOING SO MY DAUGHTER TEASE DAUGHTER WHEN SHE GETS MARRIED, WHICH I'M NOT READY FOR, BUT SHE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECAUSE STEVE AND HIS FACILITY WILL BE AROUND AND PEOPLE WITH HIS HEART AND HIS DEDICATION AND HIS MONEY GOES TO PRESS RACE OF THESE ANIMALS, SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO OTHER THAN JUST TO VOLUNTEER.

SO FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH FROM MY OPINION, FROM MY YEARS AS ONE HUMAN TO WHO THE, THE LOAF OF NABLES AND THE PRECIOUS OF WHAT HE'S DONE FOR NIECE ANIMALS IN IN CAGES HAVE BUILT 24ER EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING, THAT HAVE GIVEN THEM A BETTER LIFE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AS WELL AS TURN GENERATIONS NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> LANCE DAMRON. I THINK LANCE LEFT.

>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, THE APPLICANT CAN NOW -- SORRY, SIR.

COME ON UP. COULD YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKER

CARD, SIR? >> YES, I DID.

MY NAME IS KEVIN BRAZIL. AND I LIVE AT 7324 LYNETTE LANE.

>> YES. >> WHEN WE STARTED BUILDING THIS, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY IT DOESN'T

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COME WITH A HANDBOOK THAT SAYS WHERE YOU CAN PUT THINGS, AND WE REALLY TRIED TO MAKE IT AS COMFORTABLE FOR THE ANIMALS AS POSSIBLE. IF I HAD MY WAY, I'D HAVE NO ANIMALS IN CAGES. BUT WE TRY TO BUILD CAGES BIG.

WE TRY TO GIVE THEM PLENTY OF STUFF TO GIVE THEM ACTIVITIES TO DO. AND WE TRY TO BUILD THEM IN PLACES WHERE WE KNOW THEY WILL BE COMFORTABLE.

THEY GET THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF WIND, THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF SHADE, AND WE TRY TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, AND I KNOW THESE CAGES UNFORTUNATELY ARE TOO CLOSE TO FENCE, BUT TO MOVE THESE ANIMALS NOW WOULD BE A SIN.

IT JUST WOULD BE REALLY TOUGH ON THEM, AND I HOPE THAT YOU SEE IT IN YOUR HEART TO JUST GIVE US A VARIANCE.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, MR. BRAZIL.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT.

IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND OFFER ANY REBUTTAL TO ANY OF THE SPEAKERS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.

>> I'LL KEEP IT SWEET AND STHOART.

I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER MR. JORDAN'S QUESTION.

HE WAS CONCERNED WITH HIS 35-FOOT RULE.

THERE IS A 35-FOOT RULE FOR TWO ANIMALS IN QUESTION ON THE PROPERTY WHICH FALL WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BIG ANIMALS.

IT'S DESIGNED AROUND PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIONS, TIGERS, BEARS, THE BIG CATS. THAT'S WHAT THAT RULE IS, AND THAT RULE ALSO REQUIRES IT TO BE A 5-ACRE PROPERTY, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THAT LICENSE AND WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ANIMALS. SO THE ANIMALS THAT WE DO HAVE IN QUESTION ARE THE CLOUDED LEOPARDS THAT AREY DAIDGED THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT TO STATE SPECIFICATIONS AND IT'S FOR ALLIGATORS AND CAYMANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT THOSE ARE PLACED 80, 90 FEET OF THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY IS WHERE THEY'RE KEPT.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REBUTTAL TO THAT.

YES, THE ANIMALS ON OCCASION DO GET FIRED UP JUST AS WHEN YOU DRIVE BY SOMEBODY'S HOUSE A DOG BARKS AT YOU, O. A CAT MEOWS.

THAT'S WHAT NANCE DO WHEN THEY GET STARTLED OR EXPAIRPD WE HAVE HAD THE POLICE OUT FOR THAT, AND THE POLICE SAID THE ONLY TIME THESE ANIMALS GET SCARED IS WHEN WE'RE OPENING THEIR CAGE WITH A BUNCH OF COP CARS. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

WE ARE IN THEIR TERRITORY. THEY DON'T SCREAM ALL DAY OR ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

IF THEY'RE THREATENED THEY BARK JUST LIKE A DOG WOULD.

OTHER THAN THAT I APPRECIATE WHY YOU YOU GUYS' TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO EVERYBODY ELSE AND WHAT THEY HAD

TO SAY HERE. >> DO YOU HAVE A DOG?

>> YEAH. >> I HEARD IT BARKING EARLIER.

[LAUGHTER] >> ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2021-06 SUBJECT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> IS THERE A SECOND BY MR. SCOTT? DR. MCCORMICK. ZACH ALREADY SECONDED.

ALL RIGHT. >> I'LL DOUBLE SECOND.

>> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT IN DRIVING BY TODAY, IT IS A VERY NICELY LANDSCAPED AND MAINTAINED

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PROPERTY FROM THE STREET. AND ALTHOUGH I WASN'T THERE VERY LONG 1 THE ONLY THING I DID HEAR WAS A DOG BASHING.

DR. MCCORMICK, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE THAT MOTION PASSES. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4.

>> MR. MATOVINA, HIS IF I MAY, YOU ITEMS 4, 5 AND 6 ARE RELATED. THEY ARE TWO ITEMS THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, A REZONING -- SORRY -- TWO WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE PZA, THE ZONING VARIANCE, AND THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THOSE ITEMS, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE CONDITIONED UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST.

>> OKAY. SO THIS IS 4, 5 AND 6, AND THEY'RE ALL SUBJECT TO EX PARTE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE ON ITEMS 4, 5 AND 6? WE HAVE NONE.

MS. ROMEIN AND MR. SIMMONS, ARE Y'ALL HERE?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS RUSSELL SIMMONS I LIVE AT 6170 A1A SOUTH SPHAWGHT HEZEKIAH ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

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THIS IS THIS IS A HEARING SO YOU'VE GOT THE REZONING FOR THE CROATIA RATIO GOING FROM 50 TO 70 PERCENT AND THE SPECIAL USES FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE. THE ROMEIN FAMILY OF FIVE MOVED ST. AUGUSTINE 2001. THEY HAD A FAMILY VISION OF BUILDING A MINI WAREHOUSES SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM OPEN RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE, AND IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT THAT WAS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR FOR THE BUSINESS CASE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY THAT HAD 70 PEST THE COUNTY SUGGESTED THAT OUR PURPOSES COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY GOING COMMERCIAL GENERAL INSTEAD OF COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE OR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, SO WE CHANGED OUR REZONING FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO THE STIPULATION WITH THE FLORIDA VARIANCE.

THIS IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT.

IT'S ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN -- HERE WE GO.

207, 312 AND 206 DOWN HERE. SO IT'S KIND OF HALFWAY BETWEEN THEM JUST NORTH WATSON ROAD. THERE'S THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU HAVE THE BELLA TERRA. EXISTING DIRT ROAD RIGHT NOW THAT IS ACCESS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.

THIS IS WHERE THEY HAVE THE LAKE AND WATER, WHERE THE COUNTY'S BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR CHANGING THE WATER LEVELS IN THE AREA. THAT'S AN OVERHEAD MAP SHOWING THAT IT'S AN UNDEVELOPED OPEN RESIDENTIAL LAND RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS THE WETLANDS MAP. BECAUSE OF THE COOLDOWN THAT'S BEING DONE IN THIS LAKE AND SURROUNDING AREA, THE RED PORTION THAT YOU SEE HERE HAS ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED AND MITIGATED AND IS NO LONGER CONSIDERED WETLANDS.

THESE TWO SMALL SECTIONS ARE AND THEY HAVE A VARIANCE OF -- EXCUSE ME -- A 3 AND 6 INCHES ARE THE TWO VALUES THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE WETLANDS THAT WE WOULD BE MEETING AND MITIGATE.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH RIGHT NOW.

OUR INITIAL REQUEST WAS GOING TO HAVE A LARGER BUILDING OVER HERE. WITH THE PRICES STILL GOING UP, THAT DIDN'T SEEM AFFORDABLE ANYMORE, IS ON WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE LAND AND START GETTING SOME REVENUES INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING PROPERTY TAXES. IS ON WE REVISED OUR AMBITIONS TO MAKE IT RV AND BOAT STORAGE WITH A RETENTION UPON HERE BECAUSE OF THE 9 OR SO INCH OF WATER RUNOFF YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN ON THE PROPERTY. HERE WE HAVE A 1400 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT WOULD BE ADA BATHROOMS AND 1,000 SQUARE FEET OF MINI STORAGE. THIS IS US-1.

WE TALKED TO FDOT AND DID AGREE THAT THEY WOULD APPROVE THIS ACCESS AND EGRESS. THERE'S BELLA TERRA.

BACK OVER HERE AND POND AND LAKE THAT'S SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS PHOTOGRAPH. THIS IS OUR MINUTE OF THE MEETING FROM THE FDOT WHERE THEY HAVE AGREED TO GIVE US THAT ACCESS. AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> OKAY.

IS THERE -- IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?

MS. PERKINS. >> YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE VARIANCE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE GOING FROM I GUESS 60% TO 70% RATIO.

>> YEAH. FOR THOSE THAT MAY NO KNOW THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS PRETTY MUCH HOW MUCH ROOF SPACE YOU CAN HAVE EVEN THOUGHIZED CALLED FLOOR, SO BY GOING FROM 50 TO 70 THAT GIVES US A 25% INCREASE IN MANY STORAGES FACILITIES WE CAN HAVE.

MY INTOONGS IS TO DO A CUBE-SIZE SHAPED BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE AIR CONDITIONING. SO IT WOULD ALLOW US MORE REVENUE. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CASH FLOWS. I'M CULTURAL WORKING NOW, I INTEND TO BE WORKING FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

WHEN WE DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, OUR INTENT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IS TO HAVE A LARGER MINI STORAGE FACILITY.

THE BOAT AND RV IS A TEMPORARY THING.

SO THE REASON FOR GETTING THE VARIANCE IS SO WE CAN FULLY DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, THEN WE MIGHT BE DRIVEN TO REEVALUATE DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.

WE MIGHT HAVE TO SELL IT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,

MA'AM? >> MR. CHAIR, MAY I --

>> MR. MILLER. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, REALLY

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QUICK, WHY THE REZONING INTO ONE VETERINARIAN AND ONE SPECIAL USE PERMIT? WHY NOT JUST DO A PUD?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PUD IS IT'S FOR RAY A LARGER DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS JUST MORE OF A SMALL MOM AND POP WHERE I'M THE OWNER ALONG WITH LAURIE WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE SO WE'RE JUST WANTING TO BUILD A MINI STORAGE FILT,

BOAT AND RVS. >> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> I DO THINK MS. BISHOP MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER ANSWER TO MY

QUESTION. >> MS. BISHOP.

>> NO, SIR. IF I MAY SPEAK, THOUGH, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOUR QUESTION. A PUD COULD BE DONE ON THIS PROPERTY. THERE'S NOT A SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR A PUD OTHER THAN YOU HAVE TO MEET THE UNDERLYING ZONING WHATEVER THAT ZONING MAY BE, SO IF IT WAS ZONE OR IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST AN ACRE TO BE REZONED TO A PUD.

I BELIEVE THE SITUATION IN THIS CASE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE VARIANCE ITSELF, IS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLY ALLOWS A 70% FLOOR AREA RAUSCH I DON'T, AND THE -- RATIO AND THE ZONING IS MORE LIMITED, SO HE NEEDS THE VARIANCE TO THE ZONING TO MEET WHAT THE COMP PLAN ACTUALLY ALLOWS BECAUSE THIS IS A MIXED USE DISTRICT AND THEN ALSO WITH RESPECT TO WHY IT WAS CONVERTED FROM A CW OSH WHY STAFF SUGGESTED IT BE DONE AS A CG RATHER THAN A CI OR A WCW 1 THAT'S THAT INTENSITY OF USES, AND IF THE APPLICANT WAS ONLY PROPOSING TO DO A MINI WAREHOUSE FACILITY. AND SOME RV BOAT STORAGE AND MAYBE SOME OF THOSE LESS INTENSE USES THAT IS MORE COMPASS I WILL BE WITH THAT ELLEN J AREA FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL STANDPOINT TWHABS WHY STAFF MADE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE

APPLICANT DID ADHERE TO THEM. >> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR YOU, MS. BISHOP.

YOU SAID THEY NEED THE 70%. DO THEY WANT THE 70% IN THE COMP PLAN ALLOWS IT BUT THE ZONING DOES NOT OR DO THEY HAVE TO GO

TO 70%? >> WELL, THE ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW IT, SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE.

THAT WAS WHY THEY NEEDED THE VARIANCE REQUEST.

AND THEY DO NEED MORE THAN THE 50%.

THAT'S THAT'S IN CG. >> ?

WHY IN. >> TO GET THE USE THEY'RE PROPOSING. THEY JUST NEED ADDITIONAL FLOOR

AREA. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHICH MAY BE MORE DIRECTED TO STAFF THAN THE APPLICANT.

SO SECTION 2.03.01. C SAYS YO A DETAILED SITE PLAN DRAWN TO SCALE SHALL SHOW THE LOCATION AND DIMENSIONS OF ALL EXISTING AND IS PROPOSED STRUCTURES AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AND SETBACKS OF SAME, SIGNS AND PROVISIONS FOR OFF-STREET PARKING IS REQUIRED. THE PLAN SHALL BECOME A CONDITION UPON WHICH THE PERMIT IS PERMITTED, AND ANY CHANGE OR ADDITION SHALL CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF THE SPECIAL USE APPROVAL UNLESS SUCH CHANGE IS SUBMITTED TO AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY." SO THAT SOUNDS TO ME LOOK THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY IS SUPPOSED TO SIGN OFF ON A PLAN DRAWN TO SKAUL SHOWING THE LOCATIONS, DIMENSIONS EXISTING IN PROPOSED STRUCTURES, OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, SETBACKS, SIGNS AND PROVISIONS FOR OFF-STREET PARK.

AM I READING THAT RIGHT? >> YES, SIR.

BHUF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS WELL AS A VARIANCE, YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT IS INCLUDED WITH IT. THIS APPLICANT LETTERS DID PROVIDE A SITE PLAN. IT IS IN THERE.

HOWEVER, I DOUGH WANT TO JUST CAUTION YOU A LITTLE BIT.

WE DO NOT HAVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY YET AND SO THERE HASN'T BEEN ENGINEERING THAT'S BEEN DONE.

THERE COULD BE SOME CHANGES THAT MAY OCCUR WHEN THEY START DOING THEIR ENGINEERING AND WHEN THEY START DOING THEIR DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO ON THE SITE.

SO THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES THAT ACTUALLY FALL INTO THAT REALM WHEN THEY GET THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

THE AGENCY COULD CONSIDER THAT THAT SITE PLAN AT THAT POINT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THIS AGENCY FOR REVIEW OR YOU COULD LET STAFF DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND KNOW THAT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO MEET THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH RESPECT TO THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN

REVIEW. >> BUT, MS. BISHOP, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE SITE PLAN DOESN'T HAVE ANY DIMENSIONS?

>> IT DOES NOT. I WOULD AGREE, YES, SIR.

>> IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY SIGNS. >> IT DOES NOT SHOW SIGNAGE.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, YES, SIR.

>> EXCUSE ME. >> LET ME FINISH, SIR.

>> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS USE CANNOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET OF A RESIDENCAL USE.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> I'LL HAVE TO CHECK.

>> I THINK THAT'S IN YOUR REPORT HERE SOMEWHERE.

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NO PORTION OF A PERSONAL PROPERTY MINI WAREHOUSE FACILITY SHALL BE ALLOWED AS A SPECIAL USE WITHIN 500 FEET OF RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY OR RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS OF PLANNED

DEVELOPMENTS. >> YES, SIR.

>> 2.03. R.6J. IS OR IS NOT A DESCRECIALGHT

DISTRICT? >> OR IS NOT A DESCRECT DISTRICT UNLESS THERE'S RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ON IT.

>> AND THE OR DISTRICT NEAR THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE STRUCTURES ON

IT, AS FAR AS WE KNOW. >> AS FAR AS I KNOW, YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING

ELSE, SIR? >> YES, SIR.

THE SKETCH IS TO SCALE. I YOU DREW IT ON COMPEL BUT THESE ARE THE 5-FOOT INCREMENTS SHOWING THE SETBACKS, THESE ARE HASH MARKS ARE THE DIMENSIONS. BASIC NORTH-SOUTH COMPASS

SETTINGS. >> ONE OF THE EARLIER VERSIONS DID HAVE THE DIMENSIONS WRITTEN ON IT, BUT I -- I'M NOT SEEING THEM THERE NOW. BUT IT IS SCALED.

AND THAT'S WHAT THESE NUMBERS, THE LITTLE HASH MARKS, IF YOU ZOOMED IN ENOUGH YOU'D BE AUB TO SEE THAT THOSE ARE NUMBERS STARTING FROM 0, 5, 10, 15, 20, THROUGH THE DIMENSIONS OF THE

PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SNRICT DO WE APPL? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, SO I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT ANYONE COULD MAKE A MOTION ON ITEMS 5 OR 6 TO BEGIN WITH. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THEY BE A SEPARATE MOTION FOR EACH. ACTUALLY, THANK YOU WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THE SPECIAL USE AND THE THE VARIANCE FIRST.

>> I WOULD RECOMMEND THE REZONING FIRST.

IF THAT DOES NOT PASS, THEN THERE WILL BE NO NEED TO VOTE OR

5 OR 6. >> OKAY.

SORRY. THANK YOU, MS. VICE CHAIR.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE ON THE REZONING?

DR. MCCORMICK. >> .

>> THE MOTION TO APPROVE -- NO. LET ME GO THROUGH THIS.

MOWING TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF R ECHTZ 2020-22 BELLA TERRA STORAGE, A REQUEST TO REZONE 1.G BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT

AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK FOR DENIAL. IS THERE A SECOND? ANYONE? ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2020-22 BELLA TERRA STORAGE, A REQUEST TO REZONE 1.G BASED TON POWER FINDINGS OF

FACT. >> A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. PERKINS. A SECOND BY MR. SCOTT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> THERE IS NO MR. SCOTT.

>> I'M SORRY. MR. MILLER.

I DID IT TWICE, DIDN'T I? MR. MILLER.

ZACH. MR. PETER.

>> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD ASK WHETHER OR NOT BEE SHOULD WE SHOULD ADD TO THE MOTION THE DOCUMENTED CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS THAT STAFF ASKED TO REVIEW JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THAT FORMALLY AS

PART OF THE PROCESS. >> WHEN YOU SAY DOCUMENTED CONSTRUCTIONS DRAWINGS WEEK I'M NOT SURE.

>> THIS IS NOT A CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT DRAWING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, AND ACCORDING TO MS. BISHOP, WE ARE -- IN THE BOOK WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT TODAY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IF I MAY, I'M SORRY, THAT WOULD BE WITH THE SPECIAL USE.

>> BUT THERE IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE MOTION.

>> I'LL WITHDRAW THE QUESTION. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE NOW VOTING ON WHETHER THIS ZONING CATEGORY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE LOCATION. WE'RE NO NECESSARILY VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT A MINI BHAIRS AND RV STORAGE IS APPROPRIATE OR WHETHER A LARGER FAR IS APPROPRIATE.

>> AND THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE REZONING.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. SO THAT MOTION PASSES 6-1.

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NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5, WHICH IS THE FLOOR AREA RATIO ITEM. AND SO WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT. MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING SARAHIANS 2021-TWOIR BELLA TERRA STORAGE, REQUEST FOR A ZONING RAINS, TO ALLOW FOR A 70% FLOOR AIR RATIO AS ALLOWED BY THE MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT IN LIEU OF THE 50% BASED UPON FIVE FINDINGS FACT

AND EIGHT CONDITIONS. >> A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND?

SECOND BY MR. -- >> MR. CHAIR -- SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT THIS MOTION WOULD BE HELD IN ABEYANCE IF APPROVED DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE RESOAK APPLICATION.

THAT WOULD GO FOR BOTH THE ZONING VARIANCE AND THE SPECIAL

USE. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT A SECOND BY MR. MILLE MR. MILLER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES 4-2.

AND NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6 WHICH IS THE REQUEST FORT SPECIAL USE. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE REQUEST FOR THE SPECIAL USE ITEM NUMBER 6? AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE HELD IN ABEYANCE PENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

MS. PINKY. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE MER MITT MAJ 2021-THIRTEEN BELLA TERRA STORAGE A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR TAU MINI WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE FILT UNDER SECTION OF THE LANDS DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ALLOWING R VCHT BOAT STORAGE FACILITY UNDER REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE BASED UPON EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AND TEN CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE ADDED CONDITION THAT STAFF REVIEW THE

[7. REZ 2021-29 Volusia Woods. Request to rezone approximately 5.24 acres of land from Residential, Single Family (RS-3) to Workforce Housing (WH) to allow for a residential subdivision that will consist of up to 36 single-family homes. The subject property is located on an unaddressed parcel with frontage on N Volusia St, Josiah St, N St. Johns St, and Helen St.]

SITE PLAN AND MAKE THE DECISION ADMINISTRATIVELY WHETHER IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THE -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> GOT A SECOND BY MR. MILLER.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION PASSES 4-2. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

>> THANK YOU ALL. >> OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7, MS. TAYLOR, AND I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY SPART EX PARTE COMMUNICATING ON THE PART OF

BOARD MEMBERS TO DECLARE. >> I DROVE BY THE SUBJECT

PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU, MR. PETER.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

MS. TAYLOR. >> THERE WE GO.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. KAREN TAYLOR, LAND PLANNER, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET. WITH ME TODAY ARE MY CLIENTS FROM HABITAT, MELINDA EVERSON WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AS WELL AS CHRIS DEVERALL AND MICHAEL WILLIAMS THAT DO A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION, AND THE CIVIL ENGINEER WHICH MAVERICK ENGINEERING WHICH IS JEREMY CALLAWAY.

AND I'LL GO THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK.

BUT BASICALLY THIS IS RIGHT ALONG VOLUSIA AVENUE AND BOUNDED BY JESSIAH ON THE NORTH, HELEN ON THE STRIET, NORTH ST. JOHN STREET AND NORTH VOLUSIA WHICH HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER, SOME PEOPLE KNOW AT A FOUR MILE ROAD. THE PROPERTY IS VACANT AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S FOUR REALLY LARGE LOTS EVEN THOUGH AROUND IT ARE A LOT SMALLER LOTS. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE IT IS OBJECT IT'S NORTH OF KING STREET.

YOU CAN SEE HOLMES BOULEVARD OFF TO THE WEST, STATE ROAD 16 TO THE NORTH, AND SO IT'S KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF QUITE A NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE CLOSER JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU RELATION IF YOU'VE BEEN ALONG FOUR MILE ROAD YOU CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT ROUND B.

IS. ROUND ABOUT.

AND THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL D LAND USE AREA, SO IT DOESN'T MEET ANY DENSITY BONUSES THROUGH THE WORK HORSE HOUSING THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR AS OUR REZONING, AND JUST KIND OF A GENERAL IDEA OF THE LARGE AREA OF THAT AND IT'S ALSO IN

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A LARGE AREA OF RS-3 ZONING BUT THE SIZE ON THOSE LOTS TO DO ANYTHING NEW ARE 75 FEET BY 100 FEET FOR THAT, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SMALLER LOT SIZES AVAILABLE THROUGH THE WORKFORCE HOUSING SINCE THAT IS WHAT THEY PROVIDE.

SO JUST -- WE HAD INCLUDED A SITE PLAN JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WE'RE GOING TO USE THE EXISTING ROADS.

THEY'RE IN GOOD CONDITION AROUND THE SITE AND PROVIDE ONE ACCESS THROUGH THE SITE SO THAT ALLOWS US THE LOTS.

THERE'S CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER FROM THE CITY, AND THEN WE'VE GOT DRAINAGE SHOWN, AND THIS IS THE GENERAL LAYOUT.

THE LOT SIZES CAN BE A MITCHELL 35 MINIMUM 3500 WHICH IS WHAT WORK WOARS WOULD ALLOW BUT MONTHS THEM ARE 45 FEET WIDE AND SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

SO HABITAT, IF YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THIS 13 -- 36 LOT SUBDIVISION FOR THE WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND THEY WANT TO RE-PLAT THAT INTO THE SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY LOT SIZES AND USE A DENSITY THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.

THE HOUSES WILL MEET THOSE CRITERIA.

AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WORD ABOUT THEM, THEY'VE DEVELOPED A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES HERE, INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND SOME COMMUNITIES. THEY'VE BUILT 154 HOPES FOR THOSE IN NEED ALREADY, AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT CALLED CANOPY OAKS THAT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE WHICH I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES OF, AND THAT WAS KIND OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF REVITALIZATION, BUT THE HOUSES WILL BE VERY SIMILAR, AND THEY RANGE FROM TWO TO THREE BEDROOMS. AND THESE ARE -- THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR COSTS, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE CRITERIA FOR THEIR BUILDING.

SOMEBODY MUST -- TO QUALIFY TO GET A HOUSE, THEY HAVE TO LIVE OR WORK IN COUNTY FOR A YEAR, THEY HAVE A CERTAIN INCOME LEVEL. THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THE NEED FOR IT. AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE 250 HOURS OF SWEAT EQUITY ON OTHER HOUSES AND ON THEIR OWN HOME IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR IT. JUST SOME PICTURES, JUST KIND OF JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT'S THE -- THAT WOULD BE THE EXIT TO THE NORTH ONTO VOLUSIA. THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET ON JOSIAH STREET AND THOSE HOUSES ARE UNDER CONSTRCTION.

YOU CAN TELL THEY WERE POURING IN THE DRIVEWAY FOR THIS ONE PARTICULAR ONE. IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT OF JUST LOOKING SOUTH ON THAT NORTH ST. JOHN STREET.

THESE ARE SOME OTHER LITTLE ONES THAT ARE ON ST. JOHN STREET AS WELL, SO WHAT THEY'RE THINKING OF BUILDING IS VERY SIMILAR.

YOU CAN SEE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, WHICH WOULD BE THE HABITAT SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDE SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE, BUT -- AND THE INTERSECTION OF HELEN AND NORTH ST. JOHN'S.

AND THEN LOOKING ALONG HELEN SPHREET AS STREET AS WELL. JUST A COUPLE PICTURES.

THIS IS CANOPY OAKS, SO THIS IS THE OTHER ONE THAT THEY ARE JUST ABOUT COMPLETING. AND I JUST KIND OF INCLUDED THOSE. EVEN ONE WITH AN OWNER.

SO THE REQUEST REALLY IS TO REZONE TO THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION. IT ALLOWS CERTAIN THINGS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM.

THE COVERAGE IN RELATIONSHIP BUT WE'LL MEET ALL OF THOSE.

WE DO FEEL IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE. IT MEETS THE SAME CRITERIA EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE A SMALLER LOT, THE HOUSES ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT HAS GREAT ACCESS TO KING STREET AND TO SCHOOLS AND PARKS, SO IT'S REALLY A VERY NICE LOCATION. AND IT IS COMPATIBLE.

IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF USE. WE'RE TAKING A RESIDENTIAL TO A RESIDENTIAL, CERTAINLY COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BESIDE IT AND CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMP PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO. SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I SAID I DO HAVE SOME OTHERRESTTIVES HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS -- OTHER REPRESENTATIVES HERE IF YOU DO

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THEM. >> SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? MS. PERKINS.

>> HOW DOES THE BACK LOT ACCESS THE HOUSE?

I'M CONFUSED BY THE SITE PLAN. >> THERE'S TWO ROADS THAT GO ACROSS, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN.

SO THERE'S EXISTING ROAD HERE. THIS IS JOSIAH AND THIS IS HELEN. I GUESS I SHOULD EXPLAIN THAT A

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LITTLE BETTER. AND THEN THAT'S THAT NORTH ST.

JOHN. >> I SEE IT NOW, SORRY.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER

CARDS? >> WE DO NOT.

>> WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

DR. MCCORMICK. >> I'M GOING TO OFFER A MOTION.

[INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] FOR APPROVAL. REZONING 2021-29 VOLUSIA WOODS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATE WILL YOU 5.24 ACRES LAND FROM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RS-3 TO WORKFORCE HOUSING W HCHT TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION THAT WILL CONSISTENT OF UP TO 36 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT

[10. CPA(SS) 2021-15 Wallace Property. Request for a Small Scale Comprehensive PlanAmendment to change the Future Land Use Map designation of approximately 8.16acres of land from Rural/Silviculture (R/S) to Residential-A (RES-A). Property is on anunaddressed parcel located on the north side of County Road 208 and approximately0.076 miles east of County Road 13 North.]

AS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT

PROVIDE. >> MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK.

IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MS. PERKINS. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES.

ITEMS 8 AND 9 WE HAVE DEFERRED UNTIL THE 20TH OF JANUARY.

ITEM 10. MR. CLAY.

THIS IS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT SO I DON'T BEVE WE HAVE EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SCOTT SCHAI 1203 ARDMORE STREET, SANTIAGO, FLORIDA 32092.

ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. I'M SCOTT CLAY AND I REPRESENT MR.W, WALLACE WILLIAMS III WHO IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 8.

16 ACRES OF LAND FROM RURAL/SILVICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL-A TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE REQUEST -- THIS 2 SEEKS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM RURAL/SILVICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL A. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY 8.16 ACRES THAT RUNS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE COUNTY ROAD 208 JUST EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 13 AND COUNTY ROAD 208. APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THE 8.

16-ACRE PARCEL. THE LOCATION THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED COUNTY ROAD 208 NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 208 AND COUNTY ROD 13 IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS PARCEL CONSISTENCE OF THAN THE 8.16 ACRES THAT RUNS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF COUNTY ROAD 208 EAST OF THE INTERSECTION COUNTY ROAD 13 AND COUNTY ROAD 208.

THE ZONING. CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS OPEN RURAL. THAT CURRENT ZONING IS ARE NOT ASKING FOR A REZONING. EXISTING LAND USE.

THE RURAL/SILVICULTURE LAND USE REQUIRES 40 ACRES TO BUILD A HOME. WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A RESIDENTIAL HOME TO BE BUILT ON THIS 8.16-ACRE PARCEL.

REQUESTED LAND USE. SINCE THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION WILL NOT ALLOW A HERBAL RESIDENCE ON THIS 40 ACRES, A CHANGE TO THE RESIDENTIAL-A LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY WILL ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON PARCEL. THIS SLIDE IS A PICTURE OF THE PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL WOOD 8.16-ACRE PARCEL.

THIS PARCEL IS THE IDEAL CLOAKS FOR A GROWING FAMILY TO LIVE AND PARENT CHILDREN. HERE'S A HOME SITE THAT MIGHT FIT ON THIS PARCEL. HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP.

THIS PROPOSED SUNIL FAMILY DWELLING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ALREADY EXISTING LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT ARE COMMON ALONG COUNTY ROAD 208.

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THIS AMOUNTED WOULD ACCOMMODATE A LARGE SINGLE FAMILY HOMESTEAD LIKE THOSE FOUND ALL ALONG THIS EXISTING COMMUNITY.

FINALLY, THIS PARCEL -- FINALLY, THIS PARCEL HAS BEEN USED IN THE PAST AS PASTURE AND FARMLAND. HERE ARE TWO SITE PHOTOS THAT SHOW THE PARCEL AS AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITE. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT APPLICATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE IN YOU SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT. AND MAYBE I'LL START WITH STAFF.

MS. BISHOP, WERE THIS ZONING, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PUT MORE THAN ONE HOME ON THIS PROPERTY? ZONING WITH THIS LAND USE,

EXCUSE ME, MODIFIED LAND USE. >> YES, SIR.

THEY ARE GOING TO RESIDENTIAL A. THAT IS THEIR REQUEST.

AND THEIR 8-POINT -- 8 ACRES IN SIDES, APPROXIMATELY 8 ACRES IN SIZE SO, YES, SIR, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN ONE UNIT IF THAT IS WHAT THEY CHOSE TO DO. IF THEY DID MORE THAN TWO UNITS, THEY WILL HAVE TO PLAT, SO IT WILL BE A PLATTED SUBDIVISION AT THAT POINT, BUT THAT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE APPLICANT'S INTENT. THAT'S WHAT HE'S INDICATED

TODAY. >> NO, I'M ASKING FOR ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TO BE BUILT AT THIS TIME.

>> SO IF THE MOTION INCLUDED A SUGGESTED TEXT AMENDMENT LIMITING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY TO ONE HOME, THAT WOULD

BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE IN YOU SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> THEN WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL SCALE 2021-15 RECOMMEND FOR A FUTURE LAND AMENDMENT

[11. CPA (SS) 2021-17 Price Family. Request for a Small-Scale Comprehensive PlanAmendment to change the Future Land Use Map designation of approximately 40.4acres of land from Parks and Open Space (PKOS) to Rural/Silviculture (R/S).]

DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATE 8.16 ACRES LAND FROM RURAL/SILVICULTURE TO RES-A BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT LIMITATION OF ONLY ALLOWING ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

>> VERY GOOD. A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. PETER.

ANY DISCUSSION? LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11, ANDNESS A PRESENTATION BY MR. KELLY, AND THIS IS A LAND USE CHANGE SO THERE IS NO

EX PARTE, I DON'T BELIEVE. >> I DON'T BELIEVE MR. KELLY HAS MADE IT OVER YEAR HERE YET BUT WE CAN PROCEED.

YOU WOULD LIKE, CHAIR.

THAT'S UP TO YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> I THINK YOU CAN HANDLE IT.

IFS CONFIDENCE IN YOU. >> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

IT IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES AT THE SOUTH TERMINUS OF BIRD CAMP ROAD FROM PARKS AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE TO RURAL/SILVICULTURAL.

THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP. YOU CAN SEE IT IS ZONED OR.

3. AND YOU CAN SEE THE DESIGNATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS PARKS AND RECREATION.

THIS WOULD BE THE EXHIBIT A OF YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE EVENT IT DOES GET APPROVED EVENTUALLY BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND, AND IT WOULD JUST BE SHOWN AS RS WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE THAT IRE ENTIRE AREA AROUND THERE IS RURAL/SILVICULTURE. THIS PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED IN 2000 WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT.

COUNTY STAFF HAS INVESTIGATED THIS QUITE A BIT TO SEE WHY IN THE WORLD THIS HAPPENED AS PARKS AND RECREATION OUT IN THAT AREA, AND WE HAVE EVEN CALLED FLAGLER COUNTY, CALLED THE WATER MMENTZ DISTRICT, WE HAVE CALLED VARIOUS PLACES TO SEE HOW THIS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED, AND WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S DOWN THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SINCE IT WAS A CHANGE THAT WAS MADE IN 2000 AND WE COULD TRACK THAT BACK AND SEE THAT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY SAID, YES, WE WANT THIS PARKS AND RECREATION BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHY. AND IT'S NEVER BEEN OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT AGENCY. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OWNED BY THE PRICE FAMILY SINCE THE 1970S. SO WE ARE WITH YOU TODAY TO

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HOPEFULLY GET A RECOMMENDATION TO SAY THAT IT CAN BE RURAL/SILVICULTURAL AND ALLOW THIS GENTLEMAN TO HAVE ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,

I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KELLY'S ASSISTANT? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> WELL, WE'RE BACK INTO THE

[12. PUD 2021-11 Rolling Hills. PUD 2021-11 Rolling Hills, a request to rezoneapproximately 12.7 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development(PUD) to accommodate a 47-lot single-family residential subdivision.]

AGENCY FOR A MOTION, THEN. MR.

PETER. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMOUNTED SMALL SCALE 2021-17 PRICE PROPERTY BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> WE'VE GOTTA MOTION BY MR. PETER.

IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND BY MR. PIERRE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. WELL DONE, MS. BISHOP.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11, AND MR. -- ITEM 12, EXCUSE ME THANK YOU, MADAME VICE CHAIR.

MR. GARCIA. >> GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING, WOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MAX GARCIA MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP HERE REPRESENTING POLTY HOMES FOR A ROLLING HILLS SUBDIVISION ITEM FOR PUD 2021-11.

IT IS LOCATED OFFEN ROLLING HILLS DRIVE A LITTLE LESS THAN A MILE EAST OF SR207. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS MAP, THE CLOSEST SUBDIVISIONS NEARBY WOULD BE DEERFIELD SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST AND HIDDEN LAKES SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH.

ON THIS ROAD THERE IS NOT MANY PARCELS OF THIS SIZE.

THE MOST OTHER GREAT ITEM ON THIS MAP WOULD BE THE EPIC THEATER IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT AND SIZE.

TOTE WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, -- SORRY -- EAST OF THISDI DEVELOPMENT IS THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ZONING, AND PART OF DOBBS ROAD IS A CORRIDOR OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES AND SIMILAR USES. LIKE I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY TO THE NORTH IS CHELSEA WOODS SUBDIVISION, AND TO THE WEST IS A ST. JOHNS COUNTY POND. IT WAS PURCHASED BY FDOT MANY YEARS AGO. AND TO THE SOUTH IS OPEN RURAL ZONING. THERE'S ABOUT THREE PARCELS THAT HAVE A MAJORITY OF THEIR FRONTAGE ALONG THE REAR BOUNDARY THERE. TH FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL C.

WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL C. AS PART OF THE PUD REZONING REQUEST, WE ARE AT APPROXIMATELY FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.

AS SHOWN ON THIS MDP MAP. WE HAVE ABOUT 12.7 ACRES AND OF THAT ABOUT 11 FNT HAVE .5 ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPABLE.

THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THIS PROPERTY ARE WETLANDS.

WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF IMPACTING ANY OF THE CONTIGUOUS WETLANDS AS HIGHLIGHTED AT THE BOTTOM HERE.

AND IN THE NORTHEAST -- YEAH, NORTHEAST SECTION THERE.

LIKE I MENTIONED WE ARE NOTE IMPACTING THESE WHATSOEVER THEY HAVE THEIR ARVIN 25-FOOT BUFFERS.

THERE ARE TWO NON-CONTIGUOUS WETLAND HERE THAT WON'T HAVE HOME ON TOP OF THEM. THEY ARE ON THE EDGES OF THESE PARCEL LINES OF THOSE HOMES. THIS SITE FEATURES A MINIMUM 1 ACRE RECREATIONAL AREA. DOWN THE SPINE OF THIS PROPERTY YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS A TRAIL THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR STORM WATER FACILITY. THERE'S A LITTLE TRAIL THAT WRAPS AROUND THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY.

AS PART OF THIS PROJECT WE'RE RETAINING AS MUCH WATER ON-SITE AS POSSIBLE. THERE ARE NO NON-RESIDENTIAL USES ASSOCIATED WITH OUR REQUEST.

THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 5300 SQUARE FEET.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE HOW THERE IS ONLY ONE ACTUAL PROPERTY THAT'S LESS THAN 5500 SQUARE FEET.

ALL OF THESE LOTS ARE ABOUT 50 FEET WIDE AND VERY VARY IN DEPTH BUT THE MAJORITY OF THESE UNITS ARE 5500 SQUARE FEET.

WE HAVE PAY 10 FROOT PERIMETER BUFFER ON THE WEST AND SOUTHBOUNDERY AS WELL AS THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY ALONG ROLLING HILLS DRIVE. ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY WE ARE REQUESTING WE HAVE A 30-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER.

ONE OF OUR WAIVERS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS GOING TO BE TO DECREASE THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT FROM C TO B.

THE INCOMPATIBILITY BUFFER WITH THE INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ZONING DESIGNATING REQUIRES A MASONRY WALL.

HOWEVER YOU'LL SEE FROM THIS AERIAL THAT BETWEEN US AND THOSE WAREHOUSES IS ABOUT 215 FEET OF SEPARATION, AND ACTUALLY THIS PROPERTY ALONG THE REAR HAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WHICH

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MEANS THAT NOTHING CAN BE PUSHED BACK FARTHER THAN THOSE WAREHOUSES, SO THE NATURAL AREA WILL REMAIN AS-IS FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. AND TO THE SOITH THE BOUNDARY WE DO HAVE THAT 10-FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER AND AT THAT PROPERTY LINE WE ARE 70 FEE AWAY FROM THE NEAREST GRECIAL OR NEAREST GRECIAL HOME OR BOUNDARY. RESIDENTIAL HOME.

AS PART OF THE OTHER WAIVER REQUEST JUST TO EXPLAIN THAT WUFER BUFFER RIGHT WE ARE REQUESTING TWO OTHER WAIVERS.

THE SECOND WAIVER IS TO REQUEST THAT PROJECTIONS FROM THE FOUNDATION WALLS OF ALL THE HOMES BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTIONS FORSAKE OF EAVES.

THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO MEET STANDARD FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS HAVING HYDROGEN WATER, I THINK IT'S 500 GALLONS PER MINUTE AVAILABLE IN ADDITION TO THESE HOMES, AND THEY STOIFL MEET THE PHYSICAL SEPARATION WHICH IS 5-FOOT SETBACKS.

AND THE FINAL WAIVER WE'RE REQUESTING IS FOR THE MECHANICAL UNITS FOR THESE HOPES. WE'RE REQUESTING A -- HOMES.

A 2-FOOT SETBACK INSTEAD OF THE SARN -- SORRY, 3-FOOT SETBACK INSTEAD OF THE STANDARD 5-FOOT SETBACK SO THAT THEY CAN PLACE MECHANICAL UNITS ALONG THE SIDES OF THE HOME SO THAT WE CAN MAKE POLITICAL SPACE IN THE BACKYARD FOR POOLS, PATIOS, ET CETERA.

THIS WILL MAKE A MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING BUILDING TO OFFER THOSE HOMES. ANOTHER PORTION OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY DEPARTMENT DID REQUIRE US TO DO A 1200-FOOT EXTENSION FOR THEIR SEWER MAIN UP TO THE CHELSEA WOODS HERE, SO THIS WILL ALL BE BUILT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT HELPING COMPLETE THE ROLLING HILLS DRIVE.

WATER IS IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE IN THIS SUBDIVISION SO THERE WON'T BE ANY EXTENSION LIKE THAT.

AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENT A IMPACT, THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT VEGETATIVE NATURAL COMMUNITIES OH THIS PROPERTY.

AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THERE ARE ABOUT 1.

2 ACRES OF WETLAND AND ONLY .08 ACRES WETLAND ARE BEING IMPACTED AND THEY ARE ISOLATED. THE ONLY OTHER SPECIES THAT WILL BE LOCATED ON IN SITE, VERY IMPORTANT, IS OUR GOPHER TORTOISES. AT 100% PEDESTRIAN SURVEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO RELOAKD LOCATE THOSE GOPHER TORTOISES BUT OTHERWISE THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT FOUND A SUITABLE HABITAT FOR OTHER SPECIES OF CONCERN, FOR EXAMPLE, TORTOISE AND WILDLIFE DATABASE SAID THERE'S NO BALD EAGLE NEST SIGHT WITHIN 100 FEET OF THE SIGHT. AS FAR AS SCHOOLS CONCERNED THEY ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED. ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WANT TEN-MINUTE TO RJ. MIDDLE SCHOOL AND A 15 MINUTE DRIVE SOUTH TO PEDRO MENENDEZ HIGH SCHOOL. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL PRODUCE ABOUT 12 NEW STUDENTS BASED ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BREAKDOWN.

THAT'S ABOUT FIVE STUDENTS FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ABOUT THREE STUDENTS FOR THE NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ABOUT FOUR STUDENTS FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. AS FAR AS THE TRAFFICKING IS CONCERNED, 47 PEAK P.M. TRIPS, RIGHT TURN LANE WILL BE REQUIRED. THE ROLLING HIMSELF DRIVE CORRIDOR IS CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED AND IS LESS IN AN 50%, AND STAFF FOUND THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR THIS LOT DUTY TO PEAK HOURS BEING LOW.

THERE'S NO TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIRED FOR IT.

HOWEVER, LIKE MENTIONED BEFORE THERE WOULD BE A RIGHT TURN LANE REQUIRED TBIEW DAILY TRIPS IS GREATER THAN 250.

AS FAR AS FLOOD ZONE IS CONCERNED, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE X FLOOD ZONE WITH A FLOODWAY GOING THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE WHERE THE WETLAND WILL BE LEFT ALONE. THE SOIL FOR THIS SITE ARE SUIT AB FOR DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE SANDY WITH LOW ORGANIC MATERIAL AND FOUND VERY GOOD FOR BUILDING HOUSES ON TOP OF.

IN SUMMARY, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION RESIDENTIAL C. AND WE ARE TRYING TO PURSUE A MORE COMPAC INFILL DEVELOPMENT WHILE PRESERVING THE NATURE ON THIS SITE. AS YOU HAVE SEEN MANY COP ACROSS THIS IS NOT PART OF OUR NORTHWEST WOODS SECTOR WE DEPONENT HAVE HOA FEES WOULD GO TOWARDS JUST MAINTAINING THOSE NATURAL COMMUNITIES ON THE SITE, AND THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT BUFFERS, ET CETERA. SO THIS IS A MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION FOR ITS FUTURE RESIDENTS. THEY ARE COMPAT I OBJECT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS WELL AS WE DO HAVE TWO PUDS WITHIN CLOSE APPROXIMATE PUNISHMENT P WE ARE REZONING FROM OR TO PUD.

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THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISIONS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LESS THAN 2 ACRES OR TWO UNITS PER ACRE, SO THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL. WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER AND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM POLTY AS WELL IF YOU NEED TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. DO ANY AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE ON THIS MATTER?

>> I VISITED THE SITE LAST WEEK. >> THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, MR. GARCIA. I COULDN'T FIND IN YOUR WRITTEN DESCRIPTION WHERE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS CALLED OUT.

IS IT IN THERE? >> YES, SIR.

I BELIEVE SO. THE MDP MAP AT LEAST -- DID MINIMUM LOT AREA IS 5300 SQUARE FEET.

>> IT SAYS THAT WHERE? >> IT'S PART OF THE MDP MAP WHICH IS INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT C. OF THE UPDATE MASTER DEVELOPMENT

PLAN AGREEMENT. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE IN YOU SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.

KEVIN MARKS. >> MY NAME IS KEVIN MARKS I LIVE AT 794 CYPRESS LOOD, AND WE E ARE JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION. WE'VE OWNED THAT PROPERTY FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS. IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED SEEING AN INCREASE IN FLOODING COMING FROM THE NORTH. WE'RE ALSO IN FLOOD ZONE X.

WE'RE IN THAT 500-YEAR PLUS FLOOD ZONE.

WE'VE BEEN SORT OF BEEN INVESTIGATING PUBLIC WORKS, ST.

JOHN RIVER MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS ROAD AND BRIDGES, AND THE DETERMINATION THERE GOES BACK ABOUT 20 YEARS BUT ROLLING HILLS, AT LEAST AT THE TIME WE MOVED THERE, WAS SORT OF A DIRT CONNECTION BETWEEN TWO AREAS THERE, AND WHEN IT WAS COMPLETED OR PAVED PAST THE EXISTING RETENTION POND, THEY PUT CULVERTS UNDER THE ROAD TO ALLOW FOR DRAINAGE FROM THE NORTH.

THAT WATER COMES IN WITH REALLY AREA DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION SORT OF COLLECTS THAT WATER.

AND NOW WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT FOT TO THE NORTH OF US, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE INCREASED FREQUENCY AND SEVERITY OF THE FLOODING THAT WE'RE GETTING. I DID REACH OUT TO THE ENGINEERS, MR. GARCIA WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE THE PROPOSED DAGE PLANS WITH US. IEWP A BUILDER MYSELF SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE.

WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ON RECORD TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS ADOPTION CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE -- DOOLING CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO FLOODING ISSUES THAT WE AND OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE IN THAT AREA. WE THINK THAT THE FLOODING IS PROBABLY AN ISSUE-FOR-DIRVET MEETING, OBVIOUSLY NOT TO BE ADDRESSED HERE BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE A CONCERN THERE.

FLOODING ON OUR PROPERTY HAS AT TIMES BEEN 10 OR 11 INCHES BACK IN THE CONSERVATION AREA. WE'VE MEASURED AND DOCUMENTED THAT TO BE UPWARDS OF 30 INCHES. SO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION I THINK REMAINS DRY BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE IMPERV COVERAGE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, AND HOW THAT MIGHT EFFECT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE SORT OF MOVING FORWARD THERE, AND SORT OF SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ALSO AFFECTED BY THAT DRAINAGE. NOW, WE ARE WORKING WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION AND MAYBE DIVERT SOME OF THAT WATER THAT COMES INTO THAT CONSERVATION AREA. IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS SO WE DON'T HAVE AN ABSOLUTE RESOLUTION YET.

I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO WHICH DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HANDLE IT AND PAY FOR IT, SO WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF BEEN PASSED AROUND BUT WE'VE CONTINUING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE DRAINAGE PLAN IN QUESTION IS OBVIOUSLY TAKING THE WETLAND INTO CONSIDERATION THERE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, AGAIN, BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION, AND UNDERSTANDING THE EXISTING ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF THIS AREA IN QUESTION. THAT'S ALL.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> OKAY.

WOULD THE APPLICANT I LIKE TO OFFER SOME REBUTTAL?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, ANGST MEMBERS I'M CHRIS BUT AREFIELD, ST. AUGUSTINE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THE STORM WATER. THE IN CURRENT CONDITIONS THE EXISTING GROUND OUT THERE MOSTLY SHEET FLOWS TO THE SOUTH, KIND OF SOUTHWEST TO THAT WETLAND. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO CAPTURE A MAJORITY OF THAT WATER, ALMOST LAFAYETTE ALL OF AND IT ROUTE TO IT STORM WATER POND WHERE WE HAVE TO MEET

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CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR AGENCIES SUCH AS THE DISTRICT AND THE THE ONTARIO AND HOLD BACK A LOT OF THAT WATER SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IN S. IN POST DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS WE OUTPUT LESS WATER THAN WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE IS GETTING RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH THE DISTRICT AND THE JMENT IS THAT SPOKES TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUE, BUT JUST KNOW THAT WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS MEETING THAT CRITERIA AND WE SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE MAKING THE

SITUATION BETTER OUT THERE. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE A CULVERT THAT COMES ONTO THE ROAD FROM OTHER SIDE OF

ROLLING HILLS? >> THERE IS A CLOSED DRAINAGE SYSTEM OUT THERE. IT'S CURB AND GUTTER.

SO THAT'S NOT WHERE OUR ULTIMATE OUTFALL.

IS. WE HAVE TO MEET IS AIM SAME OUTFALL LOCATION SO THAT'S THE SOUTHWEST WET GLNLD LET ME REASK MY QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE OFF-SIGHT WATER

COMING TO YOU FROM THE NORTH? >> NO IT'S CAPTURED BY ROLLING HILLS AND TAKEN BY THE ROLLING HILLS SYSTEM.

>> THANK YOU. >> SURE.

ALL RIGHT. >> WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2021-11 ROLLING HILINGS

[13. PUD 2021-07 Winding Oaks. PUD 2021-07 Winding Oaks, a request to rezoneapproximately 217.36 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development(PUD) to allow for a maximum 279 single family residential units, specifically located atthe north side of SR 207, east of Allen Nease Road. This item was continued from theOctober 21, 2021 PZA hearing.]

A REQUEST TO REZONING FROCKS REPLY 12.7 AREAS, OF LAND FROM OPEN RAWRL TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOMMODATED 47 SINGLE FAMILY DESCRESH SUBDIVISION BASED UPON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. PIERRE. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

3. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION PASSES. AND SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM 13. MS. ACEVEDO, AND BEFORE SHE STARTS DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE ON ITEM 13? ALL RIGHT.

YOU HAVE THE CHLORO, MS. ACEVEDO.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY. I'M SHANNON ACEVEDO WITH MATTHEW 69 DRIEWP 7 WALDO STREET EXPRK WITH ME HERE TODAY IS OUR PROJECT TEAM, JUSTIN OF PULL OUTY HOME COMPANY, MYSELF AND CHRIS BURTDMORE WHO IS JUST UP FOR MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP, AND ALSO WE HAVE RAJ AC IS BEHIND LAR SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC ARE, OWB TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT.

AND I'LL TRY AND BE BRIEF WITH THIS.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION OR A PORTION OF IT BEFORE SO I'LL TRY AND HIT ALL THE HIGHLIGHT WITHOUT GOING OVER TOO MUCH. JUST AS A ROIRPD FOR SOME OF THOSE THAT HAVE SEEN US BEFORE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 200 PLUS ACRE SITE THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF STATE ROAD 207.

AND IT'S CURRENTLY AN OPEN RURAL ZONING, AND IT IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL B FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE AROUND IT. ALONG 95 AND STATE ROAD 207, INBOUNDED BY THE RAILS TO TRAILS TO THE WEST.