Dec 07, 2021 Board of County Commissioners

[Call to Order by Chair]

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>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

WE HAVE ALL 4 ACCOUNTED FOR. WILL NOW HAVE THE INVOCATION.

PLEASE STAND. >> HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE LEADERSHIP OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE ARE PRAYING FOR A PRODUCTIVE MEETING LORD. WE THANK YOU FOR WISDOM TODAY, FATHER. YOUR HOLY SCRIPTURE ENCOURAGES US TO PRAY FOR WISDOM. YOU SAID GETTING WISDOM IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO. WITH THE WISDOM IT SAYS TO DEVELOP COMMON SENSE AND GOOD JUDGMENT.

IF WE EXALT WISDOM, SHE WILL EXALT US.

IF WE HOLD FAST TO WISDOM SHE WILL LEAD US TO GREATHONOR.

AND SHE WILL PLACE A GREAT COUNT STOMACH CROWN ON HER HEAD. WE ALSO PRAY FOR UNITY.

YOUR WORD TELLS US THAT WE ALL TRAVEL ON THE SAME ROAD AND IN THE SAME DIRECTION. I PRAY WE STAY TOGETHER TODAY BOTH OUTWARDLY AND INWARDLY. WE HAVE ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL.

WHO RULES OVER ALL WORK THROUGH ALL AND IS PRESENT IN ALL.

EVERYTHING WE ARE, THINK AND DO I PRAY IS PERMEATED WITH ONENESS. IN JESUS'S NAME I PRAY.

AMEN. >> PLEASE REMAIN STANDING IF YOU WILL. WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE . KRISTIN, WE LEAD US INTO

PLEDGE? >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN REMEMBRANCE OF PEARL HARBOR, DECEMBER 7, 1941.

>> OKAY. LET'S GET A LITTLE MORE EXERCISE THIS MORNING. PEARL HARBOR WAS VERY CRITICAL FOR THIS NATION AND VERY SAD. LET STAND FOR A FEW MOMENTS IN RECOGNITION OF PEARL HARBOR. THANK YOU.

[Florida Association of Counties Retirement Recognition for Patrick McCormack, Esq.]

PAT MCCORMICK IS OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.

WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND AROUND THE STATE THAT APPRECIATE HIS 17 YEARS OF SERVICE.WE ACTUALLY HAVE 3 PRESENTATIONS. AND I ALSO WANT TO HEAR FROM ANYONE ON THE STAFF OR PUBLIC IF THEY WANT TO SAY A WORD.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MY GOOD FRIEND, AND SUPER LEADER OF OUR (INDISCERNIBLE) (NAME) TO PRESENT A PLAQUE ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.GINGER, GOOD MORNING.

>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU. LET ME FIRST START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AND EMILY ANDERSON AND OUR OFFICE TO COME AND BE A PART OF YOUR RECOGNITION OF THE 17 YEARS OF SERVICE OF PATRICK MCCORMACK HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR HIM.

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SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I ALSO WANT TO START WITH ANOTHER PIECE OF GRATITUDE.

IT IS THIS: IT IS TO THIS COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING PATRICK AND HIS STAF TO BE USED AND ABUSED BY COUNTY ATTORNEY'S ALL AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE LAST, AT LEAST, 15 YEARS.

I KNOW HE'S BEEN HERE 17 YEARS. BUT REALLY, MY PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT WITH PATRICK GOES BACK TO 16 OF THE 17 YEARS.

PATRICK HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY ACTIVE WITH HIS PEERS AROUND THE STATE. THROUGH THE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY ATTORNEYS AS WELL AS ASSISTING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, COUNTY MANAGERS, COUNTY ENGINEERS THROUGH THE WORK THAT WE DO AT WHAT I AFFECTIONATELY CALL THE MOTHERSHIP -- THE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AS WELL.

SO I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL IN THE COUNTY FOR ALLOWING US TO USE HIS BRAIN AND YOUR RESOURCES FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA.A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT PATRICK, THOUGH, THAT I THINK ARE WORTH NOTING. PATRICK HAS BEEN HERE FOR 17 YEARS. OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, THROUGH HIS ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT AND LEADERSHIP AND RECOGNITION BY HIS PEERS AROUND THE STATE, THAT GROUP HAS ACTUALLY GROWN FROM SOMEWHERE AROUND 150 COUNTY ATTORNEYS AND ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEYS OVER THAT TIME PERIOD TO THIS YEAR, THEY HAD A MEMBERSHIP OF 295. SO ALMOST 300 COUNTY ATTORNEYS AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA NOW PARTICIPATE WITH THAT ORGANIZATION. SO IT IS WITH THAT KIND OF SUPPORT THAT IT IS INCREDIBLY HONORING THAT PATRICK HAS SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR OVER A DECADE. SO HE'S BEEN ELECTED BY HIS PEERS TO SERVE AND TO HELP. HE'S RECEIVED NUMEROUS AWARDS OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THE PRESIDENTS AWARD THAT IS GIVEN OUT BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION EVERY YEAR.

HE'S RECEIVED THE WRITING AWARD BEFORE AND THE ETHICS IN GOVERNMENT AWARD 3 TIMES OVER. I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE CHARACTER AND WORK ETHIC AND INTELLECT OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO, UNFORTUNATELY WILL BE LEAVING YOU ALL AS WELL AS US AROUND THE STATE. HE ALSO SERVED NOT ONLY AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, BUT HE WAS ELECTED BY HIS PEERS AROUND THE STATE TO BE AN OFFICER OF THE ORGANIZATION. SERVING AS ITS PRESIDENT NOT MANY YEARS AGO. JUST IN 2017.

SO THE PRESIDENT OF THIS INCREDIBLY GROWING AND VIBRANT ORGANIZATION OF HIS PEERS FROM AROUND THE STATE.

HE'S ALSO SERVED ON MANY COMMITTEES OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS.HE COUNTY ATTORNEYS CAN DIFFER IN THEIR OPINIONS ON READING THE SAME WORDS ON THE PAGE.

AND EVEN WHEN THEY ARE ALL FRIENDS AND NOT EVEN ADVERSARIES, THEY OFTEN DON'T AGREE.

SO THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF COMMITTEE WORK AND GROUPTHINK THAT GOES ON AMONG THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS TO ARRIVE AT A PARTICULAR CONCLUSION. EITHER ON NEW LEGISLATION OR COURT OPINION THAT HAS COME OUT.

THAT MIGHT IMPACT HOW THINGS OPERATE AND ARE GOVERNED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. SO HIS SERVICE ON MANY OF THOSE COMMITTEES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IS SOMETHING WE WILL MISS VERY MUCH. MOST NOTABLY, I FIRST GOT TO KNOW PATRICK AS WELL AS I HAVE THROUGH HIS VERY STEADFAST LEADERSHIP ON BEHALF OF ABOUT 55 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ON A PIECE OF STATEWIDE LITIGATION THAT WE FILED AGAINST THE STATE ON THE MEDICAID COST SHARE.

THERE WERE BILLING ERRORS. YOU MAY HAVE REMEMBERED THIS OR BEEN AROUND AND WATCH WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE TIME.

BILLING ERRORS THAT THE STATE THEN SOUGHT TO COLLECT IN A RATHER DRACONIAN MANNER.N THE COUNTIES AROUND THE STATE WERE CHALLENGING THE BILLS THAT WERE ACTUALLY COMING TO THEM.

SOME OF WHICH WERE 10 YEARS IN ARREARS.

SOME MISTAKES THAT HAD ALLEGEDLY BEEN MADE IN BILLING GOING BACK MANY, MANY MOONS AGO.

IT IMPACTED EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE.

AND PATRICK AND THIS COUNTY LED TREMENDOUSLY WITH TECHNICAL ADVICE, WITH SUPPORT AND EXPERTISE IN BEING ABLE TO SHEPHERD AND HAVE THE STRATEGY ON THAT STATEWIDE LITIGATION.

AND AGAIN, SPEAKING TO PATRICK AND HIS TEMPERAMENT AND WORK ETHIC -- IF YOU COULD IMAGINE TRYING TO LEAD 55 DIFFERENT

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DESPITE HIS RETIREMENT. AND FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO PATRICK, EMILY AND I WILL MISS YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

YOU HAVE BEEN AN AMAZING FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE.

YOU ALWAYS ANSWER MY CALLS, NO MATTER WHAT TIME I CALL YOU -- SUNDAYS, MONDAY MORNING AT 7 AM.

YOU ANSWER MY CALLS. YOU HELP US OUT.OU HELP OUT THE COUNTIES OF THIS STATE. WE WILL MISS YOU.

GODSPEED TO YOU, MY FRIEND. WE DO HAVE A FORMAL RECOGNITION FOR YOU. EMILY COORDINATED -- WE HAVE A FAVORITE PHOTOGRAPHER IN TALLAHASSEE THAT DOES AMAZING PHOTOS OF DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE CAPITAL, IF YOU WILL.

EITHER THE CAPITAL BUILDING ITSELF OR THE OTHER BUILDINGS AROUND THE STATE CAPITAL. THIS IS ONE OF OUR FAVORITES.

AND PATRICK, WE HAD THIS FRAMED FOR YOU AND RECOGNITION OF YOUR SERVICE TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AS WELL AS ALL THE COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THIS IS FOR YOU, MY FRIEND.

[APPLAUSE] WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU!

>> NOW, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THE HEAD OF THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY VETERANS COUNCIL. E DOES SO MUCH FOR ALL THE VETERANS IN THIS COUNTY AND IS JUST A WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANT. BILL DUDLEY, WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? YOU MIGHT WANT TO INTRODUCE

YOUR COMPADRES! >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING.

I HAVE WITH ME 2 DISTINCT SERGEANT MAJORS.

I HAVE SERGEANT MAJOR RAY QUINN AND ALSO COMMAND SERGEANT MAJOR JOE MCDERMOTT. FROM OUR VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE.WE JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY THIS MORNING TO THANK OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, PATRICK MCCORMACK FOR HIS SUPPORT FOR OUR VETERANS IN THIS COUNTY OVER THE YEARS.

IN THE TIME THAT HE HAS BEEN OF SERVICE.

HE HAS NOT ONLY BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER OF ALL OF OUR VETERANS IN THIS COUNTY, BUT HE HAS BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR THEM AS WELL. AND OVER THE YEARS, HE HAS BEEN MY GO TO PERSON HERE IN THE COUNTY.

ON MANY OCCASIONS AND MANY TIMES OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED ASSISTANCE AND HELP FROM FOOT UIDANCE.

AND HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT.

HE WAS ALSO A STRONG SUPPORTER, BEING WITH THE NAVY BACKGROUND, HELPING ME OUT A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO REPLACE ME AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NAVY LEAGUE.

I RECRUITED HIM INTO THE NAVY LEAGUE.

AFTER HE WAS RECRUITED AND ONBOARD, I QUICKLY APPOINTED HIM TO BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE FOR THE COUNCIL FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. AND HE WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING SOME EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT CANDIDATES IN ALL THE POSITIONS IN THE COUNCIL. EXCEPT FOR ONE.

AND THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT'S POSITION.

SO I EXPLAINED TO HIM HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.

IF YOU CAN'T FIND SOMEONE FOR A PARTICULAR OFFICE, YOU HAVE TO HOLD THAT OFFICE. SO HE BECAME THE PRESIDENT.

SO HE BAILED ME OUT ON THAT OCCASION.

AND HE'S DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF GUIDING THIS NAVY LEAGUE COUNSEL OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS. WE ARE EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR THAT AS WELL. WITH THAT, WE HAVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO HIM THIS MORNING.

ON BEHALF OF THE VETERANS COUNCIL.

AND I SPEAK FOR ALL OF THE VETERANS WHEN I SAY THIS THIS MORNING -- WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO PATRICK THIS MORNING OUR APPRECIATION. IN GRATEFUL APPRECIATION AND

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YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO HELPING THOSE IN NEED. YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF A SERVANT LEADER. AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE FOR YOU. WE HAVE ANOTHER GIFT FOR YOU AS WELL. THAT IS A FLAG THAT WE HAVE THAT FLEW OVER THE ARIZONA -- USS ARIZONA IN HAWAII.

I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE THAT THAT FLAG BE PRESENTED TODAY.ERGEANT MAJOR QUINN WILL PRESENT THAT.

>> DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY, UNITED STATES ARIZONA CERTIFICATE OF FLAG PRESENTATION TO PATRICK MCCORMACK. IN TRIBUTE TO THE MORE THAN 2400 LIVES LOST DURING THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR, IT FLIES CONTINUOUSLY FROM A FLAG POLE MOUNTED TO THE SHIP THE USS ARIZONA. DURING THE HOURS OF DARKNESS (INDISCERNIBLE). STRICKEN FROM THE ACTIVE LIST IN 1942, THE ARIZONA RESTING AND 38 FEET OF WATER IS NO LONGER IN COMMISSION. THE UNITED STATES FLAG ACCOMPANYING THIS CERTIFICATE WAS RAISED AND LOWERED ON THE ARIZONA MEMORIAL ON 7 DECEMBER, 2020 AT 11 0300 HOURS SIGNED AND AUTHENTICATED THIS DATE, 14 AUGUST, 2021 BY (NAME), SUPERINTENDENT PEARL HARBOR NATIONAL MEMORIAL.

SIR.

[APPLAUSE] >> ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY

[BCC Retirement Recognition of Patrick McCormack, Esq.]

AND I WANT TO SAY -- I'LL BE BRIEF -- I KNOW THAT SHOCKS YOU THAT I CAN BE BRIEF! BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT. BUT IT'S IRONIC, I THINK, PATRICK HAS SERVED 17 YEARS. THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME I SPENT AS DIRECTOR OF THE ST. JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. WE SHARE A SIMILAR, I'LL CALL IT, JOB RISK. WHEN YOU SERVE FOR A COLLEGIAL BODY, YOU ARE THERE EMPLOYEE. YOU WORK FOR THEM, BUT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE HONEST, LEGAL OPINIONS AS MUCH AS I DID AT ST. JOHN'S. HE'S HAD TO TELL US WHEN WE ARE WRONG. AND STILL RETAIN HIS POSITION! [LAUGHTER] SOMETIMES THAT'S SHORT OF A HAT TRICK. THINK ABOUT THAT -- I DON'T KNOW, GINGER, HOW MANY COUNTY ATTORNEYS HAVE MADE IT THROUGH OVER 15 YEARS OF SERVICE? BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS, AT LEAST ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, WE ARE ALL SITTING UP THERE THINKING WE REALLY NEED TO DO THIS.

AND HERE COMES PATRICK. AND HE SAYS NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT! [LAUGHTER] SO WITH THAT IN MIND AND THE DIFFICULTY OF SURVIVING 17 YEARS OF THE SLINGS AND ARROWS OF THE ROTATING GROUP OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS (LAUGHING), I WANT TO, ON BEHALF OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, PRESENT PATRICK A PLAQUE. WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO TELL PATRICK THAT DURING MY 5 YEARS, I APPRECIATED HIS BRUTAL HONESTY.

HIS WILLINGNESS TO SIT DOWN TO DISCUSS AND EXPLAIN HIS POSITION WITH ME AND NOT TRY TO STONEWALL ME IN ANY WAY.

HAT'S ALSO TRICKY TO DO. I APPRECIATE IT, PATRICK.

YOU KNOW THAT.O WITH THAT SAID -- THIS IS FROM THE ST.

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YOUR WORK ETHIC, PROFESSIONALISM AND LOYAL SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE GRATEFULLY HONORED WITH APPRECIATION. DECEMBER 7, 2021.

[APPLAUSE] BEFORE PATRICK SPEAKS, AND HE PROMISED ME HE TOO WILL BE BRIEF, I WAS PRETTY BRIEF, WASN'T I? I WANT TO DO MAYBE WHAT'S UNUSUAL, BUT I WANT TO ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS OR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR -- YOU KNOW, 30 SECONDS, MAYBE. NOT 3 MINUTES.

TO OFFER YOUR THOUGHT OF WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB PATRICK HAS DONE. I'LL START WITH MY FELLOW

COMMISSIONERS.>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEAN.

I WILL SAY THIS. PATRICK IS TOUGH AND HE IS GENEROUS. PATRICK IS A DUCK ON A WATER WHO LOOKS LIKE HE IS SMOOTH SAILING.

BUT THOSE FEET ARE WORKING UNDERNEATH.

HE WORKS HARD. HE WORKS LONG HOURS FOR ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. HE'S DONE THAT FOR MANY YEARS.

AND AS COMMISSIONER DEAN ALLUDED TO, THERE ARE THINGS IN THAT WATER TRYING TO PULL HIM DOWN.ND PATRICK KEEPS MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT SO MUCH AS BREAKING A SWEAT THROUGHOUT THE HARD WORK. HE IS GENEROUS AND DEDICATES A LOT OF HIS TIME TO HELPING OTHER ATTORNEYS AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA KEEP THE STANDARD WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. HE IS GENEROUS TO WHERE HE DEDICATES HIS TIME TO THE VETERANS.

SO MR. MCCORMACK, THANK YOU FOR BEING THE ATTORNEY FOR ST.

JOHNS COUNTY THAT WE'VE NEEDED FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO READ FORMER COMMISSIONER SMITH TEXT ME LAST NIGHT AND YOU WANT ME TO READ WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. HE SAID, MR. MCCORMACK THANK YOU FOR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. LIKEWISE, I APPRECIATE YOUR SELFLESS SERVICE TO OUR NATION AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.

I WISH YOU THE VERY BEST IN PYOUR RETIREMENT AND WHATEVER YOU MAY DO OR WHEREVER YOU MIGHT GO.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND PROTECT YOU AS YOU SEEK AND SERVE HIM.

GRATEFULLY AND RESPECTABLY, JOB S SMITH.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M KIND OF THE QUIET ONE BUT HAD STRONG ON A LOT OF ITEMS. AND PATRICK HAS ALWAYS KEPT ME ON THE ROAD. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, AS COMMISSIONER, WE GO DOWN A DIFFERENT ROAD.

I APPRECIATE PATRICK'S SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.

HE'S DEALT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. NOT WHAT WOULD SERVE HIM BEST IN HIS JOB, BUT WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS AND THE PEOPLE OF ST.

JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PATRICK ROSE TO THE OCCASION WHEN WE HAD AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT YEAR. HE EMBRACED THE CHALLENGING ROLE OF BEING THE CHIEF LEGAL ADVISOR OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES THAT WE WERE FACING.

PATRICK MCCORMACK STOOD IN THE GAP AND DID EVERYTHING HE COULD TO HELP THIS COUNTY SAFE. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THE FAMILIES OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

HE HAD AN INCREDIBLY TOUGH JOB AND OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE GRATEFUL TO HIM. I WISH HIM WELL IN HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE PDONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR COUNTRY AS A DECORATED VETERAN. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE TRENCHES HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

>> ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SAY A WORD OR 2? 20 OR 30 SECONDS? THIS IS MARK MINER, WHO IS THE

DEPUTY CLERK OF COURT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, I THE PLEASURE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD BACK FROM 2008 TO 2012 DURING THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. OUR FIRST YEAR BUDGET WAS ABOUT 744 MILLION. THE NEXT YEAR WAS ABOUT 515 MILLION. WE WERE STRUGGLING TO KEEP THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FUNDED, TO KEEP DEPUTIES ON THE STREET AND FIRE STATIONS OPEN. IT WAS A VERY CHALLENGING TIME.

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WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW COMMISSIONERS WITH BIG PASSIONS AND BIG IDEAS. IF IT WEREN'T FOR PEOPLE LIKE PATRICK MCCORMACK, THIS WOULDN'T BE THE COMMUNITY IT IS. PATRICK, YOU ARE THE PERSONIFICATION OF SELFLESS SERVICE.

YOUR NAVAL CAREER AND YOUR CAREER HERE.

SO FOR ME TO YOU, THANK YOU. >> BETH BRADY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAD A LOT OF YEARS TO DEAL WITH LEGAL AND WITH PATRICK. PATRICK, YOU HAVE ALWAYS TREATED ME WITH RESPECT. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KIND AND FAIR TO ME, EVEN WHEN WE WERE POLAR OPPOSITES AND WHAT WE BELIEVED. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

>> LIKEWISE. I'VE KNOWN PATRICK FOR 15 YEARS. HE IS ONE OF THE MOST ETHICAL AND HONEST PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

AND EVEN WHEN YOU GET FEISTY WITH HIM SOMETIMES, HE IS ALWAYS KIND AND TAKES THE HIGH ROAD.

I AM VERY MUCH GOING TO MISS YOU AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

BEING (INDISCERNIBLE). >> MR. MCCORMACK, AS A CITIZEN WHO COMES TO THESE MEETINGS AND DOESN'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT I'M DOING, YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY KIND AND GUIDED US AND WHAT TO DO AND GIVEN US TIME TO SPEAK.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK.

>> I FINALLY REMEMBERED PATRICK MCCORMACK WHEN THE DISTRICTING WAS BEING DONE BUT BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.

WE HAD 2 COLLEGIAL BODIES. AND TO SUMMARIZE THIS, DEAN RUSK SAID DURING THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS WE WERE EYEBALL TO EYEBALL. THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTED TO CUT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN (INDISCERNIBLE) DISTRICT 2 TO 9.8 PERCENT. HE SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IT VIOLATES AVOIDING STOMACH VOTING RIGHTS ACT. PATRICK WORKED THE WEEKEND -- WHICH OUR GOVERNMENT LAWYERS NEVER DO.

THE SCHOOL BOARD COULDN'T EVEN TELL US HOW LONG HE HAD BEEN THERE. (INDISCERNIBLE).

PATRICK GAVE GOOD LEGAL ADVICE. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE DESEGREGATED OUR ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

PATRICK HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES AND HAS HELPED TO TO SEGREGATE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

GOD BLESS YOU, PATRICK. >> GAIL OLIVER, AND THE COUNTY SURVEYOR. AND BEING THE MORE SENIOR STAFF MEMBER IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE (LAUGHING), I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO PATRICK HAVING SERVED WITH YOU THAT YOU HAVE NOT ONLY BEEN A GREAT ATTORNEY AND MENTOR TO US, BUT A GREAT FRIEND TOO.

WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO ONLY HAVE WORKED WITH JIM SISCO AND PATRICK MCCORMACK. AND AFTER MR. CISCO RETIRED, WE WOULD BE IN MEETINGS BRAINSTORMING HOW TO DO THINGS.

WHAT WOULD JIM SISCO DO? JIM SISCO ALWAYS HAD STAFF STICK TO THE FACTS. PROVIDE THE FACTS.

NOW WE ARE GOING TO ASK OURSELVES WELL, WHAT WOULD PATRICK MCCORMACK DO? PAT MCCORMICK THINKS OUT OF THE BOX. SO NOW WE HAVE 2 DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO APPROACH PROJECTS IN WHAT WE DO.

AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORK:WORKING WITH DAVID MAKE IT. AND HAVING WORKED WITH 3 COUNTY ATTORNEYS, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AND SAD.

I'LL TRY NOT TO GET AS CHOKED UP AS BETH DID, BUT WE WILL MISS YOU, PATRICK. I'M GOING TO MISS YOUR TRAVEL STORIES AND HOPE WE CAN HAVE LUNCH FROM TIME TO TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> MIKE (NAME) GROWTH MANAGEMENT. FIRST OFF, I'M VERY IMPRESSED THAT THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES WOULD COME ALL THIS WAY AND DO SUCH A GREAT PRESENTATION.

THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION.

I HAD NO IDEA, PATRICK, THAT YOU DID ALL THAT FOR THAT ORGANIZATION. KUDOS FOR THAT.

GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU NEEDED TO.

LET ME SAY BRIEFLY THAT THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF OVER THE YEARS TO BOTH MANAGEMENT IS EXEMPLARY.HE AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT THIS OFFICE TAKES IT ON THE CHIN AND DOESN'T CALL OUT NAMES.

AND JUST GIVES GOOD ADVICE. DIRECTS THE BOARD WHERE THEY NEED TO BE DIRECTED. DIRECTS STAFF OR THEY NEED TO BE DIRECTED. AND YOU ARE ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS.HAT HAS ALWAYS IMPRESSED ME. SO GOOD LUCK TO YOU IN YOUR

RETIREMENT! >> JUAN DAVID MAKE IT.

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TO THE ATTORNEYS, PARALEGALS AND SUPPORT STAFF.

JUST A GREAT DEPARTMENT LEADER AND WE WILL ALL MISS YOU.

THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> AND THE BOARD DOES HAVE A LONG AGENDA TODAY, SO I WILL KEEP MY REMARKS BRIEF.

I WAKE UP EVERY MORNING IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

IN THE BEST STATE IN THAT COUNTRY, THE FREEDOM STATE.

AND THE BEST COUNTY IN THAT STATE, ST. JOHNS COUNTY.I KNOW MANY -- OF THE 67 COUNTIES, PROBABLY THEIR COUNTY ATTORNEYS FEEL THEIR ME WAY ABOUT THEIR COUNTY.

THAT IT'S EITHER THE BEST OR COULD BE THE BEST.

BUT IT'S NOT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT MAKES THE COUNTY GREAT. THE JOB OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS TO PROVIDE THE DECISION SPACE SO THAT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, THESE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR DIFFICULT JOB AND THEIR ADMINISTRATION, AND THE ADMINISTRATION'S DEPARTMENTS CAN MAKE THIS COUNTY THE BEST COUNTY IT CAN BE. AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT IN MY TIME HERE AT THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY HAS HAD SOME ADVANTAGES TOO.WE HAVE ALL-STAR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. WE HAVE YOU MUNICIPALITIES WHICH ARE GEMS IN THE STATE, IN THE COUNTRY, AND INTERNATIONALLY. WE HAVE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE VETERANS COUNCIL, WES AUGUSTINE STEERING COMMITTEE, PALM VALLEY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND MANY OTHERS THAT ARE THE CITIZENS BACKBONE FOR IMPROVING THE COUNTY. ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, I THINK, HAS MADE THIS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE.

FAR FROM PERFECT. THE OUTGOING COUNTY ATTORNEY IS FAR, FAR FROM PERFECT. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD A FEW NOTES ABOUT THAT EARLIER. BUT I'M JUST VERY HONORED AND PRIVILEGED AND GRATEFUL TO HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THE COUNTY ATTORNEY STAFF, FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM, I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE WORKED WITH. AND I THINK I WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN ANOTHER PUBLIC SETTING TO THANK THEM INDIVIDUALLY.BUT THEY HAVE SUPPORTED ME.

ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, FROM THEM.

THE MISTAKES WE MADE IS PROBABLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T LISTEN TO THEM AS MUCH AS I SHOULD HAVE.

BUT FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU -- AND FOR THE CITIZENS SITTING IN HERE TODAY, SOMETIMES YOU WILL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM OR SOMETHING WILL GO YOUR WAY.

SOMETIMES IT WON'T GO YOUR WAY. BUT WHAT I HAVE LEARNED OVER MY TIME AS THE COUNTYATTORNEY , THAT ALL THE INPUT IS GOOD.

AND WHETHER YOU THINK IT MAKES A CHANGE, EITHER ON THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION OR THE COUNTY DECISION-MAKING GOING FORWARD, IT DOES MAKE THAT CHANGE.

IT DOES HAVE THAT INPUT. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

R. CHAIR.

[APPLAUSE] >> WE DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE

[Proclamation recognizing the Hispanic Heritage Council of St. Johns County]

PLEASE JOIN ME ON THE FLOOR. >> PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA.

WHEREAS THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COUNCIL OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS DESIGNED TO BENEFIT THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND PRESERVE ITS HERITAGE THROUGH THE ARTS, EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY AWARENESS. WHERE IS THE COUNCIL'S MISSION IS TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES AND BUSINESSES TO SHARE HISPANIC CULTURE, HISTORY AND IDEALS. WHEREAS THE HISPANIC HERITAGE

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PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE 7TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2021. SIGNED A BRANDON PATTY CLERK OF COURTS. HENRY DEAN, CHAIRMAN.

>> THANK YOU. I WILL SAY YOU CAN'T DISCUSS THE HISTORY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT THAT HISPANIC HERITAGE HAS HAD.

DATING BACK TO SAINT AUGUSTINE'S FOUNDING.

THE HISPANIC HERITAGE HAS SHAPED AND TOUCHED ALMOST EVERY ELEMENT OF WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT ST. JOHN'S TODAY.

SO KNOWING THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO KEEP THOSE RECORDS, CONTINUE TO TELL THOSE STORIES, AND PRESERVE THE HISPANIC HERITAGE THAT WE HOLD DEAR.

MS. (NAME), WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> HELLO, AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

MY NAME IS (NAME) FALLEN WIDER. I HAVE SOME MEMBERS ALONG WITH ME -- (NAME). I BROUGHT THIS PHOTO TODAY OF MY MOTHER BECAUSE I WANTED TO SHARE HER JOURNEY.

SHE CAME TO THE US FROM ECUADOR TO LOOK FOR A BETTER LIFE.

SHE MET MY DAD AND RAISED 4 CHILDREN HERE, LOCALLY.

SHE TAUGHT US MANY THINGS. ONE OF THEM WAS TO SERVE AND HELP OUR COMMUNITY. SO WHEN WE ASKED MAYOR BOWLES AT THE TIME IF THERE WAS ANY HISPANIC ORGANIZATION AND ST.

JOHNS COUNTY THAT COULD REPRESENT ALL HISPANICS, HE SAID THERE WERE NONE.ND WE ARE GOING TO START ONE.

SO IF YOU KNOW HIM, HE'S ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. THUS BEGAN THE HISPANIC STOMACH HISPANIC HERITAGE COUNCIL OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

IT IS AN ORGANIZATION DESIGNED TO BENEFIT THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND PRESERVE ITS HERITAGE THROUGH ARTS, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY AWARENESS. THE COUNCIL WORKS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS, COMMUNITIES, COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES AND BUSINESSES SHARE OUR IDEALS THAT FOUNDED THIS GREAT COUNTY. AND DRAWS ATTENTION TO THE COUNTY'S HISPANIC COMMUNITIES IN PREPARATION FOR OUR ANNIVERSARY'S TO COME FOR THIS COUNTY.

THAT WAS FOUNDED BY HISPANICS OF AMERICA'S OLDEST CITY.

SINCE THEN, MY MOTHER HAS PASSED AWAY FROM CANCER.

BUT HER SPIRIT LIVES ON. IN FACT, SHE IS HERE TODAY SMILING ON US. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU SAFE.

[APPLAUSE] >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

[Proclamation recognizing the Language Exploration Enrichment program]

EXPIRATION ENRICHMENT PROGRAM. >> A PROCLAMATION BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA.

WHEREAS THE LANGUAGE EXPIRATION ENRICHMENT IN THESE SPANISH PROGRAM IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION ESTABLISHED IN 2003 AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND WHEREAS THE ORGANIZATION'S MISSION IS TO ENCOURAGE ALL STUDENTS TO EXPLORE WORLD LANGUAGES AND CULTURES. AND TO ALLOW DONORS TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF CHILDREN. AND WHEREAS LANGUAGE EXPIRATION ENRICHMENT OFFERS FUN INTENSIVE LANGUAGE INSTRUCTION AND TEACHES NOT ONLY GRAMMAR STRUCTURES, BUT ABOUT OTHER CULTURES UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY, CRAFTS AND MUSIC.

AND WHEREAS A LANGUAGE EXPIRATION ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS SERVE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES IN SAINT AUGUSTINE ST. JOHN'S AND JACKSONVILLE. IT'S DEDICATED TO SERVING CHILDREN THROUGH GRADES KINDERGARTEN AND 5TH TO CONTINUE TO LEARN LANGUAGES. BE A PROCLAIMED RECOGNIZE THE LANGUAGE EXPLORATION ENRICHMENT SPANISH PROGRAM FOR ITS COMMITMENT TO ENRICHING THE LIVES OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY STUDENTS. PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE ST.

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SIGNED A BRANDON PATTY, CLERKOF COURT, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA HENRY DEAN ,

CHAIRMAN. >> GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. MANY OF YOU, I KNOW COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER HAVE VISITED (INDISCERNIBLE). WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

I'M DONNA (NAME) THE DIRECTOR FOR THE PROGRAM.

I HAVE HERE WITH ME MY CO-FOUNDER, 18 YEARS AGO, DR.

(NAME) APPROACHED US. WE BECAME THE AFTERSCHOOL ENRICHMENT SPANISH CLASS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

TODAY IT IS 18 YEARS. 18 SCHOOLS LATER.

IN MY CO-FOUNDER, SHE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CURRICULUM.

SHE ALSO WAS A TEACHER FOR THE COUNTY SCHOOLS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. SO (NAME) IS GOING TO SAY A FEW

WORDS. >> GOOD MORNING.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR THIS RECOGNITION.

THANK YOU. FOR 18 YEARS, WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TEACHING OUR BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE AND CULTURE TO THE CHILDREN OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

HELPING THEM BECOME GLOBAL CITIZENS.

AND WE DO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THAT PRIVILEGE.

[APPLAUSE] >> OKAY.

[Acceptance of Proclamations]

[Public Safety Update]

>> SO MOVED. >> 2ND.

>> IVA MOTION AND A 2ND. WE WILL HAVE A VOICE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY.

WE ARE NOW READY TO GO TO OUR NEXT SCHEDULED ITEM.ITEM IS PUBLIC SAFETY PRESENTATION. A PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATE.

THE CHIEF OF OUR FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME STATS FOR NOVEMBER. WE HAD 2009 OR 12 LAST MONTH.

1904 WERE EMS CALLS. THAT'S ABOUT 14 PERCENT VOLUME WISE. WE ALSO HAD 21 RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE FIRES IN NOVEMBER.

BUT REALLY, I WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING WE WILL START NEW IN JANUARY. WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO START AN EXPLORER PROGRAM FOR AGES 14 TO 20 TO LEARN SOME LEADERSHIP SKILLS. TO LEARN ABOUT PUBLIC SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY. WE ARE HOPING AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING, JANUARY 8 AT 10 AM AT THE NEW STATION 5, AT HIGHWAY ONE S. IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED OR ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO IS INTERESTED CALL 904-209-0338.

MS. TONY. SHE WILL GET YOU SIGNED UP.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

TRUTH BE KNOWN, I STARTED AS AN EXPLORER BACK IN THE 70S.

SO IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. ANY QUESTIONS?>> QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. MAY WE HEAR FROM THE SHERIFF'S

OFFICE. >> GOOD MORNING.

SKIP (NAME) SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF SHERIFF HARDWICK.

AS WE CLOSE OUT 2021, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ST. JOHNS COUNTY PROBABLY STILL REMAINS ONE OF THE MOST SAFEST COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I THINK WE WILL FIND WHEN WE GET OUR 20 TWIN NUMBERS WE'VE HAD CRIME REDUCTIONS IN NEARLY EVERY AREA. AS WE APPROACH THE HOLIDAYS, WE WILL JUST REITERATE THE FACT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WOULD-BE CRIMINALS AND OPPORTUNISTS THAT LIKE TO SEPARATE US FROM OUR HARD EARNED MONEY. SO BEWARE OF E-COMMERCE SCAMS, PHONE SCAMS. IF SOMETHING SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS.

IF YOU GET A CALL AND YOU DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE ASKING -- IF THEY ASK YOU TO GO TO THE BANK AND GET MONEY OR GET GIFT CARDS TO SETTLE A DEBT OR SITUATION, IT'S PROBABLY NOT TRUE. CALL US.

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SO WE ARE TAKING A VERY PROGRESSIVE, PROACTIVE APPROACH. SO JUST BE MINDFUL WHEN YOU ARE OUT SHOPPING. PROTECT YOUR ITEMS AND BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION. LASTLY, AMAZON HAS TAKEN OVER THE WORLD. WE ARE ALL GETTING PILES OF GIFTS AND PRODUCTS ON OUR FRONT PORCHES.

MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO TRY TO GET THOSE THINGS OFF THE PORCHES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE IF NOT, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL COME AND TAKE THEM. WITH THAT SAID, I THINK WE'VE HAD A GREAT YEAR. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO 2022.

[Clerk of Court's Report]

WE HAVE SOME EXCITING THINGS MOVING FORWARD.

WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM CLERK OF COURT. SPEAKING TODAY IS THE DEPUTY CLERK, (NAME) WHO IS A FORMER COMMISSIONER ALSO.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR ELECTED CLERK, BRANDON PATTY. HE'S OUT OF TOWN DOING SOME MEETINGS. AS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ON THIS DATE 80 YEARS AGO AMERICA SUFFERED ONE OF THE MOST DEVASTATING ATTACKS IN OUR HISTORY. TODAY WE OBSERVE NATIONAL PEARL HARBOR REMEMBRANCE DAY. AND WE PAUSE TO REFLECT ON THE TREMENDOUS LOSS AND SACRIFICE AND COURAGE THAT DEFENDED FREEDOM IN THE WORLD. THE MIRACLE OF AMERICA IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE SELFLESS SERVICE AND DEVOTION TO A CAUSE GREATER THAN ONE'S SELF THAT IS WOVEN THROUGH THE FABRIC OF OUR COUNTRY. IN THE AFTERMATH OF THAT TRAGIC DAY, THE RESOLVE OF THE NATION WAS DISPLAYED AS MILLIONS VOLUNTEERED TO LEAVE THEIR FAMILIES (INDISCERNIBLE) FACE-TO-FACE. THAT WAS THE CASE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WITHIN A WEEK OF THE ATTACK, MORE THAN 2500 SERVICE MEMBERS ARRIVED IN SAN AUGUSTINE FOR TRAINING. PONCE DE LEON HOTEL NOW FLAGLER COLLEGE WAS TURNED INTO A BOOT CAMP.HE RESIDENTS FROM THIS COMMUNITY RAISE THEIR HANDS AND VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE.

YOU MAY RECALL LAST YEAR THE PCLERK'S OFFICE LAUNCHED OUR VIRTUAL VETERANS EXHIBIT ONLINE.THIS YEAR WE ARE RECOGNIZING AND HONORING THOSE WHO SERVED IN RESPONSE TO THE ATTACKS ON PEARL HARBOR. DR. SUSAN PARKER UPDATED THAT EXHIBIT FOR THE 80TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE ATTACK.

YOU HAVE MET SEEN OUR POSTERS. THAT'S A SAMPLE OF WHAT YOU CAN FIND ON OUR WEBSITE. CHECK OUT THE EXHIBIT, THE GREATEST GENERATON. ALSO VERY QUICKLY, SINCE 1919, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CLERK OF COURTS HAS TAKEN VETERANS DISCHARGE PAPERS AND RECORDED THEM INTO RECORD.

WE INVITE ALL VETERANS TO RECORD THEIR DISCHARGE DOCUMENTS. IT'S QUICK.

IT'S EASY. IT'S FREE.

IT PRESERVES YOUR RECORD FOREVER.

IT MAKES IT EASY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES TO ACCESS THOSE RECORDS. AND IT'S PROTECTED FOR 62 YEARS. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT.>> BEFORE WE TAKE UP THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WANT TO BRIEFLY ADD MY $0.02 TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT DECEMBER 7. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NEXT WEEK, DECEMBER 15, MARKS THE ANNIVERSARY OF OUR BILL OF RIGHTS. AND AS PATRICK ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. AND I THINK THE BEDROCK, THE VERY BEDROCK OF THAT, IS THE BILL OF RIGHTS.

WHICH WAS RATIFIED ON DECEMBER 15.N RECOGNIZING THE BILL OF RIGHTS, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY, BECAUSE I COULD SPEAK AND A HALF AN HOUR ABOUT IT, JUST THINK ABOUT FOR A MOMENT THAT ANYONE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CHOOSES CAN COME UP HERE AND PRETTY MUCH BLESS US OUT. CALL US ANY NAME IN THE BOOK -- WHEN IN:WITHIN REASON. BUT THINK ABOUT THAT.

TRY THAT IN MOSCOW OR HAVANA. OR VENEZUELA.

OR NORTH KOREA. OR IRAQ OR IRAN.HINK ABOUT WHAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED FOR 2ND.

IN THE OTHER 9 RIGHTS THAT ARE ENUNCIATED IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS. SO WITH THAT SAID, I HOPE ALL OF US CAN APPRECIATE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SERVED, FOUGHT AND

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[Deletions to Consent Agenda]

AND WE WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

ANY DELETIONS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> NONE. >> JEREMIAH, ARE YOU WITH US?

ANY DELETIONS? >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

NONE. >> ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE NONE. NOW, BEFORE WE TAKE UP THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THIS IS THE TIME THAT YOU WILL SPEAK. WE HAVE THE 3 MINUTE TIME PERIOD PER SPEAKER. AND WE WILL ADD YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE RECORD. PATRICK, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT?

>> YES, I DO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THIS IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BEFORE MR. SLAVEN SPEAKS, IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, I WILL BE PROPOSING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE FOR ITEMS FOR THE BOARD TO CONTINUE. AND I WAS THINKING IT MAY BE EFFICIENT, SEEING HOW THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS A CANOPY SHORES MAJOR MOD AND ITEMS 9, 10 AND 11 WHICH RELATES TO ST. JOHN'S EASE, I WILL ASK THE BOARD CONTINUE EACH OF THOSE. SO IF THERE IS ANYBODY HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE, THE BOARD COULD ALLOW ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE AT

THIS TIME AS WELL. >> WOULD YOU READ THOSE AGAIN,

PLEASE? >> YES, SIR.

IT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS THE MAJOR MOD FOR CANOPY SHORES. AND ITEMS 9, 10 AND 11 WHICH PERTAIN TO THE ST. JOHN'S COMMERCE EAST PROJECT.

>> OKAY. SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, NOW IS THE TIME TO SPEAK.

MR. SLAVEN, GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

AT SLAVEN. FIRST OF ALL, RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT, I WOULD SIMPLY NOTE THAT TOO OFTEN, THE BCC WILL DELETE ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA WHILE THE PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS. THEY ARE BUSY PEOPLE.

THEY ARE BUSY WORKING, GOLFING OR RAISING THEIR KIDS.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE TREATED THAT WAY.

IF AN ITEM IS GOING TO BE DELETED FROM THE AGENDA, THERE SHOULD BE NOTICE ON THE BCC WEBSITE IN THE FUTURE.

ALSO, THE CLERK OF COURT REPORT IS INCOMPLETE.

IN THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHICH COMPANIES -- THIS COUNTY INVESTED IN. THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY INFORMATION YET. FINALLY, THERE HAS BEEN A PROBLEM. I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR A NUMBER OF MEETINGS.

WITH THE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE, WHERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO CLICK AND READ THE BACKUP MATERIAL? IT'S NOT THERE. THE AGENDAS WEREN'T EVEN IN THE VESTIBULE UNTIL 20 MINUTES BEFORE THIS MEETING.

IN THE BOOK WASN'T THERE EITHER.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONTINUE ALL THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR LACK OF DUE PROCESS NOTICE.

WHEN THE LINKS DON'T WORK AND THE STAFF REPEATEDLY IGNORES THE REQUESTS OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE THOSE LINKS WORK SO YOU CAN CLICK AND READ THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL, THAT'S NOT DUE PROCESS. THAT'S NOT DEMOCRACY.

I SUGGEST WE (INDISCERNIBLE). AND I THINK MR. MCCORMACK AGAIN FOR HIS SERVICE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE?

>> JOHN STEAD WILL, 325 (NAME) LANE.

I AM A RETIRED STATE TROOPER AND ALSO A VETERAN OF 3 OF OUR ARMED SERVICES. I'M HERE TO TALK TO THE PROPOSED TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT UP BY US ONE NORTH. I WAS UNAWARE OF THIS UNTIL RECENTLY I HAD NO NOTICE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO IS 1, THE (INDISCERNIBLE) US ONE NORTH INTERSECTION IS ALREADY AN ACCIDENT LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO HAPPEN.

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THE TRAFFIC ON US ONE AND THAT AREA RUNS BETWEEN 70 AND 80 MILES PER HOUR. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO PUT 200 ANDSOME ODD HOMES IN THAT AREA, WHICH IS GOING TO CREATE MORE OF A PROBLEM AT STOKES LANDING AND US ONE.

BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE PRIMARY TURNAROUND.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT DUANE (NAME) AND I HAVE TALKED.

HE HAS SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT AS OF LAST THURSDAY HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CHECK WITH HIM SINCE. A FEW OF MY CONCERNS.

THE TOTAL AREA OF WETLAND ON SAID PROPERTY AND HOW MANY SURVEYS WERE DONE TO DETERMINE PROPOSED USAGE.

BY THE LOOKS OF THE SATELLITE IMAGES IT APPEARS THE WET AREA IS LARGER THAN WHAT IS BEING CITED.

DRAINAGE. THERE IS A FLOODWAY AND ESTUARIES OWNER ON THIS PROPERTY THAT I UNDERSTAND BY LAW SHOULDN'T BE TOUCH. ATOUCH.

RUN OFF TO THE EAST WILL CAUSE ISSUES FOR THE RESIDENTS AND PROBLEMS WITH THEIR WELLS AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. IN A ST. JOHNS COUNTY APPLICATION SUBMITTAL REPORT REVIEWED ON AUGUST 3 OF 21, WORDS LIKE SEVERAL DESIGN FEATURES SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT DIFFERED BY LOCAL STANDARDS.

NOT TO STANDARD. APPLICANT NOW SWITCHED.

STEAD CANNOT APPROVE. STAFF HAS SOME CONCERNS.TAFF STILL HAS SOME CONCERNS. AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT QUESTIONS AND THIS PROPOSED SITE.

AS THE AFORESAID REMARKS ON THE 3 PAGE REPORT DATED ON THE 3RD REGARDING THIS PROJECT HAVE NO ANSWERS OR RESOLUTIONS THAT I AM AWARE OF, I WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATIVE TO GET SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS. SO FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN WHAT I HAVE PROPOSED HERE AND TALKED ABOUT, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION DENIED THIS PROJECT JUST BECAUSE WE ARE IN A RURAL AREA THAT SHOULD REMAIN RURAL.

FOR OUR PEACE AND HAPPINESS OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LONG-TERM INDIVIDUALS THERE. THANK YOU MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I'M ASSUMING THIS GENTLEMAN WAS REFERENCING ITEM NUMBER 4. ARE WE GOING TO RELITIGATE THIS ITEM? THE APPROVAL OF THESE TOWNHOMES? WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE

APPROVED BACK IN MAY I BELIEVE? >> THIS PROJECT, GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.

IT CAME TO US LAST ME FOR APPROVAL FOR 286 HOMES.

WE APPROVED THAT. THE ISSUE IS OVER.

THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO REVERSE THAT.

IT'S DONE. SO THIS PARTICULAR STOKES LANDING PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED AS OF LAST MAY FOR 286 APARTMENT UNITS.O WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS PROPORTIONATE SHARE -- WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S PORTION OF SHARE. WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN IS THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING:MISUNDER STANDINGS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT ISSUE HAD BEEN ADDRESSED PROPORTIONATE SHARE. THE APPLICANT CAME BACK AND WANTED TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO 320, I BELIEVE.

AND AFTER LENGTHY DISCUSSION AND HEARINGS, THAT WAS WITHDRAWN. BUT NOW THEY ARE BACK WITH PROPORTIONATE SHARE REQUEST. THAT THE ACTUAL REZONING THAT WE HEARD LAST MAY, WE APPROVED THIS IS ENTITLED -- THE PROJECT.OR BETTER OR WORSE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

PATRICK, HAVE I SPOKEN CORRECTLY?

>> YOU HAVE CORRECTLY DESCRIBED THAT.

ITEM NUMBER 4 IS THE STOKES LANDING PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE. IT'S LARGELY A MECHANICALLY NUMBERCRUNCHING TYPE OF THING. TO PROVIDE FOR THAT SHARE FOR THEIR IMPACT. BUT THE ZONING DECISION WAS MADE LAST WAY. THERE WAS NO APPEAL TO THAT.

>> LET ME SAY THIS, AS CHAIRMAN, IT'S MY DECISION THAT I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE IN 15 MINUTES GO TALK ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THEN DENY YOU THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING.

I HAVE ALL DAY. SO ANHO WANTS TO THIS ISSUE FOR 3 MINUTES, I'M GOING TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN.

EVEN THOUGH I TRIED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

IT'S A NARROW ISSUE INVOLVING PROPORTIONATE SHARE, NOT A REZONING CONSIDERATION. SO, EVERYBODY FOLLOW THAT?

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PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. AND I WANT TO SET THE STAGE OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. YOU ARE NEXT, MA'AM.

>> I'VE NEVER STOOD HERE BEFORE.

SO IF I'M NOT PUTTING THINGS CORRECTLY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> (NAME). SORRY! 3 MINUTES IS SHORT. FOR SOMEONE APOLOGIZE TO YOU GUYS. WHEN I FIRST CAME AND WAS AWARE OF STOKES LANDING WHICH WAS ONLY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I WAS FURIOUS THAT AN INTELLIGENT GENTLEMAN WITH YOUR BACKGROUND APPROVE THIS. BUT THEN I REALIZED YOU'RE ONLY GIVING THIS MUCH INFORMATION AND MISINFORMATION.

OF COURSE YOU ARE GOING TO APPROVE IT.

(INDISCERNIBLE) THERE ARE MANY DISCREPANCIES.

IN SEPTEMBER IT SAID 28 ACRES. APPLICATION SAYS 38.6.

AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEYOR SAYS IT'S 32.9.

THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE PARCEL OF LAND WE ARE DISCUSSING.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WETLANDS? BIOTECH SAYS 8.34. AND THE NEXT PAGE SAYS 7.22.

THE DEVELOPER SAYS 1.49 ACRES. THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT IS (INDISCERNIBLE) WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WETLANDS THAT YOU CAN NEVER GET BACK. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACCURACY OF THE INFORMATION YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN, AND HERE IS YOUR MAP FROM THE COUNTY. THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE THAT HAS BEEN DEEMED WETLAND SIZE ON THE MAP 3.8 ACRES.

THE DEVELOPER SAYS THEY HAVE 1.49 ACRES OF WETLANDS ON THIS LAND. THAT'S NOT NEW MATH, THAT'S NOT COMMON CORE AND THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH.

AND CONCERNING THE NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE.

(NAME) SAID 10 AND NOT 13. BUT IF THEY DO 10 ON 8 ACRES IT DOESN'T COME NEAR 86 UNITS. IF YOU BUMP THEM UP TO 13, IT STILL DOESN'T GET TO 286. SOME IN A SAY THE STRAIGHT OUT LOUD -- I THINK WE ARE BEING PLAYED.

MR. WALDRON, IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS HERE, I THINK IT WAS IN ME. YOU SAID A BRILLIANT THING.

YOU SAID THIS COMPANY THAT IS BUILDING THE TOWNHOMES ON STOKES LANDING IS ALSO DOING RAVENSWOOD, WHICH IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL. YOU SAID SOMETHING SO LOGICAL.

HE SAID WHY DON'T WE JUST SLOW DOWN AND LET'S SEE HOW RAVENSWOOD GOES AND SEE (INDISCERNIBLE).

THAT IT GOT OVERRULED. AND EVERYBODY APPROVED IT.

MR. (NAME) SAID HE WOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED THE TOWN HALL HOMES OF THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T SHOW UP ON MAY 4. BUT THERE WERE NO SIGNS. OKAY? SO LET'S DO SOME INACCURACIES. WE KNOW THE WETLANDS ARE WRONG AND WE KNOW THE DEVELOPER IS ACKNOWLEDGING THE WETLANDS ARE WRONG. YOU SEE THIS? THAT'S ALL THE WETLANDS. YOU SEE HOW THEY CAREFULLY GO

AROUND THE WETLANDS? >> YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S YOUR 3 MINUTES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER FOR CONSENT

AGENDA. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS BETSY LEARY AND I OWN PROPERTY ON STOKES LANDING.

I LIVE IN VALENCIA. AND I'M TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED ON THIS ISSUE. SO AM I CORRECT THAT THE ONLY WAY THIS PROJECT CAN BE STOPPED IS IF DOT DENIES A PERMIT?

IS THAT CORRECT? >> I'M NOT SURE.

>> ISN'T THAT CORRECT? >> I'M NOT SURE.

>> EXCUSE ME --

>> THE ISSUE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE ISSUE IS, DOT -- THE STUDY USED FOR THIS TRAFFIC PATTERN WAS 2018.

AND TRAFFIC HAS SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED AS YOU ARE ALL WELL AWARE OF. AND OF 286 TOWNHOMES ARE GOING TO USE THE SAME MEDIAN THAT EVERYBODY AT STOKES LANDING USES, I MEAN, IT'S A NIGHTMARE NOW.

I ACTUALLY GO THROUGH CROMWELL'S DOMINIC CROMWELL'S PARKING LOT TO TAKE A RIGHT. IT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING.

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IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ISN'T A MASTER PLAN.

AND I'VE OWNED INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL IN THE TWIN CITIES FOR MANY YEARS. IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE THE BOARD JUST AMENDS THE MASTER PLAN. AND FROM TIME TO TIME.

BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DEATHS AT THAT INTERSECTION.

THERE IS NO WAY 286 TOWNHOMES AND THEIR OCCUPANTS ARE GOING TO USE THE SAME MEDIAN. I GUESS AT THIS POINT, WE SHOULD BE TALKING TO THE DOT TO TRY AND HAVE THEM UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF APPROVING THAT.

I GUESS, IT'S NOT WORTH DISCUSSING ANYTHING ELSE.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M NOT SAYING THIS LIGHTLY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY AGENDA ITEM ON HERE GETS APPROVED THAT'S A DEVELOPER. HAVE YOU GUYS EVER SAID NO TO ANYBODY SO FAR? WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HOTEL

(INDISCERNIBLE)? >> YES, WE'VE SAID NO A NUMBER OF TIMES. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME THIS MORNING, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET WITH YOU LATER TO GO OVER A LIST OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE DENIED.

>> INCLUDING SOME VERY BIG TICKET ITEMS.

>> SO CAN THE DOT, IF THE DOT DOESN'T --

>> I ACTUALLY CAUGHT ON YOU, PATRICK.

SO HER QUESTION, I BELIEVE, IS THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS PROJECT WAS TO GET THE OT TO DENY THE PERMIT? DID I STATE THAT CORRECTLY, MA'AM?

>> IT WAS MADE IN A 2018 STUDY, WHICH IS NO LONGER VALID.

BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ON US ONE.

>> THAT IS 3 MINUTES. MAYBE DO SIDEBAR AND PERHAPS THEY CAN GIVE YOU AN ANSWER WHETHER IT'S NOW OR THROUGH

EMAIL. >> (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> THIS ISN'T THE FORM FOR Q&A. WE ARE DOING PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> AND I THINK THE VICE CHAIR IS ON THE RIGHT POINT ON THIS.

EVEN FOR THE 2 PREVIOUS COMMENTERS, THEY MADE SOME COMMENTS -- STAFF WILL WORK WITH OUR OFFICE AND GO OVER SOME OF THE MERITS OF THOSE. WHETHER HOW MUCH OF THAT IS A CONCERN AND IF SOME ISSUES NEED TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNTY. BUT THAT'S HOW IT WILL HAPPEN.

MADAME, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I THINK YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH STAFF. SENDIT IN AN EMAIL.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER.

>> MICHELLE (NAME) . I JUST WANT TO THINK COMMISSIONER BLOCKER FOR MEETING WITH US AT THE LIBRARY.

WE JUST FELT THAT HE REALLY LISTENED TO OUR CONCERNS.

AND WE RAISED A LOT OF ISSUES THAT PUBLIC SPEAKERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT. HE GENEROUSLY OFFERED TO HELP US GET ALL THE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THIS TOWNHOME PROJECT. AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, WHEN YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, YOU CLICK AND YOU CAN'T GET ALL THE NOTES IN THE COMMENTS. YOU JUST FEEL LIKE THERE ARE GAPS. WE ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP AS A COMMUNITY AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THE GAPS ARE.

WHERE THE ISSUES MIGHT BE. SO I CAME WITH WANTING TO SHARE MAPS AND HOW BUSY US ONE HAS GOTTEN.

IN THIS STUDY THAT THE DEVELOPER CONTINUES TO POINT TO, THAT THE DATA PULLED FROM 2018 WAS UPDATED APPARENTLY IN 2020. AT THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC.

AND WE MENTIONED ALL OF THIS TO PCOMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

I HAD TO STOP AND PAUSE BECAUSE I WAS LISTENING TO THE BEAUTIFUL PRAYER THIS MORNING. WE WERE LOOKING FOR WISDOM, COMMON SENSE AND UNITY. THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT.

SAFETY FOR OUR FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. WE HAVE 300 HOMES GOING IN.

CHASE WOODS JUST WENT IN. THE LANDING AT SAINT AUGUSTINE PHASE 2 -- THESE OF ALL HAPPEN OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

AND HOW YOU ARE LOOKING AT A STUDY THAT HAS BEEN PULLING DATA FROM A FEW YEARS AGO AND TO SAY TO THE RESIDENTS IT'S FINE.E DON'T NEED A LIGHT THERE.

WE DON'T NEED A SPECIAL ENTRANCE THAT WILL HAVE OVER 550+ NEW VEHICLES COMING TO JACKSONVILLE.

AND COMING INTO TOWN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR COMMON SENSE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR TIME TO READDRESS THIS.

WE KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF GROWTH.

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I JUST DON'T SEE THE MANAGEMENT (LAUGHING).

YOU ARE HEARING US, BUT PLEASE, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN.

MY ELDERLY PARENTS WILL NOT USE THAT INTERSECTION TO COME TO MY HOME ON STOKES LANDING TODAY. THEY USE WHITE CASTLE BECAUSE THERE ARE ACCIDENTS AND IT'S DANGEROUS.

THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING. I DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE MATERIALS UP HERE AND GO OVER MORE DETAILS.

WE ARE JUST ASKING PLEASE LISTEN TO US.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

NAME AND ADDRESS? >> BJ (NAME) SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THE STOKES LANDING FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED. ACCORDING TO AN EMAIL DATED DECEMBER 2, 2021, THE PLAN SUBMITTED TO FDOT ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE PLANS AND ARE CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED.

ON PAGE 2 OF YOUR PACKET, THE FAIR SHARE COST TO THE DEVELOPER IS $203,228. THIS IS CALCULATED ON THE OCTOBER 1, 2020 FEE SCHEDULE WHICH IS OBSOLETE SINCE THE OCTOBER 1, 2021 BUDGET FEE SCHEDULE SHOULD INCREASE WHAT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD PAY SINCE COSTS HAVE INCREASED.

ON PAGE 3, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS FOR 286 UNITS.

NOT 312. THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.

AT ON OCTOBER 19, 2021, THE DEVELOPER TOLD ME AT THIS MEETING THEY HAVE TO HAVE 312 UNITS.

THIS BOARD AGREED TO 286 PERIOD.

ON PAGE 3, THE TOTAL COST SHOULD SHOW $10,922,824, NOT 825, TO IMPROVE DEFICIENT ROADWAYS SPECIFICALLY TO INTERNATIONAL GUF PAKWAY, NOT HIGHWAY US ONE.

THIS SHOULD BE CORRECTED ON PAGE 15 ALSO.

ON FEBRUARY 4, 2019, MR. OSCAR RIKER WAS KILLED BY A DRUNK DRIVER AS HE TURNED INTO STOKES LANDING ROAD.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE WRONG PLACE.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE WRONG PLACE.

THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON HIGHWAY ONE WILL NOT IMPROVE THE SAFETY, HEALTH OR WELFARE OF RESIDENTS LIVING IN THIS LONG ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD OR THOSE TRAVELING HIGHWAY ONE. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT PROVIDE WORLD-CLASS LIVING. THAT IS ONE OF OUR GOALS IN THIS COUNTY. A SCHEDULED MEETING BY THE DEVELOPER WITH RESIDENTS ON NOVEMBER 4 TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS, 2021, FOR 6 PM WAS CANCELED -- WAS CANCELED ON THE RESIDENCE AT 3 PM THAT DAY. NOW, THE DEVELOPER CAN GET UP HERE AND CRY WHENEVER SHE IS TALKING ABOUT MR. MCCORMACK.

I'M NOT GOING TO CRY ABOUT PRESENTING THE FACTS TO YOU ALL. IF YOU APPROVE THIS TODAY AND WHATEVER GOES IN UP THERE, YOU WILL TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY -- AND I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD FAIRLY AND ACCURATELY BY THIS DEVELOPER -- IN THESE MEETINGS WHEN QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED, BUT THE TRUTH IS ABOUT THIS.

AND I DON'T THINK THEY ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> TOM GEORGE, DEERFIELD ROAD. GOOD MORNING.

NOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN PUT ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE -- THAT Y'ALL GO THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK. AND TALK -- ENGINEERING.

ALKING ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING WHERE IT DOESN'T BELONG. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TO TOUCH THAT PROPERTY.

NOR HAVE BOOTS BEEN ON THE GROUND FOR LAND MANAGEMENT USE.

HEY DO NOT HAVE A PERMIT. SO THIS HASN'T BEEN APPROVED BY THE STATE AND IT'S MADE IT THIS FAR.

THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. COMMON SENSE.

DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT? COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, I KNOW YOU DO. TO THE REST OF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? THE QUESTION THAT THE LADY ASKED EARLIER, THE DOT -- THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO STOP THIS? THE ANSWER IS, NO, I'M GOING TO STOP IT. BECAUSE I'M DRAWING (INDISCERNIBLE) WELLS ALL ALONG THE EAST OF THIS PROJECT.

AND I'M GOING TO APPROVE IT WILL AFFECT SANDY PINES SUBDIVISION WATER QUALITY, GROUNDWATER QUALITY.

AND ALSO PROVE THAT THERE IS MORE WETLAND THERE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING THERE IS. NOW THE ST. JOHN'S BOARD OF MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS NOT GOTTEN BOOTS ON THE GROUND THERE. WHY? ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE? THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A LAND USE

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THAT'S THE NUMBER 1 THING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST.

NOT LAST. AND I THINK YOU COMMISSIONERS KNOW -- COMMISSIONER DEAN, YOU KNOW WHO I AM.

(INDISCERNIBLE)? >> I WON'T COMMENT ON

CORRECTNESS OR INCORRECTNESS. >> I HAVE NEVER BEEN DISPUTED

OR DENIED --. >> YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED TO MISLEAD ME OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS.

I'LL SAY THAT. >> THERE YOU GO! I'M STRAIGHT UP ABOUT THE COMMON SENSE.

AND AS FAR AS WETLANDS ARE CONCERNED, THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT. SANDY PINES IS ALL WELL WATER.

THEY'RE ALL ON SEPTIC TANKS. (INDISCERNIBLE) THE WATER TABLE? IT'S GOING TO FLOOD THAT

NEIGHBOR OOD OUT. >> THANK YOU.

THAT'S 3 MINUTES. >> I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO STOP THIS.

>> THANK YOU. >> IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT INTO THE RECORD? THE OBITUARY PICTURE?

>> SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT YOUR ITEMS INTO THE LEGAL

RECORD? >> MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROBERT (NAME).

I CAME HERE 2 MONTHS AGO INTENDING TO SPEAK WITH REGARD TO ITEM 3 ON THE AGENDA TODAY. I CAME HERE AGAIN TO SPEAK TODAY AND IT'S BEING GRANTED A CONTINUANCE OR SOMETHING ELSE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING (INDISCERNIBLE)? SO I CAN DECIDE WHAT TO DO NEXT? IS IT A CONTINUANCE OR A (INDISCERNIBLE)?

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ITEM WILL BE CONTINUED.

>> ANOTHER CONTINUANCE? >> FOR WHATEVER REASON, I'M NOT

SURE. >> MR. CHAIR, I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION FROM THE CONSTITUENT.

>> CHRISTINE (NAME) SENIOR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY.

YOU MAY RECALL THIS ITEM INVOLVES A POTENTIAL DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE DECLARATION AND COVENANTS OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND PROPERTY OWNERS REQUEST TO CHANGE THE LAND USE FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HIRED AN ATTORNEY TO REVIEW THE DEED RESTRICTION ISSUE.

AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL TIME TO REVIEW THAT MATTER AND POTENTIALLY RESOLVE IT. SO THEIR REQUEST IS FOR AN INDEFINITE CONTINUANCE . IF AND WHEN THE ITEM COMES

BACK, IT WILL BE RE-ADVERTISED. >> THAT'S HELPFUL, I THINK I WILL BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS (INDISCERNIBLE) THAT STATES THIS BOARD CANNOT SUPPORT OR PROOF (INDISCERNIBLE). ALSO, SOMETHING WE WERE HEARING JUST THE OTHER DAY -- JUST YESTERDAY, IN FACT.

THE COUNTY ORDINANCE (INDISCERNIBLE) AND ST.

AUGUSTINE SHORES SERVICE CORPORATION ALSO SEEM TO INDICATE THEY CANNOT CHANGE THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.

SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO REVIEW THOSE AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

YES, SIR? >> WAYNE (NAME) STOKES LANDING ROAD. I'LL MAKE THIS VERY BRIEF.

I'VE SPOKEN OVER THE LAST 2 OR 3 WEEKS WITH MS. FISHER, THE DOT PERSON. SPOKE AT LENGTH FIRST ASKING WHY NOT DO A CUT THROUGH SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN STOKES ROAD? I SAID WHAT ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT? IT'S TOO COSTLY.

A TRAFFIC LIGHT, IF WE ARE STUCK WITH THIS, OBVIOUSLY I HAVE A FEELING FROM YOU GUYS WE ARE STUCK WITH THIS.

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A TRAFFIC LIGHT WOULD AT LEAST STOP THE TRAFFIC SO WE COULD DO A U-TURN. TO GET OVER 2 LANES INTO WHAT TURNED TO MAKE A U-TURN LANE. IT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE DEVELOPER. THEY HAVE YET TO ADDRESS THAT.

AGAIN, I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. WE NEED A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

HAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN GET FROM YOU GUYS OR THE DOT.

THAT'S THE MINIMUM I THINK YOU SHOULD ACCEPT TO GET THIS PROJECT FINALIZED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> HI BETH (NAME) JACKSONVILLE.

I'M ABOUT CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 4. I WENT TO STATE ON THE RECORD, BOTH THE DEP AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT HAVE HAD BOOTS ON THE GROUND. THEY'VE ACCEPTED THE WETLAND LINES AND MY PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED ANY DAY.

THE ONLY THING I'M WAITING ON IS MY MITIGATION CREDITS AND THAT'S BEING FINALIZED NOW. AS FAR AS THE FEAR OF FLOODING, GEMINI ENGINEERING HAS BEEN DOING ALL THE WORK AND THAT SHOULD BE TURNED IN IN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS.

WE MEET ALL THE CRITERIA SO WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT ISSUE.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, AND JEFF (NAME) IS HERE TO THIS AS WELL.

SO WE MET WITH DOT AFTER WE HEARD EVERYONE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF INTERSECTION. I SENT TO EACH OF YOU THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE AND COMPLETED IN FEBRUARY 2020.

THE FIRST 6 ITEMS WERE COMPLETED BY DOT DURING THEIR ROAD BY WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.ONE BIG TICKET ITEM THAT THEY HAD IS THEY CALL IT A LOOP SYSTEM.

WHAT IT DOES IS IT PUTS A PULLOUT THAT HAS A FLASHING LIGHT THAT CAN BE ATTACHED TO IT.

SO WHEN SOMEONE PULLS OUT OF STOKES LANDING ROAD AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO COME ONTO US ONE, IT WOULD SEND A SIGNAL TO BOTH NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC SINGLE WARNING, INCOMING TRAFFIC, SLOW DOWN.

[LAUGHTER]

[APPLAUSE] >> I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE MODERATE YOURSELVES. THANK YOU.

>> AS YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT DOT ALLOWS US TO DO.

SO IN THEIR STUDY THAT'S WHAT THEY INDICATE.

THEY SAID IT'S OVER 150,000. OUR SHARE IS OVER 200.

THEY SAID THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE STOP IF THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO DO IT YEARLY THEY WILL REIMBURSE YOU. THEY SAY THEY ARE TO HAVE THAT AGREEMENT ON OTHER PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S THE BEST THAT I CAN -- THAT I KNOW. I CAME FROM DOT AND IS IN THE STUDY. AND JEFF NAME IS HERE AND HE WAS ON THE CALL WITH US AS WELL.

SO THIS IS THE NEXT STOP THE NEXT STEP.

AND IF THIS DOESN'T WORK, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A STRONG ARGUMENT FOR THE LIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> LET'S BE CIVIL. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS DONNA (NAME) CROOKED CREEK LANE.

AND WHEN THE SURVEYORS WERE OUT HERE ON THIS PROPERTY BEHIND ME, IT TOOK HER A LONG TIME TO WADE THROUGH ALL THE WETLAND TO SURVEY IT. SHE SAID TWO THIRDS OF THAT PROPERTY WAS WETLAND. WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR LAND. WHICH I DO NOT WANT TO SEE MY NEIGHBORS OR ME LOOSE OUR WELLS, OUR SUBJECTS, OUR LAND FROM THE WATER THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THE RUNOFF.

ON TOP OF THAT, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

I GREW UP HERE. AND I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT. SO MUCH LAND THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE PROTECTED BY WHAT WE CALL ST. JOHNS COUNTY, OUR WETLANDS BEING FILLED IN. TURTLES, OTTERS, EVERYTHING BEING DESTROYED. NO GOPHERS ARE PROTECTED.

NONE OF THE WILDLIFE IS PROTECTED.

IT'S ALL DESTROYED BY THESE DEVELOPERS.

WE SHOULD PUT A LAND TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTIES AND LAND THAT IS OPEN TO CREATURES OF THIS EARTH.O PROTECT THEM WHILE WE DEVELOP INSTEAD OF DESTROYING ALL THE NATURAL LAND AROUND US. OUR ENVIRONMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, AS AMERICAN PEOPLE, TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN US TO PROTECT.NSTEAD OF DESTROYING EVERYTHING HE HAS GIVEN US JUST TO DEVELOP AND MAKE MORE LAND FOR PEOPLE TO DESTROY. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY WE NEED TO CONSIDER ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE GOING AROUND US. BECAUSE WE ARE DESTROYING SO MUCH OF WHAT IS AROUND US. WITH THIS GROWTH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THE GROWTH HAS TO (INDISCERNIBLE) ON THIS

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>> THANK YOU. >> MORNING.

LEROY (NAME). STOKES LANDING ROAD.

I ALSO OWN 161 STOKES LANDING ROAD, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 5 ACRES ABUTTED TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

I DO HAVE A FEW CONCERNS. IT'S COME TO LIGHT AFTER ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TO ABOUT THE WETLANDS MITIGATION OF THE WETLAND. AND WHERE IS WATER GOING TO GO? I WAS TOLD IN MANY OF THESE MEETINGS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE RAISED IN THE BACK. WHICH IS ABUTTED TO MY PROPERTY. I'M BEING TOLD THAT DOT SAYS UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL BE TRAINED TO US ONE, UNTO THEIR DITCHES.HAT'S A CONCERN TO ME -- WHERE IS THE WATER GOING TO GO? IS IT GOING TO FLOOD ME OUT? THE MEETING THAT WAS CANCELED THAT EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT, ON THE AGENDA WAS TALKING ABOUT COMING TO STOKES ROAD AND MAKING A RIGHT TURN. WITH ME BEING A COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN WITH COMMERCIAL BOATS, IF YOU WILL REMEMBER BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THERE IS A CIRCLE K BY THE AIRPORT THAT THIS WAS DONE TO. I TRIED TO MAKE THAT U-TURN.

AND THE END RESULTS OF TRYING TO PINCH THE BOAT OFF -- IT DOES NOT TURN LIKE A SEMI TRAILER.

I IN RETURN BROKE AN AXLE BY MAKING THAT TURN.

THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY YOU CAN TAKE A COMMERCIAL BOAT, WHICH I HAVE TO, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN THAT LIVE ON STOKES ROAD THAT CANNOT POSSIBLY MAKE A U-TURN ONTO US ONE. THEREFORE, WE HAVE TO GO AROUND. GO DOWN TO WHITE CASTLE TO COME OUT. GOING THROUGH A COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE 286 HAS BEEN APPROVED. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THIS MOVES FORWARD.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

RECORD. >> YES, MY NAME IS WILLIAM FISHER, 10130 MCMAHON AVENUE. MY CONCERN IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT STOKES LANDING.

BUT IN DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL. IF WE DON'T GET A HANDLE ON THESE DEVELOPERS PRETTY SOON, THE FARMERS ARE GOING TO BE GONE. THERE WILL BE NO MORE FARMS. SOME OF THEM ARE FOR SALE AT THIS TIME DOWN OFF OF 207.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ONE.

I'VE GOT MY OWN PLACE. IN GENERAL, PEOPLE SAY SEPTIC TANKS AND WELLS. ALL RIGHT.

IN FLAGLER STATES, WE HAVE INSURED DOMINIC ISSUED OVER THOUSAND PERMITS THIS YEAR. OUT THERE, THERE IS NO CITY WATER AND NO SEWERS. YOU HAVE A WELL AND A SEPTIC TANK. THE WELL IS 50 FEET FROM THE DRAIN FIELD FROM NEAR SEPTIC TANK.

WHERE'S THE WATER GOING?OWN IN THE GROUND.

WHERE IS A COMING OUT OF? OUT OF THE GROUND.

WE HAVE TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON CONSENT

AGENDA? >> (NAME).

AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

THERE IS NO PERMIT AS A 4:00 YESTERDAY.

THIS IS WHAT MS. (NAME) WAS TALKING ABOUT?

SPEWING OUT OF HER MOUTH? >> MR. JORDAN --.

YES, MA'AM? >> (NAME) SORRY.

THE TOTAL PROPORTIONATE FAIR PSHARE HAS BEEN REVISED BASED O THE 286 UNITS. 114 OF THOSE UNITS WERE SOLD FOR (INDISCERNIBLE) AND THE OTHER UNITS AROUND $300,000 WITH THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE COST CALCULATED -- I HAD THE WRONG AMOUNT. I HAD 20 7000 AND IT'S OVER 203,000 FOR THE TOWNHOUSES. THAT'S ROUGHLY (INDISCERNIBLE) PER UNIT. THE CALCULATOR PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AT THIS AMOUNT, AT THE 203,000 IS LESS THAN 2 PERCENT OF THE OVER $10 MILLION DEFICIT THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR

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SO FOR THAT REASON, I OPPOSE THAT THIS PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE DUE TO THE LOCATION -- I OPPOSE THIS PFS FOR THE LOCATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EXIST OR OCCUR WITHOUT CONFLICTS OF SURROUNDINGS IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC. IT WILL CREATE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OR NUISANCES DUE TO THE DANGEROUS TRAFFIC PATTERNS FOR THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, FOR THOUSANDS OF TRAVELERS ON US ONE AND OTHER FAMILIES THAT RESIDE AT THE TOWNHOMES.I THINK THIS AMOUNT, FOR THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE, PERHAPS THIS CAN'T BE (INDISCERNIBLE). BUT I THINK LIVING HERE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY, WE ARE GIVING THIS AWAY.

LET'S START ASKING FOR THE FAIR SHARE.

FOR WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE MAKING FROM THIS.

THEY ARE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE LAND.

SO ST. JOHNS COUNTY IS A GREAT PLACE.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD START CHARGING FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

IT'S WORTH MORE, I THINK, THAN WHAT WE ARE CHARGING FOR.

SO FOR THAT REASON I OPPOSE THIS PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE

AGREEMENT TODAY. >> THANK YOU.

WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> MY NAME IS WENDY HILL. I LIVE IN THE SHORES COMMUNITY.

I'M ACTUALLY SPEAKING ON NUMBER 3, CANOPY SHORES.I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A FEW CONCERNS AND COMMENTS.

I APOLOGIZE FOR SOME IGNORANCE BECAUSE (INDISCERNIBLE).

MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY INTEND TO PUT HERE I THINK IS MARGINAL. I THINK EVERYONE AGREES IT'S MARGINAL LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE 2.8 ACRE STRIPS.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE SPECIAL (INDISCERNIBLE).

WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY IS. AND THEY COULDN'T BUILD IN THERE UNLESS YOU GRANTED THIS. IN MY CONCERN SUCH AS THE SHARED DRIVEWAYS IN THE PUMPING STATION FOR THE SEWAGE? ONCE YOU APPROVE THAT, DOES THAT MEAN ALL THE OTHER HOUSES WILL GO IN AFTER THIS -- ARE THEY GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS ALSO?O WILL HAVE A BUNCH OF SHARED DRIVEWAYS -- GRAPPLED DRIVEWAYS WITH LIFT PUMPING STATIONS? I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT. THAT WOULD CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF WHERE I LIVE. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY. I GO UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK FOR YEARS. I ENJOY IT.

THAT'S ONE OF MY ISSUES.HE LAND IS VERY STEEP.

(INDISCERNIBLE) HE SAW IT WAS STEEP.

I WALK IN THERE BECAUSE I LIKE TO SEE THE (INDISCERNIBLE) WOODPECKERS THAT WE HAVE AND THE HAWKS.

I KNOW THAT PROPERTY SLOPES DOWN QUITE A BIT.HEY WILL NEED A LOT OF PHIL. TALK ABOUT COMPOSITE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMPOSITE MEANS. (INDISCERNIBLE) BUT WHATEVER THEY PUT IN HERE, I THINK THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S BUFFERED IN THE BACK. SO IF YOU HAVE 5 FEET OF FILL, IT'S NOT GOING TO START GOING DOWN.

BECAUSE IT WILL. IT'S GOING TO A ROAD OUT AND SLIDE DOWN THAT HILL. SO I WANT THEM TO PUT IN SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE IT LASTS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

NOT JUST 10 YEARS. EVEN LONGER.

SO HOMEOWNERS DON'T HAVE THEIR HOMES SLIDING DOWN FROM THEM.

EVEN THE LIFT STATION. I UNDERSTAND HAVE TO PAY FOR THE LIFT STATION IF THERE IS MAINTENANCE.

BUT ONCE THEY BUILD THAT, THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO THAT LIFT STATION IS ONE PERSON'S DRIVEWAY THAT IS SHARED.

AND IT IS SO FAR (INDISCERNIBLE) I THINK IT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE. I USED TO HAVE A LIFT STATION IN ONE OF THE HOMES I OWNED. AND THEY DO BREAK DOWN.

SO I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.CAN THEY PUT IT IN? YES, BUT MAY BE LONG-TERM, IT SETS THESE POOR PEOPLE UP FOR SOME HOMEOWNER ISSUES THAT YOU WOULDN'T LIKE EITHER. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. X THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS DARRELL (NAME).

I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE WETLANDS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I LIVE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. WHICH IS SUPPOSEDLY WETLANDS.

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THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THIS BUT LAND PROJECT.

BUT I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH WETLAND ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

I JUST LIKE TO STUDY IT MORE BEFORE THEY GO AHEAD.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT OR REGULAR AGENDA?

YES, MA'AM, COME FORWARD. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS ELAINE --.

>> CAN YOU PULL THAT MIKE DOWN, A LITTLE BIT?

>> MY NAME IS LAURA LYNN. CONCERNING THE TOWNHOMES PROJECT, I OPPOSE APPROVAL OF THE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT SOME COMMENTS ON TRAFFIC DYNAMICS.

I FEEL IT IS A GRAVE CONCERN. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.

I'VE WATCHED IT -- IT WASN'T REALLY OPTIMAL WHEN I MOVED THERE. BUT THE DYNAMICS OF THE INTERSECTION ARE SUCH THAT CAUTION AND SKILL CAN MITIGATE, AT CERTAIN LEVELS, BUT ONCE IT READS A POINT OF GROWTH? TO WHERE WE ARE AT, NO AMOUNT OF SKILL OR CAUTION OR ANYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO MITIGATE DANGEROUSLY HERE.

IT'S JUST THE DYNAMICS OF THAT INTERSECTION.

IN MY LAYMAN'S TERMS, I DREW A LITTLE MAP AND MADE SOME COMMENTS AND PROPOSE SOME SCENARIOS THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN MY YEARS OF DRIVING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. THAT GIVE AN IDEA ABOUT THE POSSIBLE DANGERS. I THINK IMMINENT DANGERS.

THE THOUGHT OF APPROVING THIS WITHOUT A LIGHT AT THE VERY LEAST, AT STOKES LANDING, JUST NOT QUESTIONING ANYBODY'S JUDGMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE -- IT JUST SEEMS QUITE -- OUTLANDISH.

IT KIND OF DEFIES SOME UNDERSTANDING.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE MORE THAN OTHER PEOPLE WOULD.

THOSE WHO HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH IT.

I UNDERSTAND DUE PROCESS AND I UNDERSTAND HOW DECISIONS MUST BE MADE. AND TIMELY -- MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS COME INTO THIS. JUST BRIEFLY ON THE LAND MANAGEMENT ISSUE? THE WETLANDS ISSUE? I HAIL FROM A SUBURB OF BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS.

I LEFT AT 17. I MOVED TO FLORIDA AT 17 BUT I GREW UP THERE. AND MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU WERE FACING NOW WERE FACED 50 OR 60 YEARS AGO.

FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD A NICE LITTLE BEACHFRONT IN MY CITY OF LYNN, MASSACHUSETTS. AND DECISIONS ON SEWAGE TREATMENT -- THE SEWAGE IN THE CITY, AT THAT TIME -- IT MIGHT SEEM RIDICULOUS NOW, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY PUMPED OUT INTO THE

OCEAN. >> I'M SORRY, MA'AM.

THAT'S 3 MINUTES. >> MAY I SUBMIT THAT INTO THE

RECORD? >> YES, MA'AM,, SUBMIT THAT TO THE LEGAL TEAM. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

SEEING NONE, PUBLIC, IS CLOSE. >> OKAY.

WE WILL NOW VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE NEED A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I THINK WE TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT. NOW WE NEED MOTION ON CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I'LL MOVE. >> 2ND.

>> OKAY. COMMISSIONER WALDRON?

>> I JUST WANTED TO ASK STAFF, IF WE COULD CHECK INTO PUTTING A STOP LIGHT THERE? AND A PORTION OF THE FAIR SHARE MONEY COULD BE USED FOR THAT? THE SPEEDS ON US ONE -- THE APARTMENTS ALLOWED TO BE IN THE CITY (INDISCERNIBLE) A LOT MORE

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MAYBE CONSIDER? >> WE WILL GET WITH STAFF AND

REVIEW WITH (INDISCERNIBLE). >> OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW (INDISCERNIBLE). BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO DOING IT?

>> YES, SIR. >> I THINK WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE THIS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE. BUT IT'S DOT'S SOLE DISCRETION ON US ONE WHETHER OR NOT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.

>> WE ARE VOTING ON, ITEM 4, IS A PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE.

IF SOMEONE FROM STAFF COULD TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS NUMBER? DID IT GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESSES? THE SAME FORMULA APPLY? THAT'S REALLY THE ITEM WE ARE VOTING ON, THE PROPORTIONATE

FAIR SHARE. >> COULD YOU ADDRESS THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE NUMBER, PLEASE?

>> YES.OOD MORNING. FONG (NAME) DEVELOPMENT MANAGER OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE CALCULATION WENT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS.

WE LOOKED AT THE LINKS OR SEGMENTS OF CERTAIN ROADWAYS.

AND THEN, WE LOOKED AT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE PROJECTS DISTRIBUTION OR CONSUMPTION ON THE SEGMENTS TO ARRIVE TO THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE.

>> NO SPECIAL PREFERENCE GIVEN TO THIS DEVELOPEROVER ANY

OTHER DEVELOPMENT? >> NO, NOT AT ALL.

THERE IS NO SPECIAL EXCEPTION AT ALL.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE WELCOME.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> YES, I DO.

[Approval of Consent Agenda]

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT FUNDS WE CAN PUT INTO THAT LIGHT. UDERSTAND THAT IT GOES THROUGH FDO T. I MET WITH SOME RESIDENTS AND THEY RAISED IMPORTANT CONCERNS. I'D LIKE TO SEE US PLAY A ROLE AND SEE IF WE COULD GET THIS BACK ON TRACK.

BUT I SOME SUPPORT COMMISSIONER WALDRON'S COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU.E WILL DO ROLL CALL VOTES ON ITEMS BECAUSE WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BLOCKER CALLING IN.

[Additions/Deletions to Regular Agenda]

UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW READY TO MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, ANY

CHANGES? >> NO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> AND I HAVE NONE. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE REGULAR AGENDA? >> SO MOVED.

>> MR. CHAIR -- AT THIS POINT, IF I MAY? I BROUGHT UP TO PROPOSE THAT REGULAR ITEM 3, CANOPY SHORES, BE CONTINUED TO A DATE AND TIME UNCERTAIN.

AND ITEMS 9, 10, AND 11 B CONTINUED TO 9 AM, DECEMBER 21 --

>> PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE.

THANK YOU. WE ARE TRYING TO RUN A MEETING

HERE. >> -- THAT ITEMS 9, 10, AND 11 THAT PERTAINS TO ST. JOHN'S COMMERCE EAST PROJECT B CONTINUED TO 9 AM, DECEMBER 21, 2021.

[Approval of Regular Agenda]

INCLUDE THOSE CONTINUANCES. >> I THINK WE WILL ALL AGREE TO

[1. Redistricting Update]

SO WE WILL NOW VOTE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA SETTING.

THE REGULAR AGENDA.E WILL TAKE UP ITEM 1, REDISTRICTING.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS NICOLE CUBBEDGE.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT AS A ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I'M HERE TODAY AT YOUR REQUEST TO HAVE ONE MORE DISCUSSION

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SO I WANTED TO JUST DO A QUICK REVIEW FOR THE PUBLIC ON OUR PROCESS AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL CONSULTANT WHO CANNOT BE HERE TODAY.

SHE IS SCHEDULED TO BE WITH US ON THURSDAY.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE STUCK WITH ME.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IN PREPARATION FOR THURSDAY.

WE DID START OUR PROCESS ON AUGUST 25.

WE HAD A PROCESS DISCUSSION BETWEEN YOURSELVES, THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE CONSULTANT. ON SEPTEMBER 16, WE HAD OUR FIRST JOINT MEETING. OR WE DID AN INITIAL PRESENTATION OF 4 PLANS, PLANS A, B, C AND D. ON NOVEMBER 1, WE HELD OUR FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING.HAT WAS HELD AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OFFICE. IN THE EVENING AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.N NOVEMBER 2, THE CONSULTANT WAS ACK WITH US.

WE HAD ANOTHER JOINT DISCUSSION BETWEEN YOURSELVES AND THE SCHOOL BOARD. AT WHICH POINT, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL PLAN. I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A 2ND. ON NOVEMBER 2 IN THE EVENING, WE ALSO HAD A 2ND COMMUNITY MEETING TO DISCUSS REDISTRICTING. THAT WAS HELD AT MAYS HIGH SCHOOL IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.

ON NOVEMBER 16, THE SCHOOL BOARD PUT ON THEIR OWN WORKSHOP -- JUST A DISCUSSION AMONGST THEMSELVES TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE PLANS. AND THEN, THAT BRINGS US TO TODAY. YOU HAVE THIS ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA TO PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THURSDAY.

THE SCHOOL BOARD IS ALSO DOING THE SAME THING.

I'M HERE WITH YOU FIRST AND I WILL GO DISCUSS WITH THEM LATER IN THE MORNING. WHICH IS THURSDAY, THE 9TH THE CONSULTANT WILL BE RIGHT ITH US AND WE HOPE YOU WILL MOVE FOR A DECISION. AS YOU KNOW, REDISTRICTING IS REQUIRED BY LAW AFTER THE DECENNIAL CENSUS.

SO IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE WE HAVE DONE THIS PROCESS OUR GOAL DESK AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT POPULATION CHANGES ACROSS THE COUNTY. OUR GOAL AND LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS TO ADJUST THE POPULATION AMONG THE 5 DISTRICTS TO MAKE IT MORE EQUITABLE. PYOU ARE ALLOWED BY LAW A MAXIMUM STANDARD DEVIATION OF 10 PERCENT.

WE HAVE TO STAY UNDER THAT. WE WANT OUR DISTRICTS TO BE AS PROPORTIONATELY EQUAL AS POSSIBLE.

SO AT YOUR NOVEMBER 2 DISCUSSION WITH THE CONSULTANT, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR AN ADDITIONAL MAP.

THAT IS WHAT CAME TO BE AS PLAN F. AT THE TIME WE TALKED THROUGH PLAN F, THERE WAS A LIST OF REQUESTS OF THE CONSULTANT. SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO FULFILL ALL OF THOSE. SO I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHY THAT IS, AND WHAT THINGS WERE PUT IN TO PLACE AS PART OF PLAN F. SO THE FIRST REQUEST WAS FOR DISTRICT 1. THIS PLAN IS AN ANSWER TO PLAN E1, THAT WAS CREATED AT THE REQUEST OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AT YOUR NOVEMBER 2 MEETING.

THERE WAS A DISCUSSION FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD SIDE THAT THEY WERE LEANING TOWARDS E1. AND I THINK, COLLECTIVELY, AS THE 10 OF YOU TALKED THROUGH THAT, WE FELT THAT THERE WERE CHANGES THAT MAY NEED TO BE MADE E1.

SO PLAN F FOR DISTRICT 1 REALLY KEPT THE SAME SCENARIO AS E1, WHICH KEPT ALL OF THE RIVERS EDGE CDD IN ONE DISTRICT.

YOU REMEMBER THAT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS ASKED US TO FOCUS IN ON KEEPING CDD'S WITHIN THE SAME DISTRICT FOR EASE OF VOTING THERE. SO DISTRICT 1, THE CONSULTANT WAS ABLE TO FULFILL THAT REQUEST.

AND SO, DISTRICT 1 IS A LITTLE LARGER THAN IT HAD BEEN IN E1 BUT IT KEEPS THAT RIVERS EDGE, RIVERTOWN CDD TOGETHER.

DISTRICT 4 REQUESTED -- TO GO BACK TO PLAN D. AND THEN TO INCLUDE NECK ROAD AND A PORTION OF PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD.

THERE IS A LOGICAL BREAK WHEN YOU GET TO IGUANA.

IT SEPARATES THE PORTION THAT IS HEADING INTO VILLANO BEACH.

SO THE CONSULTANT WAS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT IN PLAN F AS WELL. THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR PLAN F TO INCLUDE THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE.HE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. AND (INDISCERNIBLE) ALL WITHIN ONE DISTRICT. AND THEY REQUESTED FOR ALL THAT TO BE PLACED INTO DISTRICT 5. WHEN THE CONSULTANT TRIED TO DO THAT, THE STANDARD DEVIATION WENT THROUGH THE ROOF.

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WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE STANDARD DEVIATION. IN THE POPULATION BALANCE DID NOT WORK EITHER. BECAUSE DISTRICT 5 BECAME TOO POPULATED AND DISTRICT 3 BECAME TOO LOW IN ITS POPULATION.

SO WHAT THEY ENDED UP DOING ABOUT THE CONSULTANT ENDED UP PROPOSING TO YOU IN PLAN F IS THAT THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH WOULD BOTH BE IN 5. YOU KNOW THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS ABOUT KEEPING THOSE MUNICIPALITIES TOGETHER.AND TO NOT BREAK THOSE AS YOU SEE IN OTHER PLANTS.

THEY DID MOVE THE WEST AUGUSTINE CRA INTO DISTRICT 3.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO BRING ONE OF THOSE MORE POPULATED AREAS INTO THE DISTRICT THAT HAD THE LOWEST POPULATION.

WE DID TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WEST AUGUSTINE COULD GO BACK INTO DISTRICT 2 AS IT IS SHOWN IN E1.

BUT THE POPULATION OF WEST AUGUSTINE IS TOO HIGH, GIVEN THE BREATH THAT DISTRICT 2 NOW CONTAINS IN ORDER TO BRING THE POPULATION DOWN IN DISTRICT 1. PLAN F DOES SHOW NOW THAT YOU DO NOW GO FROM THE VERY SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY IN THIS PLAN. AND SO, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT RESULTED FROM THE DISCUSSION ON THE 2ND -- I'M NOT SURE IT IS NECESSARILY THE PLAN THAT EVERYONE HOPED IT WOULD BE.

IT IS THE BEST PLAN THAT COULD BE PUT TOGETHER TO MEET THEIR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS MOST OF THE REQUESTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE CONSULTANT. YOU CAN SEE THE MAXIMUM STANDARD DIVISION AND PLAN F IS 3.35.

SO IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

WHETHER OR NOT IT REALLY FULFILLS ALL THE REQUESTS, IS UP FOR DISCUSSION. SO WHEN THIS PLAN CAME BACK AND IT WAS SENT TO BOTH BOARDS. IT WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. THE SCHOOL BOARD DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO TALK AMONGST THEMSELVES.

OF COURSE, LIKE YOU, THEY CAN ONLY DO THAT IN A SUNSHINE FASHION AND IN A PUBLIC FORUM. THEY DISCUSSED THIS PLAN AT THE NOVEMBER 16 SCHOOL BOARD WORKSHOP.

THEY ASKED FOR CHANGES. SO THERE WERE THINGS IN THIS PLAN THAT THEY WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS JUST THE SHEER VOLUME OF LAND THAT IS NOW LOCATED IN DISTRICT 2. TO GO FROM THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE COUNTY TO THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE COUNTY -- WHAT WE KNOW IS A VERY LARGE COUNTY.

THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

THEY WERE ALSO CONCERNED THAT YOU COULD START AT THE RIVER AND DRIVE THROUGH 4 DISTRICTS BEFORE YOU GET TO THE OCEAN IN THE NORTHERN HALF OF OUR COUNTY.

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO THEY DID ASK THE CONSULTANT TO PUT FORWARD A PLAN THAT IS E2.

E2 WENT BACK TO E1, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAD REQUESTED. THEY WERE FEELING GOOD ABOUT E1. SO E2 WENT BACK TO E1 AND MADE A FEW TWEAKS. WHICH IS WHY IT BECAME KNOWN AS E2 AND NOT ALL THE WAY TO G. SO IN E2 DISTRICT 1, IT'S THE SAME AS WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN BOTH E1 AND F. DISTRICT 1 REMAINS THE SAME. DISTRICT 4 IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE JUST LOOKED AT IN PLAN F. IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEFORE PLUS NECK ROAD AND THE NORTHERN PORTION STOMACH PORTION OF PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD.

DISTRICT 5 CAME UP -- IT CAME UP AND TOOK THIS KIND OF SQUARE AREA HERE. THAT IS BOUNDED BY ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY. I 95 AND COUNTY ROAD 210 W. SO IT TOOK THIS PIECE BACK INTO DISTRICT 5. YOU SEE THIS DISTRICT IS IN DISTRICT 5 AND OTHER PLANTS.

THEY PUT IT BACK IN DISTRICT 5 SO THAT 2 DIDN'T GO FROM BOUNDARY TO BOUNDARY. IN DISTRICT 2, AND PLAN E1, INCLUDED WEST AUGUSTINE IN DISTRICT 2. BUT TO UPSET THAT DISTRICT POPULATION, FLAGLER STATES WENT INTO DISTRICT 3. SO PLAN E2 PUTS FLAGLER ESTATES BACK IN DISTRICT 2 .

IT ALSO NOW INCLUDES THIS AREA HERE, IN THE ELKTON AREA THAT IS BOUNDED BY 207, I 95, 206 AND 305.

THIS TRIANGLE PIECE RIGHT HERE. AND IN THIS PLAN, WEST

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AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE LIMITED TO A 10 PERCENT MAXIMUM BY LAW.

SO THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU -- I KNOW IT'S SMALL AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK CLOSE, BUT IT SORT OF SHOWS YOU THE EVOLUTION OF PLAN E TO PLAN E1 TO PLAN E2 TO F. SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SIMILARITIES. YOU CAN SEE WERE THOSE CHANGES OCCURRED. AS I SAID, E1 DID INCLUDE WEST AUGUSTINE IN DISTRICT 2 BUT NOT FLAGLER STATES.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN E2, THAT IS REVERSED.

SO IN PLAN F, IT IS MORE SIMILAR TO PLAN E2 BUT WITHOUT THIS PORTION OF ELKTON. DISTRICT 1 AND 4 ARE VERY SIMILAR BETWEEN E1 AND E2. AND F, THERE WERE OBVIOUSLY CHANGES IN 5, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH OF THE CITY AREA IS INCLUDED. IF YOU WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO PLAN E, THIS LINE THROUGH HERE DID CUT PIECES OF THE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH AND PUT THEM INTO DISTRICTS. WHICH THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS ASKED US TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT.

SO THIS SLIDE GOES BACK AND PICKS UP PLAN D AS A COMPARISON. BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME COMPONENTS OF D THAT WERE USED TO CREATE E1 AND F.

SOME JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME VISUALS YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THIS . THIS SLIDE GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BEGINNING AND STARTS WITH A, B, C AND D. YOU KNOW AS THE LAST DISCUSSION, WE PUT PLAN A AND PLAN B AND PLAN E ON THE BACK BURNER. THEY ARE REALLY NOT THE FAVORED PLANS. THEY ARE CERTAINLY STILL POSSIBILITIES FOR YOU BUT NOT THE FAVORED PLANS.

THIS ONE IS JUST A COMPARISON OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY, TO SEE, TO D AND E. I HAVE ALL THE PLANS ALL THE WAY BACK TO A ON THE SLIDE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING.

I CAN TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

OR WHATEVER DISCUSSIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

AS I SAID, WE ARE PREPARING TO MOVE ON THURSDAY TO A DECISION AMONGST YOURSELVES AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.

UP TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE HOPED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SINGLE DISTRICTS, SO BOTH BOARDS WOULD HAVE THE SAME DISTRICTS.

IT SIMPLIFIES THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNITIES .

THAT WAS THE MOVE TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER WITH THE CONSULTANT TO SAVE SOME TAXPAYER DOLLARS BY SHOWING THAT COSTS STOMACH COST. AND TO MOVE FORWARD AS BOTH BODIES. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BIG DECISIONS TO MAKE. SO I WANTED TO GIVE THIS

OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.>> PLAN THAT OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE SCHOOL BOARD HAVE PREFERRED AND IN YOUR JUDGMENT, IS THAT E2? IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE LEANING TOWARDS?

>> HAVE HAD A PUBLIC DISCUSSION WHERE THEY FAVORED E1.

AND WHEN THEY CAME TOGETHER ON THE 2ND, WITH YOU, E1 DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAD EVERYONE'S VOTE.

SO PLAN WAS BORN OUT OF THAT. I WOULD SAY THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS NOT SUPER EXCITED ABOUT PLAN F. WHICH IS WHY THEY ASKED TO GO BACK TO E2. TO BE FAIR, THEY HAVE NOT HAD A PUBLIC DISCUSSION SINCE E2 HAS CAME OUT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING TODAY.

I WOULD SAY THEY ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN E1 AND E2.

I WOULD SAY F IS NOT THEIR FAVORITE.

BUT THEY HAVE NOT OFFICIALLY MADE A RECOMMENDATION OR CAME TO A CONSENSUS. THE CONSENSUS THEY CAME WITH BEFORE HAD THEM AT E1. BUT I WOULD SAY THEY ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE E1 TO E2 RANGE IF I HAD TO GUESS.

>> ON DISTRICT 2'S NORM ERN END, THAT EAST-WEST BORDER ON THE NORTHERN END OF DISTRICT 2, IS AT COUNTY ROAD 210?

>> SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? >> AT THE NORTHERN END OF DISTRICT 2 ON MAP E2, IS THAT EAST-WEST BORDER BETWEEN

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>> YES. NOT CONTINUING ON GREENBRIER BUT TAKING THE DOG LEG DOWN AND LITERALLY STAYING ON 210.

>> 210 PROPER ALL THE WAY TO THE RIVER? AND THAT NORTH-SOUTH BORDER IS THAT I 95?

>> YES. >> I'M TRYING TO GET MY

BEARINGS. >> WITH THE EXCEPTION OF -- YEAH. I MEAN, IT OBVIOUSLY STOPS SHORT OF GOING TO THE COUNTY LINE.

BUT YES. >> THANK YOU.

MY ONLY OTHER THING TO COMMISSIONER DEAN IS HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT DRIVING FROM SAINT AUGUST A BEACH TO DUVAL COUNTY LINE? BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONLY PLACES WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS!

>> I LOVE ALL OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY! (LAUGHING) [LAUGHTER]

>> I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR NICOLE? OKAY.

NICOLE, JUST TO BE SURE, I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THIS STEP ON ANY OF THE ALTERNATIVES, I DIDN'T SEE ONE OF ANY OF THEM BEING MOVED OUT OF DISTRICT 5 IN THE DISTRICT FOR IS THAT

CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I THINK THE LLANO BEACH HAS MORE INTERACTION WITH SAINT AUGUSTINE. I LIKE THE COMMENTS OF LAST MONTH. I UNDERSTAND THE REASON

(INDISCERNIBLE). >> THE ONLY CHANGE THAT IS IN THAT AREA IS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PONTEVEDRA BOULEVARD AND HOW FAR DOWN YOU WOULD GO. SO THAT LINE IS THE BREAKING

POINT. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. THIS IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY, BUT WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

BECAUSE THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT REDISTRICTING.> I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 1

REDISTRICTING. >> (NAME).

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR DISCUSSION (INDISCRNIBLE) LEGAL AUTHORITY (INDISCERNIBLE) 15 AMENDMENT. OUR COUNSEL DID AN EXCELLENT JOB 10 YEARS AGO. (INDISCERNIBLE) UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED DISTRICT 2 AS IT IS NOW. DO BELIEVE WEST AUGUSTINE AND DISTRICT 2 NEED TO BE TOGETHER.

(INDISCERNIBLE) TO CONSERVE (INDISCERNIBLE).

WE NEED TO HEAR THE LATEST STATISTICS TO EACH OF THESE PLANS AS TO THE MINORITY (INDISCERNIBLE).

JOHNS COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY. THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND EXACTLY WHY THEY WERE DOING IT.

(INDISCERNIBLE) UNANIMOUSLY TOOK A STAND IN FAVOR OF OUR RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES (INDISCERNIBLE).

WE NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN. WE NEED TO TALK -- RATHER THAN BABY TALK FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, WE NEED ACTUAL NUMBERS.

AND NOT PRETTY MAPS. IN NOT DRIVING ACROSS THE COUNTY AND HOW MANY DISTRICTS YOU ARE DRIVING THROUGH.

THAT INSULTS MY INTELLIGENCE. T MAKES ME ANGRY.

(INDISCERNIBLE) THE BCC ILLEGALLY (INDISCERNIBLE) FROM 7 TO 5. AND WHAT THAT DID WAS EMPOWER DEVELOPERS.

TO EMPOWER BIG MONEY. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO 7 BCC MEMBERS IN THIS PLAN. AND IF IT TAKES ALL SUMMER? IF IT TAKESUNTIL DECEMBER 31? LET'S DO IT.

THERE'S NO REASON WHY BCC SHOULD BE 5 MEMBERS ELECTED AT LARGE. ALL THAT DOES IS EMPOWER PEOPLE WITH MONEY -- BORN MONEY -- UKRAINE, RUSSIA OR WHOEVER IS INVESTING ? (NAME) AND I FILED A COMPLAINT TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CIRCA 2004 (INDISCERNIBLE).

VERY INTERESTING. I GOT A CALL FROM THE CAREER DEPUTY FROM THE VOTING RIGHTS SECTION OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS SECTION JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. AT THAT TIME, HE WAS SO AFRAID OF ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE UNDER THE 2ND BUSH ADMINISTRATION HE CALLED US FROM HIS HOME IN MARYLAND AND WE TALKED FOR AN

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AND PROTECT VOTING RIGHTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING.

JOE (NAME) BLACKBERRY LANE, ST. JOHN'S.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THINK THE COMMISSION IN THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.

I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE RESPONSIVENESS TO COME UP WITH SO MANY VARIATIONS. IN LARGE MEASURE I MIGHT SAY DUE TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND INTEREST IN THIS.

SO COMMISSIONERS SMITH SAID SOMETHING I LIKED VERY MUCH.

I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

WHAT HESAID WAS HE WOULD SUPPORT ANY PLAN THAT WOULD KEEP THE BAG COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.

I UNDERSTOOD THAT. THAT FARM FAMILIES HAVE A VOICE. BUT TOGETHER, ALL FARM FAMILIES HAVE A STRONGER VOICE. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.

I APPRECIATED MR. SMITH'S COMMENTS THAT WAY.

SO FOR A SIMILAR REASON, I WOULD URGE YOU TO ADOPT E1.

BECAUSE WEST AUGUSTINE, HASTINGS AND ARMSTRONG NEED A STRONG VOICE. THEY DO NEED A STRONG VOICE.

JUST AS COMMISSIONER SMITH WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE FARM FAMILIES, SO I AM ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF STRONG VOICES.

PLEASE ACCEPT E1 IF YOU WOULD. I WAS LOOKING AT FLAGLER STATES ALONG 204 AND THINKING OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORTH AND WHAT'S COMING IN THE SOUTH. I THINK THE SOUTH COUNTY AREA HOLDS TOGETHER UNDER E1 AND HAS A COMMON VOICE AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR E1.

IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EQUAL DISTRICTS.

AND IT GIVES ALL GROUPS A STRONGER VOICE.

E1. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 1? SEEING NONE, WE ARE CLOSE FOR

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, NICOLE.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING THURSDAY AT 9 AM.

THIS COMING THURSDAY AT 9 AM IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED.

WHERE I THINK WE WILL TAKE ACTION ON THE REDISTRICTING PROPOSALS.S THAT NOT CORRECT?

[2. Public Hearing * MAJMOD 2021-15 Worthington Estates (Lot 180).]

>> THAT IS RIGHT. 9 AM THIS THURSDAY IN THIS AUDITORIUM. IT IS PROPOSED THAT THE BOARDS MEET JOINTLY. EACH WILL VOTE SEPARATELY TO ADOPT A DISTRICT. I THINK THE GENERAL PLAN IS TO HAVE THE SAME DEPTH CT IF POSSIBLE.

ALL OF THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. >> NOW WE ARE READY TO MOVE TO ITEM 2, WHICH IS AN ACTION ITEM.

IT'S ALSO A QUASIJUDICIAL. SO I WILL CALL ON OUR MEMBERS TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY EX PARTE DISCUSSIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE STATED IN THE RECORD. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> ON SEPTEMBER 23 I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY MEETING AT 6 PM AT THE (INDISCERNIBLE) LIBRARY. THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THE LEGAL TEAM DOING THE PRESENTATION. THEY HAD SOME LITERATURE TO HAND OUT TO THE MEMBERS. IT WAS A PACKED HOUSE.

THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS WERE DEALT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT WORTHINGTON ESTATES. AND HOW IT AFFECTED SCOTT ROAD AND THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING SCOTT ROAD.

THOSE WERE THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED ON SEPTEMBER 23.

THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS THERE TOOK NOTES AND TOOK THOSE CONCERNS BACK TO HER TEAM. ON DECEMBER 2, AT 11:30 AM, I MET WITH CHARLES AND MARY FAR, WHO EXPRESSED SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS. AND ALSO EXPRESSED A CONCERN THAT THEY WERE BUILDING THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY ON WHAT WAS ONCE SUPPOSED TO BE A POND SITE.

ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS SURROUNDING THE POND SITE.

THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE NEED BETWEEN A FENCE BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND WORTHINGTON ESTATES.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. >> LAST THURSDAY ON DECEMBER 2, I MET WITH CHARLES AND MARY FAR.

AND DISCUSSED BASICALLY THE SAME ISSUES THAT COMMISSIONER

WHITEHURST IS REFERRING TO. >> ON THURSDAY, 12-TO-21, I MET

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THE OTHER CONCERN WAS THE CONDITION OF SCOTT ROAD WETLANDS. AND THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE MAINTENANCE OF SCOTT ROAD WILL GO IN THE FUTURE.

AND WHAT CHANGING THIS (INDISCERNIBLE) WILL DO TO THE COMMUNITY. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER?

>> YES. I HAD A MEETING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 29, AT APPROXIMATELY 11:30 AM WITH CHARLES AND MARY FAR. WE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE ON SCOTT ROAD.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT THERE WAS A FENCE THAT WAS AGREED UPON IN PRIOR YEARS THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

THAT'S OF GREAT CONCERN TO A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS OF SCOTT ROAD. THAT'S ONLY CORRESPONDENCE OR ENGAGEMENT I'VE HAD ON THIS ISSUE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO WE WILL NOW PICK UP ITEM 2. >> MR. CHAIR, BEFORE MR. BURNETT STARTS HIS PRESENTATION, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS NOTIFIED. I THINK THERE WILL BE A REPRESENTATIVE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR A NUMBER OF PERSONS.

I HAVE TO COUNT THEM OUT -- LOOKS LIKE 30 TO 35 OR SO WITH ADDRESSES AND CONTACT INFO. THE REQUEST WAS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THAT REPRESENTATIVE TO BE ALLOTTED FOR 10 MINUTES.

THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE (INDISCERNIBLE) A HEADS UP ON THAT REQUEST.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL PLAN ON.

10 MINUTES FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SPEAKER THIS MORNING. DOUG?

>> READY TO MOVE FORWARD. I DON'T ANTICIPATE TURNING THIS

INTO SOME QUASI -- >> IT'S JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL

PURPOSES. >> UNDERSTAND.

DOUG BURNETT, ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP.

I KNOW YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST,. I WILL TELL YOU AFTER THAT MEETING WE DID HAVE A FOLLOW-UP MEETING BY ZOOM.

WE ALSO DID ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AT PCA SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THE FENCING ACCOMPLISHED.

BETWEEN THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND THE PCA HEARING, WE DID GET SOME OF THE FENCING ACCOMPLISHED.

WE SHOWED THAT DURING OUR PRESENTATION AT PCA.

ALSO YOU SOME OF THAT TODAY AS WELL.

WE GOT UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM PCA. I THINK A LARGE PART IT WAS BECAUSE THIS REPRESENTS THE BEST THING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY. RATHER THAN HAVE THE DIRT MIND OUT OF IT AS A PIT, SO TO SPEAK.

AND ALSO WE DO NOW HAVE THE FENCE LARGELY UNDERWAY.

IN FACT, THE HOMEBUILDERS COMMITTED TO DOING THE FENCE.

THEY'VE HAD MORE PROGRESS SINCE PCA.

LOCATION WISE, ROBERTS ROAD AND GREENBRIER ROAD YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE. THIS IS GOING UP RUBICON DRIVE MILL CREEK MIDDLE AND IS. YOU GET UP THROUGH WORTHINGTON ESTATES. AND YOU SEE THIS PARTICULAR LOT HERE. IT WAS A LOT -- IT WAS AN OR LOT LIKE THE ONES YOU CAN SEE IN THE AREA ADJACENT TO IT.

HAT CAN BE BUILT ON PRIOR TO THE PUD.

YOU CAN SEE HERE A POND WHERE AN ADJACENT LOT WAS SIMILARLY CONFIGURED. THE OVERALL VIEW OF THE PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RETENTION PONDS. IT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF SCOTT ROAD. SO THE MAJOR PORTION OF THIS PROJECT IS 179 LOTS. ACROSS FROM SCOTT ROAD YOU HAVE A POND IN THIS ONE TRACT. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- CONVERTED BACK TO SINGLE-FAMILY.

IT WAS INTENDED THAT IT WOULD BE USED TO MINE THE DIRT OUT OF IT DURING THE PROJECT. A BLOW THIS UP SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER LOOK. WE DO HAVE A SURVEY OF IT TO SHOW. OBVIOUSLY IT'S TRACT 36.

TRACT 35 AND 37 IS ON EITHER SIDE.

THERE IS A 30 FOOT WIDE DRAINAGE PARCEL OWNED BY ST.

JOHN'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT.

LOOKING AT THIS, YOU SAY DOUG, WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT BACK TO OR? AND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR STAFF BEFORE WE FILE THE APPLICATION.

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THE ADDED THING IS WE END UP WITH A PRESERVATION ON THE BACK OF IT WHERE THERE ARE SOME TREES.

AND YOU LIMIT THE FOOTPRINT OF WHAT CAN BE BUILT THERE TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE IN ONE LOCATION.

RATHER AN OR FOR THE ENTIRE PARCEL.

IT MAKES IT SO WHEREVER STOMACH WHATEVER GETS BUILT IN THE FUTURE IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. NOT ANYTHING THAT COULD BE ALLOWED UNDER OR. A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK AT THE SITE FROM THEAREA. YOU CAN SEE THE NORTHERN PART OF WORTHINGTON ESTATES. THIS IS WHERE THAT EMERGENCY FIRE ACCESS IS. BETWEEN SCOTT ROAD AND WORTHINGTON ESTATES. THIS IS THE PICTURE AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRIOR TO OUR FIRST SCHEDULED PCA HEARING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE FENCING THAT HAS BEEN INSTALLED.

THIS WAS RIGHT BEFORE OUR PCA HEARING.

AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE BEFORE. AND AFTER, WHERE THE FENCING HAS BEEN PUT IN. AND ALSO, YOU CAN SEE WELL BEYOND THE FENCING BEHIND A NUMBER OF HOMES BACK IN THERE.

TODAY, IF YOU LOOKED AT THESE LOTS RIGHT HERE, THERE ARE ACTUALLY ABOUT 50 POSTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN.

THE LATTER ARTICLE:LATERAL MEMBERS AND VERTICAL MEMBERS HAVE NOT BEEN INSTALLED YET. BUT THERE ARE ROUGHLY50 POSTS THAT A BEEN PUT IN. THAT HAVE BEEN LEVELED TO WHERE THEY ARE READY TO GO. THEY ARE CITED IN THE RIGHT LOCATION. SO IT'S VERY QUICKLY UNDERWAY.

PCA'S RECOMMENDATION IS WE REQUIRED TO DO THE FENCE WITHIN 60 DAYS. WE ARE FINE WITH THAT.

THE TECHNICAL LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE PUD TEXT SAYS YOU GET IT DONE AT THE TIME OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.

THE HOUSE BEING BUILT NOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF YOU PUT FENCES IN BEFORE THE FINAL GRADING, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE FENCES TORN UP THROUGH THE GRADING AND LANDSCAPING PROCESS. THAT'S WHY IT WAS TIMED IN THAT MANNER. AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT ONE LAST QUICK VIEW. YOU CAN SEE HOW PROTECTIVE THE LOT IS. FOR THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS.

IN A BIG NOTE ON HERE, OUR ST. PJOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT -- -- WAS NEVER PART OF STORM WATER.

IT WAS NEVER CALCULATED AS STORMWATER CAPACITY.

IT WAS TO MIND THE DIRT. THE ISSUE, QUITE FRANKLY, IS THERE WAS CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY RESIDENTS THAT TRUCKS WERE GOING UP AND DOWN SCOTT ROAD DURING CONSTRUCTION.

RATHER THAN MINING THE DIRT MY CLIENT -- AND THAT REQUEST CAME FROM THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER AND THE COUNTY STAFF -- AND SO MY CLIENT LOOKED AT IT AND SAID WE WILL TURN IT BACK INTO A LOT. SO THAT'S THE DECISION THEY MADE TO DO TO TRY TO BE A GOOD STEWARD AND CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIRES OF COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS AND THE NEIGHBORS.

DO NOT MIND THE ROAD AND KEEP THE TRAFFIC OFF OF SCOTT ROAD.

IT'S ENTIRELY CONSISTENT OF WHAT IT ALWAYS WAS -- A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE. WITH THAT, I WILL AND MY PRESENTATION AND GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.

THAT BUILDING FOOTPRINT AREA IN CONNECTION WITH THE LOT.

IT OUTLINES THE HOUSE WITH THE HOMES ALIGNED IN THIS AREA IN GENERAL. WITH THAT, I WILL COMPLETE MY PRESENTATION. STOP TALKING.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> OKAY. IF THERE AREN'T ANY BOARD QUESTIONS, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

I GUESSTHE DESIGNATED SPEAKER ON BEHALF OF -- IS THEIR

DESIGNATED SPEAKER HERE? >> YES.

I BELIEVE THIS CITIZEN APPROACHING.

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR 3 MINUTES ON YOUR OWN? YOU ARE NOT ON THAT LIST?

>> (INDISCERNIBLE). >> MADAME, CAN YOU PLEASE

APPROACH --? >> I'M THE DESIGNATED SPEAKER.

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AFTER THE OTHER 3 SPEAKERS WHO HAVE 3 MINUTES EACH.

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. THAT WAS ALL.

>> OKAY. >> ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE NOT ON THAT LIST THAT THS LADY IS REPRESENTING BUT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR 3 MINUTES?

>> AND BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER, I WOULD JUST VERY QUICKLY LIKE TO GO THROUGH -- IT'S THE BRANIFF'S, TO LOWE'S, CAMPBELL'S, -- -- HILDEBRAND, HOFFMAN, 2 OF THOSE, HOLLIDAY, JOHNSON, 2 OF THOSE, MAXWELL, MCFARLAND -- -- PETERSON, 2 OF THOSE. LOACH, 2 OF THOSE.

STERLING, 2 OF THOSE. (NAME).

>> THANK YOU, PATRICK. SO IF YOUR NAME IS NOT ON THAT LIST AND YOU WISH TO SPEAK AS AN INDIVIDUAL ON ITEM 2 FOR 3 MINUTES, PLEASE APPROACH (LAUGHING).

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ANDY WHITE.

I RESIDE AT 1614 (INDISCERNIBLE) DRIVE.

WHICH IS LOCATED IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THE FAMILY HAS RESIDED IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR 60 YEARS. TO BEGIN WITH I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE FTCA IS.

IT WAS FORMED IN 2015 AS AN ADVOCACY GROUP ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS IN MATTERS WHICH ARE COMMON INTEREST TO THE MEMBERSHIP. THESE INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO OPPOSING REZONE PROPERTIES WHICH BORDERED (INDISCERNIBLE). WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH COVENANTS, TO FORM RESTRICTIONS OF PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE MEMBERS. WE DON'T TELL THEM WHAT COLOR THEY PAINT THEIR HOUSE. THEY CAN PARK A BOAT IN THE DRIVEWAY. WE DON'T CARE.

WE'RE SIMPLY A GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION THAT JOINED TOGETHER TO TRY TO PRESERVE OUR AREA AS IT IS.

WE WERE SUCCESSFUL EARLY ON INTO BATTLING DEVELOPERS AND WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS DUE TO THE COME ON OF OUR MEMBERS.

-- -- WE RAISE MONEY THROUGH VOLUNTARY DONATIONS AND HOSTED A BARBECUE FOR AFUNDRAISER . WE HIRED AN ATTORNEY AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO SO AGAIN IF NEED BE.

OUR MEMBERS COME FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE WHILE SHARE A COMMON GOAL. SO WHY ARE WE HERE ON A RELATIVELY MINOR ZONING ISSUE? WELL, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER REQUESTING THE ZONING CHANGE HAS NOT LIVED UP TO THE AGREEMENT IN YEARS PAST. IN 2016, MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH MEMBERS OF OUR GROUP AND THE DEVELOPER TO HELP RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUE. WE TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THIS ISSUE INSTEAD OF COMING AT YOU AFTER THE FACT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ALREADY FIRED UP. ASSURANCE WAS MADE BY THE DEVELOPER ON SUCH ISSUES AS FENCING, RESTRICTING ACCESS TO SCOTT ROAD. WE ALSO MADE OUR FLOODING CONCERNS KNOWN TO THE BOARD. AND THESE CONCERNS WERE IGNORED UNTIL JUST RECENTLY BY THE DEVELOPER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT STIRRED UP OVER THIS ISSUE WHICH IS RELATIVELY MINOR. WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, THEY SHOULD DO IT.

WE JUST WANT THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE GOOD ON THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. AND I THINK LOOKING FORWARD, I THINK IT'S AN ISSUE OF CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR THE COUNTY.

IF YOU FOLKS DON'T DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO DO, THERE IS AN ELECTION COMING. THEY MAY CALL YOU OUT ON IT.

I MET WITH COMMISSIONER BLOCKER THE OTHER DAY.

I SAID YOU KNOW, WE AREN'T TRYING TO KILL CAPITALISM OR PUT DEVELOPERS OUT OF BUSINESS. BUT WHEN THEY MAKE AN AGREEMENT, THEY SHOULD HOLD TO IT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU.NYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHO IS NOT ON THE LIST BEING REPRESENTED? YES SIR.

>> ROBERTO (NAME) 2296 JANET DRIVE, ST. JOHN'S 32259.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE MODIFICATIONS BEING REQUESTED FOR 2 REASONS.

FIRST, THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT MET HIS COMMITMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORS OF LOT 180 LIKE MR. WHITE SAID.

YOU HAVE 35 OR SO EMAILS FOR RESIDENTS, TESTIMONIALS REGARDING INCREASED FLOODING. THE LACK OF SEPARATION FENCE AND DUMP TRUCK TRAVEL THROUGH SCOTT ROAD.

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I LIVE ON BENNETT DRIVE.'VE WITNESSED DUMP TRUCK TRAFFIC ON SCOTT ROAD SINCE 2017 OR 18. THE DEVELOPER EXCUSES THAT DUMP TRUCKS WERE GOING TO MARTY ROAD.

THAT'S ONLY BEEN HAPPENING IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

THE DEVELOPER AT THE PCA MEETING ALSO OFFERED TO DEDICATE SCOTT ROAD TO THE COUNTY.

IN OTHER WORDS, PASSING ON THE MAINTENANCE OF SUCH ROAD TO THE CITIZENS THAT HE HASN'T KEPT THE COMMITMENTS TO.

CCORDINGLY, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT RESOLVED ALL COMMENTS, I PRAY THAT THIS MODIFICATION BE DENIED UNTIL, AT A MINIMUM, THE FENCE IS COMPLETED AND SCOTT ROAD IS STABILIZE. I DON'T INTEND FOR LOT 180 TO BE MINED FOR DIRT. JUST FINISHED THE FENCE AND STABILIZE SCOTT ROAD. 2ND, LOT 180 ON ITS OWN IS CLEARLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AS CURRENTLY ZONED. LOT 180 REPRESENTS AN ENCROACHMENT ON THE (INDISCERNIBLE) COMMUNITY AND A POTENTIAL SPRAWL HAZARD WHICH IS CONTRARY TO GOALS AND OBJECTIVES TO POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AT THE PCA MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18, THE PCA BOARD WAS UNABLE TO RELATE RESIDENTS CONCERN TO COMPATIBILITY.

I CONTEND COMPATIBILITY IS THE CRUX OF OUR CONCERNS.

BECAUSE WITHOUT THE REZONING OF SCOTT ROAD IN WORTHINGTON, THERE WULD BE NO NEED FOR SEPARATION FENCES.

THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAVEL.AND FLOODING WOULD PROBABLY NOT EXIST. ACCORDINGLY, I PRAY THAT YOU DENY REQUEST UNTIL THE FENCE IS FINALIZED AND SCOTT ROAD IS STABILIZE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WHO IS NOT REPRESENTED ON THE LIST?

YES, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING.

I'M CHARLES (NAME) I LIVE AT 1385 SCOTT ROAD.

I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE CALL (NAME) WHICH IS AN UP ECLECTIC COLLECTION OF HOME . WE ARE LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH AND WEST OF THIS PUD. I PRESENT INFORMATION TO THIS BOARD THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET. ALSO, I PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

WE DO RECOGNIZE THE DEVELOPER HAS COME FORWARD AND MADE PROGRESS ON THE FENCING. OWEVER, IT IS NOT COMPLETE.

AND WE STILL ASK THAT THIS NOT BE APPROVED -- OR APPROVED CONDITIONALLY UNTIL THE FENCE IS COMPLETED.

WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS DEVELOPER. WE'VE BEEN GIVEN EXCUSES AS TO WHY THE FENCING HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

APPARENTLY THE ONLY THING THAT MOVED THEM WAS WE WERE GOING TO COME HERE AND EXPOSE THIS LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY TO THEIR OBLIGATION. SO AS OF THIS MORNING, WE DROVE BY THERE. THE FENCING WAS NOT COMPLETE.

THERE WERE THE POSTS IN PLACE AND THE EMERGENCY GATE FENCING WAS COMPLETE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WHO IS NOT ON THE LIST THAT MR. MCCORMACK READ? PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. I THINK WE ARE READY FOR THE COMMUNITY'S REPRESENTATIVE. YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MARRY FAR, I LIVE AT 1385 SCOTT ROAD. THE FAZIO GRANT COMMUNITY IS A LOT OF WORKING PEOPLE AND FAMILY CAREGIVERS.

IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO BE HERE. SO I WANT TO THANK CHAIR DRANE FOR GIVING US THE 10 MINUTES. LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ORIGINAL LOTS WERE SOLD IN THE 1960S. THERE ARE SEVERAL FAMILIES THAT HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 3 GENERATIONS.

AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE FOR 25 OR 30 YEARS.

IT'S NOT A BRAND-NEW PLACE. THE FAZIO GRANT AS YOU HEARD IS VERY ECLECTIC. AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY.

THERE ARE MORE THAN 50 HORSES IN THE COMMUNITY.

TO GIVE IT MORE VARIETY. AND YOUNG FAMILIES ARE MOVING INTO OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE GENTRIFYING, WHICH IS GOOD. BECAUSE IT IS STILL OPEN RURAL.

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AT THE ISOLATED CONSERVATION AREA.

SECONDLY, TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER ALTERA TO RESTORE THE SCOTT ROAD EASEMENT TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION.

POTHOLES FILL, MAKING THE ROAD PASSABLE AND WET AND DRY CONDITIONS. THIRDLY, TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESIDENTS LIVING ON THE PRIVATE PORTION OF SCOTT ROAD TO NEGOTIATE A WRITTEN, LONG-TERM ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ON SCOTT ROAD.

FIRST OFF, THE FENCING ISSUE. HIGHLIGHTS FENCING REQUIREMENTS -- DO I HAVE -- THE PICTURE? DO I HAVE TO GO OVER HERE?

>> YOU CAN PLACE IT ON THE OVERHEAD RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF

THIS TABLE HERE. >> THIS IS THE AGREEMENT -- OR THE APPROVAL THE DEVELOPER WILL INSTALL FENCING ON THE INSIDE EDGE OF THE ISOLATED WETLAND CONSERVATION AREA, BETWEEN LOTS 67 AND 79. AT THE TIME, A VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION -- THE FENCE MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS A 3 WAY RANCH STYLE FENCING. FENCING IS INTENDED TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR BOUNDARY BETWEEN LOTS 67 AND 79 AND THE ADJACENT WETLAND CONSERVATION AREA.

AND HERE IS THE ATTACHMENT THAT SAYS THAT.

THE DEVELOPER REGULATED HIS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR FENCE INSTALLATION TO THE HOMEBUILDERS.

AND DID NOT FOLLOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

AS OF TODAY, AS YOU HEARD, 7 COMPLETED LOTS DO NOT HAVE FENCING. VERSUS VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.

ONLY AFTER IT WAS APPARENT THAT FAZIO GRANT COMMUNITY WAS WILLING TO BRING THESE OMISSIONS TO THE ATTENTION TO THE PCA AND BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAS ANY CONCERTED EFFORT BEEN TO ADHERE TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE 2016 PUD APPROVAL. THEREFORE, FAZIO GRANT COMMUNITY ASKS THAT LOT 180 REZONING BE DELAYED UNTIL 2016 FENCING REQUIREMENTS ARE COMPLETED.

WE HAVE 2 OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU. FIRST OFF IS THE CONDITION OF SCOTT ROAD THAT YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT.

DAMAGE TO THE PRIVATE PORTION OF SCOTT ROAD AND ADJOINING

DITCHES OWNED BY -- >> IT'S UPSIDE DOWN!

>> OKAY! DAMAGE TO THE PRIVATE -- IS IMPASSABLE DUE TO MUD WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE.

AND RUTS FOR EXAMPLE. AFTER RAIN, DELIVERY TRUCKS NEED TOWED OUT. THERE ARE ALSO ELDERLY PEOPLE LIVING AT THE END OF SCOTT ROAD.

FAMILIES ARE CONCERNED THAT MEDICAL HELP CAN'T GET TO THEM IN A TIMELY FASHION. THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD MAKES PASSAGE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ALL TYPES OF TRAFFIC.

INCLUDING RESIDENTS COMMUTING AND CHILDREN GETTING TO SCHOOL.

THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE AN AMICABLE WRITTEN SOLUTION NEGOTIATED WITH ALTERA WHICH ALLOWS THE RESIDENTS OF SCOTT ROAD EASEMENT TO ACCESS THEIR HOMES.

WE ASK YOU TO ENCOURAGE THIS STRONGLY.

THE EMERGENCY EXIT SITUATION. FOR 2 YEARS, RESIDENTS HAVE MADE REPEATED REQUESTS TO STOP INAPPROPRIATE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE EMERGENCY GATE. FENCING WAS NOT INSTALLED UNTIL 2 WEEKS BEFORE THE PCA MEETING. WHICH MR. BURNETT HAS SHOWN YOU. FOR 2 YEARS DURING CONSTRUCTION, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SPOKE TO MR. (NAME) AND ALTERNATIVE PRINCIPLES SEVERAL TIMES REGARDING THE ISSUES THAT SCOTT ROAD EMERGENCY GATE.

THE REQUIRED FENCING FOR THE EMERGENCY GATE WAS INSTALLED 2 WEEKS BEFORE THE PCA MEETING. AND ALSO, JUST TO REVIEW WHAT

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I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST HAD HIS VIEW, WHICH WAS VERY VALID. THE PUBLIC MEETING FOR LOT 180 REZONING WAS HELD 16 BUSINESS DAYS.

THE REQUIREMENT IS 15 BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE THE PCA HEARING.

ONLY ONE SIGN WAS POSTED TO ADVERTISE THIS BEYOND MARLEY ROAD FOR LOT 108 RATHER THAN LOT 180.

THE SIGN WOULDN'T BE READILY SEEN BY RESIDENTS ON MARLEY ROAD OR ANY OTHER RESIDENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

FORTUNATELY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATES WITH EACH OTHER.

26 RESIDENTS DID ATTEND THE MEETING AT THE LIBRARY.

COUNTY OFFICIALS (INDISCERNIBLE) AND COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST ATTENDED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE WAS NO INTENT TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT LOT 180 PROJECT.

THE ST. JOHN'S ATTORNEY ATTENDING THE MEETING COULD NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT LOT 180 ZONING.

IN FACT, SHE MISSPOKE ABOUT THE SIZE.

SHE SAID IT WAS 5 ACRES, WHEN INSTEAD, IT IS ACTUALLY 2.8 ACRES. SHE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH HANDOUTS DESCRIBING THE PROJECT NOR POSTERS OR A POWERPOINT OR ANY OTHER PRESENTATION TO CLEARLY EXPLAIN THE SITUATION.

AFTER PRESSURE FROM THE COMMUNITY, A WEEK LATER, MR. BURNETT HELD A ZOOM MEETING. WHICH OF COURSE ONLY HAD LIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND.

BY THEN, SIGNS ANNOUNCING THE PUD APPLICATION WERE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. NO MEETING IS ANNOUNCED ON THOSE SIGNS. THE LETTER OF THE LAW MAY HAVE BEEN MET, BUT WAS IT THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW CONSIDERED? THE ATTITUDE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS, THE DEVELOPMENT DID NOT RESPOND TO, TO THE RESIDENTS.

REPEATED REQUESTS TO ADDRESS AN ADEQUATE FENCING, UNCHARACTERISTIC FLOODING, AND INCREASED HEAVY VEHICLE TRAFFIC DAMAGING THE SCOTT ROAD EASEMENT.

THE INSUFFICIENT PUBLIC MEETING LACKING ANY PERTINENT INFORMATION SHOWS A DISREGARD FOR THE PUD APPROVAL SYSTEM AND THE PEOPLE LIVING AROUND WORTHINGTON ESTATES.

PLEASE DELAY APPROVAL OF THE -- OF THE 2021-15 AND ENCOURAGE A WHOLEHEARTED, AMICABLE SOLUTION TO THE DAMAGE TO SCOTT ROAD EASEMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.ND I

AM SPEAKING 441 PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU, MS. FARR.

>> AND MR. CHAIR, BEFORE MR. BURNETT COMES UP, REBUTTAL, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT -- I MAY HAVE MISHEARD, BUT I THOUGHT MS. FARR SAID AN ATTORNEY (INDISCERNIBLE) -- I THINK MAYBE THAT WAS THE ST. JOHNS LAW GROUP ATTORNEY? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. SHE IS SHAKING HER HEAD YES.

>> ED SLAVEN. I AGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE WORD THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE SAID. I THINK YOU SHOULD DENY THIS.

THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY IS A FORMER DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO IS ALSO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY.

WHICH HE ACTUALLY DID A CORPORATION FOR THE AIRPORT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> MR. SLAVEN, I WANT TO STICK TO THIS SUBJECT MATTER.

I DON'T WANT TO DELVE INTO THIS ATTORNEY'S OTHER CLIENTS OR

ISSUES. >> I THINK THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HEARD. AND THE FACTS NEED TO COME OUT.

PAND WHEN YOU HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS --

>> I WANT YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FACTS --

REQUESTS --. >> UNDER (INDISCERNIBLE) I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ADEQUATE NOTICE.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT'S VIOLATING THE LAW.

AND IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT THIS ATTORNEY IS GIVING EXTRA EXTRA BENEFITS FROM HIS CLIENTS ALL THE TIME.

THESE CONCERNS NEED TO BE HEARD AND HEATED.

AND I THINK THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANTS IS LAUGHING AT THEM AND (INDISCERNIBLE). I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER AGAIN PUT UP WITH SOMEBODY THINKING THEY HAVE SPECIAL INFLUENCE BECAUSE THEY USED TO WORK AROUND HERE.

IT'S JUST WRONG! (INDISCERNIBLE) THIS FIRM IS

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AND I THINK YOU NEED TO DENY THE APPLICATION AND SEND THEM ON THEIR WAY. AND LET THEM NEGOTIATE WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT NOT ONE MORE FAVOR FOR THIS FIRM WERE THESE DEVELOPERS. I MEAN, FASTER THAN A SPEEDING DUMP TRUCK. AND YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE DUMP TRUCKS. FASTER SPEEDING DUMP TRUCKS, THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHAT WE KNOW AND LOVE HERE IS BEING DESTROYED BY THESE DEVELOPERS. AND I SAY ENOUGH.

JAMES MADISON WROTE IN 1823, A POPULAR GOVERNMENT WITHOUT POPULAR INFORMATION IS A PRELUDE TO TRAGEDY OR FARCE OR BOTH. AND THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET INFORMATION AND THEY HAVE BEEN DENIED IT.

YOU NEED TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR DEVELOPERS.AND NOT TO THE THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED.

THERE ARE 33 COMMUNITIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHERE THERE ARE BAD FLOODING PROBLEMS THAT ARE CAUSED BY DEVELOPERS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. INCLUDING WORK THAT WAS DONE BY A PRIOR COUNTY ENGINEER WHO WASN'T EVEN AN ENGINEER.

SO PLEASE DENY THIS AND SEND THE DEVELOPER ON THEIR WAY.

LET'S GET AN OMBUDSMAN. LET'S GET AN EFFECTIVE INSPECT INSPECTOR GENERAL WHO IS INDEPENDENT.

LET'S LOOK INTO THESE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS.

THANK YOU. >> BJ (NAME).

WEST SAINT AUGUSTINE. I JUST HAD TO GET UP HERE! I LISTEN TO ALL THESE PEOPLE COME IN AND I KNOW YOU ARE LISTENING TOO. THE LAST LADY, SHE HAD IT TOGETHER. SHE MAY NOT BE A LAWYER BUT SHE HAD A TOGETHER. AND I WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY AGAIN AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR EVERY RESIDENT THAT COMES IN HERE TO TRY TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT'S VERY DISCOURAGING. TABLE IT UNTIL THE FENCE IS DONE. GIVE ME A BREAK! THE FENCE? FIX SCOTT ROAD.

NOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TABLE IT AND DO THAT AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THESE 2 THINGS? THEN, DENY IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

IT'S 2 CHOICES. DO YOU WANT A WIN-WIN? THAT'S THE WIN-WIN. TABLE IT UNTIL THEY GET THEIR WORK DONE AS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO OR DENY IT.

THEN THEY KNOW WE ARE NOT PLAYING GAMES ANYMORE.

BECAUSE WE STARTED AT 11:08. IT'S ALMOST 1130.

WE HAVE TO MOVE THE SING-ALONG. I KNOW YOU ARE TIRED BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO EVERYBODY TODAY.

BUT I JUST HAD TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THESE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ARTICULATE. THEY MAY NOT KNO HOW TO PUT THE PICTURE UP THERE RIGHT, BUT I APPRECIATE WHEN I SEE THIS GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY ESPECIALLY.

WE ARE THE BEST COUNTY IN THE WORLD.

PNOT JUST IN FLORIDA. BUT WE ARE DESTROYING OURSELVES. I'M SORRY.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

EVEN THOUGH THE LADY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LAST!

THANK YOU. >> (LAUGHING) THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 2?

SEEING NONE, WE ARE CLOSE. >> OKAY.

THE CLOSEST PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. BURNETT, YOU HAVE A FEW

MINUTES. >> IF I COULD GET MY PRESENTATION BACK UP THERE? A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO HIT ON. SO MUCH OF THIS PROJECT, THROUGH ITS CONSTRUCTION, WAS HANDICAPPED BY THE PERCEPTION THAT SOMETHING ELSE WAS GOING ON THEN WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON. THE ONE PICTURE THAT WE SEEN ABOUT A VEHICLE GOING AROUND THE EMERGENCY GAIT IS A FEDEX TRUCK. IT'S NOT RELATED TO OUR CONSTRUCTION. IT'S NOT A CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE RELATED TO ANYTHING WE ARE DOING.

IT'S A FEDEX TRUCK. SOUTH OF WORTHINGTON ESTATES IS ANOTHER 100 HOMES THAT ARE FULLY BUILT.

RESIDENTS LIVE IN THEM. AT THE TIME THAT PICTURE IS THERE, THERE MIGHT BE 150 RESIDENTS TO THE SOUTH.

THE FEDEX TRUCK OBVIOUSLY KNOWS SCOTT ROAD.

HE WAS DRIVING AROUND THE FENCE.

THE FENCE HAS BEEN PUT IN ALL THE WAY ACROSS SO THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. WE ALSO HAD AN INCIDENT WHERE OUR SURVEYOR ACTUALLY LIVED OFF SCOTT ROAD.

SURE WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION WORKER DRIVING TO AND FROM SCOTT ROAD IN A CONSTRUCTION TRUCK.

HE LIVES ON THE ROAD IN THAT AREA.

HE'S GOING TO DRIVE IT BECAUSE HE FEELS HE HAS A RIGHT BECAUSE HE LIVES THERE. WE ALSO HAD AN ISSUE WHERE -- AND I THINK SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT WERE SENT IN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT DIRT SUBCONTRACTORS OR CONTRACTORS

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YOU CAN SEE HERE -- THIS MIGHT NOT SHOW UP AS WELL ON THE OVERHEAD. BUT THIS IS ALL DIRT WORK BEING DONE AT MARLEY AND SCOTT UNRELATED TO OUR PROJECT.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE OFF OF MARLEY.

THIS IS OUR PROJECT OVER HERE. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DIRT WORK BEING DONE. AGAIN, THIS IS OUR PROJECT OVER HERE AND MORE DIRT WORK.LEAR FROM THESE AERIALS.

THERE IS A LITTLE MORE TO THIS STORY.

I WILL SHOW YOU ONE OTHER THING.

OUR SITE IS LOCATED HERE. THE HOME IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OUR HOUSE -- TO OUR LOT -- THAT HOME IS FOR SALE FOR $1.2 MILLION. THE HOME AT THIS LOCATION IS FOR SALE FOR $4.2 MILLION. INTERESTINGLY, THE FIRST LIVE HERE. IT'S ROUGHLY 4400 FEET AWAY FROM IT. THE OUT OF SCOTT ROAD IS GOING IN THIS DIRECTION. THE FOLKS COMPLAINING AREN'T DRIVING PAST OUR SITE. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE A COUPLE OF HOMES BACK HERE IN THIS AREA. BUT THE HOMES COMPLAINING ARE NOT DRIVING PAST THIS PORTION OF SCOTT ROAD.

THEY ARE DRIVING THIS AND OUT. SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU. THE FENCING? WE DON'T HAVE A CODE ISSUE. WE DON'T HAVE A CODE VIOLATION OF OUR CURRENT PUD. THE FENCING WAS PART OF THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S WHY THE TIMING WAS THE WAY IT WAS. FOR THE HOMES TO GET BUILT.

OBVIOUSLY, WITH A BUILDER THE SIZE OF KB HOMES BUILDING A NUMBER OF HOMES? THEY HAD INTENDED ON DOING THE FENCE ALL ON ONE SHOT. WE NOW HAVE THE PICTURES AND THE EVIDENCE TO SHOW YOU THAT THEY ARE KNOCKING IT OUT.

THEY ARE GETTING IT ACCOMPLISHED.URE MY CLIENT PASS THAT ON TO THEM. BUT IT MADE LOGICAL SENSE.

THEY WANTED TO PUT ON A 6 FOOT TALL PRIVACY FENCE, RATHER THAN A 3 BOARD RANCH STYLE FENCE WHICH WAS THE BARE MINIMUM IN THE PUD. THEY WANTED TO PUT IN THE STANDARD FENCING THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE IN A KB HOME PROJECT. I THINK THE BIG KEY HERE IS TO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CONVERTING THIS LOT NOT TO BE A PIT BUT BACK TO BEING A LOT AS IT ALWAYS WAS. WITH SOME ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS. MEANING IT CAN ONLY BE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. I THINK THE PUBLIC COMMENT ISN'T DIRECTED TO BE A (INDISCERNIBLE) PIT.

THE PUBLIC IS SAYING YES, WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

PUT IT BACK TO BEING A SINGLE LOT.

JUST MAKE SURE THE FENCING GETS DONE.

AND IN THAT REGARD, WE ARE WILLING TO COMMIT TO THE EXACT RECOMMENDATION PCA MADE. WHICH IS WITHIN 60 DAYS OF NOW, WE WILL HAVE THE FENCING DONE. WE ARE GOOD WITH THAT.

NO PROBLEM. WE WILL ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO THE PUD TEXT. IN FACT, I SENT IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SAY IF THIS COMES UP, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. AND WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO COMMIT TO THAT AND ADDED TO THE PUD TEXT.

NO PROBLEM. THE ONLY REASON WE WOULD ASK FOR ANY TIME IS I THINK THINGS WOULD BE DONE QUICKER THAN OTHERWISE WOULD BECAUSE OF COVERT.

BUT WITHIN 60 DAYS --. >> MR. CHAIR, MAY I INTERJECT JUST FOR A MOMENT TO ASK MR. BURNETT SOMETHING ABOUT THE FENCING? SO MR. BURNETT, THE FENCING, THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT.

SO THE COMMITMENT TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED WITHIN 60 DAYS -- I'D RATHER THAT NOT BE JUST A POTENTIAL CODE ENFORCEMENT IF IT WERE NOT DONE WITHIN 60 DAYS.OULD YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION -- IF THERE WAS A MOTION OR VOTE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION OF INCLUDING THAT AS A CONDITION OF BECOMING EFFECTIVE? THAT FENCING WILL BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITHIN 60 DAYS?

>> I'M LOOKING IN MY CLIENT AND THEY ARE SAYING YES, THAT WOULD

BE ACCEPTABLE. >> PLEASE CONTINUE, MR.

BURNETT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DISCUSS RELATED TO THE REBUTTAL.

MY CLIENT HAS VERY LONG HISTORY HERE.

HAS A VERY LONG CAREER AHEAD OF THEM.

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THEY ARE GOING TO GET IT DONE. IF THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO IT.

THE ISSUE OF THE FENCE, TECHNICALLY, YOU CAN READ THE PUD TEXT AND SAY IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE COMPLETED UNTIL THE HOUSES ARE COMPLETED. BUT WE ARE WILLING TO DO IT IN

60 DAYS. >> IF I MAY AGAIN THROUGH THE CHAIR AS MR. BURNETT A QUESTION.

MR. BURNETT, I DO THINK SOME OF THE PUBLIC WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SCOTT ROAD AND THE CONDITION OF SCOTT ROAD AND THE POSSIBILITY OF SCOTT ROAD. IF, FOR A MOMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MS. (NAME) READ SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT EXCESS?

>> YES. I'M REFERRING TO THE GENERAL CRITERIA FOR REVIEWING PUD REQUESTS AND LDC -- --.

SUBSECTIONS PARTICULARLY PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC AND ACCESS. THERE IS BE ONE REGARDING PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE IN RELATION TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY. THE TRACT SHALL BE SUITABLE OR IT SHALL BE POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE TRACT SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT IN A MANNER PROPOSED WITHOUT HAZARD TO PERSONS OR PROPERTY ON OR OFF THE TRACT.

SUBSECTION F, COMPATIBILITY. PUD DISTRICTS SHALL BE LOCATED AND DESIGNED SO AS TO MINIMIZE THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF EXTERNAL IMPACTS RESULTING FROM FACTORS SUCH AS TRAFFIC, NOISE OR LIGHTS. SUBSECTION H1A PERTAINING TO INTERNAL EXTERNAL RELATIONSHIP AND ACCESS.RINCIPAL VEHICULAR ACCESS POINTS SHALL BE DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE SMOOTH TRAFFIC FLOW WITH CONTROLLED TURNING MOVEMENTS AND MINIMAL HAZARDS TO VEHICULAR OR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

AND SUBSECTION 2H1 -- I'M SORRY, H2 STREETS, DRIVES, PARKING AND SERVICE AREAS. STREETS, DRIVES AND SERVICE AREAS SHALL PROVIDE SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS TO ALL BUILDINGS AND GENERAL FACILITIES.

>> RIGHT. SO MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, GIVEN THAT THERE IS SOME (INDISCERNIBLE) CODE LANGUAGE ABOUT ACCESS AND QUALITY OF ACCESS, IF I MAY, MR. BURNETT YOU HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED ABOUT SCOTT ROAD. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT OFFERED TO THE BOARD TO SATISFY THOSE PUBLIC CONCERNS AFTER HEARING THE PROVISIONS IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY CODE?

>> YET. THE PHOTO THAT YOU SAW OF THE GENTLEMAN STANDING IN STANDING WATER IS ACTUALLY FURTHER DOWN SCOTT ROAD FROM OUR SITE. OUR TRAFFIC WOULDN'T GO THAT DIRECTION. OUR TRAFFIC WOULD GO OUT SCOTT ROAD.HAT GOES TO A DEAD END AT THE END OF SCOTT ROAD.

IT ALSO IS A PHOTO THAT IN PCA YOU CAN SEE VERY CLEARLY WHERE THERE ARE AREAS IN THE ROADWAY WHERE THERE WOULD BE A BIG PUDDLE. YOU CAN ALSO SEE 4 WHEELER MARKS GOING ALL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

AT PCA, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR TO US THAT A 4 WHEELER OR MULTIPLE 4 WHEELER SPECIAL BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE 4 WHEELERS AND THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS OF THEM IN THE RECORD.

IT'S A RURAL AREA. THEY LIKE TO GO TO THE END OF SCOTT ROAD. THERE IS A BIG PARCEL OUT THERE. WE DON'T CONTROL IT.

IT IS NOT OUR PARCEL OR LAND. 4 WHEELERS SPIN OUT AND CREATES A PUBLIC SITUATION. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE CAN'T PROTECT OR DEFEND THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU, THIS ISSUE ON THE DEDICATION OF SCOTT ROAD.

THERE IS A SECTION OF IT THAT POTENTIALLY MY CLIENT OWNS.

I HAVEN'T DONE A TITLE ON IT. I CAN TELL YOU THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IS LOOKING AT. ECAUSE SOMETIME LAST WEEK UNTIL YESTERDAY MORNING, IT CHANGED FROM BEING IDENTIFIED AS BEING OWED BY MY CLIENT TO NOT OWNED BY MY CLIENT.

SO I THINK SOMEBODY IN THE (INDISCERNIBLE) OFFICE PUT A QUESTION MARK TO IT. I KNOW MY CLIENT WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME UP SAID I WILL DEDICATE THAT TO THE COUNTY.

BECAUSE THERE IS A SECTION IN THE MIDDLE THAT APPEARS TO BE OWNED BY THEM. THEY WILL DEDICATE IT TO THE COUNTY. AND WE HEARD FROM ONE SPEAKER TODAY AND PUBLIC COMMENT. HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I'VE HEARD TO SAY -- AND I ALSO SAW HE WROTE IT IN AN EMAIL.

HE SAID DON'T DEDICATE IT TO THE COUNTY.

MANY OF THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING LET'S DO DEDICATE IT TO THE COUNTY. PCA ADDRESSES IF YOU DEDICATE IT TO THE COUNTY, DOES THE COUNTY WANT IT? AND WILL YOU GIVE THE COUNTY SOME TIME TO ANALYZE IF THEY WANT IT? PCA DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR MOTION COMING TO. BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THERE FINE WITH DEDICATING IT TO THE COUNTY.

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>> IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR? DON'T KNOW THE SNSE WOULD BE TO DEDICATE IT AS IS TO THE COUNTY.

NORMALLY, RIGHT, WHEN THERE IS GOING TO BE -- A DEVELOPER DEDICATED OR ROADWAY, ESPECIALLY AS PART OF THE PUD, IT IS BROUGHT UP TO COUNTY STANDARDS AT THE COST OF THE DEVELOPER BEFORE (INDISCERNIBLE) TO THE COUNTY.

BUT MR. BURNETT, I LIKE TO GO BACK TO THAT LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE PD SECTION. THIS IS THE SECTION WE ARE

TALKING ABOUT. >> IS PRIVATELY OWNED, POTENTIALLY. FROM THIS POINT OUT OF SCOTT ROAD IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY. AND FROM THIS POINT AROUND THE

BEND IS ST. JOHNS COUNTY. >> OH MR. BURNETT, THERE IS A PORTION OF SCOTT ROAD THAT IS SERVICING PARTICULARLY THIS PROPOSED LOT, 180 IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND THE PD LANGUAGE PROVIDES FOR STREETS DRIVING PARKING AND SERVICE AREAS.

THEY SHALL PROVIDE SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS TO ALL BUILDINGS AND GENERAL FACILITIES.

JUST FROM READING THAT, THE PUD WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS TO LOT 180.

MY SENSE IS THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE CODE GENERALLY, SHOULD THAT BE EXPRESSLY PROVIDED AS A SHOULD THE BOARD CONSIDER APPROVING THIS APPLICATION TODAY?

>> MR. BURNETT, ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO I WAS JUST LOOKING BACK

AT MY CLIENT. >> I THINK WE HAVE HEARD FROM EVERYONE. I WILL TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS?

>> IF I MIGHT, MR. CHAIR. THIS HAS BEEN GRADED.

AND SOME STABILIZATION PUT IN DURING THE PROJECT.

TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROJECT. WE HAVE DONE AT ONCE.

THE DEVELOPER HAS ONCE ALREADY. JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST?

>> MR. BURNETT, MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU.

SO YOU EXPLAINED BY THE FENCING JUST WENT UP.

WE ARE DISCUSSING FENCING LIKE IT'S A CONDITION OF THIS ITEM.

REALLY, IT WAS THE CONDITION OF THE WORTHINGTON ESTATES PUD.

> CORRECT. >> WHERE'S THE ACCESS POINT FROM SCOTT ROAD INTO THE DEVELOPMENT?

ON THIS MAP? >> THERE IS REALLY NOT ONE.

THIS IS AN EMERGENCY EXCESS. AND THE BENEFIT OF THAT --.

>> SO THE EMERGENCY ACCESS? SO THE EMERGENCY EXCESSES RIGHT

THERE? >> YES, SIR.

RIGHT HERE. >> SO THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES IN THAT HOUSE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD -- SO THIS HOUSE IS OCCUPIED BY AN ELDERLY MAN WHO CANNOT GET OUT OF HIS DRIVEWAY ONTO THE. THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF FLOODING. I'VE DONE A SITE VISIT.

THE WATER COMES DOWN ACCESS POINT.

THERE IS A SLOPE. IT HAS PULLED IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE. AND IF YOU VISIT THE SITE, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE DEEP RUTS IN THAT PART OF SCOTT ROAD.WHICH IS DIRT ON THAT ROAD.

HIS FAMILY HAS CONTENDED THAT IT WAS PAVED OR HAD SOME SORT OF SURFACE THERE PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION ON LIVINGSTON ESTATES. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS, ISN'T IT REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT YOU WOULD RETURN IT TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION? SO THIS ELDERLY GENTLEMAN CAN GET OUT OF HIS HOUSE WITHOUT THE NEED OF A SPECIAL VEHICLE? THERE HAVE BEEN VEHICLES TOWED OUT OF THAT PART OF SCOTT ROAD, ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS BACK THERE.

AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION STOP AND THAT WAS NOT HAPPENING PRIOR TO

CONSTRUCTION. >> 2 THINGS RELATED TO THAT.

MY CLIENT ACTUALLY ASKED COUNTY STAFF ON SITE IF THEY COULD CLEAR SOME OF THE DITCHES OUT. BUT IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR SITE.

AND WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR CONSTRUCTION, THEY TOLD US WE CANNOT CLEAR SOME OF THOSE STITCHES OUT.

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THE COUNTY STAFF SAYS IT WAS NEVER ASPHALTED AND PART OF IT WAS ASPHALTED DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY THOUGH AND OBVIOUSLY THIS LOT NEEDS TO BE SOLD. I ANTICIPATE MY CLIENT DOES STABILIZATION AT LEAST ON THE PORTION THEY OWN OR HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THE STABILIZATION BACK TO THIS LOT, AND OBVIOUSLY COUNTY STAFF IS GOING TO LOOK AT IT AS WE GO THROUGH CONSTRUCTION PLANS. IT'S SAFE TO SAY YOU WILL HAVE ACCESS BACK TO THE LOT BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE VALUE.

AND THE HOUSE BEING SOLD NEXT TO IT AT $12. MILLION IS THE PRICE FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND. OBVIOUSLY THIS LOT AS VALUE AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE IT HAS ACCESS TO MAKE SURE TO BE ABLE TO SELL IT. IF THERE'S TECHNICAL LANGUAGE THAT PATRICK WANTS TO ADD TO PUD TEXT.

WE CAN AGREE TO IT. MR. RITTER AND GRASSIANO CAN

GIVE THE THUMB'S UP. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, MR. MCCORMACK, I UNDERSTAND THE LAND CODE THAT WAS READ.

IS WHAT MR. BURNETT AND THE APPLICANT IS OFFERING.

>> IS THAT STRONG ENOUGH? >> I THINK IT NEEDS SOME TYPE OF EITHER DEADLINE OR TIME PERIOD TO DO THAT.

BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT. BURNETT, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, ACCESS TO 180, THE PROPOSED 180 OUTLINED IN GREEN.

THE ACCESS ON SCOTT ROAD COMES FROM I GUESS, THE NORTHWEST DOWN TO LOT 180. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> AND THAT IS THE STRETCH THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE IMPROVED TO SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS AND I THINK YOU KNOW OUR COUNTY STAFF CAN USE THEIR PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE TO DETERMINE THAT. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD INCLUDE THAT AREA THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED ABOUT THAT GENTLEMEN'S PROPERTY ALONG THE STRETCH. RIGHT?

>> I WANT TO GUARANTEE WE CAN RESOLVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY UNPASSABLE. I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND WE'RE IN FULL VIEW OF THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S SORT OF AN IMPORTANT THING FOR ME TO MAKE SURE MR. SMALL CAN GET IN AND OUT OF HIS HOUSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO CIRCLE THAT SQUARE.

FROM SCOTT ROAD AGAIN, PROCEEDING OUT FROM THE PROPOSED 180 IF THE GO TO THE NORTHWEST, THAT GENTLEMEN'S PROPERTY IS ALONG THAT STRETCH. IS THAT WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND? RIGHT AND THE LANGUAGE WE WOULD PROPOSE AS A CONDITION WHICH WOULD BE ACCEPTED AS THE APPLICANT IS THAT STRETCH WILL USE THE LANGUAGE FROM THE CODE, BUT SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS

WHICH YOU KNOW, TO ME -- >> HAS TO BE SAFE AND HAS TO BE

CONVENIENT. >> UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CURB AND

SAFE AND >> YES, SIR.

>> NO PROBLEM. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I WILL BE PREPARED TO MAKE THIS MOTION THROUGH THE CHAIR --

>> COMMISSIONER DEAN, I'M SORRY, SORRY TO DO THIS FROM THE PHONE.

I WANT TO IF I MAY, IF I CAN BE RECOGNIZED.

>> SURE. I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER GO AHEAD.

>> THAT'S FINE. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT I THINK MR. WHITEHURST SAID EARLIER. I APPRECIATE THE LANDOWNER KIND OF WORKING WITH US. I THINK THIS REALLY BOILS DOWN TO MAKING SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE COMMITMENTS.

THE RESIDENTS THERE THAT I MET WITH HAD DEEP STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE GO FORWARD AS THESE COMMITMENTS ARE BEING MADE, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE OBLIGATIONS ARE. WE'RE NOT CREATING THE SCENARIOS WHERE RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTING SOMETHING, SOMETHING HAS BEEN AGREED TO AND IT'S NOT BEING FOLLOWED THROUGH.

I APPRECIATE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK THIS OUT TODAY.

JUST US AS A BOARD HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THIS.

WHEN PEOPLE AGREE TO THING AND GIVE THEIR WORD, WE'RE FOLLOWING

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JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LOCKER.

>> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

MR. MCCORMACK, DO I NEED TO MAKE IT REFLECT THE CONDITIONS WE DISCUSSED? THERE'S A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE IMPROVING BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND CONDITIONS AND THEN CAN YOU READ THOSE

PROPOSED CONDITIONS. >> YES, TWO CONDITIONS.

ONE, MAJOR WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL THE FENCING REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION G 4 OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE COMPLETE. SECOND CONDITION, IN THE EVENT THAT MAJOR MOD 2021-15 GOES INTO EFFECT, THE DEVELOPER SHALL PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS TO LOT 180

PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT. >> AND I WOULD ADD IN ALONG SCOTT ROAD. RIGHT.

ALONG SCOTT ROAD TO LOT 180. >> OKAY.

SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS ALONG SCOTT ROAD.

>> OKAY. SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO

ENACT ORDINANCE 2021- >> 86.

>> APPROVING MAJOR MODIFICATION 2021-19 WORTHING TON ESTATES BASED ON THE STATEMENTS OF FACT AND THE CONDITIONS READ.

THAT'S THE MOTION. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. I WILL START WITH

WHITEHURST. >> I'M A YES.

>> I WILL VOTE COMMISSIONER

>> >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES, SIR. AND THAT PASSES 4-0 WITH THOSE CONDITIONS WITH THANK YOU.

GENTLEMEN. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

IT IS NOW ALMOST STRAIGHT UP NOON.

I WOULD LIKE TO POLL THE BOARD FOR A SECOND.

THE NEXT ITEM MAKE TAKE A FEW MINUTES.

ADLER CREEK COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. ARE THERE ANY PUBLICS OF THE

[4. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2020-02 Adler Creek (Adoption).]

I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THE ATTORNEY IS HERE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE UP ITEM FOUR AND NOT HAVE TO BREAK BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL MORNING.

IF THAT'S OKAY WITH US. LET'S DO ITEM 4 AND THEN WE WILL PROBABLY TAKE A BREAK, A SHORT BREAK AFTER WE GET THROUGH ITEM FOUR. OKAY.

YES, MA'AM. EXCUSE ME.

GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, IT IS AFTERNOON NOW. IT FEELS GOOD TO STAND UP SO THANK YOU. ELLEN AVERY TAYLOR.

HERE WITH ME ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM THE BISETA FAMILY AND THE CONTRACT PURCHASERS, TOM DODSON AND ART LANCASTER.

OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, JASON MILTON AND TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER RAJA. I WILL GO AS QUICKLY AS I CAN BECAUSE I THINK YOU HEARD A LOT OF THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE.

AT OUR TRANSMITTAL HEARING. SO WE'RE HERE FOR ADOPTION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION FOR THIS 733 ACRES THAT IS LOCATED EAST OF THE BISETA ROAD AND NEAR SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 16 AND NORTH OF 208. WE'RE HERE FOR TWO THINGS.

A MAP AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF 131 ACRES OF THE PROPERTY FROM RURAL CIVIL CULTURE TO CONSERVATION WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT MORE IN A MINUTE AND CHANGE THE OTHER 602 TO C.

WHICH LIMITS THE MAXIMUM DENSITY TO 1682 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

AND THEN THIS ALSO PROJECT WOULD PROPOSE THE CONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 1 MILE SEGMENT OF COUNTY ROAD 2209 FROM STATE ROAD

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THIS IS TUPELO MITIGATION BANK AND OTHERS ARE FURTHER TO THE SOUTH AND WEST. CONTINUING THAT LINE OF CONSERVATION THROUGH THAT REGION.

AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE ROADWAY MAP.

THIS IS FOR EAST LAND TO CONSTRUCT THIS APPROXIMATELY 1 MILE SEGMENT OF 2209 TO HERE AND THREE MILES SORRY OF ADLER CREEK PARK WAY DOWN THROUGH ADLER CREEK TO CONNECT TO PACETTI ROAD. THAT WILL BE COLLECTOR ROADS SO THERE WILL BE NO DRIVEWAYS LOCATED ON THIS ROAD WITHIN THE ADLER CREEK COMMUNITY. SO AGAIN APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE OF 2209 WILL BE A TWO-LANE SEGMENT.

ESTIMATED COST IS $7.4 MILLION AND THE APPROXIMATELY THREE MILES OF ADLER CREEK PARK WAY WHICH IS A PUBLIC ROAD WHICH WILL BE A COLLECTOR ROAD, TWO LANES WILL COST $15.5 MILLION TO CONSTRUCT. SO THE TOTAL PROJECT ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION IS ALMOST $23 MILLION.

THE ROADS WILL BE BUILT AS COUNTY COLLECTORS SO NO RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS WILL ACCESS OFF THE ROADS.

THEY WILL BE TRUE COLLECTOR ROADS TO SERVE THE REGIONAL ROADWAY NETWORK AND A 12 FOOT MULTIPURPOSE PATH ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD ON ADLER AND 2209. SO YOU CAN TIE PACETTI ROAD INTO 16 WITH A FOUR MILE STRETCH OF BIKING, WALKING MULTIPURPOSE PATH. THE ADLER CREEK CDD OR HOA WILL MAINTAIN THE RIGHTS OF WAY FOR LANDSCAPING, IRRIGATION THAT KIND OF A THING. SO REALLY THE PROJECT IS CONTRIBUTING ABOUT 12.5, THEY WILL GET $12.5 MILLION, I KEEP FUDGING MY WORDS IN TRANSPORTATION SHARE CREDIT.

100% OF THE COST OF 2209 AND ONLY 33% OF THE COST FOR ADLER CREEK PARK WAY. YOU'RE GETTING 67% OF A ROAD AT THE DEVELOPER'S COST. THE PROPORTION AT SHARE IS $11.6 MILLION. SO THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION COSTS EVEN THE DEVELOPERS PORTION THAT BENEFITS THE PUBLIC EXCEEDS THE SHARE FOR THE PROJECT.

>> IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR WHO I THINK IS IN THE POWDER ROOM ASK MS. ELLEN AVERY SMITH A QUESTION AT THIS POINT.

SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT BENEFIT, I GUESS THE 12.5 IS HIGHER THAN THE 11.6. SO THAT'S A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY. CAN YOU CLARIFY TO THE BOARD WHETHER THAT EXTRA $.9 MILLION OR $900,000, THE APPLICANT WILL BE ASKING FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR THOSE?

>> YES. SO YOU WILL BE ASKING FOR IMPACT

FEE CREDITS? >> FOR THE $12.5 MILLION, YES.

>> RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY TO THE BOARD. IT'S TRUE THE 12.5 MILLION IS HIGHER THAN THE $11.6 MILLION BUT THE APPLICANT WILL BE ASKING FOR CREDITS FOR THAT THANK

>> CORRECT. >> PROCEEDING FORWARD.

THE SCHOOL, HERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE 100 ACRE SCHOOL SITE.

IT DOES TOUCH STATE ROAD 16 IN THIS AREA AND TOUCHING THE FUTURE ALIGNMENT OF 2209 IN THIS AREA.

EVEN IF THE COUNTY TAKES THE TIME TO BUILD THE ROAD, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM STATE ROAD 16.

AGAIN, THE RESERVING THE 100 ACRE HIGH SCHOOL SITE IS FOR THE SCHOOL MITIGATION. THE SITE ALLOWS CONNECTION TO 16

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>> HERE'S THE PRELIMINARY -- >> I'M SORRY, THROUGH THE CHAIR.

YOU SAID LAND DONATION. IS THAT A DONATION OR IS IT A

DEDICATION? >> UNDER THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE LAW, THE DEVELOPER CAN GET CREDIT FOR PROPORTIONATE SHARE FOR LAND DONATION, CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE -- FOR

THE BENEFIT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT DONATION IS FOR CREDIT.

I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THE BOARD.

>> YES. ANYWAY.

HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN AGAIN.

HERE THIS IS ADLER CREEK PARK WAY COMING THROUGH THE PARK WAY TO CONNECT TO PACETTI ROAD. THIS IS THE HOME SITE NOT PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPLICATION.

IT'S PART OF A DIFFERENT APPLICATION.

ALSO YOU SEE THE PRESERVED WETLANDS WITHIN THE BODY OF THE PROPERTY IF YOU WILL AND THEN YOU SEE THE CONSERVED WETLANDS THAT STAY UNDER THE CONVERSATION LAND ASSOCIATION WITH TURN BALL CREEK. I AM GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT EDGES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN A MINUTE BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ENHANCED AFTER SPEAKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.

WE WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD ADDITIONAL MITIGATION IF YOU WILL, ADDITIONAL COMPATIBILITY CONTRIBUTION THAT WILL BE PROVIDED BY THIS PROJECT. THERE IS A COMPANION PUD APPLICATION IN THE SYSTEM. IT'S LAGGING BEHIND THIS APPLICATION BUT A LOT OF WHAT I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU IS IN THE PUD TEXT AS WELL. SO THE PROJECT WILL CONSERVE THAT 131 ACRES OF WETLANDS AND UPLANDS ASSOCIATED WITH TURN BALL CREEK. IT PRESERVES ANOTHER 90 ACRES OF CONTIGUOUS WETLANDS INTERNAL TO THE SEA PORTION AND THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES WITHIN BUFFER AREAS IN THE PROJECT AND CLUSTERS THAT DENSITY INTO THE UPPER LAND AREA, THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT IS LESS THAN 3.5 UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT GOES TO THE TEXT POLICY THAT ACCOMPANIES THIS TEXT PLAN COMP AMENDMENT TO MAKE THIS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING DENSITIES OF RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE HEARD A LOT FROM RESIDENTS OF GRAND LAKE. THEY HAVE A SIMILAR DENSITY TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST AND TRAIL MARK WHICH IS JUST ACROSS PACETTI ROAD HERE. WITH RESPECT TO JUST GOING INTO THE PRESERVATION OF THIS LARGE EXTENT OF WET LAND.

IT TAKES UP A LOT OF THE LAND WITHIN THE PROPERTY IN FACT THERE'S NOT MUCH PRESERVATION THAT HAPPENS, THAT'S A DISTINGUISHING CHARACTER OF THIS COMMUNITY AS PRESERVING A LARGE MEMBER IT OF WET LAND ACRES IN PERPE TUITY.

THIS IS WRITTEN IN THE PUD TEXT. WE'RE SAYING IT FOR THE RECORD TODAY. ADLER CREEK WILL INCREASE THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT EDGE, REQUIRED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 35 FEET TO 50 FEET ADJACENT TO GRAND LAKE WHICH IS AND I WILL GO BACK TO THAT COMMUNITY LOCATION.

SO THIS IS GRAND LAKE HERE. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A 50 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE ADJACENT TO GRAND LAKE AND THAT IS SCAFF ROAD, THAT 50 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE WILL CONTINUE ON THE ADLER CREEK SIDE ALONG THIS WHOLE WESTERN EXTENT OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO THAT'S BEEN DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS. ALSO ON GRAND LAKE SIDE, THEY HAVE A 35 FOOT REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT EDGE REQUIRED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OUR CLIENT HAS REACHED OUT TO THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, GRAND LAKE'S DEVELOPMENT EDGE IS CLEAR OF VEGETATION. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY CLEARED OR CLEARED TODAY.

IN EITHER EVENT OUR CLIENT WILL WORK WITH THE GRAND LAKES HOA TO PROVIDE VEGETATION AND TREE PLANTINGS WITHIN THEIR 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE SO THESE PEOPLE IN GRAND LAKE WILL HAVE 55 FEET OF DEVELOPMENT EDGE BETWEEN THEIR LOTS AND THE ADLER CREEK

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THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WE WERE TALKING TO IN THE LOBBY AND REITERATING THAT TO THEM AS WELL AS THIS BOARD TODAY.

I THINK MR. LANCASTER IS GOING TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE TO MAKE SURE THEY GET IN CONTACT WITH THE HOA PRESIDENT OR MANAGEMENT COMPANY ABOUT THE VEGETATION PLANNING.

ALSO WE PROMISED THE PEOPLE WITHIN GRAND LAKES AND WITHIN SCAFF ROAD THERE WILL BE NO INTERCONNECTION BETWEEN GRAND LAKE AND ADLER CREEK. THERE WILL BE NO INTERCONNECTION TO SCAFF ROAD FROM THIS PROJECT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE COUNTY CAN'T USE SCAFF ROAD BUT ADLER CREEK PROPER WILL NOT ACCESS THROUGH GRAND LAKE. ALSO IN A FINAL NOTE, THERE ARE SEVERAL RESIDENTS PARTICULARLY ALONG SCAFF ROAD AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING GRAND LAKE MAY HAVE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE DRAINAGE DITCHES WITH THE NON-ADLER CREEK OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THEY'RE HAVING DRAINAGE ISSUES, OUR CLIENT'S TEAM IS GOING TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PUBLIC WORKING FROM ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS GONE OUT AND LOOKED AT THIS CONDITION.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO SOLVE WHATEVER DRAINAGE ISSUES FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CAN BE SOLVED BY THE ADLER CREEK DEVELOPER. IN SUMMARY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $34.2 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES COLLECTED FROM THIS PROJECT.

AND SUBMITTED ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES OF ABOUT $4.9 MILLION.

>> MR. CHAIR. SORRY TO INTERJECT ONCE MORE WHILE IT'S FRESH. WHEN YOU SAY ESTIMATED TOTAL IMPACT FEES COLLECTED. DOES THAT MEAN ACTUALLY COLLECTED OR COULD THERE BE PERHAPS CREDITS PURCHASED ELSEWHERE? COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR THE

BOARD. >> WELL THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE ITS OWN ROAD IMPACT FEES DUE. THE ROAD IMPACT FEES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WILL FAR EXCEED THE ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS THAT WILL BE OBTAINED FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE

>> THANK YOU. >> YES.

THAT'S JUSTA POINT OUT. THOSE ARE DOLLARS FROM THIS PROJECT THAT WILL GO INTO THE COUNTY'S COFFERS WITH THE BUILD OUT OF 1682 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. AGAIN THE PUBLIC BENEFITS.

THIS IS ALL IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE.

THE 100 ACRE HIGH SCHOOL SITE. THE CONSTRUCTION OF A REGIONAL SIGNIFICANT ROAD SYSTEM. THE WATER SYSTEM WITH A LOOPED SYSTEM THAT WILL HELP FIRE FLOW AND WATER PRESSURE.

THE MULTIPURPOSE PATH ALONG ADLER AND 2209 AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES THAT EXIST WITHIN THE PROPERTY TODAY. THERE'S ALSO WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE WET LAND PRESERVATION.

THERE'S FLOOD PLAIN PRESERVATION AND ALL OF THAT AND PRESERVATION OF THE HABITAT AS PART OF THE SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITIES.

THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES ARE FOUND AND PAYING PROPERTY TAXES TO THE COUNTY'S COFFERS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, AS JUST A REMINDER.

THIS BOARD VOTED TO TRANSMIT THIS APPLICATION TO STATE AGENCIES. WE GOT COMMENT FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT SAYING THEY HAVE NO COMMENTS.

THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY COMMENT WE RECEIVED.

WE WENT TO PZA ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU ADOPT THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU DO SO TODAY AND HAVE A WHOLE PROJECT TEAM HERE TODAY IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US OR THE RESIDENTS HAVE QUESTIONS OF US. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OR COMMENTS? OKAY.

WE'RE START PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FOUR.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FOUR. PLEASE.

THREE MINUTES AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> IF ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

APPROACH ONE OF THE OPEN PODIUMS. YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> MORGAN OLDS. 5005 SCAFF ROAD.

IT DOESN'T SEEM JUST TO ME TO MOVE FORWARD AS SCHEDULED WITH THE MAJOR MOD IN A DRASTIC REZONING THAT IS AGAINST THE COUNTY'S PLAN WHEN DISTRICT TWO DOESN'T HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THE BCC BOARD CURRENTLY. FIRST THE GOOD.

I HAVE BEEN HEARTENED BY MR. LANCASTER'S ABILITY TO COME VISIT MY HORSE FARM. I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE PLANS THAT INCORPORATE THE BUFFERS ON MY PROPERTY.

I DIDN'T SEE IT HERE TODAY BUT I GUESS IT'S COMING LATER AS THE

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AND HAS ONLY BEEN WORSENING SINCE THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

I KNOW THE COUNTY PLAN SAYS THE NEW PROJECT CANNOT HAVE A FLOODING IMPACT ON THE LAND. THE BIG OAK TREE THAT STOOD IN MY PASTURE BEFORE IT WAS CLEARED AS A HORSE FARM IS TESTAMENT TO THAT. BACKED UP WITH THE GRAND LAKE DITCH THAT OAK, OLD ENOUGH TO BE MATURE 30 YEARS AGO DROWNED THIS YEAR. I DO STILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THIS PLAN.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALL RULE TO THE EAST AND SOUTH AND PARTS TO THE NORTH AND LOTS LIKE MINE AND ONE AND 60 ACRES AND ONE SECTION OF RESIDENTIAL B DENSITY THAT IS GRAND LAKE.

SO WHEN THE LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR A COMPATIBILITY USES AND LIKE DENSITIES. I FIND IT HARD TO FIND 80% AND 20% COMES OUT TO RESIDENCE C. MS. C TALKED ABOUT MIR BELLA USING ALL THEIR LAND. THOSE WERE ALREADY UPLANDS WITHOUT WETLANDS TO RESERVE AND THE BUFFER AREA WIN GRAND LAKE COULD BE PLANTED WITH TREES. THAT BUFFER AREA IS PART OF THE WHAT WOULD BE THE MAINTENANCE EASEMENT FOR THE DITCH THAT HASN'T BEEN MAINTAINED. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY STEEPLE CHASE WITH 980 HOMES, SOME OF WHICH WERE AGE RESTRICTED, THAT WAS SAID TO BE THAT AS TO NOT BREAK PACETTI ROAD.

WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE MOST RECENT PZA MEETING.

MS. SMITH SAID THAT WASN'T A FAIR COMPARISON BECAUSE THAT INCLUDED THE SCHOOL. IT HAD BEEN REMOVED AT THE TIME WHEN THAT WAS PRESENTED AND THOSE COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT BREAKING PACETTI ROAD AND IT WAS SAID AT THAT TIME BY PZA MEMBERS WE'RE JUST SATURATED AND HAVE A BROKEN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE ONLY HAD NEWER HOMES. >> THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> MY NAME IS JOSH TRACE. I LIVE AT 270 WHISTLING RUN IN THE GRAND LAKE AREA. I WISH I COULD GIVE MY THREE MINUTES TO HER BECAUSE SHE SO WELL PREPARED.

JUST WANTED TO VOICE THE MAIN CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE LAKE MEMBERS AND THEY ARE THAT PACETTI CAN'T HANDLE TRAFFIC FROM THE FEEDER THAT WILL COME OFF ADLER CREEK.

THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE AND I FEEL IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED. I THINK 2019.

BUT, THERE IS SOME REASSURANCE THAT THE ADLER CREEK PARK WAY WILL RELIEVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I WILL SAY THAT THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. LANCASTER WAS A VERY HELPFUL AS WELL AS THEIR REPRESENTATION. MS., I FORGET HER NAME.

SORRY. I FORGOT YOUR NAME.

>> ELLEN. YES.

ELLEN. SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE COMMUNICATION. MY FEAR IS THAT MEETINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN. WE ALL COME TOGETHER.

THERE SEEMS TO BE THINGS IN THE PAST THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED.

THEY ARE BROUGHT UP. HOW DO WE THEN MAKE SURE THE DEVELOPMENT IS DONE IN A PROPER WAY AND THAT THERE IS A MEANS TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. THE EXAMPLE OF GRAND LAKE TO BUILD A SIDEWALK AND REMOVE THE CONCRETE DUMP THEY HAVE.

AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT. MR. LANCASTER SAID HE WOULD BE NICE ENOUGH TO CALL THERE AND MAKE SURE THEY DO.

BUT THEY HAVE BASICALLY NOT BEEN RESPONDING TO THE GRAND LAKE HOA FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. SO, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CONCERNS WE HAVE THAT THINGS GET KIND OF LEFT IN THE DUST OVER TIME. AS YOU KNOW THE INCENTIVE GOES AWAY TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP DO THE WORK THAT'S NECESSARY TO BE DONE. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW CAN WE FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE DONE? THE OTHER CONCERN I JUST WANT TO SHARE IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES OR MINUTE. IS THAT THE EASTERN BORDER OF GRAND LAKE, THE WESTERN EDGE OF ADLER CREEK THAT THE BUFFER ZONE

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WE HAVE TREES THAT ARE CLOSE TO 75 FEET TALL.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM CUT DOWN TO HAVE NEW TREES PUT IN.

WE DID HAVE REASSURANCES FROM ELLEN AND MR. LANCASTER THAT WON'T BE THE CASE. THAT'S REASSURING.

THE OTHER CONCERN IS JUST ABOUT THE ZONING.

IT WAS SHARED WITH US THAT THE REASON FOR THE ZONING BEING MORE CONDENSED IS BECAUSE OF THE WETLANDS BUT I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT

THE MORE DENSE ZONING. >> THANK YOU.

>> I AGREE. PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST.

ED SLAVEN. THIS IS A CASE OF DEFORESTATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. JEB SMITH RESIGNED AND NOW PART OF THE FARM BUREAU. OUT OF COMEDY FOR EACH OTHER.

PLEASE DENY THE APPLICATION. I WAS HORRIFIED TO HEAR ABOUT THE DROWNING OAK TREE. WE ARE DESTROYING OUR ENVIRONMENT IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK 100 NATIONS JUST AGREED TO STOP DEFORESTATION BY 2030. ST. JOHNS COUNTY NEEDS TO JOIN THE LIST. WE NEED TO HAVE LEGAL COUNCIL GIVE US ADVICE HOW TO DO THAT. IT WILL BE DONE.

THE PEOPLE DEMAND IT. WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE IS A COOLING OFF PERIOD OF ALL THESE MASSIVE OVER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE BUILT TO SEE HOW THEY GO.

TO SEE HOW THEY'RE RUN. IT'S A HUMAN EXPERIMENT.

A PH.D. IN OAK RIDGE, TENNESSEE TOLD ME OAK RIDGE, TENNESSEE, WAS THE BIGGEST CANCER EXPERIMENT IN THE COUNTRY BY THE GOVERNMENT. WE ARE MAKING AN EXPERIMENT WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES AND FORTUNES AND SACRED HONOR.

COULD WE HAVE FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER COME IN AND SAY WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS AND INVESTORS? IT IS MR. PUTIN? THE UKRAINE? WE HAVE MONEY LAUNDERING IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY IN FLORIDA. MONEY COMES IN AS FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONER BEN RICH EXPLAINED TO ME.

ANYONE CAN CALL THEMSELVES A DEVELOPER.

YOU DON'T NEED A LICENSE. THEY HIRE LAWYERS AND RETAIN POLITICIANS. THIS IS SINISTER.

EVERYBODY HERE TODAY HAS BEEN AGREEING WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT HAS BEEN HEARD. PLEASE VOTE NO.

LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. AND LET'S GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. I APPRECIATE MS. SMITH PUTTING MONEY IN CONSERVATION. PUTTING THE LAND IN CONSERVATION. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ACTUAL NEGOTIATION. Y'ALL DON'T NEGOTIATE VERY WELL AT ALL. WHEN YOU DEAL WITH MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS AND INVESTORS AND DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

LET'S KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING THESE SPECIAL FAVOR IT IS. WE KNOW THAT ROGERS TOWERS GOT

TWO MILLION -- >> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU KEEP

YOUR COMMENTS TO THE ITEM. >> TO ROSE KENNEDY'S FAVORITE BIBLE VERSES. TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN IS EXPECTED. WE EXPECT MORE FROM YOU GENTLEMEN TO ASK QUESTIONS, DEMAND ANSWERS AND EXPECT DEMOCRACY. WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN HERE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE? COME ON.

THAT DOG WON'T HUNT. THAT'S JUST WRONG.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. 8 NEW COME STREET.

JUST BRINGING THIS UP. I DO REALLY, REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE MR. MCCORMACK SAYING ABOUT THIS ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS. THIS IS CONFUSING ME.

I'M HAVING TO LEARN THIS STUFF. OKAY.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PAY.

FORGET ABOUT THE CREDITS. THE CREDITS, CREDIT TO ME MEANS WE DON'T GET THE MONEY. DO WE GET THE MONEY FROM SOME PLACE WITH THE CREDIT OR DO WE NOT GET THE MONEY? WHO GETS THE MONEY. THE BUILDER NEEDS TO TELL, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY. DON'T BRING IN THIS CREDIT UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO GET CREDIT FROM SOME PLACE ELSE.

I APPRECIATE MR. WALDRON FROM THE LAST MEETING BRINGING UP THE SAME THING ABOUT THESE CREDITS FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

TALK ABOUT THREE THINGS. GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER ONE

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I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT, THE PZA DID A 4-1 VOTE.

I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF YOU GET TO LOOK AT. BUT, I FIND IT INTERESTING WHEREVER DEVELOPERS OR ANYONE COMES IN HERE.

THEY'RE ALWAYS QUICK TO SAY IT'S UNANIMOUS.

AT THE PZA WHICH IS NICE. WE LIKE TO HEAR THAT.

BUT THEN WHENEVER YOU DON'T GET A UNANIMOUS, THEY FORGET TO TELL US WHAT THE REAL VOTE IS. 3-3.

4-1. BECAUSE THERE'S A REASON THERE'S SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE SOMETIMES EVEN IN THIS ROOM.

NOT GOING ALONG WITH THE WHOLE VOTE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT ON THE THING THAT WENT TO THE PZA AND THE IMPACT FEES AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE OF THESE 1682 HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT.

WE WILL NEVER GET ENOUGH MONEY IN PROPERTY TAXES.

THEY CAN TELL US HOW MUCH WE WILL BENEFIT AND THE SCHOOLS.

WE WILL NEVER CATCH UP FOLKS. WE'RE BEHIND.

I'M NOT GOING TO DWELL ON THAT. IT'S JUST THE WAY OF LIFE HERE.

OKAY. AND JUST FOR THE SECOND GUY THAT GOT UP. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING HER HOMEWORK. THE FIRST LADY THAT GOT UP GETS AN A PLUS FOR DOING HER HOMEWORK AND BRINGING IT UP HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE

TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM FOUR? >> YES, MA'AM.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

>> ANN OLDS. 251 SOUTH METANSIS BOULEVARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

I'M TRYING TO PUT MY PHONE DOWN HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BOTHERED ME FROM THE BEGINNING OF LOOKING AT THE FIRST PRESENTATIONS OF THE MAPS AND SO FORTH THAT WERE PRESENTED BY MS. SMITH IS THAT THE STREET WHERE THE PROPERTY THAT I OWN WITH MY DAUGHTER ARE SCAFF ROAD IS LUMPED IN WITH THE RESIDENTIAL B AND IT IS NOT THAT.

SO I TRIED TO SHOW WITH THE THIS PINK AREA, WE DID OUR OWN OVER LAY. THESE MORE PINK THAN WHAT IS SHOWN HERE. ALL OF THESE AREAS THAT ARE IN THE PINK ZONE ARE ONE ACRE, TO 60 ACRES WORTH OF PROPERTY THAT THE LANDOWNERS HAVE. WE ONLY HAVE 13 ACRES BUT IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL B. YOU KNOW I FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE OUR SLICE OF HEAVEN IN THAT OPEN RURAL JUST IN THE TIME WE MOVED THERE. WE KNEW ABOUT GRAND LAKE.

THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE PLAN AND I WAS AWARE OF THAT.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE TRICKED OR ANYTHING BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. BUT, WHEN YOU SEE ALL OF THE OTHER HOW FAST THINGS GET RE-- THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS HAVING THE PLAN AND THEN WE MODIFY IN A MAJOR WAY THE PLAN, THEN OUR COUNTY, THAT SECTION OF THIS COUNTY IS SO SATURATED IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO TAKE HOLD IN A WAY THAT THINGS GET SLOWED DOWN. AND I AGREE WITH MY DAUGHTER THAT MR. LANCASTER HAS BEEN A MAN OF HIS WORD, WHICH TO ME SEEMS YOU KNOW A WELCOME CHANGE. THAT OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROMISED HAVE NOT MANAGED TO COME THROUGH TO FRUITION AND YOU KNOW WE'RE, LIKE I SAY, DEALING WITH LEFT OVER GOOD INTENTIONS OF A PREVIOUS SET OF DEVELOPERS AND HOME BUILDERS THAT SHOWED US THAT YOU CAN'T TRUST WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU.

AND EVEN HERE TODAY WITH THAT EARLIER COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PROMISED THINGS BY DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS AND THEY DON'T HAPPEN. I WAS SO HEARTENED TO HEAR SOMETHING GETS SAID THAT IS GOING TO BE, YOU HAVE

>> THANK YOU. >> MR. CHAIR.

MS. HOLDS, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS A MAP YOU PERHAPS HAD MADE.

COULD YOU TALK WITH OUR CLERK AND MAYBE E-MAIL

>> YES. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM FOUR. PUBLIC COMMENT.

SEEING NONE. I THINK WE ARE CLOSED FOR PUBLIC

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COMMENT. >> MS. SMITH ANY COMMENTS? JUST BRIEFLY. ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF TOM DODSON AND ART LANCASTER. THEY ARE THE DEVELOPERS ARE BARTRUM PARKS AND THEY ARE GENTLEMEN OF THEIR WORDS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU HAVE A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.

THERE WILL BE A 50 FOOT EDGE THAT WILL BE VEGETATED ALONG THE GRAND LAKES WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE WILL BE A 50 FOOT UNDISTURBED DEVELOPMENT EDGE ADJACENT TO THE LOTS THAT BORDER ON THIS PROPERTY ALONG SCAFF ROAD. THERE WILL BE NO CONNECTION TO SCAFF ROAD. THERE WILL BE NO CONNECTION TO GRAND LAKES. ALL OF THIS IS ALSO IN THE PUD.

YOU HAVE IN WRITING AND TODAY TESTIMONY THAT THERE WILL BE A ROAD, ADLER CREEK PARK WAY TO CONNECT FROM PACETTI ROAD TO 2209. SO ALL OF THAT IS ON THE RECORD AND WE HOPE THAT'S BENEFICIAL WE'RE ADDING, I'M SORRY THAT ADLER CREEK IS ADDING A REGIONAL SIGNIFICANT ROAD AND BUILDING PORTION OF 2209. I DO HAVE TO AGREE MORGAN OLDS GETS AN A PLUS. SHE IS VERY SMART AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT SHE COMES TO THE MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATES.

IT'S BEEN DELIGHTFUL TO GET TO KNOW HER AND HER MOM.

I KNOW MR. LANCASTER WILL WORK WITH HER AND THE GRAND LAKES PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER CAN BE DONE FOR THE DRAINAGE OF ADLER CREEK AND ALSO WORK WITH THE HOA FROM THE GRAND LAKES NEIGHBORHOOD TO SOLVE WHATEVER ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING.

SO MAYBE IT CAN BE A COMMUNITY WIDE EFFORT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER

QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD JUST, WHAT IS THE TIMING OF 2209 ADLER CREEK? HAS THAT BEEN DETERMINED YET? LIKE IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER

OF UNITS? >> IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT, SO, LET ME GO BACK TO THE MAP. SO THE IDEA IS THAT SORRY.

THE ROAD, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS ROAD THROUGH TO GET IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL START ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE SITE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO START BUILDING THE ROAD CONCURRENTLY WITH THE START OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU SHOULD GET THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY SHOULD GET THIS ROAD UP FRONT AND THE ROAD WILL CONTINUE AS THE PROJECT PROGRESSES TO THE

SOUTH AND ULTIMATELY CONNECT TO >> WILL THE COUNTY OWN THE ROAD

INSIDE ADLER CREEK? >> YES.

IT WILL BE A REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT ROAD CONNECTING ALL THE WAY THROUGH. IT WILL BE A COLLECTOR ROAD.

NO DRIVEWAYS OFF OF IT. >> AND YOU'RE GOING TO LEAD A NATURAL BUFFER ON THE ONE SIDE 50 FEET.

THE OTHER SIDE IS ALREADY CLEARED BY GRAND LAKE?

>> CORRECT. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MAP TOO ALSO, SO, THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S GOING TO BE 50 FEET.

ALL THE WAY ALONG HERE. BUT THEN IF YOU HERE, HERE'S GRAND LAKE IN THIS AREA. THEY HAVE A 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE TOO. I HEARD THERE A COMMENT ABOUT A DRAINAGE DITCH. MR. LANCASTER WILL WORK WITH THE HOA TO FUND A DEVELOPMENT. THEY WILL HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF NOT PLANTING IN THAT DITCH OR DOING WHATEVER WORK THEY NEED TO DO IN THAT DITCH TO MAINTAIN THEIR COMMUNITIES DRAINAGE

SYSTEM. >> WILL ADLER CREEK CLEAR ALL

THE WAY TO THE BOUNDARY? >> OH, NO.

IS THAT COMPLETELY VEGETATED? >> THE 50 FEET WILL BE COMPLETELY VEGETATED AS IT SITS. AS ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN WHO SPOKE, AND I THINK HIS FIRST NAME IS JOSH.

I THINK HE SAID HIS LAST NAME WAS RACE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 50 FOOT TALL TREES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE. SO THEY WILL NOT BE CLEARED OUT.

THAT WILL BE LEFT IN THE NATURAL STATE BECAUSE THE TREES OUT THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL ON THE ADLER CREEK SIDE OF THE LINE.

>> JUST MAKING >> YES IT IS.

COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

MS. OLDS SAID SHE WAS ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY THE DRAINAGE OF THE GRAND LAKE DEVELOPMENT. SHE SEEMS PREPARED AND KNOWS HER STUFF. WHAT SPECIFIC STEPS ARE YOU

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>> I WILL LEAD OUR ENGINEER BRAD DAVIS TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. BRAD JACKSON.

ENGINEER. WE HAVE TAKEN SEVERAL STEPS, COMMISSIONER. IN ADDITION TO MR. LANCASTER MEETING WITH THE FAMILY. WE HAVE MET WITH ST. JOHNS PUBLIC WORKS TO DISCUSS SCAFF ROAD AND THE DRAINAGE DITCH ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF GRAND LAKE.

THERE'S TOO MANY GRANDS AROUND HERE.

SO, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE WITH MAINTENANCE OF THE DITCH THAT RESIDES WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE THAT IS MAKING THIS FAMILY SUFFER AS IT RELATES TO DRAINAGE.

WE HAVE MET AND LOOKED AT LIDAR TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN RE-ENGAGE THE DITCH AND GET POSITIVE OUT FALL.

WITHOUT ACTUAL TOPOGRAPHY WHICH WE HAVE NOT GONE TO THAT LEVEL.

WE CAN'T PROVE WITH CERTAINTY WE CAN GO THAT WAY.

BUT WE WILL MAKE THE DITCH GO WEST AS BEST WE CAN ASK ACCEPT WATER ON OUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WE WILL DO THAT AS WELL. WHATEVER THE CONDITIONS WOULD ALLOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT EFFORT TO DO THAT.

WE WORKED OUT WITH PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL AS THE FAMILY SO FAR.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. I LIKE SOMEBODY FROM OUR STAFF, PUBLIC WORK STAFF TO COME UP. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY BACK THERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS? I SAW MR. CALDWELL.

NOBODY BACK THERE. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD SOME SORT OF CONFIRMATION THE PLAN IN PLACE WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS IS IN FACT, WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE? WE'RE IN THE ENTITLEMENT PHASE AND THERE'S ANOTHER PHASE.

WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE AND MS. OLDS THAT THE PLAN AS WELL INTENDED AS IT IS, WHAT IS THE BACKUP PLAN.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FAMILY IS NOT ADVERSELY IMPACTED AND INSURE EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS.

>> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE SITUATION SHE'S EXPERIENCING NOW HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ADLER CREEK.

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE EXISTING CONDITION IN THE SCAFF ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTED TO BY GRAND LAKE. THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ADLER CREEK. I BELIEVE WHAT BRAD IS TALKING ABOUT IS JUST HAVING ADLER CREEK TRY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IF ADLER CREEK CAN TAKE WATER, CAN DIVERT WATER. THAT'S MY LAYPERSON WAY OF

SAYING IT. >> THE ISSUES THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH TODAY IS OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AND OUR LAND HOLDER OR THE SELLER LAND HOLDER CONTROL. IT'S ENTIRELY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND PROVIDE THEM OPTIONS TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. THAT CAN COME IN HELPING THEM CLEAR THE DITCH.

GET TO GO WEST AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND WE CAN PROVIDE MEETING MINUTES IF THAT'S HELPFUL TO YOU. IF WE CAN'T ACCEPT THE WATER, IF THE TOPOGRAPHY ALLOWS WORK FROM OUR WAY AS WELL.

>> I THINK WITH YOU GUYS ONLY BE ADLER CREEK.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET ASSURANCE YOUR PROJECT WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME EFFECT AS GRAND LAKE DID. TO MR. CONRAD, I WOULD LIKE US TO THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS GET OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER ADVERSE IMPACTS OF GRAND LAKE HAPPEN THAT WE TAKE CARE OF IT. IF IT'S THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY OR GRAND LAKE'S RESPONSIBILITY WE ENFORCE

THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. SINCE I AM DISTRICT 5 COMMISSIONER, I AM ONLY ABOUT A STRONG 3-WOOD AWAY FROM THIS SITE WHICH IS IN DISTRICT 2. I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY QUITE A FEW I'M GUESSING ISSUES COMING UP INCLUDING LAND USE ISSUES IN DISTRICT TWO.

WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE GOVERNOR MAY APPOINT SOMEBODY TO FULFILL THAT. I CERTAINLY FOR ONE AM PREPARED TO GO FORWARD. IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY UP DOWN OR WHATEVER ON GOING WE NEED TO ACT ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION AND NOT DELAY THE ACTIONS BECAUSE OF THE VACANCY AND THE DISTRICT 2 SEAT. SO, WITH THAT SAID, ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, I AM PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND ALSO THE REGION. AND I CAN SAY THIS, I THINK THIS SITE IS BASICALLY A PRETTY MUCH AN INFILL SURROUNDED BY EITHER EXISTING DEVELOPMENT OR CONSERVATION LAND SUCH AS OUR

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SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021 --

>> 87. >> ADOPTING COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 2020-02 ADLER CREEK BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AGAIN ROLL CALL

>> COMMISSIONER >>

>> COMMISSIONER >>

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES.

>> AND I VOTE YES. SO THAT PASSES 4-0. COMMISSIONEU

[Items 5 & 6]

BACK WITH US? >> HEY MR. CHAIRMAN I'M HERE.

>> GOOD TO HEAR YOUR VOICE. WE'RE BACK AND WE HAD FINISHED ITEM FOUR I BELIEVE. AND WE'RE READY I ASSUME TO PICK UP NUMBER 5. I THINK THAT WAS NOT FULL.

LET'S GO WITH NUMBER 5. I THINK 5 AND SIX ARE TOGETHER

>> MR. CHAIR. >> EITHER OF THOSE QUASI? WE HAVE -- THE NUMBER 6 IS QUASI JUDICIAL.

ANY EX PARTE ON THE COMMISSIONER

>> >> I HAVE NONE.

>> PAUL. >> I DID HAVE A GENTLEMEN CALL ME AND I DID NOT GET HIS NAME. WE DISCUSSED THE BOUNDARY AND SETBACKS AND BUFFER. HE WAS CONCERNED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION FROM DISTRICT 2. HE CALLED ME AND I TALKED TO HIM. HE HAD CONSERVES ABOUT THE VISIBILITY FROM THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD BESIDE IT.

>> MR. CHAIR. IF I MAY INTERJECT.

I DON'T KNOW THE PRESENTER MR. LATTE IS HERE.

HE IS HERE. I'M SORRY.

PLEASE CONTINUE. I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER WALDRON. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. ITEM 5 AND 6.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY COMMUNICATIONS ON

EITHER ITEM. >> LET'S GO WITH NUMBER 5.

MATT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONERS, MATT LAHTI, GUST STREAM DESIGN.

I AM SORRY FOR MY DELAY. A COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORS BROUGHT UP CONCERNS AND I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE APPLICANT OUTSIDE PRIOR TO PRESENTING TO YOU.

AS THE STAFF REPORT SAYS, THIS IS A COMPANION BETWEEN A SMALL COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT AND REZONING OF PUD.

THIS PROPERTY IS A PIECE OF FAMILY-OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED OFF THE COUNTY ROAD 13, SIGNIFICANT PORTION IS WETLANDS HERE TO THE SOUTHWEST. THERE'S AN UPLAND PORTION WITH AN EXISTING MOBILE HOME AND REMNANT STUFF FROM THE PREVIOUS RESIDENTIAL HOUSE OUT THERE. EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS RURAL SILVICULTURE. PROPOSING A PLAN OF BOAT AND RV STORAGE IN TWO UPLANDS POCKETS. WE ARE PROPOSING A 35 FOOT EDGE ON BOTH PROPERTY LINES HERE. THE GENTLEMEN FROM THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD TALKED TO ME DURING THE LUNCH BREAK AND MY CLIENTING

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THAT WAS ONE OF NEIGHBOR'S REQUEST.

WE HAD A SIX FOOT PLAN PROPOSED IN THE APPLICATION.

THAT WILL BE SHOWN ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN WHEN WE SUBMIT THAT FOR THE APPLICATION. I CAN PROCEED WITH THE REZONING PRESENTATION. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SMALL CHANGE LAND. THIS IS THE PUD 2021-18 FOR COUNTY ROAD 13. THIS IS THE NEW SIX MILE FISH CAMP OR OUT BACK CRAB SHACK COMING BACK HERE.

AS MENTIONED EXISTING SITE THAT'S BEEN IN THE APPLICANT'S FAMILY FOR A LOT OF YEARS. EXISTING ZONING IS OR.

PROPOSED TO REZONE TO PUD. AGAIN HERE'S THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICATION.

ANY LIGHTING, ANY BUFFERING OR COMPATIBILITY BUFFERING WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND CODE WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM. I DID HAVE ONE.

>> MATT, IT SAID YOU HAD MINIMUM SETBACK OF 20.

>> THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

BUT IT'S A 35 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE PROPOSED ALONG THE PROPERTY

BOUNDARY. >> OKAY.

IS THAT NATURAL OR CLEAR TO THE EDGE?

>> THAT WOULD BE LEFT IN THE EXISTING STATE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS 5 AND 6. FOR GIVE ME.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS 5 AND 6.

>> 2004 RIVER ZONE ROAD SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

I AM THE ONE WHO CALLED COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN. BUT IT'S AT MY OTHER WORK.

>> I'M GLAD TO HAVE A MOMENT HERE.

I LIVE IN THE ADJOINING COMMUNITY THAT WAS FEATURED.

AND WE DID HAVE A BRIEF CHAT WITH MR. LAHTI DURING THE LUNCHEON BREAK. BUT WE DO HAVE A SERIES OF CONCERNS. THEY ARE TWOFOLD.

ONE IS THE VISUAL WHEN WE DRIVE INTO THE COMMUNITY WE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD FIND OURSELVES LOOKING AT A HOST OF RV ROOF TOPS AND BOATS. THIS IS A RATHER NICE COMMUNITY IN WESTERN EDGE OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

WE ARE PROUD OF IT AND DO NOT SEE THAT AS AN ADDITION TO OUR VALUE BUT A DETRIMENT TO OUR VALUE.

THE OTHER FACET REGARDS TO LIGHTING.

WE TRIED TO GET CLARITY FROM A COUNTY STAFF ON THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENT. WE WERE VERY CONCERNED GREAT FRANKLY WE WOULD FIND THE WOODS ILLUMINATED AND AS WE EITHER SIT ON OUR PATIOS IN THE EVENING OR LOOK ACROSS THE COMMUNITY WE WOULD FIND THE SUN HAS SET AND THE FOREST IS ILLUMINATED QUITE FRANKLY THIS WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I BROUGHT SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, AT LEAST ONE IS HERE TO SPEAK.

I'M SPEAKING WITH TWO OTHER'S PERMISSION.

IT'S RATHER STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE REACHED THAT UNDERSTANDING COMMISSIONER LATHI WITH REGARDS TO BUFFER AT 35 FEET.

WE FIND THAT ACCEPTABLE. AND PARTICULAR ON THE FENCING, WE PROPOSE TO USE THE SAME FENCE USED IN HERITAGE LANDING.

AN EIGHT FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE WITH A NYLON MESH TO MAKE IT OPAQUE. DON'T WANT TO SEE THE BOATS AND RVS WHEN WE DRIVE INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

YEAH. NOTHING MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD THAN THAT AND THIRDLY ON THE LIGHTING.

WE UNDERSTOOD THE COUNTY REQUIRES A SO CALLED DARK SKY FRIENDLY LIGHTING. I DON'T KNOW THE APPLICABLE STATUTE. I'M A RETIRED GUY.

IF THE LIGHT POLES ARE TWO HIGH OR THE FIXTURES ARE NOT CORRECTLY ADAPTED, WE WOULD FIND THE SKY ILLUMINATED IN THE FOREST. I DO ASK RESPECTFUL THAT THE COMMISSION EITHER SPECIFY THE APPLICATION OR POSTPONE IT UNTIL WE GET CLARITY IN A REVISED APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD

LIKE TO MAKE >> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

RECORD. >> MY NAME IS DENNY FRENCH.

I AM AT 2049 RIVER ZONE ROAD ALSO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I ECHO THE SAME COMMENTS THAT MIKE JUST HAD.

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THERE IS A GROUP THAT TRIES TO KEEP IT AS PRISTINE AS POSSIBLE.

AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT 13 MIGHT SUFFER A LITTLE BIT AS WELL AS WHAT WE FOUND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO AIR MY CONCERN THAT IT MEETS THE SAME STANDARD THAT HAS BEEN SET FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES COMING DOWN 13. ON ANYTHING NEW THAT COMES INTO DEVELOPMENT OF 13. SO THAT MAINTAINS THE SCENIC VALUE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS 5 AND 6?

>> YES, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME DOWN AND TAKE YOUR PLACE AT ONE OF THE REMAINING PODIUMS.

>> NAME IS BILL HENNES SEE. 5461 FOURTH STREET AT SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH. Y'ALL KNOW WHERE I'M AT.

BUT, AT THE RATE Y'ALL ARE GOING GETTING THE BOAT RAMPS WHERE THEY ARE IN SHIP SHOP SHAPE AND THEY'RE SAFE AND YOU CAN USE THEM WITHOUT GETTING ASSAULTED, BOAT STORAGES ARE A DAMN GOOD IDEA. BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T GET TO THE RAMPS, WHAT GOOD IS HAVING A BOAT? MAYBE NOT IN THAT LOCATION BUT WE NEED TO START WORKING ON THE

RAMPS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYBODY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS 5 AND 6?

>> B.J. KLATY, 8 NEWCOME STREET ST. AUGUSTINE.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE COME IN HERE. THEY HAVE ONE THING ABOUT THE 35 FOOT BUFFER DURING LUNCHTIME. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING ABOUT THE LIGHTING. I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH KING STREET AND PALMER ON THE CORNER THERE.

THERE'S NO HOUSES AROUND THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE.

RVS AND BOATS. RVS AND BOATS BUT IT'S CLOSE TO COMMERCIAL. THIS 13 COUNTY ROAD 13 IS NOT COMMERCIAL. IT'S AN ENJOYABLE PLACE TO LOOK.

SO MAYBE WE CAN GET MR. LAHTI AND HIS LITTLE GROUP TO AGREE ON THE RECORD ABOUT THE LIGHTING THAT IT WILL BE DOWN AND NOT OUT SO THAT WHENEVER THEY'RE ON THEIR PATIO ENJOYING LIFE AND SEEING EVERYTHING THAT'S NATURAL, THEY WON'T SEE LIGHTS.

IF HE WORKED IT OUT WITH THIS GROUP OF GENTLEMEN DURING LUNCHTIME, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LIGHT? THAT'S NOT A HARD THING TO FIX BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S WAYS WITH LIGHTING TO MAKE IT FORCING DOWN SO IT'S NOT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT. SO THAT'S A COMPROMISE WE NEED TO HAVE ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. SEEING NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED FOR ITEMS 5 AND 6.

>> MR. LAHTI, MIGHT YOU ADDRESS THE LIGHTING ISSUE?

AS ONE COMMISSIONER -- >> YEAH, I APOLOGIZE, ALL LIGHTING WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TYPICALLY UNLESS YOU'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO THAT, IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN A PUD. THE ST. JOHNS DOES NOT ALLOW LIGHT TRESPASS. WE HAVE TO MEET 0 CANDLE AT THE PROPERTY LINE. AND I THINK THAT THE PLAN IS A LITTLE DECEIVING. I CAN'T REALLY ZOOM IN.

YOU KNOW IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THIS YELLOW LINE IS OUR PROPERTY LINE, WE HAVE A 35 FOOT BUFFER ON THE INSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THERE IS SOME VEGETATION ON THE EASTERN SIDE HERE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE POND AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY LIGHTING ISSUES WITH THE REGULAR COMPONENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE REQUIRED WITHIN THE PUD THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE LIGHTING. WE HAVE TO MEET COMPATIBILITY BUFFERING WITHIN SECTION 6 AND WHEN WE SUBMIT CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR THE PROJECT. BUT ALL LIGHTS IF THERE ARE ANY LIGHTS PROPOSED WOULD MEET 0.0 FOOT CANDLES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS SUBMITTED. WE HAVE AGREED TO THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE. SO HOW YOU WANT TO AMEND THAT

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>> COULD YOU PLEASE FOR MY BENEFIT, CORN BREAD THAT LIGHT

ISSUE A LITTLE BIT. >> SO NO LIGHT IS ALLOWED --

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE SOME ASSURANCE FROM THIS COMMISSION IF POSSIBLE THAT THEIR RIGHT TO ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOMES IS NOT OVERWHELMED BY GREAT LIGHTS.

>> PROPERTY LINE HERE ON THAT EASTERN BOUNDARY.

WHAT THAT MEANS, IF THERE IS A LIGHT POLE INSTALLED ON THIS BOUNDARY, THE LIGHT WOULD HAVE TO FACE THIS WAY AND WOULD HAVE CUT OFF FIXTURES AND SHIELDING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LIGHT POLE. IF THE LIGHT POLE WAS A DOWNWARD FACING LIGHT AND PLACED IN THE CENTER OF THE LANDSCAPE ISLAND, IT WOULD NOT ALLOW TO HORIZONTALLY PROJECT LIGHT BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE HERE. THESE AREN'T STADIUM LIGHTS YOU SEE IN A BASEBALL FIELD. THESE ARE TYPICAL TWO LIGHTS ON A POLE POTENTIALLY AND ALL DOWNWARD FACING.

SO, NO LIGHT IS ALLOWED TO PROJECT BEYOND THE EASTERN LINE

AS WE DO OUR PLANS. >> LET ME ASK STAFF AND LEGAL.

THE WAY THAT MATT HAS DESCRIBED THIS, IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE PERMIT CONDITIONS OR THE ACTION WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE SO WE HAVE ADDRESSED IT ADEQUATELY? WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO, ASSUMING WE APPROVE THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

>> MR. CHAIR. I BELIEVE MS. BISHOP IS PREPARED TO RESPOND TO THAT. NO , I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.

TERESA, DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT?

>> YES, SIR. IF YOU'RE ASKING HOW LIGHTING GETS REVIEWED WHEN THEY COME THROUGH PROJECT REVIEW WITH THE

COUNTY. >> LET ME BE CLEAR JUST SO YOU

KNOW. >> YES, SIR.

WHAT I WANT, AS ONE COMMISSIONER, ONE VOTE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE APPROVED IT ADDRESSES THE LIGHTING ISSUE RAISED BY THESE GENTLEMEN THE HOMEOWNERS NEARBY TO MAKE SURE TO THE EXTENT WE CAN WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES AND POLICY LEGALLY MAKE SURE THAT THAT LIGHT IS DIRECTED AND DIMMED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T LIGHT UP THE FOREST AS THEY DESCRIBE IT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES, SIR. NOW I'M NOT FAMILIAR WHERE EXACTLY THEIR FOREST IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND HOW THIS LIGHTING MAY GO AROUND THIS PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO SAY HOW IT'S GOING TO LIGHT UP THE FOREST TO USE THAT TERM. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT OUR CODE SAYS AND HOW WE REVIEW IT WHEN IT COMES IN FOR US TO LOOK AT.

THIS IS ARTICLE 5 FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, OUT DOOR LIGHTING SHALL BE PROVIDED IN DEVELOPMENTS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE STREETS. OUTDOOR LIGHTING SHALL BE LOCATED TO AS TO ILLUMINATE THE PROPERTY FOR SAFE PASSAGE.

THE BULB OR FILAMENT SHALL NOT BE DIRECTLY VISIBLE ON THE PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF THE LOT LINE ON WHICH IT'S LOCATED AND ARTICLE 6 WE ALSO HAVE LIGHTING STANDING AND IN ARTICLE 6 TALKS AND CUT OFF LIGHT FIXTURES AND - STUFF SO THAT LIGHT TRESPASS DOES NOT HAPPEN TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

WE REVIEW IT WHEN IT COMES INTO THE COUNTY AND REQUIRE PHOTO MAKE SURE THE FOOT CANDLES O - AROUND THE PROPERTY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT OUR CODE SAYS AND THEN WE ALSO REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVE CERTAIN FIXTURES WE GET THOSE FIXTURES REVIEWED AS WELL SO THERE'S CUT OFF LIGHTING REQUIRED FOR ANY TYPE OF SHIELDING OR SHADING THAT'S REQUIRED OF THE LIGHTS. WE ALSO LOOK AT THAT.

>> SO ASSUMING WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM TODAY, WHEN THE APPLICANT COMES BACK FOR CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL, THOSE ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED THAT YOU JUST READ IN THE

RECORD? >> YES, SIR THEY ARE ADDRESSED

AT THAT >> ALL RIGHT.

MATT. >> MAY I ALSO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ZOOM IN ON THIS. NOTE 8 ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO RECORD WITH THE PUD, ALL PROPOSED OUT DOOR LIGHTING SHALL BE DIRECTIONAL AND SHALL NOT SHINE ON TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THERE IS WORDING THAT WILL BE

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DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> MR. WALDRON.

>> MATT, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I GOT IS YOUR PERMITTED USES.

OKAY. NUMBER TWO.

I MEAN, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUTSIDE SOURCE FACILITY FOR MEAT AND A GAS STATION OR TIRE SERVICE.

I FEEL LIKE WE USED THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPONENT OF THE ACTUAL LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ZONING BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT IS A PUD SO ANY CHANGE OF USE WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD. THAT'S ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

>> IF THEY CHANGE TO A GAS STATION, WOULD IT HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE US? THE WAY THE PUD IS WRITTEN?

>> LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT THAT SECTION WITH THE EXISTING USES.

>> NUMBER TWO. >> WHILE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING, WOULD WE CONSIDER DOING A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WOULD LIMIT THE

USE? >> ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO REMOVE A USE THAT YOU WOULD FIND OBJECTIONABLE.

ASSUMING THE -- >> I WILL ASK THEM.

FOR ME, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. >> THERE'S NO INTENT TO PUT A GAS STATION HERE. WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT.

>> THE GAS STATION AND TIRE SERVICE.

>> WOULD THAT BE ALLOWED? NOTE THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ELIMINATE GAS STATION AND TIRE CENTER.

OKAY. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER

BOARD? >> YES.

>> MR. MR. LAHTI. THIS MAY GO BACK TO THE LIGHTING. WHAT IS THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE? HOW MANY FEET AWAY IS THE CLOSEST? I'M LOOKING AT WATER LILLY WAY. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MAYBE THE CLOSEST HOUSE. I'M SEEING THIS GENTLEMEN

NODDING. >> HOW FAR AWAY IS THAT?

>> ASSUMING YOU'VE GOT AN 80 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY HERE, I THINK YOU'RE SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET FROM THE NEAREST HOUSE TO THE PROPERTY IN CONSIDERING OUR DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T GO THAT FAR SOUTH. I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE OVER

LAY ON THE PROPOSED AREA. >> A ROUGH ESTIMATE WOULD BE THE

SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD? >> SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET.

>> YES, SIR. >> AND A GOOD PORTION OF THAT IS

THE FOREST. >> OKAY.

THEY WERE QUESTIONS RAISED IN THE PZA MEETING MAYBE DURING ANOTHER MEETING ABOUT WOULD THERE BE A WASH STATION FOR THE RVS OR BOATS OR ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS FOR THE

BOATS. >> IT'S NOT A SERVICE FACILITY.

OIL CHANGES THAT THAT TYPE OF STUFF SHOULDN'T BE OCCURRING OUT

HERE. >> HOW ABOUT JUST WASHING THE

BOAT? >> THERE'S NO POTABLE -- ANY CHEMICALS THAT MIGHT BE USED FOR WASHING.

>> THAT HASN'T BEEN PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE FEW WE DESIGNED DON'T EVEN HAVE WATER THERE.

I TRULY THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE IN A HABITUAL MANNER TAKE THEIR BOAT TO THE HOUSE.

UNLOAD, WASH IT AND TAKE IT BACK TO THE STORAGE FACILITY.

THERE'S NO POTABLE CONNECTIONS. NO UTILITIES PROPOSED FROM

CENTRAL WATER OR SEWER. >> THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

THAT CONCERN WAS BROUGHT >> SURE.

ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY.

THAT COMPLETES THE QUESTIONS. I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION OF LEGAL. BEFORE I VOTE, OR MAKE A MOTION ON 5, 5 IS THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.

SUCH AS THE PUD. WHERE DO WE INSERT THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE GAS STATION OR TIRE CENTER?

IS THAT IN FIVE OR SIX? >> THAT WOULD BE IN SIX.

>> I'M SORRY. >> THAT WOULD BE IN ITEM 6.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I PROCEEDED.

OKAY. SO I WILL MOVE TO ENACT

ORDINANCE 2021. >> 88.

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>> SECOND. >> SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ROLL CALL VOTE.

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. JO

>> I VOTE YES. >>

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES. THAT'S APPROVED 4-0.

I WILL MOVE ITEM 6. ON ITEM 6, I WILL MOVE TO ENACT

ORDINANCE 2021 >> 89.

APPROVING PUD 2021-01, 8,000 COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT WITH AN AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ELIMINATE OR NOT ALLOW GAS STATIONS OR TIRE

CENTERS. >> CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE MY >>

>> COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. >> YES.

YES FOR ME. COMMISSIONER WALDRON.

>> YES, >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S APPROVED 4-0.

AND AS A FOOTNOTE, AN ADDENDUM. WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES IN, WILL YOU MAKE A SPECIAL ASTERISK TO MAKE SURE WE CHECK THE COUNTY CODE ON LIGHTING AND MAYBE SURE THAT'S REVIEWED AND INCLUDED BASED ON TODAY'S DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE WE CHECK THAT --

>> YES, SIR. WE HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT IN OUR SYSTEM. DID YOUR MOTION INCLUDE THE

FENCING? >> YES.

I THOUGHT IT DID. I THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY INCLUDED. DO WE NEED TO AMEND THE MOTION?

>> YES. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED PROVIDES FOR 6 FOOT FENCING IN THOSE AREAS.

I THINK THE APPLICANT ON THE FLOOR IS REQUESTING EIGHT FEET IN RESPONSE TO SOME NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.

>> IF I MAY, RATHER THAN GO BACK AND TRY TO UNCOOK THAT OMELET.

LET ME MAKE ANOTHER MOTION ON THIS ITEM ON THE PUD ITEM ON 6, TO INCLUDE AN EIGHT-FOOT FENCE WITH THE APPROPRIATE CLOTH THAT

[Items 7 & 8]

THAT'S MY MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. COMMISSIONER

>> YES. I VOTE

>> YES. COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES YES, SIR. SO I THINK THAT WRAPS UP THIS ITEM. EVERYBODY --

>> WELL, YOU JUST VOTED. OKAY.

>> YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ITEM 7.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. THANKS GUYS FOR SITTING WITH US

FOR EIGHT HOURS. >> RIGHT AND SEVEN AND EIGHT TOGETHER. SO.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IT'S QUASI JUDICIAL. WE WILL HEAR THIS MORNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON LINDSEY HAGGA. WE WILL HAVE A QUASI EX PA

>> NOTHING. >> I HAD NO.

>> MR. BLOCKER. >> I HAVE NONE.

NONE ON SEVEN AND 8. SORRY ABOUT THAT LINDSEY.

YES FOR THE RECORD, LINDSEY HAGGA, WITH ENGLAND THIMS AND MILLER. WE ARE CONSIDERING A SMALL SCALE LAND AMENDMENT FOR JUST UNDER 20 ACRES LOCATED IN THE TIP PART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY. THAT RIGHT PART ADJACENT TO DUVAL. IT'S REALLY WHERE YOU ACCESS THROUGH. YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY ON THIS THROUGH YOUR SITE VISITS TO THE PROPERTY AS ACCESS ON SAN PABLO ROAD. OUR MAP GIVES US THE LANDMARKS, THE MAYO CLINIC TO THE NORTH. PABLO CREEK RESERVE AND AS YOU GO EAST TO THE BEACH. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MARINA AND REALLY THIS SITE IDENTIFIED THERE IN RED GIVES YOU THAT LOCATION FOR THE PROXIMITY TO THE REGIONAL ROADWAY NETWORK.

WE ARE CLOSE TO THE TOWN CENTER AND SOUTH SIDE OF JACKSONVILLE.

TO MOVE THROUGH OUR EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS RURAL SILVICULTURE. IT'S JUST ABOUT 19 ACRES AND OUR REQUEST IS MIXED USE. OUR PROPERTY IS WEST FACING AND NORTH FACING AS WE LOOK TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

ALL OF OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REGARDING WATER AND WASTEWATER IS THROUGH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE TO THE NORTH AND

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IT'S A PRIVATE CLASSIC CAR MUSEUM ON THE SOUTH.

IT'S DEVELOPED IN THE RURAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT MAKES UP THE INITIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THERE TO THE NORTH.

SO AGAIN ON ZONING, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, WE'RE REZONING TO PLANTED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THAT COLOR DOESN'T TELL US MUCH.

THAT'S THE CLASSIC BLUE COLOR. THESE ARE THE RANGES OF THE USES. RANGE FROM INSURANCE HEADQUARTERS JUST IN THAT UPPER CO PART THAT YOU SEE IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. THE MULTIFAMILY MARINA.

A MIXTURE OF HIGH RISE CONDOMINIUM TO THE NORTH.

THE HOTEL WITH THE FAIRFIELD. THE RESIDENCE INN AND MASTER PLAN RESIDENTIAL AND THE GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY.

THE PROPERTY IS ACCESSED BY SAN PABLO ROAD SOUTH.

60 FEET OF LOCAL ROAD SANDERS AND MARKS OUR WESTERN BORDER FOR THE PUD. SO OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED WITHIN OUR PUD SHOWS THE EXISTING FACILITY.

AGAIN THAT'S THE EXISTING BRUNOS CAR MUSEUM AND HAS FACILITY PARKING ON SITE AND THE STORMWATER POND WHICH WILL ALSO SERVE FOR OUR EXISTING PORTION OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE FOR UP TO ADDITIONAL 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES WITHIN THE AREA. OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP FOR PUD SHOWS THAT WE'RE WESTWARD FACING AND NORTH.

ALL OF OUR VEHICULAR USAGE IS FACING NORTH.

THE COMMUNITIES THAT FACE INTO THE INTERCOASTAL THERE TO THE EAST OF US ARE ACCESS OFF DIXIE LANDING ROAD.

THAT'S 20 FEET. AN EASEMENT THE PROPERTY OWNER PROVIDED TO THE LANDOWNERS THAT FRONT ON TO THE INTERCOASTAL WATER WAY AND A COAL MIX ROAD. IF YOU WENT ON YOUR SITE VISIT, IT'S BUFFERED FROM THE SITE ABOUT 20 FEET WE HAVE EXISTING BUFFER. YOU CAN SEE FOR THE EXISTING FACILITY AND WE WILL MAINTAIN THAT 10 FOOT BUFFER HERE IN THIS AREA AND 10 TO THE SOUTH. OVERALL, OVERALL OUR PUD WILL HAVE 25% OPEN SPACE. THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WE COMPLETED, WE DO NOT HAVE WETLANDS OR SIGNIFICANT HABITAT ON SITE. WE ARE LOOKING AT UPLAND SITE FOR THE PORTION DEVELOPED AND THE REMAINDER.

SO IN SUMMARY, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD 25,000 SQUARE FEET TO THE EXISTING 30,000 SQUARE FEET. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE TO SUPPORT THE USE. WE CONTRIBUTE TO COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE TAX IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND DO ACCESS OFF THE JACKSONVILLE AND YOUR PLANNING RECOMMENDS A VOTE 5-2 FINDING IT'S CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ADJACENT PATTERNS OF DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAD A LITTLE DISCUSSION AT PZA ABOUT USES AND FIRE SERVICES SO IT'S WELCOME TO REMIND US THAT WE HAVE A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT BETWEEN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE FOR FIRE SERVICES AND RIGHT AT THE MAYO CLINIC IS FIRE STATION 59 WITHIN THE 5 MILE ROAD RADIUS.

WE'RE OUT TO PONTE VEDRA AND HAVE ADJACENT TWO MILES AWAY FROM THE SITE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED AT PZA AND IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE PUD.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON 7 AND 8 TOGETHER. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON 7 AND 8. ANYBODY WISHING TO MAKE COMMENTS ON 7 AND 8 PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

BEN SLAVEN. COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A LIST OF OWNERS OF THE PROJECT. AS KATHY BROWN PUT IT BEST.

THE PUD, THIS IS A SNEAKY WAY OF GETTING AROUND ZONING.

I AM CORRECT UNDERSTANDING MORE THAN HALF OF THE LAND USE IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY IS GIVEN TO PUD. WHEN DO WE HAVE OVER SIGHT OF THE PERFORMANCE OF PUDS? IT'S COME OUT THIS MORNING AND THIS AFTERNOON THAT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KEEP THEIR PROMISES.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A SYSTEMATIC EVALUATION OF ANY PUD IN ST.

JOHNS COUNTY. COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A PDF

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WORSE THAN TALLAHASSEE. LAWYER COMES IN HERE, DEVELOPER,

THEY'RE YOUR CONTRIBUTORS. >> MR. SLAVEN.

I HAVE TO ASK YOU DIRECT THE COMMENTS TO ITEMS 7 AND 8.

>> YOU ALWAYS INTERRUPT. >> SON YOU NEED TO SHOW RESPECT

FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY. >> THE SAME RULES APPLY TO YOU

TO EVERYBODY. >> PLEASE STOP THE CLOCK --

>> FILIBUSTER. >>

>> FOLLOW THE RULES OF DECORUM. LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> DON'T TELL ME ABOUT DECORUM. SON YOU'RE RUDE.

YOU'RE VERY RUDE. AND YOU'RE A NO-NOTHING.

>> ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEMS 7 AND 8 APPROACH THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NONE, WE ARE NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ANY COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER BLOCKER, THIS IS DISTRICT FOUR.

DO YOU WISH TO MOVE OR PREFER I MOVE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS FRONT OF YOU.

>> I WILL TRY TO MOVE THIS. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY.

LET ME SEE HERE. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021.

>> 90. >> I GUESS CPA SS21-111.

SAN PABLO ROAD BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER

>> >> I

>> PAUL. >> YES.

>> COME COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT THAT'S APPROVED 4-0 AND TAKE UP ITEM 8.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> YES, SIR, GIVE ME ONE SECOND HERE. MR. CHAIRMAN MOTION TO ENACT

ORDINANCE 2021- >> 91, PUD 21-13 SAB PABLO ROAD

[12. Road Impact Fee Credit Transfer - Cordova Palms PUD (Cordova Palms Investment, LLC).]

BASED ON NINE FINDING OF >>

>> YES. >> I VOTE

>> >>

>> BLOCKER. >> YES.

THAT'S APPROVED 4-0. NUMBER 9.

9, 10 AND 11. THAT PUTS US TO 12.

AM I ON SCHEDULE? WE'RE ALREADY ON 12? GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM DR REPASS.

I AM HERE FOR THE LAND OVER CORDOVA PALMS INVESTMENT LLC.

THEY ARE THE OWNER OF THE ROD IMPACT FEE CREDITS APPLICABLE TO THE CORDOVA PALMS PUD. AND WE'RE HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR THE TRANSFER OF A PORTION OF THESE ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS, $1,064,683.84 TO THE NORTH CREEK PUD LOCATED ADJACENT FROM CORDOVA PONDS ON U.S. ONE.

JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF BACKGROUND HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHERE WE ARE. THE MATTER, THIS MATTER PERTAINS TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTH SEGMENT OF STATE ROAD 313 SHOWN IN THIS EXHIBIT. THE BLACK LINES HERE.

THIS IS THE PROJECT BEING CONSTRUCTED AS WE SPEAK.

IT ALSO PERTAINS TO A NECESSARY RAILROAD CROSSING APPROACHING U.S. 1 AND THEN THE INTERSECTIO. 1 TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION STATE ROAD 313. AS YOU KNOW, ONCE COMPLETED.

STATE ROAD 313 PROVIDES BYPASS AROUND THE WEST SIDE OF ST.

AUGUSTINE. IT'S BEEN DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY TO BE THE COUNTY'S NUMBER ONE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT

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ONE WAS TO DO A FLY WAY OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON TO U.S. 1 IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. THAT COST WAS APPROACHING $50 MILLION AND NOT FEASIBLE. SO THE NEXT ONLY OTHER AVAILABLE OPTION WAS TO DO AT GRADE RAILROAD CROSSING AND INTERSECT WITH U.S. 1. AND FURTHERANCE OF THAT OBJECTIVE, THE LANDOWNER THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE COUNTY AND FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT IN 2018 TO ALL WORK TOGETHER, GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO MAKE THIS RAILROAD CROSSING AND CORRECTION TO U.S. ONE HAPPEN. THE COUNTY AND THE LANDOWNER ENTERED INTO THE SUBJECT CONCURRENCY AND IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT IN APPROXIMATELY 2013 WHICH YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

THAT AGREEMENT PROVIDED FOR IMPACT FEE CREDITS TO THE LANDOWNER IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,531,450.

THOSE CREDITS WERE BROKEN DOWN IN THREE CATEGORIES AS FOLLOWS.

THERE WAS 31 ACRES APPROXIMATELY DONATED FOR THE NORTHERN SEGMENT OF STATE ROAD 313. 2000 LINEAR FEET FROM U.S. ONE MOVING WESTWARD. PROVIDED FOR THAT DONATION.

ANOTHER APPROXIMATE MILLION DOLLARS OF THOSE CREDITS WERE ABOUT 150 ACRE LAND DONATION TO THE RIVER DISTRICT AND STATE OF FLORIDA ALLOWED THOSE TWO ENTITIES TO PROVIDE AN EASEMENT RUNNING FROM THIS NORTH SEGMENT ALL THE WAY TO WOODLAWN ROAD WHICH WAS PROVIDED THE DOT WITH AN EASEMENT FOR THE 313 ACCESS.

AND THEN THE LAST COMPONENT OF THOSE CREDITS WAS PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE FOR THIS NORTHERN SEGMENT ON THE MAP HERE ALONG WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RAILROAD CROSSING.

AND THAT ESTIMATE AT THE TIME BASED ON THE ENGINEERS WAS $2,435,050. ONE THE LANDOWNER BEGAN PERMITTING AND DESIGN OF STRAIGHT ROAD 313 AND THE CROSSING, THEY WERE MAJOR SIGNIFICANT DESIGN CHANGES THAT WERE ENCOUNTERED. THE MOST, THE MAIN ONE WAS THAT THE DOT DID NOT WANT TO COME BACK YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AFTER THE ENTIRE 313 WAS CONSTRUCTED. THEY WANTED TO PLAN THE ROAD TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT WOULD BE THERE ONCE THE ENTIRE 313 WAS CONSTRUCTED. THAT MEANT THAT THE RAILROAD CROSSING, THE ANGLE IN WHICH THE RAILROAD CROSSING MET THE REMAINDER OF THE 313, THE ANGLE HAD TO BE DECREASED SUBSTANTIALLY. SO, TO DECREASE THAT ANGLE, THE DOT ALSO REQUIRED FOR WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THERE, REQUIRED 1700 FEET OF U.S. 1 TO BE COMPLETELY RECONSTRUCTED AND THEN 2100 FEET NORTH AND SOUTH OF THAT SEGMENT TO BE COMPLETELY MILLED AND RESURFACED. AND SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED MAJOR CONSTRUCTION CHANGES AND DESIGN CHANGES AND FURTHERANCE OF THAT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THE COUNTY AND THE LANDOWNER ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND GOING OUT TO DO THAT WE GOT WITH THE DOT, WE GOT THEM COMMITTED TO FUND A PORTION OF THE PROJECT OR AT LEAST WHAT THEY WOULD ESTIMATE AT THAT TIME. IT WAS A VERY TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT INTO THE, INTO THAT CURRENT LEGISLATIVE BUDGET. THE DOT ALLOCATED $3.7 MILLION TO THE PROJECT AND WE COULD ONLY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COUNT I ADMINISTERING THE PROJECT IF THE LANDOWNER COMMITTED TO FUND ANY OVERAGES AT THE TIME BECAUSE THE COUNTY COULDN'T STEP INTO A CONTRACT AND AGREE A PREDETERMINED AMOUNT.

THE LANDOWNER AGREED TO FUND THE OVERAGES AND THE COUNTY AGREED TO GIVE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR ADDITIONAL OVERAGES.

SO, IN FURTHERANCE OF THAT AND EARLIER THIS YEAR IN FEBRUARY OF '21, THE LANDOWNER AND THE COUNTY ENTERED INTO AN AMENDMENT TO THE IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT WHICH ACCOUNTED FOR ALL THESE OVERAGES AND AGAIN THESE OVERAGES ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THESE DESIGN CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE DONE TO

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IT'S ROUGHLY $3.5 MILLION THE RAILROAD HAD TO ADVANCE TOWARD THE PROJECT. THAT AMENDMENT WAS PASSED IN FEBRUARY OF '21. THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THE LANDOWNER CAN COME BEFORE THE COUNTY WITH COUNTY APPROVAL AND TRANSFER SOME OF THE THESE CREDITS TO ANOTHER PROJECT WHICH WE ARE ASKING TO BEING THE COUNTY'S HIGHEST TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AN INTERSECTION OF U.S.

1, IMPROVEMENTS TO U.S. ONE. I THINK IT BENEFITS AND I THINK IF ASKED THE QUESTION ENGINEERS WOULD AGREE, IT BENEFITS ALL IMPACT FEE DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY WITHOUT QUESTION.

U.S. ONE IS THE ENTRANCE INTO SAINT AUGUSTINE.

HOWEVER IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE TWO 10THS OF A MILE SOUTH OF U.S. 13 THAT IS READY AND ABLE TO USE THESE CREDITS

WE HAVE ENTERED -- >> CAN YOU POSSIBLY SHOW ON THE AERIAL OR DECEMBER WHERE THE PROPOSED TRANSFER PROPERTY IS?

>> THE PROPOSED TRANSFER IS IF YOU SEE SOUTH OF THERE, BENNINGER DRIVE. AND THEN RIGHT ABOVE THAT, YOU SEE THE 2100 FEET MILL AND INTERSECTION.

THAT IS THE INTERSECTION LOOKING LEFT.

THERE IS, THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE, THAT IS THE NORTH CREEK PUD. RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT IS TWO-10THS OF A MILE FROM 313.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SEEKING TO TRANSFER.

AGAIN I THINK THIS MAJOR PROJECT HERE IMPACTS BENEFITS ALL IMPACT FEE DISTRICTS. IN THIS CASE, IT JUST SO HAPPENS, THEY'RE READY FOR THE CREDITS.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LANDOWNER WHO GOT HIT WITH THE CHANGES FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE EAST COAST RAILROAD TO RECOOP SOME OF THIS, NOT RECOUPING ALL BUT SOME OF THE COST THAT HAS HAD TO ADVANCE FOR THIS PROJECT. AND SO WE ASK YOU ALL FOR THE COUNTY, TO PLEASE ALLOW US TO TRANSFER THIS PORTION OF THESE CREDITS SO WE CAN RECOUP SOME OF THIS.

>> WHEN WE MET LAST WEEK, WASN'T THERE AN ISSUE OF TIMELINESS?

>> THERE IS AN ISSUE OF TIME BECAUSE THE NORTH CREEK PROJECT WHICH IS CALLED VERANNO JUST SOUTH THERE THEY NEED THE CREDITS NOW. I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE STARTING TO APPLY FOR PERMITS SO THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO RECOUP SOME OF THIS. IF WE DON'T GET THIS NOW, YOU KNOW WE WILL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE, BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE ARE ABLE TO TRANSFER THEM NOW.

>> JUST WANTED TO REVISIT THAT ISSUE QUICKLY BECAUSE THIS FALL EARLIER THIS YEAR, THIS FALL WE HAD SEVERAL IMPACT FEE CREDIT ISSUES TO CONSIDER BUT THERE'S HAVE BEEN SEVERAL INQUIRIES LEAD BY PAUL WALDRON WHO HAS RAISED POINTS ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE CREDITS AND SORT OF EXACTLY HOW DOES THE COUNTY PLAYER IN THIS AND WHAT ARE WE REALLY RECEIVING? MY POINT IS, WE POSTPONED SEVERAL OTHERS TO HAVE A WORKSHOP AND A FULL DISCUSSION AND I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW I WANT IN RESPONSE TO THE APPLICANT'S TIMELINESS, AND THE WHAT I CONSIDER FAIRNESS ISSUE, I MADE THE DECISION TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. WE CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.

I WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY IT'S HERE NOW.

WITH THAT SAID, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I SEE COMMISSIONER WALDRON HAS A QUESTION?

>> THIS IS UNIQUE AND GETTING WITH LEGAL, THEY SAY WE REQUEST LOOK AT EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY. AT THIS TIME, I REALLY, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO HAVE A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT IT BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH THE OTHER ONES, I'M OKAY WITH WHAT WE GOT GOING ON.

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IMPLICATIONS ARE. >> I'M TOTALLY WITH YOU.

THAT'S WHY WE AGREED EARLIER TO POSTPONE THE WHOLE DISCUSSION.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S A MATTER OF FAIRNESS HERE.

>> WELL THIS ON 313 IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME AS FAR AS, JUST LIKE EARLIER, I DIDN'T HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH ADLER CREEK BECAUSE THE ROADWAYS WERE GETTING DONE.

2209 ADLER ROAD WILL BE A CUT THROUGH TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC.

EVEN THOUGH 313 MAYBE 10, 15 YEARS OFF.

YES, SIR. AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT

DISCUSSION. >> WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION

BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH >> IT'S YOUR BALL

>> ANY

>> NO, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS? >> FOR THE MOMENT GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. COMMISSIONER.

>> AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 12.

THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12.

AGENDA TODAY. LACKS THE BACKUP ACCESSIBLE ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN FIXED MR. CHAIRMAN.

ALSO CORDOVA PALMS INVESTMENT LLC.

COULD WE PLEASE HAVE A LIST OF EVERY SINGLE BENEFICIAL OWNER AND INVESTOR IN THIS PROJECT? WE HAVE A TOTAL LACK OF TRANSPARENCY HERE. WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. CORDOVA PALMS LLC.

WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL INVESTORS? WHO ARE THE BENEFICIAL OWNERS? JUDGE NIAMKE LIT SAYS THE POST IMPORTANT QUESTION SO ASK IS KWI BONO.

WE KNOW FROM PUBLIC RECORDS THAT CORDOVA PALMS HAS AN OFFICE AND THERE ARE 98 CORPORATIONS IN THAT LITTLE OLD 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE. COME ON.

WE NEED TRANSPARENCY. THANK YOU.

>> ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12? THIS IS THE TIME.

>> B.J. KLATY, CORDOVA PALMS PUD SHOULD NOT GIVE OVER $1 MILLION ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS TO NORTH CREEK PUD.

NORTH CREEK SHOULD OBTAIN THEIR OWN ROAD FEE IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE A BUCK ON DEVELOPMENT.

NUMBER ONE, WHY IS CORDOVA PALMS, 750 HOUSES GIVING IMPACT TO THE NORTH WEEK PUD, 150 HOUSES? CORDOVA PALMS SOLD PROPERTY ON DECEMBER 21, 2020, FOR $10.4 MILLION TO VPDF CORDOVA LLC.

THIS LLC BUSINESS LICENSE WAS REVOKED ON SEPTEMBER 24, 2021.

NUMBER TWO, HOW MANY ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS DOES NORTH CREEK PUD HAVE? I LISTEN TO THIS GENTLEMEN I GUESS THEY HAVE ZERO AM THEIR PROPERTY.

THIS DOESN'T SHOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

THEIR PROPERTY IS EAST OF U.S. 1 NORTH OR STATE ROAD 313 WILL CUT THROUGH 12 MILE SWAMP AND EXIT AT 1 NORTH.

THREE, WHY DOES MR. KILLINGER WHO IS AT 3277 ALMIRA STREET IN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAINT AUGUSTINE BUSINESS WANT TO GIVE ROAD IMPACT FEE CREDITS TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER? WHAT ARE THEY GETTING OUT OF IT? CHANGING FLORIDA STATUTES TO DEVELOPERS AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO FLORIDA RESIDENTS.

THE CONGESTION IS DESTROYING THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING. WHY CAN'T WE GET THIS $1 MILLION GIVEN TO STOKES LANDING AND PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT UP THERE? WHY DOESN'T THIS CORDOVA WANT TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE OUT? I GUESS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING FROM THEM.

IT WAS VERY GOOD WE HAD THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING ON STOKES LANDING AND THIS GENTLEMEN GOT PUT ON THE AGENDA BY MR. DEAN. I APPRECIATE MR. WALDRON LAST MEETING BRINGING UP THIS IMPACT FEE THING.

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I'M A LITTLE UPSET BUT I'M GOING TO CALM DOWN.

I HAVE 20 SECONDS TO CALM DOWN. LET'S JUST ALL TAKE A DEEP BREATH. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 12? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

>> UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER BOARD QUESTIONS, DID YOU HAVE --

>> YES, SIR, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A THOUGHT HERE.

I THINK WE'RE ALL SORT OF REFERENCING THE CONTROVERSIAL BILL THAT PASSED THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THIS BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO SEND A LETTER SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THAT BILL. WE WERE CERTAINLY NOT A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION MADE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN THE PAST PRIOR TO THAT BILL PASSING, YOU WERE ALLOWED TO TRANSFER

WITHIN THE ZONES. >> RIGHT, WHERE THE COUNTY IMPACT FEE CREDIT, THEY ARE TYPICALLY DONE BY AGREEMENT AND THE AGREEMENT HAS CERTAIN LIMITATIONS AND OUR COUNTY ORDINANCE HAS LIMITATIONS. ONE IS THEY WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD. AND THAT IS WHY M APPLICATION IS IN HERE TODAY. THERE ARE ELSE WISE RIGHT, I BELIEVE EVEN IN THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE, THERE IS A LIMITATION TO BE WITHIN THE, THAT ZONING DISTRICT IF YOU KNOW.

THE FOUR ZONE DISTRICTS. >> I LOOKED AT THAT CLOSELY COMMISSIONER. AND I AM PRETTY SURE I'M RIGHT UNLESS MIKE ROBERSON TELLS ME I'M WRONG.

MIKE, ARE YOU LISTENING? IT'S INTERESTING ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO HAVE THE WORKSHOP THAT COMMISSIONER WALDRON RECOMMENDED, IT'S NOT WITHIN THE SAME ZONE.

THERE ARE FOUR ZONES AND FOUR BASIC RECTANGLES.

THEY MEET IN THE CENTER. ALL FOUR ZONES TOUCH EACH OTHER.

SO THE LANGUAGE SAYS IT'S WITHIN THE ZONE OR ADJACENT TO.

IT'S ACTUALLY COUNTY WIDE. >> IT WAS COUNTY WIDE PRIOR

THE BILL PASSING? >> YEAH.

>> AFTER THE BILL PASSING. >> EVEN BEFORE THE BILL PASSED, THAT ISSUE WAS SEPARATE. THAT WAS EITHER IN THE ZONE OR,

AM I MISS STATING THAT? >> I DON'T THINK YOU ARE.

IF IT DOES GO TO ANOTHER ZONE, THERE HAS TO BE A DEMONSTRATED BENEFIT SHOWING TO THE PROPERTY OR DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S GOING TO. THERE HAS TO BE ADDITIONAL

SPECIALS SHOWING THAT INSTANCE. >> THAT ADDED US TO I GUESS WHY WE APPROVE THIS. YOU CAN LITERALLY BE IN PONTE VEDRA IN THAT ZONE BUT THAT ZONE HAPPENS TO BE TOUCHING THE SOUTHWEST ZONE AND YOU COULD LITERALLY HAVE A CONVEYANCE OR TRANSFER FOR CONSIDERATION TO THE VERY SOUTHWEST END OF COUNTY

BECAUSE THE ZONES TOUCH. >> YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY MY POINT. BECAUSE THIS IS SO CLOSE, THE TRANSFER POINT IS SO CLOSE, IT DOES BENEFIT THAT --

>> TWO 10THS OF A MILE. WE COULD UNDER OUR ORDINANCE ALLOW ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE TOUCHING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY.

HERE IT'S JUST TWO-TENTHS OF A MILE.

THIS SEEMS TO NOT BE ONE OF THE FEARS WE HAD.

SO AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING REALLY IN FAVOR FOR THOSE REASONS.

MR. CHAIR. MAY I PUT A COUPLE NOTES ON THE

RECORD AS WELL? >> FIRST OF ALL, OUR OFFICE DID A RESEARCH WHETHER DURING A LAND USE CHANGE, WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAD MADE A REPRESENTATION TO THE BOARD THAT THE BOARD WOULD GET ALL THESE IMPACT FEES YOU KNOW IN AND THERE THERE WOULD BE EXCESS CREDITS THAT WOULD NOT BE USED.

SO THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY.

WE DIDN'T FIND ANY LANGUAGE LIKE THAT.

WE DIDN'T FIND THERE HAD BEEN SOME REPRESENTATION LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK IN THE PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCE, THAT'S IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THEY TOLD THE COUNTY BOARD ONE THING 10 YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE TELLING YOU SOMETHING DIFFERENT NOW. WE DIDN'T FIND THAT TO BE THE INSTANCE FROM OUR REVIEW. WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. THE PROXIMITY IS IMPORTANT.

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SO IN MY VIEW, BACK TO COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST'S, I GUESS QUESTION, WHERE THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS ELIGIBILITY AND OF COURSE NOW THERE IS THE STATE STATUTE, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, BE IT DOES REQUIRE COUNTY APPROVAL, BOARD APPROVAL AND TO ME, THAT SHOULD BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AND SHOULD NOT BE THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS NO. IF THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS NO, THEN THAT BOARD APPROVAL IS SORT OF AN A LOOSE TERM.

SO THOSE ARE MY NOTES. THANK YOU.

>> I CONCUR WITH ALL YOUR POINTS.

ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST? I'M PREPARED TO MOVE THIS UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THIS IS ITEM 12.

MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021. >> 520.

APPROVING 1 MIL$1,064,683.84. FINDING THE REQUEST CONSISTENT

WITH FLORIDA STATUTES. >> AND COUNTY REGULATIONS I

WOULD ADD >> AND COUNTY.

>> SECOND. >> YEAH.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON

ITEM >>

>> YES. >> I VOTE YES.

COMMISSIONER >>

COMMISSIONER >> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT UNANIMOUS 4-0. WE NOW GO TO APPOINTMENTS TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. NUMBER 13.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE ONE --

>> WAIT A MINUTE. >> CHRIS AND JEREMIAH AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER DEAN AS LOOKED AT IT.

WE CAN'T TALK OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING.

ON SECTION 10 E, IS WHAT REFERENCE THE PUD.

THAT'S STANDARD LANGUAGE IN ALL OF OUR PUDS.

YOU KNOW ABOUT TRANSFERABILITY. ALSO THAT LANGUAGE ALSO SAYS

[13. Consider appointments to the Recreation Advisory Board.]

>> I WANT TO THANK THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THEIR HARD WORK. LISTEN TO ME RANT.

>> THAT'S HIS JOB. >> YOUR PERCEPTIVE POINTS.

>> THAT'S HIS JOB. >> MELISSA ITEM 13.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMISSIONERS, MELISSA LUNDQUIST. TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE RECREATION BOARD. TWO ARE EXPIRED TERMS AND ONE IS DUE TO THE PASSING OF ONE MEMBER WHO MR. BURT WATSON SERVED MORE THAN ONCE ON THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.

WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT HE PUT INTO THAT AND THE NORTHWEST TOWER BOARD. ATTACHED FOR YOUR REVIEW ARE AN E-MAIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD ALONG WITH EIGHT APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE FOUR WEEKS OF ADVERTISEMENT.

THAT'S THE BASICS OF THIS ITEM. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'M

HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. >> OKAY.

DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 14? RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

APPOINTMENTS. >> YEAH, AT THIS TIME WE'RE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 13.

THIS IS RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS.

>> WILLIAM HENNESSEY, WINDSWEPT ACRES SUBDIVISION WITH THE PALMETTO BOAT RAMP IS. I'M CONSIDERING THAT A RECREATIONAL POINT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH A BOARD? IS THIS THE REC DEPARTMENT? THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT. IT'S A CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD.

>> FOR THE RECOMMENDATION STUFF. DO Y'ALL HAVE A BOAT RAMP COMMITTEE TO GIVE ADVICE TO THESE RECREATIONAL BOARDS?

>> PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING THEY SHOULD CONSIDER.

WE DID HAVE ONE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

BILLY SIKES OVER THERE OFF SAN SEBASTION AND TURNED OUT TO BE A

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BILLY SIKES WAS THERE LEADING THE DISCUSSION AND WENT NOWHERE.

IF THERE'S APPOINTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE FILLED, DO Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE NAMES, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET ON THE BOARD. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL GO ABOUT PICKING PEOPLE.

I'M A BOAT OWNER AND FISHERMAN AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED AS FAR AS THE BOAT RAMPS GO.

IF Y'ALL NEED HELP. I WAS A GROUNDS KEEPER FOR A HUGE DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS CALLED FEDERAL PEN.

>> YES, SIR. >> AFTER THESE ITEMS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO GET WITH THE GENTLEMEN TO DISCUSS WITH HIM ABOUT VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES ON THE VARIOUS RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND OTHERS AND I THINK HE MAY HAVE BEEN REFERENCING MEETINGS THAT WERE BEING HELD ABOUT BOAT RAMPS COMMISSIONER WALDRON YOU RECALL THAT THEY WERE HAVING AT THAT TIME.

I KNOW SEVERAL OF THEM WERE IN THE SOUTH COUNTY.

>> WE ARE PRESENTLY WORKING ON BOAT RAMPS.

THAT WAS WITH STAFF AND NOT THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD

ITSELF. >> I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> I WILL MAKE THEM. MOTION TO REAPPOINT CASEY VAN RIDEN TO THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM

SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND.

VOES VOES >> YES.

>> I VOTE YES. >> WALDRON,

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES 4-0.

MOTION TO APPOINT WILLIAM L BOWEN.

TO RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE MARCH

16, 2025. >> SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. WHITEHURST.

>> YES. I VOTE

>> YES. >> MR. BLOCKER.

>> YES YES, SIR. AND THAT PASSES 4-0.

[14. Consider appointments to the Library Advisory Board.]

>> >> MOTION AND SECOND.

>> YES. I VOTE

>> COMMISSIONER WALDRON. >> YES.

AND COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR.

AND THAT VOTE PASSES 4-0. OKAY.

MOVING ON. MELISSA.

14. BEFORE YOU COMMISSIONERS IS TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES ON THIS TERM.

IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET ATTACHED FOR YOUR RERUE AND CONSIDERATION IS A RECOMMENDATION ALL RIGHT FROM THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

ALONG WITH THE 8 APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THIS BOARD. THAT IS THE BASICS.

IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS. >> IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE APPOINTMENT OF LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> WE ARE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 14.

APPOINTMENTS TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

>> HI, MY NAME IS SARAH CARLSSON.

I AM AT 234 SKY WOOD TRAIL IN PONTE VEDRA.

I WANTED TO AGAIN EXPRESS MY ENTHUSIASM FOR THE AT LARGE POSITION ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

IN ADDITION TO MY EDUCATION I HAVE A MASTERS OF LIBRARY BY WORK EXPERIENCE I WAS A NCE - TEACHER AND THEN I WAS A SCHOOL LIBRARIAN. I ALSO BRING A SPECIAL PERSPECTIVE TO THE BOARD AS A MOTHER OF THREE CHILDREN IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

AND SO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I ALSO BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AS SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOR FIVE YEARS AND CAME FROM TEXAS WHERE I HAD OTHER PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEMS THAT I WAS A PATRON OF AND PARTICIPATED WITH.

SO I BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THINGS COULD BE AND WITH THE EXPLOSIVE JUST GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, IT IS CRUCIAL FOR US TO MAKE UPDATES AND JUST KNOWING WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND OR WHAT COULD BE AND HAVING A VISION OF WHAT THE LIBRARY SYSTEM COULD BE. I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU SO CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 14?

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>> I ALMOST WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN HERE ALL DAY. BUT, MY NAME IS MARY GEAR AT 1165 COUNTY ROAD 13 SOUTH. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ONE OF THE APPLICANTS MIKE MAC NAMARA.

AS A BOARD MEMBER MYSELF AND I AM ONE OF THE APPLICANTS FOR A VACANT POSITION. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MIKE.

IN MY TIME ON THE BOARD, I SERVED FOR TWO DIFFERENT CHAIR PEOPLE AND HE THE BEST. HE'S THE MOST PROFESSIONAL.

HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT ROBERTS RULES.

HE PUTS IN EXTRA TIME. COMES TO ALL THE SPECIAL MEETINGS AND HE'S JUST A GREAT CHAIRPERSON AND A VERY HARD WORKING BOARD MEMBER. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL APPROVE HIM AND THAT HE'LL SERVE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MEL LONGO, 620, 21ST STREET ST.

AUGUSTINE. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. I HAVE BEEN HONORED TO SERVE WITH MIKE AND MARY GEAR FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY RUN, YOU COULDN'T FIND MORE DEDICATED ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS THAN THESE TWO. THEY HAVE ADVOCATED STRONGLY FOR THE LIBRARIES. MARY IS RIGHT.

MIKE RUNS A VERY GOOD MEETING. HAS A BOARD WE RECOMMENDED THEM TO BE RETAINED. AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE OUR ADVICE ON THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY GOOD MEMBERS AND HAVE SOME WORK THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO COMPLETE.

OUR APPLICANTS WERE VERY GOOD. WE HOPED THEY STAY ENGAGED WITH THE FRIENDS AND ALSO WILL REAPPLY WHEN THESE POSITIONS COME OPEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MR. LONGO. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 14, APPOINTMENTS TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. NOW IS THE TIME.

>> B.J. KLATY, WEST CITY OF ST. AUGUSTINE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE BEEN PUTTING PEOPLE ON THESE DIFFERENT BOARDS, MAYBE I MISSED IT IN THE PAST, BUT I DO TRY TO PAY ATTENTION, AN APPLICANT ACTUALLY AND THE OTHER THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER.

AN APPLICANT PUT IN THEIR NAME AND ACTUALLY SHOWED UP TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I MEAN.

THIS IS REALLY NEEDING TO BE PUT OUT IN THE MEDIA.

AND THE RECORD AND ALL YOUR SOCIAL THINGS AND ALL THAT STUFF. OKAY.

BECAUSE THIS SHOWS MAYBE THE OTHERS ARE WORKING SOME PLACE.

LET'S GIVE THEM THAT. IN ALL THIS TIME, AREN'T YOU IMPRESSED? I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE IMPRESSED A PERSON THAT WANTED TO SIT ON ONE OF THESE BOARDS FOR NO MONEY WOULD SHOW UP AND TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE.

WE NEED MORE OF THAT I THINK. THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION.

SO LET'S GET A VOTE GOING ON. >> THIS IS MS. KLATY.

>> I AGREE. EDSLAVEN.COM.

I THINK THE BETTER PRACTICE IS AT SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH WHEN THEY HIRE SOMEBODY FOR ACP OR OTHER VACANCY, THE PERSON IS INTERVIEWED. AT LEAST YOU RECOGNIZE THE PERSON THAT COMES TO THE PODIUM, EXPRESSES THEIR INTEREST AND JUST THE OTHER NIGHT, THE ST. AUGUSTINE COMMISSIONERS ASKED QUESTIONS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH VALUE BOARD LIKE THE LIBRARY BOARD OR THE PZA. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MR. SLAVEN. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 14?

>> YES, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOHN SALUCHY.

I LIVE AT 101 OVER LOOK DRIVE IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

I WAS HERE TO ECHO, WE HAD EIGHT TERRIFIC APPLICANTS.

THAT'S UNHEARD OF. THERE'S TWO THAT REALLY STAND OUT. MR. CARSON WAS UP HERE EARLIER.

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HAVING CHILDREN, BEING ABLE TO INTEGRATE ALL THE LIBRARY SERVICES WITH THE EDUCATION SERVICES.

JUST WITH ALL OF THAT. ALSO FOR THE AT LARGE SEAT, MR. CARLSSON. FOR DISTRICT TWO SEAT, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO MARGARET PETTY.

UNFORTUNATELY, SHE COULDN'T BE HERE.

SHE'S AN 11 YEAR EMPLOYEE OF THE ST. JOHNS LIBRARY.

SHE ALSO HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE AS WELL AS A BS DEGREE.

SHE'S STILL WITH THE LIBRARIES COMING ON BOARD AND POSSIBLY IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. THAT UNIQUE WORKING WITH THE ST.

JOHNS COUNTY LIBRARY AND ALL THOSE LIBRARIES WOULD HAVE TO BE STAFFED, OPENED AND OPERATED. THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER COULD WORK IN CONCERT WITH THE PRESENT BOARD TO REALLY KEEP THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE POINT GOING.

YEAH, I GIVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR THE TWO INCUMBENTS AT THE MOMENT. THEY HAVE VERY DEDICATED SERVICE AND BUT, THE CURRENT CHAIRMAN FOR THE AT LARGE INCUMBENCY IS IN HIS EIGHTH YEAR AND THE CURRENT RULES CALL FOR BASICALLY TWO TERMS, 8 YEARS. I THINK BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES MADE IN '16, IT WAS PERMISSIBLE TO GO I GUESS AN EXTRA FOUR YEARS ON TOP. IN CLOSING, THE TWO OUTSTANDING CANDIDATES. MS. CROSS AND MS. PETTY SEEM TO BE ABOVE THE OTHER ONES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 14? IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. COME DOWN AND STAND AT ONE OF THE AVAILABLE PODIUMS. MIC MAC NAMARA.

ON THE MATTER OF ACCURACY, IT'S NOT EIGHT YEARS ON THE BOARD.

I HAVE BEEN GOING TO MEETINGS FOR EIGHT YEARS.

I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A TWO-YEAR PERIOD AND EIGHT YEAR

PERIOD THANK YOU. >> SEEING NO ONE ELSE.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 14 IS CLOSED.

EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS IS MR. BLOCKER.

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR, IF YOU ALLOW, I AM

READY TO MOVE THIS >> YES.

GO AHEAD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPOINT SIERRA CARLSSON FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM SCHEDULED TO

EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 30, 2025. >> SECOND.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM WHITEHURST.

>> YES. >> MIS MYSELF MYSELF.

YES. >> NO.

I WILL GIVE AN EXPLANATION >>

>> YES. >> OKAY.

THAT PASSES 3-1. AND THAT WAS SARAH KARLSSON AND SO. YES.

>> IT'S NOTHING AGAINST MS. KARLSSON.

I LIKE TO SEE, WE HAVE PEOPLE ENGAGED AND INVOLVED.

I HAVE BEEN TO THE BOARD MEETINGS THEY HAVE.

THEY ARE VERY ENGAGED AND PREPARED.

I LIKE TO SEE THEM TURN THEM OUT BEFORE WE MAKE CHANGES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING THE LIBRARY AND MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT EXPANDING THIS BOARD. THE PEOPLE CAN BE INVOLVED IN THE MEETINGS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO.

THEY ARE ALL GREAT APPLICATIONS. SMART AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE AND

VERY WELL VERSED. >> WELL, LET ME ADD BEFORE WE GO TO THE SECOND OPENING. I DURING MY FIRST FOUR YEARS ON THE THIS BOARD SERVED ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AND GOT TO KNOW MIKE MACNAMARA AND WE HAVE A NEW PERSON WHO HAS A TREMENDOUS BACKGROUND IN LIBRARY SCIENCES AND MOTHER OF THREE AND WILLING TO SERVE. I WAS VERY TORN ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT SOMETIMES IT'S HELPFUL HAVING YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AND DONE A GREAT JOB BUT HAVE SERVED SIX YEARS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE BASED ON HER BACKGROUND AND INTEREST TO SUPPORT HER APPLICATION.

SO, IT WAS A TOUGH ONE AND WE GOT ANOTHER TOUGH ONE NOW.

THE NEXT ONE. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE SECOND

OPENING? >> IS THERE A MOTION?

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> I THOUGHT COMMISSIONER

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BLOCKER. >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

WERE YOU GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION?

>> I CAN UNLESS ANOTHER COMMISSIONER DOES.

I CAN. >> I AM PREPARED TO

>> OKAY. SIR.

GO AHEAD. >> I WAS, IF I CAN FIND MY

[15. St. Johns County Canvassing Board Schedule and Appointment.]

SEPTEMBER 30, >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND >> YES.

>> I VOTE >>

>> AND

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

THAT PASSES 4-0. OKAY THAT TAKES CARE OF THE

LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN.

THE COUNTY CANVASSING BOARD FOR PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTIONS.

WE DON'T NEED AN EXPLANATION HERE.

WHAT I SUGGEST IS WE OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN PROPOSE

A VOTE. >> OKAY.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AGENDA ITEM 15. PUBLIC COMMENT.

SEEING NONE. WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 15. I WILL MOVE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST AS A MEMBER OF THE COUNTY CANVASSING BOARD FOR THE 2022 PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTIONS.

I WILL SECOND THAT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

I JUST WANT TO SAY UNDER THE STATUTE.

NORMALLY THE CHAIR GOES ON THAT. IF THE CHAIR HAS A CONFLICT OR UNABLE TO SERVE, AND ONE REASON FOR THAT IS, IF THAT PERSON MAY DO SOME CAMPAIGNING OR EVEN CARRY A SIGN OR WEAR A HAT OR SOMETHING FOR ANY OF THE CANDIDATE ON THE ELECTION, THE 2022 ELECTION CYCLE. I GUESS IT'S PRESUMING TO PLACE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST ON THEIR THAT THE CHAIR WOULD BE UNAVAILABLE FOR THOSE REASONS OR POTENTIALLY UNAVAILABLE FOR THOSE REASONS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

>> I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. >> RIGHT.

I THOUGHT YOU JUST SAID IN THE EVENT THE CHAIRPERSON WAS UNABLE TO GO, MY MOTION IS TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST TO BE OUR APPOINTEE TO THE CANVASSING BOARD AND APPOINT AN ALTERNATE.

>> THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO.

THE STATUTE DOES SAY SUPERVISOR ELECTION AND COUNTY COURT JUDGE AND THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

IF ONE OF THOSE IS UNABLE TO SERVE AND AGAIN THE REASON FOR THAT IS POTENTIALLY CAMPAIGNING OR ASSISTING SOMEBODY OR CARRYING ANYTHING TO DO WITH SOMEBODY'S ELECTION OTHER THAN WRITING A CAMPAIGN CHECK, AND IF THE CHAIR WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, THEN THE BOARD SELECTS A PRIMARY PERSON FOR THE CANVASSING BOARD AND THAT IS THE CIRCUMSTANCE I THINK WE'RE IN NOW. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR

THE RECORD. >> LET ME MAKE MY MOTION IN THE EVENT THAT I AM UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE, I WANT TO MOVE THAT COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SERVE ON THE CANVASSING BOARD.

>> OKAY. YEP.

WE HAVE A MOTION IS SECOND ON THAT.

SO NOW WE WILL VOTE. >>

I >>

>> JEREMIAH.

>> YES, SIR. >> SO THAT PASSES 4-0.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE HAVE, WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPOINT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER AS AN ALTERNATIVE MEMBER OF THE COUNTY CANVASSING BOARD. OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR AN ALTERNATIVE MEMBER, AN ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER.

I MOVE WE APPOINT COMMISSIONER WALDRON AS ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE COUNTY CANVASSING BOARD FOR THE 2022 PRIMARY AND GENERAL

ELECTIONS. >> I SECOND THAT.

>> ALL LIGHT. IS WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE WILL HAVE A VOICE VOTE.

>> I VOTE YES.

[Public Comment]

>> YES. >> YOU CAN VOTE NO.

COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YES, SIR.

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THAT TAKES CARE OF THE CANVASSING BOARD.

I THINK THAT COMPLETES THE AGENDA UNTIL I'M MISTAKEN.

ANY OTHER ON THE AGENDA ON THE REGULAR AGENDA? WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE IT'S TIME TO GO TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> IT'S THIS TIME THE BOARD WILL HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS NOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. ANY PERSON WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SHOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND MAY NOT INCLUDE A COMMENT FOR AN IMMEDIATE REACTION. YOU SHOULD REFRAIN FROM APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF ANY COMMENTS. I ASK ANY SPEAKER THAT PRESENTS OVER HEAD MATERIAL PLEASE PRESENT THAT MATERIAL TO THE STAFF OF THE CLERK OF THE COURT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I'M IRVIN BULLOCK.

4370 COASTAL HIGHWAY. ST. AUGUSTINE.

I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU TWO BIG THANK-YOUS FOR A CHANGE.

THE FIRST IS I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WORKSHOPS PROPOSED FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN PHASE TWO FUNDING.

I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I THINK THIS MEANS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO VOICE UNDERSERVED IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE SOMEONE SPEAKING FOR THEM OR THEY WILL SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I THINK THAT THIS IS A REAL IMPORTANT THING TO HEAR FROM THE UNDER SERVED BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN THE MOST DEVASTATED BY COVID.

IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY IT GIVES THIS BOARD AS THEY MOVE ON THESE THINGS. I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT.

SECONDLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING WITH HOME AGAIN ON FINDING A NEW SITE. I HAVE TALKED TO HOME AGAIN YESTERDAY. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THIS IS BOTH OF THESE ARE COMPLICATED ISSUES.

THEY'RE A LOT OF WORK AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

WE WILL BE BACK TO CHECK IN. SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND CHEER YOU ON IN THIS BECAUSE I THINK BOTH

IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU.

>> AS THE NEXT SPEAKER STARTS TO COME UP.

WE HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHIP SCHEDULED IN JANUARY.

I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME DATE IN FEBRUARY FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN WORKSHOPS TO BEGIN. SO THAT WILL BE SOME TIME PROBABLY BETWEEN OUR TWO BOARD MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY.

WE ALL RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. >> HELLO I WILL MELISSA FISHER, PONTE VEDRA, FLORIDA AND THE COMMUNITY OF MARSH LANDING.

WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THERE ARE NO COUNTY BUILDING OR LAND CODES TO HELP THE RESIDENTS AND MARSH LANDING WAS BUILT BEFORE THERE WAS COUNTY CODES. NOW WE FIND OUT THE COUNTY HAS HAD CODE SINCE 1978 THAT COVERED THE RESIDENTS OF MARSH LANDING.

WE HAVE WASTED FOUR YEARS OF OUR LIFE.

SENIOR CITIZEN ARE ROLLING DOWN THE DRIVEWAYS AND BREAKING THEIR BONES. OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION HAS TOLD THE COMMISSIONERS THERE IS NO COUNTY CODE.

WE ARE REGULAR CITIZENS. WHY COULDN'T THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES FIND THIS INFORMATION? MR. DE SOUSA FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS LANDING SAYS THE MARSH LANDING WAS SUBJECT PRIOR TO WHEN THE COUNTY CODE EXISTED. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS FOR FOUR YEARS BY THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND KNOW THERE'S CODE SINCE 1978. THIS MEANS ALL OF MARSH LANDING WAS BUILT BEFORE CODE. WE HAVE NO DRAINAGE.

MR. CONRAD AT 509 STATES HE WOULD NOT HAVE THE WATER FLOW IN MARSH LANDING. COUNTY HAS HAD IT FOR OVER A YEAR. MR. WALDRON HAS BEEN SENT COPIES OF THIS. ALL MR. CONRAD HAD TO DO WAS PULL UP IT ON THE WEBSITE TO FIND THE INFORMATION MR. WALDRON WAS LOOKING FOR. WHY MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT

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AT 5:09:30. HE STATES THIS IS NOT THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY. COUNTY CODE CLEARLY STATES ALL PRIVATELY OWNED FACILITIES CONSTRUCTED AFTER THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE CONTINUOUSLY MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION AND OT ENTITY APPROVED BY THE COUNTY.

THIS ORDINANCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

THE COUNTY HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL COUNTY FACILITIES.

COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE ASKING THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO SOLVE A COUNTY PROBLEM. MY REBUTTAL THIS IS A ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS ISSUE. MR. CONRAD STATES THE FLOODING ISSUES IN MARSH LANDING PREDATES CODE.

THERE ARE CODES FROM 1978 AND FOUND THE ORDINANCES ITSELF.

THANK YOU MS. FISHER. GOOD AFTERNOON.

JAMES HENSLEY. 7330 OAK MONT COURT.

TO REITERATE WHAT PHYSICAL FISHER STATES.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW DISAPPOINTED I AM TO COME HERE FOUR YEARS AND THEY TELL YOU THERE'S NO CODE AND NORMAL CITIZENS WHO HAVE A JOB TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY HAVE TO SPEND MY TIME MAKING FOYA REQUESTS. I HAVE THE CODE WITH ME.

PEOPLE HAVE FALLEN, BROKEN THEIR LEGS AND ARMS. WE COULD HAVE FIXED THIS BY NOW. I'M JUST GOING TO BE VERY CALM TODAY. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW DISAPPOINTED I AM THEY WOULD LEAD YOU ASTRAY AT THAT.

THE ONLY WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT IS TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THEM AND ASK THEM WHY THEY DID IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE TODAY. MARSH LANDING HAD TWO CHOICES RIGHT HERE. REPERMIT OR PUT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE. THEY CHOSE TO RE-PERMIT AND THEY CHOSE TO HONOR THE CURRENT DISTRICT RULES.

THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS. THEY HAD THE CHOICE.

THEY'RE REPERMITTING. IT'S NOT A MODIFICATION.

MARSH LANDING WAS BUILT INCORRECTLY.

THIS IS FROM RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT.

BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY.

STAFF DETERMINED THE EXISTING SYSTEM WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED AND OPERATED PER THE ORIGINAL PERMIT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HEARS THAT.

THAT IS A STATE AGENCY STATING IT WAS NOT BUILT CORRECTLY.

THIS IS THE CODE FROM 1978. THAT I SUBPOENAED MYSELF.

AND IT WAS THERE FOR ME. WHY THE COUNTY PEOPLE HERE, THE EMPLOYEES DID NOT KNOW IT WAS THERE AND TOLD YOU FOUR TIMES ON CAMERA, I CAN GIVE YOU THE GATES AND TIMES OF THE VIDEO WHEN THEY SAID IT. IS BEYOND ME.

CLEARLY YOU CAN SEE. THEY HAD TWO CHOICES.

ONCE FOR A RURAL AND ONE IS FOR URBAN AREA.

URBAN MEANS 2500 AND ABOVE. PONTE VEDRA IS WELL ABOVE 2500 PEOPLE AND WE'RE NOT A RURAL COMMUNITY.

THEREFORE WE SHOULD HAVE HAD CURB AND GUTTER.

WHEN BELOW DE SOUSA TALKED TO MS. FISHER, I WASN'T THERE.

I DON'T PASS GOSSIP. HIS POINT IS IT'S NEVER BLACK AND WHITE. I APOLOGIZE TO YOU FOR MISTALKING TO THE BOARD AND TO FOR YOUR YEARS AND APOLOGETIC TO THAT. HE SAYS IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE. I'M TIRED OF THE NON-BLACK AND WHITE. HERE'S YOUR CODE.

777 PAGES OF YOUR CODE IS RIGHT HERE.

AND IN THIS CODE FOR A NEW PERMIT.

IT SAYS THE BERMS NEED PLUS SIX INCHES AND THE SLOPES NEED TO BE 4 TO ONE. THAT IS YOUR CODE.

HE IS SAYING SINCE THEY APPLIED FOR A PERMIT WITH RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT AND NOT WITH YOU. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO.

WHY DO YOU HAVE 16 PAGES OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT CODE IN YOUR PLANS? YOU MUST FOLLOW THOSE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> SPEAKING OFF MIC. >> I JUST WANTED IT INTRODUCE YOU. I AM THE NEWLY APPOINTED LIAISON TO ST. JOHNS. BEFORE THEY WAS A STUDENT AT AERONAUTICAL INSTITUTE. THURSDAY JANUARY 6TH, WE WILL BE

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YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT INVITE LINK TODAY AT 11 O'CLOCK.

PLEASE FREELY FREE TO SEND THAT TO YOUR STAFF.

I GAVE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST OUR LEGISLATIVE CHAIRPERSON THE PRIORITIES. AS WE MOVE INTO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, PLEASE GIVE THIS TO OUR LEADERS TO ACCOMPLISH THE THINGS

WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> THANK YOU MR. NOLAN.

>> SHERRY BADGER, 2772 SOUTH COLLINS AVENUE.

ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. ONCE AGAIN GENTLEMEN I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

HEARING THE SAME STUFF. THESE, YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE IMPROVING IN TELLING Y'ALL THIS IS LEGAL THAT THEY'RE DOING IT.

AND Y'ALL ARE LETTING THEM. IT'S FALLING ON DEAF YEARS.

I TOLD Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE THE STEWARDS.

WE HAVE NONE OF Y'ALL LOOKING OUT FOR OUR BACKS.

ST. JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT SAID IT WAS OKAY.

IT MUST BE OKAY. YOU LOOK AT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU LOOK AT THE DITCH WHAT YOUR STAFF HAD APPROVED, WAS A 24- INCH PIPE GOING INTO A FOUR FOOT BY SIX FOOT DITCH AND THEN GOING INTO AN 18 INCH PIPE. COME ON GUYS.

Y'ALL NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

GOD BLESS. HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> ED SLAVEN. EDSLAVEN.COM.

I AGREE WITH MS. BADGER. I HAVE GONE TO HER NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEEN THE DITCH. IN RESPONSE WHAT Y'ALL SAID ABOUT PEARL HARBOR, MY DAD APPLIED AND WAS REJECTED BECAUSE OF HIS ICE. HELPED TO LIBERATE THE FIRST FRENCH TOWN. GOT THERE AT ONE IN THE MORNING JUNE 6, 1944. THAT WAS THE VERY FIRST TOWN LIBERATED FROM THE NAZIS. HE WAS ALMOST 33 YEARS OLD THAT DAY. THEY CALLED HIM THE OLD MAN.

GENERAL GAVIN WAS OLDER AND HIS FRIEND JOHN STEEL WAS OLDER.

DAD WAS MAYBE THE THIRD OLDEST GUY IN THE UNIT AND TOLD ME AS JFK'S DAD TOLD HIM. IF YOU DON'T STAND UP TO PEOPLE WITH POWER, YOU'RE STANDING NOW. OUR PROBLEMS ARE MAN-MADE AND THEREFORE MAY BE SOLVED BY MAN. MAN CAN BE AS BIG AS HE WANTS.

NO PROBLEM IS BEYOND HUMAN BEINGS.

WE NEED TO DEVELOP A CRIMINAL, CIVIL AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMISSION ON THE ORDERS HANDED OUT LIKE CANDY TO CHILDREN TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T FOLLOW THEM. WHO DISOBEY THEM AND HIRE LOBBYIST AND LAWYERS. WE NEED TO HAVE AN END AND A BAN ON CLEAR CUTTING AND DEFORESTATION.

WE NEED TO HAVE COUNTY REGISTRATION OF LOBBYISTS.

WE NEED TO HAVE AN INVESTIGATION OF EMBEZZLEMENT IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THERE'S A LADY IN PRISON FOR THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS OF EMBEZZLEMENT.

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A FORENSIC AUDIT AND PLEASE HAVE A LIST OF COUNTY $321 MILLION OF INVESTMENTS.

FIVE YEARS AGO TODAY ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF PEARL HARBOR.

JUDGE HOWARD MCGIL AN DENIED A STALKING INJUNCTION SOUGHT AGAINST TOM REYNOLDS. THE MAYOR OF SAINT AUGUSTINE SAID HE SHOULD BURN FOR HIS CLIMAT HE SAID DID YOU THINK MR. REYNOLDS WAS THE DEITIES? WE EXPECT YOU TO LISTEN. DON'T INTERRUPT PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE SPEAKING AND DON'T EVEN THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE SPEAKING OBJECTIONS AND CUT INTO PEOPLE'S TIME.

THAT WAS WRONG. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> THANK YOU MR. SLAVEN. >> B.J. KLATY.

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AT THE PZA DECEMBER 2ND, 2021, MEETING, THE FOOD TRUCK BUSINESS VILLAGE GREEN MISSPOKE ABOUT SHERIFF HARDWICK'S COMMENTS.

YOU THINK ABOUT THIS AND SOMETIMES GREED CLOUDS THE TRUTH. NUMBER TWO, I HEARD TOLD THE DEPUTIES THIS MORNING. WE SHOULD BE VERY THANKFUL WHEN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SUCH AS WAL-MART AND OTHERS TAKES THE TIME TO PROSECUTE THOSE WHO STEAL.

THIS IS GOING ON AND WHEN YOU DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S A HASSLE AND PEOPLE MAY A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND EVERYTHING IS FINE AND DANDY. IT COMES BACK ON US WHEN WE SHOP. I'M GLAD THEY MENTIONED THAT THIS MORNING. I KNOW OF A SPECIFIC INCIDENT.

I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THIS AND AGREE WITH WHAT MR. DEAN WAS SAYING ABOUT OUR RIGHT TO SPEAK. THAT WHY I STAY HERE ALL DAY.

GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BELONGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETINGS SPECIAL A MATTER OF RESPECT.

TODAY'S WORD. WE'RE IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

SO, IT STARTS WITH A C. H-R- I-S-T.

CHRIST. ALONG WITH THAT, I WANT TO SAY, I BELIEVE THIS WITH ALL MY HEART.

WITHOUT CHRIST THERE WOULD BE NO CHRISTMAS.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THAT. GOOD OLD SANTA CLAUS.

EVEN SANTA I DON'T BELIEVE WOULD BE AROUND IF WE DON'T REMEMBER WHAT CHRISTMAS IS REALLY ABOUT. SO THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. WELCOME BACK.

ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

COME BACK TO THE AVAILABLE PODIUM.

>> WILLIAM HENNESSEY, SAINT AUGUSTINE.

WINDSWEPT ACRES. WHAT WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH HERE IS THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS KEEP INCORPORATING THEIR LANDSCAPING INTO COUNTY RIGHT RIGHT-OF-WAY, THIS SCALE SAYS 70 FEET TO AN INCH.

WE HAVE 70 FEET RUNNING DOWN TO THE BOAT RAMP.

BUT IT TURNS OUT BETWEEN NO PARKING SIGNS AND LANDSCAPING, RIGHT HERE YOU HAVE ABOUT 30 FEET.

WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED LIKE AN EGG.

YOU LOOP AROUND AND BACK INTO THE BOAT RAMP.

NOW, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS DODGE NO PARKING SIGNS, COQUINA STONES, PALM TREES, PAVER BRICKS AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL BUT IT DON'T BELONG TO THEM. IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LAUNCH THEIR BOAT. IT BELONGS TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO TO THE PARK. IT BELONGS TO EVERY ONE OF US.

DO ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE A BOAT? I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

REAL IMPORTANT AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHO HAVE BOATS. IF YOU GO DOWN SOUTH ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE, YOU'VE GOT BUTLER PARK WEST.

THIS IS BUTLER PARK NORTH. IT'S NOT SUNSET LANDING.

IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1960. MY HOUSE WAS BUILT BEFORE ANY OF THESE GUYS WERE MOVED IN. YET THEY THINK THEY CONTROL IT.

AND A BIG THANK-YOU KEN AMIRA I MET HIM AT THE HOT SPOT MOTEL, THE HOT SPOT CAFETERIA AND GAVE HIM A BUNCH OF FOOTAGE AND HE WENT DOWN THERE AND LOOKED AT IT.

HE DEFINITELY SAID THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYTHING DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

THIS MAN APE DRIVEWAY'S IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN SUNSET LANDING. I WENT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT LOOKING FOR IT. NEVER APPLIED FOR A VARIANCE.

HIS MAILBOX IS ON THE ROAD. WHAT ENGINEER WOULD SAY SURE,

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THEY ARE PULLED OUT THINKING NOBODY THEREBY WELL.

THE COUNTY SAYS, TAKE IT. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN FEEDING THESE

[Commissioners’ Reports]

SOMEBODY WILL GET >> THANK YOU

>> YES, >> THEY'RE HOSTILE.

>> YEAH. MR. HENNESSEY.

IF WE CAN PUT THAT OVER HEAD IN THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE SEEKING TO MAKE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? NOW IS THE TIME.

GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. SEEING NONE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

WE'RE DONE WITH GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK THAT BRINGS US TO COMMISSIONER REPORTS.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. >> THANK YOU.

I WILL START COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST WITH YOU.

I HAVE JUST TWO THINGS. ONE IS TO THANK COMMISSIONER WALDRON FOR THE MOMENT OF SILENCE THIS MORNING.

YOU KNOW PEARL HARBOR DAY IS AN IMPORTANT DAY EVERY YEAR.

WE SHOULD NOT FORGET MEANS WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET.

I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND THE CLERK OF THE COURT MAKING SURE WE COMMEMORATE PEARL HARBOR DAY.

SECOND THING IS, I WAS APPOINTED TO THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COUNSEL BY THIS BOARD AND HAD THE HONOR TO BE APPOINTED TO HEAD UP THE LEGISLATIVE AND POLICY COMMITTEE. SO AS A BODY, THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COUNCIL AND THE LEGISLATIVE POLICY COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH FOUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

I JUST SORT OF WANTED TO SHARE WITH THIS ROOM AND HOPEFULLY GET CONSENSUS FROM OUR BOARD THESE WOULD BE PRIORITIES FITTING OUR PRIORITIES HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

FIRST IS SMALL COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE KNOW THE CHALLENGES GROWTH HAS BROUGHT US AND WILL SEEK DOLLARS FROM STATE. RESILIENCY EFFORTS WILL BE A POINT OF EMPHASIS. AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BROADBAND TO HELP THOSE UNDER SERVED COMMUNITIES.

THOSE ARE FOUR LEGISLATIVE POLICIES I WILL BE DELEGATING FOR TO THE HEAD OF CERTAIN COMMITTEES.

WANTED TO GET THIS BOARD'S THOUGHTS ON THE FOUR LEGISLATIVE

PRIORITIES. >> FIRST I SUPPORT THEM.

I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER WALDRON AND BLOCKER IF THEY HAVE

COMMENTS. >> I'M GOOD ON

>> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >>

>> SIR, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST BRIEF US

ON THAT AND FULLY SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. I DO WANT IT SAID THAT WE ADDRESSED THE DESIRE FOR MORE LOCAL CONTROL AND LESS PREEMPTIONS FROM THE STATE. THE THOUGHT THERE WAS THAT OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY IN TALLAHASSEE UNDERSTANDS THAT.

WE WANT MORE LOCAL CONTROL AND FOCUS ON THINGS WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO GET A YES ON. WE PUT THESE FOUR ITEMS ON LITERATURE THAT WILL GO INTO THE HANDS OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN TALLAHASSEE. THAT'S ALL

>> THANK >> PAUL.

AND COMMENTS? >> NO.

I JUST WANTED TO LET I'M ON THE CAREER SOURCE BOARD ALSO.

OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR LAST MONTH WAS 2.9 %.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHICH IS EVEN THOUGH THERE'S JOBS OUT THERE EVERYWHERE, WHOEVER WANTS TO WORK IS PRETTY MUCH WORKING.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GET THE BOARD TO KNOW WE DID THIS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. WE SENT MS. GAIL AND THEM DOWN TO SURVEY PALMETTO ROAD AND SEE IF ANYTHING IS IN RIGHT-OF-WAY AND GET THAT CLONED THANK YOU.

>> YEAH. >> I LIKE TO DO THAT TOO.

>> THIS BRINGS ME TO OTHER OTHER ITEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT. ACTUALLY THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY BY MY DAD. A LOT OF TIMES.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING ON BECAUSE STAFF CAN'T TELL US EITHER. SOMETIMES WE HAVE STAFF CHASE THINGS AND DOING A LOT OF WORK THAT THE WHOLE BOARD MAY NOT AGREE WITH OR HASN'T DIRECTED THEM.

JUST IN YOUR MIND, KEEP IN MIND THAT MAYBE WE'RE PUTTING A BIGGER STRESS ON THEM GOING DOWN INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT WE ARE PASSING ABOUT BUT NEED TO BRING TO THE BOARD TO GET BOARD CONSENSUS. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT.

>> GOOD POINT. I DON'T KNOW STAFF FEELS THAT WAY. THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T ADMIT IT.

>> WELL EVERY TIME THEY TALK TO EACH OF US, THEY TELL US WE'RE

THEIR FAVORITE >> CORRECT.

I HAVE BEEN THERE. >> CONGRATULATIONS ON THE

REGIONAL COUNCIL. >> ALL RIGHT.

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COMMISSIONER BLOCKER. >> YOO THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR A GREAT MEETING AND TALK ABOUT THE DECEMBER 7TH. ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT AND I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER BY A SPEAKER.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT MOBILIZED AN ENTIRE GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS TO STEP UP IF ARE THEIR COUNTRY. WE'RE COMING OUT OF WORLD WAR I AND A WHOLE GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS STOOD UP TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND WE ALL HAVE FAMILY. WE KNOW YOUR MOTHER PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND WE TREASURE OUR FAMILY THAT SERVED IN THE CONFLICTS. JUST A REMINDER WE'RE ONLY ONE GENERATION AWAY FROM LOSING OUR FREEDOM AND THAT GENERATION STOOD UP AND FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.

WE WILL NEED FUTURE GENERATIONS TO DO THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN AND THANK YOU STAFF.

LOOK FORWARD TO ALL OF Y'ALL HAVING A GREAT HOLIDAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

THAT REMINDED WE ONE THING I WANTED TO OVER LOOK WAS THE PASSING OF BOB DOYLE, U.S. SENATOR.

STARTING HIS YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE.

OF COURSE STARTED IN WORLD WAR II WHERE HE WAS SEVERELY INJURED. THAT DID NOT SLOW HIM DOWN.

HE WENT ON TO BE A GREAT SENATOR AND ADVOCATE FOR THE STATE OF KANSAS. I WANT TO BRIEFLY, IF I MAY.

MENTION A POINT. I SEE THAT GREG CALDWELL AND HERE AND HE MAY WANT TO HAVE DWANE CHIME IN TOO.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET A QUICK VERY QUICK REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THE CORP US POINT FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORT PARTICULARLY THE OUTFALL PROPOSED AND ALSO LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE THE STAFF TELL US IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL OPINION TODAY, WHETHER OR NOT IN THEIR OPINION A SECOND OUTFALL IS NEEDED OR WHAT RAMIFICATIONS OR PROCESS EXISTS IF WE WANTED TO EVEN PURSUE A SECOND OUT FALL THROUGH THE CONDEMNATION PROCESS OR EMINENT DOMAIN.

MY QUESTION WAS AS LONG AS I ANTICIPATED THE ANSWER, RATHER SHORT. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

>> GREG CALDWELL, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

>> GIVE YOU A QUICK STATUS UPDATE.

WE ISSUES NOTICE TO PROCEED WITH THE OUT FALL.

THEY HAD A KICK OFF MEETING. WE HAVE A CONTRACT UNDER WAY.

WE HAVE A 90 DAY CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME ON THE INSTALLATION OF OUR OUT FALL. THE PROJECT YOU APPROVED IS MOVING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY BY MARCH THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE.

I WILL PASS IT OVER TO DWYANE TO TALK ABOUT THE OUT FALL.

>> YES, SIR. DWANE KENT.

I AM YOUR COUNTY ENGINEER. I AM CONFIDENT THE SINGLE OUT FALL WILL SERVE THE PURPOSE TO DRAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER TIDAL FLOODING IN THE AREA. IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION.

>> I AM SURE OBVIOUSLY ONCE THIS OUT FALL IS CONSTRUCTED AND WE HAVE A MAJOR STORM, I'M SURE WE WILL BE MONITORING THAT CLOSELY AND CERTAINLY CAN RESPOND AS NEEDED.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I KNOW THAT I AM NOT AN EXPERT

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HAVING SAID THAT, LET'S JUST KEEP OUR EYE ON THE BALL HERE AND IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORTS, WE CAN DEAL WITH IT. I'M RELYING DWANE ON YOUR

PROFESSIONAL OPINION >> THANK YOU,

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THE DAY. HUNTER.

ANY ADMIN COMMENTS? >> JUST ONE BRIEFLY.

THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE HAS A PORTABLE RADIO SYSTEM.

THE FIRE RESCUE HAS FOUND AN GRANT TO FLY FOR THAT WOULD BE AN 85-15 MATCH. 15% TO THE COUNTY.

85% TOWARDS THE ALLOCATION OF USING GRANT FUNDING FOR THE HAND HELD PORTABLE RADIOS. IT WAS RELEASED IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR AND THE SUBMISSION DEADLINE IS DECEMBER 17TH.

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WE ASK FOR APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

IF IT'S AWARDED, THERE WOULD BE AN PROPOSITION AND TRANSFER THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE FIRE DISTRICT RESERVES AND APPROXIMATELY 200,000 JUST A LITTLE OVER $202,000 WOULD BE THE COUNTY'S AND THAT'S THE DOLLARS AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU. WE'RE LOOKING FOR BOARD MOTION AND CONSENSUS IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THAT GRANT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE STAFF REQUEST TO APPLY FOR A FIRE AND RESCUE GRANT.

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>> I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO, IS THERE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.

I >>

>> >> I VOTE

>> >> COMMISSIONER BLOCKER.

>> YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE HUNTER? >> NO, SIR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WELL, LET'S TURN TO OUR SOON TO BE RETIRED COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>> YES. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

I DO HAVE JUST A NUMBER OF FAIRLY SMALL NUMBER OF ITEMS. THE BOARD IS AWARE THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE NATIONAL OPIOIDS LITIGATION AND THERE IS A KIND OF FAST MOVER THAT IS COME UP AND I HEAR MR. SLAVEN'S COMMENTS.

I WISH I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT ALL OF THIS ON THE AGENDA.

BUT, JUST, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONERS HAVE REVIEWED THIS BUT JUST TO GO OVER IT FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT.

THE COUNTY'S OUTSIDE COUNCIL COUNSEL ON OPIOID MATTERS ADVISED THE SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS WITH THE DISTRIBUTORS AND JOHNSON & JOHNSON HAVE BEEN FINALIZED INCLUDING THE ALLOCATION WITH THE STATE. ANY BOARD APPROVALS OR AUTHORIZATIONS BE OBTAINED BY DECEMBER 7TH, WHICH IS TODAY TO ALLOW ADEQUATE TIME FOR THE PARTICIPATION AGREEMENTS TO BE SIGNED BY THE JANUARY 2ND DEADLINE.

SO, A BRIEF SUMMARY. THE DISTRIBUTOR AND J & J SETTLEMENTS. ONE IS WITH OPIOID.

APPROXIMATELY 1.3 MILLION TO FLORIDA.

JOHNSON & JOHNSON DEAL, UP TO $5 BILLION NATIONALLY, $300 MILLION TO FLORIDA. VARIOUS INCENTIVES PER PARTICIPATION IN THAT. PAYMENTS WOULD START NEXT YEAR AND CONTINUE FOR 17.5 YEARS. TO PARTICIPATE IN EACH AGREEMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MUST EXECUTE A FLORIDA SUBDIVISION PARTICIPATION FORM. I WILL ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT. WHICH INCLUDES DISMISSAL AND RELEASE OF CLAIMS AGAINST DISTRIBUTORS AND J AND J.

IF LESS THAN 95% OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS PARTICIPATE.

THE RELEASES ARE VOID. THIS HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED OUT NATIONALLY AND REALLY THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND IT IS OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD TO ENTER INTO THIS TO AVOID LOSING MONEY.

SO, THE SETTLEMENT FUND ALLOCATIONS.

AS YOU REMEMBER IN JULY, THE BOARD APPROVED AN M.O.U.

OUTLINING A SETTLEMENT DISTRIBUTION ARRANGEMENT.

THE M.O.U. HAS BEEN FURTHER FORMALIZED IN THE STATE WIDE RESPONSE AGREEMENT AGAIN STATE WIDE WITH ALL THE PARTICIPATING COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES. SO ALLOCATION 15% OF THE FUNDS GO DIRECTLY TO ALL CITIES AND COUNTIES.

THAT'S DIRECTLY. SLIDING PERCENTAGE OF FUNDS GO TO THE REGIONAL FUNDS. AND I COULD GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THAT. THE BOTTOM LINE, FOR THE COUNTY IS, IT LOOKS BY THE MATERIALS THAT I HAVE SEEN ST. JOHNS

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THE ABILITY TO CAPTURE COSTS OR PASS OPIOID RELATED COST IS NOT PORT OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT BUT FOR FORWARD LOOKING.

THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE USED FOR OPIOID RELATED ACTIVITIES AND CAN'T BE USED FOR EXAMPLE BOAT RAMPS OR BALL FIELDS OR THAT KIND OF THING.

WITH THAT, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD REQUEST A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE THE FLORIDA SUBDIVISION PARTICIPATION FORM FOR THE OPIOID DISTRIBUTORS SETTLEMENT AND THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON SETTLEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. THAT'S A LOT OF TALKING.