Nov 04, 2021 Planning and Zoning Agency

[Call meeting to order.]

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>> I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

WE WILL START WITH THE LEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MADAME VICE CHAIR, CAN WE HAVE THE READING OF THE PUBLIC NOTICE

STATEMENT, PLEASE >> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.

SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN TO STAFF.

THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE ME THE ON EACH ADVERTISEMENT FORE RAY ITEM OF DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH SHALL BE THREE MINUTES SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT, AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.

IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY IN ANY REVIEW OR APPEAL RELATING TO THE ITEM.

BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY.

IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED, THE AGENCY MEMBER SHOULD THEN IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION.

CIVILITY CLAUSE. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL.

AT THIS TIME WE HAVE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

EACH ITEM WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ALSO, BUT THIS TIME IS AVAILABLE IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT

[10. MAJMOD 21-08 Bridle Ridge PUD. MAJMOD 2021-08, Request for a Major Modification to the Bridle Ridge PUD (ORD 2010-42) revising the Master Development Plan to reflect changes of allowed uses in order to accommodate the addition of a new U-Haul facility.]

AND IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO OFFER ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT OF ORDER AND TAKE AN ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REMANDED AND HAS BEEN CONTINUED, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEM NUMBER 10 TODAY AND THEN MOVE BACK THROUGH THE REGULAR AGENDA.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THERE.

KAREN TAYLOR 77 SARAGOSSA STREET.

AND THIS WILL SOUND FAMILIAR TO A FEW OF YOU.

THIS IS BRIDLE RIDGE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BUT WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU BEFORE TWEED THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL AS THE MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THIS EXISTING PUD.

WE WENT FORWARD WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION WITH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SO THAT'S DONE, SO TODAY WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE MAJOR MODIFICATION. AND WE ACTUALLY REQUESTED OF THE COMMISSION TO COME BACK JUST SO YOU COULD GET AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WAS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS THE SAME BASICALLY THE SAME PLAN. WE HAVE MADE A COUPLE CHEQUES CHANGES. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WEREN'T THERE FOR THE MEETING THAT WE WERE AT, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH, THIS IS AT THE CORN 16 AND 16A AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE FROM THIS AERIAL IT'S AT THE END OF THE SILVERLEAF PARKWAY AS IT COMES IN, AND IT'S NORTH OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL NODE THAT'S AT THE MURABELLA AREA. JUST COMING IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, THIS IS -- IT HAS BEEN A FARM FIELD FOR MANY YEARS, CATTLE GRAZING. MR. -- ELLEN ROBERTS ZONED IT FOR A LONG TIME AND THESE FOLKS, THE U-HAUL FOLKS BOUGHT IT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. THIS IS BASICALLY HOW THE NEW

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YOU CAN SEE THERE'S COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND THERE'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL C. THAT WOULD BE SILVERLEAF WHICH ALSO SOME OF THAT IS ALSO ALLOWED TO HAVE COMMERCIAL AS WELL IN THIS. AND JUST A LITTLE, GOING OUT A BILL COSBY LITTLE BIT FARTHER TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL GENERAL OF THE DIFFERENT LAND USES IN THE AREA AREA. IT IS PUD, AND AS JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE PUDS OR WE STUL HAVE FARM, OPEN RURAL LANDS OUT HERE, AND THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME THAT KIND OF PEEKS IN THERE IN THE SOUTH.

AND AGAIN JUST A CLOSER, AND IT SHOWINGS YOU A GOOD VISUAL OF THE LOCATION OF THE'S E HARDWARE.

THIS WAS APPROVED ACTUALLY IN THE PUD TILT.

IT WAS FOR MORE OF A STANDARD COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS ON THE CORNER.

ALL THE THINGS, THIS WAS DONE DURING THE TIME FOR THE NORTHWEST SECTOR, SO IT HAS THE COMMUNITY SPACE DEVELOPMENT EDGE. AND WE HAD THREE ACCESS POINTS TO IT AS WELL, TWO, ONE PLANNED TO LINE UP WITH THE HARDWARE STORE AS WELL AS ANOTHER ONE ON 16A AND ONE WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT NOW. WHEN WE CAME TO SEE YOU BEFORE, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT HAD, AND IT SHOWS THE 9.8 ACRES WHICH IS THE REGULAR COMMERCIAL LAND USE AREA, SHOWING THE U OMAHA FACILITY. IT'S A TOTAL OF 155,000 SQUARE FEET. THERE IS AN ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 50 FEET. WE DO HAVE SINGLE STORY STORAGE ON THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE AS WELL.

AND THE RESERVED RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND I DID MENTION THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, THIS RESERVED RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS ESTABLISHED MANY YEARS AGO WITH THE FIRST TIME SILVERLEAF WAS COMING THROUGH. THERE WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT TYPE INTERCHANGE THERE.

SO WE HAD KEPT THAT. WELL, AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH OUR PROJECT, WE DID RECEIVE THIS FROM THE COUNTY FROM ENGLAND THIMS & MILLER BASICALLY SHOWING THE NEW RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED AND THE CHANGES FOR FOUR-LANING THIS SECTION OF STATE ROAD 16 IN FRONT OF US.

SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES, WE ACTUALLY WORKED ON OUR SITE PLAN, AND THAT'S THE NEW SITE PLAN THAT YOU WILL SEE.

AND THAT SHOWS THE 9.8 ACRES. WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN SQUARE FOOTAGE. THEY TOOK THEIR CONTAINER STORAGE AREA AND WANTED THAT IN A SEPARATE BUILDING.

SO THAT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IT DID BEFORE.

EVERYTHING ELSE PRETTY MUCH STAYS THE SAME, BUT NOW WE'RE AT A ACRE AND A QUARTER OF RESERVED RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT RUNS ALL ALONG THE SOUTH EDGE THERE. WE STILL HAVE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AND SCENIC EDGE ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL.

THE COMMUNITY SPACE STAYED IN THE SAME LOCATION, AND WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS POINTS, WE HAVE AN ACCESS POINT THAT IS HERE. DOT DID NOT WANT ONE LINED UP WITH THE HARDWARE STORE IN THEIR DESIGNS.

SO WE ELIMINATED THAT ONE. WE HAVE THIS ONE, ABOUT WE DO HAVE AN EXIT ACTUALLY ON 16A AS WELL.

JUST GETTING IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DO TO ADD TO THAT, IT ACTUALLY TOOK THE DISPLAY AREA DOWN, AND PROBABLY THE ONLY THING AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WE HAD THAT PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT WAS HAVING THE DISPLAY OF THE U-HAUL TYPE THING, SO THAT ACTUALLY REDUCED THAT. WE'VE ADDED A FENCING ALONG THAT WOULD CONNECT THE BUILDING AND LOOK SIMILAR TO THE BUILDING SO THAT THAT'S A CONTINUOUS. SO BASICALLY ALL OF THE ACTIVITY WOULD BE -- IS PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE INTERNAL TO THE SITE.

JUST SOME PICTURES OF THAT, OF THE SITE.

LOOKING AT IT FROM THE ACE HARDWARE SITE BACK TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST, AND THIS IS ACROSS FROM THAT ON 16A.

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AND KIND OF THE CHANGES IN THE INTERSECTION ONCE SILVERLEAF PARKWAY HAS BEEN FINISHED AND ALL THE PEOPLE USING IT AT THIS POINT. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY LOOKING ONE DIRECTION AND THEN LOOKING THE OTHER WAY, LOOKING SOUTH, ONE LOOKING NORTH. SO THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THAT 13.55-ACRE PUD TO ALLOW FOR THE U-HAUL FACILITY AND THE BOAT AND RV STORAGE. AND AGAIN, WE CHANGE THE LAND USE FOR THE 9.8 ACRES BUT LEFT THE OTHER AS THE RURAL COMMERCIAL. AND UNDER RURAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL. UNDER THE COMMERCIAL YOU DO HAVE HIGHER TYPES USES, BUT AGAIN THOSE ARE CONTROLLED BY THE PUD.

SO THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMP PLAN. AND THE MODIFICATION PROVIDES THE DEFINITION OF THE USES AND THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE SO ANY CHANGES TO THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD.

WE DO FEEL THAT THIS MODIFICATION IN THIS NODE IS VERY COMPATIBLE AND ADDS TO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE AREA. AS YOU ALL KNOW, EVEN DOWN TOWARDS THE AREA OF MURABELLA, IT'S KIND OF GOING CRAZY.

AND THE USES ARE SIMILAR IN NATURE.

IT WILL BE SOMETHING USED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. WE CONDUCTED TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. ONE WE DID BEFORE THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY JUST TO GET OUT WITH EVERYONE ATTENDING.

THAT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

AND THEN WE JUST RECENTLY DID A SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING AND HAD NO INPUT TO THAT ONE. SO WE ARE REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO ANY OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE? SEEING NONE, DO ANY OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MY SCREEN NOT WORKING BUT I ASSUME YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, DR. HILSENBECK.

>> I DO. YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE 50-FOOT HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. I THOUGHT THE IT SAID IN

APPLICATION THAT IS IT WAS . >> ACTUALLY WE'VE SET IT BACK ENOUGH TO BE 50 FEET HIGH. I USED THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE CATEGORY SETBACK THAT IT TAKES YOU FROM THE 40 FEET, AND IF YOU

SET BACK -- >> FIVE FEET, YOU GET ANOTHER 5 FEET HIGHER. I READ THAT IN THERE.

THIS WAS WELL PRESENTED. SO IT IS GOING TO BE 50 FEET

HIGH, NOT 55? >> YES.

>> ARE THERE ANY 50-FOOT TALL BUILDING ANYWHERE NEAR HERE?

>> NOT -- NOTE RIGHT IN THAT AREA, BUT YOU WILL SEE THEM IN OTHER AREAS, DEFINITELY GOLF VILLAGE AREA.

>> THERE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THERE'S MANY ARE ALLOWED IN SILVERLEAF AS WELL BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THOSE ARE GOING TO BE.

P THAT WAS ACTUALLY A QUESTION THAT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS

ASKED. >> ALL RIGHTY.

THANK YOU. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE'RE -- DO WE HAVE

ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? >> WE DO NOT.

>> WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2021-08 BRIDLE RIDGE PUD BASED UPON SIX

FINDINGS OF FACT. >> GOT A MOTION.

THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. MILLER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO OOD, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE MANY TIMES BEFORE, I JUSES REALLY HATE TO SEE PRODUCTIVE FARM AND/OR PASTURE LAND PAVED OVER, BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY RIGHT THERE IN AN AREA THAT IS DEVELOPING VERY RAPIDLY AND IT'S NOT

[1. SUPMAJ 2021-12 Pioneer School. Request for a Special Use Permit per Section 2.03.17 of the Land Development Code to allow for a Private School with Conventional Academic Curriculum within Open Rural (OR) zoning]

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES SO WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE REGULAR ORDER OF THE AGENDA AND WE'RE UP TO ITEM NUMBER 1. MS. ACEVEDO.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MS. ACEVEDO. >> THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, SIR.

MY NAME IS MAX GARCIA WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP.

I WILL BE HERE IN PLACE OF MS. ACEVEDO TODAY.

MATTHEW DESIGN GROUP SAT 7 WALDO STREET.

>> MAKE SURE TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

MAYBE PULL IT UP A LITTLE BIT. >> YES, SIR.

SO AS I MENTIONED WE ARE REPRESENTING THE PIONEER SCHOOL TODAY. THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, A MINOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PIONEER SCHOOL TO BE ALLOWED ON

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WE ARE ON ROLLING HILLS DRIVE JUST SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 207.

WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET THERE FROM THE CHELSEA WOODS SUBDIVISION. JUST TO CLARIFY, WE ARE NOT ON TWO PARCELS. WE ARE ON THE PARCEL THAT JUST HAS THE STAR ON IT. HERE'S THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

WE ARE LOCATED IN THE RESIDENTIAL C FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. AND THEN HERE IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THAT WE ARE IN THE OR ZONING DESIGNATION.

THIS IS ANOTHER AERIAL TO SHOW THAT THIS IS A VACANT PIECE OF LAND THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED OR CLEARED.

AS I MISSINGED BEFORE WE ARE ONLY DEALING WITH THE PARCEL TO NORTH HERE OF THE HIGHLIGHTED, BOTH HIGHLIGHTED PORTIONS.

FIVE ACRES. SO THE PIONEER SCHOOL TO GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY IT'S A PRIVATE NON-PROPERTY MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH CONVENTIONAL SCHOOL CURRICULUM IN MORNING WITH A MIX OF AND VARIETY OF DYNAMIC LEARNING EXPERIENCES FOCUSED ON LIFE SKILLS, CITIZENSHIP, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, OUTDOOR, AGRICULTURAL, TECHNOLOGY, SOMETHING MORE PREPARED THAN FOR MORE ALTERNATIVE CAREER PATHS. THIS SITE ITSELF, WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT, WILL CONSISTENT OF TWO MAIN CLASSROOM STRUCTURES WITH A COMMUNITY AREA IN BETWEEN THEM.

HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE DURING 7:30 A.M. TO 4:00 P.M.

MON THROUGH FRIDAY. THIS IS A SMALL OPERATION STARTING WITH APPROXIMATELY 33 STUDENTS WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND GREATER EXPECTING TO ACHIEVE A MAXIMUM OF 75 STUDENTS. THIS SCHOOL WOULD HAVE FIVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND FIVE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.

AS FAR AS THE LDC SECTION 2 SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENTS FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITH CONVENTIONAL CURRICULUM, THEY ARE ALLOWED AS A SPECIAL USE IN THE OR ZONING DESIGNATION, AS A SPECIAL USE.

THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE VENDOR, WHICH THIS SITE IS NOT, AND THIS SITE HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO A COLLECTOR ROADWAY WHICH IS ROLLING HILLS DRIVE.

SO HERE IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWING HOW THE BUILDINGS ARE ORIENTED ON TOP. THE TWO MAIN CLASSROOM STRUCTURES ARE SHAMED INTO A V SHAPE AS SHOWN BY THE RED TBLOKS. THE LARGE RED VERY MANY OF IS A PAVILION AND IF SMALLER RECTANGULAR SPACE TO THE SOUTH IS THREE STORAGE BUILDINGS THAT THEY WOULD EXPECT TO NEED.

THIS PROPERTY HAS WETLANDS TO THE WEST, NO ONE OF WHICH ARE BEING IMPACTED. WE'LL HAVE THE AVERAGE 25-FOOT UPLAND BUFFER IN ADDITION TO REQUIRED SET BACK.

WE'LL HAVE COMPLETE CAWRT OR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND IT IS COMPLIANT WITH OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

AS FAR AS TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IS CONCERNED, IT IS OOH IT IS A ONE-WAY STREET COMING OFF OF ROWLING HILLS.

IT HAS THE PARKING SPACES ALONG AND THEN EXITS OUTING TO ROLLING HILLS DRIVE. WE DO HAVE A LARGE T TURNAROUND TO COMPLY WITH THE FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS TO GET CLOSE TO THAT BUILDINGS IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.

AS FAR AS SCREENING IS CONCERNED, IN ADDITION TO THOSE WETLANDS TO THE WEST, TO THE SOUTH AND NORTH, WE HAVE A 20-FOOT BUFFER WITH B SCREENING TO OTHER RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES. ADDITIONALLY TO THE NORTH -- THE NEXT SLIDE, YES. ADDITIONALLY TO THE NORTH THERE IS A UTILITY EASEMENT OF ABOUT 150 FEET IN WIDTH.

BETWEEN -- ON THE WEST SIDE IN ADDITION TO THAT WETLAND THERE IS ANOTHER ABOUT 300 FEET BETWEEN THEM AND THE DEERFIELD SUBDIVISION AS WELL. PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH DOES HAVE THAT BUFFER YOU MENTIONED BUT IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A MODEST DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF SCALE AND INTENSITY. IT IS A SMALL SCHOOL OPERATION OF. BUT IN SUMMARY, WE ARE MEETING ALL THE CODES OF THE LDC. WE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND WE ARE REQUESTING A FL PROOF THIS MINOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS, ADDITIONALLY I DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PIONEER SCHOOL SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCHOOL ITSELF. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE BY THE ANGST MEMBERS? ANY -- AGENCY MEMBERS? ANY QUESTIONS BY THE AGENCY MEMBERS?

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? >> THERE ARE NO ONE.

>> NO SPEAKER CARDS. SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY

FOR A MOTION MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE

[2. ZVAR 2021-19 4390 Rues Landing Road Porch. Request for a Zoning Variance to Table 6.01 of the Land Development Code to allow a seventeen (17') foot Front Yard setback in lieu if the twenty-five (25') foot requirement in Open Rural (OR) zoning to allow for a front porch previously installed without permits, specifically located at 4390 Rues Landing Road.]

REPORTER. >> MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. PETER. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

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AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2, SUSAN BUCKLEY.

>> HI THERE. I'M SUSAN BUCKLEY AND I CAN'T THANK MARIE ENOUGH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE I AM DEFINITELY NOT TECH SAVVY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE VARIANCE FOR 4390 4390 RUES G ROAD.

IT'S A PORCH. WE ARE REQUESTING A ZONING VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE FRONT PORCH TO BE CODED FROM 17-FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK IN LIEU OF A 25-FOOT SETBACK.

THIS IS THE LOCATION. IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT WHERE THE FIRST -- RIGHT BY ACE WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSING.

IT'S RIGHT ON 16. AND IT'S RESIDENTIAL A ZONED, OPEN RURAL. AND THERE'S AN AERIAL PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S 5 ACRES.

AND RIGHT THERE IS THE SITE MAP. THERE IS WHERE THE PORCH WOULD BE. AND THERE'S THE ROAD.

RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE STREET, SO THERE'S NO BLOCKING A VIEW OF ANYTHING.

THE PORCH IS PRETTY MUCH ALMOST BUILT, NOT QUITE.

FINISHED. AND THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE BY THE AGENCY MEMBERS? OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS?

DR. HILSENBECK. >> YEAH.

I JUST WONDER, I KNOW THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US BECAUSE OF A PRIDE COMPLAINT, BUT LET'S SAY -- AND Y'ALL HAD HIRED AN UNLICENSED CONTRACTOR TO START BUILDING THIS.

SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT WE DO APPROVE THE ZONING VARIANCE.

YOU DO HAVE A LICENSED CONTRACTOR NOW LINED UP.

>> YES, SIR. HE'S ACTUALLY WORKING WITH ANOTHER CONTRACTOR, WEATHER PERMITTING.

>> SO IS THE WORK THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE I LOIBLG IT WAS NEARLY COMPLETED IN THE PHOTOS, WHEN A BUILDING INSPECTOR GOES OUT THERE, MAYBE THEY ALREADY HAVE ORE MAYBE THIS IS A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY STAFF --

>> ACTUALLY I WAS GOING TO GO TO SEE DON, DON DANIELS AFTER THIS TO SEE IF HE WOULD ASSIST ME WITH TRYING TO MAKE SURE

EVERYTHING'S INSPECTED. >> OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S BEEN BUILT SO FAR IS UP

TO CODE. >> YES, SIR.

>> IN TERMS OF WIND LOADING AND ALL THAT.

>> YES, SIR. >> THEN I'M JUST CURIOUS, THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I LIKE LOOKING A AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS AND INTERPRETING THEM AND I'VE DONE THAT FOR YEARS.

WHAT HAVE Y'ALL DONE IN BACKYARD? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME MATERIAL THAT MAY HAVE FLOWED FROM THE FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY TOWARD THE BACK OR THERE'S BEEN PUSHED UP INTO PILES. DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE

AERIAL. >> OH, WHAT IS DIRT.

>> I JUST WONDERED WHAT THAT WAS.

>> YEAH, WE HAD DIRT COME IN AND FILL IN THE LOW SPOTS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME WATER WHEN IT WAS RAINING REALLY, REALLY BAD, AND IT WAS LIKE A SOUP I MESS BACK THERE, SO WE JUST KIND OF, WE HAVE TWO PONDS ON THE PROPERTY, SO WE KIND OF FILLED UP THE HIGH SPOTS SO THAT IT WOULD FLOW INTO THE PONDS.

>> THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW OUT OF MY OWN PERSONAL EDIFICATION. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> ? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANY SPUBL SPEAKER CARDS? WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FORE A MOTION.

[3. ZVAR 2021-23 Kirkmeyer Pool. Request for a Zoning Variance to Land Development Code, Table 6.01 and Section 2.02.04.A.8.b and 6.01.03.G.1, to allow for construction of a residential pool at 2' from the existing seawall in lieu of 10' required, specifically located at 241 Rivershore Lane.]

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING SARAH VAN 2021-19 SUBJECTED TO SEVEN CONDITIONS AND FIVE

FINDINGS OF FACT. >> SECOND.

>> GOT A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS, A SECOND BY DR. HILSENBECK.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3 ON THE AGENDA, A REQUEST FOR A ZONING VARIANCE.

IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMOWNCATION TO BE E DECLARED? SEEING NONE, WE'LL HEAR FROM MR.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS CLAYTON BUSS I'M REPRESENTING 241 RIVER RIVERE LANE, LOOKING TO GET A VARIANCE TO BUT THE POOL 2 FEET BACK FROM THE SEAWALL INSTEAD OF THE 10-FOOT SETBACK THAT'S IN PLACE. THERE'S THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE

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THERE. >> OKAY.

NO EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE. WHERE IS THIS?

>> RIGHT OVER THE VILANO BRIDGE RIGHT ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.

>> I COULDN'T TELL FROM THE MATERIALS WHERE IT WAS.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

DR. HILSENBECK. >> I WOULD HAVE DRIVEN BY THE PROPERTY, BUT YESTERDAY ACTUALLY, BUT IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE I TRIED TO DRIVE BY IT BEFORE WHEN YOU HAD THE SUMMER KITCHEN BEFORE US.

>> YES, SIR. >> BUT YOU COULDN'T GET IN, SO ANYWAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A POOL 2 FEET FROM THE SEAWALL, GOOD LUCK.

I'LL VOTE FOR IT. [LAUGHTER]

>> DO WE HAVE IN YOU PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING

[4. MINMOD 2021-11 9166 August Circle Pool Rattlesnake Island PUD. Request for a Minor Modification to the Rattlesnake Island PUD (Ordinance 1985-27) to allow a Rear Yard setback of 1 foot in lieu of the 10-foot requirement, to accommodate placement of a swimming pool, specifically located at 9166 August Circle.]

AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT. >> MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. PETER. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

AND THAT MOTION IS APPROVED, MR. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 IS THERE ANY ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO IDENTIFY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, RATTLESNAKE ISLAND? THAT WAS QUITE A MARKETING NAME, WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.

AGAIN, AND THANK YOU TOTDZ INTERVIEWER STAFF BECAUSE WE JUST KIND OF PUT THIS -- I SEE OTHER FOLKS HAVE A SLIDE.

HERE'S THE POOL PLAN AND A LAYOUT OF THE BACKYARD AS WE ARE REQUESTING A COUPLE THINGS WE CAN SEE.

THIS LINE IT RADIO HERE, WHICH MAY BE CONFUSING TO SOME FOLKS, IS ACTUALLY THE FENCE LINE THAT SITS ON OUR PROPERTY.

RIGHT BACK HERE IS THE ROAD THAT IS INTO THE COUNTY-OWNED PARK THAT GOES TO THE NATIONAL PARK IN THE BACK.

THE UN-- UNKNOWN TO US WHEN WE PURCHASED THE LAND SINCE WE WERE NOT HERE AT THE TIME, THIS ACTUALLY IS THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THIS SPACE HERE IS H OEMA PROPERTY.

WE WERE GIVEN PERMISSION BY THE HOA TO PUT A POOL THAT WILL BE ONE -- THIS EDGE OF THE POOL WILL BE 1 FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE WAY THE LAND IS, THIS REALLY IS THE ONLY PLACE TO BE ABLE TO PUT A POOL AND MAINTAIN THE SIDE VARIANCE OF 1, 5-FOOT FROM THE PORCH LINE.

THE VERY CONVOLUTED SURVEY HERE, AGAIN, -- SOMEHOW I'M MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. SORRY.

>> GO BACK TO THAT OTHER ONE. >> WE'LL GET TO THAT ONE.

I THINK THAT'S THE BEST ONE OUT. THIS AGAIN IS JUST KIND OF THE SURVEY WHERE IT SHOWS AGAIN PROPERTY LINE, FENCE LINE, WHERE THE POOL WOULD BE TUCKED IN. AERIAL VIEW MAP, THIS IS THE FENCE I WAS REFERRING TO. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE BACK HERE WHERE THE FENCE LINE IS. THIS IS THE COUNTY ROAD, NEIGHBORS' POOLS. AND IF YOU FOLLOW THIS LINE HERE YOU SEE THAT T COME THROUGH.

I HAVE A BETTER VISION OF THAT. THE BACKYARD JUST CHIEFNED SHOWS WHERE THE POOL WILL BE SITTING RIGHT HERE IN THE BACKYARD.

THIS IS IF YOU WERE ON THE SIDE, THE POOL WILL BE SITTING IN THIS AREA OVER HERE. THIS IS WHERE THE EDGE OF THE POOL WOULD BE KIND OF GIVING A VIEW OF HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF AND MAINTAIN.

WE'LL STILL BE THERE. AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. YOU CAN SEE OTHER POOLS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN GRANTED THE PERMISSION TO PUT THEIR POOLS WUNTSZ THE SAME AREA, SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT IS YOU HAVE OUTSIDE OF THE NORMS. JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF OTHER HOMES THAT HAVE THE POOLS. AND EVEN ON THE INSIDES OF THE STREET AND AUGUST CIRCLE THERE. AND THIS IS A THANK YOU.

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US NAVIGATE THIS. >> IS THAT IT, MR. DOMINIAK?

>> YES. >> I'M VERY JEALOUS BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I HAVE PINING FOR A GRANDDAUGHTER, AND I SEE THAT YOU HAVE A VERY CUTE GRANDDAUGHTER THERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYWAY, OKAY.

DO -- DR. MCCORMICK, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE EX PARTE.

>> OKAY. >> I HAD -- [INAUDIBLE] SO WE DID DISCUSS THE SWIMMING POOL. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, AND I'VE LIVED IN SUMMER ISLAND, I HAVE A SWIMMING POOL, TOO, SO ANYWAY, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT TWHANT WANT TO SPEAK, IN FAVOR OF THIS.

>> WE'RE NO READY FOR A MOTION YET, DR. MCCORMICK.

DID I ASK FOR EX PARTE BEFORE, I THINK, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> SO NOW DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE IN PUBLIC SPEAKERS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> NOW YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION,

DR. MCCORMICK. >> ALL RIGHT.

MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE MINIMUM MODIFICATION 2021-11 SUBJECT TO

[5. MINMOD 2021-14 Winn Dixie Liquor Store Shores Commercial Planned Unit Development. Request for a Minor Modification to the Shores Commercial PUD (Ordinance 2005-69) to allow for beer, wine, and liquor package sales for off-premises consumption within 1,000 feet of an established school, located at 165 Blackford Way, Suite C.]

THE STAFF REPORT. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THIS AGREEABLE GROUP WILL VOTE. AT LEAST AGREEABLE TODAY.

THAT PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5, IS THERE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE ON ITEM NUMBER 5? SEEING NONE, WE WILL HEAR FROM MR. GIMMIES. GIM GILLIS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS MICKEY GRIND STAFF I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF SCHUTS AND BOWEN.

BY PARTNER MR. GILLIS WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE AND I'M HERE IN HIS PLACE FOR THIS PRESENTATION. SO THANK YOU.

>> CAN YOU GIVE YOURS YUSH ADDRESS.

>> MY GREASE IS 300 SOUTH ORANGE AVENUE, SUITE 1600, ORANGE

AVENUE, ORLANDO, FLORIDA 32801. >> THANK YOU ABOUT MR. GILL CYST IN OUR JACKSONVILLE OFFICE ALONG WITH OUR PARTNER JORDAN CASTROVERD WHO IS HERE WITH US TODAY, AND ALSO OUR STORE MANAGER MR. BRANDON MYERS IS WITH US SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE WINN-DIXIE STORE.

APPRECIATE YOU LOWTION TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION TODAY.

WE APPRECIATE THE HELP WE RECEIVED FROM STAFF ALONG THE WAY. WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE SHORES COMMERCIAL PUD.

HERE'S OUR AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION.

THIS IS LOCATED IN SHORES VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER WHICH IS WEST OF US-1 AND NORTH OF SHORES BOULEVARD THE ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE ZONING IS PUD. THE LAND USE IS MIXED USE.

THE SUMMARY OF OUR APPLICATION, WHICH THERE WILL BE MORE SLIDES ON IN JUST A MINUTE, IS A REQUEST FOR MINOR MODIFICATION TO SHORES PUD, NUMBER 2569 TO ALLOW FOR LIQUOR PACKAGE STORE, SALES FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF AN ESTABLISHED SCHOOL. THE PROPOSED WINN-DIXIE LIQUOR STORE WILL BE ADJACENT TO THE BRAND NEW WINN-DIXIE GROCERY STORE. UNDER SECTION 2.0S 3.

2002 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, LIQUOR STORES ARE NOTE PERMITTED WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF AN ESTABLISHED SCHOOL.

THE PROPOSED WINN-DIXIE STORE IS LOCATED WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF ISLAND PREP PRESCHOOL WHICH IS AWARE OF THIS APPLICATION AND INCLUDED IN YOUR FILE IS A LETTER OF CONSENT WHERE THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THE LOCATION AND CONSENT TO THE PACKAGE STORE BEING NEXT TO THE WIN WINN-DI. A VARIANCE MAY BE GRANTED AS A WAIVER THE TO PUD THROUGH THE MINOR MODIFICATION PROCESS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY.

NEXT UP YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE STORE IS IN RELATION TO WINN-DIXIE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, TOO, THAT THERE'S NO INTERIOR ENTRANCE OR CONNECTION FROM THE BIN WIN DIEKSZ DIRECTLY INTO THE PACKAGE DIDN'T -- WINN-DIXIE

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I'M A BOOMER WHEN IT COMES TO THIS STUFF.

THIS IS BETWEEN ISLAND PREP SCHOOL AND THE PROPOSED WINN-DIXIE LIQUOR STORE. THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS WE MADE, NONE OF WHICH FULFILL THE 1,000-FOOT REQUIREMENT. 112 FEET MEASURED FROM PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDING. THE PROPOSED WIN DIEKSZ LIQUOR STORE TO THE SCHOOL BUILDING WITHOUT REGARD TO ROUTE OF TRAVEL. 365 FEET MEASURED FROM BUILDING TO BILINGSD WITHOUT REGARD TO FRAFL AND IT'S 690 FEET DOOR TO DOOR ALONG THE CLOSEST ROUTE OF TRAVEL.

ISSUES EXERNG THE SIZE AND THE SHAPE OF THE PUD, I THOUGHTIT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO SHARE THE SHORES COMMERCIAL PUD WAS ENACTED INTO ORDINANCE IN 2005. THE PUD ORDNANCE EXPRESSLY PERMITS ALCOHOL SALES SUBJECT TOSK YOUR CODE AND PROVISION OF 3.0.03. ISLAND PREP SCHOOL OPENED AT 150 BLACKFORDS WAY IN 2018. AS A RESULT, THERE ARE NO PARCELS WITHIN THIS PUD THAT WOULD MEET THE 1,000-FOOT REQUIREMENT DESCRIBED IN SECTIOD DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE THINK THAT THIS IS A NARROW WAIVER OF THIS DISTANCE REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD PRESERVE THE ORIGINAL SPIRIT OF THE TENTATIVE PUD ORDINANCE WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE SALE OF LIQUOR FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION. NEXT WERE REGARD WITH REGARO SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THE ISLAND PREP PRESCHOOL SAFETY MEASURES, IEND PREP PRESCHOOL PRIORITIZES THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF ITS STUDENTS BY THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ONE, UPHOLDING AND SURPASSING THE TEACHER-TO-STUDENT RATIO REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE CHILDREN ARE UNDER CONSTANT SUPERVISION.

THE EMPLOYEE KEYLESS I. ENTRANCE SYSTEM IN WHICH EACH FAMILY HAS A SPECIFIC CODE TO ENTER THE PRESCHOOL, CONDUCTING CLASS COUNTS THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND MAINTAIN PRIVACY WITH THE VINYL FENCE ROUNDING THE OUTDOOR PLAY AREA.

YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE IN THAT PHOTO.

ISLAND PREP HAS PREPARED -- HAS BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE APPLICATION AND HAS SUBMITTED THE CONSENT LETTER AS YOU SEE THERE. IN CONCLUSION, THIS MINOR MODIFICATION IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC GOOD.

ISLAND PREP PRESCHOOL WHICH IS THE ONLY AFFECTED SCHOOL, HAS CONSENTED TO THE PROPOSED WINN-DIXIE LIQUOR STORE.

THE PROPERTIES ARE SEPARATED BY A LARGE PARKING LOT MEASURING ROUGHLY 175 FEET. ISLAND PREP EMPLOYS VARIOUS SAFETY MEASURES TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF ITS STUDENTS. THE PROPOSED WINN-DIXIE STORE WILL SELL ALCOHOL FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION ONLY.

THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE LIQUOR STORE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER USE.

PROPOSED WINN-DIXIE LIQUOR STORE WILL BE ADJACENT TO A WINN-DIXIE GROCERY STORE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.

THERE ARE NO OTHER ESTABLISHED SCHOOLS OR CHURCHES WITHIN 1,00D WINN-DIXIE LIQUOR STORE. THIS MINOR MARYLAND MODIFICATION IS NOT OTHERWISE INCONSISTENT WITH WITH THE PUD.

ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ARE EXPRESSLY PERMITTED BUY THE PUD ORDINANCE. THIS MINOR MODIFICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE POLICY PLAN AND UNDERLYING MIXED USE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE PARCEL. AND WITH THAT SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, MYSELF, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER FOLKS HERE WITH US THAT CAN

HELP. >> ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY AGENCY MEMBERS?

MR. MILLER. >> YES.

THROUGH THE CHAIR TO THE APPLICANT, IS THE LIQUOR STORE GOING TO BE OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER AS WINN-DIXIE?

>> YES, SIR, SOUTHEAST GROCERS. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS?

>> THERE ARE NONE. >> BACK IN AGENCY FOR A MOTION, PLEASE. DR. MCCORMICK.

>> I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. >> OKAY.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE MINIMUM MODIFICATION SUBJECT -- 2021-14 SUBJECT TO EIGHT CONDITIONS AND SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED

IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> MOTION TOYE BY DR. MCCORMICK.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?

DR. HILSENBECK. >> I JUST WANT TO NOTE I HAVE DRIVEN BY THIS LOCATION PROBABLY 75 TIMES OR MORE BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. THAT'S WHY THERE WAS NO EX PARTE. BUT THIS CENTER, SHOPPING CENTER

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST THE MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

[Items 6 & 7]

THAT MOTION PASSES, SIR. >> THANK YOU ALL.

>> BY THE WAY, THIS IS FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN TO THIS FACILITY.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR LIKE 40 YEARS.

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL. ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.

AND -- >> COME ANY TIME.

[INAUDIBLE] >> VERY IMPRESSIVE.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEMS 6 AND 7. I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR

THESE TOGETHER. >> MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST NOTE SOMETHING, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SECTION IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR NUMBER 7 COMPLUS THE INCORRECT STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE PUD SIDE OF THIS. YOU THE INADVERTENTLY REPEATS THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THE COMP PLAN.

THE PUD, AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THOUGH REZONING COULD BE DENIED BASED ON A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE, THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE COMP PLAN STANDARD, WHICH IS A FAIRLY DISABLABLE STANDARD. I THINK -- DAIBLABLE STANDARD.

I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT BUT I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT IN CASE YOU DIDN'T, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW. I GUESS I'LL ALSO NOTE THE REVERSE WHEN WE GET TO NUMBER 8 WE ALSO INCLUDED THE PUD STANDARD THE ON COMP PLAN FOR THERE, BUT ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ON ITEM 7? NOT ON ITEM 6.

SEEING NONE, WE'RE READY FOR A PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS.

MATT LAHTI 2215 A1A SOUTH WITH GULFSTREAM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WHO IS JCHS LLC. THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY OUT IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

THE OLD OUTBACK CRAB SHACK IS RIGHT HERE, PROBABLY THE MOST MONUMENTAL LANDMARK IN THE REGION.

THE CIVIL RIGHT HAS BEEN OWNED IN THIS FAMILY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, SO IT'S NOT A CONTRACT FOR PURCHASE OR -- IT'S A FAMILY-BASED DEVELOPMENT, AND THESE GUYS ARE LOOKING TO PUT A LOW IMPACT COMMERCIAL USE FORE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THEY HAVE HAD FOR A LONG TIME. THE EXISTING LAND USE IS RURAL/SILVICULTURE. TO OUR EAST WE HAVE A DRIVMENT DRIVMENT AND TO OUR WEST WE HAVE RURAL COMMERCIAL THERE.

WE ARE PROPOSING A FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE FOR 9.9 ACRES FROM RURAL/SILVICULTURE TO RURAL COMMERCIAL.

TO SUPPORTED A PROPOSED BOAT AND RV STORAGE, WHICH IS THE COMPANION PUD APPLICATION. A ROUGH CONCEPTUAL PLAN HERE, EXISTING MOBILE HOME AND SOME STRUCTURES IN THIS PORTION OF THE SITE. PROPOSED DRIVEWAY CONNECTION HERE. AND A SMALL WETLAND IMPACT JUST TO ACCESS THIS ISOLATED POCKET, NOT RELATED TO THE COMP PLAN, BUT JUST GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

>> SIR, YOU NEED TO SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND SPEAK A

LITTLE LOUDER. >> MY APOLOGIES.

AGAIN THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN HERE, THAT'S PART OF THE COMPANION MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THAT'S MY PRESENTATION ON LAND USE CHANGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

>> DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE SECOND PART.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO THE COMPANION APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A REZONING TO A PUD TO ALLOW A BOAT AND RV STORAGE ON THIS PROPERTY. THE APPLICATION ASSIGNOR

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GRAVEL BOAT AND RV STORAGE RELATIVELY LOW IMPACT, SOME FENCING, AND SOME SMALL BULK HEADS THERE TO PREVENT ADDITIONAL WETLAND IMPACTS. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE. >> OKAY.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT ON ITEM 6 AND 7?

DR. HILSENBECK. >> YOU JUST MENTIONED, AND I HAD NOT READ THIS SPECIFICALLY IN THE ITEM -- IT WAS A LONG ITEM -- BUT YOU JUST MENTION AID BULKHEAD TO PREVENT OTHER WETLAND IMPACTS. WHAT'S THE NATURE THAT.

>> RETAINING WALL BULKHEAD MOST LIKELY BUILT OUT OF TIMBER.

YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 18 INCHES TO 2 FEET IN HEIGHT.

>> SO IT'S GOING TO BE ALONG THE FLOODPLAIN SIX MILE CREEK?

>> MOSTLY ALONG THIS EDGE RIGHT HERE.

>> THAT EDGE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. >> SIX MILE CREEK IS WAY DOWN HERE, SO THIS WHOLE PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ABOUT 18 ACRES.

SO JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE, SIX MILE CREEK IS HERE, AND WE'RE REALLY WORKING EVEN JUST WITHIN THIS PORTION PORTION HERE OF THAT 9.9 ACRES. THIS IS STILL ALL WETLANDS TO

REMAIN AS PART OF THAT PARCEL. >> OKAY.

I KNOW RIGHT WHERE THE CREEK IS AND THE FLOODPLAIN AND AND SO FORTH. I HAVE DRIVEN BY THIS MANY TIMES BUT NOT LATELY. I DIDN'T DRIVE BY THE FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU FELT I KNEW IT.

BUT YOU CITE, FOR EXAMPLE, NINE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALONG WILLIAM BARTRAM SCENIC AND HISTORIC HIGHWAY THAT HAVE COMMERCIAL RURAL ZONING AND ARE BUSINESSES ALONG THERE.

HOW MANY OF THOSE OTHER THAN THE OUTBACK CRAB SHACK, WHICH IS BEING REBUILT AFTER IT GOT HAMMERED IN MATTHEW, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE RIGHT ADJACENT TO OR INCLUDE THE PLUD FLOODPLAIN OF

SIX MILE CREEK? >> HONESTLY I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T OF ANY OF THEM OTHER THAN THE OUTBACK CRAB SHACK. THAT.

>> THAT OUTBACK CRAB SHACK WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN '84 AND THAT WAS BEFORE THERE WAS ANY WETLAND, REAL WETLAND LAWS IN THE STATE, NO NET LOSS AND MITIGATION REQUIRED AND SO FORTH, SO I DOUBT IT COULD BE BUILT TODAY.

AND THEN IN MAPS, YOU DIDN'T SHOW THEM IN YOUR PRESENTATION BUT THEY'RE IN THE APPLICATION, YOU HAVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THERE AS PART OF THAT OUTBACK CRAB SHACK, THAT THAT IS COMMERCIAL RURAL ZONING. THAT'S BASICALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU OR THE ROAD FROM YOU.

THAT WOULD -- >> THE FUTURE LAND USE?

>> YEAH. IT SHOWS IT IN RED.

I DIDN'T SEE IT IN YOUR -- >> YEAH, WE JUST I HAD MATE IN

BLUE HERE JUST TO STAND OUT >> ALL THAT IS ZONED RURAL COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE ROAD FROM YOU, A SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT COULD BE BUILT TODAY, ANY OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S RITE IN THE FLOODPLAIN OF SIX MILE CREEK, AND SO IT MAY ACTUALLY BE ZONED THAT BUT I DOUBT SERIOUSLY IT COULD BE BUILT.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE STAYING OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND ALL THAT, BUT I'VE OWNED BOATS BEFORE -- THANK GOD I DON'T AT THIS TIME -- BUT WHEN PEOPLE BRING THEM BACK FROM BEING OUT IN THE OCEAN OR OUT IN THE ST. JOHNS RIVER THEY HOSE THEM DOWN.

THERE'S A LOT OF OIL, GREASE, GASOLINE SOASHED WITH BOATS AND RVS, I DON'T KNOW, I'VE NEVER HAD ONE, BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THAT WASHING DOWN INTO THE FLOODPLAIN OF SIX MILE CREEK, GETTING INTO THE CREEK, CONTAMINATING THE ST.

JOHNS RIVER WHICH IS REALLY A STONE'S THROW AWAY FROM HERE.

THOSE ARE SOME CONCERNS I HAVE. AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO LIKE AND RESPECT YOUR WORK, AND YOU'RE ALWAYS THOROUGH AND PROFESSIONAL, AND YOU'VE APPEARED BEFORE US MAYBE SIX TIMES AND YOU DO A REAL GOOD JOB.

THE APPLICATION WAS REAL THOROUGH AND COMPLETE.

BUT TO ME I JUST THINK THIS IS IN THE WRONG PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING OF THIS. NUMBER ONE, IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE WILLIAM BARTRAM SCENIC AND HISTORIC HIGHWAY.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A PROVISION, NO COMMERCIAL RURAL WITHIN 600 FEET OR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE WITHIN 600 FEET, BUT THERE'S A PROVISION IF IT'S -- YOU CAN HAVE IT UNDER VARIOUS ASPECTS OF

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SO IT REALLY, IN MY MIND, DOESN'T MEET THE FULL REQUIREMENT -- I KNOW THERE'S THAT 500, IF THE PROPERTY IS LESS THAN 500 FEET IN DEPTH, THEN YOU CAN DO LESS, BUT TO ME IT'S AN UNUSUALLY SHAPED PROPERTY, AND I'M SORRY IT'S NOT 500 FEET OR MORE IN DEPTH RIGHT UP THERE ON THE NORTHERN END, BUT I JUST -- I CAN'T PERSONALLY VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S RIGHT THERE POTENTIALLY IN AND IMPACTING THE FLOODPLAIN OF SIX MILE CREEK BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY A MAJOR TRIBUTARY OF THE ST.

JOHNS. SEE IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

>> I HAVE ONE. >> MATT, YOU SAID THERE WAS AN EXISTING MOBILE HOME ON THE PROPERTY?

>> YEAH. >> IS IT GOING TO STAY?

>> NO, SIR. ANY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DR. HILSENBECK.

>> THANK YOU. THAT DID REMIND ME.

THAT MOBILE HOME DOES HAVE A SEPTIC TANK, AND THE SEPTIC TANK IS GOING TO STAY, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> NO, SIR. WE'LL REMOVE THAT.

>> YOU WILL REMOVE IT. >> YES.

>> I THOUGHT YOU STATED IN APPLICATION THERE WAS GOING TO

BE A SEPTIC ON-SITE. >> NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

>> I THOUGHT IT STATED THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SEPTIC ON-SITE.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUILDINGS. I GUESS IF THERE'S NO OTHER BOARD QUESTIONS, MAYBE I CAN JUST PROVIDE MR. HILSENBECK SOME

RESPONSES TO HIS QUESTIONS? >> SURE.

>> SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MIKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR THERE IS NO PROPOSED BUILDING. THIS ISN'T A DRY STACK STORAGE.

THIS IS BASICALLY BRING YOUR BOAT HERE ON A TRAILER, STORE IT, TRULY COMPATIBLE WITH PROBABLY THE VOLUME OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE HERE. I TWO KNOW THERE IS ANOTHER BOAT AND RV STORAGE TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THIS SITE ALONG COUNTY ROAD 13. SO I THINK JUST YOUR POLLUTANT LOADING, YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL -- THESE BOATS OR THESE ITEMS WILL BE ON TRAILERS. THIS WILL BE ON SOME SORT OF A SEMI IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, MOST LIKELY 57 STONE, SO, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE TREATED WITH THE STORM WATER SYSTEM, STORM WATER SYSTEM WILL BE PERMITTED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS.

SO THERE WILL BE A POLLUTION ABATEMENT VOLUME AND WE WILL MEET ALL OF THE ERP CRITERIA. SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL ADDRESS ANY POLLUTANT LOADING POTENTIAL QUESTIONS TO THE RIVER OR TO THE FLOODPLAIN, PROBABLY NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE VOLUME OF BOATS UP AND DOWN THE RIVER THAT HAVE ON LIFT STORAGE OR ON TRAILER STORAGE AND THEY'RE FUELING THE BOATS OVER THE WATER AND SPILLING FUEL OR SPILLING WHATEVER.

I BELIEVE A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAND FLOW TRAVEL HERE WOULD HELP TO TREAT ANY POTENTIAL POLLUTANT LOADING THAT YOU MIGHT BE CONCERNED OF. BUT AGAIN, NO STRUCTURES, NO BUILDING, NO HAUL-OUT, NO PRESSURE WASHING, NO PADS, NOTHING ASSOCIATED WITH TRAVEL LIFT WHERE THEY HAUL THE BOATS OUT, WORK ON THEM RIGHT THERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE WATERFRONT.

THERE'S KNOWING LIKE THAT HAPPENING HERE.

-- THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING HERE.

>> THANK YOU. >> BRADLEY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST FOR DR. HILSENBECK'S QUESTION ABOUT SEWER, I'M JUST REVIEWING THE APPLICATION.

IT INDICATES, AS MR. LAHTI SAID, THAT THERE'S -- BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUILDINGS COMPONENT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A SEPTIC SYSTEM IN PLACE, THAT SHOULD -- AT THE TIME WHICH BUILDINGS REQUIRING DOCUMENTS ARE PROPOSED, A CONNECTION TO CENTRAL UTILITIES WILL BE WARRANTED BUT INDICATES IF THERE EVER IS A BUILDING, THEY WROA CONNECT TO CENTRAL UTILITIES.

THERE'S ALSO A DOCUMENT AVAILABILITY LETTER FROM THE COUNTY THAT INDICATES THERE'S A FORCE MAIN WHICH WOULD BE CONNECTED TO IN THE EVENT OF THE NECESSITY FOR UTILITIES.

SO JUST TO POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.

>> MR. MILLER. >> HEY, MATTIS, IS THAT A RETENTION POND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE PROPERTY?

>> THAT'S AN EXISTING POND THAT IS OUT THERE.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AN OLD BORROW PIT FROM PROBABLY THE ORANGE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION. MOST LIKELY WE WILL USE SOME FORM OF DRY RETENTION WITHIN THE THE PULL PARKING AREA, POTENTIALLY USE THAT FOR ATTENUATION, BUT RIGHT NOW OUR INITIAL INTENT IS TO USE DRY RETENTION.

>> AND THIS IS GOING TO BE NOSILY PERVERSE JUST SURFACE BUT ANY IMPERVIOUS IS PER YOUR PERMIT GO INTO A POND.

>> YEP, YES. >> E IT'S NOTE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CREEK.% HOW OLD IS THE EXISTING TEP SICK

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TANK ON THE PROPERTY? >> IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

>> PROBABLY IT HASN'T BEEN INSPECTED FOR A WHILE IT.

>> WILL BE REMOVED AS PAFER THIS CONSTRUCTION.

>> PLACECLY IF THIS DOESN'T GET APPROVED WE'VE LOOKING AT IT OLD SEPTIC TANK THAT MAY BE FAILG SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO A CREEK.

>> YES. >> VERSUS A PERMITTED WATER DISTRICT MANAGEMENT APPROVED DRAINAGE PLAN.

>> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE IN YOU SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE HAVE NONE. >> THEN WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 6. OH ON ITEM 6.

MR. PETER. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF POMP PLAN AMENDMENT SKAUL TALE SCALE 20 TWUNT H. OFF II, BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> GOT A MOTION BY MR. PETER. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> 62ND. >> SECOND BY MR. PIERRE.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION PASSES. NO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7 FOR A MOTION, PLEASE. MR. PETER.

>> NOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2021-01 8000 COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH PUD SUBJECT TO NINE FINDINGS OF FACT TO SUPPORT THE

MOTION. >> MOTION BY MR. PETER.

[Items 8 & 9]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE OR NOT IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES.

MOVING ON TO ITEMS 8 AND 9, WHICH I BELIEVE WE WILL ALSO TAKE TOGETHER, IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO

DECLARE ON ITEM 9? >> YES, I DROVE OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND GAVE IT A THOROUGH LOOK YESTERDAY.

>> ANY OTHER EX PARTE COMMUNICATION?

HEARING NONE, MS. HAGA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERSPORT FOR THE RECORD LINDSAY HAGA WITH ENGLAND THIMS & MILLER 14775 OLD ST. AUGUSTINE ROAD AND THAT'S IN JACKSONVILLE WP WITH ME TODAY IS MR. WHITE WITH THE PARK GROUP REPRESENTING AS YOU TS APPLICANT. WIRE HEARING THESE ADVERTISEMENTS TODAY, A SMALL SCALE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND THE PLANNED REDEVELOPMENT ZONING.

TO GET US STARTED REALLY WHETHER YOU COMPLETED A SITE VISIT OR IN YOUR DAILY FRASTLES, THIS MAP IS GIVING US LOCATIONAL CONTEXT FOR SITE. HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN THAT RED AREA UP IN THAT TUCKEDIN CORNER OF NORTHEAST SECTION OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY ACCESSED ONLY THROUGH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE ON PAWBLED ROAD SOUTH, SO IF YOU'VE TRAVELED OVER TO MAYO CLINIC OR OUT TO THE BEACHES YOU'VE LIKELY SUSTAIN SAN PABLO ROAD. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS MAYO IS GETS THOSE IMPROVEMENTS MADE, AND THIS PROPERTY IS THERE ON THAT SOUTHEASTERN SIDE AS YOU AND IT OFF OF A J TURNER BUTLER.

ALSO PART OF THIS PROPERTY HERE FOR THE INTRACOAFLTD PROPERTIES IS THE PRIVATE ROADWAY OF DIXIE LANDING GIVING ACCESS TO LOTS ALONG THE INTRACOAFLTD. ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IS INTAWBL RESERVE THE MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY AND GOLF COURSE TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE. THIS GIVES US THAT REGIONAL PROXIMITY AT THE MEDICAL OFFICES THERE SURROUNDING MAYO AND THEN AS YOU GO INTO THE SOUTH SIDE LONG THE BELTWAY OF WHERE THE PLOTS ARE LOCATED. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE, I'M COMBINING THIS PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY, BETWEEN OUR SMALL SCALE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND THE REZONING.

THIS IS THE SNAPSHOT OF THE EXISTING LAND USE FOR RURAL/SILVICULTURE OF PROPERTY. THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND YOU REALLY SEE ITS PROXIMITY THERE TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND THE DECKS NATIONS AND THEIR FUTURE LAND USE MAP BEING RESIDENTIAL, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, PAFER THAT MASTER PLANNED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DUE WEST OF THE SITE WHERE WE SEE SOME MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT GIVES US THAT BASE DWELLING UNIT OF 15 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE AND THAT COMMUNITY GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

AS YOU TRAVEL ALONG J TURNER BURL AND YOU SEE WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS IN AS OUR THOALT TITE SITE, THE MARINA ASSOCIATED WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY, TOWNHOMES, INSURANCE HEAD DIVERSITY, AND AS YOU COME IN TO SEE THE GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY, SOS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. SO OUR PROPOSAL THEN IS TO CHANGE THIS LAND USE CATEGORY FROM RURAL/SILVICULTURE TO MIXED USE. IT REALLY TUCKS UP IN THE WITH ADJACENT LAND USES THERE AT THE CITY OF THE JACKSONVILLE.

YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THIS OVERLAY AND TREASON OF THE LAND USE THAT ABOUT 30% OF THE CITE IS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE BRUIN EAST CAR MUSEUM THAT'S A USE THAT'S ALLOWED BETWEEN THE RURAL/SILVICULTURE LAND USE CATEGORY AND THE CURRENT ZONING OF OPEN RURAL WOULD BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY. THE PUD AS WELL.

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SO MOVING INTO THE PROPOSED ZONING HERE I'VE COLORED IN FOR THAT YOU BLUE COLOR WHICH RECHTS FOR US HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. IT'S PROPOSED FOR THIS 19 ACRES JUST A LITTLE OVER 19 ACRES. AND IT'S COMPATIBLE AND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING USES THAT I'VE WALKED US THROUGH.

INSURANCE HEADQUARTERS HERE REPRESENTED IN CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AS THE C OEM. THIS COMMERCIAL OFFICE RED COLOR. YOU'RE SEEING PUD WHICH REPRESENTS AGAIN IF MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY FORT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND AS YOU COME DOWN INTO THE GOLF COURSE JUST OFF THE TOP OF OF THE MAP WOULD BE THE MULTI-FAMILY THAT YOU SEE THERE AT THE MARINA AND THOSE THREE-STORY TOWNHOMES JAINTSZ TO THE RESIDENTS AS YOUR MOVING FORCED MAYO CLINIC NORTH OF JTV. OUR MASTERGE PLAN AC BRINGS FORWARD THE EXISTING 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE EXISTING CAR MUSEUM THAT YOU SEE ON THESIDE SITE.

IT'S BLEEDING OUTED JUST A TADD. YOU SEE AS WE COME DOWN SAN PABLO ROAD SOUTH WHEN IS WHERE WE WOULD GAIN OUR ACCESS ALONG THE EARN WITH LINE OF THE PAVED ROAD, A GIVE ACCESS INTO THE EXISTING FACILITY, THE USE HAS A STORM WATER POND ON-SITE NOW. IT'S IF YOU WERE TO TRAVEL DOWN DIEKSZ LANDING, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN OF THIS SOME OF THE WALL STRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE IN TORE SCREENING.

AND THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE FOR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL IS CURRENTLY PLANET PINE AREA WITHIN THIS REMAINDER OF PUD.

WE COMPLY WITH ALL THE STANDARDS FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT HABITAT OR SPECIES IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE SITE AND WE WOULD PRESERVE OVER 25% OF OPEN SPACE MEETING THAT PUD STANDARD. SO JUST IN SUMMARY, THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY DEVELOPED WITH ABOUT 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF THAT CULTURAL INSTITUTIONAL USE. THAT'S THE CLASSIFICATION FOR THE CAR MUSEUM. THIS REQUEST TO ADD IN AN ADDITIONAL 25,000 SQUARE FEET TO BE USED IN NON-RESIDENTIAL, THE PUD DOES BRING FORWARD THOSE COMMERCIAL USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY THE MIXED USE DISTRICT.

ALL OF THE USES ARE CONSISTENT THE WITH PATTERN THAT WE SEE AROUND THE SURROUNDING USES THERE THROUGH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN SUPPORT PLACE TO SUPPORT THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

ALL OF THIS WOULD INCREASE OUR COMMERCIAL TAX BASE HERE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THEN BE ACCESS TRUED THROUGH THE CITY OF JACKSON VILLE. SO WE MAY IMPACT FEES HERE TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL IS EXEMPT FROM MITIGATING ANY IMPACT TO THE COUNTY ROADWAY SYSTEM BUT WE ACCESS ONLY OWN TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE ROADWAY SYSTEM.

IN SIM RI THAT'S A BLEND OF THE PROPOSED SMALL SCALE LAND USE REZONING AND. I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND MR. WHITE HERE AS WELL.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS. I'M REALLY GLAD I DID DRIVE UP THERE. I WAS VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THE SITE, THIS FAIRLY ISOLATED PART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT CAN ONLY BE ACCESSED BASICALLY THROUGH DUVAL COUNTY, SO I WANTED TO SEE THAT. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF VEGETATION. I FOUND ACTUALLY THE PLANT AND YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT WAS A BIT LACKING.

I KNOW YOU DIDN'T PERSONALLY DO IT, BUT THERE WERE SOME THINGS NOTE ON THERE AND A LOT OF THINGS ON THAT PROPERTY.

I WAS THINKING IT MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY SOME MAYOR TIME HAMMOCK ON IT. MARY TIME.

IT DOES HAVE SOME INSIP ENTIENT MARITIME HAMMOCK HELP IT'S GOING TOWARD A NATURAL SUCCESSION OF THAT.

IT WAS AN EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCE TO DRIVE UP THERE BECAUSE ALL THE USES THAT YOU CYTE, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES, THOSE ARE ALL IN DIEWFL COUNTY.

DUVAL COUNTY.

THIS IS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SO I REALLY CAN'T IN MY MIND COUNT THOSE AS USES IN OUR COUNTY THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CREDIT TOWARD, OH, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL AREA OR IT'S GOT RESIDENTIAL ALL OVER IT. IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY THIS IS A, A SURPRISINGLY RURAL PART OF THE COUNTY.

ALL THE HOMES I SAW OUT THERE WERE ON ARMING WERE ON LARGE ACREAGE LOTS, IT'S VERY RURAL, GOT THE INTRACOASTAL OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT. SO I THINK HAVING A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE SPACE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RURAL, OPEN RURAL LAND USE WITH LARGE LOTS, SCATTERED HOMES IS JUST INCOMPATIBLE. I DON'T RECALL THAT YOU HAD A

COMMUNITY MEETING. >> NO, WE'RE NOT IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR. UR ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE NORTHWEST SECTOR THAT ARE TYPICALLY THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS? YES, SIR, THAT'S THAT ELEMENT OF NORTHWEST SECTOR PLAN FOR THAT. I THINK MR. WHITE, HE IS A

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>> I SAW THEM. >> YEAH, THAT'S FOR THE NORTHWEST SECTOR WHERE WE HOST THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

>> NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PEOPLE WITHIN 300 FEET.

>> OF THE PLOT. THAT WOULD HAVE CLIPPED.

>> HOW MANY OF THOSE? >> THAT WOULD HAVE CLIPPED THE LINE OF RESIDENTIAL LOSS ALONG DIXIE LANDING DRIVE, AND THEN OVER TO AROUND AND INTO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THE BRUNO'S CAR MUSEUM THAT IS THERE, THAT IS VERY WELL HILDEN.

IT'S BEHIND A LARGE FENCE AND A LARGE GATE AND A LARGE BUFFER OF VEGETATION ALL AROUND IT. SO THAT'S NOT AN OPEN COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE TYPE USE. AS YOU SAID, YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO EVEN GET IN THIS SO IT'S PRETTY WELL LODGED UP AND LOCKED UP AND HIDDEN.

VERY PRIVATE. I'LL HAVE TO SAY, GIVEN THE FIRE SAFETY AND YOUR IOS CLASSIFICATION, THE PUBLIC PROTECTION CLASSIFICATION YOU GET A 10, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY THE LOWEST FOR FIRE SAFETY BECAUSE YOU'RE, NUMBER ONE, GREATER THAN FIVE MILES, ROAD MILES FROM A RECOGNIZED FIRE AND RESCUE STATION, AND THERE'S NO CREDIT I WILL BE CREDIBLE WATER SUPPLY THERE. 10 IS THE LOWEST SCORE YOU CAN GET, EVEN EVEN BELOW THE 10W. I THINK THAT SPEAKS AGAINST THIS GOING IN THERE IN THIS VERY RURAL PART OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN ACCESS THROUGH THE COUNTY, WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS, GATED COMMUNITIES THERE FOR THE PABLO CREEK RESERVE AND THERE WAS ANOTHER PRIVATE ONE ON DOWN PABLO ROAD SOUTH, I JUST DON'T THINK THIS FITS IN THERE, IN MY OPINION.

>> ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> WE HAVE NONE.

THEN WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 8.

PLZ FERNTION. >> MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL SCALE 21-11 SAN PABLO ROAD

BASED FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. >> GOT A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BRI MR. PIERRE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION PASSES 5-2. LEASE MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 9? MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2021-13 SAN PABLO ROAD

BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT. >> OKAY.

[Staff Reports]

AND THAT MOTION PASSES 5-2. OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY REPORTS OF STAFF?

>> YES, SIR. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON TUESDAY DID CANCEL THEIR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, AND NORMALLY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY LIKES MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CANCEL THEIR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. YOUR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY IS THE 6TH, JANUARY 6TH. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.

IT'S UP TO YOU AS AN AGENCY IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT ORCHT.

>> SO IF WE CANCELED ON THE 6TH, DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT COULD ACCELERATE AND THE BOARD HAVE WOULD MORE THINGS TO LISTEN TO ON THEIR SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY?

HOW WOULD THAT WORK OUT? >> IT COULD, YES, SIR.

RIGHT UP YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THAT MEETING IN JANUARY.

A JANUARY 20TH MEETING. >> AND HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH YOUR WORKLOAD? DO YOU GET MORE TIME OFF IF WE

CANCEL ON THE 6TH? >> NO, SIR, WE WOULD GET THE NORMAL WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE. NO, SIR, WE DO NOT GET ADDITIONAL TIME OFF. IT'S TIME THAT WE WON'T TAKE IF WE CHOOSE TO. I WILL SAY IT DOES RELAX SOME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TIMES AND GETTING STAFF RECORDS REPORTS AND THING LIKE THAT DONE DURING THAT HOLIDAY TIME WHEN PEOPLE MAY HAVE VACATION TIME AND ARE OUT.

>> DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT OR CAN THE CHAIRMAN

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MAKE THAT DECISION? >> I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO

HAVE A CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD. >> OKAY.

WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK IN. >> I MOVE THAT WE CANCEL THE

JANUARY 6TH MEETING. >> CAN I ASK WHEN THE LAST -- IS DECEMBER 2ND THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR OR IS DECEMBER

SCWEANTSDZ? >>

16TH. >> DECEMBER 16TH IS YOUR LAST

MEETING I HAVE. >> DECEMBER 2ND SHOWING UP ON

MINE. >> I HAVE DECEMBER 2ND, ALSO.

[INAUDIBLE] >> HOW FAR IN ADVANCE DO WE HAVE

TO MAKE THIS DECISION? >> THERE'S NO PARTICULAR TIME I

THINK THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BY. >> WELL, WE -- STAFF NEEDS TIME TO BE ABLE TO LET MEME KNOW SO THAT WE DON'T SCHEDULE PEOPLE FOR THAT DAY IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TOAF THE MEETING.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE THE MEETING, WE WILL PROCEED WITH JUST OUR NORMAL PROCESS OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, YOUR ITEM'S READY TO GO. THIS IS THE NEXT AVAILABLE PZA

MEETING THAT YOU CAN MAKE. >> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD SUPPORT CANCELING THAT MEETING. THE WORKLOAD, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT? WHAT DO YOU PREFER, MS. BISHOP?

TERESA. >> IT'S UP TO YOU.

STAFF IS GOING TO BE HERE. STAFF WILL DO THEIR WORK AS WE ARE RUDDER TO DO. LIKE I DID SAY, THOUGH, I CAN SAY THAT IT DOES RELAX A LITTLE BIT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PRESSURE AND GETTING STAFF REPORTS DONE DURING THAT HOLIDAY TIME WHEN PEOPLE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE TIME OFF OR THEY'VE TAKEN TIME OFF. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF I CAN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEANT WHEN YOUR LAST MEETING AS IN%-ÚE DECEMBER 16TH, AND I HAVE ITEMS ON BOTH OF THOSE AGENDAS

RIGHT NOW. >> 16TH IS NOT LISTED ON

WEBSITE, EITHER. >> RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE HISTORICAL I SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE,S WHICH NOT THAT LONG, BUT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY HAD THE TWO MEETINGS IN DECEMBER AND DEAN THE FIRST MEETING OFF IN JANUARY.

>> I WOULD PREFER THAT. >> SO FAR BE IT FROM US TO BE SCROOGE AND MAKE THE STAFF NOT HAVE TIME TO GO LOOK FOR PRESENTS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO FIND THEM ANYWAY

[ Agency Reports]

SO WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE JANUARY 6TH MEETING.

>> JANUARY 6TH, I BELIEVE. >> JANUARY 6TH ME GO WE'RE

GOING TO CANCEL THAT. >> FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.

>> WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.

[LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? OKAY.

ANY AGENCY COMMENTS, REPORTS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

THESE LETTERS THAT WE

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