[1. Public Hearing * COMPAMD 2021-10 SilverLeaf (Transmittal). Transmittal Hearing for COMPAMD 2021-10 SilverLeaf DRI, a request to amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map from Rural/Silviculture (R/S) and Agricultural Intensive (A-I) to Residential A, Residential C, and Community Commercial (CC) for approximately 2,394 acres of land located in the northwest portion of St. Johns County, generally south of the planned First Coast Expressway and east of Trout Creek. The additional 2,394 acres of land is being added into the existing SilverLeaf DRI. The applicant has further proposed a Text Amendment to limit development timing and density on certain parcels.]

>> MOTION BY DEAN AND SECOND BY WHITEHURST. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES THREE ÃZERO. NOW THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING ON COMPAMD 22 ONE Ã10 SILVERLEAF, THIS IS TRANSMITTAL.

WE WILL GO HERE GOOD MORNING. >> MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, AS MS. SMITH IS APPROACHING, FOR THE APPLICANT, I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE BOARD THAT THIS IS NOT A QUASIJUDICIAL

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ITEM IS A LEGISLATIVE ITEM. THERE IS NO QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEDURES, NO NEED FOR X PARTAKE DISCLOSURES. THEY ARE APPARENTLY THREE PERSONS THAT ARE PRESENTING SOME CITIZENS AND THE BOARD HAS A RULE ON EXTRA LOT OF TIME WHEN SOMEONE IS REPRESENTING A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THE RULE BASICALLY PERTAINS WHEN THERE IS MORE THAN 20 PERSONS, NECKLACES PRESENT, THAT THE COMMENTS TO THE BOARD MAY BE EXPANDED TO 10 MINUTES.

NOW HERE I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF I DON'T WANT TO SAY CONFUSION OR AMBIGUITY, I THINK THERE UP TO 64 PEOPLE, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY HERE, BUT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS COUNSEL AND I THINK THE THREE GENTLEMEN WHO WOULD BE REPRESENTING THAT IS MR. CONSTANTINE, WOULD BE DURING PUBLIC, TO ALLOW THE GROUP 15 MINUTES, THEY CAN DIVIDE UP THE WAY THEY WANT AND IT WOULD BE MORE THAN 15 MINUTES. AND AGAIN, NOMINALLY, TO REPRESENT THAT LARGER GROUP OF PEOPLE. I WILL SAY TOO, MR. CHAIR, I DID NOTICE SOME SENSE OF TENSION BETWEEN I THINK THE REPRESENTATIVES ON THIS AND AS THE BOARD KNOWS, THE BOARD IS NOT INTERESTED IN ANY KIND OF DRAMA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

JUST THE FACTS AND FIGURES AND YOU KNOW, INFORMATION OUT THERE SO THE BOARD CAN BASE A

DECISION. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WON'T HAVE ANY DRAMA OR ANY THING PERSONAL WE HEARD A DEAL FACTS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION FOR THE BOARD. WE'LL KEEP EVERYTHING PROFESSIONAL.E WILL MAINTAIN THE BOARDS RULES OF DECORUM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THAT. IN AN EFFORT TO CLARIFY THIS TODAY I SPOKE WITH MR. CONSTANTINE, A ATTORNEY AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT YOU REPRESENTED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PARTIES INVOLVED HERE IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? HE'S ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IS CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING PRIOR TO THIS IS ONE SPEAKER THAT WOULD SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE THREE GROUPS. HAS THAT NOW CHANGED? DO WE HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING?AN YOU PLEASE STAND UP AND COME TO THE

MICROPHONE. >> BASICALLY PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

INAUDIBLE] >> I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

WE HAVE UP TO 64 PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENTED PREFER TO HAVE ONE SPEAKER DRESS I THINK THAT YOU AS AN ATTORNEY ARE FULLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE MOST HELPFUL BUT ANYONE ANOMALOUS WILL HAVE TO HEAR FROM THEM SPECIFICALLY.

IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON THAT WE NEED TO DIVIDE THIS BETWEEN THREE SPEAKERS? [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S FINE, I WANT, I WOULD LIKE ONE SPEAKER THERE IS A GROUP THAT YOU ALL ARE REPRESENTING. YOU ARE VERY COMPETENT SPEAKERS OF HER DO ALL SPEAK YOU CAN PRESENT YOUR FACTS AND ARGUMENTS AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE REST OF THE AUDIENCE. ANOTHER WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN AS

WELL. >> AND I WOULD BE HERE SPEAKING BECAUSE -- SEVERAL OF THE FOLKS HAVE ASKED THAT I SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF SEPARATE APART FROM THE HISTORIC HIGHWAY.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS GOING TO LET TAKE CARE OF THE HISTORIC HIGHWAY.

WE TALK ABOUT REPUTATION WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN -- FROM THERE ON.

I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS. AS WELL AS THE HISTORIC HIGHWAY

BUT I WAS GOING TO SEE THE HISTORIC HIGHWAY -- >> THAT'S FINE.

WE HAVE TO GET TO THIS AGENDA ITEM AND WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE.

WE LIKE TO DO THIS IN AN ORDERLY FASHION. PART OF MY JOB IS TO DO THIS IN A ORDERLY FASHION. YOU CAN BRIEF ON BEHALF OF OF THE 64 RESIDENTS.

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>> AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN WE HAD OUR DISCUSSION WE WENT BACK BECAUSE 65 PEOPLE, YET THE KEEP IN MIND THE HISTORIC HIGHWAY ORGANIZATION IS VERY LARGE, THERE MIGHT BE

OVER THOUSAND MEMBERS. >> WE HAVE PEOPLE GOING, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED HIM AND HE WILL BRIEF ON BEHALF OF THE LARGE GROUP ANYONE NOT PART OF THE ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE A LIST OF

NAMES? >> WE DO HERE. >> I'M SORRY I'M JUST SAYING WE

WERE WORKING WITH YOU IN THAT REGARD. >> I UNDERSTAND.

I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU WILL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AS A PROPERTY OWNER.

UNDERSTOOD. HE WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WILL HEAR FROM.

UNDERSTANDING IS THE APPLICANT OF COURSE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE A 15 MINUTE PERIOD AND MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD BUT I THINK MR. CONSTANTINE WILL PRESENT BUT THERE WILL BE A PORTION THAT.

>> I JUST SAID THAT -- WILL PRESENT AS A PROPERTY OWNER. WE WON'T HAVE DIFFERENT SPEAKERS FOR ONE LARGE GROUP. THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS NOT ON THE LIST AS PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY CAN SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES WE WILL HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.

>> MR. CHAMA FOR THE RECORD ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WE ARE PROVIDED THIS LIST THIS MORNING. WE'VE HAD NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION OF REPRESENTATION OF THESE PEOPLE, SOME ARE FROM PONTEVEDRA AND VARIOUS AREAS OF THE COUNTY AND WITH NO EVIDENCE THAT ANY OF THESE FOLKS FAILED TO ATTEND, WANTED TO ATTEND OR IN ANY WAY HAVE A VOICE OR

POSITION ON THIS PROJECT. >> UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU. ARE WE READY TO PROCEED?

>> MR. CHAIR BEFORE MS. SMITH CONTINUES I HAVE A VERY SMALL HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.

I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT TODAY DID PLACE A PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IT WAS IN YOUR PACKET AND IT HAD A CORRECTION THEY NEEDED TO BE MADE ON IT. HEN ADOPTING ANY ORDINANCE THEY STRICTLY A TRANSMITTAL HEARING. IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, HOWEVER I WANT TO THE CORRECT ORDINANCE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE CORRECT ORDINANCE TO GO TO THE STATE IF IT IS TRANSMITTED. THANK YOU.> ARE THERE ANY

CLARIFICATIONS ON THAT? ARE WE READY TO PROCEED? >> WERE MR. CHAIRMAN, WHENEVER YOU GENTLEMEN ARE. FIRST OF ALL GOOD MORNING IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL FOR THE RECORD I AM TRAN EIGHT, WITH ME ARE A WHOLE HOST INCLUDING FROM THE LANDOWNER, MR. CODY HUDSON AND MR. JOHN METCALF, HAVE R LE.

FOR THE PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE THAT RTISE THAT THEY BRING WHEN WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT UT TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN. LET'S DIVE IN.

WE HAVE SPENT A LIFETIME WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS AND SO I WILL WALK THROUGH SOME CHANGES TO THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE MADE ALONG THE WAY. AS WE GO UP THROUGH THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. WE DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE RESIDENTS ATTENDANCE AND NOT ONE BUT TWO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS. AND A HOST OF TELEPHONE, IN PERSON AND IN WRITING EMAIL CONVERSATIONS. YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OR WE HAVE MADE TO THE PROJECT BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEM. STARTING OUT YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF WHAT IS THE EXISTING SILVER LOOK FOR HERE YOU CAN SEE I-95, THE OUTER BELTWAY, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE EXPRESSWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 22 A NINE. YOU CAN SEE AND READ THE PROPERTIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE ADDED TO THE BOUNDARIES OF SILVERLEAF, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE WOLF TRACK, SOUTH CREEK I'M SORRY TROUT CREEK TRACK SOUTH AND THEN I'M SORRY, DONE IN THIS AREA. THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE DRI, SILVERLEAF IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT AND ALSO HAS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING. THIS MAP IS FOR THE DRI AND ALSO SIMILAR TO THE PUD MAP AND YOU SEE THE EXISTING SILVERLEAF, YOU NOTE THE EXTENSIVE WETLAND AND UPLAND PRESERVATION AREAS AND THEN USING THE VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT PODS FOR LOW DENSITY, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TOWN CENTER AND THOSE KINDS OF USES.

YOU ALL SEE THE THREE PUBLIC SCHOOL SITES WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY, AND THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD, AND YOU SEE THE PARK SITE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY. GOING THROUGH AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED

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ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY OR COUNTY ROAD 22 9, THOSE WORDS WERE CONSTRUCTED BY THE DEVELOPER FROM BEFORE ANY HOMES OR TRAFFIC WAS PUT ON THE ROAD BY THIS PROJECT.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU WILL SEEK THE CONTINUANCE E OF THAT KIND OF EFFORT FOR TRANSPORTATION AND ITIGATION AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROJECT. THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS DEDICATED FOR ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY EXTENSION ALL THE WAY TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY.

THE PROJECT HAS PUT FORWARD TO HUNDRED LOTS IN ARMSTRONG FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I MENTIONED EARLIER THE DEDICATION OF THAT 40 ACRE COMMUNITY PARK SITE WHICH IS ALREADY BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, THE THREE SCHOOL SITES WHICH HAVE ARTIE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED, AND THE PROJECT ALSO CONTRIBUTES ABOUT $7800 PER UNIT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR SCHOOL MITIGATION. AND AGAIN I MENTIONED EARLIER, SHOULD YOU LOCATION OF THE APPROXIMATE 4000 ACRES OF LAND BEING PRESERVED IN THE EXISTING BOUNDARIES OF SILVERLEAF BEFORE OUR HEARING TODAY. SO ZOOMING IN HERE IS EXISTING BOUNDARY OF SILVERLEAF.

AND THEN DOWN HERE ZOOMED IN MORE BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTIES ARE OUTLINED IN YELLOW AND WHAT'S BEING ADDED. WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS IN ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DETAILS TODAY BUT WILL ALSO TALK IT THROUGH TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION AND THAT KIND OF A THING SO YOU GET A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT THE COUNTY IS GETTING FOR MITIGATION FROM THE PROJECT. WITH RESPECT TO THE LAND USE CHANGES, WE WILL REFER TO A LOT OF THESE PARCELS AS RESULT OF THE CONVERSATIONS, I WILL START OUT THIS IS PARCEL 38.

AND 39 A AND 39 B. YOU SEE PPARCELS 40, 41 A, -- YOU CAN SEE THE MAIN BODY OF SILVERLEAF WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL IN MOST OF THE AREA. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TODAY, IS TO CHANGE PARCEL 38 AND 39 A TO RESIDENTIAL C -- COMMERCIAL, PARCEL 40 TWO RESIDENTIAL C AND PARCELS 41 AND 42 RESIDENTIAL A. BUT THAT'S NOT THE WHOLE STORY BECAUSE YOU ALSO, THERE IS ALSO WHAT'S CALLED A SITE-SPECIFIC TEXT POLICY THAT ACCOMPANIES THIS MAP CHANGE THAT GIVES YOU MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON PARCELS 40, 41 AND 42.

TAKING A MORE ZOOMED OUT APPROACHES TO THE SILVERLEAF MASTER PLAN.

WE ARE ADDING 38 AND 39, ADDING 40, 41 A, 41 B AND 42. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT FITS IN THE OVERALL DRI. WE HAVE A MODIFICATION PENNY WITH THE COUNTY WE HAVE AN APPLICATION ALSO PENDING AND WILL WORK THROUGH THOSE APPLICATIONS AND BRING THEM TO YOU ALONG WITH THIS APPLICATION FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WHEN WE GET TO THIS ADOPTION HEARING. WITH RESPECT TO THE LAND USE CHANGES, AGAIN, 38 AND 39 OF A WILL GO FROM AGRICULTURAL INTENSIVE TO RESIDENTIAL C, PARCEL 39 B WHICH IS ONE ACRE GOES FROM AGRICULTURAL TO -- PARCEL 40 ASKING FOR RESIDENTIAL C. PARCELS 41 A, 41 B AND 42 970 ACRES IN SIZE, ARE GOING TO RESIDENTIAL A. WILL FOCUS ON HIS LAST FOUR PARCELS MORE IN THE TEXT POLICY. WITH RESPECT TO THE TEXT POLICY, I WILL PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT. BUT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE MAP AS WE GO.

AND THIS IS ALSO WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU AND THE STAFF. THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE RESIDENTS AT OUR LAST COMMUNITY MEETING OCTOBER 8 AND WE ACTUALLY MADE A COUPLE OF UPDATES TO IT SINCE OCTOBER 8. TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE REQUESTED AS FAR AS BUFFERING AND SCREENING AND THAT KIND OF THING.

I WANT TO WALK THROUGH ALL SIX OF THESE POLICIES. I WILL READ THEM TO YOU AS ON THE MAP BUT THEY ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC RECORD AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE.

WITH RESPECT TO PARCEL 40. AND AGAIN THIS IS THE PARCEL THAT BORDERS COUNTY ROAD 16 A AND GOES FOR THE SOUTH PRETTY CAN ALSO SEE THE 75 FOOT SCENIC EDGE.

THAT IS NUMBER ONE REQUIRED BY THE COMPANY HAS A PLAN ALONG COUNTY ROAD 16 A. THEN WITH

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PARCEL 40 FOR THE FIRST TEXT POLICY, IT IS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN PARCEL 40, WILL NOT BE PERMITTED UNTIL THE FIRST COST EXPRESSWAY IS OPEN TO TRAFFIC OR JANUARY 1, 2030 WHICHEVER FIRST OCCURS. ST. JOHN'S COUNTY WILL NOT FOR THE FIRST RESIDENTIAL PLATTER COMMERCIAL HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PARCEL 40 THE EXPRESSWAYS OPENED OR JANUARY ONE 2030, WHATEVER FIRST OCCURS.

DEVELOPMENT OF PARCEL 40 WILL NOT OCCUR FOR AT LEAST NINE YEARS AND PROBABLY LONGER.

THUS TECH POLICY NUMBER ONE. TECH POLICY NUMBER TWO SAYS LOTS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGES WITHIN PARCEL 40, SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF ONE HALF ACRE.

IF WE LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT EDGES WHICH ARE REQUIRED, THEY ARE 35 DEVELOPMENT EDGES REQUIRED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BOUNDARIES OF PARCEL 40 DO NOT TOUCH A ROAD WHICH IS WHERE THE 75 FOOT SCENIC EDGE, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THIS LOCATION OF THE MINIMUM ONE HALF ACRE LOTS. IN THESE AREAS, THIS AREA AND AROUND THESE CORNERS.

THAT WAS DONE AGAIN IN RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA.

THEN THE TEXT POLICY CONTINUES AND THIS RELATES TO HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD AREA.

LOTS WITHIN PORTIONS OF PARCEL 40 ADJACENT TO LAND LOCATED ALONG HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD, BETWEEN PENNY BROOK LANE AND THE SOUTHERN END OF HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD.

AND LAWS ADJACENT, ALONG COLLIER ROAD ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE WITHIN PARCEL 40. IT WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 100 FEET WIDE AND 200 FEET DEEP AND A MINIMUM OF ONE HALF ACRE. EACH OF THE LOTS HAVE A DEED RESTRICTION PROHIBITS THE CLEARING OF VEGETATION WITHIN THE 15 FEET OF THE ADJACENT LOT OR OF THE LOT I'M SORRY ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE. YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE LOTS THAT ARE AFFECTED MINIMUM OF ONE HALF ACRE IN SIZE AND 100 BY 200 ALONG HARDWOOD LANDING AND COLLIER ROAD. THAT'S THAT DETAIL. ITEM NUMBER FOUR SAYS LAKES AND BURNS MAY BE LOCATED WITHIN THE PARCEL 40 DEVELOPMENT EDGES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING AND SCREENING FROM THE ADJACENT LANDS. AGAIN, USE THE DEVELOPMENT EDGES AND THOSE LIKE TO SEE THE PLACEMENT OF LAKES AND VERY STRATEGIC AREAS TO BUFFER FROM THOSE SURROUNDING LANDS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE SAYS SPECIFIC LAND USE IS PERMITTED WITHIN SILVERLEAF PARCEL SET FORTH IN THE SILVERLEAF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL BE ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY ORDINANCE 2021 AND WHENEVER WE GET THERE WE WILL FILL IN THE BLANK.

THAT LIMITS THE LAND USE AND PARCEL 40. THE LAST TEXT POLICY RELATED TO PARCEL 40 SAYS SILVERLEAF WILL NOT CONNECT TO HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD OR COLLIER ROAD.

BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS DO NOT WANT THE INTERCONNECTIVITY. WE HEAR WITH THAT SAID IT'S WRITTEN IN BLACK-AND-WHITE AND IT WILL GROW THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEXT SERIES.

I'M SORRY I MISSED THIS ONE. HARDWOOD LANDING THIS IS WHAT THE PERIMETER LOOKS LIKE.

THIS VELTMAN EDGE HERE THE 15 FOOT NO CLEAR ZONE, 50 FEET OF PROPERTY THIS IS WHAT HARDWOOD LANDING LOOKS LIKE THE RIGHT OF WHERE THEN YOU HAVE THAT ONE HALF ACRE LOT 200 FOOT MINIMUM LOT. THAT'S WHAT THE 50 FOOT BUFFER LOOKS LIKE.

THEN GOING FORWARD TO THE TEXT POLICIES AGAIN, WHICH ARE IN BLACK-AND-WHITE IN THE RECORD.

THESE RELATE TO PARCELS 41 A, 41 B AND 42. I WILL GO TO THE NEXT MAP AND SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE LIST, SAYS THIS RELATES TO MR. PARCEL ID NUMBERS. LOT ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGES WITHIN THE PORTIONS OF SILVERLEAF ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY WITH PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS 011565 Ã 4000 AND -- SHALL HAVE A DEED RESTRICTION THAT PROHIBITS THE CLEARING OF VISITATION WITHIN THE 15 FEET OF SUCH LOTS ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE ALONG SUCH PARCELS.

WITH RESPECT TO MR. -- PROPERTY HAVE 35 FOOT MINIMUM DEVELOPMENT EDGE ALL THE WAY AROUND AND A 15 FOOT UNDISTURBED BUFFER ALL THE WAY AROUND.

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YOU ALSO SEE HERE, LAKES AND A NO BUILD AREA. THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE.

SO HE'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY 50 FOOT BUFFER IF YOU WILL. AND LAKES.

THAT IS WHAT WE WORK THROUGH IN CONJUNCTION WITH HIM OR HOPEFULLY WITH HIM, WE WILL SEE. THAT AGAIN IS A COMPILE ABILITY IN THE TEXT POLICY FOR HIM.

WITH RESPECT TO DEVELOPMENT OF SILVERLEAF PARCELS 41 A, 41 B AND 42, THOSE ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PARCELS. TOTAL SHOULD NOT EXCEED 195 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.

WHICH RESULTS IN A GROSS DENSITY OF APPROXIMATELY ONE UNIT PER FIVE ACRES.

WHICH IS COMPATIBLE AT THE USE OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. I'M GOING TO GO TO THIS SLIDE, THIS SHOWS YOU BETTER 41 A, 41 B AND 42. THAT IS AGAIN, THESE AREAS IN TOTAL INCLUDE MORE THAN 195 LOTS. THESE ARE EQUESTRIAN SIZE LOTS.

IN DEVELOPMENT WITHIN PARCEL 41 B SHALL NOT -- EACH A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES.

EVERYTHING IN THE DARK GREEN, THE OLIVE COLOR ARE MINIMUM THREE ACRE LOTS.

AND IN THESE AREAS. THE POLICY GOES ON TO READ THIS IS NUMBER 10, LOTS WITHIN PARCEL 41 A SO ON THE NON-RIVER SIDE OF STATE ROUTE 13, -- OR COLLIER ROAD OR THOSE THAT FRONT OF STATE ROUTE 13 SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES AND REMAINDER OF 41 A SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE. THOSE ARE THE THREE ACRE MINIMUM LOTS SIZE AND THE REST IS THE LIGHTER GREEN COLOR WILL BE MINIMUM ONE ACRE LOT SIZE. AND THEN CONTINUING ON TO TECH POLICY 11, LOTS WITHIN PARCEL 42 THAT ARE ADJACENT TO STATE ROAD 13 OR ADJACENT TO LOTS THAT FRONT ON STATE ROUTE 13 SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES AND REMAINDER OF LOTS WITHIN PARCEL 42 SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE. THEN THE TEXT POLICY --

>> EXCUSE ME. IF YOU HAVE PHONES IN THE ARTIST PLEASE SILENCE THEM RIGHT NOW OR WE WILL ASK YOU TO LEAVE. THANK YOU.

PLEASE CONTINUE. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. THE LAST POLICY IS NON- RESIDENTIAL USES SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED IN 41 A, 41 B AND 42 EXCEPT FOR ONE EQUESTRIAN AND -- AGRICULTURAL AND -- USES YOU WILL ALSO NOTE SINCE THEN WE HAVE FOLKS FROM THE HIGHWAY GROUP THAT ARE HERE, THERE IS A 75 FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE ALONG STATE ROAD 13.

AND ALSO, ALL OF THE LOTS THAT FRONT ALONG STATE ROUTE 13 ARE MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES IN SIZE.

GOING FORWARD TO TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION THE MITIGATION WILL CONTACT TO 209 IN THIS STATE ROUTE 13 CONNECTED FROM THE OP ROAD FOR THE FIRST COUNTY ROAD 16 A AND EVENTUALLY STATE ROAD 13. AGAIN, THESE ARE COLLECTOR ROADS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETAILS OF FOUR LANES VERSUS TWO LANES AND CONSTRUCTION AND THE COST IS ABOUT $40 MILLION WHICH IS THE ADDITIONAL MITIGATION BEING PROPOSED RELATED TO THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

AGAIN IT'S A DRI ISSUE BUT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION SINCE IT IS MENTIONED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. GOING FORWARD JUST TO SAY THAT

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THESE WILL BE REGIONALLY SIGNIFICANT COLLECTOR ROADS. YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC COUNT ON THE PROPOSED MITIGATION ROADS AND THE ACCOUNTS INCLUDE NONPRODUCT RELATED TRAFFIC.

YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER OF DAILY TRIPS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO USE THE LOOP ROAD AND THEN 5000 TRIPS ON THE COLLECTOR ROAD FROM STATE ROAD 13 WHEN EVENTUALLY IT CONNECTS TO THE LOOP ROAD THAT STILL CARRIES ABOUT 2200 TRIPS PER DAY THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO THE PROJECT.

AND SO THAT IS JUST A TOUCH IN THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION. A SUMMARY OF THE BENEFITS AGAIN, THE PROJECT WILL INCREASE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION CONTRIBUTION BY MORE THAN $40 MILLION FOR APPROXIMATELY 6.2 MILES OF NEW ROADS.

IT WILL PROVIDE NEW LOCATIONS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL SPACE IN THE EXPRESSWAY THEY WILL ADD JOBS AND TAXES FOR THE COUNTY. EXPAND HOUSING CHOICES IN NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THE PROJECT WILL CONSTRUCT 12 FOOT MULTIPURPOSE PATHS ALONG THE COLLECTOR ROADS WHICH IF YOU GO TO SILVERLEAF NOW YOU SEE PLENTY OF FOLKS WITH STROLLERS AND BIKES AND RUNNERS USING THAT MULTIPURPOSE PATH ALONG 2209. THAT WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT DOWN TO TROUT CREEK PARK AND WITH THE COUNTY SEES FIT YOU CAN ALSO GO TO THE PARKWAY THROUGH THE 12 MILE IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT FOR A LONG RECREATIONAL TRIP.

THE PROJECT BILL THAT WILL PRESERVE MORE THAN 4700 ACRES AND AGAIN, ADDING PARCELS 41 AND 42, THOSE WILL BE EQUESTRIAN LOW DENSITY TO PRESERVE THAT CHARACTER AND SCENIC HIGHWAY ALONG STATE ROAD 13. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WAS A LONG-AWAITED EXPLANATION OF ALL OF OUR TEXT POLICIES. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE AGAIN, RESIDENCE COMMENTS, SPEAKING OF THAT, I WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR RESIDENTS OF HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD AND COLLIER ROAD WHO ARE HERE, I BELIEVE THAT SOME ENGINEERS HAVE MET WITH THE FOLKS. THEY HAD SOME EXISTING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND SO OUR TEAM WILL WORK WITH THEM TO SEE IF THE PROJECT CAN DO ANYTHING TO HELP THEIR EXISTING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND ALSO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING ALONG HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD THERE IS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT FIRE COVERAGE SO WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT FIRE I'M SORRY, WATER INTERCONNECTIVITY FOR THE AREA. WITH THAT BEING SAID I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? PUBLIC COMMENT, WHEN WE START WITH MR.

>> LET ME, I AM THE PERSON ASSIGNED TO CONTROL THE CLOCK HERE SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING. AS I UNDERSTAND IT HE HAS 15 MINUTES AND THEN ANYONE ELSE NOT ON THE LIST OF 65 HAS THREE MINUTES, INCLUDING MR. WE WILL START OUT WITH 15 MINUTES. THEN WE WILL HAVE EVERYONE ELSE HAVE THREE MINUTES WHO IS NOT ON THE LIST. YES SIR, GOOD MORNING.

LET ME GET THE CLOCK. >> MY NAME IS JOE -- BLACKBERRY LANE, I APOLOGIZE FIRST OF ALL, I WAS TO BE ONE OF THREE SPEAKERS AND SO I'M FILLING IN FOR TWO OF THOSE.

BUT I KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY SO I AM READY. DID PREPARE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, AL -- IS GOING TO LEAD OFF. WE ARE PREPARED WITH INTRODUCTORY SLIDES. I JUST WANT AL TO SAY HE'S MUCH MORE THAN THE HIGHWAY.

HE REPRESENTS THE COUNTYWIDE ISSUES, IF I CAN GET THIS TO GO.

HE REPRESENTS COUNTYWIDE ISSUES, ALL THE THINGS WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO AND SUPPORT SMART GROWTH BUT PLANNING ALMOST DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS AL, THAT IS ALL OF YOU.

THAT IS ALL OF US. THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE PRESENTATION.

WE DO WANT TO PRESENT TWO OPTIONS HERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AND AS MS. SMITH HAS OUTLINED HERE IN THE GREEN, THE EXISTING DRI IN YELLOW, THE ADDED LANDS

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THAT THE APPLICANT SEEKS. AND OF THOSE OPTIONS, MIGHT INCLUDE OPTION ONE WHICH WOULD BE WHAT THE PZA HAS RECOMMENDED.HEY DID ANALYSIS AND MADE A DETERMINATION.

TO THE EXTENT YOU'D WANT TO FOLLOW YOUR PZA RECOMMENDATION IT IS AN OPTION.

OPTION NUMBER TWO, MIGHT BE APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONS. AND IN TALKING TO RESIDENTS, AND PARTICULARLY WITH AL AND MR. -- MORE CONDITIONS THAT WILL BE LISTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THERE IS EVEN AN OPTION THREE.

WHICH CAME IN LATELY. HERE I AM TO TALK ABOUT THE PZA.

THAT WAS MY INITIAL RULE. I WILL SAY LOOKS LOOK AT THE FACTS AND FINDINGS, THE PZA SUMMARY OF EVALUATIONS AND FINALLY, LET'S LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATION.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT IT COULD BE OPTIONAL, FOR YOU IT IS IMPORTANT.

WE LOOK AT WHAT IS ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, WE SEE THAT IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL COMMON EXISTING DRI HAS 5.8 PERCENT BUILDOUT. WE THINK IT IS HIGHER.

THE COUNTY ALWAYS TRYING TO STAY UP WITH CURRENT INFORMATION, BUT THIS IS WHAT IS ON YOUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW. AND FOR CITIZENS TO SEE. MY GOSH, 600 HOMES OUT OF 10,000. AND IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL, NONRESIDENTIAL, ZERO PERCENT.

A FANTASTIC MASTER PLAN, WE KNOW IT IS COMING. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW ZERO PERCENT AND AGAIN IT IS ON YOUR WEBSITE. LET'S LOOK AT EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, PZA DID THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT HARDWOOD LANDING, COLLIER ROAD. SORRY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THE COLOR ON THOSE DOTS.

HARDWOOD ROAD, COLLIER LANDING TO THE LEFT, TWO AND HALF ACRES PER UNIT.

AND DOWN TO THE RIGHT, 1/2 TO 2 ACRES PER SITE. ALREADY YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS SURROUNDING WHAT IS PROPOSED AND WHEN YOU DROP IN PARCEL 40 PARTICULARLY, AT RESIDENTIAL C, RESIDENTIAL C AT SIX UNITS PER ACRE YOU CAN SEE HARDWOOD LANDING, COLLIER AND -- FIT IN.

WHEN 1/2 AND TWO ACRE LOTS. I APPRECIATE THERE HAS BEEN SOME BUFFERING DISCUSSED BUT THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO SURROUND THIS, THESE EXISTING AREAS.

TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS IDENTIFIED 19 IMPACTED ROAD SEGMENTS.

DOLLARS TO BE DETERMINED. BUT THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE ISSUE FOR MANY PROJECTS INCLUDING YOUR PZA WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND WE DID HEAR THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY DUE TO BE COMPLETED IN 2030. AND THERE IS TEXT AMENDMENT TO WITHHOLD PARTIAL 40 AT WHICH TIME THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY WILL BE OPENED FOR 2030, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

SO THE PZA SUMMARIZED, IN MANY WAYS, THIS IS MY TAKE ON WHAT THEY CONSIDERED.

WE HAVE AN INITIAL PHASE, WE ARE SURROUNDED BY DEFICIENT ROADS AND IN MANY WAYS, WE WILL AND COMPLETION ON THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. 40 IS A HUGE DRIVER.

A HUGE DRIVER FOR THIS PROJECT AND IT VIRTUALLY CONNECTS 16 EX PARTE WITH 13 AND THE CONNECTOR THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT AWAITS THAT. IF PARCELS 41 WERE BUILT FIRST, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF AROUND TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE CONNECTOR WOULD NOT BE THERE YET.

THE COUNTY STAFF GIVES YOU ALWAYS FACTS, FINDINGS OF FACT FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL.

INCLUDING THESE FOR DENIAL. IMPORTANTLY, AND I WILL SAY I THINK THE WORD HERE IS NOT YET.

NOT YET. WHAT ARE THE TRENDS? THEY ARE COMING BUT NOT HERE YET. ARE THERE CLEAR BENEFITS? GOSH, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF BENEFITS BUT NOT YET. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS COMING LARGELY IN 2030.

COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING CHARACTER TRAFFIC CONSISTENCY WITH COMPREHENSIVE CLAIM.

THOSE WILL COME. WE ARE NOT DENYING THE FEATURES OF THIS APPLICATION BUT YOUR PZA VOTED THREE ÃTHREE TO DENY AND THIS WAS A QUOTE FROM THE ONE HOUR 54 MINUTE MARK OF THE

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PZA MEETING THAT THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT AND GIVEN THE DEFICIENCIES OF THE ROAD SYSTEM, THIS IS JUST TOO PREMATURE TO APPROVE, NOTHING PREMATURE IS THE BIG WORD HERE. PREMATURE. SO THERE IS OPTION TO, APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

LATER. HE IS VERY ELOQUENT ABOUT THAT, RAY PASSIONATE BUT I CAN TELL YOU AND DISCUSS WITH HIM AND OTHERS, THOSE CONDITIONS MIGHT BE TO REDUCE THE DENSITY AND PARCEL 40, NOT RESIDENTIAL C BUT SOMETHING MUCH LESS. AND WE CAN SEE WHAT'S AROUND IT. NO NONRESIDENTIAL IN 40. -- I THINK LARGELY WE SEE THAT HAPPEN. INCREASED BOUNDARY BUFFERS AND SETBACKS FOR ADJACENT LANDOWNERS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN SOME OF THAT. TO REVISE THE STATE ROUTE 13 CONNECTOR THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THERE WILL BE DISCONNECTION CONNECTS DRI WITH THE SCENIC HIGHWAY. THERE IS CONCERN FOR TRAVEL CHOICE THAT WILL BRING PEOPLE UNEXPECTEDLY TO THE SCENIC HIGHWAY AND THAT IS, THAT CAN BE RUREMEDIED DIFFERENTLY.

AND OF COURSE THE DELAY TO ALL. PZA HAS SAID THIS, THE 2030 DELAY DOES SEEM TO BE A FACTOR HERE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MANY OF THESE VERY QUICKLY HERE.

WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL WITH VERY VERY LOW DENSITY.

THE QUESTION IS, WHY IS THIS MORE LIKE A OR B, SOMETHING NONRESIDENTIAL IN PARCEL 40 COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL NATURE.INGLE-FAMILY LOTS ONLY MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE . INCREASED BOUNDARIES WE'VE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT THOSE.

IT IS A GOOD START. AND WITH REDUCED DENSITY, FEEDS INTO THIS ENTIRE IDEA, BETTER MEETING THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH ASKS FOR COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING AREA. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SCRATCHY LINE.

I DON'T HAVE A BLACK BELT IN POWERPOINT SO I TRIED MY BEST BUT YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTOR IS IMPORTANT FROM THE STANDPOINT IF YOU WILL, OF HAVING THE EQUESTRIAN FAMILIES BE ABLE TO CONNECT BACK UP TO THE NEW SCHOOL ON 16 A, THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED TO GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND TO 16 A, THE CONNECTOR MAKES SENSE BUT IF THIS ENTIRE AREA IS VIEWED AS A LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE WAYS OF GOING FROM POINT A TO POINT B THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITHOUT HAVING A 45 MILE AN HOUR CONNECTOR AND SO THIS IS JUST TO SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE WAYS OF GETTING POINT A TO POINT B, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONNECTION TO THE NEW SCHOOL IS IMPORTANT BUT CAN BE DONE IN SUCH A WAY AS TO NOT INVITE NONRESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC SUDDENLY TO THE NEW STATE. AND FOR THE 2030 DELAY, PARCEL 40 IS A KEY DRIVER IF NOT THE KEY DRIVER. AND WITHOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL ONE EXISTS, NO NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTOR. HELLO. TRYING TO GET THIS TO MOVE.

OKAY SO A SUMMARY OF CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL, WE PUT THOSE OUT THERE ON THE TABLE AS AN OPTION. THAT THIS COULD APPROVE WITH THESE CONDITIONS.

THERE POSSIBLY IS AN OPTION THREE FOR YOU TODAY AND THAT IS A 30 DAY DELAY IF YOU WILL TO HAVE THIS CONTINUED, ALLOW TIME FOR THE APPLICANT AND RESIDENTS TO MEET AT THE GRILL APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WE ARE PRESENTED WITH TODAY, WITH THE REPRESENTATION OF LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE AND MORE THAT CAN BE REFINED IN THOSE AMENDMENTS. AND SO THIS IS POSSIBLY OPTION THREE FOR YOU.

I THINK THAT A DENIAL TODAY IF YOU WILL, IS JUST A DENIAL FOR 2021.

PZA HAS SAID THIS IS PREMATURE. SO MUCH AWAITS ON THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY.

LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE YET IT'S COMING. BUT IT IS NOT QUITE THERE YET.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE URGENT NEED FOR HOUSING, BUT 2030 IS NINE YEARS AWAY.

SO THIS APPLICATION COULD COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS, THE SAME APPLICATION THE SAME APPROVED

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APPLICATION COULD COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS AND IT LENDS CREDIBILITY TO OPTION NUMBER ONE IF YOU WILL TO DENY WITH REASON, BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT FOLLOWING YOUR RECOMMENDATION. AND IT COULD BE TRANSMITTED WITH CONDITIONS.

WHERE THOSE CONDITIONS DO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED OR CAN BE DELAYED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF SILVERLEAF. AGAIN, SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN, SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN, GROWTH WILL HAPPEN. GOOD GROWTH, GOOD PLANNING, GOOD BALANCE TO DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS MORE THAT CAN BE DONE AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE ARE REASONS FOR EACH OF THESE OPTIONS AND THESE ARE ALL GOOD OPTIONS WITH THAT I DO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, BEFORE WE GO FURTHER WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING HERE. HE SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THE PCA MADE A RECOMMENDATION MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS A THREE ÃTHREE VOTE WHICH MEANS IT'S A TYPICAL DENIAL IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE A RECOMMENDATION,

AM I CORRECT? >> WRITES A TECHNICAL DENIAL. >> OKAY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON THAT. WE SAID RECOMMENDATION I DON'T THINK LEGALLY.

>> IT WASN'T -- QUIZZES WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS DIFFERENT SO

I APPRECIATE THAT. >> OKAY THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO TURN TO PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE AND

YES, SIR? >> YES, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS AL -- YOU LIVE IT 1133 RIVER BIRCH ROAD. IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

ALSO CHAIR OF THE SCENIC AND HISTORIC HIGHWAY CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT GROUP WHICH AUTHORIZED STATE AND COUNTY SCENIC HIGHWAY. OUR MISSION IS TO PRESERVE PROTECT MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE SCENIC HIGHWAY. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW ME I'VE BEEN CHAMPIONING SLOW GROWTH FOR MANY YEARS 23 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN RESIDENT OF ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. I ALSO HAVE SHARED THE SCENIC HIGHWAY, AND HAVE SPOKE OF HER MANY TIMES MY CONCERNS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COUNTYWIDE AND NOT JUST STATE ROUTE 13 CORRIDOR.

I ALSO RAN FOR COUNTY COMMISSION ON TWO OCCASIONS WITH THE OBJECTIVE TO BRING MY CONCERNS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND SLOW DOWN THE GROWTH IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS IN OUR OPINION IS EXPANSION 5600 HOMES POTENTIALLY AS MANY AS 12,000 OR MORE VEHICLES ASSUMING 2.3 VEHICLES PER RESIDENTIAL HOME IN A RURAL AREA IS EXTREMELY INTENSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

RESIDENTIAL C HAS NO PART IN THIS COUNTY. AT BEST A OR B SHOULD BE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IN OUR OPINION, MY OPINION PERSONALLY IS, THIS IS POTENTIAL PIECE OF GREED IN THE PART OF THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE EXISTING ROAD STATE ROUTE 1316, COUNTY ROAD 16 AND COUNTY ROAD 16 EX PARTE ARE ALREADY CONGESTED AND WON'T SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM ALSO IS THE FACT THAT THE NEW SILVERLEAF HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE BUILT ON 16 A WHICH IS A TRAVESTY.

ALSO, THE PLANNED STATE ROAD CONNECTOR ROAD IS NOT EVEN A REQUIREMENT OF THE COUNTY PLANNING OR TRAFFIC ENHANCEMENT DEPARTMENT. IN FACT, THE CONNECTOR ROAD

CREATES TRAFFIC ISSUES. [INAUDIBLE] >> EXCUSE OR CAN YOU PLEASE

TURN THE MICROPHONE THERE? >> THANK YOU. IS THAT OKAY? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM WHICH WAS PRESENTED BY THE DEVELOPER, WE LOOK AT, THIS IS THE PARCEL NUMBER 40.ERE WE HAVE PARCEL 40, WE'VE GOT THIS BEING THE CONNECTOR ROAD, WE HAVE ONE ACCESS HERE, ONE ACCESS HERE AND TWO THEN ONE ACCESS ONTO 16 A IN ADDITIONAL YOU HAVE THIS PARCEL ACCESSING 16 A AND POTENTIALLY THIS PARCEL, HERE WE HAVE THE NEW SILVERLEAF HIGH SCHOOL SO ALL OF THIS IS IMPACTING A COUNTY ROAD 16 A WHICH HAS A, DITCHES

ON BOTH SIDES. >> WE NEED TO FINISH UP, THREE MINUTES.

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THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM IN A LINE SO WE CAN MOVE AHEAD RATHER QUICKLY SO THE NEXT SPEAKER THREE MINUTES PLEASE, NAME AND ADDRESS.

IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK PLEASE FORM A LINE SO WE CAN MOVE AHEAD QUICKLY, YES MA'AM, GOOD

MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING -- ST. JOHN'S. I WAS HERE IN JULY TO TALK TO ABOUT -- BACK AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE STILL HAVING THE SAME CONCERNS.

GREENBRIER HILO DID MOVE FORWARD WITH TRANSMITTAL BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS THE IMPACT. HOW MUCH WAS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE COUNTY? I WOULD NOTE TO MS. SMITH THAT ACTUALLY THIS DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY, NOT JUST THAT SPECIFIC AREA. HERE WE ARE WITH ANOTHER REQUEST FOR 5600 MORE HOMES, WE STILL KNOW THE IMPACT, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP YET THAT WE HAD HOPED WOULD ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS SO THEY STILL A BIG QUESTION BUT WHAT DEVELOPMENT DO IN THIS AREA. FROM TODAY'S SUBMISSION AS I WAS READING THROUGH IT I NOTED THAT THEY SAID THE PROPERTY IS IN AN AREA OF THE COUNTY TRANSITIONING FROM BEING RURAL IN CHARACTER TO SUBURBAN LIFE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND ASSOCIATED COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES THE SERVICE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.HAT TRANSITIONS HAPPENING BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS ARE PUSHING THAT TO HAPPEN.

WHEN THEY FILL UP THE NORTHWEST SECTOR, WHERE WILL THEY GO? TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY? THE AGRICULTURAL LAND THERE. T ONE POINT DO WE SLOW IT DOWN? I THINK NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO SLOW IT DOWN.

THIS IS NOT, THEY ARE READY STATING THEY WILL NOT START THIS UNTIL 2030.

WHAT IS A NEED TO BE APPROVED NOW?HIS IS A GOOD TIME TO PAUSE, WAIT, SEE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN 2030, DO WE REALLY NEED THAT MUCH MORE? WHAT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER RIGHT NOW IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, JACKSONVILLE IS RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE LEADING IMPORTERS OF JOBS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS WE ALL KNOW, THE JOBS COME TO DUVAL COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE MOVED TO ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. WE NEED TO SLOW THAT DOWN, WE NEED TO REVERSE IT, BUT MORE TECHNOLOGY IN PROFESSIONAL JOBS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY SO IN NOT PUSHING PEOPLE UP THE ROAD INTO JACKSONVILLE CREATING THAT TRAFFIC, THAT IS WHY IMPACTS EVERY RESIDENT IN THE COUNTY, NOT JUST THOSE WHO LIVE PERIPHERAL TO THE EXISTING SILVERLEAF, I WOULD ASK YOU TODAY TO DENY THE TRANSMITTAL, IT IS TOO EARLY IT NEEDS TO COME BACK LATER WHEN WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. YES?

SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> THIS DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU IS A TABLE THAT I CREATED. -- I AM THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS DESIGNEE FOR PURPOSES OF THIS HEARING. OUR CONCERNS LIE WITH THE INTENSITY OF ALL PARCELS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL C. THE -- THE ENORMITY OF THIS EXPANSION IN RELATION TO THE ORIGINAL TIER I IS ILLUSTRATED BY THE PERCENTAGES HERE IN THE LAST COLUMN AND BY THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN -- THE NUMBERS EXCEPT THE ORIGINAL ACREAGE OF 10,000 CAME FROM A JULY 28 HANDOUT THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED TO PEOPLE WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE INCLUDING MYSELF, THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES YOU'VE GOT 44 PERCENT INCREASE OVER WHAT IS REALLY ALLOCATED TO THE ORIGINAL DRI. WE DON'T, WE THINK THAT THIS WILL FINISH OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENTAL AND AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY PARTICULARLY IN THAT PART. AND WILL OPEN THE GATE AS PREVIOUS SPEAKER INDICATED, TO DEVELOPMENT FURTHER SOUTH, ALONG 13 AND PROBABLY ALL THE WAY -- IT'S A GREEN LIGHT.

WE THINK THAT YOU SHOULD PUT THE BRAKES ON THIS AND CERTAINLY, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THE BRAKES ON IT, AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING MORE INTENSE THAN RESIDENTIAL B

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IS ASSIGNED TO THOSE PARCELS WHICH ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL C. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.YES MA'AM? >> MY NAME IS ELLEN WITMER, I RESIDE AT 1178 -- ST. JOHN'S,

NORTHWEST SECTOR, PATRICK, DO YOU NEED TO SAY SOMETHING? >> IS GOING TO INFORM THE BOARD, MS. WITMER'S NAME IS ON THE NAME OF SPOKESPERSONS REQUESTING ADDING ADDITIONAL SPEAKING TIME, I THINK THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THAT BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARDS ATTENTION. YOUR NAME APPARENTLY WAS ON A

LIST THAT WAS -- >> ESP REQUEST BASED ON THE BOARD RULES, THE SPOKESPERSON

ALREADY SPOKE FOR YOU. >> OKAY, THEY TOLD ME MY NAME HAD BEEN STRUCK.

SO I'M SORRY FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING. >> LET'S, IS HER NAME ON THE

LIST? >> YES HER NAME IS ON THE LIST. MS. WITMER IS VERY SMART AND ARTICULATE, SHE CAN PROBABLY HAVE TWO WORDS TO PROVIDE TO THE BOARD SO.

>> OKAY. WELL I GUESS I WILL GO, SORRY TO HAVE BOTHERED YOU.

>> NO, NO BOTHER AT ALL. >> YES, SIR? NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE, SIR.

>> RIGHT -- ELIMINATED THREE EAGLE POINT DRIVE. I'M A REAL ESTATE AGENT IN THE AREA, HAVE VERY FEW HOUSES TO SELL RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE AN INVENTORY ISSUE.

I APPRECIATE WHAT SILVERLEAF IS DONE TO PUT THE ROADS IN BEFORE THEY STARTED.

I'VE USED THOSE ROADS FOR A WHILE NOW ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A CAR ACCIDENT ON 95 AND THE NEED TO GET TO THE VILLAGE AREA. WE ALSO HAVE AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE THINK THE FACT THAT THEY PUT A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY DON'T HAVE CDD FEES LIKE A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO HELPS. IT HELPS OUT WITH PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE MORTGAGES AND QUALIFY. LIKE I SAID I USE THESE ROADS ALMOST EVERY DAY FOR WORK AND FOR PERSONAL USE. I THINK THEY'VE IMPROVED THE AREA AROUND ME I LIVE JUST 5 TO 10 MINUTES AWAY. WE HAVE NEW BUSINESSES IN THE AREA THAT WE HAVE SUPPORTED AND ENJOYED HAVING RESTAURANTS AND CLOTHING STORES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT ME AND MY KIDS GO TO ALL THE TIME SO I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE NEWS ONLY BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED THE INVENTORY FOR PEOPLE TO BUY HOMES.

I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE ROADS. AS WELL AS THE NEW BUSINESSES

THAT HAVE COME TO THE AREA THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR? >> THE NAME IS JAMES PICKLES, 68 STANSBERRY LANE, SAINT AUGUSTINE. 2018 MY WIFE AND I STARTED PLANNING TO DOWNSIZE FROM TWO ACRES IN A LARGE HOME IN CLAY COUNTY LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LAND WE READ ABOUT -- ONLY SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO THERE IS TOO LARGE AND WHEN IT DID BECOME A REALITY SO AFTER SEARCHING FOR 2+ YEARS AND DEALING WITH CHANGE REAL ESTATE MARKET WE SIGNED A CONTRACT IN AUGUST 2020 AND BECAME THE FIFTH FAMILY TO MOVE INTO SILVERLEAF VILLAGE.

HAVEN'T BEEN THERE JUST OVER A YEAR WE WITNESSED THE EXPLOSION AND GROWTH AND A WELL-DESIGNED MASTER PLAN THAT STARTED IN THE EARLY 2000. THE SEVEN MILE RIDE FROM COUNTY ROAD 210 TO STATE ROUTE 16 IS BEAUTIFUL. THE DEVELOPER CONTINUES TO REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FIRE DEPARTMENT, BAPTIST HEALTH AND OTHERS TO ATTEMPT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. THE PLAN INCORPORATES NEW ROADS TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW AND RELIEVE CONGESTION ON EXISTING SURROUNDING ROADS. I'VE TAKEN A BACKSEAT CARB ACCURACY AND A COUPLE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HELD TO RESPOND TO ADJACENT LANDOWNERS WHO HAVE CONCERNS AND I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH HOW THE DEVELOPER IS LISTENING AND PRESENTING SOLUTIONS TO THOSE CONCERNS.

AS A CURRENT RESIDENT OF SILVERLEAF I CAN SEE HOW THEY DISCOVER THE DRIVE FROM 16 TO COUNTY ROAD 10 AND QUICK ACCESS TO 95 AND I-95. IT IS FREE TO THEM BUT NOT THINKING ABOUT WHO HAS TO MAINTAIN A LOT OF THE BEAUTY, THE DEVELOPER AND CURRENT SILVERLEAF MASTER HOA WHICH I AM A PART, THE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED COMMUNITIES WILL JOIN THE MASTER HOA AND HELP DISPERSE FUTURE POTENTIAL COST. AS I SAID IN OPENING, I DID NOT BELIEVE I WANTED TO LIVE IN SILVERLEAF AND NOW THAT I DO, I CAN SEE WHAT IS BEING DONE AND PLANNED AND I BELIEVE IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL IN THE COMMUNITY AND ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

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THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT. >> THANK YOU SIR, WILL GO TO THE RIGHT SIDE HERE MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. [INAUDIBLE]

>> ACTUALLY THE PARCEL 14 IN THE SILVERLEAF. I HAVE NOTES ON MY PHONE.

ANYWAYS, DOES IT GO UP? OKAY SO BASICALLY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THERE IS A LITTLE PARCEL OF LAND THAT HE AND HIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE THAT IS GOING TO BE A PARK AND THEY GAVE ME THIS AT THE ZONING MEETING AND THAT IS THE PARCEL, I LIVE HERE AND MY NEIGHBOR LIVES HERE, THERE IS SECOND STREET WHICH IS A SMALL ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH ELWOOD IF EVERYONE IS MY IS VERY NARROW IT HAS DITCHES, OUR ROADWAY IS A ROADWAY EASEMENT AND IT SPLITS RIGHT BETWEEN THESE TWO PARCELS SO THESE TWO PARCELS THAT HE'S MAKING TO THE PARK, THESE TWO PARCELS, SO MY REQUEST IS IF YOU APPROVE THIS, THAT YOU MAKE A CONDITION THAT HE NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS PARK OR ANY OTHER PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THIS UNDEVELOPED ROADWAY THAT IS ONLY 30 FEET WIDE ONTO SECOND STREET LIKE THIS MORNING HAD TO DRIVE AROUND THE RECYCLING BINS. NO WAY CAN HANDLE TRAFFIC EVEN IF IT IS A PASSIVE PARK THAT IF PEOPLE IN THE CAN GET THERE FROM ANOTHER DIRECTION THEY WILL IT HAS TO BE GATED OFF FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT NO ONE THINKS IT IS SOMETHING THEY CAN USE. AND THEN I'M GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THIS GENTLEMAN, THE FIRST ONE GOT TO SAY IT SHOULD BE LARGER PARCELS ON 40.

I HAVE FIVE ACRES MY NEIGHBOR HAS FIVE ACRES. YOU CAN SEE BY THAT AND HAVING TINY HOMES EVEN HALF AN ACRE IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT IS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE 16 A WHICH AGAIN IS TWO LANES, YOU GOING TO HIGH SCHOOL OUT THERE DO HAVE THE KIDS DRIVE? PARENTS DRIVE THEIR KIDS THE MASSIVE TRAFFIC AROUND EVERY SCHOOL IS TERRIBLE. AT LEAST LIKE -- THEY HAVE FOUR LANE ROAD THAT SHOULD BE IMPROVED TO ACCOMMODATE IF YOU SHOULD APPROVE THIS, THANK YOU. > THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> MADAM, IF YOU WOULD SUBMIT THOSE RECORDS, IF YOU COULD SUBMIT THOSE OVER HERE.

>> YES, SIR?OOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOE -- 6500 COLLIER ROAD. I'VE COME TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE EXPANSION OF SILVERLEAF CURRENTLY BEING CONSIDERED I'VE LIVED ON COLLIER ROAD OVER 16 YEARS IN A HOMESTEAD PROPERTY THAT OWN WITH MY WIFE. IT ABOUT THE PROPOSED EXPANSION AREA.

I'M FOR THIS. I THINK THE ADDITIONAL ROUTES ARE FAVORABLE CONTINUATION OF THE TRANSFORMATION OF NORTHWEST ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. FOR BEING A BEDROOM COMMUNITY OF JACKSONVILLE TO THE COMMUNITY OF ITSELF I THINK IT'S CRITICAL MASS IN THIS RESPECT, ONE OF THE POSITIVE THINGS WE'LL SEE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES EXPAND TO INCLUDE PROFESSIONAL JOBS WITH LARGER BUSINESSES. SECOND EXPANSION WILL ADD MUCH NEEDED CONNECTOR FROM 13 TO 16 A RAN OFF ONE OF THE NORTHBOUND ON 95 I CAN EITHER HEAD NORTH, ALSO WESTON 13 OR CAN BACKTRACK THROUGH THE GOLF VILLAGE. NEITHER CASE I SPENT THE FIRST 10 MINUTES OF TROUBLE HEADING AWAY FROM MY OBJECTIVE THE AFTERIMAGE AND CONNECT TO ALLEVIATE THIS. ALONG THE SAME LINE OF THINKING I THINK PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC CONGESTION BUT CONSIDER TWO THINGS FIRST WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES WITH NORTHWEST ST. JOHNS COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE IS A WILLFUL ACT OF THE NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR IS. ECOND, TO A SIGNIFICANT DEGREE DEVELOPERS LIKE SILVERLEAF ARE KEY TO ALLEVIATING THIS. ALREADY SILVERLEAF HAS LED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 2209 EXTENSION -- LET ME SAY THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA HAS LED TO A CLEAR IMPROVEMENT IN LIVABILITY YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHAT I CALL THE HOME DEPOT METRIC. WHEN MY WIFE AND I FIRST MOVED TO.

DEVELOPMENT LIKE URBAN CROSSING AND -- LED TO THE NEW MULLEN RACETRACK ROAD AND NOW THE TRIP IS ABOUT ONE HOUR. WITH DEVELOPMENT LIKE SILVERLEAF AND THE PROPOSED EXPANSION I CAN SEE HOME DEPOT SOON COMING TO THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF WORLD GOLF VILLAGE.

IF IT HAPPENS I'LL BE ABLE TO HANDLE HOME EMERGENCIES WITH JUST A 45 MINUTE TRIP.

FROM AN HOUR AND 1/2 TO 45 MINUTES, I CALL THAT PROGRESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU SIR. BACK TO THEM RIGHT SIDE OF THE MICROPHONE, SIR.

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NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. >> DUANE MACK, 8281 HARBOR LANDING ROAD, SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I'M JUST HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I THINK THERE IS VERY FEW PRISTINE AREAS LEFT AND ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. TROUT CREEK, SIX MILE CREEK, THIS AREA SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT REPLACE. THE WILDLIFE THAT GOES TO THIS AREA, THE LAND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS SIMPLY GO FOR LAND. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH ALL THE WILDLIFE? THAT'S MIGHT BE. HAVE 10,000 HOMES THEY HAVE NOT BUILT YET, THEY SHOULD AT LEAST 275 PERCENT OF THAT BEFORE THEY EVEN START DOING THESE AREAS. IT IS ABOUT ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS. IT'S REALLY UPSETTING TO ME BECAUSE A 50 FOOT PLACE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, 50 FOOT IS THE WIDTH OF MY HOUSE. SO I WILL HAVE A SUBDIVISION RIGHT THERE. IT'S JUST NOT WHAT, I HEAR 40 YEARS, IT'S REALLY UPSETTING.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR? >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS DARRELL -- 8271 HARDWOOD LANDING ROAD. MY COME BEFORE YOU TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS AMENDMENT THE SILVERLEAF PLAN IN ITS ENTIRETY.

I FEEL THIS AMENDMENT IS UNTIMELY, ONE OF REPRESENTATIVES -- STATED AT A COMMUNITY MEETING IT WOULD BE 20 YEARS BEFORE THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS BUILT OUT.

WHEN HE SAID THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS CRAZY. THEY BUILT 600 HOMES.

HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN DOING THIS? THIS IS TRULY UNTIMELY.

THEY DON'T NEED 2400 MORE ACRES WHEN THEY HAVE NOT BUILT ON WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK IF THEY COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS THEY WILL APPROVE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE EFFECTS OF WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE. TRAFFIC IS ALREADY A NIGHTMARE AND THEY'VE ONLY BUILT 600 HOMES. EVEN WITH ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL ROADS THEY BUILT.

SO NOT ONLY OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT, I URGE YOU TO SLOW GROWTH IN OUR COUNTY UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE CATCHES UP. THIS COMMISSION SHOULD WORK WITH THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY CIVIC ROUNDTABLE TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE GROWTH PLAN TO MANAGE DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS OR CAN PROVE A NEED TO REZONE AGRICULTURE TO RESIDENTIAL. THEY CAN PROVE THEY WANT BUT THEY CANNOT PROVE A NEED.

THE LACK OF INVENTORY IS NOT A NEED WE DO NOT HAVE THE JOBS TO GO WITH THE GROWTH.

THERE SHOULD BE NO ROAD CUT THROUGH THE STATE ROAD 13. THERE SHOULD BE NO RESIDENTIAL C. ADJACENT LOTS ON HARDWOOD LANDING ARE TWO AND HALF ACRES TO 25 ACRES.

HALF-ACRE LOTS ARE NOT SIMILAR TO THIS SURROUNDING AREA. AGAIN, THEY HAVE BUILT $78 MILLION WORTH OF ROADS BUT THE COUNTY GETS TO MAINTAIN THOSE FOR POSTERITY SO WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST IN THE END? UNTIL WE CAN GET ENOUGH FIRE SERVICE, POLICE SERVICE, AND TRASH COLLECTORS, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOES WITH ALL OF THIS GROWTH, YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND DO IT IN A PLAN THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> MY NAME IS BEVERLY HENSON.

I RESIDE AT 7130 SECOND STREET. AND MR. MCNAMARA, MRS. GRIFFEY HAVE WELL REPRESENTED THE OPINIONS OF MY HUSBAND AND I ON THE DEVELOPMENT, THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.

OUR LOT IS A FIVE ACRE LOT. IT IS A RURAL LOT. THE PLAN IS FOR THE DENSITY, ALONG THE BACK UP OF OUR LOT OF FIVE ACRES, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A 50 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY WE HAVE A LARGE CHICKEN PEN WITH MANY CHICKENS. WITH ONLY A 50 FOOT BUFFER TO

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HAVE THIS SUBDIVISION SEE DENSITY. I CAN IMAGINE WE WOULD BE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS WHEN THE ROOF START COMING OFF AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING.

WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, WE MOVED FROM JACKSONVILLE, WE MADE IT FROM -- TO THIS RURAL AREA SO WE COULD GROW OUR GARDENS, WE COULD HAVE OUR CHICKENS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OTHER ANIMALS IN THE FUTURE. I JUST THINK WITH THIS EXPANSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IT IS UNTIMELY. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HAVE Y'ALL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE OTHER THING IS THE PARK. WHICH IS PLANNED, THERE AN EASEMENT THAT THE GRID FEES, MY HUSBAND AND I AND FOR THE DEVELOPER OF THE PART WE SHARE EASEMENT FOR OUR PROPERTIES.

I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT THIS EASEMENT WILL NOT BE USED TO ACCESS THE PARK.

ALSO SECOND STREET, THERE IS JUST NO WAY THAT IT COULD AFFORD THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS PARK COULD POSSIBLY BRING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. GO BACK OVER HERE TO THE LEFT SIDE YES MA'AM.

NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. >> MELINDA PEEPLES, 6231 ARMSTRONG ROAD, ELTON.

I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT HAS SUPPORTED MANY OF THE SMALL COMMUNITIES AND ARMSTRONG ESPECIALLY BECAUSE NOW THEY ARE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUT AND ARMSTRONG.

AND WE KNOW WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO I SUPPORT THE SILVERLEAF PROJECT ARE NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE HOUSES AND OTHER PROJECTS IN THE LOWER INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MA'AM. >> BETH -- CIVIL FIELD DEVELOPER. AS A LOCAL DEVELOPER I WANT TO SAY THIS PARTICULAR YOUR DEVELOPER IS A QUALITY LOCAL DEVELOPER. THEY ARE NOT OUT-OF-STATE HAVE DEEP ROOTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK WITH EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT THEY DESERVE A CHANCE TO BE HEARD WHEN ECONOMY WAS IN THE TANK AND MANY PEOPLE OUT OF WORK THIS DEVELOPER PUT IN 70 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT KEPT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN JOBS. AT A TIME IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.

THEIR PRODUCT HAS 50 PERCENT OPEN SPACE THAT IS TWICE WHAT IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY CODE.

UNDERSTAND PEOPLE DO NOT WANT RESIDENTIAL B BE UNDERSTAND 50 PERCENT OPEN SPACE IS QUITE A BIT. RESIDENTIAL B IN MY OPINION PROMOTES SPRAWL WE NEED MORE DENSITY. THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS WILL TAKE TWICE AS MUCH LAND OR ACTUALLY FROM RESIDENTIAL C TO RESIDENTIAL B WILL TAKE THREE TIMES AS MUCH LAND FOR THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS. I THINK RESIDENTIAL C IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE INSTEAD OF 2800 ACRES ABUSE AND 7500. THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE A HIGHER DENSITY.

THE REASON EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT WHY ARE THEY DOING IT NOW ONE OF THE COME LATER, I WILL TAKE AS A DEVELOPER JUST TO GET A DEP PERMIT RIGHT NOW IS 24 MONTHS.

THIS TIME IS DESPERATELY NEEDED YOU HAVE SOME, THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW MANY DIFFERENT AGENCIES WE HAVE TO GO TO AND EVERYONE IS SHORTSTAFFED AND THEY HAVE A TURNOVER. IT TAKES YEARS TO GAUGE THE POINT TO ACTUALLY TURN DIRT.

THEN WHEN YOU TURN DIRT, WE'RE TALKING THE TIMING IS RIGHT, THE VERY FIRST STEP YOU HAVE TO HAVE IS THE ZONING. BEFORE YOU START SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GET TO THE OTHER POINT. THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPER HAS LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THEY DESERVE TO BE TRANSMITTED.

IT WASN'T ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WAS GIVEN TO Y'ALL BUT I DO THINK THEY DESERVE TO BE TRANSMITTED AND LET THEM CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EVERYONE BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU BEFORE THERE IS APPROVAL AND I THINK THEY'VE SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO CHANGE THEIR PLANS AND WORK WITH THEM AND I THINK THEY DESERVE TO AT LEAST BE TRANSMITTED AND LLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE

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COMMUNITY AND COME BACK BEFORE YOU ANOTHER TIME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK TO THE LEFT. THE LEFT MICROPHONE.

NAME AND ADDRESS. >> KAREN CHAPELLE, 6975 COUNTY ROAD 16 A. I OWN A HORSE FARM ACROSS FROM THE WOLF PASTORS WHICH IS NUMBER 38 ON THIS SUBMITTAL.

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT SILVERLEAF AND THE CHANGES THEY ARE BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY.

I PURCHASED THIS 22 YEARS AGO AND IT WAS VERY RURAL. I FEEL LIKE THE NEW ROADS AND ALL THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE TASTE OF EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY SO

I'M HERE TO SUPPORT SILVERLEAF. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> GOOD MORNING HEATHER NEVILLE, 210 16TH STREET. MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THIS MATTER. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT SINCE I'VE BEEN AT THE PODIUM. IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL IN PERSON.

I WANT TO ADJUST THE ZONING ITEM NOT SO MUCH AS A ZONING IS HOW WE ADDRESS COUNTY NEEDS NOW GOING FORWARD. IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THE CONTINUED EFFORTS TO GET A REGIONAL CONNECTION ON STATE ROUTE 23 TRAIL AS PART OF THE EXPRESSWAY. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, FOR SOME TIME I'VE BEEN FAIRLY AGGRESSIVELY VOLUNTARILY ATTEMPTING TO PIECE BY PIECE PUT TOGETHER A TRAIL NETWORK TO CONNECT OUR COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF THE MOTOR VEHICLE. MY VISION FOR THIS DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A FUNDED REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT STRATEGY. AS A COUNTY REAL ESTATE STRATEGY DOESN'T CURRENTLY AFFORD US MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST.

FOR THIS REASON WE MUST AND HAVE AND CONTINUE TO RELY ON OUR STATE AND DEVELOPER PARTNERS TO CREATE NETWORK. OVER 10 YEARS AGO WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO ENSURE EVERY NEW ROW WE BUILT HAD FACILITY SO IT ENOUGH TO EVER SAY WE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE. ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WAS 2209 AND I WAS A PAIN IN THE DEVELOPERS SIDE TO GET THE TRAIL DONE. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY, PRETTY MUCH ANY TIME OF DAY I CAN TELL YOU IT IS FULL OF PEOPLE WALKING AND RIDING BIKES BECAUSE OF THE FACILITIES THAT WERE BUILT, TO SEE PEOPLE THRIVING LIVING AND LOVING WHERE THEY WORK AND PLAY.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS EXPRESSWAY. WHICH WE WILL ALL GET AN EMAIL ABOUT LATER ON TODAY.

ANYWAY, I'M EXCITED AND NERVOUS THAT WILL MISS OUT ON SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

AS FAR AS THE ZONING TODAY FELT COMPELLED TO COME IN SUPPORT OF THE PARTICULAR ITEM BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT DOES ASSIST AND PROVIDE FACILITY FOR WHAT RESIDENTS WANT.

I UNDERSTAND WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT MORE IS MORE AND CHANGES REALLY TALK, I GET IT, I WORK AROUND THE STATE I GET IT. OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING, HOUSING WAS ALSO GROWN THOUGHTFUL PLANNING FOR PROPERTIES LIKE AN CARD AND ALSO INCREASE NETWORK OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT AS CONNECTING EXISTING AREAS.

AS STATED, SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN HERE. THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.

AS WITH PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THE LIVES OF ALL ST. JOHN'S COUNTY RESIDENTS AND CREATE THESE TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS IN DEVELOPMENT UNTIL SUCH TIME WE HAVE A BETTER STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE REQUEST OF RESIDENTS HOW TO FUND SMART GROWTH, STRATEGIES AND HOW TO

FUND INFRASTRUCTURE. >> THANK YOU. BACK TO THIS SIDE, PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING. >> MY NAME IS ANNIE SMITH JACKSON AND AS THE TWO OTHER PEOPLE OVER HERE WHICH ARE MY NEIGHBORS IN ELWOOD ON 7040 SECOND STREET, I LIVED THERE ALL MY LIFE, 68 YEARS, ALMOST 69. I AM SAYING I SUPPORT SILVERLEAF AND WHAT IS COMING. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID, MY OPINION IS REALLY NOT TRUE AND WHAT I KNOW ABOUT WHEN THEY MENTIONED ABOUT THE PARK, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THE PARK BUT IT SEEMS LIKE SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KNOWING ABOUT THE PARK FOR SOME YEARS NOW.

AND THE DITCHES AREN'T THAT DEEP, YES, THE ROADS ARE NARROW.

BUT THEN TOO, WHEN YOU LIVE WHERE WE LIVE AT, YOU LEARN HOW TO GET AROUND THE ROADS IF THERE IS A CAR OR SOMETHING IN THE ROAD. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I CAN EXPOUND ON AND ON AND HOW MINUTES MAYBE? OR LESS NOW? BUT ANYWAY, WHAT MR. HUDSON IS DOING, LIKE I SAID, I JUST HEARD ABOUT THE PARK PART, IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR ELWOOD, SECTION THERE BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING ELSE SO WHY

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WOULD YOU WANT TO TRY TO STOP THE PARK JUST BECAUSE IT BUTTS UP TO YOUR LAND? THE MAN IS DONATING, NOBODY HAS NEVER DONATED ANYTHING. AND THERE'S ANOTHER ACCESS ROAD, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE TO USE 74 BUT THERE IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP.

AND I KNOW ABOUT IT. MY FEELINGS IS, I SUPPORT IT. WHENEVER IT HAPPENS, IT HAPPENS! BUT I SUPPORT HIM BECAUSE THE MAN WANTS TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND SEEING ANYBODY TRY TO STOP SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I CAN SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY. CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY OF ELWOOD BUT, I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD AGREE SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME IN AND GIVE US A PARK AND DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO GET THE ACCESS TO THAT POINT AND I FOUND OUT ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS! SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT IT.

AND WHATEVER HAPPENS HAPPENS. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. LEFT MICROPHONE. >> IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE BEFORE THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I AM A RESIDENT OF 13800 EGRETS NEST. JUST HAD TO MOVE INTO AN APARTMENT TOLD OUR HOME IS BUILT. WE ACTUALLY THE LAND THAT IS IN QUESTION AS WE HAD A DAIRY FARM FOR MANY YEARS. FOR ME, IT IS EXCITING TO SEE WHAT IS BEING DONE, THE PLANNING THAT IS GOING INTO PLACE THAT IS GOING TO RADICALLY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY WITH BUSINESSES AND ECONOMIC STIMULUS AND WITH THE GROWTH AND CHANGE, IT IS HARD.

MR. HUDSON HAS HAD THE FORESIGHT TO GET AHEAD OF, 2030, WE ACT LIKE IT'S A LONG TIME BUT IT IS REALLY NOT. WE WILL BLINK YOUR EYES AND IT WILL BE THERE.

THE AMOUNT OF BUILDING GOING ON IN SILVERLEAF PRIOR TO THIS, ONLY 600 HOUSES, I THINK YOU SEE AN INCREDIBLE INCREASE, BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND COMING THIS WAY AND HAVING ALL OF THE ROWS THAT HE HAS PUT IN TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE COMING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE ARE ALL ENJOYING RIGHT NOW TO GET AROUND EASIER. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REALLY CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL. SILVERLEAF HAS ARTIE HAD AN INCREDIBLE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN THE BEST OF IT YET.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT. >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS TROY JAMES A LIVE AT 6525 COLLIER ROAD. I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT 23 YEARS. MY COMPLAINT IS ON LOT 40.

WHAT HAPPENS IS I'M AT THE END OF THIS ROAD AND YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THESE RAINS AND CREEKS AND STUFF THAT DUMP RIGHT DOWN INTO THE CREEK RIGHT HERE AND WE'VE GOT ONE ON THE CORNER MY PROPERTY THAT GOES RIGHT INTO HIS PROPERTY AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY THE STUFFY IT WILL DUMP ALL THIS WATER AND CAUSE FLOODING IN MY AREA. AND IT PROBABLY WILL FLOOD MY HOUSE. WITH A DECENT STORM. YOU GOT ALL OF THIS ENVIRONMENTAL WILDLIFE THAT LIVES IN THERE. WE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF DUCKS AND STUFF BUT OVER TIME YOU HARDLY SEE THEM ANYMORE AND ANY OTHER WILDLIFE.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER NEED FOR PROGRESS BY REPOSE THE C RESIDENTIAL, FIVE ACRES AND 20 ACRE LOTS ARE GREAT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LEGALITY OF SOME THINGS BUT IT SEEMS LIKE HUDSON HAS DONATED SOME OF THE -- FOR Y'ALL AND SOME OF Y'ALL ARE GOOD FRIENDS WITH HIM. AND I FEEL LIKE IF THAT IS THE CASE MAYBE YOU SHOULD RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THIS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. FORGIVE THIS TO SOMEBODY?

>> YES SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? >> MY NAME IS PAUL TRYING FIVE 7251 STATE . I HAVE BEEN A ELONG RESIDENT OF ST. . JOHNS COUNTY.

I LIVED IN -- AND WHERE I LIVE NOW, WHERE I LIVE NOW IS 100 YARDS FROM WHERE I WAS BORN.

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I'M 61 YEARS OLD. AND THE GENTLEMAN, MR. SIMMONS, HE'S MY COUSIN.

AND WE USED TO WORK ON MY GRANDFATHERS FARM. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS, WHEN WE LIVED OUT THERE THERE WAS NOTHING. AND NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THERE BUT WHEN THEY CAME NOBODY EVER TRIED TO KEEP THEM FROM COMING. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO LIVE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY? AND EVERYBODY WANTS STORES, THEY WANT CONVENIENCE.

BUT YOU CANNOT HAVE CONVENIENCE WITHOUT NUMBERS. AND I APPRECIATE SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE FORESIGHT AND UNDERSTANDS THE CANNOT START SOMETHING WHEN YOU NEED IT.

YOU HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE. MR. HUDSON PUT THESE ROADS IN THE SILVERLEAF PROJECT, THAT DIDN'T COST ANYBODY ANYTHING EXCEPT HIM. AND WE GET TO REAP THE BENEFITS FROM SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE ABILITY, HAS FORESIGHT TO PUT THINGS IN AND BE ABLE TO DO IT IN A MANNER WHICH PEOPLE CAN HAVE GOOD AND HAPPY LIFE. WE HAVE GREAT SCHOOLS, HAVE SO MUCH TO OFFER BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY WOULD WANT TO KEEP OTHERS OUT NOW THAT THEY ARE HERE. AND I JUST HOPE THAT PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IF YOU GO TO HASTINGS, I'M A COUNTRY BOY. AND YOU COULD GO OUT TO HASTINGS AND THERE'S PLENTY OF OPEN LAND. BUT GO TO HASTINGS, YOU HAVE TO EITHER GO TO PALATKA OR SAINT AUGUSTINE TO BUY GROCERIES. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I JUST PRAY THAT Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS NOT ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE OUT. IT IS ABOUT PROVIDING AN ENVIRONMENT OF LIVING WHERE WE CAN RAISE OUR KIDS AND WE CAN ENJOY OURSELVES.

BUT I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE SILVERLEAF PROJECT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR. ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS FORMED THE LINE AND STOOD PATIENTLY.

ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEASE FORM THE LINE. YES SIR NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> CHUCK -- I AM ALL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, THE ONLY THING I'M AGAINST IS THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE OF IT. IT IS GREAT THAT THEY'RE PUTTING TWO CONNECTOR ROADS THROUGH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BUT IT'S ALL DUMPING ONTO 16 A AND THEN 13 THAT GOES TO 16.

16 IS OVERCAPACITY RIGHT NOW. SECTIONS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WIDENED OVER SEVEN YEARS AGO AND IT IS STILL WAITING. THERE ARE TURNOUT LANES BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW THAT ARE JUST GOING TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF WHAT'S GOING IN THERE AGAIN, WE NEED TO PLAN THIS OUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME PLAN FOR 16 A BEFORE THIS GOES FORWARD.

IT IS GOT TO BE HANDLED FOR 16 AND 16 A. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

YES SIR?AME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. >> MINIMUS SPENCER -- 8421 MARBLE LANDING ROAD JUST BUILT A HOUSE OUT THERE LAST YEAR. MYSELF AND MY ADJOINING NEIGHBOR, AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH MS. SMITH, WE MET WITH MR. HUDSON ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG HARDWOOD LANDING AND AFTER CONVERSATION THEY WERE WILLING TO MAKE CONCESSIONS, THAT'S HOW WE GOT 100 BY 200 LOTS ON THE BORDER OF THE EDGE NEAR OUR HOMES, ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER BORDERING EDGE LOTS. I JUST FOUND THEM TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND A WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US. I UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS. SOME OF THOSE ARE UNDERSTANDABLE AND THERE IS A LOT OF IMPACT AND SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE ALL THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS CAN GO ON. BUT THERE IS SOME TIME FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

I APPRECIATE HIM WORKING WITH US AND I'M SURE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE OTHERS TO COME UP WITH A AMICABLE AGREEMENT TO GET THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. YES SIR? >> GOOD MORNING.

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[INAUDIBLE] I FIRST WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR HEARING LOSS AND THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH US AND SOME CHANGES HAD BEEN MADE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY. I WILL ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THOSE QUICKLY IN THE END.

BECAUSE I JUST SPOKE WITH MS. AVERY SMITH AND GOT SOME CLARIFICATION.

ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED HERE AND OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME UP AND SUPPORTED THE PROJECT, I DON'T THINK ANYONE OF THEM WOULD WANT COMMERCIAL IN THEIR BACKYARD.

AND ON THING ANYONE HERE WANTS THAT IN THEIR BACKYARD. IF YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR IT IN YOUR BACKYARD TO VOTE FOR IT IN AS WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT COMMERCIAL IN LOT 40.

AS YOU KNOW, LOT 40 IS, -- IS THAT MEAN NOT THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. WE DID ASK IF THERE'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL THAT IT WOULD BE A LONG 16 A. WE NEED SOME SORT OF COMMITMENT ON THAT SO IT'S THE ONE MAIN THING I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO ADDRESS. BECAUSE YOU KNOW THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY RURAL AREA. IT SHOULD BE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.

THAT TAKES ME TO MY NEXT POINT. WE ARE ASKING THAT THE LOT BE LIMITED TO SINGLE-FAMILY.

IT IS NOT AN AREA WHERE YOU WOULD LOCATE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

AGAIN I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT. AND THEY SEEM TO AGREE YOU HAVE TWO LANE ROAD YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT. NY MULTIFAMILY OR HIGH DENSITY IN THAT RESPECT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCATED NEAR -- IS NOT REASONABLE FOR THE AREA.

AND YOU KNOW WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DENSITY AND QUITE FRANKLY, I WAS SURPRISED WHEN C WAS BEING PROPOSED. I THOUGHT MAYBE B WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. THE ROAD THAT WILL GO THROUGH, THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

IT NEEDS TO BE A TRULY RESIDENTIAL ROAD 30 MILES AN HOUR.

STOP SIGNS, TRAFFIC, TERMS LIKE THAT OTHERWISE YOU WILL SET UP A SAFETY HAZARD AND ALL THAT.

BASICALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NO COMMERCIAL SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AND THE CONNECTOR ROAD BE LIMITED IN THAT RESPECT. ON THIS PARTICULAR MAP, THIS IS WHERE WE NEEDED CLARIFICATION IN NUMBER SEVEN THE BUFFERS AROUND A PARTICULAR PROPERTY GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF 50.

NUMBER SEVEN MAYBE SHOULD HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN IT I'M NOT SURE, TOTAL BUFFER WILL BE 50 AND THERE WILL BE HALF-ACRE LOTS SURROUNDING MY PARCELS. BUT THEY ARE NOT SHOWN IN THIS PARTICULAR MAP BECAUSE THEY HAVE CONS THERE AND THEY COULD SUFFICE AS WELL.

AGAIN WE THANK THE APPLICANT FOR DOING THAT. AND I KNOW THAT THE BOARD WILL

DO THE RIGHT THING HERE TODAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT? NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM. YES MA'AM, NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> CATHERINE -- 673 COLLIER ROAD. TO NOT BE REDUNDANT I DO NOT WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME. I JUST REALLY WANT TO SPEAK TO HEALTH SAFETY CONCERNS ON THIS.

ABOUT POSSIBLE PREMATURITY AND LACK OF TRANSPORTATION FOR FIRE RESCUE.

I THINK EARLIER I'M AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN IN ADDITION TO BEING A RESIDENT AND MOTHER OF FOUR. IN THIS AREA, I'VE SEEN A GREAT INCREASE IN THE FIRE RESCUE FACILITIES. AND WE HAVE THEM AT -- ORANGEVILLE, -- COUNTY ROAD 210. REGARDLESS, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THINGS THAT WE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IN OUR EMERGENCIES AND WE ALSO HAVE THREE NEW HOSPITALS BEING BUILT IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AS WELL. BUT THE ACCESS FOR FIRE RESCUE AND OFFICERS AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO GET TO THESE AREAS ARE A PINCH POINTS. I AM NOT DENYING THAT SILVERLEAF HAS PUT IN A NICE FOUR LANE CUT THROUGH. BUT BOTH ON 13 WHEN THE BRIDGE BACKED UP, EVERYONE HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN THOSE NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND WHERE YOU CANNOT PASS ON STATE ROAD 13 WHEN THE BRIDGE HAS AN ACCIDENT OR CONSTRUCTION.

THERE IS THE INTERSECTION OF 13 AND 16, AND WHEN THAT GOES THROUGH THAT WITH THE TRAFFIC FROM PIKE COUNTY COMING IN TO TRY TO GET TO 95, YOU CANNOT PASS TO THE EASILY IN THE MORNINGS OR IN THE AFTERNOON. IT CAUSES A RISK FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS COMING FROM SAN AUGUSTINE AND ALSO GOING TOWARD SAINT AUGUSTINE. REGARDLESS, GETTING IN AND OUT OF HERITAGE LANDING EVERYBODY FOR FIRE RESCUE TRUCK WE DON'T HAVE NICE LARGE HARD PAVEMENT

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BESIDES STATE ROAD 13 OR 16. 16 IS ALREADY DEEMED A FAILING ROAD BETWEEN THE FOUR-LANE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AND SILVERLEAF AND STATE ROAD 13, AND IT'S ALSO FAILING COMING UP INTO MIRABELLA NORTH FROM THE OUTLET CENTER. THOSE INTERSECTIONS ALSO WILL BECOME MAJOR PINCH POINTS WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THE FIRE RESCUE.

YES, IF YOU GET TO THE FOUR-LANE IT HELPS. UNLESS THERE'S A BACKUP 95 WHICH OFTEN HAPPENS FROM THE OUTLET CENTER ALL THE WAY TO 10, A MAJOR ACCIDENT AND YOU SEE HOW EVERYONE DUMPS TO 95 AND BACKS UP SILVERLEAF PARKWAY AS WELL.

I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD CONSIDER THIS IN THE PREMATURITY OF DEVELOPING THIS NUMBER AND THE HIGHER DENSITY AND LIVING IT TO A AND B AT LEAST WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 2030 FOR A LOT OF THESE ROADS AND CONNECTORS TO BE BUILT, TO THINK ABOUT NOT DOING THIS UNTIL THE ROADS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR MEMBERS YES, FIRE RESCUE CAN GET RETURN OR CIRCULATION WAS A TALK ABOUT EARLIER. BUT IF THEY DO NOT GET TO THE HOSPITAL IN TIME, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE YOU CANNOT OPEN UP --

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. >> THANK YOU. >> YES SIR, NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ALVIN JACKSON I LIVE WITH MY WIFE ANNIE JACKSON.

SHE WALKS ALL THE TIME. SHE HAS BEEN IN ELWOOD 68 YEARS.

I'VE ONLY BEEN IN ELWOOD 12 YEARS. BUT I AM A CITIZEN OF ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. I'M ALSO 68 YEARS OLD. MY NEIGHBOR WAS TALKING ABOUT COMPLETELY BLOCKING OFF THE ACCESS TO THE PARK. THAT MEANS THAT I LIVE ON SECOND STREET IT MEANS I WOULD HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO ENTER THE PARK WHERE IT IS SAFER FOR MY WIFE TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THE PARK THAN TO WALK ON THE HIGHWAYS.

WE'VE HAD INCIDENTS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN HIT EXCUSE ME, ON 68 SO I THINK IT IS EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN THE PARK AREA THEN ALONG THE HIGHWAYS WHERE IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. YOU KNOW SO I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY SHUT OFF, I THINK WE SHOULD GET WITH MR. HUDSON AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT BEING ACCESS ONLY TO THE PEOPLE OF ELWOOD SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE TO GET INTO THE PARK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE, MA'AM.

>> BJ -- WEST CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE -- FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT BECAUSE YOU TAKE AWAY

OUR SECONDS TO SPEAK BECAUSE YOU DO WANT TO LISTEN. >> PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS

LIMITED MA'AM. >> JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE NEED TO DENY THIS TRANSMITTAL. DEVELOPER OBVIOUSLY HAS NOT WORKED WITH ALL RESIDENTS. PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. WE SPENT ALMOST 2 HOURS HERE SO FAR. BEFORE YOU GOING TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.

AND I DO WANT TO SAY THAT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE SPOKEN, IT IS GOOD, WE DID GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK THREE MINUTES AND LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SMART AND YOU WILL KNOW WHAT THE ROADS ARE OUT THERE BUT WE WILL BE MAINTAINING IT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR THE ROADS WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT OVER AND OVER. THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND ARE CONCERNED ABOUT COMMERCIAL IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES, ONE PERSON SAID AND I AGREE WITH THE PERSON THAT HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THIS IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE WHERE YOU LIVE? AND IS THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENCES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH DENSITY. WE WILL ALWAYS BE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED THE MONEY I GUESS FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES. IT SHOULD BE DENIED OR WAIT 30 DAYS SO THIS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE RESIDENCE AND THE DEVELOPER CAN BE SOLVED HERE IT

WILL NOT BE SPENDING TWO HOURS FOR THESE HEARINGS. >> THANK YOU.

MR. CHAIRMAN I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR. BACK TO THE APPLICANT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL LOOK FOR THE LITTLE POWERPOINT CLICKER. THANK YOU.

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WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY AND THE RESIDENCE TIME. WE WANT TO CALL UP A COUPLE OF PEOPLE FROM OUR TEAM TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND COMMENTS FROM THE RESIDENCE.

I DO WANT TO START OUT BY SAYING WE HELD NOT ONLY ONE BUT TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT. AND I WILL GO BACK TO OUR POWERPOINT IF YOU DON'T MIND.

AND ALSO, SPOKE TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE TELEPHONE, IN PERSON VIA EMAIL AND ALL OF THAT. THAT IS WHAT LED US TO OUR 12 POINTS AND TECH POLICY THAT WE WERE TO WALK THROUGH AND I WILL NOT BORE YOU WITH AGAIN BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO PARCEL 40 WITH RESPECT TO PROJECT ABSORPTION AND USES AND WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC. I THINK IF YOU WANT TO COME TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND HOW THE TRANSITION OF DENSITY GOES AND THEN JOHN, I MIGHT WANT YOU TO COME AND TALK ABOUT ABSORPTION

AND USE AND THAT WILL GO TO JEFF FOR TRANSPORTATION. >> 20 COMMISSIONERS.

FOR THE RECORD I AM RAY -- 14775 SAN AUGUSTINE ROAD JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA, 32258.

I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING WITH ETM. ALSO CERTIFIED PLANNER IN THE LAST SPRING I WAS ABLE TO GET -- WHICH MEANS I HAVE A BASIC COMPETENCY THE PRINCIPLES OF NEW URBANISM AND SMART GROWTH. I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT HAVING LOWER DENSITY AND SINGLE-USE DEVELOPMENT ON PARCEL 40. I WOULD JUST SUGGEST TO YOU THAT IT WOULD FIT THE DEFINITION OF URBAN SPRAWL. IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF SMART GROWTH.

FROM A COMPATIBILITY STANDPOINT WE ARE PROVIDED BUFFERS ADJACENT TO LARGER LOTS THEN PROVIDED TRANSITION DENSITY PROVIDES COMPATIBILITY ON THE EDGES AND THEN INTERNALLY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE MORE COMPACT MIXED-USE AND WALKABLE. AND WE HAVE IN THIS CASE ONLY A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE A DEMONSTRATED TRACK RECORD OF BUILDING QUALITY SUCH AS THIS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY. ON THE QUESTION OF WHY NOW, WHAT IS THE NEED? WE HAVE SUBMITTED AS PART OF OUR APPLICATION, IS ON RECORD OUR OWN ANALYSIS PROVIDED BUILDING PERMITS, SINGLE-FAMILY BUILDING PERMITS FROM THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUILDERS ASSOCIATION FROM 2019 THERE ARE ABOUT 4077 SINGLE-FAMILY PERMITS ISSUED IN THE COUNTY, 87 PERCENT GO IN NORTHERN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

2020 IT WENT UP TO 4919. AND PROBABLY MORE THIS YEAR. WE KNOW LONG-TERM IT MAY NOT BE THE CASE, WE WILL NOT BE IN THIS ECONOMY FOREVER FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASSUME 3500 PERMITS PER YEAR GOING FORWARD, THEN GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF ENTITLEMENTS WE DONE HER OWN RESEARCH ON, WHAT'S LEFT, IT WOULD GIVE YOU EIGHT YEARS OF GROWTH AND THAT'S IT. THERE IS HIGH DEMAND AND A SHORT SUPPLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S ASSUMING THAT NO MORE ADDITIONAL GROWTH IS PERMITTED.

WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS OR TURN OVER TO JOHN. >> FROM EIGHT SITE PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOTS ALSO, TRANSITION OF DENSITY FROM PARCEL 40 THROUGH DOWN TO PARCEL 41 AND 42, 4142 ARE OBVIOUSLY RESIDENTIAL A WITH THE LARGER EQUESTRIAN

LOTS. >> I'M JOHN METCALF 7549 STATE ROAD 13.

I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF THE HUDSON COMPANIES, HAVE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT SINCE BEFORE IT WAS CONCEIVED. AND WHAT I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THE RATE OF ABSORPTION.

EVEN THOUGH WE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND PLANNING IT SINCE BEFORE 2006, THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY BEGIN TO SELL LOTS, DID NOT OCCUR UNTIL WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION OF AND BONDED THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SILVERLEAF PARKWAY AND ST. JOHN'S PARKWAY AND I THINK IT OCCURRED 2018. SINCE THAT TIME NOW I BELIEVE IT IS ROUGHLY 600 HOMES HAVE ACTUALLY CLOSED BUT BETWEEN CLOSED AND UNDER CONTRACT WE HAVE OVER 5000 LOTS UNDER CONTRACT. IT IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 2500 OF THOSE, WE SELL TO BUILDERS NOT DIRECTLY TO THE RESIDENCE, AND THEN THE BUILDERS BUILD THE HOMES.

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AND WE HAVE, OUR SALES TO BUILDERS WITH ACTUALLY CLOSED OVER 2500 AND GOT ANOTHER 2500 UNDER CONTRACT. AND WE WORKING EVERY DAY TO GET MORE IN THE CONTRACT AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL, HUDSON COMPANIES HAVE JUST STARTED APPROXIMATELY 60,000 SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL FACILITY RIGHT IN FRONT OF SILVERLEAF VILLAGE WHERE THE SILVERLEAF AMENITY CENTER HAS BEEN COMPLETED. WE ARE PLANNING THE SECOND AMENITY CENTER NOW. AND WE'VE GOT, WE SOLD OVER ONE YEAR AGO TO -- THEY ARE COMMITTED TO OPENING A PRIMARY CARE CENTER I THINK BY 2023. AND THEN ACTUAL HOSPITAL AT A LATER DATE. AND WE ARE WORKING ALL THE TIME ON OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.T IS MOVING AS FAST AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. THANK YOU.

>> LAST, WE HAVE -- NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT BUT WE WANT MR. -- TO TALK ABOUT COMMENTS SINCE THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMENT SPECIFICALLY THE COLLECTOR ROADS AND THE PROJECT

WE WILL BE BUILDING. >> MY NAME IS JEFF -- 14775 SAINT AUGUSTINE ROAD.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID ABOUT THE STATE ROAD 13 CONNECTOR AND PUTTING IN SPEED HUMPS, SPEED BUMPS, TRAFFIC -- ON THAT.

RIGHT NOW, THE BRIDGE DUMPS ONTO STATE ROAD 13. WITH WORK FROM SCENIC HIGHWAY, THE STATE HAS AGREED TO MOVE THE FIRST INTERCHANGE TO LONGLEAF PINE.

SO THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM CLAY COUNTY, PUTNAM COUNTY WILL NO LONGER DUMP ON STATE ROAD 13 WHICH IS A GREAT BENEFIT TO EVERYONE IN THE AREA. IT WILL NOT BE COMING DOWN 13 TAKING STATE ROAD 16 AND GOING OVER 95. SO THAT IS A GOOD BENEFIT.

RIGHT NOW, STATE ROAD 16 BETWEEN STATE ROAD 13 AND COUNTY ROAD 16 A IS DEFICIENT.

I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS MY EYES. STATE ROAD 13 CONNECTOR PROVIDES A NICE RURAL TWO-LANE CONNECTOR TAKING YOU UP TO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS OF SILVERLEAF AND -- GIVING PEOPLE A WAY TO GET UP TO THE MAJOR ROADWAYS WITHOUT HAVING TO USE INTERNATIONAL GOLF CART WAY WHICH IS FAILING, WITHOUT USING STATE ROAD 16 WHICH IS FAILING.

IT WILL PROVIDE A VERY GOOD ALTERNATIVE. THE DESTINATIONS ALONG STATE ROAD 13 ARE CHANGING WE WILL NOT DRAW A LOT MORE TRAFFIC AND WAS CURRENTLY COMING OUT ON STATE ROAD 16 COMING BACK THAT WAY. IT IS MORE OF A RELIEVER FOR TRAFFIC ON 13 TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK IN.

INITIALLY DESIGNED AS A COLLECTOR ROAD TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT.

IT WILL HELP FIRE RESCUE, IT GIVES AN ALTERNATE ROUTE OF THEN 22 OR NINE, TO GET TO HERITAGE LANDING. THE TWO-LANE CONNECTOR IS A VERY GOOD REGIONAL FACILITY AND

PROVIDES ACCESS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TODAY AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, OTHERWISE WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE AND WOULD ASK YOU TO RESPECTFULLY APPROVE TRANSMITTAL OF THE APPLICATION

TO THE STATE AGENCIES FOR REVIEW. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

WE ARE BACK TO THE BOARD, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER --

>> MS. AVERY SMITH, I FELT I READ SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AND THE MATERIALS BUT WHAT IS THE DATE OF COMPLETION FOR THE DWELLING UNITS WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY? IS THERE A YEAR THAT'S AN ESTIMATED DATE OF COMPLETION FOR THE PROJECT?

>> OVER ALL OF THE DRI? YES, 2047 IS THE BUILDOUT DATE FOR THE DRI.

AS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED. I WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE WE MENTIONED THERE IS A DRI

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MODIFICATION APPLICATION. AND SO RIGHT NOW THE DRI PROPOSED FOUR PHASES.

>> THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP FOR ME ON YOUR READ OR SAW THAT SOMEWHERE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS CLEAR ON THAT. FOR ME, IT IS THE SITE-SPECIFIC TEXT POLICY COMPELLING TO ME. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I TOO AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT RAPID GROWTH AND GROWTH THAT IS NOT SMARTLY PLANNED BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMBINATIONS THAT ARE MADE THE SITE SPECIFIC TEXT POLICY IS COMPELLING I CANNOT IGNORE THE NEARLY $120 MILLION OUT OF ROADS -- I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THOSE THOUGHTS AS WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION HERE IS A BOARD. QUESTION COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, TO THE DRI DEVELOPMENT PROVIDING A TIMELINE FOR THE ROADS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LOOP, I WILL CALL IT THE LOOP ROAD, IT WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION VERY SOON.

THE FIRST PART OF THE CONNECTOR FROM 16 A TO LOOP ROAD WHICH WILL ALLEVIATE CONGESTION STATE ROAD 16 A WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND STOP BY 2026 AND FINISHED WITHIN TWO YEARS.

THAT IS BUILT INTO THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER AS IS BEING AMENDED .

AND THEN, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT FORTH FOR THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION AS

WELL. >> RIGHT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WILL ALL BE DONE PRIOR TO

PARCEL 40 BEGINNING TO BE DEVELOPED. >> RIGHT.

THE CONNECTOR ROAD FROM 16 A DONNA COUNTY ROAD 13 WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL PARCEL 40 IS DEVELOPED. THE SECOND PARCEL 40 IS DEVELOPED THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION HAS TO BEGIN AND HAS TO BE FINISHED WITHIN TWO YEARS CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. X BRIEFLY, LET ME MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND.

DID YOU SAY END DATE WAS 2047? >> THAT IS WHAT'S PROPOSED BECAUSE IT HAS FOUR PHASES IN IT. SO YES THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT WAS ALWAYS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT OUT OVER TIME. IT'S THE NATURE OF THE DRI. THAT IS WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROPER PLANNING, YOU KNOW A DRI PROVIDES FOR MASTER-PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT MITIGATES FOR ITSELF OVER TIME THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF IT AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN, WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU FOR ADOPTION OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, YOU ALSO SEE THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND PUD. THOSE DOCUMENTS PENDING AND WILL BE MODIFIED TO MATCH THE

TEXT POLICY WE PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT 25 YEARS?

>> CORRECT. >> THAT MAKES SENSE, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY, THIS THE FIRST OF A GAME CHANGER FOR A LOT OF THE AREA.

IT IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BRING A LOT OF INTEREST INTO THE AREA AS WELL AS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. I CAN TELL YOU THAT LISTENING AND GO TO THE 12 CONCESSIONS TODAY IT MADE IT VERY HELPFUL I THINK IT'S IT'S DREAMILY CONSIDERATE OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS AS WELL. WE DO LIKE THE DELAY IN CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE TRAFFIC IS ALLOWED ON THE EXPRESSWAY I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT ITEM.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF A CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE TWO. ACTUALLY GOING FROM 13 ALL THE WAY UP TO ALMOST THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY AS WELL. AND I BELIEVE THE CONSIDERATION OF A CERTAIN DENSITY AND PROXIMITY OF SILVERLEAF PROPER AS WELL AS THE COMING OF THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IS ALSO VERY FITTING. AND WITH THAT MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D BE GLAD TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS TRANSMITTED AND IF YOU ARE

READY. >> I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

WE WILL TAKE THE MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE -- AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I WILL ADJUST THIS TO THE BOARD BEFORE WE VOTE.

I THINK ONE COMPELLING THING IS DEVELOPMENT -- I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WE KNOW AS A BOARD THAT WE HAVE TO CATCH UP WITH SIMILAR INFRASTRUCTURE I THINK IT IS SIGNIFICANT AND SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE GO FORWARD. ALSO THE IMPACT ON THIS ARE REALLY LOOKING AT 25 YEARS BEFORE WE SEE THE FULL IMPACT. THIS IS NOT COMING TOMORROW.

I APPRECIATE THE CONCESSIONS MADE HERE FOR THE RESIDENCE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

[2. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-19 The Guitar Shop. A request to rezone approximately 1.62 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Commercial, Warehouse (CW) to accommodate a guitar build and design shop, specifically located at 1985 State Road 16. This request was heard by the Planning and Zoning Agency at their regularly scheduled public hearing on September 16, 2021, and was unanimously recommended for approval with a vote of 6-0. ]

SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. THIS PASSES FOUR ÃZERO. WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO WE WILL TAKE A BREAK ABOUT NOON. WE'LL SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET INTO WE WILL MOVE ON TO JET THEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, THIS IS REZ 2021 Ã19 THE

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GUITAR SHOP. >> THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL ITEM.

>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS. >> GOOD MORNING, SHANNON ACEVEDO WITH MATTHEWS -- JUST A

SECOND. >> IF WE COULD HAVE EVERYONE GO AHEAD, IF YOU'RE STAYING FOR THE AGENDA ITEM PLEASE TAKE A SEAT, IF YOU'RE NOT, PLEASE EXIT TO THE AUDITORIUM.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE SHANNON ACEVEDO FOR THE RECORD.

WITH MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP. THIS IS THE GUITAR SHOP REZONING.

MY APPLICANT WHO IS ALSO HERE DAVID LEE. THE PROPERTY WE HAVE TODAY FOR YOU IS 1985 STATE ROAD 16 ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS YOU CAN SEE, EAST OF I-95.

ABOUT 1.62 ACRES AND IT WAS PREVIOUSLY THE GERMAN-AMERICAN CLUB.

CURRENTLY, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS MIXED-USE AS YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR IS ALONG STATE ROUTE 16. THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY OPEN RURAL, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A VARIETY OF USES. SOME OF WHICH ARE OPEN RURAL BUT MANY OF WHICH ARE COMMERCIAL.WAREHOUSING, INDUSTRIAL AND VERY INTENSITIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THE REUSE OF THIS BUILDING. AND THE IDEA IS TO REZONE THIS FOR ADOPTION FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR CUSTOM DESIGN BUILD GUITAR SHOP, IT COULD BE EXPANDED IN THE FUTURE BUT THE IMMEDIATE REQUEST IS LOOKING AT REUSING THAT SPACE. THE GERMAN-AMERICAN CLUB WAS A PRIVATE CLUB WHICH IS ALLOWED BY OPEN RURAL ZONING. HOWEVER, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE ARE A LOT OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT COULD READAPT IN THE BUILDING AND OPEN WORLD. THAT WAS TRIGGERING THE NEED FOR THE REZONING TODAY.

IN TERMS OF JUSTIFICATION AND OVERALL COMPATIBILITY, YOU CAN SEE THE AREA IS WITHIN A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FLUCTUATES AROUND THE 360 FOOT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DEPENDING WHERE YOU MEASURE BUT ESSENTIALLY, YOU HAVE GOT JUST OVER 1000 FEET IS SORT OF AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF WHERE THE COMMERCIAL EXTENDS TO ALONG STATE ROAD 16. AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, A LOT OF USES THAT WOULD WORK WELL WITH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE WITH COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE INCLUDING SELF STORAGE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS U-HAUL AND VARIOUS COMMERCIALS SUCH AS BOJANGLES AROUND THE AREA AS WELL. NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE REZONING BUT TO KINDA GIVE YOU A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IS BEING PLANNED IMMEDIATELY. WE ARE LOOKING TO DO PARKING IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL MEET THE LAND DEVELOP MCCHORD REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING IN THE NEW USE. AND IN SUMMARY, THIS REZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MIXED-USE DESIGNATION. IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT AND IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST. I WILL STAND BY FOR ANY

QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> OKAY I THINK QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

WHEN WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT AND ITEM NUMBER TWO. PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR. COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> IF THERE IS NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT I WILL MOVE. MOTION TO ENACT 2021 Ã76 REZONING 2021 Ã19 FOR THE GUITAR SHOP. REQUEST TO REZONE A PROXIMALLY 1.26 ACRES OF LAND FROM OPEN RURAL TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE TO ACCOMMODATE THE GUITAR BUILDING DESIGN SHOP SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 1985 STATE ROAD 16 BASED ON FOUR FUNDS IN FACT PROVIDED IN THE

STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND PAIR.> A MOTION AND SECOND.

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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

[4. Public Hearing * PUD 2021-06 The Approach at Ponte Vedra Beach. A request to rezone approximately 4.3 acres of land from Single Family Residential District (R-1-C) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to allow a mixed-use development that will include a hotel and commercial/office uses. The Ponte Vedra Zoning and Adjustment Board voted 4-1 to recommend denial of PUD21-6 The Approach at Ponte Vedra.]

PASSES FOUR ÃZERO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FIVE HAVE BEEN PULLED LISTED TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

WE WILL GO FROM THERE. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THIS IS PUD 2021 Ã06 APPROACH

AT PONTE VEDRA BEACH. >> ANOTHER QUASIJUDICIAL. >> LET ME FIND NOTES.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ON OCTOBER 14, 2021 AT 8:00 AMI MET WITH MR. -- COUNTY STAFF AND MIKE ROBBERSON ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PARCEL HAD BEEN PARTITIONED AND MANDATE BY JUDGE WE TALKED ABOUT ACCESS REGARDING FDOT AND IN WITH AN INTERSECTION CONDUCIVE TO U-TURNS AND HOW THE PERMIT PROCESS FOR DIRECTION IS LEFT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE SITE LAYOUT AS BEING L-SHAPED AND THE WESTERN PORTION OF A1A.

WE TALKED ABOUT INTENT TO HAVE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL WITH RETAIL RESTAURANTS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. NOT A COMMON RETAIL STRIP MALL BUT ONE THAT WOULD BE UNIQUE TO LAY ON THE THEME OF GOLF AND A DESTINATION SHOPPING AND EATING FACILITY.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE REAR BUILDING, THREE-STORY FLAT ROOF, SITUATED TO CONTAIN NOISE AND LIGHT FROM THE FRONT BUILDING.ALKED ABOUT THE FRONT BUILDING LIKEWISE BEING TWO STORY ROOF AREA USE POTENTIAL, 118 FEET FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WE TALKED ABOUT LANDSCAPING DEPICTIONS PRESENTED, WE SHOWED SOME PICTURES OF DRONE FOOTAGE AT SEVERAL ELEVATIONS WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT EXTENSIVE VEGETATION TO THE WEST.

WE DISCUSSED ALL NINE POTENTIAL WAIVERS ONE OF THEM BEING REMOVED AND ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC BENEFIT AT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES VALUE AS WELL AS REVIEW OF REVENUE.

THAT CONCLUDES MY DISCLOSURE, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU MR. SMITH.

VICE CHAIR? >> YES THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14, 1 O'CLOCK I MET WITH MICHAEL HERZENBERG GOING OVER THE PROJECT. BASICALLY WE COVERED ALL THE POINTS MR. SMITH RELATED TO. ALSO RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS SUPPORTING OUR RECOMMENDATION OF OR OPPOSING THE PROJECT AND I MET, I DON'T HAVE THE DATE IN FRONT OF ME BUT JANE ROBBERSON, MET WITH ME AND BRIEFED ME ON THE PROJECT AND POINTED OUT IT WOULD BE COMING TO US FOR

CONSIDERATION. >> I LIKEWISE MENTIONED I DID MEET WITH JEAN I DID NOT HAVE A DATE. I APOLOGIZE. I MET WITH HER AS WELL.

SHE COVERED FIVE THINGS AND ONE OF THEM WAS THIS. >> THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 18, 1230 PANAMA MET WITH MR. HERZBERG, -- FROM ACCOUNTING WE DISCUSSED THE COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS, WE ADDRESSED THE NOISE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE JUST THE NEED FOR THE LAYOUT OF THESE BUILDINGS, BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE SHAPE OF THE PARCELS, WE ADDRESSED THE BUFFERING, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TURN LANES AND I TOO RECEIVED EMAILS FOR AND AGAINST THE PROJECT. I TOO MET WITH JANE TO DISCUSS A NUMBER OF ITEMS, THIS WAS ONE OF THEM AND SHE SHARED HER CONCERNS WITH ME AS WELL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I MET WITH JANE ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 23 APPROXIMATELY 3:00 P.M., SHE MET WITH ME AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND ALSO RAISED CONCERNS OF THE PROJECT WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WAIVERS AND CONCERNS OF SOME OF THE RESIDENCE, ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14 APPROXIMATE 11:00 A.M. MR. MICHAEL HERZENBERG REGARDING THE PROJECT WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND THE TRAFFIC, MITIGATION THAT THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED ON AS WELL AS SOME WAIVERS AND IMPACT AND LOCAL RESIDENTS AS WELL. WE ALSO DISCUSSED SAFETY CONCERNS AND SOME OF THE GROWTH PATTERNS FROM JACKSONVILLE BEACH TO THE DIFFERENT NATURE CHARACTER EVENTS.HAT

COMPLETES DISCLOSURES. >> AND I APOLOGIZE IT DID NOT HAVE THIS EARLY I MET WITH MS.

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JANE ROBBERSON AS WELL AS STAFF SEPTEMBER 30 AT 1:00 P.M.. THIS WAS THE THIRD ITEM THAT SHE ADDRESSED AND GAVE A FITTING OUTLINE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PUBLIC RECORD AS WELL.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO SIT WITH YOU AND SHARE ABOUT THE PROJECT I MICHAEL HERZENBERG. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT OF -- ENTERPRISES THIS IS A PROJECT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

HE STARTED A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS AGO LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY.

JUST AFTER THE PARTITION AND TRYING TO FIND WHAT WOULD WORK ON THE SIDE.

AND REALY WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE THE BULLETS AND PALLETS OVER THERE TO THE LEFT THIS IS A GREAT AERIAL KIND OF LOOKING BACK TO THE WEST THE SITE IS DEPICTED IN RED HAS TO BE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE MAJOR INTERCHANGE OF BUTLER AND A1A BACKS UP TO THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER EXTENDING TOWARD THE WEST AS WELL. WILL JUMP BACK A LITTLE BIT THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE. SPECIFICALLY HERE, THE GRAY BUILDING THAT YOU SEE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH IN THIS DEPICTION IS THE TARGET BUILDING.

THE OTHER BUILDING THAT YOUR SAME BETWEEN THAT AND THE PROJECT IS THE RECENTLY APPROVED SELF STORAGE FACILITY DEVELOPED OR TO BE DEVELOPED APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT, 2.3 ACRE SITE TO OUR NORTH WHICH IS A PART OF THIS PROPERTY ORIGINALLY AS WE DISCUSSED.

AND THEN THIS IS OUR SITE HERE THE TWO BUILDINGS SOME OF THE COMMENT YOU MADE AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH. AGAIN, LOOKING AT THIS LOCATION REALLY PROMPTED US TO SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES DEEPER STUDY.

WE'D BEEN APPROACHED BY THE USUAL SUSPECTS MIGHT AFFECT THE SELF STORAGE APPROVED ON THE PROPERTY NEXT TO US ACTUALLY CAME TO US FIRST. WE WERE NOT INTERESTED IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WAS BEFITTING OF THE ENTRANCE TO PONTE VEDRA AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY. SIMILARLY WE WERE APPROACHED BY GAS STATIONS, CONVENIENCE CENTERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, EVEN BANKS. GENERIC OFFICE WAS SOMETHING WE STARTED TO CONSIDER REALLY AGAIN, WAS NOT APPROPRIATE AND WE DIDN'T THINK REPRESENTED THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY. ULTIMATELY, LET ME THROW IN THE LAST TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM IT COULD NOT BE DONE ON THE OTHER PROPERTY BECAUSE OF A POSITIVE DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT CAME TO US AS WELL. AND AGAIN IT IS NOT WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE ENTRANCE TO THIS COUNTY INTO PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

WENT TO SOMETHING BETTER MORE OF A HIGH-END PROJECT. A PROPER APPROACH TO PONTE VEDRA BEACH. REALLY, WHAT WE FOUND WAS A LACK OF HOSPITALITY.

UPSCALE HOSPITALITY OR TRANSIENT RESIDENTIAL USES. ALL THE HOTELS APPEAR TO BE GOING TO JACKSONVILLE. THE NEW ELEMENT HOTEL, THERE'S ALSO THE NEW MARGARITAVILLE HOTEL THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETED AND NOW A BRAND-NEW HILTON OVER THERE AT MAYO CLINIC.

YOU'RE SEEING ALL THE HOTELS CONGAREE INTO THE DUVAL COUNTY AREA TAKING WHERE YOUR TAX DOLLARS AND EFFECTIVELY REDUCING YOUR ABILITY TO TAKE INCOME UNDER YOUR RECENTLY APPROVED INCREASE IN THE BED TAX. SO, THIS HUGE LOSS OF REVENUE IN THE COUNTY IS INTERESTING AND CONCERNING OBVIOUSLY AND SHOULD BE.

ESPECIALLY SINCE IS THE SAME COMMISSION THAT HAD THE FORESIGHT ANDAPPLY -- APPLAUD A OF YOU FOR COMMERCIAL USES. HISTORICALLY IN MY 30 YEARS OF PRACTICE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND THE DUVAL COUNTY AND YOUR AREA, IT HAS ALWAYS SORT OF STOLEN THE GOOD STUFF, AND LEFT THE RESIDENTIAL AS YOU READ EARLIER TO COMMUTE BACK INTO THE JOBS IN DUVAL COUNTY.

WE THOUGHT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, A BOUTIQUE STYLE HOTEL, AND ASSOCIATED RETAIL THAT WOULD PLAY OFF THAT BOUTIQUE STYLE HOTEL. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION AND AGAIN, REDUCE KIND OF THE CONTINUOUS TRIP THAT HAS TO OCCUR IF SOMEONE IS WANTING TO BE DOWN HERE FOR THE LOVELY GOLF TOURNAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE TO STAY IN THE DUVAL COUNTY HOTEL AND COME BACK AND FORTH, IT ADDS ADDITIONAL TRIPS TO YOUR A1A CORRIDOR AND BACK TO YOUR FOLKS AND THAT WAY YOU DO HAVE SOME HOTELS IN THE AREA, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL TELLS ON THE BEACH THAT THE PATENT FAMILY OWNS, THE MARRIOTT SAWGRASS AND THE HILTON GARDEN INN BUT AGAIN, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING IN THE BOUTIQUE STYLE HOTEL THEY ARE EITHER VERY LIMITED, VERY FULL-SERVICE OR LIKE THE HILTON GARDEN INN, NORMALLY BROUGHT 4 TO 6 STORY BUILDING 200+ UNITS, BECAUSE OF THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE LOWER RATES FOR THOSE HOTEL ROOMS. AGAIN, NOT WHAT WE WANTED AND NOT WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE HERE.

DONE RIGHT WITH ABOUT 120 ROOM BOUTIQUE HOTEL, WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IMPACT FEES AROUND $614,000 COMING INTO THE COUNTY AS PART OF THE BUILD OUT. THE TOTAL TAX REVENUES THE

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ANNUAL RECURRING PROJECTED REVENUES WOULD BE ABOUT $514,000.

AGAIN, COME TO THE COUNTY IN THE WAY OF TAXES FROM THE PROJECT.

HALF OF THAT IS ACTUALLY COMING FROM THE FIVE PERCENT BED TAX RECENTLY PASSED BY THE COMMISSION. IT WILL BE VERY STRONG COMPONENT TO AID IN THAT AND HELP SUPPORT THAT. OBVIOUSLY, UNLIKE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITHOUT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING IMPACT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALSO JOHN THE 200,000 RIGHT THERE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD BENEFIT FROM, AND REMEMBER COMMERCIAL UNLIKE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL UNLIKE RESIDENTIAL TYPICALLY PROVIDES MORE IN REVENUE IN THE WAY OF TAXES THAN THEY CONSUME, THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL HOME THIS IS PROVEN IN NUMEROUS STUDIES WHICH I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE TO YOU CONSUMES ABOUT A DOLLAR AND 36 CENTS OF PUBLIC SERVICES FOR EVERY DOLLAR A GENERATION REVENUE. IT'S KIND OF A NEGATIVE IN THAT REGARD IT IS CONSUMING RESOURCES WHEREAS RETAIL IS DEMONSTRATED TO HAVE BEEN ABOUT $0.36 OF EVERY DOLLAR CONTRIBUTES. OBVIOUSLY DEVOL HAS CAPTURED THE COMMERCIAL CONTINUALLY AND STOLEN THE REVENUE. THIS IS AGAIN AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY BRING BACK THE COUNTY AND PONTE VEDRA BEACH SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS, I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME BUT THERE WOULD BE ON SITE JOBS AND WAGES OBVIOUSLY LONG-TERM AND ONGOING BUSINESS OPERATIONS WOULD GENERATE REVENUE AND ALSO PROVIDE JOBS FOR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO JUMP INTO THE SITE HERE AND SAY THE APPROACH SEEKS TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PONTE VEDRA BEACH. WE SEE THIS AS WELL AS ST. JOHNS COUNTY ESTABLISHED TRADITION OF GOLF AND THE COMING OF THE PROJECT ITSELF HAS A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT WILL SHOW THAT RELATE TO THAT BUT AGAIN, ARE THE FOCUS OF THE SLIDE HERE TO SHOW THE MASS AND SCALE OF OUR PRODUCT IN RELATION TO THOSE AROUND IT. AGAIN I'VE INCLUDED FOR PURPOSES OF THE DEPICTION THE RECENTLY APPROVED SELF STORAGE BUILDING WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE GROUND FLOOR ABOUT 35,000 SQUARE FEET, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE APPROVED ABOUT 108,000 SQUARE FEET ON 2.3 ACRES. THEN YOU CAN SEE REPORTED TO THE SOUTH YOU CAN SEE THE TWO SMALLER BUILDINGS THE GREEN SPACE, THE GREENERY AROUND THE PROJECT WHICH AGAIN, AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY TO BEFORE AN INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, WE REALLY SAT DOWN AND DID SOME SITE DESIGN WORK, TRY TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A MIXED-USE PROJECT THAT WOULD ORIENT THINGS TO THE INSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND OFFER MORE THAN JUST THE PEOPLE AT THE HOTEL, A PLACE FOR RESIDENTS OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH AS WELL AS THE COUNTY TO COME AND ENJOY THE OUTDOORS ENJOY THE RETAIL BUT YET BE IN THEIR OWN BACKYARDS.

THE GREEN SPACE AGAIN IS A THEME IN THE PROJECT IT ISN'T JUST AN AREA OR OUTSIDE AREA FOR THE RETAIL, YOU WILL SEE IN THE RENDERINGS IN A BIT. IT IS DESIGNED TO SOFTEN THE BUILDINGS TO BE A SENSE A PLACE TO INCREASE DWELL TIME IN ASSOCIATION WITH RETAIL IS NOT A HIGH-END OR HIGH TURNOVER TYPE RETAIL. IT IS MORE OF A PLACE WHERE YOU GO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A COFFEE, MAYBE THE KIDS ARE PLAYING IN THE GREEN SPACE AREA YOU MAY BE OVER THERE FOR DINNER, THERE MIGHT BE A PAVILION SET UP FOR WEDDING ON THE GREEN AREA, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE WE WILL COME TO SOME OF THAT IN A MINUTE.

LET'S GO RIGHT INTO THE SITE DESIGN AND YOU CAN SEE THE GOLF TEAM VERY CLEARLY HERE AS YOU START BENEATH BUILDING 100 WHICH IS A BUILDING ORIENTED EAST-WEST IN THE DRAWING.

YOU HAVE THE T BOX THE FAIRWAY, THE GREEN AND THE TURF. ULTIMATELY THAT CULMINATES AND WHAT IS SITS ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, IT IS THE EAGLES NEST, A SMALL SORT OF PRIVATE AREA DESIGNED FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS FOR THE HIGHER-END RESTAURANTS THAT WE THINK WILL COME HERE. AND I WILL SAY, WE'VE HAD AN OVERWHELMING INTEREST BY BOTH NATIONAL HIGH-END RESTAURANT AS WELL AS LOCAL PURVEYORS IN THE MARKET THAT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN DOING A VERY HIGH-END THEMED RESTAURANT FOR THIS LOCATION.

WE WOULD ALSO EXPECT TO INCLUDE WITH THIS KIND OF A MIX OF RETAILERS SUCH AS DELI, COFFEE AND NOT DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE BUT RATHER A TRUE COFFEE CONCEPT, YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF NEW VENDORS COME OUT WITH COFFEE PLACES THAT ARE REALLY A LITTLE MORE DISTINGUISHED THAN JUST THE STARBUCKS. THEY MIGHT EVEN OFFER A GLASS OF WINE AT NIGHT IN THE EVENINGS KIND OF THING SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN RELAX AND ENJOY AFTER A LONG DAY OR GET YOUR CUP OF COFFEE AND GO BACK TO THE HOTEL OR FOR THAT MATTER JUST ENJOY A CUP OF COFFEE WHILE THE KIDS PLAY ON THE GREEN. SIMILAR TO THAT WE WOULD SEE DESSERT BARS, ESCROW SHOPS MAY BE JEWELRY STORES. AGAIN, THINGS THAT WOULD APPEAL NOT ONLY TO HOTEL GUESTS, KEEPING THEM ON THE PROPERTY, CAPTURING THEM AND ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR THEM TO HAVE TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY TO GO AND GET SOME OF THE SERVICES, AS WELL AS OFFERING IT TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY TO COME AND STAY IN ENJOY THOSE THINGS.

BUILDING 200 IS ACTUALLY THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL BUILDING AS YOU SEE OVER THERE.

KIND OF RUNNING NORTH SOUTH IN THE PROJECT AND AGAIN, BOUTIQUE HOTEL YEARS HAVE BEEN BASICALLY

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KNOCKING DOWN OUR DOORS WHEN WE ANNOUNCED WE WERE INTERESTED IN PURSUING SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE. AGAIN, THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY BOUTIQUE HOTELS IN THE MARKET, YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF MAJOR CITIES AND AREAS COME UP WITH THESE NEW CONCEPTS, THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL POINT TRAVELER GOING FROM PLACE TO PLACE IT IS SOMEBODY LOOKING FOR A WEEKEND AWAY AND REALLY WANT A LITTLE MORE UPSCALE EXPERIENCE AS PART OF THEIR STAY.

THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS WOULD BE ABOUT 120 ROOMS FOR THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

WHICH IS AGAIN, FITTING WITH THE BOUTIQUE. ANY MORE THAN THAT GETS TO BE TOO MUCH FOR THEM. ANY LESS BECOMES A BIT OF A PROBLEM.

ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AS YOU HAVE LESSER ROOMS NEED TO HAVE A HIGHER ROOM RATE TO OFFSET THAT YOU HAVE LESS SPACE TO RENT. THERE WILL BE NO BALCONIES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AGAIN, PROTECTING AND THINKING ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WHICH EXISTS TOWER WEST. AND NO LOADING OR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ALONG THE AREA AS WELL. SO AGAIN TRYING TO KEEP THE BACK OF THE HOUSE SO TO SPEAK VERY QUIET AND CLEAN. WHEN YOU LOOK AT FROM AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF US. MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THERE, PARKING LOTS AND OTHER DUMPSTERS. UNFORTUNATELY, BUT AGAIN WE BELIEVE THE SCREENING THAT EXIST AS PART OF OUR PROJECT AND ON THEIR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD MITIGATE FOR SUCH IMPACT. I CANNOT TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR THE NEXT SLIDES. BUT MY BOSS, WHO IS WORKING ON THE PROJECT WITH ME HAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED THESE SPACES. VARIOUS LOCATIONS OF BOSTON AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THESE ARE REAL PROJECTS THAT HE HAS DONE.

THIS IS KIND OF WHERE THE GREEN SPACE THEME CAME FROM HIS EXPERIENCE IN DOING THESE.

YOU CAN SEE THE USE OF THE SPACE BY FAMILIES, MAYBE CORPORATE EVENTS OUT HERE.

JUST PROVIDES SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T REALLY FIND IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH AT THIS TIME.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT IN DUVAL EITHER TO BE HONEST. THE FACT REMAINS IT REALLY ADDS TO THE PROJECT AND SEPARATES IT FROM THE NORMAL RETAIL OR MIXED-USE PROJECT IN THAT REGARD. THIS SHOULD BE THE GREEN AREA AGAIN I CAN SEE -- OUT HERE DURING THE GOLF TOURNAMENT, AGAIN YOU CAN SEE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WALKING, STROLLING AND ENJOYING THE EVENING. THIS WOULD BE THE TURN AREA THE ACTIVATION AGAIN, THE SPACE.

THIS IS BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. RATHER THAN JUST HAVE THE BUILDING SO THEY CAN SEE THE RENDERINGS HOW WE ARE TRYING TO INCORPORATE THEM.

WE WANT THAT AREA TO BE ACTIVE AS WELL. WE WANT PEOPLE TO ENJOY THE STROLL AND THE TIME ALONG THE PATH. ULTIMATELY, SOME ACTIVATION OF THE ROOFTOP. WE'LL GET TO DISCUSSION OF THE EAGLES NEST A MINUTE BUT THIS WOULD BE A NOMINAL AREA ON THE SURFACE OF THE FRONT BUILDING THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME OUTDOOR SPACE FOR PRIVATE PARTIES OR EVENTS. IT WOULD REALLY SEPARATE FROM MOST OF THE OTHER RESTAURANTS. IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH. OBVIOUSLY IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO -- OR ANYTHING OF THE NATURE WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUTDOORS.

IT IS MORE QUIET RESERVED AND INTERMITTENT USE. AT THE ARCHITECTURAL CONTEXT WE USED A GERMAN BY THE NAME OF MATT MITCHELL. MATT IS AN INCREDIBLE ARCHITECT, HE'D BEEN WITH MAKEFIELD BEASLEY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

SPENT A CONS-- CONSIDERABLE AMO OF TIME IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY.

RESEARCH THE HISTORY OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH AS WELL. IT STEMS BACK TO ITALY I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT BUT IT'S NEWS TO ME. HE TRIED TO USE INFLUENCES FROM ITALY AS WELL AS PONTE VEDRA BEACH AND ARCHITECTURE THAT EXIST TO DESIGN A PROJECT THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE PONTE VEDRA BEACH COASTAL CORRIDOR, NOT JUST TO FIT IN OR PUSH AND MORE RETAIL BUT AGAIN TO ENHANCE AND PROVIDE MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE NEXT SIGH WOULD ACTUALLY BE A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT LOOKING TO THE WEST. THIS IS NOW INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT.E ARE LOOKING AT THE HOTEL THE SETTING SUN IS TO THE WEST.

HE SAID GREEN SPACE ACTIVATION, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE KIOSK WOULD NECESSARILY BE THERE BUT YOU MIGHT NEED SOME SHADE ONCE IN A WHILE SO THEY WILL BE BREAKUP OF THE GREEN SPACE.

BUT YOU SEE THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, INTENDED TO BE A FIRST-CLASS RETAIL FACILITY. I WOULD PUT THAT UP AGAINST ANYTHING IN THE TOWN CENTER RIGHT NOW TO BE HONEST. I THINK IT IS NICER AND I BELIEVE THE SMALLER SCALE OF THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE THE GREEN AREA WHERE THE RETAIL AND DINING COME TOGETHER.

THERE'S OUTDOOR DINING THAT COMES TOGETHER OUT FRONT.

ANHE FOLKS TO ENJOY THE GREEN SPACE AND THE VIEW.

CONTINUING ON WITH THE RENDERINGS, THIS WOULD BE AN EASTWARD VIEW. LOOKING FROM THE HOTEL BACK TOWARDS THE TEE BOX. YOU SEE IN THE LEFT-HAND CORNER WHAT IS PROPOSED AS THE EAGLE'S NEST.

THE AREA IS FAIRLY NOMINAL. 20 FEET BY 60 FEET AT THE MOST.

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YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A GREAT DEAL OF OUTDOOR SPACE, BUT SOMETHING AGAIN WE FEEL A RESTAURANT WOULD REALLY RELISH, ESPECIALLY A TRUE, HIGH-END RESTAURANT TO USE FOR A GATHERING SPACE. NOT BEING OPEN ALL THE TIME OR A REGULAR USER. NOTICE THE INVITING NATURE OF THE DESIGN. THIS PROMOTES THE PEDESTRIAN FEELING. WALKING FROM OUR HOTEL OVER TO GET A DESSERT, JUST ENJOYING THE OUTSIDE.

MOVING ON TO THE TURN, THIS IS THE AREA BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. WE FEEL THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING WAY OF KIND OF BRINGING TWO STRUCTURES TOGETHER.

AN ELEVATED BRIDGE THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO TRAVERSE THAT COMING OVER TOWARD THE DINING FACILITIES.

BECAUSE THIS WILL BE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL, THEY TYPICALLY DO NOT HAVE RESTAURANTS AND FEEL ONE OR TWO RESTAURANTS MIGHT BE OF USE HERE PROVIDING THE DAY TIME TYPE OF DINING AS WELL AS THE EVENING WHICH WOULD BE AGAIN THE HIGHER SCALE RESTAURANT.

BUT ULTIMATELY, QUALITY DESIGN, LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS AND A PEDESTRIAN FOCUS. THIS IS NOT A STANDARD RETAIL CENTER. THIS WOULD BE LOOKING FROM THE INSIDE OF THE HOTEL. PROBABLY IN THE LOBBY AREA JUST LOOKING BACK AND YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE GREEN IN THE BUILDING SAYS, IN THE AREAS AND WE'RE PROVIDING ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING AJACE ENLT -- ADJACENT TO THE AREA TO ENHANCE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT. LET'S MOVE ON OUT TO THE APPROACH OR THE APPROACH OF THE APROACH.

WHICH WOULD BE THE ENTRY DRIVE FROM A 1 A.

THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM A1 A LOOKING BACK AT THE PROJECT. NOTICE THE NATURE OF THE SITE AND WE WILL GET INTO THE SITES ISSUES AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY ITSELF, AGAIN YOU'RE SEEING A NARROW FOCUS BACK INTO THE HOTEL. IT'S PUSHED BACK ABOUT 400 FEET FROM A 1 A AND YOU SEE THE RETAIL AND THE EAGLES NEST UP THERE. WE INTEND TO MEET AND OR EXCEED THE LANDSCAPE REGULATIONS. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO THE CYPRUS SHOWN THERE AND THE RED CEDAR IS A PERMITTED TREE.

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF TREE DEPICTED WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL PLAN SUBMITTED. THAT TREE WILL BE USED THROUGHOUT AND TRYING TO CONVEY THE THEME OF THE ITALIAN NATURE OF THE PONTE VEDRA AND THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

AGAIN, PART OF THE REASON WE'RE SCREENING THE OUTDOOR SIDE OF IT WITH SO MUCH LANDSCAPING IS TO TRY TO CREATE THE INWARD FOCUS.

WE WANT THIS TO BE A DESTINATION.

SOMETHING THAT AS YOUR TRAVELLING ALONG A1 A, YOU SEE AND SAY I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS IN THERE AND I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. FOR THE LOCAL ALIKE.

THE ENHANCED PHYSICAL APPEARANCE PROMOTES LANDSCAPING AND A PROJECT THAT SERVES TO ENHANCE THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE A 1 A ESPECIALLY WITH RELATION TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TO THE EAST. YOU'RE NOW OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT TREES. THERE'S HOMELESS ISSUES WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD WITH THE OWNER TO STOP.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE HOPE WILL GO AWAY AND OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE A MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE VIEW SHED FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

MOVING ON TO ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES HERE.

JUST A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH. GIVING YOU THE SENSE OF SCALE.

YOU CAN NOW SEE THE FACE OF BUILDING 100.

THE REASON I'M SHOWING THESE WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THE WAIVERS YOU WILL BE SEEING IN A FEW MINUTES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, EVEN FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIGHT OF THERE'S NOT A GREAT DEAL OF VISIBILITY AND THE DESIGN.

I WANT TO MOVE TO DRONE IMAGERY. TO MAKE SURE TO BE CONSIDERATE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY THE EFFECTED NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST OF US. WE RAN DRONE IMAGERY.

YOU CAN SEE AT 30 FEET. I WILL GO THROUGH FAIRLY QUICKLY. ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE MULTITWO STORY. 35 FEET YOU CAN'T SEE OVER THE TREES ON THE SITE OR INSIDE THE SITE OR THE TREES ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. GOING UP TO 40 FEET.

YOU STILL CAN'T SEE ANYTHING THERE TO THE WEST.

OBVIOUSLY WITH THE LANDSCAPING INSTALLED ON THE EASTERN SIDE, YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING PAST THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY ON THE EAST SIDE OF A 1 A.

AT 50 FEET, NOTHING WILL BE 50 FEET.

THE TALLEST IS 35 FEET. YOU'RE JUST STARTING TO SEE THE ROOF TOPS. I DID GO OUT AND MEASURE THE

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BUILDING. I HAVE A READING OF 35 FEET USING A LAZOR DEVICE. THE GENTLEMEN PUTTING THE STUCCO ON IT SAID HE THOUGHT IT WAS 35 FEET BECAUSE HIS LATTICE WORK COULDN'T GET UP THAT HIGH. THOSE ARE TALL BUILDINGS AS MEASURED TO THE TOP OF CHIMNEY AREAS, 50 FEET IS 15 FEET HIGHER THAN THE ROOF OF OUR BEFORE, CLEARLY HIGHER THAN ANYONE ELSE VIEW SHED AND YOU STILL DON'T HAVE LOOMING EFFECT OR LOOKING DOWN INTO THE SITE. THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE.

AND AGAIN I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY ALLUDE TO THE HISTORY OF THIS AS I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH EACH OF YOU.

THIS WAS A PARTITION. THIS WAS NOT OUR CHOOSING.

THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT CHOSEN BY US AT ALL.

CONTRARY TO, THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE SELF STORAGE WAS ACTUALLY CLOSEN.

IN THE PARTITION PROCESS, WE ASKED THE JUDGE SELL THE ENTIRE PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY PUTTING ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS AND LET ANYONE COME TO BID FOR IT AND WE WOULD GET OUR MONEY OUT THAT WE INVESTED WITH OUR PARTNERS.

UNFORTUNATELY, DIDN'T SEE FIT TO DO SO.

HE SEPARATED THE PROPERTY. THE OTHER SIDE ELECTED THEY WANTED THE NORTH SIDE. WE GOT THE BIGGER PIECE OF THE PROPERTY. LOOKING FROM A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE.

COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS AND EVEN THE COUNTY AGREES THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL.

IT'S A TOUGH SITE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS DISTANT FROM THE ROADWAY

>> HIDDEN FROM THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, DOESN'T LEAVE A LOT OF ROOM. SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO HERE IS WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE PONTE VEDRA OVER LAY TO BRING A PROJECT SECOND TO NONE THAT REALLY ADDS SOMETHING IS BRINGS NOW INTEREST. I WILL STEP AWAY AND MR. SHELTON

WILL ADDRESS THE WAIVERS. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. SHELTON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

IT'S AFTERNOON NOW NOT MORNING. MY NAME IS MARK SHELTON.

MY ADDRESSES 1204 WEST GRAND WAY PARK WEST.

AND I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE SLEIMAN ENTERPRISES WORKING ON THIS SPECIAL PROJECT. I WILL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE AS WE TALK ABOUT THE NINE WAIVERS WE ARE REQUESTING.

THE UNIQUE SHAPE HAS CAUSED A LOT OF THIS.

ALSO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY EXPANSION ON A 1 A TAKEN PROPERTY OUT OF THIS HAS ALSO CAUSED THESE WAIVERS AND SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE CODES IN OVERLAYS WE HAVE TODAY DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THESE UNIQUE HARDSHIPS IN MAKING DEVELOPMENT AND INFILL PARCELS SUCH AS THIS AS DIFFICULT AND PROJECTS SUCH AS THE VERANDA AND SAWGRASS VILLAGE WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE CODES THE WAY THEY ARE TODAY. SO THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZES WHAT I JUST MENTIONED. SO THE FIRST WAIVER IS FOR DEVELOPMENT AREA COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AREA.

THE CODE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, THE OVERLAY SPEAKS TO THE LIMIT OF COMMERCIAL AREA FOR 10,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE.

WE DO NOT BELIEVE HOTELS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL.

BOTH USES HAVE PEOPLE SLEEPING THERE AND DON'T WANT TO BE DISTURBED OR HAVE NOISE. IF THE HOTEL WAS CONSIDERED NOT RESIDENTIAL, THE WAY IT IS IN THE CODE FOR IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA. TRIP GENERATION, IMPACT FEES AND MORE, WE WOULD MEET THE AREA RESTRICTIONS.

IN FACT, WE'RE PUTTING LANGUAGE IN THE MDP TEXT THAT SAYS IF THIS IS USED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN A HOTEL, THIS SITE WILL MEET THIS REQUIREMENT AND THE WAIVER WILL NOT BE REQUIRED.

THE SECOND WAIVER IS FOR BUILDING LENGTH.

THE CODE SPEAKS TO AGAIN THE OVERLAY THAT SPEAKS TO THE BUILDING LENGTH MAXIMUM OF 120 LINEAR FEET.

AND THIS IS TO BREAK UP THE MONOTONY OF THE OLDER STRIP CENTERS. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT FOR THIS ONE. WE ARE PUSHING THIS BUILDING BACK OVER 400 FEET. WHICH REDUCES THE SIGHT LINE OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO BREAKING IT UP WITH AESTHETIC FEATURES AND THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING BEING COVERED BY BUILDING 100

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AND THE OFFICE. VERY LITTLE PART OF THE BUILDING WILL BE VISIBLE FROM A 1 A. THIS REITERATES WHAT I WAS SAYING FROM THIS VIEW WHAT MIKE SHOWED YOU EARLIER IN THE POSITION OF THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH.

BUILDING 100 AS WELL AS BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTH.

YOU CAN ONLY SEE A PARTIAL PART OF THE BUILDING.

THE THIRD WAIVER IS FOR THE SETBACK.

ACCORDING TO THE OVER LAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 150 FOOT SETBACK FOR ANY BUILDING OVER TWO STORIES.

FROM ANY LINE AND ZONING LINE THAT'S DEPICTED AS COMMERCIAL.

I MEAN RESIDENTIAL. THE APARTMENTS TO OUR WEST ARE LAKE VIEW VILLAGE APARTMENTS. THEIR DENSITY IS 12 UNITS PER ACRE. PRETTY MUCH THE HIGHEST YOU CAN GET IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY WHICH IS 13.

WE ACTUALLY AS YOU CAN SEE, WE PUT A RED ARROW TO SHOW WHERE 150 LINE WOULD BE MAKING ONE THIRD OF OUR PROPERTY UNDEVELOPABLE AS YOU CAN SEE. THERE'S A FOUR FOOT WALL HERE.

WE WILL SHOW THAT IN A MINUTE AND ALSO LANDSCAPING ON BOTH SIDES THAT RIGHT NOW MEET THE 100%.

WE WOULD GUARANTEE TO MEET THE 100% OPACITY WITH LANDSCAPING.

HERE'S THE SITE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND IT.

YOU HAVE 140 FEET OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.

BETWEEN THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, MULTIFAMILY, 35 FEET HIGH AND OUR PROPOSED BUILDING, 140 FEET.

YOU HAVE A FOUR FOOT WALL, MATURE TREES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BUFFER AND THE PROPERTY LINE.

WE WILL GUARANTEE 100% OPACITY AS LONG AS THIS PROJECT IS HERE.

THE FOURTH WAIVER IS DONE OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S NOT WARRANTED. THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE OVER LAY.

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES 35 FOOT SCENIC EDGE.

THE OVER LAY SAYS 20. PER THE CODE, IF THEY'RE NOT IN CONFLICT, THE PONTE VEDRA OVER LAY SHOULD PREVAIL.

20 FEET WOULD BE CONSISTENT TO THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH AND CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE DEVELOPED ON A 1 A. WE KEPT IT IN THERE IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. THE 5TH WAIVER IS FOR FILL.

ANY SITE DEVELOPED IN THE PONTE VEDRA OVER LAY HAS TO ASK FOR A WAIVER IF THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN FILL.

IN THIS CASE, WE'RE ONLY ASKING TO FILL THE PROPERTY TO THE POINT WHERE IT MEETS WATER MANAGEMENT STANDARDS.

WE'RE NOT ASKING TO INCREASE OUR HEIGHT.

ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MEET WITH THE DRAINAGE STANDARDS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE COLOR CODED TO SEE HOW ORANGE IT IS, THE DEEPER THE BOWL.

SEVEN FEET WOULD BE OFF TO THE SOUTH.

AND EIGHT FEET WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE.

THIS IS SHOWING THE BOWL EFFECT OF THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S DEEP AND GOING TO NEED FILL.

THE SIXTH AND SEVENTH WAIVER FOR SIGNAGE.

BECAUSE OUR PROPERTY IS 4.3 ACRES, AND NOT FIVE, WE'RE LIMITED TO 35 SQUARE FEET OF MONUMENT SIGN UP FRONT.

THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WHICH REQUIRES MORE SIGNAGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE USER WHO IS WANT TO BE SEEN OFF A 1 A.

IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY EXPANSION, THE LITIGATION WE WOULD HAVE THE MINIMUM FIVE ACRES REQUIRED FOR THE 80 FEET WE'RE ASKING TODAY. THIS IS A HARDSHIP WE ALLUDED TO. THE NEXT ONE IS FOR WALL SIGNAGE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALLOWED 24 SQUARE FEET OF WALL SIGN ALONG THE EAST OF OUR BUILDING.

AND WE'RE ASKING TO HAVE 24 SQUARE FEET ALONG THE SOUTH LINE INDICATED WITH THE BLUE LINE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS FOR ON-SITE USERS SO THEY KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING. IT'S A MULTIUSE BUILDING.

THE INTENT OF THE OVERLAY IS TO PREVENT THE OVER ABUNDANCE OF WALL SIGNANCE. THIS CERTAINLY WILL NOT BE SEEN BY PASSERS BY. THIS IS FOR ON SITE USERS AND MEETS THE INTENT OF THE OVER LAY.

NUMBER 8, IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THE PONTE VEDRA OVERLAY THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A TWO STORY OR 35 FOOT HIGH BUILDING. WE ARE NOT ASKING TO GO OVER THE 35 FOOT HIGH BUT ASKING TO GO TO THE THREE STORY BUILDING.

35 FOOT HEIGHT IS ALLOWED BY EVERY PROPERTY AROUND US.

FROM THE APARTMENTS AROUND US TO THE SELF STORAGE TO THE OFFICE COMPLEX. THE OVER LAY READS ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT CAN HAVE THE 35 FEET.

IF YOU'RE TWO STORIES, YOU HAVE TO NOT ONLY BE SETBACK BY

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RESTRICTED TO 35 FOOT HEIGHT. THE SELF STORAGE TO OUR NORTH DID NOT ADD THAT TO THE WAIVER BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY CAN MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A TWO STORY. THE FINAL WAIVER IS ONE DONE OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AS WELL.

STAFF ASKED US TO LIST THIS ONE IN THERE ABOUT THE FLAT ROOF.

ALTHOUGH THIS WILL BE A FLAT ROOF, IT WILL NOT HAVE THE APPEARANCE OF FLAT ROOF. IF IT DOES NOT HAVE THE APPEARANCE OF FLAT ROOF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR THE RELIEF. WE'RE PUTTING IN OUT OF REQUEST FROM STAFF. THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, LANDSCAPING WILL DEFINITELY BREAK UP THE MASS AND NOT LOOK LIKE A FLAT ROOF AND ANY SIDE. I WILL HAND IT BACK TO MIKE HERZBERG TO CLOSE IT OUT AND ALLOW FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE AND WOULD LIKE THE OPTION OF

REBUTTAL. >> OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP AND BE PREPARED TO FOLLOW THE NEXT SPEAKER.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE NO, MA'AM.

>> MEGAN MCKINLEY, 528 BRUTILE DRIVE.

I'M CURRENTLY A MEMBER. PONTE VEDRA ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD AND HAD LISTENED TO THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATIONS AT THE ARC MEETING AND OUR BOARD MEETING.

I DO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS RESPECTFUL OF THE PONTE VEDRA OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGN REGULATIONS THAT WERE THOUGHTFULLY CREATED AND HAVE BEEN COMPLIED WITH SINCE 1997.

THIS PROJECT IS JUST TOO LARGE FOR THE PARCEL.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAIVERS, THE FIRST WAIVER IS FOR THE SETBACK ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE PRESENTATION DIDN'T REALLY DISCUSS TOO MUCH. THE APARTMENT BUILDING RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE MOSTLY AFFECTED BY THE SIZE AND SHAPE OF THE HOTEL BUILDING. THE REGULATION THAT IS IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT ONLY INVISION TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THE REGULATION IS CURRENTLY FOR 50 FEET BUFFER FOR A TWO STORY BUILDING AND BUILDING 200 IS ACTUALLY A THREE STORY BUILDING. SHOULD BE LARGER BUT SINCE THAT ISN'T PRESENTED IN THE REGULATIONS, WE JUST CAN SAY THAT THE BUFFER THEY ARE ASKING FOR WHICH IS 20 FEET SHOULD BE 30 FEET WIDER. SECONDLY, THE BUILDING HEIGHT WHEN A BUILDING IS WITHIN 150 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND THE APARTMENTS ARE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT SHOULD BE 25 FEET.

SO A 35 FOOT BUILDING IS 10 FEET TOO HIGH.

ADDITIONALLY, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FILL THEY ARE ASKING FOR, THAT HEIGHT WOULD INCREASE TO 18 FEET.

THE NUMBER OF STORIES WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IS A MAXIMUM IN THIS AREA OF TWO. AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THREE STORIES FOR BOTH BUILDINGS. THAT'S ONE STORY TOO HIGH.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GROSS FLOOR AREA, THE MAXIMUM FOR 4.3 ACRES WOULD BE 43,000 SQUARE FEET AND WHEN YOU ADD THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOTEL BUILDING AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE RETAIL BUILDING, YOU WIND UP WITH OVER 76600 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS GIVES A MEASURE OF THE SIZE COMPARED TO THE LOT THEY'RE BUILDING ON.

THEY DISCUSSED FLAT ROOFS. WHEN I LOOK AT THAT PRESENTATION, I CAN SEE THE ROOFS OF FLAT AND NOTHING MORE REALLY NEEDS TO BE SAID. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LENGTH OF HOTEL BUILDING, IT'S 275 FEET. IN CONCLUSION THE PROJECT IS TOO LARGE FOR THE PARCEL AND I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS. THANK YOU MA'AM.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON ITEM 4? YES, MA'AM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. KITTY SWIDKISS, I LIVE IN PONTE

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VEDRA AVALON, DIRECTLY EAST OF THE PROJECT.

I HAVE BEEN THERE 31 YEARS NOW. I DON'T WANT TO REITERATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE PRIOR SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT THE WAIVERS. I WAS AT THE PONTE VEDRA ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD MEETING AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW MEETING. THE ZONING BOARD DID DENY 4-1 AND DIDN'T GET INTO THE WAIVERS BECAUSE THE OVER PROJECT TO THEM JUST DID NOT FIT THE OVER LAY DISTRICT WHICH HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF WAIVERS THEY'RE SQUEEZING IN MORE THAN THEY ARE ALLOWED. I WENT ACROSS SOMETHING WHERE THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN WAS AT 70% IMPERVIOUS EXCUSE ME.

THEY HAD TO REDUCE TO 65. AND I AM JUST ASSUMING AND MAYBE STAFF CAN CORRECT ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY JUST CHANGED THE PARKING AROUND THE HOTEL FROM PERVIOUS TO IMPERVIOUS.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 65% AND 75% IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

I'M HERE FOR RESIDENT AVENUE C. I HAVE A MAP HERE OF THE CHANGES THAT THE FDOT HAS PROHIBIT PRESENTED FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING ME WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S 45 HOMES AND ABOUT SIX SITES.

THE INTERSECTION OF AVENUE C AND A 1 A IS THE ONLY FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION ON A 1 A IN THE PONTE VEDRA WITH NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL. WE HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON A DAILY BASIS.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STACKED ALREADY FOR U TURNS DON'T FOLLOW ANY KIND OF STACKING LANE. THEY PRETTY MUCH COME INTO THE MEDIAN AND PARK WHERE THEY CAN TO GET THE U-TURN AVAILABLE TO GO BACK TO JACK'S BEACH OR JTB. THE STACKING LANE IN ANTICIPATION WAS U-TURNS THIS PROJECT IS A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY PROJECT. EVERYONE HAS TO LEAVE GOING SOUTH. HALF OF THE PEOPLE WANT TO GO NORTH. THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE MAKING A U-TURN IN AN INADEQUATE AREA. THE ONLY TIME WE CAN GET OUT NOW IS WHEN THERE'S A RED LIGHT SOUTH OF US AT PONTE VEDRA LAKES BOULEVARD. SO THE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT ONLY THE NOISE THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM THE ROOF TOP DECK THAT WILL BE OVER 35 FEET AND 35 FEET IS THE LIMIT. IS THIS TRAFFIC SITUATION THAT WILL OCCUR ON THE MEDIAN. IN YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY.

THE DATA IS VERY OLD. DOESN'T SHOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU >> ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?

>> YES, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

>> B.J. KLATY, 8 NEW COME STREET SAINT AUGUSTINE.

THIS PONTE VEDRA ZONING AND ADJUSTMENT BOARD VOTED 4-1 TO RECOMMEND DENIAL. ALL THESE BOARDS ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL BUT KNOW WE CAN COME IN HERE AND GET WHAT WE WANT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE DENIED SAME PROBLEM. THE DEVELOPER IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN YOU PURCHASE PROPERTY, YOU SHOULD DO BETTER DUE DILIGENCE SO YOU WILL BE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE ZONING AND COMP PLAN IS ASKING YOU TO DO ESPECIALLY IN PONTE VEDRA BEACH.

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 4? THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. CHAIR. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR. MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP. THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THIS OVERLAY HAS BEEN COMPLIED WITH SINCE 1997.

SIMPLE RESEARCH OF THE MATTERS THAT HAVE GONE BACK DEPICT WAIVERS ARE NOT ALL THAT UNUSUAL.

MORE WAIVERS WILL BE REQUIRED. THE PROJECT IS TOO LARGE FOR THE PARCEL. I GUESS I WOULD SIMPLY GO INTO THE PRESENTATION. I WOULD GO INTO THE PRESENTATION AND ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY DEVELOPED ON 2.5 ACRES IS 108,000, ALMOST 109000 SQUARE

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FEET. IF YOU TAKE THE MATH VERSUS ACTUALLY THE MATH WAS WRONG BY THE SPEAKER.

IT WOULD BE 84,000 ON OUR SITE. I THINK YOU WILL FIND WE ARE A LOT LESS DENSE THAN WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED TO THE NORTH OF US. FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE NORMAL AND LOGICAL TRANSITION FROM THE INTERCHANGE THAT EXISTS WITH A GRAVITATIONAL CHANGE TOWARD OFFICE AND THESE HOSPITALITY USES.

AS MR. SHELTER WAS EXPLAINING, THE COUNTY CODE COMTEMPLATES HOTELS AS A RESIDENTIAL USE. THE USES ARE VERY SIMILAR IN THAT REGARD. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SLEEP AND IT'S NOT AN OUTDOOR LARGE ACTIVITY GENERATOR IN THAT RESPECT. TWO STORY AND THREE STORY.

IF YOU READ THE PROJECT PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY APPROVED TO THE NORTH, IT'S MOST CERTAINLY THREE STORIES.

THEY ARGUE IT LOOKS LIKE THREE STORIES, IT'S STILL THREE STORIES. IT'S 35 FEET TALL AND THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION CLEARLY SAYS THAT.

AGAIN AS A PLANNER, I'M TASKED WITH LOOKING AT THE EXISTING BUILT ENVIRONMENT IN MY AREA AND THEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BOTH CONSISTENT AND COMPLEMENTARY TO THAT. AS AN AICP PLANNER, I WOULD TELL

YOU WE HAVE DONE THAT >> AS TO THE ISSUE OF THE 270 FEET. AS MR. SHELTON AND I DISCUSSED, THE OVERALL VIEW IS FAR LESS. YOU ARE SEEING 60 TO 100 FEET OF THE BUILDING AT BEST. IT'S 400 FEET AWAY.

AT WHAT POINT IS IT LOGICAL FOR A BUILDING TO BE PARALLEL? GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE SETBACK PROPOSED WITH THIS.

THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT AND WE ARE MEETING THE FAR WHICH IS NOT TRUE TO THE PROJECT NORTH OF THE US WHEN ONE DOES SIMPLE MATH. THE AVENUE C MATTERS, I WILL LEAVE TO THE EXPERT AND MR. BILL SHILLING IS HERE AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HIM. MS. SWITKISS MADE THE COMMENT THE EAGLE'S NEST WOULD BE OVER 35 FEET.

THE NOMINAL AREA OF INCREASE YOU SEE WOULD MOST CERTAINLY NOT BE ABOVE 35 FEET. NOTHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ABOVE 35 FEET. IT IS A NOMINAL PORTION OF THE BUILDING ONLY. JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THOSE MATTERS. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. SHILLING TO ADDRESS THE AVENUE C CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND WOULD LIKE ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I'M BILL SHILLING WITH MCKINLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES, 12740 GRAND PARK WAY WEST.

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. 32258.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SLEIMAM ENTERPRISES.

I SPECIAL IN TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION AND DID WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE THINGS. ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCESS, AND GETTING FOLKS IN AND OUT OF THE SITE, THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH AND DONE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PERMITTING WORK WITH THE FDOT EVEN BEFORE RECEIVING THIS ZONING APPROVAL TODAY. SO TO SHARE A COUPLE OF THINGS, I DID WANT TO CORRECT JUST A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED ACCESS DRIVE.

THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT AND LEFT IN SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THE F DOT TO PERMIT A NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT AND THEY REQUIRE, I GUESS I SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK.

THE UNIQUE THING IS STATE ROAD A 1 A IS A STATE FACILITY.

SO ACCESS TO A 1 A IS MANAGED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THAT'S THE ANXIETY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON PERMITTING THIS ACCESS. THE DOT IS REQUIRING A SOUTHBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE.

THIS IS THE NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE.

THE DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE AS REQUIRING AN EXTENSION OF THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE AT PROFESSIONAL DRIVE AND AVENUE C. AND NOT ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THIS EXHIBIT BUT WE WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT WHILE WE WERE OUT

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DOING THIS WORK, THE FDOF ASKED US TO EXTEND THE NORTHBOUND DUAL LEFT TURN LANES AT MARSH LANE. WE WILL BE EXTENDING 100 FEET.

I'M HAPPY TO REPORT. BEFORE I LEAVE THIS, ONE THING TO MENTION, I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT AVENUE C AND CONCERNS ABOUT TURNING LEFT AND THE SIGNAL.

THE DOT HAS SHARED WITH US WE ACTUALLY DID TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT SIGNALIZATION AND BASICALLY THE RESPONSE WE DID GET BACK FROM THE DEPARTMENT IS THAT THIS MEDIAN OPENING IS TOO CLOSE TO MARSH LANDING PARK WAY TO MEET THE DOT'S MINIMUM SIGNAL SPACING. THEY SHARED THEY WILL NOT ALLOW A SIGNAL AT THIS LOCATION. THEY DID SEE AND WE ALSO SEE BENEFIT IS FOR THOSE FOLKS AT AVENUE C THAT DO HAVE A TOUGH TIME TURNING LEFT, THEY ACTUALLY WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE NEW NORTHBOUND LEFT LANE TO U-TURN AND COME BACK AS AN ALTERNATIVE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. I DID WANT TO SHARE THAT.

WE HAVE TALKED WITH THE DOT ABOUT SIGNALIZATION HERE AND AGAIN BECAUSE OF SPACING, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED.

I DID WANT TO SHARE THAT THE DOT HAS COMPLETED REVIEW OF OUR APPLICATION AND, LET ME SLIDE THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THEY HAVE OFFICIALLY ISSUED TO US, THEY HAVE ISSUED IN MAY AND THEIR NOTICE TO ISSUE OUR ACCESS PERMIT TO MAKE THIS CONNECTION TO A 1 A. I DID WANT TO HAVE THAT ON THE RECORD AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY TRAFFIC QUESTIONS

THANK YOU. >> YES JUST SET SOMETHING UP HERE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL BE VERY BRIEF HERE. I WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

THIS IS A CLIP RIGHT OUT OF THE OVERLAY OF THE PURPOSE AND INTENT. AS A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS AND A HEARING OFFICER THERE AS WELL, I HAVE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME REVIEWING OVERLAYS AND POTENTIAL DESIGNS AND ACTUALLY WROTE SOME OF THE CODE IN JACKSONVILLE. I AM FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO OBTAIN. NO ONE CAN CODIFY THERE'S NOT A FOR FLEXIBILITY AND THAT IS THE REASON YOU HAVE WAIVERS AND THE WAIVERS ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE PONTE VEDRA OVER LAY.

THE COMPELLING INTEREST IN THE PURPOSE AND INTENT IS THE ACTUAL INTENT IS TO ENHANCE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT ALONG ROADWAYS.

PROTECTING HISTORY AND ENHANCED LANDSCAPING.

CLUSTERING COMPLEMENTARY, WE ARE CLUSTERING THE HOTEL TOGETHER AND THE PONTE VEDRA TITLE BUILDING WILL BENEFIT FROM THE POTENTIAL RETAIL USES. ENCOURAGING PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES. ENHANCING THE APPEARANCE OF THE FACILITY WITH LANDSCAPING AND IN THE REZONING, THE ACTUAL CRITERIA AND PROCESSING, THE SEPARATION AND BUFFERING BETWEEN USES. WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE FACT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT BUFFERING AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE BUFFERING AS YOU SAW IN THE PHOTOS AND WOULD BE GLAD TO FLIP BACK TO, THE A LOT OF VEGETATION BEYOND THEIR DEVELOPMENT AREA, THERE'S A POND AND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF VEGETATION.

THAT'S THE BEST BUFFER A PERSON CAN HAVE.

I CAN PUT UP A BUFFER AND THINGS COULD DIE.

THINGS HAPPEN. THE BEST BUFFER IS THE ONE YOU OWN BECAUSE YOU CONTROL THAT AND MANAGE THAT GOING FORWARD.

ANOTHER CRITERIA FOR REZONING IS THE SAFE USE OF THE ROADWAYS AND WE HAVE DONE THAT TODAY. THE VISUAL AND AESTHETIC ENHANCEMENT. I CAN'T STRESS HOW MUCH I TRULY BELIEVE WE ARE DOING THAT. THE WAY THE USE IS COMPLEMENTARY. WE COULD HAVE DONE A BANK, OR SELF STORAGE ALL APPROVED IN THIS AREA BUT A PERIOD OF TIME BUT WE THOUGHT IT DESERVED SOMETHING BETTER.

FINALLY THE DEGREE TO COME SYSTEM COMPLEMENTER AND SUPPORTIVE, I THINK IT IS. THE LAST THING I WANT TO BRING UP AND I WILL BE DONE RIGHT HERE.

THE PURPOSE OF OVERLAY DISTRICT. THIS IS VERY UNIQUE MUCH AS MR. SHELTON SAYS, WHEN ONE DRAFTS ONE, THE STRICTER OF THE TWO WILL APPLY. THE OVERLAY ALONG THE FRONTAGE THE STRICTER DOES NOT APPLY. THE PONTE VEDRA OVERLAY

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SUPERCEDES THE CODE. SIMILARLY, THIS IS VERY STRANGE LANGUAGE, THE WAY IN WHICH THE DETERMINATION OF COMPATIBILITY IS FOUND AND WHAT IT CLEARLY SAYS IS ANY USE WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN 600 FEET OF ANY PROPERTY BOUNDARY OF SAID PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, LOCATED ON THE SAME SIDE OF AN OVER LAY DISTRICT DELINEATED ROADWAY. A1 A IS THAT DELINEATED ROADWAY.

THE COMPATIBILITY IS ON THE WEST SIDE.

WITH THAT, I WILL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR. WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD.

QUESTIONS? MR. HERZBERG.

I WILL HAVE YOU COME UP BRIEFLY. AS WE DISCUSSED.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A GREAT JOB.

THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE.

I DO WANT THERE ARE TIMES WE NEED WAIVERS.

THE STORAGE CENTER HAD A FEW WAIVERS AS WELL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.

MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME ELABORATION ON THAT.

THE CONCERN IS, THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT. A LOT OF TRAFFIC WILL BE COMING FROM THE NORTH. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THOSE

CONCERNS? >> I WILL LET MR. SHILLING ADDRESS THOSE. HE'S MORE WELL-EDUCATED ON SUCH

>> YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES. SO WE ARE EXPECTING A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF TRAFFIC TO THE NORTH.

WE HAVE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INTERESTING THAT WE DID SEE, DURING PEAK HOUR AT THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF U-TURNS, WITH RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING HOME.

SO, THE OUT BOUND WAS 10 VEHICLES OR LESS DURING THE PEAK HOUR. DURING OUR HEAVIEST TIME, FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT IS WHEN THEY HAVE THE MOST TRIPS COMING OUT BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING HOME AT THAT TIME OF DAY.

WE MADE OURSELVES COMFORTABLES THE DESIGN ENGINEER AND CERTAINLY WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE DOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH AVENUE C AND THAT MEDIAN OPEN TO

GO THE SOUTH. >> APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. MR. DEAN.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS IN DISTRICT 4, BUT I'M PREPARED TO

MAKE >> NO.

PLEASE. >> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021-77.

APPROVING PUD 21-6, THE APPROACH OF PONTE VEDRA BEACH SUBJECT TO NINE FINDINGS OF FACT AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY SMITH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS A -- >> YES, THAT IS A TECHNICAL, WELL, I SHOULD SAY THIS, THERE MAYBE SOME OTHER MOTION THAT THE BOARD MAY DO BUT IF THAT IS THE LAST VOTE ON THIS MATTER, THAT IS A TECHNICAL DENIAL. WELL I THINK MR. HERZBERG, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU COME BACK UP. HERE'S MY CONCERN.

AND I SHARED THIS WITH YOU DIRECTLY.

MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU KNOW WE KEEP APPROVING THESE WAIVERS.

I DO UNDERSTAND LOOK, THAT PROPERTY I THINK YOU MENTIONED WHAT I HAD IN MY NOTES, THE OTHER OPTION WAS FOR POTENTIAL OFFICE SPACE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO THERE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S NOT GOING TO STAY VACANT.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT GOES THERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADDRESSES YOU KNOW WITH, THEY'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO US. THIS IS NOT A FINAL DECISION.

WE HAVE A BOARD THAT MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS JUST LIKE WE

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MAKE DECISIONS AND CAN BE OVER TURNED BY A COURT OF LAW.

IS THERE ANY, WHEN YOU AND I SPOKE BRIEFLY, I SPOKE ABOUT THE SCENIC EDGE. HAVE Y'ALL BEEN ABLE TO MAKE ANY PROGRESS WITH THAT? MR. CHAIRMAN, I APOLOGIZE, AS IT RELATES TO THE QUESTION OTHER AS FAR AS ESTABLISHING ADDITIONAL BUFFERING OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT NOISE FROM POTENTIAL USE OF THE EAGLE'S NEST, WE'RE OPEN TO CONDITIONS, REASONABLE CONDITIONS AND ON ADVICE OF COUNCIL IT WOULD BE AGAINST MYSELF TO BEGIN OFFERING THAT.

BECAUSE SO FAR IN THE RECORD THERE'S NO PROOF OF ANY ACTIVITY OR EFFECTS SUCH AS THIS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, YESTERDAY I TOOK NOISE READINGS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. DIDN'T TAKE ANY IN THE WESTERN COMMUNITY SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S SO FAR AWAY.

I THINK YOU SEE NOISE LEVELS RIGHT NOW ALONG THE A1 A EXCEEDING 91 DECIBELS. IT'S A SIX-LANE ROADWAY IN THAT SEGMENT. ROADWAY ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE ON RAMPS AND OFF RAMPS AND TURNING MOVEMENTS.

I HAVE A DEFINITELY TIME WITHIN 30 YEARS OF LAND PLANNING TO FEEL THAT SOMEONE COULD GENERATE ENOUGH NOISE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT OR THIS PROJECT TO CROSS THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IMPACT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT FASHION. ESPECIALLY WITH THE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS SHOWN AND WE DO INTEND TO PROVIDE TO THE SITE.

SO BEING THERE'S LACKING ANY EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY, I I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER,

WE COULD CONSIDER. >> THE WAIVER FOR THE, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE THE OVERLAY DISTRICT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE COUNTY CODE. GETTING MORE TO THE 30 FOOT WOULD BE, I THINK WOULD MAKE ME MORE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING

IT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, AS FAR AS THE 30 FOOT, THE REAL PROBLEM ON THE HOTEL BUILDING BEING AT 30 FOOT, IS THE MODULE. THEY HAVE A MODULE FOR THE ROOM.

IF I HAVE TO LOWER SPACE OR ROOF, IT AFFECTS THE SPACE OF THE ROOM IN THAT REGARD. IF IT'S SOMETHING, THE BUILDING 100 IS NOT PROGRAMMED TO BE 35 FEET WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EAGLE'S NEST, SO IF IT'S ONE BUILDING OR TWO BUILDING, I'M NOT SURE. BOTH BUILDINGS IS THAT THE ISSUE, AGAIN I POINT BACK TO THE POINT ON THE RECORD AND THE MASS OF THE BUILDING. MR. SHELTON IS INDICATING, HE MIGHT BE SPEAKING TO THE LANDSCAPING AS FAR AS VISIBILITY. TO THAT POINT, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM ENHANCING THE LANDSCAPING.

OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY YOU CAN STILL FIND US IN HERE. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN.

IF THERE'S PROPOSAL TO DO SOMETHING MORE TO DO THAT, I AM MORE THAN HEAVY TO DO THAT. RUN BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT DOES THAT. THE TREES WILL BE PLANTED AND WILL TAKE TIME TO BE ESTABLISHED AND CREATE THAT.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO IN WITH LRGER TREES AT THE ON SET IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE CODE IS TWO INCH AT THE TIME OF INSTALLATION.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO FOUR INCH IF THAT'S CONSIDERATION OR

VALUE? >> I THINK IT WOULD.

THIS IS MY DISTRICT. IT'S IMPORTANT.

WE APPROVE A LOT OF WAIVERS AND HAVE OVER LAY FOR PERMITS.

I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE TRAFFIC THERE AND IT'S NOT GOING TO SIT VACANT. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE CONCERNS. A LITTLE MORE OF THE SCENIC.

I THINK THE OVERLAY DISTRICT IS CORRECT TO HAVE THE REQUIREMENT IN PLACE. IF WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT TODAY. I WAS ONE OF NEGATIVE VOTES, I WOULD BE WILLING TO REVOTE ON IS THAT.

>> SO. BOARD, IF THE BOARD SITS WHERE IT IS NOW, WHERE THE BOARD SITS, THAT'S A TECHNICAL DENIAL.

I WOULD ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION TO BASICALLY THERE HAS TO BE AN ORDER AFTER IT. WITH THE 2-2, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY ADOPT FINDINGS OF FACT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE APPROVAL TO AT LEAST PHRASE THE DRAFT ORDER AS DID NOT DEMONSTRATE, DID NOT DEMONSTRATE Y ET CETERA. BUT, GOING TO YOUR POINT, MR. CHAIR. SHOULD THE BOARD WISH TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON OR CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT BCC MEETING OR ANOTHER BCC MEETING, THE BOARD COULD DO THAT. THE BOARD HAS HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT ET CETERA ON IT. IT GOT THROUGH THE APPLICATION.

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IT SEEMS THAT THERE MAYBE SOME DISCREET CONCERNS THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED AND THE BOARD COULD I THINK REVOTE ON THIS.

I THINK WITH THE 2-2 AS IT SITS, AGAIN, ONCE THE ITEM IS OVER THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH RECONSIDERATION WHICH ONE OF THE TWO DENIAL THINGS. IF THE BOARD CONTINUES IT, THE HEARING IS STILL NOT INACTIVE AND THERE COULD BE SOME FURTHER PROPOSAL AND THE BOARD COULD, WITH ANOTHER MOTION FROM THE

BOARD. >> I WILL JUST SPEAK TO MY BOARD MEMBERS. I THOUGHT I MADE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS CLEAR. I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL HAVE A BUSINESS DECISION YOU NEED TO MAKE.

I FEEL LIKE THESE WERE TOO MANY WAIVERS.

I'M WILLING, IT'S MY DISTRICT, I'M WILLING TO CONTINUE TO GIVE US TIME TO WORK THAT OUT. IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. REAL QUICK, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. HAVING SPOKEN NO.

WHEN THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS ARE SPEAKING ABOUT TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD, THAT CARRIES WEIGHT WITH ME.

I KNOW WE APPROVED WAIVERS TO THE NORTH OF THE STORAGE FACILITY. ONE OF THE DETERMINING FACTORS WAS THE LOW TRAFFIC COUNT ON A 1 A WHICH HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION AS IT IS. WHEN I HAVE A DISTRICT COMMISSION BRINGING UP TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

THAT CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT. IN ADDITION TO MY CONCERNS.

I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND. THAT WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO A

CONTINUATION OF THE ITEM. >> MAY I, I JUST CONFERRED WITH OUR ENGINEERS. WE COULD INCREASE THE 20 FOOT BUFFER ALONGSIDE A 1 A TO 30 FOOT.

THIS THAT MAKES YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, I CAN GO TO 30 FEET AND STILL OFFER THE FOUR INCH TREES INSTALLED ALONG THAT

PROPERTY IF THAT CARRIES VALUE. >> CERTAINLY IT DOES WITH ME.

THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ARE SIGNIFICANT BUT SOMETHING HAS TO GO THERE AT SOME POINT. WHETHER THERE'S AN OFFICE BUILDING OR MEDICAL FACILITY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME.

UNTIL DOT COMES IN HERE AND HELPS US AND RECOGNIZES THESE PROBLEMS, WE WILL BE DEALING WITH THIS GOING FORWARD.

I AM JUST FOR THE REST OF Y'ALL. I'M OPEN TO CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO WORK THE DETAILS OUT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE THIS IN WRITING.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO, MR. CHAIR, I THINK IT COULD BE CONTINUED TO LATER ON IN THE MEETING OR CONTINUED TO SAY THE

NOVEMBER 2ND BCC. >> WHY DON'T WE DO THIS.

WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE THIS AND BREAK SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO NOW. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LUNCH. TAKE A RECESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. HERZBERG TO COME BACK UP.

YOU HEARD SOME THE THINGS MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST SAID. WE VOTED DENIAL.

TECHNICAL DENIAL. SO THIS CONTINUES TO SEE IF WE

CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. >> FIRST MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK BACK AT A FEW THINGS. WE HAVE SELF IMPOSED CONDITIONS AND DELETIONS AND WAIVERS WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE.

IF MR. SHILLING COULD ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC MATTERS AND REALLY WHAT WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON, IF WE WERE TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT IN LIEU OF WHAT WE PROPOSE.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, REAL QUICKLY.

I WANTED TO SHARE, I HAD A CHANCE TO PULL THE STUDY DURING THE BREAK. I DID WANT TO CORRECT MYSELF.

THE COUNT THAT WAS DONE IN JANUARY OF 2020, THEY WERE EIGHT TURNING VEHICLES. I WANTED TO SHARE IT WAS 11 VEHICLES IN THE PEAK HOUR. THE SECOND ITEM I WANT TO ADDRESS AND I KNOW THE COMMISSIONERS ADDRESSED IT.

I WANTED TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

IT IS CORRECT. THERE ARE THING, MANY THINGS THAT COULD GO ON THIS SITE THAT WOULD BE A GENERATOR.

HOTEL WHEN COMPARED TO COMMERCIAL IS A LOWER GENERATOR.

THE HOTEL USE ON THIS SITE IS ROUGHLY ONLY 38% OF THE TRIPS BEING GENERATED BY THE SITE. TAKING THE HOTEL OFF AND PUTTING

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COMMERCIAL OR OTHER RESTAURANTS ON SITE WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC TO AND FROM THE SITES.

THAT WAS AN ASSUMPTION THAT WAS MADE AND I WANTED TO CONFIRM

THAT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? I WOULD PROPOSE TWO ELIMINATE TWO WAIVERS. PROPOSE TO ELIMINATE WAIVER 4 WHICH IS LDC SECTION 60602 F 2. PRINS B.

AND WE WOULD ELIMINATE THAT AND ALSO ELIMINATE THE WAIVER RELATED TO ITEM 7, THIS IS THE WALL SIGNAGE WAIVER.

SECTION X-C .2 A. I WOULD PROPOSE NUMBER ONE.

THE SHADE TREES INSTALLED ALONG THE CORRIDOR WOULD BE EIGHT INCH AS OPPOSED TO TWO INCH. IT WOULD PROVIDE AN IMMEDIATE SCREENING. I WILL GET THE IMMEDIATE VEGETATION SHOWN IN THE PICTURES ALONG THE A1 A FRONTAGE PROVIDING A BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTS AND NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSAL FOR THE EAGLE'S NEST, WE PROPOSE TO TURN THAT 90 DEGREES. SO THERE WOULD BE NO PROJECTION TO THE EAST, THE ORIENTATION WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH ALONG THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR THAT IS A 1 A PROVIDING SOMEWHAT SCREENING ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT SPACE SO THAT THE NOISE OR ANY ACTIVITIES UP THERE DO NOT GO TO THE EAST OR THE WEST WHERE THE RESIDENTIALS USES OCCUR. IF THOSE ARE ACCEPTABLE, I HAVE

THAT IN WRITING. >> THOSE ARE HELPFUL.

ELIMINATING THE TWO WAIVERS ARE HELPFUL, CUT DOWN THE NUMBER OF WAIVERS, PUTTING EIGHT INCH TREES IS HELPFUL AND WILL HOPEFULLY CUT DOWN THE NOISE. ROTATING THE DIRECTION OF THE

EAGLE'S NEST. >> GOLF THEME, EAGLES NEST.

>> I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE OBJECTION, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT.

I APPRECIATE BILL, IS BEHIND. ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

I THINK THE DOT WILL HELP US ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AS WELL.

MR. WHITEHURST. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE

ANYTHING. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. HERZBERG, I APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESSING THE CONCERN TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE NOISE. I KNOW WE ADDRESSED THAT.

OBVIOUSLY I'M A BIG FAN OF PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO SLEEP IN THEIR HOUSE. WITH THE TRAFFIC COUNT, THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN BY ME. OBVIOUSLY WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING GOING HERE. I DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE CARS ON THE ROAD. FOR ME YOU ADDRESSED THOSE CONCERNS. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU ALL. >> AT THIS POINT.

WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S A NEW MOTION.

>> RIGHT, SO THE MATTER WAS 2-2. THE HEARING WAS NOT OVER.

SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

IT WOULD BE RIGHT FOR THE BOARD TO IF THERE WAS ANY BOARD MEMBER THAT WANTED TO MAKE A NEW MOTION.

WE HAVE HEARD SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE APPLICATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER DEAN, I WOULD MOVE TO ENACT ORDINANT 2021-76. THE APPROACH AT PONTE VEDRA BEACH SUBJECT TO NINE FINDINGS OF FACT AS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SUBJECT TO THE APPLICANT'S ACCEPTANCE OF REMOVING TWO WAIVERS FROM HIS APPLICATION AND APPLYING SELF IMPOSED RESTRICTIONS AS READ INTO THE RECORD BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. A DESCRIBED BY THE APPLICANT.

ELIMINATE TWO WAIVERS AND CHANGE THE ORIENTATION TO THE WEST.

[6. Public Hearing * PUD 2020-12 Mill Creek Crossing. Request to rezone approximately 12.34 acres of land from Open Rural (OR) to Planned Unit Development (PUD) to accommodate up to 40,000 square feet of commercial/retail space. This request was heard by the Planning and Zoning Agency at their regularly scheduled public hearing on September 16, 2021, and was unanimously recommended for approval, 6-0.]

>> I INCORPORATE THAT INTO MY MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION. >> SECONDED BY SMITH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

PLEASE VOTE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6. THIS IS PUD 2020-12, THIS IS

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MILL CREEK CROSSING. MS. TAYLOR.

>> ONE AGAINST MR. CHAIR. QUASI JUDICIAL.

>> LET'S GO THROUGH QUASI JUDICIAL.

THANK YOU ON THURSDAY MARCH 11, 11:00 A.M. MET MR. TAYLOR.

WE DISCUSSED THE INTERSECTION BEING COMMERCIAL NODE AND DISCUSSED THE CEMETERY IN THE SENSITIVE NATURE AND THE IMPORTANCE TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE FAMILIES THAT ATTEND CEREMONIESA THE THIS CEMETERY. AND WE DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHAT MAY BE COMING TO THE PROJECT. ON THURSDAY OCTOBER 14TH AT 4:00 P.M., I MET WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND MR. BECAR AND DISCUSSED THE SAME ISSUES AND THE SAME SCOPE OF THE WORK.

AND THE CONCESSIONS THEY MADE TO THE COMMUNITY.

IN REGARDS TO THE CEMETERY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU MR. WHITEHURST. >> MR. VICE CHAIR DEAN.

>> YES, ON THURSDAY MARCH 18TH, 2021, AT 3 O'CLOCK, I MET WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND RAMSAY BAKER REGARDING THE PROJECT AND THURSDAY OCTOBER 14TH BEING 2021 AT 1 O'CLOCK, I MET WITH KAREN TAYLOR AND RAM SAY BAKER REGARDING THE PROJECT AND DISCUSSED PRIMARILY THE RESHAPING OF THE ENTRY WAY AND THE REMOVAL OR THE SHIFT OF THE OFFICE FACILITY BUILDING AWAY FROM THE CEMETERY AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE

>> THANK YOU.

SIR. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ON MARCH 11, 2021, 11:30 I MET WITH MR. TAYLOR, RAMSEY BECAR. WE DISCUSSED THE ASSOCIATED CEMETERY MR. BECAR WAS GOING TO PURCHASE THE EASTERN PORTION WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THAT PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL.

NOTHING PLANNED FOR THE CREEK. THEY WERE OTHER ISSUES AND NO GOPHERS THERE. ARCHAEOLOGICAL.

NO HISTORIC RELICES. DISCUSSED THE CEMETERY PROPORTION FOR FUTURE LOTS. NEED 540 PLOTS UNUSED.

TALKING ABOUT MR. BECAR'S PLANS IN REGARD TO WHAT HE HAD DONE ACROSS THE STREET AT MIRA BELLA AND ALSO THE PARCELS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. DISCUSSED INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE PROPERTY AND ALSO DISCUSSED A COMMERCIAL BUILDING ON THE WESTERN PORTION. THE NEXT TIME WE MET WAS OCTOBER 11, 2021, AT 11:30. MR. KAREN TAYLOR, MIKE ROBERTSON AND CHRISTIAN V. PRESENTED A TOTALLY REVISED PLAN AND THE PIECE WAS DIVIDED. WE REVIEWED AND ALL CONSTRUCTION REMOVED FROM THE PORTION OF THE SITE.

VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN MARCH.

EASTERN PORTION WOULD UP TO 45,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND DISCUSSED POSSIBLE USES. PZA HEARING VOTED 6-0 TO RECOMMEND AND APPROVE. THEY WERE NO REAL OUTSTANDING ISSUES IN REGARD TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAD BEEN BEFORE IN REGARD TO THE CEMETERY. BUT EVEN ONE OF THE PAST RESISTANCE CAME AND SPEAK THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT AND THERE WAS A LEFT IN.

ALSO BUFFERED THE CEMETERY AGREED TO.

THAT COMPLETES MY DISCLOSURE. >> THURSDAY MARCH 11, 11:30 A.M.

I MET WITH MR. TAYLOR AND RAMSEY BECAR.

WE MET AGAIN ON OCTOBER 14TH TO DISCUSS THE UPDATES AS FAR AS THE PLAN, CEMETERY AND THE ISSUES WITH THE DAISES AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY. SO.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

KAREN TAYLOR. 77 SERA GOSSA STREET AND RAMSEY BECAR IS WITH ME AND THIS IS HIS PROJECT.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE ENGINEER OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT OR ARCHAEOLOGIST. I HAVE INFORMATION FROM THEM AS WELL. JUST TO BRIEF.

I WILL GO THROUGH THIS. I HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS WITH YOU ALL BOTH IN MARCH AND BOTH HERE SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO

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MUCH TIME. IT IS AT THE CORNER OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARK WAY, BESETY ROAD AND STATE ROAD 16.

THIS IS A CLOSER LOOK AS IT HOW IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIX.

THIS IS A PARTICULAR SITE AND DOES NOT FRONT ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARK WAY. THAT ACTUALLY BELONGS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. IT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL C AREA, WHICH REQUIRES A PUD IN ORDER TO DO ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL ALSO IT'S IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR SO YOU HAVE TO DO THE PUD.

IT'S SURROUNDED BASICALLY BY OR. MOSTLY BY THE SCHOOL AND THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL THAT IS IN THE PUD'S.

THIS KIND OF BRINGS UP JUST A CLOSE UP OF BASICALLY HOW THE SITE WILL BE DIVIDE. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING CEMETERY. THIS IS MILL CREEK THAT GOES THROUGH HERE AND MR. BECAR WOULD DEVELOP THIS PORTION OF THE SITE ALTHOUGH AS I WILL SHOW ON THE MAP, HE ACTUALLY WILL HAVE ACCESS THAT WILL SHARE WITH THE CEMETERY.

JUST TO SURVEY TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE CREEK IS AND HOW THE CEMETERY ITSELF IS LAID OUT. A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE INTERSECTION. THIS IS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE NOW. I HAVE A LITTLE BETTER VERSION OF IT COMING UP A LITTLE BIT THAT YOU CAN SEE.

AS ALLUDED TO BY ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT I TALKED TO, THIS WAS OUR ORIGINAL PLAN. WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.

AND THAT IS WHERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAD RELATIVES ENTERED IN THE CEMETERY WERE VERY UPSET WITH THE IDEA OF HAVING A BUILDING IN FRONT. THIS WAS GOING TO BE FOR THE PARISH. AS WE DISCUSSED IT AND EVERYTHING WE ENDED UP TAKING THAT OUT.

WE TOOK OUT ANY COMMERCIAL USE ON THAT SITE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE DESIGNATED THAT WHOLE SITE AND I WILL GO TO THE NEXT ONE AS CULTURAL INSTITUTIONAL USES ONLY.

EXCEPT FOR THE ENTRANCE ROAD. THE NEW SITE PLAN BASICALLY IS MORE OF SMALLER BUILDINGS RATHER THAN A STRIP CENTER AND THERE IS A DAY CARE CENTER AND A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT THAT IS NOT, THIS LOOKS LIKE A DRIVEWAY BUT THAT MDP WILL CHANGE.

WE DO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SCENIC EDGE, THE DEVELOPMENT EDGE AND THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL THAT WILL BE ON THE CEMETERY SIDE SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN THAT.

JUST TO GO THROUGH THESE AND I DON'T NEED, I BASICALLY JUST SAID THAT, BUT BASICALLY THIS IS UP TO 40,000 SQUARE FOOT.

MR. BECAR WILL BE REQUIRED TO BUILD AND MAKE ACCESS AND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WILL BE SHARED THROUGH EASEMENTS BUT IT WILL BE ACROSS PROPERTY OWNED BY THE DAIS. AS FOR ACCESS, THERE'S TWO ACCESS POINTS. AND THE ACCESS POINTS AS SHOWN ON HERE, THIS IS THE RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, PRETTY MUCH ONLY ALTHOUGH THEY WILL BE ABLE TO USE IT IF THEY WANT TO. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE THAT'S PLANNED FOR THE STATE ROAD 16 ASK THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE AS WELL. SO, SHOWING THIS AS CLOSE UP, THAT SERVES BOTH SITES. I HAD GIVEN YOU THIS ONE RIGHT NOW. IF YOU WERE COMING NORTHWEST BOUND, YOU CAN GET INTO THE CEMETERY AND OUT.

YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO ROOS LANDING ROAD.

SAME THING GOING SOUTH, YOU CAN'T CROSS OVER HERE, YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE INTERSECTION AND COME BACK.

THE NEW SOLUTION, THE NEW SOLUTION ACTUALLY WILL PROVIDE FOR A THE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT HERE.

RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT HERE PLUS A TURN AROUND AND LEFT TURN LANE.

WHICH WAS SHOWN IN THAT INITIAL PICTURE.

AS SHOWN IN THAT ONE. SO CAN YOU DO ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES THERE WHICH WILL BENEFIT THE CEMETERY AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL. THE PERMITTED USES.

THE AREA WILL ONLY BE THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONAL AND THE

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OTHER WILL BE MORE TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL.

JUST IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION. I DID INCLUDE THIS.

THERE ARE THREE SITES THAT WERE DISCOVERED DURING THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDY. NONE OF THEM WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ACTUALLY THE MILL CREEK DAM AND THE CEMETERY WILL BE PROTECTED BY THE DAISES.

JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE NEW PUBLIX IS GOING IN.

JUST TO GO THROUGH PICTURES OF THE CEMETERY, THE BUFFERS THAT WILL STILL REMAIN ALONG THAT. ALONG THE FRONT OF IT.

SOME OF THE REALLY NICE TREES. AS WE'RE LOOKING HERE, YOU'RE STARTING TO LOOK TOWARDS THE PROPERTY THAT MR. BAKR AND THAT'S A PINE FOREST. WHAT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE. WE FEEL IT'S COMPATIBLE AND MEETS THE GOALS OF THE COMP PLAN.

THE PUD DEFINES THOSE SIZE AND SCOPE AND ALSO WITH THE CULTURE INSTITUTIONAL TAKES AWAY SOME OF THE OR THINGS THAT ACTUALLY COULD HAVE BEEN GOING ON THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.

WE'RE DOING THE 25 FOOT AVERAGE UPLAND BUFFER AND ABOUT THE SETBACK, ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO BUILDINGS PROPOSED IN THEIR AND THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. WE FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE IN EXISTING COMMERCIAL NODE.

WE HAD COMMUNITY MEETING AND HAD THE CONCERNS WE MET WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. WE TALKED WITH THEM A LOT OF DIFFERENT TIMES AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE COME ABOUT. PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND WE'RE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 6. MILL CREEK CROSSING.

ITEM SIX. PUBLIC COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIR. BACK TO YOU.

>> OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT NOW BACK TO THE

BOARD. >> I'M PREPARED TO MOVE THIS IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021-78. BASED ON NINE FINDINGS OF FACT

[7. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-08 Premier Communications Group. Request to rezone approximately .09 acres of land from Residential, Single-Family (RS-3) to Commercial Neighborhood (CN), specifically located between 256 and 260 SR 16. This item was heard by the Planning and Zoning Agency at their regularly scheduled public hearing on September 16, 2021. The Agency voted unanimously to recommend approval of the request, 6-0.]

PROVIDED IN STAREPORT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION BY DEAN. SECOND BY WHITEHURST.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE PLEASE VOTE.

>> THAT PASSES 4-0. >> THANK YOU.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO AGENDA ITEM 7.

THIS IS RESIDENCE 2021-08. PREMIERE COMMUNICATIONS GROUP.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I KNOW I SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD. QUASI

>> NONE. NONE.

>> I HAVE NONE AS WELL. YES, SIR.

MY NAME IS TROY WATSON. I'M WITH PREMIERE COMMUNICATIONS GROUP. WE BROUGHT PROPERTY AT 260 STATE ROAD 16 SIX MONTHS AGO ADJACENT LOT 35.

I DON'T HAVE THE CLICKER TO SHOW YOU.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE LOT BESIDE CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL.

OUR PLAN IS TO WE JUST NEED A LITTLE STORAGE SO WE CAN, JUST WANT TO FENCE IT IN AND SECURE EVERYTHING WITH IT.

YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING AROUND IT.

PRETTY MUCH COMMERCIAL. AS THE LOT 35 BESIDE IT.

IT'S VACANT RIGHT NOW. ADVANCED AUTO PARTS AND SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. THE FUTURE LAND USE DOES SHOW MIXED USE DOWN THE ROAD. SO WE WENT TO THE BOARD AND THEY APPROVED IT 6-0. SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SHOW Y'ALL THIS. I'M JUST AN ELECTRICIAN TRYING

TO GET THIS LOT REZONED. >> ARE YOU TAKING APPLICATIONS? ABSOLUTELY. BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SHORT AND SWEET. WE DON'T HAVE NO BIG PLANS.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO BUILD A CELL TOWER.

WE'RE JUST GO TO ADD ON TO THE OFFICE THERE.

JUST ASKING FOR YOUR BLESSING. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

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>> OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPEN FOR ITEM 7.

MR. CHAIRMAN. SEEING NONE.

I'M PREPARED TO MOVE THIS ITEM IF THERE AREN'T OTHER

>> YES, SIR, PLEASE. >> OKAY.

MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021-79.

>> APPROVING REZONING 2021-OI PREMIERE COMMUNICATIONS GROUP.

REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY .09 ACRES OF LAND FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RS 3 TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY LOCATED BETWEEN 256 AND 260 STATE ROAD 16 BASED ON

[8. Public Hearing * REZ 2021-20 Riverside Blvd Lots Rezone. A request to rezone approximately .47 acres of land from Commercial General (CG) to Residential, Single Family (RS-3), specifically located at 5605 A1A S. The Planning and Zoning Agency voted 6-0 to recommend approval of REZ21-20 Riverside Blvd Lots Rezone.]

FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES 4-0.

>> ALL RIGHT SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM EIGHT.

THIS IS ALSO QUASI JUDICIAL. GOVERNOR SIR.

START WITH >>

>> SMITH. >> NONE.

>> I HAVE NONE AS WELL. GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE ON. CAM RAN JAKONS, 5420 LAKE VIEW.

I WANTED TO TRY AND REZONE. IT'S SIX LOTS AND A VACATED EASEMENT. SO IT'S SEVEN PARCELS.

WE WANT TO TURN IT FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO RS 3.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW YOU.

IT'S ON THE CORNER OF RIVERSIDE BOULEVARD AND A1 A.

>> OKAY. >> GREAT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BOARD?

>> OKAY. SEEING NONE.

WHY DON'T WE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 8. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 8.

BACK TO YOU MR. CHAIR. >> PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED.

WE'RE BACK TO THE BOARD. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN.

THIS IS DISTRICT 3. IN COMMISSIONER WALDRON'S ABSENCE, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS AVENUE.

I WILL MOVE THIS ITEM TO ENACT ORDINANCE 2021-80.

>> APPROVING REZONING 2021-20 RIVERSIDE BOULEVARD LOTS REZONED

[9. Consider appointments to the North Coastal Design Review Board (NCDRB). Currently there are four (4) vacancies on the North Coastal Design Review Board (NCDRB) due to expired terms, a removal due to excessive absenteeism, and a resignation. NCDRB vacancies have been advertised multiple times since October 2020. Members are required to be a St. Johns County resident who has shown an interest in the history and design of the North Coastal and Vilano Community, residing within the North Coastal Overlay District; or within the Vilano Town Center Mixed Use Overlay District. Attached for your review and consideration are four applications (Laurel Berntsen-Nicol, Rita Clare-Salzler, Kathleen Floryan, and Linda LaCerva), along with a recommendation letter from the North Coastal Design Review Board. Please note that there was a fifth applicant, Ms. Paula Alexander, who was recommended by the NCDRB; however, Ms. Alexander made a request to withdraw her application on September 9th. Additionally, Ms. Jean Miller's previous application has been added to this packet due to the NCDRB making the recommendation that as a current alternate member, she replace Mr. Steve Pullara as a regular member. An updated application has been requested for Ms. Miller but was not available at the time of this packet being constructed.]

BASED ON FOUR FINDS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE MROEZ VOTE.

PASSES, 4-0. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 9. THIS IS CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

MS. LUNDQUIST. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

YES THIS, SORRY MELISSA LUNDQUIST, THIS ITEM FOR THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

CURRENTLY THERE ARE 4 VACANCIES. THESE ARE DUE TO EXPIRED TERMS, REMOVAL DUE TO EXCESSIVE ABSENTEEISM AND A RESIGNATION.

THESE VACANCIES HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED FOR SOME TIME SINCE OCTOBER 2020. I THINK ONE OF THE THEM EVEN BEFORE THAT NOT GOING TO GO WHAT MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO BE.

ATTACHED FOR FOUR APPLICATIONS. AND A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

THERE WAS A 5TH APPLICANT MS. PAULA ALEXANDER, HOWEVER AFTER THE NORTH COASTAL DRB MET ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, SHE REQUESTED HER APPLICATION BE REMOVED FROM THE PACKET VIA E-MAIL TO THE CHAIR OF THE NORTH COASTAL DRB. ALSO I HAVE INCLUDED MS. JEAN MILLER'S PREVIOUS APPLICATION. SINCE THEN, YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED HER UPDATED APPLICATION VIA RED FOLDER ALONG WITH DOCUMENTATION EXPRESSING OPPOSITION TO ONE OF THE OTHER DRB APPLICATIONS. I THINK THAT'S THE BASICS OF THIS. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> YES, SIR.

GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NINE. NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

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I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. >> I WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO MAKE FOUR MOTIONS. I WILL MOVE TO APPOINT MS. LINDA LASERVA TO THE NORTH COASTAL REVIEW BOARD TO EXPIRE

DECEMBER 9, 2023. >> SECOND.

OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST. ALL IN -- PLEASE VOTE.

THAT PASSES 4-0. NEXT A MOVE TO APPOINT MS. JEAN MILLER TO THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS A REGULAR MEMBER FOR TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 9, 2025.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

PLEASE VOTE. OKAY.

THAT PASSES 4-0. I MOVE TO APOINT MS. RITA SALSER TO THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS A REGULAR MEMBER

TO EXPIRE MARCH 1, >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. PASSES FOUR-0.

AND THE FORTH APPOINTMENT. I MOVE TO APOINT MS. CATHLENE

[10. Consider exception to BCC Rule 2.202.A.1 regarding the attendance of two members of the Library Advisory Board. In accordance with BCC Rule 2.202.A.1, Mr. Melvin Longo and Dr. Patricia Laurencelle were removed from the Library Advisory Board due to excessive absenteeism at the September 13, 2021 Library Advisory Board Meeting. BCC Rule 2.202.A.1 states, "If any appointed member of a Board/Committee fails to attend three (3) consecutive regularly scheduled meetings or five (5) of twelve (12) regular or special meetings or workshops of the Board/Committee, the Board/Committee shall declare the member’s office vacant and the vacancy shall be filled as provided herein, unless otherwise provided by law. Staff shall maintain a record of absences and enforce the attendance policy." Staff records reflect that Mr. Longo missed three consecutive meetings in April, May and June of 2021 and Dr. Laurencelle missed five consecutive meetings beginning October 2020 through February 2021. Mr. Longo and Dr. Laurencelle both submitted letters of appeal in accordance with BCC Rule 2.202.A.3. BCC Rule 2.202.A.3 states, "The above attendance requirement notwithstanding, the Board of County Commissioners may take action to allow an appointed member of a Board/Committee to continue to serve in office upon a showing of good cause and exceptional circumstances. If a member is interested in invoking this policy, the member should address a letter to the County Commission Chair, copied to the Board’s County Commission Liaison (if applicable) and staff support, stating such intentions. The matter will then be brought to the full County Commission for action. The Board may appoint an interim member as circumstances dictate." Please find attached for your consideration Rule 2.202 of the Board Rules and Policies, the Library Advisory Board attendance records for FY 2021 through FY 2016, a portion of the draft September 13, 2021 Library Advisory Board Meeting Minutes regarding the attendance discussion, and the letters of appeal from Mr. Longo and Dr. Laurencelle.]

FLORIAN TO THE NORTH COASTAL DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER FOR THE TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 9, 2023.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST.

ALL IN FAVOR -- PLEASE VOTE. PASSES 4-0.

>> MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 10. >> I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT DOES FREE UP ANOTHER ALTERNATE SEAT WITH MOVING MS. MILLER TO A REGULAR SEAT. OUR OFFICE WILL BE ADVERTISING THAT FOR A FOUR WEEK PERIOD SEEKING APPLICATIONS AND BEGINNING THAT PROCESS FOR THAT SEAT.

THANK YOU MRS. LINDQUIST. CONSIDER EXCEPTIONS TO THE BCC RULE 20.202 POINT A 1 REGARDING THE ATTENDANCE OF TWO MEMBERS OF

LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. >> IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE OFFICE'S ATTENTION THERE MAYBE ISSUES WITH THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. IT WAS TAKEN TO THE BCCRULES TO DECLARE THE MEMBERS OFFICES VACANT OF THOSE THAT WE KNEW AND HAD LOOKED INTO THE ATTENDANCE THAT HAD MISSED EITHER 3 CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS OR FIVE WITHIN A 12-MONTH PERIOD.

DR. PAT LAUREN CELL WHO IS SERVES IN THE AMERIT US POSITION AND MEL LONGO. SERVING AS DISTRICT FIVE REP.

BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION. PER YOUR BCC RULE 2.202 A 3, BOTH OF THOSE LETTERS ARE IN THIS PACKET.

SO, YOUR MOTIONS I HAVE PUT EITHER YOU MAY REINSTATE THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR MR. LONGO WOULD BE TO REINSTATE HIM FOR THE REMAINDER OF HIS TERM ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022, OR YOU CAN UPHOLD THE REMOVAL OF THE LAB. AND THE OTHER MOTION WOULD BE TO REINSTATE THERE PAT LAURENCELL AS AN AMERIT US POSITION.

SHE DOES NOT HAVE A TERM EXPIRATION OR UPHOLD THE LAB'S RECOMMENDATION FOR REMOVAL THERE.

THAT'S THE BASICS. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. I DID INCLUDE IN YOUR PACKET, THE ATTENDANCE GOING BACK TO 2016 WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE BEGINNING OF WHEN WE RESET THE LAB AND WHEN MR. LONGO AND DR. LAURENCELL WERE REOR PLACED ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME.