Sep 02, 2021 Planning and Zoning Agency

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>> I WANT TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, AND OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE COLLEGE OF ALLEGIANCE, IF EVERYBODY WOULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT.

MADAME VICE CHAIR, CAN WE HAVE A READING THE PUBLIC NOTICE

STATEMENT, PLEASE >> THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW. THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN AOPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY'S AREA OF AJURISDICTION AND THE P BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFE COMMENT AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST DO SO BY COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN. SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN TO STAFF. THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME ON EACH I'M FOR LAINGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY THE CHAIRMAN WHICH IS THREE MINUTES SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT, AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY.

IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS,3 PHOTOGRAPHS, OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR AGENCY OR THE COUNTY IN ANY REVIEW ORE APPEAL RELATING TO THE ITEM BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL HEARING OF THE AGENCY. IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURRED, THE AGENCY MEMBER SHOULD THEN IDENTIFY THE PERSONS INVOLVED AND THE MATERIAL CONTENT OF THE CIVILITY CLAUSE. WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE. WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE PICTURES WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS.

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 3/18/21 and PZA 6/3/21. ]

>> TWO OF THE THINGS IDLE ASK Y'ALL FIRST OF ALL WHEN YOU APPROACH THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE ADJUST IT WILL AND SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND LOUD ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR, AND THEN WOULD I TELL YOU WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA TODAY AND IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO STIFLE ANYBODY'S INPUT OR PRESENTATION, BUT TO THE EXTEND THAT YOU CAN KEEP IT BRIEF AND NOT REPEAT MAYBE WHAT SOMEONE ELSE WAS SAID, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO AT THIS POINT WE HAVE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF MARCH 18, 2021, AND JUNE 3, 2021, IN YOUR PACKET, BOARD MEMBERS FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE. OKAY.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK AND A SECOND BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE ANY CUSHION R.

DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL DO A VOICE VETO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED.

OKAY. THAT PASSES.

NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FROM Y'ALL.

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IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM IN OUR AGENDA TO BE HEARD WHICH IS A VARIANCE FOR THE CHEEK DETACHED GARAGE.

AND IS THE MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP HERE? AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED A PRESENTATION, I WOULD ASK IF THERE WAS ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ON THE PART OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.

>> THANK YOU, DR. MCCORMICK. YES, SIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MAX GARCIA. I'M THE MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP.

I'M SPEAKING AS THE PRESENTER FOR MY CLIENT AT THIS VARIANCE AT 7 WALDO STREET. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED. SHOULD BE UP --

>> YES DON'T YOU PULL THAT MIC OVER.

YOU WON'T TO HAVE KEEP LEANING OVER AND WE CAN HEAR YOU

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BETTER. >> THIS SHOULD BE THE PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR THE VARIANCE.

SO WE ARE REQUESTING A -- THIS IS A VARIANCE, A ZONING VARIANCE CASE 20 TWUNT-09 FOR 131 SOUTH WILLARD EVER WIRBLEDNESS AUSTRALIA ANOTHER PONTE VEDRA, FLORIDA.

MY CLIENT IS JULIA CHEEK AND THE CHEEK RESIDENCE.

THE FORMER APPLICANT IS KEVIN CONNORS AND I'M ACTING AS THE PRESENTER FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE NOTARIZED AUTHORIZATION TO THE STAFF PLANNERS. THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE AT 131 SOUTH WILDERNESS TRAIL.

THIS IS THE ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTION IN RED IS THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS OPEN RURAL AND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL B. AS PART OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST, WE ARE REQUESTING TO ALLOW A DETACHED GARAGE GREATER THAN THE MAIN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS P IT'SITES PARTED THE ZONING VARIANCE REQUEST. WE UNDER THE REQUEST SHOULD NOT BE CONTRARY TO PUBLIC PURPOSE OR THE PURPOSE OF THE LDC AND NOT OWING TO ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS UP 1ST EVER IS APPS LOT SHAPE OF, TOPOGRAPHIC CONDITIONS OR EXTRAORDINARY SITUATIONS, AND THAT THE LITERAL ENFORCEMENT OF THE LDC WILL RESULT IN UNNECESSARY AND UNDUE HARD THIPSHIP.

THE OF COURSE THE PZA IN ZA MY PROVIDE CONDITIONS FOR SAFE ARDS AS APPROPRIATE FOR IF LDC. -SPECIFICALLY WE ARE ASKING THE HEIGHT E. EAVE HEIGHT GREATER THAN THE MAIN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS FOR A GARAGE. SO ACCORDING TO SECTION 2.02.04-B ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE HAS TO BE DETACHED FROM THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE, WHICH I WILL SHOW IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDES, THAT IT IS MEETING THOSE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS. THE ANGST RI USE WILL NOT BE USED FOR ANY BUSINESSES. WILL IT NOT BE USED A DWELLING UNIT. ACCESSORY USE SHALL NOT ATTRACT VISITORS YOWFERREDZ WHAT WE CONSIDER IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THIS IS FOR THE USE OF THE FAMILY EXCLUSIVELY.

FOLLOWING THE STRUCTURE MUST ALSO BE ACCESSORY IN CISE TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE WHICH I WILL SHOW ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES NEM RECEIVE A BUILDINGS PERMIT FOR THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION.

AS PART OF THE REQUEST TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE, THE -- THIS MAY BE PERMITTED IF IT'S UNABLE TO BE VIEWED FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE DO YOU DEW TO DISTANCE OR SCREENING WITH LANDSCAPING OR FENCING.

HERE I HAVE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE AS LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS JUST IN FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS. THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE ROOF AND THE MAIN STRUCTURE IS 10 FEET.

THE SIDE SETBACK FROM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE WILL BE 3 FEET. THE EAVE -- AND THAT IS WHERE THE EAVE ENDS SO THAT THE BIGDZ ITSELF WITNESS THE FOOTPRINT IS 5 FEET AWAY. THE FOOT PRINCIPLED OF THE BUILDING IS 1250 SQUARE FEET. IT IS A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY 4 FEET ABOVE THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT IS SITTING AT 21 FEET AND 4 INCHES. THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, THE BOTTOM FLOOR WOULD BE DESIGNATED TO A THREE CAR GARAGE, THE TOP FLOOR WOULD BE UTILITY BATHROOM, CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE.

THE CLIENT HAS AN EXTENSIVE MUSIC EQUIPMENT COLLECTION AND RECORDS WHICH REQUIRE THE SPECIAL CLIMATE CONTROL TYPE OF STORAGE. THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS 26 FEET.

THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR THIS ZONING DESIGNATION FOR ANY STRUCTURE IS 35. THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS APPROXIMATELY 226 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.

I'LL GO ON TO SHOW HOW IT SCREENED FROM THE FRONT OF PROPERTY FLIENT FOLLOWING SLIDES.

THE BUILDINGS ITSELF WOULD BE ATTACHED VIA AN APRON TO AN EXISTING CIRCULAR DRIVE, AND THE CLIENT IS AWARE THAT THE BUILDINGS WILL BE ARCHITECTURAL CONSIST OF WITH THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE THAT IS EXISTING NOW. SO HERE'S A MORE ZOOMED IN LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN ITSELF GIVING SOME MORE OF THOSE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY US IS UP AS THE 10-FOOT SEPARATION THAT REQUIRES A 3-FOOT SETBACK AND ITS LOCATION IN PROXIMITY TO THE REST OF THE SITE.

SO HERE'S THREE PHOTOS FROM THE ROAD IN FRONT WILDERNESS TRAIL.

IF FIRST PHOTO IS ON THE NORTHERNMOST PORTION AS YOU APPROACH THE PROPERTY FACING DIRECTLY IN.

YOU CANNOT REALLY SEE MUCH. GOING ON TO THE SECOND PHOTO, THIS IS A PHOTO TAKEN STANDING IN THE APRON FACING TOWARD THE HOME AS IT IS SHOWN ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT WITH TREES, AND THERE IS A SMALL WELL PUMP HOUSE ON THE LEFT THERE AS WELL.

AND THEN FINALLY THE THIRD PHOTO SHOWS THE SENTENCE OF THE

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EASTERN SIDE. HERE'S ANOTHER PHOTO THAT OF THAT IS MORE PANORAMIC VIEW SHOWING THE CONTINUED SCREENING OF THE PROPERTY. LETTERS, A ALSO A PHOTO TAKEN FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOME FACING TOWARDS THE ROAD.

ONCE AGAIN, SHOWING AN EXAMPLE OF THE SCREEN THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING.

HERE'S A SPECIAL CONDITION REGARDING THE SITE ITSELF.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE APPLICANT CHOSE THE LOCATION THEY DID WAS BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION APPROXIMATELY TO WETLANDS. IN THIS CASE THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE X SHADE REGION WITH MODERATE FLOOD HAZARD, AND AS A RESULT DID NOT WANT TO PLACE THE STRUCTURE IN AN AREA THAT WAS LOWER THAN WHERE THEY HAD PROPOSED, WHICH IS IN A REGULAR X SHADED WITH MINIMAL FLOOD HAZARD.

WE DID RECEIVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. SINCE SUBMITTING THIS PRESENTATION, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE DIRECT SOUTH AT 141 SOUTH WILDERNESS TRAIL WILL PROVIDE AT ALL OF SUPPORT AS WELL IN ADDITION, AND THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACK PEPTS THE PROPERTY JUST NORTH AT 130 SOUTH AND THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AT 121 SOUTH WILDERNESS TRAIL ALSO PROVIDED LETTERS OF SUPPORT.

THESE WOULD BE THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD WOULD BE AE TO SEE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. ONE THING THE CLIENT HAD MENTIONED IS THAT THE SIDE OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FACING THE ROAD AND FACING NORTH TOWARDS THESE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, THE BUILDINGS WOULD NOT HAVE ANY WINDOWS SO THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO THEIR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. IN CONCLUSION, WE ARE REQUESTING AN APPROVAL OF THIS VARIANCE FOR AN EAVE HEIGHT GREATER THAN THE STRUCTURE. I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. ALSO MY CLIENT IS HERE TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT BY AGENCY MEMBERS? SHE GO NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? THEN WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

YES, MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2021-09 CHEEK DETACHED GARAGE, GORE A ZONING VARIANCE SECTION 20204B4 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PERMIT A DETACHED GARAGE WITH AN EVE HEIGHT GREATER THAN THE MAIN RESIDENTIAL BUILDING LOCATED AT 131 SUBJECT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS

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>> WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. MILLER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING MON, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT MOTION PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEMS NUMBER 2 ON THE AGENDA, MR. WHITEHOUSE. IF THERE IS ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE, I'D ASK THE MEMBERS TO DO IT NOW.

>> . I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. WHITE HOUSE LAST NIGHT ABOUT THE PARTICULARS AND WHY THIS WAS NECESSARY, WHAT THE HARDSHIP WAS FOR THIS VARIANCE.

>> I ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM, AND I VIEWED THE

PROPERTY. >> YOU HAVE THE FLOOR,

MR. WHITEHOUSE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

FOR THE RECORD JAMES WHITEHOUSE STMG 1141 HERE IN STNS FLORIDA HERE ON BEHALF OF THE YOU ARE URBANEKS.

JUST TO GO OVER THEM REAL QUICK, IT'S LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THE 206 BRIDGE IN CRESCENT BEACH OFF -- YOU TAKE THE SIDE ROAD DOWN ANGELSON WHICH GOES UP THIS WAY AND BROWARD STREET SO THEY'RE RIGHT HERE ON THE BEACH.

IT'S RES-C COASTAL FUTURE LAND USE AND IT'S RS-3.

AGAIN, HERE'S AN AERIAL THAT SHOWS A LITTLE BETTER WHERE IT IS AND SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE GONE BY THE BUT AGAIN YOU COME OFF A1A SOUTH ON GELSON AND THEIR PROPERTY IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A LITTLE CLOSE-UP OF THEIR PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALREADY BUILT AND YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS AREA AND THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE AREA WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT WE'RE HERE FOR THIS. THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES, THEY'RE ALL IN YOUR PACKET BUT THESE WERE THE APPROVED PLANS AND THE WALL, SECURITY WALL AND RETAINING WALL WERE BOTH ON PLANS THEMSELVES. AFTER THE -- AFTER THE HOUSE WAS BUILT AND THEY WENT FOR THE FINAL CL, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS REALIZED THAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A VARIANCE BECAUSE THE HEIGHT OF THE RETAINING WALL AND SECURITY WALL EXCEED THE MAXIMUM

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AND IN ANY CASE, SINCE THIS PROPERTY IS HERE, THEY HAVE -- THEY'RE CONSIDERED TO HAVE TWO FRONTS UNDER THE CODE, AND SO THEIR PROPERTY HAD TO BE SET BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THIS SIDE BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS, AND SO NOT ONLY IS IT THE TOPOGRAPHY BUT THE NARROWNESS OF THE LOT WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE LOTS AROUND THEM THAT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH IN MINUTE TO TAK ABOUT THE REASONS FOR THIS VARIANCE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE PART OF THE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED.

YOU CAN SEE APPROVED BY ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

THIS HAS THE WALL ON IT. IT SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY.

THIS ONE, ALL THESE MR. YOUR PACKET BUT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU AGAIN I OUTLINED THIS IS THE LOWEST POINT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WALL AND THEN THE TOPOGRAPHY VARIES ALL AROUND IT.

AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY OVER HERE IS THE AREA THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED BUT FOR MAYBE A WALKOVER IF THAT GETS APPROVED==. AND THEN AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH THE NOTICE HAS TO GO OUT TO SAY THIS IS A REQUEST FOR THE 14 FEET, IT'S NOT 14 FEET THE WHOLE WAY. I WENT THROUGH AND OUTLINED IT FOR YOU PURSUANT TO STAFF REQUEST, AND REALLY IT'S THE ONLY ONE POINT WHERE IT'S THE HOST POINT IN THE TOPOGRAPHY THAT IS 14 FEET. THE REST OF IT STARTS GOING UP WAY TO THE WEST AND STARTS GOING UP THERE WAY TO THE EAST, AND REALLY RIGHT ON EACH END IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE LEGAL HEIGHT WHICH IS 6 FEET ON THE SIDE. I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE DEFINITION OF VARIANCE, AN UNDERSTANDING OF IT.

AGAIN, I HAVE THE DEFINITION FROM THE CODE DOWN HERE AND AGAIN IT SHOWS A PICTURE OF TOPOGRAPHY.

THIS IS THE LOT ITSELF. THIS IS LOOKING BACK TO THE EAST. THIS IS THE WALL OVER ON THIS SIDE BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT GOES DOWN IN THE HOLE LIKE YOU SAW FROM THE TOP GRAPHIC MAP AND THIS IS TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF THIS PICTURE, AND THE DUNES GO UP.

AGAIN, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ROAD, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE BACK TO HER BECAUSE OF THIS DUNE THAT GOES UP IN THE FRONT. I WON'T BELABOR THE ISSUE BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE FOR A REQUEST FOR VARIANCE FROM 2.00 II 04B4 WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE WALLS AND ARE IT WAS ALL AND FENCES FORE RESIDENCES IN IN ZONING CATEGORY IN IN LOCATION.

AGAIN, IT'S REALLY A WALL THAT VARIES FROM 6 FEET TO 14 FEET, NOT JUST A 14-FOOT, BUT THE MOTION'S IN YOUR PACKET.

I'LL GO I THROUGH IT REAL QUICKLY, THE VARIANCE CRITERIA BUT YOU ALL KNOW THEM. ONE IS NOT TON CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS ITSELF IS NOT CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST. IT'S BASED ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE WHICH IS NOSILY TOPOGRAPHY, A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE NARROWNESS OF THE LOT AND ALSO BY WAY OF USE OF THE ADJOINING PARCEL WHICH IS A COUNTY UNOPENED RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THEY'RE FORCED TO SIT BACK A LITTLE BIT.

AND THERE'S NO REAL -- A LOT OF TEES HAD KIND LOTS, THE ONES RIGHT NEXT TO THEM ARE DEVELOPED LATER AND THEIR FILLED AND SO IT MIGHT MIGHT NOT HAVE AN ISSUE LIKE THIS.

THIS ONE IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE HEIGHT OF THIS BALM LIKE I SAID, THE REASONS ARE THE NARROWNESS, THE USE OF THE ADJOINING LOT.D THE- THE LITERARY ENFORCEMENT OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE WOULD CAUSE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HARD TO RETAIN SAND ON THAT LOT TO BE ABLE TO STABLE TIETZ BUILD THEIR RESIDENCE.

DISPIENL RIGHTS NOTE CONTRARY TO THE PIRT SPIRIT AND PURPOSE OF THE CODE BECAUSE THE SPIRIT AND PURPOSE OF THE CODE ALLOW FOR VARIANCES OF TOPOGRAPHY FOR REASONS I'VE STATED.

AND THIS IS THE PICTURE FROM THE STAFF REPORT.

YOU CAN SEE IT PRETTY CLEARLY. EVEN THOUGH YOU SANTEE CAN'T SIGHT FROM THE ROAD YOU SEE HOW IT GOES DOWN AND BACKS UP.

THIS IS THE 6-FOOT SECURITY FENCE, AND THE 14-FOOT IS ABOUT HERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN AS I SHOWED YOU FROM THE DIE AM.

>> , AND I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER ONE, IT GOES UP ON EITHER SIDE==. WE HAVE TALKED TO BOTH IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. THIS IS THE ONE TO THE NORTH.

THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

THE ONE HOE WOULD BE THE MOST SPHEACTD AND THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN REALLY SIGHT THERON SOMEBODY WHO WENT BACK IN THE EASEMENT WHB THESE ARE THE PEOPLE TO THE SOUTH, AND AS YOU CAN READ AND I THINK IT'S IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT AT ALL, AND THEY NOTATE THE FACT THAT IT'S REALLY NOT A 14-FOOT WALL -- MOST OF IT'S HIDDEN OR NOT AT THAT OF THE DUNE STRUCTURE. I WON'T GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

FINALLY, AS A SAID, WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THIS VARIANCE BASED THE ON CONDITIONS OF THE LOT, AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY

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QUESTION? >> I AM PREPARED TO MAKE A

PROPOSAL. >> WE HAVEN'T CALLED FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT YET. >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.

PHIL MILLER. IF YOU COULD COME UP, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> PHIL MILLER 288 DESOTO ROAD. I'M ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY FOR TO OPEN UP BEACH ACCESS WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS, A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP SO I WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THE SITE AND IT LOOKS GREAT, SO FULL SUPPORT OF THE FAMILY TO KEEP THEIR WALL THE WAY IT IS.

>> THANK YOU. NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> NO, SIR. >> OKAY.

SO WE ARE NOW BACK INTO THE AGENCY.

DR. MCCORMICK FOR A MOTION. >> MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2021-11 URBANEK RESIDENCE, A REQUEST FOR A ZONING VARIANCE TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 2.02.04. B2012 TO ALLOW FOR AN EXISTING 14-FOOT SECURITY/RETAINING WALL TO REMAIN ON THE SECOND FRONT PROPERTY LINE IN LIEU OF THE MAXIMUM 6-FOOT ALLOWANCE IN RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RS-3 ZONING, SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT 6494 BROWARD STREET, BASED ON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED BY THE STAFF REPORT.

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>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED.

YOU'RE WELCOME. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3 ON THE AGENDA, AND THIS IS PRESENTED BY TIM LUYCX.

IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ON THE PART OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.

>> I VISITED THE SITE, ALSO. >> OKAY.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. >> YES, SIR.

I'M TIM LUX WITH D LUKDZ HOMES. I'M A LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR HERE IN FLORIDA REPRESENTING ANGIE SMITH FOR THE VARIANCE AT 51 CAT ROAD. WE'RE REQUESTING TWO VARIANCES.

THERE'S A 25-FOOT SETBACK VARIANCE FOR A STRUCTURE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY. WE'RE ASKING THAT WE HAVE A STRUCTURE MOVED FORWARD 25-FOOT TO THE ROAD SO IT'S EVEN WITH THE PROPERTY LINE SO THAT THE FENCE LINE COMES STRAIGHT ACROSS INTO THE BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF IT BEING 25-FOOT SET BACK, AND ALSO A VARIANCE FOR THE FENCE TO BE 6-FOOT TALL RATHER THAN THEIR 4-FOOT. THE REASON WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE 6-FOOT IS BECAUSE ALL THE NEIGHBORS' FENCES ARE 6-FOOT AND THEY LINE UP WITH THE 6-FOOT HEIGHT.

SO AESTHETICALLY IT WOULD BE PLEASING TO THE NEIGHBORS TOO.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY AN UPGRADE TO THE ROAD, AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

AND ANGIE REQUESTS THIS BUILDINGS BE THERE TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO GIVE ALL THE UPS THROIFERS -- SHE DOES A LOT OF SHOPPING ON AMGZ AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO COME UP TO HER HOUSE, AND THIS STRUCTURE IS, THAT'S BUILT IN THE FRONT, IS ABOUT 274 SQUARE FOOT. IT HATES ROOM ON EACH SIDE WHICH WILL HAVE A CODE TO GET IN SO THAT ALL OF HER UPS PEOPLE CAN HAVE THOSE CODES AND THEY WILL NEVER ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH HER DOOR. SHE'S A SINGLE WOMAN, LIVES ALONE ON THE PROPERTY, SO SECURITY IS A BIG THING WITH HER. SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE VARIANCE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TO MOVE THE BUILDING FORWARD.

IT'S 274 SQUARE FOOT. APPROXIMATELY 19-FOOT HIGH, 12-FOOT DEEP, 27-FOOT WIDE. AND THEN A 6-FOOT HIGH METAL

FENCE. >> OKAY.

>> ALUMINUM FENCE. I'M SORRY.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? OKAY. NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

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DR. MCCORMICK. >> WELL, ON THIS ONE I WAS WAITING TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS ALL ABOUT SECURITY.

I MEAN, SHE'S PUTTING THAT BIG FENCE IN THERE, AND THAT BIG GATEWAY IN THERE TO PROTECT THOSE DID ONLINE MENCH E MERCHANDISE WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDS OR UPS AND APPARENTLY SHE GETS A LOT OF BIG PACKAGES.

>> SHE DOES. AND SHE DOESN'T WANT THEM ON HER

PROPERTY. >> PLUS SHE HAS TWO BIG DOGS THAT ARE ALSO THERE FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.

>> YES, SIR. >> AND SHE'S AN ATTORNEY.

>> YES. >> SO AS A READ THIS AND AS I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY OUT THERE, IT'S ALL ABOUT SECURITY FOR HER MERCHANDISE THAT SHE WAS RECEIVING, AND SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GOIFT THAT GIVE OUT TE CODE TO EVERYBODY EITHER SO THAT'S WHY SHE HAS IT SET UP WHERE SHE HAS A BUILDING ON EACH SIDE WHERE THE GATE IS ALSO. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, NOT HAVING HEARD ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ELSE THAT LIVES IN THAT AREA THERE THAT DON'T SEEM TO BE OPPOSED TO IT, I CERTAINLY WONT BE OPPOSED TO IT, EITHER. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS

RESOLUTION. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? MS. PERKINS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF. >> YES.

>> IS THIS TYPE OF VARIANCE ALONG CAT ROAD, IS IT COMMON VARIANCE TO COME BEFORE HERE? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE ON CAT ROAD. I'VE SEEN ONE ON ROSCOE.

THE NEIGHBORS, HAVE THEY COME BEFORE THE COUNTY AND ASKED FOR A VARIANCE OF THE 6-FOOT HIGH FENCE AND THE 25-FOOT TO ZERO

FOOT SETBACK? >> I AM NOT FAMILIAR THAT WE HAVE ANY VARIANCES FOR THIS THAT HAS COME INTO PLAY ON CAT ROAD OR LINES ROSCOE BOULEVARD. I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF THEM.

WE DID HAVE A FENCE VARIANCE ON CAT ROAD A FEW MONTHS AGO OR MAYBE A YEAR AGO. WE DID HAVE A FENCE VARIANCE THERE WHICH ULTIMATELY WAS APPROVED, I BELIEVE.

>> COULD I MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT?

>> THAT'S APPROVED. >> NO, SIR.

SHE ASKED A QUESTION OF STAFF. >> OH, OKAY.

>> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> SURE. THANK YOU.

>> WHAT DID YOU HAVE TO SAY, SIR?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT ALL THE FENCES IN THAT AREA ARE 6-FOOT, AND I BELIEVE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST THROW THEM UP AND DON'T EVEN REALIZED THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE THEM 6-FOOT, AND THERE WAS AN ISSUE ON A HOUSE A COUPLE -- A FEW HOUSES AWAY WHERE THEY BUILT THIS JOINED EVER GIANT MONSTEROUS TIFF A FENCE AND ALL THE MOOSHES WERE IN AN UPROAR ABOUT THAT AND DIDN'T TAKE OUT A PERMIT OR ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO THIS THE LEGAL WAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. AGENCY.

ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? DR. MCCORMICK.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION ON. MOTION IS TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANC 20-23 SUBJECT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF

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>> ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY DR. MCCORMICK. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> GOT A SECOND BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. THAT MOTION PASSES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4, AND MR. GARCIA.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE WITH

REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 4? >> YES, I DROVE BY THE

PROPERTY. >> THANK YOU, MR. PIERRE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS.

MAX GARCIA REPRESENTING MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP 7 WALDO STREET I'M REPRESENTING MY CLIENT ERIN GIBSON WITH VICTORY PREPARATORY SCHOOL. THIS IS FOR A MIRREN MODIFICATION 2021-07 FOR VICTORY PREP SCHOOL.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2497 US-1 SUITE A IN THE LEWIS POINT PLAZA. THIS IS ZONING MAP OF THE LOCATION. I'VE STARRED THE LOCATION OF THE TENANT SPACE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE LEWIS POINT PSD. IT IS SURROUND ON ALL SIDES BY % VARIETY OF ZONING DESIGNATIONS. THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWING THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICTS, AS IS THE ROUNDING PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE PLAZA. WE ARE REQUESTING A MINOR MODIFICATION. LISTED IN ARTICLE 5 WANT 03.9.

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WE ARE ASKING FOR A NEW PERMITTED USE OF A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITHIN THE LEWIS POINT PLAZA PSD.

THERE'S NO REDUCTION OF OPEN SPACE, NO CHANGES IN THE LOCATION OR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, NO HEIGHT CHANGE, AND NO INCREASE OF DENSITY. ADDITIONALLY AS PART OF THIS REQUEST STAFF IS RECOGNIZING A DISTANCE SEPARATION OF 1,000 FEET WAIVED FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE RETAILERS AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE REQUEST FOR THE MINORED MOD FISSION DOOT LEWIS 1PSD IS TO ALLOW FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL IN A TENANT SAIS EXCLUSIVE AT THE SOUTHERNMOST END OF THE LEWIS POINT PLAZA. THE VERY LAST TENANT SPACE CLOSEST TO LEWIS POINT ROAD TO THE SOUTH THERE.

IT WILL BE THE ONLY TENANT SPACE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS PROPOSED USE. IN ADDITION WE ARE REQUESTING RELIEF FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO BE 1,000 FEET IN MINIMUM FROM A ALCOHOLIC RETAILER -- I'M SORRY, A RETAILER OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. THIS MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THAT WE ARE APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET AN EXISTING LIQUOR STORE NAMED GOLDEN OX. THE TENANT IS PROPOSING TO REUSE A PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED HOSPICE CENTER AND WOULD BE REUSING THE INSIDE AND WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE OF USE CONTINGENT ON THE DECISION OF THIS BOARD. A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE SCHOOL ITSELF, IT'S A SMALL CHRISTIAN SCHOOL.

AT THIS LOCATION THEY WILL BE OFFERING SIXTH TO 12TH GRADE CLASSES. THE THE SCHOOL ITSELF HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED IN 2005. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE EXISTING OFF OF MASTER DRIVE IN ST. AUGUSTINE.

THEY WILL HAVE SEVEN FULL-TIME TEACHERS, TWO ADMINISTRATORS.

THEY ARE REGISTERED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND HAVE NATIONAL ACCREDITATION, AND THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL IS GOING TO FOCUS ON CAREER PREPARATION FOR COLLEGE AND/OR WORKFORCE.

THEY ANTICIPATE SCHOOL STARTING WITH 58.

THEY HAVE AN AVERAGE FIVE GRADUATES PER YEAR.

THE CLIENT IS HERE TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT VICTORY PREPARATORY SCHOOL AT THIS PROPOSED LOCATION AS WELL AS ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU MIGHT BE CURIOUS ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO THE SCHOOL.

ONE THING WE ARE ADDRESSING WITH REGARDS TO THE REQUEST FOR THE USE AS WELL AS IF SEPARATION BETWEEN THE GOLDEN OX RETAILER OFFAL CHOIC SES ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, THERE ARE SEVERAL TENANTS SPACES BETWEEN THEM. LIKE I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER THEY ARE APPROXIMATELY 600 FEET FROM THE LIQUOR RETAILER, AND WITHIN THAT SAME PLAZA THERE ARE NO SHARED WALLS BETWEEN THEM AND THIS RETAILER AND THERE'S ABOUT TEN TENANTS OF SEPARATION.

I SHOW THE GOLDEN OX LIQUOR AND WINE STORE IN BOLD AND TOWARDS THE BOTTOM AS YOU GO DOWN, NUTRITION, SAVE A LOT, MOVING DOWN TO FAMILY DOLLAR AND THEN FINALLY THE HAVEN ATTIC RESALE.

THIS LOCATION IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE HOSPICE THAT MANAGES THE CURRENT HAVEN ATTIC RESALE SHOP THERE.

VICTORY PREP SCHOOL WOULD BE LEASED OUT TO THEM.

SO JUST A QUICK SHOWING OF THESE PHOTOS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW FAR AWAY THIS LOCATION IS AS I WAS MENTIONING, HERE'S THE RETAIL STORE THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO WHERE THE PROPOSED SCHOOL IS ON PHOTO 1. PHOTO 2 SHOWS THE NEXT IN-LINE TENANTS ADJACENT TO HAVEN RETAIL -- THE HAVEN RESALE STORE FOLLOWING ONTO THE ANCHOR TEN ANT FAMILY DOLLAR, FOLLOWED BY THE MORE IN-LINE TENANT, FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER ANCHOR TENANT WITH SAVE A LOT AND PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A PLANET FITNESS AND THE TENANT SPACE ADJACENT TO THAT.

FINALLY THERE IS ANOTHER GRIEWCHG IN-LINE TENANTS BEFORE YOU GET TO THE RETAIL STORE. THERE IS CURRENTLY A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION WITHIN THE IN-LINE TENANTS.

PHOTO 2. I CAN'T SPECIFY WHICH ONE IT IS BASED ON THIS PHOTO BUT THERE IS A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES EDUCATIONAL SERVICES, AND IT'S A VIRTUAL CURRICULUM ON-SITE CERTIFICATION AND IT HAS ON-SITE CERTIFIED TEACHERS PROVIDING VIRTUAL CLASSES. THEY'VE BEEN AT THAT SITE, ACCORDING TO THE BUSINESS, APPROXIMATELY NINE YEARS.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA THAT A SIMILAR EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT IS EXISTING IN THIS PLAZA.

THE NEAT THING ABOUT THIS PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE TENANT SPACE IS THAT THE INTERIOR OF THE EXISTING HOSPICE -- PREVIOUSLY EXISTING HOSPICE USE, THIS LAYOUT IS VERY MUCH WHAT OUR CLIENT NEEDS. THEY DON'T PROPOSE VERY MANY CHANGES, IF ANY, TO THE INTERIOR.

THE ARCHITECT HAS PREPARED PLANS.

THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH BUILDINGS CODES AND INTENDS TO SUBMIT BASED ON THE DECISION OF THIS LORD BOARD.

THEY WILL BE MINIMAL CHALLENGES ON THE PHYSICAL LAYOUT.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA TO RERIENT YOURSELF ON THE SITE THERE'S A RED CIRCLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PLAN.

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WE ARE REQUESTING AN APPROVAL OF THIS MINOR MODIFICATION.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ADDITIONALLY, MY CLIENT WITH VICTORY PREP IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

>> ALL RIGHT. DOES -- DO ANY OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. PIERRE.

>> YES. SO CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIRED DISTANCE FROM THE LIQUOR STORE TO THE

SCHOOL? >> 1,000 FEET, SIR.

>> THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE NOW?

YOU WERE ASKING FOR HOW MUCH? >> THE STORE IS APPROXIMATELY 600, SO WE'LL BE 600 FEET AWAY. THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE 1 HOW BE THIO, IS 1,000. WE ALSO ASK THAT THE USE BE APPROVED IN ADDITION TO THE SEPARATION REQUIREMENT TO BE

WAIVED. >> ANY OTHER AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE A QUESTION? I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YES, SIR. >> THIS BUILDING IS OWNED BY

HOSPICE. >> CORRECT.

THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED TENANT, YES, SIR.

>> THE REST OF THE BUILDING IS OWNED BY ONE OWNER? THE REST OF THE COMMERCIAL USES?

>> BY ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER, YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. SO IT'S TWO OWNERS FOR THIS

ENTIRE SHOPPING PLAZA. >> I'M ON AWARE OF THE TWO, YES,

SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, RANDALL WHITFIELD. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> RAN DAN WHITFIELD, 7880 GATE PARKWAY, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BLISS POINT PLAZA LLC, THE OWNERS OF CENTER.

WE DON'T OBJECT TO THE USE THAT THEY HAVE.

WE JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED AS WELL, THAT IF THEY WEREN'T THERE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR LIQUOR USE AND BE FREE TO DO THAT WITHIN THE ZONING THAT WE HAVE. WITH THEM COMING IN, MY CONCERN IS FUTURE USE, CURRENT TENANTS AND FUTURE TENANTS THAT WOULD GO THERE, SERVING ALCOHOL OR HAVING A PACKAGE STORE, SO THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS. MY OTHER CONCERN IS JUST SAFETY. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE SCHOOL, MS. ARRON, AND TALKED ABOUT LOADING AND UNLOADING AND WHERE THEY WOULD DO THAT, AND HOW VISITORS COME AND GO FROM THE FACILITY, AND IF THERE WERE ANY STUDENT DRIVERS, HOW MANY AND WHERE THEY WOULD PARK, SO WE'RE SATISFIED WITH SOME OF THEY ARE CONTROL FACTORS. MY MAIN CONCERN IS STILL REMAINING, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT THROUGH YOU WE'RE ABLE TO STILL MAINTAIN OUR RIGHTS TO LIQUOR SERVICE THERE IN THE PLAZA, WHICH WE CURRENTLY ARE ABLE TO DO.

I . I WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO TOMORROW THAT I CAN DO TODAY. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

>> THANK YOU, MR. WHITFIELD. NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, RIGHT? OKAY. SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY AT THIS POINT, AND I'M GOING ASK DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, MR. PIERRE. GO AHEAD.

>> I JUST HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT KIND OF SETS THE PRECEDENCE BECAUSE IT LIMITS THE USE OF THIS FACILITY FOR ANY OTHER THINGS, ANY OTHER INSTITUTION OR IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT ANOTHER ALCOHOL STUFF THERE, SO THIS SCHOOL IS SETTING A PRECEDENT. ONCE WE, IF WE APPROVE THIS, THE USE IS GOING TO BE LIMITED FOR WHAT GOES IN THERE.

THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN. >> AND THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION OF STAFF, ALSO. IS THERE WAY FOR US TO CONDITION THIS SO THAT IF A RESTAURANT WANTED TO COME INTO THIS CENTER, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD TO HAVE A VARIANCE APPROVED BECAUSE CLEARLY THEY WOULD BE WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE SCHOOL OR IS THERE JUST NO WAY FOR US TO DO

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FUTURE? >> I THINK THAT THE BOARD COULD CLARIFY IN ITS FINDINGS HOW THE SEPARATION DISTANCE APPLIES.

I THINK YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT APPLIES TO EXISTING AND FUTURE

ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS. >> OKAY.

SO WE COULD ACTUALLY REDUCE IT FROM 600 FEET TO ZERO FEET IF WE

CHOSE. >> IF YOU CHOSE, OR YOU COULD CHOOSE TO HAVE A MINIMUM SEPARATION.

IT'S WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ASK FOR A MOTION AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT OF THIS ONE ONCE WE GET A MOTION IN PLACE. MS. PERKINS.

>> FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION, MOTION TO APPROVE MINOR MOD 2021-07 SUBJECT TO SIX CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> I'VE GOT A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND BY MR. MILLER.

NOW AM I GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

YES, GO AHEAD, MS. PERKINS. >> I THINK IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT SOME SORT OF LIMITATION AS FAR AS OTHER PEOPLE COMING INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER WHEN THIS IS APPROVED OR IF IT'S APPROVED AND NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH US AGAIN TO GET A VARIANCE, WHAT THAT DISTANCE LIMITATION IS I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

BUT I THINK THERE CERTAINLY SHOULD BE A LIMITATION SO THAT

THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK. >> YES, MR. PIERRE.

>> SEE, SO NOW FOR ME IT'S NO LONGER REVERSED BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THINGS THAT GO IN THERE WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE BOARD, THEN I HAVE THE CASE OF THE SCHOOL WHO MIGHT BE AT RISK. EITHER WAY YOU PUT IT WE HAVE A SAFETY ISSUE. BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT A LIQUOR STORE RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.

>> ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THIS?

MR. MILLER. >> SO MY THOUGHT WOULD BE SORT OF THE COMPROMISE. I AGREE WITH THE LIQUOR STORE ISSUE BUT AS TO A RESTAURANT, I WOULDN'T.

IF WE HAD THE DISTANCE LIMITATION BE ZERO BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE RESTAURANT THAT SERVED ALCOHOL, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF A NEW LIQUOR STORE COMES IN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS USUALLY BY EXCEPTION OR BY WAIVER, THEY MIGHT TO HAVE COME IN ANY WAY, SO IT MIGHT BE AN ALLOWED USE IN HERE, BUT -- SO I'D BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE ELIMINATION WITHIN THIS PUD, THE DISTANCE DOWN TO ZERO FOR RESTAURANTS SERVING ALCOHOL. THEN IT WOULD BE A PACKAGE STOR

STORE. >> MARIE, DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE COMING IN?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MARIE COLEE FOR THE RECORD, GROWTH MANAGEMENT. ANOTHER LIQUOR STORE, MAY BE AN ISSUE ALTHOUGH THE PSD ALLOWS FOR ALCOHOL SALES BY RIGHT.

I WAS JUST DISCUSSING WITH MS. BISHOP, THOUGH, THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME BIGGER ANCHOR TENANT SPACES IN THERE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BECOME VACANT, THEY MAY MEET THAT CRITERIA THAT WOULD EXEMPT THEM FROM THE SEPARATION AS WELL, SO IF IT'S 2500 SQUARE FEET AND HAS 150 FEET, THEY COULD SELL FULL LIQUOR ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTAURANT.

THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL.

>> WHAT IF THE CURRENT LIQUOR STORE CLOSED DOWN? WOULD A NEW LIQUOR STORE HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD?

>> THAT SEEMS TO BE THE QUESTION AMONG THE AGENCY MEMBERS AT THIS POINT. YES.

RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY A NEW -- ANY TYPE OF NEW LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME IN WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FILE THE MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE

THE SCHOOL WOULD BE -- >> NO, NO, ASSUME THE SCHOOL WAS

NOT AS THERE. >> NO.

>> IT WOULD NOT NEED TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD.

A LIQUOR STORE ANYWHERE IN THAT CENTER.

>> CORRECT. >> MR. WHITFIELD, COULD YOU COME UP UP HERE FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE I ASK MR. WHITFIELD HIS OPINION HERE? MR. WHITFIELD, YOU HEARD THE GROUP UP HERE TALK ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, A RESTAURANT WHICH CLEARLY I THINK MR. MILLER SAYS HE'S WILLING TO GO TO ZERO FEET, BUT A LIQUOR STORE, PERHAPS ALL THE MEMBERS

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IS THERE A DISTANCE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR A LIQUOR STORE THAT STILL NOT BIND YOU TOO MUCH? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT TWO LIQUOR STORES IN THERE ANYWAY, I DON'T THINK, SO COULD WE RESTRICT THE LIQUOR STORE TO THAT CURRENT LOCATION I GUESS IS

THE QUESTION. >> WE HAVE -- AS WAS POINTED OUT, WE DO HAVE A BIG BOX IN THERE.

THIS WAS A FORMER FOOD LINE D LION CENTER, AND IF WE ARE ABLE% TO GET A GROCERY BACK IN THERE, THAT WOULD -- IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET ONE BACK IN THERE, MOST GROCERY STORES NOW FRY TO HAVE A LIQUOR COMPONENT, SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, SO MAYBE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT OF 150 FEET, 200 FEET MAX, IF WE COULD DO THAT.

>> OKAY. AND IS THERE A SEPARATION BETWEEN THIS BUILDINGS AND THE NEXT SPACE OVER OR ARE THEY

CONNECT? >> THEY'RE BASICALLY -- THERE'S COMMON WALLS, BUT EACH -- EACH BUILDING HAS A WALL BUT THEY'RE

RIGHT UP AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WHITFIELD? I THINK THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU. SO YOU SAID 200 FEET, THE DISTANCE TO THE BIG BOX IS 200 FEET FROM THE BACK.

>> IT IS A LITTLE MORE THAN 200 FEET, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW

THAT WOULD EXPAND. >> YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE THE BOARD, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WITH WE WANT TO HAVE A AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION OFFERED OR WHETHER WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH VOTING ON THE MOTION AS PRESENTED.

>> I'LL OFFER AN AMENDMENT. TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE A DISTANCE NO FURTHER THAN 200 FEET ALLOWED FOR A PACKAGE STORE OR RESTAURANT, NO CLOSER THAN 200 FEET TO THE SCHOOL.

>> SO WE HAVE A MOTION, SO I THINK IT -- LET'S MAKE SURE I HAVE IT CORRECT. AS LONG AS ANY ESTABLISHMENT SERVING LIQUOR OR SELLING LIQUOR IS 200.1 FEET AWAY, THEN THERE WOULD BE NO RESTRICTION ON THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.

IS THAT YOUR AMENDMENT? SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT 200-FOOT DISTANCE SEPARATION. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. MILLER. NOW IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? HEARING NONE, LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT.

SO THE AMENDMENT PASSES. NOW I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE ACTUAL MOTION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AT THIS POINT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

SOMETHING DIDN'T WORK. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE APPROVED ITEM NUMBER 4 BASED ON THE STAFF'S REPORT

[5. MINMOD 2020-05 St. Johns Interchange Parcels (Lots 14-19).]

LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5 ON THE AGENDA, AND MS. ELLEN AVERY-SMITH. THERE SHE IS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE ON ITEM NUMBER 5? NONE? OKAY. MS. SMITH.

>> I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M LOOKING FOR THE REMOTE

CONTROL. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHO WAS THE LAST PERSON TO USE THE PODIUM? THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MR. GARCIA.

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I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OLD SCHOOL AND PUT.

THE PAPER COPY UP ON THERE. HOW WOULD THAT GO? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. ELLEN AVERY-SMITH, ROGERS TOWERS 100 WETSTONE PLACE, ST. AUGUSTINE AND WITH ME TODAY FROMD D.R. HORTON IS ANTHONY SHARP.

DR HORTON IS FOUR STAR WHICH IS ATTORNEY OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE LOTS AROUND IT IS THE SUBSIDIARY OFDR HORTON OR AN AFFILIATE OF DR HORTON JUST FOR THE RECORD.

SO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE PARKLAND PRESERVE PROJECT WHICH IS AT THE NORTHEAST --

>> EXCUSE ME, MS. SMITH. >> YES.

>> I'M GOING ASK THE VICE CHAIR TO SIT IN FOR ME BECAUSE HAVE A CONFLICT. I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS DR HORTON IT. DOESN'T SAY THAT IN OUR

PACKAGE. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. WELL, MADAME CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT. CONTINUING ON, AGAIN THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE I-95 AND INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY WITHIN THE PARKLAND PRESERVE AREA. JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION, THERE ARE -- THERE'S AN EXISTING FLAT EXISTING PLALT THAT'S RECORD TO HOLD TITLE.

THERE ARE FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT EASEMENTS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SECTIONS OF THESE LOTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE AND I WILL SHOW YOU THE DIMENSIONS OF THE FP&L EASEMENTS AND THE LOCATIONS OF THEM IN JUST A MINUTE.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE FRONT YARD SETBACKS FOR LOTS 14 AND 19, AND I'LL SHOW THAT YOU DETAIL IN A MINUTE, FROM 20 FEET TO 15 FEET, AND THEN FOR LOTS 15, 16, 17 AND 18 FROM 20 FEET TO 10 FEET. AND AS PART OF THIS PROCESS IN WORKING THROUGH WITH MS. RANDOLPH AND MR. DESOUZA, DR HORTON OR FORESTAR HAS A PREED TO MOVE THE SIDEWALK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON SIDE OF THE STREET TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE FOR VEHICLE STANG PURPOSES, AND AGAIN I'LL SHOW THAT YOU DETAIL IN JUST A MINUTE. IS ON IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKLAND PRESERVE PHASE 1 PLAT, YOU WILL SEE THE LOTS THAT ARE IN THIS AREA. I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN ON THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITERALLY -- HANG ON, I'VE GOT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE -- IF YOU LOOK, THEY START ACTUALLY HERE.

HERE'S LOT 14, 15. YOU SEE THE FP&L EASEMENT HERE AND YOU SEE AN FP&L EASEMENT ON THE FRONT ALONG E BETTERS LANDING AND OONG BASHINGLAND AUSTRALIA.

THAT'S LOTS 14 AND 15. THE THEN YOU GO TO LOTS 17, 18, 19, AND 20. YOU SEE THE SAME FP&L EASEMENTS ALONG EEG RECEIPTS LANDING LANDING AND ALONG PARKLAND FRAIL AS IT'S BEEN EXTENDS. AND SO THAT OBVIOUSLY I'M GOING TO CALL I BOXES IN AT THE DEVELOPABILITY OF THESE LOTS WHICH GOES RELATED TO THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOTS AS THEY ARE PLATTED AND INTENDED TO BE USED.

AGAIN, YOU SEE E GREETS EGS LANDING AND THE LOTS FOR THE HOMES. YOU SEE THE FP&L EAST PS THIS WOULD BE THE BACKYARDS OF THE HOMES WHEN AN FP&L EASEMENT RIGHT UP TO THE HOMES AND THEN YOU SEE AN FP&L EASEMENT ON THE FRONT PART. THE LOTS ARE ORIENTED OR THE HOMES ARE ORIENTED TOWARDS EGRETS LANDING LANE.

THEY BACK UP TO PARKLAND PRESERVE.

SO THE OWNER PURCHASED THESE LOTS FROM THE PUD MASTER DEVELOPER, AND THE LOTS CONTAINED THESE 10-FOOT FP&L EASEMENTS IN BOTH THE FRONT AND REAR YARDS TO MAKE THE PLACEMENTS OF HOMES WITH ANY BACKYARDS FOR RECREATION, SWIMMING POOLS, ALL OF THAT DIFFICULT BECAUSE, ONE, SOME OF THE LOTS ARE IRREGULARLY CONFIGURED, AND, TWO, THE THEY CONTAIN 20 FEET OF FP&L EASEMENTS THAT ARE BASICALLY NOT DEVELOPABLE AS FAR AS PROVIDING ANY STRUCTURES THEREIN.

EACH OF THESE HOMES WILL CONTAIN A TWO-CAR GARAGE AND A DRIVEWAY, AND I'M GOING NOW TO THE PARKING ISSUE, AND THEN THE PROJECT SURVEYOR HAS DETERMINED OR S. HAS INFORMED US THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FRONT YARDS SETBACK, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 15 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY UNDEVELOPED RIGHT-OF-WAY BETWEEN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE AND THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT EGRETS LANDING LANE. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VEHICLE PARKING, I'M GOING TO GO BACK HERE, YOU WILL HAVE NOT ON THE 10 FEET OF DRIVEWAY BUT ALSO 15 FEET WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BEFORE YOU COME TO THE PAVEMENT EGRETS LANDING LANE.

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SO AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE CHANGED THE SIDEWALK WILL COME ALONG, IT WILL CROSS OVER EGRETS LANDING LANE AND CONTINUE ALONG THIS PATH ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OR THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEN CROSS BACK OVER SO THAT NO SIDEWALK WILL BE IN FRONT LOTS 14 THROUGH 19 TO ALLOW FOR THAT VEHICLE STACKING OUTSIDE OF THE ROADWAY AND NOT BLOCK SIDEWALK ACCESS FOR KIDS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING ALONG THE SIDEWALK. SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE DIMENSIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS A MINOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION. AND SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS IMMEDIATE DPAITION FOR THESE REDUCED FRONT YARD SETZ BASK WITH THE RELOCATION OF THE SIDEWALK TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

AND ANTHONY AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE AGENCY MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, -- THERE ARE NO PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS. SO WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION OR DISCUSSION. FROM SOMEONE.

>> I DON'T HAVE -- I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.

SO I THINK THIS IS A RELATIVELY EASY ONE FOR US TO DEAL WITH.

>> WE TRIED. >> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IMPACTING THE STUDENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

SO I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> GO AHEAD.

>> ALL RIGHT. MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE MINIMUM MODIFICATION 2020-05, ST. JOHNS INTERCHANGE PARCELS LOTS 14 AND 19, BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT AND SUBJECT TO SEVEN AS

PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THAT WAS 14 THROUGH 19,

RIGHT? >> YES, SIR, 14 THROUGH 19.

>> I SAID 14 AND 19 BUT I MEANT 14 INTO 19.

[Items 6 & 7]

THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK AND A SECOND BY MR. MILLER.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE. THAT MOTION HAS PASSED.

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> WELL DONE, MADAME MAYOR VICE CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG, WE'LL MOVE ON TO

ITEM NUMBER 6, MS. TAYLOR HERE. >> MR. MATOVINA, ITEMS 6 AND 7 THEY WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK FOR EX PARTE.

>> I WILL ASK FOR EX PARTE ON ITEM 7, NOT ON ITEM 6.

HOW ABOUT THAT? IS THERE ANY EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONSTE TO DECLARE? >> NO.

>> NONE. >> THANK YOU

>> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THESE TOGETHER.

MY PRESENTATION WILL BE FOR BOTH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE MAJOR MODIFICATION, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED VOTES FOR THEM INDIVIDUALLY. SO AGAIN THIS IS BRIDLE RIDGE AND A SMALL SCALE COMPREENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL AS A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO AN APPROVED PUD.

I'M HERE TODAY, AND WITH ME IS NEFF ST. PAUL WHO IS THE U-HAUL DISTRICT MANAGER AND ED HATCHER WHO IS ALSO MORE OF REASONABLE.

SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT U-HAUL, I'VE GOT THAT COVERED TODAY. THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, AND IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU IN RELATION TO THE OVERALL AREA.

IT IS AT COUNTY ROAD 16 WHICH TAKES THAT JOG, 16A, SILVER LEAF PARKWAY WHICH IS NOW ALL EXECTD AND IT'S NORTH OF THE OTHER INTERSECTION, MIRABELLA INTERSECTION WHERE IT'S INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND PACETTI ROAD.

THIS GETS YOU A LITTLE CLOSER, AND I APOLOGIZE, MY THING SAYS 13AMENT. IT'S 16A.

I GET CONFUSED ONCE IN A WHILE. BUT THIS IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE NEW ENTRANCE FROM SILVERLEAF PARK WRAY PARKWAY.

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THIS PARTICULAR SITE S. DOES HAVE RURAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE.

THE OVERALL AREA, AS YOU CAN SEE, HAS ANYTHING FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO AGRICULTURAL, DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL.

THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT WP PUBLIC PROPERTIES WHICH ARE SCHOOLS, AND SOME RURAL/SILVICULTURE STILL LEFT, AS WELL AS SOME MIXED USE AREAS DOWN NEAR MUR MURABELLA.

AND THIS BRINGS IN YOU A LITTLE% CLOSER TO SEE IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FRITZ THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THAT IS THE HARDWARE STORE, AND THE RESIDENTIAL C THAT IS WITHIN SILVERLEAF BUT THERE IS SOME EXCHANGE ALLOWED IN THAT, AND THERE SILL IS PASTURE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY WHICH IS AGRICULTURAL BUT THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL. THE ZONING IS PUD, AS IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN THIS AREA, BECAUSE OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR WE HAVE TO BE A PUD. SO YOU CAN BASICALLY SEE THAT THE BALANCE WOULD BE OR AND A LITTLE BIT OF RMH.

AND THE IMMEDIATE IS ALSO THE PUD, AGAINING KIND OF SHOWING THOSE. THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S A CLEARED PASTURE.

IT'S 13.55 ACRES. THERE THERE IS AN OUT-PARCEL.

THAT OUT-PARCEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

THE GENTLEMAN THAT LIVES THERE HASN'T HAD ANY ISSUES SINCE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, AND I WORKED ON THE ORIGINAL ONE AS WELL AS THIS ONE TODAY. YOU CAN SEE THE HARDWARE STORE ACROSS THE STREET WHO IS ALSO PLANNING ON AN EXPANSION AS WE SPEAK. THE SITE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMOUNTED IS 9.8 ACRES. -- AMOUNTED IS 9 AMENDME.

THIS CAME OUT BEFORE THE GOVERNOR CAME OUT WITH LEGISLATION TO CHANGE SMALL SCALE TO UP TO 50 ACRES BUT WE ARE KEEPING THINK IT WAY SINCE WE THINK IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE TO LEAVE THE BALANCE, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE AS THE RURAL COMMERCIAL BECAUSE OF THE USES AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE USE HAPPENS ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT SO IERTS 9.8 ACRES OF THE -- IT'S 9.8 ACRES OF THE COMMERCIAL AND 3.75 ACRES WILL REMAIN AS THE RURAL COMMERCIAL.

THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU THE CHANGE AND ACTUALLY THE DESIGNATION WON'T LOOK MUCH DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE WAY COMMERCIAL IS IN THE COMP PLAN. SO AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS FOR -- TO CHANGE THAT 9.8 ACRES FROM RURAL COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL, AND IT'S TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PROPOSED U-HAUL FACILITY. AND THE COMMERCIAL C OVERALL IS OVERALL LAND USE. IT'S AN UMBRELLA TYPE LAND USE FOR ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL USES DESIGNATIONS IN THE COMP PLAN.

PLANS ARE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF 155,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA, AND THEN -- AND ALSO SOME ENCLOSED LOADING AND UNLOADING AREAS. THEY HAVE OFFICE SPACE.

EQUIPMENT SHUNNING AREAS AND DISPLAY AND THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS. THE AREA, THOUGH, WILL REMAIN AS RURAL COMMERCIAL WILL BE FOR BOAT AND RV STORAGE.

THIS IS THE OLD PLAN, AND I JUST INCLUDED THIS JUST TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA, AND IT IS STILL VALID, BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME, AND IT DID NOT DEVELOP, SO IT HAD 70,000 SQUARE FEET ALONG WITH THE CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS, BUT IT DID MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR.

AND IT ALSO ESTABLISHED SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY TO BE RESERVED.

AND THIS WAS DONE QUITE A LONG TIME AGO, ACTUALLY ORDER PLANS OF SILVERLEAF AT THAT TIME, BUT WE'VE KEPT THAT IN PLACE, SO IF YOU GO TO OUR, THIS IS OUR GENERAL SITE PLAN, THIS IS WHAT'S FILED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SHOWS YOU THE THINGS THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, THE CLIMATE ADVERTISED STORAGE AND THE AREAS BASICALLY SO WE'VE GOT AN ENTRANCE HERE OFF OF STATE ROAD 16, AND AN STRANS OFF OF 16A.

THOSE -- AN ENTRANCE OFF OF 16A.

THOSE HAVE CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

THERE IS THE MAIN BUILDINGS, THE SHUNTING AREAS, AND THEN THERE ARE SO MANY SELF-STORAGE AND INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS THAT LINE PART OF IT AS WELL AS SOME PARKING.

COMMUNITY AREA IS UP IN THE FRONT.

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AGAIN, THE BUILDING AREA THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THE 30-FOOT SCENIC EDGE THAT WOULD GO ALONG 16 AND 16A.

THERE IS SOME PROPOSALS WORKING, THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW RELATED TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR STATE ROAD 16 FOR THE FOUR-LANING AND THAT COULD CHANGE THIS SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THIS PARTICULAR IN WIDTH, SO WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW THE PLANS AREN'T FINALIZED FOR THAT.

JUST THOUGHT I'D ADD A FEW PICTURES, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM THE AS A HARDWARE SITE'S HARDWARE SITE.

IT'S BEEN USED BY ALLEN ROBERT FOR HIS CATTLE FOR YEARS AND YEARS. THAT'S FROM THIS SITE ITSELF.

ACROSS THE EDGE OF THE SITE LOOKING AT ACE HARDWARE AND AGAIN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THAT'S ELT ACTUALLY HEADING FORTH AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT'S BEEN INSTULD AND EVERYTHING WITH SILVERLEAF PARKWAY COMING IN AND THAT WOULD BE ALSO LOOKING NORTH.

I'VE INCLUDED THESE JUST BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WITHIN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR HAS TO DO WITH ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

THEY ARE PLANNING ON MIMICKING WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET.

BUT I INCLUDED A FEW THEY HAVE DONE IN OTHER AREAS JUST TO SHOW THAT YOU THEY DO A VARIETY OF BUILDINGS TO MEET THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM, JUST DEPENDING ON THE WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES ARE.

AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU U-HAUL, THAT THEY ARE A VERY SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS AND THEY DO THEIR TRUCK AND TRAILER SWHAIRK NEIGHBORHOOD DEALERS. THEY HAVE GREEN BUILDING FEATURES. THEY HAVE REUSE PROGRAMS, TREE PLANTING PARTNERSHIPS, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM.

AND THEY'VE KIND OF CHOSEN THIS AREA, TOO, BECAUSE THEY ALSO ARE ONE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT DO THE LARGE CONTAINERS, WHICH ARE VERY TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE IN MILITARY WHEN THEY'RE SHIPPING THINGS, AND SO THEY ACTUALLY WILL STORE THOSE OR PUT THOSE IN, TOO, SO THIS WHOLE AREA BECAUSE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE NAVAL STATION. THEY DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH THINGS AND PARTICIPATE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE AREA. SO AGAIN, JUST TO SUMMARIZE THE CHANGES FOR THAT 9.8 ACRES FROM RURAL COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PUD FOR THE 13.55 ACRES.

THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT IS WITHIN THE LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS, BEING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DLS AND ALL PERMITTING STANDARDS, AND IT'S ALSO IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE REGIONAL POLICY PLAN AND THE STATE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND WHEN YOU DO THE LAND USE CHANGE AND HAVE THE PUD THAT GOES LOSING WITH IT, THE PUD WILL DEFINE THOSE USES AND SIZE AND SCOPE AND SO YOU CAN BE MORE ASSURED OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL NODE AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.

IT'S ADJACENT TO AND ACROSS FROM THE HARDWARE STORE, AND THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND RETAIL HAS BEEN WELL RECEIVED AS WELL IN THE AREA. THE USES ALLOWED WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND BENEFICIAL, AND IT'S ECONOMIC GROWTH WITHOUT THE THINGS THAT RESIDENTIAL WOULD REQUIRE. SO WE CONDUCTED TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THE FIRST ONE WAS PRIOR TO THEM PURCHASING THE SITE. WE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THAT ONE, TOOK A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT, AND THEN I HAD ONE JUST RECENTLY. WE ONLY HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL COME TO THAT ONE. IT WAS BASICALLY JUST A DISCUSSION. SO WE ARE REQUESTING THOSE TWO RECOMMENDS AND TWO VOTES FRUP I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

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QUESTIONS. >> OKAY.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LAND USE CHANGE AND/OR THE ZONING AT THIS POINT OF THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OF STAFF. SO THE PROPOSED LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL, AND ON 10 ACRES THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT 163,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL. WHAT IS THE LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THAT THEY CAN PUT IN THIS LAND USE ON 10 ACRES?

OR DO WE HAVE SUCH A THING? >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL I DON'T DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS A GROSS AREA OR GROSS FLOOR AREA REQUIREMENT.

>> WOULD THERE BE A REINSTRUCTION IN THE LAND USE CHANGE WERE NOT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE HARDWARE STORE IS?

>> IT WOULD NOT. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE ENDED UP WITH COMMERCIAL, IS THAT THE U-HAUL FACILITY WOULD BE CONSIDERED A HIGH INTENSITY USE THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL

NOT ALLOW FOR. >> COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT. AND WHAT ABOUT THAT 55-FOOT HEIGHT? WHICH OF THOSE CATEGORIES IS IT

ALLOWED IN? >> IT'S AGAIN, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE PUD ALLOWS ITS OWN REGULATION FOR BUILDING HEIGHT, SO THAT'S PART OF THE PUD BECAUSE IT IS ITS OWN ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TIED DIRECTLY TO THE FUTURE LAND USE.

>> SO LET ME ASK MY QUESTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

IN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT WHAT'S THE HEIGHT LIMIT?

>> AGAIN, A MIXED USE DISTRICT ISN'T NECESSARILY A ZONING DISTRICT, SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PARTICULAR -- THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS GOING TO HAVE A VARIETY OF BUILDING HEIGHTS. TYPICALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A HIGH INTENSITY, I BELIEVE IT'S 40 FEET PLUS 5 FEET ADDITIONAL SETBACK FOR EVERY 5 FEET YOU RAISE THAT HEIGHT.

>> OKAY. >> SO THERE'S NOT A STRICT CAP

ON BUILDINGS HEIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

OKAY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO MAKE -- ON THAT, AND I DID INCLUDE THAT IN THERE, WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING, THE 40 FEET PLUS YOU CAN ADD THE 5 FEET FOR THE SETBACKS SO WE DO MEET THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK.

THE MAX WOULD BE FRONT 20 FEET ON TOP THAT OF IN THAT PART OF THE CODE. AS HE SAID, IN THE PUD WE CAN KIND OF SET OUR OWN THINGS BUT WE USE THAT AS OUR GUIDELINE.

>> WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY, THEN.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 2021-4 BRIDLE RIDGE BASED ON FOUR

FINDINGS OF FACT. >> ON A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. MILLER.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTIONS PASSES. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7.

>> MATOVINA, SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.

WAS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS?

>> I BELIEVE WE ASKED AND THERE WAS NOT.

>> THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE]

>> I'M SORRY. WHO IS SPEAKING?

[INAUDIBLE] >> SIR QUANTITY SPEAK FROM THE CROWD. IF YOU HAVE A UNL PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU NEED TO COME ON UP AND WE'LL NEED TO YOU FILL OUT A

SPEAKER CARD. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING. MY NAME IS NOM GEORGE 558 DEERFIELD ROAD. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT PARCEL THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, OVER HALF OF THAT LAND IS A DELINEATED AREA BECAUSE OF POLLUTION BACK IN THE '80S BY ILLEGAL EXTRACTION OF SILVER FROM FILL USING CYANIDE AND OTHER MATERIALS AND ENZYMES TO EXTRACT THE SILVER OFF OF UNDEVELOPED FILL. YOU CANNOT DRILL A WELL THERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET Y'ALL NO OR LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT IS A DELINEATED AREA THROUGH THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RIVER BAWRT MANAGEMENT GLICT THANK YOU, SIR.

WILL YOU FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7 AT THIS POINT AND WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

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>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2021-08 BRIDLE BRIDGE PUD BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACTS AS PROVIDED IN

[Items 8 & 9]

THE STAFF REPORT. >> A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE AGENCY MEMBERS? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, MS. TAYLOR.

THAT PASSES, AND I THINK YOU'RE UP AGAIN.

>> SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR TWO ITEMS, MR. MATOVINA, ITEMS 8S

AND 9 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER. >> IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE FOR ITEM NUMBER 9? ALL RIGHT. MS. TAYLOR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. KAREN TAYLOR, 77 SARAGOSSA STREET. I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF MY DESIGN TEAM -- A MEMBER OF MY DESIGN TEAM WITH ME TODAY WHICH IS ALEX ACREE FROM MATTHEWS DESIGN GROUP, AND UNFORTUNATELY BRIAN SPARR COULDN'T BE HERE SO WE HAVE KATHERINE WHITTINGTON AND WHITTINGTON LAW AS WELL AND THE TWO CLIENTS WHICH WOULD BE PAUL ROWAN AND GALE DIXON. SO WE ARE COVERED IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I KIND OF TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS A QUIT QUICKLY. THIS IS THE A1A APPROXIMATELY A MILE NORTH OF THE BRIDGE. YOU CAN SEE ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE BRIDGE. IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF THE SURROUNDING USES. THERE IS THE OCEAN SANDS BEACH INN IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF IT.

THERE IS SOME SINGLE-FAMILY ALONG HERE IN -- THE ROAD.

THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY DOWN IN THIS AREA, AND THERE'S MULTI-FAMILY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH.

IT IS BOUNDED BY THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE BEACH ON THE EAST SIDE.

THE OVERALL TOTAL IS 43.87 ACRES, AND OUT OF THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 18 ACRES OF UPLANDS AND ABOUT 26 ACRES OF JURISDICTIONAL WETLANDS. IT'S BEEN CLEARED.

IT WAS A CAMPGROUND MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, FOR MANY YEARS, I SHOULD SAY, WHEN WE REZONED IT FOR COMMERCIAL -- I MEAN FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THAT CAMPGROUND CLOSED.

AND THEY HAD SOME ISSUES AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP ABOUT THAT. THEY COULDN'T KEEP THAT IN THE PUD AS A REVERTER TYPE CLAUSE, SO EVEN THOUGH YOU NORMALLY DO THAT, THEY COULD NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR ISSUES WITH THEM BEING PART OF A OVERALL GROUP THAT OWNED MEMBERSHIPS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK HERE FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.

DURING THE TIME THAT THESE OWNERS HAVE HAD IT, THEY HAVE RECONSTRUCTED THE DOCK AFTER THE HURRICANES, REMOVED A LOT OF THE DEBRIS AND DONE MOWING. THERE'S ALSO BEEN THE RECENT BEACH EROSION, RESTORATION IN THE AREA.

AGAIN, THIS DEFINES THE TWO AREAS THAT ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION. , THE 20.48 ACRES THAT'S IN THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THERE'S 23.03 ACRES THAT WILL REMAIN IN CONSERVATION. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A CHANGE TO THAT. IS THIS IS JUST A FLOOD ZONE MAP, AND I DIDN'T -- COULDN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT HOW TO DELINEATE ON IT BUT THAT IS THE SITE THERE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. IT'S PRETTY STANDARD ALONG THAT AREA OF THE BEACH. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE.

RIGHT NOW IT IS RESIDENTIAL C, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ALSO OTHER TYPES OF LAND USE, INCLUDING SOME CONSERVATION AREA AS WE HAVE DEFINED BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF US.

THERE IS SOME RURAL COMMERCIAL. THERE IS ACTUALLY SOME COMMERCIAL GENERAL OR -- AND THE RURAL COMMERCIAL -- WHOOPS, SORRY. HIT THE WRONG BUTTON.

IT'S BASICALLY THE AREA UP HERE THAT WAS ADDED TO THE NORTH BEACH CAMPGROUND. MEL TO THE SOUTH, TOO, THERE'S ALSO A COMMUNITY PARK THAT THE COUNTY HAS BUILT A PRLGT ON. PARKING LOT ON.

THIS SHOWS YOU A CLOSER VIEW, HOW THE PENINSULA STICKS OUT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA WITH THEIR LAND USE AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE RESIDENTIAL C IN THE AREA THIS IS JUST A DEMONSTRATION OF THE AREA THAT WOULD CHANGE TO RURAL COMMERCIAL.

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WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM THAT'S TO THE SOUTH. THIS IS A RESIDENTIALLY APPROVED PUD THAT'S ACTUALLY UNDERGOING MOISKS AT THIS TIME AND YOU HAVE SOME -- MODIFICATION IS IT AND YOU HAVE RS-1 UP IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. SO THE CHANGE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND MAINTAIN THAT CONSERVATION LAND USE, THE RURAL COMMERCIAL IS A CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS FOR CAMPGROUNDS, AND UNDER THAT COMP PLAN DESIGNATION IT INCLUDES RURAL COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD, BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL, EXURCHL AND INSTITUTIONAL KIND OF USES, NEIGHBORHOOD PUBLIC SERVICE AND THEN RESIDENTIAL AS ACCESSORY USES THE CONSERVATION LAND PROVIDES FOR WATER AND RECREATIONAL USES AND OUTDOOR PASSIVE USES. AND THE UPLEFT HAND PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY THAT ARE IN THE CONSERVATION LANDS WILL TAKE ON THE ADJACENT ALLOWABLE LAND USE FOR THE UPLAND PORTIONS ONLY.

SO AGAIN, IT'S 20.84 ACRES FOR THE RURAL COMMERCIAL AND 23.03 THAT WILL REMAIN IN CONSERVATION.

THE PLANS ARE TO RESTORE IT TO AN UPDATED CAMPGROUND AND WE HAVE PUT UP TO 170 CAMPSITES. THAT COULD VARY AS WE GO THROUGH OUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. THERE WILL BE AMENITIES WITH THAT, LIKE A WELCOME AND CHECK-IN CENTER, BEACH WALKOVER AND VIEWING AREA. THEY'VE GOT A BEACH SIDE SWIMMING POOL, BATHHOUSE PLANED, AND THEN ONE ON THE RIVER SIDE AS WELL AS INTERIOR BATH HOUSES AND RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE. THEY'VE ALSO INCLUDED SOME GUEST PARKING FOR VISITORS AND CAMPERS, AND THERE IS THE EXISTING DOCK AND THEY'RE PLANNING TO REQUEST ADDITION OF THE BOAT SLIPS THAT WERE APPROVED WITHIN THE ORIGINAL PUD. THIS IS THE GENERALIZED SITE PLAN. IT'S PRETTY HARD TO SEE FROM THIS TYPE OF THING. BUT IT DOES SHOW YOU AND DEMONSTRATE THE ACCESS POINT, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS IT WAS IN THE PAST. IT RELATES YOUR UPLANDS TO WETLANDS, KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE BUFFER AREAS AS WELL, SO EVERYTHING IN WHITE HERE IS WETLANDS THAT'LL REMAIN AND EVERYTHING THAT'S SHADED IN HERE IS THE BUFFERS.

WE ARE PROVIDING THE 50-FOOT UPLEFT HAND BUFFER WHICH IS AN AVERAGE ONE AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITY HAPP HABITAT PRESERVATION. SO AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT'S PRIMARILY IN THE RES-C AREA AS SHOWN ON HERE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT CHANGE TO THE RURAL COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS JUST FOR REFERENCE POINT.

THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PUD, AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO ACTUALLY BUILD THIS.

IT WAS FOR 45 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AND 34 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND TWO BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE NEAR A1A FOR THE 79 UNITS.

ACTUALLY, IF YOU CALCULATE ON IT UPLAND DENSITY IT WOULD HAVE LOWDZ FOR 83 UNITS. CAN BE ALLOWED FOR 83 UNITS, AND IT ALSO MET CAPACITIES FOR 25 SCHOOLCHILDREN WHICH OBVIOUSLY A COMMERCIAL USE NOT GOING ON TO SOAP THERE WERE A DIFFERENCE TO THAT, AND THERE TWALS DOCK THAT WAS APPROVED IN THAT TOO.

I THOUGHT THESE MIGHT BE HELPFUL JUST TO DEMONSTRATE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL FROM 2005. IT HAS A SITE PLAN OVERLAID ON IT, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE OTHER CAMPGROUND LOOKED LIKE AND HOW THE NEW CAMPGROUND WILL KIND OF REPLACE WHAT THAT WAS, AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT WILL HAVE BUFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WERE NOT A PART OF THE REQUIREMENT WHEN THAT CAMPGROUND WAS PROBABLY DONE EITHER IN THE '60S OR '70S. NOBODY CAN SEEM TO TELL ME WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY BUILT, ABOUT IT KNOW WHEN I MOVED HERE IN '79, IT WAS THERE. AND SO THEN THIS IS TODAY'S, HOW IT LOOKS, BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S MOWED AND WHATEVER BUT THIS IS

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SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO A BUNCH OF DETAIL SINCE I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED MOST OF IT, BUT THIS IS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP IN THE PUD.

AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE PERVIOUS AREA IN THIS IS QUITE HIGH AT THE 39.99 ACRES OF IT WITH THE IMPERVIOUS ONLY BEING ABOUT 4. THEY ARE PLANNING ON PERVIOUS DRIVES THROUGH IT. YOU DON'T FILL THE SITES NEARLY LIKE YOU WOULD FOR HAVING TO PUT A RESIDENTIAL ROAD IN IT.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE CAMPSITES LAID OUT.

YOU CAN SEE THE BEACH WALKOVER. THEY ARE PLANNING FOR A -- IF THEY CAN'T GET A WALKOVER HERE, BEING ABLE TO CONNECT TO THE ONE THAT IS TO THE SOUTH WHERE THE PARK HAS IT, AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT WITH DOT. THEY WOULD LIKE SOME --, THOUGH, A BEACH WALKOVER ON THE BEACH SIDE AND SOME PLATFORM AREA THAT THEY WOULD PERMIT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THAT.

IT SHOWS THE ENTRANCE AS WELL AS THE PARKING.

AS I SAID, THEY HAVE SOME GUEST PARKING, IN CASE YOUR YOU'RE VISITING SOMEBODY THERE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT PARKED ALONG THOSE INTERIOR ROADS. AND IT ALSO, THIS MAY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT AS THEY GO THROUGH BECAUSE IF THEY RUN INTO NICE AREAS OF TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WILL ADJUST THESE, BUT THIS IS A GENERAL. AND AGAIN, THE DOCK EXISTS, THE BOAT SLIPS DO NOT, BUT THEY ARE IN PERMITTING NOW.

ALL DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN THE UPLANDS, AND I SAID WE'RE PROVIDING THE BUFFER FOR THAT AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PRESERVING 70% OF THE SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITY HABITAT, WHICH 10% IS ALL THAT'S REQUIRED. THAT WAS JUST DR. HILSENBECK IS NOT HERE SO I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS BUT THIS IS THE ACTUAL BASIC ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND JUST A FEW PICTURES.

AGAIN, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SITE, LOOKING NORTH YOU CAN SEE THE INN THERE AND THE BEACH. THIS IS FROM THAT SAME SITE ONLY LOOKING SOUTH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE CONDOS AND THE BEACH.

THIS IS THE ENTRANCE AS IT IS NOW.

THEY HAVE FENCED IT AND GATED IT.

AND THIS WAS -- I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY HELPFUL.

THEY HAD A DRONE THING. SO THIS IS FROM THE WESTERN PART OF THE SITE LOOKING TOWARDS THE EAST TO SHOW YOU WHAT IS THE SITEE RIGHT NOW. AND I THOUGHT THIS REALLY SHOWED, TOO, THAT THERE'S -- WHOOPS -- THAT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF VEGETATION ALONG THE BORDERS AND THINGS, TOO, WHEN ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF THAT FALLS WITHIN 50-FOOT UPLAND BUFFER AS WELL SO A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN.

THAT'S KIND OF LOOKING WEST TOWARDS CAR -- ROAD AND THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY AND THAT'S FROM THAT AREA ONLY LOOKING TOWARDS THE BEACH AREA AND ALSO YOU WOULD SEE RESIDENCES ALONG CARCABA ROAD ALONG THE BEACH. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME JUST TO SHOW KIND OF THE VEGETATION THAT'S THERE.

THERE IS ACTUALLY, AND MOST OF IT WILL BE PRESERVED BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THAT SIGNIFICANT NATURAL COMMUNITY HABITAT.

THIS IS ALONG THAT NORTH SIDE GOING ALONG THAT FROM EAST TO BEST, AS I'M SHOWING IT TO YOU. SO THERE IS A NICE BUFFER ESTABLISHED FOR ESPECIALLY ACROSS TO CARCABA ROAD ON THIS SIDE. YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT BUT THAT IS THE DOCK, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THROUGH THE TREES AND YOU CAN SEE THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY AS WELL.

THIS IS HEADING UP THE OTHER SIDE, SO THIS WOULD BE THE SOUTH SIDE, AND AS A SAID, SOME OF THOSE AREAS,, SOME OF THOSE TREES FALL WITHIN THE UPLAND LEFT HAND BUFFER, SOME DON'T, BUT THOSE WILL BE RETAINED ANDET THEY WILL PUT THE SITES AROUND THOSE. A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT.

A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT AND THE SAME ON THAT SAME SOUTHERN SIDE. THERE WAS A BOAT RAMP THERE.

IT'S STILL REMNANTS THAT OF BOAT RAMP ARE STILL THERE AS WELL.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED. AND THERE IS THE EXISTING RETENTION POND, AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING IS JUST TO EXPAND THAT, THAT EXISTING POND IN THE LOCATION WHERE IT IS.

THIS IS KIND OF COMING UP THAT EASTERN, GETTING MORE EASTERLY,

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THAT'S THAT FRONT CORNER, ACTUALLY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S FROM OUR ENTRANCE TO LOOKING DIRECTLY SOUTH. SO AGAIN, THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS FOR THE RURAL COMMERCIAL FOR 20-POINT -- FOR THE 20.84 ACRES, AND THEN THE MODIFICATION, MAJOR MODIFICATION FOR THE 43.87 ACRES. AND AGAIN, THE CURRENT PUD IS APPROVED FOR THOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THE PROPOSED IS FOR THE, BASICALLY FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CAMPGROUND. AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE TO RURAL COMMERCIAL WAS THE BEST CHOICE EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A RURAL AREA.

IT IS THE ONE THAT ALLOWS FOR CAMPGROUNDS.

YOU'VE ALL SEEN ME COME HERE WITH A NUMBER OF THOSE.

AND SO -- AND IT'S ONE OF THE LESS -- DOESN'T ALLOW SOME OF THE MORE INTENSE USES AS WELL. AND AGAIN YOU HAVE THE ZONING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS THAT DESCRIBES AND LIMITS THOSE USES TO THE CAMPGROUND USES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE DO FEEL IT'S COMPATIBLE, THE OCEAN SANDS, BEACH INN IS COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH, AND IT'S KIND OF A NICE OPTION FOR US, FOR OUR CAMPGROUND TO HAVE SOMETHING RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IN CASE SOMEBODY IS COMING THAT WANTS TO STAY.

THE SEASIDE OF ALONG OH CONDOMINIUMS, WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM, AND THEY'RE -- BUT WE'VE INCLUDED A VERY LARGE BUFFER AREA TO HEM AND REMOVED WHAT WAS GOING TO BE A RETENTION AREA IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN. SO WE'RE WELL EXCEEDING ANY OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN THIS IS THE OLD CAMPGROUND SITE, KIND OF COMPARE THAT. THE OLD PREVIOUS SIGN.

AND WHEN I WAS WORKING ON THIS BACK IN 2007, THIS WAS A SITE PLAN JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE ON THAT SITE. AND THEN I'VE INCLUDED OUR PROPOSED PLAN WHICH I'VE SHOWN YOU BEFORE.

WE DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT POSTED SOME ITEMS ON NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AND STUFF AND RELATED TO SOME OF THESE, SO I'VE INCLUDED INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND STORM EVACUATIONS AND THINGS THAT WERE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ALONG THEM.

BASICALLY, THE CAMPGROUND S. GENERATES ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD EVEN THOUGH IT APPEARS 170 VERSUS THE 79, SO THE DIFFERENCE ALSO IN PEAK HOUR TRIPS IS QUITE DIFFERENT AS WELL AND LOWER. AND BASICALLY, TOO, THAT'S PLANNING ON THAT CAMPSITE BEING UNDER 100% CAPACITY ALL THE TIME, WHICH THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE LIKE A HOTEL.

THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS -- NOT ALWAYS FULL.

AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT STORM EVACUATION, AND WHEN WORK WITH THE NORTH BEACH CAMPGROUNDS AND WORKING WITH OTHER ONES, THEY ALL HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE PEOPLE EVACUATE. THEY MAKE THEM AWARE OF THAT WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR RESERVATION AND COME TO IT FOR ANY STORM THAT'S APPEARING TO GOING TO HIT IN THE AREA OR HURRICANES OR EVEN NORTH EASTERS. AND SO THOSE CAMPGROUND PEOPLE HAVE LEFT LONG BEFORE THERE'S A HURRICANE EVACUATION OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT LEAVING, TOO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE QUITE AN INVESTMENT IN THEIR RVS, AND SO THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN STICKING AROUND, AND THEY'D LIKE TO BE AHEAD OF THE TRAFFIC AS WELL.

AND AS A COMPARISON TO THAT, THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD HAVE 79 HOMES, AND ACTUALLY THAT PROBABLY, MOST HOMES HAVE AT LEAST TWO VEHICLES WEEK SOME HAVE MORE, SO BASICALLY AN EVACUATION WOULD BE 158 VEHICLES PROBABLY LEAVING THE AREA IF THEY HEEDED THE EVACUATION WARNINS. THEY'RE ALSO LESS LIKELY TO LEAVE THAN THESE THAT WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE.

SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS REDUCTION IN THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN THIS AREA IS BENEFICIAL. IT IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT TO VERY HIGH STANDARDS FOR THE ROADS, LOTS OF FILL, AND IT SUPPORTS THE OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WEEK FOCUSING ON DISASTER PLANNING IN COASTAL AREA REDEVELOPMENT AND HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS. IT'S ALSO MORE PERVIOUS, AS I WOULD SAY, THE MATERIALS THAT THEY USE, AND SO ACT IN A

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SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD PROMOTE ECOTOURISM AND THE PUBLIC USE OF THE SITE AS WELL. IT WOULDN'T BE LIMITED JUST TO THE FOLKS THAT END UP LIVING THERE IF IT WAS RESIDENTIAL.

WE ALSO DID HAVE MAIN STREET MEETING AND WE FEEL THIS WILL ALSO BE A TBOAFNT TOWN CENTER, AS DID THEY, AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF I HAVE -- A BENEFIT TO THE TOWN CENTER -- AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF POSITIVE DISCUSSIONS AT THAT PARTICULAR MEETING, PRETTY FAVORABLE RESPONSE. WE DID HAVE A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAD SOME CONCERNS. AS YOU'VE NOTED IN YOURS YOU HAVE SOME LETTERS OF OPPOSITION AND YOU HAVE SOME LETTERS OF SUPPORT, SO I WON'T GO OVER THAT, BUT GENERALLY FROM THE COMMUNITY WE FELT VERY SUPPORTED WITH THIS CHANGE.

THEY KIND OF -- THEY'RE KIND OF GETTING TIRED OF ALL THE DISPLECIALT AREA, SO RESIDL IN THE AREA, SO THEY FELT THERE WAS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO THAT IT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMP PLAN. AS A SAID, THE LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS, HAS TO MEET ALL LDC PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, AND IT'S ALSO IN CON ANSWER WITH STRATEGIC REGIONAL POLICY PLAN AND THE STATE COMP PLAN.

IT ALSO MAINTAINS THE COMP USE AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS FROM THAT. AGAIN, THE MAJOR MODIFICATION DEFINES THOSE USES AND SIZES SO THAT YOU CAN BE ASSURED OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE RENTING HERE TODAY.

AGAIN, WE FEEL IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND IT'S BETTER SUITED AS THE CAMPGROUNDS, WHICH IT WAS FOR MANY YEARS AND KIND OF PART OF WHAT VELLANO BEACH USED TO BE, AND IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

AND AS YOU'LL NOTE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE FROM THE CONDO TO THE SOUTH, A COUPLE OF THOSE LETTERS ARE FROM THEM AS WELL AS ONE PERSON ALONG CARCABO ROAD. SO WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN, WHICH I WHEN I WENT THROUGH THIS TO CHANGE TO IT RESIDENTIAL, I GOT QUITE TO A BIT. SO AGAIN, THIS IS TWO VOTES.

1000 ONE WOULD BE THE CHANGE TO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO THE RES-, RESIDENTIAL, THE RURAL COMMERCIAL AND THE OTHER WOULD BE FOR THE MODIFICATION TO THE PUD.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO ANY AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. TAYLOR.

MR. MC. DR. MCCORMICK, EXCUSE ME.

>> WELL, ACTUALLY I HAVE A COMMENT.

THE LAST TWO PROPOSALS, YU BROUGHT BEFORE US -- PROPOSALS YOU BROUGHT BEFORE US, I HAD A HARD TIME DECIDING TAU HOW TO VOTE ON THEM. THIS ONE, MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF YOUR PRESENTATION, TWAFER EVER WHATEVER IT WAS, IT WAS VERY CONVINCING.

I THOUGHT YOU HANDLED THE PROS AND THE CONS OF THIS PROPOSAL VERY WELL IN TERMS OF THE NEGATIVES THAT SOME PEOPLE OFFERED BEFORE. IN MY OPINION, THIS IS THE RIGHT PROPOSAL FOR THIS PROPERTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME SO I KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE WHEN IT COMES TO A VOTE.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S A COMMENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> I THOUGHT THE PRESENTATION WAS GREAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. MILLER. >> OF THE APPLICANT, IS THERE ANY COMMERCIAL WITHIN A MILE OF THIS PROPERTY?

>> IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT. >> WHERE?

>> THE END. >> THE END?

OKAY. >> IF THAT'S WHAT -- AND FOR THE CAMPGROUNDS WEEK IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SAME AS THE NORTH BEACH. I'LL GO BACK TO THAT.

ARE YOU MEANING LAND USE OR ZONING?

>> JUST AS AN END USE. >> SO THAT'S -- THERE IS THE INN IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF IT, AND THEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERALL, THE CAMPGROUND THAT'S EXISTING IS ALSO THERE.

OF COURSE, AS YOU GO DOWN AND THERE'S A GAS STATION DOWN THERE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE TOWN CENTER, THEY'VE TRIED TO KIND OF LIMIT THE COMMERCIAL USE ALONG THERE AND FOCUS IT ON THE TOWN CENTER, BUT OBVIOUSLY CAMPGROUNDS DON'T WORK INTO TOWN

CENTERS. >> GOT IT.

THANK YOU. >> MS. PERKINS.

>> IS THERE A LIMITATION TO HOW LONG PEOPLE CAN STAY WHEN THEY

BRING THEIR CAMPER? >> THIS IS NOT FOR LONG-TERM, AND WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME.

IT'S USUALLY A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS WOULD BE THE MAX.

IT'S NOT FOR PERMANENT AND IT'S NOT FOR THINGS LIKE PARK MODELS

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REALLY CAN'T LEAVE. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AGENCY MEMBERS OF THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD, JOAN MAGU RARKS AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. YOU CAN COME UP RIGHT AFTER EXCUSE ME. JOHN.

SORRY. >> HI.

GARCH. MY NAME IS JOHN MAGURA.

I LIVE ON 12TH STREET IN NORTH BEACH, ST. AUGUSTINE.

THE PRESENTER ANSWERED A NUMBER OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IT. SEEMS THAT IT WILL HAVE MOSTLY IMPERVIOUS -- SORRY -- SURFACES THAT ALLOW WATER TO DRAIN.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE PARKING LOT THAT'S SHOWN ON THE DRAWING, IS THAT PERV JUST OR IMPERVIOUS?

[INAUDIBLE] >> I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR. IMPERVIOUS?

SO WATER WILL RUN OFF? >> SIR, SIR.

YOU'RE HERE TO COMMENT ON THE APPLICATION.

>> OKAY. >> I HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> NOT TO HAVE A RUNNING DISCOURSE WITH THE APPLICANT, SO YOU NEED TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS GLOWS IS THE PARKING

LOT PEF YOWRS IMPERVIOUS? >> AND WE'RE NOT AS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, EITHER, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITH

THE APPLICANT AFTERWARDS. >> MY COMMENT IS I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER THE PARKING LOT IS PERVIOUS OR IMPERVIOUS AND HOW IS THAT

DECIDED ULTIMATELY. >> THAT'S DECIDED BY THE APPLICANT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CODE

PROVISION THAT REQUIRES THAT. >> OKAY.

SECOND IS I READ IN THE APPLICATION THAT IT SAID IT'S

EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCY. >> COMMERCIAL USES IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY ARE EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCY, SIR.

>> IS IT EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCY IS IT'S A RESIDENTIAL USE?

>> NO, IT IS NOT. >> OKAY.

SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE WITH ALL OF THE -- SO MY COMMENT IS WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON IN THE VILANO BEACH AREA, 170 ROOM PLUS HOTEL, TOWNHOMES, TWO NOW NEW HOTELS, ET CETERA, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WITH A CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS TO SEE THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE HANDLED BY THE

INFRASTRUCTURE. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. AND I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF THE BOARD ALLOWS THE ZONING CHANGE TO RURAL COMMERCIAL, DOES THAT SET A PRESS PRECEDENT R THE NEXT PROPERTY THAT MIGHT

COME ALONG? >> IT MAY OR MAY NOT, SIR.

I DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE NEXT ONE COMES ALONG.

>> SO IT DOES -- I GUESS MY COMMENT IS HOW DOES THIS AFFECT -- MY QUESTION IS -- IT'S A QUESTION -- HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE NEXT PROPERTY THAT COMES ALONG?

>> SIR, THIS IS A TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, NOT QUESTION AND ANSWER. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET WITH STAFF ON THESE QUESTIONS OR WITH THE APPLICANT.

IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS TO MAKE ABOUT THE APPLICATION, YOU CAN

MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. >> MY COMMENT IS IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE SHOULD BE A CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS DONE WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A BAD USE OF THE PROPERTY BUT ALONG WITH THAT IT'S ANOTHER 170 FLUSHES, PEOPLE FLUSHING THE TOILET AND CARS IN THE ROAD AND SO FORTH, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCY

SITUATION. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THAT ALL OF OUR SPEAKER CARDS?

>> NO. WE HAVE KEITH STAN.

[INAUDIBLE] >> MA'AM, IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER

CARD, TURN IT IN OVER THERE. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU THIS AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KEITH DAW, 3385 COASTAL HIGHWAY UNIT 10. THAT'S THE COMPLEX IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. I APPRECIATE YOUR SCRUTINY OF THIS CAREFULLY BECAUSE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS LITERALLY A PENINSULA BETWEEN TWO OF THE NARROWEST POINTS ON THE ENTIRE TOLLAMATO PENINSULA COMING SOUTH FROM GHANA, LITERALLY THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THIS AND THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS ARE ABOUT THE NARROWEST POINTS ON THAT PENINSULA, SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT, AN IMPORTANT LOCATION.

SMAFTD 1 THE COUNTY AFTER THE 2016 HURRICANE, I BELIEVE IT WAS, CHAITD THAT THE BEACH ACROSS THE STREET, THE COUNTY WENT IN AND ACTUALLY BURNED ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS ALONG A1A BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A NARROW SPOT AND SO VULNERABLE AND

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I ALSO WANT TO DISCLOSE CLEARLY THAT I WAS PART OF A GROUP THAT ACTIVELY FOUGHT IN 2016 A DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY INAPPROPRIATE AND OVERLY BURDENSOME, AND I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT THE COUNTY PREVENTED THAT FROM GOING FORWARD.

IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. TODAY I WANT TO STAND HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION BUT WITH A CAVEAT OR WITH ONE COMMENT. I DO BELIEVE THIS APPLICANT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF SPEAKING TO THE PROPERTY AS IT HAS BEEN AND AS IT EXISTS. I'M PLEASED THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A GREAT AMOUNT OF FILL, MIGHT OCCUR IN THE CASE OF A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT MY ONE CONCERN REFERRING TO PAGE 4 OF THE GENERAL SUMMARY OF THE COMP PLAN PART OF THE APPLICATION IS THE OPENING OF THE DOOR BOTH FROM A COMP PLAN BASIS AND FROM A ZONING BASIS TO COMMERCIAL USES OF THIS PROPERTY. I'M NOT SPEAKING TO THIS DEVELOPMENT WHICH HAS TO HAVE RURAL COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY CATEGORY UNDER THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY RULES THAT ALLOWS FOR AN RV PARK. I'M SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE FACT THAT THIS LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THIS ZONING CATEGORY WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO BUSINESS, NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL WHICH ALLOWS COMMERCIAL INDOOR RECREATION, ARCHERY, ENTERTAINMENT, HOSPITALITY, RETAIL GOOD STORES, ET CETERA. MY CONCERN, AND I ASK YOU TO LOOK VERY HARD AT THIS POINT, IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS APPLICATION, THIS USE, THIS DESIGNATION CAN'T BE LIMITED TO ALLOW LEAPFROGGING OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> LEE MILLER.

>> HI THERE. MY NAME IS LEE MILLER AND I HAVE TWO RESIDENCES ON NORTH BEACH, ONE OF THEM SAT 121 CARKABO ROAD AND THING E. HAD TO, YOU IS AT 141 OCEAN HOLLOW LANE THAT'S LOCATED IN THE VILLAGES OF VILANO.

WE HAVE LIVED IN THE AREA, I HAVE HAD PROPERTY IN THE AREA FOR 28 YEARS SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES.

SANK GOODNESS PUBLIX SHOWED UP OR ELSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD STILL BE LIVING THERE. I HAVE TWO CONCERNS.

WOULD I LIKE TO ENSURE THAT DR. MCCORMICK WHO HAS ALREADY VOICED HIS PRO STANCE ON THIS DOES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THOSE. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF CONCERN, AS RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA, ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, AND I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF GLOSSED OVER IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT IF YOU NOTICE THERE WERE UP TO 6756 THAT WOULD BE COMING -- 675 VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION A DAILY BASIS.

IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RVS, AND I'M SURE YOU DO, THESE WOULD BE PROBABLY LARGE VEHICLES BETWEEN 20 AND 45 FEET LONG BECAUSE THAT'S THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF AN RV, UP TO 8-1/2 FEET WIDE, AND THIS IS A VERY NARROW ROAD AND ALREADY IT'S IT'S VERY CONGESTED WITH TRAFFIC GOING OVER THE BRIDGE AND COMING IN AND OUT OF VILANO BEACH. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN STUCK THERE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR THE BEAN OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THAT IT WE HAVE BEEN FOUND TO OUR BENEFIT, JUST THE IDEA OF GETTING RVS AROUND THAT IS A CONCERN AS WELL. I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE THE CAMPGROUNDS. I'M NOT SURE I SEE THE NEED TO BRINGING IN 170 DMEERMS THIS 0 CAMPERS INTO THIS AREA CHRG THAT THEY HAVE A MINIMUM OCCUPANCY OF TWO PEOPLE, THAT'S 350 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE GOING TO THE BEACH ACROSS THAT NARROW A1A SO THERE'S SAFETY CONCERNS THERE. JUST THERE'S QUITE A FEW CONCERNS ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN MADE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW -- WHY TREAR CRAMMING SO MANY UNITS IN ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE WITH THOSE PARTICULAR BABDZ NOT TO MENTION ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT WITH THEIR BEING LACK OF ANY PROPERTY TAXES BEING PAID TBHIES PEOPLE USING THOSE SERVICES -- BY THOSE PEOPLE USING THOSE SERVICES AND THE PARTICULAR DRAIN ON THE RESOURCES.

FINALLY, I DO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXCEPTIONS WITH WHAT MS. KAREN TAYLOR SAID WITH PEOPLE SAYING THEY'RE TIRED OF

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MAYBE THAT'S HER OPINION BUT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE OVERALL OPINION OF MOST. AND PROBABLY THEY COULD BE REFERRING TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL RENTALS, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER SUBJECT ALTOGETHER.

BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OF NOTE FOR THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, MS. TAYLOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE SOME REBUTTAL, PLEASE.

>> SURE, I WILL TRY TO GO BACK TO IT AND KIND OF RELATE TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THE FIRST SPEAKER HAD REGARDING PERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS. MOST OF THE CAMPGROUND WILL BE PERVIOUS SO THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO DRAIN LIKE IT HAS.

THE BUILDINGS AND THE PARKING ALONG THE FRONT WILL PROBABLY -- THE BUILDINGS WILL DEFINITELY BE IMPERVIOUS, AND THE AREAS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PARK CARS AND WHEN YOU COME IN OFF THE ROAD, THAT INITIAL ENTRANCE INTO THE CAMPSITE, SO JUST TO KIND OF SHOW -- SO WE'VE GOT THOSE SHOWN AS THOSE ARE THE IMPERVIOUS AREAS. THESE ARE THE PERVIOUS AREAS.

NOW, THERE'S A FEW BATH HOUSES AND THINGS WITHIN HERE AND THERE IS AN AREA DOWN IN HERE THAT'LL HAVE A BATHHOUSE AND A POOL.

A POOL IS ALSO CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS.

AND WE ARE N. INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE RETENTION AREA HERE AND THAT ALSO CRDZ IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

UST TO KIND OF CLEAR THAT UP. AS TO THE CONCURRENCY, WE STILL HAVE TO MEET THE CONS CURRENCY REQUIREMENTS AND WE DID DO A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WHICH IS WHERE I GOT THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD THAT CAME IN, WHICH I'LL USE TO ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTION AS WELL. SO WE DO HAVE TO MEET CONCURRENCY AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH UTILITIES AS WELL AS WATER, SEWER, TRAFFIC AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

WE JUST DON'T -- IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IT IS FOR RESIDENTIAL WHERE IT'S EVALUATED AGAINST IT.

SO WE HAVE -- WE DID HAVE A STUDY DONE, AND THE COUNTY ALSO DOES THEIR PRELIMINARY WHICH IS IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS WHICH THEY ISSUE THE COMMENTS TO US, SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE TRAFFIC.

THE COMBINED TRAFFIC IF THAT I WAS RESIDENTIAL OF 79 UNITS WAS THE 674. THE CAMPGROUND WOULD BE ESTIMATED AT 460 DAILY TRIPS, WHICH IS KIND OF UNUSUAL, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE THOSE BIG THINGS.

YOU DON'T TAKE THOSE ANYWHERE YOU.

PARK THOSE AND LEAVE THOSE, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO HAUL A CAR WITH THEM. AND WE ALSO HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY LESS PEAK-HOUR TRIPS TO THAT AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY NOT LEAVING IT. IN THIS CASE YOU'VE GOT THE BEACH ON ONE SIDE AND YOU'VE GOT THE INTRACOASTAL ON THE OTHER, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE BOAT SLIPS AND THOSE, VILANO BEACH IS TRYING REAL HARD TO GET THEIR SHUTTLE SERVICES GOING.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. I'VE BEEN HELPING KIND OF WITH THAT. I HELPED WITH THE MAIN STREET THING FOR TEN YEARS SO I'M APG HELPING VIVIAN AND THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING IN THAT. SO THAT WILL ELIMINATE A LOT OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC IF YOU CAN GET DOWN TO THE TOWN CENTER WITHOUT GETTING INTO YOUR CAR. THOSE THINGS AREN'T TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AS FOR ANOTHER CAMPGROUND, YES, THERE IS ANOTHER CAMPGROUND.

THEY FOUND THE DEMAND FOR THE ADDITIONAL NUMBER OF UNITS, AND THIS ONE ALSO FUNCTIONED QUITE WELL, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS JUST PART OF A SYSTEM THAT COULDN'T STAY ANY MORE OR IT WOULD STILL PROBABLY BE THERE AND WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE WHEN THE THIRD SPEAKER GOT UP. AS FOR PROPERTY TAXES, ACTUALLY THIS IS PAID UNDER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAXES VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL, SO THEY DEFINITELY PAY PROPERTY TAXES ON THE ENTIRE SITE EVERY YEAR. SO THAT'S BASED ON A COMMERCIAL USE, AND ALL THE IMPACT FEES IN THE ONTARIO, FOR SOME , FOR COUNTY, FOR SOME REAN YOU DO A CAMPGROUND IT IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST ACTS HIGHESTT FEES.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT RELATE TO THAT.

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THEIR INTENT ISN'T TOAF THINGS LIKE CONVENIENCE STORE OR RETAIL ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD GO ALONG THIS WHOLE TYPE OF THING, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT IN THE PUD, AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY SAY YOU'D TO HAVE COME BACK FOR ANYTHING TO CHANGE THAT.

AS FOR PRECEDENCE, THERE IS, THIS ISN'T A PRECEDENT SET FOR ANYTHING. EACH THING IS DETERMINED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. AS MR. DAW MENTION TWBD WATER MARK DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED HERE BEFORE, WHICH WAS MORE OF A BIG CONVENTION CENTER TYPE THING AND THAT DIDN'T SEEM APPROPRIATE BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT WAS SIMILAR THINGS TO WHAT IS ALREADY OFFERED BY THE TOWN CENTER PROPERTIES.

IN RESPONSE TO MR. MILLER'S QUESTION, AS A SAID, YOU CAN'T DO RV RESORTS IN THE TOWN CENTER, OBVIOUSLY.

SO WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD SET ANY PRECEDENT FOR SOMEBODY COMING IN AND CHANGING ANY OTHER AREA, AND FRANKLY THERE'S NOT LARGE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE OR WOULD EVEN BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT. SO WE FEEL AGAIN THAT THIS IS A MUCH BETTER USE THAN THAT RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE IMPACTS ARE PROBABLY LESS THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE. TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS AND THAT, AGAIN, IF YOU CONSIDER THAT THE TEN TRIPS PER DAY THAT COME WITH A SINGLE FAMILY THAT IS IN, WHAT IS APPROVED FOR THIS, WE FEEL LIKE THE CAMPSITES. I DOUBT TWHEEL GET TO 170.

WE CERTAINLY COULD REDUCE THAT NUMBER IF THAT -- IF THAT WAS DESIRED. THE PROBLEM WITH WITH SETTINA LIMIT IS THAT WITH F. WE YOU CAN'T GOOVER WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU IS IT AT. THE PREVIOUS CAMPGROUND HAD 178 SPACES AVAILABLE. SO WE KIND OF GOT OUR NUMBERS.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AGENCY WANTS TO US CONSIDER, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> DO ANY OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? G NOT, I HAVE A COUPLE.

IF NOT. MS. TAYLOR, YOU SAID THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC CONCURRENCY, AND STAFF'S REPORT SAYS THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE WHICH IS EXEMPT FROM CONCURRENCY OR TALKING ABOUT

TRANSPORTATION. >> YES.

I'M SORRY. WE DID HAVE TO DO TRAFFIC EVALUATIONS IS WHAT I MEANT BY THAT.

IT'S PAST THE CONCURRENCY OF PARTS OF THE CON CIRCHTS VOYNE THAT, BUT -- CONCURRENCY BUT WE DID NOTE HAVE TO GO THROUGH

LDC. >> IS THIS EXEMPT, STAFF?

>> IT'S EXEMPT. >> THANK YOU.

>> IT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CONCURRENCY STANDARD FOR TRANSPORTATION. WHAT THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET IS OPERATIONAL TYPE SITE ANALYSIS AND THEY'LL NEED TO GIVE US STUD US FOR THAT TO SHOW HOW THITE OPERATORS OPERATES AND HOW THE ACCESS AND INGRESS AND EGRESS AND ALL THAT'S GOING TO WORK

WELL. >> SO MY NEXT QUESTION FOR YOU, MS. TAYLOR, IS POLICY A1.11.1 SAYS RURAL COMMERCIAL SHALL MEAN COMMERCIAL USES INTENDED TO SERVE RURAL COMMUNITIES.

DO YOU CONSIDER THIS A RURAL COMMUNITY?

>> I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE. WE HAD QUITE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WHEN WE WERE DECIDING WHICH LAND USE CATEGORY.

IT IS NOT RURAL IN WHERE YOU THINK ABOUT AS WHERE MY LAST ONE MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED AT ONE TIME, WHICH ISN'T REALLY RURAL ANYMORE AS WELL. THEY HAD RURAL COMMERCIAL.

BUT IT IS THE BEST CATEGORY AND THE LOWEST INTENSITY CATEGORY THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THIS TYPE OF USE.

>> NOW I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF WHAT OTHER TYPE OF USES

ARE ALLOWED IN RURAL COMMERCIAL? >> LET ME PULL THAT UP.

>> IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF MY PRESENTATION.

I'M NOT STAFF. ACTUALLY, MAYBE IT'S AT THE

END. >> THIS IS PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND IT SAYS TYPICAL USES IN THIS CATEGORY INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL STORES, RESTAURANTS WITH OR WITHOUT DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITIES, ESTABLISHMENTS FOR

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SIMILAR FACILITIES AND USES. >> THANK YOU, TERESA.

I'M DONE ASKING QUESTIONS. THE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> AND BY THE WAY, THOSE LISTS OF USES, SOME ARE BY EXPRIET SOME ARE BY SPECIAL USE -- ARE BY RIGHT AND SOME ARE BY SPECIAL USE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A SHOOTING RANGE BY RIGHT.

. >> SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. THERE MC.

>> IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'M READY TO MAKE A

PROPOSAL. >> THERE MAY BE FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

>> I'LL WAIT. >> NO, SIR.

GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE.

>> ALL RIGHT. MY MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CPA SS2021-10 BEACHCOMBER RV RESORT, BASED FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. IN ESSENCE WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY THAT HERE, BUT WE'RE AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND MAP, USE MAP FROM RESIDENTIAL C TO RURAL COMMERCIAL. THAT'S WHAT THAT AMENDMENT IS

DOING. >> SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE LAND USE CHANGE BY DR. MCCORMICK.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> I'VE GOT A SECOND BY MS. PERKINS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE TO TELL YOU ILL I HAVE TO VOTE NO ON THIS. I JUST DON'T THINK THIS AREA IS RURAL AND I THINK THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ARE TOO BROAD FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE. SO LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD IS TO NOT APPROVE THAT PARTICULAR LAND USE. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9, PLEASE. IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 9? ? I HAVE A MOTION TO DICK A MOTION TO DENIAL BEACHCOMBER RV RESORT BASED ON SEVEN FINDINGS OF FACT AND OUR PREVIOUS VOTE TO DENY THE LAND USE AS A ZONING WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT

LAND USE. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION FOR DENIAL BY MR. MILLER.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> IF YOU DIDN'T APPROVE THE LAND USE, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A VOTE -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON BOTH,

MS. TAYLOR. >> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. WAS THAT I SECOND? THERE A SECOND? A SECOND BY MS. PERKINS.

RE YES, MR. MILLER. >> JAWS TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THIS

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DENY. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY HEADGES DISCUSSION? AGENCY EXPHUTION? SEEING NONE REMEMBER LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. REMEMBER, A YES VOTE MEANS YOU'RE VOTING TO DENY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10 AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.

MS. BREEDING. >> SORRY.

WITH THE THE COVID I'D RATHER STAND HERE.

THAT BREEDING, 171 SILVER PARK, 32256.

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I APOLOGIZE FOR BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR, IT WAS VERY CLEAR IN THIS THAT'S CORRECT HA WE WERE DOING 320 UNITS BUT WHEN WE GOT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AFTER THE FACT IT SEEMED THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION SO WE'RE JUST COMING BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE 100% TRANSPARENT AND EVERYBODY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THE VOTE WAS AND TO REQUEST YOUR VOTE AGAIN. THIS IS FOR A PROPERTY ON -- I JUST PUSHED THE BUTTON. THERE WE GO.

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WE'RE LOOKING TO DO 320 TOWNHOME UNITS.

EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOING A STRAIGHT ZONING OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE HAVE PROVIDED MOST OF WHAT IS REQUIRED AND EVEN EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A PUD ZONING, INCLUDING 25% OPEN SPACE. WE HAVE PROVIDED COMPATIBILITY BURVES INCLUDING A 35-FOOT NON-DISTURB BUFFER ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY, AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT I IN A MOMENT.

WE HAVE STAYED OUT OF FLOOD WAUGH, STAYED OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE AND PROVIDED THE PROPER THINGS.

WE HAVE DONE AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDY THAT CAME BACK CLEAN.

EVE AN ENVIRONMENT AM STUDY. AS FAR AS DENSITY GOES BECAUSE WE ARE MIXED USE WITH THE ACREAGE, THE UPLAND ACHE RAN THAT WE HAVE WE WOULD BE LOWDZ A DENSITY OF 415 UNITS.

THAT IS WITHOUT USING ANY DENSITY BONUS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. WE DON'T NEED THAT HERE BECAUSE WE ARE MIXED USE. EVEN THOUGH THE DENSITY SAYS 414, WE ARE GREIG TO LIMIT TO 320 TOWNHOME UNITS.

CONCURRENCY HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR AND THAT WILL BE MOVING FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AT THEIR NEXT MEETING. WE HAVE APPLIED FOR SCHOOL CON EXPIRNS WE ARE REFUGUE THAT NOW.

CONCURRENCY. WE DID RECEIVE FULL SCHOOL CONCURRENCY WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY. AND THE BEST PART I'LL SAY IS THERE WERE FOUR BIG BILLBOARDS ON THIS SITE.

THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED BASED ON THE SALE TO MY COMPANY, SO FOUR UNSIGHTLY BILLBOARDS HAVE NOW BEEN REMOVED ON US-1.

I'M HAPPY TO REPORT. ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE VERY LEVEL HEAVILY MATURED PROPERTY.

[INAUDIBLE] LEAVE IT AS IS.

>> CAN YOU TURN THAT MICROPHONE ON?

THERE YOU GO. >> OKAY.

HE'S ASKED TO US LEVEE THIS. THE 20 FEET THAT IS REQUIRED BY COMPATIBILITY, WE PUT SURVEY STAKES OUT AND MR. KINS LAW DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS MUFF AND ASKED US COULD WE PLEASE DO 35 FEET. HE'S A VERY PRIVATE PERSON, AND WITH THESE BEING TOWNHOMES AND TWO-STORY WE FELT OKLAHOMA GATED TO COMPLY. HE'S LIVED THERE FOR 50 YEARS.

THIS IS A STRAIGHT ON-SHOT SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH THE LANDSCAPING IS. AND SO THE CODE ONLY CALLED FOR 20 BUT WE'RE GIVING 35 COMPLETELY UNDER DISTURBED.

WE WILL NOT CLEAR INTO THIS AREA AT ALL.

I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER DETAILED NSKTS IF YOU WANT IT, BUT BECAUSE YOU'VE HEARD IT BEFORE I DIDN'T WANT THE WASTE THE BOARD'S TIME. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ON THE PART OF THE BOARD MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT ON THE PART OF THE BOARD MEMBERS? I SEE NONE. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER

CARDSSOME. >> WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS. TOM GEORGE.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU

HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> TOM GEORGE, 558 DEEFERRED ROAD, ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA 32 ON THE 95 I'VE BEEN A WELL DRILLER 5 HAVE 50S YEARS. I'VE BEEN DRILLING WELLS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY FOR 50 YEARS YEARSN==.

AND THE LAST I'D LIKE TO SAY BUT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS REAL QUICK, WHERE IS THE WATER COMING FROM? WHERE IS THE WATER GOING? WHERE IS THE IRRIGATION WATERS COMING FROM? WHERE IS THE STORM WATER GOING? WHERE IS THE GROUND WATER GOING? IT'S GOING STRAIGHT TO THE INTRACOASTAL.

NOT ONLY THAT, BUT GUESS WHO OWNS THE WEST SIDE OF THE INTRACOLT? GHANA STATE PARK.

HAS ANYBODY ADDRESSED THAT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM? HAS THERE END P ANY PROJECTION BEEN DONE ON WHAT WITH IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE WETLANDS AND ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS PART OF THE INTRACOASTAL IN THIS WHOLE AREA, INCLUDING JACKSON==VILLE. IT'S RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT THERE, THAT ROAD. INTO THE INTRACOASTAL.

I STOPPED ALL THIS WITH PLANSIA.

THAT'S WERE POLLENSIA GETS THEIR WATER FROM JACKSONVILLE AND THEIR SEWER GOES TO JACKSONVILLE, AND THAT'S FROM INTERNATIONAL GOLF DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO PINE ALLEN ROAD.

I TALKED TO THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT YESTERDAY.

ALREADY THE WELLS THAT THEY'RE PULLING OUT IN JACKSONVILLE AS ON APPLIED TO PILL ENSIA HAS ALREADY CREATED A CONE OF DEPRESSION. WELL THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FLOWING WITH MORE WATER THAN EVERYBODY SAYS WE DON'T HAVE.

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EVERYBODY AROUND THE TOWNHOUSES ARE ON WELLS.

THEY ARE GOING TO CONTAMINATE IT.

I WANT TO KNOW ARE THEY GOING TO USE RECLAIMED WATER? WHERE IS THE SEWER GOING? THIS TOWNHOUSE SITUATION IS SO OUT OF CONTEXT. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE LAST ROUND I LOST AT THE CORNER OF STOKES ROAD AND US-1 WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TURN AROUND ACROSS FROM THE DOLLAR STORE, I THINK THAT'S COMING UP NEXT. YOU'RE SQUEEZINGS WHAT'S LEFT OF STJ COUNTRY STYLE LIVING OUT T. STAWJ COUNTRY TILE LIVING OUT.

YOU'LL WILL HEAR BACK FROM ME ON THE 21ST.

I'LL HAVE A LOT MORE AMMO. THANK YOU.

>> YES, MS. BREEDING. >> I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.

FDOT HAS ACCEPTED RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT DIRECTLY ON US-1.

WE DID NOT WANT TOO COME OUT ONTO STOKES LANDING RHOADES.

WE HAVE KEY POX COMPANY, GEMINI ENGINEERING RUN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY STORM WATER MODEL AND THE FEMA MODEL AND THAT'S BEEN COMPLETE AND BEING SUBMITTED, SO WE HAVE MADE SURE THAT WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT. WE HAVE A UTILITY VALE PAW BUILT LETTER FROM SARATOGA TIEWLTSES. THEY ARE THE UTILITY PROVIDER ON THIS PARCEL. THERE IS NOT RECLAIMED AVAILABLE, AND SO WE ARE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MS. BREEDING.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. BREEDING? I ASSUME WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.

>> NO. >> OKAY.

SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2021-27 STOKES LANDING TOWNHOMES REZONING WITH CONDITIONS BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACTS.

>> A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. PIERRE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST

THE >> MS. TAYLOR, DR. MCCORMICK IS

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I HOPE HE DIDN'T GO HOME. IS OUR QUORUM FOUR OR FIVE?

>> IT'S FOUR. IT'S FOUR.

>> THEN WE'RE GOOD. OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THEY WANT TO DECLARE ON ITEM NUMBER 11? OKAY.

MS. TAYLOR. >> OKAY.

SHORT AND SWEET. I AM HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 11, THE HDG US-1 REZONING. AND WITH ME IS THE OWNER OF THE PLOT WHICH IS CHRIS SHEA WITH MASTER CRAFT BUILDINGS ARE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEAER WHERE THIS IS.

IT'S NORTH OF THE SITE THAT THEY WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS NORTH OF STOKES LANDING ROAD, BUT IT DOES NOT BOUND THAT IN ANY WAY. SO THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE 1.69 EASHES FROM OPEN RURAL AND COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE.

THE SITE AGAIN IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF US-1 NORTH.

1.96. AND IT'S ADJACENT TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT IS DOG TOWN THERE.

THIS IS ALSO A RESIDENTIAL LOT TO THE EAST.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE AREA, IT IS SOUTH OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND POLLENSIA.

IT'S ACROSS FROM THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE AT THAT INTERSECTION AND COME DOWN. THERE IS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THIS AREA THAT KIND OF FANS OUT OVER IT.

IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY THAT WE JUST CAME THROUGH REZONING ALSO FOR CHRIS, AND A COUPLE OTHER

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THAT DISTRICT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY ALONG THAT AREA PER WE'RE ACROSS FROM AN INDUSTRIAL. THERE IS RESIDENTIAL WHICH WOULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL I WAS POINTING OUT BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL C TO THE BOTTOM IS CORDOVA PALMS WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. BUT THAT'S SEPARATED BY US-1 AND THE RAILROAD. KIND OF LIKE MY OTHER ONES, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES HERE, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE WHICH IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND WAREHOUSING AS WELL AS IW AND SOME HI, WHICH IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, AND, OF COURSE, OR AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH THE PUDS AND THE FRONTAGE ZONING.

JUST TO GET IN CLOSER, WE'RE BOUNDED BY IW ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND A LITTLE BIT OF CW AND CW TO THE NORTH.

THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES. I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM US-1, KIND OF -- THIS IS NORTH OF THIS.

THE TWO INDUSTRIAL PARKS THAT YOU COULD SEE ON THE AERIAL.

THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM STOKES LANDING ROAD AREA WHERE THE CORNWALL STORE IS ALONG THE INTERSECTION.

AND THEN THAT'S IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THAT, OF THE SITE.

SO AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE IT.

IT'S FROM OR TO COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE.

IT HAS ABOUT 150 FEET OF FRONTAGE AND IT HAS THAT 565 FEET OF DEPTH TO IT. CW, AS I HAVE EXPLAINED BEFORE, ALLOWS FOR BOTH THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES, AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO SOME FLEX SPACE FOR WAREHOUSING, MANUFACTURING RELATED BUSINESS AND SERVICE AND RETAIL TYPE ACTIVITIES, SO IT GIVES WHAT THOSE INDUSTRIAL PARKS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF NEED TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION. SO AGAIN, A LOT OF THE HYBRID ZONING IS KIND OF THE FLEXIBILITY.

AS I SAID, IT'S ADJACENT TO CW AND IW PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED THAT WAY. SO THE JUSTIFICATION IS THAT THE ADJACENT LAND USES SURROUNDING AND ARE DEEMED COMPATIBLE.

IT'S A LOGICAL CONCLUSION WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT ALONG US-1 NORTH AND AROUND OTHER IW AND CW ZONING.

IT'S COMPATIBLE THROUGH THOSE SIMILAR USES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF US-1 AND THE INDUSTRIAL.

THE COUNTY KIND OF HAD ISSUES WITH THE CW BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ECONOMICS TO INTECIAL REQUIRES A DIFFERENT BUFFER THAN INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO -- RESIDENTIAL RATHER THAN INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL. SO BASICALLY WE'VE KIND OF COME UP WITH THE MORE STRINGENT ONE WILL DEFINE IT, SO THIS WILL PROBABLY HAVE THAT 30-FOOT C BUFFER.

OR B BUFFER. SO AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONFORM WALL TYPES. IF YOU REMEMBER ON THE LAST ONE WE DID HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE HAD LEFT OR, BUT WE DID NOT DO THAT IN HERE, SO THE BUFFER WILL BE FULLY TWHINTSDZ THE WN THE SITE. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE.

IT IS CONSIST OF WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AGAIN, ANY DEVELOPMENT WILL FOLLOW THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND WE ARE REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND CHRIS IS ALSO HERE. >> ALL RIGHT.

DO ANY AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? SEEN NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> TOM JOKER 558 DEERFIELD ROAD.

ONCE AGAIN, SAME CORNER, SAME AREA OF TOWN.

YOU'RE SQUEEZING US COUNTRY PEOPLE OUT OF OUR DID, EVER -- I CAN ALREADY HEAR THE TRAFFIC. I CAN ALREADY HEAR EVERYTHING FROM PALENCIA. NOW YOU'RE GOING BRING IT FROM THE SOUTH AND YOU'RE GOING INVADE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MOST OF US AVENUE AT LEAST AN ACRE AND A HALF OF LAND? NEGOTIATION YOU'RE GOING TO SQUEEZE ALL THIS STUFF RIGHT INTO ONE ROAD THAT IT JUST DOESN'T GO STRAIGHT THIS WAY IT. GOES IN AND OUT TO ALL THE HOUSES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE

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WE'VE GOT HORSE FARMS. WE'VE GOT YOU NAME IN IT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. BOTH -- ALL NEIGHBORS, SANDY PINES, WHITE EXAMPLES NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT WHITE CASTLE ROAD. HOW MANY DEATHS HAVE THERE BEEN ON WHITE CASTLE ROAD BECAUSE OF CONGESTION? AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT SHOULD NOT BE THERE ALONG WITH THE TOWNHOUSES, AND I'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW DURING THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S MEETING LATER ON THIS MONTH WHERE AND HOW THE WATER IS GOING TO GET THERE AND WHO IS GOING TO SUPPLY IT BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CITY OR THE COUNTY BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I STOPPED HEINZ CORPORATION.

I MADE THEM GET WATER FROM JACKSONVILLE.

WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT LETTER WATER HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS? IT HASN'T CHANGED.

MY WELL STOPPED FLOWING ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

IT USED TO FLOW A GALLON A SECOND.

IT DOESN'T EVEN FLOW ANYMORE. AND AS FAR AS THE NOISE POLLUTION, WHAT ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION FROM THE APARTMENT, THE TOWNHOUSE? YOU'RE PUSHING PEOPLE OUT OF THIS COUNTY. PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO JUST GET OUT OF HERE AND MOVE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER.

I KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY THAT YOU'LL ARE GOING TO GET FOR THE WATER AND THE SEWER.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, MONEY.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL IT'S ABOUT.

THEY WANT TO SELL THE WATER. THEY WANT TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE SEWER. THANK GRIEWRL LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS?

>> NO, SIR. >> OKAY.

DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO OFFER ANY REBUTTAL? NO? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A

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>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2021-21HDG US-1 NORTH BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY MR. MILLER.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS. THAT PASSES.

NOW IT'S TIME FOR TO BILL MILLER SHOW FORT NEXT TWO ITEM.

MR. MILLER, ARE YOU HERE? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE ON ITEM 12 OR 13? WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT BOTH THESE.

OKAY. FOR BOTH.

THANK YOU. IT'S HARD TO SEE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER, RIGHT? GO AHEAD, MR. MILLER.

>> HOW IS IT GOING TODAY? BACK NEAR THE SIMILAR MATTER THAT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, TRYING TO REZONE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE, ONE IS ON COSTNER A ROAD, THE OTHER ON A1A BOTH IN THE TREASURE SUBDIVISION REQUESTING A REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO RMH WHICH IS COMPATIBLE IN THE

ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS WELL. >> ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE AGENCIES MEMBERS? I HAVE JUST CONFIRM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD TWO HOUSES HERE?

>> YEAH, THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, TWO RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

>> AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HOUSES.

>> YES, SIR. >> AND THERE'S NO OTHER COMMERCIAL AROUND THERE. IT'S ALL JUST HOUSES IN THAT

AREA, RIGHT? >> EXACTLY, YES, SIR.

>> I MEAN, THE ACTUAL USES AT THE MOMENT.

>> EXACTLY. IT'S EITHER VACANT OR THERE'S

HOMES. >> SO DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 12, MADAME VICE CHAIR?

>> WE DO NOT. >> SOW NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THEN WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

>> MR. CHAIR, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, JUSTIN, GROWTH MANAGEMENT, THERE ARE SOME COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE IN THE SURROUNDINGERS AREA OF MOATH PARCELS.

TYPICALLY THOSE ARE AN ACCESSORY TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE BUT THERE

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A1A SOUTH. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, JESSE. ALL RIGHT.

BACK INTO THE AGENCIES FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING 2021-16, 6324 COSTANERO ROAD BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. PERKINS SPH.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. MILLER.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13, I'M GOING TO CONSIDER WHY YOU

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ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT ON NUR 13?

ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON NUMBER 13? >> NONE.

>> ANY MOTIONS ON NUMBER 13? >> ONE.

>> MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2021-23, 6381 A1A YOU SOUTH BASED UPON FOUR

[14. CPA (SS) 2019-02 Shaw Property.]

>> MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SNEKD YOU CAN'T DO HAND MOTIONS. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

SECOND BY MR. PIERRE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR BREVITY, MR. MILLER.

WE APPRECIATE IT. SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

ITEM NUMBER 14, MR. BURNETT, AND THIS IS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE, SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO WORRY

ABOUT EX PARTE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

FOR THE RECORD, DOUG URN BETTY STHJ LAW YUMA.

ALSO WITH ME TODAY IS TRAVIS SWANSON, A RECENT LAW SCHOOL GRADUATE WAITING ON HIS RESULTS FOA FROM THE FLORIDA BAR.

>> WHERE DID YOU GO TO COLLEGE? >> FLORIDA AND THEN SYRACUSE.

>> PROPERTY TODAY IS THE SHAW PROPERTY.

IF YOU ASK MR. SHAW WHAT HE HAS ON THERE, HE'S GOT SEVEN HOUSES AND HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELL THEM, AND THE COUNTY, UNDER THE PROCESS OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT. I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TO SORT OF BRING IT ALL TOGETHER AS TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROPERTY. COUNTY ROAD 208 IT'S OUT ON COUNTY ROAD 13 NORTH. YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION HERE FROM AN AERIAL NORTH OF RIVER'S EDGE.

FUTURE LAND USE MAP. ZONING MAP, THE PRD IS THE RIVER'S EDGE, PRD. ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW.

ZOOMING IN A LITTLE CLOSER, YOU YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE HOUSES CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS.

WE'VE GOT AN OLD SURVEY, IN FACT, THAT SHOWS -- DPOWNTEST COUNT THESE UP YOU'D SAY THERE'S EIGHT ON THERE.

ONE IS A BARBECUE PAVILION. IT'S NOTE ACTUALLY A HOUSE.

SO THE REQUEST HERE IS TO ALLOW FOR A SMALL SCALE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO RECOGNIZE ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING SEVEN HOUSES THERE. IF HE WERE TO SELL IT WE DID INCLUDE A BUBBLE PLAN. IT'S NOT SHOWING UP PERFECTLY BUT WE DID INCLUDE A BUBBLE PLAN TO SHOW HOW THAT WOULD LAY OUT WITH THE POTENTIAL AR ZONING. YOU HAVE A MINIMUM OF.

THIS IS 18.1 IN AN ACRE SO YOU HAVE PLENTYCH LAND IN ORDER TO HAVE 1 ACRE LOTS ON IT, ONE CONNECTION ON COUNTY ROAD 13, AND THE ADDED THING IS WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S HERE TODAY 4 THIS PROJECT -- BUT WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING, THE RIVER'S EDGE FOLKS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY SENT A REPRESENTATIVE. HE SAID, HAS DMAINGD? WE TOLD HUM KNOW, AND HE LEFT BEFORE WE GOT STARTED WITH THE COMMUNITY MEETING. TO THE NORTH, THOUGH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OWNERS NORTH OF US HERE.

THEIR LOTS ARE VERY DEEP BUT THEY SET THEIR HOMES VERY FAR BACK SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH SEPARATION IN THE REAR AND THEY ASKED IF WE WOULD DO SOME BUFFERING SO WE DID ON ON A OUR SITE PLAN INCLUDE A 20-FOOT VEG TARIFF BUFFER ON THAT NORTHBOUND RI WHICH IS SHOWN HERE ON THIS, AND WE AGREE THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT. SO WITH THAT IN MY THAT WILL END MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. BURNETT? DOES THIS HAVE TO BE PLATTED? I AM KIND OF ASKING STAFF.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT NECESSARILY HAS TO BE PLATTED.

IT'S OR ZONING SO IT COULD PROCEED I THINK WITHOUT A PLAT.

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE SO THAT WAS WHY I WAS ASKING.

I DON'T HAVE THINK FURTHER QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER

CARDS? >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD,

ALLEN WINTER. >> AND AS ALLEN IS WALKING UP HERE I WILL APOLOGIZE FOR NOT RECOGNIZING HIM EARLIER.

THIS IS THE GENTLEMAN I SPOKE OF THAT WAS AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND DID RAISE THIS ISSUE RELATED TO OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARY

ON THE NORTH. >> I JUST WANT TO STRESS IS THAT

THIS IS A -- >> CAN YOU STATE JURY NAME AND

ADDRESS. >> ALLEN WINE, 8337 COUNTY ROAD 208. PROPERTY BORDERS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

THE SOUTH SIDE HAS 100-FOOT BUFFER.

WE AGREED TO A 20-FOOT BUFFER, WHICH WE APPRECIATE.

BUT WANT YOU TO STRESS THAT THIS IS A PICKLE LOT AREA ALONG THE RIVER. IT'S CANOPIED BEAUTIFUL ROAD AND IT'S AN HISTORICAL SITE FOR THE FLORIDA, 1730.

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THAT'S. >> IT THANK YOU, SIR, FOR WAITING SO LONG. DOUG, IF YOU DID YOU HAVE AY RESPONSE? [INAUDIBLE]

>> WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE PLOTS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE ARMING 10 ACRES BUT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE NEW ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY.

THE REASON IT WAS 10 ACRES, AND YOU ALL WILL RECOGNIZE THIS WITH YOUR FAMILIARITY WITH THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS, SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OOSSMENTSZ HAD TO BE BELOW DIDN'T AMENDMENTSAO HAD TO BE 10 ACRES AND THEN TECH IF I HAVE JULY THE SCOPE OF SMALL PLAN COMP OOSSMENTS WERE INCREASED TO BE UP TO 50 ACRES SO WE WENT FROM A 9.99-ACRE SITE TO THE FULL SITE WHICH IS 18.95 ACRES. SO AS FAR AS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, IT WAS SEVEN LOTS, AND I THINK PART OF RAVERS EDGE'S CONCERN WAS RI RIVERS EDGE CONCERN WAS HAVE YOU CHANGED THE NUMBER OF LOTS? NO, IT'S STILL SEVEN, SAME PROPERTY. OKAY.

AND I THINK THAT'S -- I'M NOT PUTTING WORDS IN ANYONE'S MOUTH B. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT CAME FROM THE HOA TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING'S CONCERN WAS. OUR ORIGINAL COMMUNITY MEETING, THERE ALSO WAS CONCERN THAT ON OUR SOUTHERN BOUNDARY WE HAD A CONFLICT BETWEEN RIVERS EDGE AND US.

WE DON'T HAVE A 100-FOOT BUFFER BUFFER ON OUR SIDE BUT THERE ACTUALLY IS A GAP BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS THAT'S SHOWN THERE ANOTHER AERIAL. THEY HAVE THEIR OPEN SPACE AS PART OF THEIR PUD. OBVIOUSLY, PUDS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE SO THERE IS THIS USAGE ACCEPT SPRAIRPT BETWEEN THEO PARCELS.

AND OUT OF A ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION FOR OUR PURPOSES, WE'VE TAKEN THE UNDISPUTED MEASUREMENT FOR OUR BOUNDARIES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THEM, SO I THINK THAT ELIMINATED THAT ISSUE. AS FAR AS THE NORTH SUBJECT TO OUR COMMUNITY MEETING, WE DID OFFER TO ADD THIS 20-FOOT SEPARATION UNDERSTANDING THAT A PUDS MIGHT HAVE A 10-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, SO WE WENT TO 20 AS A GOOD COMPROMISE IT IS.

WORKS WELL FOR THE PROJECT ANYWAY.

SO WITH THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

>> DOES NIG NUB HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS -- ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. BURNETT? IF NOT, WE'RE BACK INTO THE

ANGST. >> MR. CHAIR, BEFORE YOU GET BACK IN THE AGENCY, MAY I COMMENT?

>> YES, YOU MAY. >> I'VE CONSULTED WITH MY COLLEAGUES, AND IF THE INTENT OF THESE DIVISIONS THAT MR. BURNETT HAS PROVIDED INSIDE THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS TO SELL THESE DIVISIONS OFF TO INDIVIDUALS SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD LIVE ON THESE PARTICULAR PARCELS, A PLAT WILL BE NEEDED.

THERE ARE SEVEN DIVISIONS HERE, AND, YES, A PLAT WILL BE

NEEDED. >> BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO

DIVIDE A PARCEL ONE TIME. >> YES, SIR.

>> WITHOUT A PLAT, AND WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ENGINEERING.

>> NER. >> THAT'S WHAT YES, S.

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>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY.

WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENT SMALL SCALE 20192019-02 SHAW PROPERTY AS PROVIDED BY THE STAFF REPORT.

>> MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND.

SECOND BY MR. MILLER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, MR. BURNETT.

ON TO MS. WHITTINGTON AND ITEM NUMBER 19.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE WITH

REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 15? >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

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. THIS IS PURELY ADMINISTRATIVE.

YOU'VE NOT SEEN ONE OF THESE COME BEFORE YOU BEFORE BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT'S EVER BEEN DMUNT COUNTY.

SO I WILL GO THROUGH IT AS QUICKLY AS I CAN.

IT'S BEEN A LONG AGENDA. YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALL RECOGNIZED THIS SIGN. THE MARSHALL CREEK DRI IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS PLANSIA. IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 1998 WHICH MAKES IT 23 YEARS OLD, AND NOT TO COMMENT ON MY AGE OR ANYTHING BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR 20 YEARS OR MORE. THE DRI IS COMPRISED OF THREE PUDS. THE MARSHALL CREEK PUD IN YELLOW, THE PLANS Y. NORTH PUD IN --IENCE FLORIDA NORTH PUD IN MR. HUGO AND THE LAST -- IN ORANGE.

SO IN 2018 THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE AMEND THE ED TE STATUTE TO STRIKE THE DRI PROVISION FOR WHAT WAS FORMERLY REFERRED TO AS ESSENTIALLY BUILT-OUT AGREEMENTS.

IT ELIMINATED THE DEO, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS THE STATE, OF THESE DRI CLOSE-OUT AGREEMENTS AND TURNED IT OVER TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

THIS IS THE FIRST ONE, AS I MENTIONED.

SO WE ARE BLAZINGS SOME NEW TERRITORY HERE, BUT I'M SURE IT WILL NOT BE THE LAST. SINCE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WORK, ROADS, UTILITIES, STORM WATER SYSTEM, ET CETERA, HAS BEEN COMPLETED, WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO CLOSE OUT THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER, AND THIS THIS AGREEMENT WILL EFFECTIVELY TERMINATE THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER BUT IT PRESERVES AND DOCUMENTS THE REMAINING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND RESERVE TRIPS.

SO NOW THEY'RE CALLED DRI BUILT-OUT AGREEMENTS.

ALL OF THE IMPACTS OF THE DRI HAVE BEEN FULLY MITIGATED.

AND AS IT SAYS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, ALL DRI CONDITIONS, OBLIGATIONS AND MITIGATION HAS BEEN SATISFIED.

ALL CONCURRENCY REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN SATISFIED.

THIS AGREEMENTS WILL MEMORIALIZE THE SATISFACTION OF ALL THOSE DRI OBLIGATIONS OF THE MASTER DEVELOPER.

IT ALSO DOCUMENTS AND PRESERVES THE REMAINING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND RESERVE TRIPS. SO SOME OF THE PROJECT BENEFITS, 861 ACRES HAVE BEEN PRESERVED UNDER PERMANENT PERPETUAL CONSERVATION EASEMENTS. THE SURFACE WATER QUALITY MONITORING PROGRAM HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

THEY MONITORED THE WATER FOR OVER TEN YEARS, AND THERE WAS VIRTUALLY NO DEGRADATION OF ANY WATER BODY.

THEY HAVE INSTALLED 50 ACRES OF NATIVE PLANT THANKS WILL NEVER REQUIRE IRRIGATION, 20.49 ACRES OF NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, 24.68 ACRES OF COMMUNITY PARKS, NORTH LOOP PARKWAY WHICH IS THE MAIN ROAD, OFF THE MAIN ROAD HAS BEEN DESIGNED AS A SEHR SCAPE SCHAND. ARE THERE VILLAGE GREEN AND LINEAR PARK ALONG PLANS YAW PARK DRIVE.

THERE'S A STWIM AND TENNIS IS THERE, FITNESS CENTER AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND FISHING PIER.

2 MEANT 58 FIRE STATION HAS SITE THAT IS BEEN CONVEYED.

10 ACRES ATHLETIC FACILITY IS A PUBLIC PARK.

IT'S ALSO BEEN CON SPRAIPPED THE SCHOOL SITE PLANSIA TEMERITY ELEMENTARY STOOL HAS BEEN CONVEYED TO THE SCOL DISTRICT THEFS SATISFIED $3,000,622 IN TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED INCLUDING THE INTERSECTION OF IGE AND US-1. THEY HAVE EXRUCTD AND IT'S VERY CEFL PLINSIA GOLF CLUB BEST IN CLASS 33,000 CLUBHOUSE, CHAMPIONSHIP COURSE AND PRACTICE FACILITY.

THE TABLE ON THE LEFT SHOWS YOU THE ORIGINAL DRI THAT A DEVELOPMENT HA WAS APPROVED. 2,774 UNITS, RETAIL SERVICE WAS 300,000, OFFICE 300,000 AND, OF COURSE, 18 GOLF HOLES.

THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT IN GREEN SHOWS YOU WHAT'S LEFT.

YEA UNITS, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 95,823 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SERVICE, SOMETIMES CALLED COMMERCIAL, OFFICE IS 179544 AND, OF COURSE, THERE'S NO GOLF HOLES REMAINING.

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THIS IS AN AERIAL THAT SHOWS THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WRAP AROUND A FEW OF THE GOLF HOLES THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THIS AERIAL.

THIS IS THE TRELLIS PARK, PARK SIDE AND MISSION PARK NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS GRAPHIC. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE GOLF CLUBHOUSE AND RESTAURANT. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE FREQUENTED IT. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE CLUBHOUSE. THIS IS CALLED THE VILLAGE GREEN OVERLOOKING THE GOLF COURSE. SOMETIMES -- IT'S A PARK, BUT SOMETIMES THEY HOLD WEDDINGS AND OTHER EVENTS.

THIS IS A PALENCI COMMUNITY POOL AND AMENITIES.

THIS IS THE PALENCI NORTH FITNESS CENTER.

PALENCI NORTH ATHLETIC POOL. PALENCI TENNIS CLUB FACILITY.

THE PALENCI ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FACILITIES THIS IS THE COMMUNITY PARK THAT'S BEEN CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY FOR A PUBLIC PARK.

EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EITHER A POCKET PARK WITH PLAY EQUIPMENT OR JUST GREEN SPACE. AND, OF COURSE, THIS IS A MULTI-USE DRI, SO THIS SHOWS YOU JUST SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE SHOPS AT PALENCIA COMMONS, MERCADO PARK AND PALENCIA PLAZA. THIS IS MARKET STREET AT NIGHT.

THESE ARE LIVE/WORK USING WITH THE RIELT FIRST FLOOR AND -- RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND LIVING AREA ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS. THIS IS THE TOLLAMA DOCTOR'S RIVER BOARDWALK. IT'S HALF A MILE TO THE PICNIC AREA AND 7/10 OF A MILE BEYOND THAT OUT INTO THE INTRACOASTAL WATERWAY. THE BOARDWALK IS 1.2 MILES LONG, AND IT TERMINATES IN A FISHING PIER WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE FAMILY GOING OUT TO. THIS IS MY FAVORITE SHOT OF THE BOARDWALK. YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE, ALL THE WAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OUT TOTZ INTRACOASTAL. TOOK ME TEN YEARS TO CLEAR THE TITLE THAT OF BOARDWALK BUT WE DID IT.

SO WHEN THAT, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? WITH ALL THE'S BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING?

>> WITH ALL THE'S BANE HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING.

HE WAS JUST A LITTLE PUPPY AT THE TIME.

>> I REMEMBER HIP. DID YOU LIVE EAR OR MOVE HERE?

>> I LIVED HERE. >> WE'RE GLAD YOU CAME.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'RE BACK IN THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF DRI MODIFICATION 2018-05 MARSHALL CREEK DRI BASED UPON

FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOTION BY MS. PERKINS TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. PIERRE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'D JUST SAY A JOB WELL DONE, WITH ALL THE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.