Aug 19, 2021 Planning and Zoning Agency

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>> I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE, AND LET'S BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

IF EVERYBODY WOULD STAND, PLEASE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, THAT WAS A GOOT H. GOOD START. AT MY AIRLINE I DIDN'T FORGET ANY OF THE WORDS. VERY GOOD START.

LET'S GO TO THE READING OF THE PUBLIC NOTICE STATEMENT.

MADAME VICE CHAIR >> MS. PERKINS: YES.

THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONCURRENCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TO THE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENT AT A DESIGNATED TIME DURING THE HEARING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRING TO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPLETING A SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN THE FOYER ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE HEARD AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRMAN.

SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN TO STAFF.

THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIME DURING THE MEETING AND IT'S A LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BY CHAIRMAN WHICH IS THREE MINUTES SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, WHO THEY REPRESENT, AND STATE THEIR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIMONY.

IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TESTIMONY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHT OR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING, SUCH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.

ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, SUCH AS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, OR WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETAINED BY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD.

THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER BOARD AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY IN ANY REVIEW OR APPEAL RELATING TO THE ITEM. BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOULD STATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITEM OUTSIDE THE FORMAL

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WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.

WE WILL DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES.

WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO APPARENTLY WE HAVE A REQUEST TO POSTPONE VARIANCE 2021-09. DO WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT?

>> YES, SIR, PLEASE. >> MR. MATOVINA: WOULD SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED TO POSTPONE VIRIANS

2021-09 TO SEPTEMBER 2, 2021. >> MOTION TO DEFER.

WHICH ONE WHAT IS IT? >> 202009.

>> 2020-09 TO SEPTEMBER. >> 2021-09.

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 1/21/21 and PZA 2/18/21.]

>> 2021-09. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> TO SEPTEMBER 2ND. >> ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL JUST DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED IN THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR MEETING MINUTES FOR JANUARY 24, 2021 AND FEBRUARY 18, 2021. YOU CAN EITHER MAKE A MOTION TO DO ONE AT A TIME OR SEPARATE. MOVE TO APPROVE JANUARY 21,

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>> GOT A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> YOU GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE LET'S CALL A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED.

THAT MOTION PASSES. OKAY.

NOW WE'RE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE MEETING.

THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT AVAILABLE, TIME AVAILABLE AS EACH ITEM IS BROUGHT UP, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO COME UP AND MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA NOW OR SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.

>> THE TIME FOR PUBLIC -- >> YES, MA'AM.

YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> MAUREEN LONG 1821 CAST STEEL STREET, MENENDEZ PARK.

LAST MONTH WE CELEBRATED ST. JOHNS COUNTY $200 ANNIVERSARY. TOWED MY NEIGHBORS AND I WANTED TO BRING ATTENTION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEN EBB DEZ PARK WHICH PLAYED A PIFL PIVOTAL ROLL IN THE FING OUR COUNTY AND CITY.

WE CREATED THE BINDER IN FRONT OF YOU AS A WAY TO BRING THE PIEWT COMPEHISTORY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO EACH YOU.

YOU SEE, MENENDEZ PARK SUBDIVISION WAS LAID OUT IN

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SPANISH HET SETTLERS QUARTER I HAD IN USING THE CASTILEIO SMOKERS WHICH PROTECTED THE CITY FROM ITS ENEMIES.

THE THE OLD SPANISH CHIMNEY PART OF THE QUARRY FOREMAN'S HOUSE AND WELL ON OLD BEACH ROARED PHYSICAL LYNX TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S HISTORIC PAST SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE ON AN TRAISH YEAH ISLAND COME FOR A VISIT. CHECK OUT THE OLD CHIMNEY AND TAKE A WALK IN OUR BEAUTIFUL MAYOR TIME HAMMOCK AND ENJOY THE PEACEFUL ENVIRONMENT WE ALL SHARE IN MENENDEZ PARK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE JUST DID THIS AS A WAY.

WE KNOW EVERYBODY IS BUSY. IT MIGHT BE HARD FOUR TO COME ON

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SO THANK YOU. >> MA'AM, THIS IS A VERY IMPRESSIVE PACKAGE, AND IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL OF YA'LL TO DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOD BLESS. >> YOU THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR TANK THE TIME. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 1 IN OUR AGENDA AND CALL MR. WHITEHOUSE UP TO THE PODIUM.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS.

FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS JAMES HIGHWAYS HOUSE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY LAW GROUP HERE IN STNGS COUNTY, FLORIDA.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

CIRCLE K STORES, THE OWNER OF THIS APPLICATION.

THE OWNER OF THE PARCEL THAT AS I SAID, AND YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR AGENDA AND YOUR STAFF REPORT PACKAGE, WE'RE HERE FOR A REQUEST FOR A NON-ZONING VARIANCE, AND IT'S FOR SIGNAGE ON THIS PARCEL. IT'S LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF STJ PARKWAY WHERE IT DEAD ENDS CURRENTLY INTO RACE TRACK ROAD AND WHERE RACE TRACK ROAD COPS AROUND THE CURVE YOU CAN SEE THAT IN YOUR SCREEN AS WELL AS YOUR STAFF REPORT PACKAGE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS THAT THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED DIRECTLY WITHIN THIS MIXED USE DISTRICT.

THIS IS A COPY OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN MAP WHICH SHOWS THAT THIS PARCEL HAD BEEN REZONED TO PUD OR THIS PARCEL ALONG WITH SEVERAL PARCELS NEXT TO IT WERE REZONE TO PUD BACK IN 2018 AND ORDINANCE 2018-49, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR MAP HOW THE PARCEL ON THE CORNER IS THE ONE WE TALK ABOUT TODAY.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP WHICH SHOWS IT'S SURROUND BY A NUMBER OF PUDS IN THIS MIXED USE DISTRICT.

THIS IS AN AERIAL THAT KIND OF SHOWS A GOOD DEPICTION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS WHERE ST. JOHNS PARKWAY COMING NORTH RUNS INTO RACE TRACK ROAD AND RACE TRACK ROAD COMES AROUND THIS BEND IN THE ROAD 45 MILES AN HOUR ALONG RACE TRACK ROAD HERE.

ON THIS AERIAL ALSO SHOWS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW MUCH I EVER HAD ROAFERRED RIGHT-OF-WAY THIS IS ON THE NORTHWEST SECTOR ON A LOT OF THESE ROADS WHICH SETS THESE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, PRETTY FAR BACK FROM THE ROAD. AS WELL YOU HAVE THE 75-FOOT SCENIC EDGE WHICH ARE DENSELY LANDSCAPED UNDER THE CODE AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NORTHWEST SECTOR PLAN.

HERE YOU CAN SEE, AS I SAID, UP ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT THE CIRCLE C K

AND THIS IS. >> THE CIRCLE K AND THE FUEL PUMPS AND THIS IS THE CANOPY. THESE ARE A COUPLE PICTURES.

AS A SAID, THIS IS FROM THE INTERSECTION OF ST. JOHNS PARKWAY AND RACE TRACK ROAD. I. LOOKING NORTH I GUESS SOUTH, I'M SORRY, EAST, SOUTHEAST ON TROOT YOU CAN SEE AS I SAID AND FROM THE APPLICATION OF THE STAFF REPORT THIS IS THE PYLON SIGN FOR THE PUD WITH CIRCLE K AS ONE OF THE MAIN TENANTS ON THE CORNER HERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT AS YOU COME PAST IT ON RACE TRACK ROAD THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION THAT BENDS, THERE'S A LOT OF ALL THE POLES AND BOXES AND LINES AS WELL AS THIS IS FROM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO NOW BUT YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THE VEGETATION THAT HAD TO BE PLANTED, AND NOW IT'S EVEN MORE DENSE. THIS IS A COPY OF THE SIGN PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT WHEN THE STORE WAS APPROVED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, AND ALL THE SIGNS ARE INDICATED ON HERE. IN FACT, YOU SEE THE PYLON SIGN HERE WHICH IS A AT THE INTERSECTION.

YOU SEE THE TWO BUILDING SIGNS WHICH ARE JUST INDICATOR SIGNS OF CIRCLE K. ONE IS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, ONE'S ON THE FRONT HERE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN UP HERE FOR ST. JOHNS

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ALL OF THESE WERE APPROVED. THESE TWO -- I'M SORRY.

THE CANOPY SIGNS. THIS E1 AND E2 ARE JUST INDICATORS OF THE STORE ITSELF. THIS E3 IS THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, AND THIS IS -- IT'S A SMALL SIGN.

IT'S ONLY LIKE 36 INCHES BY 40 INCHES.

AS I SAID, IT WAS APPROVED. WHEN THEY WENT OUT TO PUT IT UP, THOUGH, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, HEY, LISTEN, SINCE THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC CHANGEABLE SIGNED UNDER THE CODE, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET NON-ZONING VARIANCE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU FOR THIS.

TO GET A NON-ZONING VARIANCE, YOU HAVE TO SHOW -- LET ME TELL YOU FIRST. SO THIS IS WHAT COMES FROM YOUR STAFF OF REPORT. IT'S BASICALLY HAD TO APPROVESON ZONING VARIANCE 2021-07 REQUESTING NON-ZONING VARIANCE TO SECTION 7.02 .04G OF THE LAND DISEVMENT CODE TO ALLOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF DIGITAL FUEL PRICING SIGNS ON THE EDGE OF THE FUEL CANOPY SPECIFICALLY. AGAIN I FAWKD IT A LITTLE BIT UP. SEE THE STEPHANIE RESERVED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON RACE TRACK ROAD AS WELL AS ON ST. JOHNS PARKWAY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK COMING THROUGH THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY. HERE YOU HAVE THE 75-FOOT SCENIC EDGE SO YOU'RE ALREADY TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF FEET BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO THE SCENIC EDGE. U. THE SCENIC EDGE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE BUILDING AND THE CANOPY WHICH ARE HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE'S 44 FEET FROM HERE AND ALMOST 40 FEET FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HERE. THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITE BECAUSE A TOLD YOU BECAUSE IT'S IN THIS INTERSECTION, BECAUSE IT'S ON A PLACE WHERE THE NORTHWEST SECTOR COME TOGETHER, BECAUSE IT'S IN A PLACE WHERE RACE TRACK ROAD BENDS AROUND THE SERVER TO THE SOUTH THERE'S EVER THERE'S AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF UTILITY BOXES, UTILITY POLLS AND LINES AND YOU HAVE THE RESERVE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE SCENIC EDGE.

SO ALL THOSE THINGS WE WOULD ASSERT TO YOU SHOW PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IN WHY COMING TO YOU THERE'S -- IT'S HARD TO SEE A MONUMENT SIGN PLACED IN THIS AREA WHICH IS WHAT THAT 70204G SAYS, THESE INTERCHANGEABLE SIGNS CAN ONLY BE ALLOWED ON MONUMENT SIGNS ON THE GROUND UNLESS YOU SHOW THAT THERE ARE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES TO SEE THAT SIGN.

THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE SCENIC EDGE. THIS IS ST. JOHNS PARKWAY COMING NORTH INTO RACE TRACK ROAD UP HERE.

THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY INTO THE PUD ITSELF, AND THIS IS WHERE THE MONUMENT SIGN IS. AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BACK FROM THE DRIVEWAY BUT HERE YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU PLACE THE MONUMENT SIGN IN THE SCENIC EDGE IT'S KIND OF BLOCKED OUT PRESIDENT ROAD, AND IT'S EVEN MORE BLOCKED OUT FROM THE ROAD ON THE SIDE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THE UTILITY POLES AND THE BOXES AND THE LINES, ET CETERA.

SO NOW WE GET TO WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR APPROVING A NON-ZONING VARIANCE, AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM REAL QUICKLY FOR YOU. I KNOW YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW THEM BECAUSE YOU DEAL WITH NON-ZONING VARIANCES SOMETIMES BUT YOU WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT BHEET ALL THE CRITERIA P NUMBER ONE YOU HAVE TO SHOW THERE'S PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES IN CARRYING OUT THE STRICT LETTER OF THE REGULATION.

AS I SAID, 70204G TALKS ABOUT THESE KIND OF DIGITAL SIGNS HAVE TO BE ON A GROUND SIGN. THAT'S REALLY -- THERE'S A DIFFICULTY IN THIS SITUATION, AND THIS UNIQUE LOT, BECAUSE OF THE BLOCKAGE TO BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT WHEN YOU COME BY AT 45 MILES AN HOUR AROUND A CURVE ON RACE TRACK ROAD, IN FACT, IF ANY OF YOU WENT OUT THERE YOU SEE THAT YOU'RE ALMOST PAST IT BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN SEE THE BUSINESS IS THIS, MUCH LESS ANY OTHER INDICATOR AS TO IN A MIXED USE IN THE COUNTY WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW OUR BUSINESSES TO BE SUCCESSFUL, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS THAT WE HAVE ZONED FOR CERTAIN COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

SO WE WOULD ASSERT THERE ARE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES.

I SHOWED YOU THE PICTURES AND SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE GONE OUT THERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES IN THIS AREA WHERE A MONUMENT SIGN WOULD BE, PLACING IT ON HIGHER UP ON A CANOPY THAT'S ABOUT 17-1/2 FEET HIGH WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, YOU CAN SEE THAT MUCH BETTER, AS YOU ALL CAY UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HAVE BILLBOARDS UP HIGHER, TOO, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ONE OF THOSE HERE.

THIS IS ONLY 36 INCHES BY 48 INCHES, BUT THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HAVE THINGS HIGHER, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THEM OVER PARTICULAR BLOCKAGES OF THE VIEW SHED. AGAIN, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK. NUMBER 2, IS THIS THE TO REDUCE THE COST OF THE VALUE OF THE SITE? NO. IS THIS -- WILL THIS SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE CONGESTION ON THE SURROUNDING PUBLIC STREETS, DANGER, FIRE, OTHER HAZARDS FOR THE PUBLIC? NO. IN FACT WE A SITTER WOULD HELP CONGESTION OR OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE THE UJ U. VIEWAGE OF SIGN IS MUCH BETTER THAN IN THE LOCATION WE ARE REQUESTING DISMA WAS APPROVED IN THE FIRST SIGN PLAN I WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT.

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WE WOULD A ASSERT TO YOU AGAIN THAT THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE THE INTENT WAS ACTUALLY TO PROTECT AGAINST THE PROLIFERATION OF THESE AUTOMATIC CHANGEABLE SIGNS ON THE SIDE OF BUILDINGS, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

WE'RE TALKING FOR A SMALL 36 BY 48-INCH SMALL DIGITAL SIGN ON THE SIDE OF THE CANOPY WHICH INDICATES THE FUEL, AND IT'S NOE DIFFERENT FUEL SIGNS IT. JUST SHOWS ONE OF THEM SO IT'S NOT ONE OF THESE BIG SIGNS YOU'RE PUTTING OUT.

IT'S JUST A SMALL ONE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS CIRCLE K GAS STATION, THIS IS HOPEFUL THE GAS IS BECAUSE THE GAS IS ON A HOW THEY GET THEIR CUSTOMERS, AS YOU ALL CAN UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S HOW YOU -- THAT'S HOW YOU ADVERTISE, AND THAT'S HOW YOU'LS SEE GAS PRICES AND SIGNS AROUND ON FUEL STATIONS.

OKAY. AND FINALLY WE HAVE THIS FIRST PART JUST GOES THROUGH, AND IT WAS LAID OUT IN YOUR STAFF SF REPORT BUT YOU WANTED TO REITERATE THIS IS NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY BECAUSE IN 70204B6-A IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT VARIANCES TO SIGNS WITHIN PUDS, DEVIATIONS TO SIGNS STANDARDS IN PUDS THAT ARE LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC SIGN ON A SPECIFIC PARCEL, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE, MAY BE APPROVED BY A NOP ZONING VARIANCE APPLICATION. AND THEN FINALLY WHEN YOU DISCUSS YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION AND NON-ZONING VARIANCE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIGNS, AND SO THESE ARE, FIRST-- AND THIS IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, TOO, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT OUT LOUD FOR THE RECORD. THE APPLICANT MUST PROVE THE COPY FACE FOR MESSAGE NOT EFFECTIVELY BE VIEWABLE FROM THE NEAREST ROAD OR STREET AND THE AGENCY MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST AFTER CONSIDERING THE DISTANCE OF THE SIGN -- I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THOSE WITH YOU -- AND CLEARLY THE DISTANCES CAUSED SOME ISSUES WITH VIEWAGE OF THE SIGN, AS I SHOWED YOU THE PICTURES AS WELL. SECOND, THE SPEED LIMIT I TOLD YOU IS 45 MILES AN HOUR COMING AROUND THE CURVE.

SO THAT DOES AFFECT THE VIEWAGE OF THE SIGN.

3, THE VINLZ IMPACT OF THE SIGN FROM THE NEAREST ROADWAY WHICH IS AS I SAID RACE TRACK ROAD AROUND THE BEND, AND THEN THAT WAS THE PICTURE THAT I SHOWED YOU.

AND THEN FINALLY DOES THE INDY INTEGRATION OF SIGN OR SIGNS WORK INTO THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDINGS, AND WOULD I SAY THAT IT DOES. THESE ARE FROM THE APPROVED SIGN PLAN. THAT IS THC THE CIRCLE Q, THE FRONT OF BUILDINGS, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS WHICH FITS INTO THE ARCHITECTURE AS WELL AS THIS IS THE WAY -- THIS IS NOT THAT SITE BUT THIS IS TYPICAL OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, ALTHOUGH IN THIS SITE, THE INDICATOR SIGN IS IN THIS CORNER INSTEAD OF THIS ONE HERE BUT IT'S A VERY SMALL STEIN UP HERE NOT SIGN UP HERE IN THE CORNER.

AGAIN THERE'S SOME EXTRA CONDITIONS.

THESE HAVE ALREADY BEEN FOUND TO BE MET BY THE SIGN.

THE STAFF HAS ALREADY SAID THAT AND THEY RIRLT REITERATE THAR STAFF REPORT. I WON'T GO THROUGH THE CONCLUSION BUT BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IS THAT WE'RE ASKING TO YOU APPROVE THIS NON-ZONING VARIANCE BASED ON THE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT I HAVE PUT FORWARD IN YOUR SENIOR STAFF REPORT, AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO ALLOW THIS -- ALLOW THIS SIGN IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE DO THAT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE?

GO AHEAD. >> MS. PERKINS: I SPOKE WITH MR. WHITEHOUSE THIS AFTERNOON AND WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THE APPLICATION SANCHTS I SPOKE WITH MR. WHITEHOUSE VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE APPLICATION THIS AFTERNOON.

>> MR. MATOVINA: ANYONE ELSE? >> I SPOKE TO MR. WHITEHOUSE I THINK YESTERDAY AND WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THE CANOPY

APPLICATION. >> MR. MATOVINA: AND THE CHAMBERLAIN AND I EXCHANGED TEXT MESSAGES AND I ACTUALLY DROVE BY THERE HAS NIGHT AND LOOKED AT IT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WHITEHOUSE? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> MR. MATOVINA: SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MS. PERKINS: MOTION TO APPROVE NON-ZONING VARIANCE 2021-07 CIRCLE K RACE TRACK ROAD SIGNAGE REQUEST FOR NON-ZONING VARIANCE TO SECTION 700204G OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW FOR THE PLACE A DIGITAL FUEL PRICING SIGNS ON THE EDGE OF THE FUEL CANOPY BASED ON EIGHT FIEWNGSD OF FACT AND PROVIDED FIVE CONDITIONS OF FACT

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PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> MR. MATOVINA: MOTION BY MS. .

SECOND BY DR. MCCORMICK. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE HANDOUTS. >> THANK YOU.

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>> MR. MATOVINA: ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2 ON YOUR AGENDA, AND THAT IS THE CROOMS, AND A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE UNKNEWCATION TO DECLARE ON THIS ITEM? NO EX PARTE. YES, MA'AM.

ON THIS ITEM, BY THE WAY, IN CASE I FORGET, WE NEED AS PART

OF THE MOTION. >> I DROVE BY THE ADDRESS ON

TUESDAY, I THINK IT WAS. >> MR. MATOVINA: OKAY.

WE'LL NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT AND THEN DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO MAKE THIS, IF WE APPROVE IT, TRANSFERABLE AS PART OF THE MOTION IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS BERLINDA CROOMS. 901 WEST SIXTH STREET APPLYING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT

VARIANCE. >> GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

WAS THAT YOUR PRESENTATION? >> OH.

THE ZONING VARIANCE AND SCET-BACK CLEARANCE AS WELL.

>> SO WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS HERE. WE'VE GOT ITEM NUMBER 2 AND ITEM NUMBER 3. AND DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR

PRESENTATION, MA'AM? >> I -- YES.

>> OKAY. SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR QUESTIONS. I HAD ACTUALLY A QUESTION PROCEDURALLY. CHRISTINE, DO WE NEED TO TAKE UP

ITEM 4 FIRST? >> NO, WE DO NOT.

I HAD THE SAME QUESTION, AND ACCORDING TO MS. COLEE, THE VARIANCE IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE SPECIAL USE PROVISION, SO THE ORDER IS CORRECT ON THE AGENDA.

>> MA'AM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHEN DID YOU BUY THIS PROPERTY? >> I'M RENTING TO OWN IT.

MARCH OF LAST YEAR. I PURCHASED IT THROUGH THE

PARCEL BUDGET. >> ALL RIGHT.

AND HAVE YA'LL CONSIDERED MOVING THE HOUSE TO THE SOUTH SO YOU

ONLY NEED TO SEEK ONE VARIANCE? >> YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. I WAS TOLD THAT IT CAN GO -- THE WAY THEY SAY IT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE IT GOES.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 2 AND -- WOULD YOU LIKE THIS TO BE TRANSFERABLE, WHICH MEANS IF YOU SELL THE PROPERTY, THE VARIANCE GOES TO THE NEXT PERSON OR -- I ASSUME YOU WOULD.

>> IF I WOULD SELL IT EVER IN MY LIFE?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> I DOUBT IF I WILL.

YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

DR. MCCORMICK.

>> APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2021-21 SUBJECT TO SEVEN CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND. >> SECOND BY MR. PETER.

ANY DISCUSSION? >> MR. MATT VENA, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION, BUT IS THIS MOTION INTENDED TO ALLOW

TRANSFER A BULLET OR NOT? >> THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US.

DR. MCCORMICK, DO YOU WANT IT TO BE APPROVED WITH TRANSFERA

BUILT? >> YOU SAID --

>> YES, THERE'S A CHOICE. >> YES.

>> OKAY. THEN MR. PETER, DO YOU SECOND

THE MOTION TO INCLUDE -- >> -- PARDON

ME? >> IT WAS MY NEIGHBOR HERE THAT

MADE THE SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.

SORRY. >> YES, I SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A

SECOND, AND MR. MILLER. >> I WOULD OFFER A FRIENDLY

AMENDMENT. >> OKAY.

SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE

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THAT PASSES. NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3 WITH REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

DO WE NEED TO DEAL WITH TRANSFERABILITY ON A SPECIAL USE

PERMIT ALSO? >> YES, PLEASE.

>> SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 3.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE PERMIT SUB MIN 2020-01 AS TEN FINDINGS AND FIVE CONDITIONS OF FACT AS PROVIDE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT

IT BE TRANSFERABLE. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND IN A SECOND BY DR. MCCORMICK. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, BEFORE WE REGISTER THE VOTE, LET ME MAKE SURE NOBODY HAS ANY EX PARTE ON THIS ITEM EITHER I ASSUME SINCE YOU

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DIDN'T HAVE IT ON ITEM 2. >> I DROVE BY.

YES. IT'S THE SAME ONE PRIOR TO, SO I

DROVE BY. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. REGISTER THE VOTE.

THAT PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 4. YES, SIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JERED LOUCEL WITH THE LAW OFTSZ OF JARED LOUCEL AND I'M THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT.

THE OWNER IS MR. DAVID BENT. MY ADDRESS IS 9310 OLD KINGS ROAD SOUTH, SUITE 302, AND THAT IS IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

WE'RE HERE TODAY SEEKING A ZONING VARIANCE REGARDING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO TABLE 6.01 TO ALLOW A FRONT YARD SET BACK OF 15 FEET IN LIEU OF THE 25-FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNIT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY. SO WE'RE HERE ON ZONING VARIANCE 2020-008, AND THIS IS REGARDING PROPERTY 382 NORTH ROSCOE BOULEVARD. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LOCATION MAP, IT'S THAT LITTLE RECTANGLE THERE, AND IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL-A, THE FUTURE RUSE -- I'M SORRY -- FUTURE USE WILL BE RESIDENTIAL-A IN THAT SECTION, AND CURRENTLY IT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DEVELOP OR USE IT FOR AT THIS TIME. WITH AN AERIAL MAP YOU CAN SEE A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY STRETCHES OUT ONTO THE MARSH AND SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS IS ACTUALLY COVERED WITH WETLANDS.

IN KEEPING WITH FLORIDA ZONING AND CONSTRUCTION BUILDING REQUIREMENTS, IT WAS ALSO REQUIRED THAT WE APPLY FOR AND OBTAIN A PERMIT FROM FLORIDA DEP, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, WHICH WE HAVE, AND THAT IS ON FILE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY AS WELL IN THE PACKET BEFORE THE PANEL. HERE IS THE DETAILED SITE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW DOWN. THE CURRENT ROAD NORTH ROSCOE BOULEVARD IS HERE. THIS IS THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT. FROM THERE, THERE IS THE UTTER U. CURB ELECTRONIC AND THE SET BACK INTO THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

THIS IS THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE HOME TO BE CONSTRUCTED AT THE 15-FOOT MARK RATHER THAN THE 25-FOOT MARK. AND A LARGE CONSIDERATION FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IN THIS SECTION OF THE PROPERTY THERE IS THE MARSH AND WETLANDS HERE, AND IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE HOME AND HAVE IT BE MORE SOUND DURING ANY WEATHER OR AVOID SLUMP OR OTHER ISSUES AND TO PREVENT UNNECESSARILY DISTURBING THE WETLANDS, WHICH IS A LARGE DETAIL HERE IN THIS IT'S WHY MANY PEOPLE BUILD THIERRY HOMES HERE, IS TO OBSERVE AND ENJOY THE WETLANDS. WE ARE SAC SEEKING THE SETBACK OF A MERE 10 FEET OR RELAX IT A MERE 10 FEET TO ALLOW TO US BUILD AT THE 15-FOOT SETBACK. THERE WILL BE A BULKHEAD THAT IS INSTALLED, AND AGAIN THAT'S TO PREVENT SUBSIDENCE AND TO ALLOW STABILITY FOR THE BUILDING OF THE HOME, AND THERE WILL BE PILE ONS AS WELL DRIVEN INTO A PORTION OF THE MARSH, BUT WE'RE

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THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUILDING. THE FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE DESIGN, THE LAYOUT.

IT WILL BE IN KEEPING WITH THE 35-FOOT FROM THE MEAN HIGH WATER MARK HERE. IT DOES REFLECT 36 .5-INCH BUT THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE MEAN WATER MARK.

WE ARE NOT SEEKING ANY OTHER VARIANCE AT THIS TIME AND BELIEVE THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WILL BE WHOLLY CONTAINED WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND IN KEEPING WALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AS WELL AS ANY OF THE PLANT LIFE, VEGETATION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE PROPERTY AS WELL. THESE ARE IMAGES OF THE CURRENT SITE. THAT IS AGAIN THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT. YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE PROPOSED SITE ITSELF WHERE THE COUNTY HAD PLACED THE NOTICE OF THE MEETING. AND THIS IS A CLOSER-UP LOOKING INTO THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE, ALTHOUGH IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE WITH THE VEGETATION, THE MARSH BEGINS JUST PAST THIS DROP-OFF HERE, AND THEN THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL WATER AS WE GET CLOSER BACK OUT. DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE SITE IS A VACANT LOT. I'M SORRY.

ACROSS THE STREET. THE LOT DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE SITE IS ALSO VACANT. IT HAS A DOCK OR A PIER THAT WALKS OUT INTO THE MARCH ITSELF BUT THERE IS NO -- MARSH ITSELF BUT THERE IS NO HOME OR OTHER BUILDINGS DEVELOPED ON THAT PROPERTY. LOOKING SOUTH ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF FROM THE END, THE CUL-DE-SAC AREA OF NORTH ROSCOE, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS NO OTHER PROPERTY DEVELOPED ON THE NORTH EDGE OF THIS. THE HOME OR PROPERTY ITSELF WILL BE DEVELOPED HERE. AND AGAIN, THE ISSUE WITH THIS PROPERTY IS IT IS A NARROW PROPERTY.

IT IS COVERED EXTENSIVELY WITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS, AND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A MORE SURE FOUNDATION FOR THE HOME ITSELF IN ADDITION TO THE PYLONS, IT WILL BE REQUIRED, WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW US TO SHIFT THE HOME 10 FEET CLOSER TO THE ROADSIDE ON THE UPLANDS, AND IN DOING THIS IT'S NOT GOING TO PLACE THE HOME TOO CLOSE TO THE ROAD.

IT IS IN A CUL-DE-SAC AREA. THERE IS LIGHT TRAFFIC.

IT'S PURELY RESIDENTIAL. THERE ARE NO THROUGH STREETS IN THIS SECTION, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO UNNECESSARILY IMPACT TRAFFIC IN A NEGATIVE WAY OR CREATE AN UNSAFE SITUATION IN THAT VEIN, EITHER. SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE SEEKING THE RELAXATION OF THE SETBACK AND A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE HOME TO BE BUILT 10 FEET CLOSER TO THE PAVED SURFACE.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE? SEEING NONE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? HOW LONG HAS MR. DEN OWNED THIS

PROPERTY? >> MR. DENT HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY SEVERAL YEAR BUT HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP IT BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTIES. AND HE IS SEEKING NOW A VARIANCE BECAUSE HE PLANS ON BUILDING HIS PRIMARY HOME ON THIS PROPERTY AND HE WILL BE PLANNING TO HOMESTEAD IT AS WELL.

>> DO YOU KNOW IF HE WAS AWARE OF THE LIMITATIONS ON THE

PROPERTY WHEN HE BOUGHT IT? >> AT THE TIME HE WAS NOT AWARE OF OF THE STRICT LIMITATIONS ON IT.

HE BOUGHT IT SPHWOANGD PURCHASE AND USE IT FOR A HOME OF THIS NATURE, AND THEN IN DESIGNING AND BUILDING IT UP, HE REALIZED THAT ALL OF THIS WOULD BE NECESSARY.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR AGENCY ACTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2020-08 DENT RESIDENCE A REQUEST FOR A ZONING VARIANCE TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 6 WONT 01 TO ALLOW FOR A FRONT YARD SET BACK OF 15 FEET IN LIEU OF THE 25-FOOT RETIREMENT IN RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RS ZONING ZONING TO COME DATE TRUCKS AFTER YOU HOME KICK OFLY LIKED THE 382 NORTH ROSCOE BOULEVARD ON FIVE FINDINGS OF FACT AND SEVEN CONDITIONS.

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>> WOULD THAT BE TRANSFERABLE? >> YES.

>> WE'VE THE GUY MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. MILLER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION PASSES.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5, ISLAND PREP COVERED WALKWAY, IS

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>> YES. I DROVE BY THE PROPERTY ALSO ON

TUESDAY. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. PIERRE. YES, SIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL GODS GLAWDZ. I'M THE OWNER OF ISLAND PREP.

LEAVE IT 311 WEST ROAD, SANTIAGO FLOFULLY 2080.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A ZONING VARIANCE TO TABLE THE 10-FOOT REQUIREMENT IN COMMERCIAL GENERAL CG ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE FOR AN INSTALLATION OF COVERED AWNING OVER AN EXISTING CONCRETE PATHWAY THAT CONNECTS TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE USED AS A SCHOOL, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE THE TWO PROPERTIES. ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES AT 4001A1A SOUTH WHICH WAS OUR ORIGINAL PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR ST. AUGUSTINE BEACH, AND THE NEW PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT AT 4171 A1A SOUTH IS ZONED IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

ORIGINALLY BOTH THESE PROPERTIES WERE IN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY ZONING AND THEN WHEN THEY BUILT THE OCEAN TRACE SUBDIVISION BEHIND THE PROPERTY, THEY USED THE PROPERTY AT 4001 FOR DRAINAGE. THERE'S A RETENTION POND THERE THAT WE SHARE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US.

I'M JUST ASKING TO -- SINCE WE OWN BOTH PROPERTIES, I'M JUST ASKING TO CONNECT THE WALKWAY SO THE KIDS DON'T GET WET WHEN THEY WALK FROM ONE CLASSROOM TO THE OTHER.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE OWNED FOR A WHILE NOW. THE WALKWAY WILL JUST CONNECT THIS BUILDING TO THE BACK OF THIS BUILDING.

AND IT MEETS ALL THE SETBACKS. THE ONLY SETBACK THAT WE'RE ASKING IS THIS SETBACK RIGHT HERE FROM THIS BUILDING.

IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND STOP THAT ONE SO WE CAN JUST CONNECT THE WALKWAY TO THAT BUILDING. ONCE AGAIN, HERE'S OUR PROPOSED WALKWAY. IT FOLLOWS THIS.

IT MEETS ALL THE SETBACKS EXCEPT FOR THE SETBACK HERE ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY. AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO INSTALL. AND IT WOULD JUST FOLLOW THAT CONCRETE PATHWAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S A PRETTY LONG WALK FOR THE KIDS, AND WITH HOW MUCH RAIN AND HURRICANE TRAFFIC WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS YEAR, IT'S JUST KIND OF BASICALLY IT WOULD REACH UP TO WHERE THOSE BRICKS ARE.

THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

IT BASICALLY WILL BE KIND OF HIDDEN FROM VIEW BY OUR FENCE.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. >> ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? WHEN DID WE HEAR THE ZONING ON THE NEW BUILDING YOU BOUGHT?

HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT. >>

>> THAT WAS LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME.

SO IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR TO TRY TO GET THIS GOING.

>> DID YOU -- WERE YOU CONTEMPLATING BUILDING THIS AT

THE TIME? >> YES, SIR.

>> YOU WERE. >> SO WE HAD -- I HAD MY CONTRACTOR DO IT, AND THEN THIS IS WHERE WE RAN INTO THE PROBLEM

WITH THAT ZONING. >> BUT I MEAN WHEN YOU WERE BUYING THE PROPERTY, YOU CONTEMPLATED BUILDING THIS

COVERED WALKWAY. >> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION OR QUESTIONS. MR. PETER.

>> I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY FEEDBACK FROM ANY OF THE

SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. >> NO, SIR.

>> NO? >> I MEAN, A LOT OF OUR DLIENTS ARE THE CLIENTS ARE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ONLY BEAUTIFIED THE PROPERTY SINCE WE'VE TAKEN OVER BOTH. THEY WERE BOTH SITTING VACANT.

ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE TREES ARE, THIS USED TO BE A BUM ENCAMPMENTMENT AND WE WENT AHEAD AND CLEARED ALL THE VINES AND STUFF THAT WAS KIND OF KEEPING THE OAKS FROM EVEN SURVIVING. WE SPENT OUR OWN DIME TO CUT EVERYTHING DOWN, CLEANED IT UP, AND I THINK WE MADE EVERYTHING

LOOK REALLY NICE AND COHESIVE. >> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS.

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>> MOTION TO APPROVE ZONING VARIANCE 2021-15 IEBLED PREP COVERED WALKWAY, REQUEST FOR A ZONING VAIR EVER VARIANCE TO TABLE 6.01 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW A SIDE YARD SETBACK OF ZERO FEET IN LIEU OF THE 10-FOOT REQUIREMENT OF COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE FOR INSTALLATION OF COVERED AWNINGOVER EXISTING CONCRETE PATHWAY THAT CONNECTS% TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS USED LIE BIEFT PROPERTY CISKSLY OAKLAND ANOTHER 4045 BAIRDZ ON SEVEN CONDITIONS AND FIVE FINDINGS OF

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FACT. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND.

>> SECOND BY MR. PETER. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE.

DR. MCCORMICK, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT MOTION PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YA'LL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

>> OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6, THE ANDERSONS. AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY EX PARTE

COMMUNICATIONS. >> HI.

>> SEEING NONE, WE'RE READY FOR YOU, MA'AM.

>> OKAY. HI, I'M BRITTANY ANDERSON.

ADDRESS 7063 IRD 3RD STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA 30092.

>> DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?

>> NO, I'M SORRY. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO REPLACE THE 1981 MOBILE HOME THAT'S ON OUR PROPERTY NOW WHICH WAS A FAMILY HOME THAT MY GRANDPARENTS PASSED DOWN TO ME, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT HOME WITH A NEW MOBILE HOME. THE HOME THAT WE'RE IN NOW IS CURRENTLY IN BAD SHAPE AND HAS DIFFERENT ISSUES THROUGHOUT THAT ARE NOT REPAIRABLE, AND I'M JUST LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT HOME WITH THE NEW HOME FOR OUR FAMILY.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THERE ARE OTHER MOBILE HOMES IN

THE AREA, I ASSUME. >> YES, SIR.

>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION, AND WE NEED TO SPECIFY WHETHER IT WILL BE TRANSFERABLE OR NOT. DR. MCCORMICK.

>> MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE SUPMIN 2021-05 SUBJECT TO TEN CONDITIONS AND EIGHT FINDINGS OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY DR. MCCORMICK. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY MR. PETER.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU.

DR. MCCORMICK. ARE WE MAKING THIS TRANSFERABLE

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OR NOT TRANSFERABLE? >> TRANSFERABLE.

>> OKAY WITH YOU, MR. PETER? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU. SEEING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS, MS. ANDERSON. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> MOVING ON TO A REQUEST TO REZONE .48 ACRES, MR. HOLT, AND I'LL ASK IF THERE WAS ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS FOR THIS

PARTICULAR ITEM. >> YES, I ALSO DROVE BY THIS

PROPERTY TUESDAY. >> DID YOU A LOT OF DRIVING.

>> HI. I'M TINLTSDZ HOLT, 295 DEERFIELD DRIVE STRAWGHT 32086. I'LL HERE FOR THE REZONING OF 297 HENRY STREET. THAT'S AN OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. WHAT I'M SEEKING IS ZONING AS A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS. I'M SURROUNDED RIGHT NOW BY ALL KIND OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AND WE'RE DOING IT FOR -- MY WIFE IS A FINANCIAL PLANNER AND SHE HAS BEEN OFFERED A JOB WITH A MEDIATOR, AND WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HER OFFICE.

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>> ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT CON QULIEWRD

PRESENTATION, SIR? >> WELL, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING AROUND US IS COMMERCIAL. EVERYTHING FROM HEAVY COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET OVER HERE TO -- I'VE DONE IT NOW -- DOWN ON OLD MOULTRIE, ON SMOKERS, D I'M PRETTY MUCH SURROUND BIDE COMMERCIAL, AND TO KEEP THIS HER OFFICE WE WANTED TO DO IT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHY WE'RE

HERE. >> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? MS. PERKINS.

>> SO DO YOU LIVE ON THE PROPERTY OR NO?

>> I BEG YOUR PARDON? >> DO YOU LIVE ON THE PROPERTY?

>> DO I WHAT? >> DO YOU LIVE, RESIDE ON THE

PROPERTY? >> NO.

>> DOES YOUR WIFE? >> NO.

>> OKAY. >> WE OWN IT AND WE'RE GOING TO

USE IT AS HER OFFICE. >> OKAY.

SO IT COULD BE A HOME OCCUPATION THEN.

>> IT COULD BE. YES.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FRIEND THAT'S STAYING THERE TO JUST

SAFEGUARD THE PLACE. >> AND IS SHE -- YOU SAID NO TRAFFIC SO NO ONE IS GOING TO BE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE OFFICE? THERE WILL BE NO TRAFFIC AT ALL. THERE WON'T EVEN BE A PHONE LINE. IT WILL ABLE DONE ON CELL PHONES, WIRELESS. THERE WILL BE NO CARS, NO TRUCKS. NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

MAYBE I'LL PAINT THE PLACE BUT IT WON'T CHANGE.

>> MR. PIERRE. >> IF I LOOKED AT THE CORRECT PROPERTY, I THINK I SAW A FOR SALE SIGN.

IS THERE A FOR SALE SIGN ON THAT PROPERTY?

>> IT HAD IT FOR SALE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

I HAVE HAD NO OFFERS ON IT, NO REASONABLE OFFERS.

WE PULLED THE FOR SALE SIGN DOWN YESTERDAY.

>> OH, YOU TOOK IT DOWN YESTERDAY.

>> YEAH, WE TOOK THE SIGN DOWN. SO, NO, IT'S NOT FOR SALE NOW

NOWN==. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE AGENCY MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT. >> SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION. MS. PERKINS.

>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING 2021-13, 297 HEN ENTRY STREET, A "TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY .48 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL MOBILE HOME TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO ALLOW FOR A FINANCIAL PLANNING OFFICE SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THE 297 HEN ENTRY STREET BASED UPON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY MR. PETER.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S REGISTER THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. HOLT. THAT PASSES.

NOW, I'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND I'VE GOT CORRECT AN ERROR HERE.

I BELIEVE ON ITEMS 2 AND 3 I ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY PUBLIC

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YOU'RE GOOD OPEN ON ITEMS 4, 5 AND 6 I FAILED TO ASK ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 4, 5 OR 6? OKAY.

THANK GOODNESS. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ERROR.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8 AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR MS. SMITH. AND WE JUST GOT AGENCY MEMBERS WISH WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE JUST GOT A COPY OF AN EMAIL THAT CAME THAT THE NOONTIME TODAY ROUGHLY FROM A

RESIDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, BOARD, MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD ELLEN AVERY-SMITH ROGERS TOWN 100 WETSTONE PLACE. IF WE TODAY IS JOHN KIDNEYS FRE TWIN CREEKS ASSOCIATES WHO IS THE MASTER DEFERLT OF THE TWIN CREEKS PROJECT. BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANT TO PASS SOMETHING OUT TO YOU SO WE DON'T GET INTERRUPTED AND WE CAN CHAT ABOUT IT AS WE GO ALONG OKAY.

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WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS A MODIFICATION TO ONE OF THE TWO TWIN CREEKS DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACT.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY TWIN CREEKS DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES AND ALSO THE FALCON GROUP.

JUST GETTING YOU A LITTLE ORIENTATION, TWIN CREEKS IS LOCATED BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 210, WEST OF US-1 AND EAST OF I-95. THE NORTHERN PORTION IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS BEACH WALK, AND THE SOUTHERN PORTION IN THIS AREA IS GENERALLY JUST CALLED TWIN CREEKS, AND SO -- AND THEN THIS IS CALLED BEACON LAKE. THE PROPERTY HAS SEVERAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, INCLUDING MIXED USE DISTRICT IN THIS ACTIVITY CENTER AGAIN BEACH WALK NORTH OF COUNTY ROAD 210, AND THEN RESIDENTIAL B, AND A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTIAL AREA SOUTH OF 210, AND THEN ITALIANS TRANSITIONING TO RESIDENTIAL-A AS YOU GET DOWN INTO THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP.

THE ZONING, OF COURSE, IS PUD. THERE ARE TWO PUDS THAT ARE AFFECTED OR WITHIN TWIN CREEKS. AGAIN, THE ONE THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY SOUTH JACKSONVILLE IS CALLED NEW TWIN CREEKS PUD.

THE OTHER ONE IS CALLED THE TWIN CREEKS PUD.

BUT THEY'RE INTERTWINED, IF YOU WILL.

SO IN 2005 THIS DRI AND THE, I'LL CALL IT THE OVERALL PUD WAS APPROVED FOR APPROXIMATELY 3,00. THEN THE MARKET FELL OUT.

THINGS SAT DORMANT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

IN 2014 GOING INTO 2015, THE PROJECT WAS OWNED BY TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES AT THAT TIME, AND THEREFORE DIVIDED INTO TWO DIFFERENT DRIS AND PUDS. SO THE PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS JUST A PROJECT THAT WAS FORMERLY SOUTH JACKSONVILLE. NOW THE MASTER DEVELOPER BEING TWIN CREEKS DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES.

IN 2018 TWIN CREEKS DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES MODIFIED THE DRI TO INCLUDE THE SIX-LANING OF COUNTY ROAD 210 WITHIN THE DRI BOUND PARTNERSHIPS THAT SIX-LANING HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

IF YOU DRIVE ON 210,000, YOU SEE THAT PORTION THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED THAT IS BARRICADE OFF UNTIL THE OTHER ENDS ARE FIXED, IF YOU WILL, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES WITH RESPECT TO THE ROAD. THEY DEVELOPER HAS AGAIN CONSTRUCTED THAT SIX LANING WHICH IS CHECKING THE BOX ON THAT OBLIGATION WITHIN THE DRI FOUND BOUNDARIES.

THE COUNTY THEN HAS SOME RACHELLEING OBLIGATION WITH SPHROACT REMAINING FOUR-LANING AND SIX-LANING TO THE WEST OF THE PROJECT FOUND RIS. THE DEVELOPER HAS ALSO DEDICATED A PARK SITE AND THREE SCHOOL SITES, AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT'S ONE HIGH SCHOOL SITE ONE K-8 AND ONE BUS MAINTENANCE SITE, AND WE'RE GOWG TO TALK ABOUT THAT BUS MAINTENANCE SITE IN JUST A MINUTE. SO GIVING YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND AGAIN, HERE'S COUNTY ROAD 210.

THAT CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE PROJECT BOUNDARIES HAS BEEN COMPLETED. WE ARE GOING TO TALK TODAY ABOUT THIS SITE WHICH IS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING SITE.

I ALSO MENTIONED TO YOU THE HIGH SCHOOL SITE.

HERE'S THE PARK SITE. AND -- I'M SORRY.

THE PARK SITE AND THE K-8 SCHOOL SITE, THOSE ARE BOTH DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL BOARD RESPECTIVELY, AND THEN THE BUS MAINTENANCE SITE IS UP IN THIS AREA HERE.

THAT HAS BEEN CONVEYED TO THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

AND SO YOU SEE THE PROJECT AS IT'S BEING DEVELOPED, THE CRYSTAL LAGOON, OF COURSE, IS LOCATED IN THIS AREA WHICH IS WITHIN BEACH WALK. SO THIS DRI MODIFICATION KIND OF STARTS OUT, WE WENT FROM BEGINNING TO END IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER ORDER IF YOU WILL IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.

WE'RE REVISING THE LAND USE TOTALS TO CONVERT ABOUT 33,000 SQUARE FEETS OF OFFICE TO 80 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.

THAT CAN BE DONE AT A MATTER OF RIGHT BHAIDZ ON THE DRI CONVERSION TABLE. WE ARE UPDATING THE PROJECT FAINS BUILD-OUT AND TERMINATION DATE AGAIN BASED PO EMERGENCY GUBERNATORIAL DECLARATION PURSUANT TO SECTION 252.363 FLORIDA STATUTES. THAT IS A, I'M GOING TO CALL IT A MINISTERIAL CHANGE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

WE'RE REVISING GENERAL CONDITION 8 TO REFLECT CHANGES IN LAW WITH RESPECT TO DRI REPORTING PERIMETERS WE ARE KEEPING IN PLACE IF TRANSPORTATION MONITORING THAT WAS REQUIRED OF THE ORIGINAL DRI BECAUSE THAT HELPS THE COUNTY KEEP TRAFFIC COUNTS -- EXCUSE ME. SORRY.

GOT A LITTLE DRY-THROATED FOR A MINUTE.

SORRY. IT HELPS THE COUNTY WITH ITS INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC COUNTS IN THE AREA.

WITH RESPECT -- SO THE MATERIAL CHANGES START HERE.

SO WITH RESPECT TO SPECIAL CONDITION 27 RELATED TO THE

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THAT DETAIL IS SET FORTH IN THE -- I'M SORRY.

AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME UNDER THE HUD REGULATIONS, AND THAT DETAIL IS SET FORTH IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDET STARTS ON PAGE 27. AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO SPECIAL CONDITION 30 RELATED TO EDUCATION, THIS IS WHERE THE CORRECTION COMES IN. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH NICOLE COULD HAVEAGE AT THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE LIKE SAID EARLIER, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, ABOUT 10 ACRES LOCATED IN THIS AREA HAS ALREADY BEEN CONVEYED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THAT BUS MAINTENANCE SITE. WE HAD BEEN GOING ALONG WITH THE SPECIFIC CONFIGURATION TO ADD TO GIVE ADDITIONAL LAND TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT WE HAVEN'T REACHED A FINAL DEAL YET.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY ACRES IT'S GOING TO BE AND THUS WHAT PROPORTIONATE SHARE MITIGATION WILL BE OR SCHOOL IMPACT E. PACT FEE CREDIT WILL BE AVAILABLE, SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE, AND I JUST GAVE TO YOU THAT I'M GOING TO PUT ONE SCREEN JUST SO EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE IT AS WELL, SO WE'RE CHANGING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE THIS RED LINE, AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE CHANGING MAY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FINISHED. IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, JUST CHANGE THIS WORD TO "MID-20-2021," THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE APPLICANT AGREED TO THE APPLICANT MAKING AN ADDITIONAL LAND CONVEYANCE RELATED TO THE MAINTENANCE STORAGE FACILITY SITE AS DETAILED IN, AND WE'RE GOING TO REVISE "AND" TO BE A THIRD BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BOARD ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO BE THREE ARE THAT THAT'S A THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AGREEMENT SO WE'RE GOING TO STRIKE "AND" AND PUT "A THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE TWIN CREEKS SCHOOL SITING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD DATED SEPTEMBER 10, 2015, AND RECORDED IN OFFICIAL RECORDS BOOK 4205, PAGE 1814 1814 PUC RECORDS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY FLORIDA PARENTHESES THE SCHOOL AGREEMENT." WHICH IS A DEFINED TERM.

THEN IF YOU GO DOWN FARTHER INTO THE DOCUMENT ALSO ON THE SAME PAGE WE'RE AGAIN MAKING THE WORD "MAY" TO MID-2021 AND THEN STRIKING OUT THE NUMBER 2.78-ACRE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FINAL NUMBER.

AND THEN AGAIN STRIKING THAT NUMBER AGAIN AND SAYING THE DETAILS OF WHICH SHALL BE SET FORTH IN, AND THEN STRIKING "AND" AND PUTTING IN "A THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AGREEMENT." SO I WANTED SHOW THAT YOU LANGUAGE TODAY FOR THE RECORD AND ALSO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE CHANGE THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.

WE WILL CLEAN THE DOCUMENT UP AND MAKE SURE IT'S READY TO BE INCLUDED IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION STAFF REPORT.

AND DR. MCCORMICK, FUB WANT TO KNOW MER DETAIL ABOUT THAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IF YOU'D LIKE OKAY.

AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE POWERPOINT, AND JUST WRAPPING UP, THEN, ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ORDERS IS THEY HAVE PHASING TIMES, AND SO WE HAVE OR THE TWIN CREEKS DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES HAS TWO VERY EXCITING POSSIBILITIES FOR COMMERCIAL AND FLEX INDUSTRIAL USERS IN THE PROPERTY.

SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR THOSE USERS ARE IN PHASE 1 OF THE DRI. SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ARE IN PHASE 2 OF THE DRI. OBVIOUSLY THOSE PURCHASERS DO NOT WANT TO GET STOPPED AT THE END OF PHASE 1 IF CERTAINLY EVER CERTAIN OBLIGATIONS ARE NOT FULFILLED, SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS CHANGE THE LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO

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SO IF YOU LOOK AT -- I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE PAGE -- 29 OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, WE'RE SAYING NO LATER THAN JANUARY 1, 2022. THE APPLICANT WILL BOND AND COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FOUR-LIGHTED MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED TO THE COUNTY, AND SO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIELDS SHALL BE COMPLETED WITHIN ONER YOOF COMMENCEMENT AND THEN ALSO PROVIDING, AND IF YOU READ THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE GUBERNATORIAL EMERGENCY DECLARATION EXTENSIONS FOR DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER DATE. THIS LANGUAGE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IN OTHER DEVELOPMENT ORDERS RECENTLY, WHICH IS YOU CAN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS ANYMORE. IF YOU HAVE A REAL FORCE MAJEURE ISSUE LIKE THERE'S A HURRICANE THAT FLOODS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION SITE AND YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO YOUR CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S A REASON FOR DELAY, BUT BECAUSE A HURRICANE COMES THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST PART OF FLORIDA DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU GET AN EXTENSION IF IT DOESN'T MATERIALLY EFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE.

AGAIN, THE REASON IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, AGAIN THAT WILL BE NON-RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS GREAT, CAN FLOW THROUGH THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITHOUT ANY STOPPERS IN THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

SO WITH THAT, ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT TABLE. YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL OFFICE, NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY, AND THEN THE FLEX INDUSTRIAL SET FORTH ON THAT TABLE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL IN THIS DRI, AND SO THESE NEW PROJECTS WILL HELP INCREASE THE ON THE GROUND NON-RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE WIN CREEKS DRI. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF DID NOT OBJECT IN THEIR STAFF REPORT TO THIS DRI MODIFICATION, AND WE WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF IT WITH THE CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL LANGUAGE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION. SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER

QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE FOR THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THEN LET'S GO INTO PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.

IT'S DONNA HENRY. PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M DONNA HENRY.

MY ADDRESS IS 74 SILVER SAGE LANE IN CREEK SIDE, AND I'VE LIVED THERE FOR TWO YEARS, AND I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT A LAWYER, I'M A RETIRED TEACHER, A WIDOW, AND MY GREATEST ASSET IS MY HOME.

AND SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE. THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW ON THE CONNECTOR BETWEEN 210 AND PHILLIPS HIGHWAY IS INCREASING DAY BY DAY, AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT NOW.

WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE WITH THESE ADDITIONAL HOUSES IS A CONCERN.

ALSO SAFETY IS A CONCERN. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT DECREASING PROPERTY VALUES AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR PROPERTY IN THE CREEK SIDE, AND I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN CREEK SIDE, ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER RESIDENTS HERE TODAY BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.

I HAVE DONE RESEARCH ABOUT THIS REGARDING DIFFERENT AREAS AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IN SOME AREAS THESE WORKFORCE COMMUNITIES WORK, IN OTHERS THEY DECREASE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, OF THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS AROUND, AND THAT IS THE HUGEST CONCERN TO ME BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS MY GREATEST ASSET, AND I'M A WIDOW, AND I PROBABLY AM NOT -- I MIGHT BE THE ONLY WIDOW IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A YOUNG GROUP, BUT I STILL THINK PEOPLE ARE DEPENDING ON THEIR HOUSES FOR THEIR LARGEST ASSET AND THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN TO US.

ESPECIALLY SINCE THESE CAN POSSIBLY BE RENTED HOUSES.

AND SO THEN THE TRANSITION WOULD BE OVERTURNING, OVERTURNING, OVERTURNING, AND THAT IS A CONCERN TO ME.

AND IS THERE GOING TO BE FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDING REGARDING THE

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SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ON MY MIND.

I'M NOT A LAWYER SO I REALLY DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO TALK TODAY. I CAME PREPARED TO LISTEN AND GATHER INFORMATION. BUT I DO REPRESENT MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER SOME

REBUTTAL, MS. SMITH. >> YES, SIR.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THE UNITS THAT WE'RE ADDING ARE SIMPLY 80 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE BEING CONVERTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT UNDER THE DRI DEVELOPMENT ORDER.

WE ARE JUST NOTING ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE WERE MAKING TO THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, BUT LAND USE CONVERSIONS ARE PERMITTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT. I DO WANT TO PUT UP, AND THIS DOCUMENT THAT I HAVE IS A RED LINE THAT SHOWS ALL THE CHANGES TO THE APPROVED 2818 VERSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, SO I JUS.

AND I APOLOGIZE DID I NOT GET HER NAME BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WORKFORCE HOUSING HAS BEEN A REQUIREMENT OF THIS PROJECT SINCE 2005.

WE'RE NOT -- I MEAN, WORKFORCE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUIRED BY -- FOR A NUMBER OF DRIS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND THIS APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY WANTING TO BUILD THE WORKFORCE HOUSING HIMSELF. AND SO THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, I'M SHOWING YOU THIS ONLY SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE EXISTING APPROVED LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER SINCE 2005. IN RED AND BLURT PROPOSED CHANGES. SO AGAIN I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT YOU TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROPOSED FOR A WORKFORCE HOUSING SITE. THIS IS NOTHING NEW.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 16 YEARS. AND SO -- AND WE HAVE ADDED THAT THE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING BETWEEN $80,000 AND 120% OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY MEDIAN INCOME ACCORDING TO THE ANNUAL AMI ADJUSTMENTS FROM HUD, AND SO RIGHT NOW THE ANNUAL AMI ADJUSTMENTS FROM HUD ARE ABOUT $160,000 FOR A HOME PRICE, LIKE A SALE PRICE, AND ABOUT $1,200 FOR A TWO-BEDROOM APARTMENT UNIT RENTAL. SO JUST FOR THE RECORD IN CASE THE BOARD WANTED TO KNOW. AND WE CAN ANSWER WHATEVER -- EXCUSE ME -- WHATEVER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AFTER THIS.

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE JUST TO CLARIFY. THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE CHANGE IN THE DENSITY, DID YOU MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT FROM ONE DENSITY TO ANOTHER?

>> IT'S NET NEWAL CENTRAL. IT'S BASED ON LAND USE CALCULATION BASED ON TRAFFIC TRIPS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. >> MR. PIERRE.

>> THAT WAS MY COMMENT. I NOTICED -- RESIDENTS TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND FLOODING, SO I WANT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT, A SUPERB DEPARTMENT REVIEW OR

SOMEWHERE? >> IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY STAFF LOOKS AT, BUT I'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A CONVERSION MATRIX. SO YOU CAN SEE -- NOW, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY RUN THESE CALCULATIONS, BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE DRIS HAVE THESE WHAT ARE CALLED LAND USE EXCHANGE TABLES, AND SO YOU SEE THE CONVERSION FACTORS, AND IT'S INTENDED BECAUSE NOBODY -- DEVELOPMENTS OF REGIONAL IMPACT WERE INTENDED TO BE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS DEVELOPED OVER 20 AND 30 YEARS. SO THEY INCLUDED A LARGE NUMBER OF UNITS AND NON-RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO GUESS AT WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, MANY OF THEM INCLUDED THESE EXCHANGE TABLES, AND THEY'RE ALL BASED ON MAKING SURE THAT THE TRIP GENERATION FOR THE PROJECT REMAINS THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT THE USES ARE CONVERTED TO.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BASED ON THE TRAFFIC TRIPS THAT ARE IN THIS

TABLE. >> ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT 1234 1234? IF NOT WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR A MOTION.

MS. PERKINS. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF DRI MODIFICATION 2021-02 TWIN CREEKS DRI, BASED ON FIVE

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>> A FIRST BY MS. PERKINS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. MILLER. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, LET'S RECORD THE VOTE.

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SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR STAFF REPORTS.

ANYTHING FROM STAFF? >> MR. MATOVINA, I DID WANT TO

REPORT ON AN ITEM. >> OKAY.

>> THERE HAS BEEN A APPEAL FILED TO A PZA DECISION REGARDING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE TERRA HILL BARN.

THAT DECISION OF THE PZA WAS MADE JUNE 3RD OF THIS YEAR.

A TIMELY APPEAL WAS FILED. PURSUANT TO THE BOARD POLICY, THERE WILL BE -- THE PZA IS TO RECEIVE NOTICE OF THE APPEAL AND THE POLICY REQUESTS THE PRESENCE OF A BOARD MEMBER AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING TO CONSIDER THE APPEAL, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DECISION OF THE PZ A, A MEMBER WOULD BE THERE TO ANSWER THEM. THE BOARD MEETING IS SCHEDULED

FORE SEPTEMBER 21ST. >> SEPTEMBER 21ST.

OKAY. >> YES.

SO WE CAN COORDINATE THAT IF YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS WHO MIGHT BE

WILLING TO ATTEND. >> ALL RIGHT.

WHO IS WILLING TO ATTEND? I THINK I CAN GET IN IT IT.

HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO BE DONE BY NOON.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHERE THOSE NUMBERS FALL ON THE

AGENDA? >> THAT HASN'T BEEN SET.

THAT WON'T BE SET UNTIL ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING.

>> SO DOES THIS BOARD NEED TO VOTE TO APPOINT A PERSON TO GO?

>> I JUST WANTED TO RAITS HERE IN CASE YOU WANTED TO SKITS AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT AN RIEDZ ADVERTISED MEETING TO DO

SO. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? OR DOES ANYBODY ELSE FEEL ADAMANT ABOUT GOING? LET'S SEND MR. PIERRE.

[LAUGHTER] >> YOU KNOW, I -- I SAW THAT COMING, SO IN MY DEFENSE, IS THERE GOING TO BE A SUMMARY OR SOMETHING THAT I CAN REVIEW SO I CAN BE UP TO SPEED?

>> WERE YOU HERE? >> NO, I WAS NOT.

>> NO, MR. PIERRE WAS NOT APPOINTED.

>> I THINK WE'D BETTER SEND SOMEONE WHO WAS HERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I WAS JUST JOKING, SIR.

>> BUT I'LL SHOW UP ANYWAY. >> I DON'T MIND GOING IF THAT'S

WHAT THE WISHES OF THE BOARD IS. >> JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S CONSIDERED A DENOVE E HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING. THE APPLICANT BASICALLY GETS

ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE >> ALL RIGHT.

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