[1. Constitutional Officers’ Fiscal Year 2022 Budget Presentations - St. Johns County Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller & St. Johns County Supervisor of Elections. Presentation of the Constitutional Officer’s tentative budgets for Fiscal Year 2022. Under F.S. 129.03(2), on or before June 1 of each year, Constitutional Officers shall submit to the Board of County Commissioners (BCC) a tentative budget for their respective offices for the ensuing fiscal year. Since the Tax Collector is fee-based, it is not required for the Tax Collector's budget to be submitted to the BCC at this time. Each Constitutional Officer will make a brief oral presentation to the BCC relative to their respective tentative budget. The tentative presentation order will be: 1) Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller Brandon Patty; 2) Supervisor of Elections Vicky Oakes. The Sheriff and Property Appraiser will make their respective presentations to the BCC on June 15, 2021.]

PASSES 5-0. START WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

>> GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN, JESSE DONE OFFICER MANAGE BUDGET.

ASSOCIATED WITH BUDGET PROCESS, A REMINDER WE HAVE BEEN BUDGET PGUIDELINES EARLIER THIS YEAR I FEBRUARY.

GOT INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS MARCH THROUGH MAY.

WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST CONVERSATION.

WENT LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM 3 DAYS.

BUDGET REQUEST FOR FY 22. THIS POINT IN PROCESS RECEIPT CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER BUDGETS AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PRESENTATIONS BY TWO OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS TODAY.

SPECIFICALLY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS AS WELL AS CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURT COMP CONTROL.E WILL HAVE APPRAISER AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROVIDE THEIR PRESENTATION.

WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE FIRST HONORABLE CLERK OF COURT COMPTROLLER BRANDON PATTY.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

BEFORE WE GET TO THE BUDGET PAST SOME GOOD NEWS AND THANK YOU ALL COMMUNITY EFFORT THAT WE HAD THIS PAST YEAR GETTING ADDITIONAL COUNTY JUDGE IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

EXCITED TO KNOW CURRENTLY WAITING FOR GOVERNORS SIGNATURE WHICH WE ANTICIPATE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WHICH WILL BE ADDING COUNTY JUDGES TO THREE INSTEAD OF TWO.

FIRST JUDGE OF THE COUNTY SINCE THE MID-70S.

A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT. ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY, STAKEHOLDERS, COMMISSION CAME TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEED TO GET THROUGH.

FINGERS CROSSED WE GET THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AS WELL.

MOVING ON TO OUR BUDGET. AS YOU GUYS KNOW WE ARE FUNDED THROUGH THREE PRIMARY SOURCES. STATE DOLLARS BOND, ARTICLE V Ã COUNTY DOLLARS. THROUGH ÃNEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE COMBINED BUDGET WITH COMP CONTROL FUNCTIONS AS WELL AS MINUTES AND RECORDS WHAT IS SEEN REQUESTING INCREASE OF PERSONAL SERVICES BE ABLE TO HOLD THE LINE IS A DECREASE WITH OPERATING EXPENDITURES AND CAPITAL OUTLAY. ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS OR TO INCREASE OUR COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE STRATEGIC DEPTH AS WELL AS INSPECTOR GENERAL'S OFFICE.

INCREASE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S OFFICE NOT ONLY TO STAY ON TOP OF THE WORKLOAD, BUT AS WE SEEK ACCREDITATION BECOME 15 CLERK OFFICES INSPECTOR GENERAL'S ACCREDITED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.HE SUBSIDY BUDGET, INCREASE HERE AS WELL.

BUDGET USE PILOT MERELY TO BACKSTOP STATE BUDGET ANTICIPATING REMAINING FLAT OR INCREASING, HOWEVER THERE IS A CHANCE IT COULD BE CAUGHT AND THESE DOLLARS WILL HELP ENSURE MAINTAIN COURT OPERATIONS TO FULFILL OUR FUNCTIONS AND CRITICAL MISSION AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

THAT IS MY PRESENTATION PENDING ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

MR. PATTY I WOULD THANK YOU, TAKE A MOMENT.

YOUR TEAM OUTSTANDING JOB. YOU HAVE GREAT EMPLOYEES WORK HARD. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. WORK HARD TO BRING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO JUDICIARY. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU

DO. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

GLAD TO BE ON THE TEAM.

>>> NEXT UP WILL BE HONORABLE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, VICKY

OAKES. >> GOOD MORNING.

AS ALWAYS DO I PROVIDE YOU QUITE A DETAILED BUDGET PUBLICATION. FOR YOUR READING PLEASURE.

RIGHT DOWN TO ITEMIZE LINE ITEMS, FORMAT BUDGET REQUESTS.

BUT BEFORE I GET INTO MY REQUEST, I THINK I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT TAKE A MINUTE AND TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION.

BECAUSE I HAVE TO TELL YOU IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, WE HAD A

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TREMENDOUS ELECTION. IT WAS VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE HAD AN 85 PERCENT VOTER TURNOUT IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

THAT WAS THIRD HIGHEST IN THE STATE.

OUR VOTERS REALLY CAME OUT. AND IN GENERAL ELECTIONS, ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY IS USUALLY AMONG THE TOP FIVE FOR VOTER TURNOUT IN THE STATE. OUR VOTERS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE GAVE THEM.

85 PERCENT VOTER TURNOUT, YAY! VOTERS.

WHY SO SUCCESSFUL? WELL, IT WAS A VERY UNUSUAL TIME, AS YOU KNOW, WITH COVID AFFECTING ALL OF OUR LIVES.

SO MANY VOTERS REQUESTED REQUEST BY MAIL BALLOT.

REQUESTS PROCESSED, MAILED. WE MAILED ALMOST 75,000 VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS FOR THE ELECTION. NOT ALL THE VOTERS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT. MANY OF OUR VOTERS CHOSE MANY OTHER OPTIONS TO VOTE IN PERSON.

ONE REASON WE WERE SO SUCCESSFUL.

THERE WAS A TIME IN FLORIDA LAW THAT DID NOT ALLOW THE OPENING ACCOUNTING VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS UNTIL AFTER THE POLLS CLOSE AT 7:00 P.M.. I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS BACK IN 80S AND EARLY 90S IN FLORIDA LAW.HAT IS CHANGED.

CANVASSING BOARD MET A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL GRUELING SCHEDULE. COMMISSIONER SMITH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE CANVASSING BOARD.

WE HAVE A CANVASSING BOARD AND AN ALTERNATE THAT ALLOWS OUR SCHEDULES TO BE COVERED BY EITHER MEMBER.

SO THAT ELECTION NIGHT, WHEN IT CAME ALONG WE WERE OPENING ACCOUNTING VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS ALL ALONG THE WAY.

OUR VERY FIRST SESSION OF BALLOTS WE OPENED AND COUNTED OCTOBER 9. WE MET EVERY WEEK OPENING AND COUNTING BALLOTS AS THEY CAME ALONG SO THAT WHEN ELECTION NIGHT CAME EVERYTHING WAS COUNTED. EVERYTHING WAS READY TO GO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE HUNDRED THEY CAME IN LAST MINUTE. ANOTHER REASON IT WAS SUCCESSFUL -WAS BECAUSE OF OUR EARLY VOTING.

I WOULD JUST TELL YOU, IT WAS QUITE A STRETCH FOR MY STAFF AND I. WE NEVER HAD 10 VOTING LOCATIONS BEFORE, SEVEN WAS THE MOST WE HAVE HAD. WE DID NOT HAVE EQUIPMENT.

WE HAD TO GO OUT INTO ADVANCE PLANNING, BY ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT, HIRE AND TRAIN MORE POLL WORKERS.

OUR VOTERS SHOULD KNOW. I WANT TO THINK PERSONALLY ALL OF OUR POLL WORKERS, WE TRAINED AND DEPLOYED 500 OF THEM TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL ELECTION. OUR VOTERS REALLY, REALLY TOOK A GAUGE OF THAT. HE GAVE ME A HAPPY HEART.

ELECTION MORNING, WHEN THE POLLS OPENED, WE BEGAN WITH 71 PERCENT VOTER TURNOUT. WOW! THIS WAS A RECORD-SETTING ELECTION FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY.

RECORD-SETTING. I CHECK BACK INTO THE EARLY 70S AND RECORD-SETTING. STILL WE HAD OVER 8 POLLING PLACES THAT HEAD OVER 1000 VOTERS ON ELECTION DAY WENT AND CAST BALLOTS IN PERSON. WE HAD ONE THE MOST SMOOTH ELECTION DAYS WE HAVE HEAD IN YEARS.

WHY? BECAUSE 85 PERCENT OF THE VOTERS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE ELECTION CAST THEIR BALLOTS AHEAD OF ELECTION DAY. SO, WE HAD A VERY SMOOTH ELECTION DAY. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE ELECTED DURING THE TIME.

AND AS WE SAY, THE REST IS HISTORY.

SPEAKING OF HISTORY, I WANT TO TALK TO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY OFFICE AND THE HISTORY THERE.

WHEN I BEGAN WORKING IN 1988 AND ELECTIONS OFFICE, WE WERE IN THE OLD COURTHOUSE DOWNTOWN. SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, 49 KING STREET. THE OLD AGRICULTURAL OFFICE AT ONE TIME. WE SPENT MANY YEARS AS A STOREFRONT ALONG KING STREET. THEN EVENTUALLY AS OFFICES STARTED MOVING OUT HERE TO THE LOCATION, THE COURTHOUSE STARTED EMPTYING OUT. WE MOVED INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS NOW THE CASTLE MONACO HOTEL.

WE STAYED THERE UNTIL AFTER 1996 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

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CONCLUDED IN NOVEMBER 1996. IN DECEMBER WE MOVED TO OUR CURRENT LOCATION 25 YEARS AGO. THERE WERE 59,000 REGISTERED VOTERS IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY 25 YEARS AGO.

13 YEARS AGO, WE HAD SOME OFFICE SPACE ADDED TO THE FRONT OF THE OFFICE. AT THE TIME, WE DID NOT ADDING TO THE WAREHOUSE BECAUSE THERE JUST WAS NOT ANY WAY TO DO THAT AT THE TIME. SO TODAY, WHERE WE ARE IS 117,000 REGISTERED VOTERS. OUR COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW.

LAST YEAR ALONE, WE ADDED ALMOST 20,000 REGISTERED VOTERS IN ONE YEAR.TYPICAL IS AROUND 8-10,000 ANNUALLY.

BUT WITH OUR COUNTY'S GROWTH WE ARE LOOKING AHEAD TO 230 REGISTERED VOTERS FOR 2022 ELECTIONS.

ALL OF OUR FIGURES WILL BE BASED ON THAT IN MY BUDGET.

2024, OUR COUNTY, WE ARE LOOKING AT 250-20 60,000 REGISTERED VOTERS. AT MY CURRENT LOCATION, THE STAFF THAT I WILL EED TO HANDLE THESE VOTERS, NO PLACE FOR THEM TO PARK, OW PLACE FOR THEM TO SIT.

NOR NOW RESTROOM FACILITIES. I'VE OUTGROWN FACILITY.

I HAVE STARTED DISCUSSIONS ALREADY WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND COUNTY FACILITIES.

I'VE TALKED WITH A COUPLE OF YOU ABOUT THAT.

I WILL NEED YOUR HELP. I HAVE SHORT-TERM NEEDS OF WAREHOUSE SPACE. I HAVE LONG-TERM NEEDS.

TIME FOR SOME PLANNING, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? I DO NOT KNOW SOMEBODY SMARTER THAN ME IS GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT. I WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY AWARE OF IT.

AS WE KNOW, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING PROJECT WE ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH THEM.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS BOARD IS CONTINUING TALKS AND IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING AHEAD WITH OUR GOAL OF COMPLETING THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS THIS YEAR.

MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND SCHOOL BOARD IS LOOMING AHEAD. THEY ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH RFP.

ON PROCESS FOR THAT. SO, OUR GOAL IS TO ADOPT NEW BOARD LINES. BUT ONCE THAT IS DONE AT THE END OF THE YEAR ALL OF THE WORK THEN THAT TAKES PLACE WITH THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS HAPPENS AT MY OFFICE.

BECAUSE MY PRECINCT LINES ARE BASED ON YOUR BOARD LINES.

SO, ONCE THE NEW LINES ARE REDRAWN I WILL HAVE TO REDRAW MY PRECINCT LINES. AND FROM THE GROUND UP REDO VOTER REGISTRATION DATABASE. OUR TABULATION SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BASED ON DISTRICT AND PRECINCT LINES.

SO THAT YOU, THE VOTER, WHEN IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO VOTE WILL RECEIVE THE CORRECT BALLOT STYLE.

I HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. I HAVE A PRETTY TIGHT TIMELINE.

BUT WE ARE GOING FOR IT. I HAVE A GREAT STAFF.

AND HERE'S OUR TIMELINE. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AHEAD? WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD TO THIS BOARD ADOPTING NEW DISTRICT LINES.OUR STATE LEGISLATURE BY THE END OF THEIR SESSION, THEY MEET EARLY NEXT YEAR JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND MARCH TO ADOPT NEW LINES. BY THE TIME THE SESSION CLOSES IN MARCH WE WILL HAVE NEW CONGRESSIONAL FLORIDA SENATE, FLORIDA HOUSE LINES THAT WILL COME DOWN TO US AND GO INTO OUR DATABASE. I HAD TO FINALIZE NEW PRECINCT LINES. IDENTIFY NEW POLLING PLACES.

IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO NOTIFY ALL OF THE VOTERS OF THEIR NEW DISTRICTS, THEIR POLLING PLACES, ALL THAT COMES FROM MY OFFICE. BECAUSE WE ARE ALL THE POINT WHERE CANDIDATE QUALIFYING WILL OCCUR IN JUNE OF NEXT YEAR.

JUNE 13-17TH TO MAKE SURE THE PRIMARY ELECTION HAPPENS ON

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SCHEDULE. SO WE ARE AHEAD.

WE ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH THE SCHEDULE.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE BOARD AND SCHOOL BOARD DURING REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

SO, MOVING ON TO MY BUDGET. IN CURRENT BUDGET WE RECEIVED $290,000 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SPECIFICALLY CARES GRANT MONEY. CAME IN VERY HANDY.

EVERY BIT OF IT HAS BEEN SPENT. SOME OF THAT MONEY WAS SPENT WITH THE EXTRA POLLING PLACES OR EXTRA EARLY VOTING SITE TO PAY OUR POLL WORKERS. TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT FOR THOSE.

EVERY DOLLAR WAS SPENT. AND WAS VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

YOU WILL NOT FIND THAT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

BECAUSE THAT IS NONRECURRING FUND.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO THIS YEAR APPLY FOR SOME SECURITY GRANTS FROM THE STATE. I JUST LEARNED ACTUALLY TWO GRANTS AVAILABLE. I HAVE TWO BUDGETS.

ONE OF THEM FOR THE OFFICE SIDE.

ONE OF THEM FOR THE BUDGET ELECTION SIDE SPECIFICALLY.

MY OFFICE SITE IS UP JUST A LITTLE BIT WITH SALARIES.

WE ALWAYS BUDGET EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNTY DOES.

I HAVE A POSITION, MY IT POSITION THAT I HAVE A VACANCY.

I WILL BE INCREASING THE BASE SALARY FOR THAT SPECIFIC JOB DESCRIPTION IN ORDER TO ATTRACT THE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE OF ALL OF OUR CYBERSECURITY NOW AND OUR INCREASES ON IT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT IS BECOMING VERY TECHNICAL. THAT REQUIRES INCREASE IN SALARY. THAT IS WHY THAT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND IT STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT WE ARE MAKING.

THEN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND ARE IN OUR BOARD OR BUDGET NOW WHICH PROVIDES FOR SOME OF THE INCREASE.

OVERALL THIS IS WHAT MY INCREASE LOOKS LIKE.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY. GREAT.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. D. > WELL, VICKY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB YOU AND YOUR STAFF DO FOR US IN ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY. IT IS PRETTY REMARKABLE.

YOU MAY HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS WITH THE STATE GRANT, BUT LATELY IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO I'VE BEEN READING A LOT OF ARTICLES DEALING WITH THE LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY DEALING WITH SECURITY. VOTING SECURITY AND ISSUES THAT SEVERAL SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS AROUND THE STATE INCLUDING MY OLD FRIEND ALAN HAYES COMMENTED THAT THIS, NUMBER 1 COULD BE EXPENSIVE.UMBER 2, SOME OF THE ASPECTS PASTORING SESSION ARE NOT NEEDED. I GUESS THIS FALLS UNDER THE TITLE OF NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED BECAUSE HERE YOU ARE AS I RECALL LAST YEAR WE HAD JUST AN A+ ELECTION, NOT ONLY FOR TURNOUT, BUT SECURITY. IT WAS PERFECT IN MY OPINION.

YOU MAY HAVE TO ABSORB ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT I THINK MIGHT POSSIBLY BE NOT NEEDED, WE MAY BE GETTING A STATE GRANT TO COVER SECURITY COSTS. HAVE I SUMMARIZE WHERE WE ARE?

>> YES, SIR THAT IS CORRECT. >> ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD?

>> I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION, WHAT IS TIMELINE FOR TWO STATE

GRANTS? >> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BECOME AVAILABLE FOR US TO APPLY FOR UNTIL JULY 1.

>> OKAY. >> WHAT HAVE NO WORD HAS TO HAPPEN IS THE STATE HAS TO COME TO OUR OFFICE, SIT DOWN WITH US. GO WHERE WE ARE NOW.

TOGETHER WILL PUT OUR HEADS, HE WILL SAY OKAY THESE CERTAIN ITEMS WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY GRANT FUNDING.

>> TO KNOW WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS FOR TWO GRANTS?

>> I DO NOT. BECAUSE OUR TWO GRANTS AVAILABLE. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THOSE REALLY ARE. THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE

BOARD? >> I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR CHALLENGING LOGISTICALLY AND STAFF PUT ON ELECTION. VERY PROUD OF THE GREAT WORK YOUR TEAM IS DOING. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >>> WE WOULD TAKE PUBLIC, ITEM 1, INCLUDES BOTH CLERK OF COURTS BUDGET AND ALSO

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SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS. >> I THINK IT SHOULD BE

DISCUSSED SEPARATELY. >> IT IS ONE ITEM.

>> AND SIMON, I WANT TO THANK VICKY OAKES, I AGREE WITH VICE CHAIRMAN, FLAWLESS. ADDED PRECINCT, POLLING LOCATIONS, INCLUDING THE ONE AT ÃCALHOUN CENTER.

SINCE 2008, 15TH AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS.

I HAD TO FILE COMPLAINTS WITH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

SHE LISTENED. SHE COPED.

SHE IS FOR REAL. SHE DOES A GOOD JOB.

WE NEED TO THANK HER. THE FACT OF THE MATTER UNDER 129.03, ASKING YOU ALL FOR YEARS ASKING FIVE CONSTITUTIONAL BY MAY 1 TO DISCUSS IN BUDGET HEARING EACH YEAR. YOU ALSO NOT DONE THAT.

WHEN HE REFUSED TO DO IT, OUT OF FEAR OF DAVID SHORE.

HE IS GONE. COULD WE PLEASE ADOPT AN ORDINANCE JESSE WE HAVE DONE FOR YEARS HAVE BUDGETS PRESENTED JUST A MONTH EARLY? I KNOW VICKY CAN DO APPEARED ON INSPECTOR GENERAL BUDGET FOR THE CLERK OF COURTS, FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED INDEPENDENT INSPECTOR GENERAL.

FOR BACKGROUND. YEARS WHEN MICHAEL DAVID LONG CHECK ADMINISTRATOR FOR INSPECTOR GENERAL.

FIND A ONE FINE DAY INSPECTOR GENERAL I THINK HE WAS TRYING TO SHUT ME UP. NOW PRESS RELEASE.

I FIGURED OUT. THE PROBLEM IS ONE FTE.

THE FTE WAS THE SAME THAT HAS BEEN THE FRAUD, WASTE, AND ABUSE INVESTIGATOR. PROBLEM IS CLERK'S OFFICE NOT A GOOD PLACE TO PUT INSPECTOR GENERAL.

WHEN WE GET A COUNTY CHARTER AND WHEN WE RESTORE DEMOCRACY IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE SEVEN COMMISSIONERS FIVE FROM SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND TO A LARGE AS IT WAS UNTIL 1998 WHEN THE SEGREGATION DID NOT WANT A BLACK MAN SERVING ON COUNTY COMMISSION. THEY ATTACKED MOSES FLOYD WITH A STAB IN THE BACK. NOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS INDEPENDENT UNDER SUCH CHARTER.

RULY INDEPENDENT. WE DO NOT WANT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORTED TO A REPUBLICAN OR A FORMER REPUBLICAN IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND DUPED INTO THE JOB OF THE GOVERNOR IGNORING THE BEST RECOMMENDATIONS PEOPLE HAPPIER I APPRECIATE MR. PATTY WENT TO LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS.

I WANTED TO GO THERE ONCE. SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE ADVISED INSIDE GOING TO LAW SCHOOL GO TO LOC, I DID NOT TAKE IT IS VICE. BUT WE NEED AND EXPECT HER GENERAL REPORTS TO YOU ALL. HE WAS INDEPENDENT AND PROTECTIVE. JUST LIKE FEDERAL.

>> THEY CAN. >> TOM REYNOLDS, I WANT TO THANK MISS OAKES FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION, INCREDIBLE PRESENTATION. WHEN YOU ARE THE FACTS.

I'M NOT INTO PERSONALLY LONG-TERM ELECTED OFFICIALS, VICKY OAKES IS THE EXCEPTION. YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR THAT OFFICE IMPROVES. I'VE NOT BEEN TO THE OFFICE IN ABOUT A YEAR, BUT PRIOR TO THAT I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND ALWAYS GOT EXCELLENT SERVICE. AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF PATIENTS OVER THERE. THEY REALLY DO.

THEY TREAT PEOPLE REALLY WELL. DON'T HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE. THAT IS A GOOD THING.

YOU GO IN THAT BUILDING, NASA'S GOOD BUILDING TO GO INTO.

HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THAT CLERKS HAVE BEEN ABUSED AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR A LONG TIME. I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT CLERK EMPLOYEES ARE WAY UNDERPAID. IT IS SO UNDERPAID THAT SOMEONE CALLED MY ATTENTION TO IT AND I SAID, NO, THAT MUST BE OLD.

THAT'S A DEPARTMENT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO GET THE WAGES OF.

I JUST WANT TO THANK BRANDON PATTY ALSO.

BECAUSE HE MADE A BIG DECISION AND IT REALLY WAS A VERY GOOD DECISION WHEN HE DECIDED TO RESIGN AND LET SOMEONE ELSE HANDLE THE RTC. I THINK WAS SEPARATING CLERK OF COURTS OFFICE AND BY DOING THAT ADDED MORE PRESTIGE TO THAT OFFICE. THERE WAS A GREAT MOVE.

IF ANYTHING AS A CITIZEN I DO BESIDES ELECTRONIC MAIL TO HELP GET THE CLERK OF COURTS PAY UP I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO

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DO IT. I FIND IT ABUSIVE ACTUALLY TOWARD THE PEOPLE THERE. ALSO, IT DOES SOUND LIKE MISS OAKES IS GOING TO NEED A NEW BUILDING.

THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME OUT IN THE OFFICE, WE ARE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER. MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING ÃMAYBE THAT EVEN NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE WORKSHOP.

WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY BATHROOM, DON'T HAVE PARKING, I GO BY ALL THE TIME THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS HUGE NOW. MIGHT EVEN BE A POSSIBILITY GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT ALL OF THE PARKING ALL OVER THERE THERE ARE SO MANY CARS TAKING SPACE.

ANYWAYS, I WANT TO THANK MISS OAKES AND ALL THE PEOPLE WORK FOR HER AND ALL THE PEOPLE WORK FOR MR. PATTY THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB. I AM AN EXPERT ON SMALL GOVERNMENTS. BELIEVE ME I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF THESE PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA EVER KNEW HOW GREAT OUR PEOPLE ARE HERE THEY WOULD PROBABLY KIDNAP THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 1? PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 1. CHAIRMAN.

[2. Hurricanes Matthew and Irma emergency beach berm project update. Both Hurricane Matthew and Hurricane Irma inflicted severe impacts to St. Johns County resulting in a presidential declaration for federal assistance in categories A through G of FEMA’s Public Assistance Program. As part of the recovery process, the County submitted a category B emergency beach berm project for both storms. FEMA has provided a conditional approval with a completion date of 31 Dec 2021.]

>> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE, PUBLIC, CLOTHES.

THANK YOU BOTH YOU ALL FOR COMING IN.

>>> MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, MR. GIAMMANCO.

>> THANK YOU. JOE GIAMMANCO, UPDATE ON HURRICANE MATTHEW/IRMA JESSE. PDATE LAST TIME I CAME TO THE BOARD. WHEN IT CAME TO THE BOARD LAST TIME, LAST SUMMER, HURRICANE MATTHEW WAS APPROVED FOR AUTHORIZE US TO SEEK A CONTRACTOR FOR DESIGN AND CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT WITH ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DATE OF SUMMER 22. HOWEVER, BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, IRMA ÃLET ME GO BACK. IRMA WAS DENIED.

PUT IN A IN APPEAL FOR IRMA. ONDITIONAL APPROVAL SENT TO US BY FEMA. TWO CONDITIONS PLACED ON THERE, WHEN WE HAD A COMBINED MATTHEW AND IRMA INTO THE SAME PROJECT INTO AT THE SAME TIME. THEY ALSO REDID OUR TIME I HAVE PROJECT COMPLETED OF DECEMBER 31 THIS YEAR.

THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT SHRINKAGE OF TIME FOR US.

THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS WE ARE ANTICIPATING GOING THROUGH AS I SAID THROUGH THE SUMMER OF 22. WE DO A LOT OF THINGS CONSECUTIVELY. TWO THINGS AND GO TO THE NEXT STEP IN NEXT UP. HOWEVER WE HAD TO A LOT OF COMBINING AND OPERATIONS CONCURRENTLY IN ORDER TO HAVE SUCCESS FOR THIS PROJECT IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES.

WITH THAT IN MIND, A LOT OF THINGS TO ACCELERATE OUR TIMELINE FOR. THE FIRST THING I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE BASIC NUMBERS THAT FEMA HAS APPROVED OR CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. CAUTIONARY AGREEMENT.

EACH STORM IS DIFFERENT.TAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK FOR EACH STORM AND DIVIDE ALL THE INVOICES, ALL THE INVOICES.

ALTHOUGH THEY ARE TOGETHER, THEY ARE SEPARATE WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING. MATTHEW IS APPROVED 16.8 MILLION 75. 12.5 STATE, IRMA IS 16.3 FEMA FIVE STATE, FIVE COUNTY. TALK MORE ABOUT IRMA AND A COUPLE OF SLIDES. TWO THINGS I WOULD HIGHLIGHT.

FEMA PAYS ACTUAL COST WHEN IT COMES LARGE PRODUCTS.

THE THIRD BULLET RIGHT THERE, POLICIES ARE MANUAL.

BASICALLY THIS IS A LARGE PROJECT.

ANYTHING OVER THE 16.8 OR 16.3 MILLION IS ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. HOWEVER, THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS WE WOULD SEEK REIMBURSEMENT AS INVOICES COME IN. PROCESS TO BE PAID.

REACHED THE CAP OF 16.8 OR 16.3 WE BASICALLY HOLD THE REST OF INVOICES UNTIL CLOSE OUT. AT THAT POINT, RECONCILE ALL OF THE PROJECT. REMAINDER OF THE FUNDS AND RECEIVED THAT AT THAT TIME. THAT IS WHAT THAT FOURTH BULLET IS, WE HAVE TO CARRY POTENTIALLY SOME MONEY OVER THE 16.8 OR 16.3 DEPENDING ON THE STORM.

IT DEPENDS ON THAT PROJECT COST THAT MUCH.

TO GO TO THE FULL ELIGIBLE PROJECT.

WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE, ALTHOUGH THE ENTIRE COAST WAS IMPACTED, NOT EVERYWHERE ON THE COAST IS ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT FEMA REIMBURSEMENT, FUNDING LAST RESORT.

THIS IS EMERGENCY BEACH BERM PROJECT, NOT A HUGE PILE OF

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SAND. BEACH BERM.

AREAS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR STATE LOCATIONS, FEDERAL LOCATIONS.

AREAS THAT ALREADY HAVE FUNDING IN PLACE.

PROJECT IN PLACE. OR HAVE THAT FUNDING FOR NEXT PHASE FOR LARGER PROJECT. FEMA TEAMS IS DUPLICATION OF BENEFITS. NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY FUNDING IN SAME AREA. THAT IS CURRENT BASED ON CRITERIA. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED A LOT. I KNOW THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT IN THE BEGINNING. I GO BACK WE DO THINGS VERY QUICKLY. WE DID NOT HAVE THESE CROSS-SECTIONS WITH DRAWINGS THE PUBLIC WITH TEMPORARY EASEMENTS. TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. WHAT THE QUESTIONS WE GET A LOT, WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE? WE WANT TO SHOW THESE SECTIONS ARE.WO EXTREMES WHICH ARE GOING TO SEE IN PEOPLE'S HOMES. MAJORITY OF FOLKS WILL SEE SOMETHING HERE. LOOK AT THE TOP SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE BEACH AS WE GO THROUGH TO THE LIGHTER YELLOW, THAT IS THE ACTUAL NEW DUNE. LIGHTER YELLOW GOING TO BE PLACED AGAINST THE EXISTING DUNE.

NOT GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN EXISTING DUNE OR ANY LOCATION.

BASICALLY PUSHING THE SAND UP TO THE EXISTING DUNE AND REPLACING OR ADDING PLANTING TO APPEAR THE INTENT IS TO NOT TO COVER THE DUNE. NOT GET RID OF EXISTING PLANTING. PUSH UP TO AND PROVIDE STABILITY AND ADD MORE PLANTING TO IT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTH PICTURE HERE, IT IS A LONGER DUNE. AGAIN, NOT GOING ABOVE THE EXISTING GRADE. IF YOU'RE SITTING ON YOUR FRONT OR BACK PORCH, LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, YOU'LL STILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE OCEAN. NOT CREATING NEWER DUNE OVER YOUR VIEW. HOWEVER, YOU CAN SEE A LONGER, FLATTER PART AT THE TOP. WE WILL PLANT BASICALLY OUT TO THE TOP OF THAT DEAL. THERE IS A PLANTING DESIGN IS STILL KIND OF BEING FINALIZED. THERE COULD BE SOME VARIATION OF PLANTING ON TOP OF THAT. AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO COVER UP EXISTING DUNE OR EXISTING PLANTING TO PLANT NEW PLANTINGS. TRY TO PROVE THAT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW PEOPLE NOW.

WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CALLS. PEOPLE CAN CALL US AND WE'LL GO THROUGH AND TRY TO GET TO THEIR AREA AND TRY TO SHOW THEM SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THIS IS RELATIVELY NEW AS WE HAVE IT. 60 PERCENT PLANS, IF YOU ARE AN ENGINEER YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. F YOU'RE NOT AN ENGINEER, DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. THEY ARE COMPRESSED, BIG SLOPE IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. NOT JUST THE WAY IT IS.T IS WAY HOW IT IS. WE DEVELOP THESE.

MAKE IT MORE TO SCALE IF YOU WILL.

AGAIN, I GO BACK 2-TIME. HAD TO DO THINGS RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

IN ORDER FOR US TO PROVIDE MOST INFORMATION THAT WE CAN TO MAKE THE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD. WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE WILL OF THE RESIDENTS WERE. AGAIN, SEND OUT TEMPORARY, VOLUNTARY EASEMENT. WISH WE HAD A LOT MORE INFORMATION IN THERE AT THE TIME.

WE JUST DID NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION.

WE HAD TO PUT WHAT WE HAD OUT THERE.

780 RESIDENTS READ IT MAILTO. A LETTER GENERAL IN NATURE, THIS IS A FEMA PROJECT. THE FEMA LOCATION THAT DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO THE RESIDENCE. TEMPORARY EASEMENT.F YOU HAD QUESTIONS TO CONTACT US. WHAT WE DID, WE SET UP A DEDICATED WEBSITE AND PHONE LINE.

AND EMAIL ADDRESS SO ANYBODY CAN CALL US WE COULD WALK THEM THROUGH WHAT WE KNEW AT THE TIME.

AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO CALL WE UPDATE INFORMATION.

ONE THING WE DID NOT REALIZE QUICKLY, CONTRACTOR SET OUT EASEMENTS, TAKING LONGER TO GET TO RESIDENTS THAN ANTICIPATED.

ONCE WE SAW THAT, WE SENT OUT A SECOND LETTER EXTENDING THE DEADLINE FOR ANOTHER MONTH BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT PEOPLE TO BE RUSHED OR PRESSURED SEEING SOMETHING THEY DID NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND SO THAT WE ADDED THE EXTRA TIME.

AGAIN, DIDN'T HAVE A LOT MORE TIME HERE CUT OFF SOME POINT.

I WILL HAVE UPDATED NUMBERS ONLY GET TO THAT SLIDE.

I WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE. SO THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT KIND OF GOES OVER THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE PROJECT.

GET TO THE SLIDE TO PROVIDE THE UPDATED NUMBERS.

EACH SECTION IS BROKEN UP TO THE SECTIONS.

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PROCUREMENT HAVE BROKEN OUT LIKE THIS.

FOR CERTAIN SECTION DID NOT MOVE FORWARD FOR SOME REASON HAD ALTERED THESE WERE EASY NATURAL BREAKING POINTS WE CAN CHANGE THINGS AROUND. MORE OF A TECHNICAL TERM, FOR ANYBODY LISTENING, THE ENTIRE COAST IS BROKEN UP FROM ONE ALL WAY DOWN TO SOUTHERN BORDER. EACH IS A THOUSAND FEET.

IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. EASEMENTS AS OF YESTERDAY, YESTERDAY, THE ONLY CHANGES REALLY, PONTE VERDE BEACH, 74 PERCENT. PONTE VEDRA BEACH II, 24 PERCENT. SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH 67 PERCENT. BUTLER 31.

CRESCENT 37. EVERYTHING ELSE STAYED THE SAME. TOTAL COST.

WANT TO SHOW THE TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER.

BASED ON THAT COLUMN WHERE IT IS NOT TO EXCEED PER SEC DOHERTY SECTION. IF EVERYBODY PARTICIPATED IN THIS SECTION, ESTIMATE COST. ALSO UNDERSTAND LESS EASEMENTS MEAN BASICALLY REDUCE COST BECAUSE WE HAVE A BASED ON SAND. LESS SAND WE USE, OBVIOUSLY COST COMES DOWN. IF WE REMAIN AT 73 OR 74 PERCENT AT PONTE BEACH I, REDUCE THAT DELTA DOWN.

THE LAST COLUMN I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS BASICALLY NOT TO EXCEED COUNTY SHARE. SECOND SIDE SPLITS FOR FEMA, A LOT OF CALCULATIONS. I WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW AGGREGATE OF WHAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

IF THE COUNTY MOVES FURTHER PROJECT.

EACH ONE OF THOSE NUMBERS BASED ON THOSE CALCULATIONS.

NOT AS SIMPLE 90/10 SPLIT. SHOW THOSE NUMBERS ONE OF THE NUMBERS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE, IF YOU LOOK DOWN NOT TO EXCEED COUNTY, $2.4 MILLION COSTS.

ONE OF THE MEETINGS I CAME IN IN MAY OF LAST YEAR I TALKED ABOUT CO PLANTINGS, THROUGH FEMA NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. SHOULD A PLANTINGS ON DUNES FOR THE BEST SUCCESS RATE FOR IT. BACK THEN EXPLAINED TO THE BOARD THERE IS A COST GOING TO BE FOR NON- REIMBURSABLE.

WE TALKED WITH FEMA. THERE IS A PROVISION IN THEIR POLICY, IF PLANTINGS REQUIRED BY ÃWE DON'T HAVE THE PERMIT YET TO GET TELL YOU THEY ARE IN THERE.

WORKING WITH PERMIT AGENCY. HE PERMIT WILL SAY PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED. HOWEVER I DO NOT HAVE IN HAND I DID NOT WANT TO SHOW THE BOARD WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER WOULD BE.

IF THAT COMES BACK AND THE PERMIT IS BEING TOLD IS IS GOING TO BE THAT IT IS REQUIRED, THE NUMBER SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.LIGIBLE FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT AT THE BASE COST WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

THAT NUMBER WOULD BE REDUCED PROBABLY SHY OF TOO MANY DOLLARS COMING OFF OF THAT NUMBER.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT IRMA FUNDING. TATE AFTER IRMA HAD A STATE FUND FOR THE ENTIRE STATE FOR BEACH FEMA MATCHED PROJECT.

THEY HAD LIKE $13 MILLION. WE SOUGHT REIMBURSEMENT OR SOME OF THAT MONEY.HAT MONEY CAME BACK FORT ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AS THE BOTTOM BULLET FOR $879,000. WHAT THAT MEANS, COUNTY SHARE OR THE FIVE PERCENT FOR IRMA, YOU SET $879,000 TO PAY THAT MATCHED PORTION. THAT IS $6.6 MILLION.

IT IS THE HIGHER END OF IT THAT COULD COME DOWN.

879,000 WHEN WE SEEK REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE STATE. WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE THE AGREEMENTS FOR, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO GO SEEK AGAIN. SOMETHING WE WOULD BRING TO THE BOARD AND GO FORWARD WITH THAT FUNDING.

ALL RIGHT, GETTING INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF THE PROJECT IS SO. WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS A TRUCK CALL PROJECT. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN A TRUCK CALL PROJECT. THE BEGINNING OF THIS 2017.

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THE REASON FOR IT BEING A TRUCK HULL PROJECT, TOTAL AREA OF BEACH LOCATIONS NOT FEASIBLE FOR A DREDGE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE PIPE FAST ENOUGH TO PUT THE AMOUNT OF SAND IN.

TWO, COST PROHIBITIVE TO DO THAT.

ANOTHER REASON WHY TRUCKING THE SAND IN IS THE OPTION WE HAD TO GO WITH. ALSO IN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT THAT FEMA PAID FOR IS THE TRUCKING.

WE GOT THE APPROVAL THROUGH THEM WAS A TRUCK HULL PROJECT.

IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS SAND HULL TRUCK PROJECT, WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR WE WILL HAVE TRUCKS PICKING UP SAND AT THE UPLAND SOURCE AROUND 4:00 IN THE MORNING.

DRIVING TO INTERMEDIATE STAGING AREAS.

I WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE LIKE IN A SECOND.

BASICALLY BRING THE TRUCKS CLOSER TO THE BEACH, STAGE THEM THERE, THEN HAVING OPERATIONS ON THE BEACH BETWEEN 7:00-6:00 P.M. SIX DAYS A WEEK TO PROVIDE THE TRUCKS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INCONVENIENCE FOR SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. IS GOING TO BE SEVERAL HUNDRED TRUCKS A DAY DROPPING SAND ON THE BEACH.

NOT JUST A COUPLE OF TRUCKS. SEVERAL HUNDRED A DAY FOR A MONTH OR 2 DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

BUT IT IS A LOT OF SAND, A LOT OF TRUCKS BEING MOVED.O THE INTERMEDIATE STAGING SIDES THERE IS TWO.

ONE IN THE NORTH AND ONE IN THE SOUTH.

FEEDING SEVERAL ACCESS POINTS. I WILL TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS IN THE SECOND. THE IDEAS OF THE STAGE THERE, THEY RELEASE THEM FROM THERE TO THE LOCATION SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE LINES OF TRUCKS SITTING ON EITHER ONE COUNTY ROAD AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THERE WILL BE IMPACTS. PROPOSED ACCESS POINTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED AND WE WENT AND SAW IT THE CONTRACT TO DO WAS THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THERE IS LIMITED ACCESS POINTS IN THE NORTH. AND WE WANTED THEM TO PROVIDE US ACCESS PROPOSAL BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE GONE OUT AND DONE. WORKING WITH PRIVATE RESIDENTS IN THE NORTH TO SECURE LOCATIONS TO HAVE ACCESS POINTS.HESE ARE ACCESS POINTS.

WE HAVE HAD SOME RESIDENTS CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS POINTS.

SPECIFICALLY VIBRATIONS AND UP AND DOWN THE BEACH.E UNDERSTAND WORKING WITH THE PCONTRACTOR THERE THEY ARE GOIN TO PROVIDE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND THEY HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR MITIGATING ANY VIBRATIONS THAT THEY CAN.

AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF TRUCKS DRIVING UP AND DOWN THE BEACH. EVEN IF WE DID A DREDGE PROJECT, THERE WOULD BE HEAVY EQUIPMENT ON THE BEACH MOVING SAND UP AND DOWN AND PLACING IT.

NOT 500-600 TRUCKS A DAY, BUT THIS IS THE PROPOSED ACCESS PLAN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING. THE SAND THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PLACE ON THE BEACH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NATIVE BEACH. THE DUNE SLOPES AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE EARLIER SLIDE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY, I GUESS, SLOPES PEOPLE CAN'T WALK UP AND DOWN.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS, THEY LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE ACTUAL PLANS. THE VEGETATION WILL BE NATIVE.

VEGETATION THERE FOR TWO PURPOSES.

ONE FOR STABILITY, ALSO TO PROMOTE WILDLIFE HABITAT.

WE ARE AND WILL BE WORKING WITH FTP, FW SEE THE ENVIRONMENTAL WHATEVER THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THOSE REQUIREMENTS.E WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT. OWEVER, MIGHT BE IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS PROJECT.

HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING REQUIRED OF ANY PERMIT WE'RE GOING TO GET. LIKE I SAID EARLIER I DO NOT HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT YET. WE ANTICIPATE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT COMING. WE ARE IN COMMIT CASES WITH ALL THE AGENCIES. THEY ARE WORKING WITH US TO ALLOW US TO DO THIS WORK. HOWEVER, TURTLE SEASON AS AN IMPACT. AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO POTENTIALLY START THE PROJECT FOR SAND PLACEMENT MAYBE AFTER THE PEAK SEASON OF TURTLE SEASON.

HOWEVER, I DO NOT HAVE THAT TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT DATE IS. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR FW CTO GIVE US. MAYBE LATE SUMMER-EARLY FALL CONDUCTING THE PROJECT. HOWEVER, THAT DOES PUT A

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SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON US FOR GETTING PROJECT COMPLETED DECEMBER 31. THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR US.

TRYING TO WORK THROUGH TO MITIGATE THOSE HURDLES.

COMMUNITY CONSIDERATIONS, AGAIN, I WANTED TO STRESS THE COMMUNITY THAT ALTHOUGH THE PROJECT IS PROVIDING SAND UP AND DOWN THE BEACH THERE IS GOING TO BE IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S GOING TO BE PLACES WHERE THE BEACHES ARE CLOSED WHERE WE WILL HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT WORKING. WE DON'T WANT TO INTERMIX HEAVY EQUIPMENT OF PEOPLE. DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE THOSE PROBLEMS OR ISSUES.OT LOOKING AT CLOSING ENTIRE BEACH AT ANY GIVEN TIME. HOWEVER THERE WILL BE SECTIONS OF THE BEACH THAT WILL NEED TO BE TEMPORARY CLOSED AS WE MOVE VEHICLES ON AND OFF THE BEACH AND SHAPE AREAS.

TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE OR 2. SOME OF THE PUBLIC ACCESS POINTS WILL BE CLOSED TO FACILITATE THIS.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CLOSE ENTIRE ALL ACCESS POINTS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. ONE-2 AREAS TO FACILITATE PROJECT AT A TIME. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO EVERY ENTITY WE COULD THINK OF THAT HAS A STAKE IN THE BEACH.

WE HAVE TALKED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE TALKED TO FIRE AND RESCUE.

WE'LL TALK TO OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A BIG MEETING IN HERE WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS TRYING TO BRAINSTORM SUE GANDY TO MITIGATE IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

SO EVERYBODY IS PROVIDING INFORMATION AND INPUT.

WE ARE CONFIDENT WE ARE LEAST MAKING SURE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE NOTIFIED ARE BEING NOTIFIED WILL HELP MITIGATE THOSE PROBLEMS. SO THIS IS A GOOD SLIDE TO SHOW. THE CHART TO THE RIGHT THERE DAYS PER REACH, THIS IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO SHOW THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD. THIS IS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THE NUMBER OF DAYS IN EACH SECTION ONCE WE GET A START DATE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A START DATE YET, BUT FOR EXAMPLE POTBURY ROAD I, BASED ON 100 PERCENT ALL, DEPENDING ON THE EASEMENT SIDE OR RESIDENCE. I WOULD NOT EXPECT TO SEE A HUGE DECREASE IF WE HAD 30 PERCENT.

DEPENDS ON WHERE SAND PLACEMENT IS AND UP AND DOWN ON THE BEACH. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING. ALSO ANTICIPATING BETWEEN 1520 500 FEET OF THE BEACH AT ANY GIVEN TIME TO BE CLOSE.

THAT IS BASICALLY, THINK OF IT AS PREGAME, AREA YOU ARE GOING TO BE WORKING. WORKING IN A CERTAIN AREA.

YOU FIGURE THAT MODEL AS YOU GO DOWN THE BEACH OR WHERE YOU GOING TO BE WORKING. WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE A DREDGE PROJECT. A PIPE RUNNING IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE FOR WHATEVER AMOUNT OF TIME.

WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE BEING IN FRONT OF ANYONE'S HOUSE MORE THAN THREE DAYS. IF YOU'RE AT THE END OF THE PROJECT AREA, YOU ARE PROBABLY IMPACTED VERY LITTLE.

IF YOU'RE NEXT TO AN ACCESS POINT, YOU WILL BE IMPACTED DURING THAT WHOLE TIME. VEHICLES DRIVING BACK AND FORTH. WE ARE ANTICIPATING MOVING IN SECTIONS OF THE BEACH NO MORE THAN THREE DAYS IN FRONT OF ANYBODY'S HOUSE.E COULD HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS BEING WORKED 1-2 OR 2-3, I DON'T THINK MORE THAN THAT CURRENT RESOURCE PROHIBITED ON THAT. SO, A QUICK SUMMARY.

WE ARE WORKING WITH FEMA. WE DO HAVE DECEMBER 31 DEADLINE. WE HAVE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION ALREADY THROUGH FEMA TO LET US COMPLETE THIS PROJECT OUTSIDE OF TURTLE SEASON INTO DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE NEXT YEAR'S TURTLE SEASON. WE RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM DEP, FWC ALREADY. WE HAVE NOT REACH OUT TO ELECTED BODY YET FOR THAT. HOWEVER, REACH OUT TO AGENCIES WE TALK TO. FEMA HAS BEEN RECEPTIVE TO ASKING RECEIVING THAT EXTENSION.

HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FEMA THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

NOTHING WORKS VERY FAST. WE ARE ON THE PATH WE HAVE TO COMPLETE BY DECEMBER 31, THAT IS WHAT I KNOW RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT EXTENSION.

WE ARE WORKING HIGHEST LEVELS AT LEAST FROM WHAT I SEE IS FEMA. FEMA IS TALKING TO DEP AND DEM, WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE SOME TYPE OF SAY IN THIS. BUT OUR NEST DOHERTY NEXT STEP MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD TO BE TO ASK FOR OFFICIAL HELP.

PERMITS, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON CONSULTATION WITH ALL THE

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AGENCIES. NOBODY IS TELLING US KNOW, THEY ARE SAYING YOU HAVE CONDITIONS AND YOU HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE CONDITIONS. SO WE SHOULD GET THOSE CONDITIONS SOMETIME NEXT 30-60 DAYS.

WE KNOW NOT IN FAVOR WORKING DURING PEAK TURTLE SEASON.

MIGRATORY BIRDS AND OTHER SPECIES, TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT. WORKING THROUGH THOSE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WANTED TO STRESS TO THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE DO HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION.

ALTHOUGH IN THE EASEMENTS, WE DO HAVE A DEDICATED WEBSITE WE ARE PROVIDING INFORMATION AS WE GET IT SO WE'RE NOT HOLDING ANYTHING BACK. PLANS ARE NOW ON THE WEBSITE.

LTHOUGH IF YOU'RE NOT AN ENGINEER I WILL CAVEAT NOT EASY TO UNDERSTAND. CALL US AND WE ARE HAPPY TO WALK INTO THAT PROCESS. WE HAVE AN EMAIL AND PHONE MIGHT DEDICATED JUST FOR THIS PROJECT SO PEOPLE CAN CALL US AND HAVE SOMEBODY TO TALK TO. WE CAN WALK THROUGH THIS AS WE GO. BUT THAT IS MY VISITATION AND I WILL BE STANDING BY FOR QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU MR. GIAMMANCO, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> JOE, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THAT FIRST NUMBER YOU PUT UP IN YOUR EARLY PRESENTATION, 780 PROPERTIES ON THE SURFACE SEEMS LIKE A VERY LOW NUMBER. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I GUESS, THAT EXCLUDES SAINT AUGUSTINE BEACH RESTORATION PROJECT, READING NOURISHMENT PROJECT.

>> CORRECT. >> EXCLUDES ÃFEDERAL PROJECT.

>> CORRECT. >> WHAT ABOUT ONE-TIME

PLACEMENT REPLACEMENT? >> EXCLUDED JUST TO THE NORTH

OF THAT. >> FOR THOSE WONDERING A SMALL NUMBER, A GOOD PORTION, AS YOU EXPLAINED EARLY ON IS EXEMPT BECAUSE OR NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED BY FEDERAL OR STATE PROJECTS.

>> CORRECT. YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR.

>> THAT IS NUMBER 1. I HAVE HEARD I DON'T KNOW IF MR.

WALDRON WAS RESPONDED SOME POINT, ÃLAST WEEK.>> YES, SIR WE DID. LET'S.

>> LET'S TAKE THESE ACTIONS. OBVIOUS TO ME NEED TO GO FORWARD ON PONTE VERDE BEACH I AND II.

HOMEOWNERS AND BEACHES, NO-BRAINER.

TALK ABOUT BUTLER AND CHRIS APPEARED WITH BUTLER BEACH AND CRESCENT BEACH YOU SAID THE NUMBER OF EASEMENTS 37 PERCENT

PARTICIPATION. >> YES, SIR.

>> I GOT TO TELL YOU, THAT DOES NOT REALLY LIGHT ME UP TO SPEND $14 MILLION WHEN THE NUMBER OF ALSO CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED TO ME INDIVIDUALLY FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS OF ÃOR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT THE FACT THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE SPECIFICALLY TO SEE TURTLE NESTING SEASON. I AM JUST SPEAKING TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE WE SHOULD GO FORWARD AND SPEND ANYMORE TIME OR EXPENSE ON THOSE PORTIONS OF THIS OVERALL PROJECT OTHER THAN PONTE VEDRA I AND NUMBER AND II. UNLESS YOU WANT TO INCLUDE OTHER SECTIONS. I WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE LAST SLIDE YOU PUT UP A VOT CONTACT INFORMATION. YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT AS WE GO FORWARD, ASSUME GO FORWARD WITH PONTE VEDRA I AND II, ANY MEETINGS IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO DISCUSS THIS. I'VE HAD SEVERAL CALLS AND EMAILS ASKING ABOUT QUESTIONS YET TO BE ANSWERED BUT, YOU KNOW, WATCHES TODAY, MOST QUESTIONS WOULD BE ANSWERED.

MAYBE THEY ARE WORKING AND NOT ABLE TO WATCH, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SCHEDULED?> YES, SIR. THE IDEA, SHORT, TIME OR TABLE DO THAT IN THE BEGINNING. THE INTENT AS IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD IN A CERTAIN AREA, DO A LITTLE MORE OUTREACH TO THOSE AREAS TO EXPLAIN PROJECTS.

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WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CURRENTLY PLANNED AND LESS SOMEONE HAS REQUESTED. WE HAVE MET WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING CURRENTLY PLANNED UNLESS THE BOARD CHOOSES TO DO CERTAIN AREAS.

>> ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO RESPOND FIRST SUGGESTION OR DO

YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT? >> NO, SIR. TALKED QUITE EXTENSIVELY WITH OUR COASTAL ENGINEERS, THE CONTRACTOR.

A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE UNDERSTANDING THIS TYPE OF WORK. VERY DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH SPECIFIC LINE IN THE SAND IF YOU WILL, WHERE WE GO OR WHAT WE DON'T DO. OUR STAFF IS VERY CONFIDENT SUGGESTING ANYTHING UNDER 50 PERCENT OF EASEMENTS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH.

ABOVE 50 PERCENT I THINK IT GOES BACK TO A POLICY DECISION AND WHERE WE ACTUALLY GO FOR THAT.

I THINK A CLEAR LINE 50 PERCENT UNDER IS NOT COULD BE

RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF. >> THANK YOU.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> THANK YOU COMMISSION.

GO TO COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST NEXT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU MR. GIAMMANCO, FOR THE PRESENTATION. A LOT OF INFORMATION GO TO DOVER THROUGH. VERY HELPFUL.

THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY, WHY THEY'RE NOT ENTHUSIASTIC

HAVE YOU GOT FEEDBACK? >> A COUPLE OF HOMEOWNERS AND PROPERTY ASSOCIATIONS WE MET DOWN THERE TO BE FRANK, LOOKS DIFFERENT. IT REALLY DOES LOOK DIFFERENT.

IF YOU GO FROM NORTH TO THE SOUTH, NORTH HOMES CLOSER TO THE WATER. ERODED AREAS.

PLACES WHERE THE HOMES WERE THREATENED TO FALL IN THE OCEAN BASED AFTER THE TWO STORMS. CRESCENT AND A SUMMER BEACH, SOME AREAS THAT LOOK LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE A WIDER BEACH, LONGER DUNE SYSTEM.OUSES SET BACK MORE WEST THAN THEY ARE TO THE EAST AND NORTH. I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING FROM THE RESIDENCE DOWN THERE THAT THEY ARE IN BETTER SHAPE.

HOWEVER SOME OF THE SCIENCES, YOU KNOW, CONTRADICTED TO WHAT IS BEING SEEN DOWN THERE. BUT THEY DO HAVE LONGER IN CERTAIN AREAS LONGER BEACH AREA THAN THEY DO IN THE NORTH.

>> OKAY. IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE TIME TO GET THIS BERM COMPLETED.

WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ASCENSION? I HEAR FROM SEVERAL PARTIES WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED AN EXTENSION. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES IN THE

PROCESS OF GETTING EXTENSION? >> YES, SIR. GREAT QUESTION.

MARCHING ORDER, DECEMBER 31 IS OUR DEADLINE.

ANSWER I'M WORKING WITH. I WILL SAY FEMA IN YEARS I BEEN WORKING HERE WORKING WITH FEMA HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY TALK TO SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF EACH PROJECT SPECIALISTS WORKING ON OUR BEHALF TALKING ALL THE POWERS THAT BE AT FEMA. HELP US GET EXTENSION.

THEY WANT TO SUE THE PROCESS OF MORE THAN THEY HAVE DONE IN OTHER PROJECTS. HOWEVER, I DO NOT HAVE IT IN HAND. HARD TO SAY 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS WE WOULD HAVE IT. I KNOW WE DO NOT GET EXTENSION BY THE NEXT 30-60 DAYS THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO WORK WITH OUR CONTRACTORS TO TRY TO EXTEND IT AFTER THAT.

WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO GET THAT MOVING.

ALL OF THE PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

WE ARE UPDATING AS WE GO. AS I SAID EARLIER, LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM FWC. TALK TO NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE, PROVIDING SUPPORT. WE ARE UPDATING OUR REQUESTS AS WE GO THROUGH. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, NEXT STEP FOR US LIKE THE BODY TO HELP US PUSH LETTER OF SUPPORT TO SEE WE CAN ATTACK THIS FROM ALL ANGLES.

>> ON THE DAYS AND PROJECTED EACH SEGMENT OF WORK ARE THE CONTINGENCIES BUILT IN FOR INEVITABLE.

I REMEMBER LAST SEPTEMBER WE HAD A FEROCIOUS NOR'EASTER, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO WORK ON THE BEACH WITH THAT.

A WELL WASH UP, >> THERE ARE SOME, NOT A LOT.

VERY DIFFICULT. AGAIN, WE TRY TO MINIMIZE IMPACT TO THE BEACH. I UNDERSTAND TRADE ONE THING FOR ANOTHER. WHEN I SAY THAT TRADING TURTLE SEASON FOR NOR'EASTER'S. THERE IS ALWAYS SOME TYPE OF ISSUE WE HAVE TO OVERCOME. THERE IS NOT ÃHI SAY PONTE VEDRA I, FLUFFING UP TO 70. IT S PRETTY TIGHT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE DO NEED TO COMPLETE SECTIONS OF A BEACH AT A TIME. WE MIGHT BEGIN AS I SAID EARLIER LOOKED AT TWO LOCATIONS TO TRY TO ATTACK BEACH AT ONE TIME. THOSE ARE THE CONTINGENCIES WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. NOT NECESSARILY ADDING MORE

TIME. >> THANK YOU MR. GIAMMANCO.

FREE ANSWERS AND HARD WORK APPRECIATE IT.> COMMISSIONER

WALKER. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

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QUICK QUESTION. FOR EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.

AT BUTLER AND CRESCENT CAN WE NOT PICK UP SECTIONS TO DO SAY ONE QUARTER MILE, ONE HALF MILE?

>> SHORT ANSWER IS YES, SIR. WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN.

WE WOULD HAVE TO ALTER WORK PROJECT WITH FEMA.

PAPERWORK ON OUR END. IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID THAT YOU HAVE ONE HOME, THREE HOME, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT.

IF YOU SAY WE HAVE ONE SECTION OF 1/2 OF A MILE OR A MILE WHATEVER THAT SECTION IS, SOME PLACES IN CRESCENT THAT ARE IN

BAD SHAPE. >> ONE OF THE CONCERNS I GOT, WE HAVE MORE DISCUSSION IS PROBABLY 4-5 YEARS WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT SAND, SAND, SAND. OPPORTUNITY TO GET SAND AT USABLE COST. COST TO TAXPAYERS.

IF WE'RE TURNING IT DOWN, I HAVE ISSUE WITH BAD COMING BACK FOR LATER. MORE COST TO THE COUNTY TO GET SAND AT A LATER DATE. IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR SAND, DO WE TAKE THE CHANCE AND GET IT NOW?

>> MR. GIAMMANCO, THANKS FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM DOING THIS.

OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COASTAL EROSION ISSUES.

IT TAKES A SIGNIFICANT HIT. GETS LOST IN THE DISCUSSION.

UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT DUMP TRUCKS DRIVING.

AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR BEST INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY.

TO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. AMAGE TO FEMA UNDER CONSTRUCTION, STATE NOR'EASTER COME THROUGH, WHAT OBLIGATION DOES FEMA HAVE TO REPAIR SECTION DAMAGED?

>> GREAT QUESTION. DEAL WITH IT A LOT.

NOT JUST IN SAND. WE HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF DREDGING PROJECTS THAT HAVE THE SAME KIND OF CONCEPT WITH THE PROBLEM. YOU DO ONE SECTION.

MMEDIATELY TURN AROUND AND DAMAGED AGAIN.

THE WAY WE LOOK AT THIS, WE BASICALLY DO A SECTION AT A TIME. SURVEY THE SECTION.

COMPLETED SECTIONS SURVEYS, NOW THE SECTION COMPLETE.

MOVED TO A SECOND SECTION, COMPLETE A SECTION DAMAGED, THEN FEMA OR CONTRACTORS IS TECHNICALLY NOT VIABLE BECAUSE WE ALREADY COMPLETED SECTION. DAMAGE WHILE WE ARE DOING IT, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT SECTION BEFORE THEY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SESSION.

WE DID THIS WITH DREDGING OPERATIONS.

ONE CANAL AT A TIME. AS SOON AS YOU DREDGE ONE CANAL INTO THE NEXT CANAL, FIRST CANAL COULD HAVE POTENTIAL FAIL. THAT'S HOW WE LOOK AT PROJECTS.

>> OKAY. GOING BACK TO REQUESTING ASCENSION. DO WE KNOW IF OTHER EXTENSIONS GRANTED FOR OTHER FEMA PROJECTS?

>> SO, THE ONLY OTHER EXTENSION REALLY IS THIS ONE.

WE GOT APPROVAL. PROJECTS OF CERTAIN LIFETIME.

TO HAVE FEMA WRITE THIS LETTER TO US GIVING US A DEADLINE IS I WANT TO SAY UNHEARD OF. I HAD A LOT OF COLLEAGUES I HAVE TALKED TO AND ASK HOW DO WE GET THIS AND PROVIDE A LETTER? THAT IS THE ONLY EXTENSION I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR THAT HAS COME THROUGH FORMATION. THEY SHORTENED IT.

>> SOMETHING COMMISSIONER DEAN POINTED OUT.

GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE PERCENTAGE.

THIS DISCUSSION IS MORE FOR US AS COMMISSIONERS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM SOUTH PONTE VEDRA BEACH NORTH.

I THINK YOU CLARIFIED A LOT OF IT TODAY.

I RECEIVED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BERM. LOT ANSWER. ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.

WHEN YOU LOOK NORTH FROM SOUTH CAN'T DIVERT A BEACH, CONSENSUS IN FAVOR WE ASKED FOR THIS WORK HARD FOR THIS.

TURN DOWN AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS.

CONCERNS SOUTH OF THE COUNTY. I SEE THIS MORE FOR OUR BENEFIT

AND DISCUSSION. >> CHAIRMAN CAN I INTERJECT ONE THING. I WANTED TO ADD, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THEY HAVE BEEN STEADILY CREEPING UP.

HAVE NOT SEEN THE LAST WEEK OR 2, GIANT JUMP.

WE SAW IMMEDIATELY RIGHT AFTER EASEMENT OUT SIMILAR NUMBERS IN THE CELL. I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 20-30, STEADY LAST 30 DAYS. PONTE EDRA STEADILY INCREASING RIGHT AFTER EASEMENT'S CAME IN, 50 PERCENT.

EVERY WEEK. YOUR SINK 5-10 PERCENT

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INCREASES ALONG THE WAY. ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS NOT A HUGE PFLUCTUATION IN NUMBERS. PRETTY STEADY LAST FEW DAYS.

>> GOING BACK TO THE ACCESS POINTS RECEIVING FEEDBACK ON

ACCESS POINTS IN THE NORTH. >> ACCESS POINTS IN THE NORTH YES, SIR. MET WITH ONE RESIDENT WAS CONCERNED. NEXT AXIS POINT IS RIGHT NEXT TO HER HOME. AND CONCERNED.

HOWEVER, VERY FEW ACCESS POINTS.

THERE IS NOT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP THERE.

WANT TO EXPAND AS MANY AS WE CAN.

ACCESS POINTS SEE IF THEY CAN PROVIDE.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO OUR BEST.TRUCTURAL ENGINEERS.

MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS. AGAIN, THAT IS A CONCERN FOR AT LEAST ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WE HAVE HEARD FROM.

>> AND WE HAVE BONDS IN PLACE AS WELL THERE IS DAMAGE TO

PROPERTY?> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> GOING BACK TO BUTLER AND CRESCENT. I AGREE WITH MR. WALDRON THAT I DO NOT WANT TO WALK AWAY FROM A GIFT HORSE.

BUT LET ME SAY THIS. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BUTLER AND CRESCENT APPEARS TO BE TAKEN TOGETHER ABOUT 8 MILES.

>> YES, SIR. >> LET'S SAY THERE IS HALF A

MILE, QUARTER OF A MILE EVEN, >> YES.

>> 85 PERCENT REQUEST EASEMENT GRANTED.

I CERTAINLY WOULD RELY ON SAM TO MAKE A JUDGMENT CALL TO COME TO US AND SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS QUARTER OR WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS HALF MILE. NO EASEMENTS GRANTED OR INTERSPERSED EVERY THIRD LOT FOR EVERY 8 MILES.

>> YES, SIR. >> I'M GOING TO HAVE A

DIFFERENT REACTION.> RIGHT. >> WE GO BACK, THOSE OF US WHO WERE HERE FOUR YEARS AGO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE SOUTH PONTE VEDRA PROJECT, ASKED TO CREATING MST YOU, IN UNISON. 50 PERCENT BEFORE WE START TAXING PEOPLE. WHAT I AM SAYING HERE IT MAKES SENSE FOR BUTLER AND CRESCENT THAT THEY ARE INTERSPERSED EVERY OTHER LOTTERY EVERY THIRD LOT, ONLY 70 PERCENT, ONE COMMISSIONER HARD-PRESSED TO GO FORWARD.

I CERTAINLY LIKE YOUR IDEA OF LOOKING AT 1/4 OR HALF MILE OVERWHELMING PARTICIPATION I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT STRETCH AS YOU ARE. THERE ARE IMPACTED AREAS.

>> YES, SIR. >> SMALL, BUT NEVERTHELESS IMPACTED THAT NEED AND WANT THE SAND.

>> YEAH, I'M ON THE SAME PAGES THAT.

YES, SIR. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE POWER WEEK COUNTING CONDO ASSOCIATIONS? HOA OR GOING WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL?

>> WE GO WITH THE HOA. NORMAL HOA PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN CONTACTING US.WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH SEVERAL HOA'S OR REPRESENTATIVES.HEY GO BACK TO THEIR OWN MEETINGS AND COME BACK TO US WITH QUESTIONS.

>> THAT COULD BE MISLEADING ON PERCENTAGE OR THEY COUNTED AS

ONE? >> IF THAT WHOLE AREA THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ÃI HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK OUT IS BROKEN UP IN THE LOTS. I'M NOT 100 PERCENT SURE ON THAT. I DO KNOW IF WE GET A SECTION OF HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SECTION OF BEACHES IS COVERED.

GO BACK AND CHECK. WE HAVE GIS AND REACH OUT TO A LOT OF COUNTY STAFF AND DEVELOPMENT OF TOOL WE USE.

WE CAN SEE EVERY EASEMENT AGREEMENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE CAN SEE WHERE THOSE BLOCKS

OF YES AND ON REPLIES ARE.>> I HAD A COUPLE OF CONDO ASSOCIATIONS WANT SAM. ÃSAND.

ONLY COUNT AS ONE ¦ >> I'M GOING TO BRING UP DAMON.

DAMON DOUGLAS CAN ANSWER THE SPECIFIC QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. SO EACH CONDOMINIUM, THE OCEANFRONT PROPERTY IS CONSIDERED TO BE RESIDENTIAL COMMON ELEMENT. EACH CONDO BUILDING IS COUNTED AS ONE OF THOSE 708 EASEMENTS. EACH OF BYLAWS.

DETERMINATION HOW THEY DO RESIDENTIAL ELEMENTS.

UP TO THEM TO GO TO THE RIGHT PROCESS TO EXECUTE EASEMENT,

JUST ONE EASEMENT. >> CORRECT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. WE HAVE A STRETCH TO SAY ONE MILE-1 MILE AND 1/2 CONDOS LIKE WE DO IN THE COUNTY QUITE A

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BIT, HOW ARE THEY PUT TOWARD THIS PERCENTAGE WE'RE LOOKING

AT? >> EACH BUILDING COUNTS AS ONE.

IT DOES NOT FULLY SHOW INDIVIDUAL CONDO OWNERS IN SUPPORT. WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, DON'T HAVE THE BOAT ON THEIR BOARD TO DO THAT AUTHORIZATION.

>> THINKING. >> YES OR.

GO TO COMMISSIONER WINDERS. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

THERE WAS GREAT POINT, ONE EASEMENT COULD REPRESENT DOZENS OF PEOPLE OR MORE. MR. GIAMMANCO YOU SAID STAFF WOULD NOT RECOMMEND DOING BERM IN AREAS UNDER 40 PERCENT, RAISE CONCERNS WITH THAT.AN YOU ARTICULATE FOR THE RECORD FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC BY STEP WOULD NOT RECOMMEND US

TO PURSUE THAT? >> YES, SIR. THE MAIN REASON IS THAT WE FEEL THAT 50 PERCENT BRINGS IN LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT THE RESIDENCE BURNING QUESTION AT HAND WANTED THE SAND.

AND ALSO IT IS ANYTHING UNDER THAT 50 PERCENT.

IT IS NOT ECONOMICALLY OR ENVIRONMENTALLY ACCEPTABLE.

TRYING TO COME TO THE RIGHT WORD HERE, VISIBLY RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO LOOK AT PER HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR AND CHANGE POTENTIAL COST UNDER 50 PERCENT.

ALSO LOOKING AT IS IT REALLY WORTH HAVING ALL OF THESE TRUCKS DRIVING ON THE BEACH FOR EVERY OTHER HOUSE, EVERY THIRD HOUSE OR WHATEVER IT LOOKS LIKE.

WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER.

THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE SETTLED ON.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT LOOKING AT COASTAL ENGINEER PERSPECTIVE.

ANY SAND YOU PUT ON THE BEACH IS GOOD SAND.

DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS.

IMPACTS BASICALLY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE.

ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.

TOTALITY THAT'S WHERE WE ENDED UP, SIR.

>> OKAY. GO TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 2 THE FEMA BERM.

THREE MINUTES, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD YOU

MAY PROCEED. >> THANK YOU.

ANN TAYLOR, 1365 STATE ROAD 206.

I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR MYSELF PERSONALLY TODAY.

I WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD A LETTER FROM INSERT TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE COPIES OF THIS LETTER FOR EACH OF YOU. I HOPE I CAN DO IN THREE MINUTES. I WOULD DO IT QUICKLY "WE WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER WALDRON MEETING WE ASKED FOR BETWEEN COASTAL MANAGEMENT STAFF AND THE ASSISTANT DEMONSTRATED JOINT VENTURES WITH BOARD MEMBERS AND BEACH CRESCENT BEACH HOMEOWNERS. PUBLIC INFORMATION.

LETTER SENT TO HOMEOWNERS FROM COUNTY CONTRACT LAW FIRM.

REQUESTED HOMEOWNERS TO SIGN AND DATE A RESPONSE GRANTING EASEMENTS FOR DOONESBURY NOURISHMENT.

PROVIDED NEITHER ADEQUATE INFORMATION OR TIME FOR HOMEOWNERS TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO GRANT EASEMENTS. NEED, THE MAJORITY OF CRESCENT BEACH DOES NOT NEED DO NOT NOURISHMENT.

THE DUNES HAVE BEEN IN CREATING SINCE HURRICANE IRMA.

AND VEGETATION IS VERY ESTABLISHED.

IT IS ONLY THE SOUTHERN SECTION IN FRONT OF SUMMERHOUSE CONDOMINIUMS AND AREA NORTH THERE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING EROSION ISSUES. OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS SMALL SOUTHERN SECTION HAS SEEN A FAIRLY HIGH DENSITY OF APPROVED EASEMENTS WHILE THE REST OF CRESCENT BUTLER BEACH HAS RELATIVELY LOW PERCENTAGE. THIS IS A GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE LACK OF NEED.

TIMELINE, PROPOSE TIMELINE FOR THE PROJECT IS DURING TOTAL STCS APPEARED TYPE OF PROJECT DURING NESTING SEASON WOULD BE DISRUPTIVE AND HAZARDOUS TO SEA TURTLES.

REQUIRE RELOCATION OF NESTS TO UNDISTURBED LOCATION.

RELOCATION MEANS REMOVING THE EGGS FROM THE NEST, KEEPING THEM IN THE SAME ORDER AND ORIENTATION AS THEY HEAD IN THE NEST. PLACING THEM IN CONTAINERS, TRANSPORTING TO A NEW LOCATION. CRESCENT BEACH IS ALSO AN INDEX NESTING SURVEY BEACH IN FLORIDA.

THIS MEANS STANDARDIZE HAVE BEEN COLLECTED ON THE NESTS FOR OVER 30 YEARS. MISSING A YEAR WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE EFFORTS TO PROTECT THESE SPECIES.

COST, ESTIMATED COST FOR ENTIRE PROJECT ACCORDING TO JOINT

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ENTERS IS 50 ONE LANE. DESCRIBE TO US AS FREE SAND.

IT IS NOT PREPARED FEDERAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS WITH COUNTY TAXPAYERS ASSUMING 12 PERCENT OF THE COST.

THE REASON GIVEN FOR THE POOR TIMING WAS EXPLAINED BY THE EXPLORATION OF FEMA FUNDS BY DECEMBER 31, 2021.

STAFF EXPLAINED REQUEST EXTENTS AND RECEIVED NO RESPONSE.

SUGGEST COUNTY EXPLORE OPTION MORE AGGRESSIVELY.

ENVIRONMENTAL THREAT. IN DANGER AND IS STATIONED ISLAND ÃLIVES IN DOOMS NOWHERE ELSE IN FLORIDA.

¦ >> YOU ARE REPRESENTING SACCA.

>> BEACH MOUSE LIVES IN THE DUNES OF ANASTASIA ISLAND AND OVER ALSO FLORIDA. THIS PROJECT WOULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL TO THE SURVIVAL OF ENDANGERED SPECIES.GAIN, WE THANKED THE STAFF, COMMISSIONER WALDRON FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH US AND LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS.

WE UNDERSTAND THE TIME CONSTRAINTS THAT MADE THIS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNTY. SUCCESSFUL FOR THE AREAS IN NEED. I HAVE COPIES OF THIS FOR YOU

ALL. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. >> MISS TAYLOR, COULD YOU BRING

UP A COPY. >> OKAY.

>> YES, SIR. >> AND SLAVEN, ÃI THOROUGHLY AGREE WITH TAYLOR. MY MOM HAD OUTSIDE HER OFFICE, POOR PLANNING ON YOUR PART DOES NOT CREATE AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M HEARING. SOUNDS LIKE THE COUNTY DID NOT DO A WHOLE LOT OF PLANNING ON THIS.

THE COUNTY STAFF WAS KIND OF SLOW.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, WHY WOULD YOU SEND OUT A LETTER FROM A LAW FIRM? THAT IS INTIMIDATING TO THE AVERAGE PERSON. WHAT LAW FIRM AND HOW MUCH ARE THEY BEING PAID? CAN I HAVE AN ANSWER ON THE RECORD HERE TODAY. WHY DON'T WE INVITE BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS AND THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR COUNTY AND ARE NOT BEING PAID TO DO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION COMPONENT OF THIS? I AM THINKING AS MAYOR NANCY SHAVER DID FOR YEARS UNTIL SHE HAD A STROKE SHE WOULD SHOW FOLKS THE MAPS SHOWING GLOBAL OCEAN LEVEL RISE AND WHAT IMPACT ITWOULD HAVE.

I THINK THE PRESENTATION NEEDS TO BE MADE TO HOA BOARD.

PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY FRIENDLY LIKE AN EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT AT THE DOOR INSTEAD OF A LETTER FROM LAWYERS GIVING THEM A DEADLINE AND COMMAND. I MEAN, LAWYERS' REPUTATION IS AS CLOSE GOVERNMENT THESE DAYS. COULD WE PLEASE THINK OF SOMETHING FRIENDLIER? BASE OF ST. JOHN'S COUNTY NEEDS TO BE A WELCOMING SPIRIT AND NOT A LETTER FROM A LAWYER DEMANDING IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. YOUR OWN RULES DO NOT PERMIT SOMEONE AT THIS PODIUM AND ASKED FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

THOSE RULES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

PATRICK WROTE THEM, I'M SURE THEY WILL BE ABOLISH IF HE IS GONE. WHY WOULD YOU SEND A LAWYER LETTER AND WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT? NOW, THE ANSWER ULTIMATELY, FIRST OF ALL ON THE BEACH MY SPIRIT FLORIDA NEEDS ÃWE NEED TO TELL LEGISLATORS THROUGH OUR LOBBYIST THAT FLORIDA NEEDS TO JOIN THE 20 OR OTHER STATES THAT HAVE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY EQUIVALENT THAT REQUIRES EIS AND THE ULTIMATE ANSWER IS NATIONAL PARK AND SEASHORE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT UP A BERM THAT IS GREAT.

NOT GOING TO LAST LONG. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE SEVEN GENERATION TEST AS I WROTE ABOUT SAINT AUGUSTINE RECORD A FEW YEARS AGO. ASK ON THIS BOARD AND EVERY GOVERNMENT AGENCY HERE LOCALLY, HOW WILL THIS ACTION AFFECT OUR PLACE, OUR PEOPLE, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN, SEVEN GENERATIONS FROM NOW? WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.

WERE NOT DOING WELL. WE NEED ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS TO ADVISE YOU ALL. WE NEED AN ECONOMIST TO ADVISE YOU ALL. SHORT-TERM CLINICAL DECISIONS.

AND FOR HEAVEN SAKES, DON'T BE HIRING A LAW FIRM TO SEND INTIMIDATING LETTERS TO RESIDENTS.

THAT IS DUMB AS A COAL BUCKET, BUDDY.

I AM APPALLED. I LIKE TO HAVE THE INVOICE.

THANK YOU. >> TOM REYNOLDS, BRING IT IN COURT. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE AGAIN WITH AND SLAVEN ON LAW FIRM AND AND LIKE THAT LADY READ THE LETTER,

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THEY DID NOT HAVE DATES ON IT. DID I HAVE TIMES ON IT.

THIS IS NOT SOMEONE WHO DESERVES A PAYMENT.OMEONE NEEDS TO COME FORWARD AND EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THAT LETTER ÃI AM A MIND BLOWN OVER THE LETTER, TOO.

DIRECTOR GIAMMANCO DID A GOOD JOB ON THIS PRESENTATION.

I LIKE TO. IT WAS THOROUGH.

A COUPLE THINGS ON IT, WHEN HE MENTIONED PERMIT, FEDERAL PERMIT. JUST IN CASE YOU DID NOT KNOW THIS, WE HAVE TWO FEDERAL EMPLOYEES THAT CAN HELP US THAT WOULD BE CONGRESSMAN WALLS AND RADFORD.

IF THEY'RE NOT TOO BUSY PROTECTING INSURRECTIONIST AND CHEERLEADING FOR TRUMP. ASKED HIM IF THEY NEED HELP AT ALL. ALSO, YOU KNOW, SAYING THOSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE BERM IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, I WOULD NOT TRY TO CONVINCE THEM. I WOULD JUST LET IT GO.

THE LADY'S LETTER WAS PRETTY THOROUGH.

I DO NOT THINK ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT BELONG IN THE ORGANIZATION WOULD BE TURNING DOWN A BUNCH OF SAND WHETHER WE PAY FOR IT.

I KNOW NOTHING IS FREE. ALSO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.

NOT AS MUCH AS PAUL, OBVIOUSLY. BUT SUMMER HAVEN, I AM KIND OF BAFFLED ABOUT THAT WHOLE PLACE. WE KEEP SEEM TO BE PUTTING MONEY OR ANYTHING INTO THAT. THINK THAT WHEN YOU MAKE DECISIONS ON SUMMER HAVEN, I HOPE YOU WILL TALK TO BOTH CAPTAINS. PEOPLE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.

A BOAT CAPTAIN GAVE ME A LOT OF INFORMATION.

I KNOW HENRY SHARP, MAYBE YOU'LL FIND A GOOD BOAT CAPTAIN. A SUMMER HAVEN, NO MATTER WHAT YOU REALLY DO TO IT THERE IS A CERTAIN THING ABOUT THE WAY THAT WATER AND SAND ALL WORKS THERE.

I DO NOT KNOW THE EXACT WORDING ON IT, BUT THIS BOAT CAPTAIN SEEMED TO BE TELLING ME QUITE A BIT ABOUT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO AND I THINK YOU KNOW THIS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MILLIONS THERE AND IT WAS WASHED AWAY REALLY QUICK.

LET ME JUST FINISH WITH THIS. I'M NOT WANT TO LIKE TO QUOTE.

SO I WOULD NOT DO AN EXACT QUOTE.

I LIKE TO KEEP SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE FATHER ALMIGHTY THINKS ABOUT PEOPLE BUILDING THEIR HOMES ON SAND. WE KNOW THAT IN THE WORD OF THE BOOK. SO, SOMETIMES THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING ON THE SAND, I THINK WE CATER A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH TO THEM. I HOPE IN RETURN THEY WILL DO SOMETHING FOR THE REST OF US. THANK YOU.

>> THINKING. AS I SAID IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, SUMMER HAVEN IS PROBABLY THE MOST VOLATILE SHORELINE I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO OF ENVIRONMENTAL WORK IN FLORIDA, TOM. YES, MA'AM.

>> MARY ELLEN DERIDDER, APONTE VERDE BOULEVARD.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START. OBVIOUSLY EASEMENTS COME IN, MOST PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW OR UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR SHOW STRONG SUPPORT IN PONTE VEDRA I AND II.

BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH HOMEOWNERS THAT IF THEY TRULY UNDERSTOOD WITH THIS PROJECT LOOK LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE HUNDREDS OF TRUCKS RUNNING UP THE BEACH FOR MONTHS.

NOT 1500 OR 2500 AT A TIME IS SUGGESTED IN PRESENTATION.

ONE ACCESS POINT AS THEN EXPLAINED, 965.

9.5 USE FOR OPERATIONS. ONE ACCESS POINT TO SERVE 9 MILES OF THE BEACH.O, THAT IS NOT 1500 FEET BEING CLOTHES.

STARTED I-65, RUN IT SAND ALL OF THE WAY UP TO THE DEFAULT COUNTY LINE. HUNDREDS OF DUMP TRUCKS A DAY RUNNING PAST THE LODGES, THE ENDS, THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, DEPARTMENT BEACHES, THE RUTS THEY ARE GOING TO CAUSE AND NOT CLOSE BEACH FOR 9 MILES IS GOING TO BE DEVASTATING TO THE ELDERLY. IF THE HIP IS BROKEN TRY TO CLIMB TO THEM TO GET TO THE BEACH.

NO WAIT BE ABLE TO GRADE THAT AND KEEP THIS SPEECH IN ANY KIND OF CONDITION. WE TALKED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO THE BEACH. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF TRUCKS WITH 20 TONS OF SAND IN EACH TRUCK.

HE WEIGHT OF THAT CREATES RUTS THAT ARE 2 FEET DEEP.

HUNDREDS OF THEM GOING DOWN THE BEACH.

YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU SAID YOU DO NOT WANT TO MIX THE EQUIPMENT

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WITH THE PEOPLE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO NOT MIX EQUIPMENT WITH PEOPLE WHEN YOU HAVE TRUCKS RUNNING 8 MILES AT TIME? YES, IT WILL BE 8 MILES.

7.9 MILES, 7.6 MILES WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MILES A BEACH. I AM A FORM BEACH RESTORATION.

COMMISSIONER DEAN AND I HAVE WORKED YEARS TO GET COMPREHENSIVE BEACH RESTORATION.

IT IS CRITICAL TO OUR AREA. I LIVE IN CRITICAL ERODED.

SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PROTECTING OUR PROPERTY. 965 ACCESS POINT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PRODUCTION.

DISBURSEMENT OF THE SAND ON THAT LOT, SEAWALLS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH. GOING TO BACK PUSH THROUGH THOSE WALLS. THOSE WLLS ARE GOING TO BE DESTROYED. YOU HAVE SEAWALLS RUNNING NORTH-SOUTH. GEO TUBES ERODED.

CANNOT RUN AT HIGH TIDE, CANNOT RUN IT MADE IT TIGHT.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, HIGH TOTAL TALK TO ENGINEERS.

MONITORING VIBRATION. ENGINEERS I SPOKE WITH ED U.S.

ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AS OF THE SEAWALLS WITH THIS NUMBER TRUCKS WILL BE DESTROYED. FOUNDATIONS COMPROMISE.

WALLS CRACKED. $10 MILLION DESTROYED.

THAT IS WHY WE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THE PROJECT.

RISK COSTS. RISK REWARD.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER.

>> GOOD MORNING. BOB DRIED AT 941 PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. I AM ONE OF THIS 70 PERCENT THAT VOTED TO PROVIDE A RELEASE SO PROJECT COULD GO FORWARD.

AND I DID IT WITH INCOMPLETE KNOWLEDGE AND MADE A VERY, VERY BAD CHOICE. I AM NOW UNEQUIVOCALLY OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF A COMPREHENSIVE BEACH RESTORATION PROGRAM THAT WOULD BRING SAND ONTO THE REQUIRED PROPERTIES FROM THE SEA NOT BY TRUCK.

THE DAMAGE, THE SAFETY, THE INCONVENIENCE, THE HIGH POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC DAMAGE ALL CAUSE ME TO BE OPPOSED.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IS THE FACT THAT THE BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BERM WILL BE TRANSITORY.

I HAVE SPENT, PERSONALLY, ACCESS OF A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MILLION DOLLARS RESTORING MY DUNE.

OUR DUNE I SHOULD SAY. YOU JUST HEARD FROM MY WIFE.

EACH TIME I PUT THE SAND IN PLACE, I WATCHED THE SAND WASHED AWAY. I AM NOW FINALLY PUT IN GEO TUBES. I STILL WATCH ALL OF THE SAND EAST OF THE GEO TUBE SHORTLY DISAPPEAR.

JUST WALK HOUR BEACH AND LOOK AT EVERY PROPERTY WERE THERE IS

A SEAWALL. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> THE SAND TO THE EAST DISAPPEARS IN A MATTER OF WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS. WE SHOULD NOT RISK THE SAFETY, THE INCONVENIENCE, THE VERY REAL THREAT OF ECONOMIC DAMAGE TO THE HOMEOWNERS BY PUTTING IN A VERY SHORT, LASTING BAND-AID.

I WOULD URGE THE COMMISSIONERS TO REQUIRE PLANNERS TO HOLD MEETING, A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS COULD BE TRULY AND FULLY INFORMED ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT SO THAT THEY RECONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT PRUDENT TO MOVE FORWARD.

PRUDENT TO PROVIDE A RELEASE. I BELIEVE YOU WILL QUICKLY SEE THAT THE 70 PERCENT IN PONTE VEDRA SUPPORT WILL BE DRAMATICALLY DIMINISHED. PARTICULARLY IN THE AREAS OF THE BEACH THAT ARE CURRENTLY CRITICALLY ERODED AND IN EXCESS OF $10 MILLION HAS BEEN SPENT PROTECTING THE PROPERTIES AT

THE INDIVIDUAL'S COST. >> RIGHT.

>> THE LAST THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE HAPPENED TO THEM TODAY IS MOVE FORWARD OF THE PROJECT TO UNDO THE INVESTMENT THEY

ALREADY MADE. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR CAREFUL

CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 2. FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, MA'AM.

>> ELAINA Ã315 APONTE VERDE BOULEVARD.

I AM FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF YOU, I THINK YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ME AS WELL. WE WERE WORKING 3 AND HALF YEARS WITH APONTE BIRD A BEACH. IMPORTANT SAVE OUR BEACHES FOR

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A PERIOD OF TIME HOPEFULLY GET THE ARMY CORPS STUDY BACK WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. THAT HAS BEEN A FT.

AS YOU KNOW A VERY LIMITED OPPORTUNITY THAT THE ARMY CORPS IS BEING BROUGHT IN. ONE OF EIGHT IN AN ENTIRE COUNTRY. UNBELIEVABLE GIFT THAT WE WERE GIVEN.'M HOPING THE COUNTY SEES FIT THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR COUNTY. HAVING SAID THAT, EVERY RE-NOURISHMENT PROJECT THAT HAPPENS IT DOES WASH AWAY.

THAT IS WHAT ITS JOB IS TO DO IS TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO PROPERTIES. THIS SAND IS PLACED THERE TO PROTECT THOSE PROPERTIES. IT WILL WASH AWAY.

THAT'S A KNOWN FACT. BUT IF WE DON'T PUT THAT SAM IN AND PROTECT ALL OF OUR BEACHES, LONG-TERM ÃI CANNOT EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WOULD BE TO THE COUNTY FROM A TAX BASIS. WE WOULD WATCH ALL OF THESE BEACHES WASH AWAY. WHICH WOULD ALSO WASH THE NESTING ABILITIES AS WELL AS THE MICE.

THOSE DUNES WILL BE GONE. THERE WILL NOT BE A HABITAT FOR THESE SEA TURTLES. THERE WOULD NOT BE A HABITAT FOR THESE MICE WE SPEAK OF. I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN PROTECTING THESE AS WELL. BUT IF WE DO NOT PROTECT OUR DUNES AND PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT THERE WERE NOT BE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR ANIMALS TO PARTICIPATE IN.

I SPOKE TO ONE OF THE ENGINEERS, HE SAID IF THE OCEAN IMPACTS INTO THE MARSH, THE IMPACT IS UNIMAGINABLE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT. BUT IT IS JUST UNIMAGINABLE TO ME THAT WE SIT BACK AND WAIT, WATCH ALL OF OUR BEACHES WASH AWAY. WE DO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US AS TAXPAYERS FROM FEMA.

THE FACT IT HAS TAKEN US THIS LONG.

WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTY DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS ONE THE STORMS HIT.OASTAL ENGINEER INVOLVED IN THIS WENT TO OUR BEACHES AND HE SAID THAT THIS IS THE WORST MANAGED BEACH HE HAS SEEN. THE ONLY BEACH THAT HAS NOT BEEN RE-NOURISHED. NOT IMPACT ON YOU, GENTLEMEN, THEN IT HAS BEEN MANAGED POORLY FOR SO MANY YEARS.

BEFORE YOUR TIME. NOW GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND MANAGE OUR BEACHES FOR OUR GENERATION OF FUTURE GENERATIONS. I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN AS WELL.

I WANT TO SAVE OUR BEACHES. WE HAVE WATCHED 128 FEET WASH AWAY SINCE 1978. START DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP OUR BEACHES SURVIVE IT TO GO FORWARD.

AND THE SEAWALLS ARE NOT AN ANSWER.

WE HAVE TO HAVE RE-NOURISHMENT. HAVE TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND OUR

BEACHES.THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, ELAINE.

FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 2. FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

I BELIEVE THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.>> PUBLIC COMMENT NOW CLOSE, MR. GIAMMANCO, CAN YOU COME BACK UP?

>> YES OR. >> IMPORTANT FEEDBACK COMING UP. WHEN WE HAVE AN UPDATE FOR US? WHEN YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING UPDATE?

>> SO, WE HAVE THE CONTRACT READY TO GO.

WE HAVE THE EASEMENTS WE HAVE CURRENTLY, GAVE DEADLINE I'M CONFIDENT TO COME BACK ON JUNE 15 WITH THE FINAL PLAN IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES. I WOULD ALSO REQUEST THAT WE ASK FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT SO CAN ASK FOR EXTENSION MOVING FORWARD. COME BACK ON JUNE 15 IF THAT IS

THE BOARD DIRECTION. >> ALSO HEARD, FROM PROPERTY OWNERS. PLEASE MAKE SURE STAFF, HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT MITIGATION AS FAR AS PROPERTY.

PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR STAFF TAKE TIME TO TALK WITH THEM AND

ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> YES OR.

>> ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE BOARD?

>> WHILE WE ARE ON BEACH RE-NOURISHMENT, I SAY RE-NOURISHMENT BECAUSE NOT A ONE-TIME DEAL, SOUTHEASTERN STATES, A RECENT WE RE-NOURISHED REACHES EVERY SO OFTEN AS ELAINE SAID. ON BEACH RE-NOURISHMENT, WHILE THE SUBJECT. THE FEDERAL PROJECT MOVING AHEAD. YOU RECENTLY MET WITH OUR CORE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE LAST WEEK OR 2 TO DISCUSS PROGRESS OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AM I CORRECT?

>> YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. >> JOINED AT THE HIP WITH THE CORE STAFF MOVING AHEAD WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

EVEN UNDER THE BEST CIRCUMSTANCES IT TAKES A LONG

[3. St. Johns County Taxable Special Obligation Refunding Revenue Note, Series 2021. Attached, for the Board's consideration is a resolution accepting the proposal of TD Bank, N.A., to provide the County with a term loan in order to refund a portion of the County’s outstanding Sales Tax Revenue Refunding Bonds, Series 2012A, Sales Tax Revenue Refunding Bonds, Series 2012B and Transportation Improvement Revenue Refunding Bonds, Series 2012A, in order to achieve debt service savings. If approved, the resolution would: (1) provide for approval of the form of a loan agreement; (2) authorize issuance of the St. Johns County, Florida Taxable Special Obligation Refunding Revenue Note, Series 2021, pursuant to the loan agreement, in the aggregate principal amount not to exceed $53,000,000; (3) approve the form of a bond purchase and exchange agreement and the issuance of a tax-exempt note in 2022 exchange for the Series 2021 note; (4) authorize the repayment of such notes from a covenant to budget; and (5) appropriate legally available non-Ad Valorem revenues. The Finance Team seeks the Board’s approval of the proposed resolution, which includes forms of the documents required to move forward with the proposal, in substantially the same form and format as attached.]

TIME. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

DOING FEASIBILITY STUDY. LET'S KEEP AT IT.

APPRECIATE WHAT ALL OF THE STAFF ARE DOING ON BEACH

RE-NOURISHMENT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >>> GO ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

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3. JESSE. >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.

JESSE DUNN. DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF MANAGMENT & BUDGET. REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY.

PFM, COUNTY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR IDENTIFIED REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT WOULD PROVIDE ANNUAL DEBT SAVINGS AS WELL AS MEET THE COUNTY'S REQUIRED THRESHOLD THREE PERCENT OR GREATER AT PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS.

THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD ON MARCH 2 FOR REQUEST FOR THE BOARD, FOR THE STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER OR ASSEMBLE A FINANCE TEAM, WHICH THE BOARD HAD APPROVED.

AT WHICH TIME WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD TODAY THE CONSIDERATION FOR THAT REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO BRING JAY GLOVER OF PFM TO PROVIDE A REFUNDING OVERVIEW.

>> CHAIR, WHEN HE RETURNS. COMMISSIONERS, AND MR., JR. JAY GLOVER FROM PFM FINANCIAL ADVISORS, LLC.

WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO DISCUSSING A REFUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM WHICH WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF. NOW WE'RE BACK TO DISCUSS ONE RELATED TO GENERAL FUND. THE FIRST PAGE HERE GIVES A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS OPPORTUNITY.

FOLLOWING SLIDES GO INTO MORE DETAIL.

AGAIN, WE'RE STILL NEAR HISTORICALLY LOW INTEREST RATE LEVELS. REFINANCE EXISTING DEBT.

AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR WE DO CONTINUALLY AND BRING OPPORTUNITIES TO STAFF TO DISCUSS.

ULTIMATELY BRING THEM TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. ONE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS REFUNDING, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF A STRUCTURE WE ARE DOING BECAUSE OF CERTAIN TAXOL RESTRICTIONS.

REFUNDING BEING CONSIDERED TODAY IS ACTUALLY ISSUANCE OF TAXABLE FINANCING TO REFUND THREE OUTSTANDING TRANSACTIONS.

YOU'RE ALSO APPROVING OR CONSIDERING A CONVERSION OF THAT OF A TAX-EXEMPT INTEREST RATE ONCE TAXOL PERMITS US TO DO SO. I WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL WHEN AND WHY THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. IN ORDER TO TAKE A PAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY, WE WENT OUT FOR RFP TO GET BANK PROPOSALS.

TALK MORE ABOUT THOSE AS WELL. THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME IS UPON APPROVAL OF THIS TRANSACTION, AND CONVERSION TO THAT TAX EXEMPTION RATE AND FUTURE RATE, THE COUNTY CAN SAVE UP TO $7 MILLION AT NET PRESENT VALUE DEBT SERVICE BASIS.-SEVERAL SAVINGS BY DOING THIS PROPOSED TRANSACTION.

WE WILL GO IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

THE NEXT TWO SLIDES TALK ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT TRANSACTIONS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO REFUND.

AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REFUND 2012 A AND 2012 BE BONDS. ISSUED IN 2004.

THIS IS REALLY OUR KIND OF REFUNDING ORIGINAL TRANSACTIONS. ORIGINALLY ISSUED ABOUT 41 MAIN DOLLARS. OTHER STATISTICS RELATED TO THOSE. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE INTEREST RATES ON THIS TRANSACTION GO AS HIGH AS FIVE PERCENT RIGHT NOW.

OCTOBER 1, 2022, IMPORTANT DATE WE WILL TALK ABOUT.

NOT ACTUALLY CALLABLE FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR FROM NOW.

HAVING TO DO THIS AS TAXABLE FINANCING.

THE OTHER TRANSACTION REFUNDING OR PROPOSING TO REFUND ARE THE 2012 TRANSPORTATION BONDS. AGAIN THESE WERE ISSUED INITIALLY AS A REFUNDING BONDS THAT WERE REFUNDING BONDS ISSUED IN 2003. AS MARKET OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES AND WE APPROACH THE CALL DAY, GENERALLY LOOK TO REFUND THAT. SECOND CHANCE WE HAD TO DO THAT. AGAIN HERE ORIGINALLY ISSUED IN $25 MILLION OF PAR AMOUNT. INTEREST RATES ARE AS HIGH AS FIVE PERCENT ON OUTSTANDING DEBT.

THESE BONDS ARE CALLABLE OCTOBER 1 OF 2022.

THIS IS JUST GETTING A BIT, I W. TWO TYPES OF REFUNDING WE LOOK AT DOING. ONE IS CURRENT REFUNDING.

WHEN WE DO A CURRENT REFUNDING THAT MEANS WE ARE WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE BOND'S CALL DATE. WITHIN 90 DAYS OF OCTOBER 90

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DAYS OF OCTOBER 1, 2022 CALL DATE.

CURRENT REFUNDING ON TAX-EXEMPT BASIS.

UNFORTUNATE, WELL OVER A YEAR FROM THE DATE.

WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS SET THE PROCEEDS ASIDE IN AN ESCROW THAT WILL PAY THE BONDS OFF ON CALL DATE ESSENTIALLY A YEAR AND HALF NOW OR SO.HAT IS ADVANCED REFUNDING.

ESCROW IS LONGER THAN 90 DAYS. WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT IS AS PART OF TAX REFORM MEASURES FROM 2017, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY GOT RID OF TAX-EXEMPT FUNDING.O LONGER ÃMORE THAN 90 DAYS REFUNDED BOND CALLED IEPER WHAT WERE ABLE DO TODAY IS MARKET BECAUSE INTEREST RATES ARE SO LOW, ISSUE TAXABLE DEBT TO REFUND TAX-EXEMPT BOND SET PROCEEDS ASIDE IN ESCROW. WHAT WILL ALSO BE PART OF TRANSACTION IF APPROVED, WILL ENTER INTO A BOND PURCHASE AND EXCHANGE AGREEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO ESSENTIALLY REFUND THIS TRANSACTION WITH A TAX-EXEMPT TRANSACTION AT A LOWER INTEREST RATE ONCE WE GET THE 90 DAY CALL WINDOW.

ESSENTIALLY JULY OF NEXT YEAR, WE WILL BE ABLE TO REFUND THIS TAXABLE TRANSACTION WITH TAX-EXEMPT TRANSACTION.

WE ARE ACTUALLY LOCKING IN BOTH THE TAXABLE AND THE TAX-EXEMPT INTEREST RATE IN TODAY'S HISTORICALLY LOW INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT. ABILITY TO WALK IN TODAY'S INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT WHILE MEETING REQUIREMENTS OF CURRENT TAX LAW. AGAIN, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TRANSACTION WE RECOMMENDED DOING THIS TRANSACTION IS PRIVATELY PLACED DIRECT BANK LOAN.

WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THIS WITH A BANK AS OPPOSED TO PUBLIC MARKET. THE REASON IS BECAUSE EXCHANGE STRUCTURE IS REALLY ONLY ABLE TO BE DONE IN DIRECT BANK PLACEMENT MARKER. NOT A STRUCTURE AVAILABLE IN THE PUBLIC CAPITAL MARKETS. ONE OTHER THING WE RECOMMENDED WE DO, THIS BOND IS GOING TO BE SECURE TO APPROPRIATE LEGALLY AVAILABLE REVENUES. STRUCTURE YOU HAVE USED IN PAST TO SECURE DEBT. A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE OR SECURITY OF EXISTING BONDS.

EXISTING BONDS ARE STILL TAX BONDS.

TRANSPORTATION BONDS. PAYBACK FROM GAS TAXES.

AGAIN SECURED BY LEGAL AVAILABLE REVENUES, GET YOU HIGHEST CREDIT QUALITY AND THUS LOWEST INTEREST RATE.

IT'S STILL GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO MAKE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT FROM SALES TAX REVENUE OR GAS TAX REVENUES.

WE STILL KEEP THOSE TWO SERVICES SERVICES DELINEATED TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT IS PAYING WHAT.

A RECOMMENDATION TO GET YOU THE LOWEST INTEREST RATE POSSIBLE.

WHICH I THINK YOU WILL SEE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RATES SUCCESSFUL DOING. AGAIN, WHEN OUT WITH THE RFP THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT TO LOCAL, REGIONAL, NATIONAL BANKS.

50+ BANKS WE SOLICIT PROPOSALS FROM.

WE GOT SEVEN PROPOSALS LISTED HERE.

BARCLAYS, BANK OF AMERICA, J.P. MORGAN, KEY GOVERNMENT FINANCE, STERLING NATIONAL BANK, TD BANK AND TRUST.

BASED ON THOSE PROPOSALS, PUT TOGETHER A SUMMARY, PART OF AGENDA PACKAGE DETERMINED BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNTY STAFF AS WELL AS COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT TD BANK OFFERED YOU THE BEST PROPOSAL. THEY OFFERED A TAXABLE INTEREST RATE WITHIN THEIR PROPOSAL OF 1.75 PERCENT.

YOU WILL NOTE HERE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING LOCKING IN 1.76 PERCENT INTEREST RATE. THE REASON IS WITHIN THEIR PROPOSAL FOR A ONE BASIS POINT ADDITION TO THE INTEREST RATE, YOU HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO PREPAY THIS DEBT AT A TIME WITHOUT A PENALTY. ONE ADDITIONAL BASIS POINT WE THOUGHT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE, COULD WE REFINANCE IS DEAD? AND MIGHT NOT BE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT YOU COULD ALSO PAY THE DEBT DOWN WITH RESOURCES WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING A 1.76 PERCENT TAXABLE INTEREST RATE WHICH INCLUDES PREPAYMENT FLEXIBILITY.

TD BANK WAS WILLING TO HOLD THAT INTEREST RATE TO A JUNE 9 CLOSING DATE, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

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INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN VERY MULTIPLE AS YOU KNOW.

THEY WERE WILLING TO HOLD THE INTEREST RATE FROM THE DAY THEY PUT THEIR PROPOSAL IN THROUGH JUNE 9 CLOSING DATE.

IT REALLY HAS ELIMINATED THE RISK OF FLUCTUATING INTEREST RATES OVER THE LAST MONTH PLUS TIME, ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE COUNTY AS WELL. AS I MENTIONED, IF APPROVED, ENTER INTO A BOND PURCHASE AND EXCHANGE AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO ESSENTIALLY REFUND THIS 1.76 PERCENT INTEREST RATE TAXABLE LOAN WITH A TAX-EXEMPT LOAN AT ONE POINT44 PERCENT. AGAIN, DO THAT WITHIN 90 DAYS OF EXISTING CALL DATE AROUND JULY 2022.

AT THAT POINT, YOUR RATE LOCK TO 1.44 PERCENT THROUGH THE REMAINING TERM OF THE LOAN. SO TODAY ASSUMING WE APPROVE AND ENTER IN TAXABLE TRANSACTION, WE WILL LOCK IN ABOUT $6 MILLION OF DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS.

WHICH IS OVER 12 PERCENT OF THE REFUNDED AMOUNT.

UPON EXCHANGE OF THE DEBT FOR 1.44 PERCENT, NET VALUE SAVINGS INCREASED $7 MILLION. OVER 14 PERCENT OF REFUNDED FUNDS BAR AMOUNT. WE REFERENCE PERCENT OF REFUNDED BAR AMOUNT. AT PRESENT VALUE DEBT SERVICE, SAY $70 IN THIS CASE. WE COMPARE THAT TO THE PAR AMOUNT OF BOND OR PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF BOND WE ARE REFUNDING. THIS CASE THE RATIO IS 12 PERCENT BASED ON THE PURE TAXABLE FINANCES.

INCREASES 14 PERCENT UPON CONVERSION.

AS JESSE MENTIONED, ANYTHING ABOVE 3-5 PERCENT IS WHEN GEO FA RECOMMEND YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH A TYPE OF REFUNDING TRANSACTION. WE ARE WELL ABOVE THAT LIMIT.

TO FURTHER DEMONSTRATE SAVINGS SHE COULD SEE IT NUMERICALLY, I PREPARED THIS CHART. YOU WILL SEE THE COLUMN LABELED PRIOR DEBT SERVICE. EXISTING DEBT SERVICE ON THREE TRANSACTIONS WE ARE PROPOSING TO REFUND.

REFUNDING DEBT SERVICE IS PROPOSED DEBT SERVICE ON THE NEW TRANSACTION ASSUMING THE CONVERSION HAPPENS.

YOUR SAVINGS THERE IS ANNUAL CASH FLOW SAVINGS.

YOU CAN SEE ANNUAL CASH FLOW SAVINGS IS A LITTLE LOWER, ONLY A PARTIAL YEAR. IT INCREASES TO WELL OVER $600,000 A YEAR. LAST TWO YEARS, A LITTLE BIT LESS BECAUSE ONE OF THE TRANSACTION REFUNDING GOES AWAY THAT POINT. I CAN, AT THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN THE BOTTOM $7 MILLION NET PRESENT VALUE.

ONE THING I WILL MENTION HERE. WE'RE NOT EXTENDING ANY OF THE EXISTING MATURITY. EXISTING BOND GO OUT THROUGH 2034. NOT EXTENDING ANY TYPE OF MATURITY. TAKE SAVINGS OVER THE EXISTING LINE OF CURRENT TRANSACTIONS. THE FINAL SLIDE HERE, A UNIQUE STRUCTURE OF THE COUNTY HAS NOT ENTERED INTO PREVIOUSLY.

ONLY NOW IN PAST COUPLE OF YEARS GIVEN CHANGE IN TAX LAW.

SOMETHING THAT IS BECOME COMMON OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

TAXABLE AND INTEREST RATES HISTORICALLY LOW LEVEL.

TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CURRENT INTEREST RATES BEFORE TAX LAW WOULD ALLOW US TO DO. A FEW OTHER CLIENTS HAVE DONE THESE TYPES OF TRANSACTIONS RECENTLY.

MARION COUNTY, CITY OF MARCO ISLAND, CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG AND SO ON HAVE DONE THESE TYPES OF TRANSACTIONS.

YOUR BOND COUNSEL IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM.

A COMMON TRANSACTION IN TODAY'S MARKET GIVEN WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE.AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TODAY IS TO CONSIDER OR APPROVE A BOND RESOLUTION THAT WILL APPROVE ISSUANCE OF TAX-EXEMPT BONDS, FUTURE TAXABLE BONDS, AND ALSO THE BOND PURCHASE AND EXCHANGE AGREEMENT THAT LOCKS IN THAT 1.44 PERCENT TAX-EXEMPT RATE. SO, IF WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH YOU TO APPROVE IT TODAY. REALLY ONLY ACTION YOU WILL BE TAKING AS A BODY TO APPROVE ALL THE FUTURE TRANSACTIONS.

THEN ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION SIGNED UPON THE EXECUTION OF EACH ONE. BUT NO FURTHER ACTION FROM YOU ALL. HOPE TO LOCK THAT IN TODAY.

AS I MENTIONED, LOCK TRANSACTION AND CLOSE ON JUNE 9 ASSUMING ALL GOES WELL HERE TODAY.

SAVINGS LOCKED-IN. SIX MAIN DOLLARS TODAY.HEN WE WOULD HOPE TO INCREASE THAT TO $7 MILLION ON A NET PRESENT VALUE DEBT SERVICE BASIS UPON THE EXACT ATTEMPT EXEMPT

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INTEREST RATE. I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS RELATED

TO THE FINANCING. >> OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I SEE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM 3 BOND REFUNDING.

YES, SIR. >> I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT TD BANK IS A CANADIAN BANK.

IT IS HEADQUARTERED IN NEW JERSEY, BUT IT IS A CANADIAN BANK. NOT THAT IT MEANS ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR I DON'T KNOW, I'M KIND OF CRAZY, I LIKE TO DO THINGS WITH AMERICAN PEOPLE. COMMISSIONERS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE LAST TIME WE ESTABLISHED HERE THAT THIS COMPANY RECEIVES A MONTHLY CHECK FROM US BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM ON SOME KIND OF RETAINER. BUT THIS IS A HUGE SAVINGS, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. AS I'M SITTING HERE, I JUST CANNOT HELP BUT TO WONDER, ARE THEY RECEIVING A COMMISSION AND HOW MUCH THE COMMISSION IS. BECAUSE THEY ARE SAVING US $600,000 PER YEAR AND TO DO ALL THAT KIND OF WORK, REQUIRE THAT THEY MAKE A LITTLE MONEY. AS THE MONTHLY AMOUNT PAID BY THE COUNTY ENOUGH TO BE DOING THIS WORK FOR US? OR IS THERE A BIG FAT COMMISSION COMING THAT WE COULD USE THE MONEY, TOO? I WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING TO YOU. EARLIER IN THE MEETING, I WAS VERY FORTUNATE THAT LADY DEPUTY, ASKED HER QUESTION.

THIS MONEY WE ARE SAVING, I KNOW WHERE WE CAN PUT IT.

I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU SAVE MONEY, DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO SPEND APPEARED NOT HOW HOUSEHOLD SHOULD WORK, AND A BUSINESS SHOULD NOT RUN OUT AND SPEND APPEARED AT THAT MONEY IN RETURN COULD GENERATE SOMETHING REALLY GOOD, I KNOW WHERE WE SHOULD SEND THAT MONEY. AND WE SHOULD SEND THAT MONEY TO THE JAIL. BECAUSE I FOUND OUT TODAY THAT NOT ONE INMATE IS GOING TO A JOB.

ALL THESE HELP WANTED SIGNS, NOT ONE INMATE IS BEING LET OUT A BACK DOOR, GO TO WORK, AND COME BACK TO THE JAIL.

AND THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. THAT GOES ON IN A LOT OF JAILS.

SO, MY QUICK THINKING IS WHAT SAVED THIS MONEY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A NO-BRAINER, YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR.

WE CAN HOPEFULLY, WHEN THE SHERIFF COMES WITH HIS BUDGET, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADD SOME MONEY TO THAT.

WE CAN CREATE A WORK PROGRAM. BECAUSE I DON'T ALWAYS THINK OF MYSELF SOMETIMES, I PUT MYSELF IN OTHER SHOES, DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN THAT WAY. BUT IF I WAS IN JAIL AND I WAS NOT A SEXUAL PREDATOR OR A CRIMINAL THAT SOMEONE HAD TO WATCH, I WOULD RESPECT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT TO WORK.

ONE OF THESE MINIMAL WAGE JOBS, I BET ANY DISH RACK IN TOW.

I KNOW A GUY REHABILITATED THROUGH WORK RELEASE PROGRAM.

HE WENT OUT, AND HE CAME BACK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 3. PUBLIC COMMENT. THINK THAT

COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> PUBLIC, NO CLOTHES, BACK TO

THE BOARD. >> I PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF THERE ARE NOT ANY OF THE QUESTIONS.

MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021?

>> 233. >> AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE OF ST.

JOHN'S COUNTY FLORIDA TAXABLE SPECIAL OBLIGATION SERIES 2021 ACCURATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT EXCEEDING $53 MILLION.

AUTHORIZING THE CHAIR OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE BOND PURCHASE IN EXCHANGE AGREEMENT TOGETHER WITH ALL REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTATION AND SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM AND

FORMAT AS ATTACHED.> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DEAN. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER

[4. Presentation on North Florida TPO Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) FY 2021/2022 - 2025/2026. The TIP identifies all publicly funded highway, transit and aviation projects within the North Florida TPO area. This area includes all of Duval County and significant portions of Clay, St. Johns and Nassau Counties. This report will cover projects significant to St. Johns County.]

WALDRON. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER

DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD? >> SEEING NONE.

PASSES 570. >> GOOD WORK, JESSE.

>>> MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOR NOW.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING.

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>> GOOD MORNING, I AM WANDA FORREST, I AM WITH NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

I AM ALSO WITH ÃBUT I AM RETIRING JUNE 3. SHE WILL BE TAKING OVER RESPONSIBILITIES. CONGRATULATIONS.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH.

TPL.RANSPORTATION PLANNING AGENCY SERVING CLAY, ST. JOHNS AND NASSAU COUNTIES. RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER WHINERS.

HE IS A MEMBER OF OUR TIP AWARD.

THIS IS FOR FY 2021/2022 - 2025/2026.

TIP OR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT INCLUDES HIGHWAY, TRANSIT, BICYCLE, PEDESTRIAN AND MULTI-PROJECTS. MAKE PRESENTATIONS TO THE REGION. LAST MONTH WE MADE PRESENTATION TO CIVIC ROUNDTABLE. APPROVE ON THE NORTH FLORIDA BOARD JUNE 10, 2021. THE FIRST PROJECT, NORTH OF Ã EXCHANGE TO THE COUNTY LINE. ADD LANES AND RECONSTRUCT FINE BUILD PROGRAM ON 22 A. 95 SOUTH OF INTERNATIONAL GULF PARKWAY SOUTH OF STATE ROAD 23. ITEM 2023.

ADD LANES AND RECONSTRUCT.

STATE ROAD 16 FROM WEST OF TOMS ROAD EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 208.

INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AND DECONSTRUCTION SCHEDULED FOR 2026. FROM SAN MARCO TO NORTH OF PARK ENTRANCE. A BIKE PATH TRAIL AND CONSTRUCTION IS SCHEDULED 2023. PONCE DE LEON NORTH FROM ISLAND AVENUE TO MOSS TRAIL, LANDSCAPING PROJECT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULED 2025. STATE ROAD 27 FROM I-95 TO STATE ROAD 312, RESURFACING PROJECT.

AND CONSTRUCTION IS SCHEDULED 2023.

STATE ROAD 206 FROM STATE ROAD 207 -I-95 RESURFACING PROJECT.

CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULED FOR 2023.

STATE ROAD 26 FROM I-95 INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY BRIDGE RESURFACING PROJECT AND CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULED 2022.

313 FROM STATE ROAD 207, SOUTH HOLMES BOULEVARD.

NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION. SCHEDULED FOR 2021.

NEXT ONE IS EXPRESSWAY FROM I-95 TO EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 16.

ALSO NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION. ASSIGN BILL PROGRAM ON 2023.

EXPRESSWAY COUNTY ROAD 69 E. OF COUNTY ROAD 209.

ALSO NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION. DESIGN BUILD PROGRAM ON 2023.

THIS IS JUST A FEW OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE PROVIDED ON A HANDOUT TO YOU. WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE PROJECTS FOR ST. JOHN'S COUNTY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION OR HANDOUT THAT I MAY ANSWER.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> OKAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> RETURNED TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 4, THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

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GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM LISA MCGLYNN, 703 PINEHURST PLACE.

YOU APPOINTED ME TO BE A CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER OF NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COUNCIL. I THOUGHT I WOULD COME TODAY GIVE YOU MY REPORT. WHAT A COUPLE OF ITEMS I WANT TO MENTION, FIRST OF ALL FOUR OF US WHO SERVE ON CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE ACT, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE CANNOT TALK TO EACH OTHER. IT IS REALLY HARD AS CITIZENS WE CANNOT GET TOGETHER TALK ABOUT THESE PROJECTS.

WE FOUND THAT TO BE A BIT FRUSTRATING.

BUT ON THIS SPECIFIC LIST OF PROJECTS, I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT THERE IS A RESURFACING PROJECT ON 207.

WHICH I WANT TO RAISE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW AS YOU NOW 207 IS EXPERIENCING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.

AND IT IS ALSO SLATED FOR WIDENING I THINK NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER. SO I RAISED THE QUESTION, WHY WOULD WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF RESURFACING THAT ROAD WHEN WE ARE ABOUT TO WIDEN AND YOU RESURFACE IT IN THE MIDDLE OF OTHER CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY GOING ON OUT THERE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE OTHER BUILDING THAT IS HAPPENING.

TO ME THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. I RAISED IT DURING OUR LAST MEETING. I WAS TOLD, WELL, THE ROAD IS SLATED FOR RESURFACING. THAT IS THE WAY IT GOES BECAUSE IT IS ON A SCHEDULE. SOMETHING I THINK THAT I REALIZE DOLLARS COMING IN TO THE COUNTY.

I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT.

THE SECOND THING I WANT TO RAISE, THIS IS JUST PLANNING FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, I THINK WE REALLY NEED AS A BODY, AND ANSWER COMMISSION, AND IS A COUNTY WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK MORE LONG-TERM.

AND LOOKING LONG-TERM NOT JUST MOVING CARS, BUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE PEOPLE. THAT INCLUDES BIKE LANES AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS. BUT WHEN WE GOT TO THIS PROJECT, SOMETHING I NOTICED NORTH FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, IT IS FOCUS ON MOVING CARS.

NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO JUST MOVE CARS.

THINK MORE IN THE FUTURE. THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS WHEN WE HAVE PLANNING GROWTH WORKSHOP IN THE FALL, I WOULD SUGGEST WE PUT TRANSPORTATION AS A PART OF IT.

I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE PEOPLE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW. WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT.

>> I AGREE. ADD SLAVEN, BOX 3084, I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR YEARS, TALK ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE.

OUR COUNCIL ON AGING CONTRACT WITH ST. JOHN'S COUNTY TO OPERATE THE SUNSHINE BUSES NEEDS TO BE REBID.

WE NEED TO PUT MORE MONEY IN. LAST YEAR COMMISSIONER HENRY DEAN WAS THE ONLY PERSON TO VOTE AGAINST 100 PERCENT INCREASE IN THE PRICE OF THE SUNSHINE BUSES.

REALLY A PITIFUL, PITIFUL EXCUSE FOR A BUS SYSTEM.

I'VE WRITTEN BUS SYSTEMS ALL OVER THE U.S. IS ALWAYS, TOO.

CITY OF JACKSONVILLE VOTED FOLKS TO DO 13 STOP COMMUTER RAILWAY FROM JACKSONVILLE TO SAINT AUGUSTINE.

CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE AND DORSET.

WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THAT HERE NOW.

STATIONS ARE SUPPOSED BE READY IN SEVEN YEARS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IN A JACKSONVILLE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT IS TO BE ON OUR AGENDA. WE DON'T NEED TO LOVE PEOPLE AND JACKSONVILLE TELLS WERE PEOPLE NEED TO SAY IN OUR COUNTY. IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR JACKSONVILLE TO BE INVOLVED IN PLANNING? AND TPO TO BE INVOLVED. HA TO QUOTE A POET, THE WORLD IS SMEARED, TEARED AND CLEARED IN ASPHALT.NYTIME TPO HAS COME TO THIS BOARD, ALL THEY TALK ABOUT IS ASPHALT.

A BIKE TRAIL HERE AND THERE. IT IS AS WELL.

WE ARE TALKING WITH THE ROAD BUILDERS LOBBY OF WHICH IT APPEARS TPO IS FUNCTIONING PART.

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER A FEW DECADES AGO, CARTOONS IN DOONESBURY BUT OKLAHOMA COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BEING ON THE TAKE. BRIBES PAID BY ROAD BUILDERS IN DOZENS OF SOUTH EAST AND SOUTH WEST STATES.

I'M CONCERNED OUR PRIORITIES IN TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING DICTATED BY CORPORATE AMERICA. IN TALL BUILDINGS IN JACKSONVILLE. LORD KNOWS WHERE.

NOT INQUIRING CORPORATE EXPOSURE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT

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WAS. ONCE A YEAR, ABOUT TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. NO PLANNING INVOLVED AT ALL.

NOT TALK ABOUT SEVEN GENERATION TEST.

I AGREE WITH THE PRIOR SPEAKER, LISA, WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT LONG-RANGE PLAN. NOT JUST THIS CRACK PRESENTATION WE GET EVERY SINGLE YEAR FROM TPO.

YOU CAN WRITE ON THE BACK OF AN ENVELOPE, MORE ROADS.

MORE ROADS. WHY DO WE NEED 313? 313 AS AN ABORTION. ESPECIALLY NORTHERN PART OF 313 CROSS 12 MILE SWAMP, WHICH IS WHERE CITY OF SAINT AUGUSTINE GETS WATER SUPPLY FROM DEEP ARTESIAN SWELLS.

12 MILE SWAMP IS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT LAND.

WE COVET THAT LAND TO BE PART OF SAINT AUGUSTINE NATIONAL PARK, WE DO NOT NEED 313, ESPECIALLY NORTHERN PART.

GENTLEMEN HAVE COME TO SEVERAL MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT YOUR NEVER SHOWED HIM RESPECT OR ANYONE ELSE TO RESPECT RESPOND TO CONCERNS OF OVERBUILDING OF ROADS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, ITEM 4, I BELIEVE WE ARE ON.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON TPO PRESENTATION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON TWO ISSUES LISA RAISE.

ADVISORY COMMITTEE, MAYBE IF ASKED LISA, I'VE SEEN THE PROPER NOTICE. MEET TOGETHER LIKE WE MEET.

IS THAT HAPPENING? IF NOT, CAN HAPPEN? WE CANNOT OBVIOUSLY TALK AMONG OURSELVES AND LESS IN A MEETING LIKE THIS. IT SEEMS TO ME CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WANTED TO HAVE A MEETING WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT OR TPO CODE, I AM CONFUSED.

>> YES, FIRST OF ALL, THANK HER ON HER SERVICE ON THIS.

OTHER ISSUES. PTHAT IS CORRECT.

THE EGG POINTED ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND CASE LAW PROVIDES ADVISORY COMMITTEES APPOINTED DO NEED TO FOLLOW THE SUNSHINE RULES.

THAT CAN BE DONE. VERY BRIEFLY WITH THREE THINGS.

NOTICE OF A MEETING. DOES NOT HAVE TO BE, IT COULD BE ON TPO WEBSITE. MEETING OUT OF PLACE, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THEN MINUTES TAKEN.

MINUTES DO NOT NEED TO BE A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT KIND OF THING. KIND OF THE GENERAL MINUTES.

SO THOSE CAN BE DONE. DURING ADMINISTRATORS BUDGET WORKSHOP. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TALK THROUGH MORE TO HOW TO REASONABLY MEET THAT, THAT SUNSHINE REQUIREMENT. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. I ENCOURAGE THE ADVISORY COMMISSION TO MEET AND TO TALK. WE CERTAINLY ALL PUT IN A LOT OF VOLUNTEER TIME ATTENDING MEETINGS.

MEETING A LOT OF BACKUPS AND BE GOOD IF YOU TALK TO EACH OTHER.

ECONDLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT STATE ROAD 207 IS BY DEFINITION A STATE ROAD DOT RESPONSIBILITY.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A, ON THAT RESURFACING SCHEDULE GIVEN THE FACT THAT I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS BRIEFLY AT OUR LAST MEETING HOW LET ME SAY HOW HECTIC THE TRAFFIC IT IS BECOMING ON 207. IS THIS A GOOD TIME TO BE RESURFACING GIVEN THE SUMMER HOLIDAYS OR WHATEVER THE NEXT TIMEFRAME IS? I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR INPUT TOWARD THE INITIATION'S INPUT ON THIS ISSUE.

>> YES. CERTAINLY.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THROUGH THE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER DEAN.

TWO ADDRESSING, STATE ROAD 207, A RESURFACING PROJECT.

A RESURFACING PROJECT IS PRIMARILY LOOKING AT IMPROVING FRUIT LINKS. PART OF THAT RESURFACING PROJECT WILL RETAIN EXISTING FACILITIES SUCH AS BIKE LANES AND SIDEWALKS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WOULD ALSO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TURN LANES AS WELL.SO, MOST OF THE PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO DO IS BASICALLY PROVIDING TURN LANES.

SO PART OF THE RESURFACING PROJECT IS EITHER ENHANCE THAT OR MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

THAT WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RESURFACING PROJECT.

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THE SECOND PART IS THERE IS NO FUNDING FOR THE WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 207 FROM I-85 ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE EAST.

THERE IS NO PLAN FUNDING ON THE BOOK.

THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR THAT.E HAVE ASKED FOR THAT, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FUNDING ALLOCATED WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO.

I HOPE THAT HELPS. YEAH.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU WE ARE GOING TO GO

TO COMMISSIONER NEXT. >> COMMISSIONER DEAN, IF WE CAN ASK, BACK AND FORTH. FOR THOSE LOOKING AT SEGMENT OF 313 BEING BUILT. DON'T THINK A QUITE CAPTURES THE FULL PICTURE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH STATE ROAD 13 IN TERMS OF MOVING

TRAFFIC? >> CERTAINLY.

>> GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC. >> YES, THIS HAS BEEN ÃWE CALL IT THE BYPASS. THE CITY DOWNTOWN OF SAINT AUGUSTINE. IT STARTED IN 1989.

SO THAT'S HOW LONG IT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOK.

WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL ITERATION OF THE NEED FOR THAT.

IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT THAT ONE STEP CONNECTION IS ESTABLISHED. IT WILL REDUCE SUBSTANTIALLY U.S. 1 TRAFFIC, MORE PREDOMINANTLY, BASICALLY PASTOR TRAFFIC. AND IF WE HAVE THAT 313 IN PLACE, IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED THAT THOSE WHO WILL PURPOSEFULLY GO TO THE CITY THEY WILL GO.

THOSE WHO WILL BYPASS THAT THEY WILL USE THE STATE ROAD 313.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST MILE OF THE CONNECTION TO 207 THAT WE HAVE FUNDING FOR, ABOUT 12 MILLION IN ORDER TO START THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. WE ALSO HAVE 3.7 MILLION ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE IT COMES OUT BACK TO U.S. 1. THAT IS ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY. SO THEY NEED HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HAS BEEN ACQUIRED THROUGH THE U.S. 1. BACK IN THE EARLY 90S, PART OF THE [INDISCERNIBLE] HAS BEEN RECORDED HAS BEEN RECORDED A PROPOSED ALIGNMENT OF 313 GOING THROUGH THERE. WE ARE WELL AWARE WHAT WE HAD PLANNED TO DO. SO.

YEAH. >> IF I MAY.

>> SURE, COMMISSIONER DEAN. >> THAT GAVE ME ANOTHER LOT, COMMISSIONER WHITEHURST, I PUT ON HERE FOR THE RECORD.

AS WE GO FORWARD. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, I GUESS, A LITTLE BIT ÃMAYBE A LOT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IMPACTS TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS MAY TAKE PLACE AS WE GROW IN 12 MILE SWAMP. IT WAS ACQUIRED BY WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN 2000. AND PRIMARILY, BIO RETURNS, WILDLIFE HABITAT, WETLAND PROTECTION.

IT IS CALLED THE GREEN LINE, NOT BECAUSE IT IS GREEN BUT NAMED AFTER MR. GREEN ODDLY ENOUGH.

EVERYONE SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH THE BELTWAY AROUND ORLANDO. THE NORTH SECTION WAS GOING TO CUT THROUGH THE RIVER BASIN. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE RIVER BASIN, IT IS ONE OF TWO NATIONAL WILD AND SCENIC RIVERS IN THE STATE. THE OTHER ONE BEING IN MARTIN COUNTY. THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF EFFORT GIVEN BY THE STATE DOT TO TAKE SPECIFIC MEASURES WILDLIFE CROSSINGS UNDERNEATH THE BELTWAY AND OTHER PROTECTIONS WERE PROVIDED. AND IF 313 DOES GO FORWARD AND DOES COME THROUGH THE HEART OF 12 MILE SWAMP, LITERALLY ALMOST AT THE HALFWAY POINT NORTH TO SOUTH, I HOPE THE STATE AND WE AS A COUNTY GO THROUGH SPECIAL INTEREST ON HOW THAT PROCEEDS.

MAKE SURE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ARE PROVIDED.

WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY, TAX DOLLARS TO ACQUIRE THAT BEAUTIFUL STRETCH OF PROPERTY.

[5. Public Hearing * Ponte Vedra Blvd Parking Ordinance. Amending Section IX.D.11 of the Ponte Vedra Zoning District Regulations, relating to off-street parking requirements and limitations, and Repealing Ordinance 2006-68. District 4]

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>> THANK YOU. TAKE YOU.

ANY FURTHER COMMENT FROM THE BOARD? OKAY. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL FOR THOSE

COMMENTS.>>> MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 NOW.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JACOB SMITH WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. FOR THE APONTE VERDE BOULEVARD PARKING ORDINANCE. I'M GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. I HAVE MR. BRAD WESTER, CHAIRMAN OF ESD. UPDATE TO CLARIFY EXISTING PARKING REGULATIONS AND ADOPT PONTE VEDRA PARKING.

TRAFFIC MITIGATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PARKED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. AS I MENTIONED, PONTE VEDRA MST PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CODE. IT IS SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS ONGOING PARKING ISSUES PREDOMINANTLY FOLKS, I BELIEVE, IN MAINTENANCE VEHICLES, LANDSCAPE VEHICLES PARKING ALONG PONTE VEDRA BOULEVARD. SPECIFICALLY REMOVES LANGUAGE ALLOWING FOR LIMITED REASONABLE PARKING DELIVERY, MAINTENANCE, REPAIR VEHICLES AND REPLACES IT WITH SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.

FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE APPEAR THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, PUBLIC SERVICE, SCHOOL BUSES, MAIL DELIVERY VEHICLES AND SIMILAR. AND ALSO SEMI TRUCKS MOVING IN AND OUT OF HOMES AND OTHER TYPES OF DELIVERIES.

I HAVE PROVIDED THE FULL LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH EVERYTHING UP THERE. I DO HAVE IT ALL HERE IN CASE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO IT AND REFERENCE IT.

AGAIN, IT REALLY JUST FOCUSES IN ON THE ALLOWANCES OF WHO IS ALLOWED TO PARK, AND WHEN, AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES.HAT BEING SAID, I WILL TURN OVER THE MICROPHONE TO MR. BRAD WESTER, CHAIRMAN OF MSD. HE WILL GO INTO DETAILS.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> HI, GOOD MORNING.