Mar 04, 2021 Planning and Zoning Agency

[Call meeting to order.]

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>> AFFIRM THAT THE AGENCY MEMBES PARTICIPATING BY PHONE CAN HEAR. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OF TH.

FELLOW AGENCY MEMBERS HERE WHENL YOUR NAME PLEASE RESPOND IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

MIKE KOPPENHAFER. >> HERE. >> DR. MCCORMICK IS ABSENT.

DR. HILSENBECK. >> HERE. >> MEGAN PERKS.

>> HERE. >> ROY ALAIMO. >> HERE

>> IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE TRAN OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND REDUCE TK OF COVID ILLNESS, THE BOARD OF Y COMMISSIONERS HAS ADOPTED USINGE ST. JOHN'S EMERGENCY ORDER 20-2 PROVIDE PROCEDURES USING REMOTED ALLOW THE PUBLIC THE MEANS TO CT WITHOUT PHYSICALLY ATTENDING ALONG WITH PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS, INCLUDING EMAIL, THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BY TELEPHONE WHILE WATCHING THE MEETING VIA GTV OR BY STREAMING POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, WWW.SJCLFLUDS THE TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR THE PUO USE TO CALL INTO THE MEETING IS (904)209-1265.

THE NUMBER CAN ALSO BE FOUND ONE WEBSITE. EVEN IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DT PROVIDE COMMENT, PARTICIPANTS AE ADVISED THAT PEOPLE MAY BE LISTO DO NOT PROVIDE COMMENT, AND THOE PERSONS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IDEY THEMSELVES. PLEASE NOTE THIS MEETING IS BEIG RECORDED. FOR THOSE OF YOU CALLING IN TO , IF YOU RECEIVE A BUSY SIGNAL ORE DISCONNECTED, PLEASE CALL BACK. PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED E MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

WHILE A THREE-MINUTE COMMENT TIL BE DISPLAYED ON GTV AND THE WEBE TO A DELAY IN THE AUDIO AND VIDI WOULD ASK EACH CALLER TO ALSO SE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT WHEY ARE COMMENTING.

PLEASE MUTE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOE WAITING TO COMMENT, AND THEN MUE MEETING ON YOUR TELEVISION OR CR WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING TO AVOID O FEEDBACK. AGAIN THERE IS AN APPROXIMATELY 30-SECOND DELAY IN AUDIO AND VIL PRESENTATIONS ON GTV AND WEBSIT. IF WE EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WE WILL RECESS WHY ARE RESOLVED AND THEN RESUME THE MEETING.

MATERIALS FOR THIS MEETING ARE AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE UNDER AGENDA AND MINUTES AND FROM THERE YOU CAN CLICK ON GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, AND THEN PLANNING AND ZONING AGENCY MEETING. AND YOU WILL SEE THE LINKS TO TA AND THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS.

MR.VICECHAIR. >> > THIS IS A PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING HELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA LAW.

THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPY TO COMMENT ON TOPICS RELEVANT TE AGENCY'S AREA OF JURISDICTION AE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUO OFFER COMMENTS AT A DESIGNATED E DURING THE HEARING.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC DESIRIO SPEAK MUST INDICATE SO BY COMPLA SPEAKER CARD WHICH IS AVAILABLEE FOYER. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS MAY BE D ONLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE C.

SPEAKER CARDS MAY BE TURNED IN . THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK AT A TIMG THE MEETING ON EACH ITEM AND FOA LENGTH OF TIME AS DESIGNATED BYE CHAIRMAN, WHICH SHALL BE THREE . SPEAKERS SHOULD IDENTIFY THEMSEO THEY REPRESENT, AND THEN STATE Y REPRESENT, AND THEN STATE THEIRS FOR THE RECORD.

SPEAKERS MAY OFFER SWORN TESTIM. IF THEY DO NOT, THE FACT THAT TY IS NOT SWORN MAY BE CONSIDERED E AGENCY IN DETERMINING THE WEIGHR TRUTHFULNESS OF THE TESTIMONY. IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL AY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO AY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THE HEARINH PERSON WILL NEED A RECORD OF PRS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MAH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AD EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL E BASED. ANY PHYSICAL OR DOCUMENTARY EVIE PRESENTED DURING THE HEARING, SS DIAGRAMS, CHARTS, PHOTOGRAPHS, R WRITTEN STATEMENTS, WILL BE RETY STAFF AS PART OF THE RECORD. THE RECORD WILL THEN BE AVAILABE WOFAPPEALRELATINGTOTHEITEM.

BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THATE BEGINNING OF EACH ITEM THEY SHOE WHETHER THEY HAVE HAD ANY COMMUN WITH THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHERN REGARDING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE M OUTSIDE THE NORMAL HEARING OF TE AGENCY. IF SUCH COMMUNICATION HAS OCCURE AGENCY MEMBER SHOULD THEN IDENTE PERSONS INVOLVED AND THE MATERIL CONTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION. CIVILITY CLAUSE.

[Approval of meeting minutes for PZA 12/17/20.]

ISSUES. WE WILL AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS. >>THANKYOU,MR.VICECHAIR.

OKAY.YOUALLHAVETHEMEETINGMINUTEC EMBER17,2020INFRONTOFYOUANDI'LLF ORAVOICEMOTIONONTHAT.

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>> I MAKE A MOTIN TO APPROVE MEG MINUTES OF DECEMBER 14. >> SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE OPPOSED. P ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE.

>> THAT PASSES. NOW IS THE TIME WHEN WE ALLOW FO COME UP AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTN ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGEND. YOU CAN ALSO MAKE COMMENTS THATN THE AGENDA, BUT IF THEY ARE IN E AGENDA, THERE WILL ALSO BE A PUC COMMENT PERIOD WHEN THOSE PARTIR ITEMS COME UP.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SO MAKE ANY P COMMENTS AT THIS TIM? AND DO WE HAVE ANY ON GTV?

[1. SUPMIN 2020-07 Rush Family Second Main Use.]

OKAY. >> I THINK HE'S ONLINE. >> I BELIEVE HE'S ON THE PHONE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. RUSH, GO AHEAD IF YOU'RE RE.

>> HELLO, I'M MR. RUSH. HELLO, I'M MR. RUSH. >> YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU, SIR.

>> HELLO -- OKAY. YOU CAN HEAR ME. GREAT.

I'M READY FOR THE FIRST SLIDE T. I'M APPLICANT NUMBER 1. THANK YOU.

IF YOU WILL MOVE ON TO THE SECO, MY NAME IS CARL RUSH I LEAVE IT2 HEATHERWOOD DRIVE, ST. JOHNS, F.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A SPECIE PERMIT TO ALLOW THE PLACEMENT OE THAN ONE MAIN USE STRUCTURE ON H PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED5 STATE ROAD 13 NORTH WHICH IS ONT SIDE OF TE COUNTY NEAR THE SHANS BRIDGE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASEAS UK SEE IT'. IT'S CURRENTLY SHOAND AS OPEN RN RURAL.

TWO SIDES IT'S ALSO OPEN RURAL N THE THIRD SIDE IS RESIDENTIAL. IN TERMS OF FUTURE LAND USE, ALE AREA IS DESIGNATED FOR RURAL/SILVICULTURE IN TERMS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMEN, THE FAMILY FARM, THE RELATIONSHS BETWEEN MY SON AND MYSELF. MY SON OWNS THE PROPERTY, ANDRE, AND IT IS CURRENTLY HOMESTEADEDE SECOND USE WOULD BE MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. WE'RE ON THE AERIAL MAP.

THANK YOU. SO ON THE AERIAL MAP YOU CAN SEE PROPERTY HAS TREES ON IT.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS A ZOOMIN OF OVERALL N ON PLAN. ON THE LEFT IS STATE ROAD 13 ANE RIGHT IS THE ST. JOHNS RIVER.

STARTING FROM THE RIVER SIDE ISN USE HOUSE STRUCTURE, AND NEXT IE GUEST COTTAGE, AND ABOUT THE MIA CARPORT, AND THEN ON THE LEFT NE ROAD 13 IS THE PROPOSED SECOND E STRUCTURE.

ALSO ON THE DRAWING IS THE DRIVY WHICH EXTENDS FROM STATE ROAD 1O THE ST. JOHNS RIVER.

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SO IN TERMS THE OF THE REQUIREMO MEET THE STANDARDS FOR OPEN RURE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IS 100 AND SOE ACTUAL IS SLIGHTLY OVER 100 FEE. IN TERMS OF THE MINIMUM LOT ARE1 ACRE, I THINK THE TOTAL AMOUNT 2 ACRES, DIVIDE IT IN HALF THAT'S 1.7 ACRES. IN TERMS OF THE COVERAGE OF THE BUILDINGS, THE MAXIMUM IS 35%, N THE ACTUAL WOULD BE 6%. IMPRESERVE SURFACE SURFACE AREAH WOULD INCLUDE THE ROADWAYS STWE, WHICH IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM LIMI. IN TERMS OF THE FRONT YARD MINIF 25%, THERE'S PLENTY THERE, 200 . THE SIDE YARDS WOULD BE 10 FEET. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE REAR YG MORE THAN 10 FEET, IT WOULD BE O LIKE 500. AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMITATIS 35 FEET, AND THEN THIS WOULD BE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE FAMILY FARM REQUIRED THE FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIP AS I MENTIONED, AND MY SON IS HOMESTD IT IS HIS PROPERTY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT WOULD BY PRIMARY RESIDENCE, THE SECOND U. THE NEXT SLIDE.

IN TERMS OF WHY THIS IS IMPORTAS SFER I'M WATCHING OUR GRANDCHIL. OF COURSE, HAVING-TO-TO SUPPORTE AND I AS WE AGE. AND THEN JUST HAVING THE FAMILYR AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IS WHY WE'RE INTERESTED. AND THE LAST SLIDE, THANK YOU FR CONSIDERATION AND TIME AND HOPEU WILL SUPPORT OUR SUPPLEMENTAL -R SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THANK YOU.

I'LL MUTE UNTIL NEEDED LATER. >> ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE MOVE TO QUESTIONS, DOY AGENCY MEMBER HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION TO DECLARE? HEARING NONE, ARE THERE ANY QUEF

THE APPLICANT? YES, DR. HILSENBECK. >> MR. RUSH, I NOTICED I BELIEVS IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM THAT SOMEOND CALLED IN, ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS APPARENTLY HAD CALLED IN, SAW TE SIGN OUT ON STATE ROAD 13 AND CO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

IF YOU SPOKEN TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? AND ARE THEY ALL RIGHT WITH YOUR BUILDING THIS SECOND HOME ON THE PROPERTY? MEMBERS? IF NOT, WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE IN YOU SPEAKER CARDS? >> WE DO. RICHARD BITNER.

PLEASE STEP FORWARD. >> THIS IS RICK COPPER. I'M CALLING IN FOR SUPMIN 2009.

>> THAT'S THE NEXT ONE. >> YEAH, THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM, . WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 1 ON THE AA

RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. I'LL STAND BY.

THANK YOU, SIR. >> COME ON UP, SIR. >> RICHARD BITNER, PLEASE STATER

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NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORDD YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES, . >> UP HERE?

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. MY NAME IS RICHARD BITNER.

MY SAN ANDREAS 5155 STATE ROAD , SARATOGA, FLORIDA. MY PROPERTY ABUTS MR. RICH'S PRO THE MORTH. ST. JOHNS. I ALSO HAVE MY OTHER NEIGHBOR MR. FERRIS, HE COULD COME UP ANK AS WELL. HE'S NIGH NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH.

WE BOTH OF THE SAME ISSUE IN REO THIS PROJECT. IT'S THE DRAINAGE AND HOW IT'S G AFFECT THE DRAINAGE. ORDERS ON THE THIRD PAGE NUMBER, PARAGRAPH 5 SAYS "THE DETAILED N LABELED EXHIBIT B SHALL BECOME A CONDITION UPON WHICH THE USE AND STRUCTURES SHOWN THRO ARE PERMI.

ANY CHANGE OR SHALL EXECUTE A VN OF THE SPECIAL USE APPROVAL UNLH CHANGES SUBMITTED AND APPROVED E PLANNING & ZONING AGENCY." NO ONE IF YOU CAN BRING IT UP TT EXHIBIT B WHICH ACTUALLY SHOWS E STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE PERMITE BUILT -- CAN YOU BRING THAT UP?S VERY CLOSE TO THAT ZONE 5 RESERD SO OUR CONCERN, MY NEIGHBORS ANB HE HAS A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGS PROPERTY WHICH RUNS THROUGH A CN MY PROPERTY AND THEN IT RUNS INT RESERVOIR. IF ANY OF THIS CONSTRUCTION IMPT RESERVOIR AND CAUSES FILLAGE ORR INTO THAT RESERVOIR, IT'S OBVIOY GOING TO BACK UP ONTO OUR PROPED SO WE'RE BOTH CONCERNED THAT BEE HE'S MOVING THE DRIVEWAY AND THY BE AN ISSUE WITH THIS RESERVOIR.

AND SUBSEQUENT FLOODING ON MY PY AND MR. FERRIS' PROPERTY. I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT WOULD E

ADDRESSED. ABOUT>> MR. BITNER, CAN YOU DEFE RESERVOIR.

>> I'M SORRY? >> COULD YOU DEFINE RESERVOIR. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY RESERVOIR?

>> THE AREA THAT'S ZONED 5. IT'S BASICALLY THE 5 TO 10-FOOTF THAT HE WAS DISCUSSING.

ACTUALLY, IF YOU GO THERE THERET FOLLOWS ALL THE WAY OUT TO ON TE ST. JOHNS RIVER SO IT CAN'T BE D UP. IF IT'S PLUGGED UP, THEN WE'RE O HAVE A PROBLEM ON OUR PROPERTIE.

SO IF HE DOES ANYTHING TO FILL , WE'RE IN TROUBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE WRONM THENOLOGY, BUT RESERVOIR -- TER, BUT RESERVOIR, RAVINE, WHATEVERT TO CALL IT, BUT IT EL GOES FROME

OUT TO THE ST. JOHNS RIVER. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? >> WE DO, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. ROBERT FERRIS.

PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND STATE YE AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND,L BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

>> I'M ROBERT FERRIS. I AM TWO LOTS NORTH OF THE ONE N QUESTION.

5145 STATE ROAD 13 NORTH, ST. A, 32492. AS MR. BITNER SAID, AND I HAVE E PICTURES. I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS. IT'S MOSTLY A DRY CREEK BED FORF THE YEAR BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SG WATER IN IT AT CERTAIN TIMES, AS IMPERATIVE THAT IT REMAINS CLEAE CAN HAVE THE DRAINAGE DONE PROP. I DON'T WANT TO IMPEDE WHAT THEE DOING AS LONG AS THEY UPHOLD THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DON'T, , AFFECT THIS, WITH US BUT MYSELFD JAMES LUCAS WHO IS NORTH OF ME E THE SAME DRY CREEK BED THAT RUNH US, AND THROUGH MR. BITNER'S PRY ACROSS INTO THE RUSH'S PROPERTY.

SO AGAIN, WANTING TO BE GOOD NE. WE DON'T MIND THEM HAVING THE B. BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT IT O

ADVERSELY FIECK OUR AFFECT. >> ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? IS THERE ANYBODY ON GTV TO SPEAS

MATTER? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY,D PERHAPS WE SHOULD ASK STAFF TO S THIS ISSUE.

>> DICK SOUSA, CHIEF ENGINEER. IN TERMS OF THE DRAINAGE WERVE O GET BUILT WITHIN THE COUNTY IS O HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CLEARINGS WHICH WILL INVOLVE REVIEW FROM L STAFF, WHICH WILL SPECIFICALLY E LOOKING TO ADDRESS ANY DRAINAGE CONCERNS. OF COURSE, CODE ALSO PROHIBITS Y ADVERSE YOU'VE OFF-SITE IMPACTSN REGARDS TO DRAINAGE SO WE ALWAYE THAT PROVISION TO CALL BACK ON S WILL INCUR A STAFF REVIEW ON A R LEVEL DETAIL TO ENSURE THAT DRAS COMPLIANT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY. YES, DR. HILSENBECK. >> THIS IS WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AA

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THE RECORD TO BE RECORDED. >> YES, SIR. COME ON UP AND SPEAK INTO THE

MICROPHONE. >> I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK STAFF. >> SO IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK, THEG MAPS, IT SHOWS THAT THAT ACTUALS INTO A CREEK, AND THAT CREEK FLO THE ST. JOHNS RIVER FROM -- IT'N HIS PROPERTY, DPRIE ON MR. LUCAE NORTH. IT ACTUALLY IS A CULVERTED UNDEE FOR ABOUT 90 FEET. THERE'S A DITCH AND THEN IT TURA CULVERT AND THAT CULVERT GOES -T EVEN THINK MR. RUSH RIEMEDZ IT S THERE. THAT CULVERT GOES ALL THE WAY UH BY PROPERTY, 20 FEET UNDERNEATHS PROPERTY, HIS DRIVEWAY BASICALLD INTO THAT CREEK BED WHICH HAS WN

IT RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE TALKING T. >> SO IT DOES HOLD WATER. >> YOU BET YOU.

>> WHICH IS I THINK WHAT DR. HILSENBECK'S QUESTION WAS. IT WILL RETAIN WATER FROM TIME .

THE WATER HAS TO RISE UP TO A CN LEVEL BEFORE IT -- WE CAN'T SEE. >> RIGHT.

BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES, LIKE SAS A RETAINING POND, IT'S DRY CREER MOST OF THE TIME.

WHEN WE DO HAVE RAINS IT HOLDS . AND I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE WOODEF THEIR PROPERTY SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO NOTICE, BUT IF YOUE WHERE HIS DRIVEWAY IS LOCATED WI BELIEVE IT'S CULVERTED UNDERNEAS DRIVEWAY. JUST AS IT'S QUUL VERTED THROUGE AND MOST OF HIS PROPERTY.

SO IT'S NOT NOTICEABLE BUT IT'SS JUST AN ITEM THAT WE WANT TO MAE WE PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL SO IT

ADVERSELY AFFECT ALL THE THE OTR NEIGHBORS. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

MR. HILSENBECK. >> I TALKED TO MRS. RUSH ABOUT S YESTERDAY, AND SHE THOUGHT IT WA HOLE. I SAID, NO, STEPHANIE, YOU NEEDE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT HOLE BECAS

ACTUALLY A RIVER. >> WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FILL T. >> WE UNDER THAT, SIRS.

STAND DOWN FOR A MINUTE. WHAT'S YOUR NEXT QUESTION, DR. HILSENBECK?

>> EITHER MR. RUSH OR THESE FOLE CAN ANSWER THAT PERHAPS. ARE THERE CONTROL STRUCTURES ALG

INFLOW AND OUTFLOAT REGULATING E INFLOW AND OUTFLOW? >> NONE.

>> NONE. IT'S A NATURAL SWALE AND/OR RES. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. DOES STAFF WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS FURTHER?

I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS INSPES YET OR NOT. >> STAFF, CAN YOU SPEAK UP IF Y.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> GENTLEMEN, WHY DON'T YOU TAKR SEAT, PLEASE.

>> MY STAFF HAS NOT DONE A SITEN THIS. WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE TOY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE OVEL DRAINAGE IN THIS AREA. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE E ON MY LAPTOP TO GET A BETTER VIE ELEVATIONS AROUND THERE SO I'M E TO USE I MAP SO IT'S NOM SEEINGS I'M PANNING AROUND THE AREA TRYO FIND IT. HONESTLY IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN OLDER FARM POND THAT WAS DUG OUE FILL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT HOMES D THERE.

IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT TYPICAL . AGAIN THERE'S NO PERMITTING BECS A SINGLE FAMILY LOT OF RECORDS.

THERE WOULD BE NO CONTROL STRUCO WE WILL DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ANE SURE THAT WE HAVE POSITIVE DRAIE

THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TIME. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

BACK INTO THE AGENCY, ARE THEREY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, DR. HILSENBECK.

>> I'D LIKE MR. RUSH TO RESPONDE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AB. >> MR. RUSH.

>> HELLO. HELLO? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU, MR. RUSH.

>> GOOD. GOOD. SO YOU'RE CORRECT.

MY UNDERSTANDING, SIR, IS THAT A FREE-FLOWING DRAINAGE, THAT THIS PARTICULAR SPOT HERE, IT COLLECR AND I'LL JUST USE THE NUMBER 5 R DISCUSSION PURPOSES, AND IT'S SM SURGE 5, WHICH WITNESS AS YOU ST BACKS UP AND GOES FORTH, AND THF COURSE, IT'S NORMALLY DRAINING S THE RIVER, WHICH IS A LOWER ELE, AND IN TERMS OF IT GOING INTO AR DRAINAGE AREA FOR LACK OF BETTEM AND GOING AWAY FROM MY PROPERTYG SOUTH AND THE PEOPLE ON THE NOR, THAT'S WHAT IT DOES, AND AS DIS, THERE IS NO NOTHING PHYSICAL EXR THAT DRAIN PIPE WHICH GOES UNDED THE ROADWAY FROM THE BITNER GOES PROPERTY, 5155, INTO DRIENS PRO,

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AND HAVE NO INTENTION OF IMPACTE DRAINAGE AND CERTAINLY AM GOINGO COMPLY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONSE RULES THAT THE ENGINEER SETS FO. AND IN TERMS OF THE DRIVEWAY AS PRESENTED ON THE DRAWING, THEREO INTENTION TO IMPACT THAT LOW ARH THE DRIVEWAY. WE DON'T HAVE THE ELEVATION, BUT BASICALLY IT'S RELATIVELY FLAT T AREA BEING AROUND THE 20-FOOT EN AREA.

AND I'M NOT A EXPERT ON DRAINAGT CERTAINLY WE'LL COMPLY, AND I'ME THAT THEIR DRAINAGE IS MAINTAIND

THE AREA DRAINAGE THAT'S NECESSR THE HOUSE AND THE DRIVEWAY>> TH. >> YES, SIR.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIR COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGEA

MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION 20-07 RUSH FY SECOND MAIN USE.

A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERO ALLOW FOR THE PLACEMENT OF MOREE MAIN USE STRUCTURE ON A RESIDENT IN OPEN RURAL ZONING, PURSUANT C SECTIONS 2 WANT .0 THERE .28 AND 2.04 .07 AND SUBJECT TO THE FAMM AND LOT PROVISIONS OF LDC SECTIN THE 60S .08.17 AND COMPREHENSIVN POLICY A.1.6.4 SPECIFICALLY ELEF YOU HAVE 69 SAY IT ROAD 13 NORTD ON FIVE SUBJECTS OF FACT AND SUO TEN KANSAS PROVIDED IN THE STAF.

>> A MOTION BY MS. PERKINS, A SY MR. KOPPENHAFER. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? EXCUSE ME. HEARING NONE, LET'S GO AHEAD AN.

[2. SUPMIN 2020-09 501 Aiken St (122510-0090).]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ITEM NUMBER 2 ON OUR AGENDA. IS SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER 2? THE HARPERS ARE ON THE PHONE? MR. HARPER, ARE YOU THERE? MR. HARPER, I THINK YOU CALLED N EARLIER. YOU MAY NEED TO CALL US BACK ORE YOURSELF.

WELL, WE'LL GIVE IT JUST ANOTHEE AND SEE.

ARE YOU THERE, MR. HARPER? >> YES, THIS IS RICK HARPER. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS KIMBERLY HARPER.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE READY FOR YOUR PRESENTATI. >> WE'RE CALLING IN IN REFERENCP MIN 2009, FIRST SLIDE. PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME, SIR? >> YES, WE CAN STILL HEAR YOU.

>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I DON'T SEE THE SLIDES CHANGING. >> THERE'S A 30 SECOND DELAY, S.

YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE IT A MINUTE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

THE PURPOSE OF OUR SUBMISSION IA HOME FOR 501 AIKEN STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA.

WE INTEND TO UTILIZE THE HOME AA SECOND RESIDENCE. THE PRIMARY REASON IS WE HAVE AY MOTHER WHO HAS RESIDED IN ST. AE FOR ROUGHLY EIGHT DECADES AND SS SOME ASSISTANCE, AND I'M RETIRED

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>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD,? 6 >> I ASKED FOR THE NEXT SLIDE. >> WE'RE SEEING IT.

WE'RE SEEING A SLIDE THAT SHOWSE PLAN AND SHOWS WHERE THE NEW MOE IS GOING TO GO.

>> IT JUST CHANGED. IT WAS STILL ON PURPOSE, SIR. I'M SORRY.

THE CURRENT SITE PLAN SHOWS THAE HOME IS 40-BY-23.75 FEET. SIMPLY, THE HOME IS A TWO BEDROO BATH, AND IT WILL FACILITATE OU. THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE WILL BE ME AND IWE HAVE TAKEN MEASURES TO E PROPERTY, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYS AT THIS POINT THAT WE WILL RUN Y PROBLEMS WITH GETTING THE NEW H.

WE DON'T EXPECT ANY DAMAGE TO TE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE FORMER UNIT THAT WAS THERE N DEMOLISHED, AND THE PROPERTY ISD FOR INSTALLATION OF THE NEW HOM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE'RE STILL STANDING BY FOR THET SLIDE.

IT'S STILL SHOWING THE SITE PLA. THE NEXT SLIDE THAT WE'RE CURREY LOOKING AT IS A FLOOR PLAN, AGAS STATED, IT'S A TWO BEDROOM, TWO. THE HOME HAS BEEN REFURBISHED AN RESIDENT EXCELLENT CONDITION, HOWEVER WEE INTENTIONS OF DOING SOME UPGRADT THIS IS THE BASIC LAYOUT OF THE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> THIS IS PAINFUL. >> YES, IT IS.

I WONDER IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ALL THIS SNOW THAT'S FALLING HERE.

THIS SLIDE DEPICTS THE EXISTING MOBILE HOMES ON AKIN STREET. THE BLOCK THAT IS IELTD IN WHITE IS THE PROPOSED SUBJECT PROPERTY. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY THREE MOBILE HOMES AND OURS WILL BASICALLY BE THE FOURTH, AND ON THE ADJOINING STREET, WHICH IS HERBERT STREET, WHICH THERE A MOBILE HOME THERE AS WELL, SO WITHIN THE 300-FOOT RADIUS THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO FIVE EXISTING MOBILE HOMES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASETHIS SLIDE IS.

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OF THE NEW HOME. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> DO ANY AGENCY MEMBERS WANT TO

HUM OR SING AS AN INTERLUDE? DOO, DOO, DOO, DOO. >> THIS SLIDE IS A ZONING MAP.

AGAIN BASICALLY SHOWS THE GENERAL LAYOUT IN RELATIONSHIP TO AIKEN, NASSAU, CHRISTOPHER STREET, AND MADORA, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS FLUE MAP, GIVES ANOTHER PERSPECTIVITY AERIAL VIEW. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASETHIS SLIDE SHN OF THE PROPERTY. THIS WAS THE HOME THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY A FEW YEARS AGO. THIS IS A HOME THAT WAS DEMOLISHED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY AFTER DEMOLISHING THE PREVIOUS HOME. WE AGAIN HAVE PREPPED THE PROPERTY.

THERE IS LIMITED LANDSCAPING CURRENTLY, BUT ONCE WE INSTALL THE NEW HOME, WE WILL FULLY LANDSCAPE THE PROPERTY TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL APPEARANCE. THE PREVIOUS HOME THAT WAS COST-PROHIBITIVE TO TRY TO REPAIR THAT UNIT, SO IT WAS MORE FEASIBLE FOR US TO REPLACE THE HOME OVERALL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE CURRENT UNIT THAT WE

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AND AS INDICATED ONCE THE HOME IS INSTALLED, IT WILL BE PROFESSIONALLY LANDSCAPED WITH A VARIETY OF SHRUBS AND PLANTS AS NEEDED WITH MULCH AND ROCK ACCENT TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN SUMMARY, WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD'S PATIENCE. THIS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH THE BUILDINGS, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENTS AND WORKING WITH US THROUGH THIS AND THE COMMUNICATION DIFFICULTES THAT WE HAVE HAD. SO WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK MRS. RANDOLPH FOR HER CINCHES IN HELPING US TO PREPARE BE THE ASSITANTS IN HELPING US TO PREPARE FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

SUBJECT TO YOUR QUESTIONS, WE THANK YOU AGAIN AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A PERMANENT

RESIDENCE IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. AND MRS. HARPER.

FIRST, BEFORE WE GO INTO QUESTIONS, THERE ARE ANY SPART COMMUNICATIONS TO BE DECLARED? EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? SEEING NONE, THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE HARPERS? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY. WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SUB MIN 2020-09, 501 AIKEN STREET, A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW REPLACEMENT OF MANUFACTURED HOABL MOBILE HOME AS A RESIDENCE IN RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RS-3 ZONING PURSUANT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 2.03.08 SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT THE 501 AIKEN STREET BASED ON SEVEN FINDINGS OF FACT AND TEN CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE

STAFF REPORT. >> FIRST BY MR. KOPPENHAFER, SECOND BY MS. PERKINS.

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THANK YOU, MR. AND MRS. HARPER. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, WOARD BOARD ME. GOD BLESS. >> OKAY.

NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM YOUS NUMBER 3 AND 4 OF THE AGENDA, AND I GUESS INITIALLY I THINK I'LL FIRST ASK IF ANY BOARD MEMBER HAS ANY E. EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DECLARE.

>> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I DO HAVE SOME EX PARTE TO DECLARE.

I SPOKE WITH KEN PREENER, SHE'S ONE OF OF THE RESIDENTS IN BANNON LAKES.

I ALSO HAD A LEANGTSZ CONVERSATION BY PHONE QUESTIONED IS WITH ELLEN AVERY-SMITH WITH

REGARD TO THE PROJECT. >> ANYONE ELSE? I DID HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION ENTERING THE BUILDING TODAY WITH ELLEN AVERY-SMITH ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS.

AND BEFORE WE CALL MS. SMITH UP, I WOULD AT THIS POINT LIKE TO ASK CHRISTINE TO DISCHARGE US WITH YOUR DUTIES AND EXPLAIN HOUSE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH REGARD TO THESE TWO ITEMS, AS BEST YOU CAN. I GAVE HER LATE NOTICE OF THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO TURN THE FLUOR OVER TO CHRISTINE. THANK YOU.

>> NO PROBLEM. BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION, YOU WANTED JUST SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THOSE THESE ITEMS. ITEM 3 IS A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT HAS A DIFFERENT STANDARD OF REVIEW THAN THE OTHER ITEM WHICH IS A REZONING ITEM ESSENTIALLY AS A MAJOR MOD. COMP PLAN AMOUNTS OFS AMOS POLICY LELINGS ACTIONS, DECISIONS ON APPROVAL OR DEFINITELY LEGISLATIVE LAND USE POLICY ARE DETERMINED ON WHETHER THE DECISION IS SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE THAT IS FAIRLY DEBATABLE.

FAIRLY DEBATABLE MEANS THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL ACTION MUST OF UPHELD IF REASONABLE MINDS COULD I EVER DIFFER TO THE RESULT IN RELATION TO THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED.

THE OTHER ITEM IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM WHICH HAS A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION OF EVIDENCE. QUASI-JUDICIAL DECISIONS NEED TO BE BASED ON CONFIDENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND THAT HAS -- COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND THAT HAS A SPECIFIC LEGAL DEFINITION. THE APPLICANT INITIALLY HAS THE BURDEN TO PROVE THAT THEIR

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APPLICABLE AND THEY HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT YOU ARE BURDEN BY PROVIDING COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THAT EVIDENCE IS FACT-BASED OR BASED ON PROFESSIONAL OPINION TESTIMONY. IT MUST BE MATERIAL, RELIABLE, AND EVIDENCE WHICH TENDS TO PROVE THE POINTS MADE. CITIZEN TESTIMONY IS PERMISSIBLE AS LONG AS IT'S FACT-BASED.

GENERAL STATEMENTS OF OPPOSITION OR OPINION IS NOT CONSIDERED BY COURTS OF LAW IN FLORIDA TO BE

COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.

SO THE POINT HERE IS THAT OUR RESPONDENT HERE, FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, IS DIFFERENT SOMEWHAT FROM THAT OF THE BOARD. WE ARE AN ADVISORY BODY AND WE ARE TO VICE ADVISE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THESE CRITERIA. WHEN WE LIKE IT OR NOT. SO -- WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

SO THAT'S JUST A COMMENT RI FOR TODAY. SO AT THIS POINT I'LL CALL

MS. SMITH UP AND ASK HER TO GIVE HER PRESENTATION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD ELLEN AVERY-SMITH, ROGERS TOWERS 100 WETSTONE PLACE HERE IN ST. AUGUSTINE. WITH ME TODAY ARE ART LANCASTER FROM EASTLAND DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF BANNON LAKES.

LINDSEY HAGA FROM MILLER WHO IS OUR PROJECT PLANNER. AND THEN JEFF CRAMIN WITH MILLER WHO WAS OUR PROJECT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER. SO WE'VE GOT OUR PLANNING AND TRAFFIC EXPERTS HERE TO THE POINT ABOUT DEPENDENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND WE CAN PUT ALL THAT INTO THE RECORDS AND ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG.

SO JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME RESIDENTS OF BANNON LAKES IN THE AUDIENCE SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON AS WE GO ALONG AS WHO TO HOW WE GOT HERE. OH LAN BANNON SALT LAKE CITY APPROXIMATELY 588 ACRES.

IT IS LOCATED EAST OF I-95 AND NORTH OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY, AND SO YOU SEE THAT 58.

TWELVE MILE SWAMP IS TO THE NORTH AND THE TO THE EAST AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ST. JOHNS DRI HERE TO THE WEST. AND MARKLAND AND OTHER PORTIONS OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI AGAIN TO THE SOUTH AND THE SOUTHWEST. SO GOING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE, WE ARE GOING TO DO A COMBINED PRESENTATION TODAY FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION AND THE PUD MODIFICATION APPLICATION JUST FOR BREVITY AND SO YOU SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE OF THE APPLICATIONS COMBINED. SO THIS PUD WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2015.

AND BEFORE THAT, THERE WAS DISCUSSION, AGAIN I MENTIONED EARLIER LOCATED NEXT TO THE ST. JOHNS DRI. THAT'S ACTUALLY THEIR IF YOU E LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF BANNON LAKES IS MIXED USE DISTRICT.

IT RALS ALWAYS HAS BEEN. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE MIXED USE DISTRICT ALLOWS 13 UNITS PER DEVELOPABLE ACRES MAXIMUM FOR RESIDENTIAL AND A NON-RESIDENTIAL INTENSITY OF 75% IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, AND SO THAT'S PURSUANT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY. ORIGINALLY THIS PROJECT WAS -- WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING IT INTO THE ST. JOHNS DRI. THEY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

THAT DID NOT WORK OUT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE COUNTY STAFF PREFERRED BECAUSE THIS WAS A MIXED USE DISTRICT, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THEY PREFERRED TO HAVE A STAND-ALONE PROJECT THAT WAS MIXED USE IN NATURE BECAUSE BACK AT THE BEGINNING WE PROPOSED 1400 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH WAS A SINGLE USE, AND THAT WAS ABOVE THEN WHEN THERE WAS SUCH A THING AS A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT, THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY THRESHOLD FOR A DRI WAS 1,000 UDONIS EVER EUTHANASIA. AT THAT TIME THERE WAS SUCH THANK AS DRI BACK IN 2015 SO WE CAPPED THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXTED THE AMENDMENT TO 999 TO STAY BELOW THAT DRI THRESHOLD. SO FOR THE RECORD, THIS PROPERTY WITH ITS DEVELOPABLE ACRES COULD HAVE SLITTING MORE THAN 999 RESIDENTIAL UNITS BASED ON THE 13 UNITS PER DEVELOPABLE ACRE ALLOWANCE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS TODAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE WITH A SELF-IMPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT AT 999 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THOSE COULD BE SINGLE-FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY.

THAT'S BEEN THE CASE SINCE 2015. IT ALSO INCLUDES 105,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMERNL SPRAYS AND

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SO EVERYONE WHO PURCHASED IN BANNON LAKES HAS BEEN ON NOTICE SINCE DAY ONE THAT MULTI-FAMILY, MEANING APARTMENTS, TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES, HAVE BEEN ALLOWED WITHIN BANNON LAKES, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PURPOSES OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY AS WELL.

SO THE ORIGINAL APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AGAIN, ALLOWED MULTI-FAMILY ANDCILLIN-FAMILY, AND WILL YOU LOOK AT THE PUD SECONDS TEXT IT HAS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FIRST FOR SINGLE-FAMILY AS FAR AS MINIMUM LOT SIZE WITH ALL OF THAT KIND OF THING.

IT ALSO HAS MIN -- OR IT ALSO HAS STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTI-FAMILY, WHICH ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED CAN BE APARTMENTS, TOWNHOMES OR COMPLEXES, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PUD TEXT. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE 2015. DUPLEX ESES.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, MULTI-FAMILY COULD HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE IN HERE.

THIS PAR SPELL B, AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA THAT'S BEEN UNDER CHANGE, ST. JOHNS DRI RIGHT NEXT DOOR HAS CHANGED ITS DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM PRIMARILY NON-RESIDENTIAL BACK IN THE DAY TO PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL IN THIS ADJOINING PROPERTY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND HOMES ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED OVER HERE RIGHT NOW. AND SO AFTER THAT, THE NATURE, I WILL CALL IT, OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI NEXTDOOR CHANGED, WE CAME IN AND SAID, OKAY, THIS PROPERTY WAS ALREADY OFFICE, COMMERCIAL OR TOWNHOME, MULTI-FAMILY RIGHT HERE. THIS PROPERTY WAS ONLY COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE. AND THAT'S THE APPROVED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SINCE THAT TIME IT'S BECOME APPARENT THAT THIS COULD BE, BECAUSE AGAIN SINGLE-FAMILY IS NEXT DOOR, THIS COULD BECOME A SINGLE-FAMILY POD AND THE MULTI-FAMILY COULD BE TRANSFERRED UP HERE TO THAT PARCEL A RIGHT ALONG INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY.

IT'S GOT BANNON LAKES BOULEVARD HERE AND THEN DRURRAN DRIVE WHICH LOOPS AROUND, SO IT'S BUFFERED FROM THE REMAINED OF BANNON LAKES ON THREE SIDES, ACTUALLY FOUR SIDES BY THE ROADWAY NETWORK, SO THAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE BACK IN THIS AREA IN THIS PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY COULD THEN HAVE THAT BUFFERING FROM THIS AREA. THERE WILL STILL BE -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S WENDY'S OUT THERE NOW. THERE CAN STILL BE OTHER COMMERCIAL OUT PARCELS OUT THERE, BUT THE PRIMARY PROPOSED USE FOR THIS PARCEL A UNDER THIS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDES THAT MULTI-FAMILY COMPONENT AS WELL. SO GOING TO ALSO THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, YOU ALL HAVE DRIVEN INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. YOU KNOW AT SOME POINT IN THE VERY RECENT PAST THAT WAS PRIMARILY A TWO-LANE ROAD. IT'S STILL A TWO-LANE ROAD THROUGH THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP AND A PORTION THAT SOME OF US USED TO CALL NINE MILE ROAD.

THAT IS A SKON STRAINED ROADWAY UNDER THE ST. JOHNS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT CAN NEVER BE WIDENED BECAUSE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS MADE THE POLICY DECISION THAT IT'S A SCENIC, BEAUTIFUL OAK CANOPIED ROAD. THEY DON'T WANT IT TO TURN INTO A BOULEVARD SO THEY'RE PROTECTING THAT CANOPY NO THROUGH THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP TO NEVER ALLOWING THAT ROAD TO BE WIDENED FROM MORE THAN TWO LANES.

SO GOING TO THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WEST OF THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP, BANNON LAKES DID SPEND MONEY TO WIDEN AND ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED A FOUR-LANE SEGMENT OF INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY WEST OF THE 12-MILE STWAWM AND EAST SWAMP AND EAST OF I-95 WHICH IS SIGNALIZED SO THE TRANSPORTATION MITT GAYS IS IN PLACE WITH AN ADDITIONAL MORE THAN HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN PROPORTIONATE SHARE PAID, AND I THINK THAT'S REFLECTED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AS WELL. ALSO, A PORTION OF BANNON LAKES IS AGE RESTRICTED WHICH BY LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF SCHOOL PROPORTIONATE SHARE OR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

THE PROJECT HAD ALREADY PAID THAT. SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE -- I'M GOING TO CALL IT SCHOOL CREDITS ON THE BOOKS AS FAR AS PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND WE'VE WORKED THAT THROUGH WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THESE ADDITIONAL UNITS, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE HISTORIC FRAMEWORK OF THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION AND THE SCHOOL MITIGATION.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO THIS REQUEST WHICH IS JUST TO ADD 287 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THIS PUD, AND THEY WILL ALL BE PLACED, AGAIN, IN THIS PARCEL AMOUNT OF ALONG INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY

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AND THAT WILL BE NEXT DOOR TO THE EXISTING WENDY'S AND THE OTHER PLANNED COMMERCIAL RECREATION FACILITY WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND HAS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL ALREADY APPROVED. GOING TO THE TRAFFIC, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC OUT HERE, I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS PROJECT HAS OVERMITIGATED FOR ITS TRAFFIC PROPORTIONATE SHARE.

JEFF CRAMON FROM ENGLAND, THAMES AND MILLER IS HERE IF WE WANT TO GET INTO MORE ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT HIS ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT BY REPLACING BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH LAND OUT THERE TO DEVELOP, SO WHEN THESE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS ARE DEVELOPED, THAT TAKES AWAY THE ABILITY TO BUILD ADDITIONAL DENSE COMMERCIAL, WHICH THE PROPERTY IS APPROVED FOR.

THAT ALLOWS THE -- THAT ACTUALLY RESULTS IN A DECREASE IN TRAFFIC, PROJECT TRAFFIC BY ABOUT 40%. SO AGAIN, THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY OVERMITIGATED FOR TRANSPORTATION. NOW THEY'RE REDUCING THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF TRIPS ON THE ROAD BY THIS USE CHANGE, IF YOU WILL. AND SO HERE'S THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AGAIN.

IT WILL SHOWS THE MULTI-FAMILY HERE. AGAIN, BUFFERED BY THAT ROADWAY NETWORK. THIS IS WHERE THE COMMERCIAL RECREATION IS GOING TO BE, AND THAT AGAIN HAS ALREADY HAD CONSTRUCTION PLAN OR I GUESS MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FROM THE COUNTY. THIS IS THE COUNTY'S UTILITY, WATER UTILITY SITE, AND THEN YOU KNOW THAT WENDY'S IS OUT HERE AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER COMMERCIAL OUTPARCEL HERE, SO THE MULTI-FAMILY IS HERE. IT WILL BE GATED. AND SO ACCESS WILL BE LIMITED TO JUST THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE MULTI-FAMILY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP, AGAIN HERE, THIS SHOWS THE ROADWAY NETWORK, THE GREEN SPACE TO COMPLY WITH THE BUFFERING, AD EDGE -- NOT EDGE BUT THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS. YOU HAVE GATED ENTRANCE HERE.

THERE WILL BE TWO GATED ENTRANCES HERE. YOU SEE THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE AMENITIES, SO THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL HAVE ITS OWN AMENITIES AND ART LANCASTER WHO IS THE MASTER DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A SELF-CONTAINED DEVELOPMENT, TO NOT USE THE AMENITIES OR ANYTHING ELSE WITHIN I'M GOING TO CALL AT THIS TIME SHIFNL FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF BANNON LAKES. IT WILL HAVE ITS OWN CLUBHOUSE, POOL, ALL OF THAT.

IT WILL BE GATED. AND THE IDEA IS TO NOT HAVE IMPACTS BEYOND THESE FOUR ROADWAYS. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAVE ART LANCASTER COME UP AND GO THROUGH SOME OF HIS DISCUSSIONS AS RECENTLY AS LAST NIGHT WITH MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE CAN ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE

AFTER HE'S FINISHED. >> THANK YOU, ELLEN. ART LANCASTER 700 OR NOT.

Y VEDRA LAKES BOULEVARD. THANK YOU FORE YOUR TIME. ELLEN MENTIONED THAT I ACTUALLY MET WITH RESIDENTS AS LATE AS LEI LAST NIGHT. MRS. CRAMER AND MR. SHELDON, RELATED TO SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS THAT THIS PROJECT HAS RECEIVED FROM CURRENT RESIDENTS.

I'D LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THESE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THEM. THE FIRST WAS ENVIRONMENTAL, AND HOW THIS AFFECTS PROJECT ENVIRONMENTALLY. THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY WILL ADD MORE GREEN SPACE AS OPPOSED TO A RETAIL CENTER. THE BUFFERS WILL BE GREATER AS OPPOSED TO A RETAIL CENTER. THERE ARE HOUSES WITHIN THE KP DEVELOPMENT THAT BACK OUT TO DURAN DRIVE THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY ANY TYPE OF RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL PROJECT IF WE WERE TO BUILD THAT THERE. AS YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS GENERATE MORE NOISE, THERE'S TRASH PICKUP AT NIGHTTIME, AND TYPICALLY DELIVERY TRUCKS AND VEHICLES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO THIS PROJECT WILL CREATE LESS DEBRIS AND TRASH.

THAT WAS A CONCERN, THAT TRASH ENDS UP IN LAKES. WE WORKED THROUGH SOME DIFFICULTIES OUT FRONT AND VERY HARD IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROJECT HAD A REALLY GOOD ENTRANCE FEATURE TO IT. AND WE SEE THE APARTMENTS AS A COMPLEMENT TO THAT.

SO THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, TRASH CONTROL, THAT IS MUCH EASIER TO CONTROL WITHIN AN WITN

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IGP, THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE CORRIDOR THROUGH TO POLENC ACRES BEING TWO-LANE, UNFORTUNATELY THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT I HAVE -- DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER. THOSE ARE COUNTY ISSUES.

MY PROJECT HAS MITIGATED THE TRAFFIC, AND WE PUT IN MORE THAN WE WERE REQUIRED IN FOUR-LANING RACE TRACK ROAD. ANOTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND MY PARTNERS AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S WHY WE PUT OVER 300 CHARACTER OAKS ON A PUBLIC ROADWAY, BANNON LAKES BHFD.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT IN PLANNING THIS COMMUNITY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO US ON ANY OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, AND I THINK APARTMENTS ADD TO THAT, NOT COMMERCIAL RETAIL, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THESE APARTMENTS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GARDENNAL STYLE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN CEEPGHT WITH CURRENT ARCHITECTURE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILIES HOMES. AND ON TOP OF THAT, AS ELLEN STATED, THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE GATED, LANDSCAPED, HIGHLY A MEN ADVERTISED WITH THEIR N POOL, THEIR OWN DOG PARK, THEIR OWN SPORTS FACILITY. THE THEY'RE GOING TO BE NICE. PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING WANT TO INTO THE FACILITY, NOT OUT OF THE FACILITY. AND AGAIN, AS FAR AS NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER GOES, IT ADDS MORE GREEN SPACE AND MORE BUFFERING.

ONE THING THAT I'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES. I HAVE RIGHT NOW IN EXISTENCE TWO MIXED USE COMMUNITIES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. ONE OF THEM HAS QUITE A BIT OF SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY NETS TO IT ALONG WITH RETAIL. BUT I CAN SAY IT DOESN'T BRING DOWN PROPERTY RULES ALL DAY LONG, BUT WHAT I DECIDED TO DO WAS GO OUT AND ACTUALLY HIRE AN APPRAISER, SO I HIRED ROGER AGONY OF APPRAISAL TO DO A STUDY OF MORE THAN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND HE LOOKED A SIMILAR MIXED USE COMMUNITIES, BARTRAM PARK, DURBIN PARK, BEACH WALK, NOCATEE, AND SEVERAL OTHERS, AND WHAT HE FOUND WAS NOT ONE INSTANCE OF THE A DEVALUATION OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE DUE TO MULTI-FAMILY DIEGO NEXT TO T AND ALL THOSE UNITS HAVE MULTI-FAMILY IN IT.

THE FINAL CONCERN, AND PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN, IS ACCESS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR AMENITIES. OUR PROJECT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'S NOT A GATED PROJECT. IT HAS PUBLIC ROADS, COUNTY-OWNED ROADS.

OUR AMENITY CENTER, UNFORTUNATELY, IS SO NICE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF-SITE HAVE TAKEN NOTICE OF IT AND ARE NOW TRYING TO ACCESS THE AMENITY CENTER.

IT'S A SIX ACRE SITE. IT HAS A 5,000-ACRE POOL. IT HAS A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE. IT HAS A HALF MILE WALKING AROUND FACILITY.

IT HAS TWO DOG PARKS, A LARGE DOG PARK AND A SMALL DOG PARK. AND WE AS A COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THIS AND BEEN MADE AWARE OF IT AND ARE WORKING TOWARDS IT.

THE COMMUNITY DOES HAVE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DLICT, AND THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TODAY IS WORKING ON SOLVING THOSE ISSUES OF ACCESS FROM OUTSIDE INTO THE PROJECT.

AND THERE AGAIN, I THINK THE APARTMENTS HELP REDUCE THAT EXPOSURE TO PEOPLE COMING FROM OUTSIDE. WE HAVE OTHER RETAIL CENTERS IN THE COUNTY, AND WHAT WE'LL FIND

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QUESTIONS. >> DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION, SNENL.

>> IT DOES, UNLESS THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. CERTAINLY WE WILL BE BACK AFTER

PUBLIC COMMENT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DECLARED EX PARTE, AND I SEE ROY, YOU ON THE SPEAKER LIST HERE.

>> YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I SPOKE WITH ELLEN YESTERDAY AT LENGTH ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I WAS HEARING FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM AND DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THESE PROJECTS, PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED AND THEN THEY GET APPROVED AND IT'S ON TO THE NEXT PROJECT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. ARE YOU GUYS CONTINUING TO HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THE RESIDENTS? MARCH 23RD I THINK THERE WAS A MEETING THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE

HAVING WITH THEM AGAIN. >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. BECAUSE SO MANY OF THESE ISSUES ARE GLOBAL ISSUES, WE HAVE SET UP JUST A DEVELOPER Q&A. WE ALSO DO HAVE A CDDD GAUGED AND THE C DHVMENTD CDD E AMENITIES, ALSO IMPROVING NEW ACCESS TECHNOLOGY, ACCESS CODESD IN, AND HE'S AGREED, LIEUTENANT COMMISSIONER WIECKHURST. SO THERE WILL BE CONTINUED

DISCUSSIONS HOW TO DEAL WITH GLOBAL PROBLEMS. >> AND THAT'S MARCH 23RD AT

WHAT TIME? >> AT 6:00 IN THE EVENING. >> OKAY.

>> DR. HILSENBECK. >> I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS LATER, BUT I WILL WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO DELIVER THIS, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT FOR ELLEN AVERY-SMITH. YOU HAD PRESENTED THAT THIS WAS SUBMITTED IN 2015 PRIOR TO THE DEMISE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND IT WAS SCHEDULED ORIGINALLY, WHICH YA'LL WERE GOING TO DO BUT 1400 UNITS. YOU SAID EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS A DC&A THIS WROIVE OF REGIONAL IMPACT, THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY DIB KNOW YOU SCAILTD BACK TO SC9 TO DISET GET UNDER THAT THRESHOLD OF 1,000 HOUSING UNITS, BUT IS IT ALSO POSSIBLE THAT DCA AT THE TIME IN REVIEWING A DRI OF 1400 AT THIS LOCATION WOULD HAVE EITHER DENIED IT OR SUBSTANTIALLY MODIFIED THE ORIGINAL REQUEST? COULD HAVE BEEN EVEN BEEN BELOW 999 UNITS THAT THEY CAME BACK WITH.

>> ACTUALLY -- SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY. WE ACTUALLY FILED, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS 2013 OR 2014, WE ACTUALLY FILED AN AMENDMENT TO THE ST. JOHNS DRI TO ADD THIS PROPERTY IN, AND THAT AGAIN, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT WE WON'T GO INTO TODAY, DID NOT TAKE ROOT, AND SO WE WITHDREW THAT.

AGAIN, BECAUSE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION WAS MIXED USE DISTRICT WHICH ALLOWS 13 UNITS PER ACRE MAXIMUM AND 75% ISR. WE THEN WENT THROUGH THE ANALYSIS, OKAY, IN DCA AND STILL AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. WHEN THEY REVIEW A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, THEY ASSUME MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPABLE PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY, AND I WILL LOOK INTO THE PUD IN A MINUTE UNLESS MS. HAGA CAN TELL ME HOW MANY DEVELOPABLE ACRES ARE IN IT, ARE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS MIGHT BE.

PARDON? SHE IS SAYING BASED ON THE DEVELOPABLE ACRES, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS 4600. UNDER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, IF WE HAD NOT PUT A TEXT AMENDMENT IN, DCA, NOW DEO AND ST. JOHNS COUNTY WOULD HAVE ANALYZED THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AS 4600 UNITS. THERE WAS NO WAY YOU CAN FIT 4600 UNITS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING IN A NICE COMMUNITY THAT EASTLAND DOES. THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THE TEXTED

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DISTRICT FUTURE LAND USE >> OKAY. THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER.

COULD I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? >> OF COURSE. >> CONCERNING SCHOOLS, HE SAID YOU HAD ALREADY MET WITH AND CAN THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AND PAID FOR THE CONCURRENCY AND PROPORTIONATE SHARE AND SO FORTH, BUT THIS IS ZONED FOR NEECE HIGH SCHOOL.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH MIDDLE SCHOOL OR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. BUT GIVEN THAT NEECE IS PERPETUALLY OVER ITS CAPACITY, EVEN THOUGH YA'LL MAY HAVE PAID A PROPORTIONATE SHARE, IT HASN'T AFFECTED THE ABILITY OF NEECE NECESSARILY TO BUILD MORE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE.

THERE'S LOTS OF PORTABLES AND OTHER KIND OF -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL THEM NOW, BUT WE CALL THEM PORTABLES YEARS AGO. NOT PERMANENT STRUCTURES. THE ABILITY TO HIRE MORE TEACHERS, RETAIN MORE TEACHERS IN A CONSTANTLY OVERCROWDED, OVERCAPACITY ENVIRONMENT.

I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT OVER TIME THAT WE MIGHT ERODE THE NUMBER ONE RANKING OF THE ST. JOHNS COUNTY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BY HAVING MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT, MORE AND MORE RESIDENTS. IN SOME WAYS I ALMOST WOULD RATHER SEE SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN PERMANENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ON A PERMANENT BASIS UTILIZING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS COUNTY ON A DAILY BASIS, SO THAT IS MY CONCERN WITH SCHOOLS, TRAFFIC, AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT REALLY GET TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

>> RIGHT, AND I UNDER YOUR POINT ABOUT SCHOOLS. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE SCHOOL BOARD IS OPENING A BRAND NEW HIGH SCHOOL OUT ON INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE OPENING DATE, BUT IT'S SCHEDULED TO OPEN SOON, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY OPENED CAPACITY SO THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN NOW -- IT USED TO BE THAT THERE WAS ZERO HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY AVAILABLE. NOW THERE IS HIGH SCHOOL EXAPT CAPACITY AVAILABLE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THEY ARE CRIRD TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW WITH RESPECT TO CONCURRENCY, AND SO THEY HAVE TO ANALYZED THE FACT THAT WHILE NEECE MAY BE OVERCROWDED, SOME OF THOSE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE NEW SCHOOLS OR THEY'LL BE RESHUFFLED THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO THERE IS HAD A RELIEVER HIGH SCHOOL COMING. AND ALSO, I SAW ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AGENDA THAT I WAS LOOKING AT JUST THIS MORNING THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL WHICH WILL BE III. IT WILL BE A NEW HIGH SCHOOL AND I BELIEVE IT WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN TWIN CREEKS, AND SO THAT PLANNING HAS ALREADY STARTED.

WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT, AGAIN, THERE ARE, I BELIEVE YOU APPROXIMATELY 190 AGE-RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHICH, OF COURSE, HAVE BEEN MITIGATED FOR, BUT UNDER THE LAW ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY FOR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. SO THAT'S THE BUCKET THAT WE'RE USING, SO TO SPEAK, TO SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE ALREADY -- AND OF COURSE SOME OF THE MITIGATION IS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY, SOME IS FOR MULTI-FAMILY. IF THERE'S A DELTA BETWEEN THIS NUMBER OF MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, THEN THE DEVELOPER WILL PAY AN ADDITIONAL PROPORTIONAL SHARE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A TRADEOFF EVENLY. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THAT UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON THE QUEUE.

SO WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

I'M GOING TO CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE STEP FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. FIRST SPEAKER TODAY ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 AND 4 IS KIM

KRAMER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S KREN YES, KRENNIER.

MY NAME IS CRIMM KRENNIER A LIVE IN -- IN BANNON LAKES, AND I WANT TO THANK ART LANCASTER.

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IT'S TWO-LANE. IT GOES THROUGH A SWAMP WHICH IS FULL OF WATER, AND WHEN IT RAINS, THE WATER COMES OVER THE ROAD. AND I'VE DRIVEN ON THAT, AND IT'S BEEN THE MOST HARROWING FIVE MILES OF MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN, SO I DO HAVE A WESTERN R. CONCERN WITH THAT. AS THATES PIECE OF ROAD IS BOOKING MORE AND MORE OF A MAJOR ARTERY. SO WOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BE REM DPIPPED KNOW ART CAN'T CONTROL EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO IF THERE'S SMOG WE CAN DO. IT'S A SCENIC ROAD SO IT CANNOT BE WIDENED BUT IT IS A VERY DAWRCHTION STRETCH ROAD AND THAT DOES CURRENCY, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. >> MR. MICHAEL SHELDON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL SHELDON I'M FROM 54 ROCK SPRING LOOP. I DO HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE PETITIONER'S APPLICATION. I WILL FOCUS ON THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC BUT NOT NUMBERS.

WHAT I TALK ABOUT IS CONGESTION OR IN THIS CASE FLOW. INDEED, THE FLOW HAS CHANGED FROM MOVING WEST TO PUBLIX DOWN TE ROAD AND NOW TO EAST TO THE NEW PUBLIX IN VALENCIA.

THAT HAS CREATED SUBSTANTIAL STRESS. WHEN YOU ADD THE FACT THAT INTO THE COMMUNITY YOU NOW HAVE ANOTHER 1600 HOMES, ALL OF WHICH WILL PROBABLY GO TO I-95 AND NOT TO MARBELLA, THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM. YOU ALSO HAVE THE CONGESTION ON -- NOT ON THE MAJOR STREETS BUT ON THE LOCAL STREETS, AND THAT'S WHERE REALLY OUR FOCUS HAS TO BE PLACED. YOU HAVE THE INTERSECTIONS OF BANNON LAKES BOULEVARD, PARKLAND TRAIL, AND DURAN ROAD ALL COMING TOGETHER. THEY'RE ALREADY SUBSTANTIAL 10 TO 20 MINUTE WAIT SOMETIMES TO EXIT THE COMMUNITY. SECONDLY, WE NOW HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT. THE WATER MANAGEMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SEWER AND WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, IT ALL GOES THROUGH TO ONE LAKE.

NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED, BUT THE FACT IS THAT THIS ONE LAKE WILL BE THE REPOSITORY OF THE OILS, THE GAS, THE TRASH THAT WILL COME THROUGH.

THAT LAKE IS NOT -- IS MANAGED BY EITHER THE CDD FOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

SO SOME KIND OF REMEDY NEEDS TO BE MADE THERE. THE ATTORNEY WENT THROUGH THE HISTORY BUT SHE OH MUTD A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND THAT IS THAT OVER TIME THE COMMUNITY HAS GIVEN UP LAND FOR THE WATER TREATMENT FACILITY, HAS GIVEN UP THE PARKS IN LIEU OF COMMERCIAL, IT HAS GIVEN UP CDD FEES, AND NOW IT'S GIVING UP THE TOWN CENTER. WHAT I'M HEARING IS TAKE, TAKE, TAKE, AND NO GIVE. WE'VE NOT HAD ANYTHING IN THE WAY OF ADDITIONAL FACILITIES OR AMENITIES IN ORDER TO BALANCE WHAT WE'VE GIVEN. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I DO THANK ART FOR CONTACTING US YESTERDAY AT 4:30 IN THE AFTERNOON TO HAVE A MEETING AT 6:00.

AND I DO -- BUT DO I ADMONISH HIM IN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT MEETING SIX MONTHS AGO.

YOU NEED TO GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED EARLY ON, AND THE FACT IS THAT EVEN WITH THE MESQUITE ON THE 23RD, IT'S -- MEETING ON THE 23RD, IT'S MONTHS TOO LATE IN ORDER TO GET MEECHAIELFUL PARKINSON'S OF THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD ASK THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU SEE THESE KIND OF MAJOR MODS ASK AS THE NUMBER ONE PROIRTD DID YOU GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED AS THE LAND USE SAYS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> INSPECTION SPEAKER IS MR. DAVID PEPPER>> GOOD AFTERNO.

MY NAME IS DAVID PEPPER. I LIVE AT 340 OAK RIDGE TRAIL. I AM HERE TO ASK OR IS THIS

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STORM DRAINAGE. >> SIR, YOU'RE HERE TO MAKE COMMENT, NOT ASK US QUESTIONS.

>> OKAYTHE RUNOFF FROM THAT AREE EAST SIDE OF 95 IS NOW CAUSING FLOODING ON SOUTH FRANCIS ROAD.

ON SOUTH FRANCIS ROAD I OWN AN OPERATING AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS ON SOUTH FRANCIS ROAD THAT IS GETTING FLOODED, AND ALL OF RESIDENTS ARE STARTING TO GET TOGETHER TO SOUTH FRANCIS ROAD NOW TO PLAN HOW TO GET TO YA'LL AND GET YOUR EAR AND TALK TO YOU.

SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE FLOODING IS ACTUALLY IMPEDING THE ABILITY FOR THE FARMS TO OPERATE ON SOUTH FRANCIS ROAD. WE'VE PICKED UP ALL OF -- ALL OF THE NEW GAS STATION THERE, BUCKY'S. WE'VE PICKED UP ALL OF THE FLOW FROM MARKLAND AND ALL OF THAT. AND THE SWAMP, THE TURNBULL SWAMP IS NOT FLOWING VERY WELL AT ALL. THERE IS NO REAL SHEET FLOW THROUGH TURNBULL SWAMP NOW, AND THERE'S ALMOST NO FLOW UNDERNEATH THE CULVERT AT 16. YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE AND THROW A LEAF IN THE WATER AND IT WON'T GO ANYWHERE WITH ALL THE RAIN WE'VE BEEN GETTING.

BUT REALLY I'M HERE TO QUESTION WHETHER THE RUNOFF IS GOING TO AFFECT MY PROPERTY THAT I OWN, WHICH IS AN OPERATING AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS, ON SOUTH FRANCIS ROAD.

IF THE WATER FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES TO THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP, IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME, AND THE RESIDENTS UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. BUT IF IT GOES THE WAY MARKLAND GOES AND HAS THAT BIG CULVERT UNDER I-95 WHERE THE WATER THEN TRANSFERS OVER TO US AND THE TURNBULL SWAMP, WE WILL ALL BE AFFECTED. NEGATIVELY.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. RAYMOND PLUMB POE. I APOLOGIZE IF BOW. PALUMBO.

I APOLOGIZE IF I GOT THAT WRONG. DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND --

>> OKAY. OKAY. LISA PALUMBO.

OKAY.

COMMUNITY. >> NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MA'AM.

>> NAME AND ADDRESS. >> I'M SORRY. 74 ROCK SPRING LOOP.

AND WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY THERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE WERE LIKE, OH, THIS IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A RELATIVELY QUIET, ALTHOUGH WE KNEW THERE WERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ADJACENT TO US, THAT DIDN'T BOTHER US BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF YOUNG AND ACTIVE 55-PLUS PEOPLE, SO WE ENJOYED THE BIKE RIDING, THE WALKING AND ALL THAT. BUT NOW THAT BUCKY'S HAS COME IN, WE HEAR COSTCO'S COMING IN, THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL IS THERE, THESE APARTMENTS ARE BEING PROPOSED.

THE WHOLE ENVIRONMENT OF THE AREA IS BEING CHANGED, AND APARTMENTS, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE A SNOB, BUT APARTMENTS TO ME SIGNIFICANCE SIGNIFIES A DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMUITY, AND WE MOVED INTO BANN LAKES BECAUSE IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL AND QUIET, AND I JUST HAVE A CONCERN THAT WITH MORE TRAFFIC, MORE BIDLE BUILDING, IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY

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LIKE I SAID, THE TRAFFIC, THE CONGESTION, THE TEARING DOWN ALL THE TREES, THE BEAUTY ISN'T GOING TO BE THERE ANYMORE. WORLD GOLF VILLAGE ISN'T THE SAME.

I JUST HATE TO SEE IT ALL HAPPEN. SO I WISH THAT EVERYBODY IN BANNON LAKES HAD THE MONEY TO PUT IN TOGETHER AND BUY THAT PROPERTY AND TURN IT INTO A

PARK. THAT'S HOW I FEEL. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? >> NO, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON

THE PHONE? >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

SO WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO

ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS. >> I'M GOING TO PULL UP THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

I WENT THE WRONG WAY. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO PULL UP THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP SO THAT WE'RE ALL -- BECAUSE WE STARTED OUT, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR PEOPLE WHO RECENTLY MOVED TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY, A LOT OF THE INTERCHANGE NODES AT I-95 AND IGP, CROIB ROAD 210, STATE ROAD 16, HAVE LONG BEEN DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE NODES SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE HIGHER DENSITY USES AT THE INTERCHANGES AND THEN THE DENSITY AS LESSES YOU GOT AWAY FROM THOSE INTERCHALLENGES. THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED BY THE COUNTY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AROUND 1990. SO THIS LAND HAS HAD THIS INTENSITY OF USE PERMITTED, IF YOU WILL, FOR 30 YEARS OR LONGER.

I THINK THAT THAT GOES BACK. AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP THAT ALL THE LAND THAT'S DESIGNATED AS RS, RURAL/SILVICULTURE, IS TWELVE MILE SWAMP AND WON'T BE DEVELOPED. SO PART OF THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA AND, TO MS. CREMIER, AND I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT, TO HER POINT, THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE.

SOME PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T. BUT IT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S OWNED BY THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

IT IS OWNED PRIVATELY. WITH RESPECT TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE MR. CRANON COME UP HERE -- WITH RESPECT TO THE STORM WATER, CERTAINLY THE STORM WATER SYSTEM FOR THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE ST. JOHNS WATER RIVER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT PURSUANT TO FLORIDA LAW, AND THIS PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT OF THIS SITE IS NOT CHANGING. NONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT HERE WITHIN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU SEE ALL THE SEVEN WETLANDS THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED. THAT DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT NOT CHANGING WITH THIS ADDITION OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT STORM WATER, AND IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT IT DOES DRAIN TO THE TWELVE MILE SWAMP THAT'S JUST RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

WITH RESPECT TO THE MEETINGS, I DWOONT TO POINT OUT THAT IN YOUT THAT IN YOUR RECORD YOU WILL NOTE THAT THERE I WAS MEETING LAST FALL BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS WITH MR. LANCASTER AND THEN COMMISIONER JIMMY JOHNS. BANNON LAKES ALSO THANK HAS QUARTERLY DCC MEETINGS TO ANSWER RESIDENT CONCERNS, SO LAST NIGHT'S MEETING WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME MR. LANCASTER HAS MET WITH THE RESIDENTS, AND I THINK THAT'S IN YOUR RECORD SUBMITTED BY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES. I'M GOING TO LET JEFF COME UP AND TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC BECAUSE I

THINK HE IS AN EXPERT IN IT AND HE CAN OPINE. >> JEFF CRAMMAN 14775 OLD SARATOGA ROAD. AS ELLEN PRESENTED DURING THE PRESENTATION, THE CONVERSION OF THE RETAIL TO MULTI-FAMILY ON PARCEL A WILL REDUCE THE GROSS& TRIPS OUT OF PARCEL A BY 40%.

IT WILL REDUCE THE NET TRIPS GROSS MINUS INTERNAL AND PASS-BY-TRAFFIC BY 30%.

SO REDUCES OR HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REDUCE CONGESTION BOTH INTERNALLY ANDY EXTERNALLY FOR BANNON LAKESRETAE TRAFFIC, AND IF IT BECOMES STRIP RETAIL WHERE YOU'VE GOT FAST FOOD, GAS STATIONS, WHATEVER, THAT IS EVEN HIGHER THAN THE SHOPPING CENTER RATE THERE THAT WAS USED FOR THAT. SO IN ESSENCE THIS CHANGE ACTUALLY REDUCES THE IMPACTS DUE TO TRAFFIC ON BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL ROADWAYS. THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU. >> SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY

HAVE. >> I HAVE NO ONE ON THE QUEUE, SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK INTO THE AGENCY. AND WE'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 3 FIRST AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION, DR. HILSENBECK, SO YOU CAN COMMENT.

>> I LEAVE IT 2203 BANNON LAKES TO MODIFY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY 8.1.11.1 IN ORDER TO INCREASE MAXIMUM ALLOWED RESIDENTIAL UNITS FROM 999 TO 1286 FOR BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS

OF FACT AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> THAT'S A FIRST.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> I'VE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND, AND NOW WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. DR. HILSENBECK.

>> I HAD VOTED AGAINST THIS THE LAST TIME FOR THE TRANSMITTAL, AND I'LL PROBABLY VOTE AGAINST IT AGAIN. I DO THANK NR LANCASTER FOR MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND I THINK YOU DID ALLAY A LOT OF FEARS BECAUSE I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE HAD 55 LETTERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF PEOPLE WITHIN BANNON LAKES AND MARKLAND AND OTHER AREAS RIGHT ADJACENT TO IT THAT WERE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS, SO YOU MUST HAVE ALLAYED SOME FEARS AND CALMED PEOPLE DOWN, BUT EVEN THOUGH THOSE OF US THAT SIT ON THIS BOARD ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE ARE APPOINTED BY THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ELECTED. WE'RE DIRECTLY APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. SO I FEEL THAT WE HAVE SOME DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO ADDRESS CITIZENS' CONCERNS AND THEIR NEEDS CONCERNING QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND I DO, AS A PERSON WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND HAS BEEN COMING TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY -- ST. AUGUSTINE SINCE I WAS PROBABLY 11 OR 12 YEARS OLD, AND MY WIFE'S A NATIVE OF ST. AUGUSTINE, I JUST FEEL THAT WE HAVE A DUTY TO PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

I THINK ST. AUGUSTINE IS LOSING SOME OF ITS AMBIENCE AND CHARACTER AND CHARM BY THESE CONTINUING DEVELOPMENTS, AND I THINK THERE'S A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE, GROWING NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT ARE AGAINST -- THAT ARE DISPLEASED, SHOULD I SAY, WITH THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY, AND I THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND ADDRESS IT.

AS I'VE TOLD ELLEN AVERY-SMITH ON THE PHONE PREVIOUSLY, I FEEL I REPRESENT A CONSTITUENCY THAT IS -- DEAR EVER THEY'RE NOT WITH THE GROWTH, RAPID GROWTH THAT IS OCCURRING IN THIS COUNTY, AND THEY SHOULD BE HEARI BELIEVE THEIR CONCERNS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DID, BUT YOU WENT FROM 55 PEOPLE OPPOSED TO ONLY A FEW SPEAKING, SO I THINK THAT'S ADMIRABLE. BUT I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.

287 ADDITIONAL UNITS, APARTMENT COMPLEXION, PEOPLE IN THE PAST SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS COULD BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AREA OF BANNON LAKES, BUT THAT FEAR SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN ALLEVIATED. THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST THE AGENCY MEMBERS? HEARING NONE, LET'S VOTE. THAT ITEM PASSES 4-1. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER

4 AND WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2020-02 BANNON LAKES PUD AND MAJOR MODIFICATION OF BANNON LAKES PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXT 2015-11 AS AMENDED AS A COMPANION APPLICATION TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMOUNTED PTD COMP PLAN

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AMENDMENT 2020-03 BASED ON SIX FINDINGS OF FACT. >> I HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS HEARING NONE, LET'S VOTE. THAT PASSES 4-1.

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MS. AZEVEDO, ARE YOU READY? AZ ACEVEDO, ARE YOU READY? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SHANNON HAN FOR THE RECORD 7 WALDO STREET, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. THIS IS FOR THE STATE ROAD 16 CAR CONDOS PROJECT, AND I WILL PRESENT THIS PRESENTATION FOR BOTH THE PUD APPLICATION AS WELL AS THE SMALL SCALE LAND USE AMENDMENT. I'M WITH PLANNING, OBVIOUSLY& MY CLIENT IS HERE. THE OWNER IS TONY GORRIA AND JAMES CARTER.

SO TO ORIENT YOU, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 5.74-ACRE SITE. IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STATE ROAD 16 KIND OF IN BETWEEN ST. FRANCIS ROAD AND INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY.

AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS OR, AS YOU CAN SEE. THE AREA IS MOSTLY PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH AND WEST. YOU HAVE A LOT OF LARGER DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER, PALM LAKES. AND WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO IS A SMALL PUD FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

ALONG WITH THIS PUD, THIS IS CURRENTLY IN RURAL SILVICULTURE, SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO AMEND THIS LAND USE TO MIXED USE, AND ALONG WITH THAT, WE ARE LIMITING WITH THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND THAT LIMITATION WOULD BE FOR A TOTAL OF 79,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S SOME MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WITH THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST FOR ANOTHER COMMERCIAL SMALL SCALE PUD. AND SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A GENERAL SUMMARY, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTL VACANT 5.74 ACRES. THERE'S ABOUT 667 LINEAR FEET ALONG STATE ROAD 16, AND AN AVERAGE DEPTH OF ABOUT 380 FEET JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE DIMENSIONS THERE. AND WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO IS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY -- I KNOW IN THE PUDS YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERAL AND YOU'LL SEE IF YOU HAVE READ THROUGH OUR PROPOSED MDP TEXT OF THE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT WHAT'S MOTIVATING THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS PRIVATE GARAGE CONDOMINIUMS, WHICH ARE THE AREAS THAT YOU SEE THERE IN ORANGE, AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS HIGH-END GARAGES FOR PERSONAL VEHICLES.

THERE WILL BE AN OFFICE AREA. THERE WILL BE SECURITY ON-SITE. SO IT'S REALLY A KIND OF HIGH-END DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS MODEL FOR THE STORAGE OF VEHICLES.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT 24,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, AND THAT'S THE AREA YOU CAN SEE IN RED. THIS JUST SHOWS YOU KIND OF A SAMPLE FORMAT OF HOW THAT COULD BE DIVIDED UP, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE MORE RETAIL PORTION FRONTING STATE ROAD 16 WITH THE LESSER COMMERCIAL KIND OF TOWARDS THE BACK.

THERE IS A MINIMUM 25% OPEN SPACE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THRAIRT FOOT SCENIC EDGE LONGER STATE ROAD 16, AND A 25 TO 35-FOOT DEVELOPMENT EDGE, SO WE DO HAVE 35 FEET ON EITHER SIDE.

WE ARE ASKING, AS YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN IN THE PUD, FOR A WAIVER TO ALLOW 25 FEET ON THE SOUTH BECAUSE OF THE SHALLOWNESS OF THE PROPERTY AND HOW IT WORKS MOST EFFICIENTLY.

AND THERE ARE TWO ACCESS POINTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FROM STATE ROAD 16 AS YOU CAN SEE.

SO JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT, THIS KIND OF SHOWS IT WELL.

IT IS WITHIN, AS YOU CAN SEE, A VERY DEVELOPED. AREA OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

IT'S ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY, EXTENSION OF MIXED USE TO BE APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND ENTITLEMENTS SURROUNDING THE AREA, AND MIXED USE REALLY AFFORDS THE MOST

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WE HAVE KIND OF AN INCREMENTAL SITE OF LESS THAN 6 ACRES. ONCE YOU THROW IN YOUR SCENIC EDGES AND DEVELOPMENT EDGES, IT REALLY DOES GET A LITTLE BIT CONSTRAINED, SO THAT MIXED USE HELPS TO MAKE FOR AN EFFICIENT AND COMPATIBLE DESIGN, WHILE ALSO WITH A TEXTED AMENDMENT LIMITING IT SO IT DOESN'T GO TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE ALLOWABLE UNDER THE MIXED USE DESIGNATION. AND WE DO SEE THAT THERE IS A DEMAND FOR COMMERCIAL IN THIS TYPE OF SPECIALIZED PRIVATE STORAGE. THERE'S A GROWING NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF. OVER 4,000 DWELLING UNITS ALONG AMONG THE WORLD COMMERCE CENTER. THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS AND SUBDIVISIONS AROUND THE AREA. DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SMALL PARCEL CAN REACT PRETTY NIMBLY TO THE MARKET SINCE IT IS SMALL.& IT'S NOT WITHIN A LARGE DRI SO IT CAN ACT A LITTLE BIT FASTER IN TERMS OF RESPONDING TO THOSE MARKET CHANGES.

AND IN TERMS OF IMPACTS, I DID WANT TO MENTION OBVIOUSLY IT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO STATE ROAD 16 SO THERE'S NO EXTENSION OF ROADWAYS NEEDED. THERE'S UTILITIES, AVAILABILITY WITHIN THE AREA. THIS MORGUES OF STATE ROAD 16 IS CURRENTLY I DON'T EVER COMMITTED FOR TRAFFIC CAPACITY, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT THERE ARE PLANS OF FOUR-LANING STATE ROADIN' 16 INCLUDING STATE R. THERE ARE ALSO INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PRIORITY USED THE A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTHEAST AT THE INTERSECTION OF I-95 AND STATE ROAD 16. SO IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITIES ANALYSIS, LOOKING KIND OF AT A MORE NARROW VIEW NOW, WE SEE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. IT'S A LARGE ST. JOHNS COUNTY SITE OF ABOUT 390 ACRES TO THE SOUTH. TO THE WEST, AS I MENTIONED, IS AN END TIEMENTD COMMERCIAL PUD. IT IS FOR SELF-STORAGE AND OTHER COMMERCIAL USES.

TO THE NORTH YOU HAVE THE VETERANS NURSING HOME. THERE'S ALSO A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TO THE BACK HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE. AND THEN TO THE EAST IS A BUILDING SUPPLIES FENCE COMPANY. SO ONCE YOU KIND OF PUT IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT EDGES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERING THAT HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY BETWEEN THE AREAS WHERE THERE IS DEVELOPMENT. TO THE SOUTH IS VACANT. AND THEN YOUR SCENIC EDGE TO HAVE THOSE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS ALONG STATE ROAD 16.

SO JUST GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL -- I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH HERE -- BUT I DO HAVE TO APOLOGIZE AND CLEAR THE RECORD HERE. THE ISR MAXED MUM IS 75%, NOT 70%. THAT WAS AN ERROR, SO I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT ON THE RECORD.

THAT'S TYPICAL FOR MIXED USE AND IT'S ALSO TYPICAL TO HAVE A 25% MINIMUM OPEN SPACE IN PUDS REGARDLESS OF WHAT CATEGORIES OF LAND USE THEY'RE IN. SETBACKS LBT AT A WILL BE AT T 20 FEET ON ALL SIDES. MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET. AND THE USES THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE ARE THOSE WITHIN COMMERCIAL GENERAL, ALTHOUGH, AS I MENTIONED, THIS UPSCALE CAR GARAGE IS SORT OF WHAT'S MOTIVATING THIS, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE GENERAL PLAN TO HAVE AN AMENITY CENTER KIND OF TOWARDS THE MIDDLE THERE THAT WOULD BE A CLUBHOUSE, COULD BE CONCIERGE SERVICES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FOR THE CUSTOMERS. WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING UNDERGROUND STORM WATER RETENTION. I DO HAVE TO SAY THERE HAS NOT BEEN PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ON THIS SITE YET, SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THOSE NUMBERS WILL LINE UP, BUT WE DID WRITE INTO THE PUD TEXTED THAT IF UNDERGROUND STORM WATER WAS NOT AN OPTION FOR US, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR REGULAR RETENTION AS WELL.

AND THEN LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS WE ARE LOOKING AT A RECREATION TRAILS.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT WOULD TIE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT ONCE IT'S -- IT COMES TO FRUITION TO THE WEST. SO IN SUMMARY, THIS REQUEST IS SUITABLE FOR MIXED USE WITH A TEXT AMENDMENT LIMENTING THE DEVELOPMENT TO 79,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE PROPOSED USE AND PUD REZONING IS COMPAT YOU WILL BE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS WITHIN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY AS WELL AS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND AGENCY REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO WE REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF THE SMALL SCALE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND PUD. I STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. AND AS I MENTIONED AS IY

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CLIENT IS HERE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM. >> BEFORE WE GO TO THE AGENCY QUESTIONS, WANE I WANT TO ASF THERE ITEM 6 IF --

NOW WE'RE READY FOR QUESTIONS. DR. HILSENBECK. >> SHANNON, YOU HAVE NICE BUFFERS ON THE EAST AND THE WEST OR THE SOUTHEAST AND NORTHWEST, REALLY, BUT TO THE SOUTH THERE OR SOUTHWEST WHERE THIS DIRECTLY ABUTS THE RECREATION, OPEN SPACE, FUTURE PARK, ST. JOHNS COUNTY PARK YOUR BUFFER IS NARROWER THERE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU ENHANCE THAT BUFFER THAT IS CONTIGUOUS WITH THE OPEN SPACE RECREATIONAL PARK SPACE RIGHT THERE. I THINK THAT'S PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BUFFERING IT ON THE EAST AND WEST TO BUFFER OTHER FUTURE BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT COME IN.

I'D RATHER HAVE THAT OPEN SPACE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTED, BUT THAT'S MY ONLY REAL COMMENT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM AGENCY MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO

THAT, SHANNON? >> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER AND LOOK INTO. IS YOUR CONCERN MORE ABOUT THE WIDTH OR THE ACTUAL, THE

PERFORMANCE STANARD OF THE BE LANDSCAPING ITSELF? >> IT'S THE ACTUAL WIDTH OF THE BUFFER. IT WAS NARROWER ALONG THAT SOUTHERN EDGE THAT DIRECTLY ABUTS THAT OPEN SPACE, PARK SPACE, AND I I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT BUFFER BE WIDER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT SORTS OF USES ARE PLANNED FOR THAT. IS IT GOING TO BE PRIMITIVE? IS IT GOING TO BE MANY KANG OUT THERE, HIKING, BIRD WATCHING? ARE THERE GOING TO BE ACTIVE RECREATIONAL BALL FIELDS? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. MAYBE STAFF COULD ADDRESS THAT.

BUT IF IT IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A NATURE TYPE EXPERIENCE OUT THERE, I'D JUST LIKE IT TO BE THOSE USES FOR THE PUBLIC BE BUFFERED A BIT MORE FROM THE CAR CONDOS.

>> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN COMMIT TO THIS SECOND BUT

I'LL CERTAINLY. >> YOU PROBABLY CAN'T. >> I'LL DEFINITELY DISCUSS THAT

WITH MY CLIENT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, LET'S GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? AND DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THE PHONE?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY. WE ARE BACK INTO THE AGENCY FOR

A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 5. >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CPA SS2019-06 STATE ROATD 16

CAR CONDOS BASED ON FOUR FINDINGS OF FACT. >> WE'VE GOT A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> OKAY.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING MON, LET'S CALL THE VOTE. FIVE YEAS, THAT'S APPROVED. LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 6.

>> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PUD 2019-09 STATE ROAD 16 CAR CONDOS, BASED ON NINE FINDINGS

OF FACT AS LISTED IN THE STAFF >> THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WE DID LAST TIME BUT IT'S

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CASE. >> BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ARE BASICALLY REZONINGS, MAJOR MODIFICATIONS OR REZONINGS TO THE PUD ZONING, AND THEY ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.

THAT MEANS THE DECISION OF THE PZA AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MUST BE BASED ON COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN TO PROVE THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WFT POLITICAL COMP LAN POLICIES AND LAND CODE DEVELOPMENT SECTIONS. THAT EVIDENCE COMPETENCE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE MUST BE FACT-BASED, MATERIAL, RELIABLE, AND THAT WHICH TENDS TO PROVE THE POINT MADE.

CITIZEN TESTIMONY IS PERMISSIBLE AS LONG AS IT IS FACT-BASED. GENERAL STATEMENTS OF OPPOSITION OR OPINION IS NOT CRDZ COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. NOT CONSIDERED.

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>> THANK YOU, CHRISTINE. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE TO DECLARE FOR ITEMS 7 AND 8? IS NO EX PARTE. SO WE ARE READY FOR

MS. WHITTINGTON'S PRESENTATION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, PZA. MY NAME IS KATHRYN WHITTINGTON AND A DRESS IS 236 SAN MARCO AVENUE SARATOGA 320840 HERE REPRESENTING THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF THE ST. JOHNS DRI IN BOTH OF THESE PUDS SCHSES SJ LAND SOCIETIES LLC AND I.T.

LAND SOCIETIES LLC. HERE WITH ME TODAY IS WITH FLETCHER DAVIS, THE MASTER -- THEY ARE THE MANAGING COMPANY FOR NAFORT DEVELOPER, DOUG DAVIS AND VANESSA CUNNINGHAM AND WITH YOUR PROJECT ENGINEER KIMLEY-HORN & ASSOCIATES IS BILL SCHILG.

FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR PROFESSIONAL REVIEW AND STAFF REPORT, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION, WE'D LIKE TO DO BOTH OF THESE APPLICATIONS IN ONE

PRESENTATION. >> PLEASE. >> FOR EFFICIENCY.

SO TO ORIENT YOU, THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE THE ST. JOHNS DRIVMENT . SO THIS IS THE INTERCHANGE PARCELS PUD RIGHT THERE. IT'S MADE UP OF THE THREE QUADRANT, THE NORTHEAST, WE CALL IT NEQ, THE SOUTHEAST CAUD HAVEN'T SEQ AND THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT SWQ, AND THEN TO THE SOUTH AND WEST IS THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD. INCLUDED THAT THAT IS THE PURN TURNBULL CREEK PRAR SELL HA THANK HAS LONG AGO BEEN CONVEYED OVER TO THE COUNTY.

THIS IS FUTURE LAND USE MAP. YOU SEE THE THREE QUADRANTS OF THE INTERCHANGE, AND THE SIX MILE CREEK. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THEY ARE IN BLUE.

THAT DESIGNATES THE AGE. THIS IS VERY OLD DRI. IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROVED IN 1986 AND WAS REVAMPED IN ITS PRESENT FORM IN 1991, SO ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO OTHER BLUE ONES IN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WITH THIS DESIGNATION SCHS DRI.

AND THAT IS CABAL ODELL MAR AND JULINGTONN. CABALO, DEL MAR AND JIEWLGSON.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START AT THE TIME ST. JOHNS PARCELS PUD. WE FOR SHORT CALL AT THIS TIME INTERCHANGE PUD SO YOU WILL PROBE HEAR ME SAY THAT. THESIS TWO APPLICATIONS TO MODIFY BOTH OF THESE PUDS THAT ARE IN THE DRI ARE COMPANIONS BECAUSE WE ARE PRIMARILY DOING SOME HOUSEKEEPING AND DOING A LOT OF TRANSFERS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO PUDS FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. SO WE'RE GOING START WITH THE INTERCHANGE TRACT.

THERE ARE BASICALLY SIX CHALLENGES THAT ARE REQUESTED. THE FIRST -- CHALLENGES THAT ARE REQUESTED. THE FIRST TO INCORPORATE LAND USE QUEASTLES EXCHANGES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE AND THERE IS NO PROS FOR THAT. JUST ELECT TO DO THEM UNDER THE APPROVED LAND USE EXCHANGE TABLE OF THE DRI. SO WE'RE UPDATING THOSE NUMBERS.

WE ARE MOVING FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT MORE IN A MINUTE. FROM THIS PUD TO THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD. AND THEN WE ARE INCORPORATING THE LEGISLATIVE EXTENSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED TO THE DATES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE THAT THERE ARE NO DEVELOPMENT, NEW DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS PROPOSED. THESE ARE EXISTING, ALREADY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS JUST BEING TRANSFERRED FROM ONE TO THE OTHER, SPECIFICALLY FROM INTERCHANGE TO SIX MILE CREEK TO MAKE THOSE COMMERCIAL PARCELS MORE MARKETABLE IN SIX MILE CREEK.

THIS SHOWS YOU SOME MORE OF THE CLEANUP ITEMS. THE COUNTY HAS ASKED US TO, OUT OF OUR BUCKET OF APPROVED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, TO ALLOCATE 14,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE SLAMMER AND THE SQUIRE BECAUSE IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

AND THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE CONVENTION CENTER AS WELL, THERE ARE PUBLIC EVENTS BEING HELD, SO WE'VE TAKEN -- THEY'VE ASKED TO US TAKE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OUT OF OUR APPROVED RIGHTS UNDER THE DRI AND ALLOCATE THEM AS YOU SEE THERE. ANOTHER CLEANUP IS THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS HERE ON PARCEL 12. FOR FLEXIBILITY, THEY'RE

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NOW, THE LAST TWO ARE IN THE INTERCHANGE NORTHEAST QUADRANT. AND PARCEL 15 WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW IN YOU JUST A SECOND, WE'RE ASKING TO A ALLOW UP TO 250 OF THE ALREADY EXISTING APPROVED UNITS TOBY CONSTRUCTED AS MUMENTS FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY AGE RESTRICTED.

RIGHT NOW THAT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS OFFICE. THE SECOND THING IS CHANGE TO THE MULTI-FAMILY PARNLG REQUIREMENTS IN THIS PUD. -- PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S AS I MENTIONED VERY OLD. AND IT WAS APPROVED WITH PARKING AT TWO UNITS PER -- OR TWO SPACES PER UNIT. TODAY'S CODE ALLOWS IT A LITTLE BIT LESS, SO WE'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THAT TO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TODAY.

SO HERE THIS SHOWS YOU WHERE PARCEL 15 IS IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT RIGHT THERE, AND IF YOU COME OUT HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE PIECE RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS THE REMAINDER OF THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT. THIS IS CALLED PARKLAND PRESERVE. AND THESE ARE COMMERCIAL PARCELS, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK IN THIS PARCEL. THIS IS WHERE THE CHANGE WE'RE SEEKING IS.

YOU CAN -- THIS MAP ALSO SHOWS HOW WELL BUFFERED THIS IS. THESE ARE EXISTING PRESERVATION AREAS AND PONDS. SO IT'S VERY WELL BUFFERED FROM -- THIS IS WHERE PARKLAND PRESERVE BEGINS. WHICH YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET.

THIS IS PARCEL 15. APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET FROM PARCEL 15 BOUNDARY TO PARKLAND PRESERVE UNITS IN HERE. SHE'S THAT'S RESIDENTIAL. HERE YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE GROUND TODAY. THAT LAKE I JUST SHOWED YOU IS RIGHT THERE.

AND HERE'S ALL THE PRESERVATION AREA OF PARCEL 15 IS IN HERE. THIS WILL LOOK A LITTLE FAMILIAR. YOU JUST SAW BANNON LAKES HERE A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

BANNON LAKES PUD. HERE'S THE NEQ, NORTHEAST QUADRANT.

IN BETWEEN THEM IS THE GOLF WAY CENTER PUD. IT'S A NON-RESIDENTIAL PUD.

IT'S AN OLD PUD WHICH I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A MINUTE.

THIS IS ALSO CALLED PARKLAND PRESERVE. THIS IS PARCEL 15 RIGHT THERE IN ORANGE. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL RENDERING OF WHAT THE APARTMENTS BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE OR PLANNED TO LOOK LIKE ON PARCEL 15. 15 IS 6.9 ACRES.

AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE GOLF LIFE CENTER PUD ADJACENT. UP HERE IS BANNON LAKES.

THIS SHOWS ALL THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT TO 15. 15, PARK NL PRESERVE.

THESE PHASES 1 AND 2 -- I SHOULD SAY ALL OF PARKLAND PRESERVE IS HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S CLEAR, THE ROADS ARE IN. PHASES 1 AND 2 ARE PLATTED AND CONSTRUCTION, MOSTLY -- AT LEAST PARTIALLY CONSTRUCTED, MOSTLY CONSTRUCTED, WOULD I SAY.

THIS IS BANNON AGAIN, AND HERE'S THIS PARKLAND TRAIL LEADING INTO PARCEL 15.

YOU SEE RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS MARKLAND. YOU SEE RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING IT. THIS IS WORLD GOLF VILLAGE COMPLEX OVER HERE.

THIS IS HERE, THE GOLF WAY CENTER PUD. AND NOW YOU SEE AN UP CLOSE OF IT. THIS IS THE CURRENT AERIAL. THIS IS -- THE GOLF WAY CENTER PUD WAS APPROVED IN ORIGINALLY IN 1997 WITH ALMOST 300,000 OF OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS THE OLD TREE OF LIFE COMPLEX RIGHT HERE.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PARKLAND TRAIL. THIS IS ON THE GROUND TODAY.

THIS IS THE ENTRANCE. IT'S NOT WELL MAINTAINED. HERE YOU SEE AN EMPTY PARKING LOT. HERE IS THE REMAINDER OF THE PUD THAT IS A FIELD.

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YOU SEE A FOUNTAIN IN THE LAKE. ALL THE LANDSCAPING IS MAINTAINED.

OVER HERE IN 2014 YOU SEE NOT MANY CARS IN THAT PARKING LOT. AND YOU DO NOT SEE THE FOUNTAIN ANYMORE. IT'S NOT BEING MAINTAINED. THE GRASS IS GROWING UP.

2016, EVEN STILL YOU DO NOT SEE ANY CARS, ALMOST NO CARS. AND THEN THE RECENT ONE, 2020, AGAIN, VERY FEW CARS, AND YOU SEE -- YOU CAN'T SEE THE POND VERY WELL, BUT IT'S NOT WELL MAINTAINED. THESE ARE THE ANALYTICS SHOW WITHIN ONE MILE THIS INTERSECTION OF IGP AND WORLD GOLF VILLAGE BOULEVARD THERE'S AN INVENTORY OF 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE. NONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH A VACANCY RATE OF 48.3.

SO VACANT OF THAT 300,000 IS 145,000. THIS BAR CHART SHOWS IT WOULD HAVE GONE FURTHER IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT INFORMATION, BUT YOU SEE IT START GOING UP IN 2011? 2014, UP, UP MORE, AND STILL HIGH, SO IT'S BEEN CONSISTENTLY HIGH AT PRESENT DAY 48.3%, WHICH DEMONSTRATES THE MARKET HAS SERIOUSLY CHANGED SINCE 30 YEARS AGO WHEN THIS PARCEL WAS APPROVED FOR OFFICE DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S -- THE DEMAND IS VERY LOW. HOWEVER, DEMAND IS VERY HIGH FOR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.

OKAY. THIS SHOWS YOU AT THE SIGNAL THAT THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAS CONSTRUCTED, IT'S BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND IT PROVIDES BETTER SAFE AND EFFICIENT ACCESS TO THE NEQ AND SEQ, SO IT IS OPERATIONAL TODAY. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD, THE COMPANION. AND TO ORIENT YOU, THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF SIX MILE CREEK PUD, WEST SIX MILE CREEK WEST, SIX MILE CREEK NORTH, THIS BIG AREA IN HERE WHICH IS PRIMARILY WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED ON TODAY. CENTRAL HERE. SOUTH HERE.

YOU HAD THE APPLICATION COME BEFORE YOU TWO WEEKS AGO, A MONTH AGO.

THAT'S TRAIL MARK. THEY ADDED SOME LAND AND SPREAD TOM DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.

OKAY. THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO THE TO THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD AND DOING SOME MORE HOUSEKEEPING. FIRST.

, THE COUNTY HAS ASKED US TO ALLOCATE OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BUCKET 18,362 SQUARE FEET FOR THE KING AND THE BEAR CLUBHOUSE BECAUSE THEY ARE ALLOWING SOME PUBLIC EVENTS LIKE WEDDINGS. IT NEVER WAS CLASSIFIED AS COMMERCIAL BEFORE BUT NOW THEY'VE ASKED US TO GIVE UP THOSE RIGHTS FOR IT. ON PARCEL 6 THERE WERE 15,000 SQUARE FETAL CATED, BUT 1,350 SQUARE FEET WERE NEVER BUILT, AND THE SAME IS TRUE ON PARCEL 9. THIS WAS FOR A LITTLE RETAIL CONVENIENCE TYPE IS STORE.

IT WAS NEVER BUILT. SO WE'RE CLEANING THOSE ALLOCATIONS UP.

THEN THEN WE MOVE TO THE FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THIS IS A RECONCILIATION OF THE PUDS RESULTING FROM IN 2007 WE MOVED 77 UNITS FROM SIX MILE CREEK PUD OVER TO THE INTERCHANGE TRACK, AND FIVE OF THOSE WERE TOO MANY, SO IT WAS AN ERROR.

WE'RE MOVING THEM BACK WHERE THEY BELONG. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS -- I'VE LOST MY POINTER -- 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL TO SIX MILE CREEK NORTH, PARCELS 1 AND 2. AND HERE THIS SHOWS YOU WHERE THIS IS ALL HAPPENING.

THE 6,000 IS COMING FROM HERE ON THE RETAIL CENTER THAT WAS NEVER BUILT.

THIS -- THIS 1350, IT WAS FOR SPA AND POOL. THE SPA AND POOL WAS BUILT BUT NOT 1350 EXTRA. HERE'S THE 18362 THAT'S GOING HERE.

HERE IS PARCELS 1 AND 2. THE TWO AND ONLY TWO COMMERCIAL PARCELS THAT WERE EVER DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL, AND THEY'VE BEEN DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL SINCE THE ONSET, SINCE THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL 30 YEARS AGO. PARCELS 1 AND 2 ARE ROUGHLY

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WITH COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES ALLOWABLE. ANY OTHER PARCEL IN THE COUNTY, THE COMP PLAN THAT'S COMMERCIAL GENERAL, THE COMP PLAN ALLOWS 12,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE.

THIS ALLOCATION 30 YEARS AGO IS 6,600 PER ACRE. AND IF YOU TAKE OUT THIS 18,000 THAT WE'RE LOSING, IT COMES DOWN TO 5,500 PER ACRE. AND SO THAT RENDERS AND HAS RENDERED THESE PARCELS UNMARTIALABLE FOR YEARS, -- UNMARKETABLE FOR YEARS AND YEARS ON THIS AMOUNT OF LAND, 6,600 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE OR EVEN 5,500 IS REALLY HARD TO MARKET THAT. THIS IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAS DEVELOPED, HAS INSTALLED AT THE CORNER OF RICH STREET BOULEVARD AND WASTE POSITA NORKS ROAD AND PA SETY ROAD TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE KING & BEAR. I'M GOING TO ASK BILL SHILLING TO COME UP A LITTLE BIT AND ASK HIM TO TALK ABOUT THE FINAL REQUEST WITH S. A POTENTIAL FUTURE DRIVEWAY MAY EVER GET CONSTRUCTED, IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET CONSTRUCTED, BUT IF IT'S EVER TO BE CONSTRUCTED, IT HAD TON SHOWN ON MAP HB BECAUSE IT IS A NEW ACCESS.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK BILL TO COME UP. BILL ALREADY DID COME UP.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERS. I'M BILL SHILLING.

I'LL A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH KIMLEY-HORN EXPS ASSOCIATES.

ADDRESS IS 12740 GRAN BAY PARKWAY WEST SUITE 2350, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32258.

AND I'LL START WITH THE ACCESS, THAT IS BEING REQUESTED, AND AS MS. WHITTINGTON SAID, THE REQUEST IS TO ADD THIS AREA FOR A POTENTIAL FUTURE ACCESS CONNECTION ON TO MAP H SO THAT IF A FUTURE DEVELOPER OF THIS PARCEL 1 WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY, WHILE WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT IT IS FOR CERTAIN, BUT IF THEY WROA LIKE TO HAVE THE WOULE ABILITY TO CRUBLGHT A DRIVEWAY FROM THAT LOCATION FROM POSITI ROAD THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK FOR A HEARING. A COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT, NUMBER ONE, I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE F PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I THINK WERE SUBMITTED THAT REFERENCE THIS HAD DRIVEWAY BEING ALIGNED WITH TOUR AND TARIFFS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT COUNTY STAFF HAVE SPECIFICALLY ASKED US TO NOT HAVE THIS DRIVEWAY ALIGNED THE TURIN TERRACE, SO ON THE MAP IT IS SHOWN FURTHER TO THE SOUTH RIGHT HERE. THIS IS TURIN TERRACE RIGHT HERE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE COUNTY STAFF HAVE ASKED THAT THIS DRIVEWAY BE WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE RAISED MEDIAN SO THAT IT WILL BE RESTRICTED TO RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ONLY, AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AND ARE COMMITTING TO THAT IF WITH WE HAVE SLOWER THAN THE ARROW WHERE IT IS. -- SHOWN THE ARROW WHERE IT IS.

IN ADDITION THE TURN LANE LENGTH AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF ACTUAL TURN LANE, IF THE DEVELOPER WERE TO OPT TO PURSUE CONSTRUCTING THAT IN THE FUTURE, WOULD COMPLY WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SO WANTED TO ADD THOSE COUPLE OF ITEMS. I'M GOING TO HIT -- BECAUSE KNOW SEVERAL FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE RAISED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND I WANTED TO TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO CLOSE OUT TO JUST TALK ABOUT BIG PICTURE TRAFFIC AND THE DRI AND WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR THIS AREA AND WHAT IT'S COMMITTED TO DO. AND SO BHAI WHAT I WOULD SHAS UNLIKE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROJECTS IN THE AREA THAT ARE EXEMPT FROM TRAFFIC CONCURRENCY REVIEW TODAY OR OTHER SMALLER PROJECTS THAT DID NOT GO THROUGH THE DRI REVIEW PROCESS, DID NOT GO THROUGH AS RIGOROUS A PROCESS THAT THIS PROJECT HAS, AND THIS PROJECT HAS COMMITTED MAJOR DOLLARS TO TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA BEGINNING WITH THE INTERCHANGE.

SO THE INTERCHANGE AT INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARK AND I-95 WAS PRIVATELY.

FUNDED AND CONSTRUCTED BY THIS DEVELOPER, ULTIMATE MALT OPENING THIS AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT AND FOR THE VISION OF WHAT THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAD AT THAT TIME OF WHAT WORLD GOLF VILLAGE WOULD BECOME. AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND THE CONDITIONS THAT

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I KNOW MS. WHITTINGTON COVERED A COUPLE OF THEM. ONE IS THE RECENT SIGNALIZATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED COMPLETED AT INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY AND PARKLAND TRAIL, CENTER PLACE WAY AS WELL AS THE NEW SIGNAL AT REGISTRY BOULEVARD AND POSITI ROAD.

SO IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS RIGHT NOW THE DRI IS ABOUT 45% COMPLETE AND WE'RE PACING ROUGHERLY ON THE TRIPS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING JERCHTD BY THE OVERALL PROJECTS.

THAT INCLUDES INTERCHANGE AND SIX MILE CREEK SOUTH. WHY IS THAT SNORN BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE DRI NOT IS FINISHED WITH ITS TRANSPORTATION COMMITMENTS THAT WERE MADE AS A PART OF THE APPROVALS, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL FUTURE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT THIS PROJECT IS STILL, I WOULD USE THE WORD, ON THE HOOK FOR FOR LACK BETTER TERMS THAT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY, ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENT TO POSUTI ROD, STATE ROAD 16, COUNTY ROAD, AND ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS VERY UNIQUE ABOUT THIS DRI AS THIS PROJECT AND IN THIS AREA IS THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO DO MONITORING OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC LEVELS IN THE THIS AREA EVERY TWO YEARS. AND YOU'LL HEAR IT REFERENCED TO COMMONLY WITH DRIS AS BIENNIAL MONITORING. SO THERE ARE BIENNIAL MONITORING PROJECT THAT AGAIN UNLIKE OTHER SMALLER PROJECTS IN THIS AREA, THE DRI MASTER DEVELOPER IS REQUIRED TO GO OUT AND DO COUNTS AND SUBMIT TRAFFIC STUDIES TO COUNTY EVERY TWO YEARS, AND OUT OF THOUGH ANNAL ANALYSES IS A DETERMINING OF WHERE THE DRI STANDS IN RELATION TO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

SO THAT'S BIG PICTURE. DRILLING DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING REQUESTED, ONE IS I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MAKES THE POINT THAT THE EXCHANGE OF USES TO CREATE THE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS BEING DONE VIA AN IMPROVED LAND USE EXCHANGE THAT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER, AND THAT IS BASED ON AN EXCHANGE OF TRIPS.

SO THERE IS A REDUCTION IN INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ON A TRIP BASIS IS EQUIVALENT TO THE INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL USE. SO FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, THE CHANGE WE'RE PROPOSING IS TRAFFIC NEUTRAL, DOES NOT INCREASE NOR DECREASE THE TRAFFIC ACROSS THE ENTIRE DRI, THE ENTIRE PROJECT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT IN THE NORTHEAST QUAD WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING THIS CHANGE TO PARCEL 15 TO GO TO MULTI-FAMILY, THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES IN THE NORTHEAST QUAD THAT ARE ULTIMATELY RESULTING IN LESS TRAFFIC BEING GENERATED OUT OF THIS QUADRANT OF THE DRI, AND THE COUPLE OF ITEMS ARE, ONE, PARKLAND PRESERVE, WHICH IS JUST UNDER 400 TOTAL UNITS OF AGE-RESTRICTED, WHICH IS ON PARCELS 1 THROUGH 8. THAT ORIGINALLY, THOSE PARCELS WERE ALL ORIGINALLY APPROVED AS OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL, AND THAT IS AGE-RESTRICTED COMMUNITY IS GENERATING AND GOING TO BE GENERATING FAR FEWER TRIPS ON A DAILY AND PEAK OUR BASIS THAN THE ROUGHLY 100 ACRES OF OFFICE AND INDUSTRIAL WOULD HAVE GENERATED. ADDITIONALLY, THE DOT HAS ACQUIRED TWO POND SITES, ONE HERE ON PARCEL 10.1 AND ONE UP HERE ON PORTIONS OF PARCEL 3, THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED AS PONDS AND STORM WATER FOR THE DOT'S WIDENING IMPROVEMENTS TO I-95. SO ESSENTIALLY THOSE PONDS ARE TAKING UPND UPLAND AREA OUT F DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN RESULTING IN FEWER REDUCTION OF TRIPS UP IN THE INTERCHANGE AREA.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HIT THOSE. I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF ON THE POINT. SO TALKING ABOUT THE SIX MILE CREEK, AND WE'LL FOCUS IN THERE, SO AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, WE ARE RELOCATING 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES FROM THE INTERCHANGE PARCELS TO SIX MILE CREEK. AND AGAIN, ACROSS THE ENTIRE DRI IT DOES NOT RESULT IN ANY INCREASE IN ENTITLEMENT. IT'S JUST A RELOCATION.

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LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE, COMMERCIAL GENERAL UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES PER ACRE. CERTAINLY THIS AREA HAS A MIX OF USES AND COULD PECIALY BE EVEN HIGHER 12,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. ALSO, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO THE COMP PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR GUIDANCE, AND I REALIZED THAT I GOT MY NUMBERS INVERTED HERE, IT'S ACTUALLY POLICY 8.2.1A NOT A. 1. A SO THAT POLICY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS ROUGH WILL 112 SQUARE FEET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES PER HOME IN THE NORTHWEST SECTOR TO PROVIDE A GOOD DIVERSITY OF USES ACROSS THE SECTOR.

AND RIGHT NOW IN SIX MILE CREEK AS IT STANDS TODAY WE'RE AT ROUGHLY 31 SQUARE FEET SO WE'RE SEEING THAT AS A LITTLE BIT LOW AND THAT'S SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST.

AND CERTAINLY, AND WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE, BUT IT WILL PROVIDE FOR A BETTER MIXES OF USES. AND AGAIN, IT MOVES THE THOSE COMMERCIAL USES FROM THE INTERCHANGE CLOSER TO THESE HOMES AT MURA BELLA AND RESIDENCE AND KING & BEAR AND RESIDENTS OF SIX MILE CREEK, AS WELL, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS HAVE REFERENCED THE SCHOOL, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT MILL CREEK ACADEMY IS JUST DOWN THE STREETS FROM HERE.

AGAIN BE WE SEE THE DEFINITE OF THIS USE BEING COMMERCIAL IN THAT COMMERCIAL TYPICALLY PEAKS AT DIFFERENT TIMES TRAFFIC-WISE THAN SCHOOLS. SO THE COMMERCIAL WILL TYPICALLY PEAK AROUND LUNCHTIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE OUT RUNNING ERRANDS AND PICKING UP LUNCH, AND THEN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON AND THE P.M. PEAK HOUR, WHEREAS THE SCHOOL HAS A MUCH HEAVIER HAMM PEAK AND THEN MID--DAY DURING PICKUP. WITH THAT, THAT FINISHES OUR

PRESENTATION. >> COULD I GET YOU TO GO BACK TO THAT FORMER SLIDE, THAT FIRST BULLET POINT. THE COMP PLAN GOAL OF 112 SQUARE FEET PER HOME TIMES 4,805 HOMES WOULD PUT -- WHAT IS THE COMP PLAN SCIRNLGING AT WHAT NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET IN.

>> AT ROUGHLY 538. >> AND WE'RE A FOR 351,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE QUESTION SLIDE NOW. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS AND I THINK A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THESE APPLICATIONS ARE DOING.

WE'VE SEEN COMMENT AFTER COMMENT LETTER COME IN SAYING, IT'S TO APPROVE LDS AND MINNIE WAREHOUSE STORAGE FACILITY. IT IS NOT. IT IS MERELY A TRANSFER OF THE COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. THE MASTER DEVELOPER WAS PRESENTED WITH TWO CONCEPTUAL PLANS BY THE CONTRACT PURCHASER. ONE WAS ADD LD ANDS THE OTHER ONE WHICH I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL FOR, IS A MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE FACILITY. HOWEVER, WHICH I HAVE CONFIRMED WITH FREES A BISHOP AND I HAVE MENTION TODAY THAT CONTRACT PURCHASER, THAT MANY -- ALDY'S IS OFF THE TABLE.

NOW IT'S JUST A FILT FACILITY P MAICHTS TO BE APPROVED BY YOU. IT HAS TO BE APPROVED UNDER ITS OWN FREESTANDING APPLICATION, A MINOR MOD APPLICATION WHERE YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING THING LIKE COMPATIBILITY WITH CHARACTER, NOISE, POLLUTION, ET CETERA. SO THIS IS NOT APPROVING THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION OUT THERE WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THAT. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DR. HILSENBECK. >> I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THAT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE AND EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATION, VERY

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PARTICULARLY. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER AGENCY MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHAT ARE THE COMMERCIAL USES

THAT ARE ALLOWED? JUST WHATEVER ISAL LOUDON CD. >> BOTH COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL, COMMERCIAL GENERAL BEING THE HIGHER CATEGORY.

>> AND YOU SAID THAT 12 UNITS PER AREA,, 12,000 SQUARE FEET PER ACRE IS SORT OF THE GUIDELINES. BY MY CALCULATION, AREN'T WE -- ARE WE SUGGESTING WE'RE GOING TO

PUT 311,638 ON THIS 19.7 ACRES? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? >> THE TOTAL WE WERE REQUESTING IS TO BRING THE 200 AND ADD IT TO THE 151 THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED.

WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS OVER 12,000 PERRY ACRE BUT IT'S NOT -- PER ACRE BUT IT'S NOT OVER MIXED USE DESIGNATION WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH UNLIMITED FOR DESIGNATION.

THAT'S THE NUMBER WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING OVER TO BE SHARED BETWEEN THE TWO COMMERCIAL

PARCELS. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO THEN OPEN IT UP TO SPEAKER'S SPEAKERS. >> WE HAVE SEVERAL.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. DAVID PEPPER.

>> MY NAME IS DAVID PEPPER. I LIVE RAT 340 OAK RIDGE TRAIL. THAT DIRECTLY ADD ADJOINS THIS PROPERTY. I'M WITHIN THE 300 FEET. I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO DENY THE 200,000 SQUARE FEET FOR 1 AND 2. WHY DO I ASK YOU THAT? FIRST OF ALL, ON PARCEL 1 YOU ALREADY HAVE BUILDINGS THERE RIGHT NOW WHICH I I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ACCOUNTED FOR THAT IN THEIR 200,000 SQUARE FEET. YOU HAVE THE EXPIFNTD ANOTHER BUILDING THAT'S JUST FINISHING CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. THE KINDERGARTEN AND ANOTHER BUILDING THAT'S JUST FINISHING CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. ALSO THIS AREA HAS WETLANDS.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY KIND OF SURVEY ON THESE PROPERTIES ABOUT WET BLEDZ, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH TWETLANDS, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SET ASIDE. THEY BACK UP TO THE PRESERVE THAT IS CALLED MILL CREEK, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MAP. OKAY.

MILL CREEK DRAINS EVERYTHING FROM THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NEW PUBLIX, GREEN-WISE SHOPPING CENTER THAT IS GOING TO BE WILT TO ALL L THAT OTHER DEVELOPMENT.

I PERSONALLY, LIVING ON MILL CREEK, SEE IT FLOOD EVERY TIME IT RAINS, AND THE FLOODING GETS WORSE THE MORE WE CONCRETE IN. THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL AREA. WE HAVE TURKEYS LIVING THERE.

WE HAVE DEER LIVING THERE. AND ANYBODY THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD ALSO SEES A FLORIDA TORTOISE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. WE JUST CAN'T GO WITH MORE AND MORE AND MORE DENSITY. WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH TRAFFIC PROBLEMS HERE.

LIVING IN KING EXPW BEAR, I T ENTRANCE. THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH ACCIDENTS THERE FOR EVERYBODY, AND WE DID FINALLY GET THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL PUT UP.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE DENSITY, ANY MORE CARS ON THAT AREA.

I ALSO WONDER IF WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE COFEESHTS OF FLOW AND FLOW RATES OF WHAT MILL CREEK CAN HANDLE. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WATER MILL CREEK'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE WITHOUT FLOODING MORE AND MORE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON OAK RIDGE TRAIL.

AND I ASK YOU TO FIRST OF ALL CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THERE'S ALREADY BUILDINGS ON NUMBER 1, A PARCEL NUMBER 1. PARCEL NUMBER 1 AND 2 BACK UP TO ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS AND AREAS THAT ARE BEING ASKED TO RECEIVE ALL THE WATER FROM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW MY TIME'S OVER, BUT PLEASE, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE 1 AND 2.

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE] >> NEXT SPEAKER IS DEBBIE

COOPER. >> BEFORE MS. COPER COMES UP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE OUTBURSTS LIKE THAT, PLEASE. YOU CAN COME UP AND GIVE YOUR OPINION BUT WE'RE NO GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE CLAPPING OR CHEERING. THANK YOU.

>> DEB COOPER 2880 OAK GROVE SARATOGA 32092. AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN, AND THE ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE VERY NEAR THESE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, AND ALREADY WE HAVE TRAFFIC BACKED UP AT OUR VISITOR GATE WHEN COMMERCIAL PEOPLE ARE COMING IN TO DO REPAIRS OR THERE ARE VISITORS THAT NEED TO COME INTO THE COMMUNITY AND ARE SCREENED BY OUR SECURITY SERVICE, AND SO THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL DEFINITELY IMPACT THE ABILITY OF US AS RESIDENTS AS WELL AS OUR VISITORS AND THE COMMERCIAL FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS OUR DEVELOPMENT ALREADY. WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE BACKED UP TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, AND BOTH OF THOSE ENTRANCES OFF OF PARCEL 1 FEED INTO REGISTRY BOULEVARD VERY NEAR THE ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I'D LIKE TO, IF POSSIBLE, SOME ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WORK TO BE DONE TO EVALUATE THOSE CONCERNS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS JIM JANSEN.

JIM JANSEN. OKAY. NEXT UP IS ARNOLD SHAHEEN.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY COMMENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN --

>> SIR, CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ARNIL SHAHEEN 44 NORTHAL A TAMAMA STREET.

I'M A RESIDENT OF KING & BEAR. MY COMMENTS WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE LAWYER FOR THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED, WHICH WAS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE RIPE FOR CONSIDERATION BY YOU, AN ALDI'S STORE AND A MULTI-STORY MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSE.

SINCE IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THEY ARE RIPE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS PROCEEDING, IT MAY BE IN THE FUTURE. WHATEVER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT COMES ABOUT ON THESE PARCELS, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY. THE COMMENTS I HAD ARE MOOTED

FOR THE TIME BEING. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> OKAY.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. WILLIAM RIG. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS WILLIAM RIG AND I I LOVE THE 4409 NORTH ALTIMA HIGH STREET ALSO IN THE KING & BEAR SUBDIVISION.

MY COMMENT IS ON THE COUNTY DEVELOPMENTAL MAP. IT DOES SHOW THAT THERE IS A THREE-STORY SELF-STORAGE BUILDING THAT IS UNDERSTAND REVIEW NOW AT THIS TIME.

SO MY COMMENTS ARE CONSIDERING THAT. I AM A FULL-TIME RESIDENT IN THE KING & BEAR, AND I ACTUALLY OWN A STORAGE FACILITY IN VIRGINIA. KEEP IN MIND, MY STORAGE FACILITY HAS 25 SECURITY CAMERAS, A SECURITY FENCE COMPLETELY AROUND ALL OF THE UNITS, AN ELECTRONIC KEYPAD THAT LOCKS EVERY TIME A TENANT COMES IN OR OUT.

WE FEEL AS IF OUR UNITS ARE EXTREMELY SECURE. AND WE ALSO THINK THAT IT INTIMIDATES ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME IN TO STEAL OR CAUSE MISCHIEF.

BUT WE HAVE HAD SOME PROBLEMS. AND I THINK WE CAN EXPECT THE SAME THINGS IF THIS PROCEEDS WITH A THREE-STORY BUILDING, STORAGE BUILDING. WE HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH& PEOPLE LIVING IN THE UNITS, MAJOR TRASH PROBLEMS WHEN THEY MOVE OUT.

WE HAVE BECOME INVOLVED IN DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS BECAUSE OF FIGHTS OVER THE BELONGINGS.

TENANTS VIOLATE THEIR CONTRACTS BY STORING GUNS, HAZARDOUS DMEBLGHTS UNIT THAT WE MUST CONTACT GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FOR DEPOSAL DISPOSAL. WE HAVE HAD ASSAULTS.

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SO AGAIN, TAKING IT FROM SOMEBODY THAT ACTUALLY ZONES A STORAGE FACILITY, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT IS BEING BUILT ON TOP OF THE WORLD FAMOUS KING & BEAR GOLF COURSE, THIS THREE STORY FACILITY IS NOT IN ANYONE'S BEST INTERESTS OTHER THAN THOSE THAT WILL PROFIT FROM IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. RON AUSTIN.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, AGENCY MEMBERS. I'M RON AUSTIN.

I'M AN ATTORNEY. I REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF KING & BEAR PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION. MY ADDRESS IS 1354 NORTH, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA.

WE'RE HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED MAJOR MODIFICATION IN THE SIX MILE CREEK NORTH.

MANY OF THE RESIDENTS OF KING & BEAR ARE HERE TODAY. THEY'RE OPPOSED TO THIS MAJOR ZONING MODIFICATION. BEFORE I GET TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD, I, TOO, WAS PREPARED TO SPEAK IN SOME DEPTH ABOUT THE PROPOSED WHAT SEEMED TO BE A PROPOSED MINI STORAGE WAREHOUSE.

THAT'S A SPECIAL USE. THAT'S NOT ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT. IT'S NOT APPLIED FOR, AT LEAST AS FAR AS WE CAN DISCERN, SO IT SHOULDN'T REALLY BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

WE'RE JUST CONCERNED THAT IT DOESN'T SLIP IN THE BACK DOOR WITHOUT US WHILE WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. ONE OF THE, THE DID TRAFFIC ENGINEER SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT WANTING, THE DEVELOPER WANTING TO GET COMMERCIAL, 2 HAD YOU 2,0 DISOOLINGS SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE ALMOST DOUBLING THE COMMERCIAL SPACE AT THE FRONT GATE OF KING & BEAR AS SOMETHING DESIRABLE. THE RESIDENTS OF KING & BEAR DO NOT WANT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE AT THEIR FRONT GATE, MUCH LET ALONE 200,000, ALMOST DOUBLING IT TO 400,000. AND EVEN IF YOU COULD CONCEIVE THAT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC GENERATED BY ALMOST DOUBLING THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE MIGHT BE WITHIN SOME ACCEPTABLE TRAFFIC STUDIES LIMIT, WE ALL KNOW SITTING HERE THAT TRAFFIC GENERATION IS GOING TO INCREASE EVER SO UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND AROUND THAT ENVIRONMENT. FOR THAT REASON, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS HEIDI RICE.

>> HELLO. I'M HEIDI RICE. I LIFT 2452 DEN STREET IN KING & BEAR, AND ALL I CAN DO IS 100% SUPPORT WHAT THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE HAVE SAID.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT ONE MORE SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT OUR ENTRANCE.

IT'S ALREADY BAD ENOUGH WITH THE TRAFFIC, AND WITH MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT WILL BE COMING IN AND OUT, AND I'VE ALSO SEEN SOME DIAGRAMS WHERE EITHER FROM THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR FROM THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS PROJECTED, THERE HAVE BEEN ROADS THAT GO INTO REGISTRY PAST OUR GUARD GATE, SO THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO AIR AMENITIES AND VARIOUS OTHER PARTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD NOT BE GOING TO THE GUARD GATE, AND I THINK THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THERE'S ALSO MUCH HIGHER RISK OF CRIME AND CERTAINLY OUR PROPERTY VALUES WILL BE GOING DOWN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER MR. JOHN W.

BAILEY JR. >> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JOHN BAILEY. I LIVE AT 2634 JOE ASHTONY ROAD. MY PROPERTY BUTTS UP ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENTS OF ST. JOHNS COUNTY SINCE 1985.

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WHEN I BUILT MY HOUSE, THE FLOOD ZONE WAS AT THE WOODS, AND IT WASN'T A CONCERN TO ME AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE WETLANDS. IN 19 -- OR IN 2018 I SOLD AN ADJACENT 5 ACRES OF PROPERTY, AND AT THAT TIME I HAD TO HAVE A SURVEY DONE ON THE PROPERTY.

AND WHEN I DID, THE FLOOD ZONE HAD MOVED 70 FEET UP ON MY PROPERTY, SO IT DECREASED THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY AND IT ALSO PUT THE PERSON WHO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN A BIND BECAUSE THE COUNTY TOLD HIM AND TOLD ME, IF YOU WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING ON THAT PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO ELEVATE IT 10 FEET. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ADDING MORE DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THIS WETLAND AND THE WATER THAT'S BEING RUN INTO THAT AREA.

SO I'M AGAINST THIS MOVING THIS PROPERTY AND DEVELOPING, KEEP DEVELOPING IT UNTIL WE HAVE NO MORE ROOM TO BUILD ANYTHING OR MY PROPERTY GOES INTO FLOOD ZONE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT SPEAKER IS MS. DANIELLE

REGIS>> MY NAME IS DANIELLE REGI LEAVE IT 2121 CROWN DRIVE IN THE KING & BEAR.

I HAD NO INTOONGS OF SPEAKING BUT SINCE YOU CALLED ME I WILL. I SHARE THE SAME OPINION AS THE INITIAL GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE EARLIER. HIS CONCERNS WERE WITH THE TRAFFIC AND ALSO DISTURBING THE NATURAL HABITAT OF OUR BEAUTIFUL PRESERVE AND ANIMALS.

AND AS A RESULT I OPPOSE THIS PLAN. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER IS ROSE HOGAN LI, LOGANLY.

>> ROSE LOGAN. I CONCUR WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND N THE KING & BEAR AND WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY OUR ATTORNEY, MR. RON. IN ADDITION TO THEIR COMMENTS, I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE A BACK GATE THAT ADJOINS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WITH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FLOW ON OUR FRONT GATE, BASED ON THE PROPOSED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, THAT WILL DRIVE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO OUR BACK GATE WHICH ABUTS AND ADJOINS A ROAD VERY CLOSE TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEREBY CREATING ADDITIONAL CONCERNS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVE MORTON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DAVE MORAN. I'M A RESIDENT OF 170LATURA LINK CIRCUMSTANTIAL IN THE KING & BEAR NEIGHBORHOOD. MY PRIMARY REASON FOR BEING HERE TODAY WAS I WAS UNDER THE MISIMPRESSION THAT THERE WAS AN ALDI'S AND A STORAGE FACILITY GOING IN THERE, BUT BASED ON THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS, I GUESS THAT'S OFF THE TABLE NOW.

BUT IN SUPPORT OF MR. AUSTIN AND OTHERS, I GUESS I CAN SUMMARIZE MY CONCERNS AS FOLLOWS: ONE IS CHARACTER AND AESTHETICS. AND THE TERM WAS USED, SOME HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS LEFT.

I LOOK AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY. HOUSEKEEPING IS TAKING NUMERICALS OR NUMBERS FROM UNUSED CREDITS AND WITH SOME CREATIVE MATH COMING UP WITH A CONCENTRATION OF SQUARE FOOTAGE IN A PARTICULAR AREA. AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK ON THAT MAP, ONE OF THE AREAS THERE WAS A RED ARROW THAT WAS POINTING TO IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE MY CONDOMINIUM AT 170 LA TERRA LAKES CIRCLE AS AN AREA WHERE SOME OF THIS TRANSFER WERE TAKE PLACE.

BUT IF YOU CONSIDER THE SIZE OF KING & BEAR AND THE SIZE OF SIX MILE CREEK, AND TO TAKE UNUSED PORTIONS FOR WHATEVER REASON AND CONCENTRATE THEM IN A PARTICULAR AREA, AND THIS AREA OF CONCENTRATION IS RIGHT AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT WAS JUST INSTALLED, TO BRING SOME ORDER

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THE SECOND POINT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS ONE OF COMMUNICATIONS. LA TERRA SLAIRCHTION PRIVATE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE KING & BEAR SO WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF PAYING TWO QUARTERLY FEES.

I CALLED ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS YESTERDAY AND ASKED HIM IF HE WAS AWARE OF THIS MEETING TODAY, AND HE REALLY COULDN'T EXPLAIN NEE WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. SO CERTAINLY IN THE FUTURE I WOULD HOPE THAT A SEPARATE COMMUNITY WITHIN KING & BEAR IS ALSO MADE AWARE OF THESE TYPE OF

INITIATIVES. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I'M GOING TO PRONOUNCE THIS WRONG. TONY COSTMICIS.

I'M SURE I GOT THAT WRONG. OKAY. AND THE OTHER ONE, AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO GET THIS WRONG AS WELL, IS BETH POSFALIA. BETH PSOFALIA? THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER'S ON THE PHONE? SIR. SIR. SIR, PLEASE SIT DOWN.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THE PHONE? >> GO AHEAD, SIR. I WAS ON THE ROAD AND WASN'T SURE I WAS GOING TO MAKE IN IT

PERSON. I WANTED TO ADDRESS -- >> HOLD ON A MINUTE, SIR.

WE'VE GOT SOMEONE ON THE RADIO. >> TEDDY REGE WIBS 2145 CROWN DRIVE.

>> WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW SO WOULD YOU JUST HAVE A SEAT.

>> SURE. I MISUNDERSTOOD. I APOLOGIZE.

>> SIR, WHO IS ON THE PHONE? OKAY. COME ON UP THEN, SIR.

I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

>> I WAS ON THE ROAD. I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GOING TO MAKE IN IT PERSON BUT NOW THAT

I'M HERE I HUNG UP. AM I GOOD TO GO? >> CAN YOU TURN YOUR PHONE

OFFSOME. >> IT'S OFF. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.

YEAH, I'M NOTE SURE WHAT THAT IS. I APOLOGIZE.

I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO DATE. THERE ARE A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND OUR TRAFFIC SITUATION IS ALREADY BECOMING A CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SCHOOL ZONE IS IN EFFECT. THAT'S AN EXISTING ISSUE. AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S HELPED IN HOUSTON, TEXAS WHERE THESE KIND OF THINGS WERE TABLED AND TABLED AND TABLED.

HURRICANE HARVEY CAME. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. WE LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE FLOODING ISSUES BECOME A PROBLEM.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADE CAN ATTEST TO THAT. SO WE WILL FEEL LIKE WE CAN COLLABORATE TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL DSCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT CAN GO IN.

WE COULD ALWAYS USE THINGS LIKE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES WHERE THE GROUND CAN ABSORB THE RAINFALL AND SO FORTH. BUT, YEAH, SO I WOULD SAY NO TO 1 AND 2.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON

THE TELEPHONE? >> HERE YOU GO. AND HERE YOU GO.

>> YES. MY NAME IS DEBORAH KING. I RESIDE A 3744 BARON STAIN DRIVE. I ORIGINALLY PURCHASED IN WORLD GOLF VILLAGE IN DECEMBER OF '98 UP IN THE SLAMMER AND SQUIRE, AND THEN BOUGHT A LOT IN 2002 IN THE KING & BEAR AND MOVED IN IN 2005 AFTER I RETIRED FROM THE NAVY. I ALSO, AFTER I RETIRED FROM THE NAVY, WORKED NO DAVIDSON DEVELOPMENT PART-TIME AND WAS PRIVY TO SOME OF THE EARLY PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA INSPECTORS, AND SPECIFICALLY AT THE KING & BEAR HOME OF THE FAMOUS LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS KNACK NIKOLAUS AND ARNOLD PALMER.

I'M NOT A FAN OF INCREASING THER GATE -- COMMERCIAL FOOTAGE AT OUR GATE.

WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL GOLF TOURNAMENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ON OR NOT.

>> YES, MA'AM. WE CAN HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. >> OKAY.

AM I STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING? BECAUSE I WAS TALKING BECAUSE I

WAS TOLD TO TALK. >> NO, YOU DID FINE SO FAR. WE'VE HARDER BIT OF IT.

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>> OKAY. -- HEARD EVERY BIT OF IT. >> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING THAT FLETCHER DAVIS SAYS BECAUSE THEY ENDED UP SELLING WITH NO INPUT TO THE RESIDENTS AS REQUIRED BY OUR COVENANTS, OUR ICONIC TOWER AT THE MAIN GATE AND IRISH FENCING, NONE OF WHICH IS MAINTAINED. SUPPOSEDLY THAT WAS TO FACILITATE THE SAFETY KINDERCARE PROPERTY. FLETCHER DAVIS THAT IS NOT WORKED IN THE BEST RESIDENTS OF THE KING & BEAR. SO DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN ANYTHING THAT THEY SAY, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP WITH THEM SELLING PROPERTIES AND DEVELOPING A STORAGE FACILITY OR AN ALDI'S OR A HIGH DENSITY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT THE DATE. THEIR TRACK RECORD IS NOT GOOD FOR THE DEFINITE OF THE BENEFITE RESIDENTS. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

>> THANK YOU, MS. KING. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THE PHONE?

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE PHONE IN. >> YES, SIR. >> GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS JANET SHERMAN. I LIVE AT 14 TBFL BARRINGTON, ST. AUGUSTINE 32092.

I AM CALLING IN TO JOIN THE OTHER RESIDENTS AS AN OPPOSED. PERSON TO A MOVING ANY CHANGES TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TT OUR ENTRANCE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A KINDER CARE, A DENTIST'S OFFICE, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WIDENING STATE ROAD 16, BUT CURRENTLY THIS IS NOT ABOUT 16. THIS IS ABOUT THE TWO LANES INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE TRAFFIC THAT IS BACKED UP THERE IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING OR IN THE CHARACTER OF KING & BEAR. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENTS IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND IT WILL BE VERY SAD IF THERE IS ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING -- [INDECIPHERABLE]

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON

THE PHONE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JAN MORTON AND BE I LEAVE IT 4651 CUSTOM BOOED COURT, AND I JUST WANTED TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THE TRANSFER OF THE COMMERCIAL, ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL SPACE AT OUR FRONT GATE.

I FOUND IT FASCINATE GO WITH THE BAN ON-LAKES PRESENTATION THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO HAVE THE DENSITY AT THE INTERCHANGE. NOW IT SEEMS THIS PROPOSAL WERE MOVE THAT DENSITY TO OUR FRONT GATE. AND WE ALREADY HAVE MAJOR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. WEV A HIGH SCHOOL GOING GOIND LITERARY THERE ARE TIMES OF DAY WE CAN'T MOVE.

SO I URGE, URGE YOU ALL TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY OTHER SPEAKER'S ON THE PHONE? MY NAME IS ERIN AND I LIVE AT 360 OAK RIDGE TRAIL WHICH IS IN THE KING & BEAR.

WHEN WE PURCHASED HERE IN THE AREA, IT WAS VERY RURAL, NOT DEVELOP AT ALL.

NOW 15, ALMOST 16 YEARS LATER IT HAS EXPLODED. OUR CONCERN IS ACTUALLY THREE THINGS ARE OUR CONCERN. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE FLOOD ZONE? THE PROPERTY BACKS MILL CREEK. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM WITH FLOODING, BUT WITH DEVELOPMENT COMES FLOODING, AS ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAD SPOKEN ABOUT.

ALSO TRAFFIC. IT'S UNREAL, AND, YOU KNOW, THE NEW ENTRANCE UP BY BUCKY'S ONTO IGP, YOU CAN'T TURN IT'S SO POORLY CONSTRUCTED, SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT DOWN HERE IS GOING TO BE LIKE BECAUSE IT'S INSANE WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THE NATURAL HABITAT THAT'S SLOWLY AND SLOWLY GOING AWAY. I MEAN, THESE ANIMALS HAVE NO PLACE TO GO.

SO WHEN YOU MAKE DEVELOPMENTS AND YOU APPROVED COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. WHERE DO THE ANIMALS GO? WHEN YOU WANT TO MODIFY THINGS,

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I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND ALL THE CONSIDERATION. I THINK YOU'VE HEARD EXCEPTIONALLY WELL FROM MOST THAT WE ARE AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> HELLO? MY NAME IS KIM STANLEY AND I LIVE AT 4644 WOOD COURT, ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA 32092, AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY DISPLEASURE AT THE IDEA OF THE TRANSFER OF THE 200,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE TRAFFIC HA HAS COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY HAS INCREASED GREATLY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCHOOL BUSES COMING IN AND OUT SHOULD THERE BE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. ALSO, ON SOME OF THE INITIAL PLANS THAT WE'VE SEEN, IT TALKED ABOUT HAVING AN EGRESS BEYOND OUR GATE.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS.

HUNDRED DOLLARS CROWN DRIVE THERE'S A BEE THERE'S A HUGE FLOOD ZONE AND I THINK IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT QUADRANT THAT IT'S GOING TO ABSOLUTELY CAUSE FURTHER HAVOC TO WETLANDS. AND I WOULD ASK THAT THERE BE AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY TAKEN ONCE THE HIGH SCHOOL OPENS BECAUSE WE ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE NOT ONLY TAQOIT HIGH SCHOOL AS THE THAT CORNER. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE YET BECAUSE THE SCHOOL HAS NOT OPENED. WE'VE GOT MILL CREEK, WHICH WENT FROM BEING A K5 TO A K8 LESS THAN THREE YEARS AGO. WE'RE STILL IN A PANDEMIC WHERE WE DON'T HAVE FULL STUDENT ENROLLMENT, AND IT'S CONCERNING TO ME THAT WE ARE NO REALLY DOING AT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THOSE TWO SCHOOL BUILDINGS ARE CREATING FOR THAT AREA.

IN ADDITION, WE'VE GOT A CAR WASH AND A GREEN WISE MARKET GOING IN ACROSS FROM THERE AND ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF DOWN THE ROAD AT OUR BACK ENTRANCE WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO -- CREEK ELEMENTARY. SO THE TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THE TRAFFIC WITH THE BUSES AND THEN FURTHER DOWN AT 16 WE'VE GOT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WHICH BACKS UP CONSIDERABLY IN THE MORNING, I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE WE CAN CREATE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL USE.

PLUS ISN'T THERE SOME SORT OF A RESTRICTION ON HOW CLOSE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS CAN BE TO A DAYCARE CENTER? THAT KINDERCARE CENTER IS FOR INFANTS THROUGH CHILDREN IN SCHOOL, SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME DANGER TO THE KINDERCARE FACILITY SHOULD THERE BE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. I SHARE THE FORMER SPEAKERS' CONCERNS, THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNS

THE SECURITY -- I MEAN, WHO OWNS A STORAGE PLACE. >> MA'AM, I'M GOING TO NEED YOU

TO HAVE TO WRAP YOUR TESTIMONY UP, PLEASE. >>

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOUARE THERE ANY OTHERN THE PHONE?

>> >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS VALERIE CAMERON.

I'M A RESIDENT AT 1304 BARRINGTON CIRCLE. I, LIKE MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS, REQUEST THIS APPLICATION BE DENIED. OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US AT THE THAT HAVE PURCHASED IN THE KING & BEAR. WE HOPE THAT DR. HILSENBECK'S

COMMENTS REGARDING THE CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY BE RESPECTED. THANK YOU>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CALLERS ON THE PHONE? OKAY.

AT THIS POINT I AM GOING TO ALLOW -- HANG ON. ONE MORE?

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THANK YOU. >> HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON.

NESS NICHOLAUS I'M 2621 OAK GROVE AVENUE. THANK YOU ALL FIRST OF ALL FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THE DEVELOPER BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION ON THEIR PRESENTATION WAS THAT THEY WERE OFFERING THE COMMERCIAL USE OF A CONVENIENCE CLOSER TO HOMES AND ITS KING & BEAR.

LET ME STATE THIS VERY CLEARLY. I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A SINGLE RESIDENT IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE KING & BEAR WHO WISHES TO HAVE THE CONVENIENCE OF A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THEIR FRONT GATE.

WE CAN QUITE SAFELY CROSS THE STREET TO GO TO PUBLIX. WE CAN GO ANYWHERE ELSE WE NEED& TO. BUT TO PLACE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE VERY FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY IS UNACCEPTABLE AND CERTAINLY OF NO CONVENIENCE TO US.

THERE IS PLENTY OF SPACE IN SILVER LEAF. FOR AN ALDI'S STORAGE UNIT AND ANY OTHER FACILITY THAT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED. BUT THE RESIDENTS OF KING & BEAR DO NOT WANT ANY MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THEIR FRONT GATE. I WISH TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND OUR OPINIONS, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VOTING NO ON THIS INCREASE ON COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU>> A IEWMG THAT IS T CALLER I AM GOING TO ALLOW THE POA'S ATTORNEY THREE MINUTES TO COME UP AND ADDRESS US, AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK TO THE APPLICANT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

>> MR. CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS. I DID PREPARE A LEGAL ANALYSIS ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION WITH KING & BEAR, AND I JUST WANTED TO --

>> COULD THE SPEAKER SPEAK IN THE MIC, PLEASE. >> I PREPARED A LEGAL ANALYSIS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION OF KING & BEAR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS TRANSFER OF THIS 200,000 COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE INTO THE FRONT GATE, AS WELL AS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME DEVELOPMENT OF A MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE FACILITY.

I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THAT IN WRITTEN FORM SO IT CAN BECOME A PART OF THE RECORD.

THAT'S ALL. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIR, MAY I ASK IF THERE'S A COPY FOR THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT. HE WAS A LOT BETTER THAN THE CURRENT GUY ANY ANYWAY. MS. WHITTINGTON, WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO RESPOND?

>> YES. JUST WHEN IT HIT A FEW OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE COMMERCIAL PARCELS AT THE FRONT, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT THE FRONT SINCE DAY ONE SINCE BEFORE SHOVEL WAS EVER DUG SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ENVISIONED THAT THEY WOULD BE AT THE FRONT. AND ABOUT THE GUARD GATE, IT IS IN FRONT OF THE GUARD GATE, ALTHOUGH I WILL NOTE THAT THE KING & BEAR GOLF COURSE IS BEHIND THAT GUARD GATE.

THESE NO WILL NOT BE GOING BEHIND THE GUARD GATE. AGAIN, THE COMMENT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AGAIN SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE STORAGE UNIT AND THE ALDI'S.

THESE ARE NOT BEFORE YOU TODAY. THEY ARE THE SUBJECTED AND WILL BE IF IT CONTINUES FORWARD.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WILL HAPPEN, BUT IF IT DOES IT WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF A MINOR MODIFICATION THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU TO DETERMINE THINGS LIKE COMPATIBILITY, CLOSENESS TO

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ON 7.73 ACRES. THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE NUMBER.

THEN LASTLY, I HAVE TO GO BACK. HERE. THIS IS THE OVERALL PUD.

I'LL TRY NOT TO HIT THAT OUR OH THIS TIME. OKAY.

HERE IS PARCELS 1 AND 2. THIS IS THE PRESERVATION AREA THAT'S BEING COMMENTED THAT WILDLIFE ARE GOING TO DIE OR WE'RE GOING TO IMPACT IT. THAT IS 1 -- IN THIS PUD THERE ARE 1,362 ACRES OF WETLAND THAT ARE PERMANENTLY PRESERVED AND 256 ACRES OF UPLANDS THAT ARE PERMANENTLY PRESERVED. NOTHING IS GOING TO IMPACT THIS WETLAND SYSTEM THAT IS NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL PARCELS. THIS LEGAL ANALYSIS I HAVEN'T BEEN PRIVY TO IT SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S IN IT SO I CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT. WITH THAT I'LL LET YOU TALK

ABOUT COMMENTS AROUND TRANSPORTATION. >> THANK YOU.

I WAS LISTENING TO THE SPEAKERS AND JOATD DOWN A COUPLE OF NOTES RELATED TO ENGINEERING ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON.

AND I'LL START WITH TRAFFIC. SO A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS I DID WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE MASTER DEVELOPER IS IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE COUNTY, AND WHEN I SAY THAT I MEAN THAT THE MASTER DEVELOPER HAS COMPLETED ALL OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITMENTS REQUIRED TO DATE UNDER THE DRI APPROVAL, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS STATED.

THE DEVELOPER'S MOST REASONABLE MONITORING REPORT, RECENT MONITORING REPORT WHICH WAS REQUIRED AND SUBMITTED IN JANUARY OF 2020 WHICH WAS USING COUNTS THAT WERE CONDUCTED PRE-COVID, SO THEY WERE NOT IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC, THOSE -- THAT MONITORING PORT WHICH WAS SUBMITTED AS DRI ANNUAL REPORT 2020-01 AND REVIEWED BY COUNTY STAFF, DEMONSTRATED THAT IN THE TWO-YEAR PROJECTION, WHICH WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, THAT PASSETI ROAD AND INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY BASICALLY IN THIS AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM SIX MILE CREEK UP TO THE INTERSTATE THROUGH THE END OF 2021 WOULD OPERATE AT LEVEL OF SERVICE D OR BETTER. SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THE RECORD. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS GOING TO ASK, I'VE GOT AN EXHIBIT I CAN SHOW. I DON'T HAVE TO SHOW, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THE OVERHEAD WORKS.

I NOTICED THE CAMERA IS NOT UP THERE. IS THERE AN OVERHEADSOME.

>> I CAN HEAR PETER'S HEAD NODDING UP AND DOWN ALL THE WAY OVER HERE.

>> SO A I WANTED TO ADD. THE TWO-YEAR HORIZON IN THE ANNUAL REPORT SHOWS THAT PASSE TICKERS WORK A SELF SERVICE D OR BETTER. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE AGENCY IS AWARE OF THERE'S A CLEARER RECOGNITION, I WOULD USE THE WORD TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH IN THIS AREA, AND THIS IS THE AREA WHINTSDZ THE COUNTY THAT, BASED ON THE COMP PLAN, THE COUNTY IS DIRECTING GROWTH, AND THE COUNTY RECOGNIZES THAT, THE MASTER DEVELOPER RECOGNIZES THAT. AND STOW I PRINTED AND BROUGHT, AND WHAT THIS IS SHOWING SO YOU

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WE ALSO SHOW, THE COUNTY SHOWS THE EXTENSION OF 2209 PLANNED, AND THE LEGEND SHOWS THAT RED ARE IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT SIGNIFICANT INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN REASONABLE COMPLETED AND MANY OF THEM OPENED HERE WITHIN THE LAST WEEK WITH THE BULKY'S. THE EXHIBITS ALSO SHOWS THE TRANSITION WHICH ARE THE SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BY THE MASTER DEVELOPER.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT THERE'S A RECOGNITION THAT EVEN BEYOND THE NEXT TWO YEARS, LOOKING AT THE NEXT FIVE AND TEN YEARS, THERE'S A RECOGNITION THAT IS AN AREA FOR GROWTH, AND THERE IS PLANNING THAT IS IN PLACE AND DESIGN THAT IS BEING DONE, IN FACT, THE COUNTY IS DESIGNING IMPROVEMENTS TO STATE ROAD 16 AT THE IGP/PASSE TICKERS ROAD INTERSECTION NOW, SO THAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE -- APPROVED AND CONSTRUCTED CONCURRENT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMING FORWARD. SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

THEN THE LAST ADVERTISEMENT THAT I WAS GOING TO LEAVE ON, THE LAST POINT ON TRAFFIC IS IF THIS WERE A 200,000 SQUARE FOOT CENTER THAT IS A BRAND NEW CENTER HA WAS COMPLETED UNRELATED TO WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AND COMING TO THIS AREA, BASED ON TODAY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM CON EXPIRNTION WE NOT BE URCHG TALKING ABOUT CONCURRENCY. BECAUSE THIS IS A DRI, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THERE ARE TREMENDOUS ADDITIONAL TRIGGERS IN PLACE AND PROTECTIONS FOR THE COUNTY IN THE EVALUATION OF TRAFFIC. SO HAVING THIS ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THE DRI IS ACTUALLY ADVANTAGEOUS AS OPPOSED TO A WHOLE BRAND NEW 200,000 SQUARE FOOT DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY COME TO THIS AREA OR COULD COME TO THIS AREA AND WOULD BE EXEMPTS FROM KWON CURRENCY. THAT'S CLASS ITEM ON TRAFFIC I HAVE.

I DID CAN'T TO ADDRESS A COUPLE THING NEARING-RELATED. I DID WANT TO SHARE THAT SIX MILE CREEK AND THESE TWO PARCELS, PAR SELLING 1 AND 2, ARE PART OF A MASTER STORM WATER IMPROVEMENT THAT IS APPROVED THROUGH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAT ESSENTIALLY CONSIDERS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE TWO PARCELS AS COMMERCIAL, SO THE STORM WATER FOR THESE TWO PARCELS HAS BEEN CONTEMPLATED IN THE OVERALL STORM WATER SYSTEM FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THESE TWO PARCELS, AS I UNDERSTAND IN IT SPEAKING WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPER, DID NOT HAVE WETLANDS

ON THEM. >> BILL, I DO UNDER UNDERSTAND PARCEL 2 BF HAVE WILL HAVE A

STORM WATER POND. >> I UNDERSTAND AS PART OF THE PERMITTING THAT, YES, PARCEL 2 IS LIKELY TO HAVE ITS OWN STORM WATER POND ON IT. SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT, AND

THAT WAS EVERYTHING I HAD. THANK YOU. >> IF YOU ALLOW ME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHETHER DOIG DAVIS FROM FLETCHER WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE DIRECTED TO HIM. LET ME SEE. YES, APPARENTLY HE DOES.

THANK YOU>> THANK YOU. I'LL BE BRIEF. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT NEW. WE HAVE BEEN -- FLETCHER DAVIS HAS BEEN AROUND IN ONE FORM OR FASHION NOW SINCE THE '60S. MOST OF THE LARGE DRIS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN NORTH FLORIDA HAVE BEEN DONE BY OUR COMPANY. I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH MORE DRIS THAN I CAN COUNTS. THE DRI TOOL IS ARGUABLY THE MOST EXTENSIVE TOOL AVAILABLE FOR PLANNING TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY. THIS DRI, ST. JOHNS DRI IS NO DIFFERENT.

IT WENT THROUGH RIGOROUS, RIGOROUS TRAFFIC, ENVIRONMENTAL, STORM WATER AND ALL OTHER CONCERNS. I GET THAT PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THE TRAFFIC OUT THERE.

LOOK, I'M A RESIDENT HERE. I'VE LIVED HERE IN THIS AREA SINCE THE LATE '70S.

MY HOUSE IS NOT VERY FAR DOWN THE ROAD FROM HERE. MY KIDS GO TO THESE SCHOOLS.

I UNDERSTAND THIS AREA. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS NOT FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE NOT ASKING TO INCREASE MORE RESIDENTIAL TO PUT MORE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD.

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SO WE'RE ASKING FOR DENSITY SO THEY CAN GO TO MARKET AND SELL COMMERCIAL THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENTITLEMENT THERE TODAY TO ENABLE US TO DO SO. AND THEN I WOULD JUST LEAVE YOU WITH WHENEVER THESE LARGE PROJECTS ARE DONE, AND I KNOW YA'LL KNOW THIS, BUT IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING WHENEVER YOU'RE PLANNING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TEN, 20, 30 YEARS IN ADVANCE TO GET IT RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO DENSITIES, ALLOCATION OF RIGHTS, LOCATIONS OF DEVELOPMENTS.

AND FOR THE MOST PARTS THE WORLD GALLON OF -- THE ST. JOHNS DRI HAS NOT HAD TO HAVE MAJOR STUFF DONE. AND TODAY WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU TO ASK FOR MAJOR MODIFICATIONS. AGAIN, THEY ARE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, AND SO I WOULD LEAVE YOU WITH THAT. AND THEN JUST ONE FINAL THING. MOST OF THE FOLKS HERE DON'T KNOW THIS ABOUT US, AND SOME OF YA'LL MAY OR MAY NOT, BUT WE ARE, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AIG DEVELOPER, A CONSERVATION-BASED DEVELOPER, AND SO IT'S LIKE A DAG INNER MY HEART WHEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WRECK ALL OF THIS AREA. THESE THOUSANDS OF ACRES HAVE BEEN PRESERVED ALREADY IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE NOT GOING IN NOW AND CHANGING THAT. THOSE AREAS HAVE BEEN PRESERVED, CONSERVED AND ARE AVAILABLE FOR BOTH STORM WATER AND FOR WILDLIFE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR BECAUSE THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION AROUND THAT WE WOULD BE GOING INTO THOSE AREAS BE CLEARING, FILLING AND MESSING THOSE UP.

WE'RE NOT. WE'RE ONLY WORKING WITHIN THE ORIGINAL COMMERCIAL AREAS.

YA'LL HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME A MOMENT TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DOUG. OKAY.

SO WE'RE BACK INTO THE AGENCY. FLR ANY ARE THERE ANY ADDITIL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT ANNOINT FROM ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE AGENCY? YES, DR. HILSENBECK.

>> I HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE. THIS IS TO BILL ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN THROUGH 2021 AND THE TRAFFIC'S FLOWING AND ALL THAT FROM UP TO I-95 AND INTERNATIONAL GOLF PARKWAY. IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS -- I'M NOT SURE YOU DO OR SWROFTD BUCK INVOLVED WITH THE BUCKY'S BUT I'VE HEARD ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S HORRENDOUS TRAFFIC PROBLEMS UP THERE. IT MAY BE THE NEWNESS OF THE BUCKY'S AND PEOPLE ARE JUST FLOCKING THERE TO GO TO IT. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT? >> SO I'LL SHARE A COUPLE THINGS JUST OF OBSERVATION, AND, ONE, TO QUALIFY IN IS KIMLEY-HORN AND I HAVE NOT WORKED ON THE BUC-EE'S SO I'M NOT INTIMATE INVOLVED IN THOSE NUMBERS. BUT I HAVE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE TIME OUT IN THE AREA AND WORKING ON THIS PROJECT I'M OUT HERE FREQUENTLY. I WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE OBSERVED, AND ACTUALLY HAS MADE ME LATE TO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, IS THAT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BUC-EE'S, THE CONTRACTOR BUILDING THE BUC-EE'S IMPROVEMENTS HAS HAD LANE CLOSURES, TYPICALLY NOT DURING PEAK HOUR TIMES BUT CERTAINLY DURING MIDDAY 8:00 TO 4:00.

WHILE THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE INTERCHANGE RAMPS, THEY HAVE BEEN CLOSING LANES TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR WORK DONE, AND SO I HAVE OBSERVED TEMPORARY CONGESTION AND BACKUPS AS THAT BUC-EE'S CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN GOING ON. AND I'M EXPECTING THAT TO

RESOLVE ITSELF NOW AS THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. AND THIS IS FOR STAFF.

IT WAS MENTIONED BY SOMEONE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING A THREE-STORY STORAGE WAREHOUSE OR STORAGE FACILITY ON EITHER PARCEL 1 OR 2.

IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT TRUE? >> WE DO, YES, SIR.

WE HAVE PAW MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THAT WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THAT PROJECT IS STILL IN REVIEW. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL GO AT THIS POINT. BUT AS YOU HEARD MS. WHITTINGTON SAY, IT DOES REQUIRE THE MINOR MODIFICATION. AND SHE AND I WERE ACTUALLY ON THE PHONE LAST NIGHT DISCUSSING IT IS AND I WENT WALK AND LOOKED THROUGH AT SOME OLD DOCUMENTS, AND THE ST. JOHNS DRI AND THE SIX MILE CREEK PUD AND THE INTERCHANGE PUD ARE WRITTEN UNDER OLD CODES, SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND ACTUALLY RESEARCH THOSE OLD CODES TO SEE IF THOSE MINI WAREHOUSE-TIME TYPE FACILITIES WERE ACTUALLY ALLOWED IN THOSE OLD CODES AND THEY WERE NOT SO THAT IS WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE

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>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF NO ONE ELSE DOES.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM FOR THE RECORD THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A TOTAL OF 311,000 AND CHANGE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON PARCELS 1 AND 2 WHICH INCLUDES THE EXISTING USES.

IS THAT CORRECT, KATHRYN? I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THESE NUMBERS.

>> NO, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A TOTAL OF 351,000. THERE IS 151,000 RIGHT NOW ALREADY APPROVED. THE OTHER 200,000 WILL BE COMING OVER.

YOU SUBTRACT FROM THAT WHAT'S ALREADY BUILT, AND WHAT THAT WILL LEAVE DUBS RIGHT NOW IF IT DOESN'T COME OVER, WE'RE ONLY LEFT WITH 31,000. SO THE EXTRA -- WE WOULD END UP

WITH 231,000. >> BUT IS THE EXISTING USES THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE, AREN'T SOME OF THOSE NOT ON PAR SELLING 1 AND 2? -- PARCELS 1 AND 2? Y MY MY MY QUESTION IS HOW MUS GOING TO BE LEFT FOR PARCELS 1 AND 2.

>> 31 PLUS 200, AND LET ME MAKE SURE THAT'S CORRECT. I'M HEARING A NOD>> SO IT'S ONLE 200 -- IT'S GOING TO HAVE LESS THAN 240,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT 12,000 PER ACRE IS WHAT'S GOING

TO BE ON 1 AND 2 MAX. IS THAT CORRECT? >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT 12,000

CALCULATES TO THAT. >> IT'S PRETTY CLOSE>> VANESSA R DAVIS.

SHE'S SAYING IT'S STILL SHARED BETWEEN PARCELS 1 AND 2. SO 61,000 HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO PARCEL 2 BUT NOT BUILT, AND IN FACT I THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, SO I GOING TO BE SHARED BETWEEN PARCELS 1 AND PARCEL 2. THE ONLY THING THAT'S BUILT SO FAR IS THE KINDERCARE AND THE DENTIST, WHICH IS -- HOW MANY ACRES DID I SAY THAT IS? IT'S 1.94 AND 2.75 HAVE BEEN BUILT OUT OF APPROXIMATELY 20. SO THE REMAINING ACREAGE OF

ABOUT 17 WILL SHARE THAT. >> HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE WILL IT SHARE?

>> SO THEY WILL SHARE 231,000 SQUARE FEET BETWEEN PARCELS 1 AND 2?

>> SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS ERROR WE'RE GOING FROM 31 TO 231. >> CORRECT.

>> DO THE ACCESS POINTS REMAIN THE SAME? >> YES, BUT FOR THE PROPOSED

FUTURE DRIVEWAY. >> THE ONE ADDED THE RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT TO THE NORTH.

>> YES. >> SORRY. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

AND SO MY FINAL QUESTION IS MORE FOR THE TEAM THAN IT IS NECESSARILY FOR YA'LL.

DO WE SEE THE MDPS ULTIMATELY OR ARE THEY STAFF APPROVED? ASSUMING THEY'RE IN ACCORDANCE

WITH THE ALLOWED USES. >> THOSE ARE STAFF APPROVED, ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.

>> THANK YOU. >> BUT NOT THE STORAGE MINI WAREHOUSE.

>> NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU.

OKAY. WE'RE BACK GLO THE AGENCY NOW. AND WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 7 OR WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> ST. JOHNS INTERCHANGE PARCELS PUD BASED UPON SIX FINDINGS OF FACTS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF

REPORT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A SECOND.

DR. HILSENBECK IS ON THE QUEUE, SO I WILL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION NOW.

DR. HILSENBECK.

PARKWAY. >> YES. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DENY

ITEM NUMBER 8, THOUGH, IF WE APPROVE NUMBER 7. >> RIGHT.

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YES. >> OKAY. I DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS OF MS. WHITTINGTONTON. NUMBER ONE, THARS THERE'S BEEN ALL THIS TALK ABOUT PEOPLE CIRCUMVENTING THE BACK GATE OR CIRCUMVENTING THE GUARDHOUSE AND BEING GET MOO THE KING & BEAR WITHOUT PROPER ACCESS. IS THAT INDEED CORRECT OR NOT? YOU HAD INDICATED NO EARLIER.

>> THIS COMMERCIAL PARCELS ARE IN FRONT OF GATE. >> YOU HAD SAID THAT.

OKAY. SO THERE'S NO CIRCUMVENTING IN ANY OF THIS THE GUARDHOUSE.

OKAY. I SEE MR. DAVIS SHAKING HIS HEAD VIGOROUSLY.

OKAY. >> I COULD MAKE A DISCUSSION SUGGESTION THAT YOU REVERSE THE ORDER OF THE VOTE IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, AND YOU COULD TAKE SIX MILE CREEK VOTE

FIRST AND THEN VOTE ON THE INTERCHANGE OF TRAFFIC. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S RECORD THE VOTE. THAT PASSES 3-2.

LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 8. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF MAJOR MOD 2020-13 SIX MILE CREEK PUD BASED ON SIX MINDINGS OF FACT AND PROVIDED IN THE

STAFF REPORT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? >> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM NR DAVIS. I THOUGHT THOSE WERE VERY HEARTFELT AND I CAN SEE HE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT HIS DEVELOPMENTS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ASPECTS AND SO FORTH. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THAT. IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE AT THE FRONT. THE YES, THEY ALWAYS APPARENTLY COMMERCIAL BUT ALLOWING ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET EVEN THOUGH THAT'S BELOW WHAT YOU COULD DO TODAY, I JUST -- WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME AND EFFORT TO WRITE LETTERS, COME OUT TO THE MEETING, AND I SEE NUMEROUS PEOPLE AGAINST THIS SPEAKING AGAINST IT, THEY CLEARLY DON'T WANT IT, I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE HERE AND THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE AND TO TRY TO REPRESENT EVERYBODY, SO I DIDN'T HEAR, EXCEPT FOR THE PRESENTERS, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS.

I JUST HEARD PEOPLE SPEAKING AGAINST IT, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, SO I DO THINK THERE'S POTENTIALLY TRAFFIC CONCERNS, SCHOOL SAFETY ISSUES AND OTHERS, AND I HAVE TROUBLE WITH PARTICULARLY PARCELS 1 AND 2, SO I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIOUS VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> YES. >> AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION AND MR. DAVIS' COMMENTS WERE I BELIEVE RIGHT FROM THE HEART. I'VE LIVED IN THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AREA SINCE 272011. 272011. PERSONALLY I BELIEVE WE NEED MORE COMMERCIAL NEAR ST. JOHNS COUNTY. I THINK WE NEED MORE JOBS.

ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT MY TIME HERE IS MEME FLIF ST. JOHNS COUNTY BUT WORK UP IN JACKSONVILLE SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMMERCIAL.

BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THIS AS A REALLY GOOD FIT. LIVE IN THE AREA.

I'VE LIVED IN LIKE I SAID WORLD GOLF VILLAGE SINCE 2011. I HAVE ACCESS TO KING & BEAR AND USE THE RECREATION PRETTY FREQUENTLY AND I JUST DO NOT SEE THIS AS A REALLY GOOD FIT.

THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS. >> ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THE QUEUE. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE?

[9. Recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners for Planning and Zoning Agency Member Appointments.]

SIR. SIR. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 9. SO WE ARE LACK TO ATTEMPTING TO NOMINATE AND RECOMMEND SOMEBODY FOR APPROVAL TO FILL ARCHIE WAINRIGHT'S POSITION, AND I BELIEVE JUST AS SOON AS SOMEBODY NOMINATES THEM AND THEY RECEIVE A SECOND AND WE VOTE AND ASSUMING WE APPROVE THAT PERSON,

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>> I HAD STATED THIS AT THE LAST NEEGHT, THAT I REALLY FELT THAT WE NEEDED AN ARCHITECT ON THE BOARD AND IN INDEED MIKE KOPPENHAFER IS GOING OFF THE BOARD, I THINK AN ARCHITECT SERVES US VERY WELL ON THIS BOARD, SO I AGAIN WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE JOE MCA NARNY TO SERVE OUT THE REMAINING TERM OF ARCHIE WAINRIGHT, AND I CAN ONLY NOMINATE ONE AT A TIME?

IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY.

>> THERE'S ANOTHER REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE AS WELL I THOUGHT, BUT THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A NOMINATION OF MR. MCANARNEY.

CENTER A IS THERE A SECOND? THAT NOMINATION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

NOW WE MOVE MOVE ON TO MR. A. >> YES, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE JOHN JACK PETER.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> SECOND THAT. >> SO WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR

[Agency Reports]

THAT WAS A LOT EASIER THIS TIME. OKAY. SO THAT GETS US DOWN TO STAFF

REPORTS. ANYTHING? >> NOTHING TO REPORT, SIR.

>> THANK GOODNESS. ANY AGENCY REPORTS? >> JUST ME.

TODAY IS MY LAST MEETING. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. I END JOAD IT.

THANK YOU, STAFF, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ALL THE RECORD WORK, EVEN THE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT HERE, THE ATTORNEY AND PETER AND CHERYL OVER THERE, YOU GUYS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.